Heather McDonald (2:51)

Yes.

Chris Franjola (2:52)

We're just too busy adults.

Heather McDonald (2:54)

We're just too busy adults. But no, we text each other when there's something that's significant, something that we want to secretly shit on.

Chris Franjola (3:02)

Right, exactly. Can we. When we text each other or I.

Heather McDonald (3:07)

Send you a DM reel or whatever of, like, look at this asshole.

Chris Franjola (3:11)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (3:12)

And that's really what an adult professional relationship in Hollywood is about, is. Can you send snarky reels to each other? And, you know. And you don't have to even say anything.

Chris Franjola (3:24)

Right. And. And also not. I think it's just every. Not just Hollywood. Adult relationships, friendships, means you see each other three times a year. I mean, that's basically. Otherwise, you just see your family, whether you like them or not. That's what you do. And you got to do. You just got to do the appointed rounds. You know, meet the daughter, take her to school, pick her up, take her back. Pick her up, take her back, take her to.

Heather McDonald (3:47)

Of course, Mike, I'm.

Chris Franjola (3:49)

Now you're out of that. Yeah, I know.

Heather McDonald (3:51)

My oldest is now. My youngest is now 18.

Chris Franjola (3:55)

I know. Just last week, right?

Heather McDonald (3:58)

I fucking killed it. I can't believe I've accomplished what I've accomplished. Good job that I have three kids that are. Mackenzie came to. We had had a little birthday party at Lucille's. He and his three friends sat at one table, and a couple of the parents that, you know, we've known forever. And the boys didn't have their phones out. It was four men having a conversation. Talking and listen. I didn't think I'd be here. There are many times I was like, I fucking failed. I wasn't there when they were little. Why didn't I do this? Why didn't I choose this school? Why didn't I put them in this program? Why didn't I hold them back? Whatever the questions. So far, so good. Really? Really working out. MacKenzie has a new job that she's starting on Friday.

Chris Franjola (4:45)

Really?

Heather McDonald (4:46)

Yes. She's gonna be a PA on a very happening show, which I'll tell you about later. I don't want the trolls to come and try to kidnap her, but Drake's doing great. Junior in college, he had two friends that came to visit that were complete, total delights. One's a year older, already has a job lined up in automotive engineering and is going to Has a job and is like. I'm like, where are you going to live? He's like, I've been saving up my money for my summer jobs. I'm going to put a down payment on a house. I'm like, oh my God. How did I. Very, very happy that.

Chris Franjola (5:19)

Well, congratulations. And I'm gonna admit that I was wrong. Cause when they were growing up, I was concerned about the bacon and milk intake and it turns out. And the chocolate chip pancake intake. It turns out they've. Look at them now.

Heather McDonald (5:33)

I mean, well, you know what? I was always concerned about the fact being a horrible mother that they didn't eat the vegetables and all that shit. And I'm like, how are they still never having colds? Nothing's wrong with them. And they're just like meat and cheese. I used to dream that they'd eat broccoli and. And then I. But I tell myself, I go, one day they're gonna be shamed into like eating other stuff by their peers or girlfriend or whatever. And like one day Brandon was just like, you know, no, I wanna eat healthier. And he like started jogging.

Chris Franjola (6:04)

Whoa.

Heather McDonald (6:05)

And like, you know, like trying different things and starting to cook and can totally cook for himself. And you know, I mean I encourage it but I also like. It also kinda came upon themselves and I'm like, God, good, good. It is pretty great. And so we're gonna go look at Oregon, Oregon State, Utah. He got into all those schools.

Chris Franjola (6:27)

Really?

Heather McDonald (6:27)

And we'll see.

Chris Franjola (6:29)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (6:29)

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Chris Franjola (9:39)

Well, I have a four year old, so it's a whole different world. I just.

Heather McDonald (9:41)

Well, there won't be a world.

Chris Franjola (9:43)

I know exactly. Well, that's what my wife's always telling me about colleges. I'm like, colleges, who gives me some AI robot doing everything for us? She doesn't, you know, like that's a whole different world. And we don't even worry about that.

Heather McDonald (9:54)

Who knows?

Chris Franjola (9:54)

Yeah, we're worried about like the next school and we have to go to like interviews for the next year.

Heather McDonald (9:59)

Oh, because you're entering kindergarten next.

Chris Franjola (10:02)

There's seven kindergartens. Kindergarten one, kindergarten two. I'm like, what, what is she in now? I have no idea what grade she's in. I feel like this is kindergarten. Cause they're.

Heather McDonald (10:10)

No, I think she's in pre K.

Chris Franjola (10:11)

But what's the difference? They're finger painting. It's not like they're doing anything, you know, of substance. It's dumb. They're painting rocks and shit.

Heather McDonald (10:19)

Well, I just want to say I remember when Brandon was in preschool and we had this big sit down meeting because they thought there was something wrong with him because he would climb on the outside of the plaything like he was doing it a different way.

Chris Franjola (10:33)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (10:33)

And then when he would fall, he was, he didn't. He wasn't overly sad about it, you know, and then he'd get up and don't go do something else. And they're like, maybe has some like, sensory issue or something. And so I go, oh, my God. So they give us this piece of paper saying all their concerns about him. And I go home and I have my. That day, my parents were still living next door, so they came to babysit and Peter and I went to a dinner and we came back and my dad was like, wow, I read that report about Brandon and that is incredible. And I go, you mean the one where he might have, like, sensory issues if something's wrong with him? He's like, no, in his, like World War II marine mind, that showed that he was like a little badass. That was thinking outside of the box. And also when he got hurt, didn't really give a shit.

Chris Franjola (11:20)

Came up. Yeah, right. All right.

Heather McDonald (11:22)

So anyway, it turned out he was fine. So it's like all these young moms, like, my God, there's just so many things to worry about. And like, just like, have faith.

Chris Franjola (11:31)

Yeah, we're into a.

Heather McDonald (11:32)

You're a good mom. And hopefully it'll all fall into place. Maybe not in the timeline of your neighbor.

Chris Franjola (11:38)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (11:39)

You know, like the way I'm a dad, though. Yes.

Chris Franjola (11:42)

Yeah. I'm a good, you know, putting it on dad. Yeah. You said you just have faith you'd.

Heather McDonald (11:48)

Be a good mom. Oh, good parent, good parent. You're right. Exactly. That you're a good parent. You're there and like there's gonna be phases and there's gonna be ups and downs, but it's going to.

Chris Franjola (11:58)

I feel like I'm there more than most dads. And I'm not gonna speak for everybody, but I feel like I want a little More credit than I'm getting in the household. Cause I'm there a lot. I am there.

Heather McDonald (12:10)

Believe me. I'm doing things in the household. You're getting it from the outside people. Because at least in, you know, it was Peter that was like having to pick them up from school and stuff. And then everyone just thought he was the greatest thing that ever lived. And then he headed up this golf tournament that made more money than the three day carnival, right? Cause he, like, is a dude and worked out the profit was like, this is a more profitable thing than having everybody try to, you know.

Chris Franjola (12:36)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (12:37)

Throwing 25 cents off of like a little game. And so then, you know, they just thought he was the greatest thing. And I'm like, well, I'm still doing everything too, though. Like, I'm still like, yeah, you gotta give some credit. It all works out. Anyway, well come together for the kids. If we're doing. We're getting into a few things and how the world is ending in a minute. A Real Housewives of Salt Lake. We finished the season. We finished the reunion. I have to talk about it.

Chris Franjola (13:02)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (13:02)

There was this girl, Monica, that I've talked lots about, right? She turned out she was an Internet troll. Oh, I heard about an Internet troll.

Chris Franjola (13:12)

She had a name or something, right?

Heather McDonald (13:13)

Reality Von Teese.

Chris Franjola (13:14)

Yeah, reality.

Heather McDonald (13:15)

Who went after the girls, really? She went after Jen Shaw, who she tried to be Jen Shaw's assistant because she was. Wanted to be on the show. And she was like, jen Shaw's on the show. I want to be on the show.

Chris Franjola (13:27)

She's in prison now.

Heather McDonald (13:28)

Yeah. And, and, but, but this is before she was in prison. And she was like, Kim Kardashian made it because she was, you know, Paris, Paris's organizer, assistant, basically, to do her closet. I'm gonna weasel my way in that way. Well, in it, she claims, I realized what a horrific person she was and I started to record her. And I also suggested that she get cameras in her home. But when she hooked it up, the cameras came to Monica's phone. So then Monica sets up this fake account, this troll account, Anonymous, called Real Avantes. And in it, she starts releasing video of Jen Shaw, now convicted criminal of stealing from old people for 20 years, screaming at her designer and her staff and being a horrific person. So I discover it and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, you know, and I start corresponding with person. I'm like, who are you? I thought she was. I thought it was the male designer. She claims a few of them were on it. She gets. She Gets on the show. But also during the time, she would also post all this awful stuff about the other cast members under the guise of, look at the awful thing that Jen Shaw said about Heather Gay. But then she would show it, like 15 times that she called Heather Gay Shrek or something awful, right? So, you know, a lot of them didn't really like this account. Then the account goes dark as far as she doesn't post anymore because she gets cast, she acts like she's friends with everybody and all this other stuff. And then the final scene is when Heather Gay realizes what she has done. And, you know, it's pretty dramatic moment in reality tv, and it's pretty. So then they have the reunion, and instead of her being like, you guys, I wanted to be on the show. I did this shady fucking thing, But I did really like you guys, and I feel really bad about it. She just doubled down. Monica's just doubling down. And she's like, so what? Like, I. You know, so what? You're awful, too. And, like, the production knew that I had a troll account. And Andy's like, no, they did not. We would have never hired you if we did. So then she kind of realized maybe that wasn't the lie to tell. So yesterday they announced, no, she's not coming back.

Chris Franjola (15:45)

Okay?

Heather McDonald (15:46)

Which I think is the right thing, because they're. They all are. Like, we hate her. We're never gonna film with her. Yeah, she's the worst. Like, how can we trust her when she was. And she put out lies and all this stuff about all these other people. Then Heather Gay finally admits that it was Jen Shaw, the convicted criminal, who gave her this black eye. Last season, they all got drunk and hung out. One morning, she woke up with a black eye. And she and Jen Shaw acted like they didn't know how she got the black guy. And people were like, did Jen Shaw get mad at you and punch you? And she was like, no, no, no, no. I don't know what happened. Then she goes on a book tour, and she kind of jokes about what could have happened, but she never says it. And then yesterday they finally go, so Jen Shaw did get a black eye? She goes, yes. And they show, like, this footage where you can't hear them, but it sounds like it could be them working out the scheme that Jen Shaw gave the black eye, and that was it. And I'm like, but you never explained why she gave you the black eye.

Chris Franjola (16:39)

Did they fight her?

Heather McDonald (16:40)

Like, did they get fight? Like, I was like, I needed to hear something. Like, we Got really wasted and I said something, and she jokingly hit me. I didn't think it was a big deal. And I woke up, and the next day I had a black eye. But I didn't want to say that she did it because I didn't want people to think that she was more violent than she was. Like, I still feel like we don't have the answer.

Chris Franjola (16:58)

Right.

Heather McDonald (16:59)

And I think she's being careful because Jen Shaw is a badass who's in prison. And I do think that is scary because they could meet somebody in prison. I mean, that's what happened after her. Yeah. They could send somebody after her or she could be sued or whatever.

Chris Franjola (17:15)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (17:16)

So that there's the whole thing. I think it is amazing because they. You know, the they. And then. Oh, and then Heather Gay says to Andy, which I thought was interesting. She goes, andy, you know that every housewife in every franchise says the only bad thing about this job is the horrible social media trolls and fans that go after you and are anonymous and all this stuff. And. And then now we have one in our cast. Like, we cannot. It's like having a terrorist, like, hanging out at your home. Like, it's just. So I agreed with all of that, and I thought she did a good job. And then I also thought that Lisa Barlow was like, andy, I feel like you don't even care what we've been through. And so she's not coming back. She'll probably go on some other Housewives. Not housewives. Some other reality show, like villains or traitors or something.

Chris Franjola (18:06)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (18:07)

And that's it. So I had to feel that. I know you don't care, but I had to.

Chris Franjola (18:11)

It's not that I don't care. It's not my.

Heather McDonald (18:13)

I know, but I just want to say it was kind of juicy because it wasn't so much.

Chris Franjola (18:16)

You might as well speak in Chinese that last eight minutes.

Heather McDonald (18:19)

I know, but it's okay, because otherwise, what are they going to do?

Chris Franjola (18:21)

No, no, no, you're right.

Heather McDonald (18:22)

So she got the boot. And here's the black guy.

Chris Franjola (18:25)

Oh, that's better with the black guy.

Heather McDonald (18:26)

Okay, so now let's talk about the other Oscar nominations. Oscar nominations. The only thing you really have to know is that the director of Barbie was not nominated. And Margot Robbie. Margot Robbie, the star of Barbie, was not nominated. However, America Fiera was nominated for best Supporting. And then also Ryan Gosling was nominated for the Man. Was He Supporting. Supporting. And so basically the Oscars, he's like, what could be Barbie ii? Like, it's basically the storyline of like we put this all together, we made the most money and we still didn't get. The two women didn't get nominated and the guy did. Right. Which it's all.

Chris Franjola (19:17)

Okay, here's my opinion.

Heather McDonald (19:18)

Please give your opinion.

Chris Franjola (19:20)

First of all, the Oscars at this point, let's face doesn't have the pomp and circumstance or whatever it once did. It feels like it's lost a step over the past few years for whatever reason. I'm not exactly sure.

Heather McDonald (19:33)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (19:34)

And so for that reason, we need to get as many eyes on it as possible. That's all the Oscars is for. It's for ratings. So when they have voting, whatever the Academy votes and they get these votes and they count them all up and there's not just change it. This is not the presidency. You know, just like Greta Gerwig didn't get enough nominations.

Heather McDonald (19:57)

Wasn't it the Oscars where they used to be like. And now we have.

Chris Franjola (20:00)

They didn't bring out the accountants.

Heather McDonald (20:01)

The accountants. They'd bring out like their old fashioned suitcases.

Chris Franjola (20:05)

Two guys come out, they got a chain to their arm or something. Price Waterhouse accountants. And it was always like nobody cares about the votes. People want to see Margot Robbie in a dress on abc. That's what we want. So if she doesn't have enough votes, when you look at it, you're dumb.

Heather McDonald (20:22)

Well, she still could win an Oscar for best Picture because she is a producer.

Chris Franjola (20:26)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (20:27)

But still not as fun as Best Actress. Yeah, not as fun.

Chris Franjola (20:30)

You just change it. Cause there's been a few every year. There's a big snub like this. This seems to be a real big one. But there's always one. And it's just like, well, that's the person we wanna see. And you're all looking for ratings on this. So just change it to Margot Robbie at the bottom.

Heather McDonald (20:47)

I don't know how many people actually vote. Are we talking thousands?

Chris Franjola (20:52)

I'm not exactly sure how the candidate.

Heather McDonald (20:54)

But I mean I really do think that if. If these people voted really watched all the movies, which I certainly did not.

Chris Franjola (21:01)

Right.

Heather McDonald (21:02)

And they had to pick. Is it 10 for each category now or.

Chris Franjola (21:06)

No, it's only 10 best pictures.

Heather McDonald (21:07)

So it's like six.

Chris Franjola (21:08)

Could be up to 10.

Heather McDonald (21:09)

Okay. But it's like six for the normal categories, five. So that's not a lot. So if you saw everything and then you really thought about like whose performance really moved you and most likely probably still 80% of the voting people, maybe not 80, but a good majority might be older and might be men and. Or even older women might not feel like this Barbie movie was the greatest thing they ever saw. And so they're like, no, I'm gonna vote for the old swimmer. What's her name?

Chris Franjola (21:39)

Yeah. Nyad. Yeah. Annette Bening. Yeah.

Heather McDonald (21:42)

Annette Bening got nominated for being this. She's a lesbian swimmer, right?

Chris Franjola (21:47)

Yes.

Heather McDonald (21:48)

And so she swam and swam and swam and swam. And, like, good for her. Yeah, I'm sure she was amazing.

Chris Franjola (21:54)

Listen, it is.

Heather McDonald (21:55)

I can't bring myself to watch these movies.

Chris Franjola (21:57)

I'm like, which ones?

Heather McDonald (21:59)

I haven't watched any of them.

Chris Franjola (22:01)

What did you watch?

Heather McDonald (22:02)

I watched Mayday, of course. I watched May December, which was snubbed because that was about the Mary Kay Letourneau story, which is. There's only a few stories in life that I'm obsessed with.

Chris Franjola (22:11)

Right. So, yeah.

Heather McDonald (22:12)

Mary Kay Letourneau, Oppenheimer, Menendez brothers, Scott Peterson, which is getting a reboot and.

Chris Franjola (22:19)

Getting a reboot in real life.

Heather McDonald (22:21)

In real life because they have the Elliott projects and Betty Broderick. Those are the only stories that I will revisit over and over and over again. Not Oppenheimer.

Chris Franjola (22:31)

Yeah. All right.

Heather McDonald (22:33)

I want to watch the Oppenheimer.

Chris Franjola (22:35)

What about Maestro? The one about.

Heather McDonald (22:38)

I don't want to watch it. That seems like I can't bring myself to see it. I don't want to see the flowers in the wind.

Chris Franjola (22:44)

Flowers.

Heather McDonald (22:46)

And I know people are going to write in and be like, heather, you'll love it. Maybe I will. Maybe I'll watch it. Maybe I will bring myself to watch it. Maybe I'll really, like, put in my schedule. But every time I get in my bed or whatever and I have time to watch something and I whip out the. And I start to look at the overwhelming things, I go back to what I've been watching all week.

Chris Franjola (23:03)

I think everybody does. I think it just. Yeah. Your phone.

Heather McDonald (23:07)

My phone. I know. And then when I can finally put down my phone, My new obsession, which I talked about last week, is the return of 2010 Millionaire Matchmaker LA.

Chris Franjola (23:21)

Oh, it is like, oh, the old ones.

Heather McDonald (23:23)

Or. They've been so comforting. Patty Sanger looks like a completely different human.

Chris Franjola (23:27)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (23:28)

And she has these two punkers that are working for her trying to find millionaires. It's like the most produced fake thing. Everyone has a sky top on. No one has eyelashes. Everyone has thin lips.

Chris Franjola (23:39)

Wait a minute. So this is the old. The actual old ones.

Heather McDonald (23:41)

It's not a reboot of Netflix bought it. And I cannot stop. I Just. I can't. I. Like, there's something about that time of my life. It was like we were at Chelsea lately, and my kids were little, and I don't know. It's just, like, so bad. It's good.

Chris Franjola (23:57)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (23:57)

I can't. So. I mean, if I can turn that off and watch these Oscar nominees, I.

Chris Franjola (24:02)

Would think Kills of the Flower Moon might be better than that, but I don't know.

Heather McDonald (24:06)

I'm sure it is, but there's something about, like, finding it and putting it on. And then also, I think when I would. Back in the day, when we would get the screeners and we would have DVD players and stuff, it kind of felt special. Like, ooh, everybody else has to go to the movie theater.

Chris Franjola (24:23)

FBI warning on the front. Like, you were met. You were actually breaking the law.

Heather McDonald (24:27)

Right. And it was kind of like a flex.

Chris Franjola (24:30)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (24:30)

Where I was like, oh, saw that one. Saw that one. You know. Yeah. Because we didn't have to go to a movie theater. We could actually just watch it in our house. We got the DVD sent to us, and now everyone can watch it in their house. They can watch every single thing.

Chris Franjola (24:44)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (24:45)

And there's no coup about it. There's no flex.

Chris Franjola (24:49)

Did you see Air, the Nike movie?

Heather McDonald (24:51)

No.

Chris Franjola (24:52)

I think you'd like that. I think you'd like it. Check it out.

Heather McDonald (24:54)

Okay.

Chris Franjola (24:55)

Ben Affleck.

Heather McDonald (24:57)

I feel terrible, but I'm just being honest. I'm very authentic on the Juicy Scoop show, and I just didn't want to.

Chris Franjola (25:01)

I'm gonna give you two movies to watch, and I think you're gonna like both of them. Okay, I'll give you three. I'm gonna give you Air. I'm gonna give you a movie called Dumb Money. About the cause. They're interesting for several reasons.

Heather McDonald (25:13)

Okay, I heard about that one.

Chris Franjola (25:14)

Remember the whole thing about people buying the stock for a GameStop?

Heather McDonald (25:17)

Okay.

Chris Franjola (25:18)

It's about that interesting story and about the guy who invented Hot Cheetos. And this is real. It's very good.

Heather McDonald (25:25)

Is that a movie or a dog?

Chris Franjola (25:26)

A movie directed by Eva Longoria.

Heather McDonald (25:28)

All right.

Chris Franjola (25:29)

Yeah. And it's the guy who came up with the Hot Cheetos. And it's just. It's an interesting story. Okay. Three guys who came up with a weird idea. Nike.

Heather McDonald (25:37)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (25:38)

Dumb Money and Hot Cheetos. And they're all very good movies. All right, so there you go. That's my.

Heather McDonald (25:44)

I did watch Saltburn. That's not an Oscar nominee, in my opinion. No, it's.

Chris Franjola (25:48)

No, it didn't get a Nominee for anything. Because yeah. I mean, nobody. Nobody wants to see somebody in the dirt or whatever. Like, what? I. Somebody told me about it. I'm like, why do I need to watch that? And like, he was licking. Come out of his drain or something. I was like, what? No, this is what I've heard.

Heather McDonald (26:04)

It is. It is not. You do not need to watch.

Chris Franjola (26:07)

Okay, good.

Heather McDonald (26:08)

Because the rest of it isn't that juicy. Like, I kept. Like, I kept going, oh, my God, this is gonna be like one of those juicy rainy day movies. Like, I'm so excited to see it. It's gonna be like a talented Mr. Ripley. Like. And there wasn't enough of that juiciness. And then those three scenes that are so shocking, that are so, like, really gaggable, kind of just makes you not even appreciate the rest of it, where there were some funny lines and there were some cool moments.

Chris Franjola (26:34)

Right.

Heather McDonald (26:35)

But there just wasn't enough. You're like, what is this? And you're like, wait, is he gay? Is he straight? Are they rich? Are they satanic? Like, what the. What is. It was just like. I don't know. Wasn't good. I like the song Murder on the Dance Floor.

Chris Franjola (26:47)

Oh, is that from Saltburn?

Heather McDonald (26:48)

Yeah, it's in it. Oh, I've heard it's in that. That's fine.

Chris Franjola (26:51)

All right.

Heather McDonald (26:51)

Okay.

Chris Franjola (26:51)

Moving.

Heather McDonald (26:52)

And Jimmy Kimmel's the host.

Chris Franjola (26:53)

Jimmy Kimmel will be the host again. He gets the job done. Yeah, he.

Heather McDonald (26:56)

She's perfect after this. I mean, are we going to risk a person now?

Chris Franjola (27:00)

We.

Heather McDonald (27:00)

We talked a little bit before the show started. We haven't talked about it.

Chris Franjola (27:03)

Our friend Joe Coy.

Heather McDonald (27:04)

Yes.

Chris Franjola (27:04)

Yeah. And it seems like a old news now. It is a few weeks ago.

Heather McDonald (27:09)

Yeah, it is. It is old news. But I think in light of the Barbie thing, you know, that was a joke that everyone got really mad about it. He's like, there's, you know, whatever. Based on a 700 page book and then based on a doll with plastic boobies.

Chris Franjola (27:22)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (27:23)

And which also boobies is a word that Chelsea always used. So I feel like he picked it up in the last three years as like, ha, ha, boobies. And. And it was just such a dumb joke. And then for this to happen where, again, it's like, yeah, these men just think this is a, you know, a dumb movie about Barbie stuff. And guys just are like, if they don't like it, they don't want to go see it.

Chris Franjola (27:45)

Whether you liked Barbie or not, it doesn't. Barbie brought in a trillion dollars.

Heather McDonald (27:50)

Right.

Chris Franjola (27:51)

And this whole town is built on the fact that these movies need to make money.

Heather McDonald (27:55)

Right.

Chris Franjola (27:56)

So the fact that this movie brought people back into the theater, which is next to impossible these days.

Heather McDonald (28:02)

Yes.

Chris Franjola (28:02)

For that reason alone, they should have been nominated for everything because it's all. Everybody sitting in the seats that night. Watching the Oscars is dependent upon these movies making money.

Heather McDonald (28:14)

I really think the way the movie thing has to work in the Barbies is like, I talked about this before, but this past weekend was the weekend I went to go see white chicks that this thing four can film.

Chris Franjola (28:25)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (28:26)

And much like the fancy movie theaters where you can eat during it, they serve you during it. It was like a pop up, like, at a little, like, restaurant. The screen was great, sound was great, food was really yummy. Creative menu that had to deal with, like, what you're watching on screen.

Chris Franjola (28:40)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (28:40)

And you know, I brought Brannon and my. My sister and her kids and my friend Kathleen, and it made it an event. And I think that's what happened with Barbie. It's like, you need to make it some kind of event. Like, so either you're. Either it's a food thing or. Or it's a show that's like, let's all dress up like Barbie. Let's all. Then, you know, let's. What makes. It's like when I do a live show, you know, it's like, what's so great is that the Juicy scoopers get on a group text and go, okay, you guys, should we get six tickets? Let's all go together. It's like, about, like getting a group together somehow.

Chris Franjola (29:17)

I agree.

Heather McDonald (29:18)

And not every movie is like that. Not every movie can be like that.

Chris Franjola (29:22)

The one that did get the most nominations is Oppenheimer, I think got 12 nominations. And the only reason Oppenheimer was the success that it was is because of Barbie. For whatever reason. It was all tag, Barbie Heimer, Opp or whatever it was. That's why.

Heather McDonald (29:35)

And selling Sunset helped it.

Chris Franjola (29:37)

Selling Sunset?

Heather McDonald (29:38)

Yeah, the Oppenheimer tiny twins.

Chris Franjola (29:40)

Oh, is that their name? Oh, yeah, they have. That's their. Is that their.

Heather McDonald (29:44)

No, it's Oppenheim Group.

Chris Franjola (29:45)

Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

Heather McDonald (29:46)

Close enough.

Chris Franjola (29:47)

Yeah. Those guys help too.

Heather McDonald (29:48)

I think they help too. I think they help. I think they should be invited to the Oscars. They really, you know what? Like, oh, my God, if I was doing it, maybe not the Oscars, but maybe if I was in charge of like, the Golden Globes or whatever, I would have invited those little twins. Why? Just for fun? No, just for Fun. Just for fun. Yeah.

Chris Franjola (30:07)

Anyway, so that's my opinion on it. I mean, at this point, I think you almost have to correct it and say, all right, they're nominated. And then just give her the award for Best Director, or.

Heather McDonald (30:17)

All this talk will make people watch it.

Chris Franjola (30:19)

It's already made a trillion dollars. Like, everybody's seen it. It's funny. You can always tell.

Heather McDonald (30:22)

It's almost better that she wasn't nominated the director, Greta. Because then it's like, okay, motherfuckers, yeah, wait till you see my next one. For herself, but also for the world. It's almost better that she wasn't. That she is not gonna win for this. Because, you know, it's gonna make her next project that hopefully, like, she's gonna be that much more interesting.

Chris Franjola (30:43)

I even wonder if they care about. Cause Leonardo DiCaprio is also snubbed for Kills of the Flower Moon. And I wonder if he cares. Like, he's gonna be. He's Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, I wonder if his agent calls him and goes, bad news. And he's like, sorry, I don't have cell service on my yacht. What? There's models everywhere. They're blocking. I can't hear. He's like, I don't. So I don't have to go to the Oscars. I'm fine.

Heather McDonald (31:08)

I always love it because it's like, well, I was sleeping. I actually forgot that the nominee for coming and my agent or my PR person called me at 5am I thought someone died.

Chris Franjola (31:20)

I know. I was like, oh, and it's such bullshit too, because it's like, there's like nine award shows leading up to it. You know damn well.

Heather McDonald (31:26)

And you're like, oh, what? You did it. You were nominated. And then my team was at my doorstep with coffee and donuts and. Or when they announce it, and it's like the people in the press are like, woo. You just hear that?

Chris Franjola (31:37)

Like, yeah. Do you watch the award shows? Are you still, like, a fan?

Heather McDonald (31:44)

I skimmed through them this year. I could skim through. Cause, like, obviously I was interested in Jo Koy and Chelsea. So, like, I kind of got through it and looked for the highlights and then. But once I have one on, I, like, I don't really turn away. Like, if I. If I commit to turning it on, I do kind of watch it. I do like the fashions and all that kind of stuff.

Chris Franjola (32:04)

I like the Holdovers too. Paul Giamatti. That's a really good movie. You should watch that one. I'm trying to give you movies that are under two hours at the eco watch.

Heather McDonald (32:12)

No, I thought the holdovers might be a good thing for me to watch with Brandon because he goes to an all boy school.

Chris Franjola (32:16)

So I thought like, yeah, you might.

Heather McDonald (32:17)

You might like it.

Chris Franjola (32:18)

Get something out of it.

Heather McDonald (32:19)

Yeah, I made him watch Saltburn.

Chris Franjola (32:21)

Oh, no. Well, child abuse. Why'd you do that?

Heather McDonald (32:25)

Because I was like, this is gonna be a juicy movie. Everyone's talking about it. I didn't know what the scenes were. So the first scene was sucking up the cum from the bathtub. Yeah. Okay, well that's. So that's pretty gross for him. And then, then the next was, you know, going down on someone. That's that time of the month. Okay. And then the third was the grave.

Chris Franjola (32:47)

The grave, yeah.

Heather McDonald (32:48)

And then there was another thing that then he finally just walked out.

Chris Franjola (32:51)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (32:52)

And it was only like seven minutes left. And so then I was like, brandon, it all like concluded. Do you want me to like, tell you what hap, you know, you want to come back and watch the end? And he's like, no. And then he guessed the ending. Yeah. So I was like, oh, I guess it wasn't that juicy if you figure had figured it out before and like, you know, but he'll forgive me. Whatever.

Chris Franjola (33:10)

Okay, well, good.

Heather McDonald (33:12)

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Chris Franjola (37:25)

Right.

Heather McDonald (37:26)

You have to go in a room. He lays there, he gets hard. Somehow he turns on the poor.

Chris Franjola (37:30)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (37:31)

Porn. And then you and the other girls have to hop on with no condom. Several girls. You have to hop on with no condom and baby oil. And then a lot of people.

Chris Franjola (37:41)

Baby oil, like, for the.

Heather McDonald (37:43)

For the lube. And then she said, that's not a good idea. And it gave a lot of girls infections.

Chris Franjola (37:46)

Yeah, I thought that was.

Heather McDonald (37:47)

So that wasn't really fun.

Chris Franjola (37:49)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (37:49)

And then she was like, get me out of here. Then she goes and runs to Phil, Dr. Phil's son, Jordan.

Chris Franjola (37:54)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (37:55)

And they date for a while, but then she's like, no, this isn't working for me either. So she goes back, and now she's like, well, he's pretty misogynistic, you know? She's like, he was, you know, wasn't that nice?

Chris Franjola (38:08)

Hugh Hefner.

Heather McDonald (38:09)

Yeah. Are you surprised? And then. Wait, wait. There were some other, like, kind of interesting things about it. Wait, let me find. She. But, you know. You know, so then she's like, well, then I stayed with. You know, I stayed with him. And I just. I don't know what she was expecting it to be. I think when you marry someone that old, you're expecting that they won't. Wouldn't live as long as they did.

Chris Franjola (38:30)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (38:30)

You know, and that this sex would stop. And I guess it really didn't for a long time. She said, I was never in love with Hev, but I loved this old man in the ways that you're supposed to love your elders. She said, I ran straight to Jordan and hid from it all. Moving in with Jordan, however, it felt overwhelming and intense. Their dynamics started to sour pretty quickly since she went back. Then she said, I not only had Lyme disease, but I also had breastplant. Her breastplants were causing her illness. So then that wasn't fun. And she was. And then she also suggested that she might have been exposed to toxic and mold exposure, which totally makes sense because. Yeah, that old brown water bed or whatever it was. I mean, there was definitely toxic mold.

Chris Franjola (39:15)

In that house oak and, you know, a lot mahogany. Yeah.

Heather McDonald (39:18)

And, like, it seems like nobody ever, like, got a vacuum going in there.

Chris Franjola (39:22)

Remember that old lady who was like, his assistant just sitting in a closet all the time they'd pop in on, she'd be like, oh, I'm sorry. Hefner's gonna be late for lunch.

Heather McDonald (39:32)

There were unspoken rules. The number one rule of living in the mansion was you always had to adore Hugh. The second was a plastic surgery rule, which she claimed made the women in the house competitive. So who was gonna get the best implants? She got a nose job in liposuction. And then he was diagnosed with an aggressive eco e coli infection. Oh, but she did hold his hand until the end.

Chris Franjola (39:55)

Oh, that.

Heather McDonald (39:57)

But anyway, she said, overall, Crystal felt that Hef had never taken a moment in his entire life to figure out how to please someone else. So that was real shocking. Guess what? Doesn't go down on anybody, right? Sorry. I don't know. What did you expect the 91 year old to just, like, really know how to satisfy a woman? She's like, what? She's like.

Chris Franjola (40:18)

Salt burn lady.

Heather McDonald (40:19)

Yeah. She's like, oh, wow. I really would have thought, you know, being that he was such this, like, man of Playboy that he. No, he doesn't care about satisfying other women. I mean, I was like, please get.

Chris Franjola (40:31)

The baby oil, sweetheart. And no funny business. I'm just going in for a few minutes and then I'm coming out.

Heather McDonald (40:38)

I think Casablanca's on tonight.

Chris Franjola (40:41)

So that was my favorite joke. He used to do, like, just what a 22 year old girl wants to sit on an old dusty couch and watch Humphrey Bogart movies. No wonder she ran to Dr. Phil. Sange, like, get me at like. I mean, in a way. I know. I've heard this story a million times. Every Playboy playmate tells their story about it, whatever, right? And it's just like. Well, of course it's all very interesting and you could sympathize, but there's also a side of you. It's like. But you kind of knew what this was gonna be like, what'd you think it was gonna be? It's the Playboy Mansion and all that, you know, and then weird.

Heather McDonald (41:17)

Once she got married, I mean, she was probably like, how many years do I even have to wait, right, for this to end? You know, soon. He's really quite old, but you know what they say, A woman who marries for money, works harder is the hardest job that any woman could ever have. Yeah, because it is not gonna. It's a transactional marriage. It's never gonna be on the equal level. You're going to have to agree to everything. You know, even if he's rich, Trust me, you're not Gonna probably have a good out when you're ready to leave.

Chris Franjola (41:49)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (41:49)

And then also it's the power thing. So like if she had tried to leave before to try to be an actress or anything, he still had a lot of power and connection. So he probably would have killed any opportunity she really had.

Chris Franjola (42:01)

Right.

Heather McDonald (42:01)

So she's probably just like, you know what, I'm just gonna power through. And then it's been quite a few years since she wrote the book and now she's setting out to change her name. Was the last thing I saw get rid of Hefner.

Chris Franjola (42:13)

Good.

Heather McDonald (42:14)

But Kendra Wilkinson said that she was got high at a Sublime concert the day that Hugh Hefner died and she doesn't feel badly.

Chris Franjola (42:22)

Good for her. Way to turn it around. Yeah. Good.

Heather McDonald (42:27)

Tristan Thompson has been suspended for 25 games for violating NBA's anti drug program.

Chris Franjola (42:33)

Yeah, I saw that. I mean, this guy, he just can't stay out of trouble, huh?

Heather McDonald (42:37)

They said, according to the NBA, the Cleveland Cavaliers forward tested positive for banned substances. And it's called IBU Tamorin. And anyway, they are, you know, I guess they're like steroids, they're fraud enhancing. So you know, all the stuff writes itself. You know, like he cheated on Chloe, he's cheated with Jordan woods and with other women and he had another baby with and her whole family seems to stick by him and think he's the greatest dad ever. And now this thing is pretty bad. So when you are suspended since you're, you know, a dude.

Chris Franjola (43:15)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (43:15)

So you missed 25 games. Isn't the season over by Ned in.

Chris Franjola (43:19)

The case of the NBA? No, I think there's 80 something games. So there's a lot.

Heather McDonald (43:23)

So then you're suspended for 25 games to make sure that the drugs are out of your body. And then they retest you and then if they want you back, then they let you back in.

Chris Franjola (43:31)

Yes, exactly. And if he gets, I think he tests again, he's out for like a whole season, like next season if it's the same rules as major league.

Heather McDonald (43:38)

So. And then won't it be interesting if once they the 25 games are up and they test him and there's nothing in his system. What if he just totally sucks?

Chris Franjola (43:46)

Well, he probably could. Yeah.

Heather McDonald (43:48)

Like without him.

Chris Franjola (43:49)

A lot of times that's happened, like they get off the and they just don't have the same career they once had because it gets this stuff worked, you know, see these guys hitting, you know, 100 home runs, right? They get off and they hit 20 home runs.

Heather McDonald (44:01)

It's like. And then they're like, oh, but you're. Yeah, you're cheating. You know, that's like the way people feel about Ozempic. You're cheating.

Chris Franjola (44:07)

Right?

Heather McDonald (44:07)

Yeah, cheating. What?

Chris Franjola (44:09)

I know.

Heather McDonald (44:09)

Cheating. Wanting to get into a size four Jean. Like, what is it your issue? Like, what do you care?

Chris Franjola (44:14)

That's the kind of way I felt about, like the steroid year of sports, you know, because they. If they're going to charge you go to a baseball game now, it's $400 for a good ticket, right? Used to be 10.

Heather McDonald (44:23)

So you want to see them all on steroids.

Chris Franjola (44:25)

Exactly. So I want to see. I want to see 20 home run. If I want to see ground balls to the. To the pitcher, I'll go watch my daughter play softball.

Heather McDonald (44:35)

Yeah, maybe you're right there. You just go, fuck it, everyone. But then there's still going to be the people that then don't have the opportunity to get the drugs or don't want to take the drugs. So you've got to take the drugs off the table. When did the drugs first, like, become known?

Chris Franjola (44:47)

Jose Canseco, I think, was the first one to really put it on the map. He's. You probably remember him. He was this crazy, jacked up.

Heather McDonald (44:56)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (44:57)

It was just, I mean, to look at that era, like, you watch old.

Heather McDonald (45:00)

Is Jose Canseco the one that hates a rod?

Chris Franjola (45:03)

Yes.

Heather McDonald (45:04)

And like, trolls him on the Internet?

Chris Franjola (45:06)

I think so, yeah. Okay.

Heather McDonald (45:07)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (45:08)

Because he's the one first person who said, broke down the steroid thing in baseball. And all the other baseball players were like. I mean, there were guys who looked right at the camera because they had to go to some congressional hearing about it, and they would look right in the camera. I think it was Rafael Palmeiro was one of them. He looked right in the camera. He's like, I did not do steroids. And of course, he was like a Clinton.

Heather McDonald (45:30)

I did not have sex with that one.

Chris Franjola (45:31)

Completely a steroid out for his entire career. And most of them were. Anyway, that's a boring story for this podcast.

Heather McDonald (45:38)

Yeah, no, but I mean, I. It is. It is interesting. So, you know, we'll see. Okay. Meanwhile, in the Kardashian world, Kanye west had his now legal wife. Not legal wife, I don't know. But she was just having to cook in this kitchen that's just. Nothing fancy. It looks like, you know, it looks like a small house. It look, well, like that redid their kitchen in like 1995. And she's wearing a black, you know, zip up dominatrix hoodie boots. And the tiniest one piece and then another one. He put her in a black dominatrix jacket with these weird shoes. And Chris Frangiola, I noticed you had a funny little comment under here. Chris bringing the comedy in the comments. He writes, do you live in a one bedroom in Yucca?

Chris Franjola (46:32)

Well, if you guys knew Yucca here in Hollywood, it's a street and the apartments on that street. This makes so much sense.

Heather McDonald (46:40)

Like, I'm ready for like, we're ready to see those blinds.

Chris Franjola (46:43)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (46:43)

And there's only like three missing that cover, the aluminum sliders.

Chris Franjola (46:48)

Yeah, this looks exact. That brown carpet, that kitchen that you saw in the earlier picture.

Heather McDonald (46:52)

Three walls with white trim.

Chris Franjola (46:54)

It's all. So one bedroom apartment on Yucca.

Heather McDonald (46:57)

It really is.

Chris Franjola (46:58)

And that's why I was. That was the most shocking thing about the pictures. I find this girl to be very attractive.

Heather McDonald (47:04)

Very attractive.

Chris Franjola (47:05)

She's a very good looking person.

Heather McDonald (47:07)

Everyone's like, why is someone not, you know, rescuing her? I have said it and I think I'm on the right side of history in my prediction. I think she's completely in on it. I don't think they even fuck.

Chris Franjola (47:19)

Right. Like the other girl.

Heather McDonald (47:20)

Yeah. Like Julia Foxx said they never boned. And I think she's like, fine. I think she's getting paid under the table to go along with it.

Chris Franjola (47:29)

Right.

Heather McDonald (47:29)

She came from some mafia family, allegedly from Australia.

Chris Franjola (47:33)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (47:34)

And I think she's just like, I don't care. Like, I'm gonna be more famous than anybody and whatever. If I wanna leave in a month, I'm gonna walk away with probably a couple million dollars.

Chris Franjola (47:44)

I always wonder when.

Heather McDonald (47:47)

So then here he did a photo shoot and he invited the paparazzi. And so she has some like weird fur rug on her head and something. And then he is covered with playing the piano while she does it. This video with his head. And then here they are wearing raincoats and they're both naked underneath. Or she's just naked underneath a pair of boots. And then this is the best one. She wore these pants, these little shorts that had like a little circle. And this guy. Yeah, Gillette slays. I follow him on TikTok. He said, it's for you wear these to do a strap on. Oh, and remember when Amber Rose had that great Twitter thread where she said, he likes me to do butt play with him and everything?

Chris Franjola (48:32)

Oh. Oh.

Heather McDonald (48:34)

So I don't. I don't know if he wants people to know. I feel like everything is deliberate. So I don't think that she just threw these on before going out, and she used them the night before to, like, service Kanye.

Chris Franjola (48:46)

Right.

Heather McDonald (48:46)

I think everything is deliberate. And he doesn't care.

Chris Franjola (48:50)

I don't have those in my.

Heather McDonald (48:52)

But, like, look at his, like, awful outfit for just going out. He wears, like a. Like a sweat, like a crop top sweatshirt. He looks heavy. He needs eozempic.

Chris Franjola (49:03)

Honestly, I mean, I just don't understand when you'd start dating somebody. I don't know how they met. Did they ever say how they met?

Heather McDonald (49:10)

She worked for him or something.

Chris Franjola (49:11)

Oh, she was like, hired him. Yeah.

Heather McDonald (49:13)

And then she. Hayden chose her because she looks like Kim. And the other. The other thing is, is this his art of mocking Kim? He found a girl that looks like Kim. Like, it's, you know, whatever. What do you call it when people do, like, where they're like, live art, like, doing something.

Chris Franjola (49:32)

Performance art.

Heather McDonald (49:33)

Yes. I think this is his version of performance art.

Chris Franjola (49:35)

Right.

Heather McDonald (49:36)

And it's to mock Kim and her sexuality and, you know, and how sexy she was. He found a girl that's like a. A younger, more natural, pretty, very pretty version very similar to Kim's face.

Chris Franjola (49:51)

The greatest 15 minutes of my life was years ago. My brother. My older brother was dating a performance artist in New York City. And that's what she called herself, I guess. And my mother trying to explain to my father what a performance artist was. My father just couldn't understand it. Now. Now she's an artist. She does paintings. No, no, Jean. She's a performance artist. She's a perform. She does performance. Like, what type of performance? And then my mother's explained. She, I don't know, eats dog food or something. But she's a artist. Like, that is. That is something you can't explain to an old white guy.

Heather McDonald (50:35)

Like, so many movies have scenes of people going to an art opening or an art exhibit or walking up and looking at something, and then a guy hits on you.

Chris Franjola (50:44)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (50:45)

And I'd watch so many movies, and then I'm like, I'm gonna go to a museum by myself today, and obviously I'm gonna be, you know, love it. Right. Have someone hit on me and experience after, like, a little bit, I was like, all right, yeah, I got it. Like how? I don't know.

Chris Franjola (51:02)

I know it is.

Heather McDonald (51:03)

It can be. I mean, it's a good thing to do, like, for yourself or for the kids. But I feel like it's in so many movies and it's not in real life. Like, how often are normal people going to like art openings. Unless you're in that world.

Chris Franjola (51:15)

I know, but I feel like, yeah, there's a couple of good. I miss the days of speaking of that type of behavior, like the 80s or early 90s movies where the rich people were just aghast at a poor person would even enter the same room, you know, and they would, you know, they would visibly and audibly just go, oh, Like.

Heather McDonald (51:36)

And also, the soundtrack is always like. Like opera, like opera music. Yeah. They're like, oh.

Chris Franjola (51:45)

Like Tom Cruise comes into that in Cocktail. I believe he gets into a fight at an art exhibit. I will say he was a bartender. What the hell are you doing here?

Heather McDonald (51:53)

Not to toot my own horn, but the white chick's jokes. Totally funny, Completely held up.

Chris Franjola (51:59)

Yeah. Oh, really? That's good.

Heather McDonald (52:01)

Really funny and totally held up. I mean, yes, you're watching a ridiculous, fun movie, but there were some really funny jokes that I forgot about that were in there.

Chris Franjola (52:09)

That's good.

Heather McDonald (52:09)

But, yeah, I agree. That's so true. Okay, so Travis, Kelsey, he did the little heart thing. Yeah, they're definitely together. The brother took off his shirt, and then he helped this little girl say, like, I guess the little girl was a Taylor fan. Yeah, but. So she was behind their rich person booth. But she looked like she had pretty good seats, too. So then he went down and lifted her up so that she could, like, wave to Taylor, But Taylor didn't come down and he didn't let the little girl go in.

Chris Franjola (52:45)

Right.

Heather McDonald (52:45)

And then, of course, people criticized that and was like, I wouldn't let a grown man pick up my daughter. And other people are like, oh, God, leave it alone, you weirdo.

Chris Franjola (52:52)

She's a nice moment. You weird.

Heather McDonald (52:54)

They're like, he's a dad of three something.

Chris Franjola (52:56)

Enjoy something, you maniacs.

Heather McDonald (52:59)

But, you know, he had fun. And, you know, this is all for podcast listens. Obviously their show is killing.

Chris Franjola (53:07)

Yeah, the Kelce Brothers.

Heather McDonald (53:08)

But I was going to say, and then she had this guy got arrested in front of her apartment. The stalker.

Chris Franjola (53:15)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (53:16)

Yeah. He'd been loitering around the front of her apartment. And not that I don't want to take anything from her.

Chris Franjola (53:22)

Right.

Heather McDonald (53:22)

But do you know how many women have strange people loitering in front of their apartments these days? And the police will never come or care. Yeah, I mean, we all have people loitering that are saying weird in front of our apartments.

Chris Franjola (53:39)

I don't.

Heather McDonald (53:41)

Well, I don't live in an apartment. But, I mean, there's so, you know, it's like, what are you supposed to do, like, wow, they really went, like, good for them for arresting him. And I definitely think he's a threat, but, like, be nice if other people could get that kind of response.

Chris Franjola (53:54)

Right.

Heather McDonald (53:54)

Okay, this story is crazy.

Chris Franjola (53:56)

So this man, also Kansas City Chiefs.

Heather McDonald (54:00)

Related because they were watching the game.

Chris Franjola (54:03)

So three Chiefs fans.

Heather McDonald (54:04)

Yeah, these four guys were watching. They went over to this one guy's house and they watched the game. Now, there was a fifth band who said, I left. And they. By that time, they were watching, like, Jeopardy. The game had ended, and I left.

Chris Franjola (54:21)

Something strikes me is that none of these guys are good at Jeopardy.

Heather McDonald (54:27)

Now, this isn't a funny story, per se. So anyway, the three guys that were left at the one guy's house, nobody hears from them. And they're like, well, wait, they went to this guy's house. They text him, they try to message him on Facebook. No one gets ahold of him. They watch the game on Sunday. Not until Tuesday did the owner of the house respond. And finally they came to the house. People came to the house, and they're like, where are they? And they realized that they were all three dead in the fro and, like, in the frozen snow and frozen on his back porch.

Chris Franjola (55:09)

Right.

Heather McDonald (55:10)

So we. You know, it always takes a while to find out, like, what is in their system, what happened. He said now his attorney is saying the owner of the house was sleeping on his couch for two days.

Chris Franjola (55:25)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (55:25)

He didn't wake up till Tuesday.

Chris Franjola (55:28)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (55:28)

If that is the case, then they're either gonna find some weird drugs in these people's.

Chris Franjola (55:33)

It sounds exactly like, you know, I mean, I've heard these stories before. It sounds like, you know, what is that drug that's in all the.

Heather McDonald (55:41)

Fentanyl.

Chris Franjola (55:41)

Yeah, fentanyl. It sounds very Fentanyl.

Heather McDonald (55:44)

Like they just tried something for fun.

Chris Franjola (55:46)

Right.

Heather McDonald (55:46)

And then they went outside to, like, have a cigarette or something and then just all just like, drop dead. And the other guy was already passed out and he lived.

Chris Franjola (55:54)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (55:55)

I mean, you know, and then, well, who knows where they got the drugs from? You know, that's always something that they talk about. Will we prosecute drug dealers? That. Or people or. Or they're trying in certain cities to prosecute people who just give you a drug that might have the fentanyl if you die, I could be then, you know, involved in your death. So I don't know. But obviously this guy, they're going to talk more to the guy who owns the house. And I think that's a pretty good defense, is that I was asleep for two days. They ought.

Chris Franjola (56:28)

I mean, you think that's a good defense?

Heather McDonald (56:30)

I do think that's a good defense, because I think it's going to turn out that we all did a drug.

Chris Franjola (56:33)

Right.

Heather McDonald (56:34)

And I passed out and they went outside and I. Like, I don't. What's the alternative? That I killed all three of my friends and locked the door.

Chris Franjola (56:42)

Right.

Heather McDonald (56:42)

And let them freeze while I was.

Chris Franjola (56:44)

Like, there's other ways out of the backyard. Like. Like, if the door was locked, they're like, well, just go to the gate. Like, no, I thought they must have died of something else.

Heather McDonald (56:52)

I think they definitely died of a drug overdose, something. And they were. Happened to be outside high or talking or whatever, and then just. It all hit them at the same time. And he probably should have died, too, but he woke up two days later.

Chris Franjola (57:06)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (57:07)

I don't know. Very weird. Okay. Sofia Vergara now says that she and Joe, her husband, are. They did get divorced because he wanted kids. And she was like, no, I'm heading into menopause. I think she's 50 or close to it. Oh, she's 51, he's 47. And she has a son that she had at, like, 19. And she's like, I'm down to just be a grandma. Maybe in a few years he'll be a grandma. But like, no, I don't want this. And I thought it was the Chihuahua. I don't think that helped. He had a little Chihuahua that was not into her at all. Oh.

Chris Franjola (57:44)

Oh, I didn't know.

Heather McDonald (57:45)

And then he brought around everywhere. He now has a new girlfriend. Is like 33.

Chris Franjola (57:49)

Saw that.

Heather McDonald (57:50)

And I just feel like I think this sometimes can happen. But I think whether you're the man or the woman in the situation, how is this not, like, decided and agreed upon that you're gonna have kids or you're not, or you're gonna try and you're not. I think he lied, and I think he told her, like, no, I'm totally good.

Chris Franjola (58:11)

Right.

Heather McDonald (58:11)

And then they started having marital problems. And then he was like, you know what? I gave up everything for you. Like, I'm never gonna be a dad. And then she's like, oh, fuck you. You know, go be a dad. Then, you know, like, you know, after what she's been through with the ex husband who hijacked their eggs, those twin eggs, you don't want that. Those twin end. So she had an ex husband.

Chris Franjola (58:30)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (58:30)

And they had made embryos together.

Chris Franjola (58:33)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (58:33)

And they had agreed that, you know, if they didn't stay Together, whatever. Then the embryos would be destroyed. They break up. He's not a winner. He's nowhere near, like, her success. She's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. And he is like, no, I would like to have these two embryos put into a surrogate and raise them. And she's like, no, we decided. No, I don't want. It went on for years. And he got, like, all the religious people backing him. Like, these are two embryos that deserve to live because they're essentially a life. And in the end, she won to get possession of them again, to either donate or destroy whatever she wants. But it was a good lesson for people to learn not to make embryos with somebody that you're not 100% sure you want to be with.

Chris Franjola (59:24)

I've always said that. That is a rule I live by. Everybody knows.

Heather McDonald (59:28)

But this is why I'm like, girls, have the babies on your own. Like, just get a donor sperm or whatever. And then, hey, if the guy comes along, great. And then when he's gone, he's. You can't decide if your kid gets to play soccer or not. You're in charge anyway, so.

Chris Franjola (59:42)

Man's feet. He's got a new girl. He's hosting. He's hosting a game show. I saw. He's the host of Deal or no Deal on an Island.

Heather McDonald (59:51)

Yes.

Chris Franjola (59:51)

Oh, I feel like that's what you got to do with reality shows now.

Heather McDonald (59:54)

Just put it on an island.

Chris Franjola (59:54)

Put on an island.

Heather McDonald (59:55)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (59:55)

Say take. We got to get. Put him in a bathing suit. Yeah. And get him on an island. So it's Deal and no Deal on an island, and he's the host.

Heather McDonald (60:04)

Really? Yeah.

Chris Franjola (60:05)

It's called Deal or no Deal on, like, the.

Heather McDonald (60:07)

With the. Meghan Markle.

Chris Franjola (60:09)

I don't think there's suitcases. There's money hidden somewhere in the jungle, and you gotta find it.

Heather McDonald (60:13)

Meghan Markle and Harry just went to Jamaica.

Chris Franjola (60:16)

Is that right?

Heather McDonald (60:17)

To do the red carpet for the one Love, the Bob Marley movie.

Chris Franjola (60:21)

Movie.

Heather McDonald (60:22)

That one. Like, I'll go see. Oh, yeah, yeah, that one.

Chris Franjola (60:24)

I wouldn't have guessed that in a million years.

Heather McDonald (60:26)

I like the music. Why not?

Chris Franjola (60:28)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (60:29)

Kind of light and fun.

Chris Franjola (60:30)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (60:30)

Go to a fancy movie theater. Have, like, a Mai Tai.

Chris Franjola (60:33)

Nobody the dirt. You're like, all right, we don't need that. Let's just couple anyway. Get us out of.

Heather McDonald (60:38)

They're in Jamaica, and I just. I'm like, I know that they hopped on someone's private jet for free.

Chris Franjola (60:43)

Absolutely. They. What do you think they flew Spirit.

Heather McDonald (60:46)

No, but I just wonder, like, who.

Chris Franjola (60:48)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (60:49)

Like, who still wants to, like, have them be the couple?

Chris Franjola (60:51)

Anybody would take that.

Heather McDonald (60:53)

I've heard some people have gotten tired of, like, them mooching. But anyway, yeah.

Chris Franjola (60:58)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (60:59)

So then she is now facing a lawsuit for the. For the. The family members of the role that she's playing. So she's playing this.

Chris Franjola (61:08)

Yes.

Heather McDonald (61:08)

This female drug lord that comes out today, Thursday on Netflix.

Chris Franjola (61:12)

Right.

Heather McDonald (61:12)

On Netflix. A limited series and trying to changed her look and everything. I'm very excited. I think it'll be really good. And the. The relatives are saying, well, when we. We talked to Netflix about this and we told them stories off the record that we said, we don't want this being portrayed in the. In the series. And now it is. So we're suing. Like, good fucking luck. Anyway, she's not worried. She was dancing in Miami with her girlfriends child. Not childless. She has a child, but no babies in sight. Doing killer movies and things she wants to do.

Chris Franjola (61:43)

I mean, she's on top of the world.

Heather McDonald (61:45)

Yeah. Please have some fun. Okay. Amy Robach and T.J. holmes, they get their podcast. This is not number one. This is getting press every single episode. What is going on?

Chris Franjola (61:59)

Have you listened to any of it? No. Oh, I have. It is. Man, it is so boring. It's so boring. Like, congratulations to you, who does an interesting podcast and myself who do.

Heather McDonald (62:11)

Thank you.

Chris Franjola (62:12)

It's not easy. It's not easy. And I think people like this learn that after four episodes, like, we're out of things to talk about. And as you can see, this is what's happening.

Heather McDonald (62:19)

Well, she's getting bitter. Yeah, of course, according to this, she's getting a little bitter because she's like. They started to bicker and they had to start to have, like, some awkward moments. These are the things that they've revealed on it. One, that they were like functioning alcoholics after they were fired, Right. And they would go for a run and start drinking at 10, and he was having 18 drinks a day. The other one is they like to have some shower sex. Okay, great. The other one is that when they get in a fight, he basically does, like, the silent treatment and just goes away and, like, ignores her for three days or whatever, which is super annoying. And now she's like, if this doesn't work out between us, like, I feel like it's got to work out between us because we've given up everything. And actually, I miss. I'm kind of pissed at you because I don't want to do this fucking Podcast with you anymore. Now she realizes it's not that easy. It's not that fun. And she'd much rather walk into a studio with people fluffing her hair and the whole world seeing her and being done at 10 and not producing her own shit and figuring out what we're gonna say and arguing with this fucker.

Chris Franjola (63:26)

Right.

Heather McDonald (63:26)

You know, and so, yeah, so it's. Yeah. Welcome. Welcome to.

Chris Franjola (63:31)

I mean, don't podcasting not to be this guy be. But don't we all kind of want to see this one break up? I mean, in a way.

Heather McDonald (63:38)

Well, I mean, there's.

Chris Franjola (63:40)

I'm the first. Because they're a little much.

Heather McDonald (63:41)

But there's the. I'm the first to admit that, you know, when I see that someone undeservingly gets a podcast and has articles written about them every day, I think I've maybe been in the press maybe 10 times over a thousand episodes. Like, and because I don't have a PR person, like, you know, funneling it through or calling Harvey Bielon. So I'm kind of like, yeah, well, I won't be sad if this fails. Like, please, like, there's people that do this for a real job. That. And we. We didn't have this. I'll just do a podcast. After I got fired for, like, being married and screwing some guy that also was married. So who knows? This couple was on a flight.

Chris Franjola (64:25)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (64:25)

And they demanded that their child. They had two free first class tickets in one economy.

Chris Franjola (64:31)

Right.

Heather McDonald (64:32)

The economy was in the child's name. And then they were like, well, we need another first class for the child because the child can't sit by themselves. And of course, anybody would be like, one of you can sit with child up front and the other parent has got to go back there. Like, someone's got to sacrifice. But they, I think they thought that that would be their little trickery. Like, who's going to put a little toddler by themselves? And they're like, well, one of. And the whole flight they had to. Everyone had to get off. And do you imagine.

Chris Franjola (65:03)

Oh, I mean, that. I feel like there's a lot of.

Heather McDonald (65:06)

There's a lot of plane. This other one, they said this guy looked out the window and saw that this flight was missing all these bolts on the wings.

Chris Franjola (65:14)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (65:15)

So then they called and they said, okay, we'll fix it, but, like, we probably would have been fine. So thanks for being such a narc.

Chris Franjola (65:21)

And I'm going to say this about the door that flew off the Alaska Airlines and things like this. Let's. Okay, okay. That was crazy. And it was. Nobody got hurt. One kid lost a T shirt. That's what I've heard. And other than that, it was. But let's give some credit to the mechanics or whoever keeps these planes running, because it's shocking that that incident is the only one that has happened in forever. And there are planes every. Millions of flights every day, millions of planes, and nothing really happens ever. And that's what we should be focusing on. Not the one door that came off, but all the doors that stay on. How's that? Thank you very much, everyone. That's Delta Airlines.

Heather McDonald (66:12)

Wasn't it that those two seats where the door blew off, they were never sold or that no one ever sat in it?

Chris Franjola (66:19)

Nobody sat in it. Yeah, there was one kid.

Heather McDonald (66:21)

Like, but don't you think that is, like, weird either divine intervention or human intervention? Like, how is that?

Chris Franjola (66:27)

I don't know. I mean, I don't think they. Yeah. Who knows? But it's just. I thought. I watched the video of it and I thought everybody was being really a little too calm. Like, there was one guy just sitting. His hair's like blowing and the window. And the door's off.

Heather McDonald (66:45)

So the door just fell off like mid flight.

Chris Franjola (66:47)

I guess it wasn't supposed to be a door to begin with. They put these doors on that type of plane and it wasn't actually a door. It wasn't a functional door from what I had heard. But it's. Yeah.

Heather McDonald (67:00)

Cause I'm always. If I can't afford the first class, I do the exit row, which always stresses me out because I'm like, there's no way I'm gonna.

Chris Franjola (67:09)

You gotta help.

Heather McDonald (67:10)

I'm gonna know how to do this and open the door. Like, I'm definitely gonna burn.

Chris Franjola (67:14)

Right.

Heather McDonald (67:14)

If it's up to me, like. And then if I, If I do get out there, I'm not gonna be like the last one to go with the captain. I'm going to go down the slide first.

Chris Franjola (67:22)

Yeah, yeah.

Heather McDonald (67:22)

I'm just. And then just act like I didn't realize it.

Chris Franjola (67:25)

I would imagine you're the type to crawl over children to get out. I got, I got shit to do. I gotta. I got a 9:30 show.

Heather McDonald (67:35)

Oh my God. I don't know. So this guy Nick Cannon was saying that he said to the New York, there's this rapper who got five women pregnant at the same time. And now Nick Cannon's like, oh, rest up and go to therapy. And these girls are all excited on TikTok that they're all gonna have their babies together. And, I mean, what are these girls thinking? I guess they just don't care.

Chris Franjola (68:03)

Some people just want.

Heather McDonald (68:04)

I just think they just think I can make money on TikTok and I don't need to really worry about it.

Chris Franjola (68:09)

I was just in Las Vegas for a week. I was in seven days. I was in Las Vegas performing. And there's a lot of kids in the casinos, but, like, little kids, like, one, two at midnight.

Heather McDonald (68:26)

But they can't. In the. In the place where you're playing, they can't touch.

Chris Franjola (68:30)

No, I don't think they can go on. Like, the carpet. They have to stay on whatever. The path that leads to wherever. I don't know.

Heather McDonald (68:36)

That makes me so uncomfortable that you could, like, be distracted.

Chris Franjola (68:39)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (68:40)

And then, like, some creep takes your kid.

Chris Franjola (68:43)

I mean, I don't know if there's any of that going on, but it was. There's a lot of. A lot of kids in the casino at midnight.

Heather McDonald (68:49)

I remember when it first became that they were like. Like, it was like 25 years ago, where all of a sudden they're like. Because there was, like, the Vegas time, like, the casino time, okay. That everybody, like, was glamorous, and it was, like, this fabulous place to go. Then it, like, blew, like, in the 90s. Then it was like. This is becoming too kid friendly.

Chris Franjola (69:08)

Yeah. Remember, they went. They. They, like. That's. That was the angle. They went kid friendly.

Heather McDonald (69:13)

Yeah. And now it's just like. I don't know. There's just so many choice. Did you go by the fountain blue?

Chris Franjola (69:19)

No, because it's apparently dead. Like, there's nobody there. They've just fired their third CEO in, like, a month.

Heather McDonald (69:27)

Oh, really? You can't even go to, like, the fancy restaurants?

Chris Franjola (69:30)

No. I mean, there's nothing going on there. I went over in that area and it was. Yeah. So anyway, it's this interesting story. What's happening to the fountain blue. So.

Heather McDonald (69:39)

And then this guy is a biological father of 97 kids. He's now pushing for sperm to be, I guess not like, overly used. You can buy the sperm. You could buy the whole lot, which is what I would suggest any girl to do.

Chris Franjola (69:55)

What do you mean, the whole lot?

Heather McDonald (69:56)

Like, if you go to a sperm bank and you put.

Chris Franjola (69:58)

I choose to just lick it out of a drainage. That's how I get my sperm.

Heather McDonald (70:04)

No, like, if you go to a sperm donor and you pick out this guy and he's cute and, you know, and everybody wants the guy that's like, of a certain height.

Chris Franjola (70:11)

You don't want him to be.

Heather McDonald (70:12)

You want him to be like. Like a med. You wanted to be good at everything. So you want, like, the medical student who also plays guitar, but also was, like, on the. On, like, you know, the tennis team or the baseball team or something, and, you know, has. And then you only can, like, look at their baby pictures. And then you're like, yeah, I want that. But for an extra amount, which some people can't afford, you can say, I'm gonna buy all of his.

Chris Franjola (70:37)

So he can't have other.

Heather McDonald (70:38)

So other people can't buy it, and then they can't. So that. I think that's going to be more what's going to happen now, because now he's, like, meeting with all these kids and, you know, so this guy.

Chris Franjola (70:48)

I mean, that was, like, his business. He just went in.

Heather McDonald (70:51)

Yeah. He's probably. He was an engineer and, you know, and so he was smart, and it was, you know, easy. Easy money. And I guess. I guess, you know, and just, like, a premium egg. He probably was a premium sperm donor and made a lot of money whacking off. But then there's all these, you know, kids running around now. Chris, get ready for the end of the world.

Chris Franjola (71:13)

Oh, no, here we go.

Heather McDonald (71:14)

Ancient zombie viruses are trapped in the Arctic ice.

Chris Franjola (71:18)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (71:19)

And they could unleash a deadly new pandemic. It's a tangible threat.

Chris Franjola (71:23)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (71:24)

I don't really understand the science thing, but I guess it's like, as the snow melts, there could be something down in the Earth that could, like, come up and be, like, really fucking gross and take us down.

Chris Franjola (71:35)

Right? Yeah. I mean, isn't this, like, the plot of, like, you know, the Creature from the Black Lagoon or things like that?

Heather McDonald (71:44)

Yes. There's this. And then the next thing I saw was spring of 2024, maybe buzzing with an explosion of more than 1 trillion. How do you say that?

Chris Franjola (71:54)

Cicadas.

Heather McDonald (71:55)

Cicadas, yeah. The first time they were Gonna hit in 221 years.

Chris Franjola (72:00)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (72:01)

And I'm like, all right, but what happened? Remember when there was all, like, those birds that showed up or all those.

Chris Franjola (72:07)

Dead birds fell out of the sky?

Heather McDonald (72:08)

Yeah. That just fell out of the sky. There's all that weird shit. There's aliens. And then I'm still like, wait. You know what we haven't heard about this week? The list. The Epstein list. Who are they? Where are they? We still don't know.

Chris Franjola (72:20)

No, I think it came out. It just wasn't that exciting. It was, like, people we all heard before.

Heather McDonald (72:24)

Oh, is that it?

Chris Franjola (72:25)

Yeah, you know, I mean, as far as I know, I don't know any. You know, what I had read was Bill Clinton and, you know, Prince Andrew and David Copperfield and we're like, yeah, obviously. Yeah, well, that was. Yeah, we heard that.

Heather McDonald (72:37)

I know. I feel like it was like such. Not like a juicy scoop.

Chris Franjola (72:42)

I think that's what happened. It wasn't as juicy as everyone was hoping it was going to. To be.

Heather McDonald (72:45)

Well, there's just. No, but there's still. I think that's. Yeah, like, where is the evidence? Or if they really did collect all that stuff and they have all these videos and stuff, it takes someone to be like, yeah, okay, let's share it. And whoever that person is is getting paid to say, oh, we misplaced it, it's in a storage unit, it's on the palm, whatever.

Chris Franjola (73:06)

For some reason, to me, the Jeffrey Epstein story just doesn't do it for me because I'm like, what? Old men are perverts? Like, yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all. Like, none of this, like, especially the people that talking about. I'm like, yeah, well, we all knew that about like a Bill Clinton type. Some of these people, like, if I saw something like, even the David Copperfield one, I. We all kind of knew he was a little pervy.

Heather McDonald (73:27)

And I also just think, like, I remember I did like a follow up on it and it was like my worst episode and I thought like, everybody would want to know about this. And I'm like, I guess just like anything, they just get over it. It's like Kim Kardashian is now the face of Balenciaga. And everybody's like, so what?

Chris Franjola (73:42)

Yeah, yeah, right, right, right.

Heather McDonald (73:43)

And it's like, yeah, everyone gets over everything. That's why.

Chris Franjola (73:47)

Because I feel like people have shit to do, you know, and, you know, people have like.

Heather McDonald (73:50)

Well, I also think it's like, honestly in the scheme of things, you know, this like the Internet world that comes together, that's not the mainstream media that really tries to get like people upset and everything. It's the still such a small percentage that like writes in and demands that somebody be canceled for saying something or, you know, oh my gosh, look at this. And I was very into the Balenciaga thing. I thought it was really. I couldn't believe it. Now I look back and I'm like, was that a plan by Balenciaga this whole time to get people to come just to get us talking? Was it all set up? Because there were no children that were really abused there. It was just a weird situation they put them in. And then they had that. The papers on the, the ads. And I'm like. And then everyone just didn't say anything about it. Now it's. Everyone went to the Balenciaga fashion show and everyone's just like, I'm fine with it. You know what I mean?

Chris Franjola (74:47)

I don't like, I've seen that. I don't like the sneakers. About too big of a bottom on it. And a big old sole on the Balenciaga sneaker. Not a fan.

Heather McDonald (74:57)

All of the stuff. I just feel like I finally, you know, could afford, you know, some label Y nice things.

Chris Franjola (75:05)

Sure.

Heather McDonald (75:05)

And I'm so incredibly turned off by like the robberies and the counterfeit and the. And this.

Chris Franjola (75:14)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (75:15)

And like people that are just wearing a big shirt, they're just like Gucci. Like, I'm like, I don't want any of it. Like, I just feel like.

Chris Franjola (75:22)

So what do you go with?

Heather McDonald (75:23)

I just go with normal clothes. I just go like, I'll buy like a nice Vince blouse or like a fitted black blazer that's like, you know, not a label Y thing. Like, I don't know, I just, I'm not, you know, I can still afford like a nicer product, but like, I just, I don't know, it kind of bumps me out because I'm like, I was just getting kind of excited about it and sometimes I'll see something nice and I'm just like, yeah, I'm turned off.

Chris Franjola (75:48)

Okay. I got a. I was in once again in Vegas for seven days. And you still have to lose your mind a little bit if you spend that amount of time in a casino. Cause you don't really go outside. And you know, there's the real nice shops in Vegas.

Heather McDonald (76:03)

Right.

Chris Franjola (76:04)

And then there's just like these, I don't know, kind of just shops.

Heather McDonald (76:08)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (76:08)

Where they got like button up shirts with like dragons still that look, you know what I mean? Kind of an Ed Hardy almost. That's still going affliction, whatever that was. That's still out there for some, I guess. But then I saw a hat. Like a, you know, what do they call that hat?

Heather McDonald (76:24)

Like a bucket hat?

Chris Franjola (76:25)

No, like a pork pie or pork pie something. You know what I mean? Like, not a bucket hat. Not a bucket hat. Like a fedora.

Heather McDonald (76:32)

Okay.

Chris Franjola (76:33)

I think it's.

Heather McDonald (76:33)

Anyway, he calls it a pork pie.

Chris Franjola (76:35)

I think that's what it's called. I think that's the type for a fedora hat. Yeah. But it's not a. It like, folds up in the front and around the sides. You know what I mean?

Heather McDonald (76:44)

Like a cowboy hat.

Chris Franjola (76:45)

No. All right.

Heather McDonald (76:46)

Or whatever.

Chris Franjola (76:47)

Like a derby. Anyway. Like Thursday.

Heather McDonald (76:52)

Okay.

Chris Franjola (76:53)

I kept walking past it every day because I had to walk the same route to the comedy club.

Heather McDonald (76:57)

Yeah. How much was it?

Chris Franjola (76:58)

Maybe I'd be this guy. Finally. I'm like. Because I think I could. I'm getting older. People tell me to wear hats in the sun. I'm like this. But I can't. Baseball hats are not accepted everywhere. You know, I don't look like that guy.

Heather McDonald (77:10)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (77:11)

So I got this. And now. But that is a type of person, you know what I mean? I'd have to change my whole lifestyle to wear this hat. And I brought it home and my wife said, get that fucking thing out of this house.

Heather McDonald (77:24)

Wait, I need to see it. Do you have a photo of it?

Chris Franjola (77:26)

I don't. I was going to bring it today to show you just for fun, and I forgot.

Heather McDonald (77:33)

So it is kind of interesting when you're like, am I going to be that person?

Chris Franjola (77:37)

That's what. There are certain looks.

Heather McDonald (77:39)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (77:39)

You. You now the whole. Your whole life has to be around that look. Like those Betty Page rockabilly guys. You know that look. You got to drive now. You got to drive a 1956 car. Like, the whole look is.

Heather McDonald (77:52)

Is encompassing.

Chris Franjola (77:54)

Yeah. You got to do the whole show.

Heather McDonald (77:56)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (77:56)

Put on the whole show, you know?

Heather McDonald (77:58)

Right. Or you're going to be that person that buys, like, the old rock and roll. Sometimes I do see, like. Like I did get, like a cute Kiss T shirt just because it was pink and cute. It looked really cute.

Chris Franjola (78:09)

Right.

Heather McDonald (78:09)

And I mean, I grew. I was. My brother made Shannon and I be kissed for one Halloween. I was the drummer and she was the cat.

Chris Franjola (78:19)

The drummer is the cat.

Heather McDonald (78:20)

No, I was the drummer cat and she was angel, the star.

Chris Franjola (78:23)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (78:24)

Okay. And then he made us Paul Stanley. Then he, like, made us, like, the cardboard things, put foil on our shoes. It was so cute. And. And I've gone to a Kiss concert and all that stuff. And so I'm like, all right. I feel like I can buy this shirt. Yeah. But, like, I. I worry about that, too. Like, sometimes I see. I like that. I like the look of it because it's like that look of like an old fashioned rocker shirt that's, like a little bit frayed at the top and it's a little bit fitted. But then you wear it with like a cool blazer and jeans and it's like, hot. Look, you're hip, but you're not trying to be too young or kind of still covered up. But then I'm like, I feel like.

Chris Franjola (78:59)

I quiz you on the band.

Heather McDonald (79:00)

Yes. I feel like I'm so scared to be quizzed because I don't want to be that girl that's, like, acting like I'm into this band now.

Chris Franjola (79:05)

Like, Chelsea Handler.

Heather McDonald (79:06)

Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Franjola (79:07)

I saw her wearing a Bauhaus shirt once, and I'm like, she didn't even know who Bow. She's never heard of Bow. House song.

Heather McDonald (79:13)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (79:14)

Yeah. So, yeah, that's.

Heather McDonald (79:16)

There is the circle.

Chris Franjola (79:17)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (79:18)

You know how I had predicted that vaginas would be, like, the new thing just because everyone's getting so naked, Right? And I just saw an ad for Kate Hudson's Fabletics.

Chris Franjola (79:32)

Okay.

Heather McDonald (79:33)

I don't know if she's still part of it. Maybe she's not. And they're, you know, like the stretch pants everyone wears all the time with just big holes cut out on either side of their hips. Oh, and you're supposed to go out like that.

Chris Franjola (79:46)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (79:47)

Yeah.

Chris Franjola (79:48)

Wow. And like, Kanye's girlfriend with the hole.

Heather McDonald (79:51)

Right now I just think, like, everyone's just, like, naked now.

Chris Franjola (79:54)

Well, once again, going back to Vegas. And this is a story I wanted to discuss with you. Nobody's drinking anymore. And that. I don't know if you've seen this. This is the trend mocktails everywhere. Nobody's drinking.

Heather McDonald (80:08)

Even McKenzie says that people aren't drinking. My daughter drinking like they used to. And the bars are having to come up with trivia nights and stuff. Everything just to get people in there. And mocktails are closing at, like, 12 instead of 2.

Chris Franjola (80:20)

Everybody's closing at 12. There's no late night. Late night's gone.

Heather McDonald (80:24)

Okay.

Chris Franjola (80:24)

So the. Just, like, going to the bar, whatever. The days of, you know, that kind of like that show you're watching, like, though that era seems to be over, which is fine. I mean, I'll step aside, but I don't know what's replacing it. Is it holes in your pants? Because now mocktails are like.

Heather McDonald (80:42)

It's vagina cleavage.

Chris Franjola (80:43)

Is that whatever part of your vagina.

Heather McDonald (80:45)

Vagina meets your thigh. You're supposed to show that off now.

Chris Franjola (80:48)

Really? I like. I mean, I'll. At least it's something, you know, where it's not. Because I feel like right now, it's giant pants, mocktails, and it's like, all right, how do you. Where's the fun?

Heather McDonald (81:01)

So with the mocktails, you mean, they're. They're going to the bar, but they're not getting alcohol because. Is that because we're in dry January or whatever that is?

Chris Franjola (81:08)

No, I mean, I think it's beyond that, but it literally. There are now bars in New York City that are mocktail bars. They don't have liquor, and. Yeah, quite a few.

Heather McDonald (81:15)

So then they don't even have to have a liquor license. So then that saves them money. Right?

Chris Franjola (81:19)

Mocktail. I mean, juice, you know.

Heather McDonald (81:22)

Well, I know that. That's the whole thing. Like, I'm kind of like, okay, well, you're still paying, like, $12. Yeah.

Chris Franjola (81:28)

For cranberry juice.

Heather McDonald (81:29)

I mean, I'd rather get, like, a pressed juice.

Chris Franjola (81:31)

Right.

Heather McDonald (81:32)

And also, that's still, like, a lot of calories if you're gonna have that juice.

Chris Franjola (81:36)

I tell you what else I did take him drinking. Cause I don't wanna. I mean, I'm not a crazy drinker, but. But I didn't want to give it up. Once again, you're in Las Vegas for a long time. You pass these places they call Fat Tuesdays.

Heather McDonald (81:48)

You've seen them all over.

Chris Franjola (81:49)

They got them in all casinos.

Heather McDonald (81:50)

What are they? Fat Tuesdays?

Chris Franjola (81:52)

Fat Tuesdays is a place where they just have a line of daiquiris.

Heather McDonald (81:55)

Oh, yeah. And you get the long drink, and you just drink it up and down the thing.

Chris Franjola (81:59)

And you could buy probably a thousand.

Heather McDonald (82:02)

Calories, but who cares?

Chris Franjola (82:05)

Yeah, I got three feet of daiquiri here, bitch. Now let's have some fun.

Heather McDonald (82:09)

It's like the size of your leg.

Chris Franjola (82:11)

So you could literally buy 1 foot, 2 foot, 3 foot, you know, and then get picked from, like, 10 different flavors. And they just.

Heather McDonald (82:18)

Oh, I want to barf right now.

Chris Franjola (82:20)

Big straw. And you just walk down the strip, you know, And I did it. I was like, I'm gonna do it. I'm losing my mind. It's Thursday.

Heather McDonald (82:28)

Did you get a real buzz? I feel like there's probably not that much alcohol in it.

Chris Franjola (82:32)

I did, because I. You know.

Heather McDonald (82:33)

Did you get a brain that. Brain freeze.

Chris Franjola (82:34)

Brain freeze. Get a little brain freeze.

Heather McDonald (82:36)

Oh, my God.

Chris Franjola (82:36)

But three feet of daiquiri I finished.

Heather McDonald (82:38)

What flavor did you get?

Chris Franjola (82:39)

I. A coconutty one. It was nice, like a pina colada, you know.

Heather McDonald (82:43)

Well, of course it is. It's like 10,000 calories.

Chris Franjola (82:47)

The guy's like. And with that one, with the three footer, you know, you get a refill, free refill. I think I'm good with just. I don't need six feet of. But I mean. And then you see people taking them home. You See them in the airport, you know, they got them in their luggage. How are you gonna use it again, honey? I have my three foot daiquiri glass. The company's here.

Heather McDonald (83:10)

And also, I feel like, okay. We went to a restaurant last night to celebrate Brennan's birthday.

Chris Franjola (83:14)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (83:15)

And we had some parents there, you know. And so the waitress comes, and she was really nice, but she was young. And so our friend is like, I'll have this kind of tequila on, you know, make it like a Cadillac whatever margarita. And comes back, and it's like, completely wrong. And so he's like, I'm so sorry, but, like, no, I mean, I don't drink that much. Like, this is what I want. I want the top shelf tequila. I want the da, da, da. And then Peter orders, like, a Cadillac margarita and a mojito comes. And then, like, so at a certain point, I'm like, I also think that the wait. The wait staff that they could get now, like, really don't know what's up at all. So at a certain point, I'm like, I think you guys both need to get up and talk to the actual man who's, like, making the drinks. Because, like, this just isn't gonna work out. And. And it's true. It's like, you don't want to be a dick, but you're like, I want what I want. Like, if I'm going to have the calories and the buzz, I'm trying to be good. But no, there's a whole campaign going on, a smear campaign against alcohol.

Chris Franjola (84:16)

I know. That's what I'm saying.

Heather McDonald (84:18)

I mean, it's like, just does absolutely nothing for you. And, like, there's nothing good about it.

Chris Franjola (84:24)

There's no upside.

Heather McDonald (84:25)

This woman, she goes on Good Morning America.

Chris Franjola (84:29)

Mm.

Heather McDonald (84:30)

And her students surprised her with, you know, because she was like. She was a high school teacher, and they gave her a big thing, Good Morning America, just a few years ago. Right before the pandemic. No, because whatever her thing was, was being dismissed. Like, whatever art or something. Well, then everybody goes on Covid and like, zoom. And that is where then she meets this boy that's a senior in high school, and she's married and was like 35 or something, and, you know, and then started having sex with him.

Chris Franjola (85:05)

Oh.

Heather McDonald (85:06)

And.

Chris Franjola (85:06)

Huh.

Heather McDonald (85:08)

But I guess it was after, you know, that was one good thing during the Zoom years.

Chris Franjola (85:13)

Yeah. You couldn't get.

Heather McDonald (85:14)

You couldn't have sex with your students the minute the zoom lining. The minute the Zoom ending ended now. Yeah, but I mean, like, yeah. She made sure they were all vaccinated. And then she, like, had sex with him 30 times. But I mean, Good morning America, like, all these teachers, it's just, like, insane. It's insanity. What. Tell me, what is going on in your life? What shows are you going to be at next?

Chris Franjola (85:39)

Where I'm going to be now? I'm going to be this. This weekend. This weekend. Friday and Saturday.

Heather McDonald (85:44)

Where?

Chris Franjola (85:45)

I'm at Hyenas in Fort Worth, Texas.

Heather McDonald (85:47)

You love that place where.

Chris Franjola (85:49)

I know. I go there a lot. I love it. Fort Worth, Texas. Hyenas.

Heather McDonald (85:52)

Yes.

Chris Franjola (85:52)

They used to put you in the hotel that John F. Kennedy spent his final night in. That was always pretty exciting. Now they put you in a different hotel, but it was always pretty exciting to see the last. And then he drove to Dallas from there, and that's where it all ended. You ever go see Dealey Plaza where it all went down?

Heather McDonald (86:10)

Speaking of John F. Kennedy. So Robert F. Kennedy, what do we.

Chris Franjola (86:14)

Think that he's gonna run for? He's running for president.

Heather McDonald (86:17)

Is Cheryl Hines gonna be the First Lady?

Chris Franjola (86:19)

No, no chance of that. But, I mean, I feel he's getting some. There is some.

Heather McDonald (86:22)

I'm really sad I lost touch with Cheryl Hines.

Chris Franjola (86:25)

Yeah. Why? Because she could be the first Lady. Yeah. It is interesting that he has some interesting. Whatever.

Heather McDonald (86:32)

Okay, so go back to your dates. So you're gonna be at Hyenas this weekend?

Chris Franjola (86:35)

Hyenas in Fort Worth this weekend? Yeah.

Heather McDonald (86:37)

Yeah. Then where do we go?

Chris Franjola (86:39)

Oh, my God. Then I go.

Heather McDonald (86:40)

You did make a cute little poster. You should have sent it to me.

Chris Franjola (86:42)

I didn't make it. I had somebody make it for me. I can't do that. But they did a nice job. And then I go to Louisville Comedy Club. I haven't been in Louisville in forever. Brand new comedy club in Louisville. Louisville Comedy Club. That's Thursday night, February 8th, onto Comedy Off Broadway in Lexington, Kentucky, the 9th and 10th of February. Then on to Punchline in Philadelphia.

Heather McDonald (87:03)

That's always fun.

Chris Franjola (87:04)

Oh, always. Oxnard Improv right up the street here. DC Improv on. Oh, I got a ton. Franjola Fun has all the dates. Frangola Fun podcast is called cover to Cover. Go listen to that.

Heather McDonald (87:17)

Follow him on Instagram. Funny stuff. And then all the dates are there and everything else. Yes.

Chris Franjola (87:22)

Yeah.

Heather McDonald (87:23)

So good for you, Chris. Thank you so much.

Chris Franjola (87:25)

How's everything going with you?

Heather McDonald (87:26)

Oh, oh, we're just getting started. We're gonna go to lunch and we'll tell you. Everything's great. Like I said, it's about, you know, family.

Chris Franjola (87:38)

Family.

Heather McDonald (87:38)

Family is good.

Chris Franjola (87:39)

Both. I mean, that's it.

Heather McDonald (87:40)

It's good. It's all good.

Chris Franjola (87:42)

Yeah. Who cares about all this other dumb, you know, in the end. In the end, the cicadas are coming. Like, get out of here. Just take your family close and let the cicadas eat everyone else.

Heather McDonald (87:53)

Yeah. You know, Right. Become friends with Lauren Sanchez. Oh, I'd like to be friends with her. She's not answering my DMs, and neither is Cheryl Hines.

Chris Franjola (88:01)

Did you know her? Lauren Sanchez. She's got big.

Heather McDonald (88:04)

I met her once. Once. You know, I met her through the. Through the time.

Chris Franjola (88:07)

It is funny because she was like a local barber.

Heather McDonald (88:09)

She was a local person here.

Chris Franjola (88:11)

It is funny to see the two of them, like running around at, you know, they are of a certain age and they're like, for them, running on big boobs on her and stuff. And they're on all these old jackets or whatever it's called.

Heather McDonald (88:21)

Yeah. Like, they'll live till they're. They'll look like that. It's 80.

Chris Franjola (88:25)

Everybody's crazy. That's what I say. Everybody's insane. And I watch these award shows and I watch him like, you could be rich and whatever. You're still fucking insane. The award shows. These people get up on stage like, has this guy ever spoken in front of people before? I mean, bunch of idiots. All right, bye.

Heather McDonald (88:42)

Bye. Love you, Chris.

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Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.

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Could you be more specific?

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When it's cray venient. Okay, like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter available right down the street at am, pm or a savory.

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Breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at a.m. pM. I'm seeing a pattern here.

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Well yeah, we're talking about what I.

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