Chris Franjola, Epstein, Wicked Press and Gay Clubs

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Episode: Chris Franjola, Epstein, Wicked Press and Gay Clubs
Date: November 20, 2025
Host: Heather McDonald | Guest: Chris Franjola

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Overview

This episode of Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and guest comedian Chris Franjola dives into the juiciest corners of pop culture, recent celebrity drama, and true crime. They cover everything from the state of Las Vegas, the BravoCon scene, gender politics in fandom, the “Wicked” movie press tour, Epstein’s infamous past, bizarre viral podcast moments, and Thanksgiving traditions.

Heather and Chris’s signature witty banter peppers the episode, combining sharp social commentary with irreverent humor, making for an engaging and candid reflection on the week’s most “juicy” topics.

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Main Topics and Discussion Points

1. Vegas Recap & BravoCon Observations

[02:34–07:44]

• Heather’s Weekend in Vegas:
  • Recap of performing at MGM Grand and attending David Copperfield’s show. “You just have to go. You just have to see it.” (Heather, 03:05)
  • Clubbing at Hakkasan with BravoCon crowd; DJ Kyle Cooke (Summer House) was surprisingly great.
• Las Vegas Vibes:
  • City busier than ever despite rumors of it being “dead.” Heather and Chris both agree: “It was so fucking crowded.” (Heather, 03:50)
  • The club had a “happy, stylish mix” of people—Bravo fans and regular Vegas partygoers.
• Changing Demographics in Bravo Fandom:
  • Chris observes an influx of straight, often older male commentators in the Bravo scene (04:33–07:44).
  • “There seems to be a tide of straight older men...pivot towards a Bravo love or Real Housewives love for career resurgence.” (Chris, 05:33)
  • Heather: “Can we have one thing? Can we just have one thing that's ours that we've cultivated for years?” (07:20)
  • Both express discomfort with men who don't relate to the female-centric content getting top commentator spots.

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2. “Wicked” Press Tour and Hollywood Press Peculiarities

[09:16–18:24]

• The “Wicked” Movie Hype:
  • Heather’s enduring discomfort with the “Wicked” press tour: “It’s back. It’s the press for Wicked... I did not enjoy the movie.” (09:16)
• Ariana Grande & Cynthia Erivo’s Odd Press Behavior:
  • Both actresses called out for extreme thinness and awkward, “clawing” body language at public appearances.
  • Heather’s observation: “In the middle of her being interviewed … Cynthia releases the clutch from her vagina and goes over and just moves it around. There was literally nothing wrong with it.” (11:04)
  • Theory: Maybe they are “leaning into” viral weirdness for promo, or maybe there’s genuine chemistry between the two.
  • Rumors about behind-the-scenes tension and pay disparity; Ariana intervened for equal pay (13:09).
• Handling Entourages and Boundaries Backstage:
  • Cynthia Erivo apparently snapped at a manager for bringing people uninvited before a performance, which Heather and Chris relate to as performers.
  • “You can be scary in that moment. How did your manager not clear that?” (Heather, 17:26)

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3. Celebrity Crime & True Crime Updates

[18:30–21:39]

• David (LAPD Suspect):
  • Updates around LAPD naming “David” as a suspect in a teen’s death, found dismembered in a Tesla trunk.
  • Chris on police response: “If somebody’s dead in your trunk, you’re immediately a suspect, right?” (19:00)
  • Details about property transfers to his mother—echoing the O.J. Simpson/Golman civil case.
  • Chris jokes about “homicidal love” and comedic takes on true crime.

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4. Britney Spears & The Kardashians: Pop Culture Crossover

[23:54–26:57]

• Britney, Kim, and Khloe’s Sleepover:
  • How Britney Spears ended up in bed with Kim and Khloe Kardashian, thanks to her manager’s Hollywood ties.
  • Heather addresses rumors, connections, and the dynamic of the hangout being more Christian service than genuine friendship. “She is what you see.” (Heather, 26:24)
• Online Rumors and Fan Theories:
  • Some fans speculate about Lou Taylor’s presence and past conservatorship connections, but Heather doubts Britney’s overthinking.

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5. Social Media, Podcast Culture, and Viral Weirdness

[27:52–54:59]

• Viral Podcast Moments — Extreme Edition
  • Heather shares the “most disgusting” podcast story she’s ever heard: a guest describes making and using “pee poo ice cubes” in a sexual context.
    • “She’s doing this as a job, and she chose to go on a podcast for free and tell about it. But is she like, this needs to be...You need to die with this story.” (Heather, 50:31)
• Sexual Health Trends & Dating Taboos:
  • Young women in podcasts discussing resistance to condom use: “Enough with the condom agenda.” (53:36)
  • Heather warns: “Maybe I don’t want you to be my daughter-in-law. Like, what are you talking about?” (54:30)
• Lavender Marriages and Partnerships:
  • Rise of openly-gay/straight platonic marriages; mention of a new app connecting those seeking non-romantic, supportive marriages (56:01–57:43).

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6. Gay Clubs, Bachelorette Parties & Shifts in Social Spaces

[58:43–61:11]

• Straight Infiltration of Gay Bars:
  • Viral TikTok post explains how straight women and their boyfriends are overtaking traditionally gay spaces.
  • Comment section joke: “Go back to showing gay porn on the screens. That’ll keep the straights out.” (60:16)
  • Both agree: Let spaces serve their intended communities.

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7. Epstein Recap — The Infamous Past Resurfaces

[29:50–36:52]

• VH1 “Fabulous Life” Revisited:
  • Old footage surfaces showing Epstein being lauded as a Wall Street baller—highlighting how public his “luxury” and connections were before his crimes became widely known.
  • Heather and Chris break down how Epstein secured powerful industry positions, relationships, and funding without credentials.
• Who Will Visit the Island Now?
  • Epstein's island sells for $60 million, destined to become a luxury hotel.
  • Heather: “There’s a nice hotel, Starbucks… it's going to be high-end. They won’t have a problem filling it up.” (33:09)
  • On the remaining evidence: “We need to see the VHS tapes.” (34:15)
• Where's Ghislaine?
  • Ghislaine Maxwell now in the Texas prison with Jen Shah and Elizabeth Holmes—potential for a wild, all-star inmate podcast.

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8. Lighter Segments and Holiday Talk

[72:46–89:22]

• Thanksgiving Banter — Chris as “Turkey Tom”
  • Both riff on holiday traditions; Chris in a turkey costume (74:02), family routines, and Thanksgiving meal hot takes.
  • Discuss stuffing controversies (“Stuff it in the turkey or not?”), sides they love and loathe, and how turkeys became one-day-a-year celebrities.
  • Classic Juicy Scoop humor: “As a guy who’s been stuffed pretty much every year, I feel for that woman.” (Chris, 84:37)
• Awareness for Public/Fan Etiquette at Events:
  • Heather shares stories of fans accusing her of rudeness at BravoCon, emphasizing the grind and expectations celebrities face.
  • “Some people, you just cannot win.” (Heather, 81:49)
  • “Maybe you were annoying.” (Chris, 82:18)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Changing Bravo Fandom:

  • “There seems to be a tide of straight older men... pivoting towards Bravo for career resurgence.” (Chris, 05:33)
  • “Can we just have one thing that's ours that we've cultivated for years?” (Heather, 07:20)

• On “Wicked” Press Weirdness:

  • “What in the satanic grooming. What the fuck did these two girls, what souls did they have to sell to actually become real witches to star in this fucking wicked.” (Heather, 11:04)
  • “I always said that [Ariana Grande] looks like she was made in like a Japanese anime fashion.” (Chris, 14:32)

• On Social Media Decay:

  • “That's what they're doing. I mean, that is the sickest, grossest stuff I have ever heard.” (Heather, 51:17)
  • “Better be in a lavender relationship [than be on a sex podcast].” (Chris, 58:05)

• True Crime:

  • “If somebody’s dead in your trunk, you’re immediately a suspect, right?” (Chris, 19:00)

• On Thanksgiving/Family:

  • “I'm thankful for living here... and that everybody’s thriving.” (Heather, 76:41)
  • “I believe, as a turkey, that we should continue with turkey. It's put us on the map.” (Chris, as Turkey Tom, 84:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Vegas & BravoCon recap: [02:34–07:44]
• The “Wicked” Press Tour Madness: [09:16–18:24]
• David Tesla True Crime Story: [18:30–21:39]
• Britney Spears Sleepover with Kardashians: [23:54–26:57]
• Podcast/Internet Outrage, Gen Z Dating Norms: [27:52–54:59]
• Epstein’s VH1 Feature and Island Update: [29:50–36:52]
• Thanksgiving Talk, “Turkey Tom”, and Holiday Sides: [72:46–89:22]
• Fan Etiquette & Celebrity Life at Conventions: [77:04–84:10]

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Final Thoughts

Heather and Chris smoothly blend biting humor, personal anecdotes, and tabloid gossip, delivering both critical commentary and comic relief. They examine pop culture’s stranger corners—whether it’s the state of fandom, the baffling “Wicked” PR, or unthinkable podcast confessions—while ultimately celebrating the quirks and chaos that make their world so “juicy.”

Listen to Juicy Scoop for more wild scoops and sharp takes—Heather never holds back.

Transcript

[Heather McDonald]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Chris Franjola]

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[Heather McDonald]

Rated M for mature. Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales For real life, Mr. Statement, serial data and serial Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Hannah McDonald, juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, the week just keeps getting better because I have your thoughts. Favorite daddy, blue eyed, sparkling smile. Former model, dedicated father and husband, funny man.

[Chris Franjola]

Thank you.

[Heather McDonald]

Star of COVID to Cover podcast.

[Chris Franjola]

Thank you very much.

[Heather McDonald]

Touring headlining comedian, Instagram stories, aficionadio.

[Chris Franjola]

Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Killing it in all categories. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Chris. Chris Franjola.

[Chris Franjola]

Excited to be here in the house. Not Burbank. I love it.

[Heather McDonald]

I love that you come to the house. It makes my life nice too.

[Chris Franjola]

Nice to come out here. Thank you for having me. Let's. Let's get into it. Let's get into it.

[Heather McDonald]

So much to get into it.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, you know, I was at the MGM grand this weekend.

[Chris Franjola]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Where you've performed many times.

[Chris Franjola]

I performed at the Brad Garrett Comedy Club. Yeah. With my friend Brad Garrett.

[Heather McDonald]

Our show was after David Copperfield, so they were nice enough to let us go to David Copperfield on set Sunday night. And it's a Show you gotta go. You just have to go. You have to see it.

[Chris Franjola]

David Copperfield, illusionist, magician, legend, Vegas legend.

[Heather McDonald]

It's called the David Copperfield Theater.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So I think, I mean maybe there was a theater. Maybe they had something going on there before. I don't know how long he's been there, but I think, you know, he designed the theater to create these illusions and it's. There are three amazing jaw dropping moments. Anyway, we got to go backstage and meet him after, do a special illusion with a couple other special people. Very fun. So my Bravo Con recap was on Tuesday show with Brandon and Julie. I'll do more. That has happened on the Friday Patreon that I saved specifically. But it was a super fun Vegas weekend.

[Chris Franjola]

Good, great meals. How is Vegas? Still got it. Still out there, still fun.

[Heather McDonald]

We Drake was like, why people saying that it's dead. It was so fucking crowded.

[Chris Franjola]

I thought the same thing when I was there a few weeks ago. I was like, it seems there's more crowded than ever. But yeah, I think on a second Tuesdays and Wednesdays, I think where. I don't know.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean we were there from Thursday to, I mean, and they said Bravo Khan is not a big deal. Like the MGM Grands. Like what? What is it? So it wasn't like there were so many people, but there's just so many other things going on. The F1 was coming this week. There it just. You walk down on the floor of the MGM and it was bustling like every.

[Chris Franjola]

You know, and he went to a club.

[Heather McDonald]

We went to the Hakkasan club, which was so freaking fun.

[Chris Franjola]

I mean now what is it? Sparklers and all that.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, you would have loved it.

[Chris Franjola]

Next time. I was very jealous.

[Heather McDonald]

Next time we do a show there, I will make sure you come, that you're performing with me and that.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Get the experience.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Because also the DJ was great. Like played music. You would know every song was Kyle Cook from Summer House. He was very good.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

So it was just two hours of just fun. The show was over. I was happy.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, good.

[Heather McDonald]

So it was all fun.

[Chris Franjola]

Now who's hanging out in Hakkasan? I like, it was Saturday night, Saturday night.

[Heather McDonald]

This was Friday night.

[Chris Franjola]

Is it like 21 year old people or is it. I mean, what goes on?

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I didn't really see because I was looking down at the people.

[Chris Franjola]

Sure. But as you should.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, you know, there was a mix of people that were like the women from the Bravo Con weekend that like, you know, wanted to go see Kyle. And then there was mix of guys and girls and gays, like, I don't know, at least happy people. Just happy, fun, cool. Everyone looked stylish.

[Chris Franjola]

I love it.

[Heather McDonald]

And it was. It was fun. But you brought up something. And I go save it for the show.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay. Yeah, no, I wanted to bring up.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Chris Franjola]

Something I've been noticing lately. And I noticed that I was getting that Bravo Con stuff in my feed for whatever reason and annoying, whatever you want to call it. But there seems to be a tide of straight older men. There must be an agent or a manager, someone here in LA who is telling these guys to pivot towards, like a Bravo love or Real Housewives love in order to, I don't know, get a career resurgence or something, like a Jerry o', Connell, Michael Rappaport. There's quite a few of them.

[Heather McDonald]

They kind of have been in the mix for a while.

[Chris Franjola]

I understand. Yes, but.

[Heather McDonald]

But now there's a ton. And listen, everyone can enjoy it, make their money, whatever. But yeah, it's a show about housewives, and it is becoming more and more men. I don't care what your sexuality is commenting on women, their bodies, their looks, you know, what they say, what they should do, if they're a good parent or not. And it just, you know, it is. Our culture. Our culture is female women. And it's like. Yeah. As someone who's been talking about it since the very first. You were the first Andy Cohen parody.

[Chris Franjola]

Yes. Oh, God. Way back on Chelsea Laidley, you did Andy Cohen.

[Heather McDonald]

When we did the second reunion of.

[Chris Franjola]

New Jersey, I wasn't playing it. In my defense. I was playing.

[Heather McDonald]

You were just playing it, playing Andy Cohen.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

The women that actually can relate to the women are not the ones being chosen to comment or buy Bravo to do panels or do anything like that.

[Chris Franjola]

Right. I mean, if I have to see Jerry o' Connell jumping around one more time about, I don't know, somebody on Real Housewives of who gives a shit? And I mean, I'm like, this is a straight man. I get it. But I find it to be a little annoying. It's a little annoying.

[Heather McDonald]

There's a little bit of like, can we have one thing? Can we just have one thing that's ours that we've cultivated for years, that people have been doing for a long time the same time? You know, it's fine. Everyone can do it. But maybe don't put those people at the top of the pyramid to talk about it because they're insensitive. They say awful things about single Mothers and stuff like that. And it's like, you remember. Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

For many years, still going on, actually to this day, anytime there was a female sideline reporter in the NFL or anything, you know, how dare they get. These women don't belong down there. Blah, blah, blah. So now you guys need to start a whole campaign to get rid of Jerry o' Connell and Michael Rapoport from that world.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, here's the thing. You know, I. I don't know a lot about sports, so if all of a sudden, right. I was like, ranting about the tail and quarterback, whatever, and how I think he needs to be traded to the Lakers or whatever. Yeah, right. Got her with, like, a passion, right. And like saying, like, you know what? You suck. You're not good. And this coach, what people would be like, how about you don't know what the fuck you're trying? Like, what do you know about how hard it is to be a professional football player or whatever? Just like. I think the best commenters, commentators on sports are people that have actually played them to some level.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm actually a housewife. I'm actually a mother.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

I've actually been married. I. I actually have references of many people that have gone through divorce and raised kids in different stages of life. But that's besides the point. So I love that you recognize that. And, yeah. Probably won't go away. And probably if we let things go the way they're going, no women will be able to comment on Bravo. We will be doing. We'll just be surrogate mothers. We'll just be surrogate mothers.

[Chris Franjola]

Just be Stereo Khan screaming at all.

[Heather McDonald]

In the Handmaid's Tale. Yeah. Okay, so I need to talk about the scary time we're in right now. It terrified me a year ago or eight months. Whatever. It's time. It's back. It's the press for Wicked.

[Chris Franjola]

A press tour. A Wicked press.

[Heather McDonald]

A Wicked press tour is like, nerves. Like, I don't want to see it in my feed. I did not enjoy the movie. I did not like it.

[Chris Franjola]

Like the first one. No, I mean, I watched it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, we watched it together, like, in our room over the holidays, I think whenever it came out in Mammoth and we were just like. I didn't. I just didn't like it. Okay. In a story, I said how I thought I would have written it better, but I originally heard what the story was like, the backstory between Glenda and the good witch and the bad witch. I just think it could have been so much juicier. But whatever. It was a huge play. People love it. People are screaming at me as they drive, but the two of them, Cynthia, who plays the green witch, Cynthia Erivo.

[Chris Franjola]

Very talented lady, good singer, very good.

[Heather McDonald]

Singer and very accomplished. And Ariana Grande, again, very great singer, very accomplished. They're now, I'm sorry, anorexic bodies.

[Chris Franjola]

I don't know what.

[Heather McDonald]

Terribly anorexic. Look at what they look like before. Look at what they look like before. And the clawing, and the clawing and.

[Chris Franjola]

Then fidgeting on you.

[Heather McDonald]

And then she. Eddie, someone came out trying to grab Ariana Grande or whatever and it was Cynthia that was like, like she turned into the witch. There's like five bodyguards that. That's their job. Like, we don't need 92 pound Cynthia with her claws. And then she's always pawing, she's always.

[Chris Franjola]

Fixing her, fixing her necklace.

[Heather McDonald]

And then they. People zoomed in and they said the next. So when you fix a necklace. Bravo. Guys that are listening to this that don't know about necklaces that are just now getting into commenting on Bravo. So they sought to listen to Juicy scoop someone, A girlfriend might move it for you, but you would tell someone, hey, it's because the latch is in front, so you want to move it to the back. So she had this very diamond necklace, probably worth like $500,000. There was nothing wrong with it. And in the middle of her being interviewed, Ariana Grande, Cynthia releases the clutch from her vagina and goes over and just. And moves it around and then moves it back. And there was literally nothing wrong with it. It was centered before she started. And then Arna goes, oh, she's getting an itch to fix. She needs to fix. I'm like, what in the satanic grooming. What the fuck did these two girls, what souls did they have to sell to actually become real witches to star in this fucking wicked.

[Chris Franjola]

I'm going to give you my theory. Please do. I believe that it became such a online phenomenon the last press tour with all the finger holding and the making space and all that, that I believe that now they're leaning into it this time. Like, let's really kooky it up so we could get, you know, the movie made a ton of money. It was a big hit. So why not go nuts again and. And see if we can get this one to be as big a hit possibly. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Also possible is that the love and the lesbianism is truly there.

[Chris Franjola]

I hope so.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I want it to be Cynthia is. She says she's a queer Woman, not a lesbian because she was with guys before, but she's like a woman now. She has a book coming out.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

But also, Ariana Grande had this other husband that she got rid of, the.

[Chris Franjola]

Real estate guy that she married for like a couple of weeks.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. And then she got with the guy that SpongeBob SquarePants or whatever.

[Chris Franjola]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And he.

[Chris Franjola]

He's in Wicked.

[Heather McDonald]

He's in Wicked. And he looks like her brother.

[Chris Franjola]

Uh huh.

[Heather McDonald]

And looks like Frankie Grande and he was like married with a child on away. So some people think that's sort of sinister that they fell in love like while he was married and she was married. But the clutching and all that stuff, I think. Oh, also someone said, you know, Cynthia really loves Ariana Grande because Cynthia was getting 2 million and Ariana was getting 12. And Ariana went back and was like, this isn't right.

[Chris Franjola]

Make it even.

[Heather McDonald]

So, you know, and then they, so they filmed the whole thing all at once.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So then they just were like, we'll split it up, milk it out. If you tell me there's a third, I'm gonna fucking kill somebody. I cannot go through this a third time. I never want. I. It's like it, literally every time it comes like in my phone, it's like scary to me.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, really?

[Heather McDonald]

They're so skinny and they're just like.

[Chris Franjola]

And then, and then they're like climbing on each other.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And then Cynthia was like answering and, And a, like a helicopter is going over and Ariana was like, like she was swatting a fly.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

How dare it. How dare it play. Why the. Cynthia's speaking. Sorry, you're getting emotional because the helicopter. You're getting an emotional people. We're getting emotional. We're getting emotional.

[Chris Franjola]

She was telling people to quiet down. The photographers were yelling.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Chris Franjola]

And she's like, please quiet. Like, I don't know what goes on with this. I, I mean, I swear this Ariana Grande looks like she was. I, she, I always said that she looks like she was made in like a Japanese anime fashion.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, they showed old video of her? Yeah, and she was kind of like being like talking like a, A girl that, you know, grew up in East LA and was, you know, trying to jump into a gang. She was like, you don't know me. And now she's like, oh, hello.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

She went from being like Latina to Asian, like, I don't know what the fuck is happening. And blonde and just anorexic and like, just so skinny. And it just.

[Chris Franjola]

Now she's like, Fading away.

[Heather McDonald]

No, she's become translucent. Yeah, she's full blown translucent. And then I also heard that Cynthia is getting ready to do Dracula on stage. And that is why she. Because she's gonna play Dracula. Even though it's a man, she's gonna play Dracula. And so. And she. I mean, that'll be good.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, I know.

[Heather McDonald]

Scariest time.

[Chris Franjola]

Actually, people say that she looks like Lestat, the original. Like the Dracula vampire.

[Heather McDonald]

That's what I think she's trying to become. So she has a book coming out, and in the book, she says how she raged at a manager. She said she was rehearsing for a show, and the manager came in, like, hey. With a group of people that she didn't know. And she just raged and screamed at him, like, why? Bringing a bunch of people to see me rehearse. Get the fuck out. And. And. And then after that, he sent her a letter being like, okay, we're not going to work together anymore. Now he probably regrets it, but there is something so interesting about, like. And we've all dealt with this because as a comedian, when you have friends come to see you, right, they think you're just hosting a cocktail party. And so. So it's.

[Chris Franjola]

There's nothing worse.

[Heather McDonald]

So they've. The times that people, whether, you know, Peter's brought them in, or I've said come or whatever, and they've already had three drinks, and then I've got the free drinks, and they're making their drinks, and I'm like, trying to get my notes, and I'm like, literally. And they're like, five minutes. I'm like, you guys might want to see. This was the first Vegas that I said, you know what? I'm not mixing the fun with the job. I will have fun with who's ever performing with me. Drake, you know, we'll all have fun together. But this year, we started the talk of, like, inviting other people, like, the other couple. And I was like, no, I really want to just, like, do the show, and I don't want to be worried about if. So I mean, one time I was doing that lipstick. Remember that lipstick thing?

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, yes. Yeah. That was at Venetian, the female community.

[Heather McDonald]

And I was like, oh, let me make it. Let's honor my girlfriend on her birthday in October. Yeah, there's six people. They're not on the list. They're calling me from behind the table.

[Chris Franjola]

Never.

[Heather McDonald]

And I'm like, this. This is another reason why it was so seamless, is because I was finally. So I. I want to say, even Though I just ripped on her scariness. You can be scary in that moment. How did your manager not clear that?

[Chris Franjola]

I completely agree with that.

[Heather McDonald]

I bet the manager is what I think.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

No offense to anybody not. I love my gay guys. I bet he was gay. I bet he was like, found some twinks at the club.

[Chris Franjola]

You gotta come see this one.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, you gotta see Cynthia. I'm like, stop it. You represent Cynthia. And then he's like, come and look. And they're like. And they probably. Once they got there, they're like, you're amazing. And then they're probably making their drinks and talking, and she's got a show in like 20 minutes. And she's like, get the out. You know, and she, like, did her witch thing on them and they turned green and left. That's what I think happened.

[Chris Franjola]

So it's the. Yeah, the nails are. She got the big nails that, you know, that kind of all adds to it. It all adds to it. It's fun.

[Heather McDonald]

So the premiere is here. Go see it.

[Chris Franjola]

Go see it. Wicked, Part two, whatever it's called. The Venture continues.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, this is going to be quite shocking to the world, but according to tmz, the LAPD is now viewing David as a suspect. Hasn't been arrested yet in the death of the teenager Celeste Rivers, who was found dismembered in the trunk of his Tesla switches registered to him.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So talk about Colombo here.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, I know. I felt like this is. It's taken a while, Sherlock Holmes. Yeah. I mean, if somebody's dead in your trunk, you're immediately a suspect, right?

[Heather McDonald]

They say that. Which is what I've said the whole time, is that there's probably two. They're gonna find out who actually maybe finished or dismembered it or put it in the car. Like, I think he probably had something to do with the death for sure. But then he had his homie, his cousin, okay, his whatever.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Who maybe then knew a third person. And then that person did all the stuff and was dumb and left it in the car. Like, why are you leaving in the car? Like, what? So I think they're gonna. They're either have the other guy and when they haven't let the news.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And they're. The other guy is now going to turn and. And implicate him. That it was that he was told to do it or he knew about it and cleaned it up.

[Chris Franjola]

God bless him. I can't get a friend to pick me up from the airport. This guy's like, hey, listen, I can't fit this woman in the trunk. You do me a favor. No problem.

[Heather McDonald]

I'll give you free tickets and you can see me come with your gay friends while I rehearse.

[Chris Franjola]

Make sure she fits in there real good. I don't want anything sticking out. All right. I'll take care of it. Yeah, yeah. Wild.

[Heather McDonald]

But one of the things that Matt Murphy said, you know, former prosecutor said that he moved everything, all of his properties into his mother's house after the body was found.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

And the reason for that is whether he gets convicted or not, they can still go ahead and build a case like the Golemans did with O.J.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And say you were responsible and sue.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

So he wanted to move all of his properties in so that he wouldn't lose those properties.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Because he'll have. He'll be penniless when they sue him.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. I'm not familiar with his work, but I listened to a couple songs. It's not really. It's like, it's not really rap. It's like kind of mellow.

[Heather McDonald]

One is called. What is the one called? Drake Homicidal Love. Oh, and then he has a music video where they're dragging a body into the back of a car.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, really?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. And he has a bloody shirt on that have handprints on. Like, as he was burning the person, they grabbed his shirt.

[Chris Franjola]

Have you heard his new song she Don't Fit? That's not nice. Come on, everybody. It's not nice.

[Heather McDonald]

This is Juicy Scoop, people. It's a comedian show, comedic commentary. Facts don't always fit.

[Chris Franjola]

That's exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

Don't come here for your news, come here for your apps.

[Chris Franjola]

A good time. A good time.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, go ahead.

[Chris Franjola]

Is this part of something? Is this a promotion for one of their. Yeah, anything. Because I feel like how did this happen?

[Heather McDonald]

I know how it happened.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay, tell me how.

[Heather McDonald]

So her manager is Cade Hudson. Not Kate Cade. Cade Hudson.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And he's been a big time agent manager. But he's young. He's like maybe he's 40.

[Chris Franjola]

He's in the bed with them, right?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. He is best friends with Nikki Paris Hilton.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

So he's in this world.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And he's the one who call who I saw when I met her.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, he was on his way. I was like Britney series like I'm on my way. So I think there is so funny because there were tiktoks and stuff saying this isn't real, it's AI. I'm like, no, it's real. She posted it.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And so they. Yeah, I think it was just like a fun thing. And they were like, sure, have her come over. And then she's like dancing with the kids, teaching them a dance move like. But she just, she just filmed the kids dancing like true and dream. And then she's doing the English accent and they're just laughing and being sweet and obviously it was very nice.

[Chris Franjola]

Whose house are they at?

[Heather McDonald]

Kim's house or Chloe's or Kim's.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

I Think maybe Chloe's. I'm not sure.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And so, yeah, I mean, I think it was real and I think they were just doing their Christian service and just being nice and enjoying her. But.

[Chris Franjola]

But how long does it last? Like, how long do you. Because I feel like Britney Spears. There's a. There's a window there.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, here's the other thing. At Kris Jenner's 70th birthday party, right. Lou Taylor was there and photographed with her. Lou Taylor was the manager that worked with Jamie Spears to get her into the conservatorship. Oh, so a lot of her fans are, like, any connection to Lou Taylor. Why would. Why would she be friends with them? But I don't think she is stringing things that far back in Hollywood. I think she was with Kate and he was like, want to go over to Kim and Chloe's? And she was like, sure. I don't think she was like, wait a minute. Kris Jenner invited Lou Taylor, who put me in a conservatorship for 13 years and tried to steal my money? No, I think she's not. I think she just focused on just the two of them and she had a fun time and she had some people. I think it's all fine.

[Chris Franjola]

All right, well, I'm happy.

[Heather McDonald]

But it was weird.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, it was weird. It was weird for. Yeah. I didn't even realize they were friendly, like, in the same world.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, they're not. I mean. Yeah, the thing is, they're not like, she is you. What you see, right? You're the one who originally brought up the Cheesecake Factory foyer. What you see. And I'm the one that brought up the brown sensible pumps, which are, hands down, her favorite dancing shoes. She also likes a suede boot with a bikini and a felt hat. But, like, that's what you get. Like, there is no difference from what you. So Right. You know, it's not the greatest conversation on earth or anything, but I'm sure it was fun for all of them. Okay.

[Chris Franjola]

I feel like there was a lot of, you know. So there got to a point probably 15 minutes in where Chloe and Kim were both like, all right, so anyway, like, are we. How much longer is this going to go on for? I mean, Britney's spinning around in the.

[Heather McDonald]

Corner and talking in any. Oh, my God, your vibrating. And they're like, yeah, this has been great.

[Chris Franjola]

I have to.

[Heather McDonald]

Do I have to study for the bar again?

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, something, Anything. Yeah, I gotta go.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. I mean, remember when I told you my night out? They were going to a Second party.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And you know me, I never say no to a party. But that night I was like, I'm good.

[Chris Franjola]

God bless you, I'm good.

[Heather McDonald]

It's a lot. It's like you're being nice and taking care of like, like a little kid, Right? So after a little bit, if it's not your kid, you're not that into it, you know, don't listen to everything.

[Chris Franjola]

Is it over?

[Heather McDonald]

So this girl is a doordash driver and, you know, which isn't an easy job. And kind of, you know, and she said, I delivered food and this man. And she films this guy, she goes into his house, she films him, like passed out on a couch, pants down, and somehow says like she was violated. Like she was violated by it.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then a lot of people, because the. We're like, wait a minute, it sounds like he was really wasted, made the call and passed out. Like he was passed out his house. Why were you going into his house? If someone doesn't answer the door, aren't you supposed to leave it at the door? And even if the door was open, why wouldn't you just leave it at the door?

[Chris Franjola]

That's what everybody does.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. And so anyway, she has been arrested for what?

[Chris Franjola]

What's the. What was she arrested for?

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, gosh, I'm sorry, I don't have all the facts, but she. For like door dash. Arrested, claimed assault and posted nude video of customers. I think violation of that breaking, breaking enery or trespassing and then violating his privacy. Because you can take video of anybody in a public space, Right. But you can't like, go in their home, film them when you're not invited with pants down.

[Chris Franjola]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. So I mean, how many times in your life, right, have you ordered a pizza? I remember definitely in college, we'd order the pizza and pass out and totally forget that you ordered it. You know, and what's great about doordash is you wake up and it's there and hopefully you can heat it up at 7am but like, you know, because you could pay on an app back then the pizza. Poor pizza guy would come, you wouldn't answer the door. And he doesn't get paid.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And doesn't get a tip.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And you're screwed.

[Chris Franjola]

And this guy, this guy's probably heating us up in the morning and going on tick tock. Wait a minute. That looks like me sitting there with his pants down. Oh, what a nightmare. I could think of nothing worse.

[Heather McDonald]

Nothing worse.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So he fought back and she's getting arrested all right. The Epstein stuff is. It's here, it's going crazy. And it just really is interesting that they did. I found this put someone. Heather Bates 111 put together an old episode and posted online of clips from the VH1. It's called this is the clip for VH1's the Fabulous Life of Billion Dollar Wall Street Ballers featuring Jeffrey Epstein. So they did a whole series of like Wall Street Ballers and Jeffrey Epstein was one.

[Chris Franjola]

He was on this VH1 show.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. And I saw the clip and it's like he doesn't only have a plane, he has a second plane. The guy's like, who needs a commercial airline for yourself? Everyone's like to traffic children doing a. And he has his own island and he's friends with and like they show Bill Clinton and all this other stuff. And then I. This other girl I saw and I'm sorry that I'm not giving credit, but it was like. It is crazy when you think like right from the start he was like getting in with rich people that were sick as him and then like blackballing because they're like, he got a job in an all girl school or private school.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Teaching math. He hadn't. He didn't even have a teaching degree. Because sometimes at private schools. Not now, but you don't even have to have the proper degrees. That's why people would be like public school is better than private. Because these people could just be like the mom that's like, oh, you need a kid. Her and teacher. Like which would happen in the past. But anyway, so he wasn't even properly, you know, certified to be a teacher. Then he makes friends with one of the parents at the school.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And this girl brought up like most really wealthy parents aren't like hanging out with their kids teacher. They'll get them a good gift or hope that they are on the good side. Then that guy gives him a job on Wall street again, no training, nothing. Then he meets the weird guy that owns all the Victoria's secrets and stuff.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And that's when Now.

[Chris Franjola]

Columbus, Ohio.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. And then that guy gives him like $500 million Wexler. Yes. And then they're off and running with the weird sick. That's gone on for, you know, went on for whatever 25 years. Yeah. This is all crazy.

[Chris Franjola]

I have to see this episode now of this VH1 show. Is it available to watch?

[Heather McDonald]

Probably. You could probably find on YouTube or tick tock.

[Chris Franjola]

That seems. Wow.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, and they just have like the talking heads. Like, I mean, come on, this is the dot, you know, like, and his friends are Woody Allen. Like, Holly's like. And it was like a bunch of weird watching. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

What now? What becomes of the. Where's the island these days?

[Heather McDonald]

Well, funny that you asked because.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

So I was hanging out with Luanda Seps.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, sure.

[Heather McDonald]

And her friend is married to the man who bought it.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, so somebody bought it.

[Heather McDonald]

Bought it for 60 million.

[Chris Franjola]

All right.

[Heather McDonald]

Which is a really good deal when you think that there's like houses in Beverly Hills for 60 million that are like a 3 and 2.

[Chris Franjola]

I know. So you just got a whole island with a, with a story to tell.

[Heather McDonald]

And you know, some people would think, oh my God, how no one will ever go there. Yeah, they will. Yeah, they will.

[Chris Franjola]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

They're. They're. Think of all the horrible things that have happened all over the world historically where people have died and if there's a nice hotel, Starbucks, you know, so it's gonna be a very, very expensive, high end hotel, you know, with limited numbers of rooms. Probably nobody can probably even stay there for less than like 3,500 a night.

[Chris Franjola]

I feel like it would still have a little bit of a really. I don't know if I would run to that.

[Heather McDonald]

You're not going to run to it. But I'm saying they won't have a problem filling it up. Yeah, you're not going to go on, you know, TripAdvisor or whatever hotels tonight and they're going to be like, we can't fill up this place.

[Chris Franjola]

They're going to have to rename it Pedophile Island. Is not the Pedophile Island. Ritz Carlton is not going to work.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, it's definitely going to be called something like, you know, Villa de la Rosa or something like it's just going to be something different. And you know, he's probably the owner of it wanting to. For this to get all out and be officially done however it ends up.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

I would, if I was him, I would be like, let this all get out. Let's let every go down, whoever really is in it or whatever. Because, you know, the files isn't. Can't just be the emails. I mean, we need to see the VHS tapes of the people getting blown or doing people that.

[Chris Franjola]

And they say they're not adults. They say they're on VHS tapes. Right?

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, they, yeah, they said they had it all, but you know, then it probably got stuck in a Tesla that then, you know, Disappears.

[Chris Franjola]

I mean, who knows? But you know, pretty fascinating.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Ghislaine, I heard was is moved to the Texas prison with Jen Shaw of Real House of Salt Lake City and Elizabeth Holmes. One drop.

[Chris Franjola]

Both in the same. Same. All in the same prison.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. Probably coming up with another. Coming up with their own reality show pitch podcast.

[Chris Franjola]

They got a podcast coming, no doubt.

[Heather McDonald]

No doubt. But anyway. Yeah, but I would think you'd want this to be done so then maybe like in like 20, 28 or 2030.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

It'll be like, oh, remember that? And people forget quick. If it all gets out and settled and done 2030, this, this place will.

[Chris Franjola]

Be.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, some 25 year old that just made his money doing, you know, whatever the thing is, then I'm just on space will be like, I never knew the history of Villa de la Rosa. They won't even know.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Because, you know, so who knows?

[Chris Franjola]

I'm shocked that that like so many and you know, all the people we hear were on the island or on the flights or whatever the case may be. I'm shocked that there was. I want to hear from people who said no, you know, like they got the invitation. I'm sure there are many. And we're like, no, I'm not interested in that. For whatever reason.

[Heather McDonald]

That's the email I want to see.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Thank you so much for your lovely invitation.

[Chris Franjola]

I appreciate it. Right, right.

[Heather McDonald]

Heather and Peter have three days free at the Marriott timeshare that weekend.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. Yes. They won't be able to any year. You dodged a bullet probably if you didn't.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

I don't know. It's all sad and crazy and whatever. I mean, I can't believe. But that's a world out there that I don't know, you know, it's not my world.

[Heather McDonald]

Thank God you don't know it.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, I mean, mean, I don't have any desire a bunch of 16 year old girls making fun of me. That's what they would do after it was over. You know, they get all catty making fun of. I don't like, I don't need that. You know what I mean? Like, all right, I got it. I have small calves. We don't need to harp on it.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh my God. Yeah. I don't know, it's. It's crazy.

[Chris Franjola]

But then, and then I read today there was something today that's one of the women, one of one of the survivors or whatever you want, she said that he, he has a lemon shaped dick.

[Heather McDonald]

Lemon shaped. And so I don't even know. I don't know. I know that Meyer lemons are all the rage. Is a Meyer lemon shape different than just a regular lemon?

[Chris Franjola]

I don't. I mean, either way, it's an odd shape.

[Heather McDonald]

Can I just say, I bought a bag of those little weird cuties, the cutie tangerines from. I'm not going to bag on the grocery store, but it's a. One of my favorites. That's big.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. Awful.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, really?

[Heather McDonald]

Every single one tasted like.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, no.

[Heather McDonald]

And I was like, what the. You know what? There does come a time in this life that unfortunately, you have to be spending more or be more discerning or go to the farmer's markets to actually get produce.

[Chris Franjola]

Well, this is what happens when ice takes all the good farmers. You get shitty fucking cuties.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, those cuties sucked balls. I was basically eating a dry piece of paper that was orange.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

It sucked so bad. I don't know if it was actually cuties, but it was the brand cuties. But it was the little oranges that normally are packed with flavor because it was like an orange and a tangerine. Had sex and then they were midgets. Little people. Remember the rage of the Tangello?

[Chris Franjola]

The Tangella.

[Heather McDonald]

Remember the Tangella where you, like, rip off the top? And I remember we were so into them in the 80s, and then they just, like, went away.

[Chris Franjola]

Really? I don't remember Tang. I don't even know what that is.

[Heather McDonald]

It looked like an orange with like. Like a little. Like a Audi belly button.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

You rip that part off and.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. It's just. How did we get into oranges?

[Chris Franjola]

A lot of dragon fruit up in my business. Dragon fruit. That's a new one. That's a new.

[Heather McDonald]

Everyone wants a drag.

[Chris Franjola]

I know. And it doesn't even taste good. It just looks cool. Yeah. On the shelf, but.

[Heather McDonald]

Looks like a poppy seed. It's dressing up like a piece of fruit.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, exactly. Tasteless. I don't like it.

[Heather McDonald]

Remember what they said? Like, there used to be, like, 800 variations of an apple, and now there's only, like, three.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, really?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

Was that what's. What? What's that? Who's to blame? George Washington? I don't know.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know.

[Chris Franjola]

Macintosh.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

Fuji. Granny. Granny Smith. Granny Smith.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Golden yellow.

[Chris Franjola]

All right. I already got four already rattled off.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, how many more do we need?

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

All right. Anyway.

[Chris Franjola]

Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter. What? Yeah. Isn't she apple?

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[Chris Franjola]

He got a honorary Oscar, the Governor's ball. I think it was the Governor's awards. And yeah, so he was given a lifetime achievement Oscar, more or less with Debbie Allen. The two of them received one and he made a. Yeah, I thought the speech was great. Now you saying people are comparing it to.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, what he says was just someone compared it to, ironically, his former wife. Nicole Kidman's commercial that went viral a couple years ago is like, come to the movies.

[Chris Franjola]

The AMC commercial. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Where we all sit together, you feel the music and you're all surrounded. And I don't think. I don't think there was that much of a comparison.

[Chris Franjola]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

But if you're writing an essay on what it's like to go to the movies, there's only so much you can say that are about why you should actually go to a movie theater, which is, he's a major movie star. He wants people to be reminded. So he kind of did that whole story that every actor does. When I used to go to the movie show with my dad, you know, it was 45 cents a picture.

[Chris Franjola]

Had to work. Yeah. And I had to go deliver newspapers to get a nickel to go to the moving pictures.

[Heather McDonald]

And I said, can I watch? I will say this, though. This is an old fashioned.

[Chris Franjola]

He was famous since he was like 18. You know, I'm like, when I just.

[Heather McDonald]

Remember what I could say at my. When I won my Oscars. I do have a story like that.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

When Greece came out, there was a less expensive movie theater. Small, like only like one movie.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

At Topanga and Ventura. And. And they were only playing Grease like during the days. And it was like, whatever, 225 to go see it. And these girls and I were like, we want to go again. And our parents were like, you've gone like 50 times. And so they're like, no, you have to do something. So we did. We went around the neighborhood and we washed cars because we said, we want to go see Greece again.

[Chris Franjola]

Wow.

[Heather McDonald]

So that could be my Oscar speech of just so people know how middle class I was.

[Chris Franjola]

So you washed cars to go. So you were able to earn the money to go.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, we were on the south side of Ventura.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Working hard.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Washing cars so that we could go on Ventura to the hood of Topanga Ventura, Woodland Hills, and watch the movie for 225.

[Chris Franjola]

I saw Greece like, ten times myself. I remember same thing. Lakeside Cinema. One theater.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

And it was. They used to give out a popcorn raffle before the movie. And the kids would go bizarre. Like, I gotta win that popcorn. It was in a big trash bag. And people were like, I gotta win that popcorn. And they would read off the numbers that you had on your ticket. And I remember kids, like, fighting to win that popcorn. And then my brother goes, you know, it's just the popcorn from yesterday. It's like the old popcorn from yesterday that he's raffling off. This guy won the theater, you know. Okay, kids, sit down, everybody. We're gonna raffle off the popcorn. And. And I felt like, well, finally he said, I told my brother, you're right. He's just over. It's stale popcorn, and we're killing ourselves for it.

[Heather McDonald]

We used to. Or my mom, if she was gonna take us all to the movies.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

There were so many of us.

[Chris Franjola]

So you need to give us an Oscar.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. We'd stop at 7:11 and she'd be like, get your candy here.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, good call.

[Heather McDonald]

And then they would, like. Then they would, like, smuggle it like I was a mule. Like, I was a hooker mule. They would be like, they're not going to check her. Because, like, they literally were checking, like, teenagers. Like, are you bringing candy? So they would, like, put it, like, around my body, you know, and then I'd have to just, like, hustle in because I was getting in there for free or almost free. And then I'd be like, what do you want, kids? Like, all the candy there. Anyway, so he basically just told a speech about that, and.

[Chris Franjola]

And Sydney Sweeney talked to him after. And they have, like, lip readers talking about what they talked about or something. I saw that.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. Probably. She was like, nobody went to go see my movie. Oh, but I wish they had. And.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, and I had said when I talked about it that it looked juicy, but I just don't think people go into the movie theater. But there looks. Oh, she's in a good one. Coming out. It's my kind of movie. Okay. It's with that. Who's the guy that just did SNL this weekend? You know what I mean? He and somebody else are like rich people. That's what I love. Sydney Sweeney, you know, gets the job, is like the housemaid, maybe not even a nanny, just literally cleaning the house. Because that's what I like.

[Chris Franjola]

I like it already.

[Heather McDonald]

And the scene I saw is the. The wife freaking out who stole my notes from the PTA or whatever. And it's like December something in theaters now that.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Especially if it's like a gloomy rainy day.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

I will go to the fancy theater, the Cinepopolopolis, whatever, over here. Must Lake. And I will get like a big Bloody mary at, like, 11. See, like, the 11 o' clock showing. And that I'm down to do. Like, that is. I need rich people on a rainy day murder and someone that's not their husband. That's what I want to see in a movie theater.

[Chris Franjola]

Say no more.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't want to see monsters. I don't want to see, you know, too much action.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. I love it. I still go. I have a problem, though, now because they, you know, you can order the food. They deliver the food, and the seats lay back. And I just think it's weird that I'm, like, eating chicken wings lying down. Like, what am I in 800 pound life? Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God. Amazing.

[Chris Franjola]

A little much.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. Somehow this morning when I was strolling, I came across some of the most disturbing video clips from. From podcasts.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, no. Like another podcast.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Other people's podcast. Yeah. Some of the most disturbing, disgusting stuff I've ever. I'm like, in the comments were like, how did this end up in my feed? I'm like, I agree. Do you want to hear the most disgusting? And then the least disgusting. I got to start with the most disgusting.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay. What do you mean? They're doing it on camera?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, it's different. It's different podcasts. Okay, okay. But this is. This is the business we're in is what I want to tell you.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, I don't need to be. Yeah, kick me when I'm down. Anyway, go on.

[Heather McDonald]

There's this pretty girl, okay. And she's talking to a guy, which even makes it more disturbing. You're having to tell, like, another man who's the host.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, and he's. And she's like, so please, viewer discretion advice. I have to tell you this. But she says, so the girl.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, no.

[Heather McDonald]

The girl took a dump in an ice cube tray. And the Guy pissed in it.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

So it made.

[Chris Franjola]

And they froze it.

[Heather McDonald]

So it made cubes.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, Pee pe cubes.

[Heather McDonald]

They. She then had to put it up her butt.

[Chris Franjola]

Who did?

[Heather McDonald]

The pretty girl.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Put it up her butt.

[Chris Franjola]

The cube. The ice cube.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And then he penetrated her, which then I guess would sort of melt it.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, sure.

[Heather McDonald]

And then his girlfriend.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay, I could have our.

[Heather McDonald]

Had to slurp it out.

[Chris Franjola]

And this is.

[Heather McDonald]

She. She's doing this as a job, and she chose to go on a podcast for free and tell about it. But is she like, this needs to be. First of all, you need to die with this story.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And second of all, like, save it for your own podcast, dum dum. Like, what are you doing? Like, what? You're just, like, telling that story. But she talked about it. Like, so I went on a date with a guy, and, you know, we had a Chinese chicken salad, and then he asked us to split the bill. And I'm like, red flag. That's the way she told it.

[Chris Franjola]

And she's on someone's podcast.

[Heather McDonald]

She's a guest.

[Chris Franjola]

Is it. But is the podcast sexual in. In nature? What? Why would you tell that story?

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. I just. I just couldn't believe it.

[Chris Franjola]

That's shocking.

[Heather McDonald]

And I just was like, I can't even believe that this is. And then, you know, people were just like, what world do we live in? Like, why. And why are you talking about it? Like, why is there nothing, like, everybody? And it just. Just the way that it works is, you know, it just keeps. It gets fed to you, and you're like, oh, my God.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, I.

[Heather McDonald]

But that's what they're doing. I had. I mean, that is the sickest, grossest stuff I have ever heard. That makes the whole Dubai laying under a coffee table.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

With. That's glass. That's all that. That you have to do to go on a yacht. Like that. This sounds worse.

[Chris Franjola]

That's what you have to do to get on a yacht.

[Heather McDonald]

Obviously, the person who has it worse is not the girl that can. It got to be in the podcast.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. Who has it the worst?

[Heather McDonald]

The girlfriend of the guy.

[Chris Franjola]

What does she have? She's the one.

[Heather McDonald]

She's the one had to slurp it out.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, no.

[Heather McDonald]

And she had to go get the tray out and everything and make the cubes.

[Chris Franjola]

And if this guy has, like, a dinner party or something. No ice in my drink. You know what? I just. I'll. I'll drink it warm.

[Heather McDonald]

I wonder if they did, like, just like, an Average old fashioned ice cube tray. Or they're doing like the fancy like ball ones for like Christmas at William Sonoma. There's like those big ball squares.

[Chris Franjola]

It'll go up your ass easier.

[Heather McDonald]

No, it has to be the little ones.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, I think so.

[Heather McDonald]

Think about it. They can't do a big like ball one for like a. A tequila or like a fancy whiskey drink. No.

[Chris Franjola]

Best topic we've ever done. I.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, so then this one is maybe not as more. There's another one.

[Chris Franjola]

The same person.

[Heather McDonald]

No, this guy Matt. For. Wait, Matt. Fire, Rec. Co. Whatever.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

He's commenting on this girl.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, God.

[Heather McDonald]

So he let me know what was going on.

[Chris Franjola]

Gotcha.

[Heather McDonald]

And she is an influencer. Podcaster. Whatever.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Looks like she's, you know, under 30.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And she's talking to her girlfriend and she's. People are going crazy because she did a podcast and cut a clip of it or maybe someone else did, where she's like, I had a real dry spell. So then I entered my ho. My whole phase, like after the year of dryness or whatever and all. And these guys want to use condoms. What the. And the girl's like, I know. No, I'm not. Not using a condom. Like, enough with the condom agenda.

[Chris Franjola]

Whoa.

[Heather McDonald]

What?

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And she was. Because first of all, it ruins the mood. So I'm like, dude, now you're in the mood because you're looking for a condom.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And he's like, well, I'm just trying to be safe. Oh, now you're saying I'm gonna give you a disease. You like, what? These guys cannot win. If you approach them at a bar, they're like, you're a creeper if you, if they agree to have sex with you. And then you're like, could we use a condom? So, like, we don't give each other disease or you don't have my baby. And she's like, no. And she goes, I. If she goes. And then she doubles down on it and says, if I did a group check with 16 girls and said, who doesn't use condoms and hates condoms? All 16 would say, we all do.

[Chris Franjola]

Really?

[Heather McDonald]

So girls are date. They're getting IUDs okay. Or on the pill.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And going condomless.

[Chris Franjola]

I didn't know that. That's a. That's a trend I haven't heard about. But yeah, I'm not on that scene anymore.

[Heather McDonald]

Thank God.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. Maybe I don't want you to be my daughter in law. Like, what are you talking about like, no. Every guy. This is the movement that's going to now happen, which I've said men that have a few bucks or even if you don't. Okay, same thing. Girls, if you got the money, freeze your eggs, okay?

[Chris Franjola]

Freeze your eggs.

[Heather McDonald]

So you're not having babies because you're feeling the pressure. You can have when you can.

[Chris Franjola]

Got it?

[Heather McDonald]

Guys, don't think it's a terrible idea to freeze your sperm and get a vasectomy, because how can you protect yourself?

[Chris Franjola]

Okay. Do you recommend that as soon as.

[Heather McDonald]

Girls are saying you're a dick for wanting to wear a condom? I guess when that's really the case and they're. And you can't get laid because you want to wear a condom, then you better. Yeah, you better protect yourself. There's a lot of people getting secret vasectomies. I always predicted that George Clooney had one back in 2008. I predicted it. Chelsea, lately, because I said, how has nobody gotten knocked up with his baby?

[Chris Franjola]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

But then they had the twins with them all, and I think they did go through some type of ivf, so that would make sense, right? Maybe he put his sperm away, got the secret vasectomy until he was ready. Admit, like, the perfect woman.

[Chris Franjola]

All right.

[Heather McDonald]

But anyway, meanwhile, lavender marriage on the rise. A lavender marriage.

[Chris Franjola]

I don't know. You told me what that was before.

[Heather McDonald]

It is when a. We'll just do it in the combination of this. It's a gay man, okay? He knows he's gay.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

He's out gay. This is for today. In the past, when people couldn't be out in gay. Sometimes a lesbian. A gay would be like, let's marry. Let's have kids.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay?

[Heather McDonald]

But we know we're not really sexual with each other.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And they would secretly have this thing. Or maybe the woman would find out later that her husband was really gay, but just be like, it's fine now that everybody's so out in the open telling everybody what they are when they're on a podcast at nine.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, we're really out in the open.

[Heather McDonald]

From what then they have said, like, they still want to have a partnership, but they would love. Women would love to have the partnership with their gay best friend where they just. There's respect and there's love and there's partnership, and maybe there's raising kids, maybe there's not. But they. There is no expectation of sex. And, you know, and he can go off and have his sexual relationship, but he doesn't want a life partnership with a man. But it's not a secret. And she can do whatever she wants. But then she still has a husband. They have the write off, they have a home, they have the dual income. They love to do everything together. And this guy, it's. What is his name? It's MC Marty Fly.

[Chris Franjola]

Fly.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, it's. It's McMarty Fly. He is starting an app for people looking for lavender marriages.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, wow.

[Heather McDonald]

Or looking for a lavender relationship. Okay, so gay men with straight women, that there's no secrets, there's no pretending, there's no trying to turn someone's nice.

[Chris Franjola]

For everybody, you know, involved.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, it's, it's hard out there.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Heather McDonald]

There's apps for everything. Okay.

[Chris Franjola]

So I'd rather do that than eat a, eat an ice cube. Truly.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, if that's what you have to do and you have to go to a podcast and talk about it.

[Chris Franjola]

Better be in a lavender relationship.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, there was a time where it was like all secret. I mean, there's there, you know that there's like 75 year old, well dressed women right now ordering a McCarthy salad at the Beverly Hills Hotel that had to do some sick shit to get there.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But we don't know about it because they didn't have a podcast in 1982. Instead they slept their way around, got divorced twice, and now can enjoy their life. And everyone just thinks they're a classy old lady. They're not. They were too.

[Chris Franjola]

I love it. Good. I hope so.

[Heather McDonald]

This guy brought up the funniest thing. Zachary Will. Okay, he's on TikTok out gay guy. He brought out this little thing where he talked about what's going on in the gay bars and clubs. I had mentioned that I saw a couple guys say on TikTok, like, we don't like having the bachelorette parties at our gay bars. We are done with the girls. Yeah, we are done with the girls. Coming. It's too much. You're ruining our fun. So he did this presentation. It was literally where he had like little like different colored chips. And he's like, first there were, here's the green, here's the green chips or whatever. These were all the gay guys. They started to bring in their girlfriend, their straight girlfriends. Oh, this is fun. Here's a few blue girlfriends or whatever. And then those girls were having so much fun. It was almost like half and half.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But then they brought a couple of their straight friends, straight boyfriends. And then those boyfriends told all the straight guys, this is where it's at. Because the girls are happy. They're feeling safe.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And all these other guys aren't hitting on them. So then it becomes almost like a straight club. And then the gay guys are like, it, let's go. Let's find another place.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And. And then. And then if they fight to try to have it back, whatever, sometimes the whole business will just close then.

[Chris Franjola]

Really?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. And so people in the comments were like, this is so true. And then people were writing. The way to keep this is go back to showing gay porn on the screens.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

That's how you keep that. That'll keep the streets out.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. Yeah. Nobody wants to see that if you're straight. I mean, you know, some people want to see it. I'm not saying that it's not for.

[Heather McDonald]

Everybody, but, you know, I do think. I do think this era needs to stop. I think straights need to, you know, talk to each other at a bar and dance and party.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Have your bachelorette parties at. Go to a sports bar, meet some guys like that actually want to be with women and let the gays have their fun.

[Chris Franjola]

They go to Nashville.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. They should have their.

[Chris Franjola]

Where all the bachelorettes go.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, it used to be gay men could, you know, like, just have sex with anyone, be rich, run the world, be childless their whole life.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Then they went this whole other route. Now I think they're like, wait a minute.

[Chris Franjola]

Let's go back to the good times.

[Heather McDonald]

Let's go back to being single and gay.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, it's interesting.

[Chris Franjola]

It is interesting.

[Heather McDonald]

This was a crazy commercial I saw about this old commercial. Nerd Life, 1985 found this old commercial. This guy is like, they're not attractive people. And it must be like 1982.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And this girl's like, ah, do you got a little for me? And then he brings out a little thing of Coke.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And the commercial is. You can buy. They call it sink Coke. Like sin. Oh. Since Coke. Is that a Coke? You can. You could go to write a PO box and send them 9.99, and they would give you a little vial of fake coke.

[Chris Franjola]

Flour, I think they call it, you know, or salt or whatever.

[Heather McDonald]

And so the. And then the girls would think they were like. That you were like, you know, like a rich guy in the 80s that was like giving them coke and that would turn them on, but you couldn't afford coke.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, my God. That was a real thing.

[Heather McDonald]

That's a real thing. I mean, it didn't have Fentanyl in it. Thank God.

[Chris Franjola]

But those were the days. Those were the days.

[Heather McDonald]

Those were the days. Okay, okay. Megan Trainor is defending her look. She has lost a lot of weight. She looks completely different. Her face, her hair. But she also said, you know, when I. And. And people that are curvy are like, you've abandoned us, girls. You were the. Your anthem was like, it's all about that bait. Say, I'm not no size two. And now she's a size two. And she's like, yeah. First of all, I wrote that when I was 19.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And I actually have been on a fitness journey for, like, a decade. Like, I realized, you know, I got my diabetes. I got all these things checked. I realized, like, if I'm gonna go on tour, like, I have to be more physically fit to dance around. And, of course, you know, Ozempic makes this much more attainable and easier to stick with and. But, you know, people are just like, you look so different. Yeah, she does. I mean, that's what.

[Chris Franjola]

Well, it's obviously more the weight loss. I feel like she's gotten a nose job or something else. Right. There seems to be a little more to it than just.

[Heather McDonald]

I just don't know that I ever really knew what Meghan Traitor looked like that much. Like.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Because I'm like, I wouldn't know who this person is. I think the blonde, weird, heavy bangs are like, it looks like Laura Ingalls. Remember Laura Ingalls? Yeah, it looks weird. It looks like weird doll hair. But, you know, I don't know. It was crazy. Everybody was so skinny at Bravo Con.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, from like, GLP1s or.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, they all look good.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Having a flat stomach looks better than. Better than having a pooch. Sorry.

[Chris Franjola]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I had a little. I had a little pooch in my little red dress when I was dancing around doing my show. I'm like, well, you know, I ate like a pig. I haven't been on the shots, so it's like, yeah, that's what I looked like. But I had a good time.

[Chris Franjola]

That's the important thing.

[Heather McDonald]

But I think they liked it because they work these girls so hard at Bravicon, they don't have time to eat anyway.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So, you know, they all were just looking so skinny. But you said you saw some skinnies out at dinner.

[Chris Franjola]

I was out at the dinner last night I went to. Yeah. And it was. All the celebrities were out at this restaurant I went to.

[Heather McDonald]

What's the name of it?

[Chris Franjola]

And a jack tie. It's the. All the rage.

[Heather McDonald]

Where is it?

[Chris Franjola]

On Ventura Boulevard. In. In Sherman Oaks.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, and Sherman Oaks.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, I think I've heard of it. Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

What did you get?

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, we had a whole thing, you know. You bought a bunch of stuff.

[Heather McDonald]

I know what to say. What's the yummy stuff?

[Chris Franjola]

They had like pad Thai was in Vegas. These. They're famous for, like their fried chicken, which sounds weird, but they are. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And was it amazing?

[Chris Franjola]

It was amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything was great. It's great. It's a great place. But I saw Jennifer Lawrence was there. Owen Wilson was there. Not together, you know, different. It was pretty wild. And then we were talking and I was saying at Jennifer Lawrence just had a movie that bombed as well. What was hers about a woman going through postpartum depression or something. It's Baron, a very dark movie. And you know, which I got Bondo. Well, of course. I mean, who's going to see that in the theaters? You know what I mean?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

Not saying it's a bad movie, but it doesn't seem like somebody wants to go to see that anyway. I know. I was saying that I feel like her star has been usurped a little bit by Sydney Sweeney. Become like the new it girl. Same type of.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes roles.

[Chris Franjola]

You know, if you got a romantic comedy now you want to do a goofy. Have a fun, you're gonna give it to her before you give the Jennifer Lawrence.

[Heather McDonald]

I have to say, I never understood the Jennifer Lawrence hype. And I think I do think there's something that was sinister that skyrocketed her.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, really?

[Heather McDonald]

I think all those.

[Chris Franjola]

I mean, I've heard that story, of course, but I. Sure. I also think she's a good actress. I think she's a good actress.

[Heather McDonald]

I think she is good. But I remember there was the one movie that she played the wife, not the mistress.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

The hustler or something. The hustle.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And everyone's like, oh, my God, this is so amazing. Amazing. And she had had her hair like up. And she was like dancing around in this scene and they're like. And everyone was like, I've never seen anything like this. And I was like. And I just thought she was miscast because she.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Not only was she significantly younger than the role, I believe that what it was written for.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

But she looks young. Like she had a pudding face.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So I was just like. This was. Cassie was so weird.

[Chris Franjola]

And I'll say this looks good in person.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

I think she taller than I thought, thinner than I thought Good looking.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. I mean, I do think she's good looking. I do think she's talented. But it was one of those things that, like, you know, where people. She was like the first one at the time. Now everyone is like genuine. Is doing prat falls and stuff to act like they're normal. But she actually had like a prat fall going up to get her Oscar.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And you know, but I mean. And she was one of those girls that was really good, like with the male talk show hosts and stuff.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I remember one time Amy Schumer had such a funny sketch where. When she had her sketch show where she was being like a young girl or, you know, with the creepy talk show host.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, that's fun.

[Heather McDonald]

And how it was just so sexual. Like every interview was just so, so. I mean, some of those David Letterman ones. You ever see that one where he was like eating Jennifer Aniston's hair?

[Chris Franjola]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

And he was like, let me just. And he's coming around like Letterman. Yes.

[Chris Franjola]

Really?

[Heather McDonald]

Look it up. It was so. There's just so many weird things that now we just like, oh, weird.

[Chris Franjola]

It wasn't crazy. Watch them now. Like what? Yeah, it's pretty. Pretty nuts at different times, you know.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, this is weird and sad. These are these two twins that. Two, I always say two twins. They're twins and they. Alice and Ellen Kessler and they were in Germany. They left post World War II in N. Like 1952 and came here and were like dancer performers. They were like on the Lawrence Welk shows and all these things. They're like the first late, like first dancers to like show their bare legs on tv and you know, they knew all like the Frank Sinatra people and everything. And they went back to Germany because they have like, assisted suicide is like, legal.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And they both talk to them to talk to the people got their. Their contract together, met with the lawyers and ended their life on the same day at like 89.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

And so then a lot of comments are like, why would you do that? Like, you could live like so much longer, whatever. And then, you know, a lot of people, it's a very controversial subject.

[Chris Franjola]

Were they sick? I mean, a lot of times when people do that, they have an illness that they're.

[Heather McDonald]

It didn't.

[Chris Franjola]

They're insane of some kind.

[Heather McDonald]

It didn't say. It was just kind of like, I don't know. I think they maybe just were like, well, let's not go to 90. But we want to go together. We would never want to live without each other. So then they just did it.

[Chris Franjola]

All right.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, it's like. Yeah, I don't, like. Like, I think it's so weird. But anyway, this is crazy. This woman, 62. So she and her husband. She was a nurse. The husband was a pilot. They had all these kids. Then as she got older, they, you know, would have to do, like, in vitro, whatever. But she was still giving birth. And then she had her last kid, like, at 62. So if the egg is not. Egg was not hers. But she was healthy enough to give birth, so she still had some embryos.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

She went behind her husband's back and signed his consent and put the embryos in another woman or two different women, I think two different women. And. And then. And then he was, like, furious. And since she. I did not want to have a 14th and a 15th kid. I didn't even want the 13th. Like, this is crazy. Chills in New York, 62. So then they. They realized that she was. That there was fraud. So now she doesn't even have the kids, and she's trying to get them back, and they're with the foster parents. And I'm like, who at, like, 65 is trying to have more kids? Like, this was. This is so creepy. This is like.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Remember the other girl? The octoma?

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But she had them all at once.

[Chris Franjola]

And the kids turned out to be kind of normal.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. They're all fine.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

They're like 16 now.

[Chris Franjola]

I know.

[Heather McDonald]

And she. Are they 16?

[Chris Franjola]

Close to it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And she raised them all. I mean, she carried them all, but people need to, like, slow down, like, with this fucking weird thing Now. This was sad. Kathy Hilton and Sutton Strack, while they were at BravoCon, both of their homes.

[Chris Franjola]

Were broken into here in Los Angeles.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, no.

[Heather McDonald]

So Sutton's was in the daytime.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And the dog walker came back from walking the dog and saw that a window was broken and called the police. And apparently, like, all of her handbags and jewelry and she has a lot of nice things was taken. And. But her house is very publicly seen on the show.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Remember that how Kris Jenner, in the beginning, they'd show that house, and then people realized that wasn't the house.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, they really kind of need to do that for these girls, I think. But, I mean, you can find anyone's address now, unfortunately. And she's not in a gated community or anything like that, so. And she's. And even Dorit said she lives on a main road, and it is. It's a little Bit of a busy street. I've been there, but very nice house. So that's really sad. And then Kathy Hilton was gone, and Rick Hilton called the police at 10 at night because there were intruders in the house.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

And they. Then they left. So I don't know if they got anything but, like, terrifying because these people knew that they were at the Bravo Con.

[Chris Franjola]

Really had him. I feel. I don't feel like people who are burglarizing homes are up on the Bravo Con schedule, but maybe that's how the.

[Heather McDonald]

Brink the Bling Ring got started, is they would follow like Paris and everybody, and they would be posting in real time, tweeting in real time. Oh, I'm going to this event. And then they, like, live.

[Chris Franjola]

They do it to a lot of athletes when they're in, like the World Series and the super bowl or something. You know, they're not home. And then, you know, their family will be there. They're all watching them in the World Series and they do that too, I've heard.

[Heather McDonald]

Wow.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

We are back with our next guest of the show. His name is Chris Turkey Joel. Oh, Tom. Turkey Tom.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Tom the turkey. Getting all ready for Thanksgiving.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Chris, you are killing it in this outfit. I love it.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. I. I would like to tell everybody that I invest in my juicy group appearances.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God. You really.

[Chris Franjola]

$25 on Amazon. So I was excited to bring it over and discuss Thanksgiving with you.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. Well, what are you going to make appearance as the turkey during your Thanksgiving?

[Chris Franjola]

I thought about it, but we go over to my wife's family's house and I don't think they would get the joke at all. I think they would think that, oh, Chris, is time to put him in a home or something. I don't think they would get it. So I did think about it. It. But yeah, so it's just for this.

[Heather McDonald]

But your daughter loves it.

[Chris Franjola]

She loves it. Yeah. She's been wearing it around the house and it's kind of fun. So we're all having fun. Everyone's having fun.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, when you're getting dressed, you told me, and I like this one, that your daughter. There's a billboard.

[Chris Franjola]

It's a billboard throughout Los Angeles about a woman who has insurance, sells insurance.

[Heather McDonald]

And I knew exactly who you meant. It's called Adriana's insurance.

[Chris Franjola]

Adriana's Insurance.

[Heather McDonald]

And she's pretty. First of all, I think she's Persian.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But people always would ask me back in the day if I had any Persian in me or whatever. So I Think she's very attractive and clearly very successful.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So if I myself can't be on buses and stuff, at least I look like a lady that is on one.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. So every time we pass it, my daughter goes, look, Heather McDonald's billboard. And I'm always. At one point, I thought you really did have a. I was like, maybe she does have a billboard. And then she pointed it out. I'm like, that's not Heather. Anyway, Want you to know that.

[Heather McDonald]

So. Okay. So do you bring a dish or anything?

[Chris Franjola]

We do. We do an apple pie that we bring. We're kind of famous for it, so we make a whole day out of it.

[Heather McDonald]

What kind of apples? Since we spoke about apple, what kind of apples do you buy?

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, geez, I don't know. I don't know what apples. Your green ones, I think.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, you do the green. So it's a little soury.

[Chris Franjola]

But we do like a little machine that we have that takes all the skin off the apple. That's the key. Gotta make sure all the skin's off the apple. Because if you bite into any skin while you're eating apple pie, it ruins the apple pie. It's a. There's a whole process to it. I just. I'm like, you do the crust from.

[Heather McDonald]

Scratch or you buy the scratch?

[Chris Franjola]

All scratch. I don't do anything. I just.

[Heather McDonald]

She does how to do it. Oh, that's good.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Do you do any nuts or crazy crumble or anything with it?

[Chris Franjola]

No, like a. What do they call it? A lattice, you know. Oh, the top.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, how you take.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do that.

[Heather McDonald]

That is impressive.

[Chris Franjola]

I know. Thank you. Where are you heading for Thanksgiving?

[Heather McDonald]

Here.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, you're staying?

[Heather McDonald]

We're having Thanksgiving. We're hosting it this year.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, people are coming over.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I've done. I've always have people I've been doing it for.

[Chris Franjola]

But at this house.

[Heather McDonald]

And this will be the first time at this house.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And, you know, I don't know. I hope it goes well.

[Chris Franjola]

Do you want me to lend my costume to Peter? Yeah. That'll be fun. So you gotta do all the cooking and everything.

[Heather McDonald]

We'll see. Yeah, I. I wanted to get the sides brought in.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

He does not.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And we just haven't talked about it since.

[Chris Franjola]

Do you have any, like, Thanksgiving? Do you watch them, like Macy's Day Parade? Have you read anything about that? All the people who are going to be on it, all the new floats or.

[Heather McDonald]

Why? What's exciting?

[Chris Franjola]

You know, just. Just exciting. A couple New floats.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, we'll probably just. I told people, you know, I hate that it gets dark so early, so I like having more like an afternoon.

[Chris Franjola]

Martha Stewart just said 2 o'. Clock. 2 o' clock is the time you need to be eating dinner to need to be sitting down eating dinner at 2 o' clock on the Thanksgiving. That's what Martha Stewart just said.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, okay. I think too slightly a little early.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

But I like the idea of like telling everyone to get there by one.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Because that means they'll get there by two.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So I think we're. Yeah. Like 12, one. Whatever. I. Yeah, I'd like to. We do this. This Thanksgiving circle to say what we're thankful for.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And what are you thankful for this year?

[Chris Franjola]

If you had to pick one thing.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I'm thankful for living here.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, it's nice.

[Heather McDonald]

I love my.

[Chris Franjola]

Should be.

[Heather McDonald]

I love my new neighborhood and thankful that, you know, all the kids are doing great and my nieces and nephews and cousins and that's probably what I'll say. It's just, I'm happy that everybody's, like, thriving. I'll tell you what I'm not happy about.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, yeah. Well, that's probably more fun.

[Heather McDonald]

It was something that I somewhat predicted last week.

[Chris Franjola]

Week. Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

When I talked about BravoCon and I said, well, I'm not. I don't know that I'll actually be going to the convention. Which I did not. I go, but it's difficult. And I said, please, audience, you know, please juicy Coopers that are going to Bravicon, give the girls and the guys and the Bravo slowly a little bit of grace. If you run into them and they're rushing off somewhere else and, you know, because they, they have set times where you pay to take photos with them.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

They treat them like Disney characters, characters. And then there's times where you might see them in an elevator, have them walking to, you know, and just give them some grace.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, sure enough, I'm starting to watch all the stuff come out. And I saw one person criticize that a housewife was wearing Lululemons and a jean jacket in the lobby of her hotel.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, is that bad?

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. Why can't she. Like, it's her hotel. Like, if she's not on stage at. On stage or right at the Bravo Con, why can't she walk around and get a coffee? It's her hotel lobby. Like, this is like the fact that these people thought that you were supposed to be on literally every Second of every day. Like, there is no celebrity that is seen for three days where you have. Are if you don't give them all access to you still every second. So, anyway, I'm at the MGM grand, where my show is. I am not part of Bravicon. I am not being whisked off in a golf cart and. But I said, look, you know, I'm gonna do my best to say hi to everybody. I did get stopped by many people. I did my main group. But throughout the four days, I saw people. Heather, we saw your show photo. No. Sunglasses, ugly. I took a photo with everybody. So this gets brought to my attention that this person.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, no.

[Heather McDonald]

Wants to share what a. I was. Oh, I'm not going to say her name.

[Chris Franjola]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

But she said. Hold on. Oh, well, anyway, she. She mentioned. I'll summarize it, that she saw me at the MGM grand and I was so rude to her in the elevator. Oh, well, in the elevator, when she said hi.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Now, I don't remember that at all. I never remember being in an elevator with the Juicy scooper. I do remember people being like, hi, Heather. And sometimes when people don't ask for a photo, I think that they, Like. There's been times where people don't ask for a photo. And I've had a friend that's like, want a photo? And they're like, no.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So, like, I don't go, let's get a photo unless you're asking. Sometimes I do, but I. So I think when they're just like, hey, Heather. I think that they aren't looking for more.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. So anyway, she said, you know, at least a hand wave or a smile would have been nice. I didn't stop. I didn't stop to chat. I was exiting the elevator and she was getting on, and I said, hey, Heather. And she just totally ignored me.

[Chris Franjola]

Wow.

[Heather McDonald]

So there's a group of people coming off the elevator and I'm getting on.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I somehow missed. Hey, Heather. I have a joke in my act from, like, whatever, eight years ago where I thought the Starbucks person was calling me Heather, but they were saying hi there. So I don't know if she. I could have thought that this girl was saying hi there to, like, someone behind me.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm not walking around expecting to be recognized. I didn't. I had a very easy time walking around MGM Grand.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Lots of people didn't know who the fuck I was. Whatever. That was fine.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So, I mean, they asked, do you want security? I don't know. I Just want it just for the night. Just to go to the nightclub. That's all I want. I don't need it walking around to get coffee the day after. Before. Like, I'm not that. So anyway, I just wrote her back on. Oh, you did? Yeah, because.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, it.

[Heather McDonald]

No, it bothered me. Like, because. And. And throughout the. The thing.

[Chris Franjola]

You're not gonna say this during the thankful speech at the foot of family, but during.

[Heather McDonald]

During this little post, some people said, I find this hard to believe. I met her. She's lovely. You know, other people I personally know, I saw their name in there being like, what are you talking about? Like, yeah. And then some were like, oh, I've heard she's a bitch, and this and that. And I'm like, yeah. I don't know what to say. So then I just said, hi. Her name. I remember taking lots of pics with Juicy scoopers throughout my four nights at mgm. My show was Friday. All day I was running around preparing. We were up and out of. In and out of elevators all day. If you said hi to an elevator and I was running to my room, I still would have said hi back. And I never say no to a photo. So anyway, when do you want to meet up?

[Chris Franjola]

Ah, that's great. Grade. See, maybe she can come over for Thanksgiving.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, that.

[Chris Franjola]

I think that's what they want to hear for Thanksgiving.

[Heather McDonald]

And then probably they'd be like, I got invited to Heather's for Thanksgiving. And you know, after six hours, she was like, well, thanks for coming. And I'm like, really?

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

I thought we'd at least go to the seventh hour. Like, yeah, some people, you just cannot win.

[Chris Franjola]

It is interesting. You know, I'm one of the most famous turkeys in the world. Everybody knows.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Chris Franjola]

And, yeah, I have to take a lot of pictures as well.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm sure you do.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

What, they don't care that you're gonna be killed?

[Chris Franjola]

No, nobody. They just sit and eat me, and nobody seems to care. They. It's, it's. It's interesting that they never think that they might be annoying. You know what I mean?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

You ever think that people like, oh, that guy was an asshole, that celebrity or whoever. Heather was a bitch. And I'm like, but maybe you were annoying. You know what I mean? A lot of times that's the case. Drunk or whatever, you know, I'm not saying this person again.

[Heather McDonald]

It wasn't my meet and greet that I was rude at.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

It was not even the day of the show. And I'm getting In and out of the elevator of a whole different hotel. I'm not at the convention center. I'm not getting paid by Bravo Con. And this other girl I just saw told a long story of how she met one of the stars of the valley and wanted to tag along to the next party. And the girl's like, well, why don't you stay here? And we're gonna come back here anyway because it's our hotel. Like, yeah. People that weren't staying at this hotel, they're all staying at the four seasons, kept going there breakfast, lunch, and dinner to try to see them.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And get their photos. So, like, they never even had a break to, like, be off at their hotel.

[Chris Franjola]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Without them doing to saying they're rude. And then. And so then. Then this girl goes, I mean, how rude? I'm like, why would they want you to, like, get in the car with them? They just met you.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

She was like, hey, we'll come back and see you guys. Like, she was being cool. And then the girl's like. And she was real drunk. Oh, why? You're not allowed to be drunk? No, this other girl from the valley. But I'm like, you're not allowed to get drunk after you're working for three days? Like, $2.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So it's midnight in Vegas. I saw Heather, and she was drunk. I would hope I'd be drunk. Midnight in Vegas. What the are you doing at midnight in Vegas? Like, I just am. Like, I knew it would happen. I predicted it. That's why I said it last year week. And just look up who was rude on Tik Tok. And all these people are saying, oh, this person was nice, and this person, you know, was distracted or didn't look me in the eye. I'm like, my God.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, you want to? Whatever.

[Heather McDonald]

So I know it's hard with you as a turkey.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. I mean, thank you for bringing that up again. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Because I think that, you know, there's been movements to get away from turkey on Thanksgiving, but then by doing that, it really lowers your fame. So when you talk to other turkeys, what do you think? Do you think we stick with your bird? Do we switch to chicken? Do we go, like, a vegan thing?

[Chris Franjola]

I believe, as a turkey, that we should continue with turkey. It's put us on the map. We've become more famous than we've ever been for many years. We were just walking around as just a big, ugly bird, and now everyone loves us with a little gravy. You were talking earlier about a Woman who was stuffed with a poo poo pee pee cube up her ass. And as a guy who's been stuffed pretty much every year, I would like to say that I feel for that woman and I hope that she gets the help she needs.

[Heather McDonald]

Now, that's another controversial thing that's happened over the years with turkeys.

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Heather McDonald]

My mom would make the most delicious stuffing and stuff it in the turkey.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And then about 20 years ago, right there became another propaganda that media said, you cannot put the stuffing in the turkey, saying that that is not okay and that you'll get salmonella, whatever, poisoning. Yeah, but I never had a. I never got salmonella. And the stuffing has never been as yummy as when my mom shoved it up you. Yes, well, so do you think it's okay to go back to shoving the stuffing in the turkey?

[Chris Franjola]

Yes, I believe you can. I believe, you know, salmonella risk it all. I think you should risk it because it feels good.

[Heather McDonald]

It's like. It's like. It's like breast implants. There was a time where they. They said silicon, then they said, no, you need saline. And then they said, actually, silicon's fine. Yeah, go back to silicone. So one more thing about the turkey.

[Chris Franjola]

My tits are real. I just want everyone to know that. I mean, I feel like this is an exclusive interview. Not a lot of people get me. I don't do a lot of talk shows. I'm like, thanks for that. Like Daniel Day Lewis, you know, thanks.

[Heather McDonald]

For not going to Nick. Val first. I just say that I'm very private. Another question.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Why is it that, you know, it's so fun to cook a turkey, but we only do it at Thanksgiving? I'm always like, why don't I do this, like, two months from now and have real turkey again?

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, that's true. You get turkey throughout the year, whether it be turkey burgers or sliced turkey, but you don't.

[Heather McDonald]

Nobody cook a turkey. Nobody cooks a turkey themselves.

[Chris Franjola]

I encourage more of it. I encourage turkey for not only Thanksgiving. I encourage it for Christmas as well.

[Heather McDonald]

I like turkey.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. And many of the Valentine's Day. Cook a turkey for your lover.

[Heather McDonald]

What?

[Chris Franjola]

And on and on.

[Heather McDonald]

What sides do you think really are staples and ones that have, like, tried to weasel their way into the table that you don't think should be there?

[Chris Franjola]

Well, I believe a lot of number one side, of course, is stuffing. I believe mashed potatoes. Right. Number two. And I don't know if you consider gravy aside or something.

[Heather McDonald]

We always need gravy.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, of course you need gravy. And then you get the other ones where it's like a green bean salad with the French onion, you know, the crispy onions on top.

[Heather McDonald]

My mom only did it the can way. Not until I married Peter did I even know that green beans were actually non canned. That you could get a real green bean at the store.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, I thought they were only can.

[Chris Franjola]

Libby's or I believe was the brand or.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

Huh. Sure, sure.

[Heather McDonald]

And I have to say the mushy canned kind of tasty.

[Chris Franjola]

Well, that's the same way with the cranberry sauce. I don't know if you do. You do just canned ocean spray out of the can.

[Heather McDonald]

I like. No, I like. Okay. There's a Costco cranberry that like comes in a tub.

[Chris Franjola]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Also there's a Williams Sonoma.

[Chris Franjola]

Very fancy cranberry, but it has the bits of cranberry.

[Heather McDonald]

I like that.

[Chris Franjola]

I don't like that.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. A lot of people don't.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

They like a can sliced with the ridges.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

With the.

[Chris Franjola]

You could see the can on it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

How do you, where do you go with corn in this? How do you feel about corn?

[Chris Franjola]

I like it. I like. I eat corn as a turkey. I. It's proud of my diet.

[Heather McDonald]

I saw there's a recipe also at William Snowmer for a corn pudding casserole, which. That sounds kind of yummy.

[Chris Franjola]

Sound kind of good.

[Heather McDonald]

That sounds like better than just like some roasted corn on the side. Like you gotta jazz it up. You wouldn't have so much butter.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

On that day, like everything has like sticks and sticks of butter.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Sweet potatoes or yams and what's the difference? It's like alligator and crocodile. Yeah.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah. I don't, I, I honestly don't know the difference between one, one or the other.

[Heather McDonald]

Do you like a sweet potato?

[Chris Franjola]

I do, I do.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, do you like it like in a dish Mashed.

[Chris Franjola]

Mashed. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

My mom had a dish that was like apricots, pecans.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And like goopy goop. And then like. And then like the canned yams.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And she's dead. And that is one recipe I would absolutely make again. I just don't know how to make it. I know someone's going to know. I know some juicy soup. Write me and give it to me. Well, as a turkey.

[Chris Franjola]

Thank you for having me.

[Heather McDonald]

It's very hard to travel as a turkey. Be a stand up. As a turkey, you have to bring your equipment.

[Chris Franjola]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

The footwork is hard.

[Chris Franjola]

It is. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

It's hard to do your meet and greets. Yeah, but where can they touch each other?

[Chris Franjola]

Oh, my God. As a matter of fact, this is going to be on Thursday. I'll be in Albuquerque, New Mexico tonight. Albuquerque, New Mexico Hyenas tonight. And then tomorrow night I'm in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, hold on.

[Chris Franjola]

Thursday, this.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, Right, right. So this Friday, which is 21. Yes, I'm in November 21st. You're where?

[Chris Franjola]

Unit B in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Thursday, I'm at Albuquerque Hyenas in Albuquerque.

[Heather McDonald]

Got it.

[Chris Franjola]

Yes. And then I have the Vermont Comedy Club and December 4th Vermont Comedy Club and off Cabot Comedy Club in Beverly, Massachusetts. The 5th and 6th. Like December 5th and 6th, Frangola Fun has everything I love. And then, and then New Year's Eve, I'm at the La Jolla Comedy Store in La Jolla, California.

[Heather McDonald]

Perfect.

[Chris Franjola]

Perfect. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Love you, Chris. You're always such a delight.

[Chris Franjola]

Thank you for having me. Gobble, gobble. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Have a great time with your family and friends.

[Heather McDonald]

And you know, chrisfangiola.fun cover to cover. Check out his Patreon. Everything for me is@heather McDonald.net Instagram.

[Chris Franjola]

I got a lot of Instagram followers.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, good. Always follow him on Instagram. He's so funny. And you post all the time. That's just at Chris Frangola. And I, of course I have my streamer from from this week in from Bravo Con and you will still have until the end of Friday to watch it. If you have not seen seen it. A lot of people are buying it this week and enjoying it. You just go to heather McDonald.net and you click on the tour and it's there and you can stream it and watch it for the next like 48, 50 hours.

[Chris Franjola]

Did you have those impressionist girls on with you?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, I had Andrea Lopez doing Teresa and I have Anna Royman as Bethany Frankel and they were great. They were so funny and they were so sweet. And of course I had Brandy and Julie doing all like the Hot Housewife Hot Topic. Topics.

[Chris Franjola]

Fun.

[Heather McDonald]

It was great. Thank you. Love you. Bye. Hey, this is Sarah. Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fulfilling, even kind of cheesy. But I like it. Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all. So farewell, oatmeal. So long, you strange soggy Break up with bland breakfast and taste AM PM's bacon and and cheese biscuit made with cage tree eggs, smoked bacon and melty cheese on a buttery biscuit. Am PM too much good stuff.