Kim K, Britney, Meghan and Bravo Informants with Jacques Peterson

Summary

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Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Kim K, Britney, Meghan and Bravo Informants with Jacques Peterson

Date: November 6, 2025
Host: Heather McDonald
Guest: Jacques Peterson (Daily Mail)

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively, uncensored dive into the juiciest developments in pop culture, celebrity scandals, and reality TV. Heather McDonald is joined by recurring guest, Australian journalist Jacques Peterson, for an authentic conversation covering Meghan Markle’s latest PR moves, Britney Spears’s controversies, Kim Kardashian’s leap into scripted TV, the new era of Bravo reality shows, and more. The pair deliver sharp takes, insider info, and plenty of laughs, mixing media criticism with the kind of hot gossip only true pop-culture obsessives can give.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meghan Markle’s Dodgers Video and Public Perception

• [03:00] Heather and Jacques discuss Meghan Markle posting a video celebrating the Dodgers win at home, heavily critiquing its clearly staged, inauthentic vibe.

  • Meghan supposedly set up a tripod, made Harry participate in multiple takes, and posted the best one in black-and-white.
  • Both Heather and Jacques note the inauthenticity rampant in celebrity social media attempts at “realness.”
  • Quote, Heather: “If you were truly watching the game…you would’ve been filming the TV and then being like, ‘holy shit, we fucking won.’ But instead they won, she went and got a tripod…” [03:25]

• Jacques points out Meghan's shift in PR—trying to appear more “relatable” and “down to earth” in light of changing public expectations. He suggests a future where Meghan may pivot to reality TV or similar content.

  • Quote, Jacques: “She’s got to lose the Netflix deal…then what is there to do?” [05:47]

• The duo agree true authenticity on camera is rare—citing Lauren Conrad as an example of a celeb who profits in silence, contrasting the pressure for others to overshare online.

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2. Britney Spears, Instagram Deletion, and the Federline Book

• [10:50] Jacques delivers a scathing, unpopular opinion about Britney, calling her “toxic, horrible, mean…the epitome of someone who weaponizes their own mental illness.”

  • Jacques’ take: Britney is not a victim anymore and her patterns of erratic, harmful behavior must be called out.
  • Quote, Jacques: “She’s an awful, toxic, horrible, mean, allegedly substance abuse issues, crazy, gross person. I can’t stand her.” [11:02]

• Discussion of Kevin Federline’s tell-all, and Heather’s theory that his silence was contractually mandated until child support ended.

• They dissect the paradox of celebrities demanding privacy while posting daily and publicizing their drama.

  • Heather: “Privacy? You’ve been posting three times a day for the last four years, like a maniac.” [14:43]

• Reflection on how BravoCon or fan interaction never reflects toxic online hate, and how the audience’s view of Britney is stuck in sympathy mode, despite her problematic conduct.

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3. Kim Kardashian & “All Is Fair” TV Show Debacle

• [23:15] Heather and Jacques unpack Kim Kardashian’s starring role in Ryan Murphy’s new legal drama.

  • The show has been panned by critics but ironically generated more interest as a “must-see disaster.”
  • Both agree the campy, over-the-top styling is part of its appeal, likening it to "Selling Sunset" but scripted.
  • Quote, Jacques: “Ryan Murphy shows are like, pretty bad generally…It’s just because Kim Kardashian is leading the show that they’re, like, 0%.” [25:20]

• Discussion about the Kardashian/Jenner family’s relentless product tie-ins, wigs, and social-media machinations.

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4. Bravo Shake-Ups: New Casts and Social Media Drama

• [43:00] The new Vanderpump Rules season: almost the entire cast has been replaced, reflecting a generational and influencer-driven shift.

  • The duo share skepticism over whether the show’s original magic can be recaptured with strangers.
  • Jacques reveals one cast member has an OnlyFans—and details Bravo’s increasing inclusion of LGBTQ+ members for drama.

• [47:59] They critique how Housewives now force sexualized, over-the-top party themes that have little to do with the intended audience ("Why are we like whoring out 50-year-old women...?").

  • Quote, Heather: “We’re not wearing S&M outfits…We don’t need to see your vagina cleavage.” [49:27]

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5. Beverly Hills, Salt Lake City & OC: Cast, Scandals, and Informants

• [53:38] The “Kyle and Morgan” rumors: Jacques and Heather think Kyle is likely bisexual and speculate on her relationship history.

  • Heather’s theory: “I don’t think that Morgan was the first girl that she was with. I think that she was very sexual with Mauricio…I think they probably had threesomes.” [55:08]

• A new “juicy” housewife on Beverly Hills—Amanda Francis—already has her mugshot unearthed.

• [61:06] Discussion of cross-pollination in Bravo casting—Heather argues for more franchise mixing, citing Heather Dubrow’s podcasting journey as a cautionary tale about chasing new formats.

• [62:18] The “Bravo informant” storyline:

  • A masked, voice-muffled individual claims to know everything happening behind the scenes, spilling on Tamra’s alleged contract breaches.
  • Jacques is skeptical about anonymous sources being featured (“We need to fact-check that person…You can’t come on with a scream voice scrambler and accuse Tamra…” [64:45]).
  • Ongoing critique of how Bravo and Housewives weaponize bloggers and social accounts for on-air drama.

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6. Reality TV and Social Media Pitfalls

• Debates about policing “likes” on Instagram as a measure of political or social allegiance—citing recent examples with Gretchen Rossi, Cynthia Bailey, and more.

• Heather and Jacques agree: the fandom’s obsessive digital sleuthing is both exhausting and misdirected.

• [71:25] Jacques suggests the Australian model, where networks control reality stars’ social media to protect them from trolling and leaks.

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7. Selling Sunset & Celebrity Relationships

• [72:13] Reality TV “likes” become storylines, like with Chrishell and G Flip (they/them pronouns), and the new trend of casting minor celebrities for Selling Sunset.
• Discussion of Jennifer Aniston’s new “life coach/hypnotist” boyfriend. Both hosts poke fun at the guru industry.
  • Quote, Heather (mock-guru): “Today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow. No truer words have been spoken.” [80:14]

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8. Quick Hits: Celebrity Gossip

• Charlie Sheen clarifies his sexual experience with men (“not butt stuff”), prompting collective eye rolls and dark jokes about oversharing.
• Katy Perry’s rumored romance with Justin Trudeau: both remain unconvinced it’s a publicity flex.
• Jacques laments the forced sexualization and over-the-top antics in recent reality programming, calling for sillier (not sexier) theme parties.

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9. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Meghan Markle’s PR:
  “Definitely staged. You can see that with her PR lately…now she’s, like, at the Balenciaga shows…This was definitely part of that—tripod in the corner.” — Jacques, [04:29]

• On Britney Spears:
  “Just because you’re mentally ill…It doesn’t give you the right to be horrible to everyone and crazy and unhinged all the time…She victimizes herself all the time. She has, like, a huge victim complex about everything. She’s the victim of everybody—and she’s horrible.” — Jacques, [11:02] and [16:34]

• On reality TV authenticity:
  “Not everyone has to be a TikTok personality, spilling their beans and crying on camera…If it’s not you, it’s not you.” — Heather, [07:29]

• On Bravo's recasting:
  “Your shift has begun. And if there’s any moment in reality show history that is more like, ‘you’re disposable,’ it’s Vanderpump Rules, 100%.” — Heather, [43:16]

• On Housewives’ sexualized parties:
  “Why are we like whoring out 50-year-old women in, like, very…frequent S&M outfits? What the fuck?” — Heather, [47:59]

• On the future of messy reality:
  “We could have her [Heather Dubrow] on both [franchises]…I think we should be doing more crossovers in general.” — Jacques, [61:06]

• On informant drama and Bravo leaks:
  “That’s just an anonymous person. Like, we need to fact check that person…you can’t come on with a Scream voice scrambler and accuse Tamra of whatever.” — Jacques, [64:45]

• On Instagram-fueled outrage:
  “I just don’t want to like anything anymore because God forbid…then you could say, ‘Well actually, I disabled my like button in 2025!’” — Heather, [69:57]

• On guru relationships:
  “She needs to sit down for a coffee with Denise Richards and find out what it’s like to date a very hot, hung LA life coach.” — Jacques, [80:34]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Meghan Markle’s Dodgers Video: 03:00–07:00
• Britney Spears & Federline Book: 10:50–17:27
• Kim Kardashian in ‘All Is Fair’ TV Show: 23:15–31:53
• Bravo Recasting and New Reality TV: 43:00–49:40
• Bravo Leaks, OC Informants, Social Media: 61:06–66:38
• Selling Sunset & Life Coach Culture: 72:13–82:00
• Charlie Sheen/Katy Perry & Quick Gossip: 84:02–87:32

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Tone & Style

The episode is full of snark, real-time media analysis, and honest hot takes. Heather and Jacques are unfiltered and quick-witted, bouncing effortlessly from pop culture critique to inside jokes to personal anecdotes.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode offers a sharp and irreverent recap of recent Hollywood gossip, reality TV twists, and influencer shenanigans. With bold, sometimes controversial opinions and clear knowledge of the industry’s workings, Heather and Jacques keep things both informative and highly entertaining.

Expect ample shade, a few explosive takes (especially on Britney, Meghan, and the Kardashians), behind-the-scenes insights into reality TV machinery, and a healthy skepticism about influencer culture.

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Closing

Follow Jacques Peterson on Instagram (@npopularjp) and find his work on the Daily Mail for more hot takes and media scoops.

For all things Heather and Juicy Scoop—including live shows, merch, and archives—visit heathermcdonald.net.

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Transcript

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[B]

She talks Hollywood tales For real life.

[A]

Mr. Sacred, cereal data and cereal Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in. Listen up. Woo. Woo. Hannah McDonald, juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I have some very exciting news because you guys have been begging and praying and I want to make you happy. And yes, you will be able to stream my live show on Friday, November 14th from Las Vegas BravoCon weekend. And you're going to go to Patreon because at Patreon there is going to be an exclusive opportunity at the best price to to purchase that streamer ticket. If you've not joined Patreon now you can for only $5. You get an extra Juicy Scoop episode every Friday plus the chance to buy the streamer at an exclusive price to Patreon members. So go over to heathermcdonald.net and change your life if you're not part of it. You get all of my episodes starting from nine years ago and they're all commercial free and they're all exclusive just to Patreon. So. So check it out and enjoy. Let's get started. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We've got a jam packed show with a return favorite, our Australian cutie with a brain, Jacques Peterson, writer for Daily Mail. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.

[B]

Australian cutie with a brain. I love that. I should get that on a T shirt. Thanks for having me back.

[A]

Yeah, well, a lot of people, you know, get swayed and they just think that Australians are just about good looks. Yeah.

[B]

And we have brains, too. Some of us.

[A]

You do. Let's get into. We have so much to cover. I want to just get right into it with you. So over the weekend, you know, our team, the Dodgers, won World Series 2 back to back. And people are very. We're very excited. They're fun parties. It wasn't played here, so there wasn't as many, like, celebrities in Canada at the time cheering it on. But people wanted to make sure that the world knew that they were fans. And one of those people, people were Meghan Markle. And I think this video, it might be the nail in the jam. I mean, I just was like, so she's in a movie theater of a home movie theater. Harry is sitting just like exhausted with his life, is sitting there. And she's got one friend. They're all both, like, casually dressed. And it was so, like, yay. Like, it was like, are you 90? Like, are you 80? Like, I felt like she was like. And she hugs him. And this is what it's like the opposite of authentic. Now. If you were truly watching the game and you were truly like, I just want to catch this moment. You would have been like filming the TV and then being like, holy shit, we fucking won. You know? But instead they won. She went and got a tripod. She put the camera there. She went. I think this was probably the fifth take, hence why Harry was exhausted and then danced with her one paid friend and then put it in black and white because maybe she didn't like how she looked and posted it then.

[B]

I mean, the black and white with them there in the dark, it looks like Paranormal Activity or the Purge or something. It looks like a horror film and definitely staged. You can see that with her PR lately that she's trying to do a more down to earth thing. I think before she was doing the like, okay, I'm too good for this. Like, I'm above it. There's some mystique now. She's like, at the Balenciaga shows, she's going to fashion shows, she's like getting out and about more. So, yeah, this was. This was definitely part of that tripod in the corner.

[A]

I mean, I've talked a lot about her, obviously, because I am. I am just fascinated. I'll say it again. Like, you could have been princess. You had it all. You could. I. People say no. I believe that she could have really played this differently and had it all and she could have had a more high end talk show type of a thing, which is what I predicted years ago in England. She could have, you know, still. But been princess with something else going on. Now she's just. How soon before she has lunch with Alex Baskin to be on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and they move from Montecito to Beverly Hills.

[B]

Do you think that is definitely in the works? For sure. I still think we're like a few more years. She's got to lose the Netflix deal.

[A]

But that's almost done.

[B]

Yeah, I mean that's on its last legs and what else is there to do? I mean no one cared about the second season of the cooking show. What she needs to do is just to bring back. Remember when she. The Meghan and Harry and they were kind of spilling tea about the royals and about her getting bullied. The first docuseries. She just needs to do like a high end docu series, like kind of like the Kardashians do. You know, it's very curated, but she just needs to do her own version of that. Give us some time.

[A]

No, we've already done that. There was not enough with everybody. That's what she was trying to do. Well, I think she's making the food and.

[B]

Yes, no, she's doing that.

[A]

Why are you laughing so hard?

[B]

No, but it needs to be more about her personal life. So she needs to be showing more of a real life, more of a relationship with Harry. You've got to show the kids. You've got to show.

[A]

I just don't think there is a real thing. I mean, did you see when they went to the game?

[B]

No. What they went to the.

[A]

What they wore like he had like a blazer on and she had something else and you know, it was like, just like they look like they had come from work. Like we just, we just got off at the law firm and we're just going to pop by before we drive home. We're going to just pop by Dodger Stadium and. And like apparently they were booed or whatever. I don't think they deserve to be booed. They're fine. But like, I don't know, it's just.

[B]

I think there are some people that are just whatever it is, their personality, they're incapable of kind of being authentic in front of a camera. I'm sure that when she's in private just with Harry in The bedroom alone or whatever. There's like a real Megan, but I don't think we'll ever see it on camera. I don't think the whole thing.

[A]

I just think there's such a. I think it's such an uncomfortable place where we're in right now with like the state of Hollywood where these big stars are being told you have to be authentic on camera. But then it's like a fake. Authentic.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So it's like, you know, okay, get ready with me while I go to my mom's funeral. Like, we don't have to see everything. We don't have to. Like, it's not about you not having makeup on or whatever. If it's not you, it's not you. Just not. Everyone has to be a TikTok personality spilling their beans and crying on camera and sitting in their car and explaining that there was a mean mom at the school.

[B]

I feel like the only person that's got away with it is like Lauren Conrad. Because we never see her. She never posts or anything, but she's still making all this money off her coals.

[A]

Oh my gosh, you're right. We don't ever really see her.

[B]

She doesn't do anything. She doesn't go anywhere. And you know, it's lucky. Yeah. I was thinking to myself, I'm like, there's no way that Coleslight is still making money. And then what is it called? You know, Kohl's, like the store. It's like a budget Kohl's.

[A]

Yeah. She has clothes and Coles.

[B]

Yes. She has like a clothing line that she's had since like the Hills or Laguna beach or whatever. And I was thinking, there's no way she's still making money off that. Cause like, Kohl's is, you know, not high end. And I looked into their like earnings report and it's still like their top brand. So she's just sitting out there in Orange county, in Newport, not posting and.

[A]

Not having to film every second.

[B]

No. And making the.

[A]

Not having to do. Tell her husband. Okay, just one more time, I'm gonna walk into frame. Cause I mean, that means. If you were to believe this, that means that we had the camera running during the entire time of us watching the game. Which is also fucking weird.

[B]

Yeah, like, like, but you know, you do that with your family. You were just joking the other day about how you did the Andy Cohen recreation.

[A]

My poor Brandon. So I went when Andy Cohen had that monumental moment where he never was really doing like sit down interviews or anything at that point. And he went to Sag harbor to meet with Luann after Tom and she broke up. And he's like, with a bottle of. And I immediately got my son a blue shirt. I put talcum powder in his hair to make it look gray, and I made him do it. And then so someone had reminded me of that clip. And I went and I found it. Cause then I saw the date and I'm like, oh, I could find this. And I re. Put it. And Annie did put, like, a bunch of explanation marks in there.

[B]

That'd be Prince Archie's stuff.

[A]

Yeah, I've done those things, of course. But it's a sketch. Yeah, I'm not. That's what I'm saying. Like, do funny stuff. Do whatever. But don't act like, you know.

[B]

Well, she can't do anything, right? Because it's like, before, she wasn't doing anything. She wasn't posting. And then we all hated her. Like, where is she? Why isn't she doing anything? So then she tries to do these stupid Instagram videos of, like, you know, oh, I'm making a care package for Billie Eilish or whatever she's doing. And then we hate that. So I don't think she can really do anything.

[A]

Yeah. So. But of course I was like, when we were watching the Dodgers, I go, oh, to my son Drake, I go, do you think that the city is gonna have to burn down again? Cause at least it wasn't at Dodger Stadium. And of course, sure enough, yeah, they had to get the cops and the horses. People. I'm always like, why are people. Why do people have to, like, damage property? Cause their team won.

[B]

Yeah, they never get it UK all the time, too. You always see the soccer hooligans, like, jumping on cars and stuff. It's like, calm the fuck down.

[A]

I'll never get over when, like, Philly won for something and that guy went crazy and ate the horseshit. Do you remember that?

[B]

No.

[A]

It's a viral video.

[B]

Maybe Megan should do. To show how relatable she is.

[A]

Britney Spears deleted her Instagram account. Do you know anything about that?

[B]

No, but can I have a controversial take on Britney?

[A]

Of course you can. This is Juicy Scoop.

[B]

I just think she's an awful, toxic, horrible, mean, allegedly substance abuse issues, crazy, gross person. I can't stand her. I just. I think she's. I think she's horrible. And I think she is, like, the epitome of, you know, everyone has dealt with mental illness, right? With, you know, a family member or a friend or Whatever. And eventually gets to a point where it's like, just because you're mentally ill, you're not taking care of yourself. And it doesn't give you the right to be, like, you know, horrible to everyone and crazy and unhinged all the time. And. Yeah, I don't like her. I think she's horrible to her sister, Jamie Lynn. Um, I think she's horrible to Justin Timberlake. I think she's horrible to her own children. Um, the way she kind of puts them on blast all the time. I think she's gross. I'm sick of her. Uh, yeah, I'm not a fan.

[A]

I think she deleted her Instagram. Because with Kevin Federline's book, which I. Someone said, you can't read it. You can only listen to the audio.

[B]

I got the audiobook. Yeah, I was listening. It was pretty good. I've only, like.

[A]

Did that affect what your opinion was just now?

[B]

I always had this opinion.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And look, do I think that he's putting the book out to get some money. Cause the child support ran out or whatever? Yes, he clearly timed it that way. But I think.

[A]

I think that also there was something in his agreement with the child support that he could not do interviews or write books or say anything disparaging about her while the money was coming in.

[B]

That makes sense.

[A]

So I think he had to wait regardless. So that's my just opinion of, like putting two and two together. I think after the incident that happened, where they. Where she was weaving in and out on the road, which is, again, her.

[B]

Fans, though, give her a pass for everything. She could have killed someone. She's like, drunk or whatever or just.

[A]

A super bad driver.

[B]

Well, you know, she's clearly completely, deeply mentally ill. And she's swerving along the road on the wrong side of the road. I mean, she's like a menace to society.

[A]

I mean, so she lives very close to where I live. And when I interviewed Sam, I explained where I lived. And he goes, oh, you're very close to Brittany. Watch out on the road. He said that. And I was like, what I would ever see it? Or, you know, and so I like, when I see that, the video, I'm like, that's the road to, like, where my neighborhood is. And I was kind of like. So what I think happened is she was getting really mad about the press coming out from his book. And, you know, the most disparaging stuff is that the boys got to a place where they didn't want to do the visits anymore because of her erratic.

[B]

Behavior because she's strolling around smearing feces on the wall in her brown hunch like a crazy person. And then it's like, why don't my kids want to see me? Like, you were standing over their bed with a butcher's knife. Maybe that's why. Allegedly. That's in his book. That's in his book.

[A]

And it's really hard when you are the parent and the kids are supposed to go to the other parent. Okay. Because I'm a stepparent, too, and they don't want to go. And then you're forcing them, even though you're forcing them because, like, A, that is the other parent, or B, it's legally or whatever. And then they are so mad that you made them go that then when they come back, they're mad at you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's the stuff that no one thinks about that Kevin probably had to deal with, you know? And so, in doing. In saying this, so I think she was like, I just want privacy. I'm a pretty smart woman. I just want privacy. And I'm like, privacy? You've been posting three times a day.

[B]

For the last four years, like a maniac.

[A]

Very naked, very all over the place. So I'm like, if you want privacy, why do you have an Instagram account? And then she got rid of it.

[B]

It'll be bad. She's deleted it before.

[A]

But I'm just saying, I think that was kind of a good move on her part. If she's really claiming that she wants that. It's the same thing where they always make fun of the cartoon of what? Was it not south? Is it south park, where there's the privacy tour.

[B]

Meghan and Harry.

[A]

Yeah. So it's true. It's like, don't say that you want that and cry about it. Because it's the same thing when someone says, like, I'm being tortured every day. And I'm like, what are you being tortured from opening your phone and looking at what someone wrote or reading the articles about, you know, I can't take this country anymore, whatever it is. It's like, you could just not look at that. You could just wake up, you know, read an actual paper or only go to one news site and then put it away and read a book. And, like, I mean, you could. Even if not, if it's really bothering you that much, then you don't have to look at it.

[B]

Like, I'm friends with a lot of, like, reality TV villains, like, people that get hated. I'm always become friends with whoever people hate the most. And somehow. And whenever I talk to them, they're like, no one says anything to them in real life. They're like, yeah, I go on Instagram people telling me to kill myself, and then I go out to get coffee and people want a photo. They love me.

[A]

Exactly. You're telling me that any person that's paid for a ticket at BravoCon, who has. If you're in Bravo Con, you have your favorites and your hates. Any single person that is a Bravo celebrity will be approached by I love you, I love you. I just want a photo. I love you. And that. And they'll never know if that was the person that was, you know, cat eye 54 that has been writing them shit for the last, you know, 500 days.

[B]

But I'm just over the whole Britney Sympathy thing of like, yes, we all had sympathy for her when she came out of the conservatorship and everything. She's. But it reaches a point where it's just like a repeated pattern of toxic behavior. And now there's this whole like, oh, poor Britney. Like, why is Kevin telling his story? Why shouldn't he? Like, she wrote a book that. And she was. She had a. By the way, I did a lot of fact checking on that book. When it came out for Daily Mail, I did a story. It's Britney's book. Yeah, Britney's book. And there was a lot of factual inaccuracies there about. Like what? Like, about Justin. The way that she framed what happened with Justin did not add up. The way that she made out. Like, he cheat. No, she was cheating on him. Like. Cause she victimizes herself all the time. She has, like a huge victim complex about everything. She's the victim of everybody and she's horrible. And then her fans, you know, send Jamie Lynn death threats and stuff. And it's like, Kevin can tell his story. Like, Kevin's allowed to. She can write a book.

[A]

He can write a book that's 100%, you know, like. And I've said for years, like, it cannot. It's not gonna be fun to co parent with Britney Spears. It's not fun to co parent with Kanye West. Like, it's the worst situation to be in because you're the main parent. And it's just a very. People don't realize how hard that is. And sometimes they just always want to just be like, get a job. You know, Kevin, it's like, okay, fine. But like, he did raise five kids.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And if that was a woman, you wouldn't be saying that about her. And if she had a crazy ex musician that was on the road and not seeing the kids, you know, it's like.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm sure he does a few like he must be like a DJ or something doing odd gigs. But it was like when Denise Richards was raising all of Brooke and Charlie's crazy kids and we were like mother of the year because she was amazing taking on all that responsibility.

[A]

Right, the twin boys.

[B]

Yeah. That's what Kevin's been doing.

[A]

Right.

[B]

For all these years. So.

[A]

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[B]

I mean, I don't know. There's a bunch of Louis Vuitton.

[A]

So it's just. The photo was in the back, so I didn't know if you recognized it.

[B]

Oh, you know what? I do recognize that one. Yes. That's right in the middle of Sydney in, like, the main. Yes.

[A]

And he said, oh, my God. You know, they thought. My friends and I went in there and they thought we were gonna steal the place.

[B]

I mean, have you looked in the mirror?

[A]

I mean, can you blame them?

[B]

Like, all right.

[A]

I mean, I think one of the scariest jobs in the last four years must be working at a Louis Vuitton.

[B]

With all the smash and grabs and stuff.

[A]

Smash and grabs where you're just supposed to just not do anything. Thank God. Don't, you know, you're some little twink trying to sell $800 belt. We're not expecting you to, like, save the goods. Like, please stand in the back and save yourself. But, yeah. So anyway, do you think in his transformation, there'll be a time where he goes in and removes some of the face tattoos, maybe? I think it could happen.

[B]

Yeah. I could see it, like, in the.

[A]

Next, like, three years.

[B]

Yeah. Well, you know, his. Have you seen his wife, Bunny? Yes, Bunny xo. Yes. I just saw on Instagram she posted all of her mug shots. She had, like, a bunch of mug shots. So I'm not surprised that they're getting confused for, you know, they look like criminals. They literally look like they're about to smash. He's like, yeah, she might.

[A]

Because I haven't been treated like this since I was an actual criminal. And I'm like, well, you know, even Bethany Frankel wasn't allowed in Chanel. So it's like, these people, they're doing their best. Okay? They're doing their best. And there you go, I'm sure they'll.

[B]

Send him some free, free things now because he did that. You'll get a free shirt or something.

[A]

Do you think he will? Oh, because Bethany did. Right?

[B]

Yeah. I think I'll send a package now.

[A]

Meghan Markle does a video. Oh, my God. I was profiled. I didn't, you know, I'm just wearing this very simple white blouse, Sara pants. And I walked into Cartier just to look at a simple bracelet. And they looked at me, my poor child, like, yeah, that'll be the. That's what you gotta do.

[B]

That's what.

[A]

Now everyone's gonna be doing that, trying to get a free thing. All is Fair. The Ryan Murphy scripted series, which I believe is on Hulu. You can watch. I think you can watch the whole thing.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's all out.

[A]

And I never understand why sometimes Hulu, it's once a week and sometimes it's the whole thing. Sometimes they.

[B]

Yeah, it's like very confusing.

[A]

They tease you and give you like two and then you're like, oh, now I have to wait. Whatever.

[B]

Blubb is blind is like three at a time. Like every show. Every show is different.

[A]

So we've all seen the previews, we've seen the outfits. They're LA divorce attorneys at an all female law firm. And I thought the concept seemed great and fun. It's been critically panned to that. I'll say. I mean, in the age of social media, Roger and Ebert of yesteryear do not really hold the power where they could make or break a movie or a film. If anything, I think all this press of saying it's like the worst thing ever is going to make people want to watch it.

[B]

I wanted to watch it.

[A]

Curious.

[B]

Me too. I was like, not going to watch this. And then they were like, it has zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm like, oh, I've got to watch this now. Yeah, so, yeah, I think it's working.

[A]

I mean, listen, my sister is a criminal defense attorney. She's in court every day and it's very realistic because she wears leather gloves up to her armpits and a corset and a thong when she is presenting in front of a jury. So I don't know why people. I mean, it's. Yes, it's all ridiculous, but that's why you're watching it. It's like selling Sunset, but scripted.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

Of course, when you're just in. When you don't have a court appearance, you're not gonna be wearing this, you know, Three layers of coats, all monochromatic and, like. And you're not gonna be. Also, you're not gonna be as rich as she. They use that one house that. They always use that.

[B]

A big mansion.

[A]

That big mansion with the hugest door, like the Alban Brothers. Like, everyone's had the listing. I don't know if anyone's bought it. And that's supposed to be, like, Kim's house as the attorney. And I'm like, oh, trust me, attorneys don't make that much.

[B]

But Ryan Murphy shows are, like, pretty bad generally. I mean, some of them end up hitting.

[A]

Those should be kind of camp.

[B]

They're all campy and cheesy. And I saw some clips from this, and it was a hot mess. But it was just typical Ryan Murphy. And it's just because Kim Kardashian is leading the show that they're like 0%, whereas sure to be, you know, 25% if she wasn't in it.

[A]

Well, I saw a commercial they put out for Courtney's new gummy, which is. I think it's supposed to get your. Get lube going on naturally in your crotch or something. I don't know what it's for, but it was so well done. I thought it was so clever. It shows Courtney coming in. She takes the stand. Kim is the attorney asking questions, and she's like, you've been gatekeeping. We're supposed to share all of our stuff. And you. You're not telling me about what is in your gummy or whatever. And I thought she acted very much like an attorney in this commercial. And I thought it was clever. I think they made fun of themselves. And it was shot beautifully. So I was like, yeah, I think it's all good. She's supposed to find out she passed the bar. She said that she failed the first time. Cause she relied on studying with ChatGPT. And people were like. I thought the whole thing of what she did was she did not go to law school, which you don't have to do in California. You just have to pass the bar. So she had these problems, Private tutors the whole time. So I don't know why the private tutors didn't help her in the end. But ChatGPT, I mean, can help with studying. So I don't know why she's mad at it.

[B]

Yeah. Also, why is Courtney Kardashian always, you know, pissy at her sisters and Kim? But then she's using Kim's show to promote her gummies. You know, I feel like Courtney always has, like, A attitude about, you know, having to work and. And her sisters, and then she's like, still on Kim's coattails. I really don't. I used to be team Courtney, and I really come around to team Kim. I'm like, courtney is just, like, lazy and negative all the time.

[A]

People are saying, like, in the new season that she's like, you know, I'm just over it. I'm over getting all dressed up like you guys are, and that just doesn't matter to me anymore. So, like, either deal with it or I just don't care. And people are like, well, that's fine that you don't care, but. Or you're lazy or whatever, but don't then criticize your sisters for giving us a show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, thank you, Chloe.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

I want to know, and I really need the juicy scoopers to answer this for me. Like, if I was going to die tomorrow, and they'd say, like, what are the five things that you need to know? I need to know what all of those girls hair really is.

[B]

Oh, the Kardashians.

[A]

Like, I don't, because one time you'll see Courtney with a short bob, and then the next it's long, and then the next it's like, this must be wigs and wigs. It's all wigs. But which are any of those looks? Actually, their hair is everything wigs now.

[B]

Like, they could have just a bold cap, and everything is a wig.

[A]

I think everything might be a wig. And I just want to know what is their real hair. And when they're not filming, do they get to have. Cause I, like, wore one wig. I went as Heidi for one wig on Halloween, and I'm like, I need to drink because it's uncomfortable.

[B]

I can imagine it's not a fun.

[A]

Thing to have a wig on. But you didn't have a wig.

[B]

Probably. It wasn't, like, sewn on it. Wasn't it just like.

[A]

No, I did a wig cap and I put it on, but it's still. You feel like a. A tightness on your head.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's not as comfortable as having real hair. And even when I do have, like, a special occasion, I do, like a clip in hair. I can feel it. Like, I can't wait to get it out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I just. I don't know. I need to know that.

[B]

But I think you just get used to it, you know, like women that wear high heels all the time.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Accustomed to it. Yeah. I think it's like that.

[A]

Yeah. And then once you don't, then you're like, never want to go back. All of a sudden you're like, oh, my God, walking is so pleasurable. Have tennis shoes on. But I did see this, see some videos of people talking about that show. And they are. A couple of people are concerned about her and Travis Barker. Oh. And I'm like, well, listen, you know, the honeymoon is over and hopefully they'll stay together forever. But maybe that's where like, a little bit of like the bitterness is that, like the excitement's over and like anything else, maybe it's not as, you know, crawling on each other all the time. And now you have your child that you're taking care of, which is like, you're not going to be able to give each other as much attention. But hopefully they're fine. Okay. Yeah. They, in the show, they had Jessica.

[B]

Simpson, who doesn't want to watch that. Look at her did.

[A]

They did like a weird prosthetic makeup thing. Like she had botched plastic. Plastic surgery. And I thought that's sounds like a fun story, of course. And they do like flashbacks and I don't know, I think it looks good.

[B]

You know what's so funny with Jessica Simpson, right? You know, if you see her interviewed now, you're like, she's on, like she's kind of slurring and she's not the same as she used to be. They kind of like she's like that on the show. But she's meant to be like this drunk, pilled out housewife on the show. So it kind of like works for her character, even though she's just talking like she normally talks. And I also posted, I posted a clip of that on my Instagram. Then everyone was responding, thinking that's what she actually looks like. They didn't realize it was prosthetics for acting.

[A]

Yeah. Like, they made it so like it looked like, like her brow lift or whatever had fallen.

[B]

People thought like, what has she done to her face?

[A]

So then Kim is wearing. See now like, I wonder if that is her real hair that's on because it's like a bob anyway. She has, you know, a tie, a shirt, a vest, and then these pants that just show her G string and. Yeah. Cause she's obviously has to, you know, go to a. An accord appearance. Hilarious.

[B]

Do you think like Naomi Watts, the other A listers that are in the show, do you think they're pissed that the show's getting bad reviews or do you think they're just having fun with it?

[A]

I Just think that Hollywood has changed so much that people are just happy to work. And I think that she is probably from. There's one thing that people have said about Kim, total professional, always on time and pleasant and a hard worker. So whether they. She's. You think her acting's great or it's not, I. There's no doubt in my mind that she knew her lines, that she got it done. And so I think. And I think they know that by having her, this is, like, a hit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I just. No, I don't. I think they're like, this is where we're at, and we don't have to do the heavy lifting. And it looks like they really had, like, a fun friendship. Like, she and Sarah Paulson are, like, cracking up, and, like, oh, they're best buddies. And so I'm like, sarah Paulson, a fun set, huh?

[B]

Sarah Paulson will probably be on Kardashian soon on Hulu, maybe. She already is, probably.

[A]

And the friendship could, like, you know, definitely last. And, like. Yeah, I think that they're just a bunch of, like, fun, smart women who are, like, who the fuck cares? Like, you know, Glenn Close has nothing to prove.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you see that? That she had never seen Fatal Attraction?

[B]

Oh, she's never seen it.

[A]

No. Kim Kardashian, there was some scene, and Kris is like, what do you mean you've never seen Fatal Attract? And it's like, the greatest movie ever. And so.

[B]

Well, you know, who might be pissed about the reviews? I've heard Niecy Nash is on the show. Yeah. And I've heard, like, multiple stories that she is, like, not nice. And that when she. Yeah, I've heard.

[A]

I've worked with Niecy.

[B]

And how was she? Lovely. Really? So I talked to Reno911.

[A]

It was a really long time ago, but then I've run into her at social occasions a few other times, and she's totally fun and lovely.

[B]

Okay, well, that's good, because I've heard the complete opposite. And I heard, especially when she got the Emmy or whatever for she won something for one of the Ryan Murphy shows, and they said that her ego totally blew up and she was, like, really rude. And then someone said she was rude to me at a party, and then I heard she was, like, the most difficult on Reno. So I don't know, but I heard she just takes herself very seriously now. So I wonder if she's not happy with the reviews. Allegedly.

[A]

Well, you never know, you know? And just because my experience is positive, doesn't Mean that, you know, you.

[B]

But you always point this out too, as well. Like, you can have, like, being in the public eye. You kind of can't have one bad day because it's like the people that I know that have had a bad experience with her, maybe she was just stressed out or something after filming all day or whatever, and she was a bit short. And now suddenly, like, it gets out there.

[A]

So, you know, I mean, just think about when you. Your own business, and it's like, what do you mean the supplies didn't come in? You know, and you're like, on the phone, you're freaking out, and you're like, what? Where's my coffee? You know, and then so now you're a star, and someone's like, I saw you at Starbucks being a bitch. You know, and it's like, so.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't know. But you never know. Okay, so then Bianca is still out wearing ridiculous outfits.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

And this side view, I realized, I think, in my opinion, that she's had some filler in her butt too. When the thigh doesn't match the leg.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Is not an enormous amount, just some. So she has to still go out and wear a bra, a weird pink corset underwear, a G string underwear under sheer tights that are not flattering. And she has to walk around like that with Kanye while he's in, you know, a black trash bag. Edge. When is this gonna end?

[B]

Well, I, like, they've switched up the color scheme because before it was always the nudes. She was always.

[A]

I can't wait for when he. When she does her Kay fed.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And we finally get to know what the fuck was happening.

[B]

Literally, I've been waiting for years, and I'm surprised that they're still like that. It's gone on this long, and she doesn't speak. She doesn't do interviews.

[A]

No.

[B]

Like, and it just makes you want to know more about her. She doesn't talk to anybody.

[A]

What were you saying when she does the nylons all the way up to her top of her tits.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

One long egg nylon all the way up to your boobs. Yeah.

[B]

And, yeah, I'm dying to. I think she, you know, I think she's into it. Like, I think she's. I think she's into it. I think she's. I do think she's, like, a weird sexual exhibitionist. You know, originally I thought that was just people kind of projecting and. And stuff. And now I actually think, like, she is because, you know, you hear all the stories about Kanye and I've talked to porn stars that have had sex with Kanye and about his, you know, sexual appetite and everything. So he's definitely women. Yeah, they were women. Because I was like, isn't he secretly gay? And they were like, oh, no. Know like he's. And he's very into this.

[A]

Allegedly. Allegedly.

[B]

Allegedly. Allegedly. He's into this body, the Kim. Like he likes that. The voluptuous. Like he has specifically as the type. He likes the big bbl, big juicy booty, light skinned, big titties. The whole thing. Yeah. And I think, I think she's into it. I think they're just sexual freaks. There was also some like lawsuits. We don't know if they're true or not, but they were naming her in it, so. Yeah, I just think she's like some weird.

[A]

Bianca was.

[B]

Yeah, they named her for doing some stuff in there too. And he wanted to have sex with. With whatever. Allegedly. But I know this is in like a lawsuit somewhere. He wanted to like have sex with her mother or something like that.

[A]

The sister or something.

[B]

No, that he wanted the mother as well. So I just think there's some weird stuff going on and I think she's into that.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

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[B]

Of time on it. There are also people. People are still so obsessed. I feel like you say one wrong thing, and the Justin Baldoni fans come.

[A]

Out like, they're like, it's not over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. So what I know is the trial is still happening in March 26th. So she did that complaint, like, a real legal complaint, saying that she was sexually harassed because it was done like that. Then. Then you could write about it. You can write about a lawsuit. And then he sued for defamation. The publication. He didn't win that. He was suing for defamation. He then dropped that because it really. The judge said, you need. No, the judge said it's. That's not gonna fly. Because then it's like, anybody that ever sued for harassment could be sued for defamation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So there. So no, but they're like, he failed to appeal it. No, he let that go. He's still fighting her lawsuit, and she is still asking him for legal fees for her to bring the lawsuit or something.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So like I said, people screaming. I know I didn't explain it Right. The point is it's still happening March 26, but his $400 million lawsuit against her is not happening anymore. No matter how else you want to say it, it's not happening now. He's just defending himself.

[B]

Okay. I mean, I don't like either of them, and I'm not that invested in it, but I do think she's worse Baldoni fans. And I think it's been fun that she's kind of been outed as so horrible, because there's all, like. I feel like there's still. People are still digging up new red carpet clips of her being mean to, like, an interviewer. So I love watching them whenever My algorithm feeds me her being a bitch on the red carpet. I love it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And, yeah, I want to know if she's still friends with Taylor Swift. I feel like that hasn't really been answered but properly yet.

[A]

Well, the big thing is if she's.

[B]

At the wedding or not.

[A]

Right. I almost couldn't remember if they got married or not. Where are we in this? No, they're engaged. They haven't gotten married yet. There's no way that Taylor's not going to have a real wedding, in my opinion. So if there's any kind of, you know, if there's. If there is anything less than 100 people and she's not there. No, the friendship is completely over. The other thought is she wants to keep her distance. And it's like, you know, I still love you, Blake, but, like, I. I not gonna have you at my wedding.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And if that's the case, she's probably like, I don't even want this friend anymore. I'm just don't want her as an enemy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because do we ever, like. I don't know, will she. Does she have to turn over her text messages and stuff?

[B]

Like, Taylor.

[A]

Yeah, like, does Taylor. We still. I don't know where that lands. I guess we'll know in March, because.

[B]

She was involved in the film. Didn't she have a song in it or she gave advice. She gave it.

[A]

Did a song, and then supposedly she was one of the dragons that helped rewrite the scene on the roof. And we've covered, you know. Okay, moving on. Oh, but they also said Blake Lively claims that it ends with us producer failed to hand over the alleged video of his nude wife giving birth. So remember, she said that they like that part of the harassment is that she was almost, like, forced to watch, like, a pornographic scene.

[B]

And then it was a birthing video.

[A]

And they said it was a birthing video of the producer's wife. To just kind of show like, this is just to give you some inspiration or what it should. How we could shoot it. And I don't know if that was necessary. Blake also has given birth four times. So it's like, I think she could have maybe figured that scene out herself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they were like, no, it was completely innocent. It was not like we're getting off on. So I guess she was asking. So her people are asking to see that, and he has failed to show it.

[B]

So it's also like, to be honest. Okay, so say someone showed you that video on your Lance. Kind of like, weird. You don't need like a whole lawsuit over. It's just like, that's just a weird thing.

[A]

It's just the one of many things because you got to build it all up. Like.

[B]

But it's just ridiculous. Like the.

[A]

Okay, the new Vanderpump Rules is here. Out with the new, in with the. No, out with the old, in with the new. Your shift has begun. And if there's any moment in reality show history that is more like your disposable is Vanderpump rules 100% new cast. Except for Lisa.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, even manager Peter is like, not there. Like, there is no grandfathering in somebody. Or like, you know, this person's just gonna show. Like, it's done. Like, we've wiped our hands now. They did it with Roni too.

[B]

Look how well that worked out.

[A]

It didn't work out well. But I also understand why. Because the lightning in the ball that was Vanderpump Rules was these people really knew each other and they really were aspiring actors. Now that there's no acting that really happens in LA anymore, I assume it's trying to be an influencer. Try to do anything in the entertainment industry. And probably the biggest thing is getting cast as a waiter on. On the show. So I kind of went through all the cast members and you said one of the guys is an only fan star.

[B]

Yes, that one.

[A]

He dark haired guy.

[B]

Yeah, he's an only fans guy. And I found he looks a little.

[A]

Long in the tooth. How old is he?

[B]

I don't. I think he's like the Jax Taylor maybe.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know, and someone sent me his. I didn't pay for the only fans, but I saw his like Twitter that he uses to promote it and he had like a different name. It was like actor Axel Stone or something. It was like some porn name. Yes. And it was just. It was a lot of bare ass shots and then bulge photos in his underwear and he looked like he had a big penis. But in the trailer they say that he's using a penis pump. So I don't know.

[A]

That's the storyline.

[B]

Yes. So I don't know how big it is, if it's really that big, if it's a real jawbreaker or if it's just, you know, he's using the penis pump to enhance it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And oh, I did see a video of him showing his armpits and he was saying all my subs, you know, better donate money to me or something. And his apartment didn't look that good. So, you know, that's what he's doing.

[A]

I was reading it and they're like, oh, they get. They're like, basically the way they're doing it, it was like. And this is the drama happens here and all of this. So, I mean, out of curiosity, I think I will watch it, but I didn't really watch the Gen Z, so I don't know. Or the Next Gen or whatever.

[B]

I didn't watch that. But everyone is obsessed with that. Everyone loves it. And that was one of those shows that Next Gen NYC where everyone was like, we don't want to watch this. We don't want to watch Nepo Kids. And then it was like a huge hit. And Pete, it's like their favorite show on Bravo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Everyone that watches it is, like, completely obsessed. They're doing an LA version. So I think people are kind of being negative to this. Like, oh, I don't. I don't want a new cast. But, like, they're all going to watch it and it looks good. I think they did a good job. I just kind of. I still liked the old Vanner pump. I didn't think that it needed to end. I thought people completely overreacted to that last season. I would have been happy to keep watching some form of the original cast. So I kind of just wish this was like, Vanderpump rules.

[A]

I just don't think they could do that when they have the Valley.

[B]

That's true. Yeah.

[A]

Like, it was like, if you did not get transferred, you know, through HR to the Valley, there just isn't a place for you to. Unless you truly were still working there.

[B]

Yeah, I guess, like, if you really.

[A]

Were, like, the manager and, like, if Sheena really was the manager and she really stayed working as a manager because she loved restaurants, then that would be one thing. But, like, yeah, there was really no other way to do it. And I wonder, like, if it's like, remember in the old days, you'd go there and, like, they would actually be doing a shift. They'd actually have to work a shift even though you weren't filming. And so that's probably. She probably has that going for her, too. So now regular people are gonna go back to wanting to go to the restaurant in hopes to see the days of, like, oh, my God, there's Kristen Doughty actually, like, serving a Cosmo.

[B]

Okay. So my thing is as well, like, I actually live. I live in Hollywood near Ronyon Canyon. So I'm not that far from West Hollywood. And every time I've been to, like, sir or Tom by the way they're not like, whatever. Every time I've been there, all the waiters are gay. So I'm like, where are they getting all these straight waiters that are hooking up and stuff? It's always some like jacked, like, Instagram model gay that's giving me a cosmo.

[A]

From what I could tell, because I kept going, there's gotta be at least like a third has gotta be gay on the, in this cast. And then when I was reading through the thing, it didn't sound like any of them.

[B]

No, there's a gay guy with like long hair. Oh, so the one in the back. Yeah, okay, look at that one.

[A]

But I feel like maybe these, maybe these guys will be like, come out as bi or something. I don't know. We'll see.

[B]

Yeah, well, they're putting gays into the casts now because that Southern, Southern hospitality has like a couple gay guys with their gay. You know. Cause the gay guys are really thirsty on these shows, you know, they're like the messiest. So you can kind of get them to do anything. So I think that's the new thing they're making the main cast members now.

[A]

That's so interesting. I saw something where somebody wrote like, you know, when you look at the evolution of the real Housewives of O.C. it's an O.C. in all of them. It's really weird how they, over the years, and I've said this too, why is a show that's for women and gay men? Why are we like whoring out 50 year old women in like, very. Like, they're like, we're going to have a girls night. Everyone wear your favorite S and M outfit. What the fuck? Like, I have girl weekends all the time. We're not wearing S and M outfits. We're having some fucking juicy conversation, some hilarious conversation, but we're not wearing leather G strings and fishnets for fun. Like, it's so weird.

[B]

They were doing something so much of that on the Roni reboot. Like, every episode of that I felt like was like, all right, like truth or dare, like, who's done anal? And I'm like, oh, my God, like, I don't want to watch this.

[A]

And I always, I'm just like, yeah, like, who are these producers, these men? And we know they've been saying, like, okay, you're going to play a game, you know, of what your worst or best sexual position. It's like very sexual stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then like, even with the Amsterdam and oc, the fact that they were told to wear, like, sexy outfits to get into the window and act like they were a hooker or whatever. And it's just like, what. Why are we, like, parading these women around in, like, pantsless outfits?

[B]

It is strange.

[A]

What? We don't want it. Like, we're the audience. We don't need to see your vagina cleavage. We don't need to see it.

[B]

I find it kind of uncomfortable with the constant. I mean, I felt like with the Roni reboot, they were really trying to be like, sex in the same city.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Spittle swallow girls. That is just like, okay, this is too much. Like, I'm trying to eat my Chick Fil A and, like, watch some Bravo and I don't need to see all this.

[A]

Right. And then just how Bri was always like, hi, catalytic. I can make out with you. Like, I'm not going to miss that.

[B]

Well, word on the street that I heard. I mean, I don't have this, like, 100% confirmed or whatever. This is just rumor mill, so it might not be true. But I heard they're only keeping. They're keeping Aaron, Psy and Jessel and all the rest are out. All the rest are new people.

[A]

I mean, I like Jessel, but I don't like the husband trying to be a comedic foodie that I like.

[B]

Do they have a podcast yet?

[A]

I'm sure that's coming.

[B]

Aaron and her husband have one that's about Bryn.

[A]

Brynn stocked hers.

[B]

Yeah. Bryn stopped hers after a few months ago.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Does Jenna have one yet?

[A]

Fashion? No, Jenna's gone.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, she's not coming back. Thank God.

[A]

I just. I was always like, why? Everybody was, like, so excited about, like, Jenna Lions with her, like, greasy ponytail and, like, just a. Like, a jacket for, like, an obese man. And, oh, how sexy that she's not wearing a bra underneath. It's just a big jacket and, like, in her underwear showing, and she's like. I was like, who is this you're not relatable person? Like, you're just, who are you?

[B]

But she wasn't even good on the show. She didn't show a personal life. She didn't make any drama. And they kept trying to frame her like they'd got Donatella Versace, like, some household fan. It's like no one outside of New York knows who this person is.

[A]

I was. I remember one time I was like, okay, like, you worked at J. Crew. Why is that so exciting? And if you're like, you don't understand that she created the knit sweater. I'm like, all right.

[B]

Like, Rebecca Minkoff was a bigger name, and she was awful on the show. So. Yeah. You know, like, with her weird Scientology stu stuff, you know, I got. I think I told you last time, I got, like, stalked by Scientology. I think you forgot supposed to talk about that. So when they cast Rebecca Minkov, I did a Daily Mail story about, like, Rebecca Minkoff's Scientology thing because. Yeah, I won't repeat what the claim is because I don't remember it exactly. And they're very litigious. But it was some weird thing. Someone died in Scientology, and her father was implicated, and it was, like, a whole weird thing.

[A]

The father was a doctor.

[B]

Yes, he was a doctor. And someone died. It was. Look into it. I mean, look. Find my story on Daily Mail.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, I had to go, because as a journalist, you go to comment, Right. So I go to all of them for comment. I go to Rebecca, I go to Scientology, and they started harassing me. They made hate pages about me online of that. I was, like, a crooked journalist that. They said I was a bigot for religious bigotry. Like, they were, like, harassing me. Like, for a while, I was thinking, like, are they gonna be, like, following me? Like, because I'm. I live in Hollywood, near. There's a million. Scientology.

[A]

Right, the big Scientology Center. Yeah.

[B]

You walk past them, though, they just empty these big, empty buildings. They're so weird and creepy. But, yeah, they were harassing me for a while, sending me, like, constant emails. They had all of their Scientologists coming after me on social media. So then I would, like, change my username, and then they would find the new username, and they'd be like, you think you can hide from us? Like, it was, like, crazy. It went on for about a month, and then it just kind of, like, died down. So.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like so much news was about Scientology, I would cover it a lot here. Cause I was, like, intrigued by it. And then we found out everything we needed to know. There's nothing more to find out. And it's like.

[B]

It is.

[A]

And now I feel like Mormon is the next.

[B]

Yeah, I'm like, I'm good to death.

[A]

I'm good with the. Like, you know, I don't need to know any more of, like. Yeah, I know all the stories. I know about the underwear.

[B]

I read the Heather Gay book. It was okay.

[A]

Was there any scoop in it at all? Did you read the second one?

[B]

No, I don't think anyone read the second one, but I read the first one.

[A]

She's Got a third. What's gonna be in the third?

[B]

I don't know what the hell else she can put in there.

[A]

Okay, wait, so let me go back to what we were talking about here. So Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, they dropped the trailer. And the juicy parts of the trailer is that Kyle says to Bose, well, maybe I'll go for Brad or Angelina. And everyone's just like, all right.

[B]

Because that's her way of being like, okay, I'm kind of acknowledging it. Yes, but not really. And I'm still not telling you if I'm with Morgan Wade. It's like we need a hard and fast, are you with Morgan Wade or not? You don't have to have her on the show. You don't have to talk about it the whole season, but we need like one season of you just confirming what it is, what the situation is. Break the fourth wall. Just say she doesn't want to be on the show, she's a musician, and then leave it at that. I don't want any of this more like coy playing around. And look, I'm sure production told the other women, you know, like, don't, don't follow. This is a storyline. Don't start harassing her about Morgan Wade. So she probably makes the.

[A]

Well, I mean, I do think she's bi. That's it.

[B]

I do too.

[A]

And I think that, like, yeah, I think there's something that went on with them. And whether they're just friends now or it's still continuing, fine. But by not going full, like saying I am a lesbian, she's smart. Cause she's like, yeah, I could in a couple years, I could like fall for a guy again, you know, if he's really. Well, so she might just be bi. That's it.

[B]

Well, I mean, it's not that uncommon for like women when they're getting middle aged, to like have go off with another woman. Like my friend.

[A]

I have a theory.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't think that Morgan was the first girl that she was with.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

I think that she was very sexual with Mauricio and I think they probably had threesomes and stuff. That's my just. I know facts. I'm just saying that's what I think. I think they had like a very active sex life and you know, and if he ever stepped out on her, whatever, it was more like la la la la la. Doing on a trip, leave me alone. But. And then eventually, yeah, and then I think she got sober. I think she sought out Morgan. I think there was a Love affair there. And. And it is juicy. Like, that is juicy. Even if she doesn't come out and tell us it, it is interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's an interesting story. We don't need to. It's. It's a story many women have.

[B]

You know, my friend, literally, she was straight, she dated like meathead, like muscle gym guys and stuff, and she just ran off with her lesbian personal trainer. And they're in love and everything. So it's when I see that, I'm.

[A]

Just like, oh, that must be nice.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I was giving us some feedback on it and I was kind of like, you know what's really good about being in a same sex relationship? I was like, me and my boyfriend, we're just like best friends that are attracted to each other. So, you know, we like all the same shit. And it's easy. And you don't have the weird. You know, like, men and women think very differently.

[A]

You're on the same. I'm telling you, I totally agree with you. And I was just talking about this with my sister. I'm like, if women need the way you can accept your marriage or your relationship with a man better is to remind yourself constantly that they're not women. They do not think like we do. They do not think about the same things over and over and over again. They're not constantly thinking, how can I make this relationship better? How can I communicate better? They're not thinking that. They're just thinking, I'm mad and now I'm not mad anymore, so let's just move on. And you're like, well, what? You know, like, it just. It just. Yeah. So just know that. So if you want to be with the opposite sex, just know that they are the opposite sex. And you will never truly be on the same page because you have two different brains.

[B]

Yeah. Literally.

[A]

That are based in the birth gender. It's a different brain. And it's like, yeah, that's so interesting. Okay, so also, there's a new girl, Amanda Francis, and Bravo and cocktails already found her mugshot.

[B]

Well, she looks like the most juicy from the trailer. I'm excited for her.

[A]

She is a life coach about finances. Yes.

[B]

Perfect. Don't you feel like every housewife show now is they're all casting, like, some weird grifting, like, pathological. It's like Stacey on Potomac and then Katie on OC it's like some weirdo that can't tell the truth about anything. And I guess she's the one for Beverly Hills.

[A]

And you know that's where the show is now. And it still makes it interesting and fun, like, whatever. And who knows what this is? We don't know if this is Bronwyn's, you know, weird fraud thing where she worked at a bank.

[B]

Oh, my God, that thing, too. That's juicy.

[A]

Yeah. We don't know what this crime is. It could be something small. Terry was on a podcast, and he said he does not want to be a house husband. It's very difficult.

[B]

And you're like, he's the thirstiest house husband that's ever existed on the show. I mean, I think he was the first one to get his own spin off. He has a podcast.

[A]

I think he loves it, and I.

[B]

Think he loves it more than Heather.

[A]

I remember when Tamara was getting married, and she told me that Heather was gonna sing at the wedding, and I believe she did.

[B]

I think she did the wedding.

[A]

I think she did. Or she was planning on it. And so in figuring out who they were going to have marry them, she was like, what if. Oh, how about Terry just gets, you know, ordained and does it? And according to Tara, my memory is that Heather's like, I can't believe you asked Terry. No, this is my day. I'm singing. So I know there was, like, a little bit of, like. I think. I think they're a great couple. I think it's fun that they're doing a podcast together. I think that's probably the right thing. I guess she dropped her other one.

[B]

Oh, she's. She's had a lot of podcast. I feel like she's rebranding it constantly. Remember she had that weird thing that.

[A]

Was like Mr. And Mrs. Piggy or something.

[B]

Guinea pig. Oh, yeah, she had that. She had, like, the Heather Dubrows World, and then she had the Mr. And Mrs. Whatever. And then she had some guinea pig thing.

[A]

And then she had sec. Oh, I have my own network. Yes.

[B]

And it was like Fireside Chat.

[A]

Yeah, she had, like. Yeah, she had this network where it's like, she had, like, her spray tan girl had a podcast, and then her eyelash girl had a pie.

[B]

Like, but it was all on an app, and you had to sign in on the app. And then. And it was really expensive. Like, it was like 150 or something. Like, it was, like, a lot. And then it was just to watch her do a live stream with some champagne and, like, you know, kitchen.

[A]

And that's why she bought the house. Bought the condo was like, to do that. Yeah. Not every. Not every business works, and that was whatever.

[B]

And I think her first podcast was actually doing okay because she was one of the first people from House.

[A]

Yeah, she joined right after me. Like, I started mine, and then, like, within months, she was at the.

[B]

It was like her and Brandi Glanville, I think, were, like, the very two.

[A]

And Brandy was even before mine.

[B]

Brandi might be literally the first housewife with the podcast ever.

[A]

She was.

[B]

Yeah. And shout out Brandi Glanville. And Heather was early on, and I think it's like, well, why not stick with that? But now she's had five. She got rid of the original one that was working, has had five new shows that have all flopped. It's like, you should have just kept the original one going.

[A]

Well, whatever. I still would like to see her pop over to Beverly Hills. I, like, I still think that would be fun. Yeah, I just think it would be fun because we know her, but then she'd be working with these other women, and it would be a fresh take.

[B]

We could have both. We could have her on both. I think we should be doing more crossovers in general.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I know that Cynthia Bailey spends half her time in la. I want to see more of her on Beverly Hills. Hills. I really want her on Beverly Hills. Yeah, they're all moving around the place. I know all the Roni cast live in Miami now. So put. Put one of them on. I mean, I was watching.

[A]

They want to bring OGs. Do something. Snowbirds or whatever.

[B]

Yeah, that got canceled. And then I think they were working on something else.

[A]

You mean that Snowbird? Yeah, Pilot didn't work. But that weren't. But they weren't in that. That was other people.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That were, you know, Snowbirds in Florida. But, like. No, we'd love to see them all back. Okay, so now let's get into what is going on. So in the last episode, I just want to talk about this muffled voice. So at the end of the episode of OC they close it all up. They do the sad music, they write the thing of what everybody's doing, and then they're like, two months later, two hours later, two months later, they're. Gina is there with. Who is it? Gina and Jen. And she goes, I got this DM from this person saying that they've been talking to Tamara, and then they have him talk, and they muffle the voice. Like, you were. Like.

[B]

It was a scream. Like the Scream movie. Like, what's your favorite scary movie.

[A]

Yeah. And so people are like, oh, my God, is it. You know, who could it be? Who could. And basically the person said, I have been talking to Tamara all season, and I know everything that happened in the season. And he's able to say every scene with dates and everything, as if she finished doing the scene, picked up the phone, and called whoever this was and said it. Now, some people will be like, what's the big deal? Well, the big deal is only a big deal if Bravo really cares about enforcing any kind of contract, which is you're not supposed to share what's going on in the show. Like, the same thing when I had a friend go on the Golden Bachelor. They cannot tell what happened if they made it to the end, if they got cut, whatever, and. Or the lawyers say, we're gonna sue you, and da, da. And, like, scare them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But to a vet like Tamara, she's.

[B]

Like, there was no bombshell. You know, it's so funny. Zach Peter texted me. He's like, was that you on the call? And I'm like, no. I was the one that told Tamara, though, about Katie's lunch with Kiki. That was me. And then. Then whatever. Dave Quinn was involved too. So that was me, but it was not me on that phone call.

[A]

So now Kiki's saying that. And this is what I said months ago. I said, if there. If Kiki. Because Kiki, originally, she said, I was in Orange county with a friend, and we met with Katie.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So as I was like, who is the friend? The friend is the one that can verify what was said in the conversation. Did Katie say that? Gretchen?

[B]

Katie. I can't say who the friend is, but Katie definitely said it.

[A]

But there was another person.

[B]

Yes, there was another. Came in with hearing. Yeah, Lying. Stone cold lying about it. Now, Gretchen may have said it. I. You know, Gretchen could have said that. I. Who knows? She probably did. But Katie keeps going. I never repeated it to Kiki. It's like, then how the hell does Kiki know? Like, you know Kiki. I talked to her after that. And yes, like, Kiki's absolutely telling the truth. And, you know, I know Kiki got a lot of hate online from the fans because they were like, team Katy. But, you know, Kiki was great to just, like, she came on the show, she goes, this is what happened. She filmed herself. And then I didn't like that bombshell thing at the end because it's like, that's just an anonymous person. Like, we need to, like, vet you. Like, you can't come on with a scream voice scrambler and accuse Tamara of whatever. Like, we should know who you are.

[A]

We don't know. I think that that whole thing could be that they wanted. I think the producers wanted to put it out there to scold Tamara, and I think that they wanted to protect the person because the person asked to be protected.

[B]

I don't think they should have been included. If they said I. If they came and they said, I will film, but I'm not gonna have anyone know who I am. I don't think they should be allowed because we need to fact check that person. And also, there was no bombshell. Well, but also, like, we didn't reveal anything.

[A]

This is another thing where then, like, just, like, the audience gets tired with Blake Lively and they get tired with the Tom Girardi thing. Like, this is. They're getting tired with this. They're just like, okay, you know, and who is it? And what did they do? And. And then, of course, all the stuff with the. But with all the stuff with, you know, the problematic.

[B]

Oh, the Gretchen's post, everybody knew about that.

[A]

And that all came from Tamara, you know, letting people know that this is coming. And then, you know, one person tells one person.

[B]

Those posts were also out online for years. So where the. Tamra told people that that was coming or not, those posts were already on, like, Reddit threads. And there's a Instagram. No, sorry. A Twitter thread from 2023 with all of those posts in it that Gretchen was liking. So, you know what? The fans are like. They. Especially during, you know, like, during, like, 2020, 21, 22, the fans were very into digging into, like, who did you vote for? Like, you know, trying to cancel people. So I think they dug up a lot of it back then.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So, yeah, I believe that Gretchen definitely.

[A]

Well, they said. She said she paid for a cyber person. And.

[B]

Well, I want to see what the cyber person's saying, because they're kind of vague. They're like, well, it's linked to Tamra. It's like. But what does that mean? Does that mean that Tamara is just following some of these accounts? Like, what do you mean linked to Tamra? Because that could be.

[A]

I mean, I just think the whole thing sucks because it's like, it reminds me of the Diane Jenkins.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And she kind of was run out of town for something that she absolutely did not do. First there was the blind item Crazy Days and Crazy Night sky that said that she was like, oh, a madam. Like, a madam trafficker, whatever that alleged story was about.

[B]

And she sued over that, and that wasn't true.

[A]

And then that, you know, Garcelle's son got some mean tweets and made it sound like they were like a Diane Jenkins fan. Which I'm like, I've said that before. Like, people can present themselves like. Like the opposite to make that opposite side look horrible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, oh, my God, all those fans from that side or all these people on this right or left are insane, but they're just creating, like, an insane person so that you associate that person and their fans are being, like, unhinged. And she said, I spent all this money and da, da, da, da. With the IP address and everything. And I just remembered I had someone call me, an anonymous person about that, about that, who said that the IP address was coming from some area off of Mulholland close to where Lisa Rinna lives.

[B]

There's no way Lisa Rinna did not do that.

[A]

So I remember I said, this is exact. I go, listen. Like, this is where people lose the plot. Because it's like, this is why OJ Got off. They spent eight days explaining DNA and people lost their. And then the visual of the glove will fit. People just want the visual. It's like, this is just too hard to say, and it's not fun to watch, and it's too hard to pin on someone. All you can really do is just say everything in my life, as Gretchen has not shown in real life, me walking on this earth, I have never been disrespectful or unsupportive of somebody in the community.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, like, I don't know what else to tell you. Like, I don't know if this was, you know, or like, what I said yesterday over the weekend was Adrienne Maloof had a eight person.

[B]

Like an eight that was D. From.

[A]

No, this is Adrian Maloof had, like, a slideshow. Now, normally when there's a slideshow, there's that little square in the corner. There is no square. But this was the COVID photo. Okay. So a lot of people liked it, including Cynthia Bailey. Cause it's Adrienne Malou from Real House Beverly Hills in a witch outfit. The third photo is her with Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is a polarizing political figure. Still, Cynthia Bailey liked it. Then somebody Gretchen had liked it, but Gretchen and I think Cynthia never slid over.

[B]

Yeah. No.

[A]

So now it shows that she liked it. And then this person then makes a whole big thing to say, oh, this is how you politically feel. This is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's just like, oh, my God, fuck Lightgate. Like, everyone, if this is a lesson to anyone, it should be Instagram meta. Is there a Way to disable liking anything.

[B]

Yeah, Like, I just don't want to.

[A]

Like anything anymore because God forbid. And then when someone goes, you liked it? Then you could say, well, actually I disabled my like button in 2025, so this from March 26th must have been altered by AI and I will not go to jail for this. Like, this is just.

[B]

Yeah, they probably on the show. I think we need to not be canceling any of the Housewives for their political opinions and going through their likes and stuff. And also, it's probably time to wrap it up on the blogger storylines.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The thing is, though, that the reality of what these women are living is that there are television stars on a show that has a very engaged fan base and blog pages and fan pages and meme pages and everything. And naturally they're going to be having interactions with bloggers. And in some cases, like, you know, Teresa Giudice and Jennifer Ayton, they were like planting stories with Melissa's old nose. So then they could bring it up on camera and stuff.

[A]

Because then they can say it was. Did you see? It's all over the press and the women. Look what somebody sent me. So as long as somebody writes it and they're filming tomorrow, then they can say, yeah, this was on Bravo and Cookies or whatever. And then they can talk about it.

[B]

And the women are going to be doing that. So it's. I also kind of like, I don't know how you get around it, because that's a reality of what these women are living. So unless it is the reality come in and they just go, I think.

[A]

Yeah, I think it is the reality.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because a big part of our lives, famous or not, is what someone posted on social media. It is a hard position to be in.

[B]

You know, we've discussed this before. But what they need to do is back in Australia, on all the big reality shows, you hand over your social media accounts, Instagram, to the network. The network manages your page. If you want to post something, you go, I want to post this cute reel of me cooking or whatever. You send it to the social media person at the network, they post it for you. You don't have access to your DMs, your comments are disabled to stop the from trolling. Because in Australia, on a lot of the shows, the trolling is like, really bad. I think Australia's a little behind. I think they still think all these shows are like, real and not edited and stuff. So I want to kill you on the person on Married at First Sight, you know?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Why Are you rude to them at the altar? You should die.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So they have to like protect, disable the comments and stuff and like maybe Bravo should start doing that. Like just managing everyone's social media account. Yeah, that might be the way around it also.

[A]

So selling Sunsets on and I guess Emma, one of the girls has a boyfriend who referred to G Flip as Chrishell's wife. And G Flip is goes by they them. So therefore I guess the proper thing would have been your partner.

[B]

I guess.

[A]

I mean but then Chrishell fought back and she dug up old posts of this guy. Not old either. Old posts or old likes. And so I guess this guy has quote unquote some problematic likes or posts in the past.

[B]

Yeah, likes and people liking things on social media needs to not be a storyline. And I did see this clip of her trying to explain like he didn't realize that G Flip was non bi. I mean G Flip, you know, presents quite. You know, she has long. They have long blonde hair and you know, I can understand why you would.

[A]

Say you're my wife as a guy. And then she, she went as like a. Like a dressed up like girly girl.

[B]

You know, people are not liking Chrishell anymore and I feel like this season people have turned on her finally. And I'm just like, well, Christine Quinn tried to tell you all this like six seasons ago. Yeah, she was ran off. I mean, I think we need Christine Quinn back. Oh, you know, I heard I had.

[A]

Christine Quinn on my show years ago. I'd love to have her back on.

[B]

I'll get it.

[A]

Because she's really been through a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With her horrible ex husband. But.

[B]

But they're casting the new season now, I heard and of selling Sunset. Yeah. Cause they're doing the next one. But they want celebrity realtors because I had someone that I recommended that was really good. But she's not a celebrity. And I'm like, oh, she'll be great on the show. But they want. Because they just got Sofia Vergara's sister was one of them. And then the Nick Cannon's baby mama. So.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You basically have to be a celebrity, a minor celebrity to get cast on the next selling Sunset. So that's what they're doing. And then we have the new selling ocs coming back and they fired half of them. And I can't wait for that one. I like the oc. That's my selling the OC with Alex Hall. It's my favorite.

[A]

I mean, yeah, it's fun to just because the real estate porn Is so good. It's so much there in OC and then, like, the outfits are just more and more real again. A lot of leather gloves in 100 degree weather and, you know, tiny, tiny purses. Yeah. Okay, so on real houses of Salt Lake City, they're on the below deck.

[B]

What is Stu? Chef Stu likes every single post that you make.

[A]

Yeah, I'm gonna get him. And so they. They. So Lisa Barlow. So Angie is now telling all of Lisa Barlow's secrets. And Angie says, well, Lisa said that she saw Todd making out with another woman and farting the whole time. And Bronwyn, who's married to Todd, is like, are you saying. What are you saying? That is terrible. You are dead to me. And Lisa Barley's like, all I'm saying, I'm just repeating something that someone said to me is that he was kissing a friend of mine. He's in New York all the time. And while he was making out with her, he was farting the whole time. And is a result of gout. Farting. Because we also know that he had gout.

[B]

Yes, Gout Dick. According to at least some.

[A]

And I mean, all I have to say is if you're Bronwyn and you have to go home to Todd after they've talked about his gout and is farting, like, yeah, this marriage is hanging by a string.

[B]

And I wonder.

[A]

No way. Like this. It was probably not great to start, but then your husband's. Everything about your husband is being picked apart by every woman with a keyboard in front of them. It is like, oh, and now you've.

[B]

Been outed as potentially doing some kind of weird fraud, identity theft thing, which he's not going to love that.

[A]

And allegedly, like, he probably paid to have it sealed or whatever is what people are also saying. It sounds like she worked at a bank.

[B]

Or imagine if he. Imagine if he didn't know and he found out with the rest of the world on the blogs, he's like, wait, this is who I'm married to? Like, maybe. There's also a lot of fart talk on Salt Lake City. Remember when the housewives. Oh, yeah, Mary.

[A]

Mary said you got. Mary got mad because Angie talked about her fart. So now we're going to go from liking comments to farting. Who has a gas problem? Is that a result of Ozempic just farting up a storm? I don't know.

[B]

Well, remember when Housewives of Dallas started and they kept talking about poop and people didn't like that because they went to the charity function And Leanne Locken, I think she had a hat with plastic poop on it.

[A]

No, no, Brandi brought the poo.

[B]

Poo did, yeah. And then Leanne was offended. Cause it was a classy charity function. She wore a poo pat.

[A]

And then Bronwyn's just like, you know, well, Todd, I know that you're gonna be really upset right now because of this incident that happened that was obviously cleared up. And I'm sorry that it's come out about me. Cause I know that it affects you and your reputation and your businesses. And I'm just, I'm really sorry that surrounding myself by this group of women is causing. He's like, I just don't know why you'd go eats the cherry. Like, oh my God.

[B]

Bronwyn is now having like the biggest fall from grace because she was so popular on her first season. Now this season, I feel like people kind of are starting to hate her. All of her dirty laundry is coming out. It's like, you maybe should have quit after season.

[A]

I think people, I still, I disagree. I think they like her because I feel bad for her. Because they're like, she's has, you know, the husband hates or the mom hates her. The daughter, you know, has to like there's.

[B]

But I saw people posting going, well, maybe she's the problem if everyone hates us so much.

[A]

Right? Maybe he is a great husband. She lets everybody live at the house and dog shit everywhere. And she spends, you know, 25,000 a week on clothes. Like, maybe she should be grateful for him. The theme of like, what was this, like a murder theme or something?

[B]

Yeah, I think some murder mystery dinner or whatever. At least they're not in G strings and butt plugs.

[A]

No, I mean, it does help just like Vanderpump when they just have like theme parties a lot because it does kind of add to the watching of the scenes.

[B]

We just need non sexual themes. I think we just want more like silly themes. Yeah, we don't want you all in fishnets.

[A]

So getting out of Housewives, Jennifer Aniston said, happy birthday to my love. Oh, she went public and she went public with this guy. And he is a life coach and a hypnotist. She knows where hypnotizing is sort of life coaching because it's like, imagine seeing your goals or whatever. And so then some people are like, I wonder if he hypnotized her into loving him. And I'm like, here's the thing. When you get to a certain age, there just aren't that many like, attractive, hot. He is hot, likeable, age appropriate. Guys that are single there aren't. Yeah. And you have to just, you know, hope that you get one that's, you know. But I always just think it's so funny when someone like Jennifer Aniston is like, you know, divorced twice, had other boyfriends and, you know, and now has him. And then all the friends have to act like we love him. Like, you know, because it's just like, well, he's our good friend's guy, but who knows how long he's gonna, like, really be around.

[B]

And you know what our problem is? I think, I think she's too into looks because she does date very good looking.

[A]

Oh my God, you're right.

[B]

She dates very good looking men and. Or like very. Either very famous or very good looking. And I think she just needs to get like a normal guy because this is.

[A]

He's good looking, but he's not too good looking. He's the right amount of good looking.

[B]

This photo is pretty hot. Maybe it's just the photo. Yeah, I mean, that's.

[A]

We are good. We are great. He is. You know what he does to me, Jacques? He takes this little necklace and he goes like this.

[B]

And I am.

[A]

All of a sudden, I am not thinking about the morning show or about my dogs or anything. And I am just at peace because you know what he said to me? He said, today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow. And I'm like, no true words have been spoken. People need to know who you are. Happy birthday.

[B]

Well, she needs.

[A]

That was really one of his things. This was one of the things I came across.

[B]

He actually did that.

[A]

It is today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow. I think, Jennifer, $3,000 a month you could do. Could be part of his life coaching. No, I don't know what he charges.

[B]

But Jennifer Aniston needs to sit down for a coffee with Denise Richards and find out what it's like to date a very hot hung l. A. Life coach. And yes, so true.

[A]

And where it could possibly go and.

[B]

Maybe run a mile.

[A]

It's so. The whole life coaching thing is so interesting because anybody like, I mean, oh my God, I was. Remember the guy that, that Teresa's husband went to the Laguna man weekend retreat. So he still is doing that.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

It's called the warrior thing. And there's like five guys speaking at some arena like in Miami to like empower men. And I'm all. It's always just like some guy being like, you get up, you work out. I built all These businesses and da da, da. And I'm like, okay, well if you've built all these business, like why, why do you need to also coach people at a coaching thing?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like all so many coaches that don't really have any other business besides the podcasting coaching thing.

[B]

Yes. And then they pretend that they have all these other businesses that they built, which is how they sell the podcast to people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I think Jennifer Aniston, if you're gonna date a life coach, I think it needs to be on the level of like Jay Shetty or I mean, I know he was like controversial something, but.

[A]

I see he just lied about his origin story, but who cares? Yeah, you should definitely follow people that lie about their origin story. It shouldn't matter if they can say things like today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow. You should absolutely, like let them, let them.

[B]

Or the Huberman guy, whatever he is, he's not, I mean, at least date like the top person, you know, like that's number one on the charts. Like we don't know who this is.

[A]

But I don't think they're bad people. Like, listen, if listening to Mel Robbins or whatever has really brought you joy, then good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But just, you know, so long it doesn't. So long as it doesn't become like cultich and you're like going in debt to do her. But part of the Jay Shetty was he did have classes and things that then people then were selling to other people and things and it was becoming quite an expense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Listening to a free podcast. Do it all you want. That's not harming anybody. Buying a book for $20. Fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But when it's like a thing, then I'm kind of, then I sort of have issues with it.

[B]

But it's also like do the advice. Like I know that you used to do with Tony Robbins. Right?

[A]

Yeah, I, I would. I loved those commercials and I didn't, I listened to some of the tapes and it did inspire me because one of the things was like, you know, cause I was trying to bring into acting and stuff. And he just said do one thing every day towards your goal. So it's like, even though I didn't want to, I would do like one type of cold call to like try to get a stand up spot or try to. And then, then I would do two and then I'd do three. And it was just a simple thing. Yeah, but he's honest in that he said I took a little from everything.

[B]

But it's also like if you're Gonna follow one of these people. You've got to kind of, like, take the advice and implement it into your life for real and try to improve your life. Because how many of us know that person that's obsessed with self help books and self help podcasts? The artist and their. Their life remains a mess for, like, a decade straight because, like, they're not actually, like, doing anything in them. They just, like, get off.

[A]

Yeah, well, they start off.

[B]

They start, well, I'm starting a journal, and they start journaling for three days, and then they find a new thing to do. Now I'm doing affirmations in the mirror. It's like, you just stick with a thing and then, yeah, you know, make it work.

[A]

Charlie Sheen clarified his sexual experience with men. He's like, a lot of people think, you know, oh, I had sex with men, and they immediately think butt stuff. But. And the comments were so funny. They're like, everything I've learned about Charlie Sheen in the last week or month has been against my will. Like, now you're gonna clarify that that's not the kind of sex you had.

[B]

Like, just so he was getting head from men or giving it. Well, I actually wouldn't. I. If you're gonna be. Don't be so vague. I want to know actually, specifically. Don't be like, well, it's not. But sex. But it's other stuff. Okay. Were you giving oral? Were you receiving oral? I actually would like to know exactly. Or just don't mention it. You know, don't bring it up there.

[A]

Well, you know, he's. But maybe next week's podcast, he'll say maybe. Yeah, I mean, certainly if all of a sudden. If I was the podcast this week that's interviewing him for, hell, I'd ask. I'd be like. So just to be clear.

[B]

Like, just to be clear.

[A]

Mutual.

[B]

Handy.

[A]

What are we talking? Like, I just want to know. And like, if you're gonna say it, then say it all. Maybe he's waiting to do a whole nother book, a whole nother doc.

[B]

Why does he care that people think that it was butt stuff either?

[A]

I know why.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Because Corey Feldman did that doc where he said that. That something happened with him and Corey Haim. That's all I'm gonna say about it. And so by him now clarifying, because once he said that people are like, now maybe that makes a tad more sense.

[B]

So now he's like.

[A]

And so now he wants to be like, no, no, no. I was, you know, doing crack, and this person was just, you Know it. Okay, Lennon, tell us everything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and then America Diplo said that he also dated just Justin Trudeau. We don't know if he's joking or what.

[B]

I think he was joking. But I am very. I'm very intrigued by the Katy Perry Justin Trudeau romance. I can't tell if it's like, you know, when I think about it from a publicity perspective, I don't know if it's a flex to date him or not. It's like, okay, like, you're dating someone that was, like, the Prime Minister of Canada. That's, like, kind of impressive. But I feel like a lot of people, like, hated him, too, and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so I'm like, I don't know.

[A]

And he was like, a Nepo baby.

[B]

Yeah, he was a Nepo baby. And he kind of looks like a Cabbage Patch doll. And I think that he, like, didn't do that great of a job. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, allegedly, if you're in Canada now. He was amazing.

[A]

And I also just think Katy Perry is just turned into, like, a weird dork.

[B]

Oh, yeah, well, she always was a dork, but I think she just covered it up, and now we know that she really is one. Like. Well, you know what I think she needs to do? Well, she's coming back with a new song already, which is really quick, because the last album, you know, the woman. What was the woman empowerment, Woman's World or whatever that you hated. That whole album sounded like it was made by AI. Like, that was a really bad album, and people really hated on her. And then, remember, she went to the. On tour, and then everyone was making fun of her dancing on tour and stuff. Like, I actually felt. Felt really bad for her. It was like, the album was bad and the tour was cheesy, but people were, like, horrible. It was too much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it was just, like, such a pile on. And I kind of like that she's not going into hiding. She's just like, you know what? Oh, yeah. And she split with Orlando. Her whole life fell apart, but she's bouncing back. She's like, all right, I've got a new man. I'm putting out new music.

[A]

He went. He went as a shark. So people thought that was an ode to her for Halloween.

[B]

Yeah. Probably was kidding.

[A]

And then John Mayer and this girl, Kat Stickler, who's like, a huge influencer, they went out.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Do you think what. I mean, did you see what Andy Cohen said about John Mayer, how every time we go out to Eat. We sit on the same booth and I just put my head on his shoulder and we have this special thing. And what do you think's going on there?

[B]

I don't think. I just think they have a close bromance. I don't think there's anything sexual. I just think.

[A]

I think if there was something sexual, he wouldn't. And he wouldn't talk like that.

[B]

Yeah. And, you know, they're also. They're kind of similar because, you know, they're both kind of like these narcissistic. Well, you know, he's a womanizer. And Andy Cohen's. What is it when you screwing a bunch of guys on Grindr or whatever? Like, they're both kind of like Peter Pan.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Type guys that just like to play the field and be famous and stuff. So I'm not surprised that they. They're best friends.

[A]

Yeah. I think that's just. Yeah. Real love. And also, I don't think he cares. And, you know, he'll probably do an interview and say it wasn't butt stuff. Never the butt stuff.

[B]

As much as Andy would have loved.

[A]

Okay, well, we gotta wrap it up, so.

[B]

That's a long one.

[A]

I know. So tell everybody where they can follow you for your delightful insights on things.

[B]

Oh, yes, Just follow me on Instagram, N popularjp. You know, I post on my stories a lot. A lot of hot takes. And check me out on the Daily Mail, whatever scoops I've got going on. Love it.

[A]

Love you.

[B]

Oh, my God. I am. I don't have tickets for Bravo Con, but I'm crashing into friends and I'm going to, like, crash the parties.

[A]

So you want to go to Mike show?

[B]

Yes, I do. And Brandy and Julie are going to be there, right?

[A]

Oh, yeah, they're going to be there on stage, some surprise guests. That's all@heather McDonald.com net.

[B]

Yes. Can I just add, I went to one of your shows before and it was so good. Oh, yes, it was really good. Everyone was really funny. It was amazing. I had such a good time and I didn't know if I would. I think I've told you this story before, but I remember when me and my friend Dan were driving up, he was driving me there, and I'm like, look, I'm friends with Heather. I'm friends with Brandy and Julie. So, like, if it's bad, we have to pretend that it's good. And it was. But it was legitimately really good. We're like, damn, they killed it. So, you know, I didn't have to fake it.

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