Julian Dorey Podcast #386: “Sickening!” - Ex-Skinhead on Agenda 2030, Kash Patel & Getting Shot by ICE | Dave Franke

Release Date: February 20, 2026
Guest: Dave Franke
Host: Julian Dorey

Episode Overview

This intense and deeply personal episode features Dave Franke—ex-skinhead, cartel fighter, and survivor of a recent ICE shooting. Through a raw, unsparing conversation, Dave retraces his tumultuous early life, brushes with extreme ideology, battles with substance abuse, and eventual transformation. Along the way, the discussion veers into geopolitics (Agenda 2030, Venezuela, U.S. Constitution), gun rights, and the complexities behind crime and societal division. Dave’s story is not only one of survival but also of overcoming hate, addiction, and personal demons.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dave's Recent Encounter with ICE (00:21–02:21)

• Dave recounts being shot in the face by ICE with a pepper ball during a protest at the Department of Homeland Security in Portland. He emphasizes the importance of exercising constitutional rights and criticizes the authorities for using force on peaceful demonstrators.
  • Quote: "I don't think that the people that are in charge of protecting us should be shooting us for exercising our constitutional rights." (00:39, Dave)
• He references YouTube videos of the incident, asserting transparency and documenting events.

2. The Political & Constitutional Critique (03:01–06:27)

• Conversation shifts to political disillusionment: despite being lifelong conservative, Dave criticizes Trump’s anti–gun rights actions (bump stock bans, ATF policies).
• Examines the contradictions in modern “pro-gun” rhetoric: "When Trump said, 'take the guns first, due process second,'…I'm like, hey man, I'm not cool with all of this, and they're just like—it's going right over their head." (03:14, Dave)
• Explores how government overreach and violation of amendments (1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th) erode civilian freedoms and constitutional protections.

3. Agenda 2030 and Theories of Global Governance (04:20–08:27)

• Dave details his self-education: reading the entire Trans-Pacific Partnership, Affordable Care Act, and key UN documents (e.g., Agenda 2021 and 2030).
• Argues that global elites, or “the bankers”—those controlling the world’s material wealth—push world government and societal division, with an armed America being the primary obstacle.
  • Quote: "The main obstacle between world governance and actually getting there is the armed United States of America. Because you cannot force or tell an armed people what to do." (06:00, Dave)
• Host Julian agrees with the general drift, referencing nations disarmed before COVID, pointing to Australia's lockdowns as a cautionary tale.

4. Gun Rights—Mexico, Cartels, and Fast & Furious (10:31–12:17)

• Dave contrasts strict Mexican gun laws (only military-run gun stores, strict calibers) with rampant cartel armament, often fueled by U.S. government mistakes like Operation Fast and Furious.
  • Quote: "Not only do [cartels] own [military-grade guns], they're being sent to them by Eric Holder, the Department of Justice and the ATF—Fast and Furious." (11:44, Dave)
• Highlights the futility of gun control when criminals have access, and governance is corrupt or complicit.

5. Society, Welfare, and Division (13:07–19:40)

• Dave and Julian dissect the cultural and political atomization of America, blaming both government and elites for “fomenting discord on purpose to create a divide.”
  • Quote (Julian): "A divided society is a compliant society." (19:40)
• Franke illustrates the brokenness of welfare systems with anecdotes from Minnesota, criticizing government-enabled fraud and discussing personal experiences managing a factory amidst social welfare exploitation.

6. Foreign Policy & Resource Wars (23:27–26:38)

• Discussion of U.S. foreign policy power, especially the ease of “regime change” abroad (e.g., Venezuela, under Trump). Julian shares an anecdote about Jimmy Carter and Nixon on the true source of presidential power: foreign affairs, not domestic.
  • Quote (Carter via Julian): "Congress doesn't let you do anything domestically...But the foreign policy, that's where you got the power." (21:53)
• Dave calls out hypocrisy in advocating for might-makes-right abroad while decrying it domestically, and warns of unintended consequences of resource-grabs in places like Venezuela and Mexico.
  • Quote: "I don't think we should be in Venezuela...A lot of times politicians try to keep us divided...then they'll want to get us into a war. And war is actually a population control thing." (24:17–24:57, Dave)

7. Domestic Terror Labels, ICE, and Rights (39:14–47:01)

• Dave recounts how labels like "terrorist" are abused to strip due process (referencing Padilla case, 2014). Warns that such legal abuses set dangerous precedents.
  • Quote: "You have to give anyone accused of any crime their day in court. They didn't do that...because they labeled them a terrorist. So we have to be careful when we label people, because, sooner or later, that label is going to be levied against us, too." (40:55, Dave)

8. Constitution vs. Declaration of Independence, Founding Principles (47:37–53:42)

• Dave advocates for legal codification of the Declaration of Independence’s principles (“life, liberty, pursuit of happiness”) and critiques how executive orders and emergencies let the government ignore the Constitution.
• Deep historical dive: Articles of Confederation, Constitution’s tenuous legality, and why the Declaration remains a moral cornerstone.

9. Upbringing, Family Chaos & Violence (70:00–105:13)

• Dave shares an astonishing, harrowing life story:
  • Illicit adoption at birth, returned to mother after abuse.
  • Childhood on an Iowa farm: guns, chores, reading encyclopedias, scant affection, hunting at age 4.
  • Parental divorce; violent, unstable stepfather who was physically and sexually abusive ("My stepdad was choking me out until I got tunnel vision and fell out on the floor, man." *(102:32))
  • Move to L.A.: culture-shock, first run-in with gangs.
  • Early exposure to ferocious violence, drugs, lack of adult guidance or affection, and sexual confusion.

10. Descent into Gangs, Drugs & White Supremacy (112:14–162:23)

• Outlined progression:
  • Drifting into skinhead/punk scene after LA bullying (by multiracial gangs; "it was all about my skateboard").
  • Early drug dealing with brother and friends, involvement with guns.
  • Juvenile hall, then LA County jail: direct exposure to organized white supremacist prison culture.
  • Hostile jail environment; forced gang-based solidarity, constant fighting.
• Dave describes his engagement with hate groups as situational, driven by violence in and outside jail.
• Transformation Trigger: Encounters with Andre ("Omar"), a Nation of Islam member in rehab; three brutal fights, then emotional breakthrough: "If I'd been born white, I would have been just like you." (162:38)
  • Dave sees his path as a wasted gift, takes responsibility for life choices.

11. Addiction & Road to Sobriety (classic redemption arc) (169:02–178:37)

• Details cycles of sobriety/relapse—ultimately kicked after a near-fatal drug house confrontation. "I was afraid that the guy was going to come in, I'm going to kill him in front of all these witnesses...That was going to be the totality of my life. Dave Frank...over a strawberry daiquiri." (173:40)
• 12-step program, moral reckoning, importance of “fearless moral inventory.”

12. Personal Growth, Reflections, and Closing Thoughts (176:09–end)

• Dave emphasizes accepting responsibility for his actions, no longer apologizing for past but not glamorizing it either. Focused on honesty and gratitude for wife, sober life, and ongoing transformation.
  • Quote: "There's only one way to become self-aware...every deficiency I have in my life is my fault, and my responsibility to fix, because no one else is going to do it for you." (178:37, Dave)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On division and control: "A divided society is a compliant society." (19:40, Julian)
• On foreign policy: "That's where you got the power...the world runs on all the things that happen strictly outside our borders." (21:53, Julian paraphrasing Nixon via Carter)
• On U.S. government’s hypocrisy: "If someone wants to get together a posse...and removes them of all of their hard-earned things...they’d be like, that’s against the law. But on a national level we’re going to do it to Venezuela." (24:11, Dave)
• On redemption: "The best I could do with all that is wind up in [rehab] with people that have made nothing but mistakes in their life...It wasn’t Latino’s fault, it wasn’t black people’s fault. It was, hey Dave, you’re a piece of shit. Everything that you’ve been given in life, you’ve just pissed away." (162:38, Dave)
• On personal responsibility: "Every deficiency I have in my life is my fault and my responsibility to fix." (178:37, Dave)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------|---------------| | Shot by ICE, civil rights | 00:21–02:21 | | Trump, Second Amendment failings | 03:01–06:27 | | Agenda 2030 and world governance | 04:20–08:27 | | Mexico gun laws, cartels, Fast & Furious | 10:31–12:17 | | Welfare, society, manufactured division | 13:07–19:40 | | Foreign Policy (Nixon, Carter, Venezuela) | 23:27–26:38 | | Domestic terror, labels, ICE | 39:14–47:01 | | Constitution vs. Declaration, founding flaws | 47:37–53:42 | | Childhood abuse, Iowa to LA | 70:00–105:13 | | Gangs, drugs, white supremacy | 112:14–162:23 | | Transformation, Andre in rehab | 162:38–168:38 | | Recovery, steps, personal accounting| 177:53–end |

Tone & Style

• Authentic and unflinching: Dave doesn’t flinch from brutal truths or self-reckoning.
• Conversational, at times darkly humorous; Julian probes, reflects, and challenges (often with respect and curiosity).
• Streetwise, redemptive undercurrent: Dave moves from nihilism and hate to hard-won humility and self-acceptance.

Memorable Moments

• Dave’s hilarious and tragic “Forest Gump” trajectory—from LA skinhead to Mormon convert to Mexican cartel fighter.
• Anecdotes about his stepfather’s violence, being choked out, and surviving a hellish home life.
• Insights into American government hypocrisy: DEA/ATF running guns to cartels, CIA laundering money.
• Dave’s deep knowledge of law and policy, informed by direct experience and obsessive reading.
• The moment of recognition and mutual respect with Andre in rehab, a turning point in overcoming racism.

This episode is a wild, no-holds-barred odyssey of trauma, resilience, and critical insight into both personal transformation and the most charged issues in American society. Listeners are left with a deep sense of how hate is made—and how it can be unmade.