#404 - Epstein Files NEWEST, Bondi Replacement WORSE & Israel-Trump Divide WIDENS | Julian Dorey

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Julian Dorey Podcast #404 Summary
Epstein Files NEWEST, Bondi Replacement WORSE & Israel-Trump Divide WIDENS
April 4, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, Julian Dorey (with co-host Joey “Deef” Deef) delivers an unfiltered, in-depth discussion of explosive new developments in the Jeffrey Epstein files, scrutinizes the recent attorney general shakeup and what it means for ongoing investigations, and dissects rising geopolitical tensions as the rift between Israel and the Trump administration widens amid the Iran war. The episode weaves true crime analysis, government accountability, and real-time geopolitics into an urgent, often fiery conversation.

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1. The Epstein Files: New Revelations and Shady Cover-Ups

Key Points:

• Bombshell Email Evidence (06:26 – 12:10)

  • Julian reads new emails from the Epstein files indicating clear, admitted knowledge of Epstein’s crimes among powerful legal and business elites.
  • Kathy Ruemmler (ex-Obama White House counsel, later at Goldman Sachs) explicitly acknowledges the scope of allegations:

    “The problem is always the same. 94 girls were teenagers... I understand the instinct of your friends, but nothing short of a full and complete mea culpa is worth doing. And legally you can't do that, at least not now.” (09:10, Kathy Ruemmler email via Julian)

  • Julian and Joey emphasize that Ruemmler’s language fully acknowledges Epstein’s predatory crimes and her willingness to assist him post-scandal, raising questions about legal ethics and institutional complicity.
  • Joey confirms Ruemmler’s subsequent career at Latham and Watkins (a major law firm) before joining Goldman Sachs after 2020.

• The FBI’s “Missing” Safe (12:34 – 26:40)

  • Business Insider revealed diamonds & hard drives from Epstein’s NYC safe went unaccounted for 5 days after an initial FBI search (13:01).
  • The safe’s contents (diamonds, cash, passports under fake names) were left behind because agents lacked a specific warrant; when they returned, everything was gone.
  • Epstein’s accountant, Richard Kahn, received the suitcases and claimed never to have looked inside before passing them to the FBI (20:49); Julian and Joey openly mock the incredibility of this account.
  • Notable moment (21:53):

    “Yet he's so known and trusted that the fucking house manager... gives the secretive items to the doorman – not only Richard Kahn, but his doorman... Some of the unsung heroes in New York are doormen.” (Julian)

  • Julian reflects on the repeated pattern: private investigators and attorneys spiriting away evidence and the persistent destruction or disappearance of potentially damning material.

• Patterns of Legal Obstruction and Privilege (30:33 – 32:49)

  • The show covers similar patterns stretching back to 2008, where hard drives from Epstein’s Palm Beach home were removed by a PI firm before police could seize them.
  • Julian speculates about the legal protection offered by attorney-client or professional privilege, and the moral bankruptcy of hiding evidence connected to systemic sex crimes.

• Accountability for Epstein’s Facilitators (34:18 – 38:05)

  • Both hosts express skepticism that Kahn or Epstein’s attorney Darren Indyke will ever face prosecution, despite apparent perjury and active role as Epstein “money men.”
  • Satire on the absurdity of such figures supposedly following U.S. law:

    “Epstein was definitely trying to follow the law... that's a real law abiding citizen.” (34:19, Julian)

  • Dark, cynical humor hammers the broader theme: the financial flows from sex crimes quietly fuel greater abuses of power and military action.

Timestamp Highlights:

• [06:26] - Detailed breakdown of Ruemmler’s incriminating emails
• [12:34] - Epstein’s safe: The five-day window of vanished evidence
• [21:53] - “Doormen: unsung heroes” riff
• [26:09] - Tangent on legal questions about evidence tampering

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2. 9/11 Litigation, Saudi Backchannels & Epstein’s Legal Manipulation

Key Points:

• Uncovered Emails on 9/11 Civil Lawsuits (47:52 – 51:07)

  • Julian reveals a critical email from Epstein (Nov. 2016) to Refaat Al Saba, in which Epstein plots to use top-tier legal talent (Ruemmler, Ken Starr) to indefinitely delay 9/11 victims’ litigation against Saudi Arabia:

    “My idea is to have both Kathy [Ruemmler] and Ken Starr file an action asking for clarification whether JASTA is constitutionally permissible. It will tie up any litigation for five to ten years. Great move…” (49:15, Julian reading Epstein email)

  • Clear evidence of Epstein’s ongoing role as a legal “fixer” to protect high-profile clients—including parties connected to global terrorism lawsuits.

• Epstein's Access to Geopolitical Power (43:06 – 47:49)

  • Explores another much-circulated email thread: Epstein and Tom Pritzker discuss alliances among ISIS, Al-Nusra, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and their views on the 2016 U.S. election.
  • Julian tempers conspiratorial claims, noting these emails show deep insider knowledge and networking, but not a “smoking gun” for direct ISIS creation.

    “Unless I am really missing something there, I don't see the proof of that yet... But what Jeffrey Epstein does seem to be demonstrating is an intensive understanding…” (45:00, Julian)

Timestamp Highlights:

• [47:52] - Epstein’s advice on legal stalling of 9/11/Saudi lawsuits
• [43:06] - Deep-dive into Middle East power emails

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3. Attorney General Shake-Up: The Pam Bondi Debacle & Her "Worse" Replacement

Key Points:

• Pam Bondi’s Failure & Quasi-Cover-Up (51:07 – 54:23)

  • Pam Bondi’s tenure as Attorney General is scathingly critiqued: promises of transparency on Epstein, sudden reversals, and withholding of 3 million unreleased files.
  • Julian and Joey debate the possibility that Bondi was a patsy, a legally powerless figurehead installed to absorb blame but not make true decisions.

    “On the surface, from what we do know... this is a woman who also is a woman, by the way, in a case where a bunch of girls were abused, which just kinda adds a little extra awful taste…” (51:54, Julian)

  • Satirical undercurrent: Bondi is lampooned for focusing more on stock markets and presidential loyalty than legal accountability.
  • Bondi allegedly begged Trump to keep her job but was quickly dismissed.

• Bondi’s Potential Replacements: Zeldin or Todd Blanche – Bad and Worse (54:31 – 63:06)

  • Lee Zeldin: Deep ties to AIPAC and right-wing pro-Israel lobbies; likely to inhibit disclosure on sensitive Israel-related Epstein content.
  • Todd Blanche (Bondi’s Deputy, now Acting AG): Speaks with confidence but is accused of stonewalling, gaslighting, and being an even more effective “company man.”
  • Julian plays and mocks several damning Blanche press clips:
    • “If we had information, we, the Department of Justice, about men who abused women, we would prosecute them…” (57:58, Blanche)
    • “I don't know whether there are men out there that abused these women.” (58:39, Blanche)
  • Satirical recap:

    “You want to talk about a company man... a political appointee... with someone who's a more effective communicator of bullshit. That's what this guy's looking like.” (63:05, Julian)

  • Dan Bongino’s endorsement of Blanche seen as a sign of entrenched partisanship and loyalty over justice.

Timestamp Highlights:

• [54:31] - OpenSecrets breakdown of Lee Zeldin’s donor ties
• [57:44] – [63:05] - Three Todd Blanche press Q&A clips and Julian’s live roast

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4. The Iran War – Israel, Trump, and an Escalating Quagmire

Key Points:

• Mounting U.S.-Israel Tensions & War Escalation (63:06 – 85:41)

  • Julian laments the continued U.S. involvement in the Iran war, Israeli bombing campaigns, and slow-walked peace negotiations in Islamabad.
  • Israel is accused of deliberate ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon, targeting Shiite Muslims while sparing other minorities:

    “I want you to replace the Israeli government with the World War II Nazi government in your head right now. And then I want you to replace Shiite Muslim with Jews in your head... and I ask you what's the difference here?” (73:45, Julian)

  • Emphasizes the complicity of the U.S. taxpayer and the refusal of Israel’s government to contribute ground troops, pushing casualties onto American forces.
  • Reports former Blackwater chief Erik Prince believes the Pentagon is ill-prepared for Iranian resistance and massive casualties.
  • Three U.S. generals fired mid-war for reportedly objecting to further escalation/invasion (76:45).

• The War Machine, Public Distraction, and Information Suppression (63:05 – 63:50 & 93:03)

  • Julian repeatedly links the media’s drop in Epstein case coverage to the escalation of the Iran war—a deliberate “swerve” to draw eyes away from powerful people’s crimes.

    “The timing is what it is because it feels like guys like Sayer G on Twitter... putting out some reports on the Epstein file, but a lot less now, because he covers the current events... You see the volume over the past six weeks in particularly going through the floor...” (63:50, Julian)

  • Argues that U.S. foreign policy—driven by resource extraction (“gusher for the world”) and imperial hubris—breeds future cycles of violence and terror:

    “You wonder why those things are horrible... but once I calmed down...I’d be lying if I told you that, I wouldn’t be able to say, well, I know where it started. I know why that evil person became that evil person…” (85:00, Julian)

Timestamp Highlights:

• [63:06] – Argument for permanent, systemic U.S. and Israeli war machine corruption
• [73:45] – Direct Israel/Nazi policy analogy
• [85:00] – The cause-and-effect of “blowback” from imperial violence

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5. Notable Moments & Quotes

Best Quotes:

• “We are dealing with a guy, Jeffrey Epstein, who had a picture in his house of George W. Bush playing on the floor of the Oval Office like a child with paper airplanes and a couple fallen Jenga towers below him.” (49:45, Julian)
• “Doormen: unsung heroes in New York… there’s no one who holds more secrets in his soul than Deef.” (21:53, Julian)
• “Each bomb is one of those [victims]… violence begetting violence begetting violence.” (36:19, Joey Deef)
• “You want to talk about a political appointee...a more effective communicator of bullshit. That’s what this guy’s looking like.” (63:05, Julian on Todd Blanche)
• “When things like Epstein fade away... you, through no fault of your own, are being fed what’s in your algorithm...it’s the fault of the system and what we’ve created…” (61:06, Julian)

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6. Conclusion: Tone & Outlook

The hosts maintain a highly critical, at times darkly comic tone, using gallows humor and exasperated disbelief to underline the enormity of institutional failure. The conversation’s urgency is elevated by the intertwining of unresolved elite criminality (the Epstein case) and the dangerous, rapidly shifting ground of global geopolitics and war. Julian’s self-description as the “last stop at the end of the road on the boulevard of broken heroes” covering Epstein material encapsulates a mood of disillusionment, dogged resolve, and an ongoing plea to listeners: stay aware, stay engaged, and demand accountability from those in power.

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[Timestamps for Major Segments]

• 06:26 – Kathy Ruemmler emails & legal ethics
• 12:34 – Epstein’s safe & missing hard drives
• 21:53 – Doormen as cultural commentary
• 26:09 – Legal tangent: evidence tampering
• 32:49 – Private investigators & missing evidence
• 43:06 – Epstein’s Middle East geopolitics & ISIS
• 47:52 – Epstein on 9/11 lawsuits
• 51:07 – Pam Bondi critique
• 54:31 – Bondi’s replacements, Todd Blanche press clips
• 63:06 – Shift to Iran war, Israel, U.S. policy failures
• 73:45 – Ethnic cleansing in Lebanon analogy
• 85:00 – War, blowback, and imperial cycles

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For listeners: This episode is an epic, multi-threaded dissection of how power protects itself and manipulates both the legal system and public attention—through destruction of evidence, manipulation of justice, and foreign policy that sows the seeds for future violence. Entertainingly blunt, meticulously annotated, and bracing in its realism, it’s essential listening for anyone interested in the dark intersection of true crime, governance, and world affairs.

Transcript

[Julian Dorey]

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[Joey Deef]

And I'm Joey Deef.

[Julian Dorey]

How you done? That's actually a lie. His name's Darnell Thomas, makeup artist as Drewski. So let's just put that out there. The secret is now open. It's out there. My real government name. Just kidding. He is Joey Deef. But we got a good one for you today. There are somehow. There's still these, what I would call bombshells dropping from the Epstein files that now 99% of the world isn't noticing because the war in Iran is happening, which kind of seems like half the point, obviously, or maybe all the point. I don't know. So we'll be going through that. I can't hear shit today, by the way. Deep. So you may need to speak up for me. Okay. Out there. Because we just got off of a flight and my head is completely popped. I don't know why that happens sometimes. I'm sure some people out there can relate, but literally, it's like an echo coming back at me, just hearing my own Voice.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, it's a psyop.

[Julian Dorey]

It's something.

[Joey Deef]

They knew you were flying.

[Julian Dorey]

It's something. But we had it. We and I were down in Florida for three days visiting great friends Danny Jones and Matt Cox. So Matt was actually the first guy I ever personally flew in for a podcast for episode 96 back in March 2022. And then Danny Jones obviously is one of my closest friends who's got a great podcast called Danny Jones Podcast. I had been on that a couple times with Jim Diorio and Andy Bustamante and him when we did Collabs twice in 2022 and 2023. Hadn't been on there myself since March 2022. I think he put the episode out though, in April 2022. So it's nice to sit down with Danny. We will have him up here probably sometime this summer. We've been trying to put that together forever. But I gotta tell you, these. That fucking warehouse that Danny built, dude, that man, that shed mansion, fantasy factory. Oh my God. I mean, I did the AC bill in there. It's got to be like eight grand a month is insane. I mean, you know, people walk coming here. My bedrooms right there in the studio's right here. We do have a couch. Danny Jones has like a monstrosity. It's like a Scarface layer. He's got bars, he's got home theaters, he's got private bathrooms with coated doors, a full built gym, a skate park, a garage for cars, a sauna. What else is it I'm missing? You ever have to leave, right? Yeah. Absolutely insane. But great time down there in the Tampa area. Love that whole spot, minus the Scientology and clear water. Still a great spot. Clear water minus the Scientology, But Madeira Beach, St. Pete, the whole area. Love it. So it's good to be on those shows. Those will be coming out over the next couple weeks, but let's get right into it.

[Joey Deef]

Let's do it.

[Julian Dorey]

You ready to go? So I have the first one right there. Our. Our dear friend, dear, dear friend, Kathy Rumler, the lawyer for the Obama administration back when Obama was in office. The Obama fixer we've discussed, if you remember, we went through her very strange 2015 email thread with Jeffrey Epstein a couple weeks ago where they're going back and forth on things that involved potential high level White House meeting where Jeffrey's advising her. And then what was the other thing they were talking about in there again? Thief. As it pertained to Epstein.

[Joey Deef]

No, it had to do with his wife or. No, that was with.

[Julian Dorey]

That was with Peggy Siegel, the baby mama thing. See, there's so much, there's so much

[Joey Deef]

that I just remember what it was.

[Julian Dorey]

But the whole thing was. Oh, that's what it was. They, they were talking about. It was another whoops, oh, okay. Reference where they're going through a buddy of another guy who had been convicted for the second time and Kathy Rumbler. This is where it's gonna tie into what we're gonna talk about right now. Kathy Rumler, through the way they were talking there, was basically admitting her knowledge of what Jeffrey's predilections, disgusting predilections were. And now we have it in insane black and white with the latest dig courtesy of my friend Sayer G, who found this on Twitter. Sayer, as I've said on recent shows, has been putting out amazing threads of deep dive research, breaking down different email threads within the Epstein files. He's been doing it since they came out. They continue to keep coming like fire. So we're trying to get Sayer on the show, get him up here to do it. I, I, I hope to do that sometime soon, but this one de do we have it up? Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five star review. They're both a huge, huge help. Thank you. Yeah, so that's what, that's what Sayer said right there. But there's another link I have where it goes directly to the email.

[Joey Deef]

It's right next to verify my.

[Julian Dorey]

So this is from November 30, 2018. And the reason this is important is because it is right after Julie K. Brown released the big Epstein investigation piece in the Miami Herald, which re blew this case open. You know, that's what really put it on the map and what you start to see in emails after that, some of which we've covered on, on episodes we've done in here is you see a more desperate, concerned Epstein than you had in the past. You see a guy who feels like the walls are closing in on him a little bit. So this is right afterwards. He runs to Kathy Rummler and let's go down a little bit deep. I want to read the first email Jeffrey Epstein wrote. There are typos in here and some code up. Sorry, right there. Yeah, perfect. There are typos in here and some coded translations meaning like the, the HTML code or whatever it's called, change certain letters to like equal and stuff like that. But I'm going to read what he said. November 29, 2018 at 8:21pm he writes to Kathy, I think quiet is best. And again, I don't, we don't have the email before this, so whatever was said before this we don't have. But he goes, I think quiet is best. But I keep receiving phone calls from friends asking that I say something so that they use it to defend themselves. 1 and so now he's listing out like what they should be saying hypothetically. One, fought all the way to the department of the Attorney General. Two, media doesn't like it, but the charges were all prostitution related. Money for sex at my home, he says his home, but it would be like my home, like Jeffrey's home. They came to his house for $200. Acosta referring to Alexander Acosta, who at the time was still the Labor Secretary under Trump. Acosta letter detailed a defense assault, not a cooperation. Interesting. And then number four, ten years ago I made some very bad choices. Now referring to himself in the first person I received and then all caps a 30 month sentence. He follows that up with another email to Kathy three minutes later where he says serve the same as anyone else. 13 months incarcerated is the same for all persons. Sentence to 18 months, no special shortening. Second chances, clean record. I guess you know him quickly typing out the idea that now he's gotten a second chance and he's had a clean record since then. To which Kathy Rumler replies, helping out her dear friend Jeffrey here. And again, she's no longer in the Obama White House at this point. This is after Obama's gone from the White House. But this is a woman who I believe was already the chief counsel, Goldman Sachs at this point we can check that deep. But you know, someone who is still very much in the power structures of the world. And she goes, the problem is always the same. 94 girls were teenagers. That's what she starts the email with. Complete admission of knowing out front that like this guy was accused by, at least in this case, what she's saying. 94 teenagers doesn't matter. She says that they were prostitutes. It's the age. And now several have gone on record and camera. I understand the instinct of your friends, but nothing short of a full and complete mea culpa is worth doing. And legally you can't do that, at least not now. So much going on there. So first of all she's telling him, like in an attorney capacity, you can't be opening your mouth and saying anything here because it could incriminate yourself and open yourself to other new cases, civil cases, potentially criminal cases that haven't Been prosecuted or maybe weren't a part of that sweetheart deal at this point. And secondly, she's saying, I'm well aware that you were accused by all these underage girls. I don't care. They were prostitutes. That's how she puts it. Her word's not mine. She literally says the awareness of all the teenagers that he's sleeping with, which are underage children. And by the way, some of them weren't even teenagers. Some of them were fucking 12. Jeez. Okay, like, like deep. This is the other thing. I will literally see like a 12 year old girl now and I get this, this feeling of like, oh my God. Like, that is.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, that's.

[Julian Dorey]

That, that is something that Jeffrey Epstein was, was, was attracted to.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

And then you think even worse when you look at the Epstein files and you see some of these redacted photos where he's sitting with like, yeah, like I'm talking six year old children. And you hope to God that maybe that wasn't one. But it's like, yeah, it's, it's disgusting. It's just, it's. It's disgusting. And Kathy Rummeler is demonstrating now multiple times in these email threads, a complete awareness of her darling, her words, not mine, friend Jeffrey and his predilections towards pedophilia. Not towards pedophilia, of pedophilia. That's what he does. That's what he is. And yet even after something like this, she's right there, right away to help him.

[Joey Deef]

That's not good. I looked up to when she served as chief legal officer in general counsel. It was, it wasn't until 2021. 2021, it was. She joined in 2020, but 2021 to 2026.

[Julian Dorey]

Got it. So that's when she went to Goldman.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, she went in 2020.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah. So after the Obama administration, from 2016. 21. Do we know where she was?

[Joey Deef]

Let's see.

[Julian Dorey]

She probably became a lobbyist or something. I can't remember. I know I've looked at that before, but I can't remember. And then, oh my God, this next one.

[Joey Deef]

She was a partner at Latham and Watkins.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah, Huge, huge, huge, huge law firm. Huge, huge, huge law firm. Okay, this next one deep right here, the Epstein safe. So Business Insider put out this story. We Mike Benzed it. Archive is so we get access to it. The title is Diamonds and hard drives from Jeffrey Epstein's safe. Went missing for five days. Now we know where they went.

[Joey Deef]

That photo, man. Oh, yeah, that's like, that's a That's a sinister one.

[Julian Dorey]

You know, I hadn't seen that.

[Joey Deef]

He just took out the garbage.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah.

[Joey Deef]

You know, and he's like, hey, turn that off.

[Julian Dorey]

All right, so the FBI left behind. I'm gonna have some color commentary on this, but I want to give you guys the details right here, because essentially what this is gonna be is that I haven't seen. There was a safe that they opened up when they had their warrant to go in there the first time, but they didn't have a warrant for the safe, so they opened up the whole safe. They left everything on the floor, and then came back with a warrant five days later, and poofa was gone. Amazing. Just completely gone. But the FBI left behind hard drives and diamonds from Jeffrey Epstein's safe when they raided his house. Epstein's account. Remember our friend Richard Kahn we were talking about last week? Thief. Yeah. He's. He's about to make another guest appearance on the show against his will. Yeah, Happy to give him the credits here because he's a liar. But Epstein's accountant, who gave them to the FBI five days later, told lawmakers how he got them. Another deposition sheds light on hard drives that went missing from Epstein's Florida home. FBI agents raided Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan mansion upon his July 2019 arrest. They used a chainsaw to open a metal safe in. Inside, they found a pot. And this is just what's reported as having been found, by the way. Okay, so could be stuff missing from here. And I suspect there are. How many cups of coffee or energy drinks do you need per day to stop from crashing or even to stop from feeling nicotine withdrawal? I may not be a nicotine guy, but from an energy perspective, I get it. That's why I started using Ultra pouches, and they've been a complete game changer for my energy and focus levels. First off, these pouches are completely nicotine free and caffeine free, which I'm sure has you thinking right now, if they don't have nicotine or caffeine, what the hell is in them? Great question. The answer is fentanyl. Just kidding. Ultra partnered with the leading neuroscientists to design these pouches. They use clinically proven nootropics and adaptogens to deliver immediate focus and smooth energy that lasts one to two hours. More specifically, they use Infinity px, a cleaner, smoother energy boost than caffeine, l theanine alpha GPC, and vitamins B6 and B12. These are truly clean plant powered pouches designed to sharpen your mind and lift your energy, all without caffeine, nicotine or crash. While I can't speak to nicotine, it is a different feeling for sure than caffeine. Caffeine gives you this energy and when you drink a lot of it, obviously, like it's a jolt and everything. With the pouches, it's more smooth and you are a little bit more locked in. And also it's worth noting that ultra pouches have a shorter half life than caffeine, so they're not going to disrupt your sleep if you have them in the afternoon. And we're talking about a brand here that is trusted by many people around the world, including top athletes, entrepreneurs and engineers alike. Right now, you can get 15% off your whole [e-mail] that link is in my description below. When you use promo code julian at checkout, that's takeultra.com promo code Julian for 15% off your order. After you purchase, they're going to ask you where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them I sent you.

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[Julian Dorey]

Inside, they found a pile of loose diamonds, cash, passports with the disgraced financier's photo under different names because you know, everyone has that. Again, def. You got at least 27 passports. We were taking inventory of that the other day.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, well, again, Thomas Deep.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How's your espanol these days?

[Joey Deef]

Bueno.

[Julian Dorey]

Okay. All right, good. Yeah. Make sure you have that in order. You never know when you're going through Ciudad de Mexico. Yeah.

[Joey Deef]

Hey. Porque espanol.

[Julian Dorey]

How you doing? All right. So because the agents didn't have a warrant to seize the safe's contents, they left them in the middle of the floor with the hard drives and binders piled on top. Agent Kelly McGuire testified at the criminal trial of Epstein's co conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. So this was also public testimony where they admitted this. And this just kind of went right on. Under the rug is again, there's no cameras in federal court.

[Joey Deef]

Khan. What a lying too.

[Julian Dorey]

Oh, oh, lying doesn't even begin to.

[Joey Deef]

But you know what I mean, like if this is, this is public was hit was his knowledge of this public through this. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah. So. So now, now it's uncovered. But like that's what I mean. The balls dude on Darren and Dyke, personal attorney and Richard Kahn, personal accountant to Jeffrey Epstein to go into these depositions and say the things they did in recent weeks which again we covered it last week but it went under the radar because everyone's focused on the war right now. The balls of them to go on record with Congress and provably lie over and over and over again is insane. Or, or here's the ordif or the other option of them telling the truth and what would happen to them punishment wise, maybe below the.

[Joey Deef]

Well, I jumped. I jumped ahead of you. Read that, read that last paragraph. Because I was like, oh shit.

[Julian Dorey]

Oh, it's coming, it's coming. But what I'm saying is maybe they're so worried about certain people killing them or killing their families, disappearing things and stuff like that that they're like, you know what? I'll purchase myself for Congress and if I go to fucking away for five years, at least there's not gonna be a problem with my family. That's I. I'm pure spec.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, it's pure spec. Pure spec.

[Julian Dorey]

But I don't know. One plus one usually equals two in my book. Five days later, when the FBI returned to the mansion with a new warrant in hand, the safe's contents were gone. Later that day, the items were handed over to the FBI in the form of two suitcases, because that's what you hand over this stuff in by Richard Kahn, Epstein's longtime accountant.

[Joey Deef]

Damn.

[Julian Dorey]

The episode has fueled speculation among watchers of the Epstein story amid broader concerns about COVID ups and under an undue influence in the case. Oh, I wonder why. Why Khan took the safe's contents and what he did with them has been a mystery until now. In his March 11 testimony before the House Oversight Committee, Khan said that the safe's contents passed through three different people before coming into the FBI's possession. Let's keep scrolling. In a deposition made public Tuesday, Khan said he was informed of the raid by Merwin Dela Cruz, the manager of Epstein's Upper east side mansion, who said that he packed the safe's contents into into two suitcases and left them with Khan's doorman in Manhattan. When the FBI broke into Epstein's home, they broke down his door so his door could not lock. And the Alarm could not set properly. Khan told the committee, when Merwin, the house manager, was at the house, he realized these items were not safe to be left alone. Cause, you know, I'm sure he was gonna take very good care of them, comparatively speaking. Khan, who wasn't in New York City at the time of the raid, said he took possession of the items three or four days later. He testified that he brought the two bags into his apartments, into his apartment and didn't look inside them. You know, he just. Incredible discipline. He's got a star client in fucking prison. In an international story for sex crimes. And now he has two suitcases that contain potentially all this data that can incriminate him. And he wasn't curious in the least to so much as unzip it and take a look. No one. No one would ever know. Richard. Richard. No one would ever know. Could have looked.

[Joey Deef]

Could have squeezed a little something, too, bump that rate.

[Julian Dorey]

But, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Joey Deef]

I saw it was in the suitcase. 35%.

[Julian Dorey]

This is a guy who had some control of the estate. You think he couldn't.

[Joey Deef]

Come on, Biz.

[Julian Dorey]

I mean, biz Biz, Richie, Biz, baby. Come on. So I never touched them. I never opened them, and I left them in my dining room. I wonder if he had, like, kids, like, playing fucking Hot Wheels in there. I don't know.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, you can see the shot of the camera slowly pushing in. It's just like suitcases on a spare chair and the kids are running past it. And like a birthday cake gets lifted.

[Julian Dorey]

And it's the hard drives with the secrets of the world.

[Joey Deef]

Literally. Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

You know? Yeah.

[Joey Deef]

Just in a dining room in New York.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah. And reminder at the same time. Hard drives and things that were allegedly recovered by people. Nypd were so bad that guys, they're literally off themselves as a result of having access to it.

[Joey Deef]

I didn't even know that.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah.

[Joey Deef]

Wow.

[Julian Dorey]

It's dark. It's dark. But Richard. Richard had incredible display. And again, this is the same guy who, in his testimony, said he knew nothing of the crimes. He was just an accountant. And he was horrified by everything that happened. Yet he's so known and trusted that the fucking house manager. The first person he thinks to give this secretive items to the doorman are fucking not only Richard Kahn, but his doorman. Yeah, he entrusted Richard's doorman.

[Joey Deef]

I kind of get that.

[Julian Dorey]

I kind of get the doorman.

[Joey Deef]

Like, they hold it down, especially in those nice buildings, bro.

[Julian Dorey]

But still crazy huge shout out to the. To the doorman. In New York City. Because I'll bet the doorman really didn't know what was going on here. By the way, he's not reading on that kind of stuff. I'm gonna defend.

[Joey Deef]

No, you just gotta shut. Shut your mouth. Open the door.

[Julian Dorey]

But Richard lives in his building. Oh, the nice accountant. Yeah, man. He walks a dog with his kids. He's so nice. It's my job to protect him. And he held it down.

[Joey Deef]

Doorman has a made up story that he's related to James Khan. So he's like, I gotta take extra care of him. I'm a huge fan of his brother.

[Julian Dorey]

That's right. 100%. So they don't even spell it the same, does it? Yeah, we don't need our doormen to spell. We need them to be able to hold on to shit for safekeeping. But seriously, Dave, that's one. Some of the unsung heroes in New York. Yeah. Are doormen.

[Joey Deef]

And they. And like, they're one of those things that's not getting phased out by AI.

[Julian Dorey]

No, no, I def. I would. Doorman or dudes I fuck with doorman.

[Joey Deef]

Me too.

[Julian Dorey]

I will defend those guys.

[Joey Deef]

I almost did that as like a little gig at one point when I

[Julian Dorey]

needed to be a doorman when I need to work. Yeah, you were still Darnell.

[Joey Deef]

No, this was. Yeah, I mean, I would have been

[Julian Dorey]

very clean as a doorman.

[Joey Deef]

Darnell pulling up. I would have done like the Spice Adams, like, hit the kick before I walk.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah.

[Joey Deef]

But no, I almost did that as a job at one point. Well, that would have been good story for another podcast.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah, we're going to have to really dig into that. You would have been good.

[Joey Deef]

I got very close and then I was like, what am I doing?

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah. There's no one who holds more secrets in his soul than Thief. You know, I really don't know anything about him. I know the Darnell piece. That's about it.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

Yes.

[Joey Deef]

It's for. It's for the memoir.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah. Now you're scaring me. Now you're scared. You know where I. Don't give me that. You know where I was born? I don't want to. And you know what? They don't want to know.

[Joey Deef]

I'm just kidding.

[Julian Dorey]

Everyone's confused as to your origin story.

[Joey Deef]

No, I just. I'm one of those guys who has funny stories where I'm like, yeah, dude, I was almost a doorman.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah.

[Joey Deef]

Like, oh, yeah. And they're just like, how the fuck did that happen?

[Julian Dorey]

No, it is just a bit. Because in all honesty, like, thief is Deef is another, like, Forrest Gump type person.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah. That's a good way to put it.

[Julian Dorey]

He ended up at weird times in interesting places around interesting things, or like, two degrees of separation from interesting people, both good and bad.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

In strange jobs. Yeah. You also had some very good. What's the term I'm looking for again? I'm a little slow today. Forgive me, but you had some very good early calls of like. Yeah, not for me.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

Something definitely where very good. Hot. Takes that later. Looked scalding hot, for sure. So I got to give you a cry. Like, basically, if there's some shady shit going on, have this guy go take a look at it. Like, if you suspect there is, and he'll be able to tell you.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

That's kind of how I appreciate that.

[Joey Deef]

I take pride in that. I'm a detective deep down.

[Julian Dorey]

Good. All right, let's keep going on this because it's just fucking whopped, so. Reach by Business Insider, Dela Cruz declined to comment. Danielle Rusmanna, an attorney representing Khan, the accountant, declined to comment. Beyond Kahn's testimony at Maxwell's trial, McGuire testified that the context contents of the suitcases, quote, appeared to be all of the items that had been previously located in the case. Appeared to be. Also a hard drive. Could appear to be the same hard drive. But, you know, you don't have Jedi mind reading to know what the files were on that if you didn't look at it.

[Joey Deef]

I don't want to take you on a tangent, but I have one question.

[Julian Dorey]

Sure.

[Joey Deef]

Is because they didn't have a warrant for the safe, is this not like tampering of evidence?

[Julian Dorey]

Oh, of course. I mean, again, maybe our lawyer friends. Yeah. Are way better suited. They're definitely way better suited to answer some context on this in the comments and if we can take a look at that. But this is the first thing I was thinking.

[Joey Deef]

I was just thinking of my house got raided and like, I did something like this in my head. I'm like, oh, I'm. This is. I'm fucked up. This is evidence. I just took evidence out of.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah.

[Joey Deef]

You know, so I'm just very confused.

[Julian Dorey]

And I think that's the part I was going to is like, oh, is there attorney client privilege or whatever? But my question is, once the house is raided and the house had a warrant on it. Right. And it's an active crime scene. Okay. They didn't have it. Here's the legal question. They didn't have a warrant for that specific case for that specific safe, which also was confusing to me because I'm like, if you have a warrant for the house, doesn't that. Isn't that supposed.

[Joey Deef]

I guess they treat it like a trunk.

[Julian Dorey]

I guess maybe. I don't know. Again, help us in the comments. Lawyer friends. But if they know that they don't have a warrant for it, they had a warrant for the rest of the place. It's an active crime scene, and they leave things there to be continued based on forthcoming court orders to be able to legally look through things. Constitutionally speaking, are you, as someone within the network of the people associated with said house, meaning an Epstein, someone who's the target of the criminal investigation, are you legally allowed to try to clean that up? But deep. Here's the thing. It was not the first time they did this. Surprise, surprise. Just scroll down a little more. Let's go back to.08. They already knew the plays because they had written the playbook years and years and years before the missing Palm beach hard drives. We've heard about these before, actually. This one. Some of this is not new. This has been discussed by, I believe, if it's been a while, but I think it's some of the. I forget the guy's name, but the guy who's the sheriff in Palm beach county right there, who investigated the original case before it was, like, ripped away from him and all that. I think he's discussed this before and other people who were associated with that investigation. But the testimony released by the committee on Tuesday also sheds light on the fate of computers removed from Epstein's Palm Beach, Florida, house shortly before police officers executed a search Warrant there in 2005 during a local investigation into his interactions with underage girls. Florida law enforcement officials never found the computers. Conveniently, the investigation culminated in a plea deal that allowed him. We know that whole thing. Okay, let's go down. Scroll down. Thief. Oh, sorry. Yeah. And then in a March 19 deposition with the House Oversight Committee, Darren Endyke, Epstein's longtime personal attorney, said he Learned after Epstein's 2008 conviction. Conviction. So he learned after the conviction over three years later. Again, this is his personal attorney who didn't even know these details. Allegedly, he said he learned after that conviction that the hard drives were in the possession of Riley Caroly, a private investigations firm. In an October 2005 memo released by the Justice Department as part of the Epstein files, firm co owner William Riley told one of Epstein's lawyers that an employee had retrieved computers from Epstein's home, among other Items of quote, potential evidentiary value, unquote deep. Do you remember when we covered four or five weeks ago, the storage units around the U.S. yeah. That the FBI had never even searched that were holding a lot of shit. I wonder if some of it, like it was in their possession. It says right here. I wonder if at some point some of it or all of it ended up in those units. Wow. And here's the other thing again. I don't have any experience with this world. Maybe people in the comments can help here. Of course, if you are a private investigator, I imagine it falls under the same oaths as like financial advisor, doctor, stuff like that. Like you are, you have client privilege and you don't reveal things. Where's the line on that though? Because you know, there's a line with a. There's a line with a priest. If a priest hears someone's confession and someone says that they're going to go kill someone, I believe the priest is allowed to break that confession. And that's like literally religion.

[Joey Deef]

Same with doctors. Anybody? Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

So if you are Riley, what was the name of the. Riley Karali.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

The private investigations firm.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

And you get possession of this potential evidentiary stuff and it has on it what we know it fucking had on it. I mean, we can spend pure spec here, but I mean, yeah, it's. I think at this point it's pretty clear it's going to have awful ritualistic pedophilic crimes. To what extent I don't know. But probably the worst. It's going to have insane blackmail of powerful people, including people, of course, who are engaged in some of these things, not just Epstein himself. It's good. It's going to have this. If that comes out that that was on that. Is there a way that Riley Corali can be held liable for withholding that even if they had tried to hide behind the attorney client or not attorney client, but the fucking client privilege.

[Joey Deef]

The whole thing. Yeah, I mean the whole thing's shady. Also, why did a private investigation firm have it? Who hired in a private investigator?

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah, he would have hired him there. He would have hired him there for sure. Now actually, here's a second pure spec level. Were they a whipping boy private investigation firm? Meaning Jeffrey Epstein has his own private investigators like oh, I don't know, say Black Cube. And Black Cube then has a bullpen, if you will, of little tentacle smaller private investigations firms that they can give jobs to to remove themselves one layer from it. Because Black Cube for people who are unaware is a world famous Infamous, however you want to say it, private investigations firm founded by former big air quotes members of Shin Bet and Mossad. And they have done private investigations for people including Harvey Weinstein and many other, you know, not great people, of course, but pure spec. Just saying feel like maybe that might have been in play here.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, might have been right. Might have been right.

[Julian Dorey]

But when you look at a guy like Richard Khan, having just testified all this stuff, he said. One. I mean, one of the funniest things he said, it's not funny, but it's like kind of sinister. But he's like, I made the wrong decision in staying with Epstein. As if he's like, just figured this all out now. Not like he was carrying out evidence in suitcases that was taken from his house after he was arrested for the worst sex crimes known to men. He also said he could not have operated. Epstein could not have operated without him. Or. I'm sorry, The House oversight Democrats revealed after. After doing the deposition that their takeaway was that Epstein could not have operated without Richard Khan because he was effectively moving around the money. And it sounds like in accordance with also Darren Indyke, from a legal perspective as a personal attorney. But basically they were saying the trafficking ring had the money man. This. This is the money man. And then he also admitted under oath, same guy who's like, yo, I. I knew nothing about the crimes or, you know, the, the Jeffrey Epstein sick predilections or anything like that. I'm, you know, he just says, Here's $10. What do I gotta do with it? Of course, to remain within IRS standards, Jeffrey Epstein was definitely trying to follow the law. Right. I mean, that's a real law abiding.

[Joey Deef]

That's the best way to do it now.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah, talk to the accountant, be like, you know, Richard, I want to make sure as a patriotic American, we're following every single thing correctly according to the IRS standards, constitutional standards, whatever you want to say of the American government. Because I just love it so much.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, it's like the, you know how, like they always put out the IRS every year. If you're a drug dealer or this or that, let's make sure you file properly. It's like, hey, if you're a human trafficker working with some of our constituents in the office, please make sure to file within the guidelines, because human traffickers

[Julian Dorey]

make really good money.

[Joey Deef]

Yes.

[Julian Dorey]

And we have a lot of missiles and bombs that we have to drop in unnecessary wars on a lot of brown people in the Middle East. And so in order to do that, Money is green and wherever it comes from, as an Uncle Sam patriotic American, it is important that we extract, speaking on behalf of the government here, the correct taxable payments from even the not law abiding citizens.

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[Joey Deef]

There's such a dark metaphor to that.

[Julian Dorey]

Please do share. Like each.

[Joey Deef]

Each. Well even if it's not children, just any of each person that's being assaulted in this manner is being dropped back down to earth in the form of a bomb. Like each bomb is one of those cases, you know, and like their, their end is an explosion that's hurting someone else. Just violence begetting, violence begetting violence. You know, all that shit. Pretty crazy.

[Julian Dorey]

That's wild. I never thought of it that way. I don't know why I just thought

[Joey Deef]

of it right now as it's darkly

[Julian Dorey]

genius like on your part to think of it not doing it.

[Joey Deef]

No, no, no, no, totally.

[Julian Dorey]

But like you can't even get justice for these victims, many of whom are probably dead.

[Joey Deef]

Right.

[Julian Dorey]

Because the awful things happen. I'm children. But then the COVID up is one thing.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

The power, the people being in power to make these decisions who shouldn't be able to do it because they're a part of it is another layer. And then the fact that money like this made its way to the government not to give restitution to victims or anything like that. Not that money ever.

[Joey Deef]

Or, or even to just help like poor people. Any, you know, anything, anything productive in. Benevolent or productive.

[Julian Dorey]

Instead you could follow that money ledger on a balance sheet and find its way into it. Yep.

[Joey Deef]

It's literally a body for a cartridge. Like a body for A shell.

[Julian Dorey]

Oh, it's awful.

[Joey Deef]

It's fucked up.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah. It's gonna be interesting to see if Richard Kahn and Darren Indyke face charges because these are the two most obvious people. Well, that's actually maybe a stretch, but like among the most obvious people that now just at a, at a base level of clearly perjuring themselves should be in shackles. Yeah. And they're not. Clock sticking. They're not. I have a ton of other stuff on Epstein here. Deep. Some of it we won't get to. Some of it we're going to do next week.

[Joey Deef]

Okay.

[Julian Dorey]

I didn't even tell you about some of these things I was looking at, but there's just a lot of it that's also like kind of in the news as well. But one thing that also went totally under the radar that I held off from last week and I do not want to hold off this week is exactly what you just pulled up, Dave. Katherine Herridge's report over at Catherine's at CBS now. Right.

[Joey Deef]

I can confirm that.

[Julian Dorey]

Am I making that up? Can we, can we confirm that? Katherine Heritage has always been a really solid investigative reporter who tries to do things, as far as I can tell, like really down the middle. You know, just go get the fact she's been around a long time. So someone, someone who's been from the mainstream world who I, I think is, is, is pretty damn good. But she went through emails and also then brought in an intelligence analyst to like break it down with her.

[Joey Deef]

She. She left CBS in 2024 and now she. That's like under the LA Times Media Group.

[Julian Dorey]

Okay, all right, so she was at cbs. No, she's not. But basically there are emails that seem to show. And I, and I would agree. I think there's links to the emails down there as well. Thief. I don't know. It's. It's somewhere in there. But we can find them. Just take a look on, on Twitter. I should have, I should have had that for you. But I'll, I'll explain the context before we get there. But basically what it shows is Jeffrey Epstein. I forget who he's talking with directly, but he is almost like giving legal advice on how to put the 911 victims case against the Saudi government through court and acting as like a go between between and the people trying to set that up in the US which is like darkly like the victims themselves. Like Jeffrey Epstein's acting is like a backstabbing go between. Between them and the Saudi government. Yeah, here we go. Where he's advising on how to make sure this, this can gets kicked down the road and is then legally put into a position to where you can't get a result or an admission or something like that for at least 10 years or something. So he writes on now that's the, that's the ISIS one. That's. That's not it. Type in Herridge9, 11 emails. The ISIS one is, is a weird one that I, I can give a quick preview on that while Deep's looking that up right now. Like, there's been this email floating around for weeks and weeks and weeks now that I haven't talked about yet because I still can't wrap my head around it. But yeah, I'll come to that. So people trying to say, like Jeffrey Epstein admitting in an email that he had direct, I don't know, like some form of direct contacts to ISIS and groups like that. Al Qaeda, I believe as well, and that therefore it was proof that it was a. That it was literally manufactured by guys like him and governments like the Israel and the US I still don't see that in that email as pure proof. You know what, let's put. Since I'm talking about, let's, let's get that done right now. Let's, let's. You already had that up. So this is, this is the email chain in question. I'm gonna read you exactly what is said so that you guys have full context. But the first emails from Monday, September 5, 2016. So keep in mind this is a couple days before the. Or is it a few weeks? I think, I think it's a couple weeks before the Donald Trump grabbed him by the tape drop, the Access Hollywood tape and all that. But this is like peak of Trump versus Hillary leading into the 2016 election. He's having this discussion with Tom Pritzker. So Tom Pritzker writes on September 5, 2016, can we blow this up Defense?

[Joey Deef]

Yes. Yeah. Let me just pull it to my desktop.

[Todd Blanche]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

Cause Pritzker is also demonstrating some knowledge there and we've talked about Tom and who's now resigned from all his positions. All right, so scroll down. Perfect. Okay. So he says, yes, there is a trade cat craft name for this administration's approach, referring to Obama administration cluster. When China began building bases in South China seas, we ran freedom of navigation cruises. This is a technical process that describes which of the ship's systems are on and which systems are off. Obama orders it done. Pentagon sends over the details. And Susan Rice views the systems on slash off, not as a protocol, but as a Menu of options. She overrules the Pentagon and orders which system she wants on and off. In effect, White House diluted challenge for which Freedom of Navigation cruises were designed. He had a foreign policy strategy that was articulated at Cairo. It's a failed strategy and he failed to change when the failure was clear. Would like to think that a who referring to a who Barack thought when he first heard at Cairo. Would like to think what Ahud thought when he first heard this at Cairo. Good example was complete withdrawal from Iraq military, diplomatic and economic, followed by passive support for Maliki, who was then who then slaughtered Sunnis and made ISIS a rational alternative. Is there anything below there? No. Okay, so that's that. Jeffrey Epstein responds and this is why it set off people's alarm bells. He responds, Nusra referring to Al Nusra Front, isis, Al Qaeda, Jabba, Hamas, the leaders all prefer Donald Trump, meaning referring to Donald Trump Wild. And then Pritzker immediately responds, they know Hillary. Hillary likes blowing people up. Epstein comes back and says Turkey gives Nusra a heads up on Iraqi recruits, which is now implicating Erdogan. And that on, you know, playing on different sides of this issue vis a vis places like Syria and Iraq slaughter. Russia gives Erdogan heads up on a coup which was referring to the failed 2016 Turkey coup. US gives a pass on ISIS to Palmyra. Assad has no support, so we'll stay nuclear base in Turkey. Soviet defense in Iran, Saudi and Yemen. Egypt about to lose all financial report support. Jordan has 1 million refugees, as does Lebanon. Also my guy tho born Jaglan, who I think is the Norwegian guy, Secretary General Counsel of Europe will be here this weekend as well. Pritzker responds yes till Thursday or he responds in New York tomorrow through Friday. But morning dinner, Hyatt strategic retreat. Are you in New York? And Epstein says yes till Thursday and that's the end of it. So people were putting this around on Twitter with written in text captions saying proof that Epstein knows who set up ISIS and was a part of doing it. Unless I am really missing something there, I don't see the proof of that yet. I'm not saying that this isn't something that happened. I'm saying if that's the email we're going off of, there's nothing there that in a court of law is going to even come close to having a jury need to deliberate. In my opinion, what Jeffrey Epstein does seem to be demonstrating is an intensive understanding of odd underground, if you will, strategic alliances between recognized and unrecognized referring to, like, terrorist groups alike throughout the Middle east and how they kind of all tie together in weird ways, which was following up a full explanation of Tom Pritzker going through why he believes Obama's strategy was completely failed in the Middle East. It's fascinating in the sense that we are seeing what kind of geopolitical chops or inside baseball or whatever you want to say. Jeffrey Epstein seemed to have access to or have himself. But it, it. There's no, like, smoking gun there on any of that. So if you guys know something else in the comments that you know we're missing, or there's some other emails related to that that specifically show, like, yeah, this is how we set up isis, or this is how we set up this or that, where Epstein's talking about that or people around him are talking about that. Please direct us to him. But that one on its own, I don't see as a thing. Now, do we have the Herage emails related to 911?

[Joey Deef]

I can't find them. The ones that you were mentioning.

[Julian Dorey]

We're gonna pause real fast. I'm gonna get them. Okay, we'll be right back. All right, we're back. I got it. So the email in question that I was trying to find as it relates to Catherine Herridge's report is from Nov. 26, 2016. Default. Put it on the screen. I have it in front of me right here. And it's from Jeffrey Epstein to Refaat Al Saba. And he says, my idea is to have both Kathy, referring to Kathy Rumler, former White House counsel, and Ken Starr, formal legal counsel to the United States who was involved in Bill Clinton's impeachment trial in the 90s. File an action asking for clarification whether Jasta is constitutionally permissible. It will tie up any litigation for five to ten years. Great move. So without going too far into the nitty gritty, like bar by bar, explanation by explanation to confuse people, when he's referring to Jasta and some of these other legal terminologies and legal rulings that are pertaining to what he's explaining, basically what he's doing here is using the advising on how to use the legal system to tie up claims on this. Saudi v. Or 911 victims v. Saudi Royal Family or Saudi government. 911 lawsuits for years in court by advising them to file things that like the families to file things that are going to do that, perhaps under the guise of them not realizing what that's going to do, which buys them more time to find Other ways to try to avoid any deeper digging or try to get to a settlement or something like that so that this doesn't cause a problem and bring down a whole potential house of cards. Remember, we are dealing with a guy, Jeffrey Epstein, who had a picture in his house of George W. Bush playing on the floor of the Oval Office like a child with paper airplanes and a couple fallen Jenga towers below him, or block towers, whatever they were, you know. And we are dealing with a guy who, among the 3 million files that are missing, that Pam Bondi, more on her in a second. Is apparently never going to release, includes an entire tranche from 1999 to 2001 that is ridiculously redacted, which just happens to be the years leading up to and including 9 11, which was the most seminal event of my lifetime, that caused this really basically everything that's happened since in some way or another. And so now when you have him 15 years after that event, advising, not as a lawyer, but using the legal system and referring to extremely powerful people that he say can help with this quote, unquote, what I'm gonna call inside job, it certainly lends even more questions about what we're missing from 1999 to 2001. I just thought this was an interesting report. Check out Katherine Herridge's full. Like, there's a one minute clip there deep, but there's a full, like 20 minute sit down. She does breaking this down. Very, very informative. Good stuff. Shout out to Katherine. But I said I was gonna get to Pam Bondi, my favorite Attorney General of all time. We've got some real GE in my lifetime, that's for sure.

[Joey Deef]

A lot of good Italians.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah, yeah, it's just some awesome people. Then there was Fast and Furious Holder, you know, all that. This is just a lot of great Attorney Generals. But Pam Bondi, who, you know is. Is an enormous fan of the Dow and the stock market and making sure that that's all up, because that is the job of the Attorney General. I was unaware of this, Steve, but the Attorney General is supposed to make sure the stock market only goes up, up for everyone in America. And in doing that report directly to the President to make sure that that happens, you know, that's just. You learn something new every day. And Pam Bondi did teach me that, so I appreciate it. But Pam Bondi apparently went into Trump's office the other day and begged like a dog to keep her job. And Trump was like, nip you fat. And so as we sit here recording on Friday night, There is no official replacement yet. I'm gonna get to that in a second in the speculation there. But as the epitaph, if you will, on Pam Bondi, in her defense, she's not playing with a full deck. This is not, is not. I don't know how the she got through law school. I don't know if she blew somebody, I don't know. But clearly not playing with a full deck. When you listen to this woman talk. The one part that I will always want to know, and we will probably never find out though, is how much responsibility she actually has for the COVID up. And I, I don't mean for this to sound like a defense of Pam Bondi. I mean, you heard what I think of her. I think she's a. And good riddance. But I do wonder sometimes about the patsies that exist in high places like this to where things that you want to do or things that you have the legal chops to be able to do, or the case to make, or the constitutional authority and constitutional responsibility to make are not allowed to happen because of black hat type things behind the scenes that we can't see. I will, I have to give that creek in the doorway to everyone, including people I don't like, like Pam. But. And I'm curious about that. But on the surface, from what we do know and what we can deal with, this is a woman who also is a woman, by the way, in a case where a bunch of girls were abused, which just kind of adds like a little extra awful taste in your mouth to that. But this is a woman who came out and was telling everyone, we're gonna release the files, we're gonna do. I got it sitting on my desk, I got all these awful videos, this proof, whatever. And then boom, overnight was like, yeah, no, there was. First of all, we're not gonna release the last 3 million files. That is directly against the law that was literally passed. She's legally not allowed to do that. So I, you know, she may have to answer for that in court and I won't feel bad for her when she does. But like, not only are we not gonna do that, but by the way, he was not a spy. He wasn't really a trafficker. He didn't traffic to anyone. He was just a fucked up, deranged pedo. And some of the stuff I said that, that in the past that we had on him, we didn't really have. There was nothing there. It's like, don't. It was the only, you know, she's Italian, It Was the only thing. It was the older time, you know, don't worry about it.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, she's about.

[Julian Dorey]

No, no, no, no, don't, don't worry about it.

[Joey Deef]

She's about as powerful as Cash. If I was a betting man, yeah,

[Julian Dorey]

that's a low blow, but yeah, no, yeah, I think you're probably right. Either way, people like Pam Bonnie and Cash Patel

[Joey Deef]

were.

[Julian Dorey]

If they are just complete puppets who were not put in a position to do anything, which could be the case, they were awful front facing figureheads to put up because these are people who struggle to have any type of likability or communicative confidence anytime they opened their mouth in these respective positions of Attorney General and Director of the FBI. Cash. But I'd listen if I had defend Bondi for a second. Cash is on a whole nother level that, that guy. But like Bondi was particularly cringe and we wish her well. As Tim Dillon would say, we're moving on. But her replacement, believe it or not, could be worse. There are at the time of this recording, two potential candidates. One of them is Lee Zeldin, former Republican House of Representatives Congressman from New York, who very conveniently, by the way, you know, you just go to opensecrets.com if you scroll down there right deep. Who this guy from the Financial Services Committee, Foreign Affairs Committee. Keep that in mind for one second. But, but who were his Top contributors in 2019? 2020. Go down. Oh, look at that. Top of the list. Only six figure contributor, a pack right below that. Republican Jewish Coalition. You get the picture here. Probably places that are backing people that don't want to see nothing about nothing that could incriminate the Israeli government in any way, to say nothing of my own government here in America who's incriminated in the Epstein files significantly as well. Not a great look if that's one of the guys that you're looking at bringing in. The second guy though was Bondi's deputy, Todd Blanche, who is currently right now the act of the Acting Attorney General. Whose name has he been named officially Acting Attorney General, or is that still reportedly. I don't even know, but we're gonna have a few clips of Todd Blanche here because, you know, why have me hang him when he can just hang himself, no pun intended, when we're referring to the Epstein case, and of course we don't mean that literally or anything like that, but this was Todd Blanche answering questions at a press conference on behalf of the DOJ in recent months. So we're. These are all from Recent months as it pertains to, like the Epstein files blowing up. But let's start with this particularly cringe clip. Deep run it. Thank you. You said this is the end of the Epstein, of your review of the Epstein files. Yeah. So just to clarify, or is the public going to learn the identities of the men who abused the girls with the information that you're releasing? And if not, why not? And then I have a quick follow up.

[Todd Blanche]

I mean, you just baked in an assumption into your question that I have never said and I don't know to be true. Is the public going to learn about men that abuse these girls? Like, what does that mean? I mean, I understand what that means.

[Julian Dorey]

Well, I mean, the men who abused

[Joey Deef]

the young women through Epstein's.

[Todd Blanche]

We said in July and it remains as true today as it was in July. If we had information, we, meaning the Department of Justice, about men who abused women, we would prosecute them. Right. We talked about the work that we're doing. That's why I said that I said this earlier. There's this built in assumption that somehow there's this hidden tranche of information of men that we know about that we're covering up or that we're not. We're choosing not to prosecute. That is not the case. I don't know whether there are men out there that abuse these women.

[Julian Dorey]

I don't have no idea. All right, let's run the next one deep. That can't get worse, right?

[Joey Deef]

I don't think so.

[Julian Dorey]

Wrong. This is with Jesse Waters. This one you got to turn up big time. It's lowball. I'll turn it up in the Post edit as well. Good. Who is it?

[Todd Blanche]

Who is Epstein spying for? Look, everything. I don't know that he was fine for anybody. Nobody's ever said that.

[Julian Dorey]

No. You don't think he might have been

[Todd Blanche]

a spy for a foreign country? I have no idea if he was a spy. All I know is that we don't have any evidence in the Epstein files that the FBI collected over 15 years that suggests that Jesse. I don't know. I wasn't part of the original prosecution team. Neither was Attorney General General Bondi. And I can tell you this. There's only one President that's held Mr. Epstein accountable, and that's Donald J. Trump during his first administration, that was the administration that prosecuted him. And during this administration, it's the administration that's been told and released all the files. And no matter how much criticism people want to make about the Epstein files, that is indisputable it's undisputable that nobody talked about the Epstein files for four years during Biden. Four years.

[Julian Dorey]

That's right. I've heard.

[Todd Blanche]

And so when President Trump.

[Julian Dorey]

Let's get to the third one before I absolutely level this guy's entire foundation of life. I see. I need, I need one more to warm up. Oh, oh, and then I have a special guest appearance from another friend as well. Let's get this one, though. Running deep. So this is another recent clip where he's being asked about the Epstein survivors. And Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch says,

[Todd Blanche]

we're working hard to make sure that we fix that and I expect that that will continue. Will more documents be released? We have released. There are a small number of documents, as I said on Friday, that we're waiting for a judge to, to say we can. We're allowed to release because of a protective order. But there. This, this review is, is over. We've reviewed over 6 million.

[Julian Dorey]

There's nothing else to look at.

[Todd Blanche]

Thousands of videos, thousands. We've gone through it all of images and. Which is what the statute required us to do. You know, it's interesting. Leadership on the, on the Hill, Congressman Massie, Senator Schumer are quick to complain. There is no.

[Julian Dorey]

Oh, let's just Rip Massey.

[Todd Blanche]

They have spent any time looking at the materials we produce.

[Julian Dorey]

Oh, they spent no time doing.

[Todd Blanche]

I've heard we produce them on Friday.

[Julian Dorey]

Okay, one more, one more. Before, before I go all the way in, I just, I want to point out the quickest endorsement for Todd Blanche. Pam Bondi's body wasn't even cold yet. And Dan Bongino steps in from behind the mic and says, oh, God, this guy sucks. Number one is the dag, the deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche. He is now acting. I have had nothing but great relationships with Todd. Everything we did with Todd, whether it was summer heat, restoring justice, enduring justice, CI cases, public corruption cases, I have had nothing but good dealings. Number one, I think Todd would be a great replacement. It's up to the President. He is ferociously loyal to the President. He defended the President. He left an extremely prestigious, well paid position, just like me.

[Joey Deef]

Private law.

[Julian Dorey]

Knowing he was going to be targeted for the rest of his life by Democrats. Targeted by Democrats.

[Todd Blanche]

And he did it anyway.

[Julian Dorey]

He did it anyway. Hero. There's his formal. All right, get. Get him off. You got to get. Fuck you, Dan Bongino. All right. So good, so good, so good.

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[Joey Deef]

He's so brave.

[Julian Dorey]

Here's one problem with Todd Blanche that without getting into the many problems in the litany of those clips right there, he is a far more confident, well spoken, Pat. He says that shit like he believes it. If you watch that first clip we did where he's at the press conference and he pretends to not know what it means about a guy potentially assaulting young women as it pertains to the Epstein files and the reporter looks at him like he has 10 heads and can't believe that he has to actually explain this to this guy is, I mean, you heard the report like, well, I mean, and he starts explaining, you see, telling, uh huh, uh huh. Like he's nodding at him like, you're the slow one, not me. Like incredible talent of gaslighting. Have to give him that right away. You want to talk about a company man, you want to talk about a political appointee, you want to talk about somehow taking a step backwards from a Pam Bondi also with someone who's a more effective communicator of bullshit. That's what this guy's looking like. I remind you, somewhere along the way, we lost the identity of what an Attorney General is within a cabinet of a presidency. The Attorney General if, like, I don't have the full definition up in front of me right now, but the broad legality of it is that the Attorney General is supposed to operate independently. They don't operate independently of like being in the Cabinet. They're in the cabinet. They're, I believe, a part of the people who have a vote within the cabinet to invoke something like the 25th Amendment and stuff like that. It's not like you're saying they're powerless within the Cabinet. But when it comes to prosecuting people who break the law, or a better way of saying it, upholding the law, the rule of law in the United States, as the top attorney in the fucking whole government, they're not supposed to take directions from the president. And yet in my lifetime, goddamn near every attorney general, and definitely every attorney general for the last two decades has done precisely that. Let me not just pick on Pam Bondi here or the potentially incoming Todd Blanche. All right, They've all done it. We've told the story a million times about John Ashcroft even, who was lying on what was near close to a deathbed in 03 when Dick Cheney went down there and made him sign something while the guy's on a fucking ICU monitor, you know, and he might have actually not wanted to sign that, by the way. There was. That was like all. And he didn't sign that one, I believe. So like he actually stood up, I guess at the time. But like Eric Holder operated completely at the beck and call the. Of the Obama administration. We got proof on that. Our friend John Kiriaku has been on the show many times, was someone who was on the losing end of that one provably in emails, you know, and now it's just become publicly accepted that that's what it is. But you even saw Jesse Waters, chief propagandist for the Trump administration on Fox News. Second to nut most insane propaganda tweets for this Iran war of anyone that I've seen from the media not named Mark Levin. You know, like even he at the beginning of that one was like, really? And then, yeah, of course he let him talk for like the next minute and just took it. But like, come on, people. Like, this is what I mean. And this is why it's not to just be a conspiracy theorist, which nowadays seems to be a fucking compliment, by the way. You know, to be like, yeah, you know, the timing of them starting in Iran war at the end of February. Pretty, pretty interesting. Yeah, pretty interesting that we're. We're doing this now and we're gonna talk about that in a minute. In the latest updates. More disasters this week and I, and I hope to not be reporting on disasters, by the way, regardless of what I think of the war. I hope to be reporting on war winding down one of these weeks or things where fucking Americans aren't dying or being. Or being taken hostage and stuff like that. But here we are still now six weeks into what was gonna be a top so four week war and now it's another two to three weeks alleged. Just. It's never ending. We've seen this movie over and over again, don't learn anything but like the timing of doing that and the caricature that has been created of the whole operation. And I hate to say it like that either because it's just so disrespectful to the men and women in service. The fact that a war could possibly be described that way because it is not their fault. I've said that a million times. I will say that to him. Blue in the face. That needs to be reiterated over and over and over again. This is the fault of people in suits in Washington D.C. and Tel Aviv, you know, but like particularly Tel Aviv, it is impossible to not think that the timing is what it is because it feels like guys like say or G on Twitter to some extent still Mario naw fall, you know, putting out some reports on the Epstein file, but a lot less now because he covers the current events. And I think he tweeted about that like, oh, Rip Epstein file files. You know, because of what's going on. And. And there's other accounts like the Epstein. One of them's called like the Epstein file search, which is a great account that's constantly tweeting on all these updates and things going on. So there's still people covering it and talking about it. But you see the volume over the past six weeks in particularly going through the floor on this as continued depositions and insane data keeps coming out. It continues going through the floor. Now. There's people who pointed out that on Google Trends in the weeks leading up to Iran, meaning before an attack happened, it was already falling off on search terms as it pertains to Epstein files. But I could show you Vid IQ and YouTube and the data that we look at back here and it was still pretty fucking strong at the time. And I can see, by the way, based on the fact that people are still engaging heavily with these episodes where we are covering that as a part of it and we've done a longer time this week so far because there was just so many fucking things there. You know, I can see people out there want it, but when the algorithm feeds all of us, which includes me and de information, if we are not getting it put right in front of us and then you don't work in a job like me and def, where our job is to go fucking look for like that is what we get paid to do, to find that shit, to bring it to you guys to judge for yourselves. If you are sitting there, and you are paying your bills and putting food on your table, and you get to spend a little bit of time each day looking into things. You, through no fault of your own, are being fed what's in your algorithm, which means those are the things that are most searched or most in the news right now. So when things like Epstein fade away until you get maybe my video or a few other people who are still posting about this on your feed on a random day in the week, you're not hearing about it. Not your fault. It's the fault of the system and what we've created and the fact that this shit is so obviously done in front of us to move the public away from things that just aren't very good for the pr. So, again, we're going to continue to cover that for sure, just. Just as we have today. But let me. Let me cook on this Iran war, which is obviously to take nothing away from it as a story. It's a critical story. It's just the genesis of it being created is my point. You know, know the war that is particularly sinister potentially to me. But another week of pure chaos, another week of Joe Kent vindication. I talked about it last week. Joe Kent has been continually, continually clear on this, in every appearance and every tweet that he's put out, referring to the problem with the strategy of being able to wind these things down when you cannot put yourself in a position to restrain the Israelis. Once again, I talked about the Pakistani connection last week. We now saw it play out again with even more proof when. What was this guy's name again? Deep. I don't even remember how the fuck to pronounce it. They've killed so many of them. The Israelis just targeted the latest person that allegedly JD Vance in particularly was negotiating with, Kamal Karazi. Was that the one? Right, right, right. Yes, that was the one. So his home was struck on April 1st or 2nd, and it was struck by Israel. His wife was killed and he sustained serious injuries. Also breaking news right before we went on air today, Wall Street Journal owned by Rupert Murdoch, who also personally advised the President to bomb Iran before the war. No conflict of interest there, of course, by the way, but even the Wall Street Journal is reporting that Iran has rejected all US Proposals at this time for peace and is not meeting with the US In Islamabad, Pakistan, to negotiate. And I remind you, because, of course, Deep, righteously so said right away. Well, you know, why would they when they're just getting killed? And I was like, well, this is actually the one place where Maybe they couldn't get killed because they'd be sitting there with US diplomats and Israel couldn't possibly hit that one. Right? Right. But even that they're saying no to. And this is while the United States continues and Israel continues to bomb the shit out of the country. And again, I can't even believe I have to spoon feed this every week. Just as like the not to you guys, but to people who would try to pick apart what I'm saying. Meaning like people that don't like me or people that have an opposite opinion on the war. The IRGC sucks. Iran's government sucks. It's been 47 years of hell for their people. I wish their people all the best and I hope they get rid of that government at some point. It ain't that simple though, because you are dealing with a regime that did not pose a threat to America in any type of major, existential, by any stretch way leading into this war. They demonstrated that as a paper tiger over and over and over again. And the war was prosecuted because Israel wanted it. And by the way, over this past week, Israel said they're not going to commit any ground troops to a ground invasion of Iran. The war that they push for, the war that they continue to bomb the shit out of the country from the skies on against US Interests, including on some of the very types of things like it, like energy infrastructure that the US had said on March 23 through Donald Trump that we didn't want to bomb over the next five and what eventually turned into an extra 10 days or something like that, directly sticking a finger in the face to the United States government who pays them and say now we're going to do it anyway fam and they're not going to commit troops Israel to the Iranian potential ground invasion here. And I say potential and I really hope it's potential that is never foreseen. But we're sitting here and by the time this comes out tomorrow, unfortunately maybe it's already a reality. I hope it's not. But when you're talking about potential ground invasion and Israel saying they're not going to put troops there, it is because they are busy putting troops in South Lebanon taking land and they are doing by their own admission. Do we have the clip of Israel cast? The defense minister I talked last week about Finance Minister Smotrich talking about Israel having the land up to the Litany river in Lebanon. This week it also came out that Israel has been advising the Christian and Druze D R U Z E communities in southern Lebanon that They can who are minority groups there that they can stay in their areas but that they want them to advise the Israelis on any Shiite Muslims who are staying behind. What, what is different? Like I want you to replace the Israeli government with the World War II Nazi government in your head right now. And then I want you to replace Shiite Muslim with Jews in your head in World War II. And I ask you what's the difference here? Because Israel cats as you're going to see, we shouldn't even play this because it's in Hebrew and, and it translates the the quotes. But if you can X out deep just right there so we can see the, the caption and give you an idea. What he said is that they are the Israelis are going to occupy southern Lebanon and prevent 600,000 people from returning home. And he said that Israel will demolish the homes just like they did in Gaza. This is ethnic cleansing, period. There's no, it's, it is objectively ethnic cleansing. To my friends out there listening who may be, you know, Zionists or support the existence of Israel and all that, that's a separate issue right now. When you look at this situation, regardless of where your allegiances are, the current government in place that was elected by a minority of the people in Israel, by the way, a minority of the people, many people there don't like it. The current government is taking actions that by def a fucking mission are the very things that their own ethnicity has fallen victim to in very public horrifying ways in the past. And our taxpayer dollars in America are not only technically supporting that through our financial aid to their military and arming of them, but they're doing that and then not even helping us in the fucking war that they want in Iran. Let me add something else to the mix here. Former guest on the show Eric Prince, you all know him, founder of Blackwater, former CIA knock which he was outed illegally about that that wasn't public information. Then Leon Panetta outed him and that was a whole thing, whole separate story that was back in episode 305 people could check that out. But Eric Prince, who is no fan of Iran, to be very clear as the same opinion of Iran as I do, like their government. Eric Prince is talking about what a disaster this is. He talked about the fact that no invasion should have ever happened in the front. No attack should have happened in the first place. Here, here. But now Eric Prince, who regardless of what you think of him, is one of the world's smartest military strategists there Is like that, that's just a fact. I know people have a lot of different opinions on Eric, but like that is what it is. Eric Prince has been breaking down what a ground invasion looks like. And he said referring to Carg island, which is the island we've talked about that is strategically most important as it relates to oil, is the island that Trump has bombed all the military infrastructure on but has kept the, the oil pipelines basically untouched to this point and has talked about invading. We're going to talk about that in a second. He refit. He officially started kind of inching towards that without saying it today as well. But Erik Prince said on Carg island, your quote, your initial assault is going to be mighty thin. A mass drop of the 82nd Airborne. That's pretty sporty on Iran. They are highly intelligent, highly skilled war fighting nation. It would not be the pushover you saw with the Iraqi army which also, you know, the vacuum we created there didn't end well. Will on FPV drones, he says Iran has implemented them down to squad level. The same drones destroying Israeli tanks in Lebanon right now while this is all happening. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth has fired three major generals in the Pentagon this week, one of them being the Army Chief of Staff. Why is his name getting away from me? Why do I do that? General Randy George, I should have had that right at the outset, but General Randy George was basically, I believe it, the terminology was he was asked to step down, to which he immediately complied. And two other generals were fired as well. Deep has this up right here. General David Hodney and Army Chief of Chaplains Major General William Green Jr. According to Reuters, have also been removed. Removed in the midst of a major war, highly unconventional remove. Three major league generals, including the fucking Army Chief of Staff while you're in the midst of this. And the reports are, and again there's some level of speculation here, can't say there's been recorded conversations that can prove this. But the reports in the media are that these guys have been removed because they are arguing against the ground invasion in, in Iran. These are hardcore hardened military generals who were not a part of the I, I don't think you make the argument here like they were part of the old woke general regime as they were calling it. All those people hag, Seth and Trump like removed got rid of. These are real deal dudes, real deal military strategists. I can't sit here and tell you I know their life stories. I know all their successes and stuff like that. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, expert on all their individual accolades, but they are in high level positions in the middle of a hot war and in all likelihood based on speculation of why this is happening, arguing against the ground invasion in Iran because it will be a massive, massive mistake that includes U.S. casualties. And by the way, deep before the ground invasion. We're off to a fucking great start. You see a plane got shot down today.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

And thank God allegedly the, the crew, the United States crew on the plane is alive. But there is a mass search underway as we speak. Hopefully this has come to a good conclusion as it relates to my country, America tomorrow when this comes out. But like, I don't know, there is a search across the country at the behest of the IRGC for people to find these pilots who have fallen out of the sky. And there is a, what was it, a $60,000.

[Joey Deef]

10 billion to man. Which is. 60,000.

[Julian Dorey]

Yeah, 60,000. Roughly $60,000 to any citizen who locates the downed American pilots. Iran just turned off its entire, just turned its entire civilian population of 93 million people into a search party, which is also. This is where I have to get to some spec because I am not on the ground in Iran and I don't fucking know. All right? And that needs to be said. Anyone who's talking to you from a comfortable studio in America that tells you they know the vibe of all the people on the ground is lying to you. I don't know. But on the tea leaves that you and I can see publicly based on how this has transpired so far, of course the United States and Israel has done significant damage to infrastructure and military armaments and stuff like that in Iran. And I believe some of that reporting as well. I've also seen videos of some of it. That's very clear. But like it would appear, and I'm going to say it like that, it would appear that while I'm sure there are tens of millions of people in Iran who still to this day fucking hate the current government and would love to see them overturn, it would appear that the actions taken here have actually fomented a little bit of extra support for that regime that previously wasn't there. Again, a very, and I do believe this is pre war, a very minority part of the population was reported in the area of 20% of the population supported the current government prior to this war. And that might have even been a high estimate. I didn't expect this. Tick Tock has more short dramas than I could ever Finish each episode leaves you wanting the next. Download TikTok now and try it. But what I'm saying is that reading the tea leaves, it would appear it might be more than that. Now, it doesn't mean it's 50%. Not saying that. But like, if anything, it has had a backward effect. And the confidence of this government, who has a bunch of their leadership getting picked off like sitting ducks one by one to say fuck you to the United States proposals and keep this thing going tells me that they feel like they can stand up to, I don't know, a 50,000 soldier ground invasion by the US and maybe. And by the way, now I'm really getting into spec. Huge asterisk ahead of this.

[Joey Deef]

Maybe spec.

[Julian Dorey]

Maybe they don't even care about. Now, if in said ground invasion there was actually some success of United States forces extracting anything related to any type of uranium they may be working on with a nuclear bomb, maybe they've even decided they don't care about that. It's about like, yo, we can actually use this moment to get more support within our country to be able to stay in power after this. And that's better than anything. Who cares about the new maybe? I don't know. I don't know. But like this whole, oh, we're gonna go in there, we're gonna mop the floor. Remember Christopher Moltisanti when we were invading Iraq? We're gonna go in there and we're gonna mop the floor. Yeah. With. With the Iraqis and all that. It feels like that's what the US has been saying again.

[Joey Deef]

Yeah.

[Julian Dorey]

And it hasn't happened. And also, this started under the guys deep. And I'm gonna say it like that, under the guise of we're here to liberate the great people of Iran, which you'd like to think that's what they were doing it for. Of course, cynically, you're like, no way. That was day one. And now on day 34 or 35, whatever it is, we've reached a point where it's now, oh, what was that tweet Trump put out today with like the. Watching something new explode? I don't remember what it was where he's like, this is your choice now. We're, we're gonna, we're gonna send you guys to the Stone Age. Pete Hegseth is tweeting out back to the Stone Age, just like that. And Trump's tweeting out that we're going to destroy everything and make it unlivable. So are you helping the people of Iran. That, that sounds like you're, you're fucking them into perpetuity. You are collectively punishing them for their regime that you don't like. And I don't like it either. But like, what's your objective? That's another thing. What is the objective?

[Joey Deef]

Yeah, no one can explain that.

[Julian Dorey]

Donald Trump came out the other night and gave one of the worst speeches I have ever seen him give. His monotone completely not entertaining in any way. There wasn't even a time where you had like a funny, like Trump laugh. Even if the whole thing was terrible. It was, it was like the most boring 10 minutes ever. And someone on Twitter summarized it, one of the analysts summarized it perfectly. He was like, basically, Trump just gave a chronological retelling of like the last two weeks worth of his true story social posts. He didn't give any new information. He didn't say anything about any real strategy. He talked and oh, we've been successful like never before using all his regular, we're almost there. We're very close, we're very close, very close. And you know, now a few days later, there's potential for a ground invasion, which was already on, on the table when he was doing that speech. And people thought maybe he's going to say we're not doing that or we're doing it, which would have been worse, you know, but that is now hanging over us. And now he put, I put the link in there deep. He put out a tweet about the straight of Hormuz. It's under straight ahead Hormuz right there. You'll see the, the one tweet he put out. He put out a true social about it because that's been a whole thing he tried to say in his speech the other night. We don't need the straight out Hormuz. We, we have oil everywhere else doing whatever. But now he tweets out with a little more time or true socials out with a little more time. We can easily open the Hormuz straight, take the oil and make a fortune. It would be a quote gusher unquote for the world. President Donald J. Trump. Well, I don't see the distance between that and the thinking of Dick Chubb Cheney and like, yeah, oils this incredibly important resources. I'm not arguing that, but like, at what cost, at what cost to go take it, dare I say, imperialistically for yourself, regardless of who you're taking it from, you are creating on a silver platter future prop, not current and future propaganda. You are radicalizing an entire next one, two, three generations through the actions you're taking to do this. And you are now saying the quiet part out loud that, like, again, If you got a big dick, you don't have to tell people. And this is like the worst kind of way to be. Like, oh, I got a big dick. It's like saying, yeah, I can come take your lunch and eat it too. What are you gonna do about it? And maybe he's thinking, well, I'm saying it to a bad regime. Okay, but like, what about the people there who aren't the regime, who a future economy would be based on that? You're basically saying, yeah, we're gonna come in because you guys had that regime. We're gonna come in and take all of it because we're the US and we can just do that. You wonder why somebody wants to blow up buildings 10 years after things like this, or, you know, mass shootings, have. Whatever it is. You wonder why those things are horrible. And I don't. I condemn them in every term. Don't care who's doing them. But I've talked about it so many times before in other contexts, and now I'm just watching one play out live. Instead of talking about past things we've done, now I'm watching things we're doing in the present present. When those. If those things, I want to say it like that. If those things were to happen in the future, and let's even make it personal, if it affected me personally and people I loved or, you know, God forbid, we're somehow victims of that, of course I'd be so angry. I would want total revenge, all that stuff. But once I calmed down, even if I still wanted that, that I'd be lying right now if I told you that, I wouldn't be able to say, well, I know where it started. I know why that evil person became that evil person, why they decided this was the way to go. I hate them for it, hope they're burning in hell. But once upon a time, my president wanted a bunch of oil and dropped a fucking 5 trillion caliber bomb up the ass of his camel and his whole family. And he was the living one who decided, I want the revenge. I just don't think we learn our lessons in this country. And we'll continue going through the week by week, play by play, of what's going on in the war, as I've said every week, and I will continue to say every week, I hope Monday, all of my fears are wrong. Not Monday, the one second after I sign off right now, all my fears are wrong and peace happens and cooler heads prevail. But we continue to see escalation after escalation. And I really hope when this is coming out on Saturday, we're not seeing boots on the ground or any of that stuff. But we'll continue to cover it. We will continue to cover the Epstein files. We feel like the last stop at the end of the road on the boulevard of broken heroes here covering it. But like I said, there are some amazing people online who are not getting the attention they deserve. Like a say org who are doing God's work, going into far greater detail than we are here. We're going to do our little part and then also really shout out those guys. Also again shout out to the Epstein file search account on X. It's Epstein search in at Epstein Search in. Just constantly throwing out data and pieces with government documents and everything to back it up. It's great. But we will cover all that. And then this week, obviously we were in Florida. We put out one episode. The second episode I had done with Sheriff Matt, which was awesome. And the second episode of the week I moved to early next week because I didn't finish the thumbnails for that while we were on the road. So I'm gonna finish that this weekend. And you'll be getting four episodes next week. So there will be. I believe it'll be Monday, Tuesday, Friday or Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And then we will have another JND dab as well. But thank you to everyone who's been watching this. Please continue to share this stuff with your friends. We will keep doing it. And I'm only just getting started around here. I've said that. I said that over six years ago when I started this. And sitting here still working seven days a week on it all these years later. I love what I do. It's a real privilege to be able to do it. And thank you to all of you for making it possible. Give it a thought. Give it back to me. Give it a thought. Get back to me. Sorry, I can't hear myself. Peace. What's up guys? Thanks so much for watching the video. If you have not subscribed, please hit that subscribe button before you leave as well as leaving the like on the video. It's a huge, huge help you. 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