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Justin Collette
There was one really drunk woman in Orlando that I had to yell at in the balcony. Do you remember that?
Isabella Esler
I do remember that one.
Jess Trish
So as Beetlejuice, you have to say something.
Justin Collette
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told her.
Jess Trish
That's very Beetlejuice.
Isabella Esler
When I started three years ago on the tour, that was my first job, like, my first professional gig, and it changed my life. Like, it's the reason that I, like, moved to New York and I'm doing all of these awesome things.
Justin Collette
Her name is Trisha.
Isabella Esler
She's got the filthy rich.
Jess Trish
Welcome to the Jess Trish podcast. Today we are in New York City. It's the night of my Broadway debut, and I am joined by the stars of the best musical on Broadway, Beetlejuice, the Musical. The Justin Collette and Isabella Esler.
Isabella Esler
Welcome.
Justin Collette
Happy debut.
Isabella Esler
Happy debut.
Jess Trish
Thank you. I'm. I'm so excited. So nervous. I love you guys so much. I'm a genuine fan because I've seen you guys already perform this here at the Palace Theater and on tour. Love you guys so much. This is the happiest day of my life.
Isabella Esler
So happy to say my life. Are you kidding me?
Jess Trish
Let's. Well, we've been talking, but I want to talk more about Beetlejuice, the musical back on Broadway. Third time. Were you guys fans of the show? Of the original Broadway show? Did you guys see it? Did you love it? Tell me your journey with.
Justin Collette
I was in School of Rock on Broadway, and I also had replaced Alex Brightman in that show, and he came by the theater quite a bit and told me that he was working on Beetlejuice, and I was so jealous. And he told me about all the jokes they were putting in the show and how funny it was, and I was excited to see it. So a friend of mine, I took the weekend off of doing the show, and I went to D.C. and I saw the out of Town there, and I thought it was so funny and so dark and so crazy, and I just fell in love with it there. I didn't think that I would do it. I just was like, this is a really good thing, and I'm glad this exists.
Jess Trish
You knew from the beginning?
Justin Collette
Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, the. The way the audience is reacting to it and the comedy of it. Also, like the script. It's so rare, I think, to find something on Broadway. The script, like, sounds like people talk. The dialogue is so natural. You know what I mean? So people really connecting with it. And I thought it was a really exciting project.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. And I feel like it's cool too. Because it's still, like, different from the movie while still, like, being faithful to the movie in a way. Like, it's hard to explain. Like, it wasn't, like, a direct copy. And I loved that.
Justin Collette
It's like fan fiction.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. Like, you're able to see a beloved movie from a different perspective, which. That's what I really liked about it. Yeah. I was a fan of the show when it opened on Broadway in, like, 20. 19. 2020. I was on TikTok at that point, and I would watch all of the videos. Like, that's how I found out about the show was when, like, all of the sounds were trending and all of the trends, all of that stuff. Like, I was a part of it. Like, I was a fan, and I really wanted to be in the show at some point.
Jess Trish
Wow.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
Like, I loved Lydia. Like, I learned Dead mom, like, that her main song, like, when I was 16, like, that was my. I loved that song.
Jess Trish
That is. That's, like, one of, like, the best songs in the whole show. Like, I love that when that comes on.
Isabella Esler
My favorite.
Jess Trish
Yeah. Everyone just, like, crying, applauding.
Isabella Esler
That was, like, the first song I heard. It was that it was Dead mom. And I think Beautiful Sound was the other one I heard. And I was like, that's so fun.
Jess Trish
It is so cool. Like, you were saying, like, the movie. Like, huge fan of the movie. But it is so different in the sense that there's, like, more depth to it with, like, the characters. Like, even the Netherworld has, like, such a bigger part. The emotional. Yeah, like, triumph that happens in the Netherworld. It, like, makes you cry. Whereas, like, the movie, we love classic, but it's not, like, bringing tears like the show.
Justin Collette
No, no, definitely not. The movie's more like an art project. I think it's, like, introducing Tim Burton's, like, aesthetic to the world. I think it was the first movie he did that had that, like, Burton Y style that we all really know now. But, like, there's not really a story. It's like, don't let him out. Right. It's like, the whole movie is, like, waiting for you to let Beetlejuice out of his, like, netherworld Cage.
Isabella Esler
And I find it interesting, too. Like, they didn't really talk about Lydia's, like, mom in the movie as much. And I find that really interesting that they were able to, like, find one line in the movie where she, like, barely mentions her mom to like, become such a big, like, plot point in the show.
Jess Trish
It makes it, like, the heart of It. And Beetlejuice, too. What is he in the film for, like, what they said, like, 18 minutes.
Justin Collette
Yeah. And he doesn't show up for, like, an hour and 15 minutes into the movie. Like, his first scene isn't until forever into it.
Jess Trish
Which Beetlejuice in this one is, like, never offstage.
Justin Collette
That is correct.
Isabella Esler
The entire time.
Jess Trish
The entire time.
Isabella Esler
I know how you do it.
Justin Collette
It's either me or you the whole time. Yeah. This on stage, for sure.
Jess Trish
That's true. Right? There's not really a scene without either of you.
Justin Collette
Yeah, not a lot of them. Yeah. Like, really, really quick bits. And I think that's what makes the show fun, is that, like, Bella goes out there, makes everybody feel all emotional and sad and cry, and then I go out like a lunatic and get to, like, break all the tension that she builds. It's a really fun job.
Jess Trish
So when did you guys. You both started the tour when it began. Was it three years ago? Two and a half years ago.
Isabella Esler
Three years ago, yeah.
Justin Collette
Yeah, it was around now. We were in Paducah, Kentucky, doing in 2022.
Isabella Esler
Wow.
Jess Trish
Duke has the audience there.
Justin Collette
That's. They. It was insaned up outside because it was the first production of Beetlejuice in North America done outside of the Broadway version. So, like, all the fans came, and it was. People were, like, packed in. Standing in that theater also was the first. I'd done Rock of Ages in the middle of COVID but it was the first. I hadn't been on stage in, like, a year and a half at that point, so I was, like, shaking. I was. So the room. The whole room is, like, vibrating with energy.
Isabella Esler
It was insane, and it was a beautiful thing.
Justin Collette
It was a really nice theater. Paducah is kind of a. Kind of a great place.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. The food is great.
Justin Collette
Food is great.
Jess Trish
I love that. So three years as these characters, do you find yourselves resonating with Lydia? Do you find yourself resonating with Beetlejuice?
Isabella Esler
Or Lydia?
Jess Trish
Or Lydia or. Which character do you resonate with the most? Maybe, like, can you relate to your characters?
Justin Collette
And if not, thank you so much. I feel like you're a bit of a Beetlejuice.
Isabella Esler
Thank you.
Justin Collette
Uh. Oh, how angsty are you feeling? You seem. You're happy.
Isabella Esler
Really?
Justin Collette
You seem happy.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
You're very bubbly. Like, you're bubbly. Yeah.
Isabella Esler
Thanks. No, I. I do feel very close to Lydia, especially, like, since I, like, heard about the show, like, as a teenager, I felt very, like, connected to her. I don't. I don't know. I don't see a lot of, like, strong, young female leads in shows a lot. And I think that's why, like, I gravitated towards her.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
You know, Like, I don't know. I felt like that same, like, teenage.
Jess Trish
Angst at that time, being like. Yeah, no one listens to me, you know?
Isabella Esler
Yeah. Felt like, attached to her in that she's relatable.
Jess Trish
I'm 37 and I feel, like, related to Lydia. I was just like. I also feel that sometimes, you know what I mean? She's the character, like, everyone wants to be. Every girl, every boy, every non. Binary.
Justin Collette
Yeah. Yeah, totally. Like, not being such a relatable story of, like, feeling like, small. I'm the opposite where, like, I feel like Beetlejuice has calmed me down.
Jess Trish
Like, I feel really.
Justin Collette
Yeah. I feel like just like I had all this energy somewhere in my body my whole life, waiting for it to be let out in, like, this way. And after three years of doing it, I'm like. I feel much more chill. Like, I don't. I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
I don't know what to do next.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
I feel like it was like scream therapy. Just, like, let this, like, this, like, something out of my body that it's, like, not there anymore.
Jess Trish
Like a demon, but a fun demon.
Justin Collette
A fun demon that's, like, on his way out of my soul, I think.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
Well.
Jess Trish
Yeah. So you guys go until January, right? So it's a couple more months. What do you do after? Are you gonna keep doing Beetlejuice? Because you're not on Tick Tock. You're on Tick Tock, which is where Beetlejuice. Are you still gonna continue the Beetlejuice fandom? Or you're just like, okay, time to move on to something else?
Isabella Esler
I don't know. Honestly, I'm. I mean, sure, I. I'll probably still be in the fandom. I love, like, watching all the videos and stuff, especially since, like, Beetlejuice is going to the West End, like, in London now.
Justin Collette
Yeah. Like, also, it's still touring. I think it's still going.
Jess Trish
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Justin Collette
So I think the show is, like, gonna continue to go. Yeah.
Isabella Esler
We're just not gonna be in it.
Justin Collette
But no, we're like. I don't know. We're like. I'm just. We're, like, carrying it for now. That's what the show is, right?
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
I feel like it's the fun part about it, for sure.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
I can't wait to see another beat Beetlejuice do this it's like. It's so. I mean, Andy Carl's doing it right now and, like, Abu Dhabi. And I. Yeah, and I met with Andy Carl. We had coffee. He came to opening night, and he had so many. We talked about Beetlejuice for, like, an hour and a half at this coffee shop. And, like, the stuff that he's come up with that he's gonna do, I'm like, this is gonna be insane and completely different from anything that I've seen before. And, like, especially with that character. It's just so fun to have an actor go in and just unhinge themselves.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
And act like, the craziest version of them.
Jess Trish
I was gonna say. Do you have meetings of the Beetlejuice? Like, Alex Brightman was here on Thursday, and, you know, obviously, Eddie over in Australia doing Beetlejuice. Like, do you guys like having meetings? And you're like, okay, this is our take on it. This is what we think. Beetlejuice or how's it work for you?
Justin Collette
No, we don't have, like, Beetlejuice meetings. Alex and Eddie and I don't sit in. We don't have, like, a conference where we talk about, like, the weirdest stuff we can do. I. I will say, though, that, like, Alex and I have, I think, such a similar sense of humor that even when he came in and we did, like, some Tiktoks, like, everything that we did when he got there, we didn't talk about any of it, and we both just started doing the same thing. Like, we have such. We have a very similar sense of humor, I think. And so it's just so fun. Whenever I get a chance to get together, then we're both really busy in a different places all the time.
Jess Trish
Time. Yeah.
Justin Collette
But I think that guy is so funny. And this is the second role that I've done that he originated. And he's been essentially, like, my writing partner for the last five years, where, like, every character I have, I take. I steal from him what I like, and then I make up my own stuff on top of it. And it's. It's so fun.
Jess Trish
Yeah. Your Beetlejuice is very, like, different. Like, obviously there's, like, the similar, like, beats and stuff, but you're. I think your Beetlejuice is, like, a completely different Beetlejuice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Justin Collette
Alex is so good at, like, he's just played this, like, scary, like, gremlin, like, Beetlejuice I love so much. And I was like, what if I play him like a little sweetheart sometimes? What if he's just Like a soft little ball that is, like, so affected by Lydia. Oh, God, he was just so hurt. He's so lonely. I thought it was, like, fun to make him, like a little punching bag who, like, just has these big attacks and these big feelings. But, like, I again, I took so many things that Alex did, and I think that everything that he did was brilliant. I just don't believe in copying somebody else's performance. So I had, like. I had to find a different way to do it because I didn't want to do the same way.
Jess Trish
Right?
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
So if they ever do a musical movie on Beetlejuice, it's like you or Alex or Jack Black because you guys do a lot of his roles, too.
Justin Collette
Let's just swing all three of us out. We'll do that. Like Mr. Parnassus, whatever that was, that movie that. I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about. Heath Ledger. And then they all five guys took his role. This exists. This is real. Johnny Depp and Edward Norton.
Isabella Esler
What?
Jess Trish
Johnny Depp and Edward Norton.
Justin Collette
There is this movie that Terry Gilliam did that Heath Ledger died. And then they really, these five actors, took over his role and then donated all the money to his daughter.
Jess Trish
Oh, that's everything.
Isabella Esler
That's really, really sweet.
Justin Collette
I think it was a Terry Gilliam movie. I can't remember.
Jess Trish
Our editor can pop it in. He's so good at finding this is.
Justin Collette
Real or I've dreamed it.
Jess Trish
I do love. I do love your take on Beetlejuice too. Also, that he, like, has romance with, like, everybody. Like, besides Lydia, of course, but like, everyone else is the thing. He finds a little romance with everyone.
Justin Collette
He's just been alive for so long. Who cares? Yeah. It's like. It's like a body's a body. You know what I mean? He's just into it. And a body is a body.
Isabella Esler
That's his philosophy.
Justin Collette
That's his philosophy. Yeah. Yeah. Who. Who has hang ups? You know when people get old and they're like. You know when, like somebody who's like, in their 80s and they're just like. They walk out with, like, no clothes on. And, like, they're like, they don't care anymore. They're, like, backing out of the driveway. They don't care who's behind them. Like, imagine being 12,000. Like, he just like.
Jess Trish
Is that his age? Is it confirmed as 12,000 in the breakdown?
Justin Collette
Yes, he's 12,000. They do in the breakdown.
Isabella Esler
I know it was like, thousand, but.
Justin Collette
I mean, I don't know that it's in canon. But I remember in the audition sheet, he's like, he's a 12,000 year old demon who's over it.
Jess Trish
Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Give him grace for 12,000.
Isabella Esler
That's probably why he's so unhinged too, because he's been alive for so long.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
What is your favorite part of the show when you perform as Lydia? Like, what do you, like, look forward to the most?
Isabella Esler
It changes all the time for me, but I love say My Name when we're on the roof. Like, that's always, like, I always have so much fun in that scene because also that was one of the, like, songs that got me into the show too. Like, it was, I think, like, that there was a part that was, like, trending. It was like a trending sound on Tick Tock and, like, I loved watching the videos. So, yeah, it's so fun to, like, play with you and, like, go back and forth, like, because we're both so different. And it's so fun to just, like, have this, like, sad emo girl and then this, like. Yeah, little freaky demon.
Justin Collette
I love doing. I love doing Beautiful sound with you because it's the one moment in the show that we're both happy for a minute.
Isabella Esler
I know, I know.
Jess Trish
And then it goes down and we.
Justin Collette
Get to, like, really, like, we both have our dreams come true for, like, six minutes and there's a bunch of dancing Beetlejuices around us. It's like that member every night to me is like. Is so fun to do with you and with the ensemble.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Who are like, all the clones are so fun. They play them with these, like, just like.
Isabella Esler
And they all have their own names, too.
Justin Collette
Like, they all have their own names.
Jess Trish
Oh, I love. They have backstory.
Justin Collette
They build backstories for their clones. Yes.
Jess Trish
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And even seeing it, I get to see it backstage, so I get to see some of, like, the excitement. Like, they. They're rushing. The ensemble is playing so many characters. And so when they have to do the clones, they're doing their own makeup, their own hair. It's like insane to see backstage.
Isabella Esler
Wild. And they do it so fast, so fast, so hard.
Justin Collette
Like the Goblins and Ho being dead, too.
Jess Trish
Right.
Justin Collette
Like the cheerleader Goblins, they put these, like, fake ears on. They put makeup on that. They take those off to get, like, the choir. Like, it's like, I think they have like, five or six, like, total changes in the show that they do themselves, largely.
Isabella Esler
It's crazy. It's really Amazing how they.
Justin Collette
Mateo's, like, doing backflips.
Isabella Esler
I know.
Jess Trish
You guys are doing backflips. Like, you make it look so effortless on stage. Watching Backflip backstage is insane because it's, like, so chaotic. There's so much happening. But then on stage, you guys make it look so easy. I was like, oh, my gosh, this is so hard. I'm in one scene.
Justin Collette
The first two months of tour, though. I don't know if you did this, but, like, I remember coming off stage because we're in a new theater every week and, like, not being able to find the door.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Because you're in a new theater. Right. So the backstage is different. So I'd, like, run, like, a wall looking for a door I thought was there. I just was absolutely.
Isabella Esler
I'd be like, where's the bathroom?
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
Where's my room?
Jess Trish
That part I didn't even think about. When you go on the tour, because here, it's crazy. At the Palace Theater, there's, like, so many, like, I. Oh, my gosh.
Isabella Esler
I know.
Jess Trish
But we're, like, having something different each time.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
What was the coolest? Because I know they brought the pig back for Broadway. Is there any other big changes that you guys, like, love for the Broadway show?
Justin Collette
Sandworm and the opening number and the whole being dead, that, like, little, really big sandworm. That's, like. It's so fun. I really miss not having that.
Jess Trish
We have two sandworms in the show.
Justin Collette
That's right.
Jess Trish
One Sandy. Who's the other one?
Justin Collette
Sally.
Isabella Esler
Sally.
Jess Trish
Oh, there's two. Right. So there's two. Any preference on sharing the stage with one or the other?
Isabella Esler
I love them both equally.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
They're both my children.
Justin Collette
Yeah. It's like picking your child.
Isabella Esler
For sure. Yeah. I could never.
Justin Collette
One's into science, One's really into the arts, you know, it's a balance.
Isabella Esler
On tour, they had, like, a bio for Sandy.
Jess Trish
Really? Yeah.
Isabella Esler
Was it in the Playbill?
Justin Collette
It was in the Playbill. Katie Davis wrote it for the first show in San Francisco, joining the cast, and she wrote a bio for the Sandworm.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, it was really cute.
Jess Trish
It was so fun. We were talking earlier. We got to bring our kids, like, trick or treating and, like, see the sand warm. And they had the candy in the mouth of the sandworm, which was. That's what's cool about this company of Beetlejuice is like, just the camaraderie you guys all have backstage. And how nice. When I did my put in on Sunday, it was like. Which I Didn't know this term, by the way, if you don't know Broadway a put in, like, I get to be in full costume, full everything. And the cast who's doing this show, eight shows a week, been on tour for three years. They come in before the show and, like, run it with the person being put in, which was so nice. And y' all were like, so nice, so supportive. Like, I am not clearly trained in Broadway at all. And everyone was just so supportive and so nice, which is, like, such a fun thing to see backstage, especially with huge stars like yourselves who have been doing this for so long.
Isabella Esler
I mean, I think, like, the, like, Broadway thrives on community. Like, it. You're all working together. Like, it's impossible to do the show without, like, supporting each other like that.
Justin Collette
It's a really hard job. And everybody who's here is doing it because they. They really, really love it. I mean, I don't think anybody gets in a theater for, like, the money or, like, you know, or that you think it's gonna work out.
Isabella Esler
You know what I mean?
Justin Collette
There's. I don't know how many theaters are on Broadway. I really should, but, like, I don't know how many people get to be on Broadway. Like, it's a really, really small number. And so I think everybody. Everybody who's on it knows how lucky they are to be there. Yeah, that's, like, for sure.
Isabella Esler
Totally. Yeah. And I. I love the community aspect of it all. Every show or workshop or just, like, any small. I meet so many amazing people that are, like, as passionate as I am about the arts community, and it's really. It's really fulfilling for me.
Justin Collette
I know you're interviewer, but, like, what are you looking forward to tonight? Like, you know what I mean? Like, you asked me, how's your favorite scenes and stuff? Like, you're such a fan of the show. You've seen the show so much. You're like, like, is this, like, what are you looking forward to tonight going on?
Jess Trish
Oh, my gosh. Well, I guess it's not really a spoiler since I'm out for a while, but I get to be in the day o scene, which is, like the dinner scene. And it's my absolute favorite in the whole show.
Isabella Esler
Oh, it's so iconic.
Jess Trish
It's so iconic. Our dining room has been Beetlejuice themed for the past, like, seven years. We have the exact replica. We have. This statue is like that all the time.
Justin Collette
I've seen pictures.
Jess Trish
I've lived Beetlejuice since I saw it. And I will say, since I saw the musical, because I, like, liked the movie, of course, but the musical is, like, what changed me. I saw it again at 31, at 2019, and it's like, the whole theme of, like, feeling invisible. Right. And, like, changed my Life. Even at 31, I was kind of, like, I was in a really dark place, and 2019, and now I'm in this, like, really great place. But it, like, sounds dramatic. Like, gave me will to live. I was like, you know what?
Isabella Esler
Totally.
Jess Trish
This is kind of inspiring. This is making me feel happy, some sort of joy for a moment. And it was, like. It changed my life, like, at, like, 31. So now to get to be here at, like, 37 and, like, get to be in it, because you get to immerse yourself in, like, this other world for, like. Well, you guys are doing it, like, eight shows a week, but it is our whole world.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Justin Collette
This is the other world, too, which is.
Jess Trish
Right. To be out in the real world. Once you come out of the show, it's like, wait, what? Like. And I like to be. I like to be in the netherworld for a little bit. I like to be in the Beetlejuice world because it's just fun and there's a happy ending for everyone at the end.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. You know, it's a very, like, relatable, like, theme. I feel like everyone of all ages, backgrounds can relate to any of the characters in the show. And it was nice being on tour, like, meeting, like, these amazing fans that had, like, the same story as you. Like, they felt like they were able to, like, get out of, like, a dark place from, like, seeing the show. And it's nice to know that, like, we've been able to be a part of that in some way.
Justin Collette
Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's. That's what I mean. Wanting to pass on to somebody else is like.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
I think other people need to, like, hold this space for people for a bit, because, like, we've been hearing. We both felt this and have, like, been hearing these kinds of stories now for years, like, across the country in places. Like, I was telling you, we went to, like, smaller towns that, like, people who maybe can't afford. Afford to come to New York City and, like, see a show on Broadway. Like, the types of people we got to do this show for are, like, people, like. Like, people like, I knew growing up. Like, I grew up. I was born in, like, a trailer park in, like, Canada on the East Coast. Like, there was. I don't. I never saw a Musical ever. There's no theater around where I. Yeah. Where I lived. And so being able to do that for people has been, like, so emotionally overwhelming and so hard to, like, process that. Now that it's wrapping up for me, I'm, like, feeling it more and more.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, it's nice to be, like, accessible for people, like, on tour. Like, I grew up in California and, like, I couldn't go to New York all the time. It's. It was really expensive. Like, I couldn't afford it. And I would watch tours all the time of these, like, bit of these Broadway productions, and it made me so. It made me feel like part of the Broadway community even though I couldn't go to New York.
Justin Collette
Yeah. Also, which is why, like, I'm. I'm not on TikTok, but I'm so grateful that it is on TikTok and that gave people access to this show that way. Like, it's a really. It's a. It's an amazing thing that I was able to do. I just. Once I start, I. Like, I've turned into a zombie and I cannot stop being on it. Like, it, like.
Jess Trish
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Justin Collette
No, literally, it's like, it's asking me why I don't do heroin. It's like. I know, I know. It's amazing. I've heard great things, but no one will ever see me ever again.
Isabella Esler
I've heard great things.
Justin Collette
In a basement with maps. I'll be on the darkest corners of conspiracy theory. TikTok, trying to, like, find, like, bodies buried somewhere or whatever treasure I'd be. I do treasure hunt things. That's what I would get obsessed with.
Jess Trish
Treasure on TikTok.
Justin Collette
Yeah. Like shipwrecks and stuff like that.
Jess Trish
Oh, that is a part of TikTok. Yeah. People miss you on there, for sure.
Justin Collette
All right, I'll go on for a bit. I'll go on for. I'll just have a little bit.
Jess Trish
Just until the run, you know what I mean?
Isabella Esler
Just a taste.
Jess Trish
Yeah, just a taste.
Isabella Esler
I'm gonna. Screen time's gonna be like, 50 hours, dude.
Jess Trish
Oh, my God. It's so fun because it is just fun to see because you have Instagram now, so it's fun to see, like, a little bit of, like, you know, in your band. You have, like, a rock band and you're like, oh, Beetlejuice. Like, does rock music.
Justin Collette
I did get to record a rock album while I was on tour, which was so fun because we get to go to all these legendary recording studios. We went to, like, this studio called Fame, which is in Alabama, which is where, like, Aretha Franklin cut her first record, and Lynyrd Skynyrd, like, recorded Freebird, and John Lennon recorded there. It was. That was a really fun.
Isabella Esler
That's amazing.
Jess Trish
While on tour. That is. Wow. That's wild. So that's why. Yeah.
Justin Collette
Beetlejuice Band.
Jess Trish
Wait, what do you mean?
Justin Collette
Like, the band that's in Beetlejuice? They were on tour with us, the orchestra. So I got the orchestra to come in and record these songs with me.
Jess Trish
Oh, my God.
Justin Collette
It's the same drummer, bass player, the guitar player. Oh, my God.
Jess Trish
Oh, that's really cool. I found time to do that, like, while you do eight shows a week. Like, how you guys are here now with your voices, which you both do, like, voices in the show. Like, you have, like, obviously, like, belting voices, but then you have, like, character voices, too. How are you saving. Because me, I have literally one line in the show, and, like, my voice. I can't. I can't. Yeah, yeah. I'm not kidding. I'm like, I need tea, not a latte. Like, I'm very. So how are you guys doing it?
Isabella Esler
This is for you. Like, how do you deal with that? I'm baffled. Like, ever since we. Ever since we started, like, I was always, like, baffled how you don't die.
Justin Collette
Every time my body's become a science experiment. I literally don't know, like, because I have to. I know how it feels. But, like, especially, again, being on tour, sometimes you're in Denver, which is on top of a mountain, and there's, like, no oxygen. So, like, in Denver, I didn't know this, but when we got there, like, there's oxygen tanks in the wings.
Isabella Esler
We had our own personal oxygen tanks. Because it's so high up, you can't breathe. Like, people have, like, passed out, like, during shows. Not on Beetlejuice, but I got close. Yeah. But I've heard stories, like, from, like. Yeah.
Jess Trish
Oh, my God.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
Did you have to use them?
Justin Collette
Yeah. Oh, I was literally.
Isabella Esler
He did a can every show.
Jess Trish
Every show.
Isabella Esler
A whole can.
Jess Trish
A can of oxygen.
Justin Collette
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the Nether Row people walking on the first week, I was sitting there, like, I was in a nursery nursing home, just, like, in full Beetlejuice costume, like, heaving on this industrial tank of oxygen. Like, yeah, yeah. It's like, because I realized when I got there that I hold my breath to do the Voice. I didn't know that. I go like, hey, what's up? Like, I hold my breath while I'm doing it. I didn't realize it until there was no oxygen anymore. But you have to keep your voice, like, perfect. Mine can be gravelly and I can be tired and it still kind of works and I can push through. Mine's. Mine can take, like, a lot of punishment, but the punishment, like, sounds good. You have to be like, clear tone up in space forever while, like, weeping.
Isabella Esler
It's really hard. Yeah. And especially because, like, Beetlejuice was my first, like, job ever. So, like, it was an adjustment trying to figure out how to even deal with, like, doing eight shows a week and doing the whole, like, Broadway schedule. So it was definitely trial and error. Like an adjustment trying to figure out how to not, like, kill myself every week with doing, like almost three hour show eight times and going to different climates. I feel like I've gotten the routine down, though. Especially now that we're like, sitting down in one place and not traveling all the time. It helps a lot. Yeah.
Jess Trish
Do you have any pre show rituals, like, superstitions, anything that you do before a show?
Isabella Esler
I actually don't, which is weird. Yeah, I kind of just like, sit and go on my phone.
Jess Trish
You do some tiktoks. I see your TikTok. Oh, I do TikTok sometimes.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. Like, I. I like to get there early so I don't feel like I have to, like, stress, like doing my makeup and doing my hair. Because, like, we don't have to be there until half hour before, which is why. Isn't that crazy? I know.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
They should be there like at three hours before. Like, it's a space launch. I know what it feels like too.
Jess Trish
Makeup.
Isabella Esler
But people get there all the time.
Justin Collette
I'm there an hour before.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
I'm there because you have to get into the hair and makeup. Yeah.
Isabella Esler
And I usually get there an hour too, just so I can at least get like 15 minutes to just like, scroll my phone. That's so funny to like, relax and not, like, be in the show yet. And then after that I have to, like, be in it. But. Yeah. What are you.
Jess Trish
Do you.
Justin Collette
I listen to that same Clash. So Matthew Murphy came and did our photos when we were in Paducah, and he asked what song I wanted to hear while doing the photo shoot. And I said I Fought the Law by the Clash. I have no idea why. I'm not a huge. Not a. I wasn't a massive Clash fan. And then we played that and I like. So all the Beetlejuice promo photos are like, me dancing to the Clash.
Jess Trish
Oh.
Justin Collette
And so every before every single Show. I listen to that song all the way through. Wow.
Jess Trish
Does it get you, like, in character? Like, I'm trying to think rebellious, I.
Justin Collette
Guess I fought the law.
Jess Trish
The long one.
Justin Collette
It's rebellious, but also you lose. Which is Beetlejuice's story.
Jess Trish
Very much that.
Justin Collette
Yes, it is the law.
Jess Trish
That is so interesting. Yeah. To see. Because I always, like, saw. I know when we go on, my. My scene partner is Travis. He plays Maxi Dean and he does a little like, ring at the doorbell. Even though it does nothing, but there's like a little doorbell sound. And he like presses it before. And I'm like, they're weirdly calm. Or they posted. I think it was on the Beetlejuice socials. They posted them, like, throwing like hats onto the doorknob as like a game before they go on. And it's like right before the big scene, right? And everyone's just back there so casual. Like, let's just see if we can like, throw this hat on the doorknob. I'm like, this is so interesting.
Isabella Esler
I just think after doing it for so long, you have to like, you're able to just like, turn it off and then turn it on in like one second.
Justin Collette
I mean, yeah, I saw it with the kids in School of Rock. Like the first week you have like these like 10, 11 year olds being like, I'm on Broadway. It's so scary. And like, crying. They're so nervous. Then week two, they're like, I'm on Broadway, am king of the world. Like week three, they're like, can I go home?
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Can I? Like, and they're like passing notes, like, for real in the classroom scenes and stuff. And they're like, talking to each other and like. Yeah, it's like. It's weird how quickly you get used to it. But then when you get close to it ending, like, I was just telling you earlier that like, like now that we're ending in January, I'm already like, starting to feel very sad and feeling like, what this is. When you're in the middle of, like, the run of it all, it's just so much work. It's bizarrely normal.
Isabella Esler
People even, like, mess around on stage. Like, we, like, do like.
Jess Trish
No, okay.
Isabella Esler
Not like, mess up. Sorry.
Jess Trish
No, we do.
Isabella Esler
But like, sometimes we do like, little games or like, when I'd be on stage, like, I would have, like, friends off stage and I could see them and they're like making faces at me.
Jess Trish
Like, I wonder that there's a game.
Justin Collette
There's a game for a long time. That Mila and I did the Girl Scout where on her way out the door, she would yell, like. Like a kid, a character at me, like a charade. And then when I jump off the table, she'd be in the wing and have to, like, try to physically do that, whatever. It was like. Yeah, yeah. She'd be standing there waiting with our physical therapist, and it'd be like, ping pong. She'd be like, crabs. Oh, my God. So I jump off the table doing, like, these weird little things.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
So that's just how much you know the show. You're just like. This is like clockwork now. You don't even think about it when you're out there. You're just like, we can play games.
Isabella Esler
Well, there have definitely been performances where, I swear to God, I, like, black out. Like, I don't remember.
Jess Trish
You just go through it.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, I just do it.
Jess Trish
And then I'm like, it's been three hours.
Isabella Esler
Like, you can tell.
Jess Trish
You have fun on stage. Like, what? That's. The other cool thing about this show is I. I'm a huge Broadway fan, so I see all the shows. I love all the shows. But when you see Beetlejuice, especially, again with this cast, is, like. You can just tell. It's, like, fun. You know what I mean? Like, it's not a fun show.
Isabella Esler
And it's nice because it's, like, different.
Justin Collette
Every performance, too, because I'm radically present. I'm never on autopilot because the audience is yelling at me.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, yeah. You have to, like, you're doing. Talking to the audience, and they're different every time.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
And also, yeah, this feels unique, too, because, like, I feel like it's not often where, like, people in the audience are just, like, screaming at you, like, trying to talk to you, like, all the time.
Jess Trish
They're like a character in the show.
Justin Collette
Yeah, yeah. I don't hate it.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, it's funny. It's funny.
Justin Collette
Like. Like, most of the time, it's really, really fun.
Isabella Esler
Like, they'll just be, like, some drunk audience member being like, Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
Jess Trish
Oh, have you gotten hecklers? We don't love hecklers here. I don't know if they're the cows.
Isabella Esler
Like, hecklers.
Justin Collette
There was one really drunk woman in Orlando that I had to yell at in the balcony. Do you remember that?
Isabella Esler
I do remember that.
Jess Trish
So as Beetlejuice, you have to say something.
Justin Collette
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told her to up.
Jess Trish
That's very Beetlejuice. That's. I love seeing that when People are, like, filming and, like, when a Beetlejuice will be like, stop. You know, don't film the show. Only the current calls.
Justin Collette
But it's so nice because you can just. He's Beetlejuice.
Jess Trish
So you just get away with kind of.
Justin Collette
You got so much goodwill. I love when they're like kids at the show, though. That's kind of my favorite. There's a pretty good video, video that somebody posted of, like, a young child laughing at me when I said that. It's on, like, YouTube. I think of that. I'm sad and a kid just goes, like, just laughing. Ridicules me. There's one show, too. I remember where I got. Where I. Spoilers. Whatever. I get. I get. I get. I get murdered.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
And then this, like, this little girl.
Jess Trish
In the crowd went, no, it's darring.
Justin Collette
She thought that I died. And so I just said, I'm okay. And then I went back down.
Jess Trish
Oh, I love that.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, that's so funny. Oh, I love that.
Jess Trish
People always ask if it's good for all ages. I have some nephews and nieces coming that are like, you know, 7, 8, and they're like, is it okay? I'm like, I think so. It's fun. Right over the head. Yeah, I think so. My daughter's 3, so I don't know. I'm trying to find a way for her to come in somewhere. Like, Curtain Call, maybe. I don't know. Something I've seen infants. What would you tell people who have never seen a Broadway show? Why. Why Beetlejuice? Why should they pick Beetlejuice to come see this holiday season?
Isabella Esler
I feel like it's very engaging. I feel like it's a good first musical to see, especially, like, even if you're not into musicals. Like, it's very engaging. And you also, like, feel like you're part of the show. That's what I love about it is that, like, you feel included.
Justin Collette
It's a good gateway drug for musical theater.
Isabella Esler
It's, like, easy to understand what's going on. And the song. Songs are fun.
Justin Collette
They're catchy.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
It's not sung through, which for some musicals, if you go to, like, a sung through one for the first time, I feel like that's pretty jarring. If you're used to, like, movies.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
And you'll kind of, you know, this character, it'll be, like, familiar, but also different. I feel like it is a really good. Also, there's, like, so many different genres of musical theater music in it. Right. Like, stuff is Like a rappy, like, almost like Hamiltony and like. Like the way that it's like stream of consciousness. And then Lydia's got, like, you know, pop punk.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Stuff. And then the Maitlands are like golden age musical theater.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
Yes.
Justin Collette
So, like.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, I agree.
Justin Collette
Yeah. I feel like it's a good intro to. To what Broadway could be for all of you in the future.
Isabella Esler
Totally.
Jess Trish
I agree. I think, like, seeing this one, a lot of people that I know that are not in, like, Broadway, like you said, it's not.
Justin Collette
It's.
Jess Trish
It's the full story. It's the full package. It's the costumes. It's like everything. It's not like, yeah. The music Man. It's not on Broadway right now, but, you know. Yeah.
Justin Collette
It's like, hey, remember the past. My son comes into a town. Why don't you present all your disbelief? There's also great dancing in our show too. Like the. The clones and beautiful sound and stuff. So it really does have, like. It does have it.
Isabella Esler
And it's, like, relevant too, you know, it's very modern and, like, I feel like people can understand the message and what's going on.
Justin Collette
Yes. But we were just. We were talking about this earlier that, like, I. I loved horror as a kid. I don't know if you said. You said you saw scary movies. Yeah, I remember seeing, like. Like, I saw Psycho when I was a kid, which was like, I couldn't shower forever, like, without facing the door. And I read. I read Stephen King and, like, Goosebumps and stuff like that.
Jess Trish
Oh, my God.
Justin Collette
I loved horror when I was a kid. Like, I, like, obsessed with it.
Jess Trish
Do you think it impacted you? Anyway, were you just like, are you scared of everything? Are you not scared?
Justin Collette
Because, you see, I'm not scared of anything. It's like, weirdly desensitized me.
Jess Trish
Oh, that's kind of everything, though. So no jump scares for you?
Justin Collette
No.
Jess Trish
You're not scared of, like, numb. I'm weirdly scared of, like, everything. Like, even the scene that I'm in, I'm like, this is kind of scary. Like, I'm kind of scared, like, you know what I mean? Because I get to be next to the big Beetlejuice.
Isabella Esler
Well, it's extremely overstimulating.
Jess Trish
No, it's like, low key kind of scary. Oh, my gosh. I'm, like, scared of, like. And you're scared, you said? Of like. Yeah, like, I'm scared of everything. Yeah. So that you don't have to. You have to act. Well, because I guess Lydia is Not really scared of much. But you.
Isabella Esler
No, yeah, I. I. Me, Isabella, I am scared of. Yeah. But I have to act because I really feel like Lydia is not scared of anything. Like, I always, like, have, like, a. A weird, stupid, irrational fear. Like, during. In the middle of a show, there'll be, like, a big spider or something. And I'm terrified of spiders, but in my brain, I'm like, lydia wouldn't be scared of spiders. So I have to pretend. Yeah, yeah. And I'm always getting so scared if there's, like, a weird bug on there, and I would just, like, ruin the show.
Jess Trish
And there's, like, bugs all behind you. The little beetles are all behind you, all pink.
Isabella Esler
I know.
Jess Trish
Were you a theater kid growing up?
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
Okay, so you were in, like, your community plays and everything?
Isabella Esler
Yeah, I've been doing, like, community theater and, like, theater at my school since I was, like, six. It was my big. Yeah, it was my whole thing.
Jess Trish
What's your first role at six years old?
Isabella Esler
Oh, God.
Jess Trish
Do you remember?
Isabella Esler
I did the tree number five.
Jess Trish
Was that yours?
Isabella Esler
I did the Velveteen Rabbit. That was the show. I did six. And I was an aunt and my first, like, featured role, I did the Sound of Music, and I was Brigitte. I was like, the middle child.
Jess Trish
Oh, my God. That's a good one to be in.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. That's a great show.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
And your Broadway debut is Beetlejuice.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
Which is, like, so crazy because I saw you did, like, you did life after up in Canada, and you've been doing. And you've been doing the tour, which in my head, not knowing. I think the tour is because you get the Playbills. I'm like, oh, that's Broadway. But I guess Broadway theater is, like, makes your Broadway debut. So this is your first Broadway show.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. And I'm so happy, like, this is the show to make my Broadway debut. It feels very full circle because, like, when I started three years ago on the tour, that was my first job, like, my first professional gig, and it changed my life. Like, it's the reason that I, like, moved to New York and I'm doing all of these awesome things. So it's. To be able to, like, come back in the show and have another, like, really amazing milestone with the same show. It means a lot to me.
Jess Trish
It feels, like, comfortable. Were you 18 when you joined the tour?
Isabella Esler
Yeah. Yeah.
Jess Trish
Oh, my gosh. And are you just going out by yourself? I mean, obviously you have the cast, but are you just, like, by yourself, or did you, like, your mom come or Are you just, like.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, I just moved by myself.
Justin Collette
Wow.
Isabella Esler
And on tour, it was, like, my first time being alone. Like, it was right after high school, so I guess that was kind of my college.
Jess Trish
Yeah. What about three summer, Dan.
Justin Collette
No, that wasn't.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, no, no. But it was my first time, like, being on my own. Wow. It was an adjustment for sure, having to, like, figure out, like, my food.
Jess Trish
Yeah, you guys were saying that.
Isabella Esler
And, like, doing my own, like, responsibilities as an adult.
Justin Collette
When I went to college, my dining hall was attached to my dorm room. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was probably a step up, actually, for me.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jess Trish
Wow. That is. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of young cast members. When I went to the tour, I leave. Who was in the ensemble at the time? Yeah. He was the best day of my life. He emailed me. He's like, I'm on Beetlejuice on tour. Like, when you come to the show. I was like, are you kidding me? He's like, you want to come backstage? I was like, yes. I was like, I mean, I got to meet you there, which is really fun. And I got to meet a lot of the young cast. And it is, like, so impressive. Everyone just so young being in this show. It's, like, such a hard show, and it's, like, so impressive. And I mean, it's wild to see.
Justin Collette
It's like, it's. It's. It requires that level of, like, energy to be able to, like, do it, you know, and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, finding that balance is really, really hard.
Jess Trish
Do eight shows a week is, like, such commitment. And to do that at, like, 18, like, that's the most wild thing. Like, that's insane to do. Your Broadway debut was School of Rocker?
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
Oh, really?
Justin Collette
Yeah. 2017, same as you. I show up for rehearsals, and I was like, what are all these numbers on the stage? Like, I had never done a musical really, before then at all? No, really, like, professional music.
Isabella Esler
Oh, what a flex. Stop being your first show.
Jess Trish
Yeah, yeah. Like, how. How. How did you get.
Justin Collette
I. I was in improv and sketch comedy. I did, like, Second City in Chicago, and I was doing improv and sketch in Toronto, and I'd done, like, some community musical, like, dinner theatery stuff, and, like, some. Some local stuff that was written. But I'd never had a singing lesson and I'd never done, like, a professional. Actually, the only Broadway show ever was in was in Bat Boy.
Jess Trish
Wait, what?
Justin Collette
When I was in college.
Jess Trish
Oh, my God.
Justin Collette
A week before it opened, they didn't have enough boys to Be in the ensemble. And so they asked me if I'd go in and be in like a few scenes and like, flesh out the singing. And so my friend Eric and I went and we sung in the ensemble numbers. And then we would do the ensemble numbers, then crawl out of the fire escape in the theater and go drink at the bar across the street and then crawl back up the fire escape into the theater and go do the show. That was the only one I'd ever done. And so then I got to. I got to New York and everybody was so nice and I was terrified because I was getting ready to be Dewey, which was every other line of dialogue at the Winter Garden Theater. And like, Andrew Lloyd Webber hired me and I had to sing for him. And I'm like, I don't know how.
Isabella Esler
Also, Dewey is like, hard role.
Jess Trish
Yes, it is insane, crazy role with kids, too. And so you're like, on stage with kids that are always changing out because of their schedule and.
Justin Collette
Yeah, yeah, I looked. I remember sitting. I remember getting the script and going home after I moved here and they give me the job. I had like a four month trial. They're just going to see whether I was going to crash and burn. And I remember sitting down and looking at the script and like, thinking to myself, sincerely, I can't do this.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
Wow. Really?
Justin Collette
I can't do this. There's no way I'm going to be able to do this.
Jess Trish
So what do you think was the push that you were able to do it?
Justin Collette
And I just had to go and. And like, I had to do things that a person who could do it, would try to do. Yeah, I like went to. I went to the show and I watched Eric Peterson perform it, who was in it. And I like, like, I went. I'm like, you have to give me a ticket to go every night. And so I watched him do it over and over again. And I just read the script over and over again and I just like, I worked my off and like, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah. But it was genuinely terrifying.
Jess Trish
It's so terrifying. Yeah.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
I feel like it seems like impossible at first, like seeing all the things you have to do, but it's kind of. It's like a mental block. Like, you can.
Justin Collette
Yeah, you can do it.
Isabella Esler
I mean, I always think about, like, people who are swings, who, like, cover.
Justin Collette
Like, there are people dance swings in our show. They dance all seven different numbers, multiple tracks.
Isabella Esler
And in my brain I'm like, that's impossible. It's crazy. But so many actors do it because they figure it out. They, like, they work hard and they. They do it. So it's not impossible, but it is really impressive.
Jess Trish
Mark was the swing when I did my put in. He was the swing for Maxi and then Beetlejuice because you had to get your makeup done. And he was saying it was easier for him to do the swing. He's like, I want. I need to know the whole show because it's just, like, easier for me to do all the work, which is, like, why? Because he was, like, doing every part, so he was doing Maxi. And then the next time I did the put in, he's Beetlejuice. And I'm like, how are you doing that? And they're not doing the show every night like, you guys, you know, I mean, they're. They're in there in the ensemble or they're watching, but it's. They're like the unsung heroes of Broadway at this.
Isabella Esler
100% understudies and swings.
Jess Trish
Safe.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, Broadway. And it's like. Because also, like, there have been times when I had to call out mid performance because I've gotten sick. Like, and they just jump in, and people jump in, like, so quickly because that's just what you do, you know? And it's so impressive and amazing. It's.
Jess Trish
I don't. Yeah, I don't think people could, like, fully grasp it. You know what I mean? Because again, it makes it so effortlessly. I remember even when Alex Brightman did Beetlejuice, I remember he would, like, there was like, a half show call out, and, like, another Beetlejuice jumped in. You're just like. Like, it's. It's insane.
Justin Collette
I called out mid show once in School of Rock, and I was so embarrassed, and it was so hard, and I was like, I was. Whatever. But then I remember coming off stage, and because they're like, you guys can get through one more scene. I, like, I lost my voice on stage. I don't know what happened. And I'm like, yeah, I can. I can do this one scene or this classroom scene. And then I was walking off. And Dewey's never off stage. It was literally just for, like, a set piece to come on. And then I walk off, and my inner study was standing in the wings fully dressed. He had, like, four minutes notice. And then the announcement came over, and it was like, for the remainder of the performance, Dewey, we played by Jonathan Wagner. And then the show just kept going. Like, he literally walked on stage and there was no. There was nothing.
Isabella Esler
It's amazing. It's amazing.
Justin Collette
Even getting his microphone ready to go to do that. You know what I mean? Like, sound like, yeah. There's so much. Costume has to get involved. Wardrobe has to get involved. Hair.
Isabella Esler
And also, they're so calm, too. Yeah, I have seen it. I witnessed it, like, back in stage when they, like, get the note, when the swings, like, get the notice that they're on, like, mid show and they're like, okay, putting their, like.
Justin Collette
Like pink girls now I'm going, yeah.
Isabella Esler
Like, they're so, like, calm about it because they know the show, but I'm like, I would be, like, panicking hard.
Jess Trish
You all are calm, too. I saw you backstage briefly when I was trailing the show, and you're like, oh, are you having fun? I'm like, you're literally in the middle of the show. You're, like, running backstage to go do another scene, and you're like, are you having a good time? Is this fun? Like, it was so wild. I was like, you're, like the star of the show right now.
Justin Collette
Yeah. Also, I think it's weird having a normal conversation be dressed like that.
Jess Trish
As a fan. So I wish every fan could have the experience I'm having tonight because it is so surreal because I am such a fan. So to see Lydia and Beetlejuice backstage, I'm just, like, talking to me, it feels very celebrity, you know, it's very cool.
Isabella Esler
I always.
Justin Collette
I get that way when I talk to Shrunky.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
I still. I love that puppet so much. Every night that I see shrunk, I still. I laugh so funny.
Jess Trish
That's one of my favorite. Yeah, he's one of my favorite.
Isabella Esler
I guess I didn't realize how weird it is, like, how we're all dressed up like crazy backstage, and we're just like, hey, how's your morning?
Justin Collette
There's one show in Tampa where there was a fire alarm. They pulled all leave mid show. We had to be in costume. And so there's pictures of this online where all of us and everybody's in their Netherworld costumes, too. So it's like, us in, like, Beetlejuice, Lydia garb, everybody in, like, the ax and the head garb and stuff. And we're in this parking lot in Tampa surrounded by the audience. We have, like, our crew circle around us to try to stop people from coming in, but there was, like, a thousand people around us, people leaving on buses and then just us in a park.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
It made me really hyper aware that I'm in a costume right now, because I never think about it. Backstage, because everyone's in a costume, and.
Justin Collette
There are these teens, like, pushing through, and they got to bell, and they're like, how do we get to be in the show?
Isabella Esler
Yeah. So funny. That's hilarious.
Jess Trish
Treat for those people, though. Or they were scared.
Justin Collette
Sure.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
We had, like, random people. Like, there was, like, a hotel room across from us, and people, like, left the hotel room being like, who are you? Like, why are you green?
Jess Trish
Especially outside of New York, I feel like people are probably just like, if they don't know.
Justin Collette
But it was Florida, so I was like, come on.
Jess Trish
Right, right. Florida.
Justin Collette
That's the craziest thing you would expect riding a crocodile in this neighborhood.
Jess Trish
Yeah, that. I think that's, like, the fun part about it, too, is, like, just you see the characters, and you guys are also just, like, humble humans in real life, which is, like, fun, too. Any advice? Since you both already made your Broadway debut for me tonight, doing the show for the first time. Broadway debut. The jitters, the nerves. Like, how do I. Any advice?
Isabella Esler
Embrace the nerves. Because, like, that means you're excited. I mean, I'm sure you're so excited and, like, embrace the feeling. You know, you only get your Broadway debut once. And I was really, like, when I did our. When we did our first show, I was really trying to, like, take it all in, because sometimes, like, I feel like you get so nervous that you're, like, just thinking about your part, but, like, yeah, enjoy every second of it. It's gonna be really fun.
Justin Collette
Yeah. I feel like you do so much. I don't feel like you do so much, and you have so much going on in your life that I bet you're always, like, thinking about other things. But, like, tonight, I would think about nothing else.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
I would just try your hardest to be present, because it is one of the only. This is one of. This is the thing in life that, like. Like, you're gonna want to be there.
Isabella Esler
For the whole time. Yeah. And also, like, the audience is there to support you. Like, they're so excited to be good. Yeah.
Jess Trish
Yeah. I hope so.
Justin Collette
Yeah. A lot of money, you know? I mean.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, that's pressure.
Jess Trish
No, no, no.
Justin Collette
But I'm saying that, like, they want you to be good. They're on your side.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. Like, no, no.
Justin Collette
Pays 200 for a ticket. They're like, I can't wait to criticize.
Isabella Esler
They're excited, and they're there to support you, so that should, like, uplift you, you know, because they're. They're for you.
Jess Trish
Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh, my God, this is so.
Isabella Esler
Oh, no.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
And I love the show so much. I really want to make sure it's good that it's just. Yeah.
Justin Collette
I can already feel that excitement from you now. And as long as you're like that tonight, people are going to love that.
Isabella Esler
Like, that's like.
Justin Collette
That's such a good, positive vibe to have. Yeah.
Isabella Esler
And once you do the first show, you're like, okay, I got it over with. Like, I can actually do it. You know, like, it's. It's just like, the anti anticipation is so scary.
Justin Collette
Like, it's gonna be fun.
Jess Trish
You get like a. Yeah, it is funny.
Isabella Esler
Huge applause. Like, it's gonna feel magical.
Jess Trish
And I get to be with all the characters, which is really fun. That's what I was, like, really excited about.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. And we're all going to be supporting you, too.
Justin Collette
Real scene to be in. It is literally, you know, Delia in her, like, golden dress. Like, you dressed up like a. Like a doll.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jess Trish
That's one of my favorite outfits.
Isabella Esler
It is a really beautiful dress. I do love it.
Jess Trish
That's not an underrated cosplay. People don't do. Enough people do it. But I think they underrated joke in.
Justin Collette
The show is Bella's little kick she does after she spins. We all love that.
Isabella Esler
Really?
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
Can you see me do it?
Justin Collette
No. I've seen you do it in rehearsal.
Isabella Esler
Am I allowed to talk about that?
Justin Collette
Yeah, Yeah.
Isabella Esler
I don't know, because it's a magic trick.
Jess Trish
Oh, yeah. It's something I didn't know.
Justin Collette
Why didn't you just say it?
Jess Trish
I know. Yeah. I just said it now because it's something I didn't know either. And when they told me, I was. I was gagged. I was like, wait, what do you mean? Yeah, he had to say it, right?
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Isabella Esler
Spoiler. I guess you're under the table the whole time.
Justin Collette
Well, there's a promo shoot of me standing on a table. It's one of the most famous photos from it. So, like, how did you get on the table?
Jess Trish
But, like, I didn't know.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. Can you see at all? You see anything?
Justin Collette
I mean, I don't. I don't go blind. I can see, but there's not much to look at. It's at the inside of a table.
Jess Trish
You guys are athletes. You're acrobats. Really? On that stage, like, both of you. You really are. Both of you are.
Justin Collette
We are acrobats. Yeah, we are.
Jess Trish
You're, like, jumping on tables. You're catching her she's falling off. Like, it's.
Isabella Esler
It's actually a lot.
Jess Trish
So.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, we're athletes in other ways. We're not dancing nearly as much as, like, the ensemble members.
Jess Trish
It's wild to say.
Justin Collette
Yeah, the dancing is crazy.
Isabella Esler
It's crazy.
Jess Trish
But you guys dance a lot, and it's great. And I'm so excited for everyone to come see Beetlejuice. And. Oh, one final question. Wicked for Good is coming out. They did a huge movie musical, if you guys haven't heard.
Justin Collette
I've heard of this musical.
Isabella Esler
Really?
Justin Collette
We all went to see it.
Jess Trish
Is there. Did you guys all see it together?
Justin Collette
We did. We went to a theater on Thanksgiving and went to see it together in El Paso. We were in El Paso and we had this beautiful, like. Yeah, we had dinner together, this gorgeous hotel, and we. Our company manager rented us rent of the theater. We all went and watched it together.
Jess Trish
That's so fun.
Justin Collette
Really fun.
Jess Trish
I'm excited for the new one. What musical on Broadway besides Beetlejuice? The musical that would you want to see turn into a movie?
Isabella Esler
Hadestown. I think Hadestown would be a really interesting Sting movie musical.
Jess Trish
That would be good, boy.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Jess Trish
You're a big fan of that, boy.
Justin Collette
I think Bat Boy is, like, one of the underrated musicals of the last 25 years. It's like, it has this sensibility, but it did it 25 years ago.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
And I think it's like a heightened version of this. I think it's so funny. I think the music is so good and it's so crazy.
Jess Trish
Anything it could translate good to a movie.
Justin Collette
I think it would be a great, like, Evil Dead style, like, Kobe culture hit, for sure.
Isabella Esler
I think.
Justin Collette
Yeah. Really fun.
Jess Trish
You're convincing me to see it now because you talked about it off camera. On camera, like, hey, you really like it?
Justin Collette
It's so good. It's so good. And Taylor Trench is amazing. Everybody's amazing in it. Everybody's amazing. The casting is perfect. It's so great. It's brilliant. It's. It's our creative team.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Alex Tim versus Connor Gallagher did the choreography, too.
Isabella Esler
Oh, you're right.
Justin Collette
Yeah.
Jess Trish
So it's giving similar vibes.
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
It's also really, like, bizarrely heartfelt. Like our show. Show.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Go see back boy.
Jess Trish
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Yeah. Do a double feature.
Isabella Esler
No. Yeah.
Jess Trish
One day I would love to see Beetlejuice the musical turn into a movie. They did it with Mean Girls and it was great. I think it really deserves.
Isabella Esler
I think it would be cool. Yeah. Especially since it's. It's Very different. Like. Like, perspective wise. Like, it really, like, focuses more on Lydia and Beetlejuice.
Jess Trish
I think it would translate well. Beetlejuice fans, like, are so excited for any sort of adaptation, whether it's the sequel or, like the musical. I think are, like, craving more Beetlejuice. So maybe we'll manifest it. Maybe you guys. Maybe you guys will be on the screen. Maybe you guys will be the lead and I'll be so excited. They were movie stars on my couch right here. Lastly, at the tempo couch. Shout out to the tempo. By the way, Times Square and the Beetlejuice room.
Justin Collette
This room is real.
Jess Trish
First time seeing it.
Isabella Esler
His first time seeing it. I know. It's so cool.
Jess Trish
It's. It's wild because the stripes are everywhere. You guys can rent out the this room for the remainder of the show until January, which is cool. You can stay in this room, which be trippy and scary.
Isabella Esler
Yeah, a lot.
Jess Trish
But also, really.
Isabella Esler
But that's the point. You should be terrified when you're in here. Yeah.
Jess Trish
And tripping out. It's a fun vibe, right? They have, like, little snacks. Like, it's just a cool vibe when you come in here. This little, like, cookie. There's little statues, everything. It's very fun. So if you come stay at the temple, you can see Beetlejuice musical right next door at the Palace Theater. It's connected. I should have stayed there. Honestly, that should have been the hotel I'm at.
Justin Collette
We all should live at this hotel so we can be right next to work.
Isabella Esler
Oh, I thought. I thought we were gonna say, like, the entire cast in the suite. That'd be a little crowded, I think.
Justin Collette
I think it's all right.
Jess Trish
No, that's fun. It's like a Mr. Beast challenge. Like, who can stay in the Beetlejuice room?
Isabella Esler
Oh, my God.
Justin Collette
If everybody in the cast was staying in one room, who do you think you're the last person to tap? Who would stay the longest? Be able to take it? Can we.
Isabella Esler
No. Can we laugh first out? Yeah, I think you.
Justin Collette
I'd be the last one.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Justin Collette
You think I'd last the longest?
Isabella Esler
Yeah.
Justin Collette
Thank you.
Jess Trish
You embrace Beetlejuice. You are Beetlejuice.
Isabella Esler
Yes. I might leave first.
Justin Collette
I think you. Yeah, you're out first for sure.
Isabella Esler
Like, I love this place.
Justin Collette
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You walk in, you, like, bring some snacks, you walk right back out.
Isabella Esler
Like, I'll have visiting hours. Like, I like, you know, come in when needed.
Jess Trish
Just never want to leave. That's gonna be me after my three week one. I'M never gonna want to leave. I'll be like, come back. Well, I'll come back. I'll watch. I'll. I'll come back for sure. In Christmas time. That's our usual animal Beetlejuice trip. We saw it at Winter Garden. Marquee. And now this will probably come back for Christmas time, even when I'm out. But if you guys want to see me, I'm there. No. Till November 23rd. And if you want to see them, they're there till January.
Isabella Esler
January 3rd.
Justin Collette
Come see us.
Jess Trish
Yeah. Justin, Colette, Isabella Esler, Beetlejuice, and Lydia, now playing Beetlejuice the musical at the Palace Theater. See you guys.
Isabella Esler
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Thank you guys for being here. Of course.
Release Date: November 7, 2025
Host: Trisha Paytas (Jess Trish)
Guests: Justin Collette (Beetlejuice), Isabella Esler (Lydia)
Co-host Appearance: Oscar Gracey (not heard in this segment)
Location: Palace Theater, NYC – Night of Trisha’s Broadway Debut
This special episode of the "Just Trish" podcast celebrates Trisha Paytas’s Broadway debut in "Beetlejuice: The Musical." Trisha sits down with the show’s current leads, Justin Collette and Isabella Esler, to discuss their journeys with the production, the evolution from film to musical, fan culture, backstage camaraderie, and advice for newcomers to Broadway. The chat is vivacious, candid, and full of theater-insider moments, making it a must-listen for fans of musicals, Beetlejuice, or Trisha herself.
Justin’s Perspective:
Isabella’s Journey:
Trisha’s Take:
[00:46–05:25]
The trio dives into their connections with the Beetlejuice story, from first impressions to TikTok trends that spread its popularity among new theatergoers.
Origin of the Touring Cast:
Energy & Community:
[05:25–07:56]
Stories of first nights, audience excitement, and the energy of live theater in different American cities.
Character Resonance:
Backstage Rituals:
[07:56–17:39]
Insights into what it’s like to spend years embodying these characters and the importance of show community.
Beetlejuice’s Ongoing Life:
Multiple 'Beetlejuices' Internationally:
[08:18–11:10]
The ethos of passing the torch and watching how new actors interpret the iconic role.
[13:00–14:41]
Scene breakdowns, favorite numbers, and the physical demands of the show.
[19:23–23:10]
Powerful stories about the impact of live theater on fans outside big cities and the online community’s role in the Beetlejuice phenomenon.
Vocal Health Battles:
Pre-Show Rituals:
[23:10–27:07]
The inside scoop on how the cast copes with performance anxiety, stamina challenges, and voice-saving tactics.
[27:15–31:14]
The unpredictable energy of live theater and why Beetlejuice’s interactive vibe thrills performers.
[31:14–32:43]
Passionate endorsements for Beetlejuice as an entry point for new theater fans.
Isabella’s Start:
Justin’s Unconventional Path:
On Understudies and Swings:
Advice for Trisha’s Broadway Debut:
[34:26–46:12]
Relatable, encouraging stories about breaking into the business, coping with nerves, and the backstage family spirit.
[48:01–49:48]
[49:48–end]
| Segment | Timestamps | |-----------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Beetlejuice’s Broadway journey & evolution | 00:46–05:25 | | Touring reflections, fan connections | 05:25–07:56 | | Character connections & backstage life | 07:56–17:39 | | Beetlejuice fandom & actor experiences | 08:18–11:10 | | Favorite numbers & ensemble shoutouts | 13:00–14:41 | | Accessibility, TikTok, and fan stories | 19:23–23:10 | | Vocal care, show stamina, pre-show rituals | 23:10–27:07 | | Audience engagement, hecklers, stage chaos | 27:15–31:14 | | Why Beetlejuice is a great intro to Broadway | 31:14–32:43 | | Backstories, career paths, advice for newcomers | 34:26–46:12 | | Wishes for a Beetlejuice movie/other adaptations | 48:01–49:48 | | Hotel, cast camaraderie, fun close | 49:48–end |
The mood is informal, supportive, and enthusiastic. Trisha’s awe and giddy excitement as both a podcast host and a new cast member is infectious. Justin and Isabella are gracious, warm, and full of playful banter—a testament to their real-life camaraderie. Fans will love the genuine affection between the guests and the host, the storehouse of Broadway lore, and the behind-the-scenes perspective.
To see Justin, Isabella, or Trisha live, catch Beetlejuice at the Palace Theater through January 3rd, 2026!