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Heather McDonald
Has got the juiciest scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales for real life, Mr. Statement, serial data, and Serial Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Heather McDonald, juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I hope you guys all had a great Halloween and had fun. I want to tell you that the day of Halloween, I was given an incredible suggestion of a Halloween costume and it would have been genius. There just wasn't enough time to get it together. But my pilates instructor was like, heather, I know what you should be because she was listening to Juicy Scoop and she said, you should be pregnant Giselle. And Peter can be the karate, jiu jitsu guy, whatever. And I was so excited, but I knew it would be hard to get this outfit together. Also, it'd be so genius because she only announced her pregnant after her pregnancy early in the week. So nobody could have been that during that big Hollywood millions of hot parties Halloween situation. So I was like, this will be such an original idea, but there just wasn't enough time to try to find a karate outfit for Peter and a baby bump for me because we were doing stuff that day. So we went as Game of Thrones and I wore a long blonde wig and a lot of people just thought I was Cher. So maybe I'll be Cher next year. Anyway, it was fun. Hope you had a good, fun, safe time. Moving on to this weekend, you guys, I will be at the Irvine Improv one show this Friday night. And then that standup with Julie Goldman, who will also be doing standup before I come on stage. Then two shows on Saturday, November 9, 7:30 and 9:30, and then on November 10, there is a Juicy Scoop live. And that's always so fun. That's a 7pm that is lots of special guests, special surprises. There's going to be a Q and A, which I rarely do, so it'll be a little interactive. Lots of really funny, edgy ideas. This is not streamed. This is not going to be recorded and played later on any platform. This is only for the people in the room. So get your tickets at heathermcdonald. Net. Okay, well, you know, listen, you guys, obviously the news is all politics and you come to Juicy Scoop to escape the political talk and just have some fun and talk about juicy, frivolous shit, which thank you to all the people that have thanked me for that. Let me tell you, I've missed out on a lot of great opportunities to be really fucking funny and make some videos go viral. But no, I made a commitment to you and I'm sticking to it. So as we get through today, this story, there were other news sources that were trying to do something other than politics, and this was a big, big deal. Peanut the squirrel is an adorable squirrel that belongs to a very attractive human squirrel. Owning parents, they're all influencers, but I guess Peanut is the biggest Instagram star in the house. This is a sad story. He's no longer with us. This happened in New York City and people are absolutely so upset. I saw the TMZ article with the grieving parents of Peanut. So apparently Peanut the squirrel pet was euthanized by the New York New York State authorities, triggering significant public outcry. This was done as part of a rabies test after someone reportedly said they were bitten by the squirrel. And the authorities justified their actions by highlighting the illegal nature of keeping wild animals as pets. Now the owner, the dad, Mark Longo, Peanut's owner, along with his supporters, started an online petition to plan to take legal action against what they claim was excessive force. During the raid, they said these people came into their house, they separated them, they found Peanut. There was also a raccoon. But now there's other people. A New York congressman says that he and his fellow delegates want to answer. They want answers from the governor about Peanut. So now this guy is, like, standing behind Peanut. And of course, it's sad. Whatever. This Peanut was probably bringing in some money, bringing a lot of joy to people, I'm sure. I'm Gonna get comments that are. People are like, heather, this isn't funny. You don't know who Peanut is. You don't know what he brought to people. I don't. I understand. To these people, it was. Must have been like a dog. I don't know who lied about being bit by Peanut or not. I don't know if there was surveillance cameras. Peanut didn't get an attorney. It was a big deal. But they got. I mean, I see squirrels all the time, and I could see why someone thinks, like, I think this squirrel's fricking adorable. And I think I could train it to live in my house and be perfectly fine. And I guess Peanut was perfectly fine. And they're saying, we don't even know that it bit anybody. Like, how did this happen? And, like, it was like a raid. Like, all these people came. And then, of course, people are like, really? With all the shit that's going on in New York City, this is what our tax dollars. This is where you put the effort around this little innocent squirrel that, you know, was just hoping to go to, like, a revolve party at Stagecoach. I don't know. I don't know. I feel really badly. The Mark and his girlfriend or wife, they were crying, and the TMZ guys were practically crying. They were very involved with Peanut's life. And so, yeah, you know, that's. That's a story that doesn't involve politics. But it does. I see it does. Because why. Why was Peanut. Why did this happen to Peanut? So I don't know. Hopefully they can find another squirrel. Maybe they won't. Maybe they'll realize, you know, squirrels, it's too much of a risk to have a squirrel living in your house. I don't know. But they also. I guess there was also a raccoon that was involved, but I don't know if that raccoon was an Instagram influencer too. I don't know, you guys. This is the most I got out of the story, so it's very sad. Also, over the weekend, I watched the Martha Stewart Netflix doc. There were stories leading up to this, and I really enjoyed her really dry sense of humor. She's like in her early 80s. She looks amazing. She said she did not like the special that much. She said it looked like it was. She portrayed like an old, lonely woman. Cause they showed her walking around her garden. She has this incredible property where it looks like she's, like the only gardener there. Which obviously they can't be it. It's like acres and acres. But it's like literally so many shots of her driving around in like a tractor or whatever and like talking about like to people like this, this one needs to be trimmed this way. It's really kind of amazing how much she knows. But anyway, she said that she looked kind of old as she like walked around with her old walk or whatever, which was kind of funny. She talked about her husband cheating on her and said, you know, listen, if your husband's cheating on you, look at him like what he is, he's a piece of shit and get rid of him. But she didn't get rid of him. She shared all of her letters that she wrote to him over and over again, you know, saying that she was so hurt because he was like a serial cheater. The worst was that she had this girl working for her who needed a place to stay and she's like, oh, just stay in the, you know, in the guest house. And then she found out they were having an affair. So that really sucks when you hire someone to like, you know, help with your flowers or whatever or help with your baked goods and then she's fucking her husband. So that part was sad. But then they brought up the fact that she had cheated a couple times and she didn't consider it cheating. She's like, oh, please. It was a brief dalliance with a very attractive Irishman. You think I was going to leave my husband for an Irishman? No, he doesn't even know about it. And then the documentarian is like, no, he did. We talked to him. And she's like, oh, well, it was an Irishman. He was attractive. But I mean, come on. So that was pretty funny now. It was really great. I think you should watch it. It really showed what she built and how hard she worked and you know, was she a bitch on occasion? Cuz someone used the wrong knife. Yeah, that's her job. Her job was to tell show people that were working for her on camera how to make stuff. So if they're using the wrong knife, she's gotta say, hey, you're using the wrong knife. Like you work for me. We're not gonna have cameras here and then have someone see that. You don't even know how to use the proper knife to dice the onion. So there were a couple moments where like she was a little short with people. Okay. I don't think like that made her sound like a bitch, sound like a boss. So it was, it's really funny. They get into her snoop thing and then they get into why she went to prison. And it definitely seemed a bit of a witch hunt going after this woman. And. But I'm not going to say it all, so you guys watch it. I talk about a little bit more on my next Patreon and get into some more details, but it's, it's good and I have a lot of respect for her and she is fun and. Okay. Now other sad news. Teddy Mellencamp of formerly Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She and her husband Edwin, of 13 years. She announced on Saturday that she's getting a divorce. And she said, you know, I'm coming forward with this before speculation begins, but we made the difficult decision to divorce. Also, Tamara said on her show that she has a photo that was sent to her from Vicki while Vicki was filming the never to be seen Ultimate Girls trip in Morocco. And she did not show the photo. Tamara, but said it looked like Brandi was on top of her. And like, you know, Caroline Manzo couldn't get out and Vicki sent it, being like, this is crazy, whatever. However, most of the girls that were on that trip have stood up for Brandi, saying, Brandi doesn't deserve this. It wasn't the way Caroline has described in her lawsuit against Bravo. So by Tamara bringing this up, I feel like this isn't great for the case. It's good for Caroline and it's not great for Bravo. I think she was doing it to get at Vicki, but I think this wasn't a smart move to share this publicly because it doesn't help the case as far as Caroline suing Bravo. And Bravo is the employer of all these people. So there you go. Jennifer Lopez was out being photographed and having fun. And remember, she's in this movie, it's called Unstoppable, that is getting really good reviews. And I think it's kind of a different role for her, a more serious role. And Ben Affleck and Matt Damon were producers and he was talking about the movie and he said, Jennifer is great in it. She's fabulous. Which doesn't surprise us. Like, he wants the movie to do well. He doesn't want. He doesn't want the narrative to be that he was an asshole that tricked her into falling back in love with him and then dumping her. So this is good. Like, this could be the cherry on top of the divorce cake that they all participate in this movie that is, like, really good, well received, maybe gets some awards during awards season. I said that, too. Wouldn't it be great if she was nominated for some things for her acting in this movie? And you know, and falling in love with him again was just a big three year mistake on her part. And she moves along and she walks off with an Oscar and whatever. But I kind of think that's what is trying to be put out there at this time. Well, Ye and Bianca Kanye, also known as Ye and Bianca, are talking about starting their own nudist colony. They are in nudist therapy where they meet with a therapist at her nude as couples therapy. And according to these sources, they say, well, we know that she likes to like, walk around partially nude, oftentimes without shoes, which I feel is the cruelest part of this whole nude thing, especially when you're in Disneyland. But that what you don't know is that he loves being nude too. And I am like, ew. First of all, I don't know if I believe this story at all. It's from Intouch Weekly. This is just like a source told in Touch Weekly, Whatever. They want to start a nudist colony where, like, people would just like walk around nude. Which, by the way, nudist colonies and like nude beaches and all that stuff has have existed for a really long time, like nude cruises, all this, like, stuff. So I guess people will like it, but I don't know that his body's ready to be nude right now. And he wears a lot of sweats and things. So they're like, no. You have no idea how much Kanye just loves walking around nude. It's just so weird. But this might be her. This is all her supposedly. So now we go to like, it's really Bianca who loves being nude. She has pushed for it. She loves it. She. It's not like she's being forced to wear barely anything. She loves it. So very weird and interesting. Lizzo said that she's decided to stop being vegan. A mid weight loss journey. So now Lizzo has never said that she is on Ozempic. She wore an Ozempic, really funny costume, but she's never said that she's been on it. Now there's all the different versions of it, but it's basically, are you on the shots that curb your appetite or not? And most people are that have lost a significant amount of weight within like a year period. And she's one of those people. And it's one of the things I predicted right from the start. I said, watch. Lizzo's gonna lose weight and it's not gonna be. It's gonna be received differently. Some people are gonna feel like you've abandoned your positivity, whatever she looks great. People are still like, let's not forget she was awful to her dancers who are filing a lawsuit. And I don't know where that went. I also don't know when the last time she brought out new music. I hope she's working on new music, but she looks great. And anyway, my opinion of her not being vegan is when you're on these weight loss shots, it's really important that you eat protein because you're not that hungry and you want to eat like salmon, fish, something like that. And I think it is kind of a hard thing to do with vegan. And you're like, I don't need to be vegan. Like, I'm barely eating. Let me just have what I want. So that is what I think is really behind this. Okay, well, you guys have been asking and asking, where is Megan Marle's American Riviera Orchard products? Where is the jam? Where is it? Like, how are we even going to get through the holidays without these products? Well, there's been an issue with the trademark situation because two things. They're saying it's too similar to another lifestyle brand called Harry and David's Royal Riviera Pear Baskets. That is a little similar. And when they say it's similar, they're saying there's a confusion and we had it first. So I guess she right now is still trying to get the trademark. So they protested. The Harry and David people protested, claiming that it's confusion. Then they also noted issues. The US Patent also said that there is an issue because Markle's brand name because it describes a geographic location, which complicates trademark approvals. There really is an American Riviera Orchard that's like somewhere near her house in Montecito, but now she bought a house in Portugal. So who knows when she's living leaving America if this isn't going to work out. Their hundred million dollar Netflix deal that they inked in 2020 for all the content, the hundred million dollars worth of content that Netflix was going to reap from working with Meghan and Harry, that's almost over with. What did we see besides the documentary? Am I missing something? Was there a scripted series? Was there like a Love is Blind franchise I missed? Where was all the hundred million dollars worth of content that Netflix got besides the documentary about them? There was nothing else. So that ended just like the, I don't even know, $40 million Spotify deal it had. So she was really putting all her energy into making some jam that she sent to influencers. And that has not worked out. I am telling you guys, we are getting so close to Meghan Markle joining some type of ladies reality show. Maybe it won't be Real Housewives. Maybe it'll be something in Portugal. Maybe it'll be the Real Housewives of Portugal. When she goes over there, it looks like her house is in some part of, like, a golf, country club situation. That could be fun. There could be, like, a mix of expats or whatever or ex Europeans or all Europeans, or I don't know who's living in Portugal, but it sounds like a delightful place to be. And I'm telling you, that's happening. Of course, there's always rumors that they're not happy and blah, blah, blah, but we'll see. Also, that could maybe not a big deal. Maybe she gets her trademark, and you guys eat the jam by Christmas, and you're like, why did Heather even bother talking about that? I don't know. But I'm telling you, I don't think the Jam's gonna be a big deal. A big hit. And I think we're gonna see her on some type of reality show, tv, something, sooner than we could imagine. Also, according to New York Post, King Charles has cut off his brother, Prince Andrew, who was also, you know, best friend with Epstein, his 1.3 million allowance. This is according to a book. And he lives in this house, Prince Andrew, and he's, like, renovated and everything, but he doesn't own it. It's like this lease that. That is part of the Royals leasing this land. So if he loses. If he. If this is true, which is said in this book, and he loses this allowance that he gets from king Charles, this 1.3 million a year, that would really cause him to probably have to move out. And he may never reap the benefits of renovating this house. And, I mean, he doesn't have his duties anymore, so he's probably like, why do we have to pay him if he's not doing anything for us anymore? Because he was such a disgrace because he was hanging out with Epstein. He did that horrible interview with the BBC interviewer where he's like, I don't sweat. And therefore, you know, this person lied about me ever being with her at a nightclub and all the stuff that went on with that story. We all know he's a piece of shit and he's gross, so good luck to him. All right, now for a very juicy interview. This is truly an inside Hollywood. What is happening now? I've got Tara Electra, who started her own agency unruly to represent some of the biggest influencers and many of the biggest only fan stars and how that really works and how beneficial it is. Also, she's teamed up with returned Juicy Scoop guest David Weintraub, who is producer, agent manager to the stars, and they really get into what this business is about and how OnlyFans is really changing people's lives and all the juicy good and bad stories that go along with it. All right, let's get going. This Juicy Scoop episode is brought to you by nocd. When people joke about being a little ocd, I wish they knew what it's really like to live with ocd. Because it's nothing like the stereotypes about having to be super neat, tidy and organized. OCD is a serious condition that can become totally debilitating. The thoughts can feel so real that seeking help can seem like a huge risk. 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So, Tara, tell me a little bit about your background and how you got into creating your own agency.
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Tara Electra
Yeah, so I've been working with influencers for 10 years. So, like, right when influencers were just becoming a thing and no one knew what to do with them. And I just had so many friends that had, like, millions of followers. And everyone thought, if you had millions of followers, you're making millions of dollars. And there was a lot of influencers that were broke, making nothing, which was like, people recognize them on the street, but they're broke, and they can't figure out how to make money. So I started seeing a lot of the problems that they were dealing with, and I started helping them monetize in literally every single way you could possibly monetize on the Internet. And so, you know, I failed. I started a lot of businesses. I got fucked over in la. Just went through all the Hollywood stuff.
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Heather McDonald
Well, tell me, what is what your favorite I got over stories.
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Tara Electra
Oh, my favorite one was this one guy basically came to me, and he was a friend of mine, and he's like, I have this idea for this platform, but I need influencers for it. And so he's like. And I'm like, okay. And then he's like, I'll give you 50% of it, and we'll start building it. So we started building it for, like, three months. He found this investor and was like, hey, if you go sign 10 influencers up on a letter of intent, he'll invest like, a million dollars. So I'm like, okay. So I go sign with Dre London. I sign Post Malone. So Dre London's his manager. I signed, like, this guy Vitaly, who was a big influencer. Helen, Owen, and Zach, like a bunch of influencers. I signed 10 of them. My friend didn't know any of them. So I got all these people to sign up to the idea just off me pitching it. And then the investors like, okay, I'm coming in. They started the. The company formation and all this stuff. And then I went to a meeting with one of my mentors, and he was sitting next to me, and we were talking to him about how to build the financial aspect of the platform. And the guy's like, what's the name of the llc? And then my friend told him, he's like, oh, it's this. And he looked it up. He's like, okay. So I see you, you own. You own X amount. And the. And then he said the investor's name and he's like. And he owns the other amount. So it's just you two. And I was sitting next to him and I looked over at him, I'm like, what? And then I found out, I called the investor and he said to the investor that I was just his assistant helping him gather the talent and he formed.
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Heather McDonald
How many years ago was this?
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Tara Electra
It's probably like when I was like 23. So, like, probably I'm 30 now.
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Heather McDonald
So then is that platform still around?
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Tara Electra
So then I called all the influencers is the best part. So I called all the influencers. I said, you can stay if you want to keep going, but I'm going to pull out. And every single one of them fell off. And then fast forward. I have unruly blow up your agency now? Yeah, my agency now. I get invited to a meeting with the owner of a huge platform. I go to the meeting and I'm sitting down with the owner of the platform and he comes in as his employee, writing notes for the meeting. Wow, it was so cool.
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David Weintraub
The tables turn.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah, that's a great female. You fucked me over story and fuck around and see what happens. Kind of a story. I like it.
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Tara Electra
Yeah. I feel like in LA as like a female in this industry, people automatically, initially will take you, like, put you down or think that you're not going to be at the level they will. So it's. You get underestimated.
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David Weintraub
Why do, why do you think that, though? I feel like there's so many successful women that are like just bosses now that I don't feel like anyone walks in a room now and thinks that at all. Because you know that, like, women are coming to the table with money and you make so much money for these women.
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Tara Electra
Yeah.
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David Weintraub
You know, it changes their lives in some ways.
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Heather McDonald
But I think even 10 years ago, things were really different.
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Tara Electra
Exactly.
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Heather McDonald
Even five years ago, I feel like finally it's like finally.
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Tara Electra
Yeah.
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Heather McDonald
Kind of leveled out and is, you know, based more on like the merit of what you bring in and not to underestimate people. But yeah, I think there's just that natural assumption of like, oh, you know, you must be the cute assistant since you're young and you're cute. You're the cute Young assistant. You know, that was it. Like, that was just, you know, we've seen. Yes, you must be in the mail room.
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David Weintraub
You must be in the mail now. It's the hot CEO.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So now, okay, this. So you guys threw this big Halloween party that's, like, all over the news. I talked about it on Thursday's show. I called you, David.
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David Weintraub
Yeah, I know.
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Heather McDonald
I just said, this story is crazy, which was that P. Diddy's three sons were at your Halloween party with all these influencers, sexy influencer, like, onlyfans people and rock stars and rappers. And they approached Ray J because they don't like that Ray J has been speaking about the P. Diddy case and tried to fight him. And then Chris Brown tried to step in and break it up. And I'm like, this. And then your name is thrown in at David. And I'm like. I immediately texted you. And I'm like, what the. What is this? And then I'm like. And what was everybody dressed as? Because that's the most important part of the story.
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David Weintraub
Well, Ray J went dressed as Kanye, first of all. But we'll get to that. First of all, that was the fifth party that she's done. And I've been to five of the four. And this party every year is the hottest Halloween party by far. I mean, it's taken, like. Forget about, like, the Playboy Mansion or the Maxim party or whatever. The unruly party is that party.
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Heather McDonald
Okay? And I'm being invited next year.
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Tara Electra
Thank you.
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David Weintraub
Everybody fights to get into this party. I mean, like, lines of people, bands, and there's a whole process to get vetted and in. And, you know, it is the sexy people, it is the beautiful people, it is the famous people. This year, I brought clients of mine and friends of mine, brought Amber Rose, and I brought Ray J. And, you know, the party was going amazing. We just had a good time. There was nothing bad as possible. We were part. Everybody was partying. Ray was partying with Chris, with Tyga, with Amber, was doing her thing with Ty Dolla Sign. Ty Dolla Sign.
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Tara Electra
Laina Barker came, Anwar Hadid. I mean, literally so many people.
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David Weintraub
Tana, of course. And everything. Everything was great. We were just having a ball. And, like, you know, there is a lot of content being shot there. So you would think that if there was any kind of, like, kerfuffle of sorts, it would be video everywhere of that. But the party was great. And then when we were leaving, you know, everyone was kind of in masks, and I have my security, Chris was kind of in front of us. Me and Ray and Amber were walking out. And then like three boys in mass just like, came up and just started. I couldn't even really hear what they were saying, but they just pressed Ray. They were pressing him and pressing him, physically pressing, like, pressing, pressing. In the world of hip hop, means to come up and sort of just be aggressive with somebody and kind of be like, yo, this is X, Y and Z. And it just didn't really make any sense. So them being Ray was actually at that moment, ready to fight. I mean, it was because this was the third time that one of the kids had approached him and said that he wasn't to be talking about his father. Now Ray is a television star. We have our own outlets, our own networks, our own TV shows, and he's on television every day. So if. If you're in an interview and you're being asked about cultural, pop culture news and you have an opinion of something, you have every right to say it. You can't stop him. Nobody is bigger than the next person. And I think that Ray felt you can't keep continuing to go and press me. So at that moment, just all hell broke, broke loose. They started to kind of like bump each other and got a little while. Chris Brown ran to the side, pulled the diddy boys off, and me and my security pulled Ray off. And it was like, we're not going to ruin the unruly party with this stuff because this is what.
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Heather McDonald
The unruly party. It's kind of appropriate.
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David Weintraub
I was like, I'm like, of course I bring my clients to the unruly party to hang out. That we also want unruly and dwe to be in business with these people. And then all hell breaks loose there. So luckily, I think that we avoided a bigger problem because Ray's not a guy to play around with. And I mean, it could have gotten very serious very quickly. And that's a scary moment.
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Heather McDonald
So who broke it up? The security people?
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David Weintraub
No, Chris and I. Oh, Chris Brown.
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Heather McDonald
That's right. He was there.
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Tara Electra
And Amber Rose was there too.
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David Weintraub
And Amber. And Amber. And Amber's like, why am I in the middle of this? It was just all. And it was kind of just a weird. But that's like the normal world. I mean, for me, I have such an eclectic group of clients. I mean, I have rappers, rock stars, reality stars, influencers, you know, pop culture people that are famous for two minutes for whatever reason. Like, I have a lot of very interesting clients. So, like, that group moving around in that group's party is just a big menagerie of craziness, as you can imagine, because the unruly party is the unruly party for a reason.
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Heather McDonald
So then they. So then it all ended. Okay.
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David Weintraub
So, well, for now. For today. Now we'll see what happens after this podcast. But fuck them. Don't fucking press, right?
- [33:47]
Heather McDonald
Wait, I think this is pretty amazing. This is tmz. This is your client, Little Baby.
- [33:53]
David Weintraub
No, this is my. My friend's client. But I. This is a gig that I did.
- [33:56]
Heather McDonald
Oh, okay. So what is this story?
- [33:59]
David Weintraub
So, you know. You know, the personal appearance business is the business. So, like, they had personal appearances at their party where people are performing. And that's not considered a concert. Cause you're not selling tickets to it. So, like, a personal appearance is when you bring in a celebrity to do a private show. And that is what we're doing. This is one I did.
- [34:18]
Heather McDonald
I mean, that's like Beyonce at the Atlantis opening in Dubai. Like, the biggest stars, they'll pay. There's enough rich people that will pay to have their favorite person at their event.
- [34:28]
David Weintraub
Yes. And I have a lot of those clients. And this particular bar mitzvah, this is a really wonderful Persian Jewish family who I've done a number of parties for. They're great, very generous, and they just want to have their guests have the best time. And we brought in Lil Baby to do a private show for the kids. And it was a surprise.
- [34:48]
Heather McDonald
For the bar mitzvah.
- [34:49]
David Weintraub
For the bar mitzvah.
- [34:49]
Heather McDonald
I love it.
- [34:50]
David Weintraub
And, you know, this is. You know, a lot of money is exchanging hands, and, you know, people are doing. I mean, to have your dream rapper come to your bar mitzvah is. There is nothing like that in the world. And the thing is, Lil Baby is a complete professional. He was on the plane on time. He was there early. He took all the pictures. He did an incredible show. The family is happy. And then when you do that kind of gig for me, I have 10 other families and now want me to go and do their parties and go bring them their talent, you know? Well, we need a comedian. I'm hiring you.
- [35:25]
Heather McDonald
Yes. This is what. This is what I have been manifesting, okay. Is as a comedian, I won't just do my hour. Stand up.
- [35:36]
David Weintraub
No.
- [35:37]
Heather McDonald
For the right price.
- [35:38]
David Weintraub
Yes.
- [35:39]
Heather McDonald
Does your wife love housewives and want all the dish and want me to do all the impressions and hang out with she and her friends on the mega yacht in Dubai, whatever that is? Lifestyles of the Rich and Funny, and you bring me in.
- [35:59]
David Weintraub
Wow. So are we using.
- [36:02]
Heather McDonald
It's hanging out. It's a little more of a hangout.
- [36:04]
David Weintraub
So.
- [36:05]
Heather McDonald
So it's not the 30 minute, you know, rap bit for the kids because I don't think that's. I don't know that I could pull that. But the experience of having me be one of the girlfriends of all your rich friends and kind of being the court gesture for the right price.
- [36:24]
David Weintraub
Could this be a paywall?
- [36:25]
Heather McDonald
Kind of for the right price. I will do it.
- [36:28]
David Weintraub
Tested it with her.
- [36:29]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. Go on the trip.
- [36:31]
Tara Electra
She's different. Different comedian.
- [36:33]
David Weintraub
Right.
- [36:33]
Tara Electra
Different.
- [36:34]
David Weintraub
Right.
- [36:34]
Tara Electra
But definitely a cool industry. For sure.
- [36:37]
Heather McDonald
We'll see. I feel like that can happen. I think it's going to happen.
- [36:41]
David Weintraub
I like that though.
- [36:42]
Tara Electra
Yeah.
- [36:43]
David Weintraub
Let's think about. We'll have to sidebar about that one.
- [36:45]
Tara Electra
Yes.
- [36:46]
Heather McDonald
Yes. So, okay. So wait, just as we'll finish just getting into this.
- [36:52]
David Weintraub
Yes.
- [36:53]
Heather McDonald
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- [41:47]
David Weintraub
Wow.
- [41:48]
Heather McDonald
Or he's already been switched because they did a raid on the prison.
- [41:52]
David Weintraub
What do you mean by switched? You mean that he's. It's a.
- [41:54]
Heather McDonald
It's not someone. It's a dupe. That's actually.
- [41:57]
David Weintraub
And where is. And then where is he? Is he dead? Alive?
- [42:02]
Heather McDonald
Oh, alive. Alive somewhere.
- [42:03]
David Weintraub
Oh, he's alive.
- [42:04]
Heather McDonald
I think alive somewhere. I'm saying if we're going to go down the route of. If you were in that, in that position, let's say you're innocent, you're P. Diddy, you're innocent. But it looks like the cards are stacked against you and there is an opportunity for you to go to an island somewhere and not have to face possible life in prison. But you're never going to be P. Diddy. You're never going to have fun parties anymore. You're never going to have power, you're never going to make music again. You're just going to be like safe on an island, like in a nice house, whatever. You know, would that, would that even be something that would be satisfying to your life? I don't know. But so that I think it's crazy because who's the person, who's the person that's like, oh, I'll take over and never say anything and get plastic surgery. Look like you. I don't know.
- [42:51]
David Weintraub
It's a robot.
- [42:52]
Tara Electra
That's true.
- [42:52]
Heather McDonald
I don't know. I don't necessarily believe that. I think he is there, but with everything that you guys like touching on, I just wanted to kind of get your general. Like, what is the vibe? Are people scared that names are going to be called? Because I'm like, we never knew any names in Epstein. We never got any real. No other person went down for that. So I'm kind of like, I thought.
- [43:15]
Tara Electra
So many people came out about Epstein that were associated with it, but like nothing ever happens.
- [43:20]
David Weintraub
Well, the list of all the people on the planes and, you know, things like that. But it's. I mean, look, if there was eight sex tapes that existed with all of these people, there is about zero chance that it would be able to be suppressed for that long in this market without somebody either leaking clips of it or shopping it at this point. And it's not the same era of a lot of stuff that we obviously live through with, like, you know, the Ray J. Kim sex tape. That was a different era. You know, that was a business. Papers were signed, a product comes out, a video is sold, you know, makes 200 million. This is a time when this is about, like, illegal activities that may have been influenced by partying. So this is a very weird, touchy time. If it's going to come out, I think you already would have seen a little bit of it. Because the only way to get people active in that world is to drop the photo of it or to drop the little leak, because that makes everybody scurry to make sure it goes away.
- [44:27]
Heather McDonald
I mean, I think what happened is Wyatt came down is exactly that. I think he, like Epstein filmed it all for his own archives. Joy. But also, like, blackmail. I do think Kim Porter got hold of it, and maybe she. You know, and maybe when she presented it to him, that's what happened. And then someone else got it. And so we'll see. But, like, I hate that every week there's like, 15 articles like this. And we'll, you know, the trial isn't for months and months, so I don't know, like, I'm just. We'll. We'll see what happens if anybody gets mentioned.
- [45:07]
Tara Electra
You know, what's crazy to me is the kids, like, Justin Combs and Sean Combs, all of them were living like his children la. Like, they threw all the parties. They were just living the life, dating all these famous influencer girls. And, like, they were, like, having the life. So it's just wild to me to watch them. Their whole world be changed.
- [45:28]
Heather McDonald
Remember when Steve Harvey's stepdaughter dated Sean. Wait, dated P. Diddy's son, and then started dating P. Diddy?
- [45:39]
Tara Electra
Yeah, I've heard of things like that. That, like, he's dated people that his sons have dated. Yes, I've heard of.
- [45:44]
Heather McDonald
But then also, like, America's dad, Steve Harvey was like, okay with that. Makes people. Makes you go, what the hell? Who knew what? Or maybe you didn't know anything. Maybe you were like, whatever. She's an adult. He's delightful to me. We've always been friendly. I mean, just because there's people with photos with him doesn't mean anything. Like if I was at a party and P. Diddy was there and someone was like, let me get a photo of you. I'd be like, three years ago, and then it would look like I did something wrong.
- [46:11]
David Weintraub
Well, people are only looking at it like that now. I mean, that's what they're saying now, you know?
- [46:17]
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
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David Weintraub
I mean, I went to Diddy's 50th birthday and I went to Diddy's super bowl party in Miami right before COVID Those were dope parties. There was nothing weird going on. I didn't see anything weird going on. Every celebrity was there and they were having a good time. But it wasn't like some sex party. It was a regular party.
- [46:42]
Heather McDonald
But how long did you stay?
- [46:43]
David Weintraub
I mean, I wasn't there till five in the morning, but I was there like I was there probably till like 2. There was no secret room that I saw or like some weird thing going on. It was like it was a. It was a party. It was a birthday party. It was a Super bowl party. Now look, I'm sure as the hours get weirder and the drugs start to kick in and the alcohol goes crazier and the regular people leave that aren't in that little circle, the weird shit may start to go down. But isn't that at any party in the world? Like, isn't there like, there's always like the party and then the after party. And I'm not condoning any of that stuff, but I'm saying a lot of people went to those parties and did not see anything. So. So you cannot be shocked in any way that they're like, well, how did you not know? How did you not know? Ray J is on TV talking about it. He didn't know. He traveled the world with Diddy. He never saw. I mean, if something like that really was happening, happening, that's happening with a very small group of people in a very tied in inner circle.
- [47:42]
Heather McDonald
Well, I feel like this on a much lower level is like, I have never tried cocaine. I've never done it. I've never tried it. And what I've always realized with that is even though I wouldn't care if we were hanging out and you guys did a line, whatever, that's your business, whatever. I'd be like, be careful. You got something. Be careful. There's no fentanyl in it. Be sure it's not pink. Like, I would be like concerned today, but let's just say five years ago I wouldn't care and I would never Judge, I would never tell.
- [48:08]
David Weintraub
Right.
- [48:09]
Heather McDonald
But what I've noticed is I've literally never seen anyone do it since I was, like, 19.
- [48:14]
David Weintraub
Because they know you don't do it.
- [48:15]
Heather McDonald
They know I don't do it. They keep it at private. And I kind of think this is probably the same thing. If they know you're not down and you're not going to be participatory, then they don't want you to know that they do it. And so they keep it very separate. And so the night that you have with Diddy is going to be very different than somebody else.
- [48:34]
David Weintraub
Very true.
- [48:35]
Heather McDonald
So I think it's very similar to that. And so then when people say, did you see anything weird? Did you ever. To me, Heather, did you ever see this person do drugs? I can honestly say, no. No, I never did. You know, they knew that wasn't my thing. I had cocktails with them, you know, but that was it. So it's like, I think it could be kind of like that now, getting back to your. To your business and stuff. Okay, let's talk a little bit about only fans. Because, you know, when it first started, it was like, oh, my God, this is like a way for an independent woman to be in charge of her sexy. Whatever, porn.
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Tara Electra
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
But then we realized, no, it's all these different levels and content. Content.
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David Weintraub
All content.
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Heather McDonald
But I'm saying what it originally was, it was like, oh, my gosh. And there was. It was good because it was like, you know, in my day, there were. There's like a ton of really interesting documentaries about the porn industry in the Valley from 25 years ago. And I was, like, fascinated with, like, porn documentaries.
- [49:40]
David Weintraub
Which one are you talking about?
- [49:41]
Heather McDonald
All of them. Anything. There was like a. I don't know why, I was just fascinated by it. The women, how they'd be interviewed, what they would say, what they would do. And even back then they were like, no, I love it. And then there'd be someone that didn't love it, whatever. And I always found it interesting, like, whether it was the story of Tracy Lords, who was this girl who was doing porn and was making it huge, and then they found out that she was actually under 18 when these movies were made. But then there was a whole thing was like, no, she knew what she was doing and she wanted this news to get out. And then she became, like a mainstream real actress. So there was always this like, oh, if you do this even, like, Boogie Nights, the movie of Boogie Nights, all that kind of stuff. And now, like, that whole industry of like, okay, how many movies are you going to do? But you don't own it. You're just an actress that feels like that doesn't even exist anymore.
- [50:37]
David Weintraub
Well, the scale is so different now because this phone has changed your life. I mean, the amount of people that you can reach instantly and secretively and control what's coming out. Why would you go and work for someone else?
- [50:51]
Heather McDonald
Right?
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David Weintraub
What's the point? If you have smart people that know how to market you like this woman and you have content that is great and you're beautiful and you're having fun, I mean, there's millions if not billions of dollars that can be made and you're in control of it. So you don't have to do anything that you don't want to do and you're in control of everything in your life.
- [51:12]
Tara Electra
Yeah, I was going to say something that's interesting to me is like back in the day, people were lining up, like girls were lining up to pose nude in Playboy for free.
- [51:21]
Heather McDonald
Right.
- [51:22]
Tara Electra
Basically, there were so many girls that didn't get paid and they just want to do it for the fame or be around Hugh Hefner and all that stuff. So, like, it's interesting to me because the moment like female empowerment came into place and now all these girls are rising up and taking on their own stuff and doing their own businesses and becoming smarter is like kind of in the shift with OnlyFans coming out. And I think the biggest misconception is that OnlyFans is all porn. Because I, when I first saw this industry, the only reason I even touched it because it was so drastically different from anything I did and I, and I didn't want to be in that space initially was because it's the exact same thing as an E commerce store. So the only difference from like Fashion Nova, like the brand name Fashion Nova with all the products, the only difference is that they're selling products. And on this brand's website, which is the talent's name and has things for sale is that it's content. So it's actually ran very similarly to an E commerce website. And so I helped creators create their own brands. And I used to see that like, oh, wow, there's only a certain percent that will buy a hairbrush from this creator that even care about that. Right. But 100% of their fans are following them to see more of them. And so if you put a paywall in front of it, there's people that will pay just to talk to them, just to ask them, what are you doing? Today or can I have a private tour of your room in your house and pay thousands of dollars where they're like, here's my bedroom, this is my doggy fluff. Like where the things that are being sold is insane just because it's more access to your favorite creator. So if you use it in that way, girls don't have to go fully nude or do that type of stuff. And so that's where our sweet spot has been is that literally there's only like a very few select creators that actually show a nipple that are assigned to me and the rest of them don't do any nudity. And so at the end of the day we let the talent decide, like, what do you want to do? It's their choice 100%. But the main thing is that I think that the reason it monetizes so well is people want to have. People are willing to pay for more access. If you think about Netflix, like Netflix proved that the content is valuable enough and people will pay not to have to see an ad. And so it's the same thing now. It's going into the creator space. People don't want to see you hold up your, you know, your sponsored post or say to buy this and buy that. People will pay to have content and more access to you. And so I think the world is changing and the paywall industry is becoming more and more powerful. So anything that you can pay to have access or content without ads, people are doing. And I think it's going to become bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. Like Instagram launched the subscription. Like everyone's trying to figure out how to do.
- [53:56]
Heather McDonald
Does it kill your entrepreneurial math brain that Britney is doing what she's doing? And why is she not on an only fans?
- [54:07]
Tara Electra
The reason why I've tried to get her multiple times, the reason why is because she has to deal with like some very brand friendly. I think it's like Disney or someone is doing some big deal with her so she can't be on OnlyFans or I'll get. But it's interesting because she's giving it for free. I don't.
- [54:23]
Heather McDonald
Wait, you mean you're saying right now she can't sign do. But. But you think she was actually interested in possibly doing that?
- [54:30]
Tara Electra
I would assume that she would have done based off what I've heard. Yes.
- [54:34]
David Weintraub
I just, I just made Britney Spears A $10 million offer to sit down for a one hour interview, which she turned down. So clearly. And this was a real offer, a real buyer.
- [54:48]
Heather McDonald
Well, thank you for representing me in that. And I'm so disappointed that it did not work out. I am willing to go down a couple mil if you want to go back.
- [54:56]
David Weintraub
10 million for one hour. She doesn't need to do any. She doesn't want to do anything. And the people that are around her don't want her to do anything. And this was an offer that was made directly to her with no agents, no managers, just people that are really, like. With her saying, here's $10 million, all you have to do is sit down for an hour. I'm kind of glad that she turned it down because I feel like the feedback I got of where she is in her life right now, the interview wouldn't have gone well for her, and you wouldn't have been able to maybe recover from whatever comes out from that interview. And that's a sad, scary thing. But at the same time, my client wanted me to make the offer. I made the offer, and here we are.
- [55:42]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean. I mean, that's been the thing that, like, Spencer Pratt has said from the very beginning. Like, why is she just giving it all? Because no matter what, I mean, she's turned off the comments, but she'll still get hundreds of thousands of likes and views. And obviously she likes doing it because that's giving her some feedback while she's just alone in her house, spinning around in her brown sensible pumps and bikini and fur hat. Like, you know, and. But yeah, I guess she, you know, I guess she won't, but I think at one point maybe she will.
- [56:15]
Tara Electra
I think the cool way to look at it, too, is, like, I think a lot of these females started to realize that did go on OnlyFans is like, they were all posting photos in bikinis and all this stuff for free, right? And so now they're like, okay, you're going to judge me because now I'm selling that same photo I used to post for free. That's why it's like, there's. Yes, there's a lot of porn on OnlyFans. So there's girls that do porn, but there's a lot of girls that are literally selling the same photo that they could easily post for free on Instagram that wouldn't get shadow banned because it's aligned with Instagram's terms and services. It's not porn. And they're selling it for, like $50 a sell. And just something about the people buying that, they have access to it. It's them. No one else is seeing it.
- [56:56]
David Weintraub
It's Kind of like an NFT in a weird way. Yeah, it's got that feeling that, like you're the only one that has this piece of content and you've got to think your phone, you're reaching the world. A DVD can only move as far as somebody walking in a store and buying it. This is access to everything. So the amount of money that's made so quickly, you know, five years ago, when I met Tara and we mutually represent Tana Mojo and I learned a whole business that I was trying to understand that she came and basically gave me the five bullet points of how this thing works. And once you understand how that works, you can cross everybody over into this side and into my side very easily. You just have to have the ability, the look, the style and the outlet to do it. And if you have that, you should make money on every side of the business.
- [57:50]
Heather McDonald
Now, in talking to the fans privately, you know, that type of thing, has it ever come where there is a scary moment or where someone does connect with a fan or maybe does want to meet them in person or does fall in love with a fan or like, has there ever been any or gets to a scary, like stalker type of place?
- [58:12]
Tara Electra
Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's been girls that when they're talking to their fans, have dealt with some interesting situations. And I think there's more good than bad. But of course, I think once you're a big influencer and you have a lot of fans, some people get, you know, stalkers and obsess with them. Even before only fans. Any girl that has millions of followers is. Probably has stalkers. I've had some of my friends tell me that, like they've had men like standing outside of their window.
- [58:37]
David Weintraub
But that's anyone who's famous, it's not. It's not attributed because of only fans. It's a fame thing. If, if you're famous, that's going to happen. I'm sure you have stalkers. I'm sure there's. Should we get you one?
- [58:51]
Heather McDonald
I have some weird haters, but I think they're too lazy. I think they're too lazy to leave their house. But that's the same thing. But, you know, nothing to whatever. But yeah, you're right. I mean, that's just the thing. It's like, sadly, you can find anybody, you know, and so it's just being like hyper vigilant around your surroundings when you're out and all that. But with like, with doing it, does it ever get to a place where someone is like, wow, If I do this, maybe I do still want to be an actor and this could affect my act.
- [59:26]
David Weintraub
Those days are over, I think. I don't know what you think, but I think those days are completely gone.
- [59:31]
Heather McDonald
What about when I sometimes think, oh, you know, this person's making 2 million a month, does it like then par off? Like, like, yeah, like, because it's like, okay, okay. I got to see my high school crush that was this movie star and I followed her for like a couple months. But I am a horny dude and I only have so much money, so now I'm going to go to another person.
- [59:55]
Tara Electra
The problem is, is that the space is still new and we were the first agency in this space. And so there's no one that's been around for 10 years or 10 years, five years in this space. It's still new, but we've been around five years. But people are only just now coming into this industry. So the data and understanding, like basically what an infrastructure should look like behind a creator to be successful on these paywall platforms is still new. So a lot of these celebrities that are launching, they don't know who to go with. And there's random pop up agencies that are like, we can do it, we can do it. So it's kind of like the wild, wild west in this industry because it's been taboo. So it's not much.
- [60:34]
Heather McDonald
Now you're taking like, you know, people that already have a following that you can really like, get. But what if there is that person at home that's like pretty cute and attractive and down to like just see, hey, can I do something with this? And they don't have a big following and like, how would they start a following where it's worth it? Because it also takes a lot of time. I don't think people realize how much time it takes to get in the outfit, take the photos, make them look good, post it, write the captions, whatever it is, whether you're on Instagram or OnlyFans or whatever. And so what is your advice to them?
- [61:09]
Tara Electra
Well, what's interesting too is I've seen a lot of like moms that are like secretly on OnlyFans and their whole community doesn't know in their neighborhood and they're taking their kids to school, but they're secretly on OnlyFans because they don't promote it on their socials.
- [61:21]
Heather McDonald
Right.
- [61:21]
Tara Electra
So there's ways that you can do it like fully undercover, not put your real name. And what's cool about OnlyFans is there's no, like search discovery, they do that so that everyone has privacy. It's like you basically send a link just to yourself. But to do that, if you wanted to start out, you could go to Girls onlyfans and message them and be like, hey, I'll pay you to shout me out. And so you pay them to post about you. And you can get traffic like that without ever publicly showing anyone you have one. And so there's a huge market on OnlyFans that are secretly doing it because they are scared that people would judge them. But, yeah, it just depends. I always say that, like, any creator that wants to do it. I never push a creator or talent to do it. I'm like, it's your decision because you're going to have to live with the decision. If that's something you actually. I never want to sign anyone that's like, I don't know, I'm worried about this, this or this. I'm like, well, then don't do it until you feel confident.
- [62:14]
Heather McDonald
And what do they say? I'm worried about? What? Like, will I ever marry a nice doctor would. Yeah.
- [62:19]
Tara Electra
Or like, my parents would think? Or like, what if I want to have kids and now there's these photos out on the Internet. It's like, well, then you shouldn't do that content. You should only do what you're comfortable living with, being on the Internet. Because it is the Internet, right? You know?
- [62:31]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. And so what. What other, like, is it interesting to see when someone is like, I had, you know, Drea Di Mateo from Sopranos and she started joining. She joined like two years ago at 51, and she's, you know, hot and sexy and what a great following she has of the kind of hot. Her character was so appealing to such a broad audience, but of men. So it's like, oh, my God, I can see, you know, my favorite girl from Sopranos and do all the things. And she said, you know, like, it paid her mortgage within, like, hours of being on it or whatever it was. And so do you see an influx of, like, older actresses coming on?
- [63:19]
Tara Electra
Yes, I heard of another new actress that it's about to come on. Yeah, I do see it's an influx of that. I personally think it's because when you have a following on the Internet, you can't actually monetize it. Well, if you're a girl that has a male following, unless you're maybe doing TV or film, but, like, you're not gonna get brand deals. It's really hard. What are you gonna promote a male Product, like, because that's the only thing that your fans will buy. So the most businesses don't really want to work with you, so they don't know how to monetize. But they have this huge following and a ton of engagement so that you're the perfect person to start an OnlyFans.
- [63:51]
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
- [63:51]
Tara Electra
And so that makes sense why they're doing it. But I do see a lot of these celebrities launching and they're launching with bad teams and then they have a spike and then they go, Then we get them.
- [63:59]
Heather McDonald
Okay, so now let me ask you about this. What about all the stuff we hear about that was going on for the last 15 years? It might still be going on where the girls go on. They're yachty girls, they're Dubai, they're going on the Dubai trip.
- [64:14]
David Weintraub
That's a different.
- [64:15]
Heather McDonald
They're being invited.
- [64:16]
David Weintraub
That's totally different.
- [64:17]
Heather McDonald
I know that's different.
- [64:19]
David Weintraub
That's called prostitution.
- [64:21]
Heather McDonald
I know that's not what you guys do. No, but like, what is Tech entrepreneurship. Right, But I'm just saying, what, like we're just talking shit here. Like, what is.
- [64:31]
David Weintraub
We're talking serious.
- [64:31]
Heather McDonald
Your thought. Is there ever a she said thought?
- [64:35]
David Weintraub
What's her thought?
- [64:36]
Heather McDonald
Is there ever a safe way to be one of those girls that goes on the trip, gets the money, maybe gets the Air Mae bag and comes back without a humiliating, life changing story?
- [64:48]
Tara Electra
I don't really know that world that well, but I did grow up in la and I've had, I'm around a bunch of wealthy, successful men that have told me that they've seen very famous influencers and creators on something called the List. And the list has every. There's also very big celebrities on it. And the list has a price for how much you can pay to spend the night with this person. And there's some people that I've heard that are on it, that I'm like.
- [65:12]
Heather McDonald
Do you have this list?
- [65:13]
Tara Electra
I've never seen the list, but I've.
- [65:15]
Heather McDonald
Had wealthy, shot, successful men. And there's like shock. Like, I've heard that too. And it's like legit movie stars.
- [65:22]
Tara Electra
Yes, there's some, there's a lot of movie stars on it. There's some big top models that you would never ever think.
- [65:28]
David Weintraub
So this is like personal appearance to the next level. This is, that's like, that's prostitution. Personal appearance.
- [65:34]
Heather McDonald
It's the highest, it's the high, high, high expenses.
- [65:38]
Tara Electra
Yes, yes. So there's like. And supposedly, like, supposedly you have to, like, you have to be a very Successful vetted man to like get the list. I don't know.
- [65:48]
Heather McDonald
This is what I know that you're like, just like, if you're gonna show someone a house, it's like, I need to know that you have 10 million in the bank before I even take you to this house.
- [65:56]
Tara Electra
Yes.
- [65:56]
Heather McDonald
So it's like, yeah, you'd have to be vetted to know that you can pay this, that you're safe, that you're pre approval letter. Yeah, you need to prove you're financed.
- [66:03]
David Weintraub
Up to 10 million in Dubai boating with this person.
- [66:07]
Tara Electra
That's. I think that was the most shocking thing for me about being in LA and being in this industry is hearing that type of stuff like that there's powerful women that have done those types of things. And I think that as much as people want to shit on only fans, and trust me, most of the population does, it has brought in the power back to the females to be like, don't touch me, you're not going to see me in person. You can look at my photos that other girls are posting for free, but you better pay me for it. Like, it's kind of impossible.
- [66:34]
Heather McDonald
I think the difference is when I was talking about my fascination with, you know, porn stars who liked doing porn, you remember like back in the day, they would go to the, there'd be conventions and they'd sign things and they had products and the Jenna Jamesons. And then there was also this book that I was fascinated with which was you'll never make love in this town again. Which was the inspiration for my book, which is you'll never blue ball in this town again. But all the people I dated and didn't fuck. But it was this really juicy book that was basically about high class hookers in LA in the 90s that were either product of, you know, Heidi Fleiss, who was like the biggest, you know, and then the person that she kind of basically stole the black book from was this like other older lady. And the stories were like juicy, but they were tragic. Like they were not. There was not a happy ending to any of those stories. And it. And it's really kind of nice and refreshing to know that as a pretty girl you can. And not necessarily being a prostitute or anything, but you could use your looks. That is your gift. That is one of your gifts. That you are attractive, that you are desirable and that you can use it and be safe and write your own story and do it for as long as you want or do that thing of. It used to be that you had to be, oh, I'm just stripping till I get my medical degree. Like, all that kind of stuff that always existed, you know, now it's here and a lot and it's much better and safer and.
- [68:20]
Tara Electra
Yeah, and I think that when I was talking, because when we first started, there was not. Not one mainstream person on Only Fans. So I used to talk to the founder, a lot of OnlyFans. And I think that was the saddest thing that I saw him go through is how many people just ripped him apart in this company. Apart. When they've actually brought in so much safety to so many females and changed so many lives and helped so many people get out of debt, buy their family. Like, the amount of money that has been given to so many good people on the Internet, like, they're actually good creators. A lot of them care. It's just been. It's been really cool to see. And so that was, I know, like one of the biggest reasons he was like, it's a lot to handle. Like the press constantly trying to pick him apart. And, you know, it's a sexualized industry, so it's really easy to make you look bad in this industry. Very easy. And so I think there's a lot of people that hate watching these beautiful women make money with their looks. They hate it. They want to rip them apart. And so it's not an easy industry to be in.
- [69:20]
Heather McDonald
Do you have people that really kind of specialize in having the feet?
- [69:25]
Tara Electra
Like, what do you mean?
- [69:26]
Heather McDonald
Like how people say, oh, people would pay this much just for the feet?
- [69:30]
Tara Electra
Yeah. There's so many niches on the platform. It's wild. I mean, I don't really see them because I don't.
- [69:35]
Heather McDonald
What about. What about just what I call, like, just an armpit vagina? If I just do a long series of just like, hey.
- [69:45]
Tara Electra
That could work.
- [69:47]
Heather McDonald
And fabulous it is.
- [69:49]
David Weintraub
This is. She's more in the one percenter business of the only bandwidth.
- [69:53]
Heather McDonald
I would bring in new niches. I could either hang out with your wife and be funny all weekend for a price if you're rich enough. Or I could just take photos of this.
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David Weintraub
Should we do it? Should we do just for the audience and the fans? Should you have a test only fans page. Doesn't have to be porn. Doesn't have to be risque.
- [70:11]
Tara Electra
Yeah.
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David Weintraub
Let's just see what can be sold.
- [70:14]
Heather McDonald
It might be a fun example. I'm not like, afraid of anything like that.
- [70:20]
Tara Electra
I think that you would have women like Tana. She has a lot of women that they're talking to her all day and I feel like you're like a powerful female and girls would maybe just pay to just talk to you and ask you for advice.
- [70:31]
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
- [70:32]
David Weintraub
Because you have to reverse engineer what you're selling. You can use it as an outlet to answer questions, to get a shout out, to get sent a video. It has cameo elements to it too. So it's like, you want to buy this video of me saying this? Here it is. Now I can show everybody. Now I can do this. So it's taking this world and figuring out how do you create those businesses to sell to on a huge platform?
- [70:59]
Heather McDonald
And what about. Have you ever found it difficult for couples? Like, the girl starts to really do it and at first the guy is okay with it and then she's, you know, heartbroken because he's not. Which is like, fudge you, dude. Like, for sure.
- [71:17]
David Weintraub
Tough world out there.
- [71:17]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. If you can't enjoy the benefits of all of this. But have you ever had to like counsel a friend slash client in that?
- [71:25]
Tara Electra
Yes. I remember I had a girl come sit with me one time. She made like 150k a month and she sat me down and said her new relationship doesn't want her to have an onlyfans so she's going to delete it. And then I remember being like, okay, yeah, if you want to. I was like, okay, just make sure you know that you're going to be with this person. And she's like, no, I am. And then she deleted it. And then fast forward one year. He cheated on her.
- [71:48]
David Weintraub
Yeah.
- [71:48]
Tara Electra
And then she came to my office and said, that was the worst mistake I made.
- [71:51]
David Weintraub
And I was like, she's making 300,000.
- [71:53]
Heather McDonald
Did she come back? Did she come back?
- [71:56]
Tara Electra
We started her from scratch. That was really hard.
- [71:58]
Heather McDonald
I always, you know, that's the thing. It's like sometimes when people think with any kind of guy, I remember my friend being like, you know, even girls that like, think like, oh, I'll go for the guys. He's not the sexiest, he's not the hottest, but I'm so much cuter than he. Like, he'll be such a safe bet. He'll worship me forever. I'm like, then that guy is like, I can't believe I got this fabulous woman. I must really be the shit. And then they go and cheat. So there's go for the best. Go for the guy you're attracted to, the guy that has money, the guy that's worthy of you. Don't ever go below your standard. And think that that's gonna make you a more loyal partner. Because it's not.
- [72:36]
Tara Electra
I love that it was like, what they're saying is, like, if you settle for less than you deserve, you'll get exactly what you settled for.
- [72:43]
David Weintraub
Yeah, very true.
- [72:44]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, very true.
- [72:45]
David Weintraub
Very true.
- [72:45]
Heather McDonald
Well, I loved talking to you guys and tell everybody where they can follow you and find you and if they are interested, if there might be a possible connection where they should contact.
- [72:56]
Tara Electra
Yeah, we do more than only fans. We do brand deals, Snapchat, monetization, podcasting. We do so much. So my name is Tara Electra, so you can find me there. And our agency is called Unruly Agency.
- [73:08]
Heather McDonald
Yes.
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David Weintraub
And I am David Weintraub, Sir. David Weintraub on Instagram and @WTalent on Instagram. And I have my program if you are interested in embarking into becoming famous, becoming a star, making it in reality tv. And really I have done this for many years as an agent, a producer, the star of my own shows, a creator. And I teach you how to make it in Hollywood. You go to the Hollywood Handbook.com and take the course and you have direct access. You want to learn. Come on, let's go. Let's get that money.
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Heather McDonald
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