#1890 Wiener Roast

Summary

Juicebox Podcast | Episode #1890: "Wiener Roast"

Date: June 30, 2026 | Host: Scott Benner
Guests: Lana (mom of a child with T1D and celiac) & Dana

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the real-life challenges and strategies of managing type 1 diabetes (T1D) and celiac disease in a young child, as told by Lana, a Canadian mom. The hosts discuss diagnosis stories, tech hurdles, the mental and emotional load of chronic disease, insulin management, and broader issues like parental self-care and autoimmune comorbidities. The tone is candid, humorous, and often self-deprecating, with characteristic Juicebox Podcast warmth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Technical Difficulties and Family Life (00:18–04:18)

• The episode opens with friendly banter and Lana’s struggle with technology—a recurring theme that lightens the mood and sets the stage for a discussion on the stresses and learning curves faced by many D-parents.
• Quote:

  "If all of you could have heard the last 18 minutes of Lana trying to get set up here, the state would come and take her children from her immediately..." —Dana (02:44)

2. Diagnosis Stories: Celiac and Type 1 Diabetes (04:35–12:38)

• Lana recounts Gabriel's (her son, now eight) initial symptoms of celiac disease—fatigue, weight loss, irritability—and the path to diagnosis through a family doctor.
• Gabriel’s IGA level was "over 600" (reference: >20 suggests celiac).
• The second diagnosis (T1D) came four months later during routine celiac follow-up bloodwork. Diagnosis essentially happened by accident, which likely saved Gabriel from a more critical onset.
• Quote:

  "We just actually had a wiener roast. Cause he was diagnosed, so... We went in for blood work, follow up with celiac. They called us right back that same day saying, 'Okay, your son definitely has type 1 diabetes.'" —Lana (11:37)

• Lana describes the shock:

  "I just had no idea, like, what this all entailed. I just knew it wasn't good news." (12:14)

3. Processing Diagnosis and Learning to Cope (14:42–23:05)

• The emotional burden and the onslaught of new information: counting carbs, dosing insulin, enduring brain fog, and significant sleep deprivation.
• First two years managed on MDI (multiple daily injections) — largely for simplicity and to avoid more tech burden while still dealing with celiac restrictions.
• Sleep improves with the pump, but the memories of initial overwhelming days linger.

4. Diabetes Management & Technology Journey (25:55–47:59)

• Transition from MDI to pump after two years, eventually moving to Omnipod Dash with an Android APS (DIY closed-loop system).
• Low-carb/keto diet originally, but later reintroduced carbs for weight gain and quality of life.
• School care: Canadian context—no school nurses, so education assistants (EAs) help with injections.
• Challenges with the algorithm: Compression lows on the CGM lead to system confusion and mistimed insulin dosing.
  • Quote:

    "He is so sensitive to insulin… at night… he has a false low, it turns off the insulin, because it thinks it's going low. Then you roll him over... it goes back up, and then it's like, 'Oh, let's give him insulin.' It's like, no, I don't want you to give him insulin." —Lana (44:10)

5. Navigating Autoimmunity in the Family (28:05–35:05)

• Extensive family history: Lana is adopted but learns later that her birth mother had T1D; husband's family includes T1D and MS.
• Lana discusses her endometriosis diagnosis and subsequent hysterectomy, highlighting the overlap and uncertainty around autoimmune risk.
• The conversation segues into symptoms Lana’s experienced: brain fog, hair loss, weight gain, fatigue, and possible anemia or thyroid dysfunction.

6. Parental Self-Care and Medical Advocacy (37:19–47:59)

• Scott and Dana encourage Lana to advocate for further iron and thyroid testing given her symptoms.
• Canadian healthcare: Generally positive experience in Saskatchewan, although access times can vary.
• Discussion of the emotional weights mothers carry and the importance of seeking help for their own health.
• Quote:

  "You need to be okay, too. And, you know, the worse it gets for you, the worse it's gonna get for everybody." —Dana (37:50)

7. Everyday Life & Practical Adaptations (49:35–51:06)

• Managing celiac + T1D at home: two toasters, separate storage, double of many kitchen items (“two of so many things”).
• School and daily routines: Gabriel uses a phone and smartwatch to message Lana about blood sugars—growing self-management.
  • Quote:

    "He has a phone and a watch... if his alarm goes off, he'll be like, 'Okay, I'm having a tab because my alarm went off.'" —Lana (51:35)

• Lana is the primary diabetes manager, but her husband handles tech and DIY builds—team effort in the household.

8. Broader Reflections: Anxiety, Advocacy, and Acceptance (53:07–75:12)

• Lana describes the first year post-diagnosis as “pretty dark,” with heightened anxiety given her family’s history (“not the best information given to me about other type ones in my life”).
• Open discussion of adoption, family structure, and how trauma/loss colors self-perception.
• Hashimoto's, anemia, and the overlap between chronic conditions, mental health, and the importance of regular follow-up and advocating for comprehensive bloodwork.
• Quote:

  "Anxiety and anemia, I think, go hand in hand. Anemia may not cause anxiety in the emotional sense, but it can create body sensations that your brain interprets as danger..." —Dana (73:12)

• The episode encourages parental self-advocacy for physical and mental health.

9. Closing: Personal Growth, Community, and Lana's Business (67:15–75:12)

• Lana runs a children’s clothing business ("Gabe and Olive"), mostly in Saskatchewan, selling at markets and custom orders. Website: gabeandolive.ca
• Importance of following up on one’s own healthcare and Scott’s request for listeners to “email me if you actually get more iron!”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Segment | Speaker | Quote | |-------------|---------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:44 | Dana | "If all of you could have heard the last 18 minutes of Lana trying to get set up..." | | 11:37 | Lana | "We just actually had a wiener roast...They called...your son definitely has type 1 diabetes." | | 21:42 | Lana | "[They said] everything he eats needs to be accounted for, I just lost it and just started bawling." | | 44:10 | Lana | "He is so sensitive to insulin… at night...has a false low...[algorithm] starts to bolus." | | 37:50 | Dana | "You need to be okay, too. And, you know, the worse it gets for you, the worse it's gonna get for everybody." | | 73:12 | Dana | "Anxiety and anemia, I think, go hand in hand..." | | 51:35 | Lana | "He has a phone and a watch...if his alarm goes off, he'll be like, 'Okay, I'm having a tab...'" | | 11:03 | Both | (Recollecting "Choose Your Own Adventure" books—injecting levity and nostalgia.) | | 53:18 | Lana | "The first year was...pretty dark. I feel like I haven't had the best information given to me about other type ones in my life..." |

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Important Timestamps

• 00:18–04:18: Technical setup/comedy, family introductions
• 04:35–11:37: Celiac and T1D diagnostic journey; early symptoms and family reactions
• 12:38–15:09: Initial coping, discovering what T1D means for the family
• 16:00–23:05: Emotional impact on parents (sleep, brain fog), MDI management
• 25:55–28:05: Transition to pump, rationale, and experience
• 34:46–35:53: Endometriosis, surgery, hysterectomy, and overlapping autoimmune risks
• 37:19–42:03: Canadian healthcare reflections, advocating for bloodwork and self-care
• 44:10–47:59: Tech challenges (compression lows, algorithm quirks), pump/APS nuances
• 49:35–51:52: Home management, kitchen logistics, technology for child’s self-care
• 53:07–59:44: Genetic/family background, “adoption papers” story, mental health reflections
• 67:15–72:09: Lana’s children's clothing business
• 73:12–75:12: Anemia, anxiety, and wrap-up

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Blends warmth, humor, and honesty. The conversation is meandering but intimate—the kind that connects listeners through relatable struggle and camaraderie.
• Key themes:
  • The unpredictability and mental load of chronic childhood illness
  • The importance of emotional realism—it's normal for diagnosis to feel overwhelming
  • Tech is both empowering and daunting—do only what your family is ready for
  • Parental health (mental and physical) is vital—don’t neglect your own needs
  • Teamwork within families makes a meaningful difference
  • Clinical vigilance: anemia, thyroid issues, and other comorbidities should not be overlooked

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Resources Mentioned

• gabeandolive.ca: Lana's children’s clothing business (Canada only)
• Community/education: Juicebox Podcast’s “Bold Beginnings” series
• ABLE now: Tax-advantaged savings accounts for individuals with disabilities (including T1D)
• Contour Next Gen Meter: Scott’s recommended BG meter
• Eversense 365 CGM: One-year implantable CGM

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This summary aims to serve both as a refresh for listeners and a thorough, accessible primer for those who haven’t yet heard the episode.

Transcript

[Scott]

Friends, we're all back together for the next episode of the Juice Box Podcast. Welcome.

[Dana]

Hold on a second. Okay. Just introduce yourself real quick so we can keep talking.

[Lana]

Okay. Hi, I'm Lana, wife and mother to two. One being type one and celiac. Yeah.

[Scott]

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[Dana]

If all of you could have heard the last 18 minutes of Lana trying to get set up here, the state would come and take her children from her immediately and they would say, it's not my fault.

[Lana]

I swear.

[Dana]

They would say, she, she. She displays no ability to do the simplest things on her cell phone. I think we have to come take those kids. So let's talk people out of that belief. Okay?

[Lana]

Okay. To be fair, to be fair, we had to do something different because of the AAP system that we use because it blocks Something. I don't know.

[Dana]

So I don't even care. It's fantastic. We should have recorded the last 18 minutes and then ended the podcast. It would have been perfect. People would have been like, oh, like, it would have been like a little nugget that made them feel better about themselves for the day. They would have spent the whole day going, you know what? It's not going perfectly, but imagine how it's going for Lana right now. Does your whole life go this way, or is this just a technology thing, or what's going on?

[Lana]

This is definitely a technology thing.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

Okay.

[Dana]

Well, that'll be interesting when we get to the insulin pump stuff. Tell me how long.

[Lana]

Oh, yeah, my husband has to do that.

[Dana]

Your husband has to do that stuff? Yeah, my wife says to me. She's like, it's. You do it because you do it. It's not because I can't. And I go, okay,

[Lana]

no, I wouldn't say that. He. He set up the aaps all his own. And I was watching behind, and I'm like, I have no idea how you're doing this right now. And he's like, you could do it. I'm like, seriously? I don't think so.

[Dana]

Is that what you said?

[Lana]

Not at all.

[Dana]

You weren't thinking, oh, I can never leave this guy now. Damn it. I was.

[Lana]

Yeah, he. We're. We're stuck.

[Dana]

We're stuck together now. I mean, like, he knows all this. God, what else does he know? What else is happening behind my back that I don't realize is happening? So tell me about. How old are your children?

[Lana]

Gabriel? He is eight. He's the one. Celiac and type one. And then Olive is seven.

[Dana]

Very nice. And how long have you. But guys been married?

[Lana]

Actually, 10 years this July.

[Dana]

Oh, actually, you just did that math in your head just now, didn't you? You were like, oh, my God, I think it's been 10 years. Does that feel like a long time?

[Lana]

No, I just. 10 years?

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

I mean, I haven't had relationships last really more than a year or two. So.

[Dana]

Yeah, like, that's how you're measuring it. How old are you?

[Lana]

I'm 41.

[Dana]

41. So when you were 31, you were like, this is not going to work, but I'll marry this guy and see what happens anyway.

[Lana]

And then pretty much.

[Dana]

And then two years later, your kid can't eat bread and gets diabetes or what happened there?

[Lana]

Yeah, so. Well, it wasn't two years. It was a little longer than that. But, yeah, he was okay. Some of the story about a celiac diagnosis was kind of like he was losing weight, but we didn't really notice it as much. It was more. So my mom and my family were over there one time and they were just kind of like, he seems to be a little bit thinner. Like, they just kind of mentioned it to me. Not in front of him, but yeah. So I thought, okay. There's been other weird things going on. Like, we'd go for walks and he'd be complaining about how tired he was. And John, like, my husband had to carry him back a few times. And I'm like, this is so weird. Like, what is going on? So we finally. I got him in with our. My family doctor, and she was kind of like, okay, all these symptoms kind of could sound like celiac, but let's get his blood work done. So we went and had his blood work done, and I came back like, crazy high. Like, I think it's like an IGA number. Is what they told you celiac.

[Dana]

Okay. Do you remember what it was anyways?

[Lana]

Yeah, it was over 600. So I remember the doctor saying, like, if it's over 20, he's potentially celiac. And we're like, oh, okay, well, he's definitely celiac. So we actually didn't even have to do the. The invasive biopsy. They're just kind of like, we can definitely just. Just diagnose him with such a high number like that.

[Dana]

Hey, are you Canadian?

[Lana]

That was kind of. But are you Canadian, right? I am.

[Dana]

Oh.

[Scott]

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[Dana]

I didn't realize. I wouldn't have made funny about the technology thing if I knew you were Canadian.

[Scott]

You can't help it.

[Dana]

I didn't realize that. I'm so sorry. I take the whole thing back.

[Lana]

Why do Canadians have like.

[Dana]

You're doing the best, Lana. You're doing the best you can, that's all. You live in a frozen tundra.

[Lana]

I didn't know we can do right.

[Dana]

Oh, my gosh. I mean, geez, with all the polar bears and everything, how are you even existing?

[Lana]

So, okay, we still have snow.

[Dana]

That's what I'm saying. You're at a disadvantage. I didn't realize it. I. I didn't hear it until I heard you say. You said something, and I was like, oh, she's Canadian. I could hear it in your voice.

[Lana]

Really? Like my accent or something?

[Dana]

Immediately, Yeah, I. I knew five minutes ago. I just didn't want to break up your story.

[Lana]

Oh, okay.

[Dana]

I forget what you said, but you used the word and I was like, oh, I didn't know she was Canadian. That's what I thought in my head. That's nice. But now I can't blame you for all this stuff. Like, you guys are probably. You probably like, a crank generator powering your house and everything, right?

[Lana]

I mean, you're pretty close.

[Dana]

I'm pretty close. If something goes wrong, the Mounties come or. How is it policed exactly?

[Lana]

Well, I mean, there is rcmp. Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

[Dana]

Oh, my God. You're bringing me back to the RCMP Twitter feed. That is so fant. I don't want to start talking about it again. But it's just. It's just a list of stabbings, basically, that are happening. It's like.

[Lana]

Yeah, there is actually a lot.

[Dana]

The RCMP was. Was called out to a bar and, like, you know, Saskatchewan, where three men stabbed each other for. No, like, it's just. This is a funny. Anyway, if you guys can find it. It's hilarious. Not, not, not funny that people get stabbed. It's just. You get. No, you get my point. No, yeah. So definitely celiac. How old is he when that's happening?

[Lana]

That was when he was five. He was diagnosed at five.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

So, yeah, it was. So we went in, had the whole, like, okay, you gotta eat gluten free now and change out your. I don't know, Like, I guess we have two toasters now. One for gluten and one for non gluten. So we do that. And so then we had to go. They told us to go back for more blood work in about three to four months because they wanted to see if going gluten free would obviously bring down his numbers. Yeah, um. So, yeah, we went in. We were supposed to go three months, and I think we waited, like, four or five months, which ended up being probably a. I don't know. Why can't I think of the word?

[Dana]

Oh, I don't know. But I'm delighted listening to you try to figure it out. A mistake.

[Lana]

Such brain talk.

[Dana]

A misstep.

[Scott]

A.

[Dana]

A lucky thing because.

[Lana]

A lucky thing because I feel like it's.

[Dana]

What. You ever see those books where you get to choose your own story? Yeah, that's what I feel like I'm doing right now.

[Lana]

I loved those books.

[Dana]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We used to have them on records. Do you ever have, like, a storybook that had a record with it? You'd play like a. You're not old.

[Lana]

Yeah, yeah, I was. I'm just old enough, I feel.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

Oh. Anyway, for those, we have a record player now.

[Dana]

But anyways, I guess it was lucky because when you went back, he already had diabetes symptoms, and they caught it then. But he wouldn't have had it two months before if you would have gone back in three months.

[Lana]

Precisely. Yes.

[Dana]

I've been doing this for so long, I already know your story.

[Lana]

Um, okay, well, go ahead.

[Dana]

Well, okay, hold on a second. Your husband couldn't believe it. He said, no, no way. And you were like, oh, my God, he's got diabetes. I called my mom and. No, I'm just kidding.

[Lana]

Go. No, it wasn't. It. Um. But I can remember exactly where we were and everything. It was just. We had. Just actually had a wiener roast. Cause he was diagnosed, so. Yeah, he was diagnosed September 18th. And so we were sitting around, it was on a Sunday, diagnosed, and we got. We went in for blood work. That's the day we went in for blood work to follow up with celiac. They called us right back that same day saying, like, okay, your son definitely has type 1 diabetes. And I remember sitting there being like, okay, I know this is not good, but I didn't know how bad it was.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

Because you hear that and you just. I just had no idea, like, what this all entailed. I just knew it wasn't good news.

[Dana]

Well, talk about not good news. People who really love the podcast just now thought, why did she say wiener roast in the first 10 minutes? That could have been the title if she would have just saved that for a little longer. What a great. What a great episode to pop up in your feed tomorrow. Wiener Roast.

[Lana]

Is that the name of the.

[Dana]

This might be the. It could be. No, you said wiener roast, and I'm Thinking maybe that's a great title for your episode, but I don't know. I wish people who really listen know I like the titles that come up later because I want you to keep listening to figure out why the hell it's called Wiener Roast. But if you give it up in the first eight. Yeah, if you give it up in the first eight minutes, it's. It's too easy. Don't worry, I have high, high confidence you're going to say something else. So I think we're going to be okay. Probably. I can't wait till we find out. Like, you know, the celiac came aso. We just started eating whale blubber.

[Lana]

I don't know, high protein.

[Dana]

I'm sorry. I don't know what's wrong with me. I had a long day. Actually, I do know what's wrong, but that's not the point.

[Scott]

Okay?

[Lana]

I feel like the whole Miss, like, technology thing totally threw me off. I felt so prepared, and now I'm

[Dana]

just like, oh, no, no, it's my Lana. Listen, I had to leave the house like an adult this morning very early, and I'm discombobulated. I have been living a pampered life for so long. I just want everybody to know that I'm aware of that. That my. My son and I had to go into a meeting this morning. We had to be there at nine. It was like an hour drive. So I'm like popping out of bed at like, you know, 6:45, getting in the shower, and I'm like, what do people do this? I'm just like, whatever. This is horrible. I said to my wife on the phone, I was like, can you imagine if I do this every day? She's like. She's like, I do. And I was like. I was like, oh, you set your life up wrong. I was like, this is terrible. So by the middle of the afternoon, I was like, sleepy. I was like, what's happening to me?

[Lana]

Oh, yeah, that happens to me too, because I'm at home as well.

[Dana]

Yeah. Oh, and yeah, anyway, it's my fault. I'm discombobulated today. But that. That's neither here nor there. But I'll. I'll take my bad reviews to heart and just get to the point. So. There's so much chit chat. Thanks. It's a podcast.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

It's not a TED Talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm not supposed to just stand up and blurt everything out and then it ends and you go, right on. But nevertheless.

[Lana]

Well, my husband was trying to Tell me how you know. Just think of it as like a fireside chat. Oh, yeah, I should turn our fireplace on.

[Dana]

He's right. And it's all you're doing is you're just sitting and talking to people and how it comes out is how it comes out. So, yeah, okay, so he's got celiac now he's got type one. You're not really sure what all that means. What's the process of education like? And what kind of. What's the start you get with technology or insulin, et cetera?

[Lana]

So, yeah, they're telling me that I think it was the endo on was that called? And they're like, is he okay? Because I think his number was 35, which is. I don't know what that is in

[Dana]

you keep talking, I'll tell you.

[Lana]

I think it's like six or seven. 800 probably.

[Scott]

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[Lana]

So, yeah, and he's like, the doctor is like, is he okay? I'm like, yeah, just had a weird roast. He's running around, he seems fine. They're like, okay, well I guess if you're okay with bringing him in tomorrow morning then we could just do that. I was like, sure. Like they didn't seem too concerned. And I was like, is there anything that I should or should not do? And they're like, well just don't like give them pop or juice or anything sweet. I was like, noted. Okay.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

So went, went to bed normal. I don't know. I didn't really know what to be, you know, like worried about yet. And so went in the next morning. And so that's when we started with the education. So there's like, there's a peds hospital which they were pretty, pretty good. Like it. I like how it was just like this is his number, he's type one. It was just. That was basically how he was diagnosed and just like threw us into the wolves, you know. Yeah.

[Dana]

By the way, 35 is 631 for people.

[Lana]

Okay.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Using different measurements. Just so you know.

[Scott]

That is.

[Dana]

So how long do you think? How long? I almost said how long do you think he was afflicted? But I don't know where that came from since it's not a movie from the 30s. But how long do you think it had been going on?

[Lana]

Well, I think we caught it pretty quick because his, his A1C was 7.8. Okay. And at his celiac like back like four or five months prior, his A1C was normal. Like it was like 48 or something. I think I want to say. So something just transpired from like April to September.

[Dana]

He's probably like small bodied at that point. Right. He probably doesn't weigh too much.

[Lana]

No, he was, he's very thin, so. Well, that was a thing. So it was thin, thin from celiac. Then he started kind of feeling better. It seemed he wasn't. So I don't know he was just so irritable and just so not himself because he was seriously the most easygoing human being, like, you'd ever meet. So, yeah, he would just, like, get so angry and just not, like, not like him. So that kind of went away and then it kind of started up again. And just like your classic looking back now, drinking lots, going to the bathroom more at night, and, I don't know, just the usual. Those are the two things I noticed the most. And I think he was starting to get quite, like, irritable again, being really grouchy and not being himself and just like.

[Dana]

But if it wasn't for the celiac, those aren't enough to make you go to the doctor, right?

[Lana]

Well, yeah, exactly. So, like, honestly, it was just hard going in for our blood work for his celiac. And that was how we. Yeah, I don't even know. So we definitely escaped the whole Gary Dka stories, which we're so thankful for.

[Dana]

Yeah, of course. So then what do they do? It depends on what I should say. Province.

[Scott]

Right.

[Dana]

But it depends on what part of Canada you're in about how they start you. So what was the management style? Getting set up?

[Lana]

So, yeah, we went in that morning, 8am and I feel like a lot of it is such a blur. I do remember sitting there and being like, they're telling us how to, like, for food. So it was like, counting carbs and like, okay, so if he's gonna have some rice and you have to put this out and you should have to figure out, like, how much. Read the labels and how much rice he'll be having or any whatever, all the food. And I just remember everything was coming at me. And suddenly when they were telling me about how everything he eats needs to be accounted for, I just lost it and just started, like, bawling.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

Like, okay, this. This is what I was wondering about when it's like, this is bad, but I don't know how bad, you know, until you get it.

[Dana]

Yeah. And the idea of having to just keep track of so many things and measure medication every time it hit you all at once.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

So it was. So it was that. And then I think. I don't even remember. I don't even think we had, like, a meal there yet. Oh, it is such a blur. I was trying to think about.

[Scott]

No, it's.

[Dana]

It's super interesting.

[Lana]

You.

[Dana]

You don't. Your recollection is. Is cloudy for sure. Like, and is it that way about other things or is it just this?

[Lana]

Um, I feel like it has Gotten more so like that with the lack of sleep through this whole entire. I don't know, it. It played a big part in. I feel like my brain fog and not being able to remember things so well and, like, words don't come to me as good as they used to. And. I don't know, it's crazy. Like, my friends even have noticed that too.

[Dana]

How. And how long has it been now on it? Like, three, four years?

[Lana]

It will be four years. September.

[Dana]

Okay. And you're not. You're not sleeping well.

[Lana]

Better now that we are on a pump.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

We did mdi, though, for, like, two years. And everyone was always like, why are you doing mdi?

[Dana]

And why were you. Hold on a second. I'm gonna. This doesn't happen often. Give me one second.

[Lana]

Lana?

[Dana]

Yeah, Arden. I'm making the podcast. What's going on?

[Lana]

Okay, well, I need you for a second. Mom's old card is on Kyle, not her new one. I don't think so. Can you just check to make sure that I have enough to pay for this on my.

[Dana]

I'll. Okay. I'll make sure right now. Okay, yep.

[Scott]

Bye.

[Dana]

Sorry. Hold on, everybody, while I take care of some. Apparently some financial issues by moving some money around. Arden is getting her hair done at the moment, and I guess she's trying to check out, and they're like, this card doesn't work. Let's see here. Sorry.

[Lana]

No worries.

[Dana]

We'll get back to you in just a second. But the people that hate the fluff are going to hate the hell out of this. And my bank's making me put in a code so I can log in. That's taking time.

[Lana]

Oh, banking is another problem with me.

[Dana]

You're awesome. Hold on a second. Turn off this reminder for now. Let's see. Transfer a little more. Scott's money going to somebody else. That's okay. Part of it here. She's also just texting me. She's texting me now. She's like, also, it looks like my card expires next month. I'm like, oh, okay, well, we'll just worry about all that right now. Hold on a second. And now, of course, I have no idea what she did, because when she left there, I was like, so what are you getting done? She was, oh, you'll see when I get home. And I'm like, okay. Okay.

[Scott]

Oh.

[Dana]

So, yeah, Yeah. I don't know if there's like, there could be color in here. There could be a cut in here. I don't exactly know what it is. I'M transferring money. Oh, my gosh, that would be terrible. Hold on a second, let me tell her. The money's in the account. Okay. Looks like it's taken care of.

[Lana]

Oh, good.

[Dana]

Yeah, awesome. Imagine technology. Ten years ago, I would have been like, I have to go now and take. And take Arden, you know, money, so she can get out of the hairdresser with her.

[Lana]

I would probably have. I probably would have still had to do that. Like, okay, hold on.

[Dana]

Well, yeah, you're like. You're like, I think I could do this, but my phone's never going to let me. During this setup, Lana kept going, why is this happening to me? I'm like, it's not really happening to you. You just don't understand the details of what' going on. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. So, but. So you said the first two years were mdi.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Why did you. And you switched over to a pump. What pump did you get on the pod dash?

[Lana]

Because we had full intentions on going to, like, AAP because we have androids.

[Dana]

Okay. And what was I going to say there? Okay, how. Why did it take you two years to do it? Not that that's a long time. Just what was the process?

[Lana]

It is. Well, we had been doing okay because we. We were kind of doing the keto lifestyle just because it felt much easier. Like, obviously with his celiac. And then we were just finding recipes, and I was kind of like, oh, this is keto. I'm like, okay, well, let's just try that. And so it had been going okay. So at school, we would pack, like, lower carb meals, and it just wasn't very difficult to take care of. So he would just get. He would get his needle at school and, like, the EA would do it. They're called, like, educator assistants.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

Here we don't. We don't have school nurses.

[Dana]

I know.

[Lana]

So, yeah. And at home, it just seemed to be working out, like. And he didn't want anything else on him. Like, CGM was enough for him. And. Yeah, I don't know, I just felt also intimidated by, you know, more technology.

[Dana]

Yeah, no, I hear you. But what made the. So then what made the change? You just learned more because.

[Lana]

Yeah, I think so. And also, the. Oh, my goodness. The G7 was starting to work better. So. Because we were having so many troubles with it, and I don't know, it just started kind of working a little bit better for him.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

So we decided to try a pump because then we knew. Because we knew that, like, obviously the pump goes by what the CGM's numbers are okay. So, yeah, we were all kind of just ready for it, and I was getting. I was so done with the needles at night. Cause that was probably like, our biggest. The biggest hurdle.

[Dana]

Hurdle. Hey, let's pivot for half a second. Do you have other autoimmune stuff in your family? Your mom, your side, or your husband's side?

[Lana]

Well, my husband's side. Yes. He. His grandpa on his mom's side had MS, and his cousin on that side also has type 1 diabetes.

[Dana]

Okay, and how about on your side, does your mom have a thyroid problem?

[Lana]

Um, well, I'm adopted, so I don't know a whole lot about that. I just know through. Okay, so backstory.

[Dana]

Go ahead, please.

[Lana]

Through the adoption, we were obviously g. My parents were given some papers and. Oh, my gosh, I feel like I am so nervous right now for some reason or.

[Dana]

First of all, Lana, I'm adopted too. I don't know if you know that or not.

[Lana]

Yes, I did know that, actually.

[Dana]

And. And I'm. I'm sitting here thinking, like, I wonder if you maybe don't have, like, Hashimoto's and you don't know it or something like that, because, like, me.

[Lana]

Yeah, you.

[Dana]

Because you've. And the. The brain fogs for real, right?

[Lana]

Yes.

[Dana]

Is there anything else going on? Is your hair falling out? Have you gained or lost a lot of weight that you can't figure out?

[Scott]

Why?

[Lana]

Well, I've gained weight, and I kind of. I guess I am kind of like. I was losing hair worse before, but I feel like there's also a reason.

[Dana]

Yeah, I think that reason might be called Hashimoto's. Hold on a second. So, like, do you. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Everybody.

[Lana]

A lot.

[Dana]

Everybody calm down for a second. Are you fatigued?

[Lana]

I mean, yes, but. Okay. I have endometriosis, which also has a lot of those. Same.

[Dana]

Okay, okay. And there's brain fog. Do you have any cold intolerance?

[Lana]

Not really.

[Dana]

Weight gain? Yes. Hair loss?

[Lana]

Yes. Yes, yes.

[Scott]

Joint pain?

[Lana]

I feel like I have answers for those. They're not.

[Dana]

Mutt have joint pain?

[Lana]

Nope.

[Dana]

Okay. Feel weak?

[Lana]

No.

[Dana]

All right. Depressed, Sad? Anything like that?

[Lana]

Mood?

[Dana]

All over the place Sometimes. Uhhuh. I'm sorry for this last one. Any sexual dysfunction?

[Lana]

No.

[Dana]

Okay, well, you.

[Lana]

Not since the whole endometriosis thing was figured out.

[Dana]

You got that all. Oh, well, how'd you figure that out?

[Lana]

Well, I had been having quite a bit of pain, kind of in my ovary areas.

[Dana]

Right.

[Lana]

And also. So Also thought maybe I was potentially, like, gluten intolerant or even celiac, but I just never got tested for celiac.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

So I go in because I had so much pain. I went to the er and it was so bad on my one, like, my right side, and they were feeling around on there, and they'd said they could kind of feel like a bump, and they're like, oh, one could potentially be, like, endometriosis. So they got me in for a ultrasound, and. Yeah, I guess I could see it on there. Like, they did the invasive ultrasound and then also the one, like, outwardly, and that's kind of how they found it. And then I went in for surgery and had some cysts removed.

[Dana]

Interesting.

[Lana]

Yeah, so it's. So I had that, and then that's recently pain. What?

[Dana]

Recently?

[Lana]

Yeah, like, two years ago.

[Dana]

Yeah. For boys listening, when she says invasive ultrasound, she means giant dildo with a camera on it. Just so you all know what your ladies are going through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly it.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

No, I. I've heard the stories, so I haven't been there, but I've heard the stories and I've seen the face afterwards, by the way. Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. I've seen the. Oh, okay. Well, that happened.

[Lana]

Yeah. I mean, after having kids, I feel

[Dana]

like nothing that doesn't matter anymore.

[Lana]

Nothing is that scary anymore.

[Dana]

You think back to when you were 18, you're like, oh, that was so cute of me being like, oh, no, don't look.

[Lana]

Yeah, but.

[Dana]

But okay, so you had. So you had endometriosis being. You still do, right? Like, so.

[Lana]

Yes. It doesn't go away.

[Dana]

Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. No, I. I know of a fair amount of people, like, everything you just described, going to the hospital, pain on the right side, they're like, oh, it could be your. What do they do? They do. They say, first it could be your appendix, and it's not your appendix. It might be your gallbladder, and it's not your gallbladder. And then they do the thing, and then they go in and pop out a couple little cysts. You're like, oh, my God, the pain's gone. That's crazy. And. And the pain's insane, right?

[Lana]

The pain is excruciating. And so it's obviously worse when. Like, when you're on your period, ovulating. And so I don't know how much tmi, but. So, yeah, so I was still having a lot of pain, a lot of bleeding, and so I actually went back in telling Them that. And they did more ultrasound, and they found that another one had now grown. And, like, they ended up actually having to get a hysterectomy as well.

[Dana]

Oh, gosh. Did they do a full. Or would they take the. The.

[Lana]

They did it like, they took just the uterus. They left my ovaries because they didn't want to put me into, like, pre.

[Dana]

Pre. Pre. Menopause.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Lana]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dana]

Oh. Did that help?

[Lana]

Yes, definitely has.

[Dana]

Awesome. That's good.

[Lana]

I mean, in that.

[Dana]

I'm sorry, I. I don't think I'm. You know, I'm just gonna. You know what I mean? Sometimes I think of something. I'm like. I don't think I should say that, but my wife has, like, a fibroid inside of her uterus, and I had that, too. Oh, awesome. And the fibroid is growing a friend, and at this point now, like, you can almost feel it, like, through her stomach, so.

[Lana]

Oh, wow.

[Dana]

She's going in two days for a surgical consult. I'm pretty sure they're gonna do the same thing to her.

[Lana]

Yeah. Cause, well, what my. What my doctor said is he could either go in there and, like, essentially file it down or. And, like, maybe the bleeding wouldn't be so bad, and maybe your pain wouldn't be so bad, but I was just like, honestly, just get rid of the thin uterus. Just take it.

[Dana]

This horrible thing. What? Are there any downsides? Anything you've found?

[Lana]

I mean, obviously, I can't have children anymore, but I was already done with that.

[Dana]

I was gonna say, thanks, Captain Obvious. I meant other stuff. Anyone's listening right now, and they just learned that. They're like, oh, she can't have a baby now because they took the uterus out. If that just happened to you, I'm so sorry for you, but.

[Lana]

But.

[Dana]

But otherwise. Okay, so. Yeah, there's no, like, other, like, I know you didn't grow a horn or a mustache or anything like that. Lana? Lana, are you gone? Shut off her audio. This happened earlier when we were setting up. She'll figure it out in a second. You're back. There you go.

[Lana]

Here I am.

[Dana]

That's all. I love it. Any. Any. Anything weird going on or you're just generally happy you did it? She's gone again. Lana. I can't hear. Did I Actually, yeah, you're back now.

[Lana]

Oh, what the heck?

[Dana]

I know. I think it might be the question. I'll ask it again and see if your voice goes away. Were there any other unwanted side effects after this?

[Lana]

No other unwanted Side effects at all.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

Yeah. Obviously, I had to outweigh what I, like, when I was researching, like, to do it or not to do it. And I don't even remember what the things are that could potentially happen because I haven't had to worry about those, so.

[Dana]

Okay, good.

[Lana]

We're good. And I, like, I had to get another sister moved anyway, so it was like they were gonna go in there anyways, so I was like, why not,

[Dana]

you know, take care of business?

[Lana]

Take that while you're in there.

[Scott]

What.

[Dana]

What was it? Minimally evasive? Did they go through, like, they open my belly button.

[Lana]

They go through your belly button.

[Dana]

What was the recovery like?

[Lana]

Well, for the hysterectomy, it was like, six to eight weeks where you can't, like, lift or do anything. I was kind of, like, probably in bed for about a week. Obviously, you're supposed to, like, get up and move around and stuff, but, yeah, I think it was about a week.

[Dana]

It wasn't bad after that. And you just don't lift it.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

My wife's not lifting anything anyway, so we're fine.

[Lana]

No, yeah.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

So. So it was kind of like, during that time, I feel. Is when I kind of put on a weight. So I feel like there's reasons to why certain things have been going on and it is not Hashimoto's.

[Dana]

Well, maybe it's not. I. I wouldn't say it could be him.

[Scott]

It could be a lot of different things.

[Dana]

But, I mean, that's a fair amount of, like, issues going on for you, though, you know?

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

You don't forget to take care of yourself, is what I'm saying.

[Lana]

Really? No, yeah, exactly. And I feel like that's kind of this year is finally where I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna do a little bit more for myself, and because this. I can't have type 1 diabetes be bringing me down. Well, it's good.

[Dana]

Yeah. I mean, first of all, like, I'm not gonna say something like, trite, like, you have to put on your mask before somebody else's, but obviously, you need to be okay, too. And, you know, the worse it gets for you, the worse it's gonna get for everybody.

[Lana]

You just.

[Dana]

You're just gonna turn into one of those moms yelling at people at the McDonald's. You know what I mean? And there's. You don't want that, so. No, no.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

No, I don't. I want to be a happy person, but there's. There'd be nothing wrong with going to an Endocrinologist and saying, you know, my son has celiac. He has type 1 diabetes. You know, I have endometriosis. Here. Here's what's going on still. Like, why don't we just do some blood work and see where we're at? I'd love a full iron panel. I'd love. Make sure you're not in need. Make sure you're not in need.

[Lana]

Yeah. So I did actually have to go and do all that before surgery for my hysterectomy, and I was a very iron deficient. Deficient.

[Dana]

What'd they do for that?

[Lana]

I actually did get the transfusion while I was in the hospital right after my surgery.

[Dana]

Did they give you enough, though? They really had to juice you up for it to really work. Do you remember?

[Lana]

Oh, they did.

[Dana]

Do you remember what your baritone level was? There's no way. Did you look it up?

[Lana]

I'm gonna be able to look all this up even talking with you, but I can't now because otherwise, then I go away.

[Dana]

Because the way you're using your phone.

[Lana]

Yeah, yeah, but they were. It was low. Yeah, that was very low. So, yeah, they were able to do that for me while I was in the hospital, which was awesome, because then I didn't have to go back or pay for it.

[Scott]

How many.

[Dana]

How many did they give you?

[Lana]

Uh, I don't know. I don't even know how many they gave me.

[Dana]

They just said, did he do it one time or did they do it multiple times over?

[Lana]

Oh, it was just one time, like, after. And I was there for, like, I don't know. How long did it take? Two hours.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Well, I would tell you that, like, I mean, I've gone through this myself, and usually it's multiple infusions to get you back up to where you're supposed to be, and they usually give you one, Wait a week, do it again. So my thing would be.

[Lana]

Oh, yeah, that couldn't happen.

[Dana]

Yeah, my thing would be, go get those labs run again, because you're. If you go brain fog, fatigue, weight gain, hair loss, that could be anemia, right?

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

So, like, go. So I'd go back and say, hey, listen, I was low before. They gave me some, but only once. I still have a lot of these symptoms. I wonder if, you know, maybe I don't need it still. And. Because I think that. I mean, I've had people on doctors on who say that they want your Ferritin to be, like, at a minimum 70 at a. For a woman your age. And if you're if you're walking around at 10, 20, 30, a lot of doctors will tell you that's okay, but I really. It isn't. It leads to all the things you're talking about.

[Lana]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew I do need to go up for follow up blood work.

[Dana]

Good. And it's Canada. I mean, you have to hurry because you're not dying. So they're not going to help you for like nine months. So.

[Lana]

Hey, to be fair, I've actually had pretty good. I know you hear about it like everywhere here where it's just awful healthcare and stuff. And to be fair, I actually. Everything that has kind of happened to me and my family, it's been dealt with very well. Like I can't actually complain about it.

[Dana]

Cool. What province are you in?

[Lana]

In Saskatchewan.

[Dana]

Okay, well there's only three people there, so there's not much of a line. They're just like, oh, you know who's coming over to Lana? And they go, oh yeah,

[Scott]

I don't

[Lana]

sell like that, do I?

[Dana]

No, I'm just teasing him. Of course not. Not at all. But I've just heard different stories or people in some provinces that are. They'll wait nine months or something. It's not life threatening.

[Lana]

Oh yeah, yeah, it's. I mean. Okay, so it's funny, I got onto this podcast so quickly to do an interview because I was just like, you know what? Last minute, let's do it. I had my hysterectomy last minute. They called me on a Wednesday, like, want to come in on Tuesday, have your hysterectomy? I was like, yeah, sure, why not? I was on a waiting list and I had no idea when I was going to get in. So I guess that would be the thing where I was gonna have to deal with that for much longer had I not gotten in on a cancellation. Yeah, but it was, it worked so well.

[Dana]

Don't tell people how you got on the podcast. Cause it'll make them mad. Because every once in a. Basically what happens is every once in a while I go, I look at my calendar. I. Sometimes I have to move things around. I have to travel next week to travel next week for work. Can I say what I'm doing? Probably not. But I'm going to do something next week that I wasn't expecting to have to do. So I had to move some things around and make some space on my calendar. And then I realized that today I had that meeting this morning that I was telling you about and so I moved the person off of Today to another day. There was somebody scheduled for today, and I moved them. But then when you came on that, all of a sudden, I forgot to block the day off, so it looked open. And so you didn't. You didn't wait in line like everybody else, because today's not supposed to be here. But once you were emailing with me, I. Oh, we'll just work it out. Or I'll do it later in the day. And. Yeah, so don't tell the people who waited six months to come on the podcast.

[Lana]

Oh, well, I won't. Everything just seems to work out how it should, right?

[Dana]

Keep your head down. You deserve it. Trust me. So. So. So he jumps. Your son jumps to Android APS and something. Your husband sets up a DIY algorithm for people who don't know. Right. And what's your experience been like with it?

[Lana]

Um, it's been. I don't know. It's been okay. I feel like he's so sensitive to insulin that sometimes, like. Okay, for, like, dia, you can. The highest you can go is nine hours or what? Like, whatever that means, I guess. I don't even know. It's like, how long the insulin is in you for. Right.

[Dana]

Duration of insulin. Duration of insulin action.

[Lana]

Yeah. So nine hours is the highest we can go. And sometimes I feel like that's not even high enough, but. And with his. Okay, so another thing we're struggling with at night is when he is laying on it and he has a false low. It turns off the insulin because it thinks it's going low.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

And then you roll him over and he goes back up, and then it's like, oh, let's give him insulin. It's like, no, I don't want you to give him insulin. He's just going back up to his normal. Okay, what he was.

[Dana]

Does that make him low later?

[Lana]

Yeah, because it's blasting with insulin when you didn't need it. Well, so we always have to. Instead of just like. Well, then we just have to put a temp target on to be like, okay, don't send him insulin, because he's literally just going back up to where he normally should have been.

[Dana]

Okay, so it sees the rise.

[Lana]

Like little things. Yeah, it sees a rise, and then it's like, oh, it needs insulin because

[Dana]

it's going high, even if the rise doesn't go over top of the correction number. Because, like. Are you telling me. Are you telling me, like. Like, his blood sugar's nice and stable and normal, but he rolls over, gets a compression low, it cuts off his basil for a while, he looks low, you roll him over, the blood sugar pops back up and it starts to bolus.

[Lana]

Yeah, exactly. If we didn't put on a temp target. Okay, so if you forget, then it's like. Then you get to be a way around that. Like, I think you could probably. I think you'd have to make your own. Like, that's where we were kind of like. Well, I don't know how to do that.

[Dana]

Make your own What? Make your own.

[Lana]

Build it. Like, I think you can build that kind of thing on aaps, but I don't know how. Oh, and neither does my husband.

[Dana]

I see. So some sort of like an add on to the algorithm that. Yeah, that's the thing you'd like it to do in a certain situation.

[Lana]

Yeah, exactly. Okay, so he doesn't use a whole lot of insulin. Like, what? What? The max fill is like 90. And after three days of changing his pump, we usually have, like, sometimes 50, 45 to 50 units still left.

[Dana]

Okay, all right, so he's not using a ton of insulin then?

[Lana]

No, he's not.

[Dana]

No. And because you're eating more low carb and not using a lot of that kind of like celiac friendly stuff that can be higher in carb.

[Lana]

Well, I mean, we still kind of try to do lowish carb. Like, say, for supper, we'll have. We'll usually have a meat and some, like, vegetables as opposed to before. We probably, like, load in a ton of. I don't know, we'd have, like, either rice or potatoes or, you know, like that empty carb kind of keeping away from.

[Dana]

Keeping away from starches and stuff like that now.

[Lana]

Yeah. Okay, so that has definitely helped. So usually our mindset now is like a protein and a vegetable for supper. Not all the time. Like, we still have spaghetti. Like, last time I had chicken Alfredo. Like, we haven't. We were. At the first year, we were kind of not having any of that. And then it just kind of. I don't know, it just got too difficult. And he wasn't gaining weight. Like, he wasn't eating enough protein to make up for the lack of carbs or whatever.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

So we were kind of like, well, we're just gonna introduce carbs back in again. And meaning, like, spaghetti or, you know, noodles and stuff.

[Dana]

What's this? A 1C.

[Lana]

At, um. I think the last one we checked, it was 6.0.

[Dana]

Oh, my gosh. Sounds like you're doing pretty well.

[Lana]

Yeah, I mean, I'm so hard on myself. I feel like I'm. I wanted it to be. I thought it would be in the fives.

[Dana]

So you were disappointed with the six?

[Lana]

Yeah, sort of.

[Dana]

No, that. That helped.

[Lana]

I feel like we've been doing so much. I feel like we were doing so much work and then like here, that it wasn't like 5.8 or 5.7. I was just like, oh, like, how do you actually get into the fives?

[Dana]

Well, you just keep your blood sugar lower for more like stable. But. But, but I mean, first of all, he's. He's not that old, right? No, he's has to deal with celiac.

[Scott]

Does.

[Dana]

So is there something about celiac that changes the A1C? Is there accuracy? I'm trying to think if I remember something about that.

[Lana]

I don't really know about that. Like, obviously if he were to have, like, if he were to get glutened, I'm sure he would. Like that would affect some way somehow.

[Dana]

Well, okay, so it's like I'm looking it up because I could. I remember something that I didn't remember the whole thing. Like, so celiac doesn't change like the A1C test, but the idea is that untreated celiac could cause malabsorption, that could create an iron deficiency, an anemia, and then that might impact the A1C. So.

[Lana]

Right.

[Dana]

But he's not.

[Scott]

He's.

[Dana]

You guys are. Sounds like you're pretty careful with the celiac.

[Lana]

Yeah, like, we went in last time for his celiac. We got that checked too. And he's back down to like a. A regular. Like if someone were not celiac number. Now.

[Dana]

The.

[Scott]

The. The test.

[Dana]

The.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

IGA test. Right.

[Lana]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dana]

Well, that's good news. I mean, you have two toasters now, so you might as well utilize them. Was that as an. As an adult, you mean taking the health part out of it for a second? Is there a moment where you look at the countertop and there's two toasters there and you think, oh, my God, we have two toasters. What happened to us?

[Lana]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. We actually finally were just able to move it over to like, we moved into a new house and the like, pantry area didn't have any, like, plug ins. And so we're like, what the heck? We can't put our two toasters in the pantry. We had to have them out on. On the counter.

[Dana]

Two toast.

[Lana]

Anyways.

[Dana]

What a waste of your adulthood.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Just. My goodness. How does he hand. How does he handle it?

[Scott]

Go.

[Dana]

You mean what? Go ahead. I'm sorry. I Cut you off?

[Lana]

No, I was just gonna say, like, we have more than just two toasters. It's like two of so many things.

[Dana]

Two bread knives, two places where you keep stuff. Like you're keeping things completely separate.

[Lana]

Well, kind of like, do we have one kind of cabinet for him and then the other side is the gluten stuff. Okay, but so, I mean, if you had like a small kitchen, I just feel like having all this double of

[Dana]

things would be annoying, overwhelming or maybe contaminate itself. Right, too. Is that, is that. Does he have like flare ups from contaminations or is it not that.

[Lana]

Honestly, no, I feel like he wouldn't. He has gotten sick maybe once or twice and we thought, oh, well, maybe it was gluten. And I think both times is when we'd gone out for a meal. And so I remember him like the next day he kind of felt like he had to throw up and stuff.

[Dana]

And.

[Lana]

Well, you know how when a child has to throw up after dosing him, it's never fun.

[Dana]

Just like, oh, good, all the insulin's in there, but under the food.

[Lana]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dana]

So it's. So the whole thing is like, I mean, you're. Are you a stay at home? Did you say you stay with the kids during the day or you, you leave and go to work, though? She's gone.

[Lana]

Yeah. So I'm definitely the, the primary, like caregiver when it comes to especially diabetes. So I'm always the one in like talking with the school or messaging back and forth with him.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Lana]

Which he's gotten really good at now.

[Dana]

That's awesome. You guys are kind of texting about his diabetes back and forth.

[Lana]

Yeah, yeah. So he has a, like a phone and a watch. So just recently he's been doing so much better with like, okay, it looks like you're wing. Well, you should have a tab. And then I'll give the thumbs up. Or if his alarm goes off, he'll be like, okay, I'm having a tab because my alarm went off.

[Dana]

Nice. That's good.

[Lana]

And that's just recent.

[Dana]

Yeah, that's good. I mean, it'll keep growing. You know what I mean? Like, things will get easier, better. He'll understand more. You'll probably rest more. That'll be good too. And then things will seem different in the light of day, I would imagine. Husband knows a lot of. Knows anything about it or is mainly stays into the, like the app building side of this.

[Lana]

No, no, no, he. I mean, he does do the app part side of it, but no, he's Definitely involved. And I've gone away and, like, for a weekend or whatever. If I go out, he's. There's no problem. I'm not like, okay, are you gonna be able to handle this? Yeah. I mean, I do feel like I know more about it and obviously, because I am more involved while he's at work, but no, there. It's definitely both of us.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

Doing it.

[Dana]

That's awesome.

[Lana]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dana]

Where do you think this all goes? So, like, when you. I mean, do you have the brain space for that to think about? Like, how is your son gonna grow with this? What are expectations for him look like short term, long term? Or is it more of a one day at a time thing for you?

[Lana]

I feel like I've kind of taken it more so one day at a time, just because before, like, the first year was. I would say it was pretty dark.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

It was kind of always thinking about what's going to happen, what could happen. I feel like I haven't had the best information given to me about other type ones in my life. Like, one of my friends, she actually passed away from type 1 diabetes, and my birth mom almost passed away from it, and my husband's cousin has quite a few medical issues from it, too. So.

[Dana]

What. So wait, you're kind of like, yeah, that's upsetting. But your birth mom had type one has.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Scott]

And.

[Dana]

And then. And someone on your husband's side has it too.

[Lana]

Yep.

[Dana]

Okay. Yeah. It's a perfect little mix here. Did you guys. Did you guys meet on. On autoimmune? Tinder? How did you.

[Lana]

I mean, you could minus the word autoimmune, but we did meet on Tinder.

[Dana]

Oh. Oh, God. So the kid was. The kid was. I don't want to say doomed, but he was definitely gonna, like, something was going to pop up. And this makes me think more about. Good.

[Lana]

It's so funny. Well, okay. Not funny, but I feel like until his diagnosis, I really didn't have a whole lot of information or even know much about autoimmune because it wasn't really in my adoptive family that I knew of.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

Um, so I had read, like, I was saying. Oh, yeah, here's what I was saying before in the papers that we had gotten with, like, through the adoption. It had a little bit of description of her, and it said she had gestational diabetes while she was pregnant with me. Um, and so, like. But then I actually ended up meeting her and she. I remember her talking about diabetes, but it was never like, a specific, like, Yes. I have type 1 diabetes.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

Unless she did, and I just don't remember because I was 18.

[Dana]

But when you met her, how'd you end up meeting her?

[Lana]

Um, well, my. They didn't. I think it was on the adoption papers. They forgot to, like, white out, I guess, essentially, her name, so we were able to go off of her name. And my mom, like, my adoptive mom. Well, I guess my adopted mom, my third mom.

[Dana]

Wait, who was the second one?

[Lana]

My dad's first wife passed away when I was two.

[Dana]

So you were.

[Lana]

They had adopted me in.

[Dana]

You were adopted by a man and his wife, and then when you were two, she passed away and then he remarried.

[Lana]

Yes.

[Dana]

And so you've only. So you don't even know that? You don't. You don't have any recollection of your first adopted mom?

[Lana]

No. No, not really at all. Like, my brother does. He was. I think he was 10 when she died.

[Dana]

Okay, but your brother is. Wait, wait. Is your brother another adopted person or is he natural to the two of them?

[Lana]

Uh, he's natural to my dad now and his first wife.

[Dana]

His first wife.

[Lana]

And then my dad remarried to the mom I have now, and they had two more kids, naturally. Naturally, yes. And I'm. I'm the only adopted one.

[Dana]

It's so interesting that you don't refer to the woman who adopted you as your mom. Mom. She's your dad's first wife.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Have you ever thought about that?

[Lana]

I have. Yeah. It's almost like I feel like I didn't have her long enough to call her my mom or something. And I feel like. I don't know. It's really weird. I've definitely had this conversation in my mind before.

[Dana]

Yeah. Because if you were born to two people and two years later your mom died, you'd say that my mom died when I was 2, and then my dad remarried, and this is my step.

[Lana]

Well, yeah. I don't know if I made it clear my birth mom is not with, like, the dad that I'm.

[Dana]

No, no, you were clear. No, but. So, yeah, so what I'm saying is, is that I. In a supposition kind of. If you suppose for a second, let's say you were born to the people you were born to and they kept you, and then two years later, your mom. That mom died, and then your father got remarried, you would say to people, my mom died when I was 2. I was raised by my dad and my stepmom.

[Lana]

Right. Yeah, you're right.

[Dana]

Yeah. It's a. It's A.

[Lana]

It's funny you picked that up, because that's definitely something that I think about where I don't usually refer her to as my mom.

[Dana]

Yeah, no, no, you're definitely. You're talking around it on purpose, like. But not, like, just because we're recording. That's how you talk about it. Like, I could tell.

[Lana]

Oh, yeah.

[Scott]

This is the part.

[Lana]

Wow.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Dana]

I'm really good at this part. I don't. It's. Sorry.

[Lana]

Oh, I know. I've. I've noticed that.

[Dana]

Okay. Oh, it's interesting. You should see a therapist. Do they have them? What would they do? They just put you with an otter?

[Lana]

Well, no, I think they just set you up with some, like, bear or something.

[Scott]

A bear?

[Dana]

Yeah, yeah, a bear and the bear and an otter talk to you until you feel better, and then you go work on the oil rigs and then it's over.

[Lana]

Yeah, exactly that.

[Dana]

You know, I. I like to bring this up all the time, but there was a woman on one time who was a cancan dancer up in, like, northern Canada, and I was always, like. Like, just taken with that idea. She was. She was just into, like, a. Like a CD bar, just, like, you know, shaking her ass, trying to get Canada. Trying to get. Trying to get some. Some gold coins thrown out at the stage. I don't think she did it long, but it was just the way she said it. One day, she was like, I was a cancer. I was like, get out of here. It's crazy. Wow. Okay. Well, I am. Here's the things I'm worried about for you. I'm worried about your anemia. I think it's possibly still here. I think you should get.

[Lana]

Okay, well, I'll get the blood work done.

[Dana]

Thank you. I think you should get a full thyroid panel while you're getting the iron panel. Just because your mom had type one, your birth mom had type one, and your kid has type one and celiac, so. And you've had the endometriosis. I just feel like you're a. You're a melting pot for something like that to happen and probably. And you. You seem lovely, but you are struggling for, like, for your words.

[Lana]

Oh, I know.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

It's been really bad.

[Dana]

Yeah, it was perfect time for you to, like, get on.

[Lana]

Thyroid checked, by the way.

[Dana]

You got your thyroid checked? What? What? How did that come back?

[Lana]

Uh, I think it was. Well, it was under two.

[Dana]

The TSH was under two. Good, good. I'm glad. See, I'm helping. So then we. Then we got. Yeah. Then we get to anemia next. And now that I know you had. You were anemic when they. I was going to say when they hoisted out your.

[Lana]

Just get rid of.

[Dana]

You were anemic when they hoisted out your uterus and they gave you an infusion. But those hospital infusions, I guarantee you, is one of the small bags. It wasn't enough. I'm going to guess. Okay, I'm betting my. I'm going to bet my. My gold coin, Khan Dyke Cancan loonies that you're anemic still and that's why you're having brain fog right now.

[Lana]

Okay, that would make sense.

[Dana]

That's. It all fits. And if I'm wrong, this was free. So what are you gonna do about it? But, like, I. I really think that. I think you call the doctor up, say, hey, I think I might still be anemic. I need another test.

[Lana]

They did say, like, you could potentially need more.

[Dana]

Well, no. What in the.

[Lana]

You know.

[Dana]

God, don't make me curse at you, Lana. Why didn't you do the thing then?

[Lana]

I don't know. I hate needles.

[Dana]

As much as you hate not being able to find simple words during conversation,

[Lana]

I can usually cover it up better, I feel, but that's so focused, like.

[Dana]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Yeah. What do you do?

[Lana]

I mean, I'm so, like, I'm just more scared of needles than I am of anything. Like, I didn't even have epidural with my kids, so.

[Dana]

Listen to me, I'll go with you. All right, well, not me. I'll send your husband. But I mean, like, someone will go with you. You'll be cool. It'll be fine and be free. Can I. I'm going to tell you something crazy. This is embarrassing. It's okay. So I'm having. I, I, you know, I. My dental health is much better now that I go to the dentist more frequently. But when I grew up, I never went to the dentist. Like, I think the first time I went to the dentist, I was, like, 19, and people were like, oh, my God, where was he, in the Adirondacks? No, I was in Pennsylvania. And so. But anyway, like, I've had a number of root canals over my lifetime, and I've had them long enough ago now that a couple of them are. But they're time to. You got to recondition them. You got to get in there and shine them up.

[Lana]

You need to get a crown.

[Dana]

Well, no, I have a crown. They got to take the crown. They got to take the crown off. Go back in, clean it up again, put a new post in, like, all this stuff, right? So I've been doing that this year for two of them. I've got one finished and I'm working on the second one. So I went to the dentist two days ago where he, in the back of my jaw, injected me twice so that he could pop off the temporary crown, clean it out, put the post in, and put on another temp crown, wait for the real crown to come in. So he injects me twice. And then the next day. And this is the part I was going to be embarrassed about. Arden and I went to get our eyebrows threaded. So I'm going to be recorded for something next week. And I wanted to make sure my eyebrows were good. And she was going, well, you're getting. You'll get the. Hold on for the story. And, and, and then. And she's going to some sort of like a college mixer this weekend. Like, you know, they're spending the night to, like, a hotel and there's like a big thing in there. So she, she's like, I have to go get my eyebrows on. Do you want to go? And I was like, oh, my God, yeah, I'm doing that thing for Omnipod next week. I want to go. And so, like, we went. While she was plucking out the. The. My eyebrows, I actually thought this hurts more than going to the dentist. To me, and the dentist is using a jacked up big needle. But he's just, he's an. He's an artist. Like, the man's an artist. He should be. There should be a statue to him somewhere.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

But I don't want you to get you wrong. Like, it's not that, like, five seconds after they're done doing the eyebrows, it's over. It's not like it doesn't linger or anything like that. And so my point is, does getting your eyebrows threaded really hurt worse than being shot with a needle in your mouth? I don't think so, but I think it's like the anticipation of it.

[Lana]

It's definitely the anticipation.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

Yeah. I. I work in dental, actually. No. So people coming. I'm like the front. So I was doing admin, so you could definitely tell when people were coming in. They're very nervous and like, no one likes the dentist. No one's happy to be there. They're so much different when they leave. Had, like, people apologize and be like, I'm sorry how I was at the beginning of this appointment.

[Dana]

I love, I love going to the dentist. It's so relaxing. Like, so, like. Yeah, because, like, two and a half hour appointment to work on a. Work on the root canal, right? I put my head back. I put some. I go. I go to sleep. Sometimes they got to wake me up to move me around. They're like, scott, can you turn your head? I'm like, oh, sorry. So relaxed. So relaxed. Oh, I love the. My dad just says, no one's ever said this before, but when they're cleaning out the roots, they use this bit that kind of feels like it's. It feels bumpy. I don't know another way to say it. Like, it feels like it's. And it makes a different sound and it almost feels bumpy while it's in there. And he gets done. I'm like, are you. Are you cleaning out the roots right there? I said, yeah. I said, I love that feeling.

[Lana]

But you're not really feeling it. You just kind of sort of feel it.

[Dana]

It's like. It feels like. Like, look, I don't obviously know what he's doing, but it feels like. Because I can't see it, but it feels like he's taking a round item and putting it into a tubular thing and that. It's kind of boring through it, and I like the way it feels. So anyway, take. Don't take me. And then I'm at the. The threading, and I'm like, oh, that hurt. I gotta walk out. Arnold goes, okay. I'm like, oh, it hurts so much.

[Lana]

So I've never had that done.

[Dana]

Yeah. By the time you get to the car, it's over. Yeah, but it's good. Yeah. Seven bucks, by the way. Very realistic.

[Lana]

Let's keep there. I don't know if it'd be that cheap here.

[Dana]

Yeah, well, maybe. Listen, let me give you a good. A good tip. Find an Indian population to do it for you.

[Lana]

Okay?

[Scott]

Really?

[Dana]

They're.

[Lana]

Yeah, I could see them being really good.

[Dana]

Very good. Very good, nevertheless. All right, well, do you. You know what to do now? You know what you're gonna do?

[Lana]

Go get my blood test.

[Dana]

My blood test. Make sure I'm not anemic, get some more infusions, feel better. In a couple of months, probably send you an email and say thank you. That's probably how it'll.

[Lana]

Yes.

[Dana]

Right. And then. And then you'll be able to, like, kind of like drill down on. No pun intended, on the kid's diabetes, get yourself some rest and be okay. Are we worried about this other kid? Is he a ticking time bomb or. She, by the Way. Great name, Olive. Really great name, Olive.

[Lana]

Yeah. Thanks.

[Dana]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does she have anything going on or. Not so far.

[Lana]

Um, no, not that we know of. Um, she seems okay, and I hope that it stays that way.

[Dana]

Yeah, no, me too.

[Lana]

I always see, like, when other people are like, oh, my second type. One diabetic child. I'm just like, I can't even. I mean, you can imagine it, but it's just one is enough to deal with.

[Dana]

No, thank you. I'm okay.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

Okay. You can give that to somebody else.

[Lana]

Yeah, we'll be hard. We're good here.

[Dana]

We're good here. Everybody's fine. Thanks. Oh, my gosh. Well, I would ask you if there's anything else that we should have talked about that we didn't, but I don't know how the hell you would remember, so.

[Lana]

Well, that's. Yeah, I wrote it all down.

[Dana]

You wrote it all down, by the way.

[Scott]

In the beginning.

[Dana]

She's like, but my notes are on my phone, and we're using my phone to record, and I can't go to my notes without shutting my phone off. And I was like, send them to your. Send them to your computer. And she was like, how is that going to happen?

[Lana]

No, no, no. I knew how. I just couldn't exit out of you in my email.

[Dana]

Exit out of you in my email should be the name of my. My autobiography. But seriously, is there anything that we didn't talk about that we should have? This was a little more about you than it was about the kid. But I. I'm okay.

[Lana]

It really was.

[Dana]

Yeah.

[Lana]

And it's funny because I even said that when I was talking to my husband, I'm like, who knows what avenue we are going to go down? Because listening to your podcast, it's. You never know.

[Dana]

Yeah, please.

[Lana]

I listen to it all the time while I'm sewing, so thank you.

[Dana]

I appreciate it. Sewing? What are you selling? What are you making?

[Lana]

I sew and sell children's clothing. Oh, wow.

[Dana]

Is it extra warm?

[Lana]

It can be, like, really warm.

[Dana]

How do you. How do you sell it?

[Lana]

What do you mean, how?

[Dana]

The Internet. You sell it on the corner. You. You go to the Chick Fil A and do it in the parking lot.

[Lana]

What do you mean, how.

[Dana]

What's your.

[Lana]

Yeah, I do sell online. I'm not very good at getting the stuff up on there. So anytime people like, oh, you have a website. I'm like, yeah, sort of. But I usually do markets around the city here. And then now that I've gotten quite a. Quite a Good clientele. People just do a lot of custom orders. So I show them the fabric that I have and I have my website showing the kind of things that I could make, and then we just go from there and I sew their children up. Lovely wardrobes.

[Dana]

Listen to me. What's your web address? How do the people find you? I don't normally pimp people's businesses, but this sounds lovely. What are we doing here?.com of some sort. What do you got?

[Lana]

Unfortunately, it is not a dot com because I don't ship anywhere outside of Canada.

[Dana]

Sorry, Canadians. Listen to this. I just want to go look at it. What's the address?

[Lana]

Oh, it is W.W. gabe and Olive. Ca. I usually.

[Dana]

Who even knew that was real?

[Lana]

I usually use more like my Instagram.

[Dana]

Oh, of course. What's your. Well, hold on, I'll tell people. Oh, this is nice. Hold on a second. Oh, look at you. And there's Moose on there. Of course there's Moose. Why? It's all you know about. Is this you in the photo?

[Lana]

What? Let me just. You don't like.

[Dana]

Do you not know your own website?

[Lana]

I.

[Dana]

Oh, my God. You not know if this is you on your website or not?

[Lana]

Well, it's me.

[Dana]

Well, then just say yes.

[Lana]

I'm just saying. I was just like.

[Dana]

Wait, I'm gonna get into a fight in a second.

[Lana]

Oh, there I am.

[Dana]

So T shirts, tops, little skirt top. Oh, that's cute. Look at you.

[Lana]

Yeah, that's me. Oh, my gosh.

[Dana]

Oh, my gosh. You're lovely. This is wonderful. You make all this yourself?

[Lana]

Yeah, yeah, I do it all myself. I kind of learned from, well, mostly the Internet or just kind of picking it up. My. This one girl on my Facebook, I was kind of friends with her back in the day, and I kept seeing her stuff that she was making and I'm like, can you. Can I come over and you just show me how to use a serger? So she said yes, and I went over there and I, like, sewed something up and I just went on from

[Dana]

there and just ripped her off and knocked her out of business. Is that what you did?

[Lana]

Well, she always says that I've actually out whatever her in her because I went to markets and now I sell to a bunch of people.

[Dana]

So lovely. Oh, look at this.

[Lana]

Outdone the teacher, I guess.

[Dana]

She said, oh, look at this cardigan. You're really talented. This is wonderful.

[Lana]

Oh, thank you.

[Dana]

Yeah. Oh, that's cool.

[Lana]

Yeah, so. And like, I sew for my family, but I don't really Sell a whole lot of adult stuff just because, I mean, people say they want it and then I'm like, this is how much? And they're like, oh, okay, nevermind.

[Dana]

I'm gonna go to Walmart, but thank you.

[Lana]

Yeah, never mind.

[Dana]

It's funny. They'll spend. They'll spend it on their kids. Huh. But not on themselves.

[Lana]

Yeah, kind of. But I mean, I feel like it's. I don't know. The way my clothing is, is a lot of it is. It does actually last a lot longer than maybe a typical outfit from the store.

[Dana]

Yeah, I would imagine my kids have

[Lana]

still worn for like two to three years, so I don't know.

[Dana]

Thank God I don't have babies, because if I showed this to my wife, we'd be hanging to ship.

[Lana]

I know. I'm kind of glad I started sewing after my kids were not babies anymore.

[Dana]

Yeah, I started during COVID All right, well, listen, Canadians. Gabe and Olive, Ca. You can go look yourself. Buy something. Obviously. Buy something from Lana. She needs. She needs a steak. She's got to get her. She got to get her. Her iron up, help her out a little bit. My gosh.

[Lana]

Well, I need to get my iron up and then maybe in like two years that I can come back on here and I'll be a whole new un. Foggy person.

[Dana]

Well, was just going to say, honestly, when you get this all figured out, I think I might like it if you came back on after. You listen to yourself, because it's possible you're going to be like, oh, my God, what the hell was going on? Because, wait. Yeah, no, because I've gone through it, like, I've had really low iron, and I'm telling you, like, you're doing shit you don't even realize you're doing, so.

[Lana]

Oh, no.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Dana]

All you go out there, check your own.

[Lana]

I feel it. Well, I also do have anxiety, so that doesn't help things.

[Dana]

Well, do you know that? Come hold on a second while I teach you. Anxiety and anemia, I think go hand in hand. So if you are like, let's say you have silent celiac, maybe, or, you know, there's another reason that you're anemic. You could. You could have low iron throughout your life.

[Lana]

Yeah.

[Dana]

And anemia can possibly make anxiety feel worse. And sometimes it can look like anxiety even when the main driver is just low iron, low B12 blood loss, or another anemia.

[Scott]

Cause.

[Lana]

Hmm.

[Dana]

Do you have.

[Scott]

Do.

[Dana]

Do you have a computer there? In. In Canada? You do, right?

[Lana]

I do have a computer.

[Dana]

Have you have you found the chatgpt yet and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, just type in.

[Lana]

I do know how to use that.

[Dana]

Just type in anemia impacts anxiety, and then just go read it.

[Lana]

Okay.

[Dana]

Okay. Because anemia may not cause anxiety in the emotional sense, but it can create body sensations that your brain interprets as danger, racing heart, breathlessness, shakiness, exhaustion, and that can trigger or amplify anxiety. Oh, yeah, you're like, oh, that's me. To keep reading. Iron deficient anemia especially can cause fatigue, shortness of breath, chest discomfort, fast heartbeat, dizziness, lightheadedness, cold hands or feet, and the symptoms often intensify as the deficiency gets worse. Do you have shortness of breath when you run up steps?

[Lana]

Uh, not really. And I've started to work out. I go to a trainer, so.

[Dana]

Okay. I just feel. I feel like you just. You just. CBC, ferritin, iron panel, B12 folate, thyroid test and evaluate blood loss if the iron is low. Like, you're not. You don't have any GI bleeding or anything like that, right? No, no. Do you still get your period without your uterus?

[Lana]

Nope.

[Dana]

No. Right.

[Lana]

See, that was the problem with low iron.

[Dana]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just need two more jackups. Two more bags. I tell you. Two more bags in your set. I'm not a doctor, and this is not advice, but two more bags and I think you're a different person.

[Lana]

Yeah, I definitely. Okay, you know what? I'm gonna call my doctor. I'm gonna get another blood work done and see how my Ferritin is.

[Dana]

Everyone says it low. Everyone says it. Not enough people email me back and say I did it.

[Lana]

So do you want me to email you back?

[Dana]

I do, but you won't, because no one ever does. I'm just a throw. I'm a throwaway avatar in your life. I'm not a real person to you. It's fine. All right.

[Lana]

I do not use avatars.

[Dana]

But did you like the movie with

[Scott]

the blue things and the dragons?

[Lana]

No, I actually didn't.

[Dana]

Why not? Why. Why are you the only person that didn't like Avatar?

[Lana]

I. I don't know, but I remember everyone talking about how amazing it was, and I'm like, okay. I kind of found that boring.

[Dana]

Okay.

[Lana]

I don't know.

[Dana]

The ride at Disney is pretty awesome or wherever it is. I don't know where it is. Disney, maybe. Oh, it's a good ride.

[Lana]

Haven't been.

[Dana]

Yeah. Well, I mean, how are you going to get out of the country?

[Lana]

I don't know.

[Dana]

Yeah, you don't have enough energy. You're not going to make it.

[Lana]

I actually just have zero desire to travel right now.

[Dana]

Maybe you'll feel better if your iron's hot right now. I mean, the idea of getting on a pontoon boat and then taking a kayak to get to a bus to get to an airport, I mean, how are you gonna. It's a lot of work. And then that sounds exhausting. The last 50 miles are sled dog. Right. And then you're on your way. But it's not great. How did you end? Are you born there? How you. I almost said, how do you end up there?

[Lana]

I was born in Saskatchewan and I have not moved or, like, lived anywhere else other than Saskatchewan.

[Dana]

Interesting.

[Lana]

I almost moved to Alberta, but then I didn't, and I'm glad I didn't. And I like that. I live out on an acreage out of the city.

[Dana]

How much.

[Lana]

I grew up on a farm.

[Dana]

How much space?

[Lana]

Just, like under three acres. It's small, but it. I can see the stars and the sunsets and the sun rises and it's glorious.

[Dana]

I'm not going to argue with you. I looked at a house in the south and I didn't have, like. I wasn't really, like, I wasn't like, show me a house. I was going through. I'll explain this to you. I was going through Tennessee on the way to Atlanta to do a talk in Atlanta for Touch by Type 1, which, by the way, went great. Touch by Type1.org check it out. And then I. But I had met. I hope this is. Doesn't sound too obtuse, but I. I went on a cruise in December to check out the ship that I'm taking everybody on in June. And while I was on the ship, I met a woman who was a former American Idol contestant. She was singing on the ship. It's kind of funny. And her name's Ashley. Amber. She might be somebody you recognize because she has a giant afro. So I think that's how people know her. Anyway, she was singing on the ship. She and I were getting food at the same time on the ship, and somebody had kind of, like, accosted her. Like, somebody. Somebody recognized her from the. Being the singer, obviously, and then was

[Scott]

talking to her, not meanly, but was

[Dana]

really just monopolizing her time. So I have kind of gone through that at diabetes events.

[Scott]

I can tell the look on her

[Dana]

face when she's like, I'm just trying to eat this food. Please leave me alone for five seconds. Right. So I kind of I stepped in, and I was like, oh, my God. Hi. And I kind of just like, hijacked the conversation. Then the woman felt the pressure. She excused herself and left. And then she looked at me like, oh, God, no, I talked to you. And I went, hey, I don't really want to talk to you. I was just saving you. Go ahead and eat your dinner. And she comes up to me afterwards. She goes, how did you know I needed to be saved? And I said, well, in certain situations, I'm more famous than anyone in the world. And I was like, but not in many situations, just in very specific ones. I was like. And I know the look of. I'm just trying to eat this food. Please.

[Scott]

I just.

[Dana]

I need five minutes. And then we started talking. Yeah, we started talking. And she's like, actually, I'm not going to do the ships much longer. I'm really going to pivot to. Because this is how she makes her living. She sings on cruise ships. And. And then she's like, I'm going to start selling real estate in Tennessee. And she's like, I live in Nashville. And I was like, oh, that's one of the places. I talked to my wife about moving to. And so we just kind of kept in contact. And then I found myself traveling to Atlanta, and I said, crazy question. If I drove to Atlanta instead of flew there, if I spun through, could you just show me a couple of houses real quick? I'm not looking for a house that will be a waste of your time, but, like, can you? Would you? And she was nice enough to do it. So she just picked a couple of houses, and I didn't know where to pick, or I had no idea. Like, I hadn't looked into it at all. And I just followed her lead, and she put me on this piece of property. It was five acres, and I. It took a while to get from the road to the house. And then I walked the house, and I was like, this is really lovely. It was, like, new construction and everything. It was really nice. And I walked out back, and I was making a video for Kelly, who was not with me. I was going to show her the house. And I got outside, and it struck me how silent it was outside. There was no noise anywhere. And then a bird chirped. Not 20, not a thousand. And I. And I realized I'm only listening to the bird chirping right now. And I could have. I would have. Like, if I didn't have kids and a wife, I would have just been like, this is fine. I'll take this one. And I would just stayed.

[Scott]

See?

[Dana]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is good. I'll be okay here. Anyway, I take your point because I've been bugging my family incessantly about it since then. I was like, come on. This is the art. I'm like, I know you probably love your boyfriend. I'm like, but you could find another guy. Like, let's go.

[Lana]

And I mean, I feel like had I been 20, I would not have wanted to move out here. I was like, yes. City life. And then it got into my later years, like, 35. And I'm like, hey, you know what? I think we could move out to an acreage. And then finally it happened, like, a year and a half ago.

[Dana]

Yeah, I'm in. I'll leave right now. Like, I'll. I'll. You got. I'll sell this and leave. You have it as is. I'll buy a new bed when I get there. Like, I'm. I'd be happy. I'd be happy to go. So I don't think I've got a large.

[Lana]

Ever Going to have large garden. It's. Yeah, it's awesome.

[Dana]

I said to my wife, I was like, you could plant something. I'm like, you're always talking about it. You could actually do it. You know, like, you already worked food or just flowers.

[Scott]

Any.

[Dana]

Who cares, right? Forget a chicken.

[Scott]

I don't know.

[Lana]

There's a fox. Fox just ran by our yard.

[Dana]

Oh, what does the fox say? Did it say anything?

[Lana]

What does the fox say? I know. He's just running. He's so cute.

[Dana]

Look at that.

[Lana]

That's what I want. So, like, adhd, just like a fox.

[Dana]

Oh, my God. Fox. I was like. When you said that, I thought. I thought you were pretending that a fox ran by during

[Scott]

my experience.

[Dana]

You were adding.

[Lana]

It's not very often that we see a fox. We see lots of deer, but a fox is not as common. They're around, but I just don't see them. Yeah.

[Dana]

Well, anyway, I guess there's a long way of saying if you're looking for a realtor in the Nashville area, Ashley Amber. He really is good to know. Fantastic. All right, I'm gonna let you go now. Hold on one second.

[Lana]

Okay?

[Dana]

Stay with me.

[Scott]

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[Dana]

Come on. You probably feel like I'm messing with you, but I'm not.

[Scott]

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