Chris Franjola 2025 Year End Review

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald – “Chris Franjola 2025 Year End Review”

Podcast Date: December 18, 2025
Host: Heather McDonald
Guest: Chris Franjola

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Overview

In this year-end wrap-up, Heather McDonald welcomes comedian and regular guest Chris Franjola for a lively and wide-ranging conversation. The episode covers everything from family gatherings and aging, to celebrity scandals, mental health crises, pop culture grifters, and a comprehensive retrospective on 2025's biggest moments in entertainment, reality TV, and viral internet trends. As always, Heather brings her signature sharp humor, personal anecdotes, frank opinions, and plenty of insider references.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Family, Aging, and The Holidays (00:26–08:30)

• Chris shares about his family Christmas: A somber, reflective event as relatives age, with conversations often dominated by ailments and end-of-life planning.
  • “It was shockingly depressing because it's almost like the last, you know, it's the last one for a lot of them.” (Chris, 00:54)
• Heather discusses the value of living in the moment: She describes her own anxieties about not taking enough vacations or enjoying life, shifting from always saving for the future.
  • “I'm done saving for the future... I need to enjoy my life now.” (Heather, 03:01)
• Humor in mundane adventures: Chris tells a hilarious story about hot-air ballooning, only to realize "the magic" involves floating from a Home Depot parking lot to a Sam's Club.
  • “We landed in the Sam's Club parking lot. I'm like, I thought it was going to be like an Open field and mountains.” (Chris, 06:47)

2. Pop Culture Scandal: The Rob Reiner Family Tragedy (09:58–18:53)

• Breakdown of the Reiner case: The hosts discuss the sad news of Rob Reiner’s son, Nick, being arrested after a violent family incident. They explore public perceptions, family struggles with addiction and mental illness, and how Hollywood and privilege intersect with tragedy.
  • “It starts with, you know, they struggle as a kid... then they find drugs and alcohol... then they become addicted... and there's mental illness.” (Heather, 12:16)
  • Conspiracy theories & reality: Chris expresses skepticism: “If everything's a conspiracy theory, then nothing is a conspiracy theory. Sometimes shit just happens.” (16:06)
• Personal impact: Heather relates to family mental illness, emphasizing how misunderstood and isolating it can be for families.

3. Grifters, Scams, and Friendships in Modern Life (23:43–35:23)

• Friend-fishing and the perils of making new friends: The hosts share anecdotes and discuss the rise of scams masked as life coaching or networking.
  • Heather: “One, you thought it was a real friend. Two, now this person actually thinks you're so fucked up that you need life coaching. And three, she's teaching you so you can go be a life coach under her. MLM!” (26:45)
• Grifter culture: Both criticize the artificially manufactured personas of modern “self-help” gurus like Mel Robbins and Jay Shetty.
  • Chris: “[Mel Robbins says] You want to feel good in the morning, you need to get a good night's sleep. Like, well, no shit.” (32:17)
• The audience for self-improvement: Heather observes that women, in particular, are susceptible to multi-level marketing (MLM), life coaching, and the constant search for "the answer" to happiness or success.

4. Nostalgia & Reality TV: Dating Services and VHS “Great Expectations” (40:31–45:18)

• Heather’s story of 90s video dating: She reflects on past efforts to find love before apps, including filming a video for “Great Expectations,” and how modern parodies of these VHS tapes may or may not be real.
  • “I did my own video, and it's somewhere. And I would die for them to find it.” (Heather, 40:55)
• Modern skepticism: Both hosts wonder if the viral VHS dating clips are legit or expertly crafted sketches.

5. Year-End Pop Culture Recap: Celebrities, Conspiracy, and Viral Moments (50:10–63:47)

And Just Like That (Sex and the City Sequel) Cancellation

• The end of 'And Just Like That': Both mourn the series’ demise, speculating that critics and podcasts like their own played a part:
  • “It's like, and this is why we can't have anything nice. Because of podcasters. Because you guys talked too much. Our writers and our stars heard you rip on us too much...” (Heather, 51:08)

UFOs and Internet Conspiracies

• Short-lived attention span: They discuss how alien/UFO stories in New Jersey and Las Vegas surface, then disappear unresolved.
• “Now I'm like everything. I'm like, I won't believe anything.” (Heather, 53:55)

Diddy Doc and Music World Scandals

• The Diddy Netflix documentary: Chris summarizes: “That's JD's a scumbag. Right? I mean, that is the conclusion.” (60:52)
• Unresolved mysteries: Discussion of whistleblowers, another potential documentary part, and the disappearance of a famous critic (“I hope she's safe. Do a documentary on her.” Heather, 60:42)

Celebrity Gossip

• George Clooney’s alleged new on-set “boundaries” after discussions with his wife; skepticism about whether it’s PR or reality.
• “You marry George CLOONEY and then 10 years later you're like, you know what? No more kissing.” (Heather, 46:45)
• Speculation on Bradley Cooper’s changing appearance: “He looks like a completely different person.” (Heather, 47:30)

Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce’s Engagement

• Relationship talk: Season review of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, doubts about football future, and Heather’s minor hair-related criticism:
  • “I just don't understand her hair color. It's the epitome of why my mom would say is like a mousy brown.” (Heather, 71:03)

6. Social Media, Memes, and Gen-Z Fads (83:58–86:00)

• The '6-7' viral trend: The hosts try to parse what’s funny about this meme that sweeps social media and even restaurants like In-N-Out, comparing it to clean, nonsensical fun like “69” jokes in their youth.
  • “I am actually sad about [In-N-Out dropping 67] because I thought that was such good clean fun.” (Heather, 85:04)

7. Grifting, Podcasting, and Career Reflections (72:25–98:46)

• Podcast etiquette and nepotism: Discussion on sensitivities when friends expect celebrity relatives on their podcasts and how it can end relationships or cause resentment in non-famous family members.
  • “Please don't befriend someone and make them feel...they want to be on the podcast and then go, who I really want is your dad.” (Heather, 73:36)
• Chris’ touring schedule: Details of his upcoming comedy dates and a humorous conversation on being selective with gigs as they both age.

8. Final Reflections and Lighthearted Banter (94:14–end)

• Heather's major life change of the year: Moving homes after 19 years.
• Manifesting travel: Both express a desire to take a luxury Ritz-Carlton yacht cruise as a “life bucket list” trip.
• OOTD (Outfit of the Day): Chris's take on New York fashion and accidental influencer potential.
• Notable Note: The episode winds down with mutual appreciation, comedic rapport, and their usual blend of honest, unfiltered commentary.

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Memorable Quotes

• “If everything's a conspiracy theory, then nothing is a conspiracy theory. Sometimes shit just happens.” – Chris (16:06)
• “One, you thought it was a real friend. Two, now this person actually thinks you're so fucked up that you need life coaching. And three, she's teaching you so you can go be a life coach under her. MLM!” – Heather (26:45)
• “Mel Robbins must just read those [inspirational plaques in car washes]...I feel like it's just inspirational car wash messages.” – Chris (33:36)
• “We landed in the Sam's Club parking lot. I'm like, I thought it was going to be like an Open field and mountains.” – Chris (06:47)
• “I'll never understand that hair color...It's unique to her because nobody else would ever choose it.” – Heather (71:23)
• “That's JD's a scumbag. Right? I mean, that is the conclusion.” – Chris (60:52)

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Key Timestamps for Segments

• Family Christmas & Aging Realness: 00:26–08:30
• Reiner Family Tragedy / Mental Health: 09:58–18:53
• Friend-fishing & Grifter Culture: 23:43–35:23
• VHS Dating Memories: 40:31–45:18
• 'And Just Like That' Canceled, UFOs, Diddy Doc: 50:10–63:47
• Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce Engagement/Pop Star Critique: 67:29–72:08
• '6-7' Meme, Gen-Z Trends: 83:58–86:00
• Podcasting Etiquette & Nepotism: 72:25–74:17
• Chris’s Upcoming Comedy Shows: 95:42–98:46

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Tone and Style

• Conversational, candid, sarcastic, and self-deprecating.
• Mix of heartfelt, snarky, and sharp-witted humor.
• Unfiltered takes on celebrity, mental health, the scam economy, and the pitfalls of modern fame.

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TL;DR

Heather and Chris look back on 2025’s juiciest moments with humor and heart, examining everything from family aging and pop culture scammers to the year’s biggest viral trends and celebrity scandals. They reflect on authenticity, the search for meaning, how fame and influence operate in the digital age, and how “grifting” is more prominent than ever. It’s a must-listen for those who crave unvarnished observations, relatable anecdotes, and pop culture deep dives from two veteran comedians.

Transcript

[A]

Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales For real life, Mr. Segment, serial data and cereal sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast.

[B]

Listen in, listen up. Woo.

[A]

Woo. Hannah McDonald, juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We're almost at the end of the year, so I had to bring our favorite comedian, father of the year, blue eyed model, fresh from. Were you modeling in New York? What were you doing, Chris?

[B]

Modeling? I was on the runways of.

[A]

Wait, were you doing stand up or visiting your family?

[B]

No, I was visiting my family. We had the Frangiola family Christmas on Sunday.

[A]

Very nice.

[B]

Out on Long Island. Yeah. Which, you know, it's whatever that is anymore. It's just a lot of people talking about getting up and down the steps, you know, and how it's going to be difficult and who's going to be able to make it and who's not. It was shockingly depressing because it's almost like the last, you know, it's the last one for a lot of them.

[A]

So it's basically because you had like aunts and uncles.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So when you say goodbye at the end, it's like, okay, goodbye, like forever. Like you're not making that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it was a lot of that, A lot of just take care for. For good.

[A]

I, I once had a situation like that with, with like a cousin and it was at my dad's funeral, but he was the one that always like got everybody together.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And she goes, is this gonna be the last time we ever see each other? And I felt so like, no.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it was, you know, like there was still some correspondence and stuff over the years, but like. Yeah, yeah. I mean, since we're just on a roll of.

[B]

I mean, we had it. Just let me give you it. Yeah. Just to show you what it is now. I mean, you remember the days where it was fun, where you exchanged gifts and stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Those days are all. Because nobody's. There's no children.

[A]

I don't want anything and I don't.

[B]

I didn't have my kid with me. I just went by myself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let them stay here.

[A]

And they can't really shop and stuff. Yeah.

[B]

So there's none of that. So at one point the conversation's just about like, just ailments, you know, what they're watching, what people are watching seems to be big. And then at one point my mother wants a New couch. But my father will not buy a new couch because we're gonna be dead. Like, why? New couch would be dead in six months.

[A]

That's exactly why you should get a new couch.

[B]

He's saying, I don't want a new couch now. Like, I won't be able to enjoy it. But it's not a fan. Like, you gotta start thinking. You got to the point in life where you got to start thinking about things like. Like, I'm not going to purchase a new car now. I have. You know, there's not much time left here.

[A]

Or. But he's not. They're not terminal, but.

[B]

No, but things that are. That you have for a long time, you don't purchase those at 85.

[A]

I disagree with that theory. Because even for myself now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

More and more, I'm having a panic about that my life is ending soon, and I haven't traveled and I haven't spent the money I should be spending, really on myself, because I'm like. I feel like my kids will be fine, and I need to enjoy my life now.

[B]

Oh, like.

[A]

Like, I'm done saving for the future.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because it's like, you know, so I'm. Yeah. I'm like, no.

[B]

Why.

[A]

Why am I not like, you know.

[B]

Do you have any big things planned?

[A]

No, I don't. And that's a panic, too. It's like, I go and I open my Instagram and I see, like, the. This. These travel agent girls that are like. This girl is like a. You know, this is the trip we just booked for our. They're called Chic Stay. This is for our clients. It's four nights at the La Ba ble, blah, blah, blah. And then four nights of the. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I need to do this before it's too late.

[B]

But you gotta hope that it's good.

[C]

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[B]

Like, you don't have to be disappointed. Like, I went. We just went hot air ballooning. And I thought, this is going to be one. Like, this is one of those ones.

[A]

How did it go?

[B]

Well, it was great. I actually thoroughly enjoyed it. Okay, okay. But I didn't. You know, you take off from like, Home Depot parking lot. Like, I thought it was going to be like, oh, what beautiful city were you in? Albuquerque, which is like the capital of hot air ballooning.

[A]

Okay. And you have to go at like five in the morning.

[B]

Five in the morning. I'm not kidding. It was a Home Depot parking lot. We blow up the balloon. I'm like, working there. The guy's like, hold it up. I'm like, wait, I gotta work here. So then it goes into the air and we're up there for an hour. It's pretty nice. The guy's great, the company's great. And then we landed. This is.

[A]

The landing is scary.

[B]

We landed in the Sam's Club parking lot. I'm like, I thought it was going to be like an Open field and mountains.

[A]

But we did it in Napa, my sister and I. I just turned 21. So what do you do in an alcoholic family? But that's like the one trip we went on is now, finally, Heather can drink. Let's go to Napa. So it was Shannon and I, my parents, we go to Napa and we did one of those, you know, but my mom stayed below. She did not want to do it. And I do remember, like, going up was really scary. Then once you're up there, it's like, okay, this is kind of fun. It doesn't feel scary then.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then going down, it was a little scary because it's like people yelling at the men and stuff.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's what. Yeah, they're on. Because the guy. We were supposed to land in a museum parking lot, but the wind took us to Sam's Club. And, and then my, my wife's like, we got the champagne package. So when we land, there's champagne. So I once again thought, oh, this is going to be in a field. We were literally drinking champagne and out of the back of this guy's pickup truck in a Sam's Club parking lot. So I was like a list thing. And I'm like, oh, I thought it was going to end differently than this. You know what I mean?

[A]

Oh, my God, that's hilarious. Okay, so. Well, I'm glad you made it alive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you did your Christmas thing. You came back a little early. Thank goodness. Because you could make this. But because you said it was just freezing.

[B]

Oh, it was like 15°. I was. My patience for 15° is gone. Like, even in New York, when you're like, oh, it's Christmas time, because it had snowed, and then the snow just froze over. And that was a nightmare. So I'm like, I'm out. I, I, I'm from there. I understand. Most of the country has to go through that stuff. I can't do it anymore.

[A]

I am not from there. And I never wanted to do it when I would watch those games. Like, people freezing at football time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was just like, what if I marry some guy? And, like, that's what we're doing on Thanksgiving.

[B]

And you have to go to.

[A]

And I have to go, and I'm just free. Like, I, I mean, I remember we went to the SC Nordame game once, and it wasn't even that cold, I guess from standards, because it was like, whatever, October. But I was just like, there's no way. Like, all my friends and I, we went into the. Back in the bus. And we were just like, we're just waiting the bus for the game. This is just. I. I just don't understand. And then Drake was saying that, what you were saying the soda cans were freezing.

[B]

Oh, my God. They have a video at the Chicago Bears game. It was like six degrees something. And this guy opens his Pepsi bottle and it freezes, like, as he's pouring it.

[A]

Now, when. When you're like a big fan like that as a dude.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I'm just saying. And maybe we can speak about men. Not you, but other men and your big Bulls. What are they? What are they?

[B]

Bears.

[A]

Bears fan. You're a big Bears fan and you're all excited, and your friend is like, yeah, I got these tickets and everything. And. Or maybe you bought the tickets and maybe you're even on a budget. Does anyone ever just go, you know, I'm gonna watch the game from my home.

[B]

Like, I should.

[A]

I mean, I'm just like, how is this a good time for anyone?

[B]

I don't know. I'm not really. Like, I don't. I don't think I've been to a football game in a long time. So. Yeah.

[A]

Wow. I mean, that just says a lot. Like, that's a lot of effort. All right, well, we are going to talk about something sad because we need to talk a little bit. Oh, about, you know, the Rob Reiner and his beautiful wife, and they have arrested the son, Nick. He has retained the famed defense attorney that worked with Karen Reed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, you know, there's lots of questions that we have in a situation like this. I feel so badly for the other two kids. So he was the middle child, so there was an older son. Of course, he had a daughter with Penny Marshall. Penny Marshall, who has spoken out. But then when he married this woman who he met during. While doing Harry Met Sally Michelle, then they had their three kids, two boys and a girl. Like, perfect, you know, and it seems like the kids were all really close. And then obviously he had his challenges from teenage years or even earlier on. People have spoken. The yoga instructor spoke and said, I would be doing. Yo. I'd come over and do yoga with them. And he would interrupt them all the time. I don't know how longer that was, but.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's just.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, it's. The whole thing is. Is a crazy story, but, I mean, I feel bad a little bit for Conan o'. Brien. Like, I feel like he's. It was all. It all began at his Christmas Party is what I read.

[A]

And when these tragedies happen, you do sort of associate something like that forever. And I'm assuming he. He's one of those guys that has the annual Christmas party.

[B]

That's. It must be like a Hollywood Christmas party where all the A list comedy people and everyone else filmmakers go, yeah. And I mean, that's. He can't do it anymore. Like, all you would talk about now is the last year's Christmas party.

[A]

So the Reiners, Michelle and Rob attended and they brought their son because they felt he was in a really bad place. He's one of, you know, this has just been a very common thing. I had it with my sibling and brother. I'm going to talk more about it on Patreon because the similarities are very hard and triggering. Like, my sister and I can't even talk to each other this week about it because it's like. Yeah, but it's. It's really hard. And it starts with, you know, they struggle as a kid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And because they're struggling as a kid, then they find drugs and alcohol and they finally feel normal. Then they become addicted. And part of the reason that the addiction and why they didn't feel good as a kid is there's another layer. And it's not just straight addiction, there's mental illness.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then you parlay it into, you have all the opportunity in the world. You have the two loving parents.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You, you know, you want to be in the industry, but because of all this addiction and illness, even with all the Nepo help, you can't do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then, and then, you know, you have a selfish personality or whatever the case is. It's like his entitlement. And so he was walking around the party, not dressed accordingly and getting, walking up to, like, Bill Hader, interrupting conversation and being like, are you famous? Are you famous?

[B]

He would ask him that. Apparently what that I've read this morning was he would ask them, what's your first name? What's your last name? And are you famous? So the people were like, I don't know. I guess some people probably knew who.

[A]

He was from and some probably didn't, but he's walking around in a hoodie. People are like, wait, what? And then you. I'm sure just like, my dad was with, you know, my brother and stuff. It was like, what the are you doing? You know, like, stop it. And so there was like a verbal something. And so then I guess he was living at the house and obviously something happened there. It happened with A knife, I'm assuming. Because Rob Reiner probably never did own a gun.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because he knew that he had mental illness in the home and never wanted one or whatever the feelings are. But a lot of people sometimes would choose to go that route because they know there's. There's danger in the home.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and so that happens. Then he leaves and they find. He checks into a hotel. I don't know how they found him then in like Echo park because he left the hotel. I don't know if they had a tracker on his phone, how they found him.

[B]

Is that where they. They got him? At an Echo Park.

[A]

Yeah. And then when he left the hotel. Yeah, they left the hotel and then the detectives came and they, you know, found a lot of.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Blood and things like that. And so of this, the. The kids have Romy and I forgot the other son's name. But they have made a statement. Just like they were not just our parents, they were our best friends. And we are grateful for the outpouring. And it's just a horrible position to be in because I'm like, okay, so I'm assuming there's a trust. Right. And that all three kids got equal parts. So it's. It's like, are the other two then paying for the attorney?

[B]

Yeah, who pays for that? High powered attorney.

[A]

Yeah. And then if he does spend the rest of his life either institutionalized or in prison, where does his portion go besides what you can put on the books? Like, it. It's just thing, you know, that's where their connection and everything will come in. And they're probably like, yeah, we don't ever want him to be free, but if we can have it be that he's not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, in the worst place on earth, then, you know, maybe that's what it'll be.

[B]

Well, he appeared in court today, this morning, and there's pictures of him shackled and it said he was wearing a suicide smock. That's what I read.

[A]

Which is like a thing.

[B]

I don't know what a suicide smock is.

[A]

Maybe it's something where somehow it's kind of controlling you from, like hurting yourself.

[B]

So.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, you know, they're. They're already. The conspiracy theories are starting.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

That he didn't do it.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

That somebody already. Already.

[B]

That they come up too quick.

[A]

That, you know, and then he came home and found it, but got scared and left and, you know, but no, I think, I mean, they would know from.

[B]

To conspiracy theorists all around the world all of you. I feel like if everything's conspiracy theory, then nothing is a conspiracy theory. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There are ones that are legitimate, like the Kennedy assassination or whatever.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So if you say now because immediately, like this one, everything, sometimes shit just happens.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, and in this case, I think that's certainly the case.

[A]

Yes. And, you know, and, and it sadly has happened. You know, it's, it's a thing that happens. Menendez brothers. This doesn't seem like it was planned. Menendez brothers was planned. There was a, a very successful, I think also entertainment executive, older man in Santa Monica whose troubled son just ended his Life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

On December 5th.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I don't, I don't know if they know each other, but it's literally top Hollywood people. But then there was a doctor in Simi Valley with his wife and they had a beautiful life. Married forever, their 35 year old son. It's, you know, it's a, it's a lot. And the thing is you can't do anything because the way it works is you can't get someone committed unless they have a lot of money and they spin around. And then it's Britney Spears.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I mean, the fact that Britney Spears can get in a conservative ship, whether you agree with it or not back then, it's like for a normal person.

[B]

Right.

[A]

To get there like a, a middle class person to get their really upset on somehow to be safe.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So they're not on the streets, but they're safe from you. It's so impossible because when you're not well, you don't know that you're not well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then if you're on the medication, you're like, I feel so good. I don't think I need to take this medication anymore. Like, so it's just the hardest kind of illness ever because it's like, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's the worst part about it. And I just, I know everyone's chiming in and saying their thing and you know, it's like you just don't know unless you've had someone in your family deal with it.

[B]

I know you had something similar and I feel like a lot of families do and have as a matter of fact, so much so that in all the pictures now that you see of them with, when they're together, he's, he does look off and all the. Yeah, yeah, he looks, you know, everyone else is smiling. He's never smiling. And, and then all the comments underneath are like, oh, I know this all too well. Like this kid or whatever. I have somebody similar in my family, blah, blah, blah, you know, so, yeah.

[A]

And just all the. So like I said, I'll, I'll talk more about it on my, my Patreon and stuff, but it's really sad and I just, I feel so much for the brother and the sister, but I do have a little more of a connection to what the youngest daughter because that's like me. And you could tell she did videos and stuff with her parents and you could tell that she was just like the apple of their eye and she was so close to them. And I'm sure she had many experiences where she was terrified of her older brother.

[B]

You could see it in the pictures. I'm telling you, there's literally like in that one we're looking at right now.

[A]

Like she is, she's literally leaning away.

[B]

From, leaning away from him.

[A]

But when you have these families, these tight knit families, they're just, they will be like, well, this is what we're doing for Christmas. This is what we're doing for Hanukkah. Everyone's coming, you know, and that's that. And you're like, what do I do? You know, you guys know I love my Honey Love. And now I want to tell you about the new cloud embrace bra. It is the perfect treat yourself gift. It's a modern wireless T shirt bra with sturdy, lightly padded foam cups that feel like a cloud against your skin. It's a wireless bra. The for people who love underwire. I mean, I'm telling you, I feel support. I love it. It's sold out in days, so you do not want to wait. This is a present to put under the tree or just in your own stocking. And you will love how you feel in it. Get Honey Love to yourself or to someone you love. Because nothing says holiday spirit like support, comfort and confidence. I also love Honey Love shapewear because the features target compression that enhance the curves naturally, not squishes them. I mean, I get a waist like I never can with anything else when I wear my Honey Love shapewear. And I love that there's a little panty area opening so it makes going to the bathroom and your whole night so much easier and more fun and quicker. Treat yourself or someone you love to Honey Love this holiday season. And right now you can save [e-mail] juicy just use our exclusive link honeylove.com juicy to grab your discount. After you order, they'll ask you where you heard about Honey Love. So please support Juicy Scoop and tell them that Heather McDonald's sent you. Celebrate the season feeling confident and comfortable with honey. Love Juicy scoopers. You know I'm obsessed with grifters and scammers and also trying to prevent from becoming a victim of one. The holidays are about finding the perfect gift, but this time of year, not every deal is actually what it seems. Scammers are getting more creative to trick people into sharing their payment info through methods like fake shopping sites and giveaways that are too good to be true. Luckily, Cash App's 247 fraud monitoring helps detect and alert you for unusual card activity should someone gain access to your card so that you can act fast if something seems off. You can also lock or unlock your Cash App card instantly right in the app for extra control and peace of mind. Stay one step ahead of the scams this season and keep your money secure with cash. For a limited time only new Cash App customers can use our exclusive code to earn some additional cash for real. Just download Cash App Use our exclusive referral code Secure10 in your profile. Send $5 to a friend within 14 days and you'll get $10 dropped right into your account. Terms apply. That's money. That's Cash App. Cash App is a financial service platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's Bank Partners Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank Member FDIC Promotions provided by Cash App A Block Inc. Brand. Visit Cash App Legal Podcast for full disclosures. I know when the conversation comes up about GLP ones, what they could do for you, or we're talking with my friends, people always mention the cost. Well, how much does it cost? I've heard this. I've heard that. Does insurance cover it? That's what I love about Ro because Ro's insurance checker lets you know if you're covered for GLP1s for free. If you want to see if you're covered, just submit your insurance card and RO will take care of the rest. No paperwork, no hassle, no waiting on hold. Ro's Free Insurance Checker will send you a comprehensive report of your coverage details so you can make a decision that's right for your goals. If you decide to move forward, RO can help you understand if GLP1s are right for you and your goals. But that's just the beginning. When you become a RO member, you'll have support throughout the process. You'll have access to your provider on demand. For any questions, join the over 1 million people who've trusted RO to check their coverage for free. Go to RO CO Juicy Scoop for your free insurance check. That's RO CO Juicy Scoop. To see if your insurance covers GLP1s for free, go to RO Safety 4 Boxed Warning and full safety information about GLP1 medications. Okay, let's change subjects because there's some fun things and we're going to do like a wrap up of the year end.

[B]

Wrap up.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I thought this was very interesting. This guy, Gowanus Canal official account. I just came across him and the title of his video was Friend fishing. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting because I always say when men are kind of like married people trying to see if you want to cheat, they always kind of like are fishing. Like they're like, where do you get Starbucks in the morning? You know? And then like, like when people want to have affairs and then they like fishing, like they kind of just put out little crumbs. Yeah. They kind of comes like, are you down? Are you down to like. Oh, really around? Yeah. Like, okay. So I was like, what kind of fishing is friend fishing? And I talk about friend poaching and stuff. So I'm like, what is friend fishing? So this guy goes, this girl, you know, in this day and age, you know, there is like finding friends on bumble and things. People are just looking for friends. Like it is like I'm in the city, I don't have my friends. I got this new job. I don't have a boyfriend. But like can I find a girlfriend to go on like a walk with?

[B]

How many friends do you have? Like if you like.

[A]

I'm not looking for them, but I understand why younger out of the friend market. No, no, I said I have enough.

[B]

You do?

[A]

I have enough. But, but like joining, joining like doing my pickleball and all that. I am making.

[B]

Have you made new friends?

[A]

Yes, I really. I've made two good ones.

[B]

Is that right?

[A]

Yes, I made two real ones.

[B]

But it, but you gotta. They could do something that we like.

[A]

Oh, no one is Canadian, so I'm not afraid of that. Good.

[B]

Already Canadian. They'll be fine.

[A]

They're so nice.

[B]

Yeah, they're so nice.

[A]

They're so nice. Then um. Yeah, the, the other one, I'm excited. I, you know, I've just connected with too. And there's just a few others that like. No, we will like do stuff together. But it is hard to find new friends and it took even longer. Like I was, you know, I wasn't making any for six months.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I, and I thought like, oh, you Know, living here, people will be having holiday parties and stuff. But no, people all just go to the club. Like, no one wants to host anything anymore either.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's like your parents don't want to buy a couch.

[B]

Yeah, we don't need to. So too much trouble.

[A]

So I'm just going. Okay. You know, everyone pay for themselves.

[B]

Yeah, right, right.

[A]

Like, yeah. And so anyway, so this girl goes on a friendship date with, if you will, with this. And she's is like, oh, my God, I just met the coolest girl. I'm so, you know, tells her guy friend, I'm so excited. Like, I think I made a friend in this city, a chick I can hang with. And then she gets a text from the girl who's like, so great meeting you. Such great connection. I have an amazing. I have an amazing offer for you. I want to offer you my life coaching services, which normally I would charge someone $2,000 for, but for you, I'm going to do it for free. Now, this is a triple horrific thing. One, you thought it was a real friend, right? Two, now this person actually thinks you're so fucked up that you need life coaching. And three, she's teaching. She's going to teach you her life coaching skills so then you can go be a life coach under her. So it's like an MLM life coach. And it wasn't a real friendship.

[B]

This is why I don't. I have not made a friend since junior high school. I believe everything's a scam. You know what I mean?

[A]

That's what your dad has always said.

[B]

Yeah, my dad has. We were brought up on everything's a scam. And, and I still live by that to this day. It served me well. And so making like a friend, especially for men, I think it's a little different making a friend as a, you know, an older man. It feels either gay, you know, like if they're overly friendly, like, all right, every. You know what this is. I'm not. I don't go that way.

[A]

You know, I just saw what's your.

[B]

What's your. What's your scam angle?

[A]

Well, I was going to say with men too, they will bond over a sport or, or poker or something like that. But then they also never talk to each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they never know why that the person lost their job or that they're getting divorced or even that they moved. Just like, they're gone. And like, I mean, I'm like, you don't have to know anything, but could you, like, find out, like, the number of children they have, it's always like, I don't know, like two or four. Two or four? That's like a pretty big difference. Like, what are you talking. How do you not know? I'm like, I know like where the kid went to school, that her engagement was broken off. Like, I know everything. But anyway, my scam. My latest one is. I think I told you, I don't know if you were here. When I said how I had the person calling me acting like they thought I was a man and they. It was a girl wanting to like meet with me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did I tell you the story? No. So I got a text and I knew right away it was a phishing thing where they just get your number and they're like, oh. And they just start some weird conversation and you're like, oh, sorry, wrong number. And they're like, oh, I'm so sorry. How do I have your number? This is so weird. Yeah. And so then it's, you know, a little. A really pretty girl, a Filipino girl standing, sitting in front of Starbucks.

[B]

They sent the picture.

[A]

They sent a picture. I made a whole plan to go meet her at the Waldorf Restore.

[B]

So you were having fun with it?

[A]

Yes. And I said that I was divorced and I said I belong to this country club. And then I could see, see, then they're. They're waiting. Then they look up the country club and they're like, oh, in the Palisades. Yes, I believe I've been there before. Okay, so like they're trying to actively sitting there. Yes, yes. So now I got a new one. Knowing I'm an old. Now they know. They assumed I was a woman somehow. They said, whatever. And so this one came in and this guy's like, hey, you probably don't remember me. It's Joey from New York at Palamentos or whatever. I looked it up. It's like a cool restaurant in Brooklyn. Like, weird. Some weird place, but looks nice. And he's like, I met you shopping in. No, I met you in North Carolina. And so I'm like, okay, I know this is a scam. So I immediately write. I'm like, oh, in North Carolina was I with my friend Stacy? He's like, you are at the blah blah blah shopping center. And we just connected. Do you remember me? And I'm like, well, I shop there a lot, you know, like that. And I go, can you send a photo? And it was a very dapperly dressed black man in a fancy hotel.

[B]

Oh, that's, that's. This I love every second of it.

[A]

And so I'm like. So I'm reading it to my sister and I'm like, let's see how quickly he says, let's move this conversation on WhatsApp.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

When they ask. When they. Yep. When they ask for WhatsApp, that's. Then, you know, it's a scam because we're already texting here. Why do we have to go to WhatsApp? Yeah, we have to go to WhatsApp because there's, like, more trickery to WhatsApp or something where they can, like, take your money or something. Drake. Right.

[B]

Well, eventually that's what it becomes. Right?

[A]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

I just need a couple.

[A]

But right when the name. Right when it came up, it said somebody's name and it said possibly a scam. Like, it literally said it on my Apple phone. Like. Like. Or whatever. Or not a scam, but spam. Yeah, that's. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So there's a thing. But I do feel like life coaching is the new mlm. Yeah, the life coaching podcasting thing. The fact that so many of these people. Yes. Mel Robbins, Jay Shetty, I mean, nominated for, you know, Golden Globes, and. And they. Their origin stories aren't true, and they're. They steal their stuff from other people and. But, hey, I guess if you really. If. If you really like it and it's. And you're listening and it's improving your life, fine. But is interesting that, you know, this is the year of The Grifter and 2025. You know how it's like the year of the dragon? I'm gonna say 2025 was the year of the grifter.

[B]

Really think so?

[A]

Yeah, I do. I feel like. I feel like I was using the word grifter, like, a couple years ago now. I feel like everybody's like, grifter's got a grift. It's a grifter. Housewife, grifters. It's just people, like, it's so. It's such an interesting feel fake because I've, like, come across somebody that we know, which I'll tell you about at lunch, and I read this weird article about them, and it's all like, they wrote it themselves and they made it look like an article, and then they put it on their Facebook group.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

On their Facebook page. And I'm like, oh, my God. You know, and it's like, she's a dynamo. She's a triple threat. She's a. And I'm like, she's not doing any of These things. Like, I know who she is. Like, what? And I mean, in this day and age, you can just fake. You can fake anything.

[B]

I don't understand what people are getting at. Like, the fact that this, like Mel Robbins, for example, like, the fact that it's such a huge podcast. So I'm like, of course, at one point I'm like, well, let me see what all the hype is about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I listen to some clips and it's just. I literally saying, like, you want to feel good in the morning, you need to get a good night's sleep. Like, well, no shit. I mean, I feel like it's like that.

[A]

It's like Meghan Markle. One of our traditions every Christmas is going out and choosing our own Christmas tree.

[B]

I know. Yeah.

[A]

And it's really great. You know, you get the hot chocolate going before, and then we get the tree and we wrap it on. And then we say, you know what? We gotta stop at our favorite Chinese restaurant right before we take it down. And it's just something that we like to do. It's like, what. Yeah, I agree. It's like that same thing. Like, you know, write down your goals.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[A]

And you know what? Be your own best friend. This is like, because no one else is going to be.

[B]

Yeah. You ever go into a car wash and, you know, and in the car wash, it's not only for car wash. And when you go to pay, they have an area where they sell shit. A lot of times it's air fresheners.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But every now and again, they somehow they got bamboozled by some salesman to stock some weird stuff in there that doesn't belong in there. And a lot of times it's inspirational. You know, things that are framed right. Some ugly inspirational. And that's what Mel Robbins must just read those and say, you know, I feel like it's just inspirational car wash messages.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That she says. And people just go nuts for it. And I don't get it.

[A]

I think, you know, and I. I do.

[B]

And.

[A]

And I believe that other people that are big podcasters that are always like. And I don't want to say the name because I'm afraid, but they'll be like. And they say it's so. They come off so articulate. They come off so smart that you're.

[B]

Like, I believe the big glasses. You need the big.

[A]

I believe you. And they always. And they have like a pencil, too. When people podcast with a pencil in their hand, it just shows you that they are, like, working on, yeah, I.

[B]

Need this to write.

[A]

And they'll look right at the camera and they'll be like, I have heard from extremely two extremely good sources, and I have the text messages to prove it, that my life is in danger. And when this all comes out, it will be explosive. For right now, I have to keep it under wraps.

[B]

Oh, I know who you're talking about.

[A]

And then two months later, you're like.

[B]

Wait a minute, what happened to that story?

[A]

Yeah, nothing.

[B]

And so it drives me. It was a recent. I know who you're talking about. I think everyone else does, too. But.

[A]

And.

[B]

And it was a recent thing where she said, tomorrow, the bombshell about this certain thing, and it never happened. So it's wild.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

Everyone. That's a grift, I guess, right? Get them to buy whatever that too.

[A]

And it's like, yeah. And I'm just kind of like, what part of it is, though, in this world of being able to. Everybody can get their story out on Tick Tock or Instagram or whatever, and you can set it up and you look like a real journalist and you say all these things and you put it out there, and the person at home then goes, oh, I put the two clues together. Yeah, I figured it out. I'm so smart. I'm so smart. And that's the hook.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's like they're not really telling you anything, but they're telling you enough that anyone on, like, a fourth grade level could put the clues together. And then they're like, holy, this is what really happened.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But then there's no proof to it.

[B]

No.

[A]

And then we move to the next one. But in the meantime, you're getting, you know, 500 million trillion views and, you know, and, yeah, money and explosive and. And, oh, protector at all costs and everything. And I'm like, ken, where is that person going to be in two years?

[B]

I'm. This was what keeps me up at night. I. I'm like, is this something? Just a small window. Yeah, I'm gonna go back to Mel Robbins again, like, in 10 years. Are we still talking about Mel Robbins, or does everybody go, this is stuff I feel like I've heard before. You know what I mean?

[A]

Do you remember the girl who wrote the books? And I can't even think of her name, but she wrote books called, like, girl, wash your face, girl, get up and take a shower, whatever. And she took off. She was exploding right before.

[B]

Was it Maya Angelou? No, no. She goes, she's a girl wash your.

[A]

Face will you just. Drake, look up. Who wrote girl, wash your face?

[B]

Was it really a book?

[A]

Oh, yeah. And, you know, and what happened was she and her husband were. They were early on in, like, the blogging and the podcasting and, you know, this is our marriage and we. We're going to do a three day event. What's her name? Rachel Hollis.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And then one day she did a video where she was just, you know, read one mean comment and it was just the wrong day at the wrong time, and she snapped and. And she went. And someone had said, like, you know, well, you kind of. You don't seem like relatable anymore. And she had just gotten her eyebrows done. And they were like, the way you get your eyebrows done, it's like, I don't. I just like pencil mine in. Like, wash them off. But like, people do this weird. Like, it's like a. Like a temporary tattoo. So they were very dark. Okay. Yeah, so she had very dark eyebrows. And she goes. And she's like turning the camera and she's like, I'm not relatable. I'm not. You know, and neither is Harriet Tubman. And everyone was like, she comparing herself to Harriet Tubman. And she was like, I get up at 4am and that's why I deserve to have someone clean my toilets. No, I don't clean my own toilets. And it was just. It was like an after that, was it. Well, it died a lot. Then Covid happened. So then the tour and all that stuff died.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And then she and the husband that did things about, we have a great marriage, they get divorced. And then he was selling a book and no one was buying it. And then he yelled at his audience, why aren't you buying this book? You know, like, all I needed was 25,000 of you to do it. I have 400,000 followers. Like, why haven't you done it? And then, unfortunately, he passed away. I think some type of addiction or something. I think she probably still. As a podcast, whatever, but it was the same type of thing. And it was like her story, people all loved her. And then they, like, examined her story and they're like, wait a minute. She, like, met this guy, like, working at like, yeah, not the Weinstein Company, but like one of those big Disney companies. And she, like, worked for him and basically he wasn't even into her. And like, and then people start to like, really look back at her books and they're like, what did we. I just think there's this female audience there. We are always looking for the Answer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We are looking for the answer to find love. We're looking for the answer to make our relationship better. We're looking for the answer of how we can be financially independent and successful, which is the MLMs and the life coaching. We're all just like, what. What is that one exercise going to work? We're looking for that thing of like, how can I balance? How can I? And so it's just an easy. It's. It's an audience, unlike men that actually just want to improve ourselves.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're willing to spend the money on it. We're willing to buy the books. We're willing to go to the. The event. We're willing to take the yoga class. And. And, yeah. And they tap into it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And then there's other men that are like, scam.

[B]

Also, I'm too lazy. Like, if. If it involves, like, three meetings, I'm like, I'm not going. That's a far. That's far away. I'm not driving to that meeting. There's no parking over there. You know, like, so I wouldn't get caught up.

[A]

I remember this girl friend of mine called me and she's like, hey, I'm in your neighborhood. Can you meet me? I had this amazing opportunity for you. It's this.

[B]

That's that sentence right there. I'm out.

[A]

She's like, it's a way that soon that people will be able to talk to each other on the phone while looking at each other. And I was like, like, that's ever gonna happen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it never did happen. Apple came out with it. This company never came out with it. It never worked.

[B]

That's not how that kind of stuff works. Yeah, do that over lunch. A Chinese chicken salad at the Stanley's.

[A]

And. Okay, so next was. I want to talk about this thing that. I've seen this from different things. It's the VHS dates.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Videos that are going.

[B]

They're on, like, Instagram. And there are.

[A]

There's a few companies that are either. There's a few Instagram accounts. I don't know if they're taking it from it. Who the actual account is, but they're very funny and they're, you know, women with the 80s hair. And it's back from the Great Expectation days, which I did. And I did my own video, and it's somewhere. And I would die for them to find it.

[B]

Oh, my God. Way Great Expectations was, you shot a video and then you. You would go to, like, a website.

[A]

No, there was no website. No that's how long it was. You'd go in. It was on Sepulveda, kind of near Westwood.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I go in. I paid my eleven hundred dollars and my dad is like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm 25 years old and I want to be married and I want to have kids, and I'm not meeting anybody of quality. And I just closed like, some real estate money. So I had like a few thousand. And I was like, I'm gonna do two things. I'm gonna join Sports Club LA to find a rich industry person, which never worked. And my butt was still flat. And that was very expensive. And then down the street was great expectation. And so I did that. So I do my video and they're. They're like, you're gonna do really well. And I looked at. And I'm like, I don't think so. Like, I didn't think I looked cute. It wasn't good lighting, whatever. But it was just. Because I was just. Cause I probably was the youngest person doing it.

[B]

You answer the questions like, what are you. What are you looking for in a date?

[A]

Yeah, what do you like? And you know, and I was just like. I said, I'm a comedian or trying to do comedy or whatever.

[B]

And I shouldn't have said that.

[A]

And an actor. I did. I. But I said, I also do real estate. I'm like looking to get married and have kids. Like, that's just what I wanted, you.

[B]

Know, that's when I turn it right off. Comedian is looking to get married. Bye. Bye.

[A]

I mean, does anything sound. I used to say that. I used to say I could never be a female comedian because I'd watch it as a kid and I'd be like, I want to get married and have kids. And I don't think there's anything less attractive to a guy than to see this woman on stage talking about men.

[B]

I mean, it's gotten better anyway.

[A]

Well, men are more open to it. But anyway, I. I wasn't open to it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I wanted. I knew I had to do it because God gave me the gift. So I was like, how do I find.

[B]

So that's where they get these. Is from like Great Expectations.

[A]

Yeah. And so then I would go in and they'd be like, okay, you have all these requests. And then I would have to go in and they'd give me the tapes. And then, you know, I'm not very technical. So just even playing the VHS tape was like, challenging.

[B]

Do you take it home or you watch It.

[A]

No, you watch it like in a little library room.

[B]

Oh my God. That's why. Talk about it. A bygone era.

[A]

And so then I finally just walk up to the girl and I go, this is too overwhelming. Like, is. Who do you think on this list is even worth talking to? And she goes, this guy. And he was a 38 year old anesthesiologist. No, but it was like, first of all, height was a big deal because I was tall.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. And if, like I wanted someone who was Cathy if I could. But you know, and then, and then I. Anyway, so then I. When I saw his photo and he's like wearing like, he's in New York with like two normal people and he's wearing like a trench coat and like a nice suit and he lives in Manhattan beach and he's a 38 year old anesthesiologist. And I'm like, oh boy. And at the time I'm 25, 26, and I'm like, this is perfect.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But I went on some dates with him and he was nice, but I just wasn't feeling it, you know? And so then I just, you know, ghosted him and. And that was the end of that. But then, then I went out with this other guy who was cute. He was Mormon. I didn't really understand what Mormon was. I just thought it was like being a Protestant or whatever. Until he told me, no, I give 10% of all my money to the church. Forever. Yeah, 10%. I was like, no goodbye to that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so then that it ended. I. Yeah, it was a big waste of money. Except I have the story to tell, but I'm dying for someone to find mine. I don't know if this is true though. It's too funny. It's too dead on. Except if the people are this talented as sketch players and comedians, they would have a following on TikTok and we would recognize.

[B]

I agree, I agree. So there was one. I don't know if it's that lady that you have photograph right there or one that came out just recently. That was so good.

[A]

What was she saying?

[B]

She was just talking about, you know, and I'm looking for someone who wouldn't hire a lawyer. Yes, that woman. It was so funny.

[A]

And yeah.

[B]

And I was like, I thought. Started to think, this has to be a sketch.

[A]

Yeah. This girl was like, yeah, I'll tell you, sometimes I do a round kick in bed. Like, I am not a great sleeper, but I'll sleep with you. Like, it's all that. It's I truly feel like it's 1996. I'm in the Groundlings and I'm doing, you know, it's. It's a level three and I have to do a monologue.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is how you write the comedic monologue. This is how you create the character, the backstory, the jokes.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That's exactly what it feels like. So I'm like, I can't believe that this is. That they just found these tapes and that they would have access to them and there would be no legality. And not one person has come forward and been like, holy, that's me. Or that's my mom.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Like, I can't. So.

[B]

Or maybe they have. I haven't heard it.

[A]

If you guys have, can you please write me? Because I'm dying to know.

[B]

Like, because it's. It's so funny. They're so. Yeah, but they are as edited. They're editing like the clips together.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So to make it look like that's one. You know, they're saying funny things constantly.

[A]

But maybe, maybe that's. It could be real that it's edited. But I just. I need to know the truth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I need to know the truth. Oh, this is another thing I just thought was interesting. This just came out. Page six. George Clooney will no longer get too close to his female co stars on the screen. After having a serious conversation with his wife Amal, regarding the matter. I thought, first of all, I feel like we haven't seen him in a movie in a long time.

[B]

Well, he's got a movie out currently, but yeah. That's on Netflix. Movie.

[A]

And you've been married like a pretty long time.

[B]

And he's also like, how many movies that were 70 year old guys are kissing? You know what I mean?

[A]

And also. Yeah. That you would even care. I feel like this is just a fake story.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To get people to think that they have like a hot, passionate marriage.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Jealous. And you marry George CLOONEY and then 10 years later you're like, you know what?

[B]

No more kissing. Yeah. Of. I can't think of the last time he kissed a woman on camera.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. I feel like. Isn't he doing like Nespresso commercials with Bradley Cooper's new face? Like, God, that is terrifying. He was like, that was like, did Bradley Cooper put on a Barry Manila mask? Like, I am shocked that.

[B]

What is it though? I'm looking at it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I think it's the hair.

[A]

It's a hair Transplant.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe he was wearing a wig. I mean, remember how sexy he was in the, in the stars born?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, where is that guy? I feel like that guy was like that, you know, his rough character. And now it's like his face is like this and his hair is like that and he's, he's, I mean, he looks like a completely different person.

[B]

And it's so weird to me, like if, if Bradley Cooper's going in for that kind of, none of us have a chance. You know, I mean like he, there's a, there's a guy who's like a top 1% good looking where everyone else, we're all just ugly losers for the most part.

[A]

I just think plastic surgery is something where you get lucky. Sometimes it's the right doctor, but sometimes you have the right face that can be like subtly lifted where people don't see it. And other times it's just very dramatic. And like there's not a doubt in my mind that Brad Pitt has had some type of facelift.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And it looks great. They just didn't go too far. Bradley Cooper. It's something about the cheekbones and the nose.

[B]

What I'm hearing is the eyes. When you start messing with the eyes.

[A]

You got to, when you take the hooded lid, when you get that lid away, like Mandy Moore just did it and you just look like a different person.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Remember when Renee Zellweger did it too? Yeah. I think those hooded eyes are sexy and pretty. I don't, I don't, I don't like when people get rid of them.

[B]

I think that makes hooded eyelids like so much so that I went and wake up in the morning. It's scary.

[A]

No, you have just normal like aged eyelids. I'm saying, I'm saying when that is your look at like 12, that's your, that's your eye look. You don't have the bone here. I think that is a pretty look. Like, I think that's a sexy look. I don't know why people get rid of it.

[B]

The great thing I have is if you ever want to know how ugly you are, you have a six year old daughter who stares lovingly into my face every, every morning. And I think something beautiful is coming from her. She's going to tell me how great I am as a daddy and she will just go, do you know what? And then she'll talk about something that I've been, I have been, you know, insecure about my entire life. You have like fat eyes. Like, oh, thank you, honey.

[A]

I remember My mom was like having like a dinner party and I was like 4. And this I remember when I was like 15, some lady reminded me of it. I did remember the memory. And I was like 4 and I just sat out, I want to come and sit on her lap and be a part of the thing. And she said something like, oh, you've got stinky feet, or whatever. Like, I was running around barefoot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And in front of all these people. And I looked at her and I go, oh, are those your real eyelashes? And the ladies all laughed. And then I took off because I was like, you telling me that my feet smell in front of your friend when I saw you place those big eyelashes on your, on your face. 1960s, the 70s eyelashes, you know. Anyway, let's move on. Okay, let's. Now we're getting to the end of.

[B]

The year, wrap up the year.

[A]

The biggest moments that you and I have talked about and enjoyed, some of which we have not 20, 25, but I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night and I go, we will never see the documentary that Nicole Parker from. And just like that was working on. Oh, is that the black lady about, about, you know, successful black women throughout history. Michelle Obama was supposed to show up.

[B]

Was going to narrate it. She get that out of nowhere.

[A]

And then she got that, that, that editor that looked like he was ready to, like, be a gigolo, you know, with earrings and style. I'm like, that's not what a film editor looks like. But, okay, whatever. And, yeah, I sometimes wake up and I just go, I'm so sad that you and I are never going to be able to rip on the show again. They ended it. They ripped it out from under. They were like.

[B]

And it was a rip out. It was like a sudden, we're done.

[A]

It was truly. I truly felt like it was one of those moments where it's like. And this is why we can't have anything nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because of podcasters. Because you guys talked too much. Our writers and our stars heard you rip on us too much. And we were like, you know what? We're rich. We don't need to do this. Sarah Jessica Parker and Michael Patrick King. You, Heather and Chris, Right? Fuck you.

[B]

I agree. And I really do think we killed it.

[A]

I am so sad.

[B]

I know. And do you think they'll ever be? I mean, at this point, I doubt it. But can they, can they do one more thing, one other, like three years from now?

[A]

I pray, I pray that they could do it. You know, it's Like, I do feel like a little bit like it's like a Kathy Bates where like I want to like kidnap someone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Be like, we've kidnapped Michael Patrick King. And yeah. And we're like, we just need you guys to do like six more episodes. I need all the weird stuff. I need the lazy. I need you to sing Karaoke for 22 minutes of the 30 minute show.

[B]

I need to see. I need to see somebody breaking up a trans and a toilet bowl, you know, or whatever that was at the.

[A]

Like, I mean, Thanksgiving episode.

[B]

Gotten any. It got. It was so cringe. Like, I hate using that word, but there's no other word to explain it. It's just so cringe. It was you. I would watch it literally, like, I.

[A]

Would just under the covers, I would.

[B]

Watch it like through. Like I was watching a horror film, you know, just like, this is. How is it going to get worse? And then it would get worse.

[A]

It would get worse, it would get lamer. And then when I started listening to their podcast, I couldn't even do that. That's when I cracked the code and was like, who are these dorks that should have just been English teachers at an all girl high school in the 80s? Why are they writing so Sex of the City? Like, what the hell is this?

[B]

Of all the good writers out there that they could have gotten. Like, what, what are they doing anyway?

[A]

I'll never. I'll.

[B]

Well, farewell, rest in peace.

[A]

And just like that. Rest in peace. I also want to say, what's up with the UFO in New Jersey? The UFO story, it was a big story. We all wondered, is this the end? Are they testing us? Whatever. I looked it up a little bit. I guess they're just still going over New Jersey and they just stop talking about it. But like, we never found out they're alien aliens or what? Or if they were just surveillancing things. If it was Blackrock, if it was.

[B]

China, there's a million different, you know, conspiracies on what it is.

[A]

But the New Jersey people just said, well, I guess we'll never know. Yeah, just going on.

[B]

Aliens everywhere. They're everywhere. They're over our house. They see them every day. They're aliens.

[A]

Do you remember the other story where like someone filmed like an alien ship over Vegas and it like landed in someone's backyard in Henderson?

[B]

Yeah. And it had like. Yeah, they had like the thing running. I mean, now those are like, now.

[A]

Now I'm like everything. I'm like, I won't believe anything.

[B]

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[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who they have yet to arrest.

[B]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

And every day this is a new one. Page six. Just today, burn cage incinerator reportedly found at David's rented Hollywood home after teen's body discovered in the trunk of a Tesla that he owned.

[B]

He had a like a cage to burn people.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, don't you have one in Tarzana?

[B]

I call it a barbecue, but yeah. I mean I never even heard of such a thing.

[A]

Oh, is that interesting. We found that. Well, we need to get all our evidence together before we arrest anybody in this case. Stop asking.

[B]

I mean, this is pretty wild that they haven't had a suspect yet. And I mean, how many more things do they gotta. It's wild.

[A]

I don't know. Like, what is this? Of course, the Diddy. The Diddy. Did you watch the Diddy doc?

[B]

I did not watch the documentary because, you know, I just don't have the time to watch anything. But I've heard all about it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And yeah.

[A]

I mean, so one thing.

[B]

Do I need to watch it?

[A]

I mean, now that you've heard so much, maybe not. Like, I always feel like that you're too late knit. I watched it that weekend and I thought the same thing. What are they going to tell me? I fought. I covered this so much.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it was really interesting.

[B]

I heard it's like a lot of it. Most of it actually, pre. You know, the baby oil.

[A]

Yeah. And that's kind of cool because it's like we were living in it. We were seeing those things and there were things that we thought were weird. Like him dancing around at the MTV's where I'm like, I remember watching that and he's dancing around to, you know, the Biggie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tribute. And I remember seeing, like, going, why is P. Diddy dancing? Like, is he supposed to be like a good dancer? Like, I remember thinking that. But then also feeling like, oh, he really loves his friend and this is sad and whatever.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So they get into that and they get into that and. But they don't really get into the mysterious death of Kim Porter, who was his. I don't know if they were ever married, but he had three kids. Three or four kids with her, and they were broken up and she was supposed to write a book and then she got pneumonia and died. And, you know, the day. That day, you know, like, Corey Gamble is there and you know that's Chris's boyfriend. And all these people are like talking about it and the connections and people like, what is this? So this guy did a video saying, like, I think there's gonna be another part to this. Yeah, that. That gets into that. And then Diddy. Not. Did he. Sorry. Then 50 Cent reposted that video. So I do think there might be more.

[B]

Well, it's getting, like, huge numbers over Netflix, so they must be letting. Netflix is dying for more, I would imagine.

[A]

You know, so, I mean, but also, where is that. Wait, hold on. Drake. What is the woman that would always. That would always. In the beginning that would do all the podcasts that was.

[B]

She had like a one name. What wasn't like one name?

[A]

Chris is still working, trying to find the name of the woman that we would talk about a lot. And I cannot think of her name, but she was the first, I believe, sort of whistleblower about P. Diddy. She would also say Jay Z was part of it. And I can't believe I don't remember her name. But we have not seen her in a while, which makes me nervous. And why we can't find her name on the Internet also makes me nervous. But she would say like, everybody knows that the diddler diddled everybody else because that's what Jay Z wanted.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Jay Z and he were like, every time someone asked her a question, she'd be like, how do you not know that they're, you know, like eating babies on the private jet? She's like, everybody knows.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's rock Cornish, game hands and then there's little babies that you cook. Know that? Yeah, everybody knows this. And she was like a singer who got screwed over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then was just doing all these podcast interviews and like, I remember I mentioned her and I did a clip and I tagged her and she like shared it or liked it, but then literally she has disappeared. We cannot find her. So I'm sure you're driving in your car and you're screaming at me. Yeah, sorry that we cannot remember her name, but I hope she, she's safe. And I would like to, you know what, do a documentary on her.

[B]

So ultimately the, from the documentary that you watch, it just, it's basically, it's four episodes. That's JD's a scumbag. Right? I mean, that is the conclusion.

[A]

He's a door. He's a dorky, jealous scumbag. That's what it is. And not talented and very evil, very manipulative and, and insinuating that he had more to do with these deaths than we ever even imagined.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's really what it is. Okay. The Louvre. Oh, the art, the, the, that big robbery.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, jewelry. What's the lady? Yeah, the jewelry. They have a couple guys, but they've never recovered the jewelry.

[B]

Yeah, but were those guys real? Remember they had like two real handsome guys that they posted pictures of online saying, these are the suspects.

[A]

But did one look like Luigi?

[B]

Kind of. Yeah, they were like real good looking guys. Was like one of those things where this can't be true. That. Yeah, it's like right out of a movie. But maybe it was. That was a good one.

[A]

And now they're like, the people that work in the museum are, like, on strike right now. Oh, I had Brandon, like, look it up. Yeah. So I don't know. I. How this. How this. That was the craziest thing that they were able to steal that.

[B]

Yeah. It was a good one.

[A]

Don't you think that had to be, like, an inside thing?

[B]

Well, I'm sure some people say. Say that. Yeah.

[A]

Well, they're just like, I'll leave the back door open. Like, okay. What about our girls going in space?

[B]

This might have been the biggest story of the year. I mean, you forget about it. But this was. I mean, for. We ran with this one for, like, two months. Everyone had their joke. It nearly ended Katy Perry's career, you know, But Gail King just water off her back. She didn't even. She was there. You hear a word about it.

[A]

Yeah, she went. And she was, you know, she's happy that she and Gail are at Lauren Sanchez's wedding.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they're, you know, laughing it up, and they got to go. And I. Yeah, I think Gail King handled it correctly. Just acting like we went. It was fun. Don't be a jealous now. There was a lot of conspiracy theory around that. If you really went.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And then how they had to wait for Jeff Bezos to open the door.

[B]

And it was already open because they, like, opened and shut it again. Like, oops. Yeah.

[A]

People comparing it to, like, the moon landing.

[B]

Yeah. It was a weird one.

[A]

What do you think happened? Do you think they went or not?

[B]

I mean, I think they went, but it certainly wasn't like. I think they just go up, and once you're at a certain level, I think that's considered space.

[A]

Yeah. Like space mountain, Right. Yeah.

[B]

You go up high enough. I mean, I think I did it in Albuquerque a couple of weeks ago. We landed in a Home Depot parking lot. But, yeah, I think it's. I think it's, like. And you just come back down. Yeah, I think, like, unless you're, like, 12 minutes all. All said and done.

[A]

Like, unless you're, like, landing on another planet and you're walking around on another planet, I think that's what everyone thought.

[B]

It was going to be then.

[A]

Then I don't think there's, like, that much to tell.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you're just looking out the window. And then she brought, like, things for her. You know, she made it an Instagram moment, which. Kind of smart, like, you're doing. You know, I'd definitely be taking Some selfies.

[B]

Right.

[A]

If I was in space, yeah, I would. And then.

[B]

But then what happened was she was already like, people like, oh, she's annoying. And I think that was the first time people started to realize maybe she's annoying. And then they really started to go after like her choreography at her shows and stuff.

[A]

Yeah, she's like, yeah.

[B]

She couldn't win. That was like a no win. And now you know.

[A]

Yeah, that's another one where all of a sudden what the Internet does now.

[B]

They flood in the water, they see blood in the water and then everyone goes for it.

[A]

And all of a sudden you, you look back and you're like, yeah, why did we think that was cool? Yeah, why didn't we question Diddy dancing around Biggie's funeral? Like, when you're not a dancer or singer. Yeah, why didn't. Like, it's like those things where it's like, I can't. What were we thinking? Like, what were we being fed and how weird it was and same thing with her. Like, yeah, like, I mean, she has some good heads.

[B]

Oh, absolutely.

[A]

And I don't think that, I think once you become a judge on American Idol or whatever. I don't. I think it like lowers your brand a little bit. Like I, I don't think I agree. You know, you don't see Celine Dion or Adele doing that. Like, I think it's like you want to stay at that level. And I think. Or Beyonce. And so I think when she did that. And then she's trying to do it too, where everyone's like, well, it's not a big coup.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, if we're seeing you every night, like flirt with some 18 year old boy who's trying to sing on ABC or Fox or whatever it is, is it? That's what I'm saying. Like it should be special, right, that you want to go see her. So then she falls in love with the Canadian former prime minister. What do you think about that relationship?

[B]

Too fast. Everybody jumped in. He. He's recently divorced, I believe. And she was. I mean, that, yeah. Orlando Bloom thing was not that long ago. All sudden, right back.

[A]

And they have a kid, right?

[B]

Yeah, they had one or two, I'm sure.

[A]

And then. Yeah. And then she was trying to steal the home from the nuns, which she did not succeed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But she did get the home from the old vet in Santa Monica or Santa Barbara. Yeah. So that didn't help either.

[B]

I mean, that old vet must have a pretty nice house if Katy Perry's going after it. You Know what I mean?

[A]

Like Right.

[B]

What kind of house is this? It can't be some.

[A]

His daughter in law. They was a former real housewife of Dallas.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think it was really nice. But there is now a Katie called the Katy Perry law. I saw that in effect where you know, I mean every time we're driving around any place in Los Angeles and you just see like that old. That older dilapidated house. How many visits is that old lady getting from a realtor every day? Hi, Betty. Betty, hi. Right. Janice Cole Baker again. Just wanted to see my son's here to help with some Christmas lights. Or. Or you could sell it and never have to put on Christmas lights again. Yeah, let's. So I think something happened where no one was visiting him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And may he, you know. And then someone said hey, we'll do this deal. This is an appropriate price. And maybe it was an appropriate price.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But then he was like wait, I don't want to sell. So that's what happened. So in. In essence it was her representatives that did all that. So you know. But it didn't help that she also tried to take the home from the nuts. Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, I wish her the best. Go. Good luck with this guy. You know her and a Canadian boyfriend.

[A]

Yeah. If you. If you.

[B]

If you.

[A]

If you have a relative sitting on a coveted big property in a nice area of la. But maybe it's a little old of her house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Watch out for Katie P. Coming by. Yeah.

[A]

California girls. Okay. And then finally our girl Taylor did get engaged and he.

[B]

And now his team, you know, isn't doing well. No, they're out of the playoffs and make the playoffs and Holmes just port towards acl. I mean they. They have maybe the worst season they've had in 10 years.

[A]

So do you think this is the end?

[B]

Oh, he doesn't come.

[A]

He's definitely not coming back.

[B]

He's out of football as soon as this season. He can't wait for the season to be over.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, they're done.

[A]

Do you think that's a bummer like that he just didn't end it because they won last year, right?

[B]

Yes. No, not last year but the year before.

[A]

But they were regret like they always go as a football fan like should I leave on top like when I now that I'm an athlete.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I play pickleball.

[B]

Pickleball?

[A]

Yes, pickleball. Pickleball goes to 6 sometimes around 5:35 I've won a game.

[B]

Oh, you mean you play till 6, right? Yeah, like 6pm People like, would you.

[A]

Like to play again? And now I'm like, I think I should leave on top.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

I won a game. Yeah, I won my game. And like, why keep going? Why just like, am. I feel like I.

[B]

When I see people play pickleball, I see it, you know, around town. Is that something else or is it is as easy as that? It is. I thought they were practicing for pickleball and someone told me, no, that's actually the pickleball. Them hitting a little plastic ball from a foot away.

[A]

I am telling you, it is easy. I'm an extremely unathlet. Unathletic person.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It is easy.

[B]

So that's why people are into it.

[A]

But you got to play with people at your level. Otherwise it's not easy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, there are people that are so good, you won't be able to return one ball.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So that's why you kind of get at people. But. But once you go, you're like, oh, my God, like, I can keep a rally. Which, you know, with tennis, it can take years for you to, like, get to play a rally.

[B]

So.

[A]

And then it's. You need. You really kind of. You can play with one person. We really kind of need four.

[B]

And so on that small court, there's two on each side.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you're really not doing.

[A]

I don't. I don't know that I like losing any weight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or building like a calf muscle.

[B]

I'm gonna probably know.

[A]

But I do think it gets you outside. It's fun and really what it's good for as we get older.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like they said, there's three things that really help keep your mind sharp, exercise wise. One is walking or running while you listen to something. So that is really good. For podcasts.

[B]

I do it.

[A]

Yeah. Listen to the podcast. Not music. Actually listening to like a book or something.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

While you're walking will, like, keep dementia away. And then pickleball and golf are both really good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know, they're not too hard on you, but they'll. People say there's a lot of injuries in pickleball. I. I did get hurt the other day, but I try not. I don't. I don't try to go for balls or anything. I'm like, who cares? But no, it's. It's just like, fun. And that's where I made. That's where I made my two friends.

[B]

Yeah. The Canadian and the other one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

Canadian. The. The, like. Yeah, former. She's. Does music but she also is like an interior designer and she's like, cool and like everybody's had kids the same age and like, whatever, they're. So anyway, with, with Taylor. When is the wedding happening? Do we know yet?

[B]

I mean, I. I've heard the mixed things. You know, it's going to be in Delaware, I believe, where she has that house. And that's all I know of it.

[A]

You know, I will never. And I'm gonna get the Swifties after me. They're gonna kill me right now.

[B]

Don't shoot. Don't do it.

[A]

No. I just don't understand her hair color.

[B]

Okay. Like, what's.

[A]

It's just, it's the epitome of why my mom would say is like a mousy brown.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't understand why it's not like a deeper brown or high or more blonde. The bangs are weird. But that's her thing. I think she's got a really pretty face.

[B]

Yeah, she's good.

[A]

I just will never understand that hair color.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, she.

[A]

But it's. I guess it's unique to her because nobody else would ever choose it.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, there's no fighting something or she's the biggest star in the world. It's just like whatever she's doing.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

But it's not for me. I don't think it's for me. Like I. The music and everything. Sometimes I try and I'm like, this is the one. We're going insane.

[A]

Yeah, but.

[B]

But I would imagine if you're a 15 year old girl, it means everything, you know? You know, I'm let him have it.

[A]

But it all come down to the podcast because she said, you know, she finally agreed to go on his podcast and then she got the ring. Yeah, he was holding out. She knew she finally got it. Either he said it or she figured out and she's like, if I don't go on this podcast, I'm never getting engaged. And right after she did it, sure enough, she went to the backyard and got her diamond.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And podcasts, you know, can cause a lot of problems. And to bring back. I don't know if you saw this, but this one friend of Nick Reiner, you know, with the whole Rob Reiner thing, he had a podcast, he went on and he used to have Nick on a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they were friends. And then the podcast host, you know, did what everybody wants. Oh, my God, can I get a better guest out of my friend? His dad is the biggest writer, director, person. So then he said, hey, do you think for my. Whatever. Hundredth episode.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Would you ask your dad if he would come and be a guest on my podcast? And that made Nick never talk to him again.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Because it was. Again, I'm the guest on this show, and now you're trying to, like, get my dad. And it must have made him feel like you're. I'm not important to you. And it's like, no, you're important to me. But, like, how cool it would be, since we're friends, if I get your dad on. Yeah, that would be amazing. Could you ask him for me? And it's always like. I mean, I even remember, like, there was a scene in Real Houses of Beverly Hills years ago where Camille was married to Kelsey Grammer, and she got so, so mad at Kyle because she thought that Kyle said something like, people only want you around because of Kelsey. And it's like, what? Yeah, you know, like, it's. It's when your dad or your husband or it's such a famous person.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if you're not, you find the resentment, and it's like, he just. That was it. And it's like, please don't. Please don't befriend someone and make them feel that you're. That they want to be on the podcast and then go. Who I really want is sometimes after.

[B]

Like, one of my real shitty shows that I do all over the country, you know, I'll play some bar or something, and afterwards the owner will go, hey, did you have a fun time? I'm like, yeah, it was nice. Thank you so much. Do you think Heather would do this? And I always go, let me just stop you there. No way does that happen. Nothing against you or your establishment, but that's just not happening. So I have to deal with it sometimes, too.

[A]

Well, I'm glad that you take it. Yeah. With stride.

[B]

I saved you from having.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The.

[B]

This. The Sydney Sweeney had the biggest year. I think if you had to pick somebody.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Who had the biggest year, it was her.

[A]

I think she should get Woman of the Year, but I think they're gonna make an AI person.

[B]

Yo, they already did. Time magazine made it. Some AI, like the people who created AI or something. That's what they did.

[A]

Whatever.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, this girl, Sydney Sweeney, she made the mistake. I said, she made the mistake of going ugly herself up for that boxing movie too soon, and it bombed. She said, like, three bombs in a row. But I. Nobody seems to care about that.

[A]

No.

[B]

Because now she's just become the girl who we want to looks good on the red carpet.

[A]

So it's not even about Phenomenal last night. Oh, she had like a Marilyn Monroe titties be titting.

[B]

Oh, she's. She's giving it people. She's got. I got the tits and I'll show you the tits. Like she's not. I'm not hiding these.

[A]

And actually the movie that she's in, based on a book which I've not read. Something about, you know, nannies and, and cheating and murder. I mean, I don't know what it is.

[B]

I read an okay review.

[A]

It said it's my kind of film.

[B]

Amanda Seafood.

[A]

And I think, yeah, I think I want to go and see it hopefully like with my sister at like a fancy movie theater. And that will be the one thing I will go see in a movie theater possibly this holiday.

[B]

The lay down movie theater.

[A]

The lay down with the bartenders.

[B]

Yeah, I have, I. I had a. A thing just. I float Delta 1. You ever fly Delta 1?

[A]

Maybe once I have.

[B]

Anyway.

[A]

Do you have a full lay down?

[B]

Yeah, the full lay down. And I flew it to New York.

[A]

Lovely.

[B]

Great. It's the greatest. Anyway, so I'm like. But it's weird. If you do it overnight, it works because you got to sleep. But if you just got up and it's like an 8am flight, like what do I do? Lie back down. But anyway, you feel like you have to.

[A]

Yeah, I eat every single thing.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

I remember one time I was on a flight next and it was Whitney Cummings and I was years ago and she has like some. She was having some strict diet, whatever. She turned down every free food. I was like, I will have every nut.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Ice cream sundae. I. I don't care if I. And I might have just had a huge breakfast in the lounge.

[B]

I did this. So anyway, they, at the very end, they give you a little tiny chocolate. Thank you. And the woman, for whatever reason she was busy, she. She went by me with the chocolate and I was gonna get. I thank God I didn't. I was gonna complain, like, excuse me, where's my chocolate? Like, I needed the tiny piece anyway. Right.

[A]

But it was included.

[B]

I know I wanted everything.

[A]

What is it such a fancy first class where it had like the menu written out.

[B]

Yes, the menu written out. And then of course the bed lies completely down. So you have to. You can't sit straight up because you have the ability to lie down. You gotta lie down. It's noon on a Wednesday. But you gotta lie Down. So anyway, I'm lying down, and I figure when you're dead, lying down straight, I figured this is kind of like, this is your signal to tell the flight attendant, don't talk to me. I'm. I'm resting. Yeah, but they still talk to you and, like, hand. And I thought it was so weird. I felt like I was like, would you like a chocolate chip cookie? I'm like, sure. Reaching up and grabbing like, I'm a toddler. And I was like, I don't know. I feel like we shouldn't be handing each other food while I'm lying down anyway. I don't know.

[A]

Also, I do that. No, I do that too. And then also, like, I want to so many drinks. Like, I'm like, can I have an ice water and a diet Coke? And I'll have a chardonnay. And so then my drinks are like, all in the middle, where the guy is like, what is this girl doing? Like, I'm just like, I know.

[B]

You just got to take full advantage of it because you never know when it's all going to go away. Anyway, back to Sid. I think you said you want to see her movie in a theater.

[A]

I want to see her movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I guess. Do you think her whole. What did you think of the jeans thing? Oh, do you think she handled it correctly and getting out of it?

[B]

Handle it exactly how you should have handled it. Handle it. She. She nailed it.

[A]

You just can't win. And you just have to be like.

[B]

Yeah, when she said that, that woman, like, if I have something I want to talk about, you'll hear about it. Like, yeah, I'm not talking about that. Or whatever.

[A]

Right. I mean, you gotta shut it down.

[B]

I think the jeans ad was great. Yeah, I don't think she was. I honestly, until people started talking about it, I didn't even understand what the controversy was. I get it now.

[A]

Right, But.

[B]

And then it was like something about genetics. And I'm like, well, she's. Obviously, some people are just genetically blessed. I mean, she's one of them. Like, get over it. I mean, some people. I wish I had the time in my life to be mad.

[A]

I. I think sometimes people just go, there's this new thing called the. Oh, my God, what is it called? The bean theory that people are talking about. And it's like something. Bean theory. And it's because people are, like, finally reacting to, like, the comments of something where someone did a. A recipe and they're like, I'm going to tell you my favorite bean Dip or something. And people were like, what if I don't like beans? And they're like, yeah, why? If it's not for you? Like, why do you have to. Not everything has to be for you. And it's like this weird entitlement in the comments of like, finally people are like, no, just move. You don't need to say what is going. Yeah. What you don't like about the bean dip. Like, just move on. It's the same thing. It's like you analyze this thing too far down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To get angry about it when it was just a. It was a little mocking of Brook Shields, Calvin Klein.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And jeans are blue. They're called blue jeans. That was it.

[B]

Yeah. I don't, I don't think I've ever seen Sydney Sweeney like act. I don't think I've ever seen him. I mean, I feel like I see her every single day.

[A]

She was really. Got her start in euphoria.

[B]

Yeah. I knew that.

[A]

And that was.

[B]

Never watch that. I don't want to watch a bunch of 14 year olds, you know, rubbing on each other. It's not what it is. It's like sexual. It's very sexual. Right. And drug addict and sexual.

[A]

It was. And it was like disturbing. But then. But it was juicy and it was good. And. And then also she was played like the daughter in the first season of Lotus, which was good.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So now we're going to talk about the wicked love. I did make a mistake this year in which I made a topic out of something that wasn't real.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Which they. I thought that they had announced Ariana Grande and Cynthia that they were in a semi Demi.

[B]

It was like an onion.

[A]

Yes. Not in binary, whatever relationship. But I really thought it was real. And I still, I still was like, yeah, it sounds like they're not sexual, but they're more than friends. Which I do think that they are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like there's something more here that like is just, you know, anyway.

[B]

I think they're just too quirky people. You know, I feel like that Ariana Grande. I don't know what's going on over there, but you know, I mean she's doing. She's in like Meet the Parent and there's. They're making a new Meet the Parents and she's going to be the daughter in it. So I feel like she can do.

[A]

And then she brings hope. Cynthia, that would be the best.

[B]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

No, that's what's going to. You know what that's going to be the new Meet the Parents. Because the original. Meet the Parents. No, no. Meet the Parents. I was thinking, guess who's coming home from. Okay. Guess who's coming to dinner Was Sidney Poitier Was a white girl brings a black man home for dinner.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then they've done a version of that where it's like a black family brings the white guy home for dinner. Like over the years. Guess who's coming over. That's what I was thinking. But Meet the Parents was the really funny movie with Ben Stiller.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Robert De Niro. So then it'll be like a com. It'll just be like a whole another version of younger people going through people.

[B]

Anyway, she's in that. Which, I mean, when she does, like. I mean, she can be funny. I've seen her like, do characters and stuff on Jimmy Fallon.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, she can.

[B]

The person that she is in on red carpets and stuff. I don't even know what that is. Like, it's just very strange.

[A]

Yeah. That was. That was also a conspiracy theory that they, like, you know, there was something about the dramatic weight loss of like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Starving themselves on this set or whatever. I'm just glad it's over.

[B]

Wicked.

[A]

Yeah. And I feel like people didn't really talk about the second installment because it.

[B]

Happened too quick after the first one. I don't know which one was which. Well, people were outside that didn't get nominated for a Golden Globe or something, but that I had heard the snot was a snub.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I did any. I didn't. Any hit songs come from that.

[B]

Not that I know of. But, you know, once again, on my world.

[A]

What about the Riyadh Comedy Festival? Are you. Do you think it's going to happen again next year? And who's going to participate?

[B]

Everybody.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What, now it's over.

[A]

Now it's over. And it didn't hurt anybody.

[B]

Career. And they all made $2 million.

[A]

Yeah. Like, do you think the people that turned it down. No, because they gain anything from it besides a couple Twitter followers?

[B]

Well, the one guy who.

[A]

Their self respect.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Who famously turned it down was Shane Gill.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And he's doing fine, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sold out like a football stadium in Philadelphia. So, yeah.

[A]

You make it up in other ways. And he. And you know, when you're that funny and talented, you're not gonna run out of opportunities. So it's like you'll keep continuing to grow and be funny.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But then. But then the thing is. And I talked about this the time. Well, now that you've turned it down, will you ever be asked back or will they want you to do it since you turn it down? Because in that culture, it's like the ultimate, like, kissing of the ring.

[B]

Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if it did what they wanted it to do. You know, they wanted to make Saudi Arabia seem like we're. We're progressive and we're coming around. And I don't know if it worked. They'll do it again, but if not, who cares?

[A]

All right. What do you think about the whole six, seven thing?

[B]

Oh, don't even get me started. My daughter. For a minute we were on it. Six, seven, six, seven. Yeah. I don't even know what. But whatever we live in.

[A]

It was from a.

[B]

But that. But then I heard it wasn't. It wasn't. Then it was some kid who did it on Tik Tok. And I don't. Yeah, it's initially from a song.

[A]

I mean, we use left. Our thing was 69 and that wasn't.

[B]

69 was a sexual position.

[A]

I So. I know. So I'm saying these kids, we all complain that these kids are like all up in advance. They're like, they're just laughing about two numbers. Like what became. What came after 8, 6, 7 or whatever.

[B]

Did you see that?

[A]

What's that thing that. What was that thing?

[B]

Like eight, eight, six and six, eight, seven.

[A]

Yeah. Six.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Huh? Yeah. The. It's my daughter's favorite joke, by the way. Anyway, they. Did you see that? In and out just took off. Said they're not gonna have six, seven anymore when they're calling out your number. Oh.

[A]

Because the kids are going crazy.

[B]

They were like, wait in the in and outs for it to happen to say six, seven. And they would go crazy and jump up and down. And they were viraling it all over. Whatever. So now In N Out has decided that taking six hours.

[A]

I'm actually sad about that because I thought that was such good clean fun.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, reminded me of like the 1950s when people would go to the diners. All these kids at the in and out excited for that dorky moment. Like.

[B]

Yeah, it's like the dorky moment they did in that movie. That one. The movie that was out this year too, where they said something about. It was a movie, Jack Black and About a video game or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they all jumped up and down in the theater when they said chicken jockey, you know, chicken jacking. All a little 14 year old yeah, for the clean fun like that. At least they're not.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I saw this one video where this guy has like his two or three year old daughter and he goes, my daughter's so hip or whatever. And he takes the carry pants over and she goes 67. And it's Jesus. Like this. It was a poster of Jesus like in their house. And she's like, six, seven and six. Started thinking it was Jesus.

[B]

Yeah. So anyway, I don't, you know, it's wild. Six, seven. I don't get it, but it's not for me.

[A]

Once again, this door dash driver was arrested for pepper spraying a customer's food.

[B]

She said she was spraying like a. Something was approaching her. I mean, it's.

[A]

And. But then she still dropped off the food.

[B]

Yeah, she put the food down. I watched the video. She put the food down and then she sprays like in the general direction of the food. Food. She's spraying it on it and she's saying the cat was coming toward her or something.

[A]

How scary is a cat?

[B]

But like when a doordash person does something weird, it's like, well, of course they're fucking delivering. You know what I mean? Like, who do you think's delivering doordash? The fucking president of Google? There are obviously oddballs, you know, not to say so I know some people have to make a buck and I'm not shitting on that, but I mean, there's an outside chance they might be a little strange.

[A]

I am like, I don't even know that. I. I don't even have the app. I don't. I have to ask somebody to do it for me. I don't even know how to do it.

[B]

It is shocking.

[A]

I'm always like, it doesn't ever taste as good because it traveled. And it's so expensive. Right.

[B]

With like tip. And if you want to get there faster, you could put more on it. Could cost like $40 for, you know, just one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hamburger.

[A]

Wow. What do you think about Beyonce? How people were all. That was another thing where people all realized all the times that people would get awards and then have to thank her and what that conspiracy theory was like, you know how scary like the Illuminati was that they had to thank her over and over again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you think? Do you think that was a real thing or not?

[B]

I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's the Illuminati, a real thing. And who do you. I'd like to be in it. I mean, what do you have to where do you go? What do you have to do?

[A]

I.

[B]

You haven't been asked yet.

[A]

No, definitely not. I don't. I don't think there's a real Illuminati per se. Yeah, I think there's something where. Whatever it is, whether it's Diddy or one or something, where you, as you rise, you might have done. You end up doing something that you are not proud of to get to the next level.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And maybe people somehow know about it, but I don't ever think there's. The thing about a conspiracy is like whenever I'm like, I don't think that would work because if it's more than like two or three people, I don't believe that you can like keep a secret for like 40 years.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, I don't believe that you could. So I'm like, so I don't think there's a group that's all meeting. What do you think about when they say there's tunnels all over under la? Well, is that. How wouldn't we know that as a fact or not?

[B]

Yes, I, I believe. I mean, I. I'm the worst person to ask this because I, I think. I don't believe in any conspiracy theories. I feel like everything just happened. But that's. I know, but I mean, also a naive way to think.

[A]

But we don't know for a fact if there's tunnels. All tunnels.

[B]

I've heard that like there are different.

[A]

Tunnels that you could drive in. Not drive, but only celebrities could drive in.

[B]

No, no, no. I think that's crazy. But I think there were tunnels. I believe Charlie Chaplin had made a series of tunnels or Houdini one of them, just so he could walk to like certain bar. This.

[A]

Oh, in Los Angeles.

[B]

Yes. Like there's. He has a house on Laurel Canyon. Houdini. And apparently there's a tunnel from that to like Sunset Boulevard. So he could walk to.

[A]

Oh, well, then that.

[B]

I heard things like that.

[A]

Isn't it sad that the old stars had to build a tunnel and the new stars are like calling paparazzi and live streaming their walk down to the. I mean, it is like, we are such a thirstier generation.

[B]

So weird what has happened to celebrity because like even Rob Reiner.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, the people who are like, this is the most devastating news. He was the greatest. We all loved his movies. And then there's those us, those people. And then there's a whole other 21 year old and below who have no idea who Rob Reiner is.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And they would. They Never would. They would never see any of his movies. They wouldn't see all in the Family. And so for them, like, this, like, celebrity now is just, I see you more. I see your face more on my phone, so therefore, you're a celebrity.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I mean? Which is only going to get worse. That's it.

[A]

Right. But, like, throughout life, I always remember my parents, like, talking. Like, I remember Carl Malden or that actress was, like, at a restaurant, and their parents were freaking out, and so they made me, the youngest one, go over and get the autograph. Like, looking at his, like, bulbous nose, I'm like, why am I asking? And then they're like, Heather got the. Like, they were so excited about it. Like, you know, like, we had the napkin with the guy's name on it, and I was just like.

[B]

And we were at a party a couple of days ago, and my. I've never seen my wife react to any. Like, she could give it. She could care less about any celebrity or show business. And she was, like, freaking out about this guy at this party. And I said, who? I don't even know who that is. She goes, he's got a. An Instagram where he does, like, funny things about zodiac signs.

[A]

Oh, I know that guy.

[B]

Yeah. And she was just like. You would have thought she had seen, like, Clint Eastwood. I'm like, that's. That's what we're freaking out about. She goes, it's the funniest thing. She, like, went up and talk. I mean, she was starstruck.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He.

[A]

He's blonde, right? Kind of blonde. Yeah. And no, he. He does this thing where it.

[B]

He. He does, like, people's horoscopes, reactions. Like, if you're a Gemini, this is the way you react.

[A]

Yeah. This is how you. This is how you'd react on Christmas morning. Whatever. And it's very funny. And I. As a Gemini, I feel like he's dead on.

[B]

Like, really?

[A]

Yeah. Yes. So then, yes, you would realize, like, like, yeah, it's a lot of just like, okay, you know, you know, or they forget and then, you know, somebody else. The Virgo. Who is the more. Like, it seems like Virgo people are a lot more like, either really anal or whatever their thing is, but he does something, and he. It never gets old. Like, it's very.

[B]

And we couldn't believe he was in the room.

[A]

See, isn't that great, though? That guy didn't have to screw anybody.

[B]

Or, you know, saying, like, the Illuminati is going to have to be something different now they're just going to have to K pop. K pop.

[A]

Demon Hunters was the biggest thing ever. Obviously you played a role well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In their success.

[B]

We had to have it in our lives. We had a lot of it. But as your Halloween outfit, it came and went pretty quickly in our house. I think my daughter now is like, yeah, we're done with it. And I'm like, and then they're having the sequel. They just announced the sequel, like, in 2029. 2029. They're all, nobody's gonna remember it back then, you know.

[A]

Well, they'll have to either get a.

[B]

Whole new audience or the audience went away.

[A]

I have Labubu right here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did your daughter ever get a Labubu?

[B]

Yes, we got many.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like four, But I think we got, like, counterfeit ones. You know, they were not. We didn't go, like, wait in line.

[A]

I thought it was so weird when, like, people, like, rich women were, like, putting them on their, like, $50,000.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Herme bags. I'm like, so glad. There's so many things, like, I've never. I never bought a Cabbage Patch doll. I never bought a Beanie Baby.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I even. I had friends that were into that and that. My mom was never, like, a collector. She was never, like, obsessed with, like, labely things.

[B]

Yeah. Good.

[A]

Like, if she got a designer bag, somebody gave it to her as a gift for, like a closing of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, she just was.

[B]

Yeah. I was ever a collector. Like, where I thought it was going to be worth something someday.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, like, I was just throw it out.

[A]

Yeah. Whenever something would say, what's your hobby? And I was always like, isn't that like collecting coins? I never understood when someone's like, what do you like to do in your free time? I'm like, it was always watch TV and eat. What does anyone else do in their free time?

[B]

That's the same way I am. I stare at the wall.

[A]

I get my bird journal out.

[B]

I know. I wish I had something. I really do. I really do.

[A]

Chris. Oh, what a great year.

[B]

How do you feel? Feel your year was?

[A]

All in all, I think it was wonderful. You know, the biggest change for me was just leaving my house of 19 years. I enjoyed that whole process. And so that all was great. Yeah. That was probably the biggest thing that the year was. Was just really fun. I mean, shows were good, podcasts were good. I didn't go on any, like, major trip or anything because that was the year before, so.

[B]

But you're going to be Doing that now because you think time is. Time is.

[A]

I mean, I have to. I mean, I don't know when I'm going to do it. I have to plan. I mean, it's hard to do it with working full time, doing.

[B]

I see this thing, I keep getting these emails for Ritz Carlton, you know, the fancy hotels, they actually have a yacht.

[A]

That's. I've been talking about it too.

[B]

It looks so nice to me.

[A]

Okay. I've been manifesting and I've been telling everybody, listen, Chris and I are interested. I. That's the only kind of yacht thing I would want to do is 200 people under. And. And if you also, you know. Yeah, I just think then that's the way. Because everyone says that is the way to go. Like see the most things in Europe. Yeah, but I just want to be on the right.

[B]

Well, the Ritz Carlton one, I look it up, it looks pretty nice. You could do several different ones. And I think that's going to be my, my. And then I'm. I'm done.

[A]

With life.

[B]

Yeah, with life. Then I'm going to jump off at the end to the ocean and swim away.

[A]

Yes. Where are you going to be?

[B]

Portland. Portland. Helium. Helium in Portland. That's a great place there. I love it up there. That's January 14th. January 14th. January 15th. A brand new comedy club in Seattle. The Emerald City Comedy Club in Seattle. Brand new.

[A]

Oh, like wicked.

[B]

I know. City. Yeah. Yeah. I think they call Seattle the Emerald City. I'm not sure why, but. Oh, and New Year's Eve, I'm at La Jolla Comedy Store New Year's Eve in La Jolla.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

I know. Perfect place. And then Comedy Connection in Rhode Island. Coming back to Rhode island comedy action on the 22nd of January. And then Roar Comedy Club in Springfield, Massachusetts on the 23rd and 24th of January. Franzola.fun has everything. I have a podcast called Cover to Cover. Go listen to that.

[A]

And so you have a pretty full January, but not crazy. So that's good.

[B]

I think that I think I can. I can't do much crazy anymore.

[A]

I. I think it's time that you think, be a little more selective on your weekends.

[B]

I know, but it's hard. It's hard to say no. You know, sometimes you're like, I don't know. And it is nice to get out of the house. You know what I mean?

[A]

No, I totally get it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think those, those places sound like good choices.

[B]

Yeah, they're good choices. I feel like, I feel like I'M making wiser choices.

[A]

Finally. At this point in your life.

[B]

I know I'm not doing like, it.

[A]

Really took this long.

[B]

Oh, I told I. It's so my agent's guy. What about this place? I'm like, no, we're not doing that anymore. He can't understand why. Yeah. Why not? I'm like, because it's a city. I'm not. You know, everything about it's awful. Yeah.

[A]

You need to be in the nice places. Fragila Dot Fun.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

Check him out. He has a fabulous Patreon as well. And Patreon.

[B]

I have an Instagram. Come over to Instagram.

[A]

Oh, his stuff on Instagram, especially his stories and stuff are really fun. Funny. They. And they're. They're fashion forward.

[B]

I was doing I'm I in New York. I was doing outfit of the day. Ootd they tell me to write.

[A]

I. You do dress well. So I think that you're missing out on a whole thing. I think you should be like an. An older male influencer that talks about how you put outfits together. How do you know what a capsule, a wardrobe is? No, that's what Whip say, where you just, like, you just have all these items that are like, solid, that work together. You don't have to think about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you get rid of all everything else. So it's like if you have a hard time putting outfits together, these women or men will say, these are the items you need.

[B]

I agree with you.

[A]

This kind of jacket, this kind of blade.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

These essentials. And then everything works. And you'll always look like a classy person.

[B]

I totally agree with that. I. I also believe that New York City does bring out your fashion sense.

[A]

Oh, totally. Oh.

[B]

Because you're out walking the street. So, like in la, you're like, I don't care. I'm walking out, I'm getting a car and I go to set, you know, wherever I go. But in New York, like, oh, I gotta put this together. So it. It leaned in more to my OOTD outfit of the day. Is that what they call it? Yeah.

[A]

Stassi Schroeder created that saying.

[B]

She did?

[A]

Yeah. Isn't that amazing?

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah, she, like, came up with that and like. Yeah.

[B]

Is she back? What happened to her? She.

[A]

Yeah, no, she's doing good. She's got her own show coming out on Hulu, kind of docu series. She just hosted the Secret Lives of Mourn Wives Reunion.

[B]

I did an episode of Lights out with David Spade with her and she was lovely.

[A]

Yeah, she's funny. She's good.

[B]

Yeah, she was nice.

[A]

All right, you guys, thank you. Of course, for me, it's Heather McDowell dot net. Check out my Patreon. I'll be dropping extra episodes this weekend and throughout the holidays. Thank you. Bye.

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