#1895 Laying Pipe

Summary

Juicebox Podcast: Type 1 Diabetes

Episode #1895: Laying Pipe
Release Date: July 6, 2026
Host: Scott Benner
Guest: Melissa, mother of a 4-year-old with Type 1 Diabetes

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Scott Benner sits down with Melissa, a self-described quirky and outspoken mother of a recently diagnosed four-year-old with Type 1 diabetes. They explore Melissa’s unconventional life journey, the emotional aftermath of her daughter's diagnosis, and actionable, reassuring strategies for new families facing Type 1. Throughout, the hosts stress the importance of "being bold with insulin" and shed light on the psychological challenges, family dynamics, and advancing diabetes management technologies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Melissa’s Unconventional Path to Motherhood

• Late Bloomer: Melissa, now 42, had her first child at 38 and is getting married soon. She recounts her journey through previous relationships and career changes, offering humor and candor throughout.

  • Quote (03:44) — Scott: “How old were you when you let that boy make you pregnant?”
  • Melissa: “38 with that one.”

• Career as a Plumber: Melissa spent a decade as a plumber, joining her family's business and thriving in a male-dominated field by matching the workplace banter and culture.

  • Quote (16:38) — Scott: “Was it because of the joke about the lesbian laying pipe? Was that it?”
  • Melissa: “Oh, no, I was so…I learned very early on you had to give all the guys more shock than what they will say to you.”

2. Recognizing and Responding to Diagnosis

• Diagnosis Story: The signs—frequent urination, excessive thirst, fatigue, confusion—were initially attributed to potty training and general toddler behavior. The situation escalated over Mother’s Day weekend when her daughter became lethargic and developed labored breathing.

  • Memorable moment (23:20) — Scott: “Immediately I'm like, oh, you thought diabetes?”
  • Melissa: “Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I had, you know, the old Google and ChatGPT.”

• Family History: Melissa's aunt had Type 1 and lost her sight early, highlighting generational challenges and the advances in diabetes care:

  • Quote (24:30) — “It does not make sense to me that they were able to manage anything back then. Like, it's hard enough now, like.”

3. The Initial Shock and Hospital Experience

• Hospital Whirlwind: Admitted on a Saturday, discharged Tuesday; immediate introduction to technology (Dexcom).

  • Quote (31:12) — “We left with a Dexcom. Thank God. I don't like when people talk bad about Dexcom... That's my buddy.”

• Support Network: Multiple medical professionals and friends recommended the Juicebox Podcast to Melissa, even though she was not previously a podcast listener.

  • Quote (26:49) — Melissa: "That was the very first time... the one nurse that took her blood sugar was like, 'you need to listen to the Juicebox Podcast.'”

4. Adapting and Learning: Bold With Insulin

• Self-Education: Melissa describes the learning curve, initially feeling “mind blown” by the volume and complexity. She credits the podcast’s Pro Tips and Bold Beginnings episodes for helping her develop confidence.

  • Quote (44:59) — Scott: “Here’s my hope... Nothing works without good settings, and I need to understand the impact of the food, and timing’s really important.”
  • Melissa: “I mean, that’s the goal.”

• Technological Adoption: Her daughter uses Omnipod 5, and Melissa keeps up with advancements (e.g., algorithm updates and upcoming tech improvements).

  • Quote (68:09) — Scott: “That's Omnipod 5 with just the zhuzhed up algorithm... you're going to be able to target 100.”

5. Practical Strategies & Emotional Challenges

• Practical Tips for Other Parents:

  • “You don't have to be a veteran… to get good management.” (64:09)
  • “Just do it. Don't be afraid. You know how to fix it.” (65:02)
  • Pre-bolusing when possible (even just a little) improves outcomes, but it's tricky with toddlers.
    • “She knows she has to wait about 40 minutes if she wants a banana.” (45:20)

• Device Anxiety and Coping:

  • Daughter is proud to show off her devices in public but experiences anxiety with insertion (“the clicking”). Distraction (massagers, clicking pens) and positive reinforcement help.
    • Quote (49:05) — “I got one of those percussional massagers... to divert the feeling.”
    • Quote (50:13) — "She's a... she seems afraid of the devices, but she seems to be also very proud of them."

• Psychological Impact on Melissa:

  • Occasional sadness at seeing her child’s body marked by devices, quickly replaced by gratitude and realism (“she kicks her sister and the feeling goes away”). (52:58)

6. Family, Relationships, and Life Balance

• Division of Care: While Melissa carries most of the diabetes management load, her partner is supportive but less detail-oriented.

  • Quote (54:46) — “I am definitely the caretaker. I hyper fixate on things more than he does.”

• Old School Values: Her family’s Catholic background leads to quirks in wedding planning and generational tension:

  • Quote (84:04) — Scott: “We got to pretend on that still.”
  • Melissa: “Yeah, There's a lot of hypocrisy with that one.”

• Reflections on Perspective:

  • Melissa reached out to Type 1 friends to apologize for not understanding their struggles (“I didn’t know... I apologize for the downplay.” [62:58]).

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Hospital Recommendations:
  “That was the very first time... the one nurse that took her blood sugar was like, 'you need to listen to the Juicebox Podcast.'” (26:49)

• On DIY Learning:
  "I don't understand why we can't talk like that... I think everybody would be better off if they just said what they thought..." (11:16)

• On Managing Lows and Highs:
  “Don’t sit at, look at it and be like, why is it doing this? Just fix it and then figure it out later. Just do it.” (65:22)

• On Technology’s Role:
  “I love my Dexcom. Like, it’s a lifesaver.” (31:12)
  “That's Omnipod 5 with just the zhuzhed up algorithm... you're going to be able to target 100.” (68:09)

• Advice for Newly Diagnosed Families:
  “You don’t have to be a veteran of diabetes to get good management.” (64:09)
  “Be bold... have enough tools to stop a problem.” (65:13)

• Humor and Honesty:
  “I've written a book about beeping. I'm like, oh, again, you're the 90th person to do that. What a unique idea you've had…” (73:36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Melissa’s Early Life & Career: 04:00–18:10
• Diagnosis Journey: 18:09–27:20
• Hospital Experience and Technology Introduction: 27:26–34:08
• Podcast, Self-Education & Bold Beginnings: 40:26–46:53
• Tactics for Device Anxiety & Parenting: 47:04–50:56
• Reflections on Family, Relationships, and Support: 54:46–58:10, 83:00–84:49
• Melissa’s Pro Tip: Be Bold With Insulin: 64:09–65:13
• Discussion on Free Resources vs. Paid Coaching: 77:05–80:19

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Takeaways for Listeners

• You can achieve solid diabetes management early, even as a “newbie,” by leveraging community resources, technology, and a proactive attitude.
• Don’t let fear hold you back—be bold with insulin, learn as you go, and use available tools like the Juicebox Podcast’s Pro Tip and Bold Beginnings series.
• Device anxiety is common in young children—distraction, positive attitude, and creativity can help.
• Don’t downplay Type 1; empathize and support families navigating the emotional and logistical hurdles.
• Technology and community matter. But nothing replaces being hands-on, persistent, and a little bit bold.

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Closing & Contact

• Melissa’s final wish: Her story brings hope to newly diagnosed families—“You don't have to be a veteran…to get good management.”
• Resource mentions: Juicebox Podcast website, private Facebook group, and future plans for structured, accessible education such as a free “21-day course” for new listeners.

For community, conversation, and resources, visit JuiceboxPodcast.com or join the Facebook group: Juicebox Podcast Type 1 Diabetes.

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Transcript

[A]

Here we are back together again, friends, for another episode of the Juice Box Podcast.

[B]

Hi, I am Melissa and I am mom to a 4 year old type 1 diabetic.

[A]

Nothing you hear on the Juice Box Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. Always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or becoming bold with insulin. If you're looking for community around type 1 diabetes, check out the Juice Box Podcast. Private Facebook group Juice box podcast type 1 diabetes but everybody is welcome. Type 1, type 2 gestational loved ones it doesn't matter to me. If you're impacted by diabetes and you're looking for support, comfort or community, check out Juice Box podcast type 1 diabetes on Facebook. Foreign. Today's podcast episode is sponsored by Medtronic Diabetes, who is making life with diabetes easier with the mini med 780G system and their new sensor options, which include the Instinct sensor made by Abbott. Would you like to unleash the full potential of the MiniMed 780G system? You can do that at my link medtronicdiabetes.com Juicebox Today's episode is also sponsored by the Contour Next Gen blood glucose Meter. Learn more and get started [e-mail] juicebox testing. Can you say testing?

[B]

Testing.

[A]

Awesome. That's working. Now you won't be the next Victor Garber. Go ahead, introduce yourself the way you want to be known. I don't think you need your last name if you want to use it. I wouldn't stop you.

[B]

Oh no, I. Okay.

[A]

You're like, no, I won't be telling people my last name. Thank you for bringing it up.

[B]

All right, well, here goes. Hi, I am Melissa and I am mom to a 4 year old type 1 diabetic.

[A]

How long has your 4 year old. First of all, hello, Melissa. And hello. How long is your 4 year old had type 1?

[B]

1 year this past weekend.

[A]

I just this morning interviewed a gentleman from England who's I think 16 month older, has had it for like four months now or something like that. Geez, she like. He told me a story that while he was telling me he got choked up. I stopped him and I said, listen, if it makes you feel better, I'm crying too. So it was just this terrible extra when it's like a little kid, just hard to hear, I think.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Well, today might be a day for tears because you might get choked up. It's hard for me to still talk about it sometimes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Which it's only been a year so I think that's fair.

[A]

Yeah. How old are you?

[B]

How old am I? What year is this? 42.

[A]

You're 42, but you have a 4 year old?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

How old were you? Got married?

[B]

Not yet. Actually. Getting married this August.

[A]

How old were you when you let that boy make you pregnant? 38.

[B]

38 with that one. But then.

[A]

Melissa, you're gonna be fun. We're okay. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which time?

[B]

18 month old.

[A]

Oh, yeah. With. With. Oh, wait a minute. How many kids do you have?

[B]

Two and no more.

[A]

Same guy. You said it like you were like. It was just such, such a. Such a flex, like, same guy.

[B]

Well, I mean, I'm not married, so that's like, obviously everyone's first question gotta be.

[A]

You know what I mean? So. Yeah, but so had you. Had you been married prior?

[B]

Nope.

[A]

What happened? What. How did. May I dig in? What happened?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Unburden yourself, Melissa. What happened in your life that you didn't meet a guy until you were 38 that you would even let do that and then you didn't marry him right away? Like, how'd you get to all that?

[B]

So I think. Well, I know I'm like a little bit weird in a. I think, I think in a good sense, but I don't know, I've had a couple, what, three, like decent length relationships, but I was engaged once in my very early 20s, and then that was a. It was very obvious mistake. So.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Broke that off early on.

[A]

And then what, what's the next long relationship?

[B]

Let's see, my late 20s, I was. I had friends that had kids right out of high school. And I, at that point, like, I always wanted kids and I always wanted to have the, you know, happily ever after, but I was just having fun. Like I worked in a restaurant, we went out to the bars every night. You know, it was just good time.

[A]

I. I've been married for 30 years this summer. I don't know if I. I don't know if I have a happily ever after is what I was just.

[B]

Well, I've come to realize that maybe it's not like. I mean, not all the time. I'm very happy.

[A]

Sure. Yeah, me too. We were watching the Boys last night and Arden. Arden says if mom had Homelander's powers, you'd be dead. Oh, I said, you're right. You're probably right. So, okay, early 20s. Melissa, how was she? How was she? Quirky.

[B]

I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but. Okay, I hope it does. I was.

[A]

But go ahead.

[B]

Yeah, that's true. Whatever. I was very tomboyish like, played softball my whole life. I ended up becoming a plumber by trade. And then I. I always had guy friends and not, like, girlfriends. It was kind of a running joke that I was a lesbian by other people, not me. I'm like, no, no, I promise. Like, women are great. Love them. They're beautiful. Yeah. Nice boobs. But no, I don't want to touch them.

[A]

Not down for that.

[B]

But.

[A]

But.

[B]

But you. You.

[A]

You, as the kids say, coded gay.

[B]

Yes, very much so.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then. And then. How was late 20s Melissa Corky? Did it change at all?

[B]

Maybe a little bit. I think I got a little more reserved, in a sense, because I was in, like. I don't want to say a shitty relationship. It was. It. Yeah. It ended up being not. It was. He was a little mentally abusive. Never physical. He had just small digs. Small digs. So it kind of shut me down some, I think.

[A]

Wait, you said small digs, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. All right. It wasn't. So it's like, what is she. It's like, what is she about to say? So. So wait, so he would, like, what? Like, just try to. Looking back, you feel like he was trying to keep you down a little bit or change you or. What do you think was happening?

[B]

Um, yeah, I think he was trying to keep me more, I guess, submissive, maybe, in a sense to thoughts and

[A]

ideas or sexually or. What do you mean?

[B]

Yes, all.

[A]

All the above.

[B]

Yeah. Looking back, like, of any ex I've ever had, like, I'm still. I don't want to say friendly, but, like, I don't have hatred towards. Like, if I saw them, I'd be like, oh, hey, how's it going? If I saw this guy, I'd probably find a rock or something and throw at him.

[A]

Like, was his mom domineering towards him?

[B]

Do you.

[A]

Do you have any idea why? He felt like he needed to control somebody, so. Okay.

[B]

I don't. So I believe. Let's see, if I remember correctly, his dad was actually out of the picture because he was in prison.

[A]

Oh, that's one of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's one of the things that get.

[B]

Yeah. So he did grow up with a stepdad, and, like, I think I only met his parents once, and that was a surprise on them. We drove from the Midwest to Virginia, and then when we got there, they're like, oh, who's this? I'm like, oh, cool. You didn't tell your family I was coming.

[A]

Awesome. Do they know who I am even? Why is this so weird?

[B]

They did not.

[A]

Oh. How long had you been dating when he drove you across the country to spring on them that you were.

[B]

Probably two years.

[A]

Oh, my God. Really? Now when that happens. Yeah. You're standing in Virginia and you realize all this, you go, okay, I guess I'll break up with him as soon as we get home.

[B]

No, because I think at that point I was so, like, already beaten down. Not physically, but, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know? But, yeah, I think I was just. And, like, he had two small children that I was, like, in love with, so that was part of the.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Part of the reasons that I stuck around.

[A]

Can I tell you what I told a lady the other day while we were recording?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

If somebody else didn't like it, you might not like it either. You know what I mean? Like, like.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Careful. You know, I. I don't want to generalize because there are plenty of women who are horrible. But. But, you know, girls, like, I have a. My daughter's 2020. Please be careful. You know, when they're. When they're yelling. That's not okay. You know when you're making up excuses for them all the time? Not okay. You know, when they seem really, like, perfect, but they've been divorced three times, Right? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anyway, well, I'm sorry. That sucks. But. But okay. But how were you quirky, then? Because you. You said I was a little weird. You mean weird like coded lesbian, but we're straight. No.

[B]

I guess. Let's see. Weird. I don't know. I say I don't have much of a filter, so, like, those. A lot of those thoughts that some people just internalize and keep to themselves, I would, like, say out loud.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like,

[A]

I couldn't even come up with anything. Melissa. I say things constantly that people look at me strangely about. I have no idea what they're talking about.

[B]

That's true. When I listen to your podcast, I. There are many times where you've said something and my eyes are just like, whoa. Oh, okay.

[A]

But you would. But you would. But you would say it.

[B]

Absolutely, yeah.

[A]

How come it's okay for you and not for me?

[B]

It's not. I mean, it is okay. It's just I'm not used to other people being the same.

[A]

I. It's. And I. By the way, I'm not a person who says, like, oh, I know that I'm being offensive or outside of what people say usually, but too bad. Deal with it. Like, I'm not. I feel like that at all. I genuinely don't see what's wrong with it. And I don't mean, like, I don't understand the world. I don't understand why we can't talk like that. I really don't. Like, I, I think everybody would be better off if they just said what they thought and everybody knew how everybody felt and we were being honest about things we weren't. You know, like, one of my favorite things that happens on the podcast is people will come on and talk about their horrible healthcare and then I'll ask them about the doctor. And I go, oh, the doctor's fantastic. And I'm like, I don't understand. Like, you just described like multiple things going wrong with your health that could easily be helped by somebody else. And I, I assume you're about, like, when someone does that and I ask the follow up question, my assumption is they're going to explain to me what their doctor's not doing, how it would be more helpful for them if they did these things so that it can be like a learning experience for other people. But instead what they go is, no, he's great. I'm like, that's not possible. It's like if I told you before we got on, like, there was somebody here painting a wall in my house. Imagine if he showed up and I paid him and when he left, the wall wasn't painted and I said, how's the painter? And he went, oh, he's terrific.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I don't, I don't get that at all. But nevertheless, I, I don't think that words hurt people.

[B]

I agree with that. Yes.

[A]

So, I mean, you can choose to be hurt by them, I guess, but I, I mean, I've had people say pretty terrible things about me and I'm still okay.

[B]

Hey, same.

[A]

Yeah, I, well, trust me, I get it more than you do, probably because my things.

[B]

Yeah, you talk to more people than you do.

[A]

Yeah. My things in the world. You know what I mean? So anyway, okay. Right now, early 30s, Melissa.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

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[B]

when I became a plumber. My stepdad was a plumber and asked me I was doing the waitress thing and they were like oh what are you going to do with your life? Blah blah blah. And I'm like I don't know, I like waitressing. And then he was like hey, you want to help me put in a water softener one day? And I'm like yeah, why not? So I went, he had me using a flame and soldering stuff and I'm like well this is cool. And yeah, that became my, my trade for about 10 years.

[A]

10 years. Like, like working on your own or you worked for a house or what?

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I worked. Well, his, his company, okay, the family company.

[A]

But they could put you in a van, send you to someone's house. You could swap out a hot water heater, plumb A new construction thing, stuff like that?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Huh. And you learned that all on the job?

[B]

Yes, well, I went through the whole, like, four year apprenticeship also.

[A]

Oh, you did?

[B]

But, yeah. Yeah.

[A]

But why'd you stop doing that then? Cause, you know, it. Was it because of the joke about the lesbian laying pipe? Was that it?

[B]

Oh, no, because I. I was so. I learned very early on that you had to give all the guys their, like, more shock than what they will say to you. Oh, you won't get. Yeah, I was.

[A]

Oh, okay. So if you're quiet and demure, they're going to be rude around you, but if you can be. If you can be worse than them, it shuts them down.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yes.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But you didn't mind that dynamic?

[B]

No, because it was great. Because that's like, I was able to say whatever I wanted in, like, the most harsh, not safe for work way. Like, it was kind of.

[A]

Kind of freeing. You couldn't say that in the restaurant when you were like.

[B]

No.

[A]

Bringing people their pancakes. Yeah.

[B]

No. No.

[A]

Interesting. No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right. So you're so. I mean, you're not weird, you're just. What? You're. You're outspoken, maybe? Is that how people would think of it? I. By the way, I don't.

[B]

Yes, that would be.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know how regular people describe me, but sometimes when they say stuff, I'm like, I don't see myself that way at all. It's interesting. Okay, so, okay, then you finally meet this guy, the guy that you've allowed to knock you up twice. And on purpose, by the way.

[B]

First time? Yes.

[A]

And so you guys are like, we've been together for a while. We're going to have a baby. We'll get married at some point. Like, that was the vibe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Basically. Yeah.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. Okay, so then make that baby. It pops out. Make another baby. 18 months ago. Wait a minute. First one gets diabetes. How long ago?

[B]

A year ago. Mother's Day weekend of last year.

[A]

Mother's Day weekend of last year. Your. Your toddler still gets diagnosed while you have a newborn.

[B]

She was about what, year? Nine months?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My gosh, not quite a year.

[A]

Okay, so what. What was the, you know, what was the first thing you noticed? What. What got you to the doctor?

[B]

So we had just gone through potty training. So she was peeing a lot anyway, because that was like the whole thing in the potty training. You drink a lot of water. Drink a lot of water. Make you pee. She hadn't peed overnight in A long time. But then she was like peeing out of her pull ups. And then that was probably for a couple weeks. She'd wake up in the middle of the night to go pee. She'd come downstairs and just be like, I need water or I'm hungry. I'm like, why are you hungry at 2am? This makes no sense. And then that last week she had, let's see, Wednesday she was acting normal. Thursday morning she was just like super lethargic. Just like sleepy. Like super sleepy. I'm like, well, maybe she's just, you know, the weather's been nice. Like we've been outside more. Like maybe she's just tired. Yeah, we all get tired. Friday comes and still lethargic. Her eyes seemed a little sunken, still peeing a lot. And there was a lot of confusion. Like she couldn't quite. Like if we asked her a question, it would take her a second and you could tell that she was basically forcing herself to interact with us.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm like, okay, well maybe she's coming down with something.

[A]

Maybe I am. Maybe I am weird. And the kids identified it.

[B]

I know, right?

[A]

She's like, she's like, listen, this lady brings food. So I'm not going to say too much, but you know what I'm saying?

[B]

Basically. Yeah, well. And she's a kid that doesn't complain. Like actually just yesterday morning, like she usually gets up at like 8 yesterday morning, like 6:30. She's, she's like, I'm. I want to go downstairs. And I'm like, let's cuddle. We, we co. Sleep. I'm like, let's cuddle. Usually that's my way of like laying in bed longer. Go back to sleep for a little bit longer, kiddo. So she's like, no, my tummy hurts. I'm like, what? Like you don't complain about things. What is this? So came downstairs, I think she went to the bathroom and then she felt better, but then she was still like, blah. So I took her temperature and it was like 101.9. I'm like, no, this is the first time that we've had a temperature since diagnosis.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I'm like, oh my God, what do I do? What do I do? What do I do? Give her carbs so I can give her insulin.

[A]

Was it even a problem?

[B]

She did have ketones yesterday evening, and then this morning she had moderate, but I think that's just because overnight, because the second pee of the day she was negative.

[A]

Okay, you got ketones with urine?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. There's a cool blood meter that does it too.

[B]

Yeah, I've been. I asked for a prescription because my insurance covers basically everything, but they didn't cover it, so I just haven't bought one yet.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because it hasn't been an issue.

[A]

They don't cover that.

[B]

I know.

[A]

That's interesting.

[B]

I don't know. But.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, so back Friday?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So. Oh, no. Okay. So Saturday morning, it was like, what we're is our Mother's Day. We're gonna do it Saturday because for some reason, they don't do stuff on Sunday on Mother's Day, like, in the towns. So we went to breakfast, and of course, she had waffles and syrup, and she was like, in great spirit. Saturday morning and then waffles and syrup, and then we go to, like, a Mother's Day market afterwards. And walking around and usually she's like. Wants to touch everything, wants to be like, do everything, walk around, run around. Like she's all over the place. Yeah. But she just wanted to sit in the wagon with her baby sister and like, okay, this is. Something is really not right. So we leave there, and it's around that time she falls asleep in the car immediately, but she has very labored breathing. So we're like, okay, let's go home. He stays home with the baby. I take her to the er. And it was like, as we're checking in, like, I didn't even finish giving them all the information, and they're like, why don't you come back to triage? Like, skipped the waiting room, went straight back. Um, there was one nurse that was, like, doing all the vitals. He's like, before we do anything, we're just gonna do a blood sugar test. And I'm like.

[A]

Immediately I'm like, oh, you thought diabetes?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I had, you know, the old Google and chatgpt.

[A]

In your family at all?

[B]

Yeah, I had my dad's sister. So my aunt, she was diagnosed in the 70s, in her 30s. She only is 15 later. 15 years later that she ended up passing in her mid-40s. Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

From the diabetes?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Lost digits, fingers, toes, lost her eyesight. I'm guessing that she. It was undiagnosed for a long time, but that was a long time ago too.

[A]

It also type 1. It could only go undiagnosed for a certain amount of time. At some point. It's more about using enough insulin for what you're eating, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and those. I don't know how with her being blind. I don't know how. I don't understand how they did. I don't get it. I don't. My mom's tried to tell me some stuff, and I'm like.

[A]

About how they manage. It could even.

[B]

It does not make sense to me that they were able to, like, manage anything back then. Like, it's hard enough now. Like.

[A]

Like, I have cutting edge technology and this is very difficult. Yeah. Imagine the seventies. God, is that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. I almost thought, how long ago was that? But I know how long ago that was because of how old I am. And that's, you know.

[B]

Right. Yeah.

[A]

55 years.

[B]

And she was blind.

[A]

Like, wait, the whole time or from the diabetes.

[B]

I. She lost her eyesight very early on.

[A]

Really? Yeah.

[B]

Like, had a CNI dog and everything. Like, when I say. I said, like, they took her eyeballs out.

[A]

Oh, she had.

[B]

She had glass eyeballs.

[A]

No kidding. Gosh, that's a tough life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she was a nun. Even worse.

[A]

No kidding.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How do you.

[A]

Well, never mind. Are you guys. Are you guys Catholic? The whole family?

[B]

Yeah. I mean. Yes.

[A]

Yes, we are. Thank you.

[B]

Baptized Roman Catholic. Yes. But I am probably the. I've got four siblings. I'm really. I don't. I'm not. Not practicing particularly religious.

[A]

I. I wish I was a nun so that when people offer me things, I could say, none for me, thanks.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I think I would just do. I think I would do cringy stuff like that all day long. I really.

[B]

I don't sing.

[A]

Yeah. I think I would do it pretty much all the time. Wow. Okay. So it's a little bit in your background. The doctor says blood sugar check, you know, diabetes, it all kind of falls together for you then, what you've been seeing, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it was still very shocking because I was, you know, in denial. But. Yeah. Her. When they. When he showed me the thing, it was 6.95. And I was like. And there were like three other nurses right there. And. Because the teaching hospital. But they were. I'm not saying they were excited, but they were all like. You could tell. They're patting themselves on the back a

[A]

little bit because they knew we're figuring it out.

[B]

And they weren't. They weren't being like, rude about it or anything, but it was just like. I could tell that they were like, yay. Yeah, we figured it out immediately.

[A]

They see you more like.

[B]

That was the first time. Yeah. Yeah, that was the very first time. Like, the one nurse that took her blood sugar Was like, you need to listen to the juice box podcast.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I'm like, do what? Yes.

[A]

Somebody just told.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Can you imagine the ridiculousness of what I've built? You're in a. You're in an emergency room. Somebody just told you your 4 year old has type 1 diabetes, and they're like, here's a podcast for you. You're like, did that seem strange? It did, right?

[B]

Well, looking back, yeah. I mean, at the time I was like, sure. I don't know what you're. I don't. I don't listen to podcasts. I don't like podcasts.

[A]

I'm not a podcast person.

[B]

I do not like podcasts. But this one applies to me, so.

[A]

Yeah, Turns out you just needed the right one, that's all.

[B]

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

There's got to be a podcast for girls who plumb.

[B]

My sister has tried to tell me, like, many times, like, you need to do a YouTube channel. You need to do Tik Tok. You need to do all this. That. And I'm like, I probably should, like,

[A]

oh, girl, like, showing you how to, like, do plumbing stuff.

[B]

Yeah. She's like, you could be called the ponytail plumber.

[A]

You know that only works one way with today's Internet, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tank top is involved, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Only fans.

[A]

What does the world come to? Wow. Okay, so kids diagnosed in the hospital and somebody says, listen to the podcast. You assume don't, like, download it right

[B]

away, but second day, I did. Second day in the hospital.

[A]

Tell me, how'd you go from person

[B]

to tell me, oh, wait, no, you're fine.

[A]

No, no, I'll start over. So, like, yes, you go from day one of, like, I don't listen to podcast to day two. Okay, give it to me. What happens in that 24 hours?

[B]

Because there are about three other people that told me to listen to the podcast.

[A]

Oh, in the hospital or in your life?

[B]

Yes, in the hospital.

[A]

What hospital?

[B]

One in my life.

[A]

What hospital is this?

[B]

It's in South Bend, Indiana.

[A]

All right. Hey, thanks, everybody. What's up, guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah, invite me out. I'd love to do a talk.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah. Not during tornado season. Is that where there are tornadoes?

[B]

Occasionally we do, yes. More in the country. Not really in town so much.

[A]

Okay. I saw a house in Indiana the other day. You know how, like, if you look at one house, eventually your Instagram will just show you new houses?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

This. It was a mansion, and the price was so low. And I'm like, I don't understand what's happening. And then I clicked through and there's, like, Indiana. Oh, I got it. Oh, usually that's west Texas. You ever see the west Texas house?

[B]

Oh, my God, yes.

[A]

You know, right?

[B]

So jealous.

[A]

How would you like to live in a mansion for $12? I would. Thank you. Where do I have to live? West Texas. Oh, okay. Sounds dry.

[B]

I mean, I like warm weather, so I'll tell you.

[A]

I'm gonna move south. If these people stop arguing with me, I'm going to Tennessee. By these people, I mean my children and my wife.

[B]

My brother has a house in Tennessee.

[A]

Does he?

[B]

Yeah, he owns an Airbnb.

[A]

I seriously am thinking about leaving.

[B]

Hook you up.

[A]

Yeah, no, I don't mean for now. I want to leave. Like, I want to sell my house and go there and live.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it's. It's nice.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

It's pretty. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Have you not been?

[A]

Yeah, I've been once. I went once, looked at a house and said, that's fine. I'll stay here. Thank you. I'm very easy to get along with.

[B]

It's. Honestly, if you don't like snow, besides, maybe once every few years, it's great.

[A]

I don't want snow.

[B]

Mild. Mild winters, mild summers, from what I understand.

[A]

Yeah. This is what I'm looking for. Somewhere where some of my animals could live outside even, maybe. Right, buddy?

[B]

Ooh, yeah.

[A]

How'd you like to live outside? He can't understand me. He's a dinosaur. But anyway, I'm sorry. So a number of people come up to you in the hospital, say, hey, give it a try. You're like, oh, hell, okay, I guess I will. And then what's the rest of the time in the hospital? Like, what happens when you get out? Do they start you with technology? I want to know about that stuff.

[B]

So the hospital, we were. Okay. So we were there. Admitted Saturday. We ended up being discharged Tuesday evening. I mean, it's a whirlwind of information. So it was like, ah. And I had it in my mind that, you know, she's gonna go back into dka, like, as soon as we get home. Like, ah, this is. It was. You know, as with everyone, it's very scary.

[A]

Frightening. Yeah.

[B]

We left with a Dexcom. Thank God. I don't like when people talk bad about Dexcom. I almost take it personally because I'm like, this is like, that's my buddy. Like, stop talking about my buddy that way. I love my Dexcom. Like, it's a lifesaver. So there for all the. All the Teaching all the education. I end up. My. My sister is an ER doctor down in Indianapolis and she was like the first person next to my kid's dad. The first person I contacted when we were in the hospital and she's like, oh, like, did they say dka? I'm like, yeah, that's. Yeah, that would be basically the first thing they said. So she was like, kind of a driving force of getting me into an endo down at Riley Hospital, which is like the big children's hospital in Indiana. Um, and when. When the diabetes educator of the hospital we were in was like trying to get us an appointment, because they wouldn't let you discharge until you had an appointment with an endo.

[A]

That's probably good.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like, I hear all these stories of them, like hospitals just letting people go. And I'm like, that is not my experience.

[A]

They're like, go see an endo. How am I supposed to. You'll figure it out.

[B]

And yeah. So they were like, oh, well, you can't get into Riley. That's usually like months wait. And I'm like, well, let me, let me try. And so then like, I got in touch with my sister and her. One of her good colleague friends was the ER doc at Riley Hospital. And she's like, hey, you need to get my sister's daughter in. And she just emailed the endo and was like, hey, send a call them and set up an appointment. So they called me and we got in that next week and it was when the educator at our hospital tried calling, it was like a four month wait. And they're like, you're not going to get in. You're not going to get in. I'm like, well, I have an appointment next week.

[A]

So a four month wait.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's really something, isn't it?

[B]

Because she was so young. Yeah, because she was three and a half at the time. And there. That was the closest that had a pediatric for under four. No one else would see her. Like, that was local.

[A]

Did you have to travel?

[B]

Almost.

[A]

Do you still travel to go to Orendo once?

[B]

We've been down there twice, but they're totally fine art. Like, my management has been, I think, stellar.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So we've been doing zoom and they're. They're able to need blood work.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, and they can do that locally where you are really, you don't need to travel for that. What do you mean you're. The management's been stellar. How long? She had to hype one now. Year.

[B]

A year.

[A]

Okay. And. And what. What are outcomes like, so far?

[B]

Oh, let's see. I wrote all this down. Cause I knew you were going to ask. Um, so currently her. The GDI or whatever it is on Dexcom has her at 6.67.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

And we average around 144.

[A]

Wow, that's great.

[B]

Time in range 79%.

[A]

79%. She's not in school right now yet, right?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. And you. Are you home with her?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. I was going to ask you, what did you do after the plumbing?

[B]

So I went from doing the manual labor to working at a plumbing wholesaler, so. So instead of installing toilets, I sold the toilets.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And that is where I met my man. He was. He was my boss.

[A]

Is he older than you?

[B]

A little bit.

[A]

Is it inappropriate? It's like six years. I was gonna say, is it. Was this inappropriate? Would HR not enjoy this if they

[B]

heard about it at first? No, but we actually, I. I worked there up until I had my first kid.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The. The diabetic. And we. He was so terrified to contact his, like, the own. It's a family run. I mean, it's a big company in Indiana, but it's a family run. But he was very nervous to tell

[A]

them that he knocked up the girl that works at the front desk.

[B]

Yes. Basically. Yeah.

[A]

Don't worry. We did it on purpose, right?

[B]

Yeah, basically. Did you have to sign something? No.

[A]

No. Okay. Okay.

[B]

No. But they were like, totally. Like, is it. Is it. Is this a healthy thing? Is this. Is this, like, you're not gonna get in trouble? The company's not gonna get in trouble? He's like, no. Like, we're like. We've lived together since COVID Like, she's

[A]

not here against their will.

[B]

We're going on, like, five years being together. And they're like, okay, great.

[A]

Awesome.

[B]

Send us pictures.

[A]

Yeah. Leave us out of it. Thank you.

[B]

Basically. Basically.

[A]

Well, you know, the truth is, is that. And not to pivot in a really crazy direction, but I think a large percentage of people meet their mates at work.

[B]

How else do you meet people?

[A]

I don't know. Like, I. I remember graduating from high school. My cousin goes, that's the last time you'll meet a new girl. And I went, wait, what? And then I was like, oh, he's right. Because we work in a sheet metal shop and there's not girls here, you know? Although I did briefly do something with the daughter of the girl that showed up at the lunch truck. So, I mean, I guess that's a work relationship, right? So I don't feel like that's a thing I ever said out loud.

[B]

But

[A]

seriously though, like, it's. It's hard, you know, like to meet people and then, you know, the. The whole world leaned in a certain direction over the last couple of years now, like, suddenly you're not to talk to anybody or, you know, what if I offend someone or say the wrong thing? You know, in the end, I think it's. If a. If a handsome guy with some money talks to you, it's romantic. And if a creepy guy or if. If a pimply guy with no prospects talks to you, it's creepy. You know, it's sometimes conversation for my brother. Oh, why? Why is he creepy or is he not.

[B]

No, he's not creepy at all. He's great. He's 50 something and he's. He's still. He will be a forever bachelor, but he's come across the. If he is friendly to a woman, then he's being like offensive and sexual harassment. But he's like, how am I supposed to talk to people? Like.

[A]

Yeah, no, no, no. We, we. I think we might have overcorrected in there a little bit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and. And everybody complains. Nobody dates anymore, but you won't let anybody talk to anybody, so.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's gotta be a middle ground somewhere. Which I assume we'll find soon. Once people are completely tired of dating apps, which has gotta.

[B]

The Internet goes away.

[A]

Yeah. Which has gotta be coming soon. I mean, nobody seems to. Everyone who you talk to does not enjoy them, but they feel like they have to use the. The dating apps, so.

[B]

Yeah, that's. Luckily, I've never had to. Yeah, thankfully.

[A]

Oh, no, not you. You're. You think like a boy. You probably just run out there and

[B]

take over, slap everyone on the ass. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Let's get going. Let's sell some toilets, if you know what I mean. So do you guys still work together or you're not. You're not there anymore.

[B]

So this was. This is a. I don't know, not a silver lining work perk, I suppose. I work part time from home, same company.

[A]

You can sell toilets from the house.

[B]

I do like order entry stuff, so.

[A]

That's awesome. Good for you.

[B]

Yeah, right?

[A]

It's a nice little setup. How come my shower was dripping this morning? One steady dream. Is it the handle?

[B]

Did you. So if it were me, I would turn it on and off a few times, like aggressively. And if that didn't fix it, you probably have some dirt kicked up in there.

[A]

Okay. Like in the. Where this. Where the seal is.

[B]

Handle.

[A]

In the handle. All right, well, if you live closer, I'd have you come out and take care of it. I'm definitely not going to do it because all I think of is, like, water just everywhere in the house.

[B]

Oh. I mean, it's a possibility.

[A]

Yeah, that could happen.

[B]

That's. I. So many people are like, oh, hey, can you come over and do this? I'm like, no, no, I can't. I am not insured. I am not licensed at this point. I will not touch any plumbing in your house because if something goes wrong, I will not be helpless.

[A]

You're definitely going to blame.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

And then what am I going to do? Yeah, I hear you. Okay, well, okay. Kid comes home, has good gear. You feel like you're doing well? Tell me how you got to doing well. Like, I mean, was the education at the hospital? Oh, wait, it's not. It's just me. I just had this.

[B]

It's just you.

[A]

This. This happened the other day. I was explaining this to somebody. I'm like, I. I genuinely ask. I want to know what they heard in the hospital. I want to know all this. And then sometimes people are like, oh, I learned it with a podcast. And I was like. And it sounds like I'm asking. So they'll say that, but I really don't know what anyone's gonna say, so I'm glad that's the case. Tell me how you figured it out then. What'd you do?

[B]

Um. So I don't know. So the first. I remember the first episode. I don't remember which one it was, but it was one where it was just like a. Like someone talk. You talking to me like you're talking to a parent or whatever. And, like, the verbiage. I was like, mind you, this is day two.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, I don't. I don't understand. I don't. Okay. This isn't for me. I don't. Maybe down the road. And then a buddy of mine who I used to work at the restaurant with, I had called him, like, that week because he was. He's been. He's type one had been for probably around 20 years or so.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And he's like, you really need to listen to the Juice Box podcast.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

You know, I tried, and it's not for me. He's like. He's like, you have. He's like, there's, like, the bold beginnings. And he's, like, listing down, like, the. The list of the ones of the episodes. And I'm like, I don't know. I'll try. And then he. Oh, oh, are you.

[A]

Are you ordering a toilet?

[B]

Brain fart. I just.

[A]

I thought you were ordering. I thought you were ordering a toilet. I heard typing.

[B]

Oh, no, that's my pen. It's just completely lost track of what I was saying.

[A]

Well, let me talk for a second, because, sure, people who are like, yeah, why don't you not talk as much, but that's fine. I just teared up. Like, the idea that you were in Indiana and your kid gets diagnosed and multiple people in the hospital come up to you and kind of whisper in your ear. Try this podcast. And then you try it. You don't have a good. You know. You know, it's not. Doesn't feel right for you, which I understand. And then you go to a friend who has type one, and that's an adult. It's not a. He's not a nurse. He doesn't work at the hospital. He's the guy living with type 1 diabetes, and he knows the show. And I really felt like, oh, my God. Like, I'm. I really am doing a good thing. Like, it. It's working. Because I can't tell if it's working from here. I don't know if that.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But it's hard. I don't know if that makes sense to people listening because, you know, I mean, if I. If I. If I owned a lawn mowing service, I showed up at your house, and when I was done, I could look back and go, I cut the grass. Like, I see that I did it. You know, I. I can't see what's happening. And so to hear stories like this is. Is really fulfilling. So I appreciate you telling me this. Thank you.

[B]

Hey, anytime.

[A]

So he talks you into it. He's like, stop thinking and do.

[B]

Yeah, well, he was telling me, this is where I lost my thoughts.

[A]

I got you back to it. He was very professional.

[B]

You did?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

[B]

He was trying to explain to me the tug of war, and I'm like, I don't. Like, he kind of makes sense. But then I listened to the episode, and I'm like, oh, I'll be okay. Okay.

[A]

Okay. So it made sense when I said it. Yeah, I've practiced. I know how to do it.

[B]

Yeah, well. And I've listened to a lot of the series, like, since then, like, over and over, because I find that once I, like, listen to it and, like, put it to practice, and then maybe a month later, Go back and listen to it again. I'm like, okay, I get it even more. Yeah.

[A]

You hear something else that makes sense all of a sudden that didn't make sense. Yeah, no, I agree. That is exactly how it works. So you are a podcast person.

[B]

Just this one.

[A]

Is there nothing else you're interested in learning about?

[B]

I've tried other ones. I really, I've tried them like, well, I like this. Maybe I like another one.

[A]

Oh, but the people suck. I can't basically, you know, I'm a talented communicator.

[B]

Yeah, you're a wordsmith.

[A]

It's fun. Thank you. I just laugh because I just. I always imagine that somebody. This is someone's first episode. They're like, what an. Keep listening. You'll learn to like me or you won't. And then you hate listen. And that's good for me too. So whatever you need to do, it's all right with me. Oh, well, that's really wonderful. I'm. I'm thrilled. So you. What you learned about getting settings. I mean, here's my. Here's my hope. I hope that what you heard was nothing works without good settings, and I need to understand the impact of the food, and timing's really important. And then the rest of it just worked out for you.

[B]

I mean, that's the goal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Settings. I think that we are. I think we're pretty okay on settings right now. It's more with her being for, like, it's hard to pre bolus.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when I do get to, it's

[A]

like, how much easier this works.

[B]

Like, I'm really good at bananas. Surprisingly enough, really good with bananas. Because she knows she has to wait about 40 minutes that she wants a banana.

[A]

We're gonna get this. Everything else in the other direction, and then you're gonna eat this banana, just so you know.

[B]

Well, that's. So that's.

[A]

That's really great. Like, I. I was just talking to the gentleman before me, before you, where like I said, he's got like a, you know, 16 month old. And I said, you know, the best thing I can tell you about pre bolusing is if you're remembering to do it, but you're scared because you're not sure what they're going to eat. Put a little bit in and then as soon as you see the rest of it go in, then do it. Just having a tiny bit on your side is a big deal, you know?

[B]

Yes. Yeah.

[A]

I still can't get that through to my own kids sometimes. But by the way, pre Bolting is a difficult thing to, to, to remember to do even, you know.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like that is like she'll eat peanut butter and jelly almost every day. I know that that's 25 carbs. And as like, I'm giving her the plate, a lot of times I'm like, God damn it. I forgot I could have at least gotten a five minute pre bullet.

[A]

But it's tough when you see the difference because there's a huge difference.

[B]

Yes, huge.

[A]

And, and it's, you know, but, you know, and I think that really is the most important part. You have the ideas down and if you don't get to do it every day, that's one thing. But knowing that you should be staying, you know, motivated to, to do better and, and to, to meet those kind of like, measurements. You'll get there. You know what I mean? You really will.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's.

[A]

How does she handle the diabetes? Like, is it. Does it seem impactful to her

[B]

every three and ten days?

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

So. Well, whenever we have to, she's on Omni pod.

[A]

Oh, I know. Sorry.

[B]

Sorry. I had to clear my throat. You're fine. So she. She's fine, basically. I mean, we, we poke her. Do it. Well, we do her toe, not her fingers. But like when we have to poke her toe to double check the Dexcom, she's. She's the one that wants to do it. She's like, can I do it? Can I do it? I'm like, hell yeah, you can do it. I want you to do it. But. And she's gotten a lot better when we change the pods.

[A]

It was scary for her,

[B]

I think. Yeah, scary. I think it was more like this, like, clicking.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

When the anxiety of it.

[A]

The anxiety of it.

[B]

Because she looked like I, I paint the pods with like acrylic paint markers and like, make it look cute. She picks out her stickers. Yeah, she loves all that part. But just, just the last couple weeks, she has not fought to change it like it has for the last year. It has been easier. Her dad holds her and hugs her and she like, screams every time we change a pod. But she was doing that mdi. So I'm like, well, I'll take the once every three days over the.

[A]

Every time.

[B]

Seven times one day.

[A]

Yeah. And do you think it hurts her or do you think she's scared?

[B]

I think she's scared.

[A]

Okay. And you think with the clicking with the pump, it's the anxiety of like, it's coming, it's coming. It's coming.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I have been. So I got one of those, like, percussional massagers to like, like as I'm holding, like, pinching up the skin, like, I'll have her hold the massager on her leg to kind of divert the, the feeling.

[A]

Oh, good idea.

[B]

And we have progressed from there to I just give her like a clicky pen and like, have her hit her leg with the pen.

[A]

Okay. To kind of like make her more like, kind of give her practice at feeling about thinking about it.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I, it is not for me to tell you how Arden accomplishes her GLP shots, but I hope she'll come on here one day and explain it to you because there's a similarity to what you just said with the, with the percussion thing. Yeah. Just kind of confused your brain for a second.

[B]

Great. Yeah. Just divert the, the attention. What's happening? Yeah, I do give my brother. So my oldest brother, the 50 something year old, he, she loves him because he's just, he's a funny guy. Like, he plays with her. She loves him. And we had to change her Dexcom and her POD while he was here a couple weeks ago. And it was the first time that she did not, like, lose her mind because she was like, watch, watch, watch this, watch this, watch this.

[A]

Oh, she wanted to show him.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Well, that's nice.

[B]

Like, she's very, like, she's a, she seems afraid of the devices, but she seems to be also very proud of them because she's always, whenever we're out in public and someone notices, she'll be like, look at my bump. She calls it a bump. She'll be like, look at my bump. Look at my sticker on my phone.

[A]

She's trying to share it with people too.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's nice. That's healthy.

[B]

I try not to be negative about it around her because, you know, they're sponges right now. So she doesn't really hear much negativity about the diabetes. It's more just like she doesn't like changing devices.

[A]

She doesn't like changing devices. Okay. Yeah, well, I mean, it's hard to blame her. I, I, I heard Arden, Arden went out last night with Kelly late. I was like, I was like, where are you guys going? And they said, we're getting going for salad. So it's like 9 o'.

[B]

Clock.

[A]

I'm like, okay. And I don't really ask a lot of questions anymore. I'm like, okay, cool. And, and they took off. They came back in the door and I, I'm Like, Arden's, like, changing her pump. And I'm like, what happened? She said, my. My pod expired. Like, um, blah, blah. And she, you know, stuck it on. I'm not looking at her. She's in another room, but I can hear her, you know, and she just goes, oh, this one's gonna hurt. That's what she said. But I. It was. It's funny because she stuck it on and somehow talked herself into believing that that was a bad spot that she put it. It's interesting, all that little psychological stuff that goes around the insertions of these things. I'm telling you, it's. It's really fascinating because she didn't. She has no idea. Like, that's a senseless statement. Do you know what I mean? Like, if I just randomly put my hand on you somewhere and said, oh, do you think this, when we poke you with a needle, will hurt more or less here than usual? How would you know which. You know what I mean? Like, but she, she had herself believing it would. And then I sat there kind of quietly, you know, during the insertion process. Like, I don't know, it just seems disrespectful to make a ton of noise while somebody's trying to do something like that. And so, like, sat quietly and it installed. And I didn't hear her say anything. And I thought, I wonder if it didn't feel the way she was going to or if it did and she's muffling it and I couldn't. I didn't want to ask her. Like, I didn't want to. Like, it just felt like it would have been the wrong time to ask, you know what I mean? Um, but anyway, it's just. I think it's all very interesting, like, the psychology around the insertions. There's a lot more there than, Than probably people would expect. Well, anyway, that's cool. It's good that she's out showing people her stuff too. I think that's great. Yeah. How does it feel for you when she's putting on? Do you feel sad about it or anxious or does it bother you?

[B]

Um, I. The only time I get feelings about the devices are like, because she's a four year old, she likes to run around with just her underwear on. Like, I'll see, like, her. Her Omnipod and the Dexcom, and I'm like, I'm never gonna see her, like, extremities with no devices. Like, it's always gonna be there. Like, this is very sad. But then she probably, like, kicks her sister or something. That feeling goes away very fast.

[A]

Well, here, maybe. This talk. Arden was. She's. It's. It's finals time. So she's here studying. Her boyfriend was here. He's studying or writing a paper for his final. They're both seniors in college and they're sitting next to each other on the sofa with their laptops. And Arden's pod is on her arm, right arm, maybe, and he's sitting next to her. And I looked over and saw all that, and then I saw the pod. And it was probably my first inclination to feel badly for her, but then I let that go and I said, this guy doesn't seem to care at all. You know, like here. He's been here for a while now, and he. He doesn't seem to have an opinion about it one way or the other. And she doesn't. She's not sitting there right now feeling like, oh, I'm sitting next to this boy, but I have this device on my arm. She's not thinking about that either. So it's more about. I mean, I. I think it's much less about how it feels for you and more about what. How it feels for her. I guarantee. I'm sure, you know, she's probably not going to care, you know. No, it's interesting. How does your husband handle all this? Or you're the guy that you're considering allowing you to marry you after you had two kids? Yeah. That boy,

[B]

he's. It's. He's a great dad and he helps. He's a great dad and a great partner. But I am definitely the caretaker, which is fine. I hyper fixate on things more than he does. Like, he's only. He's. He came home from work to watch her and like, right now her blood sugar is 289, and I have to like, text and be like, hey, bullis, bullets bolus. Don't let it get that high. What are you doing?

[A]

Well, he's like. He's almost 50, right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You're like, yeah, I threw him with an old guy and I didn't think about it back then, but now. But, but, but he's probably. Was he married previous to being with you?

[B]

He. Yes, he was actually when we first started chit chat and he was just finalizing his divorce.

[A]

Oh, are you a home wrecker?

[B]

Yeah. No, no, no.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, no, I met them. I met him after.

[A]

Afterwards. Very nice. That's what I would say. And so. But. But does he have kids? Other kids? No. No. Okay. Well, it's Interesting. It's a. Because it's a late. He's a late and late father.

[B]

Then he and his ex wife had tried, but nothing ever came to fruition.

[A]

Oh. So I think that's part of the reason why they didn't make it.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Interesting. Don't ask too many questions.

[B]

That's. I don't. I don't think he completely knows.

[A]

Oh, someone told him to leave?

[B]

No. Like, I think his wife got kind of weird. I don't. I'm speculating on anything about plumber.

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

What weirdly, like, she got. From what I have gathered, she kind of like, got interested in, like, guns. And like, her personality really changed, I guess. Okay, I. Again speculating. And I can say this because he won't listen to the podcast. He. I think she was cheating on him. But again, speculation.

[A]

Oh, and then some boy got her into guns.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

I see. Oh, I think so. You feel sad for him that he doesn't know.

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah. You're happy he doesn't know.

[B]

I mean, it all worked out in the end for him.

[A]

Yeah. Because you're so wonderful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. Yeah, I agree. Two. Two great kids. One with a stupid chronic disease, the other one's a little psycho. And you know me, who might be going through perimenopause. Not sure. But maybe.

[A]

You'll know when. When. When the ceiling fan is. Is. Is cooling the room to minus two. And you're like, it's so warm in here. And he's.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Hiding under the bed. My. My wife. The other. It's now a running joke in my house that when we get in bed at night, I put the blanket over my head to keep the air off of me. It's like, too. It dries my eyes out. I sit there, I'm like, there's so much air. Like, what is it?

[B]

What is it? A wind tunnel.

[A]

And the thermostat for the upstairs is in our room. So, like, nobody else is heated or cooled properly because our room is always reading it, like, you know, frigid temperatures. So, you know, either the heat's running way too much for the rest of the house or the air conditioner never comes on for anybody else. Depending on the time.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And everyone's just very happy to think that this maybe will be over soon. But it's been years now. Not been fun, have you?

[B]

I. I'm not looking forward to.

[A]

Don't forget to ask about the estrogen patches at some point. If it becomes a thing I will.

[B]

I'm already, like, I need to get on, like, the Lexa pro kick. Like, are you.

[A]

Are you sad?

[B]

I get bouts of unexplained anger.

[A]

Oh, like, go ahead.

[B]

Anyone?

[A]

Does it matter?

[B]

Anything? It could be the high chair that I just walked by and ran into, and I'm just like,

[A]

is this, like, you think hormone shifting?

[B]

I think yes. Yes. Because I do not recall this before having children.

[A]

Tanya, ask about that estreum patch. I don't want to say this like this, because it feels like it would be insulting if she heard it, but my wife is way more normal since she got one of those.

[B]

Yeah, that's. I'm totally for modern medicine, so. I am.

[A]

I mean, it's just. She's been really nice the last year or so. Oh, God.

[B]

Nothing wrong with it.

[A]

No, I'm the exact right and wrong person to make a podcast. I realized that just now. Like, the reason you're all listening is because, like, I can't believe you said that. That's awesome. And. And also, it's going to come back to bite me at some point. This is going to be in a deposition one day.

[B]

I saw nothing. I heard nothing. These are AI Voices. So.

[A]

Your honor, he said I was more normal, and that's one of the reasons why I'm leaving. But, no, she's just. God, every word I reach for seems wrong, but she just seems more balanced, like, less highs and lows kind of thing.

[B]

Yep. Yeah, I. I believe it. I know many. Well, not many. I know enough women that have been on one medication or another, and it's like, wow. Yeah, you're a really great person now.

[A]

I remember hating you before.

[B]

Go there for a while.

[A]

There's this lady in my town. This is, like 10 years old by snowing. She'll hear this, but she was just, like. She was just a. On wheels. Like, nobody liked her. She was. She was just nasty, like, about everything in every situation all the time. Like, times when it just wasn't called for or even necessary. She did a. She did an apology tour after she found out she had hypothyroidism and got on thyroid medication.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

She went around the town and, like, met people and was like, hey, I'm super sorry for how I was before, but turns out my thyroid was super unbalanced, and I feel much better now.

[B]

I did an apology tour to every person I knew that was type one diabetic.

[A]

Oh, how many was that?

[B]

Let's see. One, two, three. At least five people that I was, like, actively Friends with in the last 30 years.

[A]

Wow. What do you live near a power plant? What's going on there?

[B]

I don't know. And so one of the girls that she is a diabetes educator, actually, through the hospital. Through my endo's hospital. And I've known her since high school. She was diagnosed in the 80s when she was, like, two. Two and a half maybe. But, yeah, she was the first person, like, diabetic that I contacted. I'm like, I'm sorry, I don't. Like, she played sports in high school. Like, I remember seeing her pump and, like, you know, I remember seeing her do things like shots and. Or, like, the pump or, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Finger sticks. And I've been like, I. I had no idea. Like, I had no idea. I thought it was just like, you carry insulin, you carry sugar, you take one or the other. Like, who knew? Did she seem to.

[A]

Did she seem to appreciate that?

[B]

Yes. Everyone that I have, and then it's few people through the years that I've known and I have, like, reached out, and I'm like, I'm so sorry for, like, downplaying it. Like, I had an aunt, but, like, she was 2. Or I was 2 when she died, so I don't. Like, I remember her presence. Not so much her. Yeah, I remember her CNI dog.

[A]

Cool dog. Yeah. What was his name?

[B]

Arthur.

[A]

Arthur.

[B]

Yeah. But, yeah, I have apologized to every diabetic that I know, and I'm like, I just. I didn't know. Like, I apologize for the downplay.

[A]

Like, you didn't do it to me.

[B]

You don't know what you don't know. Yeah, but you didn't. No, not at all.

[A]

This is. This was in your own mind.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is totally a me thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No one else.

[A]

Good to hear, though. Like, so now all of us are listening, thinking, oh, everyone is thinking this, right? Maybe. Which is probably not true. Everyone. But I bet you more people than you think are. Are downplaying it in their minds when they're like, oh, they complain all the time about nothing. It's just this, you know.

[B]

Right. Yeah. Like, oh, your blood sugar is high.

[A]

Like, stop complaining. You're like, I can't think. I'm dizzy.

[B]

Oh, you get to drink. You get to eat sugar. Oh, it must be tough. Yeah.

[A]

Look who's complaining about getting chocolate in the middle of the day. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I see. I can see how that could be. That's nice of you to do. It didn't take you long to figure that out, huh?

[B]

No. I mean, it was within a week or two of being discharged from the hospital and I was like, yeah, I need to throw some words out there.

[A]

Good for you. That's very nice.

[B]

Well, what.

[A]

I know this is. Seems late as we've been talking for an hour now, but was there a reason you wanted to come on or have we hit the reason or have I missed anything?

[B]

I'm sure I don't know. I think the main, the only reason, main reason is to give an ounce of hope to like the new, the new diagnoses that you don't have to be like a veteran of diabetes to like get good management. Like we're not perfect, but like the being bold part is like I like again, her blood sugar right now, 271, going angled down. But like, if I were downstairs, I'd probably give her like one and a half units just to like, let's get this going. Like, stop being so high all the time. Like you don't, like, just do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Don't be afraid. Like, you know, go on.

[A]

I'm sorry. Don't be afraid.

[B]

You know how to fix it, right? Like if you, you can, you know how to fix it. Like have a juice box if you get too low. Like, trust the process.

[A]

Yeah. Just be a little bold and. Yeah. And have, have enough tools to stop a problem and. But don't sit there and don't sit and stare at terrible blood sugar's all.

[B]

Yeah. Don't sit at, look at it and be like, why is it doing this? Why, why Just fix it and then figure it out later. Like, just do it. Just do it.

[A]

I'm glad you've come away with that and that you're a 1C. Especially a year in with a, a young kid like that is fantastic.

[B]

Yeah. I can't wait until we can get her like on a normal. Like she eats normal foods on a normal basis.

[A]

Yeah. And what pump is she using?

[B]

Wonderful.

[A]

Omnipod. But Omnipod 5 or Omnipod Dash 5 5. Yeah, I, I'll tell you, that's getting a juj up pretty soon.

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[A]

The AMIPOD 5 algorithm is close to being updated.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

I think that's the thing. You probably shouldn't tell anybody I told

[B]

you I. Mum is the word.

[A]

Trying to think about what I've said and done and been told. Anyway, it's coming. They're going to lower. Have they said this out loud? Hold on, hold on. Let me, let me just, just check here. I've signed a number of NDAs in my lifetime. I don't want to, I don't want to be on the wrong side of any of them. Let's see if I can substantiate. If they've said that, there's no way they haven't said this out loud. Yeah. This is their website, right? Hold on. Yeah. They announced that insulin announces FDA 510K clearance of Omnipod 5 algorithm enhancements that redefine insulin delivery and simplify the bot experience. New 100 target glucose setting offers more custom. Offers more customization and tighter glucose management. Enhanced algorithm helps users remain in automated mode to improve their user experience. But, you know, sometimes you get kicked out of automated. I think that's what it's talking about. Hold on. Most requested new features enabled healthcare providers to more effectively modify diabetes therapy to meet needs of people with diabetes. That sounds like a lot of PR talk. I know the person that wrote that, she's a talented writer, but actually if you saw me in a, a commercial for them recently where I talked about.

[B]

I did, yeah, that.

[A]

The girl that wrote that and she's so good. Everybody's giving me a ton of credit. They're like, you seem so natural. I'm like, you have no idea. What she wrote was so like she wrote in my voice and like, she's really good. You know, I, I, I won't say her name on here, but I'm a big fan of hers. So anyway, yeah, it seems like it's online. So what I will tell you is that you're going to be able to target 100, that they've made enhancements to the algorithm and that I expect that should be out pretty damn soon. And is. Go ahead.

[B]

Is it still going to be the Omnipod5 or is this like.

[A]

No, that'll be on. That's Omnipod 5 with just the zhuzhed up algorithm. I will say this, this, the Interweb says Insulet announced that the Next generation Omnipod 6 will launch in 2007 with clinical studies and FDA clearances targeted for 2026, which means it's in testing now. The updated system will feature a universal pod compatible with all major continuous glucose monitors and advanced adaptive learning algorithms. So it sounds like they're going to judge it again in 2027. That nice?

[B]

It is nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It makes me think of. So my friend that is the diabetes educator, when she was diagnosed, her parent, the doctors had told her parents, like, basically, she's not going to live to her twenties. They say that she is in her Fort.

[A]

Wait, who? They say that to the.

[B]

Her parents when she was in the hot. When she first got diagnosed.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like, two years old. And they're like, don't expect her to live to her 20s. But now, when we were diagnosed, there were so many people that are like, oh, now is the best time to have diabetes. You couldn't have picked a better time. Okay, thanks.

[A]

What about next year? 6 is available. Would that have been a better.

[B]

Right. Yeah, kidding.

[A]

Take their point, though. Like, you know.

[B]

Yes, no, I do. And it's. It's like, I. Technology. I love it. Like, I can't imagine. I cannot imagine doing this without it.

[A]

Yeah, no, I hear you. I think it's going to be. I think these things are going to continue. Hopefully these companies all stay solvent and, you know, and they're. The fight between them for dominance continues because that's. I think, the only thing that keeps them, you know, innovating is the idea that somebody else is going to get ahead of them. So, you know, have them out there fighting with each other, making better stuff, and hopefully that stuff will help everybody be pretty awesome. If.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

If at some point, you know, AI gets a little more involved and maybe you can start making adjustments, you know, maybe there will be an algorithm that makes adjustments on the fly and it's not just reactive to, you know, the way it works right now. I think it's really. It's a, you know, exciting time for sure. It's hard to say you picked the best time because it just sounds like. I know it sounds like. Well, no, I should have picked no time if I was picking.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But that's really where I give it

[B]

to myself, not her.

[A]

Yeah. Can I tell you that I get so many bizarre emails and then you don't answer them and they just keep emailing.

[B]

Really.

[A]

Hi, Juice box podcast type 1 diabetes. Oh, I wanted to send you one final note, which means I've already emailed you three times regarding our neuroscience and yoga conference encore. I completely understand the timing or fit isn't right. I mainly wanted to close the loop and be sure you had the opportunity. Opportunity to take a look. If it's felt aligned to share with your community. Please tell stuff. Please tell your people about stuff that we're doing that we charge money to people for. This is my whole day is like ignoring people who want to take advantage of you guys.

[B]

You sound like a big deal, Mr. Diabetes.

[A]

I might be, but that's not the point. The point is, please stop emailing me because I'm not Going to email you back. And you're really. You're bothering me. And as soon as I teach my. My. My overlord how to, like, just completely take you out of here to scan your emails, I just swear to you, I get. I get bombarded with people who are like, I wrote a book. I did a thing. I made an app. This. Lately, this kid, Boy, every way you can contact a human being, this kid has tried to contact me. Okay? I've made an app. I'm like, I. I like, God bless you. I hope your app helps people. I hope it's one. I don't want to. I don't want to know about it. Like, like, it just. If it works, come tell me then don't tell me about the thing you just launched that you're like, you. I've been at this a long time. This is the 9 millionth app somebody's told me is going to change the face of diabetes for people. And then I ignore it, and then they come at me from a different way. Then they try DMing, then they try this thing, and then they have somebody in their family do it. They try to post in the Facebook group, It gets blocked. They come in with another account, try to do it. It's just exhausting. Just stop. Like, I hope your app is awesome. I wish you a ton of success. You're not selling it through my audience. Like, that's not gonna happen. So, you know, Cause so what? So 50 of you, a hundred of you can pick a flyer on this app that. That person makes a bunch of money, and then the app falls apart six months from now, and it's gone like every other one of them ever has. I've. I've seen apps by big, like, backed by companies that don't last. Like, you in your living room, like, make it work. And then tell me about. Come back and tell me. I've. I've 10,000 users. Then I'll say, well, let me hear about your app, because that sounds valuable to people anyway. And I know you wrote a children's book. Leave me alone. Okay,

[B]

I'm happy Facebook page.

[A]

Don't do that either. You're not allowed to do that either.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[A]

You can't sell in the Facebook group. It's not a billboard. It's a Facebook group to help people with their diabetes.

[B]

Or they can start their own Facebook group.

[A]

Yeah, do that. Leave me alone. I've written a book about beeping. I'm like, oh, again, you're the 90th person to do that. What a unique idea you've had, by the way. I genuinely, one on one, if you came up to me on the street like, hey, I wrote a children's book, I'd be like, that's really cool, and I'd be interested in hearing more about it. But it's not a podcast episode. It's a thing you say once for three seconds and I go, okay, now what do we do? So, you know, what do we do for the next 59 minutes? Anyway, I don't like people. You know, listen, it's not here to, like, shill too. I already do plenty of shilling with the, with the advertisers. You don't need more.

[B]

Oh, right, yeah. I don't skip through those ever.

[A]

Thank you. I really, I, I listen, truth be told, like, and I, I, I work with some really great people, people who are out there really fighting for you guys behind the scenes. You would have no idea. And you probably don't believe it, but they're really. Some companies are loaded with type ones in their departments, and so people are out there really trying hard, and they're lovely people, et cetera. But if you asked me, if you gave me a magic wand and said, would you like to make the podcast with or without ads? I'd say, oh, God, without, please. Like, you know, like, it's a whole, like, like most of my life is spent, you know, talking to advertisers and then setting up business arrangements and making sure that they're happy and, you know, making sure that I can keep making the podcast. It's, it's a lot, and I don't want to be doing it.

[B]

It's a necessary evil.

[A]

Yeah. It also doesn't change the podcast at all. Like, the content inside. Like, I'm not doing anything differently. I mean, God, can you imagine if this is me tamped down? So, like, you know, I'm not doing anything differently or holding my tongue on anything. So it does. That part doesn't matter to me. It's just the rest of it. And the invoice, you send it. I got a note the other day. It's May 14th. I got a note the other day from one of my advertisers, and I sent them an invoice on January 2nd.

[B]

Oh, geez.

[A]

It's not paid yet. I'm still, I gotta pay my. I got, I still. My electric bill comes every month. You know what I mean? And then you're just like, hi, are you gonna pay this invoice? Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's coming, it's coming. Okay. Or somebody reaches out and they're like, hey, we want to buy ads. I'm like, that's great. Like, you know, there's time considerations. We don't have a lot of space left. Like, this is gonna be. You don't hear back from em. Like six weeks later, they're like, hey, we're ready to go. I'm like, well, now I'm not ready.

[B]

Start the process over, guys.

[A]

Come on, start over. Like, the podcast is made in advance. Like, there's an episode that's up today that, you know, was probably. I probably put it online four weeks ago, and it sits in a queue and waits for its turn to go up. Like, you can't put an ad on that one. You needed to put an ad on that one eight weeks ago, not today. So then they're like, well, we want our ads to start running in June. I'm like, well, then you should have reached out in April. But you know this already because we've worked together in the past. And then suddenly it's like, anyway, all that. I'm not complaining. Like, I used to work in a sheet metal shop. You. You've been a plumber. You know what I'm talking about. Like, it's, I'm fine with it, like, but it's just like, it's a lot like, and, and it's not their fault either, by the way. They're. They've got stuff on their end that's holding them up and, and whatnot. But nevertheless, this is. I'm not. Can you imagine if I was complaining about making a podcast, Jack? And maybe I'm an asshole. I mean, honestly, it's so easy, like, compared to like a real, like a real job. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Can I ask you a question? I feel like we're done. I just don't want to ask you a question real quick because you're pretty newly diagnosed. If I were to put like a 21 day kind of self guided thing together to help you through the Pro Tip series, do you think you would have used that like once a day? Like, got a little, like, affirmation, a little thing to think about, got you ready for the next day, and then you just stepped through it at your own pace?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

That would have helped. I'm not gonna charge for it. Like, I know people are like, oh God, he's trying to find a way to make money. Like, I'm absolutely free. Like, I'm not. I'm. I wouldn't ask it.

[B]

I don't know if it would have been like more or less help, but at this point, like anything, I think it changes so often. Like the diabetes changes so often that anything, any new tip that I can like try to soak in and heck

[A]

yeah, even just to like be like, it's very, I don't know, I, I, what I'm trying to do is like, I know I'm not trying not to out anybody. I certainly think people should be able to make a living any way they want to. But there are people selling coaching stuff for diabetes. It's really expensive and oh yeah, and there's it, it's just they, they don't know anything different than I know. You know what I mean? And, or that anybody else knows or that you maybe couldn't figure out by Googling. If you try at this point you Google the podcast. Pre is where, where Google's getting it from. So like you can get it anywhere you want really. But, but in the end it seems like they're charging people to hold their hand and, and I, again, I don't like that idea. Like I, I prefer if you've got to keep your money cuz diabetes is already tough enough and, and so I, I thought, well, why don't I just set something up that does that but then just not charge anybody for it, Just let them have it.

[B]

I mean. Yeah. Why Gatekeeper.

[A]

I, well, I mean I have bills but like I, I make money, I'm okay. Like, I don't need to make more. You know what I mean? Like I don't need another dollar from, I mean there are times I, I almost, I, I daydream about what if Everybody just sent $5 one time? And then I could just maybe move to an island. But that's fine. That's not what I'm, I don't want that intent.

[B]

Everybody.

[A]

What are you doing? Put some money in the mail. My God.

[B]

Right?

[A]

No, but although somebody told me recently what they paid for coaching and I was like stop in the middle of the conversation. I'40 bucks right now. This is ridiculous, right? I was like, how much are they making? But I just think it's, you know, I don't know, I, I worry that somebody wouldn't use it, but the idea would be that you kind of like join a class and you start when you want to start. And every day you get an email for like 21 days. And that email just kind of lays a little idea out for you, you know, gives you a little bit of an Affirmation, a thing to think about and, and the episode to listen to if you want, but you don't even have. Just take that into the next day and, you know, do a. Noticing an affirmation, you know, an optional deeper dive and then on and on and on like that to kind of help walk you through the kind of. The big ideas of the podcast in the Pro Tip series, for example.

[B]

Yeah, I think as a newbie, that would probably be because I. I didn't know at the very beginning, like, where to start. I mean, Bold Beginnings, that wasn't obvious enough, but apparently at the time, I think that would be. If you had something like that aimed towards, like, the. The newly diagnosed. Yeah, it would be very. I mean, yes, Bold Beginnings is very obvious, but. And I think your website's different now than what it was.

[A]

I've changed a year ago. It's much better now. And.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. And I just, actually just had added like a clinician share portal to it, so, like, doctors can go to this one link and print out handouts or. So I just went to it so I could look at it, but I could click here, print a handout for a patient. It'll. It'll print the Bold Beginning series. I could also click email, text, or copy and get that same information texted, emailed, or copied. So the doctors who are, like, trying to share it with people, but are end up, like, whispering into their ear or tell them to go find something. Yeah, they could actually give this to you now. And it's. It's. It's a very simple thing to do.

[B]

And.

[A]

And then if you scroll down farther, every series in the podcast offers that same sharing thing at the bottom, but at the top it's Bold Beginnings Pro Tips, Small Sips Defining Diabetes. That's it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So hopefully people will try it. I don't know, but I'm thinking maybe, maybe I'm gonna add this, this bit to it about the. The walkthrough. So I'm in the middle of it. I'm kind of crafting it right now, so we'll see. But I appreciate your time.

[B]

It's a great idea.

[A]

Thank you. I'm full of good ideas. I just am by myself.

[B]

You're kind of smart.

[A]

I am. Don't tell people.

[B]

I kinda.

[A]

Kinda don't tell people. It's embarrassing.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

All right, listen, Melissa, you were fantastic. I appreciate you doing this for me.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Good luck with the kid and the

[B]

marriage when we get married August 22nd.

[A]

Oh, big thing.

[B]

Yeah. Kind of. I mean, like 150, 180 people. Ish.

[A]

Sounds big to me.

[B]

Yeah, I like that. Expensive.

[A]

Expensive. Yeah. We'll tell them to bring money, but say don't. Yeah, I don't need a dish. I need. I need. I need a couple hundred bucks in that card. Basically cover your meal, plus a little more people. You know how to do it?

[B]

Yeah, it's like 35 bucks ahead. Come on, just.

[A]

Is that what it costs, money?

[B]

Yeah, that's kind of like the low end.

[A]

Okay, I think, then I like. If you bring in two people, it's $200.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, something like that.

[A]

You think they're going to cheap out because you're adults.

[B]

My parents have

[A]

your parents. Like, we spent that money already. Honey, I got to be honest with you. We didn't think you were getting married.

[B]

Basically. We all. I mean, I'm in my 40s. My sister, she's. She got her first kids when she was 38 also.

[A]

You guys are all doing it like that?

[B]

Well, just me and her. My brothers. There's none that they know of.

[A]

Yeah. You're saying your brother. The ladies don't. They don't. They don't come in too close.

[B]

They wonder because he's again, in his single. In his 50s.

[A]

You think they wonder if he's gay?

[B]

No marriage. I don't know.

[A]

I mean, they thought you were probably.

[B]

I. Yeah, maybe It's.

[A]

I mean, 100.

[B]

Maybe it's a family thing. I don't know.

[A]

You're like. You're like, I'm getting married. And your dad looked at your mom, went, oh, my God. And then handed her $10, and you realized he lost the bet.

[B]

Oh, my dad said, when are you getting married? In the Catholic church? I'm like, really? Still bad.

[A]

I got two kids with that. I'm not married.

[B]

We.

[A]

We got to pretend on that still.

[B]

Yeah, There's a lot of hypocrisy with that one.

[A]

How old is he?

[B]

83.

[A]

Oh, hell. You just better hurry up and get married.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's basically the reason we're doing it, because my parents are both so old, I'm like, well, I want to have, like, wedding pictures with them. But now I don't even know if my dad's gonna come to the ceremony because. No, because that is against his religion.

[A]

Are you serious?

[B]

Maybe it's possible.

[A]

Here's a question I have. I'll leave you all with this as you go off onto your day. What the Is wrong with everybody there?

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

But one life. You get one life. Okay. Yeah. That's what you're gonna do. Unbelievable. All right. I hate you all.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I'll see you basically. All right. Hold on a second. Okay.

[B]

Okay. Foreign.

[A]

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