#348 - Kurt Metzger on Mind-Reading Headphones, Charlie Kirk & DC’s Missing “Osiris”

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Julian Dorey Podcast

Host: Julian Dorey
Guest: Kurt Metzger
Episode: #348 - Kurt Metzger on Mind-Reading Headphones, Charlie Kirk & DC’s Missing “Osiris”
Date: October 24, 2025

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Overview

In this wide-ranging and unpredictable episode, comedian and commentator Kurt Metzger joins Julian Dorey for a marathon conversation that careens through conspiracy lore, culture war flashpoints, government operations, mind control programs, technocracy, the dark history of entertainment, and current geopolitical intrigue. The episode’s overarching theme is the exposure of hidden programming and manipulation—whether through historical government projects like MKUltra and Monarch, mind-shaping media, or emerging technological tools like mind-reading headphones. Woven throughout is a thread of irreverence and skepticism toward authority, the news, and official narratives.

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Key Topics & Highlights

1. Mind Control: From MKUltra to Monarch (00:00–21:10; 62:53–68:23)

• Metzger’s interest in “Monarch” programming: The discussion kicks off with Metzger referencing the infamous MKUltra program and its less-discussed offshoot, Monarch—now officially acknowledged in declassified NSA archives (17:03).
• “Human nature is not good or bad, it’s programmability.” (A, 00:32 & 52:01) Metzger stresses how belief, perception, and even memory are highly malleable through culture, authority, trauma, and repetition.
• Revelations about documented mind control: Julian reads from recent articles on the NSA/CIA’s actual experiments in mind control, underlining how credible these programs are in government history (17:59).
• The “chosen ones” phenomenon: Monarch targeted multi-generational abuse survivors (“chosen ones,” e.g., celebrities like Britney, Kanye), employing trauma for memory partitioning and control (29:11–31:10, 128:22).
• Soft versions of mass programming: Metaphors extend to everything from SSRIs, prescription drug ads, mask mandates, and social media as forms of conditioning.
• Notable quote:
  “Mind control sounds crazy, but it’s not. Once you notice, you can’t unsee it.” (A, 00:00, 62:59, 52:01)

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2. The Culture of Child Stardom, Hollywood, and Abusive Power (02:06–08:48)

• Brooke Shields as a symbol: Metzger discusses 1970s-80s media’s sexualization/exploitation of child actors (e.g., exposing articles about a 12-year-old Shields, family complicity) (03:05–05:06).
• Hollywood’s generational cycle: The recurring pattern of “stage mom” exploitation from Judy Garland to Britney Spears, as well as analogies to contemporary fame (06:26–08:39).
• Virginal branding of celebrities: The push from media to define, control, and sell the sexuality of young female stars (07:52–08:52).

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3. How Society Forgets: The News Cycle and “Feeling Fatigue” (35:24–39:06; 61:00–62:53)

• The public’s short memory is repeatedly critiqued regarding elite scandals, e.g., Jeffrey Epstein: “People just move on to the next. I don’t know what the fuck everyone is doing. I never got over being told not to do your own research.” (A, 35:49; also 62:53)
• Epstein and the news black hole: The group discusses how damning stories are sanitized and forgotten in mere days, by design (92:57–93:09).

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4. The Perils and Power of Psyops, Soft Power, and Social Engineering (54:17–62:53; 98:00–104:35)

• Connecting the dots:
  • The same logic behind government black ops, social engineering, and entertainment marketing.
  • Beatles, Taylor Swift, and K-pop as “natural” phenomena—then studied, replicated, and weaponized for mass manipulation.
• Mind-reading headphones and predictive ads (80:05–84:55): Metzger and Dorey get into WEF’s early showcases of “brain data surveillance,” which are becoming real. “So you see, they did the plan while you were talking.” (A, 85:22)

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5. SSRIs, Pharmaceuticals, and Public Health as Control

• The normalization of psychotropic medication is dissected, including mention of bizarre lawsuits (e.g., French man’s sexual compulsions) and pharma’s role in mass shootings (24:50–26:58).
• “School shooter pills”—pills as a means of emotional flattening, societal control, and suppression of critical instinct (24:49–25:57). “First of all, why would they be advertising prescription medication on TV?” (A, 27:22)

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6. Government Atrocities and Public Apathy

• Discussion of admitted incidents like St. Louis cadmium spraying and Tuskegee experiment, and why people persist in trusting institutions afterward (33:55–35:24; 57:11–58:27).
• “If you knew a person that did all this shit, you wouldn’t just trust them. But people just do. That’s the mind control part.” (A, 35:06)

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7. Deep State, Secret Societies, and Who’s Really in Charge? (68:23–70:05; 117:15–122:45)

• Reference to Tragedy & Hope, Cecil Rhodes, and the evolutionary goals of Anglo-American power (“Rhodes Scholarships, concentration camps, British Empire as soft power”) (69:59–72:18).
• Skull & Bones, Illuminati as “brands” for networking/taking over institutions (119:32–120:48). “There’s eight classifications above [the president’s] level.” (A, 93:32) “The brands don’t mean anything. You just try to get into fraternal groups like a virus and take them over.” (A, 120:48)

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8. False Dichotomies and Manufactured Divisions (67:52–68:03; 164:26)

• Metzger lampoons left/right binary politics and the way identities are constructed to channel dissent (67:52–68:23; 164:26). “My gender is a spectrum, but my politics are either/or—how did that happen?” (A, 68:02)

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9. Tech Dystopia: Surveillance, AI, and Social Media

• Paranoid humor about Alexa, AI reading minds, and phones knowing our thoughts and intentions “before we do” (80:05–86:12). “Yo, have you had it read your mind yet? I didn’t even… but a lot of people have had that happen.” (A, 80:22)
• Google, ChatGPT, AI search as censors of crucial knowledge (“Google AI will not tell you nothing”). (89:04–89:10)

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10. Psychedelia, Drug Testing, and Super Soldiers

• Tales of military super-soldier programs, chemical mind alteration—“imagine peaking on a Benadryl trip for two weeks straight; that’s what Jacob’s Ladder was about” (A, 101:09–102:06).
• Recurring theme of traumatizing/fragmenting children to control: “So, in Monarch, they want generationally traumatized people who could dissociate” (29:26).

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11. Celebrities, Cults, and Memory Holes (49:26–50:12; 93:02–93:09)

• Taylor Swift Amnesia Syndrome: “Some attendees report memory gaps about the concert. That feels a little MKUltra to me.” (00:20, 49:26)
• “Everything you love is a psyop”—the model is set when genuine culture becomes a template for manipulation (103:29–103:52).

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12. Epstein Case, Israel, and Intelligence

• Lewis Black’s story about visiting Epstein, seeing Israeli Defense Ministry diagrams, and the clear intelligence connection (123:08–142:00). *Julian: “It is so obvious who he worked for, and the fact that people then are like, ‘Oh, we just can’t talk…’ Like, what the fuck, dude?” (B, 125:56)
• “The Defense Ministry of Israel was just here, and we were drawing up some plays.”* (B, 124:21)

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Notable Quotes

• “Mind control sounds crazy, but it’s not. Once you notice, you can’t unsee it.” (A, 00:00; 62:59)
• “Human nature is not good or bad, it’s programmability.” (A, 00:32; 52:01)
• “People just move on to the next. I never got over being told not to do your own research.” (A, 35:49)
• “Every awful thing you could imagine is what I think about that fucker H.W. Bush.” (A, 118:41)
• Julian: “Where do you get news from? Honestly?” (B, 61:00) Kurt: “Who. Do you know anybody that thinks like they get news?” (A, 61:01)
• “So, the ultimate secret of the 33rd degree... A hole is a hole.” (A, 134:19)
• “There's eight classifications above [the president's] level.” (A, 93:32)

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Essential Timestamps & Segments

| Timestamp | Key Topic | |-----------|-----------| | 00:00–02:00 | Monarch/MKUltra and mind control in media/culture | | 03:05–05:05 | Child exploitation in media/Brooke Shields | | 17:03–17:47 | NSA archives confirm Monarch's reality | | 24:49–26:57 | Lawsuit over SSRIs and pharma influence | | 29:11–31:10 | Monarch’s “chosen ones”, dissociation, celebrity programming | | 35:24–35:49 | Why do people still trust government after atrocities? | | 54:17–62:53 | Petraeus meets ISIS/Al Qaeda head; government “rebranding” of enemy | | 68:23–70:04 | Anglo-American elite power structure (“Tragedy & Hope”) | | 80:05–85:22 | WEF mind-reading headphones, brain-data future | | 93:02–93:09 | Epstein news cycle memory hole | | 119:32–120:48 | Illuminati, Skull & Bones, Ciroc as declining “brands” | | 164:26–166:06 | Division, control, and manufactured consent | | 172:25–172:45 | Finale on “crazy” conspiracy ideas and humor |

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Memorable Moments

• Live-Reacting to WEF’s “Brain Surveillance” Project: The pair pull up a 2018 WEF presentation on “brain transparency and productivity monitoring,” react in real time, and joke about the coming surveillance state (80:47–85:22).
• Petraeus Interview with ISIS/Al Qaeda Leader: Metzger walks through a surreal clip where U.S. General Petraeus interviews an ex-Al Qaeda/ISIS leader, highlighting the hypocrisy and confusion in war narratives (54:17–56:13).
• Debate on Taylor Swift, K-pop, and Manufactured Fandom: Ridicule of celebrity “amnesia syndrome” and the seamless blending of psyop/marketing with entertainment spectacle (49:26–50:25).
• Comedy’s Relationship to Truth: Metzger repeatedly leans into dark humor to expose truth, suggesting that comedians are often the first to spot what’s wrong in society—if they’re willing to look.
• The CIA, Cartels, and Venezuela: Revisiting U.S. regime change, propaganda, and the hidden forces driving modern conflicts (43:01–47:44).

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Tone & Style

• The episode is fast, irreverent, and darkly funny, with frequent asides, tangents, and “meta” commentary. Metzger uses crass language and biting satire to undercut serious topics, while Dorey keeps pace, prompting the conversation with clarifying questions or personal observations. Conspiracy theory is less a literal belief than a lens for seeing patterns in history, power, and culture.

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Concluding Sentiment

The conversation ultimately lands on a note of weary cynicism and encouragement to question authority:

“You don’t have to do shit except maybe don’t be a liar. If you know something’s involved in something bad, why would you just be cool with that?” (A, 37:37)

Both Julian and Kurt stress:

• The need for memory, skepticism, and independent research.
• That real change is unlikely, but seeing through manipulation is its own small victory.
• And, critically, “The more you notice, the less you can ever unsee.” (A, recurring)

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Quick Reference:

• Mind control exists—now technologically enabled.
• Society is programmed through media, pharma, and culture.
• History’s darkest institutions remain embedded in today’s elite circles.
• Public attention and outrage are engineered…and fleeting.
• All the official storylines—political or pop cultural—hide far more than they reveal.

Transcript

[A]

I think mind control sounds crazy to people, but it's not. But then once you start to notice it, you can't unsee it. When I first heard of Monarch, by the way, it's part of Fuck MK Ultra and all that other. If you watch David Miscavige, he was raising as a kid and he was a rising star. Why do you think Kanye's like that? Why you think Britney's like that? They told him they were Chosen Ones actors. You ever hear of Taylor Swift?

[B]

Amnesia syndrome, where some attendees report memory gaps about the concert? That feels a little MK Ultra to me.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Mic control. You control Mask.

[B]

What do you think makes someone at a government agency start a program like that?

[A]

I'll break it down for you. The whole thing. Human nature is not good or bad. It's programmability. That's exactly what it is. I mean, they take it to quite an extreme, but you see General Petraeus sit down with the head of. As you know, Mr. President, I spent.

[B]

Over 37 years in the US army.

[A]

And I was a soldier, not a diplomat. So I hope you'll forgive me. That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

[B]

It's nuts.

[A]

Yo, he's isis. He's a founding ISIS member. And Al Qaeda. All the greats, yo. Imagine you got your blown off in Iraq or Afghanistan and you see this? What do you think a psyop is?

[B]

I told you. You're here to teach me today, Kirk.

[A]

Well, good, I'm here then.

[B]

Hey, guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five star review. They're both a huge, huge help. Thank you. All right, we got Pooh Shiesty or Kurt Metzger in here. I'm not.

[A]

Thanks. Yeah, Kir. That's right, Kurt Meister. Thank you.

[B]

Free Shiesty, by the way. He's out. I don't know if you heard that.

[A]

Pooh Shiesty's out. He's out, but nobody listens to him no more.

[B]

Listen, I'm pretty sure he was in his room.

[A]

He has to do new murders if he wants me to listen.

[B]

I don't think he murdered nobody.

[A]

Well, then I'll never listen to him again.

[B]

He's got the Christoph Waltz pipe here as well. The Hanselanda pipe.

[A]

There's nothing goes good with better with a nice shiesty Hans Launder pipe. That's a fact.

[B]

I don't know where this is going to go today, but I just want to make it clear this is your bus and you're driving, so we'll go where you want.

[A]

But you just.

[B]

You just airdropped deep something before we got on air here. And I walked back in from the bathroom. What the am I looking at? We got it. Thief.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Brook Shields.

[B]

So this is. No, this isn't just Brook. This is Brook Shields when she was 13.

[A]

12 is, I believe, 12 even. 12 even, like snaggle poisoning.

[B]

This is a 12. 1978 article.

[A]

Yeah. Wait, but do you. Okay. I want to give you this one though. Dude. This is the one. Yet another one I think is a good one to go here.

[B]

Is this New York Magazine?

[A]

No, no, the one that I was just trying to send was New York Magazine.

[B]

What is this one? Which.

[A]

He just found this just now.

[B]

Oh, Dave, you just found this.

[A]

Can you take an airdrop?

[B]

Culture. Culture Magazine. Here, give me your phone. I'll give it to Thief from Culture Magazine, 1978. It literally says in there, this is. It says it's a 13 year old brook Shields. And in the byline.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right below a picture of her and Woody Allen, which you. And you can't.

[A]

Oh, is that Woody Allen?

[B]

That's Woody Allen. It says Brook Shields is a sultry mix of All American Virgin and.

[A]

Well, I. I mean, I. I think New York and magazine. It's not New York magazine, is it?

[B]

Whoever it is, this is.

[A]

You tell me. You look at her next to Woody Allen and you tell me she's not a sultry virgin. Jesus Christ.

[B]

Bro, this is starting dark.

[A]

It was the seventies, man.

[B]

Oh, yeah, the seventies.

[A]

People were dolphins and.

[B]

Okay, they were Dolphins in the 70s.

[A]

That was. I would say that's probably a peak.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, look, I'm more worried about a dolphin trying to. A human. Those. You ever seen those things?

[A]

Okay, I know the. I know that that's. You know, it's a common myth that it's like the. It's mostly dolphin on human. But it's not. That's a lie.

[B]

You think humans are out fucking dolphins?

[A]

I mean, they've written books about it. Look, actually, pace yourself before you get into it. Wet goddess, remember? Wet goddess.

[B]

Who is. What's that guy's name again?

[A]

Who. Not. I'm not even talking about him. You're talking about John.

[B]

There is a dude who actually.

[A]

Yeah. And Peter the dolphin and. But okay, look, this is what. So this is from my friend Andy Hunt's your control All History Channel. So he has all this stuff that's all from like the 70s and you know, 50s and 60s that you kind of knew, but you didn't really know about. And I don't know if it's a. Has a huge Hustler collection from back in the day, but it's all stuff. So much stuff is, like, reported in Hustler by Larry Flint in the fucking. It's wild. Okay? And so he's got great videos on their dude. And so the one he has. He has some good, like, weird celebrity background things. And. And this. This is one of them, because I would say so. Look at this. This is from New York magazine. Let's see.

[B]

Brooke Shields again. Now age 12 instead of 13. It says, Meet Terry and Brooke Shields. Brooke is 12. She poses nude. Terry is her mother. She thinks it's swell. Prison.

[A]

What? No. And if you watch Brooke Shields in. I've seen video, like, clips of, like, her own, like, podcast, I think, where it's her daughter and the kid, and she's trying to explain it to the kids. And, like, it's almost like she's not aware how fucked up it's because she's desensitized to it.

[B]

You know, she's so young. This is, like, her normal.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She was like. She was like a. She was like a child.

[A]

Like, yo, who could wear this this long?

[B]

I was wondering how long it was gonna take.

[A]

I'm too sweaty of a guy.

[B]

It's. It's too much. But.

[A]

Oh, my God, that was uncomfortable. Who would wear that?

[B]

I don't listen. The rappers like it, and people that want to kidnap you like it.

[A]

Kurt.

[B]

It's useful. It hides your identity.

[A]

Yeah, the COVID mat. There's like. There's two kinds of people that still wear Covid masks. Crazy people and criminals.

[B]

That's pretty much it.

[A]

People trying to beat facial recognition, which I'm not comfortable with. I'm not comfortable how they caught that kid, you know, the mangioni kid with eyebrow fucking.

[B]

That's what they.

[A]

Profiling software. Oh, I didn't know that they caught him based off his eyebrows, and I'm not comfortable with that.

[B]

It's getting a little dystopian out here, right?

[A]

Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I guess it's not as bad as 1978 with. In the Brook Shields household.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah. So this is like an early Kardashian mom kind of.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, that goes back a long way to, like, Judy Garland, where your mom pimps you out to the studio.

[B]

Absolutely crazy, man. It's just like, if you take your.

[A]

Kids to auditions, just, you know, you trafficked your children. Honestly, why would you ever do that?

[B]

When you see it now? There's so much evidence out there that like, if you're taking your kid to do this in Hollywood or whatever, it's kind of your fault at this point. You know what I mean?

[A]

Well, I mean the. I would say a parent putting you in that deliberately. There's some kind of crazy like Munchausen leaving my kid out to. You know. If you watch a Michael Jackson eight hour fucking documentary, which I didn't watch that. Oh my God. How was that? I only saw part one because it. You. You get the gist of it in part one, put it that way. And the mom, as soon as you see the guy's mom, you're like, oh, this happened. The mom's like, what? She doesn't even know what the problem is. Like we. They go to a hotel, I'd stay down the hall and they would tim waltz it in the other.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

I don't know if you notice like the, the great Disney system of kids that were.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

So they. I mean, I had forgotten about Brooke Shields, but I remember when I was young. What do you remember, Todd? That she was a. A virgin. Do you remember that? No. She's a big virgin. That was a big thing. She's a virgin. When I was, when I was young, I'd see on TV. I remember is the 80s and making a big deal about it.

[B]

So when she was like 20 or something like that.

[A]

Yeah. So I don't even remember, but it's weird. So this is why I didn't know about this because like I remember her and. But Britney Spears, same deal. They're like, is she still over? You ever go back and look how it's exactly as weird as South Park?

[B]

Oh yeah, South Park.

[A]

Are you a virgin? Do you still have your chair? It's like you're in a. Like a Chinese Dynasty movie. Yeah. Where they gotta like check your vagina with a robin's egg to make sure you're like some crazy like. And at the time, I don't know that south park summed it up. And I don't think they were like, you know, keyed into some esoteric thing. I think it's just a thing you could notice if you're trying to be funny about it. But this is probably one of the earliest examples of it.

[B]

Yeah, I think South Park's just, you know, Trey Stone and Matt Parker. Or is it Matt Parker and I always forget Trey Stone and Matt Parker. Matt Parker and Trey Stone.

[A]

Do I have the name Matt Tresker. I believe his name is Matt Tresker.

[B]

Either way, the two of them, they took things that were always exaggerations, but they documented literally as stuff was happening. So, like, since the beginning, it's been.

[A]

Something's in the One guy eats Big Macs and slap jams it out in a week. That's how they had a documentary about it. And his boy from back in the day gets him going, which is like a valuable thing if you got somebody get you going the right way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, I mean, they. The documentary is pretty funny. I don't know why they made it. Like, Bill Hader is an intimate member from the. Of the. Of the writing team. Do you remember. Do you ever see the south park documentary?

[B]

I don't think I have.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I've seen, like, clips of that on Social, but I've never sat down watch it. What was Bill Hader's involvement?

[A]

I don't know to this day. I think he was guest. It was like the fish dicks thing.

[B]

Oh, got it.

[A]

Maybe that I. I didn't understand it.

[B]

Videos of them, like, recording it, and they're just pissing themselves the whole time, like, trying not to laugh, but they're actually, like, getting it out. It's hilarious.

[A]

Oh, and then they had fucking. I see. I haven't. I'm not getting goddamn Paramount to watch all the new ones when they come out. Dude, I got too many streamings.

[B]

Yeah, there's. I can't keep track of them now.

[A]

The balls to even think that I should have to do that. Can I buy the episode? No. You need a membership to our whole catalog.

[B]

Right. At some point here, like, there's gonna. There has to be some sort of giant sucking sound, and a bunch of these things just fall off the face because the streaming wars, you don't even know. Someone's like, oh, have you seen this show? I'm like, which network? And then you got to go buy it for 25 bucks a month. I'm like, I'm never going to fucking see that.

[A]

Yeah. They need to unite the networks into one country, the way our TV networks are.

[B]

Yeah. Now, do you think guys like Woody Allen, who is. Because obviously, like, he was in the picture on that first article we were.

[A]

Looking at with that sultry virgin whore. Put it back on. What it said. Why? Got to get the wording right.

[B]

I can't even believe that's real.

[A]

Okay. Just watching a kid group. Dude. If you look at Shirley Temple back in the day, she was in a thing called Baby burlesque.

[B]

Weird, bro.

[A]

Yeah. And so there's a lot of shit where, you know, looking back now, I remember what I wrote this as a joke into somebody's thing. Might have been a Jim Norton. Anyway, I had a girlfriend that was like millennial. And so I'm 48. Okay. I'm finally old enough to serve in Ukraine. So thank you for having me on before I go. But I was dating a girl millennial, who had not watched all the 80s movies that you would just see if you're a Gen X. Right, Right. So we're watching Revenge of the Nerds. She's like, genuinely horrified by Revenge of the Nerds.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You remember that jocks didn't like this nerds because the one nerd raped his girlfriend in a fun house.

[B]

And it's just right there in the script.

[A]

And also revenge porned her at a pie. But also installed spy cameras like the nsa.

[B]

Not just the nsa, dude.

[A]

Revenge of the Nerds is like a metaphor for MK Monarch.

[B]

I feel the Monarch thing. You sent me, like, 47 loot.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Who's that guy you had on? Who is that fucking absolute dipshit that goes. And people saying these presidents did these things and they didn't. Oh, well, that satisfies me, young fella. You fucking dipshit. Well, that sounds like. Oh, my case closed.

[B]

I went, I don't even know who you're talking about.

[A]

I just watched a clip of it. Yo, you. I would read Transformation of America. That Kathy o' Brien book.

[B]

Transformation of it. Can we.

[A]

Of America? Yeah. I wish I started with that in my fucking UFO shit. I wish I started with that book. You know why? Because once you hear that, you realize the whole thing's laid out in there pretty well.

[B]

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[A]

The people that know shit are the help, right? So what are prostitutes? Forced or. Or willing to help? The sexual help. So they know all that. She get all the upstairs, downstairs information from them and. Yeah, no, I believe every single thing she says about George H.W. bush.

[B]

What does she say about George H.W. bush?

[A]

He's a psychopath.

[B]

Yeah, but specifically.

[A]

Oh, I got on audible, the book. So here's what people don't get. Because Jimmy, you know, I do Jimmy Dore show. Right. So we had. He had John Kiriakou on. Who's very interested. You had John Kiriakou on.

[B]

I've had him on four times.

[A]

So John. The first time he came on and I didn't know he had. Worked for Sasha Cohen too, you know, I think on the dictator.

[B]

Yeah, we work with him on the dictator. Or maybe it was Bruno. Actually, I think it was Bruno.

[A]

It was Bruno. It might have been both of them, but Bruno for sure because he's got the story about when they were trying to kill Sasha and because he's dressed like a. Anyway, so we were talking. We were doing that. Who's that guy, Ralph? That. The. The second trump shooter.

[B]

Oh, the dude that just tried to kill himself in court with the pen.

[A]

Yes. That's called omega programming, by the way. If you.

[B]

Omega programming?

[A]

Yeah, you got. They have them broken down, by the way.

[B]

John told you this? Kiriakou?

[A]

No, no, I'm. I just know this And I was talking about it when John was on.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

John knows about all kinds of crazy shit, but he doesn't now. A lot of these people too. They're like workaholic. Like they're trained to not think about this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The big picture. Do you know what I mean? Even if they up close, seen it, what it is, you'd be shocked at what people don't know or look into. And also, they probably never would through not trying part of a thing because you're just not going to do it because it's a lot to deal with. You're already dealing with the shit that you know you did.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And now like, you got to earn a living after you're on the bad side of your intel. Can you imagine? Like, I would be very nervous if I was after. If I went to jail because I.

[B]

See no evil, speak no evil kind of thing. Like it doesn't involve me. So I'm not gonna look at that.

[A]

I don't think John's like that. He didn't come off like that to me. But. But he didn't know about Monarch. But here's something I didn't know about Monarch.

[B]

What is Monarch? For people out there who don't know.

[A]

It's part of MK Ultra and all that other shit, but it's been disclosed. NSA archives. I have a link to it.

[B]

Can we pull that up here?

[A]

Wait, I'll give you a link to it. So I just found this out. Where's my phone? Oh, that's right. We had this Dr. Juliet who was in it.

[B]

In it?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So a bunch of people were. Dude, hundreds of people were in that. That, that, like victims. I would bet you anything that guy, that Ralph guy is part of that. The two different colored hair and the weird. He's never in jail. Like, he's real. The Charles Manson jail thing where like.

[B]

Yeah, I know the Charles Manson story.

[A]

Who's Ralph Ryan? Ryan Ralph, the guy that shot.

[B]

Oh, the guy that shot Trump. Right. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You think he was in monarch?

[A]

I think 100% just based on what I know about when I first heard of Monarch, by the way. I guess it was like a 2010 or 11, I guess I didn't really think about it or. Or care about it like that. I was like, oh. And. And then I read it and I'm like, this sounds like this is like a. Just a metaphor for society or something. Which it is. But also it's literally. They did that. And so the NSA archives in 2024 put it out and I. I go, wait, it's in there by name. So, yeah. Artichoke. All of them. They. So we know it exists. We already know it exists. 100%.

[B]

I would say voluntarily put that out.

[A]

Well, did you hear about I'm into it and I didn't hear about it.

[B]

Yeah, let me.

[A]

So that's how it works.

[B]

Pull it up. Do you have a Joe? Is that it?

[A]

No, that's an article about it.

[B]

That's an article about it. What does the title say? Documents reveal just how crazy the CIA's MK Ultra mind control program really was. This is from the daily caller in 2024. It looks like a new collection of over 1200 documents. You scroll down a little bit deep. Sorry. Detailing the Central Intelligence Agency's infamous mind control program, MK Ultra was published by the NSA and ProQuest on Monday. The collection was announced 50 years after Seymour Hersh's New York Times investigation illuminated the program's abuses. According to the archive, it was also published 70 years after the US pharmaceutical manufacturer Eli Lilly & Co. Became the CIA's primary source of the psychoactive. Psychoactive drug LSD, the archive added. The MK Ultra project was conducted in the 1950s, and most of the original records were destroyed by CIA Director Richard Helms and headed the technical services staff of CIA's chemical division. Sydney got LE. Who's a real rabbit hole. According to the archive, Gottlieb would eventually serve as a director of the agency's technical services.

[A]

Yo, it goes so much wilder Then.

[B]

Give me the Wilder Kurt Metzgers. Why you're here.

[A]

Oh, well, so I first became aware of it from my friend Emma's podcast because she has these people on and by the way, lots of people, you know, because Gate was like. I was in that. I don't. I don't remember anything bad about it or anything.

[B]

Gate.

[A]

Yeah. Gifted and talented gifting talented education. It was called Or Gate.

[B]

Oh, oh, all right.

[A]

Gateway.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, got it.

[A]

Okay. It was called. It was called Gateway in one. I don't know if when we live in North Carolina, it was called Gateway or if it was in Jersey, but one was given towns and was called Gateway. And it just got like smart classes. I know I was in it at some point. I don't remember anything else about it good or bad other than the pink drink they people would talk about, which is fluoride. It was just fluoride.

[B]

Oh, that's nice. Yeah.

[A]

I don't know if you're supposed to just drink floor. I don't know why you drink it.

[B]

But they were telling you as a kid you had to put it on your teeth.

[A]

Well, I don't think we spit it out. I think we drank it, but I don't know.

[B]

Probably. I mean, you're like fucking four. You drink this thing that tastes like bubblegum.

[A]

I wasn't four. I was old enough. Whatever. I'm not saying anything happened to me in this specifically, because I don't. Maybe it's just really boring. I don't fucking know. But I asked friends of mine that were in it, and I get bizarre answers. You know, it's a lot of private contractors, like all of our fine things we execute here. So my one friend who's from college, Texas, was in it, and she said she'll go to another room. They. They had another side room, like a, you know, an auxiliary building or something that all the kids go in and they all get in a hot air balloon basket. Like a big hot air balloon basket. And then there was like a screen and a projector, and it was just like them flying over Italy, I guess. And that's what she remembers of it. Yeah, that's.

[B]

Did it go dark after that or something?

[A]

That's all she remembered of it. Yeah. So I'm like. I. I don't know what. No, that's not what I thought I would hear anyway. Well, here's what it is, by the way. Probably some remote viewing. My guess, if I had to guess what it is now, it's probably they're trying to see something with remote viewing.

[B]

And they're trying to tap in.

[A]

They did all that and they still do. Dude, did you have that Hamilton kid on?

[B]

No.

[A]

Hamilton.

[B]

Hamilton Morris. I did not.

[A]

I keep saying kid like I'm so Jersey Shore dude. You know that kid?

[B]

I. I know who he is.

[A]

Yeah, he's a good kid.

[B]

I think he's like your age.

[A]

Yeah, well, so I was watching him talk about John Lilly as the dolphin house guy.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Where they're trying to see if they could teach a dolphin to speak English with hand jobs. Listen, I could have told them my English doesn't get better when I get a hand job. Julie. I make dolphin sounds.

[B]

I don't know how Todd's holding it in over there.

[A]

I can't be associated with this. Don't bring Todd into this.

[B]

Hey, listen, Todd's got great art. We'll put that.

[A]

He did my derp with KIRP animation. The Schoolhouse Rock thing.

[B]

No shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that how you guys know each other?

[A]

I know. No, I know Todd from. From George. My Animation. We all went to animation school.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

20 years ago.

[B]

Very cool.

[A]

And then, should I not bring up your record or so is it okay? So I don't want to. Me and George work together. Todd's running for office soon, so he can't be seen.

[B]

It's gonna run with you on the ticket.

[A]

He can't be seen with vaccine Denier. I didn't deny it, dude. I said the fucking Covid one. I got Covid not denying it.

[B]

God, aren't we past that at this point? I feel like people.

[A]

I would have thought that, but tell that to fat people that work at the airport. Yeah, I would have thought that, but tell to a random skinny gingers. Or if you're a fat fuck that works at the airport. I don't know if that. They made an announcement. You got to still wear a mask forever.

[B]

Oh, right. I don't understand it.

[A]

The mask never works on their car. Still do it. Just so you know, the masks have never. Masks are for surgery.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Every nurse and a bunch of doctors who weren't directly paid off. Like a bounty per head giving you shit that you didn't need, maybe. Dude, the masks are for surgery so they don't spit in your wounds and kill you. Right, but the virus could get through that easily. That never did anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So now people still wear it because they found out they had pretty eyes, I guess, during the pandemic.

[B]

Or they wanted to kill you.

[A]

Louie is like, I like masks. People have pretty eyes. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Covers up the beak, too.

[A]

Well. Especially if you're neurotic and you're from one of them houses. Like, I don't know how you grew up, but when I live in New York, like, I knew so many people. I knew, like, three people, dude. That said they were the first person ever to be given Prozac.

[B]

Yeah, Prozac's all over, man.

[A]

Well, I know, but this is our eyes. The SSRI thing is, like, these are the early adopters of that. We're in New York. We're neurotic. Like, when did they all look like Woody Allen, these people?

[B]

When did. Well, that's not good. When did that really become a thing? Like, when did SSRIs explode? Was that the early 2000s?

[A]

Yeah, probably.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's when I first. A doctor gave me samples of Paxil. I remember.

[B]

I think I just, like. Out of his pocket, I think.

[A]

I didn't have insurance or something, and I was getting panic attacks like, fucking crazy. Like, these horrendous panic attacks is like a Long time.

[B]

Yeah. Take a pill. Put that on it.

[A]

Yeah. And it. And so did like, even. I mean, it does do that. But it made me like. It's not like I could. Not sexually dysfunction, but. But like, I didn't even want to be functional sexually. I was like 20 fucking 2. I. Okay. Like now, sure, I'm alive. But why? So I stopped. But a lot of people on them, they're not good. They're school. I call them school shooter pills.

[B]

That. I'm so glad you said that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because that's the thing no one ever wants to talk about when these fucking crazies go into a school and do this stuff every fucking time they're on.

[A]

Why do you think they wouldn't want to talk about that?

[B]

Because it sells, dude.

[A]

A guy sued successfully. I forget which SSRI it was, but he sued it for turning him gay. This is a while ago now think of, like, beating a pharmaceutical company because.

[B]

It turned you gay.

[A]

And your argument is it turned me gay. Like when I tried to sue iPhone, that didn't work. They told me it was my own gayness, in fact. Yeah. Imagine winning that, though.

[B]

And so can we pull up that lawsuit also? Thief's already got it. Parkinson's patient wins lawsuit over gay sex addiction. This is from November 2012.

[A]

I cannot stop. He was in France.

[B]

A French man who claimed a Parkinson's drug turned him into a gambling and gay sex addict has been awarded €197,000 in damages. Didier Yambart of Nantes, France, sued the pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline in Didier, claiming the drug requip caused him to lose €82,000 gambling on the Internet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He said he also became addicted to gay sex and risky sexual encounters. He said he was raped after starting the drug in 2000.

[A]

His gambles.

[B]

Oh, this is like, really tragic. And attempted suicide eight times.

[A]

No, dude.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

The gambling, it's so. The. Him turning gay. It's not that turning the. The compulsive gambling addiction. Yeah, that's like an extra. Like he's spinning the wheel on sexual things. And that's. That's. They used to say it worked like they thought it inhibited some chemical thing. But if you go back and look at the commercials, they don't say that they know for sure. They go, we think it. They go, we think it works this way in the commercial now. And I remember the commercial too, but I remember that part of we think it works this way. You just saw the picture. You know, the dumb, dumb pictures they draw the pill goes in here and then. So, yeah, so that's what it triggers. So a lot of suicides on it.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

And a lot of the ones the suicide where you go out and take people with you.

[B]

Take people with you?

[A]

Yeah, you know, like be a star when you go out. Like how America not like Japanese, like.

[B]

Someone to film it. Not. Not the Japanese forest thing. I'm saying like someone actually America has the most.

[A]

I'm going to take you with me kind of suicides. I bet you if you stacked up the right. But it says, dude, you have no shit. Those pills. First of all, why would they be advertising prescription medication on tv?

[B]

It's nuts. It's absolutely insane.

[A]

And people don't even know America does that. People didn't know until the Oprah, you know, Prince Harry and Meghan fucking interview when Oprah interviewed them. Do you remember that?

[B]

Yeah, in 2021. I remember that.

[A]

But what was so on Twitter, people in UK were like, wait, why they advert? Because it was. It was a. You know how their fucking cause is mental health?

[B]

Yep, yep.

[A]

Who's fucking causes mental health? Well, that's an advertisement. It's a sponsorship for fucking brain pills. So every. They cut away from Oprah going. And then they're like brought to you by brain pill. Yeah. And so all these people in countries that's not allowed were like, that's fucking crazy. Not New Zealand. Because it's just us in New Zealand.

[B]

Yeah, us in New Zealand. But like on the elliptical in the mornings, I'll see it's on mute. So I will see the ads come on in between. Like I'll usually have on like ESPN or something like that. And literally every ad is some kind of fucking pill with people dancing through fields while they're going through all the things that can fucking happen to you.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

I'm like, of course. I mean, I already knew this. But when you see it every day and are actually looking for it, you're like, this is programming, dude.

[A]

Yeah, right. So that, by the way, that's what Monarch is.

[B]

Yeah, let's come back. Let's come back to Monarch. Because you didn't.

[A]

So the transformation is spelled trance, you know, with a say. Yeah, they did it. The thing that's in a book and when you. When you read it, they did it.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

Explain it to my Control to control mass mind control.

[B]

But that's so. I know that is MK Ultra. Monarch is a part of MK Ultra. What were they doing there?

[A]

Well, Monarch's the one where they Were monarchs, like the one with all. Like, they're telling them they're chosen ones. So basically they went to a bunch of generationally abusive families and people they caught. So her dad, for example, was like a. Like a messed up PDF file. The author, her dad. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Kathy o'. Brien.

[A]

And he got caught sending CP through the US Mail. So they offered him a chance to be in the program because they had discovered that general generational trauma is real. So like a monarch butterfly, it transfers.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

What do they call it? Epigenetics now? Yes, that's real. They learned that from Mengalow, you know, when America saved him too. And brought. So fucking. That's what they were doing. They were. They wanted generationally trauma people that could dissociate.

[B]

So they would get, in this case, the father and they go, put your.

[A]

Kid in the program.

[B]

And they put. They brought the kids and that's what all that.

[A]

So. So for example, in Stranger Things, which was gonna be called Montauk originally. Right.

[B]

I did not know that. I never watched that show. I'm familiar.

[A]

It was fine. But all these shows, you know, the reason I would know this stuff is I'm a writer. So it's not. You know, people think things should. Things are like soft disclosure all the time. But it also could be somebody's a writer and they're just looking at real shit to find something interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is what I would do. So. But you'll see this shit pop up. I'm sure it pops up in that football movie that's like. Not by Killer Peele. Was it him? Okay. I haven't seen it, but people, like, don't. But it. It's got elements that if you saw a Blink Twice, you see Blink Twice, the one with. What's the. Lenny Kravitz. His daughter directed the Catwoman from.

[B]

Zoe.

[A]

Yeah. Zoe Kravitz. Yo. Blake twice has Monarch all through it. In fact. In fact, he says a line, he goes, yeah, the more up it is, the more they don't remember. So you could use severe evil abuse of someone who dissociates. You could store secrets in them. First of all, nobody wants to talk about the shit that they do in this. Okay. The stuff they did is so beyond anything that you would imagine. It sounds like if I was like some angry kid being edgy in a notebook, probably because I was viciously abused by an authority figure or something. Yeah, it all sounds like that. And so the shame of doing that to kid. It's like a safe. You can keep information in.

[B]

What do you think? What do you think makes someone at a government agency start a program like that?

[A]

Well, I won't make them do all the other things that, you know they did. No, it's about they don't give a Whatever they did to another country, they're gonna come, they're gonna do it you. And they are. And they are. Whatever they do to other people, they'll do to you. That's what you should think. Any country you live in, you should always think that about your country. If they did it to these other they do it to me and they do all the time. So think of every up thing though. I mean, it came out in, I think, 2016 when, you know they were spraying cadmium something on black kids in Missouri.

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Learn [e-mail]. i don't know about this. This is why you're here, Kurt.

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I mean, it's so fucked up, it's almost fucked up.

[B]

Who was. Who was doing.

[A]

Who wasn't chemtrails, either. They just put sprayers on the top of buildings to spray into them.

[B]

All right. Did the government poison a city?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Inside the army seat. So they're saying it's Army?

[A]

Yeah. Cadmium Army.

[B]

Secret tests in Saint.

[A]

Yeah. Just what would happen if.

[B]

Can I just read this so people have context?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Sorry.

[B]

All good. During the Cold War, the US Government carried out experiments on Americans without knowledge or consent. Former residents of a St. Louis neighborhood demand to know what the army sprayed in their neighborhood. Army admits it sprayed a chemical containing cadmium. There it is. A carcinogen. One researcher asks, did they also spray radiation? Let me get a little more on this thief, actually. So my government used me like a guinea pig. It hissed from nozzles on vehicles and rolled slowly down the streets. It drifted from rooftops where the brick facade of Pruitt Ego. The air heavy, clinging to 33. The air heavy, clinging to three 33 concrete towers that glowed and almost seemed to hold the sun. Captive children played outside. The shouts of their games echoing between high rises. And then the fog would come. It hiss from nozzles on vehicles that rolled slowly down the street. It drifted the rooftops where a maintenance man had stood installing devices just days earlier, wearing protective gear. A cloud that hung thick in the air, clinging to the skin, seeping into lungs and leaving behind a chemical tank. I would love to say that something like this didn't happen, but we have so many historical records. Tuskegee experiment. The selling crack in LA forever. That's crazy.

[A]

Why would anybody doubt. This is what I don't get. How many things they have to do that you saw for people. But I think that I shouldn't trust you, ever. Like, if you knew a person that did all this shit, you wouldn't fucking just trust them, right? But people just do. That's what. That's what the mind control part is.

[B]

Where do we go from here, though? Because, Kurt, we're kind of in that. Not kind of.

[A]

We already happened. It's done. Usually Copy.

[B]

It's done.

[A]

Whatever. The thing that you got to worry about. They did it. You blew it. I'm only Top Lane. You blew it. Yo, they did it. When you read that book, you'll see they did it.

[B]

But where do we go?

[A]

I try to remember. Here's what I would recommend.

[B]

Do you Burn the whole system down. What do you do?

[A]

I would just. That's a little ambitious. I would just. I would just try one to try to remember a thing more than one month. Try to. The psychic ability of remembering which almost no one has. I don't know if you notice that people just move on to the next. Move on. I don't. I don't know what the fuck everyone's doing. I've never gotten over being when I was told don't do your own research. I never got over that. That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

[B]

It's nuts.

[A]

Yeah, okay. And if I bring it up to my. My smuggling ass, New York friends, not Todd. Todd is a hardcore militiaman and he wants that known and he wants his kids school to know that's he don't have the guzzy. Say it, but I'll say it. Dude. All my friends, it depends how well you're doing, how much you. This is the promise of America is I don't have to give a shit till happens to me. That's what everybody wants at the end of the day out of America, you want that feeling. And well, I got good news, assholes. It will happen to you. And it does. And so as this deteriorates, this fucking pyramid scheme, it happens to more people. So I love watching people be baffled by the dissatisfaction of huge. They're just baffled. I don't even know why they're being like this. It's amazing. But so you don't have to really do shit except maybe don't be a liar. You know, don't like, hey, for my job I have to be cool for something bad. Yo, I'll be cool if you're like, you know, if you were doing rails before this, I'd be cool. I don't give a shit that you did that. I'm not talking about being cool about like, but when you, when you know somebody's involved, involved in something bad, like why would you just be cool with that? Like why would you.

[B]

Right? And living in the Internet era now, it'll.

[A]

How could you play Riyadh? No, I'm joking. I don't have any.

[B]

Were you invited?

[A]

I wasn't invited, but I feel like I would like to be. And I, I feel like you would.

[B]

Have killed it in Riyadh. They would have liked you.

[A]

Well, I have an affinity with a lot of eyebrow people. In fact, I'll tell you something. Eyebrow people, eyebrow people, a lot of people who with a heavier brow really get it. You know, so I will talk to cabbies a lot and. Or Driver Lyft drivers, as a fact. Have you now, did you ever live in New York? Like New York, New York? No, just a Hoboken.

[B]

That's right. I'm Hoboken trash like Empire Strikes Back.

[A]

Luke Skywalker, if he didn't get hit by that thing. If Luke. If Luke did not crash that motorcycle and had a nice, straight, little nosy. Have a Yoda on your back while you talk to me.

[B]

Add it to the list, bro. Danny Duncan.

[A]

A lot of people are wondering what's up with your hair. And it's Luke Skywalker hair now. You heard it here first.

[B]

I guess so.

[A]

What are they talking about? I got distracted by my memories.

[B]

Yeah, you were talking about how they do it to us over and over again. But people forget in a month.

[A]

I can't remember what That. I don't think I said that. You did say that. I'm joking. Yeah, yeah. No, look, when they. After the Epstein thing, I don't understand how anybody.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, look, I guess I thought there was something there. Obviously there wasn't. Sometimes things don't pan out and, you know, maybe one day we will know who Jeffrey Epstein was working for fully. An expert could tell me who.

[B]

Listen, listen.

[A]

If we could piece it together somehow.

[B]

It feels like China. It feels like China.

[A]

Yo. We're not as good as China. I've been in China, Everybody. I want you to understand something. They have flying cars in China. They're not lying. They have flying cars. Okay? They're gonna. They're installing a maglev train. You know the thing that is still a conspiracy theory in America? The maglev.

[B]

The maglev?

[A]

Yeah. Like where they use. Matt, pull it up. You never heard of that?

[B]

No. Once.

[A]

You like a stop.

[B]

That's why you're here. You got to tell me these things. Maglev trains use magical levit magnetic levitation to achieve high speeds by eliminating friction. With systems in Japan, China, and South Korea operating at speeds of up to 375 miles an hour. While offering advantages like quieter, smoother rides and weather resistance. Maglev technology faces challenges including extremely high construction costs, extensive tunneling, potential environmental impacts, and high energy consumption. All of which they don't care about in China.

[A]

So neither do we. Theories in China was.

[B]

We pretend to care, though, Kurt.

[A]

Well, you know what we did for recycling? I used to be in recycling when I was young. My parents are in there.

[B]

Oh, you don't recycle anymore?

[A]

No. You know why? Any. If you're in a relationship. You tell me a girl that's gonna. Even if she knows the truth about recycling, she's never gonna stop recycling. That is like a. I don't know, some kind of rosary beads to people to this day and really is pissing in the wind like that fucking meme from the. You know this. It's an Italian money making scheme. I don't know the level of how fake it is until way later. But. So we were giving China all.

[B]

Recycling's not real.

[A]

No, you can. And they recycle some things but it's not cost effective to recycle. Excuse me, I had a couple of claws before this. Yeah, they don't make money on it. So guess what? They're not going to recycle shit they don't make money on. So what they were doing with most of recycling was sending it to China. And they're like, you throw this away. And then China would throw it away in the sea. I don't know where they were dumping it, but China wised up around 2018 or 19 and then they were like, we're not throwing your out for you. No more interesting timing in la, just so you know. And ask a garbage man if you don't believe me. They just dump your with the other garbage. They've been doing it for a while.

[B]

I totally believe that.

[A]

What is even hard to believe? A little bit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. And I. My ex girlfriend's like. She like. Well, I know like home like hobos that do recycling. Like they can sell those, you know. So there's always a reason to keep doing recycling because it's such a. You did like a homework thing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And it's. And there's no reason. It was like wearing a mask is a similar feeling, I imagine for some people.

[B]

Yeah, it's one of the wildest part about the mass things because you were talking about that a few minutes ago, is the fact that you could at the time when they were telling everyone in April and May 2020 and then all the way for a couple years after that to wear a mask everywhere. You could literally roll tape of all the quote unquote experts saying in January, February, March 2020, laughing and remember the one of Fauc. No, it's not going to help you at all.

[A]

You remember Fouchy, by the way, that's glad you brought him up because you remember when he tested AIDS drugs on foster black and Puerto Rican kids and then buried him in a mass grave. That's what Fauci fucking did. So by the way, that guy was in charge of the whole. Is it like just after, you know, this shit. I was. Everybody still believe. Okay, go for it. You know the next war for us is going to be Venezuela, you know that.

[B]

You think it's gonna be Venezuela?

[A]

Well, because all that drug horseshit. Do you think that's like the bad guy that's bringing the drugs in has been Venezuela the whole time. How many countries are between.

[B]

No, they're one little.

[A]

So we're blowing up boats with suspected. I would. Why don't you say you knew they were drug dealers for sure, right? Don't say suspected because that feels like you just blowing people up. They want to overthrow that guy, so they're going to do it. So all this that we're supposed to not have anymore with Trump, you're going to have. You're going to have John McCain no matter what you do.

[B]

Did you know that was coming?

[A]

No, but I hope maybe because of the spasms of, you know, like the entire fucking America boutique left. I thought maybe Trump is. You know. But I would never put faith in it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I've never voted. Dude, I would. But I would vote the next one. If I thought he turned out to, you know, not be part of the thing, I would.

[B]

Oh, that thing.

[A]

Well, the me. Where are we now? We're right. Right. Exactly where it was when he came in.

[B]

Right.

[A]

He's done. I don't know why they're like, this is not like the other. There's never been anything like that. No, no.

[B]

It's the same shit. I completely go ask people in other countries.

[A]

It's literally the same shit. With like some more tweets. Who cares? So yeah, we're going to Venezuela because they want to overturn. Overthrow Maduro.

[B]

I don't get the big deal. Like it's not a big country. They're cut off from half the world. They got some oil. There's a million countries.

[A]

They have more than the Arabs have. They have. Their oil reserves are like unbelievable. It's some kind of oil that sucks to refine. But guess what? We built those refined. The Koch brothers built those refineries a long time ago.

[B]

So they're just going to go in for that?

[A]

We. It's just one set of fucking psychopaths. Priorities got replaced by another's. It's very obvious.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know it's gonna be how it's gonna be. They're gonna do. Do you know anybody was like, we gotta take over Finland or whatever the he said.

[B]

Forgot that was a country.

[A]

What Was your priorities, dude. Would you say for the country taking over Finland building a casino in Gaza?

[B]

Look at this. The proven. You're right, Kurt Metzger. The proven reserves in Venezuela are recognized as the largest in the world, totaling 300 billion barrels as of January 1, 2014. The 2019 edition of the BP Statistical Oil Review of World Energy reports the total prove reserves of 303.3 billion barrels for Venezuela. Slightly more than Saudi Arabia's 297.

[A]

Yes, that's why Saudis are.

[B]

Why are they so like. I understand they have sanctions on them from all over the world, but why are they as poor and destitute as they are when they have that much?

[A]

It's the sanctions that we. Okay, so that guy Chavez.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I'm no commie, Julian. You know me. I'm not a common.

[B]

You sure? You're wearing a lot of red on that shirt.

[A]

It is a lot of red. That's actually very suspicious.

[B]

Also like a kind of reddish pipe right there.

[A]

And my pipe is a dirty Hollywood red stripe on the end.

[B]

Right. But no, you look like someone's hiding under the floorboards.

[A]

I paid a lot of money for this pipe. In fact, I would say I was ripped off with what I paid to somebody for this. So I feel like.

[B]

That's not Houston Street.

[A]

Yeah, pretty close. Pretty close to it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just wanted to have a pipe to look distinguished on the Julia door. Yo, if I'm going to talk to Luke Skywalker about world events, you know I'm going to talk to fucking Hoboken Luke Skywalker right now. I can't believe how training you. I'm like, don't fight Darth Vader, dude. You're not.

[B]

He's dead. James Earl's gone.

[A]

You got a little on his back doing flips and shit. That's all I can think about. Okay, what were we talking about?

[B]

Use the force and tell me about Venezuela. And you said I'm no.

[A]

Okay, so. But they voted for. For now. I've talked to many people from Venezuela, like that guy Chavez. Okay, fair enough. But let's also be fair. The people with the money to move to America from Venezuela, you know, so the level of people that were starving before he came in is why he won that election. He didn't take over in a coup. So people that are starving don't give a shit if he fucked up your fucking economy. They're kind of upset about that.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Okay. Not my problem. I'm not from there. But why is it our problem? Because they have those Resources. So there's no democracy. First of all, in Transformation of America, that book I brought up earlier, it's all about when the CIA took over the entire narco traffic, dude, why is there any. We're going to go to the cartel. We're going to go to war against the cartels. The CIA has controlled that for quite some time. You get that, right?

[B]

Oh, 100%, yeah.

[A]

So what are they talking about? We're going to go to Mexico and stop, bro.

[B]

I've had the guy sitting here who worked with them on behalf of the CIA.

[A]

Yeah, who was the guy?

[B]

Matthew Hedger.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Literally his job was to launder money for the cartel to exist as a cover for CIA to be able to do CIA stuff.

[A]

Is that the guy with the Vatican thing or is that a different guy I saw you talk about? Yeah, well, but you've talked to a few people that do that, that have.

[B]

Done that, cartel wise, I think.

[A]

Matt Middleman.

[B]

Yeah, it's like, like CIA related. Matt's the only one I know.

[A]

There's a lot of cutouts. Right. So. So, you know, you work for a private con. So I'm saying, like when I was talking about GATE before, people I talked to have different experiences from it. You might have just been in it and there was nothing weird in it. Okay. Nobody knows because they do private contracting and that way you get away with whatever the fuck you want to get done.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

So.

[B]

So that's why all these guys, when you're like, oh, you never left CIA, they look at you with a straight face and said would confidently and say, yes, I did. Because technically, if you looked at paperwork, they could say that, but they still have a desk there.

[A]

Yeah, that's the, that's the long and short of it is that shit is what can I technically say that's not perjury, right? With. And it's completely divorced from anything with telling the truth or morals. It's just like, what can I say that in a legal setting it might be a complete lie.

[B]

Yep. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So I'm like rap three times. Go on.

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna denoise the audio a little bit.

[A]

The thing I can't believe, dude, is that all my control is like hypnosis or just being in a trance. It's. You see it all day. You ever hear of Taylor Swift amnesia syndrome? No, it was like wacky news not long ago.

[B]

Can we pull that up? Taylor Swift amnesia syndrome, you're saying Taylor Swift.

[A]

Someone that worked on her concerts told me what they Think causes it too. Or maybe they said they know it's something with like the strobe lights that she was using.

[B]

The Taylor Swift amnesia syndrome is a non medical term used by fans in the media to describe post concert amnesia. Where some attendees Taylor Swift's ERAs Tour Report Memory gaps about the concert. Experts suggest this phenomenon isn't a true amnesia, but a brain function where intense excitement, sensory overload and high adrenaline states during a joyous event interfere with memory encoding, making it difficult for the brain to form long term memories of the experience. That feels like. That feels a little MK Ultra to me.

[A]

I've never heard of that with any con. I never heard that about fucking Woodstock. They all can't stop, shut up about how they were.

[B]

And they were all doing fucking LSD the whole time.

[A]

They're all whacked out on their minds like, oh, I'll never forget Woodstock. What is that?

[B]

But they can't remember the ERAS tour with their dad.

[A]

Who the fuck is going to see Taylor Swift? It's like millennial single moms and their daughters. Like a lot of Gilmore Girls.

[B]

You never got a friendship bracelet? You didn't do that?

[A]

I never got one. I don't remember if it was against my religion, but I don't. I don't think I was ever.

[B]

Do you adhere to a religion, Kurt?

[A]

Now?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I was Jehovah Witness growing up.

[B]

You were a Witness? You had to go like door to door.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

How was that?

[A]

I mean, I don't care about that part. The part about it usually people be like, you couldn't do Christmas. Shut the fuck. You must be retarded if that's your. You know, I could never do that because Christmas and birthdays are you seven? That's the best part of the whole thing was I didn't do that stupid. You know, I'd be in school and they put. They make somebody make cupcakes for the, you know, Christmas, whatever seasons, greetings cupcakes. And we didn't go protest at school or they have to stop doing Christmas. I just didn't have a cupcake. Like a man. Like a man. That's the thing I'm the most grateful to Jehovah Witnesses for is that I never got imprinted with nonsense.

[B]

Right?

[A]

So no nonsense was programming yo. The. The secret of human nature. They say it in the church of Satan. This is their big secret thing, supposedly. Did you end. No, never. Mark Pazio, check him out, okay. He's a great lecture about all their. He was a priest. Oh no, he wasn't high up. He said he was a. He had a grotto high priest.

[B]

He was just a priest.

[A]

Levay ordained him as a girl. As a priest of a grotto in Philly. So it's like a parish. I don't know. But he explains parish. Yo. Well, here, I'll break it down for you. The whole thing, it's. It's. The world is carnies and rubes. There you go. Okay. And. And part of the magic is. Is illusions. You know, like, lying is number one. The most effective magic of all. And they know a million, and they go. Human nature is not good or bad. It's programmability. And that's a fact. That's exactly what it is. So it's all the subtle ways of programing another human being, and they're not like. I mean, they take it to quite an extreme, but it's just shit you think is normal. Advertising a prescription drug. Just shit that is normal to you that another person didn't have. Your programming will go, what the fuck? And it's so easy to, like, have it blend into your life like it's no big deal. But then once you start to notice it, you can't unsee it. So. So for me, because I'm on Jimmy's fucking show, and I got to look at the actual news, I could. When I look at crazy, I could do. I could correlate just to see who, you know. Like, you'd be surprised.

[B]

Yeah. Jimmy's also. Actually, it's cool that you do a lot of content with him, because Jimmy, when I think of how weird the last 10 years has made America and the way we think about stuff, I think Jimmy's, like, the perfect example of, like, that dart that was on the board and the wind whipped everyone all over the place.

[A]

Jimmy's one of them Irish dudes who was good. It was great about Jimmy. Dude. He's one of them. You know, he's from those Irish families of 12 kids. And then, like, they adopt kids, too, you know? Like, that's painfully Catholic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In Chicago. And he really is a guy that's, like. That's no fit. He really is kind of like a vain dude, but he is very introspective in a way none of these people do.

[B]

What do you mean? He's. He's vain.

[A]

He's always talking about his hair. And what I'm saying is, because great hair.

[B]

Let him talk about his hair.

[A]

I'm not against it. What I'm saying is there's people I know, other people that don't have his introspection of where he's willing to wrestle with his demons and be like, well, I'm probably just jealous. So. And what that boils down to is if you show him evidence of something, he will look at it and not dismiss it. So that's a very basic.

[B]

Imagine that.

[A]

Well, try to, because I don't know anybody. I know if you got your emotional connection to a thing, they won't. Dude, you. Okay, here's the thing that I tell people all the time, and I. I still don't know if they, like, think I'm lying to them, but you know how you see general Petraeus sit down with the head of al Qaeda, bro, And isis, bro. Yo, you want. I clipped us.

[B]

Can we pull that up? Yeah, I want people to see this video.

[A]

So.

[B]

Which by.

[A]

The guy changed his name Kurt, by the way. Yeah.

[B]

The fact I'm all for the people in the U. N. Walking out on Netanyahu. The fact that they didn't walk out on this guy, though, too, is.

[A]

Well, he did change his name.

[B]

Well, I'm. I'm happy It's a rebranding session.

[A]

Yeah, they rebranded. But okay, we. So we played this with Kiriaku on. On Jimmy show.

[B]

On Jimmy show. What. What was his reaction?

[A]

Yo, I like that dude. He kuri is on board with everything I'm saying. He don't go as far as I go.

[B]

And I might make Kiriaku listen to.

[A]

This episode, but, yo, the guy went to jail. Listen, anybody that went to jail for like.

[B]

Yeah, go ahead, keep going.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[B]

He's got to pull up the video. Keep going.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The video is amazing because Petraeus sounds like he's fawning over this guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I asked Kiriaku because somebody told me, like, oh, yeah, he's like behind Daniel Pearl in the fucking beheading video.

[B]

Oh, wait, he was literally on.

[A]

Yo, he's isis. He's a founding ISIS member and Al Qaeda. All the greats. The guy's got a resume. And they're talking like. And. And by the way, he acknowledges it. Betray us. Acknowledges it. He goes, no, we are not each other. Yeah. And like, okay, that would be cool, except we said they're not soldiers. We said they're terrorists. Why are you talking to him like he's a fellow soldier?

[B]

Yeah, here. Here it is. Yeah, look at this volume on this, Steve.

[A]

And then we'll yo, imagine you got your dick blown off in Iraq or Afghanistan.

[B]

And you see this. Your general talking with this. All right? Boom, boom, boom, boom.

[A]

Wait, that's just him talking about. Here, I'll give you a good one.

[B]

We need. We need the one Petraeus. Like, we were hunting each other.

[A]

Yeah. Here, I'll give it to you. I cut it before I came in so I could give it to you. Oh, that's why I like you guys.

[B]

Just air drop it to MacBook Pro. Yeah. Petraeus, Syria hunting. Did he bring it? Okay.

[A]

When I saw this, I'm like, this is like the. Like. Dude, look at Alessi.

[B]

Posted clips while we're on air.

[A]

Love it. Nice. That's some great. Okay, unless.

[B]

Unless he's an MVP with that stuff. I don't post any of the clips on Twitter. That's all him. All right, here we go. Let's listen to this. Please join again in welcoming President Ahmed.

[A]

Alshara to the stage.

[B]

Welcome.

[A]

Now, his real name is Jalali or something. Yep. Salaam alaikum, Sayyid Rais, Ahen Moussalin and Sharaf Nassaidi. As you know, Mr. President, I spent.

[B]

Over 37 years in the U.S. army.

[A]

And I was a soldier, not a diplomat. So I hope you'll forgive me if.

[B]

I speak with the directness of the.

[A]

Old soldier that I am, as I.

[B]

Get the first question out of the.

[A]

Way, because the fact is that we were on different sides when I was commanding this.

[B]

You were, of course, detained by US forces for some five years, including again.

[A]

Holy shit. That's the isis.

[B]

Here you are now, as the president of Syria, which your forces liberated from the murderous Bashar Al Assad regime to participate in your first UN General assembly.

[A]

As the president of your country. Earlier this year, you met the President of the United States, among many other world leaders.

[B]

Please help us understand how you got.

[A]

From Al Qaeda in Iraq 20 years.

[B]

Ago to where you are today. Syria's head of state on stage in New York City.

[A]

I know what's happening. I welcome you, dude. I think. Is that the clip I sent? I think I sent one where the guy's voice is way funnier translating. It might be this. Yo. So he goes.

[B]

That is such a surreal clip.

[A]

So he's in prison five years. So. So ISIS is supposedly this prison gang, right? That started because we were in Iraq. So that's him. And I asked him, I goes, now, I don't know for sure he's the guy standing behind Daniel Pearl, but it's probable that he's the guy standing behind Daniel Pearl, who I thought was probably, like, a spy and not. No, I got told by somebody who would know? No. He got some things. Some tracker put some. The CIA put something on him to like track him. That the Al Qaeda had a sensor fork. You know, because we made Al Qaeda originally. And so they found it and killed him. The guy didn't even know why they were killing him because he didn't do nothing. He really just going to be.

[B]

CIA put a tracker on him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What kind of source do you have on that? You don't.

[A]

I won't say at all. Honestly, I won't. Is it.

[B]

I would have told you maybe inside or outside government. That's a. That's that. We'll keep it.

[A]

A guy that knew him that called him Tanny.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. And so that's just some. I was told. And I was told. And this same person told me and turned to be true. He goes, yeah. You know why? You remember we left our shit in Afghanistan and didn't disable it? Yep. Whoopsie doodle. It turns out it wasn't a whoopsie doodle. That is a lithium. Before the new lithium triangle they talk about. That was the lithium triangle. There's multiple lithium triangles.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So that's a payment. And we train more terrorists there and we gave the Taliban. And then.

[B]

Why would we leave that where the Chinese can get it though? That's what I don't understand. It's right by their border.

[A]

Afghanistan.

[B]

Yeah, it's right by their border because.

[A]

We got our friends the Taliban. Because our friends the Taliban are going to watch it for us.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Dude. I don't even understand. So basically you got to pick, like your faction of, like where you want the war to be. I think it's going to be Venezuela for some reason I don't understand in the New York Times. We reported on this too. On Jimmy Show. They. They. They bury it in paragraph nine. But top officials are like, we just want to get rid of Maduro. So we're going to say it's this. But they don't put it in the first. They supposedly don't like Trump. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Always bury it.

[B]

Yeah. People just read the headline screenshot on Twitter.

[A]

That's all. I don't even think people do that. Dude. Who. Where would you get news from? Honestly? Who. Do you know anybody that thinks like they get news?

[B]

I don't know that you can even say it like that anymore. I think it's like, where do you consume information that you know you have to try to figure out whether or not it's complete bullshit or just partial bullshit. Like I try to read everything across the spectrum and then create some law of average and hope that that gets me somewhere in the ballpark. But even I know that ain't getting me to the infield.

[A]

What do you think? Is there anything that you would, like you feel like you got taken in by that you wouldn't ever get taken in by again?

[B]

Oh, that's a great question.

[A]

Mine would be 9 11.

[B]

Wait, what? Then I misunderstood the question.

[A]

No, like an in by like 9 11. We went to Iraq. We went to like a.

[B]

Like a public story.

[A]

Yeah, lots of people.

[B]

Yeah, for me. For me it would probably be Covid. It's a more recency bias.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

But yeah, yeah, 911 is a good answer. They went to it. They wanted to go to Iraq that fucking night. I mean, that should tell you all you need to know.

[A]

Well, people said it, but I would have been like, shut up. I wouldn't listen to you if you told me. I don't know. Why. I don't know. I think it's like, I don't know. I'm old man.

[B]

What changed?

[A]

Covid's when I had a lot more time on my hands because of lockdown. In fact, if. If, you know, people that were like locked down, that are smart, they usually are like really well informed to a shocking amount, but they got nothing to do but look into.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You probably get reading material and that's all you could get.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You know, so they know. I don't know. I talked to at least a couple of ex cons that they knew more about than I did. And I mean, like, they knew like the scholarly information, like, because there's nothing else to do. So that was probably dumb to lock people down and. And tell them not to look into it. But it's all like a beta test or something. Like, let's see.

[B]

I think. Yeah.

[A]

You know this one. To ask John that I didn't get a chance to on Jimmy's show.

[B]

Kiriaku.

[A]

Yeah, John Kiraku. I wanted to ask him because he doesn't kind of believe it. I think mind control sounds like crazy to people, but it's not. It's like. It's just standard PR advertising. That's normal. It's not like. But if you think about it, like, depends the context. Yeah, but how much have you seen, like, you know, the ch. I used to laugh at this and I'm like, oh, that's. They hit women on their psychological thing. All the mag. Nobody reads magazines, I hope anymore. But dude, the magazine. I feel fat because this chick with big tits in a small waist of the magazine. I'm like, why don't you just not buy the magazine, right? You know, but no, people are programmable.

[B]

And they're like, same thing. Now, why don't you just not use the phone? Well, you know, everyone's on it.

[A]

It's North Korea, yo. It's North Korea in your pocket, dude, all the time. Like, I have this dumb joke about because in Austin they got Waymo. You know who Waymo is?

[B]

I've heard of Waymo.

[A]

So it's. This is a very stupid joke. I have a joke about, like, how great. It's like a driverless robotic car that you could jerk off in because there's like, dude, there's nobody there. And then my friend's like, you can't do that because they have cameras. Like, what? Like, where do you. Nobody jerks off off camera, dude. What are you talking about? Unless you're Epstein Cell, you never jerk off off camera. There's one last private place on the earth. Epstein Cell, you have two minutes. You do whatever you want, dude. Okay? That. That's what it is. Like, since the Patriot act, everybody's been spied on. And then when Obama, you know, when Snowden came out.

[B]

Snowden? Snowden, that podcast with. With Rogan back in. I guess that was.

[A]

Oh, I wouldn't even know if it wasn't for that, I wouldn't really think about it.

[B]

One of the most insane podcasts ev ever recorded. Like, when you hear him lay it out that simply with evidence, it's like, even if you're someone and thinks he.

[A]

Did, you got to be a cow. You got to be a fucking cow brain to go, well, it's wrong that he broke that he did that. No fuck face you dude right now. But I don't believe, like, regular people are like, dumb to the level you would think from watching TV and Internet shit. Tito's handmade vodka is America's favorite vodka for a reason. From the first legal distillery in Texas, Tito's is six times distilled till it's just right and naturally gluten free, making it a high quality spirit that mixes with just about anything from the smoothest.

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[B]

Yes. It was brilliant.

[A]

My ex at the time was like, oh, he's gonna win. Because here's a real simple concept. He's going, I'm here for you. I'm not. You don't have to support me. Well, guess how quick it switched to. Are you still loyal? 100% man, right off the Epstein thing. Are you still loyal? Dude, fuck face, I was never loyal. You're supposed to work for me.

[B]

Kurt. Kurt, on what planet? Like Donald Trump. One thing you have to say about him is he's the most poll aware politician I've ever seen. The guy knows every poll that's going on at any time. He knows where the temperature is on people and what they're feeling strongly about or not strongly about. Yet when it comes to the Epstein thing, he does whatever the complete opposite of the polls are. Which leads me to say, how is the big.

[A]

Here's the problem, by the way. I don't. But now he has an accuser in that Epstein thing. I don't know if that's real or not. If it's not real. And it's just. He's protecting the people that are still protected. That's worse. Dude, you. You're not even guilty of that too. And you're protecting the power structure.

[B]

That's why. I don't think it's that.

[A]

I got told by somebody crazy and I didn't want to believe it. And I don't believe it. I hope that's clear that Trump was just the white square on the freemason checkerboard and you're still in the fucking thing no matter what, motherfucker. So he's just. Instead of the black square, he's the white square. You only hear about white hats and black hats.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

What kind of horseshit? No, there's no such thing as that. It's either you're. They're going to force you in that stupid paradigm or you're just not going to be in it. So right and left. I don't understand why that's a thing. I know it goes to the front is from the French Revolution when they were chopping off heads like somebody sat on the right, left. Why are we using that? And also why is it that it's so either or like, you know, I'm neither a man nor a woman. I think I made that clear? When I came in.

[B]

Oh, you don't identify?

[A]

My gender is a spectrum, but my politics are either or. There's only two politics.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

How did that happen?

[B]

I don't think I've ever heard someone put it that way. That's good.

[A]

Yeah, but like. So I don't get to choose what my politics are. You're going to tell me based on what I said in the moment. So here's what happened. You all, everybody got converted to that private fucking feudal system that they wanted. Since Tragedy and Hope, if you want to find out the thing. Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quigley.

[B]

Never read it.

[A]

I never heard of it until Rabbi Richard Grove sent it to me.

[B]

Rabbi Richard Grove?

[A]

He's not a rabbi, but I like to call him my Rabbi Richard. He sent me Tragedy and Hope, which I didn't read. It's fucking huge. I read tragedy and Hope 101.

[B]

But you took a message from it.

[A]

No, it's on plastic.

[B]

You read the inside cover?

[A]

No, he sent. With it. He sent tragedy and Hope101, which is also pretty thick book. I read that one. Tragedy and Hope is fucking. It's the Record of the New World Order by Carol Quigley. Bill Clinton's mentor. Georgetown, who's also a Harvard professor. One of the most respected polymaths of his day, Carol Quigley. He was given cosmic level clearance by the CFR Council on Foreign Relations. So you know the President.

[B]

Cosmic level clearance.

[A]

There's nothing about aliens in it or something. It's just a name.

[B]

You say cosmic, it's above Q.

[A]

There's Q clearance and then there's cosmic clearance.

[B]

Okay, so Carol Quigley. Can we hit. Hit the Wikipedia. The CIA Wikipedia. See what they have to say about him. It's on the right side. Yeah.

[A]

So he didn't know they didn't want him.

[B]

Was. And hold on one second. He was an American historian and theorist of the evolution of civilization. That sounds deep. He's remembered for his teaching work as a professor at the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown and his seminal works, the Evolution Civilizations An Introduction to Historical Analysis and Tragedy and Hope, A History of the World of Our Time, in which he states that an Anglo American banking elite have worked together for centuries to spread certain values globally. An Anglo American.

[A]

Yeah, The Anglo American World Power is the second book he wrote later, after he went through a lot of shit for writing this book.

[B]

Book.

[A]

And it's amazing his story. Anyway, I have the original version, so they put out an edited version. So here's who's behind the big new world order thing. It's that as you know, as we know it now, I'm sure it's changed since then, but Cecil Rhodes, he knows.

[B]

You know that name. Yeah, yeah, let's pull him up.

[A]

The father of apartheid.

[B]

Yeah, let's pull that up for people.

[A]

The inventor of the concentration camp during the Boer War, this piece of shit. And you'll see like, weird. Like, you know how there's like a far right homosexual movement? For some reason of guys that are like, far right, the media trots them out. Like, you should be like, oh, these far right people are scary. And then they're gay every single. Without fail.

[B]

I've never like, like openly gay or have a wife or.

[A]

That comes out later. The one guy, remember Christopher Cantwell from Charlottesville? The guy that was crying? They called him the crying Nazi after.

[B]

That when he had the torch or whatever.

[A]

So now he makes gay porns. Gay Nazi on Jew porn. They're all gay, dude. You could see it in five seconds of like. Is everybody crazy? Everybody. So anyway, that's an actor. That's.

[B]

That's something.

[A]

No, dude. So Cecil Rhodes story is he's one of 12 fucking kids, some religious thing. And he does. He knows. He doesn't want to waste his time with girls, so he becomes a colonial guy.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait. His time with girls? So he becomes a colonial guy to fuck dudes?

[A]

Of course. That's why they did that. All these rich kids. Dude. The basis of it, dude. Alexander the Great, he was gay. Well, they didn't have gay back then, but he definitely fucked dudes. I mean, he's definitely dominant, I'll give him that. Yeah, it was the Hawk Tua of his time was Pitola.

[B]

I remember turning on that documentary on Netflix where they have like, the actors and I was like, oh, they stress like five minutes in. I was like, wait a minute.

[A]

But in Persia, he was called Alexander the Accursed. He wasn't called the Great. Why is he great?

[B]

The Accursed?

[A]

Yeah. Because he conquered their shit. Yo. Why is he great? Because he took some people's shit. That's what's good about him. Oh, that's great. And he was gay. He's the best. Anyway, here's Cecil. Sir Cecil Rhodes, who likes.

[B]

Can we pull up his Wikipedia?

[A]

He liked a nice BBC and his. His group founded the BBC.

[B]

See, Cecil Rhodes was a British mining magnate and politician in southern Africa who.

[A]

Man behind De Beers.

[B]

Prime minister.

[A]

De Beers is. He bought their name as the prime.

[B]

Minister of cape Colony. From 1890 to 1896, he and his British South Africa Company founded the Southern African territory of Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe and Zambia, which the company named after him in 1895. He also devoted much effort to realizing his vision of a Cape of Cairo railway through British territory Road set up the. Wait, he's the founder of the Rhodes Scholarship?

[A]

That's right. Funding from who? Rothschild and Company. That's cool.

[B]

Wait, where's that?

[A]

Right there.

[B]

Oh yeah, there it is. So at 18, he earned. Entered the diamond trade at Kimberley in 1871 and with funding from Rothschild and Company became. Began to systemically buy out and consolidate diamond mines. That's not weird at all. All right, let's go down to personal life. See what. See what?

[A]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait. So his big goal, his big goal was to make England make the world. England. You've heard that in like movies and shit. Yes, that's him.

[B]

With the rise of international anti racist movements like Rhodes must fall, Rhodes's legacy is a matter of debate in this day. Critics cite his confiscation of land from black indigenous population of the Cape Colony and his promotion of false claims that southern African archaeological sites such as Great Zimbabwe were built by European civil.

[A]

Okay, so he. He's a piece of shit. And so he invented concentration camps. The Boer War. It's in the King's man, the prequel to Kingsman. They show us in the beginning and it's in tragedy and hope. The pictures, it looks like Auschwitz, but it's white and black people. It's really wonderful.

[B]

So this piece, anyone that just wouldn't get behind what he wanted to do, It's.

[A]

The boars are the Dutch settlers in South Africa. And. And they fought. Apparently Lethal Weapon 2 didn't cover the whole history of that. I found out. I was surprised.

[B]

I mean, listen, there was more to.

[A]

It than lethal weapons.

[B]

When you. When you look at like what Prince Leopold did to the Congo and stuff and the numbers, no one talks about that.

[A]

Mike Twain did. Mark Twain even, you know.

[B]

Yeah. When? 150 years ago. That's what I'm saying. Like no one talks about it.

[A]

Leopold. Right. Well, no, because now is a convenient time to like. It's always good to point at Africa and be like, look at.

[B]

Damn it.

[A]

I gotta take a week, by the way. Really?

[B]

All right, let's stop. One sec.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We'll be right back. What's it? Jimmy Dore got his phone hacked. I didn't hear about this.

[A]

So, like, this is. Could be a year and a half ago. So first he Met some people that invited him to Bohemian Grove. He's telling me. Did he go, no, he. I think he made it weird. In fact, I think he made it weird with them because he brought up. I liked it when he's like. Talks about somebody being invited or something. I'm like, well, you were invited, but what did you do? You brought up Nixon and his Bohemian.

[B]

Grove quotes where they all go fuck each other in the woods.

[A]

Oh, dude, it's one of the funniest. It's. Who's the sports announcer? I don't even want to say the f. Slur on this show, okay? Not next to Todd. Not right now. Not next to my friend in the arts. But you know the word. We could all think it at home. But Nick's. There's a goddamn.

[B]

Yes, I'm aware of the quote.

[A]

Hagginiest thing. I don't know how to tell. How to just communicate things now. What. Not my fault.

[B]

I think you got it across. That's good.

[A]

Anyway, Jimmy brought that because, you know, you've heard that quote.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So these people had not heard it. He told her. They all stone faced him and it did a table. Anyway, around that time. So Jimmy had. And this is during the pandemic, because he did it on Zoom. He gave us. So he gave a speech at the un, but via Zoom.

[B]

Jimmy did.

[A]

Yeah. It's actually a good speech. In fact, I know it's a good speech because he got invited to Bohemian Grove and got his phone hacked by Pegasus.

[B]

Oh, it was Pegasus, dude.

[A]

To get through two factor authentication is like, no, I don't know anything about computer, but I know.

[B]

How did he find out his phone was hacked in the first place? Like, what happened?

[A]

He has security himself for shit, so. And his guy is some kind of guy that really worked in the. For the gut in that field. He goes. He goes, first of all, to use. I never heard of Pegasus, but it's. I think it's that Pegasus. So you got to be.

[B]

You haven't heard of Pegasus? Pegasus.

[A]

I hadn't until then. Yeah, but you got to be a state actor or like a jillionaire to have that, right?

[B]

Very expensive.

[A]

Yeah, I get so. And Jimmy goes, oh, I should have given that speech at the un. And the dude didn't know that he really did that. So he started laughing. Jimmy told me guy like, should have break. He said, oh, my God. Yeah, it's crazy. When I was trying to tell Rogan the story, the calls kept dropping. Like I couldn't get in touch with Them while I'm trying to tell him the story of the day. So. But Jimmy talked about on the show. I mean, he immediately talked about it on the show.

[B]

Yeah, but why did he need to go? Why did he have to give a speech at the UN for that to happen? They. With Pegasus, they can get to your phone from anywhere.

[A]

One thing that we learned is since the pandemic stomach is when Matt Taibi.

[B]

Yeah, he lives right over here.

[A]

Yeah. So he was very correct with the Twitter files. That wasn't a nothing burger as. You ever hear people say that? Nothing burger?

[B]

Oh, it's hilarious.

[A]

Like a real Rachel mad out dildo brain. People use that term, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What, like real? Just, you know, less than nothing, actually. If you got. So no, it wasn't nothing burger. It was insane.

[B]

It was insane.

[A]

In fact, if you complain about Jimmy Kimmel later, that's. Back then, they were censoring people without big followings.

[B]

Oh, it was insane.

[A]

Yeah, but so the thing is crazy. So how do you know a guy that like 26 people like this tweet? How would you even know to. Well, they're testing out AIs and they're trying to test out what goes viral. And they know, you know, like now they're going to do it just like for, I guess your two sides are Israel. And then I don't know what the other fucking side is. But the new boss, same as the old boss, they're gonna censor certain phrases. Even if you look it up on Chat GPT and just ask about any kind of thing, it'll tell you, like, there's no evidence for that. It'll do. It'll tell you not to worry about. Yeah, then what do I give a shit about AI? Then is that gonna talk to me.

[B]

Like, yeah, we did that. Deef and I were in here doing a Patreon a few months ago and we did it for Bezos. I have the video and I can literally play this.

[A]

There's no prove.

[B]

No, hold on.

[A]

That is Rocket looks like a dick. And that.

[B]

Look at this. So this was. We were talking about Epstein and then we were talking about Jeff Bezos with him. All right, so deep. And I just filmed a Patreon episode where we were reacting to the whole Epstein tweet yesterday that Elon sent out about Trump. And while we were recording it, there was like a connection to Jeff Bezos that came up.

[A]

And so Bezos is a great way to say it.

[B]

It look. And this is what it shows on Google. AI, what you are asking about A connection between Jeff Bezos and Jeffrey Epstein. Information that relates to private individuals, that relates private individuals to sensitive events is not available. Now watch. Interesting. Now, Dee, we just googled it afterwards. Google AI is like listening to us. And what does it say now? Full report on it. So that.

[A]

So what the.

[B]

Yeah, so it's like listening to. Because it's like, oh, they're on to us. And then it puts out the real thing. But most people don't go back and check the real thing. It's just quick front end censorship.

[A]

And the information, have you had it read your mind, your phone yet?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So I. I didn't even. Okay, this never happened to me. But I have remote headphones, if you have like the cord ones. So how is it doing that? Because a lot of people have had that happen. They think of the thing and it pops up on their phone. I've had the talking about something and it popped up. Yep, that's been around a while.

[B]

Yes, that's been around a while.

[A]

But a bunch of people, like, I think. So you know about the mind reading headphones? You've ever seen that presentation?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay, put in W, E F Mind ready reading headphones.

[B]

The World Economic Forum came out with these.

[A]

Okay. This is from a long time ago, man. And that's the thing. When I try to tell. I almost never get to my crazy. I like my crazy ideas.

[B]

Really? You don't?

[A]

Because like, this the shit that's normal Earth news. Nobody knows it. And also, it's so crazy. You think. I mean, you're like, there's no way that you're telling me the truth. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. But don't go from NBC. It's a thing on. I know, it was on YouTube. And there's a chick. It's her name.

[B]

Oh, is it Millie Niles?

[A]

Here, let me put it in. You just edit out the Looking for stuff parts.

[B]

All right. People like watching you do that, Kurt.

[A]

Oh, wait, wait. This might be it. Brain.

[B]

Brain Trans.

[A]

I'm sorry. It's called Brain.

[B]

At the World Economic.

[A]

I brought this up on several things. Okay. And nobody seems to remember it or know about it, but I want just.

[B]

Like on the YouTube bit as well. Yeah, sorry.

[A]

Yeah, you make it big. And. And wait, go into.

[B]

I wonder if the World Economic Forum. Will copyright strike us for this?

[A]

No, I. Dude.

[B]

All right, let's play it. It's 30 minutes. Do you.

[A]

Is there a specific spot to the animation part? So there's a check.

[B]

All right, let's pause it.

[A]

Oh, here it Is it's going to be right in the beginning. Oh, yeah, right.

[B]

All right, here we go.

[A]

Yeah, it's right at the beginning.

[B]

Okay. Excited. So. So first off the video, it's going to make full screen, see the future and understand a wonderful future where we can use brain waves to fight crime, be more productive. Oh, fight crime, be more productive. And find love.

[A]

Maybe find love.

[B]

You can't believe how productive you've been. Your memo is finished, your inbox is under control and you're feeling sharper than.

[A]

You have in a decade.

[B]

Sensing your joy, your playlist shifts to your your favorite song, sending chills up your spine. As the music begins to play, you glance at the program running in the background on your computer screen and notice a now familiar sight that appears whenever you're overloaded with pleasure in the temporal regions of your brain. You mentally move the cursor to the left and scroll through your brain data over the past few hours. Hours. You can see your stress levels rising as the deadline to finish your memo approached, causing a peak in your beta brainwave activity right before an alert popped up telling you to take a brain break. What's that unusual change in your brain activity when you're asleep? It started earlier in the month. You send a text message to your doctor with a mental swipe of your cursor. Could you take a quick look at my brain data? Oh, the cartoons are killing me. Whom you know you shouldn't be agent about given the policy against intra office romance. Oh my God. She can't help fantasizing just a little. But then you start to worry that your boss will notice your amorous feelings when she checks your brain activity to the present. My God. Breathe a sigh of relief when an email she sends you later that day.

[A]

Nice. Get your mind right. Wait, it gets better. The future is even brighter than that.

[B]

Along with emails, text messages and GPS location data, the government has subpoenaed employees brainwave data from the past. They have compelling evidence that one of your co workers has committed massive wire fraud. Now they're looking for his co conspirators. You discover they are looking for synchronized brain activity. And the people he has been watching, working with. While you know you're innocent of any crime, you've been secretly working with him on a new startup venture. Shaking you. Remove your earbuds.

[A]

No, wait. Watch when it comes back, the battle for your brain. Look at him giggling.

[B]

Is it a future you're ready for?

[A]

Look, they all go no. What the. Dude, this is Davos.

[B]

I go no, I didn't hear him go, no. That sounded like an huh. Everything in that video that you just saw is based on technology that is already here today.

[A]

There you go. Press pause. Go back, go back. Well, Obama had a threat, yo. Okay, make it small. And I wanted to show you the date when this came out. So when I first saw this, when it first came on.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

I think it's from like 2018, dude. When I first saw it, it was two years ago.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So either way, like Watchmen when he goes like it did my. My plan while you were talking. That's what it is. They did the plan while you. So Transformation of America. So Kathy o' Brien said this in her book. And that Jag off you had on. I'll send you the. The clip of the guy talking and it isn't true. Are you sure, young fella? At the time they were talking about doing this, Reagan was talking about it, and she said both her and. What's the other chick's name? Kathy, Not Kathy Kay Griggs watching the K. Griggs. Shit. Her. Her husband, Colonel Griggs had some diary of all the foul shit they were doing. And Kay Griggs sums up best. She goes, I thought they were all like Christian men running there, but they're all like German existentialists.

[B]

German existentialists.

[A]

That's what she called the people who rule everything. German existentialists. Which I think is the best way to put it. The worst thing that you could ever have hope to have in charge of you.

[B]

You is German existentialist.

[A]

Just think they're gonna on you. I mean, you know, I don't even have to tell you.

[B]

Anyway, Operation Paperclip type.

[A]

Everyone says this, their tech of the government is like 60 years ahead of what you get. Okay, Conservative estimate.

[B]

We talked about that.

[A]

That thing about moving your cursor with your mind in that video. They already have it, dude. When I was selling computers in the 90s, they were talking about already having that. It just didn't come out.

[B]

Yeah, Annie Jacobson wrote in her book about DARPA that they were trying to fucking telepathically talk with Dolphins in like 1991.

[A]

Yeah, they were giving him hand jobs, as a matter of fact.

[B]

Well, that too, apparently.

[A]

That's what. Dude, that fucking dolphin house creep. Yo, watch J. R Sweet talk about. This is Mormon monarch.org I would tell you to go read that guy. Mormon monarch.org that story is wild.

[B]

But what kind of website is this?

[A]

It's a guy who is in a. More a good Mormon Boy that got put in Monarch and it's all about his experience and I've seen him interviewed a couple times. Jerry Sweet. I want to get his book now.

[B]

The Only thing website is Dead is dedicated to the defragmentation of information regarding the CIA's illegal, unethical and unconstitutional top secret MK ultra trauma based mind control program. Through the words of a man who was born into it, lived through it, remembered to remember it and is still alive to tell you about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Nation which supports slavery is not secure.

[A]

It's all about making fucking slaves that they. You know, that's why we got all that Egyptian shit here. You know how how the Washington Monument looks like a. And you're like, yeah, it looks like a dick. And then if you do the research, just so you know and spend some time really doing the research, you'll find that it is actually a dick.

[B]

Well, all these. Who was it Tina Fey said? All. All the buildings in New York are just giant dicks. Point to. To the sky.

[A]

I mean, okay, yeah, but I don't know how intentional of a dick those are compared to the monument which is this. The missing penis of Osiris.

[B]

That's what it is. Can we pull this up? Monument, Missing penis of Osiris.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

God, the title of this episode is.

[A]

Going to be so much the missing penis of Osiris. You know the thing of where he's. Osiris is chopped up and then his sister wife has to put him back together, but she can't find the of him.

[B]

I don't remember this one.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Where am I finding this? Yeah, what are we Googling here?

[A]

I don't even know what to tell you to Google.

[B]

The Washington Monument does not represent the missing penis of Osiris. According to Google AI.

[A]

Yeah, they're very believable. Shape is often interpreted Google. I gotta tell you something. Google AI will not really tell you about nothing.

[B]

Google AI is not the base one.

[A]

Is there a fucking uncensored AI? Is there?

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Is there a not censored AI?

[B]

Tim Dillon says Grok is based and there's some arguments.

[A]

I've still seen Grok. Yeah, but listen, there's not a. There's only talk about him being alive. There ain't a single one that's allowed to just think based on evidence. That's not allowed. At a very basic level. Grok is still censored and it's going to be censored every time someone gets mad at a response. Depending how powerful you are. We're gonna have to adjust Crock. Okay, yeah, so that's that a couple times. Anyway, there's no reason. You have an Egyptian symbol with the obelisk, which is a. It's always been a. I like that they made black slaves build that big white. That's really. That's really sick as fuck, isn't it? Some sick fucks found in this country anyway. What is all this horseshit? What is all this? Why do they have this? Right? Why would you even have a bohemian girl? Why would that even be a thing? Yeah, I do wonder that.

[B]

Like, what the Are they.

[A]

I argue with Scott Horton about it. Who I did steal pipe having from Scott.

[B]

Right. He didn't have his pipe when he was here.

[A]

But he's probably like atheists or some. Look, okay, it's just a big owl and it's. I don't think the owl is Moloch. That's incorrect. There's never been an owl. Mock. That's not.

[B]

You know, it's not a thing.

[A]

Well, Moloch is a thing. I think maybe it might. Moloch just might be the name of what you sacrifice. But there's. I promise you, if that. If that misunderstanding of what Moloch is. It's been enough time that there are cults that. Without a doubt, even if Moloch wasn't a thing historically, the time distance means there's people that think it was and they have a cult based around it and they're not going to stop doing it, you know? Yeah, there's all kinds of dumb. What I wanted to find out was like, what are the most wealthy? You know, if you're really elite, what's your. What's your nexium over next? You know, I know the Bronf.

[B]

Like the next. Yeah, I just had Sarah Edmondson in that chair two days ago.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And so. And she. Yeah, bro. So. And you know how his thing is set up, right? The guy from Nazi. And much like Cecil Rhodes is, his idea was circles within circles.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And so he based it on the Bavarian Illuminati, the Freemasons and the Jesuit order. And so that's. And then it was called Milner's Kindergarten from Lord Milner. But it's all about England converting to soft power and getting all their colonies back. Because it's really not even about England. It's about being from like the right royal blood. That's what it's really about.

[B]

So that guy Ranieri was. Was such a sick fucking man.

[A]

I mean, he's an amateur compared to your government, dude. He's a fucking amateur. Yo, Monarch's real. They said it. They said the name of the program is real. Go look into what's involved in that. It's nuts and it's crazy.

[B]

They released the name of it.

[A]

Why? What are you gonna do? Nothing. You don't even know what. I didn't know it was fucking. Dude. I didn't know they verified it and I'm into it, so. No, you ain't gonna do shit. Project MK retards in full swing and it's. They don't got to put a chip in your head. Like, they have to do that. They have that for a long time. They're not going to break it out for you. They could broadcast it to you. And most people already trained fucking dolphin chimps to look at what they're supposed to. But, you know, I went to Taylor Swift, I paid two grand for tickets for me and my daughter so we can live out my Gilmore Girl shit. And I can't remember none of it. And I'm just going to move on and not worry about that.

[B]

Well, we've. We have the last example. The last example is the ultimate proof of it because literally, what, four or five months ago, Elon sends out a tweet about the President, United States being.

[A]

In the fucking Epstein we know he is. Is he in there for something that he.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I've seen a lot of people.

[B]

That news was gone in a week. Like, it is crazy to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That people have just decided to accept the narrative that, like, nothing to see here. He trapped traffic to no one. He didn't work for any intelligence agents.

[A]

And Doge didn't work out, by the way. We're cool, Doge. So let me get this straight. I love that people. You failed. So you think it's on. Do you think it's on Pam Bondi, that the. That Epstein bullshit they're doing, do you think?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah. Like, is everybody dumb as well? What you learned from tragedy and hope is the President ain't. Ain't in charge. At the end of the day, who.

[B]

Did you say was in charge?

[A]

It's. I don't know. But there's eight classifications above his level eight classification.

[B]

He had the number. Who's the name of the author?

[A]

Well, that. That might be separate from. But I'm so. Because he was given cosmic level clearance, that that's how he was allowed to go to the archive. Douglas Murray, like, you haven't been to the archives. Yeah, well, Carol Quigley has been to the archives. He wrote the book on It. And a lot of people were in. Like his publisher told him nobody bought it, but actually no, lots of people bought it. People were more literate back then too. And it's all the history of public schooling. You know how you have kindergarten, that Austrian thing.

[B]

Austrian school of economic stuff.

[A]

No, no, no, it's. I forget the name of the emperor, but the guy that figured out, I think he's the guy that collected giants. You know, there's a. An Austrian emperor who has had a giant fetish. So all his.

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah. Well, what's his name?

[B]

Austrian emperor with giant fetish.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

Clearly no one's looking at our search history today. I gotta start using private.

[A]

Yeah. Vpn.

[B]

Send it to Tel Aviv. All right, so there is no known Austrian.

[A]

Franz. Oh, it might be Franz Joseph. He had. He had a personal guard of guys over 6ft tall to 7ft tall. I mean.

[B]

Oh, so giants figuratively to him.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You can't not like literally the way I'm saying it is not going to go into an AI in it.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah. Is trained to. Not to disregard.

[B]

The guy had a fetish for larger dudes.

[A]

I think it's the same emperor. But anyway, there's called the Prussian model.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And it's. It's how we got kindergarten. So basically 70% of the soldiers were missing on purpose in war. You know, they had like a 30 years war and a fucking, you know, European wars and. Yeah, but people don't want to kill each other generally. So they learned that people were missing on purpose 70% of the time. So that's not good if you got to fight wars forever.

[B]

Yeah, it's not good.

[A]

So really getting you away from your mommy is the thing we need. So six is too late because you got some brainwave. You don't. You can't discern reality until a certain age as a kid. That's why you have a mom and a dad. So they pattern your right and left brain for you, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the first thing is to make sure you don't have both of those. So you live in one half of your brain. And then the subconscious, that's like a kid, they're raising in your head. So they. They want to get their dick in that real early. So that's what he did. And all it is is getting you away from your mom at a certain age. So the state has a foot in the door in case we need you to kill people for us. Which we. We will. We will. You understand?

[B]

Yeah, I get it. That's very dark.

[A]

Well, it was a miracle of. Of the time. And people, people from India and America and all these people went to learn this miracle. The Prussian miracle it was called. And then Carnegie and Rockefeller took his idea and they molded it to what they wanted to factory workers. And that's what that memo is from. So John Taylor Gatto is the guy that wrote against school. And he. This is what I learned from Rabbi Richard Grove. And you find the interviews are real good. John Taylor Gatto it's all about. Because Americans were like shooting at. It's like moonshiners or something. But they want their kids going to the state school. And this all is Woodrow Wilson. And it's all when England got the America back in the fold. And that's when we went to World War I. We used to hate England. Remember we liked France better. Is it weird? Like France became what we hate.

[B]

War brings people together.

[A]

Well first you got to take control of the President Woodrow Wilson and drag them into World War I.

[B]

How did they take control of him?

[A]

The guy behind his election. Yeah, he's in the book. I can't remember his name, but he actually wrote a fictional novel about doing just that. Like.

[B]

Like blackmailing him.

[A]

I don't know what the fuck it was. He basically like if you're the President, you're not gonna be looking at shit. Like how I would a guy with a lot of time on his hands. You got people you gotta trust that tell you what it is.

[B]

Right. I think about that all the time. The number of things that come on that desk every day.

[A]

Look, middlemen. This is why the thing is collapsing. Because people are like lying their way up the pyramid. And so not just lying down at you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's ambitious people that are lying to their superiors.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

So it can't. It can't sustain.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Is it Edward might be that guy.

[B]

Edward M. House.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, let's pull that Wikipedia up.

[A]

It's in that fucking movie.

[B]

The King's man Edward Mandel House was an American diplomat and an advisor to President Woodrow Wilson. He was known as Colonel House, although his title was honorary and he had performed no military service. He was a highly influential backroom politician in Texas before becoming a key supporter of the presidential candidate Wilson in 1912 by managing his campaign beginning in July 1911. Having a self effacing manner, he did not hold office but was an executive agent Wilson's chief advisor on European politics and diplomacy. Here it is. During World War I he became a government official as one of the five American commissioners to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919. In 1919, Wilson broke with House and many other top advisors believing they had deceived him at Paris. Despite his influence, House remained a controversial figure. Criticized for operating behind the scenes without accountability, for his role in a flawed post war settlement, and for promoting a technocratic anti democratic vision of governance.

[A]

So this scheme, by the way, H.G. wells is in on it.

[B]

H.G. wells is in on it?

[A]

Yes. Wait, the things to come. If you go on YouTube, the movie's up. It's his 1938 techno fascist fucking future movie by H E. Well, yeah, it was from H.G.

[B]

Wells, but he was in on it with this guy.

[A]

Well, it's all part of the same thing. They're part of the. The Cecil Rhodes round. All it is is, is Cecil Rhodes idea of how England should extend everywhere It's. And that's so soft power would be. Yeah, culture, like the Beatles, Remember the British Invasion kind of shit?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So are these psyops like. Yes, all the things that you like are psyops.

[B]

All of them.

[A]

What do you think a psyop is? Let's say the Beatles. Beatles were entirely their own steam doing it. They were psyop, even if it's on their behalf. A psyop is merely marketing the thing. That's a regular thing that you would do normally if you were a band or anything, you would do PR and marketing.

[B]

But a psyop implies that it wouldn't naturally be able to do it itself without having a push for psychological reasons from the government to try and manipulate.

[A]

Listen, you see the videos of chicks going to see the Beatles. Okay. Do you think the government, if they're not at the base of it from the beginning, do you think they wouldn't study that effect?

[B]

Oh, I think they would totally study the effect, yeah.

[A]

You don't think they would try to replicate and then.

[B]

Yes, absolutely.

[A]

Get in the 60s.

[B]

Absolutely, yes.

[A]

It's only the kids of Air Force.

[B]

Oh yeah, like Keith Moore. Who is it?

[A]

You know, Zappa's dad? You know, Frank Zappa's dad? Arsenal arms, what they did. That's what Jacob's ladder's about.

[B]

I don't know that one. No. Yo, Jim Morrison's dad was CIA, right? I didn't make that up.

[A]

Right. No, he was the colonel that faked the Gulf of Tonkin shit.

[B]

Oh, that's even better.

[A]

So it's all these. Okay, so the arsenal arms, how they tested on troops was. It wasn't no lsd, it was. You Know Benadryl?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, with a Hat man drug, where you see the Hat Man?

[B]

Because it's the hat man.

[A]

Yeah. If you go on Earowy's drug vault, people that take Benadryl, there's a trip you get. That sounds like the worst I've ever take.

[B]

Too much of it. Yeah.

[A]

It's like. Do you like seeing spiders in a sinister figure in a black hat?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah, There you go. So. So if you read. And there are people that have just taken Benadryl like an. And they see this guy, they're like, it's the worst. I'm gonna take some.

[B]

You're nodding. That. That. Not. I didn't like.

[A]

By the way, think of if you were doing. Doing Benadryl after that and on purpose, think of, like, what your life is that made you do that. What were you. What are you medicating that. That would be a thing you got to do anyway. At Arsenal Arms, what the military did was they took the Benadryl chemical and they fucking distilled it. So at the peak of a terrible Benadryl trip, which is one of the worst things that you could ever experience, you're peaking for two weeks straight on Benadryl. That's what Jacob's Ladder was about.

[B]

There's no way you don't run off a building if that's.

[A]

Dude. Lsd, I would much. Please. If you have to test a thing that I'm not prepared for me, a LSD and not Benadryl for two weeks. Like, I don't know if you ever did any kind of psychedelics, but just.

[B]

Imagine that I did ayahuasca.

[A]

Okay. For two weeks straight. It lasted.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, and also, it wasn't ayahuasca. It was Benadryl. So you got to see a Freddy Krueger, you know, the Hat Man. Depending on what country you're from, he'll have your regional hat on. Do you know that? That's the thing.

[B]

Todd was, like, calculating and then, yo.

[A]

If you got a fucking sombrero, he'll have a. Whatever. Whatever it is. Your hat of your people. The hat man will be wearing that hat. Is that fucking weird?

[B]

It's. It's pretty weird.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The hats are different shapes. Like, there's one. I can tell there's one Italian one down there. There's more of a, like, Northern European one. The third from the left.

[A]

I've never seen the Hat Man.

[B]

There's one that looks more British on the Batman down there.

[A]

If you do Benadryl, that's how you see the hat man, it seems like it sucks on every level, but they test it on people. I don't know what happened in people. They put it on. I don't know how I would do on that. Not. Not well.

[B]

But you were saying to get into this, you were. You were talking about everything you love is a psyop. And I think I agree with where you ended up going on that human.

[A]

Nature'S programmability, which is that when things.

[B]

Actually are popular, like something genuine, then people in power can use that model to try to create something even that's not as good.

[A]

I would never say that Taylor Swift is not a natural talent. Taylor Swift is just a great talent, obviously, and should be as huge as it is. And you should base your life on her, but not remember what happened at the concert.

[B]

I think, I think the. I think the cults around people like that is crazy. The thing is though. And I've heard people talk. Right. Hold on one sec, hold on. Before we get to K pop, I've heard people talk about this with Taylor Swift and stuff. And I'm not like a Taylor Swift guy or anything like that, but she is a brilliant songwriter. Like, I cannot take that from her.

[A]

I enjoy wood. A lot of people are criticizing her new song would. About her boyfriend's dick. I haven't heard it, but I imagine it's like his dick is good like wood. That's how I would. That's how I would. Where I would take it myself. It's amazing. And also, I don't know who's listening to Taylor Swift. Is it like.

[B]

I mean, it's.

[A]

What age of woman is listening to her?

[B]

It's a lot of teenage girls. And now it's a lot of. It's a. Now there's some that have grown up with her. So you're talking about Gen Z.

[A]

Young or old enough for a gay following. So it's got to be she's not.

[B]

Young or old enough for a gay following.

[A]

She's like. Right.

[B]

She was like peak, like gay following season.

[A]

She was.

[B]

Yeah. She came up in like 07.0607.

[A]

Yeah, but. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, then. But then there's a. And then there was a time when. Remember she was for Nazis because the alt. Right. Like they related her to milk.

[B]

I don't remember this. Right. Was relating Taylor Swift to Milk.

[A]

Oh my God, dude. Back in 20. It was like before Charlottesville.

[B]

Oh, wow. They were early adopters.

[A]

Yeah. Well, do you see what you do? You get Like a Taylor Swift. Oh, yeah, there you go. Nobody remembers this. Do you notice that? Life is like a Taylor Swift concert. You don't remember a lot of it. That's what I noticed. How could anyone forget this? So. Okay, so. So. Look at how crazy Taylor Swift is.

[B]

A star of many faces, known variously as country music darling. A pop music sensation, a forlorn damsel, the powerful leader of her girl squad, and perhaps above all else, a savvy marketer. Less well known is her reputation within the alt right, where she's become the objection of affection for white supremacists. As the founder of a now underground neo Nazi website put it, the entire alt right patiently awaits the day when we can lay down our swords and kneel before her throne as she commands us to go forth and slaughter the subhuman enemies of the Aryan race.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

Keep in mind, she doesn't. She does not approve of that. I can assure you that.

[A]

Well, keep in mind this is before Sydney Sweeney's big white titties.

[B]

Oh, Sydney.

[A]

Before her racist titties were on that jean commercial.

[B]

So, so basically you're saying Taylor Swift walk so Sydney Sweeney could run.

[A]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Thank you, Julie. That's exactly what I'm trying to say. Taylor Swift walks so that Sydney Sweeney could run. Painfully. Now why would she be in a jeans commercial? She's not an ass based celebrity.

[B]

I don't, I don't, I don't.

[A]

You know, there was no ass shot. It was just purple jean jacket.

[B]

Yeah, but it's the front.

[A]

People are imagining they push their tits together to look like ass. Yeah, and. And then people were shocked by her.

[B]

We go through eras of this, Kurt. There's eras of the ass and errors of the tits.

[A]

No, it's astral. I think it's astrological.

[B]

It's astrological.

[A]

I've sensed a long time ago that we're moving out of a Greta Thunberg phase into more of a Hoktua phase.

[B]

Please explain.

[A]

Just the signs.

[B]

Those are not the women I was.

[A]

Do you follow Crypto? I'm in hock to a coin. Are you a crypto guy or a fighter? What are you a fighter?

[B]

Wait, you still got to explain this. You can't go from ass to titties to like fucking remember?

[A]

Why? Mother and soft mother with the. With the experiments with like the monkey and it. There's like a wire mother who is like hard but the provider of food. And then a soft mother. You never heard of that shit? That experiment they do with chimps.

[B]

Yeah. I told you. You're here to teach me today, Kurt.

[A]

Well, good. I'm here then.

[B]

All right. What is this? What should we be Googling on in advertising?

[A]

If you notice, it was a long time. We had an ass focused culture for a while.

[B]

Yeah, would agree.

[A]

And then Sydney Sweeney, all of a sudden, now we're going back to a tidbase culture.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So is that telling you to breed again? They're telling you not to breed for a while and now they're like, nope, we're back to breeding again. Titties.

[B]

Wait, why is ass telling you not to breed?

[A]

Because you can't make a baby that way.

[B]

Sure you can. If you're hitting it from behind, you're still going front door. I mean, you go back door.

[A]

Not front door. No, back door.

[B]

If you're selling women's asses in public, I mean, you shouldn't be selling anything.

[A]

But, I mean, what if you can't sell women's asses in public? That's the end of, like, most industries, yo. Sketching, Shape Ups. Would have never happened. The Winston catchers made ass shaping.

[B]

You know, Fucking psyop. Kurt believes in selling sex. Just throw that on the record.

[A]

Wait, look, it's like if you go, I believe in rainbows. Like, that's a thing that exists, right? Yeah, they.

[B]

I'm not judging you, Kurt. I'm just, you know.

[A]

Well, I don't believe in it. Like, I swear by it. I believe in it that it exists.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You see, there's a difference.

[B]

There's a spectrum I got you. I wouldn't find on this chimp experiment.

[A]

Well, just put wire mother, soft mother.

[B]

Wire mother, soft mother.

[A]

Yeah, experiment. It'll come up. I can't believe you heard of that, right?

[B]

No, no, Scott.

[A]

I guess I'm a. There you go.

[B]

Harry. Harlow Theory and Rhesus Monkey Experiments in psychology. Harlow 1958 study wanted to study the mechanisms by which newborn Reese's monkeys bond with their mothers. These infants depended highly on their mothers for nutrition, protection, comfort and socialization. What exactly though, was the basis of the bond? The learning theory of attachment suggests that an infant would form an attachment with a kit with a carer who provides food. In contrast, Harlow explained that attachment develops due to the mother providing tactile comfort, suggesting that infants have an innate biological need to touch and cling to something for emotional comfort. Cloth mother versus wire mother experiment. Here it is. Harlow separated infant monkeys from their mothers immediately after birth and placed in cages with access to two surrogate Mothers, one made of wire and one covered in soft terrac toweling cloth. In the first group, the terry cloth mother provided no food, while the wire mother did in the form of an attached baby bottle containing milk. Both groups of monkeys spent more time with the cloth mother, even if she had no milk.

[A]

Milk.

[B]

The infant would only go to the wire mother when hungry. Once fed, it would return to the cloth mother for most of the day. If a frightening object was placed in the cage, the infant took refuge with the cloth mother, its safe base. This surrogate was more effective in decreasing.

[A]

My head's really cold.

[B]

The infant would explore more when the cloth mother was present. This supports the evolutionary theory of attachment in that the sensitive response and security of a caregiver are important as opposed to the provision of food. Part of this, and this is just.

[A]

Me, like, what do you think they did to people? That shit they just do to monkeys. But, I mean, you already know they sprayed cadmium on black kids, right? Oh, also in San Francisco, they sprayed shit. Wherever you live, they sprayed some shit on you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just to see what it would do. So wire mother is the one. People need contact. So in the. In the quest to make killers, you know, people that would kill when they're told to kill. We got kindergarten and various programs of abuse, all that. Super Soldier, the part they don't tell you is the vicious abuse. It's not as glamorous, you know?

[B]

Right.

[A]

But it's in a lot of movies. I just watched Gray man with what's.

[B]

His head, Ryan Gosling.

[A]

Gray man, that's. They. They hint at it all the time in movies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's public, right? Like, it's not a secret thing. You're just not gonna look for it?

[B]

Well, that guy they pulled out of prison, who, Gray man, right? Movie, yeah. Wasn't it like, he killed someone when he was 15 for abusing somebody or something? Maybe I'm remembering this wrong. Correct me in the comments. And then he's in prison and they come in.

[A]

I. I don't remember that.

[B]

But Billy Bob Thorton's like, son, I'm going to bring you out, commute your sentence, but you're going to kill for us now.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, I think that's what it. Can we pull up the. The plot on Wicked?

[A]

Jamie, pull that up.

[B]

Jamie.

[A]

Jamie. What is a toy?

[B]

So you're not going to interview the head of Mossad on your show? That's not in the cards for you.

[A]

I don't want no trouble. Let me tell you something. Israel is just doing what it has to do. Let me make something clear to everyone. Now, I know Saudi Arabia, they're bad, but it's real Israel. You guys are right to complain about Saudi Arabia. Fucking Petraeus is sitting down with ISIS in a fucking Barbara Walters interview. I mean, do you see how stupid that is?

[B]

Like, pretty dumb. All right, I just want to say the first paragraph for the plot so that we don't. We don't spoil it. Thief. Just go down to plot on Wikipedia, if you would. All right, top of the plot. In 2003, senior CIA official Donald Fitzroy visits a prisoner named Cortland Gentry in Florida. Eight years earlier, Cortland was a minor convicted of killing his abusive father. To protect his brother. Fitzroy offers him his freedom in exchange for working as an assassin in CIA Sierra Program, an elite black eye ops unit which will allow him to exist in the gray.

[A]

So a bunch of these people. So here's. Now I can't confirm this at all. This is just like a thing that I heard. Okay.

[B]

Just a thing you heard?

[A]

Yeah. I want to make it clear.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's not. But Jennifer Garner, supposedly from one of them families in that show. She was on Alias. Yeah, but apparently it's about thinking you're in the CIA, but you weren't. You're in some creepy group that was infiltrating the CIA. Yeah, that. Her. Her life is apparently something like that. Monarch was to make sports heroes actors. So why you think Kanye's like that? Why you think fucking Britney's like that? Think of secret societies. They're not secret. You know about them, but they have a lot of secrets. Why? Why are you in that? Why would you be in that? Like, why would you be in a frat?

[B]

I don't know. My guess would be they want to feel like they're a part of some sort of secret pun intended. Secret elite organization that has information that everyone else doesn't and feel special about it and get connections and money and power. Like, I don't know if it's like, favorite.

[A]

Did you go Could. Okay. You must have known people that were in some kind of cool. Like. Or. Or really, like. What's that movie, American Psycho frats. Did you know any American Psychos in your days of Wall street where you're like, wow, you just.

[B]

Wall street was actually very tame compared to what the stereotype was. It wasn't. I know for a fact it wasn't that way before I got there. But post Dodd Frank, it really got a lot more tame.

[A]

So I know Barney Frank, repealed Dodd Frank, Barney Frank was key in repealing Dodd Frank.

[B]

Repealing it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When did, when the fuck did it get repealed?

[A]

A while ago. No, nobody cares.

[B]

Pull that up. Barney Frank repealed while I was there.

[A]

That law fucking yeah, Barney Frank also Barney Frank was in the D.C. callboy scandal.

[B]

All right, hold on one second. I wanted one thing at a time. It was Dodd Frank repealed. God, that was the worst. Oh my God. You couldn't take a shit at a bank without asking permission for toilet paper. It was insane. Dodd Frank.

[A]

There you go. Barney Frank repeal.

[B]

All right, the Barney Frank. Where does it say Barney Frank and the collapse of Signature Bank? Can you pull up? Was. Did you just Google was Dodd Frank.

[A]

You know what? Bank has never collapsed.

[B]

No, no, not Barney Frank, just Google. Was Dodd Frank repealed? Let's do that. Perfect. Okay. So no, the Dodd Frank act was not repealed though key provisions were rolled.

[A]

Okay. It's the same as appealed. You rolled back the part that's important. That's.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, but that's why, that's why while I was still there, and I can tell you because part of this, and this may not be directly what it's referring to, but there was a Department of labor law that came out towards the end of Obama's presidency that kind of built on top of this. And Trump rolled a lot of that stuff back. But banks self regulated in many cases and kept a lot of those provisions because they assumed, I think that they were going to come back. They legal departments were like, well, it's not worth the risk. So the damage was done. I mean, you couldn't do it like to be.

[A]

I just like that. Barty Frank is instrumental in that. His own thing.

[B]

Kurt. To be clear, the banks should have been punished like crazy for 2008.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

But they should have been punished in the departments that did that. What the government did wrong, in my opinion is like when you say Wall street, right? There's a lot of scummy sections of that, of course, but Wall street is 50 million different things. Things.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

So when you then punish this over here, you're just punishing like a customer who's trying to get money from their bank on a Tuesday.

[A]

They're gonna punish them first before they get to anybody who's really doing it.

[B]

No one went to prison for that, as they shouldn't.

[A]

Much like when we found out. Oh, in Tragedy and Hope, here's a great detail. Prescott Bush, who people said supported was like financially supporting the Nazi. And it wasn't him, it was Rockefeller.

[B]

And we didn't Mean, it wasn't him. He was supporting them.

[A]

Yeah, of course he supported him, but it was Rockefeller that. He was taking the blame for most of it for Rockefeller. And don't worry. He. It was fine. He ended up being fine. But, guys, don't worry about him. He's okay.

[B]

All right? Now, what were you saying about Barney Frank? I was cutting you off there.

[A]

So the. The call boy scandal.

[B]

Yeah, what was this?

[A]

So potential spam.

[B]

Is that the Israelis?

[A]

Hello? Maybe they've. Maybe they've seen the error of their ways and they want to start paying me some sweet Hasbro. I want some of that Hasbro money. I'll say whatever you want.

[B]

7,000 a post.

[A]

Those kids brought it on themselves. I don't want to go to Riyadh. I'll stay right here and say anything you motherfuckers want.

[B]

Oh, my God. All right.

[A]

Call.

[B]

Call boy scandal.

[A]

So, yeah, so of course, during the George H.W. term or lane the rain, there's tons of gay scandals. Everybody's fucking gay for some reason.

[B]

George H.W. bush was gay.

[A]

I don't think. I wouldn't call it gay. I. I believe what's in that book in Transformation America, which is. He's. It's just gotta be young.

[B]

He's just what?

[A]

I think he was a dirty p. I think he was. Every awful thing you could imagine is what I think about that fucker H.W. bush. Here's the things we just know. The crack epidemic was him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So after you know that, we have that because of him. Oh, also his grandpa took the hit of supporting Nazi. Who also supported Nazis, but took the hit for Rockefeller of supporting the Nazis. And the. The what. What's the Smedley Butler thing? Where the. The. Where they tried to overthrow. They wanted to put in a fascist government. That's Prescott.

[B]

Yep. Yep.

[A]

Oh, it's okay. His.

[B]

What? 1937. 1930.

[A]

But luckily, two generations of his family were the president. Is everybody crazy that they don't understand how crazy?

[B]

Like also Skull and Bones, which is.

[A]

That's what Illuminati really is.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Well, what I call it is. It's like. Like Ciroc. Like it's bigger in the 70s. Yeah. Like it's a brand in decline. So it's more for black people now. What? I don't even know. It's Jay Z's Ciroc. You understand? Jay Z. Ciroc. What does. I had.

[B]

Like, that was like. That wasn't a left turn. That was like you. You went from a car to a.

[A]

You know about Ciroc?

[B]

Yes, I know about Circumcision.

[A]

It's a Brandon decline. Did he goes, let me rel. No, he didn't own it. You thought he owned it. Diageo owns it. The people that own Guinness and all the liquor.

[B]

But he. But he was the promoter for it, right?

[A]

He had some ownership, but the appearance was that he owned it. But no, he didn't own it. Like 50, I think owns his shit. I don't think Diddy did. I know he didn't. Diageo is British. It's not Italian.

[B]

No, but what does that have to do with Skull and Bones and Illuminati?

[A]

These are brands. So just think of brands. So Skull and Bones, Jay Z, if you recall. And people these work for him, say this. They're not saying, like deep occult things. They're just going, no, he definitely played into that. He goes, put Illuminati. Because I want people to say, I think I'm an Illumina. That's his brand. Was doing that.

[B]

So all that would make sense. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so this is what I'm talking about. That's like a normal thing. That's a form of programming.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

So that's what I mean. He took the brand Illuminati, which was like a really a 70s thing and is a George H.W. bush thing. That's not that cool. That's what. That's what those fuckers are. That's what Skull and Bones is. Okay? There's lots of groups. It's not just one fucking group. And I'll bet you there's two or three groups called Illuminati that don't know. You know what I mean? Like, that don't. The names don't mean anything. And you learn in tragedy and hope. That's what he said. He goes, you're just trying to get into fraternal groups like a virus. And then you take them over, okay? That's the whole. The whole plan. And so people that are cool. So think of the Hell's Angels. If I got a filthy few patch, that the Hell's Angels will say, he stayed, laid it apart. You've heard this over and over. That means you stayed, latest at a party. But the feds go, no, that means that you killed someone for the club. That's how all the clubs work, okay? So if you want real power, you're going to be part of all of them. You're going to be part of like 20 things that you would think you wouldn't be part of.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Because you want. You got a network. So they did, and then what? Dude, think of, like, New York. Like, when did you. How long were you around? Where are you from originally?

[B]

South Jersey west and Moloka Hill. Oh, right outside Philly.

[A]

Oh, Don's River.

[B]

You're tons river guy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Some of my best friends are in Brick.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Brick. I used to manage the Funko Land in the Brick plaza.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

It's GameStop now.

[B]

Yeah, my buddy lives right around the corner from that.

[A]

Yeah, well, so just think of, like, if anybody, you know, that was, like, trying to get coke or something. Like, New York is a place where you find whatever the you want.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Go out, like, just lick your finger. Go like this. Hold it to the way.

[A]

I would be like, was it Undercover Billionaire where they drop the billionaire off and they have to make a certain amount of money? Dude, I get. If you like, undercover junkie. Like, you could drop me off of five bucks.

[B]

You could pass.

[A]

Don't worry. You drop me off in any city.

[B]

You look the part, you'll be all right.

[A]

I put this shiesty on, people know what's up.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I had put something in my pipe.

[B]

All right, Kurt. What. What do you. Are we ever going to know the truth about Epstein in any capacity?

[A]

Like, how could we ever know?

[B]

20% of it.

[A]

I know it was a certain Middle Eastern country, but that's all.

[B]

Couldn't name which one it was.

[A]

There's a trail of breadcrumbs, but it's a hall of mirrors. Julia, don't waste your time on this one. You're in over your head, kid. I wonder. Yo, look up on Tuesdays with Stories, which is Norman and Sam's podcast. They got Lewis Black on going Epstein's house with Bobby from the Dirt. Nasty show. Bobby. I'm blanking out. No, no, no, no. Not Bobby. Kelly. Bobby. He's Kennedy with Robert F. Kennedy. No, I'm blanking out, but you can find the clip. And he's talking about going to Epstein's house in New York, and he said he walked in and Epstein there was like, a marker board and had, like. It looked like, I don't know, football plays or something. And he's like, yeah, the. The Defense Ministry of Israel is just here. We're just going over defense plans. And Lewis Black goes like. I was so freaked out. I go, first of all, number one, why was he here? Okay, and why are you telling me this? Why are you telling me any of this? And it creeped him the fuck out. So right There is. How you know who he worked for? It's actually on a comedy podcast. It's.

[B]

The Defense Ministry of Israel was just here, and we were drawing up some plays.

[A]

Yeah, like, dude, is everybody a fucking idiot? So the only people. Look.

[B]

Oh, oh, we got the clip. Does it have music in the background? Thief. That's the only thing I want to check.

[A]

Bobby will feel hurt. I can't remember his last name, but I had four claws.

[B]

All right, we're good. All right, let's play it. This is Lewis Black. Whose podcast is this again? We might be drunk. We might be drunk. Sam Morel and who? Mark Norman. Mark Norman. Okay, go ahead. Good find, Boot.

[A]

I was in Jeffrey Epstein's house once. What?

[B]

Yes, with Bobby Slayton.

[A]

God damn.

[B]

When they got up to go to the bathroom, did he smell the seed?

[A]

How is Jeffrey Epstein's house?

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

I mean, but what was the occasion?

[B]

Bobby Slayton. I. Woody Allen and Soon Yi. Oh, my God. Looks like a Mad Libs. Holy moly.

[A]

It is the Chib.

[B]

Very good one. There was Dick Cat.

[A]

Wow. And I can't think of his name.

[B]

I can see him. How do you get invited to Epstein's? Slayton called me up and said, you know, he really likes comics. But Bobby goes. He's got really unbelievable wine.

[A]

We're gonna drink really great.

[B]

I said, okay. Get this place for wine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it was his bottle. 16 years. The capper of the evening is a very, very end. David Blaine shows up. Whoa. Yeah. Can you make these charges disappear?

[A]

This is not the right clip.

[B]

Israeli defense.

[A]

It's on this episode.

[B]

Lewis Black, Epstein, Israeli. I mean, it is. Let. Let's just be honest here. Like, jokes aside, it is so obvious, like, who he worked for and the fact that people then are like, oh, we just can't talk. Like, what the fuck, dude?

[A]

I think you should watch your mouth. And maybe we just buried Charlie Kirk, and I think he shouldn't be throwing out crazy conspiracies right now. I think it's really tasteless. Especially Charlie Kirk and the miracle bone in his neck. That stopped at 30 on 6. Then that's the official story, by the way. The official story.

[B]

I'll see you in Valhalla, brother.

[A]

Hey, what did the Hindu say to the dead Christian see in Valhalla? Don't get it. Me neither. I don't get it neither.

[B]

In front of the Mormon.

[A]

In front of the Mormon. Is that crazy? Oh, you know. So the Zorro Ranch. I want to get. I want to get a. A Ron on my show on the derp with Kirk.

[B]

Oh, Aaron Smith Levin.

[A]

Because, dude, why is everybody.

[B]

You want me to hook it up?

[A]

Yeah, I. I messy. So I'll. Any comments I make are all on YouTube videos now. Never. I try to never do Twitter.

[B]

Oh, good for you. Yeah, I noticed you don't tweet a lot now. Yeah, I was looking at that.

[A]

Sometimes I do tweet more. Kurt, if I comment on these, on people's videos as I do, it helps that, like, I'm not hurting them, the engagement's helping them do. I mean, it's a more positive thing because I'll watch something and be like, what the fuck are you fucking talking about?

[B]

Right?

[A]

But not Aaron. I like that guy, Aaron. But anyway, have they figured out that that's a CIA cut out yet? That Scientology? Why do you think the stars were in it?

[B]

I would buy that. I mean, you know, I don't. I don't know whether that's true or false. I would totally. If someone could show me evidence on that, I would totally buy it. Well, I mean, look at what they do. The irs. Like, what the fuck?

[A]

So you think if you ever infiltrated the IRS with your little group, do you think the government and you did it successfully?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you think the government would ever leave you alone after you pulled off something like that? And also, first of all, not only being impressed with that you pulled that off. Well, we're gonna learn how to do that from you, and we're gonna. Whatever. And so if you watch David Miscavige, you know who's a bad. Of course he's the bad guy. But what's his origin story? He was raising as a kid and he was a rising star.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Inside. What. What the are you talking about? Have you ever heard of a. A thing like that where, like, a child is a rising star? So he's probably a chosen one too, that little. He's probably one of them chosen ones. That's what monarch was. They told him they were chosen ones.

[B]

Chosen.

[A]

And after we get the fucking thing installed, you're going to be ruling over. It's very much like ancient Egypt, where you got a corrupt priest class and a pharaoh dress up like a fucking idiot that they inbred for generations, right? They inbred them for the trait of dissociation.

[B]

That's why they did it. They knew about that.

[A]

Dude, it's like Dune. You know in Dune, remember when Paul Atreides puts his hands in the box right? On J R. Sweets block? He wrote about it when he. On his birth so on his birthday, or I don't know whose birthday it was, they had a ventriloquist show up who was part of the program. Okay. And then afterwards, they played a game called what's in the Box? So.

[B]

Oh, like seven?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

What's in the box?

[A]

Okay. Yeah, a lot like seven, actually.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But more like Dune, where she had to put his hand in the box and not react to the pain. So him and his brothers and sisters each went in and looked in the box and there's a severed human, a real severed human hand in the box. Okay. So his brothers and sisters mostly screamed because they saw a human hand. But him and his other brother, he said, dissociated. They're like, this is not happening. It's all that is, is like, this is not happening. You just go somewhere else. Well, you've been really bored and you went somewhere else. The most. The biggest gift of a power you could ever get genetically, is to, like, when really bad shit happens, you leave your foot. I worked in TV a long time. I heard this saying over and over from people of something cringey. And they go, I left my body. I bet they did, dude. I bet you did.

[B]

I blacked out up there.

[A]

Feet freeze or what is it flight or fight or whatever the fuck. They've studied those. And that's what all that Nazi science that we got those paperclip Nazis over here.

[B]

That's what it was.

[A]

Well, a lot of great. Oh, my God. We got a lot of useful from those Nazis.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, NASA did it.

[A]

Yo. The first head of NASA Devil Werner von Braun. No, it's not. It's Debus. D E B U S. Colonel. Yeah. Davis, NASA don't like to talk about it because he. He has one of them dueling scars that what's her name brings up.

[B]

Annie. Annie Jacobson. Yeah.

[A]

Davis, NASA.

[B]

Right here.

[A]

D E B U S. Because they would fight. David. Wait, where's the. You gotta put NASA, I think. I don't know if it's colonel actually. I might just. Yeah. Dr. Kurt. Kurt.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I've heard her talk.

[A]

Look at. Look at his face, dude. He's got the.

[B]

Yep, there it is right on the.

[A]

So there's your first. And that's the boss.

[B]

Davis was the first director of NASA's John F. Kennedy Space center in Florida from July 1962 until November 1974. He was born in Frankfurt, Germany. Earned his advance. Let's see where this bio goes. Earn his advanced degrees in mechanical engineering, electrical engineering at the Technical University of Darmstadt in 1939, he obtained his engineering doctorate with a thesis on surge voltages and was appointed leading engineer and assistant professor at the university. From 1939 to 1943, Debus served as a chief instructor in the department of theoretical electrical Engineering on high tension and measuring techniques at the university. I'll bet he was just at the university. Debus was studying at the university when Adolf Hitler became the German Chancellor in 1933. From 33 to 36, Debus was a member of the SA. The. No. The paramilitary group associated with the Nazi party during its rise to power in Germany in 1939. The head of that guy was like. Was. Was like also gay. And I think Hitler killed him.

[A]

Okay, you gotta understand.

[B]

Hold on. In early 1939, he applied to the SS Divas's official membership in the Nazi party is difficult to determine with available evidence. I bet it's very difficult to determine.

[A]

Just look at his face.

[B]

Look at his face. Available archival records indicate that he never joined the Nazi party and therefore his SS membership remained in the applicant status.

[A]

I hope you're capturing my jerk off motion I'm making. I hope this motion is picking up. There's not really any of it.

[B]

Put that pipe back in. Are you hiding Nazis under the sea floor, bud?

[A]

You see, I'm more of a detective. I'd like a glass of milk and I'd like to.

[B]

You're delicious.

[A]

He orders a. He asks her for a glass of milk. That's one of the greatest performance I've ever seen.

[B]

Dude. It's. It is a top five movie of all time for me. It's number four or five.

[A]

So he was the commanding officer of Werner von Braun. And Von Braun said I can't possibly be okay without my commanding officer here to. So that's what NASA is. So NASA doesn't just do space, they do inner space. Okay. So the stuff they did in the basement in NASA was real wild. And. And that's where. And these are just continuations and not. But this shit's way older than Nazis. That the thing that J.R. sweet describes of the bot. What's in the box where he just. That's Paul Atreides has to dissociate, right? He's in the box, his hands being hurt. If he makes any emotional reaction, he'll be killed. It sounds so much like that. It's crazy. Where I'm like, how did Frank Herbert know? You know? Because you know Frank Herbert and the Lord of the Rings got. Well, Lord of the Rings. I didn't like Dune. What's his. Yeah. Tolkien's a. I think he's a Rosicrucian. His son became a. Went on to be a Pedo priest. Christopher Tolkien. Maybe not Christopher. I don't know which suck.

[B]

Why are all the people who do really cool?

[A]

Because the ultimate secret of the 33rd degree.

[B]

Oh, the maze. You're going Mason on me now?

[A]

All of them. I'm just gonna tell you. You don't have to never join a mystery school. I'll tell you their secret. The ultimate. Ready for this?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A hole is a hole.

[B]

A hole is a hole.

[A]

The thing that the richest and like prisoners know.

[B]

So like a mouth is a mouth when it goes down.

[A]

That's exactly right. That's the secret. And it sounds stupid, but they're not looking at it like it's gay or something. It's all about charging your iPhone. Do you understand? Once you look at this shit as a power exchange, which is how they do that's just showing you could take power. I need to power up my real quick. Like Diddy was ran off of.

[B]

That makes sense.

[A]

You know, dude bought power for many years and now luckily, you know, nothing came of the Epstein thing. But did. He's coming home. At least we have. We could be thankful for certain things.

[B]

Oh, yeah. You knew he was going to be not found. Not guilty.

[A]

Not. I'm sure other people must have known who know that. That what's her name. Was it Maureen's daughter? I don't think it's Maureen. I think her name's something else, but maybe it's Maureen. Yeah, she's on the Ghislaine trial. Yeah, they're there to clean up the thing. I have a joke about like, why you know that Nickelodeon allowed to do that? I mean, why would she allow you this time?

[B]

Now Trump's there. You would think he'd be like, we have a comey on the case.

[A]

Trump's in the thing. There's not like. It's not like.

[B]

I think I agree with you, dude.

[A]

There's plenty of factions if you ever saw Game of Thrones. That's how they operate. Yeah, right. And. Oh, who are they? Well, I don't know. Why do you keep track of who's royal still? Like maybe start there.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

You know, in England now. Oh, here's another thing for real. If you're salty about the Riyadh Comedy Festival, I don't know what the fuck anybody's talking about, dude. You know, England's got about 6,000 people in prison now. They. I don't know if they've been sentenced yet. I don't think they have been, but for tweets, they've been arrested.

[B]

Insane.

[A]

So shut up about free speech. First of all, in Saturday. What are you talking about? Yeah, in uk, they got people more than Russia, more than Putin has ever imprisoned.

[B]

It's crazy. I don't. I don't know about that, but either.

[A]

Way, no, it's a fact.

[B]

It's. I. I don't. I don't know about that.

[A]

Yeah, no, you know how I do know about it? How do you know about that?

[B]

Do we. Do we have stats coming out of Russia that are in any way like.

[A]

Yo, you can find a. I'll give you the clip because I got to give it to.

[B]

Either way.

[A]

The fact that Constantine from. What do you call it? The trigonometry, who's normally I would call a silly goose, he dropped it on a dude in interview because people honestly don't fucking know. But, yo, they just got their digital ID and Keir Starmer and guess what? China got theirs the same week. Talk about.

[B]

Look, it's very scary to me that, like, a modicum of like. Like the west, you know?

[A]

What is this west shit? All the things I hate, I want to point out, and if you love the west that you don't like, they came out of the West. Oh, you don't like communism? That didn't come from muzzies, did it? No, that came from the West. So you bred your own fucking shit you hate, motherfucker. I guess it's not as great as you said it was.

[B]

Was Karl Marx from the west where.

[A]

You think he's from? You think he's Japanese?

[B]

No, but was he considered from the West?

[A]

Wasn't quite Germany. I don't know how Germany considered the.

[B]

West, so I guess that's the West.

[A]

No, but that's the reason that you wouldn't even think of it like that is because you're not supposed to. Oh, wait, Karl Marx is the wet. Yo, how come all these other people that yap about the west aren't. Don't know. You know what I mean? Like, they don't go, hey, well, I.

[B]

Guess the West, I think it's more looking at it based on my modern culture where it is now. Which is not to say the west doesn't have significant problems. Of course it does. That's not to say I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here, but, like, if you look.

[A]

At it versus the baby, it's a. It's a made up thing. The angle is New World order is not a thing that Alex Jones made up. It's a thing that you heard in speeches from all the presidents. They still say it. They call it the rules based order. You've had people on the west, the post World War II order. What are you talking about? What is that? What is that? Well, I don't know why the Earth is Highlander rules and there can be only one. But they say it over and over. Condoleezza Rice just said it. She goes, you want Russia and China to win. All these people have game theory out the future to like obviously there's going to be one and she got to be us. And, and they, they'll say it. But then you try to pin them down like no, I'm not saying. But they are saying that what is the point of this shit?

[B]

I think people always have a need to have an enemy. And I think, I mean I don't think that that's human nature.

[A]

I don't think I do. I think it's like the amount of sugar they put in stuff. I don't think I did need all that. I think you just put it in there.

[B]

I think people in large groups throughout human history if you want to control that brand new. I think people in large groups and group things throughout history have always craved an enemy. I don't, I can't think of one sustained long term example in human history where that wasn't the case. You know you could probably find 10 years somewhere in there if someone really wants to nitpick. But like look at a hunt any hundred year period in human history and tell me where there wasn't some sort of need for a massive war or conflict.

[A]

Wait. I'll tell you something that speaks to what you just said. I think it's Solomon Islands. But they had these wars where like you would have a feast and then like you look at the, they'd have a war now and if you were lower than me in the war, I wouldn't fight you. I would only fight a guy at my same station and then they would like eat a piece of guy. I Cameron was like, you'd eat the guy's leader and then they'd like, they put like you'd the guy out and they'd have like a platter and display.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Yeah, dude, there's a sol. I think it's Solomon Islands. I'm almost positive. Solomon Islands war. And it was like they, they weren't fighting over resources. It was purely for status.

[B]

Did you find Solomon's. He's pulling it right now.

[A]

Dude, I swear to God. It's a real. It's. It's a very interesting thing.

[B]

All right. Solomon Islands war refers to the intense prolonged six months battle canal. Yeah. No, it's not what you're looking for.

[A]

Dude. It's a really funny story. It's like so gross what they would do. And it was like a. It was almost like a. If they only that had the Internet, they could have kept it that. Because it was that kind of like. Like just.

[B]

This is not what you're looking for, right?

[A]

No, not at all. This is about World War II. Yeah. But there is an island of. Of. It's in the. It's like a west. Maybe it's not Solomon. I just up. But it. They. They had no reason for resources to go to war, but they had to go to war to establish like dominance and.

[B]

Interesting. De.

[A]

Can you.

[B]

You had that Lewis Black clip up. Can you leave our cameras on and play that? We're for copyright purposes. We are reacting to Ecliptus in context of our conversation right here. Pure YouTube community guidelines and creator guidelines for pure monetization on the video. Anyway, we'll keep the video off and people will be able to hear it. But I just want to hear that part you were referring to. Go ahead. This is from the we might Drunk podcast with Sam Morel and Mark Norman.

[A]

From the beginning, because it's like you.

[B]

Go in and he's got a wife.

[A]

A whiteboard, and there's all of this.

[B]

Stuff drawn on it. And he goes, you want me to tell you what that is? And I go, yeah, well, sure. Israeli Defense Minister here last night for dinner.

[A]

And then he's got me and Bobby Slayton. Are you me? And then he said. And so we were talking about.

[B]

He was showing me what kind of defense systems Israel would use in case of attack.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Oh. And I thought, you know what? First of. What is the Israeli Defense Minister? What the Is the matter? Why would you tell me this is already now. It's weird.

[A]

Yeah, weird.

[B]

But I know this was like a. Huh. Something is wrong in this house.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is a guy who's working on.

[A]

His defense many years before.

[B]

Here's. Here's the one thing. Right. Let's pause.

[A]

That's interesting.

[B]

This is the one thing when I hear stuff like this. And it's not a shot Lewis Black. It's a shot at literally all these people. People tell these stories now. Like, yeah, no was weird. No one thought to like, say something on Like, I don't know, late night with Jay Leno. Like, yeah, I went to this guy's house in New York. He was showing me.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

First of all, no one ever said anything before. It was a scandal.

[A]

Well, number one, anything involving Israel. Dude, what would. I want to make this clear to everybody, too. Like, as a huge supporter of Israel, they've done nothing wrong. I'm prejudice against Arabs and Muslims, as are all good people, okay? Don't think I'm one of these people that would ever listen to an Arab about any complaint about anything, okay? I'm not some scumbag Jews told me what's up over there. I would never on my own go look that up. Well, how would that help me to know the truth about it? It does not, I assure you, it does not help any showbiz shit. It don't help you. So I would never look into it or bring up some weird shit about Israel. I'd be like, well, the only reason I know about now is because they have fucked up. Here's how it's going to play out in the end, I think, okay? They're going to pin it all on Netanyahu. Like, it was all that one bad man's fault. That's how I think they're going to get out.

[B]

But his whole cabinet is somehow actually even worse than he is. So how do you pin it on just him?

[A]

Oh, dude, they were on the brink of civil war, but before, yeah, they were. So do you ever see the Bill Maher? Yeah, Bill Maher summing up makes me laugh because as. As. As a matter of public record, Bibi Bilbo fucking not a Juhu paid Hamas to exist. Right? That's not a secret. That's a thing he said as strategy. Okay? So that means it's your fault, asshole. That's how I take that. If I paid Al Qaeda to exist and they did 9 11, do you think I. I could get a nice Bill Maher? Like, he meant well. Watch what Bill Maher says. Actually, I take this.

[B]

Wait, Bill Maher said Bibi meant well by that.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's a club random clip. I mean, I believe you do Club randoms. Where the great. The great Bill Maher is. Because it's like him drunk just saying.

[B]

How he's saying what. What's for real.

[A]

Him talking about I Dream of Jeannie is a great one because he's like, surely you got harassed a lot. Because he's thinking about. He would have fucked her back in the day. And she's like, no, she's getting like. Why do you keep saying that? She's like offended. No, everybody's cool. Oh, come on with those. I can't do him. How Dungan Dunnigan does him really well. Have you heard Kyle Dunnigan's.

[B]

I've heard Kyle Dunnigan do.

[A]

This is my favorite Bill Mo.

[B]

Does Bill like that?

[A]

No.

[B]

No, he hates it.

[A]

No, he's really does not like it.

[B]

He doesn't like it at all.

[A]

You would think that he would like it because it. If somebody does a good impression of you, it shows some kind of element of care.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's pretty cool.

[A]

Did you ever see that's like how.

[B]

You know you made it? Someone's doing good impressions of you.

[A]

Well, when people start taking themselves seriously.

[B]

Especially when they're like, yeah, you can't do that.

[A]

Feel like a sex club rich guy.

[B]

Look, if you're in the entertainment business, you cannot take yourself so goddamn seriously. But so many people do. It's like, dude, if you make just a entertainer, bro.

[A]

Yeah, but I know a bunch of people. I work with every. All kinds of people. And like, it's not even. People are like bad or something. A lot of them, they're just like, you have no clue about anything. And why would you. If it's not in the interest of your. If it's not in your business interest, why would you even look into something? The only reason I would notice anything is like some not working or think, you know, some. Some disappointment that makes you have to notice something. Right back when 9, 11 happened, I lived in New York and you could have told me that the Iraq thing made no sense. But looking back now, of course it.

[B]

Makes sense that it made no sense.

[A]

I'm buddies with Jason Burmes, who is the first guy. Dude, I didn't know Building 7 was the third building until about two years ago. What? Norman. I asked Norman God, I knew about.

[B]

Building 7, like 05. I was like 10.

[A]

Dude. Mark Norman. I go, did you remember? Do you know Billy seven was like a third Billy. He didn't know neither he was. Dude, I was here when it happened in New York. And it. The emotional of it, you, it's. It's a perfect trauma based mind control is what it is. So you could tell. Show me all the evidence. I don't care. I'm. They spoke to me subconsciously already.

[B]

Right?

[A]

That's what. The thing that makes you make decisions.

[B]

There's something about. And we, you know, we just saw it again with the whole Literal public execution. Charlie Kirk. Something about the manuscript.

[A]

Why did I even see it? I tried to not. Dude, you know what's up is like when that happened, you tried to not.

[B]

See it, but you saw it.

[A]

My girl's like, oh, that, that video is up. What happens? I'm like, I don't want to see that. And I still saw it. Yeah, I don't remember what fucking platform, but yo, everybody was supposed to see it. That was very clear. When I was a kid and the Challenger blew up. It couldn't be more obvious. You remember the Challenger?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I mean I wasn't alive, but okay.

[A]

So I was in third grade in Mrs. McGarrell's class in Tom's river at this time. And I remember the weekly reader we had, we had like reading groups, you know, you go in and you give it a name like we're the Goonies, whatever, dumb shit. And they would push this challenger. Krista McAuliffe, she's a teacher going to space. Imagine that, a teacher in space, of all places. And as a kid I was like, I fucking hate school. Like I don't care is this. But like I could only tell they're trying to like teachers in space. So then the day, big day of the launch, every classroom is watching that shit. They made sure all the kids were watching. So you watch a teacher blow the fuck up in the sky and not go to space. The thing you wanted to see with the Amazon rocket is what they did with this teacher. They hyped up, right? Okay. And I'm telling you, that's how it was. Ask anybody that saw it. So looking back now, that's a display. Well, hey kids, gather around. We're gonna watch the teacher. And then teacher blows up. I remember this so clearly because like some, everybody had different, you know, a lot of the kids, because the, the thing never took of me giving a. About the teacher, I wasn't as emotional. I was like, oh, I remember some kids were crying, right? You get a little 911 action as a young. But what's the point of that? We all have to watch that blow up because we're not going to be doing any space for a while. Kids so down with that, you might want to start looking at land based futures because there's nothing, nothing in space for you. There was some message there. And so it's called message the masses. Right? When you do an assassination for everyone to see. Charlie Kirk's.

[B]

Yeah, what?

[A]

What you're meant to see it. I don't know. There's at Least four plausible videos of somebody suspicious. That looks like it could be a thing. Why would that be? Well, since we're all supposed to see this execution of this guy, they. They're well aware that a bunch of Internet sleuths are gonna pick it apart, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And their official story is dog. Okay. A 30 odd six. That is not possible. If you ever shot a gun.

[B]

Yeah, 3006 makes no sense.

[A]

Okay? It obviously they don't give a magical neck.

[B]

Remember? You even said it, dude.

[A]

No, no, the magic bullets what killed Kennedy, A miracle neck bone that he had is what stopped the 30 odd six from. But it still didn't kill the guy making hand signals.

[B]

That was the craziest part about the. What's his name, Colvette tweeting that out. He tweeted out like, Charlie was just superhuman and by the grace of God, the bullet didn't go. It's like he still died, malaka. Like, what do you. Like, there's no miracle here he's dead?

[A]

Well, because the bullet that they said it would have hit the guy making hand signals behind him for sure. But. Okay, so a miracle they did say.

[B]

Although, actually, Kurt, in all fairness, there's obviously a lot wrong here. I believe the guy you're referring to, the hand signals guy, is literally that dude who's like his spiritual advisor. Like, that wasn't.

[A]

Is he a mormy?

[B]

No, no, he's. He's like a. He's a Christian guy. He's talked a lot. Okay, so I believe so.

[A]

But here's a deal. There's a. There's one guy in the front. It looks like he could have a palm gun. He could. There's a couple. Where you see. First, it looks. The first time I saw it look like the bullet, but maybe it was his earpiece flying out. There's three angles of three different people doing a thing. Oh, not to mention.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not to mention the guy that said. Now, what I thought was like the most believable at the time, but who the fuck knows is that. Because you know how Israel pulled off that trial? And the reason I thought about it was because Bibi was in the UN saying, remember when we blew up Libya with them pagers? Remember them pagers?

[B]

They had Lebanon.

[A]

Sorry, Lebanon. Yeah, that's correct.

[B]

He's like, when you're holding that phone, you're holding a piece of Israel.

[A]

Did he say that?

[B]

Yeah, that's what he said. Word for word, he goes, that cell phone in your hand is a piece of Israel.

[A]

Wait, what. What was the context of that.

[B]

It was during that same speech where he was talking about.

[A]

Oh, that's great. Well, I do treat my phone as if it were sacred. That's. That's. That's fair. This is pretty fair about that promise to you. Hey, when the guy's right. When the guy's right, he's right. What are you gonna do?

[B]

Yeah, here it is. Then let's play it deep then. Yeah, dude, Thief is on it. You're holding a piece of Israel right there. You know that. I mean, a lot of the cell phones, the medicines, the foods, your cherry tomatoes, Israel, right here. All right, let's pause it deep. Hold on. Kurt, let me make a quick note. If you didn't hear a video just now, that's because that music in the background, that video is copyrighted. But it's Netanyahu saying, that. Cell phone in your hand, you're holding a piece of Israel, and cherry tomatoes, you're holding a piece of Israel.

[A]

A lot of the remote control, plane technology, all kinds of things.

[B]

How about the VPNs? They own like eight of them.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, they just bought.

[A]

Don't tell me they own nord. No, wait, don't tell me. My Free Palestine Only fans in some way.

[B]

I think they do. Can we check it? Is it owned by an Israeli company?

[A]

Well, I know cbs, so Larry Ellison's kid runs all the fucking. But who fucking watch cbs? Barry Weiss is in charge. I've talked to her on the phone one time. Barry Weiss.

[B]

Nice lady.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Everyone's nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What does that have to do with anything?

[B]

Is she. I just have to say if she's. Yep. NORDVPN is. They had a data base, so they don't have that one.

[A]

They had a data leak, though.

[B]

Well, all I'm saying is if Barry Weiss is worth 250 million or whatever it was, you're worth a billion. Billion.

[A]

Hey, you want me to play ball? I'll play ball, dude, but I haven't. Nobody comes to me with a Riyadh offer.

[B]

He's like, riyadh? Never heard of it.

[A]

Dr. Kurt Davis. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So can we check if they bought Express vpn? I want to make sure I didn't make that up. ExpressVPN Israel, a company wholly owned by Israeli billionaire Teddy Sapphire. Baggy. Yep. There you go.

[A]

Yeah. None of these guys live in Israel. Unless they have a pedophile charge. Then they've go to there. Then they go. But they all don't live there. They just want to know it's there, I guess. Anyway, Israel, you name one thing they did even remotely wrong, and I'll have you stuffed in a van. Yo, have you seen. By the way, you seen the Chicago Ice? Do you know what. What they did with Ice to get people. They had an unprecedented hiring spree.

[B]

Yeah. They hired Superman.

[A]

Did they hire. No, no. The guys that grab you off the street. So right now, there's a whole conflict between that mayor in Chicago who's like, look, if Trump's not in charge, you know that. In charge.

[B]

Lori. I miss Lori Lightfoot. She was so much fun.

[A]

Well, old Howard Stern episode she's on.

[B]

I think Lori Lightfoot was so much fun.

[A]

She's on those old starts.

[B]

She was the best. She was.

[A]

I mean, it's. Stern had her on when nobody believed in it. Look at it. Yo, the new guy is such, like a nothing of a guy. Dude. Look at that. Would you believe she's. I was like, when she gonna meet a good man? And believe it or not. No, not at all. She's a. The gals who she reminds you of. There's somebody she reminds me, like if Malcolm Gladwell was in a fun house.

[B]

Oh, dude, come on, don't do that.

[A]

Anyway, she did a great job. And there's new guys, even better. So they're having, like, a war over it, which. How is that even a thing that you're. The city and the federal government having a war about a law they got to enforce. So government, because of the defund. The police. Genius move.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

They had to hire all these new people. It's called Ero. That's the people on the street.

[B]

Like, are you response something?

[A]

I guess. But none of them have any. Any experience in law enforcement. They're not military guys. They're people who got a $50,000 signing bonus. It's basically Police Academy 2. If you ever saw Police Academy 2, Bobcat Goldthwait joined the force even though he was in the gang. I will make a bet that some of those guys that they hired maybe illegal aliens, just because that's hilarious. And things have been working out really hilarious lately, you gotta admit. Oh, Mayor Lightfoot.

[B]

You imagine getting kidnapped off the street?

[A]

I think he looks like that. He looks like that General Lloyd something.

[B]

Dude, I can't.

[A]

He looks like the General of Africa.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, my God. That takes me back, dude.

[B]

Oh, what happened to Howard, man?

[A]

Nothing. He's the same dude, but when you're underdog, it's pretty cool. Then later. Looking back now, but he's kind of a dick.

[B]

Yeah, he always Was a dick, but like, he was a rebel. And now he's just.

[A]

Like I said, underdog, rebel. And now you're the Estelle. Now you're the thing. So how. How's it gonna be?

[B]

He changed who he was. It feels.

[A]

I don't think that he did. I think he's the same guy in a different circumstance. And once the guys at the top being like that, you know what I mean? People love like some obnoxious up and comer, right? But then at the top of you like that also, I've never seen like, he. He really does is an example, like the most smug wrong about some guy. How many people you know here that are don't know anything? I mean, most of them. And they'll talk to you like they know something. A lot of people, New York especially.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You know, you must know people freaking out about. What's his name, Mom?

[B]

Donnie.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Fucking everyone's freaking out about it.

[A]

Krav Maga. Mom, Donnie, do you think that's a real guy?

[B]

Yo, remember, have you seen his accents?

[A]

Dude, all these people are props.

[B]

No, no, I know, but have you seen his accents?

[A]

What do you mean, his accents?

[B]

Oh, bro, he's like Kamala Harris on steroids.

[A]

Like, and on H. Dude, they're all global leaders.

[B]

He's got like foreign accents.

[A]

And then, bro, I think it's racist. And honestly, I think Indian music is racist. And I've been waiting to tell.

[B]

Wait, why is Indian music racist?

[A]

Because it sounds like they're making fun of Indian music. I tell him to turn it off when I come. Here I go the guy. Can you turn that racist music off, please? And that outfit's not helping either, buddy. It wasn't funny when Mike Myers did it.

[B]

She not coming back to vote for mom Donnie.

[A]

I just. Why would you remember AOC. Mrs. Knock down the house? And she's just another whatever. Why are the politicians getting hotter and the actors are getting uglier? Why? Like, that's not how it's supposed to work.

[B]

Oh, I haven't heard someone say that.

[A]

Dude, the last of us girl should have been in politics. The Shane Gillis girl. You know what I'm talking about? You know, they're like, yo, this is the new way. This is what I'm talking about. With.

[B]

Was she Monarch too?

[A]

I. I don't have. No. I mean, come on, man, you didn't even match. Yo, where's the thing with Kevin James? If somebody put her face on Kevin James shrugging.

[B]

Oh, no, no.

[A]

I just think of her. As if Shane has. If I'm gonna be a dad that looks like.

[B]

That looks like Katie Porter.

[A]

Dude. On the show. She goes. Going to be a dad. Yo. You know, the last of us is actually the good. The one. The first game was very well written. It's a. I think her name's Amy. It's a female writer that came up with the good of it. It's not that guy. No, she wrote a lot of mo. Yeah. Ironically, the guy with the oily hair that made Last of Us two suck. Yeah, he, like, takes a lot of credit, but this broad wrote the original one. Like, what's.

[B]

You could tell because man taking credit for a woman's work. And then so he started working thing of all time.

[A]

Yo. I could have made Last of Us to a good story. I could have. Dude. Okay, here's how I would have done it. I would have had Abby. You just see a beginning of her getting kidnapped like Conan. And then I have something where it's like. You'll see like a Schwarzenegger Conan where he's on the wheel.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, the original Conan. He's grabbed as a boy, and then he's. He's put on this wheel, and it makes him strong. Doesn't really make sense, but don't matter because it's, like, epic when you see it. I would have done that with her. Something where you just. Okay. And then you follow her after. You kind of sympathize with the craziness of whatever.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then when she kills Joel, then you go, oh, no, I like her angel. You know, it's just real simple storytelling that even a hat could do that this guy didn't do on purpose because he's a.

[B]

It's like, I'm never gonna unsee that light foot.

[A]

I'm gonna. Yeah. On the show. I. I don't watch the show. I haven't watched it. Trying to think what I liked recently. You watch anything? What's good now?

[B]

I don't. I want. When I watch something, it's usually like a limited series or something like that. I don't really have time to get invested in, like, a TV show. I don't know.

[A]

I know. I don't want to. I don't want to spread it. Yo. On, like, YouTube's better than documentary wise.

[B]

I do think that we have entered an era of saturated storytelling content that is watered down and using a lot of the same pattern patterns. Like, stuff I see feels unoriginal. It feels like a lot of the actors, even when they're Good. Aren't put in a position to really do something special and. And, you know, change the game with something like that era of, like, finding a True Detective, Season one, or, God forbid, creating a Sopranos or Mad Men or something like that. That we're. We're on hard. On the downside of that right now, it feels like.

[A]

Well, because I think they were running all, like, the people that were good at it out. It's. It's like defunding everything. And an AI is gonna do it, you know, Like, I think it's something like that going on. Oh, severance.

[B]

I've heard severance is great. I have not seen it.

[A]

I'll bet you it's been going on too long. But that, dude, severance. That's what Monarch's about, dude. That's what the whole thing is. How do I get people well. Of severance or Monarch?

[B]

It's severance. Let's start there.

[A]

You have a, you know, your work self and your other self, and you. You split so you don't have to do the work. Like there's like a slave you that does it.

[B]

Yeah. You put her on and then there's out.

[A]

There's an outside you and inside you.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

So all that shit about remember. Remember when they used to say that there's no such thing as multiple personalities? It's made up and False memory syndrome. You've heard of false memory syndrome?

[B]

Of course. They were saying there was no such thing as multiple personalities.

[A]

Well, now it's called D.I.D. it's much like UFO stand for again. Dissociative.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Identity disorder. Because it turns out it is a thing. But they can't call it multiple personalities because they debunked that one so much like UFOs. What do you got to call them now? UAP.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not because they go in the water, too. It's because we Crap. Trump colluded with. That's a conspiracy theory. Trump colluded with Russia. I'm not going to say conspiracy because that means something. That's not true. Now I'm going to say collusion instead, which means the same. Not even ovaries. There's no legal thing called that. Conspiracy. There's a crime.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That you can't tell the judge. It's just a conspiracy.

[B]

Right. You like that's prove that, Rico.

[A]

Well, so all they do is change the brand name of the thing. That's why you don't want to get hung up on the names. Because it really doesn't matter. What matters is you just see what these motherfuckers do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So like anyway, how do you do stuff that you don't want to do? You got to have special, special programming. And if you can dissociate, like if you saw Madness of King George, remember when the guy, the guy who was nice to him gets fired at the end? The guy who's nice.

[B]

Wait, I don't know why not in my head I've not seen that.

[A]

So anyways, it's about this inbred freak going nuts for a minute, okay? And. And at the end, there's a guy who was nice to him, so he gets sacked immediately. And then the guy, the shitty shittier guy, he goes, you were kind to his Majesty. In the future, a blind eye will serve you better. A blind eye. So the thing where you just blank out and you go, this is not happening because your team needs to do some shit. So the mark of good breeding is if you could do that. If you could be like, I'm not even here right now. You know, you.

[B]

Do you think that there's been. I've been thinking about this all day with different things you said, but I haven't asked you. Do you think. Think that there is a real conspiracy, which is how they paint away these things and make it seem like cuckoo, but when it's really crazy, do you think that there is a real movement to depopulate the planet?

[A]

Well, okay, that's in that book. And it's not to just kill people, it's to keep it to controllable.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

See, so. So if I can't have total control, here's what I could do. In the meantime, I can cause chaos. In which way is a form of control?

[B]

Right?

[A]

It's. It's like. Was it the treaty on the Punic Wars? I can't remember which. Which Roman generals. It's all about using identity to split people up, right? So that's. Everything is set up that way. Like I said, we have a left and a right still. Why. Why is that a thing?

[B]

A divided society is a compliant society.

[A]

I watch Ben Shapiro after. I don't know what he was talking about, but making it. Oh, and the JFK shit, that didn't really come up.

[B]

Thing to see here we got all the information.

[A]

Well, not just that. He goes. He goes. Well, conspiracy theater used to be a left wing thing, but now it's in the right wing. And so now you already. Or you'd want to be on a right wing or left wing. It's already. Get back in your Fucking pen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you belong. Like, what do you think that is? Like, I know people that would look down like a crippin of blood that are the same. Same colors that they're like, I'm blue and I hate red. Or vice versa. There's one control system, so, yeah, that's what the pyramid shit's about. That's a generational project. A pyramid. I hate pyramids. I hate them so much.

[B]

You hate pyramids?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's like, what did they ever do to you?

[A]

That's a symbol of your slavery and horseshit. I mean, that's the pretty cool invention, though. I don't like. I fuck that shit. That's like a. Just that stupid structure. It's a thing that. That. It's like a timeless structure. That's what you're trying to build so you have total control. That's a goal. It's in. There's a Gore Vidal documentary, it's very good, called the United States of Amnesia. And he goes, the goal of every society is total control. And that's what. Exactly what the goal is of every society.

[B]

Yeah, I don't. I don't really see evidence that he's wrong about that. That there's always. It's human nature that some powerful will try to control.

[A]

Human nature is you getting programmed. The people that are in control of it are. That's what I was trying to figure out when I started looking at was like, their dumb cult. So. And the cult is like, dude, it's so lame. It's just like any other dumb cult you ever heard of where you're like, really? You believe that? But. Yeah, they believe it. But think of, like, not Scientology, like, which is a. Just a knockoff imitation. That's basically. If you're one of them, like, OTO groups, which Hubbard was. Your final initiation is to make a religion. That's your class project at Harry Potter.

[B]

Make a religion?

[A]

Yeah, that's apotheosis. And L. Ron Hubbard did it. Everybody knows the story of it, but that's part of OTO shit. That's why all intel is like. Like the black. That's why 007 is John D's number. He would send to the Queen. All that magic is. That's what spycraft is out of the gate. That's what it's always been, you know? Whoa. You know that 007 is. That's what that is.

[B]

I did not know that.

[A]

Yeah, the cool.

[B]

I didn't give you a look like I knew that, Kurt. Well, I gave you a look like you just said. What?

[A]

Yeah, that's what it is. So it. It's been around.

[B]

Pull that up. 007. What do you want?

[A]

Number.

[B]

What do you want? Deep to search.

[A]

What? John D007. It's a common knowledge thing.

[B]

Okay, see what we got here. John D007 refers to Dr. John D. A Renaissance polymath who served as Queen Elizabeth the First Advisor and allegedly used the 007 code and secret messages to her centuries before James Bond. The double zero symbolized his role as the Queen's eyes across Europe. Illuminati is also about eyes, by the way. Seven was considered a potent number D's correspondence and his role as a spy and master of navigation helped lay the groundwork for England's rise as a global power. A concept of which he coined the term British Empire. Now you think.

[A]

Yeah, so that. So America is supposed to be the new Atlantis. That's why America was founded. It's not. People think it's Christian. Like, what the are you talking about?

[B]

It's Judeo Christian, Kurt.

[A]

There's no such. What does Judeo Christian mean? What does that mean?

[B]

It's a made up term.

[A]

There's Abrahamic. I've heard of that. It's literally Muslim and Jewish. Then there's Christian. Judeo Christian is a marketing term. Yeah, they. Dude, they still push that.

[B]

Stupid people say that out loud. Especially like older people. Well, this is a nation of Judeo Christian values. I'm like, have you ever stopped to think about, like, what you're saying?

[A]

And also it's a. The values are Egyptian and like the plume serpent is Masons.

[B]

A lot of the founders were Masons.

[A]

But even the Masons aren't as bad as these people. That infiltrated them pretty early on. And so. So anyway, that's what Thomas Jefferson was into. They thought there's gonna be Atlantis. That's the guy that wrote Shakespeare's plays. You know, Bacon. He's supposedly Kevin Bacon. Kevin? Yes, Kevin, the illegitimate son of Queen Elizabeth. Kevin Bacon, as you know. And he called America the new Atlantis. And so the people.

[B]

Which implies there was an old Atlantis.

[A]

The bloodline's called the serpent race.

[B]

The serpent race?

[A]

Yeah, the sons of Cain. There's some story that Cain, like, you know, the. The serpent knocked up Eve just before Adam did. And then they had Cain and Abel, but Abel, Cain was the bloodline of the serpent.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

It's not like reptilian. It's.

[B]

I mean, that's what it sounds like, Kurt.

[A]

It does. It does, doesn't it? Does sound a lot, but it's not. Maybe it's. I don't know if it's that, but the. The thing in Esoteric Mystery school is that. That we are the blood of Cain. So you. They have a whole. Dude. All of it's the same. It's just control. It's the same as. That's why they all have Tibetan Buddhism.

[B]

Him.

[A]

You know? You know, they take the kid and they repattern him to be a Dalai Lama. They don't even wait till the Dalai Lama dies. They just get the kid, and they're.

[B]

Like, suck the tongue.

[A]

I. I think that's how they transfer. Steven Crowder changed my mind about that dude. I think that the Dalai Lama was transferring his soul into that. And that's why people don't want to talk about it no more. Yo, I'm so hungry. What time?

[B]

Oh, man, we're about ready to wrap up. Kurt, you're fucking. You're a riot, bro. I got. I gotta ask you, though. All this. You think all this alien disclosure is just government disinfo?

[A]

Well, disinfo works by. Some of it's real. And then. See, the reason you gotta put real shit in is to discredit it.

[B]

Right, exactly.

[A]

So, but, look, I would just. If you just go by what. You know, what is the. I forget how it goes description. You know them by the fruits of their works.

[B]

Sounds right.

[A]

Or the works of their fruits in the case of hip hop. Did you know it was gay? You should have known it was gay. This whole time, it's been very gay, and I just didn't know. 99 problems with a bitch ain't one that's straight. That's a straight thing to say. Oh, who. 99. My problems are one.

[B]

All right, Kurt. So the aliens are gay. That's. That's where we're gonna.

[A]

Yo, butthole. It's on the Goatsy AI Christmas album. The butthole is where the magic is.

[B]

We'll have to check that one out.

[A]

Look, it sounds crazy, but I'm just telling you, if you look into it, it comes. It always circles back to that. Like a snake eating its own butthole.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The heros.

[B]

I believe you.

[A]

This what happens? Let me ask you this. What happens if you go back in time? The grandfather paradox. You know, you go back in time and kill your grandpa. What happens? You ever heard that?

[B]

Yeah. Then you don't exist.

[A]

No. You become immortal and without sin because your consciousness exists. But now, you weren't born out of a. Which is why you're born in sin.

[B]

Oh, that's deep.

[A]

Well, they. I think these do something like that. I didn't get to my crazy, but it has to do with that.

[B]

Oh, you didn't get there today.

[A]

If you could ever blow yourself, you would achieve immortality.

[B]

Yeah, I've been baked from your weed in the kitchen since like one o'. Clock.

[A]

Yeah, it was. It's all right.

[B]

Some good stuff.

[A]

It's okay. Fine.

[B]

All right, Kurt Matzko. This was a lot of fun, bro. Thank you so much for coming through to do it. I'm sure we'll have to do this again. You can educate me some more on all the real makings of the world that we don't see that is underneath the surface.

[A]

What's up? Let me put on my shisty.

[B]

Yeah, you got to put on that shy one more time for the. For the road. Keep those glasses straight.

[A]

Okay. Do the outro again, will you? My podcast is called the Derp with.

[B]

Kurt, by the way, and we're gonna have the link to the Derp with Kurt down below where you can learn really going on out there, looking into it.

[A]

I have some good people on. On. On my derp.

[B]

Yeah, you're also on Jimmy Dore stuff a lot.

[A]

That's always I sidekick on Jimmy Door program.

[B]

That's always a good Jimmy's at the.

[A]

Doorship what it's called. Check it out.

[B]

Check out Kurt's links down below. We'll do this again. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

All right, everybody else, you know what it is. Give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace. Thank you guys for watching the episode. If you haven't already, please hit that subscribe button and smash that, like button on the video. They're both a huge, huge help. And if you would like to follow me on Instagram and X, those links are in my description below.