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Heather McDonald has got the juices. Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go. Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She tops Hollywood tales for real life. Mr. Segment, serial data and cereal sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in. Listen up. Whoop whoop. Hannah McDonald, juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have our delight, your favorite chef, Chef Stew. Hi welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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Thanks for having you are here.
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We're gonna get into so many things because you are an expert on many. But let's just get into some breaking news which is not breaking at all. Cause I've said it a bunch of times. November 14th, I will be at the MGM Grand, 10pm That's Friday night in Vegas at the Bravicon weekend. And you are also going to be coming.
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I'm gonna be there for the whole.
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Weekend at my show.
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Yes.
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Lots of fun, fun drinks, whoring yourself out.
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Yes, we'll see. Housewives don't know where they're sitting. We're gonna figure that out. So we'll just be there every night at the bar.
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I do know where they are.
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Oh great.
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Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'll let you know. I had some drama happen with me just this morning that I woke up to exploit with Real Housewives of Salt Lake. So on Thursday's show I did a solo show.
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Great.
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And I just was going through and I was talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake which I thoroughly enjoy and I'd Come across a reality BL article that they must have gotten, I think, from, like, Bravo TV where Meredith showed off her $70,000 a month home in Salt Lake or Park City or wherever it is and whatever. I just went on a little rant and I was like, you know, they don't pay these women enough, like, to be spending. You should learn how to do your own glam. You should, you know, try to get sponsors for your parties. You should not be paying. Like, we all know what can happen once you get the boot over and. And people forget about you. So anyway, I just kind of went on a rant on that, and then we made a clip of it, and I was. And I was kind of like, oh, God, is someone gonna be like, why are you talking about someone's money? All I was saying was like, bravo should pay these people more.
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Sure.
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So that they can live the luxurious life that the fans demand. Right. So anyway, comments by Bravo. It's a kind of like comments by celeb, but caught that she had written under it, which I did not know. And Meredith Marks said, while I've not spoken about what I. Wait, let me do it. My voice. Why I've not spoken about what I spend. I appreciate your concern. It's only irresponsible to spend what you cannot afford. Fortunately, I live well below my means. No need to worry. Sincerely, Meredith Marks, jd, NBA, dj.
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Please stop.
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You can leave now. So, anyway, total great clapback. Also, what I did see when I posted this is that people were writing saying, heather, she has huge family money. I saw something that she inherited. $150 million.
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I didn't know that.
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And if you do, then, yeah, spend 80,000amonth.
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Yeah, great.
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I didn't know that. I was just going off of that. I think that they never pay these housewives enough.
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I think they're getting like, those Orange county bitches are getting about 900,000.
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Yeah. But when it's over, it's over.
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It's a lot of money, though, if you get like three or four good runs out of it.
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But that's why you have to invest it, Right? Exactly. So if you. Even if you're getting that, you shouldn't be spending an enormous amount of money on rent when they barely film in your house.
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Sure. Yeah.
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That's all I would say, is that it concerns the people at home that have been watching for 20 years when we see something like this. Now that I know that she has $150 million and probably Brooks is writing this because he's a little Clever delight. I love it. And I've said, go, go, go watch your dj, Go buy the caviar.
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She can do whatever she wants.
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Do whatever you want.
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Down at Beaches Tropicana last week, just spinning it up, you know, she was disgusting.
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I love it.
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And I bet we need to borrow. She had that money. I bet you wish. Lisa Barlow wishes she had that money.
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Right, Right.
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She also clapped on one of my reels this week. I was with Etsy Cup. I had her on. And we were talking about it. Cause we were saying, like, in the scene in Salt Lake, right? They're going to the party, right? This is where Bronwyn takes her out, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And she's in the car, and you can see Lisa's face, and she's just really, like, anxious, nervous, like there's something wrong. Yeah. I just was like. And se was like, yeah, I saw that too. And I was like, oh, I think there's something major happening. Like, I think, like, bankruptcy. Major, like, whatever. So then she commented, like, so they heard. I did a tip of that, right? She commented, absolutely not.
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You know what, Chef Stew, why don't you stick to your spices?
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Yeah, Right.
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Because I have a very successful business. Okay. And I'm gonna go the distance on this one. The show is extremely entertaining for many of those reasons. And, yeah, then it got into a pissing match on that episode about. Angie has these hair salons, but she doesn't own all of them. She has franchised them out. And so she owns a couple of. It's like, the same way that people thought that Mauricio owned every agency. So every time you see an agency pop in your house, you're like, kyle must be just swimming in it. No, it's like he was just the CEO, the face of it, or whatever.
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And she has ownership in it, though, as well, right?
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I don't know. But everyone's doing fine. Okay. Go spend 70,000amonth, Angie. Anyway, so then. But just going back and forth on the businesses is like. I mean, that is kind of.
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I. I didn't know she had.
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I think that is interesting. I mean, that is real. That's better than, like, you ate the bow off my cake or whatever. So, like, it's all good, but. Okay, we're getting into some. Just to update, Diddy got four years, and Matt Murphy, who's on my show all the time, former prosecutor, he predicted exactly that. He said he'll get four years and then get out in 18 months.
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And then a man who says he's like, Got HIV now.
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Oh, now there's a new lawsuit that I hadn't even gotten to that. So there's a new lawsuit of a man suing P. Diddy, saying he contracted HIV after a sexual assault from an unknown person at an after party. And therefore he's suing him too. So, I mean, he still has all these lawsuits he has to deal with. The family was, you know, their kids crying, which we didn't get to see because it's a federal case. Supposedly he like fell to his knees. And then Mark Garagos went on TMZ and he said that Sean Diddy Combs will call prison home for more than two years. And then he does have a target on his back for sexual and other violent assaults. So he's scared that, you know, he might be sexually taken advantage of, which is just the. I mean, all the comments were like, karma's a bitch. Like, what do you want, dude?
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Yeah.
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And then Aubrey o' Day had written this thing because she, you know, was part of his TV show about making the band. And she has never really said what went on, but she was always saying, like, he's. He's not a good person. This is bad. And so she wrote a thing, just saying to all the young artists there, if you're ever in a position where you feel like, you know, they're asking you to do something that is beyond what you're comfortable with, just leave right then. Like just leave right then. And then she like, you know, had done it. So it was based on him going to prison. Like she always knew there was something else.
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Yeah.
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And so good for that. Okay, so. So in other long term marriages, getting divorced news, we had a big breakup happen after 28 years of marriage. Lori Loughlin, the actress and Mossimo. I'm just gonna call him Mossimo. Cause the name's too hard. They've been married forever. You know her from. But really we know them from the scandal, the college scandal, which is where I covered it a lot. I was obsessed. They had both their daughters, but one was a little more famous than the other. Olivia Jade. Cause she's this big YouTuber and from what I heard she was getting like a 3:2 or something at school. That does not get you into USC in the last 20 years.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So she got into SC and when they exposed the scandal of where this guy would take money from the parents, give it to different people at these different schools, Harvard and whatnot got them in also under the guise that they're an athlete.
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Yes.
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So they Put her in. They went to Equinox and put her on a rowing machine, squirted some water in her face and said that she was rowing out in Marina del Rea. Well, the school then realized we don't have a rowing team. And when they. And then in all of this, he was threatening the counselor. And I don't even want to say the school, but it's an all girl Catholic high school that's on Sunset. So anyway, that all happened. Then she gets into loving life, her life at sc. And when it all broke down, the alleged story I heard was they were actually enjoying their time on Rick Caruso's yacht during their spring break. Cause his kids were her sorority sisters. And he was like, dock the boat. What the fuck is happening here? And then it all got exposed and they both went to prison. She went for five months and he went for like nine or longer. And, you know, much like Teresa and her husband, but not as. And they came back and they were still together. And she was back, you know, doing her thing. And now they're getting divorced. And people are like, why? You know why? So.
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And I'm like, I would, like, I could swear, like, you'd see him at like, the Abbey on a Saturday night. Honestly. I mean, that scarf.
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The scarf's a lot. But he also is a fashion guy.
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Oh, true. Okay.
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You know, what is interesting about his background is he was at usc. And again, alleged story is that he lied to his parents about going to the school. He took the tuition money and put it towards building this clothing thing.
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Wow.
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So it was like. The bad news is, like, I wasn't going to class. The good news is I already have, like, an established business.
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Yeah.
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And apparently this. This clothing business is, you know, so huge at Target. Whatever. He's worth billions. And so, you know, but then people were like, oh, there was deception, whatever, the whole thing. They all did their time. Olivia Jade is just. She's like, fuck this. They both left the school and, like, she's having fun. And they both look young and cute.
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They do. Yeah.
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And so I know it's hard. And I said this when we were talking about Nicole Kidman. Like, when people are like, why bother now? Like a younger person? It's like, because we live till we're 100. If you're not happy, you have all the money in the world. The kids are grown. You did stick together during that time. Probably. We don't know. Maybe they were on the verge of divorce prior to that. And then they're like, the last thing we're gonna do is put our kids through another thing when let's just stick together, do what everything we're supposed to do. But in doing that, I remember, like, who's the blonde woman? You were just first saying, Felicity Huffman.
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Felicity Huffman. Yeah.
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Felicity Huffman. Right away, like, fell on the sword. What do I need to do? I feel horrible. I feel horrible that I did this to my daughter. Da, da, da. And she.
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Over ten grand. That's what it was.
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But I think she did a little bit of time.
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She did. She did a few months.
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Her thing was she had someone, like, fix the girl's answers. So she got, like, a. There was, like, a paid proctor. So when you test the sat, then they would take that test, correct it. And so I was saying it was like, the opposite. And then maybe the daughter didn't know. And so I was saying it's kind of like the opposite of the meanest mother in the world with the high. What was it? The catfish. High school catfish story. Oh, my God.
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Yes. A known caller.
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Like, she was actually doing, like, a nice thing without her daughter knowing. Like, putting out Christmas gifts for a toddler. Like, let me just fix your test. And you won't know. And then you're like, mom, guess where I got into? And so anyway, I predicted that she would be back acting, and she is.
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She's got a show.
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Yeah, she's my favorite. They fought it a little bit. They fought it, and they tried to say, like, we were entrapped by the main guy. And I always wonder if during that time, the conversations that must have been going on in their house of, like, finger pointing, I never even. You know, I didn't care if she would have gone to U of A. Yes. You didn't want to go and get, you know, be in the hot stands of Phoenix. You wanted. Or Tucson. You wanted her to go to usa. You wanted her to go to usc. Like, whatever it was.
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Do you think the husband knew? Do you think William. William Macy knew? Or, like. Or do you think she did it without his knowledge?
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Or if he knew. It was like, again, one of us is gonna. Only one of us. Because they tried to see if he knew.
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Yeah.
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And there just wasn't enough there. So if he did, fine. But, like, yeah, if you're in this relationship where you've always just been like, honey, you decorate the house. You, like, you choose the school. You. I mean, filling out those apps. I was so critical until I had to help those kids fill out the apps. And then I was like, who the fuck can I write a check to? This is a fucking nightmare.
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Really.
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It's huge. It's hard. It's a nightmare. And if somebody, I'm not saying I would do it, I would know not to do it. But I could see why they all knew each other. So it was just like telling your friend, oh, I've got the tennis coach for you, for your kid. Oh, just, I got you, girl. Our girls will be on Rick Caruso's yacht being Kappas. Like, I got you, girl. Like, you know, and so then you're like, oh, okay. Because once you get in there, you can handle the schoolwork. It's just getting in. They make it so crazy hard. So anyway, they're broken up. We'll see. She was out seen. She was seen out having dinner. Lori Loughlin was spotted embracing James Tupper. I don't know who that is.
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It is so funny.
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One day before the split news. They could be friends or they could be something more.
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Like in Ireland, like there's nothing like a process like that. It's literally, you do your final exams in high school, you get points, you get in or you don't get in, and that's it.
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But that's what I remember when I visited Ireland, that I thought I should be so grateful to be American. Because when I went like in the late 80s, they were. It was just like it was decided at like 12 if you were going to work at Penny's or if you were going to be a doctor.
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Yeah.
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And I thought, oh my God, that's so awful. In America you have so many chances to go to school later in life, go through the junior college system because.
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I was put in a lower class. So I had to change to a different school in countryside. And so then I could choose which classes. I had to get a bus every fucking morning for 30 minutes, you know, in high school. And then I got into the better classes that got me better points.
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I look at you now on Juicy Skills. Clearly, clearly Ireland didn't know that you are not a complete genius, intellectual genius.
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Rapping on about housewives and writing housewives cookbooks.
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Yes, exactly. Keith Urban. People think that he hated Nicole Kidman in Baby Girl because she was having all the orgasms with the younger guy. He also changed the words to one of his songs. I heard this and was like, hey, Maggie. Some 25 year old guitar player. But then she was missing from the next show. They don't know if she was missing cause of online hate or if she's not really part of the band or if they're having an affair. Then I read something. No, she's pregnant. And that's gonna come out.
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Is he with somebody new now?
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People think he might be with this female guitarist, but nothing's been confirmed.
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Poor Nicole.
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You know, so then, like, that's why she then filed. Like, they did the separation, and then she was like, I have to file first because there is someone else, and I don't want to be humiliated.
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Yeah, yeah. Tell them. How long were they married?
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Oh, they were married, like, 20 years.
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Wow.
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And they. I thought their daughters were older, but I think the youngest is, like, 14. And so, you know.
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Did they have kids together?
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Yeah, they have two daughters.
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And then she has kids then with Tom Cruise as well. Does she?
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Yeah, but when she left Scientology, she had to. She couldn't. Never saw those kids again.
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Really?
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Yeah. It was a girl and a boy, and they're both still Scientologists and they're with Tom. Well, now they're adults.
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Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But, you know, which always made sense why I think Katie Holmes was like, I need to get out now.
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Yeah.
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And then he never saw that kid Suri.
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The whole thing was so weird, when you think about it, back then. Yeah.
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And then they met, like, backstage at, like, a TV show, and they were both Australian, and they were cute together. Yeah. I mean, they have similar hair. Like, she wears a lot of wigs. You know, like, that's the thing. Like, every. Every show is a wig.
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Yeah.
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And then he's got his highlights, and they start to merge into looking like a similar person.
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Yeah, they do.
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Yeah. Yeah. But whatever, you know.
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How old is she now? She mid-50s.
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She's gotta be. Yeah, she's gotta be. I mean, she looks amazing and her body is incredible and. But, I mean, I remember this movie, the Baby Girl, where she was just like, what are you talking about? You're mine. You're mine. And it was just like. It was just so weird that it could have been. It could have been kind of good. But, I mean, I haven't seen it. Honestly, if it pops up. Just watch it.
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Watch it. Okay.
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It is weird, and it is, like, attractive people. It is New York City. It is fancy apartments, nice. If I get enough of that on a rainy afternoon, watching a movie, I don't care.
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It's the best.
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Remember he showed, like, the video of the. How bad the house was that totally backfired makeup table.
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I'm like, she hasn't lived there for four years. Why don't you throw it in a box and, like, clean it? There's four of you not working.
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You're blaming her for the mess of the house when she's not living there.
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Well, she has to take, you know, selfies of her asshole. And you would want. You expect to get money of that? No.
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What is that OnlyFans? Like, is it just like, tits and, like, do you see pussy?
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I think she does full nude puss shower. Like, but I don't think she goes the next level of having someone else in it with her.
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Sure. Okay.
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And then, you know, and then they write you back. They write the people and, you know.
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Yeah.
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Responds to that stuff.
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Yeah.
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Does fine. But. God, I mean, but then I can say, if I was his divorce attorney, I'd be like, on the show, you said he helps with the content. On OnlyFans, he's there. So it's like, if he helped build that monthly subscription.
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Yeah. Then is he entitled to half of it?
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But I feel like, still. I mean, I. Yeah, but I mean, it's still. It's not like my argument then, as her attorney would be like, yeah, but it's her. And it's. It's fresh content, and it's like her body and her personality.
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Yeah.
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It's not like the two of you sat down and wrote Grey's Anatomy together, and now you're getting divorced. And she's like, no, you don't get any of Grey's Anatomy syndication. No, it's like, it still just.
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What was he doing, like, holding the camera? He wasn't having sex with her on it?
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No, no, no, no. I think he was just. Yeah. Like, probably helping. Maybe he was one of the people writing back. The people. I don't know.
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Oh, okay. Wow. Interesting.
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There we go. Okay, now let's talk about Taylor Swift.
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I'm gonna lose my mind.
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Okay, so you are a Swiftie expert. I of course, know that she's engaged. Like, her top songs. I have nothing against her. I think she's super talented and a great writer. I think it's great that there's little girls all over that there's daddy daughter dancers at country clubs where they have a Taylor Swift impersonator. I'm all for it. I am not an expert. I don't understand Easter eggs. I don't understand history. So let's get into the album.
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Okay, so the album came out last, let's say Thursday night. It dropped at like 9pm and then on Friday was the movie to launch the album. Right. Which basically was behind the scenes of the making of the music video the Fate of Ophelia, which came out today. Like the actual national release on YouTube. Right.
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Okay, wait, so you went to the movie.
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You went to the movie right, by yourself? No, there was like three or four of us.
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And who else was in the theater? What was the demographic in the theater?
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Girls. Girls. Few guys.
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Okay.
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B
You know, they were dressed in their ERAS tour outfits and stuff like that. They're all having a good time and it's like a fun experience because, like, yeah, you're all there for the same person and you're like, you know, it's fun. It's kind of like an ERAS tour thing again. And I saw that concert three times. It was amazing. And so we're there, like, they play the video and then, you know, it's her like kind of directing the music video. It's like making them. Making mtv, making the music video, basically. Right. That in between each, like, part of the video, she plays like a lyrical video of the next song.
- [26:23]
A
Okay.
- [26:23]
B
You take you through the whole song. The inspiration for art, the Charli XCX of it, like, actually romantic, that song.
- [26:29]
A
So, okay, let's talk about Charli xcx. Okay, I need to ask about this because I did my. A little bit of research. So Charli xcx, XCX open for her.
- [26:41]
B
Yes.
- [26:41]
A
Then she went on to do an interview and said, I didn't love it. I felt like I was entertaining five year olds. I was performing for five year olds. Which then. The Swifties don't like that. No, because they're like, we're eight, leave us alone. Okay? We're in third grade. Stop it. And so. But no. So you never piss on an audience. And so what is the going back? Are they friends? Are they not friends?
- [27:04]
B
I don't think they are. Cause that song, she thinks that, like, Charlie kind of goes out of her way to kind of make fun of her. And then she's like, oh, well, it's actually romantic. Like, keep talking about me. Like all the time you're spending on me. It's like, that's what the song is about.
- [27:17]
A
Okay, so when you, like are listening to the song for the first time, Are you able to be like, oh, this is what this means? And this is what they.
- [27:25]
B
I mean, no, the tiktokers do that. And I see that. I read. I do not go down that.
- [27:30]
A
And do those people, like, print it out and then, like, try to.
- [27:33]
B
Oh, totally do the.
- [27:35]
A
Connect the dots.
- [27:36]
B
She had, like, 12 doors, orange doors opening around the world. They all had QR codes that revealed, like, letters and stuff, like, for. I don't know what.
- [27:44]
A
People had to fly around the world to go to eat.
- [27:47]
B
The fans were like, you know, there was, like. People were at the fucking Grove on Sunday morning looking for this orange door because she said, like, Beverly Grove, Santa Monica was one too. I was. I don't know. I don't even know what that was.
- [27:57]
A
She puts people through kind of a lot.
- [27:58]
B
Oh, it's. It's exhausting. So the album came out, right? Yeah, it's underwhelming. Okay, it is. And everybody bought, like, seven or eight vinyls. I think I have four fucking vinyls coming today.
- [28:13]
A
Why?
- [28:13]
B
Because she brings out all these different versions. The problem with the album is.
- [28:17]
A
Yes.
- [28:18]
B
This is the major issue with it.
- [28:20]
A
Okay.
- [28:20]
B
The product doesn't match the marketing. Right? The marketing. You all saw it. The showgirl, the feathers, the chains, the thing. I was like, this is great. It's gonna be like jazz, burlesque, Vegas. It's gonna be all that kind of stuff. Right? Can't fucking wait to hear this album. The album literally is none of that. It's not one song is like that at all. It's not representing burlesque litz glamour. It's like a regular album. It feels like an album of bonus tracks to me.
- [28:46]
A
Okay.
- [28:47]
B
And you can't defend it. And, like, you have the major 50s, like, on TikTok and stuff like that, like, trying to defend it to, like, the cows Come Home, but it's like. It's an underwhelming album. The song one and song 12 are decent. Like, I like those two songs. That's about it. The rest is just. I'm just like, whatever. I'm. Those. Those violins are going straight on ebay when I get them.
- [29:06]
A
I, you know, don't ever really go through and listen to a whole new album. Like, so I'll hear the. Oh, you know, I still listen to, like, regular radio sometimes.
- [29:16]
B
Yeah.
- [29:17]
A
So I'll be like, oh, you know, Kiss fm. Oh, oh, this must be a new song from Taylor.
- [29:22]
B
Sure.
- [29:22]
A
Okay.
- [29:22]
B
Yeah.
- [29:22]
A
Like, whatever. And so I. I wouldn't even know if I could say I love something or not. Because I feel like I'm that person that has to hear something a few times.
- [29:33]
B
Oh, yeah, me too.
- [29:34]
A
To go, oh, I like this song. It's a hit.
- [29:37]
B
Yeah.
- [29:38]
A
How can someone just hear us one song and go, I don't like that song. Like, how could that even be?
- [29:43]
B
Because you're just. You have an expectation with her. Because her last few albums have been, like, unbelievable. Like, just the writing, the lyrics, the storytelling. It's great, right? This is just. It's kind of immature. The lyrics are. It's kind of mean. It's kind of bitchy. Like, the Canceled songs about, like, she likes her friends that get canceled, so she likes these brats, like the Blake Liveys and all that kind of stuff. She's kind of defending them in this song.
- [30:10]
A
Oh, so you think that that was a. Like. So there's not a negative thing about that?
- [30:14]
B
There's not a negative.
- [30:15]
A
No, not a negative towards Blake.
- [30:17]
B
Everybody thought that. Yeah.
- [30:19]
A
And what about the fact that she had said. I'm like. I read like, she. That she was worried about this album because she. All her other albums were. Is that she was, you know, miserable boyfriend was bad or sad. Now she has a lifetime partner. That's nice. Do you think that's why it's not as good?
- [30:42]
B
Yeah, I think so. And then she has a song called Wood, which is about his dick. I'm like, I don't need to hear that.
- [30:47]
A
Do you think that's what it's about?
- [30:48]
B
It's definitely about that.
- [30:49]
A
Because I heard someone else say, no, it's about knocking on wood. Like, I don't have to worry about jinxing this love.
- [30:54]
B
No, it's like wood opens my legs, my thighs. She says, yeah, it's a. And then it's like, apparently, I read this morning, it's 2 minutes and 30 seconds, which is 23 centimeters, which is 9 inches. That's another.
- [31:06]
A
You have to do math like that.
- [31:08]
B
Oh, yeah. She's into numerology, stuff like that.
- [31:10]
A
Someone did that.
- [31:12]
B
I don't want to hear that song.
- [31:14]
A
What about. Wasn't there something about.
- [31:16]
B
It's like the Jackson 5 song as well when you listen to it.
- [31:19]
A
Wait, you mean the old Jackson 5, like Michael Jackson band from when he was 5?
- [31:23]
B
1, 2, 3. That song, whatever it is. Yeah.
- [31:25]
A
Oh, it sounds like she sampled that.
- [31:26]
B
Yeah, it's definitely a sample from it.
- [31:29]
A
And that's the other thing I always like. Do you get permission from the. From the Jackson Fives before you do it, or do you wait very similar and then pay.
- [31:38]
B
I don't know. We listen to it and you'll. You'll know, but.
- [31:41]
A
And then what was it? Go ahead.
- [31:42]
B
Then she has a George Michael kind of reference in there too. And she had to ask the George Michael estate.
- [31:47]
A
Okay.
- [31:47]
B
For this song called Father Figure.
- [31:49]
A
Oh, I will be your father figure.
- [31:51]
B
But this song doesn't sound anything like it. I don't. I don't.
- [31:54]
A
Is that a shout out to call her daddy? I'm your founding father.
- [32:00]
B
So it's just the problem. And then she's dropping more acoustic versions. It's just very capitalistic. It's very like. I feel like she's just taking advantage of the fans. And the funny thing about it is I feel like it was almost like an expectation for fans to buy all these fucking vinyls before even one song was released. She should have released this song. I really, deep down feel like when.
- [32:21]
A
People buy the vinyls, do all these little kids have an actual record player in their house?
- [32:25]
B
So they're major collect, like, their collectors items. I bought four. Like, four coming. They're going straight on ebay. Like, I just don't think the album's, like, worth it. Like, for me, I got, like, fomo and I was just, like, just buying them. When you do these countdown drops, I was like, should I get them? Like, oh, fuck. And then it was like, you know, and then you're like, oh, fuck, I have four vinyls coming. She's released nine. Eight vinyls. There's eight versions. They're all the same.
- [32:48]
A
And then when you get the vinyl, do you actually, like, put it on the final pair?
- [32:52]
B
Yeah.
- [32:52]
A
And you like to.
- [32:53]
B
Just fun.
- [32:54]
A
It's like you feel like you're like an episode of Mad Men.
- [32:57]
B
Like, just.
- [32:58]
A
Yeah, I love it.
- [32:59]
B
It sounds a bit crisper and, like, the crackling is kind of cute. Yeah. Oh.
- [33:02]
A
Kind of brings you back to olden days. Okay. And so what about Travis, Kelsey's ex girlfriend? There was some reference to her, wasn't there, or. No.
- [33:14]
B
I've been seeing a few things pop up, but I don't know what it was like. Did she say something?
- [33:19]
A
I think someone misanalyzed that. I can't believe that she would give anything to, like, an ex of his. Yeah, so I don't believe that one. Okay, well, do you think this is gonna bum her out, or do you think she's not gonna care?
- [33:31]
B
She's gonna be fine. She's gonna sell out.
- [33:33]
A
This is what. This is what Travis Kelce begs ex to get off your phone and resurface video after Taylor's. Oh, it's opolite.
- [33:41]
B
Yeah.
- [33:41]
A
Opalite. Diss is about this girl a little bit.
- [33:46]
B
No, I don't think it is. Like, she said Opalite was a thing, that her and her mom liked. Opalite. The color or something. Like, I don't know. I don't think it's about her.
- [33:54]
A
Okay.
- [33:55]
B
Yeah, that's cute. See, there's, like, Easter eggs and references. Like, he's in a photograph right there in the top of the. In the music video as a woman. No, wait. Photograph of Travis is a photograph of travel in the music video. Yeah.
- [34:11]
A
Oh, God, these are. This is so much work.
- [34:14]
B
And it was October 3rd. The day that album came out was when that was uploaded or something. That's from an old TV show, a dating show he was on or something like that, wasn't he?
- [34:23]
A
God, how did. How does she even want to do all these connections?
- [34:27]
B
She has a team that probably puts all of them together and stuff like that. Like, there was a thing where, like, this was kind of cool. In the back of the. You know, the. The album, whatever. You have, like, the listing of all the tracks, right?
- [34:37]
A
Yeah.
- [34:38]
B
And they were kind of like, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. So when you brought them all together, centered, it actually mapped out the Heiress tour stage, which was kind of like. I know it's insane, but it was kind of. That was an Easter egg. I know. It's just like.
- [34:51]
A
I mean, without.
- [34:52]
B
It's fun to a point.
- [34:53]
A
Like, could. Could. Like, this is psych. I mean, this is like, more conspiracy theories and, like.
- [34:59]
B
But she's going to drop more tracks now as well. She has these vault tracks from Reputation that she used to drop.
- [35:04]
A
Okay.
- [35:05]
B
And so I'm like, can you please drop those? Because I can't deal with this album. Like, I need something, like, already. I'm sick of it. Yeah.
- [35:11]
A
All right. That's a lot. But thank you for telling us. Now, Real Housewives of OC had one of the most fun moments in this latest episode for me.
- [35:20]
B
Okay.
- [35:20]
A
Okay. And that was when Gina allegedly pissed off. Not allegedly, but she pissed off Heather Dubrow. Because she was like, why would you say. Okay, So I guess. I guess behind Heather's back, they were like, why is Heather trying to be a comedian and taking classes at the Groundlings? I've talked about the Groundlings. I went through the whole program. I was in the Sunday show in my 20s. And she has also gone on interviews and said, I'm living in my century city penthouse, and I go down and I go and Take these comedy classes. Cause I'm trying to reinvent myself or whatever. And Gina, who, in my opinion is doing. Trying to be a comedian on her TikTok, doing lots of funny things or whatever, had the audacity to be like, I don't think of you as, like, a funny person. And then Heather's like, do you not realize that I was a sitcom actress? Do you know that sitcom stands for situational comedy? I'm hilarious. And it was just like. She's like, okay, I'm sorry. Fine. And I just thought that that was, you know, so. And I will say Heather did book a lot of stuff.
- [36:39]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [36:40]
A
She. You know, whether the pilot went or didn't go, it's huge to book a pilot. Whether the show only lasted one or two seasons. That's huge. She. So she definitely was working before she moved to OC and started having babies. Yeah. But then when she's like, I'm trying to reinvent, I'm like, okay, when the show started, your youngest was like, one and a half. And now that child is like, whatever, 14. So you act like you gave up acting. You didn't. You've been in front of the tv even doing. There was only, like, six years maybe, where, like, you kind of probably were not. Right.
- [37:20]
B
She does say, like, I gave it up to go raise family and stuff like that. Right. But she was always kind of doing it anyway. Right?
- [37:25]
A
Yeah. Maybe there was like, six or seven years between the three pregnancies. Because there's twins.
- [37:30]
B
Yeah.
- [37:30]
A
That, like. Yeah, maybe you weren't going out for pilot season.
- [37:34]
B
Yeah.
- [37:34]
A
But it wasn't like, you know. And so, anyway, I just thought. I thought that was great. And they're like, oh, God. You know. And then my other favorite part was Tamara's. No tears. Tears. The camera tears are like.
- [37:50]
B
I was laughing, she was like.
- [37:55]
A
And then Emily's like, I don't trust you. Can I have an espresso martini? Why would I trust you if I tell you something and then you get pissed at me and then you're going to use it against me? How could you? Why would you think I'd ever do that? It's like, what. You have been holding things over people's head. I mean, all you need to do is watch one of my favorite Real Housewives reunions when she's fighting with Vicki. Vicki is currently married to Dawn, I think.
- [38:27]
B
Yeah.
- [38:28]
A
And she's like, when we were in Cabo, you woke me up and said, I just woke up with a naked guy next to me in bed. And Vicki's like, I've never had multiple partners in my life. And unlike that, girls watch that. That's not a friend.
- [38:47]
B
Yeah, but the thing is you don't.
- [38:49]
A
Like, have something on somebody and then throw a grenade on tv. Like, the fact that Vicki ever trusted her, went on tours with Trace Amigos ever again. Like, it doesn't matter how mad you were. Like, you just should have. But I don't know what was she was throwing a grenade before to Tamara. I don't know.
- [39:13]
B
They take all these breadcrumbs all the housewives give them and they keep them like in their head for whenever they need to bring them out. I feel like grenades, you know what I mean? Because that's all you got, you know, when you're on that show, to protect yourself.
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A
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- [42:39]
B
I think like Tamara shouldn't take it like too personally as well because it's like, I think the girls are just trying to protect themselves from anybody. Like, anything can come up from anybody that holds it. So it's like, hey, I don't really want to tell you kind of this, this. In this case, you might throw it at me like in a later date if we get into a massive fight.
- [42:56]
A
Yeah.
- [42:57]
B
Like it's, you know, like.
- [42:58]
A
Yeah. And then she's like doing, I mean.
- [42:59]
B
Like, if I was Tamara, I'd be like, okay, I kind of fucking get it. Like, you know what I mean?
- [43:02]
A
Yeah, I think she does, but I think she just like decided to like do the fake tears. I mean, it was just. And she was like, I loved what.
- [43:08]
B
She was like, you didn't defend me.
- [43:10]
A
You didn't defend me and you don't trust me. And Heather's just like.
- [43:14]
B
Heather was like, oh my God, what?
- [43:15]
A
Now I'm trying to get into level two of groundlings. Okay? Like, I've got a lot on my plate. I have a ch. I'm almost an empty nester. Which he's been saying for the last five years. Again, your child is only 14. You're not an empty nester.
- [43:29]
B
Yeah, he's the youngest child, 14. And then the others are in their 20s, I think.
- [43:33]
A
And so. But anyway, so then she was just like, yeah. Because then you. And then she's like, I'm done. I'm done. You'll never see my face again. And people are like, oh, my God.
- [43:40]
B
She went up the stairs twice. She didn't come back down. She did.
- [43:45]
A
And they were like, well, should we clean up these cakes? Like, I mean, it was just. And then Shannon's just sitting back like, you know, what am I gonna do?
- [43:55]
B
I think Emily blocked me.
- [43:57]
A
Why?
- [43:57]
B
I don't know.
- [43:59]
A
Well, go over there and make her an espresso martini with shade.
- [44:02]
B
I'm an attorney, but, yeah, I don't know why. I think, you know, we always talk about the show and stuff. Some of them don't like it when you kind of make fun of them like this, you know?
- [44:10]
A
Well, let's talk about. You are. You and Katie are asshole buddies. You are best friends.
- [44:17]
B
Buddies. Like, whatever. It's like.
- [44:20]
A
And so she's back this week. Okay.
- [44:24]
B
On. I guess she has stuff to reveal.
- [44:27]
A
Cause she goes to lunch with Tamara.
- [44:29]
B
With Tamra. Yeah.
- [44:29]
A
Yeah.
- [44:30]
B
Emily wasn't happy about that. So we'll see what happens this week.
- [44:34]
A
Why don't you go out to. She. She filmed this one without my knowledge. That is a criminal offense.
- [44:40]
B
I know.
- [44:40]
A
And then she, you know, said this one was a racist about the Asian designers.
- [44:47]
B
She never actually said the word racist, though. Inappropriate, I think, was the words used.
- [44:52]
A
I really feel that was just her.
- [44:55]
B
But you remember, like, Gretchen posted the thing with Jen, though? The karate kung fu thing?
- [44:59]
A
Yeah.
- [44:59]
B
And they pulled. I mean, that was fucking bad, though. Like, I mean, that's why they pulled it, though.
- [45:04]
A
I know. Another part of that is that a lot of these people, like, you know, they spend their money on glam, but they also have some people helping them do these videos.
- [45:12]
B
Yeah, And. And sure. Yeah.
- [45:14]
A
Yeah. And then all of a sudden, something gets put out and you're like, oh, my God. I didn't think of it that way. I really just thought of, like, karate moves.
- [45:20]
B
Well, they pulled it down, so, I mean.
- [45:21]
A
Yeah. So it's like. Okay. I just feel. And I also feel like with Gina, she was just like. I thought you said you were only, you know, using Asian designers, Prada and Balenciaga. And it's just like a little diss to be like. You just want to.
- [45:36]
B
You like a weird thing for Jean to even say in a way. Like, you know what I mean?
- [45:39]
A
It was kind of like. I mean, every little. That's what's also hard is that this is a reality show. And it's like, if you're just talking and living in the moment, if everything is gonna be analyzed like a Taylor Swift album and that, oh, this really means this, because this. And then on this date, if we switch it around, it's actually an upside three, which means that you are like, I mean, come on. Like so.
- [46:00]
B
But the thing about it is, like, tell me if you agree with this. Like, I just feel like, you know, these shows, right, no matter what is Jersey any of them, right? They all get really deep. They dig deep, and it can get pretty fucking rough. Right, whatever. But, like, the fact that, like, you know, Katie was, like, not going on the Amsterdam trip or, like, not like. Or whatever was said, like, oh, there's not a place for you here. Or, like. Or to get. It's like, no, I think Alabaskin should have been like, no, bitches, buck the fuck up. This is the show. Get on with it. You're all in this together. Like this.
- [46:33]
A
But I do think that they kind of came together. This is what I think happened. I think they came together and we're like, well, but it should have been.
- [46:41]
B
Like, no, you're not controlling the show because we don't.
- [46:44]
A
Yeah, but, like, you can't force. It's not like, no, we wrote a scene for you. I mean, if it's really reality and they are like, I'm going to go.
- [46:51]
B
I think they just caved a bit, though, to it. You know what I mean?
- [46:54]
A
So anyway, you had the husband on Katie's husband. And so what now? How do you feel about the latest thing, Accusation from two T's in a pod saying that it was Sheena.
- [47:08]
B
Yeah.
- [47:08]
A
That Gretchen told Sheena that Tamara drugged her and therefore Sheena went and told Keke. And then Keke went around and told everybody that. And Katie had nothing to do with it, which is not what the original story was. So I thought that was really bad. And I'm just like, it's confusing.
- [47:28]
B
You know what I mean? Look, I mean, I go by what Katie said on the vial files or whatever, and she was like. They were like. I think Nick asked her, like, look, if there was a hill you were to die on. She's like, I will die on that hill. That I did not tell Kiki. Kiki knew that information.
- [47:43]
A
So she says Kiki met at the lunch.
- [47:46]
B
They met for lunch. But she admitted.
- [47:47]
A
This is the other thing. There was another person that went to the lunch, right? Wasn't it Kiki and a friend.
- [47:54]
B
Oh, I don't know.
- [47:55]
A
Well, I'm just like, just bring the friend in.
- [47:58]
B
I don't think there was another friend, was there?
- [48:00]
A
Maybe there was. I thought there was another friend.
- [48:01]
B
I think it was just Katie and her. I thought, oh, well, so. And I think that's like. I think that Kiki knew about it, because I just feel like everybody knows this story. I think Gretchen probably told, like, a bunch of people in the OC and all that stuff. Like, it got around. Right. I just. I think all these girls told.
- [48:20]
A
Okay, I don't think so. And I'll tell you why.
- [48:21]
B
Why?
- [48:22]
A
Because she spent the night at her house. She says it in the show, and I confirmed it. I thought maybe she didn't spend the night. Maybe they just put it. So if you spent the night and everyone was there and it's on the show saying she's spending the night, then the story of saying, I went to the hospital that night.
- [48:42]
B
No, the next day, she says, still.
- [48:43]
A
I don't think that that would make sense.
- [48:45]
B
Why did she say it then?
- [48:46]
A
I don't think she ever said it.
- [48:48]
B
We saw it on the camera in the back of the car. She said to Tamara, I went to the hospital next morning.
- [48:53]
A
She said, I mean, I should have. That's what she said.
- [48:55]
B
Not in the scene. She's like, I wasn't feeling good. I went to the hospital the next morning. She said, go back and watch it. And then Tamara said. And Tamara said. She said it twice. But the other part. The other time she said it, she wasn't on camera.
- [49:09]
A
I just think it's so weird that it was made such a big deal.
- [49:12]
B
True. Yeah.
- [49:13]
A
Like. Cause I'd be like, all right, whatever. Like, yeah, that wasn't cool, what we did. You. You. You got really sick. Like, I just. That's why I'm like. And then it was just like, it turned into lying. And I'm like, well, what happened that night was just horrible. So I don't know if they said.
- [49:28]
B
It at, like, the maestro's thing. And she said it. Big deal.
- [49:31]
A
Yeah.
- [49:32]
B
It's like. And then she could have just been like, look, Tamara, I did say to me, we're talking. We're, like, reminiscing.
- [49:37]
A
She's saying, I misspoke, but people don't want to believe that. So it gets real ugly with the boy band singer that she supposedly. Tamara supposedly did something with. And so they're bleeping out his name, so I'm not gonna say it. And then they find out that Jen had followed him, and she's like, look, you followed him. Why wouldn't you? Wouldn't you kind of want to know, like, what's the deal with this person?
- [50:05]
B
I turned it on Tamra. Like, she was like, she was like, see, this is the problem with you, Tamara. Tamara's like, you're the one that fucking followed him. Like, what are you going to have to do?
- [50:12]
A
Why didn't you follow him?
- [50:13]
B
Why did she have to follow him? Even Heather was like, why the fuck did you follow him?
- [50:16]
A
Because she said, I was hoping that maybe he'd reach out and I'd get the scoop.
- [50:19]
B
I sent him a dm.
- [50:20]
A
Listen, if we want to know the truth of who's lying, Tamara, did she do something sexual with this guy? Or is Gretchen exaggerating what was heard? Well, just tell me the truth. And maybe she was like, yeah, maybe I'll start dming with this guy and he'll go, look, my girlfriend and I at the time were on a break. Yeah, we messed up.
- [50:38]
B
Why did you say that then?
- [50:39]
A
But also, I think even if they did, she wasn't married to Eddie yet. She wasn't even engaged to Eddie yet. So I don't even think, even if it happened, it's a. I mean, how.
- [50:49]
B
Many years ago was this?
- [50:50]
A
Yeah, like, I don't think it's like.
- [50:51]
B
A back to 20 years ago, but.
- [50:54]
A
It is, it is fun to watch. It is fun. So now Alexis Bellino got married to John Jansen, who was the long suffering boyfriend of Shannon Beador for three years. And looks, they got a people exclusive. Good for them. Yeah, looked to be really beautiful. They had all their kids there, which I also think says something that all your kids show up when you both have been divorced and you know, obviously they like either one of them, which is nice. And you know, Tamara was there kicking up her heels and you know, people are like, well, then the argument would be like, yeah, but she and Alexis kind of been like close for like two years. And she's not close to Shannon. But you wonder why she's not close to Shannon. I mean, Shannon would be like, really?
- [51:46]
B
Like, that's the thing.
- [51:47]
A
You don't have to be mean to her. But do you have to like, you know, smiling at every photo and like, you know, like dancing at the wedding, like, celebrating their love. Like, do you really have to like, celebrate like. I get it, but.
- [51:59]
B
And that's why it's gonna be really hard for Shannon and Tamara to come back. I think they're never going to.
- [52:03]
A
They were.
- [52:04]
B
Listen, I thought, I think that really, when you look at that. Their friendship and so forth. I always feel like Vicki was the one that kind of kept them all together. Like she was kind of like the. The Lou that kind of was kind of the in between person of the two of them. That's why they didn't kill each other when all three of them were together. It.
- [52:20]
A
It worked where the trace of me does Da da da da da da da. Oh, my God.
- [52:27]
B
Did you see that show?
- [52:28]
A
You know what I want? I want. You know, there's so many documentaries. I don't want the documentary of how the Heiress tour was pulled. I want to know the behind the scenes of Coming up with the Tres Amigos. I want to see all of that. I want to see them sit down and go, are we really doing this?
- [52:46]
B
Yeah.
- [52:46]
A
Doing the talk.
- [52:47]
B
Did you see it?
- [52:48]
A
It was my idea.
- [52:49]
B
No, it was amazing. It just was, like, awkward. They were like this and this. And one person's arm is down here. Like, it's totally out of sync. They're not in the same place at the stage. It was just a fucking train wreck. But it was like, you know, it's one of those, like. It's like going to see Luann. You know what I mean? It's a night out. You go drink.
- [53:05]
A
Watch yourself, darling. I am a cabaret singer. I have a musical ear.
- [53:08]
B
She goes here again. She's coming in like a week or two. I think next week.
- [53:12]
A
No, I think it's next weekend.
- [53:13]
B
Is it next weekend?
- [53:14]
A
Yeah, it's a smaller show. It's not the big singing. It's like a Q and A thing.
- [53:19]
B
Oh, okay.
- [53:20]
A
I'm sure she'll sing a couple songs. As long as the bongos are there, I'm for it.
- [53:26]
B
Just out of sync.
- [53:27]
A
Yeah.
- [53:27]
B
Just not even like to the beat. So. Good. Good for her, though. What's this Year five of doing it?
- [53:34]
A
I mean, yeah, she's. She keeps going.
- [53:38]
B
Yeah.
- [53:39]
A
And yeah. Cause it's like it. I think the music is. Makes it fun, like, you know, kind of. But yes, I want to know how that all came about. I want to know how they planned it out. I want to know everything because it was just. I was like.
- [53:54]
B
But yeah, they were there. It was after the dui. Sha the net. She's having shots.
- [54:00]
A
Well, no, it was after the DUI that Then Tamara's like, I'm out of. I don't want to do it anymore.
- [54:04]
B
Because it's kind of low.
- [54:05]
A
And then they did the Dose Amigos. And now it's just going to be Shannon amigo. Because it seems like Vicki is really wanting to get back on Housewives.
- [54:15]
B
She will be back on twice.
- [54:16]
A
She had Alexis show and maybe the 20th. And so she's like, screw it. I don't hear from Shannon. Like, I'm jumping over to this. Like I said, it's like the Titanic and there's two boats and people are deciding where they should go. And right now in one, it's Tamara, Katie, Alexis, Joe de la Rosa just hopped in.
- [54:42]
B
Yeah.
- [54:43]
A
And then maybe Vicki. And so they're like, look, we have a cast right here. In the other boat is Emily, Gina and Shannon.
- [54:52]
B
So there's.
- [54:53]
A
And Heather has airlifted herself from a helicopter and gone to the.
- [54:56]
B
I think Heather's just like, not gonna come back. Next. Next.
- [54:58]
A
I'd love to see. I'd love to see Heather on Beverly Hills.
- [55:01]
B
Yeah, I think that's.
- [55:02]
A
I've never been bored by a Heather Dubrow scene.
- [55:05]
B
No, she's good. She's entertaining.
- [55:07]
A
Yeah, she's totally entertaining. She's great. She's smart. Like, so to me, comedian or not, like. Yeah, no, but she. But sitcom acting isn't being a stand up. And then she's like, do you know that I did stand up? Well, doing standup is not being a standup. But she was always very nice, came to my show and understands what it is. So I could see why she was defending herself. And she's had a great career and she is fun to watch. I don't want to see her if she leaves oc Fine. Just put her on something else.
- [55:39]
B
I think she should be on Beverly Hills. I think she'd be great on Beverly Hills.
- [55:42]
A
Yeah.
- [55:42]
B
Yeah, she'd be kind of like. That's that kind of level I feel like she's at. I think she's bored with oc. Yeah, a bit. You know, and it would be.
- [55:49]
A
It would be good. It would. I think it would be good. So anyway, they had a. A nice wedding, so. Oh, this. I just wanted to get your opinion. I just. This is just some random person's thing that came across. These were the bridesmaids outfits and they're a pantsuit with like a white pantsuit at the waist. And these girls are thin. This is just a very unflattering, like, everyone looks like they have a pooch. It's like. And I just.
- [56:21]
B
I don't know that they're trying to modernize this now. I mean, it's too like. It's like they all work in a corporate office. Like, it's. Isn't it just.
- [56:29]
A
It's Just not a flattering look. And I feel like it's kind of mature for the. All these like 20 something girls.
- [56:34]
B
But then don't the bridesmaids hate the dresses? So maybe this was like an option. I don't know.
- [56:38]
A
I don't know. You'll never make these bitches happy. But okay, Cardi B and our Dear Papa Perk. Okay, so wait. So wait, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do Nicki Minaj's first. So they have been fighting. Nicki and Cardi B and Nikki wrote Dear Culture. That's one of Cardi B's kids. Okay, truth is, I did all of this for a bigger purpose. And one day you'll understand. You're a cute child. And lots of kids have cute little funny looking gums before they grow into their features.
- [57:10]
B
What?
- [57:11]
A
One day you'll see this. So I have to say I apologize as a child of God and queen of my community who look to me for integrity. You're an innocent child and I don't deserve any of this. And you don't and don't deserve any of this. One day your mother, aunt, and many more will be brought to their knees for what they said and tried to do to my young prophet. Beautiful boy. Take care, my darling. This isn't who I am now. I don't know who wrote what first, but now I will read you Cardi B's Dear Papa Perk.
- [57:45]
B
That's the son of Nicki Minaj, I believe.
- [57:48]
A
Okay, I'm sorry that your mommy haven't cut you a birthday cake for the past three days. Cause she can't take my success or happiness. One day you going to grow up. And I hope you understand when a girl says no, it means no. And you can overcome the pedophilia blood you inherited from your grandfather, father and uncle. Please don't hate me when you grow up because your mommy rather give me more attention than she gives you. Hopefully when somebody that really cares about her puts her in rehab. Puts her in rehab and get her the help she needs. She come out and read you a book.
- [58:29]
B
She come out.
- [58:31]
A
I was just. I just was checking to see that this, that TMZ wrote this because I pre printed this because I started to read it. That's why I kind of lost track because I was like, wait, is this real or did someone do a parody? Because you thought Don Gunnell said parody was real.
- [58:48]
B
I did. Oh my God. So there was that thing. There was a thing. I was just like, Don Gulfson. Somebody did a screenshot thing. And they put their own words in, like it was his Twitter account or whatever it is, right? Making a comment saying, like, during the wedding.
- [59:01]
A
During the wedding of Lexus, Archie, hide Shannon's keys.
- [59:07]
B
I was like. Said it to Heather. I said, heather, this is really mean. Heather's like, that's a really funny account. I'm like, oh, shit, yeah.
- [59:13]
A
Did the Don Gunvalson Twitter X account.
- [59:16]
B
That's so funny.
- [59:17]
A
Parody. And they put. For a long time, they didn't put parody next to it.
- [59:21]
B
Okay.
- [59:21]
A
But people always. People sometimes thought it was him. It wasn't. Whoever it is, is super clever.
- [59:29]
B
I think this time I thought he was tweeting. I literally thought. But I'm like, he's pretty funny. He's like a bit of a smart ass.
- [59:36]
A
This is really Cardi B and Nikki and, you know these women. We are almost there with the Housewives, but they are real low. They are real, real low. And that's what Cardi B said. She goes. When they go low, I take them to hell.
- [59:53]
B
Yeah.
- [59:53]
A
So there you go. There you go. Okay. Real Housewives of Miami had a shot. So this is a photo from Bravo TV of everyone's face at the end of part one. Now, you know, I talked to Stu. He hasn't really been watching. I've been like half covering it. I did have Stephanie, the new girl on. I still like it. Cause again, it's amazing.
- [60:18]
B
Beautiful outfits.
- [60:20]
A
It's a beautiful city. But so I'm just gonna explain what is juicy. And you don't need to be watching it to know Julia, who's not featured in this photo because she was talking. Here she is, Julia.
- [60:33]
B
Okay, great. Yes.
- [60:35]
A
Says she has been at odds with this girl Adriana. Now, Adriana was one of the original Real Housewives of Miami before they took a break for seven years. And she's divorced a couple times. Has, like, a grown son, and she's 59 years old, but her facelift is very good and she looks very young. And she, too, is trying to be a singer. And Julia also decided she that her wife, the famous tennis player Martina Navratilova, okay. Is told her she liked opera once. So Julia started to do opera, which is some of the most painful housewife singing scenes ever. And she's like, everyone have a great. And she's. I don't know where Julia's from, but she has an accent, like an Eastern European accent. And she's like, I'm so excited to sing opera. So I walk to the park to sail. And Martina, who is does she make appearances on us? Oh, yeah. And she is about the most humorless. Like, I don't think she's ever laughed or cracked a smile.
- [61:45]
B
No.
- [61:46]
A
And she's 68, hardcore, harder core, hardcore lesbian. Incredible. You know, one of the greatest tennis players. And whenever someone's trying to, like, charm her, like, oh, my God, my husband's such a big fan of yours. Like, she's just. Why she's on this show, clearly, like. And Julia has. Had. Been married and had, you know, other men, then became a lesbian. Came out. Whatever. Just couldn't resist Martina. Okay? Couldn't resist Martina. And they are a couple. And then she wanted to have children because she wanted to have more children, and so she couldn't. But they adopted these two boys that are, like, the boys. So she always says the boys adopted these two boys, which are like, one and a half and three. And throughout this time, Adriana just felt like Julia wasn't being her good friend. And she's pissed because Julia, this is what always happens, is the one. I mean, Adriana is the one that got Julia on the show.
- [62:48]
B
Okay?
- [62:48]
A
They were friends before she got her on the show. Just like Lisa Barlow got Bronwyn on the show. And then you fuck me over, and I'm like, I hate you.
- [63:00]
B
Yeah.
- [63:01]
A
So anyway, she. So she's like, what? Like, why are you guys, like, getting along? And Adriana's just like, I just feel like she's gone to the dark side. She's hanging out with Alexia and Marisol, these two other girls that she doesn't like. And then Julia goes, andy, there's something I need to tell you that will give the clarification. When we were in the Hamptons, Adriana and I slept together. And everyone's like, so, okay, so that's the cliffhanger. I'm like, what is. What are we going to see this week? Is it going to be her saying it's not true?
- [63:39]
B
Yeah.
- [63:40]
A
Or I woke up and you were going down on me, and I just enjoyed it. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't an active participant.
- [63:48]
B
Yeah.
- [63:49]
A
I thought it was just a, you know, a massage that went too far. We started with tickleback, and it got into something else. I don't know. But I would tell on herself, like, she's married.
- [64:02]
B
I know, like a woman.
- [64:04]
A
But then. And then some people think Martina's gonna.
- [64:07]
B
Beat her with a tennis racket.
- [64:08]
A
You know, her own daughters aren't happy that she adopted these kids. Some people feel like, you know, now this is you know, just rumors, whatever or what. Like, did they have these kids so late in life? Martina's 68 and her. So that they, you know, she has a bigger part of Martina's life, like money, child support, whatever. It is forever. Because these kids are little, so it's a weird thing. And then to then expose this thing about your marriage, I think is so cruel to Martina. Maybe she'll say, martina said tell. Maybe Martina doesn't care. Maybe they have an open relationship. Sure, but you just adopted these kids. And I'm like. And there is a relative of these kids, I'm assuming, that are watching their kids be on the show. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I just. I don't know. I don't.
- [65:01]
B
It's, like, unnecessary for her to say so.
- [65:03]
A
I mean, this is so. You know, people.
- [65:05]
B
What was Adriana's face like when she said it?
- [65:08]
A
She was like, no, she was kind of like. Like, I think she. It. Something happened. My personal opinion is some shit happened, but it wasn't taken seriously because they were like. And then you tried to. She's like, you know, and then it. She goes, it happened once, Andy, in the Hamptons, and then in the Versace mansion. They stayed in the Versace Match one night. So, yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, she's probably fooled around with girls and was just drunk and horny and was like, whatever. And I don't know. I don't know.
- [65:40]
B
So this week now we see.
- [65:42]
A
I've never had lesbian anything.
- [65:44]
B
No.
- [65:44]
A
I once had a lesbian tell me when I was very young that the old lesbian would ever like me and that I don't have to ever worry that I gave off the most non lesbian vibes. And I was like, all right, whatever. But.
- [65:59]
B
All right, whatever.
- [66:04]
A
I don't know. But I was thinking, my God, this. You know, the show just keeps upping the ante. If we're not exposing someone's, like, failed businesses, we're like, this is. But this isn't the first lesbian thing.
- [66:16]
B
Yeah.
- [66:16]
A
The first pioneers of lesbians on the Housewives was Brandi Glanville and Denise and sang about Denise, which Denise always denied, which now Denise's husband is also supposedly gonna bring Brandi Glanville to be subpoenaed. And Charlie. Her ex, Charlie Sheen.
- [66:34]
B
Didn't somebody recently say, was it on? Oh, yeah, it was. Was it Tamara on Watch what Happens Live? That she said that, oh, Denise Richards hit on me once or something. What housewife said that?
- [66:45]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [66:46]
B
Was that recently? Yeah, I think it was Tamara Wasn't it that said that? I can't remember. It was one house. Some housewife said that. I think that did happen. Do you think that happened?
- [66:56]
A
Well, also, Tamara made out with Bronwyn, and she made out with that. Do you remember way back when, there was, like, a Brazilian girl that was a lesbian that Tamara brought on?
- [67:05]
B
Yes.
- [67:06]
A
And they were, like, messing around and making out.
- [67:09]
B
Yeah. She's into it.
- [67:10]
A
I think a lot of girls, you know, throughout their life, whether it was, like, a threesome for fun, to impress a guy, or they actually were really into it. Like, I always thought, Kyle, it wasn't her first. I don't think Morgan Wade was her first time to, you know.
- [67:27]
B
Probably not scissoring.
- [67:29]
A
I think, like, she was. Or whatever you want to call it. Like, I think she probably brought. Probably did some fun shit with Mauricio and, like, kind of was like, oh, I kind of like this.
- [67:38]
B
Sure.
- [67:39]
A
And, like, for some women, it's just like, oh, I just. I'm super sexual. Like, what do I care? Like, if the guy doesn't care? I mean, it's totally different than, you know, your husband being like, I wanted to bring the gardener in. You know? You're like, what? No.
- [67:54]
B
Like, I think I saw Mauricio last Thursday night in Beverly Hills walking down the street with a woman. Another. Another woman. I don't know who he's dating now or anything like that. I was leaving State 48, and they were, like, walking by and stuff.
- [68:06]
A
Yeah, all right.
- [68:06]
B
Yeah, I know.
- [68:07]
A
I always. See. I've seen him out with different girls, too, so, yeah, that's. Who knows when they'll ever get divorced. So there you go. Julia says that. So then she said, julia says that Adriana held their affair over her head as blackmail, being, like, if you don't do this, if you don't have my back at this place, then I'm gonna expose that we slept together.
- [68:29]
B
So she makes sense now why she said it.
- [68:32]
A
Yeah.
- [68:32]
B
Just to get out.
- [68:33]
A
So now she's like, yeah. So I kind of see it'll be interesting because, like, yeah. Will Adriana stay on the show? Will Julia stay on the show? Like, what will happen? How will they resolve this? They can't be hanging out together knowing that they, like, were sexual. And then Portia Williams, according to Page Six, revealed that she is dating a woman after divorcing her narcissist's husband, Simon. She said, I've narrowed it down to two people, one as a man and one as a woman who I'm dating right now.
- [69:07]
B
Oh, I think they just get tired of these men.
- [69:12]
A
I know.
- [69:12]
B
And they're just like, you know what? I can't deal with another fucking asshole. I'm just gonna go to a woman.
- [69:16]
A
Yeah.
- [69:17]
B
You know?
- [69:18]
A
Yeah. Do you ever feel like that?
- [69:20]
B
No. Do you know what? These days you never know. I just am so tired of the dating scene. I really am.
- [69:26]
A
What if you just became a late life straight?
- [69:28]
B
Yeah. Probably be easier, right? But then I can't deal with some women. They're just like exhausting as well.
- [69:34]
A
Yeah.
- [69:35]
B
But then if I'm kind of like a gay straight man, maybe.
- [69:38]
A
Yeah, I think you are kind of like a gay straight man.
- [69:41]
B
It's funny. Thank God.
- [69:43]
A
Okay, so Sheena and get her off my screen. You're not a fan of Sheena? I mean, she's.
- [69:52]
B
Tell me what's happening.
- [69:52]
A
Okay. She's. Look, I have a lot of fondness for both Sheena and Lala. They were very, very good friends, especially when they both gave birth to their daughters who are four. And so, you know, they were on the show together. They had each other's back. Toward the last season, some people accused them of kind of not having Ariana's back because they were like, you need to do a scene with Tom Sandoval. You're taking food out of our children's mouth. The show will die if you don't film with her and with, with him and Ariana's like, like, if we're being real, like it's a lot more real that I wouldn't want to sit down with this fucker.
- [70:37]
B
Yeah.
- [70:38]
A
Meanwhile, I follow Rachel. You know Rachel Raquel.
- [70:41]
B
Yeah.
- [70:42]
A
Besides doing her sound baths, she is just having a lovely life. She like, seriously met some really rich guys. She's going to cute weddings. Good for her.
- [70:51]
B
She's just doing sound baths. She's just peaceful life and just. Yeah, I follow her, but I mean.
- [70:55]
A
I just saw these girls, like hired her to like flew her out to do a sound Beth and I was like, it is kind of interesting. Like, let's bring like the, the girl who is the ex best friend who fucked her best friend's man for seven months. Get our, get our, our sound right. Get our sound right. People get over shit real quick. But anyway, good for her, you know. Glad she's not podcasting anymore. No, just kidding. Okay, so. So sheeda. So they're going on each other. They're going on their own podcast. Finally saying why their friendship isn't where it's at.
- [71:27]
B
Okay. And who started? Who threw the first punch?
- [71:31]
A
Do you think Sheena kind of threw the first punch?
- [71:34]
B
Okay.
- [71:34]
A
She said, all I can say is, you know something where I sent her a care package, a PR package about my book. And out of all my friends and out of all the people I sent it to, she didn't post that.
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B
Got it.
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A
I got one. I posted it. You know, So I was like, oh. Then Lala was like, all right, enough of this bullshit. Like, just because I didn't post something in your timeline doesn't mean that I haven't been a great friend for you.
- [72:05]
B
Sure.
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A
I said, congratulations on your New York Times bestseller list, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you have so much going for you, but you're never fucking happy.
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B
Okay? Fair.
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A
Okay. So then Sheena had Alex Baskin, the producer of the Valley, come on. Because people were like, oh, you know, Sheena is not on the Valley. Everyone thought it was a natural progression for Sheena and Lala and Tom Sandoval. Tom Sandoval and Lala have been rumored to possibly be dating Tom. Sorry, not Sandoval. Tom Schwartz.
- [72:39]
B
Wow. And Lala. Okay.
- [72:40]
A
Yeah. And then they did a photo. Like, this is a soft flotch. So soft. It's not real. I asked her months ago. No, it's not real. But that was months ago. So I don't know. But anyway, so then Lala said, okay. So then she has Alex. Come on. And there was rumors saying that because of everything that she exposed in her book, that Bravo's pissed. And that's why they didn't ask her to come back on the Valley.
- [73:09]
B
Got it.
- [73:09]
A
So then she gets Alex and she's like, alex, was I or was I not asked to be on the Valley? He's like, we gave. Yes, we did offer you something. And I think it was a compelling offer. And she's like, it was. But I talked to Paige desorbo, who has left Summer House, and I just was hearing her, and she goes. And then I saw a comment. She goes, it always just takes one comment. And there was a comment under, like, she made. She was on the Valley and, like, brought enchiladas or something. Her famous enchiladas. And someone wrote, sheena's like the girl in high school who graduated two years ago who keeps coming back to, like, high school parties. And she goes. And that did it. That is why Sheena said, I don't wanna film on the Valley. And I'm like, who is the bitch that wrote this? Like, what if you were the person that wrote this? And you're like, oh, my God. So she's like, I just wanna do other things. And I had so much fun being on Lopez vs Lopez, which is a sitcom, and she had a small part, and she's like, just that feeling of that.
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B
And I'm like, what now?
- [74:17]
A
Okay, well, she's taking classes at the Growler.
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B
Should we take classes?
- [74:23]
A
I already did the whole program. I can't go back. I'd be like, going back to high school.
- [74:27]
B
I did it once and I got into the accepted.
- [74:29]
A
She's like, do you know after you have to audition, you do. You have to audition. And if you don't, then they go, oh, you can take these, like, other.
- [74:36]
B
Classes to get through the audition.
- [74:38]
A
But then after that you gotta go. Then there's a second thing that each time they say, either you repeat or you do it, or you have to wait. It can take years till you're at the performing level. But anyway, no. So I kind of was like, okay, Sheena, as I'm doing my walk this weekend, I was like, okay, one little guest spot on the sitcom, which so few sitcoms are being made. Every time you open the LA Times, it's like, hollywood is dead. Like, it's a ghost town. Thank God she has a good relationship with him. Thank God. She said, never say never. She did say when Tamara, she said, no. Like, I did not start the rumor of Gretchen.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And, you know, and then she goes, and I don't know why. Tamara said it was my dream to be on the O.C. she's like, I did talk to her about how I loved living in San Diego, which isn't too far from the OC and she goes, well, you should just come on. Tamara said, you should just come on the Real Housewives of OC and she was like, oh, no. Housewives scare me. That's Sheeta's memory of it.
- [75:44]
B
Okay.
- [75:45]
A
But Tamara's like, it's her dream to be on the Real Housewives of OC and she's kind of, you know. And so that's it. And I'm like, I think with this drama with Lala. Oh, then she also said that she did gave up. They have a group of moms from the preschool that are fabulous and diverse and, you know, attractive and all this other stuff. And so Sheena gave a bunch of those names to the Valley producers. And according to Sheena, Lala was like, why would you do that? These are my friends. I don't want to go to Toes Toes. Toe to toe, whatever with these women. Like, I have to fight with everybody else. That's what the show is. And that is what the show is. It is. You try to say it's something that's not. It's not. It's fighting. It's, you know, it is fighting. So she was like, no, I don't want to. Like, I really like these women. Like, but at the same time, you shouldn't be mad at Sheena for that. Cause it's like, well, maybe these women want to be on the show and maybe I like. It is what it is. So then that was the other thing. And then the main thing is Sheena said that she revealed to Lala that Brock had a. Had the affair while she was pregnant and that she put it in her book. But she told Lala that like months before the book came out to keep it to herself. And Lala ended up telling this other girl who's like kind of on the Valley, she's a trainer, okay. And found out. And then that girl told Zach and so she was like. And then from there then Lala was like, okay, well, I guess you need your space. Cause, you know, you're mad at me, so I'm just not gonna do your show in Salt Lake City, so go ahead and do your show without me. Like, she was doing like a book tour show. And she was like, okay, you know, like I should. I do have a right to be mad. Like, she felt like it was true. So that's the whole.
- [77:41]
B
That's where.
- [77:41]
A
That's the fight. And it's like, it feels like it was one of those things that, that there was a lot of things that was bugging each other about each other and they weren't addressing it at the time.
- [77:53]
B
Yeah.
- [77:53]
A
And then it was building, building, building. And then you put a reality show into it and opportunity and all of this.
- [78:00]
B
It's crazy, though, that she did that. She wouldn't go on the Valley and refuse to go on. Isn't that crazy to me?
- [78:06]
A
I'm guessing that whatever the offer was was something like, like a friend of, maybe friend of. Or like your. Your day rate is $2,500 show or something. Something. And she kind of was like, well, I, you know, maybe she looked at it and she's like, well, it's, you know, I could live without $30,000 maximum. Whatever. Maybe it wasn't that much. Maybe it was $10,000 a day, I don't know. And I think maybe she just looked at the dollar and was like, I, I'm a New York Times best selling author now. I want to try to do other things. But that's where I'm like, don't let these comments, like, these people. Yeah, that girl that wrote that or that guy.
- [78:46]
B
Yeah.
- [78:47]
A
They're, like, living their life. Like, they're like, I don't know. I think she should have gone on it.
- [78:53]
B
So do I.
- [78:54]
A
And, like, you know, you just never.
- [78:55]
B
Know when these things are going to end and you don't get asked back again, and it's over, you know, and it's. I don't know.
- [79:00]
A
And it does keep you relevant. I mean, and that's what you are. You're a reality person. And she said the same thing. You know, Alex, before I started, I wanted to be an actress. I was pursuing acting, and I was booking acting. I get that. But now you're. It's like, now you're a personality, and no one's gonna really see you. I think it's a very hard thing for people to see you acting in a role.
- [79:26]
B
Danita really put her on Dancing with the Stars and just put it to bed. I mean, we all want to see it.
- [79:32]
A
Yeah.
- [79:33]
B
Do you know what I mean?
- [79:35]
A
I think she will.
- [79:35]
B
Do you think they'd vote her off first? Just be awful?
- [79:38]
A
I bet she is on next season.
- [79:40]
B
Yeah.
- [79:40]
A
And then I think she goes back on Valley the following year.
- [79:43]
B
Okay.
- [79:44]
A
That's my prediction. But, I mean, they have these houses together next door to each other in Palm Springs, and people are like, that's gonna be so weird. And I'm like, not really now.
- [79:58]
B
If they're there at the same time. If they're not there, it doesn't. Yeah. They don't have to see each other.
- [80:02]
A
They don't have to see each other. I mean, like, yeah, and. But. And the little girls hopefully can still play and whatever. But it's. So that's the whole story there. And I just feel like it's a real shame that, like, it got to this place. Like, pick up the phone.
- [80:18]
B
I know, it's. It's just silliness. I hate these grudges and these fights and stuff. Like, I just pick up the phone. What, under the bridge.
- [80:24]
A
Just move on. So I was praising Teresa for cleaning toilets. She had to clean toilets on special, special places. But she finally just said it and she left. She, too, just, like, Brittany was, like, hiking up a hill carrying something heavy. And now these people are yelling, and I'm like, listen, she's fit, but she's 55. Like, it's hard. Like, it's hard physical work.
- [80:48]
B
If you knew you were going on that show, you get yourself Into a gym, you get yourself a trainer.
- [80:52]
A
I know. But at a certain point, though, it's like, I need to know, because I know they all get, like, a chunk of money, and then I don't know. If you get more money each day you stay. You should.
- [81:03]
B
Yeah, you probably do.
- [81:04]
A
So there's a motivation. And then you should probably get a big chunk if you win it. Yeah, I would think, but. And then they had Gia talking to the special forces guy. I saw that. And that was really. That is still. One of the greatest moments is when she comes home from prison and the girls come running. Like, Gia is like. It was interesting to see Gia recognize. Like, my mom went to prison when I was 13.
- [81:32]
B
It's crazy.
- [81:32]
A
And she. There's such that. Older. Like, the whole thing of being the girl in Italian family and being the oldest girl in the Italian family that, like, I hear from, like, Italian, you know, Americans all the time, like, they had to, like, make their brother's bed and stuff, like, do all these things where it's just like. Like, you are just gonna be their maid, which is what I think is, like, Theresa. That's the real beef. Theresa's probably still pissed that she had to make Joe Gorga's bed, like, when they were little. And she's like, I don't care that you're on the show because I had to fucking make up your bed when you were 10 and I was 12. Make her own bed. And then they said, so, yeah, so she had to, like, obviously take care of the kids and stuff. And then, I mean, little Gia. A little girl.
- [82:15]
B
Who's that? Is that Teresa or Gia?
- [82:17]
A
No, that's Theresa.
- [82:18]
B
Okay.
- [82:19]
A
And then she said, a source says that Teresa is genuine in her desire to make amends with Joe. And Melissa Gorga insists she isn't desperate to stay. Well, the only reason that you'd make up with them is to all be back on tv.
- [82:33]
B
Yeah, but I heard this as well. And didn't Melissa say. No, that's not true. There's been no. Yeah, we don't want to do that. Like, whatever it is. I heard she's getting a spin off Theresa is like, she's gonna be paired up with new people.
- [82:47]
A
No, I just don't think. I just don't see how you could ever trust each other at this point, that they're truly happy for you, and you would know that if something bad happened that the other sibling would be dancing for joy.
- [83:04]
B
Yeah.
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A
And I think you just can't deny, like, there's no way that's that that's gonna change. So it's like, if you wanna do it, you just be like, hey, let's just start from scratch and make some cheddar and do the stupid show again.
- [83:18]
B
She just can't. Like, she just can't see what she does wrong. Like, she just can't take responsibility for. You know what I mean? It's like, it's one. Yeah.
- [83:26]
A
Yeah. It's always that. Anyway, I don't know what's going on with Chrissy. Yeah. Chrissy Balls is so funny. And she's on TikTok and she's like, what is going on with David Beckham's face?
- [83:38]
B
I saw this.
- [83:39]
A
I think he just got a lot of filler.
- [83:42]
B
Yeah.
- [83:44]
A
Because it, like, changed the shape of his eyes.
- [83:46]
B
And that's the thing. Yeah. Botox around your eyes can make your whole face look different.
- [83:50]
A
Today was. This week was Paris week. And Heidi Klum went with the sheer naked look. I mean, can we. That is out, right? Like, are we done with the bathing suit under?
- [84:02]
B
I don't see, like, this. Like, look at that. I don't want to see that.
- [84:04]
A
Like, you are supermodel. You're gorgeous. Like, and it's such an unoriginal look.
- [84:10]
B
Yeah.
- [84:10]
A
Like, to where she. I hate it when housewives do it where they wear the bikini underneath. And, like, and then. And then I can't. And then Meghan Markle went, and she would just wore all white. And I still keep saying, like, I just.
- [84:27]
B
There's gonna be no more Netflix shows with her.
- [84:30]
A
So I guess I did not see it, but I guess Prince William just did an interview and someone wrote, like, God, you know, you're right, Heather. Like, why. Why did they let this get so out of hand? Because I just think they could have had it all.
- [84:44]
B
Yeah.
- [84:44]
A
They could have been the royals. They could have also done some other fun things because she's a California girl. She could have been like, hey, I want to spend just like, you know, a president goes to their ranch in Texas or whatever. Like, Bush did. I want to spend the summers in.
- [85:01]
B
Santa Barbara or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
- [85:03]
A
Like, and I want to do other things. And I. She could have had her own cooking show where she, like, cooked whatever American food or English food or whatever, if that's really what she wanted to do. I mean, I said when she first did, I was like, oh, she'll have like, an Oprah show in England. Like a talk show, like a podcast talk show. That didn't. She tried it here. That didn't work. Then she's like, I'll just cook and make my dried flowers all the time.
- [85:28]
B
Yeah. And then she redid another podcast. Is that done now? Remember the CEO women? She would have CEO women that's done.
- [85:36]
A
They do seasons. I'm like. And it's like. And then you listen to the end of the podcast. It's like, 18 people worked on it. I'm like, what? Why is there 18 people working on this thing? This is like, such sound editing by so and so, set direction by da da da executive producer. I'm like, oh, my God. You, like, talked to someone on Zoom that someone wrote you out questions like, what are you talking about? No, I don't know. I mean, she is wearing all white. At least she's covered up and she gets to go to Paris. I mean, at least she's not wearing a sheer outfit. I think she's covered up, and I just feel like. Anyway, Megan, I don't know what I'm gonna do with you. Do you think the dried flowers is a hit?
- [86:19]
B
No, it's not.
- [86:20]
A
What happened to the jam?
- [86:21]
B
I didn't even. Well, it was made in Ohio. It's not made in fucking her backyard in Monacito. Like, it was made in some factory.
- [86:28]
A
In Ohio or Ojai, Ohio, like, in.
- [86:32]
B
Somewhere in the Midwest. No, the jam is not from fucking Santa Barbara. From, like. No, it's not from the hedges. No, it's farms in the Midwest. They bottled it and jarred it and whatever. Yeah, I. I didn't even watch the seconds. I watched, like, one or two episodes. It's beyond. It's beyond. It's just so bad and terrible. And then, like, Chrissy Teigen is on it as well, and she's even annoyed with her. Like, it's just. Do you know what I mean? It's just, like. And it's just so uncomfortable to watch. And it's like, I feel like they're all terrified of her.
- [87:06]
A
Wait, whatever happened with Chrissy Teigen? Did she just, like. I know I stopped following her or we blocked each other or whatever. But, like, did she just stop with, like, making her pots and pans and stuff?
- [87:15]
B
Yeah, she did. She had a really good run. Like, she had, like, three cooks out, I think.
- [87:19]
A
Well, it was fun because Courtney Stoddard reminded the world that she said, go take a dirt nap.
- [87:24]
B
Oh, yeah. Didn't she? Oh, I know. She said something racist, didn't she? Or something on Twitter.
- [87:29]
A
No, she was just always making fun of Courtney Stodden as a teen bride. And then Courtney Stodden kept bringing it up and reminding everybody she was supposed.
- [87:38]
B
To have been the R word.
- [87:39]
A
I think she did all that stuff, like, on Twitter. And then she would write kind of weird things where people thought it was, like, child corn or whatever. Like, trying to say, like, oh, I. You know, I just watched Toddlers and Tiaras and I need to be locked up or whatever. Like, I still think that she, again, thought she was funny, like a Heather Dubrow. And she was kind of, like, she was really obsessed with Chelsea. And I think she was trying to do those kind of jokes. And I don't think then they came back to hunt her years later. But I know someone's gonna write, you're wrong. She did this. I don't know. I just. She was thirsty.
- [88:20]
B
There was something. There was one specific comment she said. I think that kind of canceled her. I can't remember what it was.
- [88:25]
A
She was just really thirsty, and people were just like.
- [88:29]
B
She had a really, like, hot, like, moment. Like, remember she did, like, the Fab Live for a bit, and then she was doing that one with, you know, they're all dancing with Ice T or LL Cool J. What was that? Do you know the show? She was hosting the show.
- [88:41]
A
Oh, yes. With karaoke.
- [88:43]
B
Yes. It was like you came on, you dressed up as the person. Remember, like, Ramona did it as, like, Britney Spears or something like that. It was crazy. But. And then, like, she had, like, the cookbooks. She had the great line of. And the stuff was really nice at Target. Like, it was actually really good shit. And now it's, like, gone.
- [88:59]
A
Well, I guess she can't drive either, because John Legend had to drop her off, and he just peaked her on the corner, like, hi. And then. And then they did their thing. And, you know, she was like, you know, I made. I love Thai tea, Chrissy. So she made her a Thai tee because Chrissy's Thai.
- [89:17]
B
But the best is, like, what I always find with that Meghan Markle show. It's like, you know, I have my best friend, like, such. And Susie coming over, and it's like, you know, and then she sees them, and it's like, oh, my God, we haven't seen each other in years. I thought you guys were best friends. Like, it just like, whoever's editing it, like, is fucking her.
- [89:35]
A
Yeah. Like, they don't know each other at all. Yeah.
- [89:39]
B
It's like, that's the train. You burn that girl in season one. And I talked about it. It's like she came over, she's like, oh, my God, you're so tall. And it's like, I thought you were her best friend. Like, did you not see her before?
- [89:49]
A
Like, and then it's always like, we're just gonna take something out of the fridge and see what we can make of it. I'm like.
- [89:56]
B
And she's like, you know what I love, like doing these dipped scarves and stuff with that now. Oh my God.
- [90:01]
A
When she.
- [90:01]
B
And then she's like trying to do like tie dye, tie dyed scarves, she's like, I love doing this now. I haven't done this before. So that's why I'm making you doing it with me. Wait, you just said, no, go back and watch it. Like, it's just like, what? Like the producers. I think the producers are terrified of her. They're not being like, hey, Meghan, you just said that you do this all the time. So we can't really say the stuff ourselves.
- [90:21]
A
I can't imagine, like, we always do, like, girls dinners. I can't imagine if somebody just came and like, was like, here, Heather, I made you a tie dye scarf for my house. And then I wrapped it, an old burlap for wrapping paper. And I'd be like. And then I also made you like a homemade loaf of sourdough bread. I'm like, when there's like a gorgeous French bakery down this, like, what are you doing?
- [90:49]
B
I know, it's why. It's just not believable. Unfortunately, it's not aspirational. People are just annoyed by her. I just. She's just not. And the thing about it is, me, my producer friend, we would always talk about it, like, what is it? Like, why am I not liking this? Because she's not talking to us down the camera lens. She's not talking to us and teaching us so we're disconnected from it. And she seems like we're like a second gesture. Do you know what I mean? She's talking to the producers behind the recording.
- [91:18]
A
Do you think that she'll ever go back to acting or be on what will come first, A legit acting role or like a Real Housewife type of show?
- [91:30]
B
Um, I think, I mean, there's still.
- [91:32]
A
An interest that she'd have to move.
- [91:35]
B
I. I think she could be an actress. I think she. I think she was decent at doing that and I think she could have actually excelled in that.
- [91:42]
A
Well, funny that you ask. Cause she just signed up for classes at the Groundlings. Chrissy Teigen, Meghan Markle and Heather Dubrow. Wait, who was the other one that I said that? We just were talking about Gina. Who else did I say? They're gonna go on a comedy tour.
- [92:03]
B
Oh, Sheena.
- [92:04]
A
Oh, Sheena. Yeah, Sheena. Yeah.
- [92:06]
B
Oh, my God.
- [92:07]
A
No, but she like. Yeah, Sheena. Yeah. They all. They all are talented, but whatever. Let's see. All right. Tell everybody you have your own podcast. How can they listen?
- [92:18]
B
Don't let it stew. It's on Spotify, Apple, whatever. I have lines of seasoning spices. Chefstewart.com I should do a code or something. Heather 20. Yeah, like juicy 20. Yeah, juicy 20.
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A
Will you remember to do that?
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B
I'll do right now.
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A
Okay.
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B
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A
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like so great when you just, like, you know, have, like, a chicken breast. Whatever.
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B
So code juicy 20. 20 off.
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A
And.
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B
Yeah. Chefstewer.com and that's it.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Thanks so much again.
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A
Bye.
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