Brandy and Julie on James Kennedy, UFOs, Luigi and Housewives

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald
Episode Title: Brandy and Julie on James Kennedy, UFOs, Luigi and Housewives
Release Date: December 17, 2024

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Introduction and Year in Review (02:07 - 03:20)

In this festive episode, Heather McDonald welcomes her longtime friends and co-hosts, Brandi Howard and Julie Goldman, marking their final show together for the year 2024 as a trio. The hosts reminisce about the past year, celebrating the concept of "karma 24," where they’ve witnessed karmic retribution in Hollywood, from stars like Diddy to personal acquaintances.

Heather McDonald:
"Karma has been being served to so many people... just absolutely fabulous." (02:28)

Personal Weekend Stories and Movie Experiences (03:20 - 06:00)

The conversation shifts to their recent weekends filled with parties and outings. Brandi shares a humorous account of attending an uncommon movie theater experience, where she fell asleep during the high-energy musical "Wicked," only to wake up midway and continue watching. Julie admits to enjoying the musical unexpectedly, highlighting the performers’ strong storytelling and comedic elements.

Brandi Howard:
"I slept for an hour... I'm going to get to the next hour of M&Ms." (04:18)

Julie Goldman:
"I was surprised at the plot line and felt it was very touching." (04:35)

James Kennedy's Arrest and Public Reaction (13:00 - 25:05)

A significant portion of the episode delves into the controversial arrest of James Kennedy for domestic violence. Heather recounts attending a DirecTV party where Kennedy was present. She describes his demeanor post-arrest, where despite allegations from his partner Allie, who claims he threw her to the ground, Kennedy remains upbeat and continues pursuing his career with plans to extend his residency and release original songs.

Heather McDonald:
"He said, 'my team is investigating my attorney,'... he has three original songs coming out in January." (16:34)

Brandi and Julie express concern over the situation, debating Kennedy's character and the complexities of his public persona versus his private actions. They reflect on the broader implications of such incidents in the entertainment industry and the challenges victims face in seeking justice.

Brandi Howard:
"I feel really bad for them both. It's their private business." (19:04)

Julie Goldman:
"I feel like... it's a complicated situation and he's a human being." (25:05)

UFOs and Alien Theories (30:00 - 35:00)

Shifting gears, the hosts engage in a lively discussion about the recent surge in UFO sightings and drone activities reported across various states, including New Jersey, the UK, and Ohio. They explore several theories ranging from extraterrestrial visits, government conspiracies like the Blue Stream theory, and potential technological advancements by nations like China and Russia. Heather questions the authenticity of the orb sightings, pondering whether they might be fabricated or part of a larger governmental agenda.

Heather McDonald:
"What are the orbs? They look like big bubbles, thicker and more dense. Could they be fake?" (33:35)

Brandi Howard:
"A lot of those pictures were fake, is that proven?" (33:35)

Julie adds her perspective, suggesting that distrust in the government fuels conspiracy theories about UFOs, citing historical cover-ups like the JFK era to explain current skepticism.

Julie Goldman:
"That's why nobody trusts you and why everything is a conspiracy theory now." (34:32)

Movie Review: Megan Fox's Latest Film (35:00 - 39:00)

Heather and her co-hosts delve into a review of Megan Fox's recent movie, which blends themes of AI and domestic life. They critique the film's plot, which revolves around a woman relying on robotic assistants after receiving a heart transplant. While acknowledging Fox's compelling performance and the film's initial charm, they express disappointment with its predictable storyline and perceived lack of depth.

Heather McDonald:
"The humanoid AI starts to gain consciousness, and things get really scary." (37:35)

Brandi Howard:
"When AI comes to life and gains consciousness, it's a whole K hole." (37:53)

Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Updates (39:00 - 51:00)

The discussion transitions to the latest happenings in the "Real Housewives of Salt Lake City." Heather recounts Jen Shaw's involvement in a fake paparazzi incident where she posed in an AI-generated photo with the Pope, sparking controversy. The hosts speculate on the ongoing tensions between cast members, particularly focusing on Garcelle Beauvais and Dorit Kemsley, who appear to be at odds over personal and professional conflicts.

Heather McDonald:
"She made a fake photo with the Pope, which is so surreal and controversial." (82:38)

Brandi Howard:
"Garcelle is ascending, completely ascending." (82:22)

They also touch upon recent violent incidents involving other cast members, such as Bronwyn’s dog attack, and discuss the emotional and relational fallout within the cast, predicting further drama and possible breakups in future seasons.

Julie Goldman:
"I believe he planned the robbery, which traumatized her and led to the demise of their relationship." (75:14)

Brandi and Julie's Dumb Gay Podcast Updates (51:00 - 89:07)

Brandi Howard and Julie Goldman provide updates on their own podcast, "Dumb Gay Podcast," highlighting their foray into various formats like taste testing, reviews, and a unique segment called "Butch Laurette," where they assist a single butch lesbian in navigating the dating scene through Zoom dates. They share humorous anecdotes about their experiences and the chemistry building between Brandi, Julie, and their podcast participants.

Brandi Howard:
"She's a butcher, and she's looking for love... all-inclusive!" (87:57)

Julie Goldman:
"We're changing people's lives, one date at a time." (88:17)

They also discuss their engagement with listeners through Patreon, offering exclusive content and interactive segments to enhance their audience's experience.

Concluding Remarks and Upcoming Events (89:07 - End)

As the episode wraps up, Heather, Brandi, and Julie share their excitement for upcoming holiday gatherings, poolside parties, and festive celebrations in Palm Springs and the desert. They encourage listeners to join their respective online platforms for more content and engage with their communities during the holiday season.

Heather McDonald:
"We're going to have lots of fun with pre-Christmas and post-Christmas dinners in the desert." (89:57)

Julie Goldman:
"Check out julianbrandy.com to join our Patreon and enjoy exclusive episodes." (89:28)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Heather McDonald:
  "Karma has been being served to so many people... just absolutely fabulous." (02:28)

• Brandi Howard:
  "I slept for an hour... I'm going to get to the next hour of M&Ms." (04:18)

• Julie Goldman:
  "I was surprised at the plot line and felt it was very touching." (04:35)

• Heather McDonald:
  "He said, 'my team is investigating my attorney,'... he has three original songs coming out in January." (16:34)

• Brandi Howard:
  "I feel really bad for them both. It's their private business." (19:04)

• Julie Goldman:
  "I feel like... it's a complicated situation and he's a human being." (25:05)

• Heather McDonald:
  "What are the orbs? They look like big bubbles, thicker and more dense. Could they be fake?" (33:35)

• Julie Goldman:
  "That's why nobody trusts you and why everything is a conspiracy theory now." (34:32)

• Heather McDonald:
  "She made a fake photo with the Pope, which is so surreal and controversial." (82:38)

• Brandi Howard:
  "Garcelle is ascending, completely ascending." (82:22)

• Julie Goldman:
  "We're changing people's lives, one date at a time." (88:17)

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Conclusion

In this episode, Heather McDonald, alongside Brandi Howard and Julie Goldman, navigates a whirlwind of topics from high-profile celebrity scandals and paranormal theories to personal anecdotes and podcast ventures. Their candid discussions offer listeners an inside look into the complexities of Hollywood, the intrigue of unexplained phenomena, and the dynamic relationships within reality TV circles. The episode balances serious discourse with humor and personal reflections, embodying the "juicy" and unfiltered essence of the show.

Transcript

[Heather McDonald]

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[Brandi Howard]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Julie Goldman]

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[Brandi Howard]

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[Julie Goldman]

Listen in. Listen up. Woo woo. Hannah McDonald.

[Brandi Howard]

Juicy scoop.

[Heather McDonald]

Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have your favorite girl stars of Dumb Gay Podcast. I have the dumb one, Brandi Howard and the gay one, Julie Goldman. That's true.

[Brandi Howard]

That's exactly right.

[Heather McDonald]

To our last show together as a throuple. 2024.

[Brandi Howard]

Karma 24.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. And wow, was it. What a great year it's been.

[Brandi Howard]

What a great year. Karma has been being served to so many people.

[Heather McDonald]

So many, so many people in. You know, from Diddy to people that we know. Just absolutely fabulous.

[Brandi Howard]

Yes, it's wonderful seeing karma serve to people you hate.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, isn't it?

[Brandi Howard]

Merry Christmas.

[Heather McDonald]

And now on to 2025. What a great Time. Going to some great parties.

[Brandi Howard]

We're thinking maybe, like, thrive 25.

[Heather McDonald]

I like it.

[Brandi Howard]

We're tossing around the theme for 2020. 25. Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

Well, what was that one? What we were going to. What was the beginning with an A. Amplify. Oh, amplify.

[Brandi Howard]

Amplify.

[Julie Goldman]

Amplify 25.

[Heather McDonald]

Amplify 25.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, there's a lot of things going in the world that we're going to get to that may stop 25 from even happening. But before we get there, do you guys have a fun weekend going?

[Julie Goldman]

Hungover. We're a little hungover.

[Heather McDonald]

We went to some good parties.

[Julie Goldman]

Well, we went.

[Heather McDonald]

We.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, we were just. We're celebrating. We did go see Wicked, and Julie could not handle not being in the loop.

[Julie Goldman]

I couldn't. You know, I needed to know.

[Heather McDonald]

I feel like. Okay, so Brandon is home and he said he'd go with me. I think we're gonna go tonight.

[Brandi Howard]

Here's the deal.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm almost right. It almost feels like an assignment, though. Like, I'm not.

[Brandi Howard]

Let me tell you how to do it.

[Heather McDonald]

But everyone says I'll love it, Right?

[Brandi Howard]

Well, we got. I insisted.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Cause I've been. Been to the movies. I need my phone like I need a double screen.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

And this was the first time I've been to. I mean, we haven't been to the movies in years.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Brandi Howard]

So we went to the seats where you can lay completely down.

[Heather McDonald]

Fancy. Fancy waitress. Does the waitress come by?

[Brandi Howard]

No, it's not that. It's in Burbank, so it wasn't that nice. But still the seats were comfortable.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

I took a full blanket and a Benadryl. And when I tell you, I was like, nighty night.

[Heather McDonald]

Did you sleep really?

[Brandi Howard]

I slept for an hour. I watched an hour, slept for an hour, woke up and still had another hour. And I was like, julie, I'm going to get to.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God.

[Brandi Howard]

Like, I had popcorn, fell asleep for an hour, woke, got M&Ms, and ate those for an hour. I'm like, this is beyond. It still ends on a cliffhanger.

[Heather McDonald]

I've never seen the musical. I don't really know the story. And I think it's best that I don't know anything. And then I'll go see it. Right.

[Brandi Howard]

That was the same with us. We've never seen the musical.

[Julie Goldman]

We've never saw the musical. All we know is, you know, Adele de Zeem and Defying Gravity. That's all we know.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Julie Goldman]

And then I have to admit, for me, personally, I liked it.

[Brandi Howard]

It was very cute.

[Julie Goldman]

I was surprised at the. There's a plot line and a storyline that I felt that was very touching.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Brandi Howard]

It's a comedy, and I don't think anyone. No one ever told me that. And I've never seen the musical. I should have known because of Kristin Chenoweth and Ariana Grande is hilarious.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my God.

[Brandi Howard]

But I was like, oh, this is a comedy, so you'll get through it easy.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, a lot of people can't believe that I haven't seen Wicked, being that I was Dorothy in the sorority production at Gamified Beta, usc, which was house day, and every house, the Kappas did the Cats. Your Kappa.

[Julie Goldman]

Yep.

[Heather McDonald]

They did Cats. We did wizard of Oz, you know, and it was, you know, somewhere over the rainbow, you'll find your home with your sisters all around you. Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, that's cute.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. And. Except I just remember this one time. This is a very Heather McDowell story of when I should have known then that there's something about my personality, that for certain people in the universe, it is a hatred like no other. Like, they just hate me. And so I did it for the three years. Sophomore, junior, senior year, I was the Dorothy in it, saying the solo. Okay, so, like, my senior year, this girl comes up to me at a bar and college and is like, hi. Real drunk. Hi, Dorothy. Isn't that your name, Dorothy? And I was like, oh, you mean from, like, rush week. And it was just, you know, something happened. Maybe we didn't ask her to be in the house. I don't know. I mean, there's like, 160 of us. It wasn't, like, up to me who got in, but. And I was like, wow. Like. And it was. It was kind of funny because she was, like, so angry and, like, drunk and, like, quoting, like, the weird play and stuff. And I was just like.

[Julie Goldman]

I had your picture up in her room with red strings connecting the dots to find where you were going to be. And she was like, I want to be Dorothy. I should have been Dorothy. She was mad at you. Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm just thinking of another story of people hating me.

[Brandi Howard]

So then when I went from college. Oh, yeah, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

So between junior and senior year, I was asked. I was at 12th street in Manhattan beach with all the tall, cute Manhattan beach volleyball players, and a guy approached me to say, would you like to be on Studs?

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, yeah, I remember Studs.

[Heather McDonald]

So then I went and I was on Studs, like, in that week, and it aired, and it was like, there was nothing on tv. So like everybody saw it and I wore and I said, well, are you going to be able to say that I go to usc, I'm going to be a USC senior. I just realized I'm wearing this shirt really obnoxious today, talking about maybe that's why these stories are coming to me. So the producer said, no, it's just that you're a college student. And I was like such a snob about it. I was like, well, that's not that good. Fine. I'm a realtor too. Cause I had my real estate license. I got it like somewhere between freshman and sophomore year.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh my God.

[Heather McDonald]

So I'm like, say I'm a realtor. I'm a 21 year old realtor because everybody else is like 27. Right. So I wore this little orange suit that I got at the Beverly Hills Mall or whatever and it was like a short sleeve orange suit with gold buttons and like a short miniskirt. Kind of like an Ally McBeal. Remember how Alec McBeal would wear real short skirts?

[Brandi Howard]

Kind of like when you do a porn and you're supposed to be in business.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, exactly.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And anyway, so I did the show and you know, people would yell at me, stones and stuff like that on campus. Anyway, after I left, I found out that the girls in the sorority found somebody in like an orange suit and like put it up on this wall and was like mocking it.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh my God, it was a red string again.

[Julie Goldman]

Red strings. Yeah, they're in the thing. They have a bulletin board with your pictures connected.

[Brandi Howard]

Was it you or was it.

[Heather McDonald]

I think it was somebody like a model in an orange short skirt and was like, you know, let's not forget this. That was here last year.

[Julie Goldman]

I don't know.

[Heather McDonald]

You know what?

[Brandi Howard]

The haters be hating.

[Heather McDonald]

The haters be hating. Like, it's just, it's just great.

[Brandi Howard]

I wish we had a picture.

[Heather McDonald]

To think that I still walked into 20, 23 and 24, not being aware that this has traveled with me my entire life.

[Brandi Howard]

Because you don't let shit bother you, I guess.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I do, but. Yeah, but now it's getting better. Every year is getting better. Yeah, that's why I wear these little hoops, because it's my purple heart from my time served in the podcast war in which I. I didn't necessarily win, but I got a purple heart. And it's these $42 earrings from Revolve.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, you got a little injured because that usually comes with an injury, right?

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

I was just exploited for three Grand. But that's fine.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, Exploited for three grand.

[Heather McDonald]

That's fine.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah. No, no, you survived it. And you. I would say exploited.

[Heather McDonald]

No, extorted. Extorted.

[Brandi Howard]

Extorted.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

I would say you did win, but that's just me.

[Heather McDonald]

And I think we all won as thruple. Oh, and I went to a real winner event on Friday. I went to Leanne Morgan, her fourth episode taping. I thought when Tammy Pascal invited me, I actually thought it was the pilot. So I didn't even want to text her and be like I'm coming because I just thought she'd be. But it was the fourth episode, so when we got to go, I hadn't been to a actual taping. This is a Warner Brothers taping of her show Leanne and it's. Chuck Lohr is the producer.

[Julie Goldman]

Wow.

[Heather McDonald]

Netflix. I mean if you couldn't have all the stuff. Kristen Johnson plays her sister.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh my God.

[Brandi Howard]

2024 did her solid.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh my God. And she deserves it. Like could not be a nice person and a avid shooter daughter. Major juicy scoopers listen all the time. And the daughter is her makeup artist. How great is that? Oh my gosh. So she's on set with her and so it was really funny, really clever. You know, they have great, everyone has great chemistry. The casting's great and it's juicy.

[Brandi Howard]

Well, when you told us about it, I just, we were all like, it. It's. It's such a good idea. Like it's perfect. Cuz she's a perfect person to do a live sitcom. Like a, like.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, she's a really good actor. She like all the timing and it moved and it was just crazy because I was like, when was the last time I was went to like a taping of a sitcom? Because you know, we, we've all done him and I've been on him. But I'm like, when was the last time like I sat in the audience cuz I'd go to some. And my niece was on Friends. That was the last time I did it. And it was on the Friends set.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, where's.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh my God, that's crazy.

[Heather McDonald]

It was the actual set of Friends. Like you pass the Central park perk. Like, yeah, like commissary. And then I'm like, wait, is this the. And I sat on the same side.

[Brandi Howard]

Like the same stage. In the same stage. Crazy.

[Heather McDonald]

And anyway it comes out. I think she said maybe March or something. But it's really, really funny and it's gonna be interesting if they're, you know, the comeback of sitcoms, of the sitcom. Cause it's such a great setup. You know, you work all week and they're rewriting at the last minute and then the live audience. And so like for a working actor, if you can get on one, amazing. It's really like bankers hours, you know, and like there's a shorter day. So she's like her, her girl who works on her team is like, oh my gosh, you're in Burbank. Leanne will be able to do the show when she comes back. Like the day that it's a shorter day where there's just a table read or whatever.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, it sucks for the writers, but for the actors, I mean, I would love to just be like a waitress who's just a regular. I just forgot about you. Just one line, here's your eggs. And then I walk away. Good night. I'm done for the week now. Yeah, I mean, just all everywhere.

[Heather McDonald]

I was waitress in like a pilot that didn't go with the star of. James Vanderbeek was the star of it. And I thought, oh my God, if this goes, maybe this will be like the regular diner. Like I was being like the Ursula mad about you. Like, you know, it's, it's all good. So I was really happy for her. Then, you know, went to another fun party Saturday in Laguna. It was a good, good. It's cooking along.

[Brandi Howard]

It's cooking along.

[Heather McDonald]

It's cooking along. With the holidays approaching thrive in a.

[Brandi Howard]

In a, in a million party situation.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, let's talk about weird news that happened over the weekend. So I went to the Kathy Hilton DirecTV party. This was the second year I won in a row and James Kennedy was there. For those that don't know, James Kennedy was arrested for domestic violence. This is the story as we know it. Around 11:30, he went back to his house. We know it's now Allie. At the time it said a woman, but we figured it was Allie, his long term girlfriend. They lived together at their house in Burbank. And a neighbor either saw them maybe in the front lawn or maybe just heard something and called the police. The police came, they said she. And then Allie said he got upset and he threw me to the ground.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, where did you hear that?

[Heather McDonald]

Now that's come out because people got the report that the woman said he threw her to the ground, but there were no marks on her. But they still arrested him for a misdemeanor $20,000 bail. So he got out and he said, my team is investigating my attorney or whatever is Investigating. It doesn't sound like she's moved out or left him. That next day, before we knew what happened that day, she made an appearance for something. So it happened late Tuesday night after the party. Wednesday, she did whatever appearance she was committed to.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then Thursday, the news came out, and then the Fontainebleau took him off their website where he has his residency. Dallas canceled it. But then this one said he did still do his show in. I think this was in, like, Milwaukee. So he did still do a show this morning, and it was, like, packed.

[Brandi Howard]

I heard it was packed.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

You know, I mean, what else is there to do in Milwaukee? Said with love.

[Heather McDonald]

So I always talk to him when we all talked to him when we saw him at Vanderpump, the Vanderpump gala. And at the Vanderpump gala, we did not know that Vanderpump was not coming back. And I said. And at that time, I had heard rumors it's gonna be a new cast. All new cast with new waiters from, you know, sir, except James Kennedy will be the only returning senior to it. You know, like, it's high school. And so I said, I've heard some things. And he goes, what have you heard? He was sitting there with Ali. And I said, this is what I've heard. And he goes, that's news to me, though. I have not filmed with the new people. I don't know anything about the new people. I don't know anything. Cut to a week later. They announce it's all new people know James. So that when I see him at the Kathy thing, I see him when he first walking in and you're checking. And I was like, james. And I don't know if he didn't hear me or he was just determined to, like, get inside, get to the bar. I think so. I don't know. You know, I went talking to him near the bar. I don't remember him holding a drink. And I wouldn't know what was in the drink.

[Brandi Howard]

Well, he had a drink at Vanderpump.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Brandi Howard]

It was a clear liquid. But I'm like, I don't think that's Pellegrino. I remember thinking to myself. But it's neither here nor there. I mean, to me, but right, right.

[Heather McDonald]

So then. So then I see him by the bar, and he's with this guy who, you know, is very, like, flamboyant and dressing like, you know, you would have thought he was a makeup artist. He tells me he's, you know, a comedian. He's in the Groundlings. And we start talking about that, which is cool. And he goes, I'm James and Ally's best friend.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, cute.

[Heather McDonald]

And I was like, okay. So that's their plus one. Meanwhile, Allie is doing a special thing with Kathy for DirecTV in her theater where she's reading her chart.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So it's kind of a special night for Ally, who looks stunning. So I see Ally briefly as she's doing something. Now I'm talking to James, and my sister's there, and he just starts telling us everything, you know, I go, how do you feel about it? And he's like, you know what? It's fucking great. Like, I'm doing the Fontainebleau. I'm booked to 2026. I have three original songs coming out in January. It's, like, crazy. I have show ideas myself. And so I'm like, it's great, James. Like, you have a skill. You're like, DJ Pauly D. Like, it's gonna. Like, you don't need it, but you could always pop in. Like, I'm being, like, positive back to him now. Shannon thought he was braggadocious, but I'm like, yeah, but that's it. And you've just been fired from a Show you're on 10 years ago, essentially. Like, yeah, you should.

[Brandi Howard]

You got to do.

[Heather McDonald]

You should be proud of yourself.

[Brandi Howard]

I wish we were better at that.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, like, you should be proud of yourself and tell. And so I was like, that. That is great. So then. So that's all I saw. And that was pretty early in the night. And then later on, when it all went down, Shannon goes, don't you remember when he came back up to us? And I go, no.

[Brandi Howard]

He's like, no, because I was drunk, too.

[Heather McDonald]

She goes, he basically repeated all the same stuff. So now I think, you know, I don't know. You know, there were two bars separated by a pool. And it really wasn't hard to get a drink the previous year. It was very hard to get a drink. It was better organized. They had anything you wanted. You want red wine, white wine, champagne. You want the special mixed drinks, the jalapeno, you know, tequila, Moscow Mule type of thing. They had a vodka Sweet thing, martini, like a pomegranate kind of whatever. They had anything you wanted. And food, but very little food. Like, very little food. And so, I mean, you walking around, you know, and where it's so awkward, the first one, you're like, thanks, Kim. Yeah. Like, you're literally knocking over someone to get, like, the little tomato soup and A grilled cheese.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So, yeah. And the party lasted pretty long, but it must have been right when they returned. Like, I'm wondering where that Was there an argument that maybe started in the car or whatever, and then maybe they heard them walking into the house or was it so loud? The neighborhood.

[Brandi Howard]

We know the street they live on. We've seen their house because we live in Burbank. It has a gate in the front. Like, it's very private in terms of, like, I don't think so.

[Heather McDonald]

It must have been the neighbor hearing.

[Brandi Howard]

Something or maybe they were walking in.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

And you do, you know, getting in arguments on the way home from parties is common. You know, it's like if somebody's very jealous or possessive, I feel really, really bad for him. Like, I really do. I'm not. Like, I feel bad for them both. Like, that's, you know, their private business. And listen, I know it myself. The neighbors in Burbank, they be nosy, honey, they get in your business. And I just feel so terrible for them. I really do. I feel really, really. I hate the story. It just sucks.

[Julie Goldman]

It does suck.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Julie Goldman]

And ultimately she's the one who you like. I don't know. As far as being a neighbor and like being a tattletale or whatever, I just feel like why don't you mind your own business and wait till you see. You didn't. What did you see? Well, you can't see in the, in the thing I did bugs me that I'm not listen, if you pushed her or whatever, deal with your karma and take the consequences. But she's there, she's not leaving. So it possibly is something that to someone, outside of an argument, even someone maybe accidentally being pushed, who knows.

[Heather McDonald]

But she did say to the police.

[Julie Goldman]

What did she say?

[Heather McDonald]

He threw me to the ground.

[Julie Goldman]

He threw me to the ground.

[Heather McDonald]

So she didn't say this is all a misunderstanding and they still took him in. And then, you know, who knows? Now she can say, well I retract that statement. And since she didn't go to the hospital or anything, however, I disagree with you guys. I feel like, you know, if you didn't, if you didn't say something, if you didn't call and if something really bad happened, then how would you feel? Same thing with the police. If the police didn't take him in and they let him be and then he really got mad at her or whoever. I feel like as a police officer, some 30 year old police officer, it's no sweat off their back to take him in if it gets dropped it gets dropped. That's the lawyer's deal.

[Brandi Howard]

Well, the police need to do what the police need to do once they're called.

[Heather McDonald]

And then the same thing with the neighbor. Maybe this wasn't the first time they heard something. I don't know. That's true. I feel like, you know, Kristin Doughty has alluded she wrote a book and she doesn't say his name, but it's chronological. And if you people are figuring out from her book that this was this relationship based on her boyfriend's was the one with him and she. It's very. I saw this girl read the book. It was very hard to follow. Like, it really shouldn't say anything. I was just in a horrible relationship and this is the pattern that you want to get out of. And like, she doesn't really. She doesn't give details of, like, we came back from shooting a scene and like, there's nothing specific to it.

[Brandi Howard]

When Raquel said a lot. Alluded to it a lot, too.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Nobody feels sorry for Raquel, but. Yeah, I mean, I do, but I. I think she alluded to it a lot, too.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

So, like drunken rages.

[Heather McDonald]

So I, I don't know what's going to happen with him. I feel like if Ali decides that she doesn't want to be with him, she should go and get a job at sir and keep this going, you know, and, and, you know, and then who knows, you know, I don't know. I. You know, look, I've had many exchanges him at parties and he's always been nice to me. Doesn't mean that he's a good person to his girlfriends.

[Brandi Howard]

Right. We worked with him on Vanderpump Rules after show and we. We knew him even years before that. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

I would say that he's a Coke for me personally, a character that's I feel a conflict with. I like him and then I don't like him and then I like him and then. And then. Then I don't like, like else because it's that for whatever reason and whatever his deal is and whatever, whatever, whatever, you know, I don't know. He's young, he's a guy. He is arrogant and he is whatever. But who now? But he's also drink. I don't know. But he's also fun and he's. It's a complicated situation and he's a human being. And I, It's a.

[Brandi Howard]

You know, I think he doesn't act like that if he doesn't drink. I really don't.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, Nick Vial said that he saw him, like, kind of running around and that he gave some order to that guy, like, hold this or whatever, and he just threw it away. He just mentioned it before the arrest came out, when he was recapping his evening as well. Because I saw Nick Viall and his wife there. Nick said that he just thought he was. You know, he just mentioned it as, like, a throwaway. Then it was a little more significant in light of the arrest. But I'm also saying if you bring this guy who says. Who's an aspiring comedian, actor, he's not famous. He's clearly, you know, James is plus one. And maybe his job was to go around and, like, take the good photos and whatever, and so to just witness someone go, hey, can you hold this to their guest that comes with them? I don't necessarily think that's bad. Like, if I was to have brought, you know, Drake to the party, like, Drake would. My son would have been. Not Drake the singer would have been, like. His job would have been to, like, whip out that light and do all that stuff.

[Brandi Howard]

But that's what Julie's saying about witnessing an argument from the outside. It's always gonna look so much more horrible to an outsider, whoever is the person who's raging.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Brandi Howard]

You know what I mean? Like, we've heard her neighbor yelling at his elderly father who's in a wheelchair, and I'll be horrified. But I have to tell myself, like, that's somebody's dad. And God knows your dad can get on your last nerve, and he takes care of him. And I'm just like, I have to shut down because I'll get upset and uncomfortable. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

But I have also watched him pick him up from the wheelchair and gently put him in the car and be nice to him. And it's like. And you just. Ugh. It's hard. You know, people imagine. I imagine somebody, if somebody overheard you fighting, you would be. You would think, my God, I must sound like a monster to someone else in the world myself.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

I must be a disgusting piece of shit for what I'm acting like and doing and saying and all of that stuff. Somebody saw that who didn't know me or a neighbor. Okay. I mean, I had a dad. He did throw her to the ground.

[Heather McDonald]

I had a dad. I mean, that yelled a lot.

[Julie Goldman]

Me too.

[Heather McDonald]

Very, very loud. Never physical or anything. Very loud. Yelling all the time. And I'd see the neighbors going on a walk, and I'm like, how have they not, like, called the police or said something? And then they still like, you know, referred my parents as realtors and stuff. And I'm like, how can. Like, you're not concerned that they're fucking maniacs, like, screaming about some listing, like. And I don't know, maybe then maybe it wasn't as loud as I thought. Maybe it didn't echo, like, to the neighbors.

[Brandi Howard]

I don't know. Or maybe the neighbors aren't as nosy as they are in Burbank.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know.

[Julie Goldman]

Or maybe it could be. I mean, I would think at that point, maybe you're right. Maybe they just heard it one too many times. Yeah, that could be. And I can imagine hearing a man yelling like that at a girl who you've seen in your neighborhood one too many times, that I can see that.

[Brandi Howard]

And I would say also they live on the same street as a sports bar that's really popular in Burbank. And I'm sure they get a lot of drunkies wandering down the street, going to the car, and they're probably just very aware of inebriated people on that street.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, that could be too.

[Brandi Howard]

You know, it sucks, though.

[Julie Goldman]

And at the end of the day, I hope that Ally does what's best for her.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

And I hope James, you know, I think he's different when he drinks and he knows that and he's tried over the years and it's really, really hard, I think. You know, I'm not sure if his. He might have like an alcoholic father. I'm not sure. But I feel my heart goes out to him too, you know, I mean.

[Heather McDonald]

I feel like if he then from here said, look, you know, I didn't touch her. I'm just saying his defense is like, look, I did yell. I have been verbally abusive, whatever. And it's always when I've had too much to drink and I have slipped on and off at the California sober whatever, I'm going to get help for that is the reason that's the impetus for my behavior. Then I think eventually people could forgive. But I also feel like if he's not on the show and he's doing other things, like, I don't know, are we getting away from this? Like, Tom Sandoval was just doing like a live the other yesterday and that girlfriend Victoria of his, she had posted something like, well, tiger never stripes changes his stripes. He is in love with the best friend or something. And so first somebody posted it, like, did he and Schwartz finally, like, do the deed? What are they talking about? And then they're like, no, she means that you know, maybe he cheated with another best friend, just like he did with the Raquel. And, you know, then she removed it. Then she removed her entire Instagram. And it's like, oh, my God. Everyone's like, well, maybe. Maybe he still has the house and he's having Schwartz move in or whatever. I don't know. I don't know. But I feel like. I don't know. Are we. Oh, I mean, we're talking about it, so I guess we're not, like, over them, but it just seems like a weird place with the. All the moving parts and it ending and like, I don't know. So there you go with the update on that. Okay, let's talk about these strobes, these drones everywhere. I talked about it a week ago.

[Brandi Howard]

By the way, you look really good in black.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, thank you.

[Brandi Howard]

You don't wear black a lot, but I love when you do.

[Heather McDonald]

Thank you. And, you know, if it wasn't for TikTok, I don't think I would have known. Now mainstream is talking about a little bit more. So it's just all these drones that are like, first it started in New Jersey, but it's been reported in the uk. There's been some here. Some people say, I see them coming out of the ocean. Some people say, I see them going into the ocean. One supposedly crashed and. And people said, like, the police came, and then the FBI said, leave police. The FBI are here. And then they were like hazmat suits. And now just yesterday, there was actually like an air force in a air base in Ohio. Was like, wait, we're shutting down because of all these drones that are in our airspace and we need to, like, it's not okay. But prior to that, everyone's just saying, well, we don't know, but we're not concerned and not saying anything. So there's so many different theories. Okay, so the first one is, it's aliens and they're coming. The other one is the aliens have always been here and they're leaving because some shit's going down on Earth and we're knowing about it. The other one is this Blue Stream theory that came out in the 1990s that an idea that the world governments would get together and fake a alien invasion for us to be one world order and be succumbed to our own government because we think the aliens are coming and we need to be subservient to the government and so that they protect us from the aliens. The other one is they're seeking. There's something that is there. Like a nuclear Bomb or some radiation leaking. And they are trying to detect where the radiation is. The other one is. Who's they?

[Brandi Howard]

The aliens?

[Heather McDonald]

No, our government.

[Brandi Howard]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

The other one is just that it's. The other one is China. The other one is Russia. The other one is. They're looking at the. It's our drones trying to discover what the orbs are. And the orbs are some alien entity. So those are all the things. What are the orbs? The orbs are like this weird. It almost looks like. Like, you know, those big bubbles that you go. You know, it's like that, but thicker, like, like more dense. And then like these real.

[Brandi Howard]

Because I thought that was. A lot of those pictures were fake of the orbs. Is that proven?

[Heather McDonald]

That's another thing. Could it be fake? I don't know.

[Brandi Howard]

I mean, a lot of the pictures are doctored and the videos. I wasn't sure about the orbs. I will say the thing with the aliens, I always have a believe that, like conspiracy theories. You know, obviously they started with jfk, but I believe that even prior to that, the reason people don't trust the government, the reason we're at the place we are now, is because everybody saw aliens back before there were phones and they'd be like in their farm, like, oh, look, there's a weird thing in the sky. And like, nobody would believe it. Nobody believed it. They always covered it up. They have the huge file on the aliens and they always covered it up. And I'm like, that's why nobody trusts you. That's why we don't trust you and why everything is a conspiracy theory now. Because they lie about. They lie about whatever, whatever ufo, unidentified flying object in the air might not be aliens, but it's some weird shit. So go ahead and tell us it's Russia, or go ahead and tell us it's the military, but they always lie.

[Heather McDonald]

Don't.

[Julie Goldman]

Gaslight.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Don't say you didn't see it.

[Brandi Howard]

I saw a joke on Twitter that said that it was that they were spy drones and they flew because there was a lot over Alabama and they were like trying to gather intelligence over Alabama and they couldn't find any.

[Heather McDonald]

Alabama juice again on Twitter. And Brandy didn't write it.

[Julie Goldman]

Interesting.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

I'm going to have to look into that because we do enjoy an alien abduction story. I don't know if you're into that.

[Brandi Howard]

No. We tried to get Heather to watch Is it phenomenon?

[Julie Goldman]

Phenomenon.

[Brandi Howard]

And Heather said she was too scared.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't want to go. I don't want to go to space and I don't want to go to space and I don't want aliens showing up. I do not. I also watched this weekend, the Megan Fox movie.

[Brandi Howard]

I did too.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, So I liked it. I watched it with Brandon.

[Brandi Howard]

You watched it with. I told you, it's so porny. I can't believe you watched it with.

[Heather McDonald]

So I watched it with Brandon as we did our tree. Okay. And be perfect Saturday morning, really. And so, first of all, she's so fucking gorgeous.

[Brandi Howard]

So gorgeous.

[Heather McDonald]

And the body is so ridiculous. And so basically it's the future. And this guy, his wife needs a heart transplant and they have a six year old and a little girl, a little boy. So while she's waiting in the hospital for her heart, he goes and gets the robots, which now you see them, like the Elon Musk ones that are like this, you know, but these look like humans, you know, but they are. They are. And they can do anything, babysit, do whatever. Primary user and everything. Really thought she acted good. Like a little robot.

[Brandi Howard]

I thought she did great. I told Julie, I was like, wow, she really looked like a robot.

[Heather McDonald]

Now I'm feeling badly for her because Machine Gun Kelly, now the story is that he cheated. She found him texting other women and they have a baby on the way. And they approached Brian Austin Green as he was coming out of like a Starbucks in Calabasas. I saw that and broke the news. He goes, what? I didn't know that. Yeah, they're broken up. And he's like, oh, man. He was so genuinely, like sad about it. And then the reporter or whatever, TMZ girl's like, so how do you feel about, you know, if she ain't got a Kelly down, not going to be around your kids anymore or something like that. And he goes, well, I don't like that. He goes, no, I mean, she's really excited about this baby. And our kids are really excited about this baby. I'm really. Wow. I'm really disappointed to hear if that's true. Work it out.

[Brandi Howard]

Is he with his Dancing with the Stars?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I think he is. I don't think she had a baby.

[Brandi Howard]

Okay, well, good for him.

[Heather McDonald]

Maybe she did. I don't know. So anyway, I'm annoyed with Machine Gun Kelly and so she was good in this. And it's. You can guess the plot, you know that. But you know, when it starts out, it seems great. You're like, yeah, that would be great just to have this girl that's like, that stands in the corner when you don't want her like a vacuum cleaner. But then, you know, then she starts to get too smart or she redid her own thing. And like Megan Fox.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, well, that's the thing. The AI comes to life. They start to gain consciousness. Sentient reality. And there's so many different movies like that. If you're like that world, that's a whole K hole.

[Heather McDonald]

But then I'm just saying stuff is really scary.

[Brandi Howard]

What really scared me in the movie was, like, at one point, when they're in the hospital and all the.

[Heather McDonald]

It's called surveillance.

[Brandi Howard]

Or it's called subservience.

[Heather McDonald]

Subservience. Okay?

[Brandi Howard]

Very corny and porny. Just so everyone knows. It's not porny because there's a bunch of sex. It's porny just because.

[Julie Goldman]

Because she's hot. Walks around her house like, I'm gonna do the don't laundry now.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, she has a very. She has a very short dress on and stuff.

[Brandi Howard]

When she walked out of that, she was the. The alive wife. The real lady wife was running out of the hospital, but all the staff and the ambulance, like, drivers and everybody's AI, so they were all just shut down. So it's like there's no one. It's all robots. There's no people.

[Heather McDonald]

And then I was watching with Brandon, and I go, you know, only there's just two parts of the movie with the hot dad, okay? Who's like an architect or a foreman or something, is. Only in movies today do the characters watch old black and white movies on tv.

[Brandi Howard]

Yep.

[Heather McDonald]

Nobody in real life. And of course, he's watching an old black and white movie. And then, you know, robot Megan Fox sits down and he starts to explain it like Big did to Carrie. Like, nobody watches black and white movies. And then the other thing is, it's AI world, okay? Where AI people are walking around and everywhere, but he still likes to tinker with his old Mustang. Also, only in movies is there a guy, like, tinkering at night in his garage. He just loves to tinker with that old car.

[Brandi Howard]

He just fix up his old muscle car. I'm like, and how is he not tired? He's an airtech. Those are kids.

[Heather McDonald]

His other car was a Tesla, which needs no maintenance at all. So I was like, what is this?

[Brandi Howard]

And my issue is the heart transplant. And two days later, she's out of the hospital. I'm like, that's. That doesn't track. Aren't you tired? And she's picking up the baby, and she's just like, oh, she fell down the stairs. At one point after the heart transplant.

[Heather McDonald]

This was the hard thing. This was basically a combo of Megan, which was an AI little girl that you buy for your daughter, who has no friends, who turns evil, meets the hand that rocks the cradle where the.

[Julie Goldman]

Nanny wants the light.

[Heather McDonald]

So you know what?

[Brandi Howard]

She's not dead. So I'm looking forward to the part two.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Julie Goldman]

Oh my God.

[Brandi Howard]

La.

[Julie Goldman]

He killed himself.

[Brandi Howard]

And now they find her and the dad. Yeah, they were. They thought she was kidnapped.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. So then, you know, he ends his life. Then people see her, Mexico, whatever. Now we know what happened.

[Brandi Howard]

What happened?

[Heather McDonald]

She and the boyfriend, ex boyfriend, met two other people and they decided to marry them to be paid for a green card scam. Her dude was Argentinian and his was something else. And so that's why she didn't go. It wasn't romantic. It was a full green card scam. But maybe she thought she was going to get caught for doing it or something and that's why she went dark with her family. Oh, so she was never kidnapped. She was Never manipulated. She was doing a scam for money.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh my God. That's really. You know, I'd rather watch subservience.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

So sad. Because her dad killed himself.

[Heather McDonald]

And then you would let your family worry because you're. Cause I guess she realized there something that she could be arrested for whatever she was doing or caught. And then escaped into Mexico and all this other stuff.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh my God.

[Heather McDonald]

And so now they said, you know, if we. If you gave us any money, we're giving all the money back. The family's like, we're glad we're safe. Said she's safe. But I mean, this is just up there with like a Sherry Papini type of situation. Like the faking of stuff is just.

[Brandi Howard]

It makes me wonder whoever organized the green card scam might have murdered the father. Oh, because that's gotta be a big ring.

[Heather McDonald]

I think that this. I think whatever they did, it was pretty clear that it was voluntary. What happened to him on this? I think he jumped out of like a parking structure and there's cameras everywhere. So I think.

[Brandi Howard]

I hope so, because I remember before she even was found, I thought it was suspicious.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Thinking because he was investigating all down by the Staples center and he was trying to figure out they were investigating. So hopefully there's cameras. If not, they should look into it.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, some updates on Luigi. Oh, the prep school turned assassin.

[Brandi Howard]

I think you can just say Luigi at this point.

[Heather McDonald]

Luigi.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Former surfer. He spent a couple years between college and becoming a murderer in Hawaii, surfing with friends. That just said he was a delight. So fun, everything. That's where somehow he had some back ailment.

[Brandi Howard]

He heard his back.

[Julie Goldman]

He broke his back, didn't he?

[Brandi Howard]

He broke his back surfing.

[Heather McDonald]

And then in that depression of having chronic back pain is when he got radicalized. Now some of the other interesting things is that comes from the very wealthy family. Grandmother left the family $30 million. Also the family made their money running these nursing homes that have also many lawsuits and things. Doesn't mean that the nursing homes are bad, but they've had, you know, many complaints and things about employees or whatnot that have worked there and people not being treated right as patients. Interesting, because that's a medical situation too. Then the final one is his attorney. Let me see his. His attorney. The family now has an attorney saying, we didn't know anything. But his attorney is married to the attorney representing Diddy.

[Brandi Howard]

Wow, what a pair.

[Heather McDonald]

So she's a pair. She's a former prosecutor turned defense attorney. She's defending him. They Are. I think they're pleading not guilty.

[Julie Goldman]

How are they pleading not guilty?

[Brandi Howard]

Both of them?

[Heather McDonald]

At that point, probably.

[Julie Goldman]

What insanity?

[Heather McDonald]

I don't think you could say it. Insanity. With that kind of planning.

[Julie Goldman]

He had a manifesto and they found the gun on him. I don't understand how they can say that it's self defense at that point. I would think you just kind of gotta go, I don't know. He's guilty, but he's young and he's crazy, so why don't we put him in an. I mean, I don't even know what you do there.

[Brandi Howard]

He can't be. I mean, everyone's in love with him and they love. He certainly has the fandom of the Internet. But I'm just like, you're in jail for life, guy. Because nobody can trust that you're not just gonna decide to kill whoever another time to do some vigilante justice. It's like, no, you just can't. You just can't. That's the exact type of person that jail is for.

[Heather McDonald]

Right?

[Brandi Howard]

And then, you know, we can't trust that they. That wasn't even personal.

[Julie Goldman]

Right, Right.

[Heather McDonald]

So just an interesting, you know, holiday dinners for these two and their families. But hey, you know, defense attorneys, everyone deserves a defense attorney, you know, we'll see what happens. This OnlyFans girl who's English, her name is Lily Phillips, very attractive. She is in a documentary called the Mirror about how she slept with 100 guys in 24 hours.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my.

[Heather McDonald]

And filmed it. Barf.

[Brandi Howard]

Just barf.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, now everyone is probably like, I can't imagine this. Well, guess what? I can. Because one thing that I used to do when I'd come home from standup and stuff back in the day is I would watch this public access channel where this creepy guy would interview porn stars. And I was totally fascinated by these women, why they did it. What? And there was a girl that. This was done. Like, they've done this. Girls have done this where they film it and they're like, guys are lining up. And I mean, this is disgusting. Everybody. But like, if you're having that many people like you, they were taking like ice breaks and stuff. Like, you know, after you have a baby, they give you like an ice pack down there. They'd have to, like, do that. And she's like, well, my family, you know, they still want me to get married. And I still think there's a guy out there for me. She's saying all this stuff. She says the next goal is a thousand people. No, I swear, there's, there's. There's women that have done 1500, I swear. From the 90s. Yes, there are. Like, I can't. I remember it was a thing and it was like a world record. I'm like, are you hoping to get like the Guinness World Record? I guess this was a world record.124. No, 10, 24 hours will be a world record. I think the girls I'm Remembering was like 1500 over three days or something.

[Julie Goldman]

But what is constitutes.

[Heather McDonald]

What are you doing with that plaque? Guinness Book of World.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, I'm saying, like, if you're doing 100 or 1500 guys, what's the. What's the rule? Are they finishing?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Are they going in one time, right? Two. And then. Do you have to do the mouth too?

[Brandi Howard]

No, Julie always does that. She always. Are you kidding me? She always thinks like, oral sex is sex. Like, I'm like, no, that doesn't count as sex.

[Heather McDonald]

Didn't you.

[Julie Goldman]

I'm sorry, I just saw.

[Heather McDonald]

Then you don't miss Bill Clinton? I'm not saying Bill Clinton did not have sex with that.

[Julie Goldman]

I understand that.

[Brandi Howard]

Oral sexual relations.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Julie Goldman]

And I'm not saying that oral sex constitutes one. Well, whatever it is for what? Everyone. And whatever. Because I can't.

[Heather McDonald]

Whatever.

[Julie Goldman]

I am guessing as a gay person. Sorry. I guess I never have sex. However, I will say that if a woman is doing that with a hundred guys. All I'm saying is, does she have to do it both ways? I'm not saying that. That would be the only way.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm happy to say I don't know the answer to that. I haven't done enough research on Lily. I'm guessing it is with her vagina.

[Brandi Howard]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Only yes. And I don't think it has to be completion. But also, like, who would you rather be? The mother of Lily or the mother of one of the sons? Like number 67.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. Oh, right.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, I think I'd rather be the mother of Lily. Like, at least she's making money. Like, I'm so gross. Like, who does that?

[Julie Goldman]

Stands in line. You're standing in line with your dick in your head and your friend.

[Heather McDonald]

And then you go to Chipotle after, like, what the.

[Brandi Howard]

And I wonder if this is the girl, because the girl is British onlyfans who does like the barely legal guys. It's like this huge controversy because she goes to like spring breaks with like all the like newly 18 year old high school students.

[Heather McDonald]

So maybe a lot of these guys are virgins.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, no.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah. And so. Because I think, yeah, I would rather.

[Heather McDonald]

Buy my son a Megan Fox AI robot. And I'm like. And Megan is my daughter in law. And I'm like, hi. Like, I would rather have that robot than someone feel like they need to do this. It's just an awful world. Aliens. Aliens cannot come fast enough.

[Julie Goldman]

I'll tell you this about the aliens. I do know a guy who sucked with an alien who got by 100 aliens in one day. And he did have to suck all their dicks, too. He. No, he's. Because he believes that he a was abducted.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Julie Goldman]

And not only was abducted, but now has a direct line to the aliens who speak to him on a frequency that only he can hear. And they are directing him to build a chamber in his yard of which he is building out of beeswax. And he is currently building it.

[Heather McDonald]

I hope he's not in a homeowners association, because that seems like that would be a violation. Beeswax. Will the bees start to come around?

[Julie Goldman]

No, the beeswax is supposed to be connected to the frequency of which the aliens are going to. And if you're in that chamber, then that. I mean, it's a whole thing. I mean, it is a whole.

[Heather McDonald]

And this is your best friend?

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Yep, it's my best friend. And he. The level of detail, though. I mean, he talks. He talks about it.

[Heather McDonald]

How do you know him?

[Julie Goldman]

I know him through a job.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Julie Goldman]

Through a job.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Julie Goldman]

And he.

[Heather McDonald]

In Hollyweird? I think so.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes, exactly.

[Brandi Howard]

He works with a lot of chemicals, though.

[Julie Goldman]

He does work with a lot of chemicals.

[Brandi Howard]

A little.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

But the level of detail, this is where you go. This is why with abduction, stuff like that, you're like, that's crazy. But then.

[Brandi Howard]

No, but I. Not me. I feel like it's the worst thing in the world because if I got abducted by aliens, I probably just have to kill myself. Because nobody believes you. And sometimes I just want to go, maybe they were.

[Heather McDonald]

Maybe I got abducted by aliens. They'd be like, we've heard the sorority story already, Heather, shut the fuck up. We have alien brains. We remember everything. And I'd be like, oh, did I tell you when I was Dorothy? Shut up, bitch.

[Julie Goldman]

Like, remember the girl in the bar who got mad at you for playing Dorothy?

[D]

It's me.

[Julie Goldman]

It's me.

[Heather McDonald]

I've been following you since usc. Dumb bitch. You think so highly of yourself.

[Julie Goldman]

Ugh.

[Heather McDonald]

Ugh.

[Julie Goldman]

It's fucking. It's so crazy.

[Brandi Howard]

It's crazy.

[Julie Goldman]

It's crazy. Cause the detail is there.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

The Detail is there.

[Brandi Howard]

He needs to start a culture.

[Julie Goldman]

He like, I'm like, ah. I mean, he's so deep. It goes so deep too. It goes into the government and it goes into like it's. But the detail, once you get into this, then you think, are they just making up the detail? But the words he's using are believable.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Julie Goldman]

It's so bizarre not saying I believe it. I'm just saying I can't. I don't, I don't even, I don't even know.

[Heather McDonald]

Every day to your fullest.

[Brandi Howard]

It's if you need a hundred, I.

[Heather McDonald]

Mean, keeping your vagina full with a hundred dicks, if that's, that's what you want to do. Okay, so this, we talked a little bit about this last week. So Jay Z wrote his attorneys fighting back this latest lawsuit of a 13 year old girl who said that she was assaulted by him. And there were two other celebrities there, one being a female. And this whole story after the 2000 MTV, he wrote like a letter saying this isn't true. Now the girl is saying, well, I don't know for sure now. I don't know. I don't know that I remember the face exactly. And all of this. Well, I think she got scared.

[Brandi Howard]

Did she get paid?

[Heather McDonald]

Let's hope something happened where this is going to go away now.

[Brandi Howard]

I hope she didn't just get threatened. I hope she got paid.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Because that was the point of this anyway. So hopefully they just paid her a lot of money and she got paid.

[Heather McDonald]

Because what it does is it kind of makes you poke some, you know, that. Well, you know, this Busby attorney who has 169 people that said they're victims of diddy or whatnot. Now it's like Jay Z and his people are making it seem that Busby is like not. Is like an ambulance chaser. And so if you're just going after everybody and kind of pushing them in a narrative that fits all the other narratives of oh, I went there and then I drank something that tasted funny. And then da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Then you know, how well were these other documents? I mean, obviously Cassie was well documented. We know that she was a victim.

[Brandi Howard]

You know, like all these other things.

[Heather McDonald]

Credibility of all of them. And I'm like, I think that's the plan. And going up like strongly against, you know, I mean it is a 13 year old. It is two, you know, 25 years ago.

[Brandi Howard]

It.

[Heather McDonald]

She was a child. She did say there was, you know, some substance. How, who's to Say that it was him and not somebody else. And I mean, but what is the other evidence that made him take it? It's just like. So I thought when I first heard Jay Z's like, angry response, I thought it was a good response.

[Brandi Howard]

I did too.

[Heather McDonald]

In his defense.

[Brandi Howard]

I do too.

[Heather McDonald]

Because I'm like, I feel like when people accused me of not doing so, I have been like, fuck no. And they're like, oh, why? Why are you defending yourself? Why are you, Brian? Why are you bringing more attention to it? Because it's like not true. So it's like I think that he was like, this isn't true.

[Brandi Howard]

Like, and you were like acting like it was unhinged. And I'm like, no, that's like he reacted. He wrote it himself. I was into it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And I mean, look, there's all these people that have been saying, wait, you know, there's stuff with him and Beyonce and this that so far though, like there is, let's see, is there videos? Is there something that you know. But there's a lot of stories going around and people say it very compelling and you see them on their podcast saying it and you're like, why would this person lie? Well, because, you know, you gotta say something. I don't know. It's weird. I don't know. I don't know the truth.

[Brandi Howard]

I certainly hope that they don't.

[Heather McDonald]

I hope they find a way to.

[Brandi Howard]

Get Diddy anywhere near off.

[Heather McDonald]

No, I don't want Diddy off at all for just the, the things that he did with just the first few that are more public. But yeah, the 169 or whatever he has Busby is where I think they're going to try to poke holes in. And I think Jay Z just does, does really wants to like remove himself from that.

[Brandi Howard]

I'm sure everyone who that is going to get, speaking of the shrapnel is going to get hit with the shrapnel. Who was around those freak offs. And I mean, I'm sure a lot of people are sweating bullets.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I mean.

[Brandi Howard]

Cause he wasn't there alone. You know, there were a lot of other celebrities that went to those and they're, I guess, I mean they're big.

[Heather McDonald]

Orgies essentially and people saying kids did show up. All of a sudden there were kids there and they're like, what are the kids doing here? And it was like weird. Like they brought them in. Like there's stories of that. There's stories of that. Is there video evidence of it? I don't Know, that would be the thing. Jen Shaw, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

[Julie Goldman]

How's she doing?

[Heather McDonald]

Well, it looks like she could get out as early as December 2027. So that's three years away. Three. Three more years. No, we're in December 24th.

[Brandi Howard]

Three, because.

[Julie Goldman]

What was the sentence? Eight years or was it.

[Heather McDonald]

It went from nine to six and now it's going down a little bit. More. Interesting though, her assistant, that she was, you know, trying to say actually was the mastermind of it. He only got nine months, so he must have spilled the beans on her.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, yeah, I think, I think that totally came out. That he just like. Yeah. Turned state's evidence or whatever they say she is teaching exercise classes, hanging out with Elizabeth Holmes.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Probably getting massages, getting, you know, lots of cunnilingus if she so chooses.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, well, and I mean, hopefully she's.

[Brandi Howard]

Got a prison girlfriend.

[Heather McDonald]

There is not a doubt in my mind that Salt Lake City will still be around when she's out. When she's out. And I, I think it says December 20th, 27th. I. I also think she'll get out earlier. It'll. There'll be another announcement, six months and it'll be like December 26th.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then they'll be like, okay, we.

[Brandi Howard]

Just really gotta bring her back. Like Abby Lee Miller. Like, you know what, just, just go deal with your health.

[Julie Goldman]

Like, you can't, like, whatever. The confines will be like, you don't get to do another MLM or whatever the hell.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Even though she's getting the massages and the cunnilingus.

[Julie Goldman]

Uh huh.

[Brandi Howard]

Time must not fly like it has for us. You know, it does seems like she tries to.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, when Teresa talks about it, she'd be like, you know, I walked around the track and I was like, God, why, why me? You know, And I'm like, something must be better on the other side. And I feel like for her the year wasn't that bad. But a year is different than like five years.

[Brandi Howard]

Way different. Martha Stewart did the year too.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, I think a year is doable because it's really like, okay, I gotta get through Christmas, I gotta get through the 4th of July. I got like, you know, and then also like a year, if you wanted to be positive, a year to write the book. A year not to drink. A year to work out, a year to like relax. Well, I don't, Yeah, I don't know how relaxing it is because it's like you're in those bunk beds and what I've heard Is like, there's always some crazy bitch, like, screaming in the night. So I don't. I think that sleeping is where it's the worst.

[Brandi Howard]

Just shut the up. How annoying.

[Julie Goldman]

Plus, and all of that's when you commit.

[Brandi Howard]

Now you murder again in prison because you've got to kill her.

[Heather McDonald]

These aren't the murder.

[Julie Goldman]

I know, but still, if you're screaming.

[Brandi Howard]

Like that, you might have to go.

[Julie Goldman]

I'm gonna turn into one. I need to go to sleep. I'm tired. And then g. And then all the guards all around.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, that's the bummer.

[Julie Goldman]

That is. I just did something in a prison. And as an actress. As an actress.

[Heather McDonald]

A fake prison.

[Julie Goldman]

It was a. But it was in a real prison.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, you went to a real prison?

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. And it was like, can you tell.

[Heather McDonald]

Us what this show is that you're starring in?

[Brandi Howard]

We just don't know if you. Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

It's a secret. All right, fine. That's Hollywood, you guys.

[Brandi Howard]

But you know.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, you told me, but I didn't know. So you just don't.

[Julie Goldman]

I'm not sure.

[Heather McDonald]

Just don't tell yet.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay, so. And it was so weird because it's a real. Real, like, going into it, driving into the thing, parking. But then you didn't escort, like, the surface, and then you need an escort into the thing, and then you're in the building.

[Brandi Howard]

It was a woman's prison.

[Julie Goldman]

It was a detention center. So it was a lesser. It was like a more minimum, whatever. But then on the other side, apparently, there was, like, a maximum. And while we were there, there was a jailbreak, and a prisoner, male prisoner, beat up a guard and was running around loose, and they had to lock us in, like, the. Where we were on set. But it was like one of the prison rooms. Like, what you see on tv.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, wow.

[Julie Goldman]

Like, when they're in those seats in the middle. And then there's, like, the prison. It's like you go up the stairs, and there's, like, cells up there. It's what I imagine there to look like. Like, it's not as scary as. But it's like that where, you know, it's like a door, and there's two bunk beds.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

And a thing. And the sink.

[Brandi Howard]

And it's like, to go to the bathroom in there, too.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Julie Goldman]

Toilet is right there. I mean, they're going to the bath. They're going number two in the room.

[Brandi Howard]

Can you wait?

[Julie Goldman]

That's where I go.

[Brandi Howard]

Can you wait until, like, yard time and then be like, I'm gonna stay Back and go number two. You go to the yard, maybe.

[Julie Goldman]

But what if you're having ibs? I would be able to do it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

I would probably be the prisoner who'd get killed because they're like, she's fucking shitting every two seconds in the room.

[Heather McDonald]

I can't take it.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay, you guys, we're gonna shiver in the middle of the night.

[Heather McDonald]

I always thought at first when I get there, you know, they're gonna hate me, you know? But then I feel like. Then I start to, like, imitate, like, the guards behind their backs, right?

[Brandi Howard]

But then once you play Dorothy, right?

[Heather McDonald]

And then the guards would find out, and then they'd get pissed. Like, they wouldn't have. Just like, in high school, like, when I did all the teachers and it was fine. And I became so popular because I could do all the teachers. And then the teacher is like, can I talk to you, Heather? And she's like, I heard you made fun of my speech yesterday. You know, because it was like, we teepeed the brother school, and we put, like, tampons and, like, maxi pads and wings. You remember the wings?

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, sure.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, all over. Like, the vending machines and stuff. And we hung the tampons, like, with string, like, all over. Cause they had, like, attacked our Mary. They put bubbles in our Mary fountain. And so we were like, when to get them back. And I remember she said she was so mad at us, and she didn't know who did it. And so we, like, all got called in. And she goes. She's like, I'm supposed to go to grammar schools tonight to Catholic grammar schools in the Los Angeles Archdiocese and say, come to Louisville, become woman. Put tampons on your brother's goal.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

And I was like, oh, yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

So then you went right out and started doing her speech to everyone.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I was doing the speech. And then. And then she wanted. Then she kind of was mad, but then she was like, okay, I kind of want to hear it now. So then I had to, like, do it for her.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, who told. Does someone tell any or did she hear you overhearing?

[Heather McDonald]

I think it just got around. Like, I think just people could just were like, this is, like, hilarious. Because we all had to, like, go and get the speech. And then it was like, who's going to turn on? Because it was probably, like, about 25 of us out of, like, 100 students. And so we're like, who were the 25, you know, that did it?

[Brandi Howard]

And it was like, the burn book.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So I just wanted I came across this woman.

[Brandi Howard]

Wow.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

And she's old and she's like, how does this tan look? And it's. And it's. She's doing one of those fitness competitions that Tamara has done, that Teresa has done. So I just thought maybe Jen Shaw could do this. When she comes back, she gets in the bedazzled bikini. They don't let them drink water for a week. So, like, all the skin is like. So they are even more, like, cut. And then they do that chocolate spray and, like. But she didn't do spray on her. She didn't do the tan on her face or.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, because at that point that would be blackface.

[Heather McDonald]

But she's like 70 and she's got.

[Julie Goldman]

Her body looks amazing. Like, it's as if. If there's no wrinkles on it or anything.

[Heather McDonald]

So I decided to see that because I was like, that's going to be Jen Shaw. Let's talk about Real Housewives of Song late.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

There's going to be a good episode this week. We're going to hear more about the marriage of Bronwyn and Todd. We see a little bit about. She got attacked by the dog.

[Brandi Howard]

I read the details of it, and it was so intense, I wish I didn't even read it.

[Heather McDonald]

So Bronwyn, the new girl who's married to a much older man, she goes to the airport to meet them to go on the Puerto Vallarta trip. And she's like, yeah, it's been hard because I was at the park with my dog or somewhere and she was attacked. And I mean, her legs are, like, punctured by dog teeth. Bruises up and down the back of her legs. Her arm.

[Brandi Howard]

She fractured it. Fractured her arm.

[Heather McDonald]

Horrible.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And so I don't know if what I saw was the episode or this upcoming episode, but. But she's like, yeah, we try. You know, I called Todd, he didn't answer as I was on my way to the hospital. So then I had Gwen, the daughter, call him and he's like, oh, she'll be fine. And then finally, like, we FaceTimed him. And he's like, oh, well, that doesn't. That doesn't look good. But, you know, take an aspirin. I don't know. And so they're like. And then she also hints that there was infidelity, some on his part.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

She's like, you don't know what I've gone through with infidelity with Tom.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, yeah, that's right. That's in the preview. Gonna be so juicy.

[Heather McDonald]

She entered this thing with an exit plan. She's. She.

[Brandi Howard]

I think they're doing like a Kelsey grammar. Camille.

[Heather McDonald]

I think he was just like. Yeah, I think he probably was like, this isn't a great idea, but let her do something, because then she has a job, and if it doesn't. If we don't end up together, then she's not my responsibility. And then she was like, of course wanting to do it. She knew Lisa before, and I don't know that he really watched or did his research to see, like, okay, you know, and then the few times that he's been on it, he's like, shut up. Stop acting like that. And then she's like, I have to act like this. If they scream at me, I have to scream back, like, I have to do this to keep this job. So I think we will see next season the demise of the marriage and third season will be the divorce. That's my prediction.

[Brandi Howard]

And then I would be interested to see what kind of guys she dates, because I kind of wonder if she does have kind of like a daddy fetish, you know?

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, all the girls on Beverly Hills, every single one is single, and nobody's really dating anybody.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, wow, that's weird. I didn't think of that. They're all single.

[Brandi Howard]

None of them are housewives.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. And. But, well, Bose is a widow, the new girl, and she is dating somebody. But we haven't seen him. We just saw a photo of him.

[Brandi Howard]

I'm obsessed with her.

[Heather McDonald]

Garcelle's been on the hunt for years and never dated anybody. And Garcelle's been real snark. She's been a real snark to Dorit and everybody else.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I guess she says again in an upcoming episode, she doesn't believe that the robbery is what we think it is. And TK Wrote back something nasty on social media. Something like, really Garcelle? You know, do you have anything else to talk about but us? Or something like that?

[Brandi Howard]

Well, the Garcelle stands are out and popping off. The timeline being shady. They're all with her on this robbery thing. It's like way back on social media, and the timeline doesn't even seem shady, but they just love to try and act like. PK like, posted some picture of a wrapped up carpet that looked like a dead body, like, a few days before the robbery and was like, does anyone know where I can get rid of this? I would ask Dorit, but she's out of the country for a while. It was Just a joke. It's still there. Acting like it was her in there. And people are like, see? And it's like, I don't know. I don't know that well.

[Julie Goldman]

I put on record and I'll say, stand by it. And I've said it from the beginning. I believe he planned it. And I don't think she knew. And I think she's truly traumatized and I think he's annoyed that she's traumatized. I think it started the demise of their relationship. Whether he was cheating on her for a million years or whatever. But that whole situation that I do believe he planned and that got totally screwed is the reason why they are not. That they can't. That he can't deal with any of it anymore. I think he completely fucked up.

[Heather McDonald]

I think that just like you can pick apart the clues of that and what makes sense and what doesn't. It's up there. And obviously a child wasn't murdered, but it's kind of like a JonBenet. Like you can talk about who killed JonBenet forever because there's so many weird things and there's so many different theories and which, you know, why, what, wait, they came home that night. Like, could it have been something else? You know, all these other things, like. And you know, there are a lot of questions about it. I recall that she said she was coming home. She ended up coming home a day early. Was there some plan to whoever these robbers were, Were they under some impression? Maybe they. Maybe it was a. They were surveying the house. Maybe they got word from someone with, you know, that was like, hey, I know this couple that's not going to be there. So that's why they came at 10 o'clock, which is a little early. Maybe they thought they were still all gone. Also, there was something about breaking into the. The sliding glass door to get in. Yet the door was like unlocked. So they never even tried to open the door. Now I might be missing up clues. I'm just saying, like why it does keep coming up. And then that she was able to keep her ring. I don't know if she turned it. I don't know if it was in a jewelry cleaner with a lid on it like I do at night.

[Brandi Howard]

Do you do that every night?

[Heather McDonald]

Pretty much. Now it's this like diamond cleaner stuff that you just throw and you. Whatever. So it could have been that she could not have, you know, and then they had the instructions to just go in the closet, take a sheet, take everything from the closet. And that was their Instructions, you know, and they thought when they went in there, they thought there was going to be nobody there. So they were not murderers. They were breaking an entry.

[Brandi Howard]

And if they ever do get caught, it doesn't matter that they will get charged with kidnapping. That's like the charge, if you, like, do that when someone's home.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. I mean, I know when there was this gang of robbers that was happening out in, like, Westlake, and they were Danish or something, and the story was they would come through the golf course on Friday nights just a few years ago because they knew that a lot of the people were at the club for, like, a Friday night thing. So they would not break any entry. They would, like, just get in the house, steal the bags, steal the stuff, and then leave. And if they were to ever get caught, they would just be expedited back to their country. Like, extradited. Extradited.

[Brandi Howard]

But they'd probably be expedited as well also. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then. So they steal the stuff. They have a whole system where they give the real bags to whoever. And they didn't, you know, they. So, like, we. I still don't know. Was there a gun to her head? Was it a real gun? Was it a fake gun? There's no doubt that she was traumatized. There is no doubt that she was traumatized.

[Julie Goldman]

That was real.

[Brandi Howard]

And I think they. What? I don't agree with Julie. I think that. And I certainly, like, 100% think PK was cheating on her. And I think he has a girlfriend now, but so it's not like. I think he's not a douche. But Kyle was also. The thing is, you can easily Google these people's address. It's just a fact.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

And she was saying she was Instagramming, that she was in, you know, London.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

And Kyle was robbed as well. I mean, she had all of those, you know, even, like, keepsakes from, like, her mom.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Brandi Howard]

And it's like. And, you know, just so. So was Khloe Kardashian. Like, I mean, if they all have to do.

[Julie Goldman]

Some of.

[Heather McDonald]

Sophia Bush was just robbed.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And there's a lot of robberies going on in LA and have been since the ring bling. Like, and when you let people know where you are and all this other stuff, you know. So I think, yes, there is a reason to speculate, but there is no proof of it. And after a couple years, like, as a cast member, I kind of don't think it's Garcelle's place to, like, bring it up anymore.

[Brandi Howard]

I Did. Like, when she said.

[Heather McDonald]

But I don't know that this was.

[Brandi Howard]

Took a sip of the water and said, well, she still has her jewelry. And then took the shady sip of the water, I was like, that was like, her best line. But that was last season. But, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But I also don't know why she has it so out for her. Like, it's pretty devastating to be separated from the father of your kids and stuff when the kids are still little. Like, I still don't know why she. What. What has Dorit ever done to Garcelle?

[Brandi Howard]

I don't know. I mean, I think Dorit just bugs when they film.

[Heather McDonald]

Dorit's the Heather of the show.

[Brandi Howard]

I think she. I don't know if she never.

[Julie Goldman]

She's not letting her get away with anything. Like, at that dinner where she was like. Like, no, I disagree. Well, she was like, I'll. I would take, acknowledge or apologize to you, Kyle. Blah, blah, blah. And there was Garcelle's like, no. And she's like, excuse.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, what? Yeah, no, she's like, well, obviously, I'm not your favorite person Garcelle thing.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Well, you're not. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

I guess we're on the same page there.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. She's like.

[Julie Goldman]

I mean, she is just, like, coming for her. I don't know. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, I feel like Garcelle also was so happy with, like, the Kyle thing.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And, like, almost like, when one of the cast members wants the. Like, they kind of don't want them to make up.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

They're, like, kind of happy, like. Yeah, well. Well, there you go. And also, I was like, why did they have to go all the way to Oceanside, like, just to be on the beach? You could have done that, like, in Malibu. You could have done it in Newport. Like, you had to go all the way to Oceanside. And then they went home. Home. Then they got on a plane. Did you remember that at the end? No. They took the little sprinter van and then got on a plane to come all the way home.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, God.

[Brandi Howard]

You can fly from San Diego.

[Heather McDonald]

You can. Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

And was it a normal size?

[Heather McDonald]

No, no, it was like a private.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, my God. That is absurd.

[Heather McDonald]

And then I also just think, like, if I was a housewife in one of the other franchises, I'd be like, I need to know, like, who picked up the plane.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I feel like, well, obviously, they're the queens of the franchise. Like, I mean, they are like, Beverly Hills is a cut above. You can tell the budget, but they triple everyone else. They get so Much more than the others.

[Brandi Howard]

You know, Potomac just announced last night that they're going to Panama for their girls trips. So I was just like, how much do people hate Beverly Hills? I mean, like you can just tell and all the little details. I'm like, the budget is just so much higher. They get all the money.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait. Also, just over the weekend, Teddy was at a horse show for a 12 year old daughter and her lover Simon was there with Simon's wife that was out in Palm Desert.

[Julie Goldman]

How are they all around each other?

[Heather McDonald]

Well, they're all part of the same thing. They all had their own. Either their daughter or their horses were competing, so they all had to be there for the equestrian and, you know.

[Brandi Howard]

So they stayed together. And I think the thing about that pregnancy thing I think she said was. Wasn't true.

[Heather McDonald]

What pregnancy? Was it Teddy's pregnancy?

[Brandi Howard]

No, the one that they were cheating while the woman was giving birth in labor. That's like a rumor everybody loves to do about everyone, but.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I mean, she was. She had a small child and it does overlap whether that, whether she was currently pregnant with it or. I mean, we'll never know. I mean, it just isn't good. No, it's just, it's a lazy affair. It's like I just, I have a problem with people that have affairs that are so lazy. Like a guy that fucks the nanny.

[Brandi Howard]

Yep.

[Heather McDonald]

The Megan Fox, you know, I am the doll. Don't fuck the doll, don't fuck the nanny. Like, don't do it at your school. Don't do the T ball.

[Brandi Howard]

I mean, do nanny. If it's Megan Fox.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

At that point, what choice do you want?

[Heather McDonald]

Also don't do it it when it involves your kids. Like, it's one thing to do it at your work and that's bad. But like, don't go. Like I said, be with a baseball coach. Be with the neighbor across the street. Like, just come on. Like. But you know, the heart wants what the heart wants and you know, there you go.

[Brandi Howard]

I can't believe that.

[Julie Goldman]

I can't.

[Heather McDonald]

I did say something snotty about Teddy too. She's like, yeah, it's not about Teddy though. She'd love. She loves that we're talking about her. Yeah, yeah, of course she does. Of course she does. How can you not? And then she was like. When Kyle was like, you, you're friends with Teddi. Why aren't you. When the audience were screaming, stop making Teddy happen. Why didn't you sit up? And then Dorit's like, teddy and I are friends. We're not best friends. We don't talk on the phone. We're acquaintances. That I totally get. There's many degrees of friends where you hang out when you're all together and you see each other maybe three times a year. And then there's texting friends, and then there's friends where you talk on the phone.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And if you don't talk on the phone, then you're not a really close friend.

[Brandi Howard]

And I also liked when Teddy's. I mean, ugh, when Dorit said, I didn't wanna give that guy any more tension, who asked the question? Which I thought was very valid too.

[Heather McDonald]

Right? That was totally valid. She knew if she gave an answer. I mean, you know, Kyle knows enough that everything's a landmine now. Like, she's like, you go on Amazon prime, they ask or whatever. Amazon, they ask you these questions. You know, it's gonna get huge. She thinks she's being classy in. You know, she's getting paid so much to do that, so she's gotta answer the questions. And the questions are about her castmates, and then she's gonna get shit for it later. But that is the job.

[Brandi Howard]

Like, but she's reaching. That's reaching. Like, you didn't defend Teddi. It's like, how much are you gonna pull from BravoCon? Like, first of all, I'm done. I don't wanna hear about Teddy, but I don't need to hear about BravoCon anymore for sure. Like, and every single thing. She has a problem with it with Dorit, and it's like, none of it is a big deal. It's stupid.

[Heather McDonald]

And Dorit. Dorit is coming from the side of. She is really hurt because she's like, I feel stupid. Which I've been in this position too. I thought our friendship was a bigger deal to you. It was a real big deal to me, but I guess I'm like a fool. It's almost like a girl who thinks she's the girlfriend and she realizes, oh, I'm one of three side pieces. Like. Like I'm disposable. Like, I thought. I thought, like, we were something more special. And Kyle. Kyle just doesn't talk to you for six months until the cameras come up again. You weren't special to Kyle. She doesn't care. She doesn't think about you. She doesn't miss you.

[Brandi Howard]

It was just a friendship for the show.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Her best friend was, unfortunately, the woman who passed. She has probably some. A couple other really good best friends. Like a fay Resnick and Teddy lurks.

[Brandi Howard]

On Kyle, and they keep in touch.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah, that's who those. I mean, how many people our age only have about three best friends that they actually talk on the phone on a regular basis with? So it's not Dorit. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Brandi Howard]

But you're eat's gonna take is, you know, gonna. Seems like Dorit's gonna take top the, you know, top dog. Deceiving.

[Julie Goldman]

She's ascending.

[Brandi Howard]

She's ascending.

[Julie Goldman]

She's ascending. Like the blue lady. She's ascending. She's completely ascending.

[Heather McDonald]

Got in trouble because she did a very flattering photo of herself with the pope, and the pope was kind of snuggling with her, and it was all fake.

[Brandi Howard]

What do you mean?

[Heather McDonald]

AI generated. It's not real.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

She made it and put it out there. It never happened. And it's just so old school Madonna, because Madonna, you know, it was so controversial when she would use her or Catholicism in a sexual way. And, you know, like, I remember, like, when she'd wear the rosary necklaces, and my nun at my school said, you know, that is very bad. And now I feel like a lot of people wear rosary necklaces. But she. She told me that is, like, sacrilegious. You are not to wear a rosary ever. And so, like, she would do all that, like a prayer, everything.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So, you know, because being a born born Catholic was a big, like, sort of like her flex and, like, using it and like, shoving in people's faces. So this was just old school Madonna trying to do. And she probably thought it was funny and whatever, but it just goes to show you, like, it is really hard to know what's real and what's really.

[Julie Goldman]

It really is, because that looks pretty real.

[Brandi Howard]

And he must have been nuzzling someone.

[Heather McDonald]

No. Or he knew anything. Now without.

[Brandi Howard]

Usually when they do it, it's like you look and you're like, oh, there's a hand. His ear is a hand or something.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, you know, like, Jim Carrey recently did an interview about how maybe he would do another cringe, but the reason he never wanted to do it until now is because much like the Wayne's brothers and white chicks, the hours of makeup, the prosthetics, the uncomfortable, the hot, like, it's just hell. And. But now with, like, the CGI and everything, like, even when I was watching the sitcom taping, they were like, oh, here's a scene. You're gonna watch playback. It's gonna be when they're young, but when you see it on Netflix, they're gonna be able to make both the actors faces.

[Brandi Howard]

I know. That's how creepy when they.

[Heather McDonald]

So they don't have to hire two new people to play them young. So weird and so like you. I wonder if he was to do the Grinch, you know, you'd have the essence of Jim Carrey. But he wouldn't have to be in three hours of makeup and be hot and wear the fur jacket, whatever. And so. Yeah, I mean they're able to do anything now. And same with white chicks. Like I wonder if they could do a white chick too and now not have to be in the masks.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, white chicks too. Karens. Yeah. And have them be like older.

[Heather McDonald]

They don't have to do. They as actors wouldn't have to suffer.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

They just computerized them.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Or maybe they just put like a nude thing on and then it comes on the face. But it moves with your cadence and your funny.

[Brandi Howard]

Because if they make your face green, that becomes like a green screen.

[Julie Goldman]

That is so weird.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

And the new Indiana Jones, they do the whole thing with him where he's like young. Young.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

But it's him. And they do that to his face. And it's such a trip they did.

[Brandi Howard]

To Will Smith and one of the.

[Heather McDonald]

Irishman a few years ago. Oh, oh right, the gangster movie. Yeah. And they like made them young Robert De Niro, like instead of hiring people playing. I always thought that's kind of a bummer. Cause I always thought that was always kind of a fun part of casting is like finding you you a 25 year younger version of you. Oh, another movie I just saw was it ends with us. I watched that last night. It's on Netflix. That was with the Blake Lively and all the controversy that it was portrayed to be this romantic movie but it's really about domestic violence Anyways. Very slow and not very good in my opinion. But I watched the whole thing and it was a confusing movie because even in it the guy. The domestic violence stuff that happened like the first two times they see they were kind of like accidental, like in a weird way. I don't know, it was just a weird. It was a weird movie. It's not very good. It's very slow.

[Brandi Howard]

She's so pretty.

[Heather McDonald]

But they had a girl play her, a young version of her.

[Brandi Howard]

And was she just as pretty?

[Heather McDonald]

Not as pretty, but it was a good match.

[Brandi Howard]

Cause I'd probably just put it on and then just put it on mute. Cause I just like to look at her. Yeah, but I don't really wanna Watch up.

[Heather McDonald]

But they gave her this weird green, this weird red hair that I didn't like, but she is pretty. All right, girls, what is happening in your world where people can get more Brandy and Julie in their lives?

[Brandi Howard]

You do it, mama. She likes when you do it better.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, God, you're so sensitive. I. Don't you guys know? Brandi is a little sensitive girl. She's a Timmy.

[Brandi Howard]

I have a heart. Outer shell, but inside, I have a big heart.

[Julie Goldman]

She loves too hurt.

[Heather McDonald]

She doesn't seem like it, but she does. She gets hurt easily by her own love.

[Julie Goldman]

So we have our regular podcast, Dumb Gay Podcast, which is sort of like, if you want to get your political. You're political on, especially now. That's where you visit. That's free. We lean liberal, but we try and give it to everybody. And then after that, if you don't like politics, you go to our Patreon. We do three shows a week, and that is just all. I mean, we're doing taste testing, we're doing reviewing. We're doing wrong side of the takes right now. We're doing this thing called the Butch Laurette, where we're doing. We have a single butch lesbian who literally is going on zoom dates.

[Brandi Howard]

She's a butcher.

[Heather McDonald]

You found her? Yep.

[Brandi Howard]

She was in, you know, one of our Patreon, like, in our Patreon family. Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

How fun. I love it. Has she had any luck? We.

[Brandi Howard]

Well, we're on. We just. She just did all her dates. We did the intro videos. They made their own videos.

[Heather McDonald]

What if you really find her, like, her wife? Then you'll be responsible for your life of, like, I know.

[Julie Goldman]

We. Changing people's lives.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And one lesbian at a time.

[Brandi Howard]

We do get married. If she marries any of them. We are definitely going to marry them. I can tell you that. We will insist.

[Julie Goldman]

It's definitely, like, be. It's exceeded all of our expectations.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, have you married anybody yet?

[Brandi Howard]

We did get asked.

[Julie Goldman]

We did get asked once, and then we didn't do it.

[Brandi Howard]

We just didn't follow through.

[Heather McDonald]

We didn't get your certificate or you did get.

[Brandi Howard]

We got our certificate. But then.

[Heather McDonald]

By the Universal Church.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes, I love it, too.

[Brandi Howard]

But then did we ever. Did it come in the mail because Julie wanted to get, like, those things.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. If we were gonna do it, I wanted to, like, wear a robe. I wanted the sash. You know what I mean? All of it. I wanted to do all of it.

[Brandi Howard]

The butchlerette's going good, and there was some strong chemistry happening.

[Julie Goldman]

There was Some strong chemistry happening. So we feel pretty good about it.

[Brandi Howard]

She went on all the dates and now, you know, this coming week we do that on Fridays. She's gonna go on her final two fantasy zooms. So we're gonna get a little spicy and then she'll do her choice.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh my God, this is awesome. Have fun.

[Julie Goldman]

This is pretty fun. So that's on the patreon and you can go to julianbrandy.com to check it out.

[Brandi Howard]

And you don't have to be gay to enjoy the butcher at because not at all love us.

[Julie Goldman]

And by the way, the great thing about the butcheret is that we have a guy that submitted and we have a straight girl that submitted who just are looking for like a friend. They were just. We're looking for something. So it's like all inclusive. It's become like this thing.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I love it. I think that's really clever. And then of course we're going to be hanging out, looking cute, going to cute holiday pre Christmas post Christmas dinners in the desert.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, and Palm Springs and the desert are so fun around Christmas. I think.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, we're going to have lots of fun.

[Julie Goldman]

Can't wait.

[Heather McDonald]

And of course go to heathermcdonald.net for my February east coast dates and of course my Patreon, which I'll be dropping lots during the holiday. Mini episodes, special episodes, videos. We're doing lots of different things for the holiday treat to make my Patreon people feel that much, that much more special than they already are. But they really are. Thank you.

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[Heather McDonald]

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