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FX's English Teacher. All new Thursdays on FX. All episodes now streaming on Hulu. Heather McDonald has got the juicest scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales For real life, Mr. Segment, serial data and Serial Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in. Listen up. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. So much to get into. Let's start breaking news. Kim Kardashian and her mother Kris Jenner are said to be suing for defamation. Ray J. Ray J participated in the TMZ doc about P. Diddy and there is a clip of him saying, well if you told me it was the Kardashians that were being investigated for a racketeering, I'd believe it. But according, according to him, he doesn't believe it about P. Diddy who is going to be sentenced I think in the next in two days from now. Then he went on to in another video say I'm working with the feds on a case of or FBI about the Kardashians and them being sex traffickers. Well, they are said that's it. We are not going to just take this anymore. Ray J. And you know there's a long history with Ray J. Ray J was the co star in the infamous sex tape that made Kim Kardashian a known name. And then of course that's when the series began and everything went on with their success. That was many, many years ago. I think we're coming on almost 20 years ago if we haven't hit it yet. So they've had it. They were a couple for a long time, she and Ray J. She was very good friends with Brandi. Even after they broke up. One of the first times that I went to their house and hung out, Brandi was there with her daughter, and Kim was acting like a little, you know, auntie, so no love is is left. There was also that weird scene with when she's, you know, one of the episodes where Chris was freaking out that Ray J had like a second sex tape footage that he was going to put out. And luckily Kanye saved the day and met with him and got it. And then Ray J said that never happened and it wasn't true. And was that just for TV or the TV show? I mean, Kanye's going off with his weird documentary where he's just screaming at everybody and scream. You see him screaming at Kris Jenner. You see him screaming at Kim. She's like a shell of herself when she's around him. I'm like, why would he ever want this documentary out there? It's. It's all a crazy, crazy situation right now. The world is insane, clearly. But they are not going to just let him spew off this stuff without putting up a fight. Probably my prediction is this won't go to the lengths of actual defamation lawsuit. He will probably retract it, take it down and shut up. But maybe not. Maybe he'll want to get into it. Also, you've probably heard the news by now that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban have separated after 19 years of marriage. They have two daughters. And it always seems like people that are younger give their opinion about it, and they're like, why? Why bother? Like, you're already so old. Why would you bother to get divorced? Well, people live till they're a hundred and you have all the money in the world. And people do get divorced once their kids are of a certain age and out of the house because they realize, wow, it's just going to be the two of us, and I just don't feel the love for you anymore, and I don't want to deal with it. She's an actress. She's had many, many sexy scenes with other co stars in Baby Girl, which was a very odd movie if you've not seen it. I think that for your juicy scoop homework, you just need to see how weird it was where she was the executive and then she was being, like, basically sexually harassed by, like, a little stupid intern. And I kept Waiting for some, like, juicy grift to happen where this was, like, all planned to take down this rich woman. And it wasn't. It was just. I guess. I guess I just gave it away. Who cares? It's been out for a year. Anyway. There were some real sexual scenes where she said I had, you know, to fake so many orgasms or I had so many orgasms during that filming. I think she said it was, you know, unbelievable. So I don't think that really helps, like, your husband's ego at home, but the rumors going around is that he actually has a significant other who is a woman. Because there's always been rumors that he may not be into women. That he does have another woman. That he filed. No, that she filed, but that he doesn't want it. I might be getting some of the details wrong, but they are officially separated. That is in the news. I don't know who initiated the separation, but the rumors are that he might have someone else. And because of that, she just couldn't take it anymore. When you're this wealthy and you're this successful, you spend a lot of time, a lot of time apart. And that starts to become, in my opinion, just a way of life until one person finally goes, what the hell are we doing here? Like, I'm not feeling it anymore. We're not. I'm not willing to work on it. You're not willing to give up a film, or you're not willing to give up a tour, and we're here, our kids are grown. Let's just move the fuck along and be with people that are, like, excited to see us. I mean, can you blame someone? Like, you could have someone just being like, oh, gotta have you. I love you so much. You're the greatest. Or you could have your husband that's like, you know, getting highlights in his hair and dragging you to a country concert that you're just, like, not into and then having. And you have to be there with your frozen face, like, literally and smiling about it. So I'm not. I'm not shocked. I'm not. Oh, they're life goals. They're not. They're just celebrities. Just like the people down the street that might get divorced after 19 years too. It's the same thing. Get over it, people. Meanwhile, JLo has been doing some interviews, and she said it was the best thing that ever happened to me because it changed me. It didn't change me. It didn't change. It helped me grow in a way that I needed to grow, become more self aware. And so she is now saying that actually marrying, but more importantly divorcing Ben Affleck is the best thing for her. As someone who's probably grown, and I think I believe her. You know, she's probably like, at this point, I'm not going to go and be this love sick thing anymore. I'm not going to fall for, you know, guys that love bomb me. Because he did come around and Love Bomber made her go through this whole big wedding thing again. And then was. He was just like, oh, you're annoying. And the whole world was like, of course you are. You're JLo. He. He would rather have Dunkin Donuts and smoke by himself and hang out with his ex wife, Jennifer Garner than you, you gorgeous, perfect thing. So she's just like, yeah, screw it. Fuck that. So now she's like, good, I'm glad it's over. I'm ready to move on. She also did an interview where she said the kind of singing that she's always loved doing was like musical theater. And she loved going to musicals and whatnot. And she sings a little. I want to go there in her interview. And people are like, ah, get. Get over yourself, J. Lo. Well, she's doing Kiss of the Spider Woman. That has gotten great reviews. It looks to be a beautifully shot film that she is doing. And that is the story. It's a famous story. It's been done. This is a remake of it. It's a musical and it's about two men in prison. And in order to get through that time together, one tells the story of like this beautiful musical that he saw. And so then it's flashback and it's. She is the lead in it. And so, I mean, she is a great performer. She's great to look at. We'll see what happens. But when I think about what she went through with Ben and doing those awful documentaries, this Is Me. And then the other one that was like a musical about her. Her songs where she's dancing around with a stick or an umbrella or whatever and Jane Fonda's in it, all of that. And then talking about what her favorite thing to buy at the bodega was. All of that was just unfortunate for her and her brand. And now she's just like, let me just do my art. Let me just sing and dance the way I want act and goodbye, Ben Affleck. Okay? Also, Dave Brohl and his wife. Remember that was a big scandal about a year ago, that they were another couple. He was the nicest rock and rolling dad in Studio City. Nicest guy in the world with his face, you know, making. Probably participating in the chili cook off at his, one of his three daughters schools or whatever. Had a pretty wife, was overly flirty with a girl that was a writer's assistant on our show, which I always thought was highly suspect. Anyway, nicest guy in the world got another woman pregnant, not his wife, and had a child. And he said, I want to make this work. And we were all like, what's going to happen? Well, they're still together, he and the wife of 20 something years. And he was just, he and his wife were just awarded something by our LA mayor for their charity work. So I'll never feel the same about him. But I never was a fan because I always thought it was creepy how he acted like he was the nicest rock and roll dad in the world. So not surprised by that one. But you know what, maybe she doesn't care. Maybe she's like, maybe she's like, you know what? I'd love to just hang out with your little baby. Like my kids are grown. Fine, let's do. You can co parent, let me be there, let me just hang out with the baby. I don't really care who knows what, how she's getting through it. But he is, he does accept that this is his child and he's doing the right thing. So we'll give him that. Britney, our girl Britney from the Vanderpump rules and the Valley, she went on Special Forces. And to remind you guys, Britney is married to Jax, one of the most I can say polarizing male reality stars there are. He's been on reality TV for almost 20 years. He is not coming back to the Valley. She is. They share a four year old son together. And really in the last season of the Valley we saw them break up and she revealed how awful he spoke to her when they were together and body shaming her and being very verbally abusive. So she goes to do Special Forces. This is one of those shows that I have said Dr. Drew was on it. Unfortunately, when Dr. Drew was on it, he got terribly sick the first day they were in Jordan and he had to be like rushed to the hospital so he couldn't continue on. It is my understanding that everybody gets the same chunk of money, which I've heard different things from. A hundred thousand at that. It's a hundred thousand and so that's called favored nations. Everyone gets a hundred thousand no matter if you leave the first day or the second to the last day. And then I'm Guessing you would get a big chunk of extra money if you make it to the end. I need to find out, because I think that makes a big difference. So they start there. It's like they're in the Special Forces is what they call, I believe, like, Navy seals, but in Britain. So the guys are, you know, mean and yelling but with English accents, which doesn't make it any more fun to be yelled at by a man. It's actually pretty disturbing to see a guy, like, get into Teresa Giudice's face or Britney's and just scream at her. I know that's how they do it in the Army. I just think in 2025, it's just. It's just kind of weird to watch. But it's. Obviously, it's very physical more than anything. They try to make it that it's mental, too. But if you are not physically fit, if you are not athletic, if you are older than most of the people, it's going to be harder to do all of these challenges of, like, walking up a hill and carrying things. And, you know, then there's scary stuff where it's like, okay, you're gonna jump out of this helicopter, but you're. You're scaling down a rope. Can you do it? And that's. Oh, that's so scary. That's. And Brittany was the last to do that, and she's almost, like, crying. And she said an interview, since I'm very scared of hats. I never liked hats. Like, if I come out on a balcony, I'm like, my back is up against the wall. I don't want to see it. And then, of course, some fan of Vanderpump. So I don't know who put this together. Put together all the times that she's been on Vanderpump Rules, walking out into a balcony and be like, I'm king of the world. I'm getting married. Hi. Look at us. We're up here. And so they're like, I don't really think you're scared of heights. Whatever. Then other person people said, that can change after you give birth. And there is a weird thing that happens, and I didn't. I don't know if it's postpartum or what, but where. When, like, after I had Drake, I would have, like, these weird visions. Like, what if I just went on the balcony and threw him off? Like, and then I'd be like, I don't even want to hold him on the balcony because it's such a weird feeling. So I don't Know if now you can develop, like, fear of heights later in life, I guess. But then they show her. Let. Then they show her after the baby. Let's. Let's go on the highest roller coaster, y'. All. So who knows? Who cares? Look, it's embarrassing because she decided to. To leave after going up. Walking up a hill. She just said, I'm done. He's like, you're quitting? And she said, yeah, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. And you know what kills me is that Jack said, you're not going to last one day. And I did not last one day. And then other people were like, well, she just took her $100,000 and. And went. And I'm like, that would be so tempting. Can we just talk about that? Like, you're getting a hundred thousand whether you stay 12 days or one. And people are screaming you. And then they say to Teresa Giudice, your job is to clean the toilet. And I'm, you know, respecting Teresa in this thing. Of course Teresa is going to do great. She's got her daughter Gia there. But Teresa, you know, has raised four kids, went to prison, has been with two men, two husbands that she caters to, even though she's, like, seen as a princess, I don't really think she is. I think she's, like a Gen X mom that has done everything. And her thing is she has to, like, clean the shitty toilet. And so she's just like, hey, everybody, if you. If you go number two, let me know right away. So I'd rather, like, clean up a solid log before. Before it disinterates. I'm like. And then the other guy, Justice Smollett's, like, if they ask me, he's the one that lied about, you know, being kidnapped in Chicago. He's like, if they ask me to clean the toilets, I'm out. So I'm rooting for Teresa. I hope she gets her extra 250 or whatever she walks away with if she wins because she gleefully took on the toilet shit cleaning job. And I'm like, wow, I. I guess you maybe have some debts to pay or something, and you need that money, but good for her. No, I don't. I don't think this is the show for me. I'd much prefer Traders or, you know, Hollywood game shows or Mask singer or even Dancing with the Stars, which physically is a lot, but that I think I could do, so who cares, Brittany, take that money and relax, okay? Also, speaking of the trauma in the Valley, Vanderpump world. It is now very clear. Sheena and Lala, whose daughters are Summer, Moon and Ocean, they're months apart and best little girlies, okay, they live next to very close to each other in the Valley, but they also physically live next door to each other in their vacation homes in Palm Springs. And they just really have not been talking, except when they talk about each other on their podcasts, which is what I've always said, is the world we live in now. I heard what you said about me on your podcast versus I heard what you said about me at that luncheon last week. What, the girl? No, it's on the podcast or it's on the reality show or it's in the confessional or whatever. That's the world we live in. So Sheena brought it up first and said, Lala, in her opinion, and I'm paraphrasing, didn't really post about the care package that she got. I got one, too. So it was the book, which I think I had already gotten one because I was going to interview her and I wanted to, like, read it before I interviewed her. And there were a few other fun things that came in there. And I got it, and I put on stories. Look, I got this. And I guess maybe Lala being a mom and her two kids didn't do that. And instead of thinking, oh, she probably, you know, instead of Sheena being like, whatever, or maybe Lala realized she had already posted once about it, so I'm not going to. It kind of just stuck in her head, and she mentioned it publicly, like in an interview or in a podcast. She didn't post it. Well, then Lala finally spoke about it and was like, I don't know what you want from me. It never seems to be enough. I posted when you made. When you did this, and I posted about this on the book. So she felt she went back into her archives and saw that she, in fact, did post about the book. Other people are speculating. Did Lala not post about it enough? Because Sheena made the best New York Times bestseller list, and Lala did it. In hearing Lala speak about it, I don't really think that's true. I think that there is just a pettiness and a miscommunication, and I think there's a lot to be a little weird and petty about. You know, you guys are raising your daughters and you have this strong friendship. However, Sheena is the reason that Vanderpump started and Vanderpump has now ended for Sheena. The Valley in which she lives where her friend that she met at a pool party, Janet is the star of we all thought Sheena would be back on the Valley. She, according to every all the reports is not filming the Valley this year, but Lala is. So I think it's really hard to be super mature about it when it's a job and your really good friend is doing a similar thing. But and one did get make the New York Times bestseller list. The other one did it a couple years ago and doesn't care. But now this one is making a new paycheck on a top reality show while this one is saying I don't care, I'm not either. And then we just each talk about each other on the podcast and then Heather recaps it on Juicy Scoop. Maybe it's a win win for all of us. I. I don't know. But my advice would be to someone just pick up the phone and go, let's talk. Or let's not and hope that this leads to us continuing doing what we're doing but to the point where we don't hurt each other. I don't know. Speaking of best buddies that aren't best buddies anymore, according to DJ Hungry Human, a great girl that I follow on TikTok, she's from Boston and she was following the whole Karen Reid thing. Karen Reed and Turtle Boy are no longer, as my dad would say, asshole buddies. So in the Karen Reed murder trial, this guy Turtle Boy has a huge YouTube and he's a Boston native and he really is the one that cracked open all the inconsistencies and got everybody questioning about this case to the point that I believe she is free today. I think without him we people would not have been aware of what was happening. So anyway, they are no longer friends, much like Sheena and Lala. Turtle Boy, according to what I'm surmising, maybe feels like Karen hasn't thanked him enough. Maybe she hasn't done enough one on one type interviews with him. Maybe she's doing those interviews with other people. And is he going to be part of the documentary the next movie? Where's his bag? Did he really just do all of this for the goodness of his heart? Then someone would argue, well, no one knew who you were, Turtle Boy before you. You cracked open the Karen Reed case. So didn't we both win? That's the thing. Lala, Sheena, Karen and Turtle Boy. Aren't we all just winning? Is, is it, is it okay? Or did somebody not do enough for the other? Or we did. We all get a lot out of this. These now possibly defunct friendships. You tell me. Also this I loved. This came from Tom Sandoval. Posted he's like hanging shirtless after one of his karaoke band shows. And you know, he's got a banging body. And he posted. I was so the photos, him hanging. I was told that if I didn't take this video down, I would be broken up with because some girl touched my butt and was called a narcissist for it. That's why it was deleted earlier. So he has this girlfriend named Victoria and clearly he posted this photo. She had a freak out because in the photo or something, maybe she was there, she saw a girl touch his butt and he finally's like, fine, I'll delete it. And then he posted why he deleted it because he was like, I'm not a narcissist. I just did a show and some girl touched my butt. That like, God, Victoria, good. Where did you get it? So then Victoria wrote, it's so empowering to say this isn't serving me and walk away in peace. And then, oh, shit. I don't know who put the whole thing together, but someone then wrote, y' all will never know how much drama we are missing by not seeing these two crazy kids on the Valley. I agree. I agree. If we would have asked Tom Sandoval to come back to the Valley, we could have seen these shows happen. We could have seen him go on American Idol and not be asked back. We could have seen him now dealing with a very jealous girlfriend. When he had Ariana, she wasn't jealous at all. Hence why he was able to fuck her best friend for seven months and have her not care. She was just like, I'm just happy to have the bed by myself and watch Love Island. I mean, so yeah, I. And. And who knows how much longer these concerts will go on, but I'm guessing they are already back together. When it comes to makeup, oftentimes we complain that, like, ugh, I don't want that makeupy look. I. It doesn't feel. It feels heavy. I don't feel natural. But I do want some coverage. And that's why I love Jones Road Beauty. Jones Road Beauty is a minimalist makeup brand founded by makeup art artist Bobbi Brown that creates versatile and easy to use products that simplify your routine. 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You're ready to take to the streets with picket signs up and down Newport and near pch. You're ready to, to burst into the three story Restoration Hardware restaurant that everyone goes to and scream for justice for Katie. And now two episodes without her. We're like, who? What? Okay, yeah, move. Move the fuck along, everybody. Anyway, the war between Tamara and Gretchen goes on. They go to do some, you know, one a classic let's try to do self defense. And Shannon is getting kooky again. I don't know what I'm doing, you know, so let's see her look awkward and weird as she does it. And then Gretchen with her perfect body shows up with a great added long tail. Like it kind of look like Halloween costume. She liked Laura Croft, Tomb Raider. And it's her, her thing to do it. They do a fake, another fake scene which is becoming a real. Like basically Housewives is becoming like girls behaving badly of, you know, 2006. And like pranks are happening now. And so they drive up and they're like, hey girls, we're gonna drive up and the window is, you know, rolled down and a scary guy comes in and he's like, give me your money. And they're like. And they're screaming to the female driver of the suv, why wouldn't you just roll up the window? Or the minute you see the guy, you're going to try to roll up the window. They didn't roll up the window. Oh, God, whatever. So it was all a joke and they don't like that. But that was Gretchen's idea to say, you should be physically fit to be able to fight off creeps that come up to you in parking lots in Newport. So they go in and after that the shit goes down, where Tamara says, so I heard that, you know, you were once again talking some shit about me, Gretchen. And they get into it and Gretchen goes, oh, you don't all the shit I could be saying that I didn't say, you don't want to know. And then Gretchen's like, what are you talking about? All you do is talk shit about me for 12 years. And you had your vagina out all over the Internet with a vibrator. And it's like. And then Heather's just like eating a sandwich and it's just like oh, God. Good. How quickly can I leave this shoot and get the bike off my back and drive back to my, you know, penthouse in the sky in Century City? So then, so basically, the fight goes on. She's like, how dare you bring up this thing that I did in a recording studio. She is vehemently denying that she ever did anything sexual with this former boy band member whose name they bleep out. But you can find out who it is if you two seconds on the Internet and he is with a woman he's been with a long time, and they are friends with Tamara. So they're like, I didn't believe it then, I don't believe it now, and I don't care. And Gretchen's like, well, I'm just saying it's, like, out there and you know it exists. So the. Just the, like, the. The two. The. Between them. Whose side are you on? What is happening? That's it. There was a lot with their daughters. There was a scene with Jen and her daughter that was kind of sweet and interesting how the daughter's like, I want you to be happy, but it's really weird that you're getting married and kind of talking about the upcoming nuptials. And the way Jen described wanting to be married again was kind of beautiful and I think very relatable to women her age. We also saw Tamara's daughter pursue going into a music school in la, so we'll see if that happens. And I really can't remember what else happened. Wasn't that memorable, I guess. Anyway. Oh, Someone said Archie should be a housewife. And what would if our Archie's like the. That's Shannon's dog. And it was, what should Archie's tagline be? And so I thought of it. Okay, this is. Here it goes. I'm actually a real. But all you'll hear me do is bark. Get it? I think that's pretty good. Okay. Anyway, this fight that's been going on for 17 years between Gretchen and Tamara reminded me of this site that I follow called Dirty Historian on Instagram. And it's about the rivalry between Bette Davis and Joan Crawford. And it went on. You know, there was a series on FX about it. But just reading the little synopsis on here of just what they put each other through. And while they were filming Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? Joan Crawford wrote the director and said, what are you going to do about Bette Davis's bo? Her body odor is so distracting. I don't know if I can continue to do these scenes. And Then she played a cripple person. Joan. Joan Crawford and Bette Davis had to, like, drag her around. And supposedly on those days, she would put, like, weights in her clothes and. And mess up the scenes so that Betty had to keep dragging her around so it'd be heavier and harder. And I'm like, this is what this is, except it's on reality TV and it's taking place by the sea in the OC Also, Cardi B and Nicki Minaj, they go at each other in the hip hop world like they're. They're writing mean things on tweets to each other. Where Cardi B is like, why are you going after me, Nikki? Like, I was. I was just a mere child when you started your career. Why don't you. You shouldn't be comparing yourself to me. You should be comparing yourself to people that's your age that's been doing it as long as you. And why is your, you know, why was your husband involved in hanging out with younger people? There's a whole story there I don't even want to say about Nicki Minaj's husband that is very disturbing. And so she was bringing that up and Nikki was saying nasty stuff to her. I don't know. But Cardi B is going to win in this one. Okay, let's get into Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Okay. Let's talk about Lisa Barlow. Yeah, I had a beautiful luncheon. And you know what I did before I went to Michael's, and I got some easels and I got some boards that Baby Gorgeous used for his last science project. And I printed out some things to just prove that my. All my lawsuits are just that they're just lawsuits. Okay? I didn't do anything criminal. I'm not a bad person. I have a life that's especially exceptional. Better than these women. Clearly. I'm very important to God and I love myself, and I'm not going to be apologetic about it one more moment. I was doing things while you guys were camping. I was hanging out with Ben Affleck and Ander Kendrick and another movie star. I guess she's at these premieres because Vida is the alcohol that I'm assume she's giving for free for the sponsorship and to be seen. She was also setting up a event in with Steve. You know, Steve Carell is going to sit right here in this booth, make sure that he has his food on time and that people aren't walking up to him constantly. So I think she. Yeah, it's just that Is part of her job is to host these events, and they are Hollywood related events because she too, is a famous Hollywood person just on a reality show and has Vita Tequila. Okay? So she has all these lawsuits and she invites them over for this luncheon and she has it all displayed. And people are like, enough with, like these, you know, we. We saw Gertie do it with an iPad and with an iPhone and a screen in which she shared the text messages between she and Julia. Unreal. Housewives of Miami about how she was invited to go on the cruise. And then Julia did not invite her to dinner. And proving her case that I, Gertie, I'm not a bad person. I'm just a great friend and she's the shitty friend. And she blew me off and screwed me over. We also saw that Kenya did it on Real Housewives of Atlanta when she was like, come to the opening of my hair spa. And I. But before we do that, I'm going to show you that this other girl that I don't like is a horrible person and did some pornographic stuff back in the day. And here's the photos of her. And let me show you. Just so you know, I'm a good person and she's an awful person. Now we have Lisa Barlow. Go. Here are all the lawsuits we went through. We. We printed it out. This one was dismissed, and this one was dismissed. And people are like, well, just because you said it was dismissed doesn't really matter. This is the deal, people. She's like, holy shit, they're coming after me and they're coming after me hard, and they're not getting the facts right. And here I have one opportunity to tell all of the Bravo world in an episode. My side of the story. That's why Gertie did it. That's why Kenya did it. That's why Lisa Barlow did it. And being sued does not mean that you are necessarily the in, raw, in the wrong. It's true. Anyone can sue you. You need to defend yourself. There's always more to it. And people always decide in the. In public court, public opinion. Like the minute the person is being seen arrested, they're guilty, they're the bad person. You file the lawsuit first. Oh, there must be some validity to it. Sometimes there isn't. Sometimes there isn't. Sometimes it's a money grab. Sometimes it can be dismissed. Sometimes it's not valid. So that's what she wanted to display. Then it gets into Whitney Rose, who is like, I know my business did suck. We are broke. It didn't work out. Why are you saying this, Lisa Barlow? Why do you care? What does it matter? Justin and I have spent all of our money. We have nothing to show it. Show for it. But no, you keep bringing it up. Well, I'm just saying if people on TikTok are saying that you're like running an MLM and you didn't do a and you owe them money, that's. That's just TikTok people. Well, you know, essentially, Lisa Barlow could just be the same thing. It's just someone instead of going on TikTok, they filed a lawsuit with an attorney. Or maybe not. You can also file lawsuits by yourself. But what gets into it is one of these particular lawsuits of Lisa Barlow involves a man that was paying her credit card. And then her friend, who I don't know if she on the show or not, is like, well, they have a business together, so it's not unheard of to have a business credit card together. And she's like, oh, my God, I did not sleep with anyone for Jazz tickets or. And I did not sleep with anyone to pay off my amex. I could afford a lot of things. So that it was a lot of screaming. A lot of people couldn't take the screaming. Meanwhile, Bronwyn, her life is pretty depressing right now. She has a father who has Alzheimer's. She has a mother who moved in with her along with. Now she's got her daughter staying there with the daughter's boyfriend. And Todd is like, okay. And she's like, I just want to. I want to thank you, Todd. I want to thank you for doing everything that you did for me. Because right now it's not easy with Lisa. And the reason Lisa and Bronwyn hate each other is they always say instead of the reunion, they say in New York, and instead of the being on the show or the cast, they say this friend group just to not like, break the fourth wall. And she was presented with a four million dollar necklace on a vacation by Todd and then went on a podcast and said they did. In fact, she did not deny that they don't have it. He said, oh, you bought a five million dollar necklace. She didn't clarify that it was four. And she didn't clarify, like, actually we didn't go through with the sale. Well, Lisa Barlow went after her because I believe Lisa Barlow brought her on the show. They used to be friends and she wasn't having it. And she was like, I talked to Emma the jeweler. You never bought the necklace. You never bought the Earrings. You never bought the bracelet. You. You know, and she's like, really? Really? Okay, okay, okay, Lisa, that's the way you're gonna be. We're gonna talk about your lawsuits. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna talk about your lawsuits. Now there's. Bronwyn has something in her past that is about. It's sealed, and it's. It's fraud, and it's something with checks. I don't even know. A former ex husband is coming out of the work woodwork. It is so much stuff about dragging people's past and their life. I just. I. I can't imagine the anxiety that all these women are walking around with and how, like, it's. It's pretty entertaining for us to watch, but, wow. Like, this is tough. And so Todd's sitting there. He's like, I'll have an iced tea. And, you know, she's like, look, we're having an Italian dinner. I'm wearing Dolce and Gabbana, and you're having an iced tea. And so then later on, the mother who's now husband is suffering with Alzheimer's. She's like, well, it's a good thing that you have Todd. That's why you have money, is because you have Todd. But you have to also realize it's good that you're seeing me go through this with your father, because this will be you in a few years. And she's like, mom. Because she's dating a much older guy that, according to Lisa Barlow, has gout. So that's where we are with everything. Not a lot happening with Meredith and Heather Gay, but let's get through. I want to go through their taglines because I actually think they're pretty good. For Lisa Barlow's. It's. I don't go low. I go the distance. Great. Classic line from last season when she's, again, someone's accusing me of something I didn't do. I want a full cyber investigation, and we're gonna go the distance on this one, so I appreciate that. Mary, who is the former church leader, said, I'm just here to eat, drink, and be merry, because her name's Mary. Probably the least exciting of them all, but at least she's not bringing up her sons, you know, in and out of rehab. That wouldn't be fun for a tagline. Angie, whose whole life is being Greek. I'm Greek. And the rest are just a tragedy kind of good. I think the shorter, the better, so I think that's pretty good. Bronwyn. If my closet had skeletons, at least they'd be well dressed. Pretty good. She wears these crazy outfits, spends a lot of money on clothes. But I have to say her interior design is shocking now. It's bright, it's colored. She has. She had two colored back couches back to back. It was a very odd layout in the living room and just not my style at all. But maybe fun for someone else. And then Meredith is. While you drop lies, I'm dropping the beat. Because she's a dj. She's a DJ now. Even though last year she was very upset because she has a hearing disability and she didn't like that. I can't even remember someone made fun of her hearing. But it's good to know that that doesn't affect you as a 55 year old DJ. And I say, go make your money, girl. Go. Go get it. Okay. They also said, according to Reality Blurb, that Meredith Marks gives a tour over 70,000 per month home rental. Meredith, my love, what the fuck are you doing? These shows do not pay enough. The money from your Caviar and your DJ gigs do not pay enough to waste $70,000 a month on rent. For what? Who are you proving this to? You know who's smart? Gina of the O.C. she's like, give me my lipress on nails and my TEMU jacket and let me go dance around with a smile on my face and not be in debt and actually own a property. I'm so sick of people saying like, we. We come here for a luxury. No, you come there for. For entertaining shows. And you know who makes it entertaining? The producers. And the women show up and be authentic, whether they're really rich or they're not. What's worse is the fake rich. And it's worse off. Honestly, it's more stressful for us to see you waste money when we've been watching these shows for 20 years. And we know what happens when you're spending more than you should to appear to look rich. When you're making, you know, maybe 100,000 a year on this show and you're spending thousand dollars a day on Glam and $70,000 a month on rent. What the hell are you thinking? Watch a makeup tutorial and get a smaller place. Okay? Oh, I forgot. Whitney's is here. Whitney, Roses is here. Roses are redheads. Violets are blue. Don't come for me or I'll come for you. That is awful, Whitney. That is so unoriginal and so lame. And you're already back being blonde so the whole redhead thing just doesn't do it. And then Heather Gaze was, my nest is almost empty and this bird is ready to soar. I think that's pretty good. It's what she talked about. We talked about it last week. I liked that she was honest about being excited that her youngest was going off to college. So good for her. Lola Young, who I love this singer. She has that very famous song she really blew up on TikTok, which, you know, was amazing for her. Very talented singer. She is going away for a while and canceling everything because she collapsed on stage in New York City and you could see her. Some people say she might have said, I feel like I'm fainting. I don't know. But she had the mic and she like. And then stepped back. And lucky for her, she kind of managed to land on her butt before landing on her head. When I fainted, I like, went straight back like a timber and hit the back of my head. And in reading the comments, people are like, when you feel faint, you sit down. And I'm like, let me just speak from experience. You're performing, you don't know what's happening because you're not used to fainting and you think it's just a weird, like, dizzy thing. And guess what? There isn't a chair there. You're performing. There is. If you felt that way and you were in your bathroom in your kitchen, you would, like, grab something and sit down or lay down. But you're performing. That's why there's videos of people on camera, because everything's filmed. And when you're performing, whether you're a news reporter or a standard comedian or a singer, you hope that it's not going to lead to you actually fainting. And that's why it gets caught on camera. But I hope that she is okay. Speaking of which, I am going to be performing in Vegas. As you guys know, November 14th. We are really very close now to being sold out. I don't want you to miss out. I know they just gave the lineup of the three days at Bravo Con, so you're probably planning out your time. And my show is at 10pm on Friday night. So you can do your stuff. If you want to go to the convention, that's all in the afternoon, come back to your hotel, get cute, maybe get a small bite and come to the show and have a blast. Because this is. This is not going to be tame like what goes on at Bravo Con. This is the real shit, and it's going to be fudgeing. Funny and we are not going to hold back. And Brandy, Julie, special guests. And I love this poster because it's me and all these guys on the billboard of aces comedy. And my friend Louella Chavez, who is a juicy scooper who lives in Vegas, took a photo of it for me and I really appreciate that. So you go to heathermcdon.net and that's also where you join my Patreon. And that is where I'm really going to get into these next few subjects that I'm going to talk about now. But the real juice that I know is going to be on Friday's Patreon. Limu Emu and Doug Here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug. Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us. Cut the camera. They see us. 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Springsteen Deliver Me from Nowhere Only in theaters October 24th. Get your tickets now. So you may or may not have heard that there is a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia called the Riyadh Comedy Festival. And it's been put on by this by the Saudi Arabian government and princes to bring entertainment like they have, you know, they've had singers, they've had boxing, they had live golf, which is all the top golfers were going to play in their tournament to bring eyes and entertainment to this part of the world. That is like the goal. But many people have a problem with those who participate in going over there in performing and as they, as the kids would say, grabbing their bag. And so people have been asking me how do I feel about it? You Know, it's many of the top comedians, there's so many of them, and they are, many of them are getting criticized more so than others based on how they've presented themselves in the last 20 years of their career. Have they been outspoken about political stuff? Have they, you know, been righteous and pointing their fingers at other people and then yet they go do this. Does that make them hypocritical? Should they be held to a higher standard than a Beyonce that might perform or something like that? So I want to talk more freely about my feelings and that's going to be on Patreon as well. But I. So why don't you, you can kind of look at it and then kind of see what would you do if you were offered this kind of money? The money is apparently, Shane Gillis said, I was offered. I turn it down. They doubled it. I turned it down. The only person that we really know, according to what he said, is Tim Dillon. He said he was offered 300,000. He said, I want five. They said, here's three. Okay, 375. He accepted. But then they went through his archives of podcasts and found that he mocked their, their situation over there and that is not allowed. And also when they go do their stand up sets, they have to adhere to a big long list of quote unquote censorship. They can't talk about many different subjects. So for other comedians that might be easier to do for ones that, that's the bulk of their act, you kind of wonder, okay, did they just get a team of writers together to write all jokes about the wife and kids, or did they go to their archives? Or do they just not care? Maybe if they didn't accept this first invitation, if this goes on for 20 years, they won't be asked in the future. Are the people that are criticizing it bitter because they weren't asked? It's, it's interesting. And as a standup comedian, I, I have my thoughts, so let me hear yours. Also crazy. I also want to get into some crazy conspiracy theories. This one is just interesting. There was a movie called Snake Eyes that came out. I first saw this like two weeks ago and now a lot of people have picked it up. Snake Eyes is a movie starring Nicholas Cage. It came out, I believe, about 25 years ago. And it is about. These are just some of the weird similarities. It's about a politician with a blonde wife who gets shot in the neck. That man is named Charlie Kirkland. It takes place in the Trump Hotel in Atlantic City. And then there's like 20, 20 other really weird. Oh, also there's Tyler the Executioner is the person who did it. It's weird. It's weird. Now also, I talked about the weird coincidence of the Keenan and Cal comedy video from Comedy Central, which could, must have been done at least 10, if not more years ago, where he's this, this funny episode where a detective comes in and, and is yelling at a rapper saying, we know you killed this other rapper. And he's like, how do you know that? And then they play his music and he basically says exactly how he did it. And that's the joke of it that a rapper would tell on himself through his music. And then. And that is what's happening with Celeste and David, the young girl whose body was found in David, the singer's car, who wrote a song called Homicide, Romantic Homicide, you know. And what are his excuses going to be? There's more with it. He still has not been arrested. There's video of them going to his family's farm in Texas just days after her body was found. I don't know what that was about. They also, TMZ also interviewed this young boy and his mom and he was her boyfriend before David. Now she was only 15, so maybe they were hanging out when they were 13. And you know, he is sharing, you know, he's a young kid, so he's not the most articulate thing. And he's sharing about how she really had a hard life at home, she didn't get along with her parents and saying all this and people like, what's the point of this interview? And I just think everybody's just trying to find out more. But I think it's just so strange the way the uni, the universe is working, that it's like, what is real, what's not? Are we just been around so long that you just put enough stuff out there and then somehow it becomes a reality 20 years later and it's just a huge coincidence or is it something more? So tell me what you think. We're going to talk about that on Patreon as well. Karen Huger, Real Housewives of Potomac is coming back and they show her, they teased it in a trailer, getting released from prison. One of my favorite scenes of all the housewife scenes is when Teresa comes home from her one year prison early in the morning and Jo, her now ex husband is like in a wife beater. Well, sorry, they used to call it that. A white tank top with no sleeves to keep it. I don't care. And, and he's like how you doing? And she's so emotional and she cries. And then all the girls come and I think about it, I still get chills. Karen, you know, it's just becoming a rite of passage of like a housewife. You got it. You gotta film when they come home from prison. You just have to. And Jen Shaw, her time keeps getting shortened and. But Annie was recently asked by a fan, what about. When do you want to. What about Jen Shaw? And he's like, I don't ever want to see her again or something. I don't want to see her on our televisions. Oh, yeah, right. Like when she is coming out in like less than a year, you're not going to try to film that or offer her something. I would be shocked. I would be shocked. Books coming out of our housewives. Doritos. Her book is called Unburdened. Don't love the title, Dorit. I don't. But she's wearing like a fashionista kind of jacket that's too big and her waist looks tiny and her face looks very kind of. It's hard to even see that it's her, but you can tell it's her. And I just think the word unburdened is just not a good word because it just reminds me too much of. And if we're unburdened by our burdens, then we're unburdened by. I don't know, I just don't think it's a great title. I. People should have. People thought something about too chic. Could have been better, whatever. And then Lisa Rinna's is you better believe I'm gonna talk about it is her title and the COVID is, you know, kind of her looking cute and like a weird outfit. It's a lot going on in the COVID but I think it's kind of fun and I think it's. It's. Hopefully she saved some juice for the book. Just like Sheena. She has a podcast too, with her husband. She's done interviews. I hope she was smart enough to save some real behind the scenes juice. You know, she had a whole life before housewives that she can speak on with Days, Our Lives, tv, movies, Hollywood. I hope she's going to talk about it all. You better believe I'm going to talk about it. So, Lisa, I'm excited for you and I hope that you come back on Juicy Scoop so we can talk about it. Oh, God. This is back, you guys, seeking sister wives. This couple, you remember them? They. I. I will be watching this. They are on Their next. This is the girl. It's like she's kind of got like a weird mouth and she's like, we're so excited we have a new sister wife that's coming. They got divorced, she and her husband so that he could bring on a foreign sister wife. So it was like a double whammy. It's like sister wives meets 90 day fiance. And that chick bailed. She was just like. Actually, even after they had sex, she's like, I don't want to be part of this weird family. I'd rather live in a third world country than be stuck in Colorado with the two of you weirdos. So then they went for another one and that didn't work out. And now this is like their fifth season and they got this girl from Brazil and they've since had another child, the couple. And so then she's like, hi. She's like, I'm so excited to be my sister wife. And then the sister wife comes and the. She grabs the baby and the baby's like, you know, like one and is like cuddling the new sister wife to be. And she's like, I'm crying because I'm sad, but I'm happy that the baby is taken to her so much because she's my sister. It is just the strangest. And I know TLC doesn't pay a lot, but I hope it's all worth it. Weirdos. Okay. Bad bunny is doing the Super Bowl. So people were like, oh, we were hoping it was Taylor. Well, it's not. Okay. It's not. Listen, Taylor is enjoying her life. She is engaged. And then she went to Selena Gomez's wedding. They got married, looked very beautiful. I love the photos that they're each sharing. Selena Gomez and. And then there was like an article of two stars from when Selena was on Waverly Place that, you know, we're talking to, talking to Taylor and they're like, oh my God. She just. She just came in the room and was just, you know, so normal and so lovely. What did you expect? Did you expect her not to be a normal person? No, she's thrilled. Her friend is getting married. She doesn't have to perform. There's nothing better than being a guest at a wedding and having a good fucking time. That's what she wants to do. She wants to go to the football games, not perform. She wants to go to the weddings and sit back and have fun until it's time to have her wedding. People have asked me, Heather, what is your prediction for Taylor Swift's Wedding dress and I think it will be very lacy and fitted at the waist. Extremely traditional and classic. Like the most gorgeous of like lace. I don't see like any cleavage or anything like that. Having something really unique. And then she will have like a satin cool dress for the dinner and then she'll have like a short one for the dancing. But I think for the actual like getting married she's going to want to look just like stunning and timeless. And so I don't see any kind of trends where it's like the see through bodice or you know, you know a big slit up the leg. I don't not that those are great. I would go for that if I was getting married today. I'm just saying that's my prediction. We'll see. As a Heather, many people have said Heather. How do you feel about the name? The fact that your name is completely not popular anymore? Well I saw this many years ago when I joked about while why I was concerned that one day Heather would turn into our Gladys which was my grandmother's name and that they'll just be one day A nursing home filmed with Heather filled with Heathers and it will happen. And I've tried to encourage my juicy scoopers who are pregnant with girls to name them Heather to make it cool again. I tried to start a charity, a nonprofit called Heathers for Heathers. Keeping Heather's hot for generations to come and giving gifts to women who named their daughter Heather. I don't know why you're not choosing it. It's classic. Your daughter will be the only Heather in the kindergarten. I don't know why this doesn't happen but they did a, a a story on it and these top 80 baby girl names are now totally unpopular. So in 1980 the number one name was Jessica. It is now number 574. Jennifer was two. Makes a lot of sense. I knew a lot of Jennifers. Jennifer Aniston, Jennifer Garner, Jennifer Lopez. There's a lot of Jennifers. Amanda was number three. It's now 496. Ashley number four. I feel like Ashley is a little bit younger than my group. Well I guess that would be for the 80s since I was born in 70. Okay, Stephanie a lot of Stephanie's now that next is Melissa number seven, Nicole eight. So Heather was number 10 in the 80s. I think it really peaked more like 1975 is when it peaked. So in the 80s it was already like coming a little bit off the excitement. It is now at 9:77. Okay. I'm telling you and also you could. You could do something fun with it. How about Heatherina? How about Heatherin? How about Heather Lee? You can make it your own. Okay? And then Tiffany is number 11. So these names, people, I'm telling you, bring out a classic Heather and watch your world change. Name your daughter Heather. I've literally not met one yet. That's a juicy scooper. Who named the daughter Heather, anyway? Very fun. Speaking of Heathers, there was a Heather that started chant at the golf and they had to apologize and quit. And some people thought it was me. No, there's. Like I said, there's many other Heathers besides me. I would never do that at a golf tournament. I went to the Masters. I know about golf decorum. I can enjoy myself and be quiet and watch something. I always thought it was very interesting that at the Masters how quiet was the complete opposite when nobody was making a peep. And I'm like, how are we surrounded with all these men that are dads that probably sneeze and clear their throat multiple times a day? But when it comes to watching the Masters, guess what? Crickets silent. Barely could hear the breeze in the Georgian sun. So everyone can be classy and quiet when they want to be. Oh, my God. Guess who just went red. Pamela Anderson. And not a fan. Not a fan. I've told you this. Now she's got short blonde hair, still no makeup. You know what, Actually, it does kind of look good. I'm gonna take it back. Maybe it's for a movie, but it's kind of copper. You know what, this color looks better with her no makeup look than the blonde did. So I'm going to see. This is what happens when you're an evolved person. You can change your mind. You can hear someone else's opinion that doesn't agree with yours, and then you're like, actually, you brought up some really good points. You don't have to freak out and go crazy typing away saying something nasty. All right, you guys, you know what to do. You go to heather McDonald.net there you can get tickets to the Vegas show before it sells out. You can join Patreon. Please subscribe to my new show, Juicy Crimes, which drops on all platforms every Wednesday. If you're so inclined, please leave a five star review. That would really help as well. And to everyone that's already done that, I think I'm over 900 views. I'd love to get to 2,000. That's my goal. So if you can make that happen, I'd appreciate it. People are really loving the juicy crimes. And I so, so, so appreciate your support. Have a wonderful rest of your day. Thank you.
Episode: Nicole Kidman Files, Kim K Sues Ray J, Comedians and Me!
Release Date: October 2, 2025
Host: Heather McDonald
In this wide-ranging episode, Heather McDonald delivers her signature irreverent, insightful take on the week's juiciest pop culture stories and reality TV drama. Covering everything from breaking news about Kim Kardashian's lawsuit against Ray J, the Nicole Kidman/Keith Urban separation, Bravo reality TV showdowns, and even a segment on controversies swirling around the international comedy scene, Heather holds nothing back. The episode is packed with personal anecdotes, sharp one-liners, and Heather’s unique perspective on celebrity culture and “the insanity of the world right now.”
[00:58–04:30]
“They are not going to just let him spew off this stuff without putting up a fight. My prediction is this won’t go to the lengths of actual defamation lawsuit. He will probably retract it, take it down and shut up. But maybe not. Maybe he’ll want to get into it.”
—Heather McDonald [03:40]
[04:35–08:30]
“I’m not shocked. I’m not. Oh, they’re life goals. They’re not. They’re just celebrities. Just like the people down the street that might get divorced after 19 years too. It’s the same thing. Get over it, people.”
—Heather McDonald [07:55]
[08:31–10:38]
“He would rather have Dunkin Donuts and smoke by himself and hang out with his ex-wife, Jennifer Garner, than you, you gorgeous, perfect thing. So she’s just like, yeah, screw it.”
—Heather McDonald [09:26]
[10:39–12:05]
[12:06–25:10]
[12:06–19:50]
“Can we just talk about that? Like, you’re getting a hundred thousand whether you stay 12 days or one. And people are screaming you. …that would be so tempting.”
—Heather McDonald [18:32]
[19:51–23:47]
“We’re raising our daughters and have this strong friendship. …But now this one is making a new paycheck on a top reality show while this one is saying I don’t care, I’m not either. …Maybe it’s a win-win for all of us.”
—Heather McDonald [22:56]
[23:48–25:00]
[25:01–26:57]
“Y’all will never know how much drama we are missing by not seeing these two crazy kids on the Valley. I agree.”
—Heather McDonald [26:40]
[32:05–36:33]
“Housewives is becoming like girls behaving badly of, you know, 2006. …How quickly can I leave this shoot and get the mic off my back and drive back to my penthouse in Century City?”
—Heather McDonald [35:17]
[36:34–37:19]
[37:20–51:20]
“Being sued does not mean that you are necessarily the—in the wrong. …Sometimes there isn’t. Sometimes it’s a money grab.”
—Heather McDonald [41:05]
“These shows do not pay enough…What are you proving this to?”
—Heather McDonald on RHOSLC rental excess [49:40]
[51:21–55:30]
[55:31–57:35]
“Are we just been around so long that you just put enough stuff out there and then somehow it becomes a reality 20 years later and it’s just a huge coincidence or is it something more?”
—Heather McDonald [57:05]
[57:36–1:00:50]
[1:00:51–End]
"That’s the world we live in. …I heard what you said about me on your podcast versus I heard what you said about me at that luncheon last week." [21:40]
"The money from your Caviar and your DJ gigs do not pay enough to waste $70,000 a month on rent. For what? Who are you proving this to?" [49:35]
"Are the people that are criticizing it bitter because they weren’t asked? …If this goes on for 20 years, they won’t be asked in the future." [53:50]
"This is what happens when you’re an evolved person. You can change your mind. You can hear someone else’s opinion that doesn’t agree with yours, and then you’re like, actually, you brought up some really good points." [1:05:13]
Heather’s tone is unfiltered, humorous, often biting but inherently relatable. She oscillates between gleeful snark, genuine empathy—or, as she says, “evolved” re-examination—and playful pop culture theorizing. Fans of Hollywood gossip, Bravo-watching, and reality TV meta-commentary will find this episode particularly rich in details, opinions, and juicy asides.
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