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Heather McDonald
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Guy Branham
I mean, I don't think.
Heather McDonald
I think I'm more Sky Branham, everybody.
Guy Branham
I'm more just straightforward daddy. I'm like. I'm like traditional daddy, you know? Yes.
Heather McDonald
But you also have dad traits because you, like, know how to do shit.
Guy Branham
Yeah, some things.
Heather McDonald
Yeah, it's nice to have. Yeah. No, you're. You know what I was thinking about? This is so embarrassing.
Guy Branham
What?
Heather McDonald
When we shared an office together.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
You were the first person this is embarrassing to tell me. This is how long ago it was when we worked at Chelsea lately. You're like, no, this is how you, like use Google and Safari to find all the stuff. I didn't really know how to do it. I was just like getting stories from the magazines or whatever and writing jokes and things. And I was like, oh, my God, I can just type in Julia Roberts, Kiefer Sutherland, and come up with everything.
Guy Branham
It's so funny because you and I were both sort of very much cultural repositories, people who were keeping these things on our brain. And it really was that moment when you started to be able to go to the Internet to verify this thing that I remember, but also started losing all of that amazing memory that we had to keep going. But it really was. What a beautiful three years we spent together.
Heather McDonald
Yes. And you've really grown up in so many ways. So tell us about the latest award that you got for writing.
Guy Branham
So I got a writer's guild award last week, two weeks ago before that, because I was a producer on hacks. A writer and producer on hacks. And so we've really been doing very well this season after, you know, the bear was winning everything. And so I assumed, oh, we'll get these nominations. That will be nice. But then we won at the Emmys. We won at the Golden Globes. I still have not received my Golden Globe it was so.
Heather McDonald
Wait, so you have an Emmy? A writer's guild?
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
A Golden Globe is in the mail.
Guy Branham
A Golden Globe is in the mail. I don't know if I'm getting a critics choice Award.
Heather McDonald
Oh, my God. And then are you. I know you always have so many projects, but are you back in the hacks producing, or have you left the show?
Guy Branham
No, no, no. I'm not on the show anymore on season four. Budgets are just getting smaller across entertainment now, and so they had to reduce the size of the writers room, which was really frustrating. But it's hard to be frustrated when you keep getting awards.
Heather McDonald
What a great attitude. And you know what? Life's rejection is God's protection. And if you were, you know, and if you were stuck in that writer's room, an opportunity or two that might be your own thing might not have been able to happen because you would be spread too thin.
Guy Branham
It is like. It is such an evolving Guy Branham.
Heather McDonald
You're gonna be our next Mike White. You already are in your own thing. People will say, you're gonna be the next Guy Branham. That's what they're gonna say, kids, soon.
Guy Branham
You're very kind, but it's also like, it is such an evolving industry that I am so impressed by people like you who have been able to say, things are changing. I'm going to be part of that change. And made an empire for yourself. And you see other people who, through TikTok or whatever means, are doing it. And I think, especially as we get older. I remember this guy. You probably don't remember him, but his name is Jason Nash.
Heather McDonald
Yes, I know Jason Nash. Jason Nash, though. I want to tell you just to go back. Remember. Oh, this is a good one. You were supposed to have a pilot with Ross Matthews that was going to, like, Chelsea had a deal to do different E shows, and you guys had it, and then they decided that they didn't want you. They didn't tell you in a nice way.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Wasn't it like, we shared an office together and then they called you in. And then they called me in, and they said they think it'd be better if he was paired with a woman.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And so then I got paired with Ross.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And then I had two weeks to help with this to do this pilot, and they said you could have two writers.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And Jen Kirkman had left the show to work on a sitcom, and I wrote her, and I go, do you know anybody? She goes, wait, I'm free. I'd like to do it. I go, well, then do you know a second person? And she brought on Jason Nash.
Guy Branham
Oh, that's so funny.
Heather McDonald
And he worked on the pilot, but then it didn't go. And then the same people that were sensitive, a little insensitive to you called me in.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And said, the show is not going. The Ross and Heather show is not going. Because you tested so poorly with the focus groups that they just want to give Ross his own show.
Guy Branham
Well, first of all, the hilarious thing is, is that anything that was considered a horrible failure back then would now be the biggest hit on television. Everything gets a 0.5. And Jason Nash, like, after that, made himself into a Vine star back when there was vine as a guy in his mid-30s with all of these 20 year olds. And I was like, that's so impressive. And seeing people now who just figure out how to. Have I talked to you about the orthodox Jewish woman who's huge on TikTok. Do you follow her, everyone? Her name is Miriam Izagwi. You have to follow her on TikTok. Our children are adorable. And it is just so crazy that, like, half the people I know just follow this woman who does videos of. Here's all the kosher food I eat today.
Heather McDonald
Oh, well, that's good. Yeah. Yes, everybody. Yeah, it's an exciting time, but you have exciting stuff. So let's get into some juicy news. Bravo news. This is Real Housewives of Potomac and Karen Huger, who calls herself the Grand Dame. And she's been married to this guy forever. She's 61 years old. In March of 2024, she got in a car accident. She drove into a tree. She was by herself. She was not that. Not really injured. The cops came. Her husband came. She was arrested for driving under the influence. So throughout the filming, she claims that she's innocent. It's all gonna work out. She can't talk about it. And then she also. We don't really see her drink that much, but she also doesn't say that she has a drinking problem. So then right when she gets sentenced, it's right before the reunion, and she decided not to do a plea. She did not go to rehab. She said, I insist on a trial. She had a trial in which then we saw the. After the trial was done, then they released the police cam videos. And she's in very wasted. And she's telling the cop, don't you know who I am? Don't you know who Andy Cohen is? And then she goes, and I'm Thomas.
Guy Branham
That's full Reese witherspoon Yeah.
Heather McDonald
She goes, and I'm Thomas Jefferson's concubine. She has beyond wasted. And she's like, well, I'm wasted. So then she, they, they convict her for the DUI. Also, she had three other DUIs. Two, 2006 was one a 2011. And then there was one that was like a little bit diminished, but still like a dui. So then, so today she got sentenced and she got two years suspended, meaning she does one year in prison and one year like probation, whatever. And she has, she went off to prison. They like put the handcuffs on her, and now she has like 30 days to try to fight it or appeal it. So I called Shannon and Michael Goldstein, my sister and brother in law, about it. And this is where, you know, I don't, I don't know if it's her entitlement or bad advice from the attorney. But the first thing Shannon said was she should have gone to rehab the minute she got released from prison, and she should have done a plea deal with those previous things, but she didn't do either. She insisted on the trial and she didn't go to the rehab until after she was sentenced, in which then she also didn't go to the reunion. Skip the reunion. So there you go, Juicy.
Guy Branham
Okay, first of all, I think the minute that happens, you become the national spokesperson for petit mal seizures. Like, you just claim that you have some sort of disorder that made it happen. You become a spokesperson and do a lot of good so that they're like, oh, well, you know, you don't let anyone see that footage. Does it make you sad that we no longer live in an age of TV movies where when like a grand lady goes off to be in prison for a year, we don't get Cybill shepherd playing her in, you know, prison. Like, it's.
Heather McDonald
You're right, it would be. Well, look, I know there is going to be some great scripted movie soon that involves a real housewife story or fake, you know, like a.
Guy Branham
We haven't had any sort of movies that are set in that world is fascinating to me. I realize it's a hard world to script, but I feel like there are enough iterations of it now that you could do something good with it.
Heather McDonald
Well, couple things. One is her defense of, like, why she shouldn't do time just to. Or to mitigate why she made this poor decision of driving intoxicated. She said she was still reeling from the death of her two parents. One died in 2017 and the other one died seven months later in 2018. And the accident happened in 2024, and she's 61, so I'm sorry, I don't think that applies. She also said she was taking antidepressants, which she was. Was prescribed to her when she had a sexual assault happen when she was in college.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And so she was still reeling from that and the death of her parents, and then she upped it. Then she said, I had to up my prescription to two antidepressants because I have so much responsibility as being a the Grand Dom of Potomac.
Guy Branham
I mean, none of this changes the fact that there's Uber on your phone.
Heather McDonald
Exactly. Well, then the. So then the judge or the prosecutor said, you've had these other DUIs, so I don't doubt that you've probably driven drunk who knows how many more times and just didn't get caught. If you got caught four times in the last 15 years, how many times were you just rolling the dice?
Guy Branham
Do you think that being on a Real Housewives show pushes people towards alcoholism? There is so much liquor lubricating the interactions there. Do you think it is something that Bravo needs to look at?
Heather McDonald
Well, I definitely think that you get people who are fun personalities or not, and they're not actors, and they can drink and eat, and they're supposed to be themselves. And if you're really being a reality star, you would have an alcoholic drink at a Fourth of July party. You would have. For me, when I am on camera, obviously, I'm never drinking, but when I do stand up, I'm never drinking. So it's like. But I'm not nervous about being in front of the camera. So, yeah, I think they pick people who like to drink a little bit, and then you add on, oh, my God, we're filming, and I want to drink, and I want to get through this. And so, yes, for certain people, it's obviously not a good thing.
Guy Branham
Carol Radswell saying her hard policy of never more than one drink when we're shooting seemed really, really smart to me, like, to be in control of who you are.
Heather McDonald
Lisa Vanderpump was, too. She'd always be like, I'll have a. Or she'd sip on it. I never. We've never seen her buzzed ever.
Guy Branham
But they're both such controlled personalities. And it is, like, for some of these people, you know, like, you want Sonia a couple of drinks.
Heather McDonald
But then some people said it got too much. Like, she's become almost like a caricature of herself.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And. Yeah. So, but we got to see that footage and everything Cause of the trial. And once the trial was done, they showed the police footage before that, they never saw it. And what's interesting is that Shannon Beador, who also got a DUI in Newport, she is a housewife. She was driving and crashed into like a house. Nobody was hurt. Then she got out of the car and walked away with the dog with blood coming down her face so that she could like, maybe not get caught. And they caught her. And she has totally, right from the start, accepted responsibility. Not. She never said she's an alcoholic and she's never said that she can't drink. And we've seen her drink throughout the season. But she got the good lawyer. We've never seen a mugshot.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And we never saw the police cam footage. And I think it's because whatever the precautions she took with that attorney protected her.
Guy Branham
It's an opposite skill set to Real Housewives. Like Real Housewives is about never admitting you're wrong and just sort of attack, attack, attack.
Heather McDonald
Right.
Guy Branham
And it's like in this situation, they need to have somebody there who can say, like, just go to rehab. You know, just.
Heather McDonald
Right. But these people just don't want to admit that they, like, have an issue. I mean, yeah, I mean, right away I'd be like, I'm going to rehab for sure. Like most people do. And most people would take the advice of their attorneys, you know, but she's so like her whole personality, which is so good for Housewives, is that she believes she is so above everybody. She's so entitled and like, has no self awareness. So that's that. So we'll see what happens with her. Looking for a weight loss solution that actually works. Weight loss by hers provides access to GLP1 medications with personalized care to help you hit your goals. HERS is transforming women's healthcare by providing access to affordable weight loss treatment plans delivered straight to your door if prescribed. HERS offers a holistic weight loss program with personalized solutions including compounded GLP1s weekly injections featuring the same active ingredients as Ozempic and Wegovy or oral medication kits. If you've been struggling with your weight loss journey, it is time for you to find the best solution for you. Get on it. Feel better. It's so simple, so easy. Start your initial free online Visit today@fourhers.com JuiceMyScoop that's f o r h e r s.com Juicy Scoop for your personalized weight loss treatment options for hers.com JuiceScoop hers weight loss is not available everywhere. Compounded products are not FDA approved or verified for safety, effectiveness or quality. Prescription required restrictions apply. WeGovy and Ozempic are not compounded. Actual price depends on product and plan purchased. For me, getting a great night's sleep means putting away the phone, turning off the tv, reading an actual book, having a little bit of water by my bed, making sure it's dark. But the best thing is my sheets. And that's why if you really want to change the way you sleep, you need to upgrade to bowl and branch 100% organic cotton sheets. Oh my God I love these sheets. You will fall asleep faster with a luxurious softness that puts you in instant relaxation mode. You'll spend every night in buttery, breathable comfort and feel your sheets get softer with every wash. Discover the difference with Bolen Branch 30 Night Guarantee. Think about it. You spend about a third of your life in bed. Why are you not having the best sheets possible? You deserve it. Now's your chance to change the way you sleep with bowl and Branch. Get 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bowlandbranch.com juicy scoop that's BolendBranch B O L L A N D branch.com juicy scoop to save 15% exclusions apply. See site for details when it comes to cooking and eating, I've got a problem. The one is I don't have any food in my fridge because I hate going to the grocery store because I buy the stuff and then Peter complains that why did I buy all this? Make nothing with it and then we throw it away. Okay, we don't like to be wasteful but I do like to cook it. I want to eat healthy and that's why I love Hungryroot and I just made the best lemon pepper chicken dish with this cilantro lime rice. It was delicious, it was flavorful and it was so easy. So Hungerroot is like having your personal nutritionalist. They take care of the stressful meal planning each week by recommending delicious recipes tailored to your taste, nutrition preferences and health goals. It's high quality, it's flavorful, from anti inflammatory to gut friendly, gluten free or dairy free, high protein and more. You can choose them all. So easy. So delicious. You're going to love Hunger Root as much as I do. Take advantage of this exclusive offer from For a limited time, get 40% off your first box plus get a free item in every box for life. Go to hungryroot.com juicyscoop and use code juicyscoop that's hungryroot.com juicysCoop code juicy scoop to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your Choice for Life. Hungryroot.com JuiceScoop Code JuiceScoop the Baldwins has premiered on TLC and. And you know, TLC is a network that features people with a lot of kids. This is Kate plus eight. This is sex tuplets or whatever. Whatever. My 18 daughters. The little people that have a lot of other little people. So there are.
Guy Branham
He's the one where Hilaria was pregnant and they were baking another one in another womb at the same time, right?
Heather McDonald
Yes. There was something that happened. They have seven kids. There was something that happened where I. I want to say she. Yes, she did a surrogacy and then found out she was pregnant too. So they were like three months apart. And of course, she's known for lying about being from Spain. Yes, they address it, first of all. They address the horrible killing of Helena and say, it was the worst thing we went through and the kids are aware of it and all of this. And he's like, it really changed my life. Now, Pio, the first thing you're going is, why are they doing this TV show? Well, I think this is the greatest PSA to show men over 50 why you might not want to start over again. Because he looks so fucking tired. He's 66 years old. He's going to be 67 in April. Has seven kids from like 12 to under one. And. And the bags, I'm sure he'll get fixed after he sees this season. But, like, the bags under his eyes, it's so exhausting. They don't seem into each other at all. He's deathly allergic to cats and she's bought four and throws them in a car that he's supposed to travel in. What the fuck? I know. And then he goes, I like you best when you're sleeping. Like, just shut the fuck up. And then he even. And then she starts talking and he goes, you're speaking in English, but Drew with a Spanish accent, which is very difficult for me. Like, they literally now talk about the fact. And she goes, yes, it happened. You know, I love speaking Spanish, I love speaking English, and sometimes I just mix the most. And I want my kids to be bilingual. Some people think that's strange. I think that's very normal. And so then she'll be like, you know, talk to the kid in Spanish. And then she's like, as hell. I got, you know, talks normal. Just says, and now my family, they all live in Spain. But they weren't from Spain. They're from Boston.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And she just kind of gets past that. But I think it's going to be a hit because it is like, I can't believe he's exposing all his kids to being on camera. I think they need the money.
Guy Branham
So many of those basic cable networks are now just. MTV is just ridiculousness all day long. It's just the same thing all day long. And I miss that kind of television production. That kind of stuff makes me happy that it exists. I actually worked with him on a show, like, three years ago. It was him and Kelsey Grammer, the showrunner of Modern Family, just sort of like a.
Heather McDonald
What was it about?
Guy Branham
It was basically like, male Golden Girls. It was like three older guys who lived together. Great premise. And, like, he and Kelsey Grammer were both sort of like, going back to television because they had so many kids that they needed the money. But the one thing was, was that he had this western that he was really into, and we were gonna have to stop down during the summer. And then the show ended up, like, not going.
Heather McDonald
So you guys filmed the pilot, but the pilot didn't get picked up?
Guy Branham
Well, it had already been picked up to series, but after the pilot, the studio was like, we don't wanna do this.
Heather McDonald
Well, because you were waiting. It was gonna go. And then the horrible accident happened.
Guy Branham
I mean, it was complex, but, yes, that happened. But he and Kelsey Grammer were both the best and so wonderful. And you remember Alec Mappa, don't you?
Heather McDonald
That name is so familiar.
Guy Branham
He's a comic. He's good.
Heather McDonald
Yes, yes. Yeah, he was in it, too.
Guy Branham
He was the third one. And so it was, like, really, really great, and it was a pleasure to work with. But it was so funny that this weird scheduling thing that we knew about then turned out to be, you know, Rust.
Heather McDonald
Right. And then. Yeah. Kelsey Grammer has, you know, Camille Grammer and two grown kids. He's his ex wife. And then he got her on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills so he could pursue this other girl that he met in New York while he's doing a play. And then he had a couple kids with her.
Guy Branham
He has more than two grown kids because.
Heather McDonald
Oh, he has other grown kids from before Camille. Then he's got now, like, college age with Camille.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And then he's got, like, elementary with the last one.
Guy Branham
But I mean, to me, like, it's amazing that after all of his film work and 30 Rock, he is like, I need to bring the bacon in. But also that's a lot of kids like it does, you know, I mean, I can understand. Is menopause so bad, like having nature be like, not now like Mary.
Heather McDonald
So she said, okay, so they're 26 years apart. And she said she met him when he was 53 and you know, he still looked real hot at 53. Of course, this is what I tell girls about dating older guys. When you are, you know, 30 and he's 50, those guys still want to go to Vegas. They still want to party, they still want to hang out with your friends in Cabo. They're still down once they get to closer to 60. Yeah, they don't want to do shit. And now you're barely 40 and it's not a great combo because you're at. And like a 40 year old today, woman that's put together like her is like a 25 year old.
Guy Branham
You have one boutique child with that man.
Heather McDonald
You have, you have one anchor baby.
Guy Branham
You have one baron and that's it.
Heather McDonald
You have one anchor baby to just lock it down.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And he said to her, though, I definitely want to have more kids. You, you know, he had with what's her name? What's his first wife's name?
Guy Branham
Oh, Kim Basinger.
Heather McDonald
Kim Basinger. He had Ireland with. And I remember when they were going through the separation, Ireland was about eight and the three of them were at a play place called under the Sea. And my friend's kid was there and she goes, get over here. Like they are at. And so I observed and he was very engaged in playing with her and everything. And I remember Ireland being like, but why can't he come home with us, mom? Oh, I know. So then, so then do you think.
Guy Branham
This is his natural Irish Catholicness? Do you think so?
Heather McDonald
Yeah. Cause he said, his brother said, oh, you know, he used to make fun of me when I was on my third and fourth kid going, what are you, dad? Because they're a family of six. And the four famous brothers act. But I guess there's two more.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Or two more sisters. I don't know. They're a family of six.
Guy Branham
It's two sisters, I think.
Heather McDonald
Yeah. And so he's like. So I think it's funny now that he has seven. And so she's like, we're trying to go to the Hamptons. And so I have, you know, I have to do all the cars because I have the seven kids, the eight pets, four cats, four dogs, two nannies. And then he's like, well, can the boys drive with me? And she's like, no, they can't.
Guy Branham
You wanna know what I think is a fascinating dynamic when you have mixed families who have very disparate inheritance situations. Because I was thinking about, like, Ireland, like, she's gonna get all of her mom's money, where these kids are gonna have to split things up. And the thing I think is most fascinating was Julia Louis Dreyfus having those half siblings who aren't billionaires.
Heather McDonald
A lot of people don't know that Julia Louis Dreyfuss is. Came from extreme wealth. Right?
Guy Branham
Yes. She's the most talented person in the world.
Heather McDonald
No, I know.
Guy Branham
No one's questioning it.
Heather McDonald
No.
Guy Branham
But her dad's a bit like a straight up French billionaire. And she has a sister who's also an actress but who's dad is not a billionaire. And I'm always like, that was probably weird.
Heather McDonald
So that was the blonde actress.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Okay. So when I did an episode of the show Watching Ellie, which was right after Seinfeld, but before the Old Christine.
Guy Branham
Yes, but she still won an Emmy for it. She still.
Heather McDonald
And her husband. And it was her husband's idea. So each episode you'd be watching it the entire 22 minutes. So that was kind of the niche of it. I kind of think it was ahead of its time.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
So. But anyway, I did one episode. She was beyond lovely. And that's when I learned that, oh, this girl who plays her friend is actually her half sister. This blonde girl.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And, you know, so down to earth, so lovely. I remember the little boys coming in and with like, the perfect little face. Like, one was like four. They were so cute. So. Yeah. But yeah, that is interesting.
Guy Branham
It will be interesting for these kids if you know what happens when you have a super famous dad who, you know.
Heather McDonald
Well, when all the shit went down with this, with people making fun of and. How do you say cucumber? And her absolutely lying about being, like, in numerous interviews, acting like English as a second language. Acting like she's from Spain. He even would do interviews and say, you know, my wife's Spanish. And he would do the accent. They were basically just both acting like Sofia Vergara, like, 100%. I don't think he ever knew. I think, oh, wow. I don't think he ever asked to look at her yearbook. I don't think he ever asked. I think he fell in love with her. She said they got married very fast, got pregnant very fast. I don't think he knew the truth until someone went on that deep dive and put it on Twitter.
Guy Branham
I love a Good swindle. I love a good fabulist. I love any kind of talented Mr. Ripley situation.
Heather McDonald
Grifters. Yeah, I love a grift and. But I remember the minute that whole thing broke, Ireland was very sweet about her stepmom.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
She was like, she's the most lovely person I know. Like, fuck you guys. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, of course, she even made fun of the little pig thing, like when he called his daughter on the answering machine a little pig. And, you know, I think that was because she was 13, it was his weekend, and she wanted to be with her friends or whatever. And he took it real sensitive, left that message. Kim released it, and. But now he is the most exhausted man ever. He is coming off the. I was reading all the comments, and he is like. He is coming off as the likable one, and she's becoming off kind of like an evil with the cats. I can't imagine. I think having the cats if your husband was severely allergic.
Guy Branham
That is insane. I think this is really good rehabilitation for him, just because, like, the rust thing is rough. He is the person who pulled the trigger on a gun that killed someone. And being able to see that, you know, as a situation that he's not culpable for is really hard. And I think he has so much goodwill from the past that he really does need. And there have been so many people who we just. Who people have said, like, I just don't want to work with him anymore. That kind of thing. And I think people are uncertain about how they should approach Alec Baldwin. And I think.
Heather McDonald
But when you worked with him, he was a delight.
Guy Branham
He was a delight. Both of them were pros. I was always like, until the first Emmy nominations come and somebody gets snubbed, then things will get. You know, it was one of those where. I'm sure once the show was successful, they would have been miserable, but they were, like, consummate professionals.
Heather McDonald
When I did my episode of Frasier, Yes, A lot about me today, I remember I was, like, in this small room because they filmed it at Paramount and on one of the lucky stages, which was where Cheers was. And I want to say even like, I Love Lucy.
Guy Branham
Okay.
Heather McDonald
It was like, so we're in this room that honestly is not bigger than this, and they're all sitting around.
Guy Branham
Oh. Cause they have the little room where they would all sit together.
Heather McDonald
Yeah, they would all sit together. And they're, like, all talking about, like, oh, what are you doing this weekend? And, oh, you should try this restaurant. And they're just Talking to each other. And they're including me, the one. And I'm on a very small part for the guest week and I'm like, so, like, where do do you guys. Where's your dressing rooms? And they're like, oh, no, we don't use those till tape day. We just hang out here. And I'm like, that's what, that's the reason these shows, like Friends. That's one of these reasons. And why even reality shows of the more popular, you know, like the original Roni and stuff, because those women were real friends and they did talk when they weren't filming. And like, but even with a scripted show, my God, you get people that actually want to hang out, right? And it was like. And he was a total delight. And Camille was a total delight. Yeah, like, they were so nice. So it's just. Yeah, I'm not surprised. But. But I want to say, like, I don't blame him for doing this, obviously. Maybe he's like, look, I don't want to go do all these movies anymore. How can I actually be at home with my kids? My wife wants to do this. We're going to be honest about the fake Spanish. We're going to be honest about the horrible tragedy. I mean, the kids are running around, it's a little chaotic to watch, and the kids are going to be exposed and talked about. But I don't know.
Guy Branham
His strength always comes from back when he was the hottest 30 year old imaginable to now, like, charming Irish bastard. And I think the more you get to see him, the more you love him. And I do think that he has one of those careers that at 65 and beyond, could blossom again in a new way because he is just that lovable.
Heather McDonald
Well, there's a comedian that does a Trump impression that recently and like TMZ picked it up. He was getting out of the car, like in front of his house.
Guy Branham
Is it Anthony Antimonyuk?
Heather McDonald
No, his name is like Jason somebody.
Guy Branham
Okay.
Heather McDonald
And so he's talking to him, being Trump while he's getting his bags out. But then he goes and brings up the shooting and everything. And I was like, most of the comments and then he got mad. Then he's like, turns around and Alex is like, I'm gonna fucking like break you in half. Which is all being filmed and everything. So TMZ picked it up, but I think the most, the consensus was just like, you can do a funny impression, you can do all that stuff, but like invading someone's face as they're getting their Bags out. And I didn't agree with it.
Guy Branham
Most of the tiktokers are terrible. Did you hear about that girl who was peeing in a supermarket who got arrested?
Heather McDonald
But wait, tell that story.
Guy Branham
Oh, I don't. It was just a tiktoker. All of these.
Heather McDonald
No. They said they found videos, that she's been doing it for a long time. It wasn't a one time peeing at the supermarket where she worked on the food.
Guy Branham
My joke is that pranks are just crimes committed by heterosexual Caucasians. Teenagers, like, pranks are just. I broke a law, but ha ha, I was joking. But Alec Baldwin, famously. There was an LA comic who accused Alec Baldwin of just straight up stealing his impression.
Heather McDonald
Impression of what?
Guy Branham
Of Trump. Of like he saw Anthony do Trump and he picked up the ticks and that kind of thing.
Heather McDonald
And he sued him.
Guy Branham
He didn't sue him. He was just like, that's not okay.
Heather McDonald
Okay. That's ridiculous. To me. That's ridiculous because I feel like an impression. Nobody owns an impression. I believe that people. I remember, even I think it was Dana Carvey said the best way to do an impression. Sometimes my best impressions are that I've seen someone else do an impression and I go, oh. And they. And then they do see that.
Guy Branham
Oh, that's interesting.
Heather McDonald
I mean, if you see it, you see it and then you do your own thing or like all of a sudden you see somebody and you're like, oh, I never thought of doing that person. But they do do that weird thing. And I know that people, like, people have been like, oh, because of your Jennifer Aniston. Now I do Jennifer Aniston. And I'm like, well, you probably shouldn't tell me that, but whatever, go ahead, do your thing. Like you can't get mad at it. But I think that's a pretty far stretch.
Guy Branham
I don't know.
Heather McDonald
Okay, so you're on the guy's side.
Guy Branham
I'm on his side.
Heather McDonald
Okay, that's fine.
Guy Branham
But it's also not my style of comedy. You know, Like, I just, I respect impressionists so much because I feel like watching you see somebody and clock them, it required such a subtlety of seeing someone that I really respected it.
Heather McDonald
I think that the genius of it, as far as a comedian, not when you're just doing it in a script, is who's saying the most dead on funny stuff as the character with the point of view of the character. And that's something I think I do really well. There's probably other people that do some of the same Impressions I do that I don't think are as good because I don't think they can write as funny of stuff.
Guy Branham
You've seen James Ajomian do Bernie Sanders, haven't you?
Heather McDonald
Bernie Sanders, Yes.
Guy Branham
He does the best Bernie Sanders. And it is just like his joke is the top 1% to the 7%. And now every time I see Bernie Sanders, it's not just the voice of the mannerisms. It is understanding what's ridiculous about the context.
Heather McDonald
Right. Yeah. And what would be his point of view on anything? But anyway, I mean, I have strong feelings about featuring kids this much. And the Housewives kids are barely featured anymore.
Guy Branham
I love when there are clear legal issues around who. I love that Sonya's daughter we couldn't see until after she turned 18 and was able to consent on her own because the billionaire wouldn't have allowed it. Watching Portia grow up on Beverly Hills was, like, amazing and, like, so sweet. But I understand not wanting your kids there. And with TikTokers and with YouTubers, I do think it is so interesting because some people, it seems so sweet. I love watching tiktoks of kids because I think kids are the funniest, but there is just the weirdness of, like.
Heather McDonald
So there's different rules. So this being a reality show, I don't know if they're being paid or if the parents are choosing to pay them out of their salary. On Housewives, only, the wife gets the money. The husband doesn't get paid. If the kids are over 18 and they're interesting enough, they can go ahead and maybe negotiate their own thing like Vicki Goldmanson's daughter did.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
So. And now there's new laws, California state being one of them, that if you make money off of social media and your kids are featured, you have to pay them. Oh, so there are people are doing deep dives of some of their favorite YouTube families that are all moving.
Guy Branham
Oh, wow.
Heather McDonald
And they are moving to certain states that that law is not there.
Guy Branham
Well, I mean, then they can get some cows and make butter like trad.
Heather McDonald
Wife'S, you know, I mean, I don't know, but, like, that's the thought. And okay. Also, a new reality show is Denise Richards is coming back. I feel like this photo is very much reminiscent of the first season of the Kardashians.
Guy Branham
Oh, that's interesting.
Heather McDonald
And all of them framed in a photo. And then below they have pajama pants on the. The first season of Kardashians, they were all doing, like, doing dressing. And then the curtain fell and it Was like, their house, like. And then it was like, oh, like you're not seeing. So it very feels. And they. They're asking for stuff like this 2000 stuff.
Guy Branham
I think Denise is an amazing housewife. I think this will be a boring show. I think she is best when reacting to the ridiculousness of other housewives. I just don't trust that this.
Heather McDonald
Like, when Dorit was like, I think your jacket's backwards.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Like, I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing, Dorit. It's not nice. Okay. Yeah.
Guy Branham
I mean, that actually makes me change my opinion. That does remind me that she's very ridiculous.
Heather McDonald
I've heard this is good.
Guy Branham
Oh, really?
Heather McDonald
I've heard it's good.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
So we'll see. So they got the one daughter who's made over $3 million on OnlyFans. Jesus, and then the other one is very Christian.
Guy Branham
How many of them belong to Charli?
Heather McDonald
Just the two blondes. And then brunette is a daughter she adopted on her own who has disabilities but is gonna be in the show as well.
Guy Branham
And who's the man?
Heather McDonald
The man is her second husband, Aaron, and he was featured on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and he seemed to have kind of like a version of a Reiki, kind of like, lay in this weird machine. And then we test the energy. And that's how she met him. And then when people would ask about the business, I don't know that the business still exists.
Guy Branham
I do think that figuring out how to make TV of the kind that we loved in the 2000s, that's what they're trying to do, and letting that live on streaming, finding the right way for it to live on streaming is so interesting. And I think part of the problem is don't make fucking eight episodes. Like, how can you make 20 as.
Heather McDonald
A producer, that's what you would do. Make 20?
Guy Branham
Yes. Because people want stuff that they can turn on, and it just keeps going.
Heather McDonald
And suck you in. Yeah.
Guy Branham
Yes. They don't need it to have the most interesting of arcs.
Heather McDonald
And you just want to watch this family. You just want to get in their house and see their, like. I think that's why the Kardashians in the beginning didn't really have, like, big, dramatic storylines. We were just really fascinated by just seeing them be true sisters. Like, you fucking took my genius and all that kind of stuff that we had never seen. And now I feel like the new Kardashians they are, in my opinion, it sounds like, from what I've seen, they are Sort of creating, like, housewife moments between the sisters. We're not getting along. Da da, da, da when they do. And they do great as a family. But at a certain point, yeah, you've gotta be like, how are we gonna fill the 10 episodes this season for Hulu? What are we gonna be doing if our lives are pretty chill, you know?
Guy Branham
Right. And I think, you know, the show always had strong elements of scripting. You know, like, back in the day, it was just sort of like light domestic comedy. And it was nice. But those producers do real work, right?
Heather McDonald
Oh, yeah, definitely. Okay, so this is very sad. Michelle Trachtenberg has passed, and she was on Gossip Girl, and the Buffy reboot.
Guy Branham
Was just about to happen, and she famously.
Heather McDonald
Was she in it?
Guy Branham
Yes. She just, like, appeared in season five. Buffy had a younger sister from out of nowhere, and a bunch of people hated her. I loved her, but it was. I mean, to me, it is almost like metaphysical that this character who, like, was manifested into reality for the show disappeared just before the show came back.
Heather McDonald
I did not watch Gossip Girl, so I don't know how big her role was or, like, if Blake Lively, you know, worked with her or Blake Lively will speak up about it. What I find really sad about this and quite shocking is she's only 39.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And she had a liver transplant because she had so many complications or litter liver due to alcoholism.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And they said then she was just at dinner last week at some place in soho, and then they found her unresponsive and she died from complications of the transplant. And I think this is a real lesson that you could actually be this ill from alcoholism at only 39. That's just. I mean, so maybe, you know, God, Horrible.
Guy Branham
It's really rough. And it is the unfortunate truth. I asked a friend who was a producer on one of the shows that, to me, has dealt best with child actors. Like a show where several of the leads had been child actors. One of the leads you worked with very closely in your past, you can't say. I mean, it was Tracee Ellis Ross. It was Blackish. And I asked one of the producers that I am friends with.
Heather McDonald
Oh, those kids on Black is. Yeah, yeah.
Guy Branham
I was like, what's the right way of doing it? You guys did it so right. And she was just like, it should all be AI. Like, there's no way of having children in that environment.
Heather McDonald
She really said that?
Guy Branham
Yeah. Like. And I do just think.
Heather McDonald
I mean, that's what Corey Feldman told me years ago.
Guy Branham
Yeah. And those children are all successes in doing well, but I just think it is really hard for kids to grow up.
Heather McDonald
Well, that's why the YouTube families and like, the Ruby Frank. That Ruby Frank was the Mormon mom that just got convicted for severe child abuse. And she had a huge following, and she had six kids. And the Ruby Frank doc comes out Thursday, today. Cause this week, and I interviewed a woman, which I will feature that interview on next week, who is a journalist who has interviewed all these former children of, like, YouTube stars. And how they will. They'll. They'll say, well, if you don't want to talk about how you got your period for the first time today, then I guess we're not going to Disneyland and you want to tell your little brothers and sisters we have to move out of the house. Like, there's numerous stories about that. And so. And when I interviewed Corey Feldman years ago, he said the same thing. No child should be a child actor. And I was like, now, this was like eight years ago that he was on my show. And I was like, well, what are we supposed to do? I mean, stories require sometimes kids to tell the proper story. And I wonder if that might. I mean, we have the capability to do it, but I don't want to get rid of actors. But you never know, like, where it might take us.
Guy Branham
And he is. And there are also things of, like, you look at so many successes, like, oh, I was just talking to a makeup lady who was talking about working with Brie Larson when she was so young and how amazing she was and look and where she's gone. And you have people like that. Or Timothee Chalamet who started.
Heather McDonald
Ron Howard is really the poster child.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Yeah, but it's.
Guy Branham
Yeah, this is very sad.
Heather McDonald
So this is very sad. So just some updates on the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. Now, you have not been on Juicy's Cube to discuss this.
Guy Branham
No.
Heather McDonald
So I want to just get your thoughts before I give the few updates that have happened since my last show.
Guy Branham
I don't fully understand what's going on. I know that for some reason I'm supposed to hate all of these people.
Heather McDonald
Who was telling you to hate all these people?
Guy Branham
People I was at a dinner party with on last Friday. And then just before.
Heather McDonald
And what was the sentiment? That's like, oh, shut up already.
Guy Branham
It was sort of like, so these are Hollywood people. Justin Baldoni seems really cringe and annoying. And also we are inclined, you know, we should believe women. But also it turns out that I guess, like, the New York Times posted texts from Blake Lively where they had left out things that clearly indicated that they were jokes and stuff like that. I don't fully understand it.
Heather McDonald
I don't like anybody that's like, you know, I'm just sick of this story. So therefore, shut up defending yourself. Yeah, so I, you know, when it first came out, I was totally believed. Blake Lively. I remember hearing bad stuff about her. I believe that maybe there was a smear campaign. He has brought the receipts and he is not stopping. And more and more and more thanks to the world we live in. And you know, Internet journalists that can do their own. They have told on themselves, Ryan and Blake so many times in so many interviews in the last 10 years. Blake, Ryan Reynolds, you know, he did this whole character called Nice Pool that was featured in the Last Deadpool, which is clearly making fun of Justin Baldoni. But the timeline of him creating that character was like, you're making fun of this person that supposedly was harassing your wife. Like, it just doesn't seem real. There's so much that I've discussed that I don't want to get all back into because I don't want to bore my audience. But the latest is there is a scene where they're doing a montage of a make out, kind of like a light make out dancing scene. And he released it. Cause in her complaint, she said, that's where he snuggled my neck without consulting me when he had the intimate coordinator, all that stuff. So he shows it to show how they're talking about random things and then they're like, cut. And he walks away and she's laughing and talking about how he should get a nose job and this and that. And so then someone goes, oh my God. This same move that she's doing is exactly like the, the dance scene, the first dance scene that she had in Green Lantern with Ryan Reynolds when she was with Penn Bagley and he was married to Scarlett Johansson. And then they fell in love and got married. So it was like the main thought is, was Ryan Reynolds jealous of the relationship that he thought they might have been having? Was she flirting? Did she want something more there. There clearly never happened. No, he. Neither of them ever cheated on anybody. Justin didn't want Blake. Blake. But, you know, was. Did he kind of reject her and then she went after or did Ryan get jealous and see everything, like texts and stuff and. And because one of the texts that she left was joking back and forth and she says something like, oh, you know, that's me. Or something. Something about no teeth, which is. I can't remember the Text, but it is insinuating a blowjob. No teeth. So that's what you're saying to your. You know. And then she took the composer away. So he got the musical composer who had done all these amazing. Let me get to the composer one. Okay. So sad truth. This is from Daily Mail. Behind Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni's feud over the unnamed. It ends with us. Composer revealed. He had this composer that had this illustrious career. I can't remember all the things he did Fast and the Furious, but a bunch of other movies, too. And once she was getting in there to take over, she insisted that he be fired. They fired him. He's like, I don't want anyone to know that I was ever fired because I've never been fired in 26 years. And then she reached out to the Deadpool composer, and he was already working on another movie. And she's like, I need you to compose this movie for me in one week. And he goes, I really need three. She's like, you need to do it in one week. He did it in one week. Then she got the, you know, the other song from Taylor.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
So it's just more and more proof of how she, like, took over and changed things that didn't need to be changed, that weren't her department. And she's revealed in interviews over and over that, like, oh, when you hire me, I act like I'm gonna be the docile actress, but get ready, I'm gonna have my hands in everything. And it is just amazing to me.
Guy Branham
That they had one of the hit movies of the year, and they have managed to do so much to make both of them unemployable.
Heather McDonald
Do you think. Do you think that with Justin, you think they wouldn't. People wouldn't want to touch that either.
Guy Branham
I don't know.
Heather McDonald
It's just a lot of ick on all three of them.
Guy Branham
I think he got dropped by his agents, right?
Heather McDonald
Yes. But that was, like, right in the beginning.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And I don't know. I think everybody can come back.
Guy Branham
Yes, he does look real good in that pink suit.
Heather McDonald
And they're. They're both very attractive. All three of them are very attractive people. It's like. It's just. I find the reason people are fascinated by it is because to, you know, to someone who's not in the business, it's very. You don't really know how all these things work. So, like, the average person's learning, like, how you can, you know, fuck over the wardrobe person and wear your own clothes. And why that doesn't help with a character when you're a flower shop girl and you're wearing, like, Yves Saint Laurent $2,500 boots. Like, just because you wanted to wear those boots, like, all those things is why people are interested.
Guy Branham
Also, I don't know that much about the texting, but it does sound like a lot of actory bullshit. Like a lot of touchy feely, lovey dovey, actory bullshit, which is gonna happen when you have an actor as the director.
Heather McDonald
Right. And then also, I said if anybody agreed with her that he was a creep, I think they were just wanting to, you know, have something in common with her. And also, I have no proof to this, but he strikes me as a close talker.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
A close actor talker. That's like looking in your eyes a little too sincere. Yeah, a little too. And that's not a crime. But then when she maybe went to the two other females, you know, Isabella and Jenny Slate, and shared her stuff, I'm sure they were like, ugh, yeah, that would bug that. Yeah, he's like that. You know, it could have been a little bit like that. And now they're like, leave me alone. Taylor Swift is the godmother to some of her kids. And she has just completely ghosted her as far as publicly. Now we don't know if they're talking on the phone. She could have brought her to the game.
Guy Branham
Do we need to bring chaperones back? Do you think that everything would just be better if we just had, like, you know, like, somebody's, like, spinster aunt around at all times to make sure that there's no funny business?
Heather McDonald
I think it sucks because I think that we are just past a place of MeToo where things were kind of on track, that everybody kind of got it, like, not to be a creep and just work. And now this is gonna throw a snafu in that of everyone then going back to walking on eggshells and not being as free about what they wanna talk about on set.
Guy Branham
And there's also just the thing of, like, you can have 999 people who tell legitimate, sincere stories of something bad happening. And one person trying to do that manipulatively, and that discredits everyone. You know, it's like, people are so likely to be like, oh, she just made this up. She just made this up. And, like, the vast majority of people are not making it up. And it doesn't help when you, like, accuse somebody. And then there are text messages that make very clear that it's not real.
Heather McDonald
Exactly. Wait, I want to get to. Do you know about Shangela?
Guy Branham
Okay.
Heather McDonald
I know Shangela from Drag Race.
Guy Branham
I know about Shangela from Shangela. Sorry. I've worked with Shangela before, but I also know people who have been in situations with Shangela where shit happened to them.
Heather McDonald
Really?
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Well, let me fill in everybody. So Shangela is one of the most famous drag queens from Drag Race. I met Shangella as a man.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
DJ @ I think maybe Ross's wedding. Ross Matthews, Total delight. Nice to me. Okay, doesn't matter. This story is from 2017. Not story, but this person has filed a lawsuit based on what happened to him in 2017. And basically he says he was with Shangela, but they used his real name, which is dj DJ Pierce. After working on something, got drinks and doesn't remember anything else, woke up to one man, you know, penetrating him while he watched. And then he joined in.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And you know, why are they coming out now? That doesn't matter. This is what his story is. We'll see what happens. He is vehemently denying it.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
Fierces Shangella. And I don't know, but I got an email sent to me yesterday that, like, popped up. That was from somebody that's like, I have something to tell you, and now I cannot find it. So if you sent it to me, will you please resend it? I cannot find it. I'm.
Guy Branham
And it was about Shangela.
Heather McDonald
Yeah. And. But what were you saying? So, you know, people that have had.
Guy Branham
Somebody who worked with Shangela, and then Shangela got them a drink, and then they were like, I should not be feeling this way after one drink.
Heather McDonald
And did they get out okay or no?
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
But now thinking about it, they're like, yeah, that was always very weird.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
Guy Branham
You know, I only know the story that a friend I love and trust told me. And I also think when you point to the. It was 2017. Why is it only coming out now? I think that so frequently for men, it is hard to be able to identify that that's something that can happen 100%.
Heather McDonald
Yeah. I'm saying I don't have a problem that it's from 2000. I'm just saying that people will always say that. And it's like, you, you know, you don't know, and it doesn't matter. And that's why they changed the law that you can come many years after. So, you know, usually the evidence they use for that to make it a legit case is that victim, you know, and he's used. He's, he's not anonymous. I just don't have his name here right now. But he, you know, probably told people that right away. There's probably texts or emails or some people that can say, yeah, I remember when this happened. He told me this. And he, you know, so that his story, obviously, they just don't take like a story. It's just because you say it, you know, there's got to be enough evidence that they were hanging out that night, this did happen. And he probably shared it with someone.
Guy Branham
Yeah, I mean, it's.
Heather McDonald
But he's saying it's not true. And he's like, people are just trying to take me down because I'm successful. I'm, you know, it's horrible to take down a, you know, a black gay man who does drag. And that's why this is happening. And yeah, so that's that. So that's crazy. Thanks for that scoop. Okay, so now let's get into. So the messy behind the scenes drama on one of Netflix most popular new shows. So this is. Nobody wants us. People really love this show. It's on Netflix. It's from one of the Foster girls.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And the Foster girls are sisters who are David Foster's daughters from his marriage that he had. Before Brody. No, before Brody and Brandon. So he was.
Guy Branham
Oh, okay.
Heather McDonald
Yeah. So he had daughter. He had these two daughters with wife one or two.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
Then he married Brody and Brandon Jenner's mom.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And didn't have any kids with her. Then he married Yolanda. Then he married Michelle, what's her name, the singer from American Idol, Katherine McPhee.
Guy Branham
Okay.
Heather McDonald
And so these daughters became.
Guy Branham
Who has custody of the lemon trees.
Heather McDonald
They sold that house. My love, I make you the lemon chicken. She's living your best life. She got a new guy and she lives in Dallas or Texas in a big house with like a lot of. Of like riding pants. She still has a perfect body.
Guy Branham
Never been happier than Amsterdam. Just. I've never been happier than Amsterdam.
Heather McDonald
And I think she finally got over Lyme disease. I don't know. But anyway, getting to this. So you have some. So, so st. The story is. So she sold the show idea. What are the. And the sisters have clothing. They have lots of success and they, they're funny. They kind of became famous on like social media and Twitter and they're very self deprecating. And the one girl fell in love with a rabbi and converted. And so she, they kind of came up with this show that like has two sisters doing a podcast Falls in love with a Jewish guy.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And in la and, you know, a very LA type of story. But I guess there were issues with the showrunners and her.
Guy Branham
Well, they brought.
Heather McDonald
I mean, why don't you give us the scoop?
Guy Branham
The thing is, is, like, Erin Foster has worked in television, but she's also done a lot of other things. Same could be said of me. But they brought in really, really great showrunners. And what they produced was a very funny season of television that people fallen in love with. There's so little success now. But then they got rid of those.
Heather McDonald
One of the guys with Modern Family.
Guy Branham
Right, right. Jack Burdick, Modern Family and 30 Rock, a real pro. And I think they started out with Aaron showrunning it, and then they were like, we don't know about this. And they brought in prose. And it's always that interesting thing of, like, am I being undercut? Because I am a woman and they don't trust me and they just want these guys to be in charge. But it's also.
Heather McDonald
Let me ask a question. Cause I don't even have the answer for it. Yes. As a showrunner.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
What are. Like, let's say my show was being made. Since I've never been a showrunner before. I've been a writer, I've been an actor, and I can come up with the stories and stuff.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
But I would want someone like you that's done it because you would know five steps ahead.
Guy Branham
Because you have to be in all of the meetings and you have to be able to, like, take the notes. And it's also so much about a schedule. Like, I've been on shows that are able to respect the schedule and everything goes fine. And then I've been on shows where people respect the schedule and it just becomes chaos and gets really bad and the networks and studios get. Really.
Heather McDonald
Is a showrunner also in charge of hiring not just the writers and the actors, but, like, everybody.
Guy Branham
Everybody.
Heather McDonald
Okay, so that's like, a huge thing.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
That if you don't have the skill set for. Why would you even want it? First of all.
Guy Branham
Right. You're having to make sure that the art department does what it's supposed to do. And most of the time, that's because you hire an art director who you know and trust, and they can make sure it all happens.
Heather McDonald
But if you haven't worked on 10 other shows, how would you know who to hire?
Guy Branham
Right, right. And so that was the thing. And so they've gotten rid of these two experienced, great showrunners. And are now bringing in Ginny Connor, who was reads.
Heather McDonald
Right.
Guy Branham
Girls.
Heather McDonald
Oh, girls.
Guy Branham
And so she's great, very talented. And I think it will go well. But I think it's this interesting thing of. Because it is Aaron Foster's life. It's gotta be weird to have a show and it's your life. And then there are these two strangers who are deciding what are the good and bad versions of it. But it's also hard to write a show about your life, to be distanced enough from it to say, this is what's going to make good tv.
Heather McDonald
That's the classic of every time someone sold something about their show, their life, it's like you've got to just go, yeah, this is a, this is a version of it. And you know, I mean, I remember when I sold the story about my life in 2001, and it was about like a young girl working with her parents in real estate and like her brothers and all this stuff who were like these 40 year old guys that were kind of fuckups and like living at the house. And I remember we sold it like that. I do all the characters, every pitch meeting was like hilarious. And then when we got to write it, they're like, yeah, we wanna make the brothers into one and we wanna make him your younger brother.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And I was like, well, all the funny situations were because of this.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And I just remember I was like, you know what, I'm 30 years old. If the show goes and I get a check in the mail and they running with it like, this isn't. This is not my end. All be all right, so. But she doesn't need this show. She has all the money in the world from all these other businesses. So she's probably like, no, like. And then also in this day and age of like, every time a man says anything, it's like, stop mansplaining, stop doing. Like, instead of being like, thank you for your expertise. Why does that expertise would make the show better versus then just a man is telling me it should be different.
Guy Branham
And also Netflix has thrown so much at the wall and this is the one comedy that's just been a real success for them. You know, it's Kristen Bell and Adam Brody and everybody loves them. And it's like, you want this thing to keep working. And it's so interesting to see these few areas of success have to necessarily also be places of conflict. And like, everyone I know who worked on the show had a really great time.
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
Guy Branham
Yeah, I think it's juicy and I want to know more.
Heather McDonald
I think if I was. If I was her, I would just. I would love someone just to take the reins, roll in. I'd like to pop in and be like, here's five really funny stories.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Do with what you want. And I'm going to go back to the beach.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And hang out with my sister and designed, you know, fun dresses that cost $400. Who cares?
Guy Branham
Yes. Why?
Heather McDonald
But, you know, that's good. Now. White Lotus. White Lotus 3. We're two episodes in.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And Patrick, we're Shriver's son.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
He's real cute. He's playing the part of. There's a rich family.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
That's from the South. Love that. Love that they're from the South. Love that whole thing. They're from North Carolina. Parker Posey's amazing.
Guy Branham
Gay guys who are. Gay guys who are coming for her accent can go fuck themselves.
Heather McDonald
Parker Posey people are.
Guy Branham
Yes. Parker Posey is fucking from Louisiana. Like, she knows what she's doing. Like. Like, the younger gays are getting to learn about. Parker Posey means so much to me. She was, like, very meaningful to me.
Heather McDonald
Oh, loved. Best in show.
Guy Branham
Everything amazing. But she's taken real big swings with the characters, with the character. I love it. I'm not as into this season as before.
Heather McDonald
I don't think anybody is. But I think what the problem is is that we are forgetting how we felt the first two episodes of season two.
Guy Branham
All right. I like that.
Heather McDonald
First two seasons. First two episodes of season two, they are in Italy. And I remember I was like, I'm not into this Italy thing. I'm a little bit bored. This isn't as good as Hawaii. I wish they just would have stayed in America, Natasha. And so I think he does this. I think Mike White, the genius of Mike White, is he sets it up a little slow in the beginning and also, like, doing the camera longer. Lingers on things because he wants people not to guess what's gonna happen. And he wants to. I think he wants to steer them in the wrong direction as a viewer. But this second episode, I literally fell asleep.
Guy Branham
It feels really slow and also just sort of, like, morally simplistic. Oh, Patrick Schwarzenegger is a bad guy. You know, like, so what do you.
Heather McDonald
Think about people hinting that. That they think that there's a incest in that family?
Guy Branham
Okay. I definitely think that's the story, and I do think that that will be juicy. Like the fact. It's also weird and interesting to me that Mike White, a gay showrunner, would Have a situation where the brother is looking lustfully at his own brother so much.
Heather McDonald
But I think that could just be. I think personally it's not going to be an incest story.
Guy Branham
Okay.
Heather McDonald
I think he's doing that to get people intrigued and sucked in. And there's going to be some other twist with this weird family that we never thought of that does not have to do with that.
Guy Branham
I hope so because, like, White Lotus has been very juicy. I am annoyed with. There's a way that TV continues to center a bunch of white famous people that we love by making the stories all about like, ugh, white people are so terrible. Aren't all white people rich and terrible? And it's like there are a lot of white people who aren't rich, you know, And I just think that there's a lot of so many shows like Search Party in its way. There have been so many different shows that are just like, well, we have to be preoccupied with white people. They're so terrible.
Heather McDonald
Well, first of all, well, I like it so far. Even though episode two is slow. It's not like I'm not gonna give it up. I'm not giving it up. But I love. Okay, so I still love. I love the Parker Posey in that family. I have friends that live in North Carolina. Like I was the type of person from la. Like, I didn't even know that like people were rich. Yes. Because I was like, is it all the rich people? Like, so I love the rich.
Guy Branham
I just went to Charleston for the. It's amazing.
Heather McDonald
Yeah. So I kind of like that they chose that. It wasn't a Manhattan family or an LA family. I love the three 48 year old best friends.
Guy Branham
Of course you do.
Heather McDonald
That is. And the dynamic and the kind of. And that one is famous and she's treating everybody and they're talking behind the backs of the third. It's perfectly done.
Guy Branham
Carrie Coons is the best. And then that other woman who does Ryan Murphy things is a delight there.
Heather McDonald
So I love all that. Okay, one question.
Guy Branham
I have been walking around just looking at the hotel for two episodes now.
Heather McDonald
She's the massage therapist. Okay, so let me ask a question. The massage therapist, she was in the first one.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
But not in the second. Right, right. Okay. I just want to make sure. And now she's at the third, still being the massage therapist. And we know her son is coming.
Guy Branham
And is horny for the other massage.
Heather McDonald
Therapist for the guy for the Asian massage, the Thailand. And then again, just like the Italian one. I didn't really like the staff, like, speaking in another language, me having to, like, read the subtitles. I know I'm sounding like a stupid, dumb American.
Guy Branham
The way they're doing the subtitles is cool, but.
Heather McDonald
But I. I'm losing. I don't know what's going on with those two people working at the place and that. He likes her. But that's. That's good. I shouldn't know, right?
Guy Branham
Do you like the, like, juicy sex tourist older guys? I think that is interesting, the sort.
Heather McDonald
Do you think that's what they are with their two young girls?
Guy Branham
Well, just sort of the older guy, younger woman, and then the guys who live there. And then just the whole notion of the guys who are losers anywhere else. Like all of these older men with money who come.
Heather McDonald
Oh, see, I didn't see it like that. I mean, listen, I think it's just gonna get better and better. I think he has to lay the groundwork to suck you in and make you question things.
Guy Branham
But I also. There's just something so pleasurable about Parker Posey has a face that hasn't been worked on a bunch.
Heather McDonald
Totally. She looks great.
Guy Branham
And it's also just like a different version of, like. It's kind of funny to me because we do have so many women over 50 in LA who have had a lot of work, who playing sort of like pilled up, rich wife wouldn't make a lot of sense. But, like, I like that this is a different version of a pilled up, rich wife, you know?
Heather McDonald
Yeah. I mean, she still looks really great.
Guy Branham
She's gorgeous.
Heather McDonald
But, you know, but Elizabeth, I mean, Jennifer Coolidge had a full facelift.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
After all of this.
Guy Branham
Oh, really?
Heather McDonald
Yeah. She looks amazing. And she lost a little bit of weight. And then I could tell she got the lids done, which is a very easy thing to do. Blepharoplasty, it's one thing.
Guy Branham
My best friend got blepharoplasty, it's one.
Heather McDonald
Thing I don't need because my eyes are different. But for anyone that has the lids that start to come down, it's like the easiest thing you can do. And it's one of those things that you can't really tell. Like, you're like. You just look more alert. Like, it's the best thing. If that's all you need, it's the best thing.
Guy Branham
Did you watch the SNL50 documentary on the auditions?
Heather McDonald
No. And I. I said, I want that. And someone's like, it's already on. It's on Peacock, so I have to watch it.
Guy Branham
Yes, but they show Jenna. They do a section of, like, these people did not get SNL and then had amazing careers. And they show Jennifer Coolidge's one of her auditions, and it's really cool.
Heather McDonald
Oh, yeah. Love that.
Guy Branham
I mean, it's probably. It's amazing. It's so many people, you know? You know.
Heather McDonald
Well, I was. I was all set to go. I was all set to go with my suitcase packed. I was gonna bring Peter. I was gonna go to the Hamptons after and hang out with my Aunt Claire.
Guy Branham
Wait, you got invited to SNL50?
Heather McDonald
No, to audition. To audition. And then they called. Then my agent goes. My manager goes. I have good news and bad. The good news is the MTV pilot that I did, which is what I used all the clips from Lyricist Lounge. Yeah. Is going. And SNL will not take anyone that's in second position, and it's 100% going. And he goes. And I've been begging with the producer to let you out of it, and they won't. And so then that's what I said. I never auditioned, but I had all the things, all the characters.
Guy Branham
Speaking of Mike White, one of the things I thought was really great was how much Molly got screen time during SNL50 and how much she was part of the promotion. And I was like. And like, Molly is like, Molly Shannon. Yes. She's such a sweet, retiring person. She's the best, but also is, you know, Brolin after she won an Emmy for White Lotus. Right. You know, it was nice seeing somebody as deserving and talented as her having heat.
Heather McDonald
I just remember one time I went to an SNL taping and party when I was still at Ground Links. Whatever. Some of the people I know, like Chris Parnell and stuff, got me tickets, and I took my sister, and my sister's name is Shannon, and I was hanging out with Molly Shannon, and I was drunk, and I kept calling her Shannon.
Guy Branham
Oh.
Heather McDonald
And I remember her going, my name is Molly. And it's, like, haunted. Like, it's one of those things that, like, just you mentioning her, that's all I remember from, like, 30 years ago.
Guy Branham
It's really hard.
Heather McDonald
I hope she's okay with that.
Guy Branham
We've all done very dumb things. I. In the very recent past.
Heather McDonald
Do you have things like that that, like, haunt you?
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Can you share any of them? Oh, and you don't have to say names, but, like, one of those embarrassing things that, like. Like, once every two months, just, like, flashes, like a movie of, like, horror.
Guy Branham
Yes. There is a black lesbian comedian who I have Called by another black lesbian comedian's name so many times and in the worst of situations. And like, at this point, I've apologized about it in ways that were cute and adorable, and I don't get to apologize again. Like, it's not okay.
Heather McDonald
Cause you did it after the apology.
Guy Branham
Yes. 100%. What the fuck?
Heather McDonald
I'm really bad with names.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And to the point where I don't trust myself. So I almost, like, when I'm. I'm like, I'm 99.99% sure that girl is Mary. But I'll be like, instead of saying, Mary, this is my husband, Peter. I'll go, so this is my husband. And then I just am so scared.
Guy Branham
Because I, like, the pandemic made me so much worse because it was two years of not seeing anyone.
Heather McDonald
Right.
Guy Branham
And like, part of being a standup is just knowing an extra thousand people, you know, and it's terrible. Well, and also, I was at. There's also the other thing of, like, I went to that Shabbat last Friday.
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
Guy Branham
And there were three people there. And I was just like, oh, have we met before? And one of the guys is like, yeah, I think so. And it's like the two guys were like, very successful comedians, and one of their wives is, like, truly legitimately famous. And I was just like, oh, I didn't real. Like, I should have realized, you know, and you want to be respectful of people.
Heather McDonald
But see, the thing about you is that, like, no one's going to forget you.
Guy Branham
Right.
Heather McDonald
Because there aren't any other guys walking around that look like you.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Like, you are not a typical looking guy.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
However, if you went on a cruise with a bunch of families, there are a lot of straight dads that you could. That could be mistaken for you.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
If you wore a tank top calling with a shirt that says ship happens, we might be like, I think I've seen you out. But as a Hollywood personality, you know, you're too memorable. You have a memorable laugh. Like, you know. But I have to say, in your defense, there's a lot of other men in this business that look very similar. That's right. And a lot of women, thanks to plastic surgery, that are very hard to tell apart. Like, it's crazy how much women. More than ever. It's insane. Now I'm like, God, if you're a young actress, don't get those lips done. Don't maybe don't even. They pick that girl with her bad teeth.
Guy Branham
I mean, like, the girl with the.
Heather McDonald
Weird teeth who has the weird in the white lotus. And they even address it. They're like, I love your teeth.
Guy Branham
The older. The older guys. British girlfriends.
Heather McDonald
And I'm like, yeah, have something now. I feel like casting directors and producers are gonna want to choose that actress that, you know, that Lauren Bacall. Like, that, like, different looking. That they don't have the perfect white chiclet teeth. They don't have the perfect profile.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
Like, be. But. But you can still be sexy and appealing because that's more than just a perfect face.
Guy Branham
I feel like all the quirky now has to go towards Nepo babies. I feel like all the quirky is just like. Well, you do kind of look like Uma Thurman because you're half Uma Thurman.
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
We have to talk about this. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Tell me your thoughts on the season.
Guy Branham
The notion of Dorit having an entire season resting on her shoulders would have been chilling to me before.
Heather McDonald
Chilling.
Guy Branham
I've been stunned and amazed by how effectively she has managed it. The slaying of Camille Grammer was one of the most amazing things that I've ever seen.
Heather McDonald
When she. And the denim and diamonds.
Guy Branham
Yes. That she understood. Because I really thought when they showed the promos of her saying that, I was like, she's gonna come for Garcelle, and she's not gonna be able to handle what comes to her. And the thing is, her taking down Camille in that way showed everybody there. You better have some respect. Is her name Baz?
Heather McDonald
Yes. She's the new girl.
Guy Branham
Baz has been fucking killing the dynamics of this season. Understanding that, like, what you need is somebody backing up Dorit so that there is a real dynamic here. Kyle is dull as dishwater. Everything that has happened since she got sober and had her Morgan times has just been tiring to me. Now I'm starting to have sympathy for her. I'm like, don't you realize you and Mo would just be happier together? Even if he is fucking women in Spain? You would still just.
Heather McDonald
Well, she kind of says that in last night's episode, she kind of was.
Guy Branham
Like, I still haven't watched last night's episode.
Heather McDonald
Okay, so last night's episode, she has, like, her therapist guy come over.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And, you know, this is like, seven, eight months ago or whatever when they filmed it. And she says, oh, it would have been the summer. So they're in the summer. He's in, you know, took Portia to Europe, and she's like. I mean, like, I don't know now what if we don't end up back. What if we don't end up together? Or we're like, what if he does want to get back together? And she said, I'm so hurt because he said, I didn't think I could ever be on my own, but I guess I can.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And she wanted him to say, I didn't think I could ever live love, live without you. But it's more about, like, I just didn't want to be alone. I just. Now I know how to buy sheets and do uber eats. Like, I don't know what. And so now, next week, we see that the news pops that he is in Europe no longer with Portia, the daughter. And this young blonde meets him at the airport, and paparazzi gets photos, and they're clearly a couple.
Guy Branham
This. This was not his choice. Like, I mean, we can say, oh, he was messing around with her or whatever before. Like, this is about her little midlife crisis with Morgan that she can't admit to. Like, and it's very frustrating to me.
Heather McDonald
I go back and forth.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
I think she had her midlife crisis. I think she slides in famous people's DMs, girls too. She did it with Ke$ha. I think maybe as a couple, they did dabble in threesomes.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
I don't think this is the first time around a bean that she's been. I think she knows what to do down there. And I think she did have some fun with Morgan, but now I think that they are still just friends. I think they are just friends that at one time hung out.
Guy Branham
Her and Morgan or her and Mauricio?
Heather McDonald
Her and Morgan.
Guy Branham
Oh, yes. Like, Morgan has clearly moved along. Like, I don't know if Kyle knows what life looks for her now, but the shit she pulled with Dorit at last season's reunion was not okay.
Heather McDonald
Which was it?
Guy Branham
Remind me we weren't even really friends.
Heather McDonald
Oh, that's so mean.
Guy Branham
Yeah, like, it was so fucking mean and, like, fucking good. That Dorit. I mean, like, all Dorit did was say, you kind of dropped me for this. And Dorit could have said to her, you were having your little fucking midlife crisis, and that's why you did that. And that's why you turned on me and she didn't. But, like, that Dorit has held her own, has made me so happy. The bullshit. Like, I do love when we get into a California community property. It's just sort of short of 10 years. Like, that is juicy and interesting to me. PK was a bad character And I'm glad that he's gone. Like, I'm sorry I didn't watch last night.
Heather McDonald
Okay? But I'm gonna.
Guy Branham
I do think. I do think the responsibility is on Garcelle motherfucking Beauvais to find a path here. Nobody else is in charge, and Garcelle is the only person, I think, with the intelligence and capability to do what?
Heather McDonald
What is she supposed to do?
Guy Branham
I don't know. To get these bitches back in line. To have a real talk. To have a real talk with Kyle Richards.
Heather McDonald
Okay, this is what I think. I think that Bose. I like the addition of her.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
But as someone who's watched the show.
Guy Branham
Forever, you don't think she'll last.
Heather McDonald
I know. I think that when she is talking, like, to Dorit and calling people out, I like that.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
But her storyline, I think, is 100% fake about wanting a baby at 48, it's 100% fake. And I think if she is this person who is in marketing, she has studied the show, realized I need to have something going on besides commenting on the other woman. My daughter has a good life. I'm not going to expose her boyfriend situation. My husband is dead. I'm gonna do the storyline that everybody does. Ramona did it, remember, in New York, where she was like, I might be having. You know, I don't know. My period's really late, remember? And then also, Kim was like, I'm having another baby to Kyle. It's like something that people do. But I think last night's episode, she has an infertility person come to her house and look at her stomach, her uterus, and say, oh, you still have a couple eggs at 48. And then the fertility woman goes. The doctor goes, well, you know, after 45, for you to have your own baby with your own egg, it's less than a 2% chance. And she's like. It is. I'm like, okay, girl. I knew that at, like, 18 that you had these years to get pregnant naturally. Everyone knows it. You're in Beverly Hills, you know, every. So I don't believe this baby storyline. And I think it's insensitive to people that really struggle and want to have hope to have their kids.
Guy Branham
You think it's callously insincere.
Heather McDonald
I do. But I like everything else about her. I just don't like that she's gone this far with this, I believe, fake storyline. But she is the only one that will tell the truth.
Guy Branham
Doing something like a fun little surrogacy line storyline could Be, like, light and interesting, but it's not gonna do the real work of giving her a real story. I think she needs to either start a business or just get really mad at one of them.
Heather McDonald
The other thing is some people don't believe that the boyfriend is real. Oh, there's a rumor I heard.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
That, you know, that he. Whatever. A couple years ago, he was like a production assistant. I don't know if that's true.
Guy Branham
There need to be more real relationships. We're at a point in time where nobody there has a marriage or a real relationship. And that lacks a lot. It leaves it unbalanced. You want to have. I mean, it was always Kyle's great source of strength. Kyle and Ramona both having this marriage that they were able to rely on.
Heather McDonald
And then that's the other thing that Kyle said, which is pretty interesting last night, is she goes, I was always so proud that I had stayed married this long. And that's also really hard because you have a right to get divorced, even if you are everybody in the Bravo's universe. Couple goals, like, you know, and she probably maybe wanted to break free of him earlier from his cheating, but she couldn't because she was like, this is my most greatest accomplishment as a Beverly Hills TV person that I've managed to stay married, and he still acts into me, even though he probably has been fucking people on the side for 10 years.
Guy Branham
I also said that she had been so Hollywood for so long that she had been C. Thomas Howell's girlfriend and all of these people, but that she had this, like, really kind of domestic, like, you know, like, I'm married into a big Jewish family that does Shabbats together. We're just, you know, good Beverly Hills folks.
Heather McDonald
How do you feel? We've not talked about Sutton. Oh, how do you feel about Sutton and her anger towards Dorit? About Dorit Mitten poking at her alcohol issues?
Guy Branham
Okay. I hate Sutton.
Heather McDonald
Okay.
Guy Branham
This season has made me appreciate what she brings to the table a little more. Also, I think seeing her mom and understanding just how self absorbed that woman is makes me understand a little bit better Sutton's narcissism.
Heather McDonald
But, like, so last night. Yes, I missed it. They're at this caftan and caviar party that Jennifer.
Guy Branham
Can we have a caftanic caviar party?
Heather McDonald
I think we have to. And Jennifer Tilly, with all her sin and just her great attitude about life.
Guy Branham
She throws it the biggest addition to the show. She's just everything.
Heather McDonald
She's just a joy, and she's a Rich Joy. And she doesn't give a fuck.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
She's got nothing to lose.
Guy Branham
She's got an Academy Award nomination for Simpsons Money.
Heather McDonald
She said last night on Watch Problems Live. He goes, are you enjoying it? She goes, it's kind of like when you get a massage, but it's a hard massage and you're like, this kind of hurts. But am I enjoying it or am I not? Or will I be happier after? It was really kind of funny. So I like her just commenting on anything.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Cause her attitude is so great. But it was so funny because when we watched the Show Drake, my 22 year old goes, wait, that girl's like a really good poker player. That's how he knew her. He knew her for being a poker player.
Guy Branham
That's wonderful.
Heather McDonald
I mean, she's a poker player.
Guy Branham
The most amazing thing about Jennifer Tilly joining Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is the season of traitors that she goes on is going to be.
Heather McDonald
I hope she does it. If she gets asked.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
Just so she could go to shopping after. So she throws this party at this place called Caspian or something that actually exists in Beverly Hills.
Guy Branham
Yes. It's the place where you go for caviar.
Heather McDonald
Okay. So you could get a baked potato with the caviar. And based on the caviar, it can be anywhere from 250 to $1,000.
Guy Branham
Amazing.
Heather McDonald
So she has this party. Everyone has to wear a caftan. But Dorit didn't read the invite, so she just came in, like a belted Dior dress.
Guy Branham
Dorit's not allowed to do that. Of all of the women there, Dorit is not the person who is allow.
Heather McDonald
She killed it in a Castan. Yeah. She would have had the best one.
Guy Branham
Yes. And it's like, I realize that what she's performing now is I'm divorcing. I can't pay attention to anything. But, like, Dorit's not allowed.
Heather McDonald
Okay. So right away, Sutton is just really still pissed at Dorit about the fourth of July, her being like, you're asking Sutton if there's alcohol in her drink. So anyway, so then Sutton is like. And she's just like, really trying. And she's just so mad at her. And she says to her, why don't you maybe you need to go after someone? That is something about the wallet. Like, my wallet's bigger than you.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And Erica is like, whoa. And Garcelle is like, what? And then Dorit's in her confessional is like, just when you think that Sutton couldn't make herself look worse. She does it. Case closed, you know? But in Sutton's defense, she's like, you know, you want to be richer than you are, you spend. Which we all know she's spending, you know, $5,000 an outfit. Her house is in pre foreclosure. She doesn't have the Beverly beach, you know, bikinis anymore. What is she going to do? She will get another rich billionaire. I'm convinced.
Guy Branham
No. Okay, so that was what I was gonna say.
Heather McDonald
She's gonna Lauren Sanchez it 100%.
Guy Branham
She has earned another season, I think.
Heather McDonald
Oh, yeah. We need to see her date.
Guy Branham
And also, Dorit Kemsley is a fucking closer. Okay? We've all seen what Dorit looked like when she was 20. Like, she built this so that she could catch a man. She understands that this fig will not be long on the tree. Like, I truly think she has one season to find a man and one season to have a wedding that will have lots of events and issues.
Heather McDonald
Yes.
Guy Branham
But, like, if she could get somebody. I mean, the most insufferable thing about Sutton is all of Christian's money.
Heather McDonald
And so then she goes, really? You're gonna brag about your money? That's your husband's money?
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
I mean, he made it. It's not from the Sutton story.
Guy Branham
Because my argument is always when she was going after fucking Erica. It's like, you don't fucking know how many people got killed for Christian's money. You get to have clean hands.
Heather McDonald
Right. That's a good point. You don't really know.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
Where it comes from. And then to be snobby about it when you didn't really build it. Yeah. So I liked this season. I think this season is good. I think there's lots of layers to it.
Guy Branham
I think it's really good. I just want Kyle to find a new base level because so much of what she's for.
Heather McDonald
Okay, predict. Does she ever come out as a lesbian? I don't think so. Cause I don't think she really is one. I think she messed around with Morgan. Morgan was like, I got what I needed out of it. I'm not. I don't want to be known as the Bravo celebrity lesbian. I'm a singer. But we are friends. They have a real friendship. And she will be with a guy next. She will not be with a woman.
Guy Branham
I think she could potentially find the powerful lady who would give her what she needs and everything.
Heather McDonald
I would love that.
Guy Branham
I think it's not probable. I think she ends up back with Mauricio.
Heather McDonald
Whoa.
Guy Branham
I Think she lands back there and.
Heather McDonald
Let him still fuck on the side or he has to give that up? I think he cannot publicly fuck on the side. If they get back together.
Guy Branham
I mean, yes.
Heather McDonald
Or even privately, but I think he's got to get it out of his system.
Guy Branham
I think privately he can. I think they need to learn to get better at. Privately.
Heather McDonald
I think she's bummed that she ever just didn't keep it don't ask, don't tell policy like a lot of women have.
Guy Branham
Yeah. But I think Dorit. Dorit needs to find a man in his 60s who will be annoyed with having to make Real Housewives, but who has enough money that she can make herself look, you know, get the outfit.
Heather McDonald
I think it was Dorit who said last night about Sutton. The only thing that she. The only thing that her money's gotten or something hurt. The only date that she got is a horse. Like, something like that. Okay. Do you know what is going on with Caroline Kennedy's son?
Guy Branham
Oh, no.
Heather McDonald
Schoschenberg. What's her real last name?
Guy Branham
Oh. Oh, Jack Slossberg.
Heather McDonald
Yeah. Do you know what's happening with him?
Guy Branham
I mean, I know that he's TikTok famous and he keeps doing silly things.
Heather McDonald
I don't get it, though.
Guy Branham
He's, like, goofy and funny, but still slightly political about stuff.
Heather McDonald
But then he went away. Then he came back.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And I'm kind of fascinated. Cause he's, like, definitely looks like JFK Jr. But not as hot.
Guy Branham
But also the fact that he's. He got all the.
Heather McDonald
But he hates rfk.
Guy Branham
He got all the torso jeans. Like, I do love that. It's like, legitimately the same Torso. He's writing 1987 Martha's Vineyard.
Heather McDonald
I guarantee you, as soon. If he's still on social media, as soon as it gets warm enough, he is going to ride his bicycle around without a shirt, just like his uncle.
Guy Branham
But I mean, I am like, does. Does he have a law job? Like, what is he.
Heather McDonald
They said he graduated. All this other stuff.
Guy Branham
Yes. He passed the bar.
Heather McDonald
He passed the bar. But he's. This is what he does. And I. And he's. He's doing these weird, like, jokes.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
About, like, J.D. vance's wife. That he, like, it could have been. We could have been together.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
And then I read the comments, and everybody's like, you're the greatest. This is so amazing. This is so funny. And I'm like, can someone just explain what is going on? I don't get what the point of view is.
Guy Branham
He does have this like goofy, strange TikTok y sense of humor that is like, it's just so clearly not something that is coming out of a TV show or something like that. That would be, you know, have had three older gentlemen who are like, that joke's not funny.
Heather McDonald
I couldn't figure out that guy. But I figured out what's going on with Bhad Bhabie.
Guy Branham
Uh huh.
Heather McDonald
That's Catch me. I might be saying her name wrong. Catch Me Outside girl.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
So she and Alabama Barker, Travis Barker's daughter.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
They're having diss tracks go back and forth in rap. I understand that story and I don't understand what this guy's doing.
Guy Branham
I have questions about the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni aspect.
Heather McDonald
Okay. Ask, ask away.
Guy Branham
No, no. I just mean, like, are they just doing this to make themselves bigger stars than before? Could there possibly be advantage from it? Like one year when I worked the VMAs, I watched Miley and Nicki Minaj plan a rivalry. You know what I mean?
Heather McDonald
You saw it happen?
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
How did. What were they saying to each other?
Guy Branham
Like they were just sort of like they were with their teams and they were planning separately, like the things that they were going to do. You didn't see them interacting, but you saw the plans for what they were going to do for each other. And I do wonder. It's like clearly what Kendrick Lamar and Drake were doing was not mutually planned. It hurt Drake and has helped Kendrick Lamar. But there is this thing of like, can we make a better career out of fighting with each other that I think is interesting.
Heather McDonald
I definitely don't think that with Blake and Justin.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
Can they make lemonade out of it a couple of years down the road? Possibly. Something okay. Could come from it. I don't know. But no, but with these two girls with the Alibaba, like the bad baby or whatever her name is, it's like, you know, tatted up and is a rapper and like, has some pretty good raps and like has a baby daddy who's, you know, I don't even know. I was like all these like, things. Alabama Barker's only 18 years old. She puts out this diss or whatever this track saying that basically that Alabama and she calls her mission Whitney or Ms. Whitley. And then they're like, they're calling her that because Alabama Barker is named after the character of Alabama in the movie that Travis and his wife Shannon Moakler loved that. I can't forget the name of the. And the character's last name was that so she does all the different Easter egg things, which I'm pretty impressed with. Like, I was like, that's pretty clever. And then. And. But she's saying. Talking about how she's had all this body count, like she's such a slut and that even Tyga has gotten her pregnant and all this stuff. And that one, I'm like, I think maybe those two girls are in on something or they both just know it, but they don't really hate each other.
Guy Branham
I just want to say here publicly to Jack Schlossberg, if anybody has access to Jack Schlossberg, get two good writers. Like, get. You've got. Oh, one thing I did do is after he became famous again, I went into the Jack. Yes. After he started becoming like TikTok famous, I went into a hole about who inherited JFK Jr. S money. And it was basically because Carolyn Bessette Kennedy died at the same time as him that all of it went to Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg's kids.
Heather McDonald
And you know, her parents. I remember this cause her sister died too. Caroline Kennedy's sister. The parents did try to do some. Which I remember to try to say, well, based on where the plane is and da. Da. And where they were sitting, yes, they would have died after him.
Guy Branham
Right.
Heather McDonald
But of course, that was a hard thing to prove. So it all went to his kids. Okay.
Guy Branham
Yes. And so like, they have money, like around. He's got the money, like pay for two people who are just like coming up with concepts for you and can help you guide your comedy voice.
Heather McDonald
As after watching him just be like a weirdo in New York or whatever he's doing, I have so much respect for JFK Jr that he was riding that bicycle to be a DA and like literally doing cases and prosecuting people. I'm like, you were the President's son and like, you're working like a fucking hard job that pays very little because you didn't want everyone just to think you were this guy with good hair.
Guy Branham
Well, yes, And I think that's because that's what Jackie was really scared of. Like, Jackie simultaneously married the billionaire to get some billionaire money, but didn't want her children to be.
Heather McDonald
But, you know, JFK Jr. Wanted to be an actor.
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
He wanted to study. He wanted to do that at Brown. And she's like, enough. You can do a play on the side.
Guy Branham
I mean, that is always sad when they.
Heather McDonald
I know. You know, he came to the Groundlings too.
Guy Branham
Oh, really?
Heather McDonald
Came to an up to it. Cause he was friends with One of the guys in it.
Guy Branham
But it is interesting when like the kids have poetry in their soul and the family is like, no, you can't have poetry.
Heather McDonald
I know, that's what's so great. Like people are like, how did your parents feel like when you wanted to be a comedian? I'm like, we weren't a family of doctors. We weren't a family of politicians. They were thrilled. They were like, let's go to a cute dinner.
Guy Branham
Before I listened to the Bush Girls audiobook. It's so good.
Heather McDonald
From When? From like 10 years ago?
Guy Branham
Yes. From like 2017.
Heather McDonald
Okay.
Guy Branham
I was in a sad.
Heather McDonald
President Bush's daughters.
Guy Branham
Yes. I was in a sad place and I ended up watching a bunch of YouTube videos that then ended up on Laura and Barbara Bush being interviewed for some reason. And then that took me to the Bush girls promoting their. Just thinking about political families with New England.
Heather McDonald
Speaking of political things, how do you feel about Monica Lewinsky? She finally has got a podcast. Finally has a podcast.
Guy Branham
I mean, I honestly think that she has guided her career pretty admirably considering where she started out. I think she's been pretty smart about the whole thing. I think there were some, like, maybe the handbags and hosting that one Fox reality show were bad moves. But like, I think it's been good.
Heather McDonald
And like she looks gorgeous.
Guy Branham
Yes. I mean she's always had amazing hair. Like she's always like, yeah, she looks young.
Heather McDonald
Cause she doesn't have kids. So that keeps you young. And then.
Guy Branham
Is she married?
Heather McDonald
Never been married, never had kids. And I feel badly cause I remember when that whole thing was going down, I was like, I don't know, like, I mean in those days things like this mattered. Now it's like, who? Like now if she would have got caught like with the President as a 21 year old intern and it was Obama, even her career would have skyrocketed. She would have been making millions. She would have been revered. Everyone would have been like, oh my God, we love it. It's great. It would have been a complete. She would have been like a Kardashian. It would have been completely thing. But back then, she's my generation. Back then we were still wanting to get married and have kids before we're 30. And I remember seeing this and I'm like, this girl from Brentwood. This just ruined her chances of ever. Like, not that she cares. I'm just telling you what the mindset was, was that this was not going to be easy for someone to fall in love and get married after all this stuff.
Guy Branham
But the question of, like, do I want to listen to their podcast? I do not want to listen to Hock to a girls podcast. I don't know that if podcasts had existed in 2000, that I would have cared to listen to a early 30s Monica Lewinsky talk. But I think 50 with a couple of graduate degrees and like, life experience, like, you know, whining about online bullying. I honestly think children need to be exposed to slightly more bullying these days. Learn some conflict resolution. But, like, I'm interested to hear her perspective.
Heather McDonald
I also think she did an interview and she said someone did a study or whatever when Jay Leno was retiring, and he did the single most jokes about me. And I was a non public person. And I thought that was really interesting because that's kind of the old, like, as far as being this business, as you talk about people, it's like, can they be deemed not a public person? Because if you're talking about someone who's not a public person and you're saying their name and everything and it's defamatory, then they have a thing.
Guy Branham
But if it's like, I mean, but whether you're a public person or not is such an interesting status. One could argue that the minute you blow the president, you're an adult, you blow the president in the White House, legally, you're a public person. You know, And I think it's really hard when you have some people who want to utilize their children or family for good press, and then they want to say, but not for bad press. And it's like, that's not real. You've utilized this person for press. You know, when it comes to political children and stuff like that, do you.
Heather McDonald
Think she'll ever reveal if she voted for Hillary or not?
Guy Branham
Oh, that's so interesting.
Heather McDonald
I'm just gonna guess that she. That she just didn't vote.
Guy Branham
Yeah, I think she probably just didn't vote. I mean, that is. That is such a rough situation.
Heather McDonald
Because it wasn't. I mean, Hillary was, like, not supportive.
Guy Branham
Like, no, I mean, like, that.
Heather McDonald
She was not like, how dare you? This was a young girl that just got out of school. It was like, we're just gonna act like this, you know, didn't happen. And how crazy, though, like, what if. Wouldn't it be insane if they did somehow, like, end up together if something was to happen to Hillary and he, like, picked up the phone and they.
Guy Branham
Met and it was like, that would be hilarious. And only Bill Clinton would have the audacity to do that.
Heather McDonald
I think he would.
Guy Branham
But also, I think you're the only person in the world who would ever imagine that.
Heather McDonald
I'm totally imagining it. And I have been for a while.
Guy Branham
Because when I liked that series so.
Heather McDonald
Much, I love that series. Got me so fucking hot.
Guy Branham
And it was also I had like.
Heather McDonald
Sex dreams about Bill Clinton and it.
Guy Branham
Shifted the way I thought about Beanie Feldstein. I was just like, you have become three steps sexier in my life. Beanie Feldstein.
Heather McDonald
Yeah. What I wonder is, did Monica Lewinsky get any money from those shows written about her?
Guy Branham
Oh, I would imagine she didn't.
Heather McDonald
She would not. Right, right. Cause there is no. I mean, you're just like based on the article of whatever and it's not.
Guy Branham
It's public.
Heather McDonald
Yeah, it's public now. It's public. All right. We are going to let you go tell everybody, like where they can follow you what is going on with your.
Guy Branham
Life across all social media. I'm at Guy Branham, except I'm Guy Branham, comedian on TikTok. I think I have shows on February 27, March 4 and March 6 and April 4 at the Lyric Hyperion here. And then I'm going to be releasing some tour dates where I am taking my. My one person show around America a little bit.
Heather McDonald
And why do you call it. So it's not stand up, it's kind of a more of a storytelling, one man show about your life or what is it?
Guy Branham
Yes. Yeah, it's like a little more multimedia. It's a little more like concepts and ideas.
Heather McDonald
Oh, I love that.
Guy Branham
Yeah.
Heather McDonald
Oh my God. I want. When can I see that? Is there like a preview?
Guy Branham
Yes, I'm doing it here.
Heather McDonald
Oh, at that. It's that. Okay. I didn't know if you were doing something different there and then you're taking another show on the road.
Guy Branham
No, but yes, this is me still working it out. So if you.
Heather McDonald
Okay, I want to come to that.
Guy Branham
If you did want to come and then provide me with your thoughts and stuff, I would appreciate it.
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
Guy Branham
Because you are somebody who would be very likely to. You're good at being like, this was boring to me and this was interesting to me.
Heather McDonald
What if I just steal it for my own and I just take on the Persona of a gay boy that was raised on. You're kind of raised in a rural area, right?
Guy Branham
Yes.
Heather McDonald
And I just. And you're like, God, you're like, heather, that story is not yours.
Guy Branham
As long as you just get a good bald cap, that's all I worry about.
Heather McDonald
Oh, my God. Did you see that person that got caught for wearing a wig with all the cocaine in it?
Guy Branham
Oh, no, that's amazing.
Heather McDonald
And they cut off the wig and it's all this coke.
Guy Branham
Oh, can I make a public service announcement before we're done, though? So one of my biggest pet peeves is not actors wearing fat suits. It is making jokes about having to wear the fat suit when they win awards. Just like when they make jokes about having, like, Jared Leto talking about having to be shaved all over to play a trans woman. Or when people are like, oh, I had to kiss this man. When they win an award for playing a gay guy, Just don't make. At the WGA Awards, the lady from the Penguin made a joke about, oh, it's so hot in that fat suit. But. But Colin Farrell didn't when he won the SAG Award. And I just want to say my PSA is just like, please don't make the joke. Like, please don't add insult to injury.
Heather McDonald
Did they did what's his name? Who won for the whale? Did he ever say that?
Guy Branham
Oh, of course. Of course, yes. I mean, they love doing. When you do that, you have to do a little video about it. It took six hours to get him into an outfit so he could kind of look like Guy.
Heather McDonald
Guy Branham. I love you.
Guy Branham
I love you guys.
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Podcast Summary: "Housewife Sentenced, RHOBH, The Baldwins with Guy Branum"
Episode Release Date: February 27, 2025
In this episode of "Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald," host Heather McDonald engages in a lively and insightful conversation with returning guest Guy Branum, an award-winning comedian, writer, and producer known for his work on shows like Hacks. The episode delves into various facets of pop culture, reality TV drama, personal growth, and the intricacies of the entertainment industry.
Heather opens the episode by celebrating Guy Branum's impressive career, highlighting his multiple awards, including the Writers Guild Award, Emmys, and Golden Globes for his work on Hacks.
Notable Quote:
Heather commends Guy's positive attitude despite leaving Hacks due to budget cuts, emphasizing that sometimes setbacks open doors to new opportunities.
The conversation transitions to recent developments in the Real Housewives of Potomac, focusing on Karen Huger’s DUI incident. Karen, known as the Grand Dame, was sentenced for multiple DUI offenses, including a recent one leading to her arrest after crashing her car while intoxicated.
Notable Quotes:
Heather and Guy discuss Karen's defense citing personal tragedies and mental health struggles, critiquing her refusal to seek rehabilitation promptly. They also compare her handling of legal issues to other RHOP cast members, noting differing levels of accountability and public perception.
Heather introduces the topic of "The Baldwins," a new show on TLC featuring the celebrity Baldwin family. The discussion covers the complex relationships within the family, including infidelity allegations and the impact of fame on personal lives.
Notable Quotes:
They analyze the portrayal of the Baldwins' relationships, particularly focusing on Justin Baldwin’s interactions and the tensions between family members. The conversation highlights how reality TV often amplifies personal conflicts for dramatic effect.
Guy shares his experiences with showrunning, both in scripted environments like Real Housewives and his personal anecdotes about working with actors and navigating the complexities of production.
Notable Quotes:
Heather and Guy discuss the importance of experienced showrunners in maintaining the integrity and success of a show. They lament the frequent replacement of key personnel, which can disrupt the creative process and lead to less authentic storytelling.
The episode delves into how social media influences celebrity behavior and public personas, particularly within reality TV.
Notable Quotes:
The hosts explore the blurred lines between personal life and public image, questioning the authenticity of celebrities’ actions on social media and their repercussions on their careers. They also touch upon the ethical considerations of featuring children in reality TV and the responsibilities of production companies in safeguarding their well-being.
Heather and Guy engage in a critical dialogue about representation in media, focusing on issues like alcoholism, child actors, and the responsibilities of reality TV producers.
Notable Quotes:
They emphasize the importance of ethical storytelling, advocating for responsible depiction of sensitive topics and the protection of vulnerable individuals in the industry. The conversation highlights the need for media to evolve in its approach to handling real-life issues authentically and respectfully.
Throughout the episode, Heather and Guy share personal stories, comedic reflections, and behind-the-scenes insights from their careers, adding depth and humor to the discussion.
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These anecdotes not only entertain but also provide listeners with a glimpse into the challenges and humorous moments of working in the entertainment industry.
The hosts discuss the evolving landscape of reality TV and the role of streaming platforms in shaping modern entertainment.
Notable Quotes:
They analyze how reality TV adapts to streaming services, catering to changing audience preferences while maintaining the core elements that make these shows captivating. The conversation underscores the balance between nostalgia and innovation in contemporary television production.
As the episode wraps up, Heather invites listeners to follow Guy Branum’s upcoming projects, including his one-person show tour and his active presence on social media platforms like TikTok. They reflect on the shared insights and teasingly explore hypothetical scenarios, adding a personable and engaging closure to the episode.
Notable Quote:
Heather encourages audience interaction, promoting her Patreon for exclusive content and supporting the show's growth.
This episode of "Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald" offers a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of reality TV dynamics, celebrity culture, and the personal journeys of those within the entertainment industry. Through candid conversations and insightful commentary, Heather and Guy provide listeners with an engaging narrative that both informs and entertains.