Brandy and Julie, Golden Globes and Manifesting Greek Tragedies

Summary

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Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Episode: Brandy and Julie, Golden Globes and Manifesting Greek Tragedies

Date: January 13, 2026
Guests: Brandy Howard & Julie Goldman (Dumb Gay Podcast)
Main Theme:
This episode is a whirlwind of Hollywood tales, award show fashion, pop culture gossip, and a comedic skewering of the latest trends in life-coaching, Real Housewives franchises, and celebrity drama. Heather is joined by the hilarious duo Brandy Howard and Julie Goldman as they break down the big post-Golden Globes buzz, dish on the manifesting-mogul trend in Beverly Hills, and mock the absurdity of reality TV's recent Greek tragedies. The trio’s candid, irreverent banter makes for an entertaining—and sometimes biting—exploration of what’s happening in entertainment and beyond.

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Highlights & Main Discussion Points

1. Juicy Start to 2026 & The "Stacked Chips" Mentality

• The episode opens with upbeat talk about 2026 ambitions; Brandy and Julie joke about "Stacked Chips 26," aiming to manifest wealth and success (02:25).
• “We’re planning on getting very rich this year.” — Brandy (02:35)

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2. Spotify’s Golden Globes Podcast Party & Star Encounters

• The hosts recap attending a glitzy Spotify party celebrating podcasts at the Golden Globes (03:11).
• Notable attendees: Amy Poehler (now a Golden Globes winner), Mel Robbins, Rita Wilson, Jane Seymour.
• Heather shares a humorous “who wore it better” moment with Jane Seymour—both wore the same dress (04:03).
• “The woman is stunning in person... she was irritated that one such as I, such a monster as myself, would dare to speak to her.” — Julie on Jane Seymour, tongue-in-cheek (04:49)
• Banter about Jane Seymour's acting legacy, and Julie laments her regrets with a cheeky complaint about being auto-billed for "Crepe Erase" cream (05:46).

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3. Wild Celebrity Gossip: The NFL Star’s “Too Big” Lawsuit

• Discussion of NFL star Matt Kalil suing his ex-wife, influencer Haley Bailey, after she commented (on Twitch) his penis was “as big as two Coke cans and affected their intimacy” (07:25).
• The group debates the absurdity and ego behind the lawsuit:
  • “You can't win... now this lady’s out here saying his dick is so big, she can’t deal with it, and he’s even mad about that.” — Julie (07:54)
  • “Now you’re giving small dick energy, which is bizarre because your dick is two Coke cans...” — Brandy (13:27)
• Heather gives classic pop culture advice: Ignore the drama; lawsuits only make it worse. “If you ignore it, if you don’t comment, if you don’t address it, you…can ignore the smell or ignore the comment…” (09:49)
• Relates this to infamous tabloid lawsuits (Joanna Krupa vs. Brandi Glanville).
• “It’s giving… and by the way, I think we should get rid of ‘it’s giving’ in 2026.” — Heather (08:55)

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4. Golden Globes Fashion, Winners, & Memorable Moments

Nikki Glaser’s Hosting:

• Praise for Nikki Glaser’s second year as host, highlighting her balance of edginess and kindness.
  • “She’s the American Ricky Gervais... she’s really, really, really good.” — Julie (20:26)
• Dissection of her joke to Leonardo DiCaprio: (21:09–21:32)
  • “I’m sorry I had to make that joke, but literally there’s nothing else you know about your personal life except that you date much younger women…”
• Debate over who writes the host and presenters’ jokes (Heather shares inside scoop: writers offer material, but presenters can add/tweak) (22:58).

Fashion Reactions:

• Kylie Jenner’s golden dress and her “partner” status with Timothée Chalamet lauded as “to die for” (23:55).
• Jennifer Lawrence’s “sheer/flower” dress dividing opinion—beautiful, but see-through “making me think of a huge bush…like Adam and Eve and I’m wearing leaves” — Brandy (33:02).
• Kate Hudson called “stunning...best look she’s ever had” at the event, compared favorably to previous missteps (34:40).
• JLo’s iconic look praised (with minor bronzer critiques): “She always delivers” — Brandy (36:18).
• Playful ribbing of couples’ coordinating outfits and 60s “capelet” looks (37:26).

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5. Pop Culture Lexicon: “Karen” Becomes “Jessica”

• The group laughs about Gen Z’s new label for “Karen”: millennials get called “Jessica” (16:05).
  • Brandy: “I wish there was something with a J… but I do like it.” (16:32)
  • “It’s just not going to happen… stop making fetch happen. It’s Karen!” — Heather (16:56)

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6. Timothée Chalamet & Kylie Jenner Relationship: Caitlyn Jenner Gives Her Blessing

• Heather shares her chat with Caitlyn Jenner, who “approves” of Timothée for Kylie (25:03–26:07).
  • “They’ve been together three years…they’re a great match…” (25:59)
• Brief discussion of Kendall Jenner addressing rumors about her sexuality: “She said, no, I’m not [gay]. But it’s funny that people always kind of thought that.” (26:24–26:38)
• Hilarious tangent about straight women wanting wives, best friends, and the appeal of same-gender companionship in aging (28:24–30:39).
  • “Every woman wants a wife. Because that’s what we are. Even in a friendship, we’re wives.” — Julie (31:17)

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7. Housewives Deep Dives: OC, Beverly Hills, Salt Lake City

OC Casting Update:

• Katie Janela (OC’s first Korean housewife) is out, leading to speculation about OG returns for the show’s 20th season (50:45).
  • “I think they’re going to bring back OG’s …whole season’s just going to be like, memories and like amigas.” — Heather

Salt Lake City: Greek Tragedy Episode:

• A critical look at a bizarre RHOSLC segment where cast members perform a Greek tragedy about each other in Greece, with pointed self-revelations and shade (52:45–55:26).
  • “I was actually—I loved it!...the woman nailed almost all of them.” — Julie (54:05)
  • “It was a take on when they get in costumes and then get in fights—which is another thing that we love.” — Julie (54:17)
• Commentary on reality TV tropes: reckless games, forced group vulnerability, and “dragging” each other to filth in front of cameras (55:15–56:51).
• Brandy praises cast member Bronwyn for “owning it” and becoming “quite likable this season” after an emotional moment (56:34–56:51).
• Gossip about a cast member (Heather Gay) allegedly getting her stomach pumped after one too many espresso martinis (57:50–58:07).

Beverly Hills & The Manifesting Grift:

• Amanda’s rise on RHOBH as a “manifesting” coach charging up to $11k/session lampooned by Heather and the gang.
  • Extended parody of “manifesting” culture and multi-level marketing (MLM) lingo, including mock “10 Commandments of Heather’s Hilarious Abundance of Money.” (63:13):
    1. Wake up and say, I’m worth it.
    2. Feed your soul with breakfast.
    3. Stretch—your body and your money.
    4. Walk around and say, ‘I deserve to be rich.’
    5. Sex sells…maybe try OnlyFans.
    6. If you can’t do it alone, find a partner who’s rich.
    7. Do what seems natural.
    8. Start a podcast.
  • “Start a podcast. Everyone wants to listen to your thoughts. And all you have to do is get a mic.” — Heather (65:17)
  • “See it, say it, believe it, achieve it, be it.” — Entire group, mocking manifesting slogans (68:44)

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8. Final Juicy Pop Culture Quips & Sign-Off

• The wrap-up covers:
  • How reality TV castmembers are never snarky about certain beloved personalities, and how the group isn’t afraid to call out selective criticism (70:29).
  • Heather and Brandy’s real-life “retirement plan” to live together like “Gertrude and Gladys”—a testament to the show’s blend of comedy and genuine friendship (29:25, revisited throughout).
• Preview/promotion for Brandy & Julie’s upcoming live show and podcasts, and tease of “Juicy Crimes” episodes (72:45).

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Notable Quotes (with timestamps)

• “We’re planning on getting very rich this year.” — Brandy (02:35)
• “The woman is stunning in person... she was irritated that one such as I—such a monster as myself—would dare to speak to her.” — Julie Goldman on Jane Seymour (04:49)
• “You can’t win… now this lady’s out here saying his dick is so big, she can’t deal with it, and he’s even mad about that.” — Julie (07:54)
• “If you ignore it, if you don’t comment, if you don’t address it, you…can ignore the smell or ignore the comment…” — Heather (09:49)
• “She’s the American Ricky Gervais... she’s really, really, really good.” (regarding Nikki Glaser hosting) — Julie (20:26)
• “Every woman wants a wife. Because that’s what we are. Even in a friendship, we’re wives.” — Julie (31:17)
• “Start a podcast. Everyone wants to listen to your thoughts. And all you have to do is get a mic.” — Heather (65:17)
• “See it, say it, believe it, achieve it, be it.” — Brandy, Julie, Heather lampooning manifesting culture (68:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Spotify Party/Golden Globes Fashion: 03:11–15:16
• NFL Lawsuit & Celebrity Court Cases: 07:25–13:29
• Golden Globes Recap (Nikki Glaser, Fashion): 19:56–37:50
• Timothée & Kylie / Kendall’s Rumors: 25:02–27:22
• Housewives News & Greek Tragedy Recap: 50:45–56:51
• Manifesting Guru Parody & “Abundance” Rant: 61:04–68:44

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Episode Vibe & Tone

• Outlandishly funny, brutally honest, gossipy, and fast-paced with relentless pop culture takes.
• Self-aware skewering of both pop culture targets and themselves.
• Plenty of camaraderie, tangents, and running jokes poking fun at both the industry and female friendship tropes.

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For The Juicy Scoop Fan Who Missed It

This episode is a must-listen if you want:

• The inside scoop on awards season parties and the chaotic energy of Golden Globes week.
• Blunt, comedic hot takes on the Real Housewives universe, influencer scandals, and the latest “manifesting” craze.
• A playful, satirical look at how celebrity culture and reality TV overlap—and why we can’t look away.

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Find Brandy & Julie:

• Dumb Gay Politics
• Patreon: “Patreon’s where it’s at!” (72:57)

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Stay tuned for Juicy Crimes with Brandy & Julie on Juicy Scoop every Wednesday!

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[Brandy Howard]

So far we are calling it Stacked Chips 26.

[Heather McDonald]

Stacked Chips 26.

[Brandy Howard]

You know like you stack the chips when you're gambling, you know.

[Heather McDonald]

Drake. Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

We are planning on getting very rich this year.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, great. And are you going through Amanda's Rich as fuck. Coaching courses of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

[Brandy Howard]

Well, I wanted to, but she can manifest. Got a personal problem with Amanda, apparently.

[Heather McDonald]

So we're gonna get into Amanda later. We gotta talk about. We gotta go in our order of week here, which started us our fun party.

[Brandy Howard]

I say 2026 started out with a. Because you invited us to a very, like, swanky. One of our other friends, Jacques, said it was the best party he's been to since he moved to la and he's been here two years now.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, good.

[Brandy Howard]

So good.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I was. I was thrilled to go as well. We went to the Spotify party, which was kind of honoring the podcast category for the Golden Globes. That was Thursday night and it was very. It was a lot of executive. But there were some stars there there. And some nominees. Amy Poehler now winner. Mel Robbins, Rita Wilson. Oh, who are some other big bills. Oh, Bill was there.

[Julie Goldman]

Jane Seymour. Oh, the honorary Miss Lady.

[Heather McDonald]

I want to go back because Jane Seymour was wearing this outfit and I had worn the same outfit as well, the same dress. And so there it is side by side.

[Julie Goldman]

That just two legendary.

[Heather McDonald]

We kind of like the same colored hair. Yeah. It was probably the same size dress. Maybe she's a little smaller than I am.

[Brandy Howard]

Did it inspire you? Maybe, like, did you get rid of the dress or do you still have it in the closet?

[Heather McDonald]

No, I still have it. It's only. But it's only less than a year old.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah. Like, you can wear it with a blazer now and make a whole new look. Yeah, the black blazer. No one will even know it's the same dress. It's like so cute.

[Heather McDonald]

I was good with a black blazer.

[Brandy Howard]

You're right.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. I don't think it looks that good with the white blazer. I think she. Yeah, I think you need like a black. I was always thinking of a silver. But you're right. I think black is better. Black would have black blazer with like a silver button.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Welcome to Fashion Police. We actually are going to get into Fashion Police in a minute. Going back to our night, I just.

[Julie Goldman]

Want to say that I did talk to her.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, I know you did.

[Julie Goldman]

And so I just need to put that out there. The woman is stunning in person. She's tiny and stunning. And also she was irritated that one such as I, such a monster as myself, would go up to even dare to speak to her. But I don't care.

[Heather McDonald]

I loved every second of it, witnessed the exchange. And I did not get that from her. I did not. But your Experience is your experience, and no one can take that experience from you. I thought she was happy and nice to say hi me. And I didn't know if you're BSing and saying, like, I've never missed a day of all my children, not all my no hair. Right now.

[Julie Goldman]

She's on a new show on Acorn.

[Brandy Howard]

TV that Julie does watch.

[Julie Goldman]

I've watched every episode.

[Heather McDonald]

It's like a what about Jane Seymour? You guys, like legendary actress.

[Julie Goldman]

She's like, she's also creeperace. And I wanted to tell her, you know what?

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, wait, she was Dr. Quinn, medicine woman.

[Brandy Howard]

And she was.

[Heather McDonald]

Was she ever on a. So I want to say, did she start as girl? She was a girl.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah. She was a famous Bond girl. I don't think she was on a. So, okay. I thought maybe she was, though.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, maybe not.

[Brandy Howard]

But she was Dr. Quinn.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. But most importantly, she's from a movie called Somewhere in Time with Christopher Reeve and it's one of my all time faves. And also crepe race. And I just did want to let her know, you know what I don't appreciate? I want to try crepe race. I want to try my neck firming. And I don't appreciate that you subscribed me to an entire thing and now I'm into you for like 200 bucks a month. I'm not into it.

[Brandy Howard]

I don't think she still is the brand ambassador for creperies.

[Julie Goldman]

Well, I wanted to tell her that I had to call and say that, you know, this is a one time purchase only and I just wanted to try moisturizing and I don't need like a whole thing.

[Heather McDonald]

Just wanted to try. You never tried moisturizing before in your entire life?

[Julie Goldman]

Not really. I haven't.

[Heather McDonald]

So there really weren't many podcaster friends there or podcasters in general. But what was great is some of her friends were there. Jacques from from Daily Mail, who's been on Juicy Scoop. And we're all friends. He was there with, of course, Zach Peter, who we're close friends with. So we had fun with them. And then I ran into Haley Bailey, who is this huge influencer and model and she was just in the news because her ex husband, Matt Kalil, he's a football player. Do you know him? He's an NFL player. He is suing her because she did a live twitch after they broke up, in which she said part of the reason they broke up is that his penis was so big. I believe I read somewhere she compared it to like two Coke cans.

[Brandy Howard]

I love this story.

[Heather McDonald]

And that it did affect their intimacy. That really twitched in the wrong way. No pun intended. And he has filed suit saying that those words of hers are really affecting his life. Her attorneys have said it's her First Amendment right to share her story in her life. And also in these defamation suits. You'd have to prove that somehow.

[Brandy Howard]

Get that measuring tape out, bitch.

[Julie Goldman]

Whip your dick out. Get the coat can see what's doing. You know what? You can't win. I'm sorry. I don't know how any of you ladies out there do it. You just can't freaking win. It's either too small, it's not big enough. And now this lady's out here saying his dick is so big, she can't deal with it. And he's even mad about that.

[Heather McDonald]

He's suing.

[Julie Goldman]

Honestly, like, I can't.

[Brandy Howard]

I just can't deal with it. What happened is, is that they weren't just broken up. They'd been broken up for a while, and he and they had gone to therapy. And I found her very, like, authentic. And the story of his, you know, enormous dick, like, very, you know, touching and real. But he's married to someone new now. And so now everyone's looking at that girl like, I guess your pussy must be gay, baby.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. Maybe that's a problem, though. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe when this story came out, the current girl in his life was like, I don't want people to think know that about me. Right? But it just. It's giving. And by the way, I think we should get rid of. It's giving in 2026.

[Brandy Howard]

Let's get rid of it.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. It reminds me of the greatest court case that has ever happened, which was Lorena Bobbitt. Better than that. Joanna Krupa versus.

[Brandy Howard]

Oh, Roma, was it? No. Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

Joanna Krupa versus Brandy Glanville. Because it was on Watch what Happens Live, where it was talked about that Brandy said that someone that dated Joanna told Lisa Vanderpump, who told her that she had an unpleasant smell down.

[Julie Goldman]

She literally stinky.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay? And this is where 2026, people. I've lived it. I've lived a life. And I will give this advice now to everybody. If you ignore it, if you don't comment, if you don't address it, you.

[Brandy Howard]

Can ignore the smell or ignore the comment.

[Julie Goldman]

You mean, like, get to eat?

[Heather McDonald]

There's a new show the next day. There's literally a new show the next day. Like, even with.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, right.

[Heather McDonald]

Even with like certain housewives and stuff that have like a bad season. It's like Mary Crosby ran a cult. There's been a three part documentary around her. The audience doesn't care. They like Mary Crosby on Real House of Salt Lake City. They don't care. People will forget. But if you then address it, do a lawsuit, then it's news. Now I'm talking about it. Now someone else is talking about na na na. If you would have just let it go, who would have remembered a twitch live stream? But what happens is the person gets one too many things. They get sucked into a Reddit, sucked into a group and they think the entire world, they think, they go to Trader Joe's and people are talking about their coke sized dick.

[Julie Goldman]

Yep.

[Heather McDonald]

Nobody's talking about it. Like we've forgotten.

[Brandy Howard]

You know what I call it? I call it what's for dinner. You go like this, something bad happened and everyone comments on it. And then they look up from their phone and they go, wait, what's for dinner? Where are we going to dinner? What are we having for dinner? You're coke sized dick. You're odorous nethers. It's off. It's what's for dinner. If you just wait for them to worry about where they're having dinner, it'll just. Now his, I do believe his new wife was pissed. And that's probably, I guess why he's now doing this lawsuit. But. Or maybe he wanted to keep it in the news. But you're 100% right.

[Heather McDonald]

And then she's forget. And then she does find a thirsty lawyer and then the lawyer is like, absolutely, you know what this is? And that now you're in this big awful thing that will be dismissed. I believe in my prediction, it will be dismissed. But now it's out there. And now every time you go anywhere on a red carpet, whatever, we're going to be zooming in on your.

[Brandy Howard]

I can't imagine what judge a man, a woman. It's going to be like, this is defamation. It's like if a man said, you know what, her tits were too perfect, they were perky, they stood the test of time. Nipples perfect, no bra. And then it's like defamation.

[Heather McDonald]

The judge is like, how dare you. I have heard from men on different media sources, not in person, that have the curse of a giant dong.

[Brandy Howard]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And sometimes things are too big. And it they have girls have broken up with them where they're just like, I can't take it. And so maybe they just don't want that out There. But obviously it was fine for her because she did stay with them for a while and got married. And she's just probably. She probably thought she was doing a compliment. She probably was like, I didn't want to say he was boring and annoying, so I made a quick joke and said, whoa, his dick was too big. And now she's being. She's like, I thought I was giving you a compliment.

[Julie Goldman]

I can't. Even if your dick is too big.

[Heather McDonald]

And by the way, even if your.

[Brandy Howard]

Dick'S too big big, it's 100%.

[Julie Goldman]

Live with it. Live in the truth. Stand in the truth. Take your dick, put tripod your legs out and live in the life. She's allowed to say that. That's not defamation. That is her experience. It's her truth.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

Just like it was my truth. It was her truth.

[Brandy Howard]

And he's your truth that your dick was too big.

[Julie Goldman]

My dick was too big. So I'm just saying, like, you can't. I can't. With his. This. I. It. It makes me go crazy. It's. It's. It's a. It's a male, you know, entitled, gross thing to do.

[Brandy Howard]

And then he went right back down. Like, I was like, oh, he's like. Like hot from afar because he's got his huge dick. And then he sued. And I'm like, now you've got a tiny dick.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Now you're giving. You're giving small dick energy, which is.

[Julie Goldman]

Bizarre because your dick is two Coke cans, which you think that's like. That's a lot. That's a lot. I can't even drink one can of Coke. Well, I can.

[Brandy Howard]

No, I think you can.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, but not two in a row.

[Heather McDonald]

Not two in a row.

[Julie Goldman]

Definitely one you could do. But that's the problem. You can't have two Cokes in a.

[Brandy Howard]

Row for a Red Bull.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm enjoying my ollipops.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Thank you. Sponsored.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Here we go. Garcelle was there. Of you know now. Lifetime movies, everything. She's got new Lifetime movies coming up all the time. And she's just total delight. Looked really cute and really sweet and was very nice to all of us. And we had so much fun listening to Chaka Khan with her. Did a live performance.

[Julie Goldman]

Amazing.

[Brandy Howard]

That's such a cute picture. You look gorgeous. That night, Heather Body snatched Garcelle's face card was so. She was so pretty and so nice and gracious to everyone.

[Heather McDonald]

Like.

[Brandy Howard]

Like. I'm just, like, going through the Rolodex. Even though I don't think I ever talk shit, but I'm like, what if I said on Juicy Scoop. Oh, my God. God. But I don't think we've ever talked shit because we like Garcelle.

[Julie Goldman]

Love Garcelle. And she was so nice and, like, so, like.

[Heather McDonald]

And like, her breakup with Sutton, it's just like, that's what it is. Like, Sutton commented on the other day, she's just like, sure, I regret how things ended, but they have ended. Like, they ended. They're like, whatever. Who knows if they would have. If they run into each other in. In a party, maybe they'll be nice. But no, I think that friendship is run.

[Julie Goldman]

I do Mercer on the show, definitely. And we're going to get into that in a show.

[Heather McDonald]

Then I ran into this girl, is Ari Kitziah, I think is how you pronounce her last name. She is dating Young Gravy, who is a huge rapper, and they were there, and she has, like, a very. She has an only fans. And she's a sexy girl.

[Brandy Howard]

I mean, she looks cute.

[Heather McDonald]

She does the funniest thing, the funniest reel, because she's so pretty. And she does these videos, which it's like the girl that doesn't know she's rich. And you go over to her house and she's like, oh, my gosh, sorry. So dirty. And, oh, my God. I like, was it so annoying? Which. Did you know which lot to park in or which car? Like, whatever. She says, it's very funny. And then she does the whole thing of, like, the girl that, you know only has guys as friends. And she's like, oh, my God, it was so weird. I, like, forgot to wear a bra today. And all of a sudden, like, why am I, like, hunched over? It's like, cause my boobs are so heavy. And I'm like, it's so funny the way she does it. So anyway, it was fun to meet her and. Oh, I wanted to let you know that there. This is a news story. Gen Z has a new name for Karen. It's called Jessica.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

They think that the new millennial. Oh, so Karen is a Gen Z.

[Julie Goldman]

But a millennial is a Jessica.

[Heather McDonald]

Is a Jessica. Okay.

[Julie Goldman]

Jessica.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Because Jessica's the most popular name for the millennial age. All right, so that's. Now I'm thinking about.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay, yeah. Like, all right, you know what?

[Heather McDonald]

Save it.

[Julie Goldman]

Jessica. Yeah, you know what? No, one thing I like about. All right.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay. Karen was the, like, alliteration of yes.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

So I wish there was a. Yeah, just no Jessica or something with A J. But right. I do. I do like it.

[Julie Goldman]

Jessica.

[Heather McDonald]

No, that's not it. Not. Jesus. But I was just like, jesus.

[Julie Goldman]

Jesus. Jessica. No. Jam it. Jessica. John. No.

[Brandy Howard]

Jesus.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't think it's gonna stick.

[Julie Goldman]

I don't think so either.

[Heather McDonald]

What does it Fetch.

[Julie Goldman]

It's just.

[Heather McDonald]

That's just not gonna happen.

[Julie Goldman]

Jessica, stop making fetch happen. It's cat. Karen is better because of the. Okay.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay. Karen. Yeah.

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[Brandy Howard]

I almost like Jan better because it's sure Jan. Even though.

[Heather McDonald]

But Dan is not.

[Brandy Howard]

Maybe it's sure Jessica. Yeah, sure Jessica.

[Julie Goldman]

That's good.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah, Jess.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay. We'll go back to Nikki Glazer.

[Heather McDonald]

I just had to.

[Brandy Howard]

It's on my mind.

[Heather McDonald]

Did you watch any of the Golden Globes or. We've seen clips.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah, I mean too Nikki Glazer. She just honestly, like full time. I don't want to see her anywhere else. I want to see your Golden Globes every year. Let her just work on it all year.

[Heather McDonald]

I think that she will. Like, I could see her doing it for like 10 years straight.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. I think she's the. She's the American Ricky Gervais. Yeah, she's really good at it. She's really, really, really good.

[Heather McDonald]

Saying something like, people are, you know, someone walked up to her before the show, a couple days before the show. Should the celebrities be scared? And she's like, no, I hope not. We work really hard to make it that it's funny, but it's not to that place where you'd be like, devastated what was said about you, you know? And so I do think that's she has mastered that with her cadence and with her team of writers and stuff. And so people do feel like it's a safe space, but it's still edgy enough.

[Brandy Howard]

Can I ask you an industry question?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Brandy Howard]

So you saw the clip of her with like Leo.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Brandy Howard]

Which was great.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

So if you guys haven't seen it, Google it.

[Heather McDonald]

Or basically she says something about. About him having a young girlfriend and then she goes, I'm sorry I had to make that joke. But literally there's nothing else you know about your personal life except that you date much younger women. That's all anyone knows about you. And I really thought that was like a really clever, funny joke. Yes.

[Brandy Howard]

Well, first she makes the joke. That was all. You accomplished all that before your girlfriend turned 30, right.

[Heather McDonald]

Initial.

[Brandy Howard]

But then her apology which was sort of cool. It wasn't an apology, but it was like, you know. Yeah. Like don't be mad. Like, that's all. I googled you. There's nothing else.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. I had to do a low hanging fruit. Fruit joke. But then the joke is because there's nothing else about you, which is. So we don't know if you're into checkers. We don't know if you like, you know, crafting. Yeah. If you are a bird watcher. We don't know. Except that you date really young attractive women and they keep staying the same age while you age.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

His reaction I thought was funny.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Cute and charming and perfect. I mean, he's the ultimate movie star. So then when Wanda Sykes comes out. So my question for you. So Wanda Sykes comes out, she makes a joke at like Bill Maher's expense. Which of course we all love to see. Bill Maher was also at the Golden Globes event. He did not laugh. He was very uncharitable. I felt it may. It still made it funny. I didn't have. I thought it was really funny or.

[Heather McDonald]

Joke was just like in Bill Maher you do so Bill Maher, you do so much. But could you do less? It's such a simple joke that if it was said about me, I would laugh at that. Like, that's just like you're out and about. We just see you talking all the time and whatever, you know, you can take it however you want. To the extreme. Or just that, like could you do. Could just, you know.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah, maybe they wish you'd do less. But he didn't laugh, so. But did her team, Nikki Glaser and the Golden Globes team write that for Wanda Sykes or did Wanda Sykes write that, do you think?

[Heather McDonald]

I think sometimes it's both. When I've done obviously not levels of this, when I've been a presenter and stuff, the writers will give you jokes. Okay. The writers of the show will give you jokes when you present. And you can take them, tweak them, not use them at all. Okay.

[Brandy Howard]

Doing great with it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Like it was.

[Heather McDonald]

So then our boy, Timothy Chalamet, he did win. He also won for Critics Choice, so he won for the Marty Supreme. And Kylie Jenner's dress was to die. It was a gold dress. And she had her hair in a slick ponytail, which was like just the perfect hair. And these like great big diamond earrings that were like kind of going up her ear. And then I don't know if she designed this dress or how she found this dress. Or what. But to add these, like, gold almost like necklaces that kind of went around the shoulder. It was just a really gorgeous, unique look that just showed off her best assets.

[Brandy Howard]

She looked so good. Yeah, beautiful. And he looked hot, even though I'm not really into that mustache.

[Heather McDonald]

And he thanked his partner, which now he refers to her as his partner. Doesn't say girlfriend, which we love, because.

[Brandy Howard]

It'S like gay Jason.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, it's like. Yeah, it's like.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah, it's not girlfriend.

[Heather McDonald]

It was like that period of time where people got out of marrying their girlfriends because they were like, until my gay brothers and sisters can get married, we are gonna hold off. Like, this is all. But anyway, this was kind of funny. Someone put on the Internet that. That this was her name card, that the name card was Kylie Jenner Dash Chalamet, and that she was holding it, looking at it, laughing at him. And someone made it a big story. But then they react. They realize, no, this was fake. This was not. That was not her card was just her name. And they were talking about something else.

[Brandy Howard]

Why must we parcel out fake news at all times now? We're like detective time.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, because anybody can just do an account and it just looks like that it goes viral and just like, somebody caught something, but it wasn't real. So this weekend, I ran into Caitlyn Jenner.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

And, you know, we were catching up on everything. And she was talking about some other stuff. Flying planes, her, you know, her race car driving. And then I just was like, have you met Timothy? Have you met Timothy and do you like him for Kylie? And she said, yes. They've been together three years. She likes him very much and respects his work as an actor and how much. How many years he went into becoming Bob Dylan and the amount of, like, learning the different instruments. And he did the same thing with Marty Supreme. And, you know, he said, look, you know, Kylie, you know, is Kylie with her plan or billions and everything. So it's going to be very hard for someone like her. It's very hard for all the girls to find a partner, a man that's at that level. So they're just a great match. And he.

[Brandy Howard]

That's a good take.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And he's great, according to Caitlin, and has Caitlyn's approval. So I thought that was very nice.

[Julie Goldman]

Well, that is nice.

[Brandy Howard]

We love a Timothy Chalamet moment.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. To get.

[Brandy Howard]

Of course, you had a. You had time with. With Caitlyn and you went right to Timothy Charlie. That's right where you need to Go.

[Heather McDonald]

I know.

[Julie Goldman]

And then.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And then I was asking about Kendall.

[Brandy Howard]

Kendall addressed the.

[Heather McDonald]

She did on a podcast, the rumors of. Is she a lesbian? And in that podcast, and I forgive me, I don't remember the name of the podcast, but she. She said, no, I'm not. But it's funny that people always kind of thought that.

[Brandy Howard]

And you want to address the rumors about you or.

[Julie Goldman]

Listen, it's really very hurtful for my man. You know what? It's like we've been together a long time, and I just. I don't understand why people keep saying now, much like Kendall.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Julie Goldman]

I'm not opposed to it. Yeah, I'm open to it.

[Brandy Howard]

Is that what she said?

[Julie Goldman]

Didn't she say she's open to it in the future?

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I think, regardless, you gotta say that in 2026. Yeah. You can't say. I would never, because then it looks like you're. You think that that is not right. So you have to say, sure. Who's just. Who's to say where I'll be in five years if the right person comes along?

[Julie Goldman]

Well, I would say as a homosexual, that I'm perfectly fine with, because I want to know where we stand. Don't be. You know what I mean? I like it when people have a definitive thing. I am this, I am that, or I'm into it, or I'm not. Most women are open in general, but.

[Heather McDonald]

If you're not, that's okay.

[Julie Goldman]

There's nothing wrong with it.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm gonna say sexually, I am absolutely not open to making out and touching women's boobs.

[Brandy Howard]

Well, that's horrifying to learn after all the time we've spent with you. Waiting the many nights, however.

[Heather McDonald]

Absolutely wouldn't mind having a woman as my wife.

[Julie Goldman]

Like, now, this is a. I want.

[Heather McDonald]

To tell you something. I want Jill Zarin as a wife in my next life.

[Brandy Howard]

For your listeners, Heather did tell us that she would enjoy Jill Zarin as.

[Heather McDonald]

A wife to deny my sexual life to make me the most.

[Julie Goldman]

I'm pretty sure you wanted her to be your Jewish mom.

[Heather McDonald]

I wanted to be Jewish mom or my Jewish wife.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, either one.

[Heather McDonald]

A wife. I want a decorator.

[Julie Goldman]

I want someone to take care of you.

[Heather McDonald]

I want someone to take care of me. That's what I want. But, you know, I mean, I've already told Shannon, like, we have a whole retirement plan, like, providing the men go first. We're just going to live together and then just have one caretaker take care of us both. Why do we have to, like, go to Some home. We can just have our own home as long as we have each other. Yeah. And which was which. Which is one of the reasons that we did end up finally finding men is there was a book called the Sister Book, and we. We caught it. We each bought it for each other the same Christmas, which we've given each other the same cards and stuff over the years. Like on. It's like we pick out the exact same card. And the book was like this beautiful black and white photography book. And it was like all these great sisters. And some of them were famous, Some of them, you know, they're like artsy photos. They all had mastectomies. They all got through cancer. And then there was this one photo of these two, like, Gertrude and Gladys or whatever. And they had lived together their entire life and they had never gotten married. And at the time, we were single women living in Brentwood.

[Brandy Howard]

You suddenly looked at each other and.

[Heather McDonald]

We suddenly said, okay, we need to. We need to. And so then when Shannon met Michael, her now husband, he was like, yeah, I want to take you out Saturday night. I'm going to come from Palm Desert or whatever to take you out to dinner. And I'm like, so what are you going to do? She's like, well, I told him, no, we have plans to go see that movie on Saturday night. And I'm like, shannon, we are going to become. But we want to become Gladys and Gertrude, but not until we're like, 80. Yeah, of course, you know, like, that's what. That's the plan.

[Julie Goldman]

Well, I would say that most straight women feel like you do. Oh, yeah, Everybody, like, particularly ones who want. Who are like, I'm into it. Like, no, you're not. You're not into it. What you're into is somebody. You having a friend.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Which is which.

[Julie Goldman]

Which is what normal human beings do. You just want a friend. You're not. You know what I mean? It's like a. Because it's women.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Because women can be close friends, want.

[Brandy Howard]

To be with boys and girls, want to be with girls.

[Julie Goldman]

And that's it. That's why it's such a weird thing to even be a gay person. It's just like, why am I. Why? It's just normal.

[Brandy Howard]

Julie has a whole thing with, like, it's me and you, and you're a.

[Heather McDonald]

Little bit homophobic, Julie. Yes. They call it even that.

[Brandy Howard]

It's internalized homophobia.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. Because it's like, it's just when I, in my experience is just being around so many women, is that Women in general, men too, like being with each other. But then there's the sexual component, which makes it different. But at the end of the day, that's what's so confusing is that ultimately women especially can get very close and have close friendships. So it's just like, of course you want a wife. Every woman wants a wife. Because that's what we are. We're wives. Even in a friendship, we're wives. You know what I mean?

[Heather McDonald]

I totally. I agree.

[Julie Goldman]

It's just bizarre.

[Heather McDonald]

I know. And it's more and more as you get older. Like, everyone's just like. So let's. Is ever, like, in group chats, is Saturday night husbands too, or just girls? Just girls.

[Julie Goldman]

So weird. It's so. It's so weird. It's so weird.

[Brandy Howard]

And then Julie never wants to be in the photos with us.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

No, I don't want one guy in the photo.

[Heather McDonald]

And it's like.

[Brandy Howard]

And they were like, no, come on. And it's me and you and Shannon and, like, three, like, girls from the country club. And then Julie's like, right there.

[Julie Goldman]

And I'm like. And it's just like, my mother looks at the pictures like, who's that? I'm like, it's me. Who's that guy? It's me.

[Brandy Howard]

Why'd they let you in the photo?

[Julie Goldman]

Why are they. Why'd they let you in the picture? Because I'm one of the girls, too.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, I do also think not only does Kendall have the challenge of also being extremely successful to find someone at that match, but she's a tall. She's a tall.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, a tall.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. And even Caitlyn has said that she tried it. Tried to set her up with, you know, super successful young person. And I was like, can I? And it didn't work out. And I go, but Caitlyn, how tall was this guy? And she's like, well, yeah, probably not tall enough.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

If Kate.

[Julie Goldman]

If Kendall wanted to, like, six feet tall.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And then you want to wear heels and all that. And so that's why she goes for basketball players sometimes. But. Okay, getting on. Jennifer Lawrence had the look. Is still in with the sheer. But this was like, the flowers put in all the. The booby parts and the crotch part. And what do you think of this outfit?

[Brandy Howard]

Okay. I thought, first of all, I thought she looked beautiful.

[Heather McDonald]

Her.

[Brandy Howard]

I love the way the shape of the dress and the flowers made her legs look. I thought her legs look phenomenal. There's something about the flowers hanging down the crotch area that made me think of like a huge bush. And it was also. Even though we're getting rid of giving, it was also making me feel a feeling of. I'm like in Adam and Eve and I'm. I'm wearing like leaves to cover. Or I'm in naked and afraid.

[Heather McDonald]

This is one of those where for certain angles, it looked better than others. And then the wallpaper made. She had like this, like, cloth around her that's like a shawl, but it almost looks like, like wallpaper I used to have, like in a bathroom in the 80s. I don't know. I. In the end, I don't know if I love it. I don't know if I can totally improve it.

[Julie Goldman]

That literally is exactly what. When I was 12 and I came home and my mother redid my bedroom, that's what it looked like. The balloons. The balloon, like on the top of a window where it's like ballooning. Yeah. You know, And I was horrified. But that's what. That reminds me. So funny you said that.

[Brandy Howard]

Her body looks.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, everyone's.

[Julie Goldman]

But she's the best.

[Heather McDonald]

Kate Hudson, finally. Kate Hudson, his I will never, ever get over. When Kate Hudson was nominated for best actress for that Almost Famous. Almost Famous. And she did her hair curly and she had these weird shoulder pads. It was one of the worst outfits hate. So now she's got this Sing song blue show, a movie that everyone says is great.

[Julie Goldman]

I saw it.

[Heather McDonald]

Was it great?

[Julie Goldman]

Beautiful.

[Heather McDonald]

And this silver dress, it's perfect for her shoulders, her boob size. It's the best look she's ever had. It was just stunning. And the way it, like, photographed the hair was just a low split, you know, parted down the middle, low.

[Brandy Howard]

Bun.

[Heather McDonald]

Bun. I think she could have done more with the hair, but still, I give her a ten for. For her.

[Brandy Howard]

You used to do Kate Hudson, Heather, didn't you? I did. I thought you do her like fabletics and it was fucking.

[Heather McDonald]

I think I did a long time ago. But yeah, but she.

[Brandy Howard]

Her body is great. That movie is good.

[Julie Goldman]

She's so good in the movie. She's so good in the movie.

[Brandy Howard]

Did she win? Do we know?

[Heather McDonald]

I always think when you're someone that's going to all these events.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So now you know you've got critics choice. You've got this, and you've got two more others and obviously you want the best one saved for the Oscars. And it's like, how do you, like, decide? Like, these are my four favorites. I want to get attention in the dress early on so that people are thinking about me. But the best one has to be saved for the Oscars.

[Brandy Howard]

But you also want your. The one that you think you might win. Like if you think you might not win the Oscar, but you might win the Golden Globe, then maybe you want.

[Heather McDonald]

You better just love them all.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. JLO wore a sheer thing with. It was like sheer with like brown swirlies and then like a fishtail bottom. Now the only thing I noticed was the bronzer was a little off. You look how much bronze is at the top of the forehead. And then I just thought this needed to be like the bronzer needed to stop the here at the forehead. But other than that, I loved it.

[Brandy Howard]

It's a little bit too much under her cheeks or something.

[Heather McDonald]

I loved it. I thought it was a unique look.

[Brandy Howard]

I love. I think she looks.

[Heather McDonald]

And she presented sick.

[Brandy Howard]

Like, wow. She always delivers. And then.

[Heather McDonald]

What are their names again?

[Julie Goldman]

John Krasinski.

[Brandy Howard]

Can I please close up on his face? Cuz I don't understand. Is he in some glass? Oh, there we go.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. He wore turtleneck with a velvet blazer suit. And then she wore just like a beautiful dress and almost had like a little capelet look. Kind of 60s. I just thought they went really well together as a couple. I just like that like 60s.

[Brandy Howard]

Julie would say that and we're not going to get political. We're going to leave it here. But Julie would say that that looks like something Melania Trump would wear because she loves a capelet.

[Julie Goldman]

What? Brandy. I don't know what you mean. Fabulous. They do look good. I generally don't like a turtleneck in general, but I feel like since you just pointed out that it was sort of like a whole thing.

[Heather McDonald]

I think it was a whole thing put together. And then our girl from White Lotus with. I forgot her name. She's split between her teeth. What is her name? Nobody.

[Brandy Howard]

Is her name like Annie something? I forget.

[Heather McDonald]

So she was. She was there and she wore just a classic black dress off the shoulder. Big, puffy, but bottom tight in the waist. But the hair was horrible. Like, this is what it looks like if when you go to the bridal store and you're trying it on, like, how did you not like curl it, put it back, do something with.

[Brandy Howard]

Was the dress either.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm not into the dress, but the hair is worse than the dress. The hair. This was really, really bad. And I'm gonna say it. And I'm sorry, I don't know your name, but it wasn't good.

[Brandy Howard]

We love her though.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I Love her acting. Hated that look. Britney Snow, Lesbian hunting wives. I thought this was just so like unique and kind of classic. It's not what I would wear, but because you have such a tiny body, like we could have showed off a waist and a whole thing. But it, it's kind of chic. And the way she did her hair.

[Brandy Howard]

Low, I think she's going for Gwen Paltrow type of vibe.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, like I didn't like. Very simple and stunning.

[Brandy Howard]

Like clean and growing with white.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Brandy Howard]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Brandy Howard]

Not in 2026.

[Heather McDonald]

You're not gonna give it to one man, Dax Shepard, who is all over the Internet as people analyzing him and Kristen wig relationship. They just had Cher on and it was a very awkward, awkward situation. And a lot of people are analyzing him as a husband and a narcissist and all this other stuff. So I, I knew he wasn't going to win. Okay, then you're not going to go with the grifters, Jay Shetty and Mel Robbins.

[Brandy Howard]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

You're not going to go with Call Her Daddy, even though she's been doing it for, I don't know, eight or 10 years, just because she's too young. So let's go with someone everybody likes. No one has ever said one negative thing about Amy Poehler. She is taking it seriously. She's doing a good job. She hasn't even had the show for a year.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

And, but, you know, she gave a nice speech, thanked everybody, made a joke that, you know, pbs, you know, should have jokingly saying it's a good thing they didn't win, meaning, like they should have won. And, and I think, and you know, I, that if I was to say who, why, I think she's the safest bet to win. They wanted to invite the people to get the attention on the Golden Globes and that those people would come. Right. But also, you know, it's amazing when you, when, then when she stands up there and she thanks the 29 people that work on the show and I'm just like, oh, exactly. What would my speech be? Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Like, yeah, thanks to Drake and Peter.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And I definitely would do a Snoop Dogg. And most importantly, I'd like to thank myself. Yeah, definitely want to thank myself. Yes.

[Brandy Howard]

Don't forget our Lord and Savior.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. You know, and Mary, tirelessly Virgin Mary. No, I would. She's really likable. It's a good show. I'm glad she won. But I'm, I'm just telling you, I totally predicted that it would be on.

[Brandy Howard]

The Globe, like nominating committee, I would have. Or the voting committee I would have voted for. Smart list, probably. I mean, I think that they did a great job this year. I mean, I saw one of the funniest clips you saw that I'm sure with Conan o'. Brien.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

And I mean, I Think they're. They've been doing it longer than her. I think she's great. I have nothing against her. I mean, it's just hard when you're in this game to be like happy for the person.

[Heather McDonald]

That's an A list star. That started it six months ago.

[Brandy Howard]

And even Bill Maher, it's like, Bill Maher is a TV show. What are you even doing there?

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, even call her daddy, though she's young. She's done it for 10 years, you know, and she does certainly have a bigger show than.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And she's, you know, into like straight up interviews and stuff. So she's not doing all like the sex stuff, whatever. But who, you know, who knows with these voting things? Is it really real? Remember when they used to do that where they'd be like. And now for the accounting firm, they bring out the suitcases and like, who cares? No, there's no. But again, nobody cares. It's not gonna make a difference. Just make the show. So it's entertaining, but whatever.

[Brandy Howard]

The first big real like podcast award category. Yeah. Legitimately.

[Heather McDonald]

This is the first time it's ever been in any kind of level like this.

[Brandy Howard]

So that's why this whole thing is important.

[Heather McDonald]

It is good.

[Brandy Howard]

Even though it's good. Clearly political and whatever. It's. It's representation matters. And now it's like, here we go.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay, get Step and Drake.

[Heather McDonald]

So also there, Sean Pen. What did you say? Get what?

[Brandy Howard]

Get to Step and Drake. Step up the games.

[Heather McDonald]

Also, Sha Pen got caught smoking at his table.

[Julie Goldman]

I am alive.

[Heather McDonald]

You are not going to tell him that he has to go outside with the valets to get a cigarette. He's Sha Pen. And his forward and his forehead screams, I'm a smoker.

[Julie Goldman]

The man has not stopped smoking since 1980 for a second. Like literally. He hasn't literally stopped doing this. Maybe, maybe, I mean maybe since 85. But any. Every interview, every single time. He isn't doing acting, he's smoking. And I have to say, as a.

[Brandy Howard]

Smoker myself, until January 20th.

[Julie Goldman]

That's right. The level of balls. And you have to have a certain type of like. I don't give a fuckness to. To be able to smoke in a room. I can't even go outside in California. 50ft from an of. From an entryway to a door outside.

[Brandy Howard]

We've been looking at. She's been smoking at the Abbey and someone inside out. But they're outside.

[Heather McDonald]

It's an outside place, but they're outside.

[Brandy Howard]

They're inside the door.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Outside the door and they're like, excuse.

[Julie Goldman]

Me, I'm eating and I'm like, I'm smoking because I'm outside. Like I can't even. But I'm not even. But then I have to like, sorry. Like there's nowhere we can be. It's. Everyone's offended by it. And so for this man, the way, the reason I'm so into it is not only that he's just being himself and smoking, but the level of like, like, like cojones and just all of it, just the smoke in there, you just, it's, it's beyond, it's unbelievable.

[Brandy Howard]

If you have not watched Princess Bride on today's TVs on the 4K, like TV, I'll let you know. Robin Wright Penn was a full time.

[Heather McDonald]

Smoker as well, who is his ex wife.

[Brandy Howard]

Because you can see it in the teeth. And I'm like, oh wow. I've never watching 80s movies on like today's TVs is like a whole thing. It's like wow, okay, wow. I didn't never realize that was what was going on with your teeth or anything. So. Yeah, no, they like to smoke. I mean he went to like El Chapo's like house and I was always.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm always very shocked when I find out anyone's a smoker.

[Julie Goldman]

It's beyond.

[Heather McDonald]

I just found out you were. You barely smoke around me.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay.

[Julie Goldman]

No, well, I don't.

[Heather McDonald]

You're very rare.

[Julie Goldman]

It's rare. It's rare. But it's, it's, but it's in my life. I have to.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, Switching gears, breaking a Real Housewives of OC News. Katie Janela, who is the beautiful Korean, I believe she's Korean girl adopted into her family told that story, has her second husband and her three or four kids. She is leaving the show and she said after two seasons as a cast member of Real Housewives OC, the network has decided to move forward with season 20 without me. While disappointing, it's not entirely surprising after seeing how season 19 played out. I'm incredibly grateful for the love support I received appreciated representation matters and I'm proud to have shown up authentically. My story does not end here. Okay, so listen, I do think, I think that was the right move. I don't think it's surprising. I mean look, it's the 20 year anniversary and I think they're going to bring back like OG's. I think they're going to do a lot of flashbacks. I think they're going to try to make it really Fun. Fun and kind of like the, you know, the memorable thing. Like the whole season's just going to be, like, memories and, like amigas. Yes. And so I just don't think there's a place for. Especially with all the issues of, like, accusing her of being, like, a pathological liar and stuff. I just don't know how you'd work that in. And she wasn't, like, particularly, like, funny or memorable or whatever in what they showed. Not saying that she couldn't be more entertaining doing something else, but in what we saw. Yeah, she's right.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Of course you're not going to be picked.

[Brandy Howard]

It's Vicky. They're going to be whooping it up. They're going to be squirting, like, whipped cream into each other's vaginas, and they're going to be doing weird. And it's. I think that. I do think you're right. They're going to want it to be fun and funny. She was for all she brought to the show, just in terms of drama, I guess she just wasn't. She wasn't high energy. She wasn't entertaining. Those. Those girls on oc, like, you know, they. They can be, like, wildly entertaining.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

You know, even. Even Heather, who, you know, it doesn't necessarily act like that. I mean, Heather was like a full on, like, pothead all through Amsterdam. Like, she even surprised, you know?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Like, now I'm like, okay, now that's what they're doing.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. So, well, good luck to her. I predict that she and her husband will do some type of YouTube show together. That's my prediction. Okay. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City had a. They're in Greece, and it was their. Their final episode. So this week will be the reunion. And they did this thing that I was like, are you kidding me? So they go and they're like, oh, this woman's gonna write us a Greek play. And she's gonna interview all of us about each other. So they all talk about themselves and each other, and then each girl wears a matching scarf. So if I'm wearing orange scarf, I see the girl wearing orange on stage, and that's who's me. And it was like, so long and lame. And I'm like, who. What person on production wrote this out? And it was another one of those moments that Brandy always brings up, like, hey, guys, let's play a game at lunch. What's the meanest thing that you've ever thought about someone at this table? I'll go first. Brandy. I don't like that you have three pierced earrings in one ear. I don't. I don't like it. And I've said it to all the girls, and we've talked about it incessantly.

[Brandy Howard]

And then you pull out your phone and show the group chat that I'm not on, where everyone's like, it's just trashy. Are those diamonds even real? I. I will say Heather told us, and they are not for nothing. They're very tiny, though, that she fell asleep, which was classic Heather, because this was.

[Heather McDonald]

It wasn't a play. It wasn't a play. It was all them standing up there, and it was like. And then the lady turned to her sister and said, you only care about material goods. And without recognizing your own goods, you lash out at others and are feeling insecure to the bottom of your bone. And your shoes aren't nice. What? Like, I don't even know what it was. So that was a good impression.

[Brandy Howard]

That was a good impression.

[Julie Goldman]

They were doing a Greek tragedy, which.

[Brandy Howard]

You know, only Julie knows what that even is.

[Julie Goldman]

And so it's just like, you know, so of course, the one person was talking. Then it's them and the thing, and they're. Whatever. It's. It was a take on a Greek tragedy, and I do believe that that woman was like. Probably makes half a living doing that in Greece with, like, tourists who come in. It's like, we're gonna come in and get a Greek tragedy written about us, and then it's the whole thing, and they do it. But I was actually. I loved it. I loved it. I was. I watched.

[Heather McDonald]

What did you love about it?

[Julie Goldman]

That they. First of all, they're all sitting there with their scarves. And it was the first time, too. Or it was a. It was also a take on, like, when they get in costumes and then get in fights.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Which is another thing.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

That we love Another trope. But because they. But they were wearing the scarf, and then they were watching themselves and hearing the words that they had told the. I loved all of it. And that lady or whoever wrote this tragedy nailed almost all of them.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't think she wrote it. I think somebody on staff wrote it. Well, whatever.

[Julie Goldman]

I think that they got. I think they were too easy on Mary Crosby, but I think that they pretty much got most of them, Most importantly, Heather Gay.

[Brandy Howard]

Well, I thought they nailed Bronwyn.

[Julie Goldman]

Heather Gay.

[Heather McDonald]

I think also in. Whoever wrote it was like. And then without our sisters, we are nothing. Which told this everybody, like, hey, idiots. Yes, you better play in the slant in the sand with these. Or you will be left on an island by yourself and you won't be asked back. So unless you guys all make up.

[Julie Goldman]

Yep.

[Brandy Howard]

And.

[Heather McDonald]

And don't say, I can't do this anymore. I won't work with this person. You have one chance to make up so that we have another season. Because we are the producers and we'd all like to get another season out of you.

[Brandy Howard]

Here's what I love. I love that. I love that, first of all, the look on their faces realizing, yes. Oh, we all went in and did the interview with the playwright.

[Heather McDonald]

So good.

[Brandy Howard]

And they start to realize, oh, everyone said, I'm fake. I have three earring holes. You know, I'm a pathological liar.

[Julie Goldman]

I'm a narcissist.

[Brandy Howard]

I mean, all of that. So then they're all like, it's all hitting.

[Julie Goldman]

I run the show.

[Brandy Howard]

That was great. And then me just of all the things. And we all know it's, don't do this at my charity event. Who do you hate? When was the last time you had sex? That dumb game.

[Heather McDonald]

Do you do it in the bus?

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then let's talk anal. Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Always the anal card.

[Julie Goldman]

Spin our stuff.

[Brandy Howard]

Fallout. And so to do this, I imagine like an associate producer who's busy Frankenbiting.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Quotes. Who went in and pitched, like, I think while we're in, you know, Greece, we should do a Greek tragedy. I was so happy for whoever that person was. That was, like, million percent. At least it was something we'd never seen. And they were all dragged to filth. Except for the ones that weren't. But, like, to see Bronwyn. And then she.

[Heather McDonald]

Then Bron breaks down, thank God, and brought one. Had, like, a nice moment. She's like, yeah, you know what? I'm really sorry. I really didn't realize where that insecurity was coming from. And I do want to work more in these friendships. I mean, she's really come to be quite likable this season, for sure.

[Brandy Howard]

Her taking it in, even if it was just a performance and owning it. I was like, slow clap. I mean, she was on my nerves last season with the lying about the jewelry and the lying all the time and constantly, totally not trustworthy. And someone tells her something, and in the next scene, she weaponizes it. And I'm just like, God, man. She's just like, sucks. And then. So for her to take that and then admit it, I was like, oh, wow, that's great. Like, that's why that finale was so good.

[Julie Goldman]

But then of course. Who doesn't take it in is Heather, who they said is narcissist. I mean, she has lost her goddamn mind. The woman has lost her mind.

[Brandy Howard]

That spin off. What?

[Heather McDonald]

Well, you know, she is pretty big deal now. Yeah, pretty big deal now. Come on.

[Julie Goldman]

Huge deal. Too big.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, a little too big.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, it's too big.

[Brandy Howard]

So.

[Heather McDonald]

And she also, you know. So also there was, you know, talk of that one of them did have their stomach pumped at one point during filming.

[Julie Goldman]

Wow.

[Heather McDonald]

And it came up again in other discussions in the.

[Julie Goldman]

The Internet world.

[Heather McDonald]

And yeah. I mean, I think people think it's the night that Heather Gay had five espresso martinis, which I think would make anybody sick, quite honestly.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So.

[Brandy Howard]

But as the town drunk, I have never had my stomach pumped. Of course I have TT'd in my pants though. And she did do that in the van, right?

[Heather McDonald]

Peepeed or she.

[Brandy Howard]

No, I thought I didn't. She didn't. She didn't. Her pants.

[Heather McDonald]

We don't know.

[Brandy Howard]

Oh, I thought she just peed her pants and then vomited.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh.

[Brandy Howard]

But that's probably what told them she's gotta go, has a medical issue.

[Julie Goldman]

But that does seem like also, so. I mean, who hasn't been too drunk when they haven't just thrown up in the. I mean, you know what I mean? That's just a pretty general.

[Heather McDonald]

Then you've got, you know, a couple moments in your life. Yeah. And you either, of course, either your pants or you wake up with a black eye. Right. And write two books about it without telling what really happened. Ever. To this day. To this day. Oh, that. Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

The finale was great. I am dying for the reunion.

[Heather McDonald]

The clips are so good.

[Brandy Howard]

And do you think the Andy Cohen walk off and we'll discuss this with you and you'll be discussing on the show. But since. Do you think that was real or.

[Heather McDonald]

I think it's just a moment where he can't get a word in and he just literally has a splitting headache and he's just done this for 20 years and he just walks off.

[Brandy Howard]

That's what I think he needs. Like.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I just think he's just like, oh yeah, let this be over. You know, Real Houses of Beverly Hills had a very boring episode, but it could be building into something. This girl Amanda, you know, people are criticizing her online, saying, oh, she's new money, but she makes her money by manifesting it and then teaching others how to manifest money. And you, you can buy a coaching sessions for as much as $11,000 that also include Meeting her in person and then you learn those tools and then you can start your own coaching business and your own writing books and podcasts and all that stuff. This has always been around. In my day it was called a motivational speaker. When I was doing real estate, this guy came to the real estate office and was like, for sixteen hundred dollars, which would be like, you know, five thousand now, every Tuesday, whatever, come to this meeting. We're going to motivate you how to get listings and all this stuff. And at the end, also at the end, we're all going to go skydiving. Well, skydiving was something I always wanted to do. So I was like, can I do this? So my parents paid for me to do this motivational speaker thing. And I remember like, he was always, this guy was just like, I get up every day at 4:30 in the morning. It's always about getting up at 4:30 in the morning. Why, why can't someone just work later at night? Why do they have to be at 4:30? I get up at 4:30 in the morning.

[Brandy Howard]

I do.

[Heather McDonald]

And so one time I called him at like 9 to like ask him a question and he's like, oh, hello. And I'm like, you're sleeping? Like, what are you talking about? So then eventually I got to signing up for the, for this, for the skydiving, and it wasn't even included in the 1600. So then I paid for it and I went skydiving.

[Julie Goldman]

And I guess you didn't manifest it because the thing is that what you need to do is manifest whatever it is that you want to do. So if you wanted to make money, I would say like part of it is like manifesting it. You know what I mean? That's really the most important thing that when I teach my students is manifesting.

[Heather McDonald]

What really clicked for me, yes. Was realizing that when you can identify the goal and the image that you see your future self. But also keeping in mind, who's that little girl? I don't want to leave her behind. I want that little girl to live the life that I know that she can live. And that life is one of abundance and goal setting. And by waking up every day and just getting out of bed and brushing your teeth and doing affirmations saying I deserve the wealth, then it's just one more step to doing it. And by learning the tools and coming on our three day weekend, someone asked.

[Julie Goldman]

Me recently, what are the tools for? What are the tools for making money? And it's easy. The tools are such as like you said. Like I. You said. What are the tools? Wake up in the morning, think about what you're thinking, and then take those thoughts and think them. And that is the most important thing. And. And I know that when my students pay $16,000.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

For this advice, I also give them very specifics. Very specific advice.

[Heather McDonald]

In the past, why hasn't it worked in the past? Right. Why has it not worked? Because the past. Because the past. Yes. Is in the past.

[Julie Goldman]

Exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my past is in the past. You know what today is?

[Julie Goldman]

Tell them.

[Heather McDonald]

Tell them today is only today.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

You could only accomplish so much today that you cannot accomplish tomorrow. And that person that's pulling you by the hair, don't.

[Julie Goldman]

Don't let them. That's your past. You.

[Heather McDonald]

That's the past. You.

[Julie Goldman]

That's right.

[Heather McDonald]

So Here are the 10 Commandments of Heather's hilarious abundance of money. One, wake up and say, I'm worth it. Two, feed your soul with breakfast, knowing that that is going to give you the energy to create the money.

[Julie Goldman]

Write it down. Three, Pay attention. Write it down. Go ahead. Keep going.

[Heather McDonald]

Three, Stretch. Stretch it out. Also stretch out your money. You're not going to make more money unless you stretch.

[Julie Goldman]

So important.

[Heather McDonald]

Your inner soul. Your inner thighs.

[Julie Goldman]

Exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

And your inner wall.

[Julie Goldman]

Open your legs.

[Heather McDonald]

Likes 4.

[Julie Goldman]

4.

[Heather McDonald]

Walk around. Walk around and say, I deserve to be rich.

[Julie Goldman]

Period.

[Heather McDonald]

I deserve to be rich. That's not taking from anybody else. That's saying what I deserve.

[Julie Goldman]

That's right.

[Heather McDonald]

That's right. Six.

[Julie Goldman]

Five.

[Heather McDonald]

Sex sells. I'm not saying necessarily, but you should check out onlyfans. It could be for you. And it's the quickest way to make money.

[Julie Goldman]

Not you, though. You're not you over there. Absolutely not. But you three for sure. Those three over there. Definitely seven.

[Heather McDonald]

Absolutely seven.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

If you can't do it alone, find a partner who's rich.

[Julie Goldman]

Exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

That could be the old man down the street that know that his heirs aren't visiting him.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Why don't you bring him an apple pie?

[Julie Goldman]

Well, he doesn't need to be in a wheelchair alone.

[Heather McDonald]

No, he does.

[Julie Goldman]

No, he does not. He does. Not at all. You got two more?

[Brandy Howard]

Three, but no one's counting. Eight.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Do what seems natural.

[Julie Goldman]

You know what?

[Heather McDonald]

Do what seems natural. If you like to.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Buy throw pillows. Be an interior decorator.

[Julie Goldman]

Exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

That is what you should do. That's get some clients. Overcharge them.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And buy some throw pillows.

[Brandy Howard]

So easy.

[Julie Goldman]

Why not so easy? What are we doing?

[Heather McDonald]

I think I'm on 10. Good.

[Julie Goldman]

Last one.

[Heather McDonald]

Start a podcast.

[Julie Goldman]

Start a podcast.

[Heather McDonald]

Everyone can start a podcast. Yes. Everybody wants to listen to your thoughts.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And all you have to do is get a mic.

[Julie Goldman]

Yep.

[Heather McDonald]

You don't have a friend. Buy a stuffed animal.

[Julie Goldman]

Yep.

[Heather McDonald]

Buy a stuffed animal or a fake baby doll and get into a mom's group and then expose that mom's group as being toxic. And then become friends with Ashley Tisdale because she doesn't have any friends left left. Thank you.

[Julie Goldman]

Thank you all for coming today.

[Heather McDonald]

Thank you.

[Julie Goldman]

Heather will be available to sign and to speak to you for 75 extra. Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Thank you.

[Julie Goldman]

And if you want to be part of the mlm, you can come to the other room and we'll.

[Heather McDonald]

We don't call it MLM anymore. We call associates that thrive to bring others around them up to the top.

[Julie Goldman]

If you wanted to be a podcast network. Yeah. If you want to be in the entrepreneurial group.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Julie Goldman]

That brings people up. Let's meet. We'll meet later.

[Brandy Howard]

I did appreciate the show, editing her as one. Upping it. I normally, I wouldn't. I'm not really that into her, but the way the show had, I was finding great joy and pleasure in it.

[Julie Goldman]

I paid $10,000 for a crystal one time at a dinner. $10,000.

[Heather McDonald]

You know what is positive about these housewife shows is sometimes it's good to see something like that to go, I wonder if I ever do that, and if I do, I don't want to do it. Because sometimes you need to see it on somebody on TV living their life that's somewhat relatable, and that's like your age or a young mom or whatever. And, yeah, when she just talked about, yeah, when I bought your sister's house, I was like, let me gut this motherfucker. And then I made some really great choices. Thank God. Like, I got rid of that black and white floor. And then I was like, this looks so good because I have such an eye. I think I'm just gonna stay in this dump.

[Brandy Howard]

Once the tennis court was finished. Yeah, it was really all upward from there. I think I do it. I think. But I think I do it in the thing where I think, oh, I'm just relating. Like, if somebody goes, oh, I have a Chihuahua, I'm like, oh, my God, I have a Chihuahua, too. I don't think I'm, like, upping them because obviously my Chihuahua is like a million times cuter than theirs and tinier.

[Julie Goldman]

But that would be the one upping more exciting. That's why you don't the. What she Would do. If you said, I have a Chihuahua, she would go, oh, my God, I have the best Chihuahua. I have the best Chihuahua on the planet. I got it. This is what she would do.

[Heather McDonald]

This is what she would do. So you have a Chihuahua?

[Brandy Howard]

I have. I just love my Chihuahua, so.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my gosh. That's so interesting. I have always had Chihuahuas, and now it's like everyone's having Chihuahuas. But currently, my number one Chihuahua just got a modeling deal.

[Brandy Howard]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

She's actually with Kendall Jenner doing a Super bowl commercial. And it's what makes me feel bad, actually. And I just woke up one day and I manifested my Chihuahua. Manifested it on a commercial doing during Super Bowl. I wrote it down. Three weeks later, I got the call. Is your Chihuahua available to be in a Super bowl commercial now?

[Brandy Howard]

Not only am I feeling bad that my Chihuahua's ugg and can't do modeling, I'm also feeling bad that I'm not doing enough manifesting. I'm not working hard enough to get my Chihuahua the job. It might be on all levels.

[Julie Goldman]

She might be the greatest. What do you call it? You know, the thrower of a hot potato that's ever been alive.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm gonna come up with something that nobody else has ever come up with. Okay. See it, say it. Believe it. Achieve it, Be it. Wow. Wow.

[Julie Goldman]

See it, say it.

[Brandy Howard]

Believe it.

[Julie Goldman]

See it.

[Heather McDonald]

See it in your head. Say it. I want my chihuahua on a Super bowl commercial.

[Julie Goldman]

Say it. Believe it.

[Heather McDonald]

Believe it. It's gonna happen. Achieve it. He got the call.

[Julie Goldman]

Achieve it, be it.

[Heather McDonald]

He is now on a commercial.

[Brandy Howard]

And just embody it.

[Heather McDonald]

And I embody it.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my God. That's the one upping. I already came up with that. And say it. See it, be it. Achieve it.

[Brandy Howard]

Embody it.

[Julie Goldman]

Embody it. Then get it. That, I mean, you know, I mean, it's cute that you thought of that, but, like, it's the get it part that's really.

[Heather McDonald]

I appreciate what I do as a manifesting mama guru. Oh, whoa, whoa. The branding there, Drake. Patent that right now. Manifest.

[Brandy Howard]

Because if not, you know, manifesting Mama is my new.

[Heather McDonald]

It's probably gonna be my third book. Oh, I have you'll never blue ball in this town again. My inappropriate life. A manifesting mama.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my God.

[Brandy Howard]

And.

[Heather McDonald]

And if people say, what is that? I'm gonna say, let them. Let them.

[Brandy Howard]

Another great slogan you came up with.

[Julie Goldman]

And then from another grifter. It's amazing. It's.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, it's amazing.

[Julie Goldman]

It is. Absolutely.

[Heather McDonald]

Sorry. She didn't win in her podcast category.

[Julie Goldman]

Incredible.

[Heather McDonald]

What else happened? Really? Nothing. Oh, you know, one thing I noticed is when they get on the plane to go to Sedona and they talk about, what did you bring? You know, Rachel, she's like. It's just like a lot of kaftans. It's very Sedona. Like a felt hat.

[Brandy Howard]

Can I just have to say that the. The things on the bottom, the subtitles. Yeah. Said cuff tans. Because she went kaftans.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And it wrote a lot of towns. It's like a lot of chunky jewelry, a lot of, you know. And then, you know, of course, Kyle walks in wearing a bunch of aqua, including her Birkin. Like a disquise. Then she's like, amanda's wearing only Louis Vuitton as big as her head. That's her. She's into label Y stuff. Of course, bows just walks in like a queen. I'm like, here's the thing. Can nobody be snarky about bows? I like bows. But there. You can't tell me you like every outfit she's ever worn. Everybody is just like, bose is the greatest. Bose is the smartest. Bose. And like. But then you're in. You're talking about everybody else's outfit, but that. And then Bose walks in as a freaking queen. Why was she. What? Dressed like a queen?

[Brandy Howard]

I know.

[Heather McDonald]

You didn't even describe her outfit.

[Brandy Howard]

I didn't even show her even to show us what she was even wearing.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, just admit you guys are terrified, like, just whatever. Of saying anything, but only complimentary.

[Brandy Howard]

Thank God for Rachel Zo, though, because she. I told. This is what I told Garcelle. I was like, I do feel like Garcelle was funny on it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

And she's gone. And I'm like, we need, like, not a lot of the rest of them are really funny. Eric is pretty funny, but, I mean, Rachel Zo is funny to me.

[Heather McDonald]

Well.

[Julie Goldman]

And yeah, Eric has some.

[Heather McDonald]

Eric is just kind of, like, nice and happy. Remember there was a time where she was, like, falling off chairs and getting drunk because she was so depressed, but now she's getting, you know, nicely boned by this, like, former special ops guy that's, like, age appropriate and she's, like, happy and just. So she's, like, pretty normal.

[Brandy Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So she's normal and good, and that's about it. So now we have something very exciting because many of you guys know I do juicy crimes every Wednesday. And Brandy and Julie are here, and we are going to now record our juicy crime. So you can listen to more Brandy and Julie tomorrow. We have a handful of crimes I want to get into. Some that are crazy that I'm going to describe to you, some that you're going to share and give info on as well. And so if you haven't subscribed to that, you just go subscribe or on YouTube as well. And of course you want to check them out at. Tell everybody where they can find all your stuff.

[Julie Goldman]

Julianbrandi.com and then from there you can go on to our regular podcast, Dumb Gay Politics. Or you can go to our. Really, you should go to the Patreon. Patreon's where it's at the Patreon's where.

[Brandy Howard]

If you don't want politics, do the Patreon. If you want to do politics, go to our free Dumb Gay Politics.

[Julie Goldman]

And anyone who's in the Minneapolis area, we are going to be there for the month, February 22nd through the 23rd doing Nightmare on Strip Street. So if you need a break, maybe nightmare from the nightmare, then come on to the show because it will be a safe space for all.

[Brandy Howard]

And maybe we convince you and Drake to come and like you did.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Come visit us at ground zero in America. I want everyone to know I'm wearing the same outfit for juicy crimes. Enter. You guys.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. Yes. So don't think that this is. I wonder if I should just change my.

[Brandy Howard]

Well, no, we're not.

[Heather McDonald]

I just wonder if it looks. It'll. Maybe we should just. Let me just change my shirt. Just so people know it's not the same show they watched yesterday.

[Brandy Howard]

We're going to be in our same one.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandy Howard]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. Thank you. Bye.

[Julie Goldman]

Bye.

[Brandy Howard]

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