Addressing Our Drama With Mikayla Nogueira & Investigating the White Lotus Feud

Summary

Podcast Summary: Just Trish – Episode: Addressing Our Drama With Mikayla Nogueira & Investigating the White Lotus Feud

Introduction

In this episode of Just Trish, released on April 11, 2025, Trisha Paytas and her co-host Oscar Gracey delve into two major topics dominating social media: the ongoing drama involving influencer Mikayla Nogueira and the speculative feud between stars of the hit series White Lotus. The hosts provide their unfiltered perspectives, enriched with humor and candid discussions, making it a compelling listen for both regular followers and newcomers alike.

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Section 1: Investigating the White Lotus Feud

Timestamp: 19:43 – 35:01

Trisha and Oscar commence their deep dive into the alleged feud between Walton Goggins and Amylou Wood, two prominent actors from White Lotus. They explore the intricacies of their social media interactions, noting that while both actors spoke positively about each other during press tours and posed together in photos, their Instagram behaviors suggest underlying tensions.

Key Points:

• Social Media Discrepancies: The hosts observe that Goggins and Wood no longer follow each other on Instagram. Trisha points out, “They did follow each other. Now they don't follow each other. And the blocking means her comments don't appear on his post” (21:31).

• Speculative Theories: Oscar introduces the conspiracy theory that Goggins may have blocked Wood due to past interactions, although both actors continue to tag other cast members. This has fueled fan speculation about a possible off-screen conflict.

• Jason Isaacs' Insights: Adding depth to the discussion, Oscar references comments from Jason Isaacs, who mentioned in interviews that the White Lotus set was not the harmonious environment it’s often portrayed to be. Isaac noted, “They were saying in the show what happens in Thailand stays in Thailand. But there is an off-screen White Lotus as well, with fewer deaths but just as much drama” (23:42).

• Impact on Public Perception: The hosts debate how such behind-the-scenes dynamics influence fan perceptions and the overall reception of the show. Trisha muses, “You're doing worse by not saying. You're like. Because if it's something so innocent, everyone's just gonna, like, speculate” (24:16).

• Artistic Intensity: Oscar reflects on Walton Goggins' intense commitment to his roles, suggesting that his method acting might contribute to his aloofness on set. Trisha adds, “Maybe he's just very intense with his roles, you know, So I think that's his kind of his style from” (30:21).

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Paytas: “They did follow each other. Now they don't follow each other. And the blocking means her comments don't appear on his post” (21:31).

• Jason Isaacs: “They say in the show what happens in Thailand stays in Thailand. But there is an off-screen white lotus as well, with fewer deaths but just as much drama” (23:42).

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Section 2: Addressing Drama With Mikayla Nogueira

Timestamp: 75:00 – 86:01

The conversation shifts to the highly contentious interactions involving Mikayla Nogueira, a prominent influencer who has been both celebrated and criticized in the digital space. Trisha and Oscar navigate the complexities of public criticism, personal apologies, and the emotional toll of being in the influencer spotlight.

Key Points:

• Past Controversial Episodes: Trisha recounts a previous episode where she and Oscar discussed controversies surrounding Mikayla. The episode received backlash, prompting Trisha to express regret over certain remarks. She states, “But we usually talk about people that are like listers, they're not watching” (84:35), highlighting the unintended consequences of their discussions.

• Public Apologies: Both hosts acknowledge the negative reactions to their podcast's take on Mikayla. Oscar admits, “I think my delivery was just, like, so intense and insensitive” (75:32), emphasizing the importance of tone and context in public discourse.

• Emotional Impact: Trisha shares her empathy for Mikayla, recognizing the influencer’s struggles and the harshness of online criticism. “I felt really bad because I have a soft spot for her” (77:07), she explains, underscoring the personal connection and responsibility they feel towards their audience and the subjects they discuss.

• Handling Criticism: The hosts discuss strategies for managing public backlash, with Trisha advocating for compassion and understanding. “I always say that when older influencers bully her, we try to keep it cute” (85:43), she remarks, stressing the need for a balanced approach when addressing sensitive topics.

Notable Quotes:

• Oscar Gracey: “I think my delivery was just, like, so intense and insensitive” (75:32).

• Trisha Paytas: “I felt really bad because I have a soft spot for her” (77:07).

• Trisha Paytas: “It's part of the influencer world where everyone just can view you and criticize you” (86:01).

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Section 3: Personal Insights and Ongoing Projects

Timestamp: Throughout the Episode

Beyond the primary topics, Trisha and Oscar share updates on their personal lives and upcoming projects, including Trisha’s tour dates in Vegas, New York, and Boston. They discuss the challenges of balancing fame, personal relationships, and the pressures of maintaining a public persona.

Key Points:

• Tour Announcements: Trisha excitedly announces performances in Vegas and New York, hinting at special guests and unique experiences. “There is a performance, special guest coming” (02:19), she enthuses, building anticipation for fans.

• Influencer Challenges: The discussion delves into the difficulties of managing personal life amidst public scrutiny. Trisha recounts experiences with sponsorships and the complexities of authentic engagement versus promotional obligations.

• Mental Health and Support: Oscar shares personal struggles, including a back injury and the impact of public support on his well-being. “People want to make sure you're okay” (07:03), he reflects, highlighting the importance of community and support among influencers.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Paytas: “It’s not personal, it’s 'Just Trish'” (Intro Description), encapsulating the show's ethos of candid and unfiltered commentary.

• Oscar Gracey: “But I still follow her and I have a soft spot” (86:42).

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Conclusion

Just Trish continues to solidify its place in the influencer podcast landscape by tackling controversial topics with honesty and vulnerability. In this episode, Trisha and Oscar's exploration of the White Lotus set dynamics and the drama surrounding Mikayla Nogueira offers listeners an insightful look into the complexities of fame, friendship, and public perception in the digital age. Their ability to blend personal anecdotes with broader cultural discussions makes this episode both engaging and relatable.

Overall Highlights:

• In-depth analysis of potential feuds in high-profile TV shows and their impact on fan communities.
• Honest reflections on handling public criticism and the emotional labor of being an influencer.
• Updates on personal projects and the balancing act between personal life and public persona.

For those seeking a blend of pop culture commentary, personal storytelling, and unfiltered opinions, this episode of Just Trish is a must-listen.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Harry Daniels]

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[Harry Daniels]

We were trying to get our pregnancy announcement sponsored by Clear Blue. My God, they were, like, considering it, like, back and forth for so long. And because they did follow each other, now they don't follow each other.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

And the blocking means. Because her comments don't appear on his post. Yes, he really does relentlessly go after Michaela for every little thing. And that's why she's like. And anyone who makes a video about this and blah, blah, like, you know, f you, whatever her name is, she's got the. Hello, and welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. Guys, It's Viva Las Vegas Week. We're going to Vegas this week, and I can confirm we have a very special guest coming this week who's actually performing with me. We're performing a song. Usually I have guests. They come on stage. We do a little key. But there is a performance, special guest coming. So if you're in Vegas this weekend, April 12, if you're skipping Coachella, come see Trishella. We're going to be performing at the Cosmo, and I'm very excited. It's going to be a Vegas extravaganza. And then next week, we will be at the Radio City Music hall in New York. I've been practicing my Empire State of Mind, and it's pretty good. I even do the Jay Z rap, and it's pretty amazing. My billboards are in New York, so I'll be doing photo shoots around New York. I'm gonna do the hot dog Brittany pose. I got. I got a hot dog. A bling hot dog. I'm not gonna even tell Moses how much it is. There's, like, a bling hot dog at Harrods. If you know, you know. It's Judith Lieber. So if you know, you know. And I don't even like hot dogs. But it goes so well with the photo shoot, and we're doing a show there, so it's kind of like a business expense is what I think.

[Oscar]

And kind of reusable. Like, Fourth of July. You can, you Know, do like a hot dog photo shoot. Like a Jennifer Coolidge kind of vibe. Oh, God.

[Harry Daniels]

Hey. I'm like, I didn't know if we celebrated fourth of July anymore, but I.

[Oscar]

Think everyone likes hot dogs, though. Doesn't love a good dog. I think I do. I've been kind of craving a Costco hot dog, weirdly.

[Harry Daniels]

Costco food. We should do a Costco food.

[Oscar]

I do love Costco these days.

[Harry Daniels]

Their pizza is actually so good. Reasonable. I like that we're economical.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. And it will be in Boston April. New York is April 15th. Will be in Boston April 16th at the Wang Theater. Theater. Sold out. Been sold out. We still have tickets left for Vegas and New York, but it's been sold out at the Boston show. And we are doing our pro shot that day. So it's going to be really epic. We're going to have 20 cameras filming. It's going to be the eras tour. We're releasing in theaters this year in 3D.

[Oscar]

3D. IMAX.

[Moses]

Oh, nice.

[Harry Daniels]

Honestly, I don't really know what we're doing with it. My agent's like, should we record it? And I was like, yeah. So I don't know what we're doing with it. Maybe you'll see it, maybe you won't. But get your tickets. We have new costumes, limited edition merch at each show, new songs at each show. Special guest confirmed for Vegas. Still working on a New York one. Gonna be a Vibe. It's gonna be a Vibe. So that and also patreon. Patreon.com. trish, we love you over there. We are going. Are we doing our trendy foods today?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

I'm so excited. I was talking about Minecraft yesterday. I'm not. Love it. I talk about Minecraft to everyone I could. I'm so. I better still have these Minecraft adult meals if they don't have it because they sell out quickly. These adult. So if they don't have it, I'm gonna be so disappointed.

[Oscar]

Minecraft is a phenomenon right now. And I think they have a special Minecraft sauce or something, right?

[Harry Daniels]

I'll try it. I'll eat it all. I don't care. I don't even like sauces. And I'll eat it all. We're gonna try the Kardashian crumble. Was there one other thing we were supposed to try?

[Oscar]

I feel like there was another Kardashian thing.

[Harry Daniels]

No, there was a third. Do you remember? There was a third and I can't remember.

[Oscar]

We're gonna have to roll the tapes.

[Harry Daniels]

Roll the tapes back. Jimmy let us know. Shout out Jimmy. But anyways, patreon.com gestures and shout out Jimmy, who actually probably could teach us Minecraft. We were talking about Cali Lear, but he seems to be well versed in Minecraft.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you said he does like Minecraft.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, he does?

[Oscar]

Yeah. He was texting me about it.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, wow.

[Oscar]

He made an edit of you. He was like, I just spent two hours making this. And I was like, jimmy, you were insane. But it was so worth it.

[Harry Daniels]

I didn't even know what it meant. I just thought it was cute. And everyone loved it. Everyone getting for it. They're like, this is amazing. And I'm like, okay. It's literally so good. This is the one. Britney Spears one too.

[Oscar]

I know our audio listeners are really missing out on the Jimmy edit. So if you are an audio listener, also check out the video while you're at it.

[Harry Daniels]

Two hours.

[Oscar]

He spent two hours making this little green screen Minecraft edit of Trisha. And it was. It was everything. It really was.

[Harry Daniels]

Give yourself a bonus in the invoice this month because that was so good. And I was like. I saw it on Twitter and I saw it was getting traction. I'm like, oh, my God, send me. Then I saw it on his. I was reposting his and I just. I was gagged for it. I don't really know what it meant. Yeah, and I love that he did that. So maybe we should do a Minecraft game with Jimmy next week. Well, I won't be here next week, but the week after.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Love you, Jimmy. He's just so sweet. He's just such a. He always, like, sends me stuff too, like little jokes. There was a joke in the last episode that no one caught. I said something about Justin Bieber.

[Oscar]

Yes. He said that to me too. He's like, you fully missed this. And I was like, how did I.

[Harry Daniels]

Miss you missed this? I mean, it's so. We talk so much and it's so funny, but he's like, just so you know, I thought this part was funny. I was like, thanks, Jimmy. We love him. Jimmy Wetzel. Check him out everywhere. He really is so, so good. Like, please never, ever quit, because he's amazing. I was just thinking about that. I'm like, if we didn't have him, I'm like, what would we do?

[Oscar]

We didn't know what we would do.

[Harry Daniels]

We don't know editors and have to find someone. And it just sounds. It sounds crazy. But. Yeah. How are you? You look cute. We're in our Cozy era. We're in our black sweatpants era today.

[Oscar]

Yeah, we are.

[Harry Daniels]

Huh. What's your shirt? What's your dad.

[Oscar]

Oh, it's. It was in the. The Ian Charms pr. Honestly, it's nice getting a little PR here and there. I'm very. Am I a Remy Jo Bader? I guess whatever. Whatever they send me, I'll wear.

[Harry Daniels]

You know, she does. Does Remy Joe's wear everything?

[Oscar]

Isn't that what you said you would like? These are just the clothes that they sent me. You guys. When she was wearing. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. When she lost all the weight, people were like, wow, you only wear designer now. This is just what sense me.

[Oscar]

Very me. That's very Oscar energy these days.

[Harry Daniels]

They should pay you. As our second Ian Charms mention. I hope you're getting paid for that.

[Oscar]

Well, I mean, you did ask. I guess I could just say I don't know.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, that's true, that's true, that's true. Yeah. I love it though. I looked like LA or something else. I was like, oh, what is that? You look cool in the denim jacket. How you feeling? Everyone wants an update. Everyone's like, Oscar's going through so much and yet he shows up. And it's so true. And they all want to make sure you're okay. People say I don't ask enough. I need to keep asking.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it really tickles me every time.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay, well, I want to make sure I'm okay.

[Oscar]

I really am. Every. It was very nice. Everyone's comments and stuff is very sweet because I don't know, I. Maybe I'm just true chronically online, but I am always afraid, like, if I get vulnerable about, like, you know, it's my dog. I was like, oh, my God, there's going to be people. Like, there's people dying. The terrorists, girl. You know, I thought in comparison, you know, it is small, I guess, but, you know, it is still. People were very validating and like, you know, losing a pet is. It is big. It is traumatic. So.

[Harry Daniels]

People care more about dogs, I think, than humans, really.

[Oscar]

Honestly, I think you're right.

[Harry Daniels]

They're more sad if, like something happens to a pet.

[Oscar]

That is true. Problematic but true.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, happens.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

But yeah, I'm doing better. Honestly. It was healing, actually talking about it because I. I was like internalizing it a lot, trying to get through. But I think talking about it was very nice. So, yeah, I really appreciate it, everybody.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, your back's better. Getting better, maybe on the healing journey, I think.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Part of the process, part of the healing journey process. Okay, well, I'm glad. And your sneakers. Everything about you looks very cute today. And I got rest, so I think I feel good today, too. We have a special guest later today in the episode. Harry Daniels is coming by.

[Oscar]

Yes. Our favorite. Honestly, a member of the team at this point.

[Harry Daniels]

Honorary. Yeah. Really? He really tries to get us the guests and Never happens. But we love the.

[Oscar]

We love someone on the front lines, you know, trying. At least that's all you can do.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, yeah. He's always supportive every time in New York. He's always trying to come to the show, the Broadway show. We didn't really have any, like, control over. I don't know if he came. Did he end up coming? I don't know. We didn't have any control over those tickets. But this one, hopefully he'll want to come to Radio City. That'd be fun. He's a New York icon, a staple, and he's here in LA today. And Moses with. Is that an Amazon shirt over there?

[Moses]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Love it.

[Harry Daniels]

You should put a little Amazon link Hyperlink storefront.

[Oscar]

What is it like? Like to it or something?

[Moses]

I love it just for actually. It's a really great shirt from all of them. It's actually fits and soft.

[Harry Daniels]

It's beautiful. And so are you.

[Moses]

What is that they're wearing over there?

[Harry Daniels]

This is our little Axolotl. We got him. He's originally. This is so crazy. Build a bear. $44 for the stuffed animal, $10 for the hoodie. They resold it on Poshmark for $300.

[Oscar]

Damn.

[Harry Daniels]

Knew it. Tank, though, honestly.

[Oscar]

And it was very, very, very limited edition. It is a collector's piece, I will say.

[Harry Daniels]

I was gagged even before it went viral. And I saw it and I looked right away to see if it was real. I was so gagged and it was sold out so quickly, and I was just like, I need to. Need to have this. And then when I saw that this was in a plastic and someone actually had it in their hands, it made me really excited. It is pretty cute. This is the little. It's like a little sea creature. Axolotl.

[Oscar]

Axolotl.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. He lives in the ocean.

[Oscar]

Lake, but a lake.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Harry Daniels]

And they're real or. No, they are real. Okay.

[Moses]

They look unreal when you see them. You feel like you've seen it. How is this real?

[Harry Daniels]

You seen an Axolotl?

[Moses]

Yeah. So many of them.

[Harry Daniels]

In the lake or what?

[Moses]

No, in video.

[Harry Daniels]

Video. In video?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Like on TikTok.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, wow. They're not legal. Here, but they're legal other places.

[Oscar]

Yeah, they are not legal in here in like two or three other states, I think because in California is. Because they could be an invasive species if they breed with another salamander or something. But they are native to Mexico. But they are going extinct in Mexico, weirdly. So they're really only found in captivity or bred as pets.

[Trisha Paytas]

So.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Yeah, a little fun. Animal fact.

[Harry Daniels]

So we're saving the animals if you buy an axolotl.

[Oscar]

Honestly. Yeah, kind of. Because they are pretty much instinct. Almost extinct. They only live in one lake in Mexico, but they are going extinct there. Where?

[Harry Daniels]

Mexico.

[Oscar]

I forget where this is, so.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. Gotta go find it.

[Oscar]

I don't know if this is a hot topic.

[Harry Daniels]

The axolotls in Minecraft build a bear. It's true. Oscar's fave.

[Oscar]

Because they are only native to this one lake in Mexico. But because the. The government introduced like, a lot of different. Different fish into this lake so the people could fish and eat those fish. For those fish, those fish are eating the axolotls and taking away their food. So they became endangered and almost extinct in Mexico. So really they're only found in captivity.

[Harry Daniels]

So in this case, captivity is good.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because if they weren't bred as, like a hobby for like a pet, they would probably be, like, extinct, so. Or close to extinction.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, my God. Isn't it sad that animals go extinct? That's so crazy.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Harry Daniels]

Just could be wiped out one day. They're so cute too.

[Oscar]

They are very cute.

[Harry Daniels]

I know Malibu really wanted this. I had to hide it until the show. I'll give it to her after. But I was like, she keeps looking. She keeps looking for it. She's like, where's the little dinosaur? And I was like, h. I know.

[Moses]

The lake is called Lake. It starts with so I don't know how you read it, but Soimi Loco.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. And it's even on the. Their money.

[Harry Daniels]

The axolotl.

[Oscar]

The axolotl. Yeah. Because it's such an important part of their own culture. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow. I had no idea. That and our Dr. Simi doll, which you can't see, but he's also part. Okay, we love that. Yeah, we love it. Do you notice our organized hallway?

[Oscar]

That was the first thing I noticed you guys, as soon as I opened the door. Damn. Not a box. Not a box to be seen. That was crazy.

[Harry Daniels]

I give a lot of credit to my mom. Moses obviously helped too. But, like, my mom came over after the podcast. We were still out to lunch. We came back, my mom, when she hustled, she's, like, pushing boxes everywhere. She's in the garage. It's. She's just. She's so intense with it, and she really did do a lot of it. I was trying to, like, organize where stuff needs to go, but she was. She was pushing boxes around, tearing them down. She was. She's a little beast when it comes to that kind of stuff. She loves organized. She know, like, every time she comes to our house, she's always just like, I can do it. I can help Moses clean up thing. Like, she really just always wants to, like, organize and clean. I don't know where. I did not get that, but she loves that.

[Oscar]

He certainly didn't.

[Harry Daniels]

I know, but Cali.

[Oscar]

Cali's pretty organized, though, right?

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, they're super clean. Super organized. They've always, like, cleaned after themselves. They're really good at, like, cleaning floors and toilets, like, all that stuff. I just, like, never. I didn't even know. I think I told the story before. I didn't know how, like, you were supposed to clean toilets until I got my first apartment, and I never cleaned the toilet. And I started getting that ring around it, and someone's like, you need to clean this. I was like, why? Like, I didn't know. I thought they clean themselves because of the water. I was like, who cleaned? Not to sound like. But, like, my mom was like, literally, like, oh, I cleaned the toilets. And I was just like, oh, my gosh. That's so crazy, because I was like, who clean? I didn't know you were supposed to. I had no idea. You're supposed to clean. I did try to learn how to clean. I'm not great at it. It's not to say, like, I'm lazy, but I'm not good. I'm good at cleaning dishes, but I'm not good at cleaning toilets. So my mom does help. She's always comes over and helps to. Moses is good at cleaning. I'm not so much. But you're gonna clean.

[Oscar]

I'm pretty good. Certain things. The bathroom. Not really, but the rings around.

[Harry Daniels]

You have to get special soaps and stuff for that.

[Oscar]

I mean, they. It's not that difficult. I mean, there's just, like. They sell little kits, and then it comes, like, on a little wand. You just kind of scrub. It's pretty. Pretty quick.

[Harry Daniels]

But, yeah, Malibu loves cleaning, too. She'll be cleaning all day. Like, she wants to clean everything. The floors, and I just never really got that gene, but I try. You're good at cleaning. I can't like, he doesn't do dishes, but I can do everything else. But such as floors are hard. Like, everything's hard anyways. But people love to clean.

[Oscar]

I like to vacuum, actually. Fun. Fun fact about.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow.

[Oscar]

A lake in Mexico. And love to vacuum. But it is true. I do vacuum pretty, like, five times a day. I think it's fun.

[Harry Daniels]

But I. Five times a day?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I would just take that vacuum out and just go around because the cats and like, there's cat hair everywhere, so it drives me crazy. So I'm always vacuuming.

[Harry Daniels]

But I love a Swiffer.

[Oscar]

You do love a Swiffer.

[Harry Daniels]

Actually do it in a routine video or something.

[Oscar]

Yes, you did.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, I love it. Especially the ones that shoot out liquid. I do love a Swiffer. Sorry. And I feel like it's, like, relatable, though, to not like to clean or. Man, now I'm thinking now people are gonna be like, okay, Trisha. Yeah. But just for the record, I've always been like this. I've always. Even when I was a stripper, five dollar blow. I seriously still didn't know how to clean. And then someone told me I was supposed to clean. I was like, holy. And you know what? Shout out my mom for always cleaning for us. But also shout out, I should have probably learned to clean, you know, to, like, take care of my apartment. But I do laundry. I'm good. I can do that kind of stuff. You know, there's a throw up. I'm cleaning it. You know what I mean? I can do a lot of that stuff, I think. Trash. No. Anyways, what chores do you like to do?

[Moses]

Let us know we're back to the Newlyweds episode.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, my God. Was there a question about chores? Oh, yeah, and you got it wrong. The chores question.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because of course it's taking out the trash. What was it?

[Harry Daniels]

What was it, though? What did I say?

[Oscar]

You put changing diapers.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, right. Like, what chore does your partner hate the most? Which, yeah, I'd rather take out.

[Moses]

No, but it's in the moment. Like, in a year or two, there's gonna be no more diapers, you know, so in our entire life, trash is like the thing. Even when I didn't live with you, I would come to your house to take the trash out.

[Harry Daniels]

Right, right, right. That's true. That's true.

[Moses]

I was thinking the big picture. You were being in the moment.

[Harry Daniels]

Now I feel like I'm gonna get hate for that. I was gonna like to get kids diapers. I. I know. What do you mean I don't, like, love it? Someone else gave me a little shame for that the other day in real life. They were like, oh, that's not very, like, maternal of you. I was like, just because I don't like to do it doesn't mean I don't do it. Who likes to. Oh, I love changing up. Like, no one loves it. I don't know. Anyways, this whole segment gets me canceled.

[Oscar]

I relate to that. I mean, with, like, cats or dogs. Like, no one likes to clean up after it. Like, I'll do it if no one else is around.

[Harry Daniels]

But it's period.

[Oscar]

I. It makes me a little queasy doing it. It makes me uncomfortable.

[Harry Daniels]

But, yeah, also it's.

[Moses]

It's one of the things I noticed, like, as a parent, there's so much that comes down to coordination, like having really good coordination. So Trisha used to change a lot of the diapers when they were little. But, like, sometimes they just. They think it's a game and they try to, like, oh, my God, they just wiggle their way out of you changing their diaper, and you can close it. So it takes a lot of, like, coordination right now. And that's.

[Harry Daniels]

I get frustrated. I'm just like, help.

[Moses]

It's. No, it is, like, sometimes you have to take them even off the table and try to somehow put the diaper on.

[Harry Daniels]

So they both love to squirm now, huh?

[Moses]

Yeah, no, they're like. They think it's a game and they're rolling around and so. But used to change a lot when she was younger.

[Harry Daniels]

Thanks, babe.

[Moses]

But now you're picking it back up because, I mean, Malboy is potty trained, so now, you know, you go to the bathroom with her and do the whole thing.

[Harry Daniels]

We love it.

[Moses]

There's so many listeners that have kids. They do relate.

[Harry Daniels]

Wait, can I just say one more thing about that? For the kids, it's something that no one ever talks about for parenting and potty training is like, when you take them to public restrooms when they have to go to the public restroom. Like, they don't have, obviously, because you don't have the little seats for them. And it's really. They have to, like, hang on to you. Like, I feel like no one ever talks about this.

[Oscar]

I've never even thought about it before.

[Harry Daniels]

Right. Because I was, like, thinking about when I was a kid, but they literally, like, you kind of have to, like, hold them up. Like, obviously you can put the seats down. My dad used to have me squat on the seat, and I was doing. But now you can put the seat covers down and they kind of like had to hold on to you because otherwise they'll fall in. And then the big loud flush. Sometimes it's automatic. Like they don't have the thing. So the first time I took Malibu, I just remember her, like, screaming, Being so scared of that big, loud flush. My sister in law told me, here's a little hack. Put a little band aid over that sensor. So that way they don't like, cause them to be, like, scared or anything like that, because those are scary for adults and kids. And I'm like, God, no one really talks about that. Which I guess is like a weird thing to talk about. But, like, I feel like it should talk about more parenting because I'm like, how do the kids go to the bathroom? You know what I mean? But anyways, is that okay?

[Oscar]

Welcome to our parent. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Harry Daniels]

I always think it's like so innocent that someone always has to make it weird, but there it is. All right, Hot Topics. We're here. We're here. Do you have anything to say? Nothing.

[Moses]

I have more to say about that, but I don't have to.

[Harry Daniels]

Your face was so, like. I don't know. I don't know if it was like, cut some things or if you had more to say. You were.

[Moses]

Oh, no, in my mind, I thought you were saying we're here and we're queer or something like that. I was just. I was just like. I was just like. I was just like. Sometimes I think about what you're gonna say next.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, that's a crazy thing to say. Think about what you're gonna say next. What's this little guy? Oh, he's from the Rock and Roll hall fame.

[Moses]

He's cute. Yeah, it's pretty punk rock over there. Today.

[Harry Daniels]

We're a punk rock kind of podcast. Punk rock.

[Oscar]

Can I tell you about the Hot Topic I'm kind of obsessed with right now, though?

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, please.

[Oscar]

I'm obsessed with the conspiracy theory about White Lotus fans thinking Amy Lou Wood and Walton Goggins are feuding. Have you dug into them?

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, we got into this and not love it yesterday, but it won't air till, like May.

[Oscar]

So very on brand for.

[Harry Daniels]

We were so obsessed with White Lotus yesterday, and we were talking about this because of the Walton Goggins post and all stuff. And I got really into it because I was like, how do people know they got blocked? Like, how do they know? So let's hear the theory, because I did get into this. And I'm weirdly parasocial with. I guess a lot of people are. I guess it's not just me. I know. I think everyone.

[Oscar]

It. I feel like on set, dynamics between cast members is always kind of a thing. Right? Like, it is interesting. Like the. Don't worry, darling. Harry Styles, Olivia Wilde, Florence Pugh. Obviously, it ends with us with Blake and Justin and now White Lotus with, like, thoughts about the cast members feuding. And at first I. When I read about this conspiracy theory, I was like, oh, that's a little ridiculous. But then people are really convincing because they pull up a lot of stuff, and I'm like, damn, maybe y'all are right. So the whole conspiracy theory is that Amy Lou. Amy Lou Wood, who plays Chelsea, and Walton Goggins, who plays Rick, have this weird kind of feud going on. Even though they both speak positively about each other during the press tour and they pose together, fans have noticed that they weren't following each other on Instagram. And people have also speculated that Walton might have blocked amylou Wood because her previous comments are gone from his profile, but his comments still appear on her posts.

[Harry Daniels]

That's what I was trying to figure out. How do people. Why do people think he blocked her? Cause I was like, why don't they just unfollow each other or something? Because they did follow each other. Now they don't follow each other. And the blocking means. Cause her comments don't appear on his posts.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Harry Daniels]

They're so good. The Internet is so good.

[Oscar]

And people were saying, well, maybe it's because she deactivated her account for a little bit pre. Like, the White Lotus coming out. So maybe it was like the glitch, kind of like the Haley Bieber not following Justin Bieber thing. But it is still kind of weird because it's been a while, so. And they, like, are posting photos of each other, so why wouldn't you have fixed the follow? And also, she's following his glasses account, but she's.

[Harry Daniels]

The Walton Goggins goggles. They haven't come in. I was hoping they'd be in for today.

[Oscar]

So it was quite odd because after the finale, Walton posted a lot of photos about her.

[Harry Daniels]

Like, 18 photos.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Harry Daniels]

And it's like, behind the scenes. So it's not even just like, their characters. It's like, no, this is. This is Walton and Amy filming in Thailand behind the scenes, hugging each other. Yes.

[Oscar]

And they tag and they tag the other cast members whenever they post behind the scenes, but they don't tag each other. And they Both posted like photo dumps after the finale. And they both use the same Fleetwood Mac song, Silver Springs.

[Harry Daniels]

And what does that mean? Because I saw a lot of people say that. Is that like a Roman song? What does that mean?

[Oscar]

I think people are. Because basically the big. The speculation is. I don't know if there's literally any kind of truth to this at all, but this conspiracy is that they had some kind of affair or something and that this could be like a connection that they had with this song.

[Harry Daniels]

That's. That's crazy, though. But, like, if you had the affair and then now you regret it and block it, why would you use the song?

[Oscar]

I know. Exactly. So it is. That's kind of weird.

[Harry Daniels]

A little crazy theory.

[Oscar]

But all this was kind of picked up because Jason Isaacs, who plays Tim.

[Harry Daniels]

Nutliff, he's always the problematic scene of the crime. What is he? Is he in his 60s? And he is just drama.

[Trisha Paytas]

Messy.

[Harry Daniels]

Messy. He was talking about how there was drama on set. I was like, can we just like, relax?

[Oscar]

Yes. Jason Isaacs, because he did an interview with Vulture and he said some people got very close. They were friendships that were made and friendships that were lost.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

They say in the show what happens in Thailand stays in Thailand. But there is an off screen white lotus as well, with fewer deaths but just as much drama.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, my God. Okay.

[Oscar]

He said, I became very close to some people and feel less close to others, but we still all had that experience together and there's a certain level of discretion required.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Harry Daniels]

T channel. He is.

[Oscar]

And then he did another interview after that with the New York Times where they did like a follow up about the drama. And he said, obviously people form friendships, but we weren't one great big homogeneous, happy family. It was a large group of people away from. From home, unanchored from their normal lives. I'm not going to break ranks and say who did what to whom, but it certainly wasn't a holiday. So what?

[Harry Daniels]

You're doing worse by not saying. You're like. Because if it's something so innocent, everyone's just gonna, like, speculate.

[Oscar]

Like what? Because it. It really could be just like maybe some people weren't getting along because Walton Goggins isn't following Amy Lewood, like I said. But he's also not following Jason Isaacs or Parker Posey. So maybe it's something between, you know, Walton and those two. I don't know. Amy is just not following Walton Goggins.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, that's only one.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

So.

[Harry Daniels]

And he Wasn't at the White Lotus down the street.

[Oscar]

And he wasn't at the finale event. And neither was Michelle Monahan, who plays Jackie.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, what does that mean? Where she die into this?

[Oscar]

So people think maybe there's drama there too. I don't know. But his defense. Walton said that he was very much like to himself in Thailand. I think he opened up about, like, after his wife unalived herself in early, like 2002, that he had a similar journey of going to Thailand and feeling lost. So maybe that also has something to do with it. Like maybe wasn't part of the cast or whatever. So maybe. And also his character is kind of like an alone wolf, so maybe he didn't want to get too.

[Harry Daniels]

That's what I would think. Like, I don't know if you're like method acting and that kind of stuff, maybe you don't want to, like, bond with the other cast members. He also just seems like someone to himself. He's also like, I don't know the other ones if they're married or not. But, like, I just know he's like, been married for a long time to his wife now. So maybe he's just like, I don't know to him. I wonder if his family. I wonder if their families come. I always think about that because the guy who is the cute one in season two, not the like, really hot one that everyone thinks, but the other one, the one that Theo James.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

He like brought his wife and like he had like a six month old at the time and brought them over. So I always wonder if they like bring over their families or they just like leave them.

[Oscar]

I think so because Amylou Wood was talking about bringing her friend out, but she was like, we don't really go out because we burn too easy. So. Yeah, she said we only would go to the beach, like towards sunset.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh.

[Oscar]

So I think they did bring, like, friends and stuff.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. Their stories, because it always seem okay. So they would. Yeah. So you always wonder if they could bring. Because if I brought my family, I'd probably isolated you. But then I guess, like part of it. I don't know. I've never been on a set. But you probably want to bond with people on the side that works. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Especially it's so long. Eight months. Like, that is crazy.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. You have time to bond in. Have your family. I suppose.

[Oscar]

Sam, who plays Lachlan, said even that that one episode where they were on the boat before, like the big full moon party or whatever, he said that episode took a whole month to film. A month? Filming that episode on the boat.

[Harry Daniels]

How?

[Oscar]

I don't know. So if you're, like, on the boat, stuck with people for, like, a month, like, full workday stuck on a boat, a month.

[Harry Daniels]

The Titanic. All the Titanic sinking took a week. So I was like, how did that take a month? And that was people sliding down, going in the freezing cold water on the boat. Like, I don't.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I know, because they were just kind of hanging out on the. On the boat. Right. But I'm really curious about the working dynamic of this. I mean, it works. It's such a good show.

[Harry Daniels]

But I have a feeling, like, Mike White just wants to, like, hang out.

[Oscar]

Really take our time. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Because, like, what do you mean that takes a month? That's so crazy.

[Oscar]

I'm so fascinated, though, by, like, the behind the scenes of it, because also, I'm like, White is kind of being very open about, like, feuding with the composer.

[Harry Daniels]

Was he on Howard Stern?

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Harry Daniels]

I kind of hate that people go on Howard Stern anymore. Like, is he. I'm sorry. When you talk about problematics, it's like, I guess. I guess, whatever. I guess I should have forgiveness. You know what? I'm learning that you're right. If I hold people to their past, I need to be. But. But the difference is Howard Stern is Never apologized for calling women fat. You know what I mean? Like, I think he needs to have, like, accountability before he dies. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's not fair that people can just go on. I get it. He's big and whatever, like that. And I love that he's like, okay, liberal now. We love it. Feminist, great. But, like, acknowledge that you were a person for so many years, including my formative years where I thought, like, I had to write a sibyen to get a man's attention.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what?

[Harry Daniels]

I. I had to be so skinny and perfect. If I didn't have fake boobs, Howard Stern wouldn't like me. So I feel like he has to apologize to a big generation of millennials out there. But Mike White was on there talking about the composer of. Which is crazy. Did you hear what it was supposed to be and what Mike White said no to?

[Oscar]

No, I didn't hear what the. Oh, wow.

[Harry Daniels]

I think it's real. You know me. I can honestly. Yeah, you do be falling for a lot of things, but it sounded good. Like, it sounded like more like the original ones, but a little bit different. It sounded. Oh, man, I wish. I wish I could Find it. I should have sent it you. But it sounded, like, really good. And he, like, this is the one that Mike White, like, said no to.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Harry Daniels]

And so they just, like. Because it had more of that. That weird sound in it. Yeah. Because he said he was just mad that he, like. Which I kind of agree with Mike White. If you wait until, like, the finale is about to air and then you, like, try and drop some, like, lore that makes someone look bad. I think that is a little. It was almost like. It's like the timing of things, Right. It's like Eden Slater's wife, like, granted, she could tell her story and obviously, like, he wasn't do what he did. But it is like, you know, when the wicked hype is happening, to drop the expose. I get it. I mean, yeah. I mean, if you're hurt. But waiting for that is, like, kind of crazy. But let's wait until it comes out and it's like a big movie and then talk about it. I don't know.

[Oscar]

I don't. I think for the White Lotus in particular, it was a little bit more. I think the intention was a little bit more devious because I think he, the composer did have, like, an agenda against Mike White and wanted to make him look bad. You know, Ethan Slater's White X. I. I don't. I feel like maybe he was just. It was just everywhere, so it's hard to see, like, it was so in her face. But I think with the composer, he definitely had it out. Yes. Because you can. They were just having such created differences in the way they talked about each other, you can tell that he was, like, annoyed with Mike White, so.

[Harry Daniels]

But Mike White's like, I just gave some notes, which I also kind of understand that side. There's been times where people. I'm like, really nice. And then the minute you turn, like, a little bit, like. Like a little aggressive towards someone or you, like, really want to make your point across, they're like, damn, okay. Like, yeah, I'm in a bad mood today. It's just like, all I said was I didn't want this. You know what I mean? And it can, like, come across, so I can understand that, too. We have to see the emails. I think the emails.

[Oscar]

True.

[Harry Daniels]

So let's see what you actually wrote.

[Oscar]

It's like, his to me. I'm like, well, it is his show. It is his concept. So, like, wouldn't you. Yeah. To, like, you know, collab, collaborate. But sometimes creative people get so, like, like, possessive of what they do.

[Moses]

That's their Art. That's their craft. And they don't want to inject, especially.

[Harry Daniels]

When it's like, your show that you created.

[Oscar]

But I think for season three, the score was really good. Like, especially throughout the finale, like, it. Whatever changes they made, it was, like, so. There was so much tension, and it was so good.

[Harry Daniels]

So we said that from the beginning. And the music was, like, always, like, the best part. When it was, like, slow at the beginning. Like, the music was such a good part.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Maybe they'll get back together. Maybe there's, like, a little PR move.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because they obviously work well. The end result is good. Despite the process being.

[Harry Daniels]

The theme songs go viral. Like, the first two theme songs every year on Tick Tock would go viral. Like, people were like, it's in our head. We love it. So, yeah. I'm surprised my White didn't interview, because he doesn't. Right. He doesn't do press.

[Oscar]

I think he's kind of specific about what he does because he's done, like, a couple random podcasts and stuff, too. Oh, really? Yeah. And they. Even with, like, the White Lotus, like, the show in general, they do very, like, specific, random press.

[Harry Daniels]

Like, so random.

[Oscar]

Yeah, like, very. A lot of prints. Like the Hollywood Reporter and even though. Yeah, so. But even the Hollywood Reporter, like, that photo shoot. Walton Goggins and Jason Isaacs were in separate, like, groups of the COVID So I was like, oh, I think Jason.

[Harry Daniels]

Isaacs is the problem. He seems problematic and everything. I think Walton's to himself. This is just literally me. I have no idea. It's just random. I feel like he's. He's to himself. He has a wife. He has, like, he. Like you said he had a. He had a first wife that, like, on a live or something. He went to Thailand, so he's, like, going through a lot there. His character. He has to mentally be in that space. The photo dump was odd. It is a weird one to do, like, if you're not following each other and you're in a weird place. Whether you're in a weird place or a good place, I think the photo dump is odd either way because, like, you are married. I get, like, having an homage to your character. But his was, like, a long. It's like something I'd write to Moses on Valentine's Day. Like, oh, my God, this is the true, true love story. Together forever. Like, just like. I was like, okay. Like, damn.

[Oscar]

You know, to his defense, so. And I just learned this because his fans were giving, like, the background. Like, he does that, I guess. With every project. Yes. Because I. He did like, I think an Architectural Digest or whatever. You know, the house tour thing.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay.

[Oscar]

And he even like, his. The. His last co star. He even had. And it was a guy. It was. He just got so attached to him and wrote about him as if he was, like, in love with them just because he was so passionate and even had like, a frame photo of them, like in his. His family, like, gallery wall. So I think he's just very intense with his roles, you know, So I think that's his kind of his style from. But obviously because it's a young girl who is like, plays as love interest. I sure. People.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

That'd be crazy if you hung that in his house. Be like, this is. This is me and you know what I mean? Even like, yeah, like, at least she.

[Moses]

Has Mikos play them, you know, like, we have all those pictures, but I'm playing all those.

[Harry Daniels]

Could you imagine? I just like, hang up me and Bo and Yang in the front. Front, like, foyer. Just from snl. Be like, here we are. And I was, like, so in love with him. You know what I mean? That'd be, like, weird. I don't know. It's like, weird. I did write a little love letter, I guess, to him, but I tried to keep it cute, like, you know what I mean? Because you just. I don't know. It's a little. Okay. But I like, if that's his thing, that's his thing. He's an artist. I guess he just felt the passion. They were cute together. Not gonna lie.

[Oscar]

And people were also speculating that it was odd that his wife was with him at the Righteous Gemstones premiere. But he was. She was not with him at the.

[Harry Daniels]

White Lotus premiere, which is a big one. Yeah, I'm going to that White Lotus premiere.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And then obviously he missed the big finale event, so there are some odd things. I. I feel like the conspiracy theory is probably more interesting than what actually, you know, but.

[Harry Daniels]

Although I don't know, because I think.

[Oscar]

Jason Isaacs is really messy.

[Harry Daniels]

We need him on the podcast. Why are you so messy, sir? What's going on in your life? Like, I need to know because just.

[Oscar]

Giving this of, like your own. All this information and, like, drama of your own free will is so wild. But maybe it's because he's British. Is he just, like, you know, blunts?

[Harry Daniels]

I guess.

[Oscar]

Are they just really blunt?

[Harry Daniels]

I guess it is crazy. He was British. That is wild. Like, what a weird casting for that role.

[Oscar]

Well, I guess even Amy Lou, but.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, yeah, she was, but she was British on the show, right? Yeah. Because the girls never talk. Like, Leslie Bim never gives an interview or anything like that. Right. We never hear from Carrie Coon.

[Oscar]

Carrie Coon did interviews, but nothing ever, like, like, yeah. To like that implied there was all this kind of drama or anything either.

[Harry Daniels]

So funny. The last person you would think that would talk about the drama on there on a set.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Harry Daniels]

Because NDAs.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It's so odd. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, it's. It's funny how I think the White Lotus also just so big now too, that everyone's like really, like, obsessed in.

[Harry Daniels]

It with the background of it all.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I wonder how long it'll last. There really is nothing else going on in the.

[Harry Daniels]

In it goes so quick. Like everything in the news circuit. It is funny how, like, quickly we forget. Like, you become obsessed, then we forget, and then something else like you or something will come along.

[Oscar]

You is really on the horizon.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Which, like, it doesn't even seem like it could compare at this point. I'm like, oh, my God, no, it's not gonna even be a White Lotus. But you is pretty big. So I feel like that like Bridgerton.

[Moses]

You know, like, you're so in it when it happens. So now I never think about it until.

[Harry Daniels]

You're so right. We were so obsessed with Bridget. I do think about Bridgerton on the Daily, though. I think about it quite often, but. But yeah, when it came out, it was so big.

[Oscar]

And Megan Fahey, who is from season two, she has a movie coming out, so I hope, like, people remember and, like, want to go see it. Airdrop.

[Harry Daniels]

My makeup artist was at the premiere last night.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God, no.

[Harry Daniels]

Chinese theater. Did you get invited?

[Oscar]

No, I don't. They haven't checked my business email, so maybe.

[Harry Daniels]

But he said he was there and I looked up the cast because he was telling me and someone gets airdropped. Something dubious.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Harry Daniels]

Suspense and tales. And I looked it up and I was like, oh, it's good.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I love Megan Dayhes.

[Harry Daniels]

I love her. But, like, the movie concept is crazy.

[Oscar]

I love it. It's kind of like a camp concept, but the reviews about it are really good. Yeah, it's kind of like. It's horror ish. Like scream camp. Like, camp how? In the way that Scream was so. Or like, I know what you did last summer. It gives me kind of that vibe.

[Harry Daniels]

That'S coming back to. Both of them are coming back. Right.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you're right. I know what you did last Summer is in July this year. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Are they filming it now?

[Oscar]

I think they've wrapped already.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, because I have photos of, like, Freddie Prinze and, like, yeah.

[Oscar]

Sarah Michelle Yeller. Yeah. Madeline Klein.

[Harry Daniels]

Is she a new one?

[Oscar]

I think the main girl in it. Yeah. She's from Outer Banks.

[Harry Daniels]

I never see that one. I see it.

[Oscar]

Honestly, I've only saw season one. You know, I just live for just, like a cute, beautiful, blonde, perfect girl. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. I have to watch. I don't know her. That's so weird. I usually would know these people.

[Oscar]

I just live for her. I don't know. The show's not really my vibe. It's kind of. I mean, girls love it, but it is a little bro y for my taste, personally.

[Harry Daniels]

I always just remember Toddy and Scotty from the vlog squad of banks. Like, he redid a whole series of otter banks. Like, they try to recreate it. I was like, this is weird.

[Oscar]

That seems very much, like, on brand. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

That's why I was always like, no, no, I don't need to watch that.

[Oscar]

I love Madeline Clyde.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay, well, I watch over that. And you said the guy from it ends with us is in it too.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brandon. Yeah. Brandon's Glenner. Whatever his name is.

[Harry Daniels]

Watch it streaming or is it airdrop?

[Oscar]

I mean, airdrop. Yeah, yeah. No, I think it's in theaters this weekend. Yeah. You know, yeah, I'm very excited for it. Since I saw the trailer, I'm like, this looks like fun.

[Harry Daniels]

God, if there's so many things I want to see in theaters.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. You're falling behind.

[Harry Daniels]

I know. I think I'll see Minecraft before I see that.

[Oscar]

Yeah, probably.

[Harry Daniels]

I gotta see Minecraft. I gotta know what it's about.

[Oscar]

By the time you see it, like, everyone would have moved on. It'll be like Jurassic Park.

[Harry Daniels]

Yes. We'll cosplay it in the summer, like. Okay. Finally got my Axolotl costume. Don't worry. I know I need to see it.

[Moses]

Well, you can cosplay. You just come. I'm Steve. You can.

[Harry Daniels]

Who's Steve? That's crazy. Who is Steve?

[Oscar]

Steve? Good question.

[Harry Daniels]

You didn't make that up.

[Moses]

No.

[Harry Daniels]

You know Steve from Minecraft.

[Moses]

I think that's what Jake Black.

[Oscar]

That's Jack Black's character. Yeah. I don't know the law.

[Moses]

What is that blue shirt?

[Oscar]

Yeah, the blue shirt.

[Harry Daniels]

I think I'd probably be a better cosplay at that than you. It could be Jason Momoa, but Jason.

[Oscar]

Momoa wears pink, so isn't that better for you?

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, he does. In the. In the show.

[Oscar]

In the movie.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, I saw their, like, pr. They were wearing, like, crochet things.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, why does he wear pink? Is he, like part of the Axolotl?

[Oscar]

I have no idea what the costuming decision was, but he wears a pink jacket down.

[Harry Daniels]

Done and done. I would love. Oh, my God. I love that for him, the crochet.

[Moses]

Was a gift from Jason Momoa to Jack.

[Harry Daniels]

How do you know that?

[Moses]

That's what Jack Black said.

[Harry Daniels]

He said that you said Jason Momoa.

[Moses]

Made this and it was huge on him. I think it was kind of a.

[Harry Daniels]

Funny gag because it was huge on Jack Black.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

But that was like.

[Moses]

Like long, like.

[Harry Daniels]

But that's why I consider on Jason Momoa's part because he probably, like, oh, he wants something oversized because I don't know. I would.

[Oscar]

But this is style anyways.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. 3x everything. I always feel like Jack Black when I wear oversized things. Today was my Jack Black day with sweatpants. And I love. I love an oversized outfit. Like, it just makes you feel skinny. Like, I always wear 3x everything. Cuz I'm like, oh, I'm so tiny.

[Oscar]

It is the perfect life hack.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. I always go up a size. I remember as a kid, I always would, like, I would buy sizes too small for me. I try and squeeze into, like, mediums or like tens and it's like. But then you look crazy comfortable all day. Too comfortable. No one knows the tag size. And then the minute I started buying for my size, I was like, wow, it's kind of life changing.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Buy your size. It's a little life hack. Yeah. The White Lotus drama is everywhere, but I think people won't care in like a week. I am excited. I love when they announced the cast. I remember when they announced the season three cast and I remember being like, I don't know any of these people. But then I know.

[Oscar]

Me too. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

They're gonna cast because, like, we were talking too. It's like, it can't be like a list. It's got to be something.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But now it's such a hot show that, like, you know, those a list actors are like, let me get in there.

[Harry Daniels]

You know, I really do think. I know we love Jack Black. I really think Jack Black because they work together. We looked up Mike White resume. He did Nacho Libre too. Oh, he did not show Libre Libre. He wrote School of Rock. He did Despicable Me 4. We were looking at the whole lore of him yesterday. Yeah. He like Wrote a bunch of stuff.

[Oscar]

So I didn't know he was on the Amazing Race.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, wait, we didn't talk about this. Someone told me him and his dad were on there.

[Oscar]

Yeah, him and his dad were on there. I knew. I watched him on Survivor, but I didn't know he's on the Amazing Race. I love that he is a reality show diva.

[Harry Daniels]

He loves that.

[Oscar]

Is the secrets writing like good characters.

[Harry Daniels]

Didn't he say that on the Howard Stern show too? Is like, he's like, I just watch reality tv. Like, I don't like the drama or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And how he thinks some people, like, write him off because he like, he thought the composer was. Didn't take him serious because he just, like watched a lot of reality tv. Like it's below.

[Harry Daniels]

That's a wild take. It's like you've written all these movies and White Lotus, I think people take you pretty seriously.

[Moses]

But yeah, I mean, he has a good format for a reality tv.

[Oscar]

True.

[Moses]

The White Lotus, it's kind of like a combination between the Real Housewife of Beverly Hills and Big Brother.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses]

Like you put fancy people in a hotel.

[Harry Daniels]

People are nominating a lot of the desperate housewives. Like Marcia Crossing, to be honest.

[Oscar]

Oh, that makes sense.

[Harry Daniels]

That'd be really good, actually, because she's good on all this stuff.

[Oscar]

But I feel like the secret is doing unexpected people. So if I were Mike White, I would look at the list and be like, no, wait, I need my phone.

[Harry Daniels]

Can I get my phone? This is relevant to the thing. Sorry. This is like really important. It's not that important, but it's important to me and I need to thank you. I would never ask you to get up. Would give me my phone.

[Moses]

Is it another schemes order?

[Harry Daniels]

No, I still can't order it on my computer either. I can't because I wanted to get the black dress too. I think I'm blocked. I think my IP or whatever. Is it ip? I don't know. What is it? When they can like verify who you are?

[Oscar]

IP address.

[Harry Daniels]

Is that what it is? Like, you know, when you're anonymous, but like we can find you through the ip? Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. Okay. This account has 9.4 million bustle. Do we know Bustle?

[Oscar]

Yeah, they're like a publication.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, is it like print or is it just.

[Oscar]

I think they're just digital.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. They had the people they want to see on White Lotus.

[Oscar]

Are you on there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

How are you gonna find it, though? Okay, let me see how. That way it's so important to me. And I responded. I'm like, thank you so much. Oh, and they wrote manifesting. Number six was Trisha Paytas. So it says manifesting it for you. Thank you. Bustle 9.4. But let me see who else was on here, because I, like, loved it. How do I get to this thing?

[Oscar]

Can you click the pose?

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, see? Oh, wow. Okay, here's who we want to see in the white lotus season four. Yeah. Oh, right away, I was like Brenda's song. Lindsay Lohan.

[Oscar]

Lindsay Lohan. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so number one was Brenda song. Makes sense.

[Oscar]

Genius. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Love her song. I love her, too. Two was gabby Wendy, which we also love. Oh, yeah. Gabby Wendy would be amazing. Three, Stanley Tucci. He's in everything, so you might as well put him in white lotus for Lindsay Lohan. I mean, that's the comeback. We need number five, Colman Domingo. Do we know him? What's he from?

[Oscar]

He is a. He just did a movie called sing sing, but he's gay, so we love.

[Harry Daniels]

Absolutely. Yes. We need that number six, Trisha Batis.

[Oscar]

Right under Colman Domingo.

[Harry Daniels]

I was also looking that getty image from my Broadway show. My getty images are popping these days. Okay.

[Oscar]

That was how far you've come. Get the images.

[Harry Daniels]

But then look at number seven, Kyle McLaughlin. Have we not been championing him?

[Oscar]

For sure.

[Harry Daniels]

If I got on white Lotus with Kyle McClough, like, watch out. Okay.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Harry Daniels]

My pose, my love post. I loved you since the beginning. I made my husband cosplay you. I mean, how many times have you cosplayed him? You did showgirls. You did Orson from Desperate housewives Flint. Like, you've done him so many times. Like, I am obsessed with him. Cattrall.

[Oscar]

Oh, love. Yes.

[Harry Daniels]

Elaine Hendricks would be good. Number nine.

[Oscar]

Yeah. From parent trap.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. How many are there? I don't know. Oh, Jeff Goldblum.

[Oscar]

Also kind of in everything, though, right?

[Harry Daniels]

Also maybe too big for it, you.

[Moses]

Know, unless he's the hotel manager.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's actually kind of subversive that.

[Moses]

That.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, but it's usually from the country they're from, you know, like Italy. Well, I guess. Yeah. Maybe just Italy. I don't know. Jeremy Strong. Do we know him?

[Oscar]

He's from succession, I think.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, okay. Kelly Rutherford. She looks familiar.

[Oscar]

She's from Gossip Girl. Oh, she's Blake Lively's mom in Gossip Girl.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, she looks like from something else, too. Okay, how many are there? Oh, my God. Wait, there's a lot. Okay. Oh, there's Only. Okay, there's only a few more. Max Greenfield. Do we know him?

[Oscar]

He's from New Girl.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow, look at you, pop culture expert. I feel like we're on a trivia show right now. That's crazy. Kristen Wiig.

[Oscar]

Well, yes.

[Harry Daniels]

She looks. She looks like White Lotus there, for sure.

[Moses]

Well, she had. She had that show that we watched.

[Oscar]

Oh, Palm Royale.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Oh, that's giving.

[Moses]

That was giving.

[Harry Daniels]

That was trying to be White Lotus for sure. I think Leslie Bibb was on that too, actually. And then finally, the Rose family from Schitt's Creek. Yeah, the whole family, which is kind of true, because we would love to see all of them go.

[Moses]

They have a hotel, so it should happen over there.

[Oscar]

Yeah, a little crossover.

[Harry Daniels]

Well, it's having four seasons, but maybe they get their money back. But Moira Parker Posey was giving Moira a lot. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

I think that was the blueprint for her.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, I love the blueprint. Yes. That's so random. You know, like, sometimes you're just like, how do people think of me? Like, it's weird.

[Oscar]

Young Gen Z gay over there somewhere petitioning for you to be on it.

[Harry Daniels]

Honestly. Yeah. That's like, the person that interviewed me at People, too, was like, a young gay, and I was like, I love it. He's like, I so apologize for anyone before me. People's kind of sad, though. They post, like, really sad things a lot.

[Oscar]

People covers a lot because they cover celebrity news, entertainment news, but they also do, like, human interest stories and true crime and stuff like that. They just cover a lot of beats. Well, you kind of segged me up.

[Harry Daniels]

Seg me up, psych me up.

[Oscar]

Perfect segue to I had a Gabby Wendy Hot Topic. Really? Randomly. Did you see her? Little Scandalo. It was pretty. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Moses is on and on.

[Moses]

How did you not see Gabby's Hot Topic?

[Harry Daniels]

Gabby's Hot Topic? Or, like, she said it, she's feuding.

[Moses]

With the guy from the Bachelor, and they're going back and forth from the Bachelor.

[Harry Daniels]

I saw she was tweeting with Michael Buble. Is that different?

[Oscar]

Different.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. Because she's like, I hate Michael Buble. He. I. Dancing with the Stars. I was like, granted, we all hate Michael Buble, but I was like, damn.

[Moses]

Does he do Christmas songs?

[Harry Daniels]

He just seems. He seems dubious. Like, I know there's a ton of stories about Michael Buble that are like, okay, what is. What is this one? Who's the guy from the Bachelor? Which one?

[Oscar]

Clayton Ed Chard. He was the. I. I don't Go here, y'all. So I'm not Bachelor Nation. I haven't checked in for a bachelor season in quite some time. I am a. A gaggy. I am a gaggy enthusiast, though. Love that girl.

[Harry Daniels]

Yep.

[Oscar]

So I had to, like, look into the lore a little bit, so I know a little bit about their lore, but Gabby was one of the contestants on Clayton's season of the Bachelor before she was the Bachelorette. And anyway, she was on Las Culturistas and she was. Oh, yeah. Well, yes.

[Harry Daniels]

What an icon. Oh, my God. They've had, like, Lady Gaga, Ariana, Mariah icon.

[Oscar]

Gabby, Wendy love that period. And she was talking about her Clayton, and she called him a quote, toe looking unquote and said that he posts these, like, dancing videos to his Instagram and TikTok, and she said that his dancing videos would make a person run and wish you didn't have eyes. So Clayton responded by saying. By calling out Gabby, saying, bullying people for their physical looks and their passions is completely unnecessary. And behavior like this needs to be called out so that hopefully it doesn't continue. You have a massive platform and influence, Gabby, so I hope you can reflect upon this moment and be better going forward. Gabby, what you're doing is bullying. There is no other way around it. Attacking. You're attacking me for my physical appearance. You're attacking me for my passion that I love that's changed my life. It's unnecessary and it's not funny now.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow. Okay.

[Oscar]

It was a little intense.

[Harry Daniels]

It was just a little. The comment was the toe looking part was.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay.

[Oscar]

But granted, so toes are. And the dancing and the dancing and the dancing. Which.

[Moses]

Okay, I'm like, he's on tick tock doing dances.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Is he bad or is he good?

[Oscar]

He's fine. It's like, I think this is the context. Is a girl talking about her ex boyfriend who did her dirty.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, this is who won her bachelor or was on her bachelor.

[Oscar]

She was the final three with Clayton on his Bachelor. Yes. And the lore for their season is that there was three final girls. He had them all at the rose ceremonies together, told him. Told them that he was in love with all of them. He told them to their face that he had sex with all of them, like, without their consent to say that. So he sat there, he said, I. He said that he had sex with all of them as they were standing there on this roast ceremony awkwardly.

[Harry Daniels]

How did he say it? That's crazy. He said, I had sex with all of you guys.

[Oscar]

He said that he was intimate with all of them. Yeah. As they're all standing there together, like.

[Moses]

Surprising them live on air.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Moses]

Like, he said it in public on air. That's the first time they heard about it. That's the first time.

[Harry Daniels]

That is kind of a wild thing to say. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

And they were just. They just had to stand there during this, like, really long and awkward rose ceremony as he was going on and on. And then afterwards, he begged each of them to stay, made them meet his family just a day or two after this rose ceremony, and then decided to throw them a new one by breaking up with them at the same time. He broke up with Gabby, and I forget the other girl's name, but you know how her season was, the two bachelorettes, because they were the two that got dumped by Clayton. All really. But he, like, was really stringing them along. He made it. Obviously, that's the nature of the Bachelor. You know, you did a lot of people. He fall in love with people, but he really strung them along and made it a lot more traumatic than.

[Harry Daniels]

I just feel like they should be having sex with the people if they're not. Like. Like, especially all of them. Okay, I can see. Okay, maybe there's two. I don't know. Let's test it out.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

What are the two? But all three of them, and then you jump two of them at the.

[Oscar]

Same time, and then you just drop that bomb in front of all of them without, like, their consent to even.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, he apologized to her.

[Oscar]

No, he has. After the show. He has since gone on a mental health journey, if you will. He got really into wellness and all of that. But, like, if that's your ex and you did her dirty, obviously she. It's. To me, it was more like girl venting about her ex boyfriend. And granted, Clayton is a 6, 5, white, like a college football player. He is very conventionally attractive. So it's not like she was punching down.

[Harry Daniels]

Right. It's not like me calling an ex boyfriend a toe looking. You look like a toe.

[Oscar]

He's like a model, you know, so it's like. It's not like she's punching down. Obviously, she was attracted to him at one point. That's why she was on the show and, like, slept with him and everything.

[Harry Daniels]

So, yeah, he's a little crazy to be like, that's not okay. You're bullying. Bullying is crazy because, like, relentlessly being, like, toe looking ugly, like, that's, like, just over and over saying it.

[Oscar]

It's like, obviously he's attractive every. I think the Word bullying. Like, I. I'm more concerned about the kids in school who are being bullied for the color of their skin or their sexuality like that. To me, bullying is just such an intense word. So to say this is boring. I'm like, it's just a girl talking because you did her dirty.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Which I totally get and love. But I do think a good rule of thumb is to like, oh, my God, ignoring an ex is just the best. You know what I mean? Especially Gabby, who's thriving. Like, obviously, say whatever you want because I'm all about it too. Like, drag an ex all day long. But I do love when I can taking a high road. You know what I mean? Because then it's like, I don't even think about you, you know, as Justin Bieber says, like, I didn't want to write this song, the one song I don't want anyone thinking I care when I still don't, you know? And that's period on that. So I'm delading Gabby, obviously.

[Oscar]

Yeah, me too.

[Harry Daniels]

You know, and if she wants to call you a toe, you're a toe. Because you put out her business, her sexual business on air. You dumped her, strung her along, and.

[Oscar]

Just made that experience worse than it had to be for her.

[Harry Daniels]

So like I said, I should support any girl that wants to, like, drag their awful ex do it all day long. But sometimes it does feel better when you're like. Especially when you're succeeding and thriving. Like, I think when I was like, like she has. This is like her moment. Clearly she's number two on the list for White Lotus. So it's like, this is your moment. Just keep going. And then that ex will ever would be like, damn honestly to you, because.

[Oscar]

I also didn't know about him until I had to go look him up to get the lore.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

But it was crazy, though, because the. The Bachelor nation was very much pro. Clayton, I was like, y'all, what? Like, I feel like we lost the part.

[Harry Daniels]

They're toxic. Bachelor Nation toxic. I think they favor men. I don't really know much about, but seems to favor men because the season we started, Moses just left. But the season was. Who was the one we like? He would have. Did not like him. He was, like, kind of dumb. Do you remember? He was, like, good looking, but kind of dumb. Just kind of like white with, like.

[Oscar]

You're describing pretty much 95 of every Bachelor contestant that's been on the program.

[Harry Daniels]

I don't know. He was really boring, but we watched that whole season or whatever. But he did the same thing. He, like, said, I had sex with you in the fantasy suite. Just something so random and so weird. And I was like. And then he, like, broke up with her. And the person he didn't have sex with, he ended up picking. I was like, you are weird. And then the Bachelor nation was behind him and supported him. I'm like, toxic, toxic, toxic. I don't like it. I don't like those shows. We kind of stopped watching, too. I kind of liked it. Kind of thought it was funny. And I'm like, this kind of feels like a humiliation kink or something. I don't know. It's kind of weird.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I was into it for a bit, I think. For me, I just got very, I think, kind of repetitive, you know, because it is kind of the same. It's like literally like the same format, the same, like, archetype, same tropes over and over again. And so many seasons.

[Harry Daniels]

The guys always have to strip every episode, like, every. There's always a competition where the guys are strippers. Then there's a competition where the women are, oh, did you see that? The Bachelor. What's one Golden Bachelor is doing? They're going to be going to paradise. Some of the old Golden Bachelor people that didn't make it, they get to go to paradise to find each other.

[Oscar]

Like, are the oldies segregated from the young, the young ones or what? Are they intermingled?

[Harry Daniels]

I would hope, because that be so weird. Like, they're dating, like, a young one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

The senior.

[Harry Daniels]

I think they're doing their own.

[Oscar]

Okay, that makes more sense, I think.

[Harry Daniels]

I mean, that would be weird. Yeah. But I like that second chance at love.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

I wonder how the second couple did on Golden Bachelor. You never hear anything about Joanne.

[Moses]

Yeah, that should be called, like, more like Heaven Island.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, that's a knock. Just popped it. I mean, we're all going to, I guess, one day, but yeah, they should do a celebrity Bachelor. Have they ever done that?

[Oscar]

I don't think so. Not. And like, I guess like a flavor of love or like that is kind of the tea.

[Harry Daniels]

But I don't like Bachelor. We stopped watching it.

[Oscar]

I had one more Bachelor related topic. And not because I like the Bachelor, because I thought the idea was interesting. And I do remember Caitlyn Caitlin Bristow. She was on a season I watched. I forget which one. But she got backlash because she called out her ex from the show, Jason Tardick, because he took her baby name for his pet dog.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, I hate that. Okay, so you're on Someone was like, oh, we're naming our dog Elvis and I. No, you're not.

[Oscar]

Always someone, you know.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, someone's like, oh, we're gonna. I think they even, like, asked my mom, like, oh, is that. Are they, like, sat on Elvis? Because we were gonna. You know, we're about to name our dog that. I was like, like, elvis has been my baby name since I was, like, a little kid. I was like, no, you're not taking that as your dog's name. That is so annoying. Okay.

[Oscar]

Because everyone was like, I feel like the majority of the Internet was against her. I was kind of on her side, too.

[Harry Daniels]

No, that's weird. That's crazy. Especially an ex, because I've told all my ex's names and my babies. If one of my exes named their babies Elvis or Malibu Barbie, I'd be like, or their dog or whoever. I'd be like, that's so weird. Especially. That's all I've ever talked about was like, okay.

[Oscar]

Because she said that it's. First of all, the name was Teddy. So I think that's where she got a little bit of backlash, because it is kind of like a generic name for, I guess, a dog, too. But she said that it was her dream baby name and that they had talked about this together for years because they were together a long time. And then he did get a dog and named his golden retriever Teddy, and she called him out for that. But then she got a lot of backlash, and she had to kind of, like, respond to it.

[Harry Daniels]

Did she. Did she apologize? I hope she didn't.

[Oscar]

No, not really. She said, yes, it's a comment. Yes, Teddy is a common dog name. Yes, he can name his dog whatever he wants. And it's effed up that he knew it was my dream baby name. He talked about it for years. Yes, I have major things to work on in relationships, and I've already done so much work. I've seen tremendous growth in myself. I'm so proud of who I am today. My timeline is processing, and being who I am doesn't have to look like anyone else's standard for a timeline. So she kind of, like, held her ground, I think, and kind of just.

[Harry Daniels]

Clarified a little bit, 100%, because even if it's like, like, and, you know, whatever it is, that's something you talked about over and over with your partner. And then they named their dog that. That's weird. Jason Tardy sounds familiar. Is he on something? That name sounds.

[Oscar]

He was on the Bachelor or whatever.

[Harry Daniels]

Nothing after that.

[Oscar]

I don't know. Maybe. Maybe I don't know any better.

[Harry Daniels]

Such a funny show. Because people become so obsessed with them and then you just like, never hear about them ever again.

[Oscar]

Yeah. There's a select. I feel like a lot of them get podcasts on the iHeartRadio. I see.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. Nick Vile.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Honestly. Clayton Etcher. I know he's got an I heart podcast.

[Harry Daniels]

They all get iheartrading me to be on it. Oh, what's his name?

[Oscar]

Colton Underwood. Yes.

[Harry Daniels]

Love their family. But also. Yeah, he's so handsome. But also. You know what I mean? Like, anyways.

[Oscar]

What?

[Harry Daniels]

I don't know. Like. Okay, no, like, he's so good looking.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Right.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Harry Daniels]

You know, sometimes, like. And I don't think his partner's, like, not attractive, but it's like, you know, it doesn't, like, go together sometimes. But, you know, I guess that does. But that's.

[Oscar]

Love is love. Love is love.

[Harry Daniels]

I love that. I guess my point is, I do love that. I love when, like, you don't really see someone, like, go together and you're like, oh, okay. And then look happy they have a baby. Yeah, they look happy. But I have so many questions for him. I want him on the podcast. I have so many questions.

[Oscar]

I know, because he is, like, kind of like a Gabby, where he was on the show twice or whatever, and then ended up being gay.

[Harry Daniels]

And then he jumped walls to get away from the women. I was like, I need to know why you jumped that wall. Why did you go so high Somewhere in there?

[Oscar]

He knew.

[Harry Daniels]

I think so, but maybe not, you know. Who was it? Oh, I was talking about someone who knows, like, G Flip and Chrishell. And they were saying, like, Chrishell, like, wasn't with women before. And she just, like, came up to her at a party, Chrishell to G Flip, and just, like, made out with her and was like, obsessed with her, like, right away. And I was like, wait, that's so interesting. So you weren't even like, bi before and you're just like.

[Oscar]

Maybe because she was in a relationship for so long. Right. Because she was with what's his name from this is Us the. Right. Wasn't that her?

[Harry Daniels]

What? Really? I don't know her lore like that. I didn't know then she. I think she dated one of the Oppenheimer brothers. I think I want to.

[Oscar]

Justin Hartley. Yeah. That she was with them from 2017 to 2022.

[Harry Daniels]

Justin Hartley's the Atlas.

[Oscar]

No, he's from not. It ends with us. This is us. But the Mandy Moore show. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

So confusing. Oh, so she was with him for a long time.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she was with him for. Was that five years, but do not know.

[Harry Daniels]

You know what I mean? I guess you don't. I'm not.

[Oscar]

Maybe now you're just with them for so long that, like, your heart's not even open. Right. To what else is out there.

[Harry Daniels]

Right, right.

[Oscar]

Because it's just so focused on this kind of like Kyle Richards from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills because she was with her husband for such a long time and afterwards she, I guess, is exploring her sexuality with women and stuff too. So.

[Harry Daniels]

Right. Like, if you do it at a young age, you get married, you don't really know that doesn't work out, then you're maybe just like in the world.

[Oscar]

That's also changed a lot even in those five years. Like.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Because I feel like bisexuality wasn't very prevalent even today. It's not really that prevalent.

[Harry Daniels]

No. We're fighting for our bisexual people out there. I think there's Mike White and Alan Cummings has been like, we're bisexual. We don't want to be just gay.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. So I think just that knowledge that that is a thing and an option opens people's minds.

[Harry Daniels]

I love that. Yeah, yeah. And that's everything.

[Oscar]

I love that you're on Caitlyn's side, though, because no one else is.

[Harry Daniels]

So I didn't hear that story, but right away I was like. Because I had someone, not even a boyfriend, but just someone in my life that, like, knows me really well. That was like, we're gonna name our dog Elvis. I was like, no, absolutely not. That's the craziest thing if you have a baby. And like, I don't know, I think what is worse, naming your baby a name that you love. Like if he had a baby with someone named it or a dog. Dog.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. I kind of think at least the. The dog is. It's just him, you know, him getting a dog. I feel like it's worse if he had a baby because then that involves another woman and stuff.

[Harry Daniels]

I guess so.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Now I feel like it's extra personal. At least this is just him and that dog. You didn't need a woman.

[Harry Daniels]

People hate when you take, like a baby name too. Like, that was my baby name. I see that on Tick Tock too. It was like with friends and stuff, right? Yeah. When the friends take it and I'm like, well, you had that happen. Your brother took your baby name.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but that was kind of just by coincidence. I guess because I. I never put it out there that. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

I don't know. I don't think it's bad. Like, honestly, I feel like if people want to name their kids Malibu Barbie, I'm like, that's. Yeah. Do it. Like. I don't know. You like a trendsetter. You know, I don't think it's a.

[Oscar]

Bad thing, but just if, like, it's someone, you know personally.

[Harry Daniels]

At first, maybe, I guess when you and I didn't know Kourtney Kardashian, but when I thought they were gonna have a boy named Elvis, that's why I had a claim Elvis, I was like, just so you know, we're not copying.

[Oscar]

Them, like, but because you said that you're the someone trying to name their dog Elvis, and.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So if it. But that you'd be upset with that, but it's because you knew them more. Is. Is that why?

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, I think just because that was. That's my name. Like, that's my name for my baby. And, like, you're gonna just get a dog and take that name? Yeah. I don't like that. That I don't like. Oh, but I guess. Okay, are you saying. Because now.

[Oscar]

But if you had, like. If you knew. If you're just new kind of friendly with someone and they also had, like, a Malibu.

[Harry Daniels]

Right. I guess it's a little hypocritical.

[Oscar]

Yeah. That's just to clarify. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Right. I think in my head, I want to be this woke person that's like, everyone take this name, but I'm back on her side.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Don't take me. But now. But like I said now that I did it first. But yeah, someone close to me naming their dog. Because that's like naming your dog my child's name. Is that. That's, like, weird.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think depending on closeness. Like, if I was close with someone, I also just, like, wouldn't want to have the same name, especially if it's more, like, unique. If it was like, a normal, like, family name, like, you know, like a. Maybe like a Steve or something, like, if it's just a family thing, then that's fine. But I think if I had a friend and it was like a unique baby name, I don't know if I would hate them for it. I think I just would find something else.

[Harry Daniels]

I think that's kind of what it is, too, because, like, obviously not related, but kind of when Addison came out with her Aquamarine song, I was a little shocked. Obviously, she's not doing. Because of Me. But I was a little shook because Aquamarine was, like, such a front runner for our name. And now I'm like, oh, I don't want the association to be that, like, we named it after Addison. Love Addison. Right. But, like, don't want it to be named after, like, her song.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Even though it was, like, more about the movie. So I think we, like, took that out of the running. You know what I mean? I didn't know Miley Cyrus had one called Malibu. I had no idea. Someone's like, yeah. I was like, oh, okay. Didn't know. Well, it would have changed because I still. Her name is Malibu Barbie, so I like it. I think. I wish we would have done Malibu Barbie as her first name because it's her middle name.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

And so it kind of just goes by Malibu. If you're just like. Like, like on the airplane, you can. You only have to put a first name. So I kind of wish we had the full first name. Malibu Arby.

[Moses]

I think this gives her more flexibility. Yeah, but because she will Barbie. Yeah. But if she wants to present herself as a Malibu Barbie, she will. But if she doesn't want. Then she has the option.

[Harry Daniels]

Tiana calls her Malibu Barbie every time she sees her saying Malibu Barbie. Yeah. I'm with her on this one. And I'm with Gabby. Always with the girls. Forever. Is Gabby's wife on Hacks?

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Harry Daniels]

Just the season or all the seasons?

[Oscar]

Just this season. This is their first season. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

What is their role?

[Oscar]

I honestly don't know. It premieres tonight. When? That. When the episode airs Thursday. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

I need to watch it. And Jake Shane has playing himself or he's playing someone else.

[Oscar]

I think. I think he's playing a character and I think he's in a couple episodes. Talk to a Girls in Glen Powell show. But she's playing Glen Powell. I mean, not.

[Harry Daniels]

She's playing.

[Oscar]

Would be a role of a lifetime, actually. She's playing Hawk Tua.

[Harry Daniels]

What show is he on? What show is that?

[Oscar]

He has this new show he's working. I saw it on tmz. She was Hawk to a girl. Cast as Hawk to a girl in Glenn Powell's new show. I think she just has a little cameo in there.

[Harry Daniels]

But did she come back or. No, she's still gone.

[Oscar]

I think she's making a comeback. She has a new documentary coming out and it's by, like, an Emmy winning, like, production company, weirdly, like a. I think they did, like, true crime documentary before, and there's definitely a crime voice committee well, she was, yeah. I think they did an investigation to her crypto thing and I guess she was cleared herself. Wow. And then she's. I think she's doing. Talk to her again, but without Jake Paul's company is what I read. I don't know how that works.

[Harry Daniels]

I just love her. I love Haley, but also just. Just so over the hock to a.

[Oscar]

Me too. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Haley Welch. Try rebrand or maybe you know what, there's nothing wrong just being content in your little town in Tennessee. We were back in Ohio and the people are just so happy and places, you know, people are just happy with their lives, their day to day lives. They don't desire fame, they don't desire people knowing them and they seem really happy. I was like, honestly, this is a serve. This is where you need to stay. Because so many of our family members aren't on social media or anything that they're just happy. They take photos just to take photos. They don't post. I was like, do you want to post? You want to sell them? He's like, no, I just like taking pictures. And I was like, good for you. Keep that because that's amazing. You have to listen to anyone's criticism. The pictures were really good. I was trying like, look at this. This looks like you should be selling these photos. He's like, I just like to take photos and I don't need anyone to see them except ours, our family. And I love that everyone's so content. You know the thing about the Midwest, we notice everyone has base basements because of tornadoes. We had basements too, but their whole basements are just playrooms for kids. Just giant playrooms.

[Moses]

Like everyone has a daycare in their house. Bas.

[Oscar]

That's so cute.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Midwest is very family oriented. That's why Malibu's in heaven. Because all my cousins have kids. So she was like 12 kids. And she just got to play with them in all these giant playrooms, little kitchen sets, whatever.

[Moses]

And they're just so happy because they know like she just goes from one station to the other and it's kind of the same. So like there's the doctor station. She goes, she puts the rope, she takes a baby, she tests everything. Ears, okay. Goes to the kitchen, does the dishes, cook something. Then goes to the. There's like a Target cashier thing. She checks you out and then there's. There's obviously a stage with a microphone. And then they start singing and performing.

[Harry Daniels]

They have a lot of stages back.

[Moses]

It's quite amazing how.

[Harry Daniels]

And the kids are so Nice not to like go back that way. The kids are like so nice. They're a little older than Malibu. They're like, maybe the youngest is 5 and the oldest is like 15. And like even the 10 year olds, they play with her. But out here. We had an incident, we talked about one time like at a party and like a three year old when Malibu was like one was like, you're a baby, you can't sit with us. I was like, God, people are so mean back there. 10 year olds are playing with her fate.

[Moses]

No, everyone wanted to hold her hand and play with her.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, stay wholesome, Midwest. And shout out to all those people who are content with just living life, just observing. Even my meet and greets people are like, oh, I just scroll TikTok. I don't have to like, my first thing is I always be like, oh, did you post a tick tock? Did you just like. No, I don't have. I just like to watch it. I was like, good for you. Honestly, keep that life. It's, it's good. I just like, I feel like I'm always trying to like aspire for more and more and then I get mad, oh, I can't be on Traders this year because I'm pregnant. It's like, like, God, people in the Midwest are just happy with where they're at, you know? Yeah, stay that way. And they were really happy and living their life and I don't know, I don't know. I, I'm. There is something like wired a little differently in my brain.

[Oscar]

I do think there are people like that here too, but.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, I don't think so. No. You think that we talk about this all the time. You think I meet people, oh, I never, I never want to be in the spotlight. Then they get these big heads. You show them in a vlog once and then they're like, I have fans. And it's just like I think everybody in LA has that desire, even if they don't.

[Moses]

We talked about it because how many people you meet that are from la? There's not that many, you know, more because you grew up here, but you know everyone. You meet a waiter in a place and they moved here to be an actor, to have a singer or something like the transplants.

[Harry Daniels]

But even if they don't say that, even if they don't know they want that, you give them a little taste. And I've had it happen with so many people in my life. They get big heads, they get this and there's like nothing wrong with it. Of course, obviously we all want, like, a little attention. But it's just always funny when people like, no, I would never want that life. I would never want attention. I would never want this. And then they, like, they like, they become. They have a little taste of stardom. It happened at Cheesecake Factory once. I put a waiter in my vlog and he like, he quit his job at Cheesecake Factory. He was like, literally. And he's like, we should vlog more. We should do this. I'm like, oh, my God, I am so sorry that I ever put you in that vlog. Because he, like, quit his job to, like, tour with his band. Maybe he did. Well, I don't remember. If you guys remember, it was back in like 2012. His name was Kyle and maybe he has a big band now. I don't know. But I remember him quitting because everyone just thought he was like, so hot. And I think back then I was like, look at my hot Cheesecake Factory waiter. Whatever. He's in Marine Del Rey. And I guess he got followers. And then he just, like, quit his job to like, go be a rock star full time, which again, is good. But, you know, he was. He was a lesser example. Sometimes my. I've had friends where they just love it and I think that's all of la. But do you know, I guess you said you know some people that aren't.

[Oscar]

I mean, like. Yeah, I think, because I just know people who are just from here and have like, normal jobs. Like, my brother is very happy just working on the bus ways, you know.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. He has no desire.

[Moses]

He's all in crime, you know.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, yeah, True. Yeah, right?

[Harry Daniels]

That is true.

[Oscar]

Solves local crimes.

[Harry Daniels]

That's true. That's okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Your brother's like a local hero. He's like, let me investigate this. You're right. You're right.

[Oscar]

But yeah, I do think probably Tran, like, if a transplant, like if you move to la, there's probably obviously some kind of ambition to that, you know, you just move from nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

So.

[Harry Daniels]

I agree.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I thought this was kind of interesting. There was a Tick tocker who was once on two ought to handle in the Perfect Match. I guess this is a very reality show theme day. Francesca Farago, she was on those shows. Now she's.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, I love her.

[Oscar]

Oh, you do love her.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, yeah, she's all over her Tick tock.

[Oscar]

Yes, yes, yes. Well, did you see her snap story? No, I'm not either, but it got reposted everywhere.

[Harry Daniels]

I haven't seen.

[Oscar]

She went On Snap to talk about how she was offered money to make an anti Hailey Bieber video.

[Harry Daniels]

T. Did she show receipts? Was she like this is the email.

[Oscar]

No, she didn't show receipts. She said she could, but she said she did say she sent them to Haley though, which I think was.

[Harry Daniels]

Was love that.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

So you know girl, you know girl.

[Oscar]

She's a girl's girl. Love. Yeah, she said that kind of. You talked about this a little bit before how like companies that have like a song or a sound that they want to promote, they reach out to pay you to use the sound somehow. So she said that I couldn't find the trend that she was talking about. I did look for it. Maybe you've seen it. But there is a trend where everyone calls themselves a Haley Bieber because they stalk their man and how they got them.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, that sounds very real.

[Oscar]

I've seen that meme a lot. I haven't seen the specific trend, but a company did offer to pay her to do that trend so to make a tick tock about being the Hailey Bieber and like stalking the man. And she said even though it was meant to be like a funny meme, she said it. It seemed kind of mean to her.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And she wasn't comfortable with being paid to do that. So she went her snap and said sometimes me and Jesse get paid to do a trend on Tick Tock. The person who started the trend or the person who owns the song that's on the trend, they'll pay creators to do it. She said someone is paying creators to do the trend and making fun of Hailey Bieber. And I think that is so mean. They offered me a decent amount of money to do it and I was like, no. Even if it's funny, light hearted, whatever, it's still low key. Not. Maybe I'm just being dramatic, but she's a new mom. It's so mean to have this much hate on her. And I'm like, that's so fierce. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

There's only sound promos where I'm like, I don't know. This doesn't seem like my vibe. Because they want you to do the exact like trend.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

So I never got that one. That's interesting. Who's. I wonder. But she should say who sent it? Like I want to know.

[Oscar]

Me too. I'm curious as like who the company is. I'm sure it's like, like you know, not whoever is directly behind it. I'm sure they. Whoever wants that out there paid a company to go and try to promote it or whatever.

[Harry Daniels]

But even so, it's always from like a universal music. It's always from like some music company.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

So it's kind of odd.

[Oscar]

That's why I was trying to find the exact trend to see, like, what the sound was, you know, I couldn't find the exact trend because I've seen the meme and I've seen people do variations of it, but I've always seen like different random sounds.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Because obviously if it's like an official sound from like a label or something, that's like very telling. But yeah, I couldn't find the exact one that she was saying she started.

[Harry Daniels]

A head campaign, though. It's not like she's in a movie or something. You know, it's not like lively. Justin.

[Oscar]

I know, because I don't. I mean, granted, it is one of those things where it like a wave of hate came out of nowhere with that, like, YouTube quote unquote documentary that was up for a long time that suddenly got viral on Tick Tock. So it is interesting, the timing of.

[Moses]

It all, but it's more like, let's say you have a song that you want to promote higher PR company, they come up with an idea that they think will go viral. And that was the idea and awful idea.

[Harry Daniels]

But I see you're saying because this is.

[Moses]

This is the company in between the song and the creators. Paint creators to promote the song.

[Harry Daniels]

So knowing it'll get views.

[Moses]

That's what they came up with.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay, so maybe it's not smear campaign against her. Maybe the song person was just like, well, this is.

[Oscar]

Let's take advantage of. Yeah. Of the Haley hate. That does make more sense because it is like, so like, who would be motivated to that extent, you know, like, because a lot of the. I feel like a lot of the hate is kind of just fueled by the Stan wars of like, Selena, Justin, Haley, you know?

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So to go to that extent is kind of insane, but.

[Harry Daniels]

Well, I. We were not paid. We had like a three week. Yeah, no, he posted her today. And I was like. I was the first comment. Adorable. Love it. You know what I mean? Like, I love their love. I love that he's supporting her. And I think that's great. And that's all that matters. That's the best is like, when everyone's coming down on you, but then your husband's like, let me just post a solo shot of my wife.

[Oscar]

And even when I was thinking, this is so like, like stale tea at this point. But remember when he like posted like, Irreplaceable was a song and to. To like a photo dump of Haley or whatever. And everyone's like, he's trying to shade her. I honestly. And it kind of said it. I think he just thought of a word to describe Haley and was like, she's irreplaceable.

[Harry Daniels]

And I think he just was the song Shady.

[Oscar]

Everyone thought it was like shade. Cuz don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable. To the left, to the left, left everything you own to the box. He just looked up like an adjective and went with it, you know?

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

I think he's just a. It's. I don't.

[Moses]

I think I'm so good at social media.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I'm so accustomed to how Trisha uses social media that it's so normal.

[Harry Daniels]

We're on the same wave.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It's just liking things randomly, not really paying all that much.

[Harry Daniels]

That was me today. Yeah. Where we can transition to our next one. That literally was like liking copies. Comments. I did the Michaela apology and I was like. In comments like, Oscar was the one being mean. And then I unliked it because I was like, oh, no. Because, you know, I just go down. I'm like, yep, yep, yep. And then I saw a couple and I was like, oh, let me unlike that one. You know what I mean? Because I just go down. I'm like, if someone leaves a comment, I love it. I try to read it, I read quickly. So I just look at it.

[Oscar]

The speed reading. Yeah, for sure.

[Harry Daniels]

That's why. And then I'll see a comment like, okay, let me not especially if it's about you. Sometimes I see Oscar, I just like, you know, they're talking about Oscar. But then if it's like something shady, I was like, okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But honestly, I would kind of agree with the comments, to be honest, because obviously Michaela has spoke out. Not loving the take from the podcast. And normally I wouldn't care if I like, if I believed what I was saying or like agreed with myself in past tense. But I did go back to see it because I was like, damn, what did I really say? To be honest.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And honestly, I think Michaela was pretty valid. I think I. My point, I still kind of agree with. You know, I think I was just trying to say that Michaela is known for being like the ultimate influencer and she does have the knack for being able to sell the hell out of a product. So I think it was just a little distracting. Maybe to have, you know, do such a confessional and honest style video as a get ready with me with. And obviously that's her style. And I get that. I'm just saying maybe that was a little bit distracting. And also I think my second point was, you know, maybe it was a little intense to say everyone who's commented on it, there's a special place in hell for them because, you know, as a content creator and you did kind of play into the speculation a little bit. But granted, there is a big subsection of that that's not constructive criticism and it's people who just hate her. So I totally get that and I think those are fair points. But I think my delivery was just, like, so intense and, like, I think I came across very judgmental and insensitive. And that, like, was not my intention intense. But I think it was just. Maybe I was just too emotional that day, to be honest. So I felt bad. I really did feel bad because I feel like I. I think because I actually don't dislike Michaela.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

If I thought she was just like a mean, nasty person, I wouldn't care. But I actually. I have a soft spot for her. I do.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And anytime we've ever talked about her, I feel like I usually. I think she's very camp. I usually am pretty neutral on Mikaela Mascara Gate kind of can't even when she was like, you tried being an influencer for a day. I think she had. I understood her point. Delivery was a little much, but I understood her point.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So I've never really had it out for her, but I totally understand that I came across, like, very mean and judgmental, especially she's going through such a sensitive time and I think I just worded it so insensitively. And I. In my head, too, I was trying to be nice with. By paying her compliments. I was like, I commend her strength. The fact that she is willing to take him back with open arms is very beautiful.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Her work ethic is just so insane. The fact that she was going through such a hard time was able to do it all. But I also understand how, because my tone was so judgmental, that that could be perceived as, like, passive aggressive when it really. It was genuine compliments. Because I do think that does take a lot of strength to still be able to present and get your work done despite all of that. So I was genuine about those compliments. So.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. The. It's so funny. Yeah. Criticism you. Whenever you hear it from someone, never. It just like, never feels Good. And I love Michaela. I've always loved Michael. I've always defender. And because of that, I see a lot of myself in her words. Like, I could tell she's very sensitive. Obviously she's very young and like, this is all new to her. Whenever I hear criticism about myself, like, I immediately shut off, shut down that person with what they're saying. Because also no one wants to hear it. You know what I mean? No one wants to hear that she doesn't want to hear any of that. Which, you know, that was my advice to her was just like, just don't watch anything about yourself. And granted, like, she was like, I was. She like bought tickets to my boss and show. I didn't even know. Like, Michaela and I have talked. Talked a couple times in dm. We follow each other. I really love her. I did a tick tock on that Saturday before, which I mentioned the last one where I was like, which I never talk about Hot Topics, but I was like, damn. Like, I did not know. Like, it really goes to show you don't know what someone's going through. And I have like so much. Like, I just couldn't even imagine what she was going through. So I think, yeah, like hearing any sort of criticism, even me, because I know she thought I was being mean to her in the episode, which I was like, oh my God. And if she thought that I was like, let me apologize because I. I wasn't trying to be either. Truly. Truly. Because there's like one person like, is Michaela. You know, and in general, we try not to be mean on this show. You know, it's like we kind of see all the sides of it. But I think when you hear something, you kind of only hear like the negative parts of it. You know what I mean? And then she did like a follow up where she was like, okay, she was kind of defending me and she was so I think it was like. And. And this morning we talked like this morning of filming of Wednesday, she like had DM me and she's like, I'm sorry, I had like a mental, like a little breakdown. A little. Yeah, I don't either. And that's the thing. Like, it sucks when you hear anyone doing criticism, especially when everyone is. And but then it's also like if she really is a fan of mine, which, like, I didn't know really to that. To that aspect of it. Like, I don't know, you know what I mean? So I didn't know she like watched that or would see it. And when I apologized for that. She saw it. A lot of people kind of came for me for that. I guess the thing is, is like, this is what we do. Like, I mean, of course in everyday life. Because a lot of people, like, no one should be commenting on her husband except for her. Granted, if it's like real life, yes, of course. But it's influencer life. And people talk about it. We saw it on people. Like, we talk about like people, whatever. And it sucks. Like, it's like me too, whenever I'm like a hot topic in something. Like, it sucks, like hear anything. So that's why I just don't. But that is part of it. The tribing an influencer for a day. I agree with that because that is annoying. That's the only part of this job that sucks is like everything you do will be talked about no matter what. Like, if you're not posting about Cody, if you are posting about Cody, putting Cody online, like, and that's with Moses too. When we like first started dating, it's like, do you, do you stay online? Do you not at the beginning. I have family members, my brother, my dad who like my dad, maybe more so. But like, don't want anything to a social media, like, do not put me on it, whatever. And then, yeah, when you start dating someone that's not on social media, like Cody was and Moses and all stuff like that, it's kind of like, all right, like, like you have to be prepared for it. And I think like, when we got a lot of hate back in 2021, like, I felt so bad, it wasn't fair to Moses. I was like, that's not fair to Moses that he's getting his past dragged up and everything like that. But at the end of the day, it's not fair for sure. But you put him on social media. And I'm not saying that's Michaela. I'm just saying with our situation and just in general, like, when you put someone on social media, that's just how it is. People are just like, talk about you and yeah, of course, where I'm closer to her. And now I would never. Like we, me and Michaela have talked. I hoping to get to meet her in Boston next week. I was like, it's an honor if I get to meet you because she's, if she's going to come to my show. And like now we're closer. It's hard when we know someone too, like Brooke or anybody when something is a hot topic. It's like if we don't talk about it. It's part of the podcast. It's kind of what we do. And I feel like we're pretty fair and kind in this day and age, especially about with women and all stuff like that. Our angle is to never like tear them down for sure. But it is part of it. And me too, if I like, if I'm ever talked about or there's something happening. And with this Michaela stuff, I did get a lot of hate as well, obviously. Like, oh my God, how could you have talked about Michaela like that? And I just try to apologize when I can because, like the last thing I wanted to do was like hurt her feelings. Like, that was not my intention. To me I was like, it's a really big story. People picked it up, it's everywhere. And then that. Yeah, your point of view was. No pun intended, but there is a new line out. Point of View by Mikayla. I love the packaging, honestly. It's a good name actually. Because then you talk. Okay, not sponsored, but I do, I do like that I heard what you were saying and I was like, okay. So I don't know, it's more just like a discussion. People are talking about it. But I totally get. And I felt really bad. Oh my God. To make someone cry is like, especially like that when you're going through something and you're emotional because like no matter how well you seem to be doing and how much money you're making, like, it does feel the worst, especially him being in rehab. So she has like nobody to support her. Like, if Moses was gone and I was going through like all of this by myself, like, that would be extremely hard. So I felt really bad. And because I know her personally, obviously I have bias now and especially now talking to her and stuff like that. Like, but I feel like I've always had compassion. I feel like always. And I always say that when like older influencers bully her and like, and bully in the term of like we talked about bullying earlier. But when I think bullying is the definition of like, you're constantly talking like she talked about Rich Lux in that, in that video where she's like, fu. Rich Lux. Because he really does relentlessly go after Michaela for every little thing. And that's why she's like. And anyone who makes a video about this and blah, blah, like, you know, F you, whatever, that is annoying when someone's like obsessed with you and they won't stop talking about you and it's kind of one sided. So I've always had her back when it's, like, an older influencer, like, you know, just constantly coming for her, but anyone. So I'm gonna make a compilation of all the times that if I'm Michaela, because I love her, I always think she's camp. I totally get it. I'm. I'm for her. I'm for her business, her hustle, her product placement, all that stuff like that. I think she looks great. I think she's beautiful. She has great taste in music if she's coming to my show. So I just. I really like her. And of course, yeah, if I make anyone cry, especially if I didn't know that, like, I still feel bad. Like, that happened with Lauren Gray. She was on Zach Sang, like, a couple of years ago, and she's like, yeah, like, Trisha was on a podcast making fun of me for hanging out Bryce Hall. And I apologize to her because, like, the last thing I want to do is be mean. That was kind of in my mean era when I was being mean. But I don't want to be, like, mean making people cry again. Especially, like, it's me, like, who might have judged literally anybody for sharing anything or oversharing or sharing too much or too little. Yeah, she does get crazy, unnecessary hate for kind of nothing. You know what I mean? And, you know, girl, like, do you just keep doing you and. Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. Like, when you see. Especially when you see someone that you're a fan of, talk about you. I've been there, too. It's just the worst. And you kind of don't forget it. There's people I like, love, and I still see, but I'm like, I'll never forget that time you talked about me. You know what I mean? But as Wendy Williams once said, I would ask you to protect my privacy, but I wouldn't. And she was true. You know, when she got. She got her husband. That scandal was crazy. I mean, at least she's real about it, because you can't ask Wendy Williams. Stop talking about Hot Topics. You know, am I the Wendy Williams in the situation? Yeah. Dipping and doing, you know, period. But, yeah, I think. Yeah. And there are a lot of Michaela haters, because I'm even in my apology, there was a lot of people in my apology who were like, oh, Trisha, you're such a nasty woman. And then there was a lot of people that's like, oh, well, yeah, deserves it.

[Oscar]

Made me more uncomfortable than anything. Like, I didn't want it. Like, people were agreeing with me, but using that as an excuse to be, like, nasty to Michaela. And I was like, no. Like, I. This was not my intention. I'm not trying to board the Michaela hate train.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I bought a ticket by accident. Like, let me get off at the next stop. Like, I. This is not what I wanted to be a part of.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Anytime I've talked about her, I feel like I'm usually pretty neutral. I don't agree with everything she does. No. But I. I view her almost like you. Like, there is an entertainment factor to her. I don't think compared to the other influencers out there who are just really like, transphobic, misogynistic, homophobic. Like, I got bigger Fisher fight.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Michaela and the mascara and the found. You know what I mean? So.

[Harry Daniels]

But she's doing just fine. I was looking at her views yesterday on Tick tock and like, 6 million, 7 million, like, killing it.

[Oscar]

The. Like. All I was trying to say is, I. It would have been better for me if I perceive without the distractions, because even without seeing it like that, I just saw the products first. But I understand that's Michaela style, and it wasn't like a personal slight against her and her situation at all. And I felt bad.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, I think it's valid. Like I said, when you put something out on TikTok, no matter what it is, people will talk about it. Analyze that. TikTok has 20 million views. You know what I mean? And it's like, a valid thing. And it sucks as an influencer. That's why I told her, like, an influencer. Like, you can't watch stuff about yourself. And it's just part of it. It's part of the reason she's popular. Like, good or bad people are talking.

[Oscar]

About it is part of it. I think my responsibility, though. And that's why I do apologize to Michaela, because I think they're like, obviously, you're a public figure. Yes, criticism and stuff comes with it. But I also do think a lot of people lack, like, sensitivity about talking about things. And I feel like that's what I lack. Like, in the moment, I thought I was conveying it the right way, but then looking back, I. I saw how, like, I came across very judgmental and insensitive, which wasn't what I wanted to put out there. So that's even like. And also, this is me separate, because I didn't even know that you talked to her at all. This is just me looking at myself and seeing how Michaela saw it. And I was like, you know what? She gagged Me a bit. And she was fine for that. She was valid for that. Like this is me separate from you as well.

[Harry Daniels]

To clarify watching your Instagram story, because it was after. We did not Loveline. We did like six episodes. We did one just Church. We did six episodes, not Loveline. We were. I was going from 9am to 9pm in the tightest ponytail in the world. So when we were done, Mo was like, oh, did you see the Michaela thing? So then I was watching it and so I was on a high from filming all day, so I was like, really good. So in my apology, I was like, also before, here's my purse. And everyone's like, why are you showing this person for an apology? Because we were just talking about it. We were talking about this leopard bag and we were gonna buy it. I know, sorry.

[Moses]

But that's exactly.

[Oscar]

Yes, exactly.

[Moses]

You just did what you did.

[Oscar]

Yes, exactly.

[Harry Daniels]

Well, first I like sponsored by ysl. I paid for this bag in my sleep. I was like, how did I buy this bag while I was sleeping? Like, I don't even. But yeah, but that's what I'm saying are very similar. Look, I'm not, I'm not about. I'm not above.

[Moses]

The thing is that we were trying.

[Harry Daniels]

To get our pregnancy announcement sponsored by clear blue.

[Oscar]

Oh my God.

[Harry Daniels]

They were like considering it, like back and forth for so long and then ultimately like, oh no. They said no. Cuz I'm like, can we announce? Should we be waiting for clear blue? And they're like, no. And we use clear blue all the time. Not sponsored by. I showed every pregnancy has a clear blue.

[Oscar]

And influences are crazy.

[Harry Daniels]

It was our third baby.

[Moses]

I mean, we do this show really for the, for people like Michaela in that moment, you know, she's going through so much. And this show is really an escape, you know, when people want to just tune in. Escape. So when I saw her story and she was crying, you know, I felt really bad. I was like, that was never the intention. I was like, I wanted to respond to her, but obviously you're the person that connected to her. All I'm saying is like, you know, it's hard, like you try to have a show that's purely entertainment, doesn't hurt anyone. So we usually talk about people that are like a listers, they're not watching.

[Oscar]

The show or Harry Jobsy, who we just dislike.

[Moses]

But sometimes there's that moment when somebody that actually does watch the show. And that's why when I saw her story, I immediately told you, like, write to her or something. Like, I just. It just felt bad. I didn't want her to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cheers.

[Moses]

And we look at it as like, you know, we analyze the influencer world. How did they operate? What did they do? We never said anything about Cody, too. We never talked about him, about the relationship. We're just looking at, like, how does influencers go about the world and what do they do?

[Harry Daniels]

No, and I feel. I feel awful.

[Moses]

That's all it was.

[Harry Daniels]

Because it's so awful. Because he was kind of like, of course he consented, but, like, he has plucked from, like, this world of, like, not influencing, but also, like, being in a sober house. She said when she met, like, all this crazy stuff. So don't go from that to famous to your wedding. Publicized all this stuff. Now this being publicized, like, I feel bad for him too, obviously. He said he's like, you can share my story and stuff like that, but. But it is such a weird thing. Social media is just a weird thing that we live in where everyone just, like, can view you and criticize you. And I felt. I felt awful when I watched her crying in her room alone. I've been there. And I was like, holy. That's like, yeah. And yeah, very valid to feel that way. Cause nobody wants to hear anything about themselves. Good, bad, like, or bad or criticism, whatever. It just doesn't ever feel good, especially about something so sensitive. And like I said, she seems to today. Her Instagram story was she's about to slay all day. And I texted her that too. I was like, girl, I'm gonna slay all day too, per your Instagram story. I said that. I was like, we're the influencer. Yeah, I'm gonna slay too, girl. And I love that about her. I love that you can have a mental breakdown the night before, and then the next day you're like, I'm slaying all day. And that is the beauty of it. And I think that's. That's she queen. That's it, period. Like, I'm better today, and that's totally okay and wonderful.

[Moses]

I'm looking forward to see a picture of you guys together. I hope so.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, she did give me her number. I was like, if you're comfortable sharing and get you VIP side stage, whatever you want to do, like, yeah, she's. She's sweet. And then I was like, yeah, if you have a minute to say hi, I'm like, I was shook. I was so shook. I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I would have never even known she was coming to the show or watching or anything. And I love her. And anyone who ever feels slighted by us on the podcast, I'm happy to be like, oh, I see it. But we try to keep it cute. I mean, if they're, like, awful.

[Oscar]

Yeah. That's why especially I feel like Michaela. I just. I don't dislike her. So that's why I care. If I genuinely did not think they were, like, a good person or if I think they were. Intentions were bad, I honestly wouldn't care to be like, okay, go off. Like, if it was like, I mean, like, Gabby and Clayton, you know?

[Harry Daniels]

Right, right.

[Oscar]

So tie it back. Like, she didn't care because she did something. He did something terrible there. Like, I would have that energy, but because I do, I don't dislike Michaela.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And I think she is in the right here. That is. That's kind of it. But if it was Harry Jowsey, I guess it'd be a little different, obviously. But. But maybe. I don't know. Maybe I feel bad for Harry. Josie, too. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think you're his side.

[Moses]

It'd be interesting that we'll see a story from him that he watches. Just Trish crying.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

I would feel bad, actually. You know what?

[Harry Daniels]

He might be going through something. Maybe he had trauma in his past and that's why he's acting the way he does. And I didn't know that.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Treat everyone as if they have trauma in their past.

[Oscar]

That's a good moral of the story.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Okay. All right, you guys. Coming up next, we have our guest of honor, Harry Daniels. Not jousty. I was about to say jazzy.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. Scared me for a second.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, I did, too. I was thinking Harry. Jazzy. He's coming in with his hot takes and his latest celeb adventures. Love adventures. Let's see who he's talking to. Yeah, let's get him in here. We'll be right back. All right, you guys, back, back, back. Harry Daniels is back. We're back from our break, and Harry Daniels is here with Barry wearing New York Knicks. Are you going to the Knicks game soon, my friend?

[Trisha Paytas]

Mason, Just when we were in London, Barry's been wearing the same pajamas for, like, God, like a few years now at this point. In any way, he has worn those.

[Harry Daniels]

Since he's been here.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is the first time you've seen him in the Knicks outfit?

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's been wearing the pajamas for a while. And my friend gave him a Knicks outfit and so like. Yeah, he's really into basketball now because of it.

[Harry Daniels]

Love that in his athletic era.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he wants to be like a pro athlete.

[Harry Daniels]

How are you doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm doing so good. How are you?

[Harry Daniels]

What are you in LA for?

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I'm like, I had to sign NDA for this. I had to come out for a filming and then Coachella's in like two days or something.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, you're wearing Coachella.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. And so I was like, here we go. Like going home to New York for like a week and then flying back. It's like a six hour flight. Have you been on tour? Like tour of a lifetime. Oh my God. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Literally, I should have had the Lifetimes tour. Me and Katy Perry. The Lifetimes of Trish tour is coming next. Yeah, I've been on the airs. Are you going to be in New York next week?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'm going to go. You're going to Ray.

[Harry Daniels]

Yay. Yeah. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just texting me about it.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, perfect. I was just going to ask you if you wanted to come.

[Oscar]

Yay.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. Because you are Mr. New York. So you're flying back then you're going to come back for weekend two?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, wait, am I coming back for weekend two? Wait, no, I'm not coming back for weekend two. I'm going just weekend one and then I'm coming back here, I think in like three weeks or something because I have to do another filming.

[Oscar]

A re. Filming.

[Harry Daniels]

Can you give us a hint? A TV show? A movie?

[Trisha Paytas]

Reality show. It's Disney. It's always Disney. Like literally it's always Disney. Yeah, it's always Disney.

[Harry Daniels]

Wait, really? Do you work with Disney before? How do I not know this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Unlike certain projects. Cause the thing with Disney is they handle a bunch of studios kind of. So it's like when I did. So it's like Timothee Chalamet, complete unknown, is technically Disney. Cause it's under Searchlight and that's like a Disney subsidiary. I play the harmonica for it.

[Harry Daniels]

Or like, were you like in partnership for it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that one was sort of just like. That was a really strange one. I can't even lie. It was like half partnership, half not. Cause like they're like, they didn't want to like go to Timothy's team because like he was denying like everything and so they didn't want to.

[Oscar]

Right.

[Harry Daniels]

I felt like he was everywhere because he did the Brittany Broski. He was on YouTube.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it wasn't he was denying necessarily, but it Was sort of more of like, it was very curated by him vibes. And so, like, they didn't want to run it by him, have it be this whole thing. And then like, day of. Because that happened to me before with someone where it was like. Like, I pulled up and I was there and then the person pulled up like, hey, are you ready to do this? I don't want to do it anymore. When I did something and it was like, yeah. So it's like you sometimes, like, people.

[Harry Daniels]

Are get like, really strange with that stuff, doesn't it? You prepare for it and then like, no. Are you preparing for anyone at Coachella? Do you have it set up?

[Trisha Paytas]

I have Gaga, right? A girl. I wish.

[Harry Daniels]

No, no. We're going to see you singing to Gaga for sure. Mark my words.

[Trisha Paytas]

I heard when it comes to the music, she doesn't do it. She's not do it. Like, you have to. You have to find her.

[Harry Daniels]

But that's what I'm saying. You find people. That's what you do. You bombard them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, like Ambush, right? It's not out of the question. Nothing's out of question. Because, like, last question. I knew no Katy Perry was going, and then like, here I am posted with Katy Perry.

[Harry Daniels]

That's what I'm saying. I think you're gonna be singing. What song would you sing to Gaga?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Like, I love Alejandro. That's like one of my favorite Gaga songs.

[Harry Daniels]

Very random. You wouldn't even do a new one. Like, Abracadabra.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like my. Yeah, that's a good one. No, I'd probably like, shallow. My. My friend told me this really funny thing. They're like, you know, if you sing to Gaga, she's like, you're so brave.

[Harry Daniels]

You're so brave is the best one.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're so brave. I love that little monster.

[Oscar]

Awesome.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

She would kind of live for you, I think. I think she would, like, love you. You got to find a way to get to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know I met her once when I was like, 14. But, like, for two seconds.

[Harry Daniels]

And she loved you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was like, can I have a picture? And she just stood there. I was like, where were you, though?

[Harry Daniels]

Like, what's the context?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like a random nose, like, literally outside of, like, a talk show. Like Stephen Colbert for A Star Is Born. I remember that. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

You think that should be more prepared for. I'm like that at airports. I'm always like. Because I'm always, like, rushing to something. Something like that. But she should be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do People like, well, do people like, no, she was prepared. She just like, literally. I mean, like, I got her. It's like sometimes when people. Do people ever come up to you and you're like, I wish you would just take a photo and walk away? Or like, no.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, wait, as opposed to what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, opposed to like literally sitting and having like a 20 minute conversation?

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, for sure. Like airports. Because you're always like rushing. And so I'm always just like, like, let's take a photo. Or I have a micron. But I mean, I'm not Lady Gaga. Like, I think if I was on a plane, bus, another plane, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, then it's a different story.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like with her, it's probably like really heavy because people who are like really into her, like, they have a lot of like emotional stories. So can you imagine, like every five seconds, like someone comes up to you and you're like, and I was going through my divorce when I heard manicure and that's what stopped me from.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, like, you know, I do love those stories. Like at a meet and greet is always. I like him in general. But yeah, rushing through an airport with kids could be a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? No, like, for sure. Like that. But like, and like, also just like a lot of like wear and tear. I think on like, you're like, do you remember when Justin Bieber canceled all those meet and greets like a few years ago? Oh yeah, he canceled all these meeting greets few years ago. And he's like, it's too heavy on like my spirit. Because people would probably walk into the meeting. Like, imagine like, literally you have to stand there for 45 minutes and every five seconds someone comes up to you. I was gonna myself, but then I listened to like baby and I like, I didn't.

[Harry Daniels]

So I love it. Like, I love it because I'm like, oh, that's like so no, like same.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I just like, for a lot of people, I understand what would be like taxing.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, some people say that. Some people, I think Chapel, Chapel, like.

[Oscar]

She stopped doing meet and greets for that reason too. Because it was like, it was too much for her emotionally, which I get.

[Harry Daniels]

I can get trauma dump for sure. But when people jumping on me with my kids or something. Melbourne, like, who was that? Like a friend. Because it's like they just sit spare their whole life story and then it's just like, okay, it's a friend. I don't, I don't mind a trauma dump. And people always apologize ahead of Time like sorry for this trauma dump. And I'm like, it's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like the trauma dumps. Cuz like okay. At that point I'm like, okay, like you're like opening up. You're having a conversation. Like I'm here for it. I want to hear what you have to say. Vibes. Yeah, but like I'm awful at small talk. Like Madeline is my sister, but she's also my manager and a huge part of her job is having conversations for me because like I'm actually capable of having conversations.

[Harry Daniels]

You need to just come with me to have conversations with me. I'm not great at conversations either, but I'm a trauma dumper so I love a trauma dumper back so I can understand it. I'm like, yes, get it all out. I trauma dump on anyone. We're gonna, you know, any meet and greet we go to, I'm gonna trauma dump for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

My. I'm trying to think what are my trauma dumps. It's like kind of really random stuff. Like her like H e R. Like I love her music and she just followed me on Instagram and like I have to like, like stop myself from dming her and being like, you don't know this but in 2021 I was in a situationship and I listened to your self titled album every day. It's like girl, what?

[Harry Daniels]

No, people love you. I told you. Like Bow and Yang loves you. Like people like they actually do love you. They think you're like iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

So yeah, I think you're, you're the one who's iconic.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh my God, stop. We're kind of icons together, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, when I was at Wicked, I literally kept going to be. I'm like, you don't know this but Trisha Paytas is over there in. They're like. I was like, I was like guys. I think I literally, I was like guys. I was like cuz like there's so many people I know who I know love you. I was like, trisha's like right there.

[Harry Daniels]

I'm dead.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's literally like no. When I came up to Levy, I literally came up. I was like, I literally walked up, was like le. Trisha's right there. I was like, you need to go say hi.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh my gosh. What was that? The Wicked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Wicked. I was like, cuz I got know she loves you.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Yeah. That was exciting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like yes. I was like, yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Like she has to thank you by the way for always pitching us to everybody. We haven't heard back from Benny Blanco, he pitches to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll text him. I'll send him a text.

[Harry Daniels]

I love that you text him.

[Trisha Paytas]

That one was weird because it was like I was at a Coachella party, and I've never been lactose intolerant before. Like, I've never had an issue with lactose. And anyway, I kept. They had these, like, ice cream bars, and I kept eating the ice cream bars, and he stops me and he's like, harry. Like, it's our first time meeting, by the way. He's like, you're gonna everywhere.

[Harry Daniels]

Benny Blanco said that. The first thing he said to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, we'd spoken for, like, two minutes prior. And so, like, he sees me, stops me because I keep getting ice cream bars. Like, these are too good. And he's like, you're gonna everyone. I was like, that's never been a problem.

[Oscar]

He's a girl's girl.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Do you know you were lactose?

[Trisha Paytas]

I wasn't lactose until that day.

[Harry Daniels]

And so anyway, manifested it for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That night I was like, yo, what the. When I got back to my Airbnb. And so then every time I'd have, like, ice cream after that, like, oh, my God. Like, it was like, I triggered me so bad.

[Harry Daniels]

Benny knew.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And so I DM'd him months later, and I was like, I hope you know you cursed me that day.

[Harry Daniels]

And he said.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was like, oh. We started DMing and stuff. And then, like, yep.

[Harry Daniels]

A little friendship with him, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I have to introduce him to Barry.

[Harry Daniels]

Never met before. Maybe you'll see my Coachella.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, my God. I actually literally almost brought him to Coachella, and I was like, if he gets dusty, like, dustier than he is.

[Harry Daniels]

You can clean them. Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. You know, the problem is a lot of his fur is, like, matted now because it's been, like, 14 years, and it's like. Yeah. So he's, like, been through a lot.

[Harry Daniels]

Poor Barry. He looks great, though, right? What other icons have you seen or what have you been doing? You've been filming for Disney.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. You know what actually happened? I literally. I met with my agents about this yesterday. Oh, my gosh. I literally know your agents.

[Harry Daniels]

You don't have to say I'm out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Loud by, like, with uta. I'm with.

[Harry Daniels]

Were you always with them? Congrats.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I've been with UTA for, like, the last year. Because you know what? The thing is, when I actually. When I signed to, like, all the agencies, because, like, I've told you about this, this, my end goal was always music. Like, I, like, I do not give a about being an influencer. Like, that's the thing. That's why I feel like I, like, I don't have that. Like, you have a relationship with your audience that, like, I, I just don't have in the sense. It's like, I don't talk to like, the Internet.

[Harry Daniels]

But they would love to hear you. You should talk more. They love when you're on here. Like, people love to hear you talk.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. You know what the thing is? I think it's more of like, when you start talking to the Internet, people will start having unrealistic expectations of you. Like, does that ever happen to you? It's like people in your comments are like holding you to a standard that like, is uncomfortable.

[Harry Daniels]

We were talking about that right before he came in was like the Michaela, her recent, you know, Michaela on TikTok. Yeah, yeah. People really hold her to a very high stand. Like, well, you're an influencer, so this is what you should get, you should expect.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? And like, for me, I just, like, I struggle with that. Like, I, like, when I like started doing all this, like, my biggest inspiration was like, Dua Lipa. It's like one of my biggest inspirations. And she's like, known for like, she doesn't, she doesn't give you, like, she won't give you that interpersonal relationship, but she'll give you like, she'd rather work like three times harder to get to the same destination as someone who like, will be like, hey guys, like, my agent was telling me, like, you should start vlogging. And I was like, girl, cuz no one wants to see me go to Coachella. Hey guys, I'm walking around the Artist Village right now. Oh my God, is that Katy Perry? I just feel like for me, it's like one of those things where I'm like, I like to come on here and like talk about it. But then like, I, like, I need that separation because it's like I, I'm a really anxious person.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

As well. And so like, I need it to be like, on certain terms as well. So it's like I would rather share things and have it come out in the music. So I was talking to UCA about that. Like, you need to start documenting that process so people know it exists. So like, that's literally been like my entire brain for like the last like, like literally since like the top of the year. Because I finally had time off at the end of the Year because like I'm constantly like do you guys remember last year I was literally every five seconds I was here, New York.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so like I finally had time where I was in one place for more than like a week. And so I had like literally just like I like lived in the studio for like a few months. And so I like did a bunch of stuff and now I have to like finish it. But I had a meeting with my agents about it. Cuz they're like, you should like. I gave them the timeline cuz something's supposed to come out in like July. But now I'm like I don't know. So I'm like. Cuz they're like you need to polish everything. Because like I look at like someone like Addison Rae who like came from the same like so.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Origins. Right. I'm like okay, well it's like people took it serious because it was really good. Like it was the full package.

[Harry Daniels]

Or like Max Martin, right? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or like even like like Alex Warren. It's like it's really good.

[Harry Daniels]

No, he's gonna be on like Jimmy Fallon tonight. I was like wow, Jimmy Fallon Arenas. Like right? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like cuz it's like, it's that. Yeah. So like they literally were like don't come unless you read somebody.

[Harry Daniels]

Well he also 5,000 times a day of his song, which I don't think is a bad thing, but maybe he just. Every one is just like. You know, you just hear over and over again and it's so good. I love it. Yeah, you have to just post your song over and.

[Oscar]

But you haven't even.

[Harry Daniels]

You haven't released any yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I released like one song and it was like literally when I was with my old PR firm and like literally the promo I literally only released because everyone around me was like you need to release something. And it was like so horrible.

[Harry Daniels]

The song was bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was just like one of those things where like I like, I just like I. When you put me against like a timeline, it's like I'm gonna get stressed and I'm like gonna procrastinate to last minute and then it's gonna come like really?

[Harry Daniels]

Did we talk about this on Hot Topics or we're talking about where it's like sometimes like the push like the PR around a song. Were we talking about this?

[Oscar]

Oh yeah. With like Brittany Broski. Because she kind of just like surprise released but like didn't do too much like promo around it.

[Harry Daniels]

You need like a hype. You need to like Hype it and go on tours and promote it and stuff like that. I think maybe you didn't do that enough because I didn't see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, literally no one saw it. I was like, it's out.

[Harry Daniels]

Bye.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because, like, one of my favorite things, one of my favorite people in the world is Ice Spice. Like, I've talked about this a million times. We love her too.

[Harry Daniels]

She's great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every time she drops, it's like, it's out. Bye. And I'm like, queen. And like, I was like, yeah. Like, I'm like, I get her. But now I'm like, well, babe, that doesn't work for you. Like, you have to have the same.

[Harry Daniels]

I put up one clip and I'm like, there. You won't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I'm one of those people. It's like, even like, when I started doing the whole like, can I sing for you? Series, I was so scared of being cringe that I was like, if. I bet if I'm so cringe that it's like the inverse, then it's like, I'm like. It's like anti cringe almost. It's like so inherent.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, you're scared. You should lean into your cringe. I mean, because your content is that and mine is too. You know what I mean? The cringe factor is what people like about you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm like, learning now. It's like I almost, like, I've started to view it as like a show in the same way. I was like, when I, like, I was thinking about this the other day, I'm like, well, Selena Gomez is really popular and like, she came from a show. Like, technically, like, my TikTok presence is no different than, like a show that, like, she put on. Like, does this make sense? Yeah, like, can I sing for you is my Wizards of Waverly Place?

[Harry Daniels]

It's Montana.

[Trisha Paytas]

Montana.

[Harry Daniels]

Guys, are you gonna say, did you. Are you asking now can you sing it or you're asking her?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Wait, what?

[Oscar]

That's the name of his show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, Wizard Place is her show.

[Harry Daniels]

Can I sing for you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sing for you is my Wizards of Waverly Place.

[Harry Daniels]

Can I sing for you is the name of your show?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, because, like, got it. A lot of times people come to me like, are you the guy that sings people on TikTok? Like, guy who sings people on TikTok is my show.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, got it. I thought, can I sing for you? As your show there.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like you have two titles.

[Harry Daniels]

The guy that sings for you or can I sing for you? Is the name of your show?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like TikTok singer, what's your ass?

[Harry Daniels]

Can I sing for you? I was like, you can if you want. Go for it. What's the Wizards of Waverly Place theme song?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you know, Everything's gonna be a priest.

[Harry Daniels]

Wait, you don't know the words?

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything is not what it seems when you can get all you want in your wildest dreams Everything is not. Do you know the words?

[Harry Daniels]

I just know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Yeah, this is like one. This is like one of. This is like, right? This is like literally. This is like when I came on and we didn't know who was on Mount Rushmore.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh my God. Did we talk about that? Still have no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's literally the example Madeline. Cause Madeline helps. Like, anytime I do something with anyone, I'm like, literally. I'm like, you should go on the Trisha Paytas podcast.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. What happened? Why don't. How come it's not happening? What do they say? Are they just like. No, they're like, what was happening?

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of times it goes through, like teams and channels and stuff. No, it's like sometimes it's like pictures don't even get to the person. Like, I literally remember, oh, my God. This happened to me recently. I did a video with someone and they were saying, like, we met up and I was like, excited to see them, blah, blah, blah. And anyway, like, they basically were saying, like, you know, it's so funny that, like, we ran into each other because I literally told my label I wanted to do something with you, and I was just in New York and it just like did not happen. Like, they didn't contact contact you at all. I was like, nope.

[Harry Daniels]

Right, Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like it literally doesn't even make it to like the person to like sit or approve it. Like, that's the thing. It's like that happens in my own career. Like, I try to be very hands on with certain things. But, like, you have someone. Like, like when I did my thing with Tate McCray, it was like legit. Like she herself, like, I literally don't know. Tay McRae. I've spoken to her like, maybe once and like, that was the day I spoke to her. And like, I like, ask her, I'm like, do you want to like, do a video? Because, like, it was like a whole year long chase with that girl. Like, not even her. It was her team. Like, oh my gosh. Anyway, I'm like, oh, do you want to do it her Manager's like, no, no, no, not right now. Not right now. Like, that man is crazy.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that man is, like, legit crazy.

[Harry Daniels]

Who said that? How do you know she said that? Or you're just assuming she said that?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, like, I saw the vid. Like, it's like on video. Like, it's on tape. Like, I posted this. It's like, literally, it's like, I'm like, do you want to do it now? And then she's like, she looks at her manager and he's like, no, no, no, not right now.

[Harry Daniels]

Did you post it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I posted it. Yeah. I didn't care. I was like, all right. I was like, well, then that's the video, I guess.

[Harry Daniels]

That man is crazy. That's kind of iconic because, like, for.

[Trisha Paytas]

A year they were like, edging me with it. They were like, I. Yeah, like, are you gonna be here at this time? And so then every time we'd be in the same city, it'd be like, they'd go, so, like, hey, I'm in the same city. Like, do you guys want to do something?

[Harry Daniels]

Right, right, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because think of someone like that. It's like, it's very hyper curated where it's like, not worth it.

[Harry Daniels]

You got a video with her, so it's kind of worth it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it was like, it wasn't obviously the video that, like, I wanted, but it's like, who cares? It's like, whatever.

[Harry Daniels]

A video, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. It's like, let me count my blessings. But it's like, yeah, no, like, she herself is fine. It's like her, like, team is like, very.

[Harry Daniels]

It's always. Yeah, always the team around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like. Yeah. So it's like, that tends to be like the biggest problem a long time.

[Harry Daniels]

Are you going to be at a house this weekend?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. What happened was I have a brand deal with Revolve, and so they got me a hotel room.

[Harry Daniels]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm really excited for it. They got me a hotel room. But the thing is, whenever I go to Coachella, I'm literally one of those people, like, can't be alone for, like, more than five minutes.

[Harry Daniels]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I can be alone, but the problem is, like, I love being alone. I love to be alone too. But the problem is, like, I sit on my phone for like 20 hours. Like, when I was in London recently, like, Madeline literally had to kept. She had to keep telling people, like, if we don't make him do things, he's not gonna leave his room. And like, that's.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, I see. So you. You need Someone to, like, stimulate you to get you out. I get that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And so, like, the thing is, like.

[Harry Daniels]

Are you in London for.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was supposed to go see. Okay. This was never, like, a guaranteed thing, but it was, like, one of those things. Like, I was gonna go sing to the Pope, but then, like, he got really sick, and so we canceled, like. Yeah, we canceled it because, like, how.

[Harry Daniels]

Are you gonna get that? That's insane. That's. What were you gonna sing to the Pope?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love you, Jesus.

[Oscar]

And I'm not kidding.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not kidding.

[Harry Daniels]

I would have.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were gonna surprise you with it. And then, like, he started getting really sick, and so the whole thing got, like, kind of canceled because, like, I. It would've been a really poor taste to go up to the Pope when he's, like, on his, like. Like on his deathbed, you know what I mean, and start singing.

[Harry Daniels]

I think he's recovered. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see the recent photo of him?

[Harry Daniels]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

I'm not up with it.

[Oscar]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone sent it to me, and he's not. Yeah, he's not doing great. But, yeah, we were gonna try and do something with the Pope, and then, like, it just didn't really.

[Harry Daniels]

That's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? It didn't. It didn't pan out.

[Harry Daniels]

That's okay. I love the thought, the idea always with you, because you always post in group chat. You're always like, okay, I'm gonna get you with this person. It was like, the thought does count. You know what I mean? The fact that you pitch is so hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, the thing is, it's like, once you have one point of contact fact, it's kind of. The rest becomes easy because, like, everyone knows everyone kind of vibe. So it's like, that is one thing I've learned. It's like, girl, if I ever need to get a hold of Instagram, like, someone told me Instagram is the LinkedIn of the entertainment industry, and it's kind of true. Like, do y'all use LinkedIn or do you use Instagram to, like, connect with people?

[Oscar]

I used to use LinkedIn, but these days, more Instagram.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, yeah, Instagram for me, too. You use LinkedIn?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't have LinkedIn.

[Harry Daniels]

Who has LinkedIn? Well, I guess ask people who actually.

[Oscar]

You know, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is like, no, like, people who are corporate. Like, I'm in it. Like, we're independent contractors, so it's like we're our own bosses. But it's like, right, girl? Oh, my God. I literally sat. I've literally had to cancel like everything last two days so I could sit and dig, do my taxes. Because do you compile your expenses? Like, like when you put together your expenses, do you do it like throughout the year or do you just like literally sit there and do it?

[Harry Daniels]

I have a bookkeeper that does every month for me, period. Spending.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, like legit, girl. I need you to bookkeeper because like, I legit just like, I just do it myself. I'm like, and this was an expense.

[Harry Daniels]

Do it yourself. That's insane. I have probably like thousands of transactions a month. That'd be insane to do it myself.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's why it took me two days to sit there and just like put it together.

[Harry Daniels]

Well, good for you for doing that.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like a lot though. Like, it is a lot. I've been doing it since I was like 16 because I was. I had an ebay business when I was 16.

[Oscar]

Out entrepreneur.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, this is so funny. I. I talked about some. My canceled podcast episode that never made it to air. It was like, it was like legit. Such like a horrible episode. Like we talked about.

[Harry Daniels]

Never aired it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like I legit. Like Tana was like, yeah, cuz like we were talking about things and then we're like, oh. And then I like, literally was like, honestly. Like I was literally just like, like watching footage and I was like, honestly, the episode definitely sucked cuz we like spent.

[Harry Daniels]

You watched it?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I lived it. And it was like we spent two hours talking about like a whole lot of nothing. And so like, I literally told her. I was like. Because like, the thing is too, like, I had just gotten media training like two weeks prior. And like the whole point, the whole point of media training is like, they teach you how to answer things concisely and how to like keep a conversation flowing and blah, blah, blah. And like, girl, the media train went out the window for that episode. Like, we literally talk about anything because like, I went on there to promote like that song that had come out and then like, literally we did not talk about it. It's like, oh, yeah, I put out a song, guys. Oh, okay, cool. So what did you think about like this? And I was like, yeah. And like, we literally didn't steer it at all.

[Harry Daniels]

Like we did so on YouTube talk so much. I can't imagine you not having control of a conversation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it wasn't even like, the thing is, it's more so. So you're not stumbling over your words, vibes. I feel like that's what people don't understand about media training. It's not where it's like, they teach you how to answer a question. Like, yeah, they teach you how to answer a question, but in a concise way. So it's like, it's up to you to put the answer together. But it's not. Like, I don't think it's, like, a bad.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, everyone's like, this person. Like, the media training went out the window. Like, no, it didn't.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, and everyone on their Patreon or anything. The cancel episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

I told them they could put on Patreon, and then, like, I don't know what happened, but, like, I honestly don't really. Like. Yeah, but we were talking about. Wait, what was I talking about?

[Harry Daniels]

When you went on canceled, you were telling the story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Yes, I was talking about cancel. Yes, I remember this. See, this is like, this is literally what happened with Canceled. That's what the episode was.

[Oscar]

So fine.

[Harry Daniels]

I'm the same way. I can't remember either what I'm about to say.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I went on Canceled, and I was. I basically, the way I was paying my bills and, like, this is literally how I financed, like, do everything for, like, five years until I was actually making money from, like, social media stuff. I basically, like, would go to Urban Outfitters, and I would go to the Bargain Bin, and I would buy all the vinyls that were 4.99, and then I put them on eBay for, like, $30 wholesale. And the thing is, like, the thing is, like, especially during COVID like, you couldn't go out. Like, this was so weird. The first thing that opened during COVID like, legit wasn't restaurants. It was. It was literally Urban Outfitters.

[Harry Daniels]

Love that they were on it. They're like, we don't care.

[Oscar]

Vanessa Hudgens.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, that does fit the vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it was, like, two months into Covet, and Urban Outfitters was open. I was like, oh, wow.

[Harry Daniels]

And so we're back, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

But because, like, no more shopping store. Everything was so cheap. So, like, I would legit go and buy, like, Sabrina Carpenter album for $4, and I put on eBay for 30. When you're 16, 25, like, 10 times a day is, like $250. So it's like, I thought I was literally rich.

[Harry Daniels]

And that's when you started your taxes was.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, like. Yeah, because I got to the point where I have to report to the irs.

[Harry Daniels]

Because you're making that much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it got to that point because it was like that. And that's how I was, like, making Money. So now Urban will never discount anything to 499 because like enough people. I think they caught on to like enough people started doing it.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz now there's like a whole community of resellers on like Discord. It's like a whole thing.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, yeah. People used to like really go to like Urban and like bargain bin dive. Because the thing is, like, I wasn't gonna like. Because the thing is, it's like I was never gonna be obnoxious with it and put something up at like $500 that I got for like legit $4. But I'm like, okay, like I put it up for $30.

[Harry Daniels]

It's like, yeah, the values there. People want to see it, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, it's like a vinyl. It's not like that's the thing. It's like I hate when people go to like a thrift store and they like jack up the prices. Like that's screwed up because like thrift stores are for people who like can't.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? But it's like, okay, like a vinyl is a luxury. Like going like, girl, you're not going to f Urban Outfitters to like, you know what I mean? Because like, oh, you're on a budget.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. But you're smart. That's what people do. The collectors, they find the cheap ones and sell for what it's worth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I always say when people are doing a small business, you should like niche down. Like even like. Cause in any business you should always niche down. Because like the thing is when you're doing something that's like mass marketable, it's like there's no heart and soul to it. Like even like with my content, like, especially when I was first doing it, like I would always try to reference something that was like really obscure that like only like the true core fans would get because like that's who I was targeting. It wasn't like random people because like you tell someone like Sabrina Carpenter. And like the Sabrina Carpenter I met a year, that was the first video I ever did. And so the Sabrina Carpenter I met in 2022 is so much different from like 2023. Because like the video I did with her in 2022 was like, like that became lore for me to reference then. So it was like it became self referential. So it was like. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

And have you met her recently?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. I went to her tour though, in London. It was a really good show recently.

[Harry Daniels]

Like this. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When I was in London. That was one of the things I did. And like, the thing is like, I'm honestly like when it comes to arena tours, I'm really skeptical just cuz I'm like a lot of the problems I have with people who go on arena tours now, and this isn't even about anyone. It's like more so it's just people will do tours with the intent of making it feel like an arena tour, but rather than making a spectacle to feel like a spectacle, rather than it just inherently being a spectacle. Like when Miley Cyrus came out rolling, riding down her like, slide, that was like supposed to be her tongue. Like that's a spectacle. Like, because it's a spectacle, right? Not because they're trying to do something shocking. And so the thing, I thought Sabrina.

[Harry Daniels]

Was more of a spectacle. Trying to be a spectacle.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I thought it was like a spectacle. Like, I thought she did a good job. It was like a really well put together show. Flowed well. It wasn't too. I thought it was like a really great show.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, you like that? Because some people criticized her for only having like an hour 10 show.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's what I like. I mean, the thing is, like, she's not gonna do the Disney songs and so it's like, what's that gonna leave her with? Like album cuts? It's like, especially in the uk, like, it's such a different culture there. Like, I think for her, like, it was a really great show. I think it was short and sweet. Ha ha.

[Harry Daniels]

That's what she advertises, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it worked really well. I thought it was just like in out. Like it was straight to the point. Like, I don't like when there's filler and she shows.

[Harry Daniels]

I feel like that's mine. Our ten show, no opener.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I love.

[Harry Daniels]

Wait.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, this is my hottest take. I. I can't. I'm someone who shows up. I always try to find out when the artist goes on stage because unless the opener is someone I actually like previously care about, I won't show.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, that's not how we talk about it here. I didn't know there was openers at shows. I went to shows and I'm like, who's this person on at 7 o'clock? And they don't come on till 9 now I know that one. Coming to a show, but I was like, damn. I really was sitting there like, like an hour before the opener. Then the opener came and I'm like, yeah, I think it's. I don't think it's a Hot take. It's why I don't have openers. I'm like, people want to come see Trish, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, like, literally.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I. I don't love going to a show when there's an opener unless it's someone who I think is, like, really cool.

[Harry Daniels]

Like Rebecca Black?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Like, I love Rebecca Black.

[Harry Daniels]

I would go to the Katy Perry Lifetimes just for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Harry Daniels]

Like, I think, like, you gonna go to that tour?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Oh, I thought you. I thought you were like. Oh, I can't say.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, literally one of those things where it's like, sometimes, like, literally, things just pop up in my. Like, if there's like, a day in my. I'm like, I want to go to this. Like, literally, it's like, if I want. Like, when the Georgia Smith shows happen. I love Georgia Smith. And, like, she's like, okay, it's this one R B singer. And anyway, she played, like, the night I came back from London, I was literally just like, eh, I'll see what I feel like doing when I land. I was tired, so I didn't go. So it's like, literally one of those things. It's like, it literally depends on, like, my vibe. Because I don't want to, like. Like, put in the request for tickets or I don't want to buy the ticket. I don't want it to be a whole thing. And then, like, oh, he doesn't even feel like going because, like, girl, then I could have gone to someone who actually cared.

[Harry Daniels]

Do you have connections at these venues that you get to talk, see the artists, like, backstage, it really goes through.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, their teams or their labels. So it's like, when I did Wallows, it was sort of like, okay. I had sang to Dylan. We talked about you, by the way.

[Harry Daniels]

Dylan who?

[Trisha Paytas]

When I was backstage with Walls, I talked to them about you.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow. What did he say?

[Oscar]

Do you know Dylan?

[Harry Daniels]

No.

[Oscar]

You mentioned him. You got him confused with villain O'Brien.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He's the one in 13 reasons why he played Clay Jensen.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, love.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's in a band now.

[Harry Daniels]

Yes. Okay. What did he say?

[Trisha Paytas]

He loves you. Like, he likes you.

[Harry Daniels]

What did you. What did you say?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I've told you, every time I meet anyone, it's on. You should go on.

[Harry Daniels]

This is why I love you. That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I was.

[Harry Daniels]

That's why that guy called you crazy. He's like, get away from this person.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, no, that was like. He was scary. I was like, he didn't want to hear the pitch.

[Harry Daniels]

That was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Basically, though, with that, it was like, okay, I met Dylan at Coachella, and, like, I did a video with him, and then, like, people in the comments were dogpiling his girlfriend. He's like. So he reached out. He's like, hey, like, I need you to take this down. I was like, yeah, of course. Because, like, the videos are supposed to be, like, feel good. They're supposed to be fun. They're supposed to be, like, fun, like, cringy, you know?

[Harry Daniels]

What happened to the girl? What was the girlfriend doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

She walked past because she, like, didn't know that, like, she was being filmed by, like, she didn't know what was going on. And so she just kept walking or she didn't want to be in the video. Or, like, it doesn't really. She just. Whatever. She kept walking or something was like, that nasty, blah, blah, blah. And, like, girl. He was like, whoa. Because, like, they just started dating too. It was a new relationship.

[Harry Daniels]

I was like, oh, good for him, standing up for his girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, he stood up for her. And I was like, yeah, of course. And so then months later, I ran into Brayden, who's another member of the band at, like, Tenants of the Trees, this one bar I go to a lot out here. And anyway, we just, like, became friends there. Like, we were, like, talking. We became friends. And then a few months later, they're playing in my hometown. And, like, not my hometown, but, like. And I just call Long island in general my hometown, because that's where I'm from. But yeah, so they were playing in Long Island. I was like, oh, you guys are playing in Long Island? I have to go. And so then when they're like, all right, come hang out after.

[Harry Daniels]

Wow. Like, befriending all these people too.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like, that was, like, an instance where it's like. That's where it's like, okay, like, you just ask the artist directly and leave them to love you backstage.

[Harry Daniels]

What's your biggest manifestation for 2025?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Wait, you know what's so funny? Rihanna's doing okay with. My biggest manifestation for 2025 is I actually put out the music, and then it's actually gonna be, like, a thing, and it'll be good and, like. Yeah, yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. What's Rihanna doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

Rihanna's doing the Smurfs movie, and I really want to meet her, like, on the press run for the Smurfs movie.

[Harry Daniels]

Is it a new one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's playing Smurfette.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, Sha Kay Perry's. Nachos. She's Smurfette. I wonder what happened.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought Nevada was Smurfette at one point, too.

[Harry Daniels]

Damn. They're changing it around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's a good. It's a pop girl rite of passage to do Smurfette.

[Harry Daniels]

I love that Rihanna's like, no music, but I'm gonna do a Smurf movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she's doing music for the Smurfs movie. Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, that's gagged. Oh, my God. Do you get invited to, like, the Ariana events that influencers are going to?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, no. Like, I got Ariana Wicked. And that was, like, the weirdest thing that has ever happened because she knew who I. Okay. Like, I ran into her friend Courtney, and she's like, we love you. I was like, oh. And then, like, I met her later that night, and she knew exactly who I was, and I was like, yeah. Like, this is crazy.

[Harry Daniels]

But you didn't get invited to the influencer event that everyone was at. Did you see? It was like, Das Mendoza was there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw that. But I was like, okay. Like, one, I kind of just did it with Ariana. And two, like, I would have lost love to sit and have a conversation with her, but, like, I literally definitely would have sat there and been like, okay, I think about this all the time. Like, Ariana Grande. Like, I would, like, literally, like, if I had to spend a day. Like, no one could survive a day in that girl's shoes. Like, one. I feel like people are. I've talked about this before with her. People are always projecting Ariana Grande. People. Were they projecting their divorce trauma onto her, like, two years ago, and then, like, all of the, like, horrible stuff happened to her from, like, that 2017 to, like, 2020 stretch. It's just, like, a lot.

[Harry Daniels]

It's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then people get, like, so weird. Like, Paige Neiman, like, you're a freak. Like, girl, stop it. Because it's like, okay, it was one thing when you're being a person here, but then you sit and you go and, like, make a only fans, and.

[Harry Daniels]

You'Re like, oh, true girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's weird.

[Harry Daniels]

Like, yeah, yeah. Don't use the likeness for some adults content. Right?

[Oscar]

That's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. No. And so, like, with that, like, with Ariana Grande, like, I literally probably would have sat there and, like, literally just started crying. Like, I feel so bad for you because people are so weird to you.

[Harry Daniels]

She probably would be very. I feel like she's, like, into trauma dumpers. I feel like she'd be Empathetic to it. She'd be, oh, for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it wouldn't even be my trauma dumping. It'd be like, me trauma dumping about her trauma too. Like, what?

[Harry Daniels]

I love Ariana, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I really love her.

[Harry Daniels]

We didn't get invited either, but maybe the next one.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you guys were too ahead of your time.

[Harry Daniels]

I think so. You're right. Ten years from now, we'll look back and be like, wow, why aren't they at the REM beauty event?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, honestly, sometimes it's like, really random things. It's like when I got invited to the People's Choice Awards, I saw, like, Rolling Stone was talking about that recently. I was like, how are we still on? The sky is like gay son thought daughter on a red carpet. I was like, who? I was like, no, it's so funny. Because I'm like, no one but journalists are talking. Yeah, it's, like, funny. I did this one podcast, and it, like, legit was like, oh, my God. She asked me about it, and then it was like. I was like, this is a really dated question. I'm so mad I did that damn podcast. It was Sophia with an F. And, like, I've actually been, like, literally waiting for it to go on a podcast so I can sit and dog on this girl. I'm literally like, this is why I might know. This is, like, air. It aired, and here's the problem with it. So I did. It was promoting that. I did it in advance to promote that one song. I put out that, like, literally, like.

[Harry Daniels]

What is the song giving? You said the title of the song.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was called I'm Him. It was like, legit non event.

[Harry Daniels]

I'm Him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but it was. I was clearly. You weren't, girl, you have to know.

[Harry Daniels]

You clearly were.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like, okay, I put out this song, right? And so I, like, was talking to my team, and the thing is, like, this is. This is on me. Because, like, I would literally turn something in, and then I would, like, send it to someone, and they'd be like, you should change this. I'm like, they're right. And then I would legit have to change the font.

[Harry Daniels]

Listen to too much outside curses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, I'm like, literally one of those people. It's like, like, I like one thing about me. Like, I, like, literally constantly need, like, validation. So anyway, I basically. Yeah, so I do this podcast. Like, the single podcast. I did. No, I did that. And I think I did, like, Zach Sangers. I promote it.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, wow. You were making the rounds.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those are the two podcasts I didn't promote Anyway, so we delay the song back a month. And so they're like, okay, well, then, like, we. We're gonna air this when we air it. And then, like, they reach out in January, like, hey, we're airing this. I was like, girl, like, we moved on from the song. Like, don't air it. Like, it's just, like, it's a bad, dated interview. It's like, if. Like, if someone interviewed you, like, at that point, it's like, six months, Especially in, like, Internet time. Like, girl, that's like, oh, my God.

[Harry Daniels]

We've held, like, for a couple months when I was, like, pregnant, but six months. And that's a long time, right? This is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like, yeah, I think I filmed in August. And, like, she was like, I'm gonna air this now in, like, mid January or something.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like, six months. And so I was like, scrap it. And she wouldn't scrap it. And I was like, girl, like, she wouldn't know. She ignored everyone's requests to scrap. Like, mad. I reached out like, hey, like, this actually can't go up till a later date until, like, we, like, figure out, like, what's going. What the hell is going on in Harry Lander, girl? She put it up, and it was just like. It was annoying because I was like, girl, I didn't give you a good interview. And so it's like, yeah, what are you doing? I'm like, oh. Like, I like coming on here because, like, I feel like I. Like, I can, like, be myself, obviously. Like, I come on here and I say things, and I'm like, oh, should I say whatever? Like, the viewers of just. The viewers of just Trish get what I'm trying to say.

[Harry Daniels]

We have more team today. They'll be, like, clocking it for you, getting their little notes and stuff like that. You've expanded this. Congratulations.

[Oscar]

The team is big now.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. We have four people here today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. One is Madeline, who's, like, been coming with me to everything. And then Emily, my publicist. Hi.

[Harry Daniels]

Hi.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was so funny because I. I'm, like, the worst. It's, like, literally, like, I'm the worst person. I, like, have PR because, like, I literally just do things, and I'm like, this is coming out today. And they're like, like, oh, okay.

[Harry Daniels]

You don't give not enough notice. That's why your song's not blowing up. You got.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. That's why, like, part of the biggest reason why I hired Them, like, guys, like, I need you to help me with this.

[Harry Daniels]

Well, you need to give them some notice so they know how to help you out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Believe me, they have to give them notice for that. But, like, for everything else, like, I literally said. I was like, they're like, do you want us to help and get involved? Like, the booking for Trish? I was like, no, I'll just text Oscar.

[Harry Daniels]

Oscar's my PR Only guest.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I literally, like. I literally, like, guys, like, this is the best show ever.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, this is the best show ever.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. We love. You're the best guest ever. That's why you're back. I think you're our most recurring guest probably.

[Oscar]

Honestly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

At this point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Harry Daniels]

At least three, I guess.

[Oscar]

You and Tana. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he's, like, also three times, so it's like he's. We're tied with him.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, yeah. Last time he came, he got his Build a Bear. We have our axolotl. Build a Bear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I have to get you something for the baby.

[Harry Daniels]

No, you don't have to say.

[Oscar]

I know.

[Harry Daniels]

Every time you come, you bring 10 build a bears.

[Trisha Paytas]

You've done enough.

[Harry Daniels]

Don't worry.

[Trisha Paytas]

We already thought about this yesterday, and I was sad. Build a Bear was closed.

[Harry Daniels]

Was it? Why was it closed yesterday?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because we were gonna get there, like, 7pm Because I spent all day doing, like, taxes. What else did I do yesterday? Then I took a meeting with my agents to, like, literally sit and cry about my music for, like, five hours.

[Harry Daniels]

What did they say? Are they. What are the advice they give you?

[Trisha Paytas]

They literally just, like. Like, delay it as long as you need. Which I was like, exactly. No, but it's really that meme where it's like, it'd be too dumb telling each other. Exactly, Exactly. Like, I'm waiting for someone to tell me, yeah, you should delay it so I can, like, delay it further.

[Harry Daniels]

I'm gonna give you the opposite advice. I think you need to put it out asap and you need to really get those sound promos. You need to be, like, posting 5,000 times.

[Oscar]

Sing it to Lady Gaga.

[Harry Daniels]

Sing it to Lady Gaga. Sing your song to everyone. Just keep singing the I'm him song to everybody. And someone's gonna be like, let's catch up on this, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what, like, literally happened? I did, like, this whole promo. Like, I had this whole rollout planned. And then, like, I literally just, like, me and Madeline were, like, meh about it. Like, it was just like, why you.

[Harry Daniels]

Need to hype yourself up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, the thing is like, it was just like the problem with like the release date Too was like October 18th. Okay. Like two weeks after that is Halloween. And then like right. That everything just goes immediately Christmas. So it's like I'm not gonna promote like this like whole song and then like Christmas.

[Harry Daniels]

Well, this is the time now. It's like spring, summer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know. Yeah. But like even now I'm like, I have like a, like I have like a proper team now.

[Harry Daniels]

So it's not like they're helping you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's like I can like figure it out now. Cuz the thing is like for me it's all very like about like doing things digitally. Because even like when I do and I'm definitely going to like shoot myself in the mouth when I say this. She's like, oh God.

[Harry Daniels]

In the mouth.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the foot, the foot, whatever.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. The mouth is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always get scared to do traditional interviews, like press, written interview. Because like I feel like I'll like, I'll give a good interview and then like I'll read it. I'm like, oh my God, you're like the worst person ever.

[Harry Daniels]

Like yourself.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, wait, I'm like. You literally sound like insufferable. Like if I read this, if I like. Because the thing is you have to read the interviews if it's not yourself because like if you're like a random person on the Internet who doesn't like know the context. So it's like they're always very high stress for me. So I love coming on a podcast because it's a lot more difficult for things to get taken out of context because like, well, they're surrounding footage.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, no, definitely in a print interview they can spin it whichever way. You know, they take like little clips of what you said and they'll spin it. But here you're just yourself and people love you on here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Well, I'm excited to see you in New York next week. This is so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so excited. I literally, I. When I didn't go to Broadway, I was devastated.

[Harry Daniels]

I know. Well, we didn't have access. Like we weren't controlling that. We had like producers that were controlling tickets and like. No, but I wanted you. I. That's what I literally said before you came. I was so sad. Cuz you always are so supportive when I come to the shows and at Wicked and anything like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I was just like, like happy to see you do it. And like I like, I loved the live stream. And I was. I was. It was.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, you watch live stream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, I love New York. I love it. I'm so excited to be back. Like, I really do love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like your home away from home.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, I would love to come there. Like, more full. Like, at least part. Like, more full time, part time. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, not Broadway show. Radio City show.

[Oscar]

No, I can't commute right now because I have a back injury, so I am stationary. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I found out recently? You actually know what I got. And this, like, literally is not like, okay, I like, literally, I sit on my phone all day and I go to a chiropractor and.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, I saw that on your close friends story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, my chiropractor is my favorite person on the planet. Like, I literally, like, I like. Oh, she tells me everything. I want to hear about, like, how horrible my body is. Like, yeah, you have the body of like an 80 year old.

[Harry Daniels]

I was like, you're 21. You look so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's like I look. I look fine, but, like, I'm hunched over all the time on my phone being like. And so because of that, like, it screwed up my shoulders and neck. But now I keep getting ads on my. For your page page of like, TikTok Shop, like, neck massagers. And I just bought one, so it's like, I get you. It's like, I, like, literally can't sit in like, certain positions for like, certain prolonged.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's good that you're correcting it now, though, because by the time you're my age, it's. I look at Harry like a little me a lot of the times too. I'm like, it's just my little brother Harry.

[Harry Daniels]

No, you do. Oscar loves you. I love you too. But Oscar's like Harry's Becca Tyler kid. You can always text me too. I like group chats and stuff like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I always get scared to text you because I'm like, like, I know she's busy. I'm like, girl, she's like a mother of like two, almost three now.

[Harry Daniels]

I am busy these days, but I'm still down for a text. And I am the worst texter. I will never text it online.

[Oscar]

Yeah, no, you're so fat. You're 10 times better than I am.

[Harry Daniels]

You have like 10 group chats going.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have like 2,000 unread text messages right now, guys.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, wow. That would bother me. Oh, my God, 2000's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll get to you when I get to you.

[Harry Daniels]

Exactly.

[Oscar]

At least for us. You're always.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, I'm prompt with you guys. But, like, a lot of times, Madeline will be like, hey, did you see this? I'm like, no. Literally, yesterday, they. I was reaching out because I'm supposed to do this interview at Coachella with, like, paper or something in any way. I. Emily literally texted me. She's one of my publicists. And she asked me. She's like, hey, like, this is the journalist. And I literally replied. I was like, who's the journalist? And she was like. And she repeated herself.

[Harry Daniels]

I was like, oh, oh, the journalist texted you. I've done that faux pas many times.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, like, she texted me who the journalist was gonna be, and I was like, oh, okay. Do you know who the journalist is gonna be?

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, oh, I see. Oh, it wasn't the journalist texting you.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it was like, Emily. Yeah, Emily, Madeline. They were like, okay, yeah, you have this interview with who? I was like, that's not bad.

[Harry Daniels]

At least it wasn't the journalist. I've had that happen for sure, where it's like, someone. I'm like, who the f is this person? Like, it's actually me. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I'm trying. I hate. Like, I'm really someone who's like, I need to see a visual of the person first because I've, like, literally, I'm so bad at recognizing people, which is funny because that's my whole job. But it's like, I. Like, I have to know who's who, but it's like, girl, I have the worst facial bias. I DM someone recently and I was like, hey, like, I'm coming to la. We should go out. And they're like, we've met. I was like, it's like, like, who are you? And they were like, we've met multiple times. Whoops.

[Harry Daniels]

I'm the same way. It's hard. It's hard out there. You know what Hot Topic. We forgot. I know. We're, like, running out of time. We forgot the Jojo Siwa Mickey work. Hot Topic.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Was that a hot topic or. We just talked about it.

[Oscar]

I just saw it right before we started, though. But I didn't see the full. The full. Because it was a preview for that.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, I saw that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw something about it, but then I didn't click on it. You know what's like.

[Harry Daniels]

I was like, saw it but didn't click on it. Yeah, Jojo's in Celebrity Big Brother right now. Have you been watching?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but I've heard about this. And, like, I saw the promo ad for her. I was like, queen. That's the way I. Jojo see wa. I love jojo Siwa.

[Harry Daniels]

Because you love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Like, is she. Like, is she a friend of the show or No?

[Harry Daniels]

I think so. I like her. I've always. Definitely.

[Oscar]

Trisha is banned from the JoJo Siwa now podcast, but it is she. There's an open invitation to just trip.

[Harry Daniels]

I love her. I do love her.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

She banned me, but here she's gone.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying to think, who do I literally. Oh, my God, you know who. Because keep. I keep meaning to do this podcast. I keep meaning to go on the Abby Lee Miller podcast. I love Abby Lee Miller.

[Harry Daniels]

Definitely not going to the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not another show. I, like. I think Abby Lee Miller is like. Like, she's, like, iconic. Like, you know, there's so many. There's so many moments that's like, love her, hate her. Like. Like, girl with the bad haircut. I know. You know?

[Oscar]

Of course I know.

[Harry Daniels]

Don't you think it's a little bit of child humiliation slash child abuse? Like a grown woman making fun of a child's haircut?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, but it was really funny regardless. Like, okay, like, she's my problematic fave.

[Harry Daniels]

Like, we all have Wild Tang, Harry, whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Young Abby Lee Miller. Like. Like, she's like, that's the thing about entertainers. Like, they don't have to, like. I feel like it's like, you have to be entertaining. That's the job. And I'm like, she keeps us on our toes.

[Harry Daniels]

Do you know Mickey Warwick?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know of him. I know. Wasn't he in, like, the Wrestler? Yeah, yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

He went into the celebrity big brother house. He's going in tonight, and he gets. He gets talking to. For being homophobic towards JoJo Sihua. I saw the clip where she's doing the conga line. She tells him to come in and join the conga line. And he said something like, oh, so you're like. She's like, you have a girlfriend. Yeah. He's like, well, if I stay in this house longer than four weeks, you won't be gay anymore. And she goes, no, I will be gay. I'm in a happy relationship. And then he proceeds to go, I'm voting the lesbian out. And she goes, you can't say that. It's homophobic. So then big brother has her talking to him, and big, this is homophobic. And everyone's like, yeah, you can't say that. And then he says, I need a fag. And they're like, you can't say that either. And he's like, no, a cigarette. But he was obviously referring to Jojo. So he's getting canceled for being homophobic. And. Yeah, it's in the news right now. It's a hot topic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's why he lost the Oscar period.

[Harry Daniels]

Ended homophobia with that.

[Trisha Paytas]

He lost the Oscar.

[Harry Daniels]

This Oscar.

[Trisha Paytas]

He lost two Oscars.

[Harry Daniels]

Sisters. I love that. You know the wrestler. That's so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Long ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm super into, like cinema. Cinema. Yeah.

[Oscar]

The Substance. Really early. You knew from the jump.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

Really was at the premiere. The Harry Daniel's Close Friends story. That's where I got all my team.

[Trisha Paytas]

I went on the Close Friends Story and oh my God, I literally remember when the Substance got nominated for best picture. I legit remember I gave this interview to this one publication. I was at the premiere and they were like asking me all these questions. They're like, so why are you here? And I was like, well, I actually like, I like, I love going to like, for me, I love going to per. Because, I mean, we've talked about this a million times. I will forever be fanned out.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I'll forever. Like, I. I'm not even kidding you. Like, I talk about this. I talk about every 5 seconds how much I love Ice Spice. She was at my friend's birthday party recently and I met her and I legit was like, it was like, word problem. I was like, you don't know what.

[Oscar]

You mean to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's like, what? Because it's like, it's Ice Spice.

[Harry Daniels]

She didn't. She wasn't like holding your hands be like, thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she was really nice. She's like, thank you so much. But I was like, like, I was literally active. I was meeting Princess Diana.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

She kind of is our modern day queen. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, that literally is my Princess Diana.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, I love my spice too. That's what your charm. You're 21. You're a fan of these people. Like, you know, I love that too. I love being. I love fanning out to people. That's like the best. I think if I could sing to anyone, I'd sing to My Chemical Romance. They're doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Do you know them? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love My Chemical Romance.

[Harry Daniels]

Have you ever sang?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. I want to sing to Gerard Way. Can we go together?

[Harry Daniels]

Can you tell me how, like, they're gonna be at the Dodgers stadium. They're doing a stadium tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's gonna be the Forum.

[Harry Daniels]

He was at the Forum a couple years ago, but now they're doing Dodgers this year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Harry Daniels]

Find a way for us to sing to him. For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see what I can do.

[Harry Daniels]

Okay. I love you. Love that I'm proud of you as like a young Gen Z or to know this. That's so exciting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. Yeah, I love all of that stuff. I think. I think it's. I literally was actually going through my expenses ironically and I found I sold a My Chemical Romance vinyl because, like, I was downsizing my collection. Because, guys, last year, like, I was so broke, I'm not even gonna like, sit and lie. Like, guys, I was so broke last year because I was like, literally burning money. Because, like, I had to like, like if I wanted to. Like when I like, I lost money on Coachella last year. Cuz, like, I got paid to go, but it was like, I like, what I got paid wasn't enough to cover everything.

[Harry Daniels]

Tiana's not going for this year for that reason. She like, it's so expensive.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's really expensive. And it's like they. They were really stingy with brand deals this year. So it's like everyone gets paid to go usually, but this year no one got paid to go. So it's like.

[Harry Daniels]

Right, well, you're not. You. You're going to go. You're going to lose the money again, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, this time I. This time you're.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, you have that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like. Yeah, like, I was like literally bleeding money last year and so I was like, I was literally had to sell my vinyls to like make up for things because I collect vinyl too. And so, yeah, first time I came here came with like a rare. Like, I did love it.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. Well, when you meet the weekend, he's probably gonna do press for his new movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. We were literally on the way here, we were just texting about it. We're like, yeah, how can we get involved with that? But you know what I really want to do? Not even the weekend. Jenna Ortega, because of the video, her being like, you're gay. No, actually. Oh, yeah. I am happy she did that. Do you know what? I have to pull this up and it's in my. Where's my phone?

[Harry Daniels]

Oh my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's in my recent text. I'm not even kidding you, cuz. Madeline reached out.

[Harry Daniels]

Was she young when she said it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was like a child.

[Harry Daniels]

I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, how old was she? I'm like, you're right.

[Harry Daniels]

I am happy.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's my favorite video. I'm like, how many? Yeah.

[Harry Daniels]

Would you recreate it with her? I love that you have this pulled up. Let's see. Yo. Could you imagine how crazy my English.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is my free page.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. I am very happy. Oh, period. Not the explanation after that is so trash.

[Oscar]

I love it.

[Harry Daniels]

I think that's the best ending to this interview in the whole world.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Harry Daniels]

I love you so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love you, and I'm very excited.

[Harry Daniels]

To see you in New York. I can't wait to see your Coachella.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Harry Daniels]

Gosh, I'm so excited. Gonna be just a whirlwind of fun. And thank you for always being supportive of our podcast, dude.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Knowing me, I'll be back in, like, a month.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah. When you come back, text us. I'm a bad texter. Oscar is on it. He's on the beat.

[Trisha Paytas]

So if I ever need to get anything related to just Trish, I go through Oscar. But if I need to get anything to you, I'm like, all right.

[Harry Daniels]

Yeah, you can always text me. I do try to text you back. I always try to text you because you're always equal. Yeah. Not everyone I text back, so. All right, you guys, Harry Daniels will be everywhere. He'll be at Coach Hollow this week. He'll be at Mike Show, Radio City Music hall next week. And we love you so much. Shout out Barry for being here, and shout out you for living the dream. Everyone's fan. Number one fan. We love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm literally your number one. I'm number one fan.

[Harry Daniels]

Oh, wow. Everybody's all right. We'll see you. See you soon.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll see you soon.