Julian Dorey Podcast, Ep. #390: “Epstein LINK!”

Date: February 28, 2026
Host: Julian Dorey
Guest/Co-Host: Joey Deef

Overview

Episode 390 of the Julian Dorey Podcast dives deep into the latest revelations from the Jeffrey Epstein files, exploring the intersections of global power, intelligence, and crime. Julian and Joey dissect new evidence and theories linking Epstein to the Rockefellers, Trilateral Commission, and, most explosively, the Maxwell sisters’ role in top-level data infrastructure. With pointed analysis, notable guest input (including clips and stories from whistleblower John Kiriakou), and a critical look at figures like Bill Gates, Les Wexner, and high-profile government and agency players, the episode balances rigorous skepticism with urgency and outrage over ongoing institutional cover-ups.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Aren’t There Major Protests Over the Epstein Scandal?

• Julian’s Opening Rant | [00:00-02:09]:
  • Expresses deep frustration with the lack of public protest around child trafficking linked to Epstein:

    “I have watched cities burn over one person being killed, and yet one of the most prolific examples of trafficked and missing children—barely a protest.”
    [00:52; Julian Dorey]

  • Rafts on America’s protest culture and the seeming apathy compared to other causes.
  • Repeats his view later:

    “Still not enough desperation… I have not seen a single fucking protest in the streets about this.”
    [19:55; Julian Dorey]

2. Explosive Revelations—Maxwell Sisters, FBI, and Data Harvesting

• Christine Maxwell’s Role in FBI Data Systems | [48:16–56:12]:
  • Christine Maxwell, Ghislaine’s sister, co-founded Chiliad, which provided search/data mining infrastructure to the FBI’s counterterrorism warehouse post-9/11.
  • Julian’s reaction:

    “Oh my God… it’s real, it’s 100% real down to the date.”
    [49:24; Julian Dorey]

  • Outlines how Chiliad connected incompatible databases across agencies (FBI, CIA, and NSA) and speculates on the implications of that access and timing.
  • Joey’s speculation: Chiliad’s transition to Palantir in 2019, Christine stepping down, and the continuity of power.

    “Yo, Pete, take the rock”
    [56:01; Joey Deef]

3. Trilateral Commission, Rockefeller, and Supra-Government Theory

• Epstein’s Link to Rockefellers and the Trilateral Commission | [02:09–18:42; 65:41–77:24]:
  • Epstein openly boasted about ties to David Rockefeller and membership on the Trilateral Commission.

    “He formed something called the Trilateral Commission… businessmen and politicians from three major continents.”
    [70:13; Jeffrey Epstein]

  • Tucker Carlson’s “Supra-Government” concept:

    “There’s at least two layers above elected leaders… Epstein-types are the fixers.”
    [03:10; Julian Dorey]

  • John Kiriakou’s anecdote about David Rockefeller acting as a secret backchannel to Saddam Hussein, bypassing normal diplomatic and governmental structures.

    “David Rockefeller is the secret backchannel to Saddam Hussein… That was his cover story.”
    [64:16; John Kiriakou]

  • Rockefeller quote from autobiography:

    “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal… If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
    [67:55; David Rockefeller’s quoted autobiography entry]

4. Recent Fallout: Resignations, Code Words, and the Shifting Narrative

• Notable Names Stepping Down Due to JMail (Epstein Email Dumps) | [07:11-11:39]:
  • List includes Peter Mandelson, Larry Summers, Tom Pritzker (“creepy” Afghanistan ‘boys with toys’ email).
  • Discussion of possible innuendo and the dangers of jumping to conclusions.
  • Julian:

    “Everything in these emails is in some form of code.”
    [10:51; Julian Dorey]

5. Government and Media Distraction Tactics

• 'UFO Disclosure' and Foreign Conflict as Distraction | [18:42–24:14]:
  • Skepticism over the timing of the government’s “release the UFO files” news and saber-rattling with Iran/Mexico—viewed as deliberate distractions from Epstein developments.

  • “If you can’t see that that is the ultimate, like ‘look at the shiny object’… I can’t help you.”
    [21:47; Julian Dorey]

6. Bill Gates & the Creeping Confession

• Gates’ Public Walk-Backs | [40:15–43:51]:
  • Gates admits two extramarital affairs, one with known “Bridge Player” woman tied to Epstein introductions.
  • Julian:

    “Last week he said that shit wasn’t real, and now he said some of it’s real—which means next week more of it will be real.”
    [40:18; Julian Dorey]

  • Emphasizes that while suspicious, there’s yet no proof Gates committed sex crimes with Epstein.

7. FBI and Evidence Suppression: Storage Lockers Full of Incriminating Material

• Secret Storage Units, Missing Investigations | [44:11–48:09]:
  • Details on Epstein’s use of multiple storage facilities around the US, never searched by the FBI, storing incriminating materials (computers, CDs, address books, sex slave manuals).

  • “He had a three-page list of masseuses, letters and lab results… and the FBI never searched these.”
    [45:17; Julian Dorey]

  • Theory: possible ‘dead man switch’ evidence caches still at large.

8. Les Wexner Deposition: “All-Time Con Artist” Defense

• Breakdown & Critique of Wexner’s Deposition Video | [77:26-87:38]:
  • Wexner paints himself as a “victim” of Epstein’s alleged genius-level deception.

  • “I was conned by the world Olympic all-time con artist.”
    [85:18; Les Wexner]

  • Questioned heavily:

    “He trusted Jeffrey Epstein to the tee and was completely conned. Never once had a thought about maybe… diversify my holdings?”
    [86:17; Julian Dorey]

  • Points to contradictions between Wexner and Robert Meister’s account of warnings about Epstein (“ducking and covering”).

9. Intelligence Agencies, Arms Deals, and the ‘Fixer Class’

• Analysis of Fixers & Global Governance | [72:03–77:24]:
  • Suggests that intelligence agencies (CIA, Mossad, etc.) operate in service of the true power class: banking dynasties, multinationals, and their embedded “fixers” (Epstein, Khashoggi, etc.).
  • Anecdotes connect arms deals, elite meetings, and blackmail.

10. Cultural & Media Complicity, and the Future

• Public Cynicism & The Vanishing Outrage | [43:51–44:10; 90:29–94:05]:
  • Acknowledgement of societal apathy:

    “Is it just gonna be a fun game for us to all play together and then, like, nothing happens?”
    [43:51; Joey Deef]

  • Maria Farmer’s testimony: Wexner as “the head of the snake.”
  • Howard Lutnick’s “brazen” State of the Union appearance—elites’ “audacity” and lack of consequences.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Julian on the failure of protest and societal outrage:

  “If you don’t admit that the possibility exists that that’s fucking weird, your eyes are shut, in my opinion.”
  [10:59]

• Bill Gates admitting (some) wrongdoing:

  “He admitted to two affairs with two different Russian women… regrets all his dealings with [Epstein].”
  [40:30]

• On the powerful protecting each other:

  “Why are these powerful people getting… deposed on their own turf? Why are they not being pulled up in front of Congress?”
  [77:26]

• George Orwell echoes—surveillance, data, Maxwell:

  “Data broker… collecting your data. In 1982… at the forefront of that industry.”
  [50:25]

• Rockefeller’s confession:

  “If that’s the charge—I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
  [67:55]

• Sarcastic banter on Bongino, Cash Patel, and PR:

  “We are run by retards. The last administration was dead and this one's retarded. God bless America.”
  [32:44]

Timestamps of Key Segments

| Time | Segment / Topic | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–02:09 | Protests, child trafficking, introduction | | 02:09–07:11 | Epstein/Rockefeller/Trilateral Commission links | | 07:11–11:39 | Resignations and coded language in JMail email dumps | | 12:42–18:42 | John Kiriakou, 9/11 ‘shadow commission’, State secrets | | 18:42–24:14 | UFO/war distractions, narrative manipulation | | 24:14–32:19 | Iran/Mexico as ongoing “drums,” inside source on White House plotting | | 32:19–34:59 | Elites' PR approaches, observations on Bongino | | 35:34–39:25 | False equivalencies, minimizing the scale of Epstein’s crimes | | 40:15–43:51 | Gates’ confessions, blackmail patterns, public narrative shifting | | 44:11–48:09 | Epstein’s unexplored storage units, FBI omissions, implications | | 48:16–56:12 | Maxwell sisters, Chiliad, intelligence agencies, Wikipedia/BusinessWire backup | | 56:12–61:38 | Succession of Chiliad to Palantir, timing, and links to intelligence community | | 61:38–66:19 | Rockefeller as State actor; Kiriakou's backchannel story, Rockefeller’s own words | | 66:19–77:24 | Rockefeller legacy, Trilateral Commission, Epstein’s membership and confession | | 77:26–90:29 | Les Wexner’s deposition, contradictions, body language, Maria Farmer’s testimony | | 90:29–94:05 | Howard Lutnick at State of the Union, emotional toll, podcast wrap-up | | 94:05–95:18 | Closing reflections, upcoming content, a call for reason and balance |

Conclusion

Tone & Message

• The episode is driven by open outrage and exhausted cynicism at the insidiousness of elite protection and media misdirection. Julian and Joey maintain skepticism, urge verification, and warn against unchecked conjecture—but are clear on the broad facts: Epstein’s network was real, spanned intelligence, finance, and politics, and the cover-up isn’t over.

Final Reflection
Julian exhorts listeners to keep pressure on for transparency, stay emotionally balanced, and not get distracted by decoy scandals or outrage cycles. He promises more content featuring diverse perspectives and survivor testimony.

Memorable Final Quote:

“We have to sift through this stuff… as awful as it is. Our opinions change, but the broad facts don’t. This moment is the most bipartisan story of my lifetime... Where are the protests?”
[Throughout]

For Further Episodes:

• Next: Interviews with cartel investigators and Epstein survivors, continued investigation of Maxwell, Wexner, and the Trilateral Commission.