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Guy Branham
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Heather McDonald
How old were you when you realized you were the son of a president?
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Guy Branham
I don't think anyone's ever asked me that before.
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Heather McDonald
FX's love story, John F. Kennedy Jr. And Carolyn Bissette.
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Guy Branham
I didn't think I could love someone.
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Heather McDonald
Like this until you.
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Guy Branham
From executive producer Ryan Murphy. It's not a question of if I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
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Heather McDonald
It's if I'm cut out to be Mrs. JFK Jr. FX's love story, John F. Kennedy Jr. And Carolyn Bissette premieres tonight on FX. Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus for bundle subscribers.
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Guy Branham
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Heather McDonald
Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales For real life, Mr. Sacred, serial data and Serial Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in. Listen up. Woo woo. Hanna McDonald, Juicy School. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have one of our favorites. I've known him forever. The hilarious writer, actor, model, commentator, just all over. Great standup comic, one man show touring the world. Guy Branham. Back to Juicy Scoop.
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Guy Branham
I've been focusing on my modeling work recently.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah, you're looking good.
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Guy Branham
I was in Milan for Fashion Week and then had to leave before the Olympics.
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Heather McDonald
Oh, well. And there's so many much going on with the Olympics that you just. Let's get right into it. This guy, thank gosh, he's American. So he won the gold. Right? He's broken all. What is his name?
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Guy Branham
Ilya.
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Heather McDonald
I just have this photo of him because I saw him everywhere. But he is male figure skater, single, and he won the gold for that. And he did quad.
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Guy Branham
Well, he won the gold.
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Heather McDonald
He had four twirls.
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Guy Branham
He won the gold for the team, and then he's going back to see if he'll win the individual medal. But it's just so exciting that, like, just months after getting a famous blonde Ilya in heated rivalry, we have another Ilya who is, you know, on the ground in Milan winning gold medals and.
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Heather McDonald
Breaking a record in that he did seven quads. Meaning he got up there, went once around two, around three, around four round, then came down.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
And then did it six other times or something.
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Guy Branham
I just. As a child of the 80s, it's really important for us to, like, win the medal count at the Olympics. Olympics. And lets me know that America's doing okay.
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Heather McDonald
How do you feel about the gold medals breaking? They're like, crap. Have you heard about this? Oh, yeah, no. People are filming that it's broken in half, and then so they, like, have to fix it. And then there was another one where they're like, all right, well, since yours broke, here's another. Your name isn't on it, so you'll just have to go. I'm like, so this person has to get home and go to, like, some trophy shop and pay whatever, how much ever it's gonna be.
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Guy Branham
And.
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Heather McDonald
And then what if they get the name wrong? And now you have a gold medal with the Raw.
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Guy Branham
I mean, like, also, you worked your whole life to get this thing, and then your life will never be as good again. Like, this is supposed to be the best thing, but it does make me worry about the. The bigger problem of, like, no one makes money from the Olympics anymore, and the Olympics are bad for your town. And I worry about our poor Los Angeles in two years, you know, Geez.
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Heather McDonald
Right? Well, do you think you'll want to go to things? I mean, when we have the Olympics here?
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Guy Branham
My friend Jason was like, you're going to want to see who, like, the opening ceremonies are going to be good. And, you know, those will be good bookings, you know, like, it's Los Angeles. Everyone lives here. You're going to get very famous people. But part of me is like, should we all just be Making a bunch of money off of Airbnb.
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Heather McDonald
Well, would you like to talk to a native Angelena like me who lived here during 84?
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Guy Branham
Okay, yes, yes.
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Heather McDonald
There wasn't even a way, you know, if people were renting their house. I guess they were putting it in ads or something. Cause we didn't have Airbnb. But so many people thought the traffic would be so awful and everything. They left and went on their European vacations in Hawaii and everything. And people did allow their houses to be rented out and the traffic was deader than any time. It was great. We were able to go to. We went to some like running and stuff, you know. You know, we couldn't get the good one, like gymnastics.
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Guy Branham
Right.
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Heather McDonald
But now I'm like, oh, it's kind of a lot of pressure because when it happens, you now I'm like, you know, an older established person. Like, I could spend a lot of money.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
And get cool tickets and have that experience. Like I could afford to do it, but like, do I want to?
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Guy Branham
But the question is, what connections do you have? You know, the question is always what I know.
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Heather McDonald
That's the thing. Like will the LA connection, will, will they make it that, you know. No, we gotta make it fair and you can't buy the ticket. I don't know how they're gonna do it, how they're gonna get around the LA red tape where the agency has, you know, your agent has like 30 tickets and who gets those and who hands this? Unlike. Can a regular person just have a good experience going to the Olympics in la?
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Guy Branham
But also, I hadn't thought about it until this moment, but like the gay bars are gonna be off the hook for that week. Like it's just gonna be full of Romanian gymnasts.
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Heather McDonald
Do you think they'll still. Do you think SUR will finally be full? Can they hang on two more years?
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Guy Branham
I think so. It's an amazing business venture. Honestly. Every time I've ever been to sir, they were doing a nice business.
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Heather McDonald
And I wonder like, what reality shows will that shoot in LA will be like filming during the Olympics. That could be a good.
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Guy Branham
That would be amazing.
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Heather McDonald
That would be good. And then six months later to have.
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Guy Branham
Like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills having like a real load bearing scene at Olympic tennis would be amazing.
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Heather McDonald
Or having one of the. Cause there's gonna be like next gen la, which is like the younger kids. Like I think Heather Dubrow's son will be in it and stuff. And so if they're filming that and. Or sir or Vanderpump or whatever. And then, like, someone, like, is like, I just fucked, like, I was gonna say a bobsledder, but they wouldn't be here for the LA Olympics. Okay. I just, like, I just fucked, you know, a male gymnast.
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Guy Branham
No. It's wonderful. Like, when that guy from Love island came and was having sex with. Was it Lisa, Rinna's daughter?
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Heather McDonald
Oh, that's right. What was that?
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Guy Branham
Yes, there was, like, one of the guys from Love island came and was like, y'. All. Y'. All. Yeah. Was having sex with one of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills daughter. And like, that's a fun crossover. And like, Bravo is part of the com or the universal family. Like, you know.
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Heather McDonald
So ice skating is every girls and gays favorite sport.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
I always felt like the bob, the guinea and the little thing.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
I always was like, if I could just be like, number two or three, then I think it's pretty easy.
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Guy Branham
In the bobsled. Yes.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah, in the bobsled. Cause I'm not pushing it and jumping in last.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
I'm just in it.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
And then just, like, say a prayer. I think I could do that. And that's it. I couldn't do any other sports. And so with ice skating, there's couple skating, which I love.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
But then there's like, the other thing, which is, like, just like, more casual ice skates.
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Guy Branham
Ice dancing.
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Heather McDonald
I don't like it as much as traditional couple dance. Couple ice skating. What do you think?
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Guy Branham
Cause they can't do the jumps. I really love ice dancing. And I think that this year was really exciting because, you know, back in, like, the 1980s and stuff, they were doing very ballroom style, bolero, that kind of thing. And like, all of the ice dancers are like a married couple doing the gayest possible, like, dance. Like, one of them does vogue. I heard 100% pure love. Like, these are. It sounds like pride and like, the. But I also feel like something is lost because, like, back in the day, you had to look at it and be like, oh, this is super gay. But they don't realize it. And now you're watching it and you're like, this is super gay. And they know it. And they're probably very devout Mormons.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah. A lot of them are married couples. That's so funny.
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Guy Branham
Well, it was like somebody posted to her Instagram, like, when you're 11 years old and this boy asks you to be his dance partner, say yes. And it's like, you guys have been working together professionally since you were, like, 11 or whatever. And you also fell in love. That feels weird.
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Heather McDonald
I think there's nothing like kind of crazier than when you do see the ballroom dancers and like the boy is like shorter than the girl, but they're like eight.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
And he's just so intentionally. There's just something. You're like, what am I watching?
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Guy Branham
It teaches a weird kind of confidence that I don't understand.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah. And then how does that even begin? Like, okay, you're gonna be doing. You're gonna get into dance as a boy, but you're gonna be dancing like you're a 50 year old, you know, Cuban.
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Guy Branham
A mom just has to decide. A mom just has to like put that upon. But like, I mean, your boys pretty much ended up going into just like the things that Peter did, right? Like golf. Yeah, yeah.
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Heather McDonald
So, yeah. I don't know. But anyway, that was cool. And then also this guy that just came out today, he won a medal, I think for skiing. He's Norwegian. And then after they're like, how you feeling? And he's like, it's great. I'm so happy. It's been an incredible time. And three months ago I met the greatest girl in. In the world. And then I cheated on her. And he admitted there, like in the interviews, it's all over that he. And then one of the comments is like, I don't understand this Gen Z. Like, why are you telling this on the biggest moment of your life?
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Guy Branham
Like something that's an amazing rom com moment that was like, I have one chance to win my girl back and you don't win her back. If you get the bronze, like, if I win the gold and admit I'm a fuck up. And admit I'm a fuck up, then she might come back.
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Heather McDonald
Amazing. Okay, so the. The missing Nancy Guthrie story. As of we're recording this Tuesday, the. What day are we? The 10th? 11th? Tuesday the. No. Is that the 10th? Yeah, Tuesday the 10th. And they did release a photo which is a masked man that they did, I guess was able to catch something on the ring camera. I've heard so many different things that the ring can. That the ring cameras were shut down or they used some jammer. They were able to retrieve this photo. They put it everywhere. And it just looks to be a man. It looks like there's the space between the mask and the eyes. Looks to be white. So he appears to be white. And I don't know. We don't know.
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Guy Branham
It's just very terrifying. Like it's Savannah Guthrie. Like, it's not the most famous or wealthy person in the world. Like, why are you just like, oh, I know where a medium famous person's mom is? Like, that is very creepy to me.
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Heather McDonald
I mean, the story is a crazy distraction because there's so many elements to wonder which theory is right.
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Guy Branham
Yeah.
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Heather McDonald
And right now the theories are, one, that it was just a random person that knew that she was a wealthy woman or had a wealthy famous daughter and kidnapped her and is doing the ransom note. And we don't know who this person is. And is that person someone who worked on the house six months ago and been planning this? Is this someone who lives down the street who's like a weirdo? Is it. It's somewhat sophisticated because they bought these. This thing called a jammer, which I now, I guess a lot of criminals are able to do. And it like turns off the surveillance or something. The next is, does it have anything to do with the fact that she is on the Today show that she has interviewed Epstein victims? I made a mistake on my last episode. I said that I heard the son in law worked for this company that scrubs the Internet and also worked for the Clintons. No, it was Savannah's husband that did that. So with the Clintons being involved with the Epstein staff or agreeing to be questioned, does that have anything to do with it? And then the third story is, you know, was it somebody that knew her? Her sister and brother in law live close by. They had a meal with her that night. The brother in law was the last to drop her off. What? Had her walk and saw her walk into the house at like 9:30? Is there something there that we don't know about? You know, and I'm not. I don't want to accuse the brother in law, but the theories going around is if it was somebody like a family member, either them or someone else, could it be that, you know, she was supporting them or they were stealing from her? Or she said, I'm not gonna pay for this anymore. Or she discovered something and then they're like, oh, my God, I ha. I can't let this get out. So those are the three theories. And honestly, I would. I have no idea which one it is.
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Guy Branham
I just think it's so hard that when people are going through something like this, randos like me are speculating.
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Heather McDonald
Yes, I know it's bad, but I mean, you are a famous person. I'm sorry. And it's a crime. We did it. We did it with the Idaho four until we knew who did it. I mean, it just gets you wondering?
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Guy Branham
Well, and also like so much of the time it really is somebody who is connected over somebody who isn't connected. My biggest problem is just that it used to be that to be good at crime you just had to be strong and have no remorse. And now it requires so many tech skills and it's worrying to me.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah, I mean, I know like so much of the tech stuff is like, like in some ways tech made it easier to like cheat on your spouse, Right?
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
You could have an extra phone. You could. But in another way it makes it that you can't because your everything can be tracked.
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Guy Branham
Yeah.
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Heather McDonald
Your home can have, you know, cameras on it. So if you had like a rendezvous with somebody, you know, your spouse could see it. You know, it's just like, it's a weird time. You're right.
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Guy Branham
Well, and there's also the weird way that like there is so much violence in our society that is like random and directionless, that something like this can almost feel like hokey or old school. They're just like, you know, they're kidnapping a rich person to try to like.
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Heather McDonald
They'Re kidnapping the 84 year old mother of like the like the most likable girl on the Today show. Like the whole thing, it literally, it does, it feels like it's out of like a Batman movie. It feels so weird. And I think that's why everyone's just like where what is happening in the world? Like this is such a weird story and such a strange story and it's been over a week now and I just wonder like, will we ever have an answer? And I feel so badly for them.
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Guy Branham
Well, and it also just like I never fully understood what the story with the Lindbergh baby was, but like just the notion of mid level famous people having to be more worried about somebody, you know, it's like maybe we shouldn't snag kids or old people, you know.
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Heather McDonald
And I just don't know that an old person has ever been kidnapped before. That's the weirdest thing. It's like no one's ever thought of it. And now I'm wondering, is this like gonna give someone a new idea of what you could do to somehow like make money? It's just awful. Okay. So anyway, getting back to the super bowl, this story I did not know about, this guy was streaked or whatever, which is where he didn't get fully naked. He just had like a shirt off.
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Guy Branham
Yeah.
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Heather McDonald
And the story behind it is he bet, he put out a bet or created a bet that someone will Streak. And then he had the meta glasses on so you could see his point of view of running around. He had a friend, I guess, do some distractions so he could get on it. So now there's a streak. So now he's due for the. To gain the money. And then he did it a couple years ago in a different streaking outfit. The good news is his body got better. In the last two years, the body got better. And so I'm like, I don't really understand. I know there's so much betting and everything. And now I hear these betting commercials, and they're like, put your prediction in. So they're like, calling it prediction instead of betting. But, I mean, I don't know what the rules are. This isn't. I mean, betting is betting.
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Guy Branham
Like, I am just happy that that man tackled him. Like, we are just going viral has made it so incentivized for people to, like, prank each other or do stupid shit. And you hear about, you know, all of these people who are, like, trying to get a photo and then die or, you know, or, like, surprised that when they break the law to do something zany that they actually have legal consequences. I've always said that pranks are just crimes committed by heterosexual white teenagers.
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Heather McDonald
And remember all the prank shows? Remember the Ashton Kutcher prank shows?
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Guy Branham
I wrote for that one.
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Heather McDonald
What were some. That you did?
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Guy Branham
The thing is, is, like, it was so terrible. They had.
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Heather McDonald
But with celebrity to remind people it was Ponzi. It was hidden camera.
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Guy Branham
It was hidden camera, and it was celebrities. And the season I was on, they had hired writers, but then it hadn't worked. And then they let them all go. And then it was me and, like, three other guys. And I was informed by Ashton Pudger's producing partner that I was the female wr. And I was like, you know that there are women, don't you, who could write for this show. So the ones that I was responsible for was like, Demi Lovato heard a ghost, some girl. Like, it was the golden age of. We did something mean to the car of a girl who was in Twilight. Everyone was from Twilight or High School Musical. And then I think a High School Musical girl, she went to a yogurt shop and the yogurt wouldn't stop coming out.
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Heather McDonald
Oh, so those are pretty innocent.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
But there were a couple really awful ones where I want to say, it was with Taylor. Was it Taylor Swift? And she, like, they're like, oh, whatever. Throw this thing off the balcony or whatever.
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Guy Branham
Blew it up. That was the beginning of the season I worked on and it blew.
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Heather McDonald
And they then they acted like it blew up a boat or something. And then she thought she hurt someone.
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Guy Branham
Yes.
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Heather McDonald
That is like awful.
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Guy Branham
Yes. They were so proud of that. And I was just like, who is this for? What's fun about this?
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Heather McDonald
I remember there was one with Ellen Pompeo and she has, I think she's still with him, but her husband is this good looking black guy. And it was that the waitress was overly flirting with him and to get her reaction. Now that I think is kind of cute. Like, that's not terrible.
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Guy Branham
My favorite thing about our season was every actress in Los Angeles was only going to Cafe Gratitude at that point in time. And Cafe Gratitude was like, you only get two pranks here. So we had to like figure out other places to go because we could not plausibly get young actresses to go to a dinner anywhere but Cafe Gratitude, which is like this terrible, like vegan run by a cult place, which is honestly kind of good.
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Heather McDonald
Does it still exist?
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Guy Branham
Yes, on Larchmont.
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Heather McDonald
Oh, amazing.
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Guy Branham
You've never been?
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Heather McDonald
No.
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Guy Branham
It's the place where you famously have to order by saying, like, I am peaceful or I am generous.
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Heather McDonald
Oh, really? Oh, my God. That is ridiculous. Yes, that is. That's very funny. Okay. Cardi B. Did you hear what happened to her?
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Guy Branham
No.
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Heather McDonald
So her baby daddy. So she has the three kids with Offset, who I think she was married to. Then she fell in love with this guy, Stefan Diggs, who plays for the Patriots and had his baby and she planned a million dollar party, like after party or whatever. But then she realized that his other baby mama, who has a baby around the same age as hers, was in the front row with the baby, with the baby wearing the jersey. And so then she got all pissed, didn't go to the party. He didn't go to the party. She left the game and stopped following him.
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Guy Branham
I mean, you have to have some sense of generosity and responsibility when there's another child involved, you know, Like, I.
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Heather McDonald
Mean, but when they're the same age, it makes it hard.
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Guy Branham
No, a hundred percent.
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Heather McDonald
I mean, talk to all the Nick Cannon people.
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Guy Branham
Yes. Like, I get that it feels weird and I get that you want a sense of like, of being proprietary, but also like, you're very famous and your kid is gonna get to be the very famous one for all of time. And that's kid gets to watch his dad, like, even though he's young enough to not be sentient.
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Heather McDonald
That's a good point.
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Guy Branham
Yeah, he's a Little bit. He needs to have the memories of like.
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Heather McDonald
No, I mean, she was just being a jealous girl. I mean, that's hands down. It has to do with the woman. It's do with the.
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Guy Branham
I get that. And the thing is, it's like I want Cardi B to be too much. I want her to have fights and everything like that. But I also think you need to separate like business and family to some extent, you know?
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Heather McDonald
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Guy Branham
Whatever our souls are made of, his.
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Heather McDonald
And mine are the same. Experience.
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Guy Branham
The greatest love story of all time.
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Heather McDonald
Why did you leave me?
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Guy Branham
Why did you betray your own heart?
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Heather McDonald
Oh father. Film by Emerald Fennell Keith Cliff Kathy.
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Guy Branham
Margot Robbie Jacob Alordi Kiss me and let us both be damned.
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Heather McDonald
Wuthering Heights Original songs by Charlie XCX.
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Guy Branham
Only in theaters tomorrow. Experience at an IMAX Rated R under 17. Not admitted without parent.
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Heather McDonald
Okay, so talk shows are not doing well. They canceled Sherry Shepherd.
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Guy Branham
Uhhuh.
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Heather McDonald
Kelly Clarkson, whose show is very successful. She's choosing to end it. Yes, of course. Wendy Williams. You know that has been around a long time. What's your thought about the ending talk show era?
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Guy Branham
I don't understand how they can't continue to make daytime talk shows profitable. Like it does just seem to be like an area where you do still have people watching. Like it kills me because I Love talk shows. Like we worked on a talk show together. It's like they're a part of TV that I really like and enjoy. But also I'm interested to hear your thoughts because this is what is taking their place. Like basically.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah, right, That's. So they were saying this article or what article I read was like, oh, people don't have the, the attention span to sit through an hour long talk show. But then why are there three hours of Joe Rogan? Yeah. And two hours. And this is an hour and 20 minute on YouTube and everything else kind of talk. I mean, I just feel that the audience that was the talk show audience, they grew up and the new person that would maybe have watched it now like a 30 year old that's like home. And it's the daytime, they're just not choosing. It's just not their jam.
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Guy Branham
Well, it's so weird because I think those morning shows particularly are like a check in with the world, you know, like the View and to a lesser extent, Kelly and Mark. Like I do, I would think that people would still want that, but maybe podcasts are better at it. And also like, podcasts are less filtered. You know, you don't have a producer who is like overly managing what the questions are in the same way, though. I mean, with something like Amy Poehler's show, it does feel like, you know, they've probably agreed about what's talked about or what. What's not talked about. But also it's just like you can have like a tighter turnaround and you can talk about realer issues.
- [26:18]
Heather McDonald
I mean, I just think that the reason podcasts do really well is you find your few people that you love and vibe with and maybe. And most likely they think like you.
- [26:33]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [26:33]
Heather McDonald
Like, they're like, oh, you're my best friend in my head, whatever. And people really actually want to listen and spend their time with people that they vibe with.
- [26:41]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [26:41]
Heather McDonald
And so the talk show thing, whether it was the Talk or the View or whatever, it's like, oh, let's have five, three different views and let's have this. And I don't really think people want to hear a view that doesn't match their own. I mean, you know, they're always a problem. Yeah, it is a problem because people are always like, I need, you know, if they say they want their favorite celebrity to speak on something and someone said, I don't think you want my opinion. You want my, you want to know my opinion so that you can either know that I think like you. And if I don't. Then you have a reason to like be angry. But you really don't wanna know my opinion. You know, it was something like that and I was like, yeah, I think that's, you know, why you can find your niche, you know, find your person. But I don't know, I mean, I think just it's about life. Like I joked with Chris the other day that like we kind of, we like going to hotels. Cause it's like old fashioned tv. That's when I do watch this stuff.
- [27:38]
Guy Branham
Right. No, I mean my favorite thing about going on the road is watching like old school TV and just like exact get like watching a bunch of guys grocery games or something like that.
- [27:49]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, it's like comforting or like, or the way the room's set up so I can like do, do my hair and makeup while I'm watching some like morning show.
- [27:57]
Guy Branham
And it makes me like, I used to host games for Kelly Clarkson on a pretty regular basis and it was like such a fun vibe and like.
- [28:03]
Heather McDonald
Oh, for the talk show.
- [28:04]
Guy Branham
Yes. And getting to watch like celebrities like play outside of their comfort zone. And I also think we're destroying a promotional infrastructure for TV and film. Yeah, that is bad. Like that used to be where you learned, oh, Jack Black has a new movie. I want to see that movie.
- [28:20]
Heather McDonald
Yes, you're right.
- [28:21]
Guy Branham
I don't know that podcasts are as effective.
- [28:24]
Heather McDonald
They're definitely not. Yeah, it's like I saw there is this in my little like shopping cute area where there's a movie theater. There's like this poster around a light pole. And the movie came out December 12th and it's. Who's the girl in Devil Wears Prada?
- [28:42]
Guy Branham
Anne Hathaway.
- [28:43]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, it's Anne Hathaway and it's called like Emma Jones or something. It came out December 12th.
- [28:50]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [28:51]
Heather McDonald
Has anyone even heard of that movie? I'm like, how did this come and go? This is a major movie star and it's a New York movie. The poster is her trying to put on her heel. I mean it's a classic like dry bar movie.
- [29:02]
Guy Branham
But is that Anne Hathaway?
- [29:04]
Heather McDonald
Yes.
- [29:05]
Guy Branham
Like I think that is the James L. Brooks movie that starred someone who I think looks like Anne Hathaway.
- [29:11]
Heather McDonald
Well, whatever. Nobody watched it.
- [29:13]
Guy Branham
That movie was. It was star studded. And that movie was famously bad. So it was the guy who made like Terms of Endearment and stuff. But now he's like 80 and he's been like a Simpsons billionaire for like 30 years now. And apparently like it was just untethered from reality.
- [29:30]
Heather McDonald
Okay, well, yeah, I mean, yeah, you wouldn't know about these things is what I'm saying. Like, you're right. It would normally be the same person come around. You wear the outfit at seven minutes. Now it just seems like a seven minute interview just seems like so dumb and short.
- [29:45]
Guy Branham
And the thing is, there's nothing real that happens. There's nothing real that happens. I just went and Marc Shaiman, the guy who wrote music for, like, When Harry Met Sally and he wrote Hairspray, but he released a book and he talked to Bette Midler and they were talking about when Bette did the last Johnny Carson and he arranged the music for her and played with her. But just like you had those iconic moments from talk shows where something really real and exciting happened and publicists have made that impossible. For the last 20 years, like, talk shows have been boring. When people say something interesting, they say it on a podcast.
- [30:24]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, Yeah. I don't know. I feel bad for Sherri shepherd, except that she never had me on, so I don't feel that bad. Neither did Kelly Clarkson, But Kelly Clarkson doesn't need the show and she's moving on. It started in LA and then it moved to New York.
- [30:37]
Guy Branham
Yes. And the thing is, is, like, Kelly Clarkson figured out how to make that show about the stuff that she is good at and loves to do in a way that was like, every day she would cover somebody else's song and sing it better than they ever have. And, like, it was cool to have somebody who wasn't a comic and made it about, like, her skill set and her honesty. I think that the type of television that requires the greatest degree of sincerity is cooking show. But I think daytime talk show is very close. But, like, cooking show. Every time I see Valerie Bertinelli, I'm like, I believe it. And when I see Faith Hill or whoever it was who had a cook, there was one of those country ladies at a cooking show and I'm like, I'm not buying it, but fucking Valerie Bertinelli. I'm like, buying it.
- [31:21]
Heather McDonald
But, you know, now I wonder, like, has. Have we talked about, you know, missing old school TV and people just like, missing the simpler stuff and people saying, like, I don't know what's real on my phone anymore and, like, I need to put down my phone. I wonder if there could be like a resurgence of it.
- [31:37]
Guy Branham
I think so, because, like, of just.
- [31:38]
Heather McDonald
A simple, let me just watch you make a dish.
- [31:41]
Guy Branham
I like, I didn't work for Meghan Markle, but whatever that's because it wasn't sincere. Like, you knew that that wasn't her. Like, she was being, like, too put together and too prim about how her life. You know, she was taking pretzels out of one plastic bag and putting it into a different plastic bag. But, like, I watch the Graham Norton show so much because he does. He, like, is fun and alive, and he puts celebrities who shouldn't be on a couch together on a couch together. And they interact and they have fun and it's a good time.
- [32:12]
Heather McDonald
You know, I just was thinking about the Rest in Peace, the Meghan Markle show with the. With those pretzels that are filled with peanut butter thing. That whole idea was just so funny because it was like she had this guy come where she had to act like they were best friends or he was her hairdresser. And then she's like, so you put. And I put a whole basket together for his room. He's spending the night. And it's just like such a. It was just such a. It's such a weird thing. And then it's like, well, no, we know when you're not spending the night. Cause this is, like, not your house. And then we're supposed to pretend that he's just gonna sit in the room like a fucking mouse and eat these pretzels.
- [32:49]
Guy Branham
Three separate times, she cut up raw fruit or vegetables and put it on a platter. And that was what she did. Like, three separate times, she made just a crudite plate. And that was what she did. And I know that they're trying to be like, oh, I'm not trying to be too fancy. I'm just being approachable. One pot pasta. But it's like, you're not being approachable. Your whole point is that you're a duchess and you have your own bees. And I don't for a minute believe that she has her own bees. Fucking Martha has her own bees. Like, Martha, you know, like, she has her own bees. And, you know, one of my favorite moments from all of television is it was Cooking with Julia Child. It was a series on pbs. And Martha came on to make a wedding cake. And Julia Child said to her, that seems like a lot of work. Like, Julia Child was like, that just seems like too much work.
- [33:40]
Heather McDonald
I agree that it was all these extra steps. You were like, what? Like, right before Martha got there, it was like. Like there was the era of, oh, my God, you could buy a cake box. You can. You know, there's all the. There was all the helper stuff. Like, my mom still made meals, but there was, like. There literally was Hamburger Helper. There was this, there was that. And then we got to, like, doing it yourself. And now people are making their own bread.
- [34:03]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [34:03]
Heather McDonald
When the saying in life was, you know, it's. Nothing's as great as sliced bread. There's a reason someone said that, because they didn't want to make bread anymore. And now these women are, like, flexing. They're like, my man knows how to make a good living so that I can stay home and make bread. I'm like, what are you doing? Go to the store and buy a loaf of bread.
- [34:21]
Guy Branham
Have you seen the woman who's like, my children have never had Pop Tarts, and I wanted them to try Pop Tarts or, like, Doritos or whatever. And then she makes Doritos from scratch.
- [34:29]
Heather McDonald
Yes.
- [34:30]
Guy Branham
But, like, with, you know, like, Ammer Wheat and maple sugar, and it's like, well, that's not gonna be Cheerios.
- [34:39]
Heather McDonald
I mean, I don't even think anybody in real life is doing that that doesn't have a Internet following.
- [34:45]
Guy Branham
Yes. I mean, that's the whole point.
- [34:46]
Heather McDonald
And no one's really doing that. They're doing it for videos.
- [34:48]
Guy Branham
You're being ridiculous and you're performing. Yeah, there. There is this sort of like, ugh, I just have the time to, you know, make my own ricotta from scratch. So that's what I'm doing out here on the farm. And it's like, I've been to a farm. That's not how farms work.
- [35:04]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. I mean, I. I don't know. It's. It's. It's crazy. Okay, well, we'll see what happens with them, Sherry. I'm sure Sheri shepherd will have a podcast, you know, in a. In six months.
- [35:15]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [35:15]
Heather McDonald
Okay. A couple little things coming up. Okay. Well, now, thank goodness, some major mainstream media is starting to cover what is in the Department of Justice files. They're going to drop more. They were redacting names, and they put six back, and one was the Wexler guy. I'm like, tell us something we didn't know.
- [35:40]
Guy Branham
Were you a little sad that your name wasn't there anywhere?
- [35:42]
Heather McDonald
Absolutely not.
- [35:44]
Guy Branham
I was a little bit like, I just wanna feel famous enough that, like, I'm in some sort of thing that shows up. Les Wexner is, like, the least interesting thing.
- [35:53]
Heather McDonald
Wexner. That's it.
- [35:55]
Guy Branham
It's like, we already knew that he was heavily connected with this guy. And also, Les Wexner does not want to have sex with women. So Les Wexner has a wife that's.
- [36:03]
Heather McDonald
The guy who owns the Victoria's Secret and everything.
- [36:05]
Guy Branham
Yes. And the rumor is that a young Jeffrey Epstein took care of him and then stole money from him.
- [36:12]
Heather McDonald
Right.
- [36:12]
Guy Branham
And then Les Wexner had to be okay with it or else he, Jeffrey Epstein, would reveal that they had had sex with each other. And I think that that's amazing.
- [36:22]
Heather McDonald
Right? And then the things that are coming. The things that are coming out, unfortunately, are just really, really gross.
- [36:29]
Guy Branham
And I don't. I want to say I don't think it's amazing in a good way. I'm just stunned by the level of operation that Jeffrey Epstein had from, like, from Jump like that he was always swindling. But, yes, it is truly gross. And it's very funny seeing everybody being like, oh, well, yes, I just had some dinners with him. I wasn't one of the ones who was going for handjobs to. The one that we all knew was the desert island handjob guy.
- [36:58]
Heather McDonald
Well, of course we knew Andrew. Prince Andrew was involved. Now there's new emails in which he and Sarah are writing Jeffrey Epstein and they're talking about their life and everything with him. And they are. At one point, they sent photos of the daughters. Not naked or anything, but just, here are the girls. You asked to see them, Here they are. And I mean, maybe their argument, maybe a Sarah Ferguson argument was like. Like, I never knew that he was doing anything nefarious. I just thought he was a rich friend. But in hers, she was even like, I know there was one that she's like, I know that, you know, the Duke and I are no longer together, but I feel like you're ignoring me. Like, I love you, we're friends.
- [37:42]
Guy Branham
Did you see the one where she was just like, I need £20,000?
- [37:45]
Heather McDonald
No, what's that one?
- [37:46]
Guy Branham
She was like, I'm behind on rent, I need £20,000. If there's anything you could do about it, or something along those lines.
- [37:53]
Heather McDonald
So that's why she's, like, being nice. And did he give it to her?
- [37:56]
Guy Branham
I don't know. But it is this thing of, like, is that how you just are expected or have to live when you're, like a member of the Royal Family and you have all of these famous friends or these very wealthy friends, but you yourself do not have a great source of income? I, of course, learned most of what I know about the sources of income from the, like, 1989 TV movie about Sarah Ferguson.
- [38:20]
Heather McDonald
Sarah Ferguson was married to Prince Andrew. They got divorced after they got divorced, everyone. She became super popular because she was seen as the heavier princess. And she wasn't even heavy.
- [38:34]
Guy Branham
Right.
- [38:35]
Heather McDonald
But then she lost some weight.
- [38:37]
Guy Branham
Yes. She got a weight Watcher steal, I think.
- [38:39]
Heather McDonald
Yes. And everyone was like, she's so relatable. So then she comes to America. I was in testing rooms to do talk shows with her, to be like, regulars on talk shows. Meanwhile, she's also begging Jeffrey Epstein for $20,000 and sending photos of her daughter so that, like, he'll. I don't know. And then the. The amount of people that. There's a couple other really weird ones where it was this guy, Howard Lutnick, who is. What is his role? He's right now. And he said under oath, I never talked to him after he was convicted of the first round of crimes.
- [39:20]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [39:21]
Heather McDonald
But then they found in the emails that they were writing back and forth, and he's like, hey, let's hang out on Sunday. Tell me where the captain's supposed to park the yacht. On Eversheet Island. I'm with another couple, and he names their name, and he said, we each have four children with us. And then he gives all the ages. And so I immediately start Googling. Did they have kids those ages? And from what I have discovered, they did.
- [39:50]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [39:51]
Heather McDonald
So it was their kids. Now, does that make it worse? Or were they being, like, normal people that when they go to a single man's place, they're like, hey, we have our kids with us. Is that okay? These are their ages. Like, are you okay with this many kids? And. Or should we. Or should we leave them on the yacht? I don't know.
- [40:07]
Guy Branham
Well, it's just hard to understand how people understood this guy. He's just, like, how much of a reputation. Like. Cause his reputation was as, like, the party dude. Right, Right. But it, like. But also just like, oh, when you're taking your yacht to St. Barts, this is one of the places that you stop off at. You go and you say hi to Geoffrey. Like, I don't understand, like, what. What interest he had for them if they weren't interested.
- [40:36]
Heather McDonald
Right.
- [40:37]
Guy Branham
In that kind of thing. And it is such an interesting sort of, like, overlap between the era when no one could find out about stuff like this and the era of being able to, like, effortlessly search those files.
- [40:48]
Heather McDonald
You know, it's overwhelming. I've just seen so many things, and all the. The stories of, you know, did, like, when people talked about, like, Illuminati or what people do to stay famous, and, like, you're like, I don't know. Did they really do this weird shit? Were they under the impression that if they did these sick demonic things that it keeps them at the top of the totem pole of fame and wealth forever?
- [41:20]
Guy Branham
Like, like I don't, I don't know how many sick demonic things were like. I mean, I think rape is sick and demonic, but like, I just assumed that it was like, no, there's stuff.
- [41:32]
Heather McDonald
In there that's like what you think.
- [41:33]
Guy Branham
Oh, really?
- [41:34]
Heather McDonald
Eating babies, what it tastes like on the yachts? Yes, yes.
- [41:39]
Guy Branham
Oh, wow.
- [41:40]
Heather McDonald
And so it's like, no, that's what I don't think people are realizing. And I didn't realize it when I talked about it last week. Like, it's so weird. It's so awful and so weird. And you know, then there's the ones that are just like, like there was one that, that actually Brandon found and this guy is like, I'm a comedian, tell me who this comic is. So you read it. And of course in it the guy, the comedian says, it was so great that you came to the show. Thanks for the great dinner. Really enjoyed the conversation. If you're interested, I'll be at this comedy club on this weekend at this time in a month or whatever. So someone was able to look at the date of when this was written, go a month ahead, look at the comedy club because it says the city in the club and they're like, we know who's performing there.
- [42:32]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [42:33]
Heather McDonald
And in this particular one, this all over TikTok, it was, I don't care. There's. It was Bobby Slayton who was performing at that weekend. I don't know if you read it, it doesn't say I can't wait to go on the island with you. It doesn't say anything like that.
- [42:46]
Guy Branham
Right.
- [42:47]
Heather McDonald
Which means it could have been, oh my God, he was such an interesting guy. He knows all these famous people. He's best friends with Woody Allen. Maybe he said, I want to put you in a Woody Allen movie. Who the fuck knows?
- [42:57]
Guy Branham
Maybe there was a tear level to Jeffrey Epstein friendship. Like at Platinum plus you get to eat babies. At just Platinum, you get to sex traffic women. But then there was just sort of.
- [43:08]
Heather McDonald
Like you could have a dinner and maybe get thrown a bone.
- [43:11]
Guy Branham
Yes. The ad supported tier is you get to hang out with Woody Allen and suny.
- [43:15]
Heather McDonald
Right. I mean, I don't, I, it's, it's a lot. And then, and then, and then Ghislaine said, I'm taking the fifth. Like I'm not going to say anything until I know that I have a better deal.
- [43:27]
Guy Branham
Like, that's insane that that woman is terrible.
- [43:32]
Heather McDonald
But also, can you blame her? She's the only one behind bars. She's like, I better play this car, these cards right. I don't want to sit in this prison for the rest of my life. Either want to get to said to a nicer one or I want to get out. So I think she's trying to figure out how to do that.
- [43:46]
Guy Branham
I just don't understand how all these billionaires couldn't figure out how to get hand jobs with their billions of dollars. And also. So why not get hand jobs from people who know what they're doing?
- [43:56]
Heather McDonald
Exactly. I think that that's why I'm like, I try to think about what is in their brains, you know, like.
- [44:01]
Guy Branham
Well, I do think it is when you're like a level of rich where you can have anything, you can have anything necessary, people want the thing that they can't have.
- [44:10]
Heather McDonald
And then it goes back. If you really want to go down rabbit holes to like these five families that are truly like running the world and the banking and all of that. And then you really went from, you know, Gettys, Rothschilds, whatever. And you're like, is this really true today? Like, what is the connection? But then you want it also ends.
- [44:31]
Guy Branham
Up on the doorstep of like deep anti Semitism, you know?
- [44:35]
Heather McDonald
Right. And then there's that. Yes, it's so much. So here's a story from the California Post. West Hollywood lawyer turned onlyfans creator arrested in Miami gay cruise drug bust. I mean, that is a lot to take in. And then the description is a redheaded LA lawyer turned only fan star. Like they even add another layer to this story. Do you know him?
- [45:01]
Guy Branham
I don't. What's his name?
- [45:03]
Heather McDonald
I don't know if they said his name.
- [45:04]
Guy Branham
The thing is, is that like essentially. Oh wait, no, I do know him.
- [45:08]
Heather McDonald
Do you really?
- [45:09]
Guy Branham
Yes, absolutely.
- [45:10]
Heather McDonald
Because he's a lawyer or because he.
- [45:12]
Guy Branham
Is a redhead from Provincetown. Like I met him there.
- [45:18]
Heather McDonald
Did you know when you met him, did you know him as a lawyer or did you know him as an onlyfans talent?
- [45:22]
Guy Branham
I knew him as just like a naked gay guy. But the thing is like one of my friends jokes that like doing a drug raid as people were getting onto a gay cruise is essentially entrapment. Like that's what people are doing. Like this guy can't have his good time while drinking alcohol. How would he maintain those abs? He has to have GHP and a Little bit of meth there, but, like, it's not. Yeah, like those, those cruises. I've never been on one. I do think I would possibly kill myself if I was on one. And I also see how.
- [45:56]
Heather McDonald
So have you been asked to perform or anything?
- [45:58]
Guy Branham
No, they've never asked me to perform or anything. And I do think, like, it's a circuit party on a boat, so everyone is there. Like, you know, it's those worked out gay guys.
- [46:09]
Heather McDonald
Julie does a lot of the cruises and performs and she says. And she went when she was. She was snorkeling. I'm like, she said she was snorkeling. Okay. And that is where she saw guys, like blowing each other in the water while she was looking for fishes. Like, that's how rampant it was.
- [46:32]
Guy Branham
No, well, in the. A couple of years ago, there was a thing where two guys were having sex in their room and somebody on land in Haiti saw it and they called the authorities because gay sex is still illegal in Haiti. So the notion of being gay and then going around the Caribbean comes with its own dangers from a number of angles. But like, yeah, I mean, gay guys love having sex in public. Like, it's just, you know, a thing. And like these, like these cruises are just, you know, it's. It's just people doing drugs. It's people having sex and doing drugs.
- [47:06]
Heather McDonald
With these gay cruises, is there like levels? Like, there's a one that's like low brow and younger and less expensive and then you want to go on the nicer one, but the nicer one is just old, rich gays.
- [47:19]
Guy Branham
Like, the amazing thing about the gay community is there just aren't enough of us for there to be multiple levels. Like, there's just the one company. I know their name and I'm not saying it.
- [47:30]
Heather McDonald
Okay?
- [47:30]
Guy Branham
But there's like just the one thing. Like, we don't even have like, like a Caribbean or like they just opened a resort in not Cabo. What's the other one? Puerto Vallarta. In Puerto Vallarta, they just opened like an Ange resort in Puerto Vallarta. But before that there wasn't even just a resort. That was ours because there aren't enough of us. But the important things to take away from this is that every worked out gay lawyer and optometrist in Columbus, Ohio, is just doing that so he can go and like, live a debauched life on a boat for one week out of the year. Like, all of those guys, like, all of. Like, my friend Andrew insists that every gay lawyer is Just doing it so that they can go, like, do drugs on a. On a beach somewhere for two weeks out of three years.
- [48:23]
Heather McDonald
And what's the drugs that they like to do?
- [48:25]
Guy Branham
Ghb, cocaine, some of them.
- [48:28]
Heather McDonald
But the ghb, the date. Date rape, yes. Oh.
- [48:31]
Guy Branham
But gay guys remove the middleman and just date rape drug themselves. So ghb, meth, cocaine. There's something called meth, and I have.
- [48:42]
Heather McDonald
No idea what it is, and they're not there. Are they scared that they could get slipped something wrong in it and then accidentally die?
- [48:49]
Guy Branham
Well, it's more about doing the math wrong. Like, generally on these cruises, like, the notion of one guy dying every cruise is kind of normal. Like just sort of one person overdoses and dies.
- [49:01]
Heather McDonald
And does the crew stop or do they act like it didn't happen till the end?
- [49:05]
Guy Branham
I think you have to stop and you have to deal with Bahamian officials and, like, repatriate the body and that sort of thing. But, you know, and they like what.
- [49:17]
Heather McDonald
Happens with the rest of people that came in the crew. Like a four guys went together and one passes. Do they continue with their free drinks or what do they do?
- [49:26]
Guy Branham
I have to assume so. You know, like, later, when they return to Manhattan, will they leave one of the bikes open in honor of him at the sin class? Yes. But, you know, you paid your money for the cruise. Like, you're gonna get your good time out of it.
- [49:44]
Heather McDonald
And so you have never been asked to perform, and therefore you have never thought I would have fud there?
- [49:50]
Guy Branham
No. Okay. So in the run up all your years, in the run up to my last birthday, my friend Matt, whose birthday is like the same week as mine, was like, let's go on this cruise. It was Atlantis cruise of Asia. And he was like, let's do this for our birthday.
- [50:05]
Heather McDonald
Okay.
- [50:05]
Guy Branham
And it was, like, semi tempting, but I had already planned something myself. And so I was like, no. Like, it does seem tempting, but also it's like, I'm not gonna be the flavor of gay that most of those guys are looking for, so it, like, wouldn't be fun. I mean, I think performing would be interesting, but apparently performing is also, like, rough in its way because they're all, like, naked and drugged. And, you know, I think there are on the cruise, like, some older gentlemen who are looking like, you know, have.
- [50:35]
Heather McDonald
A conversation and enjoy the performances.
- [50:39]
Guy Branham
But they are not, you know, the center of the story.
- [50:42]
Heather McDonald
Got it. Okay. According to tmz, Britney Spears sells her rights to her music catalog. She just signed a massive new music Deal. One that sells her rights to her extensive music catalog.
- [50:57]
Guy Branham
I'm worried about this. Like, I just finished watching the Traitor Season 3, and Sam Asghari was very savage. And I am, like, had him on the show. Oh, did he seem smart?
- [51:07]
Heather McDonald
Oh, yeah. It was really interesting to have him on because it was probably like five months ago and there was a lot going on in Iran at the time, as there is now. But he really spoke so, you know, heartfelt about what it was like to be a child to come over here and why they left because he had sisters and what it means and. And he really talked about that. But, I mean, he also shared about being with Britney.
- [51:34]
Guy Branham
I mean, it's just. What did he have to say?
- [51:37]
Heather McDonald
I mean, I can't remember what he said because we had some conversation off, but you see her spinning.
- [51:45]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [51:46]
Heather McDonald
I hung out with her for maybe 25 minutes one night. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be married to her either.
- [51:52]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [51:52]
Heather McDonald
Like, I just think it's very hard when someone is mentally in her space. And I think you marry her and you hope and maybe you think, like, okay, now we're married, we're gonna. Things are gonna change. And. No, I mean, it was he who I think just decided, like, I can't. And he had, like, a cute girlfriend with him here, and I just think he wants to be an actor and everything. I don't think he used her or anything like that. I think they were together and I think he was hoping that this would be like his wife forever.
- [52:24]
Guy Branham
But her catalog, I just wish she. It's that hard thing of you wish she had somebody with her who was helping manage her, but her life was destroyed.
- [52:33]
Heather McDonald
She has Kade Hudson, who's Cade. Cade?
- [52:36]
Guy Branham
Cade Hudson?
- [52:37]
Heather McDonald
Yes. You know him?
- [52:38]
Guy Branham
No. Is that her boyfriend now?
- [52:39]
Heather McDonald
No, he's her manager.
- [52:41]
Guy Branham
Okay.
- [52:43]
Heather McDonald
He's gay. He has a lot of big clients. He's fun to hang around. I've hung out with him. So, I mean, I don't know that it's a bad idea because, I mean, I don't think she's going to really ever perform again. So I think this sets her up financially truly to live the rest of her life. Don't you think?
- [53:06]
Guy Branham
I mean, the thing that she needs is just to be able to live her life on the terms that she wants. And if this allows for that. It's just that her catalog has to be bringing in so much money on a regular basis that I would think it would be able to take care of her, her needing to do this. My question Is why. But the thing I hadn't thought about before is if she realizes this money in one pot, now, whoever is representing her gets 10% of that instead of having to, you know, possibly be fired or whatever and move along. So that is interesting to me. But, like, I want her to have her happiness under whatever terms she needs. And, you know. Yeah.
- [53:49]
Heather McDonald
I mean, I just wonder if people that are in. Oh, that mental place. Okay. Whether it's you're truly, you know, you need to be on drugs or you're not on drugs, but you are just spinning around and talking in accents and slapping your own ass.
- [54:05]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [54:06]
Heather McDonald
And then the next day you do that, and maybe in your brain, like, that's fine.
- [54:12]
Guy Branham
Yeah. Yeah.
- [54:13]
Heather McDonald
It's like, what do I know? I'm still in my house. I still see my friend that, you know, or my. Who I think is my friend. I get to go to Mexico. I get to spin around. I see that, you know, 42,000 people liked it.
- [54:27]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [54:28]
Heather McDonald
And, like, that's enough for me. She doesn't want to commit to, like, doing shows. She's done it already.
- [54:33]
Guy Branham
I just. I mean, the thing. But selling the catalog means no longer having the regular source of income. And I just don't want to come to a point.
- [54:41]
Heather McDonald
So you mean it just is one big chunk of money.
- [54:43]
Guy Branham
Yeah, it's one big chunk of.
- [54:45]
Heather McDonald
So what do you think it is? $100 million to $200 million? Maybe.
- [54:49]
Guy Branham
I mean, I just.
- [54:49]
Heather McDonald
It should be more than that.
- [54:51]
Guy Branham
Yes, I'm sure it will be a sizable amount of money, but I'm sure it cannot equal what it would have been if she had just collected that money for the next 40 years. That's the whole point. Like, when Michael Jackson did it, I think it was because of the settlements that he had to do with the, you know, kids.
- [55:08]
Heather McDonald
Are you excited to see his movie?
- [55:10]
Guy Branham
Oh, no, I didn't. I don't. I don't know about it.
- [55:12]
Heather McDonald
You don't know that his movie's coming out?
- [55:14]
Guy Branham
No.
- [55:14]
Heather McDonald
So it's one. Some relative, nephew. Something is playing him. And from what I saw, it looks very good. Yeah, it looks like it only goes up to a certain point. Like, the family's behind it, so they probably don't get to the accusations and all that. And so it'll just be like his story. I'm sure the Pepsi burning off his head story, you know, when he gets in the commercial. I don't know.
- [55:46]
Guy Branham
But both of them were just people who did not get to have a childhood. And it seems so Sad to me.
- [55:51]
Heather McDonald
I mean, I love every Michael Jackson movie. Remember the one with who's the. She played the mom. Oh, God. It was like a made for TV movie and it was just really how awful the dad was that he cheated.
- [56:05]
Guy Branham
And he was very violent.
- [56:07]
Heather McDonald
He was cheated and was violent with the kids. And that one was really. Wait, who is the actress that's like in. Oh, the actress that played Tita Turner.
- [56:18]
Guy Branham
Oh, it's Angela Bassett.
- [56:19]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. So Angela Bassett plays the mom. And I just remember the made for TV movie where she's like, she kind of had like a limp. Her character, you know, the real woman had a limp or whatever. And so she's like, I'll get you some eye shoes. She's being nice to her husband and the phone rings and it's like some mistress and she's just like, like, like she just put up with so much.
- [56:38]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [56:39]
Heather McDonald
And then being in this weird place where they were just such a phenomenon and then realizing that the young that here, this one is the one that's going to be the star.
- [56:49]
Guy Branham
No, I mean, that's got to be very hard. And like, his brothers were so mean to him because he was the star in that dynamic. Like, almost in the way that, like Prince Charles got bullied because, like, everyone knew he was going to be king. But then they also saw he was like a person and emotionally vulnerable. That's always really hard.
- [57:06]
Heather McDonald
You know how people know that, like, Paris Hilton changed her voice and then you'll see her with her normal voice.
- [57:12]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [57:13]
Heather McDonald
So Michael Jackson then created that high voice.
- [57:15]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [57:16]
Heather McDonald
And I remember people, Kenan being one of them, Karen Wayne saying that, like, he talked to him and he was like, doesn't talk like that.
- [57:24]
Guy Branham
Oh, wow.
- [57:26]
Heather McDonald
He didn't have. It was like an effect. And I always wondered if it was like he was sort of obsessed with Diana Ross and is that why he, like, wanted to sound like her when she spoke? It was so strange that. Why, if you were also wanting to present that you were straight and regular dad and not whatever he was sexually, who knows? But why then would you take on such a high feminine voice?
- [57:53]
Guy Branham
That is very interesting. There have been so many celebrities more recently who have really effectively created Personas to distance who they are really from who we consume. You know, Sia not letting us see her face forever. And, like, part of me is like.
- [58:06]
Heather McDonald
And then she does right now.
- [58:07]
Guy Branham
She does. Yeah. But, like, what if Michael Jackson were that savvy? I just don't believe that he was that savvy. I just, I'm never gonna stop worrying about Britney Spears, you know?
- [58:15]
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
- [58:16]
Guy Branham
I'm like, just never going to. Yeah. Because once it's a set amount of money, she's gotta be able to run through that money, you know, it's just sad.
- [58:24]
Heather McDonald
Like I was watching this like, compilation of all little highlights of like the super bowl for the last 30 years or whatever, starting at like 1991.
- [58:34]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [58:34]
Heather McDonald
And they. And you're like, oh, I remember that one. Oh, okay. Oh, Jester Timberlake did it twice. Oh, this is where, you know, Janet Jackson's tit was exposed. And that was such a scandal. Right. And of course the woman took the fall for that.
- [58:47]
Guy Branham
Her.
- [58:48]
Heather McDonald
Anyway. But she was in one of the super bowl things. And just to see her be like. Yeah, yeah. And like be so sharp and so great when we've only seen this Instagram side of her for like the last five years, it's just kind of like, it's a bummer. And this is a bummer that she's always dressed in these weird cheap outfits.
- [59:08]
Guy Branham
I was going to ask felt hats. How many peasant tops do you think she owns?
- [59:12]
Heather McDonald
So many. And. And like, and it's always like, you know, a bikini bottom.
- [59:16]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [59:17]
Heather McDonald
With like a winter hat and a. And a boot.
- [59:20]
Guy Branham
It's just so sad that there was no one there to take care of her. Like it.
- [59:25]
Heather McDonald
I just think. Who is. I just think anyone that's hanging out with her is hanging out with her because they're being paid. Because after a while I don't care that she's. That you loved every single song that she ever wrote. And you're like, I can't believe I'm in the presence of Britney Spears. It would be. It's like being. It's like watching, like having to be on call and watching a three year old all day. So it's like, let's get yogurt. Let's.
- [59:51]
Guy Branham
Dad.
- [59:51]
Heather McDonald
I mean, I just, I think even if you're just like that girl that's like her paid assistant, after a while you're probably like, I can't do it.
- [59:58]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [59:59]
Heather McDonald
But who knows? Whatever this thing is, I hope it's the right move.
- [60:04]
Guy Branham
I hope so.
- [60:05]
Heather McDonald
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- [64:58]
Guy Branham
I've been loving this season. Amanda's the worst and I feel like everyone having that to agree on, like having a common enemy has been really good.
- [65:06]
Heather McDonald
Totally.
- [65:06]
Guy Branham
But also just the shape of things has been really different in a way that was unexpected. Like I think Dorit has been throwing punches and you know I love that. Um, I feel like Eric Erica is coming back a little bit and after having the weight of the show on her for two seasons, she's been kind of breezy for a while and I kind of want her to have a real story. And Bo Bows. What do we call her? Bozoma Bose is her name. Yes. Sorry. But like and like Bose has just been really fun and kooky. I loved her friend from Denver coming to tacos when Mauricio shows. How does that work with production? Do they. Are they just holding? Do you believe that Mauricio was at that location? Okay. No. Okay.
- [65:55]
Heather McDonald
No, I think they were like, they're gonna have lunch. Would you make an appearance? I think it could be that he gets paid five grand every time he shows up. And why not? I mean, right now, it was very funny that he is trying to be a dj.
- [66:09]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [66:09]
Heather McDonald
He also. He also modeled the other day, and now it's just kind of funny.
- [66:15]
Guy Branham
Like, he doesn't get to do that. And tell me about how we're opening up offices for the real estate agent.
- [66:20]
Heather McDonald
Well, as a former realtor, I will say it's a lot more fun to be a television personality model dj. That's a lot more fun than worrying about the mansion tax.
- [66:32]
Guy Branham
Like, I. Like, I do think there's something sweet about the fact that, like, Kyle is still in love with him after having, you know, they've had their midlife crises.
- [66:43]
Heather McDonald
And, like, well, laughing at him, becoming a DJ and being like, you had your middle midlife crisis. It's like you were a country groupie.
- [66:51]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [66:51]
Heather McDonald
Like, you got a girlfriend and went, not only was she country, she was tattooed, she was younger, and she was a woman. So, like.
- [67:01]
Guy Branham
And you couldn't even admit to it.
- [67:03]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. But, like, she's kind of admitted to it.
- [67:06]
Guy Branham
Jennifer Tilly has been killing it.
- [67:08]
Heather McDonald
It's so much fun.
- [67:09]
Guy Branham
Kathy is so amazing. But, like, Jennifer Tilly is a gifted performer, richer than God, and, like, knows how to give you comic relief like this.
- [67:18]
Heather McDonald
The thing is, is that these ladies are all just so interesting in their own right, that when someone goes, it's a boring season. It's a boring episode. I'm like, I'm not bored.
- [67:26]
Guy Branham
I'm not bored. And also, I do think Amanda has given us a great opportunity to embrace Rachel Zoe. Like, hating Amanda has given Rachel Zoe the space she needs to really.
- [67:36]
Heather McDonald
Just, like, Rachel Zoe is the star of the show.
- [67:39]
Guy Branham
Yep. And.
- [67:40]
Heather McDonald
And I don't. I don't know if she chose to go on this because she knew this is a way I could get out what a shit husband I'm married to.
- [67:49]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [67:49]
Heather McDonald
And I kind of want to do that.
- [67:51]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [67:51]
Heather McDonald
And I kind of want to do something fun. For me, I think it's such a great. I'm so happy that she did it.
- [67:56]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [67:57]
Heather McDonald
For all of us, but also for her. Like, I mean, this is a great thing to do when you're getting divorced. And it wasn't just divorce. Like, they've been together since, like, college, so. So even if she's not dating anyone, just to be doing something fun and different, that takes you on trips and just having like, something new in your life besides what you've been doing, I think is really fun. And then I think that she comes off like a really good friend. And when she's like, I'm sorry. I know we're supposed to all be good about not bitching about our husbands, but if we're really living authenticity in front of the cameras, we would vent to our fucking girlfriends. We all do. So I think that's why Dorit was getting upset because. Because she's like, I don't need you guys to now say I'm doing wrong when I'm on the show. And I am gonna talk about PK and that he's, you know, driving me crazy and not being a good father, in my opinion. And I'm allowed to say it. And I think she is.
- [68:56]
Guy Branham
I was. I hated Sutton for so long because I'm like, why are you being the worst person? And now I'm like, now that Sutton is behaving herself, is the show worse? Like, does the show need Sutton being terrible?
- [69:07]
Heather McDonald
I definitely think she, you know, wants. Is. Is behaving herself and is, you know, not saying name them, name them, and all that kind of stuff. But still, you know, she. She. It still all works together. I mean, the way. The way Bose was in that dinner, she really is the voice of reason, and she really is like, well, what are you talking about? Like, this isn't going to work here. Like, when she's like, I was verbally attacked and everything. People like, oh, my. You're on the Housewives. Like, you know, we're gonna have a conversation.
- [69:42]
Guy Branham
And Bose is a really good voice of reason because she throws some punches while she's doing it. I just think if Amanda were a more grounded villain, I would be much happier with the season.
- [69:53]
Heather McDonald
Well, the rumor is that she leaves halfway through or kind of stops doing shocked. I wouldn't be shocked. I don't know if she's said that. That's not true. I know we see her. Her. Like, I'm pretty sure she goes on the European goes to the Italy trip and stuff coming up. But, you know, I don't. Like. I don't think anyone, like, hates Amanda, even. Even Sutton told me when I saw her a couple weeks ago, she's like. She goes, amanda's not a bad person. Yeah, she's not a bad person. You know, it just. She's younger, and she joined the group, and she is who she is. She's this person that has made a lot of money, right, doing a fluffy manifestation. And if people are willing to pay for it. And she's delivering the goods that they're paying for. Like, we can't be mad at that. She has made that legit. Made that money herself.
- [70:44]
Guy Branham
And the show really could have used a younger person to just sort of like come in and play the game and get in there, like. Yeah. I mean, I'm wondering what.
- [70:55]
Heather McDonald
It's a weird. She is a weird person. But it helps with the show. I think they knew this is weird. She has a weird job. She kind of comes off weird. She's braggadocious. We need to throw a wrench in it. If they just picked another woman that they're all friends with. I don't know.
- [71:10]
Guy Branham
A 37 year old Lisa Vanderpump. What you need is somebody who has like enough self possession to be calling people on their.
- [71:17]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. Which she did. I mean, she kind of did with the dorit. But it's like after a while you're like, all right, whatever. But it.
- [71:25]
Guy Branham
Were you impressed by the anniversary of losing my child gambit?
- [71:31]
Heather McDonald
Like, I mean, I feel it's such a hard thing to talk about because it is so awful, you know? Okay, I'll tell you. I. All of a sudden I was like, why is this, like weirdly familiar to me? And then I remembered why. Okay, so a few years ago, maybe four years ago or so, I was like, so annoyed of seeing people do like, photos of like, you know, sorry, it's not perfect, but then they would look really good.
- [72:01]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [72:01]
Heather McDonald
And I've always been annoyed by Chrissy Teig. Yes. I've. I was annoyed when she came on Chelsea lately. I was annoyed that she thought she was a comedian. I never found her to be funny. I don't know why she gets all these jobs judging comedians when I don't think she's funny. I think what she did and wrote, I think, Yes. I think her tweets are weird that she deleted in light of things with all the pizza and the toddler and Tierra Commons. I always thought it was fucking weird. And then to see her come back on Star Search, I'm like, of all the people, she already was canceled. Now she's. Do you know she's a judge on Star Search?
- [72:33]
Guy Branham
I didn't know that with.
- [72:35]
Heather McDonald
With jelly Roll she was canceled, basically. Stodden. What's her name? Courtney Stodden.
- [72:44]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [72:45]
Heather McDonald
Kind of reminded the world that she would tweet her and say, go, go end your life. Take a dirt bath or a dirt bed or whatever. Sleep in the. All these awful things. And Then that reminded everybody of all the horrible things that she had tweeted over the years.
- [72:59]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [73:01]
Heather McDonald
That were literally pedo stuff. Okay. But then when I'm always trying to look at the other side, I'm like, I don't know. Was she trying to be funny? I don't know. Okay. She really wants to be funny. And so during that time. So I thought she went away, but she got to stay because she's married to John Legend. So anyway, she did some post where it was just like, her looking gorgeous, but her eyes were, like, shut. And she's like, yeah, I don't care. I never even ask. When my glam squad says, can. Can I take a photo of this or post it? I'm like, go ahead. And then this is like, my ugly photo. Whatever. So of course, the comments, like, what are you talking about? Chrissy Teigen, you look gorgeous. Whatever. And I just wrote something like, oh, please, enough with the humble brag. Like, if you're going to be judging comedians, like, come up with some better material. I wrote something like that. Somehow it got out there. It was a slow day, and people kind of liked that I went after her.
- [73:57]
Guy Branham
What?
- [73:58]
Heather McDonald
Whatever. And then at the end of the day, she did a post like, f you, Today is the day. The anniversary of when she had lost her baby. But she posted that photo that day.
- [74:11]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [74:12]
Heather McDonald
And how was I supposed to know that she had a miscarriage? Like, yeah. So then, like, I'm leaving my office in Wilden Hills and tmz, like, comes, and then, like, can we ask you about this? And I'm like, of course I didn't know that she lost her kid. I'm a comedian. A real comedian.
- [74:33]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [74:33]
Heather McDonald
I was pointing out humble brags on social media. That's it. I would never think to say anything. So that is where I think, like, you're going back and forth with someone, whether it's on a reality show, and then someone pulls out this thing. Like, didn't you know that? That this is this. My mother died. And you're like, no, I didn't know your mother died. Like, you were still being a. At the grocery store. I don't know what to tell you. Like, I didn't know that. And so I think that's what I think. I think it's a weird thing. She's new on the show. You know, they don't have to go to everything, but they also have a producer that guides them.
- [75:11]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [75:11]
Heather McDonald
That is probably, like, if you're up for it, I think it would be great. Or I think it'd be really great if you shared this moment. There's so many women that have been through this. You're going to, you know, like, they talk you into sharing stuff, and then the people at home criticize you for sharing it, you know, or whatever. And you're like, well, you don't know what led them decide to share it on camera.
- [75:30]
Guy Branham
And also, when you come to these things, there is an expectation that there will be some degree of confrontation about the thing that's going on, you know? But also, that's rough, and I understand not being logical when it comes to something that real and visceral, you know? Yeah.
- [75:47]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. And, um. But, you know, I think it's good. We'll. We'll see. Do you know that Costco is selling Herme Birkin bags?
- [75:57]
Guy Branham
I did not know that.
- [75:59]
Heather McDonald
At some of their international locations.
- [76:02]
Guy Branham
That's insane.
- [76:03]
Heather McDonald
So they're still thousands of dollars, but instead of being like, 30 grand, they're like nine.
- [76:08]
Guy Branham
Well, I mean, it's like.
- [76:09]
Heather McDonald
I mean, doesn't it just look like such an ugly old lady bag, like, in that. In that glass photo?
- [76:14]
Guy Branham
It really does. I mean, I would, like, I'm never gonna spend $30,000 on a bag.
- [76:19]
Heather McDonald
Never.
- [76:19]
Guy Branham
I would want to get to go to the Hermes store, you know?
- [76:22]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. The whole fun of it is going to the store. But I always wonder, when something like this happens, does this start to kill it for the brand?
- [76:31]
Guy Branham
I mean, like. But that's how the brand really makes the money, is selling out in that way, you know? But it does sort of kill the magic.
- [76:39]
Heather McDonald
But, I mean, like, if I was someone that had, like, a bunch of these bags. Cause I'd be like, the dupes are so good now that it's just like, who's to say?
- [76:48]
Guy Branham
I wish I were one of the gay guys who was good at identifying when people have a knockoff handbag. That would be a cool power to have.
- [76:54]
Heather McDonald
I can't even tell. I went into someone's closet recently, and they're like, you pick out what's real and what's fake and see how well you do.
- [77:02]
Guy Branham
That's an awesome game.
- [77:04]
Heather McDonald
I failed.
- [77:05]
Guy Branham
Oh, wow.
- [77:06]
Heather McDonald
I mean, I couldn't believe it. I was like, now this. And it was like, no, I was wrong.
- [77:12]
Guy Branham
Should we produce a thing that's like Battle of the Network Stars, but it's called Housewife Games, and we get together. We do this at BravoCon. We. We shoot it live at BravoCon, and it's just. It's like the Price is Right. Slash supermarket sweep, but for like housewife y high end things.
- [77:30]
Heather McDonald
Right. Well. And then also it's like with the, with these fake dupes and stuff, it's like if you're gonna have a dupe that the real one is like 45,000, it's gotta be believable that you would be. Would have a $45,000 bag. So you might want to just go and get a dupe of a $2,500 bag for 300.
- [77:50]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [77:50]
Heather McDonald
I say a dupe, but I mean like a fake. And then that's like the philosophy of it.
- [77:55]
Guy Branham
Nothing made me happier than when Jennifer Tilly brought along like an insane vintage bag that was like $100,000.
- [78:02]
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
- [78:03]
Guy Branham
And Erica just like had her tongue out of her mouth and was just like so respectful of like the qual, both the expense and the quality.
- [78:12]
Heather McDonald
Like, well, what else am I supposed to do with my money? I'll just use this little Titanic purse that is from Louis Vuitton. Whatever.
- [78:21]
Guy Branham
Yeah, it's amazing.
- [78:23]
Heather McDonald
It is so great. And when it was. Who was it that it was someone that said like, you're at the table. Maybe it was a content creator, but someone's like, to the Amanda, like, show some respect. Like your attitude with freaking Kathy Hilton, Jennifer Tilly, you know, Kyle, who's, you know, been on the show forever. Like, it is really just going back to that. I mean, it really is such a. It really is such a great cast.
- [78:49]
Guy Branham
It really is. Would you look askance at a diamond that came from Costco? Like if I got.
- [78:56]
Heather McDonald
I got diamonds from Costco are really good now. I got diamond hoop earrings. One. Unfortunately, I lost. Lost. And I have a cool diamond, like, different diamond necklace. But no, they are legit real diamonds and for less.
- [79:17]
Guy Branham
I mean, the frozen scallops, truly amazing. And every time I'm at the grocery store and I'm tempted to buy lobster, I'm always like, you should just buy. Go buy lobster at Costco. Like, that's.
- [79:28]
Heather McDonald
There are some great, great, great items at Costco. This. There were hundreds of teens that streamed out of an LA home. It was in the Valley after a bus party. And all the comments were like, well, at least they're not on their iPads.
- [79:43]
Guy Branham
Yes. The children going out and living in the world. Like we have teenagers who don't have sex or do drugs or. Or drink anymore. And it's nice to have these ancient traditions held alive, you know?
- [79:53]
Heather McDonald
I know. I'm like, I don't even think this is that bad. I really. So are you watching the traitors now.
- [80:00]
Guy Branham
I'm watching the traitors now.
- [80:01]
Heather McDonald
And tell me what you think. Are you up to date?
- [80:04]
Guy Branham
I am up to date.
- [80:05]
Heather McDonald
Okay, let's talk a little about that.
- [80:07]
Guy Branham
Well, the thing is, I just watched season three, so that's really alive in my mind. I really fell in love with Gabby Windy.
- [80:13]
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
- [80:14]
Guy Branham
During that. But, like, that Rob is steering things so effectively is kind of crazy to me. Like, I.
- [80:23]
Heather McDonald
When you have a trader, is Rob from Survivor. What's he from?
- [80:25]
Guy Branham
No, he's from Love Island.
- [80:27]
Heather McDonald
Oh, he's adorable.
- [80:29]
Guy Branham
The thing. One thing. One of the things I really like about Traders is that these quieter personalities, these people who aren't from reality competition shows or housewives so frequently are the end game and controlling things. And so I have real hope for Kristen Kish from Top Chef. But, like, when. When a trader starts blowing up another trader's game and accusing them, like, when he went after. I really was really hop that Lisa would last for a while. But you think she's.
- [80:57]
Heather McDonald
It's a. It's just a bummer because I guess she is so fun to watch. Like, you know, and it's like. And of course, when you know them and when you don't know them, like.
- [81:03]
Guy Branham
Also, it's her own damn fault for not being Lisa Rinna. For being like. Because she was a traitor, she was quiet, and she wasn't being Lisa Rinna. And they smelled that, you know.
- [81:13]
Heather McDonald
Good point. And then also, I saw her do an interview, and she was like. I decided to go with a more, like, gender fluid look throughout the whole thing. So that's why she was wearing, like, the combat boots and the. And so I was thinking, you know, the outfits are so ridiculous on everybody. They come to breakfast, and they come and they wear gloves. And I was always like, oh, my God. I guess if you're gonna go on that show, you really need to, like, get all your outfits together. Just like, if you're going on the Bachelor or whatever and have this is what I'm gonna wear like, all these days and all these different looks. Because, I mean, you are on a show that everyone's gonna see you.
- [81:49]
Guy Branham
You know that for Drag Race, they famously, like, take out loans to get the outfits that they will need for the show or, like, get sugar stuff. Daddies. But I don't understand why when somebody, like, when a traitor is truly blowing you up and you're also a traitor, why don't you just say to the T. Like, say to the table, oh, yes, he knows I'm a traitor because we are both traitors. Like, I feel like at that point, you have to give them mutually assured destruction or else you're gonna give them the possibility of just sliding through the way that, like, Rob did for a while.
- [82:20]
Heather McDonald
Okay, so, like, if you.
- [82:21]
Guy Branham
You.
- [82:22]
Heather McDonald
Okay, so let's say I'm not a traitor. Yes, I am a faithful. But you're coming after me and you're giving your. Okay, we're on Traders and you're giving your thing and you're saying, heather, I think it's you because you slipped and said, yeah, whatever, in the kitchen. And I'm like, holy. I think they're gonna all vote for me because guy is so persuasive, you know, and everything. So then you. You're saying something that hasn't been done that should be done is I should be like, well, yeah, you know, I'm a trader, because we're fricking traders together. And then he'd be like, no, I'm not. And then I'd be like, so you're telling me that you and I didn't just have our cloaks on?
- [83:05]
Guy Branham
I think you should only do that when you're a trader and another trader is coming after you.
- [83:09]
Heather McDonald
Okay.
- [83:10]
Guy Branham
And just sort of say, like, well, if we're going to do this, let's do this. That could be interesting. Because the question is, like, how do you save yourself the next week? You know?
- [83:17]
Heather McDonald
And I think, no, I'm saying if you're not a traitor. If you're not a traitor and you are, like, they kind of know when, like, their day is due. And it's like, yeah, it would be kind of fun to blow it up.
- [83:29]
Guy Branham
It would be hard to dial it back if you weren't a traitor and you said that you were like, but, yeah, I just think there needs to be. I hate Boston Rob. And watching Boston Rob sort of, like, destroy people and sort of, like, walk through them and have. Have everyone be scared, really sort of frustrated me. And so seeing Rob this season take out Lisa and then Candace in such succession.
- [83:55]
Heather McDonald
You know what? I also want to know, getting back to the outfits, you know, because they, like, when they went to, like, the party and stuff, and, like, all of a sudden, Colton's wearing, like, crown and, like, pearls and stuff. I need to know from someone who's working in Traders, do they meet with a stylist from the Traders that's like, I'm gonna help you put your 22 looks together.
- [84:14]
Guy Branham
I need to understand it together.
- [84:16]
Heather McDonald
Because, like, and then you're also doing.
- [84:18]
Guy Branham
Funches had the most beautiful jacket on.
- [84:21]
Heather McDonald
No, I think they give you stylists through the show because also they don't want you to be jumping on someone else's look. So it's like, we know Alan Cummings has all these different looks, so I think there's like, a head stylist that does Alan. And then it's kind of like, okay, you're working with this person. Person, you know, so let's have some fun looks together. But, like, I'm just thinking, if I had to do 20 looks, would I pick anything from my old closet or would I want to start completely new?
- [84:47]
Guy Branham
Well, and also, they do so much thematic stuff with the tweet and everything that you have to assume that that stuff is, like, coming from their wardrobe department.
- [84:54]
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
- [84:54]
Guy Branham
Though I do believe Dorinda has that much tweed.
- [84:58]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, Dorinda hasn't been in it much, so we'll see how. How much she makes. Makes it through. But I do skim a little bit through, like, the challenges and stuff. But I. I love just watching the breakfast. And then the thing at the end.
- [85:11]
Guy Branham
Like, I just think it's joyous.
- [85:12]
Heather McDonald
And it always makes you really hungry for breakfast. Like, even if we're watching it at, like, 9:30 at night, I'm like, I want some really good toast.
- [85:20]
Guy Branham
Rob.
- [85:20]
Heather McDonald
Some tea.
- [85:21]
Guy Branham
At the banquet, eating boiled eggs in a single bite was truly. Like, it was hot. Like, it was.
- [85:30]
Heather McDonald
Okay, well, let's do. You've been doing a really fun thing on your Instagram, which I love. And how did you think of it?
- [85:38]
Guy Branham
I didn't think of it. So I have been working with this very funny comic named Tori Piskin. She's better at editing videos and stuff than I am. And we've been going out and doing man on the street stuff in West Hollywood. And I was spending so much time explaining some aspect of gay culture to her that she was like, you should do a thing called Only the Old Gays, Remember.
- [85:57]
Heather McDonald
Okay.
- [85:58]
Guy Branham
And then we ended up doing it, and she just sort of, like, pitched some ideas at me. She was like, what's the first sex tape you remember? And I talked about the Rob Lowe thing, and I didn't realize, like, a lot of people were scandalized that I had done that because I didn't realize that one of the women he was with was 16. She was 16 or 17, but, like, I was like, 10 when it happened or whatever. And so to me, it was just like two women having sex with each other. Why would they do that?
- [86:24]
Heather McDonald
Yeah.
- [86:26]
Guy Branham
Yeah. And just sort of like, other Things that are not. Some of them are sort of like queer moments, but they're just sort of like iconic things that matter.
- [86:34]
Heather McDonald
Like, what else?
- [86:35]
Guy Branham
Like, you know, when Celine came For Aretha at VH1 Divas Live, I did one recently.
- [86:41]
Heather McDonald
What did she say? I don't even know that story.
- [86:42]
Guy Branham
Oh, she just, like, they were all singing. You make me feel like a natural woman. And Aretha was like, you know, doing riffs and everything. And everyone was very deferential. And Selene was like, I'm gonna out sing Aretha. And it was like, dazz. And amazing to see them. Like, try not seeing each other. Or. We did one recently that was just like, remember smoking? Like, remember when you were at a bar and you didn't want to talk to anyone? Instead of looking at your phone, you would smoke.
- [87:14]
Heather McDonald
I just saw something like, if you.
- [87:15]
Guy Branham
Do you.
- [87:16]
Heather McDonald
How. If. How old are you? Or do you remember when there was a smoking area at the high school?
- [87:21]
Guy Branham
Yes. I mean, that's. We did not have one, but, like, that.
- [87:24]
Heather McDonald
We had a religious retreat that everyone still does called Kairos in Catholic school, at the Catholic high schools and stuff. And they said since we were seniors, they said, if you want and you're a smoker, you can smoke during this religious retreat.
- [87:41]
Guy Branham
Amazing.
- [87:41]
Heather McDonald
I cannot believe it.
- [87:43]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [87:44]
Heather McDonald
I mean, crazy that, like, kids are smoking.
- [87:48]
Guy Branham
It was like, even when I was in the dorms at Berkeley, there were, like. There were ashtrays out on the balconies.
- [87:58]
Heather McDonald
They're like ashtrays built in cars. Remember?
- [88:00]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [88:01]
Heather McDonald
No, that was airplane. Everybody on airplane where they still have the ashtray. Then you're like, like, why I'm on this plane? Terrifying.
- [88:07]
Guy Branham
The plane technology has not changed in the last 30 years. Bothers me. Why are. Why do the controls look the same now as when I first got on a plane in, like, 1982?
- [88:17]
Heather McDonald
Okay, what's another? Gay, old gay.
- [88:19]
Guy Branham
Just did one about. Okay, this one was great. Luther Vandross, gross. So, like, iconic diva, closeted Patti LaBelle came out for him on Watch what Happens Lives 20 years after he died. But he had En Vogue opening for him.
- [88:36]
Heather McDonald
What do you mean came out for him?
- [88:37]
Guy Branham
Like, she, like, Andy Cohen asked, was Luther gay? And she was like, yes, Luther was gay. He couldn't talk about it, blah, blah, blah. But, like, he would. He had En Vogue opening for him in, like, 1989, and he told them that they weren't allowed to wear any white, red, blue or black or anything that had sequins or that caught the light because his singers needed to be the only thing that were, like, visually arresting on the stage. And so they broke that rule. And he got mad at them, and they were like, luther, we're a girl group. And he was like, I am a girl group. And then he was so mad at them that he said that they could not walk past his dressing room. And then one day they did. They had to go out and take a golf cart around to the front of the venue and enter with the public to perform. And one day they did come by his dressing, and then when they got off stage, he had called the Miami police department because they were trespassing.
- [89:29]
Heather McDonald
Oh, my God. That's amazing.
- [89:32]
Guy Branham
And he was just an iconic diva, and there's a really good documentary about him on hbo. And it's so clearly a person who, because he was gay and black and very fat, like, the industry didn't know how to accept him. But he was so talented. And that turned into this, like, diva instinct to always, you know, in a world that didn't respect him, he demanded the respect that he thought he deserved. And I think that's amazing. And I think it's important to, you know, remember these juicy moments.
- [90:01]
Heather McDonald
I definitely think it's different. I think it's very. I think it's very funny, serious, because it very. Is very specific to your point of view. And like, those stories, I thought I knew every story, but that story wouldn't hit me the way it would hit you, so.
- [90:16]
Guy Branham
But it's like, the thing is, is when we were working together, the things that we bonded over were sor. Of these, like, little nuggets and moments of pop culture history that not everybody remembered but, like, were indelibly, like, on our brains.
- [90:28]
Heather McDonald
Yes.
- [90:29]
Guy Branham
I recently rewatched on YouTube, there's the Donahue of the cast of Steel Magnolias. And it's just like. It's one of the greatest moments that we've ever had in popular culture. Just those four iconic ladies being friends. And like, Donahue is so condescending to Julia Roberts every time he's like, look, you with Shirley MacLaine. Could you believe that? 19 year olds.
- [90:56]
Heather McDonald
It's so great when you with. So when you see, like, old clips of how weird everyone is, like, or towards, like, Brooke Shields.
- [91:02]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [91:03]
Heather McDonald
When they're just like. Or. Or towards Justin Bieber. Oh, like, did you see that clip where. Who's the guy that did karaoke? James Corden.
- [91:14]
Guy Branham
Yeah. Yeah.
- [91:15]
Heather McDonald
And how he's, like, grabbing him and smelling him. What is the deal with James Corden?
- [91:20]
Guy Branham
Like, I don't Know, like, I met Torque on a show a couple of times. They gave me an offer and I was like, I can't.
- [91:29]
Heather McDonald
When he had his late night show.
- [91:30]
Guy Branham
Yes. But he seemed like a very interesting energy because it was very bro y but also like theater Kitty and I could never, like, get a finger on what his deal was.
- [91:41]
Heather McDonald
I just always remember there was. This was a story, so it's alleged.
- [91:45]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [91:47]
Heather McDonald
But that he was on a plane in first class and there was a woman there that had a couple kids also in first class, and she was struggling to get situated and him being the star was like, you know, very annoyed.
- [92:03]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [92:03]
Heather McDonald
That there's like, you know, little kids in first class and everything. And someone was like observing him, like, I know you're the star of this late night show, but, like, have some humanity. Anyway, it was his wife and kids.
- [92:14]
Guy Branham
That's very funny. That's very funny. You know, there's a clear answer to when you have rowdy children in first class. Class of champagne, you know.
- [92:25]
Heather McDonald
For them.
- [92:25]
Guy Branham
And for you put them right to sleep.
- [92:27]
Heather McDonald
Yeah. Anyway, Guy, tell us what else you have going on.
- [92:31]
Guy Branham
So I'm doing my solo show. Be Fruitful at Netflix is a joke fest on.
- [92:35]
Heather McDonald
I think you're doing it the same night as me.
- [92:37]
Guy Branham
May 9th?
- [92:38]
Heather McDonald
Yes.
- [92:39]
Guy Branham
Oh, okay. What are you. What are you doing?
- [92:41]
Heather McDonald
Mine is alive. Juicy Scoop Avalon on May 9th at.
- [92:44]
Guy Branham
7:00Pm oh, that's going to be. Well, oh, no, mine is at 8, but Avalon, that's going to be amazing. I mean, that's going to be.
- [92:52]
Heather McDonald
So if you didn't get tickets to mine and you'd like to go to something, go see guys.
- [92:56]
Guy Branham
The important thing is I also have some dates at Lyric Hyperion in March, so you should come to those and go to Heather's for. For Juicy Scoop.
- [93:03]
Heather McDonald
Well, I think mine. I don't know if there's tickets left or not, but okay.
- [93:07]
Guy Branham
She's sold out. She's doing fine.
- [93:09]
Heather McDonald
I don't know what. I'm just saying it's fun to go to a lot of different shows that week.
- [93:13]
Guy Branham
Yeah.
- [93:14]
Heather McDonald
And. Well, that's exciting. That's what she wanted. But, you know, you really wanted the Edinburgh thing, right?
- [93:20]
Guy Branham
The Edinburgh, yes. And I said it wrong.
- [93:22]
Heather McDonald
How do you say it?
- [93:23]
Guy Branham
Edinburgh.
- [93:25]
Heather McDonald
And what are you getting it.
- [93:27]
Guy Branham
I'm going in August.
- [93:28]
Heather McDonald
Oh, you are?
- [93:29]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [93:30]
Heather McDonald
So it's the whole month. You do it the whole month?
- [93:32]
Guy Branham
You do it the whole month.
- [93:33]
Heather McDonald
Oh, when did you find about that?
- [93:35]
Guy Branham
Like a couple of weeks ago.
- [93:37]
Heather McDonald
Well, congratulations.
- [93:38]
Guy Branham
Thanks.
- [93:40]
Heather McDonald
So you live there for a Month, Yes. And you do it every night under.
- [93:44]
Guy Branham
Horrible conditions, like there's no air conditioning.
- [93:46]
Heather McDonald
It's like a weird little. But are there a bunch of shows at the same time?
- [93:50]
Guy Branham
Yes, there are like 4,000 shows going on across the city, so.
- [93:54]
Heather McDonald
And do you do yours in the same theater every night or you bounce around?
- [93:56]
Guy Branham
Same theater every night, though apparently you, like, go and do other people's shows and that kind of thing and.
- [94:01]
Heather McDonald
Well, how do you do other people's shows if you're doing your own?
- [94:04]
Guy Branham
Because you're only doing it for one hour, you go do it after or before.
- [94:07]
Heather McDonald
And is that. That to just get it to a place that's like, so amazing?
- [94:10]
Guy Branham
I mean, it's already in a good place. It's to, like, really hone it, like to get it really, really sharp and hopefully get some good reviews and buzz so I can bring it back here and like, you know, and so where.
- [94:22]
Heather McDonald
Will you live that month?
- [94:24]
Guy Branham
Well, housing is like, the hardest part, like getting good housing. Like, a lot of people, like, live in the University of Edinburgh dorms and stuff like that. I will probably see if I can spend too much money to get, like an Airbnb that for like, four times what it should be.
- [94:40]
Heather McDonald
You absolutely should.
- [94:41]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [94:42]
Heather McDonald
I mean, this should be. This is like your college all over again.
- [94:47]
Guy Branham
Yes.
- [94:47]
Heather McDonald
This is like you're going back to college in such a cool way.
- [94:51]
Guy Branham
It seems. It seems.
- [94:52]
Heather McDonald
But you're like a star and you have money and you're doing what you love, but you're, like, surrounded by all these people doing the same thing.
- [94:58]
Guy Branham
I think it's so cool and fun at the same time.
- [95:01]
Heather McDonald
I think for you, you, it's going to be like, amaz. So amazing. I hope so. I think it's such a cool thing.
- [95:09]
Guy Branham
Like it. It should be fun. So if you're in Britain or if you're going to be in Edinburgh in August, please come see. Be fruitful.
- [95:16]
Heather McDonald
That is so awesome. And it's Ibranum Guy Branham everywhere.
- [95:22]
Guy Branham
Except it's Branham comedy on TikTok.
- [95:25]
Heather McDonald
Lovely. And I'm@heathermcdonald.net I'll be in at Wise Guys in March in Salt Lake City and then also May 9th too at the Netflix as a joke and join my Patreon and all the good stuff. Love you.
- [95:40]
Guy Branham
Bye.