#1878 Drunk Bunny

Summary

Juicebox Podcast: Type 1 Diabetes

Episode #1878: Drunk Bunny
Released: June 16, 2026
Host: Scott Benner
Guest: Lisa, type 1 mother, nurse, and school nurse

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Episode Overview

This episode features a candid conversation between host Scott Benner and Lisa – a mom of twin boys, one recently diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, and a nurse who transitioned from ER to school nursing. Lisa shares her unique perspective as both a diabetes caregiver and educator, discussing the real challenges and adaptations required for families impacted by type 1. The pair cover everything from diagnosis stories and school accommodations to dealing with systemic gaps and finding community support.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lisa’s Background and Diagnosis Story

• Introduction:
  • Lisa is a mom of 7-year-old twins, one diagnosed with type 1 diabetes in November 2024.
  • She is a nurse with over 20 years of experience, recently transitioned to school nursing for her family.
• The Early Signs:
  • Her son's diagnosis began with increased thirst, bedwetting, and weight loss ([04:39–05:48]).

    “He started having some accidents at night… down at the penitentiary down in Philly… This kid was like, I need water. I need water. And I was like, okay, I’ll get you water. So yeah, the next day… something is not right.” — Lisa [04:39]

• Diagnosis Moment:
  • Used an old glucometer at home; his blood sugar was 438.
  • Emotional impact: Lisa excused herself to cry alone, then called the pediatrician and avoided DKA by acting quickly ([05:48–06:39]).

    “You’ll never forget that moment because I just knew exactly what it was.” — Lisa [05:50]

2. Family & Autoimmunity Dynamics

• Discussion of family history: Lisa herself has type 1, Hashimoto’s, and her family has other autoimmune diseases ([06:42–07:13]).
• Both twins tested with TrialNet; one has signs of vitiligo.

3. Emotional and Practical Adjustments

• Adjustment period:
  • Lisa’s healthcare background both helped and intensified her fears ([10:04–12:07]).

    “Insulin is a two person sign off in the hospital because it’s… you could kill somebody with it. So getting out of my own head that it’s okay, I’m not going to kill my kid… that’s honestly what this podcast did for me for sure.” — Lisa [12:07]

  • Family member support, especially for those not used to medical tasks, was a steep learning curve ([10:04–11:27]).
  • Listening to the podcast gave practical strategies and reduced fear.

4. School Accommodations & System Challenges

• School Adjustment:
  • Care at before/after-school programs was a struggle; initially, staff claimed they would call 911 for all alarms ([26:31–27:32]).

    “Anytime if it alarms, we’ll just call 911 now…” — Lisa [26:31]

  • Lisa cited school district policy to assert her son’s rights.
• Career Shift:
  • Lisa left her healthcare leadership track to become a school nurse ([28:23–30:10]).

    “All that’s on pause because I gotta take care of my kid, right? Gotta make sure my kid’s safe.” — Lisa [28:23]

  • Balancing being present for her children with losing overtime pay and professional advancement ([29:45–32:39]).

5. The Realities of School Nursing

• Training Gaps:

  • Lisa is proactive in educating other nurses/staff, noting many school nurses aren’t formally taught to manage pumps/CGMs ([36:24–37:49]).

    “Can you imagine… a parent with a newly diagnosed diabetic… having to go in and teach… a nurse?” — Lisa [37:48]

• Safety Concerns:

  • Disparity between training and real-life skills; hospital nurse standards differ from schools.
  • Discusses broader issue of preparedness for emergencies (ex: “stop the bleed” training) ([46:08–49:32]).

• Scott’s Perspective:

  • Balances concern with reality—medical errors are possible but rare, and most issues in schools are manageable with communication and support ([41:27–45:31]).

6. Resilience, Independence, and Community

• Support groups (Facebook, camp, the podcast) play a crucial role ([34:15–34:47], [53:58–56:02]).
• Lisa’s son is learning independence, even texting her from school about pump issues at age seven ([43:02–44:09]).
• The importance of foundational, repeated diabetes info for families and professionals ([54:26–56:19]).

7. Emotional Toll & Mental Health

• Lisa describes having her first panic attack six months post-diagnosis—triggered by a minor school decision ([58:10–59:35]).

  “I had a full blown panic attack… I was like, do I send him late to school? Do I keep him? It was the stupidest thing… I feel like the world’s closing in on me.” — Lisa [58:10]

• She credits Lexapro and neighborly support in getting through anxiety.

8. Moments of Humor and Humanity

• Vivid Philly stories: boys peeing everywhere, Philly accent jokes, old stores and dating tales ([03:34–22:28]).
• Laughter over the “drunk bunny” metaphor for fertility—the origin of the episode title ([60:43, 64:20]).

  “We drop, we start dropping eggs like crazy… Just like a drunk Easter bunny, your uterus is like, I don’t know how many she needs, dropping.” — Lisa and Scott [60:53–60:59]

• Banter about local cuisine, sports, and ER visits timed for Eagles/Phillies games ([16:43–66:34]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [12:07] “Insulin is a two person sign off in the hospital… Getting out of my own head that it’s okay, I’m not going to kill my kid.” — Lisa
• [26:31] “Anytime if it alarms, we’ll just call 911 now.” — School staff, relayed by Lisa
• [29:40] “Nobody goes into school nursing for the pay.” — Lisa
• [32:39] “I felt like I needed to be more present. And being in those leadership roles, I couldn’t do that.” — Lisa
• [43:59] “He actually texted me at seven years old… Mom, it’s not in automated mode.” — Lisa on her son’s developing independence
• [54:26] “You should be saying this constantly… always new people showing up, always people forgetting. It’s really valuable to repeat this stuff.” — Scott
• [58:10] “I had a full blown panic attack for the first time in my life…” — Lisa describing the emotional toll of diabetes care
• [60:53] “We drop, we start dropping eggs like crazy. So the chances of naturally, like a drunk Easter bunny, your uterus is… dropping.” — Scott
• [64:20] “I’m definitely calling this one Drunk Bunny in, because of your fallopian tubes just throwing those eggs all over the place.” — Scott

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Diagnosis Story & Initial Emotional Impact: [04:39–07:13]
• Family Autoimmunity & Genetics: [06:42–07:13], [60:43–62:41]
• Medical & Practical Adjustments / Nurse Perspective: [10:04–12:07], [15:25–16:37]
• School System & Nurse Retraining: [26:31–28:23], [36:24–37:48]
• Career Pivot & Family/Balancing Act: [28:23–32:39]
• Children’s Growing Independence: [43:02–44:09], [56:40–58:03]
• Mental Health and Coping: [58:10–59:35]
• Community, Facebook, and Support Groups: [34:15–34:47], [53:58–56:19]
• Funny, Local, and Human Moments: [03:34–22:28], [60:43–64:20]
• ER/Sports/Philly Life: [65:00–66:34]

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Lisa’s Hopes for the Future

• Fosters independence and self-advocacy in her son, involving him in activities like camp and triathlons ([56:40–58:03]).
• Encourages ongoing self-education and stressed the importance of community and communication with schools.

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Overall Tone

• Warm, unfiltered, frequently humorous, and rooted in real-life Philly energy.
• Honest about the stresses, systemic flaws, and the relentlessness of daily diabetes management—but optimistic, practical, and supportive toward other parents and families.

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For Further Information

• Support resources: juiceboxpodcast.com/support
• Facebook group: Over 74,000 members engaged in diabetes discussions ([34:15–34:47])

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Summary prepared for those who missed the episode or want a quick reference—without losing the heart, wit, and candor of Scott & Lisa’s conversation.

Transcript

[Scott]

Welcome back friends. You are listening to the Juice Box Podcast.

[Lisa]

Hi, I'm Lisa. So I am a. I have a type one first and foremost. I have seven year old twins, one of which was diagnosed with type one November 24 of 24.

[Scott]

Hey, do you need support? I have some stuff for you. It's all free. Juicebox podcast.com click on support in the menu. Let's see what you get there. A1C and blood glucose calculator. People love that. That's actually, I think the most popular page on the website some months. A list of great endocrinologists from listeners that's from all over the country. There's a link to the private Facebook group, to the Circle community and we have a fantastic thing there, American Sign Language. There's a great sign language interpreter who did the entire Bold beginning series in as. So if you know anybody who would benefit from that, please send them that way. Just go to juiceboxpodcast.com and click on support. While you're there, check out the guides like the pre Bolusing Guide, Fat and Protein Insulin calculator. Oh gosh. Thyroid GLP Caregiver Burnout. You should go to the website. Click around a little bit on those menus. It really. There's a lot more there than you think. Nothing you hear on the Juice Box Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. Always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan. This episode of the Juice Box Podcast is sponsored by usmed usmed.com juicebox or call 888-721-1514. Get your supplies the same way we do from us Med. A huge thanks to my longest sponsor, Omnipod. Check out the Omnipod 5 now with my link. Omnipod.com juicebox you may be eligible for a free starter kit. A free Omnipod 5 starter kit at my link. Go check it out. Omnipod.com Juicebox terms and conditions apply. Full terms and conditions can be found@ omnipod.com juicebox hi, I'm Lisa. Lisa. That was easy, wasn't it?

[Lisa]

Perfect. Perfect.

[Scott]

Yesterday the lady said to me, what do you want me to say when I introduce myself? And I was like, I don't know. I would just introduce yourself.

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Scott]

So some people say, hey, I'm Lisa. Some people go, hey, I'm Lisa. I'm a. This. That, like it's really, you know, it's interesting to see where people start. All right, well, Lisa, why are we having you on the podcast? What? Looks like you might have a kid with type 1 diabetes. Is this correct?

[Lisa]

So I am a, I have a type one first and foremost. I have seven year old twins, one of which was diagnosed with type 1 11-24-24. And I think I'm got a little bit of a unique perspective in that I'm also a nurse. I've been a nurse for over 20 years. And then to kind of tack on to that, I also recently entered the school nurse world to kind of. Because we don't have like a big circle, right, you know, of people that stepped up to, you know, kind of help out with our guy. So I left the hospital full time, stay there as needed in the er. So I work in the ER just to keep life a little more spicy. So I do school nursing. So I see that whole side of Type 1 Kiddo Management on top of the normal stuff at home that we deal with. Right?

[Scott]

Let's figure it out and let's hope that I can stay focused. I missed a spot shaving this morning. Just right under my lip and I'm like touched it. Well, I'm going to fix it as soon as you and I are done. Don't, don't worry. I'm just hoping I can let myself off the hook right now and stop touching it because it's meaningless if I don't put my hand on it. I don't know it's there. Anyway, this is not the point. Twin seven year olds. Boy, girl, girl, girl, boy, boy.

[Lisa]

What do you got, Scott? They're. They're boys. I'm going to be cleaning up pee for the rest of my life.

[Scott]

No, they'll figure it out in their 30s, I imagine. Oh my God.

[Lisa]

They can't, they can't get a target to save their life. It's awful.

[Scott]

You have that moment where you're like, it's on the wall. How to get on the wall.

[Lisa]

No, it's. This is, this is. If I'm not like dealing with pee at work, on the ground or on me, it's at home.

[Scott]

People are just peeing everywhere. Well, there you go. Two little boys and one of them, I don't want to, you know, not using their names, I imagine. But like, what happens with the one? What's the first thing you see? Does, does being a nurse help at all or not? Not at all.

[Lisa]

You know what? So my husband and his friend had a nickname for me. Mother Doom. Because, you know, working in the ER you tend to see some pretty craz. And we had like a week where I was like, this kid is drinking A lot, but, you know, like, they're crazy boys. They're always running around. But then he started having some accidents at night, which he didn't normally do. And the day before I tested his blood sugar, we were down at the penitentiary down in Philly. And this kid was like, I need water. I need water. And I was like, kind of getting frustrated, you know, like, mom of the year, right? I'm like, dude, I'm like, okay, I'll get you water. I'll get you water. So, yeah, the next day we got home from church, and I'm like, something is not right. And, yeah, definitely those spidey senses were going off. Like. And he also looked like he lost weight. Like, that was another big, like, kind of key thing for me. I had tummy surgery years ago, so I had a glucometer at home.

[Scott]

Oh, yeah.

[Lisa]

So just happened to be at home. And so I tested my blood sugar, my husband's blood sugar, just to make sure this, like, dusty thing still worked. And, like, ours were normal. And his Sugar, it was like 4:38. And I like. I mean, it's. I mean. And you know, you went through it with your daughter. Like, it's that, like, you'll never forget that moment because I just knew exactly what it was. And I looked at my husband and I just went upstairs, closed the bathroom door, cried for a couple minutes, and then I called the pediatrician and we landed down at Chop. And thank goodness we caught it before he was in dka. So we had, like, the shortened non ICU version of diagnosis. Yeah. Since then, we also had his twin. We, you know, we went through, like, the auto.

[Scott]

Auto body testing, like trial net or something like that.

[Lisa]

Yeah, Trial net.

[Scott]

Yep.

[Lisa]

Trial net. Easy peasy. So, interestingly enough, what we ended up finding out. So he does not have any of them yet. Hopefully never. But my side of the family, I have Hashimoto's thyroid, which is autoimmune. My mom has the Michael Jackson disease. Vitiligo.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

So that's autoimmune. And as of last week, I noticed this patch on his brother that I am almost certain is vitiligo as well, so.

[Scott]

Oh, okay.

[Lisa]

Don't you think autoimmune runs strong in the family?

[Scott]

If Michael Jackson was still alive, he'd be thrilled that you thought of him that way and not the other way. You know what I mean?

[Lisa]

Right, right, right. Without the fentanyl.

[Scott]

Well. Or the little boys or whatever. Like, there's a lot of, like, it's a big win for Michael Jackson right now, when you, when you said that, right. Really making it feel like I could listen to a couple of Michael Jackson tunes in the car this spring. Well, are you around here? You say you went to chop?

[Lisa]

Yeah, yeah, I'm actually right outside of Philly. Yeah.

[Scott]

Okay, well then there you go.

[Lisa]

Yeah, yeah. So amazing resource team. They like, right away kind of invited me into like the diabetes camp world, which was very interesting, Scott, because I learned that I do it for my son, I do it for the kids that are there. I love. I'm the official, like, Boo Boo Nurse, the med nurse, so I take care of everything non diabetic. So. And it's like a beautiful thing because they take the follow like, like I unfollow him. And so I have this week where I hear 50 million alarms going off, but it's not on my phone, you know?

[Scott]

You know, I don't know if I want to call you Boo Boo Nurse or, or Mother Doom. I'm not. This is going to go. Are you also running around like every time somebody sneezes, you say tell them what's wrong with them. Is that that nickname wasn't just around this diagnosis, was it?

[Lisa]

No. You know, I, I like, no, but if you've had the, like, if you've had it for like three weeks, I'm like, okay, maybe you have pneumonia. Maybe you need a chest X ray. You know what I'm saying?

[Scott]

Okay. Yeah. Okay. So the peeing and the weight loss, does your brain go diabetes or does your brain go something's wrong or you think diabetes Pretty much upfront.

[Lisa]

So initially, before I put him on the scale, to be honest with you, like, it was just like, I know something's wrong. I know something's wrong. But you know, in the nursing world, like, you type one, you take care of them maybe for a couple hours in the er and then they go, whether they're being, you know, shipped to chop or, you know, if they're adults, they're being shipped up to ICU or so. The Type 1 piece definitely was not on my radar, but something was like, check his blood sugar. So deep down I must have been like, okay, you read this in a textbook somewhere?

[Scott]

It's interesting. That's really cool. Um, well, how, how'd it go? Like, who was it a bigger adjustment for you? Your husband, your son, his brother, everybody.

[Lisa]

He, he was just, he's a, he was a rock star. Like, he was a rock star from the get go. And I think for me now, my husband is also in health care. He at the time he was X ray, but now he's MRI dealing with the big magnet. But I think it was more of an adjustment for him for like my mother in law who, you know, takes care of him, you know, because he, they never shot somebody with, you know, an injection before. Like, for me, like, I had one moment while he was still in the hospital where like I was like, it just kind of all came like crashing in. I'm like, oh my God, I'm doing this for my. This is like my kid, you know, this isn't somebody else's kid, this is my kid. And like the enormity of this is the rest of like his life, you know? And I will say his name. Ferran, who was the nurse that day, must have just like saw the look on my face and he's like, go take a walk. I got this. And that's what I needed. I just needed that space for a minute. But yeah, definitely the people, you know, who have never, you know, had to give injections, like, you know, never dealt with insulin and all that good stuff. Definitely a huge learning curve for everybody. Okay.

[Scott]

So it's, it's more about the, the trying to like, figure out the management stuff at first. That's overwhelming.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Lisa]

Which I'm. I just got to throw this out there. Like I. Listening to Bold beginnings, listening to you and Jenny, listening to the stories, not trying to be a suck up, but like, for real. Like that's what got me through that period. Because, you know, like there's so. There's only so much information you get from the hospital. Right. From your endocrine team is technically they're available 24 7. But not everything's a 911 call, you

[Scott]

know, or, you know, you're not always up.

[Lisa]

Right. But you know, from like I laugh like that's how I learned to dose for sushi was through juice Bob, you know, not being afraid to give those big doses because, you know, you have to remember, like, as a nurse, insulin is a two person sign off in the hospital because it's, you know, you could kill somebody with it. Right. So like getting out of my own head that it's okay, I'm not going to kill my kid, you know, and that's honestly like what this podcast did for me for sure.

[Scott]

Listen, I'm, I'm thrilled that it did that for you, but don't let that stop you. That, the, the honesty, that shouldn't stop you from sucking up if you want to.

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Scott]

So I mean that.

[Lisa]

Make sure you shave your face there, Scott.

[Scott]

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, anytime I get a little too full of myself today, you'll be like, there's a patch of hair under your lip, Jack. You just missed it. How did I miss it? Like this. I tried to shave in the shower.

[Lisa]

It happens.

[Scott]

I'm usually good at it.

[Lisa]

It happens.

[Scott]

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[Lisa]

Yeah, like now in the ER, things like, are a little scaled back now. But like for me growing up as a nurse, like anytime you were giving a corrective dose in the hospital, yeah, you had to find a nurse, like, you know, even if it was down the hall, hey, you see this? I'm given seven units. Sign me off, you know. But yeah, it was very even. Lantis, like, don't judge me for this. But like, I was more paranoid about the lantus. Like, even though in my brain I knew, I mean, he's on the pump and everything now. But, you know, I would give the lantus. I'd be like, oh my God, is he going to drop right away? But like, I know better, you know. But yeah, it's definitely like, you know, if you're giving. If somebody's on an insulin drip, which again, like, thank God he didn't need that in the hospital. But like, even just the injections, I mean, it's just, it's programmed in your head. It's a high alert medication. You know, you could kill somebody with this and yada yada, yada. And so. And now here I am, unsupervised. Like, here's my, like, God bless them. But like my X ray tech husband, I'm like, tony, can you double check this?

[Scott]

You know, I love that you're from Philly and your husband's name's Tony.

[Lisa]

Yeah, literally. It's awesome.

[Scott]

Let's just get it out of the way. Now, which cheesesteaks do you prefer?

[Lisa]

Oh, no, you know what? Oh, Dalessandros.

[Scott]

Okay. It's a newer choice.

[Lisa]

Yeah, Dalessandros. They're not as greasy as the other ones.

[Scott]

You know, I never went to Pat's once. No, it's the place across to Emma. We used to go to a lot. What was it called?

[Lisa]

They have cheese fries, though. They have good cheese fries?

[Scott]

Yeah. That's interesting. See, people know. Yeah, that's all. People go to Philadelphia. And while they're here, they're like, I'm gonna get a cheesesteak for sure while I'm. While I'm here.

[Lisa]

Yeah. Or Steve. Steve's is good to tell people how

[Scott]

amazing it was when the Eagles beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.

[Lisa]

Wait, can I tell you something funny? So I was six months pregnant with these, these children.

[Scott]

And you were going to say monsters.

[Lisa]

Well, that too.

[Scott]

There's like a long pause. I'm like, is she pivoting from a Word.

[Lisa]

Right now at this time, they were still quiet and not arguing with me or trying to kill each other on you. Yeah, yeah. So I was six months pregnant with them and my, like, hardcore Eagle Bengals fan husband. They won the super bowl, and there I am. Because we have an older son, too. I should have told you that, Scott. I have a 23 year old, okay. And six months pregnant with twins. Taking the older one down to the parade, which I probably should have done in hindsight. Like, you know, technically geriatric pregnancy, like, you know, twins and. Yeah, like down there, you know, everybody's indulging in different things, drinking, smoking, and there I am with these twins and I'm like, oh, Lord, is that how I ended up giving my kid type one?

[Scott]

Like, no, I don't think so.

[Lisa]

Kidding. I'm just kidding.

[Scott]

But I did just wonder. Do they pee in you while you're pregnant too? They don't pee. Do babies pee while they're.

[Lisa]

Oh, my God, everything's all in that amniotic fluid. Yep, yep, yep.

[Scott]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Do fetuses pee? Let's just go there for a second. As soon as you were talking about pee and then pivoted, the kids being inside you, I was like, oh, my God. Do they pee while they're in development? A fetus starts making urine during pregnancy and that urine becomes a normal part of the amniotic fluid, and the fetus allows. Also swallows amniotic fluid and the fluid gets recycled that way. Dear God, what's wrong with everything?

[Lisa]

There it is.

[Scott]

May I just say right here, when people say, isn't life amazing? It's, it's. It's an obvious, obvious decision to say there's a God. I say, if there was a God, why would he have developed it like this? Do you know?

[Lisa]

Or.

[Scott]

Unless he is a man and he just came up with the first thing he went with and he was like, that's fine. They can pee and then drink it.

[Lisa]

There it is. But then that's why we have the placenta, to keep it nice and clean.

[Scott]

I mean, you say. But I do think, like a female God would have said, like, oh, why did we do it like this? Where the pee goes back into the baby. Why don't we find another way to, like, port that out? You know what I mean?

[Lisa]

There definitely would have been a cleaner system once they're born.

[Scott]

This is horrifying. The placenta is doing the main waste filtering work, not the fetus going to the bathroom. The way a newborn does. It sounds strange. Yeah, it does sound strange.

[Lisa]

A womb.

[Scott]

That is a normal part of development. I mean, normal. What's normal?

[Lisa]

Nothing. There's nothing normal anymore, Scott.

[Scott]

Anyway, point being, that kid's been peeing on you since day one.

[Lisa]

Day one. Since day one. Absolutely.

[Scott]

That's awesome.

[Lisa]

Absolutely.

[Scott]

Nothing like being a mom, huh?

[Lisa]

Now. And you know what? Like. But that also kind of goes back. Like, I. So we. I would take them to the car show every year. We would go down to see the lights at, oh, what's it called? Wanna Makers or whatever. Macy's.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

And

[Scott]

that was a little reach back to your mom.

[Lisa]

Just ate it myself.

[Scott]

Oh, my gosh, that's awesome. You had vinyl. Wait, you had vinyl chairs in your kitchen at some point. I know for sure.

[Lisa]

1 in 81. Scott. Take a deep breath.

[Scott]

I know for sure. Wanamakers. That's awesome. We used to go to Clover.

[Lisa]

Don't even. Oh, my gosh. My friend's mom was a hairdresser at Clover.

[Scott]

I met my first. I met my first real girlfriend at Clover. She was a. She was a cashier there. I went through. I'm gonna let you get to this in a second. I went through a line. I was just there getting something, and this girl was so pretty, like. And I just froze. Like, when I got up to her, I wanted to say something and I didn't. And I thought, that's okay. She works at Clover. She's a. She's a registered person. I. By the way, this used to not be called stalking. I just thought, like, I'd go back and, like, I'll see her again. I'm gonna ask her out. You know, it got to the point where, like, it didn't matter how many times I walked into that store. Like, she was never there.

[Lisa]

Oh, no.

[Scott]

And then it turned into, like, a thing where I was like, well, am I gonna stop? Or. You know what I mean? Because it started. Even felt creepy to me at that point.

[Lisa]

She was gone.

[Scott]

Oh, my God.

[Lisa]

She never existed.

[Scott]

Anyway, I rolled through there one day, and she was just standing there, like, running that cash register. And I was like, oh, my God. I. Like, there was, like, attached to this little mall, and I ran into the mall. I grabbed, like, a single flower from a flower shop. I got in the line, I waited, and it was my turn. I said, hi. I saw you here about six months ago and I wanted to ask you out, and I didn't. And I've been coming back into the store ever since. This is the first time I've seen you. And I was like, this is my name. This is my phone number. Like, if you want to connect like that was it as my own damn Tinder or whatever it's called.

[Lisa]

You remember those days? Oh, my gosh.

[Scott]

I dated that girl for a year before she cheated on me and broke my heart.

[Lisa]

You know what? And now you have your beautiful wife

[Scott]

and family, and she can break my heart every day. She's been doing it for three decades. She's so good at it. I mean, honestly, Arden was giving me crap the other day, and I went, hey, hey, hey, hey. Your mom's already got this covered.

[Lisa]

Yeah, that's right.

[Scott]

You don't need. I don't need a backup, okay?

[Lisa]

Right now, she. She's like the Junior, the Mrs. Junior.

[Scott]

I was like, your mom's doing a great job. I'll let you know. If she dips in production, you can step in and start giving me crap. Okay? But, like, for now, this. Your mom's a pro. She got this.

[Lisa]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Scott]

Anyway, Michelle, if you're out there, I'm sorry if I ever did anything wrong to you, but I had a really good time. Nevertheless, let's move on. Sorry.

[Lisa]

Oh, that's his start.

[Scott]

Well, there's a story that's never been in the podcast before, and what a.

[Lisa]

What a throwback.

[Scott]

Look at you getting one, Lisa. There you go. Like, not all people don't always get good news stories. Sometimes you're like, this guy telling this one again.

[Lisa]

No, that's a good one.

[Scott]

Yeah. Can I tell you one other nice thing I thought I did for her?

[Lisa]

What? What did you do?

[Scott]

It was her. It was her birthday. She was working at that Clover still, basically. We were young. Our lives were, like, working, having sex, going out once in a while, like, right, Like. So it was her birthday. She's working at Clover. She gets off at, like, late at night, like, 10 o', clock, and she's supposed to come to my house afterwards, you know, for her birthday earlier in the evening. I went, I'm gonna sound insane for a second, but I can't wait. We went out and got. Me and my buddy got a bunch of balloons and we blew them up. And, like, enough to. No, don't. Oh, enough to fill her car with front seat, back seat, floorboards, dashboard, everywhere. And then we had a video camera, and she. She. I was way ahead of the Internet, by the way, I just want to say. So she wanders out of work, and she used to have to do the books at the End, if I remember rightly, like, she was going to school to be. And she might be an accountant now, I don't know, because she did cheat on me before she got to codify that decision. But I. But so she stayed late, if I remember, and, like, tills and stuff like that. So she wanders out into this big empty parking lot, just her and a couple of, like, stragglers that work there. And she could see her. She was smoked, I remember. Like, she came out, she lit a cigarette. We're watching from, like, a vantage where she can't say us with a camera. And she's wandering across the parking lot. She's smoking her cigarette. She looks like she's had a pretty long day, if I'm not mistaken. Like, she probably went to school all day before that, you know.

[Lisa]

Oh, my God.

[Scott]

And you see her pull her key out. I know you guys don't know about this, but there used to be, like, a key you put in the side of your car and it opened it.

[Lisa]

No, they don't.

[Scott]

They'd have no idea. And I see her look up, look in the window, and you could. Even though we were maybe 70 yards away from her, you could feel the. What? The look on her face, you know, and then she's like. She opens the door, stares for a second. You can see her contemplating what to do. And then she just starts pulling the balloons out and they're like, all over the parking lot. I probably killed so many dolphins that day.

[Lisa]

That's okay.

[Scott]

Anyway, I thought she was going to find that endearing, but I don't think she did.

[Lisa]

That was. It was the gesture.

[Scott]

Oh, she did enjoy watching the video afterwards. I just thought it was funny. Anyway, that's all I got for you.

[Lisa]

I love it.

[Scott]

We're on our way. We're on our way now.

[Lisa]

We're on our way.

[Scott]

Okay, so this kid of yours has diabetes. You're overwhelmed a little bit, but what do you do to pull it together, Right? So you have support at the hospital side. You are a nurse. You're getting through your fear. You find the podcast, like, you start to settle in. Like, what's moving forward look like once you're settled.

[Lisa]

So, okay, so there was a couple things. So there was, you know, 12 hour shifts was fine before that and before my husband's job changed because then he ended up going to evening shift and, you know, again, like, unfortunately. So the kids had gone to an extended care program at this school, but there were some issues and challenges with them. You know, I don't Want to say taking care of him because, you know, like, we don't expect people to take care of our kids diabetes like we do. Right? Like, you're essentially just keeping them alive, troubleshooting them. But unfortunately, like, we had a not great situation where someone that was ahead of the program was like, well, you know, we can't do that here. We can't, you know, we can't check his blood sugar. Well, anytime if it alarms, we'll just call 911 now. Scott.

[Scott]

Anyone call 911 if you're high. Alarm.

[Lisa]

I swear to God. Can you imagine? I was horrified. But you know what? Me being me, I'm like, I know this is not, like the case. So here I go on the district website because it's, you know, a program from the school, and it clearly says we accept kids with disabilities and yada, yada, yada, copy and paste that. And like, I sent it to her boss. I'm like, I just. Because now you have to remember, Scott, he was still in the hospital at this point. Like, I was like, not messing around because we were on Thanksgiving break. And I'm like, I need to get all this situated. You know, of course, once I got the boss involved, they're like, no, you know, we can, you know, we'll. We'll learn. We'll figure it out. But, like, at that point, I'm like, the boss isn't there, right? Like, it's this woman and some, you know, a couple other people who. That they were phenomenal. I'm like, do I really want to leave my kid with you? You know, thinking that that's your, like, first reaction is you're just going to call 911 all the time?

[Scott]

Well, the first reaction is we don't

[Lisa]

want to be involved 100%.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

And that was just kind of the tip of the iceberg that I learned. And I know it's not just our school district, but in school districts in general. So I had to make a move. And I now my trajectory was nurse nursing leadership. Like, I was a patient safety officer, risk management. Like, I did so much stu. Big healthcare organizations in our city, and I'm like, okay, two master's degree certification. All that's on pause because I got to take care of my kid, right? I got to make sure my kid's safe. I don't want to put him in a situation where people don't want to take care of him or learn to. So that's how I ended up making that switch to school nursing. So, you know, I could Be off when they are and all that jazz.

[Scott]

So are you telling me you have two master's degrees or you were going after them and you stopped doing that?

[Lisa]

No, I finished them. I did them.

[Scott]

What do you have masters in?

[Lisa]

So one's in nursing administration and the other is from temple. While I was working at temple, I did my health care administration.

[Scott]

People hear our accent and just think we're stupid. You know what I mean? I know. I know. People right now in the Midwest are like, that girl's got a degree. That's amazing. How did she do that with her obvious mental disabilities? Yeah, it's because we talk funny doesn't mean we're not smart.

[Lisa]

That's all I know how to write a paper. Okay. Okay.

[Scott]

Well, that's really cool. Wow. But so, well, listen, it's been, what, year, four months now since diagnosis? Something like that. You obviously did this, but did you do it recently to switch to school nursing? I mean, I know you're still in the ER once in a while, but when did you make the switch?

[Lisa]

So last March, I went per diem for the school district. I st just to get my foot in the door and see if I would be able to survive. And then. Yeah, and then when my husband made his little change, I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. I'm going to go full time financially. We'll figure it out. Because nobody goes into school nursing for the pay.

[Scott]

It's a hit, right? I mean, you lose your overtime and all that stuff, right?

[Lisa]

Yeah. If you don't work, you don't get paid. So talk about a financial culture shock for my family. But we're figuring it out.

[Scott]

I gotta tell you, most jobs, if you don't work, you don't get paid. I just want to say that.

[Lisa]

True story. True story. Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Scott]

My question is, though, how long has it been since you made the decision?

[Lisa]

So it's been a year.

[Scott]

A year. Okay.

[Lisa]

It's been a year. Yeah.

[Scott]

My question is, did you need to do it?

[Lisa]

You know what? Yes. I'm going to say yes.

[Scott]

Tell me why. Because I. There are times I feel like I don't know if I say it every time because I don't want to hurt people's feelings. But, like, I think every time someone tells me, for example, they have, like, a diabetes service dog, I go, did you need to do it? Right? Like, because I know the feeling in the beginning of, I gotta quit my job. I mean, people. The people Whose kids get diagnosed with diabetes that then homeschool after that or.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

That's. That's not a small number of people. That happens a lot, right? The nurses that switch to school nursing. Not a small number of people. But I always wonder if they look back in hindsight and go, ah, it would have been all right if I

[Lisa]

didn't do this, did I? You know what? I. I think because. So I was so career focused most of my life that this kind of was a. I don't even know how to describe it, but it was just this huge, like, wall for me because I'm like, I want to keep things as normal as I can for my kid, for my family and, you know, and my husband, like, God love him. Like, he really. He, like, he will. He will tell you. Like, he will say, like, I'm not good at this stuff.

[Scott]

You know, like, when the God love him came out, I figured we were, you know.

[Lisa]

Yeah, there was going to be a little.

[Scott]

But we love him, you know. You know.

[Lisa]

Yeah. But he owns it.

[Scott]

And, you know, Tony, it's wonderful.

[Lisa]

That's my. That's my Tony. Right. My Tony. But, like, he owns it. And, you know, I just kind of. I was not really fulfilled. Like, I left leadership, Scott, because I just. Just, you know, I didn't really fit in. Like, I was one of those people. I was one of those managers where I would switch up my hours and I would. Would work night shift and day shift and both shifts to, you know, to keep my staff from going out of ratio and things like that. And, you know, when you have. Even if it's not that, you know, diabetes, but, like, you know, when you have a kid that requires a little extra. Both my kid have IEPs, ADD. You know, the ADD is our little coin term now or whatever. I just felt like I needed to be more present and being in those leadership roles, I couldn't do that. So. Yeah. So for us, I felt like it was. I really want to be here and be present.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

If that makes sense.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Hold on one second. I'll tell you what I'm doing in a second.

[Lisa]

We shave in our face.

[Scott]

I wish it was that. Hold on. I don't know how this happened. I got a message. I got a message that I had to answer, which.

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Which made my. Which made me pick up my phone. Right. So I replied to the. To the message. And then somehow I clo. I'm. I'm old, so I close apps when I'm done with them. Of course, now, in fairness, My wife is not old and there's currently 875 apps open on her phone, 2500 of them she's never used before and doesn't know what they are.

[Lisa]

I think it's more of a woman thing than an age thing.

[Scott]

I mean, and there's got to be 17,000 emails. I just delete them all. It doesn't matter. Those emails to me are the digital representation of the stuff in my basement that also will never look out again. Nevertheless, I swiped up on imessages and got rid of it. And it brought up my Facebook in front of me and there was just a new message in the group and somebody said, I'm currently crashing and feeling horrible. My husband's not waking up. I took four glucose tablets 40 minutes ago and it's not getting better. Should I just keep taking tablets even though it's clearly not working?

[Lisa]

Come on. At that point, yeah. So she's six are hard.

[Scott]

She's 67. She's obviously, I, I. And so I actually, I thought, like, I thought, you know, I'm working, I can't say. And then I thought, hell, if she thought to post this, like, I'm going to respond 100%. So I just said, juice, high sugar drinks, swish them in your mouth, then get something substantial in.

[Lisa]

So hopefully 67.

[Scott]

And other people. Yeah, other people are popping on now. Anyway, if you're not in that Facebook group, you're making a mistake.

[Lisa]

Exactly.

[Scott]

Yeah, yeah. Nevertheless. Although somebody the other day asked a question and one of the respondents was, you should ask a doctor that. And I was like, this is an online community. Like, I can't. Yeah, yeah. Like, of course she's probably gonna ask her doctor that. She's just, she's probably like, information also. She's an adult also. Shut up.

[Lisa]

Right now.

[Scott]

It just feels like, you know, here, listen, I'll give you an example.

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Scott]

I know some of you buy groceries at Target. I think that's abhorrent. I think Target is for crap and the grocery store is for groceries.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

When I walk through Target and I see you buying your groceries, I don't run up to you and go, you should be shopping in a grocery store.

[Lisa]

Right?

[Scott]

Like, and that's to me, like the same thing. Like, by the way, a poor was probably too strong of a word.

[Lisa]

No, no, but fair. Fair.

[Scott]

I don't like that there's a ream of notebook paper so close to bananas. I don't think it's natural. Okay. I'm not kidding.

[Lisa]

So your hemorrhoid Cream right next to the oranges.

[Scott]

I don't know why you chose that, but yes. Now, I. I would say this. I would say, like, it's a weird thing to come into a group where people are asking each other's opinions. They go, don't ask these people their opinions. Like, what are you doing here? I don't understand.

[Lisa]

I. Anyway, the keyboard warriors.

[Scott]

I mean, I don't even think it's that. I think it's a little. Oop, it's day. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's. Okay. Well, I'm so sorry.

[Lisa]

No, you're good.

[Scott]

I don't know where the hell we were, because the thing happened with the kid and the thing. And what were you talking about?

[Lisa]

We were talking about career.

[Scott]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Lisa]

No, no. Yeah. How I went into school. Yeah.

[Scott]

Okay. So you think it was a good idea because.

[Lisa]

To be present.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

Just to be.

[Scott]

To be around there and to be helpful. So you're in their school. School.

[Lisa]

So I'm actually not in their school, but I'm literally, like, five minutes from there, which is amazing.

[Scott]

So it's more about balancing your schedule with their schedule, then 100.

[Lisa]

And you know what else? Like, so back to, like, when he was first diagnosed. So I don't know how it was, like, when Arden was diagnosed, like, with the school. But, like, it. Like, I went in myself and showed the nurses in his school, you know, the pump. Well, at that point, he was injections, but so we did injections teaching. We did pump teaching. We did, you know, the glucometer and. Wait, don't laugh. But in the hospitals, we're used to, like, these big, like, industrial glucometers.

[Scott]

Yeah, sure.

[Lisa]

So, like, you know when you get into, like, the community and you see these, like, little ones, you're like, oh, my God, what the hell is this? Like, so. And that was like, another kind of little drive for me, to be honest, because I'm like. And the girls that are at his school are amazing. I actually used to work with one way back in the day at Jefferson. Like, amazing nurses. We're very fortunate, but that's not everywhere. And I, like, I know, like, the. The podcast about, like, the. The error that. That, you know, nurse me. I'm like, I can totally see it because these. So I went in, Scott, like, I'm a nurse. Like, can you imagine, like, a parent with a newly diagnosed diabetic who's not healthcare, who's, like, still trying to figure it out, having to go in and teach somebody, like, A nurse.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

It's crazy.

[Scott]

I take your point. Can I take the opposite side of this, please? All right, right now there is a girl, I'm guessing in the shower at my house because she's got to be at school in like an hour and a half, and she's gonna be 22 this summer. Her current A1C is why does it take so load them to load 5.5.

[Lisa]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Scott]

In the last however long this app is is tracking this thing, she's been in range 92.2% of the time.

[Lisa]

It's amazing.

[Scott]

Yeah. And so, like, my question is, is that, like. And she's about to get a degree in psychology. She's got three more classes, then she's going to go off and get an advanced degree because I don' think she wants me to stop working either. Everybody got to keep me moving, you know, and she's fine. And I'm not a school nurse, and I. And I. I'm. I don't know. Like, I. I mean, the only thing I can tell you is that my schedule did match up with hers, and I could be available during the day, which I think is really valuable.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

But the rest of it, I mean, I ran into everything you did. Right. Like, you know, in was it. When did they try to kill her the first time? I think kindergarten. I think they tried to kill her the first time in kindergarten. We stopped it. We made a little more inroads and explaining things to people. I spent time explaining and re. Explaining things to people, getting on the phone, walking them through it when I couldn't expect them to know it.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

It worked. Now I'm not in a factory. I can pick up a phone when I need to in the middle of the day. Like, stuff like that. Back then, in fairness, I don't even think I was right. I wasn't making the podcast. I was. Was. I mean, I was a stay at home. I was basically. I was basically cleaning the laundry and I did other things, by the way. Okay. I don't want to dig into everything I did or like, you know, don't. I don't want stay at home people.

[Lisa]

Man, you're a busy bee, though.

[Scott]

I was a stay at home for a long time. I know how hard it is. Don't worry. There's a lady downstairs still doesn't know what day the trash goes out. In 30 years, she'd be like, is it Tuesday? Nope, not Tuesday. Okay. She don't know. But if I leave the house for too long, I think they start considering just throwing the dishes away. But. But I did have act, so I, I was available or could make myself available. I do think that was a really big deal. I wouldn't, I wouldn't undervalue that, but.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

I don't know. Like, it's, it feels like a lot just to pivot your life around like that.

[Lisa]

Well, and, and here's the thing. Like, the one thing I, I like my. So I'm very fortunate. There's actually another type, one mom that I work with. She's a nurse too. And in every other healthcare setting, right, like, you wouldn't walk into a hospital and be like, hey, you know, let me show you. Like, let me show you how you should check my blood pressure. Right? Like, yeah. And I get like, they, the nurses can't know everything. It's impossible. But every other healthcare setting, like, there is a level of, of clinical education, right? And that is not the case in, in the school districts. And, you know, I'm in like, the different school district groups and, you know, so I know it's like, not just us, and I'm like, wait a second. Like, this is like, probably the most at risk setting. Right? Like, you're in the community, whether it's your diabetics, your seizure kids, you know, whatever else. There's a million different kids with different issues we take care of. And so, like, why is that not the same? Why is that bar not set as high as it is in other settings?

[Scott]

So, so I agree with you. And I. And, and I, I'm trying to like, kind of, kind of say both sides, like, of this. Because I don't want. Because I also would tell you that I sent my kid off and I thought the very same thing. I thought if this nurse knew what she was doing, wouldn't she work in a hospital?

[Lisa]

Right?

[Scott]

You know, the guy's driving a school bus. Like, like he's a retired guy or somebody whose best job they could get was driving a school bus, and now they're in charge of the health. Like, and by the way, I, I don't think I could get a job driving a school bus. So, like, I'm, you know, I'm like, I'm not, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's no knock on anybody. I'm just saying that this is a school bus driver, not a, not a medical person. And it feels like there's going to be medical issues everywhere. But they're not really, though. They're like, for the most part. Part, I find the most Part like, managing diabetes is like being ready for when it happens, not taking care of the thing that's always happening. Because it's not always happening, it's correct. You know what I mean? Like, but there's no way to know that in the beginning. So it feels the way you're describing. Because I felt that. I felt that way too.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

What I'm saying is, I mean, what gear is the kid using there? They got like a pump.

[Lisa]

Yeah. So we got the omnipotent xcom.

[Scott]

Is it an. Is it an automated system?

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Scott]

I mean, you know, they're. He's probably okay. You know what I mean? Like. Right, right. And the day is pretty. I mean, except they move those schedules around sometimes like they're trying to kill you. Like, you know, like the days are pretty structured. Right, right. You know when you're putting in food, you know when you're putting in insulin, etc.

[Lisa]

Exactly.

[Scott]

I don't know. I fixed it with texting because I had your fear, too. And I was just like, here, this is a phone. You and I are now talking.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

And you know, by the way, now she don't, you know, if I, if I texted her now about her diabetes, she'd be like, I didn't see that.

[Lisa]

I'm like, right, okay, well. And you know what? He's in second grade and bless his heart, like, he actually was the one that identified. We had one day that was just because oftentimes I'm the only nurse at the school I'm at. So, like, I can't just like, get up and leave usually. Sure. And we were having these highs and I'm like, okay, like, this isn't making sense. Let's do some blah, blah, blah. And then I'm like, okay, something is definitely the site needs to be changed or something. So I'm like coordinating another nurse to come to my school for the 15 minutes it's going to take me to get to his school and change everything and come back. And he actually texted me, Scott, at seven years old and was like, like, mom, it's not an automated mood.

[Scott]

Good.

[Lisa]

I was like, I was so proud of him.

[Scott]

I'm like, oh, my gosh, you didn't think, oh, hell, I could have kept my job at the er? Yeah.

[Lisa]

Seven years old. I was so proud of him.

[Scott]

That's awesome. But that's my point is that's going to keep happening. It's just hard to believe that in the beginning. Yeah. And for people that it doesn't happen for. Well, then. Right on. You Know what I mean? Like, if it becomes issue. But you brought up earlier that episode of the podcast that I did with a woman who, if I'm remembering it correctly, the school nurse gave the kid, like, 150 units of insulin or some crazy thing, like. And people are like, how is that possible? Like, trust me, you gotta go listen to it.

[Lisa]

Horrific.

[Scott]

There's this. This crazy, like, stream of events that leads to the mom, like, saving the kid. And like, it's a. It's a crazy story. It's so popular on the podcast. Because why. I think it's. I think it's because it. It's a little bit of that, like, true crime feeling a little bit. And people love that. Actually, we should really dig into the psychology of why that is. But I don't have time right now, today. But the other reason is I think it, like, cements people's fears, right? They're like, I knew that school nurse was gonna kill my kid. You know what I mean? And look at. Almost. But what I would say to that is, that kid didn't even die.

[Lisa]

Right. Yeah.

[Scott]

And how many, you know, how many times you turn the news on and hear about the school nurse killing a kid? Like, it doesn't happen that frequently. Not, not frequently enough to upend your life, I think.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

You know what I mean?

[Lisa]

And you. And like, I guess, like, for me, like, having the patient safety background, like, again, like, I always have to be mindful I'm not in a hospital. I don't have, like, joint commission or department of health. Like, so I have to scale myself back. But the one thing that I think about is being proactive. And I do think that our districts do have the duty to make sure. Like, if you're gonna. If you're gonna be putting nurses in these schools, you know, you better make sure they can safely take care of them, you know? Why you laughing?

[Scott]

How long have you been alive? Lisa? How long have you been alive?

[Lisa]

44 years.

[Scott]

Go ahead and name me all the places you run into where people are rock solid in their jobs and doing what they're supposed to do.

[Lisa]

I know, but we can do better.

[Scott]

We can do better. We could.

[Lisa]

We can do better.

[Scott]

No one's going to. They could.

[Lisa]

Me and my girl, we're going to be. We're gently pushing because we don't want to get fired. We're gently pushing from inside. Like, this is what we could do. Like, and in schools, think of, oh, this is, you know, not diabetes related, but this is awful, too. Like, think about, have you Ever heard of stop the bleed training?

[Scott]

The what?

[Lisa]

Oh, God.

[Scott]

Wait, stop the bleed training?

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Scott]

What's it got? Something to do with pressure and tourniquets?

[Lisa]

Exactly.

[Scott]

I mean, I don't need that. I got common sense. But go ahead. What do you got?

[Lisa]

There we go. But think about, God forbid, school shootings, like, things like that. Like, again, like, just basic little things that, like, you know, just making sure. Again, no one's going to be comfortable in that situation. Right.

[Scott]

Like, you got to train people, you're saying.

[Lisa]

Exactly. Just give them a basic. Just give them a foundation.

[Scott]

Are you telling me that school nurses don't have stop the bleed training?

[Lisa]

Not all of them.

[Scott]

Okay, well, I'm gonna tell you that I think once the shooting starts, you're not. I mean, it's not a. It's not a field tested, you know, battle ready medic out there. Like, you're gonna get what you get out of people.

[Lisa]

Exactly.

[Scott]

I do think that there's something to that, by the way, that it's nice to plan. And I'm not saying you shouldn't have some. Some basic knowledge. Like, I. I think that's a great idea because maybe when the panic hits, you'll remember something and do it.

[Lisa]

Right?

[Scott]

I mean, even there's a. Where was the Yankee game the other day? It's like the beginning of the baseball season. Some guy has like a mi. At a. At a game, right? And this dude comes over and they're looking at him, and this guy's gonna die. And this dude comes over and just starts doing CPR on him, right? Well, guess what? Never did CPR in his life. He didn't know what the hell he was doing, but he kept him. He kept him alive till the rescue squad got there, right? And then. Yeah, and then the great story is like. Like he literally does chest compressions on the guy till. Till EMS comes, hands him off. He goes back to his seat, six back down, starts watching the game again. People watched him afterwards. In a world apparently where everybody wants to be on camera, do something. He watched the game, clapped for the game, the game ended, he stood up and walked out of the stadium. He wasn't looking for anybody or nothing. See, but my. Yeah, but see, my point is, is that when push comes to shove, yeah, some people are going to have it, and some people aren't.

[Lisa]

Aren't 100%.

[Scott]

And you can. And by the way, I don't. I. I've never heard the word stop the bleed before in my entire life. But if you get shot near Me. And I don't flip out. I'm guarantee you I'm gonna put pressure on the wound and if I can't stop it, I'll tourniquet. Because I've seen Grey's Anatomy and I live through er. I'm that old. Okay, so I've seen.

[Lisa]

Watch the pit.

[Scott]

And I watch the pit. I've been through three major medical television shows in a lifetime. I guarantee you if I don't cry or myself during the shooting that you're describing, I am going to be valuable. But no one's ever told me how to stop the bleed. I also bet you that in that same situation, there are going to be people who have stopped the bleed training who pee themselves and cry in a corner.

[Lisa]

Right. 100.

[Scott]

What are we prepping for?

[Lisa]

Right, Right.

[Scott]

You'd be much better, better off if you didn't eat ultra processed foods and went for a walk than worried about this stuff. Don't let me make too much sense today. I feel like I gotta start. I gotta start a church. Don't you think I'd be great? I think once you wind me up, it doesn't really matter what you say in church is what I've noticed. So you just start talking in a direction and like being loud once in a while. It really works.

[Lisa]

No, it's therapeutic.

[Scott]

I mean, I think I'm good at it. It.

[Lisa]

I would think so. How many followers I just not tall enough.

[Scott]

That really does slow me, actually. I feel like I could be the governor of a major state if I was taller, but without the height and the handsome. You're not pulling it off.

[Lisa]

Well, just get some like, you know, those chunky soul shoes, you'll be all right.

[Scott]

You want me to Tom Cruise the whole thing? That son of a is walking around. He's walking around cinder blocks. I'll tell you that right now. I saw him on a red carpet the other day. I was like, why is he the same height as that person he's standing next to? I know that ain't right. Yeah, yeah. I don't have the looks for the height for that.

[Lisa]

Oh, stop. I don't have kind of the hair though, right?

[Scott]

You have great hair. I have to tell you. My hair is fantastic. Actually, I just did a. I'm finally allowed to talk about this. I did some social media for Omnipod.

[Lisa]

Yes.

[Scott]

And it went up yesterday.

[Lisa]

Yeah, I saw it. Yeah.

[Scott]

And listen, if you didn't like comment and share, I don't want to hear from you. Okay? I got. I know I did I need to move it around. But. But it popped on. Like, I had to settle up and there's things I had to do behind the scenes with the video. Right? And it. It's weird when a video starts playing and it's you. I'm not gonna lie to you. Like, it's strange, but as it was playing in the background, like, you know when you're setting up stuff on Instagram and the audio is just playing, you're like, just shut up so I can finish this. Like, right, well, just imagine it's my own voice and.

[Lisa]

Oh, my God.

[Scott]

But I did stop at the end and I, I texted the person that I. That I, you know, kind of spearheaded the production of the videos with, and I said to her, I was like, you know, this is going to sound weird coming from me, but I do have a really great voice for this stuff.

[Lisa]

Wait, no, I am telling you, like, those in those, like, beginning, like, weeks and days, like, this is going to sound so creepy. But, like, yours and Jenny's voices were just, like, my comfort. It sounds so weird.

[Scott]

But I appreciate that. And I, and I, seriously, I, I. That means a lot to me. I'm just saying I have a nice, deep voice and it worked in the video. And it's the only thing that struck me about, besides the fact that I knew I was wearing makeup. So I was like, oh, my God. Felt a little weird.

[Lisa]

I know your shave was perfect that day.

[Scott]

I was very well shaved that morning. Yeah, yeah, like a baby's butt. But. But I got the, the, you know, the. You get there, and the makeup person, like, you know, does your makeup and everything, and you're like, oh, my God. Like, actually, Arden did a bunch of stuff for them that day, too. So you'll see some. You'll see some stuff from Arden, but Arden didn't like her hair, so she got done with it. And, and my wife's like, how did it go? And she's like, my hair looks terrible. And Kelly's like, why didn't you say something? She's. Because the makeup lady did it. I didn't care. And I was like, yeah.

[Lisa]

She's like, I didn't care that much.

[Scott]

But I have to tell you, we all have to mature into the kind of confidence that Arden has, right? To show up somewhere, have someone style her hair a way that she's not comfortable. And she didn't give a crap. She just went out, stood in front of a camera, and did a thing. She'd never done that before in her entire life.

[Lisa]

That's amazing.

[Scott]

The first thing she ever did was what they asked. Like, that's the first job she's ever even had. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. And she just stood out. She's never done that before. She stood in front of all those cameras and, like, on a set with all these lights, and she was just doing the stuff they asked her to do. Do. It's pretty cool. We had a really nice day.

[Lisa]

But that's, like. That's, you know, a testament to, like, what you and your wife have built for her, you know?

[Scott]

I don't know about that. She's pretty good on her own. I don't think she needs us too much, but. And don't tell Omnipod this. Like, I had such a nice time with Arden. I would have. They didn't. They didn't even have to pay me. But I will if we do it again. Ask for money. Yeah. I just want to say so. But, no, they came out, really. And hopefully they help, because I'm seeing from people, they're like, this is good foundational information that I forgot. Like, I. I had a woman tell me yesterday. I. I use Omnipod 5. I know this. It's a thing I forgot. And it's good to be reminded 100%.

[Lisa]

Yeah, it is. It's great. It's just like, the high level, like, snapshot, and definitely good reminders.

[Scott]

And it's hard to. It's. You know, I. I sent this per. I don't want to say her name here because she's not looking for that. But, like, the person who I, again, like, did this work with, I texted her yesterday because I was really pleased with it and how people were responding to it. And I think it's really important to remind people over and over again, again. And, you know, you can come to the conclusion that, like, well, it's foundational information. Like, we. We already said it. Like, we can't say it again. And I said, I think of it the same. I think it the opposite way. I was like, you should be saying this constantly.

[Lisa]

Right, right.

[Scott]

Always new people showing up, always new people diagnosed, always people forgetting. It's really valuable to. To repeat this stuff for people.

[Lisa]

Absolutely. And it does. Like, I like what you said about forgetting because there's so many. There's, like, a billion things going on, and it could be like, that one little, like, oh, crap. Crap. Yeah, I could do that.

[Scott]

You know, it happens to me all the time. Yeah. Like, it happened to me. I mean, yesterday. Like, you know, you guys know if you're listening pretty consistently. Arden has a pretty significant needle phobia. So there are times when she just can't bring herself to give herself her GLP medication. And, you know, she'll do it for weeks in a row, and everything's great, but then sometimes she's like, oh, I can't. Like, she just can't bring herself to do it, and she starts to put it off, and once you put it off, it kind of. It'll stretch into weeks, you know? Know. And she did it again recently, and I said, hey, you're gonna have to change settings, you know, but we're gonna have to change them again in a few days and take down insulin to carb ratio, make it weaker. Gonna have to make Basil weaker. You're gonna have to make insulin sensitivity weaker, like, all this stuff. And all day yesterday, I was like, why does she keep getting low? I mean, like, she just shot that med, like, four days ago. And I know what's going on, and trust me, if you ask me, I can explain it to you. And I forgot, like, six hours throughout the day. Like, it didn't occur to me until finally I, like, smacked myself in the head. And I walked into her, and I was like, what's going on? She's like, I'm low. And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, your settings are all wrong because you took the glp. So we put them back. She slept overnight.

[Lisa]

Perfect blood sugar, say, because life happens, right?

[Scott]

That's exactly right. And so anyway, there's a ton of value in repeating things that might seem basic to you. I would give that message to people in the Facebook group, too, who can sometimes get frustrated, like, oh, this question's been asked already. You don't want to stop. You let people ask those questions as many times as they want, you know?

[Lisa]

Absolutely.

[Scott]

Yeah. Anyway, what have we not talked about, not done? What have we missing? I want to make sure we don't, like, pivot too far away from things you want to do. Anything at all?

[Lisa]

No, I think we talked about. We talked about the beginning. We talked about school, nursing. We talked a little bit about diabetes camp.

[Scott]

Yeah, you're doing good.

[Lisa]

We have a lot.

[Scott]

So what do you see for the future here? Like, what are your goals for your son in the. In the interim these next couple of years? Like, where are you hoping for him to get to with the diabetes?

[Lisa]

Oh, you know what? He already wants to be, like, very independent with it, and we just keep building on that. When we were at Camp Freedom last summer, he Changed like his pod himself for the first time. I mean, at that point. November, December, January, March, April, May, June. He was only a diabetic for eight months at that point. I just, I want him to keep that spirit of just, you know, rolling with it, you know, independence. He loves, like, he loves. Him and his brother both actually love teaching people about it. So just getting. Yeah, like, keeping that momentum and. And you know, of course He's. He's still 7, so of course he gets, like, upset sometimes, and especially if we have to take a little break of, you know, whatever activity because he's low. But we signed up for the triathlon the district's having, and I just want him, I want to make sure we lay the foundation for him that he knows, you know, he can do it, he can do whatever the heck he wants. You know, this is just something that's part of him that, that, you know, we have to continue to address, but it's not going to stop him.

[Scott]

You know, you said in the beginning when you realized he had type one, you went upstairs and cried for a minute. Have you cried since then? How do you manage the anxiety and the stress?

[Lisa]

Oh, God, Scott. I had a full blown panic attack for the first time in my life.

[Scott]

Did you?

[Lisa]

Oh, I'm not even kidding. It was like six months after he was diagnosed, so. And it was the stupidest thing that triggered it because at that point he was on injections and he was like, high, but not crazy high. And I didn't know if I should send him to school or wait a couple minutes and talk to Chop. Like, and it was all right about when school was starting. Like, I went through everything. He went to school, everything was fine. And I was getting fingerprinting done because I was actually going to be starting at the school. And I started getting like, real trembly. And I'm like, what is wrong with me? And I got home and I just lost it. I called, well, talking about neighbors. I called my, my neighbor Nikki and I was like, crying. I'm like, I feel like the world's closing in on me. Like, it was like I. When people come into the ER with panic attacks, like, like, I now like, understand what that's like. You feel like you're dying. And it was all triggered because I just, I was like, do I, do I send him late to school? Do I keep him? Like, it was stupid. It's not even like my kid, like, had like a seizure. Like, it was like the most stupidest thing that triggered it. So just worried that's what Lexapro's for Scott. So life's been great since.

[Scott]

I like to point out to the producers of the HBO series Task, which I did enjoy that we where you just did, you know, you heard Lisa say home just a second ago. And sure she went home a little bit when she said it, but it wasn't the way you got everybody on the TV show and that. You remember the cat, Kate Winslet one where she was like, she'd run around every six minutes she'd be going like, I gotta go home. And I'm like, we don't talk like that. You were ruining it. I like Kate Winslet. And every time she went home, I'm like, come on, that's a little too much. But they, they did it in Task too. It's almost like they're like right home into the script every three moments. So we know we're in the Wissahicken area.

[Lisa]

Right.

[Scott]

By the way, is a word like most people are not gonna understand.

[Lisa]

Right, right, right.

[Scott]

Another question, apropos of almost nothing, how disappointed, or let's say heartbroken was your husband when the boys were twins and he couldn't call one of them, Anthony Jr.

[Lisa]

Wait, okay, so real quick. So we initially, because I'm like older and it was multi gestational, did that

[Scott]

come the old fashioned way or did you guys do a consamination or so?

[Lisa]

Just FYI, so women over. I forget if she said it was 30 or 35. We drop, we start dropping eggs like crazy. So the chances of naturally, like a

[Scott]

drunk Easter bunny, your uterus is like, I don't know how many she needs dropping.

[Lisa]

They're coming, they're coming hardcore, right? And yeah, so that, that was it naturally occurring because of, you know, being old. So they told us we were having a boy and a girl. It turned out we went for our first anatomy scan and clear as day, Scott, there was two penises. Like even me, who can't read a ultrasound. I'm like, oh my gosh. So the blood test was wrong. And what ended up what we found out was. So they asked us, the company said, can you send cord blood after the boys are born so we can figure out why our test was wrong? Hence we found out his twin has Klinefelters. So traditionally they just read two chromosomes, so XX or xy. So they thought maybe they read my DNA in it. But it turned out Jason is xxy. So because of that, now they read three chromosomes over.

[Scott]

Oh, you guys fixed the test.

[Lisa]

Yeah, hopefully.

[Scott]

Now it's called the Jason test. But, like. Wait, wait, what does that mean, though, the. Whatever you said he has Kleinfelters. Yeah. What is that?

[Lisa]

So essentially, you know, like, normally your XX or your X, Y. Your X, Y if you're a boy, your XX if you're a girl. So Kleinfelters is when you have an extra X chromosome. So it varies in severity. Like, the more you have, like, if you had, like, three or four, like, there can be some more, like, serious issues.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Lisa]

But for Jason, the only thing he has, which it doesn't ever stop him, is, like, a little bit of a low muscle tone.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Lisa]

But later in life, there could be some challenges, like, you know, reproductively. So we're actually part of a study at Nemours called the XXY Study. They just do. They check his hormones, like, once a year just to make sure. So when he does start going through puberty, if he needed a little extra of whatever, he could get it. But. But just because there's so many, like, older people having babies now, it's kind of coming up a little more frequently than it used to back in the day.

[Scott]

But it's incredibly interesting. I'm glad we touched on that. I do wonder, though, was I right about the Anthony Jr. Thing, though?

[Lisa]

Like, no. 100%, because we were supposed to have a junior, Scott.

[Scott]

I mean, you guys are Italian. You're from Philly. You would definitely call that kid Anthony Jr. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lisa]

So we split it, and I don't care. I'll say the name. So we have Anthony. Anthony. And we have Jason. So. Yeah, you didn't.

[Scott]

You couldn't make him a junior, though, right? Or did you?

[Lisa]

No, because we didn't want the other one to have, like, lifelong. Well, why wasn't I?

[Scott]

Oh, I know. Yeah. It's definitely because the Klein Schloppers, that's why they didn't pick me. That's her. Whatever. Klein. Touchers. Feelers.

[Lisa]

That's all right.

[Scott]

Yeah. I'm not gonna remember it exactly. Wow. I'm just very impressed with myself that I knew for sure you wanted to name one of those kids Anthony. That's not in any of the notes. I just want everyone to know that I was all over that. There's no way that that wasn't. What's going on. Listen, you know, you younger people, you think that generalizing is bad and it's rude. I'm telling you, it's a quick way to get to the answer.

[Lisa]

That's right.

[Scott]

You know? Yeah. Everyone doesn't follow the same pattern, but a lot of us do.

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Yeah, that's pretty much it. We learned a lot in this episode. I'm definitely calling this episode. You're never going to guess, actually.

[Lisa]

Oh, I can't even imagine.

[Scott]

I wanted Mother Doom, but it just didn't go far enough. And you said it way too early in the episode. Episode. You said something after that that I really liked, but I forgot what it was, so I must not have liked it that much. I'm definitely calling this one Drunk Bunny in. Because of your fallopian tubes. Just throwing those eggs all over the place.

[Lisa]

That's the best.

[Scott]

That's it. It's called Drunk Drunk Bunny. That's what I'm doing.

[Lisa]

I love it. I love it.

[Scott]

I hope that right now people who listen all the way through were like, what a ripoff. And by the way, if you did, I got you, suckers. You're still here, here. Okay. So anyway, this is a good conversation. I appreciate this.

[Lisa]

No, thank you. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah.

[Scott]

Tell all the people how the Phillies are letting us down right now in the beginning of the season. Just in case, we'll mark this as a time capsule. It's very upsetting. Explain. Be serious for a second. Because you work in an er.

[Lisa]

Uh huh.

[Scott]

If this is something you're aware of, if it's not, you just say, scott, this is the end of the conversation. I have no idea what you're talking about right now, but talk about what you see in the mood of the city when the sports teams do better versus when they don't do as well.

[Lisa]

So. So, okay. It's not so much as to how they're doing, but the timing of games. Right.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Lisa]

So what happens is, you know, especially the men. No offense, but I am clumping you together.

[Scott]

It's fine.

[Lisa]

Y' all need to get in before the game, Right? Oh, I'm having chest pain. Let me make sure. But I have to be out. I need all these. I need everything grad. I need to be out by one o'. Clock. When the game starts.

[Scott]

People ask you to push their labs up because they got to go watch the Phillies.

[Lisa]

Well, what. How long am I going to be here? The game's on or after the fact? After the game, too. I've had chest pain since before the

[Scott]

game started, but the Eagles were tied in the third quarter and I didn't want to leave the house, but.

[Lisa]

And it's the same thing. It's not only the games, but sometimes not so much now, but like there used to be a Time where it would be dead during the game, you know? Yeah, yeah, but same thing with holidays. Everybody waits till afterwards.

[Scott]

Or you ever go to a grocery store during a football game, there's just women walking around.

[Lisa]

It's amazing. That's the best time to go. Or senior citizen day, whatever.

[Scott]

Right.

[Lisa]

You don't mind getting hit by a cart?

[Scott]

I don't mind that. There's so much. But you don't see anything where, like, violence goes down when sports teams are doing better. Like, I know it's not a thing you see on your level.

[Lisa]

If there's alcohol on board, they don't need to win or lose. People just do silly things and.

[Scott]

Yeah, well, that kid fell off that light pole and died last year.

[Lisa]

That was awful.

[Scott]

Yeah, that was awful. They greased the light poles to keep them off and that kid still got up there. Yeah, yeah.

[Lisa]

I mean, when you're young, right?

[Scott]

Let's. Let's listen. We'll end this with a psa. If you're drunk, the last place you want to be is 50ft in the air on a greasy pole. Okay. It's just not a good idea. All right. We've gone over a lot of things today. Thank you very much for doing this. I really do appreciate it. Hold on one second for me. I'm going to tell you a couple things after we're done recording. All right, see you. Us Med sponsored this episode of the Juice Box podcast. Check them [e-mail] juicebox or by calling 888-721-1514, get your free benefits check and get started today with USMED. A huge thanks to my longest sponsor, Omnipod. Check out the Omnipod 5 now with my link omnipod.com juicebox you may be eligible for a free starter kit. A free Omnipod 5 starter kit at my link. Go check it out. Omnipod.com Juicebox terms and conditions apply. Full terms and conditions can be found@ omnipod.com juicebox okay, well, here we are. At the end of the episode, you're still with me. Thank you. I really do appreciate that. What else could you do for me? Why don't you tell a friend about the show or leave a five star review. Maybe you could make sure you're following or subscribed in your podcast app. Go to YouTube and follow me. Or. Or Instagram TikTok. Oh, gosh. Here's one. Make sure you're following the podcast in the private Facebook group as well as the public Facebook page. You don't want to miss, please. Do you not know about the private group? You have to join the private group. As of this recording, it has 74,000 members. They're active, talking about diabetes, whatever you need to know. There's a conversation happening in there right now, now. And I'm there all the time. Tag me. I'll say hi. All right, let's get down to it. You want the management stuff from the podcast. You don't care about all this chitting and chatting with other people. Juicebox podcast.com lists. They are downloadable, easy to read. Every series, every episode, they're all numbered. Makes it super simple for you to go right into that search feature in your audio app. Type juice box1795 to find episode 1,795-juiceboxpodcast.com lists. The episode you just heard was professionally edited by Wrong Way Recording wrongwayrecording. Com.