#408 - Melania Epstein BOMBSHELL, Trump goes NUCLEAR, Lebanon DISASTER | Julian Dorey

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Julian Dorey Podcast #408

Title: Melania Epstein BOMBSHELL, Trump goes NUCLEAR, Lebanon DISASTER
Host: Julian Dorey
Guest/Co-host: Joey "Deef"
Date: April 11, 2026
Duration: ~1hr 40min (excluding ads and promos)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into three explosive current events:

1. Melania Trump's sudden, forceful public statement concerning her alleged ties to Jeffrey Epstein
2. President Trump's increasingly erratic and aggressive behavior regarding Iran and prominent right-wing media figures, highlighting internal MAGA world fractures
3. The Lebanon disaster and the wider consequences of US/Israeli foreign policy, including the catastrophic war with Iran and shifting American public opinion on Israel

Julian and Joey analyze these interconnected crises, blend firsthand commentary with cited reporting and public documents, and reflect on broader media, political, and cultural trends.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. Melania Trump & The Epstein Bombshell

[05:51–49:12]

Melania Trump’s Surprising Public Statement

• Melania appeared at a Thursday press conference, reading a prepared statement denying any substantive relationship with Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell ([06:36]).
  • “The lies linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein need to end today. The individuals lying about me are devoid of ethical standards, humility and respect…” – Melania Trump [06:36]
• Claimed all interactions (esp. a 2002 email to Maxwell) were trivial and routine, denied ever visiting Epstein’s properties, meeting him in any context other than social events, or appearing in court matters as a witness.

Analysis & Skepticism

• Julian and Deef pause to scrutinize both her statement and independently sourced documentation.
• The single public email (“Love, Melania...”) is dissected as being more familiar than Melania claimed ([09:18–13:12]):
  • “There is a be to me a beyond cordial relationship there…” – Julian [12:15]
• Melania’s own presented timeline (meeting Trump in 1998 at a party) is cross-compared with rumors/claims that Epstein or modeling agent Paolo Zampolli may have been the true introducers.
• Rumor Fact-Checking:
  • Michael Wolff’s book alleges Epstein claimed to have introduced Melania and Trump, and even more salaciously, to have been intimate with Melania. Julian and Deef treat this as “pure spec” and caution listeners due to Wolff and Epstein’s own credibility issues ([28:01–28:53]).
  • FBI documents sourced on-air—themselves based on hearsay—suggest some connection via Zampolli, but offer no smoking gun.

Contextual Fallout

• The day of Melania’s statement, Amanda Ungaro (ex-partner of Paolo Zampolli, embroiled in her own legal/custody dispute and deportation) threatened public exposure of Melania’s secrets on social media.
• Julian points to Ungaro’s allegations as possibly igniting Melania’s preemptive strike ([41:38–42:55]).
• Speculation that Melania’s tactical distancing may foreshadow greater legal/political blowback (“a disaster class”).

Media & Political Dynamics

• Melania calls for a Congressional investigation and victim testimonies on Epstein, which Julian cynically characterizes as “an add-on to be like, I’m all for transparency while trying to say nothing to see here” ([20:42–21:47]).
• They critique the Trumps’ extreme litigiousness as tone-deaf PR for people with documented Epstein links ([21:47–24:00]).
• Alex Jones’ reaction (played at [46:35]) hypothesizes Melania is breaking ranks as the Trump ship sinks—another layer of pure speculation but telling as Trump’s movement grapples with the fallout.

Memorable quote:
“You have to ask yourself if [Melania]’s trying to distance herself from the situation… because she never, as far as I know, says her husband had nothing to do with Epstein. It’s all her.” – Julian [42:55]

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2. Trump Goes Nuclear: MAGA Fractures & Iran War

[47:55–69:22]

Trump Lashes Out at Allies and Critics Alike

• Trump posts a belligerent Truth Social rant, attacking Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones ([50:52]):
  • “I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years… It’s because they have one thing in common, low IQs… They’re nut jobs, troublemakers…” – Donald Trump [52:06]
• Julian and Deef emphasize that these very personalities helped propel Trump to electoral victory and built the alternative media ecosystem.
  • “He has completely botched this entire Iran war which we should have never gotten into. He has listened to the experts like Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham, and Ben Shapiro, who all were original, never Trumpers.” – Julian [55:12]
  • Notably, his own base on Truth Social is “shredding him” [65:09]

Erratic Foreign Policy: The Doomsday Iran Standoff

• Trump threatened Iran with “the end of their civilization” if they didn’t meet a Tuesday deadline, then reversed course and agreed to a ceasefire—Julian notes relief but underscores the chaos and dangerous bluster ([70:56–71:50]).
• The administration’s pattern: shallow victories, shifting narratives, and gaslighting reminiscent of all recent US presidencies.
• Julian contrasts Trump’s 2016 personas (“He knew where the pulse was… Now, he’s doing the opposite”) with his current detachment from conservative and mainstream sentiment alike.

Memorable quote:
“…people thought they were getting Jon Snow and they got Mad King Aerys Targaryen.” – Julian [60:31]

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3. Lebanon Disaster & The U.S.–Israel Quagmire

[69:22–91:15]

Israel’s Offensive in Lebanon: Escalation & Backlash

• Israel’s “Operation Eternal Darkness” has killed over 1,500 people in Lebanon since March 2nd, including many Christians, using U.S. weapons ([70:56–75:00]).
• Israeli hardliners’ territorial ambitions (“Greater Israel”) are quoted and dissected; Julian openly accuses the Israeli government of “ethnic cleansing” and border expansion under the smokescreen of defense.

U.S. Political & Media Complicity

• Trump’s subservience to Netanyahu is hammered, with the NYT’s reporting confirming Israeli officials directly lobbied the U.S. (even in the Situation Room) for the Iran war, leveraging questionable intelligence ([79:34–79:59]).
• Julian draws the parallel to past wars (Iraq, Afghanistan): “The Israelis come to us and they give us shit intelligence to get us to do what they want us to do in the region…” – Julian [00:00, repeated at 79:34]

Media Critique

• Fox News is slammed for one-sided, militarist propaganda ([80:00]), with Megyn Kelly’s critique played:
  • “If I were a Fox News anchor right now, I’d know exactly what to do. Cheerlead… That’s it, it’s all about rah, rah, rah, go military.” – Megyn Kelly [79:59]
• Generational divisions are highlighted; older Fox viewers maintain U.S./Israeli narratives while social media exposes brutality and builds skepticism.

Shifting U.S. Public Opinion

• Pew poll data reveals a dramatic drop in Israel’s favorability among all American demographic groups except the oldest TV-dependent cohort ([91:15]):
  • “Overall, 41% of Republicans find Israel very or somewhat unfavorable. 80% of Democrats do.” – Julian [abridged]
• Julian argues these numbers understate true disapproval, given survey sample biases and high inclusion of traditionally pro-Israel Jews and evangelicals.

Memorable quote:
“If I could speak to my Israeli friends out there, that is directly the results of the current government in charge and the hardline genocidal policies that they have boldly, illegally enacted. And it bothers me even more that we fucking pay for it.” – Julian [92:30]

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Additional Notable Segments & Quotes

• On Litigiousness:
  “It’s not a good look when you are in the highest level of power to be extremely litigious... You already operate from behind in the leverage game of PR.” – Julian [21:47]

• On Conspiracies and Truth:
  “We always had to put that asterisk on things. It’s all spec.” [04:29]
  “Pure spec. But he did say he’s acting like he’s guilty, which I’ve been saying forever.” [47:46]

• On U.S. Foreign Policy:
  “Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, fucks like a duck. It’s a duck. And so I ask you again… why is this happening?” [71:50]

• On Journalistic Balance:
  “If I’m called both a MAGA Trump apologist and a lefty nutjob in the same fortnight—that means I’m doing my job. I’m over the target.” [end section]

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Timestamps for Critical Segments

• Melania’s statement and analysis: [05:51–49:12]
• FBI/Zampolli document read: [30:55–35:23]
• Amanda Ungaro threats & fallout: [41:38–42:55]
• Trump’s truth social rant and MAGA divisions: [50:52–55:12]
• Lebanon/Israel carnage & U.S. complicity: [70:56–79:59]
• Fox News and generational divide: [79:59–80:57]
• Pew poll breakdown: [91:15–92:30]

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Tone and Style

• Informal, acerbic, skeptical
• Pull-no-punches, often profane ("shit intelligence," "fucks like a duck," etc.)
• Relentless in challenging official narratives, across the political spectrum
• Open to listener correction and crowdsourced investigation

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TL;DR

Julian Dorey Podcast #408 unpacks the tangled web of the Melania–Epstein saga, spotlights Trump’s self-destructive posturing amid the Iran war and MAGA infighting, and lays bare the disastrous human, moral, and political consequences of US–Israeli foreign policy, all while contextualizing how shifting media and generational patterns are reshaping public opinion. The episode’s core theme: truth is murky, official narratives are suspect, and old alliances (political and media alike) are shattering in real time.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

And I'm Joey Deef. How you done?

[A]

How you done? Well, nothing going on in the world. Def. Not a goddamn thing.

[B]

Nothing ever happens.

[A]

Nothing happens. But you know, what if it is doomsday? We are your favorite narrators here to tell you how everything's going down. Because you know what? There is a lot going on. There's a lot going on that. Also, also, this needs to be said. I did not see that coming on Thursday with the Melania Trump thing. Oh, no, me neither.

[B]

I was like, who are we invading this afternoon?

[A]

That's what I was thinking. I'm like, which country go next? And then suddenly you get the model Runway walk out, and she don't know nothing about nothing with Jeffrey Epstein. Sketchy, right?

[B]

Sketchy.

[A]

Now, here's the thing. There was a part. We're gonna get to that in a minute. There was A part in there that we're gonna talk about less, where she talks about giving the survivors a voice and all that, which in theory sounds great. There were some survivors who felt like that was hollow and empty and was problematic. I won't speak for them. You know, they put their public statements out there. I think some others were happy about it. So kind of a mixed review. But you should always be skeptical. I mean, this should absolutely go without saying at this point. I don't know why I gotta put this disclaimer on there. But you should always be skeptical of them calling for any level of transparency, because there's been no transparency in this case, obviously. So we're gonna talk about that. We are there. There was a story I was talking about my. With my friend Sayer G, who you have heard me reference a million times on these episodes, who's just doing incredible research through the files, document by document. There's that he found that I do want to cover, but we're not going to do that one today because I have to look at it a little bit more. But pretty crazy stuff. And he and I are also, like I've already said, working on getting a podcast done and getting in here. I also do want to mention, as usual, we've been putting out two to three guest episodes a week in the middle of these. I'm going to talk later about kind of where I see these episodes being as their own show within this whole thing. It's a separate thing. But, you know, that's the heart and soul of my pocket podcast. That's what I've done forever. That's my favorite part to do. This is a nice little fun added thing because me and my boy Deep, get to roll with it once a week and go through what's going on in the world. But I'm going to continue to cover all different topics. It's just, you know, wherever my interests are. And I hope you guys are checking that out throughout the week. But we are, of course, going to talk about the updates on the war and what's going on there, because there is all kinds of he said, she said, he said, they said.

[B]

They.

[A]

Them said. He. Them boys said a lot of stuff. Yeah. You know, I call that noise. I think that's probably the best way to put it. Right? Thief. It's. It's not truth. It's just noise. It's. It's.

[B]

It's the simulation biz. It's biz.

[A]

It's really what it is. It's best.

[B]

It's just business.

[A]

Pure spec. But it's best.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Just saying. We always had to put that asterisk on things.

[B]

It's all spec.

[A]

So we'll talk about that. And the other thing is deep and I have been looking at this missing scientist story. I don't know if we're going to get to that today because there is a lot on the bone with some of the other stuff I just mentioned that we really have to get to in detail because I want to cover the full spectrum of things. But we will be getting to that scientist story whether it's this week or one of the next two episodes because there's also a lot going on there. If you haven't heard about this, these are different high level science people, mostly, mostly related to space and every time international type stuff, if you know what I mean. But the real stuff with NASA who have been dead or disappearing over the past 2 1/2 ish years, is that about right?

[B]

Thief, you call it almost three now.

[A]

Almost three now. And so it's like, is there there there? Probably. But is it everything that's being marketed as right now? I don't know. That said, there is no doubt that some of these people are people who are attached to serious, serious scientific projects. And when you see that, you don't even get a cause of death or an update on the missing persons thing.

[B]

Some of them not even publicly announced.

[A]

That's right. That's. It's not good. It's not good, it's not good. So we will get to that. But let, let's start off with our wonderful first lady, Melania Trump. Because this was on Thursday, as I said, she decided to come out and give a statement that later her husband denied having any previous knowledge of. I didn't know she was gonna talk about it at all. According to him. Whether or not that's true, I don't know. But this was really out of left field. So we're gonna play a little bit of this, react to it, play a little bit of it, react to it. But let's roll it. Beef. Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five star review. They're both a huge, huge help. Thank you.

[C]

Good afternoon. The lies linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein need to end today. The individuals lying about me are devoid of ethical standards, humility and respect. I do not object to their ignorance, but rather I reject their mean spirited attempts to defame my reputation. I never been friends with Epstein. Donald and I were invited to the same cast as Epstein from time to time, since overlapping in social circles is common.

[A]

Okay, can you pause real quick? So this is something that we've discussed till we're blue in the face on this case. Obviously, all these fucking rich people know each other in New York. They all go to these different places. And one of the huge issues with Epstein that is unfortunate for some who may not have actually known him. I'm not making a comment about Melania here. I just mean in general is that if you showed up to a place where there's 250 really rich people and you were invited there and at some point he just took a picture with you and you didn't know who the fucking guy was, people are gonna ask you about that forever now. And so naturally, you got the fucking first lady of the United States and the President who knew the guy and were in the room. Of course people are gonna be asking. And to be clear, it appears the relationship was much more than just one picture. Whether or not that means that they're guilty, that's a separate issue that we'll get to and continue to discuss here. Because obviously, I think when the at least alleged leader of the free world. I don't know if you can say that anymore, but what we call the leader of the free world is attached to in some way historically to, I don't know, the most well known espionage pedophile to ever live. Obviously you got to ask a lot of questions here. We've been asking it about people across both ends of the spectrum and we will continue to do that. I'm going to comment on that later, by the way, but let's keep it

[C]

running deep in Palm beach, to be clear, I never had a relationship with Epstein or his accomplice, Maxwell.

[A]

Maxwell.

[C]

My email reply to Maxwell cannot be categorized as anything more than casual correspondence. My polite reply to her email doesn't amount to anything more than a tribal note.

[A]

A tribal.

[C]

I am not.

[A]

I think she meant to say trivial.

[C]

Epstein did not introduce me to Donald Trump. I met my husband by chance at the New York city party in 1998. This initial encounter with my husband is documented in a detail in my book, Melania.

[A]

Okay, can you pause it right there, Deep? The first time, a couple things here you have that email of the Glenn Maxwell. Okay, so Deep's pulling up this email because she very specifically mentioned this one piece of. This one piece of evidence that she heard where. That she had seen circulating online, where it shows an email that's verified from the files where she Goes back and forth with Glenn Maxwell in 2002 and she addresses it, but then writes it off as like, oh, this is just passive kind of, oh, I talked to you once. So now we emailed or whatever. And to be clear, we. We don't have other emails of hers right now with keyline. As far as I know, this is like the only one that's come up. Maybe some people in the comments can help me there. If you found something else. There's a lot of files here. It should also be noted once again, for the millionth time, we are missing 3 million files. And many of those files, or at least a nice chunk of them, comes from the years 1999 to 2001. Where there could be a lot of correspondence with Maxwell is the reason I want to pause the video. We'll come back to the video in a second. And the reason I want to pause it and show you this email though is because she is writing it off as trivial and just like casual talk. And I'm gonna let you guys be the judge of it. Here's what the email says. Dear G, exclamation point. How art referring to Ghillen. How are you? Nice story about J E Jeffrey Epstein in New York Mag. You look great on the picture. I know you are very busy, flying all over the world. How was Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down. Give me a call when you are back in New York. Have a great time. Love, Melania. There are a lot of, you know, I, I don't like to read into text too too much. Obviously that's kind of the nature of the game when you're looking through the Epstein files to be hypocritical for a second. Like, it is what it is because you are seeing correspondence. This one though, is a solo correspondence. So it's like I don't have a ton of like Epstein and Kathy Rummeler back and forth to where you're not reading into it. It's kind of exactly what it is. And, and when I look at that email, she knows her plans, Gilan Maxwell's plans. She, Melania, knows where she's going. She wants her to check back in town in the second place where they know each other. I think she said when she's back in New York or when she's in town in Palm beach, she's asking her specific questions. I don't really put much into the Love Melania. At the end, she might sign that off with every woman she talks with, but there is a, there is a be to Me a beyond cordial relationship there. Like, I. And again, I'm not a woman. Maybe women can help me out in the comments here. But like, I'm not gonna write an email in that kind of wording with those types of questions and that kind of like, hey, let's, let's get something on the calendar to someone that I've only talked with for one second at fucking hors d' oeuvres at the latest New York City elites bashing fucking party. You know what I mean? It's not. That's a little off to me. People are full of surprises, especially when you travel together. Thankfully, VRBO is not. When you book a VRBO, you get VRBOcare and 24. 7 life support. So your house doesn't surprise you like your friends might. If something's not as described or doesn't work, vrbo's there. Real people, real support. Anytime. Book today on the Vrbo app if you know you.

[C]

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[B]

We haven't seen each other in so long. I just got back from Paris. I said, please, it will be fun. A lot of people will be there. We'll pick you up.

[A]

Okay. So she doesn't say who the friend is there at least in this screen grab everything. She doesn't go through like it was this person specifically. She just says it was a friend. Let's continue what she said deep, because there's going to be a lot of context on those rumors. In a second

[C]

paths with Epstein was in the year 2000 at an event Donald and I attended together. At the time, I had never met Epstein and had no knowledge of his criminal undertakings. Numerous fake images and statements about Epstein and me have been calculating on social media for years now. Be cautious about what you believe. These images and stories are completely false. I'm not a witness or a name witness in connection with any of Epstein's crimes. My name has never appeared in court documents, depositions, victim statements, or FBI in interviews surrounding the Epstein matter.

[A]

Okay, right there. Now she's making specific statements that relate to her. What I will say is preemptively denying accusations that are not in any way offended officially out there. Before she went on that little part there at the end of that last part we played, she was talking about online rumors. That's one thing. Everyone's got an on online rumor these days. AI pictures are everywhere. Like, if she had to respond to that with a press conference, she'd be doing a press conference 247 every single day on all kinds of different issues. So would everyone else. These statements right here, while she is not in court, she is not under penalty of perjury testifying. She is putting out on the public record very specific claims to her lack of a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein that are almost responding in a way to what I would say are perhaps a letter that was sent to her or a phone call she received with very specific accusations from someone who's not, you know, Tony Bianco 476-on-4chan it's actually someone that she knows or someone that she's familiar with or people that she is familiar with who have some alleged receipts and so she is getting out in front of it. I also want to note, Melania doesn't talk publicly a ton. But, you know, I've always felt like she's pretty right here with how she talks. She, she doesn't really. She's not up, she's not down. She's very calm and collected about it. She's. I, I've heard in the past reports that she's a little bit sensitive and, and self critical of like her accent. And that's something that's like a, a little personal to her, but she seems to rock that fairly. Okay. When I see her speak in a lot of ways she's speaking in a similar monotone kind of tone here, but maybe I'm reading into it a little too much. Maybe my body language experts out there can help me out, but a lot of blinking and a lot of heart palpitations going on here. It's the first thing I noticed when I was watching this yesterday. Like there is a, there is a nervousness to her that I haven't really seen in the past. Now if some of you have seen that in some other regular run of the mill speeches, please share those links in the comments and people can check that out for themselves. But I personally, I don't know, it looked a little different to me. Let's keep it going for one sec.

[C]

I have never had any knowledge of Epstein abuse of his victims. I was never involved in any capacity. I was not a participant, was never on Epstein's plane and never visited his private island.

[A]

All on record.

[C]

Now I have never been legally accused or convinced of a crime in connection with Epstein. Sex trafficking, abuse of minors and other repulsive behavior. The false smears about me from mean spirited and politically motivated individuals and entities looking to cause damage to my good name to gain financially and climb politically must stop. My attorneys and I have fought these unfound and baseless lies with success and will continue to maintain my sound reputation without hesitation. To date, several individuals and companies have been legally obligated to publicly apologize and retract their lies about me, such as Daily Beast, James Carville and Harper Collins uk. Now is the time for Congress to act.

[A]

Okay, let's pause. Epstein is basically in the last two minutes. This is where she calls on Congress to let the victims come forward and tell their stories on the record in Congress and you know, be able to do something that previously they haven't really had the full opportunity to do. There, you heard. At the end of that, though, she officially invoked her attorneys and invoked having shut down previously, false smears, I remind you, I don't even know what came of this, but I believe it was Melania who reached out to Andrew Callahan. When Andrew first did the Hunter Biden sit down and asked him to retract, I don't remember what it was but asked him to retract or have Hunter Biden retract something under penalty of lawsuit. And then Andrew did a follow up sit down with Hunter Biden and read off the entire letter to him and said, how do you respond to that? And I think Hunter Biden said something like, go yourself. Something like that. And I never heard anything more coming of that. And she didn't list off Hunter Biden, who's her favorite on any list, you know, or Channel 5. Exactly. On that list right there where I believe she said Harper Collins, Daily Beast and James Carville. So I feel like she would have listed that because I, again, I didn't. After Hunter Biden gave that statement, I never tracked on that again and saw what that was. But I have always thought this. It's not a good look when you are in the highest level of power to be extremely litigious. Trump is obviously extremely litigious. His wife as an extension has been extremely litigious. And what I mean by that is when you're just going after everyone and suing them, even by the way, when they are objectively wrong, you are already operating from behind in the leverage game of pr in the sense that you are the boot, you got the power, you are stepping down, they are just punching up, ankle biting at you, if you will. So it's like if you don't have anything to hide. I'm not, listen, I'm not saying you let everything go, right? Like if someone real. There's been some things in the past where I've seen Trump like file a lawsuit. I'm like, all right, I kind of get that. I, I kind of do. But then there's other stuff where like he filed some fucking trillion dollar, whatever it was lawsuit against like all the news companies to like get them shut down because he didn't like their press. And yeah, they lie about him. Like, I'm not denying that at all. But it's a bad look when the President of the United States is trying to like shut down the fourth estate. Cuz he doesn't like their stories even when they are objectively wrong. And I'll defend him on the ones where they're objectively wrong. We know mainstream media sucks. We know that they attack people that they just don't like. And whether you like those people or not, that is objectively wrong. Let, let the open forum handle that. I'll tell you one way the open forum's handled that a way that we'll get to later that Trump, whoever's whispering in his ear has convinced him that he doesn't understand this. But the fact that mainstream media gets no fucking eyeballs and people like us get eyeballs is because people can see through that. Meaning the marketplace of ideas and free Speech works. Overall, it's painful. But when people are lying and they're caught lying and they try to smear bullshit for their own agendas, which can be sinister at best. In many cases, the market works itself out. You don't need to sue them. So especially like you, you gotta read the room here to me. If you're Melania Trump and Donald Trump, you guys knew Jeffrey Epstein. There's no running from that. You always admitted. They have always admitted that as well. But the people want truth here. And yeah, she gives the nice statement at the, at the end about the victims, but that almost feels like an added. A little add on to be like, I'm all for transparency while trying to say, like, yo, nothing to see here. Stay away from it. That has a Streisand effect when you do that. And that's why I joke at the beginning of this episode where it's like, you know, you should take shit like this with a huge grain of salt, like, what are they really trying to do here? And I said that I would get to her 1998 meeting with Donald Trump, because the two people that are in many different rumors, and that is what I will call them, rumors that are based on sources who claim to have knowledge of those situations. The two. There are, there are two people that have been heavily rumored to introduce, have introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. The first one we'll start with is Jeffrey Epstein. And there needs to be a huge grain of salt on this because the person making this claim is someone that's in the Epstein files all over the place named Michael Wolf. You've heard me talk about Michael Wolf before. He's an author. He recorded all these people with their permission in 2016, 2017, while he was writing Fire and Fury, which was like the first expose book of like the first Trump administration that caused a huge shitstorm. And basically, like his main source of all the many sources he had in that book was Steve Bannon, which made no sense to me because Steve Bannon knew that Michael Wolff was like a mainstream left wing journalist. And yet Steve Bannon, who, regardless of what you think of him, is a very smart guy, scheming, let him record him for hundreds of hours or whatever it was, and then look like the biggest idiot in the whole book. And let me actually even defend Steve for a second. Let's say it was a hundred hours total. I don't remember what the total recording was. There's probably. He probably used the fucking eight hours of those that sounded the worst and also cut out an extra nine hours that might have given some context to the eight hours that would have made it sound at least a little bit better, even if it wasn't good to write his book. And yet even after that, Steve Bannon maintained a close relationship with Michael Wolf. So much so that that was a part of the connection. I don't remember the total specifics there, but like there was a three way connection pause between Epstein, Bannon and Wolf in like the 2018, 2019 area after Bannon had left the white. That's interesting.

[B]

Yeah, very right. Yeah.

[A]

So you need I say that because anything that Michael Wolf says has to be taken with some grain of salt of like, all right, what is the 7D chest here? 7D chess here. So this is, this is a tweet that came out with a screenshot from

[B]

Knoxy Love.

[A]

I believe it was Michael Wolf's book. Oh, yeah, trying to remember. We had a lot of. Lot of links. Yeah.

[B]

But this is Michael Wolf.

[A]

Yep. So it says. Can you just open up the screenshot? Let's just do that. He replied, nice guy. Got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. That was Trump talking, and I believe that was referring to Clinton. When a Bloomberg reporter asked Mr. Trump what problems he thought Mr. Clinton would face, he replied, I don't know. But that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it. Just ask Prince Andrew, he'll tell you about it. The island was an absolute cesspool. He was talking about Little St. James, which Andrew had first visited back in 1999. In 2007, Epstein told one author that he had facilitated the relationship between Trump and his future wife, Melania. The first time Donald Trump had sex. This is Epstein talking. Had sex with Melania was on my plane. Remember how she said in her statement, I was never on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. I was never on his island. Again, this is just Epstein making claims.

[B]

Just specifically pure.

[A]

It is pure spec. And Jeffrey Epstein was also a pure liar. So, you know, intel guy, what's true, what's not, you don't know. But he says, little did he know, I beat him to the punch a year before when I was at a party of New York's top models by Metropolitan Models, one of the world's top agencies. Things got wild, and by the end of the night, I ended up almost naked in the back of a limo going at it with Melania. That is Jeffrey Epstein claiming that he Melania before Donald Trump, to put it lightly like that's a big claim. That's a big could be total from Michael Wolf. But I told you, anything we find we're gonna put out here, regardless of where it is. And y' all are going to decide what you think is real, what's not, and more importantly, what we would like more information on if one day we're able to actually demand that, which we probably won't as a group of people because they view us as cattle at the meat market, obviously, when I'm talking about these elites. But that, that is what's there. And then also Deep has this up, I believe this is the original article that Melania.

[B]

No. Published April 9th.

[A]

So this is it. But it's an update to a report if you go down. This is from Daily Beast because remember, she mentioned Daily Beast as one of the people that had to retract stuff. Daily Beast On April 9, when Melania comes out with this statement, mentions their recordings obtained exclusively by the Daily Beast and published on the eve of the 2024 election. The convicted sex offender was heard bragging about his close friendship with the president and first lady. And that's really the, if you read this article, that's really like the full context here. It's just talking in in a broad measure. But wait, which one is this you're pulling up now? Deef.

[B]

This is the FBI document saying Epstein introduced Milan.

[A]

Right? Okay, so there is an FBI document as well. Where there. And this is from 2019, shortly after Epstein's the last arrest in July 2019. Where. What was the source here? Deep, can you. Can you read it? Yeah, yeah, sure.

[B]

So this. And this was on the justice.gov link, but redacted put redacted in contact with an agent named Paolo Zampoli who worked with ID models. Zempoli was trying to buy elite models with Epstein. Epstein introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. Epstein was visiting Zempoli at the agency when they were casting auditions for models. Epstein was looking through portfolios and saw a redacted photograph of her wearing only swim bottoms. Redacted and Zempoli were at a nightclub with Epstein, who was there with a woman who redacted believed was redacted. Took redacted phone number. Someone called either a girl or Epstein and invited to dinner. Redacted Went to Epstein's residence on 71st street in Manhattan. This was the first one on one interaction redacted had with Epstein. Epstein made her wait. She heard him playing the piano. Redacted did not recall if she went upstairs. Redacted. And Epstein had dinner in the dining room. This room was straight ahead when you walked into his home. Epstein asked Redacted what she liked to do. Redacted told Epstein she liked studying and that she was a good student. They talked about travels and Redacted having a model contract in Japan and South Korea. Redacted mentioned that she thought there was a lot of Russian prostitution. Epstein told her, that's what I like best, recalled Epstein saying something that made her uncomfortable. Epstein gave Redacted a tour of the house, took her to the massage room and had her lay down, took a vibrating thing and rubbed it on her. Told him to stop. Redacted described the massage room as a small, very dark room on the same floor as the master bedroom. A driver took Redacted home and she remembered being tearful in the car the next morning or a day later. Redacted recalled Epstein called her. Redacted was unsure how everything progressed from there. Epstein may have offered her an English class which attended okay, so there's a

[A]

lot going on there. K Pop demon hunters, Haja Boy's breakfast meal and Hunt Trick's meal have just dropped at McDonald's.

[C]

They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi?

[A]

It's not a battle.

[C]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Someone being taken advantage of who's also foreign probably. I'm speculating here among the Eastern European recruits that Maxwell and Epstein were famous for funneling in through modeling agencies. What? I don't the weird thing about that is that she also mentions Paulo, who is the guy I'm going to bring up now. And then after mentioning Paolo, this modeling agent throws in that Epstein's the one who introduced Melania to Trump. And I don't can you go back to that part I don't hear what her evidence was there. Again, did she provide any evidence of how she knew that Zimpoli was trying

[B]

to buy Elite models with Epstein? Epstein was visiting him at the agency when they were casting auditions for models.

[A]

But it doesn't say, because she says Epstein introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. She doesn't. And I'm not trying to attack someone who's offering information here, but there's nothing on the record as to how that would have happened. And the reason I say that is because Paulo Zampoli, who is a fucking ex modeling agent, as I said, longtime friend of Donald Trump, is currently a special envoy to. What is it again? Beef. Like, this is. This is a problem with Trump. He hires some of these, like, New York cronies to jobs that they have no fucking qualifications for. He's the special envoy to something. If you go to his Wikipedia, you can fucking see it. But this is a guy who also had a foreign wife. Nothing wrong with that. Who did not have all her papers. Yeah, he's a special representative for global partnerships, whatever the. That means. Like, like, what is a modeling agent doing for the United States government? Representing as an envoy for global partnerships? Like, are we partnering on, like, finding models to bring to the U.S. like, what are we doing? Maybe it's stupid, but that's neither here nor there. This guy had a child with a woman named Amanda Ungaro. Am I saying that right?

[B]

Thief.

[A]

Yep. Who Again, we're. We're not just going to give you the headline tweets here. We're going to give you all the context because it's more than what they were just putting out in these stories who was deported. And she was deported at the request of Palo Zampoli. Meaning he called a senior ICE agent that he knew through his contacts at the, at, at the administration and said, the mother of my child has some potential immigration issues. Deport her. It's not that simple. It's dirty. It's dirty. There's. There's nothing about this that doesn't feel dirty as fuck. But when he did that, and this is what did not make a lot of the headlines, Amanda had been arrested for fraud in the United States. Now, that could just be a nasty guy like Paolo finding an opportunity because, you know, his ex wife, or whatever she was to him at this point, you know, mother of his kid, though, who he didn't like, you know, now had a black eye on her, and so he could take advantage of that to also potentially screw over his kid. In. In the process, because he's selfish about it or whatever. But it's not like he just called up ice and said, hey, my ex wife who's chilling in her house right now, go get her. Go get her. It's not that simple. He did do that, but she had been arrested. Now let's look at the story as to why she was arrested for fraud. Because you hear fraud and you're like, oh, my God, she must just be a total scummy. This one's a little weird, though. So back in June 2025, she was arrested with a man named Joe Batista Cunha de Arroyo, who was a Brazilian doctor. As far as deep and I can find, he is a licensed Brazilian doctor. He's not a licensed United States doctor.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And so what he did allegedly, and if. If so illegally in the United States was he opened up a cosmetic clinic where he would give Botox and lip fillers and some prescriptions and stuff like that illegally down in Florida, where Amanda worked for him at the office, like managing the business and helping out with the procedures and stuff like that. And because he was not a licensed doctor in the US this is not legal, obviously, and it's fraudulent. What we can't figure out is why Amanda was arrested and charged with that. We don't have the charging documents here, but that would mean that the government, in arresting her, felt that they had proof that she was fully aware that he was not licensed in the United States and that therefore she was also fully aware that what they were doing was illegal according to United States medical codes. Loss. It's not just straight f. The point being, it's not just straightforward like, you know, she Matt Coxed a bunch of people or something like that. You know, she might be someone that was taken along for a ride here with this guy and now just went down after he was revealed. That's possible. Or she was in on it, in which case, you know, that's bad. And by the way, if she does have immigration problems, not someone you want in the country is that that would should be a criminal. It's just very dirty that this guy has the. Uses his political context to have the mother of his child deported during a custody battle, too. Yes. And it's particularly. I'm coming back to Epstein on this. It's particularly damning that this guy is such a close friend of the president and goes so far back with him as a modeling agent in the era of the Epstein files, who may have allegedly introduced Melania to Trump. Now, Melania Comes out with this statement on Thursday and at 12:51am that morning. Believe she gave the statement in the afternoon. Maybe it was 12, 1 o', clock, 2 o', clock, something like that. But that morning, Amanda Ungaro, who is now deported, I believe. Right? Like she's out of the country. Yes. Yeah. She tweeted out from her official X account, hello, Melania, I was around you for 20 years. You knew I was inside ice. And you know what hurts? After all this time, I stayed close to your family, your mother and your father, not because of you, but because of them at events and everything else. So shut your mouth when speaking about me, because I will expose everything I know. Let's get the second tweet now deep. This is another one that she put out.

[B]

Those are both the same. Let me just pull this real.

[A]

There's a sec, there's a second one. I put in the.

[B]

Both the same link, though. So let me just pull.

[A]

What? Yeah, I must have deleted the other link. That's my bad.

[B]

No worries.

[A]

If you just pop. Yeah, the Pam Bonnie one. Go back.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So Amanda Ungaro, the day before that, on April 8, added Pam Bondi, who's no longer the AG. So I, I, I'm, I'm a little confused why she was doing that, but she said, Are you already aware of the situation? Do you fully understand the extent of the information I possess regarding you and the individuals associated with you? I strongly advise you to consider the seriousness of these matters. Any actions taken against me or attempts to escalate this situation could have significant legal consequences. I expect this to be handled with the appropriate level of responsibility and professionalism moving forward. And she posts pictures of her, her and her child, and a newspaper link, and there, you know, there, there is some sort of like, underlying, listen up, motherfucker. Below there now, again, this is a scorned woman, too. She's had everything taken from her. I don't know, for kids with her, that, that part is unclear.

[B]

Well, if they, if they were in a custody battle and he did this,

[A]

I assume kids in America, she's not with her kid. She has lost everything. She's angry. She knows that this case is a problem for the White House. She's known these people a long time. She could be making stuff up or she could not. It's bizarre. It's messy and it's bizarre. And so when you see Melania come out and make such an aggressive preemptive strike like that, you have to ask yourself if this is what it's related To. And you have to ask yourself also if she's trying to. If in that process she's trying to distance herself from the situation, because she never, as far as I know, she never specifically says her husband had nothing to do with Epstein. It's all her. Is that right, thief? Yeah. Okay, again, we're recording this continuously, so if there's something in there that I missed and you guys found, please put that down below. I always want to say that we're doing our best around here, but we make mistakes. So as far as I know from that statement, it was all about her. And then Trump makes the claim, oh, I didn't know she was going to talk about this. The timing of it, like all things, is very sus. This, this, this is a disaster. Class. We're going to talk about it in a minute. With, with the Iran war and what's been going on here, it has been. Right now, Trump has completely lost his marbles. There is just objectively no other way to put it. We're gonna get to some of the lashing out he's done and the people he's lashed out at. This just blows my mind, you know, and the people he's listening to, which makes no sense, and the reports that are coming out from mainstream sources, they usually kind of COVID this stuff up about, you know, the implications of how he was pulled into this war and what happened. You know, it's, it's all messy, it's all noise, there's people, there's rats scattering off the ship right now. But the fact that the war broke out and many of us speculated that the timing was like, yo, let's fucking do this to get this story off these Epstein files, cuz this shit isn't going away now. It's like, oh, the Iran shit's so better. You bring it back. The Epstein files. Or did Melania just go full blown? I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna protect myself and not go here. Let's pull up the Alex Jones commentary on this deep. Which I don't know who Alex Jones's sources are here, but it's interesting that a longtime Trump confidant and supporter would be saying this. Here was his reaction to multiple things, including what Melania did, but at the end of the day, I just feel sorry for him and pray that God touch his heart and soul and free him from the demonic influences that he's under. I mean, it's just that simple. This is a nightmare. We know the Democrats, the left are absolutely terrible, but when Trump's calling for wiping out whole civilizations and acting like a super villain. I have to come out and say I don't support it. It's that simple. So again, Trump's own wife came out at an unannounced press conference today and said the Epstein crimes are real and that she wants the victims to be in front of Congress to cover up to him. That's the opposite of what Trump Trump saying. Looks to me like she's breaking with Trump because she knows the ship sinking, has found out the truth. Elon left eight months ago saying he's in the files as a cover up. I never saw any evidence of it, but he's acting like he's guilty. We know he's protecting Howard Ludnick, who said he didn't know. I've seen him go to the island. He did. So all I can say is this is terrible day and it's a nightmare for America in the world, but I'm going to tell the truth, report on the facts, no matter what it is. Yeah. And you know what? Kudos to Alex Jones for at least giving a stream of consciousness there. You know, obviously whenever you look at people who are left or right wing reporters, there's always bias, there's always political bias and agendas. I always look at it with a huge grain of salt, especially a guy like Alex. But, you know, I mean, he called for Trump to be 25th the other day after that tweet about civilization. We'll talk about all that in a minute. But like, yeah, that sounds like a little bit of pure spec, rather than sourcing what he's saying about Milani. Yeah, that's right. That sounds like classic Jones kind of pure spec, 100% where he doesn't, you know, we say pure spec around here when we're just pure spec.

[B]

Well, it's just funny that he'll, he'll make pure spec that like she's breaking off from him. But then like the next sentence, like, I haven't seen any evidence that he could be linked to this stuff, you know, But I went to Calyx. Why don't you start specking on that one time, dude.

[A]

Spec on that one too.

[B]

Spec on that.

[A]

He's that. He did say he's acting like he's guilty, which I've been saying forever. Yeah, been saying it on podcasts forever. You just, you have to look at it and be like, like if I brought in any high powered defense attorney who was willing to talk on this and just rolled tape of Trump talking about this tape about Epstein over the past nine months.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think I'd be hard pressed to find an attorney who wouldn't say his behavior is reflective of someone who has something to hide. Yeah.

[B]

Just to ask, hey, if he was

[A]

your client, you think he did it? Yeah. Or not even just that. Like. Like, would you be telling him to shut the fuck up?

[B]

I think they would all be saying that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Very least.

[A]

Yeah. So we're gonna watch the Melania thing. We're going to see what precipitated that. I. I actually think we will find out through reporting because everyone in the world's working on this right now what precipitated her doing that. And if it was Amanda Ungaro in particularly. That's what we're speculating based on the tweets we're seeing. Could be more than that, or it could be something else entirely. Again, I also. I don't. I don't think I believe that Epstein story about Melania. That's a big. That. That's a big, big claim. And it's coming from Michael Wolf and Epstein.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, again, it's fun when. When the whole house is Elmo. Fire me and burning. Yeah. But I still got to do my best to be like, you know, where. Where's my red alarm tangling? Like, I don't know. And again, if in the future we see evidence, it's like, oh, that's true. I'll tell you. All right, well, got that one wrong. Or now we know more information. But that's a big, big old claim right there. But you heard us allude to it with Alex Jones. There's. I know deep. You and I were working on that True Social story. I can.

[B]

We can.

[A]

I want to look at that more. Yeah. Before we actually talk about that.

[B]

There's a. There's a There.

[A]

Yeah. De found something interesting as it pertains to certain things going on. On. On True Social. That is just. Let's just say from a window shopping perspective, not exactly what you want to show in the front sales window. Right.

[B]

It just kind of goes against what

[A]

they're supposed to be all about. Yeah.

[B]

That's what.

[A]

That's the very least you can say. But before we actually really. Like, we looked into it for about 20 minutes before we did this. I want to do a little more.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. Homework on just who has control over what we were looking at and everything. Because it could be something where. Sorry, blue balls, everyone. But it could. It could be something where it actually is just a coincidental, unknown mistake. So we don't want to run with things like that.

[B]

Yeah, I'd rather blue balls.

[A]

Yeah, I'd rather blue balls. But to be continued on that, but you saw the, the video of Alex Jones. There was a statement that Trump put out this week. You don't need to put it up deep. I have it right here. Where Trump talked on True Social, specifically calling out all different types of personalities, but all from the classically, from the Trump wing, you know, of, of the party who have helped him in the past and campaigned for him in the past where he seemed to completely break ties with them. Many of you have seen this, but for those who haven't, I'm gonna read it. Donald Trump said this. I believe this was on Thursday. Yeah. He said, I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years. That's completely false. But okay. Especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for a rant for Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, to have a nuclear weapon because they had. It's because they have one thing in common, low IQs. Regardless of what you think of those four people, and I have varying opinions on all four, I can assure you with the utmost confidence, not one of them has a low IQ and not

[B]

one of them wants Iran to have nukes. I feel like that's a pretty fair.

[A]

I feel like that's a pretty fair statement too. He said, they're stupid people. They know it, their families know it, and everyone else knows it, too. Look at their past, look at their record. They don't have what it takes and they never did. They've all been thrown off television, lost their shows, and aren't even invited on TV because no one cares about them. They're nut jobs, troublemakers, and will say anything unnecessary for some free and cheap publicity. Let's also debunk that one. They all have fucking 10 times the audience they ever did on TV because no one watches it except people, people born before 19 fucking 64. There's no one left there, Donald. You think people are watching Mark Levin on Saturday. Mark Levin can't fucking handle Tucker Carlson's sperm sample, let alone his View sample. I mean, it's just fucking crazy that he, like, who is whispering in his ear.

[B]

But also think about why they, they get kicked off of mainstream television platforms. It's because of, you know, free speech, things of that. And he's always the one championing them, saying like, oh, yeah, fuck that. Don't bend the knee to that bullshit.

[A]

So it's great. Just. He goes on to call them nutjobs, troublemakers who will say anything for some free and cheap publicity. Now they think they got some clicks because they have third rate podcasts, but no one's talking about them and their views are the opposite of MAGA or I wouldn't have had the prep one presidential election in a landslide. By the way, these are the people who won you the presidential election and you're leaving off a few on the list. But independent media, not tv. Not tv, not the fucking propaganda on TV that's being propagandized to just old people in the population. That is not what won you. The people who watched that were decided to vote for you fucking 40 years ago. All right, there, there was no like, oh well, I guess I'll go vote for him. Those are, those are the people that have been told will do either what Fox News or CNN says depending on which side of the aisle they on, and are gonna do what the independent media are, where there are variables and where you actually move people. And it's where the people are. They just gave CNN a hundred percent approval rating of Trump, not hand flailing fools like Tucker Carlson who couldn't even finish college. He was a broken man when he got fired from Fox and he's never been the same. Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist. Or Megyn Kelly who nastily asked me the now famous only Rosie o' Donnell question where crazy Candace Owens, who accuses the highly respected first lady of France of being a man when she is not and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit. Actually to m. Ooh, Candace might actually be able to use that in her lawsuit. President biasing a jury. He might have just given her a gift there. Actually, to me, the first lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace. In fact, it's not even close.

[B]

Okay, listen, I'll be the first guy to say I can't fucking stand Candace Owens, but man, I listen, I ain't

[A]

a fan of Candace either. That's been on the record. I got to stay out of it. Asinine statement, but yeah, I don't want to get in trouble here. We're bankrupt. Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things. That is. That is true. And lost his entire fortune as he should have for his. For his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax. These so called pundits are losers and they always will be. Now fake news, cnn, the failing new York Times and all the other radical left news organizations are hailing them and giving them positive press for the first time in their lives. They're not maga, they're losers. Just try to latch on to met that, try to latch on to MAGA as President. I could get them on my side anytime I want to. But when they call, I don't return their calls. Cause I'm busy on world and country affairs. And after a few times they go nasty, just like Marjorie Trader Brown. But I no longer care about that stuff. That's why he's taking the time to tweet about this, by the way. I only care about doing right for our country. MAGA is about winning and strength and not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons. MAG is about making America great again. And these people have had no idea what to do. But I do. Because the President United States is now the hottest country anywhere because the United States is now the hottest country anywhere in the world. President Donald J. Trump. Donald Trump has an approval rating right now almost as low as Joe Biden. He has completely botched this entire Iran war which we should have never gotten into. He has listened to the experts like Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham and Ben Shapiro, who all were original, never Trumpers. And he has now completely cast aside all the people who, regardless of what you think about them, have been the people that have actually had his back since the beginning and helped get him elected and helped get all his ideas through because he sold them something that he has now given them the opposite of. Listen, I'm going to talk about it in a little bit. We watched the last administration gaslight people on the pandemic, gaslight people on censorship, gaslight people in Afghanistan, have disastrous pullouts of places like Afghanistan, get us into endless wars in Ukraine, spend all taxpayer money in Ukraine while Maui people were fucking drowning. Had a guy who was completely not in charge and out to lunch in Joe Biden not controlling the country at all, despite the fact that he was elected. It was sinister, it was wrong. And it was called out four years, as it should have been by many people in independent media. You have to call balls and strikes for very different reasons. I am seeing sinister patterns everywhere from this guy in this administration. We all know Donald Trump's always said bullshit and he's a fighter and he punches people publicly. I don't get as worked up about that stuff. But to see him so specifically dig in on this particular issue where there are American lives at stake, by the way. I mean, I, I shouldn't have to say that. But we're talking about war. And it's. And it's actually as bad as that is. Like it's the 10th order effects of this are insane. And. And it was all a mistake. And we're going to talk about some of the evidence that came out there this week about why this never should have fucking happened. But like, like to watch him try to gaslight people to the extent that he has now consistently done it, specifically over the past seven, eight weeks, but I would argue since mid-2025, beginning with the Epstein stuff is terrible. And people who supported Trump, and I get why people did. I totally get it. People who supported him, supported him based on what they told him. And they had seen him in office once. Obviously Covid was a whole fucking thing. But before that it was very chaotic, but the lights were on, the sun came up. Foreign policy wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. You know, the economy was doing okay. Like, he wasn't the guy that in 2015, they're like, you can't give this guy the nuclear football. They were. People were kind of like, all right, he's blustery. They got sick of him at the end. Enough people did because of COVID and all that shit and some of his style. But once they saw how a lot of Americans saw how bad Biden was and how much. How sinister that administration was, they were like, you know what? He didn't blow things up the first time around. Now he's saying some nice things on the campaign trail. Some of it he might not be lying about. He proved in the past there were certain things he wasn't lying about when he got into office. So we'll give him a try. And he's giving the appearance now and in straight up action, showing that he lied about many things that he put on the fucking campaign trail, not the least of which is this war. So to see him gaslight people and tell them that this is what MAGA is and I'm the cult leader of it, and you have to listen to me. It's like people thought they were getting Jon Snow and they got mad King Eris Targaryen,

[B]

I just want to say, could have told you it wasn't going

[A]

to be John Snow back in November. I could have too. I'm just. I'm talking about the people that pulled the ballot for him right there. So funny, you know, and that was the thing. We could all feel the vibes, especially by 2024, of where that stuff was headed. And then you know, they came after him, they tried to imprison this man. And I'll still tell you, the charges that the Justice Department tried to bring against Donald Trump were total. You know, they convicted him of a felony, which was he almost got taken out, which it's weird that we haven't had an investigation about that. That's a side issue. But at the time almost got taken out, you know, and you did see over many years the left wing gaslight about certain things of Donald Trump. It was always in the back of my mind though, that and while Trump would definitely, and he has done this, I will give him this, would definitely correct, say the online censorship issues that we saw in particular with the last administration and the border issues at least make it better. Right? Those things were a net positive to me. And those are two promises that and if I'm going to be ripping them here about all the lies he's doing, those are two things that as of right now are remarkably better. The border still needs work, but like the bar was low. It's remarkably better than it was. We can certainly argue about the ice stuff here in America and how some of that's handled, but on the actual border, everything I'm hearing from the guys who know what's going on there, like it's better. The censorship is a billion times better. I mean it's like night and day. And it really was like right when he got elected, not even when he got into office, if I remember correctly. Like you could almost see the shift on Instagram and these and YouTube and these places right after he got elected. And those things are net good. This episode is brought to you by Ferrero. Soccer's biggest stage is approaching and Ferrero is making it easy to go all in. Pick any two Ferrero brands from Kinder Bueno to Ferrero Rocher, and you could win the one million dollar grand prize plus an exciting range of daily and weekly prizes. Don't miss your shot. Official rules apply. Learn more at goallin and win.com Spring Fest is heating up at Lowes and for a limited time we have the extra big deals you need to impress guests. Get your outdoor special space ready and save $50 on a select cobalt 24 volt blower kit. Now $79. Plus save $80 on a char broil performance four burner grill now $199. It's springtime and our best lineup is here at Lowe's, valid through 413 while supplies last selection varies by location. But if they come at the cost of all these Other things that to the 10th order effects are gonna kill us for years to come. You ask yourself, like, well, I guess it's like, you know, a shotgun or poison, like it's. But essentially your options are bad. It's just crazy that you can run tape of Kamala Harris, who couldn't put a sentence together saying, you get Trump, you get war with Iran, which you might've gotten it with her, by the way too. Let's not exonerate that. But you hear that? And it was like, well, that's fear mongering. Nope, she got that right. I said that last week. I'll say that again. So when I see stuff like this, like a statement like that again, try not to read too much into Trump just being crazy with statements, which he always has. It feels like he has completely just lost the pulse of society. That was the one thing he always had going for him. He knew where the pulse was. He knew where the attention was. He knew where the puck was going, how to get in front of people, where people were, meet them where they are with the media, and using all the tools at his disposal to be able to put his face in front of people and get a message out that he thought the majority of people would agree with. And now he is doing it to such an opposite effect that on his own echo chamber platform. True social. I don't know if you saw the commentary of commenters on. No, on that post. They're shredding him.

[B]

I don't have it.

[A]

They're shredding him. People have been posting that all over Twitter. He is getting shredded by his own people and losing massive, massive support. So it was also obviously another wild week as it pertains to the Iran war, which is what's at the center of all this. And actually, real quick, before we do that, I gotta run to the bathroom. Deep. But we're gonna talk about this and kind of timeline of what happened here and what this could mean for this next week coming up, because this is really a day to day thing. We'll be right back. All right, we're back deep. You just saw a tweet come through, by the way, just before we get to this. That was a little weird. Yeah.

[B]

And it was in the Daily Mail and it was. I know why Melania did that yesterday. I've seen the evidence. A quote from Mr. Alan Dershowitz.

[A]

Why is he at the middle of everything? Yeah. Why is he injected into every story?

[B]

He was just getting at that. Like, yeah, I've looked at this. There's no direct link that's pointing to Melania.

[A]

But like why, like why is this

[B]

all happening just so out of the blue? So weird.

[A]

Yeah. If you're a guy like him who might know something or he might be totally bullshitting because he makes himself the center of the whole story. Just don't say anything. Just don't say anything. Don't. Unless you're going to provide actual details because you're just going to piss people off or.

[B]

He got the call.

[A]

I mean he don't have to get a call, bro. He is the call.

[B]

They're like, listen, Daily Mail, throw it in.

[A]

He is the call. He's the one.

[B]

He is the phone.

[A]

That's right. That's right. But before I get into the timeline here, I do feel I, I hate, absolutely hate having to pre qualify things because it's really. And for most of you out there, you're going to agree with me on this. It's like below our general intelligence level. I shouldn't have to say things just to make sure you know the but after that is qualified to be able to be discussed. But Iran, bad regime. For me to say this fucking 40 times. I'm sorry, I'm just going to say this again. It's been reported they killed up to 45,000 of their people in the build up to this war. I don't even know if that's true. For the sake of argument. Let's call it true. They're bad. They always have been. They've been around since 1979 deep. And I went and pulled the stats on this. They are known to be responsible, either directly or through financial intermediaries for in the ballpark of a thousand United states deaths since 1979, all of which should be condemned and all of which continue to prove that they are an enemy to the United States interest. That is all a thousand percent true. I have already had to make the argument to you guys that Joe Kent has pretty eloquently put out there about the decision making of whether or not to invade a place or cause a war that has a lot of effects that are beyond what your current losses giving, keeping the situation at status quo would be. Which we have done, including sacrificing 13 more American lives that we know of. Yeah. To the effort. And shutting down the whole global economy. Or I shouldn't say shutting down, damaging the entire global economy with the Strait of Hormuz and the oil problems going on there that didn't exist before all this, that still continues to be a huge, huge problem. In the wake of this ceasefire that happened this week. So I'm not making any arguments for the rgc. And it actually, if I'm going to talk about these issues, it annoys the fuck out of me when people put words in my mouth or take words out of my mouth and say that if I go criticize Netanyahu in Israel, therefore I must think Iran's good. Fuck Iran, okay? Not the people, the government. Hope they're all gone. Not crying for any of these guys that are dead. I don't think it's smart to kill the negotiators that you're trying to tamp down a war with. I'm not going to support that. That's fair. That's very fair.

[B]

That's pretty fair.

[A]

But like the Ayatollah taking one to the head, not gonna shed a tear for that. Okay. These are bad people. But this week the New York Times gave an extensive report about the build up to the war. I put that link in there. D fire is that. And what led Trump to do this? It continues to be impossible to divorce the strangeness of the coercive control that Benjamin Netanyahu and the current Israeli government seem to hold over our president. And yes, that bothers me. You know what the difference, and we looked this up too. The difference between Iran and Israel are Iran's an enemy that we have economically sanctioned in the kingdom come. There's no tax dollars going there. They're an enemy. It's just like they're walled off from us. Israel, we send all our money, we allow their people to pay our politicians to curry favor in the region legally. It's our fault that we let them do that, by the way, through organizations that aren't registered under fara, like aipac. So when I see Israel responsible for, what was it, 1500 deaths in Lebanon since March 2nd. Let's get that right.

[B]

1500 plus.

[A]

1500 plus. Let me, let me even divide that in half and say 750 of them. And I don't know this, I'm just doing this willy nilly. Or Hezbollah. Okay. And let's say, let's just all agree, like, all right, not crying for those guys. That means that in the last month and a half, just in one country, our ally that we are paying billions of dollars to, who is using that billions of dollars for defense weaponry. The defense, that's a strong term there for offense weaponry that they're using to kill civilians in Lebanon. They have killed almost as many people in Lebanon in the last month and a Half as the Iranians have killed Americans in the last 47 years. And we're paying the guys who are doing this. And by the way, they're killing a lot of Christians, too. I have warned forever about the hardliners in the Israeli government and to take them at their word when they open their mouth. So when you see the finance minister, many times, Smotrich, discuss Greater Israel and how the Bible has promised his country that they should own effectively. It's like land that is equal to all of Jordan, most of Lebanon, a lot of Syria, a bunch of Iraq, some of Saudi Arabia, good luck with that. And some of Egypt, when you see them then move the borders up to the Latani river in Lebanon with an offensive attack, where they are sending all their soldiers, as I laid out last week, to fight rather than go fight in Iran while they're asking our guys to put our people on the ground. They're coming back to the New York Times report in a second. When you see them do that, and then when you see Smotrich come out and he admitted it on video, it's in Hebrew. We don't have to play it. You can find it online. Say they're taking the land. This is what they're doing. They're ethnically cleansing the land. They're blowing up all the houses for the people not to return, and they are moving their borders farther. And then the Defense Minister Katz comes out and says the same fucking thing. When you see this again, I tell you, I use this all the time. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, fucks like a duck. It's a duck. And so I asked you again, I'm not going after the Israeli people, going after the government here that we pay. When you see our president allowing all this stuff to happen, I'm going to get to the ceasefire problems in a second, which Iran also broke some of that ceasefire. We're going to be fair here. But, like, when you see him allowing this to happen, you have to ask yourself, why is that? Especially an egomaniac like him who wants to see. He wants, behind the scenes, you know, he wants this thing to end. This has been a huge mistake, but they won't let it happen. And they keep going after all all these people and they're turning everyone against them around the world. We'll get to a poll later. I think so much here, but you know about the opinions that the Israeli government is now causing people to have on their country as a whole, around the world. Hint, they're not good. You Know, even in America, where they've had that curried a lot of favor for a long time, when I see those things, I'm going to call it out. And if that pisses some people off, that's not my problem. To quote Ben Shapiro, I'll quote him on this. Dead serious with a straight face. Facts don't care about your feelings. It's just funny that the guy who said that is a bit hypocritical when it comes to the meaning of that phrase. Doesn't mean what he said isn't true. It is true, you know, and what happened this week was Donald Trump, as we all know, put out a true social, giving Iran a deadline of 8pm on Tuesday, 8pm Eastern, I guess, on Tuesday night to come to the table and if not, their civilization would be gone, never to return. Something like that. And basically in wording, again, Trump's a big bluster guy, but like in a court of law, you're, you're threatening like a genocide of, of, of a civilization again. This war started as a liberation of the Iranian people and 40 days later was, now you're all going to be dead. Yeah, okay. There's just no other way to put that. And then he blinked. And I'm glad he did, by the way. Very, very glad he did. I don't, I don't want to be, I don't want to get that twisted. He blinked and they came to some sort of agreement in the hours leading up to that on Tuesday evening to have a ceasefire. Now, I said I would talk about where this was broken on both ends. There were rockets and I went back and forth with someone on Twitter about this and did a lot of work on this too. And so I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt here to Israel on this one. But there were rockets that were fired into Israel after the cease fire was agreed to. Now, when you look at the different sources and they are very murky, I might add, some of those rockets may have already been going or scheduled to go before the actual announcement was made. And it might have just been, you know, some sort of really dumb coincidental up. But again, you are dealing with a tyrannical regime, no doubt about that, in Iran. So I don't want to give them the benefit of the doubt on that. And there were rockets that rained into Israel and there were some casualties. I didn't hear about deaths on that. But there were, there were double digit casualties on that. They did do that. They also fired missiles into some of the Gulf states which I didn't see any footage of that, but that's been reported in a million places. So they were doing that right around when the deal was going through. And then there were no more rockets going to Israel. But the next day, Israel commenced Operation Eternal Darkness. Their words, not mine. On Lebanon, who was a part of the ceasefire deal, which was another report that came out. It was agreed that they were a part of the deal. And then after the ceasefire, Trump got on the phone with Netanyahu, and Netanyahu convinced them it wasn't a part of the deal. Why are you still listening to this guy? He is making our country look awful. And that starts at the. He being Netanyahu. That starts at the top. I don't. This is so one plus one equals two, you know, it is so one plus one equals two. And yet Donald Trump continues to let it happen. And so we saw all the footage out of Lebanon. It wasn't AI people. We saw the footage this week of Operation Eternal Darkness. I'm not even talking about when they were bombing all the homes that they had ethnically cleansed people from. I'm talking about when they bombed residential buildings in Bay fucking Root. And I texted boomers in my life who are asleep at the fucking wheel drunk on a 25 BC BAC. I texted them and I'm like, are you okay with this? I know they're not showing you this on Fox News. I'm showing it to you. Are you okay with this? Do you think that, that our tax dollars should help this? And they have no answer for me. They have not. And then when you turn on Fox News, by the way, I remember during the pandemic, the insane propaganda going on on cnn, they had the death counters on the side. They were arms of the, of the fucking government to gaslight the entire population into bullshit. Ms. Now, formerly MSNBC, same thing. We are now seeing SHU on the other foot with Fox News, which actually, there's a video up there deep of Megyn Kelly, who worked at Fox News in the past, talking about this. Kudos to Megyn Kelly. She called this out. It's, it's under, it's underneath Trump's statement right there. I want to play this real quick because she gives a play by play of exactly how Fox News is dealing with this war is insufferable right now. Insufferable. I was there for 14 years. I've already told my audience, if I were a Fox News anchor right now, I'd know exactly what to do. Cheerlead, cheer, lead. That's it, it's all about rah, rah, rah, go military. That's what's patriotic. Praise the president, support the troops, support

[C]

the war day in, day out.

[A]

That's, I mean, this morning, who do they put on? Mike Pompeo to kick off the day's coverage, Lindsey Graham all over Fox News over the weekend that it's utterly unhelpful to go like today. Obviously, I've come out and said how I honestly feel because I owe that to my audience. But today we're going to have both sides on to help people actually make up their own minds. You will not find that over on Fox News. They've got one mission and that's to support these military groups, the military itself and President Trump. It, it's just folly. It's folly, sirup. And it's, it's a fool's errand. Yeah. And when I, I don't mean to call out an entire generation here, it's not entirely fair. But for the sake of time to generalize for a second, hypocritically, when you talk with a boomer, you're just like, oh, my God, I don't know if you people should be able to vote because you know, you're on your way out, all due respect. And when you talk to me about this war, you demonstrate that you don't know. And again, I'm generalizing here. It's not all of you, but the ones I talk to, they don't know the first fucking thing because this is and by the way, not their fault in a way, because this is where they are. They're still on tv. Those are the people watching Mark Levin on the weekend. And they have an entirely different reality than we do on the Internet where there's actual access to information. And so I find it very, very telling that Joe Kent, who's been mentioned now on four different episodes, came out of the government, made all these claims and has continued to very publicly push them. I find it very telling that many of his predictions that he's making on a day by day basis come true by the next day. And they're all the same theme, if I could sum it up in one phrase. He talks about restraining the Israelis because they will do things to fuck up peace. And they keep proving him right every single day. Now, I said I would come back to this New York Times piece. Can we pull that up deep? So New York Times put out this whole thing about what the official final like, all right, let's do it kind of meeting was like with the war. And if we just scroll down to the first part, right here. Deep. This is all I need to read. The black SUV carrying Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu arrived at the White house just before 11am on February 11. The Israeli leader, who had been pressing for months for the United States to agree to a major assault on Iran, was whisked inside with little ceremony, out of the view of reporters primed for one of the most high stakes moments in his long career. U.S. and Israeli officials gathered first in the Cabinet Room adjacent to the oval office. Then Mr. Netanyahu headed downstairs for the main event, a highly classified presentation on Iran for President Trump and his team in the White House Situation Room room, which was rarely used for in person meetings with foreign leaders. Mr. Trump sat down, but not in his usual position at the head of the room's mahogany conference table. I remind you, this is one of the most overly alpha males of all time. Instead, the President took a seat on one side, facing the large screens mounted along the wall. Mr. Netanyahu sat on the other side, directly opposite the President. Appearing on the screen behind the Prime Minister was David Marnea, the director of Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence agency, as well as Israeli military officials arrayed visibly behind Mr. Netanyahu. They created the image of a world of a wartime leader surrounded by his team. Donald Trump took a foreign leader into the most sacred foreign policy room arguably that we know of in existence in the United States, the Situation Room, and sat down across from him as his equal, and then put him, put that man's intelligence team on the screen to tell him about why he needed to attack Iran. And I remind you, Joe Kent said six million fucking times, the Israelis come to us and they give us intelligence to get us to do what they want us to do in the region, strictly for the purposes of us coming over there to do the fucking work. And they did it again. They sold him a bill of goods and said, it's gonna work out. You know, you're gonna be, you'll take out the Ayatollah, the regime will fall. Oh, the best part. Remember they said they're gonna like arm the Kurds and all these rebel groups. We're gonna give them guns and they're gonna overthrow the government. Yeah, they, they didn't do that. We gave a bunch of guns. It's like Operation Fast and Furious just happened in Iran and no one's even talking about this. And they gave a bunch of fucking people guns that didn't end up doing anything with the guns that we wanted them to do with the guns and the irgc, like not the Ayatollah himself and the sun. Now who's like the new Ayatollah who's not even allegedly in the country. That's I don't know. But like there's rumored he's in Russia like the IRG season charge and they are entrenched and they have had people in the country rally around the flag who don't even like the regime because there's fucking bombs dropping everywhere. And then you got a shit bag like Reza Pahlavi asking on public tv. I just saw him on like French TV asking Israel in the United States to keep bombing Iran. Do you love your people or don't you, bro? It's killing civilians. Yes, they're getting some of the military targets, there's no doubt about that. But they're killing a ton of civilians too, and it's not working. Anthony Scaramucci, who hates Donald Trump 10 day. Scaramucci from the first administration hates him. You gotta take it with a grain of salt. He did put out a tweet this week where he put a timeline of every day of the war and what Trump said by quote of the war. And I did not go through, I'm not gonna put it up because I did not go through every single quote, but I went through some of them and he was objectively correct where he was quoting literal things that Trump said either on suit, on true social or publicly at a press conference or two reporters about what, what was happening in the war. And, and basically it was a series of declaring victories, threatening Iran, declaring victories, saying the straits needs to open. Oh, now the straits open. Oh, the straits closed. We're going to kill them. Declaring victory. Just changing the narrative every day because it was going south. And this New York Times report, which we're not going to read the whole thing, but you guys can go read it online, lays out how this has just gone completely disastrously. Like, think about this. We are sitting here quoting confidently places like the New York Times reporting on Donald J. Trump. This is something that if this were six years ago, I'd have trouble even looking at the article because it would just most likely be some sort. Even if he were wrong about something, it'd be propaganda and there'd be bullshit in there, Lies, cuz they just didn't like them. But this is so sourced from across the administration. And more importantly, when you read this and then look at the results of the war day by day, you're like, yeah, okay, one plus two is three. Yep. Seven plus four, that's. Yeah, that's 11. Wow. Five, eight. That's 40. Yeah. No, yeah, Math checked out like, that's where we're at. It got so bad that Benny Johnson weighed in. Benny Johnson, you know, Benny Johnson is a open supporter of Donald Trump, so he's not a journalist. And I don't, I don't think he describes himself as that. If he does, correct me in the comments, but, you know, he's a mouthpiece for Trump, all right? That's what he likes, no problem. But, like, I don't take anything he says seriously. He's just going to cheerlead whatever Donald Trump does. Benny Johnson credit where it's due, man. Came out and said this in response to the New York Times report. This episode is brought to you by Fandango. People say fans are too distracted these days, but the truth is when a great movie hits the screen, you should show up. You stay glued, invested part of the story. And without fans like you, there'd be no cinema magic, no shared moments. So head to fandango.com to get tickets, stream or rent or buy top movies and series. Fandango loves fans. On behalf of other nations. Certainly don't want some other nation to walk into our White House and to lie about an operation to our president. And that's what happened. That's what Israel did here. It's unforgivable as far as I'm concerned. You should never want that. China doing that, Russia doing that, or if it were the UAE or Saudi Arabia walking in and lying to us, lying to our president and then getting Americans killed, I would also be rightly furious. So it shouldn't happen. Anyway. I think that Bibi Netanyahu should be banned from the White House as far as I'm concerned, along with any other world leader right there. Like, good for him. This is, this is something that is mainstreaming and independent thing, if that's what you want to say. Across every side of the aisle, people are turning. Most people are not saying, like, hey, you know, I think Iran's good. They're not saying that, but they're looking at our ally and going, that don't seem like it's ally. And very well. And it's now literally reached the mouthpieces for the organization. And by the way, the timeline is always so simple. Okay, Netanyahu's corruption trials, which, you know, those are the least of his crimes, but he's guilty as fuck of all of all the corruption and bribery. Like, if you've watched the BB Files documentary by Alex Gibney. It's all on tape, his own depositions. He is guilty, period. Going to prison at some point, or should go to prison at some point, even though our President goes over to fucking Israel and says, you should pardon the guy, which is crazy. Every time Benjamin Netanyahu's trial is going to be going into court, somehow a war breaks out. So the Israelis were about the ceasefire deal. I didn't mention this earlier, but all the report, they were even calling him Donald Duck. Some of the officials on publicly, on Twitter, they were complaining on TV about it and they were pissed that they were left out of some of this agreement. And then they were pissed that the United States got caught writing some of the official statements from the Pakistani Prime Minister's office, who was like, helping negotiate this whole thing. I don't know if you saw that the prime Pakistani Prime Minister or whatever is going to write this. You guys can. That's a separate.

[B]

They gave him anthropic to write for.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, basically. But like now what does he do to break the ceasefire? He goes hardcore on the war in Lebanon. He gives it a new mission name, Operation Eternal Darkness. Not dark at all, you know. And he has now, right before we got on air today, according to Reuters, requested that his trial that was now set to resume because the war had been paused, was set to resume on Sunday, be delayed. The timeline is always Netanyahu trial on, war starts, war dies down. Trial back on, Netanyahu starts war, repeat. He does it every fucking time. And we allow it to happen. Now, there was a poll that came out this week. And when I really look at a poll to really, actually cite it, you know, sometimes polls, even on my show, they get thrown around and sometimes they shouldn't, and sometimes that's a mistake. But like, I really, especially if I see someone, something from like Pew or some like, serious polling outlet, I like to look at the analytics of how they conducted the poll. And there was a poll that came out this week. We see the chart up on the screen right now that shows the opinions that are either very or somewhat unfavorable of Israel in the United States. And I'm going to boil this down for you as such. Overall, 41% of Republicans find Israel to be very or somewhat unfavorable. 80% of Democrats do. And overall the number is 60% people ages 18 to 49. 57% of Republicans find Israel somewhat or very unfavorable. 84% of Democrats find the same things for an overall of 70% people 50 and over. The boomers watching Fox News are still down at 24%. Somewhat unfavorable or very unfavorable. Whereas the Democrats on the other side who watch MSNBC and CNN are actually up at 76 for an overall of 49% above 50. Now there's another link there deep of the poll design. You can find this through through Pew where how they did the poll and it's a full PDF document essentially this poll was conducted through online panels where they promised people 20Amazon gift cards and everything where they broke it down across a total finished responding population of around 3,500 people. Now deep, if you scroll to the bottom page, very bottom right there, it shows A or up 1. Sorry. Yes, it shows a breakdown of who all these people were. And I don't want to get too in the nitty gritty here to confuse you guys, but I would highly recommend reading this document. You can type in, go to Google, type in Pew polls. When you get on their official site search Israel, you'll see the latest article that says Israel opinion in the U.S. click it, scroll to the bottom and it'll say it'll have three hyperlinks and one of the links is like how this poll gets done. You click that and you will get to this 7 page deep PDF. Of the 3507 respondents, they made sure that 410 of them were Jewish and 123 of them were Muslim. So and this isn't even fair to do at all, but it's combining generations and everything. But if you were like okay, right away, all Muslims are going to hate Israel and all Jews are going to love Israel, which is not fair to say. But if you're going to do that right away, you got a 4 to 1 ratio basically in favor of Israel, and yet the poll was this bad. Furthermore, you also see 1195 Protestants, 411 of which were white evangelical Protestants who in many cases are very, very pro Israel, also included in this poll. Okay, so what I'm pointing out is you are seeing parts of the poll where the people there are like the last people on the boulevard of broken heroes hanging on to represent some of the number that is not grading them unfavorably. That is how far they have fallen in the United States. And if I could speak to my Israeli friends out there, that is directly the results of the current government in charge and the hard line genocidal policies that they have boldly, illegally enacted. And it bothers me even that bothers me alone right there. But it bothers me even more that we fucking pay for it. And every politician, including our president, has to be like our great ally Israel. They're not being a great ally. I would just love it if one fucking, if Trump could come out and be like, like, what did he say last June? He's like, they have no idea what the fuck they're doing. Oh my God, that gave me life for like five minutes. I'm like, oh, oh, maybe, maybe he'll start being like this. No, didn't do it. Total opposite. So it, it's just, it's getting ridiculous and it's got to get called out now. I want to close the show today, talking to you guys about what we're doing here with this extra kind of show that we've been doing on the weekend. I have always maintained this, and I still maintain this to this day. In the past, I've done solo episodes. 13 of the first 15 episodes were solos. When I was doing it in my parents house and I didn't think anyone would even come through. And I recorded a lot ahead of me, launching the show on September 15, 2020 with 10 episodes. And then people wanted to come in and it was nice enough that friends of mine would do that. Eventually someone like Joey Deef even drove down, yes, there two and a half hours from Wayne to do it times episode 103 and 132. But I went away from solo episodes. And then episode 75 when I got Covid and was under the weather, to say the least, I had to do a solo because I didn't have an episode that week. I did that on the Rittenhouse case when that got closed. And then I did one more at episode 120 where I kind of had like a, a gap week right there in 20 in fall 20, September 2022, before the Boziak episode. And that was on the Nord Stream pipeline, if you remember that. And then I didn't do it for a long time in summer 2024. I did some lives, some of which are still public. And, you know, people really liked it. I didn't like it as much though, because it's just my dumb ass talking to people. I much prefer going back and forth with someone in the studio and being able to exchange ideas and also getting people from around the world who actually know shit that then adds to my knowledge and lets you guys decide for yourselves out there. We did the one episode, I think episode 316, where we summed up the whole Tommy G. Waterboarding thing. But again, that was like you and me knows our page talking and that's what I'm getting to now. The reason this has been much more fun for me to have this format is because I got the fear now. It's not just me alone in a studio. I got my boy in here. Like, we can kind of riff back and forth. He's funny as, and it creates a nice dynamic and we can go through things. That said, I do view these as two separate buckets here. When I'm talking with guests from across the spectrum, which I always do. I have had on, by the way, after just all the criticism you heard me do of Israel. I have had rabid Zionists on this podcast, people that Israel can do no wrong. Go look at episode 161. You know, go look at episode 307. Okay, go look at other episodes where that's not just the only thing we're talking about, but it's people who are strongly in support of Israel. I like having people from across the spectrum. It is much easier for me to be able to be the guy that is just there to facilitate, add in some thoughts here and there, but ask a lot of questions and get people opening up and then allow all of you, whether it be in the comments sections or just to yourself, to decide what's going on. The reality is when we do this format like this, it is now me and there are opinions sometimes too. I do my very best to base those opinions on evidence and sometimes I do fall short on that and I have no problem getting called out for that when that does happen. But I am still going to continue the exact same mentality that I have had when I sit in that seat with someone else sitting in this seat since day one, which is that I am going to look at it from a journalistic capacity. The reason I am bringing this up overall though, is because naturally, even within journalism, you're going to get to certain situations where lines are just straight up cross and the evidence is what it is. And if people then take that as, oh, you're taking aside on something, that's what they're going to do and I have no control over that. What has given me a lot of reassurance over the past two weeks in particularly is that I have gotten texts from some of the hardest core left wing people in my life and some of the hardest core right wing people in my life. I mean, people that would never ever for any circumstances vote in the other direction where they have accused me of being the opposite so the left wing people have called me a MAGA Trump apologist. That's usually the phrase that's used. And then the right wing people have called me a lefty nut job. That is some good reassurance for me. That means I'm doing my job. That means I'm over the target if you are. It's very similar to when I had Royal Hakakian and Ian Carroll back and forth, hardcore Zionist, hard, hardcore anti Zionist back and forth. And in those two weeks I was called a rabid Zionist or an anti Semite. That means by the people who are on the extremes, that means you are doing your job. And so I have no problem with you guys keeping me honest on that as we move forward. And I would like you to. This is a new territory for me and I do view this as kind of like a separate show within the show. We're doing this right now. We're putting out a lot on weekends and then we put out our two to three, you know, three hour sit downs, a piece on, on the, during the week on the channel with guests across all different topics. I mean, I have so many different topics coming up for you. Obviously we've been covering Epstein and Iran heavily over the past two months because they're crazy stories going on in the world and we'll do that. But we've also been recording a lot of podcasts that have nothing to do with that. And I love that we've been putting out some of those and now we're going to be putting out a lot more of those too, while also having guests come up that, you know, sometimes could schedule where it's like, yeah, they are covering this issue and we'll get those ones out right away when we do that because it's current events. But I'm doing my best here. I appreciate everyone who is offering their opinions on it. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. I read some of them. There are way too many DMS for me to go through. I'm, I'm not telling you not to send them. I, I really, really appreciate it but like, I can't keep my head straight. You know, it's just, it, it's a lot and I'm, and I'm really humbled by that too. But I used to, I used to answer every dm, bro. It's not possible at this point. I don't even look at Twitter. Like, just please hit me on, on Instagram. That's your best shot. You know, maybe I'll get like, I don't even know how many out of 100. But I try over there. But you know, I, I've always been someone that wants to answer all those things and I, I'm recognizing that that's not, not really any longer possible. That said, I do really, really appreciate the support we're getting and we'll take this week by week and where it goes and we're going to cover and react to the biggest stories in here. It'll be a bit of the news part of the podcast and then the purity of the actual guest podcast, which is the heart and soul and will remain the heart and soul of this show forever, is going to be same business as usual. And so the people who have found me through this medium right here talking with you, I hope you go look through the library of the other type of content as well, because it's a very different vibe and I think for the better. It's just important that, you know, if we can do something and I have a skill to be able to do it and we're having fun doing it, which with beef now I am having fun doing this. I didn't have as much fun in the past at all doing this type of content. You know, then, then we'll do it and so we'll continue to do it for now, but that's where we're at. I'll have more thoughts on this moving forward. Thank you guys for all the support. If you haven't subscribed, please subscribe. Tell your friends about the podcast. It's the best help we can get and you can follow me on my socials links in description below. That said, give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace. What's up guys? Thanks so much for watching the video. If you have not subscribed, please hit that subscribe button before you leave. As well as leaving a like on the video. It's a huge, huge help. You can join my Patreon via the link in the description and you can also join my clipping community via the Discord Discord linked down below. See you for the next episode. The right window treatments change everything. 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