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Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald
Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag on the LA Fires, Hollywood, and The Hills
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- [00:01]
Spencer Pratt
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Heidi Montag
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Heather McDonald
I'm Mal and I am a Texas raised lesbian. It took me 28 years to come out of the closet and once I did, I had so many questions. How do I flirt with women? Am I the one that needs to initiate sex? Why did it take me so long to figure out that I'm gay? And my video podcast made it out is my journey to answering all of these questions and so many more that have come up since. Every Tuesday I sit down with a different queer woman to deep dive into their lived experience and mine. And together we share the highs, the lows, occasionally the same exact. Join us every Tuesday on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts. As we all get closer to learning more about ourselves and each other.
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Heidi Montag
Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She tops Hollywood tales For real life, Mr. Sacred, cereal data and Cereal Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Hannah McDonald's juicy scoop.
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Heather McDonald
Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I want to thank everybody that has reached out for wondering how I am doing and my family is doing in the LA fires. We are very fortunate that our community, our immediate area, has not been affected. And thank you so much for everything you've done for LA in general. I have a really incredible interview with our good friend Spencer Pratt and his beautiful wife, Heidi Montag. And it is incredible. He takes us from how the fire started, what happened, what he has found out, what investigations are going on, how Hollywood has treated him, then versus now, and what's the future holding. And then Heidi comes in and we really talk about what it's been for her as a mother of a young child, young children that have, you know, no longer have a community. And we get into the music and she also spills some juice about the hills that I've never heard before. So I really think you're gonna love this interview. I know you are. And they are also really grateful for all the Juicy Scoopers who have supported them and everyone in la. So here is Heidi and Spencer. Thank you. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. You guys have been so concerned about our greatest Juicy Scooper ever, Spencer Pratt and his beautiful wife Heidi and their two boys. And you are here. Spencer. Thank you so much for taking the time and talking to me today. I love you so much.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Thank you so much for texting and, you know, doing everything you can more than anybody else, no matter what people try to say in the comments section. It's just so. Thank you.
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Heather McDonald
Well, for those of you, you know, that are just catching up, you lost your home to the fire in the Palisades. The entire Palisades town is gone. The school is gone, the high school's gone, your parents home is gone. And is that the home you grew up in? Correct.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Correct.
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Heather McDonald
And so before we get into then, how you made lemonade out of the worst thing that's ever happened in you and your family's life. Losing your homes in a scary fire. I just want to ask you a little bit like about that day, like Tuesday. So the wind started and just kind of like walk us through of like what happened and when you realized that you guys just have to get out of there.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
So. One of my most annoying superpowers that I've had for as long as I can remember is I only have a psychic power for when something bad is going to happen. So the night before and I never had this feeling before, so which is just haunts me. And it's like now I'm like, oh my gosh. Like I was told like by whatever the universe, spirits, angel, whatever you want to believe, Sixth Sense. I was told this fire was coming because I looked out the window because our kid had Gunner and Riker had like back and forth 104 degree temperatures. So we were up for like two weeks straight. Like just insane. So that night I was up so late and I'm watching the wind in out by our like bamboo and I. I'm up late a lot. So I know like the level of wind and this was like spooky. And I just had this feeling. I was like, if a fire starts right now, like it's a wrap, like we're done. And this is at three in the morning. And then I went to bed and never thought about it again. And then since Heidi hadn't slept in like realistically two weeks, we. And our nanny was, you know, because it'd been Christmas break for three weeks, we had no help. She finally came in town. So she took our youngest one, Riker, the two year old for a hike on our trail behind our house. She runs inside and she's like, the workers that are building that house said to get out. You know, there's a fire on the hill. And I'm like, huh? You know, like we have all these alerts and I feel like my mom knows everything on next door that ever exists and ring and everything. So if there was a fire, I would know. So I, I just like, okay, you know, I'll go run and look. So I run up to the top of this hill where we always hang out with the kids on this trail. And I see the smoke, but it's far enough away that I call Heidi. I'm like, I think we're good. You know, this, the planes could come or it didn't look end of the world level devastation because people are messaging me like, why didn't you get a U Haul, like, if you saw a fire? Well, first off, there's always evacuations in the palaces. We've probably evacuated three or four times. It's just to be cautious. I don't know why they do it, but it's, you know, it's. We've done that before where you pack your couple, you know, passports and an overnight bag, and it's all good, right? So I stayed on this hill, and my dad calls me and he's like, what's going on with this fire? And I'm like, oh, it's on the hill, I think, you know, like, it's pretty far back there. The planes are just showing up. So two planes showed up, and they were dip going into the water, and they were hitting. And I was like, they're doing a good job. And my dad's like, I'm going to leave work and come. So my dad comes up to this hill, and we're just sitting there watching, and they're doing a great job with these two planes. And then, you know, I see the. So we live on this. Our house had. We had a house near this water tower. And I saw. I don't know if it's DWP or whatever. And there was this big tower that I have seen on TV where the helicopters dip the things in. I'm like, oh, we're good. Because I'm watching them opening it up and all the water's coming. I'm yelling, that's full. And they're like, yeah, it's good to go. So I'm like, oh, the helicopter is going to come dip its thing in there and just be right there and protecting the house some. I tell Heidi, like, you know, pack some stuff, like, just to leave. I think we'll be good. And it's still, you know, I don't know the time. It's probably on my Snapchat, like, because I was snapping it, like, getting content. Not like. Like, now would have been packing our whole existence, right? No, like, it wasn't. Didn't feel that extreme.
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Heather McDonald
This is Tuesday. This is Tuesday afternoon.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Yeah, yeah. Now it's getting later. You know, I feel like I was out there for hours just, like, watching, like, they were doing good, saying, like, so much. I need to find some other words that's messing my brain. And so the planes were coming.
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Heather McDonald
You felt good about them.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
And then the planes left. And this is where. You know, I know Juicy Scoop loves a good conspiracy.
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Heather McDonald
They do.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
So my neighbor who's connected with law enforcement and whoever said that they. The planes left because Biden was flying in a town and there was a flight restriction. The fire department or whoever said, no, it was because it got too windy. I was on this hill where, realistically, I could have thrown an egg and hit these planes for hours. So, like, I have the gauge of how windy it is. These pilots could have kept flying if people were shooting rockets at them. They were the. Like, these dudes were top gun. You know, there was. So there's. My conspiracy, obviously, is. Lot of people are going to be investigating, getting to the bottom of it. But it is a strange coincidence that that was the defining moment. So when those planes left, it just starts coming like. Like a. Like a lava down the hill. So then I start calling 91 1, and they connect me to the fire department. They're like, I'm afraid we have no assets. I'm like, we can stop this. Like, this is a trail. If it comes past this trail, then it starts hitting the houses. One fire truck. And the most frustrating part about all this is just killing me is after this last Malibu thing that happened, like, three weeks ago, I had multiple friends. They're all part of the Malibu brigade, that they got their own hoses, their own jackets, and they saved all their houses. So I'm hearing this, and I'm like, telling my dad, we got to get these fire hoses, because I have a hydrant right there, and I'll hook up. I'm telling them this, like, a month ago, and I just didn't order it. And I was like, I'll leave it right here, and I'll have my own firehouse. But I didn't do it because, you know, Heidi and I always work out right on that street. And I would say at least once a week, the fire department comes onto our street because we have the reservoir. They do the drill. They hook up. So I was so confident always, that, you know, we have unlimited water. There's this big. You know, maybe it's empty. I don't know. And that's the secret. But I thought we had this reservoir.
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Heather McDonald
So now you know that that reservoir was empty.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
So that's the one in the Highlands. We have one on Chautauqua.
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Heather McDonald
Oh, okay.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
So I saw them filling up water. There was enough water to definitely stop what was coming down the trail, because I was looking at the top of it on this thing, and it was, like, coming out of it. I have a video of it, and so that they're like, we have no assets. And then I tell Heidi like get everything you want. And, and she, you know, she blacked out obviously and didn't get anything she wanted. Which you know, is just how.
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Heather McDonald
What did you guys grab? I saw that you grabbed. She grabbed Gunner's little.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
She got the tooth fairy.
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Heather McDonald
The, the tooth fairy thing.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
We got her. The te. The tooth Fairy got the teeth. Yes, we got his teeth. We got their two little bears. I got my Heidi shirts, some shorts, socks. I got one backpack full of crystals which. Here's the craziest part about your brain I have probably, realistically I want to say a number but just right on this one thing. Probably at least a hundred thousand dollars of my crystal pendants that I've kept. The best ones. All my tourmalines aquas. And instead of just going like this, scooping them all in the backpack and taking them, like oh, I don't want to scratch them and crack them and break them. Because I was not accepting that our house was just going to be gone. So now I just cannot stop thinking about how stupid I feel that I had a backpack and I could just gone whoosh. And then I like maybe some made it, maybe they didn't, but now none of those. You know, I always kept the best of my necklaces for myself. And that's the other part. It's like I wish I just sold them so once. Then my dad, he wouldn't leave. He like had a real like I'd have to talk to a psychiatrist and ask him how to describe. I think he was like in a trance. And so I'm screaming at my dad because the flames are the size of now.
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Heather McDonald
How far is your dad's house from you?
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
So we're up on the hill, which I always knew, like, oh, it could be fire danger but fire trucks could stop it. You know, there's enough cement before so I was confident. But where they live, it's the end of town. Like so far. Like our, the house that was there because he had no insurance on a single dollar. And I said, why not dad? He's like, our house is a hundred and thirty years old. If our house were to burn down, that would mean the whole town were to burn down. And I was like, well dad, you know. So that's how like I want to. Heidi evacuated to my parents house initially. Oh, that's like, that's how crazy it would be for the fire to go from where it was to my parents house. So she went with the kids and the suitcases that we grabbed and evacuated to my parents house that burned down to Nothing.
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Heather McDonald
And then how long were you at your parents before all of you guys?
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
So I never met them. I was like. So she was at my parents house. And my older sister calls and she's like, what are you guys doing there? Because no, we weren't watching the news because of the 104 degree temperature. We're watching Garfield or whatever because Gunner is so sick on the couch and I might keep calling. I'm like, put the news on. She's like, I can't, Gunner. I'm like, so we don't know that the fire is now wrapped around and coming into the town and coming in from like Pali High and like. And coming from the side of my parents house. So once my older sister called and said, get out of there. Heidi loaded up and just started driving to Santa Barbara. And I stayed at my house on the hill because my dad would not leave. And he's like, I'm gonna put this out. I'm like, what are you talking about, dad? He's like, I fought three fires and in Malibu, when I lived in Malibu in the, you know, 30 years. I'm like, you're 70 plus, this is a forest fire now. Like this is not like your next door neighbor. And so he lost it. I was screaming at him like I had to put him in his car. And then we leave and we go off and I'm looking at my cameras to see if the virus. And I see my dad pull back up to the house and getting out the garden hose and just these flames and he's just like, post like this. The water's spitting at this fire like. And he's. And I'm. And he's not picking up his phone.
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Heather McDonald
Oh my God.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
I'm just like. So the good thing about him doing this to me is it took away the fact that our house was burning down because I was like, my dad is going to die and he's clearly lost the plot. So it took my mind off of the actual situation, like the possessions in the house. And it was more of like, my dad's gonna die. And so finally I get him to leave my house. No, the flames surrounded him and he, I think finally was. He said flight or flight kicked in. And he's like, the flight part was more than. So I thought he like he, he made it like his brain was working. But then he drives to his house where now the entire town is on fire. He's. The firefighters aren't even there. There's no firefighters. It's my dad and I'm calling A hundred times. I'm calling my mom. Nobody can reach him. I call 91 1, and they're like, oh, that is. I'm sorry, sir. Whatever. I'm not misquoting him. There's no longer anyone can drive to that at, like, those streets are done. We can't.901 can't even go get him. So finally he picks up. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm doing a good job. I'm just hitting it. I'm like, you're gonna die. He's like. He's like, I'm gonna jump in the pool. So wait, let me.
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Heather McDonald
Wait, let me just get it crazy. So he first went to your house while you guys left. You're watching the cameras. And he goes back thinking he could save your house. Then he gets in the car. Heidi, the kids, your mom are no longer in the Palisades, and neither are you. Then he goes back to his own house and is trying to save that house. And his plan was to jump in the pool.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
He said, I can't. We can't lose two houses. Damn. Like, it's done. Like, dad, you're gonna. And, you know, I don't know.
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Heather McDonald
So then he finally got in his car and left to the point.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
He said cars were blowing up next to him as he was driving. Fiery trash cans are hitting the car. He said, like, Armageddon. Like, he admitted that he should be dead. You know, he still. Obviously, they're my parents. That's the saddest part, because they look like we got some bears and some shirts and they got nothing out of their house. Like, my mom did not think she was never coming back. She didn't even get a go back. No keys, no nothing. No, not up. So my mom is really having a hard time. Really hard time.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Like crazy. Like, it's. It's kind of scary.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah. Because especially, you know, you had said, you know, I don't have any kids pictures or I don't have anything before iPhones. But you do have your kids on your iPhone. Your mom, all her baby pictures, all her giving birth pictures, all of your memories are not on an iPhone. And she doesn't have any of that.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
No. Like, my mom, my older sister harassed my mom for being a hoarder. Because I joke that she's just a collector. She has kept everything that is ever connected to her kids. We're talking ticket stubs, movie theater cups from the certain movie. I mean, I'm talking to the point where she could have been on like hoarders. But it's all things that are connected to our lives, right?
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Heather McDonald
You know, like sentimental.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Yeah. My room there was like I said, it was like a time capsule. I could go in there, my drawers. Everything was like being in Back to the Future. Everything is untouched. And it's just her whole life was hanging out in that house and texting me photos as of, like, things to remind me, remember this, remember that. For the last, I want to say solid eight years. It's all my mom does is just send me to the point where, like, that's the annoying thing that's like, oh my God. But it's now my. Thank God she texted any of these things because now I'm worried I deleted her freaking text. I'm gonna have time.
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Heather McDonald
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
So no, we, we had farmers for like eight years with full coverage.
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Heather McDonald
You and Heidi?
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Yeah, like, paying it. My dad never had anything because he said, but we had that and they just dropped everybody, I don't know, right after the. I'll get the exact date. You know, because some people are like, they did it last month. It wasn't last month because we've been fighting and I've been taking photos and cutting trees just to get this California fair plan that covers nothing. I mean, our. It's not covering my water filter set up in the house. You know, we put so much money in this house. It's like, oh, like we're going to fix the four wall. It's so when people are like, oh, you have no, we, we put everything in this house. We wouldn't need real insurance cover. I mean, I had $2 million in crystals there. That's not on California fair plan or whatever.
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Heather McDonald
And I can understand, I know people are like, how did your dad not have insurance? I'm guessing they owned their house. Okay. Outright. So therefore a mortgage isn't demanding that they have it. And then the price was probably so high that he, my dad, it was.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Doesn'T even pay, doesn't want to pay for the newspaper. My dad gets coffee at McDonald's. My dad eats a Taco Bell three days a week for dinner. Like, he's not like Spencer Pratt.
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Heather McDonald
Yeah.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
He's the polar opposite. So like he said, why would I have fire insurance on a house? Is 125 years old. There's never been any fires that's been anywhere near that house.
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Heather McDonald
And so. So now all of you guys are your parents near you, near your house?
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
I just did a post. They're in some apartment in Santa Monica. My mom says, like, five people above her flushing the toilet all night long. She can't sleep, she can't walk her dogs. So we're in their rental place and I'm paying them rent, so. So that they can pay for all their stuff. So it's just like.
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Heather McDonald
It's just such a nightmare.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
No, it's worse than a nightmare.
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Heather McDonald
No, I know. I mean, I'm very lucky. I've lived in my area of Woodland Hills basically my whole life. Cause I bought the house next door to my parents. And the night of the. Of Tuesday night, I, in all of my years had never heard the wind that loud. And like, our, like, patio furniture being thrown around, like, I never. So I do think there's a lot of mismanagement, horrible mistakes that happened. But also, you know, the wind was like something I've never experienced. And we're just so lucky that it didn't come near us.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
So I never thought I'd be shouting out the LA Times because, you know, they're not, you know. But the LA Times just did a whole piece this morning. I read it, and it was about how they knew this wind was the here, and they chose not to pre deploy all these fire and water pumps that they had on deck, and they chose not to. And so this is like, it's not the New York Post. I love the New York Post. Or this is the LA Times, who usually is like, hey, you know, it's very.
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Heather McDonald
Right.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Getting political, but Right if they're coming for that. So that right there is just. Also, I have videos of my friends trying to save their houses. Another reason why I'm glad I didn't save Stay, but. And there's no water coming out of even the faucet. Yeah, they're showing like, I have a friend as a video. There's just a little fire in his little courtyard area. He's showing no waters coming out of the thing. That little fire. Boom. Right to the house tire. House down.
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Heather McDonald
Wow.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
All right. He's got the whole video, so. So, you know, and we're talking little. Like a hose could have put it out. No water, just right to the house. Done.
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Heather McDonald
And he was in your area as well?
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Yeah, just down the street.
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Heather McDonald
And then, you know, then of course, people are aware that we've had arsonists.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Oh, 100%. This was started. There's no been. It's not even a maybe. Like, there's no power line. Like, there's just. I've been saying we go on hikes every single day. That's all we do as a family, is hike these trails. And every day, I'm like, vigilant, looking at all these suspicious type people coming now into the palaces. Because Temescal Canyon has this parking lot. And everybody parks now on Temescal. And it turned into Runyon Canyon. Like, if you don't know what Runyon Canyon is, it's in Hollywood. And just every single person on earth. Like, when I grew up, these trails were only people in the Palisades. You didn't know about them. They were very. It was low key. You'd be the only person on trail. Now it's like walking on the grove or the promenade. It's ridiculous. So there's no way somebody didn't start these. I will take that. There's no lightning in the sky. There was no. All sudden, rocks banged into each other. This was lit. And it's 100%. It's a fact. I don't care what anybody says.
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Heather McDonald
Well, not too far from me. This guy was on a bicycle with a blowtorch. I don't know if you saw that video. And the two dads in the neighborhood citizen arrested him. And so they caught him. And then there were articles saying that they let him out. And I'm like, I can't keep track of all this stuff because I know. And then I just saw another video TMZ put up of a very suspicious guy.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Topanga.
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Heather McDonald
Topanga Canyon. And, you know, a neighbor there was filming it and asking questions. And it's like, you know, it's time for the Karens and the Kens to come out of the woodwork again, because see something, say something. And not, you know, I was always the see something, say something. I remember, like, years ago, I saw a guy, like, smoking and talking about kind of terrorist stuff at the end of my thing where our street backs up to Santa Monica mountains, too. And when I called, I remember I called 911 and I said the whole thing. And they were so, like, rude and, like, not coming and not caring. And I'm like, this guy is smoking and doing this thing where it's all dry. And, you know, and then I told the story, like, with Dr. Drew or something on a podcast, and someone's sheriff husband, like, tried to contact me and was like, wait, when was that? Where was that? And I'm like, well I'm glad that you care but like what are you supposed to do when you, when you see something, say something and then you're called like a racist.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
A Karen or whatever?
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Heather McDonald
Yeah, a Karen or a racist. Because you're like, look, I'm not saying throw away the key, but like could you just check out this kind of weird situation that's happening? Like it's, it's just terrible.
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Spencer Pratt's Dad
Well, my thing, obviously I've been drinking white wine and I thought about it the other day on, on Tick Tock Live. But the reality of these trails is if you're not a local and you care about the community, you should have to have a, like a, a pass to go there where they know you. Like if these trails have the potential to burn entire cities, they should have park ranger check ins. You buy a yearly pass, they have your ID, you scan in. Because we have TSA, we're worried about airplanes. With 300 people we're going getting naked and going through body scans. But anyone can just behind our houses with gasoline or a torch and burn a whole city down. So just how unsecure these trails were just is mind boggling to me. But initially in that morning, you know, obviously things are all said. But we heard people saying that Palisades patrol somebody said they saw a guy with two gas canisters. So you know, that was the initial. So obviously the FBI, all these people are investigating. They're not going to tell what's out there for real. But you know, I think there's crazy stuff's going to come out.
- [31:29]
Heather McDonald
Well, I think that's a great point, you know, to have more security in the future for something like that. And you're right, you know, we do it for the planes and everything where they know every single person going on the plane, but not this. I do feel like forever LA will be pre2024 fire and post 2020. You know, people will go well before the fire and before that, like I think it's going to be like that for people that have lived in LA their whole life that end up staying here. We'll see a real division of like history.
- [32:02]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Oh, I mean I was already pretty much like, like neighborhood watch. Like I felt this coming. Shout out. The 90 year old lady, Calliope, she's still alive. She's not living in our next door house and now burned down this Greek lady. And when we moved there she made me like her lieutenant and she was like, they're going to burn down the whole town. You need to stop these people from going on these trails. She's always telling me, watch them. And she would be out on the block, and she was the most badass old lady. And I got her energy, and I was like, she's right. So, like, when I would see these kids, you know, people say, there's kids. I don't think this was kids. It was arsonist. But she was worried because people go party up there. It's too early in the day. So I think it was an arsonist. If this had been at night, you know, these teenagers were having their little beers and maybe they're smoking joints or whatever. So at nighttime I could go along. But this is 10 in the morning. This the high wind. This is somebody who saw the news. Biggest wind event ever. I'm going to go light the whole fricking city on fire.
- [33:07]
Heather McDonald
Well, let's switch gears to the lemonade that you have made out of the lemons that you were dealt. What, when and where. Oh, also, people are saying, make sure that Spencer gets into a sauna every day to detox the smoke.
- [33:24]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Our sauna burned down. So tell them, well, if there's.
- [33:28]
Heather McDonald
Okay, someone with a sauna, I know they make them. I actually sell them at Costco. I know that there's individual smaller ones.
- [33:35]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
It's funny. I'll get a Sonic.
- [33:38]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, that would be great. But when did you get the thought of. Because I remember I texted you. You know, we were texting, and I just said, you know, there's gofundmes and stuff. And I want to. But I don't want it to be the wrong link or have something be corrupt. And all you said was, tell them to stream Heidi's music. Also go to Pratt Daddy for the crystals. And so I did that. But what made you think, wait a minute, I have to. That this is something people can do for free to help us and let's see where it goes. Like, I want to know your. When you thought of it. Like, I want to know your whole thought process of promoting Heidi. And did you ever imagine it would be this six days later?
- [34:25]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
No. I mean, it was just. We're at zero. So the panic in Heidi's face of, like, she couldn't breathe and knowing, like, we have no, like, we put all our money into this house to, like, have our sons. Like, we always joke, like, we're building every detail into this house so we can leave them this and just pay off this mortgage. And we joked how they were going to divide the House. Like, who gets the top floor, who gets the bottom? And again, it's a 3,000 square foot house. It's not this, like mansion, you know, it only was valued at that at Zillow recently. It was not valued at like that before the Palisades turned into, you know, oh, all the movie stars were there. But that's why I keep telling people the Palisades was not, you know, growing up, all my friends were not rich. There is the Alphabet streets that all the movie stars and people live in now was, I'm not kidding, like the hood. You know, you drive. Oh, you're gonna get beat up going through the Alphabet streets like this where all the scary people live. You know, so it's just so funny, which is so whatever. But I was just read zero and there's only like, I've come on your podcast a million times, and it's like, there's only a few things I can do to make income, sell our crystals or stream IDs music. So that's just like what I already have been saying. And, you know, this. This time there was a bigger platform.
- [35:44]
Heather McDonald
And so with the music, because I thought, okay, so the. The song that we're all hearing that I'll be here, you know, I'll be your blonde tonight. That's.
- [35:54]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
I'll do it.
- [35:55]
Heather McDonald
I'll do it. Now, did the all that all do it was part of the album from 15 years ago, or is that a newer song? Because I thought that was a newer song.
- [36:04]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
No, that's the. That's the song. Like when I have come on the podcast before. Yeah, like in China, it's blowing up. That's the song blew up in China. So that's 15 years old. So.
- [36:14]
Heather McDonald
So this is all. So all of her music is from when you guys did this album 15 years ago.
- [36:20]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Now there's some, like, five new songs since I've been coming on your podcast.
- [36:24]
Heather McDonald
Right. That's what I thought.
- [36:25]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Yeah, I'll do it was good. And I was saying for the algorithm, you got to make new songs to keep pushing the old songs. So, you know, now we have newer songs just to, like, keep the old ones alive.
- [36:38]
Heather McDonald
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- [37:45]
Spencer Pratt
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- [39:04]
Heather McDonald
Hey, everybody. My name is Bob the drag queen. And I'm Monet X Change and we are the hosts of Sibling rivalry. This is the podcast where two best friends gab, talk smack and have a lot of fun with our black queer selves. Yeah, for sure. And you know, we are family, so we talk about everything, honey, from why we don't like hugs to black lives Matter to interracial dating, to other things. Right, Bob?
- [39:29]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Yes.
- [39:29]
Heather McDonald
And it gets messy, and we are not afraid to be wrong. So please join us over here at silverbriby, available anywhere you get your podcast. You can listen and subscribe for free.
- [39:41]
Spencer Pratt
For free, honey.
- [39:47]
Heather McDonald
And so everybody starts streaming it. Loving it, you know, because there are so many good pops beats. It's all in our heads now. And then you got some really exciting in, like, people coming that wants to collaborate, like, weird. Tell me the exciting stuff that's happening. I've heard pit bull.
- [40:07]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Yeah, the problem with the exciting stuff is all these people are so secretive, and, like, once it's official, they don't want you to talk. And I'm like, I need things to talk about that are positive. Like, that's cool for you, 200 millionaire that you can save the good news for. Oh, let's put that out later. My. So that's a little frustrating. There's a lot of, like, incredible things happening, and I'm. And they're like, oh, no, you can't talk about it. What? This is it. We talk about it now or, you know, or never. But. So that's annoying. There are some, like, huge things that could, you know. I guess one thing I've learned is you never know what's going to happen, so.
- [40:49]
Heather McDonald
Well, one thing that I think is so great about you is, like, you know, of course we all watched Heidi and Spencer and Spidey and, you know, being famous and the most hated, you know, couple on reality tv, the most hated man seeing old videos of the casts of the Hills, warning Heidi to not be involved with you and everything. And. And then I remember the first time you came on Juicy Scoop, and it really was because someone sent me a hummingbird video. And I feel so lucky that I got to go to your house and put on the hummingbird. The hummingbird hat and everything.
- [41:25]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
They're all gone.
- [41:29]
Heather McDonald
And I remember you came and you're like, oh, I got here early, and I went over to Gelson's hoping that someone would recognize me, but nobody does. And you were so, like, right away, I just clicked with your humor. I just think you're so naturally funny. And I remember the first time I had you on the show, people were like, what are you doing having him on your show? And blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, through the last few years, with you being so active on Snapchat and TikTok and doing, you know, my show and having your own show, like, people now realize that you really are just a Good family guy in love with his wife. Funny and brutally honest. And you have people's back and you are loyal. And so how does it feel now to have all these people? Like, now you guys are the most popular kids in the school again on the Internet. And all these people being like, I always loved Heidi and Spencer, but maybe you never heard from them in the last five years. Like, what is it doing? I mean, I feel it's all positive, it's all good, but there's got to be a little bit of that. Like, now it's cool to be, you know.
- [42:34]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
You know, that's this, like, emotional. I can't even enjoy it because it's like. Like last night I was on a call with the president of a record label. Like, they're talking about signing Heidi, and then, you know, my mom's calling me, and I think she sounds so emotional. I'm like, did she just have a stroke? She's not, like, finishing her sentences and she's like, so. So it's like the. Like, anytime I get, like, the moment of joy, it's just, like, so robbed from me. So it's like, that's why I joked today. So an interview. I was like, I feel like I'm in purgatory. Like, it's like heaven and hell. It's like, oh, your dreams are come true. You're the most famous person ever. Everywhere you go and all these opportunities are coming, but it's like, oh, your whole world burned down and everything you loved and cherished. And even now, with all this success, like, well, I can't go to my favorite anything. I can't drop Gunner off at karate. I can't go to tinkering where I'm not waiting in line for this pickup with all the parents I've known now since preschool, and they're all moved. So it's like, it's just this. It's like, so amazing and so horrible because I'd rather a guy who's happy enough how little fame I had with, like, my life. So it's like, yeah, it's like, don't get me wrong, if, like, I keep joking, if Heidi becomes a. A global pop superstar and I have $200 million, maybe I'll be in Hawaii. Like, yeah, this. This is. I'll figure it out. And my mom's there, my dad, and like, if it goes to that level. But one thing I've learned about fame is, like, in a week, this could be over. And it was like, oh, like, I was so famous for a week and there was positivity and I. Now I'm back to, you know, so I've already was so famous and it went away. So I already know what that feels like. So I. It's hard to even get excited that there is that light and opportunity. So, yeah, all these people are so nice now. But in a week, Taylor Swift's new album comes out. She has a baby with Travis. Kelsey. The news shifts and, you know, we're back to having no house and our friends have no house. So it's just. It's so amazing and just so awful. It's just the worst. Like. Like, you'll be, like, savvy and you'll just be crying. So. But yes, it's, you know, I don't care if all these people hated me and now they say they love me. That's great.
- [45:01]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, take. Take all the love.
- [45:03]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
I don't. You know, but it is funny when certain people take so long, you know, that, you know, there's people I've had to actually text, like, hey, you know, and I'm texting them, and it just shows me. And then they eventually do it after, like, being pretty much bullied into. I'm like, what to post Heidi song, like, so it already had a very small circle, but it definitely got smaller after this experience.
- [45:31]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, I think, you know, when you go through. I mean, I've gone through some stuff much, much nothing like this, you know, but, you know, you were one of those people that, you know, you were one of those people that was like, no, bullshit, you're my friend. Like, fuck all these people. And when you saw the people that weren't good to me, you didn't take a photo with them and post it, you know, you turned away and you, like, you stay really true to who you are and who you know are good people. And so to me, like, I am so happy that everyone is seeing you for who you are and always has been, which is a wonderful husband, dad and son and friend, you know, because people should know that and, you know, a neighbor and everything else and that, you know, this was your town that you grew up in. And it was the most. I always said it was the most idyllic place to live. It wasn't on the beach, but you got the breeze. You didn't get the fog, but you were closer to the city. It. It. It was so beautiful, but it wasn't pretentious.
- [46:42]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
It was.
- [46:43]
Heather McDonald
It was such a special place.
- [46:45]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
You know, the Palisades always say to me, you know, especially California haters, Like, why do you live in California? Why do you live in la? Why don't you move? And I always say, I don't live there, I live in the Palisades because to me it was like this utopia. And again, people don't get like, I grew up there, I went to preschool there, I know everyone. So then when like haters are like, he's not doing anything for anybody but himself. Like, do you know how many group chats I'm on with like every single person that lost their house? And these like, so just the, that's why you just know there's arsonists. Because the level of just demons in the comment section is just there are monsters on this earth. I'm like, so I have no doubt there's people will burn a whole town down just based off of the frequency you read in these comments sections. So that's just the thing, that is just like the town was perfect and, and now I am like, you know, even if we get a couple hundred million dollars and how he's the biggest star in the world, like what are we going to do? Like, is it worth living in California if I'm not in the Palisades? And that's what we keep on, you know, I almost got attacked last night in Santa Barbara in a Mexican restaurant. That would never happen to me. Some guy tried to fight. I was just doing a tick tock in a closed restaurant and this guy starts threatening me. He's going to beat me up, come outside. And it's like, that would never happen in the Palisades. That would never happen in my Don Antonio's. So just being out of my safe zone, I'm already just not even a week into it and people are trying to threaten me and beat me up for no reason, you know.
- [48:20]
Heather McDonald
Wait, was that, that guy knew that? Who you?
- [48:23]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
No, I don't even know you knew. I think he was just a crazy dude.
- [48:26]
Heather McDonald
Just a crazy person.
- [48:27]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Okay.
- [48:28]
Heather McDonald
Yeah, yeah. Well, I want to talk to Heidi too. Is she available?
- [48:34]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Okay, thank you. Juicy scoopers.
- [48:36]
Heather McDonald
I love you.
- [48:37]
Spencer Pratt's Dad
Love all of you back.
- [48:38]
Heather McDonald
And you, Heidi, first of all, you look very young and well rested for what you've been through. You have no makeup on, but the hair looks cute and you look like you're 21.
- [48:49]
Heidi Montag
Thanks, I'll just rock with it. Cause this is what I got.
- [48:52]
Heather McDonald
So I, you know, got the harrowing story of the last week of your life from your husband Spencer. But I wanna switch the gears to some of the joy that's come from the tragedy which is so you did this album 15 years ago, and I remember when you guys did that first video on the beach where he filmed you and you sang that song higher, Higher. Because we saw it. It was like one of the early years of when I was on Chelsea Lately. And we did a parody of it. And I got a peach tank kitty. I didn't want to wear a bikini, so. Cause I think my son was about one and a half at the time. So I wore a peach tank kini and met our producer at the beach in, like, Malibu and on those same type of rocks. And he filmed me and I was, like, doing it. And it was so early on that we. I think I got a million views on YouTube, our parody of you guys. And of course, I didn't know you until the last, like, five years that I've known you, like, personally. But in seeing everybody excited for you and playing your music and stuff, I think it's amazing. But also what I think, like, the Internet world is falling in love with is you guys as a couple who have been together so long. And I'm seeing all these clips from the hills of people saying, you know, heidi, get away from Spencer. He's evil. And I kind of want to ask you, like, what was that like back then? And what told you that? He'swhat? How did you know not to believe those people? And you knew the soul of the man that would be your husband and father of your two boys.
- [50:44]
Heidi Montag
That was, besides this, the most difficult thing. You know, I really risked everything for Spencer then, and he was new to my world, you know, So I had these friends and I had these people. And, you know, at first everyone liked Spencer, right? And everyone loved Spencer and he was great when Lauren and I were double dating and all this stuff. And then when Lauren decided nobody can like Spencer anymore, then everyone kind of hopped on that train. And I do see a part of where they were coming from because Spencer and I started scripting things and no one was doing that in the show yet, you know, And Spencer and I would talk about it and then I would see it and I really would get upset, even though he's like, okay, well, is it cool? Should I, like, come in and make drama with some girls? I'm like, yeah, totally, like, trying to be all cool, you know, like, sure, definitely, let's do it, you know? And then you see and you're like, oh, my gosh, I'm actually not cool with this. And now I'm really upset. And I was pretending to be upset. So that was in the early onset of it and they. Everyone just didn't like the. The produced segments. Right. And then they didn't like that we teamed up and we were really a team and it became the cast and then Spencer and I. And so everybody wanted like a different agenda. But I always knew Spencer and I fell in love with him the night I met him. He just has this charismatic, charming, smart, sexy, cool, confident. I mean, he's just like that guy. Everybody loves Spencer, right? Like in the clubs and back then he was like a. It sought after bachelor and it was known like, oh, Spencer doesn't want a girlfriend. I was like, I got this. You know, so I just loved Spencer from the minute. And he. I've always Spencer and Noni as the biggest heart, you know.
- [52:43]
Heather McDonald
Did you have a moment like, you know, like out of a movie and you met him? Did you have a feeling like this is it? Was it that kind of a thing?
- [52:51]
Heidi Montag
Oh, yeah, for me it was. It was like love at first sight. Obsessed with him. I mean, I had dated a few guys, you know, so I feel like I had a good gauge of.
- [53:01]
Heather McDonald
But how old were you when you met him?
- [53:03]
Heidi Montag
I was 19.
- [53:06]
Heather McDonald
That is crazy.
- [53:07]
Heidi Montag
Yeah. And I just fell madly in love with him and it was so different and it was hard for me to like stay interested in certain guy, you know what I mean? But I met Spencer, I was just obsessed with him and it just was like a soul connection for me and I really fell in love with him and it was worth risking everything. And people just didn't understand and the cast didn't understand. And then once Lauren turned, everyone had to side with her anyways. And it was just, it was hard to navigate. But for me, it was worth risking everything. And you know, I'm. I have a deep faith and I really prayed about it a lot and I was like, all right, God, like, am I making this up? Is this the love of my life? Like, if not, then, you know, let me know. And I always felt in my heart and my soul, like, no, this is, this is it. This is your person. Like that's. It's worth the risk.
- [53:57]
Heather McDonald
And I think what people are really seeing, even in small little Snapchats, I saw somebody put together a video of it, said all the times Spencer, here's a mirage or whatever. Here's a collage of all the times Spencer has shown his being obsessed with Heidi. And it was someone just put together all these little things of him just like saying things and like the subtle things that now I feel like, you know, People love to see that with other couples. It gives them hope. Like, can I have something like that? That kind of dedication. And so, you know, being that you guys both were TV people and he was really one before you because he was doing the Princes of Malibu and wanting to be a producer, how did you guys come with? Like, wait a minute. You know, you like to sing. You're gorgeous. Why can't you be the next pop star? And let's put our money into it and make it happen. When you guys did the album 15 years ago, like, how did that come about? What kind of discussion was going on between the two of you?
- [55:03]
Heidi Montag
I actually started doing music before I met Spencer. So right when the Hills started, I was in, like, voice lessons, and I had a music manager, and I was going more down that, like, Ashley Simpson route. And Spencer's like, is this the type of music you want to do? And I was like, no, I want to do pop. But this manager saying, you know, and I. Everyone had their parents be agents and managers and all this, and I didn't. I was by myself in Hollywood. My parents owned a restaurant and were hard workers, and they're like, good luck, you know, type of thing. They couldn't really help me with that. So, yeah, I had this random music manager, and Spencer's like, I know David Foster, and I can help you, and I'll step in and do this. And I was like, okay, well, if you can do it, great. Let's go. And he just took the reins of it and got me with David Foster. And we actually had a record deal with Warner that we ended up saying no to because it was a 360 deal and they wanted some of the Hills money. And we were just like, all right, let's try to go on our own. And then we ended up getting distribution through Warner later. But we were with, like, very big dogs in the music industry from the beginning, so Spencer really had more connections. And I always believed in Spencer. And it was hard because he was so young, so a lot of people wouldn't take him as serious. But if he were older, he would have commanded a lot more respect, naturally, because people just don't give that to younger people. But I think now everyone can see what a genius he has been this whole time and what a hard worker. And, you know, he can. No one can hustle like him.
- [56:36]
Heather McDonald
But also, he was young and blonde and, like, picturesque for a California surfer with that raspy little surfer voice. So that's not exactly, like, what you see as, like, a Hollywood agent. Either. That's not the typical look there either. So I can imagine why they're like, what's this little, you know, surfer kid rolling up, you know, talking about his hot girlfriend and why she should be a star. So when all this started to happen and you guys are, you know, in this other house, you know, barely any sleep, turn two little kids, your boys are seven and two, and you start seeing that, like actually this movement of streaming your songs and your album is really getting up there. What was your thought? What has been your feeling towards this last week of that part of your life?
- [57:29]
Heidi Montag
Well, last year is really when it hit me that my music was taking off and that was the beginning. Not like right now, but we got a huge check in the mail and I was like, oh my gosh, like, what is happening? They're like, yeah, you're trending in China and internationally. And, you know, I've done a few performances this year and we've been back in the studio because people are wanting new music and there's like this cult following of my album and I've had people come up to me and my performances, like, you don't know, you gave me such escapism. You actually helped save my life. I've had people say that to me about my music and I'm like, oh my gosh, if I did my music to help one person through their adolescence or to give them hope or escapism, then it was worth it, you know, plus it started making an income. So that was incredible. And then we've been Preparing for the 15 year anniversary of superficial for like six months. Right?
- [58:22]
Heather McDonald
So that's great.
- [58:23]
Heidi Montag
And that was this month and the timing was just really ironic and crazy and so to have Spencer be able to rally the nation and the world behind him with his heart and his hustle towards our family and everybody putting that towards streaming my music has been amazing and such a payoff of such hard work and dedication and so much we've put into that. And it's like our only hope right now to like rebuild like our family, you know, so to have people step back and be able to see us in a different light instead of just throwing negativity at us like we have experienced so much of. It's just been a really big blessing and a nice shift to have that support for the first time.
- [59:20]
Heather McDonald
Well, I'm seeing a lot of fun comments and thoughts of besides you continuing with your music, of people wanting to, you know, see more of your family and you. So a couple things that have been thrown Out. I want to ask you, would you do Dancing with the Stars?
- [59:37]
Heidi Montag
I would. I'm a good dancer.
- [59:40]
Heather McDonald
I think that would be really fun to see your three blonde men, like in little suits watching you on the sideline. Like, I really think that is a moment.
- [59:49]
Heidi Montag
Yes.
- [59:50]
Heather McDonald
Okay, so you would do that. Good. Someone said that you guys should both do it. I go, they can't both do it at the same time because someone has to be with the kids. You guys are like so hands on with your kids. So I vote for you first. I think the outfits would be better. Another something I saw in the comments was if you're to do a reality show, to call it the Pratts from scratch, Starting over. I think that's a really cute name.
- [60:18]
Heidi Montag
That's good. I like that.
- [60:19]
Heather McDonald
I think there's a lot of versions of some type of reality show in following you. Whether it's following, it could be everything. I don't think you need a big group of people around you like when the hells return because we can follow your music. We can follow, you know, stay at home dad Spencer, but. And all of that. He's so entertaining. But then also, you know, whatever this rebuild is as a. As a community, as an htv, as like what's a trend, what's not even what kind of houses to build that might be a different style because they will be more protective against future fires and things like that. I think there could be so many interesting things in which we can continue to follow you with part two of, you know, your life. So what do you think of all those things? Are you down for that?
- [61:16]
Heidi Montag
Yeah, I would love that. I think Dancing with the star, as I said to Spencer, I'm like, if we both did it be so funny, like, you know, we could get a. Because it's not as much as you think. I heard okay then both of you guys. But Spencer's like, no, because I wouldn't make it past the first week because he can't memorize things. He can't memorize like songs or moves. Like his brain works so well with so many other things. But like memorizing things isn't as strong suit. But I was like, if you get it or I get it, one of us is going on for sure. The reality show thing is hard because I would love that. And we've just been in this industry for so long and you see that like the hype and people are excited, but it's hard to see it translate. So like, I'm hopeful, but I don't know it's, it's, it's definitely challenging to get a reality show, but we are going to rebuild our house fireproof because our neighbor's house is the only house that stood by and is still there completely unscathed because he's the architect and they built a fireproof house and he already agreed to rebuild our house.
- [62:24]
Heather McDonald
Well, I, I hope that almost all. I would say I hope all the houses do something like that. Or I saw this thing in Japan where the houses have their own water system to spray it from the outside and things like that. But I do also feel bad for the few people whose houses did stay because I'm like, what is that? Like to be there and smoke inhalation or to just hear construction or. I mean, you're happy that you got a house and your stuff is in it and you're, you know, you're not 100% displaced, but like, it's just, you know, like, just so awful all around. But the fact that, you know, the good things are that there were alerts that people did leave, you know, of course there are deaths, a lot of deaths still, but, like, a lot of people were saved because they had the system with the iPhone of like, evacuate now, get out now. And we were all batches of nerves. I'm lucky enough that it didn't come to my neighborhood, but to just have those alerts go off all the time, I mean, it's just like everyone is like, you can tell just even people that weren't affected by it, but you see them a week later, like, everyone's eyes are sunken in and this, you know, it's just a different. Ugh, it's awful.
- [63:41]
Heidi Montag
So, well, our alerts didn't go off soon enough and we stayed almost too late. So thankfully our babysitter, our nanny, came in with Riker and she's like, there's a fire. And we had no idea. And then we look outside and there are huge clouds of smoke everywhere. And we're like, oh my gosh. Like, if she hadn't come in with him, we wouldn't even have known. And then we're like, do we pack? Do we not pack? Or they. Is it over the hill? Is it going to come this close? Like, it was really confusing. And I don't know if Spencer told you, but Gunner had 104 fever and I had been up with him three nights in a row, putting him in the bath, trying to cool down his body all throughout the night, like waking him up. And so he was so incredibly sick. And Spencer's like put on the news. I'm like, I can't. He's so lethargic and so sick. The only thing he can do is even like sit here and watch TV and drink water. Like I'm concerned about my son going to the hospital, you know. So there was like so much going on. And then you know, Spencer's like, it's fine, it's fine. The airplanes were coming and I was like okay. Then you know, I brought two pairs of jeans because I was like I'm coming back. Like what am I? And how do you even choose? Like you're so overwhelmed with. But yeah, it's. And how has it how.
- [64:57]
Heather McDonald
I know your two year old, you know, is young but your seven year old. It was a really cute scene when you got gave him that you had kept his little cute little tooth thing from the tooth fairy. But how has he. Does he understand or what do you tell a 7 year old who's never going to go back to his school or anything or to his grandparents house. Like what has that been?
- [65:21]
Heidi Montag
As a mom, you know, I'm actually gonna. And I'm writing a children's book on this to like help kids.
- [65:29]
Heather McDonald
Oh, I love that.
- [65:30]
Heidi Montag
Through trauma and like how to emotionally deal with it. And you're in your parents and stuff like that. And my mom's a psychologist and I have another writer helping me because I'm like there's no books for this. But you know what, I just, I told him, you know, there's a fire and he understands and he's old enough to understand and you know, he saw the smoke so he, he did know and we had to just be like, you know, I'm, I'm so sorry but the house didn't make it. And you know, and then we just one thing at a time, you know, not like okay, the, there's a fire that your school's gone, your house is gone. It's like okay. And then a few hours later it's like buddy, I'm so sorry. But also this, you know, part of your school was you know, taken by the fire and we're not going to be able to go back there but we're going to have a new school and letting him like mourn himself and have those feelings but also like trying to give him hope and a good insight and I've seen him cry a few times and I've really tried to validate that, you know, and like let him cry and have those emotions and tell him like it's okay. To be sad and this is really hard and you are going through a lot. So you want to. I want to like, confirm his feelings, let him have it, and then also be like, and like, and what's. And what's good and what would make you feel better and what could you do? Like, the next day I took him to Target. I'm like, he's obsessed with his toys. I'm gonna take him and have him feel like he has toys and I can just, like, lose everything, you know, so I'm like, all right, let's go. Let's go get you new toys. And, you know, I've tried really hard to not constantly cry around him. And sometimes I'm like, it's okay for him to see me cry. I don't want to be, like, completely.
- [67:14]
Heather McDonald
Distraught around him, you know, so I'm.
- [67:15]
Heidi Montag
Trying to balance that as well because my priority is, like, my kids, my son, getting him in school, making sure, like, Spencer's drinking water and sleeping, you know, so, like, I'm really focused on the house and like our, our family and making sure everyone's okay.
- [67:35]
Heather McDonald
Well, I, I think you guys are just like, giving a lot of people hope and we love you as, you know, friends and entertainers and as a family. You guys have a beautiful family and a beautiful mar. And I think people really love seeing how you have had each other's back and your community's back and how people are rallying around and your music is really fun and you're really gorgeous and a truly sweet person and a great mom and wife. And I'm here and I hope that we can do something fun. Go out to dinner or whatever. Or I can. Or I could weasel my way into dancing with the stars and watch the boys while you dance. I don't know, but I know there's gonna be good stuff. And you know, your mother in law is such a wonderful juicy scooper and she dm's me all the time, Spencer's mom. And I'm just so, you know, I'm just so sorry for them as well. But, you know, you guys are an awesome family and everyone's rooting for you and I, I thank you so much for taking the time. I know you had to get your son and you guys are just, you know, still running on probably no sleep. So. Thank you for taking the time to do Juicy Scoop and we all love you. The Juicy Scoopers are doing everything they can to pray and do everything they can.
- [69:00]
Heidi Montag
So thank you. Thank you for your support and all the, all the content and everything really helps. So we appreciate that. And, you know, we definitely want to build back our community. All of our friends, like Spencer's mentioned, have lost everything. So it's really a community that we want to help get back. And we're trying to reach out to charities and our friends, too, and we're like, all right, how do we rebuild our lives and everything else? So we definitely will be looking at that. But meanwhile, thank you for streaming Superficial and supporting us. And, you know, we're. We're really blessed to be alive. We're really. I'm glad Spencer got out of there. He stayed too late. I thought that was dark for a. A moment, and I had to. That was crazy. So, yeah, I'm. I'm so thankful, you know, I just. I have to, like, stop sometimes. I'm like, okay, feel the sun. Take some deep breaths. Have some water. Like, be in the moment right here. Just, like, forget the past, forget the future. Just, like, breathe, calm down, you know, like, just the little things we gotta focus on, too. But anyways, thank you. Thank you for your time. And. Yeah, dinner. We'd love that if you're in Santa Barbara.
- [70:09]
Heather McDonald
Yes.
- [70:10]
Heidi Montag
Dancing with the stars. Whatever comes.
- [70:12]
Heather McDonald
All right. Love you so much. Love to Spencer and the boys. Bye.
- [70:15]
Heidi Montag
All right. Thank you. Bye.