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Welcome back friends to another episode of the Juice Box Podcast.
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Hello, this is Jack. I'm a type 1 diabetic from Ohio and my journey in life is to just inspire as many others to live with confidence with type 1 diabetes.
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Hello, this is Jack. I'm a Type one diabetic from Ohio and I got diagnosed when I was 9 years old in the 4th grade and my passion and my journey in life is to just inspire as many others to live with confidence with type 1 diabetes.
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Jack, how old are you now?
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I am 19 years old. I actually just turned 19 not that long ago. So.
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Happy birthday. What gives you this calling? Where did this come from?
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You know, I just feel like I came from a point in my life where I was at a point where I didn't manage my health and I kind of let it slip. And then now I'm just kind of always trying to pursue my best self and take care of my health. And I've seen it in others that I know I can touch and reach and really help out to make them, you know, be the best that they can be and optimize their health.
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Really?
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Yep.
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Wait a minute. What's going on here? Who raised you? Why are you such a good person? What's happening? I'm confused. You're too young for all this.
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My beautiful mother and my great dad.
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Wow. Your beautiful mother. Did she pay you to say that? Not. That's wonderful. We're going to learn more about you then. So would you say you were fourth grade when you were diagnosed? Yeah.
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Yeah. Fourth grade. Yep. Fourth grade. It was about kind of closer to summer, so. Yeah, I do remember that I had
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a teacher named Mr. Segola in first grade or fourth grade. He hated my guts, really didn't like me.
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Yeah. Well, luckily I had a really good fourth grade teacher that actually, when I got back from the hospital, when I got diagnosed, they had like a huge, like. Like they wrote like all thank you cards or like, get well notes for me as soon as I got back. So, yeah, that was a special thing that. Very nice she did. Yeah.
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Well, do you have any brothers or sisters?
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Yeah, I have a brother and one sister. Yep. And they're a lot older than me. I'm the young kid in the family.
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Are you what they call a whoops baby or you know the term?
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Yeah, I'm familiar with it, but I. I just hope I'm not your parents
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told you that's not what's going on. Don't worry. We just. No, we just woke up 10 years later and thought it would be great to have a baby again.
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Yep. Yeah.
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That's a lie, by the way. Jack, don't let him lie to you, okay?
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Right.
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I think your parents went to a. Your parents went to a wedding and probably. You know what I'm saying, they came home a little tipsy and now here you are. Hey, God bless. Thank God you're here. Right?
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Right. Yeah.
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What do you remember about being diagnosed?
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So obviously you have, like, the early signs like, frequent, like, going to the bathroom, rapid hydration. And with that, it was. I just. I just felt off. Right. And it. And then we noticed it, and, you know, I gained a lot of weight also. Another one. And we went to the doctors and, you know, they ran the tests and blood. And my blood sugar was like four hundreds. Like, hyper, like, very. Hypoglycemia things. And so, you know, we went to the. We got it all settled and just like that, I was in the hospital bed and kind of remember a little bit of it because I was. I mean, I was only. It was a long time ago, but, you know, I remember the, you know, the having to learn everything, the charts, the tables and. Yeah, I remember all that stuff.
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What are you, about nine or ten at that age?
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Yeah.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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Okay, so you've been doing this a decade now?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay. Do you recall the division of labor around diabetes after it happened? Did one of your parents take charge? Did they both kind of share it? Did they give it to you?
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Yeah. So my mom, who I was living with at the time, it was a lot to take in, and my dad stepped in a lot, but it was just. Yeah, parents were hands on. They were learning anything. They could read the books. You know, they were. Had all, like, the food charts that tells you all the carbs and, you know, like, the portion meals and. Yeah, it was pretty hands on. We changed our diets and. Yeah, it was okay.
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Jack, you were living with your mom at the time. Your parents are divorced?
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Yes. Yes, they are. Yeah.
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Is it because they had a baby, do you think, when they were, like, too old? I'm just teasing. It's not your fault. Check. It's not your fault. I'm just joking.
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That's not good.
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It's just, you know, the way you said it, I thought, okay, they weren't together. And so even though they weren't together, this is interesting. How long had they not been together when you were diagnosed?
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I would say maybe four or five years.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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And then did their relationship change after your diagnosis? Like, did they kind of come together around this, or what was that process like?
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, it kind of brought, like. It kind of brought us together because, you know, my family's never seen something like this, and obviously it's a very serious disease and illness to get at a young age. So they, you know, we were kind of united back together and everything kind of clicked. And. Yeah, it's also just a good thing to see.
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Well, that's a very, like, Nice hopeful thing. Honestly, like I feel warmed by that. Okay, so they come together, try to learn their best to do, you know, to do the best for you. And then. Are you using injections, a pump?
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Yeah.
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What's all that look like?
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Yeah, so I started out with, I didn't hop on the Dexcom until maybe, well, a CGM a couple years after it. But yeah, I just started with the basic, you know, just injections, you know, all the spots and just pricking and doing all like the meter tests and that type of stuff. And you know, this is like the classic carb counting where you just look at the back of the label added up by your. All the ratios. Yeah, it was just kind of really, just trying to get a fundamental base of it at first.
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Yeah. Were you thrown off by the diagnosis? Did you feel sad or worried or anything like that?
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Yeah, I definitely had the anxiety and I didn't really know what it was because I was such a young age. I was like, what, like what's my life going to look like for the next, you know, how however, so many years am I going to have to, you know, hide about this? I'm a type 1 diabetic. Am I going to have to worry about it? So there definitely was some anxiety and maybe, you know, like, why did this happen to me? Kind of thoughts.
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Okay. Is that a thing that you handled, talking to your parents, talking to friends on your own? Did you seek therapy? What did you do for those?
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So I mean that was kind of a thing that I kind of talked to my parents about and like other peers and friends kind of, kind of gave me encouragement a bit. But yeah, I mean through the laters, through the kind of to present and a couple years back it's just kind of just have to rely on self confidence and self talk to know that, you know, like self talk.
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Jack, what are you, 55? One of your parents, a therapist? Where you get self talk from?
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Nah, I just, I'm a tick tock baby.
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Is that where you heard it from? Where'd you get that from?
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No, no, it's just, just something that I really like to, you know, Jack,
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I like you a lot. I just don't even know where you would get that phrase at 19.
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Yeah, I read a lot of books and watched a lot of podcasts or listen a lot of podcasts, you could say.
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Do you, what kind of reading do you enjoy?
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I like a lot of like, well, obviously like psychological books, like self help books, kind of just like those books, like just, you know, the typical Those type of books.
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I don't think it's that typical for most people.
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Yeah.
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What's your favorite book you've read in the last six months?
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It's a book called. It's called Go On More. It's by Nick Baer. He's a. Like a. He's like an entrepreneur. He's a founder of this, like, endurance company.
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Okay.
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And it's kind of just talking about, like, how you as an individual can, you know, you know, where you come from or what your kind of circumstances are. You can always, you know, raise the level of your standard and just kind of go on more in life and just kind of be the one who you kind of want to be. And yeah, you just have to follow the principles. And, yeah, you can.
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What do you want to do? Are you in college right now?
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No. So I actually graduated high school last year, and I am currently trying to become an airline pilot or a professional pilot.
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Okay. You're a motivated young man. I feel like we're jumping around, but I don't care. What. What got you interested in aviation?
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You know, just a. Like, the aviation field in general is just. Just fascinating for me because, you know, like, I just love, like, planes, to be honest. I just love to, you know, watch planes take off and land. And then, you know, I kind of kind of dug my feet into the topic. And then I started seeing things that were like, wow, man, this is something I really want to do now.
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What's the pathway to getting your pilot's license? Or maybe you haven't already.
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So that. Yeah, so that's actually a very heinous and long process for type 1 diabetics. So initially you have to go to get your exam, like, every. For your medical certificate, and you get there. And I got there. I was, you know, optimistic. And then they told me, since I'm type one, I had to get denialed, like, initial denial for reconsideration. And with that, it's been a long process of, you know, you have to do a certain. You have to see a cardiothoracic or cardiovascular health for your heart, eyes, feet, and then, you know, just general controllable of type 1 diabetics to make sure that, you know, you're fit to fly, you control it well. And there's a lot of processes you have to do with the doctors, and then also with that, you have to maintain six months of stable, like, Dexcom data or any CGM that you use. And it has to be in their, like, kind of standards. And just to make sure it's controllable and you have it under control.
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Okay.
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But yeah, it's a long process, but, you know, it's something I love to
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do and worth trying. Right.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm. I'm up for it.
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Tell me that's for like a large, like a jet license. Like, can you fly like a. You can fly like a small plane now, right?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, Like I've already started training in like a smaller propeller plane, but with like, it's pretty complicated, but like with like the. All the medical certificates, the one that you need to fly like passengers or for like higher or like the big jets, you have to get a first class or some type of. Like that. And with that comes like, all the. The strict mandatory for that.
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There are two or there are three pilots I can think of who have been. Have been on the podcast, who. Yeah, yeah. And two of them have like, like big hauler licenses, so.
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Right. Yeah. Right.
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Yeah. I mean, have you ever flown a small, like, craft yourself?
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Yeah. So as a, as a student pilot, you can only fly a, like a propeller plane or the plane that your instructors with, so. So, yeah, the only plane I flew is like a small Cessna, just pretty much the standard.
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How was it? Was it exhilarating or was it frightening the first time you did it?
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The first time, I actually like that. I, like, I fell in love with it. Like, I loved it. You know, I felt the. I liked it. And then like, right now I have about like 23 hours of total flight time.
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Okay.
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So I'm pretty familiar. And, you know, it's. I haven't had any problems with my blood sugars or anything like that when I was flying, which is good, and I hope it kind of stays that way. But, yeah, it's been a smooth process so far, and it's. I'm really, really excited. Just keep pushing for it.
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How many hours do you need in total to get like a, like that first license for like the small.
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So. Yeah, right. So for your private pilot's license, the minimum is 40. So, like after you get 40 hours, you can get it whenever you want. But it's just kind of when you're comfortable, right? Yeah, when you're comfortable and ready.
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So yeah so with that I, I as like type ones we I have to get that medical and without the medical you can't solo and you have to do a lot of soloing time like solo cross country time. So once I get that medical back from the faa, which can take that's the another part that could take three to four months or that could take up to two years.
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Wow.
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Just kind of depends on how you send it in and what everything looks good but yeah it's just kind of a guessing game at this point but it's okay. But it's yeah, it's all worth it though.
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So you're all in on this. There's no plan for college or you're not Looking. I mean, do you work otherwise? You have a job?
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Yeah, so I'm a golf caddy. So I caddy at a. A golf course, and, you know, I do that, and I love to be out there, so. Yeah, but, yeah, for sure. I mean, if it comes to the possibility, I would always keep my options open for, you know, new things, but as of right now, I'm all in.
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Nice. Or do you play golf? Or do you just, like, how do you get involved in caddying?
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Yeah, so I played golf my whole life. I. I kind of just played for fun. When I was younger, I played baseball all the way to my. In high school, and golf was also one of my passions, but I didn't play it competitively for school. I just, you know. Okay, the avid golfer who plays baseball.
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So. So tell me how you managed. Golfing's a lot of walking, a lot of heat, and baseball, so a ton of exertion. So how did. How did all that work? What kind of gear did you have? First of all, like, let's go back for half a second.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Do you wear a pump right now?
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No, I did not wear a pump. I used to wear a pump, but it was. I used to get really bad, like, skin reactions, and it would always pop in and out. I had bad rashes with the pump. I had the Omnipod and back in, like, kind of COVID time. And I. I guess it was one of the things that just didn't work out for me. And we tried it, but, yeah, ever since, I think maybe sixth grade, I've had a Dexcom. That's the G6 or G7. So. Yeah.
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So you were in a CGM, and you're. You're MDI. You use pens, I imagine.
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Yep, yep. Pens. Yep, yep.
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How long did you try the pump for? How old were you when you just was like, no, I'm gonna go to mdi and that's what I'm doing.
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Yeah. So the pump was about. Oh, it was about, like, six, seventh grade. So if I gotta remember seventh grade, maybe it was like 13, 14, if that's kind of around the ballpark. But, yeah. Yeah.
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You've played baseball. MDI on a pump and back MDI again.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah. And was a struggle because, you know, with the thing, it. Sometimes it. I would go really high for adrenaline or rush during baseball games, and you have that crash, and then it just be kind of rough to kind of
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tell, what's that look like? Then? How did most games go? Well, first of all, let's Just you're playing in high school or you're playing, like, travel or what were you doing?
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High school Travel? Yeah, both. Yeah.
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So you were playing. You're like, starting.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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What position did you play?
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Pretty much the whole outfield, and I played third base, so.
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Okay. And all around, pretty much.
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All right.
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So it's a lot of running and. Yeah, and like you said, the adrenaline too, right?
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Yep.
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You fairly competitive person. The games were meaningful to you?
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Oh, yeah, very. Yeah, very meaningful. Yeah, I'm very competitive. If it's, you know, a simple thing. I. I always just have. I always got the competitive fire me law.
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Yeah. I think you have to be the one to, like, jump into a. A plane and fly yourself. It's. It's a.
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Right, exactly.
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That's the thing where you feel like you can do it. Okay, so what was your management style like, so before a game, like. Because, I mean, I'm not wrong, right. High school, you get up in the morning, you go to school, you, school day, and then it's right to the gym to get changed, and out on a field or onto a bus.
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Right, Right. Yeah.
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So in high school, I. I kind of took my health for granted, to be honest. Like, I kind of talked about earlier in the podcast.
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Yeah.
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And it was. To be honest, I really didn't kind of care for it. Sometimes I wouldn't even check it. I would just kind of put it off to the side and just hope. Honestly, just hope I was all right. And then maybe I would check in. In there. But. Yeah, but like a normal day, I would just kind of. Just kind of get to the field or get to school and just kind of turn it off and then like, maybe check it once in a while and then do my dose for lunch and then. But yeah, I. I will have some accountability there. Yeah. It wasn't the best that I could have done.
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Jack. Why do you think, in hindsight, why do you think that was the. The path you took?
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Just because I. I just thought that, you know, diabetes and my health didn't matter along the road and that I could just kind of coast with it and be all right.
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Hold on. What do you think your blood sugars were during the day while you were at school and were playing School?
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I would. It. I like two hundreds, maybe even 300 sometimes. Playing. It's playing. I would say kind of the same thing around there. I mean, for the most part, it wasn't probably in range, but not too crazy high where it's, like, dangerous.
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Did it affect your athleticism? Did it make you run slower? Make you give you brain fog, anything like that?
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Yeah. Yeah, right, exactly. Like, there was times where, like, you know, especially in the morning or kind of later in the day, I kind of get that rain fog. Like, it's like I know what is causing this, and I'm like, crap. And. Or either if it's the flip side of something, if I go low, you know, you feel it. Like that hits you like a train and you feel it.
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Yeah.
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And it's like you just kind of lose that energy, lose that kind of kind of rush. Just.
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It lets the air out of you. Right?
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Yeah, Right. Yeah. And with. Yeah, exactly.
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When you're high and you're foggy and you know you're foggy because you're high. Why is the next step not, oh, I'll bring my blood sugar down. What stops that from happening?
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I think that was just my ego and my. Like, I can stay out here and ignore that mentality because there is times, like, for example, I'm training for. I did a half Ironman, which is a triathlon in September, and then I'm training for another one in July, and there's times where I'm working out, and I. I see my Dexcom, you know, rising with. And it's like, okay, I need to put this workout on pause and take care of what I need to do, because that's ultimately what matters most is, you know, staying healthy, you know, maintaining a healthy lifestyle rather than trying to push for an extra 30 minutes that could lead to something that's not what I want?
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Yeah. If you don't have an answer to this, it's fine. But.
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Yeah.
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Can you dig a little deeper into why that's hard to do? Like you said, your ego stopped you, which I. I think I understand what you.
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Yeah.
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What's the mechanism? Like, is it a feeling you had? Is it, like, thoughts you had in your head? Is there anything you can share with people about, like, what actually was happening to you when you were saying to yourself, my blood sugar is 220. I could easily give myself insulin for now and fix this, but I'm not going to.
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Yeah, I. I think it was, like, you just talked about the thought of, like, you know, I feel fine. And there's maybe a point where, like, you're on the edge and you can maybe push, but I feel like if you're ever in that kind of position, just, you know, tell a coach or tell a friend, like, hey, can I just maybe sit out, you know, if it's a inning or, you know, can I get subbed out on the bench for a second, you know, just to check it, make sure it's good, and then, you know, do a small correction or whatever you need to do that's fitting, and then. Then get yourself back out there. But I think that I should have really focused on not trying to push it, but check.
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Are you telling me that what you. What you were trying to avoid was other people knowing or a loss of playing time?
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Ye. Yeah. So probably other people knowing.
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Okay.
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Just kind of that, like, I banked on earlier of, like, the confidence to, you know, live with type one and just to kind of embody it.
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Yeah.
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Rather than trying to hide it, because that's. That's what happened a lot in My younger life, I tried to hide it and just let it go.
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So you don't feel that way now about other people knowing?
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No, no.
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If you could use your experience today with not caring if other people know, like, how would you talk to yourself? Like you talked about self talk earlier? How would you. How would you talk to a younger person or yourself at a younger age and explain to them what you know now? Like, is there a way to fast forward them to where you are? Do you think it's just a thing you had to live through?
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Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a way to fast forward. I mean, you just, I mean, if I'm talking to, you know, a kid who's kind of was in my same shoes, I would just kind of tell him that, you know, you know, we have this disease and it's a. Might call it a privilege, but, you know, we have to live with it and own it because, you know, it's something that we have a choice to take care of. And if we choose to be right, it could lead to really great things.
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Do you think calling it a disease would throw, throw off a 14 year old you or a 13 year old you? Because they're like, with the language around that slowed you down if someone came to you and said, hey, Jack, you have a disease, you have to take care of it.
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Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. But so the message though, remains the same, which is, yeah, we have a problem, but we also have an opportunity to do something about that problem.
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Exactly. Yep.
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That's a privilege.
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Yep. Yep.
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We can live exactly like everybody else if we do a couple of extra things.
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Yeah, right. Yeah. And it's, and it's. Yeah, it's awesome. Like, like I banked on the, like my ironman training. It's obviously a lot of long endurance efforts, you know, got to take in a lot of carbs, you know, to kind of get your glucose goes stable and, and it's, it's a tough challenge, but I've had times where I've seen myself, you know, with living with type 1 diabetes and I've been competing with people who do not have it, and I've been kind of right at their level, so it's pretty awesome to see that.
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Okay. All right, well, that's good. And you came to all this on your own? Yeah, contextually. How old's your mom?
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51.
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Okay. Oh, that's interesting. How old are your siblings?
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My brother is 26 and my sister is 23. Well, turns 23 soon.
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Oh, they're not that much Older than you. Okay. Okay.
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Yeah.
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So your parents got married a little early. They were younger. Yeah, I gotcha. All right. And they rolled you guys up and then. I see. I see. I know what happened. Okay, so.
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Yep.
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Okay. Because I was thinking, like, maybe your mom was like 10, 15 years older than I would assume for your age, but that's not. That's not the case. Okay.
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No.
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Because I'm trying to figure out where the wisdom comes from.
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Yeah, it's just a lot of it I've had to, you know, kind of learn on my own and, you know, take bits and pieces from, you know, my mentors in life that, you know, share the great message. And, you know, like, a lot of it's just kind of self belief and just knowing that kind of how I treat myself and how I, you know, talk to myself is really important.
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Where do you find mentorship at?
B
I find mentorship with, like, you know, old baseball coaches, you know, old, you know, kind of people that I like to surround myself with, like, even just a couple people that are a little older than me, you know, just to get some wisdom from them, get point of views from them and kind of bank on that.
A
And yeah, you put yourself around surrounded by people who you think of as aspirational or who have it together. How do you do that? Like, that. That's got to be hard, right? When you're picking from a, like the pool of, like, high school in your
B
town, it's just kind of who you surround yourself with will kind of set you up. So whether that's, you know, someone who's very educated with, you know, type 1 diabetes and that can kind of lean on you. And that would be awesome if there's someone, you know, like that or you know, someone who. Who just has really good experiences, you know, things to learn from. That's always what I kind of want to surround myself with.
A
And, Jack, don't let me put words in your mouth. Okay. But I feel like I'm getting this. So you got a lot of these ideas through, like, podcasts and books?
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, there's a lot of podcasts out there that, you know, if you find the right ones and you listen to them and you kind of really kind of dissect it, you can kind of implement those strategies in your life. Same with the books as well. There's a lot of great books out there.
A
You hear that, kids? Jack took his phone. Instead of learning how to do the Dougie, he figured out how to live his life. Yeah, about that. Jack's Jack's doing his own kind of Dougie.
B
Yeah, right.
A
No, so. Okay, because I keep. I keep thinking like you're going to tell me, like, you know, you know, like my mom sat me down and explained the world to me or my. But it's not. You went out on your own and like, is that you think it's a little bit because your parents are divorced? Right? Because my parents are divorced. It makes everybody a little busy. Right. They're not exactly helping you all the time.
B
Yeah. Right. And they do their best, but, you know, there is times where, you know, you kind of have to kind of take that self journey. Not like completely alone, but like you can rely on yourself for a little time being.
A
So at some point you bump into some content somewhere and you realize, I know more now than I did before I left or before I got here. So I'm gonna go find more stuff like this. You, you, by the way, you guys are gonna be like, the first generation of people are gonna have like some crazy success by listening to some guy on a podcast or watching some girl, like in a, you know, a talking head video or something like that. Explain, explain, I don't know, finance to you or something like that. Like, let me ask you a question. Do you know how much money you have to put away right now to make sure that you're financially okay when you're 60? Do you have an idea about that already or.
B
No. Me personally? No.
A
Okay, so you're not up to that yet because you're not making money like that yet.
B
No. No.
A
Okay. But when it comes time to learn about that, where do you think you'll go to learn about it?
B
Probably online.
A
Yeah.
B
Or something like a resource like that or someone, a trusted person.
A
You know, I try to listen to something thoughtful at least once a day. That's not right. Yeah, it's not me. I'm not listening to myself.
B
Right.
A
I actually, this morning I got up and I'm listening to a podcast about, I mean, about taxes and finance and stuff like that. And I'm listening to it and I'm thinking, oh, I know this. I know that this is interesting. And I actually found myself this morning, actually what I thought this morning was, I'm going to send this to both of my kids and tell them that I'm not buying them a Christmas present unless they listen to it.
B
Yep. Yeah.
A
And because there's so much. There's so much good information now I've also picked up a video and you start getting into like, this is bull. Like, there's nothing here.
B
Yeah, Right. It's like, am I just kind of looking at something or what am I learning here?
A
So when that's such a prevalent thing on YouTube, which is someone trying to sell you something by selling you the idea that they're successful and you can be successful, too, how do you. When you're 19, how do you figure out, like, this is just. This is a Ponzi scheme. Like, this is. This is a pyramid scheme here. He's. His success is telling me I can be successful. How do you sniff through that when you're a kid?
B
Yeah. I mean, you kind of just have to look at it from a. Kind of detach from a situation and just kind of look at it from, you know, different points of view is like, is he. You know, where did he come from? Or, you know, what was his step process? What was his journey? And kind of relate that to yours. And not everything you see on social media is 100% true, guaranteed. But some of it is useful and helpful. But, you know, it's just a lot of people come from different paths, whether that's just anything. So I think you just kind of have to pick and choose. Yeah. Right.
A
Yeah. Okay.
B
And you just have to kind of make a kind of choose, and you
A
do that with me. I don't know this for a fact, but I'm guessing, like, you're 19, and you're on a podcast about type 1 diabetes. You must listen to this, right? So.
B
Yeah. Yeah. And exactly like you were talking about earlier about, you know, like, coming across something like, you know, I made a decision, like, I want to maybe kind of learn about more type one kind of topics. So, you know, I went to the podcast app. I opened up that, or I just typed in type 1 diabetes, and your show came up first, and I started listening to it, and it honestly, like, really changed my thoughts on it and gave me different points of views from life, whether that's a parent, a kid, a grandfather, or someone in the business, like a nurse.
A
Yeah.
B
And it gave me a lot of different points of views on how people, you know, have overcame things with diabetes and, you know, kind of live with it. So it's awesome.
A
Well, I'm happy it was helpful for you.
B
Yep.
A
That's really great. And so from everything from your health to, like, I'm assuming when you learned how to what you're. The steps you're gonna have to take to get your pilot's license and everything in between, you were just like, you're just sourcing that from people sitting down and being willing to share their thing.
B
Yeah. And it's awesome. It's always good to hear what other people have to say and other people's journeys, because you never know. You might relate to it. Like, it's a crazy story. But my stepbrother is also type one, too.
A
On your mom's side or your dad's side?
B
My dad's side. So, yeah, that's. So, yeah, that's also a kind of crazy twist, too, because. So I had to kind of be a leader and show a fall example for him as well.
A
Did that. Oh, yeah. How old were you when he was diagnosed?
B
Let me see. Like, I think maybe 16. It was a while back, too. It's. It was kind of in the late. I think late middle school days or maybe early high school days. But, yeah, that was a twist and turn there.
A
How old were you when you started taking your care more seriously?
B
I would honestly say at the end of last year. So, like, 18. So it kind of. I was up and down with it. Like, it wasn't total out of control, but, you know, it could have done better. Like, my A1C at the time was like, you know, it was in the tens, and then it went to the eights, and now I've got it all the way down to a 6.3.
A
Oh, man. Jack, good for you, man. Congratulations.
B
Yeah, thank you. So it's just kind of like a. A slowly steady process of just trying to get better. Each visit, trying to do that.
A
Well, that's wonderful.
B
Yeah.
A
Because I was wondering at first, did, like, you get struck with a sudden, like, feeling that you had to be a. Like a role model for your stepbrother? But it wasn't that. You did try to help him, but. Yeah. Can I ask you now, in hindsight, when you were helping him, did you feel like a fraud?
B
Yeah. Yeah. I almost felt like kind of like. Yeah. Like that identity wasn't there, but I wanted to help, but I didn't have the identity in myself.
A
Right, right. He's looking for help. You're. You're gonna stand up and go, well, I have diabetes. I can explain this to him. But in the back of your head, you're like, well, my A1C is 10. I'm not really doing any of this stuff.
B
And it's like. And, like, it's like, in the back of my head, I know, like, I know I can be better. So you're right. Right, Exactly.
A
This is not like, I'm not coming down anybody, but no worries. What did Your mom, like, say to you with a 10A 1C and why was she not move or like, what was happening around that. That argument?
B
I imagine I got lectured a lot by the. My mom and the doctors there. They were on me pretty hard, but I just kind of had like a stubborn and kind of like, bad attitude about it. Like, I. I was kind of just in the wrong headspace. Like, I. Multiple visits went by and it was the same after another just kind of, again, it laid into me, like, kind of take it serious with all the effects. And then there were times where it did get serious.
A
But, yeah, what would have helped instead of the lecturing?
B
What would have helped Maybe the doctors or whoever was there kind of just giving me like a timeline down the road if this kind of keeps continuing, because that's what I kind of see myself now. That how I kind of took control of it and grabbed it when I had the chance to and take the opportunity because it's something that you do not want to have a bad relationship with a long time.
A
No, for sure. Jake, are you telling me that the lecturing helped you at some point they had to, like, bang through your thick head why this was important. Telling me. Are you telling me that the lecturing wasn't valuable and then you changed your mind? Like, be honest. Because, listen.
B
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
A
I would tell you that I don't think, like, shaming people about their health is a good idea. I don't imagine that that leads to any kind of change. Having said that, I have spoken to people who said I would not have done better for myself had someone not thrown the stark truth in my face about what was going to happen to me.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what I was trying to get at. Kind of just like the kind of, like, people kind of just tell me, like, it's kind of time to take some ownership, you know, be better. And that does come from, you know, like, people kind of raising the voice a little bit because that kind of gets you back and to the. To the level you need to be at.
A
I missed the 70s, Jack. I think yelling at people, yelling at people is underrated.
B
Yeah.
A
I guess my question here is, is when you were younger, was the focus so much on, like, oh, I have diabetes. I can do anything. It's okay that you didn't really understand the functionality of how to manage your insulin and the need for it and the reasons why you would want to do it. And then at some point, it got so frustrating for your parents that your mom just started Lecturing you. And it wasn't until someone actually, like. Did you not know during those lectures what the outcomes of poor control could be?
B
Exactly. Yeah, I just. Yeah. I just couldn't kind of get it in my mind, like, these people were helping me. They wanted the best for me, and that's truly what they wanted. And I just thought of it as, like. Like, oh, I can do it myself.
A
Why are these people up my ass? I'm gonna be okay.
B
Exactly. Yep, exactly. Like, I thought it'd always be okay.
A
All that led to was you kind of pushing it aside, not paying much attention to it.
B
Exactly. And just insecurities that came with it at that time.
A
Can you talk about that? What are those insecurities?
B
Yeah. So, like, insecurities were, like, kind of grown up or at the time, like, saying, I have type one. And then people always kind of misjudge it and ask, like, is that type 2? And that kind of always lingered in the back of my mind that people would think that there's always the mix up there sometimes. Because not everyone knows, like, not everyone's perfect. But there's always that, you know, like, insecurity of, you know, pulling out a shot in the middle of public or doing a dose or pulling the meter out or.
A
Yeah.
B
Having the. But. But honestly with that now, I just. I live with it. It's just kind of who I am, and I embrace it. And it's just like, I love it. I. I love kind of just taking control of my health now.
A
Did you learn that your outcomes and your health and your life are more important than what people think?
B
Yes.
A
Yeah.
B
Right, right.
A
I heard somebody say recently, is that thing I've said before, but it was weird to hear somebody else? I mean, you're an interesting situation, Jack. You listen to a lot of content like this. Times when you start hearing people, Right. And they're saying sort of same. The same things other people are saying, maybe different words or different, like, stories to explain them. But you go, oh, look, people I respect all think this thing.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, and. And I had a. I had that experience this morning when I listened to somebody whose opinion I respect on something else.
B
Yeah.
A
Say something that I already believe. Right, Right. Which is, you know, wait till you become an adult and you realize that 30, 40 years from now, all the people whose opinions I'm worried about will be dead.
B
Right.
A
And I might be too.
B
Right.
A
What is it we're worried about exactly? Like, why would I give away my life for this nebulous idea that other people don't agree with me. Meanwhile, you know what I mean? What do you care what they think?
B
Yeah. And it's just kind of like you can control what you can control and then what other people say and doesn't exist. Beliefs. Yeah, right.
A
It doesn't exist.
B
You can. Right.
A
I gave my kids this advice. Things ebb and flow through society. Things we care about or things we talk about or we act like are the most important thing in the world. You'll see as you get older, like, there'll be the year that. Oh, my God, don't say this about people. And then one day it just goes away.
B
Exactly.
A
And at this one point, it was a lot about, like, people were talking about bullying a lot. Yeah, there were. There were kids that were having, like, trouble, like, being bullied online now. Phones were just becoming more prevalent. And I understand how, like, a new thing pops up, but the only thing I told my kids was is that right now there could be 10 people out in the world literally bad mouthing you to somebody else. I'm like, right, do you know that that's happening? And they're like, no. And I'm like, so just because they wrote it down and now you have access to it doesn't actually change the reality of it. If you don't look, it's not happening.
B
Exactly.
A
Right. It doesn't matter what they think. And I'll tell you, like, making a podcast, it'll teach you very quickly, like, there are people, like, flat out don't like me, and then that's fair. Yeah, but, you know, if they're gonna spend their time and their energy in their circles, like, talking about me.
B
Right.
A
A, I'm never gonna hear about that, and B, I mean, I'm almost sad for what that means for them.
B
Right.
A
You know, like, I don't spend any time talking about them like, like, or. Or people who I disagree with or anything like that. It felt sad to me. So that's what I told my kids. I was like, look, it's sad that they're out there doing that. And the only reason you know about it is because this new tool that has a, you know, a screen on it, and you have access to where they put their thoughts. If you don't look, it doesn't exist.
B
Right. And it's just kind of like I said earlier, it's like, you know, they have the choice to do that, and then if they do it, you have the choice to respond in a way that is the correct way, and you can only influence it. You can't change the outcome, you can only maybe influence a little bit.
A
Think of all the things you could do with the time that it would take to get online and complain about another person.
B
It takes a lot of time and you probably do a lot of things right.
A
What are you accomplishing? Like those people are bad mouthing kids at school. Like, what do you accomplish? You explain to four other people you don't like Patty, like awesome. Like, okay, now what?
B
Just, Yep, just keep on moving.
A
I say it all the time. It doesn't, it doesn't stop everybody. And I, I don't imagine it ever will. But yeah, a bad review is almost better than a good review. People see a good review and they think like, ah, but when somebody's complaining about me, then people go to look and see what's happening. It's interesting how people's psyche works. So the people are out there like trying to knock you down, end up propping you up. And my daughter had that experience where someone was talking about somebody and instead of just believing it, one of the kids was like, you know what? That hasn't been my experience. Like, let me look at this further. Checked in with that person. Yeah. Realized they were good friends.
B
Point of view.
A
Yeah. And then, then they became friends from it. So a person that somebody, somebody was trying to poison another person instead of poisoning them, turned them into an ally of the person that they were trying to poison them against. And I'm like just, oh my God. All that time like Jack, you could learn to fly an airplane.
B
Exactly. And you know, I've been in the situation where, you know, I tell people I'm going to become a pilot and I tell them I mentioned I'm type 1 even before they like, can't you not? And they tell me immediately like that's not allowed. Like can't you not do that? And they kind of give me the doubt. But you know, I just kind of, I, I take it in and I understand where they're coming from but you know, I give them my input and then we mutually agree. And if it goes the way that I want it to. Good. If it doesn't, then you just have to accept it.
A
I'm pretty confident a man named John is listening to this right now. And he's a pilot. He flies big jets.
B
Oh yeah. That's awesome.
A
Yeah. And Petra has been on here. He's like one of the first type ones to, to get that one of those licenses.
B
Yeah. It's a long journey. But if you really love it, it's, it's all for it. It's. It's worth the wait.
A
How did you make the decision not to go to college?
B
So, yeah, so I ultimately just thought that if I just kind of focused on, you know, pilot, just can. Becoming a pilot, studying. And then I always thought that the medical process wasn't as, you know, structured as it was and had the weight. So I didn't apply because I thought, you know, I could just go in there, get my medical and you know, just kind of like walk right out. But it didn't end up like that, so I had to kind of face the new outcome and just, you know, I'm keep studying. And the good thing is you can still take like your written exams and you can still fly. So that's the good part of it. But you just can't proceed to the next step where you want to go. So. Okay, it's a lot of delay gratification there.
A
But there's no other thing in the world you'd like to do if like. I'm not saying you're not going to be a pilot.
B
No, for sure. Yeah.
A
I mean, I'm trying to get at like, at your age, like, you know, because listen, it's a long process to change the way people think. And 20, 20 years ago you start hearing about like, I don't know, is college really necessary? And then there's a big pushback, like, no, we should all be able to go to college. And like. And then it hurts the trades a little bit because everybody feels like they have to go to college now. Everybody's in this debt that they can't pay back.
B
Right.
A
But now I. I'm seeing the conversation sway in the other direction where people are like, look, I have access to all kinds of good information online and there's a thing I want to do. Excuse me. I think I can figure out my. Listen, I went to a. I went to a meeting with my son yesterday. Yeah, this is boring. I don't know like how much people care about. But like, my son is a coder and he's got an econ degree and I know some people who are. They do investing.
B
Right.
A
He wanted to go sit with them and just kind of pick their brains about stuff.
B
Yeah.
A
So I was able to set that up. But because I was the conduit, I went along. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah, right.
A
He didn't need me. But like, you know, I was there and sat in the back, listen to people talk. A little bit left on the way out. And one of the things that they talked about in the room. Was that what my son went to college for? I mean, he had an econ. My son has an economics degree with a mathematics minor. I think it's a quantitative economics degree with a mathematics minor. And the guy asked him, like, what made you do that? And Cole just said, I wanted to play baseball in college and I was good at math.
B
Yeah.
A
And. But then he started explaining how, like, he really is become more of a learner since he's gotten out of college and. And enjoys learning more than he ever did in school. Not 100% sure what his degree did for him, other than, like, you know, put a. Put a school on his resume so that somebody would look at his resume when he got out of college.
B
Right.
A
And told the guy, I think I've taught myself more in the last year and a half than I learned in college.
B
Right. Yeah. And there's always different points of view on that. Right?
A
Yeah. No kidding. And I mean, not for nothing, like, it's kind of for sure, kind of the same thing and kind of not. But in the last three weeks, just using the newest version of Claude.
B
Yeah.
A
I've completely recoded my website.
B
Really? Yeah.
A
That's the reason I didn't do it in the past is because, like, the. The cheapest bill I got from somebody when I, like, went out in the world, I was like, hey, I need a website. Needs to look a little better. They wanted 30 to $50,000 to make my website.
B
Wow.
A
And I was like, I'm just going to leave it like this.
B
Yeah.
A
And then suddenly, a few months ago, I realized I could do it myself. And I'm wondering what that's going to lead to for people like you. Like, what couldn't you decide to sit down today and learn about either through, you know, I don't know, some version of, you know, an AI YouTube video, somebody's podcast. Like, I think you could put together. I think that joke. And for sure, you know, Good Will Hunting is true. Now, you ever see Goodwill hunting?
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Love it.
A
He makes fun of that guy and he's like. He's like, I get. What does he say? Like, I got the same education as you did for, like, the cost of a library card or something like that.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had the bar scene.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You seem like that person to me.
B
Yeah. And like, you know, I've always, you know, I've always keep the options open. You know, if there's any opening. Life that. Something that I want to pursue that I Love as well. And it's open there. I'm not going to hold back on it because I have. I'm holding on to something. I'll take the risk and jump into that. Like, one thing that I. Oh, sorry. But no, no, the thing that I. I love too, is like, sports medicine or like anything as dog was involved with sports or the game of. Kind of like that. So, you know, that's always. I've always something thought before I wanted to become a pilot is maybe jump into, like, sports management, you know, or sports medicine or something that's kind of involved with that area.
A
I think it's possible that in 20 years I'm going to learn that you're, you know, a pilot that also does three other things. And. And I think, good for you, by the way, like, this time in your life through your 20s, this is the time to be flexible. Like, you're not.
B
Right.
A
You're not. You're not held down by. You don't. You don't own a dog. You're not married. You know, you don't own a house. You could decide to go somewhere else and learn something if you wanted to.
B
Right.
A
You can be flexible. You can lose. You can lose the money you have and regain it and, And. And rebound. It's. This is the time to figure something like this out.
B
Right. Yeah. And that's. With me is like, the choice. Even though I have type 1 diabetes, I choose to live the way I want to be, with freedom. Like, I mean, I do. I choose to sign up for these Iron Mans and take care of my health because it just matters to me. And that's something that I want to show to other people that, like, you can do whatever you want in your life and achieve your wildest dreams, but you can also live with yourself and be confident of what you have.
A
Talk about the. I cut you off and I'm sorry. Go ahead.
B
That's all good. No, no, no, no, no. How was it?
A
Okay. Okay.
B
Yep.
A
It's still an expensive thing to deal with diabetes, so, I mean, at the moment, I imagine you're on your mom's insurance and.
B
Right. And. Yeah. All that detail.
A
Take advantage of that, man. You got five more years, maybe six more years of that to go. Like, this is your time to really take a swing at something.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, to live.
B
Yeah. Just live.
A
I would say this, too. I mean, if you were my kid, I would tell you, like, you know, make sure the thing you're going after is viable. Like, your passion's one thing. Right. But Your passion needs to make some sort of an income for you because at some point you are going to need to take care of yourself, so.
B
Exactly right.
A
But the pilot's license, I mean, that's a obviously a viable job. You know, flying planes, you could absolutely make a living doing that brand.
B
It creates a. If you choose a lifestyle that you want with it, it could be one of the best jobs opinion based out there. Yeah, it's kind of.
A
You see the world a little bit and do this thing you really enjoy.
B
Right.
A
That's awesome, man. I wish you luck with that. I hope that goes the way you want it. Oh, you have all the opportunity you need. There's nothing holding you back.
B
Yep. And I've got, yeah, I've got everything. Everything is good. And I've had a couple mentors that, you know, kind of lead me along the way kind of already and help me out a lot, so.
A
So let me ask you a question. Do you date?
B
No, not. Not at the moment. Now.
A
And because you don't want to or because it's hard to find people or what's the situation?
B
I mean, I don't know. That's kind of a. Yeah, I just. I just could say I'm just really not kind of putting myself out there right now until after the summer.
A
But what'll happen after the summer?
B
Maybe I'll start to get back into it.
A
So this is a thing you've done and you're just not doing currently.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I, I previously dated someone and we went our separate ways. Kind of just like a mutual college thing. And then ever since I just kind of like the self journey. And then when I reopen that portal of life back, I will be willing to.
A
Okay, so you. So you're with somebody in high school?
B
Yeah.
A
Let me make sure I understand. She went off to college. He went off to college. I'm sorry, I don't know your sexual orientation. That's not the point of this. Like they went, went off to college and that person was like, hey, listen, we're going to be kind of far apart, like, maybe we should stop doing this. And you kind of focused on yourself after that.
B
Exactly. Yeah. Yep.
A
Heartbroken at all. Jake, when that happened or did it feel like, like, okay, that's a reasonable thing and maybe I don't love you that way. So it's okay, right?
B
Yeah, it was definitely 50. 50. Between that there was a little bit of, you know, kind of heartbroken, like, you know, sad. But then I just kind of realized like a lot of people go through the same thing that I went through with the separate college distance. So I just kind of had to, you know, own it and just kind of live my life.
A
And good for you.
B
Everything went. Everything worked well, and we went our mutual separate ways and everything's been perfect.
A
Once. This is a long time ago, I gave a friend a piece of advice they didn't take, and I know they probably regretted it, but there's. Sometimes you just gotta be by yourself.
B
Exactly.
A
And figure out what it is you want and what makes you happy. Right, Right. And if you jump from relationship to relationship all the time, you might just be filling a hole.
B
Right.
A
Then sometimes when you're filling that hole, you'll fill it with anything.
B
Right.
A
And maybe it's better to confront your. Confront yourself once in a while. Having said that, I worry about your generation and them not being as motivated by, you know, romantic stuff.
B
Right.
A
I would caution you against that. I would say go out there and find some people.
B
Exactly.
A
Make some mistakes. Have a good time. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah, yeah. You're totally right there.
A
But what happens after high school is like you're either stuck in a small pool of where you live right now. It's people who didn't go off to college or going to college locally or an app. Right.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
What do you think of those apps?
B
I've never used one, but is it
A
a thing you would consider?
B
Maybe not. I don't know. Might have to. But at the moment, probably not. Yeah.
A
I think it would be hard for me.
B
Yeah. Right. Because it's just. Can I. You know, because a lot of people in our age kind of meet off a phone or an app and some. Sometimes that goes well, sometimes it doesn't. I think the best scenario is to find someone, to meet someone real life and engage that way.
A
Yeah. I do my best in face to face.
B
Right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
A
Plus, then people either like you or they don't. They get a vibe pretty quickly, you know what I mean?
B
And then you can tell, rather than trying to waste your time, figure it out over the phone.
A
Yeah. I'm messaging with you for six, six weeks, and then we finally get together and you're like, oh, I didn't know you were that tall, or like. Or whatever. Like, you know, strikes people when they see you, like, visually for the first time.
B
Right, Exactly. Yep.
A
For me they'd be like, oh, my God, so handsome. I don't want to. I'll feel, I'll feel, I'll feel ugly next to this person.
B
I never leave.
A
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be the. I don't want to be the second prettiest person in this relationship.
B
Right, exactly.
A
Yeah. That's what would happen, Jack.
B
Right.
A
So.
B
Okay.
A
Well, I think what. So far, I think what we figured out is you're a bright person. You did well in school. Right.
B
Thank you. Yeah, yeah. I try my best.
A
Yeah. No, no, I can tell. Like, like, so you're a bright person. You're thoughtful, you're motivated, you're. I mean, obviously out there trying to learn things and figure stuff out. You're not scared of doing things. Is this how you've always been?
B
I mean, honestly. No, not really. It. It kind of just kind of came to me over the couple years or so of really just trying to become the person who I want to be and the life I want to live. Like, for example, I have a tattoo, and it means self mastery and self improvement. And if you just, you know, take care. Just use a diabetes example here. If, you know, if you take care of your health each day the best you can to your ability and you get better than the day before, it can lead to, you know, lowering your A1C to a number you never thought you could have, or, you know, showing getting rid of the brain fog and the symptoms that you always experience. So that's something that I kind of live my. Live my experience in life by is just slowly getting better each day.
A
And it just happened. You just grew into this.
B
Yeah. Yeah. It's just. I just decided I wanted to make a change, and I knew I was capable of controlling it a lot better, and I just decided to go for it.
A
There's no, like, light switch that you can point to that made that all start?
B
Tough question, to be honest. Yeah, I. I don't know. I just. It just kind of. It just clicked.
A
You woke up one day and you thought, what the am I doing?
B
Exactly. I'm like. I'm like, I know I can do better, but why am I not? So then I just took control of it, and here I am today, striving for things I never could have thought I would have done.
A
You know, to put that into a bottle, we could sell it a little.
B
Little.
A
Little, like, dab a jack behind your ears and. And get you moving.
B
Hey, yeah. Yeah.
A
No, no, man. You're young, right? Like, and I don't mean that pejoratively, but you're like. But yeah. Isn't that fascinating that you were on this path and then just through probably variables around You. That you're not even aware you were seeing or things you were hearing or whatnot, that just made you go, like, what am I doing? Like, I have to self correct here. And then. And then you did it.
B
Right? Right. And it's. I mean, when I, you know, I. Talking about the Iron Mans and triathlons, it's. When I did it, it was like, holy crap. I just went through that as a type 1 diabetic. And, you know, I felt at the end, but it's just, like, realized that, like, I can do this if I just, you know, take care of it and then I can inspire. My other friends aren't type ones, but, you know, they were pretty impressed with what I did, and, you know, they even started getting into the sport. It just kind of. Kind of makes me smile that, like, you know, I brought him into this and, you know, it's just cool to see how my life changed.
A
I don't know. Like, I feel like there's just. I feel like I'm not asking you the right. Like, you're doing a great job, don't get me wrong. But, like, I feel like the. I feel like I'm not doing a good job of cracking you open the whole way to find out what did this for you, but it's possible you just don't know.
B
Yeah. I mean, it's just honestly the answer. It's just like, just the choice, you know, just. Yeah, maybe there was a decision or a time. I just can't quite remember it, but there was just a choice that just to, you know, live with the confidence of being a type one and just taking ownership of it and knowing that if I take control of it, I can be whoever I want to be.
A
All right, let's reverse engineer this a little bit. Let's just focus on the diabetes for a second.
B
Yeah.
A
Just trying to get to it. Like, what got you to your better care? Like, is it me? Was it the podcast? Like, I know you made the decision. Decision to go look for it, but was it just being educated about something or.
B
Yeah, it was. There's two. It just kind of being educated about it and just kind of, you know, learning about it. And plus, like, you know, the, you know, the factors of, you know, not feeling great, being high all the time, being foggy, you know, just not having it control. And it really just hurt my health and mental health.
A
Sick and tired of being sick and tired. And then you.
B
Exactly.
A
I don't have the right tools to fix this. I went and found tools.
B
Yep.
A
For whatever Reason, like, jived well with how I talked about it. Derived what you needed, applied it in your. Applied it in your life.
B
Exactly. Yep. There it is.
A
You think you did that with, like, some of those other podcasts and that other content around motivation and. Yeah, and. And, you know, confidence.
B
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right.
A
That's it. Wow. So people out there were just like, you know, talking about, like, you got to take accountability for yourself. If you want success, you got to go for it. And that kind of stuff just stuck to you, Right?
B
Yeah. And, I mean, it's not. I mean, and you can always lean on others in your circle to, you know, help you. And if you ever need someone, just call someone you trust. And you never know what they might do for you, help you out.
A
You know that because you had good friends around you, because you felt supported by your family or because someone told you that's an okay thing to lean on.
B
I mean, I had great people around me, friends, peers, family members that cared for me. And that's something I always lean on when, you know, times are tough. I just talk to family or friend
A
or maybe good, solid base you had.
B
Yeah, exactly. And then if. If that doesn't do it, maybe go online or find some video or example and try to kind of work it out there. But. Yeah.
A
Do you know why I'm asking you all this?
B
Why?
A
I'm hoping that people listening who are parents realize that if they just put down a firm base like this, and it's built on trust and respect and love, and you have a lot of patience for people that maybe, even though it doesn't look good, if you've been set on the right path, even though you might be tripping through it at the moment, the possibility that you're going to come out on the other side better off is far greater when you have that firm foundation.
B
Right, exactly.
A
Than it is if you just yell at somebody. And by the way, education is everything. You need to know what you don't know so that you can make better decisions.
B
You know, establishing a good culture and having a good foundation can go a long way, especially if you have the right people around you.
A
I could use a little coach talk in there.
B
Yeah.
A
Was that from baseball?
B
Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
A
Did your baseball coaches talk about culture?
B
Oh, yeah. Big. Yep. Yep. Culture, I mean. Yep.
A
All that manager talk. We go about our business. We. We. I like the way he does this. Is he. He plays the game. Like, stuff like that. You're here for everybody, not yourself. Like that kind of stuff helps.
B
Yep.
A
Really does Yep. Well, so what did we learn? Basically, T shirt slogans are right, and if you live your life by them, you'll be fine.
B
Exactly. And you can have a little fun, but as long as there's balance there.
A
How much fun have we had, Jack?
B
A lot of fun.
A
Okay. Booze, drugs, sex. What have you been doing?
B
Zero.
A
Nothing at all. How do you get your fun then? Look at you. The whole world thinks that's what fun is. This is not fun. What is fun?
B
Yeah, just find it in things I love doing. Whether that's, you know, playing golf, being active in sports, playing the guitar, reading, playing video games. Just pretty much whatever I can. Just hanging around with friends, and that's kind of my thing of fun. I just kind of, kind of like to get it off the right way.
A
That's exactly how I feel. That's exactly how I feel.
B
Yep.
A
Yeah. I don't understand people who are bored. I don't know how, like, the day feels long to anybody.
B
Yeah.
A
I'm never without something I want to do.
B
And, yeah, I can't sit still. And that's one of my toxic traits.
A
If I could give a piece of advice around it. I think that passion comes sometimes from something you're good at and, and that it can be a. It can be a pitfall or, you know, a trap to say, well, like, oh, I, I, you know, I want to. I want to do the thing that I love. Like, some people are. Have really boring jobs and they're great at them, Right. And then they, and then they're passionate about that, and then that builds up some security for them and then they go build a life. Otherwise you're all not going to be like. Like everyone's not going to be an actor or a singer or something like that.
B
Right.
A
Like, you know what I mean?
B
Exactly. Right.
A
Your passion doesn't have to be your hobby.
B
Exactly.
A
I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So you're not bored ever, right?
B
Sometimes. I mean, I get bored when I'm injured. That's the only time I get bored because I can't move.
A
But nah, other than that. Like, there's always something for you to do. Like, what are you gonna do the rest of the day?
B
Actually gonna go on a run after this and probably study and maybe go to the driving range.
A
Yeah. And at some point you'll. You'll pick up a guitar later and strum on a little bit and like, the whole thing. Right.
B
And then maybe I'll go to bed if I feel like it.
A
Hey, you guys stay up late. Your. Your Generation, Right? What time you go to bed usually?
B
I. I mean, I. I try to get the best sleep if I can. I usually try to go to bed between like 10 and 11.
A
Look at you.
B
I don't know if it's something with diabetes, but I always wake up in the morning at the same time. I don't know what. I don't know the science behind that, but I wake up like, my body cannot sleep in past 8:00am okay.
A
Yeah. Well, listen. I mean, sleep's incredibly important. Like, I just. I know, I know that some people get overwhelmed with the idea that there's so much content or information there's available right now. Some people stay up very late, like, listening to things. I fall into that trap sometimes. Like, I listened to something last night I should have been asleep, and I was interested in it, and I thought, oh, I want to absorb this before I. Before I go to bed. Yeah. Yeah. No kidding.
B
Yeah. We're human. It happens.
A
Yeah. I wish you were my son. You seem. You seem pretty perfect.
B
Well, thank you. That means a lot.
A
I think your parents must be incredibly proud. Like, they must hear you and think, like, look at. Look what we did.
B
Yeah, it's pretty cool to call them my parents because they're awesome.
A
How much of your success so far do you think comes from the fact that your life wasn't easy? Right? You got diabetes at a young age. Your parents are divorced already. I'm joking with you that you might have been an oops baby, but it sounds more like you were like a maybe if we had one more baby, we won't get divorced baby. So, like, and that, you know, all that you're a bright person. Like. Yeah, so, like, yeah, that kind of like those trials and tribulations, like, can you see their value yet or do they just seem like trouble to you?
B
They are 100 the most important things that happen. Because everything in life happens for a reason. And it just kind of makes you stronger. Whether that's, you know, spend a night in the er, like, talked about a couple days ago, I actually was very sick, like food poisoning. I had to go to the ER and just had a bad day. And then, you know, it's just. It's just things like a long life journey. There's always bumps and roadblocks, but, yeah, you'll get through it. It just builds character and strength, really. Every. Every mishap, every wrong step in the road.
A
You have to embrace it too.
B
Exactly. Embrace it. And just try the best to inspire others on your stories. Because after you're done. You get through them. All you can do is really laugh and just be like, hey, I went through that.
A
I was watching this thing where kind of a roundtable of, like, fairly successful people, as they talk about their background, you realize that not one of them said, oh, my parents were wealthy.
B
Right.
A
They sent me to a good school, and I just. I followed my passion. And here I like it was. Every one of them had multiple twists and turns. Like, my parents were angry at me because I did this, or I messed up and, you know, caused myself a problem. I was broke. My, you know, my family was a mess, like, you know, the whole day. I think there's a lot to learn from this stuff if it doesn't knock you over. Fair. Fair enough, Jack. You know what I mean? But. But if you can wobble back up again and keep going.
B
Yeah, and that's. Yeah, that's 100 true. Because, yeah, that's a lot of things I deal with in my life. It's just, I get through it, and I have the strength to get through. And then I'm like, hey, I made it. We're good.
A
Listen to me. I am going to do my best to keep this podcast going so that you can call me back in five years and do this again.
B
Awesome. Yeah, I would. Honestly, I would be honored.
A
Yeah, I would love to know where you are in five years.
B
Yeah, you never know.
A
Would you consider that if I was around?
B
Yeah, I would 100 consider it. Yeah. I'm already on board.
A
Thank you. My last question for you, and then I'm going to make sure you don't have anything else you want to say, but.
B
Yep.
A
How do you avoid drugs and alcohol?
B
Being 19, I honestly just don't have a. A motive to do them. I just. I know it can affect now that seeing what I see it does to other people, and especially with Type one, I just. I don't want to play around with something like that that could lead to something that is not good. And I just kind of. I just kind of take a step back and just kind of look at it like, is this going to benefit me or is it just going to make it worse?
A
Have you considered it and then thought your way through it and not done it?
B
No, I've really never. To be honest, like, I've never thought of ever doing it.
A
Why do you think that you don't need to feel numb when other people are numbing themselves?
B
I just feel like I have really good internal, you know, spiritual talk and that I can just resolve it through my Own then rather than relying on something that isn't worth it in the long run or just for a short term kick.
A
Oh, wow. Are you a religious person?
B
A little bit, yeah. Yeah, I've been starting to.
A
You're looking into religion too? Not. This is not a thing your parents brought to you. It's a thing you're looking into on your own.
B
Yeah, we were raised Catholic, but I've been get really trying to get into Christianity.
A
Okay, well.
B
Yep.
A
Listen, man, you're on your way. Just watch out for those scumbags on YouTube or just selling you the idea that like, you know, you can be successful like me, but you realize the only thing they're successful at is telling you that you could be successful. Okay, yeah. Avoid that.
B
Stay away from the. Yeah, the get rich in 10 minutes.
A
Would you want passive income, Jack? Huh? Would you like some passive income? Shut up. Your passive income is getting me to watch this video where you say, what? I like passive income, you son of a bitch.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how it works.
A
I know. I watch it. It made me so mad. I. I did an episode with a therapist about it. I was like, please help me explain to people that they're being taken advantage of by some of these YouTubers who are just keeping you watching, telling you everything's going to be okay. I mean, not fixing anything for you or giving you any valid ways out of it.
B
Right.
A
Yeah. There's a guy I have in mind, such a punchable face. I think if I ever met him in person, but I would look at him and I go, you're a scumbag. Like, you know, just dressing your life up and making everybody feel like they could have what you have. And the only thing you're doing is teasing people along and telling them that
B
they can have things given because we need uplifting people.
A
And then sharing the dumbest common sense with them as if it's like genius. You see that out in the YouTube, right? You know what I'm talking about.
B
Oh, yeah. 100. I mean, well, it's so easy nowadays. All you do is open an app and click one button and scroll for two hours.
A
Yeah. And take up your. It really does kill your time if you don't do it.
B
Well, hey, I'm guilty, but I try to eliminate it sometimes.
A
I hear you. Good for you. All right, well, Jack, is there anything that you want to talk about that I have not brought up?
B
No, I think that's amazing. I really appreciate for having me on and kind of talking my story and hope it reached out to some people. And yeah, that's.
A
Well, I bet you. I bet you will. I appreciate your time. Hold on one second for me. Okay?
B
Yep.
A
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Episode #1879: Jack Be Nimble
Date: June 17, 2026
Host: Scott Benner
Guest: Jack (19-year-old living with T1D from Ohio)
This episode centers around Jack, a 19-year-old from Ohio living with Type 1 Diabetes since age nine. Jack shares his journey from early diagnosis, adolescent struggles with self-management, and growing into a mindset of self-mastery and confidence. The discussion delves into practical diabetes management, athletics, mental health, personal growth, and how exposure to books, podcasts, and positive mentorship can lead to profound changes in living with chronic illness. Throughout, Jack offers thoughtful, optimistic advice for young people and families navigating type 1 diabetes.
Initial Management: Started with injections and basic finger-stick monitoring ([07:36]). CGM (Dexcom) added in middle school; tried but didn’t stick with the pump due to skin reactions ([17:45]).
Poor Self-Care in High School:
Quote:
“In high school, I kind of took my health for granted, to be honest. Sometimes I wouldn't even check it. I would just kind of put it off to the side and just hope. Honestly, just hope I was all right.” – Jack ([21:20])
Insecurity & Hiding Diabetes:
Turning Point:
Quote:
“There's times where I'm working out, and I see my Dexcom rising … I need to put this workout on pause and take care of what I need to do, because that's ultimately what matters most.” ([23:20])
Aviation: Passion for flight; working towards private pilot’s license.
Quote:
“A lot of it I've had to … learn on my own and … take bits and pieces from my mentors in life that share the great message.” ([27:58])
Foundation from Family & Mentors:
Emotional Honesty:
Acceptance & Ownership:
Quote:
On Turning Points:
On Ownership and Confidence:
On Seeking Growth:
On Social Judgement:
On Resilience:
Final Message:
Jack’s story is a testament to patient growth, self-discovery, and the practical power of community and education in thriving with type 1 diabetes. His journey offers hope, actionable advice, and proof that even through uncertainty, living boldly with insulin—and with life—is more than possible.