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Heather McDonald
Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales For real life, Mr. Segment, serial data and Cereal Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Woo woo. Hannah McDonald, juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. There is so much juicy stuff to go over. Juicy crimes, juicy trials, updates, crazy stories that happened over the weekend. I'm excited to get to it all. Thank you for all the people that commented about how wonderful it was that my son is now a college graduate. Yes, I have two college graduates that I raised and I'm very proud of him and Drake and the whole family. We had so much fun at ASU and I talked all about it on Patreon. And thank you for everybody who's part of Patreon. How do I join Heather? You've talked about it so much. Well, I've only done 822 episodes since I've been on it all those years. So you just go to heathermcdall.net and you click on Patreon and you change your life and everyone loves it. No one leaves, no one regrets it. Okay, so get ready. Getting your hands on Ozempic or wegovy is enough of a hassle. Negotiating with your insurance provider shouldn't be something something else that you need to worry about. That is what I love about Roe. Roe's insurance checker lets you know if you're covered for JLP1s for free. Go to Ro Co JuiceScoop for your free insurance check. That's Ro Co Juicy Scoop to see if your insurance covers GLP1s for free. Go to Roe Co Safety for black box warning and full safety information about GLP1 medications. This episode of Juicy Scoop is brought to you by booking.com I know many of you have a vacation rental and let me tell you, the best thing you can do is put it on booking.com because it opens the door to more guests. Whether you're looking to earn that extra income, fill those vacant weekends or grow your business, head over to booking.com to see how you can get started today. The reach is global, the bookings are consistent and the control is yours. For the bookings you've dreamed of, list your property on booking.com this podcast is.
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Heather McDonald
All right, let's get into the latest on the Diddy trial. There's so much going on with this trial and you know, of course it's very dark and really crazy when we look back at the Jaguar rights that would be saying things. There were videos from like three, four years ago. There's the Cat Williams talking about things and everything. From what we know about what happened with P. Diddy and his long term girlfriend Cassie, who he definitely physically abused, we have video evidence of that from the Intercontinental Hotel which then that is what sparked him settling with her for, we now know, $20 million. And then that also was the evidence that the government needed to go after him in pursuing if in fact he has done racketeering. And that's really, I think we can all agree that he's an awful, gross monster person and awful too many people in his life. But it's the thing that they're really getting on it on him, which is a kind of a hard thing I think for people to grasp, myself included, is was he using employees and parts of his legit business to also participate and run these freak offs which prostitution is illegal. So by having these freak offs, by bringing sex workers over state lines, all of that goes into illegal activity. And if an assistant is buying the baby oil or getting illicit drugs or covering up anything that might be seen as criminal, could that be seen as racketeering? And that's really what they're going to hopefully get him on to do. Hard time. We all can see the horrible, weird situation with this girl Cassie, which has just been so disturbing to hear about. Now there are no cameras in the courtroom, unlike the Karen Reid, which you can stream live. That's the one we've also been covering about, which I'm gonna get to later in the episode. This one we just have to rely on TMZ and several people in the media that are really doing their best to let us know. They go into their car and they do. This is what happened today. This is what she's saying. And so we're just relying on the media writing we're not being able to see this case play out like we did with the Menendez and other big trials in the past, I think because it is so graphic and personal. So Cassie finished her testimony and she is very pregnant with her third child with her husband Alex Fine, who, who seems to be a lovely husband. I was not aware that he was P. Diddy's personal trainer and that's how they met. So we just did a juicy crime on this which you can get on Patreon, which I had my sister really go over it. But just to catch you guys up to date. She talked about how she had to do these freak offs for 10 years. They would sometimes take up to four days long. She would have to have IVs and massages and recover from it. She'd have to participate with all these different men that she would get from Craigslist and she would have to set it up. They'd have a set time. They also showed text exchanges which the defense showed that she was always down for it, that she liked it, that they seemed like they were equal partners in loving these freak offs in which it was truly a voyeurism situation with P. Diddy watching her having multiple men. And then she also had written a book about her experience and then went to him and was like, I'll give you the rights to the book for this amount of money. So they're also saying, did she in some way use that opportunity as a blackmailing situation? So it's a lot of. I mean that's what the defense is trying to really present, that she was a willing participant, that they both had other partners on the side. Even though this was a long term thing, it was never exclusive. She would get jealous. It's really, when you read everything that she has said, it's completely traumatic. I feel like the world now understands what grooming is and how someone can be really stuck in a situation where they don't even realize what's happening to them. And it can happen when they are over 18. You can be groomed when you're an adult and almost be in a cult like setting of being in fear of the blackmailing because of there was. They were filming these freak offs. He would film them and one time he was showing people on a plane of her participate participation in it. So she claims. And she never wanted that out. And it's just, I just don't. I'm so curious to see like where she goes from here. I mean obviously very strong to be sitting on that stand and had so much talent. But right from the start she met him at 19. She had one song when she did perform it live on the BET some BET show. The video has now become available. It's not a great performance. She wasn't a strong performer, always very beautiful. She was a model. She did act and she was doing a movie. In between the 10 years of these like four days freak off, three days off being at P. Diddy's Beck and Call, but also dating other people. She somehow managed to do a movie and had a premiere to go to shortly right after some physical abuse had taken place. Where you could. They showed her out on the red carpet and having some bruises that you could see through the makeup. I'm like, how did. So he would allow you to do a movie but then you had to be available for the freak offs. It's not that I want to know every minute of her life, but it does make you go. I just don't understand like how this could go on for so long. What were you telling your parents you were doing when you were unavailable for three and four days at a time? Did you guys eat in between? Because I know they were doing a lot of drugs that he said that she said she was doing ketamine. And he said, I don't like it when you do ketamine. You're not as fun in the freak offs. I want you to be more alert. So no more K. And then she said he was often using a lot of narcotics as well and addiction. And then they would go have a freak off in the morning and then go drive two hours to San Bernardino to go to a swinger sex party. And then, then he went to the Playboy Mansion. I mean these stories are just. It's so much. That's where we are now. She is done with her testimony and we have heard from another witness who witnessed him physically abuse her where he got angry about. He said, where the hell are my eggs? And she was cooking eggs and he like threw a skillet at her and pulled her hair. We are now, right now Monday on the stand is a ex friend. I guess they were one time very close and now they're not. I can imagine why. If this is what you were dealing with as a friend, it's a very hard situation. But this girl named Carrie Morgan said right after the Intercontinental situation where we see him beating her in the hallway. She was staying at Cassie's apartment and P. Diddy showed up while Cassie was there shortly after with a hammer trying to break down the door. And she was terrified. They were both terrified. But she said Cassie just sat on the couch and looked as if she would, she didn't even care anymore if he did come in and kill her. Well, according to Carrie P. Diddy left and then they'd called the cops. But then Cassie wasn't cooperating with the cops. So then of course it ended. She also, Cassie admitted on the stand at the end of last week that she did just settle for 10 million with the hotel. And they, you know, so that's, that's where we are now. I don't know how many other witnesses, his whole family came. His daughters came at one point during the very graphic, you know, testimony about urinating in her mouth and things like that and choking on it. The girls did leave. His daughters did leave. They also went to prom this weekend. I mean, my God. And of course there's always the question of Kim Porter people. Another witness just came out. Danity Kane singer. Don Richard testified for the prosecution in the Diddy trial saying if he didn't get his way, people could go missing. So, you know, that's always been the story of who all these different people kind of in Diddy's life, around his career and around his businesses that died of pneumonia, like his former partner, Kim Porter, and mother of, I think three or four of his kids. And that was always very suspicious and strange. And there was another security guard that used to work for him that now is feeling confident in doing interviews, saying that he felt that he might have been poisoned. So many stories. There's a former sex worker who was interviewed years ago because he was brought in for a crime. Jonathan Audi. He's a former adult film actor, best known, best known for his 2018 shootout outside of the Trump National Golf Club, which he emerged as a key figure in the Sean Diddy Combs ongoing federal sex trafficking trial. Because Adi alleges that Combs hired him and 12 other male escorts for repeated freak off parties in Miami. Drug and baby oil fueled gatherings where he was exploited as a sex slave alongside Cassie Ventura. And he claims that Combs made him sign a $5 million NDA to keep him silent and paid him roughly 800 per session over 15 encounters. And Cassie Ventura testified that she did recognize Adi from the prosecutor's photos. And Adi detailed recorded statements are now part of the evidence against Combs. What's interesting is there was a video that I remember seeing years ago about this when he was brought in for this shooting. And it was 2018. And he looked like shit. You know, he looked like a weird, crazy person. And he's like, yeah, I was a sex slave for P. Diddy and his girlfriend. And everybody was like, what is this weird thing about. Well, turns out he was telling the truth. That's why, when we can look back now at Jaguar Wright and everything she said, however, when she was talking and spilling all her great knowledge and her very unique way of speaking and her cadence that was just, you know, so memorable, she did bring up other people or hint at other people, other big celebrities. So far in this trial, there has been no other celebrities that have been implicated in participating in these freak offs or doing anything. There has been no witnesses to the effect that Anyone was under 18 that was participating or being hired. So it's really. So for that part, maybe they didn't have the evidence, maybe it didn't exist. But his wife came out and said, this guy, Adi's wife, he wasn't like this before. We had a nice marriage and a nice life and he was successful. And I guess he might have been a Chippendales dancer, I heard that too, prior to this. But of course he got hooked into drugs and all of this. And he says, I feel safe in prison because I've been terrified of P. Diddy this entire time since he got involved in being a hired sex slave for him as he described. So this, so this is where we are with all of it. It's just really horrible and disturbing and it sounds like, you know, we, we know what was happening. And it's just crazy that less than two years ago he was honored. He had like the P. Diddy lifetime award at some event where he sang songs and he got on stage and he thanked. I don't know if it was two years ago, so just a few years ago, but he did thank Cassie, he thanked his attorney for keeping him free. And now all these things are being examined. Like how is it that they were at all these hotels and all these different people were involved and they went on for numerous days and were scheduled so often and so frequent. How many people knew about this? Oh, and she did say, Cassie did testify that to her knowledge, no, there was never any drug in the baby oil. Many of us, myself included, thought the baby oil might have had something in it and that's why they were confiscating it from his home, like GHB or something. According to her, she said no. Also according to the friend Kerry Morgan, she said she witnessed, did he get physical with Cassie on at least two occasions when he was totally sober. So this wasn't just a drug induced rage that changed him. This, he could do this sober Drunk, whatever he was. So there we are with that case. Really disturbing. And also many people towards the end of last week said that Aubrey o' Day, who was also part of Danity Kane, was going to take the stand in the Diddy trial. She has said herself she was never going to New York to do that. She was never going to be a part of it. She'd never been subpoenaed. That was not the case. So, you know, sometimes information is wrong. Okay, Kanye west is still with Bianca. They are back together. I had someone write me and say they were eating at a restaurant in Mallorca, Spain, and Bianca was sitting there eating a full meal with just full tits out, according to this person. I saw photos of her with like a Netty, you know, very see through top on. But I guess on this particular dinner, Jess, Teddy's out, you know, eating some Spanish food. And according to this latest article from Intouch, Kanye west assigns his wife Bianca Censori, as his power of attorney amid legal troubles. So there's, you know, there's certain he's being hit with lawsuits too. So many I can't even get into it. So he's got all his legal troubles of disgruntled people that worked for him that said that he was, you know, racist and also anti religious based on their religion saying like, change this way about you, which was a religious way of someone presenting themselves, all of this stuff. He's fighting this and allegedly made her the power of attorney. So maybe that's why she came back. But, you know, we, Kanye and P. Diddy had a phone conversation recently from prison in which Kanye's like, I love you. I'm standing by you. You were the greatest thing that ever happened to me. There is also an account of a young girl which I'd seen a couple months, maybe a year ago, and it's come forward. It's a testimony that she says that allegedly she was in a bad situation with Kanye at a recording studio where she was given a drink and she was there with her female manager who I think was also like a young girl. And they felt funny after they drank the drink and they had to get out of there. So there's a lot going on here. And we don't know if, like I said, no other celebrity in this particular trial is being brought up. No one is saying this person was there or this female star that he used to date was there. Nobody is saying that in the trial as of yet. And I don't think they really are just filling the case of the trafficking and the racketeering, because that's what's going to really put Diddy away for a long time. Way more than just physically abusing another person. Getting your hands on Ozempic or wegovy is enough of a hassle. Negotiating with your insurance provider shouldn't be something else that you need to worry about. That is what I love about robotics. Roe's insurance checker lets you know if you're covered for JLP1s for free. Roe can help you understand if GLP1s like Ozempic and Wegovia are right for you and your goals. But that's just the beginning. If you're eligible for GLP1s and you want to see if you're covered, all you have to do is submit your insurance card and RO will take care of the rest. No paperwork, no negotiating, no waiting on hold. Ro's Free Insurance Checker will send you a comprehensive report of your coverage details so you can make a decision that's right for your goals and your budget. 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Well, the judge has now said strike that from the record of the case because it really has nothing to do with their case and you are just putting it out there in the media, putting it out there in the case so that people like us will report on it and have an, you know, another negative image towards Blake Lively. So that's not gonna be part of the actual case. But you know, it is juicy. It's a juicy thing. They're right. Like did she really have. First I thought, oh, it's a, it's a source that said no. They're basically just saying like someone came to them and said, oh no, her attorney's called, you know, Blake Taylor's attorneys. Well, if neither Taylor and Blake are going to testify that yes, I got a call from her attorneys or my attorneys told me this. They're not saying and it's just a source. So it's basically just like, you know, a Daily Mail article or something that then was being put out by the attorney. So yes, I think that was probably the proper thing to do is to strike it from the record. You know, we haven't seen them together. They weren't together at Super Bowl. They, you know, they haven't been together since all this went down. She has been subpoenaed, Taylor Swift. And of course, her people are made a statement saying she shouldn't be part of this. She only lent one song to her. She didn't write any part of the movie. She wasn't there on set, all of it. But, you know, because. But Justin wants to prove, you know, wants it all out there. Justin and his Wayfarer people. So that's the latest with that. And then there were human remains found near Taylor Swift's oceanfront Rhode island mansion. You know, Real Housewives of Rhode Island. That's the new Bravo show. And it is a very, very wealthy old money area that now has maybe a serial killer on the loose. It was a leg. It was like a bone of a leg or something. In the article. It didn't say, like, oh, it could have been from five years ago or five days ago. It just was a leg that was found. And it really wasn't that close to her property. And I don't even think she's been there. It's like her summer house. So, you know, you put Taylor Swift in the headlines and people read it and you're like, wait, what? What's going on? But I hope there isn't a serial killer. I hope that the people are safe there. But that is a scary thing to find. But it was just one leg, so I don't know. And then Blake and Ryan went out just having a cute dinner, smiling ear to ear. And paparazzi just happened to have caught them in New York just being a happy, cute couple. Okay, this is a crazy story. Tommy Lee from Motley Crew married to Pamela Anderson Lee, which they had the two boys, part of that. He was married to Heather Locklear. He is married to Brittany Furlan. She has been a guest on Juicy Scoop. She is a funny girl that made it during the vine days, met Tommy, they fell in love, and they've been together or married for like maybe six years, something like that. And so a couple days ago, TMZ announced that they. Our source said that they were separated and headed towards divorce. Well, then the story came out first. I didn't even know if it was true over the weekend, but it is, because Britney has spoken about it. There's this guy named Ronnie Radke who is a musician. I have never heard of him, but you know, much like Tommy Lee, he's got black hair, face tats, the whole thing. He's a musician. So I think a similar type to Tommy, according to Brittany now, because she's coming forward, so she gets approached by him through Snapchat, Ronnie Radke, and they start flirting on Snapchat. And she is, you know, feeling guilty about it and either tells Tommy or Tommy finds out. And Tommy writes Ronnie Radke and is like, what the hell are you doing? Trying to talk to my wife and get with my wife and all this other stuff. And according to Ronnie, he's like, what are you talking about? I have never talked to Brittany Furlan. And he realizes this all went down on Snapchat. And. And then Ronnie is like, I don't have a Snapchat account. Well, meanwhile, Brittany kept writing him, and according to him, she was headed to his house to meet him. And then when he was getting the threats from Tommy Lee, he decided to come forward and tell the story. So Ronnie tells the story saying, somebody is impersonating me on Snapchat. I never pursued Brittany Furlan. And now her husband, Tommy Lee, who I admired as a musician, is, like, threatening and coming after me. So I'm gonna come clean. Stop. Stop stalking me. Stop talking to me. He then shares a long DM from Brittany that she's like, I'm just shocked. Like, I don't understand how this wasn't you. We had all these conversations. I don't understand how you could. How someone could catfish, snapping photos and timelines and all this. But he has proven he does not have a Snapchat account. So people are like, wow, this is really embarrassing, Brittany. Like, you got catfished. You were flirting with another man. So she came forward on her own TikTok and said, you know, yes, Tommy and I were having a difficult time in our marriage. Also, the previous TMZ article, according to the why they were broken up before we knew this catfish story is that Tommy was drinking too much and it was hurting their marriage. So the real reason is this. And she's like, I'm staying in a hotel. I'm going through a rough time. And she basically says to the Ronnie Radke, stop talking about me. My attorneys have sent you three cease and assists. Yeah, it's embarrassing. I got catfished. Stop bringing it up. Stop talking about, why are you making a bigger deal out of it? And really, I think what is true is it was becoming a thing. And he was like, no, I didn't go after your wife. I don't Want to be known probably in the industry as someone that seeks out other people's wives that are also musicians. So that's why he came forward. But then the story was so juicy that then people picked it up. But I guess she's mad that he shared all the information proving that in fact it was a catfish. But I respect that she came forward and talked about it. She is a funny girl. She. I don't know how much standup she's doing, but she was doing standup. And I say come forward with the story whether you stay with Tommy or not. It's an embarrassing story. And comedy is tragedy plus time. And I mean, it's kind of funny. You were like getting in your car, gonna go meet him. You're freaking out. It's like the ultimate gaslighting. You're like, oh, my God. It basically, I'm like anybody else that's been taken by like a Nigerian prince who I think is going to marry me. Like, it's just as. It's like as bad as, like, what would happen to a 90 day fiance person or what happened to Mary on Sister Wives when she was catfished by who she thought was this man that was into her and it was actually a woman and it was, you know, so I think being a celebrity, be careful. Like, this could have. Who knows who this person was. It could have been another woman who was always jealous that she was with Tommy Lee. I'm guessing if they ever find out, and they probably won't, that the catfish was a jealous, bitter, former, like, rocker chick that was obsessed with their marriage and wanted to see if she could find a younger version of Tommy and see if she could pose as him and get out, get under a board housewife's skin and see how much, how far she would go in talking to him. I don't know that any, like, nudes or anything were sent. I think it was just flirting and the attempt to meet for the first time. But it is a crazy story. Okay. Also going on in Paris. Kim Kardashian is there and she is doing the trial for what happened almost 10 years ago when she was sleeping in the middle of the night at her hotel room in Paris. Her two sisters had gone to the nightclub and they had one security guard with the three of them. And the security guard went with the other sisters to the nightclub. She was in a very nice hotel and the doors were locked and she was laying in her bed or about to go to sleep when she, you know, when these men were in her room, she said they were dressed up like policemen, but they had face masks on. And she didn't know if she was going to be killed, raped. She was terrifying. And they took, I think it's almost 12, $6 million worth of jewels from her, many that were, you know, momentum mementos and, you know, sentimental things. And she was. They left her wrapped, bound in a. In a bathtub. She was able to escape from the bathtub and get to the balcony and, and contact someone from there. So they're very elderly men. One has died, one has gotten out of the trial because he is too sick. She said. One has written her a letter apologizing. And she says, I do appreciate the apology, but that doesn't take away the forever trauma of not feeling safe, always having to have security. But she went there and she is having a great time. Like she is truly making lemonade out of a traumatic, traumatic experience, I believe. Then she told Lauren Sanchez, you know what, why don't you plan your bachelorette weekend or week around when my mom and I will be in Paris for the Paris trial. I mean, she's really making the best of it. She's wearing great outfits, going out every night. Apparently in the court in France, it's like you have to stand. You're not sitting. So that's awful. It's very warm in the courtroom. It's uncomfortable, and she's doing a great job. She has a new show coming out with Ryan Murphy, which is gonna be on Hulu, which is about an all female run law firm that it looks to. They kind of like go after women who have been scorned by their rich ex husbands or something. It looks real juicy and fun. She is top billing over Naomi Watts, Niecy Nash and Glenn Close. Now, we know she has a big stake in Hulu. Her show's in Hulu and that's why all these shows that she's doing are coming from Hulu. Ryan Murphy has a big deal. She was in American Horror show, where she did very well in that. Really cool that she's pivoting into acting. And if you are not going to become a real attorney, which, why do you have to. Kim, when you can play one on tv, you can play one on tv. You're in the courtroom, hopefully putting these people away for the rest of their life, as they should. I'm curious to know what is the defense? It sounds like they have the men, so I don't know why they're not playing out or how France court works that you wouldn't just plea this out why we need to go through this trial. How, I guess, are they. Some of them saying that it wasn't that bad or that they don't. That they weren't there. I don't know. But in the meantime, she's wearing, like, crazy outfits, and some people think they're crazy. Oh, it was a $10 million jewelry heist. But Lauren has all her girls there. Lauren Sanchez is marrying, you know, Amazon king. And, you know, so Chris is there, and Katy Perry is there and all these other, like, stunning girls, and they're just having the time of their life. They're, like, taking a boat ride. They're wearing multiple cute outfits. Chris has a. I pretty think. I pretty much think she got another facelift. I think she had a facelift before she got a new one. And she looks like she's 35. She looks absolutely amazing. She's thin, looking fabulous. She's 69 years old. I'm just like, everyone should be so lucky to look this good and having a blast while you relive a traumatic experience when you thought your daughter almost died and when she thought she almost died. Yeah. Make the best of it. Go to Paris and do this at night. Go to cute dinners and celebrate the upcoming wedding of the richest man on earth to your friend, Lauren Sanchez. So there you go. Okay, this was an awful story, but it's so interesting, I have to say it. A Palm Springs IVF clinic was bombed by this young man who did die in the bombing. It was a car bomb. And there was a. I think there are a couple people that was hurt, but I think he's the only one that has died. Calls himself a pro mortalist because he had, like, a manifesto, and he opposed people being born without their consent. First when I heard of this, I was like, an IVF clinic. I'm like, who would have a problem with this? Maybe people thinking no children should be conceived out of the traditional way between a man and a woman having sex. But he was 25, white guy. And the reason. I mean, this is terrible. But I have said on this show there'll come a time when people will want to sue for their. Sue their parents for being born without their consent. Like, this life sucks. There has been actual cases in another country where a man was suing his parents, being like, you can't cut me off at 35. You've taken care of me this long, and you need to keep me in the life I've become accustomed to. Almost like someone who was married. So, you know, very tragic and strange and Awful and very, very scary, especially for the people that might have been going to this clinic. And what's going on with what? You know, what if they had embryos there? I don't know the details of that, but, like, just terrible and strange and. Yeah, no, there's no. It's, like, physically impossible to. I remember one time, one of the kids was one of my kids. I was like, no, you're gonna finish out the soccer season or something. And I remember, I think it was. Brandon was like, I didn't even wanna do this. You signed me up for a sport without my legal consent. He was like 6. And I was like, what? So, yeah, this is weird. Also sad, tragic news. This was crazy. There was a Mexican Navy tall ship. It lost power, and while departing on the evening of May, 17 collided with the underside of the Brooklyn Bridge. 277 people were aboard, and two sailors were killed. Two remain in critical condition, and 15 more were injured. Well, what you didn't see originally when I saw this was. It was like this big tall thing, and it looked like it had, like, just like flags, like, on each layer of the ship. But those were actual people, like, doing some type of artistic things. So there were people standing up there, and then, you know, and then all of a sudden it drifted into the bridge and it was too tall for the bridge, and so those people went down. I mean, it was terrible. Okay, now, little weirder news. Sonja Morgan, real housewife of New York. She's having kind of a weird couple weeks. Last week, she was at a restaurant in New York City, and when they handed her the bill, she had some people with her. It was about $1,000. According to people there. She threw a fit saying, this was supposed to be comped in exchange for me coming and maybe posting about it. It was supposed to be comped. Well, they were like, no, we have no word that this is supposed to be comped. And here is your bill. And she left without paying. The story got out. She has since paid. And so that happened. Now, I will say about sometimes why people get free meals or it's comped or whatever. You really do arrange that before you go in through a publicist or something where it's like, oh, you're gonna come and they would like to treat you, or they're gonna give you $500 off and you agree to at least do a story or a post about it, let people know about the restaurant. And oftentimes, really big food blogger and vlogger people, they don't want any Free meals. They don't get free meals. They go in and give their honest opinion, because if they were to get a free meal every time, of course they're gonna say it's great. So she went, I guess, and just assume because she's a star, it would just be paid. But maybe there wasn't. Let's give her some. A little bit of grace. Maybe there was a miscommunication, and maybe somebody had told her it was going to be free. And then, you know, there was a miscommunication somewhere along the line, someone at the restaurant didn't get the word. But in the end, she paid. Then she goes, and she's in Palm beach, and according to this, there was an older woman that was having trouble at the restaurant, and she called 911 like she was in distress, and. And the ambulance came. But somewhere in the process of helping this woman, somehow, Sonia got hurt. It's a very confusing story. And they took her in the ambulance. They said, we don't want to take any chance. We're taking the ambulance. Well, now she's saying, I was set up. I was set up last week with this bad press about me not paying the check for $1,000 when I thought it was going to be free. And now this story's blowing up to make me look like a crazy person who ended up in this ambulance after I don't know what happened. But you know what? Who cares? Like, your job is to be a chaotic, crazy, boozing older lady. Like, that is what made you famous. That is what made you iconic. Don't touch the Morgan letters. And then all that kind of stuff that she does is crazy. We all know she's not sober, so hopefully she's okay. But it just goes along with, like, let's bring her back on tv. That's what we want. We're not looking to watch reality shows about the people that can keep their shit together. That's not why you get asked back over and over. This is funny. Speaking of reality stars, reality blurb caught this Kim Zolciak, who is now divorced or getting divorced, she went to a Post Malone show. And she and Post Malone seem to go way back, because I remember when she was hanging out with him playing beer pong, and she, like, did a post, and she's like, oh, post. He always loves to play beer pong after, you know, after he performs. I'm like, how close are they? Well, maybe they kind of are close. Anyway, she was backstage. They took a photo, and in Facetuning, I guess herself and her daughter, they facetuned Post Malone, and it took off all his tattoos. Like, he has, like, tattoos under his eyes. And I'm thinking that whatever app they used must have read that as, like, dark circles. Cause they're not, like, completely gone. They're just, like, lighter and blended out. And, I mean, I think it's funny. There's no secret that, you know, 99% of the reality stars Facetune every single post that they put out there. So she just got caught. And I think it's funny. It's another thing that she should just make fun of. This was not a. This was kind of funny. Okay, Amanda Bynes, we know she's not the Amanda Bynes we remember from the Nickelodeon days and the big. When she was in several movies. She's the man and all that kind of stuff. But she still is on social media sometimes. She's excited to become a manicurist, and you can book a manicure with her. And then that, like, stops, and we don't know what's going on. But this was. She just said, my God, I can't believe it. I finally grew out my bangs. And the bangs are not grown out. And then she talks about a new tattoo she got with her best friend of 10 years, and people are like, what is going on with her? And why does she have these eyebrows? I don't know. Obviously, she is a very different person than when she was acting all the time. Started when she was 10, doing standup at the Laugh Factory. Was discovered there, got worked on the Amanda show and then had all these movies, and clearly something happened. I'm just kind of surprised that someone like her still would want to post and be on social media. Same with Brittany. That's what's kind of interesting. It's like they still need some type of validation or they're not gonna be the person that's like, you know what? That was my life in the past, and I'm good with it. I'm just gonna, like, do my own thing and change my look or my name, which. Yeah, I think that's. I hope she's. I mean, I hope she's happy. She's had. She has a best friend. Her bangs are not grown out, but maybe they're getting there. And she has a new tattoo, so good for her.
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So it shows on her car according to the prosecution that she backed up and did the three point turn at around the 12:30 time. Now this is where the discrepancy of all this forensic stuff is going to be kind of confusing to grasp because two different experts say two different things. Same with the Googling where Jen McCabe, who was her world's worst friend but maybe the world's best sister in law, it showed on her phone that she googled how long does it take to die in the snow? And it was around 2:00am so the defense is saying you knew that John was in the snow dying after possibly being beat up and you googled it? She said, no, I googled it after we found him dead, trying to figure out if and when Karen hit him in with the car like she's saying she did then. But there's no evidence that she ever said, I hit him, I hit him, I hit him. It's just a couple people saying that she said it, but there's no video of her saying it. Okay, but she did. It is clear that she did do a three point turn to get out to leave. And it was around 12:30pm but with Jen McCabe then another expert came and said, no, if you have like your safari open from two o' clock and then you just use that tab and you look up something, it might show 2am versus 6 even though you did it at 6. So for someone sitting in the jury, it's like, well, two experts are saying two different things. There's so many pieces of evidence, I'm not going to go through them all. I've talked about it. And then of course I'm going to miss some because I'm not sitting in the trial every day. I'm just catching you guys up. So this now is saying she backed up and then that was the end of the activity on John's phone. The defense is saying no, there was more activity on John's phone, like walking so many feet or whatever, which would say he went, that she, he went, he was in the house, she then backed up, left, and then there was activity on his phone because he was still alive. And then either was beat up at the house and walked out and fell into the snow or died in the house and it was dropped off in the snow to die so it looked like she hit him. Now some of you are writing me saying like I know you say free care. And Reid, because there's so much cover up. Now John Higgins, who, the guy that she was flirting with on the phone, who was also at the party, who also butt dialed the owner of the house at around 1:30am they now have a photo of him. The defense at his police department remember at 1:30am after he'd been drinking all night, he went to the police department where he worked just to do some extra work or something. They show him talking on a phone on surveillance at the time that he said it was a butt dial and he never spoke to Albert. So that along with all the other things doesn't look good for them. But one thing that somebody else said to me is the biggest thing about if you believe that Karen inadvertently backed up and didn't realize because she'd been drinking into John in being pissed at him, backed up in him and left. Prosecution is saying she backed up on purpose to kill him because she was pissed at him. But either or whether you think she did it on purpose or not, did she do it that his injuries don't seem like that's what you would get from a car crash. One being that right after he, when he was found that he had like black eyes which looked like he'd gone on a fight, you know, was beating was like a punch out fight with somebody. But a juicy script wrote me and said Heather, but remember when you me, Heather McDonald fainted on the Tempe improv stage. I hit the back of my head so hard and then within, right away my eyes were looking puffy. But then the next day I had two black eyes and I was like, I didn't fall on my face. And it was told to me that when you hit your head really hard, sometimes it can cause black eyes. So what this juicy scooper said to me is, couldn't it be possible that she did hit him? He fell back into the hard concrete or snow and hit the back of his head in such a way that he was knocked out. Maybe he was dead at that moment. Maybe he did die in the snow, never went into the house. And when they found him, he had the black eyes from hitting his head on the snow. You know, I still think there's just so much question of deleting and covering up and different things that I would think that there's just too much doubt to convict her when the time comes. But the other thing is really, could all these people be colluding to cover it up, you know, but like I said, there's just so much with the dog and the scratches on his arms. How did he get those? It just things just don't add up in either scenario. And I just don't know that we'll ever know. But one thing that has been brought to my attention, this article came out in People magazine February 4th in 2021. And this was also brought to my attention by juicy Scooper. A pregnant woman's death was Ruled suicide. Now, police think a married cop killed her. We knew she didn't kill her baby. Okay. This girl, Sandra Birchmore, she was only 23. She was found dead in her home in Canton, Massachusetts. The Canton Police Department is who is being. Is who John o' Keefe belonged to. And all these people that you know were drinking and at this house, there's been rumors that they're swingers. Well, with this particular story, this girl, allegedly, because, you know, the trial hasn't happened yet, but basically the story is this young girl was part of a youth program in Canton that the police ran. And she supposedly was having a relationship for many years, starting as young as 15 with a police officer who then went on to get married and have three kids. And allegedly, she was groomed by him. She was passed around to other police officers, allegedly. And then found herself pregnant. While he's married with three kids. Maybe she was pregnant with his child. And then they found her and it looked like she had hung herself. And there's enough evidence to believe that, no, she was strangled by him. And he has been arrested. And I guess they're waiting on the trial. And that is where maybe when Karen Reid is so angry at John O' Keefe and calling him and leaving 44 message saying, you're a pervert, you're a pervert. Maybe it's because there's the thought of the police department having more than one person having kind of deviant behavior with someone underage because of this story. Maybe that is what she was referring to is like, why are you with these weird people? And then you don't come out and you're flirting with other people. Because I did think the word pervert was very weird. And I wouldn't think that you would call someone that's possibly swinging or cheating a pervert. You would be like, you're a cheater. But the word pervert struck me as a strange thing. And so maybe there is a correlation. Maybe she was referring to this particular Canton case at the time when she was leaving those messages. So there we go. Okay. Fun Jordan. Everyone's favorite cheerleader, Jordan Hudson. She world's best cheerleader, dating Bill Belichick. Let me give you the latest on her. Jordan Hudson. She has a flyer. That's what she does. Cheerleading, flying for the ECE Blackout cheer team in Massachusetts. I'm guessing this is just like a professional cheer team. I don't think this is in college anymore because she's out of college. She penned an emotional letter to her squad explaining why she decided to quit cheer to move to Chapel Hill, North Carolina and support and now manage the personal brand of her boyfriend, 73 year old football coach Bill Belichick. In the letter, Hudson apologized for her absences, the baggage of media attention that followed her, and the toll it took on her identity. The. The pair who met in 2021 went public with a romance we know in 2023. And some of the. Just. These are some of the quotes I just thought was kind of funny. She wrote to them. I hope you can all understand that my absences were symptomatic of my commitment to put the needs of my other teams above my own need for recreation. Kind of weird. Selfishly, I would have preferred to be in the gym with all of you doing what I love, cheerleading. Sorry for all the baggage that comes with having me around. From the interlopers at practice to the subsequent media exploitation to the lack of dependability during this time, I have faced a slow exterior erasure of my strong individual identity. I can't thank you enough for helping me keep that intact by embracing me for me. So strange. Also, then she still managed to, you know, be in the Miss Main pageant and come in third while she's his PR team, going to his CBS interviews, helping to sell his book and making sure he doesn't answer the wrong questions. Also running an $8 million real estate portfolio which she owns herself, all at 24. Some people think she's older than 24. Like she's pulling a. Natalie Grace, Natalia Grace. I don't know. I find her fascinating. I find this so weird the way she writes and like. Yeah, I just, I want to know more about Jordan. I really, I really do. Jordan, I would love for you to come on Juicy Scoop. I. I think you're obviously a very intelligent person and I just, I can't wait for this relationship to end and then she can just tell us everything. This is a relationship that I'm sure you're gonna be shocked. That did not work out. David Geffen, he's a billionaire. He's 82. And unfortunately he has filed for divorce from David Armstrong, who's 32. It didn't work out. I don't know why they seem like they had so much in common. They too are 50 years apart. And David is seen here looking like an 82 year old white guy. And David Armstrong has got a see through net top on kind of like Bianca, a suit, looking fierce. He's a model. He's a go go dancer. I don't know why these two did not work out. There's no prenup. But since they were only married for two years, he can only get a year of spousal support, basically, and he's not going to get some huge payout because they were only married for a short amount of time. But, yeah, I'm sure the people that went to the wedding are absolutely shocked. Okay. The Valley. There was talk that the Valley had really bad ratings, that they were getting very low numbers on Bravo. What I don't understand when people talk about Bravo numbers is that means that this is how many people watched it on Bravo at the time that it premieres. And the numbers are much worse than most shows that were popular on Bravo a few years ago. However, a lot of people, especially younger people that would be watching the Valley because the cast is younger, watch it on Peacock the next day or watch it on a Bravo app or something. That's what I just don't really get. But anyway, there were. Because I feel like a lot of people are talking about the Valley, and I think it is a popular show on Bravo, and then that they're going to have a big shakeup. It was almost going to get canceled. Alex Baskin, who is the producer of it, has said that's. None of that's true. There's not going to be a big cash shakeup, and the show is doing fine right now. Jax is still not on the episodes that we're seeing, and he is kind of missed, though. I think the show is, you know, is really fun and interesting. But there was one thing I was just going to tell you that I think anyone could relate to. Okay. So even if you're not watching this show, you're going to relate to this one part. So the couples are all at a Santa Barbara house and they go out drinking at the winery in the day, and they provide. It's a boozy show. They're all boozing, but they all have little kids. And there's this one girl, Nia, and she's very beautiful. And she's married to this guy who was also a child actor and now is a big voiceover guy. So he has to leave Santa Barbara and drive and go do his voiceover job and then leave early the next morning, drive all the way back to Santa Barbara. And for people that don't know, it's a solid two, three hour drive after going home, sleeping in his bed. He has three little kids. I'm sure the nanny's there, but, like, you're not gonna have a great sleep when you have three little kids. Like three kids under two little. He comes and is like so happy to be ready to wine taste. So he's drinking a lot and kind of trying to catch up with everybody. And then they go back to the house and according to Janet, he went into the pantry and swigged a thing of tequila, which we didn't see. And then they go to sit down for the beautiful chef's dinner and he's asleep, he's passed out. And they're like, mia, where is Danny, your husband? And she's like, oh, well, you know, he's just really tired from the drive and the kids and he had to do the voiceover. And they're like, why aren't you being honest? Why don't you just say he's fucking shit faced and he passed out and missed dinner. And she's like, what? I don't know. I mean, look, I think it could be all the things. But yeah, was he drunk and tired and fell asleep and she didn't feel like waking him? And they're mad because this is work. I've always said this. These reality shows are work. And when someone doesn't go on the cast trip or misses a scene or doesn't go somewhere, they're like, I had to check in my thing. I had to work at the factory from, you know, nine to five. Why aren't they? And I'm. According to Brittany, I've shared all my horribleness about my life, my marriage, my child, my child's diagnosis, everything. Like, why can't you just be honest that your husband boozes a little too much? Why can't you just say that? And she's like, oh my God. So I don't know. I'm saying it because when you go on trips and everybody's boozing, what I've learned is you set the expectations. Okay, now it's a reality show, but still, if you're not on a reality show, you go, hey, look, you guys, if we're going to drink during the day, it's fine. But we are having a chef inspired dinner. And can we just keep it in check? I don't care what you do Friday, but Saturday is the big dinner. So in real life, this is what people need to do when they go on like a three day trip that involves drinking. Whatever you say. I don't care what you guys do Friday, Saturday, don't get too drunk. Be like two drinks in max when you come to the dinner at 7, okay? Because I'd like you to be alert. It's my birthday. Dinner. And then if you want to roll around the pool the next day and drink everything and pass out at 7 and miss dinner, I don't give a shit. You need to say those things. Because I felt this was, like, a very relatable thing, and that's why I kind of like the show. I think that's a very real thing that you would have a big dinner and someone's husband would get too drunk or maybe a woman get a little too drunk and pass out. And if you are on a show and you're cool with it, maybe you talk a little shit behind their back. Like, that was annoying. I would've. You know, like, we paid $200 a person, and he wasn't there for the dinner. But most people would just be like, all right, you're lost. Like, who cares? And then that person that drank so much and passed out, they wake up, like, dying of thirst at, like, 1am and it's like, shit, I missed Christmas. I'm so fucking pissed at myself. I think we've all been there. Obviously, I have. Okay, so there we go. Mormon wives on Hulu. Secret lives of Mormon Wives. It's getting good, you guys. It is much better, I think, than first season. Here's the thing. Are they hard to tell apart? Yes, they are. They all have tons of long, some of them fake hair. And two of the girls look exactly alike, Jesse and Demi. But Demi, who has this really hot older husband. She is who I was talking to with the two stars of Vanderpump Villa about. And, you know, that is juicy. So they go to Vanderpump Villa. It's a crossover. It's all on Hulu. And this girl, Demi, ends up talking to one of the waiter guys, Maurice Marciano or something, his name a little too long. And that's what we're gonna see transpire in the show. I'm only a couple episodes in, but it's crazy that all these Mormons. And now they're on the show and they're talking about the show. They're breaking the fourth wall. They're saying how much they're making. They're saying this one wants to come back into the mom talk group, but really they mean this one wants to come and be on the show. And they're basically saying that, like, you want to be on the show. And one of the girls is the one that was part of the swinging scandal that got this all started. And. And which is Taylor, the main girl that one day just went on TikTok and is like, oh, yeah, mom talk is broken up because we were actually all swingers and she spilled the whole beans and all these people got divorced, including her. And I can't even remember. The story was like so confusing when she told it, but there was kissing, there was kissing, girl on girl kissing. There was, you know, dry humping. There was like having sex with your partner and then the other person was having sex with person on the same king size bed. And then people, then they were like swapping but make out and like, I don't even know. And it's just crazy that Mormonism, which was, I was always told was like way like more conservative, more way stricter than like Catholicism. I'm watching this show. They're on a reality show. They're going to Stagecoach. They're wearing the skimpiest outfits at Stagecoach. They are. Most of them are divorced or on their second husband. And tons of plastic surgery, which they look good, they're gorgeous. And then they also go to marriage therapy where they take ketamine, which is what Diddy didn't like Cassie doing because he thought she wasn't like, she'd get too out of it. They take ketamine and talk about their marital problems, yet they can't have a cup of coffee or a cocktail. It's so fricking weird. And this one girl, Jen Affleck, who came on my show last year before the show started, a big part of the push for the show is that she was married to this guy Affleck, I forgot her husband's name, who is a second cousin of Ben Affleck. Well, once the show aired, people did their research and there is no relation at all. And I like it that he brings it up. He's like, you know, you shouldn't have said it. She goes, you told me that you were part of the Affleck family, that you guys are second cousins. He's like, I never said it. You said it. And now you have egg on your face. And you were like, it looked like you were lying. She's like, well, I'm not lying. Your family told me that you were cousins with Ben Affleck. And it's like, I like that they are referring to last season, referring to how their lives has changed since they've become famous and how now certain people that were part of the swinging scandal wanna get on the show because they're like, well, fuck it. Yeah, my life blew up. I got divorced, but I'm still only 25 with 3 kids. I still have a size 25 inch waist and Big tits and fake lips, and I might as well just go get on this show and, you know, who cares now, like, the church is. What's the church gonna do to me? They love. They. The church loves that Mormonism is on tv. It is not embarrassing at all. They see it as a huge advertisement. I'm just guessing Scientology was like, wait, why did we try to keep it so quiet? Scientology was. Went like, you know, the legit Hollywood way by, like getting big Hollywood stars to be a part of it. Really. Scientology should have just had a reality show 20 years ago and made it act, made it like a cool, weird thing and not kept it so secret. I don't know. It's fascinating. They're just fun to look at. And, you know, they still have these parties and they'll have like the Martinelli's and they'll like make like exciting sodas or they'll have like a lot of sweets, and then they just drink it like cocktails. And it's like they have these cocktail parties and stuff, and it's like still light out. And then they. I mean, I'm gonna let you guys watch it. Let's. We'll go a little bit further on it maybe on Thursday's show. But it is. It's worth watching it really. There is a lot of juicy stuff, but it's very confusing because, like I said, they all look alike. But it's fascinating at the same time. Okay, Real Housewives News, Dorit and pk the divorce is going forward. You know, he doesn't want to pay any spousal support. I don't know if he's asking for child support. Of course, she's the one with the steady salary. He's an entrepreneur, which is a harder way to judge how much you're really making a month, you know, versus. Here's my check from Bravo. I make whatever 700,000 a year. Then, you know, she might have to pay him child support. He went on a date with this girl who was like on survivor, but she's 50 and she's pretty, so she's like age appropriate. And it's just become a very ugly divorce. However, over the weekend, Kyle's and Mauricio's daughter Alexia got engaged. She's their oldest daughter. Farrah is from her first marriage, and she worked at the agency, and she had a big engagement party, and Lisa Rinna went and who else was in the photo that I saw? Dorit. Dorit was there and Kyle, and they were all looking gorgeous. And so, yeah, of course she invited Dorit, it's appropriate to invite Doritos. The show is gonna start filming soon. I don't know if there's anyone new or if they're all coming back, but obviously Dorit and Kyle are not going anywhere, so. And maybe, probably Alexia is like, no, I'd rather have Dorit there. Like, you know, like, I don't need PK and his new girlfriend from Survivor there. It's her day, so I'm sure it's whoever Alexia, the bride to be wanted. So that was cool. And then the younger daughter is no longer working for the agency. Yeah, it's not that fun being a realtor. It's a lot of hard work, and especially if there's not cameras following you around, the open house gets real fucking boring. Okay, here is a photo of me. A lot of people are doing these. Someone did it for me. It's an AI thing. And it's Heather McDonald as a standup comedian, podcaster, Barbie. And, I mean, I love what they chose, which was like, a mic, a coffee cup, an iPhone, sunglasses, headphones. Though I don't use those big headphones for podcasts. A book. The Real Housewives script. Cute, but just, like, not my face at all. But anyway. And not the kind of outfit I'd really wear, but it's like a typical standup outfit. It's like skinny jeans. Oh, my God, I just realized she's wearing sensible brown pumps. Okay, now I love it. Now I get how funny it is. But anyway, thank you for making that for me. Speaking of divorce, Nikki Garcia. She was a famous female wrestler who had a big reality show with her sister called the Bella Sisters, and she dated a famous actor named John Cena, but they broke up because she wanted kids and he didn't. Well, then she falls in love with Artem Shigvinsk. Sev. Whatever. And he's a Russian dancer, and they have a child. Well, they break up. There's claims of domestic violence. Anyway, they dropped all of that. They are divorced. And she has to pay him 200,000 lump sum and 3,500amonth in child support per month because she must make more money. But, I mean, she probably makes the money off of brand deals, and I guess she still does the wrestling, but it's just such a weird thing that she's the. She's the wrestler and he's the dancer, and then she has to pay him the child support. Just like. It's not great. Well, you guys, there's still so many more topics, and I'm very excited because I have a great guest. I don't want to say who it is because you're just going to get too excited when I tell you on Thursday. So we'll cover all those topics that I'm actually saving for him to go over and it's going to be so fun. And remember, just go to heathermcdonald.net, join that Patreon and there's so much extra content on there that you can just listen to me even more. Thank you. Love you. Bye.
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