Teacher’s Pets and Haunted Hearts: The Haley Beck & Lynette Hooker Cases

Summary

Juicy Crimes with Heather McDonald

Episode: Teacher’s Pets and Haunted Hearts: The Haley Beck & Lynette Hooker Cases

Release Date: May 13, 2026
Host: Heather McDonald
Guest/Producer: Drake Tobias

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Heather McDonald, joined by her producer (and son) Drake Tobias, dives into two headline-making cases: the tangled saga of Arizona teacher Haley Beck’s inappropriate entanglement with a student, and the mysterious boating disappearance of Lynette Hooker. The discussion explores the psychology and aftermath of “teacher sexual misconduct” cases, the chaos of teen e-bikers and parental accountability, a notorious musician murder-dismemberment case, and ends with an update on the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni legal drama. The episode maintains a sharp, comedic lens on disturbing stories — Heather’s signature "juicy, but less dark" true crime style.

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Main Discussion Sections and Timestamps

1. The Mary Kay Letourneau Effect & Teacher-Student Crimes

[04:43–09:56]

• Heather sets the stage with a rundown of the Mary Kay Letourneau case as the initial public touchstone for female teachers having sexual relationships with students.
• Ponders why attractive, married under-30 teachers risk everything for teenage boys, speculating on psychological motives:
  • "Is it that this girl was the prom queen and wants to stay perpetually the prom queen? Or maybe she wasn't popular and didn't have any relationships, like the Drew Barrymore 'Never Been Kissed'—the girl's never been kissed in high school, so then she goes back to be kissed. It's weird. It's weird." — Heather [07:04]
• Notes cultural comparisons to the French president’s relationship and the ongoing media/public obsession with such cases.

2. The Haley Beck Case: Teacher, Groomer, and Social Media Ties

[09:56–18:37]

• Background: Arizona teacher Haley Beck (late 20s), sister to TikTok star Noah Beck, reportedly groomed and began an inappropriate relationship with a sophomore male student.
• 4,000+ text messages discussed sexual acts, secret meetings, and financial transactions ($630 via Apple Pay described as "straight up prostitution").
• Beck did student’s homework, monitored his girlfriend, and obsessed over her student’s social life.
• Drake points out the power imbalance, but the dynamic is complicated: “He [the student] was really not into it… She was getting played. She was doing his work, paying him, and he had a girlfriend.” — Drake [11:00–11:25]
• Beck was set to wed another man, with the wedding only weeks away when the story broke.
• School culture issues: Reports of another female teacher (Angela Berlaca, 47) sending nudes to students; district accused of covering up broader misconduct.

Notable Quote:
“She’s such a dork. And there’s something weird about a dork who’s a slut. I don’t know. She’s a slutty dork and a predator.” — Heather [24:21]

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3. School Culture & Teacher Psychology

[18:37–25:09]

• Drake and Heather riff about the awkwardness of high school graduation speeches and viral valedictorian take-downs.
• Examination of "pick-me" teacher culture: young, underqualified teachers attempting to relive or repair their own high school status through student relationships.
• Brief aside: Noah Beck’s and Haley Beck’s mother (a teacher) is also put on leave for posting inappropriate TikTok content.

Memorable Moment:
“We both wonder, was Haley jealous of her brother’s success? ...She brought her brother around to the school to show off… Like, this is to the soccer team.” — Heather [24:20]

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4. The E-Bike Tragedy & Parental Accountability

[27:14–34:17]

• The hosts dissect the case of a 14-year-old boy who fatally struck an elderly man with a powerful, high-speed e-bike.
  • Mom bought the illegal bike (Class 3E, capable of 50 mph) and is now facing criminal charges.
  • Drake explains: “It’s the same as giving your kid a car at 14… and he goes and kills someone.” [28:39]
• Broader discussion: rise of e-bike gangs among wealthy kids, property destruction, and challenges for clueless parents.
• Anecdotes about groupthink (“Lord of the Flies” mentality) and Heather’s relief her own kids are grown.

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5. David the Musician Murder Case – Celebrity Crime Horror

[35:15–48:29]

• Heather summarizes the chilling case of David, a singer accused of grooming, murdering, and dismembering 14-year-old Celeste.
  • Relationship started when she was 11, became sexual at 13.
  • Timeline: After Celeste’s disappearance, David released a song and music video foreshadowing/body disposal, did press appearances with no sign of guilt.
  • “The COVID up is he allegedly ordered a shovel, body bags, two chainsaws and a blue inflatable pool via Postmates and Amazon.” — Heather [36:20]
  • Debate on the gruesome details and psychology of dismemberment: “Maybe that's something he had a fantasy about. He wrote songs about this.” — Heather [45:36]
• Legal strategies discussed; possible defense theories; speculation about surprise witnesses and third parties.

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6. Teacher Stories & The Perils of "Too-Young" High School Instructors

[49:23–54:48]

• Heather and Drake (Gen Z) swap stories about their own teachers, discussing why some young teachers might prefer high school roles.
• “I always thought it was interesting... young [20-something] teachers, that they choose to teach high schoolers in particular.” — Drake [51:41]
• Analysis: some are well-meaning, but others seek power, “reliving” high school, or are fundamentally unsuited.

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7. The Lynette Hooker Boat Disappearance

[54:48–64:18]

• Recap: Michigan woman Lynette Hooker vanished from a dinghy at night in the Bahamas, sparking a missing persons mystery.
  • Husband Brian’s account is scrutinized: drinking at a beach bar, small dinghy, she goes missing; conflicting voicemail evidence from Lynette’s daughter.
  • Critical facts: No life jackets, engine kill switch, nighttime, possible bystander boat.
  • Heather is initially suspicious: “When I first heard the story, I thought... I call BS. This guy did it. And upon further inspection and looking at it, I think maybe he is innocent.” [65:03]
• Personal anecdote: Heather’s boating misadventure in Catalina and the risks of water safety.

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8. May “Maya” Millet Missing Person—San Diego

[65:29–69:35]

• Maya Millet, young mom of three, disappeared; husband accused.
  • “Spellcaster” evidence: husband gave money to “make his wife fall for him again” and protect against rivals.
• Discussion on dangers of magical thinking, emotional manipulation in crumbling marriages, and evidentiary challenges when there’s no body.

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9. Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni: Harassment Lawsuit Settlement

[69:35–75:35]

• Final update: Blake Lively’s and Justin Baldoni’s mutual lawsuits over on-set harassment/defamation were settled out of court; neither side gets money, many claims dropped, reputational damage but no trial.
  • “Blake Lively got $0, but... hopefully moved on. Justin Baldoni got $0, but he avoided trial...” — Heather [70:42]
  • Heather’s lesson: in the social media era, gossip is fleeting, “You’re only as good as your latest show.”

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10. Wrap & Reflection

[75:35–end]

• Heather and Drake wonder which stories would make the best movies—vote for a dark comedy about the Becks.
• Advice for viral scandals: “Just take the summer off… put your phone away. No one will be worried about you.” — Heather [76:41]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Is it that this girl was the prom queen and wants to stay perpetually the prom queen? ... It's weird. It's weird.” — Heather [07:04]
• “She’s such a dork. And there’s something weird about a dork who’s a slut. I don’t know. She’s a slutty dork and a predator.” — Heather [24:21]
• “He was doing all of his homework and he's not showing up for work, but... she allegedly due to Apple Pay, paid him $630 where she described in a text as feeling like straight up prostitution.” — Heather [11:43]
• “It’s the same as giving your kid a car at 14… and he goes and kills someone. Like, it’s not a 14 year old ran his bicycle.” — Drake [28:39]
• “Maybe that's something he had a fantasy about. He wrote songs about this." — Heather on musician dismemberment case [45:36]
• “I always thought it was interesting... young [20-something] teachers, that they choose to teach high schoolers in particular.” — Drake [51:41]
• “Just take the summer off… put your phone away. No one will. No one will be worried about you. You don't need to announce you're leaving social media. Just go away and then come back a few months later with some cool [thing].” — Heather [76:41]

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Summary Table of Cases Discussed

| Case/Topic | Key Individuals | Main Issues | Outcome/Status | Timestamp Start | |------------------------------|-----------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------|------------------| | Mary Kay Letourneau | Mary Kay Letourneau | Pioneering teacher-student crime; inspired scrutiny and cultural fascination | Deceased; started media trend | [04:43] | | Haley Beck (Centennial HS) | Haley Beck, Noah Beck | Teacher grooms/pays student, obsession with brother’s fame, 4,000 texts, engaged to someone else | Not yet prosecuted | [09:56] | | Centennial HS Scandal | Angela Berlaca, school dist.| Multiple teacher-student cases at same AZ school; alleged district cover-up | Ongoing investigation | [17:40] | | E-Bike Parental Trial | Unnamed boy & mother | 14yo illegally riding 50mph e-bike hits/kills veteran; mom charged | First-of-its-kind prosecution | [27:14] | | David/Celeste Murder Case | David (musician), Celeste | Musician grooms, kills and dismembers teen; covers with song/video releases | Arrested, trial ongoing | [35:15] | | Lynette Hooker Disappearance | Lynette & Brian Hooker | Missing from dinghy in Bahamas, contradictory husband story | Still missing, investigation | [54:48] | | Maya Millet San Diego | Maya & Larry Millet | Domestic abuse/magic spellcasting; missing body; husband accused | Trial ongoing | [65:29] | | Lively vs. Baldoni Lawsuit | Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni| Harassment/smear campaign countersuits; high-profile settlement | Mutually dropped, settled | [69:35] |

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Informal, comic, and irreverent: Heather and Drake maintain a conversational, sarcastic, and sometimes darkly comic take on sensational stories.
• Critical but empathetic: Recognizes both the serious impact of predatory behavior and the absurdity in certain cases.
• Social media & fame: Recurring theme of how technology, celebrity culture, and “thirst” for attention intertwine with crime.

Final Advice

“Just ignore the drama, move on, and remember, you’re only as good as your latest show.” — Heather McDonald [71:47]

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[A]

Hello and welcome to Juicy Crimes. Today I'm joined by an expert in the field of being a funny male because I gave birth to him. I've got my producer, Drake Tobias a Nepo podcast, Nepo Baby, one of the few, first of its kind. He is producing this podcast and he'll be chiming in from the producer's corner because there's a couple crimes we're covering today in which I feel a male gen zers point of view might be interesting to hear. Hello, Drake.

[C]

Hi Heather. Thank you for having me on Juicy Crimes today. Let's talk about some juicy crimes.

[A]

Let's get into it. Well, the first crime that I want to get into is a genre of crime that has captivated myself my interest since the pioneer of it was made famous through the media. Her name was Mary Kay Letourneau. Yes, I'm talking about the crime of a female teacher having an inappropriate. I'm not going to say the word of what it makes her because whenever I say that word, somehow the algorithm and YouTube doesn't like it. So I'm going to call it an inappropriate sexual relationship, but you and I both know it's a crime. Okay, Mary Kay Letourneau. Back in the late 90s, it was discovered that this teacher who was living in the Seattle area, 36 years old, four kids, very attractive and a teacher, had an inappropriate sexual relationship. With her 13 year old student who was a friend of her son's. It was found out she was pregnant with this child. She went to, got arrested, went through trial, they said, okay, she had the baby and they only gave her a short period of time because they probably thought she needed to come back and raise her child. While she was home, she had strict instructions not to meet her victim at all. They found her in a car having sex with him and she was immediately sent back to prison only to find out she was now pregnant with her second daughter from him. She did like seven years in prison. He would bring the daughters and visit her. His mother raised, helped raise the kids. She got out, they got married. Ever so often they do a People magazine article, a hard copy, something to keep them going because the interest was there. Like they fell in love. What happened? This is like, you know, the French president and his wife, who they claim, yes, they were both at the high school at the same time. She was a married teacher and he was a student. But they didn't start hooking up till after he was in college.

[B]

Who knows?

[A]

But they're together. Okay, so maybe does this work? I don't know. Huge age difference, right? Eventually they had some real awkward interviews that made people wonder, are they really that happy? There are times they hinted at like, yeah, I felt like my childhood was taken from me. I don't know why. Because you were a dad at 13. She would talk to him and be like, who was the boss? Who was the boss? Who wanted it the most, who came after me? And he'd be like, I did. They had two beautiful daughters that seemed in interviews to be quite well adjusted. He would do DJing gigs with hot for Teacher and she'd wear like a little skirt. They got like a fake divorce or they claimed they were getting divorced. I don't know if that was just to get another payment or clickbait, I don't even know. But she did pass from cancer. Since then, it seems like there's been an influx of these stories, especially in the last 10 years. Did they always exist? But we're getting caught now because of the digital evidence that always seems to be found. Emails, text messages that maybe a parent of the victim finds on the child's phone. Why is it. And we see many of these women and they're all attractive, many of them have husbands and they're like under 30 and they're going after these young men and having sexual relationships with them. So it's a completely a crime. There's grooming that Happens prior to the actual act of sex happening. Why is it. What is it? Is it that this girl was the prom queen and wants to stay perpetually the prom queen? Is it that she wasn't popular and didn't have any relationships like the Drew Barrymore Never been kissed. The girl's never been kissed in high school, so then she goes back to be kissed. It's weird. It's weird. Okay, so what is it? Well, here is the story of Haley Becky. There's so many layers to this. Haley Beck is a teacher who teaches in Arizona high school and she's late 20s, I think. And it is discovered. It was first reported to the Arizona department of Education in August of 2025. The investigation revealed that there was only over 4,000 text messages between Haley, 27, and a student who was a sophomore when the grooming reportedly began. And these messages discussed sexual acts, meeting up and drinking. Now let me tell you about Haley. Her brother is a super famous tiktoker named Josh. Right, Noah. Sorry, Noah.

[C]

Named Noah Beck.

[A]

Noah Beck.

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Drake.

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Tell us a little bit about Noah Beck.

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Well, Noah Beck, I remembered him. He was probably one of the first tiktokers. And he was kind of just like a thirst trap tiktoker guy. And I think he dated Addison Rae at one point, but probably over 10 million followers. Very famous.

[A]

So this. So would he be younger or older than her?

[C]

I would say he's probably my age. Like 24 would be my guess.

[A]

Okay, so her younger brother is an extremely famous tiktoker. So this is what's so interesting about this girl. She's having sex with this guy. The text messages are straight up embarrassing. This guy has her wrapped around his finger, but he's still the victim. Okay. Because she's grooming him, but he's saying things like, Drake, what were some of the texts about her weight?

[C]

I think she asked at one point, how'd you feel about me? Or something sophomore year. And he was like, whoa, you were like a beluga whale. Something like that. Like you were massive. And it would have not been a flex back then. So he was worried. More worried about the clout he was going to get in class than about anything else, really.

[A]

He also, they said, barely showed up to class. So he's having sex with her. She thinks he's into it, but by the text messages, he's really not. Not only is she doing all of his homework and he's not showing up for work, but they realize.

[C]

Showing up to class.

[A]

Sorry, sorry. Showing up to class, they realize that she allegedly due to Apple Pay, paid him $630 where she described in a text and as feeling like straight up prostitution. She's paying him to have sex with her. She's doing the work. He doesn't have to go to class. And she's paying him to have sex with her. And he had a girlfriend. And this girlfriend has spoken up and said that she had like stalked her and followed her and asked the other girls in the class, what do you think's going on with them? Do you think they're going to last? She had completely had infiltrated her life as if she was one of the students. You said she was also a coach of the soccer team.

[C]

Yes. So she was a coach of the soccer team for the girls soccer team. And they interviewed some of the girls on the team and they were saying how it felt like she was fun to be around, but she didn't feel like a teacher or a coach. And how some of the seniors, she actually felt intimidated by the seniors and the seniors were the coaches for the

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team, basically because she was just so inept. And this other person said, I took her class. We never learned anything. They barely did any work. There's a video of her very cringy when she was a little heavier. So I don't know how she got thin enough for her student to finally succumb to her advances. But maybe another side effect of the shot is, I don't know, liking your teenage student. Obviously I'm joking, but it's that maybe new confidence. I don't know. But they show her like dancing so cringy to like, like a array of Bieber songs with like a purple iconic Justin Bieber baseball cap. And it's so cringy in the class is laughing uncomfortable that she was one of those teachers that that was always placating to the boys, trying to get the attention, wearing as she lost weight, wearing skimpier things like a very tight red top.

[C]

Pick me girl.

[A]

She's the ultimate pick me girl. Even as a teacher. And I think we've all encountered that teacher or known about that kind of a teacher. And here's the shocking part. This all came about was discovered in August. She gave the money $630 in July. So she's paying him, having sex with him in July. It's discovered in August. What was set for September 14th of that same year was her wedding. She was engaged to Seth Bricker. Sorry, Seth, for saying your name, but let's just think about him for a minute. I mean, how effing embarrassing is this, I mean this is your, the woman you got on a knee and wanted to spend the rest of your life for. Thought you were marrying this cute young outgoing school teacher who wants to do better for the youth by having sex with them and actively having sex with a child. But another person, well, they said that the sex didn't happen till after he was 18. But still cheating up with your wedding like going to your bridal showers and getting dress fittings, knowing that you're texting 4,000 times with this teenager and it is just the most shocking, embarrassing story. And nobody thinks about this poor groom's to be mother. I mean what is it like when your daughter in law to be gets, you know, gets found out as being a teacher who has sex with her teenage student? Absolutely horrible. And the grooming being that this started pursuing him sophomore and junior year when apparently, you know, he wasn't willing to at that point, I'm guessing, you know, he, I don't know, maybe the parent parents said they didn't speak up at first. They didn't want to screw up his scholarship, his athletic scholarship trajectory or whatever. Maybe he, you know, downplayed it, maybe he didn't, wasn't honest about it. They probably just didn't know he had a girlfriend. And this was his side piece, the teacher who was doing all his work for him and giving him money. I just know that like, you know, there's been a situation that I had happen when I was in high school that very much could have been a possible grooming situation that I stopped from happening. I talk about it on Patreon and you can go over if you haven't listened to Patreon and talk about that. But it was my high school experience and looking back at it, I think it's really. I think I probably stopped a potential grooming situation happening for me. But for other students I can see how this could happen. There was just two girls that came forward, they're both in their 30s. About a teacher that's now like 60. And they are, they have come forward, charges have been brought. They were both victims of him and he was like the cool hip teacher at the high school. And so it has happened, you know, in both ways. But as far as this goes, what's also crazy about this school district is there's another woman in the same Centennial High school. Angela Berlaca, 47, at the same time was also named in a 200 page police report regarding inappropriate teacher student relationships. And this was discovered because rumors of multiple inappropriate Relationships at the school prompted a broader investigation. And then they realized that this 47 year old woman was filming her naked self and sending those videos and photos to multiple boys in which several of the boys of the teams were like, sharing it with each other. And then she even references that teacher in her text. Haley does, and is like, please don't compare me to her. I mean, it's. And then the district is like, seems to be somewhat covering it up, in my opinion. One person has been wanting a full investigation. They're like, no, we're good. She actually has not been arrested. They're still investigating. And of course she's not teaching there right now. I mean, I think the graduation this year will be pretty juicy and interesting. I mean, most graduation ceremonies are pretty dull. It'd be amazing.

[C]

How is the graduation speech going to go this year? Well, we survived. Like, because the one that I was in was. Oh, we all survived.

[A]

Covid Drake graduated in 2021. And so it was like a big every, every speech because there were several teachers who spoke and a valedictorian or two. And it was like, you, my fellow classmates, you have been through a worldwide pandemic. You dealt with the changes of staying at home, being safe, taking online classes, having to see Mr. Snoopy, John's dog, Dr. John whatever's dog. Like all like a dumb joke. Like a dumb Zoom class joke. Remember that?

[C]

And remember when we saw John's dog come in during that Zoom call and we all thought it was so funny and yeah, some of us had our cameras off. Sorry, I never got my camera fixed for four years. But we, we made it. We survived, Covid.

[A]

We're all here. We learned nothing. Okay?

[C]

Okay. So, yes, it would be amazing.

[A]

There is a viral valedictorian speech. Look it up. It's so good. Where this girl basically calls out every shitty person that worked at the school. And it starts out, and you think that she's going to be complimentary, and then she just goes after everybody from the bitch in the front office to the lazy English teacher. And it is. It is a viral speech. And like, the students are kind of cheering. Other people are like, what? Like no one's stopping her. It's kind of crazy. This episode of Juicy Crimes is sponsored by Jones Road Beauty. You guys know I've been telling you that I absolutely love using Jones Road Beauty Miracle Balm because it just gives me that golden hour glow. It's not cakey. It's very natural. And so then once I realized that I was simplifying my routine with a miracle balm. I wanted to try their foundation stick, which is so great. They just launched it. It builds without feeling cakey. It's available in 30 shades with a wide range of skin tones. If you want makeup that brings out your natural glow instead of hiding it, Jones Road is the way to go. For a limited time, RGC scoopers are getting a free gift on their first purchase when they use Code Juicycrimes at checkout. Just head to Jonesroadbeauty.com and use code Juicy Crimes at checkout. After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them I sent you. You guys, I just saw the trailer for Passenger and we've all taken a road trip, right? You've driven, and then you get in that weird space where maybe you're driving at night, it's dark, and the trailer

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starts out and this guy is pulled

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over with his friend and he's just, you know, taking a piss and oh my God, the jump scares all of it. It's so scary. And it's like so creepy because it's kind of like this weird passenger is a demonic presence. And I do like scary movies, especially when it's like the opposite of St. Christopher, who's the patron saint of travelers. You know how I'm into saints. This would be the demonic version of that. And there's just the mysterious symbols shown throughout the trailer, I think are really juicy and I'm very excited to watch this. I'm definitely gonna have to go and see it with a few people, but that's what is fun about seeing a scary movie. So bring someone that likes to be squeezed and go see Passenger only in theaters starting May 22nd. I'm guessing that they're going to make sure, like, go over everyone's speech and make sure that they don't bring it up. And I think someone that is getting asked to speak will probably not want to take the attention away from themselves. So I'm gonna guess it's not. But if it was me, you know, I would definitely make some jokes about it for sure. And I would, I would say, like. And it was like. And as we enter and leave Centennial High School, let us not forget. Let us not forget. Haley Beck really, really seemed to care for her student, not students. Something like that. I'm thinking off the top of my head. It's not that great. Also, also, Amy Beck, mother to Noah Beck, the TikTok star. She's been put on administrative leave. She's a second grade Teacher at Coyote Hills Elementary School. Coyote Hills. That's a pretty appropriate Arizona school, don't you think? Coyote Hills.

[C]

Oh, definitely. Yep.

[A]

Anyway, because they found this video of her in 2020 singing, lip syncing to a song called King's Dead, but it looks like she's mimicking giving a BJ with her son. Again, the videos, the thirst bucket. We both wonder, was Haley jealous of her brother's success? They said that some of the girls said that she brought her brother around to the school to show off. Like this is to the sock.

[C]

To the soccer team.

[A]

To the soccer team. She brought him to the soccer team. Come on. It's a famous tiktoker. And you guys know that have teenagers. A YouTuber or a big tiktoker or an influencer is a way bigger deal than like an actual actor or something, especially to a teenager. So that got her some cred. And it's just really the videos of her in the classroom that people have taken, it is so cringy. It's. She's such a dork. And there's something weird about a dork who's a slut. I don't know. She's a slutty dork and a predator and. And she was getting played. Like, she's still completely in the wrong. But it kind of makes me happy that the guy at least reading the text messages.

[C]

Yeah, was the guy controlled her, basically.

[A]

Good for him. Like, he clearly was not, like, in love. There was a movie out a couple years ago that was a scripted movie. It was kind of based on all of these stories of where a young, like 30 year old or a little bit younger teacher who's married went for her student. And it was so well done. I can't think of its name, but it was so well done. It was like a little miniseries. And it really showed how in the end she was able to get on with her life and marry someone else and have a life and be a mother. But he, from college on, it just really affected him because it was such an imbalance of a relationship and because he really fell for her. So in reading these texts, I think the only good thing about this sick relationship is that this young man didn't seem to be in love with her, though I definitely think he's a victim. And I think that she. I think the reason she hasn't been prosecuted yet is because the sex was after he turned 18. So the grooming and all that that took place will keep her from ever teaching again, I think. But maybe she won't be prosecuted for like statutory rape or what? You know what? That might be so very, very weird on that one. So speaking of kids, there was a very sad incident that happened with these E bikes. There's you know, electric bikes and then there's these surrons or almost like dirt bikes that all these kids are riding. And like, you know, you're like, oh my God, is there a motorcycle gang in my neighborhood? No, they're not men on Harleys. They are 10 to 14 year old boys who are wearing helmets, thank God, like full motorcycle helmets. But these aren't even bikes that have pedals. They are truly like a little motorcycle and they can go really fast. And unfortunately this 81 year old veteran, he's a Vietnam veteran and, and a part time substitute teacher, was walking home and a 14 year old boy hit him, panicked and rode his bike home. And he did die. The old man did die from that. And now the mother of the boy was arrested and is being held accountable for what happened here because, because of the speed of the bike. How fast was the bike that he was on?

[C]

Yeah, so the bike that he was riding is called Class 3E bike, which is basically an E bike that has a certain amount of power, but you're supposed to be 16 years old to be able to ride it. I mean, by law you are supposed to be 16 years old to ride it. And actually now I've learned you you actually have to have a motorcycle's license to ride it as well. But I think she deserved everything that she got. To her, it's the same as giving your kid a car. That's a kid that's 14 years old a car and he goes and kills someone. Like it's not a 14 year old ran his bicycle.

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Wait a minute.

[C]

And these bikes go up to 50 miles an hour. They go very fast.

[A]

Hold on, Drake. Someone that has a license and they buy their child a car, they could be sued because essentially that happened to me. Not to me, but to my family. So my brother was 21 and he had the same last name, same full name as my dad. And he got in a bad car accident while being under the influence and his passenger lost his eye. And that family then of that friend of his was suing my family because they claimed that we owned that my dad had bought the car and owned the car, but he really didn't. It was some old beater car. My brother had a job, he bought the car himself. But because they had the same name and my brother didn't go by Jr. There was that. So that has been something that people sue for. However, it wasn't like a crime that my dad would maybe have to do time for.

[C]

Well, in this case, you could sue anyone for anything though.

[A]

I know. So. But in this case she is looking at like criminal negligence. She is looking at real time in a first of its kind kind of a case because the bike went to the high speeds in which only a 16 year old should have been able to drive that. Yeah, she actually bought him a car. She bought him a bike that he was not legally able to drive. And then, you know, being that he's 14, hit the guy. I don't think he hit him on purpose, but he was being reckless. And then because he's 14, he didn't make the proper decision of like stopping and helping him and immediately calling the police.

[C]

So.

[A]

So it was like an ultimate hit and run.

[C]

So I actually own these bikes and I've been riding them for six plus years since they came out in 2020. And back then nobody had them, nobody knew what they were. And they were street legal back then. But since then, really 2026, they've changed the E bike laws completely. And the problem with this E bike in particular is that it did go up to 50 miles an hour. It's actually not even, you're not even supposed to go over 30 miles an hour now at all on the street. So basically what she gave him was a weapon. It's like, it is like giving someone a car that doesn't have a license. Like, I know you were saying that your brother got sued for that, but.

[A]

No, not, no, my brother went to prison. My dad got sued because they wanted to go where the money is. And they tried to say that my dad bought the car and therefore because the car was involved in the accident that hurt their son, that it, it was a civil case.

[C]

Okay, got it. But she bought her son the bike knowing that he is underage.

[A]

Correct. So I do think she is. This is going to really wake up a lot of parents. And a lot of parents have gotten their kids these bikes because everybody else has one and they're expensive. So it's kind of a wealthy kid issue. And they're happy.

[C]

Bikes are 2,000 to $4,000.

[A]

And I think a lot of parents are like happy that their kids are out and making friends and not in front of their computer. And even though the bike goes fast, unlike just a bicycle, they do wear like a full motorcycle helmet. But I don't think anybody thought about the, the, the damage they could Cause to someone else, I think people are just thinking, oh, my God, this kid's going fast. Hope he doesn't get hurt. And, you know, it's in certain neighborhoods, people are not enjoying this kind of thing anymore. The boys that I just sent. I just sent an article to you, Drake, that they have video of these boys on a golf course tearing up the course. And now the police have shown that video to try to find out which. Which boys are these. But they have full helmets on, so they all kind of look the same. They're just a bunch of white.

[C]

And that's like, the problem. That's the problem with young kids riding the bikes is they don't understand, you know, tearing up grass. And these bikes are powerful. It's not like riding a bicycle on grass, like. And it's like a motorcycle on grass, so it's going to destroy the grass. And they don't realize. They don't know stop signs. They don't realize what they're doing is wrong. And I know young. You're not supposed to be riding it

[A]

anyways, but also, we know young boys, okay? There's a book called Lord of the Flies. The way that young boys can influence each other, peer pressure. It really is like a little. Little gang type of mentality of like, oh, come on, let's go over this hill. Let's go do this. Let's go faster. Let's go. So I'm glad that my kids are older and I don't have to deal with this, because I think it's going to be a real issue for parents to have to figure it out. They probably are all going to have to come together and if their kids are riding these bikes, be like, we need to figure out the speedometer, make it go smaller, or they're just going to have to not ride these bikes until they're 16 and. And get their fat ass on a normal bike and pedal their little legs

[C]

and actually, there was a video recently. I think it was in Ontario or. Where was it? Is that right? Ontario.

[A]

Oh, well, that woman, Washington. She was drunk, though.

[C]

Yeah, well, okay, she. She was drunk, but she was literally driving on the sidewalk, like, trying to mow this kid down on an E bike.

[A]

It was horrible. Like, yeah, but she was drunk. But she'd had it. She'd had it. All right, now let's get into the latest with the singer. David. You know, he has finally been arrested, but a lot of the information has come out, and I just want to talk a little bit about it. What's so Disturbing is David and Celeste met in 2022 when she was 11, 11 in November of 23. Prosecutors allege that an inappropriate sexual relationship began when Celeste was 13

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and then

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in February of 24. So that's, you know, a little over a year later, Celeste was reported missing from Lake Elsinore and police contacted David who claimed he didn't know she was a minor. Now a year later, In February of 25, his video gets released where he wrote a song, it's called One More Dance. And that's where the video shows a body, which I guess is supposed to actually be his body being dragged and put in the trunk of a car. And that's. There was another one. That's where he had the bloody, the shirt with the bloody handprints that he actually sold on his website. That was all available. April 23rd of 2025 is the last day Celeste was known to be alive. She took a ride share to David's Hollywood home at approximately 10:10pm September 8, 2025. Celeste dismembered remains were found in an abandoned Tesla model, Model Y registered to David. So also I want to say on the 24th of April, he did a radio interview about his tour. He also appeared on the Zach Sang podcast show which aired April 28, 2025. So if what the prosecutor is saying is correct, he killed her and then still did all this press in which he seemed very relaxed. There's video of it. He seems completely fine. He was just arrested on April 16th. Now they believe that the motive is that she allegedly threatened to expose the relationship. And I'm assuming that she. They said she, they think that he was probably seeing other women, girls and she got jealous and they were fighting and he was like, fine, come over. And they believe that then maybe based on text messages between them that she was like, oh, I'm gonna tell everybody you're, you know that you got with me and I'm this young and I'm gonna ruin your life and ruin your career. How dare you. Because of course she was probably in love with him, feeling used and feeling that he cheated, they believe. Then he stabbed her several times and allowed her to bleed out. And then the COVID up is he allegedly ordered a shovel, body bags, two chainsaws and a blue inflatable pool via Postmates and Amazon. He was ordering them from two different places. I think one was under a different name, but all to his residence. They believe that he blew up the, the little inflatable pool, put her body in there in the garage and dismembered it because some of the blue plastic from the pool was found with her body parts. And they were able to match all that forensic material together, going back to this is the exact pool that he ordered that was delivered to the house that's now in the body bag with her dismembered body. And they believe that it happened in the garage. And he even texted Celeste after the murder and said, where are you? You know, to. Oh, miss you, honey. What you doing? One of those types of things. So they also. So I wondered what the defense was. So I was looking into what the defense would be. They've pled not guilty. He is being held without bail in prison. And they are saying that they. That the defense says that the actual evidence will show that he did not murder Celeste. There are some people speculating that there isn't evidence to prove that he did it in the garage of his home, and maybe he did it in Santa Barbara. So, meanwhile, the public speculation, as I said, is that the prosecution points to the garage, citing blood and plastic fragments from the pool, but the defense says that actual evidence will contradict that. So I've always said, I think there is a third party involved, somebody who is going to be a surprise witness for either the prosecution or the defense that's going to put the blame on either prosecution, someone who knew what was going on, flipped and gave them the evidence they needed to prove that it was David, or. Or there was somebody else that the defense is going to use to say this. He was the one who was obsessed with David's life and set this all up for it to look like David. My question is, if it was David who did it, which it appears it was, why did he dismember the body? Because in other cases where there's dismemberment, which I cannot wrap my head around because I don't even like to, like, deal with, like, a turkey on Thanksgiving. So I can't even imagine cutting a body of somebody and somebody, you know, to cover it up. In one of the cases I've done on Juicy Crimes, a woman was convicted of that with her husband because they had the evidence, but they also thought she was a small woman and there was no way that she could get the body from the townhome out without dismembering it. So she did it in the. In the bathtub and then put it in different rolling suitcases.

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case, he would be big enough, I think to take her body and put it in the trunk of his car and bury it or dump it or something else. So I just really don't know why he would dismember it. That is very sick. And maybe that's something he had a fantasy about. He wrote songs about this. He did a video and things about this type of, you know, Rome. What, what did he have? A, a song Homicide. Homicidal love.

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I don't remember.

[A]

Look that up. I think he had something Homicidal love he had and you know, he, he, he was homeschooled. He like, he wasn't living like a rough thug life. He was like a homeschooler who started doing music on social media. I also question if you put this in the trunk of his car and he left the, the car like on, just on a street and someone kept seeing it and they called the tow trunk. Tow. The tow company to tow it. When the towing company picked it up and brought it to the tow lot, that's when they smelled what they knew, which I guess they knew the smell of it or I've never smelled a decomposing body. But people say it's a smell like no other. They call the police in which then they discover the body and discover that he is the registered owner of this Tesla. Was he trying to. Was he thinking that the car would be left. There's been crimes where men have killed their wives and left the car. Left their wife's car in a bad neighborhood, in a parking lot of a cheap hotel with the keys left in it, hoping that someone would steal it. To add to the narrative that, oh my God, whoever stole her car also probably killed her or whatever. Was he thinking that someone would steal this Tesla? Also very stupid of him because a Tesla with all its technology and its weird key, which is like a credit card, I don't believe that they get stolen very often. I think it's almost like an impossibility. Drake, you've owned a Tesla.

[C]

Okay, yeah, I've had Tesla before. I mean, I would say it'd be impossible for someone to steal a Tesla, but going back to this song that you were talking about, it's called Romantic homicide, came out 2022, which is about probably when he first met her. Right?

[A]

When she was 11.

[C]

11. Yeah. And she died in 2025 at 14. Yeah, yeah, pretty. I mean, I always thought when I saw the songs, I was like. And then we saw those tick tock things about it's like an investigation and it's like, well, all we gotta do is just listen to your song here.

[A]

God. Anyway, it was. So that's where we're with that. The brother has now releasing some new music. His brother, while he's in prison, wants to take this opportunity to step into the spotlight while it's still hot for him. I don't know, I guess, why wait if you're an artist too? I don't know, but I. I thought that was very strange. Oh, you know what, I forgot to ask you about, Drake. When we were talking about teachers, you were saying that you were not a favorite of the teachers. I feel like you were kind of a know it all. And I don't think they like a know it all. And when do you think the teacher started to turn on you a little bit?

[C]

Well, they don't. A lot of teachers don't like to know it all. A lot of teachers like you just to follow their directions and stuff. But, I mean, I. I would say I've been. I would say targeted from teachers. I would say in fifth grade is when it started.

[A]

That's when it took a turd.

[C]

Yeah, there. There was a story at my elementary school or my.

[A]

What?

[C]

My middle school.

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Yeah, well, it was all.

[C]

It's all the same thing. It was this situation where we were in art class and me and my friends walked in another room and supposedly we damaged a art project, but it was a large piece of paper on the floor. There's no way anyone could have known it was an art project. And then the teacher behind our back like accused us of doing all this stuff and we had to write an apology note. But in high school it switched to that. The. Yeah, the teacher didn't like me in high school either. Really?

[A]

Why? Because you were challenging it. You were saying like, it just feels like, like you're just held captive there for like.

[C]

That's right. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, I felt like teacher, like teachers in high school, they really got you held down there for seven hours and they want to make sure that they get every joke out their whole material. And I guess like the joy of being a teacher is that next year you just have a whole new audience.

[A]

Oh my gosh. I think you're right. Now listen, I have a lot of respect for teachers. I know a lot of juicy scoopers are teachers, but I think that you would even attest that there's some that might get into the, into the profession for the wrong reasons. Like, you know, you are always going to be the smartest in the room. You are the only one in charge. As challenging as, as it is for a certain personality, it might be the career that they go into that really they should not be doing. They really should go pursue stand up comedy. They really should build their own tick tock audience. They shouldn't sleep with their students and they shouldn't try to be cute and funny because they're not doing, they're not good at it.

[C]

I, I always thought it was interesting and this is just not to all the teachers out there, but just in general, when there is a young teacher in their 20s that they, I, I find it interesting that they choose to teach high schoolers in particular.

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Yeah, I do think, I thought that was weird too.

[C]

Yeah, like why wouldn't you want to teach kids if you, you know, you're going to have a kid as well around that age and you'd want to be teaching other kids, young kids.

[A]

I think like anything else, just like a lawyer becomes an expert because they only practice family law or they only practice criminal defense. It's like, yes, you're a lawyer, you could practice all the law, but you really only know this. You can't expect someone to know every subject. So I just think they kind of fall into it where, that's where there's an opening. It's Sophomore English and The girl is 25 and she has the credentials to do it and she ends up being at the high school because it was always weird when there was like a younger teacher.

[C]

Also as a 25 year old, do you really want to go back to high school after you just graduated like five years ago?

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I know, but I just, I just think that's what it is. I just think you end up there and like anything, if you fit in now, you have the curriculum done and you just teach the same thing every year. So you know, you have the summers off and you don't really go. You know what? I think I'd like to go back down to middle school. You just get started there and if you're a good teacher, you stay there for 30 years and you have a great career and everyone loves you and people thank you at the Oscars and it's all positive. But for some people it can just be a series of you have the wrong personality, you're there for the wrong reasons, you're too young, you get put in a position, you're marrying someone you don't love, you're jealous of your TikTok brother, you're heavy and now you're thin. You want to get you wished you were cool in high school. You're reliving your high school life, you're flirting with the sky. Seven years ago, no one paid attention to you. Now everyone's paying attention to you eight hours a day. You have power to pass someone, fail someone. You have power to give someone money and have them go down on you like.

[C]

And based on the videos that we've seen in the classroom, I think that's almost exactly what happened. I mean it looked like she was just trying to be the popular high school girl again and it was, it's just strange. I mean, I can't say that I can relate to having a teacher like that because the only young teacher I had was pretty professional in high school. Young, 20 something year old.

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Was that a guy or girl?

[C]

It was a girl, like a history teacher. But she only stayed for one or two years and then I think she moved or something.

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Okay, well, none of your friends were dating her?

[C]

Nope. I don't know what happened to her.

[A]

Okay, very good. Now I'm going to tell you the story of Lynette Hooker. You may have heard about this. Unfortunately, she's still missing. She's a 55 year old Michigan woman who disappeared from a boat in the Bahamas in April of 26. And this is. She has not been Found. And the story was quite interesting because of our own boating history. Her husband, Brian Hooker, who is her second husband. I know this because her daughter, right off the bat, did, like, a podcast interview in which she was, you know, questioning her stepdad's story. She said that they did have a volatile relationship and that she played his voicemail message, which kind of conflicted his original story. So his original story was

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he.

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He said they were traveling in their dinghy at night. So the. They're in the Bahamas. They have their boat, their bigger boat, call Soulmate. They took the dinghy. So it was like, you know, on an anchor. Took the dinghy into the beach town. And one bartender was interviewed, and he said they had two Rub and Cokes each and were like, kind of lounging around for a few hours. And he was nice, and they weren't fighting or anything. And he tipped the bartender. They get in the dinghy, and then he says that he realized his wife was no longer on board. I'm going to show you a photo right now of them in the dinghy.

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It is extremely small.

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I just think that's a weird way to say it. It's not like you were looking. I don't know if he could be looking ahead. And she was on the backside. And he.

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Yeah, it was extremely small, the boat.

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I mean, extremely small to not. But maybe you weren't looking at each other. Maybe he was like. Like this doing the thing, and she was like, behind him.

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And like you said, or you didn't say it yet, but. But she had the key attached to her wrist. So as soon as she fell out of the boat, the engine did cut off. So that would be pretty clear sign that to turn around.

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So I guess that's when he realized, allegedly, that she fell out of the boat. Neither of them were wearing their life jackets. And he then, I guess, threw the round lifesaver, and he didn't hold on to it.

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And they didn't have any life jackets on board either.

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Right. So he couldn't.

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And it was nighttime as well in the Bahamas, and it was windy. And if you. If anyone has ever been on a boat at night, in the ocean or the lake, you. You would know. You literally cannot see anything. And a dinghy has no lights either.

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All true. Where. What they're saying now is they are seeking out the public's help to identify a mystery sailboat that may have witnessed her final moments. So apparently there was some sailboat that might have seen something, and they're wondering, was that you? Who knows? I Think that's a. A hard grass.

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If anyone's on that sailboat that happens to be listening to juicy crimes, please let us know.

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Yeah, we would love to be responsible for helping to solve something. So, you know, right away, Peter, my husband, who is. Has got his captain's license. He was really defending this guy. And I was like, okay, you know, Peter, just. It's a little fishy. Like, it's a little fishy.

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And also, this is how he explained it to me. He goes, so I. On the list of strong ocean swimmers, here's. Here's the best ocean swimmer in the world right here. Here's the average person. And I'm maybe right there. Right there. So I'm basically the best swimmer in the world, and I would never be able to swim at night. There's no possible way. And the wind was way too high. I mean, I. I rescued professional triathletes

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from Oceanside, but that's when he was, like, 22. Okay, so let's just. Here's the thing. I was like, peter, I just think to the average person, it sounds like he wasn't a good husband. I understand what you're saying. Should he have jumped out and tried to save her? Maybe he couldn't see her. What he's saying is, I don't know where she was. Why did he. And then he was dumb enough to throw the lifesaver and not hold on to it. Then he doesn't have the boat, the motor of the boat. So then he's paddling. But it seems like he went out of his way and around. Is it because he was buzzed? Is it because he was dark? Was he panicking? It seems like there was a lot of time before he shared with authorities that she had fallen out. I think it's hard to believe that he would take this opportunity, the dinghy to the main boat, to kill her. I do. I'm gonna say there's enough doubt that if you're sailing on a boat and you're alone together on the soulmate boat out in the middle of the ocean, it just seems like there would be a. And your goal was to have her be dead before you came back. Like, there just seems to be a better way to do that on a trip. They call it an Alpine divorce. Instead of getting divorced, you do something like an activity, like, let's go hike up towards the Alpines. In this particular case, like, you're by yourself in the. In the sea. You could. It would be much more likely to say, like, knock her over the head. And throw her over and then say she was. That she was an alcoholic, she was boozing, and she slipped and fell. I just don't think that you would think to push her off this tiny dinghy.

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Yeah, I mean, I. I think it has to do with part of, like, maybe he's not a smart guy or something, but there is a lot of holes in his story.

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There are a lot of holes, but

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at the same time, I. I could see how, like, he could be telling. He might just be a really bad storyteller and it's making him look worse than he is, basically. Because I. I could agree, like, if it was nighttime and it was windy, I mean, it would be almost impossible to save someone. And no life jackets or anything.

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I. I think that, yeah, because if he would have jumped out of the boat, he doesn't have a life jacket either. And if he can't see where she is, maybe he's like, let me paddle to try to find her. And then after an hour or two, he never found her. Then he goes and tries to get help.

[C]

Yeah, that too.

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Yeah, that would kind of make sense as well. You know, a lot of people don't wear the life jackets. I've joked about the life jacket thing. We had something happen where we took our catamaran to Catalina island, which is like a couple hours. Dot. We did the anchor of the boat, and then we took the dinghy with my friend and her husband, and the four of us took the electric dinghy, whatever, the gas dinghy. What would you call it?

[C]

Yeah, it's a dinghy. It's a small boat that you use to get to land if you have a big boat, basically.

[A]

Right. So we get on that, we go to this little place, we get dinner or something, and then we start heading back. And all of a sudden, the boat stops and both of the guys are pulling it and pulling it, and we cannot start it. Now it is starting to get dark, and we have the paddles and we're paddling it, and it is a distance to where our boat is. And I'm kind of like, oh, fuck. And that's what I did. SOS Juicy Scoopers, I need your help. And I thank God had my phone and Instagram was working. And I said, we are near this part of Catalina. We are stuck in a dinghy that doesn't work. Is anyone else out there with a boat? And sure enough, someone was, and they were a rich, juicy scooper because they were on a boat with or they knew somebody or something that had, like, the Actual like yachties that you see on below deck, like wearing their little outfits and they came out on their Tinder dinghy boat, whatever you want to call it, and got us, pulled us to our boat and then we just used the water taxis. The rest of the time that we were in Catalina, we didn't use that anymore.

[C]

And actually now that I'm thinking about it, like below deck, remember they would get so mad if the people would jump in the water, the crew. Yeah, yeah. Because they probably because this scenario would happen. And then they're like, you know, if you go underneath the water, how are we going to save you? I don't know. I just thought of that though.

[A]

Yes, I kind of. I am leaning towards the fact. I think what they're trying to do is looking to see if there was. If he had a girlfriend, if he was in financial trouble, if he just bought a big life insurance policy on her that she wasn't made aware of, if she had made calls to divorce attorney, if anything else had happened prior to that night in which it looked like they were in marital trouble also. I mean, it's just kind of an embarrassing thing as a man that this happened and you look like you're not a chivaless. Chivalry shiver. Chivaless. Anyway, I was saying that word.

[C]

Is that where shiver me timbers comes from?

[A]

What word? What?

[C]

Shiver me timbers?

[A]

No, it's shiver like chivalry is not dead. What I'm trying to say is chivalry is not dead. Unless your wife falls in the water and you don't have a life jacket and it's cold and you don't want to go. I don't know, I. When I first heard the story, I thought Bahamas are always warm, it's always clear water. I call bs. This guy did it. And upon further inspection and looking at it, I think maybe he is innocent. So we'll see what happens. I think it's going to be a hard thing to. You'd have to really present a very circumstantial case in that, you know, there was a real reason for him to do this and that he was better off without her than with her. So that's a hard thing to prove, I think at like 55, unless you totally have a girlfriend or something else. Okay. Another crime I want to talk about is this happening in San Diego? This is Maya and Larry Millet. Maya is a 39 year old mother of three and she and her husband Larry met when she was 8, 19 and he was 18. They got married young In Honolulu. They. They worked for the military. They were in Chula Vista with the three kids, and one day, she was not returning text messages to her family, and she was very good about that, and family members were worried. They went to the house, and they're like, where is Maya? And he's like, oh, she's upstairs, but the door's locked. They're like, well, that's weird. Let's go up there. And when they opened the door, she wasn't there. And he's like, oh, she must have gone on a hike. Well, I found out lots of things. Okay. Before arresting him. This happened a few years ago and the trial starting now. It's had many delays, but they found out that she had revealed to a. They did over, like, 67 interviews. They had 80 tips. A bunch of, you know, a bunch of things put together that. Of what. What they're drawing this case about. Someone that was close to her said that she. That he did get physical with her and choked her to the point where she passed out. That is very telling, because if he did it once, maybe this other time, they got an argument, and he took it a step further, and actually she never regained consciousness. They have never found the body, and that always makes it very difficult. The last call that she made was to a divorce attorney. The other weird thing is that she told somebody she wanted to get divorced. But the other weird thing is that he had given several hundred dollars to spellcasters. He found someone that would do a spell for money to make his wife fall back in love with him, also do a spell about some other man that he thought was coming between them. So, I mean, first when I heard that it was a spellcaster, I was like, oh, was he trying to put, like, a voodoo spell to have her die? No, he didn't want her to die. He just wanted her to stay obedient and be in love with him forever. And she had had it. She was moving on. So that's happening in San Diego now. My latest thing is a little bit just wanted to end on the Blake Lively situation. This chapter of Juicy Scoop has come to an end. The chapter of Blake Lively versus Justin Baldoni is done. The settlement is technically confidential, but a joint statement released by their attorneys offered a few clues. So in Lively's validation statement, it said that concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserve to be heard. So that was a way of them putting it out there, that she is sticking with her initial complaint that she was sexually harassed and that he was a weirdo on set and nobody liked it including her and some other people. The smear campaign. Lively had originally claimed that Baldoni hired publicists to bury her and ruin her reputation by settling. The evidence regarding these alleged smear tactics will remain largely out of the public record. So that is something that I. I believed her from the beginning. I thought the smear campaigns were real. There's been so much evidence that would prove otherwise, so it's hard to say. And then finally, Lively dropped her remaining three claims. The retaliation, breach of contract and aiding and abetting and Beldoni's massive 400 million defamation countersuit, which had already been largely dismantled by a judge. So now that's all effectively buried. So Blake Lively got $0 but she avoided trial and you know, hopefully moved on. She showed up the day that this was announced at the Met Ball, which she has attended many in many years in the past, not with Ryan, her husband, but alone in a big flowy pretty dress on theme or whatever. And some people thought that was obnoxious and weird. I think it's on brand for her. I think it was smart for her to do and you might as well move on and not miss a great party. Whether you had to pay a hundred thousand or not, the money goes to charity, so it all looks good for her. Justin Baldoni got $0, but he avoided trial and he protected his production company, Sony Wayfarer. They retained the film's profits without further legal liability. I don't know if anybody's ever going to watch this movie again. I don't know what's going to happen with the sequel. But the legal teams are the ones that came out on top with the combined fees adding to approximately $60 million for these lawyers. So what is the lesson to be learned? Well,

[C]

that the lawyers always went right.

[A]

Yes. Also is in this world of social media and scrutiny in the past, a star would never know that people were talking about her because she wouldn't be opening up her TikTok and seeing it and seeing someone saying she was a or she didn't look me in the eye or all these things in which Blake Lively thought that Justin Baldoni was feeding to the press and thus people picking it up and making her have this reputation to be that she is a horrible person and so is what's her. Ryan's last name? Her husband.

[C]

Ryan Reynolds.

[A]

Yeah. And that Ryle Ryan. Ryan Reynolds is an awful person too. We wouldn't have known about her messages to her former best friend.

[C]

I actually agree. Like, I always thought Ryan Reynolds was. Was a cool guy until this all came out.

[A]

It all came out. It all what? I think the lesson to be learned, social media is not going away. And everybody that's ever met you at Target, at a grocery store, at a restaurant, five years from now, you might be in your car now listening to Juicy Scoop. Five years from now, you might be famous. You might have a business that you sold for $200 million. You might marry someone rich. You might be a famous person yourself. And that person that you met at Target or waited on you is going to have a story, and they're going to tell their story. And depending on how hot you are, it may be a good story or it might be a horrible story. What you need to do is to ignore it, okay? Ignore it. Do your work. Do your thing. I've said this before. When the alleged Spear campaign even happened, it was after the movie had come out. No one was even talking about the movie anymore. And I was like, oh, people think she's kind of a. So what? I immediately thought, so what? That this makeup artist is saying that she was a cold, but Naomi Watts was a delight.

[B]

That's his opinion.

[A]

Like, what does it matter? No one would have. Think how quickly these stories go away. She was just not having it. She wanted control of the next movie. She wanted her story out there. Other people can say it's because she actually was attracted to him and he wasn't attracted to her that she turned the story around. Who knows what came first? I feel like both of them were. Were a little weird, and neither of them is completely innocent in all of this. However, you know, what a nightmare. But I don't blame Justin Baldoni for sticking up for himself if she was claiming things happened that he didn't do. But I also think if she would have just said it and just, like, enjoyed her four kids and worked on something really cool and came out with it a year later, no one would have remembered and they would have talked about your next thing. You're only as good as your latest show. So each of them need to get another show, a movie, a TV show, something that's really cool that they're part of. And this will be one of those stories. Like, remember that weird thing? Because there was. It was interesting to talk about and I talked about a lot of it, but I could even feel that you guys were getting over it. Like, after a while, you're just like, who cares, though? It would have been really fun to see Taylor Swift have to take the stand as one of her dragons. That would have been amazing. But we will never have that moment.

[C]

Maybe they're gonna make like a court movie out of this. Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, they work together again.

[A]

Oh, well, I don't think they would do it, but someone can take all the information and put it together. But I kind of am going to say I don't think that they will because whoever does it then will be an enemy of Blake and Ryan, who are still very rich and powerful, or an enemy of Beldoni and his powerful backer, who is the wayfarer billionaire guy. So I think this is not the story I'd run to see the Haley Beck and Noah Beck and that. That I would like to see as a lifetime movie.

[C]

I. I'm curious to see how this

[A]

one, I will take that one. You could almost do like a dark comedy of I don't want a lifetime. I want it like a weird dark comedy about this story. Something needs to happen with that.

[C]

And they also got to ask Noah, like, about his sister too, because that's really who we want to see.

[A]

I think that's why you said you haven't seen him. I think he's smart enough to just take a step back, see where this lands. He probably listens to Juicy Scoop. He's like, just take the summer off. Take the summer off. Put your phone away. No one will. No one will be worried about you. You don't need to announce you're leaving social media. Just go away and then come back a few months later with some cool. And the people that still followed you still follow you. So you just can come back whatever you want. Sometimes you just need to go the f away. And now it's time for me to go away. Thank you for listening to Juicy Crimes. Spread the word. Subscribe you can watch on my YouTube channel under juicy Scoop. Juicy Crimes are both on the same channel. And of course, follow [e-mail] where you join Patreon. Thank you.

[C]

Thank you.

[D]

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