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Welcome back friends to another episode of the Juice Box Podcast.
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Hi, my name is Lindsay and I've been a type one diabetic for about 12 years now. I'm 25.
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This is part two of a two part episode. Go look at the title. If you don't recognize it, you haven't heard part one yet. It's probably the episode right before this in your podcast. Blair. This episode of the Juice Box Podcast is brought to you by my favorite diabetes organization, touched by type 1. Please take a moment to learn more about them@touchedbytype1.org on Facebook and Instagram touchedbytype1.org check out their many programs, their annual conference awareness campaign, their D box program, Dancing for Diabetes, they have a dance program for local kids, a golf night, and so much more. Touched by type1.org you're looking to help or you want to see people helping people with Type 1? You want touchbytype1.org while you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juice Box Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. Always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or becoming bold with insulin. I'm having an on body vibe alert. This episode of the Juice Box Podcast is sponsored by Eversense365. The only one year wear CGM. That's one insertion and one CGM a year. One CGM, one year, not every 10 or 14 days. Eversensecgm.com Juicebox Today's episode is also sponsored by Tandem Mobi, the impressively small insulin pump. Tandem Mobi features Tandem's newest algorithm, Control IQ technology. It's designed for greater discretion, more freedom, and improved time and range. Learn more and get started today@tandomdiabetes.com Juicebox Lindsay's like, Listen, it's on my list.
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Okay, it's on my list. But.
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But it's an interesting insight from you that you knew that your diabetes was making other people uncomfortable and not even
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like in a bad way, but like, for instance, like. Another example would be my parents asking me, how's your sugar? How's your sugar? Like constantly I would just say good. Even if it wasn't because I just didn't want to talk about it or I didn't want to get. I didn't want them to be upset if it was too high or if I was letting it run too high or letting it go too low or if I had too many lows or too many highs. Like, I just.
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You didn't want to let anybody down.
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Yeah, I kind of felt like bad numbers were a reflection of me.
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And that's not language that you've been taught since then. That is how you felt when you were younger.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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You know what I mean by that, right? Like, sometimes, like, social media can tell you. The one that sticks to me is people with type 1 diabetes do 130 extra things. You know, how many memes did we put that on before everybody just agreed that that was true? Yeah. By the way, I'm not saying they don't make a lot of extra decisions. I'm like, where did the number come from?
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Right.
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You know, so, like, yeah, you think more about stuff, and it sucks, and it's pretty constant. I watched yesterday was the first day of school for Arden, and I was downstairs doing my things in the kitchen, and she came down on her way to school, and I could see her stopping and looking around the room. And I didn't say, can I help you? Or is there something I can help you with? I just watched her, and I realized, like, she was like, she was looking at different things around the room. She's like, do I have juice boxes with me? Do I have low snacks with me? Am I going to need my. An insulin pump change, or am I going to be back soon? Like, I could see her doing all that math before she left the house. And then she grabbed food. I watched her grab a banana she clearly didn't want. She just grabbed it because I think she was like, I should have this with me. So I'm not saying you don't do 130 more decisions a day. I'm just saying it's interesting that some one time somebody said they counted them up, and then suddenly everybody agreed on the same.
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Right.
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And I've seen that happen with other stuff, too. So I asked, is that actually your experience or is it something that somebody's told you you're experiencing?
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Right.
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Yeah. Okay, well, this is interesting. So the people around you are worried for you. The more attention you draw to it, the more worried you are, the more they speak to you. The more you realize you don't want to talk about this, the more you're getting attention for things you don't want attention for.
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Yes.
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This is going to be a strange thing, but taking how you feel out of it for a second, those people are still now in a orbit with you. Right. Like, so how can they more thoughtfully take their concern for you and make it actionable without it impacting you that way? Or is there just no way for them to accomplish that?
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You know, I've had this discussion so many times with my parents and, like, my doctor, because we had. We've talked about it before. This problem that I hate, the nagging or constantly, like, oh, how's your sugar? What's this? What up? Whatever. So when I got my Dexcom and they were able to read my blood sugars, it was phenomenal because they didn't have to ask me anymore. They just looked at my graph, and I love that. But also kind of hated it because then they had the access to view it all the time. And if, say, my sugars were high, they were constantly nagging me, like, you need to bring your sugar down, or, what'd you eat? Or, why is it high? Or, oh, hey, your sugar's going low. Like, I already don't know.
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Yeah. This is interesting. So that you fix one problem, but it just reveals a different issue for you.
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Yeah. I think, like, my issue is I don't like being told what to do. And I think it all comes down to, like, being in control of my life and, like, proving that I can do this on my own and I can take care of myself. And although, like, my parents and friends, they love me and they just care for me and that's what they're doing. It's all out of love and care.
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Yeah.
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But to me, it would just, for some reason, annoy me. I don't know why, but it would trigger me anytime someone would ask me about my blood sugar or, how are you doing with your diabetes? I don't know why. And even still to this day, I
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still kind of like, that was my next question. You still feel like that now?
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Kind of like, there'll be a couple times. And I don't know if it's because I think, oh, are they asking because they think I'm not doing okay? Like, I don't know. I don't know where it comes from, but I still do.
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Listen, you and my daughter could start a band, because no matter what happens, I think that's her initial feeling of, like, why are you insinuating that I can't do this on my own?
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Yes.
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She'll say something to me sometimes like, I can handle this. And I'm like, I stop. And I think to myself, like, no one insinuated that you can't handle this. And more importantly, I don't think you can't handle it. Like, so that feeling right there is just very universal for people.
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Yes.
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Like, you know, because I'm certainly. I'm well aware of my daughter's Ability to take care of herself. And I think she's an incredibly intelligent, thoughtful person who doesn't need my help at all. And so if in the course of a day, you know, I'll tell you a great example is like, we were. I think we were all upstairs. I was upstairs, she was upstairs. But I think I was cleaning my room and she was cleaning her room. And I could hear, I heard a beeping. I was like, oh, she's gonna get low. And I just knew that because we had eaten a few hours before. And then she went into a lot of activity and, like, was doing laundry and running around, and that classically kind of makes her low. And I needed something from downstairs. So I hear the beeping. I walk over to her and I say, hey, I gotta run downstairs for a second. Do you want me to grab you anything while I'm down there? She doesn't even, like, look at me. She's like, dad, I can take care of myself. And I was like, okay. So I stopped her and I said, I know you can. I was not saying you couldn't. I heard the beeping and I'm on my way downstairs and I thought you might need something from downstairs. Let me ask. I said, this isn't me taking care of you. This is just a well timed kindness, you know? And I said, so please, please know I believe you can take care of yourself. I don't doubt that at all. That's not why I asked. And then I did not get the thing for which, by the way, she needed. And then five minutes later, she was downstairs looking for that. Me being right about that's not the point. Right? Like, the point is, is that I don't want her to feel that way. But trust me, I was not coming at her from like, hey, let me get you a snack because you screwed this up and you're low now, and. What? You know, like, it wasn't like that, but I bet you that's how it felt, huh?
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Yeah, I. I think it all comes down. I don't know if it's the same for your daughter, but for me, I struggle with asking for help, even if I need help. So me being the independent person I am, it's like I don't ever want to ask for help, even if I need it. So whenever someone is like, trying to help, it's almost like I'm like, oh, you don't think I can do it? Or.
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Here's my question. Do you know that's ridiculous?
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Yes, I do.
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Okay, and how old are you?
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I'm 25.
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How long do you expect to live? Hopefully, you know, 60 more years, 70 more years, right? Why can't we stop? Look at me putting this on you. You're 25. I'm like, here, answer the world's problems for me. But why can't you just understand that and stop? Just stop. Why can't I stop? The things I can't stop? Why can't you stop?
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Like, it's a mental game. It's a mental thing, and I don't know why. I have always been this way. It's not even just diabetes. It could be as little as, like, I will struggle so hard opening something or doing something before I actually ask for help or before someone comes and helps me. Or, like, for instance, I recently broke my arm. Okay.
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Okay.
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And having a broken arm, I struggled to put my dexcoms on fair. So in this instance, I had to ask help from my mom to put my Dexcom on. And I hated it because, one, she hasn't put a Dexcom on my body, and I don't know how many years. So, one, I'm gonna have to teach her, and I know she's gonna get stressed out about it. Two, I'm asking for help, and then deep down inside, I'm like, well, is there a way I can try to figure out how to do it, like, by myself? And I try to. It's like I'm making it harder for myself when I could literally just tell my mom how to do it and she can help me and just do it in the future.
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But my grandmother would say, why are you making a mountain out of a molehill?
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Exactly.
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Yes. Yes.
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Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. So for instance, just the other day, she came over because my arm is still broken. However, my arm is almost fully healed. I have about, like, a week or two left of my cast. And I had my cast off after the shower because I'm to the stage where I can take my cast off in the shower. So I had it off for a little bit, knew I was going to put my Dexcom on. And she was over, and she was like, okay, I'm going to help you do your Dexcom. For some reason, because she was busy doing something, I was like, you know what? I'm just going to figure out how to do it. So I do it. Did it on my other arm, and I figured out how to do it without my cast.
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What else are you a pain in the ass about, Lindsay?
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You know what? Maybe you need to get my parents on Here, they could tell you.
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But that's just interesting example of, like, you did not need to make a barrier for yourself there. Right?
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Yeah.
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And not only did you do it, it sounds like you were aware that you were doing it while you were doing it.
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I was. And I was like, you know what? But, like, I like to prove to myself, too, that I can do things. So, like me, like, putting my Dexcom on, I was like, oh. And I walked out. And she's like, what? How'd you put that on your arm? And I was like, I did it myself. And she was like, I would have helped you.
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Like, you're eight. But don't, you know you're a capable person?
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Yes.
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Why do you have to keep proving it to yourself?
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I don't know that. That's what I'm trying to figure out, too, is, you know, see, this is the therapy I need to get into, like, figuring out all my deeper wounds and, like, why I think the way I do.
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Don't you find people interesting?
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They are so interesting.
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If I didn't find everyone so interesting, I don't even think I can make the podcast anymore. Right. I know that some people will find this to be a minutia, but I am fascinated by this aspect of you. Right. Like, you figured a thing out already. Move on.
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Yeah.
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But you're not going to.
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I know. Well, it's not that I'm not trying, because there are.
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I didn't say you weren't trying. I'm saying you're not going to.
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Not necessarily. I'm going to try. I'm going to try to be better,
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but I don't think you even need to be better. I think. You know what this falls under for me, the category of often the best thing to do is nothing. Like, you're over managing something that doesn't need attention.
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Yeah.
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Your mom's there. You're taking a shower. She's here to help. Awesome. Right?
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Yeah.
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Okay. But then what happens? I can do it myself. I don't need help. I don't need anybody. I'm okay. All those feelings.
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Yeah.
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The world thinks I can't, but I can.
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Yep.
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I'm smart. I'm not stupid, like everybody says. Is that a line from a movie? I forget what that is. A very old movie. Like. Like. So there's, you know. Do you ever listen to me talk to Erica?
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I don't know. I'll be honest.
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It's mental health stuff, right? Oh, yeah. She's a therapist, and, like, she'll explain something and she Gets done. And often, I want to say, so there's no getting out of this. We're all just. Just stuck in this. The way our brains work and everything.
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Maybe I need to talk to her.
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I. If I was you, I would just stop. I would write on a sticky note, stop. And then hold it in my hand.
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Got it. Just stick it to my forehead and look in the mirror.
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Every day, every time you go to do something and you're like, I shouldn't be doing this, you go, oh, yeah, I should stop. Yeah, if it was that easy, you know. So anyway, 35 minutes later. So you experience burnout.
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Yes, I experienced burnout, and I still do. And I think it's like, it's because of this, because I don't ask for help, and I try to just do everything myself, which, I mean, like I said, not that I'm not capable and not that I can't do it by myself, but there's certain things in certain moments in diabetes that, you know, it's okay to get help or, you know, it's okay to be burnout from the everyday things that you do.
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Yeah, of course. But are you explaining that to me or talking yourself into believing it?
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Oh, shoot.
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I mean, kind of both, while you're keeping that in your head. Because you have maybe a half a dozen times said that people need help sometimes, but you preface it each time by telling me that it's not that I can't do it myself. Who told you you can't do things?
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I don't know. That's.
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I don't know what happened that makes you so confused and able to accept the fact that you're a capable person.
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Yeah, I. I really don't know. I'll be honest. I have no idea where I got,
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like, this mindset in this conversation. Do you know that you've prefaced that so many times?
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Yeah, now. Now after you've said that to me
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every time, you stop yourself and you go, it's not that I can't. It's not that I don't know how, but it's okay to accept help. I'm like, who are you talking into? This ex. I don't know.
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I don't know. Now that you say that, now I realize it, but I didn't even know I was doing that.
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You're fine. You're lovely. I've seen you. I've seen a picture of you. You're a lovely person. Accept all that and move forward.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I could save you 10 years of pain.
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You're Right?
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Yeah. Because you don't know what's going to happen.
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What?
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Eventually you're going to meet a boy you can somewhat tolerate, okay? And then you're going to let him have a baby with you. Okay?
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I don't know about that.
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Trust me, Lindsay, it's coming.
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I don't know.
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And then, and then you get this kid and then you're going to realize that you're wasting all this time on this and you need to focus on that kid. And then you're just going to let it all go and you're just going to move forward. I'm telling you, move forward now and enjoy this time and don't have to make a baby with a boy you can only tolerate to get to it. Just do it now. Live like Valerie, Valerie Harper in that television program in the 70s. Just be by yourself and wonderful with you and your girlfriend. It's going to be awesome. What are your goals? 25 is an interesting age. Are you out of school? Did you go to school? Are you working? What are you trying to accomplish? Let's talk about the Tandem Moby insulin pump from today's sponsor, Tandem Diabetes Care. Their newest algorithm, Control IQ Technology and the new Tandem Moby pump offer you unique opportunities to have better control. It's the only system with Autobolus that helps with missed meals and preventing hyperglycemia, the only system with a dedicated sleep setting, and the only system with off or on body wear options. TandemMobi gives you more discretion, freedom and options for how to manage your diabetes. This is their best algorithm ever and they'd like you to check it out@tandomdiabetes.com juicebox when you get to my link, you're going to see integrations with Dexcom sensors and a ton of other information that's going to help you find learn about Tandem's tiny pump that's big on control. Tandomdiabetes.com juicebox the tandem mobi system is available for people ages 2 and up who want an automated delivery system to help them sleep better, wake up in range and address high blood sugars with Autobolus. When you think of a CGM and all the good that it brings in your life is the first thing you think about. I love that I have to change it all the time. I love the warm up period every time I have to change it. I love that when I bump into a door frame, sometimes it gets ripped off. I love that the adhesive kind of gets mushy sometimes when I sweat and falls off. No These are not the things that you love about a cgm. Today's episode of the Juice Box podcast is sponsored by the Eversense365, the only CGM that you only have to put on once a year and the only CGM that won't give you any of those problems. The Eversense 365 is the only one year CGM designed to minimize device frustration. It has exceptional accuracy for one year with almost no false alarms from compression lows while you're sleeping. You can manage your diabetes instead of your CGM with the Eversense365. Learn more and get started today at eversensecgm.com JuiceBox One year, one CGM.
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I'm out of school. I did go to college after my associate's degree to like a university. I was at community college, went to a university for a little bit. Then when covet happened, I decided to drop out. During that, I became a bartender server. Now I currently bartend at a sushi and martini lounge that I absolutely love. And basically my goals in life, I just want to live life to the fullest. Travel everywhere. Like that is one of my biggest goals, is I want to travel everywhere.
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Okay.
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I want to go see everything, do everything. I'm always just interested in trying new things. Goals, you know, this is one of my goals is starting my own podcast because I think it would be so much fun.
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Oh, you think so? I'll explain that to you in a minute. Go ahead.
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But yeah, like, travel, podcast, just, you know, being happy in life. I'd love to move up in my bartending career and maybe become a mixologist of some sort. I'm looking to make a move to Chicago very soon, so hopefully I can learn more once I move to the big city.
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So look at you. You wanna get off the farm?
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Yeah, basically. I mean, I'm not. Where I live is just very small town and I've been here way too long. I'm just. I just need to experience a change.
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Is it more northern Michigan?
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Uh, yeah. I'm like in the middle. So like Mount Pleasant.
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I've heard people from there complain about. Yeah, yeah. I've also heard people complain about the southern part of Delaware, the center part of Pennsylvania, the western part. People complain about wherever they're from. And, you know, and everybody thinks that, like, you know, a city center is going to be a big change for you. Maybe it will be. That's lovely. When you went to college, did you go because you wanted to go or because somebody told you you should kind of both.
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I thought I knew what I wanted to do, and then I. I realized I did not know what I wanted to do. Once I was taking classes, I was going for psychology, and then I wanted to become a psychiatrist. So I thought later on realized, no, I don't want to do this. However, before I went, I did think I wanted to go, but I was going because it's just the thing to do. It's the thing that everyone's doing after high school. It's the right thing. It's the thing that's gonna make people proud of you.
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Oh, so you thought people expected you to do it and you wanted them to be happy again?
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Yeah.
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Are you a people pleaser in general?
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I am. It's something I'm working on.
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How do you work on that?
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Just really thinking before I agree to things or say yes to things, I try to really like. The hardest thing that I deal with as a people pleaser is making time for myself instead of spreading my time thin with all the people I love. That's what I suck at.
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No. Is it possible having diabetes turned you into a people pleaser, or do you think that's always how you are?
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I think I've always been this way.
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Okay, you want to hear something interesting?
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Yeah.
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If 100 students started college today, 62 would finish on time. That's within six years. 62%. 3% will finish late in the six to eight year realm. 35% never finish college. That's a pretty big number. 35%.
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Yeah.
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I wonder if 100% of those 35% would later say to themselves, I never really want, like, if they'd start describing it the way you are, like, oh, I went because I thought I should, or I was trying to make somebody happy, or like, that kind of a thing.
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Yeah.
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Because you don't have any world domination goals. It doesn't sound like you want a whole big pile of money you're not looking for. You'd like to see the world. Enjoy your life.
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Yeah.
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And you love being a bartender?
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I do.
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Yeah. And the good news?
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Enjoy it.
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You know the good news about that? What? The bartender never gets killed. Hey, have you ever seen Desperado?
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I have. Yes.
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Yeah. Right. And what is Cheech Maringo? He goes, the bartender never gets killed. And then they. They eventually kill him. So I. I guess it's not a hard and fast rule, but why do you love it so much?
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I love it because I get to come into work and talk to people and hear other people's stories. I get to know people. It's a social job. I could never do a job where I'm sitting at a desk or just looking at a screen all day. I need to be up and active and talking to people. And not only that, like, that's just, like, the service part, but, like, making drinks and just getting to be creative. That's always fun. I love anytime a job allows you to be creative. So that's what I really enjoy. The two things that I enjoy most about.
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Bartender. Wonderful. I'm glad you found something you like so much. Why did you so effortlessly say, I'm not letting a boy near my baby maker? What is it? You don't like the kids?
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I just. I don't have any goals of having kids, if I'm being completely honest, because they suck.
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Why?
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Because they just. I don't know. I. I guess this is another thing. Like, you know, I can barely take care of myself. I don't know how I would take care of another human being.
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What if you get married and that boy really wants a baby and your people pleaser, like, snaps in and you're like, oh, I mean, he. I mean, he does. Like, he lives here, too, and he does really want a baby. Like, what happens if that happens? Will you be able to be like,
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no, I have thought about it. Well, only because, like, it is a thing. Like, it's a deal breaker these days. Like, people want to start families.
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Yeah.
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I'm 25. You know, there's men my age who are like, all right, I'm ready to settle down and start a family. And then there's others that maybe they don't want a family, or they're still figuring it out. But I have always thought, like, oh, I don't want kids. But then I start to think, okay, what if the right person came? And what if I wanted a mini me and a mini him? Like, that'd be so cute, and I would love that. But then when I think of all of the things that come with parenthood, I start to be like, oh, I don't know. I still. I don't think I want it that bad.
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It's wonderful and horrible at the same time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Who knows? Just be careful, because sometimes those hormones, they start hitting you the wrong way, and before you know it, you're doing stuff you didn't even expect to do.
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Right.
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Have you heard those stories about the women who marry guys while they're on birth control but then go off birth control to learn they didn't like the guy?
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B
Yeah.
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A
A little bit, yeah. Look into it.
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B
Okay.
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A
Your hormones get a little wonky and tell you what you want. The pill tells your body you're pregnant. And then you start looking for, like, big burly can kill a moose guy. Yeah, right. And then when you're off the thing and you're not pregnant, you realize I don't really like big burly can kill a moose guy. Jumping in his cold plunge guy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's not what I was really looking for. Apparently that happens.
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B
Yeah. You know, I have heard of it, but I should look into it more.
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A
I would be careful.
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B
So funny. Yeah. Yeah. I actually just recently decided to be off birth control, so, like, that I should look it up.
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A
Pay attention to what's happening to you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm only living in this house because my wife got confused and thought she wanted a baby. Thank God I'd be out of the street. You know what I mean? She would have looked at me like, and been like, why am I dating this idiot? And like. Yeah. But now she got fooled. So, yeah, it's her mistake now. And now I have a house. Yes. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me, can't get fooled again. Too late, though, now. Okay. All right. So be careful with all that. I like your plan. Are you going to be by yourself? Are you dating someone?
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B
I currently am not dating, but I've been single for going on five years now, so I've been single for quite some time.
- [27:04]
A
On purpose?
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B
Yeah. Actually, yes.
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A
I don't understand your whole generation. Explain it to me.
- [27:11]
B
For me, currently, it's not that I'm opposed to getting into a relationship. I will definitely get into the relationship with the right person, But I'm not going to settle for less than I want. And I'm not going to force a connection if it's not there. Sure, I've definitely talked and dated around these past five years, but just, you know, relationships, things happen.
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A
And what about the fun parts?
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B
What about fun parts?
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A
What about 1:30am in a grocery store holding a pint of Ben and Jerry's? You've just had sex three times. You're in a pair of sweatpants, and you're just like, couldn't go to sleep, so you and him are in the grocery store looking for ice cream.
- [27:49]
B
No. You know, that's great. And you have those connections with people, and then sometimes they just end up saying, oh, yeah, that was casual and I don't want you like that.
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A
Is the cell phone ruining personal relationships? Is the feeling, Lindsay, that I don't have to Persevere through real relationship ideas with this person, because I can just go find another person. Go back to the fun part at the beginning. Do you think that exists because it's simple?
- [28:14]
B
For some people, yes. For some people, no.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because I do know a lot of people who kind of go through that phase of, like, they're with a person realize, well, I know I can be with somebody else and just do this all over again and just keep repeating it. And, like, it's a cycle, and they go through relationships.
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A
Like, it's like digital divorce, I think.
- [28:34]
B
Yeah.
- [28:34]
A
Yeah. By the way, not that some people shouldn't get divorced. I'm not saying that. But I do sometimes think some people are like, oh, I want to do the fun part again.
- [28:41]
B
Right. Yeah. No, I definitely think that is true, and I think that's valid.
- [28:47]
A
However, you would like a nice relationship, but you just.
- [28:50]
B
I would love a relationship, especially after being single. Like, don't get me wrong, I'm. Like, I said, I'm independent. So, like, I love my independence as
- [28:59]
A
a new girl in town. Go ahead, Lindsay. Tell them.
- [29:04]
B
I love my independence, but there's times where I'm like, dang, it would really be nice if I could just have someone here with me hanging out all the time. Or, you know, I wish I had my person to talk to every single day. Like, I hate the dating apps. I hate the constant meeting someone online or talking to someone online for a little bit, and then they're just disappearing. And then you forget who they even are or how you even have their number in your phone.
- [29:33]
A
Who is this?
- [29:34]
B
Yeah, that's happened a lot.
- [29:37]
A
Boy, I let touch my arm three months ago. It's in the phone book, right? Yeah.
- [29:42]
B
Now I just.
- [29:42]
A
I can't imagine. The whole thing seems terrible.
- [29:45]
B
It does. I don't know. I really do feel like this generation, it's hard because everyone is like, well, is there better out there? Can I have better? Like, settling comes to a certain, like, fine line, are you settling for, like, less than what you deserve and you know that there's more out there? Or are you not settling because you just think your perfect person is going to come that matches all of.
- [30:10]
A
And then that never happens, and then one day it's just you and the cats and cancer.
- [30:14]
B
Exactly.
- [30:14]
A
I hear what you're saying.
- [30:16]
B
Yeah. And it's tough because you want to believe, oh, like, my person's out there. And, yeah, they don't need to be perfect. They don't have to have everything on the list.
- [30:25]
A
Can I tell you something? I believe my wife is my soulmate. I also believe there's probably a thousand other ladies out there I could feel that way about.
- [30:34]
B
True. Yeah.
- [30:35]
A
This is no disrespect to my wife. I'm sure she would say the same thing about me. I'm saying, like, there are other people I've met through my life that I could see my life having gone well with that person too. But something comes up or, you know, it doesn't work out quite right. I just don't think there's just one person. And I do think that in a world where I could pick my phone up right now and order the silliest thing and it show up at my house, like, without resistance, it'll just be there. I do think that people are willing to believe that there's better coming and you don't want to settle because better is coming.
- [31:08]
B
Yeah.
- [31:09]
A
And I do really think that could make time go by quickly, because I don't think I'm not perfect, and I don't think my wife would tell you that I am. And I'm sure she was with boys or new men before me that she could probably look back now and go, I probably should have given that one a shot instead. And I could tell you the same thing, but that doesn't make my life invalid or what we did a waste of time. It's wonderful. It's beautiful. You know what I mean? I just think if you guys are waiting for the exact right thing, I think you're out of your mind. I don't think that exists.
- [31:38]
B
Right. No, I totally agree with that. And I don't. And I don't think there's anybody who's perfect or who's gonna match up to my perfect list of traits that I want in someone.
- [31:49]
A
However, you don't want to be involved with a bunch of boys who are just gonna jump on you three times and then be like, all right, I'm gonna go do it with somebody else now.
- [31:56]
B
Exactly. And I feel like that's a lot of what's going on now. And at my age. However, another thing. I'll be honest. That's another reason why I am so excited to move to a different city. I feel like I know everybody in my small town.
- [32:10]
A
Oh.
- [32:10]
B
Either I know somebody that's dated them already or slept with them, or I've already talked to them and it's already not worked out or whatever. Like, the town is so small that, like, I'm just ready to see and meet new people.
- [32:22]
A
Yeah. So you want to find A bigger pond. Efficient.
- [32:26]
B
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
- [32:28]
A
And is the job kind of anticlimactic for people? Because a lot of people in a bar situation are looking to hook up. They're not looking to.
- [32:35]
B
Yeah, that's where it does get tough, being a bartender. You meet so many people. But the type of bartending I do, I usually stick to the more, like, classy restaurants, not like the dive bars, but more like fine dining. So most people are going on dates at my bar. They're not really looking.
- [32:54]
A
They're not leaning across the bar going, hey, yeah. Tell me your name. I got you a lot of problems, not a lot of answers. You live by yourself?
- [33:05]
B
I actually live with my sister.
- [33:08]
A
Oh. Oh, that's nice. How many other brothers and door sisters do you have?
- [33:11]
B
So I have two sisters. One 23, one that just turned 16, and then I have a younger brother who's about to be 19.
- [33:20]
A
Wow. Anybody else have autoimmune issues? Type 1 diabetes, celiac, thyroid?
- [33:25]
B
No, not at all.
- [33:27]
A
Nothing.
- [33:28]
B
Nothing. I will say my father has some thyroid issues, but nothing like.
- [33:36]
A
What's that mean? Is he moody?
- [33:39]
B
No, no. It sounds bad, but I just know he takes a pill for his hypothyroidism.
- [33:45]
A
Okay, so he has Hashimoto's.
- [33:49]
B
I don't know. I. I mean, I assume.
- [33:52]
A
How often do you guys speak? Do you know each other by first name?
- [33:56]
B
Yeah, we talk a lot. Like, we see each other a lot. But it's bad that, like, I guess I've never really asked him about that. I will say they told me I have Hashimoto's, but yet I don't take any medication.
- [34:10]
A
Lindsay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. First of all, it's not bad that you and your dad don't talk. What a great opportunity for you to get to know each other better. And secondly, you have Hashimoto's, but why don't they have the medication? Do you not have any symptoms?
- [34:22]
B
It's.
- [34:23]
A
Do you want to go over the symptoms? Are you tired even though you've slept?
- [34:27]
B
I mean, yeah, I think I do have symptoms, but it's weird because I had markers for it on, like, lab results, like, years ago, and then all of a sudden, I didn't.
- [34:38]
A
Your hair falling out?
- [34:40]
B
I. It's occasional. It's not all the time.
- [34:43]
A
Dry skin?
- [34:45]
B
Yes.
- [34:45]
A
Do you have trouble losing weight?
- [34:47]
B
Yes.
- [34:49]
A
Do you need me to keep talking, or do you want to go get your thyroid checked up?
- [34:52]
B
I guess that's what I should do.
- [34:54]
A
Next up, what was your TSH the last time it was checked.
- [34:59]
B
You know, if I looked, I could probably look and tell you right now.
- [35:04]
A
Do I need to do this with everybody on the planet? Listen to me. I'm going to say it out loud. If your TSH is over 2.1, 2.2, and you have symptoms, those symptoms are listed anywhere. Ask the Internet. You probably require a thyroid replacement hormone. It's a tiny little pill you would take in the morning when you wake up. It is not difficult. It will change your life and make things better.
- [35:28]
B
Yeah.
- [35:29]
A
Yes. Are you moody? Do you ever have brain fog?
- [35:33]
B
Brain fog? Definitely. Okay.
- [35:35]
A
Okay. I gotta stop doing this with you people. I can't be in charge of everybody. Okay, Lindsay, you gotta get out there and help yourselves once in a while. Go to your person, whatever the doctor is. I don't know what you use. Endocrinology. And tell them you have these symptoms. List your symptoms. Don't let me tell you what your symptoms are. Okay? You list your symptoms and then ask to have some blood work done. And if your TSH is over, like, 2.1, 2.2, tell them, but still in range, say, I appreciate that my labs are in range, but I am having a lot of hypothyroid symptoms. My father has hypothyroidism. You've told me. I have Hashimoto's. I already have an autoimmune issue called type 1 diabetes. Let's try that Synthroid. Run that up the flag pole one time, see who salutes. Get in there.
- [36:25]
B
I'm so glad we're talking about this, because I just pulled it up on my chart and. And it says the last time it was 4.1.
- [36:34]
A
What is going on? What kind of a witch doctor do you see?
- [36:39]
B
I.
- [36:40]
A
Did no one know what the hell's going on? I can't be everywhere, Lindsay.
- [36:45]
B
I can't. I can.
- [36:47]
A
I'm trying, but I can't. Okay, immediately call your doctor, refer to the lab, tell them the things. Tell them you want the Synthroid. Tell them to base the first dose on your weight, whatever they do there in their little doctor's office with their calculator, and most of your symptoms are going to go away.
- [37:04]
B
Okay.
- [37:05]
A
Weeks to months.
- [37:07]
B
All right.
- [37:08]
A
I love this for you.
- [37:09]
B
Yeah, I love this for me, too, because. Wow. Yeah.
- [37:13]
A
Because who needs all that?
- [37:14]
B
Yeah.
- [37:14]
A
Hypothyroid symptoms explained. May I? Extreme fatigue, weight gain, cold sensitivity, constipation. Do you have any of those?
- [37:22]
B
Yes.
- [37:23]
A
Excellent. Dry skin or hair, puffy face, hair loss, hoarseness. Oh, do you have a hoarse voice? I don't know, Lindsay. You do. Okay. Muscle weakness. Do you feel weak, particularly in your upper arms or thighs?
- [37:39]
B
Not. Not necessarily.
- [37:40]
A
You don't have to have them all. Brain fog, depression, low mood apathy, lack of interest in activities.
- [37:45]
B
Yeah, some of those. Yeah.
- [37:46]
A
Menstrual change is heavier than normal. Irregular periods.
- [37:50]
B
Yes.
- [37:50]
A
Slow heart rate, joint and muscle pain. Okay, that's okay. Again, you don't have to have them all. That's it. I'm telling you. My God, please.
- [38:01]
B
Thank you so much.
- [38:03]
A
All right, episode 413 of the podcast, if you want to be talked into it by a physician and not by a guy who has a podcast. Okay, all right, last thing. I. I'm gonna try to be supportive here. Okay. What did you mean, you want to have a podcast?
- [38:23]
B
I love talking. I just love talking to people. And I do have a lot of just life stories, and I know a lot of people in my life who have a lot of funny, cool, awesome stories that I just would love to share and just post it somewhere. Not even, like, for other people, but just, like, even for my own friend group. Like, just us to get it out. Talk or just have it recorded somewhere. Like, I've always thought that'd be so awesome.
- [38:52]
A
I like this idea for you. You see, you're not telling me you want to quit your job and have a podcast.
- [38:56]
B
Oh, no, definitely not quit my job, but I definitely think I should take more out of my day or time block to actually start a podcast, because I've been saying it for years. Oh, I think it'd be so fun. I'd love to do it. And now that I'm actually talking with you, I'm like, oh, my gosh. I could actually see myself doing this.
- [39:13]
A
Obviously, you're doing great. You're fantastic. And so. Yeah. So what do you need? You need a microphone, you need a computer, you need a hard drive. That's pretty much it.
- [39:21]
B
All right, good to know.
- [39:22]
A
You could definitely do it. May I give you my angle for you?
- [39:25]
B
Yes, please.
- [39:26]
A
People you met at the bar, right?
- [39:29]
B
Yes.
- [39:29]
A
Yeah, you sit down and you talk about people you met at the bar. You have a conversation with those people. Yeah, that's a great way to, you know, find a niche.
- [39:37]
B
And that would be so fun, actually.
- [39:39]
A
Of course, of course. Don't get caught up in. You and your friends are so interesting. You're not that interesting.
- [39:44]
B
Right.
- [39:45]
A
Okay. Keep that in mind. I'll give you a couple little pieces of advice. Nice, clean audio is very important. Okay. Nobody's listening to your garbly, like, Somebody's like, sounds like they're across the room yelling into a pod. It doesn't need to be video. Okay. If you find it easier to do it that way, no problem. But then you're going to feel pressured to light it well and it'll look good. And the truth is, ain't nobody looking that much, so don't worry about it. Audio is fine.
- [40:08]
B
Okay, Got it.
- [40:10]
A
All right. You're not as interesting as you think you are. I am not as interesting as I think I am. And other people are definitely not as interesting as they think they are. So when you get bored while you're talking, pivot. Okay? Don't let somebody go on and on and on. If you're getting bored, then the audience is getting bored. Make sense?
- [40:29]
B
Got it? Yeah.
- [40:30]
A
All right. Ask open ended questions, let people talk, have opinions, don't be embarrassed by your opinions and just share how you feel and hopefully people will enjoy it. And if they do, it'll grow. And if they don't, you'll stop doing it. And if it's just for a small group of people, then right on. Like, that would be cool too. It might be interesting for you, like, to pick a small group of people, interview all of them, and then come back again and expand your conversation with them and see if you can learn. There's so many different things you could do. I love this idea for you.
- [41:00]
B
Thank you. I appreciate your advice.
- [41:02]
A
Oh, please. Here's the part you don't want to hear. It's impossible to start a successful podcast. You're not going to make any money. And if you keep those things in mind, I think you'd have a great time with it. Yeah, it's random that it becomes popular. You can't make it popular is what I'm saying.
- [41:19]
B
Right.
- [41:20]
A
All right. And if it does, then it's just a happy accident.
- [41:23]
B
Yeah. And honestly, that's kind of like my whole goal with it is. Honestly, I don't think I would really hope it blows up, like, cool if it did, that'd be awesome. But if it doesn't, I think it just would be good to just talk and just know that I'm sharing my stories with whoever wants to watch or listen.
- [41:43]
A
Then I think you have the perfect attitude for this.
- [41:46]
B
Thank you.
- [41:46]
A
Seriously, I was afraid you were going to tell me. Like, Scott, let me tell you something. I'm going to start this thing up, probably be making 5, 10 million a year in no time. And, you know, I'll probably be pushing out bigger names in the podcast industry. This Call me daddy girl. She'll be gone. All right, I'll run her right over. No, there are people in your generation who think they're going to be influencers, Right? They actually think that's a job.
- [42:08]
B
Yep.
- [42:09]
A
So silly.
- [42:10]
B
Unfortunately, it's not.
- [42:11]
A
You're all going to end up on only fans. Just stop.
- [42:13]
B
Oh, no.
- [42:15]
A
And. And Lindsay, we don't want that for you.
- [42:16]
B
Yeah, no, definitely not.
- [42:18]
A
All right, listen. You're awesome. I want you to remember something, okay? You're a capable person. You don't need to talk yourself into it over and over again, okay? We do things for us, not for other people, right? So you don't have to make anybody happy. Just live your life. You don't get a lab value of a 4, have somebody tell you of hypothyroidism, have a bunch of hypothyroidism symptoms, and then not do anything about it. That's not okay.
- [42:49]
B
Not okay?
- [42:50]
A
What else are you ignoring in your life?
- [42:52]
B
Probably my laundry right now.
- [42:54]
A
If I'm being so real, get right on it. And here. And let me talk to boys your age for a second. This Lindsay chick is cool. Do you hear her? You'll be lucky to get this girl to have a meal with you. Stop running around trying to have sex with everybody all the time. Maybe get to know somebody. You bunch of idiots. There. That's what I got for those boys.
- [43:14]
B
I love that. Yeah, my future. Like when I go on a date, I'm going to play that before we go on dates.
- [43:20]
A
Now listen, dumbass. You be nice, you'll see them. But calm down, okay? That's how you start, Lindsay. You tell them they don't get to see them right away just because we drove somewhere. That's not how it works, okay? You be nice and real, and I'm nice and real, and we have a little connection, and then. Yeah, okay. And then. By the way, the first time I bring something up you don't like, it'd be nice if you didn't ghost me, okay? Like. Because you already said six things I don't like about you, and I'm still sitting here. Tell them that, too.
- [43:48]
B
Yes.
- [43:49]
A
All right, Lindsay. God bless you. I don't know what's going to happen.
- [43:53]
B
Yeah, who knows? You know what? I'm just along for the ride. Crazy awesome.
- [43:58]
A
What a great attitude. I love you. You're awesome.
- [44:02]
B
I love you, too.
- [44:03]
A
Seriously, I'd introduce you to my son, but the two of you would definitely have a baby with diabetes, so I try to avoid that. Ok? All Right.
- [44:12]
B
Well, you know what? If your son's cute, give him my number.
- [44:14]
A
Listen, you guys are about the same age, and the ladies do seem to find him attractive.
- [44:19]
B
Okay, well, you know what? You might have to email me right after this podcast.
- [44:24]
A
He's got a good job, Lindsay.
- [44:25]
B
Shoot. What does he do?
- [44:26]
A
I don't want to say.
- [44:27]
B
Yeah, no, understandable.
- [44:28]
A
He's a data engineer. Like, he's like a reliable person.
- [44:32]
B
Okay, dang. Now you're going to start, like, a speed dating thing on your podcast for your son.
- [44:37]
A
I have to tell you something, though. I don't know, like, there are. I want to be vague because these are his personal life, but the very specific kinds of people are attracted to my son.
- [44:47]
B
Okay.
- [44:47]
A
Yeah.
- [44:48]
B
What are those specific people?
- [44:49]
A
I don't feel like that's my place to share that.
- [44:51]
B
Oh, okay. Okay.
- [44:52]
A
I'll tell you when we shut the microphone off.
- [44:54]
B
Yeah, that sounds good.
- [44:56]
A
Say goodbye to the people. You'll find out right now.
- [44:57]
B
Goodbye.
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A
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