Heather McDonald (2:53)

Can we also if you're in the mood which sounds like you might be my restoration hardware white couches. I don't Know what they said? I've heard I could have someone come over from Restoration. I've heard you gotta do a third bleach, a third water, and it all comes up. I don't know what to do, but it's like bumming me out. So.

Julie Goldman (3:16)

Yeah, we can troubleshoot that.

Heather McDonald (3:18)

We can talk all about it. Sounds like a fun time. You're like, Heather, I thought we were gonna have, like a sexy. First of all, I want to say something very exciting. We are part of Netflix's joke. The show sold out in less than 24 hours.

Brandi Glanville (3:33)

That is absolutely amazing.

Heather McDonald (3:36)

And it's because Brandi and Julie are with me and the fabulous Chris Frangella, and we are doing a live juicy scoop. So, so excited. And I want to thank everybody for jumping on it, using the code, getting everything early. And we're. It's gonna be a blast.

Brandi Glanville (3:53)

I mean, local in la. So exciting with all the heavy hitters.

Heather McDonald (3:58)

Let me have you. Have you here and put you on the spot.

Brandi Glanville (4:00)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (4:00)

Do you want to maybe get a hotel room after?

Brandi Glanville (4:05)

Yes.

Heather McDonald (4:06)

And do a recap sleepover. Oh, like we. Everyone loved that from Vegas. And then that'll be our, like, Tuesday show. Because this is not for public consumption unless you're sitting in a city.

Brandi Glanville (4:18)

Only if that room is at the Chateau Marmont. And we almost die. Why would we almost die from all of the drinking we would do?

Heather McDonald (4:28)

Okay, I think Peter found a deal somewhere else.

Julie Goldman (4:31)

Or we could do the Roosevelt. Roosevelt's fun, too.

Heather McDonald (4:34)

Hey, if one of the. Hey, if one of you hoteliers are listening to this and you want to reach out.

Brandi Glanville (4:39)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (4:40)

We would like to do a post mortem live juicy scoop towel from the bed.

Brandi Glanville (4:45)

Yes.

Julie Goldman (4:46)

Cut to the standard hotel that Peter got us. Or downtown. We're like, why are we driving downtown?

Heather McDonald (4:53)

It'll be close to the Avalon. We don't know what we're going to do, people. The point is it's May 9th. It's all about it. 7:00pm, sold out. Also, I will be at Wise Guys doing standup. That's in Salt Lake City and that is in March. And they just put it on their website. And I will have it on my website@heathermcdonald.net so check that out.

Julie Goldman (5:15)

Let's say we would be there too. Drinking dirty Cokes with mom talking. However, we're gonna be in Minneapolis.

Heather McDonald (5:22)

I know I did invite you guys. Yes.

Brandi Glanville (5:24)

We would have gone in a second, but unfortunately we'll be in Minneapolis, Minnesota, doing Nightmare on Strip street and living in a nightmare.

Heather McDonald (5:34)

Appropriate, hopefully.

Brandi Glanville (5:35)

Yeah, exactly. But by then, hopefully the nightmare is not. Hopefully Joy Ish.

Heather McDonald (5:40)

It'll be fun. And they need some fun. Okay, so speaking of selling out and who didn't? Meghan Markle and Harry. They are at Sundance and they have. She has something to do. She's executive producer of a documentary, which I'm sure is a delightful documentary. It's called Cookie Queen and it's about Girl Scouts selling cookies. So, you know, Megan's always quick to jump on the fact that she's had 18 jobs before she turned 12. And this was one of them. I guess she sold the cookies and so she's part of it. And, you know, they're. They're always the talk of the town when they're there. Were they, you know, hanging out with each other? What's going on? What is she going to do next? And. But they did not sell out their show. They had over 150 seats left.

Julie Goldman (6:27)

Not like us.

Heather McDonald (6:28)

Not like us.

Julie Goldman (6:29)

Now, I will say for those of us who are la, you know, even adjacent, born and bred, or even have lived here like Julie now for like 20 years, you really do the Girl Scout game in L. A. The Girl Scout cookie game. It is. These people, like, they practically work on Wall Street.

Heather McDonald (6:50)

It's. There's.

Julie Goldman (6:51)

They're selling crypto.

Heather McDonald (6:52)

They. The Girl Scout, little Girl Scouts. When my sons were in school, some mom finally figured it out and she targeted all the boy moms. First got and went and they were knocking on the door and every boy mom was hit up because there was no competition. And they were like, what cookies do you want? They knew when the boys would be home so that the boys could then choose all their cookies. And that was really smart. They also knew to start going outside of dispensaries.

Julie Goldman (7:21)

Dispensaries. That's the new one.

Heather McDonald (7:23)

Which is a great idea.

Julie Goldman (7:25)

Fantastic.

Heather McDonald (7:25)

They were doing really well with that.

Brandi Glanville (7:27)

Oh, my God.

Heather McDonald (7:29)

It's all. It's all brilliant. It's all brilliant marketing.

Julie Goldman (7:32)

My accountant sells them to me. I'm like, I've already got. I've got a roster of girls I'm buying from. I can't help you. But, I mean, I am mentoring, which that already sounds problematic, but a girl who's been in Girl Scouts the whole time, since Brownies and Pixies, she's a Girl Scout and she's a senior, which you know you hate by the time you're a senior, you're like, your mom is forcing you at that point. But they went to the White House when she was a sophomore. They went to Paris last year. Now, as a senior, this gives you, like, a huge scholarship. So she, like, asks you.

Heather McDonald (8:05)

It's like an Eagle Scout, but a girl.

Julie Goldman (8:06)

Yeah. And so she's like, mentor me. And I'm like, okay. And I'm always. Every year, just like, I want to just give them money and not take the Girl Scouts cookies.

Heather McDonald (8:14)

The cookies are hard. And, you know, some of these sales girls know what to do. They'll be like, can. Can I get you on your last order from last year? And would you like a half dozen or a dozen boxes? And you're like, oh, I'll take a dozen cookies. A dozen boxes. That's some really good sales moves, you know?

Brandi Glanville (8:30)

That is good.

Julie Goldman (8:31)

It is.

Heather McDonald (8:31)

It's really good.

Brandi Glanville (8:32)

They get me when I see the. The moms or dads don't. And don't just stop with a dad and his little daughter that'll make me buy some cookies. But the. When I go outside the supermarket and the moms are there with those little girls, and I'm just like, fine, because you're so proud of your daughter, I'll buy some cookies. Like, you can't help it.

Heather McDonald (8:53)

It's all to see them.

Julie Goldman (8:54)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (8:55)

So I think it's great. I'm sure the doc is fun and great. I don't mean to be snarky. I just wanted brag about myself.

Julie Goldman (9:00)

And I wonder if it didn't sell out just because it's Sundance we're doing Lisa Barlow or Vita Tequila.

Heather McDonald (9:06)

I mean, I just. I just think people have, you know, they can go to a few movies, and. And that's maybe not the juiciest one to go see. So one, like. So you're gonna go to see someone else's. That's all. I just don't think people are that excited to see them as famous people. Like, they were. That's what I think it is. I don't think, like, people really dislike them. I just think it's not so special anymore for the prince and princess to be walking among us. It's just. It isn't so. It's like, oh, cool, you did a movie, too. Well, I'm gonna go to this one down the road and, like. Good for you, Meg.

Julie Goldman (9:38)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (9:38)

Tell H I said hi. I just don't think it's, like, Yeah, I just don't think it's, like, a big scoop anymore. Like, I don't think anyone cares.

Brandi Glanville (9:44)

No.

Julie Goldman (9:44)

And when Archie is, you know, giving them a Brooklyn Beckham, you know, scenario, we'll all be checked back in.

Heather McDonald (9:52)

Exactly.

Julie Goldman (9:53)

You know, that's when it's gonna get juicy.

Heather McDonald (9:55)

Or if we find out that actually it was Lilibet who filmed the Girl Scout cookie. Because remember that happened last week where they were seen dancing around at a park, her and H. And it was because Lilibet took the phone. She's four.

Brandi Glanville (10:11)

And then we're.

Heather McDonald (10:12)

And then filmed it on the phone. And then Megan was like, lilibet, you little voyeur.

Brandi Glanville (10:18)

And then posted it. And then she posted it.

Julie Goldman (10:21)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (10:21)

Then she posted. Was like, look at my little sneaky poo. She's the videographer at 4. Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (10:28)

And that's why nobody.

Heather McDonald (10:29)

That's definitely what happened.

Brandi Glanville (10:30)

Yeah. And that's why nobody went to see them at Sundance.

Julie Goldman (10:32)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (10:34)

Okay. As you know, this whole Justin Baldoni vs Blake Lively and the Taylor Swift of it all, they have been releasing these text messages between Blake and Taylor, and they're doing a little at a time. It's like the Epstein files or like, whatever. It's just like. I don't. They're saving them. They're just all of a sudden. And then an article comes out and there's more. There's just so much to go over. But obviously, yeah, Taylor's not loving this. She had to do it. She was subpoenaed, and she had to, you know, relinquish these text messages with her best girlfriend. And some would argue, like, whatever. It's two friends venting. Your friend is on a movie set, Blake telling you that the director is, like, a total fucking dork and so annoying and, like, has a man bun and acts like a feminist. And. And Taylor's being a supportive friend. That's one way to look at. The other way is, oh, my God, we now have an insight into two blonde mean girls that are. What is wrong with middle school people that don't grow up? So that's where we're at.

Brandi Glanville (11:42)

If somebody got my phone and looked at just our conversations or any friends.

Heather McDonald (11:50)

Conversations don't involve Heather.

Brandi Glanville (11:53)

Like, we have other group.

Julie Goldman (11:54)

I will say we have other group chats where with. And it would be involving a guy, not you, Heather, where he'll come in with some rogue comment where I'm like, great, now I'm involved. And I didn't say that. And it's too far.

Brandi Glanville (12:08)

Well, I do that. I'm the one who does that.

Julie Goldman (12:11)

No, but who goes too far in.

Heather McDonald (12:12)

A tax 1 million percent.

Brandi Glanville (12:14)

Because I feel like it's somehow some safe space where I can do all my comedy. And then I go, like, really far, because I think it's safe between people who.

Heather McDonald (12:22)

So the quest. So is Taylor being your best girly who's like, yes. Yeah, you're having a bad day. I'm totally on your back, girl. Like, yes, he is annoying. What do you need me to do? What do you need me to do? Did Taylor think this would end up two years later to be the. One of the biggest Hollywood lawsuits and that Taylor is being accused of high. Sorry. Blake is being accused of. Accused of hijacking the. The show and then. And her accusations of sexual harassment and all that are completely false? No, but she did keep her distance when this all came about. They haven't been photographed for a long time together. Are they still friends? Obviously, this is. This is bad. It's. It's very stressful to think that you.

Brandi Glanville (13:10)

Need to double down on it, though. I would think rather than if it were me. I mean, you just have to be. You just own it. You just have to own it. I would think as Taylor.

Heather McDonald (13:18)

So what would you do as Taylor? So far, she's just been silent. She did what she had to do legally. She was cooperative. But.

Julie Goldman (13:25)

Well, we believe that she canceled. Was about Blake Lively, the song.

Heather McDonald (13:31)

Yes.

Julie Goldman (13:31)

So I thought that was her first, like, dipping her toe into, like, I'm not mad at her. And that was just my opinion from listening to the song 9,000 times. Julia and I listened to that album front to back, like, a bunch of times.

Heather McDonald (13:43)

Does she have, like, a. A tour coming out or anything soon?

Julie Goldman (13:46)

Or is she doing, like, her wedding?

Heather McDonald (13:49)

This is what needs to happen.

Julie Goldman (13:50)

Okay?

Heather McDonald (13:51)

She needs to fuck Travis. She needs to then put pillows under her pelvis and lift up her legs and do that for 30 minutes and hope to get pregnant. Because nothing stops hatred and cancellation quicker than a girl in love who's pregnant.

Julie Goldman (14:09)

Shout out, Stassi.

Heather McDonald (14:10)

Shout out to Stassi. So you're already engaged. You're in your early or mid-30s. So time's a ticking. And this just takes away from it all.

Brandi Glanville (14:22)

It's so true.

Heather McDonald (14:23)

Once you get pregnant, once you get Craig everyone or have the surprise wedding, just do that, never mention this, and then it's fine. You'll still be the biggest music star ever. The other stuff that's now being kind of examined is the Scooter Braun of it all. Like, now that people. Now people are really investigating going, was Scooter Braun a total villain or did he. He was like, part of a company that she had already sold. Like, no, she'd already, like, okay, when she signed this, how I'm understanding And I'm probably getting wrong. She signs with this record label. Part of that contract is they could. They own the stuff and they could take it. That company gets bought by somebody else that then he is a part of. So then he had the rights. He really didn't do anything wrong. And her own dad benefited and got like $15 million from that sale. But then some people believe she came out all victimy, being like, oh, my God, this man took my music. So now I'm gonna redo all my songs and release them my own way because I have no rights to these songs. F you, Scooter Braun. And now people are like, really looking at the course, the events of it, and they're like, maybe Scooter Braun. Scooter Braun actually did nothing wrong.

Julie Goldman (15:40)

He did, though. He's a piece of shit. Okay, yeah, 100%.

Heather McDonald (15:43)

I'm not saying I know what's going on. I'm saying what I'm saying.

Julie Goldman (15:46)

There's a documentary.

Heather McDonald (15:47)

And by hood, I mean TikTok.

Julie Goldman (15:48)

Yeah, there's a documentary. The issue with going on right now is that Taylor Swift had a backlash because of the Blake Lively thing. Then she came out with Life of a Showgirl, which nobody was feeling except for basically Julie and I and approximately three other people.

Brandi Glanville (16:01)

Love it.

Julie Goldman (16:02)

We like it a lot.

Brandi Glanville (16:03)

Oh, every song except one.

Julie Goldman (16:05)

And people were just ready to take her down the level that people went in on the album and were, like, reading into lyrics and making them into problematic lyrics and all this stuff. She was just. She. She got overexposed. We were tired of a 17 year tour that never ended. I mean, Julie and I went through. And you went through a very sort of dark period personally with, like, our personal relationships and friendships. And two years later, the bitch was still on tour. I was like, when is this gonna go? It's like every time you go to a new city, I'm triggered into, like, these problems I went through in 2023. So she never ended that damn tour. And then right after she releases this album, which, you know, a lot of people didn't like, and then she gets engaged and it's just like, all right, already, like, go off and, like, live in, like, you know, Turks and Caicos for six months and lay on the beach with your.

Heather McDonald (16:58)

With your pregnant belly.

Julie Goldman (16:59)

Yes. And I think that would be good. I think she's overexposed.

Heather McDonald (17:03)

And then a whole nother album could kind of be.

Brandi Glanville (17:06)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (17:06)

About pregnancy, motherhood and pregnancy without actually saying it. And then everyone could relate to it because either you are a mother or you're a daughter. You're either one or the other.

Julie Goldman (17:18)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (17:18)

So you've got to relate to that.

Julie Goldman (17:20)

That's right.

Heather McDonald (17:21)

Either you've given birth or you've been birthed.

Brandi Glanville (17:23)

That's right.

Heather McDonald (17:23)

Everyone can relate.

Brandi Glanville (17:24)

And you know, it'll start with like, I've been waiting for you my whole life, my love of my life. You know what I mean?

Julie Goldman (17:32)

Well, what that reminds me of.

Heather McDonald (17:34)

And also thump, thump, thump. Actually that means the heartbeat. The first time she went for an ultrasound and heard a heartbeat.

Brandi Glanville (17:41)

Yeah. And that's what the song's called.

Heather McDonald (17:43)

Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (17:43)

Heartbeat.

Julie Goldman (17:44)

The way you guys are in your head voice does remind me of when Britney Spears did the reality show Chaotic or whatever with Kevin Federline and everyone was like, huh? It's a slightly uncomfortable and unsafe and distasteful. Then she got pregnant and then did the song at the, at the piano in the white flowing thing to the baby, which sounded much like thump, thump.

Brandi Glanville (18:09)

Thump, Harpy, you are my heartbeat.

Heather McDonald (18:12)

Do you know how mad I am that I was not at this level of standup while I was pregnant? Because the amount of female comedians are literally waiting to do their specials. Why they're seven months plus pregnant. Like now. If you're a female and you're a mother and you do a standup special and you're not not visibly pregnant, they're like, ew, what's wrong with you? Why of course. And I'm like. But I was like, I actually did it. Like I did it. I just wasn't like didn't have special at the time.

Julie Goldman (18:41)

You could wear a fake belly.

Brandi Glanville (18:42)

You could.

Heather McDonald (18:43)

That's going to be, it's going to be make it up for Lost Thirst.

Julie Goldman (18:47)

Moments and go back and do all the old welcome to making up for.

Heather McDonald (18:50)

Lost Thirst Moments tour.

Julie Goldman (18:55)

Pregnancy era.

Heather McDonald (18:56)

It's manifest. Mama is going to be the tour.

Julie Goldman (18:58)

And you still be pregnant for that.

Heather McDonald (18:59)

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Julie Goldman (23:33)

You do it.

Heather McDonald (23:33)

Matthew McConaughey worst movie ever. And I like when they went and saw Free Solo.

Julie Goldman (23:38)

Anyway, you have to put in worst movie ever so we can see if they.

Brandi Glanville (23:41)

Matthew McConaughey worst.

Julie Goldman (23:42)

Nobody knows how to spell McConaughey movie ever.

Heather McDonald (23:46)

But I will say this skyscraper thing. So for those that don't know, you don't need to see it because he lived. But the whole point was watch it live in case he falls off and dies. Yes, you will have seen it. He's 40 years old. He's obviously in incredible shape. He climbed the tallest building in the world. It's in like Singapore, Taiwan, I think something.

Julie Goldman (24:07)

It's unbelievable.

Brandi Glanville (24:09)

I wanna watch that.

Heather McDonald (24:09)

And so he's on metal climbing up metal. And then like, he has to.

Brandi Glanville (24:17)

He could.

Julie Goldman (24:17)

He. May I first say it rained? It was supposed to come on the night before or earlier in the day and it rained. So now the building's wet, it's metal and it's slick. So they're like, let's just wait for it to dry for three hours. So now you're going into it.

Heather McDonald (24:32)

So I'm watching it and I just did a quick little like Instagram reel and I just said, is this guy's mother alive? Because this is such a nightmare, I can't watch it. This is the most any mother of any child, but especially a boy that does risky shit. It is fucking terrifying to watch. Anyway, Inside Edition used my video and they just called me. One woman said, and I'm like, that's when you know that you haven't made it.

Brandi Glanville (25:00)

Well, that's the name of the.

Heather McDonald (25:01)

And they put my tiny little thing at Heather McDonald. But not comedian Heather McDonald. Oh, I follow Heather McDonald. That was funny. No, just. I'm just a woman that made a stupid comment.

Brandi Glanville (25:10)

But anyway, One Woman Said is the name of your next book.

Julie Goldman (25:13)

Can I say one woman said she's pregnant. Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (25:18)

Manifesting My pregnancy.

Julie Goldman (25:21)

I'm honestly more shocked and stunned and flabbergasted that you had nothing to do on a Saturday night.

Heather McDonald (25:29)

Well, I'm saving up for this weekend. Okay. And so anyway, he was. He just had, like, a little chalk in his back pocket, and so then he'd go on slick metal and just kept going up. And then he finally got to the top, top, tippy top, and climbed up there, and literally the circle was smaller than this coffee table that he was standing on. And just. And I'm like, I can't believe the wind couldn't just blow him off. He was standing there. No. No ties or anything. What do you. No rope. No nothing. It.

Brandi Glanville (25:59)

It.

Heather McDonald (25:59)

I'm. I have anxiety thinking about it.

Julie Goldman (26:01)

I need to watch it for that.

Heather McDonald (26:03)

I can't wait to climb on the metal. So it's like he had steps, but in between the steps, he had to make his own. He had to cling like a spider man. Yeah. In between with just these shoes. Then every fifth, like, break, he would then kind of clean off the shoe. He did it all in, like, an hour and a half. And then. Then he revealed how much he was paid. Oh.

Brandi Glanville (26:26)

How much was he paid?

Heather McDonald (26:27)

How much do you think? I'm gonna let you.

Brandi Glanville (26:28)

$100 million.

Heather McDonald (26:29)

Okay.

Julie Goldman (26:30)

I would say. I was gonna say 16 million, 500,000 total.

Heather McDonald (26:37)

One and done.

Brandi Glanville (26:38)

That's it?

Heather McDonald (26:39)

Yes.

Brandi Glanville (26:39)

500,000.

Heather McDonald (26:40)

500,000.

Brandi Glanville (26:42)

This is why he's an asshole. He is the biggest asshole.

Julie Goldman (26:45)

He'll do it for free.

Heather McDonald (26:46)

And he's married with two kids, by the way.

Brandi Glanville (26:47)

I know. The thing is, with that movie Free Solo. Yeah. Which is very. I enjoyed the movie. I think it's super interesting. And it's. If this stressed you. The whole thing is just stress, and. But the wa.

Heather McDonald (26:59)

Did we find the worst movie of Matthew McConaughey?

Brandi Glanville (27:02)

Well, according to Google. Yeah.

Heather McDonald (27:04)

Sorry.

Brandi Glanville (27:04)

Is it called Tiptoes?

Heather McDonald (27:06)

No.

Brandi Glanville (27:07)

Is it called Surfer Dude?

Julie Goldman (27:08)

No.

Brandi Glanville (27:09)

Is it called Sea of Trees?

Heather McDonald (27:11)

No.

Brandi Glanville (27:11)

What the fuck movie did you see? Is it called Dark Tower?

Heather McDonald (27:14)

No.

Brandi Glanville (27:15)

Is it called Serenity?

Heather McDonald (27:17)

Yes.

Brandi Glanville (27:18)

Noted for having one of the most absurd and confusing plot twists in Recent Memory Serenity 2019 film starring Matthew McConaughey as Baker Dill, a fishing boat captain in marriage Mauritius whose life is upended when his ex wife, Anne Hathaway asks him to murder her abusive new husband.

Heather McDonald (27:39)

You hear that tagline?

Brandi Glanville (27:40)

Yes.

Heather McDonald (27:41)

And you would think, Heather, leave Free Solo with your boring two sons and husband and go, Romney. Rub one out to Matthew McConaughey walking with a popcorn.

Julie Goldman (27:53)

Like, guys, I'm going to watch Matthew McConaughey kill Anne Hathaway's.

Heather McDonald (27:57)

I mean, murder. Ex wife, hot people by the sea.

Brandi Glanville (28:03)

Ooh, by the sea.

Julie Goldman (28:04)

I thought it was.

Heather McDonald (28:05)

It was going to be everything I wanted.

Brandi Glanville (28:09)

Baker Dill.

Heather McDonald (28:09)

And then basically at the end, it was like an episode of an old Twilight Zone where a kid is just, like, playing a game.

Brandi Glanville (28:15)

I.

Julie Goldman (28:16)

No, that's not allowed.

Heather McDonald (28:17)

And it was in his game. It was the worst. Okay, going back about Free Solo.

Brandi Glanville (28:21)

Why is it the thing again, you watching him climb mountain after mountain? Yeah, it's astounding. But the point of the movie really is what a ginormous asshole he is.

Julie Goldman (28:36)

And all of them are.

Brandi Glanville (28:37)

And every one of them, he has a girlfriend. He's the people he's around. He also, like, he's sort of like the head of a community of people who do this kind of climbing without any ropes. And so they're all kind of assholes.

Julie Goldman (28:52)

They all are because they're very arrogant. People around them are scared shitless. The mothers, the girlfriends, the wives, the kids. A lot of them have kids. He doesn't have kids yet. And Free Solo highly recommend it. It's way less stressful than that. When I saw him standing on top of the building and I just saw Walk Still. Yeah. I was like this. Anyone who watched that is a sociopath and, like, watching he should be put in jail because I was traumatized. But the movie is different because he's in these cliffs and mountains, but he basically gets this girlfriend and he's like eating beans in a. You know, he lives out of a.

Brandi Glanville (29:27)

Trailer, but it's like a whole lifestyle.

Julie Goldman (29:29)

He starts to. What I thought was fascinating is that he starts to train her to do it a little. She was already interested in it. She was kind of like a groupie who followed him on book tours.

Brandi Glanville (29:37)

Right.

Julie Goldman (29:38)

And they're still married. They get married in the thing, but when they first get together, she's a groupie and you're just kind of like, annoyed by her. But then she's learning with him. And when you first learn you're connected to each other. I guess these ropes. And she connects the ropes wrong, and he falls and he gets, like, a very serious injury. And in the middle of the movie, you're like, oh, great. He's not gonna be able to ever climb again. And then he's kind of resentful of her, but they make it through that. So their relationship and the journey of their relationship and him.

Heather McDonald (30:08)

And that's who his wife is now.

Julie Goldman (30:09)

Yeah. So that's interesting.

Heather McDonald (30:10)

Oh, my God. I can't even imagine. Like. Like, there is this really funny trend that I totally did on Peter that I saw these videos up where men are just, like, sitting, doing something. They're at their desk. They're in the kitchen. They're just, like, watching tv. And then the women, to fuck with them will just go in the garage and take a full ladder and just walk past them and go upstairs. And they're like, what the fuck are you doing?

Julie Goldman (30:33)

And so, like, that's so good for Peter.

Heather McDonald (30:35)

So I. I did not film it, but I totally did it. I took a change and I just have, like, what? He's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, don't worry about it. I cannot believe nothing made sense. A chainsaw, like, one glove, like a gripper. Like, all the. And I'm like, what? I know what I'm doing. He's like, wait. He's like, drake, what is she doing? He's like, I don't know what she's doing. I'm just like. With them, and it's the same thing. I'm like, if I did anything wrong like that, like, I didn't do something, like, in a where. Whenever. It's like, he's. Whenever he asked me to do any kind of help, I'm like, It's so triggering. Because my dad once I could drive, my dad would send me to Ace Hardware to get stuff. Oh, Julie has this story came back for. It would take four trips, and this is before I could take a photo or call him and go on FaceTime and go, hey, is this the right screw? Back and forth all the time. And there's always, like, 12 people working there for one customer. And I'd still get it wrong. And I'm like, I heard anything about that. I'm like, don't even ask me. Don't ask me to pick up this other end. I'm gonna do it wrong. So now he just traumatizes the boys. And if they ever are helping him and they have their hands in their pockets, he loses his fucking mind. He's like, get your hands out of your pockets. And they're like, what? I'm just standing here and tell them what to have drink. It's like, I'm like, what are you doing, Drake? He goes, just looking for pants with no pockets. Just so next time dad asks me to help him in the yard, I won't be accused of doing something wrong and disrespectful. I'm like, what is the problem? Like, ugh, no. But we're not raised construction workers. Leave us alone.

Brandi Glanville (32:13)

No shit. I have that same exact thing. And I would want to be with my dad so much. Like, I was wanting to be around him so much. And he was a surgeon, so at his off time, he would tinker with the car. He did woodworking. He was very creative and he did all this shit. So he'd be working on the car and like, hey, daddy, can I help you?

Heather McDonald (32:32)

And he's like, yeah, daddy, can I help you?

Brandi Glanville (32:34)

And he'd be like, yeah, give me the. I need the 4 quarter inch wrench that's in. I was like, okay.

Heather McDonald (32:42)

And I know I look like I.

Brandi Glanville (32:44)

Would know what that is, but I don't. And. And I would hand him something and the level, the man would lose his shit. Like, it was as if I had shoved it up his ass. Like, it was as if I had stuck, smashed the car window and driven over him and away and then got married. I mean, finally, after 25 years, I'm.

Heather McDonald (33:09)

Just like, I don't know. Don't ask me to do something I don't know. I'm really good at a lot of other fucking things. This isn't one of them. So don't ask me to help. That took me a long time to finally. That's good. I finally found my voice about a week ago.

Brandi Glanville (33:23)

Chapter two.

Julie Goldman (33:23)

Well, I'm with Peter. I'm like, can you act with urgency, please? Julie's like, do I do something? She doesn't go fast enough.

Brandi Glanville (33:30)

Randy's just like a husband, but okay.

Heather McDonald (33:32)

Well, speaking of the juicy shit here. The traitors. Okay, I talked a little bit about it a couple weeks ago. Colton, former bachelor, had 25 girlfriends, was secretly gay, got engaged. And we have been reminded that he was stalking that girlfriend once. She probably realized something was wrong and he hadn't come out yet. So instead he tortured her for about a year, tracked her, put a tracker in her car, sent horrible messages to her on a text. Also sent horrible messages to himself to kind of like, Jesse Smollett the situation and be a victim. And anyway, Then he's like, I'm gay. And everybody's like, oh, you're all forgiven. We love you. They gave him a bunch of shows. He's on Traders and he's pretty entertaining. On Traitors. He's pretty attractive. He's really leaned into being a gay guy now. Like, he like, dresses kind of fancily and like, he's like, you know. And there's a lot of gay people on this cast, so there's a lot of competition in like the outfits and stuff anyway, but did you stalk a girl?

Brandi Glanville (34:37)

Because I did. Yeah.

Heather McDonald (34:39)

Well, Lisa Rinna. Now here's the thing about the show. If you've never watched, let's.

Brandi Glanville (34:44)

Oh, great.

Heather McDonald (34:45)

They show us who the traitors are. So we're watching it.

Julie Goldman (34:49)

They don't know, so there's no spoilers.

Heather McDonald (34:51)

And Lisa Rinna, they made her a traitor, thank God, along with Candace and this other cutie named Ron from some other show. And so it's three traitors, everyone else's faithfuls, and then it's all trying to guess who should we kick out. And obviously they want to kick out a traitor.

Julie Goldman (35:07)

And I think the guy's name might be Rob.

Heather McDonald (35:10)

Rob. Okay, well, they've now they've kicked out only faithfuls or whatever.

Julie Goldman (35:13)

Yeah, always.

Heather McDonald (35:14)

So Colton is smart and he knows it's Lisa Rinna. And he's like, I think it's Lisa Rinna. And she's like. And so they kind of go at it and he. And he does this thing that to do to a reality star, I think, especially a housewife. She gets like sassy with him or something and he goes. And he turns real housewifey. He wants to be a housewife now. He's really leaned into this life of his. And he's like, oh, finally we see a little feistiness out of you. Finally we're getting something. Almost criticizing her for being boring. And she's like losing her mind. And she's like, oh, you want housewifery? I'll tell you something. I've been in this business for 36 years. I was Lisa's fucking Rena before Housewives, and I'm Lisa fucking Rinna after. So I got your number, Colton. And he's like, good, let's see it. Let's do a little something for the cameras. Dance, little lady, dance. And she's like losing her mind. So as the show airs, she takes to social media and she writes, let's talk about you being a stalker. And then, I mean, this has come out. She's not the one who brought this out, a lot of people reminded us all a couple weeks ago, but she.

Julie Goldman (36:40)

Clearly didn't remember when she was in the house.

Heather McDonald (36:42)

She didn't remember when she's in the house. She didn't do any research on this guy. And so now she sees everything and it's like, yeah, let's remember what a dickie was. Da, da. So then. And poor little Colton is home, you know, shaking in his boots every time he opens his phone because everyone's like, yeah, you were a sick fuck. Like, why did you make this girl's life a nightmare?

Julie Goldman (37:01)

Weirdo absolutely everywhere.

Heather McDonald (37:03)

So then he cries and then they make a big announcement, you know, with the. With the queen that runs the traitors. What's his name? He's so great.

Julie Goldman (37:12)

Alan Cummings.

Heather McDonald (37:12)

Alan Cummings. And it's like the photo of Alan Cummings and it's like, please, we don't. We don't condone cyberbullying. Leave our cast members alone. Stand down, little people, whatever, and then leave. And I are great nemesis. Like, please leave them alone. I'm like, you're the one that, like.

Julie Goldman (37:30)

Like, they wanted a housewife and I gave him a housewife. But remember when they did this, had to do this on Love island with Ariana. She had to come and say, please don't bully our cast and stop cyberbullying people in the cast. And like, it's crazy how these peacock, you know, ensemble shows are getting, like, the Internet is just ripping these people apart to the point where they have to go on and say, please leave them alone. This is just a game, right?

Heather McDonald (37:57)

It's just a game. But I mean, listen, this is what it is. I mean, we've talked about Jacques with Jacques. Jacques from Daily Mail, but also Australian. They've been doing this with Australian reality shows for years where they literally hijack their social media. They don't let them see it, don't let them. They hire someone to take care of it all and so that you don't see any hate and. But also at the same time, it's like, you gotta know this is gonna happen. But look, it's very hard not to look at now, Ron Funches, who's like, he's a great comedian. I knew him from his days on Chelsea. He's been on this show a long time ago.

Julie Goldman (38:34)

He's very lovely, sweet, like, very, very.

Heather McDonald (38:38)

Sweet, very soft spoken. He has a girlfriend and a baby and a son from a previous relationship who is. Who has autism and is severely autistic. And anyway, that's always been his thing. And he's always been super lovely and funny. So he like, everyone hated him on the show because he like pushed for Portia to get kicked out or whatever. And he's like, I know I'm going home. I know I'm going home to my wife and kids and I don't really care. And so, you know, of course Lisa Rinna is pushing for. For him because she just doesn't want the heat on her since she's a traitor. But at one point, Dorinda, he said, traitor. Star Ron Funches claims Dorinda Melody made truly terrible comments that were edited out. And I read the article, I don't know what she said, but he does not like her. He says she's not a nice person. And now he realizes because everyone commented on his behavior, that he too has autism.

Julie Goldman (39:37)

Was it self diagnosed?

Heather McDonald (39:39)

No. He said since people were watching and seeing that he thought he was communicating a certain way to the people and then they were like, not receiving him the way he wanted to be received. So he's like, oh. And then all the audience was like, I think you have autism. And so then he's like, I guess I do like a very different on the spectrum, but like, whatever. And she said something like, we're just trying to get to know you, Ron. And he, I don't know, took offense to that or something. And he's just like, you don't need to know me. Like, leave me alone. He just thought she was a bitch, but he didn't really say what her bitchiness was. Dorinda.

Julie Goldman (40:22)

And did he just say Dorinda can be really mean?

Heather McDonald (40:24)

And we all know that, but he did say she. Why don't you get a turkey baster, Kinsley? Why don't you get a turkey baster and stick it up your twat since you don't have. Can't have any babies of your own. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'd like a martini.

Julie Goldman (40:35)

Martini.

Heather McDonald (40:36)

I like nipples. Twos are good. Three is a problem.

Julie Goldman (40:42)

He said she said something specific, right? Not just that she was a.

Heather McDonald (40:46)

But when I read the article, there wasn't anything. Okay. There wasn't something.

Julie Goldman (40:50)

And it's not good to do that because we always assume the worst rather than. Not that anything is, you know, but it's really terrible.

Heather McDonald (40:58)

What are you saying? Did she say something right?

Julie Goldman (41:00)

Racist or, you know, or against your autistic child?

Heather McDonald (41:04)

Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (41:04)

Or is it possible for someone just to be a bitch?

Julie Goldman (41:10)

Yes, I'm one every day.

Brandi Glanville (41:11)

I know, I know.

Julie Goldman (41:12)

Oh, okay.

Brandi Glanville (41:12)

But I mean, not her with him. Like, is it possible that you're in a stressful situation? You might be a socially awkward person, you have anxiety, you're soft spoken, sweet person, and maybe it just wasn't vibing. I don't know. I don't. Why is everything on a spectrum?

Heather McDonald (41:31)

I think what it is is, like, here you are, you're faithful. Okay? So you're like, like I said, three are traitors and 12 are faithfuls. And then it just feels like the ultimate bullying moment. You're in this thing, you don't have a phone, you can't read. You have to do all these other things. And everyone's just like, we think it's you. We think you're lying. We think you're lying. We think you're a traitor. And you're like, I'm not lying. So then by the time you leave, you're like, I fucking hate these people. Then you come home and you're watching this thing. You're like, why did my agent talk me into doing this stupid thing? Like, now I'm just pissed that I.

Brandi Glanville (42:03)

Even get autistic, though.

Heather McDonald (42:04)

And now I'm autistic.

Julie Goldman (42:06)

I'm pissed and I'm autistic. This is autistic.

Brandi Glanville (42:09)

This is what I'm getting at. Yeah, you're pissedistic. Like, you went into the show and you left thinking you're autistic.

Julie Goldman (42:15)

You know what it is? It's traumatistic.

Brandi Glanville (42:17)

It's traumatistic. Like, that's what I'm trying to get at. Like. And that.

Heather McDonald (42:21)

That.

Brandi Glanville (42:21)

That is the thing about this game. It is a. This game is a game of bullying.

Julie Goldman (42:25)

Remember the first season with Kate Chastain and Brandi? First they kick Brandi Glanville off, or they kick. They kick Reza off. Now Kate Chastain's there alone, and they are hammering on Kate Chastain, and she is not to be trifled with. Like, that bitch is hardcore. And she sat there with them and she was just like, I'm not a traitor, and you're all idiots. And they'd already been wrong about Reza. And then Brandi, but then she started just being like, actually, why am I fighting to be here? This is like literal living in hell.

Heather McDonald (42:54)

Well, like, what Colton did is he goes into the room where it's Candace and Lisa Rinna, who are housewives, and they're both traitors. And he goes, I hope you murder me. I hope you murder me, because then everyone will know I was right, which is really smart. So now they're like, fuck, we can't murder this fucker because we're his target. So he'll be like, just so you guys know, if I die tonight, it's not any of you, because I didn't put my fingers at you. I put them at them. So it's pretty smart how he did that, which I'm sure people have done in the past. Whatever. I've watched it some seasons on, off in the Middle, but now I just caught. I just caught on to the latest because I'm like, I don't need to watch the old.

Julie Goldman (43:39)

Because I know you see Michael Rappaport close, eating his salad.

Heather McDonald (43:44)

He got the boot.

Brandi Glanville (43:45)

Well, then we would get that. We would go into that house and leave with I don't know how many different diseases then. Because I would do.

Heather McDonald (43:51)

I would love to do Traitors, and I would like to do Mass Singer. Those are the two I'd like to.

Brandi Glanville (43:55)

You definitely should do both of those.

Heather McDonald (43:56)

Would you? Would you?

Julie Goldman (43:57)

We already decided. Let's give them something. That's what we really want to be.

Brandi Glanville (44:01)

What do you want your character to be, though, dressed as, like. Are you like, a peacock or a cute bunny?

Heather McDonald (44:07)

I would just take whatever that. I mean, they're running out of things. I don't know what would. Would signify. Gummy Bay, An Irish clover?

Julie Goldman (44:15)

A.

Heather McDonald (44:17)

A leprechaun. I don't know what I am. I'm kind of nothing.

Julie Goldman (44:21)

Like, I'm imagining something like that has gold things that come up. Like, maybe you're like a seahorse or.

Heather McDonald (44:26)

Yeah, like a seahorse or like a daisy or something. I don't know. And then. That's cute. Yeah, we'll see.

Brandi Glanville (44:32)

What was the other show? Oh, this show?

Heather McDonald (44:34)

This one. Would you be a sentimentally on the show? Oh, yeah.

Brandi Glanville (44:37)

Okay.

Julie Goldman (44:38)

She's a sociopath who watched the climbing of the guy up the side of the building.

Heather McDonald (44:41)

Also, I don't think I'd be. I don't think I would be, like, overly upset if they kicked me out and I wasn't a traitor.

Brandi Glanville (44:49)

No.

Heather McDonald (44:49)

And I was like, okay, you guys were wrong. Like, why would I. Why would that make me so bad? Like, I'd be like, whatever.

Brandi Glanville (44:55)

It just.

Heather McDonald (44:56)

I'm just gonna go home now. Like, I mean, I guess if you're like, my God, if you're gonna, like, lose your house unless you get 250, then sure, I guess the stakes are higher. But for me, I'd be like, I just can't believe someone had me be on this show. I think I've got nothing to lose.

Julie Goldman (45:09)

I'm in the corner all like and like looking and you're like, you. I'm not a traitor. Losers. But then what if you are? Like, I wouldn't even want to be a traitor because that's when now you're really just.

Heather McDonald (45:21)

I don't know, what can they say about you? That you're a liar? Like, who cares?

Julie Goldman (45:25)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (45:26)

Like, I don't know. It's like. Yeah, it's not like they want to get rid of me because, you know, they're saying something that's not like true or whatever. And they like, they don't sleep in the castle or anything.

Julie Goldman (45:36)

No.

Brandi Glanville (45:37)

So I would just get triggered by the way someone's looking at me.

Heather McDonald (45:40)

Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (45:41)

Like, why are you looking at me like that?

Julie Goldman (45:42)

Would you want to be a traitor or be regular faithful?

Heather McDonald (45:46)

No, I'd rather be the traitor.

Brandi Glanville (45:47)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (45:48)

Otherwise I don't think it's that fun. And they say you're not doing any trickery or anything. Like, I don't even get it. You're just trying, I guess you're trying to figure out who's a liar or whatever. But no. Okay, so we were all rooting for you. Yes, we were. Because Netflix is doing a documentary on another thing that we've all lived through and it won't be that exciting. And that is America's Next Top Model. And Tower Banks is part of it. Probably because she wants to say, like, yeah, I was a fucking bitch, but you guys all watched it, so leave me the fuck alone. It's another one of those horrible reality shows along with like Biggest Loser. The Swan.

Brandi Glanville (46:26)

The swan. I wish they brought the swan.

Heather McDonald (46:28)

When you think you're hot with, with Lorenzo Lamas would do a, would do a thing and go look at that pointer.

Brandi Glanville (46:35)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (46:36)

Over there. And like what they thought was like a plus sized person was like a size 6 in front of like a.

Brandi Glanville (46:40)

Live audience, like on a stage.

Julie Goldman (46:42)

Have you seen the trailer for this? Because it point blank it it in, in the trailer alone, they're like, okay, you guys, you're gonna switch races and then you show. They show like Jay or what are there because there's Jay and then they're both named Jay, but both of them are like this, right? Oh, God. And then, then they even show Tyra Banks even so many times just being like, yeah, I mean, I was horrible, but you guys wanted it. And she said exact what you said. Like she says, I was awful. I pushed it too far. I was being pushed. And, and everybody wanted it. And the Stakes just raised and raised. People are like, in the hospital.

Heather McDonald (47:18)

We had her whole crew come on to Chelsea lately because they all of a sudden moved to New York. And so the crew was like. And she literally, like, they found out like that day. They were like driving a lot. They're like, oh, by the way, the show, like, moved to New York and they're like, what? So we got like her makeup artist and stuff. And they said she was so cheap. Cheap that like, their bonuses were five dollar gift cards to like itunes.

Brandi Glanville (47:41)

Oh, allegedly.

Heather McDonald (47:44)

That's what I was told. Oh, that was their Christmas bonus.

Julie Goldman (47:46)

That is one thing I would not. I would remember people going around show.

Heather McDonald (47:50)

About being cheap and stuff. It's all true. I didn't want them to be cheap and to be thrifty and get like a deal. And then there's another that where you, like, are. Are a bad tipper. It's two different things.

Julie Goldman (48:01)

Two different things.

Brandi Glanville (48:02)

And that's why, again, not to go back to Taylor Swift. Swift while she. She what? She gave that money to her people.

Heather McDonald (48:10)

To me, that was.

Brandi Glanville (48:11)

I don't care what she's texting. She can do.

Heather McDonald (48:14)

She's like, for me, she understands the sacrifice. She understands that it's a timely thing. You're a dancer on a tour. Like, you're giving up so much. You're not gonna be able to do this for the next 30 years. Like, it's hard on your body.

Julie Goldman (48:24)

She's a huge tipper in restaurants too. They'll take a picture of the. Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (48:27)

And to the. To the truck driver and to the. She just understood what people. I just thought. I just thought, like, that's it. I'm good with you.

Julie Goldman (48:34)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (48:35)

And then that's what she's trying to be a good friend of Blake. Look how that paid out.

Brandi Glanville (48:38)

Exactly.

Julie Goldman (48:38)

Well, I'd a hundred percent rather somebody say. I'd rather someone say she's a bitch or she was drunk, which always does happen. Both of those things than like, oh.

Heather McDonald (48:48)

She'S not always talking about you.

Julie Goldman (48:49)

She's cheap. She's cheap. Or she's a bad tipper. I would just hate that that's gonna come out in this documentary. That she's like, cheap.

Heather McDonald (48:58)

No, I don't know that it will. I was telling you a tidbit. Some juicy scoop life. But anyway, we'll. We'll see. I mean. Oh, but that. But you know the other girl that also. Adrienne Curry. She went on to do a bunch of shows. Surreal life. She married Peter Brady from the Brady Bunch. Got Divorced from him. Now she just does pretty interesting Instagram stuff. Letting her hair go gray. She lives on like some farm or something.

Julie Goldman (49:28)

She lives in Montana.

Heather McDonald (49:29)

She said, I'm not part of it. They asked me and I was like, no way.

Julie Goldman (49:33)

That's too bad.

Heather McDonald (49:33)

I feel like, why not? Like, you're not living a private life like you. Why? I mean, that's dumb. If you were my friend in Montana, I'd be like, go do it. You're trying to get followers. You'll get a couple hundred thousand just from people being reminded that you're like a cool, interesting person. Yeah, I did. That is such a cut off your nose, bite your face kind of thing. Like, oh, I don't need it. You're not gonna pay me. Whether you're a housewife or whatever, when they ask you to go to something, go to it.

Brandi Glanville (50:01)

Yep.

Julie Goldman (50:01)

Like, and tell your story.

Heather McDonald (50:03)

Yeah.

Julie Goldman (50:04)

I mean, I wonder if Eva Marcel from Housewives, she was a big one too.

Brandi Glanville (50:08)

Who won.

Heather McDonald (50:09)

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Julie Goldman (53:36)

Yeah. I don't know.

Heather McDonald (53:38)

Jumping five years in the future.

Julie Goldman (53:39)

They have to.

Heather McDonald (53:40)

Yeah, they have to because it's been so long.

Julie Goldman (53:42)

I thought Jeff Bezos was a. Was an investor in this.

Heather McDonald (53:45)

Yes. And so it's lingerie, you know, And I'm sorry, but, like, you're not gonna look like her.

Brandi Glanville (53:55)

Nope.

Heather McDonald (53:56)

In it.

Julie Goldman (53:56)

The bras in the video looked a little bit matronly to me, but she.

Heather McDonald (54:00)

Has such big boobs.

Julie Goldman (54:01)

Yeah. It was like big cups.

Heather McDonald (54:03)

She's been the face of so many different ads and stuff, but I guess this is this one than she owns. And I don't blame her. You know, it's like, you know what? You got to make the money while you make it. But I feel like if you're trying to. I don't know. I think it's like one of those things where you should establish, like, a little bit more in the acting world before you do 29,000 products. But whatever. Who am I to talk about those titties are titting. All right. Real Housewives of Potomac, they are showing, I guess, as a preview for next week. Right. They pick up Karen from the prison, and she, you know, Was able to have somebody do her braids. And she is walking out way more lesbian.

Julie Goldman (54:46)

Yes.

Brandi Glanville (54:46)

Like no one does when they leave prison.

Heather McDonald (54:48)

Walk was like, she had a blazer, she had big ass jeans.

Julie Goldman (54:53)

She hit off heels.

Heather McDonald (54:54)

But just the walk, the.

Brandi Glanville (54:56)

The hard walk.

Heather McDonald (54:57)

The hard walk said, you know what?

Brandi Glanville (55:00)

Don't fuck with me.

Julie Goldman (55:01)

I've been getting some massages upstairs and downstairs.

Heather McDonald (55:04)

And then the question was, where is Ray? And whatever.

Julie Goldman (55:08)

Can I ask you, did you. I never saw. And I did look. I never saw photos of her leaving the prison.

Heather McDonald (55:15)

No, I don't. I. She gets in the car with the cameras, takes off her sunglasses, and she has lashes. So there was. I think this is like a reenactment because how did she get her lashes?

Brandi Glanville (55:28)

But also.

Heather McDonald (55:29)

And a full makeup. You can't do that.

Brandi Glanville (55:31)

And her lips, freshly done, freshly plumped.

Julie Goldman (55:34)

And you can see right here, she does end up saying in the preview that for next week. So they did the whole finale to.

Heather McDonald (55:40)

Remind you guys who don't watch the show. She went to prison for her fourth DUI. Yes, she.

Julie Goldman (55:44)

And was in like, I think two of those DUIs was in actual accidents.

Heather McDonald (55:48)

Yes.

Julie Goldman (55:50)

So she. They do the whole finale where it's like Wendy and. Oh, right, fucking Larry with Eddie were arrested for fraud. You know, face 15 years in jail or whatever. Then they do Giselle. She's still looking for her man or whatever, all the things. And then you're like, okay, yes, the finale's next week. I mean, the reunion's next week. And they're like, nope, on next week's season finale. And it's like, like what? And then it's Karen getting out of.

Heather McDonald (56:17)

The thing, out of prison.

Julie Goldman (56:18)

And she in a thing that none of us saw with the lashes, with the makeup, with the outfit, with a fake paparazzi all staged around. And I'm like, we never saw her. This is the A reenactment. Then they go and say the. All that the other inmates, her. Her. Her cellmates and friends cut off their hair and gave her their hair so she could do those braids.

Heather McDonald (56:47)

Do you really think that's true?

Julie Goldman (56:49)

I don't know.

Heather McDonald (56:50)

Because, well, that's like out of a fable or maybe like, what are you talking about?

Julie Goldman (56:55)

It's just a story from the Bible. It's Corinthians 1, 2, 7.

Brandi Glanville (57:01)

And Mary dawned Rachel, that love story.

Heather McDonald (57:06)

They're like, my mom told me where it's like, it was a poor couple and the girl had beautiful, beautiful hair. And the guy sold his. He sold something to buy this Beautiful comb for her hair to put in her hair. And then she cut off all her hair to sell her hair to buy him a gift. It's called like the gift. And they both are like here. And then she's like bald.

Brandi Glanville (57:31)

And he has a cock ring.

Heather McDonald (57:32)

Yeah.

Julie Goldman (57:34)

That he uses with someone else because.

Brandi Glanville (57:35)

Now she's bald that he uses with.

Heather McDonald (57:38)

His boyfriend.

Brandi Glanville (57:41)

And his name is Colton.

Heather McDonald (57:43)

Oh my God.

Brandi Glanville (57:45)

I mean, I kind of believe it. Yeah.

Julie Goldman (57:49)

I mean maybe they did it and they reenacted it so that she could tell the story.

Brandi Glanville (57:55)

But they're not allowed to wear wigs in there.

Heather McDonald (57:57)

So that way people grew their hair out in braids and they would cut them then and then rebraid it so you'd have like this much hair, then you'd have a thing hair. And then you just get the braids together because they are different colors.

Julie Goldman (58:11)

Yeah, so and so yeah, they gave it to her because she was probably.

Heather McDonald (58:16)

They were like, the people are like, listen, I may never get out of here, but I want my hair to have a good time.

Julie Goldman (58:21)

Right.

Heather McDonald (58:22)

I want my hair at the reunion. And then all of a sudden she's wearing a different like wig at the reunion. They're like, I thought you said my two braids were gonna beat Andy Cohen.

Julie Goldman (58:30)

Yeah, exactly.

Heather McDonald (58:31)

You bitch.

Julie Goldman (58:31)

Have seen the Martha Stewart documentary about her. You saw the I loved the dog. Like there's so many stories, even with Teresa where by the time they get out it's like I can imagine myself and like again it is always about me being like kind of salty and like cuz somebody's getting out and I'm still there forever. But they're always so supportive when someone gets out.

Brandi Glanville (58:53)

They're just women particularly.

Julie Goldman (58:54)

Yeah, they're just like, yeah man, you're out, you're free. And they.

Brandi Glanville (58:57)

I believe Karen, 1 million percent was the Grande dame in there. And I think she held, I think and Teresa for sure.

Julie Goldman (59:07)

Yeah, we know Theresa.

Brandi Glanville (59:08)

God, 100% the boss. And Martha Stewart is definitely the boss.

Heather McDonald (59:13)

I mean I think the kind of girl that should be scared to go to prison is like a young, pretty, you know, rich girl that's. But I now, I used to be scared, but now that I'm not that young, I. I think I would be just as popular as a real housewife in the end. I do.

Julie Goldman (59:32)

And also I'd be like the guards.

Heather McDonald (59:35)

Free re I'd be telling their story. I'd be giving anti advice.

Julie Goldman (59:39)

Oh yeah, you start the first prison podcast ever made.

Heather McDonald (59:43)

I'd be like, here, here, Shannon, talk to this girl. Help get her out. Shannon, be like, fuck, I just want to talk to you.

Julie Goldman (59:49)

I definitely thought that Karen was just like, you know what, Marie? I'm gonna talk to Roy or what's the husband's name?

Brandi Glanville (59:58)

Yeah, Ray.

Julie Goldman (59:59)

Ray. We're gonna see what we can do.

Heather McDonald (60:01)

Right?

Brandi Glanville (60:01)

Right. Like, you know, none of you should be in here.

Julie Goldman (60:04)

She has so many connections.

Heather McDonald (60:06)

I mean, amazing. Okay. Oh, wait. I want to ask you what is a scoop on Potomac? Because I haven't been watching Stacy, who's, like, the QVC girl who had the fake boyfriend. What is the rumor that she's. They're saying that she's actually boned another cast member's husband.

Julie Goldman (60:23)

Yeah, it was Monique. It was Monique who was on.

Heather McDonald (60:26)

Right.

Julie Goldman (60:27)

Prior to.

Heather McDonald (60:28)

Who's going through divorce now.

Julie Goldman (60:29)

Yeah. And he was a football player. But she has not been on for, like, two or three or even more years. She got a fight with Candace, who is the traitor.

Heather McDonald (60:36)

Okay.

Julie Goldman (60:38)

Monique came back since Candace is gone, and then they just said that. While Stacy, who's getting back with her husband, whose name is basically Timo.

Brandi Glanville (60:47)

Yeah, Timo.

Julie Goldman (60:50)

Yeah. So she had, like, a fling or something, such as with Monique's husband while they were already divorced. And Monique didn't care. Monique didn't care. But the cast.

Heather McDonald (61:02)

So is she denying it?

Brandi Glanville (61:04)

She is denying it.

Julie Goldman (61:04)

She's saying they never had sex. Like, hooked. Hooked up like that. But they went on a date, hung out, and they. Yeah, they, like, know each other in the world.

Heather McDonald (61:11)

We're friends.

Brandi Glanville (61:11)

We're friends. She's the best, Stacey.

Julie Goldman (61:14)

We love her.

Brandi Glanville (61:15)

She's absolutely the best. From qvc. She can sell you anything. This table is grounded in. Well, apparently. I just can't believe it.

Julie Goldman (61:25)

We really wanted to meet her at Brava.

Heather McDonald (61:26)

She was accused of having bad breath by numerous cast members, and she just embraced it.

Brandi Glanville (61:31)

She was like, she will not be faltered. She will not she nothing.

Heather McDonald (61:35)

And the thing is about. I always remember this from my days of working with keen ivory Waynes. He didn't love, like, a fart joke. He goes, because you cannot. It's about smell. You have to be there. It doesn't translate over the screen. So I feel the same. I think going after her breath doesn't go anywhere unless you've actually smelled it.

Julie Goldman (61:56)

Right.

Brandi Glanville (61:57)

I have to agree.

Heather McDonald (61:58)

I have to agree.

Julie Goldman (61:59)

I have to disagree with Keenan, though, because a fart can also be a better noise.

Brandi Glanville (62:03)

Yeah, that is true. So that's true.

Julie Goldman (62:06)

If it's a silent fart, then yeah.

Brandi Glanville (62:08)

But then it's about the Smell.

Julie Goldman (62:10)

Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (62:10)

Yeah.

Julie Goldman (62:10)

I don't like jokes about smells. Anyway, it grosses me out. But on this last far fake finale finale, before the finale, Stacy is talking to Ashley and Giselle, who were the main two who accused her. And I told Julie, I said, look what they're doing. And they're both like this. She's close talking to them.

Heather McDonald (62:28)

Oh, they're covering their nostrils.

Julie Goldman (62:30)

They both are.

Brandi Glanville (62:31)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (62:32)

Wow.

Julie Goldman (62:32)

Now they. That might be their thing because they were the ones who brought it to the table.

Heather McDonald (62:35)

So they want to keep the storyline going. Yeah.

Julie Goldman (62:38)

But I don't know. They haven't brought it up again, and it seems like they're all just dealing with.

Brandi Glanville (62:42)

Yeah.

Julie Goldman (62:43)

We love Stacy. She said something about smoking. So at one point, she used to smoke.

Brandi Glanville (62:50)

She had to quit.

Julie Goldman (62:51)

So we thought maybe she's secretly smoking, which can give.

Heather McDonald (62:55)

Not it. Yeah. Not help with your breath.

Julie Goldman (62:57)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (62:58)

Interesting. Okay. Real housewives of Beverly Hills had a weird moment this past week where Rachel had a party and the new girl, Amanda, came. And the new girl, Amanda, revealed that she has a one child. She's a stepmother. Then she has one child, and then she had twins. And one of the twins, they were both born early, but one of the twins passed five days after birth. So she's. So we share that moment where she talks to her husband about it and that the anniversary is coming because every time the one child turns one, then the anniversary of the other one passing is five days later. So they go to the party, and she does share it with Kyle that this is the anniversary. But then she's sitting there and, you know, dorit has her marching papers from the producers or whatever to bring up the fact that Amanda thinks that it's wrong for. For Dorit to talk about PK as a dad as just like, I don't think that'll help with custody. It's not a horrible thing to say.

Brandi Glanville (63:58)

No.

Heather McDonald (63:59)

She's like, maybe don't be so public about it. Maybe don't put it on the show. It's not gonna help. But then Dorit didn't like her because right from the beginning, Dorit says, here's my Birkin bag, my little baby Birkin, my Kelly. To celebrate that, I have a book deal, mind you. And everyone's like, oh, yeah, first of all, I know what they're paying for books, and you're not buying a Kelly with your advance. So either you had the Kelly already or the Kelly isn't real, or you're spending PK's money to buy the Kelly, and that's why he's a dick. I don't know. And then so. So she. And then she goes, yes, something a ghostwriter came up and Erika J. Is like, I had a ghostwriter. You wouldn't have seen that book come to the light of day if I didn't have someone write before me.

Brandi Glanville (64:44)

Here's how it came up. Yeah, Amanda.

Heather McDonald (64:46)

Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (64:48)

So Dorit was like, they're all like, book deal, book deal, book deal, book purse, book deal. Oh, you have a book. And then Dorit's. Yeah. And we just contracted the other author. And that's when Amanda goes, oh, like a ghostwriter. Oh, that's weird. When I wrote my book, I just like sat down and wrote it. And then everyone.

Heather McDonald (65:13)

Why even write a book if you're not gonna write it yourself?

Brandi Glanville (65:15)

Yeah, I just did it.

Heather McDonald (65:17)

Like it's not that hard.

Brandi Glanville (65:18)

It's easy to write a book. I manifested it.

Heather McDonald (65:21)

Yeah, it's called write as fuck. And yeah, like I manifest having a bestseller and then I manifested my fingers moving.

Brandi Glanville (65:37)

It's not hard to do at all.

Heather McDonald (65:38)

It's not.

Brandi Glanville (65:39)

Get a place. Have you heard of one? Or maybe like, have you seen this? Have you ever seen this before?

Heather McDonald (65:44)

Yeah, I love that they always do the COVID photo shoot before they've ever written the book.

Julie Goldman (65:50)

Not always single word.

Heather McDonald (65:52)

Let's make sure that we get the COVID shoot done.

Brandi Glanville (65:55)

But then everyone had to. And as much as I. And I, I saw all of them. And we all felt the same way. When she said that it was one of the most disgusting. I can't stand her. But that Amanda.

Heather McDonald (66:07)

And she wouldn't stop later.

Julie Goldman (66:09)

It's like, I'll take the filet mignon. And she's like, you just write a book. You just sit down and write it. It's like we're ordering dinner now. We're not still talking about the book writing.

Brandi Glanville (66:17)

Like, what?

Heather McDonald (66:18)

And then Dorit's like, well, you must have a lot of time on your hands. I'm doing it for time. And listen, it is a times I was tell somebody, even if they were a good writer, why not have someone come and spend the weekend with you? And they just. And that you tell all your stories and they go and then you come back and edit it. Who the cares? Like, what does it matter? And remember how much Aviva one legged Aviva tried to say Carol Radell used a a ghostwriter? And Carol Radell was like, no, I did not.

Brandi Glanville (66:48)

No, I believe. I do believe.

Heather McDonald (66:51)

Giz Lane, take my photo. But no, I did not need a ghost. Not A photographer.

Brandi Glanville (66:57)

And then just everyone. I'm glad Erica said that, because, you know, and then even Rachel Zoe is like. But then everyone who wrote a book.

Heather McDonald (67:07)

Had to be like, I die.

Brandi Glanville (67:08)

And then of course, she's like, I die. I have two best selling New York Times bestsellers. But I would never say it.

Heather McDonald (67:13)

I would never bring it up. But actually, I love writing it up. I love people writing the books. Cause I die and. Oh, my God, I think I need to have this. I think I need. Are you kidding me right now with the Chanel bag? I just can't. It's just quilted. It's denim. It's absolutely. I like, I'm shaking the vintage bag right now.

Brandi Glanville (67:35)

What I loved that you said. What is when you go in your thing, you said you asked Amanda if there was something wrong with her. Like in the. In the interview, she's like, amanda, is there something wrong with you? Like, are you okay?

Heather McDonald (67:50)

Are you okay?

Brandi Glanville (67:51)

Are you okay?

Heather McDonald (67:51)

When Rachel Zo did.

Brandi Glanville (67:52)

Rachel Zo said it in the thing, because that was. Everyone want to sew in a group of people where your entire job is to name drop, brag, get in fights, do whatever. You know, let's just say that's the whole thing of the show for this person to one up that so much that it's. We're. It's.

Julie Goldman (68:13)

Even the one uppers are horrified.

Brandi Glanville (68:15)

Horrified. That says something.

Heather McDonald (68:17)

So then Dorit's like, I just want to ask you a question, Amanda. I heard from Kyle that you. You don't agree with how I'm talking about PK during my divorce. And Amanda's like, yeah, I said that, but I really don't want to talk about this right now. And she's like, well, that's fine. We can table the conversation. But I want to have the conversation. No, because this is the anniversary of. And then she says the child's name. I forgot the child's name. And then all of a sudden, Kathy Hilton's like, like, oh, is that your dog? No, that's my child. It was Ion. No, that's my child. Everyone's like, oh, my God. Well, of course. It's so incredibly sad. But this is where Dorit, like, doesn't read. The room has no clues. She's like, well, I'm sorry, but you decided to come to this event, and I need to get this scene out where I'm going to address it with you. That's right. Oh, my God. So it just comes off horribly. But I do have a little sympathy and empathy for Dorit. And everybody there, except for Kyle, nobody knew that this was her anniversary. And if she really was feeling like that, you know, of course you don't have to go to every event you want to go because it's filming. But if your kid is singing the solo at school, if you have the flu, if you have some other business, they cannot force you to go. It's real life. Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (69:40)

If you turn it.

Heather McDonald (69:40)

So it's like she wanted to go. And so I feel for that. Okay, okay. Real House of Salt Lake City were what it was. Your thoughts on what is going on? I need you to explain that. There is this controversy that was so hard for me to understand where Britney, the new girl, is accused of supporting a manicurist who is an anti Semite.

Brandi Glanville (70:06)

First, I want to say while I'm looking for this, Mary Cosby's iman. Okay, okay.

Julie Goldman (70:13)

Now, so we had not seen the Mary Cosby documentary last time we were with you. And so we saw it and we were pretty, like, disturbed by it. It definitely affected our impression of Mary and even the reunion, watching it, she just came across very, very manipulative. But this thing with Britney, who. Who is a very friendly girl. Okay, but we also love Meredith, is a convoluted story that Julie has attempted to.

Brandi Glanville (70:47)

Okay, so basically during the reunion, Meredith has been fighting with Britney the whole season.

Heather McDonald (70:54)

Well, because Britney brought up a TikTok from nowhere saying that Seth has a girlfriend. And it's not true.

Brandi Glanville (71:01)

Right. So we know that Seth is completely faithful.

Heather McDonald (71:06)

Okay.

Brandi Glanville (71:08)

And he even called and said we're.

Heather McDonald (71:10)

Doing better than ever.

Brandi Glanville (71:11)

Doing better than ever.

Julie Goldman (71:12)

Honey, do you have a girlfriend with anyone besides me?

Heather McDonald (71:14)

DJ Git.

Brandi Glanville (71:17)

So then Meredith just drops a bombshell, which is, why are you mad at Brittany? Well, Brittany. Apparently Brittany left a positive review for a nail salon, either owner or nail tech. But I think it's the nail salon owner who made an anti Jewish comment. But then you say, what turns out what? Well, here's the story. And I found there was a news story. So Meredith even said in the reunion it was all over the news, and apparently it was. So here, I'm gonna play the story so you can hear it. Okay, so here's gonna use my first phone.

Heather McDonald (72:01)

Okay. Screenshots of anti semitic messages allegedly sent by its owner were shared online. ABC4's Anika John spoke to the man who received these messages and learned what's.

Brandi Glanville (72:13)

Followed since we took a group photo with the menorah.

Heather McDonald (72:17)

What started as a simple social media post quickly turned the world of Jason Singer upside down.

Brandi Glanville (72:22)

I posted the photo Friday morning and. And shortly after Hunter had DMed me saying, oh, you're a Jew, in screenshots.

Heather McDonald (72:32)

Sent to ABC4, an account with the username I'm Hunter Allen sent a series of messages to Jason he says are full of offensive accusations against the Jewish community.

Brandi Glanville (72:41)

And I said, I don't understand why me being Jewish would elicit any negative reaction from you. And to which he replied, jewish people are pedophiles that run to Israel to escape persecution.

Heather McDonald (72:54)

This is when Jason says he took to social media, sharing the conversation.

Brandi Glanville (72:59)

As a fellow business owner, I think the community has a right to understand the type of people that own the businesses that they spend their money at.

Heather McDonald (73:06)

The only way that he can so net. So cut to your new housewife and you get a message from Hunty nail bar saying, I'd love to give you a complimentary gel manicure. So no housewife turns down anything. Hence why Brandi Glanville also didn't turn down a parasite that crawled into her skin. Who knows what happened with her face. But sometimes people think maybe you went visited too many doctors for fillers. We don't know. So she gets her nails done and then he reaches out to her and is like, hey, can you leave me a good review? And she's like, sure. And wasn't aware of this news story apparently.

Brandi Glanville (73:51)

And Jared also.

Heather McDonald (73:53)

Yeah, I love my nails.

Brandi Glanville (73:55)

Yeah. And Jared also left a review. Jared is the Osmond.

Heather McDonald (74:00)

Oh, he's also getting nails done.

Brandi Glanville (74:02)

Gross ass boyfriend.

Julie Goldman (74:03)

He was in the background for some reason.

Heather McDonald (74:04)

He left a review.

Brandi Glanville (74:05)

So then.

Heather McDonald (74:06)

So they both did it. And then Meredith, who's Jewish, found out that they both left reviews on this guy. And then she's put that in her. No, she's like, why?

Julie Goldman (74:15)

She hates her and asked her to remove it. And she wouldn't do it.

Heather McDonald (74:18)

It to remove the positive review. Yes.

Julie Goldman (74:21)

And she told her the evidence. Right. Of the pedophiles who run to Israel or whatever and the other employees and that, you know, basically said he was toxic. And then she just said, he's been nothing but nice. I'm so sorry. She. Bernie was very lovely. She's like, I'm so sorry that, you know, that does not reflect how we feel. But he did great nails and he was never in anything but nice to me. And Mara's like, well, I'm just not gonna. So they, she. She got her feelings.

Heather McDonald (74:46)

Should have done what would totally been a great housewife moment if Meredith said, actually, Britney, I do have something for you. And then she just Goes over, just gives her, like, some regular nail polish and is like, you can do your own nails rather than have it done by an anti Semite.

Julie Goldman (75:05)

You'll never get another recommendation from me. I mean, I personally wanna give a shout out to the woman who did the news story. I wish she would be transferred to ktla. I was lo.

Heather McDonald (75:16)

And living for. Oh, my God.

Brandi Glanville (75:17)

I mean, that is. I mean, Hunter.

Heather McDonald (75:19)

Well, now I just seen that Britney has said, like, I won't film with Meredith and all of this. And Meredith was very, very hurt.

Brandi Glanville (75:29)

I mean, she really took it, but I understand why.

Heather McDonald (75:33)

It's just such a sensitive subject. And then you're kind of like a couple degrees away. But then it's almost like Britney probably felt you're accusing me of being that.

Brandi Glanville (75:43)

Well, then she did not.

Julie Goldman (75:45)

True.

Brandi Glanville (75:46)

And I did. No Britney. No way. And she got up, and that made her cry. And she's like, I'm not an anti Semite. And for a million percent, we don't think she's.

Julie Goldman (75:56)

She had no problem being like, bitch, I'm not your friend. I'm not taking the review down. But then without ever putting I don't think two and two together, that now this was gonna come back on her, that she feels that way.

Brandi Glanville (76:05)

Right.

Julie Goldman (76:06)

And the minute that occurred to her at the reunion, and you can see, I mean, she got up and walked off. I mean, she's horrified and. And. And doesn't want that out there about her. She seems like a loving, sweet person, I will say. And even. Even though she's. We're friendly, all three of us, with Brittany and we like her, but, I mean, I'm not gonna. I don't want Meredith off the show.

Heather McDonald (76:28)

No, I don't want anyone off the show. And then the other juicy thing that happened was Lisa Barlow was accused of creating a fake account to write positive things about Lisa Barlow, but negative things about whoever she's having trouble with at the time. And Angie believes it's her because she said there was. It was my daughter's birthday and you hadn't followed. You hadn't seen my stories, but you know, Candace's show or some. Whatever the fake name is, did see my stories. And right away you texted me and said, oh, it's your daughter's birthday. Happy birthday. How would you know that except that you have these two accounts. One is Lisa Barlow, and one is this other person. And Lisa Barlow says, it's not me. It's not me. And then they said, well, we suspected it was you. So we went to log in. And they said something like, what's the number associated with this? And they typed in Lisa Barlow's number, and then it prompted another number. And therefore they said, that's why we know it's you. Since that's been out, other people have debunked this theory. And they said, no, you could do that with anybody. Right. It doesn't mean. Because I was like, wait, you could find out that easily just by plugging in someone's number that you suspect might be trolling you that you know. And no. So I don't know that we'll ever know the truth on that one.

Brandi Glanville (77:55)

I just want to say this. For any of them to be concerned about Lisa Barlow having an alternate thing or. Or I don't even. Whatever the bullshit that they care about. The only thing. If you're cared about fraud or whatever, then you care about Mary Cosby.

Julie Goldman (78:13)

And Bronwyn.

Brandi Glanville (78:14)

And Bronwyn, who also committed fraud. But Mary Cosby stole people's 401ks. She took old people's money. Poor people, vulnerable people. She fleeced people out of money. She was ahead of a cult.

Julie Goldman (78:24)

Watch the documentary.

Brandi Glanville (78:25)

And she married her. Even though it's her step grandfather. He was like her father. He was Woody Allen to her. Being Soon Yi. She is a manipulative. Talk about a sociopath. And whether she can have redemption or not or whatever it is 100% in my opinion. I was just sitting there going like Heather Gay is yelling at everyone about being a good friend and did it do. And this. That. And the other thing while sitting right there is someone who literally stole money from people who.

Heather McDonald (78:55)

Here's the thing that people don't like. I agree with you in that. But it's show business. And bad behavior is rewarded whether you're a scripted actor or a reality show person or whatever.

Julie Goldman (79:10)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (79:11)

They. You. You know, being.

Julie Goldman (79:12)

Except for if you're Jen Shaw. Yeah.

Brandi Glanville (79:14)

And that's right. Exactly.

Heather McDonald (79:17)

Yeah. And maybe she'll come back and redeem herself too. But there are certain crimes that the audience. Because they like you and they enjoy you. They just want to forget it.

Julie Goldman (79:27)

It. Yeah.

Heather McDonald (79:28)

And religion is kind of a hard thing because I think people see it as. Well adults chose to be part of this church there. It isn't like she has, you know.

Julie Goldman (79:38)

Right.

Heather McDonald (79:39)

Really like hurt children or anything like that.

Julie Goldman (79:41)

Or one could say adults chose to invest in Jen Shaw's thing. People with consenting minds went on Facebook and they were gripped.

Heather McDonald (79:49)

Yeah. But they were told a lie. I'm just kind of doing devil's etiquette. Yeah. Why is it that the audience is louder about somebody else?

Brandi Glanville (79:59)

That's the question.

Heather McDonald (80:00)

The audience is very loud. If they find out that you might follow an account that isn't politically on their side or you pushed, like, why? Nobody would. But why doesn't anyone think about the fact that, like. Well, I. I want to hear what the crazy other side is saying. If I'm following it, it's because I want to see it. I don't. Just because it's like the thing about Instagram, it's like tv.

Julie Goldman (80:22)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (80:22)

It's like, if all of a sudden you're like, we found out that you watch this, this show, that must mean that you believe this. Like, I think that whole witch hunt thing is really lame. And the fact that Peter will get more angry about something like that than what you actually did with 20 years of your livelihood is like, crazy bananas.

Brandi Glanville (80:43)

Agree.

Julie Goldman (80:44)

I do think that with Mary Cosby, though, the documentary has not been seen enough. Whereas the Jen Shaw stuff, because it played out on Salt Lake City and also Salt Lake City did not feature the Bronwyn stuff enough. People just aren't aware. But the documentary about Mary Cosby is out there, and we recommend watching it only because she sat at the reunion as well and told Lisa Barlow she was dark. She sort of sat on a high horse at the reunion. If she had been more humble and kind. And she has been more likable in the last couple seasons with her son and just her whole vibe and her dog. I loved her relationship with her dog, but she sat at the reunion and pretty much manipulated every conversation to be negative about Lisa and never about herself.

Heather McDonald (81:30)

They all told on her. They all said, we've heard horrible things about her weird church and all that stuff. But they all want. They all like being on the show and they know, just like the Greek tragedy, they all have to get along for the cameras. They all have to play along. It seems, though, after this last one, the cast, when I was at the party at Kyle's, is very split. So Meredith was a guest of, you know, a guest of the party and was hanging out with Lisa Barlow, who's actually on the cast. And then Bronwyn and Whitney were hanging out and they were the four people from the show, and they never were even on the same side of the backyard. And so I. I don't know, but I think in the end, yes, they'll all be back because they all are really valuable to the show.

Julie Goldman (82:25)

I will just say, as one last comment on the reunion we have one more episode left. But if you go back and we've watched it several times and it is hard to watch. Cause it is a lot of talking over and. Yeah. And when Andy Cohen finally gets up and walks out, which was kind of lame. Cause then he just turns around and walks back.

Brandi Glanville (82:45)

But.

Julie Goldman (82:48)

The person that was really, in my opinion, driving a lot of that over talk was Heather Gay.

Brandi Glanville (82:54)

Yeah.

Julie Goldman (82:55)

And she's, you know, in her. She doc. She, you know, she's got three homes and four cars and putting three daughters through school. And she's got two bestsellers. And she, you know, produced, executive produced a docu series. And I think she's feeling that she's untouchable right now with the network. And that could be true, but it wasn't her best reunion by far.

Heather McDonald (83:17)

Well, then you were gonna die at. The rumor came across last night in the streets. By streets, I mean TikTok.

Julie Goldman (83:25)

What are the streets saying, Please.

Heather McDonald (83:27)

That allegedly rumored. Okay, so none of this is factual. There is a Real House of Salt Lake City cast member who's been in a relationship with a woman. Not on the cast. With another woman. Woman. And the comments were heavily. Heather Gay.

Julie Goldman (83:46)

Was it a woman from another cast?

Heather McDonald (83:48)

No, just a.

Julie Goldman (83:49)

Just a regular.

Heather McDonald (83:50)

Just seeing one.

Julie Goldman (83:51)

Huh.

Heather McDonald (83:52)

And I don't know why they all jumped on that, but they all did. That's just the comments.

Brandi Glanville (83:56)

Okay, let me work it out for a minute.

Julie Goldman (83:59)

My first instance right now. I'm telling you right now, I don't think it's. Whitney is who I think.

Heather McDonald (84:03)

Okay. I don't.

Julie Goldman (84:05)

You don't?

Heather McDonald (84:06)

I would have said that in the past. I don't now. Because. Because after talking to Whitney and Bronwyn at the party, at Kyle's party, they are definitely good friends. I don't think anything else is happening there. And I think Whitney.

Julie Goldman (84:19)

Well, I don't think they're hooking up.

Heather McDonald (84:21)

And Whitney was in Sundance with Justin. I just don't think she has time for that right now.

Julie Goldman (84:26)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (84:26)

Has she messed around with women? Absolutely. She said it herself.

Julie Goldman (84:29)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (84:29)

I think Bronwyn. No. If she's seeing anyone, I think it's a guy.

Brandi Glanville (84:34)

Well, she said she got with women too and went all the way.

Julie Goldman (84:36)

Way.

Heather McDonald (84:37)

Right. But I don't think that's maybe why this river started. But I'm telling you, no right now.

Brandi Glanville (84:43)

No.

Heather McDonald (84:43)

Okay.

Brandi Glanville (84:44)

Okay, girls.

Heather McDonald (84:47)

I don't have any reference to this or anything, but I could see why as just a fun rumor to talk about why people would point a finger at her just because a. She's been single for years.

Julie Goldman (84:58)

She better lean on it.

Heather McDonald (84:59)

She hasn't had anybody. She made a bigger deal out of the captain of the below deck.

Brandi Glanville (85:03)

Yeah, she did. Like, like she constantly about dicks and stuff.

Heather McDonald (85:08)

Yeah. Like just. Yeah. Talking about a lot too much.

Brandi Glanville (85:10)

Like a lot of dicks.

Heather McDonald (85:11)

Like a Todd Christie.

Brandi Glanville (85:14)

She's just always talking about like yeah.

Heather McDonald (85:16)

Like I gotta have sex with Julie and I love. Yeah.

Julie Goldman (85:20)

She is very intense with the other woman. Women in terms of Adam.

Heather McDonald (85:26)

That would be such a cool.

Julie Goldman (85:28)

Yeah. And you know, then she could get merch. Heather gay be gay.

Brandi Glanville (85:31)

Oh, Heather.

Heather McDonald (85:33)

If he's gay, turns out to be gay. Amazing.

Brandi Glanville (85:36)

That is amazing.

Heather McDonald (85:37)

Anyone can make this stuff up.

Julie Goldman (85:39)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (85:39)

And it's just a dumb thing. Heather and people really got opinion.

Brandi Glanville (85:41)

Yeah. I've known one person my whole life whose last name was gay and they were gay. And if it were Heather Gay is also gay. Heather gay is also gay would be amazing. I mean she does have big hands.

Heather McDonald (85:53)

But I mean the fact that my name is Heather McDonald and never once have I gotten any kind of of opportunity to do an ad with McDonald's is crazy.

Brandi Glanville (86:02)

That is crazy.

Heather McDonald (86:03)

And they have hired Ross Matthew. They've hired Christina Pasinski.

Brandi Glanville (86:06)

What?

Heather McDonald (86:07)

And I have tagged them. I have talked about the items I like at McDonald's.

Brandi Glanville (86:11)

What the hell?

Heather McDonald (86:12)

And I just don't understand what items do you like? I always. Well, there was a time they had these grilled chicken wrap things.

Julie Goldman (86:21)

Your chicken.

Heather McDonald (86:23)

I'll die over their breakfast sandwiches.

Julie Goldman (86:24)

Yes.

Heather McDonald (86:25)

Yes. Love the diet cokes. Love the softy ice cream.

Brandi Glanville (86:28)

Oh, what about the fries?

Heather McDonald (86:30)

I love the fries. Fries are the best.

Julie Goldman (86:31)

They're so. They're all. Their whole fountain soda game across the board is delicious.

Heather McDonald (86:34)

Another gay gets to be gay and work that marketing deal. That I deserve one partnership with McDonald's.

Julie Goldman (86:43)

You do.

Heather McDonald (86:43)

Someone is working in the McDonald's operation. Why you've not gotten me to do.

Julie Goldman (86:49)

Something with a brand deal.

Brandi Glanville (86:51)

Also I will say, say Goldman. Goldman Sachs. Why don't you give me a call and give me some money?

Heather McDonald (86:57)

How about that?

Brandi Glanville (86:58)

Why don't you invest and give me like a portfolio and stop being some Jewish money lenders like get it. Like come on.

Heather McDonald (87:06)

So Jennifer Aniston's boyfriend, they've been going out about a year. He reveals their relationship origins from tmz. He wrote a book like the possibility of possibilities or something. He's a hypnotist. He is a wellness coach. And I mean very much. Amanda. He is.

Brandi Glanville (87:29)

He's man, Amanda.

Heather McDonald (87:30)

He can hypnotize AF Yeah, hypnotist.

Julie Goldman (87:34)

Hypnotist. AF and.

Heather McDonald (87:35)

But he's very cute and all these things are not hurting anybody. You know, you don't have to buy the coaching series. You don't have to buy the book.

Brandi Glanville (87:45)

Nope.

Heather McDonald (87:46)

They figured out a way to inspire people to get hypnotized. And I just think it's very funny to that, you know, you can hypnotize someone to fall in love with you. Now he said it was a long process. They, A longer process. They met through friends. They were just friends and everything. But, you know, she's having a great time and I can imagine that she's like, oh, at first I was like, please don't go take your necklace and go back and forth in my face because I'll be like, who's a silver haired fox? But we actually. I am a really positive person. Every morning I get up and I'm like, ugh, I want some coffee, I want a new day. And he's just so right for me. And he has hypnotized people into realizing that they can make as much money as Amanda.

Brandi Glanville (88:40)

He's gonna go on tour with Amanda.

Heather McDonald (88:42)

I'm gonna. And just like me, I'm gonna manifest. Manifest mama to her.

Brandi Glanville (88:47)

Oh, yeah.

Julie Goldman (88:48)

Bethany did say Bethany Frankel. Yes, she did.

Heather McDonald (88:52)

She tried to date this guy too, because there's always a lot of crossups. There's only like about seven eligible guys, salt and peppered guys that have like decent abs.

Julie Goldman (89:01)

She went around, she said she went on one date with him, I think.

Heather McDonald (89:05)

But then he did go on one.

Julie Goldman (89:06)

Date with him and he was great and cool, but they just, they didn't vibe. But she said he was great. She didn't have anything negative to say, but she did.

Heather McDonald (89:15)

Bethenny Frankel was just photographed with another, again, one of the seven eligible men that have enough money, that have salt and pepper hair and a decent body walking around this earth. The cameras just happened to have caught them going to the beach.

Julie Goldman (89:32)

Is he as good looking as.

Heather McDonald (89:35)

Maybe not as good looking, but at the same level where every woman is. Is like, yeah, I could date him. Realizing, no, everybody could date him. Like, you know what I mean? Like you think you're lowering your standard.

Julie Goldman (89:47)

But like you're not.

Heather McDonald (89:48)

He's a legit good looking guy. That's his age.

Brandi Glanville (89:51)

That's what they need to be teaching the classes on these guys. There should be more than 7 eligible 50 something gentlemen walking around to just.

Heather McDonald (89:59)

Try to make these guys better.

Brandi Glanville (90:00)

Yeah, like, come on, guys. Like, well, that's what Gay.

Heather McDonald (90:03)

That's what a Queer Eye for the Straight Guy was for. And then it turned into the Fab Four, and now they just all are holding hands and crying for the Fab Five or whatever it's called.

Brandi Glanville (90:12)

Exactly. It's.

Julie Goldman (90:13)

I can't get the Turkish hairline surgery. Yeah. Lose a little, you know, get some family inheritance and let's get it off.

Heather McDonald (90:22)

That's really what it is, is like, there is just a. Just so few eligible men, like, over 50 that you'd want that have.

Julie Goldman (90:32)

And hair is a big part of it.

Brandi Glanville (90:34)

Right?

Julie Goldman (90:35)

Like, Peter's got a nice head of hair.

Heather McDonald (90:37)

Yeah, I guess. I know. So many times I just, like, watch something like the Golden Bachelor or even any, like, Love is Bl. And I'm like, I should, like, be more appreciative that I got a man.

Brandi Glanville (90:48)

Hey, hey, you got a man. Okay, I got a man. You got a man. You know what I mean? You know what? You have a good man.

Julie Goldman (90:55)

And then he's like, heather, Peter, just know I'm watching TV right now. Go bug Drake.

Heather McDonald (91:03)

Yeah. Girls, tell everybody how they can get more of Brandi and Julie in their life. For laughs, for knowledge, for. For inspiration.

Brandi Glanville (91:14)

For knowledge. We do have our. We have a political free podcast called Dumb Gay Politics. It's on the liberal side, but we do. Our whole thing is we talk about politics like we talk about reality tv. So it's fun. And now is a very intense time.

Julie Goldman (91:29)

But we do keep it funny and light. It's a comedy.

Brandi Glanville (91:32)

Yeah, yeah.

Julie Goldman (91:33)

And then we have Patreon, a Patreon podcast where we do not discuss politics at all.

Heather McDonald (91:38)

All.

Julie Goldman (91:39)

So it's just an escape.

Brandi Glanville (91:40)

And it's just anyone who's. Anyone who's everyone is welcome. And it's a great community. And we. And it does have a community. Like, there's a whole very interactive community on our Patreon. And it's positive and it's supportive and it's funny and it's fun. And we don't allow any bullshit. No. No bullshit. So that's where you can find us. And we'll be in Minneapolis February 24th through March 23rd. Nightmare and Strip street at the Hollywood Thursday.

Heather McDonald (92:06)

That will be something that town needs to enjoy. And everything for me is@heathermcdonald.net and so check out those tickets. The link will be there for wise guys in Salt Lake City. Mormons come along. It's two shows a night. It's like 6 and 8:30. I like it early.

Brandi Glanville (92:24)

Nice.

Julie Goldman (92:25)

Let's go, mom talk.

Brandi Glanville (92:26)

Yeah.

Julie Goldman (92:27)

Let's stay in the mom talk.

Heather McDonald (92:28)

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