Aug 28, 2025

Summary

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Just Trish Podcast – August 28, 2025

Host: Trisha Paytas | Co-host: Oscar Gracey | Regular Guest: Moses

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Episode Overview

In this week’s lively, unfiltered episode, Trisha and Oscar tackle a whirlwind of pop culture happenings: Taylor Swift’s engagement, internet and celebrity gossip, wedding predictions, viral social media moments, notable relationship updates, and a splash of personal anecdotes—plus their signature, fiercely honest hot takes. Moses joins for comedic color and "psychic" predictions, leading to conversations about everything from engagement rings to viral TikTok call-outs. The energy is high, the laughs are many, and Trisha’s unabashed millennial millennial-ness is on full display.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce Engagement Drama

[04:40–18:00, 21:00–37:00]

• Announcement Reactions:

  • The engagement of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce dominates the show. Details of the proposal (confirmed by Travis’s dad, Ed Kelsey) and the meticulous fan-led timeline dissection are analyzed.
  • Oscar: "Her name is... She's got. Hello. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. Vibes are good. Pumpkin spice is flowing in my coffee, in my veins, and on my wig." [00:54]
  • Trisha: "I wanted to represent a little bit of gold for King Tut Day, but the closest I had was butter yellow. And then I also wanted to represent for Taylor for her lovely engagement." [03:18]

• Behind-the-Scenes Family Leaks:

  • Ed Kelsey over-shared proposal details on interviews—when, where, and how Travis proposed to Taylor, down to her getting “antsy” about waiting.
  • Trisha: "Ed Kelsey, I think, will be the first to leak it...I know Ed Kelsey is going to be doing some kind of radio interview and just give me all the info so I'm not stressed." [13:39]

• The Ring and Its Drama:

  • Swifties went into detective mode to ID the jeweler and ring details. Arguments over whether it was more or less expensive than Hailey Bieber’s ring ("Taylor's ring is estimated at $650,000..." [14:42])
  • Moses: "When I saw the picture, I thought it was your hand because the Cartier watch and the ring with the big diamond, it looked exactly like a Cartier watch...just had bigger diamonds, but it's the same watch." [14:02]

• Swiftian Premonitions & Synchronicity:

  • Moses claims psychic Swift dreams about the engagement and Super Bowl rumors, adding to Trisha’s own “premonition” about prepping coverage at her entertainment news day job. [05:12–17:19]

• Swift's Millennial Corniness:

  • Trisha passionately defends Taylor’s “corny” engagement post and style, saying people let projection cloud the real Swift: "We love her because she is the corny millennial...Travis Kelsey, also pretty corny." [25:04]

• Parasitic Parasociality:

  • Discussion on fandom, parasocial relationships, and how happy they were to see Swift find love so publicly: "She’s written about it. She wanted it so bad for a while. Probably thought a relationship...wasn’t for her." [26:47]

• Wedding Theories:

  • Armchair planning: speculation on venue, date ("December 13th?" [23:29]), dress, guest list, theme—debate over big vs. small wedding, invitee drama, and wedding traditions.

2. Celebrity Relationship Updates

[51:23, 54:03]

• Hailey & Justin Bieber:

  • Addressed breakup rumors fueled by fans dissecting Justin’s social posts and Hailey’s sassy emoji responses.
  • Notable quote, Oscar: "His wife is strong af. Haley be fighting for her life in that marriage every day." [53:16]

• Selena Gomez & Benny Blanco:

  • Acknowledged rumors of an imminent Selena wedding; speculated about shifting celebrity timelines and fan fiction ("blind item" about a possible Justin–Selena inspired romance movie [84:28]).

3. Social Media & Viral Moments

[108:19–124:28]

• Crumbl Cookie CEO’s Coming Out:

  • The CEO, Sawyer Hemsley, publicly came out as gay after a viral TikTok called out his “vibes” (by Grant, “A Twink in a Redhead”). Discussion on the ethics and risks of “outing” public figures, especially those with religious backgrounds. [110:32]
  • Trisha: “Projecting someone’s sexuality—just something you shouldn’t do, you know. But I get it because, also like, for me too, from my own experience, like oh, coming out wasn’t a big deal.” [111:53]

• Mr. Beast vs. Rolling Stone Viral Ranking:

  • Mr. Beast’s post grumbling about being ranked #7 (behind comedian Caleb Huron) leads to him being epically “ratioed” online.
  • Oscar: “That is so funny because I was like, I never even thought about that. Like, well, I kind of did because sometimes they're fast, but...” [18:42]
  • Trisha reads a deft Twitter explanation: “Caleb has less followers than you…but he’s hilarious, insightful, and a refreshing voice in the comedy world.” [137:24]

4. Ring Culture, Proposals & Double Standards

[34:50–44:49]

• Who Buys the Ring?:

  • Heated debates about women proposing, ring prices, and whether it’s wrong to upgrade an engagement ring (Michaela Nogueira TikTok “upgraded ring” drama).
  • Oscar: “Would it hurt your feelings if you got me a small one? And then I was like, I need a big one.” [41:50]

• Proposing Traditions:

  • Playful debate over going down on one or two knees ("I feel like instinctively, you do go to two knees.” [91:40])
  • Trisha: "I hope you do. On the both knees." [91:54]

5. Internet Drama, Club/Party Anecdotes, & Nostalgia

[61:03–67:43, 141:00+]

• Burning Man Orgy Dome:

  • Moses’s bashful tale of peeking into the infamous “Orgy Dome” at Burning Man, sparking laughs and curiosity from Trisha and Oscar. ("It’s branded. Like, it has its own Instagram page.” [61:15])
  • Trisha: “I just saw the orgy tent got blown away at Burning Man.” [59:02]

• Personal Social Anxieties/Going Out:

  • The trio reflect on rarely leaving the house at night anymore and wrestling with their own “party personas.”
  • Oscar: “I gotta do it for the plot sometimes, you know.” [64:29]

• Pop Culture Nostalgia:

  • Long tangent about “YouTube friend groups” (Sister Squad, British Invasion, OG Shane Dawson era, Vlog Squad days) and feeling left out or moving between cliques as internet careers evolve. [140:00+]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments, with Timestamps

• On Taylor & Travis's Engagement

  • Trisha: "Taylor Swift is a corny millennial, period. That's who she is. She has always been that. She loves puns, she loves dad jokes." [25:04]
  • Oscar: "You think they're getting married on a football field? Okay. Solid prediction." [32:35]
  • Moses (on ring opinion): "It's not about me. It's about you, what makes you happy." [42:42]

• On Parasocial Joy

  • Trisha: "Seeing someone who...has wanted something so...you know, she’s written about it. She wanted it so bad...for it to kind of happen, almost seemingly, like, out of nowhere..." [26:47]

• On Outing & Coming Out

  • Trisha: "Speculating and also just like projecting someone's sexuality. Just something you shouldn't do, you know. But I get it..." [111:53]
  • Oscar: "You’re not gonna turn gay if you eat a cookie. Yeah, well, I mean, it’s fine if you’re gay, though." [117:02]

• On Social Media Metrics

  • Oscar: "Never. I never think about being ratioed. I just wanna, like...I found out what this was the other day and I was like, what?" [123:09]

• On Ring Upgrades

  • Oscar: "If it was little, maybe because my fingers are so chubby, maybe I would be. I don't know." [44:15]

• On Burnout and Going Out

  • Trisha: "I haven't been out at night in a long time." [63:04]
  • Oscar: "I truly don't know if I've like, left the house at night in years." [64:35]

• On Mr. Beast Getting Ratioed

  • Trisha (reading): "'Higher follower count does not directly equate to more influence. Caleb has less followers than you...but he's hilarious, insightful, and a refreshing voice.'" [137:24]
  • Oscar: "That is so funny because I was like, I never even thought about that... I wonder why he said that. I wonder what made him tweet that." [131:17]

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Timestamps: Segment Guide to Major Topics

• 00:28 – Podcast opening banter, waist trainer jokes
• 03:18–05:08 – King Tut Day, Taylor Swift engagement kicks off Hot Topics
• 07:02–18:00 – Taylor engagement details, ring info, timeline analysis, Moses’s premonition
• 23:03–37:00 – Wedding prediction theories, strategies, proposal customs
• 41:01–44:49 – Engagement ring culture, upgrading/ring size debates
• 51:23 & 54:03 – Justin & Hailey Bieber relationship rumor analysis
• 59:02–66:49 – Burning Man orgy dome anecdote, club/party stories, safety
• 67:43–72:38 – Lil Nas X’s public incident, discussion of filming people in distress
• 84:28–87:46 – Blind item: Justin & Selena movie speculation, fanfics
• 91:40 – Proposal tradition banter; “double knee” proposal jokes
• 108:19–118:04 – Crumbl CEO’s coming out, TikTok outing, Mormon context
• 124:28–134:09 – Mr. Beast, Rolling Stone ranking, viral reaction, influencer breakdown

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Overall Tone & Style

High-energy, conversational, and thoroughly plugged into both traditional celebrity news and messy internet drama. Trisha delivers warmth and millennial pride, Oscar brings media savvy and sharp comic observations, and Moses drops comedic asides alongside his psychic “hot takes.” The mood is candid, irreverent, sometimes chaotic—but always welcoming for fans who want smart, funny, and up-to-date pop culture commentary.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This episode is a time capsule of summer 2025’s viral celebrity moments—none of the big internet topics, from Taylor Swift’s “corny” but headline-making engagement to the week’s navel-gazing influencer drama, go untouched. You’ll get everything from relationship breakdowns, wedding fashion speculation, and ring etiquette to social media etiquette and confessions about never leaving the house anymore. For longtime fans, the show delivers deep parasocial joy, loads of nostalgia, and all the spicy, irreverent commentary you expect from Trisha and Oscar.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar]

Those. You just never know. Yeah, because it's like, is he gay or is he just a Mormon? You know, cuz that's a lot of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never think about my follow ratio.

[Oscar]

Never. I never think about being ratioed. I just want to like. I found out what this was the other day and I was like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Haley Bieber and Justin Bieber, they broke up. No.

[Oscar]

Her name is. She's got. Hello. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. Vibes are good. Pumpkin spices flowing in my coffee, in my veins, and on my wig. And we're super excited today because there's just. Just so many hot topics. It's crazy. Like, I don't even know how we're gonna fit it in this five hour episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

[Oscar]

No, I think there's so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

There is actually a lot happening in the world. I think so too. Okay, good.

[Oscar]

Okay. I was kind of gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

They're all in my head, which is never a good idea. I should probably start writing these down because I had so many in my head.

[Trisha Paytas]

First of all, a moment of appreciation. That waist, Really? I just sat down and I'm like, what is. That waist is so teeny tiny.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I wore a waist trainer yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, I'm genuine. I'm so gagged.

[Moses]

That's where I went to now.

[Oscar]

I'm not wearing one now. No. But I should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

I should have worn mine. I would have been really gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have been in here. Oh, my God. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tick Tock shop had really good missing in action.

[Oscar]

Well, okay. I also did go on a walk by myself yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I was up a hill. I was showing Moses as I was uphills, like, because he was on a phone call. He was like on a conference call. It's gonna be like an hour or two. It was our only time to walk. And I was like, you know, I'm gonna go walk. And I got up a hill and I was showing him how I made it to the top. It's like Runyon in this area. It's like a very steep. Crazy. Yes. And I got up there and I was in the waist trainer And I did feel very skinny all throughout the day yesterday. I was like, I feel skinny, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I'm in my skinny Girl era. I did one Pilates class.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Oscar]

And I did a walk. And it really does. No dessert last night. We had no ice cream, no sweet treat. And my skinny girl Arabs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fair for noticing.

[Oscar]

I love it. Oh, my God. After one. After one walk, like, my eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, wait, hold on.

[Oscar]

It might be the illusion. I don't know what's happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're just wearing a shirt and shorts. Okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I love that. Thanks. That makes me feel good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, fierce.

[Oscar]

You look fierce. You have. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm being brave and vulnerable by wearing butter yellow today, which is not my color, but I think it's very much your color.

[Oscar]

It looked like you were going somewhere after this. That's just like, oh, are you going to go somewhere?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's just. That's show business, baby.

[Oscar]

Just a little butter yell and Taylor Swift.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wanted to represent a little bit of gold for King Tut Day, but the closest I had was butter yellow. And then I also wanted to represent for Taylor for her lovely engagement. So I was trying to bridge both worlds together.

[Oscar]

Best of both worlds. Hannah Montana over there. Yes, it is King Tut Day today of filming because mostly to do. You're gonna wear your outfit. I didn't have my outfit from last year. I didn't really think about it. Cause I did my King Tiktoks last week. You know me, I have to, like, stack. Like, I have to stack things. And I didn't think, especially with the kids.

[Moses]

The kids are also participating.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I know. Everyone was like, look, it's hard to get all three of my kids in one tick. Tock. Even pictures. The picture I posted of me and Malibu holding hands and. And Elvis is in the back. Like, obviously Aquaman's on me. Elvis is in the back. And of course the middle child's in the back. I'm like, trying to get a good photo of all three is impossible. Trying to get a TikTok video of all three. Like, forget about it. Like, they love doing it. Everyone together. Because even if we had a cute one of Elvis and Malibu doing King Tut, like, Aquaman looks squished because he wasn't. But, like, they both were sitting on me. So then he looks squit. It just. It's very difficult. So, yeah, we took about an hour trying to get those King Tut tiktoks with everybody. And you know what? We got them. I don't know how good they turned out, but they got him. And I've been posting them and yes, Happy King Bladed King Tut Day. I guess. I don't know if it's even still a thing, people. Last night. Can't wait. And I was like, is this still a thing?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, as I commented on your Instagram, I think Taylor. Taylor, how to get ahead. She was like. She was checking her calendar. She's like, oh, damn. The 27th King Tut Day. Like let me post my engagement photos the 26th.

[Oscar]

To not. To not compete.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She's like this. Like, I'll be second fiddle if it's. If I post on King Tut Day that.

[Oscar]

That happens.

[Moses]

I think she posted cuz she saw our podcast, the last one. Cuz we. Cuz I pretty much. Yeah. And she's like, oh, we need to announce now. Because they already announced it.

[Oscar]

You said. Yeah, you said. You did say that they're practically married.

[Moses]

Which because it was connected to my Hot Topics of last episode. I didn't get to. So I had a dream with Taylor Swift. She was in my dream. That's how she communicates those things to me. So she was. There was this really serious dream and she was sitting at the end of the table and she was announcing all kind of things. People with headphones listening to new songs and then they were doing science. How do you call it? With a Ouija board. Like seance.

[Oscar]

Oh, seance, Seance.

[Moses]

Like that's what they were doing. Which I'm wondering, like, do you know about that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it something she's heard about Taylor talking to spirits?

[Moses]

Yeah, in my dream, that's what they were doing.

[Oscar]

Wait, what are you asking him though? If he knows about your dream about Taylor talking to spirits?

[Moses]

If he can confirm that she does that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seances?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I don't think so. I don't know the expert.

[Moses]

I mean, that was. Anyway, that was in the dream and that's how the whole thing came about. About the wedding and them getting married.

[Oscar]

Is that a true story?

[Moses]

100% true.

[Oscar]

Yeah. You don't really make stuff up. But that's.

[Moses]

That dream was real and I just didn't know that she's going to announce the engagement. That's why I didn't talk about it last time. I also didn't get time to squeeze it in.

[Oscar]

Moses always tells me so many good.

[Moses]

I just feel like a serious connection.

[Oscar]

What a way to kick off the Hot Topics. I love that.

[Moses]

Just people know it's real predictions. It's not like random stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Amphrodite hold on to your freaking way, girl, because Moses is on your.

[Moses]

And the next time. So the last thing I'll predict and say is that they are considering her for the super bowl, but they're still not sure about it.

[Oscar]

I saw that.

[Moses]

I knew about it before Billboard.

[Oscar]

I love the prediction.

[Moses]

They're just not sure yet how people are going to receive it. So they're doing test groups and stuff. Focus groups and stuff.

[Oscar]

Well, clock it. If she gets a Super bowl, you can have it as your prediction. I. I love it.

[Moses]

Yeah, it was a crazy dream. I was quite shocked about it.

[Oscar]

Well, congrats to Taylor Swift. I found out about Taylor Swift's engagement from our chat. Actually, we're about to premiere and everyone's like, taylor just got engaged. I thought I was, like, trolling. Because usually our chat is them talking about what munchies they're eating. Do you ever see this? Okay, I just so happened. I don't know what. I guess you were on your call. So I'm just, like, scrolling through my phone. And I just so happened to see all the chat. I actually screenshotted, okay, this girl had a really good munchies option, which sounded so delicious. And I think I screenshotted it. I wasn't even saying on Hot Topics. I was just gonna eat it. And I was like, oh, it looks so good. It was before my walk. Oh, this was my wok. And I was gonna post this that I went two miles, but my hand looks so chubby and swollen that I was embarrassed.

[Trisha Paytas]

It does not look chubby.

[Oscar]

It is like my apple watch is cutting off my wrist. And I was like, I'm gonna put this in a before album. So then when I, like, lose weight, my fingers are skinny. Cause I was so proud. Although I don't know if I should Be proud of 2 miles in 1 hour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Be proud of that. That's something to celebrate.

[Oscar]

Is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Because you're gonna show. You're going to show how you're going to do.

[Oscar]

Because I was so excited about this. And then I realized, because this I knew wasn't good, I showed this because I didn't if I was only going to a mile. So I was like, oh, I did a mile. But then I saw it said 30 minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I was like, you also are going uphill.

[Oscar]

I was going uphill. Does it show that? Can it show?

[Trisha Paytas]

But it just. I know from you saying that people know.

[Oscar]

How will I tell people right down there. Also, for the record, a steep incline. It's not an easy one. And I Was sweating. Okay. I wish people would know, but I remember you said you do, like a seven minute mile. So I'm like, let me not post that. But okay, what was I looking for? Oh, the mun. Munchies. Was that before I went. Oh, man.

[Moses]

Because first the chat starts with people, you know, doing things that we can't talk about, and then they go into the munchies.

[Oscar]

That's what I'm saying. That's our whole chat. Is that okay? I don't know why I didn't screenshot it. That was okay. Damn. I kind of had a good snack list and I couldn't. Oh, my gosh. Maybe a screenshot on my computer. Oh, well, doesn't matter. But our chat starts off with that. They're always. Which is like, how are you? Middle of the day? Just. You know what I mean? Like, just lighten up.

[Moses]

I mean, if you work from home, if you're a student, if you're unemployed. Okay, there's.

[Oscar]

I love it. Shout out chat. But that's crazy, because every episode they're like, what are we eating after we're blinking? And I was like, this is. I just don't see my. I love it. I just didn't know I had an audience like that, but I love it.

[Moses]

I think in general, the audience is like that. In life in general, yes.

[Oscar]

Really? Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you're right. All my. Everyone around me, everybody is like, yes, I. Every day. Every day to function or just to, like, whatever. Just to relax. Some people do it in the morning and they can function better throughout the day. Some people do it at night. To where I was like, all right, look, I wish I could be one of y'. All. I told you. I don't think I inhale it right. I don't think I'm doing it right. I don't know what's happening. But it never was for me, which is probably a good thing. I probably don't need to add that on the list of. Gosh, if I had munchies, I would be ginormous. Which is fine. I'm not gonna talk about my weight. But if I had them, if I had a thing that, like, made me even hungrier. No, thank you. I have that all on my own. But the snacks look good. Y' all keep telling us what you're eating. Because they do look really good. Someone had just, like, a list. It was like five things, and it sounded so good, and I'm so sad. I'm gonna capture it. But then after that was all like, Taylor Swift's. Engage. Oh my God. I can't believe Taylor just had the news. And I thought, I thought it was a troll, but she looked beautiful. She looked classy. Now do you think that those photos were taken on the same day?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was because confirmed, love, because Travis's dad is also doing like a little press tour. I guess they had the. Kelsey's had like a premiere or something like a couple days ago. So they're promoting something. I forget what it is. Something footbally, I'm assuming. But anyway, Ed Kelsey was doing like a couple like phone interviews and he's just given all of Travis and Taylor's business, which is so like parent coded. It's like, yes. He's like, you know, Travis got that ring early July. This was too weeks ago. This was at Travis in Travis's backyard. He, Travis told her they were going to go out to dinner, but then he pulled her in the backyard and was like, come on, let's just have a glass of wine back here. And Taylor saw that it was all decorated with flowers, so she kind of knew something was up. And then he popped the question and he was. Travis was gonna wait until this week because it's the one year anniversary of the first date. But I told them like, Travis, don't wait for a special day, just do it. Oh yeah. So he really put all their business out there.

[Oscar]

Love that. I love that. For the wait, what do. Anniversary of their first date.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sorry, two year anniversary of the first date? Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay. That's so cute. That's like a perfect amount of time. Two years. I mean, I, I would say a year, but it's good for people who are busy. Two years is funny. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that was the thing too. Like he, Travis has been so busy. So that's why Ed Kelsey was like, just don't even think about trying to find a special day that's symbolic. Whatever, just pop it. And he said Taylor was getting a little antsy wanting him to do it. So. Yeah, really putting it all out there, which I love because I was so curious too. I was like, what day could this have been? Like, did they, you know, do it privately, then just do photos separately?

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's what I thought is maybe like a separate photo because I was like, wow, that's really beautiful for on the spot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The running theory is August 10th, because that would have been about two weeks ago as Ed Kelsey said it would have been after they filmed the podcast, the New Heights podcast. Which makes sense because Taylor had the same manicure and the same hair. And. And then I love my. My Swift. Yes. It looked like she had the indent from her. Had the headphones she was wearing. Travis had the same haircut and he got his hair cut at the end of July. So it all kind of adds up timing wise too. And if it was going to be at his house, that also makes sense because he does the podcast from his house as well.

[Oscar]

How do we know that he says it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he does. Like, he has his ankle and it's in his house. Like his zoom. And then Jason Kelsey does his zoom together. Yeah. Or they. Yeah, they weren't in the same space. Yeah.

[Moses]

Oh, how you see, he was smart. He knew, like me. Like, she's gonna be in glam. She's gonna look good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good point.

[Moses]

He's gonna be probably photographer. So that's how.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. Did they had a photographer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Or someone even.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's. Ed Kelsey said like the florists were still there setting up and then they saw Travis and Taylor, like walk out. Then the florists had to go and hide in the bushes. So they weren't like in the shots or something.

[Oscar]

I'm dead.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. Kelsey really was feeling. And then they FaceTime. Afterwards, Travis asked her dad, Scott Swift, her dad's permission before he popped the question.

[Oscar]

How do we know that? From Ed?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yep.

[Oscar]

How did he know that I called your dad?

[Moses]

Like, he knows everything about all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It's a nice detail.

[Oscar]

Wow. Yeah, he was. He was knowing all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was really smooth. And all the tea. And I'm thankful for it. That's why, like, when that wedding happens, I know Ed Kelsey is going to be doing some kind of radio interview and just give me all the info so I'm not stressed.

[Moses]

He can come here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Honestly, I know that's a long shot. Let's manifest reality that we could get.

[Moses]

But you know, the parents. That's the easy one.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I don't know if it's gonna come on just church, but maybe. Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hope it was.

[Moses]

When I saw the picture, I thought it was your hand because the Cartier watch and the ring with the big diamond, it looked exactly like a Cartier watch. Her watch exactly like you have. You just had bigger diamonds, but it's the same watch.

[Oscar]

Wait, really? I did like her watch. I never. I know. I never noticed what the in watch is like.

[Moses]

I haven't seen that in the stores, but.

[Oscar]

Well, it probably was custom. If it's Taylor Swift, I missed it. I'm missing a diamond. Oh, no, I'm not. Just kidding. It's a little screw. That's crazy that I think me and Taylor Swift hands look the same as I just said. There's swollen. And her ring was beautiful. I loved it. It was less than Haley Bieber's ring.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it was. No, I think Haley's was 250, right? Oh, are they saying Taylor's was too?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think I heard Taylor's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hers is estimated at 650. Oh, and Taylor's is. Taylor's ring is estimated at 650, 000.

[Oscar]

Oh, I saw something where, like, Haley Bieber's was more. Because then Twitter was upset because they were like, yeah, but, like, at least.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, it was a Haley Bieber. Stan account was reporting that the ring was 250, but it's been estimated at 600.

[Oscar]

Taylor's. Yes, I see what you're saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Haley's was around the same. The 650 or 750, so.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they got me and they. Travis got like, a jewel. A jeweler. I thought it was a cute story. Like, this jeweler, she was told that she was gonna fail at being, like, at making jewelry, and this was like, I guess her big break. But she also hasn't, like, posted about it.

[Oscar]

Is that a real story?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what, like, the trades are reporting.

[Oscar]

So, like, trades is in variety.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah.

[Oscar]

What trade are we talking about here?

[Trisha Paytas]

Which I think is a cute, cute little story. But, yeah, it's. She even, like, had a little reel on her Instagram of, like, the behind the scenes of making this ring. She didn't say, like, what. Who or what it was for, but she, like, just has reels of all the pieces she makes. And then everyone found it. And all the swifties were commenting, like, girl, this is your moment. Like, post about it. But she won't. She hasn't even, like, did an update about, like, reacting to Taylor's ring or.

[Oscar]

Did someone shout it out or they just put two and two together.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think someone put two and two together because it was a big. It was a mad rush to figure out, like, all the details about the engagement in the ring and what she was wearing and everything. So I think people kind of just did some digging for it to come out. Yeah, it was great, like, in the. The newsroom, because I was in the office yesterday, and when it happened, it's like, it was maddening. Like, you heard girls are screaming, people are running around the knee. Like, the whole show. Because the whole show has to change because it all is like, they have the list. And it was already kind of busy yesterday, so they have to redo the whole show and, like, make the whole piece about, like, Taylor and Travis's engagement.

[Oscar]

The whole TV show, like, the first.

[Trisha Paytas]

Half of the TV show becomes Travis and Taylor all of a sudden. And it's like, what time? It was, like, around 10, right? 10, 10, 10 30.

[Oscar]

Everything changes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything changes. And then, ironically, kind of similar to Moses premonition. I was, like, going in the morning. I was, like, looking at the pieces that are, like, prepped for. Just, like, you know, it's prepped if someone passes. Like, someone passes away. Someone gets married, someone has a baby, someone gets engaged. And then I saw the Taylor and Travis one in, like, the prep section, and I was like, should I do something for that? Like, prep it just in case it happens? I was like, whatever. I'll do it later. And then it happened. So I also had a premonition about it.

[Oscar]

Wait, you saw. You saw the preps and you're like, maybe I should do a Taylor Swift one. You thought that too?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, because I was. I saw the full list, and then I was like, I stop specifically at the Taylor and Travis one. And I was, like, thinking about it.

[Oscar]

Oh, they have names listed there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, they already have, like, pieces. And then you obviously, like, when stuff happens, you plug it in with, like, the new photos or whatever. But it has, like, this. The video is, like, 80 done, you know, with, like.

[Moses]

You have to follow your intuition.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is the truth. That is the lesson. That is.

[Oscar]

You were almost like, can you give us any other predictions on that list or no? Is that top secret?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not really, like, predictions. It's just like, who's old or sick? Prep a video. If they pass away, who is, like, dating for a long time.

[Oscar]

So, like, who's dating for a long time? It doesn't just say from ET but just in your head, just in general.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could see probably, like, a Olivia Rodrigo and her boyfriend Louie, because they've been together, like, two years.

[Oscar]

Okay, so that's, like, on the prep list to be like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if it is, but probably I would just assume.

[Oscar]

Can you put something on the prep list?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess so, yeah. If I. That's so wild.

[Oscar]

That's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

The second you announced you're pregnant, they already have the video prepped that you give birth. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

Can you, as like, an insider, be like, look, guys, I know it's already happened. Put it in. Like, plug it in now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Um, I like, for Me with your. Oh. I give it to him, like, very last minute. I give it to him like, an hour before it happens. Yeah. Because I don't want anyone to leak it. So I mean that.

[Oscar]

I don't care. But it's so funny because I was like, I never even thought about that. Like, well, I kind of did because I'm like, sometimes they're fast, but I'm like, I wonder if Oscar is. Or they just know. They're just, like, on it. Do they care that much?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know they. They sought for. I think the second it was scheduled, like, for your birth for Aquaman, like, the second the podcast was scheduled, they got it. They, like, got.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They started, like, flagging it. And I was like, okay, here then here's the photos. Yes. Yes, yes.

[Oscar]

No, I like it. And I also love. Because you don't pick awful photos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's always what's approved. Yeah.

[Oscar]

I think you had to even airbrush my hospital photo sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember for Elvis. Yes. I was like, lenny Glam. Yeah.

[Oscar]

I love it. Do it all day. But I. Sometimes I'm. I look a little glowy there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Oscar]

I never, never retouch my photos, ever. Never FaceTime, because, like, why bother? That seems like so much work. But when someone will do it for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Work.

[Oscar]

Yeah, absolutely. My Gerard Way photo I had sent to a few people. I mean, can you touch me up a little bit? Because I looked a little. I should send it to you, but you're busy. I sent it to, like, my sister, my photographer, Naz, and my makeup artist. I'm like, who can do the best Photoshop with a contrast? It's also who gets it back the fastest, too. I'm always like, you can edit anyways. I always give them something to. Because I know it's, like, annoying to do, but I do it for special photos. That's so interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So then now will you gu. Do that for their wedding?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, for sure. Or, like, Selena and Benny's wedding? Like, that's already. Probably. Yeah.

[Oscar]

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[Trisha Paytas]

I think Selena's is. And this. I don't know anything. I just saw like on TMZ or something rumored to be September. So. Yeah, probably soon. Yeah. And who knows? The Taylor and Travis part of me thinks that this not this December, but a December wedding because she loves. And it also has to be like his time off from football. So I don't really know.

[Moses]

It has to be on the 13 and it has.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think it kind of has.

[Oscar]

To be on really.

[Trisha Paytas]

But her birthday is the 13th of December, so what? She wanted to conflict with that.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's the best time, isn't it? December. Isn't that one of her songs? Is that not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar]

Wait, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I have no idea.

[Oscar]

Okay, well, there's a December song. Let me know.

[Trisha Paytas]

She has back to December.

[Oscar]

Yeah, no, it's a December.

[Trisha Paytas]

I go back to December all the time.

[Oscar]

That's her song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay. I don't know that song. I'm thinking of. No, probably not. Is there a song that's like that, that sounds like that? Oh my God. Someone in the comments has to know. I did yesterday on TikTok. I was like, what's the song like? Boom, boom, boom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you're thinking of August. I can see a sauce in the memory. August slipped away in the moment of time. Doesn't that sound like what I just did? Okay, there you go.

[Moses]

Just the wrong month.

[Oscar]

I knew there was something. I like that song. She loves to mention December. Yeah, August. So either August or December. Well, I guess you got engagement.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, August was an engagement. Maybe a December wedding. But who knows? Ed Kelsey, I think will be the first to leak it.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But did Donna Kelsey chime in?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. She. She has. I don't think she's been doing press. She did change her Facebook. She changed her Facebook, like, cover, like her header to a tweet that was like a photo of Travis as a kid and a photo of Taylor as a kid. And the tweet was like, these two are getting married. And she changed her face.

[Oscar]

Oh, it was just a tweet from someone else.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Which I love. I think that's so funny.

[Oscar]

I love that too. What do you think of the caption?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, this is. I'm letting my full swifty card come out because this is too much. Taylor Swift is a corny millennial, period. That's who she is. She has always been that. She loves puns, she loves dad jokes. Like, this is her humor. She's been quiet for too long. So people have projected this like, mysterious, cool girl vibe onto her. She's never been that. She never will be the cool girl. We love her because she is the corny millennial. Like that's. That's her thing. Like Travis Kelsey, also pretty corny. She on. She was on that podcast. She said the funniest thing that man her fiance does is impersonate her cat not liking food and like sticking his tongue out. She said, that is so funny. I fall off the couch laughing. That is corny as hell. And that is my sister. That makes her happy. I love that for her. I love that for her. So yes, the caption was a little corny. You might think her ring is ugly because yes, it is chunky and antique and not your style, but that is her. She has loved antiques since she was a freaking teenager. She went. Her first apartment was furnished in old antiques in Nashville. Like that is who she is. So it is perfectly her personality. It is. So if you don't like it, then you just don't like Taylor Swift. And that is on, you know, slander.

[Oscar]

No. Taylor Swiftly and they're on your.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's my corny sister. And I love that for her. I love that for. For her.

[Oscar]

Yeah. How do you feel? Cuz you do love her so much. Are you like parasocial at all or. No. And I love parasocial, by the way. Shout out to anyone par socials me. I love you. But like are you paras When I.

[Trisha Paytas]

First hear my brain is so like shut off. Cuz I like. And I was also like the only one on it was me and one other guy on the social like on yesterday. And so at first I was panic some. I automatically like, oh, to like, do something with this. But then after I finished and I, like, I took a little walk on my lunch and I just reflected, and I did allow myself to get fully parasocial.

[Oscar]

You cried?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not cry. But I was like, just, like, happy, I guess, because. And also I feel like people feel similarly again. Everything goes back to you, I guess. But, like, seeing someone who, like, has wanted something so, like, you know, she's written about it. She wanted it so bad for a while. Probably thought that a relationship or marriage, like, wasn't for her. She didn't think she was gonna get that. And then for it to kind of happen kind of almost seemingly, like, out of nowhere, you know, like, it did. He just. Travis just, like, in a SeatGeek ad for his pod. SeatGeek ad on his podcast, talked about Taylor Swift, and that's how it all happened.

[Oscar]

Was it the one with the bracelets he was doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

I literally went back to watch it. It was him promoting SeatGeek and he got yes.

[Oscar]

And he's like, I want to see Taylor Swift in concert.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, no, he had just seen Taylor Swift. And then he was like, I was pretty sad because I went to the Taylor Swift concert and I couldn't give her my bracelet with my phone number on it. Yeah. And then.

[Oscar]

So this is not the Eras tour or. It is the Eras.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was the Eras tour.

[Oscar]

And they didn't know each other then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Didn't know each other. He just, like, saw her and was a fan of hers and, like, did. Almost didn't even bring it up. But Jason asked, like, because they were talking about, you know, cq. They talk about what concerts? And Jason was like, didn't you just go to the Aero Store, like, in the middle of this ad read? And then that's when the whole thing happened.

[Oscar]

No, he was a fan. He just went by himself.

[Trisha Paytas]

He went. Yeah, like, he went with someone else. And it was at the Kansas City, like, where the Chiefs play. And he thought because he plays there that he would be able to, like, go backstage and meet her. Like, he didn't ask, like, management or anything. And beforehand, so he just showed up with a friendship bracelet for her and then got there and was like, oh, can I meet her? But she doesn't do meet and greets for this tour because it's so long.

[Oscar]

But not even, like, someone famous. I feel like famous people always meet famous people.

[Trisha Paytas]

They usually, for her tour, like, her management will, like, have them in the VIP tent for the Eras tour, and she writes them, like, a little letter saying, thank you for coming. Unless, like, she only meets, like, her actual, like, friends afterwards backstage, but not just, like, the celebrities who come to see her.

[Oscar]

So how do they meet?

[Trisha Paytas]

The clip went viral of Travis Kelce saying that he wants to date Taylor Swift. And then she saw it and was like, okay, like, I'll try it. And then that's what happened.

[Oscar]

That's why we have to keep shouting out people we love. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never know more of the story.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that is actually. That's actually pretty impressive.

[Moses]

And a friendship bracelet. It's the last thing I would expect from him, not knowing him, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he's the time, like.

[Oscar]

Well, they all make friendship bracelets at the show.

[Moses]

Yeah. But you don't expect him.

[Oscar]

Oh, right, right.

[Moses]

You know, a football player to show up with a friend. Like, what, did he sit home and put it together by himself?

[Trisha Paytas]

There was a video about him on the NF for the NFL where he was making friendship bracelets for. And this was. I think. I think it was either right after or right before. But he made. He makes, like. He made all the guys on his team little friendship bracelets, too. So he really is.

[Oscar]

I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just, like, sweet himbo vibes.

[Oscar]

But see, we love to see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

That's crazy. How old is he?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they're around the same age. I think he's five.

[Oscar]

She's 35, too, he said.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's, I think about 89. So she's about to be 36.

[Oscar]

Are they both 89?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So he. His birthday is October 5th, and hers of 1989, actually. So cute. Yeah, that.

[Oscar]

So much. Was there someone else who manifested their wife? Because I saw two on Twitter. It was like, he did it and someone else did it too. And, like, this only has happened twice. It's not Benny or Justin or, like, someone else talking.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw. It was like there was an old tweet between Taylor and Selena from, like, 2009, where Selena was talking about, like, she saw these little kids talking about, like, someone getting married or something. I think I saved the tweet, actually, because I just thought it was so cute. Let me see.

[Oscar]

That's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, yeah, it was all the way back in 2009. Taylor responded to this tweet and said real love still happens sometimes. It's not just something we make up when we're nine. I have to believe that. And you do, too. And now they're both engaged at the same time, which is. Is so sweet. And this would have been, like, after, because Selena was dating Nick and Taylor was dating Joe Jonas, and so they both, like, had their breakups around the same time, too.

[Oscar]

I see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

That's so sweet. Okay. I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's all very sweet.

[Oscar]

I love, love. I love when people are excited because, like, I saw everyone's reaction. Social media was, like, so excited. And I'm like, that's so cool. Everyone's, like, excited for someone happy. And it was great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, seeing all the reactions is so fun. Like, obviously, I figured in for, like, entertainment news. It was crazy. Like, literally, it was like. It was like a big political event that happened in 2001. I'll say.

[Oscar]

And yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. It's the similar vibes in September. Yes.

[Moses]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, the important is, like, the importance of it. You know what I mean? Like, people running around like, it's great. Like, the biggest news story in the world. Yes. And then I saw the tick tocks of. I know, but my brain. I wish we were filming here because that would have been, like, a gag.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think TMZ was filming their show live when they found out. Same with, like, CBS News.

[Oscar]

I was seeing reactions of people. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

People were going to the top of their buildings. I saw nurses stopping everyone in the clinics running around. A professor had to stop class and let everyone out. It was crazy.

[Oscar]

So it is that same reaction. Why was no one on ET doing that? You guys are, like social media people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because we have a whole show to.

[Oscar]

Do, so it'd be like somebody. Someone there has to have 30 seconds to get their phone out. You know? That is the news. That is the breaking.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so funny.

[Oscar]

That is wild. Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. I feel like the closest we'll get to a royal wedding in America. Like, I've never seen the whole.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but they probably won't, like, televise it or.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it'll just be. I. I think we'll just find out afterwards. I mean, Taylor's pretty good about, like, the paparazzi and stuff, like, not being seen.

[Oscar]

So it's not like a Jeff Bezos wedding. You think they're gonna go in Italy? You think they're gonna be here?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. That's a good question.

[Oscar]

Like, what do you pretend vibe gives me here?

[Moses]

Because they're both very American.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Especially. Yeah.

[Moses]

And football field busy.

[Oscar]

You think they're getting married on a football field? Okay. Solid prediction.

[Moses]

Convert it into a beautiful. No, my only prediction is 36. First baby when she's 36.

[Oscar]

That seems logical.

[Trisha Paytas]

Next year. Yeah, maybe.

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know either.

[Oscar]

Okay, Whoa, slow down over there.

[Moses]

I'm like the parents, okay? You got married. Now babies, you know, that's how people are.

[Oscar]

Let people be happily married.

[Moses]

Maybe they don't want kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hers is December 13th.

[Moses]

Yes. The 36th.

[Oscar]

If they want kids, you can also. Wait. Take your time.

[Moses]

2.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Did she talk about wanting kids? Do you know anything about that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not really, no. But she is good with kids. Like, she's a godmom to one of Blake Lively's kids, even though their friendship is all over the place.

[Oscar]

But, yeah, probably more Blake's fault.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So it seems that she put it in the middle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

I'm sure someone put me in the middle of a lawsuit. Like, can we not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Blake will go to the wedding. I don't know if they'll work it out in time, but.

[Oscar]

Who?

[Trisha Paytas]

That invite list is going to be fierce.

[Moses]

It's one more reason to make it small, like, family and friends kind of thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they have so many football friends, so there's going to be so many wags there.

[Oscar]

And famous friends. What is it, like, Selena? I mean, I feel like I. Who else is like, a. Someone told me they were Taylor Swift's bestie. Were you telling me about someone's bestie?

[Trisha Paytas]

Zoe Kravitz?

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, Zoe Kravitz and, like, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sophie Turner, the Hadid.

[Moses]

But do you make a small wedding and a big party later on?

[Trisha Paytas]

True.

[Moses]

Kind of.

[Oscar]

No.

[Moses]

She's a wedding.

[Oscar]

I have a feeling. I don't know. I. I would just. My prediction is she does a big wedding because, like, of course, I kind.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of think it's bigger now, too. Before, I would have said smaller because she was so private, like, with Joe Alwyn and stuff. But I think Travis has, like, encouraged her to be more just, like, yeah, I'm famous and I can still have fun with this, you know?

[Oscar]

So the fact that she was on his podcast and stuff is, like, yeah, opened up. That's the first time I, like, seen her talk. And I was just like, oh, she's just, like, cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's willing to go to his games and the super bowl, and she's so much more public now, so I could see it possibly being, like, a big wedding. But, yeah, that guest list will be something fierce.

[Oscar]

I'm excited. I do love weddings. I do love big weddings, too. They do get me.

[Trisha Paytas]

My God, her dress will be, like, a moment in history. I didn't even think about that.

[Oscar]

The hair. Imagine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, her hair, like, I can't. I hope her hair. Her hair is down. Me planning her with it.

[Oscar]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It really jumped out the parasocial, too, because I remember we talked about, like, this after Travis went viral for saying he wants to date her. I was like, yeah, this is the man my sister wants to date. And at first, I was, like, glowing in that yesterday. And then I was, like, thinking. Because I was like, I didn't like Calvin Harris. Didn't really like Joe Alwyn. Definitely didn't like Matty Healy. Didn't like John Mayer.

[Oscar]

Oh, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then I was like, who did I like? I liked her with Jake Gyllenhaal for a second, and then I liked her with Harry Styles and then loved her with Travis. And then I realized that I was just liking her with guys that I would want to date. So I'm like, I can't really take credit, Pre, because this was Pre knowing he was a little, like, nutty with girls, you know, I still feel like.

[Oscar]

I don't know if she's like, if we're me and Taylor the same age. I think Jake Gyllenha hall is, like, a lot older than us.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was, but I was also young. Right. With her.

[Oscar]

I see. So you're like, we love this because.

[Trisha Paytas]

He'S just, like, a cute guy and, like, an actor, so. And they looked cute walking.

[Oscar]

And you want to date him, Pre knowing he's weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Just because he was so, like, handsome.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It was giving me a weird creep vibe always. Yeah. Like, the first one I saw him in was, like, October sky or something. I was, like, in middle school, and it was like, him, like, in. He was a high schooler that, like, launched rockets, and I just remember being like. Gave me an. You know what I mean? Like, everything about him was like, oh, I don't like him. And then he did, like, another one where he was, like, a bubble boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that was him.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then I did see that then.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And we were like, again, high school or something. I was like, I don't like this guy. And everyone was, like, gagged over him. And I was like, I don't like him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Never intuition.

[Oscar]

You'll never find me, like, broke back mountain maybe, but I'll give credit to Heath Ledger on that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Work. Yeah.

[Oscar]

But he was good in that movie. Yeah. I. I'm here for it. What do you think about who bought the ring? You think Travis did?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I get 250, 000 he could afford. Or 600.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It is a lot. But he. That podcast Football. He has so many brand deals. Like, he does a million brand deals.

[Oscar]

So do you think it's okay for a woman to buy her own engagement ring?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it kind of gives me. Like, when people were mad at Bella Thorne that she, like, even though she. She proposed to her.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, that was recent.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that was also recent. People were like, girl, a woman should never propose. I'm like, who cares? Like, whatever.

[Oscar]

That. That's so interesting, because I'm all for that, too. I wanted to propose to Moses. Like, no, absolutely not. I was like, why?

[Moses]

So how does it work? Like, if she proposes to him, she gets her own ring or.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he did it. They were already. I believe. Right. I don't be wrong. I should.

[Moses]

Because if she. Let's say if you proposed to me, then you would give me a ring.

[Oscar]

Yeah, your ring.

[Moses]

But then you'd be like, okay, take this one. Put it on my finger.

[Oscar]

I was like, if I were to propose to you, and I really wanted to for real, I would have given you a ring and I would have bought my own own.

[Moses]

Right, but we're talking about getting your own. But it wouldn't be in that moment or.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So for Bella specifically, he already proposed to her in May 2023, and then she proposed back. Yeah. In August 2025.

[Oscar]

Long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute.

[Oscar]

No, I think that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you want just one engagement? Yeah. Okay.

[Oscar]

I. I don't. I love when someone proposes back when it's right away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Like, have you seen that at Disney? Like, someone will propose, and then the other person also had theirs ready to propose at Disney. It's so cute. I specifically, I'm on, like, gay talk right now, and Gay Disney talk, and it's like, all these gay couples proposing at Disney, and it's so cute to see, but one of the couples, he knelt down to propose, took the ring out, and then the other guy had his ring, too, and I was, like, dying, and everyone's, like, gagged for them. So I like that. I don't mind a proposal back if it's, like, within the same couple months. I don't think it should be, like, two years later. That's more like, are we getting married or what? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Right? It seems a little. But I mean, love that she did it. Whatever she wants to. I just think. Yeah. I also think someone else was telling me they bought their own ring. Thank you so much, SeatGeek, for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Oh, my gosh, you guys. Just because summer is coming To a close. But not yet. Doesn't mean the fun has to end. All the great acts are still going on tour, okay? Whether it's Shakira, Cat's Eye, there's so many good artists out there. Backstreet Boys are coming back to the sphere. Get those good Tickets today at SeatGeek, and you can get 10% off when you use the code TRISH 2025. I know I'm still excited for My Chemical Romance. Okay? They are still going on their stadium tour. They're expanding overseas. They're going on an international tour. Lots of fun stuff, and you don't want to miss out. And a lot of times these shows will sell so quickly. I didn't get the tickets I want, or it's the day of. And sometimes the day of is even better when you want seek because you get those low prices. So kind of just, you know, watch the app, see what's going on, and seeking has you covered. Each ticket is rated on a scale of 1 to 10. So you know you're getting a good deal. So look for the green dots. Green good, red means bad. Plus, every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee. And what's really cool when you go on the app is, yes, you can go buy seats. Like, the best seats in the house, the best value seats compared to, like, the dollar amount you can go buy. You know how many tickets you need? 2 or 4 or 3. You can go by price. Maybe like, let me get the best seats money can buy. You're like, you know what? Let's just find a cheap option tonight. Whatever it is, SeatGeek has you covered. With over 28 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concerts, sports, festivals, and more. The other day, someone was asking if I want to see the LA Rams. And I was like, you know what? I haven't been to a football game. Let's go. I want to go see Sophie Stadium. I want to see those box seats on the field. So there is something for everyone. Whether you're into theater, concerts, or sports, there's an event for everybody. Cali choose is also on tour right now, and she looked phenomenal. She played the Kia form, and I was just like, yes, girl. Get it. Bring out all those special guests. You know, if it's a big show, they're gonna bring out those special guests. So before the summer ends, get out of the house and do something fun and use our code Trish 2025. That's Trish 2025 for 10% off your next set of tickets at Seatgeek. That's 10% off tickets code Trish 2025. Trish 2025 at Seeky Go today. Put it in your app so you do not miss it. Okay. Make sure you click the link in the description to download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Get that discount Seek. We love you for covering everybody, even our returning customers, because we love SeatGeek, we're loyal, and we love to see those shows. So thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. I don't know. I think there's nothing wrong with it because it's like, if you want a big ring, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Was it. Oh, I think it was Michaela, actually. Tick tock. Michaela. She. She got proposed to by. What's her husband's name? I know, Cody. Yes. She got posted by Cody. She's like, I love the ring. He said the whole thing was like, he sold his truck to buy this ring for her. Yeah, it was like, really cute. But then two years later, like, I don't know, like last year, the company, like an engagement ring company was like, basically gave them, like a free ring to, like, upgrade her ring. So their whole thing was like, we're upgrading my wedding ring. And she got this huge diamond, right? This huge diamond. And that's like all she wears now. And everyone's like, yeah, but what about the one Cody got you that he had to, like, sell his truck for? Obviously. Then she's like, you know, Cody's fine with it, whatever. But I thought it was so interesting how many people were, like, upset that she upgraded her own ring.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't really see Amy, personally, I don't really see something wrong with it.

[Moses]

And she's the one wearing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Need to wear something?

[Oscar]

Would it hurt your feelings if you got me a small one? And then I was like, I need a big one.

[Moses]

I don't know. I mean, I got you that one. So I feel like I. I don't know. I made sure it will be big enough that you cannot do that. So that was not enough. I don't know. Like, I don't know. No, but if one day, let's say you want, I don't know, a newer diamond, sparklier, like, you know, over time, they. I don't know, like, if I was.

[Oscar]

Like, I need to take, like, the.

[Moses]

Whole goal is for you to be happy. That's why I got the ring. Right. Like, I never imagined myself buying a big diamond for anyone until I met you. Yeah, I was almost against it in a way.

[Oscar]

Wait, why?

[Moses]

Because I just didn't understand it, you know? But it doesn't. It's not for me to understand. It makes you happy that that's what you're doing.

[Oscar]

You didn't understand why people want big diamonds or you don't understand the diamond?

[Moses]

I didn't understand that idea of spending so much money on a diamond.

[Oscar]

Oh, interesting. So then what changed your mind?

[Moses]

It's. It's not about me. It's about you. What makes you happy. I don't. Like, it's not.

[Oscar]

I know. I did show them. I was like, I need this big.

[Moses]

You showed me the shape, like, the design that you like, among other things. But, you know, I kind of picked on the signs.

[Oscar]

And this. This is not like a Cardi. Because people think this is like, it would be like a million dollar ring. And it's like, just so people know I'm trying to be.

[Moses]

Well, it would be if it was sold at the Cartier store.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Moses]

You can. One of the ways to do it, and I think even Travis did that. Like, you go and you buy the diamond.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Separately. And then I went to a jeweler because I wanted to design the ring too.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So nobody has this exact ring. People have replicated it since. But I designed the whole ring and the diamonds on the sides and the shapes and everything.

[Oscar]

So if one day I'm like, I want to go to Cardi and get a circle diamond that's a million dollars, you want to be like, oh, again.

[Moses]

It'S about you and it's about me. Like, it's not because this. This ring will still exist if it's in our home. And we'll, you know, like, we'll always cherish this ring forever.

[Oscar]

I think I would feel weird because even when. Okay, look, I never wear this out, obviously. Like, I. That's the thing with engagement rings these days, or wedding rings. It's like, so scary to wear them anywhere you are, because people just be stealing the boo boos and stuff. You know what I mean, though? Like, they'll steal. You know, they steal everything. Even my rainbow wedding. I tuck it inside sometimes. I'm like, because of you. You're like, sometimes people just dash. I'm like, yeah, I guess that's probably true. But I think I would. I think, like, even if I was like, if we were like, won the lottery tomorrow. Because I do love Cardi. Cardi has like the circle ring that's like a million dollars. And it is like beautiful. But I don't know, I guess because this is my dream ring. I love it, but I don't know, it's like kind of like because you gave it to me, I feel like I wouldn't want to upgrade it.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because I mean. And you can always do something else. The other hand or a different.

[Oscar]

But if it was little, maybe because my fingers are so chubby, maybe I would be. I don't know. But yeah, that's the thing. Do you want like a. Would you rather have a smaller diamond that's like shinier, like a Cartier diamond, or would you rather have like a big diamond? That's for me personally.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me personally. Smaller. Because I don't like. It's like the sensory experience of me having like a thick like heavy ring. I don't like because I try to have a fitness ring. That's how I knew I had to try to have a fitness ring. And it was like it's kind of bulky because it's. It monitors you pulse and stuff. So. And I had it for like a couple days. I'm like, I can't do this.

[Oscar]

Could you not close your fingers with it? Like this. Was it bulky? Like it would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like it would kind of stick out a little bit and even like gripping like. I hated gripping, like weights and stuff. And then having it like click again. The metal, it was just like annoying. So I just don't even like necklaces and stuff. I don't really love. I don't know the sensory experience. So I'm not really like a jewelry person. I think that's why I have. So like, like, like whatever you want, you know.

[Oscar]

So will you not wear a ring, you think?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Darian loves a ring so he'll definitely wear one.

[Oscar]

You used to. You. You wear rings Sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes. But yeah, they feel like I never keep it on in general. Like I can never like sleep in jewelry or anything.

[Oscar]

I'm kind of with you. We both don't really wear rings on the day to day. Like I literally wear it for filming and that's it. But we don't really wear rings. You never do. I don't.

[Moses]

I just can't. Cuz anything. It's just like. It's painful to me. Like anything that I put on my body, it just. It's literally right now with everything we do, that's the only thing I will feel and think about is the something that's on my finger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's how I feel too.

[Moses]

And I feel it between the other fingers and I just. And it's a constant.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

So same with clothing. If there's one thing in the cloth that bothers me, I cannot get out of your head. Yeah. So it's like constant.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Cuz even when I was looking at fake rings to buy for, like traveling, it's like, I don't want to wear anything that doesn't ring you didn't give me. You know what I mean? Because there are like cute fake rings. I buy them all the time. You see them on TikTok. TikTok come through. And I'm always like, oh, this ring is cute, whatever. But it's like not the ring you gave me. So then I'm like, I don't know if I want to like be photographed in it because like, this is the ring you gave me.

[Moses]

Yeah. When we have a minute, I might try to design one that's really, really flat on the sides. You know, like as flat. Like a zero. So. So I'll be able to wear it. Yeah, but you just have to make it for.

[Oscar]

I know. I remember at the beginning my dad would be like, oh, you guys never wear your wedding rings. I'm like, I don't know. I guess not. My dad wears his all the time. It's so funny.

[Moses]

But we're also always together. Like I think somehow it's.

[Oscar]

That's true. I guess you're like traveling. Be like, wear your ring. Actually, I don't know. I don't get hair either way. Guys take off their rings. Whatever. It's such a funny thing, rings. I wonder why that even is a thing for marriages. Like, why do we give someone a ring? Why do we wear rings when we're married? To let people know. Yeah. I don't think that matters to someone who's gonna cheat. I got a ring.

[Moses]

Yeah, but it's more A few see somebody and you're interested and they have a ring and you think, okay, I'm not. You know, this person is obviously married, but there's the other people that. That's their. They want to. Somebody that's not available. So it's like, oh, it's a whole thing.

[Oscar]

You think someone sees a ring, like, I'm gonna hit on that person.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because if they don't want something serious or something. So they're like wild.

[Oscar]

All right.

[Moses]

It's in movies.

[Oscar]

Like, I know it's in movies. That'd Be crazy in real life.

[Moses]

But I guess there might be people.

[Oscar]

Who are attracted to married people.

[Moses]

It comes from somewhere.

[Oscar]

I had one more thing on the Taylor Swift wedding note, and I forgot it was the ring. And there was something else.

[Moses]

Ring, dress, venue, cake, hair. Designing the whole wedding, the curtains.

[Oscar]

I guess on the caption. I guess I would have loved if she would have done like, it's a love story, baby. Just say yes.

[Moses]

What did she say? I didn't see the caption.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your high school English teacher and gym and change her are getting. Are engaged or something like that.

[Moses]

Funny.

[Oscar]

Oh, you like it? Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is like the running gag of, like.

[Oscar]

Oh, is that. I didn't know. I guess. I guess I didn't get the joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's like in. It's like a swifty running gag because she uses such, like, big words in, like, her songwriting and stuff, and she likes poetry and literature. And Travis, he's dyslexic. She doesn't really read much. So. Yes, she doesn't really know big words.

[Oscar]

I thought it was like, an athlete, but then I was confused because I saw a tweet. Someone's like, well, who's the music teacher? So I was kind of confused, too. I'm like, when did you teach music? Like that seems like a place you'd be, but I get that now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's like, more. She, like. She's more of like a singer, songwriter. Like, her thing is she loves literature, she loves big words. Oh, and then that in the song that she used so high school for, like, the audio for her photos, that it's like, you know how to ball. I know Aristotle. So, like, he is good at sports. And she philosopher, reads books. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay. I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

You like it? I like the. After Moses, like, the caption. So that's good, everyone. I get it now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just thought maybe it's very millennial like, jokes, though. But again, that's my sister. That's her. That's her humor, and I support her.

[Oscar]

You stand by.

[Moses]

It's like saying your mom and dad are getting married or very. That thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yes, I did understand that part of it, but I did not know the English teacher. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

The lore there. Yeah, I know some people really hate it. It. But that's her. That's her.

[Oscar]

She's corny.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's corny, and I love that every.

[Oscar]

Time you say corny, I think you're saying horny. Like, it's like, I never hear people use that word. I hear, like, cheesy or Cornball. So when you're saying corny, I'm like, what? Corny. I never heard anyone use that word. I don't think corny.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what everyone was like, dragging her for. For being corny. But I'm like, that's who she is, so let her be.

[Oscar]

I love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Is she doing new music videos, any of that stuff?

[Trisha Paytas]

I hope so. I hope. I thought she would do a lead single for Life of a Showgirl, but I think she's just waiting until, I guess, October 3rd at this point.

[Oscar]

Do you think she'll put Travis in a video?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe he was in the ERAS tour, so.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I would love that. I love when, like, people put their real life partners, like Britney put K Fed in her video, and I just think it's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Taylor has never.

[Oscar]

No. Sabrina with Barry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't think she.

[Moses]

Well, maybe with a commitment of marriage.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Because if she had anyone else in videos, it'd be funny.

[Oscar]

I waited till you put a ring on it before I put you in a music video because I learned my lesson. I'm like, let me not just put.

[Trisha Paytas]

People in music videos. Yes.

[Oscar]

I was putting everyone in music video. I probably put, like, three or four people on dating music videos. And then we, like, break up like a month later after I spent $150,000 on a video. I was like, no, no, no. Lesson learned, Lesson learned. But you've been in the most. You've been in, like, five of my videos. So you've outlined probably more. Yeah, I guess, like, if you're counting background acting, they do okay. Put it on your real. Yeah, I love that. Jimmy Keeping me and Moses laughing to show that we like each other.

[Moses]

Maybe like, extend it longer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, show her.

[Moses]

Show me again. Show her again. Show me again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Repeat it a few times.

[Oscar]

There was a loving moment we had every time. Now that's all I think about because those are the only comments I get. I was like, ah, they do okay.

[Moses]

They do okay. They do okay.

[Oscar]

I love that. I like Mo as everybody. You look great in butter yellow. I really do like this outfit on you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wish it was more tan to do the butter yellow, but my life.

[Oscar]

I want to be tan.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess more relationship nude. It was Hailey Bieber and Justin Bieber.

[Oscar]

They broke up.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar]

Everyone was, like, speculating because they're like. Cause they thought, like, okay, I'm sorry. I don't know if I'm on this weird side of Twitter. Whatever is people being like, oh, he's first of all, I love all the captions he's been doing. Like, that's my wife. That's my girl Hales. Like, you know, I was like, oh, I love this energy. And then people would respond underneath my tweet and be like, this means they're about to break up. Like, this is Haley tweeting from his account. Like, you know, there's, like, all this stuff. And I was like, oh. And I've been seeing so many comments. So I thought, well. Well, like you said, people kind of have their hand on the pulse of things, and I'm never on the pulse of things. So I thought, well, maybe that's a breakup coming. No, not that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Well. Well, he posted besides those, I thought he was doing better. To me, I'm like, oh, he. He took your advice about posting, like, because after the Vogue cover, you know, he was kind of, like, negative about that, and you gave him the advice of, like, no, Justin, like, don't post this. Like, celebrate her more. And all of a sudden, he started posting just, like, beautiful photos of Haley. And I was like, oh. So he took Trisha's advice. That's how I interpreted it. I don't know if there's anything else going on, but.

[Oscar]

Oh. Oh, was that the news? Was that the hotel?

[Trisha Paytas]

Then he did a separate Instagram post of him shirtless after a workout, and he captioned it thirst trap for you.

[Oscar]

Oh, and no, he didn't. Yeah. Is it still up?

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see if it's still up.

[Oscar]

I did not see that. No way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Strap fur you.

[Oscar]

On his Instagram.

[Trisha Paytas]

On his Instagram. No, it surely isn't. I'll give you that. No, I'm not really a believer girl, but I respect everyone else's journeys. For sure.

[Oscar]

I see you like some of his posts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes I don't follow the man. I don't see him.

[Oscar]

No, I swear I saw you, like, one of his posts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not me. I think it was some other guy. Clearly. And then Haley commented on it. Just an eye roll emoji Haley did, so.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. So maybe people are onto something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I thought that was so, like, odd. And then obviously, like, the people in the comments kind of, like, feel bad for Haley. Some people said, I'll read some of the comments because I think they're funny. Bro forgot to tell his wife he's single. Another comment said, his wife is strong af Haley be fighting for her life in that marriage every day. Someone else said, thirst trap with the wife is nasty work. And someone replied to the eye roll Emoji and said not the eye roll. She's over his men really be embarrassing the wise for clout. And I don't know, he ain't cute anymore. Oh, especially how he treats his wife. At least treat the mother of your child with respect. But hey, that's them. So.

[Oscar]

You know, I would say that if it was anyone else, but I feel like it's kind of like it's Justin Bieber, you know what I mean? Like that's just him. He's just like a silly goofball. Right? I see it because there's like certain people, you're like, okay, that's just them. I don't even know like another like equivalent or comparison. It's like Britney, you know, you expect certain captions from her and certain like wild things she claims. And you're just like, that's our Britney, you know, like that's. It's like Taylor with the corny captions. It's like you just expect that. I think Justin Bieber, you just expect this. And Hailey Bieber, you just expect her being like my husband. You know, like that's, that's their, that's their shtick.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

You know, that's their public thing. And like, hahaha, we fooled you all you thought. And then next week he's gonna be like a my hails and then this will happen, you know, it'll just be back and forth, you know, And I think that's just their game. They love it probably, they probably get off on it, you know what I mean? You know, some people love it. They're just like, oh, this is so fun. We're trolling the public together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I don't know. I can't read Haley. I really cannot get a read on her as much as I like want to like her. Because I keep thinking too of after his album came out, like the day the artwork got posted or whatever, she like reposted it to her Instagram story and it was like, like, is it not clocking to you effing losers. And like I was like so aggressive, like, what? Why are you so mad at me?

[Oscar]

Like, because people are awful to her. I'm a Hailey Bieber's fan. I actually fully get her now and I think she is in on the whole thing. I really do. I really feel if it was like disrespectful or something weird going on in the marriage, I feel like, I feel like she would leave. She's got money, she's got roach. Stephen Baldwin, you know what I mean? She's like I think that. So I think she, she's, she likes the all of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I guess to your credit too that she knows obviously like the comment is gonna like is so public that like if she really felt some type of way, I'm sure it would be like a conversation and not like a comment.

[Oscar]

For sure. For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are right about that. Yeah.

[Moses]

I think her comment is reclaiming her space and showing force. Showing like, you know, I'm, I see this. Yeah, yeah, I see this. I'm part of the joke. I mean on it. I'm fine with it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses]

It's like because otherwise you'd be much more serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then my follow up was going to be. You know how I love my notes. What would you do if Moses posted?

[Oscar]

I was up ahead of you. As soon as you said that I was like Moses, you should do this. I love it. You know, I love a thirst trap.

[Moses]

Moses, she tried to do that.

[Oscar]

Justin Bieber. What is he wearing? Is he wearing boxer shorts? We could do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is shirtless and he is wearing it looks like Adidas workout pants that are rolled up to his knee and he has Calvin Klein on, boxer briefs on. But the Adidas pants are a little sagged.

[Oscar]

Oo, we can do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he has a beanie and a gold chain and he's in his gym. His home gym.

[Oscar]

Oh my God. We have a home gym. Let's do it. Let's recreate it. Moses has a Wuang Clan gold chain. You could wear it waiting for a little beanie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you should put on like fake tattoos. Oh I have. Yeah, I have PR for fake tattoos that you can put.

[Oscar]

Wait, what? That's so random.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got sent them a long time. I think ink box is what they're called but they sent me them for the heiress toy. Then I forgot about them.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's a very long time ago. Shout out ink box two years ago. Yeah, like we sent you those tattoos.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Moses can use them to for his Bieber cosplay.

[Oscar]

Oh, I love that would be everything. Do you have your tattoos on from yesterday from. Oh you want. Oh, there it is. He has some.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, there you go.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, those are giving Pete Davidson but I like it. It's a little unicorn and well Malibu.

[Moses]

Put it on me. We have matching to.

[Oscar]

Can we do that? Can we recreate the picture?

[Moses]

I don't know.

[Oscar]

Why?

[Moses]

I don't know. I'm just thinking one day Malik will looking at my Instagram account send me like something for your like it's not language. It's not language I would use.

[Trisha Paytas]

But maybe you can change the caption.

[Oscar]

But that's kind of the fun part of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true, that's true.

[Moses]

It's like water for your thirsty mouth.

[Oscar]

Okay, okay. Love it. But post it, post it, post it. Actually, I should ask you the question because I feel like you're boyfriend puts out the sexy trap. Every time I see it, I'm like, whoa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, tell me about it. Yeah, I first. When I was. When we first started dating, I'd feel some type of way. Now I'm just like, you're used to it. Yeah, it's his artistic expression.

[Oscar]

Oh, I love that. So that's what I'm saying. That's this. This is his artistic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Although his captions aren't like. I think the caption here. Like if you just posted this with a different caption. Thirst chap makes it the caption it. But like if it was my relationship and it was like specifically, like I am posting this specifically because I want you, like, like be thirsty for me. That context kind of changes things right now. It's kind of his artistic expression. You know, he. He loves an aesthetic. Shirtless beach photo and might go off.

[Oscar]

So yeah. Yeah, he does look great.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does.

[Oscar]

Living his best life. I comment on Darian's posts so much to Moses. I'm always just like, look where he's at. Look at these girls. It looks like he's in a different location today. I'm always. I'm very, I'm very, very intrigued.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, he is.

[Moses]

Nick will see him in Burning Man.

[Oscar]

I would God, please go daring to Burning man this weekend. I cannot imagine that'd be so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh my God. I just saw the. The orgy tent got blown away at birding Man.

[Oscar]

The orgy tank tent.

[Moses]

Tent.

[Oscar]

There's an orgy tent?

[Moses]

Yeah, there's like a dome.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Well, that's why you go now. I know. I was like, why were you going?

[Moses]

Okay, real, real story went time. Like I just like opened the thing, looked inside and I was like, hell no. And I walked away.

[Oscar]

Wait, why did you look inside like that? Why did you just peek?

[Moses]

Cuz you honestly want to see what's happen? Like if it's fit on the ground.

[Oscar]

On the dust and you said no, you walked away.

[Moses]

Oh, hell no. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Why Hell no. That's a little judgy.

[Moses]

The people that end up in a place like that.

[Oscar]

Well, you were ending up in that place. You were there in that.

[Moses]

That's what I'm saying I just walked by.

[Oscar]

Like maybe I was there, you don't know. And now you're judging me. I was in that tense, definitely.

[Moses]

No, you were not there.

[Oscar]

And orgy is crazy. Like when you think about that, that's like. What do you. What does that mean? Like there's just a bunch of people all having sex with each other.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get. Yeah. Getting passed around in theory.

[Moses]

Like I don't think most of it. Like, I don't think it's really most of the time happening, but what in theory, Sex in that. Yeah, I think it's kind of like, you know, it's almost like a brand name, but it's not really. What?

[Oscar]

What do you mean? Like in that tent, are people having sex or they're not?

[Moses]

I don't think so. Not that. Not as much as people think.

[Oscar]

Well, you peeked in, so what did you see?

[Moses]

Just people that was not interested in. But.

[Oscar]

Oh, so if you were interested in there. So were they just naked and just hanging out?

[Moses]

No, for the most part. Because if you know those kind of places and puddle cuddles and all that, usually there's a lot of like blankets and coats and fur and things. So you don't really see a of lot lot.

[Oscar]

I did not know at Burning man there's blankets and furs. All right, well, not for me then.

[Moses]

Anyway, there's no. Don't go. Cuz there's no dome this year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the orgy dome was blown away.

[Moses]

Blown away by the wind.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw this from Team Z. The orgy dome is totally what you think it is. A large tented, air conditioned festival fixture with beds where people can go to consensually with an id. It's good to know. Knock one out. Or at least it was before a recent windstorm in Nevada's Black Rock desert blew it apart part.

[Oscar]

So it's like legal to just have sex in the middle of the public?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I guess it's a specific area. Like it's, you know. Yeah.

[Oscar]

And they mark it like for sex only.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. There's a big sign in front of it that says Orgy Dome. And he's right. It is branded. Like it has its own Instagram page. So Orgy Dome.

[Oscar]

That is so weird.

[Moses]

There's a lot of like theme camps that have existed over the years, so this is one of them.

[Oscar]

So why did you begin when you saw the name Orgy? You don't. Would you just not know from the name that that's what that was?

[Trisha Paytas]

I would be a little curious too. Be like what the hell's going on in there?

[Oscar]

You peek in?

[Moses]

Cuz I don't assume that necessarily. That's what. Like it's Burning Man. Like you don't really know what some things don't. Are not what they appear to be.

[Oscar]

Oh my God. I just didn't think people do that anymore since like I thought it was like a thing in like the 60s.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, they happen all orgies. Yeah, they happen all the time.

[Oscar]

Like where though?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like warehouses, everywhere.

[Oscar]

What? Yes, a warehouse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bars.

[Oscar]

There's not orgies happening in bars. Yeah, in the middle of a bar.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been a gay bar. I mean this I haven't been in a long time. When, when was it? 20. I was in my apartment. 2016 maybe. I went to a bar and yeah, there's like a tent like in the back. Like in the back of the bar. I think post covered. They had to close it, I think. But yeah, there was a tent in the back of the bar and then you could do like a closed check and then that's where you would go if you want to like just start. Start sucking them things. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well that's.

[Oscar]

That's crazy. I miss the days where you just go across from the Abbey in that park with like no lights and do it. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sure that's still happening to you.

[Oscar]

No, they put lights up. Yeah, like bright lights like this. It's like stadium lights.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. I haven't been to any of these things in so long. I know. Yeah, but it used to be a.

[Oscar]

We might be going soon.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's an orgy. Maybe.

[Oscar]

Are we going to a club or are we going to something?

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought that was a ball. I don't think that's a orgy bar though.

[Oscar]

I think, I think going anywhere at night time sounds crazy, but it does.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't been out at night in a long time.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know how that works.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Oscar]

Do we go together? Do we meet there? I don't know. We're not that close, I guess. I mean, close, yes, but not physically.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

True. I don't know either. I feel like there's safety in number. So maybe that's how I feel.

[Oscar]

To you.

[Moses]

People want to. Somebody wants to stay longer. Somebody wants to leave early.

[Oscar]

Oh, what happened in New York? I think you, you. Did you want to say or did you leave already?

[Trisha Paytas]

You left first, but I think I.

[Oscar]

Was looking for you. I was like, hello, where are you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I Was. Yeah. I was taught people were coming and chatting.

[Oscar]

Oh yeah, should we wait for Oscar? And I was like, are you gonna come? Like, you can go. I was like, okay. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you. I didn't see you leave, but I was still there.

[Oscar]

I'm looking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you texted me. But I didn't see it until. Because I was just talking to so many people. I didn't even see it until I left. Yeah, okay. But also my hotel was like two blocks away, so it wasn't even that.

[Oscar]

I didn't want to leave you. Especially in New York. Especially in New York. I was like, okay, I don't want to leave you. I did text. I always make sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was just such a little socialite that day. It was true.

[Oscar]

So crazy. Cuz, like, I did have a friend.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had Nicole too. Nicole. Rafi was with me as well, so that also helped.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she was on Jeff fm, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was on Jeff FM when he was in New York.

[Oscar]

He's there now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he's back here because he just did Paige, like last week. So I think he's still here.

[Oscar]

Shout out, Jeff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Hope you're well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay, well, we'll figure it out. Well, I can't wait. If we do end up going out at night, that'll be a hot dog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's a big part.

[Oscar]

Like I told my. Like, I gotta do it for the plot sometimes, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. A three hour debrief. People are like, okay.

[Oscar]

I love a three hour debrief. For sure. Because I don't. I truly don't know if I've like, left the house at night in years.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't in a long.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Time I can't remember. Yeah. Really like to go out to like a bar. I mean, last year I did for Misha's special Vice's party. But.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you go first.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But I feel like that's the last time.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I guess our last time maybe was maybe the Wicked premiere coming back. It was dark and I was just like, crazy. People are just out at night. Like, especially like on the road when you're like driving on the freeway. Just like, it's dark.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

People are just driving. I can't see. I was like, how are people seeing? Are people seeing? Are people drinking? You know what I mean? Like, this could happen during the day too. That nighttime just, you know, added layer. Especially when it comes to Halloween. Halloween's around the corner. Just feeling a little like Halloween vibes everywhere.

[Moses]

Spooky.

[Oscar]

Spooky vibes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That kind of Brings me to Lil Nas X. Because you're talking about driving at night. Well, I drive in the morning when it's dark. It's still dark when I go. When I go into work. Specifically the day that he got arrested. I forgot to mention this on Monday, but weird. Like, I don't know how I didn't. Okay. He got arrested at 4. Like 4:40 or 4:50. And he was literally, like, on my. The block of my work. He was on Ventura Boulevard, literally. And he was in front of Lalas. I mean, like, if you're in la, you know, But Lalas. And my work is like, around the corner.

[Oscar]

That's like our spot during quarantine. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so he was right in front of Lala's when he was in the White Breeze with the cowboy boots where someone filmed.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

So. And I, like, would have passed him to get into work because that's like the street that I turn in. It's like right there on that intersection. So.

[Oscar]

Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I get there at like. I start work at 5. So I'm pulling in, like, around that same time. So I don't know. I must have either just missed him or just didn't see it. But it's so weird because then when I saw the TMZ video, I was like, that's, like, literally right here because I was at work, but so random.

[Oscar]

He was like, in the Valley. I thought he was, like, in Hollywood, which would make more sense because there's, like, bars there. But, like, what's in Studio City? Like, Lala's not open at 4am I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess he. I don't know. The whole thing is obviously, like, very sad.

[Oscar]

I know. I literally tweeted him, like, is he okay? Because everyone was, like, talking about him and, like, making fun of him, but I'm like, I wonder if.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, good. And if anyone missed it. He was arrested on Aug. 21 when police responded to a report of a nude man walking in the street on Ventura Boulevard completely naked. There is one video where he was wearing briefs, but there's also one video of him completely naked, which is so sad. Also sad that, like, someone recorded it and, like, sold it it to tmz or I sold it. It was. I. Someone must have just, like, saw him, recognized him and filmed him thinking it was like a key or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's really sad. Yeah. To. That's why I do wish I did see him because I. I would, like.

[Oscar]

What would you have done?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know, I wouldn't have filmed him at least.

[Oscar]

And.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like, yeah, that's. Yeah, I feel I'm usually pretty good because when I see like a dog or something on this, like that's running around with a. Without an owner, like I always stop and like make sure it's okay or if it's not okay, like save. So I feel like that instinct would have been similar, especially if I recognize.

[Oscar]

Oh, would you. Oh, right. So because it's him, you would have stopped. Would you have stopped for like, what if it was a random person that was like, maybe you didn't know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably. I mean for him I would have been like, this doesn't make sense. But it does make sense. Like it for the unhoused or something because they're. The river is so close and there are so many like unhoused people just like around. So that would make sense. But for Lil Nas X, I'm like this. Yeah.

[Moses]

But it's so hard to help somebody if they're under the influence.

[Oscar]

Because it is. Yeah. If you approach someone too, like, you just never know because obviously not him. But you know, back in the day people were like on bath salts and like eating people's faces. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Florida.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Never. Never Florida.

[Trisha Paytas]

And when the cops came, he charged at the officer officers and was taken into custody. He was transported to a hospital for possible overdose. And then he was placed under arrest for battery on a police officer. And he did just speak out yesterday he was released from custody after posting bail and on Instagram story he said, your girl is gonna be okay. Boo. Okay is gonna be all right. That was effing terrifying. That was terrifying the last four days. But your girl's gonna be all right. Although he still doesn't seem like completely like okay. And in the videos.

[Oscar]

Where's the video for from?

[Trisha Paytas]

He posted it to his Instagram. So he's at home or. Cuz he posted bail. He was picked up from Van Eyes court. Prison or jail or whatever. And jail, not prison. And yeah, was taken, I'm assuming home. But he still has to like go to court for the charges. So it's not like done and he could face jail time.

[Oscar]

He. He charged an officer. He said he like ran out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, he attacked him.

[Oscar]

It kind of. Yeah. It doesn't say anything else. Like he was on. He was on substances or. It's not confirmed.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was taken to the hospital for possible overdose, so I believe. But they didn't say like what kind of drug. And there's been like past videos that People have found from, like, February, like, when he's just on, like, Instagram and, like, he doesn't sound very, like, okay. He also had a weird, like, health scare earlier this year where, like, he kind of, like, how Justin Bieber, like, lost, like, control of half his face. He also had that happen to him too. So he's had some weird health scares.

[Oscar]

So weird. And what's it a result of?

[Trisha Paytas]

Justin's was something very specific. Lil Nas X didn't say what his was, but Justin's was a specific, like. Yeah. Oh, okay.

[Oscar]

That's so weird. It's like the same thing happening now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Losing control of half your face.

[Oscar]

That's kind of reminds me of, like, the Nikita dragon situation too, where it was just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Caught on film. It's people at their worst. Because, like, I'm not judging. Oh, my God. I've definitely done crazy like that, but it's like, at least it wasn't, like, filmed. Yeah, like, that's. That's like. So that's like another level of, like, humiliation. It's like the person's already, like, messed up.

[Trisha Paytas]

And people were, like, on Twitter that first day, like, before people knew he was, like, charged or anything, was like, oh, this is like a PR stunt for. He has new music coming out. Blah, blah, blah. Like, he looks, like, really unwell in the video. I'm like, I don't think this is.

[Oscar]

Like, pr, but I. I don't think. Yeah, that's like, what the. When Nikita happened to her, too. It's like, I don't think people go those extremes to get attention.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Especially if you charged an officer. Like, if there was just him walking for a minute, that's something else. Yeah, there's actual. It's really sad, but he's lucky to be alive. And hopefully this is, like, rock bottom.

[Oscar]

For him, especially in Ventura. Like, all that's, like, really scary. And he's by himself. That's also so odd to me, too. It's like you think those people are surrounded. Surrounded by people all the time, but I guess not. Like. And when I say, like, like famous people, you know, like celebrities, they seem to always have people around them. But I guess Amanda Binds was found some by fans on the street sometimes. Remember when she's like a Hong world and people would, like, stop her and when she was not completely well. But, like, what do you do? I guess. I don't know. I mean, can you call. You call the cops? Yeah, I guess sometimes that's, like, scary too. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It's a lose lose situation. Because even when somebody's under substances, calling the cops is even worse for them as far as what they perceive as happening, you know, because they're already like paranoid and all that. And that just kind of confirms their paranoia. Yeah, but you need to keep them physically safe. So you have to call somebody to restrain them and keep them physically safe. I know somebody that walked off into highway and got hit and that was it.

[Oscar]

They died. Jesus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was really in the street.

[Moses]

So he was lucky because at night people drive Ventura. People drive. Drive fast and crazy. There's crazy drivers there. He's just lucky to be alive.

[Oscar]

Been there. I mean, those are. That's like. That is. Yeah, that is scary. It is scary. But I love Lil Nas X. I actually don't even know like his music. I just like his vibe, his style. I bought his coach collection. Like, I like his vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. I don't like. What was that one song? Call me by your name? I did like that song as such stuff.

[Oscar]

Is that from the movie?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I probably inspired, I guess, but I like it. Yeah. I do like a little Nausex. And they get. Love his style. Like when he does the Met Gala. Like, he always serves.

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I hope he looks great.

[Oscar]

He did one with Billy Ray Cyrus.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was his first sing. Old Town Road.

[Oscar]

Love that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see Billy Ray Cyrus leak Miley Cyrus's music?

[Oscar]

No, but once again, dads, what are we doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Another dad. But the video is so Trish coated.

[Oscar]

Wait, no. Was it the one with the braids?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And him just like, giggling by himself.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Darian washed it and was like, this looks like something Trisha would do.

[Oscar]

I thought what it was, though. Like, I watched it. I didn't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess for his birthday, he's like, Miley sent me this song of her with Fleetwood Mac and he did like a little video of him, like, walking around with his braids and his cowboy hat, kicking his feet, giggling. And I was. It looks so like you coded.

[Moses]

I love it.

[Oscar]

No, I love. Hilarious. I loved it. But like, I thought the song was for him. Like, did she not write the song for him? It's like a new song.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a supposed to be like a special collaboration between, like, Miley and Fleetwood Mask Mac. And I'm sure. I guess she must have sent it to him because he likes Fleetwood Mac or whatever, but. And like, Fleetwood Mac doesn't really collaborate with people, so it was pretty big. And for him to just be like to leak it like that.

[Oscar]

So I thought it was like a song she wrote for him for his birthday or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I think he made it sound like that, but I think this is gonna be a new song.

[Oscar]

Moral story. Don't send stuff to your dads. My dad too. He will leak it to everyone. Oh, I just told your family in Cleveland. Oh, I just told this. Like, even our gender. I don't think we told. We didn't tell anybody because we're like parents will leak that. I loved it. I like Larry Cyrus. I like his vibe. I think he's getting better, right? Like he got a. He seems to be on the up and up. He looks better.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does look better. Yeah. Here's hoping.

[Oscar]

Miley obviously trusts him. She sent him the song. Although maybe never again.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least she's talking to him again, so that's progress.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he looked cute. I liked his little braids. I love that it was trish coated. I love that. I would love Billy Ray on this podcast, cuz, honestly. Wait, what? I thought he up and up.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's still up and up, but I don't know if he's that up. You know what I mean? Like, let's see how things.

[Oscar]

Right, Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, I maybe start with Brandy Cyrus and then we'll go from there.

[Oscar]

Love. I would love what's. There's podcast. I'm gonna be on that podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love. It's Brandy and Tish Cyrus. I forget what it's called, but.

[Oscar]

Sorry, we're Cyrus or something. Or is that not the one that might be it. I think they love to have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry, we're Cyrus. Yes.

[Oscar]

Good call. And I think they're like. Like they love the munchies too over there. Oh, love.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Someone told me that. I don't know for sure, but I think that's what that whole podcast is. Is they kind of just have fun and like light it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have more country music news.

[Oscar]

What is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton making a Wizard of Oz TV series with a modern musical twist set in Manhattan.

[Oscar]

Hate it.

[Moses]

What?

[Oscar]

I hate everything about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally each, like sentence or each word that in the headline. I was like, it gets worse and worse.

[Oscar]

Worse and worse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

First I'll start with Blake Shelton now. Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Blake Shelton. Gwen Stefani are. Yeah. Developing the TV series. They signed on as executive producers and the series will explore contemporary music infused YA retelling of the iconic books. I don't even know what book series it could be, but the wizard of Oz books. I'm assuming. But it'll be set in present day Manhattan. Dorothy will use the yellow brick road as a metaphor for the challenges and choices facing young adults today.

[Oscar]

What does that mean? Metaphor? Like you, but like I don't understand what. Like how's the yellow brick road a metaphor? How can you use that? Isn't that like a literal yellow brick road? Like there's literal one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know how they're going to turn that into a metaphor.

[Moses]

The journey of falling.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get this in the wizard of Oz. I guess I could understand the symbolism there. Whatever. I just follow yellow brick road.

[Oscar]

But there was a literal yellow brick road.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yes. And.

[Oscar]

But you can't metaphorically make it happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

But. Well, in literature, like there are like literal. There's sim. Like there's items and stuff or whatever. But like there's symbolism to it. So I'm sure there's. People have analyzed the symbolism like any.

[Oscar]

Of course. But I'm saying with theirs, theirs, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you know what I mean, like.

[Oscar]

They have to, they have to make a yellow brick road and then make it a different metaphor, I guess in modern day, which is fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also Manhattan could be the yellow tax.

[Oscar]

That's what I thought they were going to say is like, oh, we're going to use yellow tax taxis or something to make it different. So when they said that, I was like, I don't really understand.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't understand any of it either. I'm scared.

[Oscar]

All of it sounds. Is someone picking it up or they're just developing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Developing right now. And the producer also produced 13 going on 30 and isn't it romantic which is that rebel Wilson one where she is with Liam Hemsworth.

[Oscar]

Great movie tonight. I love it. I'm on board. That's the producer. You said on board.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love 13 going on 30. I. I did like Isn't it Romantic too actually.

[Oscar]

But I like Isn't it romantic better than 30 is okay. Not my vibe, I think. Cause it's set in New York and I didn't like any of the characters.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And this is also set in New York so that.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think I'm out on this one.

[Trisha Paytas]

What if they reach out for you to do a self tape?

[Oscar]

No, I'm done with self tapes. I got an update yesterday. I won't say the full thing. You know what? Monday I had the confidence. I was like, you know what? I still haven't heard back. Maybe I almost sent it to you and Jimmy like a little screenshot. But I Was like, let me not. But yeah, I can say they said that I was too famous for the role.

[Trisha Paytas]

What a compliment.

[Oscar]

I don't know if that's real or true.

[Moses]

Sometimes it's distracting if somebody is too famous.

[Oscar]

Yeah, most like. No, I agree with them because they did say that specifically. They're like, they think you're. You're too well known and would be distracting for this supporting role was what they said. And I was like, okay, I don't know. I guess that's better than hearing, like, not good. Because, like, they love the read, love the take. I was like, like, okay, but. But. And then was like, no, I agree. You are. You would be too distracted.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess you might have to do, like, you know, one of those transformations. Like, really? No, I was gonna say a wig.

[Oscar]

But I should have put a wig on that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, really not look like yourself.

[Moses]

I know, but they did. They loved it and they said it's put her on the radar. Sorry, on the radar of the people that were, you know.

[Oscar]

Because this was a really good role, though. And I really felt like I could have killed this because I think they.

[Moses]

Will write you roles, like, at think with you in mind. They will write a role that fits you because that's how it works. Like, you know, they're always the social media person or.

[Oscar]

I don't want to just play a social media person. I wanted to be a character.

[Moses]

No, but maybe it's like an evolution of that. You used to be that and now you're doing this, like something that fits more.

[Oscar]

This would have been a perfect fit. And it would have been really big too. It would have been huge.

[Moses]

It won't happen.

[Oscar]

Damn. Maybe they'll reconsider. Should I ask them?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. Do you send it again and then look completely unrecognizable?

[Oscar]

There was a specific, like, celebrity they were trying to like, like, oh, we need this type of person. And I should have probably just looked more like that type of person and stuff. I think the person they wanted because I was like, why don't they just cast that person? I think she lost too much weight. I really do think so. That's. That's in my head what I would think. I don't know if that's the case, but I was like, oh, that probably.

[Moses]

Makes sense, but you need to talk to actors and see from the amount of auditions and self tapes they do how many roles they actually get. It's not.

[Oscar]

Should probably get acting lessons too at some point. I should probably learn to act. I'm just kind of like winging it. But. But that one I had hip. That's fine. Whatever. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love here like when like movies come out and then you like who was almost cast.

[Oscar]

You know, I can't wait for it to come out so then I can send the self tape and yeah, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Madison Beer just said she was. She was auditioned for Superman but she didn't know that she auditioned for super. Which I'm always curious about. Like how did you not know?

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's what you don't know Clark Kent. You're like, I don't know what these characters are from. That's so weird. Okay, Mass weird. Love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love her too.

[Oscar]

But also like what?

[Trisha Paytas]

She cracks me up.

[Oscar]

That's. Yeah. Do you ever see that there's like a again my tik tok moments where it just shows me like highlights and there's like a clip of her being like, I was supposed to be in the music video. Yeah, that was supposed to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is that from when fan. If she was supposed to be in thank you Next with Ariana.

[Oscar]

I was supposed to be in the video but I was in my.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she has the water bottle in her hand. Yes.

[Moses]

I love that video.

[Trisha Paytas]

The little nod like.

[Oscar]

Like yeah, I love her and all. But. But my favorite part of that video is all the fans are gagged. No me when I announce this movie, I be like, I feel like I was supposed to be in that part. No, not that I was supposed to be. I just. But I, I. Yeah. I think it's cuz I didn't have a blue screen too. I think at that time we didn't have the blue fabric. And I think if I would have had the blue fabric it would have sold it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And if we would have hearsed. I think the line reader too needed to rehearse more.

[Moses]

It's not my fault.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe you should hire a professional line reader.

[Moses]

I was like, no, but they very. First of all, I am a professional line reader.

[Oscar]

You're definitely not.

[Moses]

I've done it for a long time now.

[Oscar]

You're. You're not bad at it, but you're not professional.

[Moses]

I'm saying like with. Their response is very specific and I think it's true because that's what the response was.

[Oscar]

She gets to be casted in Tyler.

[Trisha Paytas]

Perry's movies if they write her the roles in. Yeah, specifically like. Yeah.

[Oscar]

No, there was a Tyler Perry movie she was in called like Wedding Marriage Counselor with Brandi and there's no way he wrote that role for Kim Kardashian because she's just like a small part in it. She's like a receptionist.

[Moses]

But I think it's a bit different. Like when the creator of a show hangs out with a person and they put them in their show.

[Oscar]

He didn't create that. He didn't create a show for her. Tyler Perry.

[Moses]

No, but I'm saying. No, but if they're meeting, hanging out, and he's like, hey, you know, I have a little role, if you want to be. Oh, she asked to be in, and he finds her a little role. It's a bit different here. You've properly auditioned. There's no connection. The people just saw it, and they made the professional decision of, like, you know, because they want. Because the other people in, you know, they're famous and they want to have their fame shine. They don't want to be outshined. Like somebody.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they knew.

[Oscar]

I think if they knew, they would have wanted me in the movie. That's what I'm gonna go with. Because I think if they knew, they'd be like, oh, yeah, for sure. I would. I would love Madison beer in my movie. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

It could still happen, you know?

[Oscar]

I don't think so, babe. I think they said they went in.

[Moses]

A different direction, but I'm saying, you're gonna meet somebody. That's.

[Oscar]

That was my second part of it was. They were like. Yeah. So even though they went a different direction, I was like, oh, man, that's. Yeah, well, that's fine. I'm not an actress, so that's okay till the next one. Yeah. I think the audition tape for this one, I say no to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think so. I don't. I don't like. I like Gwen. I don't mind her. I don't know about Blake Shelton. I think he's dup and that's. And I go on record saying that, honestly, that's fine. I don't really.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, us having to edit this out in a year. Jimmy, write this down just in case. Put a. Post it somewhere in your apartment.

[Oscar]

I'm pretty certain. With most country stars, I'm good. You know what I mean? Like, you're not gonna see me collabing with Morgan Wallen or anything. I think Blake Shelton's on that list. Just in my. In my head, that country people, they kind of scare me a little bit the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah. The country star, isn't it? Anyways, Musicians.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Love some of them. Kelsey Ballerini.

[Oscar]

Kelsey Ballerini.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maren Morris, Casey Musgrave, all the girls you say? Oh yeah. Jelly roll. Good one.

[Oscar]

He's a good one. That's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Is he country? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he's like singer, songwriter.

[Oscar]

He just collabed with a country artist again. Another one. I don't know who someone. Let me see because I saw two on my tik tok. He's always clapping with somebody though.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't see. I just see either now. Ordinary. Ordinary.

[Oscar]

H. That's so annoying. I need to start really writing these things down because I was like really excited that he had like a new clap coming out but he had that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ros One with who Ros from Blackpink. That was a while ago though.

[Oscar]

No, that one. Well, as per usual, I'm not really quite sure what I'm talking about but if I find it I will will let you know if you care later on when it's not a hot topic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, maybe this can be the movie for you. There was a blind item and I know you love these. So much love. That said, these two a list exes who still have fans and media alike to this day obsessing over their almost decade long relate relationship is getting an adaptation on their messy on and off relationship for the big screen. It's still in very early stages of production but not sure how either of the new partners will feel about the this if it truly ends up being adapted and released. So it's just a blind item. Take it for a grain of salt. But the main consensus as to who it is is a Justin and Selena inspired romance movie.

[Oscar]

That's so funny. I was thinking like Brad Pitt or Jennifer Aniston or Pam and tell me I'm sold.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Selena and Justin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Which is kind of gaggy. I mean again it's probably just like fake news. But the idea people were commenting too on this like oh, but wouldn't they're like lawyers get involved. But then I'm like fan. Like this kind of inspired fan fiction thing is around like there's a lot the Harry Styles had that one with Anne Hathaway.

[Oscar]

Was that inspired by Harry Styles?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, and then the he had another one. It was like four movies after the after quad. Whatever four movies is called. I don't know. But yeah there were. Harry Styles had a lot inspired by him.

[Oscar]

That's so weird. Who's writing these like stories like middle aged women or what.

[Trisha Paytas]

What the after which is the book series after was. I think she was young. She was either like a teenager, you're.

[Oscar]

Talking about the after series. Okay. I thought it was called After Quad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, no, it's like a quad. Whatever. Non trilogy. Quady. I don't know, whatever.

[Oscar]

But yeah, we used to follow each other. We used to talk to each other.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Cuz she was like an influencer or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Her name was like Anna.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anna Todd.

[Oscar]

Yes, Anna Todd, that's right. Oh my gosh. Where is she?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar]

But she wrote them based on hairstyles.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It was inspired. Like Harry Styles. Like.

[Oscar]

Did you say that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's. People went to like directioners or buying the books because it's like, oh, Harry Styles fan fiction.

[Oscar]

So why didn't she get him to be in the movies?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think Harry Styles wanted any like involvement. But so everything is like changed. So like, you know it's about Harry. Like the details are similar. Like that tattoos, the bad boy. It's all like fictional, but it's inspired by him.

[Oscar]

Funny. So the aunt halfway one was a very giveaway one. He was like in a boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

That one was awful. Right? That movie was awful. Now that we are like a away from it enough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah.

[Oscar]

You were kind of gagged. I thought for a minute you liked it. No. Am I misremembering?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I. I think I just like Anne Hathaway and I. Yeah. And I like Nicholas Guillotine. What's he been in since Red, White and Royal Blue. He was in which is the Gay Prince Romance.

[Oscar]

Gay Prince Romance?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, which is. It's also based off books.

[Oscar]

Oh, I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

And now he's gonna be he man, I think. Yeah. Or Master of the Universe. One of them.

[Oscar]

Superhero.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, some ish superhero. Ish. But anyway, so they had that and then they obviously like. What's it called? 50 Shades is based off of Twilight.

[Oscar]

Oh yeah, I heard that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like legally they could change enough to like where if you know, you know that is inspired by Justin Selena.

[Oscar]

But they get like Tana's ex boyfriend to be the star.

[Trisha Paytas]

Brad Sousa. I got a roll for you, baby.

[Oscar]

He might be there. He might be there because you know, he has a kid, something more.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there is a girl on Tick Tock who looks just like Selena. I forgot her name, but I remember when she came out on the scene, everyone was like, oh my God, she looks just like Selena. She wasn't like doing it purposefully like Paige, you know, like she just like coincidentally looked like Selena.

[Oscar]

Oh, they should cast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Various Ava Longoria played plays Selena's double so bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sousa, you love gora. Okay.

[Oscar]

I think that was a good casting. And it kind of goes in that. In that trope that people love to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, the younger woman loses a Selena, like, reference.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But they get it because if you watch Only Murders, you're like, oh, that's our Selena.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

I think that could be cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Or I'm here for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. Yeah. I feel like, legally, they probably could somehow get away with it. And it is kind of genius because I feel like people would be, like, very. Like, they. Jelena still has a chokehold on. On pop culture, so.

[Oscar]

Yeah. People don't want to let that go.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. It is so weird. It has been so, so long.

[Oscar]

Justin's, like, literally has a baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And married, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then Selena's about to be married.

[Oscar]

To someone also very famous and very rich, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's weird how much of a chokehold they still have.

[Oscar]

Do you think Benny Blanco can still write songs for Justin Bieber? Good question. Or do you think she's like, no, that's, like, off limits because you were saying, like, Taylor is, like, friends with her exes and encourages it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So I was like, maybe Selena and, like, if Benny was still right. Because he wrote for Justin, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that is a good question.

[Oscar]

I wonder if he even writes for people anymore, if he's just, like, retired. I'm just making food still.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see. I thought he did something with someone recently. But also, I'm sure it's one of those things where, like, you have songs and then they go to, like, this, you know, the studio or something, and then, like, artists can come and be like, oh, I like this one, and buy it. You know how they do that?

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I'm sure that stuff happens a lot, too.

[Moses]

Happen with JoJo and Karma.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. That's how JoJo taught me about that.

[Oscar]

That's so funny. I know from Jeremy, because he's like, if you don't want these songs, I'm gonna, like, put them out for sale or I don't know, Whatever. It works. I'm like, yeah, you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

So maybe that happens, but.

[Oscar]

Oh, JoJo. No JoJo. News today.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's been pretty quiet lately, as far as I know.

[Oscar]

Isn't that crazy how. How come people are still out there and then all of a sudden they just, like, disappear and they're just quiet?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry. I guess she has stopped doing podcast interviews, cuz that really. How. Is how all the news was coming out she was. She couldn't keep her away from a podcast, so.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's true. I guess you just stop.

[Moses]

Only so many stunts you can pull.

[Oscar]

But even just in general, like, she just goes quiet, like you said. Like, I feel like I'm always on a tick tock. I'm always on a YouTube, I'm always on a podcast. And like when people just stop posting for a minute, it's like crazy. It's like they just take a break or they're over it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think JoJo's over. I feel like it's in her heart. She did just release a song like two weeks ago, so I think her having a little bit of a low key moment is.

[Moses]

She's probably working on something now.

[Oscar]

Maybe they're getting married.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, oh, Taylor, check this one out.

[Oscar]

This is the engagement. Engagements really do get a lot of press, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

It seems like when people get engaged, like, everyone's just like gagged over life events.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like a baby, a pregnancy announcement, a baby, an engagement, a wedding, a divorce.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, the divorces get it. I was gonna say we have. We're out of it. We're done. We're out of our. Shocking announcements. Shocking. Big announcements. I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Big life. Big life events. Yeah.

[Oscar]

That is crazy because like you said, there's nothing else big in life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Death, but.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. I wasn't gonna say.

[Moses]

But then it becomes your kids. Kids. Like, they start the cycle over again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

All of their achievements.

[Oscar]

Right, right, right.

[Moses]

That's professional life. Like, you get a TV show, you get a talk show, a movie.

[Oscar]

It's not as exciting as like it should be though. It should be as exciting. Like you said, everyone's like, so gagged when people are like, pregnant or having a baby. But people should be more gagged when big things happen career wise for people too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think her engagement got more likes than her album announcement, so.

[Oscar]

No way. That is actually crazy. I guess people just, like you said, so happy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

It wasn't on camera, it wasn't on video.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think as far as we know right now, no. But who knows?

[Oscar]

I can't wait for your proposal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, I think it'd be good.

[Oscar]

Do you think you're gonna kneel?

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I sent you that one tweet where it was jury's not out of Travis. Kelsey was on one knee or two. And I was like, if he did the two. If he reclaimed it from Shane, I was like, okay, that would make me feel better. I feel like, instinctively, you do go to two knees.

[Oscar]

So I thought, yeah, it sounds more comfortable.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, me too.

[Moses]

If you pray.

[Oscar]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's like my Catholic school instinct. Like, oh, get down on both knees.

[Oscar]

Yes. But yeah, body of grace.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have to work against that.

[Oscar]

I hope you do.

[Trisha Paytas]

On the both knees.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hope I don't.

[Oscar]

But yeah, just on next. I think he planted to do both knees.

[Trisha Paytas]

Travis or Shane? Shane.

[Oscar]

I don't think Travis is on both knees. Although, I don't know. It's kind of everything like you said, it's almost like you're worshiping. You're like at a. At the. At the feet of somebody and just like, you know, pray. I love. I love it.

[Moses]

We almost made it. What an episode. Without mentioning we're like an hour and a half in. We almost made it.

[Oscar]

I know. Well, you know, he's iconic. He has an iconic proposal. Because I was thinking about iconic proposals, and I was like, honestly, Shane's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the first one I do think of. Of course, it all remember the slushy noobs. It also like it all.

[Oscar]

Everyone comes back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, all proposals come back to that. Specifically.

[Oscar]

That one too is great because they. They proposed. You know, he. They're in Malibu, like, on a pier, like, with the ocean behind them. But it's like pitch black at night, and there's like no flash or anything. It's like you just see. Just see them in, like, darkness behind them. And I'm like, you're on like, a such a beautiful Malibu cliff.

[Moses]

Like, why did you content creator. It is an odd choice, but I know what happened.

[Oscar]

I know what happened because we go there for celebrations all the time. It's Mastros and Malibu, and they probably had dinner and you came on propose after. But you need to go. Like, what we do before birthdays, we sit down like, okay, let's go outside and get those pictures. Because you want to make sure you get it, because by the time you're done eating, then it goes dark. So that's my theory is they probably. He's like, okay, we're gonna have dinner, and after dinner, I'm gonna propose.

[Moses]

Just didn't time the sunset.

[Oscar]

No. And whoever took that photo, diabolical. Like, they really should have gotten more of, like, yeah, they should have had a little more flash.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder who did take it. Morgan Adams. Was it you? Oh, I don't know.

[Oscar]

That could be. I just watched a Morgan Adams video.

[Moses]

I think it's a waiter from the restaurant.

[Oscar]

Sometimes they do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, for engagements.

[Oscar]

Well, I know anything just to take.

[Moses]

A picture outside of the restaurant.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, but it's like, hey, can you take a photo?

[Oscar]

But honestly, I think maybe because of course, what they brought. You didn't want to bring Morgan to their engagement dinner.

[Trisha Paytas]

Garrett Watts. I don't know.

[Oscar]

He's taking the picture. You never know. I saw a Morgan video where she was saying everyone thought she had, like, work done or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why?

[Oscar]

I don't know. She's like, she showed a picture of her before and then after, and she. Guys, obviously I've changed. It's been eight years and I'm no longer depressed and I have a skincare routine. And, like, she's not that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, she, like, obviously, like, lost weight or whatever, but. But not like, not drastically.

[Oscar]

I think too sometimes when people say it, like, sometimes they do look drastically different sometimes. Who looked drastically different? Someone recently.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we're gonna say Cheryl Burke. Because I always.

[Oscar]

Definitely. Cheryl Burke. That one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always think of her.

[Moses]

Meghan Trainor was Meghan Trainor the Nicki Minaj.

[Trisha Paytas]

So High School Challenge.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that was. I love Meghan Trainor. Love. I do love her, but, like, whoa. Like, a really different person.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know she had, like, the Ariana hair. Like, like, everything was like, she.

[Oscar]

Her features look different. Of course she lost a bunch of weight. Of course. Like, they just look skinnier, but the features look different. Like, it's almost as if. Look, obviously she doesn't have anything done, but to me, it would look like an eye lift in the best way possible. Right? She has like this eye lift and all of a sudden it's like this. Like her lips, her face of her. The shape of her face has changed. Do you think that's happened just from weight loss? I mean, I don't know. I never lost weight, so I don't know. But I just think, like, what do you mean, you think the whole face shape changes? Because Morgan Adams is a perfect example. Lost a bunch of weight, but looks like Morgan Adams. Like, to me, I was like, oh, you look the same girl. Like, what? Obviously a glow up. She doesn't have, like, acne, but she's older. Like, acne is like a teen thing. And then she got older. So I don't know if that's.

[Moses]

The face is, like, in the other extreme now because I think people have, like three faces. Like, extremely skinny, normal and puffier, you know, like. But I don't know. She just shifted now to the extremely skinny face. You see features that you normally wouldn't see on her face. Face.

[Oscar]

To me, there's more than that. Because if that was that, that I wouldn't even comment on it. I'd be like, okay, people are just like, very thin, whatever. But I don't know, there's something so different about it. Cheryl Burke is like the perfect example of when she. There's no work done. I was like, girl, like, you are completely. That one is completely different. Like, I don't like the gaslighting. Megan Trainer. I guess you could say yes. I mean, she just lost a. A lot of more weight than we thought she had to lose. Maybe. I don't know. But I mean, she looks. I think she looks good, but. But damn, I. That, yeah, I think it would be fun to lose weight just to see if you look like a different person. But what if I looked uglier? Do you know what I mean? Not that any of those girls look uglier, but, you know, there's some people you look at. Obviously I wouldn't ever say who, but, like, you're just like, so scary. You know what I mean? Oh, my gosh. That could be me. What if I look like the Green Goblin all of a sudden? He's kind of hot. Who's that? William Defoe. He's kind of hot. I would look a little bone to foey, I think, if I did a little Ozemp Epic. I just read somewhere on Twitter that, like, fat makes you look youthful. So I was like, honestly? They're like, skinny is only if you're like. Who said this? Like, skinny is only if you're in your 20s and then once you're past, like 30.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw that on Twitter too.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Was that just a random tweet I saw? So, yeah, I thought that we're on the same Twitter.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. We literally. I don't even need to send you tweets anymore because I'm like, I just know you're gonna see us.

[Oscar]

I don't usually see. Sometimes I'm like, what is this? Yeah, But I was like, honestly, honestly, sometimes I just see something like that and I stick with it. I was like, yeah, you're right. I should keep the. Keep the fatsy. This episode is brought to you by JCPenney. Yes, JCPenney. And if you've been there recently, you know it's the place to go for jaw dropping looks at brag worthy prices. They've got something special for every style and budget. Not to mention rewards and deals that make finding those hidden gems even sweeter.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar]

In on the secret. But if not, it's time to ask. Wait, am I sleeping on jcpenney shop jcpenney.com yes, JCPenney.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's true, because when you're younger, people take fat out, but then when you get older, then they put, like fillers and stuff to put it back. Yeah, volume back. Because you just lose volume as you age, like naturally. So if you have less volume.

[Oscar]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Moses]

Yeah, you lose water. You basically dry out as you get older.

[Oscar]

Not me. Look at all this water still in me. Water retention. 10 out of 10. Oh, my God. We were at. We had our tacos after the Monday podcast and Moses made a joke. And I finally saw the joke on TikTok because you're like, I made a chat joke. First of all, I didn't know what you were saying, so I. Okay, so Moses knows I'm gonna edit something out when I stop it. So like, we're like film. And then I, like, stop so I can remember to cut the last part out and then I'll like, start again. So, like. But I know you know my secret now. So when I did it, Moses looked at me and he's just like, it was a joke. And I was like, okay, I didn't even. First of all, I didn't know it was a joke, and I just didn't understand what you were saying. That's why I was like, let me just cut it. I said something like, oh, these are like 10 out of 10. So good. He's like, or are they six or seven?

[Moses]

That was like, well, there's six, seven.

[Oscar]

Do you get it? I don't get it, but I finally got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Six, seven. And then you ate.

[Oscar]

Oh, was that it?

[Moses]

What? Oh, no. You need to be like a kid in elementary school, high school to get it.

[Oscar]

Get your joke.

[Moses]

Yeah, it's not a joke to just use the numbers.

[Oscar]

You told me it was a joke. You're like, it was a joke.

[Moses]

Yeah, to use the numbers is a joke.

[Oscar]

But what's the joke? Cuz I saw someone say 67 and like, not the 67.

[Moses]

Because it's a. It comes from a song and kids use it as a reference to the song.

[Oscar]

What's the song?

[Moses]

And what's kind of like basically, you know, kids always have to have their own private jokes that adults don't get. Right?

[Oscar]

So why are you in on this kid joke?

[Moses]

So if somebody asks you something and you would use, oh, six, seven, but all the kids are laughing like, oh, that's so funny. But adults don't know what they're talking about now there's 41. So I'm like, I don't know.

[Oscar]

Can you clarify this?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know the lore, but. But I did see a teacher talk about this on Tik Tok or something, how the kids like asked her to say this number and they were all laughing and she didn't know why.

[Oscar]

So why?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just their little.

[Moses]

It comes from a song, a rap song. And he's talking about the Street 67. And then they took it in somewhere else.

[Oscar]

So you put the 67 in my tik Tok?

[Moses]

Cuz people that get it get Easter egg.

[Oscar]

For who? The kids.

[Moses]

You have a big demographic, you know, you.

[Oscar]

I don't know if the kids are watching me, but okay. Anyways, it got the cutting room floor because I didn't get it. And Moses was like, it's a joke. And I was like, it's a joke. I don't get the joke. So we're cutting it because I never.

[Moses]

Know because she really liked those nachos. So she gave them like a high score. And to her it sounded like, I'm giving it six, seven. It's kind of a low score.

[Oscar]

Well, and you were like giggling like you do on the podcast. And I was like, we're not on the podcast. We're in real life now. So I don't know what this weird choice.

[Moses]

I gave me an opportunity that I could put in the numbers.

[Oscar]

Well, it made the cutting room floor on that one, but.

[Moses]

But anyway, speaking of professional achievements.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay.

[Moses]

We haven't talked about.

[Oscar]

Oh, this is my black belt trophy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoa, wait, that is big.

[Oscar]

I didn't know you put it down here. Yep, this is my 2002.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it says, oh my God.

[Oscar]

Black belt, first dance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me not even questioning about this big trophy.

[Oscar]

Honestly, same. I didn't even know he brought it down. My dad brought it up this past weekend. He found it in the garage.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is so funny.

[Oscar]

Grandmaster Young menu. Oh, almost the 23 year anniversary. July 27, 2002. So 23 years of black belt. So there it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is fierce.

[Oscar]

These were cool. I remember each trophy ceremony. When I got the little belts, I get the little trophies. And then this one, he said he kept every single trophies. Like, do you want all of them? I was like, no, but this one was kind of sick. So I was like, I'll take the black belt trophy.

[Trisha Paytas]

So can you do a little moves for us, Trisha Fight.

[Oscar]

Oh, can you? What do we Do Gay boy defeated. I just remember those. And I could do some kicks and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stuff too, but I only remember the kick form. I don't even remember the.

[Oscar]

Oh, the hand movement. Yeah, I don't either. I just remember there's like this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And then like blocking.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's like that with the palm. Yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

This and this.

[Moses]

If you. We never mentioned. If you subscribe to our Patreon, you might see us react to videos of Trisha doing. Because we have videos.

[Oscar]

We haven't done it yet, but we have to find a VHS player.

[Moses]

We will figure this out. I. I saw that there's a little machine that can digitize it. But anyway, we gotta watch those videos.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is here.

[Oscar]

I do have all my karate tournaments on.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is a good Patreon. And then we can also do a couple moves.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love breaking the wood.

[Oscar]

I had the wood breaking out. What'd you do yours? Like this, this or how you do mix.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like we'd have to do the kick and I.

[Oscar]

Or like a snap kick.

[Trisha Paytas]

A front. I would. The one I remember the most is you have to like flip. Almost like you go backwards. You go like around and kick. I remember you did a backwards kick. It was like. Like you twist.

[Oscar]

Like a roundhouse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Around. Maybe a roundhouse. I remember that.

[Oscar]

Were you using the top of your foot?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, the heel.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Were you like snapping it down or going straight with your leg?

[Trisha Paytas]

He would hold it like up like.

[Oscar]

This and you turned and kicked it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

That's really fancy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I only. Well, you fancier than me. I only got to orange, I think was the highest.

[Oscar]

Why did you stop?

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz he called my taekwondo, said I was eating. Teacher said I was eating too many egg rolls. Too many. Too many lumpia.

[Oscar]

That's. That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Lupia too.

[Oscar]

So Lupia's like egg girls is like.

[Trisha Paytas]

An Filipino egg rolls. Yes. I love when you get the rest.

[Oscar]

That's my favorite. I love that interview of her. Filipino lumpia. Oh, I never had a lumpia. You.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no.

[Oscar]

I don't know if I had Filipino food.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love lumpia. When my cat. Like in school, we had a. We had a lot of Mexican kids and a lot of Filipino kids. So every time, like we had like a potluck or something. The dream food was always amazing. Yeah, we always have like a lumpia.

[Oscar]

Was some Mexican rice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Literally, that's my favorite thing. Like rice to me, that's why we go to salsa and beer. Because at the best, like the best Rice ever. It's so good. I love rice. Mexican rice is my favorite thing in the whole world. I'm still looking for the Cokes. Like, you know how they had the Mexican Coke in the glass? They have Mexican Dr. Pepper in a glass bottle. And I tried to postmate it, and it came in a plastic one, and I was so annoyed, but I need to find the glass. Oh, a glass Dr. Pepper with, like, real sugar. Oh, I bet that. That hits so hard. Also, breaking news. Hot Topic. Hot Topic. Oh, we're on Hot Topics. I'm like, why did I say that? Dr. Pepper has followed me on Instagram?

[Trisha Paytas]

That is big.

[Oscar]

I was excited. I texted our group chat. I texted Jimmy and Oscar and everyone. I was like, look at what happened. You know, shout out Jimmy for always being excited. I feel like you guys lack excitement sometimes in the group chat, but I definitely always get.

[Moses]

I expect it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay. Of course they follow you, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

And I just see it late and then everyone's already moved on. I'm like, okay, tr.

[Oscar]

That's true. You are la. Jimmy is on it, and I love you.

[Moses]

So you get my reaction in real life. I'm not going to respond to the chat.

[Oscar]

You didn't even see the chat. Because I said the next day, I was like, oh, did you see Dr. Pepper follow me? Like, oh, no way. I was like, why? I didn't.

[Moses]

Well, sometimes you guys babble back and forth.

[Oscar]

Literally. Never. Literally. We have, like, two group chats a week. Like, we are not group chatters. So the fact that you're not checking it.

[Moses]

I'm too busy.

[Oscar]

No, you'll see little Jimmy one. Wow. Both of those are very exciting. Shout out Dr. Pepper. I love it. Honestly, I'm. I just love it. I don't. I don't care. I don't know. I know, like, sugar is bad for.

[Trisha Paytas]

You, but we all have our vices. It could be worse.

[Oscar]

What could be worse?

[Trisha Paytas]

Drugs.

[Oscar]

Oh, yes.

[Moses]

Alcohol.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, there you go. See?

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's true. That's true. Wow. People are so judgy. Like, oh, look at all this, like, sugar you have. And I was like, well, look at all the drugs in your system. You know what I mean? Like that. A good point. Very good point indeed.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Patreon will do martial arts. I also want to learn that freaking Cat's Eye dance now, because I saw someone tweeted that they're patiently waiting for Trisha Paytas to do the Cat's Eye.

[Oscar]

Daniel Perez always.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, was it Daniel. It had a lot of likes, though. It had like a thousand likes. Yeah. So the demand is there.

[Oscar]

Is it the dance with the choice of on one, or is it two separate things? That's not a choice of on one is the.

[Trisha Paytas]

The milkshake one is this year. Troy was last year.

[Oscar]

Oh, so the. The cat's eye is the one you were doing last time?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the. This one. And your backup dancer, Jonah, went viral for doing it. So I DM'd him. I was like, can you teach us this dance?

[Oscar]

Stop it. What did he say?

[Trisha Paytas]

He said, yes, of course.

[Oscar]

Love, Jonah. Yeah. He still dances as a pride. Was already with Paris Hilton that day. But he danced in the game music video.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Love him. He even did like a story time, like working with me. I was like, yeah. Because he's like, everybody, everything. It's like 300, 000 followers on there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw like on Twitter. Everyone was posting him, like, being so gagged that he did it so well. And I was like, what? I want to know how to do that. He does it really well. I went straight. I'm like, I want to learn it to the room. I know. I didn't. I looked him up because after I saw this and on TikTok.

[Oscar]

Oh, you didn't even know the correlation.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then I recognized and I was like, oh, it's Trisha's dancer.

[Oscar]

And then I went, you were on the set? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then I me, I remember me and Jimmy had to move away from him because he was shirtless and looked too good. So we're like, we don't want to be. Be next to him.

[Oscar]

That's so real. Any background work? I'm like, let me move away from this person. That's so real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Too attractive.

[Oscar]

So we.

[Trisha Paytas]

We shifted a little bit. But yeah, he really ate up that dance. And I feel like that'd be a good patreon us learning Coro.

[Oscar]

Okay. Love it. I'm down. Would he come here? How would it work?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess maybe we'll figure it out. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Cuz what do we do? We just did ours in the driveway last time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And that one was easier. This one is a little bit more, like fierce, I think.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I mean, if you want to learn choreo too, I can always ask. Study love. I mean, I can ask Donut too. I don't know. I don't know him well like that. But, you know, I'm sure he's. If he said he's down, he's down. Because you do it as a group. Where you just do it solo or.

[Trisha Paytas]

We do it as a group because, I mean, they do it all six of them, so.

[Oscar]

Right. Yeah. We talked about Cat's Eye and Glam today. Ari just watched the show on Netflix and she's like, it was so good. She was giving me all the tea about it and how, like, they put them through the boot camp. I need to watch it. I haven't watched it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's good. Yeah, they are somehow. They. Cat's Eye always a hot topic. They are always on my mind, though, so.

[Oscar]

Well, they also, like, expensive, because they were. She was, like, looking for tickets and the price have gone up since I got your tickets. Oh, my gosh. They're like $3,000 or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that was before. What fest was that? Lollapalooza.

[Oscar]

I think the recent one they were at. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

The tickets went on sale before. I think afterwards, they blew up even more. Yeah. Demand is crazy.

[Oscar]

They better upgrade to Sophie Stadium or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. They really do need to upgrade the venues because. Right. They're playing small ones right now. But I know what was on your Hot Topics, though, was the Crumble CEO.

[Oscar]

Oh, I love that. You know my Hot Topic. That was my one and only. And I was so gay, you know, talking glam. And then glam was just like, I don't. I haven't even really heard about this or whatever. I was like, okay, so, yeah, I was. I was. Well, I had a lot of. Yeah, there was a lot of feelings and emotions and layers to this because at first I was, like, gagged. I was like, oh, my gosh. First I wasn't gagged. Do you want to explain it?

[Moses]

Did you see all the videos that came before?

[Oscar]

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There were so many emotions because I was like, oh, my God. Gagged. Like, of course, yes. We all knew. And then it was like. Then he came out like, oh. And then everyone was like, I don't feel bad. And I was like, oh, there's so many. So many ranges of emotions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, T. It is a little complicated.

[Oscar]

Yes. But I love. First of all, I have to just say, I love crumble cookie. I love crumble. I will also say crumble Cookie.

[Trisha Paytas]

His name is Sawyer Hemsley.

[Oscar]

Sorry. Hemsley was already following me. I went to go follow him on Tik Tok and it said follow back. I was like, period.

[Moses]

Love this confirmation.

[Oscar]

You're the problem. You can't just assume a sexuality based on.

[Moses]

If they're your fan, there's a higher chance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, My God, that's crazy.

[Moses]

What do you mean?

[Oscar]

We love crumble. We do that pink box, you know, we love. Okay. I love Sawyer. He always hates me. Like, when I saw him in interviews, you know, I never even thought anything. I was never like, he's gay. He's not gay. You know what I mean? I was just like, oh, he's just like living his best life. He is from Utah and a Mormon. Correct. So those you just never know. Yeah, because it's like, is he gay or is he just a Mormon? You know, because that's a lot of them. Watch Mormon Wives, Secret Lives, more wives. All those is like, oh, good point. You know, everyone's like, they're all gay. I was like, they also could just be Mormon, cuz all. You know, they all look a little gay up there. Not look a little. Anyways, go cut whatever you want to cut from there, Jimmy. Kids can't look gay, but you know what I mean?

[Moses]

It's not look, it's mannerism. Just they have certain mannerisms.

[Oscar]

No, you can't say that either.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mannerism.

[Moses]

No, I'm not saying that. No, I'm saying the Mormon mannerism.

[Oscar]

Mormon mannerisms are what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

No, they're a little bit more.

[Oscar]

Baby. Okay. Oh, my God. I get what people are saying, right? Like, I got Grant was the first person to make a video which shout out Twinkin, a redhead. Because I do know Grant. I met him in person and I was like, that was the first video to be like that I saw. Obviously there's been a lot of videos being like, that man's gay, whatever. So I get where people. Yeah, there's certain mannerisms that people are like, gay. Even though we shouldn't be stereotyping people based on mannerisms. But, you know, I understood why people said what they said.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he officially came out of the closet on Instagram and the caption read, in short, over the past few years, I've come to understand and accept that I'm gay. It's taking me a long time to really process this part of myself and even longer to feel comfortable enough to say it out loud. For most of my life, I didn't have the clarity to answer the questions or respond to the rumors. And he posted this after Grant Gibbs from A Twink in a Redhead went viral on TikTok, where he said, I quite literally have never seen a gayer man. And then it went viral and got over 18.8 million views.

[Oscar]

18 million views is insane. Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then the comments were echoing similar Sentiments. One said, I just checked the crumble cookie CEO. After seeing him for two seconds, I already knew. I've never had my gaydar go off so fast. And then after, after Sawyer posted his Instagram, grant did post a half joking apology.

[Oscar]

I know. I was like, is this real? Is this not. Is it satire? I thought there was some sincerity behind it.

[Trisha Paytas]

There were some. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I guess it really wasn't my place. But he was still like making jokes or whatever, so. Oh right, yeah.

[Oscar]

Mentioning his hole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Which is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah. And again was dicey because yeah, if you go to you see who he's following. He does follow like a lot of like gay thirst trappy guys and stuff. And you know he does Apple Dance of Charlie Xiaxo. Yes. People could assume based on that or whatever. But at the end of the day like speculating and also just like projecting someone's sexuality. Just something you shouldn't do, you know. But I get it because also like for me too like from my own experience, like oh, coming out wasn't a big deal. So sometimes you're like, oh yeah, yeah, so gay. And then you don't realize like for other people it is so much more like a, a struggle. And there's so much more like between like religion or family dynamics or whatever. Like they could also put themselves in danger by coming out, you know, so you kind of forget that like it is such a privilege to be able to be out and have it not be a big deal. And so you could be like, yeah, it's okay, who cares. But like to other people, they don't have that same privilege. So you can't really just like, you know, know be out here spilling everyone's tea.

[Oscar]

I know, I feel like, yeah, I feel like back in the day like Press Hilton was like the first like out people on his blog. Like he'd always talk about like John Travolta or like, you know, other people that people speculate are gay. But yeah, I think what we've learned over the years is like, yeah, it's like can be dangerous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And sometimes you like think and like I've done it before, it's like very common where it's like, oh, you just like, oh yeah, that's okay. Because they seem like they are pretty much out, you know, but like again until someone publicly says it themselves. And it's not something for like other.

[Oscar]

People to like kind of especially like yes, like joking but not joking at the beginning is like Mormons culture specifically because like that is the thing on the Mormon wives is everyone says all their husbands are gay. They go on trips with the boys and they leave their wives at home, and everyone's like, they're all gay. And it's like, I guess it's like, sad because it's like, I know too, from experience. Like, I dated people who are gay and stuff. And a lot of times their family's like, super religious. Like, if they're like, Amish or something, like, they can't. They would not be accepted if they were like, gay. So they'll never come out, which is like. Is sad. But I know people still to this day, they're like 45, 50, and they just will never come out because their family would never accept them. So they just wait for their parents to die and whatever, you know, so they can, like, live their out life. So I think with Mormons, especially from what I've gathered, and I did a show in Salt Lake, like, so many people were like, yeah, like, it's not really okay to be gay in the Mormon thing. Salt Lake City accepts gay people. I think Mormon church, from what I know, not so accepting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And he. Sawyer wrote that in his caption too, how like, he was still struggling with, like, his. His beliefs. And yeah, that goes against, like, his sexuality. And that was obviously, like, a hard thing for him to come to terms with.

[Oscar]

So that's like the struggle because it's like, you don't want to, like, lose all your friends and family because you're gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And if you really do, like, love the church and so many people do, that's like, it's like, so sad to me because you probably don't want to leave. It's kind of like this, like, little community and you don't want to be kicked out just because you're gay. So I, like, feel, ah, I feel for him. I don't know. And then everyone was like, you know, because then, like, the bright side, flip side is like, so many people were like, excited for him. And like, I know so many people because I posted. I'm like, come on the podcast, you know, because I also offer still stands would love you on the podcast because crumble cookies is our jam. You know, you sent. They sent us the Kylie cookies and love a crumble cookie so much. But as opposed to that, my story. And then so many of my friends were like, oh, my God, he's so hot. Like, oh, my God, need him. You know, everyone was like, obsessed with him. So like, in a way, it opens up so many People like him. But hopefully. Hopefully he's okay. Hopefully, he doesn't get like, everyone's like, he's rich. He'll be fine. But, like, sometimes. Not always the case. You know what I mean? Sometimes, yes, people will, like, hang out with you because you're, like, you know, rich or whatever. Like, you're the CEO of Crumble, which is kind of booze, but. But at the same time, sometimes those.

[Moses]

Mormons don't want the whole company to run, and you don't want your private life affecting the company.

[Oscar]

And I would imagine it would help the Crumble image.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. That's what people were saying too. Like, oh, this is so obviously pr. But I'm like, I don't think so. I mean, in this political climate.

[Oscar]

No, I don't. I definitely don't think PR knowing just that Tik Tocker and this how it all went to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So, I mean. Yeah. Unless in this climate, to be like, it could. I mean, it could hurt a business. But that's true.

[Oscar]

We were just talking about that last episode too, how people are so, like, comfortable just being, like, outwardly homophobic and it's, like, cheered on, like, specifically on Twitter. That's why, like, I'm, like, not on there as much. But, like, with the Snoop Dogg thing, so many people are like, yeah, I'm with him. I. This makes it, you know, just being so. Yeah. Outwardly homophobic and being, like, applauded for it. So that's true. People are weirdly anti gay again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

But crumble is so, like. What's the word? Like, flamboyant.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you know, pink and.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, it's like pink and just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Grinders missing an E. Crumbles missing an.

[Oscar]

E. I was like, that's so tea. But everything, you know, their little cookie cutters they had and stuff. I just. It makes sense. I loved it for that reason. It's so girly.

[Moses]

Pop comes from the day of, like, donuts. You know, the pink box was kind of like a symbol for the dessert and all that. It just. It just sucks if there would be a person to be like, oh, I'm not gonna eat crumble because of this. You know, because of the CEO, which is ridiculous.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I mean, you're not gonna turn gay if you eat a cookie. Yeah, well, I mean, it's fine if you're gay, though. That sounded weird. I would love to turn gay eating a cookie. You know what I mean? Like, that would be cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at, like, Dylan Mulvaney with, like, you know, she did one Instagram story for the beer and then everyone's like, boycott this beer.

[Oscar]

So, so weird too. On the. On that. People getting so. I know. Don't know. Honestly, this day and age. Yeah. People get so upset over everything. Did you think he. You think he went public because of Grant's tik tok?

[Trisha Paytas]

I kind of think. I mean, he kind. He said that because of, like, all these rumors and stuff, blah, blah, blah. He's just going to publicly say it, I guess it was bringing. So if it got 18 million views, that does bring so much attention. Probably a lot of gay attention. A lot of gay just being like, come out already, you know, so. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it was like, fine, you know, like, let me just do it. And I feel like maybe it was one of those things too, where it was like he was still figuring it out and, like, comfortable. Ish. Because he was doing the apple dance and he was, you know, following everybody. So he's semi public. So. But to come out on that scale, I guess, too, you know, it's.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. Well, he's also cute because I also think, like, sometimes I hear, like, people think Todd Chrisley's gay. Right. But, like, nobody wants him to come out, you know, or cares if he.

[Trisha Paytas]

Comes out, you know, maybe now because he got ripped in prison. But.

[Oscar]

Wait, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

What does that mean, ripped?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, he got. He worked out a lot in prison, so he's.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, okay.

[Moses]

That's right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not his hole. Is that what you thought?

[Oscar]

Oh, the way you said it right.

[Trisha Paytas]

After that, I was like, what is that? Really? You never heard that you got ripped?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you get ripped, it means you get really muscular.

[Oscar]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, but you just say that he got swole or something. Ripped is crazy. If I get ripped, I gotta get sewn back together. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

You've never heard the phrase get ripped? He got ripped.

[Oscar]

You're giving birth to a baby and you get ripped or something. But okay, got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now that you're in the. Now that you're a gym girl. That's the slang. Yeah. You can go on your gym friends and be like, oh, you looked ripped today.

[Oscar]

At the gym. My mom wants to quit the gym. That's a whole different thing. She does these like, I think I'm gonna quit the gym. I was like, after a week, I was like, we didn't get to our first Pilates together.

[Moses]

She needs to come back on Patreon and explain herself.

[Oscar]

I know. Honestly, she has a whole. A whole spiel about It. But oh my God, she doesn't want to walk with her wet hair through the gym. She's like there's no, there's no like tunnel from the dressing room or dressing room. What is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Locker room.

[Oscar]

The locker room to the pool. You have to like go out a little bit to get to the pool. Like maybe it's like, maybe it's like a one minute walk. And she's like I don't want people to see me with my wet hair. I was like oh damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Yeah. The controversy. But anyways, Ted Chrisley is jacked. Now that's another word I would use.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he's pretty. Yeah. Pretty muscular. He worked out a lot in prison.

[Oscar]

I think he. Okay, well let's not speculate cuz everyone says he is.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he did deny I had edit Todd Chrisley interviews. So that's how I know all this. But, but he, they, he did get asked about the rumors that he had a gay affair and he said that if he was going to be gay it would be someone a lot. If he was going to have a gay affair it would be with someone a lot hotter than whoever people are saying he had an affair with.

[Oscar]

Oh, there's like, there's a person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. A specific person. They said. I don't know any of that's what I'm saying.

[Oscar]

But when you're older sometimes you're just like, you know, you just don't want to ever come out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess.

[Oscar]

Or maybe you're just straight.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Who knows?

[Oscar]

Yeah, well it does sound but like sometimes people. Yeah. I don't know if anyone ever wants to be added but maybe I don't know. Do you think some people are appreciative? Like thank God, like I wanted to be out?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think for the most part probably no. But maybe like if they're it gives it's the push they needed. I don't know. It may be rare circumstances.

[Oscar]

I will tell you no one's ever thanked me for insinuating their gay. They're kind of like damn, you ruined my life. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, yeah, that's a good lesson.

[Oscar]

Which is that's what I thought of immediately. I just like I only have like maybe one regret my whole life and I'm just like ah, maybe I shouldn't have like said like this insinuated someone's gay, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Can ruin their life again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes you just don't realize how big of a deal that is for someone. So yeah, I think it's a pretty big deal. It is a Big deal.

[Oscar]

I think it's like, the biggest deal. Yeah, I don't think there's any bigger deal than that. Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well swear.

[Oscar]

And Grant.

[Trisha Paytas]

Grant, Yes.

[Oscar]

I was like, bring Grant on the podcast with it. Because I was like, no. What? And I love him, but, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

But he's young and I. Gosh. And not to just, you know, like, excuse it, but damn. I was calling. I was accusing people of being gay left, right and center when I was young.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Again, it's like one of. I understand because I've been there, too. It's like. Well, like, it just seems so obvious, but still, until that person is. But I guess I learned that as I got older, though.

[Oscar]

So, yeah, that's why we're here. We're here to inform the youngins.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

The youth. What's okay, what's not okay. That's why we get more woke as we go by.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is funny. It's, like, weird, though, because I think the majority of the consensus is like, well, yeah, obviously he was gay. He's doing the apple dance. He follows all these gay people.

[Oscar]

Like, wait, is the apple dance gay? How do I not know this? You keep saying it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, yeah, I mean, if you're like, a. Charlie's demographic is very gay, you know, I didn't know this.

[Oscar]

That's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is pretty mainstream.

[Oscar]

So that's what I thought. I would just think, like, wasn't everybody. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like, yeah, you're right. Everyone's kind of doing that. So, yeah, T. Okay.

[Oscar]

She was like, gay icon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I keep everyone's posting, like, screenshots of who's following and stuff. Even Darian was like, yeah, I saw Trisha's story and I have 50 oomphies with him. I'm like, okay.

[Oscar]

Well, that's pretty crazy, though, because Darian does probably follow more of a select group of people. Then you're not like, just a Lady Gaga and stuff, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. He is very particular because. Well, he was. But he. His ratio. He's very specific about if he follows someone, he has to unfollow some because he likes his ratio to stay the same. That's very. Yeah.

[Oscar]

What's his sign? Oh, he's a Taurus.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's a Taurus.

[Oscar]

That seemed Not Taurus. Like, but maybe not me. Definitely. When people are like that, I need to keep everything like this and the number 10. Like, are you a psycho?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what do you mean?

[Oscar]

I know what you mean, though. There's a lot of people like that that are very much like, well, I got on top.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never think about, like, I never think about my follow ratio.

[Oscar]

Never. I never think about being ratioed. I just wanna, like, I found out what this was the other day and I was like, what? Because people. People used to say to me back in the day, like, oh, you're getting ratioed. I was like, I don't know anything what that means. And then like yesterday I was like, oh, okay. I found out.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so funny.

[Moses]

Mr. Bis learned that what that means.

[Oscar]

That's what I was thinking.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was thinking that too.

[Oscar]

I was thinking that too. That's how I found out about it yesterday. Because I was just like, oh, like you deleted because you're ratioed. Are we talking about Mr. Beast?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, why not?

[Oscar]

Yeah, let's go. Are we outing him now? Wouldn't that be so crazy if Mr. Beast came out as gay? That would be. I mean, it wouldn't be crazy, but like, that might be. Huh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he is engaged to a woman, so it would be kind of gaggy if he. That they broke up and he came out as gay.

[Oscar]

That would be. We love it. We'd be supportive. Or not. Because I guess that's the thing. Yeah. Like, some people are like, he's rich, he's fine, whatever. Some people don't support. You know what I mean? Like Mr. Beast coming out the b. He's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what. You know, Eileen.

[Moses]

I'm like, it's like when Kevin Spacey got in trouble and they was like, guess what, I'm gay. But everyone were like, no, no, wait a minute. Did he come out back then?

[Oscar]

Yeah, he came out fish.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm pretty sure.

[Moses]

Yeah. Know him after the con.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Wrong time to do it, buddy.

[Moses]

He thought people will cheer and embrace him and they're like, hold that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right. Yeah. He apologized and came out as good.

[Moses]

And they're like, hold up, I get it.

[Oscar]

Cuz, like, yeah, people do love to, you know, they want to support. They're like, yeah, you're out. But then not him. Like, no. Yeah. Don't give a bad name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So Mr. Beast reacted to the Rolling Stones list of most influential influential. And he posted number six, who was Caleb Huron, and said, according to this list, a guy with a million followers is more influential than me. What did I do to piss off the Rolling Stones? Which. The Rolling Stones, for the record, is a band. The Rolling Stone is the publication that.

[Oscar]

Is actually so funny and so crazy. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so Crazy.

[Moses]

He was just, like, right after him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. He was number seven. Mr. Beast was number seven and Caleb was number six.

[Oscar]

Oh, he. Oh, first of all, like, Mr.

[Moses]

Beast was number seven, so there's like, six more people. He's top ten. So if he was six, he would say that about five. And if it was five with Caleb.

[Oscar]

Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And he. He was not aware that Caleb has those. She. They. Shooters. And he learned. He learned the hard way.

[Oscar]

I was so gay. I saw everybody. Everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's like. Like you always say, when the world can unite and say, like, you are wrong. It was one of those situations.

[Oscar]

And he learned real quick.

[Trisha Paytas]

He learned really quick not to mess with Caleb.

[Oscar]

I do love that he had so many. Well, we always talk about him on the show and how he's just, like, absolutely killing it because he's got, like, a Netflix special, like a comedy special. Like, he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's a Devil Wears Prada.

[Oscar]

He's. He's mainstream now. Like Liza Koshy, Emma Chamberlain and Caleb Herring for sure are like, the two. And honestly, I think you can become more mainstream when you. You don't have a following like Mr. Beast because, like, Mr. Beast. Beast could never do what Caleb's doing. He'd be in Double Product. He couldn't have, like, his. You know what I mean? Like, no. So I think that, like, happens more. I love, like, yeah, I love that people just came from. Rosanna Pansino came for him. She was like. So many people were just like, this looks better. Like, what are you talking about? Who else was above Mr. Beast?

[Trisha Paytas]

I have the list.

[Oscar]

Okay, I need to know. I didn't see the list.

[Moses]

I. Speed was number one.

[Oscar]

Oh, love him. I need to collab with him. I think he's my fave right now. I just found out about him a couple weeks ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I'll do, like, the top 10 at least. I think it's a full. It's a 25. I'll do the top top 10. Number 10 is Alex Cooper. Number nine.

[Oscar]

Wow. She'd be higher up, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nine is Camila Arau Aroho from Bop House.

[Oscar]

Love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, icon.

[Oscar]

Icon in the BOP House.

[Trisha Paytas]

Eight is Hassan Piker.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And number seven is Mr. Beast. Six is Caleb. Five is Quinn. I'm so happy for her.

[Oscar]

She should have been number one. She is, like, everywhere. Killing it. Love she. My fave.

[Trisha Paytas]

Number four is Kai Senat.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Number three, Ms. Rachel. Number two, Drew Ski. And number one was. I show Speed.

[Oscar]

Who's Drew Ski?

[Trisha Paytas]

He's a Sketch comedian.

[Oscar]

I think I agree with everyone. I just don't know Drew Ski. But I love everyone else. Actually, I don't know if I said it. I just know he's very popular.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, he's really popular. I would think Ms. Rachel would kind of be number one, but. Or maybe at least number two.

[Oscar]

But I love her, too. Number one in our household for sure. Ms. Rachel is the most influential here. I'm surprised. Call her Daddy's Not Higher. Alex Cooper. I feel like she's just, like, taking over social media and, like, mainstream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I wonder, like, what the criteria was for the list. But I do like that it wasn't the. Like, I like that it's different because everyone is easy to do a list, and it's like the usual suspects, you know, that are on the top. Yeah, but I like that they mixed it up and didn't just put, like, based on follower count, you know, I think they took in, like, other projects.

[Oscar]

I think, like, are they influencing? Yeah, they basing on, like, people influencing us to do stuff, you know? Like, I don't really know. Like, I show speed. I, like, know him, but, like, does he, like, influence people to, like, buy or. He's just like, he. He could. He's just popular. He's just, like, the most popular person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he does have 135 million followers, so.

[Oscar]

On what.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's cross platforms. But he's really big on Twitch.

[Oscar]

No, I know people say he gets, like, 100,000 people, like, every time he's live or something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

He gets. He can get up to 1 million live viewers. 1 million concurrent.

[Oscar]

I need a clap.

[Trisha Paytas]

He set the record for most concurrent streams.

[Oscar]

Where is he at? Is he here in the us? Where is he?

[Trisha Paytas]

I actually don't know. Oh, he's from Ohio.

[Oscar]

Where? I'm from Ohio. I have Ohio roots. I love when he's from Ohio. Meg Salter. Cleveland. Steve Harvey. Cleveland. Drew Carey. Cleveland. Anyone? The Paul brothers. I guess they're not from Cleveland, though. They're from a different section, so. Oh, my God. So he's the Midwest. I love Iow speed. I need a. I need a collab.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying to see if. Yeah, I mean, I don't think the Paul brothers are even on this list. The von was 19. Alex Earl was. Theo von was 19.

[Oscar]

Oh, I'm sure he's not higher. People, like, live for him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dave Portnoy was 23.

[Oscar]

What? Yeah, I thought it was, like, the top 25 under 25 or something. What is he on the list for. That's crazy. What?

[Moses]

He's not even probably value Baristuhl as a whole.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I would love to know how they got this criteria. Because Dave Portnoy being influential is insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

They focus on his pizza reviews.

[Oscar]

No, I no longer trust this list. What do you mean? Oh, he's the most influential pizza person. No, no, I couldn't tell you anything.

[Moses]

Yeah, Mr. Beast should have been more upset about that. Like he should have put it. I can't believe he's that close to me.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Catching the smoke with Caleb was crazy. When there's Dave Portnoy on the list.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jake Shane was 11.

[Oscar]

Love. Love that. Okay, Any other females on there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Teffy was on here. I saw Drew. Drew Fuela was 13.

[Oscar]

Oh yeah, that makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Alona Mayher was 16. She's an Olympian. Aneka.

[Oscar]

She.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know her, but she was number 18. Oh, Sabrina Breyer. She was 20. She is that girl. She's in New York. She's the blonde girl that does all those tick tocks.

[Oscar]

Okay, that, that's. I love her. But also like crazy, right? Like, that's why I don't like influential. Like, what is, what is the criteria? Because she just comment. But I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so it said they're in our. I guess they took into consideration their like mainstream products, products, projects. Because it talks about the shows that they're in. This is like the overview talks about them being a Spotify playlist. It says we started with dozens of names. Then with the help of data from the software and analytics company Creator iq, with their followers engagement rate in audio growth and audience growth over the past year, using those numbers and our own editorial judgment, we ranked these creators, all of whom are shaping the culture of. Of 2025.

[Oscar]

Okay, I'm with them. Dave Portnoy. Crazy. But everyone else. And I like Dave. I love Dave. But I mean, it really is like wild. That's wild. Like it's. You know, you know what I mean? I feel like, yeah, that's okay. I mean, I get Mr. Beast being on the list, but him saying that is. I wonder why he said that. I wonder what made him tweet that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess just seeing like the person that's deemed more influential than you having a million followers and you're the number one channel on YouTube or whatever. But he did delete it, which is kind of rare for him. I think he's really odd because he does like to shake the table or whatever and talk a big game. But he is very also at the same time. Very much a people pleaser. Like he doesn't. He doesn't like when people don't like him.

[Oscar]

Oh, interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've noticed with Jimmy Donaldson because think about if he.

[Moses]

If his ego was so hurt putting the tweet out. His ego is even more hurt getting ratioed.

[Oscar]

He did reply to someone and just be like, oh, I checked out his content and actually I get it now. I was like, okay. Like. And then everyone was like, you just got ratioed. And that's why I deleted it.

[Moses]

So if you're a billionaire like that you have better things to do at that time.

[Oscar]

That too. It's like when you have like so much money and you're so famous, you really have to beef with other famous people. That's like. You know what I mean? Like it just doesn't.

[Moses]

And understanding how it works because if somebody has a like a meteoric growth. Growth. Like.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

In that year, it's more significant.

[Oscar]

That's true.

[Moses]

Because Mr. B did not grow that much in that year.

[Trisha Paytas]

True.

[Moses]

You know, I mean he got up there and I'm sure at the beginning of his career he was number one at some point and he was number five and he was number 10. So at this moment there's some people that are up there, there's some people are shooting on the way there.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Caleb had the year for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because for the record, it is of 2025. So get to. Yeah. Most.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like I would expect him to be a bit more professional in understanding the numbers and how people reach those conclusions.

[Oscar]

That's why I think by your logic, Day Porter definitely shouldn't be up there. Because overall, yes. Barstool. But this year, I think it was last year cuz he left a podcast. He's out. So he's really not out there anymore influencing anyone at all. So. Which he doesn't need to. He's rich. Whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I guess those pizza tickets, maybe.

[Moses]

They have the pizza category.

[Oscar]

That's crazy.

[Moses]

In the pizza category he's.

[Oscar]

Oh my God.

[Moses]

That is.

[Oscar]

Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because isn't. What's. I'm forgetting his name, but the food influencer. What's his name?

[Oscar]

Which one?

[Trisha Paytas]

That. The main one that everyone like, like credits.

[Oscar]

Keith Lee.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I. When I think food influencer, I think Keith Lee because he like makes or.

[Moses]

Breaks, you know, in a long time.

[Oscar]

No, he's the. And they're like, they travel to different things. I still see him and he definitely still influences like people for sure. That is. You were so right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

Dave Port above Keith Le is actually insane. I know I would have loved this list. I. Now I question it because of seeing that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The top 20, I guess, are solid. I guess 24 out of 25 I can understand.

[Oscar]

But that is so wild.

[Moses]

I'm pretty sure I had to talk with somebody there to, you know.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses]

People know that those lists are coming. They're like, hey, sure, I'm gonna make sure I'm in there.

[Oscar]

They did say the last part was our editorial.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, our editorial stuff.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So that could just be someone. How about him? Okay. I'm definitely team Caleb on this too. Mr. Beast, you, if anything, you should be friends. The people above him, you know what I mean? Because that obviously that means.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, those are the new, like, cool kids.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So were they all men? All the top seven.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Ms. Rachel.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ms. Rachel. Quinn. Of course.

[Oscar]

Yes, yes. Okay. Two queens. Love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then Camilla and then Alex.

[Oscar]

So shout out Camilla. That is. But she. I guess I only know I. Well, not only now I know her, but, like, from Tana is how I was introduced to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

And she was like making like, I don't know, $7 million a month or something up against 10 million something crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I guess she got. Ironically, she got her start after making a cameo in Mr. Beast Squid game YouTube video in 2021.

[Oscar]

No way.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what this was article says.

[Oscar]

In what year? 2021.

[Trisha Paytas]

2021. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, God. I thought she was, like, really young. I thought she was like 20, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Guess what, she's only 23.

[Oscar]

Oh, so 2021. So she's like, really young. She like 19 or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, so bunch of pervs went out and checked her out, which, I mean, good for her. But also, like, guys are so gross.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

They saw like a 19 year old on Mr. Beast and like, okay, let's go check her out.

[Trisha Paytas]

But everyone else, like, I do like, that is like a make. It's a variety. It's different kinds of people. It's not. But just the most obvious people.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Not just tick tockers or.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So nobody even noticed the list until Mr. Beast made this tweet.

[Oscar]

Well, I mean, I saw the list out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

That's the only way I saw it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw like, Quinn. I saw Quinn was the first reason I saw because she posted to her Instagram story because she really didn't know. She was like, what?

[Oscar]

Oh, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Quinn was like, she had no idea.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's so interesting. Because I always, like, know what not. I guess I've Never been on a list, but I usually know when things are coming out about me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. On Instagram, she was really, really gagged.

[Oscar]

I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then. So she was the first time I saw it. Then I saw Hassan also was surprised by it too.

[Oscar]

So maybe he comment to Mr. Beast like, what are you doing?

[Moses]

This is a bad look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did he say that?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think I saw that. He's like, wow, breaks bitterness or something.

[Moses]

I think I have it because he thought.

[Oscar]

And he was number eight. So Mr. Beast is in the sandwich of them.

[Moses]

This is funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

This list. A guy with a million followers and.

[Oscar]

More influential than me.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did I do to piss off the Rolling Stone Phone? Okay, dude, there's no way Mr. Beast posted that. That's so funny. Wait, he did? Oh my God.

[Oscar]

He actually did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my.

[Oscar]

Oh, that reaction is crazy. You know what? I get live streaming now because, like, because like you said, if we were here during Taylor and getting your reaction. That is kind of everything.

[Moses]

Reaction checks you all the time. So they tell you something happened. You're like, right. Then you just direct it or not direct it to watch it.

[Oscar]

What if they troll you though and tell you something?

[Moses]

That's like they do, they do.

[Oscar]

That's so funny because it was kind of giving. Like when you were on your live stream, you won't mention but the drama that happened that you were just shook for a minute because you were like, oh, like what? Like you're shook for a minute. Cuz you. When you find out something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Live processing. Yes.

[Oscar]

Actually, yeah. I should never go live. When I process something, I'm always just like, I have like a panic. Like there's like a fear that comes over me when I. When someone tells me something. Like before I figure out like what's actually happening. Because I do tend to panic at times like that. That's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. That is crazy. I saw the tweet that I love the most was. Do you know, I don't know if you know Caroline Kwan, but she's like another twitch streamer. But she had such a funny tweet too. Let me find it. Oh, she was like explaining it to Mr. Beast. She said, hey, so higher follower count does not directly equate to more influence. Caleb has less followers than you. Than you. Pretty much everyone has less followers than you. But he's hilarious, insightful, and a refreshing voice in the comedy world. You should check out his work and you'll see that his rankings had nothing to do with you, but everything to do with him. And I was like, what a great way to clock it. Yeah, yeah, she worded it perfectly.

[Oscar]

I love everyone coming out to, like, support. Did he say anything?

[Trisha Paytas]

He just thought, like, he replied to that one being like, oh, actually check it out.

[Oscar]

And no Caleb.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he posted on his Instagram story. Oh, let me see what it. He just posted like the screenshot of the tweet. I think that's so funny because I think I follow him and Caleb never really posts on Instagram, so not post.

[Oscar]

On like TikTok, like casually or anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think so. I follow him on Instagram and he rarely, like. He only has like three posts. Yeah. He has two photos and then now he's posting Mr. Beast. He posted a Mr. Beast tweet and just that screenshot and said, thank you, Rolling Stone. It's an honor. Love has comments off. Very Taylor Swift of him. Comments are.

[Oscar]

I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. I love Caleb.

[Oscar]

Oh, man. If it was me, I'd be like on TikTok right away. Just like reacting 5,000 times to it. Like green screen, you guys. I'm going to be all over that. I love. I love that he's just so low key. Then like, post. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was cool.

[Oscar]

Cooler, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that he, like, literally my TikTok is like 80% him and Drew and Brittany Rosky.

[Oscar]

So. Yeah, I always see Trixie's on there too. Yeah, they're the.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love them.

[Oscar]

They are. You know how we always talk about there's like, there's a group that's always like, cool. Every, like, few years it was sister squad minus James Charles. But like, it was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

And there's other groups. Why would the British people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes, the Zoellas. Yes.

[Oscar]

What were they called? Anything British Invasion, I think British.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Not that. I guess Blog squad for a minute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The Grace Help. Big group.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. That was like Tyler Oakley.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

There's always like a group of like. And they are definitely the coolest.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Love them. Yeah. My whole tik tok is that too. That's smart. You know when you find funny people link up with other funny people and then you create a mega. A mega funny. Yeah, I guess Shane had some moments. He had some groups.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, me.

[Oscar]

Andrew, you're so right. We're the original. I feel like some people like, oh, I loved what's his name? Garrett and Andrew and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you're the season one the of Shane and Friends.

[Oscar]

I'm technically season two. I met season. I met Shane season one with Bri and Steve Green.

[Trisha Paytas]

See I don't know that era, really.

[Oscar]

The Fine bros. Totally sketch. Like, he was in that. Like, Shane was in that circle and they were all friends, and that was like, that was the original Shane and friends. Like, they were like a tight, tight group. And then I was like, I want to be in this group so bad. And then I joined, but then he didn't stay friends with anyone. So then it was like a new friend group. And I was like, me and Drew. And there's a girl named Kat. Sketch Shadow Cat, Shawna, Malcolm. And then there was 3.0, where he meets all his new friends off of Tinder. I guess he met Garrett off there. He met Ryland off there. So then he starts forming, like, a little boy band, and I'm kicked out of the. I guess Morgan gets to be the girl in that. But she is the sister of his boyfriend Nepo.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's the Nepo friend.

[Oscar]

I'm probably a little jealous of Morgan, if I'm being real. Yeah. Because you know what? I did feel a little. Cause like, Drew kind of kept in that group for a minute and of. I kind kind of did feel a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you had the vlog squad.

[Oscar]

No, not. Not at the beginning. I think I had to go find my new group.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar]

I was like, okay, wow. I'm not going on these ghost hunting adventures. I wasn't invited to the Roosevelt Hotel. So I was like, all right, work. So then I was like, yeah. So I really was trying to find a new group actively and was not searching for vlog spot. Did not even know who they were. Truly, truly did not know David Dobrik. I was like, I don't know know who these people are. Wrong one to get into. I guess I should have done some research probably beforehand because I was not the one to get into.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, I don't think that research would have stopped you at the time, but definitely not. Yeah.

[Oscar]

The more toxic, the better. I was like, this is the group I wanted to be in. Yeah, you're right. But I really did try to find groups even in 2019. Like when I was trying to be, like, in Key and JC's group, I was like, that was the wrong group.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy. I will give you that. That was crazy.

[Oscar]

I want to be with the Sam and Kobe. You know, there's so popular.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. They just did a huge collab.

[Oscar]

I saw actually at our taco place, I think one of their girl, Kobe's girlfriend came up to us. Oh, wow. She was so beautiful. I didn't know who she Was. I think she. No, she had an influencer because I asked her and said, no, my boyfriend is the influencer. I was like, oh, who's your boyfriend? She's like, oh, from Sam and Kobe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she was gorge. She was beautiful. Remember? Do you remember her name? I don't know. She was beautiful. I get very intimidated when any beautiful young girl comes up to me because I always look like a troll. Oh my God, isn't that so scary?

[Trisha Paytas]

I noticed because I don't. A girl came up to me at the gym again the other day and she was like really pretty too. And I realized my voice gets 100 times gayer. 100 times gayer. So queen body tea, like the highest page. Like, dolphins are hearing me. Like, I go so high.

[Oscar]

I weirdly do that too. I always get scared.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get so gaga. Gaga.

[Oscar]

What is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. A million times gayer. Just, I'm like, yes, you're safe.

[Oscar]

You know, like, oh, I see you're signaling yes. Okay. I guess I get more like, don't look at me. I'm a ugly troll. I'm so fat and disgusting. Like, you know, I get like really insecure around like really pretty girls. And obviously now I'm older, so I don't feel like any insecurity because I'm like, I'm just this, like, you know, I'm just a mom.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm a mom.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. So, you know, which I, I love, I love this era for me. But yeah, especially when I was younger, don't put me around a pretty girl because I always say, that's Tana too. I remember when she come around like even in the vlog spot, even though I was like 30 still at the time, but I remember being like, so. Because she was like this young, like 20 year old blonde, bleach blonde. It was like everything I wanted to be. And I was just like still trying to like, yeah, compete. But now I look at her and I'm like, oh, beautiful. And I love when a beautiful girl comes up to me. I just always assume they're like an influencer. I'm like, are you an influencer? Like a little crop top on. And I loved her. She has a grand funcheck. No shake. You know, my boyfriend is. And I didn't want to like step into that world, like, period. You're such a queen. I love her for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sam and Colby, I'm sure they could fit. Yeah, I think they could fit on there.

[Oscar]

I like how we basically think it Fit together. Yeah, they probably could fit together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think they could. On the pink chair.

[Moses]

That'd be the name of their new podcast. Sam and Kobe, can they fit?

[Oscar]

No, absolutely not. That's crazy. That was me. Can I fit on this? I don't know. Need to get a bigger one.

[Moses]

Do I know them? Can we fit them?

[Oscar]

No, we do not. Size shade here. Well, the great thing about this chair, it really does fit everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you probably fit all three of the Sternolo triplets on there too.

[Oscar]

Oh, you love them too, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love the Sterniolo triplets.

[Oscar]

Do you have you DM them?

[Trisha Paytas]

Booker, reach out. Hey, Trisha, can you reach out to the Sternolo triplets?

[Oscar]

Love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sure they could fit. Yeah. Do they fit?

[Oscar]

I love. Do they?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we have like a little like.

[Moses]

A gate and then they try.

[Oscar]

No, no, that's my worst nightmare is going on a podcast and be like, do you fit?

[Moses]

Then Jimmy put some of the effects of the chair breaking.

[Oscar]

That's so triggering. So triggering.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I did have a follow up to the Mr. Beast of it all. A video, a clip came out, I guess from the water live stream with Aiden Ross. You know what? Aiden Ross looks great in a situation. And that does make me raise my eyebrow. So for context, this was like one of the w. Like the streams for getting. What was it? Clean water, basically team. The. One of the team water streams. And I guess it had been a few hours and the workers had been like on this production. And one of Aiden is like, oh, should we get them some water? And then Mr. Beast goes, goes, no, they're fine. And Aiden's like, no. And then he talks to someone behind the camera. He's like, hey, can you just get some water for these workers who have been here all day?

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. Stream on live stream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, so I'll play the tik tok for you.

[Oscar]

What?

[Moses]

This is raising money for water?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. There's so many clips that came out of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. Our boys are done. We good, you guys? Hey, yo, we got the thumbs up. You guys. You guys want some water?

[Moses]

Look at him.

[Trisha Paytas]

A modern bit. Get them some water, please. Citra citrus, when you're watching, can you please get the two hard working medicine water, Please, please, please? Thank you.

[Oscar]

That is crazy to like answer for someone else.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, no, that is crazy, Jimmy. I mean, I guess what do we expect from the. The man behind Beast games where girls couldn't even get a tampon? So, you know.

[Oscar]

Oh, man, that's a bad one. Also like that. Okay. Wow. Yeah. He's kind of the worst, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I do flip. Because he does do good stuff. I mean, it is good that he is raising, you know, money for clean.

[Oscar]

Water, but let's give some people some water. He's like, we're raising money for clean water, but you can't have any.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a 18 hour live stream. Well, you want to go 24, so.

[Oscar]

We'Re gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We should do it too. I don't know when. I mean, I do have children, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have to schedule it. That's what they. They like, you know, when. So when they go to sleep, usually sometimes they'll stream themselves sleeping, which is a little dubious.

[Oscar]

Oh, I see. So, like, they'll. But they only sleep for eight hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who?

[Oscar]

My kids?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. I mean, like people who go 20, like, for days. Like, sometimes they'll just have the camera on them sleeping, but. Or sometimes they'll, like, have someone take over. You know, that's what we schedule.

[Oscar]

Programming a little tag team action. Because I would have to sleep. Sleep. I have to spend some time with my kids, you know, so that's like scheduling going on. That is true. I guess there's no streamers that have kids, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sure there are streamers who have kids, but also, why does it have.

[Moses]

To be 24 hours?

[Oscar]

You can do even an 8 hour stream though. Like. Oh, my God.

[Moses]

Yeah, but you've done it pretty much. You guys sat down for nine hours to film. That's how the whole thing came about.

[Oscar]

I mean, I'd be busy for like a whole day, I guess. I guess if it's like, work. Yeah, I guess that's the whole, like, key in too.

[Moses]

Cause.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's true, that's true, that's true. We gotta. We gotta raise some money. Maybe we'll raise some money for the Crumble CEO.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the Crumble CEO is okay. I don't know if he needs that.

[Oscar]

Like a little GoFundMe in case the Mormon shirts extradites or maybe Crumble goes under. We don't know. I don't wish that, but I'm just saying, like, we could do a GoFundMe for him. I'm just trying to think of something LGBTQ, you know. Hard to find charities these days. So if you have a charity, let us know below. I guess not. Sawyer. I love you, lawyer. I'll send a GoFundMe.

[Moses]

I think he should be the one donating.

[Oscar]

You think he's made A lot of money, probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Company Y is the owner or the CEO.

[Trisha Paytas]

Co CEO.

[Oscar]

Oh. Oh. He didn't create it. He didn't start it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if he started it.

[Oscar]

Who started Rumble? Who started the Mormon church? Ronald Hubbard. Who was it?

[Moses]

Yeah. Whoever found the things in the ground.

[Trisha Paytas]

Here's our founder. Founder.

[Oscar]

Oh, I don't know what that means.

[Trisha Paytas]

Co founder. So I guess it was him and another guy or person. I don't know if it was fair or not. Yeah.

[Moses]

Confirmation.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But he's. He's on. I mean, he's probably half of the company.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

A good amount of.

[Oscar]

They're expensive cookies, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't. I think he's okay.

[Oscar]

I don't think he's Just a lot of sugar. A lot. He's ok. He's so fit. Are you eating those cookies? Yeah. You're definitely not eating those cookies. That is for sure. That's why they gave it to the Kardashians. Remember, we tried the Kardashian cookies and it was like, Kris's favorite cookie is this double chocolate cake. And I was like, there's no way she's eating this double chocolate.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she won't even eat a pancake at ihop.

[Oscar]

Right. Even for the sponsorship. It's like, girl, put a bite in your mouth. I would love a crumbl. Cookie collab. Maybe one name. Let's rap. All right. This was. This was a great Hot Topics day. I'm really proud of all of us in this room today. I'm proud of you guys for being at home and making it through the day, because sometimes that is a victory onto itself. But I hope that you have an amazing weekend, and I hope that it's filled with everything you've ever dreamed of. And just know that it's not about lists and where you rank on a list in the world. It's about just being you and yourself, and that's it. That's all you can ask of someone. Right? It's not about being number one or number seven. I'm not even on the list, and I'm still happy. We're still thriving. Me and Oscar have plans to go out at nighttime. Like, we're conquering fears here one at a time. Love you guys. This has been another production of Just Trish, and we will see you in the next week's episode. I can't wait.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're giving Trish talks right now, the way you're signing off.

[Oscar]

I do love a little Trish talks.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Thanks, Oscar. You look great butter yellow is your color. Congrats, Taylor Swift. And check out E.T. i guess they have a show every night. Can't wait to see what tonight is. See you guys. Bye. And Moses, we love you. Bye, Sa.