Dan and Phil CONFIRM PHAN is REAL!!! + Trisha Defends Britney Spears from Ex Kevin Federline

Summary

Just Trish – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Dan and Phil CONFIRM PHAN is REAL!!! + Trisha Defends Britney Spears from Ex Kevin Federline
Date: October 16, 2025
Host: Trisha Paytas
Guests/Co-hosts: Callie Paytas, Moses, Lena Paytas

Overview

This episode of "Just Trish" centers on iconic YouTube duo Dan and Phil finally confirming their 16-year romantic relationship, unpacking the cultural significance and personal implications of their coming out. The episode also sees Trisha fiercely defending Britney Spears against her ex Kevin Federline’s planned tell-all book, and delivers the show's signature blend of pop culture commentary, personal anecdotes, and spirited tangents.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Dan and Phil Confirming “Phan”

[00:00–02:00, 85:15–94:00]

• Big News: British YouTube duo Dan and Phil publicly revealed they've been a romantic couple since 2009, affectionately dubbed “Phan” by their fanbase.
• Trisha & Callie React: Both express joy and relief that Dan and Phil can finally live openly, discussing the pressure of hiding a relationship in the public eye.
• Dan's Therapy Insight: Trisha shares a revelation from Dan’s video—his own therapist pointed out he might have been comfortable staying in the closet, which triggered deeper self-reflection for him.
  • Trisha (87:55): “His therapist was like, ‘I think you like being in the closet.’ And he had to, like, really think about it.”
• Impact of Keeping Secrets: The group reflects on the pain of suppressing one’s identity, especially due to family or career fears.
  • Trisha (88:36): “It’s so sad that they thought their career would be ruined, their mental health was ruined, like all this stuff, if someone thought they were dating...”
• Community Commentary: They critique those online who “always knew” and say that’s missing the point—it’s about Dan and Phil’s process, not fans’ suspicions.
• Broader LGBTQ Acceptance: Trisha and Callie voice hopes for a future where coming out isn’t necessary. Trisha poignantly notes friends still closeted into their 40s and 50s because of family.
  • Trisha (89:20): “Any relationship can be complicated...but think about if you have a family that would just like, disown you... it’s such a real thing.”

2. Trisha Defends Britney Spears from Kevin Federline

[35:24–46:37]

• Federline’s Tell-All Book: Kevin Federline is publishing a memoir focusing on Britney’s mental health struggles and family drama, following the end of his child support payments.
  • Trisha (35:35): “No, just Britney. Just her struggles with mental health. Her story. Her story you're making money off of.”
• Trisha’s Fierce Defense: Trisha is livid, calling Kevin’s book opportunistic and harmful, especially for involving Britney’s children’s perspectives in public discourse.
  • Trisha (36:03): “If there is an issue that you know about—just know about it. The world doesn’t need to know.”
• Personal Reflections: Trisha draws parallels between public misrepresentations of Britney and her own experiences with people embellishing stories due to her past mental health struggles.
• Callie and Moses Echo Support: Moses specifically blames Federline for contributing to Britney’s distress by taking her children away, highlighting the harm of parental alienation.
• Discussion of Conservatorships: The group criticizes the disproportionate use of conservatorships on women in entertainment, citing examples of Wendy Williams and asking why equivalent actions aren’t taken for troubled men in the industry.
  • Trisha (47:33): “It’s always like these women making all this money… Where’s Kanye’s conservatorship?”

3. Media and Social Media Influence

[14:11–34:02]

• Trisha as an Influencer: Trisha discusses her inclusion in The Hollywood Reporter’s “50 Most Influential Creators” list, expressing a mix of surprise and pride, and reflecting on her longevity and impact.
  • Trisha (14:58): “I never consider myself influential… I feel like funny, entertainer, come to a show, I'm great… but they trust me, they know I’m authentic.”
• Conversations about Platform Preferences: The group debates which platforms they could or couldn’t live without, with Callie picking TikTok and Trisha echoing its importance to her.
• Authenticity and Sponsored Content: Trisha jokes she’ll never plug a brand she doesn’t genuinely like, sharing a story of refusing a lucrative sandwich sponsorship.

4. Pop Culture & Celebrity Hot Takes

[57:01–83:50]

• Skims “Furry Thongs” and Nipple Bras: Discussion turns to the viral Skims launch of faux pubic hair thongs and the earlier “nipple bra” drop, with Trisha and Callie celebrating the normalization and humor in these products.
  • Trisha (57:19): “Look, there’s a lot of things to just hate on overall with Kardashians… but skims is like the feminist brand, it’s for the women, by the women.”
• Kardashians & Parenting Double Standards: Trisha critiques Kim Kardashian for praising Tristan Thompson’s parenting despite his history of neglecting some of his children—contrasting this with the scrutiny on Kanye.
  • Trisha (66:59): “The father can do the bare minimum and get called a great father.”
• New Music from Kylie Jenner: Brief reviews and speculating if Kylie’s “Fourth Strike” references Timothée Chalamet.
• Upcoming TV Shows: Hype for Ryan Murphy’s new show with Kim and Sarah Paulson, plus praise for Niecy Nash’s serious turn.

5. Show Business and Commerce

[02:13–09:20, 101:05–104:47]

• Trisha’s Upcoming Broadway Debut: Trisha announces her debut in the Broadway production of “Beetlejuice” at The Palace Theater in NY (Nov 4-23), and her excitement for new projects and Trishmas Live tour.
• Family Poshmark Hustle: Lena, Trisha’s mom, details her dedicated shipping efforts and tips fans on bundling items to save on postage.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Dan & Phil’s Coming Out:
  Trisha (88:36): “I hope one day no one even has to come out... Like, who cares? And I hope we get there, because it’s so sad..."
• On Kevin Federline’s Book:
  Trisha (36:03): “And if there is an issue that you know about, how about you just know about it? The world doesn’t need to know.”
• On Pop Culture’s Double Standards:
  Trisha (66:59): “The father can do the bare minimum, and you get called a great father. That’s wild.”
• On Being an Influencer:
  Moses (18:08): “But with you, I think you’re the only person people watched as they grew up and you grew up in real time... so there’s something people see and learn familiar, but hopefully positive.”
• On Skims Viral Thongs:
  Trisha (57:19): “Skims is like the feminist brand—it’s for the women, by the women.”
• On Conservatorships and Gender:
  Trisha (47:33): “It’s always like these women that are making all this money… Where’s Kanye’s conservatorship?”

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Noteworthy Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Event | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Episode launches into Dan & Phil relationship bombshell | | 35:24 | Start of Britney Spears vs. Kevin Federline discussion | | 46:37 | Critique of conservatorships and power imbalances in entertainment | | 57:01 | Skims “furry thong” conversation—normalizing and laughing at viral fashion moments | | 66:59 | Trisha and Callie dissect Tristan Thompson “great dad” narrative | | 85:15 | Revisit of Dan & Phil topic and cultural legacy | | 87:55 | Dan’s therapist quote about “liking the closet” | | 89:01 | Trisha’s commentary on LGBTQ+ coming out, family, and internalized fear | | 101:05 | Broadway (Beetlejuice) updates and Poshmark/merch hustle with Lena | | 104:47 | Lena’s segment: breast cancer awareness, Arby’s partnership, Las Vegas recap, Dancing With The Stars|

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Tone and Personality

• Trisha is unfiltered, humorous, and emotionally candid, sharing everything from hot takes on celebrity parents to heartfelt commentary supporting LGBTQ+ visibility and mental health awareness.
• The group banter is playful and tangential, moving rapidly from deep social insights to product reviews and family antics.
• Personal moments are woven throughout—Trisha’s pride in her mother’s hard work, sibling harmonizing, and tap dancing routines bring warmth and relatability.

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Conclusion

This episode epitomizes "Just Trish": funny, raw, and pop-culture obsessed, but also fiercely supportive of personal authenticity. The hosts celebrate Dan and Phil’s long-hidden romance with genuine enthusiasm, lambast exploitative exes in the media, and aren’t afraid to critique celebrity culture. As always, the Paytas family’s behind-the-curtain antics and unwavering support for each other ground all the pop-culture chaos in real-life heart.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

Yay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll sing about it. Weeping softly into my iced coffee and dry the tears with sun on my face With a sun on my face.

[Callie Paytas]

No, you have to go on the third one. Go high.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. With the sun on my face with the sun on my face with the sun on my face.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that was good. That's our favorite song to harmonize.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, we haven't done that in a minute.

[Moses]

Or the intro for the episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the intro. Her eyes. Her eyes make the suns look that way.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, God.

[Trisha Paytas]

The mashup.

[Callie Paytas]

When I see your face. But I was like, take a chance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Take a chance.

[Callie Paytas]

Take a chance.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, this is like.

[Callie Paytas]

That was Take a chance on. Take a chance on Me. I'm the first in line. Take a chance on me. And then you would be like, the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whole world stops and stares for a while because you're amazing.

[Callie Paytas]

I can't do it anymore. It's been so long since we did that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Eyes. Really?

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if that's the right mashup.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah, I remember it.

[Trisha Paytas]

First in line, really.

[Moses]

Okay. Hello.

[Trisha Paytas]

Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. It is a beautiful day in the neighborhood. A beautiful day in the neighborhood. Won't you be my sister? Co host today? Always. You look beautiful.

[Callie Paytas]

You look like me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you.

[Callie Paytas]

I'm. Every time I wear this, I get a lot of. You look like your mom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like the bangs. Yeah, the bangs. You do look like.

[Callie Paytas]

I always put this on. Like, oh, I bet you're jealous of these bangs, aren't you?

[Trisha Paytas]

And Mom's like, yes, do my bangs like that. Well, she'll be here later in the episode. It's like when you switched One time there was a comment that was like, I didn't even realize that Callie and Lana were a different person. Like, that. It was just like the same episode with the same person.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, that was weird too, because, like, she had just came in and then like, she kind of just took over. I'm like, oh, I guess my time is done here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Right. I didn't really have an exit was enough. Right. You didn't get to say goodbye. Well, we'll get to say goodbye this.

[Callie Paytas]

Time, hopefully, because I feel like she's going to come in and do the same thing over again.

[Trisha Paytas]

We don't have the Arby's ambush, which we love an Arby's ambush. But my sister, we're going to do an interview with her after the podcast today. And if you want to see that interview, go on over to our Patreon. It'll air in November and we're gonna do a full on sit down Cali interview. Where did you come from? How did you get started? Who's your family? And there's just so much. Yeah, there's lore.

[Moses]

So many unknown. Who's your mom? Who's your sister?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we know that, but there's so much lore. So going over to patreon.com trish we also do our bonus episodes over there. And my sister and I also today will be doing the CVS shopping challenge that me and Oscar did last week and we're gonna do that for each other because I love going to CVS and I love shopping. And we're on a tiger boycott at the moment. So there's that, you guys. A black hoodies we're all wearing today. We got the black hoodies@just trish.com with the. Yes. With the sparkle hoodie rope and the disco ball hood inside. It's. I got a lot of compliments. I wore this entire sweatsuit and it comes with matching pants. I got a ton of compliments on this. I love it. My mom shipped out, what, 65 orders, I think, this morning. So thank you guys for them. We love them. My mom loves shipping them out. She truly does. And I'm not saying that sarcastically. She's like, I need to get these hoodies right away. As soon as they came in, she like comes over right away. So get [e-mail] today has matching sweatpants. Also, if you want to see me live, I am performing, Baby, just call me the life of a Showgirl. I will be in New York. I will be in New York for three weeks performing Beetlejuice. November 4th through the 23rd at the Palace Theater. I am super excited. It's my first official Broadway debut with production, with budget, with the ridiculously talented cast. Justin Collette as Beetlejuice, Isabel Essler as Lydia. And it's just really exciting. I can't wait to go and perform. I have an iconic scene. I'm in the day o scene. Just. I just wait. I. I've been, I've been already practicing. I mean, I have to rehearse too, but I've already been practicing. It's going to be amazing. So that'll be my last time. I'll be in New York. This year is at The Palace Theater. November 4th through the 23rd. Beatle Juice on Broadway. It's returned the third time on Broadway. Third time's a charm. Say my name three times and I'll be there. So I can't wait to see you guys there. I'll be at all the matinee shows as well on Wednesday and Saturday as well as the evening shows. But if you're not in New York and you're in one of these seven cities, go to Trishmas Live 2025. We have an all new, brand new show this. This year. We're in a lot of. We're in a lot of California because, you know, I just had a baby and I'm like, let's, let's stay somewhat local. We're doing Long Beach, Thousand Oaks, which will have the opening act of Sad Boy 2005, which a new song will be debuting live instruments. The whole band will be there. You'll see it first. Our first ever live performance, actually. Sad Boy 2005 will be in Long beach, so you'll want to be there. We also have surprise performances in the actual Trishma show as special guests. So come there. And then we'll be in San Francisco, New York, New Jersey, Washington, D.C. philadelphia, Pennsylvania and Vancouver. Vancouver is basically sold out. I don't even know if we have tickets left. That one, that one is like, canada loves you. I love Canada. Maybe I should do a Canadian tour. Because everyone's like, what about Edmonton and Calgary and Toronto? I was like, I, I know. I said to 4000 Oaks. And everyone thought it was Toronto, which you're probably right. That is probably the.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, a lot of people call Thousand Oaks.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I know. So the grand scheme of things that the world knows to is Toronto, but we're just going to Vancouver. I heard it's lovely. Home of Pamela Anderson. Everyone that came to, like Utah, Seattle, even la, they're all like, I'm from Vancouver, but I came down this way. So we had to do one for the. The Vancouver ins out there. And I'm really excited for that too. Like I said, all brand new show, new holiday music. It is going to be a gag. My.

[Callie Paytas]

I'm so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so excited too. In fact, we actually went to a tap dance class this morning to rehearse for it. Oh, fun.

[Callie Paytas]

I always wanted to tap dance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you never.

[Callie Paytas]

I mean, not like I've taken a class.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you never did.

[Callie Paytas]

We've had the tap shoes growing up.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I just like, right. The little kid tap shoes. I swear I took one. But maybe at like J and J when I was like, really little, because I did. And the mom tapped in the Emily Follies because I showed her our little. What was her training? Yeah, how did she learn? Did she have any training? Well, she was doing it. She did that. There's a brand new view. I'm taking you to 42nd Street. She's that one. And I was like, she's gonna. And I showed her the clip that we're tapping. And Mom's like, oh, that's easy. All right. Okay. So we did a tap dance class. We went full out. You tap too?

[Moses]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow. We're tapping in unison today. We were out and about at 9am tapping. Wow. Yep. And then we had to do our taxes. We did a lot this morning.

[Callie Paytas]

No, we did a lot this morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tapping, taxes. Glam bus. Another bus. Patreon. It's just never ending. But it's wonderful.

[Lena Paytas]

But it's good, love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Being busy. Love. Even. Like, we went until like 8 o' clock last night, just going, going, going, you know, with the girls and their slime. We were making slime last night to like 9pm really? We're done with dinner and Malibu's like slime. And I was gone in the morning. Tuesday's our day off. And I was like, well, all right. I was gone in Tuesday morning. So Tuesday night I was like, all right, we're playing till. Playing till 9pm we went full out.

[Callie Paytas]

I came over to pick up the headshots and I. I think he was gone.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Moses is leaving. That's why I said he.

[Callie Paytas]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he was gone. Yes.

[Callie Paytas]

And I was like, maybe I should just sneak in because, like, maybe if I. If they see me, I might have to stay longer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Callie Paytas]

But then I was like, okay, well, no one's coming to greet me, so this is my perfect chance to just get it and Go. But then I thought, because Malibu always hides when you come in, I'm like, what if she's hiding and I never found her?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think someone would be there to help guide in case she's just hiding forever.

[Callie Paytas]

It would be crazy, but that would be so sad. I'm like, I hope I didn't break.

[Trisha Paytas]

That little one's heart. No, no, no. She was playing and having.

[Callie Paytas]

Thank God she didn't even realize that I was there.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you popped in and out. Yes. There's new headshots on patreon.com gestures. They're not in the new. Oh, he did. He did frame them. Oh, my favorite wig.

[Callie Paytas]

I love that. Oh, my God. You love that wig.

[Trisha Paytas]

I took them the same day. It was the same. The same same day. Oh, right. You can't get that one anymore. But the Beetlejuice headshots, the one of me and the Beetlejuice outfit, those will be available now, because now we've already shipped them all out. You have until the 10th to sign up. They ship out on or around the 15th, and I will be signing them before I go to New York. So you guys get them on time. Yay. That is that. Also, check out the Holly Reporter. I made the 50 most influential creators.

[Callie Paytas]

Yay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses thought I was, like, down on the list, which is fine. Honestly. I'm take number 50.

[Callie Paytas]

I don't care.

[Trisha Paytas]

The fact that I'm on the list. But they're not. They're not numerical order. They're alphabetical because they. Oh, you're right after Taylor Figgie Paul, and right above Trixie Mattel. And I was like, well, we are the T's. That would be alphabetical order, but they're.

[Callie Paytas]

Doing it by the first letter, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Yeah, because it's like Alex, Earl, Alex Kasani. They were, like, at the top. I mean, I always wanted, like, both the T and the P are the middle, so it's not like, yeah, you're at the end or the middle. Oh, gosh. I'm, like, so hungry. Should we take a break for a minute or no. Or just take a break. Oh, gosh, you guys. It felt like we just did a whole podcast. Go on over to patreon.com. we ate some chicken and biscuits, and it was so good. And I was gonna eat on the podcast, but it was like, people like when you eat on the podcast, I was like, all right, let's eat on the Patreon. So if you guys want to go over there, we're doing lots of extended videos over There lots of fun bonus videos for you guys. So check it out. We had a good lengthy conversation. We had some Moses Hot Topics. We had some chicken and Chill. And we're back and I feel so much better, maybe because I have sweet tea. Usually I have unsweetened tea. I think that sweet tea is just. Did you have some of yours?

[Callie Paytas]

I did have some of mine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pretty good. I like a sweet tea. I think. I think I could survive in the South. Little sweet tea. It's delicious. I do feel very hyped from it too. Maybe it's the chicken, but that biscuit.

[Callie Paytas]

That biscuit was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, that butter biscuit. You eat all your biscuit.

[Moses]

The fact that I ate half of it, because usually I don't even touch them. But it was like buttery and it's. Is it corn or is it not? No, because it reminded me of cornbread a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. No, that wasn't a cornbread. I don't know. It was just a buttermilk biscuit. I would assume it was good. It was really good. I love. And it was dry. You don't love it dry. I knew you too, you wanted gravy. But we had dry.

[Callie Paytas]

It was like moist, though. Not like I was going to choke on it, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I do. And sometimes I do love to. I've been chewing better, thanks to my girls. I watch Elvis and Malibu chew and I'm like, I need to chew better and well. Because Elvis specifically has been treating very well lately because she used to swallow like me. She's like, swallow just like a whole noodle. And we're like, oh, chew that girl. So now I got you. And she left. So now I'm like, you know what? I should probably chew better because she's obviously. And then Matthew will chew for days too.

[Moses]

So it definitely helps digest it. Digestion.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yesterday when I seen those noodles, I was just like swallowing them whole like a freaking snake and a bunny. I was just like. It was making me like choke a little too. I was like, I need a chill on the way I'm eating sometimes. But chew, digest.

[Callie Paytas]

Wait, do you drink water or like some sort of beverage in between your always shoes?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, always. Do you?

[Callie Paytas]

I do. Because I think that's normal. No, that is not normal.

[Trisha Paytas]

And our girls love water. They want to sip after each bite. Like, what do you mean you're eat your whole meal and not drink anything? Nothing.

[Moses]

It's so weird because it's like two different things. I don't know how to explain water, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Water is no taste.

[Moses]

I don't know. I don't. And I think even my grandpa used to say, like, not to drink while you eat. And then after also something with digestion. But I don't know. But I. I'm just not used to drinking while I eat. Unless something is really dry or spicy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I need like every sip. Like we were drinking iced tea. Like you're drinking it now or what are you drinking now? You're drinking naked juice. What is that?

[Moses]

No, it's acai.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where did you get that? That's so rhythm. We never have drinks like that around here.

[Moses]

You just pick it up. I always have this one.

[Callie Paytas]

But yeah, I think that's so weird. I need to like cleanse my palate every once in a while between bites.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like mine's almost every. That's why I was like, I can't.

[Callie Paytas]

Have a meal without a drink.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. I bring in 3 cups of water when we sit down for dinner. I have my big cup, which the girls drink out of sometimes and then get one for each of them because everybody wants to drink so much friggin water as a normal person would do. But let us know in the comments.

[Moses]

Below because I'm the opposite. At the end of the meal, I have to cleanse my mouth. Like I can't have the taste of food, which is so weird to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

He wants like to like get the taste out of his mouth.

[Callie Paytas]

No, I want that to linger a little bit.

[Moses]

Me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had sweating bolognese. I want to taste it in my.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, I need to add my mouth. He's like, what? Yeah, okay. So weird. I don't know. What's the point? What is the point?

[Moses]

When I eat the food. That's what I'm saying.

[Callie Paytas]

When I eat chocolate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think the same thing?

[Callie Paytas]

You have to cleanse that out of.

[Moses]

Your mouth or you'll probably drink water after. Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does like a chocolate. Little chocolate surprise. Very odd. Before we took our little break, I Talked about the 50 most influential influencers from the Hollywood Reporter. And I'm very. I was very happy to be on this list. And I will tell you, I straight up, like we always speculated and maybe some people, like, I don't know, maybe not. Like, you know, certain people submit them, whatever. This one just came to my public email that I rarely check. I have like a Yahoo address that's out there. Actually, you know what? It didn't even come to that. It came to like someone at YouTube, like a YouTube Music Manager. Because I was Seeing all the forwarding happening and they're like, I don't represent Trisha, but I can try someone else. Like, I don't represent a red try. And then someone found my, like, public and like, well, here's her public one. So the Hollywood Reporter was like, reached out and they're like, you're one of our 50 most influential. I had to look to see if it was a scam. I'm like, that can't be right.

[Callie Paytas]

That's insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is cool because I never make those lists. And like, I've been around like 20 years. I don't. And I think that's great. I never consider myself, like, influential. I consider myself funny. Entertainer, come to a show, I'm great. Beetlejuice Live, you know, I have a good personality. I feel influential is a whole other level. Like, did I influence you to eat some chicken and biscuits?

[Callie Paytas]

Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't think of myself that way, you know?

[Callie Paytas]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really, I do.

[Callie Paytas]

But actually, Arby's. I've seen so many tiktokers that are like, this is my first time at Arby's. I'm like, okay, yes, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love an Arby's. I almost was like, mom, do you want to pick up Arby's? I just wanted to think, she has to pick up Arby's every time she comes here. Hence why we got the chicken and biscuits. But I was craving an Arby's.

[Callie Paytas]

Would have had some steak bites.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you went, you didn't ask anyone.

[Callie Paytas]

You just said, I'm ordering this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it was like we just started and I just felt really like, like, girl, eat before. But I didn't have time this morning. It was taxes and tap dancing and I had no, no time because even in that we would like to stop by in n out. But it just was like felt very rushed this morning as you said stated earlier. I mean, Jimmy, I guess you couldn't insert that clip. I was like, jimmy, take out the clip of us bickering. I was like, I feel rushed. I'm like, I'm not rushing you, but I was kind of rushing you. So I gaslighted you and I apologize, but thank you. Also, the Hollywood Reporter asked for selfies and I took one like at the. But they never even used my selfie, so I don't know why I took it. I was at the cab asses comment.

[Callie Paytas]

I should look at which one they used then.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was just like a getty image one from my me at the Empire State Building.

[Callie Paytas]

By the way, I Have to say your new headshots are chef kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, wow, we did take them. Knowing that I was going to be in New York, in the theater, I.

[Callie Paytas]

Was thinking, is that what inspired the turtleneck?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'm like, I'm an actor. I have a great background.

[Callie Paytas]

I was giving Broadway actors.

[Moses]

She just finished, you know, a class of improv.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

It was giving your guys special when. What was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it the Kate Bushworld?

[Moses]

The Kate Bush one. What?

[Callie Paytas]

Not better, but better.

[Trisha Paytas]

This one to me, I'm thinking Marilyn Monroe when she went to New York, she wore all black. Like, it's Emma's serious now. You are serious.

[Callie Paytas]

I loved it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Blowout, no extensions. I'm like, don't even put extensions. Tea. Yeah. I was turtleneck.

[Callie Paytas]

I saw it.

[Trisha Paytas]

The great backdrop in our garage.

[Callie Paytas]

I was like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

People were gagged. They're like, okay, I was gagged.

[Callie Paytas]

I was like, wow, she looks good here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, because, like all, like, press releases and stuff, they always ask for a headshot. My last round was, like, pregnant, and I liked it. I looked good, but my nose was, like, a little more swollen, so let me retake these. I love a headshot.

[Callie Paytas]

That's great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And the Hollywood Reporter used one from New York, which is great because that was. I was in my little Sharpay outfit. Then they asked me like, 20 questions. Like, the Hollywood Reporter was like, we're gonna ask you questions. And you know what? Let me tell you what, those questions, like, there were so many. I'm gonna take me one minute to get it.

[Moses]

The thing is with the. Because when I see TikToks and people talk about you, all they talk about is how you raise them. They were influenced by you. They, like, people have watched you for a long time. So I would say you influenced them more than an actor on the movie. Yeah, like an actor in a movie. I watch a movie. I watch that. I'm like, oh, great acting. Liked it. Bye. Forgot about you. Don't know you. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, for sure, though.

[Moses]

But with you, I think you're the only person that has been that they watched as they grow up and you grow up real time for a long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they trust. They trust me. They're like, oh.

[Moses]

And I think, you know, there might have been a few other people out at the. At that time, but most of them, I was just crashed to the ground. So. Okay, so, no, but I'm saying, like. Like, you always say, like, where are these people? Where are those people? You know, people that have vlogged daily. People that have been documenting their lives have disappeared. But in your case it kept going and it got better. So at least, so there's something that people see and learn, familiar, but also hopefully and positive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Moses]

You know, so there's that aspect also.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's certain people you just trust, right? Like you just see, you see my body tea and you're like, oh, I know that girl knows what food is good. You know what I mean? Like, you know, like I'm picky, but they're like, oh, if Trisha likes the mozzarella sticks to Arby's, they're probably actually good. And this is why I'll never take, you know, I talk about this all the time. There was like a sandwich company that wanted to offer me like a bunch of money to eat like their sandwiches. And I was like, I just can't. Like it's inauthentic to me and my friend. And this is a very popular one. I feel like everybody loves their sandwich. I'm like, I love those sandwiches. I'm like, but like it just like I couldn't even imagine trying to take a bite for the camera. I'd probably, you know what I mean?

[Callie Paytas]

You know what you tried to for your sad boy music video. Couldn't even do that. What the Hilton like car scene.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes. I was like, do not put that cheese on my cheeseburger. Same thing with the Eminem video. I ate a cheeseburger and I ate a cheese on a cheeseburger, which is because I love grilled cheese.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, you don't even like lettuce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the catch, tomato, all that. That was crazy. And it was cold for the M&M one and they made me eat a cold burger like 20 times. And they actually eat it because they do a time lapse of me like chewing it down. Thank you so much to Kickoff for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Let's start building that credit today with Kickoff, you may be thinking, Trish, why do I need credit? Why do you need credit? Let me tell you as a grown, a 37 year old woman, I just recently discovered this in the past few years. So let me tell you, in your 20s, building credit makes all the difference. Why? Well, if you're taking out a big loan for anything, you want to get the best interest rates possible. Otherwise you're just paying so much. For instance, you're buying $100,000 home. Sometimes interest rates can make it a million dollar home. Goes with a lot of things. Loans for cash houses, car payments. It can go for so many things. Credit is important. You may think, well, I'm not. Verdict. I had a credit card, I don't have to have credit at all. Then it's good. No, no. Credit is also bad credit. Okay? If you're new to credit or even to the USA and you want to establish credit, building credit with Kickoff is a good way to go. About that. Newsflash. It's been over 16 years since the federal minimum wage was raised to $7.25. Company productivity has doubled while our wallets have not. One in five of us don't even qualify for a basic credit card. It feels like the system is broken and we deserve to be able to get an apartment, house or car just like our parents. Good. That's where Kickoff comes in. Kickoff is easy to use, easy to sign up, and you can start building your credit and building it fast. Kickoff delivers real results for real users. Users with credit under 600 grew an average of 84 points in their first year with on time payments. With transparent affordable plans Starting at just $5 a month, no hidden fees and zero interest, Kickoff helps you score big when it comes to credit. It's simple. You make on time payments Credit bureau see good behavior and your credit can grow fast. This is also very important. Those on time payments I destroyed my credit my early 20s. One, I didn't have enough money but two, later on when I finally had the money to pay my bills, I just forgot. Oops. The 15th. The first whatever date you have set rolled around and you just forgot to pay it. With Kickoff you can set automatic withdrawal so you'd never have to think about those payments. And you can just build credit literally in your sleep with the Premium or ultimate plan. The rent reporting feature helps you build credit with the rent you already pay. Plus only positive on time rent payments get reported to help boost your credit. Kickoff is affordable, easy and effective. Start building credit immediately for only $1 on your first month. Set up autopay so you never have to worry about missing a payment. And sign up in minutes from your phone. No credit check, no hidden fees and no interest. We love to see it. Kickoff is safe and a trusted credit Solution with over 1 million users and hundreds of thousands of positive reviews. There's a reason why Kickoff is the number one credit builder app on the App Store. Start building credit with Kickoff today and get your first month for as little as $1. That's 80% off the Norma when you go to getkickoff.com Trish today. That's kickoff without the C get K-I K-O-F F.com Trish must sign up via getkickoff.com Trish to activate offer. Offer applies to new Kickoff customers first month only. Subject to approval. Office subject to change. Average first year credit score impacted plus 84 points. Vantage score 3.0 between January 2023 and January 2024 for kickoff credit account users who started with a score below 600, who paid on time, and who had no delinquencies or collections added to their credit profile during the period. Late payments may negatively impact your credit score. Individual results may vary. Thank you so much to Kickoff for sponsoring today's episode. Wanted to, like, if it was like a burger, like, I would have eaten all day. But I guess I wanted to have them. But I would say, like, it's like, yeah, what I was thinking, like, influence. I think of Alex Earl, like, if she has something, I'm like, oh, I'm buying this. You know what I mean? But I love that.

[Moses]

And then all the, like, for example, when you see bedazzled stuff, right? Like, even look like, look at blinged up. And now everybody is bling. Like Arby's. Like, bring your blinged cup to Vegas. Like, it's a. Like, you have so many signatures out there as far as style and thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, even Arby's, I think, had her bling up more stuff that wasn't mine because I saw a boxes that I got a Kleenex boxes at Hot Girls Eat Arby's and blinked up, posted it. So I think she like, blinged up stuff for them, which is cool. And even like, other ones, like Wingstop had her, like, bling out a bag and like that. Yeah, it's really cool.

[Callie Paytas]

Shout out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bling Up. I love bling. I love her too. She's also so sweet.

[Callie Paytas]

So sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will never forget her coming up to me literally 10 years ago at the Hollywood Horror Nights. Not horror nights, but the one that was like the Hayride Holland. Oh, yeah, the Haunted Hayride. And I remember her, like, like she knew I was there. So she brought like, these like, puma furry slides and then she bedazzled them and they were like, the coolest thing I've ever seen. She's like, oh, my God, like, Trish, like, I've been trying to get you these slides. Like, I bling stuff. And I was like, oh, my gosh. And now she does stuff for, like, Paris Hilton all the time. Like outfits and microphone stands and all these companies. Chloe. I think she did the air freshener for her. I was like, love to see it.

[Callie Paytas]

I do too.

[Trisha Paytas]

She deserves it. Yes, it's fun. But, oh, questions they had, they asked me and I got it right the end of the deadline because they were like, literally so many people. Someone at Google and then someone at YouTube and then some. Like, everyone's like, they're like, hi, thanks for moving in with this person. Like, just all these names, I don't know, they're like looping in Trisha's contact from her Instagram bio. Like, literally just trying to find me. Anyways, so I was like, hey, just got this. Hopefully I'm not too late. So then I sent him, like, a list of all the questions. And so, my God, it's like, way down this, like, list. So it was just like, what social platform could you never live without? And what platform would you love to give up? Oh, do you have one answer for me? Couldn't live without. Yeah, for you? Couldn't live without and could never give up.

[Callie Paytas]

I could live without Instagram.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Over X. I can live without X. I might leave X. I don't even have X. So I guess that's okay. Okay.

[Callie Paytas]

That's not even an option in my brain because I don't even have it, so. Okay, well, I'll do Twitter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yes, Twitter. That's where we're at. Let's not call it X. I'm with everybody. It's Twitter.

[Callie Paytas]

So stupid. What are you going to say? I asked out, I exit out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. No, it doesn't.

[Callie Paytas]

I tweeted out today. It doesn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry, I'm over Twitter, but kind of live without.

[Callie Paytas]

Twitch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Over TikTok.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah. Because TikTok's kind of flopping. I've been getting stuff from like, July, like my for you page. I'm like, what's going on?

[Trisha Paytas]

You gotta reset it. Like, shut it out and reset it and come back up.

[Callie Paytas]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

No reset.

[Callie Paytas]

I do like Tick Tock, but more so Twitch, because that's what I stream on.

[Trisha Paytas]

So check out caviator143 on Twitch. I just could not survive, like, that 16 hour band we had earlier this year. Like, it was crazy. I felt like a crazy person trying to check my app all the time. And then we had Hot Topics coming up and I was like, how will I know anything? What's going on in the world? Like, I truly. Like, it was. It was awful and I was, like, anxious. I hated it so much. Like, when it came back, I was like, no, no. Like, it Just felt like the biggest relief ever. Like, it didn't feel real. I was like, thank goodness. Like, I honestly, like, could not live without Tick Tock. I mean, I could live, but wouldn't want to. Right, Right. And then the other questions were the person. Oh, that's the one they ended up using. But the other ones were like, the craziest place I filmed content. The craziest place I've looked at social media. One thing about I missed my life before I was a creator. And what has been. What has most surprised you about being a creator? And then the other one was the person whose social media account I'd love to run for a day. So all my answers were like, oh. I said, oh, you know what I said? I said, I can and do live without Snapchat. It's for pervs. That's what I wrote.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Oh, we could do that one too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Snapchat. No, thank you.

[Callie Paytas]

They're charging now to keep your memories, I guess, like pictures that you take. Yeah, they're charging if you want to keep them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That's like a scam to me.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Must be really hurting financially. Or now they're charging the pervs to keep their photos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly, exactly. They do weird clickbait anyways. They were paying the worst kind of people. Weird clickbait, too.

[Callie Paytas]

Like, girls, those stories or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, okay, yeah, it was. I just remember them, like, paying everybody to be on there. And I was like, the worst people was like, awesome McBroom and David Dobrik on there. And I was like, okay. Craziest place I filmed content. I did. I didn't have an answer. I said, kill Bill Church. Craziest place I've looked at social content. The Monk Monastery up here at St. Francis. When I was with my dad looking at the monastery. Okay. I was on Twitter back then. Thing I miss about life. About before. Before creator, nothing. Missed nothing about life.

[Callie Paytas]

I was gonna say, I don't think that you had an answer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Saved me and surprised about being creator. How long it's lasted. I was like 19 years since my first YouTube video and counting.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they didn't put that in there. They put in. They only put the one. They put social media account. I'd love to run. Who would you say for you?

[Callie Paytas]

For me? Oh, God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oof.

[Callie Paytas]

I don't know. That's really hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? There's not, like, someone that, like, you love or even a brand that you love or, like, who would you want to take over?

[Callie Paytas]

Maybe Britney Spears.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, that's a good one.

[Callie Paytas]

Because really, I get to direct the content too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, of course. You curate whatever you want.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Okay. You could really bring her.

[Moses]

Yeah. You really should not dance in this hallway. Dance in this doorway.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you though, she kind of has it nailed. She is kind of great at creating that. She is just the lighting.

[Callie Paytas]

She kind of gives me you vibes like just putting out whatever you want, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I try to copy everything for.

[Moses]

The longest time when we moved to this house. Because this house kind of similar to hers. Like, okay, I gotta do it in this doorway. Our bathroom.

[Trisha Paytas]

We have the same shower.

[Moses]

Used to mimic one to one, you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Know, the same sconces. You're right. Right. Yeah, no, I. That's the. I do try to mimic her everything because she is a genius and I will defend her forever. We'll get to that in just a second. Social media account you would run.

[Moses]

Well, I do run the number one fan page for you.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

Your own. You do still the title of my TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love it. Never change that.

[Moses]

Maybe, I mean, maybe Kate Bush.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. We love a Kate Bush stand.

[Moses]

She has a new album coming. She's doing a lot of charity work right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she promoting it? Because you said she doesn't usually promote stuff like she's notorious for not.

[Moses]

No, but she's promoting now. She's doing a collaborative with like 50 other artists.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Moses]

To help the children of war. All the children that are affected by wars right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

So, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you support it? Like, can you buy a piece of art or how do we.

[Moses]

Like, probably. I would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you didn't tell me about that.

[Moses]

That's a good topic.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, that is.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's selling herself. I can.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

For a night. I don't know.

[Moses]

I already. I already ordered the new album.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, but there's good.

[Moses]

It's other. It's like 50 other artists that are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know the other ones too.

[Moses]

Or just not most of them, but here it's okay.

[Callie Paytas]

Super fan.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he does love Kate Western artist.

[Moses]

Harness power of running up that hill for world Child Appeal. Child appeal. And she invited 52 UK visual artists to create work based on song lyrics of the running up that hill.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see like a different.

[Moses]

Yeah, so they're all creating art inspired by that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should do it just for. You should do it. Yeah, that would be a good video. You should do water running up the hill instead of like going down the water. Like you could. You know how you photograph water, you could like photograph it going up. Can water go up?

[Moses]

Yeah. Evaporation in trees. That is one of the biggest mysteries about water.

[Trisha Paytas]

It goes up trees.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean? How does it go up exactly? You've seen it.

[Moses]

Yeah. I mean that's because water goes from the roots up through the tree to the leaves and then evaporates back to the clouds.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you photograph that or. Probably not. Because it's in the soil.

[Moses]

It's microscopic.

[Trisha Paytas]

But we get to invent that next babe.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Find a way to get that microscopic water print.

[Moses]

But the lyrics she chose if I only could, I would make a deal with God. That's part of the lyrics.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You should do some art. You should.

[Callie Paytas]

I feel like that's.

[Moses]

I will you guys inspire us.

[Callie Paytas]

That's a good project.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because if it's like if I only could make a deal with God, like you could do like water like coming off like the girls hair, like photograph like the water beads or something. Because that's like our. Our godsend, you know? I don't know. I'm trying to think of how you interpret it. You should, you should just like, you.

[Callie Paytas]

Need to create one too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Okay, I can do that.

[Moses]

I'll do that. Get to those tubhole places. You wine and painting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was like, how can I contribute my art? Like if my art is like eating, like, how do I eat that?

[Moses]

Well, one of the. Because I think one of the things kids. One of the things kids need in war zones. They need water and they need food. It's like so something about the water. Yeah, I mean, that's what the child is looking for.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was going to say, like we could go feed them, but that would require you also cooking and also contributing. And you already contributing. So can I contribute? I guess I can cook. I can actually cook big ziti very well.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, I love your big ziti.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I do too.

[Callie Paytas]

It's so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

We always save it for when my dad comes up, but I guess everyone likes it, so we should probably just make it.

[Callie Paytas]

You know what? I never got a stuffed zucchini before.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, would you like them?

[Callie Paytas]

I would like one.

[Moses]

Oh, cuz I gave her a whole bowl of like six of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was this like? It's a couple weeks ago.

[Moses]

Well, the previous. The first one I made, she got a lot of them. And then the last. I'm definitely gonna make it again because I love it so much.

[Callie Paytas]

Maybe she froze them because I didn't see him.

[Moses]

Probably. Probably.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

I'm Just feeling. Because there was so many of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you should, yeah, you should come when they're fresh.

[Callie Paytas]

Because I'm like, ah, I didn't see those.

[Trisha Paytas]

He spends so much time when Moses stuffs zucchinis. Like, it's so meticulous. Like he's like stuffing them and like making sure they don't break. Like, it's like, it's such like a undertaking. Like, for one, zucchini is like takes and a half hour. So we'll come on over and actually speaking of, go to patreon.com. moses did a whole video filming his stuffed zucchini process. And you said it's like an hour long video. So.

[Moses]

Yeah, it's hour long. And then because on Tik Tok, I posted some. I was just like, you know what? Let me do what Trisha does. And like once in a while with the camera.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's all you need.

[Moses]

So the one on TikTok is not the full recipe because I don't show the sauce and everything else that goes into it. But the one on Patreon is full on us tasting it, eating it. And then I even have another taste the next day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you like, loved it. It was pretty good, you know, like. Anyways, I won't give any spoilers, but go over there. That's a good one. Well, mine. The only. That's the only question they took out of all the questions I answered. The only question they took and they published it on the Hollywood Reporter was whose social media account I would run. Any guesses? But you know.

[Moses]

I know.

[Callie Paytas]

You do know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I already told him.

[Moses]

I don't know if you'll guess it, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I think so. I think this is obvious.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Callie Paytas]

It's obvious to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's obvious. It's all I think about. It's all you think about.

[Moses]

Because she'll think. That's what I was gonna say. She gonna think Gerard's way.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but they don't have, like, socials like that.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay, Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I was thinking of someone very active on socials. But I could, like, help just put.

[Moses]

It in like actor. Let's say that at least.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Callie Paytas]

I mean, it's an actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Who's very active on socials and this person interacts a lot. Socials.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, my God. I don't know.

[Moses]

It's hard to just really, to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is like all I'm thinking about.

[Moses]

Because we can't dance this morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then we have a book, dancing.

[Moses]

She gave you all Britney Spears.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had a Booker for a guest.

[Callie Paytas]

That's the only one that I can think of that's really an actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

And this one came back as a maybe like our booker for guest still has them on like the he didn't say no list. And I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Callie Paytas]

Jason Momoa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. But love, no, no. This person has also interacted with me. I screenshot and sent it to you. I send the screenshots. Every time it says, like he liked to comment. I'm like, ow. I sent to Moses. I sent everyone. I'm like, oh my gosh. I sent it to Oscar. No one cares. Like midnight. I'm like, look who liked my post or liked a comment?

[Callie Paytas]

Who?

[Trisha Paytas]

Walton Goggins Bonafide.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's such a small blur from the Hollywood Reporter. So it has my, my bio and then it just has the question, whose account would you run? Like at Walton Goggins Bonif? I would love to. And I would. I would do way more of those.

[Callie Paytas]

Love that they put that out there though. Cause maybe it's gonna be a thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see it happening. Speaking of Britney, which we love. I said it that way because I was like thinking of another gross man in her life that just won't stop using her name for clout.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, thank you. That's what I think too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kevin Federline.

[Callie Paytas]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Coming back after that spousal support dried up. The child supports no more. And what does he do?

[Callie Paytas]

Writes a book.

[Trisha Paytas]

Writes a book. A tell all. Oh, maybe about his life. How to become a dancer. What he's doing since dancing. No, just Britney. Just her struggles with mental health. Her story. Her story. You're making money off of.

[Callie Paytas]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her struggles. Her. All of it. Which, like, you know. Oh, I want to make sure she's okay. I want to make sure she's getting really.

[Callie Paytas]

Then why are you writing a book.

[Trisha Paytas]

About writing a book after the kids are not grown?

[Callie Paytas]

And why are you taught bring the kids into it on top of always the kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

Always the kids. He's like, I just wanted to be there for them. Like, I'm afraid something bad's going to happen. Don't manifest that bad, Brittany. Like, no, like. And if there is an issue that you know about, let. How about you just know about it? How about the world doesn't need to know about it? If whatever you're saying. I don't believe much of what he's saying. I think exaggerate a lot. I know. Lord knows. Lord knows people have told stories about me that didn't even Happen sometimes. But you go with it because you're just like, well, maybe that happened. I can't remember because they know I was, like, mentally unwell. And then that story becomes truth. And then when you look back at it and you talking, like, I don't know if that even happened that way. And it's these gross men.

[Callie Paytas]

You repeat things over and over again. It just starts to become, like, true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

Like, you just start to believe it.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And maybe she was. Maybe there was a time that she was mentally unwell. Like, me too. It's like, maybe I did that. Maybe I can't remember. Then you're like, but there would be this and there would be that, and.

[Moses]

Then, like, but his job would be to be there and help her and the kids. Like, if you worry about the kids, protect the kids, be there. Like, I think the biggest thing that contribute to her mental health is him taking the kids away from her. He's probably the biggest. Well, that's the biggest thing that hurt her the most.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, specifically. And her dad, too. Like, she went in the conservatorship because they were like, well, your kids will be taken away unless you go into this conservatorship. So she's like, okay, like, of course. Like, you want your kids taking away. Like, I'll do whatever. And then they, like, yeah, like, tricked her, basically. And just like. And yeah, of course, the kids were very young when that all happened. So, like, over time, either they could be manipulative knowingly or unknowingly. But obviously, like, you're with the. You're growing up with your dad. The dad could say anything to you about the Anything. Oh, she wasn't. Well, she's this. Oh, she's trying to get better for you guys.

[Callie Paytas]

Harmful for kids. Of course. Divorce is growing up and having the other parent badmouth the other one. So then you get all these ideas because they didn't really spend that much time together. Not at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Not no time together. And so you just. Like you said, like, our parents were both divorced, and it's just like, even if it wasn't necessarily meant to be evil or bad, like, they just talk about each other and then you have some type of way. Right. We grew up mostly with mom, so I'm just like, okay. Like, I don't know my dad. So, like, whatever, you know, not anything bad even. It's just like, oh, well. And then like, later on in life, then you start thinking like, well, he was in California, so he must have left us. It's like, all that stuff. But then you're like, well, I don't really know what happened, but who knows and who cares? But this is so much more severe. And the fact that now they do have a relationship with her, Kevin saying like really personal stuff. Saying like she was holding a knife in their doorway and I was like.

[Callie Paytas]

Which is bizarre to me. That's like, if, if mom were to write a book of our childhood, it's like, that's not your story to tell either. Like, why are you putting that out? First of all, about my mom and my, my reaction to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Callie Paytas]

I feel like there should be a clause.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Callie Paytas]

And like some sort of like divorce that you cannot financially benefit off of your guys's story or something.

[Moses]

Especially if somebody or she should have.

[Callie Paytas]

Part in the whatever you make on that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it is one thing if it's his story meeting her, whatever. It's another thing to like just, just put her mental health on blast and be like, I'm worried for Her. I'm scared. She called Justin Timberlake before our wedding. It's like, I get, like, you were there, but, like, also, like, it's just not. Like, if it's a chapter in your story, fine. If it's your whole life story, you're a loser. You know, I just think because if.

[Moses]

She'S so dysfunctional, I mean, she still made enough money to support him all those years. Like, how. Yeah, this person is doing both things. Like, on one hand, she's, like, so problematic. At the same time, you take the money from her year after year. And her, his partner, too. Like, have no shame. Like, tell him, like, I want to get married. Like, I don't want to live off of this woman.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your ex literally would never, could never. Like, what are you. Like, that's insane. Like, you have a whole other family. But, like, you were so right. She's under this conservative. She's so unwell. Everyone's so scared for her safety. But meanwhile, performing seven shows a night or seven shows a week in Vegas, making millions of dollars for everybody. It makes me so mad. It makes me so mad. Like, I actually can't look at Justin Timber, like, the same at all. Just because he was just, just an awful person to her. And so I'm just like, I hate him. Like, would never see an instant green into her. But Kevin Featherline is a whole other level of, like, just gross.

[Callie Paytas]

When they were together, I think fans hated.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hated him was bad.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I liked it because she was in love and I was like, okay, that's kind of cute. But now all this stuff and you and you had kids, that's a whole other level. Like, now this is like your children's mom. Like, no matter how crazy quotes that, like, someone is, like, don't put them on blast like that. Like, it's so weird, especially if you were that close.

[Callie Paytas]

You can see the abuse that her, her family had put her through.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

Like, like, still, I, I just, I don't know.

[Moses]

He's part of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's part of it.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, that's true.

[Moses]

I think he has the biggest part of it. Taking her kids away.

[Callie Paytas]

That's so sad to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I live in love it. And like you said, she's been supporting your, your whole new family. Like, your whole new family. Like, it's so wild. It's so, I, I, it is so just tacky. You think collecting all that money from her for all those years. Have a little respect.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

To keep something private, you know, and.

[Callie Paytas]

Live your life out of the public.

[Trisha Paytas]

Eye, which he was for a while.

[Callie Paytas]

He's here.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Callie Paytas]

You know why?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it dried up.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, they're 19 and 20 now, that's why.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I don't blame the kids because the kids now charge her and you see her with her sons more and everyone's like, oh, the money like dried up. It's like we don't know what those kids were told. We don't know, like. And I think no matter what, like, right. You have an estranged parent. Like, so many people just want a relationship with them. And it's, it's. I, I can almost. I'm not in it. So I can say 99% but that, like, it was not Britney's doing. Because she. One thing as a Britney Stan. I know she always talks about her sons. Any sort of evidence they ever try to like, leak about her. There was one of her in her car just like disciplining her kids. And like, oh my God, her yelling at her kids. And like, literally all the moms, we're like, she's being a mom. Like, that's what you do. You say, no more of this, no more of that. Like, whatever. And people are like, wow, she's so crazy in this. And it's like that manipulation that. It's like so, so annoying. And even now, I mean, I'm scared. I'm scared something happened to her. Well, how about you just talk to someone about it? You know what I mean? Like, don't.

[Callie Paytas]

Or like he put it on to like the free Britney like movement. Like, oh, well, the same people that were in a part of that need to make sure that she still save us. You're putting this book out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You're doing the most harm. What if she is all mentally unwell as you say? You put this out. Like, you think that I don't think.

[Callie Paytas]

She'S gonna react to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you think she.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, even the same person would be like, this is in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, this is crazy for you to.

[Callie Paytas]

Put in a book.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, true. That is so true. Like, yeah, me and my healing area now. It's like if someone did a book and like just interpret it in their way, like. And also probably lies. There's probably like some lies or stretching of the truth or something. I would be so livid. And after I like, yeah, people just get used their whole lives for financial reasons like that. Like you just. I mean, it takes, it takes so much strength to like, go with it, you know, the. There is hope. I see Wendy Williams now. She looks so much better. Like Whatever they were. I think she's out of her conservatorship now. Whatever they put her under, like, she's talking better. She's like, more coherent. And I really do think, like, Britney has talked about herself, like, being missing medicated, like, wrongly. Like just all, like all that stuff contributes to her overall mental health. So I do think there's like so much hope for her. I think she's not even just for like a comeback, but just for her own self. If her sons are around her, they're obviously around her for a reason. And I don't believe it's for money or whatever. I really do think they're trying to like, have a relationship with their mom. I'm sure she wants as well because those are like her boys. Like, I just. I couldn't imagine you would do anything for it, including signing your rights over and saving the head and pin tier.

[Moses]

She.

[Trisha Paytas]

She did something with her. She was in a. She had a daughter with, you know, I guess her husband and same thing. She was not well enough to take care of her daughter. So she's trying to like, temporary, like parental. What is it called? Custody.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he ended up taking like the daughter back to. I think he was from like Russia or something like that. And just like had. He just took all of it. He just wouldn't let the daughter see, like, back again. And it's just like, I get the.

[Callie Paytas]

Need for like, what is it? Conservatorship, but it always. It doesn't ever seem good. I mean, they made. They made it like a movie about how there was like this conservatorship, like company that would just go into like older folks home and like basically had a. Were in cahoots with the judge and then they kept him in there. It's just like, I mean, if they're making like horror stories about these, maybe they're not that good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, and it's always like these women that are like, like making all this money.

[Callie Paytas]

That part it's, you know, it's women.

[Trisha Paytas]

You hear about, where's Kanye's conservative. Like, Kris Jenner's not putting money. Like, what do you mean? Like, how can you just. And they do it because they have like some sort of like, like Britney with her kids. It's like, oh, come in. The conservatorship, the Wendy Williams thing, literally, that one is the craziest. Like Wells Fargo is like, you're spending too much money. You're in a conservatorship. Like, what do you mean? Your bank is putting you in a conservatorship.

[Callie Paytas]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

And totally functioning. Doing a show every single day for tv.

[Callie Paytas]

Like, I. If you're that mentally not well to take care of yourself, why are they forcing you to work still?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. How are you capable of working if you can't, you know, like that? I don't.

[Callie Paytas]

I just don't understand.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's always during, like a crisis point. Right. Like Wendy the Affair. So then everyone's like, oh, she's like, spiraling and psychosis. Or like, same thing with Britney, you know, it's like the shaved head thing. Or it's just like, there's always something.

[Callie Paytas]

I think that Britney might have been going through postpartum depression. And that's why people think that she.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was so, like, thousand percent. She had her boys literally 12 months. Like, they're two, like two days apart, one year. And like, two days apart. One is like, September 14th, I think, and September 16th or something like that. Like, like, she's on tour. She's doing two births back to back at a very young age. And maybe already had. Yeah. Maybe had other, like, you know, mental struggles. But postpartum is so severe and without that support and with like, paparazzi around you and everyone just, like, criticizing you as a mom. Remember she would be carrying her baby and she had wedges, so she was just, like, wobbling. And everyone's like, oh, my God, Brittany almost drops her baby and it's just like.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I couldn't. I could not imagine being under that microscope. Yeah. That all of that taken. And no one. No one can take that into consideration into account.

[Callie Paytas]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're also working her and you're also like, just doing so much and not. No one's helping. No one's helping at all in this situation.

[Moses]

Because she probably had a path that she could have taken to heal, but they did exactly the opposite where they.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Threw her even further away into mental crisis.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of course, you think the people around you could trust, like your dad, your husband. Like, and to find out, like you said, working together in a sense, because there was like, alleged, like, calls between Kevin and Jamie, her dad, and keeping her in the conservatorship. And so I think when you find that out, it's very much like, who. Who do I trust? Who recently was like, that something happened. And like, they're like, I can't trust anybody.

[Moses]

Ned, his wife.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Ariel. Yeah. His ex wife. She was. Yeah, she was the same way she did. Everyone know about this? Like, he wasn't telling me. Who knew Like.

[Callie Paytas]

Like, that's, like, when the veil gets lifted and you're like, oh, my God. Yeah, I've been blinded to all of this. And, like, imagine. Okay, so she might have dealt with postpartum depression. Then she might have been, like, on, like, an even worse path because of the media, her family, the conservatorship. And then when she finds out, like, she's out of it now. She's dealing with, like, wow, everyone that I trusted can't be trusted.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I don't think.

[Callie Paytas]

And I have no one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think you can trust anyone. And that's, like, the worst. Like, how can you not have one person to trust in your life? And you would think your parents or your parents have been there from the beginning. Sure, Kay Fed was a dancer who's on opportunity or whatever, but it's like your parents. Both your mom and your dad and your sister.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah. And your sister.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your little sister. Like, I. That's insane. And how could you trust anybody that comes into your life? You just. You can't. And then you're isolated, you're alone. And then it's just like, then you have. You have no one.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, she did have that assistant for a long time, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fee.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

And she got, like, kind of pushed. She did awayside, because she didn't really. I think she was really only trying to help her. But then they're like, no, no, you're ruining the plan, so you gotta go. You know?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Yeah. Like, what happened to her? It's a sad story. I hate seeing Kevin's face.

[Callie Paytas]

I hate it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate it so much. Like, if you're broke, just say it. You know what I mean? And.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, he did. And so many words.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Nobody wants to hear about it. Like, just stop. I commented on it. I was. Every time I see a post, I comment. I am never one. I always think, like, why do people comment? Like, just. If you don't like it, keep scrolling. But now sometimes people. He's evil. You know, in human form. Yeah. No, this is because, like, you're. Oh, my God. Just. You're capitalizing off of your ex. You're the mother of your children, and someone who has had issues with mental illness has talked about it. You're making it worse. You're not helping. You're. Put her in a conservatorship, allegedly. Like, all this stuff. I'm like. Like, you are a piece of human. That's it. I don't know. Make a dance video or something. I don't Know, do something. Do a tick tock dance. Go on Dancing with the Stars. No, they don't want them. Even dancing stars.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, he's not even any kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

A or no Z list.

[Callie Paytas]

He's. He's no list.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's. He's literally no less than 20 years.

[Moses]

Claim to fame.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, claim to fame. I had babies.

[Callie Paytas]

He's like, yeah, I had babies with Britney Spears and I was married to her for three years. Wow.

[Moses]

So nobody would guess because nobody knows him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, literally, like, no, truly like Gen Z. I wonder how many people could recognize Kevin Vanderlein. Like a 18 year old or something or like 17 year old. Yeah, I bet not either. There's so many that like no way.

[Callie Paytas]

One of your first YouTube videos. Do you remember I was Kevin and you were Britney. Oh my God, we gotta find that. I feel like someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh no, that was a different one.

[Callie Paytas]

But someone tagged us in a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was I pregnant? Yeah, I had the pill in my belly and I was like, you know that.

[Callie Paytas]

What do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

KV Like I. I love them. Like I love K. I did. I was a fan of her, not the relationship. She could have dated anybody.

[Callie Paytas]

And I was like, yeah, we stand.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because Sam Ascari, I like loved him. Then he also became a clout user, chaser, clown.

[Callie Paytas]

And now I saw through that too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you? Yeah, a lot of people did. But she looked happy. She was like engaged having a baby with him.

[Callie Paytas]

I want her to be happy, but with the right people.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, I know. Can't just someone just like.

[Callie Paytas]

I just want her to be happy with her and I don't think that she's ever been able.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's so hard. I think there's people who like love to be in love and I think she's like one of those. In my heart I feel that because she is like searching for love. And I think all these guys, including Justin making cry me a river about her, like extenuating that she cheated. Like every single guy has just completely. Yeah, and the media too. Shame, we always say the shame on the media. Who is it? Diane Sawyer had that interview with her where she's like, what did you do?

[Callie Paytas]

Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did you do that made him cheat? What do you mean? Diane Sawyer.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, I was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. And Britney's passionate today about it. They just bring her down and bring her down. Like, what do you mean? How? Like you said a person with zero mental health issues without being in fame would have a hard time with everyone just constantly gaslighting her into thinking you're the Problem. And she was so sweet. She held her composure.

[Callie Paytas]

I can't believe it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love a Britney clap back, though. I wish Brittany would clap back sometimes because there was an old one when she was pointing Crossroads, the movie. And the reporters like, like, so you, like, kiss the guy in this movie? Did Justin Timberlake get upset? Do you see that clip?

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like. No, it's called acting and it's pretend. And he knows that because he's an adult. I was like, I love Britney's clapbacks. Cue the compilation of Britney clapbacks.

[Moses]

Love.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was him jealous seeing you kissing with another boy. No, it's just a movie. It's pretend. You're an adult. You should know that. Yes. You got a bush. Wow.

[Callie Paytas]

What a segue.

[Trisha Paytas]

What a segue.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

From gaslighting to gaslighting to what? It's a different form of gaslighting.

[Callie Paytas]

She asked me if I had a boost.

[Moses]

Because if you. If you have hair, if you shave, you shave now. You need to put a bush on. It's like it doesn't matter what you do. It's like the other option. They're going to study the other options.

[Trisha Paytas]

From Cape Bush to bush, but do that transition. Speaking of bush, is this a bush or is it a landing strip or is it just for funsy? The skims has come out. Love skims, by the way. Love skims more than anything in the whole world. Like, I should be a skim spokesperson because they go up to 4x. We love it. I've worn it through all my pregnancies. That's all I wear, really. I love a skims. They came out with pubic. Is it pubic hair or just fuzzy? They call them furry. They call them furry thongs.

[Callie Paytas]

No, I thought it was pubic hair. Wait, I don't know if they look up the exact.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think they identify them as faux hair.

[Callie Paytas]

Micro string thong is the.

[Trisha Paytas]

So faux hair. Okay. So they're. They're marketing it as a little. A landing strip.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not a full bush.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, not that little triangle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. I always think of Chloe telling her, like, you need to make one for wider set vaginas. She really needs. Because my V. What is that called? Is it a fupa? Am I calling it.

[Callie Paytas]

No, I think it's just we're women, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

But some people have just. I always say this. There's like the slot, and then some people have the cushion. Oh, the cushion's the fupa. Probably. I think I have a big. That And I think maybe that's what, like, Chloe was talking about. So when you buy, like, a thong, even a 2X, it's very narrow where it does not cover. You'll see some folds and then some. And I was like, why don't they make them, like, if you're 2x plus size, why aren't they making them more wide? And then specifically this one. You know what? I'm gonna try it out. Is it out yet?

[Callie Paytas]

That's so funny that you say that. I'm like, dang, I wish I could go to Nordstrom and they'd have them in stock. But I think this is more of, like, a prime thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it has to be for sale.

[Callie Paytas]

They're for what? They're going to be for sale.

[Moses]

But 32.

[Trisha Paytas]

But does it say a release date? 32 for Pupa Care is crazy. You can just grow your own. But I love it.

[Callie Paytas]

Maybe I. Their Instagram skims. Instagram did have a caption that says, the carpet doesn't always have to match the drape.

[Lena Paytas]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, okay, Tea. That is true. They had different colors.

[Callie Paytas]

You can get the blonde ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is a mood for sure. Because, like, I don't know if anyone has blonde people here. That'd be crazy. And I would love it. But, like, that would be fun, right?

[Callie Paytas]

Like blonde red. There's lighter brown. There's darker brown. You mean skims?

[Trisha Paytas]

Every shade. We love it. I would love if they did, like, a hot pink, but I guess that's not the skims.

[Callie Paytas]

Brace. Just take some of this off.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, please. Skims. If I ever wanted to clap, this is it. Oh, my God. Just like a strip. Like, that would be so cool. This is my favorite thing they've done. I love it.

[Callie Paytas]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it so much.

[Callie Paytas]

I love the nipple bra. I love the.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the nipple bra, too. I was, like, hard on it. I didn't even think my dumb self. Just thinking about myself being like, oh, my God, I have to sense in my nipples. Which is, like, so dumb. But there's so many people who've gone through, like, surgeries that haven't had nipples cancer, like, all those things. And, like, we would like a nipple bra. Skim's really doing the work. And anyone hating on this, I don't know, because it's like. Like, look, there's a lot of things to just hate on. Overall with Kardashians, we'll get to in a minute about the caller, Daddy. But I think skims is, like, the brand. It's like the feminist brand, it's for the women, by the women.

[Callie Paytas]

Say what you want about the Kardashians.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Callie Paytas]

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[Callie Paytas]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Love them.

[Callie Paytas]

They're so good for any kind of size. Yeah, I like skims. Kylie did good on her lip kits.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even the KY line. I have some Kai. Yeah, the lip kits, the KY and Kylie coming back. You know what? I'm not gonna even end up in unwell. They gave, gave us some of those Lemmy sleep gummies and I love those. I. Yeah, they come out. They come out with the bangers.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah. But yeah, I think this is great. I don't care if it's just for pr. I think it's funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's funny.

[Callie Paytas]

I think it's light hearted. It doesn't hurt anybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

It makes you feel cool too. It's like, oh, I'm a little animal down there. Because you don't always love it. Like, I don't want the feeling of it. Yes.

[Moses]

Like a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just a fun surprise for you, for yourself.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, it's kind of like a wig.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? You know, take it on when you.

[Callie Paytas]

Want, put it on when you want. You can take it off when you don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't. Moses, as a person who doesn't love a pubic hair, what do you think about these?

[Moses]

I'm thinking about the furries. You know, they need something to wear, you know, like a side of their.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think furries just wear a full suit.

[Moses]

Right. But then when they take it off, does it match? So now they can choose one that matches what they're wearing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think that's what the furries are into. Right. What do you mean?

[Moses]

How do you know?

[Callie Paytas]

How do you know?

[Moses]

I don't. I'm just trying to think about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

How would you feel?

[Moses]

But I guess it's better because then they can take it off. Like, if you don't. Like, it's faster. But the odd thing is, like, if somebody, like, you can just grow it if you want it. So I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But now some people can't grow it. That's true. The alopecia's out there. What are you saying? Yeah. What if I just have a.

[Callie Paytas]

Or if someone got laser and, like, a bush is bad?

[Trisha Paytas]

They regret it. That's true. The trends come and go like bbls. Everyone trying to get rid of their bbls. It's like, well, this one you can just come and go and. You know, maybe someday you just want a. A little bush down there. What if I have some red. Some red hair down there in my thong? What are you going to see?

[Callie Paytas]

Fringe?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

A little red aerial moment.

[Moses]

I mean, it's not going to stay on for long, so I don't mind it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Moses]

I mean, this one is very much a gimmick. I think the bra with the nipples was very good because they were like trans people. There were people like, there. There are a lot of people that needed that to feel a certain way. This one just feels funny. I mean, it's like.

[Callie Paytas]

I mean, I want the nipple bra.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want the nipple bra.

[Moses]

Right. I'm saying that one has value. This one, I think, is just funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Callie Paytas]

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[Callie Paytas]

I'm gonna wear it too, but I really wanted to. Mom's like, just go to Nordstrom. I'm like, I don't think they're gonna be in store.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the store. The mannequin.

[Callie Paytas]

I'm weak. I'm like, mom, I don't think they're gonna have them in store. I think it's kind of like an.

[Trisha Paytas]

Online but normalized kind of thing. You know, I don't personally, I don't love the way it feels, but if it's on the outside, I think that could be a gag. But she normally. People care because when I was 12 and all the kids made fun of me in swim class.

[Callie Paytas]

Me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Like, what's a hair?

[Callie Paytas]

I would have to be in the bathroom changing. You know what? Good on skim.

[Trisha Paytas]

Normalize it. Embracing it, charging for it. Monetize off it.

[Callie Paytas]

This is gonna go crazy for White.

[Trisha Paytas]

Elephant this year, though. Oh, yes. Give me a 2x please.

[Moses]

Do you think they'll Let them display it at the mall or is it considered.

[Callie Paytas]

I think they'll have them in the mall.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, they can't do that. But I would love.

[Callie Paytas]

I don't think the. The demand is high enough for.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what they're trying in stores.

[Moses]

They're trying to push the envelope to see mannequins wearing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Callie Paytas]

They are on the website, but it looks like they're like all sold out. Like, the sizes are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, join the wait list.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

And you know what? I will after this.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm gonna get every color.

[Callie Paytas]

There's like so many different colors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? How many? Like seven, six.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, no, there's like.

[Moses]

But this string. The string is so little.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Model for it. Maybe they. Do they have any models on there? 12. Are people modeling it? No.

[Callie Paytas]

I wish.

[Trisha Paytas]

Show it on mine. Skims. Show it on a wide set. 1. We need to see what that looks like. Okay.

[Callie Paytas]

You know what? There's different texture hair too. They've got straight, they've got curly, they've got wavy.

[Moses]

It's like fries.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Straight curlies. Arby's. Okay. Get them in on this.

[Callie Paytas]

For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm here for it. I love it.

[Callie Paytas]

I love it too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kim Kardashian was on Collar Daddy this week. Yesterday. Did you see it?

[Callie Paytas]

I saw some clips. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good for Alex Cooper, man. She was just unwell. Now she's like. She's doing a big festival in Vegas and I was like, I got Kim Kardashian on my podcast, which is pretty epic. She's talking about Kanye. Talking about. What did she talk about that I want to talk about? Oh, the thing I didn't. She's talking about Kanye and I like, I so much respect. Like, I just like love the way that she talks about him. You know, my biggest pet peeve. I love, love the car. Kris Jenner looks great. That blonde. Oh, God, that blonde on her. The facelift. I want to know the facelift. I'm influenced.

[Callie Paytas]

I'm influenced.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will spend my life savings to have that youth.

[Callie Paytas]

Same Me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

She looks great. She looks just like literally Kim, like right next to each other. And I love them. But all of them, including the show, when we watched it. I think the show's coming back soon. The show, when we watched it. And even Kim in her friggin call her daddy. Right? It's about Kim and she talking about Kanye and whatever. She brings up Tristan, who I just think, like, really next to Kay Fed. They're in the same. They're in that same category to me, and there's just no convincing me otherwise because there's just. There's just no, like, accountability, truly. You know what I mean? There's no, like, we love a redemption. Like, if Tristan was with, like, all the kids, you know, for his birthday, and every kid was invited to the party, okay, we'd love to see that, but we're not seeing that. And they all push it down the throat. Like, he's a great dad. You could say a lot. You could say he's there for his kids. You can say he's there for Chloe, sure. But, like, to be, like, a great dad when he doesn't, like, acknowledge one of his kids. And then there's rumors about him not talking to some of the older ones. They're always at the Kardashian with his kids, with Chloe. And so in the Caller Daddy one, she was saying, like, you know, Kanye hasn't seen his kid in months, you know, or hasn't seen the kids in months. She's like, you know, it's been a couple months. She, like, put that out there, and that's, like, sad or whatever, and, you know, whatever. But then she, like, parallels it with, you know, it's just so wonderful. See Tristan tucking his kids in every night to bed and stuff. And I'm like, let's not paint Tristan as, like, the great father, right? Kanye, you know, is. Has the four kids with Kim, and, like, okay, maybe. Maybe he's not great either, not seeing them for a couple months. But Tristan has multiple kids with multiple women. So if he's talking, it's one set of kids in every night and just not even acknowledging one or the other, then the other kids are going to bed by themselves. Is he a great father? If he's not dividing equal amount of time with all of them, you know what I mean? And happens. Things happen. I get that for sure. But let's not be like, oh, man, I see Tristan just be there every night for his kids. It's like, well, some of his kids, right? You know, not to say Kanye is any better. I'm just saying it's giving.

[Callie Paytas]

The father can do the bare minimum, and you get called a great father.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's wild. And I think that's just going a little too far. And it's just, like. It's insulting to people who are there for their children, all their children, if they have multiple. You know what I mean? It's. It's just. Yeah, I don't. And, like, I'll call her daddy. And I just don't get this, like, propaganda that we're trying to. Again, this will never get me a skims campaign. But I love the Kardashians. I'm saying this as, like, a fan, and I love Khloe more than any of them. Like, I think Khloe's my favorite. I think maybe that's why all of this too, because it's not just, okay, cheated on her once while she was nine months pregnant. Okay. Cheated on her getting nine months pregnant. Okay. Getting another person pregnant while also getting Chloe pregnant. What the. Yeah. And not telling her. Like, not telling her.

[Callie Paytas]

And then her family kind of was like, well, maybe you should make it work with Tristan and Da, da, da. Let's not push that on her. She's successful on her own. She can parent these kids on her own.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Callie Paytas]

Like, obviously, they can have joint custody, whatever, but I just don't. I don't get the push I get. I guess I get the push to have both parents in each other's lives, but you can only push so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but, like, a cheater. Cheat on one, cheat on twice. Like, she has a boundary. It's like, I don't like this cheating, okay? Like, if someone cheated, I'd be like, if you want to stay with them, I'd be like, all right, we'll support that, I guess, if that's what you want. But, like, she clearly was like, no, he was awful. I'm, like, trying to set a boundary. And they're like, well, but, like, you should.

[Callie Paytas]

I also think Alex asked her about Tristan. Or did she just bring it up?

[Trisha Paytas]

She just brought it up. She was, like, just talking about Kanye.

[Callie Paytas]

And all of a sudden say, that's weird that they asked him about Tristan.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but I think it's even weirder that she just brings Tristan up. But I was like, we're not. We love the Kardashians. We love you as a brand, but we can't stand. I was gonna use a harder word. Like, we can't stand Tristan because you're just an awful person. And his excuses are terrible. He has, like, no excuses for it. Got that girl pregnant. And Chloe has said this herself. The night that Chloe threw him his own birthday party. Like, she throws him a birthday party in Texas. Yeah. They're together. She goes on a red eye flight home. He goes and gets that kind of night.

[Callie Paytas]

I know, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so crazy. You did it at my birthday party, and he birthday and you. Oh, my gosh. It's actually insane. And again, I'm all for too. Like, yeah, if you want the same father for your babies, have 50 babies. But, like, the dishonesty, like, the fact that she had to find out when Kim's like, hey, I think you have this other girl pregnant it. And she even says, like, in the thing, like, you know, he's having the boy with her because they were, like, trying to. Yeah, they picked a boy.

[Callie Paytas]

And that makes me so sad. Why would she bring that up? And also, like, why wouldn't you? Like, I don't know what Rob's doing. He's on the. The public eye, but I feel like his daughter is doing really great. Why would you be like, well, Rob's a great dad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Why don't you relate it to your.

[Callie Paytas]

Brother and not like some weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean, Travis, like, there's so many other. So many other figures in your life. Yes.

[Callie Paytas]

Why would you pick that guy?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's weird. Nobody wants. Are they even together? No. Okay. I don't get that. I don't either. Just a weird thing.

[Moses]

Tucks them in every night. They probably are together and they're just trying to soft launch it, like, getting. That's all they did the entire season. That's all they did was trying to make.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trying to get the public eye to be.

[Moses]

They were. Kept trying to rehab, you know, his whole, like, character, and they were getting him work and they were managing him. So. So I think, I mean, if he at least came honest, be like, I'm a sex addict. This is what I need to do. This is the therapy.

[Callie Paytas]

I'm going to stick that narrative.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

The sex addict. No, but I'm just saying, like, acknowledge at least where your downfall is and what you need to do to fix it. And why should she take you back? And knowing that it's not gonna happen again, but they know it's gonna happen again.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think also, like, we'd love to see, like, I'm gonna be a little PR person here, you know? Yeah, let's see. Because they had that party and I think his oldest kid came, but, like, like the new baby didn't come. So, like, you know how all. All the siblings there, like, make it be like, look at Tristan being a dad to all the kids, you know, to all of the kids. Because they all are deserving of it. You know, they're all deserving of, you know, his attention and, you know, he made the choice to.

[Moses]

I mean, if one of the other mothers was a family of billionaires, we might have been over there attacking the kid. Every night.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, it makes a difference.

[Callie Paytas]

An opportunist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah. These men. Same. I know. And it makes me sad because Chloe really does want love. And I know, same thing with Britney, but they are really. They are centering men. I'm sorry. That's what is happening. I think so. They wanted to have love, they wanted to have the family, but they just really wanted it so bad that they saw the. They ignored the flaws in the person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. Yeah, maybe. I think the Kardashians probably have been accused of that. Yeah. I'm just thinking because, like, Khloe is so, like, independent and she, like, does her own work and. Yeah, maybe. I don't know if Britney. I don't know. I know what you mean. But like, when you're in love, you're in love, and that is like, your whole world. And then hopefully you fall into a stable, like, environment where. Cause you know. Yeah, I think that's probably true. I think I was always like, a man comes first. Like, I will not go to auditions. Like, in my early 20s, I usually skip auditions if, like, it meant seeing my guy I was dating or something. But yeah, having someone enhance your life versus just making them your whole life.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is a big difference. But I love Chloe and I know she, like, she'll find someone, but I hope so.

[Moses]

Maybe. I mean, what if she. I mean, she also needs. She deserves the space to have what she wants, and if she wants to forgive him, have him be the father of the kids, be her husband, be whatever. Like, she should have also the right to do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But let's just do it. Not on the Kardashians, because I do not want to see it because it's coming back and Rob is coming back on the Kardashians. Oh, yay. And so is. So is Caitlyn.

[Callie Paytas]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

She's making a return. So I'm excited.

[Moses]

The rating were going down fast. Yeah. Like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think it falls into that extravagant lifestyle sort of thing that, like, I don't know if people really want to see people.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, it was fun in the beginning, I feel, but now they've. I'm surprised they're even still doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, I like when you.

[Callie Paytas]

You're doing so much bigger things than that show, you know, I mean, I'm sure they're getting paid all very, very handsomely. But I'm just saying, like, there has to be a point where you're like, okay, I'm done sharing that side of.

[Trisha Paytas]

My life, and I want to just.

[Callie Paytas]

Focus on, like, my brands or.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think the show drives their brands, like, skims.

[Moses]

They're always the brand.

[Callie Paytas]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? Like, on a much smaller scale, but like, this podcast, like, we. I love this podcast. I'll always do it. But then as I get busier, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I. Can I keep up with the podcast? Like, I want to. I'd love to do it, but also need to. Like, the podcast is the center of why all this is happening, and I'm very, very lucky that I get to come on and talk about Trishma's live. So it's very much like money. Maybe I make money doing other things, but it's just like, what is the central point of TikToks, of everything. It's this podcast, and I love it, and I'll continue doing it, and that's why I'll continue doing it. Even in New York. People are asking, is it continuing in New York? Yes. And I will be. I will be here every week. Will you?

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, I'll be here.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Kim said she was content and happy being single, and she is not looking currently, and I need to focus on my kids, and I do love that about her. I love Kim. I love Courtney. I love. I love the whole bunch. Kendall and Kylie, too. I love them all.

[Callie Paytas]

Did you hear Kylie's new single?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Callie Paytas]

What's it called?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's With Trin Chanel.

[Moses]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Channel. Is that what it's called?

[Callie Paytas]

No, I think it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

With.

[Callie Paytas]

His name is Trey, I think. Yeah, that's what I was saying, but it's called. Called Fourth strike.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. I didn't know what it was called, but I did hear it. I heard it today in Glam because we were talking about the. Okay, glam.

[Callie Paytas]

What did you think about it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I do. She's kind of like techno, right? It's kind of like a techno. Like, I don't know.

[Callie Paytas]

Is she talking about Timothy Chalamet?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, I didn't hear that. How was it? Didn't even listen to the lyrics. No, no, I know.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that not the one? I heard something. I thought it was.

[Callie Paytas]

She's talking about. She's on her forehead. Fourth strike. Like, I'm assuming with, like, a relationship.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. I never listen to lyrics ever. Oh, literally, I'm like, wait, what did that.

[Callie Paytas]

It was like a lyric music video. But okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just heard a little audio and.

[Callie Paytas]

She was just like, she's on. Well, that's basically what it's about, like, her fourth strike.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, but that. Does that mean what, Like, I don't know.

[Callie Paytas]

That's why I'm. I'm wanting to know what do you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Need to dig Dipper? I think she. I think she has a great. A great voice, though. I love her. Rise and shine. Rise and shine. Stormy, baby. You look like she is queen. Yeah, I think she's so beautiful. I like them. I like their work they do. I like on the connections, when they show, like, Kim going to, like, prisons and helping, like, you know, what is it? Not perform it? Is that what it's called? Prison reform. It like, helping, like, prisoners adjust life outside of prison or, like, getting people off. That's okay. I like when they show those kind of things. Mix it with a little bit. Yeah, we love a little Dolce and Gabbana wedding or something like that. But, like, want to see the philanthropics of it all. You know what I mean? I think that's where we like to see. And we don't want to see Tristan.

[Callie Paytas]

We don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will see anybody else. Rob or Travis. Heck, I'd love to see Reggie Bush.

[Callie Paytas]

But I don't want to see Forever Ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I don't even know who that is. I know it's, like, her first, but I have no idea what he did.

[Callie Paytas]

I think he's a. Is he football player?

[Trisha Paytas]

Asking Moses as if he knows. Right?

[Callie Paytas]

Nobody watches football in this room.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Don't know. But moving on, I can't wait to watch Kim's show on.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Callie Paytas]

The Ryan Murphy about the divorce lawyers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I love Sarah Paulson. I love her.

[Callie Paytas]

I do, too. And Niecy Nash is gonna be in it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a stacked cast. I think there's, like, more. There's other famous people that I can't think of.

[Callie Paytas]

Niecy's been getting some really good love. Niecy Nash, she was just in the. Oh, I guess not just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just.

[Callie Paytas]

She was in the Jeffrey Dahmer one.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I had just watched it over.

[Callie Paytas]

The weekend, but scary. Yeah, she did great in that. She was in Grotesque Korea on Hulu. I watched that. I like that she's getting the serious roles, because before, I only knew her from, oh, Reno 9:1.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. That's the one. I was like, what's the one? I know from.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, now she's getting these really big.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I love. And she must be in her 50s, right, because she's been around for so long, like, Since I was a kid. She must be like 40s or 50s. I don't know which. I love to see too. I love when like women because obviously I'm getting older. Like, like getting roles. You don't have to be 18 years old or 20 years old. Love, Niecy Nash. Please come on the podcast if you are out there while she's out there listening. I mean, to the thing out there in the world. We have. Ali and AJ Used our sound. Ali Mashaka. I love every single person from Ali and aj Amazon is performing.

[Callie Paytas]

I saw that. You know what's so crazy? I was just talking about her on my stream yesterday, and then I was scrolling and they popped up. I'm like, shut up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were you talking about Ali or aj?

[Callie Paytas]

Both of them and how much I love them. And I loved.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did. I told you I love them.

[Callie Paytas]

On easy A her out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, Ally, because I was like, who are they? And I was like, they were hard to explain. I'm like, they're like, are they. Were they Disney Channel stars? They pop stars?

[Callie Paytas]

Because they were in a Disney show.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they did the. It took too long.

[Callie Paytas]

It took too long.

[Trisha Paytas]

That much. They were.

[Callie Paytas]

I love them.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were sisters and I loved. I was like, oh, we could be Ashley sisters, right? They were sister singers. Kind of like the Hailey and the Hillary Duff like sisters. Jessica and Ashley, like, sisters were like the marketing tool. So I really saw us, like, being that. I remember I wrote a song for us when I was like 10 called angel turning into a devil. Her head was never level. Everyone knew what happens.

[Callie Paytas]

That didn't quite work out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't remember that song. I heard that when I was like 10. So you were like 5.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? When we used to play, you were like, you have to memorize this, otherwise we're not playing ever again. So, like, my life depended on, like, making sure I made you proud.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, you did. You did learn that song. And I wrote it. And then we. We tried to do pirates for America's Got Talent. I was like, we have to learn how to sword fight.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah. America's Got Talent choreography it too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that didn't go very far one.

[Callie Paytas]

Day, but I do love that. When I saw that, I was like, that's so te.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love Ally and Day. Please come on the podcast, girls. We love you and we love all your. Love you so good. Nara Smith has named her baby.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, she's another baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fourth baby. Wow. Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

Wait, can I guess?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Is it. People like it. It's not that crazy.

[Callie Paytas]

They're saying postmate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

The person that cooks everything from Scrat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that's it. Well, to recap, her babies are Honey, Rumble, Whimsy Lou, and. Gosh, I can't think of her other one, but those are the names. I don't think they're that crazy of names. I think they're really pretty. She like women. That's cute.

[Callie Paytas]

Fonny Golden.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Fonny golden is the new.

[Moses]

When you put nar, the first search is Slimy. Kids names.

[Trisha Paytas]

Slim Easy. Okay.

[Callie Paytas]

I don't know about that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it. Sounds like a fighter. Slimy sounds like Slim Shady.

[Callie Paytas]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I like it. Sounds like Easy Rider. I like some Easy. Fonny golden is the new one.

[Callie Paytas]

Fawny Golden.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bonnie Golden.

[Moses]

What's funny?

[Callie Paytas]

Huh?

[Moses]

What's funny?

[Trisha Paytas]

Fawny. I don't know.

[Callie Paytas]

Like a fawn is a. Yeah. A baby deer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fawny. I like it. What if I just like. That's too weird. Hate it. Fonny Golden. Who named their baby that?

[Callie Paytas]

I like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kidding. Just like me judging someone's baby name.

[Moses]

Did you know the name of her stepdaughter?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Oh, I did. Celestial or something like that. Celeste. Sorry.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, Gravity Blue.

[Moses]

I was gonna tell her. Who needs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Moses]

Everything Blue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Callie Paytas]

Great name, though, for wicked, the end. Or for good coming out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, define gravity. Yeah, Gravity. Gravity. It's a good name. That's what I'm saying. When people were so concerned with our Aquaman, I was like, we are growing up in the world of gravity. We're growing up in the world of Fawny. You know what I mean? Like, Aquaman fits in. Slim whimsy. Love it. Like, yeah, that's our. That's the era we're living in. Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like, Aquaman discovered gravity and they raised the family.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay. Oh, all right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Gravity might be a little too old for Aquaman, but we'll think maybe Fawny. Maybe Fonny and Aquaman. Anyways, we love that she follows me.

[Callie Paytas]

She does.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I just found that out recently. I think she recently followed me. It makes me really scared to post content because I want to.

[Callie Paytas]

I was like, wow, how polar opposite your contents are.

[Moses]

Yeah, we just made the whole noodles with a chunk of butter and salt.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's gonna see that doing her own wheat, right? Yeah. I couldn't even melt the butter in my pasta yesterday. It was stuff. Oh, God, I would love to make content with her. That'd be great. Just me and. Me and Nara, Moses and Lucky.

[Lena Paytas]

Just.

[Moses]

I think it's probably be the opposite, huh? Probably me and her will be cooking.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you guys will be be the good looking ones.

[Lena Paytas]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're both. I was just comparing myself to a model and yes. Okay. Anyways, we love it. I love you, girl. She really is beautiful. I think she's German. She. I think she speaks German. She like makes little German candies and they always look so good. I get. She's the, she is the influencer. Those little plates that I have, the Gustav Westman ones, I saw she have them first. Like anything she has. I'm getting Moses and I will do any sort of what if they did a challenge? We're doing the challenge. If they're eating something, we're eating something. They're both very gorgeous and I'm sure their kids are beautiful and. And congrats to your big house in Connecticut. Seems very, very fitting. Well, we have one big story to go to. Before we do, I just also have to say, speaking of TikTokers, I saw TikTok. It's very sad, but I wanted to just give my support to Emily Kaiser out there. Know anything about Emily Kaiser? Emily Kaiser had to address people in the comments criticizing her for being back on social media after her loss. And she had to be like, guys, I'm showing you a clip, like clips of my life. I'm not showing my children anymore. And a lot of people had her back. I had like over 1 million likes when I saw it. And I just want to give my support too because only anyone could even know what she's going through. Grief wise. She said that she liked content creation. She enjoys it. She's just trying to do something she enjoys and I don't know, people just need to be a lot nicer. Everyone has an opinion about it. Some people are and support. Some people have an opinion. Like, I couldn't do that. How could you do that? How are you just going about J How are you creating Matcha? It's like I think everyone needs to just be quiet on this one. Just like let her, let her love her life. Like she said, grief looks different for everyone. Couldn't imagine. I think even if you've been in a similar situation would be like horrific. I still don't think you know exactly what that person's going through because it's such a different scale. She's a content creator. Things were made public that weren't supposed to be made public. She was trying to, you know, keep things private. And I think people feel entitled sometimes when you share your life or share Your kids that they feel they need to know everything. And she has decided not to share her kids anymore or not yet. She doesn't want to talk about what happened, and she's just trying to feel human again. Yeah. Just kind of. And. And I don't. I can't. Like, that's. I never talked about it because it's like, I could not even imagine. There's no words to say. Could not even imagine, like, putting, like, people like, well, that was me. I couldn't do that. It's like, you don't know. You haven't been in that situation. If you haven't the situation, you're not in her situation. And, like, just leave her alone. It bro. It, like, made me so sad because she said her son Trig's name for the first time, and it's just like, it was. It was a lot. And she very strong. She's like, I'm going to therapy. I'm dealing with the best I can. So I have. I just want to show my support and solidarity, and that's, like, the strongest person I've ever seen. So I just. And, yeah, content creation is like. Yeah, like, it's just fulfilling to some people and to a lot of people. And she's just trying to do her best, trying to, like, live life, but haven't talked about it. It's been on my heart for a very long time since it happened. We're always talking about it. Just. It's constant prayers. There's Emily Kaiser. And then Finally, Callie's favorite YouTubers back in the day, Dan and Phil. She loved Dan and Phil. She came in this morning and said, oh, my gosh, like, my boys are in the Hot Topics today.

[Moses]

Did you love them? Loved them. Wanted to date one of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, both. She's like, actually, well, now you have.

[Moses]

A chance to date both of them together.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Little challenger situation. She said, why doesn't Dan write back to me? Oh, I'm gonna try Phil. Oh, Phil's not writing back to me either. What is happening? And then Sam, like, Callie, do you feel better knowing that your childhood crushes. That is not true. Cal came in. I said, okay, our hot one day is Dan and Phil. Who's that?

[Callie Paytas]

No, that's not true.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's basically what you said. I did.

[Callie Paytas]

No, I did know that that was a story, but I was just, like, when I was talking to my friend about Hot Topics last night, because I always have brainstorming nights before the podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you didn't find out, like, only 12 hours ago. 12 hours before you went to bed. Right. I was like, cal, we need your.

[Callie Paytas]

And guess what? But immediately after, I rang up my. My friend, I was like, we gotta get on.

[Trisha Paytas]

I panicked for a minute. I said, moses, get on.

[Callie Paytas]

I'm always coming on time. I'm always on time. I got notes. I'm ready.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know. I just.

[Callie Paytas]

So when he told me, I was like, who the hell is that? Well, there you go.

[Trisha Paytas]

You didn't say that. 12 hours earlier.

[Callie Paytas]

12 hours earlier. But then I know now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cultural icons. They were the British Invasion. Are they British?

[Callie Paytas]

Yes, I think, yes, they are British.

[Trisha Paytas]

British Invasion. Dori Castelfa did collabs with them.

[Callie Paytas]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were everywhere. There was a girl named Cat. Oscar knows Cat. She would go over there and be, like, living with Dan and Phil for a while. Like, Dan and Phil were like.

[Callie Paytas]

And they've been around for so long.

[Trisha Paytas]

2009. I've been around longer.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, okay. Well, it's not a competition, but that is a very long time to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

On the very long time.

[Callie Paytas]

So.

[Trisha Paytas]

To be around. They came out. They came out. They came out in 2019. Came out again, literally. As we finished our Hot Topics on.

[Moses]

Monday, the first comments were like, hey, you guys gotta talk about this. I'm like, we just finished filming.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I literally thought. I did not know Dan. I fell for a long time either. I literally thought. Not kidding. It was me. Of Ali and aj. I thought they were like, Phil, the future. Like, for real.

[Callie Paytas]

Like, I thought that's what it was. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's Dan? And then, anyways, Dan and Phil, content creators. And are they still together? They. They revealed that they had been a couple. Yes. So since 2009, they've been together for 16 years.

[Callie Paytas]

16 years.

[Trisha Paytas]

They look 16 years old.

[Callie Paytas]

Could you imagine being in a secret relationship for that long?

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel.

[Callie Paytas]

I hope. I hope. My hope is that they have, like, some sort of, like, release getting that out, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, of course. Like, but the saddest part is losing those 16 years. Like, I'm glad they had each other. And in the video, Dan says, like, Phil was like, his safe space. Phil is like. He's like, thank you for, like, waiting for me. And Phil's like, it was hard. He's like, of course. Like, it was hard. It was like being in this back in the closet because he was out living his life and whatever. And then Dan said he talked to his therapist and his therapist, like, I think you like being in the closet. I think you like being close.

[Callie Paytas]

Do you like, being. Do you love being in the closet?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And he's like, wait, what? And he had to, like, really, like, think about it. And they thought, you know, people were trying to, like, you know, they didn't know if it was worth it. There were like, people are dragging this thing into the light. He's like, you were like, my one good thing. I didn't want to, like, ruin it, which makes sense for any relationship. But I think 1. Being in the closet, being just gay is, you know, that's like. That's like, the biggest heartbreak these days. And just like, the saddest thing. And it's just like. Like, I pray when my kids are of age where they know about sexuality and stuff like that. Like, they don't have any fears or qualms about being themselves. I hope one day no one even has to come out. Like, I hope it's not even, like, a thing. It's like, well, yeah, you're dating. Okay. You're dating a guy. You're dating a girl.

[Callie Paytas]

Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, who cares? And I hope we get there because it's so sad that they thought, like, career would be ruined. Their mental health was ruined. Like, all this stuff if someone thought that they were dating or people, like, prying. And all the people are like, I knew it. Who couldn't tell. You're not helping the situation. You missed the whole point of the video. The whole point of the video is like, they couldn't be this authentic self because people were trying to, like, drag something out of them. They were trying to protect their space. They didn't. Also not knowing and all. It's like.

[Callie Paytas]

But also, Dan had said, too, that, like, he had an extremely homophobic childhood.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Callie Paytas]

So I'm sure there was, like, a lot of internal things that he was dealing with. And some people are just not ready to come out when. When everybody. Especially online, it's hard because they.

[Trisha Paytas]

They.

[Callie Paytas]

They will just say whatever comes first to their mind.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

And it's. You gotta really take a step back and think, like, this is a person. Like, they're dealing with their own issues and they're gonna work through their stuff. And when they're ready, they'll. They'll tell you or they won't. They don't have to tell you either.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love when people. Yeah, I think we're on this. I know one of my friends, his child, like, doesn't. He doesn't know their sexuality or their, you know, like, pronouns or what they're going through. He's just like, you know, what they'll tell me if they want to tell me. Like, I don't really, you know, ask or whatever. And I think that's like, the best way to go about it because I just don't think you should have to until you have it figured out. Like, any relationship, whether you're hetero, gay, like, whatever it is, like, any relationship can be complicated and figuring things out. But then think about, like, yeah, you have a family that like, like, would just, like, disown you or something, which is, like, so awful. Like, you don't want to, like, lose your family because of someone you, like, love or who you are. I know people who, like, are who been closeted and they're in their 40s and 50s. I know, because it's just like, they can't. They can't come out because their parents. Until they're like. Until my parents are sadly dead. Like, they can't come out because they just wouldn't approve. And it's like, wow, we still live in that time and it's such a. Like a real thing. And they're quite young. I think they've been around since I was nine, but they're quite young. And, you know, well, on top of.

[Callie Paytas]

That too, like, having a public relationship is hard. So, like, you, you've been on the Internet for so long that you've made content with this person for 16 years or you've not, you know, and then you came out in 2019, and now you're just coming out to having a relationship online. So that's super public too. When it was your private, safe. A safe space, you know, which to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Their point, is so true because now they come out like, we knew it.

[Callie Paytas]

Last house.

[Trisha Paytas]

That closet was glass.

[Callie Paytas]

It's like, okay, we don't have to. We don't have to do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But this is like, what the. The. Oh, of course we knew. Of course it was this. Like, this we knew. It's just like they learned nothing from it.

[Callie Paytas]

A lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of people are supportive. There's a lot of people are just. People love to say, I told you so.

[Callie Paytas]

Like, oh, I knew it. I knew it. It's like, okay, keep that to your spirit, because who is that helping?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just no one entered the chat and was like, love this. Happy for you. Joker used to do videos with them. I don't know if this is speculation or it's been out there, but Joey, I guess, had a crush on Dan. And I was like, okay, he's probably like, wow, he didn't want to date me. I thought the same thing, actually. I really had a crush on Phil, and I was like, oh, it's kind of weird. He doesn't want to date me. I used to message him and he was like, no. And I was like, well, at least.

[Callie Paytas]

Now he knows why.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? They were in a relationship.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

That would, to me would be like, oh, it's not me. Thank God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Right, right, right. And I never messaged Phil. Just FYI. We just glossed past that. Okay. No, I knew that.

[Callie Paytas]

Sorry. I knew the bit you were doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

And sometimes, in the words of Lila Blonde, the musical, is he gay or European? We don't know. Okay. Yeah. Is he gay or European? Because sometimes it's one of the same. It's hard to tell. It's hard to decipher.

[Moses]

Or Mormon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Well, usually the Mormons aren't gay because they don't accept the gay.

[Moses]

No, I'm just saying I don't think.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can be a gay Mormon. Can you? No. Mormons. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think you have to leave happily, probably, but. Right. Like, get me out of this.

[Callie Paytas]

Maybe, though. Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

DL if you're a gay Mormon, let us know. But you're still, like, in the church. Not like, I think that's why they.

[Moses]

Have all those swingers, because then they could maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true. I guess that is. Yeah. Anyways, that's speculation. We're not here or there. Dan and Phil, we love you. Yeah. Love the hair on you, Phil. Love the bleach blonde. When I was looking back. The dark hair, not the vibe. We love the bright. You guys look bright. They're like, we're not gonna be romantic. Blogging, Glowing, happy. Oh, Phil's probably so happy.

[Callie Paytas]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're just like that married couple. Like, finally, finally we get to be a couple. And that's cute. We're here for it. We're here. We're queer. The NFL. Come on. The podcast. Love to interview you. Just getting to know who you are, but you seem pretty impactful, influential. Yeah, maybe a Hollywood reporter will put you on their list. But you're not Hollywood. You're in the uk. Could be on Bridgerton. Comes out in January. I love to see it. I love, love. Sorry, Joey. They've been in relationship 16 years. I don't know if that's gonna happen for you, but you feel good looking. Guys, you'll be fine.

[Callie Paytas]

Joey will be fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just love that they. I love that they were dating. Can I say I didn't know? Didn't say, told you so. None of that. I just, like, I kind of love that they had each other.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they were dating and I love how cute they are about it. And, like, shy they are about it. Like, he's like, well, I don't know. We're boyfriends with this. And Phil's like, okay, well, you're definitely boyfriend. Like, it just. It's cute. I like, I want to be their friends. I want to be their friends more, actually. Just know if you're gay, I like you more. Okay. Yeah.

[Callie Paytas]

I love that we favor the gays.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then we always favor the gays. Let's just be real.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, it's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Funnier and talented and better looking and.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, they smell nice. They dress nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dan and Phil pies smell amazing. I smell like chocolate and like Jo Malone.

[Callie Paytas]

Joe Malone. Oh, the candle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or even the Cologne. The Diptyque 1 ones or the petal or something.

[Callie Paytas]

Stone and salt. Salt and stone. Do you know which I'm talking about?

[Trisha Paytas]

Ice cream company.

[Callie Paytas]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Taco Tacos. Where do we get those taco tacos from? Taco Tacos. Where are those from? The red boxes.

[Moses]

Salt and stone. Is that the name? Ice cream company.

[Callie Paytas]

That's like a perfume. Deodorant company. Smells amazing. I'm wearing it today.

[Trisha Paytas]

You smell intoxicating. I smell him. I can call Dan and film Nando's.

[Callie Paytas]

I just came from their house, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, in London. Yeah, I just got the red eye. Hello. Everyone's going to London. Joey's over in London. Chris Olsen. Everyone's trying to find that Dan and Phil love over there. Jojo Siwa.

[Callie Paytas]

Okay, well, she found it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they still.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, she found it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's thriving. She was. She just did her karma dance. She's wearing a splinged out sports bra. We love to see. I love Dan and Phil. I love. Like I said, it's crazy that you have to come out, but we love it. I guess it's better to break the story than have someone be like, look at them holding hands. Like a gotcha sort of thing. It's like, all right, weirdos will tell you. Yes. He said he didn't believe in marriage, though. Phil said Dan didn't believe in marriage. Like, why aren't you married? He's like, dan doesn't believe in it. I was like, dan put a ring on it. Because at the end of the day.

[Callie Paytas]

I'm the same way. You don't have to be married, but.

[Moses]

Especially if they hide it, they definitely wouldn't want to be oh, right. Because then there's some public record somewhere or somebody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Moses]

Ring.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have to be married.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah, I'll take a ring.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. I always get a ring, Ellie. I always say that if there's one couple, if there's one that wants to get married, one that doesn't, I'm like, let's just do an engagement. Don't you have to get married? Just get that ring. I would have been fine with that, man. Look, I want to be married. You want to be married. But if you didn't want to be married but can't have a ring, at least, and then we're cool. Because I love the ring anyways.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it really. Literally nothing changes. Except it's more complicated when you get divorced. Spousal support for years, but, you know, books put in the work, also put on the work. You know what I mean? What did Kayfab do for Brittany? What did Austin McBroom do for Catherine besides humiliate her? Oh, my God, they showed the ring. His ring that was worth a million compared to Igor's ring. For Catherine, that was worth 40,000. But just her, Glowing and just so much happier.

[Callie Paytas]

She looked beautiful at that wedding.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gorge. You know where it was bleep it really? She looked really pretty. Gorgeous, glowing. She's like the kids, when they wait for him to come home. Like, I'm not gonna go to sleep until Igor comes home. And. And you fumbled it, Austin. You fumbled it. Imagine just handing your family over, just being like. Because you. You couldn't try. You couldn't keep loyal. You know what I mean? Everything happens for a reason. I do believe that too. A lot of people are like, wow, he really fumbled it. Like, she's so much happier. I think they're planning on having two more kids. They said, wow, the kids seem happier. I know with my parents divorce, they're like, oh, my God, this sucks. But you know what? My sister wouldn't have been here if they didn't divorce. So you always have to see the silver lining. Everything does happen for a reason. And you gotta learn life lessons sometimes. So love it all. I love you guys. Well, second co host just got here. Been here for a minute. Our expert at all things abc, Dancing with the Stars and Golden Bachelor. And a recap of our Vegas trip coming up next. My mom, Lena Paytas. Callie Paytas Metz. Do you have anything you can say? We're all just hyphenated. Well, when you come in, it says Callie Paytas.

[Callie Paytas]

It does. And I don't know who did the that because one time I had to show my ID and they're like, did you change your name? I'm like, then I had to lie. And I said, yeah, I just got married. Why would I lie?

[Moses]

But I want to get in the gate. You don't get to start the getting.

[Callie Paytas]

Married because I think that was more sensible. Now, this is a true story. That was more sensible than going through, like. Well, me and my sister were half siblings. I don't know who has her last name, but we are sisters. That would have been like, now she's lying. The marriage thing seems more believable. Tell me I'm wrong. That seems legit anyway.

[Moses]

Well, we gotta ask the security guard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we'll ask him. Don't ask any party words. You say goodbye last time. Would you like to say goodbye? We'll be back.

[Callie Paytas]

Well, thank you for having me. Love you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love you. You look beautiful. Catch my sister streaming on Twitch at Calgary143. Go see her extended interview on our Patreon later in November. Cali, we love you. Thank you for being the the. You're not just a fill in. You're co host number four. Oh, yeah, right. Oscars one co host, two co. Oh, you're coast three.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, I'll take lucky number three.

[Trisha Paytas]

Number four is behind you. So. Wow.

[Callie Paytas]

All right. Thanks for having me.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're all the same. We all. Now you said everyone thinks you look like mom and with your banks like that.

[Callie Paytas]

Come here, my twin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Do a side by side. Get in that frame with her. Get next to each other, like face to face. Oh, that she wants is another baby. She's gone tomorrow, but all that she wants is another baby.

[Lena Paytas]

Are we going?

[Trisha Paytas]

Are we ready?

[Callie Paytas]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

My mom said get those cameras rolling. I got something to show you. Well, this is all Cali.

[Lena Paytas]

We're like putting on these hoodies today and we're like, this is a new way to wear them if you want to be snatched. Callie said you put a pony tie in the back and then look. And now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, let me see. Your snatched. A two in one hoodie. Okay. It's like a p. Wow.

[Lena Paytas]

Good idea. I'm like, how you doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Yes.

[Callie Paytas]

I don't know if this is very podcast.

[Moses]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You know, cuz I think I'm oversized.

[Lena Paytas]

When you want and then you can have it when you want to be a little more.

[Trisha Paytas]

They want to show up that figure, honey, show it off. You look great. You look amazing. No, you guys look great. Amazing. Okay. Black hoodies. Moses, where's your black hoodie? You didn't get the memo, Moses.

[Moses]

I was showing the details of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, got it.

[Callie Paytas]

All right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bye, California. And she left.

[Callie Paytas]

Bye.

[Trisha Paytas]

I gotta go. All right, we're going. Go into it, Mom.

[Lena Paytas]

Close enough.

[Moses]

Now.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were way behind. We were like. I was saying, we were doing. We. We did tap dance this morning, me and Moses. Then we had to do our taxes. We did tap dancing.

[Lena Paytas]

You like it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we. We did. I think we did pretty good. I think we're gonna crush it. Then we had to finish our taxes. Then we. I was, like, so hungry. So then I had to get a. Like, a little snack. Moses had to scan it. The papers. And then what else we're doing? We had open this.

[Callie Paytas]

There was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, there's, like, a lot happening.

[Lena Paytas]

You have no time for the podcast today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. It was. It really does go by fast. The podcast is way fast. And then I was like, okay, let me. It took us a minute to get it all.

[Lena Paytas]

I actually love that poster. Congratulations.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. Everybody's like, oh, I want it in Toronto.

[Lena Paytas]

I want it in Minnesota.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. We'll. We're gonna. Hopefully we'll go on more. We'd love to do Trish every year. We'd love to come back. Oh.

[Moses]

X. To see if something is trending. And on Entertainment number two is Trisha Paytas announces Trishma's live 2025 North American holiday Tour. Yeah, but just now, mine is still trending.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, maybe it's because you only follow me.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm gonna see if it's on mine.

[Moses]

I didn't see an entertainment.

[Lena Paytas]

That's amazing. But yeah, everybody wants you in their town. Boston, Jerry. Sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boston. York. Boston is our big one. Oh, I know. Well, New York. I'm gonna be there for a month doing Beetlejuice. So I'm like, everyone comes to Beetlejuice if you're in New York, but I.

[Lena Paytas]

Guess they can't get on enough of you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's under entertainment, you said?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, I see it. I see it. Wow. Yeah. That's cool. Trisha Paytas announced his Trishma's line. I love your outfit. Oh, my gosh, thank you. I'll be wearing it there. Are you gonna come to some of the shows, Mom?

[Callie Paytas]

Of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

My mom will be there.

[Lena Paytas]

Definitely. Thousand Oaks.

[Callie Paytas]

Definitely this fan. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just saw this one. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City recreated the Desperate Housewives cover a Vanity Fair.

[Lena Paytas]

Oh, they look pretty good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love both Well, I love Jess Brow swipes. I don't know if the Housewives.

[Lena Paytas]

I don't go on X. Yeah. Does anybody call Twitter anymore?

[Moses]

No, just believers. We literally just had the conversation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, my God, you guys. We really do. You and Callie have the same. She said the same thing. Who calls it ex?

[Lena Paytas]

Wasn't Kanye. Wasn't he an ex or something?

[Trisha Paytas]

That seems right. I'm sure Kanye, Elon, all those people are Xers. How are you? How's everybody? Everything? I am great. You have notes. So happy. Oh, my gosh. This is gonna be a four hour long episode. I love it.

[Lena Paytas]

There's lots happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can we show your notes or is there anything scandalous on them?

[Lena Paytas]

No. First of all, I want everybody to know that congratulations first on Beetlejuice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you.

[Lena Paytas]

And I bet a lot of people don't know you're gonna have to do your own makeup, but you always say.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't do my makeup right. Yeah. They have to figure it out. Hopefully they teach me. Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

I think you said they do.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's right.

[Lena Paytas]

Every night. You have to do it. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready for that challenge. I like it. I love getting glam, but it is a luxury where it's just like, yeah, I'm excited to do my own. I mean, that's what all the real Broadway actors do. They do their own hair, makeup, even, like the big leads, the. The glam. All of it. They all do it all. They look good. I hope I get a lesson. If not, I'm gonna have to wing it. I love the Just Trish. So much merch. Just all Just Trish.

[Lena Paytas]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Callie Paytas]

And.

[Trisha Paytas]

Blast. Wow. Do you see? The company made that did for me, didn't they? Did you sell these? I think a company sold it. Yeah. Were you. Did you know me when those enamel pins were being sold?

[Moses]

Oh, wait, I just.

[Lena Paytas]

I found it in Poshmark.

[Moses]

Because in the bedroom we have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you do? I think a company sold them on my behalf. I think. I think. I can't remember. We sold them because maybe I love it.

[Moses]

No, on the tour. Did somebody send. Anyway, I don't know. For some reason I have in the bedroom one of those and breast cancer.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was just gonna say happy. These. Both.

[Lena Paytas]

She gave me these right when I was diagnosed in 2015.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Callie Paytas]

10 years.

[Lena Paytas]

Just 10 years. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had the David Yurman one. Oh, yeah. All of them.

[Lena Paytas]

Yes, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Happy Breast Cancer awareness month there.

[Lena Paytas]

And get your mammograms, everybody, please.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I Got not just women, everybody. Yeah, you're right. I have to get mine both. My. My grandma, my. My dad's mom passed away from breast cancer in her 50s. My mom was diagnosed with breast cancer in her 50s. So I definitely need to get right.

[Lena Paytas]

Checked younger than they usually said back in the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

So if you can get it early. Early right. Detection is always great. So go get. As Rosie o' Donnell said, she's have a song called get em Squished. Get em Squished. Because sometimes you have to think.

[Lena Paytas]

I have to say, I mean, I still have to get my right one done. But it's. They don't seem to squish as bad. I mean, some would just. You could be brought to tears.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Back in the day, they were like, yeah. Oh, no. Yeah.

[Moses]

So.

[Lena Paytas]

And also, thank you for taking me Las Vegas to Alex Cooper's. Unwell.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. How was that? That's why I want to bring you. We didn't get a full recollection of the trip last Hot Topics. We kind of skimmed past it.

[Lena Paytas]

So I was amazed. I was amazed how she had everything planned. And then I know how you scroll through Tick tock. And I was looking through one of her tic tacs and I'm like, wait, was that Trisha?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a cardboard. How do you caught that? I told Moses this morning. You caught like literally a second. Half a second of someone showing my Arby's cutout. Cardboard cutout. Arby's had a booth at the Unwell convention and there was a cardboard cut out of me. And my mom saw it in. In someone else's TikTok, by the way. Not Alex Cooper, not Unwell, just like a random TikTok. I had to, like, look up the name. When you showed it to me, I was like, what is this TikTok? And it was like a half a second in someone's vlog.

[Moses]

Did you even know that there was a cut out of you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they had told me, but I hadn't seen it. I wish I forgot because they had told me, but I wasn't in that area. I wish I would have known.

[Lena Paytas]

I mean, they must have more than one around this world of you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, I don't think so. I think they made just one for that event. I would have loved to have gone. I didn't even know there was an Arby's booth because. Shout out Arby's. This was my third partnership with Arby's. Love Arby's. They partner, obviously with a lot of creators they were also at F1 this weekend. They had a really cool Arby's jacket. Arby's. If you're listening, I would love that F1 racing jacket.

[Moses]

It.

[Trisha Paytas]

That said Arby's. It was so cool. They are the sponsor of the sponsor. They are the it girls. They are the influential influencer food. And I got a partnership with them. And they're like, oh, we're gonna do like a cardboard cutout of you. And I would have loved to see it. I would have gone to the booth itself. I love. I just ordered myself off the RV shop. It's upstairs. But it's like the Arby's. There's like an Arby's retro, like, leather bag, and it's so cool. Like, I love Arby's. So I didn't know that was gonna be there. How you saw that? How you caught it? How did you catch it? It was even me because it was like a glimpse. It was like.

[Lena Paytas]

It was a. I, you know, I'm watching.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you're good. I will never question my mom. I'll be like, oh, mom doesn't know. Whatever. I used to be like that sometimes you should question me. No, you know, everything. And my mom will follow up too, like, if we, like. I'm like, no, I don't think that's what it was. Mom. My mom will, like, find something at midnight and send to me, like, here it is. Here's the article. I was like, all right.

[Lena Paytas]

Was that in the Cosmo? All those boosts like that?

[Trisha Paytas]

It must have been.

[Lena Paytas]

That was pretty neat.

[Trisha Paytas]

They had a lot going on. I wish you would have gone to the Boots. I didn't know that was happening either. Yeah, that would have been fun.

[Lena Paytas]

We had a lot crammed in though, that day.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. We had. We landed. We were supposed to land at 1. We landed, what, 3:30?

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then we left the hotel at 4am the next day. So it was like a 12 hour trip in Vegas. Basically. We had. And yeah, we went with Tana, which was like, super fun. I actually didn't know. I didn't know Tana. Like, I know Tana, right? She's always like, private jets and traveling with like a posse. So in my mind, you know, I was like, oh, we didn't know if Moses wouldn't come or my mom. And then ultimately we're like, like, because we couldn't get a flight home that night, we're like, okay, well, we don't want to stay a night away from the kids, so we're like, okay, my mom will come with us. And then I was like, okay, we'll just, like, go. I'm more. I just don't love a private jet. It's not even. The cost is crazy. Carbon footprint, another thing. But also, I don't know, I'm just like, weirdly, like, I never liked them as a kid. I used to watch, like, the Buddy Holly Story and Richie Valens. I was like, oh, not my thing. They're probably safe, I'm sure all that stuff, I don't know. Not my thing. And sometimes if you just don't feel it, just don't go. So I was like, I am a commercial girly through and through. We did Alaska Airlines on the way home, but on the way there, we did Jet Suite X because I don't know why.

[Lena Paytas]

We just went out of Burbank.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I went out of Burbank, so it's closer. But we were delayed there by two hours. Saw Ali Wong, Bill Hader. We talked about last Hot Topic. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was good. Yeah. How was it for you? Because I told my experience. How was it for you?

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, it was really fun. I mean, I was. Everybody looked beautiful, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

And how was the plane ride? How is it sitting on the tarmac for an hour and a half?

[Moses]

Half.

[Lena Paytas]

You know, I had never. I only had to do that one other time in San Francisco. But at least we had a big sourdough piece of bread.

[Trisha Paytas]

They didn't have any food, you know.

[Lena Paytas]

Which nobody had really eaten because what do we take off it? We were supposed to leave at noon or 1.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're like, oh, we'll eat when we get there.

[Lena Paytas]

Everybody was hungry.

[Trisha Paytas]

And seeing my mom is just like me. We are panicked with food. When there's no food around.

[Lena Paytas]

I usually take a little couple snacks. I thought, oh, you know, it's only 45 minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought the same. I thought, well, at the airport, I love getting snacks. And I didn't realize Jet Sweet X. Like, all they had was literally, like, free little cheez its bags. I was like, well, no, luckily. Oh, my God, Tana, she had. She flies out of there a lot. So she had Chick Fil A postmated there. And then she even asked me, so, do you want Chick Fil A? And I was like, no. Like, I thought it was gonna be, like, cold or whatever like that. But anyways, she had ordered grilled chicken nuggets, but they also gave her, like, a regular nuggets. And she can't eat it because she's, like, doing gluten free now. And she's like, do you want them? Like no one's gonna eat them. And I was like, honestly, thank God. Because I was like like truly like that's like even today we had to get a snack cuz I was like, I don't think I can like make it through a hot topic. Like I don't know. Remember back in the day when I just like wouldn't eat food for like three days? And I was like, how, how did I not eat?

[Lena Paytas]

Slim fast though the shakes I want.

[Trisha Paytas]

You fits your mind.

[Lena Paytas]

You just got to put your mind to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think so. I try to put my mind to it and my stomach is, I'm going to pass out. Like.

[Lena Paytas]

Well yeah, I do a lot. You're really busy. I think when you're busy you need to get that fuel in your stomach.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I, I, I have to like even this day I like. Oh, I'll try and wait till after the podcast E because we're gonna go to go to Patreon again. We're gonna do a little boo basket. Not boo basket buckets at oh, Duncan and Burger King. I don't think McDonald's is out yet. We would try that, right?

[Lena Paytas]

Actually maybe 21st.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So we might go do that after. But yeah, when I don't have food, I panic. I panic so much. It's like very, it's probably not good. It's probably why I have issues with food because I have to like, I don't know, just, you know, that's why.

[Lena Paytas]

When I bartended I always try to work like, like at a hotel or somewhere where they had food so you could have some or if you just work at a bar, there's really not food. And like I might get hungry on an eight hour shift. You know, it's like that's how I pick my jobs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, I mean but that's the food valid. And we're. Who has good food too. Is that so we did end up going to Golden Steer. Did you like that?

[Lena Paytas]

That was amazing. Holly was so sweet too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was that your first? You met her? I had, yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

When she came to Malibu's birthday party and that lobster. Oh, that's just worth the tr Not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I really was like told most of me. I really feel like we should go for like two hours and come back because it's so good.

[Lena Paytas]

But all the butter they provided, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mean usually they're chancy but well, Holly asked for it. They came out with the smaller one and she gets Big dipping ones.

[Lena Paytas]

That was great.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good. That one I'm really manifesting. We say this all Vegas residency. I would love to, like, live and perform in Vegas for like three months straight. And I would love to go to Golden Steer every nights and the Holly Madison Elvis Presley booth. I want to see Donny Osmond. I want to see Backstreet Boys. I want to live in the penthouse. Like, I just, I. We didn't get to experience it enough. Even like shopping. We went to Van cleef for like 10 minutes because we were trying to get these bracelets. Tana did get the necklace. She texted me. She got the necklace, I got the bracelet. Everything was so fast and such a whirlwind. And the show, all of it was. Just happened so, so fast, so quickly.

[Lena Paytas]

And that restaurant was like old Vegas with patent leather, red circular booze.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was just cool people. Yeah, yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

People dressed up. A lot of guys my age, like, in the bar area at their table. So, yeah, I hope you get that three month residency.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we're ready. I perform at the Golden Steer. I don't care. Like, I'll do. I'll do anything.

[Callie Paytas]

I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to take everyone to that restaurant that might be.

[Lena Paytas]

Maybe they'll put you up for a show then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'll sing in the lounge. I'll sing anywhere they want me to. I was so great. Alex Cooper, I just love her.

[Lena Paytas]

It was nice catching up with Halle, too, and asking her things. Things that we have always wondered, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. Holly's the best. I love hanging out with her. And she did. She stayed with us like the whole night, which was like super fun. Like, she's busy and all this stuff like that. So it was cool that she, like stayed. And she's been on Call Her Daddy twice, which was cool. So it's just like. Yeah. And so we all knew Alex. Alex was gorge.

[Lena Paytas]

Very and very.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't it crazy? What does she sell? Call her daddy. She originally was sold for like $60 million, her first deal. And the second one was how much? 160 million. Wow.

[Moses]

I don't know if the number was 180 disclosed.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it was. It was like something like 100 million. Over 100 million the second time.

[Callie Paytas]

Wow.

[Lena Paytas]

I didn't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it was 160 million. I think the second time. Crazy.

[Lena Paytas]

That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then she's just like this young, cute girl. I was like, how are you? Like, how do you like how? It's like. It's insane. And also she's just really Nice.

[Callie Paytas]

I like the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was good. And we got to hang out with Tana like the whole time, which also really fun.

[Lena Paytas]

She's sweet girl, just very sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sweet, yeah. Tana's like just hyper but sweet.

[Lena Paytas]

But you know, she's in her 20s. You should be hyper.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, she has like so much energy. But again, like you said, I think 20s, but I don't remember having that much energy in my 20s. Probably not. Well, she's very.

[Lena Paytas]

She's high on life. Not drug wise or anything, but just high in life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Happy girl. We're very opposite when it comes to social batteries like her. She like thrives around being like around a ton of people.

[Moses]

She does.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need like a recoup, you know, even here in the house, like, I'll be like, I need to go like upstairs for an hour and just like a recoup silently. She does not need a recoup moment. She can just be around 20, 50 people. Even after the show's like, I'm going. She had like a club appearance. It might have been like a, like a hosting job or something like that. But I was like, how, how do you have the energy? Because we've been, we're going all day. And she did her own glam. She looked very pretty. And we sat across from each other on the plane. So we just, just talk and talk. My voice was out the next day. My voice was completely out. But it was fun. I would do it again. I hope if unwell do it again. I loved it.

[Moses]

So Spotify paid them 60 million in 2021 for three years. Just for three years. Exclusive. And then SiriusXM paid 125 million. Wow. In 2024 for a multi year.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh my.

[Lena Paytas]

Well, good for you, Alex Cooper.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she's like the blueprint.

[Moses]

Especially what she did with it because like let's say Joe Rogan, he's number one. He got 100 million from Spotify at the time, but he just kept doing his podcast and that's it. But she opened the whole network.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And she getting other people into the business and she's supporting so many other creators and creating shows and movies and she's.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we know of two shows, the I think the Mary Harry ones out there, Mary Harris, Netflix, and then the one with Gabby's hosting a dating show that they did, that they produced. So. So she's producing the water, the festival, like, and she's on it like you saw. She's like, okay, we're gonna do this. We're doing this TikTok with this so that she's just like. And also very sweet and very nice and very pretty. And she's younger than me. She's like 30. Like girl. That's amazing. Good for her. Inspiring. It is inspiring. Good for her love. And all in all girls should think so. That was fun. So true.

[Lena Paytas]

Okay, mine. Me next.

[Moses]

Next.

[Trisha Paytas]

All you. Mom, this is all you. I have some too, but like, go, I want to hear yours.

[Lena Paytas]

Well, I was just saying I heard you guys talk about the cosmetic surgery of. Of Chris.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it.

[Lena Paytas]

I should go by Jenner Kardashian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jenner, I believe.

[Lena Paytas]

Okay, that's a good point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why did she pick stay with Jenner after divorcing? Why did she not go back to her maiden name? Or why did you not go back to Kris Kardashian? I don't know.

[Moses]

Don't you stay with the last one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, my mom is Lena Paytas this.

[Moses]

But she chose to go back to that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I'm asking, like, why don't you think Chris chose.

[Moses]

But most people stay with the name that they have because then they don't have to take any action. You don't have to do anything. That's your thing.

[Lena Paytas]

Like I did because of my kids are named.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but most people divorce and go back to their maiden name. Why did you choose that, though?

[Lena Paytas]

Because you guys. Well, I was working at the school at the time, so I wanted to have the same name as you guys. You know, I want to change our name.

[Trisha Paytas]

I keep telling Mo, let's like legally change ours to pay to tackle too. So we're all paid Attack Hackman's. Yeah, because our kids are Paytas Hackman. It was cool because when we talked into Disney, like, I always booked the hotels just because, like, I know, I just. I like booking hotels. So it'd always say, like, welcome Pete's family, Mr. Ms. Paytas. Whatever. And this one said Peter's Hackman.

[Lena Paytas]

So both of you aren't Paytas Hatman.

[Trisha Paytas]

Neither one of us are. I'm pay us. He's Hackman. We're married together. We're a paid Attack moon. Oh, yes, that. Very much that. And our kids are paid as Hackman. So, like, it does make sense if we're traveling to be the Paytas Hackman family. So we might. I like when people put that on, like cards or whatever they sent us. So.

[Moses]

Yeah, no, we want to.

[Trisha Paytas]

You want to change your name?

[Moses]

I don't mind it. Like I said, it's more the actual bureaucracy of it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The technicality of changing Social Security and everything.

[Moses]

Changing everything. And that's. That is a big headache.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe in our 10 years when we're for sure with each other, maybe we're.

[Moses]

Not so busy with the kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. We've been 20 years.

[Lena Paytas]

Okay.

[Callie Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

The time in the world.

[Lena Paytas]

So true. But then, you know, I was watching a movie talking about plastic surgeries. I didn't even recognize Zac Efron. He had that movie with Nicole Kidman.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love that movie.

[Lena Paytas]

And I'm like, wow, he's just. I mean, I hadn't seen him since.

[Trisha Paytas]

What heist. Wow, he does look different than when he was 18.

[Callie Paytas]

I know, but he just.

[Lena Paytas]

He just looks so different. And now what's coming out is. Was it Bradley Cooper? Got. Have you seen. They're comparing him to being looking like Barry Manilow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. Was he playing Barry Manilow in a movie?

[Lena Paytas]

No, but they put him side by side and they're saying his plastic surgery looks just like him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. He looks like Martin Short kind of too. What is that?

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, look really open. I'll just say that it's kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Screenshot so we can send that to Jimmy. Oh, that's crazy. That's. That.

[Lena Paytas]

No, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Why do people.

[Lena Paytas]

And I get it, he's going with a younger girl too.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he looked good before. He wasn't especially. I think everyone. I'm so against all past surgeries, but I think. I think especially men. Like, let's not like men. You're lucky. I'll tell you what, you're lucky because you can be old and people find you attractive. You can be wrinkly and gross and people find you attractive. Girls, we're always like, oh, we need to have no wrinkles. And skin type guys just go like, they look better older. Every guy looks better older. You know, you've got Jason momoa in his 40s versus him at 18. I'm like him at 18. No, him at 45. Yes, and he's only 50.

[Lena Paytas]

It's so sad that he thought he had to do that. I think riley hooper's only 50.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like what? Like which of your Moses too. I think you look better now. Although you're very handsome as a young boy too. But better now. Everyone ages better. Maybe not Johnny Depp. He looks a little. He did. He was aging better. Like when he was in his 40s. Then something happened and then you're just like.

[Moses]

Well, usually people consume either alcohol or drugs. It really ages you a certain way. Even cigarettes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So just Drink Coca cola. You should be a spokesperson for them because that's almost drinks every night. Can, of course.

[Moses]

Coke. I don't. I drink like a mini coke once a day with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, once.

[Moses]

Dinner. No, cuz you say all I drink is coke, people would think I drink it throughout the day. But I'm saying there are people that drink soda all day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well you don't drink wine. You just drink coke is what I'm saying.

[Moses]

All you drink. I don't consume alcohol hardly ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we try. I try. I get a little sick. I'm like, I don't know if I can do coke. Alcohol. Oh, I love Coca Cola.

[Lena Paytas]

I Love Coke too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dr. Pepper.

[Lena Paytas]

They need to sponsor the Paidus Hackman family.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love the Ollipop too. We're not sponsor day. I love the Olipop too. I really love anything carbonated.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, it just kind of. Just settles you down. I don't know what it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's got a lot of little refresher.

[Callie Paytas]

A little, Little kick. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Little bite back for sure. Was that your plus surgery? Were you talking about Kris Jenner or.

[Moses]

No.

[Lena Paytas]

Oh, well, she looks great. I mean, you know, she's like, you know, people are hating on her, but it's like, you know, it's her money. Let her do it it. And she goes, she goes, I'm never going to have my hands done because that tells a story. And I'm like, well, you can't have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your hands done anyways because veins. That's why people wear gloves.

[Lena Paytas]

Could always put gloves.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I know everyone's saying Dylan Efron now is. Everyone's on that kick. They're like, he's. He's getting better looking than his brother. They're saying, really?

[Lena Paytas]

Everyone loves D. I. I think Zach's better looking.

[Trisha Paytas]

So handsome. I really don't think anyone gets better looking than that Dylan. Everyone's cute. Doesn't have the star quality to me as far as. Right.

[Lena Paytas]

He doesn't have rugged features. I. I don't think. Not that I've looked that close, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

You didn't watch Dancing with the Stars last night.

[Lena Paytas]

No, I didn't, mom.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was.

[Lena Paytas]

What happened? Well, nobody went off. I know, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, mom just knows when someone goes off. She doesn't watch the show. She'll just spoil it for me. And I, you know, I love a spoiler, but like, not that much of a spoiler because I like to watch that night or the night, the next night. And so they. They eliminate them after each show. It's not you have to wait the next night. So I was like, oh, I can't wait. Then my mom tells me. I'm like, well, I guess I really need to watch it.

[Lena Paytas]

I knew they didn't eliminate anybody anyway, but I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it was dedication night, and I don't think they've ever done this, but I loved it. I cried. I sent you the Robert Irwin one. I was like, oh, my God, I just sent you that one. That one was beautiful. That one had to be.

[Lena Paytas]

I love that family. I followed Steve when he was the Crocodile Hunter and when he would get on Johnny Carson with all his animal. He had so much enthusiasm and energy. And I, his. You know, Terry, his wife, she said, you know, she hasn't dated because she goes, I've had the best. You know, what's it been, 20 years now? It's like, wow, to have a love like that. I just am so in awe.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. She's just like, yeah, I've had the best. I raised my kids. Oh, my God, you'd be so proud. And then, like you said, I think that's why, like, watching them dance, like, he is a very good dancer, as was Bindi, obviously. But then that emotion behind it, that extra story, for some reason, that dance just, like, made me cry. Like, at the end, his mom comes and I'm just like, oh, my gosh. And I think it's. I think it was you'll be in my heart by Phil Collins. Collins from Tarzan, which is also just like, a really emotional song. It's like, you'll be in my heart from this day now. It's just like, oh, God, that song makes me cry. And that was so good. Shame on those judges. I really think they need to get new judges because how. How. How did that get. Who got all nines? Dylan Efron. Look, I am not Dylan Efron. I like him. I like Dylan Ephron. I love that he did rewrite the stars. One of our favorite songs from Greatest Showman, it's Zac Efron's song. He danced with his little sister Olivia. Like, it was beautiful, but it wasn't. Wasn't technically as great as Robert Irwin's. It wasn't. The choreography wasn't as good as his. It didn't have the same. Like, you know, it wasn't as emotional. Like, how did that score all nines? And Alex Earl didn't get all nines. Algeria was. I think hers was the best of the night. I liked Robert because of the story and the connection, but Alex was, like, the Best technically choreography. The sister was really good.

[Callie Paytas]

That Carrie.

[Trisha Paytas]

She.

[Callie Paytas]

She.

[Trisha Paytas]

She scores too low. I think she's a little bit of a hater. I'm not trying to be a hater on another female.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, they've been on Tick Tock, people saying that they need to do all fresh judges. You know, I mean, they've been on there, what, how long?

[Trisha Paytas]

Since the beginning. Bruno and Carrie Ann have been there since the beginning.

[Lena Paytas]

I mean. Yeah, I need to change it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I just don't think it's, like, a fair judging. Bruno has a percent. I like Carrie Ann. I think she's nice. I think her judging is really off. I think it's never accurate. Yeah, Derek. I like Derek better as a pro. He was such a good dancer.

[Lena Paytas]

I. I miss him as dancer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, when you watch Mark Ballas, like, he's, like, the best, like, choreographer and the best dancer their routine wasn't. You see that one with Whitney and her husband?

[Lena Paytas]

No, I'm not a fan of her, so I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, do you watch anything that she's done?

[Lena Paytas]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I know what you mean. I think on the outside, because we don't know anything about her. Like, Mormon wife. I've grown to like her because I know she had, like, Scandal on TikTok. Like, I've grown to like her. I think she goes through some unfair hate. And I like her on dancing. I think she's good at dancing. I love her Hamilton routine, the one with the husband, which I would have liked because I thought about this if I was on, like, Dedication, because they've never done this where they. Their family dances with them. Right. And I was like, God, who would I have danced with? Because I really do think. And I'm just saying it because you guys are here, but my three people would be you, Moses, or Malibu, because each of you have, like, changed my life in a good way. Like, you know, you saved my life in some way. Like, you got me to Hollywood, Moses got me to sanity. And then Malibu has kept me there, you know, like, to not go. So I'm like, God, who would I dance with? That'd be so. Because Jen from Mormon Wives danced with her mom, and I thought that was really beautiful because her mom was there when she gave birth. Like, I thought that was really beautiful. Whitney danced with her husband. And in theory, that's why I was bringing up. In theory. I love it. I was like, yes, absolutely. Like, you have that strong thing. It was just a weird dance. It looked a weird, like, almost like a Three. Like a menagerie or something. It looked very weird because they were like. I don't know. Because, you know, I loved Ezra when he had his partner dancing with her dad and kind of just like, let them dance. And it wasn't this, like, weird throuple thing. Right. Theirs was a little more, like, thruffly. It was kind of odd. And they were good dancers, and Moses is a very good dancer. So I know we would eat because you are good as tap dancing. This morning. I was like, wow. We'd done ballet together. You professionally did, like, lyrical dance. And I was just like, we would eat. But then it was something beautiful, too. Seeing Jen and her mom, because not everyone danced with their mom, I felt like. Like that. Not everyone gets to dance with their parents because they get older and they're not able to dance or they're not here with us. So I was torn. I'm glad I wasn't on the season because I was. I'm like. I don't know who I'd pick. It would be so hard. I suppose if you're looking for the point points, you probably pick, like, you know, like Dylan with his sister Olivia. You can't hate on a kid. Or who was Andy Richter with his daughter. Like, can't hate on the little girl. Like, she's just a little girl and they do.

[Lena Paytas]

But they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, right. Shame on you guys.

[Lena Paytas]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's a little girl dancing. You know what I mean? Like, I think that's why they didn't send anyone home, because, like, Andy Richter will probably be the next to go home. Not because of his daughter dance, but he's just, like, not as good. Not as popular as people. But I did.

[Callie Paytas]

I thought it was cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought him dancing with his daughter was cute. I was like, you know what?

[Moses]

They.

[Trisha Paytas]

They did that. Who else was up? Alex Rose. Her sister was really good. Her sister is, like, a wonderful dancer. And, oh, Danielle, Topanga from Boy meets World with Mr. Feeny. 98 years old.

[Moses]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see him?

[Lena Paytas]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was there. He was on the. He did the little. He was just kind of stood in the classroom. He didn't really dance.

[Lena Paytas]

I'll see him on Tic Tacs today when I go through my.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I can't wait to watch.

[Callie Paytas]

It was so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was such a good. We could watch it tonight, too, when you're over here for our festival.

[Lena Paytas]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Lena Paytas]

Another thing, if I do win the lotto, because they say Robert Irwin's on there to help save the Australian zoo, I will Help give them money to help save that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Winning a lotto. Oh. Oh my God. Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

He does really animal thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I think that also. Is that an extra element. Right. It's like they're just doing stuff to help animals. You know, they're like preserving wildlife and educating people about animals and. Yeah, it is.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah. Speaking of the animals, San Diego Zoo, they want. Want Zeus to be more of like a rescue instead of saying zoos. Because there was a gorilla that broke the glass between them and the people there, he. He got. He broke the first layer. I guess there's three layers. But so they had to. There's close. That exhibit. But they said that they're going to be taken care of, don't worry. But they, they thought, you know, his, their brother died. That was 10 years old. As I thought they were still grieving. And you know how some people torment them over the glass.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, the gori. Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

And I think he was a silverback. Is that the big one or something? That's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he was, you know, just looking at a gorilla, you're like, those should not be in captivity. Like, what. Why would you ever try to cage something like that? You know what I mean? Like, these are majestic. Yeah, they're huge. They're majestic. They're not supposed to be trained and fed bananas or whatever they're feeding. Like they're supposed to be in with their.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Other gorillas.

[Lena Paytas]

They showed the gorilla attack him on tick tock. Like, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

I lucky didn't go and do it all, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's. It's tough because like it. Zoos are fun because like little kids like love animals but at the same time it's like that's just not good for them. I don't know if I could fully see that or support that anymore. That's sad. I mean, what do they expect? I mean this is like always it seems it happens a lot. Like the gorillas are like grabbing a kid or something. It's like. Yeah, they're wild. Huge animals.

[Lena Paytas]

Like at the end of the day. Yeah, they're wild.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's. They're supposed to be. They can't be tamed, as Miley Cyrus says. Where was that? You said?

[Lena Paytas]

San Diego Zoo.

[Trisha Paytas]

San Diego Zoo. When?

[Lena Paytas]

A Saturday.

[Moses]

Yeah, I saw a video of it.

[Lena Paytas]

It's recent, so I felt so he was. I mean there's so majestic, beautiful creatures. I've.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

You know, and then to lose a brother like that and then have all these people, you know.

[Callie Paytas]

Ah.

[Lena Paytas]

Across the class I wonder what they're thinking, because they're very intelligent, of course. You know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, think about. We're hauled in captivity. If we're held behind glass.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're only with our two family members, and they die. It's like. What do you mean? Like, we just watched them die, and now we have to be, like, just looked at and like, it's inhumane. I hate that so much. I didn't know that was sad. Oh, my God.

[Lena Paytas]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a sad.

[Lena Paytas]

That was my animal story for today, but Golden Bachelor. Golden Bachelor, that's tonight, right? Yeah, we watched it last week.

[Trisha Paytas]

How we feeling about this season?

[Lena Paytas]

Well, first of all, let's go back. Jerry is writing a memoir.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Lena Paytas]

And it's supposed to be out November 4th. And he's telling Teresa nich be worried about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. What's with these men? Be worried.

[Lena Paytas]

They say that allegedly that's what I read. But I read also that she was reading up on how to. To win up the Bachelor show. So I'm thinking it's like, just agree with everything and say, oh, yeah, I'm gonna. She said she was gonna quit her job and they would relocate, and then she got picked, and then she's like, no, I still want to work. And allegedly I'm reading this, though. But it's like, yeah, I mean, why do you want to win that?

[Moses]

Where do you even read that? Where do you. Is there Golden Bachelor for Dummies?

[Lena Paytas]

Now it comes up on my news.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ready?

[Moses]

She read about how to win.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she read about it.

[Moses]

Yeah. So where did she find that book?

[Lena Paytas]

Maybe there's a book at Barnes and Noble. Next time you go look. But it's like, you're not gonna win, like, a million dollars because you won it. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, well, they were bragging.

[Lena Paytas]

Bragging.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's all maybe podcast deals, you know, the spin offs.

[Moses]

She wanted the Instagram followers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Maybe they're this season. They're all about that, too. They're like, she's here for the followers. Never know. Well, can you imagine being. You're 68. 67. I keep thinking I'm 38. We're 30 years apart.

[Lena Paytas]

Six.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, 37. 67. Right. So you're gonna be 70 in a few years, which is. I think she was 70. I think he was 72 at the time. So they're probably older now. They're probably more into their 70s. Can you imagine being in your 70s and like, meeting someone and then, like, writing like, a towel about this person? Be like, be worried. It's like you're 74. Like, especially because he's nobody and he's.

[Lena Paytas]

Gonna get think he's engaged to be married to a younger girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's like, let it go.

[Lena Paytas]

But I guess he needs money. I mean, he really didn't. I don't think he had a lot of money before, but I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm just saying that's fine, I guess, but let's not let throw your wife of two months under the bus. Like, oh my God, you're in your 70s. Just chill. Because like, that's your right. Like in your 70s, it's get. You know, you could live another 20 years for sure. But you are in the, the third half of life, right? You have like the first half, you have middle age and then you're on your third leg of life. It's like, is that what you want to be remembered for? Remembered as is being like, be worried, Teresa. Like, that's crazy. That's crazy behavior. Or like dating a girl. Like, you go on the Bachelor, Golden Bachelor at that. And then, right, you have her, you throw her under the bus and then you're like, I'm gonna date this. I don't know how he's trying to.

[Lena Paytas]

Save face because, you know, they said he walked that way from the marriage.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so just do a podcast interview. You don't write a book about it. That's true. All these frocky ass men just writing these books. It's like, like, well, we'll see if.

[Lena Paytas]

It makes New York bestseller list.

[Trisha Paytas]

It won't. Who's going to that signing?

[Lena Paytas]

Okay, but back to Mel Wins. I think they put, you know, that Nicole. Is that her name?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I don't know their names. I like all the women, I don't know their names.

[Lena Paytas]

Nicole, that one that always making out with him in front of the women.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she's from Miami Beach.

[Callie Paytas]

Right.

[Lena Paytas]

She's yoga instructor. I think they have to keep her on till the end because otherwise it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Might be a little boring. I think we, we thought she's a plant. We talked about this, how we think each season there's like a plant that stir up drama. I think she's that because what did she say that was like, God, do we remember last week she said something crazy.

[Moses]

She was saying something about like, she's there really to just get exposure and, you know, Right. Like once she's on screen, she'll find somebody, whether it's him or somebody else.

[Lena Paytas]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She said, I'm not dating Mel, I'm dating America. Like, she's looking for someone like that.

[Moses]

Yeah. And then whenever everyone were cooking, she was in the jacuzzi with her face mask.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

But then she gave him the food, saying, I made this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, this is from me. You're right.

[Moses]

You have to be really rage baiting the drama because you know all the.

[Lena Paytas]

Women are gonna hate on you, you.

[Moses]

Know, and it's all been filmed so you know you're gonna get caught in a lie.

[Lena Paytas]

But I think those women don't know that because they're all like, oh my gosh, we need to tell Mel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Lena Paytas]

Like that one lady told him and she was off that same night.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, yeah. I think they're all here for the right reason. All right, Mel was. Then you're a dummy. Like, what do you mean? Like, that was so. I hate it.

[Moses]

Well, cuz probably he's like, well, that's why I'm here. I don't want any of you women. I'm dating America too.

[Trisha Paytas]

He did a podcast before it even filmed. He's doing a podcast about it. I was like, I don't like him. I'm not for I for Taylor Freaky paw. I'm ready for that Bachelor.

[Lena Paytas]

So glad they didn't pick me. And then when you said, I'm so glad you weren't on it, man. Cuz if you got voted off, I would have been so sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have.

[Lena Paytas]

I'm not. He's not my type at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you did think physically he was.

[Callie Paytas]

Your type at the beginning.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, but you know, I mean, he's been in the football, NFL, right. His body has take some hits and he sometimes he can struggle to get up and down some of those steps.

[Trisha Paytas]

And yeah, that's the moral of that Golden Bachelor is that women age better than men because all the women, they fit amazingly. Hiking, swimming, dancing, they make them do these talent shows. What do these men do?

[Lena Paytas]

And he just sits and watches them. And you know, it's like, what did he do? What has he done physically? Not that he has to be, but he wants somebody like that. You need to be like that then too, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

You're fit for your age.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I'm glad we're on there. Maybe if they want a golden Bachelor, I will nominate Bachelorette. They'll nominate my mom. You can pick.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. But you can tell who he's gonna, you know, not give a rose to every week. You could pick him out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it is. It is weird.

[Lena Paytas]

Nicole will be up to the end I don't think he'll pick her because she's the plant.

[Moses]

She.

[Trisha Paytas]

That.

[Lena Paytas]

And she's just out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does he have to propose? Is he. You think he's gonna propose at the end of this? Do they propose? I don't know if they still do that.

[Lena Paytas]

I don't know.

[Moses]

Did.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess Gary.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, I guess you're supposed to. They televise their wedding, but chalk and that. What's her name?

[Trisha Paytas]

Joanne or.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, they didn't. They didn't purpose, did they, Joan?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I didn't watch. I didn't finish that one. That one was very boring.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But maybe they do Bachelor in Paradise with all the golden. The golden Bachelor in Paris.

[Lena Paytas]

Oh, they're doing something too, like a mansion makeover with the Bachelor. Mint.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I did part of that. Oh, okay. Good for them.

[Lena Paytas]

I don't know what that's all about.

[Trisha Paytas]

See, people just want to go on the show, so get some opportunity, which is like, fine, honestly, just accept it for what it is. Is.

[Lena Paytas]

And I think that. Well, just like any show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

You know, Dancing with the Stars, they want exposure in that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but those are actual. Yeah, right. But those are people who are there for that reason. Right.

[Lena Paytas]

Well, like Hilaria. I mean, she. This is all allegedly guy red, but, you know, she thought she was going to win, so it was such a big disappointment. And, you know, like, everybody's like, why. You know, why are you such a sore loser? And she's blaming. Being bullied by the mean girls. I'm to going like, guys vote too. She's blaming all the women and girls. But it's people, you know, it's how the show is. And she. I think she wanted to be a star like her husband, you know, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wonder if she would have danced with Alec this week on Dedication Week, would he have danced with her?

[Lena Paytas]

Oh, is that. Oh. Oh, for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting.

[Lena Paytas]

I think that's all she really has. Did he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Him crash his car somewhere?

[Lena Paytas]

Yes, he did.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that drama he needs to in.

[Lena Paytas]

The Hamptons he's blaming on this garbage. I don't know, garbage truck or something as big as a whale. And oh, but I looked at the truck, had a cam, a recorder. And it's a one way this way and one way the other way. So it's only two lanes, you know, and they said he was behind. And I. Some allegedly say he was drinking and crash. Because he came upon the truck because it was raining and everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just smash into a tree like that. I saw it.

[Lena Paytas]

So he goes, I Didn't want to hit the truck. He just pulled out in front of me and smashed the thing. But the way that the trucks. What do they call it, camcorder or whatever, was recording it as a different story than what he's telling. And then some people go, oh, you. You guys just have to blame you and your wife. Just blame everybody else. It's never your fault. So interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

Because he never got mad at the truck driver. He's like, yeah, we're okay. My brother's okay. Stephen, he's here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he's in the, in the car with him?

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. But he looks so tired.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Stephen or Alec?

[Lena Paytas]

No, Alec.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he has seven kids at 60s. Is he 70? He must be almost 70. Can you imagine having seven kids in your 60s like you right now, like just have birthing out babies?

[Lena Paytas]

Or even her at 41? 7.

[Trisha Paytas]

41'S pretty young. She started at 29, I guess.

[Lena Paytas]

I know, but 7, you're young. I mean, how can you Kids much. She does dance a little with them much on Tick Tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we don't. Oh, we don't see them, but they might be together. We don't know. She said they don't have nannies. They might be together. She seems to be with. I don't know. I don't know that. But I think. Right.

[Lena Paytas]

I know this all allegedly. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think him being in his 60s, having all these kids, whether you have nannies or not, I mean, it's still. You gotta be with them sometime. It's probably exhausting. Like, you know, I. I can't imagine that.

[Lena Paytas]

Well, even during her being on the show, he had to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they were all there. I think someone said, like, she always brought all seven kids to the show. I'm like, that is a feet. Because getting kids in a car is hard. I guess they're a little older, but like getting all the kids in a.

[Lena Paytas]

Car, I think the youngest though, is too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

So you still have to use bathrooms. You have to feed them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think about that too so much.

[Moses]

You still have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? And yeah, they probably need help, you know, not to like, they're probably six or seven. They're independent maybe a little bit and dressing themselves, but even then, I don't know.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah. And then she grabs that microphone on thing. I'm like, who does that?

[Trisha Paytas]

It must be something in Dancing with the Stars because the. I think it was Lauren learned from fifth harmony. When she got eliminated, she was really upset. So there must be something that you're just so in this bubble and you're so like, dedicated, that's your whole life and then it's just gone. It's just done. Probably like really messes with you probably.

[Lena Paytas]

In a show, you know, for that long.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she had her own show, didn't she? The Baldwin reality show with seven kids.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah. Is that last two seasons? I never saw any of it, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not bad for two seasons. Any documentaries you've seen lately?

[Lena Paytas]

You know, there hasn't been any good, but so I've been going to movies. I saw Akira Knightley movie. Oh, it was Woman in cabin 1102.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, no, I've seen posters for it. I've seen it advertised.

[Lena Paytas]

Well, I didn't know who it was until afterwards. I was like, she looks really familiar. And it's on Netflix.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I was just. I was just on Netflix the other day and I was like, I saw the posters. I was like, oh, they give you free coffee when you go to Netflix. I had an iced Bridgerton Bee coffee when I was there yesterday. For what? Well, I can't say, but I was there yesterday and it was yes, free.

[Lena Paytas]

As Oscar would say.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Lena Paytas]

Spill the tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spill. I always spill the tea, mama.

[Lena Paytas]

That's the tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that's good. Okay, that's Oscar coated. I thought I was talking to Oscar for a minute. I actually like the hoodie too. I just noticing now the hoodie with the backdrop behind you, it's cool because that's where the hoodie's from.

[Lena Paytas]

Well, let me put this on too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love. You look great.

[Lena Paytas]

I wore this in the rain yesterday. Oh my. With a lifesaver.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is good. This looks good on you. This whole little fit it. I gotta take a full body outfit of you, Mom. You are a walking advertisement.

[Lena Paytas]

I know, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. So no billboard. Oh, Captain 10. You like this one?

[Lena Paytas]

Kevin 10?

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not documentary. It's a film. Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

It hasn't been any good documentaries and I don't haven't been watching movies, but I thought, oh, let me watch that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know which one Tana says to be in? Nicole Kidman, her favorite movie. She's like, you'll love it is Baby Girl.

[Lena Paytas]

That's the one that's supposed to be very sexual.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, you will get so like, just like she goes. And I love. I sound like a good horny movie now and then, you know, like Bridgerton is that for me? But it's like, no, this one is crazy. And she always talks so much about it. And I was like, like, I Want to watch it. But we never have like a night alone. So I'm like, okay. It's a weird time to like watch it. Like, when are we gonna watch it? Because if that's the feeling. But she said it was like so good. She's like, I think she's. I think it's another one where she's like, with a younger man. That's the one you said. You told me Keith Urban did not like. Is that what you said? Right.

[Lena Paytas]

They said that she just went too far on that one. And there wasn't another one she did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that baby face one?

[Lena Paytas]

Was Zach up front?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, baby face is like a sexual.

[Lena Paytas]

So there's one with Zach up front.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then the baby face he was not having.

[Lena Paytas]

That's it. Because apparently they haven't been romantic anyway for a couple years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, apparently allegedly he was cheating on her with a young girl.

[Lena Paytas]

Allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I also too, would not want just like Catherine with Austin McBr. Like, I'm not. You're not coming anywhere near this. You're cheater. Right?

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah. So sometimes it's just let go, move on. I know they said that she wanted to save the marriage, but it sounds like there wasn't much left anyway.

[Trisha Paytas]

Another sad man just taking money from her for staying sober. It's like just.

[Lena Paytas]

And they said she was always busy working. Well, you know, that's what she wants.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone's gotta make that money, right? Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

I've never seen Keith Urban perform.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Have you any concert? I don't even know what he would.

[Lena Paytas]

Be like, you know, boring.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see him on American Idol when I was. A long time ago. I don't think it's on anymore.

[Lena Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Not my cup of tea.

[Moses]

Right.

[Lena Paytas]

I used to think it was cute, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Yeah. Back in the day, remember there was that wave of like Kenny Chesney and like those. Those guys are like kind of hot back in the day. But I don't know. You look back now and you're like.

[Lena Paytas]

You thought Kenny Tennessee was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. Before he took off the cowboy hat. Right. Everyone's like, oh, he's hot because he had the puka shells and he was tan.

[Lena Paytas]

Oh. And then he married.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never understood the Renee Zellweger. That was weird.

[Lena Paytas]

Four months or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Short lived. Yeah. It's like, well, I wonder what happened. I always want to know what happens that you divorce in four months.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah, I know. Then it never came out of me. Usually something always comes out and not them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

It's like, that is weird. And it's weird. She's going, well, not weird, but a different hookup with Ant, who's aunt. You don't know him.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know Ants.

[Lena Paytas]

He was me. You want all. But she was married to that Christina on the coast on hgtv. They were married, had a kid.

[Trisha Paytas]

And who's Christine on the coast?

[Lena Paytas]

Oh, they were on hgtv. They ter Musa or something. They had their show for years on there and then she ended up with him and. And I think was someone maybe over in the UK that was a host of some show or something. But it's just weird that Renee Zwager people that know are watching will know.

[Trisha Paytas]

She looks so different. Not bad or anything, but she was on Only Murders. Have you seen Only Murders the new season?

[Lena Paytas]

No, but I heard she's like there.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I was like looking. I'm like, that sounds. She sounded familiar. She didn't look familiar. Sound familiar? And I looked up like Renee Zellweger.

[Callie Paytas]

Yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

She hasn't been around for ages until.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Like, different face. Like, I mean, lost so much weight. Like, everyone is. Everyone is so tiny these days. Which not a bad thing. I mean, everyone looks good. But her face looked so different. I was like, how did you look? How did their faces change like that? Cheryl Burke too, from starts.

[Lena Paytas]

Oh, I love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm like. And she's like, I had no work done. I'm like, what, what, what? And if that's the case, I want to know what's happening because clearly the face is different. Is it just losing weight? Are you using a GLP one that causes your face to change? Like, what is it?

[Lena Paytas]

Well, yeah, I think she was on something like that because she is very thin and they. Well, they say you get that Ozempic face. You get the GLB face.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think it looks bad. I think none of it looks bad. I think Cheryl looks really good. I think, like, who do we just talk about? Oh, I think look good. It's just like a different face completely.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I couldn't even imagine.

[Lena Paytas]

I know a different face. Don't do anything to your face. Or you. Moses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, Moses. No GLP ones over in there. Not yet. We'll see. I don't know. I have been so hungry lately and I was like, man, sometimes I'm like, I don't want to, but man, some days I am so ravenous where I'm like, I could eat like a big bowl of spaghetti. Like yesterday I had raising canes and a big bowl of spaghetti. Then by night I Mean, I was full, but. But I was like, why am I so hungry?

[Moses]

Canes? I'm hungry for lunch and I'm hungry for dinner.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. That's tea you ate with that moment I would hate.

[Lena Paytas]

I can't imagine your brain telling you you're not hungry. I can't even imagine, like, oh, I'm not hungry.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I mean, you know, I get it. Food. People with food struggles. I get it. But I don't know. Can't be me. But some people love it.

[Lena Paytas]

I wonder when you get off of it, if you still don't like food.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's different for different people. Some people are like, oh, yeah. I kept. I maintained how I was and be like, I gained it back. Different folks for different strokes. But, well, here we are. Any final hot topic you have before we go do our.

[Lena Paytas]

No, but I just want to mention because we love all your people that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Follow you on Poshmark.

[Callie Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

I just want to remind you guys, bundle your items together, because I've had so many in the last couple weeks. One item each on. And then you have to pay postage for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bundle them together.

[Lena Paytas]

And then you only paid that postage one time. Time. So save yourself some money. Instead of three separate orders, put them in a bundle.

[Trisha Paytas]

So go save you the money. And our closet name on Poshmark is Trishp88. And you'll know it's us because it's me and my mom in the profile photo, which I love. It's so cute because we're changing. I'm like, should I just put.

[Lena Paytas]

I should just put Trisha.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, the opposite. Like, I love it because my mom truly is, like, in our garage, at her house, at the post office. Like, her entire day. She, like, texted me, well, she had 65 packages yesterday or something.

[Lena Paytas]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the pouring rain, my mom, like, took them to the post office. Like, I tried to seal them and.

[Lena Paytas]

Put them in bags so they didn't get.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're. So we'll get a new shipment in my mom's, like, over here right away, like, opening the boxes. Like, she, like, loves it. Like, if I did not have you, I don't even think I'd continue this. Like, Poshmark, all of it. Because it's just, like, you love it and you're so good at it, and it is, like, tedious. No one else would have the care that you do. My mom is digging through boxes, looking for things, packaging nicely, ordering stickers, ordering this, like, just. It's. It's great because first, so go to our poshmark trish P88 never ending clothes there. I have so many clothes. I love seeing you guys when you come to Trishmas wearing my clothes. My mom will be at some of them and you like to show her like look. And I'm like, I remember that. I remember that. She remembers. And I tell her I'll be like, oh yeah. Remember that boy that had the sad boy. He had the crop but he wanted the long. And I was like, don't worry, I'll talk to my mom. And he's like, oh my gosh. She was so sweet. We sent him a whole goodie bag of stuff. So we remember. We always remember. Thank you guys for that. Go to just. Just calm and get all the latest hoodies. These sweatpants, these are so comfy. I love these. I've been wearing them for a while. I'm glad we finally got them over here safely and they didn't get lost at sea. And the cup, the hat, the bag. Oh yeah.

[Lena Paytas]

I put my notes on the bag. I didn't know what to put on.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. Yes. The whole thing. Moses has a little piece of arts coming on there soon. There's a Just Trish mug. Check it out@just trish.com. we love you guys. Would love to see you at Beetlejuice if you'll be in New York November. November 4th through the 23rd. I'd love to see a Trishmas live come December. We are working hard right now for that. This month alone we've been doing Halloween content, preparing for New York and Trishmas content. So it has been non stop. But we love you and I'm so thankful and blessed to be busy and working and getting to do it all. Living the dream life. I love you guys. I love everyone here in this room. These are made too. These are my wonderful. My sister too. She. She has left but my sister too held me down. We love you guys. We'll see you in the next one. We'll see you at Patreon. Patreon. Com. Just Trish. Bye.