Julian Dorey Podcast #387 - “FRY Them!”
Julian ERUPTS on Epstein, Mossad/CIA, Prince Andrew & Shadow Elite
Date: February 21, 2026
Host: Julian Dorey | Guest: Joey Dee

Episode Overview

In this intense and revealing episode, Julian Dorey delves into the latest revelations and mounting evidence from the newly released “Epstein Files." He and co-host Joey Dee break down implications linking Jeffrey Epstein, Mossad and CIA, the shadowy “supra-government” elite, Prince Andrew’s arrest, and elite networks protecting criminal interests. The discussion tackles the implications for the world’s power structures, cross-contamination between intelligence agencies, and the horrifying depths of Epstein's abuses, all while maintaining a critical and passionate tone.

Julian cites links between Epstein, Robert Maxwell, high finance, celebrity, intelligence agencies, and government power, using new evidence from internal emails and leaked files as a launching pad for challenging questions about who really runs the world.

Main Discussion Points

1. Setting the Stage & Psychological Safety Concerns

Timestamp: 00:01–02:56

• Julian begins with a personal disclaimer about his well-being due to "strange messages" received—reflecting awareness of the dangers investigative journalists face reporting on powerful people.

Quote:

“There is no point in which you will find me in open air situations that involve heights. I’m not going out there on my own. … The only use I have ever gotten out of a belt is to put it around my waist…”
— Julian Dorey [01:27]

2. The Epstein Files: Overwhelming Complexity & Institutional Entanglement

Timestamp: 02:58–06:31

• Julian and Joey discuss the daunting complexity of the Epstein case: overlapping time periods, networks, and locales across decades.
• Highlight the tireless work of independent investigators like Whitney Webb.
• The "supra-government" concept—Tucker Carlson’s label—describes a power structure above even visible world leaders.

Quote:

“These are people across the world who ... just a small little teeny handful … somehow ends up in the boardroom signing all these same papers to pass around like a fucking used condom all these different companies … things that influence thought … These are things that program people.”
— Julian Dorey [06:31]

• Acknowledgment that past so-called "conspiracy theories" are gaining uncomfortable legitimacy as new evidence emerges.

3. The Depth of Epstein’s Sadism & Organized Evil

Timestamp: 10:05–18:15

• Preview of next guest: CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, and plans for an interview with an Epstein survivor.
• Harrowing insights into the psychological and operational tactics used by Epstein: obsessive “studying” of victims, learning from each case for future exploitation, akin to an NFL coach reviewing game tape.
• Discussions of “satanic” elements & depth of depravity—including issues as dark as possible cannibalism—based on coded language in emails.

Quotes:

"He’d want to know what worked and what didn’t. That's the level of depravity, psychological manipulation, and sadistic, sociopathic ... Machiavellian genius to this depravity that he had."
— Julian Dorey [16:58–17:56]

"It also made me think too, like, that was ... well, he's a spy. There you go."
— Joey Dee [18:01]

4. Geopolitical Connections: Mossad, CIA, and Government Bureaucracy

Timestamp: 18:34–56:13

• Freshly unearthed emails from Epstein to Israeli ex-Prime Minister Ehud Barak suggesting US authorization for that era’s Iran strike (2013).
• Deep dive into the incestuous “club” of global elites—citing Howard Lutnick as a case study (survivor of 9/11 whose family interlinks with Epstein/Maxwell).
• The Terramar Project, oceans-as-no-jurisdiction project fronted by Ghislaine Maxwell—suspicious nonprofit with connections to influential figures.
• Video discussion: Howard Lutnick’s nervous laughter when discussing 9/11, fueling speculation of insider knowledge.
• Stories about Wall Street’s hidden elite, survivor’s guilt narratives, and how inspiring personal stories can be tainted by hidden associations.

Quote:

"It’s a little club and you ain’t in it. ... brothers and sisters, you gotta be blood relative to be in it."
— Julian Dorey [23:54]

• Revelations regarding Epstein’s butler Alfredo’s ignored attempts to blow the whistle—FBI targeting him for trying to expose Epstein’s contacts (the infamous black book), instead criminalizing him rather than the powerful guilty.

5. Epstein as Mossad/CIA Fixer: Historical Origins & Complicity

Timestamp: 36:18–56:13

• Detailed exploration of Epstein’s early years as an intelligence “fixer,” tracing his roots from Bear Stearns to suspected involvement in the 1981 Al Yamama Saudi arms deal alongside major intelligence players.
• Julian emphasizes the importance of separating criticism of Israeli government/intelligence from blanket statements about Jewish people.
• Examination of the intelligence community’s “compartmentalization”—how very few decision-makers can implicate entire institutions (parallel drawn with JFK assassination and shadow CIA).
• Emails revealing Israeli government’s direct involvement in security/surveillance at Epstein properties in the US.
• The possibility of multiple intelligence agencies (Mossad, CIA, MI6, KGB) exploiting Epstein as useful asset in parallel.

Quote:

"Jeffrey Epstein. Clearly doing work for Mossad. Clearly at some point doing work for CIA. The question is that that lane could have happened very early or later, or ... both."
— Julian Dorey [55:18]

Notable Segment — Emails:

• “Israeli government installed security systems Epstein's Manhattan building... starting in 2016, Israeli mission to the UN coordinated with Epstein staff to install alarms, sensors, surveillance equipment.”

— Read at [49:01]

6. Mossad vs. CIA: Relationship and Rivalry

Timestamp: 56:13–61:01

• Pushback against the popular claim that “Mossad equals CIA,” drawing on testimony from career intelligence insiders (like Andrew Bustamante, John Kiriakou).
• Insights into the revolving door between intelligence work and private defense contracting (“adding a zero” to salaries via Lockheed Martin and similar companies).
• Differences and point-of-conflict between US and Israeli intelligence, with examples of shared—but sometimes begrudging—cooperation.
• Private contractors' role in laundering government activity through shell corporations.

Quote:

"People will often say CIA equals Mossad, Mossad equals CIA. It’s just simply not true ... That’s a statement made out of ignorance."
— Julian Dorey [61:00]

7. The Politicians’ Game: Trump, Clinton, the Monarchy & Bipartisan Rot

Timestamp: 61:02–76:50

• Every administration, Democrat and Republican, has contributed to cover-ups regarding Epstein.
• Trump is uniquely criticized for both releasing some evidence and also redacting known abusers’ names because “my friends are going to get hurt by this.”
• Clinton family connections dissected: denial and evasiveness about their links to Epstein (notably, Hillary’s awkward answers about Ghislaine Maxwell).

Quotes:

"All the Democrats like, getting credit for asking these questions now ... make no mistake about it, every administration ... has covered this up. All of them. They deserve zero credit."
— Julian Dorey [61:52]

“She attended my wedding, my daughter's wedding, the Clinton Global Initiative. So ... it to me is not something that is at the heart of what this matter is about.”
— Hillary Clinton [72:40]

• Prince Andrew’s arrest—a “first royal arrested in nearly 400 years”—and how his conduct as UK Trade Envoy was directly connected to the Saudi arms deal and covered up abuse.

Quote:

"You gotta wonder, like I said last week, what are the downstream implications of that, you know? So we will, we will see what happens with, with Andrew."
— Julian Dorey [86:15]

8. Financial Elites, Shadow Commissions, Evidence Suppression

Timestamp: 76:51–87:57

• Discussion on the immense amount of suppressed evidence and withheld pages relating to 9/11; emails reveal Ghislaine Maxwell invited to a secret “Shadow Commission on 9/11.”
• Statistics showing suspicious data blackouts & market anomalies pre-9/11 in relevant files—fueling speculation about advanced knowledge and elite collaboration.
• Email showing Epstein communicating in code with Ariane de Rothschild of the banking dynasty: “I have your cereal can talk tonight around 2200,” indicative of mob-like encrypted arrangements.

Quote:

“This is a really sinister look. ... the data set 9 manifest shows a hard break in serial sequencing ... The missing tranches overlap with key geopolitical events and anomalous market activity.”
— Julian Dorey [82:51]

9. Final Reflections: The Real Structure of World Power

Timestamp: 87:58–98:11

• Julian reads and endorses Kevork Almassian’s op-ed “Empire Above Epstein”, arguing that the revealed web exposes our world as managed by hidden networks (“supra-government”) rather than public democratic processes.
• Politicians, even highly visible leaders, described as “third-level managers” serving interests of a shadow elite.
• Suppression of dissent and the rise of a digitally surveilled society is called out as the next phase in centralized, elite power—a diversion from authentic democracy.

Quote:

"Maybe parliaments are not the first level of decision making, but the fourth or fifth. Maybe prime ministers and presidents are not sovereign leaders, but third-level managers tasked with selling policy to the public."
— Kevork Almassian via Julian Dorey [90:45–91:06]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Monster Energy … White Monster, Zero Ultra, that’s the OG … branch out. Ultra’s got a flavor for every vibe.”—Julian sarcastically rolling through a sponsorship, juxtaposed with the show’s gravity [00:01]
• “Now, you’re seeing some of it—this super government involves people who may or may not be into those kinds of things. Emphasis on maybe, emphasis on actually, clearly, you know.”—Julian [06:52]
• “He could go into a polygraph test and if someone asked him, ‘Do you work for CIA?’ probably pass by saying no … just like so many of these guys do when they quit the job on a Friday … walk back in on Monday with the Lockheed Martin fucking visitor’s pass …”—Julian [60:13, reference recurring at close]
• “We have no links. We have a very clear record… My husband took some rides on the airplane for his charitable work … I don’t recall ever meeting him.” —Hillary Clinton [72:15]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:01–02:56 — Safety disclaimer, meta commentary on investigative risks
• 02:58–06:31 — Epstein Files: case complexity & the “supra-government”
• 06:31–10:05 — Maxwell, elites, incestuous power networks, apologies to “conspiracy theorists”
• 10:05–18:15 — Victim perspectives, Epstein’s tactics, culture of organized evil
• 18:34–28:26 — Mossad/CIA geopolitics, Howard Lutnick profile, Terramar/Maxwell connections
• 28:26–36:18 — Whistleblower suppression (Alfredo, black book), digital surveillance
• 36:18–56:13 — Spycraft origins, CIA/Mossad overlap, Bear Stearns, arms deals
• 56:13–61:01 — Intelligence bureaucracy, compartmentalization, private contractor links
• 61:02–76:50 — Politicians, Trump/Clinton, monarchy, bipartisan abuse cover-up
• 76:51–87:57 — Shadow commissions, evidence suppression, Prince Andrew arrest, rare positive note (Hermès CEO)
• 87:58–98:11 — Thesis: democracy as managed theater, Kevork Almassian article
• 98:11–End — Final emails, coded elite communication, preview of next episodes, credits

Summary Statement

Julian Dorey’s “FRY Them!” is a scathing, high-energy indictment of the networks that allegedly protect and perpetuate unimaginable wrongdoing at the highest levels of finance, intelligence, and government power. The episode’s detailed analysis, timely evidence drops, and pointed skewerings of “shadow elites” are both a clarion call for public awareness and whistleblower bravery, and a warning about how thin the democratic veil may be.

For Listeners Seeking More:

• Next Episode: CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou on breaking down emails and money trails
• Upcoming: In-depth victims' episode, Epstein & Maxwell “deep dives,” and ongoing analysis of elite collusion revelations

Closing Call to Action:
“Give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace.”
— Julian Dorey [98:00]

[End of Summary]