Chris Franjola, D4vid Arrested and my RHOBH Cameo

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Episode: Chris Franjola, D4vid Arrested and my RHOBH Cameo

Date: April 21, 2026
Guests: Chris Franjola

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Heather McDonald welcomes comedian Chris Franjola for a vibrant, gossip-filled deep dive into celebrity culture, Bravo entertainment, music news, influencer drama, and true crime. Highlights include Heather's recent stint on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills," the shocking arrest of the pop star D4vid, Meghan Trainor's career moves, the ever-evolving world of social media influencers, nostalgic discussions about childhood icons, and the rumor mill surrounding Michael Jackson’s upcoming biopic. The episode is packed with satire, candid commentary, and plenty of memorable moments told in Heather’s classic, irreverent tone.

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Main Discussion Segments & Key Moments

1. Fashion & Stagecoach Plans (02:19 - 05:15)

• Heather and Chris compare their “grown-up” outfits – Heather prepping for Stagecoach Festival and the joys of cowboy hats.
• Heather: “You old. Like, stop it... but I also want, like, a cute outfit.” (03:43)
• Chris: “Sometimes the haters can help you.” (03:49)

2. Heather’s Cameo on RHOBH (05:56 - 10:09)

• Heather details her surprise appearance on the finale of “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” at a Kathy Hilton party.
• She wasn’t expecting to be featured (“I didn’t plan a viewing party over. Let’s just say that.” [06:51]).
• She responds to online rumors that she was a “paid guest” at the party, refuting lies spread by podcast “Two Cunts on a Zoom” and content creator “Melissa from Minnesota.”
  • Heather: “For someone to be attending. You cannot pay to attend a party that’s being filmed by Bravo, so that’s just a lie.” (07:32)
• Chris: “Welcome to the Bravo verse or whatever.” (10:07)

3. Social Media & Influencer Shade (09:08 - 11:13)

• Discussion of the snark and rivalry in the Bravo recap/content creator community.
• Heather: “Maybe because I’ve been in the business for 30 years.” (09:06)
• Freebies at “Kathy Husband party” – “Everyone got a free little bee necklace.” (09:23)

4. Expensive LA Trends (10:30 - 12:02)

• Complaints about pricey Erewhon smoothies, Boot Barn shopping experiences.
  • Heather: “The internal dialogue when people talk about food noise. I’m like, I have the money noise about the food.” (11:54)

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5. Parenting, Birthday Parties & Public Recognition (12:05 - 15:24)

• Chris and Heather bemoan the escalation of kids’ birthday parties, comparing “drop-off” parties to the past.
• Humorous exchange about being recognized by fans in front of “normies.”
  • Chris: “I have been waiting for this moment my entire life.” (14:06)
• The psychology of people knocking celebrities down a peg:
  • Heather: “It’s like really aggressive... how am I going to defend...I’m not lying. Just like, I didn’t lie here to C and A Zoom.” (15:03)

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6. True Crime: D4vid Arrested (19:22 - 21:42)

• News story on pop star D4vid’s arrest for the murder of 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
  • Heather: “He was under a secret grand jury investigation for months. His lawyers maintain his innocence stating there is no evidence linking him.” (19:22)
  • Chris speculates someone close to D4vid “turned” or provided key evidence.
  • Discussion on disturbing behavior and details: “...he told friends that she was a 19-year-old going to USC, so he already knew it was wrong.” (21:07)

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7. Kardashian/Coachella Pop Culture & Madonna at Coachella (21:43 - 26:31)

• The Kardashian “chef” resembling Kris Jenner, and the trend of employees morphing into the Kardashian look.
• Sabrina Carpenter brings out Madonna at Coachella:
  • Varied crowd reactions, generational divide concerning Madonna’s stardom.
  • Social critique: Everyone filming concerts rather than enjoying them.
    • Chris: "What, are you going to show it to other people? Like, people want to watch your grainy footage of nine-minute long Bruce Springsteen song?" (26:31)

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8. AI, YouTube & Influencer Fakes (27:09 - 29:52)

• Heather references an “old granny” Coachella influencer – all AI generated.
• Justin Bieber’s unique workaround for his music catalog rights, performing to YouTube clips.

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9. Behind-the-Scenes of Talk Show Sketch Comedy (29:52 - 34:34)

• Amusing stories from the days working on Chelsea Lately: making sketches with Miss Piggy, the realities of pitching wild bits to TV executives, and childhood TV fandoms.
  • Chris: "They wanted me to go in and you hear, like, pigs squealing. It didn’t happen, everybody. We didn’t do it. But it was pitched." (31:29)

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10. Coachella Scams & Imitators (34:37 - 36:04)

• Fake Justin Bieber cons, including EV rental fraud at Coachella, and the phenomenon of Bieber impersonators scoring free perks.

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11. Ice Spice’s McDonald’s Fight (36:05 - 37:58)

• Ice Spice attacked in a McDonald’s by a fan/heckler; Chris puzzled by people “dining in” at McDonald's.
  • Heather: "I’ve never been in a street fight." (36:30)
  • Chris: "I'm just weirded out by people who dine in at McDonald's." (37:17)

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12. Meghan Trainor & Celebrity Tour Drama (38:04 - 44:40)

• Meghan Trainor’s abrupt tour cancellation, home sale, speculation about her weight loss, possible divorce, and performer excuses.
  • Heather: “I just want to see one guy go, ‘I’m canceling my comedy tour. I just need to spend more time with my five-year-old daughter.’” (42:54)
• Economics of live music and 80s throwback “Lazy Susan” concert stages.

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13. Conspiracy Corner: Missing Scientists (49:36 - 52:45)

• Mysterious disappearances and deaths among prominent scientists in the fields of nuclear physics and aerospace, sparking theories about government and alien cover-ups.
  • Heather: “It’s one thing if it was like three people. It’s 11. And it’s all like top people.” (52:06)
  • Chris: “Do you think that we went and flew behind the moon and all that?... I always say yes until I’m proven otherwise.” (52:23)

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14. Trad Wife Culture & Influencer Parenting Laws (55:30 - 59:18)

• Anne Hathaway’s new trad wife movie; discussion of influencer moms having to uproot their lives due to new Tennessee law making it illegal to profit from featuring children on social media.
  • Heather: “They were living their whole life exploiting the kids... listed their homes really so they could move to a state where they can still feature the kids.” (58:11)

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15. Mahjong & Hallmark Diversity Debate (60:13 - 63:01)

• Hallmark’s new movie "All’s Fair in Love and Mahjong" criticized for lack of Asian actors despite the game’s origins.
  • Heather: “Are playing it because they like it. Like, yeah. What are we supposed to do? Like, you’re not allowed to play the game?” (63:01)
  • Chris: “You better be sure of that.” [on guessing someone’s ethnicity in casting] (62:00)

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16. Jennifer Aniston Reacts to Justin Theroux’s New Baby (63:40 - 67:11)

• Aniston ‘likes’ Theroux’s shirtless dad photo with new baby; speculation that celebs’ SM teams direct these public responses.
  • Heather: “If she wasn’t Jennifer Aniston and it was your mom, your 57-year-old mom dating a life coach who’s a hypnotist, you would be calling all your siblings…” (66:15)

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17. Michael Jackson Biopic Family Drama (67:13 - 74:44)

• Jafar Jackson playing Michael in the new film, Paris Jackson’s criticism of the project, and the Jackson family’s oversight ensuring the most favorable portrayal.
  • Heather: “Every time I’ve seen a movie about Michael Jackson, they are obsessed with the Pepsi commercial, the Pepsi fire because apparently that’s when he kind of got addicted to painkillers.” (69:59)
  • Panel rehashes the persistent debate over Jackson’s legacy and abuse allegations.
    • Heather: “So, why would any adult want to hang out with young kids that aren’t their own for sleepovers?” (71:27)
    • Chris: “If it was anybody else with the accusation... but the fact that he has hit songs. Is that why people don’t [believe]?” (72:58)

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18. Calabasas Confidential & Netflix’s Nepo Baby Reality TV (78:04 - 79:53)

• Sneak peek into a new Netflix reality show about Calabasas Nepo babies returning home; social status, privilege, and next-gen influencer content.

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19. Cher’s Secret Granddaughter (80:03 - 80:52)

• Cher discovers she has a 15-year-old granddaughter and the emotional logistics of newfound family ties.

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20. Wild News Oddities (80:52 - 84:28)

• Bride doused in black paint by sister-in-law in “revenge attack."
• Japan’s Princess Mako leaves royal life for suburbia; parallels with stories of leaving privilege for “normalcy.”

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “Sometimes the haters can help you.” – Chris Franjola (03:49)
• “For someone to be attending. You cannot pay to attend a party that’s being filmed by Bravo, so that’s just a lie.” – Heather (07:32)
• “He was under a secret grand jury investigation for months. His lawyers maintain his innocence stating there is no evidence linking him.” – Heather, on D4vid arrest (19:22)
• “What, are you going to show it to other people? Like, people want to watch your grainy footage of nine-minute long Bruce Springsteen song?” – Chris (26:31)
• “I’ve never been in a street fight.” – Heather (36:30)
• “I just want to see one guy go, ‘I’m canceling my comedy tour. I just need to spend more time with my five-year-old daughter.’” – Heather (42:54)
• “It’s one thing if it was like three people. It’s 11. And it’s all like top people.” – Heather, on missing scientists (52:06)
• “If she wasn’t Jennifer Aniston and it was your mom, your 57-year-old mom dating a life coach who’s a hypnotist, you would be calling all your siblings…” – Heather (66:15)
• “Every time I’ve seen a movie about Michael Jackson, they are obsessed with the Pepsi commercial, the Pepsi fire because apparently that’s when he kind of got addicted to painkillers.” – Heather (69:59)

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The tone throughout is candid, snarky, and peppered with pop culture references, blending scandalous gossip and self-deprecation. Heather and Chris keep conversations witty and relatable, sharing both insider Hollywood tales and sharp takes on the new landscape of influencer, celebrity, and true crime culture. The episode serves up an abundance of hot takes, laughs, and a few debates sure to spark further discussion among Juicy Scoopers.

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Recommended Listening Segments

• Heather’s RHOBH Cameo & Content Creator Drama: 05:56 – 10:09
• D4vid True Crime Discussion: 19:22 – 21:42
• Madonna at Coachella + Generational Divide: 23:17 – 26:31
• Meghan Trainor Speculation & Tour Economics: 41:33 – 44:40
• Michael Jackson Biopic & Family Controversy: 67:13 – 74:44

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Closing

Heather and Chris finish with plugs for upcoming live shows, banter about possible dinner spots in Hollywood, and tease more celebrity and Bravo analysis to come.

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Transcript

[Chris Frangela]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Chris Frangela]

It is an honor to share.

[Heather McDonald]

No, it's our honor.

[Chris Frangela]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Chris Frangela]

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[Heather McDonald]

Heather McDonald has got the juicest scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go. Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales for real life. Mr. Segment, serial data and Serial Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Hannah McDonald juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Oh my gosh, you guys are going to be so thrilled. So quickly back from last time. Blue eyes wearing green. Your eyes look a little green today. Chris Frangola look how cute you are wearing put up your shoe matching shoes. Adorable. And even have a green. I know you didn't think of this but you have a green case on your phone.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, I guess I do.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean you are just a fashion delight.

[Chris Frangela]

Chris I had these shoes specially made for me. Some guy on Etsy make shoes and I saw them and they Took about nine months for him to make them, but they eventually showed up.

[Heather McDonald]

And are they so comfortable?

[Chris Frangela]

I love them. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God.

[Chris Frangela]

I don't know if I should wear green shoes, but I love them anyway.

[Heather McDonald]

No, they're a great color.

[Chris Frangela]

Thank you. Happy to be back. I actually made a conscious effort to dress more like an adult, so I went and bought adult clothes a few weeks ago.

[Heather McDonald]

You were buying in the kids section prior?

[Chris Frangela]

No, I felt like I was, you know, I was wearing things that I. Probably a little too young, you know, because I'm getting up there now, and this is my attempt at adult clothing.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I'm glad you said that.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, really?

[Heather McDonald]

As I currently still am sitting in shorts. However, I'm dressed a little more adult. I have a long sleeved blouse on.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And I am going to do Stagecoach activities this weekend.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, Stagecoach.

[Heather McDonald]

Going to Stagecoach this weekend with my friends.

[Chris Frangela]

Country version of Coachella. Coachella.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And so I went to boot Barn.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

In Thousand Oaks yesterday.

[Chris Frangela]

They Food Barn.

[Heather McDonald]

Boot barred. And I. Because I was like, I just need some, like, country clothes. I don't even know where to begin. Like, and in figuring out the outfits, I kept saying, heather, like, remember, you know that you are not 24.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Listen to the haters. You old.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, stop it.

[Chris Frangela]

Sometimes the haters can help you.

[Heather McDonald]

Sometimes the haters. And I was like, you know, And I'm like, but I also want, like, a cute outfit. And I think I did pretty well. I bought a lot. And then I called my sorority sister, as you do. You're always sorority sisters. And I'm like, I have, like, two vests in different colors. Like, we're going to put our whole outfits together. So. Yeah, let me know if you guys can get us into anything.

[Chris Frangela]

Stage coach.

[Heather McDonald]

We're looking for some fun parties while we're staying at my house in La Quinta. And I am still figuring out what passes I have. I'm still, like, working on my thing

[Chris Frangela]

to go to go parties or.

[Heather McDonald]

I just want to. I just really just want to go, like, one day.

[Chris Frangela]

Are you into country music?

[Heather McDonald]

I do love the country music. Oh, and I do love the way my head looks in a cowboy hat. Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

First of all, you don't have to worry about your roots showing. You don't have to worry about your hair if your hair is a little screwed up and you don't want to redo it.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

You wear a hat all weekend long and you still look cute.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. How. But where can you. They can't wear it in Everyday life. The cowboy hat, I think it looks a little. It gets a little.

[Heather McDonald]

I know you can't. And I wish, I wish you could because I do love myself in a class. So I got a black cowboy hat. I have a cream one. I have a pink one. I have black boots. I have white boots. Yeah, I have sparkly boots, but I don't think I'm too sparkly. Okay, we'll see. Hook me up, email me.

[Chris Frangela]

It really does. The cowboy hat does hide a lot of. I mean, you know, you could see so many country western men who. Cowboy hat on just like, you know, good looking, Tim McGraw. And they take it off like, who's that guy?

[Heather McDonald]

It's shock a different person. And then it's like, I didn't even know that that was your head shape. Yeah, yeah, it's a, it's a great, it's a great invention, the cowboy hat. I would love the cowboy hat to be an everyday thing.

[Chris Frangela]

It is in some places. Yeah. Yeah. Which I sometimes find. Like, really? We're gonna wear the cowboy hat in the middle of the afternoon and just like in like, you know, just like cvs. But some people do, you know, I'm

[Heather McDonald]

just gonna bring it back, just gonna

[Chris Frangela]

wear it all the time, different style.

[Heather McDonald]

I had something happen to me. So I was on TV again. My return, My return to television. And you know, I went, so this is what happened. I was just on a very small part of the finale. Real Houses of Beverly Hills. They show this party that Kathy Hilton is showing. And they showed me and they actually wrote my name. Oh, I was shocked.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, you didn't know.

[Heather McDonald]

I didn't know that they would feature me. However, a few weeks ago they emailed me and I know the Bravo people from them bringing their talent here and whatnot. And they just said, hi, you were at the Kathy Husband party. We never had you sign a release. Will you sign one? So I figured maybe I'd be in the background. But I was talking to Denise Richards for a while. I was talking to Rachel Zo. I'm like, maybe I'm in a conversation or saying whatever. I wasn't like, I didn't plan a viewing party over. Okay, let's just say that.

[Chris Frangela]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. I was imagine I invite everybody over. I get like Maggiano's. And anyway, I. Then someone sends it to me from the east coast and I'm like, oh, okay, that's. Oh, I'm like, I'm kind of shocked they gave me my name because I'm like, you know, I don't feel like I get a lot of respect in the Bravoverse. So I was like, okay, whatever. Fine. But then I was made aware over the weekend of a couple bitches.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, no.

[Heather McDonald]

That were being, you know, content creators, whatever you want to call it. And this one girl put on her stories. Oh, a paid appearance. Like I paid to go. Oh, you paid Like I paid to go. First of all, that doesn't exist.

[Chris Frangela]

Not that I don't.

[Heather McDonald]

For someone to be attending. You cannot pay to attend a party that's being filmed by Bravo, so that's just a lie. And second of all, I was just kind of like, oh, my God, do I even have to defend myself? First of all, I didn't even know it was being filmed. This is the third time I've gone to Kathy Hilton's house where it wasn't being filmed. I came after another event, then walked in, and that's why I never signed a release, because I didn't even know it was being done. Saw the girls that were filming and did enjoy being there because it was the finale. I did hear them screaming in a corner at each other, and that was kind of fun to watch from afar and stuff. I got my free necklace. It was a Nikki Hilton. I'm wearing it. It's a little bee. It was Nikki Hilton's jewelry line, which was fun and it was fine. So anyway, this girl that wrote this, she's called Melissa from Minnesota. Her former handle was Heather McDowell obsessed.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

But now apparently she's Melissa from Minnesota, and she, bless her heart, she tries real hard, but the snark just is there. And then Two Cunts on a Zoom, they have a podcast.

[Chris Frangela]

Is that really the name?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. Two Cunts on a Zoom. They also said on their show in which they have a producer write down scenes and then they just go through it to un. Like, somewhat recap the show that one used to be on. And then they go, oh, there was a jump scare. How did she get there? Me? How did she get there? Why is she at these parties? I don't know. Maybe because I've been in the business for 30 years.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So 2C on a Zoom.

[Chris Frangela]

2C on a can go off. Yeah. Well, I. You said you had a free matcha. I saw your clip.

[Heather McDonald]

I did. I just got a free matcha. Like, I walked in. I'm making fun of it, too.

[Chris Frangela]

Like, did they give you a free matcha or.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, you walk in and they have food and drinks. You know, for the party. Everyone got a free little bee necklace.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, that's and you got paid, of course, for the appearance or you paid.

[Heather McDonald]

No, I didn't get paid. And I didn't.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I didn't pay. Yeah, I went. Got my necklace, got a couple bites. Got to talk to a bunch of people I knew, like Denise and Rachel, Zoe and Bose and, you know, I know all these people, like, because I've been doing this for a long time. Like, sorry that, you know, like, you're like bitter Betty, but, like, I really don't care. Like, I was like, it's on my way back from Beverly Hills to my normal life, which is. I never even want to leave there, so who cares? Real bitchy. But, you know, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.

[Chris Frangela]

Welcome to the Bravo verse or whatever.

[Heather McDonald]

Back. Back at it. Having fun. Okay.

[Chris Frangela]

I just read an article today that Matcha, the scientists are saying matcha can stop you from sneezing.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. So if you have any sneezing issues, drink Matcha. And apparently there's a connection between matcha and stopping sneezing.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I'm glad to hear that it's not something bad.

[Chris Frangela]

No, it says it's okay. It's good.

[Heather McDonald]

I went to Erewhon the other day.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I couldn't handle it.

[Chris Frangela]

Why not?

[Heather McDonald]

The prices.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I just couldn't. The internal monologue. I have Boot Barn.

[Chris Frangela]

How's Boot Barn's prices? Great. Pretty good.

[Heather McDonald]

Fucking great. And so, like, I. I went there and I went to go. I go, you know what? I'm just gonna get a smoothie. Yeah, The Hailey Bieber smoothie was not there.

[Chris Frangela]

No, they don't. You could get it, but it's not on the menu.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. So I'm going on the iPad thing. And I am just like, I cannot. I cannot spend the $20.

[Chris Frangela]

Don't you think they're in on the. Like, that's part of the. They're in on the joke now. It's like everyone makes the joke that it's so expensive now. They're like, well, we have to be expensive. That's why people are coming in. I don't know.

[Heather McDonald]

See, like these people that just these kids and these teenagers and the nannies and the four year olds just eating like. Like there's no tomorrow. I just. I can't. I was just like. So then I go, okay, I'll. Oh, here's one for $12. I'll get that. That was like. It was like lemon and mango and some mint. I'm like, I'll do that. It was this big. It was so small. That's why? It was $12 and I was like this little sad thing. And so then I go over for lunch and I'm like, not doing it. Yeah, no, I'm just gonna go eat at home. I could not, could not handle it. I mean, the internal dialogue when people talk about food noise. I'm like, I have the money noise about the food.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm like, heather, you deserve that. You know, I went out yesterday. You deserve to add some salmon to that salad. I'm like, I don't know that you do.

[Chris Frangela]

Wow.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know that you do, Heather.

[Chris Frangela]

Good for you. That's a good way to do it.

[Heather McDonald]

No, it's not.

[Chris Frangela]

No, it's not.

[Heather McDonald]

What am I saving it for?

[Chris Frangela]

You never know. You never know. Look at. We were just gonna talk about story coming up. Meghan Trainor. You. Yeah. So it's. You gotta save when you. I went out yesterday. We went out to first. I never go anywhere, you know, Century City Mall for a birthday party.

[Heather McDonald]

I do love that mall.

[Chris Frangela]

I know. It's so nice. It's beautiful.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. And it was a drop off birthday party, which is the greatest thing. Whoever invented these is the greatest thing ever.

[Heather McDonald]

You mean you don't have to stay with your kid?

[Chris Frangela]

No, you drop them off.

[Heather McDonald]

There's nannies, there's camp.

[Chris Frangela]

This place called Camp. They do like kids birthday parties and stuff. And there was a themed. Some, you know, I don't know, whatever theme it was. And they just go into the back.

[Heather McDonald]

But that's not.

[Chris Frangela]

No parents allowed.

[Heather McDonald]

But that's what it always was.

[Chris Frangela]

I know.

[Heather McDonald]

And then all of a sudden it was like, no, all the parents stay. So now you need a bar. And I'm like, I used to just have a carnival. What was the cake? Caravel. Caravel cake.

[Chris Frangela]

Carvel.

[Heather McDonald]

Carvel cake. Yeah, Carvel cake and swimming.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And everybody was dropped off for multiple days.

[Chris Frangela]

No, I know.

[Heather McDonald]

They just spend the night.

[Chris Frangela]

It's the greatest. We didn't even know what to do with ourselves. They were like, come back sick. So we're like, well, what do we do now?

[Heather McDonald]

I hope you went to like.

[Chris Frangela]

We did. We walked around and you go to

[Heather McDonald]

like Javier's and have a kid.

[Chris Frangela]

We went to Javier's.

[Heather McDonald]

You did.

[Chris Frangela]

Thumbs down kind of, wasn't it?

[Heather McDonald]

It's overdone now.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. We just sat at the bar and you know what you get? I got like some sort of margarita.

[Heather McDonald]

No food though.

[Chris Frangela]

No ceviche. It wasn't great. No. Whatever. I mean.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, but the vibe is nice.

[Chris Frangela]

It was Fine. Yeah. But the greatest thing ever.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

Can I just say this? I don't know if she's a Juicy Scoop fan, but I want to thank this woman.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay. So I'm standing there with all the school parents waiting for our daughter to be released from the party, and we're all just chatting about stuff in traffic and just small talk. And this woman breaks through the whole crowd of people and goes, I just want to say, Chris Frangela, I'm a huge fan and shakes my hand in front of her and they all witnessed it. I have been waiting for this moment my entire life.

[Heather McDonald]

I asked you if the people at the school know that there is a star among them.

[Chris Frangela]

They do know. Now they know, but they don't know know, like, enough. I don't think they needed to see it.

[Heather McDonald]

They need to see it firsthand.

[Chris Frangela]

I mean, it was as about as good a timing as that's ever happened to me.

[Heather McDonald]

The times that that's happened to me, it's usually followed up by whoever that wonderful Juicy Scooper is, then has a friend and goes, I don't know who you are.

[Chris Frangela]

My fate.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I. Why is she freaking out? I have no idea who you are.

[Chris Frangela]

I love that after every show there's got to be one.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, you don't need to get aggressive with me. I'm sorry that your friend knows who I am and you don't know who I am.

[Chris Frangela]

What is the psychology behind the person has to knock you down a peg?

[Heather McDonald]

I think. I think it's a woman thing. I think.

[Chris Frangela]

No, I get it from a L.

[Heather McDonald]

And she's a woman and that other person's a woman and they're just like, I don't understand why my best friend is fucking excited to meet you. Yeah, I'm the best friend.

[Chris Frangela]

It's such a strange thing to say to somebody.

[Heather McDonald]

It's like really aggressive. And I'm like, well, I don't know what to say to you. Like, how am I going to defend. I'm not lying. Just like, I didn't lie here to C and A Zoom. I. I did not lie about was invited. And I went. I showed up because it was a convenient thing to go. And I like a cute pop up at a gorgeous house. And I like Kathy and Nikki.

[Chris Frangela]

You're out living your life. You're living your life, your kids.

[Heather McDonald]

You thirsty? What are you talking about?

[Chris Frangela]

You're free to go out and do what you want to do.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, if you got invited, you turn it down. Like, whatever.

[Chris Frangela]

I mean, in the 2C defense they call themselves right up front 2C. They're just living up to it.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

The 14 year old girl who was found in the trunk of a car. He owns a Tesla that he owns now according to his people. Let me just give you the details of it. He was arrested April 16th in the connection of 14. I cannot believe how young she was. Celeste Rivas Hernandez. The girl's body was discovered seven months ago. That's how long this has been going on for. It was he was under a secret grand jury investigation for months. His lawyers maintain his innocence stating there is no evidence linking him to the death. So that's what I thought why that wasn't happening is that they had to get everything they could together to convince a grand jury that he should be arrested. And he has been arrested and he is currently being held without bail.

[Chris Frangela]

So.

[Heather McDonald]

So he has to stay there.

[Chris Frangela]

They must have something strong.

[Heather McDonald]

I think what they have is which is what I've always said is somebody in his world has turned or given some.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Indisputable like evidence that he knew about it, is involved and did it.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And someone was help covering it up.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. So that is interesting that the only picture they have of him is him wearing like kind of a sensible blouse which is like a strange picture from a murder suspect.

[Heather McDonald]

Well I've seen the other ones where he actually wore a. There's the one from the music video where he's dragging a body to a. A car train.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh really?

[Heather McDonald]

And one where he has a white T shirt with bloody handprints on it. So that which he sold that shirt too. So that was all before the song came out.

[Chris Frangela]

He should just be arrested for the dating a 14 year old girl alone. Right. Weren't they, like, dating or something?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I mean, she was around all the time, but the friends thought. He told friends that she was a 19 year old going to USC, so he already knew it was wrong. She wasn't lying and saying that, like. And then I think her parents just might have, you know, been okay. She's like a runaway or doing her own thing. It wasn't like a cps. She's been kidnapped, missing. Yeah, they kind of knew she was like, hanging out with this older guy. And I guess, I don't know, some parents, maybe they thought it was cool that he was a big singer. I mean. Yeah, it's really sad.

[Chris Frangela]

Sad story.

[Heather McDonald]

This is. This showed up on People. Okay. Kardashian family chef reveals the number one food influencers are eating at Coachella. I hope you're watching this on YouTube because the photo of this chef and the comments, everybody is like, it's if. If Kris Jenner became a tattooed lesbian. Literally looks exactly like Kris Jenner.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And so everybody in the comments were like, wow, like, what happens when you start working for the Kardashians? Because there was this other guy that was Kylie Jenner's makeup artist that over the years started to fill his ass.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, really?

[Heather McDonald]

Nails started to do the makeup, got the lips, and there's something where you just start morphing into them. Your voice changes. Like that happened to Bruce.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, same thing, you know, he started. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, if it's evident can happen to Bruce, then you could imagine it could happen to the chef, the makeup artist. Everybody, you're around it and you're just like, this is what I want.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

I can't stop it.

[Chris Frangela]

Nobody's seen Rob in a long time. It's probably Rachel now, you know, who knows?

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. But it was pretty amazing. Sabrina Carpenter, second week of Coachella, brought out Madonna. And now I've seen different points of view of it, like videos. Yes. And one was, you know, a young gay guy when they start to, like, do the Vogue snaps.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And thank God that young gay guy knows what's about to happen, because he was like, no. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Then Madonna comes out. But I saw a lot of other video where people were kind of like, okay, like, not as excited.

[Chris Frangela]

That's what I've been reading. I've been reading a bunch of takes on it where people were upset, people our age who are very upset that the crowd is not at all about it. And most of the people I heard were Upset that everyone's holding up their phones. Everybody. And nobody's watching the concert. I mean, they're watching it, but through their phones. So they're not clapping along or dancing along. They did Like a Prayer, I think, together. That was a song. So it's a good.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, I mean, I can see.

[Chris Frangela]

But also, Madonna, as great as we all think she is, she is a generation removed from, like, two generations. Yeah, exactly. Even more than.

[Heather McDonald]

Because I was thinking about it. Like A Prayer was a hit song when I was in college.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

So I'm like, that was a really long time ago.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, and because I have Gen Z people in my life that came out of me and I've raised. And I was just with two of them last night. My daughter and her boyfriend. And, you know, I'm like, have you heard of these people? You know? No, have. And then. Oh, but have you heard of Cameron Diaz? Yes, I've heard of her.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

It's like, wow, okay. You know, like, I forget. But then I remember how my mom would always be like, oh, Gina Rollins. I was like, who's she rolling? Like, just, like, these kind of things where I'm like, okay, I get. If you didn't live it, why would you know it? You know, And. But, I mean, she wore the same corset that she wore 20 years ago.

[Chris Frangela]

Madonna did.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. So that was a flex on her part that you could still fit in it. Some people were like, oh, my God. You know, the guy had to hold her hand down the steps. I'm like, as he should. And then I'm like, also, she. Yes, her face is slicked back and everything, and she looks amazing, but she is, like, 64, so, like, you, she's not gonna be. Have the same walk as Sabrina Carpenter. Like, no matter how good you look at a certain point, balance becomes an issue. Changes. And, like, the way you talk. Walk changes. But. But I thought it was fun. I feel like, like A Prayer is a. Is a good song that you'd think that they would know.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I think that they were excited. But, you know, I guess people video film it all the time because I'm like, this is all the more reason not to film it because it's everywhere. But I think it's because so many of them are influencers or want to get the views, and they're like, if I'm the one that puts it up first, yeah, then that might be the one that picks up and gets 100,000 views.

[Chris Frangela]

As a guy who goes to quite a Few concerts, I don't. I take my phone out like once and take a picture and then that's the end of it. I was just a Bruce Springsteen. I'm talking old men, old people. The whole crowd's 75.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

Every single person has got their phone out the whole time. Even there, even there. 75 year old men. The whole time filming the concert. I was like, but are you really

[Heather McDonald]

gonna go back and watch it? No.

[Chris Frangela]

That's what I mean.

[Heather McDonald]

Why can't you go watch someone else's footage and enjoy your while you're there?

[Chris Frangela]

And what do you show? Going to show it to other people? Like people want to watch your grainy footage of nine minute long Bruce Springsteen song. Like, nobody wants to see the same

[Heather McDonald]

feeling of like, don't film the fireworks.

[Chris Frangela]

No. Or the moon. Take a picture. Like a full moon. It never works.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, it never works. It's always like, like no matter what.

[Chris Frangela]

I know.

[Heather McDonald]

Why can't you take it?

[Chris Frangela]

I get burned every time.

[Heather McDonald]

You know why? Because the moon doesn't exist. They've been lying to us. The moon is the sun. Remember that? The sun and the moon are the same thing.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, same thing. Yeah, I do remember that.

[Heather McDonald]

So anyway, I thought it. I would have been very excited.

[Chris Frangela]

You didn't go to Coachella at all, right?

[Heather McDonald]

I did not go to Coachella. And then there is this old granny that's. That has been going to Coachella, taking all these photos. It is all AI. It's not. She's not a real influencer, this old granny. So it's an old granny that kind of has an old face but has like a killer body. And then someone like.

[Chris Frangela]

You're not talking about Madonna right now? No.

[Heather McDonald]

And so this. So someone said it to me and it's. She's in a Coachella outfit and she's walking and people are like, wow, look at her posture. I'm like, it's not real. Again, it's an 80. Even if you looked good at 80, you still wouldn't be walking like a 24 year old girl. So they did this whole AI thing and then somebody wrote like the different, the different generations, how they react to something that's AI Gen Z is like, it's AI, dummy. Millennials are like, I'm pretty sure it's AI, but I'm still gonna like it because I think it's cool. And then Gen X is like, this is amazing. I've never seen anything so incredible. Good for her. I need to get her skincare routine.

[Chris Frangela]

Just fooled by everything.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah,

[Heather McDonald]

Justin Bieber, the whole thing with the YouTube, you know, there's been different things I've seen and I'm not really sure of what the truth is, but he's saying all new songs at the top, then he's saying with his laptop to his old material when he was young. And people think there is a big correlation to him selling his. His whole catalog for 200 million. And this was sort of a loophole around it that either he didn't have to pay or they wouldn't make money off of him performing. I'm exactly sure we've looked into it and I don't really know, but he

[Chris Frangela]

showed the YouTube clips by doing the YouTube clips.

[Heather McDonald]

He still owns the YouTube. So he's singing along with the YouTube versus if he just didn't do it with the laptop. This is a theory, okay? And saying just normal dancing around before, like he did before he sold the catalog for 200 million.

[Chris Frangela]

So I heard he was good. I heard. I had.

[Heather McDonald]

I loved it.

[Chris Frangela]

I had friends who were there and they said he sounded great.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, he's just so likable and entertaining. And this weekend he. Wait, I wanted to go back. He brought up Billie Eilish, who's literally been his super fan. Like, it shows her when she's like 12 in a video being like, I want to have a boyfriend, but I don't see how I could have a boyfriend unless it's, you know, Justin Bieber. And what I didn't realize is that Finneas, her brother, Billie, Alish's brother, he wrote Lonely. Yeah, I thought Justin Bieber wrote Lonely.

[Chris Frangela]

Well, Finneas co writes with everybody.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. So I thought. So what was amazing is they said that he couldn't believe how well the lyrics made sense in Justin's life. And I always thought Justin wrote that. And I thought it was about the time that he came on Chelsea Lately and he was feeling sick and they put beats. They had a doctor come shoot him up with a B12 shot in his butt at 12 so that he could do our stupid show. Because it was like I was sick and nobody cared. And I'm like, how the. I can't believe he remembers that horrible time, but I don't.

[Chris Frangela]

I was sitting next to him dressed as him. I used to play him. And while he got the B12 shot, I was sitting next to him dressed exactly like him. Which is. I mean, if it all ends tomorrow, I have some pretty good stories to tell.

[Heather McDonald]

And then I got with Sarah and Jen and we were old horny people trying to seduce him in another sketch in skimpy outfits.

[Chris Frangela]

I don't know why. Every time we had nothing else to write, we would just go to. Let's just try and fuck them. You know, I remember. I think you were with me in the sketch where they made me try to fuck Miss Piggy.

[Heather McDonald]

They did. They wanted you to. And then I think they said no to that.

[Chris Frangela]

No. Yes. The people from Sesame street or whatever, the Muppets, they were like, no, we can't do that. And we were like, why not? They're like, yeah, because we can't sexualize her.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, but see, you guys don't realize Heather's the thirsty fame whore, desperate loser.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Chris is an old, desperate, horny guy. So he would fuck a Muppet, right?

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. So I, like, knocked on her. We had, like, a sketch where we'd be knocking on her dressing room door with flowers. And then they wanted me to go in and you hear, like, figs squealing. It didn't happen, everybody. We didn't do it. But it was pitched. We had to pitch it to the nerdy puppeteers.

[Heather McDonald]

And then they were.

[Chris Frangela]

Jim Henson also.

[Heather McDonald]

They did this thing where they're like, we need the audience to, like, either leave the set or we have to set her up. Because they couldn't.

[Chris Frangela]

You couldn't see them dead.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, you couldn't see them. Their legs. So that. Oh, no, I know what it was. They had to put, like, a black sheet around it.

[Chris Frangela]

Around it, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So then when the time came for the interview, the black sheet, and she was seated there, you know, and then we.

[Chris Frangela]

And then we had to manipulate the chairs. Remember? We had to cut a hole in the chair so the guy could go underneath the chair.

[Heather McDonald]

Upper vagina.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. That was so wild. And it was Kermit, too. They were both there. We had two of them.

[Heather McDonald]

And that's weird that they were against you because Kermit was. I thought Kermit and Miss Piggy were a couple.

[Chris Frangela]

No. Well, they were a couple, I believe, but never married. And also, if you remember, Miss Piggy was, like, a very highly sexualized. Remember, she would always want to have sex with Kermit.

[Heather McDonald]

It.

[Chris Frangela]

It was like. And he was always the one who's like, absolutely not. I'm nobody's.

[Heather McDonald]

But Bird and Ernie, they, you know, who knows?

[Chris Frangela]

But didn't they come out recently and say, yeah, they were.

[Heather McDonald]

I think they did finally say. I think that they were, like, a couple.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Or they're just roommates that, you know.

[Chris Frangela]

Did you used to watch Sesame Street.

[Heather McDonald]

I. I mean, I loved. I loved Porky Pig's Wife, but that's. And I like. And that's a cartoon. And I like. And I liked Miss Piggy.

[Chris Frangela]

Petunia Pig.

[Heather McDonald]

And I liked Miss Piggy's look.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Because I liked a lot of hair. I liked.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, I hear.

[Heather McDonald]

And so, like, she was by far, like, my favorite. I. I didn't like the old people that went to the opera.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, yeah, right. The old man.

[Heather McDonald]

And I didn't like the one that looked like Donatelli's Versace sister.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't like that one. Remember that one that has a face like that?

[Chris Frangela]

The lips. Oh, yes, yes.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't like that one.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

I only liked Piggy.

[Chris Frangela]

What about Big Bird? Wasn't that a one, too?

[Heather McDonald]

That was Sesame Street.

[Chris Frangela]

That's what I'm saying. Sesame Street.

[Heather McDonald]

This wasn't Sesame Street.

[Chris Frangela]

Yes, Miss Piggy was Sesame Street.

[Heather McDonald]

No. No.

[Chris Frangela]

Isn't she a Muppet?

[Heather McDonald]

No, Henson. That guy that came.

[Chris Frangela]

Are they different than Sesame Street?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, there was. There's the guy by the last name of Henson.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. Jim Henson.

[Heather McDonald]

Jim Henson created all the Muppets. I. I just know people are in their car, knowing it all right now, the facts.

[Chris Frangela]

I know, because they're a Muppet.

[Heather McDonald]

They're losing their mind. Prepare.

[Chris Frangela]

Well, you know what?

[Heather McDonald]

We didn't. Prepare, prepare.

[Chris Frangela]

You don't know the difference.

[Heather McDonald]

We were not. When we sat down today. I did not think we'd get into. When Chris was forced to try to have sex with Miss Piggy in a comedic way with Miss Piggy. And the powers that be on Miss Piggy's team said no.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, we are not going to subject her.

[Chris Frangela]

The things we had to pitch to people. I mean, seeing the shocked look on some of their faces sometimes when we would go pitch them, they're like, oh, no, I won't do that. I'm like, why not?

[Heather McDonald]

Why not? We are horrible every day.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, then. Oh, this was interesting. This guy. There's a fake Justin Bieber rep who pulled off a bold 200,000 Coachella versus EV rental heist. So this guy. This was, like, very weird. He. He used the singer's name to orchestrate the theft of four Moki electric vehicles. Those are the kind of cute, like.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. Little cars.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. That. This follows a trend of Bieber imposters, You being one of them.

[Chris Frangela]

I was one, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Notably, a French impersonator named Dylan Disclos recently duped a Las Vegas nightclub into giving him ten grand bar tab and stage time before being caught.

[Chris Frangela]

I remember that one. And he.

[Heather McDonald]

So when he goes and acts like Kim, and then they're like.

[Chris Frangela]

Went on stage and people were buying it. They were like, you see the video of It's Wild that's going crazy in the audience. He doesn't even look that much like, baby. People are like, how are they fooled by this? But.

[Heather McDonald]

But you could sing like him or something.

[Chris Frangela]

He said, I'm Justin Bieber. He got a VIP table. They give him 10 grand, and he left, did a couple songs and walked out.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, what about. Did you see Ice Spice, the singer? This is so weird. So it's surveillance videos. She's just at a McDonald's with her friend. She's wearing sweats. And this girl who must have recognized her, who is a fan hater, comes up. And they're sitting in the booth, and she's kind of trapped.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And the girl's, like, leaning over her, being, like, talking to her with her fingers. And Ice Spice is like, what are. I don't know. You, like, what are you doing? And then she leans over and she goes and hits Ice Spice. And then Ice Spice just goes at her. And it's just amazing to me because I'm like. I know this might be a shock. I've never been in a street fight.

[Chris Frangela]

No, I couldn't. I couldn't see that. I couldn't see you in a street fight.

[Heather McDonald]

I've never been in a street fight. So I think if someone just went and did something like that, I would just crowd. I wouldn't know. I don't know if I could. If I. If my instinct would even be to, like, fight back, I think I'd be so incredibly shocked.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, the only time I was slapped was when Chewie hit me. And I was shocked. But not in real life.

[Chris Frangela]

It was part of a bit. Let's not.

[Heather McDonald]

It was a real ass slap.

[Chris Frangela]

I know, but.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, but. And I didn't know it was coming. Yeah, no, I didn't know it was coming. Yeah, but that's, like, the only time. And I'm just kind of like, oh, my God. And I. I was just like. I certainly didn't think to slap him back. That would have been better, but.

[Chris Frangela]

Wow.

[Heather McDonald]

Did you see this?

[Chris Frangela]

I did see it. It was shocking.

[Heather McDonald]

And then when they went outside.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

She kept fighting, running over.

[Chris Frangela]

Ice Spice runs over and she uses the tables. It's like she runs over the four table.

[Heather McDonald]

It was amazing.

[Chris Frangela]

I'm just weirded out by people who dine in at McDonald's. That was my takeaway from it. I'm like, why aren't they dining in? Like, you take McDonald's to go and you eat in your car like everyone else. Sad and lonely in your car.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I agree. I think that you can eat in at certain in and outs, and that's kind of cute.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Or what's the other one that has the burgers? I feel like people go that have the. Also they give you free peanuts. Five guys.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, five guys.

[Heather McDonald]

I feel like that one you could go eat in.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, there's a couple. Yeah. But dining in. In certain establishments is weird to me.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

It's even weird to me. They call it a dining room. Like, the dining room is open. I'm like, dining room? Where's that?

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, I don't even know how the story ended, but I hope she's okay.

[Chris Frangela]

It was a fight and she joked about it the next day. She talked about it and said she had a pretty good take on it.

[Heather McDonald]

Meghan Trainor, by the way, this wig is really awful. The wigs are awful.

[Chris Frangela]

I'm glad you brought that up. I want to talk about this. I believe I just watched this movie. I don't know if anyone's seen it. It's called Song Sung Blue.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, I've not seen it.

[Chris Frangela]

I know you hated my last movie recommendation. I'm gonna give you this recommendation now, and I want you to immediately text me the moment O while you're watching it to let me know what you think. First of all, I was on a plane, so there's that.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Chris Frangela]

It's the cheesiest movie I think I've ever seen in my life. I want to know your take on it.

[Heather McDonald]

She was nominated for an Oscar for it.

[Chris Frangela]

She was nominated for an Oscar for it. I don't know how or why Hugh Jackman's in it as well. They play a couple. It's a true story. They play, like, a Neil diamond cover band. People Cover band People. Yeah. And apparently, I guess they got big in Milwaukee or something, but they make it seem like people are going berserk for a Neil Damon cover. And then it just gets so dark and takes so many weird turns. At one point, Kate Hudson loses her leg and they have a prosthetic on her, but it's the worst prosthetic I've ever. It looks like a loaf of bread because they show it a couple times.

[Heather McDonald]

The prosthetic.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, but she's, like, lying in bed. Anyway, my point is this.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, how did she lose her leg?

[Chris Frangela]

She Got hit by a car. And she got hit by a car twice in the movie. And I'm like. I look it up. I'm like, is this real?

[Heather McDonald]

And she was hit by Gar twice.

[Chris Frangela]

I don't know. I couldn't read that far into it. I was so infuriated by the whole thing.

[Heather McDonald]

So you didn't think it was good?

[Chris Frangela]

No, it's so cheesy. I'm curious to see what people think. I know some people wrote me, some

[Heather McDonald]

I know some people really love. I mean, I am. Okay, I'm gonna watch it now. But is there an awful wig in it?

[Chris Frangela]

That's what I'm saying.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Chris Frangela]

Wigs in movies have gotten so.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know when. I don't know when that became a thing so bad. I think someone started it. Nicole Kidman and everyone else was like, wait a minute. Yeah, if we can just do a wig, I can protect my own hair. And we can all save an hour and a half. And then the makeup hair person is like, well, I can save a lot of time, too. And then it matches, because that's always a thing. Like when I did White chicks, like, I had this updo, and then we had to do it another day, and, like, they really had to, like, take photos of everything so that it all matched. So it's like, if it's just a wig, you have no problem matching it.

[Chris Frangela]

But whoever was making wigs at one time in Hollywood was fantastic, I think. And now they must have died or quit, because every wig I see once I see a wig movie, like Hugh Jackman trying, you know, in a wig. I'm out, I'm out. I'm out on any bad.

[Heather McDonald]

But were their characters wearing wigs because they were being impersonators?

[Chris Frangela]

No, but of course, Kate Hudson, it's like an 80s movie. So she's got a bad 80s wig on. And it's so. It's all.

[Heather McDonald]

By the way, I just saw a clip of an old movie like on TikTok called Le Divorce or something, in which Kate Hudson plays a. It looks pretty juicy, by the way. It's a long time ago where she plays, like, a mistress of this guy, and she's wearing a wig in that, too. And it's like the bang wig. And I just feel like whenever it's a bang wig also, because this is too hard to. Very few people could actually make their bangs, like, lay like that. It almost has to be a wig. I think she is a fan of wigs.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay. Yeah, that's.

[Heather McDonald]

And I think that's kind of her thing. Like when she does movies, she's just like, get me a wig so we don't have to waste our time on this.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, there's been some bad ones lately in movies. That's all I'm saying. It's really.

[Heather McDonald]

So this is Meghan Trainor. And it's just. It looks like a Halloween costume.

[Chris Frangela]

No, that. I thought it was when it first popped up.

[Heather McDonald]

And the wig is so bad. And you know, she's. The biggest thing is that she was. I ain't no size 2. And now she is a size 2. So people feel that that's what's going on with her life. Is that her. They, they're so mad that she got thin. They had to like make sure that something wasn't going.

[Chris Frangela]

And she canceled her tour. She had a big tour.

[Heather McDonald]

World canceled her tour and then immediately sold her House for $6.8 million in Encino. Now originally it was priced at 12 million, which is probably too high, but that's quite a slash. I don't know if it was up for a year. And it went from 12 to 10 to 8 and then 5 finally. But to do it right after we cancel, right before we cancel the tour. She just had a baby, right? So she's like, I want to spend time that, you know, JLO did the same thing. I want to spend time with my two 18 year olds.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. Ticket sales are sure a week.

[Heather McDonald]

And I think, and I think it's one of those things where, yeah, this happens, you know, where you're like, I committed to this, but the sales aren't good. I want out. Like, I don't want to do it. How do we get out of this? And it's perfect if you're a mother, right? I just want, I want to see one guy go, I'm canceling my comedy tour. I just need to spend more time with my five year old daughter.

[Chris Frangela]

You're about to see it. I might do it in a couple of weeks. You think I want to go to these places I go? Absolutely not. I'll tell you people, I don't cancel. I was in Buffalo last week in front of, you know, 42 people. It doesn't. I'm there there.

[Heather McDonald]

I know exactly. But I, I don't know. What do you say? Just, I mean, it's probably, I think it's always just like a combo of few things. Could she still do the tour? Yes. Could they push it and try to sell? Yes. But she probably wasn't feeling it. The other theory, which Is not. It's just alleged. Is. Is she getting ready to get divorced? Which I hope is not the case.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then by selling the house and then not going on tour, she could do a settlement with him and then. And then in like two years, go on tour. And I don't think he would have access to that money from the tour. I know another person who filed for divorce before big things happened for them too.

[Chris Frangela]

Really.

[Heather McDonald]

And got this. And got all nice and settled with the. With the partner who didn't make as much money and then was like. And then that person's like, great. And then, you know, two years later is like, oh, yeah, I should have hung in there, you know, or I should have, you know, not accepted the settlement or whatever. But I don't know. I don't know that she's that big of a star.

[Chris Frangela]

No, I think.

[Heather McDonald]

And if she can't sing I ain't no size 2. That's their main song.

[Chris Frangela]

What about all about that bass? Is that same?

[Heather McDonald]

That's. Yeah, that's about not being a size two.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

So she had to get that one off her set list because she is a size 2.

[Chris Frangela]

I mean, honestly, nothing against Megan Train. I'm sure she's fine. But like, tickets price is now like 250 bucks. And like, like, are her fans that passionate that they're gonna. And it was big venues. I think it was like arenas and like, Dennis, she's not selling out arenas. Just. No way.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I think that's why Coachella and Stagecoach do. Do well.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Because it is expensive. But the youth gets to like have a three day experience or whatever age you are and get to see so many different people live and like really have an experience versus just getting in a car, going to parking and seeing one show and also spending a thousand bucks.

[Chris Frangela]

You know, I go now, I go to these 80s, like five 80s bands play, and they all have like four hits. So they'll play just those four hits. And I'm not kidding, they actually put them on like a giant lazy Susan. And this is. It's the funniest thing. And they'll still finish their like Flock of Seagulls will finish Iran and then they'll start moving and Adam Ant will come next. The rounding and it just keeps. It's like a lazy Susan where they.

[Heather McDonald]

They did that at Fire Aid.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, they did?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

It's the greatest Fire Aid still. Cause you don't, you know, you don't gotta wait around too long for like, this is the new one. Like oh shit. They're like just as soon as they did it, they just move it around onto the next one.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. So these scientists all had to do something with.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, wait, I have a bunch of different things.

[Heather McDonald]

Here are all the people.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. Monica went missing and she's an aerospace engineer at the Air Force Base. She vanished during a hike in LA county on June 25th. That's pretty weird.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

In LA. Okay. Melissa Casey says. I don't know if I'm saying it right. She was from the Los Alamos National Laboratory employee. She disappeared in June of 25 after leaving her phone behind. A lot of them never took their phone or their keys. There was this general named William Neil McCasland. He's just missing. He's a retired Air Force official, formerly linked. Linked to unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Meaning like the alien stuff. Research. He disappeared from New Mexico in February of 26 and he left behind his phone and wallet. Then there was this other guy, Nuno. Nuno. He was a MIT nuclear physicist. He was shot in December 20, 2025. No one knows.

[Chris Frangela]

It was all shot same month.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, no one knows who shot him. Then this other person was also shot in 2026. Carl Gil. Jason Thomas. And he was a astrophysicist. Jason Thomas. He's deceased. He was found in Massachusetts Lake on March in March of 2026, after vanishing. So he disappeared and they found him dead in a lake. And then Frank Maywald, he's deceased. He was a NASA gpl. This is all within a couple years. And then Steven Garcia, he was a national nuclear security. I don't know how he died. And then this researcher, Amy Estridge. Her 2022 death was by suicide, but it's actually being reexamined.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And anyway, so what's the.

[Chris Frangela]

What are they saying? Why. Why is it. Because they are different fields. One is like.

[Heather McDonald]

But they all have to do with like aerospace engineering or alien stuff. Oh, so did they. Do they know. Do they all know stuff? Stuff about aliens, about anything that is. But now they say that they are going to investigate. Like FBI is going to investigate. So then. I don't know. I mean, it's. It's weird. I mean, it's. It's one thing if it was like three people. It's 11.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And it's all like top people. And maybe three of those you could take out of the equation. It's still eight. Okay. It's. I don't know.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Do you think. Do you think that we went and flew behind the moon and all that? Or now do you not think we did that either? The arbitus.

[Chris Frangela]

I mean, of course I see the things online, you know, but do you think we did? Yeah, sure. I always say yes until I'm proven otherwise. You know, which is probably. Do you still believe these days? I think that's the wrong way to go through life. You know, everyone's like, yeah, we were right. See, I told you about.

[Heather McDonald]

About us not going or going.

[Chris Frangela]

I always say, yeah, I'm sure they went, absolutely.

[Heather McDonald]

And then.

[Chris Frangela]

But I don't. What do I know?

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know either.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I just know I don't want to go. I don't want to go. I don't want to. I don't want to be fingered by Katy Perry up space.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, yeah. Wow.

[Heather McDonald]

Finger. She was cleavage. She cleavage fingered someone. I remember she also made out with that guy. Remember how bad that was? Or she was super horny when she was doing like American Idol with him. And then the. Ruby Rose.

[Chris Frangela]

Ruby Rose, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

She brought it out. But now she's like, I don't want to talk about it anymore.

[Chris Frangela]

Ruby Rose said that?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

That she was. She said she put her vagina in her face.

[Chris Frangela]

She said disgusting vagina.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, Disgusting vagina.

[Chris Frangela]

That's not nice.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I guess she's. I guess she's Seen other vaginas and doesn't think it's a good one. But anyway, she's an astronaut, so, you know. You're saying something mean about an astronaut. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

Just when she thought that had died down, because that was about a year ago and, you know, she got a lot of heat for that and it seems to be dying down. And then Ruby Rose comes out and says she's got a disgusting vagina. She's like, wow. I mean, what, I can't win these days.

[Heather McDonald]

No. Well, remember that whole thing and how it. Like. And then they opened the door and then they had to shut it so that Jeff Bezos could open it for them. Like, he's, like, saving his girlfriend.

[Chris Frangela]

Booed wife to come out.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, so many things have happened, like, in just, like, the last, like, year. It's, like, crazy.

[Chris Frangela]

I. This is why I just. I just go home and I. I mean, it's Bizarro World. And I don't know, it's like you're saying about AI, like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, did it happen? What do I know? You know? I don't know anything. Did they go to the moon? That's the strange thing about the moon. You know, the first landing was in, wait, 1969.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

And we haven't done it again in 50 years. And they're saying this one was to get them closer. In two years, they'll land on the moon. I'm like, why can't they just land on the moon again? They did it in 1969. I would imagine that things have developed where they can make it much easier.

[Heather McDonald]

And then wasn't there something weird that happened, like, two years ago where they're like, what you don't know is that the astronauts from India just went there. Remember that?

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, really? I don't know.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know.

[Chris Frangela]

I hadn't heard that.

[Heather McDonald]

I just kind of was like, okay, again, so what if we go to the moon? What is the point?

[Chris Frangela]

Well, I mean, I think for people who are into that sort of thing, it's pretty interesting.

[Heather McDonald]

So you went to the moon. I mean, is there a Ritz Carlton there? What's the point?

[Chris Frangela]

Not yet. Give it time. There'll be a. You know,

[Heather McDonald]

I like sunny, beautiful days. So I don't want to be. Even if there's stars, I don't want to be in the dark.

[Chris Frangela]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

Which outer space is dark in certain.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. Parts.

[Heather McDonald]

Isn't it dark all the time?

[Chris Frangela]

I guess there's a dark side of the moon according to Pink Floyd. But I. You know, I. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not really that type of person. I wish I was. I wish I had some answers for you.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, this is exciting. Anne Hathaway bought the rights to a novel about a trad wife. We always talk about these trad wife influencers that are, like, making their own sourdough bread. Which I'm always like. Which is weird. Cause my dad used to say the next best thing's to sliced bread. Cause there was a time when you had to make your own bread. And then it was pretty exciting to go to a store and have the bread ready to go and sliced.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Now you gotta make your own bread. So this trad wife influencer wakes up, according to this novel that will now be a movie in 19 in 1855, and has to actually live the life that she's been selling online.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

What a juicy genius.

[Chris Frangela]

Fun, fun idea.

[Heather McDonald]

Idea.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I want to read this book. I made sure that this was real because I was like, this just sounds like something that someone can make up. And if it's not real, make it real because it's a great fricking idea. The trad wife thing is just so weird. There was this influencer who, unfortunately, her child's fine. Okay. But I came across my feed. I'm like, who is this? So I looked it up. She's a young mom with a few kids and big following. And she backed up and hit her son. He's gonna be okay. Yeah, first of all. But he's little. And then she did a post, a slideshow post of like 13 photos. And it's just one photo of her holding her little boy's hand, all wrapped up and in the hospital. And then she wrote all that happened about how she backed up on him. And yeah. Is so scary. Blah, blah, blah. And all these people are like, okay, so you're at the hospital and your kid is there, and you're like, let me take a photo. And now let me do the writing on the photo. Put it in the carousel. 13 things like.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, just.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean.

[Chris Frangela]

And that's because she's an influencer.

[Heather McDonald]

Because she's an influencer. She has to.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And it's like, God. And I mean, it's really. I mean, it's just like. Like, these women, I feel like they get stuck in this world. And then they passed a law in Tennessee that you cannot feature your kids right. On your social media anymore for profit.

[Chris Frangela]

A lot of countries are Are banning social media from anyone under like 16. And.

[Heather McDonald]

And these, some of these big influencers that had moved from different places had gone to Nashville because it's fun and it's cute.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And they were living their whole life exploiting the kids and making the sourdough bread. Like three of them, the same week that this law passed, listed their homes really so that they could move to a state that. Where they can still do. So they can still feature the kids.

[Chris Frangela]

I don't get it. I don't get that whole. I mean, but whatever. I'm an old, you know, step aside, old timer. That's what I have to. That's the way I live my life now. Just step aside, old timer. It's not your world anymore. Go and die. I mean, kind of, you know, more or less. It's just let it happen.

[Heather McDonald]

I've always said. I think it's something that you get hooked into and then just like anything, like you could hate your job working for NASA and know that people are getting missing and killed.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But you're like, I've got three more years before I get my retirement and I'm just gonna like keep working. I think the same thing could happen, except that it's your kids in their life and you're exposing them to pedophiles online. But I think it's the same thing is where you started something fun with good intentions, it became really successful. Now this is how you live your life. And you're like, I don't know how to stop it.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

So we have to sell the house, move to another state.

[Chris Frangela]

So I could put my kids back.

[Heather McDonald]

I can put my kids back so I can keep filming them when they have a cold, you know, because I interviewed this other person who's done a whole series on it.

[Chris Frangela]

She was probably videotaping herself when she backed over the kids. She was probably doing with some like,

[Heather McDonald]

you know, so many people do things in their car because I think they realize those do better versus than just sitting there and telling the story.

[Chris Frangela]

There's a thing about that. Yeah. You put lipstick on you makeup, you

[Heather McDonald]

have to eat, you have to, you know, have the sounds of putting the makeup. But like. And then tell your story. And. And a lot of it is driving and like ranting.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. I see a lot of people doing lives from their car driving.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

I'm like, I feel like that's real bad.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

The moment I take my eyes off the road, I go right off the road. I don't know, maybe I just have bad balance or something. I can't. I try to text for a second and I'm off the road.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, good. You should. You shouldn't. There is diet product featured this because they were like, into all the comments that came. There is a new Hallmark original movie called All's Fair in Love and Mahjong. And, you know, it's about some women playing mahjong Mah jong, right? Oh, am I saying it wrong? Mahjong mah jong, which has been around for a long time, but it's really taking over with women, especially, like, my age, but younger.

[Chris Frangela]

You're saying celebrities now?

[Heather McDonald]

Celebrities. Julia Roberts loves it. And it really. I've done it twice. It is. I'm gonna have to do a lot more to understand the game.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But it is really fun. Cause it's all these really cute tiles, and you match it. The tiles in a pattern to win. And you can kind of talk and it keeps you thinking. And it's just like the feeling of the tiles. All of it is a really girly thing. And it originally was, I guess from China is where it originally started. But I always heard it, women playing it like it, you know, in the Jewish communities in America, like, you know, in older women. And now it's like infiltrating all different kinds of women.

[Chris Frangela]

My mother has been playing mahjong for 50 years. I mean, every single day, her whole life. Still doing it.

[Heather McDonald]

So she's got her friends. Oh.

[Chris Frangela]

Now she's doing it online. She's got her own thing going on. Oh, she's been killing it forever.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, they. People are up in arms.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, no.

[Heather McDonald]

Because there aren't enough Asians in the movie.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, yeah, you got to put a few in there. Just a name alone.

[Heather McDonald]

No, there is one Asian.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, I don't see her in the picture.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know if she's in the post. I think this girl is a little bit Asian.

[Chris Frangela]

You better be sure of that.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know, but it's your typical story of the girl likes mahjong and then a really cute contractor that doesn't look anything like any contractor that you come to your house that has a shirt tucked in, a belt that fits, jeans at the waist, smelling fresh and delightful, actually shows up, doesn't leave your project midtime.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. Yeah. She comes back the next day.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Stays within budget. Like.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, they fall in love while she's playing it. Whatever. It's Hallmark. But I just thought it was funny because then I thought, well, maybe there'll be some different thoughts in this Article about people being like, oh, God, just watch it. Or not. No. Everybody was still like, does Hallmark have no shame? I'm like, so what? Like, what are.

[Chris Frangela]

We worked with this one lady. I mean, if you.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. If you're do. If they're really reflecting a story that happened in town and these women.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Are playing it because they like it. Like, yeah. What are we supposed to do? Like, you're not allowed to play the game.

[Chris Frangela]

I feel like Hallmark town like, AI Must be letting Hallmark write their scripts now or something. This feels.

[Heather McDonald]

That's what the Comeback is about, is that she gets on a sitcom that's written by AI.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, really?

[Heather McDonald]

Really. And it's really funny, especially if you kind of know the ins and outs of AI it's like we're dying watching it. Like, how they come up with the jokes and everything.

[Chris Frangela]

And do you remember that show we were on called Punchline? That was the woman who hosted Punchline, Melissa Peterman. She's in mahjong. Loving Mahjong.

[Heather McDonald]

I. Okay. So anyway, Jennifer Aniston. They said New York Post. Jennifer Aniston subtly reacts after ex husband Justin Thoreau. Oh, by the way, last week I mispronounced the former prime minister of Canada. That's.

[Chris Frangela]

He's a Thoreau.

[Heather McDonald]

No, he's something else. Trudeau.

[Chris Frangela]

Trudeau, that's right.

[Heather McDonald]

I said Thoreau.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, Justin Trudeau.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. I said Justin in Thoreau when I talked about Katy Perry. Dating them and fingering people.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Or fingering their cleavage. Sorry. Anyway, so that was. That was an Anna Kendrick story. Allegedly. Anyway, people were really mad at me about that.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, so Justin and she were married back in the Chelsea days. They were very cute. They were a newish couple. They got married, they got divorced. And he is 54. Aniston is 57. He's 54. And he had a new baby, his first baby with his wife, who is like in her 30s, so he's like 20 years older than her. And he took a photo of him shirtless with the newborn. Did you do that when your baby was born?

[Chris Frangela]

They tell. They make you do it.

[Heather McDonald]

They make the husbands take off the shirts.

[Chris Frangela]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

To have them bond.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Did you skin to skin before your wife? Skin to skinned.

[Chris Frangela]

No. No, I don't think so. I think it was her first, then me.

[Heather McDonald]

I think Peter held both babies before me.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. I don't remember.

[Heather McDonald]

Just because it's like they're taking care of me and then they're like, here.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

To the baby.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But our kids are older, so that it wasn't. He didn't have to get all shirtless and, and all that. But anyway, so her reaction was that she liked it.

[Chris Frangela]

She liked the.

[Heather McDonald]

She looked at the photo.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

I almost think that someone in her social media world is like, your ex just had a baby. Just like it.

[Chris Frangela]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

Just like it. And then that way no one's gonna say, why didn't you like it? Because you knew. You know, they're always making such a big deal about her love life, her exes, whether she was pregnant, pregnant with Trip, all the times people thought she was pregnant. And so for him to have a child. And then you wonder, well, aren't that

[Chris Frangela]

for like friendly exes though or something? Don't they? Aren't they the ones that we still get along?

[Heather McDonald]

She is so into her hypnotist life coaching boyfriend that she's happy.

[Chris Frangela]

Good.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, if that isn't like if she wasn't Jennifer Aniston and it was Your mom, your 57 year old mom dating a life coach who's a hypnotist, you would be calling all your siblings and you'd be like, we need to get her into a conservative shift intervention. Yeah. We need to make sure that we have complete access of all of her money before this hypnosis takes all of our mother's money.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, but because she's Jennifer Aniston, everyone's like, good for you. Yeah. So she's like, oh, great. Justin had a baby. I'm done with that. She did recently talk about it how she said she just wanted to have her own baby. So when it didn't work out, she did go through fertility and treatments and everything. And then when she, it just, she just never wanted to adopt.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Which is people. Which I think it was kind of good to be honest about that.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, like.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. So then Michael Jackson has his. This is the Michael biopic and it divides the family. So the new Michael Jackson movie is. It's on track to make $16 million when it opens next weekend. And the movie star, it's Michael's nephew, Jafar Jackson. And his proud, his sons are Prince. And remember Blanket.

[Chris Frangela]

Sure.

[Heather McDonald]

Now he goes by Biggie.

[Chris Frangela]

Biggie. Blanket was his name. Blanket Middleman.

[Heather McDonald]

No, Blanket. There's no Blanket in it.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, he's not Blanket anymore.

[Heather McDonald]

No, they just called him Blanket because he was a baby in a blanket.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Remember when he dangled him like, I wonder how he feels now when he sees that dangling video because he almost dropped him. He really almost did because it was kind of like in a slippery thing. And anyway he's. They're happy about how much money it's going to make, but Paris has issues with it. I don't know what her deal is. They. They all have a lot of money. They're. All the kids are taken care of.

[Chris Frangela]

Did they get the money? Did they get the Michael Jackson money?

[Heather McDonald]

Paris has allegedly called the movie dishonest regarding certain aspects of her father's life, leading to the legal friction with the estate and forcing reshoots. Now I think I'm guessing if the nephew is playing him, it's not going

[Chris Frangela]

to go into any.

[Heather McDonald]

We're not going to get into. It'll stop Neverland and all. And like we're not going to see the scenes where he. His plus ones for were, you know, 18 month relationships with two different 10 year old boys. Webster and buying rings, things. Yeah, the jewelry store. Right. He had Webster, he had the monkey.

[Chris Frangela]

Bubbles.

[Heather McDonald]

Bubbles. He had Brooke Shields.

[Chris Frangela]

Right, that's right.

[Heather McDonald]

And so I think it's gonna be.

[Chris Frangela]

Didn't they get married? Brooke Shields and him, weren't they.

[Heather McDonald]

No. She recently said they never even like did anything together.

[Chris Frangela]

I remember they were just friends, VMAs or something.

[Heather McDonald]

And no, they kid. He kissed Lisa and they did get married.

[Chris Frangela]

What I meant, yes, this Lisa Marie Presley.

[Heather McDonald]

And I don't know if they ever had sex. She did say like it was on Oprah. She said, no, it was a real marriage. But he was. I felt like he was like Lamar Odom in that he just wanted to marry her to like not only look like he liked women, but also to say I married the King of Rock and now I'm the King of Pop. And. And she was just like kind of up and said yes.

[Chris Frangela]

So where does this movie go to? Does it go to like.

[Heather McDonald]

No, it's like a real movie theater.

[Chris Frangela]

I know. No, no, no, I know it's gonna be a big movie movie. I'm excited. I'll see it. But like, does it stop at Thriller? Does it go beyond that?

[Heather McDonald]

I'm going to tell you exactly what it's going to be. I'm going to predict.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Every time I've seen a movie about Michael Jackson, they are obsessed with the

[Chris Frangela]

Pepsi commercial, the Pepsi Fire because.

[Heather McDonald]

As they should because apparently that's when he kind of got addicted to painkillers.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then that kind of changed the trajectory of like the rest of his life. Life. I mean it's like there's so much that you could do, but I think because the family's behind it. Yeah. They maybe they'll touch on the accusations.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

But it's going to be present, presented that if you ever believed that he was a perpetrator, you'll walk, leave going, oh, my God. He definitely was not. Like, they'll show whatever they can to make you realize that, you know, he'll be like, what? That little boy's parents is suing me. That's strange. I told her, you know, like, they'll make it that. Oh, my God. Yes. The little boy's parents were thirsty for money. They set it up like they're gonna present it that you won't believe it because there's a whole online campaign going on right now trying to prove that. That he was not a pedophile in any way.

[Chris Frangela]

Well, that's always been the case. Right. There are certain. There are. People say yes, people say no. I mean, I've. I've seen all that.

[Heather McDonald]

I just don't.

[Chris Frangela]

Documentaries and everything.

[Heather McDonald]

It's like, literally everybody will tell their kids, no adult needs to ask a child for help.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

So someone comes to your child and says, would you like to help me find my puppy?

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, it went under the car. Can you help me find it? So you ask a little child, yeah, I can help you. You know, so why would any adult want to hang out with young kids that aren't their own for sleepovers? I mean, we will remember the video of him being like, I just don't think there's anything sweeter than a little boy sleeping. Well, you have a. You give them a little warm milk. First of all, who wants warm milk? Never understood that. A little piece. A little warm milk. What Put on the twinkling lights.

[Chris Frangela]

He had an amusement park at his house, you know, that was right there. It was like a little weird.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And then people were like, well, that's because he didn't have a childhood. Well, there's a lot of kids that, you know, entered child labor, you know, that had to, like, work, you know,

[Chris Frangela]

at factories, Ferris wheel in the backyard. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I watched the Neverland and I watched it happen in real life. And he could be a wonderful father to you, and he could be a wonderful person to everybody around him.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I believe he liked.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Young boys.

[Chris Frangela]

I mean, I think that's. Yeah. Everybody.

[Heather McDonald]

And I mean, no, I don't think ever. I think people. People will be writing me, trust me.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Being mad that I'm even. You know, whatever.

[Chris Frangela]

Just because it is strange, though, because if it was anybody else with the accusation if the guy. If he worked at Target. And the same accusations. People are like, absolutely. But the fact that he has hit songs. Is that why people don't.

[Heather McDonald]

I think they're always. Well, the same thing's happening with Melissa Gilbert's husband, what's his name?

[Chris Frangela]

Timothy Busfield.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. It's the same thing is that when a young child comes and accuses a really rich, powerful person of something.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

The only defense is you have shit. Poor parents. Parents.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

That are making you lie and doing this so that they can get a money grab.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, if you want to believe that you can. But the other part is it happened.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And then someone is like, well, luckily for you, the guy that touched your kid doesn't work, you know, selling hot dogs. She's really rich. And. And it's never gonna take the pain away. But at least maybe you guys can like have money for therapy in a nice house. Like, let's go.

[Chris Frangela]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And so then you're like, okay, fine. Yeah, let's. You're right, I did get fucked over. Yeah. I should go do this and go after them. But it's always gonna be the excuse. Same with a woman going after a powerful man. Oh, this lazy, gold digging bitch.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And you're like, do you really think sometimes it can happen? Sure. But do you really think people would go this long of a thing and put their kids. I don't know.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But you know, it.

[Chris Frangela]

Will you see the movie? Are you going to see the movie?

[Heather McDonald]

Probably, because I. I want to see the scene of the m. Of the fire on fire, which will be. I loved the original made for TV movie about that. Angela Bassett played the mom and I can't remember who played the dad.

[Chris Frangela]

Lawrence Hilton Jacobs from welcome Back Cotter. He was Boom Boom Washington and welcome Back.

[Heather McDonald]

And it was really like just Jackson 5. It really went up just to like when he broke off from the family.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And it was like he. The dad was so mean to them. And they had like. And I remember he had like a little rat that it was. That was his only friend. And you know, it was just really sad. And then they realized like, oh my God, he's so good. And then. But also how like Diana Ross like took an interest in him because he was like cuter and younger.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

The other ones were like 17 and grown and it was just like, well, you know, and just how cute. You know, everyone just fell in love and just how mean he was about making them work. And it's like he was the modern Day trad wife.

[Chris Frangela]

Joe. Joe Jackson.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Joe Jackson was the modern. Was today's modern day trad wife influencer. That's just like putting out the kids for money. And then, like, can't stop even when, like, she was like. And then, and then. And then it was like a terrible cheater. And.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. I just hope they have the scene where. Yeah, remember, Remember he did that Martin Bashir interview? Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, that's where he says that. And he was in the tree.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. He went up to the tree house. Come on up. It's fun to climb trees. And Martin Bashir's like interviewing him from the tree.

[Heather McDonald]

And then they go to that, that, that furniture store that's still in charge

[Chris Frangela]

when he just keeps pointing out stat ugly statues. I'll take it. I'll take that.

[Heather McDonald]

And then they found out that he never paid or never came back for it. I don't know if he took it and never paid or just never came back for it. The person's getting all excited about their commission. They're like, your gold.

[Chris Frangela]

He's like, I finally sold that 12 foot gold eagle. Who bought it? Michael Jackson. And he never came back.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I remember at Mason Disick's first birthday. Oh, Chris. And at the time Bruce were there and we rode off on the Neverland Ranch carousel.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, it's. You went to.

[Heather McDonald]

No, they, they, they had it shipped. It was in a place where you could rent it and bring it. Oh, and the very famous event planner got it.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I was like, oh, this is so interesting because the girls, one of the girls, Courtney had dated, one of the three T's, Remember they started a band called the Three T's. Tito had three sons. Sons. Oh, and that was her boyfriend. And so they spent their, like one of their Kim or her 16th birthday at Neverland. Oh, and we're on the carousel there. And then cut to Courtney's son's first birthday. We're on the carousel.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then at my school, one of the three. That same three. One of the teas. His kids went to St. Mel's and we had a carnival. And then that caravel, that carousel was there again.

[Chris Frangela]

Really?

[Heather McDonald]

Michael Jackson. And they also had a Michael Jackson impersonator. Oh, and I also thought that was all so weird. And I'm like, yeah, no one ever puts like two and two together. Maybe we know like the Tom Petty round or something.

[Chris Frangela]

He doesn't have a carousel. Tom Petty's no fun.

[Heather McDonald]

I always thought they should just because they mentioned living in Resita.

[Chris Frangela]

It's a long day. Yeah. Great song.

[Heather McDonald]

Down Ventura Boulevard. So I get so excited. Speaking of the Valley, Calabasas Confidential Netflix reality series starting May 29th. And it is about. It's kind of like there's a show called Gen Z on Bravo. No, Next Gen on Bravo. Where they took like some re. Some Nepo babies from reality stars and put them in New York. They're doing it in la and this one is Calabasas. And they found different rich kids that live in Calabasas that are in their 20s or somehow and they're like gorgeous. And the. The cast that I saw, the three people, they're black, so I don't know why this is a white hand, but maybe there's more. Anyway, living their rich life. And they've got the Erewhon smoothie. Yeah, she's got a smoothie and a sunglasses and. And so they're back home where the drama never left. So it must be that these kids went to college and then come back.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Those are the only jobs in LA is if you are a Nepa baby. And then you come back from college and you can get your own reality job.

[Chris Frangela]

I mean, are people going to watch this? They're back home where the drama never ends.

[Heather McDonald]

It's like Jordyn woods little sister. Remember Jordyn woods was Kylie Jenner's best friend that then got with Tristan that one night. Right, sure.

[Chris Frangela]

I'm gonna say yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. So anyway, she went off. She's doing great. She married, she's getting. She's engaged.

[Chris Frangela]

Jordan woods did.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, she's engaged to some big footballer, basketball player or something. She's got a big ass Diamond. Had a big fun party.

[Chris Frangela]

Nice.

[Heather McDonald]

She has a younger sister who's in this. Oh, named like Jody woods or so I don't know. And then I saw a couple other people, but I don't know, it could be kind of fun.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

All right. Okay. Cher, you know, her son is. She's getting the conservatorship for her son. He's doing very poorly. Elijah Blue.

[Chris Frangela]

Greg Allmans. Yeah, her and Greg Allmans.

[Heather McDonald]

But anyway, she has a 15 year old granddaughter that she didn't know about.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

So she just found out that this girl, this model named Katie Edmonds dated her son in 2010 and gave birth. And so now she has a granddaughter who's 15. And I think it's kind of. I mean, I think it's so great. I hope that Cher, I mean, cher's in her 80s. Like she should embrace this girl and try to form Something I hope she doesn't like, get all guarded thinking that like the granddaughter and the mom are gonna try to take her money. Cause it's like, bitch, you have enough money. Okay, like have some fun with your granddaughter.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Like how.

[Chris Frangela]

I think that's a good one.

[Heather McDonald]

I think that is a good. I think that would be so fun. Yeah, she's. Oh, they said learn that. She learned about her name's ever existence last year and was speechless before welcoming the girl into her home and to meet her for the first time. So that's kind of fun now. This is weird. This was one of those things I didn't know if was true or not. A bride's sister in law douses her in black paint moments before for ceremony and horrifying revenge attack. And like I've seen videos where someone just like throws shit on a bride and it's like an AI thing. So I didn't know if it was true, but this is true. I don't know why the sister in law hated the woman marrying your brother. I think that's so weird. Like, if you don't like who's marrying your brother, then fucking step away. You don't have to go to the wedding. You could see him for lunch on his own. Can you imagine? Throws black paint at her. Anyway, she had to do three years in prison. Oh man, I can't imagine. Who cares? Let me see what else is going on. Oh, this Japan's Princess Mako. She was actually a princess in Japan.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

She gave up her royal life to marry a commoner and was spotted with her little heir. She's a little baby. Baby. After fleeing New York City for the suburbs.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, where's she at? She's in.

[Heather McDonald]

She's like in Ronkonkoma.

[Chris Frangela]

That's where I'm from. Maybe that's like the suburbs.

[Heather McDonald]

They didn't say what part of the suburbs. But she has a husband. He's Asian too. And they play mahjong. Don't worry.

[Chris Frangela]

This sounds like a Lifetime movie. She gave up the royal life to go marry a commoner.

[Heather McDonald]

This has got to be a movie. This should absolutely be a movie, right? There was another movie years ago, and it was called the Princess and the Marine. And it was like a true story about like post 9 11. Marine is like over there.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Falls in love with a actual princess in the Middle East. I don't know what country she's from. And they fought, they meet and they fall in love and she gives up everything, comes back here. She's on Oprah. And she's just like. And Oprah's like, what do you love about life? She's like, I just love cleaning my sink. I like doing the dishes, and then I like cleaning my sink.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, they got divorced.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. She's probably. Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

I think it, like, these things.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Are you like, we'll see.

[Chris Frangela]

We'll see.

[Heather McDonald]

We'll see. Like, how in love they are and how fun it is. I mean, when she gets, like, closer to, like, 40. I feel like once she's 40, she's gonna be like, wait a minute.

[Chris Frangela]

It. Yeah, Like.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, Like, I could be the princess of. First of all, I didn't know that Japan had, like, royalty. I guess it's, like, old. She's the niece. She's probably so she's.

[Chris Frangela]

Wait.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah. The crown's prince and. Oh, she. Okay. So that she would be the first child of Japan's crown prince and the niece of Emperor Naruto. Good.

[Chris Frangela]

You know, royal life's not all correct. It's basically what Meghan Markle did. Right. Didn't she just leave the royal life to become a regular?

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, this is who should have been on that freaking show. Yeah, she should have had the Japanese princess come over and be like, we're two princesses.

[Chris Frangela]

What it's like to just leave the.

[Heather McDonald]

And make sourdough bread and be like, what the are we doing making sourdough bread? We could just. We could be real princesses. Like, what if this is what real princesses are doing? Are the books going to change? Like, for kids?

[Chris Frangela]

They might have to.

[Heather McDonald]

Where it's like, instead of being Cinderella, and then you get to shop for your own groceries.

[Chris Frangela]

At Target.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, at Target. And go hang out and put little flowers on a salad. What's going on with your friend Megan?

[Chris Frangela]

I don't know. I mean, I haven't heard anything lately. I haven't called you. No, I haven't. I haven't heard from. I wish.

[Heather McDonald]

Chris, where are your next shows?

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, my God. Where am I next? The next show is, let's see, April 30th. April 30th. New York comedy Club in Stanford, Connecticut. You ever have done it? New York Comedy Club, Sanford, Connecticut. I'm daring.

[Heather McDonald]

I think I have Thursday night. It's really nice.

[Chris Frangela]

And then, of course, back on Long island, my hometown brokerage Comedy Club, May 1st and 2nd, two nights. The tickets could move a little quicker.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Chris Frangela]

They call you, you know, the agents. The agents call you.

[Heather McDonald]

Get out there.

[Chris Frangela]

Juicy Scoopers Brokerage, Bellmore, Long Island. And then I'm in Nashville. Zane Zanies, which I love. The new room they built like, a new room. And I'm in that new room on May 29 and 30.

[Heather McDonald]

All your mom influencers go see him before you have to move to another state.

[Chris Frangela]

Exactly. Yeah. That's Nashville. Come out to Nashville.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Frangela]

And then June 4th, I'm at the Funny Bone in Columbus. Those are the next ones.

[Heather McDonald]

And then in between, we have May 9th. Saturday, May 9th. I mean, that shit are people saying so quick. They're so excited. People made their weekend plans. It's Netflix is a joke. We're at the Avalon Theater. I'm trying to get a party together. You made me feel stressed out.

[Chris Frangela]

I don't know.

[Heather McDonald]

It might just be us going to dinner. I don't know. What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to get a party together? Okay.

[Chris Frangela]

All right. Where are you taking me to? At least it's gotta be a nice dinner.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, it'll definitely be a dice. I mean, do we just want to do. Do we want to do. Well, let's put it out there. If someone's driving around, do you want to host us at your place? I mean, I can definitely get us a reservation at a happening spot.

[Chris Frangela]

I don't even know what that is these days. Like, is there happening spots in Hollywood?

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I have my connection to Craig's. Well, and paparazzi will be there.

[Chris Frangela]

Who cares about that?

[Heather McDonald]

I thought you wanted, like, a big Hollywood night.

[Chris Frangela]

Oh, no, you knew. Yeah, but not Craig's necessarily.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, well, we love Craig's.

[Chris Frangela]

Well, half of my friend's a waiter there still. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, that's right. Then we definitely should go there. No, I love Craig's. I love Craig, and. But it's not. That is not very close to where the venue is.

[Chris Frangela]

No, it's a bit of a ride.

[Heather McDonald]

We need a place closer to the venue that could be, like, a chic Hollywood hot spot.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah, I don't even know if that exists in that. I'm not familiar with that area at all anymore. I used to be, but those days are over anyway. Doesn't make any difference. I'm. I'm excited about the show.

[Heather McDonald]

Show. I'm so excited. I'm excited because it's gonna be really great and so fun.

[Chris Frangela]

May 9th. It'll be here before you know it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Brandy, Julie, and Brandon. Julie are gonna be on the show this Thursday, so it's like double header week. Triple header. Yeah, with the. With.

[Chris Frangela]

How are they doing, by the way?

[Heather McDonald]

They're Doing great. Yeah, they're doing great.

[Chris Frangela]

You know, I've only met them, like, twice in my life.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, get ready.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

We're gonna have a sleepover. Oh, yes.

[Chris Frangela]

I can't wait. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So everybody, you go and you make sure that you check out. If you have. Not yet. Love cover to cover.

[Chris Frangela]

And if you're covers, my podcast, come and check that out. People love it.

[Heather McDonald]

And any place that you can see Chris live, nobody is disappointed.

[Chris Frangela]

Well, I'll tell you this.

[Heather McDonald]

What?

[Chris Frangela]

I was just in Toronto last week. Sold out.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Chris Frangela]

And I don't know if you. You need to play Toronto. They are dying for you up there. Oh, juicy scoopers. And they were like. Like, we need Heather up here. And I said, I'll tell her. So I think.

[Heather McDonald]

You think they'll accept me, though, because I mispronounced that prime minister's name.

[Chris Frangela]

Actually, somebody mentioned it to me. That's right. That's why I knew about it. Trudeau. It's okay. They'll still accept you, I think.

[Heather McDonald]

Sounds like he wasn't that popular to begin with.

[Chris Frangela]

No, they don't like him.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. So I think I'm okay by mispronouncing it.

[Chris Frangela]

I talked about it a little bit, about him dating Katy Perry and the. And all that, and people were into it. It was fun. It was good show. Nice people up there. The people of Toronto.

[Heather McDonald]

I know, they're all so nice.

[Chris Frangela]

I never get to see these places, but it's a beautiful city. I'm like, no where I was. But they said you're not. They told. They didn't tell me that, though. You're not in the good part. Like, the club was in a weird part of. But it was really fun. Yeah, Great. People love it. Loved it. Thank you, Toronto.

[Heather McDonald]

Go, Chris. Of course. Everything for me is heathermcdonald.net join my Patreon. Get on it it. And we'll see you next time. But the next time we bleed together will probably be the show live.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah. A couple of weeks. How's that?

[Heather McDonald]

Let me know about your outfit.

[Chris Frangela]

How long am I coming out for? How long am I. I'm gonna go through it after.

[Heather McDonald]

But you will be a significant part of the show, as always. I'm just thinking, like, there'll be, like, little funny segments. I want to give. Have some stand up. I want to have some. How we tell our good stories. Have some fun moments. Have some. Then we'll do some, like, funny housewife talk with Brandy and Julie. But you and I will do something else.

[Chris Frangela]

Am I doing legitimate standup. Like, am I coming out with a microphone and doing stand up?

[Heather McDonald]

I think we. Yeah, I think we could do a little. We have to talk about it. I still have all these ideas.

[Chris Frangela]

All right.

[Heather McDonald]

It's gonna be all surprise, and it's going, you know, it's. It's not going to be. Well, we will film it for ourselves.

[Chris Frangela]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

But there isn't, like, a streaming option, so. So the. So if something is real juicy, you know, that won't be shared outside of the thing. So we can really have a lot of freedom to say and do whatever the we want.

[Chris Frangela]

That sounds fun to me.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Chris Frangela]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Because we don't care. We have no loyalty to anybody.

[Chris Frangela]

No, I just.

[Heather McDonald]

Including the astronauts. All right, love you. Bye.