I Know Who Killed My Sister

Summary

Juicy Crimes with Heather McDonald

Episode: I Know Who Killed My Sister

Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Heather McDonald
Guest: Brittany Lloyd

Episode Overview

Heather McDonald hosts Brittany Lloyd, whose sister Jessica was recently found dead under suspicious circumstances. The episode delves into Jessica's life, her relationship with her husband Jeff, and Brittany’s pursuit of justice amid a system that often fails victims of domestic violence. The tone is empathetic, intense, and personal, balancing true crime intrigue with the gravity of Brittany’s loss and a call for systemic change.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Jessica’s Background & Character

• Jessica (age 38): Brittany’s older sister, described as adventurous, intelligent, and full of life.
  • “She was huge into traveling...done the accelerated nursing program at Kaiser, just under a 4.0.” (Brittany, 04:49–14:49)
• Close-knit sibling relationship that changed as Jessica entered a whirlwind romance with Jeff.

The Romance with Jeff: From "Love Bombing" to Isolation

• Breakup and Fast-Forward Romance:
  • Jessica left a 7-year relationship with Chris, then met and quickly moved in with Jeff—bartender-brewmaster at Big Bear Brewery. (05:18–06:47)
  • “She moved out and that was it. And then got right with, with Jeff...started seeing him in January, moved in by February.” (Brittany, 05:18)
• Secretive Marriage and Personality Changes:
  • Jessica did not initially tell Brittany about the relationship, knowing her family would be concerned by the speed and secrecy.
  • The marriage was spontaneous, held "in the mud" at an off-roading site, out of character for Jessica. (10:45–12:58)
    • “If you would’ve ever told me my sister would get married in the mud in cowgirl boots, I would say, yeah, when pigs fly.” (Brittany, 12:02)

Red Flags & Domestic Abuse Patterns

• Increasing Isolation & Control:
  • Jeff prevented Jessica from working and took control of her finances.
  • He discouraged phone contact with Brittany and their mother and was described as extremely possessive—and frightening to others who met him.
  • “He molds women around himself, and his interests become a part of you.” (Brittany, 12:02)
• Physical, Emotional, and Financial Abuse:
  • Reports from at least 4 ex-girlfriends of patterns of abuse, including strangulation and threats with firearms.
    • “You have a pattern of strangulation...these women have lost consciousness.” (Brittany, 27:03)
• Controlling Narrative:
  • Jeff habitually contacted family first during crises to “get his story out there,” painting Jessica as irrational. (47:49–50:11)
• Substance Use:
  • Jeff was described as a heavy drinker and regular user of cocaine, contributing to erratic, late-night behavior. (37:30–39:00)

Jessica’s Last Days

• The Escalating Situation (August 24–25, 2025):
  • A fight at a Fort Lauderdale bar prompts Jessica to stay out overnight; Jeff calls Brittany early to frame Jessica as unstable.
  • Brittany finally reaches Jessica during her Uber ride home, learning Jessica is deeply unhappy, financially trapped, and frightened to leave her animals with Jeff. (50:11–55:58)
    • “I don’t want to leave my animals alone with him.” (Brittany, 55:44)
• Attempts to Escape & Family Efforts:
  • Friends and family had plans to help Jessica leave, offering financial and logistical support.

The Night Jessica Died

• Sequence of Events (August 25):
  • Jessica tells Brittany she’s “overreacting... having a medication issue,” mirroring Jeff’s manipulative language.
    • “She goes, ‘You know, I also just got my period,’ which is telling because those are the exact same things that he had told me.” (Brittany, 62:13)
  • Last call: Jessica promises to call later; she is dead three hours after, found naked and face down in a canal near her home. (66:16–67:36)
    • “She was dead about three hours later... The first thing I asked, did he kill her?” (Brittany, 67:36)
• Eyewitness Reports & Evidence:
  • Video shows Jessica fleeing naked, scaling fences, screaming that her husband was trying to kill her.
  • Multiple 911 calls were made: Jeff alleged a “mental break,” but a neighbor reported Jessica screaming for help. (70:49–72:28)
• Ongoing Investigation:
  • Jeff was arrested and admitted to putting his hands on Jessica that night but is only charged with simple battery. He remains on house arrest.
  • Brittany believes the system failed: “How has he maneuvered through the system all these years and had basically zero consequences?”

The Aftermath & Fight for Justice

• Emotional Toll & Systemic Issues:
  • Brittany is fighting guilt and grief but remains determined to advocate for her sister and end cycles of abuse.
    • “You had the gut feeling... But there was this light at the end of the tunnel... Good, divorced. And then...” (Heather, 87:03)
• Advocacy:
  • Brittany is active on social media, raising awareness, fundraising for legal and burial expenses, and working toward “Jessica’s Law” to hold abusers accountable during investigations.
    • “The judicial system does not have a heavy hand when it comes to domestic violence toward women... Something has to come from it.” (Brittany, 90:00–93:01)
• Public Call to Action:
  • Brittany: “Never stop trying... be there for them and have a way out for them.” (93:01)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Abuser Personality:
  • “He orders for you at dinner, runs your finances, takes your car keys... there's a pattern: isolation, ownership, control.” (Heather/Brittany, 45:18–47:40)
• On System Failures:
  • “There were 27 calls to 911 from that address in three years. The DA should’ve pressed charges back in 2020. The system failed my sister.” (Brittany, 29:25 & 82:13)
• On the Cycle of Abuse:
  • “Before this man, I had a living, breathing sister. I went from being a sister to an only child.” (Brittany, 81:07)
• On Action and Fearlessness:
  • “Fear is the reason he’s gotten away with everything. I don’t care if I’m pissing him off. He’s messed with the wrong sister.” (Brittany, 95:51–96:06)
• Final Words:
  • “She would’ve done this for me.” (Brittany, 81:46)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|----------------------------------------------| | 00:10–04:05 | Jessica’s early life and relationship with Brittany | | 05:06–06:47 | Rapid transition to marriage with Jeff | | 10:45–12:58 | Strange, out-of-character wedding | | 19:09–20:55 | Jeff’s background: military & employment | | 25:27–30:47 | Reports of domestic violence across relationships| | 40:23–41:59 | First suspicions of infidelity and secret surveillance| | 47:49–50:11 | Jeff’s manipulation and controlling the narrative| | 55:44–56:29 | Fear for her animals and deeper implications | | 66:16–67:36 | Final conversation and news of death | | 70:49–72:28 | Eye-witnesses and 911 calls on the night of death| | 73:57–75:29 | The difficulties of collecting Jessica’s belongings| | 81:07–81:46 | Brittany reflects on her loss | | 90:00–93:01 | Brittany’s advocacy and Jessica’s Law plans | | 95:51–96:06 | Brittany: “He’s messed with the wrong sister.” |

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How to Support or Follow

• Social Media:
  • Brittany Lloyd on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok (“Brittany Lloyd”; profile image is Brittany with Jessica)
• GoFundMe:
  • Campaign for legal fees, burial, and advocacy
• Advocacy Efforts:
  • “Jessica’s Law” to hold suspected abusers in custody during investigations

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Summary

This episode of Juicy Crimes stands out for its searingly personal approach—Brittany’s pain and determination are raw and palpable. The narrative weaves together the gradual isolation and abuse Jessica suffered, the failures of authorities to protect her (despite substantial warning signs and reported violence), and the chilling patterns of coercion, narcissism, and violence displayed by Jeff. Heather’s guidance makes the warning signs and escalation unmissable, while Brittany’s resolve to prevent future tragedies is inspiring.
A powerful listen—both a chilling true story and a rallying cry against domestic violence.

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If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, please reach out to a local support organization or hotline.

Transcript

[Brittany Lloyd]

Foreign.

[Heather]

Hello, and welcome to Jucy Crimes. Today, I feel very blessed to talk directly to an ongoing investigation of a very tragic yet juicy crime. I'm speaking to Brittany Lloyd. Thank you, Brittany. Brittany and her good friend reached out to me to see if I would be interested in sharing their story, because it's really. It's happening right now, and we talked a little bit on the phone prior to this taping, and so I just want Brittany to be able to tell her story of what happened with her sister. And. And so welcome Brittany Lloyd. So much for sharing your story.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Thank you so much for having me. This is such an amazing opportunity to get my sister's story out there because, you know, it's. I feel like it's kind of hit a plateau, and because the information isn't forthcoming from the police, that I feel like it's already starting to kind of die off a little bit, and I don't want that for her. You know, it's been 45 days, and we have no answers. They're still investigating. It's just. It's. He's. So let's just.

[Heather]

Let's just start from the beginning. Just so sure. You are how old?

[Brittany Lloyd]

I'm 36, so.

[Heather]

So your sister. It's Jessica, right?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes, Jessica. She's 38.

[Heather]

She's 38. And so that's very close in age. Were you very close growing up as sisters?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Oh, yeah. We did everything together. You know, we were super close. We're each other's only siblings, so you have a really special bond when there's only two of you. And then, especially as a sister, a sister bond is one of the strongest bonds you can have. So, yeah, we were incredibly close. And then, you know, Covid happens, and, you know, she went into nursing school, and that took up, you know, a huge chunk of her time.

[Heather]

I just want to ask a little bit before we get to Covid, because I thought that was really cool that she. You told me, you know, that she was bartending at a restaurant but also going to nursing school, like, in her, you know, 30s, which I think that is really great that, you know, she found, you know, the calling to have such a noble career, a very challenging, like, very difficult academic career to get to become a nurse at that time in her life, like, where. What was her twenties like, as far as career and love life leading up to this last year or so, Jessica.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Was huge into traveling. She went anywhere and everywhere you can think of. She was doing it. Always traveling. She. She loved it. She loved traveling with her friends. She traveled with her significant others and that was a huge part of her twenties and even into her thirties because her, her ex boyfriend Chris, who was the boyfriend before her now husband Jeffrey, would go to the Bahamas all the time because he had a boat and they would just run to the Bahamas all the time. So she was really big into traveling. She was really active, she would go to the gym. She was really big into diving and spear fishing. She was always on the water. She was just loved life. She lived it so fully and completely.

[Heather]

So this, this guy Chris, who was the latest boyfriend before she got married, why didn't they get married and how long were they together?

[Brittany Lloyd]

They were together, I think almost seven years. And Jess thought, as far as I know, Jessica thought that she, they were going to be together forever. You know, he was, she, she picked him because, you know, he's very kind, very safe. And she thought, you know, that was a forever thing. I don't know exactly why they never ended up getting married. I don't think maybe he didn't want to or she didn't want to, but for whatever reason it didn't work out. He ended up breaking up with her, caught her off guard and yeah, she moved out and that was it. And then got right with, with Jeff.

[Heather]

So how quickly did she break up with this long term boyfriend of seven years to going on her first date with this guy Jeff and they, they met at work, right?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah. So they had previously known each other from. There's a brewery in Coral Springs, Florida called Big Bear Brewery. He was the brewmaster, she was a bartender. So they knew each other from work. I, I believe he was married and my sister was with Chris. So you know, they were probably work friendly. I don't know if they had any kind of friendship outside of work or anything like that. But as far as they know. So Jessica stayed in Chris's house for some time before she could find an apartment. He was nice enough to let her stay there and he was really nice. They had a very amicable situation, separation. He helped her move into her new apartment and stuff. So it wasn't, they didn't part on bad ways. You know, it was very mature. And from what I can tell, as soon as Jeff realized that she was single, he just immediately got into contact with her. So, and it was, let's see, she moved into her new apartment the end of 2023, so sometime in, I think December 2023. And she started seeing Jeff sometime in January 2024 and then moved in with him, I think sometime in February.

[Heather]

And that is, that is crazy.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Crazy.

[Heather]

Like she'd only lived on her own for a month before she was, you said, had to break her lease. Lost a chunk of money.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah.

[Heather]

To go live with him. Why, how did, what was she sharing with you about this new love of her life?

[Brittany Lloyd]

She, Nothing. I didn't even know she was seeing him. She didn't tell me anything. I think she didn't want to disclose that information because she knew how kind of spontaneous it was. And that's, that's a pretty significant thing to do in such a short amount of time. And I think she knew that as her family and her sister, I, I, I wouldn't be on board with that. And I didn't think she wanted it shared with her family. So she, she basically kept it to herself. I think she told some of her friends in the beginning when she was more available with contact, but yeah, she didn't.

[Heather]

So, like, how did you, how did you find out? Like, oh, I wasn't at the apartment anymore and now with this new guy and living in his house.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, it was by, I think my mom told me because I think my sister and my mom had a conversation and my mom is the one actually told me that Jessica was seeing someone. And I, and I thought, wow, that's really quick because when Jessica moved out of her ex boyfriend's house, you know, she was very adamant that she just wanted to be on her own for a while. So I, and obviously I respected that. You know, she got out of a long term relationship. It was really sudden and kind of the world got ripped out from under her and she probably wanted some time to herself. And it went from that to seeing him and then moving in with him. And then they were married March 17th.

[Heather]

So now how did you find out about the marriage?

[Brittany Lloyd]

So I got a text from her and she said, hey, Brit. So I did something, don't tell mom. But I got, I, I just got married. Totally.

[Heather]

What was your reaction? Were you like, I, at this point, had you met Jeff, gone to the house, you not even met him, and you guys live in, in proximity to each other? Are you distanced?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Well, I'm, I'm in, I'm in Hollywood, Florida, and she was in at the time she was in Delray and then moved with Jeff in, and that was in Coral Springs, Florida.

[Heather]

So like, so it's about how long of a drive between Hollywood and 35 minutes.

[Brittany Lloyd]

35 minutes.

[Heather]

She and you like, she never was like, come over, see the house? Did you try to, Were you, she.

[Brittany Lloyd]

She kind of offered a little bit, but I have some pretty significant chronic health problems. Like I have chronic vertigo, so it's hard for me to get out of the house most of the time. And especially like, I don't really drive on the highway, so it's. It's a little difficult for me. But I always thought it was kind of odd that she also never came to me because, you know, when someone has a health problem, you kind of make accommodations to maybe like, oh, if you can't come here, I can come to you. And looking back now, it's. I now realize it's because I. Jeff doesn't really let women out of his sight like that. So putting two together.

[Heather]

So what was the wedding? Was it just a courthouse or did they even do like a cute thing?

[Brittany Lloyd]

No, they got married in. In kind of like, I can't even describe it. In the mud, where people go off roading with. Side by sides and four wheelers and stuff. So she got married in a dress and cowboy boots, which is very unlike her because my sister is not that kind of person. But he is, he's very country, off roading, cowboy hat, cowboy boots.

[Heather]

Okay, so like, like ATVs and stuff? Yeah, can AMs and ATVs and your sister was never into ATVs and can AMs. I also think that is such an interesting pattern as we get more into this episode of the kind of guy that then all of a sudden his world, you're in his world, you're just a part of his world. It's not about what you're into, it's not about what you like. And then all of a sudden your friend or your sister is this person that's like a little bit unrecognizable. You're like, what? Like, yes, I didn't know that you liked this or, you know, was into this, this particular hobby that you never showed an interest in ever.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Or if you would ever told me that my sister would get married in the mud in cowgirl boots, I would say, yeah, when pigs fly, you know, but throughout this whole thing and all the research and everybody I've been talking to, I've. I've realized that he molds women around himself and his interests become. Become a part of you. And that's just, just how it is, you know, my sister would have never gotten married in the mud in cowgirl boots. Like, that's.

[Heather]

Did she like send you guys a photo of it or, or post about it?

[Brittany Lloyd]

She sent me. She sent me pictures and me and some. And One of her friends were kind of talking about it, and I was like, this is just so unlike her. This is not something I would ever, ever think that she would do something like that. You know, my sister's not a country mud type of person.

[Heather]

So when you and your mom and everybody found out, we like, okay, well, now let's, you know, let's just be positive about it. And this could be great. I mean, did she talk about wanting to have his child or anything? Like, how much did she share?

[Brittany Lloyd]

So I. As, you know, as a sister, you might not agree with somebody and their. And their decisions and their actions and stuff, but as a sister, I. I knew she was probably going to get some harsh critiques from my mom, so I didn't want to add to that. I wanted to be the supportive sister. Like, okay, well, you know, whatever makes you happy. If you're happy, then I'm happy for you. Um, but, yeah, that was just an odd. An odd situation.

[Heather]

So now at this point, it's March, she's married, he's divorced, and has two daughters, you said, that are like 11 and 13.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes.

[Heather]

And to your knowledge, did he have regular, like, every other weekend, Wednesday nights, and was she participatory as a stepmother?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Oh, yeah, she absolutely was. I don't know the ins and outs of his custody. I know he had them sometimes, and I know they were there for the summer and the times that they were there. You know, my sister loved those girls. They adored Jessica. You know, she was a great stepmom. She would talk about them when I could get her on the phone. And, yeah, she was. She loved, loved those girls.

[Heather]

So now at this time, is she done. Has she graduated from the. Is she a full nurse? Like, what is she doing for work in March of 23 when she's a newlywed?

[Brittany Lloyd]

So she, by that time was a nurse, and she was working at a medical center at a hospital in. In Delray. And she loved being a nurse. She was a fantastic nurse. And she. I have to say that, you know, my sister was a highly intelligent woman. She graduated high school with an associate's degree. She went through the accelerated nursing program at Kaiser University and graduated with just under a 4.0. She was hundredths of a point off a 4.0, which is hard to do on its own, but the accelerated nursing program and almost a 4.0. I mean, this is a highly intelligent woman. So, you know, she was very, very good at her job. And sometime she. I think it happened in October of 2024. She lost her Job. She, she lost her job and the, the reasoning she was giving people and throughout this whole situation I, she, I think was lying to cover four situations and I think she was lying to cover for him. She said that the reason that she got let go and we contacted the hospital but they said, you know, with Hibbalah and stuff, they can't disclose that information even though she is deceased now, is that she said because of her ADHD and what have you. She was, I think they have a three strike rule when you forget to scan the medication and then the wristband. She apparently did that three times and it's a three strike rule and she was let go and she never got another job after that. Which is very weird because my sister loves to work. She is very hard worker. She doesn't really know what to do with herself and she's not working. And you know, finances are really important. She's very big into saving. So she hadn't after that she did not have an actual job to the day that she was found dead.

[Heather]

So did she tell you right away or did you have to find out later because she was like embarrassed that she was no longer working there?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, I found out eventually in a conversation I had with her and that's the reasoning she, she gave me. And periodically she was mentioning that her, that Jeff was trying to get more benefits from the VA for disability and that he was trying to have her as his nurse to also get more money. So he, he didn't let her work. Mr.

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[Heather]

So let's just talk about Jeff, the husband a little bit and his background. You said he was a combat marine? He was in combat as a marine and yes.

[Brittany Lloyd]

So yeah, he's an ex marine.

[Heather]

And so do you know if he. So did he have like an. Was he honorably discharged but had PTSD and that's why he was trying to get these benefits? What's your understanding of how he left the military?

[Brittany Lloyd]

So I'm not sure exactly if he just left because his time was up. But I. Far as I know, he did two tours in Iraq, and then he is no longer a Marine, and he gets benefits from the va, I think, for ptsd, from what I know so far, and I'm not sure the ins and outs of all of that, but that's. That's basically what that was. And now I know he also worked at Big Bear as the brewmaster, but he was fired. And then.

[Heather]

Do you know why he was fired?

[Brittany Lloyd]

He was having. As far as I know, he was having problems with one of the managers there, maybe. I don't know. Again, I don't know the ins and outs of that because I'm still. I'm doing my own investigating because I'm not getting a whole lot from the cops, and there's just so many moving parts to this whole thing that, you know, I'm still kind of piecing it all together. But I do know for a fact that he was fired from. From Big Bear, and I know he was a firefighter for City of Davie. And that's another. That's another thing that I'm looking into, and I haven't found, like, the exact reason, but I think it's a combination of a couple of things, and one of them is I think the domestic violence arrest back in 2020, because I don't think that can happen when you're a firefighter. So I think they were in the process of letting him go then I believe he might have resigned in order to still collect some sort of benefits from being a firefighter.

[Heather]

Okay, so let's go back a little bit. So between her getting married in March and her having to be let go from the job in October, had you hung out with them as a couple at all at that, throughout those months?

[Brittany Lloyd]

No, I was. I was talking to her on the phone because of my health. And also my mom's health had tanked pretty bad, so she needed a lot of help at home and just. Just life. Thanks. But we kept in touch via text and phone call. But as the. The time kind of went on, she was less and less getting back to me. Like, less and less answering my phone calls, less and less answering my text messages. And, you know, it was all like, the red flags were there. I just wasn't piecing it together. I thought, you know, it was a Jessica thing, but it was definitely not a Jessica thing. It was a Jeff thing because apparently he doesn't like his women being on the phone when they're around him, which explains the times I would get her on the phone. I would only get her for a couple of minutes, and then she would get off the phone. And then there are times that I would be on the phone with her, and I could hear him, you know, yelling at her in the background, you know, reprimanding her about something or yelling at her in the background. And, you know, then she would get off the phone. There was one time she was on the phone with my mom, and he told her to get off the phone, and she said, well, I'm on the phone with my mom. And he said, I don't care. Get off the phone.

[Heather]

You know, that tactic. What happens is it's, you know, obviously he's trying to isolate her so that, you know, she's totally dependent on him and has no one to go to. But also by making a fight every time you're on the phone with somebody or going to see a girlfriend for lunch or whatever, whatever, you come back from the lunch and the fight's so awful that then eventually what happens with the. With the woman is that she just was like, fine, I won't go. I won't go. It's not worth it. As fun as the lunch was, the three days of hell after wasn't worth it. So now that friendship has now deteriorated or is gone and, you know, or like, you know, they. Or they start to tell you that your friend isn't a good friend or whatever that is.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Now.

[Heather]

Now let's go back for the audience and, you know, his past relationships and what can you share in speaking to various exes? You don't need to say their names, but there is, you know, arrests and domestic violence things. So can you just share whatever you can share with us about what you uncovered about his past behavior now and remind us how she. Her sister is 38 and he's 43. Right?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes.

[Heather]

Okay, so continue. Like, about his.

[Brittany Lloyd]

So I know his. His first marriage lasted, I think, 12 years, and they got divorced in 2018, and obviously that did not end well. And she ended up. Because everything that happened towards the end ended up getting much more custody and was able to get more custody for the kids and then be able to, I believe, move farther away from him. From him. Yes. So his relationships with women, and I know this, I believe, happened with one of them, and multiple of them is he. He strangles women. It's happened to multiple women. It's happened to the women that I've been speaking to. And I. It takes so much for these women to step forward and. And tell their stories. And stuff because, you know, they're terrified. Terrified of him.

[Heather]

So how many former wives or girlfriends have you spoken to that were in physical domestic altercations and abuse? According to them, allegedly.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Oh, yeah. So it's been. I would say, so far I've talked to four. Some have just shared a little bit. Some women have just come forward and said, oh, I dated him and at this time. And I got out of there really quickly because it just. Something was off. And that's a reoccurring theme with him, is just copious amounts of people that have interacted with him, and they all say the same thing, like there's something wrong with him.

[Heather]

So can you kind of share in talking to these exes, what, like, the pattern is. And do you think from, you know, in the last. In the five years before meeting your sister with each different relationship, did it seem that his behavior was getting worse or was it all the same pattern?

[Brittany Lloyd]

It's definitely. There's the similarities. From the women that I've spoken to, the similarities are there. And then also from some of the women I've talked to, it seems like over the years it's escalated. And I think when it comes to mental health and stuff, it, you know, things like that don't get better. It tends to get worse as time goes on. So, I mean, you have a pattern of strangulation of.

[Heather]

So. So they would like, like in a fight or sexual or what?

[Brittany Lloyd]

I'm not sure about sexual, but I know from what I've been told, it's definitely been when he gets physical. He. He strangles. Strangles women.

[Heather]

And then they're like. And then finally he lets go.

[Brittany Lloyd]

These women have. Have lost consciousness.

[Heather]

Oh, my God.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes, Consciousness have. Have come to. On the floor with. With him on top of them or him standing over them. Yeah.

[Heather]

And then did all those of. Of those women. Did some get away right away, like that was it. Or. Or. Or file or did they, you know, believe his. I'm sorry. Until they could eventually leave.

[Brittany Lloyd]

So I know one of them used it for a restraining order, one that was in 2020. Not sure if that particular time it was, but his arrest in 2020 was, you know, she ran out of the house screaming, and she. When she made it out of the house, she didn't know her 911 call had. Had gone through. So, you know, when. When she made it out of the house, there was there. The cops were there, and, you know, the. She had spit, you know, dripping down her back. And, you know, which comes full circle because, you know, 45 days ago, my sister was running from that house.

[Heather]

Wait, let's get, let's get to the, to that. Let's just. So. So you've noticed all these similar things that happened. And when you say spit on her back, what do you mean? Like he spit at her while she's running out or.

[Brittany Lloyd]

I. I think so, yeah.

[Heather]

And. And she had strangulation hand marks on her neck or.

[Brittany Lloyd]

I'm. I'm not sure. I would have to pull up the report.

[Heather]

But those women, Those women got out. And how did he fight these, These other domestic violence charges from these previous girlfriends? What happened with that?

[Brittany Lloyd]

There has only been one arrest of him, which was the one in 2020, and those charges were dropped. And the. It seems the DA decided not to pursue charges for whatever reason. But I have the calls to service from this house from 2017 to 2020, in July 2020, and the total records are 27 calls to 911, 27 calls to 9, 11 from that address in.

[Heather]

And is that all one girlfriend or different women calling?

[Brittany Lloyd]

No, that's just from. From 2017 to 2020. So that's multiple. Multiple women at that point, all at.

[Heather]

That same house that your sister.

[Brittany Lloyd]

All of the same house. You know, and it's just so concerning. I wish I knew how all this before it was too late again. I mean, I saw some red flags, but I didn't know the extent of how deep and severe all of these problems were.

[Heather]

In speaking to some of the ex girlfriends, did any of them share kind of like the initial charm of why they did fall for him and like, what he did or said to kind of woo them so quickly?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes. They all say he was sweet, charming, loving, incredibly affectionate. From what, everything I'm hearing and things like that, it sounds like classic love bombing. Classic love bombing. And then, you know, that's a very short window. And then these women, you know, move into his home and it just takes a turn for the worst. And then, you know, the. That nice guy, so sweet, so charming, so lovable, turns into how he is, which, I mean, it's. It's beyond, beyond horrific.

[Heather]

Between the, the, the ex wife, the mother's children, and these other girlfriends between her and your sister, did he ask any of those women to marry him after he moved him into the house?

[Brittany Lloyd]

As far as I know, yes.

[Heather]

And did any of them say yes and then just get out before the actual marriage or, like, what was their response to his asking?

[Brittany Lloyd]

So I think some said no because it's. He does this very quickly in a very short time span. And I know before my sister, there was a woman and he was engaged to her and then broke up with her, kicked him, kicked her out of his house, and then immediately went to my sister, you know, did his whole love bombing that he does. And then, you know, moved her right in with him. And they were. And then they were married. You know, I mean, my sister is, is an intelligible and a very intelligent woman. But, you know, when it comes to men, obviously she made poor choices. And it's just, it's. It sucks because this happens so often to so many women and, you know, bad results come from, from these types of situations.

[Heather]

Yes, truly. And I definitely think, and I've talked about it, there's just such an escalation to, you know, whether you are a serial killer. It starts with the pets, and then it starts with being a peeping tom. Then it's assault, and then it's, you know, to also these men that it starts with, you know, being verbally abusive or possessive. Then it's, you know, a push against the wall, then it's, you know, a hit or a, you know, push down the stairs or whatever. And then it's, you know, the minute they start putting their hands on your neck is, in my opinion, and studying all of this. It's. It's going to happen. It's going to. He is on his way to killing somebody that he's in an intimate relationship with. I'm curious if you, in speaking to these exes, was he one of those that after a physical, horrible fight, would he still be punishing the woman and make her all of a sudden beg for forgiveness or was he that guy that's like, never again, sweetheart, here are the flowers?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, I think I, I can't say for sure because there's some women who don't really want to get into the nitty gritty of it. And I, I completely understand and I respect that. But it seems to be like a mixed bag of if you, you piss him off, he's going to really make you have a horrible night. And then it's. He's done something very wrong. And then he, he apologizes and he'll never do it again. You know, it's one of those. He's an incredibly good liar, he's incredibly good at manipulating people, and, you know, he knows exactly what he's doing.

[Heather]

So now let's get to the. What started this final fight between them and you did hear from your sister during that time. So can you kind of walk us through and the date and the times and everything of, of what you, what happened.

[Brittany Lloyd]

So this was August 25th of this year and of this year. Yes.

[Heather]

So from October 24 to August of 25, she wasn't, she didn't have a full time job. So she was just home with him.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes.

[Heather]

And he was not in a place where he needed a nurse, obviously. He's, he was a brewmaster. He had other jobs. So he's trying to do some type of extra whatever, in my opinion scam and so do you have any idea in how they would fill up their days together?

[Brittany Lloyd]

I honestly don't know. I know, you know, he, he's. They, he seems to be a homebody and I think he has a lot of stuff at home from the pictures and stuff that I have seen of the house. And then I know they, he has a place and they go four wheeling and kind of like camping type deal. He has, there's a pool, there's, you know, tons of stuff to do at home. So it's, they didn't really get out much. And you know, I feel so bad because my, my sister was around him 24 7, never really getting a break because from what I gather he doesn't like when his women being out of his sight and away from him. Even like when you use the bathroom. I was on the phone with her and she was using the bathroom. We're sisters. It's fine.

[Heather]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brittany Lloyd]

You know, you know, it's. It's fine. And he just came in the bathroom and it seems like a reoccurring thing. That's, that's what he.

[Heather]

Because he knew that she was on the phone with you.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah.

[Heather]

So insecure like, are you talking about me? What are you doing? You know, do you. Where were they with drugs and alcohol and drinking.

[Brittany Lloyd]

So I, I know my sister drinks which, you know, it's fine. I know he is a heavy, heavy, heavy drinker and he and I, I know for a fact he does cocaine and he's been doing cocaine for a very long time and he doesn't sleep at night, so he's up all night. There has been times. I was on the phone with her once and I heard him in the background and he sounded very drunk and very hyper and it was around 11, maybe 1120. And Jessica lets me know that he is cleaning out their garage and he's coming and showing her all. Everything he's finding in the garage, which I thought was highly unusual because who cleans, who just starts cleaning out their garage at 11 something at night.

[Heather]

Right?

[Brittany Lloyd]

You know. Oh, there was, there was another time that it was about 6am I gotten her on the phone. My mom was in the hospital, so we're just, you know, talking about things and I hear him in the background and she, she asked him, oh, do you want me to grab you another beer? And it's six o'clock in the morning.

[Heather]

Wow.

[Brittany Lloyd]

And it's just, you know, these, these little things like those little, those little red flags that you just pick up on it, you know, especially as women, we're just very hyper aware of situations of little things that just, it's not, doesn't, it doesn't sound kosher, you know, and those were just little, little nits and bits that I would pick up on the, the rare times I would get her on the phone because a big chunk of that, you know, I, she was unreachable. Her friends couldn't get a hold of her. We couldn't get a hold of her. I would call her eight days in a row, every single day trying to get hold of her, and she would never answer. I would text her five, six, seven times in a row, not get an answer. And you know, because I don't know him that well. So I'm thinking, oh, it's got to be there's something going on with her, like is maybe she's just going through something. But, you know, little did I know she was living a, a in a horrific situation, which now I'm just unpacking it and I'm learning more and more. But you know, when you're in it at the time, you're naive to exactly what's going on in, in that house.

[Heather]

So. Okay, so let's get to the, the day of August 25th or the night before that. And you had told me before that she had expressed to you that. When was the first time she expressed to you that she thought he might be cheating on her?

[Brittany Lloyd]

She was, didn't come outright and say it because she was, When I would get her on the phone, she was very specific about the things she wouldn't, wouldn't say. And she, when I, I now realize, because she told a friend towards the end, she was telling a mutual friend these things that, you know, Jeff is always there and he's always listening and he's got cameras in the house and he's always watching and he's always listening. So she couldn't really get out on the phone what she wanted. And then, you know, when she would go outside, there's been times where, you know, she was out, and then we would get her for a few minutes and then he'd be yelling in the background, and she would quickly go, oh, I have to go. And then she would go. So, I mean, privacy, there was none. But I realized there was definitely something going on because she, towards the end, was starting to open up a bit, and I was putting two and two together, and she was trying to get me to help her with some, like, codes to get into accounts or something. So she was having it sent to my phone. But that was kind of me thinking there was something going on, and then me contacting our mutual friend and then her coming back to me. And then she started opening up about the things that Jessica had been sharing with her, which was she was positive that he was cheating on her, that he was unfaithful, which I come to find out through his exes and stuff. That is something he does habitually.

[Heather]

Unfaithful to the point where he's actually going out of the house and having intimate relations with other women or just like, talking on the phone, sexting, trying to contact.

[Brittany Lloyd]

No, I think it's. It's actual, like, sexual conduct outside of the house.

[Heather]

And did she have any idea. Did she think it was multiple people or did she think it was, like, one particular woman that he was pursuing?

[Brittany Lloyd]

That I don't know. And I wish I could talk to my sister about this, but I. I can't. With the.

[Heather]

With the exes, when they said they, you know, would catch him cheating or whatnot, were they, like, girls from different sites? Or would he meet them, like, out and start telling them that they. That he was single and pursuing them.

[Brittany Lloyd]

And that I'm not so sure, but I think it's him meeting them probably at work, wherever. I know from what these women tell me he has a sex addiction. He is addicted to porn. He has slept with tons and tons and tons of women. And, you know, she told Jessica, told our friend that, you know, it's just something he does. He can't help it.

[Heather]

So, I mean, I'm guessing, you know, being the brewmaster at a cool brewery, ex marine firefighter. When you were describing him to me, I said, I'm just gonna guess what he looks like. And I guessed it to a T. I'm like, let me guess. Like, chatted sleeves, like, sleep. You know, full arm tattoos and like, you know, bald head or whatever, like a gray beard, where it's like, ed. Like a bad boy, Edgy. Not necessarily the best looking person, but the Style works all together. And it's always like that bad boy type of thing, like when Sandra Bullock was with Jesse James. And you're like, what's. And it's like these guys come in there, they're so like, hi, I can't get enough of you.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah.

[Heather]

They're so into you that you're. And they're like, you're my soulmate. You're the best. And they're like, gosh, no one's ever like, in your head. No one's ever loved or liked me this much. Like they, they must be right. And it's like, yeah, the woman really isn't making the choice. The choice is being made for her because it's so overwhelming.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes, it's. It's that kind of arrogance.

[Heather]

It's.

[Brittany Lloyd]

It's arrogance. It's. That's assertive type of take charge and lead. But I think women don't understand that for people like that, it's not about, you know, wanting. It's. They have to. Because it's a means of control, you know?

[Heather]

Yeah.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Like that. That night I was on, when we had that conversation on the phone and we were. This was less than a month before all this. And we were at family dinner. He ordered for her.

[Heather]

So you were at an actual restaurant?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes, we were at a sit down family dinner restaurant. A month.

[Heather]

A month before her death?

[Brittany Lloyd]

A little less than a month.

[Heather]

How did it sound, the way he ordered for her?

[Brittany Lloyd]

It. When the waiter came over, it. He just, he ordered for her and she was kind of a little bit caught off guard, like, oh, you're. You're gonna order for me and, and all this stuff. And he said, yeah, you know, so we can, we can share it. But he never asked her if he. If you, do you want me to order for you? Like, we can share it or something? I don't know.

[Heather]

No conversation.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, he also ordered for himself as well.

[Heather]

And, and so at that dinner, besides that, did. Was he trying to be charming to your family or was he kind of.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, to. To an extent. I think he was trying to have, you know, a conversation with me. And we were. I guess he thought we were hitting it off. I was not having a great time and I wasn't trying to be the nicest of person just because everything that I've been hearing him on the phone with my sister and the times I've talked to him myself, you know, it. I just didn't like him. He comes off very abrasive, very forceful, just. Just not a pleasant person to talk to, you know, very opinionated to an extreme. Like, if he doesn't like your views and your opinions, he's going to belittle you about it. You know, it's. It's just not the type of person I would ever choose to be around and most people would choose to be around.

[Heather]

So then. Okay, so then on August 24, they get in a fight somewhere.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes.

[Heather]

Can you describe. Walk us through that.

[Brittany Lloyd]

So Jessica said they were. I'm not exactly sure where, but it was some. It was either a bar, a nightclub somewhere in Fort Lauderdale. And this was what Jeff had told me the next morning. So they had parted ways and Jessica stayed somewhere in Fort Lauderdale for the night, and he had gone home and he just, just left her there. He left his, his drunk wife alone at a nightclub or bar or whatever. So that was on the 24th, and then the 25th is when he called me. And he called me at about 7:30 in the morning, and I realized he did that so he could get a hold of me first so he can get his narrative out there first. And I realize this is an occurring theme for him is getting there first and getting his story first. And that's when he said, you know, I talked to him for about maybe 25, 30 minutes on the phone. And the whole time he was just saying, you know, Jessica thinks I'm cheating. I'm not. You know, she's thinking I'm like her ex boyfriends from the past that did these things to her. I'm not like that. And I just kind of let him ramble and talk the whole time because he definitely loves to talk and he loves to hear his own voice. And he just painted my sister as being irrational. He said what he felt is, you know, she's acting crazy and she's having a medication issue and. And you know, she just got her period, which the, the men that, that use that.

[Heather]

Were you aware if your sister was on any kind of medication?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Not that I know of. The only thing I know that she might have been on is Adderall for her adhd.

[Heather]

So. So when do you hear. So you hear from. You talk to him at 7:30am and then when do you hear from her?

[Brittany Lloyd]

So I got a hold of her at around 10:30, and she was in an Uber going back to their home in Coral Springs from Fort Lauderdale. And then it was the first time I got to speak to my sister and have her not kind of edit what she was telling me, because the times that I would talk to her in that house, she was very specific about the things she. She said or didn't say. And sometimes I would ask her a question, and if she didn't really feel comfortable answering it because he was always around, she would kind of just gloss over it and kind of change the subject. So this was the first time I actually really, truly got to have a fairly normal conversation with her in over a year.

[Heather]

And what. What did she share?

[Brittany Lloyd]

So we. We talked about Jeff. And, you know, I told her some of the things that Jeff had been saying about, you know, their situation and stuff. And, you know, what she was saying is most of everything was he was saying is not true, which I'm going to believe my sister. And then, you know, I told her, like, hey, this is concerning. You know, this is a very bad situation.

[Heather]

So what did she say? Did she say, I think he's cheating? And did she say he had ever. Did she say he'd ever gotten physical with her, though?

[Brittany Lloyd]

No, she didn't open up to that. And even if.

[Heather]

Did she share who she thought, like, why she thought he was cheating or who she thought he was cheating with?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Now, she probably told our mutual friend Kayla some things, and I've been unpacking some things with Kayla throughout all of this because she really opened up to her towards the end. So she knows significantly more than I do. But I told her in the car on the way back, you know, just like, this is a really bad situation, and we have a means to get you out. And she goes, well, but, Brittany, you know, I don't have any money. I don't have a penny to my name, which was a huge problem. My sister was incredibly depressed and incredibly unhappy because he would not let her work. And my sister had never not worked before. And my sister had never not had money before, you know, so to be stuck there with him and have no means to do anything, no financial freedom. He doesn't let you have financial freedom. All the money you make goes to him.

[Heather]

So. And in any savings or whatever she had, he either had control of or had already spent.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah. Because he. Neither one of them were working. I know he was collecting benefits from the VA and he was getting something from the firefighters. But, yeah, my sister used up all of her savings, all. Cashed out all of her stocks. Like, all of it. It was all. All of it is gone. He. He took it all.

[Heather]

So now I'm guessing they're really coming to a. Because if they've run out of money and she. So it's like, you know, that's probably causing a Lot of stress and fighting, too, because how much longer can they, like, live in this house and continue to go out and have beers at the brewery and all of that if. And, you know, if you're. No one's making any money. So. So. So then you said, you shouldn't even go home or. What did you say?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, I told her. I said, you know, Jessica, we all have a plan for you to get out. You know, our Kayla, our friend Kayla has a plan. Her friend Lauren has a plan. My parents had a plan for her. And she was shocked. She was like, I really know these things. I said, jessica, you know, she didn't.

[Heather]

Know that you guys were all, like, concerned and talking.

[Brittany Lloyd]

She had no idea. But that just, you know, as friends and family and stuff, you. You have eyeballs, you know, you. You're aware that something is not right. Something feels very off. So I told her, I said, just, you know, whatever you need, you know, it doesn't matter how much it costs, you know, our parents will dip into whatever savings, retirement, it doesn't matter. I told her, you have unlimited funds, but, you know, you're not going to stay there. Right? Like you're going to leave. Right. And she kind of, you know, glossed over it. She. She went back and I know this was a huge reason that she went back was one. She really wanted him to admit that he had been cheating because it's something she has been thinking about and. And trying to get definitive proof for. For months. You know, this is not something that happened spontaneous. This is something that had been on her mind, and she has been through something like this before with an ex who was also abusive and also a habitual cheater. So my sister saw the similarities there, you know, and she also said something to me which was so poignant, and I just was really concerning what was. She said to me, I don't want to leave my animals alone with him.

[Heather]

Wow.

[Brittany Lloyd]

And I. That immediately I was extremely concerned because that means that something has probably happened in the past and, you know.

[Heather]

Right. Like kicked a dog or something.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, she had a couple of dogs. The one had recently passed away from cancer, but she had a dog there and three cats. You know, her animals are her babies.

[Heather]

Right.

[Brittany Lloyd]

So she was very concerned leaving her animals alone with him. And that was. That freaked me out, you know, because that takes a very sick individual to. To take anger out on animals.

[Heather]

And that's, you know, that's another thing that these abusers do, whether they've, you know, in classic horrible kidnapping cases. Finally, the girl that's like in a basement, gets a little puppy and then the monster kidnapper will like kill the puppy in front of her like, you know, months later just to be like, now you have nothing. This is just. So did any of the previous girlfriends mention anything about him with animals?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes, and someone has mentioned that. And so now I know it was prop. It's definitely true. You know, at the time I didn't know these things. I'm just getting, I'm just. No. Getting these things from my sister, from what she's telling me. And then, you know, here we are 45 days later, and I've just been researching my butt off, talking to when she.

[Heather]

People when she said, no, I gotta go home because I, I don't want him to be there with the animals without me. You, at the time that, that he would be doing something, that he would take his anger out on the animals or did you just think, you just thought, you know, she's just being an overprotective dog mom or whatever?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, I, it was definitely. Okay. I'm concerned because it's. My sister has never ever said that to me about anyone she's been with. So it was definitely of. Okay, so this man is very unstable and has, you know, a very explosive, severe personality.

[Heather]

And did he have any. Was he a gun owner?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Oh, yes. He would, he would pull guns. He has pulled guns on women inside that house and threatened them with it. Put holes in the walls with them. You know, incredibly dangerous. He has threatened suicide by cop. I don't know if you know what that means.

[Heather]

Yeah, she'll have the cops come and then him just like come out of blazing so that he gets shot.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, you know, that, that has happened. I have notes. That's why I'm referring to this. He, you know, the financial abuse of, you know, you have no finances, so you're solely reliant on him. You know, that's just part of what these abusers do do and they, they make it so. Oh, no, I, It's. I am keeping us afloat. You know, I have the finances, you know, like, what are you going to do without me? Where are you going to go? Type of situation. My parents, you know, because they were having so many money pro Much financial difficulties. My sister contacted me probably a. A few months before she died, saying that she was going to sell her car. And I was thinking, well, that's, that's pretty big. What do you mean sell your car? She's like, oh, you know, because they don't have any money and all this stuff and it's just, you know, Jeff thinks that we should, you know, if I want money, I should sell my car. And it's, you know, Jeff has a lot of toys. You know, he's got side by sides. He's got, of course, he drives around on a big F250 on a 6 inch lift with, you know, tires and stuff. And it's red. Of course it is. And I asked him once, I said, how does it feel driving around, being above everybody on the road? And he said, oh, that's how he lives his life, being above everybody, that superiority complex.

[Heather]

Oh my God. So she gets her animals and is that to her is the call in the Uber?

[Brittany Lloyd]

No, I spoke to her two other times. So I spoke to her at. I was leaving a friend's house and so I had spoken to her around 4, about 4, maybe 4:30. And she told me that she was, she was still there, that she was doing some laundry, she was making herself a margarita. She loved margaritas. That was, that was her trick of choice. And you know, she would get back to me. I said, okay. And then throughout that whole day he had been texting me, you know, just all this stuff, just, just putting in that narrative of your sister's acting crazy. Your sister's this, your sister's this, your sister's this. But the times that I talked to her that day, she sounded completely fine. She sounded totally normal.

[Heather]

And how would you respond to Jeff's text about your sister's acting crazy again?

[Brittany Lloyd]

Completely ignored him. I completely ignored the text because I'm, I'm not going to engage with that because there's. To me there was no point because I'm not going to believe him over my sister and I'm not going to tell him that because it's going to then set him off even more. But I'm not going to say I agree with you because I don't. So I just ignored him.

[Heather]

And then when did she say to you? I remember we had this conversation where she said, well, everything's fine. I talked to Jeff about the cheating thing and we had a very logical conversation and maybe it is my period.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah, that was at, just before 6pm and that's when.

[Heather]

So that's after the laundry, laundry margarita that she calls you again.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yes, yes, he had called me and, and this was just before I had spoken to Jessica and he said that know they couldn't come to a resolution and that he was going to divorce her and that she couldn't stay there. That, you know, Me and my dad or whoever had to figure out where she would be going and all this stuff. And in my head, I'm. I'm thinking, this is amazing. Like, thank God, right? You know, she's finally going to get out of there. I don't care who does it. I don't care who divorces who. This is just the thing to do, you know. And right after that, I got a text from him that says, you know, she's refusing to leave. I'm probably going to end up leaving. And I said, okay, that's fine. Just let me know what's going on. I said this in text. Let me know what's going on so I can plan accordingly. And then right after that, I got a call from Jessica, and these were her exact words. And she said, she answered the phone, she sounded fine, tired, but, you know, it's probably been a long couple of days. And she said, you know, Brittany, I. I think I'm overreacting. She goes, you know, I think I'm having a medication issue. And she said, you know, I also just got my period, which is telling because those are the exact same things that he had told me on the phone that morning, right? So I'm unpacking this as he has now convinced her that she's overreacting, and it's a medication issue and it's emotional period issues, which, as a woman, you would never say that because, you know your body, and that's not the case. And, you know, this is not something that just, oops, happened because of a medication issue recently. This is something that she's been thinking, has been going on for months. So, you know, and I'm on the phone and I'm listening to these things, and I'm just like, this is not sounding the way I think it should be going. And, you know, she said, brittany, you know, we had a logical conversation, which. That word is not a word my sister would use. That is definitely something he would say, because I know he. He told me or he sent me a text, is that, you know, he made like a bullet point PowerPoint of. Of everything she was thinking he was doing, and he discredited everything, you know, which. Who makes a PowerPoint and what were.

[Heather]

Some of the doing?

[Brittany Lloyd]

I. I think it was just him cheating because she had found in one of the spare bathrooms a washcloth with makeup on it. And my sister doesn't really wear makeup, and she does not wear makeup in the house. So whose is it? You know, just like little things from. From, you know, feminine type Things that is not hers but is somehow in the house and doesn't make any sense, you know, like if, like, what's going on when she's sleeping type situations. And, you know, she said that, you know, she was sorry for kind of bringing me into this. And, you know, after the logical conversation, she said that she was going to stay there the night. And when she told me that, my gut just. I just had a really bad feeling, you know, and. Sorry.

[Heather]

It's okay. I can't even imagine what you're going through, and thank you for telling us and resharing it, but I'm. I know it's putting you exactly in that spot at that moment, and that's like. I mean, I'm so sorry.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Thank you. I'm so sorry. No, it tried to be really strong, and then it kind of peeks through a little bit. But she said that they were going to have another logical conversation in the morning and then, you know, go from there. And she said she would call me later. I never got that call from her, but I didn't think anything of it because my sister habitually says, oh, I'm gonna call you back, and then never does. And, you know, she said, well, also, I'll call you in the morning too. And she told me she loved me. And I said, I love you. And that was the last time I spoke to my sister. And she was dead about three hours later. And, you know, it's. It's something I was just, you know, it had been just a really hectic, crazy day. And I'm thinking, okay, fine, that's. We'll figure it out in the morning. You know, if I need to move her out of there, get people involved, it's fine. You know, never thinking in a million years, there. There is no tomorrow. So that's.

[Heather]

That's basically how did you hear, like, did he call you? Did.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Detectives. Detectives knocked on our door. Door at about. About maybe 3:23:30 Tuesday morning. So. Woke us out of bed. And I was in my bedroom. I. I live with my parents. You know, dogs were going crazy barking and stuff. And my dad comes in my bedroom and says, there's cops outside with. With Mom. And I immediately knew something really, really bad happened. You know, instant my heart started racing, my blood went cold, my stomach twisted. And, you know, I slowly got out of bed because I have vertigo. So I have to be really careful with my position and. And, you know, went to the front. The front door was open. My mom was sitting in a chair outside the door, hunched over the look of, of just anguish and just like horror on her face is something I'll never forget. And that's when she told me that, that Jessica was dead. And I obviously lost it. That's the first time I think I, I had a panic attack. And that's when they said that, you know, they, they found her in a canal. And they didn't really go into much detail. And I asked him, I said, well, are you sure? You know, the denial, like, are you sure it's her? How do you know if she's. You found a random person in a canal. And they described her tattoo. And I said, yes, that's my sister. And the first thing I asked them when they were at my front door, the first thing when I could actually speak was I asked them, did he kill her? That was the first thing I asked them, did he kill her? And they, they got a statement from me and stuff and they said, you know, that's a very, that's a very specific thing to just to ask and to say. And you know, I described, you know, this is not a good person. This is a very bad person who we've been suspecting for a long time that bad things were happening. And, and that was, that was my life changed forever that day.

[Heather]

So you, you know, you have confirmation that your sister has been found dead naked in a canal. Yes. Not far from their house.

[Brittany Lloyd]

No.

[Heather]

And like face down and in a. Yeah. So she was face down in water.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah. From the detectives are keeping everything very hush hush.

[Heather]

Okay.

[Brittany Lloyd]

But from what I have learned, you know, from doing my own research is, yeah, she was found naked, dead face down in, in a canal. And I think it was in one of the houses, one of the neighbors, behind their house, because how the neighborhood is. There's just one canal that just runs. So I think she was a couple houses down. And there is video footage of her running naked through a backyard, climbing a fence. She stumbles a little bit, she gets up and she runs and you know, to flee again. Here is another woman that has run from this house. And he called, I'm not sure exactly when. I think it was around 8 something that he said that my sister was having a mental break.

[Heather]

He called who?

[Brittany Lloyd]

91 1. He called 911 at 8 and yeah, just before. I think it was around 8 something. And then right after him, a few minutes later, one of his neighbors called 911 and they said they heard my sister screaming, screaming for help and screaming that her husband was trying to kill her. And then the police got on Scene. And, you know, they. They found her. I don't know exact time frame because that's not being shared with me, but they. They found her face down, dead.

[Heather]

And then. So once you are there with the cops now, did. Did he try to reach out to you and act like a grieving widower.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Or did he have not heard a word?

[Heather]

Never heard from him again?

[Brittany Lloyd]

No, never heard from him again. My dad did go to the jail because they. They did ended up arresting him because he admitted to putting his hands on her that night. Wrestling with a laptop, I think, because Jessica was trying to go through his laptop. So he said, you know, they were wrestling with it, and he did put his hands on her. And so that's kind of the only thing he's been charged with for now. And, you know, when he was in jail, my dad had to go there to get him to sign my sister's body over to us and her animals and stuff. And when he gave an officer the paperwork to go do that, the officer came back with the paperwork and asked my dad. He asked him if Jeff was bipolar because he had been there a few days, so they had been interacting with him and observing him, and they even were like, there's something wrong with this guy. Like, when is he bipolar? So my dad informed us of that, and it's just been horrific ever since.

[Heather]

So then how did you get all of her stuff out of there? Did you have to have any contact with him to do that?

[Brittany Lloyd]

I am so still waiting for her belongings. He, as far as I know, has most of it packed, and I should be getting it this weekend, as much of it as possible. I have asked for anything and everything that is hers. I think he's being forthcoming about that because, you know, I mean, he doesn't look like a stellar person at the moment, so hopefully he. You would think he would want to be, you know, as helpful as possible at this point, but, yeah, that's. That's kind of the basis of everything my parents collected. I got her animals signed over to us. My parents went and collected the car because they had bought the car from my sister. Turns out he. He took that money. My sister didn't see any of it, and they strategically left her car at their house so she would have a means to escape if she ever needed to. Also found out that the battery was dead in the car, so couldn't even get away if she wanted to. You know, on that night, she never called 91 1, but I don't think she ever got an opportunity to.

[Heather]

Well, you mean they bought. They bought the car. He took the money, but they hadn't collected the car yet.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah.

[Heather]

So that she would still have a car to leave. However, ironically, the. The battery just happened to not be working.

[Brittany Lloyd]

The battery is. Yeah, the battery was dead.

[Heather]

Interesting.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah. Coincidence. You know, there's just so many coincidences around. And this, this man.

[Heather]

And then you said when we spoke earlier that he had a reason for why she was naked at this time of where. Then she freaked out and ran out of the house because they were about to be intimate or they were just intimate.

[Brittany Lloyd]

That's. That's what, that's the. What he's. He's saying.

[Heather]

And so he's saying they were intimate or about to. She is having a medication problem with her Adderall and. Because she was on her period, which if. If she's on her period, I mean. Yeah, but that's a little weird too, so. Or her period's coming or whatever, and then. So she has a freak out and just acts insane and runs out of the house.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah. Like, why would you run out of the house? Listen, when you're in such a vulnerable state like that, you. You don't just run out of the house unless you're running for a person.

[Heather]

Yes.

[Brittany Lloyd]

For a reason. You know, you're in. You're naked. You're. You know, again, this is not the first time a woman has run from that house screaming.

[Heather]

And so at this point that, you know, she was found deceased on 8-26-25. So in the weeks since they are still investigating, you have not had any kind of burial?

[Brittany Lloyd]

No, not as of yet. Still autopsies happening or the, the, the autopsy was done. Um, we're just waiting for the final results for that. I think they're waiting for the toxicology, I'm pretty sure, and I think some other things, and then they're kind of going to go from there. But yeah, as of now, it's just, you know, he's technically on house arrest with an ankle monitor, and that's the only thing he's really being charged with is just simple battery because, you know, he admitted to kind of wrestling with her that night and he mentioned her falling a few times, which is interesting. I think that's to kind of explain the injuries on her person because he said that she fell, you know, a couple of times from what I've read with the, the statement that he gave, and he can't really explain why she would just run out of a house naked like that. You know, that's running that's running for a purpose, that's running with fear. You know, that's fear.

[Heather]

And this canal. So there was water in this canal or was it just like. Was she in, like, very shallow water?

[Brittany Lloyd]

It seems to be shallow from what I have gathered. I don't think she was too far out there.

[Heather]

But.

[Brittany Lloyd]

But, you know, for sure it was not an od. For sure it wasn't suicide. You know, this. This is. This was not. This was not a natural death. This was not an act of God. This was, you know, the actions of another person towards my sister that has now led to her being dead. And I hope the evidence presented will show exactly what happened. And I am faithful and hope that the police department is doing everything in their due diligence to do this right and do it properly and do it thorough. Because this has been an ongoing thing with. With violence towards women for almost 20 years. And he has gotten away with it basically every single time because he. These. These women and these people. Because it's not just women. He's like this. Everyone is so afraid of this man. So terrified. His neighbors hate him. They're all terrified of him. I have not come across one person that has something nice to say about him. It's always, he tried to fight me. He is weird. He. There's something just off about him. He's this, he's that. And it's just a constant, constant thing. The amount of people that have contacted me about him is just. It's just an astronomical number of people. And I just don't understand how he has somehow maneuvered through the cracks and through the system all of these years and has had basically zero consequences to his actions because everyone has been afraid of him. So I am putting myself out there. I. You know, people are telling me, oh, be careful. You don't want to piss him off too much. I don't care. You know, my sister is dead because of this man. Whether he did it himself or something happened because of him, you know, he is still responsible. And I'm not going to call him a murderer or a killer until the evidence shows as much. But, you know, before this man, I had a living, breathing sister. I went from being a sister to an only child.

[Heather]

Oh, so sorry. Yeah, yeah, take your time. Oh, I'm. You're so. You're doing so great. The fact that you were able to do spend all this time talking to people and taking notes and contacting me, and you need to be really proud of yourself for that because a lot of other people rightfully so would be on their, you know, 30th or 40th day of just laying in a bed.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah. So, I mean, she would do the same for me.

[Heather]

Yeah, I'm sure she would. Well, I mean, thank you so much. I mean, does this. Does this guy have another girlfriend already?

[Brittany Lloyd]

I know there is women already at that house already. He contacted. He had just gotten out of jail and he had contacted someone to come.

[Heather]

To that house, probably the girl that.

[Brittany Lloyd]

He was cheating with, to, you know, have her, you know, so he can lay in her lap and. And rub his back. You know, it's just the revolving door of women because he's never alone. He can't be alone. He always has people over. He gets one woman leaves, another one comes right in. You know, some women last a decent amount of time. Some just, they're like, oh, no, gotta get out of there. You know, it's just a revolving door of women and abuse and women and abuse and, you know, just. It sucks because the system has failed my sister. They should have pressed charges. The DA should have pressed charges back in 2020. This is. This is a highly methodical, dangerous person. And he's. He's around people, he's out in public, and he gets these women in there and he moves them in very fast, very quickly. And this whole love bombing Persona of being so nice just goes out the window. Like, I have texts from. For my sister, from my sister to a friend. And this is what she said when they first started, you know, hanging out and seeing each other and stuff. She goes, I just immediately felt so comfortable with him. And he's obsessed with me, which is a reoccurring theme. He looks at me with the googly love eyes. I know it's just the beginning, but I feel like this is what I want. And we both seem to be on the same page, which is not the same page. And then with a wedding. He planned the whole thing. The whole thing. And then here's another one. But I feel like we're both on the same page. And he's literally obsessed with me. That obsession which my sister took as, you know, the. This love and affection that she really wanted after having her world ripped from her, from her relationship. What she didn't realize was love bombing. And that's him, you know, before that. That ownership and control starts, you know, and his friends say, and this is a really interesting thing, all his friends say that he is so much calmer and happier with me. Calmer. That's a very. That's a very specific thing to say about somebody's personality, that they're calmer with a person. And you know, she. For some reason, one of her friends sent her a baby shower invitation, which she was, ironically enough another coincidence, was the only one to never receive it. Until her friend hit her up and said, hey, the baby shower, the invitation, my sister said, oh, I never got it. And her friend asked was it a.

[Heather]

Mail invitation or like an email?

[Brittany Lloyd]

It was a mail in invitation.

[Heather]

So he got it and chucked it for sure.

[Brittany Lloyd]

And then when she, you know, just sitting her, you know, said, oh, you can come. And my sister asked her if it was co ed, if the baby shower was co ed, which is.

[Heather]

Right.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Interesting because.

[Heather]

And was it? Was it or was it not?

[Brittany Lloyd]

It was. And so he went to the baby shower as well. And again, never let her out of her sight. Out of his sight. It's just a reoccurring theme all the time. Just possession, ownership, control, abuse. The fact that my sister, multiple people have now told me that they saw bruises on her neck. Bruises, you know, because come to find out, he. His go to thing. He takes your phone so you can't call. He takes your keys so you can't go anywhere. And also another thing, when Jessica was working at the hospital, you know, she went to work with a lot of pain in her side and you know, it was really bothering her. And the medical team said, no, you need to get. Was either an MRI or ct. She had four broken ribs. Four broken ribs. And she was not. She was pretty vague on exactly what happened to. Cause those broken ribs. Still don't know. But I can take a pretty wild guess as to why she.

[Heather]

And that was before she left the nursing job. Yeah. Oh my God.

[Brittany Lloyd]

It's like if I would have known these things, the guilt, you.

[Heather]

You can't have any. You can't though, because only one person you know is responsible for this hell. And I. I can't even imagine what you're going through because you, you had the gut feeling. But it was like there was this light at the end. The light at the end of the tunnel was like getting brighter. It seemed like it was almost done. He just said, I'm going to divorce her. Good.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Yeah.

[Heather]

Divorced.

[Brittany Lloyd]

And I don't even think that that was true. I think that's just what he was telling me because he's just, he. He's a liar and he's a manipulator and he always makes it a point to get his narrative and he is so good at it. I honestly truly think he believes it himself, which is why he is so good at the way that he is.

[Heather]

Well, how can. Is there any. You know, do you have. Are you on Instagram? Do you want people to follow you?

[Brittany Lloyd]

I am on Facebook. I'm on Facebook. I'm on Instagram. I'm on TikTok. I've turned all of my. My accounts into me and Jessica and like this whole journey and with the law and moving forward and charges and things. I recently I made a tick tock video about, you know, Jessica and the whole situation and everything. And unexpectedly it kind of blew up a little bit. And I think I have like on that video over 135, 000 views on it, which is wonderful. And it makes me so sad because a lot of the comments are women saying, I was in domestic violence. I was in domestic violence. I lost a friend, a mother, a sister to domestic violence. This is so important to get my sister's story out there because this is a story that is heard and told far too often, and this is too common of an occurrence, and it needs to stop. The judicial. The judicial system does not have a heavy hand when it comes to domestic violence towards women. And a lot of women do not come forward and they hide it or they choose not to, or they drop charges or anything because they are afraid because there is no protection for these women when it comes to their abuser. How many women leave? How many women have restraining orders? And these men come back and they hurt them and they kill them and they beat them and they end up in the hospital and, you know, and these. These men get, you know, a slap on the wrist and they do it again and again.

[Heather]

Wow. Well, thank you again. So tell them what. Where they can follow you on tick tock. And what's your names there?

[Brittany Lloyd]

It's. It's just Brittany Lloyd. And you'll see me. My. My profile picture is me and my sister, the one that I sent you, we do have a GoFundMe for her. And that's going to be covering legal fees moving forward. That's covering her burial, that's covering celebration of life. I'm also going to be working with somebody to get some law changes in there and starting a law that I'm going to be working on called the Jessica's Law, which is probably going to be entailing if any kind of situation like this happens again, that the person under suspicion is in. Is in jail until the investigation is over. Because the fact that, you know, my. My sister is dead and this man gets to just hang out in his house, you know, drinking whatever he wants and doing cocaine and doing mushrooms and doing whatever the heck else he's doing. And, you know, having very little going on with his life right now. Not much has been interrupted. And, you know, my sister is dead, you know, and he put his hands on her that night. He has a very long history about putting his hands on women. And, you know, it needs to stop. And there. There needs to be some type of consequences because he is just going to keep doing this. You know, he. Men like this don't stop to. To men like this. Women are not women. Women are property. Women are ownership. Women are around for them and their own wants and needs. You know, these women can't cook for themselves. They can't drive. They can't do anything because it's not exactly how he likes it. And he threatens them, and he's physical with them, and he threatens them with guns and he threatens them with suicide by cop. And, you know, it's just like it. It needs to stop. Something. Something significant needs to happen. And my sister should not. This. My sister did not die a statistic for no reason. Something has to come from it. And if one person hears her story and chooses to leave, or a friend or a family member hears her story and it's like, you know what? I'm. I'm gonna get back in touch. I'm gonna try. Never stop trying. Never stop trying. Because it is up to the person when they choose to leave. And my sister was definitely getting to that point. She was definitely going to leave. She just. That day, that night, she didn't. For whatever her reasons were. But you know, when that person does choose to leave, to be there for them and to have a way out for them.

[Heather]

Absolutely.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Stuff like this does not happen.

[Heather]

Well, thank you so much, Jessica, and I really appreciate you coming on. And you're gonna keep us updated. I'll keep everybody updated. In the meantime, follow her. And thank you so much. Thank you. I'll be praying for you guys.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Thank you so much.

[Heather]

Thanks.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Bye.

[Heather]

Okay, this was. This was great. Thank you. I'll be in. I'll be in touch. I know it's a lot, so take like, I take a deep breath.

[Brittany Lloyd]

I need some. Some Wingstopper, some pizza.

[Heather]

Yeah, like, just eat something. Chill. And you did a great job. It was great. And I'll let you know when it'll be out. Probably like in. Within the next two weeks. If not. Okay, the Wednesday, the earliest, or the following Wednesday.

[Brittany Lloyd]

But I'll keep you and I'm gonna Forward you her GoFundMe link.

[Heather]

Yeah, absolutely. We can put that all in there.

[Brittany Lloyd]

And I'm going to be working on a lot of things. I'll keep you updated. I. I hope I articulated it enough.

[Heather]

But you did a great job. You did a great job.

[Brittany Lloyd]

So much to unpack. Because it's not just. Just the situation with my sister. It's like 20 years of women and abuse. Like, abuse with his sister, abuse with his mom, which, like, I don't know if I told you this, but he sent a video to his mom because he had moved his mom out of the house to move a woman. His mom was staying with him because he cannot be alone, like, ever. And, you know, she's older, and she had some furniture in his garage, and he wanted her to get the furniture, and she's like, well, you know, I don't have a truck. Like, you know, whatever. So he got enraged and sent her a video of himself taking an ax off of the wall and. And smashing it and destroying her furniture and then sent her the video.

[Heather]

And is the mom sticking by him now?

[Brittany Lloyd]

You know, I.

[Heather]

We'll soon see. I. We'll soon see. Once he's arrested, we'll see how big of a role she. It takes.

[Brittany Lloyd]

You know, one of those things. I think a lot of people tend to kind of stay in touch with him as minimally as possible because they're not trying to trigger him. It's.

[Heather]

Yeah, these.

[Brittany Lloyd]

These people, everybody walks around on eggshells with him.

[Heather]

Right.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Because you don't want to anger him, don't piss him off, because he does some crazy, you know, and at this point, like, I don't care. Like, I was told to order security cameras. They're coming.

[Heather]

Yeah.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Putting them up around the house. I was told to get guns. Thankfully, we already have them. But, you know, it's just. He's incredibly dangerous. So people are thinking, you know, that I'm going to piss him off a lot. And I said, well, you know what? It is what it is. And I don't care if he wants to come after me, he's going to come after me. And, you know, I am not afraid.

[Heather]

Good.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Fear is the reason that he's gotten away with everything that he's gone away with.

[Heather]

Right.

[Brittany Lloyd]

And then he has. He has messed with the wrong sister. Yeah, she was nice. He. He won the battle with her, but he started a war with this one. Good.

[Heather]

You're a badass. Thank you so much. Go get some food. Love you.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Thank you.

[Heather]

Bye.

[Brittany Lloyd]

Thank you. So much, Heather.

[Heather]

Talk to you soon. Bye.

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