Austin McBroom EXPOSES Catherine Paiz & Himself + Justice For Halle Bailey

Summary

Episode Summary: Just Trish – "Austin McBroom EXPOSES Catherine Paiz & Himself + Justice For Halle Bailey" Release Date: May 15, 2025

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1. Introduction and Welcome [00:49 – 01:33]

Trisha Paytas opens the episode by welcoming listeners to "Just Trish," highlighting the current "gay era" and sharing updates about her new merchandise at Just Calm. She enthusiastically mentions her oversized shirt and the positive reception of her latest gay-themed music video, which has garnered attention from prominent platforms like Pink News and Grindr.

Trisha Paytas [00:49]: "Welcome back to Just Trish, your bi-weekly Internet escape for all things pink and rainbows... We have lots of hot guys and I guess... little harnesses. Bling harnesses."

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2. Upcoming Tours and World Pride Announcement [01:34 – 02:14]

Trisha and her co-host Oscar Gracey discuss their upcoming "Eras of Trish" tour, mentioning sold-out dates and the excitement surrounding their appearance at World Pride in Washington, D.C.

Trisha Paytas [01:34]: "We're coming for that number one spot. Watch out, Trixie and Katya."

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3. Pop Culture and Product Highlights [02:15 – 05:19]

The duo delves into various pop culture topics, including Shantay’s origins from RuPaul's Drag Race and the significance of specific phrases. They also discuss Pop Mart's popular products like Crybabies and Labubus, emphasizing their cuteness and the joy they bring to fans.

Oscar Gracey [05:16]: "You deserve it. You deserve all the labuboos."

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4. RuPaul’s Drag Race and Music Video Insights [05:20 – 14:47]

Trisha addresses feedback on her music video's lyrics, particularly the line "Shantay you stay, Shantay away," and clarifies the intention behind it. They discuss the cultural significance of the term "Shantay," its French origins, and how it aligns with Drag Race terminology.

Trisha Paytas [06:05]: "For context, we have a line and it says, 'sashay, you stay, Shantay away.'"

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5. Navigating Relationships and Gossiping [14:48 – 39:02]

A substantial portion of the episode focuses on relationship dynamics, specifically the balance between venting and gossiping with a spouse. Trisha and Oscar discuss the importance of having a "safe space" within a marriage to share frustrations without escalating negativity. They emphasize elevating each other and maintaining positivity.

Trisha Paytas [33:05]: "I think we are just aligned. So it's fun, too."

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6. Television Show Discussions: "Righteous Gemstones" and More [39:03 – 55:52]

The conversation shifts to TV shows, including "Righteous Gemstones," praising Walton Goggins' performance and discussing other series like "Hacks" and upcoming Ryan Murphy projects. They express enthusiasm for new shows and actors, blending personal opinions with pop culture analysis.

Oscar Gracey [55:31]: "I feel like this show is perfect for him. That's a perfect character for him."

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7. TikTok Trends and Sound Promotions [55:53 – 84:47]

Trisha and Oscar explore the realm of TikTok, discussing sound promotions, dance challenges, and the importance of staying updated with social media trends. They reflect on their own experiences with creating content and engaging with platforms like TikTok Shop.

Trisha Paytas [78:08]: "TikTok Shop host."

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8. Controversies and Influencer Drama [84:48 – 137:57]

A significant segment addresses the controversy surrounding Austin McBroom and Catherine Paiz. The hosts dissect the allegations of infidelity, custody battles, and the ensuing public fallout. They critique Austin's handling of the situation, his public statements, and the impact on his family, especially the children involved.

Trisha Paytas [124:53]: "You just have to have some sort of healing, some sort of spirituality."

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9. Justice for Halle Bailey and Broader Social Issues [137:58 – 143:00]

The episode concludes with discussions on broader social issues, including justice for Halle Bailey. Trisha and Oscar highlight ongoing court cases, public reactions, and the societal implications of celebrity misconduct. They stress the importance of accountability and the impact of public figures' actions on their communities.

Oscar Gracey [142:59]: "And it's just so odd, the mental gymnastics, like, justify everything that he has done."

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Trisha Paytas and Oscar Gracey engage in candid and sometimes controversial discussions on current pop culture, personal relationships, and societal issues. Their unfiltered commentary provides listeners with an inside look into the complexities of being public figures navigating fame, personal drama, and the ever-evolving landscape of social media.

Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Paytas [00:49]: "Welcome back to Just Trish, your bi-weekly Internet escape for all things pink and rainbows."
• Oscar Gracey [05:16]: "You deserve it. You deserve all the labuboos."
• Trisha Paytas [33:05]: "I think we are just aligned. So it's fun, too."
• Trisha Paytas [124:53]: "You just have to have some sort of healing, some sort of spirituality."
• Oscar Gracey [142:59]: "And it's just so odd, the mental gymnastics, like, justify everything that he has done."

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

His face is so annoying. I can never look at him the same again. Like, he is just. He's just awful. There's so many people where you're like, oh, my God, I can't believe this person's gonna be like, a parent. Like, that's a good example of it. Like, you're worried about yourself during childbirth. You're a cheater. You stepped out of the marriage. You stepped out on your, like, children. Like, you know what I mean? Like, if you're so. To me, I'd be like, go watch whatever you have to do.

[Oscar]

Go Goon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Go goon. Goon. All day. Goon Camel. You know what?

[Oscar]

I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her name is Trish. She's got the dish.

[Oscar]

Yay. Hello.

[Trisha Paytas]

Welcome back to Just Trish, your bi weekly Internet escape for all things pink and rainbows. We're just really in our gay era right now, and I love it so much. Thank you guys for tuning in. We're, before we get started, new merch at Just. Just Calm. I'm wearing mine oversized today, but the letters and stuff can be different if you get it more fitted. Normally I'd wear a 2X. Today I'm wearing a 3X and I feel like it's just like falling off the shoulder. I just can't even help it. So go to Just Calm. We have three new shirts up there, and there's a furry tote and a little makeup bag and everything. Fun. Thank you for the orders. My mom loves shipping them out to you. Also, the gay music video is out and it's doing so well. Pink News and Grindr have both commented and reposted it Big.

[Oscar]

That's big coverage.

[Trisha Paytas]

Think we're coming for that number one spot. Watch out, Trixie and Katya. It's just Trish and Oscar coming. And I'll be on the Arrows of tour. Eras of Trish tour this weekend in Sacramento, San Jose and Austin. Pretty much all the dates are sold out except for. Austin has a few. There might be a few. The second editor, New Jersey. But other than that, we're in. Pretty much booked. We're gonna be at World Pride in Washington, D.C. june 6, Friday, June 6, at 5:15pm and we only have 15 minutes. So be sure you get there at 5:15 to 5:30. You don't want to miss it. We have lots of hot guys and I guess. What are those called? Little harnesses. Bling harnesses.

[Oscar]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, there might be a little shorts happening.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bling Pink, we're going with. Pink has a little rainbow splash. Shout Out. Disco Daddy. Do you know Disco Daddy?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

He really is king of bling. He does a lot of. A lot of people. A lot of harnesses, a lot of chaps, and he's.

[Oscar]

Are you wearing the chaps or are the dancers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not me? Well, to find out. I don't know. Maybe we all are. You never know. It's going to be so much fun. As you can tell, we're already in our pride mode. I was doing a little Pride promotion earlier and just gay all day. And what else? I think that'[e-mail] just we're gonna film today. Are we getting the Wendy's today?

[Oscar]

Yeah, the Wendy's has the new Frosty is. And I think for a reaction, there's been so many dramatic videos from men that I feel like it'd be funny to react to them because people love when we react to drama.

[Trisha Paytas]

We react to men.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just in general.

[Oscar]

Austin and James. I feel like we do a little reaction to the. To their videos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, to the videos.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the full. For our full unfiltered thoughts on the mess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love that. Okay, that's a good one. So get the Frosties and frost these nuts.

[Oscar]

You could have said frost the tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, yeah, I need a frost tea. That's right. It's going to be a frost tea. Sasha. Got it. Damn, you're better at the puns than me. And that's it for me. Oh, shout out to Pop Mart for giving us these crybabies. Yes, everything. We'll take more popmart. In fact, we'll do a whole Pop Mart unboxing on Patreon. We love a pop shout out to Lilo and Stitch. Look at all these Elvis stitches. I don't remember him being Elvis this many times in the movies.

[Oscar]

I think maybe just the once or.

[Trisha Paytas]

Twice, but on the beach.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. At the end.

[Trisha Paytas]

But all the other ones have been popping up. Yeah, there's. We have a giant one upstairs in a Hawaiian shirt. I don't know. All the Elvis stitches are popping up just in time for our Elvis's first birthday. She had her birthday shoot yesterday with cake, and she's gonna be Elvis Stitch. So Lilo and Stitch, if there's any. Anyway, we get to that movie. I would love to watch the movie at the party at 10:00am you know, like a private screening.

[Oscar]

Kim Kardashian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Yes.

[Oscar]

Yes. She saw Wicked, like, at her house a month earlier or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

They probably paid her actually to do that. And I'm like, I Already have all the decorations. I bought the stitch, I bought the lilo. Well, anyways. And then this shout out to Blinged up for the bling Labu boo.

[Oscar]

That's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is my Chanel one. I love it so much. I'm really into the boo boos. I really.

[Oscar]

Me too. I'm treating myself to labubu today. It's a long workday for me today. And I keep telling myself, get through. And then there's a labubu at the end.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're like my daughter, a two and.

[Oscar]

A half year old.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, after work, we can paint the nails. She's like, okay. After work. Yes. I love that. As you should honestly get through it. I love that. Okay. Yeah, you do have a very. You're doing double duty today.

[Oscar]

Yeah. A long day. I think I started like around, and then I go until maybe like 7ish tonight. So it's a long day. But there are labubus at the end. So here we go.

[Trisha Paytas]

You deserve it. You deserve all the labuboos.

[Oscar]

And also, speaking of the gay music video, by the way, I kept seeing that you had a little mishap in your lyrics. Did you see this?

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't wanna get sued. I switched him around.

[Oscar]

That's what I said too. Cause Darian was asking me. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did not know it, to be honest. I saw the comments. I'm gonna blame. No, I'm not gonna blame. I did write the song, however, Jeremy threw that part in. And I trust Jeremy. Jeremy's been one of my strongest gays for like 12 years, probably the longest. And I was like, you know what? I don't know if he necessarily watches Drag Race. He. He works with a lot of drag queens. He goes on tour with them. Scarlett Envy. I know. He loves the culture. I'm not sure. I don't know. I'm not sure what happened. But honestly, it's on me too, because I watched Drag Race. It sounded like. Right. What did I say?

[Oscar]

For context, we have a line and it says, sashay, you stay, Shantay away. And I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, no, I think it's the other way.

[Oscar]

Oh, wait, Shantae. No, because it's Shantae, you stay. Or in sachet away is the right way. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you noticed it. Okay, why don't you tell me?

[Moses]

Because I thought the same thing. I thought you mixed it up or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where I was going. I was trying to. When I saw the comment, I was like, how do I spin this? It's like oh, okay.

[Oscar]

Crisis pr.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was bad. But, you know, we put our own spin on it. You know, just in case you speak French. Is that what it is? Isn't it French, Shantay?

[Oscar]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does shantay mean? Chasse. I thought chasse was just like a dance move. Like a chasse. Like a pirouette. It sounds French. Yeah, I guess. A pirouette passe.

[Oscar]

Traditionally used when gentlemen are greeting ladies in French.

[Trisha Paytas]

Enchante. Is that what they say?

[Oscar]

I guess so, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does it mean?

[Oscar]

RuPaul said that Shante means to weave a bewitching spell. And it may derive from the French enchante, which means enchant. So ripost is kind of going off on his own. So not sticking to the French definition, I guess. Okay, so I guess it is better that you did mix it up, because if Rue is making it his own, change it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sure it's trademarked or something. That's why even when we did it, I remember being a jam. Like, I think, I don't know if we can use this. He's like, it's fine. I was like, okay. I was like, no one will probably hear it, but it is blowing up. It's one of my biggest music videos that I've done this year, so people are loving it. I do give credit to, obviously, Jewel, Sparkles, and Corinne, because people were gagged. They were so gagged and as was I. And they're just so beautiful and fierce and all the queens were. It was a great time. That music video really was it. Yeah. Maybe Ru will know who I am next season. Snatch Game again. What if someone did Snatch Game again as me?

[Oscar]

Probably like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just like every year. Well, I did find some tea. I won't say which queen said what, but they actually do say no to people. Like, there was a queen that had. That had two, and they actually said no, two. I can. I'll say it, and then we can bleep. Yeah. I guess they do say no. So they let. They let me through the cracks. They let people be me, which is nice.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I would be like, if I was a producer, I'd be like, let's pick someone we know. You know? Or maybe there's a producer on the show that loves me, and they're like, you know what? Yes, absolutely. You can do Trisha.

[Oscar]

That kind of makes sense, because I'm assuming there are a lot of homosexuals working in the crew, so. And that is the demo, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they're like, trisha. Yes. So we can pass you through. I love that. I love what you call them. Homosexuals. Why is that a more politically correct term? It probably better. I do say the gays a lot, but I was like, maybe that's. I don't know. Can't. Than gays. I probably just say homosexuals. Huh?

[Moses]

It's not a race. It's like saying the vegetarians. You know, people that are.

[Trisha Paytas]

No one says the vegetarians. Look at those vegetarians over there.

[Moses]

They do. They say, you know, they're so mean, random.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, you guys let me know. Jennifer Coolidge has the gays. It just sounds cutesy. Let's use it, like, in a bad way. Like all those gays.

[Oscar]

Yeah, right. Context matters. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even in that way, I don't know.

[Moses]

Isn't that much. The gays are trying to kill me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's what I always thought. Like the Jennifer Coolidge shows, like, the gays are amazing. They're the best. They're the most interesting. The gays are trying to kill me. So I always just thought, anyways, okay, that'd be crazy to have like, evil gays trying to kill you actually in real life. Do you think about that? Like, what if you're on a boat full of, like, really actually evil gays?

[Oscar]

Seems more likely than you think.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. I think it's kind of like I want to go on a cruise, but then I'm like, what if I have a crew of them?

[Oscar]

I think the cruise gaze typically harmless, depending on the cruise. I think there's some dubious cruises for sure, but like the. The cruises Dylan Mulvaney goes on where she just like, singing show tunes for, like, a lot of elderly folks. I'm like, that seems pretty safe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very fun.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But then there's like, the gay sex cruises. I feel like maybe those are a little more dubious.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do know someone who accidentally went on there. Like a married couple of mine. They are monogamous, but they went on a. They thought it was just like a gay cruise, but it was a gay sex cruise, which is, like, completely different. They were like. And I was like, so what happened? Like, well, nothing. We just were out of place because everyone kept coming up to us. And then they were like, oh, okay. Like. Cause I said they were.

[Oscar]

The sex, the entertainment. Like, you know, like in a normal cruise, they have, like, performers, like acrobatics.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like, I don't think so. I think it's more of like you put the pineapples upside down sort of thing. Right. That's the.

[Oscar]

Never heard of that before.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Oscar]

But I'm also like the least gay cruiser. Yes. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Go on gay cruise TikTok. Cause there's a whole thing where they have. Yes. There's like little magnets and stickers and stuff you put outside the door to know like, how many you want when to come in. Like all this kind of stuff. So kind of signify, like pass through or, you know, whatever. So.

[Oscar]

Wow. Yeah, I'm gag that you know more than me, but I'm fierce. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm on gay cruise TikTok.

[Oscar]

You are a woman of culture, though, so I do know that you like to, you know, dive deep and thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Certain cultures. Gay culture, for sure. I would love to be in more cultures. Whoever will have me. Gay culture has me. And that's what I love about them. They will have me question about port just in general is why do they do portraits and not pictures?

[Oscar]

I was wondering that too, because obviously there's a lot of high profile court cases happening at the same time this week. And there's a lot of the sketches coming out. And I don't know, because the sketches of Kim look a little crazy, to put it lightly. They look nuts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why do they also. Yeah, they do them in cartoon versions. So they don't do realistic things.

[Moses]

I think they don't. A lot electronics in the room.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's gonna record or something.

[Moses]

So even like, you know, Stephanie. Is that the one we talked about, Sue?

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Moses]

Like people, they don't have their anything inside. So you have to either take notes or write.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, get one of those old cameras from like the 1800s. You don't mean.

[Oscar]

That's better than that. I know it's flat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, just go pretty distracting. They'll think they're trying to kill them or something.

[Oscar]

Like, Kim is crying over her testimony.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, okay, that makes sense. The sketches are not fierce, that's for sure. And I'm always just like, why? Why do they do that? Makes sense. Okay, that makes sense. The electronic devices make sense. That's a fun job. Well, I don't know. It's a fun job. I wonder how long it takes for them to sketch.

[Oscar]

I feel like they must do it pretty quick because they released those on like Getty images with a quickness.

[Trisha Paytas]

Images. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, Gettys everywhere.

[Oscar]

Chems are on Getty images.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I saw the. The diddy Cassie one too. And I'm like, when do they know the moment to do it too, because it's like Diddy's looking this way and Cassie's crying. And I was just like, oh, that one was crazy.

[Oscar]

Because then they. They sketched Diddy doing a hand heart or something. And I'm like, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he actually.

[Oscar]

I guess maybe they picked like, the most, like, visual moments.

[Trisha Paytas]

And how do they keep it in their head? He could have done the hand.

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Moses]

I guess they fill it in, you know, like, they get the face at a certain moment, then later on they put the hands and the rest of the. You know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But did he actually do a hand heart?

[Moses]

So many of them are so bad for that reason, you know, because it looks like somebody that's been moving while they're sketching.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. What a. What an interesting job. Okay, well, that's a lot to take in on a.

[Moses]

But we did get a lot of comments about Stephanie Sue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, people I know, Stephanie sue has an army. They were out together. I thought we were pretty nice.

[Oscar]

I thought we liked Stephanie Sue.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought so too. I don't think we reiterated enough. I was just like, I get it. I think it's cute. Yeah.

[Oscar]

You say what? She deserves to be there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So Stephanie sue suenators came out to get us, but also we were.

[Moses]

We were so early. Like, it just started. And then after we found out about all the stuff that came out of court and how heavy it is, then we kind of appreciated more the lightness.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of things we're saying. She was just trying to keep it light hearted. Cause it's like, inside it's so heavy. So when you come out, you just want to feel a little ease, you know, a little light heartedness. So she was trying to keep it fun, cutesy, light. I guess that's the. That was the argument.

[Oscar]

That's a weird argument to make. Sorry, y' all. But like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I got it. It. You don't think.

[Oscar]

I think. Well, I think she was kind of just talking in the tone that she's used to, but probably is, like, just has to adapt to the series. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought maybe they're talking about her, like, doing the little dance with the PB sandwich, but yeah, maybe the koala is a little.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think she just, like, she was just speaking in the tone that she's used to for her audience. But I think, like, something like this big that's on a huge, like, international scale just reaches like an audience that isn't used to that tone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So you just kind of have to adjust. That's Kind of how I saw it, but I don't think she is, like, has bad intentions or anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I thought. In fact, I visualized it when she said that. I was like, I see that. You know, she articulated it well.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think just the comparison to, like, a cute little critter, I guess, is. Although koalas do carry chlamydia, so I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's right. They're dubious. The sketches didn't show him looking like a koala. The sketches showed him looking like Diddy.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it was. It was weird. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That koala hair.

[Moses]

He might have paid him off. You know, people want to get good sketches.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's in New York, you said?

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's in New York.

[Trisha Paytas]

How long is it going on for?

[Oscar]

I don't know. A while. I mean, I think it just started because jury selection was last week, and I think it just started this week. And Cassie has been doing her testimony, so it might go for a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

Usually court cases do pregnant, too, which is.

[Oscar]

I know. She's very, very strong to be doing all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't like to read stuff that's bad because it, like, literally sends me into spiral. But I was reading last night before bed. Oh, my gosh. Actually crazy. I mean, it's like. I know we don't have, like, the heaviest stuff on here, but that story is crazy. Mm. I don't like. I know it's not even, like, the half of it, right? This is only, like, day two of the iceberg. Yeah. Because I was like, wait, why is the state. And then I was like, oh, my God. And then, like, traffic, trafficking allegations. I was like, this is wild.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is scary. It sounds like someone who should be in jail.

[Oscar]

Well, thankfully.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he there?

[Oscar]

Yeah, he's in jail.

[Trisha Paytas]

So how did she do we know how she left.

[Oscar]

I don't. She must have talked about it, but I don't know at the top of.

[Trisha Paytas]

My head, just because, like, the escort was saying, like, you know, why didn't you call the cops? Like, the escort that, like, saw all the abuse happen, and he's like, I was so scared for my life. And obviously there's, like, Diddy allegations about him. Like, Wendy Williams has been the number one. Like, Diddy. What's it called? Prosecutor, I guess she's. She's always said that he sent, like, girl groups after her. Like, she's always, like, said it. So I always just wonder, I guess, for people in those situations, like, how you get out.

[Oscar]

I think. Okay. It says in 2019, she was able to leave his record label, Bad Boy Records. So that's. And that was like the most significant step in getting independence from him because she wasn't a crazy, like, 10 album record deal. And so he like, held that over her head to use as leverage to, like, keep her bound. And then she would, like, record albums and he wouldn't release them. So, yeah, it was just like a nightmare situation for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does she have someone, like, watching over her now?

[Oscar]

Well, she has, I think a partner now, but yeah, just to be, like, safe. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, he's in jail.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can't get out.

[Oscar]

I. No, I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

People get out. Do you remember that movie with Zac Efron this year? He was playing the killer. I don't know which one. It's one of them. Ted Bundy or Dahmer. Well, he did one and he kept getting out of. He literally got out of prison twice.

[Moses]

Well, that was 10 Bundy. I mean, I know he got out of prison.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are not a true crime podcast. Everyone's like, that's not it. That doesn't sound right. Well, anyways, this is crazy.

[Moses]

That's why there's so many people that will talk about this for hours. They sit in the courtroom, they'll.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stephanie Sue. Is she doing live streams? I see the live streams when they come out of court and they do like a live stream telling what just happened.

[Oscar]

I don't. I have saw her video on Rotten.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mango the other day that she posted about this.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's another girl who's kind of young and cute and she, she has a. She has the Stephanie sue way of talking about it, which I, again, I kind of like, I guess, where people like to dumb it down a little bit or like, keep it, you know, you interested in it. There's one girl, I'll say, hope you all having a good day. Diddy's not having a good day. Like, she's. And she's like, inside the courtroom. It's, like, so interesting. And she's another young one too, so. Thank you so much. The sponsor of today's episode, Adam and Eve, baby. Love Adam and Eve and working with them personally for over a decade, they are tried and true toys to spice up your love life. If you're looking for intimacy and taking it to the next level, look no further. Then Adam and Eve, surprise your significant other with a little goodie bag, maybe a game, some lingerie, anything you think that's going to romanticize your life. Adam and Eve has you covered and they have you covered in discreet packaging, delivered straight to your door in very discreet packaging. So no nosy neighbors or roommates. Need to know what you're doing in your naughty time. Naughty time is very spicy, let me tell you. Working with Adam, me for over a decade has opened up my love life in a whole new way. Tried all new things. Sometimes it's just a fun indicator, too. I never know how to, like, signify that I'm, like, in the mood. So sometimes if I just have, like, a little toy up there. Very fun. Fun for solo adventures, couples adventures, parties, even getting as a gay gift. Sometimes giving a novelty gift can really be a gift that they actually use. So check out Adam and Eve.com today. And for my listeners and my listeners only, you get 50% off any single item if you use the code just Trish, plus free shipping. That's J u s t t r I s h at checkout. So be sure to use that code just Trish. That's J u s t T r I s h at [e-mail] for 50% off any item plus free shipping in the US and Canada. Thank you, Adam and Eve, for sponsoring today's episode. ET you all had some scuffle outside the courthouse. That's great. Did you do the edit?

[Oscar]

No, I didn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you guys post it or did someone else post it? How does that happen? That is, I always wonder that because she had the E Team Bling microphone. I said shut the upper.

[Oscar]

I called you.

[Trisha Paytas]

When a grown man speaks, you shut the in the butt is the devil. And then someone is filming it. So I'm like, does ET like, post about that or. They don't want anything.

[Oscar]

I know. No one even talked about it. I only saw it when. Yeah, it was all over Twitter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they can't be their own news story.

[Oscar]

I don't think we want to post about our reporter getting verbally assaulted by someone at a in front of the Diddy courthouse.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it was that part, obviously, Apple. But she, like, just held her own, so I'd be kind of proud.

[Oscar]

I'd say she is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Love that Rachel Smith. Shout out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ran. As soon as someone called me anything outside the courthouse, I've been like, I'm running.

[Oscar]

No, I feel for her. I feel for her because she's having a lot sometimes. I was thinking about that today after I saw the videos. Like, damn, I think and I have a long day. But she had that and then she had what was at night. It was, oh, then the weekend premiere at night. So she was going like 5am to like 10pm What a change.

[Trisha Paytas]

What a. What a shift.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she's on it. She's on it. Shout out Rachel Smith. She's the one that Rihanna likes. Every time Rihanna sees her, she comes up and said, that's my girl. And she's so cute. Yeah, she's very cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've only known Denny directo now I know a new diva.

[Oscar]

Yes, she's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would you say she does the same assignments as Denny in New York?

[Oscar]

She does everything in New York. She's the only New York ET reporter, so she does pretty much everything. Poor thing is like boots on the ground all day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why don't they get a second person out there so she doesn't have to or. She loves to do it.

[Oscar]

I think she loves to do it. Also have a small, like, New York office. So, like the crew and producers out there, the office even. It's all really small.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's mostly New York is small. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would. I would move out there if I could be a correspondent. Would you?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you don't want to be a correspondent.

[Oscar]

I'm not a New Yorker.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I could be.

[Oscar]

Yeah, You've. You've kind of adapted to the New York lifestyle pretty quickly. But I don't know if I could.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you could.

[Oscar]

I don't know. Also then. But then you would have the situations like that girl getting yelled at, and then you would.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. The influences were getting punched in the face. You remember that era? Yeah, that's true. I would quit. Oh, my God. Yeah, that happened to me. That's what I was saying. She's kind of. Kind of fierce. I didn't know why more people weren't talking about. Because I thought that's kind of everything that she, like, was able to, like, stand there and be like, you know what? No.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, granted, that guy probably was a little off. I mean, I saw the guy in the background. He probably was.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I don't think he was, like, sane for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But still scary sometimes. The ones that are a little off sometimes, I don't know, whatever, they're fine.

[Oscar]

You were scary back in the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now I was speaking for a street. Well, I wasn't on a street. I wasn't in the apartments. But catch me in my apartment and I was. You definitely was scary. That's for sure. Yeah. But I got help. I think that's the story. Right? Here's the story. You can be off in life, but you know, seek help.

[Oscar]

Mm.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's fine. And then you're still, you know, off on the inside, but you can manage it and control better not scream.

[Oscar]

Yes. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Guys love to say that, don't they? I just love to scream that word out.

[Oscar]

Mm.

[Trisha Paytas]

But after watching you, I was like, I could go to New York, I think, and be a little like bookshop attendant. I love books.

[Oscar]

I. You would end up in a situation like, like back or something like. Oh, I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Compared to back. I was thinking more of a. Who's like a not so smart one on the show. Who's like a one that didn't. Wasn't so bright.

[Oscar]

Maybe that you got. You guys would be the couple. That one couple from season three.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the vloggers in the. In the cage together. That would definitely be us. How do they get out? Cuz they were in the season again and I was. How they get out of that?

[Oscar]

I forget. That was season three. They ended up getting out somehow. Then they wrote a book about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's right.

[Oscar]

I forget what book.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who would you be?

[Oscar]

I'd be Jenna Ortega.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, a little 15 year old school girl neighbor. She was pretty smart. She was pretty fierce.

[Oscar]

I know. Then for some reason I keep getting recommended on Reddit. Like you post. And then someone said she should have been the one to like be the downfall for Joe, which would have been so fierce if she came back and like, was his demise somehow he sent her off.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you do with her?

[Oscar]

I forgot to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

Because he killed her sister or whatever. Right? Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then I thought he like, gave her money and. Oh yeah, somewhere we do have a little bit of you Hot Topic news I'm so excited about because I know we're done talking about you, but.

[Oscar]

He's not talking about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see it?

[Oscar]

Are we thinking the same thing about.

[Trisha Paytas]

The wax in the butthole?

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy. I was giggling to myself last night. I wouldn't tell Moses, but I'm like. But like Moses. I was like, I'm saving it for Hot Topics. I'm not gonna tell you what I'm giggling at. It was. I was like reading at like 10 o' clock at night and I was like, is this real? Like, what? Where's he saying all this stuff?

[Moses]

Wait, what is the thing?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my gosh. To film the water scenes at the end, he had to cover every orifice, every hole, including his butthole in wax because there was E. Coli in the pond. But it was a safe amount of E. Coli in the pond. And so everyone had to cover their orifices.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

They couldn't film it in a little pool and, like. Like they did in the White Lotus.

[Oscar]

Honestly, Tea, it was. I was thinking, if, you know it has E. Coli, then why film in it? Because he said the body doubles for Bronte and Joe did most of the work. But the stuff that they had to film, he. First of all, he had to put, like, the wax to cover all his orifices. And then to be extra safe, he wore, like, an extra, extra small Speedo under the shorts to make sure it was, like, as tightly sealed as possible. I wish he was just in the Speedo.

[Moses]

I would love to have some say that it was really cold. Just so you know, he fought so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hard to be naked, so. Yeah. Why couldn't we have seen him in the Speedo? Or just the wax really is all we needed to see. How could it get anywhere else? You put it on the tip in the butthole. That's it. There's no other holes that can get in down there.

[Oscar]

Down there? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the whole point of a Speedo. So just cover.

[Oscar]

I am interested to know, like, how do you remove the wax after you cover your hole?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there hot wax being poured in or is it like a hard.

[Oscar]

It must not be the hot wax.

[Moses]

It's liquid. It was like, you know, it's not too hot, but if you remove it. He basically got whacked.

[Oscar]

That's what I was thinking. Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you get waxed, they put the little wax on the hot. On the stick. So they think they stuck it onto his butt, maybe.

[Oscar]

I feel like. Did he say if he did it himself? Let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to know who the waxer was that put him on.

[Moses]

My guess is he probably shaved before and then put. So you wouldn't have to like people. Like when people have surgeries, actually.

[Oscar]

Okay. He just. To confirm. He did put it on his own rectum. Pen cleared up.

[Trisha Paytas]

He said that. Where did he say this? Where is he making his name?

[Oscar]

It was on his pod crushed episode. He did an episode with the director of the last episode where they were talking about the scene work.

[Trisha Paytas]

He put it on himself.

[Oscar]

Yes, yes, yes. He did say he put it on.

[Trisha Paytas]

His own rectum, Gibbs, for this is wild. He put it on himself and there was no coordinator to be like, here's the right way to do it, proper way to do it. Because if you do it wrong, it could probably hurt, too.

[Oscar]

Someone did explain to him. He said someone came up to him and Told him, I'm gonna ask you this once and never again. I need you to put this in your rectum. And I said, tony, that's not a question. So someone did come up and explain.

[Trisha Paytas]

To him, that's not a question. What does that mean?

[Oscar]

I think he meant, of course I will do this myself and not have anyone else put this wax in my rectum.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. I'd rather have someone put it up there. Like a suppository. You don't give it to yourself. Someone's gotta do it. You want to give yourself a colonoscopy?

[Oscar]

Well, this. You're not going inside just covering the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hole, but you have to. Okay, but you can't just have a flat piece of wax over the hole. It has to go inside a little bit to cover it. Otherwise it would move around. It would shift. Like, how is it stuck there?

[Oscar]

I guess you spread the cheeks and then just kind of go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, a little bit in there.

[Oscar]

But when, like, gays doing an enema, when bottom is enema, they're doing it themselves. They're not having the top come do the enema for them.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's rude. I'd be like, do something back there. Like, help me out. That's actually so crazy. They just put it in themselves. What's an enema again? A pill?

[Oscar]

No, it's the, like, the douche you like. It's like the water. You push it in you and then. Yeah. It cleans you out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Enema. I didn't know that.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because don't they give you the hospital sometimes in enema?

[Oscar]

They can also do that. Yeah. Because it's like, if you have to clear it up. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you do it for hemorrhoids?

[Oscar]

No. I think it could probably make hemorrhoids worse.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need help.

[Oscar]

I know. You're in your hemorrhoid era. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really, truly want to know what to do for internal ones, because I don't know.

[Oscar]

That's a good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I know on the outside you can do Preparation H and stuff, but how do you go inside? That's what I want to know about this. Because he put the wax inside. So I was like, do you put. Can you put Preparation H inside and have it sit down?

[Oscar]

That's a good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate hemorrhoids. And I get so many when I'm pregnant, and it's so awful. I throw away so many underwear, so many of my skims. That's why I bought so many skims that one time, because I always wear nude and you know, that hemorrhoid is just not it. It's awful and it's terrible. Pen, I hope he never stops talking about you. He just is so wild. I saw a thing. I asked you this because it's kind of couple related. There was a couple on TikTok, this woman and this guy. They've been married for, like, I don't know, 10 years. The husband was, like, telling her, like, you know, he was gone for a couple days with his family, and he's like, feel like I finally bonded with my family. And she, oh, what, was it over? And he was like, you know, I was talking about our problems, like, our problems in our marriage. And he's like, you know, it was crazy because they were, like, you know, taking my side and comforting me, and they never do that. And it was really nice. So anyways, and they have dinner with the parents, the family or whatever, and everyone's getting along, and they are very nice to him. And on the way home, she said something like, oh, your mom being condescending to me. Did you catch that? And he says, you know, I really hate the way you always complained in our marriage about everything. So then she went to TikTok and she was like, to me, it's not complaining when you come home from a dinner and talk about what just happened. She goes, that's like a debrief. Like, oh, my God, can you believe this? She goes, I wasn't complaining. I wasn't whining. I was like, oh, your mom being condescending to me about my cooking or whatever. And she was, like, shook. She's like, in 10 years of marriage, has never been like this. That he was, like, on their side and being like, I hate that you always turn everything into a negative. But she was thinking, oh, well, we all talk about what just happened at dinner, and I feel like that's us, right? Like, if we. No matter who, see.

[Moses]

But he was telling her that he doesn't like her saying that after he went to his family and talked behind her back about the problem.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just, like, stuff that they've been, like, dealing with, like, going through nothing, like, serious, which is like. Like, issues he had with her in the marriage.

[Moses]

And if he's complaining, why can't she? Like, is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think it was complaining?

[Moses]

No, I'm just saying, like, what? He seems very weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it was weird. I wish I knew more of the details of it. It was weird. I got a lot of likes. It was an odd thing, I guess. He was, like, talking about like, possibly divorcing and like, all stuff like that. And they were, like, supportive of him to do that. So then when they had the dinner, like a week later, if I was.

[Moses]

Her, I wouldn't go to that dinner to begin with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she thought everything was, like, fine. It wasn't like a big deal. She's like, he's like, I was just talking with the family and then when they came back and usually they talk about what just happened. He's usually, like, on board to talk about it, whatever. And he was just like, I don't like that. You always turn everything to a negative. Ladies. You'll end up shopping for your guy's deodorant. Right. So try Degree's Original Cool Rush. You see, last year, Degree changed the formula and men were mad. One guy even started a petition. So Dagrus admitted they messed up and brought the original Cool Rush scent back. It's clean, crisp, and actually smells like someone you want to cuddle. And it's in Walmart, Target and other stores now for under $4. So toss one in your cart and find out why it's the best selling men's antiperspirant for the last decade. Degree Cool Rush is back and it smells like Victory.

[Moses]

Something is very suspicious there. I think he's getting his Genghis and his family to be on his side through the breakup or something, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Something was weird. Let us know in the comments below. I feel like it's very normal to leave a situation and talk about it.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because I mean, I rather talk to you about what happened than, like, first of all, it's a way to. To vent. Right. It's a way to let it out there without having to hurt somebody's feelings or confrontation with the people. So I'd rather tell you when something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

Annoyed me. I'd rather tell you that than, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I also feel when we, like, debrief, it's never anything, like, serious because it could be anything. A photo shoot, hanging with friends, whatever. And it's like shooting a podcast. And we always talk about stuff, but I don't. It's not. It's not like, is it gossiping or is it just, like, talking about what just happened?

[Moses]

I think we're just aligned. So it's fun, too. It's fun to be like, oh, we both thought the same way about what happened, or we both feel the same way about a situation.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think this might be a hot take. I think it's okay to, like. I guess gossip is the word. Like, Gossip with your spouse. I think it's okay to be right. I. I don't know. I don't think it's.

[Moses]

But also, we're. Because we're not negative. Because when we talk about a situation or about people, we always elevate each other. So, like, let's say if you had a bad experience, and I'll come in and like. Well, they probably didn't mean it that way. They probably just thought something, you know, like, we always try to. That's true, I guess, push each other away from the negativity into something more positive. And so I feel like sometimes that.

[Trisha Paytas]

We both can be like, that's crazy.

[Moses]

We both had a bad experience and it was great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not even bad, though. That's what I'm saying. It's like, okay, you know when you hang out with, like, a group, like, we don't ever hang out with groups anymore. But it's like, let's say we were hanging out with, like, Shane and Ryland or something like that, and we'll, like, talk about something. Like, oh, my gosh, like, do you remember this? Or you remember saying this? Or, that's crazy. They said this. Is that, like, that's just, like, gossip. That's just, like, debriefing. That's not really gossip. Because I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe they said this. You know what I mean? And it doesn't go anywhere else besides your. I don't know. I just think if you're married, so it's a.

[Moses]

It's a different space than that's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

So with this situation with this girl, I feel like that's your safe space where you can. You can be a venter, a gossiper. Because I don't like to gossip. Like, even when we're done with this. Like, I'm not, like, talking to Oscar, like, people, you know, I mean, because I don't like that. But I feel like if you can talk, I say in quotes, like, with one person to, like, you said, like, vent or just get out. Frustration. Family members, too. If I'm, like, frustrated with a family member, I don't love talking to the family member because it's not that serious. Like, something that's, like, not serious. I'm just like, I just want to vent. So I think when that is no longer your safe space, if one day you turn to me and you're like, gosh, Trisha, you complain a lot. I'd be like, well, you're my person. I can complain to Right.

[Moses]

And he already broke her, like, their little circle of trust by going to his family and telling them all their problems. Because you know that once you do that, there's no going back. Because now the family. Let's say they have a problem, and then they resolve it. But if, while they have the problem, he goes to his family and always tells them the problems, the family is stuck there, then they never get the resolution of it. So the family only will see her in those negative.

[Trisha Paytas]

That part for sure. I don't think you should ever feel.

[Moses]

Like I'm saying, like, he already broke that circle. Then he broke it the second time when she came to talk to him, and he was like, oh, no, you're just being negative. I don't want to do this. So basically, he's. He's breaking all of their, you know, personal, private.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Spaces.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. If I.

[Moses]

So something. Something bad is really happening there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I think number one rule always to never complain about your. That was my mistake because I used to use, like, my family as, like, my venting. If I was, like, having issues with anybody I've dated. But you always look at them, and me too. If, like, my sister any. Or my mom told me something bad about the person they were dating, that's all I could see. I'm like, that. Remember that one time five years ago? So I think, like, the number one rules, like, never say, obviously, if it's, like, abuse or something serious, like, tell people. But I think, like, little problems and, like, ugh, Moses won't let me keep the Rolls Royce or something. You know, it's like, okay, I don't need to tell everybody that, like, what's your money? You work hard for it. Blah, blah. Okay, well, we have a family, and I get it. You know what I mean? Then I'm like, okay, yeah.

[Moses]

So, yeah. Because they don't see it in the same way that you'll see it. They want resolve it the way you resolve it and move on. They'll be stuck there forever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We move on quickly from any annoyance, which is very little far between. So. All right. Let us know if you gossip with your spouse, because I always tell people. I'm like, if you tell me, don't tell anyone, I'm gonna tell Moses. But that's it. You know what I mean? I'm pretty good at keeping secrets, but I just.

[Moses]

And it stops there. And like I said, usually I give you a positive spin on it of, like, you know, this is probably what happened. It didn't mean that because usually things Are less serious than what you think could be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So and we try to, we try to push each other towards keeping friendships, keeping, you know, staying in and not, not like, you know, we don't have toxicity so we don't like oh yeah, you should never talk to that person again.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get annoyed.

[Moses]

Yeah, we do the opposite. We try to elevate the situation to a positive place. And yeah, that's true. We always, you know, but sometimes we.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do a little gossip sesh together.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because I mean it's more like there's bonding in that. Sometimes it's funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's always like light hearted something.

[Moses]

You know, things are funny and sometimes we get along so we view the world in a certain way that we view it and it's different from the way other people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So it's nice to have another person next to you. That view is the same that the way that you do like and I don't know, I mean to me it's like comforting, it's bonding.

[Trisha Paytas]

But sometimes both ways I feel like sometimes when I'm like, oh, it's not that big of a deal. Then you're like, well I'm telling you because I'll be like, oh no, it's not that big. Well, I'm just telling you my frustrations and then you get like annoyed and.

[Moses]

Then I do mean. So that's what I'm saying. Like sometimes it's better like to just vent it and be done with it instead of creating a bigger thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I feel like sometimes you've been to me and I'm like, oh, it's like, you know, sometimes you just want to vent and not be told like a solution.

[Moses]

Yeah, that for me that used to be my biggest problem is when people would come and vent to me. I used to try and solve the problem. I'd be like, oh, so maybe do this and maybe that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And like over the years I learned that sometimes you just need to listen. People don't need right now 10 ways to solve their issues and lecture to them and all that. So sometimes like at that moment just let them be, let them talk, let them vent, just listen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And then if they ask for help, help them. I used to be like, you know, if somebody comes and cry on my shoulder, I immediately like, okay, do this, we're going to do that. In that moment they just want to cry on your shoulder. That's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So that I learned that over the years.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I learned that with you too. I think you're that person Sometimes you just want to be the one to cry on the shoulder and don't need a solution to it. I've learned that with you.

[Moses]

I'm like, oh, I wouldn't say cry on the shoulder because I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, but you like to vent a little bit, and you don't need a solution from me. You just want to vent, right?

[Moses]

Like, something happened. It was upsetting, and I was just like, that happened. It upsets me sometimes. I'll be like, that's where it ends.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, what do you mean to react so crazy? He's like, I'm just telling you. I'm just saying how.

[Moses]

No, no, that's a different story. Because you assume. You assume that I reacted. That's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I know your tone sometimes.

[Moses]

It just. You're extremely nice. And I'm just myself. Like, I'm not. You know, I'm not. I don't go to places where I'm not myself. Like, so I'm.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are scared of Moses sometimes because I'm so nice. So the people around me. And I didn't say, I'm too nice. Like you said, I'm a little bit of a pushover. So when Moses would be like, don't do that. Don't move that. Do that. I'm like, oh, my God. You got to be, like, nicer about it.

[Moses]

I'm very direct, so it's very clear. And a lot of people in the comments said that, like, they rather be clear than be like. Because if you're anxious about something, you just pass along to them, like, it's okay. You can do. You can. You don't have to do it. You can do it if you want. Whatever you want. And then they left, like, not knowing what you really want and what to do. And the only places I'm like, that is our house, you know, like, it's our house. It's our space when people are here. I'm like, okay, put that there. Don't do this. Don't. No, you're definitely not going into that room. You're not doing this. You know, like, there's. There's different boundaries you put when it's your personal space, but not in other places or like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, you know, when I first met, you were very different story.

[Moses]

And the fact is, well, candles I'll blow now, too. But the fact is, you bring up what happened back then, because since then, it didn't really happen again, you know, in that way, because I told you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, you can't be that mean to people.

[Moses]

Something I think I told you with you, people think that you're more. Because the way you are online, people assume that that's the way they can be towards you in real life.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you were blunt. I've never been blunt online. I've been, like, aggressive and angry. But you were, like, blunt. And I was like, you can't just be blunt to people like that in life.

[Moses]

But that's what I'm saying. Like, I thought with you, I couldn't be. I'm not like that with everyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then I'm like, you don't assume anymore.

[Moses]

Well, like I said, it doesn't happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should switch gears to another topic since Oscar doesn't know. This one too, is our Righteous Gemstones update.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do people care in the comments?

[Moses]

They do, because they're all like, you gotta watch it. You gotta get through the first season and get to a place where it gets better.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think it's gotten a little better. I mean, we're still not done with the first season, but.

[Moses]

Well, the last episode we saw was kind of a throwback to when they were kids, I think we saw. And the wife was there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

So the story was like, that should have been the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's what I think, too. I think the three adult children even. I know, like, the guy created the show. Okay, I get it. I think it was better when it was the younger children. I liked that better with the wife.

[Moses]

Because I think you like more that Tammy Faye, like that story of the couple and the church and all that famous on tv. But again, we haven't seen the show, so maybe there's more. Maybe they keep going back to those moments.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think there was one penis in this one. Right.

[Moses]

I don't think there was because there was a lot of kids, like, they were younger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I think that was good. Walton Goggins was great. I really do want to start watching that other one on Amazon, that Free, whatever it's called. Do you remember that superhero one that. He's a skeleton.

[Moses]

Is it Freelander or Free?

[Trisha Paytas]

Doesn't sound right. Maybe, but.

[Moses]

But isn't that like more of a. Like a zombie type?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'll watch it. I like him.

[Moses]

I feel like this show is perfect for him. That's a perfect character for him.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good. Yeah. Well, he was raised. I did a deep dive. He was raised by his mom and his grandma, and they were. He was in Atlanta in the south, so he's raised by, like, as he says, three crazy, charmingly Southern women. So. Makes sense. He is so good. He does kind of remind me of you. Everyone reminds me of you, though. Every time I watch something, I'm like, that's Moses.

[Moses]

That's good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the teeth and.

[Moses]

I'll take it.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's very handsome.

[Moses]

I'll take it any day.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I'm back on it. And John goodman is like, CGI'd or something to look young in this one. I'm like, how do they make him look so young?

[Moses]

Maybe he has a face mask.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think it's, like, pulled back or something.

[Moses]

Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you lose all his weight? He's so skinny now.

[Moses]

What do you mean? Everyone loses the same way.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think it was epic?

[Moses]

Of course. What else is there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Think. But it's crazy.

[Moses]

Nobody lost weight until that showed up. And now we know that's how everyone loses weight. And hair.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Pretty good set of hair. I like it. I'm back on the righteous gemstones kick. I think, after that episode.

[Moses]

Yeah, it was a good episode. So it makes it easier to watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gotta stay in the 80s, I guess.

[Moses]

It's good. I mean, I like the scenery. I like the music. I like the. I guess I like the West. The Midwest.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's the South.

[Moses]

The South.

[Trisha Paytas]

Midwest is where I'm from. The Southern are like the Southern.

[Moses]

I think I like that more. You know, it has more character.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so interesting. I think I've never been drawn to Southern stuff. Like New York, too, because I. New York was so foreign to me. And I never liked the Southern because it felt too close to home. Like, I'm. I'm Midwest. So Midwest is like, where I'm from. My part is like, kind of like trailer homes and stuff. So the south always felt like another step in that direction of just like. This is obviously a stereotype. Like, you see the movie Deliverance with Burt Reynolds, you would remember where he's like, squeal like a piggy. And it's a whole, like, various crazy scene. It was in the 70s, so it was shocking. It was like John Boyd. They go out to the forest. Someone gets like, R worded in the forest. Male on male. It was. It was a crazy movie. They had the banjo. Anyways, that's what I always pictured, like, the south to be. So I think I always had a little aversion to it. But. But all those other people I've met have been very lovely. So where did.

[Moses]

What's it called? House on the Prairie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where Was that the Simi Valley?

[Moses]

No, but it's supposed to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, where do you think? I don't know. Was that Southern?

[Moses]

That might be like, I wonder where that's supposed to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably.

[Moses]

I remember growing up as a kid saying that. And it was like. Seems magical to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just like a different world. Because what we were watching the other day, and I was like, maybe it was that. Maybe it was righteous gemstones. Because I was like, I wonder if you experienced this growing up, like the super Christian people.

[Moses]

No, definitely not.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, never. No one ever preached Jesus.

[Moses]

No, we did. We really didn't know anything about Christianity. Like, I felt so ignorant when I moved here.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Moses]

That's why I studied a lot about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I felt the opposite before I started my spiritual journey. I felt like I only knew Christianity. I was like, wait, I knew Christianity and New Jewish. I knew like for some reason.

[Moses]

So same thing. That's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I didn't know about, like Hinduism or Islam. But you did have Elf.

[Moses]

We did have Elf growing up on tv.

[Trisha Paytas]

The cartoon Alpha.

[Moses]

I love that joke. And I was young, so it was kind of like, you know, he's always real.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's a little alien.

[Moses]

It was funny. There was so many shows. I mean, all. All the entertainment was from here. So it was like a natural progression to move here.

[Trisha Paytas]

At some point you're like, if Elf is in there, I gotta go Little House on the Prairie. And Elf. Well, they shot it in Simi Valley. We could always go up. They have like Little House in the Prairie days. It's like 10 minutes somewhere else we can go. They always have like a reunion. They had a 50 years one, I think last summer.

[Moses]

Well, probably now with all the flower blooming, it will be the same when they run down the hill.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should go relive it. If that was your little childhood fantasy of America, we could go put our little bonnets on. You could have suspenders. I don't. I never saw it. But like, what do they say? Like, night, Night, John Boy. Was there a John Boy or something?

[Moses]

I'm not sure. There was a Jimbo, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jimbo, That's a drag queen.

[Oscar]

You talk to your partner about other people?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Be honest.

[Oscar]

I'm sure I do. I can't really think of a specific example, but I'm sure I have really no one else to talk about. So, like, if he's just around and I have, you know, thoughts about someone, he's going to hear it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's like. If you go to like an event or Something. And it's not even talking. It's like, oh, God. Can you believe that happened? Yeah.

[Oscar]

Just a little gossip session.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. I think it's, like, not bad. I think if it's like. Because it's, like, in us to do it. And I think it's like, if there's one person to do it with, it's your significant other.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Or even, like, if it's. If you're single and you're just talking to your best friend and you're gossiping, that's what, like, you do to the person you're closest with. It brings people together.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then that's where it gets tricky because then you have them talking to multiple best friends, and then you just start spreading rumors and gossip around. I feel like a partner is safe. They can trust them. They're not gonna go outside the circle.

[Oscar]

I think your history with friendships, you have a skew perception. But I think, like, in normal best friendships, like, that's like your number one, your confidant. That's your homegirl. Like, you can count your homegirl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't believe they exist.

[Oscar]

I definitely did. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That really kept your secrets.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You behind your back, I'm pretty sure.

[Oscar]

Yeah. A normal world. I think it's like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was here on Tick Tock. Like, I told my best friend, and then they told this.

[Oscar]

And I'm sure a lot of people have bad experiences with their besties, but I think for the most part, you know, that's like. It's like, think about every show you watch growing up. Like, yes, Lizzie McGuire and Miranda had, you know, hiccups here and there, but they were still like, that. They're best friends.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's no hiccups between us. Like, if he told someone my. I'd be like, you know what I mean? There's no hiccups in a relationship.

[Moses]

You said that you hear that on Tick Tock, that there's people, that that's where they are. But there's a. The majority, probably 80% of people are not online airing their issues. You know, I mean, there's. The majority of people are just living in a normal life with a few friends, and nobody's like, it doesn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is.

[Moses]

You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't end up on social media. It doesn't end up in all those.

[Trisha Paytas]

The most bizarre thing to me always. I always say this when I do meet and greets. They're like, they're not on social media. They don't post on social media. They just watch. Like, there's people who just scroll through. TikTok has no desire to post themselves.

[Moses]

It's like, think about it. It's like a chef in a restaurant saying, all these people come here, they don't cook.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's very different. It's so different.

[Moses]

This is like your profession.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, if I'm like, what if I go and if I'm watching cooking shows and I love to see chefs and I love that. Yes. Then it would be weird. Like, why don't you do it? Like, you love it so much. So it's like, if you're scrolling through Tick Tock and you love it, why aren't you, like, compelled to also be.

[Oscar]

Like, that's like saying, everyone who sees a movie, why aren't you a movie star if you're watching?

[Moses]

What you said exactly is my point. Consuming media is like. Consuming food is like consuming products, like consuming anything. Consumption doesn't mean that you become the provider of it or.

[Trisha Paytas]

I disagree. Everyone wants to be in the next White Lotus. Every actor. That's what I'm saying. But actors become actors because they enjoy shows and movies.

[Moses]

Maybe every lawyer right now wants to be on the Didi case or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, like, they probably do.

[Moses]

But I'm saying, like, if you go and see a lawyer, he's not gonna assume that everyone wants to do his work and job.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every lawyer wants right now wants to be on All's Fair, the new Ryan Murphy show coming to fx. Have you seen the trailer for it?

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Starring Kim Kardashian, Glenn Close, Sarah Paulson, Niecy Nash.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what? How do they get such a big cast?

[Oscar]

Ryan Murphy, he's got the girls ready for a check.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, and Kim Kardashian leading it. I'm not a hater, but that's crazy.

[Oscar]

It is crazy that, like, Kim Kardashian is, like, the lead on the ensemble. Like, she's the top of the call sheet, and then it's like, Glenn Close and, like, Sarah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So wild. What do you think about it? You think it's gonna be good?

[Oscar]

I don't know if it'll be good, but I will be seated for it. It does seem entertaining. I haven't tuned into a Ryan Murphy project in quite some time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Since Glee, I. I've been tuned in for a couple American Horror Story seasons. I wasn't into the. I guess, actually, technically, the Menendez brothers is the last thing I saw Big, but I didn't Finish it. I just saw the first couple episodes, but really, why? It just felt a little too incestual for me. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, shout out. Cooper Koch. She did a Calvin Klein photo shoot. He looked good. He looked really good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really do appreciate those ads. They do look good. Mm. Underwear. Always. Always.

[Oscar]

But, yeah, other than that. I haven't seen a Ryan Murphy project in quite some time, but this one seems, at the very least, entertaining. I kind of wish Emma Roberts was in it for a little bit more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she not?

[Oscar]

No. She's only one of the Ryan Murphy muses. Not in the project. But I feel like she was.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was busy with Matt Rife on the new movie.

[Oscar]

My God, y' all. Emma Roberts and Matt Rife in a new movie. It was announced. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would, as much as I would love to be a movie star, would always say no to project. If someone's like, yeah, you can be Audrey and Little Shop and Matt Rice going to be Seymour, I'd be like, absolutely not. Let's stop this production. Let's never put that out there. Ever.

[Oscar]

A romantic comedy of all things called Marriage Material.

[Trisha Paytas]

His face is so annoying. I can never look at him the same again. Like, he is just. He's just awful. He's just awful. Like, all the things he said about women and stuff. Like, why would you even want to work with someone like that? The way you talk about people's like, women. I get it's like a joke, but it's also like, that's your humor. Like, oh, that's. Who are you?

[Oscar]

Especially considering he was, like, anti being having a all or a majority of women being his demographic. And now starring in a romantic comedy that follows the founder of a dating app whose deadbeat husband's alimony payments are bleeding her dry, so she must use it to find him a new wife before her company goes public. And it's from the. The people who brought you Pitch Perfect three in the sleepover. So literally the girliest media ever. And then the girls that you said you hated. You want us to be seated and pay for tickets to your movie now?

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't do it, girls.

[Oscar]

Be gays.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't do it.

[Oscar]

We have to stand strong, y' all. Sorry, Emma Roberts, but I have to stand strong.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Literally, just. I know. And we do love Emma Roberts, and it's really, really sad. When I saw that, I was like, that's the saddest.

[Oscar]

That is crazy. When that comes. I swear to God, whenever this movie is doing its promotion, I'm going to post everywhere him saying, he doesn't care about, like, women being his demo. He doesn't care if he makes women laugh. His comedy is for men.

[Trisha Paytas]

He hates your outy vagina.

[Oscar]

He hates your outy vagina and everything else.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And I hope the Avengers that took him down the first place. Brooke Scofield. Get that group chat going and let's reassemble and stop this movie from making a freaking bag. Absolutely not.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right. I don't profit off the community that you hate.

[Oscar]

Yeah. You were making all the girls seem like fools, and now you want us to come and pay a movie ticket price. No. At least Glen Powell and Sydney Sweeney. They're for the girls, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. They know the audience. Keep going that direction. He really missed the mark.

[Oscar]

A romantic comedy is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Doesn't need to be canceled. I just think it's irredeemable. And as me as a woman.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think if you are trying to profit off of a group of people and you don't respect them or you think that they are, their taste is, like, low brow and not what you want to be associated with. Fine, then stay in your lane. Obviously, he's very successful with that demographic anyway, you know the guys and pick me. So the world are, like, loving him. Okay, then stay over there. Don't come over here in my territory. I love. Are you kidding? I loved pitch perfect 1, 2, and 3. I love 3 is wild. But I love Hailee Steinfeld and she was in 37.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Mike White wrote it.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to say we googled him and he did, like, Pitch Perfect three.

[Oscar]

They work. Yeah. I mean, I saw it in theaters crying out loud, like, I love Pitch Perfect. I love the Sleepover. I love Easy A is my favorite movie of all time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sleepover was Alexa Vega.

[Oscar]

Wasn't it the Rob Schneider one? Wasn't he the one?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's hot chick.

[Oscar]

Oh, you're right. You're right. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sleepover, I think, was Alexa Vega.

[Oscar]

Yes. You're so right. Yes, yes, yes. I got it mixed up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where she's like skateboarding hot chickens.

[Oscar]

Ashley Simpson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one?

[Oscar]

Ashlee Simpson was Rob Schneider.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was literally like one line in that movie. But I loved Ashley Simpson.

[Oscar]

Of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was great. It was Rachel McAdams and Anna Faris. I loved it.

[Oscar]

I know the COVID of the Sleepover. She's wearing the feather boa. Alexa Vega pink feather boa with a little eye mask.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. That is the right one. Hot chick. They would have loved Labubus because they had giant keychains and they would have loved Labubu for sure with their yellow beetle bug and.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. Labubus are very. And the crybabies, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the crybabies. I'm really into them. They. They're like crying for love is what the package said. It's so cute.

[Oscar]

I would love to see you be, like, the host of a little Pop Mart TikTok. TikTok Shop moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would love to sell these little babies. They're so cute. It's giving like my crying on the kitchen floor. You're so right.

[Oscar]

You should be the brick and sculpt person for these.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crying with their big cheeks. They're just. They really are so. I'm into cutesy things lately. Even this croc purse I got off TikTok Shop. I've been like a TikTok Shop person. I was like, ooh, I need that, that, and that. So I would love to. I would love to be. I guess QVC's not thing anymore. I guess it's TikTok Shop. I would love to be a TikTok Shop host.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Although those ladies are working and gays are, at least for Popmart, are working around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, there is a Popmart one.

[Oscar]

There's like five different Popmart TikTok lives I would love. And it does seem stressful. Cause everyone is spamming. Where the Labubus? Where are the Labubus?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm dead.

[Oscar]

I love that even Darian has been watching the Spanish Pop Mart Tick Tock Live Shop. Because it's less people. Yeah. So he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

He should host that one then.

[Oscar]

He honestly should. But he would get stressed out because literally, like, the girls are always like, we're sorry. No the boo Boos yet. Although they lied yesterday. I finally was trying to buy them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Off the Tick Tock shop, but they say, lo siento. No, they said no boo boos.

[Oscar]

And then five minutes later, they dropped the boo boos. But I, like, wasn't paying attention. And then I came back and, like, sorry, the boo Boo sold out. And I was like, you told me that there were no the boo Boos today. Like, you literally said, sorry, guys. No the Boo Boo. Stop spamming the chat. Anyway, that's what I was going through yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I do like that name for our third baby we call Malibu Malala Boo Boo now because it's so cute.

[Oscar]

So good.

[Trisha Paytas]

She has no idea because I can't show her the Labubus because she's gonna start playing with them. And I'm like, no. So Pop Mart, feel free to set.

[Moses]

I guess she's gonna paint them.

[Trisha Paytas]

She will paint them. She paints everything and it will be destroyed sometimes.

[Oscar]

Maybe get her a lefufu and have her paint that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, is that legal? I'll do it if I can get it. I would get her a lefoufu for sure, but. Yeah. That's Sleepover is great. What happened to Alexa Vega? She's still around.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like she's friends with Matt and Abby is the vibe. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's all you need to say. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

Well, yeah. Yeah. And then we know where her Spy Kid co star is. Meghan Trainor. I guess they're both still, you know, around, so. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does he act?

[Oscar]

I don't know if he acts anymore. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very good looking. I met him briefly in person and he was very good looking.

[Oscar]

Oh, Daryl, Daryl, Daryl. Sabri Sabara, maybe. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

He's very cute and I love the. Their oldest baby is so cute. Kind of looks like him with the glasses. Get out of town. Meghan Trainor and Daryl Sobera have the cutest little babies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Babies with glasses or like, even toddlers are so cute because they have those, like, little wraparound ones. They're so adorable. I love it. How do you know that they can't see at that age?

[Oscar]

I'm sure they must do some, like, vision tests or something because you're running into something, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Like, I wanted to know. Like, how do you know for your child if they can see it?

[Oscar]

They must. Because they also do hearing tests when you're a baby too.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's like a baby baby, like when you're in the hospital the first day.

[Oscar]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't know the testing for vision impaired babies. But how was I. I remember the first time I got glasses, I was like, in second grade, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you just like, what? What? How did you know? How did you know to say something?

[Oscar]

I think I was just trying to. I'm pro. I'm assuming I don't have the. I have the memory of coming out of the eye exam and being so excited and running out and being like, looking at all the glasses. I have that, like, memory. So perfect. But I'm assuming it was probably in school trying to, like, read the board or something and not being able to see. Yeah. And then obviously I think teachers know to be like, vision problems, but I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Told you I faked mine to get glasses.

[Oscar]

I think a lot of people did. Because it was a cool thing to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have as a kid to get glasses at school. This was before they had the fake ones. I remember I was just like, I can't see. And I saw it perfectly and I just messed up on purpose. So then I started wearing the glasses every day and I think it messed up.

[Oscar]

Yeah, exactly. The karma came around. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I really can't see. And I was like, like, dang. But like, my. My brother, my sister, they all have, like, my sister. Yeah. I think they all have, like 2020 vision. They never had glasses or contacts.

[Oscar]

My whole fam. At least my parents. My parents. My brothers don't need glasses, but my parents do. I guess it is really becoming my platform now because of you, the glasses community.

[Trisha Paytas]

We have to speak out more for it. As they should. Honestly, I. I feel like it's a psa.

[Oscar]

Even when I had contacts briefly in high school, I was getting contacts just to wear fake glasses, which is kind of weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why would you want to wear. Why don't you get, like, real prescriptions put in them?

[Oscar]

I think because it was around the time this cursed now, obviously, but remember, Kanye had, like, the blinder, like, glasses, like the ones where it had the. It was like the glasses, but it had like. I don't know, they were like blinders where it was just like little slits coming around. Oh, this was like 2002, I think. So they're really popular. And then all of a sudden, everyone was having these big fake glasses, like huge ones or white ones or whatever. But we couldn't afford to get all these different pairs of glasses. So I would just wear contacts and then mix up different styles of glasses to be, like, trendy. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you have to be, like, economical, I suppose, work.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me just. Because you could buy. Were they plastic?

[Oscar]

Yes, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never like those. I remember people wearing those. I'm like, this is weird.

[Oscar]

You couldn't really see out of them. So it was like, a little counterproductive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I did love when Gaga. I think she also had, like, big diamonds on her glasses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, hers were everything.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gaga's on tour. I'm so excited. Can't see her, but I still love her.

[Oscar]

At least she'll live vicariously through Jimmy, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I'm so excited. Jimmy, I got two tickets for you. Two nights for you. Benson Boone. Sold out in, like, five minutes.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Moses, what do you think about that?

[Moses]

I know. I still see people crushing and falling. It's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's his tick tock.

[Moses]

It's still happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they're flipping. He's flipping live for everybody selling out. Playing arenas. What's he playing Arenas?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He seems to come out of nowhere just like all of a sudden. Playing arenas or what?

[Oscar]

And sold out pretty quickly, too. But it's crazy. It is fierce. Yeah, but I guess there is so much hype. It's like, I want to see how many times he backflips live, you know? Like, it is going to be quite a show. That Moonbeam Ice Cream song is kind of everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

It sounds too close to Queen to me.

[Oscar]

Yeah, actually, you know what I mean.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ice Cream that is in your hand.

[Moses]

Because he has another song that sounds like 80s songs.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's his song.

[Moses]

He has a song that's exactly like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's called Physical. And it sounds like that.

[Moses]

It sounds like that, but not called Physical.

[Oscar]

Number one, Benson Boone hater is Moses.

[Moses]

No, I. I like him, but I'm.

[Oscar]

It doesn't sound like it.

[Moses]

Yeah, I have musical. Like, when I hear a song, I can tell if there's a part of it that comes from another song. I'm like, wait, that whole chorus is the original song.

[Oscar]

Like that one guy on TikTok. Have you seen him? He plays one song and then he plays a song that sounds like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

We talked about that. Was it James Charles knocked off? What song did you say?

[Oscar]

Demi Lovato or something?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. You called it, though. And no one ever did that on Patreon. Oscar clocked it. James Charles had a song that came out, like, last year, and it sounded just like. And I never had heard that other one. Demi Lovato. What was it?

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. I'm forgetting which one it was. He used to cover it all the time. Skyscraper something. Yeah, it was a ballad, and he used to cover it all the time. And then he had a song that sounded like it was like, okay, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I love the poop. That's like this versus this. People do steal all the songs. That is so funny. You're gonna go see him.

[Moses]

Benson Boone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Seeky Ziki.

[Moses]

I don't know. Is it appropriate for kids?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't think Malibu can go because I think it's too loud.

[Moses]

So. No, I'm not gonna say.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not going to that one. Maybe with the Wiggles, when they come to town, I want to go see Baby Shark. They're alive, but they're at Sea World.

[Oscar]

I was like, oh, no, you have.

[Trisha Paytas]

To go inside to go see Baby Shark. I was so sad about it.

[Oscar]

That is problematic.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did ask my Album. You want to go see Baby Shark? Shark? No.

[Oscar]

She doesn't even know. She knows already. She's already a little. She did bendier when coated.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. She was like, no. Oh, yeah. I love bendier when she's been here for it too, lately.

[Oscar]

Well, another singer that we can talk about is Morgan Wallen. He finally explained his controversial SNL walk off. Oh, the one that resulted in. Honestly, the meme was kind of good, but not because of Morgan Wallen. Because of everyone who took it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the Internet made it good. Not him.

[Oscar]

The Get Me to God's Country. It is part of my vernacular, so I love that. Me at Pop Mark. Get Me to God's Country.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Oscar]

Well, he did a. A podcast. What was it called again? Oh, Sunday Conversation with Caleb Presley. You heard of it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Never.

[Oscar]

Me either.

[Trisha Paytas]

That sounds awful. Sunday Conversation sounds a horrible name.

[Oscar]

And it's, I guess, like kind of a satirical, like, unserious podcast for context, I guess. But there was another clip before I get into the God's country bit, there was another clip where the interviewer was like, oh, so you talk. Are you gay? Like, you haven't been dating anyone. Are you gay? And Morgan Wallen goes, no, I'm not gay. Are you gay? And then it was like a whole bit about, like, these straight, like, country dudes. Dudes being like, gay or not. Whatever. I'm like, this is it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wasn't it what year?

[Oscar]

I guess it was a bit because then the guy, the host was like, pointing to, like his co host or whatever and was like, yeah, like, we are thing or whatever. I'm like, what year are we in? Like 2002. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? That part, like, so odd. New writers. Was this filmed in the South?

[Oscar]

I have no idea. He. Morgan Wallen, obviously country. But the two guys weren't. They were like, bro, y. But they weren't like country guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Yeah, we talked about this last time too. Like, guys being like, yeah, we're gay. It's like, okay, so weird.

[Oscar]

I feel like we are regressing as a society, so it is kind of important. But he did get asked about the. The walk off moment, and he got asked if he was mad and is that why he walked off and he said, no, I was ready to go home. I'd been there all week. Which I feel like is his genuine answer. And it's like no one forced you, like, put a gun to your head and said, perform at snl. Weirdo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's so excited. Like, people go to after parties after snl, Ye like, he had. He couldn't wait one more minute to say goodbye?

[Oscar]

At least you can't say a lot about Benson Moon, obviously, but at least she was flipping over and over and over again. So happy to be there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everybody's happy.

[Moses]

Still live. Wait for the cameras to turn off.

[Oscar]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

It only takes three minutes to say goodbye to everyone.

[Oscar]

At least wait for the music to stop. Like, you couldn't literally have waited another minute. Weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're there all week because. I know. It's like, Monday is, like, the writers, and then Tuesday is the pitch, and then Wednesday they pick the sketches, and then I don't think even they rehearse till Thursday and Friday. So he's a musical actor, so I don't think the musical act is whatever. I hate it so much. Hope they never ask him back.

[Oscar]

I know. I hope so. Like, you know, take a stand, I guess. He's so popular, but damn. Like, he obviously is just miserable.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, the Matt Rice of the world. Like, all these people, like, are who are watching them.

[Oscar]

It is funny because I have never, like, met a Matt Rice. I mean, my wife Stan, but also a Morgan Wallen Stan, ever. But then you look at the charts, and it's like, people really live for, I guess. But it's a part of the world that I don't know and doesn't know us at least. So let's keep it that way, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know it, but I don't want to know it. SNL invited me into their finale rap party. Their series finale rap party.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. It's a Saturday and I'm in. I know. I was so excited. I got invited to the SNL series wrap party. And then.

[Oscar]

Series or season?

[Trisha Paytas]

Season. Season.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did I say? Series.

[Oscar]

Series.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I'm like, oh, it's awesome.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's hosting this week?

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, it was. Oh, Scarlett Johansson.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was so sad. I probably would have gone. And then I also got invited to the For Good trailer premiere. I could see the For Good trailer early at. I can't say where, but.

[Oscar]

And you're touring for that, too. Yeah, that's why. Okay, I know you were teasing. Like, maybe you'll be on tour forever. I swear to God, I'm locking you down. Me and that baby are gonna lock you down and keep you from freaking traveling because it's just. It's too much. Okay. We're Miss you. There's. Imagine you probably could have been on Traders. You probably could have been a white lotus. Like you could have been with Ariana. You would. You and Scarlett Jo at the for good thing. You and Scarlett Johansson could have been. You kids will probably be friends if you went to this SNL thing and they'll probably have everyone just freaking hosted. Walton Goggins will probably be back because.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does live over. Yeah, east coast.

[Oscar]

So you're right. Those SNL events are star studded. Every time they have a little party like I am. So I'm, you know, the touring is going to be, it's going to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's gonna be a couple years. I'm gonna give myself like two years to really go get them in Hollywood. I have my new headshots because I do feel that way, you know and it's, I love the tour, it's been great. But yeah, I, but anyways, again, I need to get people to miss me. I can't go back to Sacramento next year that we just saw you, you know.

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Oscar]

Look at Taylor, she's, you know, keeping it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Low key after the tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Taylor Swift for sure.

[Oscar]

Whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Next time she's on tour, I'm on tour.

[Oscar]

You can't go at the same time. Right. When she ends.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of course I continue it always. Of course.

[Moses]

You're the closing tour.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

You can open air but you're the closer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. That's exactly what I am. And yeah, I agree. I know I gotta really focus on the networking, the getting out there, the opportunities and I think that will be in the next year for sure. You get my boobs done and some lipo. I don't know about that. Possibly a cruise. That's only five days. I could go on a little cruise.

[Oscar]

Yeah, a cruise is fine. We can accept a cruise.

[Moses]

But yeah, just make sure it's the right one.

[Oscar]

Yes, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why, what does that mean? The right way.

[Oscar]

Sex cruise.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah. Well, we're not doing a gay sex cruise.

[Oscar]

It's a little much. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It could be a gayish cruise.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it can be in private. There's not in, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, don't put any pineapples outside your door. Just do what you guys do in private. For sure.

[Moses]

Suddenly half of the people are like, oh no, we can't go.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I'm sorry. Maybe in like 20 years then we might do one, I don't know, a little swap.

[Moses]

They can have their pineapples. Has nothing to do with us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh right, yeah, that's true. Have your pineapples. Do whatever you want to do? I don't know. It's so funny because the pineapple thing I just like recently found out about because I like wearing. We have pineapples on our shirt. Like, we like pineapples. And I'm like, that means this, that you're a swinger. Like, all right.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Something like upside down. I don't know. It's like, people are weird.

[Oscar]

Well, I guess. Speaking of. The topics are hot. Simon Cowell admitted that he briefly considered judging two fans having sex after. After they offered him 150, 000. Yeah. I was like, did he make this up?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because first of all, that's a low amount for anyone's standards. And it's like your time in Cowell. He definitely made it up. Where was she talking about?

[Oscar]

He was talking about it on a podcast, the how to Fail podcast. He said, people asked me to be rude to them and he, he won't do that. When people, when fans come up to him, ask him to be rude, he would say, no. But he did say, that's true. It is rude. Turn him down, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you turned on fans taking pictures. They're like, most head picture. He's like, no, okay, glad you're on a Simon Cow.

[Oscar]

He said, another fag came up in a man. It was a man. He said, would you judge us having sex? And he said, are you winding me up? And they went, no, we'll pay you. Simon then asked him how much? And he was surprised that it was a lot of money and he thought about doing it, but he ultimately decided that the request wasn't for him and he said, no, I just can't do it. But he did say it was $150,000. I know there are weird people out there, but I feel like no one is coming up and being like, who has the. Has the fantasy, the kink and the finances to be like, can you judge us having sex?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's a made up story, 100%. I think also he wouldn't be like, oh, that's a lot of money. Because he's Simon Cowell.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

From all, like the record labels, the shows he created, the talent shows.

[Oscar]

This sounds like a bit you would have come up with back in your trolling days.

[Trisha Paytas]

Absolutely. He definitely, he definitely has something like me on his team. He's like, what's going to be viral? What's the story we put out there? And like, oh, you should say this. Why do people make up stories that are so inauthentic? Like, it's Just like, was he even, like, promoting or talking about. Good question. On a podcast. He's just telling stories.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I guess. Got to come up with something. It does kind of remind me of, like, in hacks, like, if you're going on Deborah Vance's show, I guess, or just a talk show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Could be a real one. Doesn't have to be fictional.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but we are the hacks thing, too. You're very right. Just come up with a story.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I do always think about that. Like, in general, like, with talk shows, like, how they come. Like, celebrities come, and they have to, like, know what kind of relatable story they're gonna tell.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's always so boring. It's always like, never interesting or fun. It's like, I don't know. Right. They pre rehearse them. And I hate that about talk shows. If I were to ever go on a talk show, I would literally, like, throw it all out the window. I would just, like, talk about something else completely. Just, like, throw them off. Like Jimmy Fallon. I would love to see him. Not prepared. Like, we have all the questions. Okay. You're gonna tell a funny story about, you know, Lilo and Stitch or something, and then just completely throw him off and be like, so one time I had sex with an entire baseball team and see, like, what he would say, you know, I wonder if he would. Is it live? No, that's not live anymore.

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jimmy Kimmel's not even live, is he?

[Oscar]

I don't think so, because they film during the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he used to be live, right? You became alive. It used to be Jamie came live, probably.

[Oscar]

Or maybe they still call it that. But yeah, they filmed during the day because I've done, like, when they've done performances, they sometimes will have, like, ticketed events like this website, one iota to, like, get one iota. Me too. And I saw Miley Cyrus that way. She was performing at Kimmel and then. But it was during the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were you outside or inside?

[Oscar]

Outside.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess you're right. They probably would, like, cut me or something like that. Because I would love to just see how it would be, like, live, you know? I guess if I go on SNL again, I could always just throw it for a loop and just go off. Go off script. I think you're being forever.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think that wouldn't. Okay, I won't do that.

[Oscar]

But I think that's the intrusive thought would be there.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure. For sure. I know. Watching Never Vance on Hex, you know, he's really good on Jake Shane. He's so good.

[Oscar]

Shane, y' all is eating up his role on Hacks. He's so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like the perfect amount of, like, annoying influencer. It's like, such a good actor with her and doing the. The quickness of it. I was like, wow, he's really.

[Oscar]

Yes. I'm living for him on Hack. And I thought because his first line was, like, really short. So I was like, is that. Is that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

But he actually is getting some good camera time.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's funny. And it hasn't been like, cut or anything, you know, like. Because it's always, like, the beginning of a scene or something. But it is. It does set the scene of the world we're in or what the world ever Vance is in, which is all these, like, young social content. Because, you know, he's just trying to get that content. I love the passing of the chips. He's like, okay, we're gonna throw you the chips and then pass those.

[Oscar]

Yes. And if you guys haven't seen it, he just basically makes. Makes Deborah Vance, who is like, obviously an older talk show host who has no idea about social media. He makes her do all these, like, cringy social media trends and stuff. And it's just. It is very real because I've also been the Jake Shane, like, that job of, like, you know, you have the older hosts, and you're like, having to make them do these trends and stuff and explain it to them. And it's like, it is. You feel stupid explaining it. They feel stupid doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's like.

[Oscar]

It's so lame.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I love when they do it. The perfect example is the guy I love, Kyle McLachlan. Like, they always make him do, like, cringy stuff, but he, like, goes for it. And I love that about him. I'm like, charlie XDX used my sound the other day.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, we forgot to talk about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I did a duet this morning to her. I was gagged. I am now a Charli xcx. Stand for Life Brat. Summer two. Here we go. I was like, let me feature. I kind of gagged. I know she probably didn't know it was my sound. I didn't know it was my sound. People were tagging me, and I was like, what is this from? It was so random, so obscure. It's not even like a viral sound. It was me on Guinness World Records for fastest soccer, and it's me doing the Hamlet soliloquy. So I'm like, to Be an art to me that is the question was no limit. So it's like this really like fast. And she used it. I was like, so gag. Do you think she knew or she thinks she's like. This is a funny sound.

[Oscar]

I want to say she knew, but also knowing the. Knowing Terry, her social media and like her person, like her creative director. I don't know his exact title, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Katy Perry video he got me on the character.

[Oscar]

Oh, Terry does that. He does Charlie xcx Heim Lord. I think maybe Addison Rae too. And I know that Terry is a fan of yours.

[Trisha Paytas]

So shout out Terry.

[Oscar]

Terry. He's holding it down for saying, if.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am successful in life, it'll be the gays.

[Oscar]

Every successful one it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm telling you, everything with Katy Perry was. And I remember they said like, oh, Terry, they like, like everybody. Every. Every magazine thing I've done has been gay. Like everything Bowen. Like everything is the gays.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So thank you for making me cool. And I love it so much. I was very excited. Everyone was tagging me. I got excited and I due editor this morning with this hair and everyone thought I was doing Addison Rae cosplay. It's supposed to be Gwen Stefani, but.

[Oscar]

Oh, I do see the Addison. Yeah, headphones on.

[Trisha Paytas]

We talked about it. With the purple hoodie. I did talk about it. It is supposed to be Gwen, but Addison rae new album, June 6th, the Day I'm Beth Pride streaming.

[Oscar]

What a day for the gays.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know Addison. I wish she was there. Oh my God. If she was at Pride, I would gag. But maybe she'll be at We Hope Pride. I just did a little promo for We Hope Pride, so maybe she'll be there. May 30th through June 1st. Not sponsored here, but I'll be sponsored on Tick Tock. So go to WeHo Pride.

[Oscar]

That does remind me. I got an email. I don't know if it was for me. It was to my work email. So I don't know if who it was meant for, but it was like the being paid to do the Tick Tock dances and I was like, damn, yeah, what is going on? I'm like, no. I reply because I don't. I don't know if it was for me personally. All right. I don't know if we gotta. I don't know if it was sent to like the Entertainment Tonight Tick Tock or like for. Because I get. People find, like companies do find my work email and send me stuff like Oscar, the just Trish version, but a Lot of the times it's stuff like E.T.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar]

But it wasn't offered to do the gnarly dance. And I was like, I would do that for free. But then it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

So are you gonna do it?

[Oscar]

Maybe I should just do it and be like, look, I did it, and then they don't pay me. I would still do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, they'll pay. They pay up front. Like, that's what I love. I was just talking most about the sound promos. They pay before you post fears. Yeah. And it's always from, like, a reputable, like, you know, TikTok or something. Yeah, yeah, they. They do. They. They do pay for sound promo.

[Oscar]

It was fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should make your own TikTok so that way.

[Oscar]

I know. Well, I. We were. The only idea I had for TikTok was doing the Jennifer Hudson, like, spirit tunnel thing for once a guest comes here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar]

Gotta get on that soon so I can do that TikTok, I guess. And then my other one was the. Now the sounds like, kind of old, but it's like us drink, take a sip, like, if you know the word or whatever. Remember that one that Jimmy sent us a couple weeks ago?

[Trisha Paytas]

If you know the.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We have our content. But yeah.

[Oscar]

I don't know if this offer was for, like, Entertainment Tonight by accident, just because they have a lot of followers or if it was meant for me, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, do they want you to post on the Entertainment Tonight? Maybe.

[Oscar]

I couldn't tell the difference.

[Trisha Paytas]

What if you did that? What if you did? You danced to Gnarly Fierce. Would you get in trouble?

[Oscar]

Probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love if he did that. Let's do it today. Let's take it over.

[Oscar]

Dance is also so hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't seen it.

[Oscar]

They'd be trying to copy and then. It's hard. It's hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

This one is.

[Oscar]

It's not like the touch one where I can kind of fake it.

[Trisha Paytas]

This one was hard, too. That one, I was like, what?

[Oscar]

This one is intense. The. The girls are too fierce for me. It's like they be. Wait, Avi. Avi. They be trying to copy. I'm legit. And then it's like, I'm legit. I don't know. I really can't do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's pretty good.

[Oscar]

The song has grown on me a lot. For the record, I. I've watched so many of their performances, and now I love Gnarly.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love Gnarly. Yes.

[Oscar]

I love it. Yeah. You've been from the top. It took me Narthi. I love Cat's eye. Gnarly. Took me a second to, like, fully get the vision. Now I fully get the vision.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Sometimes it happens, but yeah, the check to dance that song. I'm like, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. So I can. You're gonna do it?

[Oscar]

Maybe. I kind of want to do it just for fun anyway, but it's gonna take me a long time to learn it. By the time I learn it, I feel like the offer will be.

[Trisha Paytas]

The thing about sound promos, and they're like. I wouldn't say they harass you, but they literally, like. I remember I got one, and I was like, I didn't respond for an hour. Can you do this? We need this now. We can pay you right away. Like, they're so. Like, they need it right away. And I was like, damn, they're really on it. And I did love it. Back in the day, I would do sound promos all the time. And now sometimes I just even skip it because I just don't have the time to do it. But they are. They are so easy. Easy and so great. But, yeah, just wild. I never did sound promos for my songs. Maybe I should.

[Oscar]

But I was gonna say, because Alex Warren is number two on the Billboard Hot 100. Number two. Which is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, his songs are all over TikTok. I don't know if they do the sound promo or if he just. I think he does his own sound promo.

[Oscar]

I think it's a mix of him just promoting it everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does. He will never do a TikTok. That's not his sound.

[Oscar]

That's what you got to be doing for Gay. Even Cali. For Bubbly. Cali came up, has, like, a tick tock dance that she. That she does. Yes. At your party. At your birthday party, Bubbly came on, and Cali did a whole bubbly dance break. And I was like, how you need to do this on something?

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know. Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

I didn't give Cali some money to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do this promos for everybody. I guess it works because he really is, like, top of the charts.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So you got to get on it for Gay. Got to get on it for Bubbly. You could have dance challenges. In my head, I do have a dance challenge for me and Ted Nivis and to Gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Are you gonna do it?

[Oscar]

Maybe when he's here, I can make him do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I gotta start looking at my June schedule because I do have to start scheduling some guests.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

For that.

[Oscar]

Because it's like, we're almost like the. The Jesse J. Like, the price tag one was like, everybody look to your left. And then they pan to the person next to them.

[Trisha Paytas]

That one.

[Oscar]

Well, we can do that for gay. We're all a little gay. And then like, oh, Lane, it's me with a little red flag. Like the bull.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, that's actually. It goes good with the song, cuz it's like all a little gay.

[Oscar]

Oh, and then like, oh, a little gay. And then like rainbows gay. And then it's me with the rainbow Birkin. Then like iced coffee. Almost like your music video. And then me drinking nice coffee. Perfect.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They should just recreate the video. That's actually so smart work.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Platforms, crop tops.

[Oscar]

So me and Ted Nivsen. I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's going to wear the crop top?

[Oscar]

Probably Ted Nivsen. I'll probably make him wear it. I don't think he's ever worn one before. But now's the time. It's for a good cause.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love all the profits go to.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. It does. That's. That's the point right there. That's where it is. Maybe like an ice bucket challenge, but gay. Kim Badgley put wax in everyone's rectum for gay. We're all a little gay.

[Oscar]

Put wax in your rectum for gay challenge. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would be such a good Airbnb experience. They just came out that all these celebrities you can hang with, like Sabrina Carpenter for the day and have espresso.

[Oscar]

And layup Meg the Stallion and watch anime.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wonderful. They should have Penn Badgley do that. Like, poor rectum. In your poor rectum. In your poor rectom. In your rectum. You know, people would sign up for that.

[Oscar]

You. Yeah, you and Moses.

[Moses]

Sasha Brown Coin will be excited for.

[Trisha Paytas]

What were you watching the other day? He's like, she should work with Sasha Baron Cohen. I was like, that's random. What? Oh. Oh, my.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. We watched this movie with Amy Schumer. Her sense of humor is crazy. Anyways, that's a whole other thing. I like Penn Badgley a lot. I really hope he comes on. Maybe I should DM him. I have so many questions about all these stories he's making up. I'm like, are these real or is he just, like, randomly making this up?

[Oscar]

I feel like the wax in the rectum thing is real, but why call it a rectum? I guess to be politically correct. You're whole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

You want to say, I hold it to my hole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Rectum is crazy.

[Moses]

He has to use a word that won't get Censored.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, hold it. You can say it as many times as you want.

[Oscar]

What would you have said? Moses. Which. If you had to describe putting wax. Wax in that part, what terminology would have used? I feel like he's a good.

[Moses]

I think I would never be in that situation.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not true. Don't even. Don't even. You have experience with wax in my.

[Oscar]

In your what? In your.

[Trisha Paytas]

In your what? Wax in your what?

[Moses]

I'll say the way. The way we said with Malibu in the Butt butt. That's cute. I was like, you gotta go wipe your butt butt.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then when I go in the shower, it's like, you know, you're not gonna shower. And he's like, mommy needs to wipe her butt. But I was like, all right, let's not talk about want the butt butt anymore.

[Moses]

That's what I would say.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Butt butt's crazy. But okay, I like that one. Maybe won't get flagged for that one.

[Moses]

Wait, did he say what he did to his penis?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What did he. Oh, his Speedo to cover it, I guess so.

[Oscar]

I feel like putting wax on your little. What do you call it? Split is kind of crazy.

[Moses]

Or you wear a condom or something like that.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Might seep in there.

[Oscar]

A condom on your.

[Moses]

To protect that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe put wax on. Let's contact him. Dm.

[Moses]

There's more questions?

[Oscar]

Yeah, questions. Well, even when they do those, like, penis molds and stuff. How do they do that?

[Trisha Paytas]

They do penis molds for what?

[Oscar]

Scotty sire did one for what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like chocolate or what?

[Oscar]

I actually don't know what the purpose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Holly did one for chocolate. Like a chocolate vagina for Valentine's Day.

[Oscar]

I know some. I don't know if his or Scotty's was maybe Toddy too. I don't know if it was for this, but people get mold. So then you can like. Like for fans to, like, have. Feel like they're having sex with, like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like to make a toy.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but I don't know if his was for that. But I don't. Also don't know. How do you even do that? Like, you have to get hard and put it in a mold. That's so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Put wax over it or something. Maybe.

[Oscar]

That's what I'm saying.

[Moses]

I would guess. I would guess that they do it the way they do it with your teeth. You know, there's like. There's like that special rubber.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It's not hot or anything, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like. Like, Oscar said to get it performance worthy, so they Got.

[Moses]

They have to get erect.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then you put a mold over it. Will you stay that way?

[Oscar]

Reach out to Scotty side for a statement.

[Moses]

It works pretty fast.

[Trisha Paytas]

We haven't talked about him in like a year and it's wonderful.

[Oscar]

No, what do you mean? You love talking about Scotty Sire for a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, because even just bring up that name, I was like, that sounds like it brought me back to 2018. I was like, where do you.

[Moses]

Yeah, we moved from him into a Zane and Heat for a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like making podcasts with our queens.

[Moses]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Scotty's doing literally nothing. I mean, I don't know. We. I mean, it's good. Live a life of contentment and peace off the Internet. But it's also like, oh, my God. That, like, made me spiral for a minute.

[Oscar]

I was like, oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Scotty Sire.

[Oscar]

You were talking about him a lot like a year ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Well, he was kind of like in our face, right? He was kind of.

[Oscar]

He talked about selling his music or something.

[Moses]

It was mostly about. Yeah, that catalog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stop tagging me anything. No one tags me in it because he's not doing it. Oh, man. That is Scotty Sire. Well, men have it crazy to think about it. When you think about having the penis is crazy. Like, it is wild. What you have to like, keep up.

[Oscar]

What do you.

[Moses]

I think. I think it's crazier for women.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Ours is pretty simple.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Like periods and everything.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. But sex wise, just. We could have eaten a full meal. We don't. We could not be in the mood no matter what. You could just stick it in guys either if you're gonna bottom, you're gonna have to like, not eat douche, all that stuff like that. And if you're a guy, no matter. You still have to get it up.

[Oscar]

I feel like that's the easier part.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because we. With somebody that gets up like.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but a lot of guys have trouble. And then I feel bad. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so. That's so sad.

[Oscar]

I do have a friend that has gay. And then like has done like of scenes with straight guys and they do have to inject themselves to get. Which seems crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's fluffers, coke. There's so much things like. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, girls can literally.

[Moses]

But that's about industry because you have to keep it up for long periods, insane periods of time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, but what if someone was like, in the mood and you're like, sorry, I just literally can't right now. Like, you're just not. Like, your grandma died or something, and you're just like. But your partner is like, well, maybe.

[Moses]

They should take the time to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I could just lay there and, like, I'll just be sad, and then it's, you know, whatever, But. But you guys can't. You got to think about something else. You got to switch your mind.

[Oscar]

I don't think if you were, like, depressed. I'm, like, grieving the loss of your grandmother. You should be, like, laying there and getting banged. Anyway, I think you should be like, I'm sorry. Now is not the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, true.

[Moses]

But I guess it could be like, them and.

[Trisha Paytas]

But what if you want to, right? Like, what if you want to? Like, your grandma just died, and you're like, this will get it off my mind. But you physically can't because you're, like, on my mind. Like, you know, that sucks.

[Oscar]

I don't think you should be having intercourse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes you're just like, okay, I needed that. That was good. But if you can't physically do it, oh, my God. That would be. I feel bad. I don't want a penis anymore. I used to want a penis. I don't think I want one anymore. I think it sounds awful. And if it gets shot off, like, Joe Goldberg, then he's having a baby. We should talk out to them. Him or his wife's having a baby.

[Moses]

First wife?

[Oscar]

No, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

They have, like, three kids. She had one from a previous marriage. They had one together. I know so much about this. And they're currently pregnant with twins, so maybe they're having a baby the same time. I just love people who have babies around the same time. I want to be like, let's be friends. You know what I mean? Maybe invite Elvis's birthday.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think you got to go through Domino Kirk instead of Pen Badgley, though, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Might be weird to be like, I.

[Oscar]

Think Domino seems more your speed. She seemed very chill.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true.

[Oscar]

Her sister is the one. You know that meme that's like, what the hell? Sure. Yeah. Have you seen that Mean.

[Trisha Paytas]

What show?

[Oscar]

Her sister is Jemima Kirk, and she.

[Moses]

Was the little girl that was.

[Oscar]

No.

[Moses]

Now she's old, but.

[Oscar]

Oh, was she. She's in the show Girls on HBO with Lena Dunham. Remember that show? I feel like that was before, like, Oh, I know when it was on, you were not in a. I will tell you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did see Girls, and I did not like that show.

[Oscar]

That's what I was gonna think, y. Well, that makes sense. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Girls was crazy.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But anyway, her sister was in that, and I don't know, there's the meme of her. You know, people say, like, what the hell? Sure. Like, people.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I never heard that one. But that's her.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she does. Like, she did an Instagram Q A where someone. I forgot the context of the question was. But she was very, like, nonchalant. There's two memes. There was like, someone asked her for advice about, like, being embarrassed when you do things in public, and she said her reply was, I think you guys think about yourselves too much. And the other one, someone asked her if she would ever do something. She's like, what the hell? Sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, just like, an interview. It wasn't from the show.

[Oscar]

No, it was like an Instagram Q A. Like, she just responded with a selfie and wrote, what the hell? Sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jemima. What's her last name?

[Oscar]

Kirk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jemima Kirk.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyway, I've never met anyone named Jemima. I mean, not to be like, the syrup. The syrup, But.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Formerly known as Angemima. It's no longer Aunt Jemima.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she's. Hers is spelled J E M I M A. She's from British. British.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's British with a syrup. Oh, she was named after that.

[Oscar]

Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never heard Jemima except for the syrup.

[Oscar]

I Honestly, either. But I also have never known a domino, so their mom was just.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They just love food. Domino's Jemima, syrup, maybe. I love that Domino, I'm not gonna lie, is such a good name. We were sponsored. Remy Ashley got sponsored yet again. I counted 10 on her TikTok. This better be the end of that deal. She better had a 10 TikTok deal because, like, what the hell? 10 Domino's sponsored TikToks. I've heard he's eating pizza.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I couldn't be more jealous of anyone. Oh, my God. I know. We need to stop mentioning Domino's. Everyone's like, don't give them free promotion. Though. Jimmy did say he talked to our ad people and was like, okay. He cut out clips of every time we said Domino's. If they want to go get us.

[Oscar]

A diamond, put, like, a sizzle reel together or something. That's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're probably like, no, she gives it to us free. Why would we pay?

[Oscar]

I'm thinking, too. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. We're gonna stop starting now. No more dominoes. That sounds great, though.

[Oscar]

That is a great transition into some Pizza Hut News.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, pizza sounds so good, too.

[Oscar]

Oh, well, it went viral because they were one of the. There's a Pizza Hut in Toronto, Canada. Did you have Pizza Hut when you were in.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Oh, I didn't know. Why is it good there?

[Oscar]

Well, they were keeping pizza supplies in the bathroom, and they went viral because they were using the bathroom as a storage for, like, the boxes. The pizza boxes and everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what's the problem?

[Oscar]

I think there was.

[Moses]

What do you mean, what's the problem?

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened?

[Moses]

Like, a restaurant gets a B rating if you have to walk through the kitchen to get to the bathroom Here, the food is in the bathroom in the boxes.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not the food.

[Oscar]

But where do you think that they're putting the pizzas?

[Trisha Paytas]

After they're ready, they take the boxes to the oven. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't get it. They're splashing it with pee or what? I guess if someone's messy, but I don't think they're, like, pooping in the boxes or anything.

[Oscar]

What you don't think is crazy. Kitchen supplies being. And it was pizza supplies. Kitchen supplies. Pizza boxes and dip containers were being stored in boxes right next to the toilets. You think that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like it's fine. I mean, how close are the toilets? Are they being stacked right up there when you're squatting or what?

[Oscar]

It's pretty close.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's fine. Everyone needs to chill. It's cleaning supplies and pizza boxes. Not, like, the cheese and pepperoni back there. Give me a Pizza Hut. Give me that all day long. I do love a Pizza Hut. Breadsticks over Domino's. So I would. I would take it. They're so good.

[Oscar]

I'm dead. They.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, what do you think?

[Oscar]

I think it's pretty gross.

[Moses]

You won't even sit on the seat in the toilet. Why would you eat from a boxer?

[Trisha Paytas]

That was my whole discussion twice now on Hot Topics is like. Like, I don't think a bare butt is an issue on a toilet. I did it. I did it at the Delta one. I sat bare butt on a public toilet. And like, your teacher said, like, there's no. There's no holes to get in. There's no equal.

[Oscar]

That is the thing that you remember. There's so much that you forget. But that made me feel better.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, you know what? You're right. There's no orifice to get in through there if your bare skin is on the thing. So I. I. Yeah, I don't See anything wrong with it?

[Oscar]

I. I think it's kind of gross. But also because, like, even it could be like in the air still, like all the germs and stuff.

[Moses]

Yeah. You know how they have the hand dryers, like the one that blow air?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, but you just wash your hands.

[Moses]

No, but they found out that, you know, that makes it even worse. Like the whole room, all the bacteria is just flying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will say I do prefer a paper towel over a hand dryer.

[Oscar]

I know. Sorry to the environment, but it's the. I think. Yeah. They did a study. They showed like how much your. Your hands get dirtier after using a hand dryer. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what do you do in those situations with only a hand dryer?

[Oscar]

I just use my hand. My. Like, I'd rather have that than get my hands all.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you open the door?

[Oscar]

I usually will do like a pinky or something at the handle. But I like when they also. They have the ones where you can open it with their foot. I think those are fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

They need to do more of those. That is crazy to have to open up a door after you just like wash your hands.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yes. And I was at the gym too. I've seen people use the hand dryers for every body part. You can imagine. And they do in the airport.

[Moses]

I see that too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Penises. That's what you said.

[Moses]

Everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Moses]

Like people take little showers in the sinks and then they dry themselves.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? Why are they showering in the sink?

[Moses]

People fly from all over the world. They have different ideas of this water.

[Trisha Paytas]

The airport sounds not hygienic because they have them in like first class lounges, like showers. And I still like. And I see people go in there. I'm like, I don't know why.

[Moses]

I don't think they flew first class.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I get that, but I'm also still like, why even. Even first class, I wouldn't be like, let me go in that shower.

[Moses]

Right. So definitely don't have a pizza box in there.

[Oscar]

T. I was shocked that you are. You're probably be the freaking manager being like, yeah, someone coming up being like, like, hey, Trisha, where do we put these extra boxes? I don't know. The bathroom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they need to hire an organizer to tell us where to put it because where are we supposed to go with these boxes in the overflow? It's kind of wild.

[Oscar]

Well, it went viral. It got like a million views on TikTok. And then public Health and Pizza Hut were contacted and they have since removed the pizza boxes from this Toronto Pizza Hut. So wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they agreed, I guess with you guys, they were like, get that out of here. Here's a different question. Kind of related, but not speaking of organizers. We have a team of organizers coming. Four people coming a day. They said they could get it done. Two weeks, our entire house. Expensive. So expensive. Because there was one that was a little cheaper, but it was like one person and she could come like a day, a week. Then there was like a bougie team that comes in with like four people and they're like hitting it on the head. Like, we can get this done in 10 days. Your whole house, garage to everything. Okay. Like, do you think I shouldn't even talk about the organization? I should talk about something else. But like in general, like, right, you pay full price for a service and do you think they should be able to like use it for social media? Not talking about the organizers. They didn't even ask. But I was just thinking about this because people ask me like, who did you get? Who did you get? And I was like, God, I would love to post it. But like, do you think if you pay full price or something, let me use something different? Let me not use organizers. Like let's say I went to a hair salon and oh so expensive. My hair salon's like twelve hundred dollars. But then they use it to promote their business. That's okay.

[Oscar]

I feel like usually if it's used, I guess it's tough because I feel like even normal customers, like non influencer customers, like if like a company will even use them sometimes for like social media or whatever. Like they like med spas or whatever. There's like, like when I went for Botox, there's like a thing that checks if you will allow them to use like your before and afters for them to use for like promotion or whatever. So I don't know, I'm kind of split on it. I would think like, oh, if I'm paying full price and like, you know, I don't, I guess it's different. Like I like you wouldn't post, but if they can post because you're just like a customer and they're, if they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Post other customers but like in my, like you know, in my space.

[Moses]

But, but this, this is what you do for work. So I think it is different. Like when this is what you do for work.

[Trisha Paytas]

All I know is like different. And not just this organization, all the organizers, they show before and afters of people's like closets and stuff like that. And I was just like, I don't know if I want to show my before, you know? And again, this company has, like, never been, like, let's work out a deal, nothing. So they probably don't care. But I see them post, I'm like, okay, but can they just post, like, my house looking crazy before, like, my garage is like a hoarder's thing?

[Moses]

No, it's only.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they do they show that. They'll show, like, a cr. Yes. Like, worse than ours of just, like, boxes.

[Moses]

So they. They agreed. So they. They agreed for them to show that, you think?

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Moses]

Yeah. You can't show somebody's house without their consent.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but. Well, we can bleep which company this was, but I just feel like if that's the case, like, give me a discount.

[Moses]

Don't be the way they're supposed to. Always stay anonymous.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's like, I'm blessed. Came by the other day on my FYP and I was like, interesting.

[Moses]

Yeah, actually. So it's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did. Oh, okay. I guess I'm bigger than I thought. I don't know if you're a normal person. Let us know, too, because even when we go get our ultrasounds and stuff like that, too, they're like, you know, permission to use your photo. I was like, no. What? Like, that's crazy.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why would somebody want to get permission to use, like, a sonogram? You know what I mean? Like, why would you want that out there? I don't know who would be like, yeah, use me as an example. I think everyone should get a discount. Even if you're not an influencer, if they're going to use you for, like, promotional material.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's a past surgery office. I think it's Dr. Barrett. They're like, hey, we'll do. We'll do trade straight up. And I'm about to. If I get my boobs in lipo, I'm about to. I like that better than just. But then you have people, like, cinnamon roll people over here. They're so sweet. They're like, can we repost that video? I was like, yeah. I mean, you give me free cinnamon rolls. Of course you can. You know what I mean? But. And I will do stuff for free cinnamon rolls. I would do that. Like, nothing. You know, like, my cost is low. But it's so funny. They were even polite to be like, repost this. I was like, yeah, obviously. I guess.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Consent first before consent over everything. Yeah.

[Moses]

Because there. There are a lot of companies that will basically abuse the relationship. I Remember I saw it with Bethany Frankel, actually, like, so sometimes companies will use your videos and your stuff to promote their product when you're actually not even happy with the product, you know, so people do abuse that.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean? When you're not happy with the. Oh, really?

[Moses]

Imagine like you had something and you didn't even like it that much, but suddenly you're the face of the product. You know, that's so funny because on the other hand, you promote all the time. Everything that you just like, you just show living life. You know, I ate in and out. I drank this. I like Pepsi. Whatever. Things happen. It's just life, you know? So you do that, but it's your choice. But when somebody else does it for you, it's a completely different story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Probably not relatable, but let us know what you think because I don't know. I was thinking about that also. Yeah. People that are like, it's more personal sometimes they want to know, like, what you're using, your space, all that stuff.

[Oscar]

But Olivia o' Brien. Oh, what Called out Logan, Paul, or kind of exposed him a little bit, which I thought was funny. It was. She commented on that video that we talked about previously, the clip of Impulsive about Nina and Logan talking about their baby's nursery and how Logan told Nina he doesn't care what the nursery looks like because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Paul American.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. What did I call it? Whatever. Paul pun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I love that.

[Oscar]

So she commented on that clip on Tick Tock. And she said because they dated. What year did they even date?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like pre 2019.

[Oscar]

Yeah, 2018, maybe after Toddy, I think, or before Tawny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember when she went on Impulsive and that was like, when I went on. So it was like probably 2019. So maybe like so around there. Yeah.

[Oscar]

But she said that Logan once told me he wanted to have a kid because he loves himself so much. He thought he could only love someone else fully if it was half of him. Like it was a science experiment with a heart ice emoji.

[Trisha Paytas]

She commented it.

[Oscar]

Yeah. On the tick tock of him being weird about his baby's nursery.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's why he was pissed it was a girl. I mean, he said multiple times that he was, like, annoyed that it was a girl and like, I guess he just didn't care. That's the worst. Oh, my God. If you're having a baby so you could just, like, love you, it's because.

[Oscar]

Like, you love yourself so much that you could only love someone because it's half of you are a mini version of you is like so narcissistic. But does track for Logan Paul because I don't think he is very aware of other people in the world's experiences. I think he only is aware of. Of the Logan Paul experience.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. On one hand, the self love is good that you love for true. You love yourself so much if you can't love yourself.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he loves himself first. We love that. Yeah. Then the trickling down the baby. That poor baby. What if it's like, doesn't look like him or act like him and a.

[Oscar]

Lot of the same interest.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he's gonna be then. I think that's what happens with parents and they like kind of resent their childhood. They like don't like look or resemble them.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It makes me a little worried.

[Trisha Paytas]

That whole show was definitely a big red flag. Him just the whole time being like so over the baby. I remember he like literally said like, I don't. I can't believe I'm having a baby. I'm like, well, well, leave it because it's coming. He was very. Did you see the clip of him talking to her about how he's going into optimistic? He's like, I don't think it's gonna be as bad as we think it's gonna be.

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, I didn't think. Don't say that. Like it's my experience. He's like, no, I'm just trying to be optimistic. Like, like, oh. And then she tries to clarify. He's like, no, for me it's not going to be as bad as we think it's going to be. And she's like, okay. Like he's just so. I would say dumb, but I guess he's smart in some areas. But there's some areas where he's just so unbelievably, like ignorant. And you're just like, that's. It's just crazy to put on a reality show because there's so many people where you're like, oh my God, I can't believe this person's going to be like a parent. Like that's a good example of it. Like you're worried about yourself during childbirth. Birth. The person not giving birth.

[Oscar]

Is this baby born yet?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the baby's here.

[Oscar]

Okay. Cuz. Oh, yes. Cuz in the delivery room is. He was promoting the feast or. Yeah, okay, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you know. Or lunch lease since the baby, he seems to be saying great things like this is everything and love her so much.

[Moses]

The Way he said it. Let me see if this is the one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be easier than we think for me. I definitely don't think you should. Should say that.

[Oscar]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's going to be easier than we think for me. I feel like I want to be.

[Oscar]

Able to keep you calm and apply the pressure and do the techniques pretty well.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you're underestimating the, like, gravity of what labor could feel like and be like, I don't think it's going to be easier than we think. I'm trying to have, like, a positive outlook on it.

[Oscar]

But please don't misconstrue that as me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Saying it's going to be easy. Guess we'll find out.

[Moses]

She's like, she's over.

[Oscar]

Please don't misconstrue me saying when you said it's going to be easy. I cannot. If there is an epidemic of men gaslighting us all and you, like, I don't even want to get into the full l. I will get into the full list. Ddg Aiden, Ross, Logan, Paul. There is a list of men that are trying to gaslight us all. And they say they completely contradict themselves, but then try to make a scene that you. No, you said it. You. You said it. You is going to be easy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy.

[Oscar]

Don't misconstrue. I can't. I'm losing my.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the craziest thing. And he kept reiterating for me.

[Moses]

I'm like, whoever thought it was be going to be hard for you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What? And to keep you calm and to apply pressure technique. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, don't say that. I think you're, like, not thinking fully.

[Moses]

Like, before the birth and the first one, like, all I could think was about you and what you're going to like. Like, I never thought about, like, it's gonna be hard for me. It's gonna be easy for me. I was like, no, see, it's just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think about you all the time. And it's like the one situation where you, like, never think about the other person. Like, well, because you have to think about so many things, including surviving the birth. Like, that's like the biggest thing. Like, how are you thinking? Like, for you, like, it's something that's such a high risk. It's like the only thing in life that you put go trauma to where you, like, could potentially die knowing going in. But you do it because it's like, Part that's, like, life and what you're doing and what you're risking. So to have your partner be like, it could be easier than a thing of, like, it could be a lot worse than you think, too. So I don't know. I think it's. I think if she was the one saying it, like, I'm trying to keep positive. Of course. That's a beautiful thing. If Moses was saying that it's gonna be easy, I'd be like, don't even. That'd be so annoyed for me. I can't even imagine. I guess they showed the birth. I haven't seen it.

[Moses]

I can't imagine knowing how little we do. Like, we really don't do much. Like, the most. Even in the hardest parts were, like, me just telling you to push every 10. Like, counting.

[Trisha Paytas]

You weren't by yourself telling me to push the nurse.

[Moses]

Like, at some point, they left us while she was pushing. And I'm, like, holding her legs. I'm, like, counting push and all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember I was like, is the hole big? I thought my. I thought it was gaping. I thought it was gonna open up really big because I was 10 centimeters. He's like, I don't think I can see it.

[Moses]

Well, the head. We're trying to see the head.

[Trisha Paytas]

They left us. When I was pushing in active labor.

[Oscar]

They literally left us.

[Moses]

It was kind of insane, understand, because it was like three different nurses exchanged in that time, so nobody really kept up with what's going on until the last one that was the most experienced came as like, oh, no, you need to go to surgery right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, I've been here three hours pushing. They're like, what? So that was good. Anyways. I couldn't imagine. Hopefully he was fine. Having Logan Paul in there would stress me out. Oh, my God. I'd be like, leave. Like, get my mom in here or.

[Oscar]

Something like that is crazy. And also him doing the little antics with snapping and the.

[Moses]

The.

[Oscar]

The lunch or what do they call the. What the hell?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I couldn't. I could not. Oh, my God. Are the ones that, like, sleep or go get pizza or whatever they do. Like, I love Moses. Perfect. Just quiet. I just need, like, everyone to be quiet and, like, not talk to me. So I couldn't even imagine someone, like, just.

[Oscar]

And I know vlogging. They. Shane and the therapist that he collaborated with, they came recently saying they didn't really believe Jake Paul was a sociopath path. When they did that little documentary, you know, they did say that. Yeah. And that in that thing that they said or that new podcast they did together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so they retracted because wasn't his whole thing like, Jake Paul's a sociopath?

[Oscar]

Yes. And they were like every. What they were saying in that new podcast, like, everyone was saying it. They didn't know if they fully believed it. But that was titled that because that was like the rhetoric going around that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seems a little harmful if you don't believe that to use that as a title anyway. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

My point was maybe they got got the wrong Paul because Logan really does seem to, like, lack empathy. And.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I don't even know if he.

[Oscar]

Can, like, I control it. I know he recently discovered, like, women go through stuff and misogyny exists and stuff, but it just seems like he cannot think about anyone's perspective besides Logan's. Like, really? He can't even think about his fiance's perspective of where she gives birth?

[Trisha Paytas]

So wild.

[Oscar]

It is very weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

How awful. I mean, it's just like. I know there's probably like a connection. There's like a different side you don't see, but just what we do see and what she choose to put on tv because even him being, like, woke or whatever, it's still. It still is like, way, like this person is like. Like you said, like, zero empathy. Zero. Like putting. Yeah. Like, it's such a bizarre. It's sad. It's just sad. And I think that's what everyone feels. Then you see in juxtaposition, like, Jake Paul with Jetta. And it's like, wow. They're like, wait, this makes me like Jake Paul because he's like, really, like, sweet and he, like, is filming her rehearsing and he's like, really involved in her life and he's like, you know, waiting for her to accomplish her dreams before they have a baby and all this stuff like that. So it's. It is very odd. I. And we talked about it before in Nina interview after. After she's had the baby. When Jake and Jenna got engaged, like, what advice would you give them? Jake, wait to have kids, you know, and it's like. And it's just sad because when you realize your partner your is not helping you through it. Oh, like, that's. That's tough. You could have the nannies, the. The mom's everything. But if, like, the other parent isn't involved, it's, like, devastating.

[Moses]

Can you imagine the videos of Logan after the birth be like, I did so good. I did amazing. I did that. Look at him. And he's holding the baby. He's like, I did this. The baby's here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean, hopefully after, I was, like, excited and proud, but I don't know. It's kind of.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure there is a side to him we don't see. He's friends with Tana. Tana says, you know, that's true. She's nice to her and gives her advice and stuff. So I'm sure there is parts of him we just.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you're not having a baby with him, and it's crazy. And Nina is like, oh, my. I. I don't know. Yeah, it's.

[Moses]

I think it's a learn. It's a learning curve for him. I think this is all new for him. The idea of being there for somebody else, having a partner.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's scary.

[Moses]

Partner.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like having a child right away when it's, like, new to you to care about someone else. Like, you're just learning to care about someone. Someone else, and you're having a baby.

[Moses]

What was it by choice? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean. I mean, I don't know. Like, I don't know if they planned it because she.

[Moses]

They did say kind of like, to the other.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he's smart enough to know because obviously he hasn't had a baby before. You know what I mean? There's lots of guys that just have these babies and act like, what is happening?

[Moses]

Like, I don't know, but I feel like there. I think he's coming with good intentions. He's just so behind. He's so, like, with the stuff he's talking about, like, I was probably 12, 13 when I started realizing, you know what I mean? Like, he's so behind in. In understanding women.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hopefully he's adjusted to being a girl dad.

[Moses]

He'll be fast.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should do ivf. If he wants a boy, they should just, like. That's why I always think to anyone who wants, like, a specific gender, like, just do ivf. You can choose the gender and then you know for sure you're getting a.

[Moses]

Boy and let life give you what it thinks you should have.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's anything wrong with that. I think if you want to pick a gender, pick a gender. But it's like, yeah. To leave it by choice and get mad if you're having a girl and was wild.

[Oscar]

I wonder if he believes in ivf, like, genuinely.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean, believe in it?

[Oscar]

He's so, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because he. Christian. I don't know. I don't know.

[Oscar]

He's just very conservative and I feel like he's like, I've. Again, this is just me. Based off everything else I know about Logan. Paul, I feel like you're not gonna stick something in her and get her pregnant. I am. You know, that's kind of the vibe he gives me.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, there is an anti IVF movement out there.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Or maybe it's confident confidence. Like, it will be like, no, I can do it. I can deliver a boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you can be sad if you have six girls and no boy. You're like, oh, my gosh.

[Oscar]

I mean. And that's just me speculating, you know, fully.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he doesn't seem like someone who believes in science necessarily.

[Oscar]

Yes, Very. That. Yeah.

[Moses]

I think the best thing that can happen to him is have a baby girl.

[Oscar]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Maybe he'll be a great girl. Dad. Yeah. Oh, my God. If he was like. Because look at them. They were two brothers with their dad, and the dad was awful to them, and then they became awful to the world.

[Moses]

And I. I still have high hopes for him. I think he has good intentions. He just needs to.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't have my hopes. I. I don't think there's high hopes. I just hope he's okay for the. I think they just need to not renew that show. They just need it the last we know.

[Oscar]

Yeah, probably better.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so, too. Just live life offline. Yeah.

[Moses]

Not gonna happen with this guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

That's all they have.

[Trisha Paytas]

When I saw that. I know you mentioned Aiden Ross earlier. Like, Aiden Ross, the DDG thing. They have those dumb hats on, like, he had on during this thing. I'm like, what is with these guys wearing these stupid hats all the time and saying stupid things.

[Oscar]

Stupid things. But with so much confidence. And then being just factually incorrect, too, is the crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I. I don't want to get in this world because I'm scared of, like, the Aiden Rossinators and stuff like that. But it's like, it is streaming in general. We've said this so many times. Like, why are we doing this? Like, streaming is crazy. Like, streaming in real life. Streaming as things happen. Like, like. And then he has to kind of be like, come over here. Come over here. Don't even give it to. It's like, just shut off the stream. Like, what are we doing? Why are we streaming this? Why are we. Oh, my God. It's just, like, so wild.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stop streaming. I think I just don't get the appeal of it at all.

[Oscar]

But shout out Callie, who's probably Streaming.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she's. That's true. That's true. Shout out to the streamers who just stay in their house.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the IRL streamers are the ones that. That because they were like, in some store. They were shopping. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And even if you go into it with good intentions, IRL streaming. I think there was another IRL streamer who got punched midstream in. In France or something, so it's scary. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Be careful out there. Oh, my gosh.

[Oscar]

Well, I feel like we have to end with Austin McBroom's update after Katherine's book leaked. That whole thing's kind of weird. I don't even know if the pages were real at first, the. The pages of Catherine's book, but probably like, for.

[Trisha Paytas]

It doesn't. There's not a doubt in my mind. It's like, to promote the book. Like, you know, I'm sure, like, press the publisher or something. Yeah. Got out there.

[Oscar]

Obviously she wasn't even know she was writing the book. It just came out of nowhere. So I was like, wait, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

But that part. I know. I think he's the only one who can make Logan Paul look. You know what? We love Logan Paul. Team Logan again. Okay. You know what? He's there for her. He's. He's trying to.

[Oscar]

Because he released a lengthy public statement. 40 minutes. Was it maybe a snap.

[Trisha Paytas]

Snapchat. 40 minute snap.

[Moses]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm invested. I was invested. I'm like, let me. How do I get on Snap Moses, Give me your snap. I'm trying to figure out how to.

[Moses]

Watch this for 40 minutes.

[Oscar]

He was going. And there was those ad breaks in between, too. It was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Monetizing it too, on top of that. Yes. So no one can even come for Katherine monetizing a book because it's like he also is monetizing this.

[Oscar]

Everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

This is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is like her story. You're also just being unhinged.

[Oscar]

It was a wild response. He did say he felt blindsided by the book's content, which had the claims of infidelity and betrayal. He said, I never wanted to talk about this, but. And to protect the most important people in my life, which is the mother of my kids and my kids. I also love that. He said he was shocked that someone is writing an autobiography and talking about someone else in the book, which is funny. He said, like, yeah, when people write an autobiography, they usually begin with, hello, my name is not okay. Okay. I was like, how do you write a book? Have you ever read an autobiography?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's how every biography starts. I was like, hello, my name is Prince Harry. Hello, I'm Britney Spears. He watched, like, True Life. He's like, that's it.

[Oscar]

I was gagged. I was like, what the hell is going on here?

[Moses]

Because he was suggesting, like, that she's selling the book. Like, the only reason it will sell is because she talks about him.

[Oscar]

Yes, exactly.

[Moses]

She mentioned you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like her life that you were involved in for 10 years.

[Oscar]

And it is, like, probably the part of. Of her past that has affected her the most for better and worse. Like, obviously you gave her kids, but also you. Oh, you better through the ringer.

[Trisha Paytas]

So write a book. Write a movie. Like, I'll never stop talking about it, ever. Yeah, like, that's. And this is her first time talking about it. But he also said that he was going to talk about it at one point. He was going to come out and Catherine told him not to.

[Oscar]

Yes, he said that he made video back in January, so right when they were announcing their breakup. And in this video that he recorded and edited, I guess he was going to confess his, like, infidelity and that he cheated and stuff. But he recorded a conversation with Catherine. And I don't know if it was, like, if Catherine knew she was being recorded or not is my guess, because anyway, he recorded this conversation and he ran the video past her and she told him to not post it because it would. He would end up getting dragged because of him confessing to cheating and stuff in. In the video.

[Trisha Paytas]

My theory, and I don't. This is not a bad theory against her, is I would also say that if I knew I had a book coming out, I'd be like, no, no, don't.

[Oscar]

Leave it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, leave that for me, babe. You know what I mean? Like, and I love her for that, too, because he is so dumb. So he's probably like, wow, thanks, Catherine, for looking out. But she's so smart. She's like, no, no, no, you're gonna get dragged. Let me drag you and have people, whatever. And as she should, because says the one who should monetize and profit off being cheated on is the victim. Is the one that was being cheated on is like, you're gonna do that to me? At least let me, like, get my bag off of it. You know what I mean? Because that's, like, the very least of it all. Yes.

[Oscar]

And then in this big rant, too, he justified his cheating because he said that he wasn't having sex with Catherine for, like, a year. And at one point, he went up to her and expressed his needs. Needs. And she said, whatever you do, just do not embarrass me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which he's like, well, what? Do you interpret that?

[Oscar]

Yeah, to me, I interpret it as, I can do whatever I want, just don't tell me about it. Like, which is leaps and bows from what I think she's saying, don't embarrass her. And he took it as, oh, I can go cheat as long as I. It doesn't come out. Which also, it did come out that you cheated. Saw that you were cheating. I'm sorry, Tanner needs to clock in. I know. She is, like, living her best life abroad across the pond. T, we need you to clock in for this tea. Oh, my God. But she's gonna clock in too late. You know, it'll be canceled in a month.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not Loveline.

[Oscar]

Check it out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because she will. Because she's very open about it. Because after she told the story about when her and Jake were together and they found a lipstick in the car, and him and Catherine called Jake and Tana and they're like, tana, is this your lipstick? And she's like, I was trying to save the kids. So I was like, yeah, it's my lipstick. But like, no, it wasn't my lipstick, Katherine. Because it's been obviously rumors forever that they were. Was like, cheating. Like, obviously Austin's brother. Like, all these people have talked about it. So I guess Katherine didn't like, want it out originally, but I mean, yeah, the. The cheating of it all.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's just so odd, the mental gymnastics, like, justify everything that he has done.

[Trisha Paytas]

The. The just like also the narcissism and how many people. I was so surprised because I was reading the comments and how many people are on his side.

[Oscar]

Literally, it's whoever is the last one to speak because then if Catherine makes a response, everyone will switch or the book will come out. Everyone will switch. It's the last person to speak. Get. And also it's like this epidemic of showing receipts with like, not the full context to support your thesis statement. It's like, well, yes, you have a 10 second clip that's going to support what you want to say, because that is what you're trying to do. You know that like a clip or anything can be argued anyway, to justify.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cheating is so crazy though.

[Oscar]

That's so funny. No, not cheating. Stepping out of my marriage. I love that he kept saying that instead of, I cheated, I stepped out of my marriage. No, you cheated. Just say what it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Multiple times. Multiple women she finds out when she's pregnant. She gives birth to the baby boy, their third baby. Just disgusted. You could just tell she's so irritated. He's vlogging and it's probably like a 10 minute clip of them just giving birth to this baby boy way Catherine does not look at him one single time in the 10 minutes. She is just like over it. You can just tell she is irritated. Like, I didn't know that feeling when you're so over someone and just like the sight of them makes your skin crawl. You're like, please go away. And he's like, dada's here, daddy. And she's just like not looking, not smiling. I felt so bad for her in that moment. But also like him, like he was. You're a cheater. You stepped out of the marriage. You stepped out on your like children. Like, you know what I mean? Like, if you're so. If you need sex that bad that it's like a year drought is like, like, well, I'm leaving this marriage. I need, I need it, whatever. Then it's like, that's on you. But like divorce, like, do something else. Like, that's wild. Interpret it as don't embarrass me. To me, I'd be like, go watch whatever you have to do, Go. Yeah, go goon, goon. All day. Goon, camel. You know what I mean? Like, do whatever. But the don't, like specifically the don't embarrass me part, as I always say, I think the embarrassment, it's more, it's more embarrassing than like hurtful. Like if some, if you cheat, like, like someone cheats. It's more the, the embarrassment that you like created this perfect family life and all this stuff like that. So it's like if you were to divorce and be like, we went our separate ways, whatever, go do your thing. But you're doing it while in the marriage and everyone's talking about it. Her sister in law and Tana and all these people are talking about it. It just makes her look stupid, you know what I mean? Even though it shouldn't. Whatever, it's like his fault. But her staying in it makes her look some type of way, which is the embarrassing part. So I was like, just don't be in the marriage. Just like leave the marriage. And do you need sex that bad? Like a year. I don't know what she was going through that year. I don't know, whatever. Maybe she was dealing with stuff. Maybe she wasn't like attraction for a year. Like, you can work I mean, she.

[Moses]

Was pregnant, so they had sex at some point.

[Oscar]

True.

[Moses]

For the pregnancy. So that after that. After that, it makes sense if she was pregnant and didn't feel like it. If something happened before. Like something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So it's just odd.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not like that is odd. That's a good point because, okay, Legally Blonde over there. Because it is so true. Because how did they. How did she get pregnant if you were having sex for a year? Because then she said she found out when she got. Was pregnant. So I was like, well, what the hell? Your dad said sex within the past three months. That is so tea. Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

He clocked that. Yeah, true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, weird.

[Oscar]

So weird. And then using, like, Austin used clips of Catherine at certain points calling him her soulmate and her life partner. And it's like, she's on camera. Yes. Also.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

It's like, obviously when you're out of a relationship and then you can look back at it and be like, damn, I really was just, like, in. So in it that I couldn't see what was going on clearly. And now that I step outside and have, like, reflected, I look at it differently for some reason. Another one who lacks, like, any empathy or, like, any common sense or perspective. It's like, as you grow and as you age and as you gain more life experience, you can look at your past life experience with different eyes and different perspectives and be like, oh, this was actually messed up, what I went through, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she was like, in this marriage from, like, a young age and in the fame of it all. And so, like, you don't really grasp it until you're out of it. It's. I hate that excuse of, like, well, why would she stay if it was so bad? Why would this. It's like, have we learned nothing? I mean, we see that with so many women now. It's like the Cassie, the everything, it's just like. Like they're in this. Like, they're in this bubble. They're in this thing. They don't. They don't see it. They're not seeing clearly or they do and they don't know how to get out of it. And it's like their business is tied together. Their. Their house was being foreclosed on. Like, everything is, like, such a unit. It's like, how do you even deal with it? Like, the stress of it all, everything like that. And then on top of that, you have this, like, loser husband that, like, just is, like, cheating on you and is, like, thinking he's the star of The Ace family, which is like, family is the star. Your kids are the star. Like, I mean, she put up with, like, a lot. A lot. It's actually so insane. Yeah. The blaming. Oh, I hate that. I hate that you shifted this. But he's the victim. Like, so crazy.

[Oscar]

That's what I'm saying. It's like an epidemic, though. All these terrible men that do the mental gymnastics to make themselves the victims. I'm like, wait. But no, that's not how this works at all, actually. It's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And people see it. They're like, oh, I knew it. Catherine's a little delusional. I knew this. I was like, that's.

[Oscar]

And then it'd be like, oh, I was just so, like, concerned for my kids right now. Were you concerned when you were cosplaying as poor and doing a lemonade stand outside of the Topanga Mall and living in a trailer and act, like, pretending to be, like, mentally unwell so you could make a bag off of Snapchat off of your making a whole circus?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah.

[Oscar]

How are you all of a sudden now going to be like, oh, I'm just concerned and worried for our kids. Like, I can't believe my kids have to see this one day. You've already put your kids through a lot of embarrassment that they have to look back and see, oh, my God, my dad was acting a fool just so he can make millions of dollars off Snap. It's not even like he was broke. He was just trying to get richer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. And you started the embarrassment when you cheated. Like, that's the embarrassment. That is the embarrassment. You have a family life, a family channel. I love my wife, I love my kids. And you cheated. Like, you started the embarrassment. The. Right there is the first thing. Like, that. That's so embarrassing. That'll always be the most embarrassing. You done. Beyond the clownery of it all. Like, that is the most embarrassing thing. And so, yeah, when people say that, it is like, the Joel Goldberg effect. Like, oh, my kids. I care about my kids. Well, don't be having sex with Bronte upstairs in your apartment. You know what I mean? Like, that's crazy. That's just so w. I hate that excuse. If you're a cheater, you don't care about your kids, period. If you want to be out of a relationship, fine. If you're a cheater, you don't care about your kids. You know what I mean? Like, it's just crazy. I.

[Oscar]

And then him trying to look like Catherine was cheating because she went, like, On a spiritual journey. And then he showed these receipts. He's like, I stumbled upon messages between Catherine talking to someone else who she says she met on a spiritual retreat. Let me show you the messages. And I'm like, yeah, it's going to be something really special, sexy. And it's just like, showing photos of auras. It's like, different photos of auras. And he's like, what do you guys think this means?

[Trisha Paytas]

What is this? Language.

[Oscar]

Language. I'm like, man who just discovered, like, spiritual.

[Moses]

He thinks it's a fetish.

[Oscar]

It's like, oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was so. It was like a sex tape on his phone. He was like, what is this?

[Oscar]

He thought it was the smoking gun. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is like. And you can tell he's so serious. She's like, what's this?

[Moses]

Like, that's her trying to heal from what she's been through.

[Trisha Paytas]

That part. That part everywhere. It's just like her healing journey is like, I don't know how I would come back from that. Like, my husband's g. I mean, we have three kids. Little kids at that. You just had a baby. Your whole, like, life is based on you being a happy couple. You can't even tell your mom. You're so, like, what do you do? Like, you have to have some sort of healing, some sort of spirituality. Honestly, I'm with her. I'd also be like, I'm also the Virgin Mary. Don't come near me with that penis. You know what I mean? Like, I feel her in so many ways. Days. I'm glad she found some spirituality. Otherwise, she probably. Probably in the cuckoo bin or something like that, because that would send me. That I'd be back in a mental hospital for sure. That would send me. So I'm glad she found some sort of guidance.

[Moses]

You know, when Dr. Drew was here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And you asked him about his marriage and all that and stuff like that. And he said that because you asked him, like, did ever. Anything happen ever outside of the marriage or stuff like that? He's like, no. Anything that I would do. Do outside of my marriage will be a direct attack on my kids and wife.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, that's the way to see it. Like, you're actually actively harming your kids and your wife. He said, an attack on my kids and wife. I was like, wow, that's the best way to say it, because that's why I never. When I look at somebody like that, doing that. When you have kids, it's. It's. You're. You're never the Victim?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, never. So her friends. Because then it became this whole. Then it's like the whole ayahuasca thing. Then he starts being like, we're in a good place, but also trying to take full custody of my kids.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is happening? Like, what is going on? The boyfriend did respond.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it's not always the greatest. Yeah. I'd be like, this is what I tell. We. I think we talked about this before. When, like, a partner tries to, like, step in to defend you, I will always tell Moses or anyone, my sister, anyone. I'm like, please don't. Like, you know, it's just better when it comes from like, like the direct. When a boyfriend steps in, he could be amazing, he could be wonderful for sure. But like, it just never is. Like, it's not hitting the spots we need to hit. Because I was like, well, we don't want to hear from you. We need to hear from Catherine.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because Austin alleged that Catherine is. Was doing like ayahuasca in the house and there was kids in the vicinity. He alleged that there was a 12 year old kid also doing ayahuasca with Catherine and like this group of people. And then Catherine's current boyfriend released a statement saying it was not a 12 year old, it was a 17 year old. And I'm like, I don't know if that's. I don't know. Oh, that's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, we didn't need a clarification.

[Oscar]

You are losing me here a little bit. I'll give it to Austin. Yeah, he ate with that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I know. I was like, what? He's like, actually, he was 17.

[Oscar]

I was like, oh, when the worst person, you know, makes a good point.

[Trisha Paytas]

It'S like, okay, well, I know. I was like, wish they wouldn't have done that. Because it's like we didn't know the contacts. We didn't know the ayahuasca parties. Are you familiar with ayahuasca?

[Oscar]

Only because I think Chelsea Handler had like a nephew Netflix documentary or something where she like, did different drugs as like a journey of self exploration. And she did ayahuasca in Peru.

[Trisha Paytas]

She liked it.

[Oscar]

She did get kind of sick. Like, it did seem intense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like when she throw up.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she threw up.

[Moses]

That's the point. First of all, there's no ayahuasca parties. It's not a party.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it looked like there was.

[Moses]

There was a big group of people, maybe a gathering. But there's no. There's no party because. Because you take some, you drink something that is like a muffin mud. Basically. That's what it tastes like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ayahuasca expert over here.

[Moses]

And then it makes you.

[Trisha Paytas]

You've done it.

[Moses]

It makes you sick. Like, it. It says it's a spiritual journey. Like, you are going in your mind through existential things and whatever, and each person has a different journey. But let's say if there's something toxic in your life, like, you think about it, you feel it, and it materializes into something that you end up vomiting out of your body. So it's almost like cleansing. So there's a lot of vomiting and purging of different ways. And it's hours of that. There's no oh my God, there's no parties. There's no and you on your own.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's not like no one guides you through it. You're just drinking.

[Moses]

There's a guide. But I'm saying, like, it's not like any other drug that you're in a cuddle puddle or. Or end up in sex with somebody. There's nothing here. It's you on your own and you're okay purging things.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so why would they do it as a group, just in general?

[Moses]

Not Catherine, but it's more for the. The shaman. Like, they do it with a few people, not just one. Because. Because going through the whole ceremony, preparing the materials, all that, you're not going to do it for one person. And maybe some rich people, maybe they do it on their own because it's just expensive. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

And how does he know she does it when the kids are there? What if they're with him? Like, you know.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And how often. That was the thing. You're like.

[Moses]

So most people do it once. And if you go to Peru, sometimes they do it twice. One day and the next day, and that's it. Because you get so much out of it, you don't need to do it repeatedly. Now, the criticism is that some people join the church and then they do it regularly. And the criticism that those people that do it regularly, they're kind of like start, you know, walking on clouds and detach from reality a little bit because it's a little bit too much maybe. But. So if she did it once or twice, there's nothing to criticize. She just took a little journey trying to figure out herself. So going over to a retreat treat, he's claiming she's doing it regularly, like every week.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was saying once a month is what I heard was the alleged.

[Moses]

Then it. It could be a lot, but it's not dangerous. You know what I mean? It's like joining any church.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

But it's not dangerous.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I don't know. I don't know about this, because I was saying. I told him if we were separated and you. My new boyfriend moved in, and I had full custody of the kids, and I was doing ayahuasca once a month. You want to be like, I know you'd be like.

[Moses]

I know you would never do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I definitely don't want to be drinking no mud. That's for sure. That's crazy. I don't know. I watched everyone talks about it. I know people, like, some people love it or whatever.

[Oscar]

Loved it, but really, yeah, he did it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I don't know how I feel about. I kind of have no education on this. I'm not really sure.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I don't think I would ever do. I hate throwing up, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. No, thank you. That's why I stopped doing, actually. I had one bad trip when I kept throwing growing up, remember? I thought it was like a turkey in that Jacuzzi. I was like. Like, I thought I was gonna die. It was the worst thing ever.

[Oscar]

I feel like. Also, Austin. I don't know how educated he is on it either.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's that.

[Oscar]

I feel like he is making it out to seem like it's a crack pipe or something, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, that's what I thought when I think I was like, what is this even? He's like, she's been doing the ayahuasca.

[Oscar]

Yeah. He really knows.

[Moses]

Well, I think he knows what he's doing. I think he's being very manipulative to try. I didn't turn people against her.

[Oscar]

She's doing drugs, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because that is the one part where people are, like, alarmed. Oh, my gosh, the kids. And I mean, again, I don't know the situation. I don't know what that means. Like, is it like, drinking wine with kids in the house? I don't know. But, like, regardless, he is. What is that called where you do, like, a little sidestep? You're like, okay, this is the issue. But, like, what is it?

[Oscar]

Pivoting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, pivot deterring something. Like just trying to be like, don't look over here. Yeah. Just be like, well, now. But now it's the kids, and now I'm worried, and now she's doing this stuff. So he's like, really, really reaching for. So I hope she does, like, a press tour and she can talk about it. I hope she waits. The book comes out. Because, like, we want to hear about all the juice, but, like, do a little press tour, so.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's not that far away. I think she said July. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm rereading that postpartum and me watching it. I feel sad. I've been watching so many tech talks, and I'm just like, God, that is, like, so awful and so sad.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

The whole thing just falling apart. But she seems happy now.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's.

[Moses]

It's just odd that now that you're absent, you worry about what's happening when you're not there. Like, true. You should have been there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's about.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you didn't have to be this way.

[Oscar]

And you were fine enough to go bring pizza to her house the day before, so. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what?

[Oscar]

That's what he said. He's like, I thought she was my best friend. I'm blindsided by this. I just brought pizza to her house, and I was hanging out with her and her boyfriend, so he had no concern until. Until she. The book came out. Okay, weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, that's so weird. Also, who brings pizza anymore? Just deliver it like an Austin, I guess.

[Oscar]

Maybe if you still lives in that trailer in her front yard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me bring a pizza.

[Oscar]

Let me bring the ladder.

[Trisha Paytas]

I loved a Friday night when my mom would bring a pizza home. It was great. But, like, now there's the apps. Like, no one.

[Moses]

Maybe it's working. Maybe there's doordash and stuff.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, don't mind that. Honestly. He is.

[Oscar]

He's a character.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's awful. God. Who is the. Who's the awful. Who's the awful man of the week?

[Oscar]

I don't know if he can be. There's a lot. There's a lot of contenders this week.

[Trisha Paytas]

That aren't in prison, that aren't in jail already.

[Oscar]

I think DDG takes it. I'm sorry, but you don't touch a Little Mermaid. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I love. Everyone's, like, uniting and standing up for how. Obviously.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that. And that reaction on the stream was crazy fake. Right? Like, obviously, he was, like, recreating his reaction because the.

[Oscar]

It's not that she filed for a restraining order. It was granted. So he knew.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

You find out when someone files, you get served, so he must have known. So, yeah, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I guess. I know it happens, like, all these women, but it's, like, crazy. Like, they also. It's like these, like, beautiful, like, famous, like, equally as powerful women are also, like, victims of this. It's, like, so, like, Sad and like, it's. I don't know. It just, like, really can happen to anyone because we've seen it with, like, Kiki Palmer, and now it's Halle Bailey. And obviously Rihanna we saw it with. And Cassie is just like, really?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's just what we see on, like, it's crazy. That's what we see on camera because you know what happens. Like, not on camera. I don't know. I don't know what's happening in the world.

[Oscar]

I know it's this week especially, has just been an onslaught of terrible men. Truly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Awesome. McBroom gives me the biggest ick for influencers if we're just talking influencer only. He's given me more than Logan.

[Oscar]

Yeah, definitely more than Logan. For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think. I don't know. I just. I really don't like his face. I see that as tick tocks. I'm like, oh, that Snapchat. I'm like, oh, he just looks so arrogant. Like he thinks he's eating with everything he's saying.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I'm like, you are a cheater. Good luck with life, Austin McBroom. I don't know what's happening next, but I don't think I'm having any more pizza parties with Catherine anytime soon. And her new boyfriend, he's weird. I don't know. Poor kids, too. It's like, oh, my God, leave the kids out of it.

[Oscar]

I know. Well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well.

[Oscar]

That is the theme this week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Awful.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, thanks for watching.

[Oscar]

Yes. Shout out. Stephanie Sue. We love. Sorry to the Suenator.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry to the Suenators. We love, love gay men. Except James Charles, I guess. Yeah. Damn, he ruined it for our gay episode. Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

Okay, well, happy brides, everyone, except James Charles.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. That's Lyles. And, you know, just look out for yourselves.

[Oscar]

Be kind. What does Ellen say? Be kind to people. What did she say at the end? Be kind to people. Didn't she. Wasn't that how she ended her show? Be kind?

[Moses]

I think maybe more appropriate, like, if you can't Love yourself, that's RuPaul, was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Joshua Die Evans. I said was, be kind. Be nice to people who be kind. She said that at the end.

[Oscar]

Maybe it was be nice to people out there. She used to say something like that at the end of her show, which was ironic, obviously, because she was bullying random people. But, yeah, the worst of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Colleen's first husband. His. His merch was be nice to people.

[Oscar]

Oh, work. That is a good shirt to have.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess YouTubers had the worst merch. Arguably every YouTuber had. I'm so glad you were stopped making merch filter. Franco would have one that said sports. I was like, what? You're a political commentator? What does this mean? Like. Or when they had nothing to do with anything. When they just got merch. It's like, hashtag blessed. I was like, okay, shout out Scotty Sire.

[Oscar]

Anti Scotty Scotty Club.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was just knocking off Anti Social Social Club. Please never tag me in another Scotty Sire video again. Domino's sponsor us. You guys will be at patreon.com just trish try new Frosties. And digging deeper into dubious men. We love you. Oh, Moses, the shirt you wanted to say. The Amazon shirt you posted.

[Moses]

No, your shirt.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my shirt. He went like this. It's like Amazon. Jess turned dot com. Where's your from?

[Oscar]

I actually don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it. You look like a dad.

[Moses]

Is the gender reveal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

The blue is drag.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we all have the blue. All right, love you guys. And we'll see you in the next one. See you soon. See you soon, Sacramento. I'll be there Friday night. Okay, bye.