BravoCon Secrets and Scams with Brandy and Julie

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Episode: BravoCon Secrets and Scams with Brandy and Julie
Date: November 18, 2025
Guests: Brandy Howard and Julie Goldman (Dumb Gay Podcast)

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Main Theme & Purpose

This “Vegas edition” of Juicy Scoop finds Heather, Brandy, and Julie reflecting on their wild BravoCon weekend in Las Vegas—from headline shows, exclusive dinners, and impromptu run-ins with Bravolebs, to one-off encounters with grifters and a refreshing avoidance of the convention center madness. The trio recount not just the glamorous (and odd) highlights but spill genuine Bravo tea and share insider perspectives on Housewives dynamics, fan interactions, and BravoCon’s evolving culture. The tone is candid, irreverent, and packed with humor.

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Key Discussions & Insights

A Weekend in Vegas: Living Large, Skipping the Lines

• Recorded from their MGM Grand hotel room, the trio reveal they never actually set foot at BravoCon’s convention center, despite being in Vegas for the event.
  • Memorable Quote:
    “We have not even gone near the convention center. We had no complimentary tickets at all. We haven't been to BravoCon. And it was the greatest BravoCon I've ever had”
    — Heather (04:42)
• Instead, they enjoyed VIP dinners, helicopter rides, illusion shows (waiting for David Copperfield to clear the stage), and exclusive parties.
• Highlight: Bottle service and confetti moments at Hakkasan with Heather’s name (“Juicy Scoop”) running around the club, and pop star energy with 3,500 people packed in.
• Heather on the “perfect” BravoCon: “By not attending and just having beautiful dinners and helicopter rides and VIP all the way... that has been the best way.” (05:06)

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Star Sightings & Vegas Nightlife

• Thursday: Dinner at Craft Steak, then Margaret Josephs’ Sip Sip Soiree (gift bags, Joe Gorga being delightful, MJ from Shahs of Sunset saying Heather "caused" her divorce, impromptu stripper appearance).
  • Heather on MJ:
    “She said that I caused it, basically. It was the weirdest thing. ...You and I went through the divorce together. I'm like, what?” (18:07-18:45)
• Friday: Headlined the Juicy Scoop live show (performing a new parody song), then wild partying at Hakkasan with Kyle Cooke DJing, and afterpartying with Summer House cast members.
  • Julie describing the Hakkasan scene:
    “Heather's name in Juicy Scoop is going around, like, the stock market, like, around the whole entire club... I'm like, oh my God. It's like we're with Elvis.” (12:17)
• Saturday: “Beauty & Essex” dinner (“perfection”—steak, grilled cheese and tomato soup dumplings), followed by a glitzy steak dinner at SW with the CEO of Cameo and Bravo personalities.
  • Brandy on Beauty & Essex:
    "It was truly one of the most perfect meals I've ever had. For real. And it's every bite." (26:46)

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Behind-the-Scenes Tea: Bravo, Cameo, and the Business of Reality TV

• Hanging in the Cameo suite (and the CEO’s messy bedroom), learning about the business of personalized celebrity videos:
  • Cameo’s biggest Bravo earners: Sonia #1, Luann #2.
    Sonia didn’t do "The Traitors" because Cameo earnings paid too well. (41:12)
  • Surprising former top-earner: Gilbert Gottfried, due to his iconic voice. (41:47)
  • Heather on celeb Cameos:
    “I would only want a celebrity that would give me one that actually knows who I am.” (34:05)
• Notable dinner guests included Xzibit (Pimp My Ride), Southern Hospitality cast, and hot TikTok influencers.
  • Banter about stealing lobster tails and documenting the “seafood tower” for absent friend Peter.
• CEO of Cameo says picking up the check is the real flex of being rich:
  • “The best thing about being rich…is just picking up a meal…people remember it and they appreciate it.” (39:31)

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Housewife Encounters & Pop Culture Debates

• Delilah’s Nightclub: Glam Great Gatsby vibes, late-night performance by Sheena (“Good as Gold”), photobomb sessions with Gretchen Rossi, Kiki from Real Housewives of Miami flirting with Julie and Brandy.
  • Julie on Kiki: “I go, I love her arms so much…let us see your arms. And then she takes her jacket off and shows me her arms…” (52:29)
• Met and posed with Lisa Barlow and Meredith Marks (Salt Lake City), Lisa “awwing” over being touched in a photo.
  • Julie: “We love Lisa Barlow, Julie and I, so deeply. And I reached over and I was like, I want to touch Lisa…” (45:31)
• Saw OGs like Carol Radziwill (not returning to RHONY), and discussed Real Housewives of Orange County (Vicki’s surprise return, Shannon’s diminishing storylines, pay and grifter culture behind the scenes).
  • Heather on OC shakeups:
    “They handed Vicki her orange, meaning she can come back for season 20. Thank God. ...But as a business woman, I think it's unfortunate… I hope they pay her what she deserves.” (55:01)

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Bravolebrity Scams & Grifter Stories

• Expose on a "grifter" Real Housewife who promised a friend seven complimentary rooms for BravoCon—none materialized.
  • Heather on Bravo grifting:
    “Nobody's giving extra free rooms to a real housewife that's barely on the show… If that didn't prove that she was...” (81:06)
• Relates to past experiences chasing around fake tickets and guest lists at events like Coachella and Stagecoach.

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Housewives News & Franchise Updates

• RHONJ: Teresa and Joe Gorga reunited off-camera at the mausoleum (after years of feuding); mutual support from wives; speculation on what’s real and what’s for storyline.
  • Heather: “Their relationship…was obviously torn apart because of fame and the show.” (65:00)
  • Melissa praised for being a ‘saint’ in keeping the family together for the cousins. (67:11)
• Spinoffs and Shakeups: Dolores is on the new Real Housewives of Rhode Island (first Bachelor-to-Housewife, Ashley “I”).
• Cult of Mary Cosby docuseries coming in January.
• Beverly Hills: Rachel Zoe joining; questions about alliances and drama potential. Dorit and Erica Jayne’s friendship is ending; Camille Grammer potentially returning.
• Speculation: Andy Cohen teased a possible "Ultimate Couples Trip" show.
• Ozempic/weight loss culture: “This should be called Ozempicon. All the housewives…so thin.” (44:27)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Heather, on BravoCon:
  “This is my fourth. And by not attending and just having beautiful dinners and helicopter rides and VIP all the way…that has been the best way.” (05:06)

• Julie, entering Hakkasan:
  “[Heather’s] name in Juicy Scoop is going around, like, the stock market, like, around the whole entire club... It’s like we’re with Elvis.” (12:17)

• Heather, on attempting to snoop on David Copperfield’s magic secrets:
  “I could not walk on stage or anything until like, literally 10:05, because they have to make sure that we don’t see anything. None of us ruin the illusions.” (02:43)

• Heather, recounting her favorite kind of BravoCon:
  “No, we haven’t been to BravoCon. And it was the greatest BravoCon I’ve ever had.” (04:52)

• Heather (on MJ, Shahs of Sunset):
  “She goes, well, we’re going through it together. I go, oh, you mean you and Tommy are on this same page? That’s nice. And she’s like, no, you and I went through the divorce together. I’m like, what?” (18:07-18:45)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Vegas Weekend Unfolds/BravoCon Philosophy: 04:50 – 05:10
• Live Juicy Scoop Show Recap: 07:45 – 08:35
• Hakkasan Confetti & Kyle Cooke DJ Party: 09:55 – 13:16
• Thursday Soiree & MJ Drama: 17:08 – 21:44
• Friday: Beauty & Essex Dinner / Cameo Suite: 26:30 – 34:05
• Big Cameo Money / Top Earners: 41:12 – 41:32
• Delilah’s & Star Sighting Stories: 43:18 – 47:23
• Kiki from RHOM / Housewives Flirting: 49:13 – 53:08
• OC Casting and Vicki’s Return: 55:01 – 58:21
• Grifter Housewife Exposed: 81:05 – 82:39
• Teresa & Joe Gorga Family Reconciliation: 64:59 – 68:23
• RH Rhode Island Announcement: 72:15 – 73:55

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Conclusion & Takeaways

• The Juicy Scoop crew crafted their dream BravoCon by skipping the chaos, embracing Vegas excess, and deep-diving into exclusive Bravo and nightlife experiences.
• They emphasize how the real “juice” at BravoCon comes from social connections, exclusive access, and spontaneous encounters, not panel discussions or convention floors.
• The episode is heavy on inside jokes, self-deprecation, and unfiltered gossip, giving listeners a taste of what it’s like to be on the inside of pop culture fandom at its peak.

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Where to Watch/Follow

• Juicy Scoop Live Show Replay: heatherbertel.net > Tour > Moment House
• Brandy & Julie (Dumb Gay Podcast): Available wherever you listen to podcasts, with additional content on Patreon
• Social: Follow all for more behind-the-scenes, travel, and Hollywood/Bravo tea.

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Transcript

[Heather McDonald]

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[Julie Goldman]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Julie Goldman]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Julie Goldman]

Listen in. Listen up.

[Heather McDonald]

Hannah McDonald, juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. It is a Vegas edition with our girls, Brandi Howard, Julie Goldman, stars of Dumb Gay podcast and the stars of the show this weekend of the live Juicy Scoop. We are doing this in our hotel room at MGM grand on Sunday. We still have another night. Welcome girls.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. Why are we in Vegas so many nights? Heather?

[Heather McDonald]

Well, we were supposed to leave today but then yesterday we got the opportunity to go on a helicopter. So we're going to do a helicopter tonight. And then we're like why not we when we were doing the show for so we're doing at the David Copperfield theater and they said we normally never do a show after David's two others his shows. Illusion shows. Right?

[Julie Goldman]

Illusion.

[Heather McDonald]

But they wanted the Heather Juicy Scoop show. So I was like fine, we'll do it at 10, we'll do it right after. So we could. I could not walk on stage or Anything until like, literally 10:05, because they have to make sure that we don't see anything. None of us ruin the illusions. So then we're going to go on the helicopter tonight, then we're going to go see the illusions.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Julie Goldman]

Can I just say?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

While we were doing like the. The sound check.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Julie was of course, not paying attention and she was like, looking at all the tape on the ground for David Copperfield and asking the people, like, so what's David doing? And she was so obsessed with David Copperfield's show. So we're gonna hear the whole thing.

[Heather McDonald]

They're excited to give us.

[Brandi Howard]

So I can't wait to see the show.

[Heather McDonald]

And then after that, we are going to Delilah's, which we went to last night for a dinner and a show, whatever, at like 10 with Eric and Tom, who've been with us the whole time, who do my pr, and they're just so funny.

[Julie Goldman]

And so I'm thrilled. We were, you know, buzzing very well. It was like one in the morning when we got to Delilah. Big Bravo party. But I'm glad because we won't. Julie and I won't really remember. Cause, like, I'm like, oh, I want to experience it for the first time tonight because Delilah is like a whole thing.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. Yeah, Delilah's, when we go at 10, they'll do like a kind of like a Great Gatsby type of show. But when we were there last night, which was like after 12, she. There was a DJ and then Sheena actually got up and sang. Remember that?

[Julie Goldman]

Amazing. And.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my gosh. Should we just start from the beginning of the weekend?

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, let's just.

[Julie Goldman]

We have sent it very hard.

[Brandi Howard]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

You know, that's what Kyle says. Kyle says send it.

[Brandi Howard]

When he gets drunk and stuff on.

[Julie Goldman]

Summer House, he's like, let's send it.

[Brandi Howard]

Let's.

[Julie Goldman]

Let's send it.

[Heather McDonald]

And I.

[Brandi Howard]

And we did. We sent it. We're sending it.

[Julie Goldman]

We're.

[Brandi Howard]

We haven't currently sending.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, well, we've had.

[Heather McDonald]

We've had so much fun. We have not even gone near the convention center.

[Brandi Howard]

No, we haven't.

[Heather McDonald]

We had no complimentary tickets at all.

[Julie Goldman]

We haven't been to BravoCon.

[Heather McDonald]

No, we haven't been to BravoCon. And it was the greatest Bravocon I've ever had. This is my fourth. And by not attending and just having beautiful dinners and helicopter rides and VIP all the way.

[Brandi Howard]

VIP all the way.

[Heather McDonald]

That has been the best way.

[Julie Goldman]

Also is the best New Year's Eve I've ever had, which was after your show. I'm like, you know what? I'm never doing another single. New Year's Eve confetti is raining on you. You're dancing, and we're in a booth. Sparks are shooting out of, like, V bottles.

[Heather McDonald]

And I'm like, so wait, you're jumping ahead.

[Julie Goldman]

I know, but I just wanted to say it was additionally the best so far.

[Heather McDonald]

I've done Vegas, you know, many times. Not the first time I ever experienced bottle service was with Ted Harper and Chelsea here in Vegas, because I kind of missed that time. It didn't exist in my 20s, in my 30s, I had little kids so that I was like, oh, my God. And I remember, I'm like, ted, how do I give you money for this? I mean, not only was she performing, but he was the president of E. And I'm like, can we split the bill? Like, I did not know. So anyway, I've done a lot of fun Vegas situations. And the first time I performed a headline, it was this show called Lipstick, and it was at the Venetian. And they did, like, a series of female comedians, and they would pair two headliners together. So the first time I did it, it was Eliza Schlesinger and myself. And they were like, you can have. You can go to the nightclub Tower, whatever it was, and you'll have a table there. And you, you know, and I'm like, oh, can I also have a cabana in the day? And you, you know, could bring some people. So we actually brought Jenny Poulos.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

And her husband.

[Brandi Howard]

Wow.

[Julie Goldman]

And wait, they were already married.

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Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Or remember, they were dating.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, the first husband.

[Heather McDonald]

No, the second husband.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

I thought Lipstick, the current husband.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And then Shannon and David Boutor.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, wow.

[Heather McDonald]

And then we. And then at this other couple that we, you know, from school and stuff, that they were fun. And then we. After the show. After one of the shows. Cause I had a show each night. So the first night they came. The next night, they went to, like, Rock of Ages. And then we went and met Jill Zarin and Bobby Zarin, rest in peace. At the. At the big Ferris wheel where you go in there. It's like a bar that had just opened, and, like, paparazzi was there. Jill knows how to do it. And then we took all these photos and that. So that was a really fun time. Then other times always had fun. You guys have done some shows with me here, but this is by far the most seamless fun. Best show ever was last night. It was Friday night, and you can still stream it Until Friday. So you could still have three days to watch it if you guys want to watch it.

[Julie Goldman]

So that's the Juicy Scoop show.

[Heather McDonald]

That's the live Juicy Scoop we did on stage. Julie is an accomplished guitar player. Brandy took years. I think you went to Juilliard for the tambourine.

[Julie Goldman]

And then I went to Berkeley. Berkeley school. Oh, right.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, right. I was just gonna say Berkeley School.

[Brandi Howard]

Of Music for tambourining.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Brandi Howard]

It's percussion tambourining.

[Heather McDonald]

And I, of course, am a singer. Oh, so we. Vocalist. Yes. So we do an original. It's not. It's kind of an original. It's a parody song that I did, and we are going to go all the way with it. Derek wants us to do a music video.

[Julie Goldman]

We've. We've. We also. We did.

[Heather McDonald]

We also have a photo that was the COVID of the album at the nightclub.

[Julie Goldman]

So we are going to do some extra releases of singles. Like Taylor Swift.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

Of, like, side photo shoots we've done.

[Brandi Howard]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, right.

[Julie Goldman]

But the main cover of the album is in the can.

[Heather McDonald]

When we were singing, I was like, I'm just channeling Stevie Nicks.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, yes.

[Heather McDonald]

When she is singing, what's the song that she's singing to the guy? Because they used to. You'll hear My voice will haunt you.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Brandi Howard]

Shannon.

[Julie Goldman]

No, no, no. You know Silver Spring?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. No, it's not Silver Spring.

[Julie Goldman]

It isn't. Well, it's whatever. That's how we're Julie and Heather. It was like, get a room, you two. They were fucking. Doing eye contact, doing guitar.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. I wanted to be like that viral moment that. Whatever that thing is. It's very viral. Look up Stevie Nick's viral song on stage.

[Julie Goldman]

You don't think it's Silver Spring?

[Heather McDonald]

No, it's Drake. Will you just look up viral song with Stevie Dicks on stage?

[Julie Goldman]

Because I love the one, too, with her ex.

[Heather McDonald]

Because they used to date.

[Brandi Howard]

She wrote it for him.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, they used to date. And then when they're. When they're doing it, it had been years, but the song is basically like, My voice will haunt you for the rest of your life, no matter who you're with.

[Brandi Howard]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

What do you want me to look up?

[Heather McDonald]

Look up Stevie Nicks.

[Julie Goldman]

My voice will haunt you.

[Heather McDonald]

My voice will haunt you song on stage.

[Julie Goldman]

I love the one. I'm getting older, too.

[Brandi Howard]

Landslide.

[Julie Goldman]

A landslide. Maybe it's that.

[Brandi Howard]

It's not that. Because she sings to him and she says, my voice is gonna paint you forever. And they sing together.

[Heather McDonald]

Then we go, okay, first we go to Hakkasan for dinner, which they.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, my God, So long.

[Heather McDonald]

They wanted us to try everything. And the food was fucking amazing. But that's what you want to do before you get into secret stress, is eat so much incredible Chinese food. It was the dumplings, this. Oh, my God. And it's a beautiful restaurant. I highly recommend going to Hakkasan. And then after the show, we had. You know, we went right over to Hakkasan, where Kyle Cook was DJing. But we got to our table before he. And the. The guy that helped with these reservations, he is a juicy scooper, too. He goes, just text this person when you're ready to come in. So we come in, and we were in the elevator, and we're like, oh, thank you so much. I walk in, and my Juicy Scoop logo, my face, the red dress, the name Heather gives us the Juicy Scoop. Going around. The girls are with the bottles, and then I get there, and all this confetti comes down. And it was. I just said, this is how it ends.

[Julie Goldman]

Honestly.

[Heather McDonald]

Honestly, it. Just admit my. We're going helicopter later.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah. Knock on. Oof.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, at least we'll all be. You're like, hope I don't die. And I go, at least we'll all be together. Because if. If one of us didn't go, you'd literally have FOMO.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

About what we're doing in heaven, she.

[Julie Goldman]

100% texted, let's all just go together. So none of us have fomo. And it's like, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Hear it? You want me to play a video? Yeah, just.

[Julie Goldman]

Just me. Hear it?

[Heather McDonald]

Maybe, like, scooch to the middle. Like, sc. Like, go just a little bit forward. No, can you go a little forward?

[Julie Goldman]

It's Silver Spring.

[Brandi Howard]

It is silver spring.

[Julie Goldman]

It's 100 silver spring. First one I said.

[Brandi Howard]

Yep.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Told you.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. It is Silver.

[Brandi Howard]

Brandy.

[Julie Goldman]

Got it. I know.

[Heather McDonald]

And the sound of my voice will haunt you. Anyway, so we had such a blast. Kyle, excellent dj.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, my God, I loved all the.

[Heather McDonald]

I felt like I was, like, at a Calvin Harris thing, and I'm not like, a big. You know. Again, DJing was invented, like, after I had kids and like that, you know? But it wasn't like, techno every. He parlayed all the best songs together, and we just danced all night.

[Julie Goldman]

They were dance dance remixes of popular songs.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

We. When we walked in, Heather's name in Juicy Scoop is going around, like, the stock market, like, around the whole entire club. The club fits 3,500 people, and her name is in lights around the whole Thing and people are screaming and I'm like, oh my God. It's like. Like we're with Elvis. It was so great. We go in, we're going through the whole club. People like, yeah, Heather. And everyone's like, give us the juicy scoop. It's like this thing and lights and the confetti and he. The one of the first songs we heard was like Love Story, Taylor Swift remix with the dance beat and it's like nothing. We are basic bitches. We like pop music and it's like we want Taylor Swift.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. He was playing all the good. Like Rihanna. Like all. It wasn't a song. I didn't know it was so good. And then we saw the. Some of the summer house people come. We saw Carl.

[Julie Goldman]

We saw Wes.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Brandi Howard]

Jesse.

[Julie Goldman]

Jesse. They were all in the booth, all there with him.

[Brandi Howard]

Just putting. Kyle Dixon, hot dog, sunglasses.

[Julie Goldman]

Heather, Heather. Heather.

[Heather McDonald]

Everyone's screaming and there was some juice about Carl.

[Brandi Howard]

Woo, girl.

[Heather McDonald]

Can we save that? I'm going to save it for the Patreon.

[Brandi Howard]

Okay.

[Julie Goldman]

That's got to be behind the payroll, honey.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, okay.

[Julie Goldman]

Keep it behind the paywall.

[Heather McDonald]

That is so. We had so much fun though. It was just. That was a blast. Somehow managed to get home security walked me home with and Derek and Tom and left.

[Julie Goldman]

Joe, by the way, abandoned us.

[Brandi Howard]

You left us?

[Heather McDonald]

But you said Jacques walked you back.

[Julie Goldman]

Jacques. But I love that. It's like somehow Heather's just gone and we're like, wait, we can't see out of our eyes.

[Heather McDonald]

But I did go to the DJ booth and got a photo with Kyle and saw Tom Sandoval.

[Brandi Howard]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And I didn't see any of the girls or anything. And then someone was like, no, Lala was there. And I'm like, that. It just sounds so. Not like Lala to be up at 2am this old. Yes, not. But I was like, oh my God. Like, why are you not. So I wrote her and I'm like, I'm here at Hakkasan. You're here? Where are you? And she didn't write back. And then the next morning she's like, no, I'm in bed. Like, what are you talking about? And she's like, and what is. What is haba dabba lobba dub like? Cause I was like writing it, of course.

[Julie Goldman]

That old chestnut.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

She's like, no, she's like. I go, oh, I thought. I thought they said that like Valley Vanderpump people were there. But it wasn't. It was the summer house people.

[Julie Goldman]

Basically.

[Heather McDonald]

It goes like this.

[Julie Goldman]

Like we get to Vegas. And you skipped over Thursday. But we're not gonna send it too hard.

[Heather McDonald]

No, we're not. We'll talk about Gordon.

[Julie Goldman]

No, but I'm saying we're not gonna send it too hard until the show, so. And I drink a lot. Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Thursday was a pretty tame night.

[Julie Goldman]

So we're trying to not not drink. Not drink. Not drink. And. And we.

[Brandi Howard]

We aren't.

[Julie Goldman]

And we're being cool and being classy and we're gonna do the show and being prepared. Practicing song. We're doing song rehearsal.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

We're laying down the tracks.

[Heather McDonald]

So then we had to make up.

[Julie Goldman]

For it at the house. Yeah. So the minute the show's over, we behaved as if it was our 21st birthday.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

And New Year's Eve. Right before the end of the world.

[Heather McDonald]

Absolutely.

[Julie Goldman]

And we just sentence like it was 1999.

[Heather McDonald]

Rest in peace, Prince.

[Julie Goldman]

And then we were having to be escorted back on like I I stretchers.

[Brandi Howard]

And none of us remember how we got back to the room. I don't know how we got back. Jacques said he got. Somehow got us back. I know that Brandy told. I woke up in another outfit.

[Julie Goldman]

Julie put on a different set of clothes for bed.

[Brandi Howard]

Somehow took off my clothes and put on other clothes.

[Heather McDonald]

Going out, I managed to hang up my new blazer. Yes. Which a lot of people are asking, who makes your blazer? It's sink Accept is the company. And then I had this sequins dress I think is from like Boo Boo or something. Anyway, so I managed to hang up that jacket. And then I woke up in the closet here, which is a big enough closet to sleep.

[Julie Goldman]

Took a little nap. Took a little nap in the closet. And by the way, you did say you weren't sure which closet you were in because many of Heather's closets are quite large. Her closet's probably bigger than our hotel room here. But like just took that nap that you got to do after hanging in the blazer.

[Heather McDonald]

But it was like 3:30. And you know what? Always after a crazy night, especially Vegas, you just check. Do I have my phone? Yes. Did I bring home my purse?

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then after that, you can just sleep. So then I was like, okay, I waking up. I was like, I have a little sleep. Where's that little sleep?

[Julie Goldman]

There it is.

[Heather McDonald]

But our tv. My TV has been on in the living room, which is. This isn't a huge room. The living room is right there. That tv, I haven't been able to turn. Oh, this is a skinny girl confidential.

[Julie Goldman]

She did wash her Face, though, even.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, I always wash my face, no matter what.

[Julie Goldman]

I love that about you.

[Heather McDonald]

Even before I went into the closet, I washed my.

[Julie Goldman]

I haven't washed my face since we got here.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, this.

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[Heather McDonald]

So let's talk about Thursday. Thursday we go to. We went to dinner here at the hotel Craft Steak. And we shared a tomahawk steak, the four of us. And then delicious. And then Drake got us an Uber, which is like, this place is so crowded. It's so crowded just to go across the street because we were going to Caesar's. It's like she had to go through, like, four different parking lots. And, like, it was, like, so crazy. And so we get there and we go to Margaret's soiree party.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, that's right.

[Heather McDonald]

And. And we all got gift bags.

[Julie Goldman]

We did.

[Brandi Howard]

We sip. Sip soiree.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, we did it.

[Brandi Howard]

And we saw a bunch of people there.

[Heather McDonald]

We did.

[Brandi Howard]

We saw Joe Gorga.

[Heather McDonald]

We saw. Joe Gorga was a total delight.

[Brandi Howard]

Delight. Melissa showed up.

[Heather McDonald]

We took some great photos with them.

[Brandi Howard]

Nice.

[Heather McDonald]

And, yeah, we saw. We saw. Who else we saw? God, I can't remember.

[Brandi Howard]

There wasn't really.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, we saw MJ right now. She's on the Valley Persian style or something. And anyway, I said, you know, hello and congrats on the show coming back or the new version of it or whatever. And I said, and I'm sorry to hear about your divorce, but, you know. And then she said that I caused it, basically. It was the weirdest thing. And she goes, well, we're going through it together. I go, oh, you mean you and Tommy are on this same page? That's nice. And she's like, no, you and I went through the divorce together. I'm like, what? She goes, never mind. I go, what are you talking about? I'm not going through a divorce. I don't get it. She goes, don't you remember that night that we went out? We went out with Megan Weaver and GRIFTA, like, in 2021, literally four years ago. And we went to Craig's because Griffa said she could get us into, like. What is it? What is the eating place? Not the Colony, the cabanas. What's it called? That. It's a private dining, eating. That's like. It's an old hotel. The Bungalows. The Bungalows.

[Julie Goldman]

The Bungalows.

[Heather McDonald]

She said she knew Justin Bieber's, like, managers. I don't know, some grifter thing, and that she could get us into there. And then that day, like, the guy wasn't calling her back. So I'm like, all right, let's get into Craigslist again.

[Julie Goldman]

That old chestnut. Oh, I know. Leonardo DiCaprio. He's gonna get us in. You know what? He's not calling me back. It's funny. You know what? Let's just go Craigs.

[Heather McDonald]

You mean Lee?

[Julie Goldman]

I mean Lee. I mean Nardo. Nard isn't calling me, so can we just. Let's just go to Craig's.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, she couldn't get us into Craig's. I had to call Craig. Anyway, so we go, we have dinner. But Grifta had like. We had a driver wait there all night and we, you know, had. She had like a champagne bottle before. So anyway, we. We had a fun night and then we had to drop off each person. So first it was Grifted, then it was Sherman Oaks, then it was me in Woodland Hills. So I say goodbye to MJ in the car that's now going to take her to West Hills.

[Julie Goldman]

So it's basically Grift Megan.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Then you and Mercedes at the end. Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And everything was fine. I was like. I literally was like, you should try to buy a house here or something. So then. Because there was like a house across the street for sale. And then. And then her husband did the funniest rant on Instagram about like, oh my God, you know, with his New York accent. These girls with their coffee kletch. He like did some old expression and we all laughed on thought it was so funny. So now she's telling me.

[Julie Goldman]

Let me just tell you that he.

[Heather McDonald]

Never got over that night. And then that is what has gotten them this place of divorce four years later.

[Julie Goldman]

He never let it go.

[Heather McDonald]

That's what she claimed.

[Julie Goldman]

That's had fun.

[Heather McDonald]

That's exactly what does he let go of. I think they let go. They did. You know, they had a podcast for like three years and.

[Brandi Howard]

But what was he mad about that you guys laughed? He did the funniest thing you've ever.

[Heather McDonald]

Heard that we got. No, that did. She got buzzed or whatever with us.

[Brandi Howard]

I don't know. Oh, he couldn't get over that she got buzzed. Well, that was the only time she's ever been buzzed. We've never seen her drunk or up before, ever. It's crazy.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Remember at the Christmas party when she said Leah Black's house, and she said. And then they used that recording for that radio show that she hopes that I. That I'm the biggest whore here. The 27 year old virgin who's been married for 20 years the biggest whore here and that she hopes that I die in a fiery death car crash on the way home. But you know, everyone, Everyone thinks they can do. Stand up.

[Julie Goldman]

Heather. Stop causing people divorces. Yeah, we're here at BravoCon. That's what. Yeah, we're going around partying with people and getting them all divorced.

[Heather McDonald]

But. But she was still kind of sweet when she was saying it. She wasn't mean when she told me it was my fault. But. Yeah, I don't know. You know, it's like reality show Tourette's. She's been doing it for, you know, a third of her life. So I get it. You don't know when to like, was she kidding? No, I don't know because she, like, kept doubling down. I was like, what? When? Whatever. Who cares? So then let's see. Who else do we see? Yeah, it was. The rest of it is like, whatever. Yeah, it was fun.

[Julie Goldman]

It's all gotta go behind a paywall.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

All that.

[Julie Goldman]

The Margaret sip sip soiree just right.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I shared some of it on the Patreon that I dropped a special Patreon on Saturday.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay, good.

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[Heather McDonald]

But anyway, so it was fun. And then there was a girl that like got naked though. That was weird.

[Brandi Howard]

There was, there was like a stripper.

[Heather McDonald]

Impromptu strip.

[Brandi Howard]

It was very odd. We were talking and all of a sudden it was as if this person was launched from a cannon into the room through the middle of a window. And they were naked and then on their fours and their butt was.

[Heather McDonald]

And then I'm winning like drinks. Drake's memoir is just gonna be. So he's. I'm like, oh my gosh. And then I'm like, oh. And then. I mean, she was beautiful, but I believe that she was very muscular too.

[Brandi Howard]

Ah, yeah. Yes. Well, she was a stripper who's working her muscles.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

And she was working and she. She somehow like slithered around the floor. It just made. I don't know.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. I don't know if she was just excited, shocking or that was part of it. Like, I always think that's weird when house. Yeah. Like strippers and girls with pasties on. And like, I'm like, what?

[Brandi Howard]

I did wonder if she just sort of was like, just was. Did it on her own and just popped in and thought, let me see if I can't maybe drum up some business.

[Julie Goldman]

We couldn't figure out was it a guest who did it impromptu.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Or planned. Because it certainly wasn't on a stage or anything.

[Brandi Howard]

No. Either way, it was like, we're in Vegas.

[Julie Goldman]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

And then there was just like 30 people with their phone filming it. And I was like, I felt like I was like at the, like, oh my God. Is this on the set of the Accused?

[Julie Goldman]

Is this.

[Heather McDonald]

Like Jody Foster?

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[Heather McDonald]

Get off of. Let me help you.

[Brandi Howard]

Awful, awful, horrible. Anyway, so that was super fun though.

[Heather McDonald]

So we left. That was tame night. And then we. Let's see what else. Okay, then, then the show. We did all the show.

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[Heather McDonald]

We did the Hakasan we were talking about that then yesterday, we laid in bed, but talked on the phone all day to each other, like, just remembering things and all that. And then we.

[Julie Goldman]

After being carried the stretchers. Yes. And sleeping in the closet, I could not move.

[Brandi Howard]

I had already.

[Heather McDonald]

We had reservations for Beauty in Essex, which was excellent at Cosmo. That. Oh, my God, you guys. That's one of the thing we ordered. And it's like we all shared it, which, you know, I love.

[Brandi Howard]

It was truly one of the most perfect meals I've ever had. Like, for real. And it's every bite.

[Heather McDonald]

The steak was great. The little exciting appetizers. There's a. A grilled cheese and tomato soup dumpling. Like, you just take one spoon and just an explosion in your mouth.

[Brandi Howard]

It was. I told Drake last night, I said to him, drakey poo. I said, because now we know that that's his favorite restaurant. And I said, did you know that, Heather?

[Julie Goldman]

We switched it.

[Heather McDonald]

So, okay. Because we were going to his favorite restaurant because the cameo people invited me, invited us to a dinner at the Steak sw. Steak at the Win, which up until, like, the Beauty on Essex night, Drake said that was his favorite meal he's ever had in his life. The best steak he's ever had. So I said, okay, of course we've got to go to that. So because we were having two complete, huge dinners, I was like, can we move the Beauty in Essex up to 6? And so when we're ordering all this food, I'm like, Drake. He's like, I want the steak, too. And I'm like, but we're going to have a second dinner where we're going to go to a steak place. But we had everything, including desserts.

[Brandi Howard]

We couldn't stop because it was so good. It was so good. And I knew in my own mind, too. I was like, we're gonna be eating again.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, and our waiter, Jeffrey, was the cutest, most delightful. The drinks were amazing.

[Julie Goldman]

I do want to just say, like, everybody always wants to know in somewhere like Vegas. It's huge. There's so many fun things to do. And restaurants and hotels like, that is an absolute. Put it on your list. It's Beauty in Essex. It's a must do.

[Heather McDonald]

Beautiful restaurant.

[Julie Goldman]

You'll be flexing living photos because the service, the food, it's. It's a. It's. I'll never like Chip, Brianna. I'll never not do it again.

[Heather McDonald]

Dressed to the nines, having dinner.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

It was truly was one of the best meals I've ever had in My life and everybody. What I wanted to say is it was the perfect amount of food, too, because even those dumplings with the soup or whatever, it was delicious. And then you want to keep eating it, but you don't. You had the one. And then you move to the other thing. And then the other thing.

[Heather McDonald]

It was.

[Brandi Howard]

It was perfection. It was.

[Heather McDonald]

So then we go to the Wynn and we go to the Cameo Suite, and I did, like, an interview with this girl that was just interviewing Cameo talent. We met the owner of Cameo and how it came about. And did he tell you that story that he got the idea at a funeral? Like, someone sent a video for a funeral. And he was like, wait, this would be a great idea. And also he's like. I first started with sports people because I knew all these. These athletes, professional athletes that after playing for a couple years, were, like, broke.

[Julie Goldman]

Who said steph Curry? You. Did you say Steph Curry? Drake, love you. You're the best. That will. Whatever that was when we were at the dinner. I do want them to know, though, that it's the CEO of fucking Cameo, which is obviously huge. It's like we're at Shark Tank and we're in his actual suite, but a big suite for content. And there's the whole staff of Cameo. It's a whole thing. Celebrities everywhere. And he makes everyone go into his bedroom so Heather can do her interview. And we're now.

[Brandi Howard]

Shut the door, Shut the door, shut the door.

[Heather McDonald]

First of all, I didn't know that was happening. I thought you guys. I thought they were doing content in the bedroom.

[Brandi Howard]

They were doing a tiny bit. But when I tell you that we were in his bedroom with him and a bed that was not made, and there were about eight shoes, real hats. Yes. And we're all hanging around, sitting and standing in bed and whatever. And then he's in there with all of these girls and it was like this feels. And it was all great. It was all fine. Because the girls who worked there were great.

[Julie Goldman]

No, it was great, but it was all like.

[Brandi Howard]

We're all joking about it.

[Julie Goldman]

That it was.

[Brandi Howard]

We're in the bedroom.

[Heather McDonald]

Southern, hilarious star of Southern hospitality, which. That is a show I have not watched, but I'm going to.

[Brandi Howard]

We are.

[Heather McDonald]

This girl, what was her name? She is probably the most attractive, the most beautiful, flawless, natural looking, just stunning. Every little thing. Even her dress, the way that the necklace.

[Julie Goldman]

There wasn't a single thing that wasn't beautiful.

[Heather McDonald]

You know that she, like, works in finance and then is also on Southern Hospitality. Like, she is Such a winner.

[Julie Goldman]

We're gonna watch. First of all, we're gonna go back and watch Southern Charm, because the owner of the restaurant that they all work out on Southern hospitality is on Southern Charm. So we're gonna binge it, because we spent all night with those girls.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And they were so great. So then after that, we go down to the private dining room at the SW&Baller, and so the CEO is there. There's about how many people? 20. 20, 15. Oh, you counted?

[Brandi Howard]

I think because they told us.

[Julie Goldman]

And because Heather's taking us, we're not invited. So it's like, oh, it's like the guy from, like, Pimp My Ride. And then, like, Julie and I and Heather and, like, everyone go around and say, like, why?

[Brandi Howard]

You're famous.

[Heather McDonald]

We're with Heather, by the way. So the waiter comes over to the CEO of Cameo, and Brandy's like, oh, Heather likes to do the ordering.

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[Heather McDonald]

I'm done. I'm like, I think I'm gonna trust the guy to order for the table. And he goes, do you want. I'm like, okay.

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[Julie Goldman]

So you did do it, though?

[Heather McDonald]

No, no, no, I didn't. You didn't know he did it. And what comes wafting out? Two giant seafood. Yeah. Seafood platter. Three tier. Three tier.

[Brandi Howard]

And by the way. By the way, we were all sitting next to each other, and we were. We were sitting there all. Not. It's not a complaint. It's like. We're like, oh, my God, I'm so full from the other dinner and the other day. We're so good. I can't eat anything. And then a whole seafood platter comes out, and I'm like.

[Heather McDonald]

And I'm like, julie, get me that lobster tail.

[Julie Goldman]

Julie reaches over, grabs a double lobster. Lobster tail. And that's after Heather's sitting. We walk in. Julie and I were. We shouldn't even be there. But Heather's like. And we're so grateful to be there and so lucky. And it was so perfect. Heather leaves the two seats at the head of the table. I'm like, we're not sitting at the fucking head of the table. But so then I make Heather change.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I switched to the head of the table.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

With Julie.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. Then Julie gets the double lobster reached over.

[Brandi Howard]

I've got a huge shrimp.

[Heather McDonald]

There was steak and the sides, and it was delicious. But I still managed to not eat one piece of steak.

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[Brandi Howard]

Let me tell. Let me say this.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, oh, I don't think I tried that. That Kind of steak. I just had the fillet. So I'm like, what is happening now? It's like 11:32nd dinner.

[Brandi Howard]

But then you. Because we each tried a piece of steak, and you had the steak, and then there's the thing with a filet. But then after having the steak, you go, I think I want some more steak.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, we did.

[Brandi Howard]

And we did.

[Heather McDonald]

I did.

[Brandi Howard]

And I have we.

[Heather McDonald]

How can you not? And so then he goes, let's all go around the table, say who we are, what we do, and who we'd want a cameo from. So, like, a famous person you'd want a cameo from. So whenever anybody asks, like, who do you. Who's your person you want to interview? Or whatever, I always just remember me sitting, watching Oprah interview Madonna when Madonna had just had her daughter Lourdes, and she was in her, like, no makeup, kind of, like, more hippie. Anyway. And I showed, like, really pretty hair. And I just was like, one day I'll have a talk show and I'll interview Madonna. And so I always think about Madonna. But then I'm like, so. But I did. I said I would only want a celebrity that would give me one that actually knows who I am.

[Julie Goldman]

Can you guys believe when they asked when the thing was, who. What cameo would you want it from? Heather was, like, a huge celebrity. That's like, my biggest fan. Basically. They have to love me and, like.

[Brandi Howard]

Know who I am.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

They can't just be reading up the thing, like, so. And then that. What was great is what Brandi said because one of her greatest celebrities was actually at the table.

[Julie Goldman]

No, Julie did that.

[Heather McDonald]

Julie. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

So it. So the guy, the rapper, who. Who hosts Pimp My Ride, if you guys are familiar, which is a huge show on MTV for years and years and years. He's a big rapper. His name's Xzibit. He was there with his wife. So it gets to Julian. I mean, I literally, at this point.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm like, But his real name is Alvin.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes, Alvin. Because my real name was Alvin, I think.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, go on.

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[Julie Goldman]

At that point, I'm so nervous. I'm like, like, about to do your live show. I'm like, I should not have drank for two days before this. Because now I'm back at the live, juicy scoop. I don't want to be the center of attention. It gets to Julie. I'm like, what is this bitch gonna say? What is she gonna say? What is she gonna say? She's gonna steal mine. I wanna say Barack Obama. And Julie was so good. And Tell him.

[Brandi Howard]

I think. Well, well, because he was. He just.

[Julie Goldman]

He was sitting directly across from you guys.

[Heather McDonald]

At the other end of the table.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, he was at the other end of the table. And it was just like, I wanted to say something, acknowledge him in some way. And Pimp My Ride and mtv and he's kind of like an iconic, you know, from. From all some of our lives.

[Julie Goldman]

Let me say this.

[Brandi Howard]

So I just took a. Julie took.

[Julie Goldman]

A picture for Peter.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Of the food, right?

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Cause we're all just trying to make Peter upset.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, honestly, this weekend, it's everything Peter would die for. To talk to the guy from Cameo, to have the seafood towers, to have double dinners, and we're going on a helicopter. Like, I'm almost, like, feeling guilty.

[Julie Goldman]

And plus, we did miss Peter because we love when Peter's around. So Julie takes. We're like, let's make Peter feel like shit. So Julie takes the picture of the food, the Seafood Tower.

[Brandi Howard]

And I told him. I said, we missed you. Why aren't you here? And I told him we could be lezing around. And he said he wishes he could lezz around. And then he finally got back and he said, I wish we could lez around.

[Julie Goldman]

When she took the picture of the Seafood Tower with the missing double lobster tail that you two ate. Exhibit in the back goes like this and photobombs the picture. And it's so good. Fucking amazing.

[Heather McDonald]

We're gonna have all the pictures in the YouTube. So anyway, but so I told him, by the way, I heard from Peter's very good friend's wife saying, hi, I don't. I know you have your show in Vegas, but her husband apparently left the phone at our house. So I think Peter had a fun time. Probably a day of golf and playing pool to the point where whoever fell into an Uber left their phone.

[Julie Goldman]

And we can assume they had double dinners as well.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, okay. So sorry, what we're gonna say.

[Brandi Howard]

So then I basically, I wanted to acknowledge. So I just said, exhibit. Exhibit. So I just was like, whatever. Just said, you know what? We wanted to just acknowledge how great you are. And I'm very star struck to see you, and I'm so amazed. And I guess my cameo would be from you. And he was just, you know, don't spell that. I don't know. He was so cool. He had such good energy.

[Heather McDonald]

Really fun.

[Brandi Howard]

He had, like, such a nice, like.

[Julie Goldman]

And I. So then Drake said, steph Curry. We all basically just said, world, we're not famous. We're here with Heather. Sorry, she brought five people.

[Heather McDonald]

And then I only brought three people.

[Julie Goldman]

And then Drake said Steph Curry, which killed the room. Steph Curry is a super, like. Like the Michael Jordan of basketball. Right now. He's a California. He's on the Warriors.

[Brandi Howard]

And it.

[Julie Goldman]

It was perfect for the room. It was perfect to follow Julie exhibit. Loved it. Yeah. I said Barack Obama, which was also perfect, which is good. And then we. And then we basically didn't listen to anyone else's shit because we don't care.

[Heather McDonald]

Then we were. Then I was like, what more can I say? Shoved down my gullet, like, before this. And so then I ordered a glass of chardonnay. But then the CEO guy, Stephen, he got some very good red. So I just was like, I'll just have what he's having. So I kept having his good red wine. So then we go to Delilah's, which is where we're going to go.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay, let me tell that story. So basically, I'm sitting next to a, like, a Tik Tok influencer named Zachary.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. He's cute.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay, so he's a cute little. We don't. Julie and I don't do TikTok, but Heather, I recognize, has said that she spends five hours a day on TikTok, which she needs help with. But. So he was cool. And we're just, like, doing gossiping and whatever. And he's. And we had already known we were gonna go to a, like a big Bravo party.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

But we weren't. We're on the fence. Whatever. So he's like the beautiful models. And there's more than one that are on Southern hospitality. Like, who knew Bravo had some kind of. Like, there's.

[Heather McDonald]

They're like, all just. Just gorgeous.

[Julie Goldman]

Gorgeous. Because then those other girls at the other end.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, they're part of it. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

And then there's like, all these hot gay guys who were there with, like.

[Heather McDonald]

No shoes, and they were so humble. They'd be like, I'm on this, like, weird little show.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And it's fine if you don't waste your time watching. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

They're like, old people don't like it. I'm like, what do you think old is? They're like, 42. I'm like, neat. Okay. So the guy tells us, basically, Delilah and Heather is like, like, like drinking the, like, baller red wine.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Like, we're living. And I'm. I'm fanning out over the. All of the cameo people, but certainly, like, the CEO. I mean, for me, I Mean, I'm like, acting like Peter. I'm basically the surrogate Peter who's like, we're in the fucking room.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh. I fully interviewed him too, about being super rich, how his life's changed.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, God. What'd he say?

[Heather McDonald]

He said the. The best thing about being rich and the thing that goes the farthest is just picking up a meal. Just being able to always pick up a meal and doing it, and people remember it and they appreciate it. And he goes, the thing that they don't appreciate is tickets to, like, a game. Like, ticket. Like tickets to a show or a game. Because I go, you know what? I think it's because they think maybe you got them for free. Like that gift. That gift of whatever. Say it was a thousand dollars and you, an overage person, gives, here, I bought you, you tickets to that. They don't. They don't like, remember it or appreciate who gave them the tickets to the game. But a beautiful meal that someone that you enjoyed picked up is like, yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Because it's experiential too. Plus, with them, he was really the. I can't say enough. Like, that was really highlight. The Cami Cameo situation. And Heather was over there, like, drinking the red wine, like, doing the interviewing. And it was like, what are they talking about? And we're dying to know. And he gave us. He was so open.

[Brandi Howard]

He was really open.

[Julie Goldman]

And Cameo is a great.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. And then also in my little interview, she said, who? You know, she said something like, who do you think people should get besides yourself? Who should people get cameos from? And I said, I think Luann is great. I've interviewed her a bunch of times. I'm like, she's lived a life. She's very international, which is true. She gives good advice. And, you know, and she goes, you know, she's our second most successful, meaning they make the most of all the housewives on Cameo. And she goes, do you know who the first is? And I go, is it Sonia? And she goes, how did you know that? I go, because when I interviewed Sonia, she said she was asked to be on Traders, but she would have to give up a week of not doing any cameos. And she makes so much on Cameo that she didn't. It wasn't worth it for her to go on Traders.

[Julie Goldman]

Wow, wow, wow, wow. Jax makes a lot too. Jax is in the, like, top.

[Brandi Howard]

Wow.

[Julie Goldman]

He's not a housewife. But Jack's just.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

And they told us. This is a weird, interesting thing. They told us that Gilbert Godfrey was like.

[Heather McDonald]

He was like the number one before he died.

[Julie Goldman]

And then I asked what made it so, like.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

And they just said, I guess because he has an interesting voice. But you never know. Is it like, because they're. Because we. Julie and I will go through cameo. This is just a side note.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

And like, because we love Nick Sports and too, we'll look at, like, comedians that. And some of the. And it's like Teresa's famously hilarious too. Like, she'll be like, courtney, you have, you know, sickle cell anemia or whatever. And like.

[Heather McDonald]

No, her famous one is when she's like. So this is for Leslie. Happy birthday. And this is from your friend Camille. And she's sorry that you contracted chlamydia from having sex with your brother. Anyway, love, love, love. Like, she doesn't like, read a book before and realize, like, they're with her. It's hilarious.

[Julie Goldman]

No, it's great. It's so perfect. So then we like the Zachary. What was TikTok Zach? TikTok Zach tells us, like, okay, we're going to Delilah. The beautiful models from Southern Hospitality are going Delilah. So we're all going to go. And the thing is. And I said this on your live show. Live, Juicy scoop that I've been, you know, full on senior year, prom, barefooting it around Vegas like the trash I am. But I didn't, of course, want to do it amongst like the royalty of cameo. And we're walking and we do the walk of hell. The literal worst walk in Vegas is the walk between the Wynn and the fucking encore. And we've done it so many times. We've done it to go to Cipriani's.

[Heather McDonald]

But at least that hotel, the Wynn, is stunning.

[Brandi Howard]

Stunning.

[Julie Goldman]

But that walk is a walk between two huge hotels. And by the time, I mean, it was. I was damaged. I didn't take my heels off. My earrings were so heavy. My heels this morning.

[Heather McDonald]

I have band aids.

[Julie Goldman]

I have bandaids.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

I mean, were you. You were fine. Cause you have the Chanel's.

[Heather McDonald]

It was fine. Cause I had my. Yeah, my block heel Chanel shoes that are like the best. Anyway, so we get there and the guys are like, wait a second. And just then we see Lisa Barlow, Meredith. The rumors about the husband. She was with her husband Seth. And Lisa Barlow was with John. He was, you know, baby gorgeous. The original baby gorgeous. And they were lovely. And we got a great photo with.

[Julie Goldman]

Them, all four of them, which you already know, of course. But the husbands looked great.

[Heather McDonald]

They're cute.

[Julie Goldman]

I mean, they're like thin Seth has way Ozem parexic right now. He's.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't think so.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, he's so thin. He looks great.

[Heather McDonald]

But by the way, I mean, everybody.

[Julie Goldman]

At this should be called Oz Epicon.

[Heather McDonald]

All housewives, like, from, like, Gina to Erica, they are so fucking thin. If you watch them, like, on the carpet. Everybody has been on the Juice probably for the last four months leading up to today.

[Julie Goldman]

I was impressed.

[Heather McDonald]

It'll be interesting to see what they look like in, like, three months if they stick with it or, like, come back to, like, a more normal size.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. Well, I was happy that Meredith. We are huge. Huge. You know, Meredith and Lisa fans. We're newer to being on a Meredith fan, but we're so hardcore there now. But we're huge Lisa Barlow fans, and I was glad they were all together with the husbands doing the. Doing the support. Like, at this point, you guys. I mean, it was between midnight or one, and there were still out. They were all together. Nobody was in a fight. No, they all look great.

[Heather McDonald]

We covered that. We covered Real Housewives of Salt Lake City on the live show.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And we get. We spill some tea on that, and then. Tea. I hate that expression. Juicy scoop. We get some juicy scoop on that. And. Yeah, but they were all really nice. So then.

[Julie Goldman]

And she is one person that I. We took the photo, you guys, and, like, we love Lisa Barlow, Julie and I, so deeply. And I reached over and I was like, I want to touch Lisa. And I'm like, across Julie. I'm touching Lisa in the photo.

[Brandi Howard]

I'm gonna touch Lisa's arm. And she goes, aw. Like, Lisa went like that.

[Heather McDonald]

She went, aww.

[Julie Goldman]

Like, it's Gisele. It's Lisa Barlow. It's Stacey from Potomac. I was really excited to meet them. And Heather gets. Julie said this morning, we're recapping. She's like, heather gets it done. Like, you organized the cameo photo.

[Heather McDonald]

Do you remember? Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

And we all lined up with the girls from set. Like, thank God for Heather. Or it's just like, we love you. And they're like, bitch, get away. Like, thank God for fucking Heather. Like, we.

[Heather McDonald]

So we get into Delilah's. They were like, oh, sure, come on in. And lead. Also walking out was Carol Radziwell, who I've been texting with. And I said, are you joining the cast of Real Housewives in New York? And I want to say she was like, no. She certainly didn't confirm any of that.

[Julie Goldman]

So she didn't give any juice. Did she have the clip in bangs.

[Heather McDonald]

No, but I saw that Heather debrow went and had, like, hair with bangs. Like, maybe one of the Watch what happens nights. I think it was a wig.

[Julie Goldman]

Was it curtain bangs or was it that bangs?

[Heather McDonald]

No, it was like the. Either clip and bangs or. I want to say it might have been a full wig. How I like her, huh?

[Julie Goldman]

That's kind of unlike her.

[Heather McDonald]

Remember when she did the big mistake of having the bangs for her reunion? And then Terry saw it and he was like. And I remember one time I was like, oh, my God, your face was like. You were so unhappy with those bangs, Terry. And he goes, oh, my God. Why would you cover a beautiful face like this? So I'm like, I'm curious if he is into the bangs. But then I saw her, I think, do a panel. Maybe it was the next day. But it didn't look like she had the bangs. So I think that might have been either.

[Julie Goldman]

Just a wiggly, no shade to anyone. But I fucking hate clip and bangs with a passion.

[Heather McDonald]

I once bought some clip and bangs at, like, a mall kiosk. I just wanted to see what it would look like because I've never just. No, I've had bangs, but, like, the way my hair is.

[Julie Goldman]

I love your hairline.

[Heather McDonald]

My real house has a pickleball hat on right now.

[Julie Goldman]

You have a perfect hairline and.

[Heather McDonald]

But I don't have it. The bangs never worked like that. That chic, like, bang look that she had. So I put them on and I wore them to Chelsea lately one day, oh, my God. And all of a sudden, the way my desk would work is like, here was my desk, the computer. And then, like, it was like a long office. So people would walk by this glass door. My door was always open. And all these people keep coming by. And I'm like, what is going on? And Chelsea was like, everyone needs to go by Heather's office. Something, like, crawled on Heather's head and died. And I was like, all right.

[Brandi Howard]

That was it.

[Heather McDonald]

I just wanted to try it out. Never wore them again. Never did it. But I thought it would be, like, such a chic, fun, different look.

[Julie Goldman]

Well, I thought I saw Carol Headband did. She had a ponytail, but she wears things. Okay. I wasn't sure. You guys were over there talking. And we saw on our side.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Julie said, is that Kiki? And I'm thinking she's talking about Kiki, Monique and. Cause Keke's in the zeitgeist. And I'm like, no, that's not Keke. And she's like, no, Keke from Miami. And I'm like, wait, the model now? We watch Miami Housewives.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, so do I. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay. Okay. So it is Kiki. And I'm like. And you know Kiki on Miami, she. She dabbles in with the ladies. So I was like, julie, get out there. She's fucking. She likes women. And Julie's like. And so then Julie's like, does something weird. Just stands there. I'm like. So I'm like, kiki. Kiki.

[Brandi Howard]

Exactly.

[Julie Goldman]

So then Julie's like, doing some weird pose, and I'm like, look, a dyke's right here. So she comes over and then she's like, hey. And she's. She's fucking. It's insane, you guys. She's like. She's taller than you, Heather, which you and Drake are the two tallest people at Ozempicon. And she's so tall, long hair. She's in solid black. So chic. She has, like, the blazer that's just on the shoulders with, like, a bustier and, you know, her body. And I was just like. And she's like, oh. And she tells us. Tell them what she said about. She has a joke about Phaedra. Sorry.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, no. So wait, wait.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, first I have to tell you what happened when we walked into the Cameo Suite.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

First birth we see was Adriana. Adriana from. From Real Housewives of Miami. And right when we walk in, Derek, she's like, oh, hi. And Derek's like, oh, my God.

[Brandi Howard]

I was just.

[Heather McDonald]

What he told me this morning is that he. They were. They know each other. And they were like. He was texting. He's like, what are you. We're, you know, Are you at the Wind? Would you like to get a drink?

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[Heather McDonald]

And she goes, oh. And she writes it back. Oh, honey, I'm in bed. I'm so hungover. Literally, that's what she wrote when we were in the elevator. We walk into the Cameo Suite, and she's like, oh, hi.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, my God, that is hilarious.

[Heather McDonald]

Hilarious. So then anyway, she did look tired, and she was, like, going to bed after that. So maybe that's why she was like.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, I've had three different people be like, girl, I met New Kids on the Block. And then we run into them at the party. I'm like, sheena, I didn't know that.

[Heather McDonald]

She did this thing on stage before I asked her this, but I said, I gotta know who is the Haitian mortician? And she go. I go, is it a guy? She goes, yes, it's a man. And I said, why did she give her a coffee maker? She'd go. I go, because literally, he wanted something.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

She goes, yes, he wanted something in return for, like, fucking her. And she goes, oh, please. She's been, you know, engaged nine times to men. And then all of a sudden, she's, you know, in love with Martina. Sure.

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[Heather McDonald]

She's gay for pay is what she said.

[Brandi Howard]

Perfect. And we. We would concur.

[Heather McDonald]

But then I saw a clip of her on the. Doing the panel, and she gets up and she goes, I. This is a photo of the Haitian mortician or whatever, and. And she's showing, like, Gertie and the. The girl who's moderating it, and they're like, oh, stop. Put that away. Put.

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[Heather McDonald]

And then she shows it to the audience, and it's a photo of Phaedra. And so she thought, you know, she's been going to the Groundlings, too, with Heather Dubrow.

[Julie Goldman]

The other dude's trying to. Just doing the typewriter.

[Heather McDonald]

I just thought that was the funniest thing. And it didn't really go over, but, you know, she confirmed it is a man. And. And she was cool. She was fun.

[Julie Goldman]

Well, Kiki comes out with Julie at the pose and says, did you guys hear about the Haitian mortician?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

And because we're like, oh, we're huge fans. And you're so funny. Because Kiki is funny.

[Brandi Howard]

She is funny on Miami. She is really funny.

[Julie Goldman]

She says, you hear about the Haitian mortician? Tell him about.

[Brandi Howard]

And she goes, the Haitian mort. Did you heard about the Asian mortician? Like, no. Who. Who is it? She's like, it's Phaedra. And then she's like, no, but, you know, she's not even Haitian. I'm Haitian. So I know. I was like, a little bit like, no, it's not Phaedra. But she thought it was funny. And she thought it was funny. So then I asked her funny.

[Julie Goldman]

I go, I love her arms so much. Let's just. Then I was like, I just love your arms. Let us see your arms. And then she takes. Takes her jacket off and shows me her arms. I don't know why I am doing the arms.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, you like it?

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. You like the arms? Oh, you like my arms? Oh. And then she goes, what about my legs? And I go, yeah, no, Julie wants to see your legs, too. And then she pulls her. She's like, I think it was all.

[Heather McDonald]

Happening when I was talking to Carol.

[Julie Goldman]

Talking to Carol.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, okay.

[Julie Goldman]

And then when she Left. And we were just like, love you. Love you. And I was like, do something while you're walking away. And then she. And I'm just, like, sexually assaulting her for some reason. And then she, like, does a Runway walk all the way down the thing.

[Brandi Howard]

All the way down.

[Julie Goldman]

I mean, we are. We are beyond. I mean, we're in love with her at this point.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my gosh.

[Brandi Howard]

We're in a relationship. Yeah, we're in a three way.

[Heather McDonald]

So then right when we get in there, we see Sheena on the stage singing Good as Gold, and I see Gretchen. So I got some great photos with Gretchen. And.

[Brandi Howard]

And she was nice. We said hello to her too. And she was so nice.

[Heather McDonald]

She's always nice.

[Brandi Howard]

She was nice. And in case she's wondering, she did ask if we. She thought she recognized me from Amsterdam. But I just want her to know.

[Julie Goldman]

That you're not a lesbian who works Amsterdam.

[Brandi Howard]

Lesbian hooker in the. In the Amsterdam.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, at least she thought you were.

[Brandi Howard]

She said something and then. Listen, I was drunk and the music was loud.

[Heather McDonald]

That's funny.

[Brandi Howard]

But we. She thought we had. I. I said to her, we met before. And she said, I think we haven't. Did we meet in Amsterdam or something? Like d. No, it wasn't me in Amsterdam. I don't get that.

[Julie Goldman]

Or maybe she thought maybe I just.

[Brandi Howard]

Looked like someone She. I don't know. She couldn't have been more nice.

[Julie Goldman]

And I was like, honest with you guys. I. I do remember later in the night, I remember getting home. All of it. Although I was like, where did Drake go? And Julie's like, he was with us all the way to the end. I was like, oh.

[Brandi Howard]

She goes, but he wasn't in the elevator. I was like, nope, he was in the elevator.

[Julie Goldman]

But I do remember the end of the night. I don't remember ever seeing Gretchen. Was I there?

[Brandi Howard]

You were there.

[Heather McDonald]

No, I mean, I was just. I took a bunch of photos with Gretchen and talked to Gretchen and then we all took a picture together, like, after, like, so maybe you weren't.

[Brandi Howard]

She was there.

[Julie Goldman]

Was that when I was around to show you?

[Heather McDonald]

Don't.

[Brandi Howard]

No, she was there.

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[Heather McDonald]

The photo of you and me with Gretchen, it was also. Two fans are in the.

[Brandi Howard]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Two people we don't know. Yeah. Yes. I just went through the photos.

[Brandi Howard]

That's how I even was talking to her.

[Heather McDonald]

Drake has a lot of the photos.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

She was, like, taking them for us.

[Julie Goldman]

Because there was times I walked away to, like, go try to fight people.

[Brandi Howard]

Well, that's what's coming up.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I mean, here. Okay. So, you know, Real House with OC had big news. They handed Vicki her orange, meaning she can come back for season 20. Thank God. And she had no idea.

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And her.

[Heather McDonald]

Your podcast partner didn't know, which we all think it's great. But as a business woman, I think it's unfortunate because smart on Peacock, because now you have no negotiation. She's been saying, if they want me back, there's gonna be a lot of things they're gonna have to do. Well, now she's like, yes, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'm so happy to do it. And I'm afraid that they're gonna say to her, well, according to your contract on the 88th page that you signed in 2006, if there's a two year break between you being on the show as a regular, we go back to 60,000 a year. Like, I'm so afraid they're gonna fuck her that way. Cause the girls, you guys, these girls are getting nothing for the weekend. They have to pay for their own hair and makeup every day. They get their own wardrobes together. And if they say no, then they become a Jetta Lyons, who's no longer on the show. So it's like you cannot. I think the only person that's not here that was scheduled to go was the cute blonde girl from Southern charm, McCrory. What's her name? The pretty blonde?

[Brandi Howard]

Madison Lacroix.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, she got in a car accident.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, no.

[Heather McDonald]

If she hadn't gotten in a car accident, she'd probably never work again on Bravo. Like, you cannot skip it. So you don't have a choice. So, you know, there's a lot that they have to do and so they. Anyway, I hope they pay her what she deserves. And. And you know, there's so. And then, you know, there's a lot of rumors that, you know, there is. Well, listen, they gotta shake up the cast. They said there's gonna be a big shakeup on Real House foc. And that was after the Vicky news. So that was.

[Julie Goldman]

So they handed her the orange and then they said there's gonna be a big shakeup.

[Heather McDonald]

I think on another panel or something said it. And I mean, I think, you know. Yeah, I think, I think. And Shannon knows she's probably going to. So she's probably. Yeah, I mean, maybe that's why, you know, it's like she is rude to people and stuff. I don't know.

[Julie Goldman]

She's. Well, we know.

[Heather McDonald]

I think people are done with her shtick. Having two dogs is not an interesting storyline.

[Julie Goldman]

And I mean there was no storyline this season and I don't think we.

[Heather McDonald]

Need the Trace Amigas do it. I think we need to see Vicki and Tamara together. That'll be fun.

[Julie Goldman]

And I would say the one storyline she would have if they did keep keeper is the fact that the Trace Amigas broke up. But Bravo probably doesn't even want to mess with dumbass. Trace Amigas.

[Heather McDonald]

We're the Trace Amigos. Well, the live show is never coming back, so if you guys missed it, it's not coming back with the Trace Amigos. And. But maybe they'll all take Crownling's classes with Heather Duo and then they just.

[Julie Goldman]

Do a, you know, let's do quadruple Amigas.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

In.

[Heather McDonald]

Apparently Heather Duo and Luann squashed the beef. I'm like, what was the beef? That they both, both want to perform and sing.

[Brandi Howard]

I guess they're doing.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, you know what? Heather Dubrow did do us cabaret act recently.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, that's right. She was with Richard Marks.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, she was singing. So maybe it has something with like, you know, like Luann being like, I'm the only one that can sing and play the bongos.

[Julie Goldman]

I don't know.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know.

[Julie Goldman]

Well then she's gonna be mad at you, Heather.

[Brandi Howard]

I hope she doesn't start out she isn't mad at you.

[Julie Goldman]

Don't give her the spoiler for the live show. Yeah, yeah. Here's the deal. Straight up. If we weren't in bed, you would need to shuffle in and say, bye, Shannon. I think Shannon should go. I think I'm so excited for Vicky's return.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

There's no one funnier than Vicky and she doesn't even need the fucking groundlings. Yeah. Like Julie, tell him your favorite thing.

[Heather McDonald]

When she always goes, oh God, just tell them all.

[Brandi Howard]

Tell them that I died sad.

[Heather McDonald]

That is the best thing. I died.

[Brandi Howard]

Yeah, that is one of the.

[Heather McDonald]

That's because she broke up with that guy that was running for governor. Remember that? And then he married like a teacher, a 35 year old teacher like a week later.

[Julie Goldman]

But then she said it again on Girls trip.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

She said because she was depressed from another breakup and said, tell him I died sad.

[Heather McDonald]

She said somewhere or I heard that she's like, well, I've been with my boyfriend for four years and that's usually when people break up with me. So maybe she'll be single, which will be fun. Or maybe or not. But I'm wondering if she's saying that knowing that this boyfriend probably doesn't want to film. And so she's like, either he's going to film and we're gonna stay together, or, you know, take your bag of oranges and leave because I will not ever give up this show.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay. So even if she had a. Was dating someone because we know she loves love and they said they wouldn't film, you think she'd give up the relationship to do the show?

[Heather McDonald]

I think she'd say, oh, you know, if the next. Now she has the job. So if, like, if she felt like him not filming, like the producers were being annoyed by it. Yeah. I think she'd kick him to the curb.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, wow.

[Heather McDonald]

Because she's right from her insurance business and stuff. So she just wants to go back to just being, you know, just doing the show. That's it. That's a full time job.

[Brandi Howard]

Well, then we're gonna, we're gonna get the life insurance. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Julie and I are supposed to get life insurance through her. She's gonna sell the biz.

[Heather McDonald]

That's the rumor.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, well, we definitely gotta do it.

[Julie Goldman]

Well, I, like, can't stand fucking Shannon. And I'm here to put it out there. And I think she's a. I think she's rude to production. I think it's obvious. And I, and I, I get that she's can be funny and likable and she has been hit or miss and, and she's been nice to us in the past, but she's also been rude.

[Brandi Howard]

To us in the past.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

So. And we did interview her and she was not pleasant. And then she talked shit about us after she left the interview.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

As if we had done something to.

[Julie Goldman]

Her, which we didn't. And she's a miserable. Look, what the, the, the truth is.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, she. All the falling, you know, all the falling. It could be either a. That's her attempt at being funny, which I think pisses off Heather Dubrow. Cause Heather Debro, I think shaded her a little because that's. Heather Dubrow is the comedian. And Heather Dubrow doesn't have to do Pratt Falls. Okay. No, but she said she defended Gina on something and she said, you know, Gina works really hard. She, you know, everything she has, she's earned herself. And she goes. And she's one of the few housewives on our cast that actually owns her home. And I'm like, well, wait a minute. You own your home. Tamara owns her home. Emily and Shane own their home. Whether the parents help or not, that house is Not a rental. And so I'm like, katie, we know rents and we know that Shannon rents. So I'm like, I thought that was some shade. Like, I think she's done with this thing, too.

[Brandi Howard]

Interesting.

[Julie Goldman]

And Heather's a, you know, actress performer for like a million years. She can tell when somebody's performing when they're falling out of a boat. It's like, okay, you're fine in the.

[Heather McDonald]

Boat, or there is something wrong with you and you need to check it out.

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[Brandi Howard]

Oh God, it was so fun.

[Julie Goldman]

Wait, what night were we talking about?

[Brandi Howard]

We're talking about the night with. With when Shannon and Gretchen and the.

[Heather McDonald]

Other that are happening on the show. So Teresa and Joe, according to what they said, Teresa reached out to Joe. They met at their where their parents are buried at the mausoleum alone first. And she said I know that the four of us, we were first gonna get the four of us together. And she goes I just wanna be with my brother. And then they're on the red carpet and I think I like it was honestly so sweet. She's like fixing his jacket and they were so close and she is the older sister. And what I've learned from Italian American families that like especially east coast Italian, that's thing the older daughter is almost like a second mother, even if they're close. So I think their relationship, you know, was obviously torn apart because of fame and the show. And then, you know, and then I think there was a time when Melissa and Joe Gorgas said we love Louie. We're happy because he didn't. He and Joe Giudice didn't always get along. But then the pizza thing, they felt over by the pizza, right? Which was, you know, Joe, Joe Gorgo's idea to do a pizza business with Teresa that could call no no's pizza which would be like this little pizza oven that you like, get. And a subscription thing. And every week, every month, there's like, a new pizza where you get the dough and all that, which is a really smart idea. And there was something where they thought, you know, that Louis hijacked the idea. And they all of a sudden they woke up and they're like. Like, why are they doing a photo shoot with just Teresa and the. The daughters?

[Julie Goldman]

And they changed the name, too.

[Heather McDonald]

And then Teresa said, oh, my God. We just.

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Then.

[Heather McDonald]

Then they thought they were doing the right thing by just abandoning the idea altogether. So.

[Brandi Howard]

And that was their bunch of.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, she said.

[Julie Goldman]

She.

[Heather McDonald]

Teresa told me, like, that was Lou's money, and. And Lou lost all that money, but it was Joe's idea. So that is what started a big fight then. But, you know, she spoke very highly of Melissa. She said that they said, who do you think was most beautiful at the reunions?

[Julie Goldman]

And she goes, melissa, oh, my God, that's. I'm gonna start crying. That is amazing.

[Heather McDonald]

And then she's like, can you fucking believe that?

[Julie Goldman]

No, that's incredible.

[Heather McDonald]

So. And then Melissa, you know, posted a photo of all of them, and she's like, don't question it, just support it. And I do believe that Melissa is a saint in all of this because. Because she's had to, you know, it is her husband. It's, you know, she knows she's doing. She do. I feel like she's doing it. Hopefully she's doing it for herself as well, but she's doing it for her husband. She's doing it for the cousins, the kids to all.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, in a few years, they'll.

[Julie Goldman]

Be getting married because Antonia and Melania are the same age.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Like, the next 10 years, there's going to be engagements, there's going to be marriages, and it's so. And if this leads to them all coming back on the show together, great. But Dolores said, I'm happy, but I don't want to hear about it. I don't want to see it on our show. It's not a storyline. We are done. So I think whether it was told to them or not, or they figured it out on their own, or if it's truly organic that. That Bravo's like, we need you as makeup. Actually be good for, like, months before we ever consider having you guys all back on.

[Julie Goldman]

And you think that because of what Dolores said.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, that's what I thought. No, that's just what I thought the minute I heard that they're going to be. Be making amends, but they don't want it.

[Julie Goldman]

Dolores is basically saying, we don't want this as, like, the conflict.

[Brandi Howard]

Right.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

We don't want, like, that.

[Heather McDonald]

We don't like, oh, they're first meeting on camera because now there hasn't. They met off camera. They met alone. They're gonna have a nice time here. Bravicon together. So now everyone's refollowing each other. And, you know, that's always big news. I'm like, I don't understand why I said, like, you can always mute someone, like, so the fans don't know. But maybe that's a big message because. Because Jennifer Tilly said she thought it was awful that Garcelle stopped following them all. I'm like, why would Garcelle want to see you guys having fun and filming and partying when she's no longer part of it?

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Heather McDonald]

That is not healthy.

[Brandi Howard]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

And so. Yeah. But I mean, I've walked up to people at parties and said, I just want you to know, in case you didn't realize, I've blocked you and everyone in your family.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. So at that point, I want to say about. And she's not lying when she says that, because I think I've heard her. Told her she's black people's whole family.

[Heather McDonald]

Heather.

[Julie Goldman]

But I want to say, Elizabeth, we. We. Julie and I and I've tell the story a million times, but we worked with Teresa and Melissa at. At Melissa's home when Teresa just got out of prison through for a Bravo thing. And that was the season. My. One of my most favorite seasons. Melissa had that fucking JLo. Like, her hair.

[Heather McDonald]

She was.

[Julie Goldman]

It was her Jennifer Lopez era, and her hair was like a shorter. Like, not a bob, but a little long, a longer bob. She's so beautiful. They were getting along. When they get along, everything's the best. I think it's like what you said. The oldest daughter's the second mom. They were so, so close. And I know Teresa was obviously very, very jealous and competitive when he got in a relationship, which is like that thing, you know, that happens with mothers and sons when the son gets the high wife.

[Brandi Howard]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And she just didn't want them on the show.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, she didn't, and I don't blame her. And also, once. And also what you said about Louie, just in terms of Juicy Joe, which is Teresa's first husband, Joe Gorga had the same relationship with Juicy Joe that Teresa has with Melissa. They were so competitive. He was so jealous of Juicy Joe with his father. The father. And that's why they got in the Fight. So it almost was perfect when she finally got with Louis because Juicy Joe's, you know, deported or exported or whatever the. And so then they got Louis. And so. And I think it's, you know, unfortunate because it does kind of seem like we shouldn't be getting into business with Louis. Even though we like Louis then. I know the fans don't, but we do. He's. But I think it's pretty obvious nobody should be doing business with Lou.

[Heather McDonald]

But within the wedding thing happened and I think I said this to Melissa, I was like back when the wedding happened where they didn't go, I'm like, you just couldn't win with that. If you went. It would be like they're drawing attention. They're, you know, they're making about them if you don't go. Which I think, listen, weddings are a big deal, but at the same time it. Sometimes it is better that you don't go to a wedding if you're not in a good place. Because I thought they should have gone.

[Julie Goldman]

It's.

[Heather McDonald]

I think they should have gone too. But I also saw that like if we're not in a good place and. And you somehow think that we're not wishing you well.

[Julie Goldman]

But it's not just that they didn't go. Is that they filmed and then they filmed that party. But they're like, we're having our family over. And it seemed. That was what I thought was mean was that they had their own party.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, they should have just been chill.

[Julie Goldman]

You just have to go. You have to just go and be like we're in a fight.

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[Heather McDonald]

Like just like go.

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And.

[Heather McDonald]

And like even Margaret went. But she didn't stay long. But she went and she said it was awkward because she was, you know, really team Melissa and Joe at that point. But she still went because it was a wedding and you know. Yeah, it's.

[Julie Goldman]

I'm so happy they made up. I think it's a new era. It's like something to me, I'm using it as like a talisman of like the future. Like a positive. Like I'm so excited that they made.

[Heather McDonald]

Up other big news. Rhode Island. They dropped the trailer of the real houses of Rhode Island. Dolores is in it. And Dolores is in it. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

She's like a friend of right or.

[Heather McDonald]

No, she just. I think they just wanted one well oiled machine to like help bring it together. But I don't know how she's gonna stay on it or not.

[Brandi Howard]

And where in Rhode island does it say? Is it like Newport?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. Super wealthy younger people. Everyone looks more like their 40s and under.

[Brandi Howard]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And then Ashley I from the Bachelor is on it.

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[Heather McDonald]

Remember Ashley I and her cute husband and their cute baby?

[Julie Goldman]

No, but we were discussing it last night. So this is the first crossover of Bachelor to. Oh, yeah, Housewives. So she met her husband on the Bachelor.

[Heather McDonald]

She was a virgin going through the Bachelor. She did not get the guy. Then she was on Bachelor in Paradise.

[Julie Goldman]

And that's when she lost her virginity.

[Heather McDonald]

And then she.

[Brandi Howard]

With three different people.

[Heather McDonald]

No, then she, like.

[Brandi Howard]

She was a virgin.

[Heather McDonald]

She, like, met him or something. And then they were, like, just friends. And then they. Oh, that.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

This was it. They're friends.

[Heather McDonald]

And then she was dating somebody, and that's when he realized, wait a minute. Like, I like her and he's gorgeous. And so they're on it.

[Julie Goldman]

Is her real. Is it Ashley I let her.

[Heather McDonald]

Or it was just because it was like, Ashley Iverson or something like that, Whatever her last name was. But it was because there were, like, multiple Ashleys.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

So it was like she was Ashley I. That's what she.

[Julie Goldman]

That's cool. Kind of interesting.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Her and the guy. And they're wealthy.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know that they were that wealthy, but they live there and they're on the show. Yeah.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, that's cool.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I think they do fine, you know, But I don't. I don't. Maybe her family's rich. I don't know. But I know they have a coffee shop. They're big influencers. They now have two boys.

[Julie Goldman]

And now Nick Vile can finally be like, now I have a crossover between Bachelor Nation and Bravo Nation.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

So when is that coming out? Did they. They announce it?

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know the date, but I know that January 3rd or something is the. The cult of Mary H. Crosby or whatever.

[Brandi Howard]

Cannot wait. I can't wait.

[Heather McDonald]

The cult of Mary Crosby doc is dropping, like, January something. And they dropped the trailer on Friday.

[Brandi Howard]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

And that's on, like, TLC or something.

[Heather McDonald]

It's a TLC hbo, Max, though. I guess it'll come on TLC first, and then you can watch it on hbo.

[Brandi Howard]

Max.

[Julie Goldman]

There is some executive sitting somewhere, I'm just saying, who was like. I mean, Mary Crosby finally had evolved into, like, actually, like, one of the better housewives on Salt Lake City. Like, like, you know, common sense, the voice of reason. Funny. And now they just somebody. Some executives just like Bravo and just went and made this doc, and it's like, there's really. I don't see this Turning out well for anyone. I don't know that we come out of this documentary with anything but a feeling of, oh, she just.

[Heather McDonald]

Her word response was like, God is good. And then next week is like her. They all go to her church again. And, you know, she collapsed with her Chanel leather gloves.

[Brandi Howard]

Exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

That the pursers paid for. That's godlike. Okay, wait, what else was it? Some of the other things that happened before we wrap it up. Up. Erica Jane doesn't like. She. She said Camille and. And Lisa Vanderpump are dead to her.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, can I. I want to ask you a question. So Rachel Zo is on Beverly Hills.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Julie Goldman]

I want to know what you think. And Beverly Hills, we think, will come out like March or something. They're filming now, right?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, pretty soon, I think. So they showed the first scene or something at the. At the.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, they did?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Somebody filmed it and I didn't watch it and.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay, so we haven't seen that. Where do you think Rachel Zo is landing? Is Rachel Zo? Because you were going to say that Dorit and Erica are kind of in a little.

[Heather McDonald]

I. I heard that she doesn't bring that much drama to it.

[Julie Goldman]

But do you think she's with either one or she's just friends with everyone?

[Heather McDonald]

I think she's friends with everybody. And then Dorit and Erica have a big friendship breakup. And Dorit also said that PK Is the. The master of his own disaster. Cute rhyme. Great. And then she's open dating again. And then Dorit also said that she would want really Serena to come back as a full time cast member.

[Julie Goldman]

I bet she does. That makes me think that Rachel Zoe might be with Kyle and Erika Jayne.

[Heather McDonald]

Camille Grammer. Meyer. Meyer's her new last name. She's like, oh, best thing to say about my husband is I love all that Frasier money, as you know, I guess turn on Frasier, but he just had his eighth child with the wife that he married after her.

[Brandi Howard]

Jesus.

[Heather McDonald]

I like Camille Grammer. I feel I would love for her to come back, but Dorit doesn't want her come back.

[Julie Goldman]

Would you want Lisa Rinna to come back?

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Why the fuck not?

[Julie Goldman]

I am dying to see the Rachel Zoe dynamic, though. I really, truly am, because, you know, everybody's just intimidated. And Rachel's those stylist. She had already been ON Bravo for 20 years. Everybody's pulling out their maxi dresses and their block heels.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, Teresa said she'd like Jack Jacqueline to come back. No, no wrong.

[Brandi Howard]

Wrong road.

[Julie Goldman]

No wrong Road.

[Heather McDonald]

First of all, I thought she lived in Orange county now.

[Julie Goldman]

I thought she lives in Vegas.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, yeah. I don't.

[Brandi Howard]

Sorry.

[Julie Goldman]

I think she literally might live in Vegas.

[Brandi Howard]

Jacqueline and her.

[Julie Goldman]

If you're not gonna play this summer.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, choose that. I don't need some fourth.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Removed cousin from Caroline Manzo back on the show.

[Julie Goldman]

If you're not gonna play the girls trip with Brandi Glanville, you know, essaying Caroline in the bathroom, then we're not gonna deal with her 27th brother in law's wife on the show. We don't need.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, speaking of which, I predict a new show because they asked Annie these questions, and I'm sure Annie was. None of these questions were probably. He probably knew what they were. But anyway, maybe not. Not. And it was. What would be your ultimate couples trip. So I think there's going to be a new couples trip show. Ultimate couples trip, which is a.

[Julie Goldman]

That's a thing they do on Married to Medicine. And I will say, if you haven't watched Married to Medicine, start from the beginning. Binge it in a weekend if you're a binger. They do couples trips on Married to Medicine and Heather. It is fucking riveting. People will be getting divorced, getting back together, crying, they're going into the ocean. They're doing.

[Brandi Howard]

They do marriage encounter things. Now. My family. I don't know if you have. Have this at your church. Yeah. Called marriage encounter. Oh, yeah. Okay. And they also have family encounter. My parents did marriage encounter at the temple and then they made us do family encounter.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Brandi Howard]

Which means. And they do all this stuff on the couple's trips.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Brandi Howard]

And they will do it on marriage. They do. You have to, like, write your partner a letter. And it's a whole thing with, like, now you're dead and you're at the thing. There's a lot of writing things. You have to. They.

[Heather McDonald]

You hold hands with your own dad.

[Brandi Howard]

In front of everyone. They seat people together, facing them, and you have to do eye contact and then be like, do all communication exercises. They do all of that stuff.

[Julie Goldman]

So I think that show could be good. But I didn't like the c. The. His ideal cast. I wasn't feeling Heather. Wasn't it like, oh, the ideal cast.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, he said his last dinner or whatever.

[Julie Goldman]

No, I mean, it was a couple's trip first.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, the couple was trip boring, I thought.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Lisa and Joe. I'm sorry, Melissa and Joe.

[Julie Goldman]

And it was Phaedra and whoever Phaedra's with.

[Brandi Howard]

Right.

[Julie Goldman]

Whoever's.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, who's ever.

[Julie Goldman]

Portia.

[Brandi Howard]

Portia.

[Heather McDonald]

And then. Yeah. It wasn't. It wasn't. Oh, no. I don't know who the other couples were. His favorite girls to have his last meal with would be Vicki, Luann, Candy, Giselle, and Kyle.

[Julie Goldman]

Vicki, Luann, Candy.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, and Kyle said that when it comes to sexuality, she's opening up. She's open to it.

[Brandi Howard]

She's all. She's open. No. Now she's open to it.

[Julie Goldman]

Gay for pay. I'm just slow playing this for seven seasons.

[Brandi Howard]

But more importantly, before I guess you wrap it up, my question is.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Brandi Howard]

Are your eyes as dry as mine? And lips from this hotel area?

[Heather McDonald]

I have no eye drop drops I.

[Brandi Howard]

Can give to you that are amazing. Great.

[Heather McDonald]

I just, like, pop. Make your eyes sparkle. They're not the ones that shape. Change the shape of your eyes. That's weird. This just will, like, lube your eye up.

[Brandi Howard]

Great.

[Julie Goldman]

She loves lube.

[Heather McDonald]

I think. I think we covered everything that we planned on covering you guys.

[Julie Goldman]

I think couple trip, TV show couple Bravo is a good idea.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, wait.

[Heather McDonald]

I have one last thing.

[Julie Goldman]

One sheet of paper.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my gosh. So a real house f O C who has been accused of being a grifter that we know as a grifter, promised our friend a free room, claimed that she'd gotten seven free rooms for BravoCon, and two days before BravoCon started, there was no room. That is a grifter ass move. That is where it's that kind of griftering, where you're like. Like, why would this person do it? They're not trying to me. They're not trying to steal money from me. But it's like dangling a carrot, acting powerful. Nobody's giving extra free rooms to a real housewife that's barely on the show that was only on for, you know, half the season. Yeah. And it's only. Yeah, they're not getting free. So it's like, oh, my God. If that didn't prove that she was.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes, she was like this. Nardo. He's not answering. I can't get your room at fucking links or wherever when the person shows.

[Brandi Howard]

Up and the room isn't there. And then you call them and they're like, oh, my God, I couldn't get them on the phone. I'm so sorry. Or it is classic.

[Julie Goldman]

And we all get triggered because we've chased around Coachella tickets.

[Heather McDonald]

Right?

[Julie Goldman]

We've chased around, like, concert tickets and.

[Brandi Howard]

Had the grift of the person being like, I've got the tickets for you. And then you show up and then the tickets aren't there.

[Julie Goldman]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

My grifter from the Stagecoach. I was actually kind of doing the same thing I was doing with, like, the. The weird person that's calling me like, I'm scamming the scam. I just wanted to see, like, how long it would go.

[Julie Goldman]

Yes. Just Heather keeps playing it out just to see how long is this person gonna lie to me.

[Brandi Howard]

And we're like.

[Julie Goldman]

And she's like, I'm just gonna keep pretending I want the ticket just to let them keep stressing out and lying to me.

[Heather McDonald]

No. And then I finally went to go get the ticket for Stagecoach, and I already had my wristband that I paid for.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah, you already.

[Heather McDonald]

And so I was gonna pick up another band that I could, like, give to my sister. So I have to go to, like, where the tennis courts are to get it. And then the guy is like. The grifter is like, oh, it's. I got you a working thing. Like, Like, I'm working. Like, I'm picking sanitation.

[Julie Goldman]

Hold on, let me just park.

[Heather McDonald]

So I go, oh, hi, I'm picking up my thing. And the guy goes, all right, I need to put it on you. And I go, okay. And then he sees that I already had my wristband on, which was the expensive artist pass. I would have to cut that off to forgive you this one. You can't have two passes because they know that this. That I'm probably going to give it to somebody. This little tiny thing I could have put it on. And you put it on my sister's wrist. Well, so then I was like, well, no, I'm not cutting off my thing. Cuz like, if you try to cut it and paint it, tape it, they. They. And they're like, no. So then I just left. And then he was like, did you pick it up? And I go, yeah, I'm not cutting off my wristband.

[Julie Goldman]

Like, whatever to get this.

[Heather McDonald]

But then I realized he was like. But then I realized if I said that, he'd be like, wait, I thought you didn't have them. Cuz I never told him that I bought him. Cuz I was seeing if I could ever get free tickets for, like, my sister or whatever.

[Julie Goldman]

Anyway, she sent yellow flower down to the damn tennis courts to get the Santa blocker thing.

[Heather McDonald]

You'd have to show it on ghee, though.

[Julie Goldman]

And she would not have been able to get anywhere. They'd literally only let her in the parking lot with that thing. He was going to give you he scripting.

[Heather McDonald]

They'd be like, yeah, they'd be like, here that. Are you with the sanitation department or what? Yeah. Like, all of a sudden, now I'm, like, picking up horseshit or something.

[Julie Goldman]

And then Shannon's parking the cars for Michelle out, and we're like, shannon, drop us off. See you later, babe.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, we have got to go have some lunch before we go on the helicopter.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

Then go to David Copperfield.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

Then go to Delilah's. Oh, my God. Then who knows what?

[Brandi Howard]

Hell no.

[Heather McDonald]

There is a potential party after Delilah. There's no way we're going to the thing.

[Brandi Howard]

And then.

[Heather McDonald]

And then we Surprise.

[Julie Goldman]

We're going to go to BravoCon now. We're going to a Zon. We got access passes from Heather's grifter friend at the tennis court.

[Heather McDonald]

I know. I'm just thinking, well, at least they, you know, don't have to feed the girls. So that saved Peacock some money.

[Julie Goldman]

Yeah. But I just want everyone to just never forget that we came to BravoCon and did not even go to Bravo Con.

[Heather McDonald]

A lot of. You know what? A lot of these girls came up to me when I was buying the band dates. And she goes. I go. She goes, we came to see your show. We went to your show last night. I'm like, oh, thank you. I go, do you have fun today at Bravicon? She goes, no, we did what you said to do. I go, what did I say? She goes, we just went where they all walk in, and we got to see all of them, and we got to get photos, and. And I'm like, that is what you do. Because the panel stuff, you're sitting there. There's no tea being spilled. All the. If you followed some of the. These really good Bravo accounts, they're filming it. They're sharing it. So it's like.

[Julie Goldman]

And they're streaming it all on Peacock anyway. If you already have Peacock. But it's coming here. The trifecta that I noticed, and I met so many. And I just want to say this. So many. So many nice, wheat, like, Juicy Scoop listeners. Like, perfect. Yes, they truly are. It's a. The Juicy Scoop army is just like the. The.

[Heather McDonald]

They're, like, high above everybody else because they're, like, the classiest women.

[Julie Goldman]

And they were.

[Heather McDonald]

And yet days, they were a man or two. They're gay man, a straight man.

[Julie Goldman]

Their trifecta, which isn't even a trifecta, their dual effecta was like, Juicy Scoop Friday, New kids Saturday, Bye, girl. And like. But then walking around Vegas and just, you know, partying it up in Vegas. But that was.

[Heather McDonald]

No. I saw a husband and wife. They only came to see my show. And they're like, it was so fun. You guys were so funny last night. And what's. What. They were holding Prada bags. I said, it looks like you know how to do your. Your bravicon weekend. They're like, yep, like, we're gonna. We're gonna buy Prada and not spend it on. But anyway, I do want to say my mysterious juicy scooper, who. This is the second Chanel gift she's given me.

[Julie Goldman]

Better watch out, Peter. Heather's got a mistress. She's been in the Uber with her. We did her. We just did a tick tock about it.

[Heather McDonald]

Should I do a little unboxing here?

[Julie Goldman]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

I already opened it. So the thing is off. But it has all the authenticity, all the stuff. Wow, look at how nice this little thing is. And it's the. It's the partner to the other one she gave me. So she gave me this.

[Brandi Howard]

That.

[Heather McDonald]

This is for, like, your credit cards. And I have the other one that's like a change purse. And this is what I love. Because you can't ever. No one needs a whole big wallet anymore. No, because you only use, like, one or two cards.

[Julie Goldman]

And then.

[Heather McDonald]

And then this is just. Is. And then the signature pink.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, my God, that is.

[Heather McDonald]

How cute is that?

[Julie Goldman]

Wow. Gorgeous. You bitch.

[Brandi Howard]

Oh.

[Julie Goldman]

And then.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, somebody else gave me a great bottle of wine. I didn't get as many gifts this time. In Vegas, I think people. People. It's too much to carry.

[Julie Goldman]

It is.

[Brandi Howard]

You don't want to carry it around.

[Heather McDonald]

But I did give out some hats. Some juicy scoop hats.

[Julie Goldman]

Oh, yeah.

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[Julie Goldman]

I didn't see it.

[Heather McDonald]

They loved it.

[Julie Goldman]

How was. So you went like this. You whipped them out.

[Heather McDonald]

I threw out 10. I went. I wasn't sure. You know, with my little wrists. I've never thrown a hat out to anybody in my life. And so I remember when we did these shows with Chewie, we do the comedians Chelsea lately, we were like, you know, she's not a comedian. And you would just be. Come out and be like, what's up? Which is like, basically, whatever. Sometimes people do that. That's their whole show. And they do a live podcast. But anyway, they had a gun for him to shoot out the T shirts.

[Julie Goldman]

T shirt gun?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. No, I just threw the hat and people got them. People wore them. And. And.

[Julie Goldman]

But then.

[Heather McDonald]

But then when I'm doing it, I'm like, oh, I wish I had, like, 100 more.

[Julie Goldman]

Now I want to give them because they're really cute.

[Heather McDonald]

You can buy them and heatherbringtonnell.net, you can still watch the stream. Follow Brandy and Julie. Check out them. They are also on Patreon as well as having their own podcast, Demkay Podcast.

[Julie Goldman]

Can you be more specific about where we can watch the stream? Because I want my mom to. To buy it and watch it. How do I. How does my mom do that?

[Heather McDonald]

If she just goes to heatherbertel.net you'll see. Tour and now right now, the only thing is the moment house. So you can just click on that. You purchase it, then they sell, then they send you an email, and then you click on that E. And then you can watch it and you can rewatch it until Friday.

[Julie Goldman]

Okay? We don't want any negative feedback. Mom. Watch it.

[Heather McDonald]

Thank you. Everybody stay safe out there.

[Brandi Howard]

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[Heather McDonald]

Biscuit from AM pm Total winner, winner, chicken breakfast.

[Brandi Howard]

Chicken breakfast.

[Heather McDonald]

Come on. I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.

[Brandi Howard]

Nah, brother. Crispy bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken, and a buttery biscuit.

[Heather McDonald]

That's the perfect breakfast.

[Julie Goldman]

All right, let me try it.

[Brandi Howard]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, totally. Winner, winner, chicken breakfast. I'm gonna have to keep this right here.

[Brandi Howard]

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