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#433 - “They F**king Knew!” - Bassem Youssef on Joining MOSSAD, Netanyahu Plan & his Parents’ Death
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So is Dershowitz still suing you or what?
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Oh, he's a piece of. He's, he's, he's just like. I, I think he's too busy getting a massage from a 50 years old Russian woman named Olga, I think.
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Oh, you even know the woman?
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Oh, of course. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean he talks about it. I mean, he, he's, he's the one who said it. When they said like, hey, you've been like in the presence with younger women on Epstein Island. It's like, no, I only went there once. I was with my wife and I had a massage. My underwear is on. And she was a 50 years old Russian woman named Olga. And you know, if you know anything about Epstein, you know that you will never have 50 years old women hanging around.
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I don't think he liked them.
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Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, maybe, maybe he meant, I don't know, Maybe he meant 417 years old woman or something, or 512 years old woman, whatever the math is. And I don't know, maybe just added up in his head and just like came up with 50.
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Well, if I could get like a, a drum roll of just like your facial reactions every time he's talking and just play that on.
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Yeah, that'd be pretty entertaining. No, actually the, the, the craziest thing that he said when we were discussing on the Piers Morgan interview and I was telling, and we were talking about, is Epstein an Israeli or a Russian agent? Which in itself is a very stupid question. And then he said, well, I knew him. I was his lawyer. If he would have told me that he was a Mossad agent, I would have got him off. And I was like, I was sitting there, it's like, yeah. So I was like, wow. I mean, so where do I apply? I mean, do they have health benefits? I mean, I would join the Mossad for health benefits. I will do it for health insurance. Well, I would do it. I would do it. I mean, do we have residuals? Do we have bonuses on each sabotage or like espionage? We do it's just like, it seems to be like a very good paying job. Not just because you're going to be like an undercover agent, is because even if you like being found out, you're just going to get off the hook, which is like, hey, guys, like Moose said, this is like my, this is like my, my, my out to like get out of jail card. It's like, what the hell, man?
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Just call the White House 1-800-number.
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Why? I can call that. Like, I know we need, we need to call the people in power. We need to call Tel Aviv so, so we can.
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Right?
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That's seems to be a little too
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much of that, you know.
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Too much of what?
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Too much of the Tel Aviv United States connection. I think we got to cool it
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with that a little. What do you mean cool it?
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Just like cooler heads prevail. We'll worry about things here in the US they worry about things there.
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You know what I mean? I mean, are you saying like, should we cool it or they should they cool it? Oh, both, because like, as like, I mean, because it seems that they're not going to cool it up. So all we have is just to talk about it. But if whatever I say hurts anybody's feeling in, in Washington or Jerusalem, I apologize, of course, because I'm, I fear for my life.
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Listen, I, in all seriousness though, I, I've watched you, especially since the beginning of the war when you did those first really famous appearances on Piers Morgan. And I knew you'd get a ton of hate from, from people that don't like you because you speak out on things. But I've always found you to be like, in addition to obviously being funny, because that is your trade. Like, you really come with a lot of evidence on things and you're brave about speaking about some things that maybe some people, especially at the beginning of the war, did not want to hear or con conversations that didn't need to be had. So, you know, now that it's like almost we're coming up on three years in October of like, you really being in the spotlight with this, you know, what's it feel like to be one of the go to voices in the world that people look to for an opinion on probably the most controversial matter that exists?
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Well, that sentence in itself is, is ridiculous because, you know, when you, the fact is I, I also look at myself as a comedian and when people tell me like, you are the go to voices, it's like, no, that's, it's. I don't think it's Fair, because there are other people who are much more educated than me and much more, you know, much more equipped to talk about this stuff. At the end of the day, I'm a satirist, I'm a comedian. But it just tells you another a different kind of truth, which is the state of the world that we're living in. People would listen if it's entertaining. People would listen if you tickle their funny bone a little bit.
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Thank you. Which, you know, it's human nature, but the fact that there's a lot of horrible stuff around the world in order to make people care, it's just to. It's all about attention, economy. You're competing for your attention like anything else. While things like genocide, like killing civilian people should not compete for attention, for these things. It should happen naturally. So it's a kind of a bittersweet. I appreciate the very nice words, but I said, no, man, this is not how it should be. And that's why it's like, I'm too humbled by this. I'm in a position that I didn't ask for and I shouldn't be in. There are people who should be leading the conversation. However, it is not entertaining.
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Well, listen, you're very humble about it, but I do think that there is something to your life story and the fact that you understand this. I believe you're married to your wife.
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My wife is half Palestinian. Yes.
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Right. So it's personal at home as well. And as far as I know, you've had to live in the United States for the last decade plus because of issues in Egypt, your home country.
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Yeah, yeah. For 20 years of my life, I was in Middle east, the medical field. I was. I went to medicine, then I specialized in heart surgery and. And then. Yeah, I know, man. Wow. Yeah, I. I can't even believe it. I don't know how. Seriously. I mean, like, all of those patients are killed anyways. It's fine. In medicine, it's called collateral damage. It's fine. And no, I. Yeah, I. I've been 20 years in that field. And then 2011, the Egyptian revolution happened and I found myself, like, doing these videos. It went viral. And then that took me into like a completely different career path to be a host of a political satire show. And of course, you know, that show ran into trouble with all kind of regimes and governments. Like, I think I went through three governments in three years. And I wasn't liked by any. And you know, there were different. I mean, under one government, I was inter. There was a warrant for my arrest. There was. I was interrogated, which was very funny because they were interrogating me about my jokes. And then the other government. Oh yeah, seriously, it was like a six hours. And he was like, what did you mean by this joke? It's like. And as a comedian trying to explain your joke to a junior prosecutor, it's, it's. It. That. That was a tough room. And. Yeah, man. And I was that lcc. No, no, that was under the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Okay.
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And. And yeah. And you know, like to like, you know, do well, but also you don't want to kill it too much or you're gonna get killed anyway, so I. After, after. And then the following. When the military came and you know, it's kind of like every. Each. Each side, each government kind of accused me of working for the other government. And then at a certain point, my, My show was canceled a couple of times and I had to leave. And. And I, And I came here to the United States to start like a whole new life, which. Which is in itself was quite humbling because one day you. You had the most watched TV show in history in the Arab world, and the other day you're here and nobody, nobody cares, nobody will give you a political satire show. Like, nobody's waiting for someone from Egypt to tell them, hey, this is how you make one of your government. And so I went into a very dark phase of my life for three, four years until I said, like, you know, I need to do something here. I can't just like, you know, reminisce on the past because you know what? The past is done. I can't. Just looking, looking back.
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So did you think about going back to medicine?
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No.
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No.
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This is how much I hated it. So, so, so I. I had the choice to go back because I was licensed. I had like USMLE exams. I passed all my exams and I could have renewed my license and go into the system again. And I chose to go on open mics and comedy clubs and start teaching myself stand up comedy in English. Yeah. So. So for. And the first two, three years, I sucked. Sucked big time. Huge. And it was humbling because I am like, I was there. I was that 45 years old guy, like sitting there waiting for my role in open mics with like, you know, 20 years old and 21 years old, you know, and I go up and I. And I. And I bomb huge, like big time. And there would be. I always tell this, I say this, this story. There were people who would know me from Egypt, like Arabs who would have been watching me. Arabs and Egyptians, they would come to the show, oh, Basimus is here in America. And the disappointment that I saw in their ey eyes as I bomb one joke after the other. And then like I can see their eyes telling me, ah best. Yeah, six months from now he'll be driving an Uber. And yeah, and so it. And I saw that and I remember like I was leaving a comedy club like after, like one of my very bad shows and then like a very nice Egyptian, a woman came to me sick. Why do you do this to yourself? I remember one of them tried to give me $20 or something. And then so, so that, that so. And then I improved a little bit and then came Covid and I. Everybody sat at home and there was like very few scattered comedy clubs still working half capacity all around the country, especially in red states where they didn't have anything. So I told my agents, put me in all of this. And this is, this is where actually I worked my muscles for like a year, two years and a half. I went into the shittiest room in the, in the country. I did like the worst rooms and I, I had the worst nights and then. But that kind of build my, my stand up comedy muscles and, and I, I became much better. So came out. Coming out of COVID I was like on a different level. So I started like, you know, selling out smaller theaters, smaller clubs and bigger clubs and bigger theaters and started to go on a European. So I, I was already doing that. And then when the Piers Morgan interview came. 2023. Yeah, that kind of like, you know, pushed me higher and, and, and I'm grateful that it happened at, at the time because if, if that push came when I was not ready.
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Right, right.
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People would come. It's like, oh, I mean, he's much funnier on tv. But now people come to the shows like, oh, you're much funnier and you stand up. So, so, you know, everything comes in its own time. And I'm very grateful and again, very humbled by this experience. And it just like reminds me all, all the time that, you know, you ain't shit. Yeah, 100%, man.
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I mean, that's an odyssey. To go from being a heart surgeon for 20 years and then I'll come back to the Arab Spring too, because I feel like that gets so ignored. And you were in the middle of that, but like, you know, then go through all that, become this amazing entertainer, but then you have to get stripped away from your home country, come to a place that is brand new and like, basically retrain a comedy musc in another language. Yeah, it's pretty insane that you pulled that off.
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Yeah, I can't. Yeah. I'm looking back, I said, like, I. What? I, I think I was in a trance. I, I think if I was aware of what was happening, I think I would have just like, pulled myself. But, but also, how often do I tell you? Yeah, yeah, it's. Sometimes you go in and then you look back like, what the hell did I do? Yes. Because that would not be an advice that I would give to someone in my position. And. Yeah, and, and I, and I think it's, as I said, it's just like humbling. It's a constant reminder that, you know, don't, don't be too cocky. Don't be too arrogant. Don't be too happy what you have. Because I lost that before in Egypt. So, like, I went to the top and then it was taken away. So it's just like, it keeps you grounded.
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Absolutely.
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Keeps you, keeps you pretty, pretty grounded. Yeah.
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What clicked when it really started to turn where you started getting good with the stand up here?
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What do you mean? What click?
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Like, was it just kind of a matter of like, you getting used to kind of the, the flow of like the English language with comedy or, you know, did you change up, like, what kind of material you were doing?
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Big time is not, it is not a moment in time. It's very incremental. Because comedy is a third language. Because even, even, even if I started stand up comedy, my, my English was decent. Like, I, I can converse, I can have a normal conversation. But when you go into comedy, it's not just writing the punchline, it's the delivery, the cadence, the rhythm, the pauses. It's, it's a whole, it's, it's a whole genre of music in itself. Because you can say you can. Like, for example, I had jokes, the same jokes that I would tell it when, at the time when I was sucked, I was sucked really hard. And then I would say it like three, four years later, it's the same joke. Like on paper, it's the same exact joke. But the delivery, the cadence, the rhythm where you pause, where you look, your body language, all of that kind of builds on it. It's like you build on that. So I wouldn't say it is like something that have clicked. It is more of like a series of clicking of oh, I can say this differently. I can say it this way. I can take a couple of second pauses before I throw the punchline. So it's a word of its own and it is not just the English language. You could be fluent but you, but the delivery would suck 100%. Yeah. So it's all about practice. You can say the word 10,000 times and it's like 10,001. It clicks.
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Yeah, well when I, when I started, when I, when I started the show, my first special was called the Middle Beast and it is basically my origin story. Like how I started. I talk about being medicine and then I started and then I came to America as Trump is Becoming president.
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Interesting.
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So that. That, that shift was interesting. That was the. The story engine of my first show, my second show that I'm touring with now. It's called the. The Belly of the Beast, Which. Which really tells you it. It comes from the name really. It's like, what does it mean to be an immigrant from a certain part of the world that finally finds himself living inside the empire? So. In the belly of the beast.
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Yes.
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So that kind of like, oh, I live here, but that country that I live here now that I love is doing damage where I left. And so. And I am part of that machine now. You're part of it. I'm part of it because my taxes go to oil up that machine. So it is the. It is. And that's something that a lot of immigrants feel right now. It's like, because we. We all came to America for a reason. It's a great country. It's a great living. It. The. The American dream could be very rewarding if it worked out. I. I love it here. I don't want to actually live anywhere. I'm happy, like, living in Southern California where the weather is human and, and, you know, it's. It's. It's a. It's. It's a great place to. I, I love, like, raising my. My kids here. I have two cats, so, I mean, I'm sad, baby. So. But, you know, at the end of the day. But also, as much as we love the. The. The. The life and the comfort and the convenience, we are not happy with how our money being used to feed the beasts and the beast is feeding on our countries and our part of the world. And so it's. And I know that a lot of Americans also share that sentiment that, like, we don't want our money going to all of these wars. Now for us, it's even more personal because it is happening at where we left. So this is the theme of. So I draw my inspiration for comedy not just observation, but how I feel. At the time, the middle beast was like, I was in this period where, oh, I came here and then I all go away through. Until I become an American citizen. And I said to here, it's like, now I'm realizing that I am a part of this empire and I'm. I'm struggling. And there's a whole kind of like moral conflicts with that, which also. I mean, it sounds dark, but it's very funny.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, you gotta.
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You gotta find the black humor in life.
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Yeah, that's.
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That's kind of the job.
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But what do you mean black humor? Are you racist? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean black? What do you mean black? Yeah, just. Just call it, like, you know, unwhite.
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Okay. Unwhite humor.
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Yeah.
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How's that?
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You know, how is that woken up? It's the homeless now. They're the unhoused.
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They're unhoused. So crazy. Yeah, you really pick.
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It's like, I'm gonna kill. I'm gonna unalive myself. What. What. What happened? What happened to this? To the fucking language of this country?
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Yeah, I don't know. We're still working on it. We're trying to rebuild it. Yeah, you can help with that. You picked a very interesting time to come here because you've live, like, era of where it went, like, really woke, and now people are like, going, Nick Fuentes. You know, it's just.
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Yeah, but. But also there is, you know, dependent was like, you know, moving on the other side. Like, I mean, it's the first time here for me in. In New York after Mamdani. And I have to say, Sharia law is working quite well for you guys. I mean, I have to say. I mean, guys, it took you some time, but. But now you know that they know Allah is the one and only God. And you guys could. Should all go back and. And. And just like, you know, and. And join Islam, you know, Repeat after me, Ashadu.
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Wait, no, I know that. I know I have Beck lover in here.
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Oh, this is how. All you know about my culture. Culture appropriation. Oh, my God.
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Yeah.
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You just need to just accept Allah and Muhammad as his prophet and you'll be fine.
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Okay. Yeah. I never bought the. When they were trying to make Mom Donnie, like, what was it? They're like, he's the new Islamist mayor. I'm like, I don't. I feel like. I feel like him and his wife aren't exactly practicing Sharia. You know, I mean, the.
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The fact that you say practicing Sharia in itself.
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Yeah. I mean, that's a loaded.
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He practices Sharia. I do Sharia three times a week. Like, I do split Sharias. Like, what. That's just like. This is. This is how words are vilified. Yes. Sharia Islam Muslim. I used to do these sounds God. But, you know, I'm sitting with like, my. My white boys and we're having an education together.
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Double D's.
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The double D's. Yeah. Yeah. They call me like, what's your name again? Yeah, it's like The Double D's going out together. Yeah, baby. They're going out. Yeah. You're picking up women and men. Yes. New York. Love is love.
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He's been filling a lot of potholes over there, by the way. What? They feel like 70,000 potholes.
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You see, this is the power of Allah. Repent.
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Really frustrated, though. I mean, it seems like you do. Kind of an obvious question here, but, like, really frustrated at how everything, when we look at cultures, just gets completely standardized as one thing.
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Yeah. It's easier. It's easier just to. To put people in. In a box, because I don't have time for nuances. Yeah. I don't have time to. To understand the details. And what. When you say Sharia, what does it mean? Or say Muslim? What does it mean? What say Sunni or Shia, what does it mean? And it goes for all kinds. It's just. It's easier just to paint. To put, like, a. Like a stroke, like, white. Like, just, like, to paint them with all with the same brush and. Because now it is easier to hate them as a whole or vilify them as a whole. It's much easier. But if you start to tweak nuances like that. No, people are different.
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Right.
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Yeah. We don't have the capacity, like, a lot of people don't. Like, normal human beings don't have the capacity to do that. And people who do the propaganda are aware of that, so they know exactly how to it.
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I agree. When you. When you made this initial shift, though, I guess back in 2011, when the Arab Spring was popping off and Egypt was like, ground zero of that, what was going on?
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Yeah, ground one. Because ground zero is Tunisia. Yeah. That. It started in Tunisia. It did, yeah. Yeah.
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I didn't even know that.
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Yeah. What happened there 20, I think, was it a month or two, a few weeks before there was. It sparked. It happened from Tunisia. A vendor, a street vendor burned himself because you couldn't, you know, find food or like, to feed his family. And that sparked, like, a whole, you know, revolution there. And they ousted their president, who was there for about 30 years, something like that. And that kind of made, like, other countries look. It's like, oh, so actually it started from Tunis, but, like, Egypt, because of its size and its population, it kind of like, kind of. We stole their thunder.
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Well, that's what got everyone's attention. I forgot about that.
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Yeah, maybe.
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I knew that.
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Sorry. Tunisia.
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Ground zero for Tunisia.
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Sorry.
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But what. I mean, what was. What were the biggest issues with Mubarak? Like, you've been in there a while.
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Well, you see, the issue is with all kind of developing countries where there is people asking for more freedom of expression, freedom of speech. And it all really comes down with economics at a certain point. And of course, like me saying that now people are looking at 20 levels, like, oh, we were much better at the time, but everybody is screwed by inflation and the world economy. But, but at the time, it's really like a sequence. There is a certain government or a certain leader that stays too long, and then there are all kinds of special interest and strong lobbies, and then they take the biggest part of the cake and then there's little left to the rest of the people. And then they use oppression in order to not speak about that. So it's a kind of like it snowballs into something. And that's basically the anatomy of every revol. Revolution or every uprising. And it is interesting that we, we talk about that because I've been here in 12 years and there is a different. And there is. And, and I see the corruption, but it is, it is much more dolled up.
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Dolled up?
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What do you mean doll Dolled up? It's like there's so much makeup on it. Like here the production has the, the. Here the, the corruption is like, is high value. There's like you have graphics and people in suits and.
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Is that a compliment?
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It's a, it's, it's, it's a, it's. Yeah, it's a backhanded compliment. It's basically saying that, that like there is oppression, there is corruption, there is oppression of freedom of speech. But people in. But, but the governments in the west hide it well. You know, you, you think you have freedom of expression, but you don't.
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We don't.
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No, you don't. You think you have. But I mean, we, of course we, we speak up. I mean, I'm sure you cannot compare the margin of freedom in the United States with the margin of freedom. But what I'm saying in relation to what America is marketing itself as, that, you know, so. Because if you have a country like right in front of your eyes where you have very strong lobbies, whether these lobbies belong to foreign governments or these lobbies belong to big corporations, and they openly write in. In your face. Buy Congress seats.
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Yes.
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And buy politicians and blackmail them.
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Yes.
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And we know for sure that, that a considerable number of that government is compromised in morally unacceptable crimes. I don't want to say any names Epstein files. But if we are sitting there, we're discussing if the like the possibility, or actually the absolute possibility of the President of the United States being a fucking pedophile. We are discussing how the Congress is not releasing the Epstein files. We're discussing how every single important seat is bought right in front of your eyes because someone dared to speak about the foreign government. And then people speak about that and nothing happens. Your freedom of expression is performative.
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I see what you're saying now because technically, like you and I can sit here and then broadcast this out to the world and, you know, not have an issue with things we're talking about.
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I mean, it happened. If it happened back in the Middle East. Oh, you'll have an issue. You'll be yanked over the hair and. And then nothing. And then, and then they continue with the corruption here. Nobody will touch you, but they will continue with the correction. But at least we talked about it. Yes, at least we discussed it.
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Yeah, I hope that's good.
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At least we felt good. They just like initiating. But will anything change?
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No, I do agree with you on that point as far as like you equating the actual levers of power that we vote in the place with what free speech is.
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The only difference is that here, like you have enough resources to keep people busy and urgently.
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B
Yes.
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You have enough that goes around for people and that enough is, is actually getting little. Because you see now, like, you know, there is a lot of wealth, shift of wealth, but for years the bread and circus worked very well.
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B
Yes.
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The Netflix and the UFCs and NBA that were. That's a good distraction, you think?
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It still doesn't work pretty well though.
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It's still for the masses. There are people waking up, but you know, at the end and maybe they're increasing number, but the masses are still into the bread. And I mean, look at the average American life. Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck or if he's in middle class, he has much more responsibility. So they're working their ass off now. They have a little bit of time. What do they do? Bread and circus. The Netflix, the movies, the UFCs, the NBAs, the baseball games. Because you need to recover from that like very tedious, like daily life to. To win bread. Right. And then after that there's a little bit of time for you to follow the news and whatever makes it to the top of the news is what will stay with you.
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Yes.
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I mean, yeah, it's not like you are hiding anything. The media is not hiding anything. I mean, back in the censorship. Yeah, you will never hear about that corruption here. It does not hide it, but it buries it down in the 120th line in the article. It puts it in the tail of the news. And by the time that average American person is already exhausted, he's just like, you know, he want to sleep, you want to like, you know, go on those like Tinder dates, whatever, it comes back. So, you know, know, here you just have in for, for now. Western countries have enough to keep people distracted without oppressing them. The difference between the third world countries and Western countries is the Same Difference Between 1984 by George Orwell and Brave New World by Huxley. Whoa. Oh, right. Like, yes, like oppression by pleasure. Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, like oppression through pleasure. Yeah, you know, through choices, many choices, multiple choices. It all leads to the same choice. It doesn't matter. But I gave you the illusion of choice back there. Nothing. You cannot speak Big Brother. Everybody is watching here. Everybody is watching you, but through your phone that you have accepted all the terms and conditions to track you 100%.
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I I think, and I do think if there was ever going to be a moment where enough people could wake up that, you know, not the whole system change, as much as I'd like to see that, but you see some sort of movement in the right direction, now would be the time. Because it has been so in our face in a way that is even beyond the in our face it's been for decades. It's been so in our face over the past six months with what they've done with Epstein and then starting a whole war and then we got miss Scientists and then this. You know what I mean? It's just like Follow the Magic Dragon.
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So, so, so you think people wake up and this is where things change
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B
not the way you want it and not the way I want it.
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A
It will never happen. I'll tell you why.
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B
Never.
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I because so far the bread and circus and the distraction has been working. Yes, now it's starting not to work. There's still people going through cracks and I don't know if you have noticed in the past three years, but with with the same level of awakeness as it rises, there's a lot of oppression that rises too with it.
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B
What do you mean?
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You have seen the all of these, the sit downs in the universities, the American University, Columbia University. Have you thought in your life that you would see American students being hit, brutally dragged and having their career ended because they would protest in colleges? Would you ever see what you're saying? Have you ever seen people losing Their immigration status because they had a political right.
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B
That's crazy.
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Have. Have you. So you see what's happening there?
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B
Yes.
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So as more people wake up, the machine will be more brutal. So there is a lot of brutality coming. It's not like enough people will wake up and then they will be able to change the system. There are more and more people waking up. The more and more you will hear. Now you hear it openly talking about, you know, we need to revisit the First Amendment. We need to. We need to. You know, not everything should be said, right? No, not everything. It's like. And these are used to be absolutes. So what happens is, like. Because it's not like the people who wake up and Kumbaya will do it. You are up against a very, very strong establishment. And they have every. They have the money, they have the power, they have the surveillance. They have your information. They can hurt you. You, if they want you. We haven't seen that yet. Because their number of people waking up is still not posing like a threat. But once it becomes a threat, you will see the level of oppression rising up.
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B
But it's also. Here's the other thing of the people out there waking up. How many people are going to go out in the streets and be George Washington?
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No. Yeah.
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B
You know what I mean?
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Yeah. Because what are you going to do? You're going to revolt? You're going to use the Second Amendment to stand against, like a militarized government?
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It's like a wild thought.
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A
Yeah. I mean. Right. Okay. Think of ice.
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B
Think of ice.
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Ice. Ice is a paid militia. Ice is a paid militia. You are paid 40 or $50,000 bonus signing. And you are used by the government in order to impose laws outside the parameter of the laws to get people off the street. And I'm not saying that everything. But what I'm saying that there is a lot of transgression that they have done that's outside the law that we haven't seen before. I mean, that you trained, but you are seeing it. These are paid mercenaries. I mean, really, if you strip down what ICE is, anybody can join for money. These are money for hire. So hire, like accounts for hire so
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B
you can join in like 24 hours or something.
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A
Yeah, exactly. This, this. These are paid mercenaries.
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B
Yeah, you need a job.
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And. Yeah, like, and, and the. And it's just like most of these paid mercenaries are from immigrant backgrounds, which is crazy. Yeah. It's like, Jose, go get Jo. I can say that because I'm brown. Yeah, yeah. I had. I I. I have a Brown privilege. Just one privilege you cannot get.
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Okay, but can you give me the Brown privilege pass for the day? No, you can't do that.
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A
I mean, I, I'll. I'll ask my brothers. Okay, I'll ask my brothers in ice.
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B
No, I do think that the more you let them get away with doing things so blatantly, like the fact that they passed the law that said you have to release the Epstein files, and that was what, Deef, like, 135 days ago or something, and they're just not gonna do it.
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But you see, when you say, it's like, you have not to let them. You don't have a choice. What are the tools that you have in your hand to force the President of the United States to release? Nothing. Right. I mean, have you even seen. Seen not just Trump, but the other American, like, members of the American administrations? Like, you know, they, they, like, whether it's hectic or micro, it's like, guys, when are you going to do this? Like, well, I don't know. Like, they're very rude to the. Yes, okay. Like, bravo. You have. You have. You have reporters asking the tough questions for the President, which we will never have in the third world, but basically, they're insulting them as like, yeah, hey, like, shut up, piggy. What are you gonna do about it? What are you gonna do about. About it? What if they. If they impose martial laws tomorrow, what are you going to do about it? Because you. Because you are. Because people in the west have been living in this illusion for a long time that. That the government cannot do that. That to us.
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B
They can do it under the guise of something.
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Yeah. The guise of Congress, which is already paid and bribed and blackmailed.
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B
Less than that, though.
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Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
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But even less than that. Think about, like, I'll never forget this. About. About maybe three weeks into the pandemic, my dad came back from the grocery store that was like, when you had to, like, not even look at people and everything. And he just said he was like, people just adapted.
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Yeah.
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He's like, everyone is used to this. Everyone is operating on the same wavelength. And he's like, the whole world just stopped and people just adapted. And I was like, what are you saying? He's like, it's just crazy that people adapted that fast. Like something could bring us under control like that. That fast.
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Fast. Yeah. And. And also not just adaption for, like, daily life. There is stuff like, for example, you know, the tariffs. The tariffs for. For. Nor. We paid billions of dollars in tariffs, which later was proved was like, you know, judged by the Supreme Court that it's, it's unconstitutional and that the government of the. Of. And Trump government should pay back. Are you going to see that money? No. Who's they going to buy paid back to? This is, this is an infringement of your freedom on your pocket. They took money from your pocket and the guy. And, and, and the court said they couldn't do it, they should return it and you'll not see a penny back.
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B
Yeah, right.
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A
The, the, the, the, the. Something like the merger, like Larry Ellison buying half of your media.
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B
Crazy.
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A
All right, that's. And, and, and, and he would let him because he's a big donor to him.
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B
Yes.
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So your source for information has been bought in front of your eyes as a monopoly by a single person who is the bigger donor of the IDF for the arm of a foreign country. And all of us are like, wait, wait a minute. You cannot do that. Like we just did. We just did. So you see, the infringement of your freedom doesn't really have to go all the way from someone knocking on your door and dragging you and putting you in prison. Reason. There are levels before that. Yes. And you're just like at the beginning. And this is why you need people like me, because I need to guide you for what's to come. Because I know exactly what.
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B
How about help us stop it.
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A
No, no, I can't. I can, I can only. I can only tell you guys, you are so. This is, this is. I am just a messenger. This is why you need immigrants like me. Not for the, the, For. Not for the cheap jobs, but as guys guidance.
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B
Okay, yes, you can be like our shrink.
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A
I could be like, you know, your trauma advisor. It's like, listen, that coming period is going to hurt big time. I wish you can get. I wish I tell you it gets better, but it doesn't.
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B
All right, well, how about you put us there? How about you put us there? How come 2011 Egypt, shit starts blowing up, you're a doctor, suddenly everyone's in the streets.
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Yes.
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B
How'd you get so involved with this besides walking outside?
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Well, I was, I was. No, I was. I was in my hospital. Shift. Shift. And I was in the. I worked in Cairo University Hospital, which is the biggest hospital in there. And the Cairo University Hospital is five to ten minutes from Tahrir Square. So we were in the hospital. We were actually operating in the hospital. And we were following like between the operations. We were following what's happening on the news and when we saw the attack, when we saw people getting injured, it just happened. Just all of the doctors just like, I mean, of course we manage the shifts and who take care, but none of we work. And then there's many of the doctors that actually left with supplies, medical supplies. And we started to set in makeshift clinics and to kind of treat people who were injured. And we did it with. There was no leadership, there was nothing. We just went there and it happened like doctors would come in and relieve the shifts and a whole system, a medical, the whole medical system happened in that. And this is how you got involved, like on the ground at the time, you know, there was no political calculations or political mindset of we were just going there to help the people. And then after, you know, the revolution, you know, subsided and Mubarak left power, this was like a new chapter. And, and six weeks after the revolution, I started. You know, I was a huge fan of the Daily show and watching John Stewart, so I always like, imagined to have this kind of show in Egypt, but I said like, this will never happen. But then when the revolution happens, like, oh, that's the opportunity. So I started to do the like, online videos, five minute videos, and out of nowhere it just went viral. And in a few weeks I got my first TV deal show and it just. And I found myself into television and this was like a huge shift.
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B
You've been a really political guy before this.
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A
No, no. There again, I. It's story of my life. I am never the more political, I'm never the most. I'm not in the most political, I'm never the most knowledgeable. I just happen to come from a point of view of a regular, everyday person.
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B
Yes.
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A
So when I, when I did these shows in Egypt, I didn't do it because I knew more politics. I just did it because I was coming from, from a satirical point of view of someone who's watching the news and saying, this is ridiculous. When I went on Piers Morgan and talked about Gaza, it went far. Not because I was politically sound, not I was politically knowledgeable. It's just because I was sitting there looking at the propaganda and I was making fun of it, which is like how people connect. It's like, oh, he's saying the stuff that we want to say, but he's just like in a different way. So the humor comes really from your point of view as a normal person looking at things from the average person point of view, not from a politically savvy expert. And I think this kind of humor resonates with People more because, oh, it's our level of humor.
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They see themselves in you 100%. I think for so long, whether it be institutions or the people that were in them, people just saw, saw their trust broken too many times. And I'm talking, you go back 20, 30 years with this and we've just seen it a lot over the last 10 or 15. But you know where people can be like, that guy sounds just like me. And he's asking the questions that I'm asking too. It becomes he speaks for me. And that's clearly what happened because you catch lightning in a bottle here and suddenly become a superstar over there.
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But that's what you call the double edged swords. Yeah, that was a double edged sword because.
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B
Because of what happened to you.
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No, because people put their faith too much.
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B
Yes.
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In the satirists. Yes. Because not because we're better, because we're the only one doing our job Right. Because as you said, their trust is broken in the media, their trust is broken politicians. And then they find me making fun of those politicians and those media figures. It's like, oh, he knows better. He can solve the problem. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can. And then at a certain point, for whatever reasons, mostly human reasons, I will not be able to go on. Maybe I'll get scared, maybe I'll not be able to speak up. Maybe there are certain pressure on me. Maybe I have to just, you know, just play along for a little bit as a kind of self preservation. And this is where you see people turn against you. It's like, oh, we put your, our feet up to do. Like I'm not a leader, I'm a guy with jokes. But because you are doing. People lose their trust in the people who cannot do their job. And they put their trust like who's doing my job? But at the end, my job job is not to fix things. My job is to laugh at the things that doesn't work right. You know, so the, the, the, the mind just shifts here between, oh, he's just someone who relieved that anger. Oh, he's someone who can solve the problem, which I can't.
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That's an important distinction too because I think instantly. You know, I always talk about the universal law of physics where it's like for every action there's an equal but opposite reaction to create equilibrium. It's nicer when the equilibrium is created from here rather than from here.
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Yeah.
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And I think when people righteously get really mad at people who lie to their face, you know, they'll Hear something that speaks to them, and then they'll assume that every single thing that that person says must be perfect and must be right, and you're gonna end up potentially creating the same thing from the other side. Yeah. That you sought to tear down it. You're very aware of that.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
Like that.
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It's. It's. It's. It's very easy to lose sight when you have many people adore you or support you. And you need to understand, like, at the end of the day, I told you, you ain't. You ain't shit.
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B
100%. Yeah, 100%. Your wife helped keep you in line with that.
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A
What?
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B
Your wife helped keep you in line with that.
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A
Oh, my wife always keep me in line. I mean, bless her soul. She went through a lot, seriously. And. And she did that while raising our kids, and she went through a lot, like, the. The shifts that we had to go through. Different countries and different cities, different homes. She was the rock of the house.
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B
What was it like suddenly having, you know, the sequential governments coming after you? 1984 style, like you said, and telling you, you're too funny. Too many people like you. You got to shut the fuck up or else.
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A
Well, well, it. I use that as a material for the beginning, which. With some of my successful. Most successful. But you can't laugh too hard. And again, you found yourself in a position where people are giving you way too much importance that you deserve, whether the people who support you and want you to do more and go further, or the people who don't like you and want to shut you. You down. And I find myself like, guys, this is. This is ridiculous. You know, like, you find yourself in a position where you're. You can't really go further because, you know, you're limited. And then at the same time, it's like, why. Why. Why is that even a threat? And when that happened, like, I. I saw my. My. Like, I. I saw. I went through the interrogation, the cancellation, the. The, you know, being canceled. You know, know, Fish, like, when I say cancel, it's like, nothing. He's canceled on Twitter. No, no, it's just like, cancel, canceled. And then you. You had to leave the country and start all over again in. In. In a completely different universe. And it. It. As I said, it was very humbling. And. And it's. It's a. It was a very, very tough part of my life.
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B
Now, when you were doing that during the Arab Spring era, were you also commenting on. On, you know, I imagine, like, the role of the United States in the region and the role of Israel in the region back then as well.
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A
2011, when I did the show, it was mostly about internal politics because this is what the people cared about. Imagine like, you know, you know, John Stewart sometimes or the daily show talks. 90% of the. What they do is local about the local, you know, the local problems. Every now and then they would talk about stuff abroad because America has is there because it's a superpower, it's the empire, it's everywhere. So most probably every, like most of the problems that happens there is because the American military or America Corporation are interfering somehow. But in Egypt it was pretty much local and regional. So I wouldn't say that American Israel at the time was on top of the, of the, of the topics that people wanted to hear about.
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B
Well, your wife being half Palestinian, was her family still there there in the country at the time?
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A
Half of. Yeah, well, my wife like was raised in Egypt all her life. She never seen Palestine. She was born in Saudi and she was raised in Egypt. Her father comes from Gaza and but her family, her father's side family lived in Gaza. And after October 7 till now, I think half of the family are gone and the other half managed to leave to Egypt.
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B
So crazy having to leave the place you're from because dudes.
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A
Well, it's been happening, what's been happening since the beginning of 20th century. It's like, you know, it didn't happen with October 7th. It happened in 1967, in 1956 and 1948 and before that in 1936. And so it's been going on forever.
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B
But just what was in 1936?
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A
This is called the Arab Revolution, 1936, where at the time Palestine was at the, you know. Yeah, the Arab. It's called the Arab Revolt. This is where The Palestinians lost 10% of their males in that revolution against the British. And it's funny when you say like, you know, Palestine is a land with no people for people with no land. Remember that when you tell you that. But the British, the British troops, they collected 100,000 troops from all around their colonies to come quell this revolution.
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Hundred.
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100,000 from all around the country, all around the globe. 100. They needed 100,000 soldiers to kill people who did not exist.
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B
And, and these, this is when.
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And this is basically what happened is it was so fierce and I told you the Palestinian population lost 10% of its male population in this war. And this was like a prequel for now. It made it easier for the Zionist gangs to kill More because they were really exhausted in that war against the British. And after 1939, the expansion of the Zionists in Palestine was crazy.
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B
Now you had for a long time the people, people of Palestine who were living under British, I guess, command at the time. But like, they had been there. The people there had been there for a long time. And then there was also a Christian
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community and also a Jewish community.
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B
How, you know, looking back on it, I don't know if it's like waving a magic wand, but, like,
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how would
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you have done it differently? If you were going to be like, all right, we're going to give the Jewish people their own state, would you have just done.
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Well, first of all, if the Jewish people would like to have their own state, please be my guest, but not on my land. You know, the, the Jewish population in Palestine have never exceeded 1 to 2% of the population all through, all through history. All through history. And, and just like, let's go back because I'm, I, I need just to accept to, to address something that really pisses me off. The fact that like, oh, like, the Jews are the, the indigenous people of Palestine because they've been there, first of all, like the, the Jewish empire under Queen, like King David or whatever. It, it lasted 200 and 300 years, 3,000 years ago. And they were not the first one. So they were not the first and they were not the longest. They had 200 years, 6,000 years, like 3,000 years ago, and that's it, 200, 300 years. It's like, like someone would like, lived in Kentucky for 300 years, 3,000 years. And now what comes, I want to take all of Kentucky and all of the East Coast. It doesn't make any sense, right? Because before there was the Canaanites, the Philistines, there were. And, and even the Egyptian empire occupied Palestine for more than 200, 300 years. All Palestine and the Levant was like, like an integral part of the Egyptian empire. The Pharaohs for, for, for, you know, for, for a couple of like, thousand years.
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B
Yes.
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A
So, you know, if, if, if anybody would like, half claim, it should be us. So there were people before the Jews and there were people after the Jews. And what really pisses me off, especially about liberal Zionists that like, oh, we don't believe in God, we're atheists, but God gave us Palestine. Come on, guys. I mean, like, pick Elaine, pick Elaine. You don't believe in God, but you believe that the same God that does not exist gave you the land, which is fucking crazy. Like, you know, Someone like Bill Maher is a piece of shit, by the way. So, you know. Yeah. Anyways. So anyways, slid down there. Yeah. I just had to say that. He's just like an. Anyway, so. And then. And then, like years went by, and then there was like horrible, you know, Holocaust and pogroms for Jewish people in Ukraine and Russia and then in Germany. Right. You know, they were, you know, they were really screwed. They were kicked from one country to the other other. And then in beginning of 20th century, they decided that we need to give those people who went through hell in Europe their own state in Palestine. It doesn't make any sense. And by the way. And even Palestine was not the first and was not the most special because they tried to make in Uganda, in Argentina, in Madagascar.
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B
Wait, one was Argentina.
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A
They tried. No, no, these were like. These were. Were proposed.
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B
Okay.
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A
The one. The one that like kind of gave them the land but they didn't take it was Uganda.
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B
Yeah. All right, so like 1904.
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Yeah, so. So it's like 200 acres or something. So you. I can't remember. What, 4,000? I can't remember. No, no. What. What's 200? Like 4,000 farm. Yeah, yeah, sorry. Four. 4,000 acres. I can't remember the. The number, but I think they gave them a considerable amount of land in Uganda. Yeah. I don't even know what an acre is. It's like this American.
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I still don't know what an acre is, actually. I can't eyeball it. They offered 3.2 million.
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They offered 3.2 million. 2 million. So I was like, by. I was off by 3 million. I was off by 3 million 200.
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Yeah. I was like, they building a farm.
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So. So that. So. So now you have people who claim that they're indigenous while their ancestors lived for just a couple of hundred years, 3,000 years ago. You talking about people who are in the present time were considering other options. Options right. In the same time. So if this is divine, why would God accept other options? What would even be accepted? Okay, so you accept it because your religion told you that I can come and I can kick you out of your house? Because God told me this, because I went through the Holocaust, which I didn't have anything to do with it. And here's the thing about. People don't know about the partition because in 1947, there was the UN partition. Partition. And when they claim, oh, the Palestinian. They didn't accept peace because we offered them partition. And then they went into war with Israel. This is again this is how they changed the history. Because 1947, overnight, the UN granted the Jews who were, who were less than 20% to 30% of the population, who, who were living on less than 20% of the land overnight, they gave them 55% of Palestine and then they gave the Palestinians who were, who were for the, like, you know, in the 80% of the land who had more people. They gave them 40, 45% of the population. It's like, you see, they never accept peace. You came to my house and then you just like, you know, you're angry at me because I didn't accept less than half of what's more mine.
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Yeah.
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And, and then the other lie said like. And then when that happened, the next day, the Arabs went to war. No, the, the, the, the, the, the Zionist gangs. Four years. Four years. And even like after the partition, they were ethnically cleansed and killing people in Palestinian villages D and Tantura. And all of these massacres and all of the stuff, the horrible stuff that they claim the Palestinian did to them in October 7th, they did it to them. Them like, like 50, 60, 70, 80 years ago. And they, and then overnight, overnight when, when the state of Israel was declared overnight, 750,000 three quarter of a million Palestinian overnight were pushed out of their homes.
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The Nakpa.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Three quarters of a million of humans living in their homes moved overnight. Yeah. That is crazy.
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It's crazy.
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So when you tell me if I go back, what would I do to different everything? You guys had problems with Europeans. As a matter of fact, many of the, of the Jews that wanted to seek asylum in the United States and in the UK after World War II, after the Holocaust, they were not granted asylum.
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They weren't.
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They were not. There's even like a very famous story about like the father of Anne Frank being having his asylum rejected by the
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US Oh, I'm unfamiliar with this. Let's pull this, that up. That's crazy.
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But you can talk about like how like they America and UK rejected asylum of many of the Jewish survivors of the Holocaust and they can't. And then it's like, all right, sorry, send them to Palestine.
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Yeah. Were they told to? That's what I'm.
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I know. No, because like you had like now all of these companies like this, like, oh, we have.
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It's like, yeah, Anne Frank's family was denied a chance at U.S. immigration. Wait list bombings and restrictive U.S. immigration policies. Policies toward it. And Frank's family chances. Oh, so when he was trying to, when he was trying to get there before it started.
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Yeah, yeah. And, and, and it continued. And it continued after 45. Many of the people could not come to the States. And, and, and the uk they just sent them to Palestine in New York. Yeah, yeah. So you see that. So, so when you tell me, like again, what would I do differently? It's like everything, this, the whole thing was built on, on, on fake premise, fake claim names, wrong premise, wrong claims. And it's unjust.
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I think about this a lot with the context of like, America too. And I think there's two things here. Number one, the fact that this was the first post World War II Modern World, Old land grab, if you will, to where people around the world could see that this happened. Even if, even if the story got changed. Like, it's there on record. There's video of things, all that. As opposed to, like, in America, we had a bunch of founders come here and I'm happy they did. But like, let's call it what it is. There were other people living here and they don't have that land anymore. But that happened 400 years.
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But when you have these discussions, people say like, oh, if I was living at that time, I would never accept kicking out the indigenous people. I would never accept that this is something that happened in the past and now it's happening in front of us, in front of our phones and nobody's doing anything about it.
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Right.
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Because it is never about what's right or what's wrong. It's about framing. It's about the framing. And the framing here is like, it's the good guys against the bad guys. And this is indoctrinated into us since we are kids watching western movies. Movies. Because we know that what happened in the Red Indians or indigenous people or whatever you want to call them, they had it coming. Like, oh, look, you know, they're running behind this woman and their cowboy and they're like having like. And they're doing like a circle and they're killing us. So now we have created these monsters that, okay, now maybe we took our land back. Maybe they deserve it because they were savages and evil. So it is really about the framing. And can I tell you a little bit of. Since I'm a history nerd, I love
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when you talk history.
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So you know the Nagba happened in 1948. You know what happened in 1448?
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1440. Is that the Spanish.
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The Mexican American Mexican War. America. The American Mexican War. You know, when America.
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In 1848.
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18, yeah, 1848, like 100 years before.
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I thought you said 1448.
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So sorry I said the Alamo. Yeah, no, no, it's, it's 1840. 48, where you know, manifesting destiny, it started by like also like claims by like those people taking our freedom and whatever. And then they, they went in unprovoked and they, they, they basically took half of Mexico and now that's half of the United States. It's, it started for the, in 1840. And if you. Actually I went to ChatGPT and I asked to, to him to have a side by side comparison to the media, media soundbites in the American newspaper in 1448 and all of the excuses that they would go to go in and take the land and between the Israeli propaganda in, in 1948 all along to October 7th, same, same thing. Oh, they're, they are against our freedom. They're killing us. They're savages. Like, this is our land. Like we're going in to save people, we're going to take freedom. And then you basically, America, like, you know, took half of the kingdom of Mexico. You know, the, the, you know, in after 1448, sorry, 1848, they took all of California, all of the west coast, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas.
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So let's play devil's advocate here.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Why don't you advocate for the US to give that land back to Mexico?
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Well, because like I came here when things are already there, but usually this is the, this is the moral conundrum. It's terrible. Yes. I'm sorry, but like it. We were told that this happened in the past, that it will never happen again. And we. And. And we're. We're in this, like, very weird position where, like, everybody you speak about. You speak about the injustice that's happening to Palestinians. Like, oh, we shouldn't speak. You're the one who bombed Nagazaki and Hiroshima. You took the people out. People. But it doesn't mean that because it happened before that we should accept that to continue to happen. Because after the second World War, we were told that never again again. It will not happen again. Now we have international laws. All of these. All of the. The past.
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A bunch of times.
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Yeah. All of the past wars of, like, a stronger country coming in and taking a weaker country that will never. Now we have international laws and international court of justice. We have human rights laws, all of that. We were told that after the second war, it's a whole new world.
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Yeah.
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But then it's not.
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Nobody follows it.
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So. So. So my rebuttal to this is like, fine, okay, let's accept that. Like, we accept it, but stop telling me that this is like a free world and stop telling me that there are rules. And. And just, like, tell me that this is all performative so you can continue to do what you continue to did hundreds of years ago. Now you do it with better pr.
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Yeah.
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Would you.
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Would you undo it if you do it today? Like, if you could be like, all right, Palestine. It's just all Palestine. There's no Israel there.
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I mean, I think it's very difficult, actually to do that. I mean, I. And the thing is, they make it so complicated that there's no way out. And this is. This is a type of. Of manipulative way of discussion. They tell you, all right, so what's the solution? What. What could you do? It's like, dude, you're coming to me at the end of the line and. And asking me for a solution. It's like you, like, making me wake up in the body of a serial killer, like, after, like, 19th, like, victim that I killed. And then, like, the 20th is poking my ass. Okay, what would you do? She poked my eyes. Like, dude, there is like, this is like, you, like me making me land on the Titanic after we hit the iceberg. It's like. Or what do you do? Is like, well, you already. You already got us into this course. You already did not put enough life jackets and life boats, and now you're asking me to clear your mess. So this is one of those dishonest questions. No, no, no. I'm not saying you're wrong because like, I remember I was asked this question before and I, and I, and I at the time, I wasn't aware of the manipulation tactics they tell if you're the prime minister of Israel, what would you do after October 7th? And I would say like, not this. It's like, oh, that's not a good answer. It's like. And the answer is, don't put me in the shoes of someone who did all of that and then asked me to clear their mess. This thing happened, did not happen in vacuum. We have that mess. You already created the mess. You already killed the people. You already ethnically cleansed them. And then you brought millions of people from other countries, put them there, set them there land. And then whatever solution I'll come up. What should I like make those Jews go back? Oh, you're anti Semitic. Should I make it Palestine? Oh, you want to kill all Jews? It just, you know, it puts you in an impossible situation where we can't do anything. It just becomes now like a matter of fact and you have to deal with it.
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Okay, well how do you. Without having to go then to the root and like suddenly solving all the world's problems?
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I really don't have any. Really. It's so, so messed up and so up. That's like, you know, there is no solution other. The only way is to end the occupation. And even when you say end the occupation, that is okay. What kind of land should you give back to the Palestinian? Is it not 1967 land? Is it that partition land? Is it the whole land? You know, you have already created a clusterfuck. You destroyed the land, you destroyed the people. You know, there is like 7 million Palestinians outside of Palestine. What are we going to do with these people? Should they all go back? And when did they go back? What will happen to the Jews? There are you, you see it, it's. You have created an impossible situation where I. Dude. And that you just fucked up. And all we, we hope now. All right, you know what? Okay, you know, at least stop the killing. At least stop taking new lands. But you, because you see what's happening now in Lebanon. They're doing Lebanon the same day in Gaza. They've already ethnically cleared like tens of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people. They have destroyed the villages, the it and they make it impossible to go to ground zero. They go and they inflict so much damage. They kill so many people. They push so many people out and there's like, all right, what are you going to do?
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Well, I Hate how you talked earlier about in our government, how brazen people are like, what are you going to do about it? Yeah, it's even worse when you listen to like Smotrich or Cats talk over there. Like they telegram what they were going to do up to the Latani river. Then they did it and, and then there was even. They were telling the Druze and the Christians in the area, hey, if you
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have any Muslims, just like report them.
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Right? And I'm like, okay, just replace, replace the Muslims with Jews. How's this different from World War II?
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It's not. And the only difference is, is that the media is not having a fit about it because they, because, because the media is really. I, I said it before. The American media is the real Iron Dome of Israel.
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The real Iron Dome of Israel.
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Yeah, they distract. They bury the truth. They don't really address it. If they would address the atrocities that Israel does on daily basis, like whatever terrorist attack that Hezbollah did or Hamas people will be like out in flames. But they don't. Actually, most of my information about what the Israel does is from the Israeli, Israeli media.
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From the Israeli media?
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Yeah. You know the whole thing about the Hannibal Directive and how like they, the Hannibal Directive and the fact that they
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would explain that to people.
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Yeah. Okay, so, so, so in October 7th, a lot of people don't know or maybe forgot that the, the attack of October 7th happened in 6am the first responders, which is like the Israeli helicopters arrived six to eight hours after the attack. Attack. Right. Now just to give you a, like a reference, Israel is the size of New Jersey. You can get in your helicopter getting from the north of Israel to the south of Israel in 15 minutes, 6 hours to 8 hours. And then they had televised testimonies by, by Israeli soldiers, said like we were given orders to stand down. And all of that is discussed freely in the Israeli media. I have not seen a single, a single coverage of that in American media. They're covering for them. They're covering. This is like, this is the ultimate bro code. They are covering from the Israelis more than they are covering from themselves. And then there is like multiple reports again from the Israeli media about the Hannibal Directive, which is basically the Israeli troops that came six to eight hours late started to shoot indiscriminately, killing the hostages and the kidnappers in the same time time, basically making the number of the, of the casualties in the Israeli side even more because they were just like killing them all. Because the Hannibal Directive is basically, it's a directive by which if you have a hostage situation, you will kill both the hostage and then and, and the terrorists so you don't go into negotiation. Basically less paperwork. And, And, and, and, and, and the crazy thing is everything that I told you now, now I got it from reading the Israeli media. Can you imagine the Israeli media is more honest about their brutality more than the American media who's covering up for their bros in Israel. It just like it's, it's crazy man.
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It's pretty crazy.
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Yes.
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Do you think they wanted that to happen?
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Who? Yeah, I mean I definitely want. I, I Because listen, I've said it before. Israel doesn't care care about its own people. All right? They use Jewish people as fooder for whatever deed they want. And I said it before and again I quote the author, Avish Lime, who's a Jewish Iraqi author who wrote three books about his experience being an Iraqi Jew who left to Israel. And he said in his book and it's documented that between 1950 and 1951 the Mossad sent operatives in order to blow up synagogues in Iraq to scare the Jewish people in Iraq so they would leave and go to Israel. So whenever. Oh yeah, it's written that you can you say Israeli Mossad or like Israeli operative involved in bombing Iraq synagogues 1950,
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1951 to scare the Iraqi Jews there.
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Yeah, yeah. So when they tell you oh you know what, 1948 there was also an ethnic killing of views from the Arab. You are the ones who were pushing them, you know. And then, and then the same operative who they sent to. Here it is baby.
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Whether Israeli operatives were involved in a 1950-1951 Baghdad deeply debated. U u U Deeply debated and historically unresolved controversy.
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No, it is resolved and debated.
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You the attacks which targeted Jewish properties and Musada Shem Tov's synagogue catalyzed the mass exodus of Iraqi Jews to Israel. Here we go. So many Iraqi Jews and some historians like Avi Schlaim argue that Zionist operatives orchestrated the bombings or planted false flag bombs to terrorize the Jewish community and expedite their immigration to Israel. The Iraqi government executed two Zionist underground operatives, Yousef Basri and Shalom Salah Sali and arrested others in connection with the attack.
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Now here's the fun part. The same guy that the Musat sent to do these synagogues, then they sent him to Egypt and they, and he led something called the Lavon Affair. You can affair or Operation Susanna. And here's here's the, here's here's the fun Tell people About the Levon affair. So, so basically, when Nasser took power. Yeah, here's the. When Nasser took power, when he became the president, Egypt, and he, the Israel wanted to kind of, you know, cause a rift between him and the British and the Americans. So they started to bomb American and British places. And, and one of them was found out. Now, here's the fun part. Israel aggressively, aggressively, like, rejected the claim that they, they did it. Right. They rejected it from 19, 1954 to 2005. And in 2005, they finally acknowledged the Levon affair. And they gave the people who were participants in this. They gave them, they gave them what they call participation certificates. It's kind of like an Amazon card or something. And so basically it's like, oh, thank you so much for, you know, trying to kill people. Now we can acknowledge that you did it. Like, here, here's, here's your Apple card. And seriously, 2,000. And this is another tactic of Zionists, like using the victimization. Look at the Arab Jews. Let's see what they did to the Arab Jews. Because there is, and you'll need to pull that up, too. A lot of the Yemeni Jews who made it to Israel, their kids were taken away from them and they were told. Were taken away and they were told they were dead. And then. Is this 1951? You can, you can search the lost Yemeni kids or the Yemeni Jews or the. It was a New York Times article. Yemenite children affair. Yes.
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The Yemenite children affair refers to the disappearance of many Yemenite Jewish babies and toddlers of immigrants in the newly founded state of Israel from 48 to 54. The number of children affected ranges from a thousand to five thousand. The majority of immigrants arriving in Israel during this period were from Yemen, Yemen, with considerable numbers coming from Iraq, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and the Balkans. According to low estimates, one in eight children of Yemenite families disappeared. Hundreds of documented statements made over the years by the parents of these infants alleged that their children were removed from them.
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So I'll tell you what happened. So they would go in and then they would go into the hospital. Like a kid will have a cold or something. And then they will tell them, your kid died, and then they will take that kid and give it to a white Ashkenazi Jews from. From Europe.
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Is that in here, too? There have been allegations that no death certificates were issued and that parents did not receive any information from Israeli and Jewish organizations as to what had happened to their infants. However, Yaakov Lazowicz, chief archivist at the Israel State Archives has documented records showing that while the fate of a small fraction of the missing children cannot be traced, in the overwhelming majority of cases, cases the children died in hospital, were buried in the families notified. Although these illnesses, deaths and family notifications were handled with enormous insensitivity, in Lazwick's opinion, there was no crime, but there was a sin. Widespread speculation persists that the infants were given or sold to childless Holocaust survivors in a covert systematic operation. Conclusions reached by three separate official commissions set up to investigate the issue unanimously found that the majority of the children were buried having died from diseases.
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Yeah, so. And in the news, investigated. But in New York, in the New York Times, there is actually like a more in depth telling them that these were actually given to many of the.
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Have they ever found one, though?
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I have no.
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They ever found a kid that they can run like a DNA test on? That's a big claim.
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Yeah, I, I, I, I have never, like, I, I've never went into this. But you know, there's also like a great, I think it's called the, the Lost Jewish Babies of Yemen or there was like a New York. Yeah, New York Times Y. Like a. It was a good article about. Yeah, yeah, let's find that.
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Got it right here.
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All right, so this is the disappeared children of Israel.
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Yes, the Disappeared children of Israel. In the state of Israel's early years, a number of parents in an immigrant transit camps were told that their babies had died. Their families believed the babies were abducted by the Israeli authorities in the 1950s and were illegally put up for adoption. Childless Ashkenazi families, Jews of European descent. A younger generation is demanding answers. So this is from 2019.
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Yeah,
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okay.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So it's a long article. People can check this out, though.
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Yeah, that's.
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I just read.
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And let me tell you about, like, another thing that they did to their own fellow Jews. Ethiopian women, Ethiopian Jewish women.
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What did they do to the Ethiopian one?
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So in.
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Because they rescued a bunch from.
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Yeah, Exactly. So from 1998 to 2012, something like that, the Ethiopian, the Jewish, Ethiopian women who were transferred from Ethiopia to Israel, they were giving without their knowledge, contraceptive shots to prevent them from reproducing.
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Why?
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Because they did. I don't know. I mean, I mean, my racist mind will say because they didn't want any more black Jews. But for 12 years, they were given shots by the Ministry of Health in Israel, which, by the way, was under the supervision of Benjamin Netanyahu. And after 12 years, Benjamin Netanyahu apologized, Apologized.
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So they actually let's find that apologizes for Ethiopian contraceptive shots.
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Yes. Holy.
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If that, that's even far for him because he actually apologized too.
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Yeah, you just, you can just say Israeli government contraceptive pills. Ethiopian women.
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I don't know why he would says they're not, there's no like official.
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Oh, come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But there, there, there's, there, there's like a lot of articles was written about like. Yeah, the Times.
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Yeah, in the, in the New York Times. They wrote about it. There's one in Times of Israel too.
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Yeah. Oh yeah, the one in Times.
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Pull that one up. See what they say. Ethiopian women claim Israel forced them to use birth control before letting them immigrate. They reject allegations as false from the immigration ministry, obviously.
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When was that the article?
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I'm sorry, this is 2012.
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Okay, 2012. No, there, yeah, there was the, but there was apologized. I don't know if it's or whoever was like taking like the control of the health ministry, but there was like an apology from the Israel, Israeli government
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for, for the misunderstanding.
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For the misunderstanding of giving them. We, we were just giving them vitamin B shots. They were giving them peptides. Yeah, we're giving them peptizing. Wow. Yeah. Here you go. Oh, yes.
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In 2013, the Israeli Health ministry implicitly acknowledged and apologized for the coercive administration of long acting contraceptive injections Dopo Provera to Ethiopian Jewish women. The ministry directed all gynecologists to stop her. Wow. That's actually. All right. All right, you got that one.
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I'm a walking in psyches.
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I was slightly skeptical on that one.
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Yeah.
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Holy.
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Yeah, you see all of that Ethiopian immigration is received contraceptive shops. There are many of many articles.
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A lot.
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Yeah.
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People. This is right on Google. AI people. You can even find it there. So that, that's nuts.
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I, I, it wasn't Benjamin, but it was like the government under.
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All right, real quick, I want to continue on this. I just gotta run to the bathroom. So.
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Yes. Yes.
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All right, we're back. You don't miss medicine at all?
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Never.
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Not at all.
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No. I was miserable being a doctor.
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Did you want to do it when you were a kid? How did you even get into it?
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That's why these are the choices that's available in the Middle East. You're allowed one of three choices. Being a doctor or an engineer or a disappointment. This is what you have. This is, this is what you're allowed to do. So I did it because, you know, like, what should I tell. Oh, I want to Be a creative writer, you know, Know, it's just, they
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wouldn't have accepted that.
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Like, I mean, it's not like we have the culture where I can go to my desk, like, I'm, I want to go and, and, and find myself, you know.
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Right, right.
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And he was just like, dude, you're, you're right here. I can, I can, I can see you. I found you and I didn't. So I, I did it because of, you know, what else can I do? And I'm the kind of a person where I'm input in a situation. This is how you brought up. You just like, you power through. Yeah. You don't have to be happy.
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B
What? Your dad.
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Happiness is overrated. My dad was a judge and my mom was a, was a business professor. Yeah, she was a college professor. She was teaching business. So they slipped. So, so, so it was like a typical middle class Egyptian family, you know, government employee, the, you know, middle class. And they, they are the type of people that would put all of their saving and put you in better education, give you better chances. So after they put you in an expensive school because, like, oh, you know what? I'm just gonna, I want to try like some, I want to do like some liberal arts. Like. No, you were gonna get. You're gonna be a doctor. You're gonna be a doctor.
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B
What made you land on being a heart surgeon?
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I always like surgery. I like to do things with my hands and I found it interesting. And then by the time I went into that, the specialty, which around 2001, catheters, like, you know, the intervention meds were killing us. So they took like 90% of our work because like, you know, the stents, you know, so there was a time like, you know, in the 80s and 90s, if you had anything, you. Open heart surgery. Open heart surgery. And then, and then, so like, you know, art surgeons were doing a killing. And then intervention, the cardiology, radiologists, those, they started to do something which is of course better for the patient. Instead of like splitting up your, your chest, you're going in a little Catherine, like clear.
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That was like, no, no, it's poison.
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And we're like, yeah, it's better for the patient, but it's worse for us. And this is. And kind of like there was a huge decline of, of like, you know, they basically took away 90% of our jobs.
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B
Jesus. So the Arab Spring was well timed for you?
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A
Yeah, it's kind of, it's, it's good to just like leave this competition older, just like going to comedy and then, and then not care about the next, you know, hard heart attack by someone else.
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B
Was that just like an overnight thing where literally you were still a doctor one day and the next day you had the show and you're like, I guess I'm done with that.
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A
No, I'm not that brief. Okay. I, it still was going on. It, it came, it came in, in increments. So when I got the offer. So at the time I was, I was actually applying for, for a fellowship in Cleveland.
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B
In Cleveland.
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When I was In Egypt, like 2010, 2011, Cleveland, there was something called the Rainbow Hospital for Children. So it was, I wanted to subspecialize in pediatric car surgery. And I, I got approved, you know, so I was waiting, you know, for the H1B visa, which, you know, this is how all the Indians came here. And there's no more. They took it all. But at the time in 2011, there was a still few H1 visas for the rest of us. And, And so, so, so I was waiting around, waiting for the visa. And, and while I was waiting, the Egyptian revolution broke out. And then I started on all of that. The visa is, is taking too long, you know, so I, so I started doing the videos and to blow up. And then I receive like this, you know, the offer to have my TV show. And on the same day that I received the offer, the papers from Cleveland arrived. And now I have to make a choice, you know, save the kids. So, so, so like, so the choice were like, you know, so should I choose this honorable, respectful profession that elevates people pains and make them happy, or should I continue being a doctor? So, So, so I said, so, so I, I, I called, I, I, I, I, I, I emailed the, the guy from Cleveland, and basically I had like a TV show, like, you know, waiting. So I couldn't tell them, like, I'm, I'm not gonna take your, your, it's like, you know, this is the time of the revolution and I need to be here in my country. I was like, my country needs me to be here right now.
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He's like, like this on John.
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And I need to just like, there's an obligation towards the people of my own country. But, and, but, but so who is
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B
the original them kids meme?
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A
Yeah, so my, so my mom, my mom was, was upset, so she accepted the fact that I wouldn't go on, you know, on the Cleveland thing because I'm not gonna travel. So for Arab moms, it's good. At least you're next to Me but tv but TV and sexy. She's like, no, you are going to continue being a doctor while doing the TV because you don't know if the TV thing will work or not. And she has a point. So for a year and a half I continued as a doctor while having my TV show on air.
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B
You working on bits while you're opening?
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so I kind of like, you know, I had to, I kind of reduced my hours as much as possible but I would still go there and teach to go there to operate occasionally. I still, you know, attend the drowns and I, I, and then as I was getting more famous, people in the hospital started to recognize me. Oh no, like the patients. And it was, and I remember we were having like a morning round, like, like a week round with, it was a grand round. So we have like the, the head of the department and all of the professors and the associate professors and I was at the time I was an attending doctor. So like you know, and we're, and we're going to have 20 people like next to doctor and going around the place patients. And then as we were there and one of the residents, you know, presenting the case like, you know, it was, it was getting ready for an aortic heart rep valve replacement. And then the patient, patient is sitting there and he's looking at the faces of the doctor sitting and he sees me, I, I see you on television and that, that's in front of the whole round. Oh, you are so funny. This guy like is he going to operate on me? So now I'm now in a position where patients are not taking me seriously because you know, because now like as a doctor you're going to go in and then explain, you know, the operation for the patient. It's like well we, we, we are going, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna have an incision midway through and then we're gonna have an electrical so and we're gonna split your chest in two. You're so funny. A doctor exactly like tv. You all like no, let me tell you, tell me really, really what's gonna happen? No, yeah, we gonna really split you open and we gonna stop your heart putting in hearts and you know there's like ah, okay, I need another doctor. So it was so by when I renewed my show for the second season, I was making actually like good money. I went to my mom's like mom, you know, you know the purpose of being a doctor or an engineer is to make money. Yeah, I'm making money now can I please leave medicine?
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B
I just can't do this no more.
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A
And, And. And. And my mom said, okay, as long as there's money.
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B
So then you hit her in 2014. Like, well, well, I dry.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. No, but it's. Yeah. So that was the. The shift.
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B
Are your parents still around or.
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A
No, they died in 24, 2013, and 24, 2014. Yeah.
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B
I'm sorry to hear that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Well, at least she got to do this odyssey without having.
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A
Well, at least they did. They didn't. They didn't see the. The ups and downs after which. Which, you know, Middle Eastern. Any parents will. Would feel. Would feel even more, and that would be even extra pressure on you because now you worry about them, worry about you. So. As if God was, you know, had this way of, like, you just need to worry about. Care about yourself. They are in a better place now. They died in their prime. They didn't have any problems, like, you know, you know, any sickness. And they. They really like all the memories I have for them. Like, they're in the prime. They're strong. They're strong. They're. They're independent. And, you know, it's. It's a blessing in disguise.
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B
Yeah, I agree. I. As I've seen some older family members live into very old age and really, like, fall off a cliff, and it's like, oh, yeah. Then they linger there for a while, and it's. At some point, it's like I'm cruel for still wanting them to be here.
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A
Yeah. This is actually the trauma that shaped my childhood, because as growing up, I saw my grandmother from my mom's side and grandfather, grandmother from my dad's side. The three of them dying a very long, humiliating death. You know, like dementia, Alzheimer's. They don't remember. They don't know who you are. They're like, you know, their bodily functions start to fail one by one. And that went on for years. Like, years years. And, you know, your dad and your mom is the most important thing to your life. So I would go there and then I would have. It would affect me. I said, like, oh, God, please don't let that happen to my parents. Please don't let happen to parents. And as devastating as it was, my mom went to sleep. She didn't wake up. My dad was like, cross the street, car accident, Devastating. They are taken away from you in a second, a split of a second. It's hard. It's heartbreaking. But as much. It's just like. It's as horrible as the pain Is they all my memories about them being independent, being strong, they didn't suffer. They went in their prime. They didn't have to see what their son had to go through. So in a way, they were spared. And I always say this, I always say this in everywhere I go. Like, our parents spend all their lives carrying our burden. And when my parents died, died, they didn't even let us carry theirs. So true. So this is, this is. They are like, you know, parents of the year, parents of the century, basically. They did all of us, everything to us, and they didn't even give us a chance to do anything for them. Just like not putting more burden on us, which is, you know.
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Yeah.
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So they're in my world, they are saints.
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B
That's really cool. That's got to be hard though, that it happened so quickly.
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Yes, it happened like maybe nine months apart. And how'd you adjust to that? Oh, it was devastating. Like, my mom died like right before she saw the flip against me in Egypt. And my dad died right before he saw me go to America and struggle. And it was like, right in my older brother, like, it hit him harder because he was closer to them. He was like older. He was, I, I was like, more like entrenched into this like new media life. It hit him harder for me. It just, it, it hit me hard. But in I, in the way that I adjusted is that I told myself this is a message for me. It's as if like God cut the umbilical cord. It's like you don't have to worry about this part of the world anymore. Go try to figure yourself out, which you, you try to tell yourself all kinds of things to adjust.
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B
Sure. Are you still close with your brother?
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Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah.
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B
And he lives in Egypt?
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He lives in Egypt. Sometimes he visits.
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B
Oh, so he can come here?
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A
Yeah, he come here. He visits. Yeah.
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B
Cuz you can't go there, right?
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It can't is now a big word. I would say can't maybe a few years ago, but I have to say, especially after October 7th, kind of like, you know, there is a lot of animals.
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He's cooking now.
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No, no, no, no, no. But there's a lot of animosities. It's kind of like being okay to put aside because honestly, we're having a common enemy right now. I mean, I can, I have many things to say about the Egyptian government and I have many things to say about the Egyptian politics, but honestly, compared to what Israel is doing in the, in the, in the region, if anybody Tried to drag me, like, what does, what do you think about Egypt? What do you think about Saudi? It's like, no, no, this is a distraction. You're trying to distract the conversation to just, like, to cover up for, like, the really genocidal state that is really, really up the politics in the Middle east and up the politics in America. So every time they try to drag me to talk, well, Egypt is not the most democratic, but at least they're not genocidal. At least they're not. They don't have a lobby that is buying our congressmen and they're using our money to commit a genocide. Yeah, you can say anything you say about all of the Arab countries. None of them is perfect. But like, yeah, I'm not gonna play your game by you trying to drag me into side discussions while, like, a horrible genocide is happening. Happening every day.
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Yeah. Now, what is the. That's actually a really important context that I think doesn't really get talked about here in America when we're looking at this issue more signet, more singularly as far as what's going on. But like, the current Egyptian government, obviously there were the peace accords years ago with Egypt. When was it?
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1978. 1978. 79. Yeah, right.
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And Jimmy Carter and all that. But like, what's the, what is the attitude? It seems like you're kind of answering the question, but, like, how would you describe the current attitude of Egypt's administration right now towards Israel and what that has diplomatically looked like?
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Well, I think, you know, we do have a, you know, officially have a peace treaty with Israel, and this treaty is overlooked and sponsored by the United States, and we are allies with the United States. So. But the same you can say about Turkey. Turkey is a NATO member and they're allies of the United States. And then you, I mean, I haven't seen Turkey or Egypt attacking. Attacking Israel or trying to threaten its existence. And yet you listen to the Israelis, they're talking blatantly about Turkey is the new Iran, and after that there will be Egypt.
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Yeah, it's crazy.
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To answer your question, what do you think about the attitude? Not just the Egyptian government, all of the Arab government, a lot of people say, well, why don't the Arab countries stand up for Israel? Well, you know, what will happen next? America will them up. Because you, when you go against Israel, you're going against the nuclear power for United States, you're going against all of the USS Lincoln and USS Whatever, Gerald Ford, you, You're going against the American military because Basically, Israel is an outpost for American imperialism. They. This is it. So, So I think that every single American Arab government is walking with thin ice because they, they, they, they, they are. They don't agree with what happens. But basically, basically you're dealing with a madman who's just shooting his way out and wanting to drag everybody else to war. So, yeah, we can sit here and talk about how the Egyptian government is not doing enough and they can do more and what they can do diplomatically and what they go as a pressure, but really. And it will be fair to criticize and say they're not doing enough, they should be doing more. But the core of the problem is a matter madman drag, dragging a big bully into war, scaring everybody else. And if you go out of line, you will be the next Iran. They're saying this about Turkey, a NATO member.
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That's.
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That when I saw that, they, they don't care. And you know, here's. Here's the thing. What I find it very interesting when
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they say Turkey's the next Iran.
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Yeah, yeah. Turkey is the new Iran. And then just the. The spy. What's his name?
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Jonathan Pollard.
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Jonathan Pollard. Just like it was an interview yesterday. Well, we know we should just. We should not be shy by using nuclear weapons. Doesn't have to be nuclear weapons because just like electromagnetic pulsar. And then we will have to go against Iran, against Turkey, and against Egypt. Like, what the hell, man? You know, we can hear you. We're sitting right there. We're sitting right there. What the. Because, you know, this is what, what really drives me mad when we talk about Israel. We have to be very careful. No, no, no, no. This is genocide. No, no, no. This is. This is anti Semitic. I told you.
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A huge anti Semite.
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No, no. Yeah, yeah, of course, like, officially chosen by the Israeli government, so suck it. So, so, so, so the thing is, every time it's like, oh, you, you. We want to kill the Jews. You want to. Dude, they are talking about Elimina. There is nothing more. There's nothing more hypocritical. Tell you from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Is genocidal. Because that means that you want to wipe out Israel, but in the same time, you have the Israeli government, the Israeli officials standing there with the map of Greater Israel right next to them. And even on the. The soldiers, like, they have the badges of the, of the, of the Greater Israel. Right. They're telling you. Which means wiping out seven Arab countries.
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Yes.
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Half of Egypt, half of Iraq, parts of Turkey. Parts, parts of Jordan, all of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Lebanon, Syria and parts of Saudi Arabia. So basically telling me, oh yeah, like, oh, you can talk, don't, cannot talk about Israel and it's right to exist, but we would freely display a map showing that our intended borders will not stop until we wipe up the people in these seven countries. What kind of hypocrisy is that?
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Of insane.
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It's insane hypocrisy. But again, what are you going to do about it?
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Yeah, nothing. You can't talk about that. And that's the issue. This is what I was going to bring up before the break. You know, I really think, just because I listen, I take people at their word. When you see leaders saying things like this and openly supporting it. We already mentioned what they said about Lebanon and stuff, whether it be Smotrich or Cats or Ben Kavir is nuts. But like you, you know when they keep telling you they're trying to take this land that God promised them and then you see all these actions that happen on the outside. Let me, let me paint the picture this way. I started to notice that after October 7th, in particularly all these people, whether it's Benjamin Netanyahu or the guy who runs the adl, Jonathan Greenblatt, or you name it, some type of organization that's tied to, to the Zionist government in particularly that wants to kind of spread that word every time they would go to do something, whether it be send a tweet, appear on Piers Morgan, give an interview to some random person on tv, you know, come out and make a statement on camera through the government, whatever it might be, anytime that they would be doing something that people were going to hear. If you could imagine, they had two choices every time. And choice A was not even good. It's just like, this won't make things worse. Saying this will not make things worse. And then choice B is this will make things much worse and have the opposite effect of what we're claiming to want to get through every single time. These motherfuckers chose choice B all the time. And so I asked myself, as someone who had studied Benjamin and Yah's life, and particularly I was like, you know, don't like the guy. But did he suddenly become really stupid? I don't think so.
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No. They do that in their spitting in your face.
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a secret reptile population. You can watch the record breaking phenomenon at home. You're clearly barking at. Zootopia 2 now available on Disney plus rated PG. Yeah, they are spitting in your face. They're telling you. They're telling you exactly what I'm telling you. It's like, hey, we're going to do all of this. We're going to fuck you over what you're going to do about it. And if you speak about it, you're anti Semitic, you know. So I would say that Israel is the only trans country in the world. Yeah. They can play the victim and the oppressor in the same time. They shift all the time. They oppress you and then. Oh my God, you were victimized. The Holocaust. What the trouble S. It's just like I'm. I'm just like sick and tired of this multiple. And then it. This is stupid, man.
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B
But you think there's something to that? You think that's what they're.
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A
No. There's records of Benjamin Netanyahu speaking in Hebrew and speaking even in English television. We control the American Congress. We control. We don't care. We can do whatever they want. And the thing is they have the money because a lot of people when they say Israel control America, it's like, oh, they. This is very conspiracy theorist. Like, well, if you have enough money, you can enough buy enough people in the government. And once you buy enough people in the government, you control the government. You control the country. You don't really. They're not controlling 300 million Americans. They control the very. The 200 people up there who are writing the laws.
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It's really hard to not see that there's something to that. Especially like when you watch what just happened. Happened to Thomas Massie.
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Yeah. 32. 32. With $35 million. And that was. That was until like two years ago. The record was $16 million for a. For a. For a Congress seat by Jamal Bowman, which also was. Yeah. So imagine in two years they doubled the spending for one seat. And the thing is here, here's the thing. They didn't really need the seats because they have the numbers, you understand, they already have 98% of the seats. But it's a of matter message. Even if you are even like a minority will not be allowed to exist and objecting a more. Even if it was one seat, you're gone. You're gone. So it's not really about them ousting Messi because even if Messi made it, him alone would not make any difference. But it is a message. Like anybody who think, even think about going out of the line. We will spend all of the money out there to get you out of the seat.
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I think it's going to have the opposite effect though, again, because this, this
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was what would happen.
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This was ideal. This is why I say this. This was ideal for them. It was a closed primary, right? So it's already a, it's not a general election year. It's already a primary. It's not even like a regular election. Democrat versus Republican. It's just Republican on Republican. You had to be a registered Republican to vote. So you already have the lowest type of turnout election. And then, and then you have to be actually registered under that party to vote. And Thomas Massieu is very popular with the people below age 55, but the people who vote in that kind of election are the people who watch fucking TV where ads of AI shit and slop are fed to them and they just believe it's true. And they're all over age 55 so they could win this one. But in doing so, I actually think jolted a lot of people because many people around the country who are just even passively watching this have looked at Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna from the Republican and Democratic Democrat sides, respectively, and said, wow, two politicians that actually tried to do the right thing, you know, and now one of them's gone and the other one's on the chopping block in, in January. And they can see the money that was spent on it and they can
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see who spent it. So it's a scare tactic. It's a, it's a message. It's a message. Thomas Messi seat is not that important. It is the message behind it that is important. That is worth the $35 million we got. We spent $35 million just to show you what we, we can do. If you're not compromised by some child porn shit, we gonna spend money against you. And it's funny, like speaking about Republican Primaries. There's a very interesting Republican primary happening in Florida. Dan Bzarian and Randy Fine. Yeah, I actually interviewed the Dan Bzarian. I went to his home in Las Vegas. Okay, can I say my experience with Dan Bzarian? Because me, like many other males out there, followed Dan Balzarian for all of the different kind of reasons that we follow him now. Because we were like, you know, he was, like, living this hedonistic, like, lifestyle. It was crazy. And then after October 7th, the guy just changed his mind. And then he started to DM me. It's like. It's like he text me, like, great work.
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I said, oh, my God, Dan Bazerian.
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Dan Bilzerian, the guy that I wanted to attend the party. So I said, you know, just like,
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hey, man, how you doing?
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And I was like, hey, I know. Big fan. And then it's like, your wife that. And then she knows. And then
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B
pull on Elon Musk and bring it with you.
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No, Elon Musk is not even allowed into the cool parties. We know that. Like, imagine. Imagine, like, Elon Musk. He was like. He was so dull. He wasn't even invited to Pedo Island. So anyways,
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so.
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So, like. And then, like, I started talking to him, and then I said. Said, you know, we got personal. We got, like, close, like, texting. And then I was asking him, you know, what about, like, you know, the stuff, the life, the lifestyle. Like, no, this. This part is behind me anymore. And he's like. He's actually have. In the interview, we talk, he talked very profoundly about how he had everything. I mean, you know, that life, all of the gambling, all of the money, all of the drugs, everything. And he went to the. I said, like, I went. I reached the end of the line, and I came back empty. And that life is behind me and I'm not there. I'm. I mean. I mean, I'm more into monogamy now. I'm not in this crazy. Like, he. He spends his weekend playing paintball, you know, or hiking or. And so lifestyle change. So, yeah, so I said, so it's like. Like, you know, part of me is like, I'm happy for him. And part of me, it's like, shit. Couldn't just, like, known me before. You just made the shift, so I would just enjoy, you know, that part of life that you don't have enough. I mean, you know, I can. So, yeah, but I'm happy for him, so. But actually, I went to his house in Vegas.
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In Vegas?
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Yes.
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B
He hasn't moved locations I guess.
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No, no, no. He has a house in Vegas and house. Because he grew up in Florida, but he stays in Vegas. So I live in Los Angeles. I said, like, I'm coming to you. We're gonna do the interview. It was very nice. We spent like the interview, maybe like, we took two hours doing the interview, but we spent like six hours talking and eating in his kitchen. Just talking about like, isn't that the best talking about. Yeah, it would have been much better with their women there. But there. No, no, but we, we. And the interview is quite explosive because Dan Bzarian, he, he goes a little bit to the extreme. And I think, and I think a lot of people will not like that interview. I mean, I'm editing it now. A lot of people will not like what Dan B. Had to say. They will, they will call him extreme, that you call him too much. But in my mind, it's like, you know, this is what you get when you start to police and controlled people speeches. Some people will just go off the rails, are like, you know what? Enough of this. This is, this I'm gonna, and I don't care if you don't like it, because this is what you get when you start to police people's and, and, and guilt trip them and put them into all of these, you know, spirals of like accusations and, and, and guilt tripping. This is what you get. You're gonna get like an unfiltered, very uncomfortable speech. And this is what you have to deal with. So I, I, I say, you know what? I know that a lot of people would have problems with some of the stuff that Dan Bazarian said, but, you know, it's free speech.
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And free speech has to win for sure. I agree with.
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Even if you don't like the speech. And, and, and, and I think it's the same people who tell me, well, no, the, the cure for free speech is more speech. Now they're telling you, no, we need to stop the speech. Yeah, that's cool. You see how they change. No, no, no, but this is hate speech. It's like, well, well, you have same thing. Well, you have pushed people to that by not allowing them to speak.
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You have to let ideas go out into the public forum and be fleshed out. And yeah, that the best part about free speech is the fact that it is so painful sometimes. But that's, that's what the essence of it.
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Yeah. And which brings back to, to like, you know, there are a lot of people saying, look at him, Bazarian, how Could you support. First of all, I'm not supporting him. I'm interviewing him, giving him the space. I don't have to agree with everything that he says. There's some stuff that you say that I might have, like, a disagreement with. But for me, it would be a poetic justice for him to unseat someone like Randy Fine. Because for me, if someone with, like, Dan Balzerian, with any. Everything that you need to talk about him, about all of his past life and about the drugs of the women or there's a guy on the stairs and all of the jokes that you make about him, if people would actually give him a fighting chance against Randy Fine. Now that's the message. That's a message even stronger than the $35 million that was poured against Messi. That's the people telling me, you know what? We will take anyone except that guy, except Randy Fine. With a piece of. Genocidal Zionist piece of. You know, and I would say, like, a guy will. Who's. Who's like. Who's on steroids and, like, had, like, history limit. For me, it's much better than a guy that. Who's telling me, like, let's call all Muslims, kill all Palestinian. Read the plot for less New Gaza. Seriously, like, you have a problem with a guy who have, like, a certain lifestyle who's even now behind him, but you, you're gonna go with that guy. So for me, that is the message.
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B
Yeah. And. And God, I have so many thoughts
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A
on this, so first of all, let's explore your thoughts. Thoughts. Tell me about your childhood.
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B
This guy, while you were in the bathroom, de.
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A
I.
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B
He was asking me about my shoulder, suddenly went into doctor mode and was checking out my shoulder.
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A
That's why I asked, have a break.
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B
I'm like, you sure you don't love this?
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A
He was.
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B
He was coming around the table like, yeah, all right.
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A
I was just like, you know, I'll be all right. But what I'm saying, I was just, like, feeling his very muscular
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B
pause. Are you sure you want it? You a Diddy party or a Dan Bian party?
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A
I mean, I don't know. I'm running to Congress, so I don't know. Maybe it's time to be compromised and. And switch into political careers.
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B
Okay, we can talk about that. But I agree with you. Randy Fine is an awful human being. Really makes me sick, the things he says. And, you know, someone that is, like, if you just create the worst stereotype, like, that's it right there. My whole thing is. And it's Nothing personal against Dan Bilzerian. Like, I try to look at it based on what your enemies would want. Okay. And if your enemies were, you know, Netanyahu or the government in Tel Aviv that wants Greater Israel or something like that, and you just are like, I don't want that. If I were them, what would I want you to do? I would want you to respond with the worst kind of stereotype from the other side so that they could sit there and actually claim injury, even with a guy like Brett, like Randy.
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A
But I'm sorry, but they're doing the same anyway. They do this. They're doing anyway. Even if, like, they're doing it, like,
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B
don't you think moderation should win out?
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A
No, no, I, I, I think, I think in a perfect world, like, yes, but we're not in a perfect world. And as you have said, every action has a reaction with equal magnitude.
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B
What else did I say? What I said, I really wish those actions were more.
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A
Yeah, you wish, but that's not the world we're living in.
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B
That's true.
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A
And, and, and, and, and I wish that too. I wish that all of us would be moderate and I wish all of that would, like, go, go Kumbaya and, like, live. But, like, as matter of fact, if you're going to push hard, if you're going to, like, you know, slam me to the wall and have, like, my, you know, make me trapped, I'm going to act in a very much more violent. And I don't condone this, I don't approve of this, but it is just what happens. I mean, I'm sure that, you know, there's a lot of people who wish that there was not, like, uprising and revolutions and there are people dying, but this is a result of what's happening. October 7th did not happen. In fact, I wish October 7th did. It didn't happen. I wish it never happened. But there was reasons that pushed people to that, to the brink. Whether they want to do it by design, because we want to do it so we can use that. I mean, yeah, but you can't control the world and you cannot control people's reaction. You cannot control people's emotions. And at a certain point, like, how many times today did we said this, like, what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it? Well, someone like Dan Balzari is doing something about it. You might not agree, agree with him, but he's pushing and maybe he is moving to what you call the Overtone window. So people will have actually have more freedom to move into different spaces of speech.
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B
But don't you think that the government over there, the hard line advocates, they want to victimize fellow Jews around the world who have no say in the matter to make people hate.
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A
But they do it. But they're doing, but they will do that anyways, whether you have them Bazarian or not. I mean, one of the things that they use.
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B
But doesn't he expedite that, the way he talks about it?
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A
Okay, how, what is, what, what is something that he would say that you say?
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B
Like, like he's been taken out of context to be clear on.
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A
Yeah, he's been taken out of. And when he, when he talks about Jewish supremacy and what. Oh, Jewish supremacy. Like. Well guys, you.
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B
When I'm referring to when he talks about like all Jews do this or
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A
all Jews do that, we shouldn't say that. I think, I mean, in my interview at least it's like, I'm not saying that every Jewish person is doing that. I think he was very specific and I think many of the. Yeah, so he said that at least in my interview he was very clear that he didn't say every single Jewish person. Okay, so, so, so. But he would say that the people who are very vocal, who are in power, who are, who are actually like have the power to change things with the money and the power mostly are Jewish Zionist. You know, the people who are like for example, Jewish voices for peace or people who talk against Israel, they are sidelined by Israel themselves, calling them, you know, self hating Jews. They're not Jews. So when you. So, so here's another. That's actually like an important part now. You, you said something very important that no, we should not generalize.
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B
You said something important.
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A
You said a lot of stuff.
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B
Thank you.
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A
But one of the things that you said like we should not generalize, which, which I totally agree. But now you have a situation where many, many of the Jewish activists, Jewish artists, Jewish comedians, Jewish politicians, authors who are against Israel, against Zionism, who speak up and every time they do that, that tsunami of attack on them, the character assassination, calling them Kapus, calling themselves hating Jews, calling them not feel Jews. So you have the people with the authority, with the, the money telling you that anytime you hear a Jewish saying something outside of what we say about our genocidal speech, this is not a Jew. So now Judaism is us and us is Judaism. We are Jud, we are one. And so at a certain point when you, when you, when you Shut down all of these people. You are the one who radicalized the conversation from, from the get go.
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B
Oh, I agree with that.
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A
You really do. And, and, and then at a point certain, a certain point, you will not ask people, okay, let's be civil, let's be moderate. People will react.
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B
That's why me, that's what I'm saying. Me, an outside guy who's not on either side of that issue in that respect. I'm not from Israel. I'm an American watching this all unfold. I'm a guy that's trying to say, like, hey, let's ask all the hard questions. And the people who say that you can ask these questions. That's why we do podcasts like this. And I love it. But also, also like, let's chill with some things. Let's not let that, let's not run away.
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A
Well, I think we need to actually tell this advice to the people like the ADL and people and Randy Fine, of course, and who are getting away with murder.
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B
Of course.
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A
I mean, if Randy Fine his tweets about let the blood flow, let the blood flash. If he, if you exchanged Palestinians to Jewish, this guy would be executed the next day. Yeah, right. So now you blame someone like Dan Balzarian who might sometimes talk out of line, sometimes take something, be bit. A little, little bit uncomfortable, say something and he.
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B
I agree. Randy finds worse.
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A
Yeah. So, so, so, so, so I'm, I'm, I'm just, I, I'm just like sick and tired of, of, of, of, of every time they both, they both sided the stuff and they, they, they, they make it equal. It's like, no, like Dan Belzerian could be anything, but he's not controlling your Congress.
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B
Right?
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A
Dan Bilzerian is everything but, but he, he tax money to send it to, to, to, to commit a genocide. So. And, and, and we can talk about this speech. And again, I'm not defending anything they said. I actually when I was interviewed, like, like, damn, cool down a little bit. It's like, no, no, this is, let's get some. No, just kidding.
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B
Maybe that's what it is. He's not distracted enough, you know? Yeah, no, we distracted distractions.
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A
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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B
I mean, you're out in LA though too, right?
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A
What?
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B
But that's where you live in la.
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A
Yeah, no, it's a lot of Jews out there. Yeah, but many of them are actually my friends.
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B
Exactly.
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A
Actually, many of them. Actually, one of them is actually, they're actually a comedian. A friend of mine, his name is Matt Leap. And he has a podcast called Bad Hasbro. You should get them on your show. And he is, he is, he does it sometimes. He's co hosted by the son of Dr. Gabor Mati.
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B
Oh yeah, yeah.
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A
And they're both of them Jewish and they are like funny and they basically specializing in Israeli propaganda. That's their whole show. It is so funny. And he's a comedian, we work together, we travel together, sometimes opening. And I have a friend of mine, his name is David Spivak. He's Israeli Jewish. His father fought in the IDF and I interviewed him. He's 100% anti Zionist, anti Israeli.
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B
Now what made that shift for him?
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A
Well, he talks about how he was brainwashed as a young kid in the Sunday school and he was told to fear or Muslims. And then he started dealing with Muslims. He kind of reversed the brainwashing and now he's. And whether Matt or whether David. And like many of them, they are excommunicated from their community. They are told that they're bad Jews. They're told that they're like, you know, self hating Jews. They are like disowned by their own family. And these are the people who are doing the fight. These people. I mean I am doing something might be a little bit difficult, but these people going against their own people.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So when you have examples like these, like what's her name? Hannah Eidenberg, the girl that starred in Hacks on HBO when she received the Emmys. I think she received an Emmy award.
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B
I don't think I saw this.
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A
Yeah, yeah, Hannah Eisenberg. She's in Hacks Hacks. She's a young Jewish comedian, very funny. Great show by the way. And when she receiving her award, she talked about genocide Free Palestine. She's like ice. We're like, you know, like, this is what's happening. Genocide. And she was slaughtered by Zionist media. They should call like Jew. You know. So when Jewish people speak up, you shut them down and then you tell everybody, no, there's only one opinion, there's only one way to do it. And this is the Zionist way and the Zionist Zionism equal Judaism, anti Semitism, equal anti Zionism.
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B
Yeah, that's my point.
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A
They start speaking for them. So me and you, a few people might be have a cool head about it, but certain people say, yeah, fuck all Jews. Yeah, all of them then. So if you're telling them that's the only example. Okay, I will just have this kind of reaction. And so it's. I actually had a talk with a British professor I had a tour in London last year and I went into discussion with him about during the war in Gaza when we saw the Israeli soldiers going into Palestinians homes and wearing lingerie, women's lingerie, and playing with the kids. And I said, first of all, no disciplined army in the world will allow their soldiers to do something unless it was encouraged or even. Or allowed. Right, Right. So you have them now displaying this. I mean, your vis. Like, what the are these people doing?
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B
Right?
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A
So I said, like, why would they allow this? It's like, well, it is by design. They want people to hate them. And then at certain point, some people conflate Israel Zionism with Judaism and someone will do or say something stupid and then they will use it for further victimization and the search circle going on. So again, if it's not Dan Balzarian, it was. It was the. It was the Israeli soldier in lingerie. They are doing this to troll you, to push you to the limit. All they're like, yeah, we're gonna go to war. We gonna kill them. We're gonna do this greater. What are you gonna do about it? They are. They want. They want that reaction because usually if someone do something stupid, it will be done to a helpless Jew, someone who had nothing to do with this because he's not as protected. And then they will use that pain of vagabond guy in order to further their victimization the same way they did with Holocaust survivors. I don't know if you know this, but Israel is known to cash in the reparations from the German government and they didn't give money to the survivors. As a matter of fact, there is articles about. Now there is a dis. They despise Holocaust survivor because they consider them the weak. Less weak Jew Jews was trembling knees now. So they actually have. They have. They despise their. The people who really went through. Through the.
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B
That's crazy. Yeah. I believe it was Ronan Bergman in his book or Rise and Kill first or whatever.
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A
I.
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B
But if I'm remembering the wrong book and it's a different one I read. Correct me in the comments if you recognize this people. But there's like, it's an anecdotal story, but it was based on the exact attitude you're talking about. There would be this group in like the 1960s of Old man men in downtown Jerusalem that we would be playing pinochle. And four of them were in Israel or Palestine during the war. And one of them was a Holocaust survivor. And they used to call the Holocaust survivor soap.
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A
Soap Sabunim. Sabunim, by the way, which is soap, which is actually very close to the Hebrew word. Coward. It's a play on words. Sabunim.
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B
Because they couldn't understand. They're like, why wouldn't you just rise back? But like, like, it's not that simple, man.
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A
Yeah. Yes.
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B
Israel has historically withheld, you cooked again. And delayed certain Holocaust reparation funds, drawing intense domestic and international criticism. The controversies generally stem from a few specific policies and administrative actions. Early reparations in the 1950s. In 1952, Luxembourg Agreement, West Germany agreed to pay reparations to the state of Israel largely to offset the immense cost of absorbing 500,000 Holocaust survivors. While this went directly to the state rather than the individual survivors. Survivors. The Israeli government defended this by arguing the money was necessary to build the country and ensure the murderers did not become the heirs of stolen property.
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A
Yes. Like, we build the countries, we paid for our government. It's crazy.
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B
It's crazy.
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A
And I think there was also an article about the whole thing about the, you know, there's how they despise the survivors, the Holocaust survivors and this old, old idea about the Jews with the trembling knees. I remember that, that exact, exact expression. And now.
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B
And they worked with, they work with like Scorsani and some other ex Nazis. Like.
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A
Yeah, there was like a whole. Actually they worked with the Nazis in order. Because here's the thing.
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B
In Egypt.
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A
Yes, The Zionist leaders don't care about the regular everyday Jewish person. Yeah, they don't care.
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B
I agree.
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A
Yeah. So they just. They care about the idea and Zionism. And the only way that you can be a Zionist is to horrible ideas and policies.
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B
That's why I like to talk about it how I do, because I want to be able to, you know, use my little teeny corner of the Internet to separate those two, because I don't think it's fair to the people that they claim to speak for. It's like some of your friends, by the way, you know, it's like, it's so off and, and it's really. It's just the epitome of evil because they're trying to create that endless cycle that then gets them what they. They want. Hopefully more bodies over there so they can fill out more land.
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A
Yeah, yeah. And they have. And they have the money to protect them, to, to provide for them, and they have the media to cover up for them.
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B
Is the media still not?
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A
Well, I mean, anything that I would say in response to that would be considered anti Semitic. Is It Is it crazy now that like, the truth itself is anti Semitic? It is anti Semitic to say the truth. You know, I had, I had, I had a conversation with an American diplomat once. It was a heated conversation. I said, like, you know, like it was in the middle of genocide is doing this genocide. And then he said, well, the. The average American citizen does not care about what's happening in Palestine. The average American citizen cares about health care, about the daily school shooting, about the immigration status, about the military. Said, no, this is what the media is telling them to care about. The media is. Look at, they always pitting like the issues and the sides against each other. And then maybe at the end they will tell you something about the Middle east and the beginning. It will always start by something that Israel is suffering from. And then maybe they will. So that's why you create the interest. You create the that. So, so it is by design. It is by design that the. That the Americans don't care about the Middle east because they. If, if, if, if the media would hit what Israel is doing, taking away our money, the same way that they would hit whatever they want about like, you know, the, the health care and whatever and, and hours and hours and hours and hours of coverage. Americans will care, but they. It is by design that they will not care.
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B
How about the fact though, that so many people, especially younger generations, are online now where a lot of the. This is less filtered if you.
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A
So it's interesting that you say that like. So, so the big wakeup call after October 7th have happened on which platform?
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B
Yeah.
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A
And where is Tik Tok now?
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B
I, I see what you're doing here. Yeah. Yeah. You see, remember all the same people that wanted it to be shut down
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A
because, because of the China. Because of China.
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B
Well, now we got to sell it
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A
to and which, like, oh, we go. We cannot allow. We know our information to be on a Chinese platform. You do your, like, you create your iPhones in China. Like the hardware comes from China. What the hell are you talking about? You know, so it's so, so you see, they, they, they now they, they. They're playing catch up. Okay, like, okay, like TikTok is a problem. Let's buy TikTok. Oh, remember that phone call? Yeah, remember. Oh, yeah, the phone calls.
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B
We've been playing this left, right game.
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A
It's not a left game. It's not the right game. It's. So we have a TikTok problem, you know, so, so it is there in your face and we speak about it and you tell like well, they control the media. That's anti Semitic, dude. They literally do. They designers control the media. Right. They do control the media. You have one person who's now owning half of the media, which. And the other platform already owned by Ellison. Yeah. And also that's why, for example. I'll give you an example example of. Of how the media covers up. You remember the sting operation in Nevada?
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B
The sting operation.
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A
The sting operation. The FBI. The guy who, like the, like the child, like the, The Israeli cyber security guy.
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B
Yeah, he just got extradited.
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A
And he, he got extradited the next day. Like, you know, he was.
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B
You're talking about Alexander was the Israeli official.
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A
Exactly.
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B
Now there's. You see the other one now.
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A
Yeah, yeah, there's another one.
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B
The Ori guy.
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A
Yeah, but you see, I, I went to CHP and I said, like, has this thing has been covered by any of the major outlets? And said, no, no. So what they do, they would cover up because in the podcast and they. And you know, podcast, like, you know, Patrick Pit Davis and all of like, the pro Zionist, like, stuff, you know, the, the. They would, they would mention it, but then they will. We just like, you know, like, muddle the conversation. They were just so. So now even with the podcast, they have their people in the podcast. Podcasts too. You either buy it or you just like, you know, flood the media, the medium with shit. So the order is not. The idea is not to win the debate. The idea is not have a debate. The idea is to keep the debate
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B
going, to muddle, to muddy the waters
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A
with too much noise and keep the debate going. Just keep the debate. So it become by noise, noise, noise, noise, noise, noise. And after people exhaust it, you wake up the next day, Israel has annexed another. Another piece of land.
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B
Yeah, you have a point there. I mean, that's kind of. That's kind of exactly what we just saw, actually, to be clear.
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A
Yeah. And you. So you talk about, hey, we're talking, we have free speech. We're talking about. We're talking about, we're talking about. And as. And as me and you talking, Israel has just killed 15 people in Lebanon. We talk about it, we talk about it, we talk about. We don't know it's Israel. No. Like, what can you do? Like, but Israel has a right to exist. Like, what is the proportion this month? And then be. Before they wake up the next day, Israel has annexed like 200 km of Lebanon. And then we're like, they have like, you know, destroyed five, five houses in the West Bank. They are buying time while they're doing the same thing. So now you have this illusion of freedom of speech. We're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking. But with just doing that, we're talking, and then. Then they're just doing whatever they want.
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B
Well, he brought a bazooka, so I don't know if he's going to do something with that. That's sitting out in the living room.
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A
Oh, my God. Another stereotype. Oh, yeah.
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B
Oh, my God.
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A
You know what? I find it funny. You know how the stereotypes of Arabs speak. There is more in Hebrew more than Arabs. Like, Hebrew is full of. And all of the movies they have produced making fun of. Of Arabs. Yeah, they have the. This is actually more in Hebrew and they made it to be like an Arab thing. It's a Hebrew thing. I mean, we have it, but it's more magnified. Okay, can I give you a little bit of a tidbit? Do you remember the movie the Dictator?
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B
Yes, of course. Yeah.
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A
I remember that scene when he was in the helicopter and he was talking to this guy, and there's two older couples and there's like a 9, 11. He was speaking Hebrew. He was speaking Hebrew with a bastardized, like, Arab accent. No. Oh, yeah. Like, there's. I'm not saying he's speaking Hebrew Hebrew, but they use, like, a lot of Hebrew words and they made it look as if. So it's Arabic.
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B
Yeah, that's how they get you over time. It is something.
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A
There's some other people also spoke Hebrew in some recording, in some plane.
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B
It do enlighten me on that one. I think I'm unfamiliar.
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A
No, you can look it. Look it up. Look it up for you. That's a no afterwards.
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B
We're not. We're not getting that one. I mean, we've gone this far.
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A
No, I mean, like, I mean, it's not verified. I mean, it's not verified. There's like, you know, a video, so. But again, it could be anything. But there was, like, a recording of people. But I know I don't know the authenticity of this video, so I could
- [135:57]
B
have been one of them AI things.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, I'll. I'll talk to you later after the show, like. But I'm not gonna stand behind this because I cannot verify it.
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B
I appreciate that.
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A
Yes.
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B
You got. You got to stop at the cliff before you jump off.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to ease up with the conspiracy. Just, like, scale it back.
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B
Well, you know what's not, you know it's not a conspiracy theory. The fact that in the literal White House manual or whatever you want to call it, release of Operation Epic Fury, they're literally saying what they had already said in some press conferences out loud, which is that the war in Iran itself was started. Can we get the words right? So I don't this up, thief, but
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A
we'll find it started because Israel was going incest. Yes. This is the funniest analogy. It's like we went in because we knew that Israel would bomb and the Iranian would respond. So it's like. It's like he was like, hey, I killed your dog. Because I knew that if I hit him, he will bite me back. So I just killed him.
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B
Operation Epic Fury. White House.
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A
Actually, Mark Ruby. Mark Ruby said it. There's like.
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B
Yeah. Marco Rubio said it out loud and Mike Johnson said it separately out loud. The same day. And that same day, Donald Trump implied it. He didn't quite.
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A
We did it because. Yeah.
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B
Peace through strength. Operation Epic Fury crushes Iranian threat as ceasefire takes hold. Can we search Israel in there? Just do a fine next.
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A
Because they.
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B
They now this. This was. It was the one earlier where they were. This is before the ceasefire. It might be this one. Yeah. Operation Epic Fury. Go to Twitter and pull up, because I want to make sure we get this. Just so people know we're not talking out of our ass. I know a lot of people seen this. Operation Epic Fury. White House, Israel and go down. Go down. The White House admits.
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A
Yeah, go. Go up, up, up. No, up, up, up. Go up. Yeah. Here is the art.
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B
Trump's proposed deal threatens to leave Iran stronger. Nah. Because that's. That's when the deal was going through. This is when they were literally talking about why they went into the war. And I know people out there have seen this. Like this.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
And we were on the. In a previous podcast. Podcast. We were on the actual link. Like the White House link. White House admits. I. I don't even know. Yeah, it's funny. They're like, Baron.
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A
They, they. They. Like the, The. The shorthand of this is like, they, they admitted that they went in because they knew that Israel would hit Iran and Iran would respond, so they went in so they would hit Iran. So they.
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B
That's crazy. And it's like, you know, my whole thing is the world is so complex. You can't just invade everywhere. You don't. Like.
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A
We all know. We all know for sure, Heidi. We all know why America is fighting the war in Iraq. We all know. Right. Because The President of the United States is a fucking pedophile.
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B
So you're certain?
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A
Hey, the conspiracy theorists have been right many times.
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B
It's possible. Oh, deep. Got it. Just so we have it. Epic Fury is only the latest round of an ongoing international armed conflict with Iran. As the United States has explained in Multiple letters to UN Security Council, including most recently on March 10, the United States is engaged in the conflict at the request of and in the collective self defense of its Israel ally. As well as they. I love that they threw this in here at the end as well as in the exercise of the United States own inherent right to self defense, self defense against war, self defense.
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A
And I like, I like the fact that like. And in the collective self defense of its. What's the collective. What's a collective self? Is it different than the individual self? What is this? I mean there's so many things that is wrong with this statement. And I love like Epic Fury is only the latest round of. And the latest episode of an ongoing international armed conflict with Iran. It's like, it's like, it's a thing now.
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B
It's like it's season five, I think it's season 25. But you know, it's. And it just, just, it frustrates me so much.
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A
Can you go down Iran's attack on the United States and others. Can you go down a little bit because. No, no, no, no. After, after. Yes. Are they mentioning 1983 in Lebanon in the Marines? Yes.
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B
Yeah. U.S. marines in Lebanon in 1983 which killed 241 U.S. service members.
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A
So you know, you know the story about this one?
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B
Yeah. This is the Beirut bombings.
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A
Yes.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Okay.
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B
Please, please tell enlightened people when you
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A
finally find your thing, you want the whole world to know about that thing. So you use a thing called Canva to make it an even bigger and better thing. Whether you want to create flyers for that thing, make presentations for that thing, or design merch for that thing. You can do anything so people can see your thing, feel your thing, love your thing. The next thing you know, it's a thing Canva, the thing that makes anything a thing. So, so 1983 there was like an attack that was sponsored by Iran of. There was like an explo. A van with explosives that went into the Marine headquarters to and killed the Marines. And basically this is like why America left Lebanon. And there's story behind this. There's a book called By Way of Deception by Victor Ostrovsky, who was an ex Mossad agent. And he talked about like how, how Israel was.
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B
So Steve's losing it.
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A
Why? Wow.
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B
He goes ex Mossad agent, deep goes another one.
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A
So. So he's an ex. And Victor soft say in his book that Israel was so upset at America because America interfered because this happened after Israel invasion of Lebanon, 1982, which by the way before anything called Hezbollah even existed. And they went in and America had like their marine station there. So Israeli said like we don't need a chaperone. And they were like very upset at the Americans. So Israel had very, very, very confirmed information about a blue Mercedes Benz van that has explosives and will go in and blow up the marines. And they deliberately gave the Americans very vague instructions, very vague thing. And then they actually one of the commanders of the Israeli commander said like they're like a big country. Let them deal with, with this itself. So they would have actually saved the 241Americans and they let it happen to them. And you can look that they look at, look, look at that up. Because you can't leave me now. Come on. Are you tired? What? You're, your fingers are cramping. Come on, man. Am I giving you too much work by way of defecation? Like Victor Ostro Trovsky, the Beirut attack or Lebanon attack, Marines attack.
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B
And so he's ex Mossad.
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A
He has ex Massad. Yeah. And he has actually speeches and like I talk about like how the Mossad works. He, he was, he defected and.
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B
Oh, he defected.
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A
By Way of Deception was a book that was published in 1991 and for the first and only time. Okay, read this because I have the allegation, the claim Ostrovsky alleged that the Mossad intercepted intelligence regarding an explosive laden truck in Beirut, but failed to pass specific or actionable warning details to the American counterparts.
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B
And then the response. The Israeli government and former intelligence officials vehemently denied these allegations, characterizing the book as an amalgamation of few facts and many fabrications.
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A
The same way that they vehemently like refused the allegation of sterilizing Ethiopia women. They never bombed the, the, the, the, the, the, the stuff in Iraq, like the synagogues in Iraq. They never, they never stole the Yemeni children. You see, like how many. At, at what point can you just like, you know, stop listening to whatever they say? Because they're like, they are lying 100% of the time.
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B
So that's the thing. Even if it's not a hundred, everyone's gonna righteously think it is.
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A
Yeah. If someone like lies to you every single time, like there's a point Was like, you know, I don't trust you.
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B
Boy cried wolf.
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A
I really don't trust you. So, yeah, Victor. So anyway, so Victor's obstre book by way of deception. There was a gag order against him by an American word. And this was the one and only time in American history was a book was prevented from having a gag order against it in 1991. And it was turned over, like in a year. So she was just like, gag order.
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B
Yeah, let's find that in America.
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A
In America gag order by way of deception. You see, I'm. I'm g. I'm making your boy work today.
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B
Steve's on it, man. Dave's the best in the biz.
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A
He is.
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B
Gag order in 19.
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A
Gag Order 1991 by way of deception. Victor Ostrovsky.
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B
Maybe they supplanted it from the Internet at this point. Maybe don't leave behind.
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A
Have you noticed like how now you. You ask like AI anything about Israel. There are claims there are unverified can see how like, like, like it's like, hey, Chat. Gbt. What the.
- [145:26]
B
Yeah, we had one I just talked about on a recent podcast about a year ago.
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A
It's still there. Yes. Bio Deception is Quite Virtual Book 1990
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B
book by former Mossad Victor and journalist Claire Hoy. The Israeli government obtained temporary Canadian gag order to. It was in Canadian. In Canada to hold its publication. However, an appeals court quickly threw out the injunction allowing the paperback to release in 1991, which became a best seller.
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A
I remember like reading it was American. Maybe I got it wrong, but either way, like.
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B
So Canada was doing what the Today.
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A
Yeah.
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B
What's going on in Canada?
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A
Yeah, they're eating. They're eating a lot of poutine, I guess. Yeah, it was Canada. North America. My bad. But again, Canada. I mean, The Canada is 5151st street
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B
so they're trying to make that at Greenland.
- [146:20]
A
Oh, yeah. Greenland will be there by, I would say, 52nd, baby.
- [146:22]
B
Yeah. Yeah. And then Puerto Rico. I don't know how that one hasn't gotten the 51st yet. I feel like they kind of deserve it.
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A
They kind of like, you know, we like you, but not that much. Yeah, like you stay. Stay over. We like Puerto. Yeah, you can.
- [146:34]
B
I love Puerto Ricans, bro. Y' all can come in.
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A
You can have just like. I don't know if we can commit to this. We're just going to take. We're just going to. We're going to suck out away your resources and give you little bit of rights.
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B
But we're going to Cuba Yeah, baby. I mean, you strapping up. You going to fight for your new country?
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A
I fight. Like, I. Maybe, maybe I should just. Just accept the fact that I'm a citizen of the empire. Yeah, you know, it's like, yeah, maybe, you know, I'm. I mean, I'm to go and spend my American money in Cuba before Israel gets it any. Before Israel gets it.
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B
I haven't heard a goddamn. I'll defend him there. I haven't heard a goddamn thing about Israel and Cuba. Is that a thing now?
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A
No, no, I'm saying, like, I'm going to use the money, you know, and spend it somewhere in Cuba before Israel gets it, because Israel gets my money anyway. Okay, all right, Sorry.
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B
I up the joke.
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A
No, I mean, oh, I thought you were like, they're coming in before this. It gets my money. But you know what? That was a good joke. I mean, it's like, hey, you should work both ways. As a matter of fact, we wouldn't pass, like, put it past Israel for some reason, like, invading Havana because they need to defend themselves.
- [147:47]
B
What?
- [147:49]
A
They need different. They need different. There's too many cigars in Havana and the smoke is hurting our lungs. Oh, my God, I'm so vague. Victimized. I'm so.
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B
Poses an existential risk.
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A
Israel.
- [148:02]
B
Have you seen all those videos of the people having a. A sleep paralysis demon. But it's Netanyahu.
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A
People around the bed like this, and
- [148:12]
B
he's like, you must defend Israel. Yeah.
- [148:15]
A
Oh, man. And I have to say, you know, like, you know. No, no, he was, like, recently diagnosed by prostitution with cancer.
- [148:25]
B
Yeah, but he was diagnosed a while ago and then got.
- [148:27]
A
Yeah, and, yeah, and. And I know, like, you know, I know that a lot of people are celebrating, but, you know, as a former doctor, you know, like, I, I find it even, even for myself, I find it very sometimes difficult to joke about disease and death because, you know, like, I, I can't just, like, help but just feel bad for the cancer because, Yeah, this guy and his process. I thought there was a little bit
- [148:54]
B
of heart here, was possibly going there, but I'm like, yo, he might actually. He might. Yeah.
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A
As a matter of fact, out of all cancers in the world like that, prostate cancer in Netanyahu's ass is the only cancer that's allowed to defend itself. It is the only cancer that has the right to exist. Like, as a matter of fact, like, you know, Netanyahu's prostate was promised to death, cancer, 3,000 years ago.
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B
Oh, this is fun.
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A
I. I think they pulverize his ass. And just like, you know, I think they went too far with radio. And just like, you know.
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B
With radio?
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A
Yeah, like radiology, like radiotherapy, you know, And. And I think if I was a doctor, I would just like, you know, just cut Netanyahu in half. Just remove his lower half. And if that's too much, it's like, well, I don't know what's a proportion responses.
- [149:50]
B
He's got singers, man. He's got singers. What did he say yesterday about Gaza? You see that? It's on. It's on definitely on Twitter. Netanyahu, 60% Gaza, 90%. Yeah, but he was saying we already have 60%.
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A
We have already. No, no, I think that it went like this. It's like, we already have 60% and we're going to take 90%. And then somebody shouted in the audience, like, we need. We want it all. It's like, yes, but we have to go. Go in order.
- [150:16]
B
Oh, my God. All right, let's hear it. In his own words. Netanyahu orders seizures. 70% of Gaza in direct defiance.
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A
I don't know if they have the guy. The guy.
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B
We are in the process where our power. Manage our power in many directions if we need to further crush Hezbollah. We are currently dealing with Hamas. We are now 60% of the Gaza Strip territory. We were at 58, and we move to 60. My direction is to reach audience 100. 100. He goes, we can start gradually. First to 70. Let's start with that. That's fucking crazy.
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A
He's like, yeah, you know, you know, the peace treaty, the peace agreement that all of the countries in the world, everything that guy said, remember, remember, remember? Remember when we agreed that we're going to take like 55% of Gaza? We're going to take 60 now. Like the world, the UN, you guys, we gotta take all of it. And then the guys are like 100. Yeah, but we.
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B
First, he's my cousin, Vinnie, and us.
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A
Yeah, everything that guy just said, hey, we. We need just to take our time killing them. It just. You need. You need to let the sauce just get on the fire and there's a good. The pasta. And then we take a time, you know.
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B
Have you ever read his article?
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A
Them What?
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B
You ever read his autobiography?
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A
His autobiography, dude, I don't want to be cursed.
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B
I think you should. I really, I genuinely. I mean this genuinely. I think you should read it. He tells you who he is?
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A
Well, he tells us every day.
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B
I know, but, like, it. This is.
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A
But can I, Can I see my life? Like, like like, kind of like a sidetrack here. Like, because I know that we all hate NH and he deserves it, but I just, I just want to make clear the problem is not Netanyahu. It's not like if Netanyahu loses tomorrow, Israel is a nice democratic country. The whole whole system is genocidal. Right? Like, the whole system, the whole system, the whole government is. And I have to say, the Israeli society, there's something wrong with this society. And I don't care if people, what
- [152:18]
B
about all the people in the streets
- [152:20]
A
who are, well, okay, very clearly against us? So there is people against it. But like, you understand that the 82% of people in Israel, you can actually pull up these statistics. They, they support what's happening in Gaza. 82%. 82%. I'm. I, yeah, you just say 82% of Israeli. Like, you'll, you'll find it. There's so many. There's. There's something. There's. There's 70, there's 80, there's 90. And because the question differs, do you, do you, do you approve of like, the ethnic cleansing? Do you approve of what the war in Gaza? And the vast majority of the Israeli society approve of that. They. If you, I'm sure that you've seen all of these. Yes. 82% of Jewish Israelis back expelling gas says, dude, dude, I am cooking. I'm even getting you the percentages. I mean, it wasn't, it was the Canadian.
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B
Can I read this too? Cuz.
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A
You got it.
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B
20 years ago, Rabbi Yad Ginsburg, the spiritual father of the Hilltop Youth, sketched out his vision for destroying Israel's democratic institutions and establishing supremacy.
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A
Your supremacy. Oh my God. Hard saying.
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B
After October 7, it seems that his vision is coming to fruition. A recent survey of Israeli Jews reveals a growing comfort with the idea of forcibly expelling Palestinians both from Gaza, from within Israel's borders. The poll also found that a significant minority supports the mass killing of civilians in enemy cities captured by the Israeli army. These disturbing trends reflect the radicalization of religious ZIONISM Since Israel's 2005 withdrawal from Gaza and the failure of secular Israeli Jews to articulate a vision. We have the article.
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A
Yeah, can, can you. Can. Did you see that? They say, they say they support. They, they support, like, forcibly expelling Palestinians both from Gaza and from within Israeli borders. So even the Arab Israelis, are they include.
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B
Is that included?
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A
Yeah, the Israeli borders, the Israeli borders. So inside Israel, there's like, there's 20% Arabs. Right? So now you have 82, what can you say about. About a community, about a society with 82% wanting to expel a whole race who, by the way, belong to. To originally belong to the land? So I'm just, like, done with, like, oh, it's Justin Inanu. Oh, no.
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B
Oh, it was never Justin.
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A
And it's not. It's. It's Netanyahu. It's the government. It's. The people who support him were basically 82%. I mean, they might go with another party, but that other party has the same exact genocidal thoughts.
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B
What's crazy is that, like, the guys after him are actually worse.
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A
Yeah. Can you imagine if 82% of white Americans said, like, we need to kill all. We need to expel all black people. People expelled, all insane. Yeah. 82%. 82%. Can you imagine? So that's eight out of 10 Israelis.
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B
And that was done by. By the way, I'm seeing this right here. That was done by Tamir Sorek for the Israeli polling form firm Geocartography Knowledge Group. So it was an Israeli group.
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A
Yeah, it's an Israeli group. It's something published in an Israeli. You never see that in American media. Yeah, because I wish I would have. Like, kind of like the New York Times. Like, 82 of Israelis want the Arabs gone. You never see that kind of article in America, but, like, you see it in Israeli media all the time, which is crazy.
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B
How do you. How do you change that? It goes back to your question, dude.
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A
It's already. I'm just like, you're putting me in the. It's like, what can he do? It's like, oh. I mean. I mean, he can't just. It's like putting me in Mars. Breathe. It's like. There's no oxygen. Yeah, I did it. Oh, my God. I did this. I should have used that from the beginning of the interview. Yes.
- [156:03]
B
It's got a different voice, it's got different settings, so every time you hit it, someone new.
- [156:07]
A
Oh, my God, that's so. I love that. Can I take that with me? I should have used this tool in, like, maybe answering half of your questions.
- [156:19]
B
That might have worked. It might have worked.
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A
Yes.
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B
So. But there. So we had this ceasefire, though, back in the fall.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it's kind of seeming like they're not following it at all.
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A
Yeah, there's nothing. I mean, every time they have a ceasefire, but they're killing people every day. Can you. Can you can actually find how many Palestinians were killed since the ceasefire? How many Palestinians, how many Lebanese killed since the ceasefire there is like thousands of Lebanese killed. Nobody talks about Lebanon. Nobody talks about Lebanon.
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B
I've been talking about Lebanon.
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A
Yeah, of course. And thank you. But what I'm saying is it's not even in the main frame of a conversation. People are talking about eras. Dude. There's, there is like, there's the culture of a country that's being annihilated, that is not inside Israel. It's not. Gaza is not there and near. Of course, they have to use some. It's blah. It's Hamas. It's something like.
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B
In Gaza, at least 904 Palestinians have been killed since October 2025 ceasefire. In Lebanon, more than 400 people have been killed by Israeli strikes following the April 2026. The recent 1 ceasefire agreement with over 3,000 total fatalities since hostilities escalated.
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A
So people are being killed every day. What ceasefire? What ceasefire? I think this is all. Is just like, for media consumption. Oh, we have a ceasefire, we have talks, we have negotiation. But on the ground, the killing never stopped, the war never stopped. So it's just like a way to just like make, okay, ah, there's ceasefire. We don't have to talk about Gaza anymore. And Meanwhile, they're taking 50%, 60%, 70% as we're speaking. Yeah.
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B
And every time that we went to make ceasefires in Iran, they would try to escalate to stop the ceasefire from happening.
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A
That.
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B
That's what really, really pissed me off. Yeah, it's like, all right, you're sending our guys in boots to Iran because you're not sending your guys there. You're bombing from the air, but you're not sending boots on the ground. You want our boots on the ground. And then every time we're trying to de. Escalate the situation, you don't want that to happen.
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A
Yeah, because they're not fighting with their own people. They're not fighting with their own money. They. We're fighting. They're fighting with that, with our money, with our troops. And, and, and if you speak about this, like, how, how dare you disrespect the troops. Troops who are fighting for Israel.
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B
No, there's all. But that's a difference. In 03, you talk to a lot of guys that went into the wars, then, like, they're just going in based on what they're told and everything. And they don't have the access to information as much. There are guys now that they're going into these wars and they're like, wait a minute. Yeah, they have social media, they, they have the Internet. They're like, why are we here? That's not good in any. Any way for long term morale of the military. And I worry about that because then, you know, you just hear some of the.
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A
And also, like, even strategically, if we consider that our biggest enemy in the world is China and there's Taiwan and everything, you have been exhausted and. And drained.
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B
Yes.
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A
Into these conflicts against Iran. I mean, Iran is like. It's like a mini Vietnam for us. Like, like the billion. Like, we spent, what, 30. How many. How much did you spend since the beginning of the war in Iran?
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B
Like, the beginning of the war was, like, right away it was 20 billion.
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A
Yeah, right away. Yeah. I think we. We. We crossed 30 or 40 million, but then billion. And then we have very expensive weapon that has been depleted, and it takes years and more money.
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B
Yes.
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A
Out of our pocket because 70% of our budget goes to the million. $7 out of every $10 that you earn go to these missiles that get. Boom.
- [159:50]
B
The US has spent an estimated 20, 29 billion on direct military operation in Iran, alongside 21.7 billion in military aid. I'm sorry, does that say 21.7 billion in military aid and arms to Israel?
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A
Yes. Oh, 15 billion. $50 billion.
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B
Wait, what?
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A
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You didn't know?
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B
I didn't know it was that high.
- [160:12]
A
Yeah, no, it's actually. Other estimates said it's 30 billion to Israel.
- [160:17]
B
What?
- [160:17]
A
Yeah, under Biden and Trump.
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B
But hold on. This is saying. For. This is what I mean, though. This is from Iran.
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A
No, no, no, no, no. That the $21 billion is. Was like, I think. Okay, October 7th.
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B
All right, so since October 7th, because it's not the beginning, is the US has spent an estimated 21 billion on direct military operations in Iran. And then it says this next part, which makes it sound like this is also since Iran started, but I hope it's not, because that would make a way worse. It's already bad.
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A
Okay, let's see. Yeah.
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B
US Milk. Okay, so it's referring to October.
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A
Thank God. It's just like. All right, it's just two years. $21 billion in two weeks. We spend it over three years, which for an arrow eye is just like a metro way. Just like a way they phased out the payment. Oh, thank God it's not. It didn't just happen last month.
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B
Jesus Christ. Do you think this situation.
- [161:15]
A
And you know what's really crazy?
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B
What's that?
- [161:17]
A
You are. You are spending all of this money to Israel, a country that has free health care, universal education, and, and, and affordable housing. And, and now you have, you have here like homelessness. You have like people are struggling to get their health care and they're basically piggybacking on our backs. And, and, and, and I have, I said this before and it's it again. The relationship between America and Israel is a parasitic relationship. And Israel reminds me with a parasite called cordyceps.
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B
Cordyceps.
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A
And a lot of people know the cordyceps. They have heard about it in this show, the Last of Us. When there's a, when there's a fungus that usually infects insects that now infect humans. And what this nature, what this fungus does, when they infect an insect, like an ant, it eats the ant from inside, right. That parasite and then it eats its brain and then the ant is dead. But now the parasite was able to control the nervous system with the ants. So now the ant is moving. It's like a zombie. This is actually what happened in the Last of Us. So now you can do cordyceps. Yeah, Cordyceps ants. And then it uses this ant in order. Order to, to, to send spores in order to reproduce. Yeah, zombie ant fungus. So basically I always say the. It's called off your cordyceps. So cordyceps. So as I said, like, we need to stop Israel so we don't turn into zombies like that show the Last of Us because Israel will not stop until they kill every single last of us. Every single last one of us. So they. This is.
- [163:01]
B
Yeah, I hope you're wrong, but there's.
- [163:04]
A
I hope I'm wrong, but right now as we're speaking, I'm right. We just saw the figures. This is, this is the amount of aid that we're giving it to a first world country with m. With nuclear weapons that are not declared.
- [163:16]
B
That's crazy. Absolutely crazy. And the fact that they don't declare those weapons either is al. That just sits so wrong with me. When they're litigating all these issues based on, on the fact that countries like Iran might get a nuclear weapon. It's like.
- [163:31]
A
No, I like it when, when they go out on the, on the interviews and say like, does Israel has nuclear weapons? Well, Israel has not wanted to. They did not attack anybody. Duh. Well, we, we are not terrorists. We are the good guys. So we are allowed to have weapons if we have it. But we're not saying that we do. But if we do, it will be justified. But doesn't mean that we have it, but do. To ask the question.
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B
I just don't understand how all these presidents have always known that and not at some point someone say something publicly.
- [164:05]
A
Like, yeah, if you say something, you know what will happen to you if you try to stand against their nuclear weapon and you go to Texas
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B
and
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A
you go to Texas for a visit, and then that will be your last visit because you dare to stand against their nuclear programming. In 19.
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B
That took a minute. Oh, man. Dude, this has been a lot of fun to talk with you. Obviously, strange times, and I know some of it, like, you get through comedically, but it is important that. That people have the conversations and if it's part of it's because they're entertained by how you put it out there. I think that's a good thing.
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A
Yeah. And I think like every day we're just like, looking at the news and we're just like, you know, seeing that what's happening and all. Say one thing. Wtf.
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B
That's from Yousef. Thank you so much having you, brother.
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A
Thank you. Thank you so much.
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B
Everybody else, you know what it is. Give it a thought. Get back to me. Peace. What's up, guys? Thanks so much for watching the video. If you have not subscribed, please hit that subscribe button before you leave. As well as leaving a like on the video. It's a huge, huge help. You can join my Patreon via the link in the description and you can also join my clipping community via the Discord link down below. See you for the next episode.