Taylor Swift Texts, Victoria Beckham, Queer Eye Drama with DJ Hungry Human

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Episode: Taylor Swift Texts, Victoria Beckham, Queer Eye Drama with DJ Hungry Human
Date: January 22, 2026
Guests: Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)
Main Theme:
Heather McDonald and DJ Hungry Human (Addie Flynn) dive into several of 2026's juiciest ongoing pop culture dramas, including the Taylor Swift/Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni controversy, Victoria Beckham family fallout, and behind-the-scenes Feuding on “Queer Eye.” The conversation is unfiltered and irreverent, with sharp wit and keen observations on celebrity behavior and media spectacle.

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Overview

Heather and Addie break down explosive celebrity group texts, the crumbling of famous friendships, generational family showdowns, and hidden feuds in reality TV. They provide context, speculate about motivations, and extract life lessons—always with humor and a deep knowledge of celebrity gossip lore.

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1. Taylor Swift, Blake Lively, and Justin Baldoni – The "It Ends With Us" Scandal

(Begins at 04:08)

Background

• The group analyzes leaked court evidence from the “It Ends With Us” lawsuit, showcasing dramatic text exchanges between Taylor Swift, Blake Lively, Jenny Slate, and others involved in the film's production.
• The conversation centers around whether the texts make Taylor look bad, if Blake orchestrated the drama, and why the whole mess exploded.

Key Topics & Insights

• The text messages are full of petty complaints, with little actual evidence of the serious accusations initially launched (sexual harassment, abuse of power).

  • Heather: “It does not make Taylor look good.” (04:30)
  • Addie: “Now, all of this has happened, it's been unleashed, and there’s a lot to go through.” (05:03)

• Blake Lively is portrayed as manipulative and power-hungry, stirring up co-stars and overstepping her role.

  • Addie: “I think that she started…manipulating people behind the scenes…she really wanted to have control…she started nitpicking every single little thing that was said." (08:59)

• A pattern of mean girl behavior emerges, with Taylor and Blake hyping each other up to undermine Justin Baldoni.

  • Heather: "Taylor’s like, we're going to show the world what happens when someone's a hypocrite...Of course, it's the men." (15:48)
  • Addie: “She looks like a huge liar because she tried to distance herself from that…But now, obviously, we’re reading through the text messages.” (15:53)

• The lawsuit drama is seen as self-sabotage:

  • Heather: "Why did you bring up the sexual harassment part of the suit and story to begin?" (11:27)

• The reality versus the accusation:

  • The texts reveal pettiness and complaints, not evidence of harassment.
  • The “mean girl” energy is compared to high school; the crossover between real-life behavior and how celebrities weaponize their power is noted.
    • Heather: “There is nothing more dangerous than a hated, bullied nerd who gets some fucking power.” (14:56)

Notable Quotes

• “It's not like, ‘he fucking walked in while I was breastfeeding...He wants me not to have underwear on when I do the birth scene.’ There was none of that.” – Heather (11:27)
• “They became obsessed with hating him…I'm sure Taylor Swift is regretting getting involved in this. This is unheard of, something of her level.” – Addie (12:32)

Important Segments

• Manifesting a Lifetime Movie vs. Documentary: Heather jokes she wants the saga dramatized, not a doc (06:15).
• Roles of Women in Drama: How female friendships within the entertainment industry escalate conflict (10:12).
• Taylor “Dragon” Allegory: Taylor brags about being "the dragon"—Blake’s backup and musical ally (28:08).
• Blake's Power Moves: Manipulation through social clout—musicians, casting, and celebrity endorsements (29:18).
• Ben Affleck Letter: Blake’s cringe-worthy outreach, looping in Hollywood power players like the Afflecks and Anna Wintour (30:05).

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2. Victoria Beckham, Brooklyn, & The Peltz Family Feud

(Starts at 37:38)

Background

• Brooklyn Beckham (David and Victoria's son) and wife Nicola Peltz (heiress, actress) have publicly distanced themselves from the Beckham family, triggering speculation and meme-worthy social media posts.

Key Points

• Brooklyn & Nicola accused the Beckhams of trying to "use them" for family image and shunned them from private events.

  • Heather: “They have felt used by my family wanting to parade us as the perfect family…they've hurt my wife, who’s the most important thing many times.” (39:46)

• Drama at their wedding: Alleged snub by Victoria (the wedding dress) and an awkward mother-son dance during what was meant to be Brooklyn and Nicola's first dance.

  • “The memes have been everywhere. I think that’s the worst part of the exposure…Release the tapes!” – Addie (40:39)
  • “I feel like once you get to a certain level with your son's wife...You're not going to come back from that.” – Heather (41:47)

• Mother-in-law dynamics and in-law psychology are discussed, with Heather cautioning both mothers and daughters-in-law.

  • “Karma's a bitch. When you have a little boy and you're mean to your mother-in-law…you’re going to be the in-law.” – Heather (49:27)
  • “It's very Meghan Markle coded, honestly. You knew the family you were marrying into.” – Addie (50:34)

• The public airing of grievances is debated—should family feuds go public?

  • “I just think it’s really sad. And I am…I don't think you should air…your families.” – Heather (53:08)

• Addie claims hairstylists know all and references industry gossip backing up claims Nicola may be difficult.

  • “He said Nicola was a bad apple, totally supports the Beckham family, said she was…most entitled, awful people…” (55:51)
  • Addie recalls old rumors of Nicola (possibly apocryphal), e.g., “as a child, she pushed her nanny down the stairs.” (56:40)

Fun Fact

• Discussion of David Beckham's "Brooklyn" tramp stamp (54:32).

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3. Queer Eye’s Tumultuous Finale & Karamo Drama

(Starts at 59:01)

Background

• The Netflix reboot of "Queer Eye" launches its final season without Karamo, who sends in a video statement about “protecting his mental health.” The rest of the Fab Five squirm on morning TV couches and maintain a tightly scripted front.

Key Points

• Karamo skips press, sending a video about prioritizing mental health over toxic workspaces.

  • “I need to do what I do best, and that’s protect my mental health…and I cannot be in a place that is not safe for me mentally.” (60:16)
  • The rest of the cast are awkward, hold hands (“like they were about to get bad news from a doctor”), and stick to PR lines.
  • Addie: “Is there an age limit on being bullied? Like, you're a grown man and look at who you're being bullied by…” (67:53)

• Past “Queer Eye” drama is recapped—multiple cast feuds, leaks to the press, speculation about favoritism, and brand deals.

• Heather compares Karamo’s move to Lisa Vanderpump “not showing up to the reunion” to control the narrative (69:25).

• “Just show up and do your job. You know you're going to do a pre-taped. But I think it's hilarious, right? I think on a petty level, like, it's really funny.” – Addie (68:50)

• The “Wicked press tour” vibe: “Why are you all so weepy? Emotional and like, you know, and I'm like, my God, shouldn't it be fun?” – Addie (72:26)

• Heather and Addie agree “movie and TV sets aren’t fun,” and reality TV feuds today have lost none of their entertainment value.

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4. Meghan Markle’s Netflix Flop & Hollywood Pivots

(74:40 on)

Key Points

• Meghan Markle’s Netflix show is axed after two split seasons, with the hosts poking fun at the curated image and “insight” Markle offers.
  • “I didn't have time to do that and be a mom and be a podcast host and tell exciting things…” – Heather (75:24)
  • “She’s a legend in her own mind for sure.” – Addie (79:09)
• Recap segments troll Meghan’s affected storytelling and try-hard relatability.
• Speculation about future career moves—brand deals, eventual “get ready with me” content, and the “inevitable” ensemble reality show for Markle by 2028.

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There is nothing more dangerous than a hated, bullied nerd who gets some fucking power.” – Heather (14:56)
• “I think sometimes what people don't realize, which is so different with men and women, is that women, we like to talk everything out, and we confide and we fester, and it becomes something.” – Heather (10:12)
• “You cannot have it both ways. Were you in control, or was he in control?” – Addie (12:11)
• “Release the tapes! I mean, I want to see the tapes too.” – Addie (40:39)
• “Karma’s a bitch. When you have a little boy and you're mean to your mother-in-law…you’re going to be the in-law.” – Heather (49:39)
• “Just because you need more details…you could not be more accepted and loved by everybody…They were mean.” – Heather (68:41)
• “She’s a legend in her own mind for sure.” – Addie (79:09)

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6. Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:08 – Taylor Swift, Blake Lively & Justin Baldoni legal drama
• 13:19 – Taylor’s role in the controversy
• 30:05 – Blake’s letter to Ben Affleck
• 37:38 – Beckham-Peltz family feud begins
• 46:34 – Mother-in-law commentary
• 59:01 – Queer Eye press drama, Karamo absent
• 74:40 – Meghan Markle show canceled, Hollywood pivots

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7. Tone & Language

Unfiltered, savvy, and direct, Heather and Addie veer from sarcastic breakdowns to honest takes—often jumping into the shoes of the celebrities they mock. Heather’s signature “manifest, mama!” optimism punctuates the episode, contrasting with the duo’s scathing pop-culture commentary.

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8. Additional Hot Takes

• The social currency of pop star feuds outpaces the relevance of the media platforms themselves.
• Both agree that behind-the-scenes female feuds often drive the drama, and the same patterns repeat from generations past.
• In-laws, public feuds, and cancel culture—2026’s celebrity playbook hasn't changed, just the platforms and stakes.
• The era of “mental health” as a justification—for anything from skipping press to exiting reality shows—is pervasive and ripe for satire.

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9. Where to Find the Guest

• Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human): TikTok: DJ Hungry Human and YouTube

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For anyone who missed the episode, this summary delivers a play-by-play guide to all the piping hot gossip, cultural commentary, and memorable quips that define the Juicy Scoop experience! 🎤

Transcript

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[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

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[Heather McDonald]

Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, my God, we have been blessed. We have so much scoop to discuss. I have a new guest who you will absolutely love. If you are not aware of her already, Addie Flynn, known as DJ Hungry Human. Found you on TikTok probably like a year and a half ago. And from Boston with Boston Logic, Tell it like it Is takes on pop culture. Welcome to Juicy Scoop.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Thanks. I'm very excited to be here and I agree. I feel like we've been blessed.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. We've been talking on the phone leading up to this appearance and I'm so grateful you flew out for it. And I was like, oh, I'll send you some stuff, we'll talk about this. That then it was just like yesterday was just a flood of info. So I think we just get into it. Cause there's so much to cover. First of all, we don't even know of the five things what we were to do first. But I think we first have to say. Oh, first I have to say, you guys, a really exciting thing's happening to me. Let's make it about me. Juicy Scoop has been chosen by Netflix. They requested a live Juicy Scoop to be in the. Netflix is a joke festival. I have never performed in this festival before. As an LA native and a longtime comedian, I'm really flattered to be asked to be in it. But I need all of you to go and buy the tickets because I want to have the best show ever and I don't want you to miss out. And they are going to be on sale. If you're a part of Patreon, you can go right now. And the code is on my [e-mail] if not, I believe you can buy them later today or Friday at. And it is the best night of the festival. Saturday, May 9th at the Avalon Theater in Hollywood at 7pm and I secured your favorites. Chris, Frangola and Brandi and Julie will all be there. I cannot add another show. This is it. So please get your tickets, plan your weekends, get your girls, plan your. How fun is la? Just in LA right now, girl. Like, you want to have a fun weekend? Maybe you can come back that weekend.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I would love to. All right, so.

[Heather McDonald]

So you guys, the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni scoop is out of control because I believe all of it came forward because the trial actually starts today that when you're airing this the 22nd of January, right?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Today's the 21st.

[Heather McDonald]

I know, but this airs the 22nd.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Okay, I'm sorry.

[Heather McDonald]

So it will be. The trial is starting and I guess that's why all the text messages. We were always wondering, would we have access to the Taylor Swift Blake Lively text messages that the Justin side had requested? Yes, we are seeing them. We are reading them. There is so much correspondence, and I don't even know where to begin. But I will say it does not make Taylor look good.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

No, it doesn't. And I had no idea. Like, I didn't know that there was so much information that was going to come out because there was sort of like a lull.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Like, it's a lot to keep up with. It was tidbits here and there. And yeah, now, like, all of this has happened has been unleashed and there's a lot to go through.

[Heather McDonald]

Now, when you were doing your very creative, funny takes on pop culture on TikTok, you kind of peaked because you are a Boston florist. I am much like the lead in it ends with us, which is the role that Blake Lively played based on the book.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, that's what was so funny about it. And I never really talked about that, but the reason that I was aware of the book is because my friend who's a writer, she's like, you have to read this book. It's the most ridiculous book. It's about, like a stunt steampunk florist. The book's really corny. And I read the book because I'm a florist, and it took place in Boston. And so I kind of had this on my radar. And then of course, like, when this all blew up, it's like the. It's like the ultimate pop culture story. Especially because I don't think we knew that Blake Lively was like such a monster. And it was almost like the perfect storm with Justin Baldoni. And then just how this all unfolded. And I don't think we would know a lot about it if she hadn't made such a big deal about it and then started this entire lawsuit. I don't know that she really thought this through.

[Heather McDonald]

This is what I want because I am manifesting, Mama. So I manifest things that have now starting to come true. A lot of people are asking for more of this Persona of mine, and I am manifesting just a simple Lifetime movie. I recently saw that Netflix obtained a Lifetime movie called the Melanie McGuire murder thing. And I covered it for Juicy Crimes. But it was kind of interesting to see them put it together in like a 90 minute thing. So I want to have the Lifetime movie or I need a scripted, more hardcore limited series. What I don't need is the documentary because I've been living it. There's nothing they can tell us. I don't want to see everybody that I know and I follow somebody sitting down, walking in while. No. While the camera's on an empty seat. Are we really doing this? I don't need to see it anymore. But I do want you to see the scripted story of. Of what happened. I need to know who's going to play Ryan. Ryan. Ryan Reynolds. Who's going to play Blake? Who's going to play Taylor?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, I'm also wondering, like, when Justin b. When they. When this is all settled.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Are we going to hear from Justin Baldoni? Because we haven't really heard his side of things. Now we're reading through all of these text messages with Blake Taylor, Jenny Slate, but we have. I know it's crazy. And so we haven't really heard from Justin Baldoni. I mean, we were reading through the text and we're seeing his side of things. But I'm very curious to hear from him once this is kind of all settled. But yes, I would also be into some sort of Lifetime movie.

[Heather McDonald]

Of course. Of course. You gotta see it. So we. Let's just start first with Jenny Slate, who played Justin Baldoni's sister in the film. And she was sort of silent in all of it. And when she. She played the role opposite Michelle Williams in the critically acclaimed they Won all the Awards Dying for Sex series.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yep.

[Heather McDonald]

And my friend was. Was the writer, producer of it Podcast it. She was the one, the friend that Jenny Slate played. And there was not a lot of press that Jenny Slate did for that didn't affect the winnings because this was all going on and she wanted to stay silent. But at that time, I did find out that she was felt Blake was in the right. That he was annoying and weird.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And now that has been proven that she did not enjoy her time on set with him.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I think that Blake whipped these people up.

[Heather McDonald]

I do too.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Know what I mean? I think that he was probably kind of annoying or off putting to her. He definitely has like the feminist thing going on, which I. I don't. They seem to have a problem with that. Like, he wasn't living up to that. So I think there was probably like rumblings and maybe some like personality conflicts that were happening anyways. And then I think Blake really wanted. I think she wanted the sequel. I think that she really wanted to have control. She wanted to take over the entire project. So I think that she started kind of, in my opinion, manipulating people behind the scenes. That includes Jenny Slate. There is a back and forth with her and Jenny Slate or Jenny Slate apparently made some like offhand comment about her Airbnb and like that it wasn't conducive to like having sex. Something. Something along those lines. It was probably just, like I said, a one off comment. She then went and apologized to Blake Lively. So I think that they had kind of like this heightened, like, sorry, Jenny Slate apologies. Slate had said, like, oh, I'm sorry that I said that. So I think that they kind of started nitpicking every single little thing that was said. And so to your point, I think that it kind of like started innocently enough and then as it ramped up and it became more serious, the accusations became a little bit more pointed.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I think sometimes what people don't realize, which is so different with men and women, is that women, we like to talk everything out, and we confide and we fester, and it becomes something. It's like, the same sometimes, you know? Yeah. Whether it's like, a couple bad apples, whatever. And I think. Yeah, I think she. I think she is kind of, like, knows how to be a really great girlfriend and can kind of bring in these women, whether it's Colleen Hoover, Jenny Slate, Isabella, who played the younger version of her, to kind of put the seedings in their brain of, like, oh, my God, wasn't that annoying? And, you know.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

And mostly what people are saying that have really covered the case and everything that's come out is that in all of these correspondence in Blake complaining about Justin being the director and her not enjoying that and being the producer and her feeling like she deserves that pga, which is the. You know, to prove that she has a producer on it for all the reasons why. It's just that he was like a doofus, a dork, a clown. Um, oh, why doesn't he spend more time trimming his hair? And, like, all these, like, comments. It's not like, wow, he fucking walked in while I was breastfeeding.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

He wants me not to have underwear on when I do the birth scene. There was none of that. Well, and I think there's none of there. So that's where people are like, so then why did you bring up the sexual harassment part of the suit and story to begin?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right. Well, and she wanted that credit. So the flip side of that is she's trying to act like she had complete control over that set. I had to take over every. Everything. I had to take over the writing. I had to review the dailies. I had to. She was.

[Heather McDonald]

That I had to deal with, like, human resources. Meaning, like, she acts like she had to settle the nerves of the other women on set because they were all so bothered by him. But actually, would they have ever even noticed or said anything had someone not.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Been like, yeah, and you can't have it both ways.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Were you in control or was he in control? Was he in control and then he was victimizing all of you guys, or were you the one that had to take over the entire project because he was completely incapable? And so I think that that's. That's the problem with a lot of. A lot of the emails and the text messages is it doesn't align with what. What she said in the beginning and the reason that she launched this entire lawsuit.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I agree with you. It's. It seems like they were obsessed with him. Like, they became, like, obsessed with hating him. And yeah, everybody just kind of got whipped up and it became something that it really wasn't. And I'm sure that, you know that Taylor Swift is regretting getting involved in this. This is like, this is unheard of. Something of her level.

[Heather McDonald]

Also, I do think that Jenny. There was some correspondence for Jenny Slate said, I asked my Insta assistant to unfollow him.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

She asked them all to unfollow. Like, Colleen Hoover came out and said that Blake asked her to unfollow him. And Ryan talked about it too. Like, they obviously wanted it presented as though everybody had a problem with him. But like you said, nobody was really coming out and saying that. But that was part of the plan as well.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. And then. Okay, so let's talk about the Taylor Swift of it all.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

So she and Taylor have been friends. Blake and Taylor have been for years. I believe she's a godmother for one of the four kids. And even at one point, I remember Blake was in reading all about this, held up some point of production because she wanted to fly and go to the Eras tour, or she said she was sick. But then she was actually at the Heiress tour during those weeks of production or pre production anyway, they were very, very close. And we knew that these texts were coming and we haven't really seen them together in the last year. And everyone's figuring, like, oh, my God. Taylor's probably like, why the fuck did I get dragged into this? Stop calling me your dragon, you weird loser. Like, I just thought it was fun to have some friends. But other people that are not swifties have accused Taylor in the past of not necessarily supporting younger female artists kind of doing subtle shit upons. And sometimes, you know, when a. When a younger artist is about to drop their album, she's like, guess what? There's some hidden versions of songs that nobody knew about that I'm actually gonna drop on the same Tuesday. And, like, people are like, God, why would you do that? Like, you know, and I always just remember, like, her story of where she was not liked in high school, probably because she was so talented and girls are bitchy and jealous and. And then when she became a star, she, like, invited all of those girls to, like, get in the front row where she could perform and whatever.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

So I think when someone doesn't have a good high school experience, my God, can that follow you for the rest of your life? And then when you become successful, there is nothing more dangerous than a hated, bullied nerd who gets some fucking power. Whether It's a man or a woman. And I'm like, so finally she gets this cool girl Blake. And Blake is cool. She has a cool husband. They're a good fucking time. And she likes having that friendship. And in the correspondence, she is down to do whatever Blake asks of her. And she is like, oh, my God, let's talk about this fake feminist. And, oh, you know, and then it's like, oh, but of course. Blake's like, but of course I'm the horrible one. And she's like, I know. We're going to show the world coaching her almost. Yeah, we're going to show the world. Taylor's like, we're going to show the world what happens when someone's a hypocrite. And, you know, of course it's the men. Da, da, da.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And I'm sure she's regretting it now. And that's why there was. I think the other thing is that's going on now is that she looks like a huge liar because she tried to distance herself from that. And she tried to say, like, I had, like, nothing to do with this, but. But now, obviously we're reading through the text messages.

[Heather McDonald]

They were both calling each other Khaleesi or whatever.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

How do they have this much time on their head? I know.

[Heather McDonald]

And then it was like, I'm gonna have you read this. You know, act like you read the script and then come in as like a power move, like you just popping by for a muffin while Justin's there to intimidate you. But even if you don't read the script that I just rewrote, just act like you did and like, that you co sign on it. So that whole lame scene of them on the rooftop, which to me made no sense, when he's like, oh, I'm a brain surgeon. Whenever I'm a neuro. Neurologist. And she's like, whoa, really thought you were like a tech bro. And I'm like, what? And she's wearing, like, overalls with, like, $2,000 sparkly Louis Vuitton heels, like, in the hospitals. And like, all of that stuff was just so crazy.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Like, well, she was out of control. And there's. There's communication between Justin Baldonian, Jamie Heath, where they're like, there's not. There's literally nothing we can do. Like, nobody can control her. They go through the list of, like, all of the people who are like, it's impossible to control her. And, yeah, it's her cut ended up.

[Heather McDonald]

Right, the cut of the movie in.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Her cut failed against his cut of the movie when they showed it to audiences.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And she's. There's correspondence. Correspondence in there where she's like, basically, like, I don't care. Like, Colleen Hoover likes it better and like, Taylor Swift likes it better. And like, my. My cut is better. And then they bullied. They bullied him into releasing that.

[Heather McDonald]

And what was interesting in Justin's response to, like, the final cut or trying to get his cut to make it or whatever, he's like, she's cut out. The abuse. Like, there isn't the same amount of abuse that was supposed to be, like, featured because it was about a domestic, violent situation. When I saw the movie, which was after it was out in the theaters, available on Netflix before the drama, with all of this, I watched it and I was like, I don't mean to be, like, insensitive, but, like, it seemed like that one thing was a mistake, like, with the hot pan. And I was like, okay. Like, it was. I was kind of like, what is this about? The one thing I did think, as a viewer is I did think they had good sexual chemistry.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

He's hot. I think that that's part of the issue. I really do think that she was extremely offended that he wasn't, like, throwing himself all over her.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And if you. My. My TikTok blew up. When I talked about. It was like, a TMZ article about how she was very offended that he asked the stunt coordinator how he should lift her.

[Heather McDonald]

So lift her on that kitchen counter for the makeout.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes. Because he had a bad back and, like, whatever. And she was so offended by that. I think that some of it has to do with that. I think she has a very big ego. I think she's been, like, the hot girl for a long time. I think that she came into this thinking that she was going to take over the entire thing, and it just kind of, like, snowball from that.

[Heather McDonald]

In real life, she's, like, 40 and a mother of four, and she looks great. She's gorgeous. But she chose to want this project, and she's playing a much. I mean, I know they made her a little older in the. In the movie, but in the book, the girl was supposed to be, like, 21.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah. I don't know. It was great casting. But then she tried to. I mean, to your point, she's trying to take over as a director, and it's like, you don't really have. Obviously, when you, like, watch the movie, there's. There's issues with the continuity and the story and how it's presented. And I believe that is because Blake took over.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. And then it's like, there's all these, like, moments where it's like she's like. Like these long, like, looks in her hair, and she's like, okay. And then in that thing he wrote, this is supposed to be a movie about a domestic violent relationship, not a sizzle reel for how beautiful Blake is. Like, it was a lot of that. And I know with women, like, I wonder if. If this was the opposite. And this was all men players. There were no women involved in this at all. It was two guys, and one was the star, and one was the director, and the other one was best friends with, you know, Harry Styles. And if it was all men in this, you know, would people be as passionate about nailing everybody to the cross? Mostly the women. I mean, just think about it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Like, I mean, I think the. The dynamics between the women are. Are what kind of propelled this.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Colleen Hoover is a fan girl of Blake Lively.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Like the writer.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah. Justin Baldon found Colleen Hoover, and. And he wanted to, you know, make a movie about this book. By the way, the book is very corny, and the movie is corny. And so all of this hoopla over this movie that's, like, really kind of a glamorized lifetime.

[Heather McDonald]

Dried black flowers.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, that she was steampunk florist. It was very offensive. That's why my friend was like, you would hate this. You have to read it and thank God to her, because I wouldn't have the context. And, like, so it was kind of like the perfect storm when this all came out, because I had actually read the book, and then I'm a florist in Boston. I was like, telling the guys at the flower mart about this because I'm like, my tick. Like, do you know about tick tock? I'm like, it's blowing up. And it's because of this, like, movie with Blake Lively where she's a florist. And by the way, like, we all laugh because I'm like, if anybody dressed the way that Blake Lively dresses in that movie and came into the flower mart, we would just relentlessly make fun of this person. So it's like, even in that sense, it's very unrealistic. But in the book, they were putting, like, screws in the flowers, and it was. Yeah, it was corny from the jump.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And she's like, hey girl. Hey. I feel like something's off between us. Like, I just kind of want to make sure. I know I dumped a lot on you and I don't know that I've been as good of a friend as I could be. And it's been about me for a while. And it was kind of good. Cause Blake wrote back and she's. I mean, Taylor wrote back and was like, no, it's not that. It's just that, like you sent out this email that looked like it was like a corporate email and it was all me, like, wee, wee, wee and my team. And I just want to hear like from my friend who's like edgy and fun and like, I just don't. So I think at that time, Taylor was at that point keeping her distance because of this new stuff because she's like Look, I've been in the world when, like, this blows up, and I'm giving you advice to, like, I know it's hard on you, but at the same time, she was. Taylor was relaying to Blake, like, I am feeling, I guess, somewhat used or you're not being totally authentic in this friendship.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes. Well, also, the length of these text messages are so crazy. Like, I. I keep thinking they're emails, but they're, like, really just extremely long text messages. I think Blake loves hearing herself talk, Ryan loves hearing himself talk, and then so does Taylor. So it's like, there's so much drama there between these people that are, like, these megastars. It's like, I don't know how you have this much time to be, like, in the weeds over Justin Baldoni.

[Heather McDonald]

And then a big part was where Taylor goes, I can't believe that Justin is dumb enough to allow my song to be in the movie or in the trailer, because I'm your dragon or whatever. I'm your top ally. So already he is now. The scales have shifted.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah. Relinquishing his power.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And I was like, what a weird thing to say. Like, why would. Like, you were. Yeah, you were on the mean girl side. You were the. There's a rejuvener George. And then there's, like, the other one that's, like, just doing the dirty work. Like, I felt like Taylor was the one to the side that was like, oh, my God, this. Yeah, use my thing. And how I'm amazing. And then. And then Blake, like, writes to Colin Hoover, like, I don't know what the fuck this guy's problem is. I brought in all these stars. I brought in the music. I am running a. Basically a whole marketing campaign for free because I'm so famous and all this, and, like, why he should be kissing my feet and writing, like, apology letters and.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, why wouldn't he want Taylor's music to be in the trailer?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, why wouldn't he?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

He's the one that found the story. He. Wayfair, is the one that's financing it. I mean, he's invested in its success, which is part of the reason that he chose Blake Lively as the star, the face of the. Of the movie. So it's. She seems confused as to, like, how all of this works, which is interesting because you've been in the game for so long. But I don't think she's ever been in a position where anybody gave her this much power and anybody gave her this much leeway, and then she just. She Ran away with it. I think, like I said, I think she, her and Colleen Hoover and there's text between the two of them. Think they thought they were going to like take it and make, make it their own. Even though he had rights to the sequel. Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And then what was the Ben Affleck letter that you sent me? Can you explain that?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So she wrote to. I like you wrote to Anna Wintour too. She said that Ryan Reynolds wrote to Matt Damon and she writes to Ben Affleck and it's all of her. She thinks she's very charming. Like she thinks she's a comedian.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh God, I was saying that forever. And so does he.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

He for sure.

[Heather McDonald]

Whoever he decided to emulate his comedic Persona after. I don't know, I did see him on the Chevy Chase thing and he said like he kind of copied Chevy Chase. Like he clearly just copied like a, A, a cadence in a sitcom and then stuck with that for the rest of his life. And then he thinks he's so funny. And then of course she thinks she's hilarious. Why? Why they always like, are on talk shows talking about how they want to like murder their kids.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Oh, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, drugs so they can go to bed or they're. Oh, the youngest one is a, is a monster as an. I think. All right. Yeah, they're like, yeah, very low hanging fruit. Dumb jokes. Okay, continue.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

She writes. So she writes this like way too long email to Ben Affleck and she's basically like, you have no idea, like what I've dealt with on this set. Like, you know, she's nailing herself to the cross or whatever. And then she's like, I want you to like, if you have time, if you have an hour and 58 minutes to like watch my cut of the movie. Like, I would love that. If your kids are around, if Jennifer is around, she says Jennifer. It's unclear if she's talking about Lopez or Jennifer Gardner, but I think she's implying Gardner.

[Heather McDonald]

And then I do too because in that there was a, something crossed out.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I think she was saying, we've been watching you go through all this with. I think it was probably JLo.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Cross that out. And then, or you know, I know you're friendly with Jennifer Gardner, the mother of your kids.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So she wanted her to watch the movie too. Which is interesting because they, there have been rumors for a very long time that they, that they had something going on in the town. In the town.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh my God.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

That was her hate. Yes. Well, that's what's so funny about it.

[Heather McDonald]

She played. What did you think of that Boston accent?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Oh, it was. I mean, it was ridiculous. I don't think Blake Lively's ever been known as like, you know, a good actress, so. She played her part in that, though.

[Heather McDonald]

I did like her in this. It was a flavor, though.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I liked. I liked the movie the Town.

[Heather McDonald]

I love the Town.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I mean, she's usually cast in movies that are, like, match her caliber, which this movie did. But she just went. She just went out again.

[Heather McDonald]

She's just like, wait, I'm just trying to, like, do it. It's like, you know, what you doing? Like, she's so trashy, but she's like a blonde model, but she's supposed to be trashy. And he's like, come on, girl. Like, be a better mother.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah, exactly. You.

[Heather McDonald]

You. And then he's on talk shows being like, well, Blake's not from Boston, so after we're done shooting, I'll just drive her around Boston at 2am in my car.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I'm sure he was.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, well, yeah, yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

But now she wants J. Jennifer to watch her movie, her cut of the movie. And so then she. She wanted. She wanted their opinion.

[Heather McDonald]

Jennifer, during this time do some, like, secret troll post? No, I remember what it was. It was Reese Witherspoon did some type of post.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And the. The troll detectives figured out that it was like, fuck you, Blake, because you probably slept with Ben while you were filming a film and she was, you know, pregnant with the second kid or whatever.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes. And now Blake is asking. It's crazy. I mean, the. The whole email is insane to reach out to all of these other random people. Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Because then she could go and use again more ammunition to say, hey, all my friends. Yeah, Ben and Jen Garner. They love it. They think it's great.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I love that Ben is haunted by, like, the most insane women.

[Heather McDonald]

So they did two versions. So they both got in an Edding Bay did two versions of the movie. The same focus group watched both. They voted for the Justin one.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

But then she was such a pain in the ass that Sony was like, it. Just use that one.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It sounds like, okay, I want them to release if they were smart. I feel like if they released Justin's version, all of these people that have been following this entire thing would probably go out to see the movie to support him. Although then then I guess by proxy, you're supporting Blake, which they do.

[Heather McDonald]

They want to do good that Kelsey Travis, Kelsey's team isn't going to be entering the Super Bowl. And that they could just like hang low during this time. That's probably the blessing. That's probably where you're like, life's rejection is God's protection.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I mean, this is.

[Heather McDonald]

Travis and I are just need to go to like Aruba or something and just not be at any super bowl games. And then he's like, you, I want to be at a Super bowl game. And she's like, no. Because then people wonder why I'm not with you and I need this shit to die down. And it's not going to die down by Super Bowl.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Because it's going to actually be played out in a court.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, speaking of, that's probably why she, she cut Blake from the sidelines. I mean, obviously people started to notice there was a rift because she was having Blake come and Blake would, you know, be performing in the box or whatever. And now, yeah, she doesn't have to deal with any of that. I'm sure she is happy to lay low. This. It's. She's sort of a proven liar at this point, which is probably her worst nightmare because she's kind of like Machiavellian. Like, she's.

[Heather McDonald]

And then there's some song called Canceled where she refers to a tiny violin. And then in a text she's like, oh, he got out his tiny violin. And I'm like, also not clever. Not original. Tiny violin was like something we did in like high school. Like, it's not like a clever, like, funny thing.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

They viciously hate him. It's so. I know, it's really weird. It's like, I don't know, like, what. What did he do? Really? There's not, there's no smoking guns still after all of this. And actually the text. I told you, like, the text messages between him and Jamie Heath are like, they're sad because he's just kind of like, I don't know, like what to do. And he could see what was happening. Like, he could see that he was being set up. Yeah, she refused us. She refused a body double. It had to be her. She's still going on about this, this birth scene where she's saying that she was like exposed. And then there's. There's pictures of her, the longer version.

[Heather McDonald]

Where she not only had a, A bodysuit on, like with a fake stomach, but then that also included covering her genitalia.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right, of course.

[Heather McDonald]

So you were wearing like a one piece bathing suit with a fake stomach. And yeah, your legs are spread apart because you're giving birth, but it's not like there was any kind of exposure down there.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Of course not. And then she's saying like his friend was the actor that played the doctor. Like the insinuation that he was, you know, creating this, this toxic set where he was coming up with all these different plans to like expose to be.

[Heather McDonald]

Able to smell or spray tan.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know. Like, I don't, I'm so, I don't buy it. And then obviously all the evidence is now proven.

[Heather McDonald]

So they're suing for $661 million or something.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And they, they, they won't let him countersue either. They dismiss the countersuit, which is interesting.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. So then I guess I, I guess what will happen is if she loses, then he could file a lawsuit and say, I need whatever 400 million for what the hell you put me through.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It'll go on forever.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, it is a lot. There's a lot of players, there's a lot of emails, a lot of texts, so. But the gist is Taylor and Blake were mean girls that hated. This boy is very high schooly and some people just never change. And it seems like there's a lot of evidence in Justin's favor.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah, he was too hot for his own good. Really?

[Heather McDonald]

When a hot guy doesn't like the woman that wants to be liked, I don't know. Okay, now let's talk about this whole Brooklyn Beckham's situation. So Brooklyn Beckham is the oldest son of famed soccer star David and his wife Posh Spice Victoria, fashion designer. And everyone thinks they are the cutest family in the world because they are.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

I think there's three boys and then Harper's the girl.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And now they're all in their 20s or late teens and Brooklyn gets married pretty young to this beautiful girl, Nicola Peltz, whose dad happens to be a billionaire.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

But he's like a self made billionaire, sort of. Like he had like a family company, but he took it to like million. He bought Snapple. It's all food stuff. But he's a legit billionaire. And in that she wanted to be an actress, but all of the projects she shows just really didn't pop off.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I heard she got Razzie nominations maybe. Yeah, impressive.

[Heather McDonald]

But I mean, you know, she wasn't necessarily a Nepo in the business, but had a lot of connections to. Yes, but she's also extremely attractive.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

But. Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know if she's not a good actress or she just kept choosing the wrong. Because I did see something where it's like she could have Done this thing. She left a show to go be in this movie and the movie bombed and she should have stayed on the show and whatever. So they get married and they've been estranged from the parents. They didn't go to David Beckham's 50th birthday. They said they were there. And then the dad, they wanted to have a private dinner with them. And the dad was like, no, just come to the big party. And then they feeling so nobody knew what was up. Back and forth. Finally, Brooklyn over the weekend, the sun writes this long typed out post, like three of them, and puts it out on the Internet. And it's basically like we have felt used by my family wanting to parade us as the perfect family. You know, they've hurt my wife, who's the most important thing many times. She was so excited to have Victoria Beckham do her wedding gown at the last minute that was pulled out from under her.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And.

[Heather McDonald]

And then at our wedding, Marc Anthony, who I guess was the singer, came out and it was supposed to be Brooklyn and Nicola's first dance, which is always the first dance of the night when the wedding party comes in. And instead Marc Anthony said, brooklyn, come dance with your mom. And whatever this dance was. Brooklyn. Nicola in the thing said it was very inappropriate and very embarrassing and humiliating and he's never been able to get over it since. And everybody is like, where is that footage? And only they have that footage. And they said they'll never release it. Brooklyn and Nicola, Yes. So I'm guessing then they must have taken everyone's phones, which a lot of people do at celebrity weddings.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

But no one has brought it. But the jokes have been very funny. Imagining what it would be like of her having her mother son dance.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes. The memes have been everywhere. I think that's the worst part of, of the exposure is that he, he specifically talk that and. Because now everybody wants to see like release the tapes. I mean, I want to see the tapes too. But yeah, it was, it was a vicious takedown. You don't often see that with celebrities that are at that level. And especially Victoria, who I agree. Like, I think that they, they're pretty strict about their image, but that's to be expected when, when you're at that level. So yeah, to be exposed like that by Brooklyn and Nicola is pretty. It's pretty bad. And I don't know. I don't know that there's going back from this either.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, it's really sad. I mean, as a mother who has kids that are now young adults and I would, you know, I've, I've said like if my sons when they get married, you know, to a woman, I want to be so respectful. So I would never want to do this something, this should be a lesson to everybody because once you get to a certain level with your son's wife.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

You're not going to come back from that.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, they say this about in laws. When your son gets married to a woman, the son is going to spend most of his time with her family.

[Heather McDonald]

I know.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So it's easy. Yeah. And I think also when you have a, like a strong maternal figure, you often gravitate toward that for your spouse. And, and so when you have two women that are, that want to be the queen bee, you butt heads a lot. And so you do have to be kind of careful about that relationship because this, it happens all the time in real life. We're just seeing it play out with like a mega celebrities right now. But it's that dynamic happens all the time.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, I, I feel like all these words, but also these elaborate dance routines like, oh my God, I mean, I can't believe what bridesmaids have to be put through. Like now you have to go to A dance hall. And like practice.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It's so cringey.

[Heather McDonald]

It's so cringey. And then I saw like a mother and son, long, awkward. And then I'm like, oh, my God. And then it does go viral. And then they can't, you know, because it's like, you can't believe it. But with this, I just feel like since we did not see it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It'S open to interpretation.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Nobody, nobody else is saying, hey, I was at the wedding, right. I was the cater waiter. And she literally put him in a chair, did a str. You know, put on a strap on. I mean, I don't know what you.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Want to say, like, but even so, like, that's a memory that should like remain in the past. Even if that happened and it was cringy, I don't think that people are like still bringing it up. So to then expose it like this.

[Heather McDonald]

I think, yeah, I think it was, you know, her.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

You think it was Nicola, don't you?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, I think he's absolutely pussy whipped. I think she has. It's that type of thing where also he's not a soccer star. He tried to be a chef. He tried to be a photographer so bad. Her family is beyond billions, right? Yes. The Beckhams are rich and famous, but they still have to sell some dresses. They still have to do some, you know, Paco Rabanne ads. They have to go and do a very exposing Netflix stock to stay relevant. I mean, I'm sure if they had billions, they'd probably be like, no, let's not expose the fact that dad had an affair.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, can we not do that? Like, but we have to, because we. So I kind of think that he's gotten real comfortable. And maybe her billionaire family thinks like that sort of Kardashian ish, kind of desperate. And then she's in his ear, like all this stuff, you know, just like my opinion.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

She is. She's the one that's getting in the New York Post and like exposing some of this stuff in the New York Post. And that's why I'm like, sort of.

[Heather McDonald]

Confused because she's putting what originally put it out there because he's the one who wrote it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I. Right, but if you. Or she perused the New York Post.

[Heather McDonald]

Posted on his thing. Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

The stories that have been. First of all, everybody knew that there was a rift, right? Because they're posting pictures from like David Beckham's 50th birthday party. They're not there. They're posting pictures on family Vacations they're obviously absent from. So there was rumblings that there was clearly, like there was something going on. There's been many stories in the New York Post recently in the last, you know, four or five months that are talking about it. And the way that it's written, it seems like, in my opinion, that it's coming from Nicola in Brooklyn's camp.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I just want to say to all these women that are like awful about their mother in laws, like, Karma's a bitch.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

100%. 100% karma's.

[Heather McDonald]

When you have a little boy and you're mean to your mother in law.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

You'Re going to be the in law.

[Heather McDonald]

Your little boy doesn't talk to you and you're 60 and you don't get to see your grandkids. Maybe you should have been nicer to your mother in law.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, you're going to be the in law at some point if you have it. If you have a son also.

[Heather McDonald]

If you have a son. I'm like, so I. My mother in law, I've always said it just was just wonderful.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

And like, you know, I just like when she was going to stay with me for a week and my mom lived down, you know, within a mile and she's like, I don't want to step on any toes. And I'm like, no, my mom's, like, thrilled. My mom's not going to spend the night. Like, it's like having a nurse.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Like, Right.

[Heather McDonald]

She was the best. But I also, But I. That's why I feel like, you know, I don't ever want to be like that. But I also, like, stop being such a. Like all these young girls being such a. About the. Yeah, it's your son. Your son does want to talk to his mom sometimes. He does enjoy her company. Like, stop being such a about it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

You knew the family you were marrying into.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Like you weren't going to come into that family and then be the queen bee. It's very Meghan Markle coded, honestly. It's like you knew the family that you were marrying into. There's certain parameters that come with mayor. There are certain concessions that you have to make. Right. And so you can't enter into a family like that and then think that you're going to change the dynamics of the family and the way that things go. I would love to have Victoria Beckham as my mother in law. Are you kidding me? It's like you have to fall in line. But I think that that that was never going to happen. With her. And so, yeah, it adds up. I'm sure she. I doubt that Victoria was, like, completely innocent, all this. I'm sure it is a difficult family, but I did want to point out that the story that that was the first dance has sort of been debunked. Like, they. They danced to some Elvis. An Elvis song.

[Heather McDonald]

I think it's okay. So even though that was debunked, but even if it wasn't, it sounds like it was Marc Anthony. You know, just being in the moment and being like, this would be so great, you know, and, like, poor Mark Anthony, like, he just was happy to get the fight, you know, the $200,000 gig or whatever, while he tries to sell jeans at Kohl's.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And. And now it's like, oh, my God, I really fucked up by doing that. I mean, I've done that. I've been at a wedding.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I mean, stuff happens at weddings.

[Heather McDonald]

I'd like to give a speech.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know.

[Heather McDonald]

And it's. I still sometimes wake up in the middle of the night and remember it, and I'm like, why was I doing that? I wasn't part of the wedding. I wasn't like. But I was feeling the shark 100. I wanted to just cry and say how much I loved this family, and I will never do that again. And.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Happens at weddings. That's why it's crazy to come out, like, all this time later, there were. He could have said. He could have got to the point differently, too, because I feel like he really gave, like, a lot of details, and it was, like, scathing, and it was really like.

[Heather McDonald]

I almost feel like she. This. What I think. I think she's very smart. I think she knew by him putting out there. Because he didn't have to. No, like, just. He could have just been silent. It could have gone another year, and then they could have been like, hey, you know, who didn't spend Christmas together? We would have forgotten about it 100%. But we put it out in this long thing and explaining all these instances, and you do it publicly, and you say, we don't want to be on the red carpet in your perfect public thing. And it's really sad, too, because he has, you know, three siblings, and now, you know. But, hey, that happens. That's been happening in families forever, where one person just has left the family, and, oh, we haven't talked to that sibling in 20 years. I understand why it can happen. I just. I just think it's really sad. And I am.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I don't think you should Air. Like, I. I think about this all the time on Tick Tock. People airing out their families and even just people that they know in life. Like, no, just.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, like, when they're like, I just.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Got a Willy nilly.

[Heather McDonald]

I just got out of the carpool line and some of the moms here told me that I couldn't bring my favorite muffins. And I'm like, do you think these moms now are going to want to be your friend when they're passing this TikTok to everybody in their neighborhood? Like. Like, stop. Like, what do you expect?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Also, I. Why does he expect that that family image would not be curated? Like, your. Your mother is Victoria Beckham, your dad is David Beckham. And then I see people that are like, oh, well, they used to pay the paparazzi, like, back in the day, like in the early 2000s. Like, yeah, that's how it used to be. I don't find them to. To sound, to seem thirsty or fake at all. I think that they just. They had.

[Heather McDonald]

Listen, this is their business.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

She had to do it.

[Heather McDonald]

She had a reality show on E a long time ago where she went and, like, met Perez Hilton at a.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Diner when he went to the dmv.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, when he had a block. Yeah, yeah. Like, she had. They had to do this stuff, you know, and she wanted to do it because she is a performer and. But then she got, you know, into, like, raising these, and they all have good jawlines and they're all great looking and. But somebody brought this up. This was. Wait, hold on. I went like. I don't know.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

The tattoo.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Like, he has Brooklyn.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

The placement's incredible.

[Heather McDonald]

Brooklyn tattoo as a tramp stamp. David, because that was his first baby.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know those were the days. But, yeah, it's unfortunate, the whole thing, because I also feel like they. They're more powerful together. Like, Brooklyn and Nicola, like, they're more powerful with a connection to the. To the Beckham family. So now that they've kind of like, annexed themselves from that, it's like no one was really checking on you guys to begin with. Like, you're. What's interesting to you is your connection to your family. And so I don't know where it goes.

[Heather McDonald]

I just hear you. I do, I do. I just had a prediction just came to me.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah, what is it?

[Heather McDonald]

Meghan Markle's gonna reach out to Nicola because she's going to say, oh, my God, I have been in your place.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Also, we need some billionaire friends, and I need a new friend with a Jet.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Speaking of, you know, her and Selena Gomez, like, there's like a mystery falling out between them. Who? Nicola in Brooklyn. Very good friends with Selena Gomez. They were not invited to Selena Gomez or they didn't attend.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah. So people have been talking about that, like, what happened with that friendship? Because they were kind of all over each other for a minute.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, Justin Anderson, who is a famous hairstylist, I believe he's also Christian Cavallari's best friend.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah, I trust him.

[Heather McDonald]

And I trust him.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I trust him.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. He said that he did his own TikTok saying that Nicola was a bad apple, totally supports the Beckham family, said that she was one of the most entitled, awful people he's ever worked with.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

So you know the hairstylists, they can tell on you.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Listen there. There's been a rumor about her.

[Heather McDonald]

If someone does my hair, makeup, and I hate it, I say I love it. I say I love it. It's never looked better. And here's a big tip. And then I go into the bathroom and I fix my brows. It's a scary place to be.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know you don't want to piss those people off. And he. I don't think that he would. I think what happened was he had mentioned that before.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So I don't think that he would have come out now and just like blindly said it, but it already out there.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So I mean, I. He doesn't, he doesn't speak out a lot about stuff like that. So I trust, I trust that what he's saying is true. And there's also, like, when, when I first became aware of her, and this is many, many years ago, it was like a blind item that said she allegedly, like, as a child. Yeah. Had like pushed her nanny down the stairs. That's like an og. And was that story.

[Heather McDonald]

They mean like a nanny that was a caretaker? Do they mean like a grandma?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

No, like one of her. No, like a caretaker. Her. Like one of her nannies. Yeah. I don't think she. Luckily, I don't think it was the grandma. Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And I. And now people can't find that article.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Heather McDonald]

Interesting.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Because people are saying. Because you know how celebrities will. Like Taylor Swift, for instance, when they were talking about her Jet use, she went to a Jets game. So that when you Google Taylor Swift Jet, the Jets game comes.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh my God, that's so interesting.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

They said they did that. Nicola did that with her nanny. That's why. Like, because she calls her grandmother nanny. Whatever. And so they were like, oh, Nanny, whatever sat with them at the sweetheart table at the wedding. So now that. Now that buries that story. But that story's. That story has been around for so long. That was before she dated Anwar. Because now they're saying she did. Anwar Hadid. Oh, there was the same. They said Yolanda reached out to Victoria. That's like Daily Mail. So I don't know if it's true.

[Heather McDonald]

But they were like, Yolanda and Victoria could just go have a cute lunch somewhere.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I wouldn't go head to head with Yolanda.

[Heather McDonald]

I wouldn't either.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

She's scary. So. Yeah, she, they. They said that when she was dating Anwar.

[Heather McDonald]

I made you the lemon chicken.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

Loves the lemon chicken.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know. Yeah, scary. But they said that when she dated Anwar that, that he wasn't really speaking with his family. So this might be a pattern. I know we need to hear from Yolanda. I'm sure she. Sure she would love to talk about it. Well, but anyways, yeah, it's a crazy story.

[Heather McDonald]

You better stay away from my cute boys. Nicola.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, there was one other thing here. Let's see. Okay, so there you go with that. I hope it works out. Now, another exciting thing happened in just the other day. So Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, but now they call it the Fab Five. What is the name of the show now?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I think it's still Queer Eye. They've always been the Fab Five, but it's Queer I.

[Heather McDonald]

Not for the Straight. So originally Queer for the Straight Guy was on Bravo. And I remember when they made their first Oprah appearance, everyone loved the show. And it was where five gay guys would take over, like, you know, a straight guy apartment that has never, like, you know, been introduced to like a toenail clipper. And it was just like, really funny and sweet. And then they came back and did a revamped version. None of the original men were invited. And that's been on 10 seasons on Netflix. And so this is the final season and they're launching this season on Netflix. And they go to Jenna Hager.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Mm.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait. Jenner Bush Hager.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Jenna Bush Hager.

[Heather McDonald]

Jenna Bush Hager. Hello. It's the final. It's Jenna Bush Hager and her new partner and co host. And they are all there to talk about it. And.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It'S so funny.

[Heather McDonald]

And Jenna's like, you know, well, we're so excited to have all of you guys here, but clearly one of you are missing. And what's his. How do you say, his name?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Karamo?

[Heather McDonald]

And Karamo's assistant did send us this video. And then Karamo, who is the black bald guy? Of course they're all gay. What is his talent?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I think he's the culture guy.

[Heather McDonald]

What does that mean?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Whatever that means to buy a bunch.

[Heather McDonald]

Of Tom Ford books or something. Whatever. Put it on your coffee table. Okay. Anyway, so he comes on and he's like, hi, I'm really sorry I couldn't be there, but I need to do what I do best, and that is protect my mental health. And I cannot be in a place that is not safe for me mentally. But I can't believe we've done so many great shows. I love the crew. I love the Netflix execs. I love our producer. I love the craft lady. Shout out to Amelia. All of you have made such an incredible show, and I'm honored to be a part of it. And again, I'm really sorry that I'm not sitting on that couch, but I'd like to not be in a mental state of distress. Not gonna say anymore.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So awkward.

[Heather McDonald]

Bye. Bye. And I'm like. So then they're all sitting there and they're all holding hands like they're Ariana and Cynthia.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It reminds me of the wicked Crestfall.

[Heather McDonald]

It's so terrifying for us to be here.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And it's like they were about to get, like, bad, bad news from a doctor or something like that. Like, they're bracing for it.

[Heather McDonald]

And so they're all holding hands. And, you know.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So what's wrong with Gigi's Friends? By Gigi's friend, by the way. Like, he looks like he's been wind blown. The one on the left.

[Heather McDonald]

What do you mean, Gigi?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Oh, he's friends with Gigi Hadid.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, okay.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah. So I don't know, the whole.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, the whole scene is they're holding hands. And I think there was another show they were on where they were holding hands.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Wait, there was another show?

[Heather McDonald]

No, they went on a. With Gayle King. They were on Gayle King shows. And that one there was a little split. So two of them had to hold hands and the other two had to hold hands. And in one of them, Jonathan, who's wearing a Victoria Beckham long dress. Off the shoulder. Off the shoulder. Cause why not? And he's like, I think it's great that he's not here. He should protect his mental health. And we're here to say it's wonderful. And in this we. In this world where we are just, you know, we are fighting the criticism and the Lack of acceptance in the world today. And it could not be a more important time to be out there and helping people. And we would rather not reflect on anybody any negativity. I'm like, oh, my God. So obviously you guys were bitches.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

To poor little. This is what they. I think Karamo wants us to get out.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

That they were all mean to him. They.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

He's bullied.

[Heather McDonald]

They didn't invite him to the lunch table. He opened up his phone and they went to a dinner without him. He saw the article on Toxic Moms and saw that Ashley Tisdale was getting so much action and might get a limited series based on her cut article that he's like, oh, fuck you, Toxic Moms. We're gonna take one more thing from you. We are now going to be the Toxic.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah, guys.

[Heather McDonald]

And we were going to make our own Real Housewife drama. And you know, I'm not showing up for the reunion. And essentially this is the reunion and I'm not going to do it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know it was. Well. And he also sent. His assistant sent an email with a video. He had been bullied. Yeah, they sent an email first and then he also included the clip for them to play while these four sat here.

[Heather McDonald]

I have to say, it's pretty genius clout chasing PR move.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It is.

[Heather McDonald]

Because it's the end of the thing. So he's not risking not being asked back. He never has to work with these fuckers again. Maybe they were really awful. And now people that I didn't even. I still can't pronounce his name. I forgot about him. And now we're talking about it. And if they had all gone on the show together and been like, oh, it's so great we helped this one person in a wheelchair and another person that didn't had never heard of curtains, then we would have just been like, oh, whatever. That was another stupid Today show thing. And they hit five shows and they said the same thing in every single one. Nobody would have covered it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

No. I think that they've had drama from the very beginning, though. Different. Different members of the cast have fought with each other. Like Karamo had a. He had some problem with Tan. Who is the. The one that's holding hands with the white hair. Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Anyways, he had problems with him before. There was Bonnie Burke left. He left last season. So this guy on the right is brand new. He was very.

[Heather McDonald]

Bobby Burke was the cook or the interior designer.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I believe he was the interior. Gigi Hadid's friend is the cook. I Do know that I don't know his name.

[Heather McDonald]

I just remember one of the. Before Bobby Burke left and he came on Juicy Scoop, people were like, bobby Burke's doing all the work. Like to redo an entire apartment. And that's a lot harder than cutting someone's hair, right? And, you know, trimming their beard or even making a simple meal or even getting someone some new clothes, you know, like, those are all one day deals.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Interior designing an entire apartment is huge.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I agree.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, I think that was part of it too, is that he felt like he was, you know, I think they all hate.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I really do think they all hate each other. Because the other thing is that, like, when I was like perusing different articles, there's. There's so many articles about different groups being in fights with. They're in fight with this guy. I, I wish I knew Gigi Hadid's friend, but I really only know him by that he didn't invite them to, like, his bachelor party. And the funny thing is, is, like, not only is all of this happening, but then somebody's clearly leaking it to the press. So I think that they're all, they're all fighting behind the scenes. And then this was, yeah, this was like the crescendo, but still the producers.

[Heather McDonald]

Are thrilled because people had never watched it. Are like, oh, I want to see these go head to head.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Oh, for sure.

[Heather McDonald]

They're like, you know, being like. And, And I wonder if they're even going back and like recutting episodes to keep like snarky moments in. Because now they're like, oh, now it's all out. Our dirty laundry is out. Just like the Beckhams. Might as well show it, get people to watch it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, and it's funny because every single show that they go on, they. They begin it by being like, karamo's not here. Like that. That's a whole. Yeah, that's the story to begin with. And then.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I know, but I thought. Wait, I thought he did.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

No, I'm telling. I'm talking about like, Jenna, they, they open to any, Any interview.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Any press interview that they're doing right.

[Heather McDonald]

Now where they go to someone's house.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Oh, no. Any press interview that they've done that I've seen. Like, they open. It's very awkward. It's like they're opening with this. He's been bullied. But they don't, they also don't ask them, like, what is he talking about? They kind of just like leave it open. And I will say that they're all very well press trained because, I mean, here's the thing.

[Heather McDonald]

It's like another thing, you know, everyone can always say for my mental health. Yeah, mental health. I cannot do the show today for my mental health. I cannot go to this dinner because I'd rather lay in my bed and it's raining and I committed and it's not good for my mental health to go in my bathroom and start blowing out my hair. It's like, not like. Like it's a little, you know, I mean, when people. It gives me anxiety. I'm like, I didn't even know what anxiety was.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Everything until like three years ago.

[Heather McDonald]

Anxiety means you're nervous. I know you're stressed about something because you're doing a big project at work, because you have an audition, because you have a big game today.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

You have to have your emotions fluctuate at some point. You can't be just completely like Prozac happy every minute of every day. Right. And that's not what a human is.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know. I completely agree. I also think, like, is there an age limit on being bullied? Like, you're a grown man and like, look at who you're being bullied by. This guy that's in a full ball gown with banana curls and a beard and he has to hold, you know, tan's hand through this. It's like, this is kind of crazy. Like, I don't. I don't know that you can.

[Heather McDonald]

How terrible was it? Yeah, you were pretty shoved in a locker. I put your head in a pissy toilet.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

Like, no one was like, what? When he got there, someone put like a big in a box and I know sent it to him and he was like, ready to unbox this Louis Vuitton purse. What? It was a big. And the four of them are like, he thought he was getting a Louis Vuitton backpack. Like, what the was it?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know. Well, in of all the shows, it's like, you're being bullied on this show. I don't know. It's like, I just. Sorry. It's like, just because you need more.

[Heather McDonald]

Details, you could not be more accepted and more loved by everybody. No. We have to make sure that you guys know that we're not. Well, I'm not. They were mean. They were.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Hire him also, like, you got to show up, fulfill the commitment. This is like the 10th season, I guess, to your point. Like, this is much. This is more interesting and it's going to draw up more drama and press, but it's like, at the end of the day, just show up and do your job. You know you're gonna do a pre taped. Although I think it's hilarious, right? I think on a petty level, like, it's really funny, especially to watch them have to, like, sit there, like, look at this picture. It's so. It is really funny to me, but it's, like, very unprofessional. And I think that you said, like, you know, Lisa Vanderpump is really the only person that never showed up.

[Heather McDonald]

She did not go to the reunion because she didn't want to answer puppy gate stuff. I believe she gave up something like $250,000. I've heard that's how much you get paid. It's a big payday. But in the end, she was smart because she still had her other shows. Now she has multiple other restaurants outside of California. And she probably was smart enough to realize that if I have to be put in that situation where I don't have control over the editing, I don't want them bringing up something that proves maybe what I've said in the past isn't totally true or whatever. I'm sticking with my narrative that I didn't call Red online and say that Dorit brought the dog to the death shelter. I never said that. Like, I'm not gonna. I don't sell stories to Red Online. So I think she weighed it out, and she was right. It wasn't worth 250.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

What's 250 to her? Absolutely nothing. And so maybe this guy happened to have a rainy day, and he happened to watch that season of Housewives, and he was like, I'm gonna pull Lisa Vanderpump and I'm gonna get even more successful by not going and holding hands with these people.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right. Well, and having the. It is very funny to have your assistant send an email to. To go along with it where you. Yes, you were so bullied. But it's a lot of drama. But I think that, like I said, I think there's been a lot of drama on the show, and it kind of makes sense because it is. I think anytime you have an ensemble cast and you have, like, a lot of big personalities, but I will say the women on Bravo, they show up. Yeah, they show up.

[Heather McDonald]

But just like Housewives, they get jealous over who got the. Who got the deal. Oh, you know, on Salt Lake City, Angie got a. A commercial for food. And then, you know about franchises that you sell French fries, I sell franchise, franchise, whatever. And does that take away from the Fact that Lisa Barlow, also, I was the first one that was drinking. You know, fast food, drinks. It's like, there's enough for everybody. But there is that outside. And with this, I'm sure brand deals are huge for all.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Oh, yes.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, so there was probably a crossover brand deal that, you know, someone squeeze where there's some email where they're like, you know, you don't need tan n Camaro. You could just have tan for ha. And then that person accidentally, like, sent that reply and it got to you. Never will. We won't know.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

We won't know. He did unfollow. He unfollowed all of them except for.

[Heather McDonald]

The new guy, the one that says, I'm the new gal.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

He was very weepy. He. He turned on the waterworks. It did remind me of the Wicked press tour, which I'm still trying to recover from, because it's like, leather's not a third one. No, I. It's like, what happened during the filming of this movie? And it's a. It's similar. It's like, what's going on with you guys? Why are you all so weepy? You are. You're all touching each other. Touching and scary touching and weird and.

[Heather McDonald]

Emotional and like, you know, and I'm.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Like, my God, shouldn't it be fun? That's the other thing. I guess movie.

[Heather McDonald]

I guess movie and TV sets aren't fun. We just covered three that were horrible.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

But I know the play.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, God, no wonder Hollywood's dying. Everyone's like, it's a torture jam.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know. I am happy that all of this stuff is. This is, like, reminiscent of how it used to be. There used to be, like, a lot of drama all the time, and I feel like things kind of of quieted down. There's not as much, but luckily there's still people that are gonna act bad and then, you know, not be able to contain it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And it spills over eventually. So I do feel like that we're off to a good start this year.

[Heather McDonald]

And so many years ago. 2019. Because I looked it up. I did an impression of Jonathan on the show.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

And I found it. Hopefully, when you're watching this, I'll have put it together and put it out by now. But I said it to Jonathan. I thought he would love it. At the time, we were at the same fun. We were at the same podcast network. I was like, can we do a switcheroo? Kind of wanted nothing to do with it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I've not heard great things about him. Well, you know, so. And I. Yeah, I don't know. It's. He seems not. Not very fun loving, obviously.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, well.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

But yeah, it's like the. The show used to be great. I mean, the original. The original Queer Eye was like a fun loving.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, it was really great with Carson. That was. Carson was the lead. Yeah. And I always wonder, like, how were they ever bummed about the fact that.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

You know, that they seem more like friends than. Than this crew?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, well, because they're from a different generation, quite honestly, and they, like, did it and they did their own things after. But still, just like the new cast of Sir. It kind of sucks for the old cast of sir to, like, be just. It's like the classic Hollywood. You've been replaced. You aged out.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah, we put it on a new gay. I know. But, yeah, it's. It's very much. It does really remind me of the Wicked press tour and that it has, like, an icky feeling to it. So as much as it is funny this whole entire thing, because I did get, like. I got a kick out of that.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It doesn't, like, it doesn't make me want to watch the show.

[Heather McDonald]

Really.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, let's see. Wait, I want to get to.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Meghan Markle with love. It will not return for a third season. This is the show where she did the cooking at the house down the street and the, you know, they did a long thing. They do the Sun Selling Sunset too, where they film the whole season and then they cut it in half. So when it first came out and everyone was bagging on it, she wasn't lying. And neither was Netflix when they were like, oh, my God, a second season is coming out in a couple months. But it was all done at one time. They never got the crew back together and did it, and now they're saying we're not bringing it back. And whenever this happens with Netflix shows that I know some people that do, they always try to act like it was mutual or like, well, I really. I'm so overwhelmed with my as ever jam.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah. The jam.

[Heather McDonald]

That I just couldn't also make the Trader Joe's pretzels into selfie bags or whatever it's called.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Rebag the pretzels.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. I didn't have time to do that and be a mom and be a podcast host and tell exciting things. Like, I tell Lilibet, you can't reach that light switch yet. Yet. I like that.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And she's quite profound.

[Heather McDonald]

God, that was like. That was the craziest interview and there was literally 75 clips from it. And so over the weekend, during the. Oh, what were you doing in 2016?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Trend or whatever. Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Little bet, who's four, she just happened to go to a park. She happened to go to a park. And her parents just happened to be dancing far away from where she was sitting. And she was like, wait, let me stop my iPad. Cause mom and dad are dancing and falling in love again. Hold on. I'm gonna film it, and I'm not gonna say anything. And then when my mom gets home and starts to make us snap peas, she's gonna look at her phone and go, little Bet, did you film H and I dancing at the public park without my knowledge?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Her hidden talent.

[Heather McDonald]

And then Lilibet will go, okay, well, I get in trouble. No, you won't. But I am gonna post it, and I'm gonna say that you did it. And then everyone will go, these two, I love them. They're so authentic. I get why she's giving up her Netflix show. It's because she wants to focus on the fact that her daughter is the next Obama daughter.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

Who is now a filmmaker.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

She always wanted a videographer. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

She's a filmmaker at four. And we're just kind of catch these moments.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

But, yeah, I mean, I'm personally, I'm very upset that the show is getting canceled. I loved watching that show.

[Heather McDonald]

You did incredible recaps of it where you're like, here's another friend that she's never met.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

She never met any of these people. Okay. Like, that was, like, always the first time the te. Oh, I can't remember the tennis girl's name. Like, that girl. She was the last guest. She hated being there. But, yeah, I. I actually loved that show. I thought it was great.

[Heather McDonald]

Favorite episode to make a fun of.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

The episode with Tan was pretty funny.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

He came and he met her, and he was. They. They always would make I. The Chrissy Teigen one was pretty good. I mean, they made hideous throwaway craft projects every single time. And it's like these people are throwing this straight in the dumpster as soon as they leave. It always felt like it was, like, pinned. Like, she just found this thing on pinterest from, like, 10 years ago. And I always. I always imagine, like, her presenting these ideas to the producer.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Crew and stuff. Because you. You know, that these people must be like, oh, my.

[Heather McDonald]

You know what?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, the kids that I love to do is we are popsicle freaks, and we like to save the popsicle sticks. I don't know if anyone's ever heard this, but what you can do is you just do little simple glue and you can then wrap yarn around it and you can make a dream catcher out of popsicle sticks and yarn.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Listen, don't give her any ideas. I don't know. She. Yeah, it was at Tan's episode. They made like. They made her really. They like hand painted, like aprons. I like that she like decorated the Christmas tree like by herself. I mean, she never really wanted her family involved.

[Heather McDonald]

Didn't think one time do like a tie dye T shirt. I want to say they did. Or maybe I imagine they might have.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Stuff like that where who was like.

[Heather McDonald]

Tie dye T shirt.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And who has time to do this? And they were always in the fake craft barn. She had like a separate fake craft barn and she had like, she had a chalkboard that she used to write like funny sayings on. I mean, she's. She's very corny. She's a legend in her own mind for sure. But I did really actually enjoy the show, mostly because people would like. They really liked the reviews of. Was just you were really funny the way you did.

[Heather McDonald]

But I do want to say right now, he is. He's testifying in England about the big trial that's been going on for a long time where he feels that their phones were tapped and all these awful things were written in the press about them. They're suing Daily Mail, I believe, like the Sunday paper or some other paper that's under their umbrella for all the awful things they said. And he said, you know, you destroyed Megan's life.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It is all about Megan, though. It doesn't have anything to do with Diana. That's.

[Heather McDonald]

I do want to show you this one photo that they did of him in the court. Wait, just focus on this photo right here. I mean, not a turkey post. They. They did a sketch, you know, they do a sketch of him.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And I mean, the sketch is accurate, though, I don't think. I mean, people.

[Heather McDonald]

Men lose. Men lose their hair.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know he should go to Turkey. Megan needs to help him a little bit. But she wants all this.

[Heather McDonald]

Go to Turkey to get the hair transplant.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Why not get a hair transplant? I don't know. They also say they're broke with that. That to me is kind of interesting. And I did look up, like, what he got. And it's hard to say if it's true or not, like what Diana left him. And it was like 8 to 10 million dollars. And then they got that Netflix deal. They didn't get the full payout from the Netflix deal.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And then obviously this didn't pan out. So it is. They are kind of like, in flux right now because it's like, what is the next step besides going to Turkey and getting the hair transplant? I would do that first.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I would do, too.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I would. I would do it. But, like.

[Heather McDonald]

And who cares? You know what? Do it. Get it for free.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I go and.

[Heather McDonald]

Or maybe you don't have to go to Turkey. Just go to someone in Santa Barbara and start, like, they're going to start.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Getting a glow up.

[Heather McDonald]

They're going to start getting for free there. She's going to start just doing brand deals like everybody else.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, she. That's why she went to that Balenciaga show. I think that she invited herself to. It was very shady that it came out after. And they were like, she invited herself, but they were saying that that is like, she's trying to now make a pivot. And she was. She was on Harper's Bazaar, I believe. So I think that. That they are trying to make some sort of pivot because all of this other stuff for them obviously isn't working. No, Like, I think that the thing with Meghan Markle is that she's acting like we know anything about her or we, like, knew her before she started dating Harry. It's like, that's when we were introduced to you.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So you keep repeating the same stuff where it's like, yeah, you had the Tig, which was like that blog, you know, a million years ago, and you were in suits, and then you're acting like you are some sort of royalty because you married into it. But it's. There's no, like, meat to the bone there where, where there's anything.

[Heather McDonald]

I even feel like people don't even really care to, like, hate her anymore. Like, I feel like I'm like, all right, all your stuff didn't work out, which is sort of satisfying because I don't think you were talented enough to have ever deserved even a fraction of these deals to create TV and do podcasts and things like that. You, when you got the opportunity, you were lazy with it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

They are lazy.

[Heather McDonald]

And then you got. Now it's over with. So now you're going to have to, you know, get ready with me and tell stories about, you know, the time the queen, you know, made some bad remark about you while you contour your face. I know I have to have a Risa Tisa moment. You're going to have to. I mean, I don't know. You're going to have to like, do all the crap. I don't know what. I still, I still. I know she's going to end up in an ensemble reality show by 2028. I know.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Amazing. I feel like. Here's the other thing is people try to paint this picture like. Like she got so much hate from the jump. I remember when they first got together, like, I was excited.

[Heather McDonald]

I loved it.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

No, I know. I think that we were dress.

[Heather McDonald]

I loved. I thought she was great. I thought it was so cool that we had an American.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I wanted to know more about her. I don't know this girl. How she bag Harry. That was when Harry what? He was good looking. Anytime he was an eligible bachelor.

[Heather McDonald]

And it was like, like, oh, how fun this will be.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And it's similar to the Nicola thing. Like, I think that you could. You're going into a difficult situation. Even. Even with the press in the uk. I think that there was a real opportunity to like, win the people over because we were halfway there.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And I know that they're nasty in the UK with the press and stuff like that, but I think, you know, go into it, own it. Like, they would be in a completely different place had they approached that better and kind of like stuck it out and made it work for them. And now they are at like a really. They're kind of at a weird point where they've kind of squeezed the lemon dry. I mean, she's still talking about. She was talking about like the queen forcing her to wear like the nude pantyhose. And that was like. It's like, let it. Let it lie. I mean. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. You and Kimora can. Is that understand. I keep saying it wrong.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Who come. What is his name now? I'm not gonna. Karamo.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It's similar. It's like you guys are kind of crybabies.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And like. Yeah. And retelling your story of like how you were victimized, like. Oh, just shut up.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know. It's not. It's not interest. Everybody is trying to like out victim each other.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

And it's like, let's spin this around. Like, you had all of these opportunities. I mean, they had that huge Spotify deal and then the guy came out and called them grifters, which was crazy.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, they weren't even. Like, she wasn't even really interviewing the people. Like someone, like someone two episodes or something.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. It was like, we're ending the season. See you next year. Six episodes. And like somebody else said when they Would. When they did the interview, the producer was like, hi, how are you? And that the producer asked them all the questions and then took the best moments, edited it with her, then asking. And it was just a zoom even. Yeah.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

It's so weird.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, my God, like, you're. You're. You have a $20 million podcast deal, and you can't, like, actually even meet the person in person and fly them out and put them up in a. Like, what?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

But I think that that's half the problem, is that she put herself, like, on this pedestal. Like, I like the get ready with me. It would be tough for her to come back down now because she's presented herself as, like, you know, too good for all of this stuff. Like, I think she wouldn't, like, curse on the. On the podcast. And it's like, the archetypes. I think she wouldn't, like. She was, like, nervous to say the word or something like that. And it's like, you. You've now placed yourself on a level that's, like, kind of unattainable, and you can't even really keep up with that.

[Heather McDonald]

I know. And it's interviews about, you know, the Spanx creator.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Oh, my God. And then that.

[Heather McDonald]

The Spanx creator. She's great. But we've had every interview with her. Like, it doesn't make for an interesting podcast anymore.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I think the girl boss thing is, like, no one cares about the girl bossing. And, like, no, it's about.

[Heather McDonald]

It's about manifest, mama. That's what I'm going to do. I'm just going to manifest something else. Well, we still have. We could have talked for a million years, so we'll figure out another time.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

I know. I think we manifested all of this happening.

[Heather McDonald]

Such great things. Tell everybody where they can follow you.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Okay, so I'm on TikTok, DJ Hungry Human, and I'm also on YouTube.

[Heather McDonald]

And why did you come up with the name DJ Hungry Human?

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So. So it's so funny because when I first started posting, I believe it was Billy. Billy Ray Cyrus was the first video that ever went viral. And that's when he was with that girl who just popped up. She just released.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, I just. I don't know if I have that in here.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

But she saw that, right?

[Heather McDonald]

She just. He got married to this young girl, Billy Ray Cyrus, Miley's dad, and got married to this young blonde girl. And she is posting audio arguments with him where, you know, he's coming off, you know, quite insensitive and awful. And she's Doing a whole thing, narc abuse recovery and letting it show that, you know, and then she'll be like, you know, you know that trend where it's like, you know, in 2000, someone's gonna. An older musician's gonna ask you out. It's very important that you say no.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Well, I think that she's mad. He's with Elizabeth Hurley. But anyways.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, that's right.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

He's with Elizabeth Hurley.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, forgot.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

So they used to post these videos where they were like in a day. They were very strange videos. And so I, I posted like one video and it blew up. It got like a million followers, a million views, and I was like so nervous about it. And my. My regular name was like on my Tik Tok. So I always. If I was ever a dj, my DJ name would be DJ Hungry Human. Okay. So then I switched it to that and then it just kind of like worked. And then. And then obviously, like, as I started posting more about the Blake stuff, like, that blew up and then that, that just became the name. But it is funny because when people get like really mad at me about like different random things, I'm like, you're mad at somebody? Like, my name is like DJ Hungry Human. Like, it's really not. It's like not that serious. And if I ever did need to segue it into like, you know, a new career, maybe I can just be a dj.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, anyway, yeah, follow DJ Hungry Human on Tick Tock. And I love to. I love that you came.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

Yeah. Thank you so much for having me.

[Heather McDonald]

So funny and clever and Everybody go to heathermcdonald.net and we'll put up where you can get your ticket to the show. May 9th in the Netflix. Netflix is a joke comedy festival live juicy scoop. May 9th in LA. Thank you. Bye. Ever wished making a TV ad felt as fast as listening to a podcast.

[Addie Flynn (DJ Hungry Human)]

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[Heather McDonald]

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