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Lots of crazy stuff happened this weekend in the pop culture Bravo world as well as my life and my neighborhood. And it's all good. But first, you know I'm going to remind you one more time because we are probably going to be able to announce that my Vegas show, my live Juicy Scoop with Brandy and Julie is going to probably be sold out in just the next day or so. There are still some tickets, some solo tickets, some tickets together. You can absolutely go to this show by yourself. What is great about the Juicy Scoop community is that they are lovely, they are smart, they are funny, they are cool, they are inviting. So if for some reason you want to go and someone in your group doesn't go, and I say that for all the Bravo Con stuff, truly, you know, that's what makes it so fun, is that we're all into this. So there's that. You go to heathermcdall.net and that's where you also join my Patreon. Okay, let's get into the juice. Now if you don't know, I recently moved to an area west, it's called like Westlake Thousand Oaks. It's just outside of LA county, in between LA county and Santa Barbara to give you a reference. So Meghan Markle, who I'll get into later, lives further towards Santa Barbara. Okay. And it's very suburbia and it's very nice. I love it. Britney Spears has lived there for quite a while. And on Friday night a patron at the restaurant called Retto, which is a very good restaurant. I've been there. I was just there Thursday with a friend. Of course I missed it by one day. Brittany was there. Someone filmed her from the bar as she walked into the ladies room with a girlfriend. She was casually dressed in her signature style, winter hat and boots, summer top and shorts. Actually she had flats on. So she was not wearing boots this time. But she's wearing like you know, a felt fedora. And then this same person or another person witnessed her getting in her car and leaving the restaurant and driving. And they followed her and they showed her from the in driver's side at like a stop sign and then showed her severely swerving up the. This road that I need to take to get to where I live and she needs to get to. To get where she lives. And then apparently that witness also told the Daily Mail and TMZ and everything that then when she got to her place, she and her friend, who they don't know who it is, a female friend, they couldn't figure out the gate code and. But really what was disturbing is her driving. And she absolutely should not have been driving whether she was drinking at the Retto or not. She's a horrible driver. And it kind of reminded me of when the paparazzi would follow her. But now it's just one person that was just happened to be at the same restaurant that has a TikTok account or whatever. And you can't blame them. I mean it's pretty juicy. So nothing's happened because a cop would have to have arrested her at that time for swerving and giving her a dui. So she is fine living in her house. She posted another video of her again, her signature style, felt hat, suede boots and a one piece bathing suit. I sometimes say bathing suit. Bathing suit. Okay. And she writes a song thing. No, this isn't old. This is Recent, because a lot of people think these videos are, like, older, because then when they see her in someone else's video, she doesn't really look the same. But anyway, she's dancing around and there's a lot of crap in the back, and she's like, I'm packing for a trip I'm going for. And it just. The whole thing just doesn't seem real. The final thing that she just posted that Page Six picked up is a photo of the person, or Page Six put it together, of her at the stop sign in the driver's seat with the felt fedora. And she says that this is not her. This is these people who are body doubles. I mean, come on. You know, and it's kind of crazy because, listen, I went down the rabbit hole like many of us do when things happen in the world. And with TikTok and Instagram, there are a lot of people that spend a lot of time putting videos together that can convince you when they take this little bit of film and this little bit that maybe. Oh, my God, was. Did Britney Spears even get married? Was that a body double? Was what. Is this really her Instagram? Who's running it? What's going on? I now can say a few years later, after interviewing Sam and. And meeting her in person, she is still Britney Spears. So all that stuff from the past was not true. She did really have a wedding. All those people, Selena, Paris, Kathy Hilton, Madonna, all those people really did go to the wedding and were really there. That is my opinion. But there were so many interesting conspiracy theories about it. So I get why people then go down other rabbit holes with it. But. So this is her. This was not some body double at the retto who then got in her exact same car and then drove right to her house and was not her. So it's interesting that now she's saying, like, it is a body double. So, yeah, she's not enjoying that. K Fed her ex husband and father of her sons is doing the rounds and selling his book, which seems to be doing well. He shared a video of mine saying like, he has every right to tell his story. However, not heard back from him for coming on Juicy Scoop. He's gone on a couple other popular podcasts, of course, men. Maybe he's just more interested and more comfortable being interviewed by a man. Or maybe he's afraid of me. I don't know. Whatever, he's still welcome to come. But that was some interesting news. Also, there is a very funny ex account called Yolanda Pfister. Obviously a Bravo type account. Looks like there's a cute kid behind it. A man who said about my friend Jill Zarin, oh my God. That surgeon put his foot on the back of Jill Zarin's neck and yanked it. Yanked her so hard she became Heather McDonald. And this is getting a lot of traction. And people sent, multiple people sent it to me. Brandon Julie sent it to me. I love Jill. We are very good friends. She has been open about that. She had a facelift. I think she looks great. Drake does not think that she looks like me in this photo. But so what. Thanks for mentioning me. Who knows if this was a different filter or what, you know, but it's like, yeah, what in the Kris Jenner is happening to a lot of people. A lot of people's faces are changing and if they end up looking like me, welcome to Jigsaw World. Okay. And very funny. Okay, I want to get into you guys know I talked about how there is for the first time ever, a Golden Globe podcast category. And some people when this came out said this is just a money grab and people didn't really understand what that meant. Now Page Six is did a big long article really explaining what it means. So throughout the years of Golden Globes and Academy Awards, but especially Golden Globes, you would see for your consideration, you know, and they put ads in Variety and Hollywood Reporter and we'd put up billboards and then you'd be like, how is this movie nominated for 15 things that not one person I know have seen? And then you'd find out that the budget was, you know, $10 million to do the movie and the marketing was 50 million. And that's all because of these campaigns to win the awards, but to get eyes on it. So then the movie might have a longevity in the post world of like, you know, whatever. It's a classic because it won all these Academy Awards. So it's one way people go. They don't count on it being a big hit at the time. So especially now. So with the podcast, that's what they people were wondering about. So they said These are the 25 eligible podcasts. Of those 25, we will pick whatever 10 and of the 10, those will be the nominees and then one will win it. And they were a lot of the really big names, smart list, Dax Shepard, armchair expert, all that. So this is how I'm going to explain it. This is according to page 6. For $5,000, wannabe non nominees can upload their projects to the Golden Globe screening platform. The Ankler reported. So and Then the wannabe podcast nominees have been approached by Variety now to pay 25000 to become a supporting partner at its podcast podcasting FYC Fest which gets you Golden Globe hopefully on a Variety panel as well as variety coverage, social posts and full page color ad. And it's FYC fest preview out November 11th. They also say for 35,000 that gets you a potential podcast nominee, a custom 50 minute, 15 minute variety moderated conversation about your podcast or if you want to pay 75,000 Variety Creative Impact Award in podcasting that'll get you a Variety feature. So the point is honestly for people who have money, this isn't a bad way to spend your money. I would assume it would be a write off to promote your podcast. I mean it's. But unfortunately it's not everyone could do it because every single housewife on Bravo or just the housewife down the streets that's starting her podcast whose husband like I feel like a lot of like women now are just having like podcast talk shows. It's kind of like what the women did and where their rich husband would support like a boutique or a candle shop or whatever. Now they're like well I'll just have a show, whatever, like Heather McDonald or Juicy Scoop, which is fine, go for it. If you could spend 35,000 and you're like a new podcaster and you get that kind of publicity in your eyes, that's a pretty great deal. I don't know if they. If you have to be part of the eligible group. According to this, Theo Vaughn is like I don't want to do any of that. I don't want to be part of this. I don't want to be seen as someone who's like vying to get this podcasting award. The some of the podcasts are quite political that are in there. So it's all of that. I'm curious to know what will happen but I think most people that are just sitting back are probably like who cares? I like the show that I like. But one but maybe people that have never gotten into podcasting. This might go well. These are the ones I'm going to start listening to so it could be good for that. We'll see. Okay, so I also want to talk about. This is kind of funny. The so with Dax and Kristen getting back to her post so you know she did the thing to my husband. Happy 12th anniversary. Thanks for never killing me. That whole shtick. She has never taken it down and she's never apologized for it. And according to her friends, Page Six reporting, they're saying that she doesn't care and she is not gonna apologize for who she is. That's the route she's taking. She's not gonna address it. She's not gonna take it down. And her friends, some of her friends were like, God, I wish she would. Cause her mouth really gets her in trouble. I think this is like a fake article. I do think this is the way to go with these things from now on is just maybe to not address them if they're not. If it's just a dumb joke that didn't land and you know you're promoting your show. Nobody wants this second season on Netflix, which I have not watched. But I did see some very funny things about how much ad advertising is in the script writing of this show, which we may see more and more, but apparently it's very obvious to people that are watching it where the characters are saying like big, long explanations of the product. Instead of like, can you hand me that coffee? It's like, can you hand me the dunk, The Dunkin Donuts caramel latte that's on special today and only during the holiday. It's like, whatever. I don't know if that's true, but I thought that was funny and I think it's funny that people catch on to it. But getting back to their. Her post about her husband not killing her. The good news is if she ever did kind of wonder if her husband would kill her. Dax Shepard now he definitely won't. How do we know that's why. Maybe that is why she put it out there as insurance. Maybe that's why she's not taking it down or saying it was a joke. Maybe there's some real going on and she's like, just in case, you know, this isn't going to look good if, if you ever really did get mad at me, there's no way you're getting out of it now because this will end like Heather McDonald wants. I will have my really good Dateline episode with my video. Oh, a juicy scripper made me a lovely Dateline montage of my opening for when I go missing. I'll be sharing that on my instagram @heather McDonald because it's very clever. So, yeah, that's the good news. If they ever got pissed at. If he ever got to the point of it, he's certainly not going to do it now. But I guess she's. I guess they've shared in their life and on their podcast a lot about how they have really wicked fights to the point where she said she blacked out. And people said they interpreted that. Is that just her mind? It was just like, ugh, like so much arguing. Not like he, you know, put his hands on her and she blacked out. Just like fighting so bad that she blacked out. And people do like the honesty when you've been married that long. It's very few people that, you know have a perfect relationship and don't argue. But. But then also there's this something I feel in Hollywood where it's like, it's kind of your identity that you're like this couple that you know has been lasting longer than others. And so I think it's all of that. Speaking of my past loves, there's a follow up. You recall I was on Thursday's show, I talked about how I was on a show called Studs and I went on a date with this guy and we won. It was a game show and his name was Ronnie Sugar. And I'm like, where is he today? Well, many of you found him for me. And he's still cute, very successful. And he owns Raw Sugar, which is a product I buy at Target. It's like shampoos, conditioners, and also has put all this money into this other city. So good for him. Like, good for him. And I also want to say I had another date that turned out to be extremely successful. I went out with this guy. And then years later, when I was at the early years of Chelsea lately, he was on Million Dollar Matchmaker. And I was like, watching it with Peter and I'm like, why does this guy's face, like, look familiar? Like, what is it? And then I realized I went out with him and at the time he was like telling me he was getting into the vitamin business. And then on Million Dollar Pet, I was thinking, yeah, like this guy's ever gonna really have any money. And then I'm watching Million Dollar Matchmaker and there he is as the millionaire with, like, some big vitamin company. And I was like, oh, okay. There's been times where my picker has been off. I also went out to audition to be one of the hosts of American Idol when it was Ryan Seacrest and this other comedian whose name I can't remember. But then when they just narrowed it down then. But after like one or two years, they just made it Ryan. And then that comedian, like, never really got anything going besides probably just being a stand up. Anyway, I went to that audition and I was like, what's this show about? And it was at Laugh Factory, and they're like, you know, some of the people are going to be great and some are not. And you're going to be talking and encouraging them. So we're going to do, like, an improv, and we want to get, like, a guy and a girl and Ryan Seacrest. You know, I think Ryan Seacrest had already been chosen, so you were going to be his partner. And I remember thinking, this is the stupidest idea for a show. This is never going to last. So, yeah, I'm not always right about my predictions. I think they've gotten better now, but I'm not always right about it anyway, so there you go. Meghan Markle. I was went down a rabbit hole of this guy analyzing her body language. And I always think that's kind of interesting. And I don't really know if I totally believe it, but she was doing a bunch of interviews, and it was. Some people felt in the body language, it was lying. Other people, it's deflecting. It could just be really good media training that she trained herself. And they asked about, as ever, third season, and she's like, oh, well, there's so many different aspects to look at the business, you know, with as ever, it started out with a wonderful, delightful, charming jam. And there was such an incredible response. We sold out immediately, which is not easy and also makes it quite difficult. But what I've discovered is my learns. And in learns, I realized that in the learns that I've had, people need to want something to touch. That's tactical. They. And maybe there's a. She does, like, a lot of swallowing, and maybe there's a possibility of having a partnership. And I would rather that it be in small retail spaces that make sense. And so basically, people are like, yeah, Target, Walmart, are not asking you to have a deal because no one in their right mind would turn down a bigger thing like that, you know, so. And the jam is $18. I don't know anybody who's gotten it. I don't know if they're really making more or if it matters. I heard it wasn't even made in Montecito or California. I don't know what's true, and I don't care to whatever. So the show, which is second season, which we realized was filmed all in one chunk of time and split in half selling Sunset does that. A lot of shows have done that economically, that makes sense. So she. She said, well, we're doing a holiday special because, as you know, I taught gift wrapping and I do calligraphy. And da, da, da, da. And she's always talking about, you know, and when somebody, when people come over to don't say, hi, can I make you a cup of tea? Work it out. That you just have a bunch of cups, coffee cups there that they can pour their own tea. You know what it's about making life simpler for you and making, even though you look lovely, open the door with your apron on and not wearing any shoes. Right. And that shows that you are welcoming into your. I don't think she has anyone come to her house at all. I don't think she's having dinner parties. I don't think people are coming over to her house unless it's the fake house down the road and filming the show, which is fine. Okay. Because these tips are like the dumbest things I've ever heard anyway. I think then she says, you know, in going forward with the TV show, as ever, we might explore doing recipes that might only take two or three minutes. And what would that look like? Well, that looks like Instagram. That looks like a TikTok video. You have 4 million Instagram followers. Your Instagram is doing well. That is it. You are going to be like the rest of us. You're going to be just getting little deals, doing, never turning down anything. And that's what you wanted. You wanted to be a Kardashian. That's what you're going to be. And you thought it was going to do better with the Netflix and the podcasting deals and all that. They realize they are not getting their money and then they say, you have a first look deal. Let me explain what a first look deal is. It sounds better than it is. It's basically what you tell the person, hey, whatever show idea you have, you have to pitch it to us first. Don't you go around Missy to Bravo or anywhere else because we think you're so talented. You have to pitch to us first. And then that looks good. It looks like you're constantly producing and, and that you're beholden to this network because they think you're so talented. But the thing is, they can say no to every single one. And then they're like, isn't this great? If we say no, you now you're not tied to us because they want you to go away. And then you can sell it to someone else. And that's what she was also saying. Like, and then we'll see, you know, what other projects and creative venues and what that home may look like, which could be different. And then of course, of course, there's the global aspect of the products and the brands and what's really, what do you want to see in your home from us when we are so lucky that you've invited us in your so listen, I watched a little video of her going to New York with the husband. It looked like every other cute millennial couple that the wife's an influencer and the guy's cute enough to play along. That's it. That's it. I don't think anyone's going to really care. And I do predict that, that at one point Harry and William will re establish some type of relationship outside of the wives. Just like something. That's what I think. But this is it. You guys just get ready for the Instagrams and the tick tocks because the show is going to end. Everyone's talking about having that effortless, glowy skin look. Well, not many can achieve it, but you can now with Jones Road Beauty, I absolutely love their beauty balm. You don't need brushes, you don't need a sponge. You use your fingers and it absolutely just gives you this glowy, healthy look. I do it when I'm going around my club or for a walk, pickleball, just to have a little something more going on when I don't need a full face of makeup and, and actually people are like, what are you doing to your skin? 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Find out why Nutrafol is the best selling hair growth supplement brand@nutrafol.com spelled n u t r a f o l.com promo code juicy scoop. That's nutrafol.com promo code juicy Scoop. All right you guys. Pop star Katy Perry is in fact dating Justin Trudeau of Canada's prime minister. The whole thing, he's good looking, age appropriate for her. And so I saw this on TMZ and I said, I predict a Lifetime movie about a pop star and a political figure is in the works based on them. Kind of like what happened with the TV movie or whatever it was with Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. I don't think this is as juicy of a pairing because I just don't think that she's as popular and people think she's kind of odd and that she's always like trying to get homes from old people that don't want to sell them and like old nuns and old vets and whatever. I mean, it's one time. If one time you try to get a house from an old person that didn't want to sell, that's fine. But the fact that there were multiples anyway, they're a couple, they're dating, it's real and good for her, you know. And then somebody wrote in the comments that his father, who was also a political figure in Canada, and I'm sorry, I don't know all of Canadian history politics, that he had dated Kim Cattrall and other American entertaining stars. So that's kind of really juicy. I always thought that was interesting about JFK Jr that at one time he dated Madonna and this actress Daryl Hannah who was very popular in a great, great movie called Splash. And he, and you know, he wanted to be according to books and things that I've read. He actually really was into acting and wanted to major in acting in college, but his mother was like, no, you know, you're gonna be a lawyer. And it took him three times to pass the bar. And it was, you know, he liked that entertainment. And I always wondered, I always thought, oh, isn't that interesting? Because his dad, jfk, the president, dated Marilyn Monroe while he was married. He had affairs with Marilyn Monroe. That is a known big rumor. And then the brother dated her, too, and then mysteriously, she OD'd. Whatever. I'm just saying it's very interesting how history kind of like repeats itself with generations. So let's see. Let's see how long they stay together. You know, she likes being with famous people. She was with Orlando Bloom, so she's not looking for a normie. Okay, let's see. Lori Laughlin, according to Page Six, had to quiz dancers at her husband's favorite strip club, Massimo's favorite strip club, in desperate attempt to save the marriage. I mean, how awful. How awful. I feel like these stories now she wants out there. She wants these stories out there. She wants people to know what a nightmare he was. That's why she gave John Stamos, I'm sure the go ahead. I'm sure you don't still go on someone else's podcast and talk about your friend's horrible divorce at her horrible ex husband unless she was like, go for it, John Stamos. Spill the beans about what a horrible, narcissistic Dickie is. So now to add this, that he was also going to strip clubs. Ew. So, yeah, that's out there. Okay, little update on our girl Wendy from Real Housewives of Potomac. This is Wendy and Happy Eddie, who are facing numerous charges for a fraud, you know, lying about your. What was stolen in your house to get insurance money. And they did a huge investigation and they, you know, arrested them both, according to tmz. Says. According to court docs obtained by tmz, the. Oh, no. But Us Weekly story, the Real Housewives of Potomac star wants all charges against her and husband Eddie dropped, arguing there are alleged defects in the charging papers and the search and seizure was unlawful. Well, yeah. What are you going to do? Unless you're going to just forget bold. You're going to have to try to say that the cops, you know, didn't do what was right and they didn't collect the evidence. Right. And their rights were not protected. And this was. They were targeted because of who they are. Whatever. There's also rumors of will she turn on her husband and say it was all him that made me do it. This is just so interesting. It's such a Teresa Giudice talk about history repeating themselves itself. And yeah, it's very hard for marriage. I just talked about Lori Laughlin and Massimo. They were married. They both were convicted of doing the college scandal. They stayed together and then they did it. They stayed. They both did their prison time and now they're getting divorced. Same thing with Teresa and Joe Giudice. They were together, they both did their time and then they got divorced. And so that is my prediction for these two and whether they decide I'm going to take all the blame or not. I don't know many spouses that would be like, yeah, how about I just go to prison for five years and you go have fun shopping and being on housewives and screwing other men? I don't know. I don't think there's that many selfless people, but who knows? And there's emails going back and forth. Why they were emailing each other, I don't know, saying, can we. Eddie going, you know what? How much more can we put on the insurance claim? So we max out the 400amount, whatever. Very interesting. Her co star, who is one of the most beautiful women I think I've ever seen. Her name is Stacy and this is her second year on the show of Potomac. She is just stunning. And she was on Watch Happens Live last night and she said, well, Wendy is a good friend of mine and when I saw her, she was very emotional and I'm just going to be there for her. Which a lot of housewives really like fans. A lot of fans like that she's being loyal to a friend that she's not throwing her under the bus. And. And you know, she's being there for her. What the truth is, I don't know. Now, again, this is a kind of crime that I don't think necessarily makes people like, get so angry at the housewife because they're like, yeah, it's insurance fraud. No children were hit in the road by you being drunk. Nobody was murdered. Yeah, you cheated on some money and you acted like an asshole that you're richer than you were. But unlike Jen Shaw, who literally took money out of elderly people's savings and trick them into thinking that they could have a business that was very cruel. Like, this is one of those where I feel like people are like, yeah, I could maybe forgive this dumb. So anyway, now she was in hot water, this beautiful Stacy girl, because last year she announced she was Going through a divorce with her husband. But she had this friend named TJ that she knew from the QVC hosting TV acting world. And he's her boyfriend, but even though he's like 50, he's very Christian and therefore they don't have sex. And it was very weird that he kept wanting to make sure that was out on the show. He then went out and said, she hired me to be her boyfriend and, and I'm entitled to half of her salary. And the girls are saying they met some friend of TJ's who said, oh no, she had a contract with him that he was going to get half of her salary. Then on one of these bloggers, when we say real housewife bloggers, it is my now understanding it's most like mostly unanimous. Sorry, not unanimous. Anonymous. Anonymous Instagram accounts where the person isn't sharing their personal life, their face or their name and. But they get out information and these accounts can be very popular and I'm sure they're profitable for the person running them to an extent. So there's. So all of a sudden, one of those posted the alleged contract between Stacy and tj. A lot of the comments were, I call bullshit in it. It said that by him participating that he would get half of her Real Housewives of Potomac salary for its entirety. I don't know who the fuck would ever write such a dumb thing if I, you know, if you were going to have like your, your housekeeper or your assistant appear on the show and you wanted to be classy about it, you might say, hey, every time that we're filming, I'm going to give you an extra $500 just from me because you're agreeing to be on camera and whatever. I know that there's some housewives that have done that with people being that it's a boyfriend. That's interesting. And then that it was fake. They were never a couple. She said they were. She said we were. And I never agreed to pay them. Who knows? I don't know if he's really suing her. I'm not sure. But, you know, it's interesting that someone's like, oh no, this is a fake contract. It's not real. Who would ever agree to pay this person for the rest of your life for as long as. And it wouldn't hold up. It was like a dumb one. Piece of paper, piece of paper. Anyway, she since has gotten back with the old husband even though they were divorced. And there you go. So that's kind of juicy. I just think she's Stunning. Okay, there was. Let's get into Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. This week, they premiered the first episode of the Real Housewives Wife Swap with Angie, who's the Greek girl. And people are really enjoying Wife Swap. If you never watched it in the past, it was a very popular show where they would just take, you know, two women that ran their houses differently and swapped them. So one would be, you know, run a cattle farm, and the other one would be a hippie, dippy, vegan feeding person. And then they would have to watch each other's kids for like a week. And it was pretty juicy back then. And there were some real disturbing things 15 years ago that they would show where people would be like, that's some horrible parenting. Where is that kid today? That's really up. So anyway, when I was at Chelsea lately, I had a couple calls and I was on being looked at to do Wife Swap. I don't. Can't remember if it was celebrity or just they were thinking about doing celebrity because I was like, a partial celebrity. And I was like, oh, my God, this would be so fun. But what would it mean is if I swapped with someone, they wanted that girl to also really have my life and go and be at Chelsea lately and write on the show and, like, appear on the show. So without even asking, I'm like, there's no way they're gonna do that. And now I look back and I'm like, I should have asked, because maybe they would have actually. They might have said okay to that. But anyway, the mistake I made was I didn't make my parenting, like, extreme enough. And that's what they want. They want either you to be the most OCD strict mom or, you know, very, very rich. In this case, the housewives are all appeared rich and then the most, like, where it would be the most awkward difference. And when I was being interviewed for it, I was like, I was always pretty moderate about being strict. You know, like, they did their homework, they went to Catholic school. But it wasn't like I was like, you're going to mass every day at 6:00am Like, I needed. If I wanted to do that, like, I had to do that. Or I think they came to me thinking, oh, you know who was also up for it was Carney Wilson. Anyway, I know that they were thinking that maybe because I'm a comedian stuff, I would be like a flippity dippity. I don't know, mom that, like, didn't give a. And was drinking and had comedians smoking cigars in my House at night while my kids ran around, you know, in their school uniform. I don't know what they thought or they thought I was going to be super strict, but in doing it. So afterwards, I was like, okay, I told my agent, I go, if they're ever interested in me again, I'll. I know how to lie about it now. Well, you can't lie, you know, so anyway, so that's what it is. And a lot of it is produced, and a lot of it, you know, they. They make sure that, like, these things happen. But I think it's a pretty enjoyable show. And supposedly now they are going to share the Wendy one. They're just. They just pushed it to the back of the. Of the four episodes. We'll also see Emily on there from real houses of O.C. now, let's just talk about Real Housewives of O.C. they're in Amsterdam. And listen, I know a lot of people like to smoke weed and eat weed gummies and do the cannabis thing and do the mushrooms and all of that. And I was saka. Whatever that is where you go and drink some weird thing and, like, have a hallucination. Hallucination, okay, that's not my jam. You know, I like to just enjoy my cocktails, whatever. So they go to Amsterdam, which back in the day was like, oh, my God, you got to go to Amsterdam because there's a red light district where, you know, you can see a bunch of hookers in a window. And you can also have weed when weed wasn't legal. So I don't know why they went now, but whatever. They go and they go to the Tulip, Go to see the Tulips or whatever, and they all are out, you know, taking drugs. It's legal. It's fine. I just think it's kind of weird. Am I the only one that thinks it's weird that we're just watching Housewives, like, episodes of them just, like, constantly taking drugs and that. That. I mean, I guess it's okay because in the past, they just got them all so drunk before and probably, you know, with the Vanderpump kids, it's not about the pasta. Whatever. We know from Jax now that he admits, you know, he was using cocaine for 20 years. We know from other cast members that they would take Adderall so that they could drink and have fun and stay up while they filmed and, you know, be alert and kind of remember what they said. But I don't know, like, I'm just like, why is Gina saying, oh, you know, I. I'M sober. And I hold. I. I like to hold, you know, Shannon accountable for her drinking. Yeah, she still drinks. And she's doing weed with all of you guys and magic mushrooms. And I don't know, I guess I'm just too much of a comedian to think, like, this isn't that funny. Like, it's like, lazy. It's like, okay, so you're high. All right. I don't know. Like, why don't you just, like. I guess they're just desperate for what to do with this show. Whatever. So. So they're there. And then we know next episode is the last episode, and that's when all the comes out about Gretchers. And Tamara has let the girls know that here are some screen grabs of other people's posts on Instagram or Twitter or whatever in which it shows that her name is following it and maybe and liked it. And we're gonna see how she explains it. We're gonna see what happens in her defense at the reunion. And this is, you know, a lesson to everybody. Like, watch out. You know, like, watch out what you're doing on social media. But also, these things can be doctored. And that is what they are claiming, that it wasn't what she did. So it's gonna. It's gonna get kind of weird and ugly, and we'll see. But, you know, right now, these bloggers are now sharing all of it. Now, how did they get all of it? Every single one? Well, what the housewives do is they collect the dirt on their castmate. I think some of them hire private detectives, like in Salt Lake City, and then they hold on to it, and then they maybe even they have an anonymous account, and they DM one of these quote unquote bloggers, and they say, oh, my God, look, my Castmate was arrested 10 years ago for fraud, like with Bronwyn on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Do with it what you will. Or they say, please share this because tomorrow we're going to a luncheon. And then I can show up and go, did you see the press? It's not the press. It's not in tmz. It's not in Page Six. It's with these bloggers. And then therefore, since it's out there and it's printed, the producers and editors can show it on the screen, and that's why they're talking about it. Also, they don't look like a horrible asshole that they found it, that they brought it up, and it's like their hands are clean because it's was sent to this person who then shared it. We know from Teresa of Real Housewives of New Jersey that she had a relationship with Melissa's old nose for years, allegedly, who then shared negative stuff about the castmates while they were filming. So there it is. That's what the show is. It's not as fun as it was. Shanna Bedor is the constantly, like, putting on Spanx and trying to dance and being all awkward. And I have pointed that out. Watch the old. The early seasons, she was not this, like, weird shenanigans. She had a door, but people like it. And maybe that's the only funny thing. And maybe you find her funnier when she's high on mushrooms, too. So, you know, they're just doing their best, all of them. And listen, I like watching it. I like talking about it. So who am I to bitch and complain when someone's not naturally funny, no matter how many classes they take at the Groundlings. Okay, Kim Zolciak's boyfriend is this guy, and it's all getting revealed. And because his wife is divorcing him and she's doing, like, a forensic accounting, she's trying to find out how much. How many gifts he gave Kim Zolciak. His. His monthly income has come into play because they're in this, you know, financial fight. And he makes, like, $130,000 a month. So. Thank you, Big Papa. Like, she found herself another big papa. But this big papa looks so much like Croy, it's kind of weird. He's like, you know, kind of like a strawberry blonde and about the same age and very interesting. But you know, what? Good for her for, you know, I guess, snagging a guy. Hopefully she wasn't the impetus for them getting divorced, but it might. It might have definitely played a role. Definitely. Seems like it was happening before they were separated. And, you know, this way she won't have to borrow money from her daughters anymore or just take it and not give it back. So, you know, who knows? But, like, you know, she needs an income, whether it comes from here or. I mean, she will always be welcome back on Real Housewives of Atlanta. So that's what she should do. This girl, Lily Allen is a singer. And I saw this post. Woman who allegedly had an affair with Lily Allen's estranged husband David Harbour is revealed. And it's just this girl. And she was. He's an actor on Stranger Things and he was doing a movie and she was the costume designer. And by day two, they were getting it on. Well, Apparently, Lily and her husband had an open marriage, and now she's writing a song about it. So now the costume designer is like, yeah, I'm the other woman, whatever, who cares? And then people are like, well, wait a minute. Why? You know, how do you cheap on cheat on each other when you have an open marriage? Well, I think anything, like swingers or open marriage, there's like, weird rules, like, I need to know or I need to join in, or I need to approve her, or it can only last three times. I don't know what these people do with their weird open marriages. Why are you getting married at all? Like, why are you doing this? But now we know who she is, and she's whatever. You know, some people are like, oh, my God, why do guys always cheat with someone, like, less attractive than the actual wife? Why do they cheat down? Because they're cheaters and it's there and it's about their ego. So then we get to Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll is now a Slim Jim. And you guys, I don't know if you know this, but I don't write these jokes, okay? They just come to me. Jelly Roll is really enjoying his GLP ones, and he has dropped, like 200 pounds. And he is always talking how in love he is with his wife, Bunny, who has a very popular podcast. She's extremely attractive, too. She was a former call girl sex worker, whatever. And they met and, like a happy one, like a hooker with a particle. Happy. Like, she talks about it. And they met and I guess for a while they had an open marriage, too. I wasn't aware, but whatever. Maybe at this time they didn't because he went on a podcast, not his wife's, and shared the worst time in his life was when he cheated on Bunny and had an affair. And he said, I had an affair. So I don't think it was like a one time, like, after a show, while he was eating donuts, somebody came and, like, gave him a bj. I don't think it was that. I think it was definitely more. More involved. But, you know, he's very Christian and everyone loves his story of, you know, being in prison and writing music and, like, all the shit that he went through. So he fell in love with Bunny. They got married, like, right away, and he. So I don't know when this was because they've been together a while now. He said in this interview, he said, well, you know, when I was doing cocaine, it was because I was hanging out with guys doing cocaine when I was drinking too much. It's because I was hanging out with guys that were drinking too much. And when I was cheating, I was hanging out with guys that, you know, were comfortable cheating on their women or whatever. And I kept these guys around because I was proud to say, oh, this has been my boy for 15 years or whatever. I'm not going to dump him now that I'm rich and famous. And now he realizes, no, I don't want to be around with anybody that, you know, would be a bad influence on me. This is the thing about men, okay, what the fuck? All right, what are you talking. You're gonna blame, you're like 45, you're gonna blame your bad behavior on your friends and, you know, oh, I had to stay at the club for four hours after the golf round ended because the guys made me. They made, they made me. What are you talking about? Like, you're old. Like what? Dearest Doe, I don't know, a woman. Now what's interesting is I've had friends that said that their husbands would be like, I don't like you hanging out with that girl because she's going through divorce or she's whatever, a little wild. And they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? Because this is the thing, we don't get influenced by our girlfriends in that way. When we're like mothers and in our 30s and 40s and beyond. If our friend is, you know, getting some dick on the side, chances are she's not even telling us about it. Chances are she's sneaking around. And, and if she is, I'm not going to be like, oh my God, does he have a friend? Can I also him? I've been dying to find a girlfriend who's cheating on her husband so we can just go and cheat together in Vegas. No, it doesn't happen. But these men, it's like the loyalty thing. So they what, they're never going to dump their friends. And then they're also can then blame the friends for influencing them doing things that they really didn't want to do. Well, if that's the case, then that, then now as a spouse, do you really. Now you do kind of need to analyze your husband's friends. Like, are they, are they bad influence? Could they influence your 55 year old husband to, you know, drink a little too much? And you're like, I, can I talk to his, can I talk to your friend's wife? We are not having this. We are having a parent. Change your coverage. Like, what is going on? So, you know, also I think it's always like it was the worst time in my life. I'm sure I did not listen to whole interview. I'm sure he always speaks so highly of her. Maybe she didn't care. Maybe she was accepting of it because they were in this open relationship. But it did bother him more than it bothered her. I don't know, you know, they. They seem like they're super solid. Whatever weird relationship or different relationship someone has is. Is their deal. But I don't know, you know, I mean, I wonder when someone you know is getting all skinny and cute too. Like, she was always the cute one and he's getting cuter and cuter and I don't know. I don't know this. It'll be interesting to see, but they're everyone's favorite couple that came from the wrong side of the tracks and are now probably close to being, well, definitely a few hundred million dollars. So we'll see what happens. This episode is brought to you by Marshalls, where you never have to compromise between quality and price. The buyers of Marshalls hustle hard working to bring you great deals on brand name and designer pieces because Marshalls believes everyone deserves access to the good stuff. 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And then she put in some face tattoos that she got from jelly Roll and she put them on her face and Kanye wasn't happy about it. He went on his platform or whatever and said like, Kim, why are you torturing me with the tick tock stuff? And Kim's like, leave me alone. Like, this is what she does. And I'm not that parent that's gonna like not let her express herself. The tats weren't real, the, you know, the nothing. None of this was permanent. But it is a pretty scary, tough look. And, and she does have like the, the septum piercing. I don't know if that's real, but that's one piercing that if you do have you take out, there's like no mark of it because it's like inside your nostrils. I always wondered about when someone had a piercing in their nose. If they took it out, would it just look like they had like one big giant blackhead pore? But I'm not someone who has piercings. So anyway, I think with Kim, you know, she just had a birthday and dressing sexier than ever. That's what she likes. That's her vibe. I think she knows that if she was to try to tell her 12 year old daughter what to wear, what not to wear. You can't put in blue hair extensions. You can't put blue eye contacts. First of all, they have all these makeup people there. They have a whole room dedicated to glam and like 10 people just waiting to do whatever you want. So if she's like, oh, I want to try little face tattoos, sure, why not? I want to try a girl. Sure. I want to put blue hair on my head. No problem. I want you to do my makeup, I want you to put fake eyelashes. Like they can do that. It's like, you know, there's some houses have like a, a toy room, they've got a makeup room. That's what she's doing and that's what she's defending herself on. The show now is out the new episode and Kim is finally opening up about what a nightmare Kanye is, which we all knew. I said for years, could anything be worse than to have to co parent with this? Well now, just like Lori Laughlin, she wants the world to know he's a fucking awful nightmare. He doesn't. He barely sees the kids and. But she'll say my ex, like in an interview. She won't say his name. She's doing everything right. She's almost a lawyer. She still has to pass the bar. How this girl has time to do this. She is on the new show All's Fair and you know, in the, in the Keeping up show, she's crying about how like she doesn't get to see her kids as much, but she doesn't want to turn anything down. It's the same thing with Emily at Real Housewives of oc. She said, I just, I just found Out. My son Luke can't read, and he's 10. And people were like, what? And, you know, I know there's more to it, and I do appreciate her being open. And part of her struggle is, like, she has to go on this Amsterdam trip and wear a dress with cutouts and not cover up her bruises and strut around and try to be funny and take shrooms or whatever, and so she can't help the little boy read. And some people would say, quit the show then. Yeah, easier said than done. You know, this is her career, too. And if she's only gone for five days, it's not going to make a difference in, you know, if she stayed home every day with this child. We don't know she's, you know, sharing her journey. But, you know, this is the thing. Some people, you know, it's what works for you. But the argument is, well, some people do have to do a. A second shift to pay the mortgage or pay the rent, and these people don't. So. But then it's their identity in their life, and they enjoy doing it. And this show called All's Fair with Ryan Murphy, about an all female law firm dealing with divorces, sounds pretty juicy. And the cast is ridiculous. Like, it's Glenn Close and Naomi Watts and Niecy Nash and Sarah Paulson, and I think it's going to be a big hit. And, you know, these opportunities just, you know, and you want to move into a different direction. They come at one time, but there you go. That's what the show is. And they talk about selling the house. The. The. Which is the last house I went to the Christmas party at. You know, I used to go to the Christmas party. It's been 10 years since I've gone and. And someone showed an old video of me doing an episode of the show in which I was like, isn't it interesting that Kim is living with you now? When she was pregnant with. Was she pregnant with north or Saint? I think she was pregnant with Saint. She was pregnant with Saint, and they were redoing their house. And so Kanye, north, and Kim pregnant. Kim were all living at that house. And I was. They wanted to film something with Kim, Chris's girlfriends at the time. And I said, oh, isn't it interesting that, like, they were all ripping on Hidden Hills and. And not wanting to live here and screaming that, like, oh, nobody wants done ever wants to live in Hidden Hills, Mom. Because Chloe and Lamar bought a house in Tarzana, which is like 15 minutes from the Hidden Hills. And, yeah, Heather Was right. Everybody now lives in Hidden Hills. Kim bought another property just right next door to hers. And the article was like, why does Kim need another 7 million dollar tear down down the street? Because she can. Because she can. Because she wants her kids to be able to live just like Chris did. Live in their own house but close by. That is every parent's dream. It is genius. And from the moment I saw that, that was Chris's mo. Let's get the kids, let's do this show together so I always get to see them. Let's get everybody living in the same area. It is genius. So the show is happening. Chris has a new face. She's is thin. People are mistaking her for Kim. And Chloe hasn't had sex in three years. So it's the show. People are talking about it again, so good for them. Oh, and then Kourtney Kardashian was like, so I'm doing a campaign for Lemmy vitamins and I think I want an iconic person to talk about it who owns her sexuality. So I asked the iconic Julia Fox to be on it. And she's like, but I have to ask him because Julia Fox dated her ex, Kanye, but I feel like they never say his name now. But anyway, she's like, fine, who cares? People are like, this is so rude. I can't believe she'd asked Julia Fox. Oh, please. Kim could give a shit. She and Julia said they never even fucked. She said like, she's already talked about how like he was weird and. And they never even had sex and whatever. So she's probably like, yeah, by having Julia on there, we have a fun storyline between like sisters fighting and it gets your promotion going. What do I care? Go for it. Go put weird Julia Fox in a tub of, you know, lemme gummies. Nelly Frittata is stepping away from the stage for the foreseeable future and people truly believe it's because she was so bullied online. She recently performed and she was a lot curvier and the comments were just awful. And they think that that is why she's like, I'm never performing again, you people. Oh my God, this is why this shit is so sad. Why would you ever let these losers that are would die to look like you who are writing mean shit get to you like this. I only can talk because at one time I let it get to me too. So now I really need to say, oh my God, what a bummer. She's absolutely stunning. I love her music. I hope this is just a little blip And I hope when she comes back, she does some way to handle her social media where she doesn't have to see it, but that it still can benefit her music. People just need to go back to the olden days, like I said with Chris, where it's like, you just go perform. Your PR person goes, oh, could you sign these few autographs? Oh, and here's three fan letters that came into the studio of how much they love you. And then you read those and you're like, I can go to sleep now. I had a great concert. And that's it. That's it. That's what people need to do. Meanwhile, this girl, Cheryl Burke, who. Her face has completely changed. I mean, she looks kind of like Kris Jenner in here. People are like, what is going on? She said, I've had nothing done. She looks completely different. She's. Yes, she's older. I don't know if it's the bangs. I don't know if it's plastic surgery. I don't know if she. It's a lot of weight loss. But she is coming back as a judge to Dancing with the Stars. She used to be one of the dancers. Now she's a judge, which is a great job for her. And maybe all the press she got about her weird, different face helped her get the job. You know, who knows? All press is good press. So one more thing I forgot to talk about with was Bronwyn on Real House of Salt Lake City. You guys, I have never seen a example of a real life couple that would make you want to be a gold digger less. Okay, clearly we know she was a single mom. She married this guy who was rich, who was older, and she gets to wear all these weird outfits and live in Salt Lake City, which I don't think sounds that great. The best part about her life is that she gets to be on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and have some fun, because her husband is absolutely horrible. If you were ever thinking of going a sugar baby route, you need to watch this. If your daughter is thinking, this is a cool thing and I just want to, you know, marry an older guy and shop. Do not. The saying is, a woman who marries for money has never worked harder for that dollar or something like that. It is. It is awful. He is the most crotchety thing, the most unfun person. Like, I don't. I mean, has anyone ever. Has he ever made someone laugh? Has he ever laughed? He absolutely hates her being on the show, but he's agreeing to do it. So she's like, hey, Todd, today we're going to meet at this ice cream shop. And of course, she has to wear a weird outfit that's, like, ice cream inspired. It's, like, pink and, like, a Prada headband that's probably $400. And she gets her ice cream, and she's like, so, Todd, you know how much I love ice cream. And remember, don't eat my cherry, because that's my favorite thing to eat. In the past, you've eaten it, and it is my favorite thing to have, and I like to have it at the end. So, Todd, you'd be very proud of me. I went to a luncheon, and I kept my composure with Lisa at. And at that point, he grabbed her cherry. She wasn't even two bites in of her Sunday. And he ate it. And she's like, I literally just said 3:30 seconds ago not to eat my cherry. And he goes, oh, now, if he had gone, I know. I was just with you. Can we get two more cherries? Then I would be like, oh, my God. Todd's kind of fun. No, I mean, I just read an article that said a woman decided to divorce her husband after 25 years because he ate the last piece of cake. I can relate to that, too. I. I mean, I'm like, if I have half of a Chinese chicken salad saved for me, and I come home and that's my lunch, and Peter just opened the fridge and took it. It's happened in the past, but now, in order to stay married, I make sure, I say, hey, just want you to know, that salad, that's my lunch. Don't fuck with it. Don't take the little bit of salad dressing they have left and dip a piece of bread in it. That's my salad dressing for my salad. I'm thinking about this Chinese chicken salad. I'm driving on the 101, ready to have that Chinese chicken salad. Don't you dare fucking take it. So I think a lot of people were like, whoa. And then Lisa Barlow says, I have nothing to do with this. Nothing. But I find it very strange that Bronwyn was arrested and has a. Like, some fraud or some weird thing that's now been sealed. Did Todd, her husband, able to see? Was he able to seal whatever this crime was? It's very convenient because she says, it's been sealed and. And legally, I can't talk about what happened, but it happened 10 years ago. We don't know if it was real identity theft, if it was a snafu, if it was a Mistake. If it was a desperate single mom who hadn't met Todd yet and she did something. She worked at a bank. Did she do something wrong that was just because she didn't have the proper training? We don't know. But she has to go meet him in another fancy outfit. And he's like. And she's like, I know this is really bad because this is bad for you and your reputation that this thing in my history has come out. And I'm so sorry, Todd, because I know it's very disturbing to you. And it's. And he's like, huh? And everybody is just like. And then she has the mean mother. Like, I just want to see her run. Run through the tulips and yes, maybe take a mushroom and have some fun. I don't know. But her watching her life is so depressing and sad of a housewife. There's nothing fun about it. She's surrounded by people that don't enjoy her, including her daughter, who I'm sure she loves, but the daughter doesn't enjoy her either. So there we go. Now for a very juicy topic that only my son can help explain. I'm sure many of you girls are like, what is this poker scandal? Is this an NBA gambling scandal? How are the two related? What is going on? And I'm here with Drake, who's familiar with sports gambling and dumb men. Drake, what is this deal? How are these people in trouble? Explain the basketball part first.
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B
Well, first of all, thank you for having me on your show. Okay.
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This is my son, Drake, everyone. And he's wearing the newest juicy scoop hat.
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B
That's right.
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A
That you can get.
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B
Hopefully, we will have these in Vegas.
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A
Yes.
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To give out to people, but yes. Okay. Yes. So to explain the gambling thing, what it. What's your question?
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Basically, what did the person do wrong that was an NBA player? That is so horrible of a scandal.
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All right, well, first of all, there's, like, about 30 people that were arrested, but the NBA players. So there's two NBA players, and one currently is playing for the Hornets, but right now he's not. They're taking a break because they're investigating this. And the other guy only played for one year, and he didn't make very much money for NBA standards. I think it was, like two and a half million dollars.
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Okay.
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The other guy that's playing is making like 25 million a year about.
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And that's why this is so insane, because that one is the one that lied and up the game by saying, oh, coach, take me out. I Hurt my ankle, didn't.
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I think it's like in 2023, he basically texted his friends and said. He said, like, I'm gonna. I'm bet all my unders because I'm going to be taken out. I'm going to be out of the game early.
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And that means you're not just betting that the Hornets are going to beat the Lakers. You're saying, I think the score is going to be in this range. And you get more like the. The bet is sweeter because you got the score closer to what it was. Correct?
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B
No, the bet, like, no. Basic. No. So what. What happened is basically also it's like, very stupid because he only, like, they only won around or they bet like $200,000. But, you know, this guy makes $250,000 a game, and he's risking all that just to, like, basically to help his friends out.
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So that's the other thing. As you know, men, what I've learned from today's episode, are extremely more loyal and better friends to their male friends than women. And that's the biggest difference, because there's no way in hell a woman would do this for her dumb friend. Like, once she got rich, tried to do something criminal so that her friend could enjoy some extra cash. Like, men do this. Like, they bring their boys around, they hire them, they let them come around and cheat around them and do drugs, whatever. Women are like that. I want nothing to do with her, and I'm going to ruin her life. While we were on Housewives together. So as lovely as a strong male friendship is a better bond than sometimes a female friendship. When you're an idiot, you're an idiot. Correct?
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B
Yeah. So basically, like, so there's the rest happen because there's the sports betting stuff, but also there's poker stuff. And the poker stuff is this NBA coach, mainly, he was hosting these poker games and they have these things called sharks and whales. And a shark player is basically a professional poker player. And a whale would be like an NBA player that's not very good at poker, but he has a lot of money to lose. So they would tell the sharks, hey, we got a couple whales coming to this game. Why don't you come play in it? And then they would come play in it. But what was happening at the poker games is that it was a. Basically a rigged game. So, you know, the decks were like, stacked against them.
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A
They stacked against the dumb whales?
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B
No, against the sharks. So. Oh, so the whales. The whales were in on it. So they weren't even really gambling. And it would basically be like they'd invite one or two people and then everyone else in there was in on it. So they all knew they were all going to split the profit. But they had shuffling machines and they had card readers, so they were able to see their cards. And in poker, it doesn't even matter how good or bad you are. If you could see someone else's cards, you're basically going to guaranteed win.
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A
I have a question. So this is like at someone's house. So is it illegal to have a poker party where money is, is done? Is that illegal? Does it have to be at a casino? So it's legal?
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B
It's not illegal. Where it becomes illegal is where they do this thing called a rake. So they take a little bit of money from the pot and they basically have that as profit. But you know, you could have poker games. That's not illegal. Yeah.
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A
So then, so this is just a scandal then? Yeah, the poker part is just a scandal. No one's going to prison for the poker part.
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B
No, they are because they, they stole like basically $7 million over like five years.
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A
So who's investigating it? The poker police?
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B
No, like the FBI. Oh, like, yeah, it's that one guy that's.
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A
But then stuff and some. But so someone that went. They could be implicated and now they have to defend themselves. And we're like, I was just invited.
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B
Well, they know, they already like arrested all these people that they know were involved in it. So like some people provided the cheating devices. Some people were just there to make the money.
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A
So when is this Netflix doc going to happen, do you think?
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B
I don't think it'll ever happen.
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A
I don't juicy enough.
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B
Correct. Yeah.
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A
Like nobody died.
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B
Yeah. And you know, I think people like they, they try to do these basically cheating on gambling all the time. You know, this isn't the first time that NBA players have been caught for this. This has been happening for 20 years since sports betting started.
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A
And you were saying the difference with the, the Dodger player, what's his name?
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B
Shohei Ohtani.
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A
Yeah. Is that his thing was that his best friend slash interpreter was betting with money that was stolen from him, but none of those bets were on baseball or any games that he was playing in.
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B
Yeah. So, you know, at least with show I like. Yeah, we're supposed to think that he wasn't betting, but he probably was because, I mean, there's like millions of dollars on it. But the thing is with him is at least he was not betting like against himself. Where you can really, you know, influence the decision of how the outcome is. He was betting on, like, NBA or WNBA or soccer games, ping pong.
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A
And he. He was making the bets, so.
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B
Well, no, technically, the interpreter was making the bets.
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A
And the interpreter said, I was just doing it for myself, stealing money from him. He wasn't making any bets because. And people don't totally believe that, right?
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B
Well, yeah, because if he. If they said Shohei did it, he wouldn't be allowed to play.
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A
Right. And he is a really good player. So we don't want that to happen in Los Angeles. And then also to make it all about Real Housewives of oc, this girl Jen is engaged to a guy named Ryan. And Ryan, one of Ryan's very dear friends, was the booker of the interpreter.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And that guy is going away for a couple years now, and he is like an OC dad of five with a pretty wife, and he does all these podcasts and he's like an inspirational speaker and, you know, a life coach. He's gonna. He can life coach you from prison. Why? Okay, so is it illegal to be a booker? I'm so confused. Is it illegal?
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B
Yes, it is, because you're basically, like, acting like a casino.
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A
Okay. And so anyway, Ryan was just his friend. And Ryan and Jen, they love to go to the Cayman Islands a lot. And so it was from there that people thought maybe there was something more connection going on between the booker and Ryan. But it appears nothing. Was they just, like, going to the Cayman Islands and wearing bikinis?
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B
Yeah, I mean, I. I don't know what goes on the Cayman Islands, but I would assume they're just on vacation, right?
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A
Yeah, but, you know, who knows? So. Well, thank you for explaining that. That scandal. And. Yeah, you know, I think the closest thing I could say this to be, if we're going to compare it to women, is when someone's having, like a Botox party back in the day, and they would bring some unlicensed person to, like, fill your ass or your face. And then that person was sent sick and maybe they were scraping off the top. And so, like, I'm having a Botox party and everybody comes and they pay 500 for the Botox and I get a hundred off of each person and this chick doesn't know what she's doing. And then that's what it's like.
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B
I. Yeah, I don't know anything about that.
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A
Anyway, Drake, thank you for explaining. Another weird thing I didn't understand, but that had juicy elements. So this was. Now you can talk about it. Now you can understand it. Now you can explain it to your husband. If for some reason he doesn't understand. Oh wait, I have to tell you. Well, I'll tell you. We'll save it for the next show. Okay everybody, remember you go to heather McDonald.net get those LA those last few tickets in Vegas. Make sure you join my Patreon because there's so much extra juice on there. And of course tomorrow it will be a new episode of Juicy Crimes. Please subscribe to juicy crimes on YouTube and wherever you listen to this to podcast there is a link below here where you can subscribe to that one. If you haven't left a review for Juicy Scoop or Juicy Crimes, please do. That also helps and it's a great episode tomorrow with my sister Shannon McDonald Goldstein about a murder in Palm Springs. Thank you. It's okay not to be perfect with finances. Experian is your big financial friend and here to help. Did you know you can get matched with credit cards on the app? Some cards are labeled no Ding Decline, which means if you're not approved, they won't hurt your credit scores. Download the Experian app for free today. Applying for no Ding decline cards won't hurt your credit score scores. If you aren't initially approved, initial approval will result in a hard inquiry which may impact your credit scores. Experian that's the sound of James adding.
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