David Dobrik EXPOSED By Assistant + Justice For Mikayla Nogueira?

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Just Trish" Episode - David Dobrik EXPOSED By Assistant + Justice For Mikayla Nogueira?

Release Date: April 8, 2025

Hosts:

• Trisha Paytas: Viral megastar known for her unfiltered commentary on pop culture.
• Moses Hacmon: Co-host with a dynamic presence, often sharing personal anecdotes and engaging in lively discussions.
• Oscar Gracey: Emmy-award-winning entertainment news journalist, providing insightful perspectives on the latest headlines.

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1. Personal Updates and Tour Highlights

The episode kicks off with Trisha and Moses sharing personal updates, setting a warm and relatable tone for listeners.

• Trisha’s Sad News: Trisha opens up about the recent loss of her beloved dog, Joey Graceffa, highlighting the emotional toll it has taken on her.

  Trisha Paytas [03:00]: "Yes, I am okay. My dog passed away a couple days ago and it was very sudden. She was just a baby. She was just two."

• Heirs of Trish Tour: Moses enthusiastically details the ongoing "Heirs of Trish" tour, emphasizing the excitement and special moments from recent stops in cities like Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Charlotte.

  Moses Hacmon [11:05]: "We are doing three weekends in a row. We are not stopping. We're actually after Vegas. We'll be halfway through."

2. Celebrity Gossip and Social Media Drama

The hosts delve into the latest happenings in the celebrity world, offering their candid takes on various personalities and events.

• Justin Bieber's Transformation: The discussion shifts to Justin Bieber’s recent body transformation and his evolving relationship with fans and media. Moses expresses his admiration, while Trisha reflects on her initial skepticism.

  Moses Hacmon [21:19]: "I really love Justin, so I'm really invested."
  Trisha Paytas [21:31]: "I'm supporting from a distance more so I'm just worried for Justin, to be honest."

• Jack Black and Minecraft Movie: Jack Black's involvement in the highly anticipated Minecraft movie garners attention. The hosts speculate on his career trajectory post-release and share humorous thoughts on potential cosplay opportunities.

  Trisha Paytas [38:37]: "I could cosplay as Sonic or Minecraft. I'd love that."
  Moses Hacmon [35:49]: "I did buy an axolotl for myself."

• White Lotus Series Finale: Trisha and Moses discuss the recent White Lotus finale, critiquing its plot developments and character arcs. They express both appreciation for the show's aesthetic and disappointment with certain narrative choices.

  Trisha Paytas [75:08]: "I love the characters. I loved every single person on the season."
  Moses Hacmon [75:15]: "It's like, you know, a Quentin Tarantino vibe."

3. TikTok Trends and Influencer Insights

The conversation transitions to the vibrant world of TikTok, where the hosts analyze recent trends and influencer activities.

• David Dobrik’s Deleted TikTok: A significant portion of the episode centers around a TikTok video by David Dobrik that Trisha recently deleted alongside her assistant. Initially perceived as trolling, the deletion suggests there might be more beneath the surface, sparking intrigue and speculation among the hosts.

  Trisha Paytas [136:59]: "I initially wasn't even gonna make it a hot topic because I was like, oh, it's so obviously like trolling rage bait."
  Moses Hacmon [137:37]: "I feel like this might be like a weirdly hot take from me, but I wouldn't even think anything, like, weird about it."

• Influencer Events and Collaborations: Trisha shares her aspirations to collaborate with popular influencers like Glenn Powell and Jeff Wittek, reflecting on the challenges of securing guest appearances despite efforts and connections.

  Trisha Paytas [28:47]: "I DM'd him as me as I can. I interview you about being a gay ally."
  Moses Hacmon [104:54]: "I did buy an axolotl for myself."

4. Behind-the-Scenes Stories and Anecdotes

The hosts offer humorous and heartfelt behind-the-scenes stories from their personal lives and professional endeavors.

• Ordering Challenges: Moses recounts his struggles with ordering oversized underwear online, adding a comedic twist to the topic while highlighting relatable frustrations.

  Moses Hacmon [66:22]: "It's so annoying. Cuz I was always getting 2x but now my butt is too big for 2x and I need a 3x."
  Trisha Paytas [66:46]: "I'm just so annoyed by... This is all I've been thinking about."

• Surreal Experiences at Events: Trisha describes attending the White Lotus finale party at a Four Seasons hotel, expressing her surprise and disappointment at not being invited despite the hosts’ close connections.

  Moses Hacmon [75:05]: "We got invited by Max and they were. They kept following up too."
  Trisha Paytas [75:15]: "It was so freaking weird that it was there. I feel like they hosted it there for us to happen."

5. Reflections on Influencer Culture and Authenticity

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts engage in a deeper conversation about the nature of influencer culture, authenticity, and the impact of product placements.

• Skincare Line Authenticity: Trisha critiques Michaela’s approach to discussing her personal struggles while simultaneously promoting her skincare products, questioning the sincerity behind such dual-purpose content.

  Trisha Paytas [130:09]: "But also, like, the idea toxic masculinity kills. But then he lived."
  Moses Hacmon [130:37]: "I'm trying to think so, because there's some people come to me in green..."

• Ethics of Sponsorships: The hosts debate the ethics of promoting products during serious discussions, emphasizing the importance of maintaining authenticity and avoiding overt commercialization of personal narratives.

  Trisha Paytas [123:35]: "But he did go on Drag Race... It's tough when I see, like, influencers get hate..."
  Moses Hacmon [132:17]: "But she was also trying to get her revenge on VidCon."

6. Final Thoughts and Call to Action

Wrapping up the episode, Trisha and Moses encourage listeners to engage with their content through social media and attend their upcoming tour events.

• Linktree Promotion: The hosts humorously promote their Linktree links, integrating it seamlessly into their conversation while maintaining their signature playful banter.

  Moses Hacmon [133:33]: "Check it out today. Link tree not sponsored."
  Trisha Paytas [133:51]: "Trishian, in the sense sad boy."

• Upcoming Tour Dates: They reiterate their enthusiasm for the ongoing tour, inviting listeners to join them in cities like Vegas, New York, and Boston.

  Trisha Paytas [147:11]: "And click that link tree."
  Moses Hacmon [147:16]: "We love you guys. We'll see you in the next one. Bye."

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Notable Quotes

• Trisha on Personal Struggles:

  "I never knew how to approach someone who's dealing with something traumatic." [03:00]

• Moses on Tour Excitement:

  "It's gonna be a night to remember." [11:57]

• Trisha on Authenticity vs. Sponsorship:

  "I think it was an opportunity to just be fully like." [130:09]

• Moses on TikTok Dynamics:

  "It's my favorite, hands down. It's just so fun to post." [126:35]

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Conclusion

This episode of "Just Trish" masterfully blends personal anecdotes with sharp commentary on the latest in celebrity news and influencer culture. Trisha Paytas and her co-hosts Moses Hacmon and Oscar Gracey deliver an engaging narrative that is both entertaining and thought-provoking, ensuring that listeners are kept hooked from start to finish. Whether discussing heartfelt personal moments or dissecting the complexities of modern social media dynamics, the trio maintains a dynamic and authentic presence that resonates with a wide audience.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't realize David Dobrik's lawyer with like the Jeff thing is the one Justin Baldoni's lawyer. Did you know that?

[Moses Hacmon]

I didn't know the same. Exact person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exact lawyer.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's busy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see the TikTok David Dobrik deleted with his assistant?

[Oscar]

Oh, he deleted that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Okay, this is how come you didn't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Tell me about a David Dobrik news. We were together all week. How come we never like to see David Dobrik like you tell me everything. Oh, I have a Minecraft dissertation plan. Okay, great. Where's the name of don't break.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. I feel like I'm on tour again. Hi guys. Welcome to Just Trish podcast. It's gonna be a good Wednesday. I. You know how I know? We came back on a Sunday. I slept, I feel great. It's like our normal hour. Normal time. Me and Oscar are matching. Not planned.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, serendipitously. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

How do we know is this the color of the season?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe so. Yeah, a little lavender.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think it's butter yellow. Actually, the pantone color of the season is butter yellow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your mom was wearing that today.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was she? She's on that pantone palette. What is this? This is lavender. Am I supposed to be pink? But it does look little purple.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think a black. A lavender.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, okay, there's pink here. Just so I don't lose my pink streak of wearing pink on the podcast. But it's a. It's a good day. We're like here at a normal hour. We're not here at like 4:30.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love it. I feel good. You feel good? I don't know. How do you feel?

[Oscar]

It's so hard.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cuz like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I knew coming in any. Any time I'm going through something. The way that you navigate bringing it up is so funny. It actually does make me giggle every.

[Moses Hacmon]

Time I Know, cuz I'm like, do we? But you're always in a good mood because you're always in, like, you're always giggly. You're always excited to be here.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just so funny because I knew coming.

[Moses Hacmon]

I never know how to handle these things.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

It makes me okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

Trying to be there for you. This is why I'm a bad friend. I don't know how to be there for anyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I love it. It makes it more. I don't know, I feel like it does more for me mentally, spiritually, the way that you don't know how to do it. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like very charming and endearing.

[Oscar]

Like, it's unexpected, expected. So you have to approach it a whole different other way.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I do like it more than like, I hope you're okay. Like, there is something just very charming and awkward because I'm also the same way. I never know how to, like, approach someone who's dealing with something traumatic. Yes, I am okay. I am okay. My dog passed away a couple days ago and it was very sudden. She was just a baby. She was just two. I adopted her. And that was my last stint with Joey Graceffa. It was like when I started the podcast here. So she's very special to me, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know, I know, I know. I don't want to cry either. That's like, so I can't even imagine.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I know. Yeah. But she got me through a lot, a lot of tough stuff this year, so. Oh, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my gosh. I hope she's okay wherever she is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she is.

[Oscar]

We got you a gift.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, we do? Yeah. We don't know what else to do.

[Oscar]

Because I was in Cleveland and we saw.

[Moses Hacmon]

We saw this. There's also a gift from a fan.

[Oscar]

Too, because there's a bunch of stuff in there.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's how I found out about the meet and greet or at the meet and greet, someone's like Oscar's dog. And I was like, what happened?

[Oscar]

So there's a few gifts, so I'll show, so. That.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is so sweet. This one made this.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's from a fan. Yeah, a fan made that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Shan's Crochet Creations. That is so sweet. Thank you so much. Oh, these little Axel.

[Moses Hacmon]

These are Moses.

[Oscar]

We were the. We were the aquarium.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cute.

[Oscar]

They have like a little magnet.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so sweet. Thank you so much. Oh, a little card. Thank you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, a little card in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so sweet. Oh, my God. There is a lot of little Trinkets in here. Oh, my God. And Trisha. Paytas pain.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Eras Dorpin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait, someone made this?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Oh, that's so cute. She made like 10 of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

We probably have more stuff, too. It's like, so hard to go through everything. There's probably more. And then this one specifically, I remember she said this is for Oscar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's. I love this haul. This is so sweet.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Diva. A pink diva hat. I didn't even know everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

So cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, this is going to be a new staple piece. I will be wearing this a lot from Guadalupe Trejo.

[Moses Hacmon]

Thank you, guys. She gave me this Dr. Mimi one, too, but we'll get that in a minute. She was great. She was so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. That is so sweet. Thank you so much, everybody.

[Moses Hacmon]

And she put a little card for your. Yeah. She was so sweet. She was in. God. We're at Charlotte. That's where she was in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you so much.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Well, I'm happy you're here. It made me happy when you're just like, okay, because I always just check in in the morning. I hope you're okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I was excited. I was excited to come and giggle and. Yeah, it's a good distraction, for sure. But honestly, I feel like you've inspired me a lot, too, because, like, it is very easy to get, you know, stuck in a dark place because a lot of stuff has gone wrong this year. Let's be honest. Like, it's not been a great year, but anytime I want to make, like, a men's, like a mental list of all the stuff that's going wrong, I try to, like, do the opposite and make a list of everything going right.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. You have gone through a lot. I feel like more than people know. And that's why I'm always like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how to, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not catch a break. But you know what?

[Moses Hacmon]

But you will.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I will.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's going to be a strong end.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm due for something. You know, all the bad stuff is getting out the way in the beginning of the year, so I am due for something sweet. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do you think that is?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know, but I'm really hoping something good. I'm really hoping something good.

[Moses Hacmon]

Collab with a candy company or something. Yeah, that could be cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

A tarte brand trip. I'll take. I could. I could go for something sweet or something tart.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, please go on a tarp. Brand trip. I would love to hear about that, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, Me too. It'd just be me sitting awkward, like, in a corner, but yeah.

[Oscar]

And then you guys can launch his career. Is that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Oscar]

Everyone. Everyone in the. In our videos. You should go to Patreon to see it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Add right after that, the newlyweds. But everyone was asking about his skin routine.

[Trisha Paytas]

His skin? He does have a serious skincare routine. He's very disciplined when it comes to skin care. Pretty much primarily. Everything else, not really. But skincare, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

His skin is beautiful.

[Trisha Paytas]

He doesn't miss a day of a skincare routine.

[Moses Hacmon]

You would be the it boys at the tart trip. People would be so excited because you're both, like, so cute and everyone wants to befriend the cute gay couple. You know what I mean? That would be so, so cute, actually. Okay. I mean, we're wearing tarte colors, right? Isn't this kind of their colors?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it?

[Moses Hacmon]

I love that. Yeah, they go to patreon.com. we did the couple challenge. What do we post this week?

[Trisha Paytas]

I always forget we reacted to Trish talk. Sorry, Moses without you. But.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, we should finish it with him.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to finish it with you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because he is so good. Moses is the star of these for real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Although the one we reacted to, the first one was starring your mom, the angry Karen this morning.

[Moses Hacmon]

Did you tell her? Were you like, good job?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. I should have. Yeah. I was a little starstruck by it. She is a great actress.

[Moses Hacmon]

I always try to hear, like, the conversations people are having because I'm like, this with Moses. Anyone? I'm like, oh, my God. Okay. I hope everything goes okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think if I'm so awkward, I just want to make sure no one else feels awkward in this world. But it sounded like a.

[Oscar]

She's awkward when she's not in the conversation.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. That is me. I was hiding. I was like, let me listen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, it's so funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, she seemed. Oh, she liked the. She said she liked the Patreon video. Yeah, we love that. Patreon.com/Jess, Trish, we're posting. What are we gonna do this week?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good question. We do gotta think of something.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like we should do, like, trendy, like Minecraft, Happy Meals and the Kardashian crumble collection that just came. Yeah, I want to try today. I don't have time. But they. The Kardashians came with all their crumble favorites, which I'm like, are they really eating a yellow chocolate layer cake? Kris Jenner's favorite.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

I really, really doubt that. But they are trying to be a little bit more relatable these days, I guess. A little bit. I mean they ate McDonald's in the last episode, so I'm like, okay. Relatable?

[Moses Hacmon]

Really? I haven't seen that one yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it actually, I literally, I swear to God, we are the only two people watching this program. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Anyone talking about it.

[Oscar]

Every time there's something boycott. They're the ones too. You remember Starbucks completely boycott. Nobody drinks them.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think McDonald's is uncanceled now, but Tesla trucks. Yeah, they're still.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She's going hard for. For Tesla, that Kimberly. It's so hard. They are my problematic faves because I do enjoy them. Kendall. I turned around, I had beat. It was one sided beef. I had one bad experience with Kendall Jenner in high school at Nordstrom and granted, she really didn't even do much. She just kind of was a little bit of a diva in the shoe department. That was it. It really wasn't that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Were you working or just shopping?

[Trisha Paytas]

I was just walking by, but I think she thought I was like trying to get. I wasn't even trying to get a photo with her or anything. I just saw her and I was trying to pass through the women's section. Women's shoe section to get through to the men's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she thought it was like a stand. But granted, she was in high school. I was in high school.

[Moses Hacmon]

Forgive her. No, you still hang on to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

The pregnant paws. Okay, I will forget. It really wasn't. It really was nothing. It was nothing at all. But I held. It was a one sided grudge that I held for a long time.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's okay to hang on to those, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But she was. She's won me over. She's quite charming on the program. I don't know they.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was she eating McDonald's?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Kendall Jenner was not. But she was funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who was not Chloe.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was Chloe and Kim and Kris.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were just sponsored probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably. I don't put anything.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were like inside eating it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, they were on a road trip and they went through a drive through.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. I think it was sponsored. If they showed McDonald's and what did they eat?

[Trisha Paytas]

McFlurry and some chicken nuggets and fries.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's relatable.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was getting relatable and they went on a camping trip. But it ended up being glamping.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I want to See this episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a good episode.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was tickled. I was pretty tickled. What else was in this episode? Chloe threw a party, a birthday party for Tristan's younger brother Amari, who has, like, epilepsy. And that was very sweet because, I don't know, Chloe's really. Chloe's so sweet. I mean, again, problematic faves, because, yes, there's a lot. A whole bunch of stuff that I'm like. I get reminded. I'm like, yeah, and kind of like brush. Just no accountability for it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, Right. Never having to, like, address it. But who amongst us has not been exactly stuff in the past? I can't hold it. I'm like, okay, get it. But they look. They seem good. They seem like they're in a good place.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

We gotta catch up with it. Well, before I forget, I'm on tour again this weekend. The Heirs of Trish tour. It continues. We are doing three weekends in a row. We are not stopping. We're actually after Vegas. We'll be halfway through. We're gonna be in Vegas this week at the Cosmo Hotel. Very excited. We're gonna be in Vegas. There's tickets left for that. There's a special song there. There's also special merch in Vegas only. There's gonna be a Vegas only shirt. Then we go to New York city on the 15th. We'll be at Radio City Music Hall. There'll be special merch, special song. I'm wrapping a little Jay Z there. It's gonna be. It's gonna be a night to remember. And there's still taste for that. But there we are, sold out at Boston at Wing Theater. And we're actually filming that. We're doing pro shots of that. So look for it near you. I actually don't know where it's going. I just know that was the theater that allowed us to film. So we're doing pro shot filming. Kind of like the way we did my Broadway show. So there'll be, like, 20 cameras.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Gonna be amazing. So make sure you come. The Airs of Trish tour, we just do not stop. We were in Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Charlotte this weekend, and it was a vibe. It was our. It was a great turnout.

[Trisha Paytas]

We.

[Moses Hacmon]

We loved it. Cleveland was my hometown show, and people showed up for that. We took the kids. Not to the show, but we took the kids on a flight. Shout out, United. They were pretty. They were. Well, they've been problematic in the past. They don't let people pee. Remember that the woman's like, I need to pee. And like, you have to sit down.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't remember that at all.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, not us. Besides, think that was a story that happened. And yeah, they're usually like, people have complaints, but they were great to us. They were really nice.

[Oscar]

Yeah, Very good.

[Moses Hacmon]

One, one of the five tens had come to my show in Houston and she's coming to New York, so. Whoa. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Quite a coincidence.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is a coincidence. And she just started. It was her first flight ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's just going on all the air as a church to herself. She's really nice. I got her information. Cause I was like, dang, that's cool. And yeah, it was a good trip.

[Oscar]

It's time for the kids to be on an airplane.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, they did a great job. They slept, which is great. Malibu slept during landing. I don't know how she like hits the ground and she's all like, when.

[Oscar]

Toddlers are sleeping, they're sleeping. Like, there's no.

[Moses Hacmon]

We went to all the Cleveland hot spots. Rock and Roll hall of Fame, the Aquarium, Children's Museum.

[Oscar]

They have great. I mean, the children Museum was great. The aquarium was great.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just from there, we had a good time. We had a family reunion. We went to the. My aunt's house. She had like 40 people over cooked Thanksgiving dinner. It was a good time. A bunch of little kids playing together. I love my family. I need to see family more often. I really don't see.

[Oscar]

We spent. We spent every day, morning till night with her family. Like different cousins and different aunts and uncles and everyone would show up and Malibu was like in heaven. Oh, she was in heaven.

[Moses Hacmon]

So many kids. Because they have like what, like 12 kids?

[Oscar]

And she immediately just bonds. She knows it's family. It's like they're running around and playing, doing the villains makeup and singing and dancing.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's fun. But you know, you feel like a way my. It was great. I love it. But every recurring dream where I'm stuck in the Midwest where I like, like, like it happens a lot where I feel like I'm back in the Midwest and it's like, oh my God, I never left. Like, I'm the age I am now. And like sometimes I'm still going to school or something like that. And it's like. But then I wake up like, oh my God, no, I'm in California and I have a family. It's like, I don't know. I felt a little bit like that. Not with my family, but just like the other parts of Cleveland. You're Just like, oh, my God, I'm stuck here.

[Oscar]

Because I have the same thing from the Mid east, you know, Is it something about the middle? Like, people that are living in the middle, you know, they go west or they go east, but there's something about being stuck in the middle.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, wait, that's crazy. I'm from the Midwest, you're from the Middle East.

[Oscar]

Because I'm the same way. Like, if I go, like, it doesn't matter how much I enjoy. I'm just in this fear of being stuck there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Weird. So we came. We came west together. Maybe we don't like to be in the middle. We don't like to be stuck. We don't like to be landlocked.

[Oscar]

No, going west is like, you know, people that go all the way west are like the seekers, the pioneers. Like, they want. They go as far as they can.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Lewis and Clark.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think they went south.

[Oscar]

Like, you can't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right. The Louisiana Purchase. Didn't they do Louisiana?

[Oscar]

They didn't get very west as far as you can until you hit the water. And that's it. There's nowhere to go. Like, this is the edge of the country.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. Go to China, I guess. Go around. Well, we're here. We're the seekers. What about the people in the east? I feel like Thailand, like, they're thriving.

[Oscar]

No, I'm saying that. Or you go east, right? Oh, you go. People go to New York.

[Moses Hacmon]

You said the seekers come west. Who goes east?

[Oscar]

This is more like they want to. I don't know, Wall street money, like in Thailand. No, I'm talking about the United States. Like the east of the United States. It means you get to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or Broadway.

[Oscar]

Where do people want to go? They go to New York or California. Where else is there? Like a mess, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

Right. Where are you going? You stayed. You stayed west.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess I was middle of the San Fernando Valley.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, so you're also. Mid Valley is very middle. The valley is the Midwest of California.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially Midwest of la.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is it actually Midwest?

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone always talks down about the valley. You know, it's like if you're from the valley, you're like on the outskirts or whatever because it's so far from la. But technically you're in la.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it's very beautiful. It's inexpensive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, now it's expensive, but back in.

[Moses Hacmon]

The day, we'll get. Come even more out towards us. We're even more in the boonies. I don't know if you can say that. We used to call it the boonies, but I Don't know if you can. What you can say anymore, but we're out in the boonies past the Kardashians. We're far out. Yeah. You're kind of in the midst of it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

The swinging. Well, we're back. We made it back to the West Coast. Thank goodness.

[Oscar]

Cleveland was so Cleveland show. Your dad came up that she made a whole video. I mean, everyone were, like, crying backstage. Everyone were crying. The video she made and the song and everything. That was, like, amazing. And her whole family was there. Like, what, 40 people came to the show.

[Moses Hacmon]

They brought the high school. They brought everyone.

[Oscar]

Everyone were there, and then there's a few.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then you came out. Wait, but you didn't talk about you.

[Oscar]

I'm still wearing the jersey. Since then, I haven't took it at all.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know the next show. Everyone was expecting you to come out. And they're like, where's Moses? I was like, I mean, you have to be with the kids.

[Oscar]

I know it's hard.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was really sad even leaving them for, like. Well, my mom also came with us, even though my mom. I was just, like, sad. It's sad when they're so close. But. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Then another thing there is from gifts from the shows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Someone painted this and brought it to the show. This is the Dr. Mimi doll. I guess these are from. He's like a pharmacist in Mexico. And they give them to, like, Adele and Sabrina Carpenter. They dress him up as, like, little pop stars.

[Trisha Paytas]

So funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Guadalupe, too. Guadalupe really came through with the gifts. And I believe she made this rainbow Birkin. We should start these videos.

[Oscar]

I added the Birkin onto it. It was for a different gift.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I think she.

[Moses Hacmon]

She. I think she gave it to me with this.

[Oscar]

The Birkin was from. There's another one hanging over there.

[Moses Hacmon]

She gave me a Birkin for this.

[Oscar]

Dollar, so I think that's the one over there. Because this Birkin is from a previous weekend. You came back.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think there's another one like this somewhere. I swear she gave. She. She crystallized the same exact one.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because everyone's crystallizing these Birkins. And they do look like they're. They look like they're handmade, but they're all the same. Same kind of. And I'm like, is someone making these Birkins off Amazon? But maybe they're really making these. It's just, like, crazy. This is, like, the third one I got like this. So I know she gave me a bedazzled one. Cause she's like, it's for the Dr. Mimi doll. And I was like, oh, okay. So I guess her mom stuffed the boobs. It was really. She put a lot of effort into it. She gave him a little wig.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's like a Drag Race challenge or something. Turn this doll into a queen.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, and she did. She crushed it. These were from Ian charms.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes. Those are a little gift.

[Moses Hacmon]

My necklace fell off.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. Oh, I'm wearing the bracelet right now. I wear them all the time. Justin Bieber wears them a lot too. And now that you're in your Belieber era. I am, yeah. I thought it was very timely. It was very timely.

[Moses Hacmon]

They gave this picture of Moses. I wish you could do a close up of this. I love it. It's great. And they gave. They gave Malibu this really cute. It's a really cute thing. I didn't know. And if Justin Bieber likes it, I like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's the one I wear. It has like the popcorn. I should have worn it today, but it was like the popcorn and stuff. And like the eight ball. But they're really cute.

[Oscar]

Everyone says you should listen to his new album. So I don't know if you guys want to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Justin Bieber, what year. What year is the album?

[Oscar]

Isn't it some new music or.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think he's put out music in 10 years. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Okay, maybe, you know, when he does, we'll do a Patreon.

[Moses Hacmon]

But wait, we'll do a Patreon listening. Justin dropped that album. I would know if he had a new album. I'm a Bieber fan now and he hasn't done anything. He's like, how's that new album purpose?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was kind of whiplash. Or your Bieber era kind of. It came out of nowhere, seemingly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, no, because we've been talking about Hailey Bieber.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's true. That's true.

[Moses Hacmon]

So then I was like, okay. She kept popping on my TikToks and I started researching, like, Justin Bieber. Then Benny Blanco's been in the news. So I was seeing all the songs he wrote for Justin Bieber and the ties between him and Selena, and I was like, ooh, I gotta look up this. Thank you so much to the sponsor of today's episode, ro. Have you been curious about Ozempic or Wegovy, but not sure if your insurance covers it? That's where Ro comes in. Let's be real. No one likes calling their insurance provider to see if their medications is covered, especially not for GLP ones like Ozempic or Wegovy Rose. Insurance Checker lets you know if you're covered for GLP1s for free. Ro can help you understand if GLP1s like Ozempic are right for you and your goals. But that's just the beginning. If you're eligible for GLP1s and want to see if you're covered, all you have to do is submit your insurance card and RO will take care of the rest. No paperwork, no negotiating and no waiting on hold. Ro's Free Insurance Checker will send you a comprehensive report of your coverage details so you can make a decision that's right for your goals and your budget. Plus, RO members have support throughout the process. You'll have access to your provider on demand. For any questions. Join over the 115,000 members who have trusted RO to check their coverage for free. Go to Ro Co Trish for your free insurance check. That's Ro Co Trish to see if insurance covers GLP1s for free. Go to Ro Co Safety for black box warning and full safety information about GLP1 medications. Thank you Ro for sponsoring. We love you. Check it out today. And I was like, maybe Justin's the problem between Selena, Selena and Haley. And then I was like, no, I think the world was the problem to Justin and he had some bad hands dealt with him because no one was protecting him. So now I really love Justin, so I'm really invested. He posts a lot on the Instagram and I love anyone who posts a lot like those feed posts. I love it. He was Facetiming his baby with just like a little bit of the hedgehog. I just love his little posts. I think he's great. I have asked him to be on the podcast a few times. Did you see? Yeah, I was maybe. You never know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Never say never. As Justin Bieber says, I will never say never. I love him. I sing about every show now. It's actually, it's actually a vibe. People love Justin Bieber.

[Trisha Paytas]

What songs are you singing?

[Moses Hacmon]

And I didn't want to write a song. I didn't know the whole word. I actually start from the beginning where it's like for all the times that you rained on my parade, I kind of feel like I'm Ed Sheeran singing it on stage because I saw him performing and I was like, oh, I channel that. But everyone sings, sings it. They love that song and they start clapping. Cuz if you like the way you look that and everyone claps then baby. And it's like, it's a vibe. I know all the words now, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a good song. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's only when I know all the words, too. I'm trying to. I don't know. That's. I think that's one of his best songs. I don't know. I really like it. I really like Justin Bieber. I'm gunning to, like, open for him if he tours again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, like, if Rebecca Black has Katy Perry. I was like, okay, maybe I could go with Justin Bieber.

[Trisha Paytas]

You could probably do a cosplay too. It's similar to Metro Bolton in a way, I guess.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe. Yeah. Maybe it was a little too old for the Justin Bieber era. And sometimes even listening to his music as a kid, I'm like, I think maybe I'm too old to be listening to this because I think it's more like, for kids. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

He aged up, though. He had, like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

His last. I think couple albums were a little bit more mature.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is it the. Too late now to say sorry? Is that the one or is that older?

[Trisha Paytas]

That was on Per. Wait, not Purpose.

[Moses Hacmon]

Purpose. I know there's a Purpose tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know it was the one. It was the album about Selena. Oh, I remember. Oh, my God. I was at NBC. I met him when he was promoting that.

[Moses Hacmon]

How old was he?

[Trisha Paytas]

God, how old? This must have been like, 20, I guess. I literally. I can just Google it. I don't know why I'm sitting here trying to, like. He came to Access Hollywood to do an interview and he was very nice. I will give it to Give it to him for that. 20. 15. 2015 is 20.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. 10 years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was very polite. He, like, came and he, like, introduced himself to everyone on the, like, the camera guys. Anyone who was just, like, in the hallway. So I was just in the hallway. He's like, I'm Justin.

[Moses Hacmon]

He had a swoop or.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, it was the hair. Kind of like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Blonde or brown?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was light dark. Blonde. Light brown, maybe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Not the bleach. Not the bleach. Blonde.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think so. I don't think so. Not yet, at least. But yeah, he was very polite. I admittedly, because I'm sure it'll be my digital footprint somewhere. I was a Justin Bieber hater for a long time. Now I'm just concerned for him, to be honest, but I was a hater for quite a long time.

[Moses Hacmon]

Why, if he was so nice to you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because he was just inserting himself with, like, in drama with Like Taylor Swift and stuff. And if I'm anything, I am loyal. So yeah, might I suggest you don't f with my sis.

[Moses Hacmon]

So yeah, Scooter Braun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, exactly. So.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, he's out. He's out now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he left Scooter. So he seems okay. Although he did give me you vibes because he liked and unliked a photo of Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco kissing. I think Complex posted it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is that real? I saw that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could see it everywhere. Admittedly it could very much be like a photoshop thing but he is a little like I. I don't even think messy is the right word on social media. He's just kind of a little. He doesn't like think things through all the way. It's kind of like you just. You like things really nilly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's not like I unlike things too.

[Moses Hacmon]

As soon as someone says oh she liked this, I'm like let me unlike that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. It's like absent minded almost, you know? And I. He gives me that same vibe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, same. Maybe Is he a Taurus? Is are we the same? I should know his birthday. Why don't I know it?

[Oscar]

Maybe it's the same hacker that got your account.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, well, because he did post something. Did he post like a Gollum with the ring?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he posted an Instagram story like girls when they get engaged and everyone thought it was like a Selena Gomez shade or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cuz it is kind of random.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was random. Selena just released an album with Benny and there's some songs that fans think are about Justin. So maybe that was his response. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Just Bread.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's what? Just Bread.

[Oscar]

Just Bread.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just Bread.

[Oscar]

There's a song they made that's called Just Bread and people think it's about Justin Bieber. Jb.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh. Oh my God.

[Oscar]

Moses is so you either a believer or you're not.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love either you're a believer or you're not.

[Moses Hacmon]

Selena and Betty. That I didn't know. Right.

[Oscar]

But it's side quest from.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, they think the JB is about that. I love that you know that. That's so random.

[Oscar]

Cuz who make a song about just bread.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh my God. Maybe watch Just Trish. And they were like let's put a little that tie in there too. That's okay. Did you listen to it? Is it good? What's it about?

[Oscar]

Most of their songs are good. I. I don't know the lyrics. You know I listen to the music first, not the lyrics.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Oscar]

I want she remembered the lyrics. I just think so.

[Moses Hacmon]

The tune, you say you listen to it on TikTok or just. What?

[Oscar]

Yeah, or maybe it was on Twitter.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I'll listen to it, I guess. And is it about Justin Bieber? Have people confirmed.

[Trisha Paytas]

The one I saw that people think is about Justin is, oh, how does it feel to be forgotten? Which is all about, oh, forgetting, like, one of a big love or whatever, and now you're moved on with someone who, like, appreciates you.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm dedicating that to everyone I've ever dated in my life because it's so true. You really do forget. Well, but they did write a song about him, so they didn't forget that much.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think that's why my favorite song from Just Me, I didn't want to write a song because I didn't want anyone thinking I still care, because I don't. That's what. That's real.

[Trisha Paytas]

You really do love us.

[Moses Hacmon]

I do. And I was like, wait, that's so real, though, because you don't. You don't care. But by writing a song, you kind of care. You're kind of like, hey, how's it feel to be forgotten? Even though we're writing the song about you? Didn't forget about me that much. Well, how old is Justin? In his 30s. I think it's normal to, you know, do shady, shady posts about your ex.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's 31.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, so that's still young. At 31, I was still posting shady stuff about people I've dated, so I think it's okay. Yeah, I think you're just a hater on Justin Bieber.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I really, I'm. I've come out of that anti believer era. I'm not a believer. I wouldn't say. I wouldn't label myself like that. No. Me and your belieber endeavors.

[Moses Hacmon]

I am baby believer. I'm getting there. I'm not fully there because I don't want the believers come for me, but I'm getting there. I really. Yeah, I like him.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm supporting from a distance more so I'm just worried for Justin, to be honest. I just. I wish the best. I wish the best for him. He's a dad, you know, he seems at first like the Instagram lies really concerned me, but he's been. He seems better now, I think. I don't know. I really don't know. I just. I'm hoping the best for everyone.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think everyone just gets a little manic sometimes. You know what I mean? Yeah, I. I just don't record him as much, but sometimes I get a little manic. Sometimes for sure. I feel a little bit like, ah, you know. A little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But. Well, Justin, if you want to come on the podcast, I put out an invite, a few invites. Had a lot of likes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even you and Drake though. Because even like Drake said.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because he and Drake in the same sentence.

[Oscar]

But actually I was wondering where they're even going with us.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You and Drake have a lot in common because. No, I think Justin posted DM me if you want to collab on music. And then drake, I guess DM'd him and then he commented dm'd you but never heard back.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love that. So very Trishko me with Corey King. I finally heard back when I was like, hey girl, that's so real though. I love that Maybe Justin, he hasn't seen it yet, but there's still hope.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sending love to both of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I shot my shot with Jeff Wittek, actually. You inspired me.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's probably not hard to do considering thumbs here.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just like, I have gay questions from. I don't even. I want to catfish him and say it's for a Glad or something. Be like, hey, can you do an interview about being a gay ally for.

[Moses Hacmon]

Glad and interview them as. Did you send it as you or you sent it me?

[Trisha Paytas]

I DM'd him as me as I can. I interview you about being a gay ally. And then now I'll switch. I'm going to pivot my pitch and say it's for Glad even though why.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don'T you just say it's for you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Say no to Glad, otherwise you're homophobic.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I think he. No, he likes you. Last time he was here, he's like, where Oscar? I'm like, Oscar works like Oscar has a job. Like he always. He always asks about you. Wait, so that's like. I'm sure he's just down to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

It, but I'll say it's for Glad nonetheless. I feel like. That's funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's okay. Love it. But random.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can't say no to Glad, so. Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love it. And you can be like on camera. Like, sit down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I just have gay questions because you inspired me from your interview. I had so many follow ups that I'm like, yeah, it was a wild interview. And Jeff, I really don't.

[Moses Hacmon]

He loves talking about gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gay rights. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. You would be better equipped to that because sometimes I don't know how to. Because a lot of it's like gay man directly. So I'm always just like, okay, maybe I should be a gay man answering this back, you know. So I think, I think he'd be down. Did he reply?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not yet. Not yet. But I'm hoping this. Now that he knows this for glad I feel like that might, you know, get the reply.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think you could just do it as, you know, I think he's happy to have you on go over there to his Hollywood apartment. That would be crazy actually to see you over there.

[Trisha Paytas]

It would be crazy. It would. It. I would almost do it for the plot. Just because it is so Even watching like you on Jeff fm, I had to pause about halfway through and like take a break.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, it's a lie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. So I couldn't imagine being in that. I don't think I've been in such a heterosexual environment, dare I say ever. Maybe even. I don't think my college was that straight because it's, it was in, you know, there were some gays. I think there was homophobe. There were not homophobic. There was homosexuals around.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's some homophobics in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think I've ever been such a straight environment.

[Moses Hacmon]

He said he has gays all around him and there wasn't one there. I was like, where are they? He's like my housekeeper. I'm like, where is he? He's like, not here. I was like, okay, where.

[Trisha Paytas]

The lesbians that he talks about a lot.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I haven't seen one of those either.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very curious about it. But he, you know what I love about Jeff is he does just give me like a gram. Like he's like a grandpa, you know, who hasn't like caught up to where the world is at now. And he has a gay grandson and wants to be supportive, you know, but doesn't really know the right things to say, but right. It's not ill intentioned means. Well, yes. Yeah. But I think that's like the funniest part.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, yeah, he got stinted a little too with his eye injury. I think. I feel like that kind of held him in 2020.

[Trisha Paytas]

And speaking of, you know, I didn't realize David Dobrik's lawyer with like the Jeff thing is the one. Justin Baldoni's lawyer. Did you know that?

[Moses Hacmon]

The same exact person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exact lawyer.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's busy. He's busy just trying to get people.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why they keep trying to put off the, the, the Jeff money. Like listen, they got my hands full with.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, he can't he didn't really. Couldn't really talk about it and also didn't really want to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's still the same. The last I heard. Yeah, I think the last I saw David again filed to get it dismissed, but I don't. I don't think it got dismissed as far as I know. But it was like last week they tried again.

[Moses Hacmon]

Baldoni. They've been quiet, too. We never hear much about them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the court made them be a little bit more quiet, but they're still going back and forth.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think they were exhausting. I like that you shoot your shot with him. I'm shooting my shot with Jack Black right now. I. I've been in a Jack Black era. I know. I love Jack Black. I always have.

[Trisha Paytas]

You try to cosplay as him last year, right?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we did a ton. When I was pregnant with Malibu, I did a ton of School of Rock ones. And people have always compared me to Jack Black. Not the funniness, but people like in school will try to be mean and tell me I look like Jack Black. But honestly, now I take it as a compliment. He was on SNL this past weekend and all the top comments on SNL's TikTok was Jack Black doing the Black Parade. And everyone's like, this looks like it did give me Trisha cosplaying Gerard because he didn't have, like, Gerard's haircut. Especially in Black Parade. It's like a platinum blonde short hair. He had like these, like, little pigtails and, like, long hair. And even before I saw the Black Parade reference, they put out a promo the week before of him doing School of Rock and the emo thing. And I'm like, like me cosplaying Gerard way. And then the next day it came out Black Parade, and everyone was just like, is this a parody of Trisha? Like, there's so many comments. I'll screenshot them. Jimmy, insert it. There's so many comments being like, oh, my God, this is a parody of Trisha. This parody of Trisha, which I love, by the way. And then someone's like, do you guys not know My Chemical Romance? It's like, no, they only know Trisha Paytas being Black Parade. It's a very random reference, you have to admit. It's very random. Black parade came out 2006. So the fact that they're doing this now when I'm on tour doing Black Parade every night, I don't know if it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the writers. The writers are fans. You should Reach out.

[Moses Hacmon]

I did. Jimmy F. If you wrote that, I know it's about me. Just kidding. Not kidding, though. Sometimes I don't think it is, because here, I got this in the mail from Rockefeller Plaza. Yeah. They keep sending me stuff. It's crazy. I was like, yeah.

[Oscar]

They said this is, like, the third package.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is, like the third gift they send. And I went to go open it because Malibu wanted to see upstairs. They put, like, onesies, like, Saturday night, one of these.

[Trisha Paytas]

So cute.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. So they're, like, keeping up with me. I was like, okay, snl. So they gave us one. Yeah, well, maybe for the new baby, too. And then they gave me, like, a 50th. And this one's big. Hold on, let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoa.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, this is like, SNL. 50th snow globe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I feel like you have to name your baby after, like, SNL now, because they're really.

[Oscar]

Well, we did. Saturday Night Live was one of the names we suggested.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Baby Bowen.

[Moses Hacmon]

Bowen. That is actually a really good one. Yeah. Maybe unbox that. And then they sent another sweatshirt. I don't know. They keep sending me something I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, maybe this is from Malibu. This looks kind of tiny. This is like a little Imagine that's for you. I was like, wow.

[Oscar]

And by the way, whose wedding invitation was a snow globe?

[Moses Hacmon]

Whoa. They really are coming for our nachos. That's fine. They can parody me all they want. I loved it. It was everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoa.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is crazy. They keep sending me all these cool things. Wow. I wonder if they send it to everyone who's ever been on snl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never seen anyone do that Little pr.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I love it. And they always package it nicely in the little gift.

[Oscar]

You can start the shelf, you know, a little shrine for us.

[Moses Hacmon]

I never felt more a part of something. I feel like I'm on the show every week.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're on the team? Yeah, in the writers room next week.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think it's so cool.

[Oscar]

Oh. So it says limited edition. This is 552 out of a thousand.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoa.

[Oscar]

Only 1,000 of these?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Pretty cool. I'm always happy to be a part of it. And speaking of Jack Black, I am also obsessed with Minecraft.

[Trisha Paytas]

I knew your Minecraft era was coming.

[Moses Hacmon]

Ready to play. I knew I knew how to play it. It's literally so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is the one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Britney Spears one, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly. Same. I was never part of the Minecraft, like, wave. I mean, it's been, like, forever, but damn, the Minecraft movie. I kind of had FOMO because I didn't see it, but everyone seemed like they had a good time on via Tick tock.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's all I know. Moses said he had a dissertation planned for Minecraft.

[Oscar]

I mean that was just my hot topic for today.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was his hot topic. He's like, I have it planned. Your thesis baby. We're telling you had it planned out. I want to hear it.

[Oscar]

Well, first of all, what. The first thing that came about was all the tiktoks of the premiere of the movie and people were just premiere.

[Moses Hacmon]

I didn't see any of that.

[Oscar]

No, I mean like opening night, you know, in all the theaters and people were just going crazy, like throwing everything there. Like everything. Every frame that happened in the movie was a reference to something that, that people were very passionate about. So they were either like screaming or shouting or giving lectures before the show, throwing popcorn. Like people had to be like the movie. They have to pause it, get people out, play it again, pause it. And now they start, you know, they announced before the movie starts for people not to do all those things.

[Moses Hacmon]

And oh, it was part of the lore, like Rocky Horror, you know, you're supposed to shout and like drink water, guns and stuff.

[Oscar]

It was like that. But not something that was planned to do. Like they didn't want that to happen. But anyway, so there was a real fear of the movie being taken out of the theaters because of, because if you see the theater after the movie, it's chaos, it's mayhem. Like the place is destroyed. Puke and everything and food and everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're so excited, throwing up. They can't take puke.

[Oscar]

I mean there was one funny thing where they said people were wondering what's going to happen with the iPad kids when they grow up.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they're like, you're right, this is it.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is the Minecraft era.

[Oscar]

And then. But anyway, I mean the movie broke record. So opening weekend 157 million. And global opening 301 million.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh damn, that is pretty good.

[Oscar]

They're like at the top. And the movie only cost 150 million, so they're. It looks like it's gonna get to a billion dollar in revenue.

[Moses Hacmon]

So who gets all that money? Who gets the extra money? You know, just the studio. You don't think Jack Black and Jason Moat is out there hustling wrestling?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sure they have a back end. Jason Momoa is a producer on it as well, so I'm sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

And that's Jack Black.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know Jack Black. I know Jason Momoa well. He has a. Jesse Momoa, has a deal with Warner Brothers, Kind of like Margot Robbie with Barbie. So. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because Jack Black also has a lot of, like, IPS right now because he has Minecraft, Super Mario.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jumanji and Kung Fu Panda.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's in all those movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he's the star.

[Oscar]

That's why. That's why they love him. I mean, they. All those kids grew up with him in those movies.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God. Do you think he's richer than the Kardashians?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess because he doesn't have products. Right.

[Oscar]

When you have a business, it's a different story. Like, they have a billion dollar business.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, those are huge movies. How does he get in all those?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he's just good, like, because it's a lot of Kung Fu Panda and Super Mario voice acting. And then he has also has good, like, comedic physicality for, like, a Minecraft and for Jumanji, so.

[Oscar]

But it might be bigger than a single Kardashian. That's the clan, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Got it.

[Oscar]

Got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

Like, there's a couple of pillars there that are billionaires, but the other ones are not. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, probably more than. Courtney.

[Oscar]

Courtney.

[Moses Hacmon]

We're in Lemmy colors today. We need to go try. Let's try Lemming when we try our trendy products on Wednesday when we do the Minecraft. The. We tried Lemmy. Let me know if I can take it while I'm pregnant. And then. Yeah, the crumble. We'll put that on there. Yeah. Jack Black, I guess, is the Minecraft thing also. You know what? There's not a lot of. Not to make this about size again, but there's not a lot of chubby people out there. So maybe he's that quota for, like, the chubby guy role, which is what I'm trying to be for the female version, you know, so if they need that chubby now that Lizzo's skinny. Because Lizzo and him were a couple in what, that one you were watching the Mandalorian. Yeah. Which is kind of weird. Did they just put them together? Because they're like, oh, they're both bigger actors. Which is fine. Put us in White Lotus Season 4. Me and Jack Black will be the chubby ones that come to the resort and like, oh, look at them be like, what? We're chubby. We're rich now. We can eat food. So I always think that too. I was like, maybe because he's like, the only actor. I mean, he is funny. I'm not trying to take away that. But just as a fatty, I like to think maybe that's why he gets some of the roles too, because everyone's getting skinny and, you know, Jack Black's just holding it down for, honestly, a team.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, he was on. What was the Ellen show, where he surprised the Ellen.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Ellen show is crazy. The show that's been off the air for, like, like five years. The Kelly Clarkson show. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

My memory is. You know what I'm talking about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Why did it look like Ellen? It looks so much like Ellen. One of the little clip I saw.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, the set looks very Eleanor, and.

[Moses Hacmon]

He, like, came out from the back like the person was sitting there. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, this. The set is very Ellen esque, but yeah, Kelly Clarkson surprised Tanner from Love on the Spectrum. Right. With Jack Black. And I was crying. I was like, oh, my God, it was so cute.

[Moses Hacmon]

So cute. He's like, you're so muscular. I just. I love that Jack Black does. I mean, I know he's on a PR tour right now, probably why he did it, but I still love him and I would love him to come on the podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you seen that one paparazzi video of him? Like, he was, like, on the beach and he was, like, doing kung fu moves because he was trying to get the paparazzi away. But then he's like, oh, I'm a paparazzi with tmz. And then he was like, he froze and then he ran away.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or was he being real?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he was being silly. He was trying to, like. Like, I don't know, like Hayes the photographer, I guess, because he did. I think he thought it was just a fan or something, but he's like, no, I'm like, I'm with tmz and.

[Moses Hacmon]

I need to see that.

[Trisha Paytas]

He froze and then he bolted.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was he by himself?

[Trisha Paytas]

He was, like, by himself at the beach.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like that was set up. Why are you by yourself on the beach? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe taking a little walk or something. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you gonna see the Minecraft movie?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah. When can we see it? God, we need to see it. When can we see it? Maybe tonight. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I. As much as I wanted to be a part of the event, because I love an event film, I love being a part of something. The demo is so teenage boy, and it.

[Oscar]

It was so 14 to 24.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Boy.

[Oscar]

14 to 24. Yeah. 99 boys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's my biggest fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's how exactly. So as much as I like the idea of being a part of a cinematic event, we don't want to get.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hazed by a bunch of 14 year old boys.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also, I have no idea anything about Minecraft. So it kind of be a. Oh my God. Appropriating the straight boy culture, I guess.

[Oscar]

But I mean, it's more video game culture.

[Moses Hacmon]

But no, I think it's. Now I know the demographic. I hate that demographic. Oh my God, really? I thought it was like cutesy. I thought it was like your little animal crossing.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a little more like. I think a little more bro. But there are girls that play Valkyrie was supposed to be in the Minecraft movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

What happened?

[Trisha Paytas]

They cut her. She said, oh, she filmed. But she on Twitch or her podcast or something. She. We talked about it last year, but she, she said that she saw Jason Momoa be kind. Be like rude to someone on set. So she thinks that she got cut because of that?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, if he is the producer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don't know if I'd be saying that. You know, the show I did, I'm just gonna be crazy the rest of my life. Like, this is great. SNL can't do any wrong. Like, no matter if you were on something, you're loyal to it. I mean, I guess if he was like doing something crazy. I don't know. Did she say what he was doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

If I think she. He was just like short tempered with like someone of the crew or something. Nothing. That was like. Yeah, it was like a Nikki Blonsky thing. I would have remembered that, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, I think it was just, you know. Yeah, a little bit of attitude. But, you know, everyone has bad days.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that was me yesterday at the airport. I was just, I was so tired, exhausted and like when the kids didn't have their nap, they were just awake the whole time. And so like when people would come up, they'd be, you know, they're excited, of course. And so. But they would be so loud and the babies would like cry when they wake up because they would just be asleep. And then someone go like, oh my God, let's have a picture in like the airport. And then they would wake up and I was like, no, because I was like, oh my God, they're gonna be so cranky. And they were. Malibu was like having. She was, she was having a little moment during the Shake Shack day and someone was trying to get me like for a picture. I was like, my daughter's Screaming. And she doesn't get this burger, she's gonna keep screaming. And it was just like, I was having one of those days. It was like, fine. The plane ride was fine. But those were one of those things. So if you met me at the Cleveland airport, and I was just tired. I was tired. I did get up for a lot of pictures, but also, I had, like, two babies, and we were by ourselves, so I was just, like, scared to, like, leave them.

[Oscar]

But it's like, also, she gets up for one picture. Seriously, that person went and got the whole. What team was it?

[Moses Hacmon]

It was like a lacrosse team of, like.

[Oscar]

Seriously, 30 girls came back.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Hearing that, that one person got a picture. Oh, my God. Like, there's no way.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, my kids are sleeping while they're trying. And then it was just. It was a whole thing. But that's why I was tired yesterday, so.

[Oscar]

But you were.

[Moses Hacmon]

Anyways, on that note. Yeah. Valkyrie, if you don't report me being mean. I was stressed. Maybe he was stressed. I don't know.

[Oscar]

You know, sometimes there's one cameo that everyone talked about that we, you know, we wouldn't know about it, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, can you spoil it? Is it a spoiler?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's all. The whole movie's on TikTok.

[Oscar]

This is not a spoiler. I didn't see the movie, and I know about it. Anyway, either way, you wouldn't even know the cameo happened.

[Moses Hacmon]

Jennifer Coolidge.

[Oscar]

No, she's in the movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait. Yeah, no, she's in the movie.

[Oscar]

So there's. There's. There's a famous Minecraft player that was called.

[Trisha Paytas]

Big Enough.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Oscar]

His name was Technoblade, and he's. He sadly passed away from cancer. So anyway, he was one of, like, very famous player.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And he was, like, the nicest and, like, a really great community player and all that. So his. His avatar was like a Minecraft pig with a crown on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's cute.

[Oscar]

Oh, so. So in the movie, there's suddenly there's a pig, a Minecraft pig with a crown on it, kind of walking by. And then Jack Black, somebody says, oh, is that a king? And Jack Black says, that's a legend. And he walks by, and they said, like, all the kids are crying when they see it. Like, everyone knows him. And everyone and his dad saw the movie and. And talked about it. So anyway, that. So there's a lot of things in the movie that's really. Like, these people have the community history. Like, it's a whole culture.

[Moses Hacmon]

Moses told me this Morning. He's like, you know, I think Jack Black and Jason Momoa are gonna be really big after this. I'm like, you were being so serious. I was like, I think they're already big. I think that's why they're in the Minecraft movie.

[Oscar]

I don't know how to explain it. Like, there's. There's. Sometimes you upgrade. Like, you go to the next level of. Because have we heard of Jason Momoa lately?

[Moses Hacmon]

Babe, he's pretty huge.

[Oscar]

No, but lately they've been kind of quiet. Both him and Jack Black. And Jack Black had a little bit of, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see what you mean. It's like the Margot Robbie level up after Barbie.

[Oscar]

There's a moment where. There's a moment where, like, is it a king? No, it's a legend now. They're becoming legends for those kids.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is pretty funny, though, because the movie is so, like, horribly reviewed. All the reviews came out and they were like, this is the worst movie ever. And then the fact that it, like, is so. And it was supposed to make 60 million was the original projection. And then making almost 160. Crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

What did Snow White make?

[Oscar]

I don't think it's even made half of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Let me see how much it's at now.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don't think in comparison. Like, I'm trying to compare it to.

[Oscar]

Something less than half of that. And.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, Minecraft.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

So this is the best music, not video game movie opening.

[Moses Hacmon]

What other video game movies are there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, Super Mario and Sonic.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, who would want to see those besides Jimmy? Shout out Jimmy for Sonic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jimmy going.

[Moses Hacmon]

He was so excited. Remember, he was here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sonic.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's like, can't wait to go. He, like, took pictures. Insert your picture, Jimmy, next to your Sonic Cardboard cutout. It was so funny.

[Oscar]

I wonder if you ever cosplay Sonic him.

[Moses Hacmon]

Jimmy. I'm going to cosplay Minecraft. Who could. I'll be the pig with the crown. Is it a character or is it his thing?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's his thing. Right? I think they.

[Oscar]

So it became a character after that and now. And they have, like, statues of that pig in the Minecraft. I mean, it became like, they really honor him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you can be the axolotl because they're pink.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's axolotls in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Can I tell you, I did buy an axolotl for myself. It hasn't come in yet. My mom's gonna go pick it up. That's why I wanted my mom to go to the post office this morning. Because it had arrived. I got it off Poshmark because it was so hard to find. It was the emo Axolotl that came out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so jealous. It was the April Fool's Build a Bear. I thought it was fake, but I.

[Moses Hacmon]

Got one off Poshmark, so we'll see what's coming. And it had the certificate and it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was in the plastic and it sold out really fast. Like, I saw a tweet about this emo Axolotl. It's like a Build a Bear thing. It's gray. It has the little swoop. It is very.

[Moses Hacmon]

So cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trishian, in the sense sad boy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes, I know. Everyone's coming for the email. I saw Johnny Gilbert tweeting about it and I was like, oh, what is this? So then I looked into it and I'm like, I need to buy one of these ASAP. And it was like $300 on Poshmark.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it was like a limited edition thing. I saw it and I'm like, oh, I thought it was just an April Fool's, like, prank. I didn't know it was an actual thing. And then by the. Jimmy sent it to me and I was like, oh, I wish it was real. He was like, it is real. And I was like, wait, what? Yeah. And then it was already sold out. Sold out so fast.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I hope I get it by Wednesday. I think it was delivered and I was so excited about it. And I didn't realize it was the same Axolotl until Mose got those Axolotl. I was like, oh, it's Oscar's axle things and people. I guess people know the lore Axolotl. Which I didn't know. I didn't know people knew.

[Oscar]

So Oscar Lotto.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I will take it.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's a good one. Oscar Lotto.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they got really popular because they were in Minecraft. Honestly, Minecraft's impact.

[Moses Hacmon]

And there's a pink one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they're in nature. They're pink. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

We should do a Minecraft day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly. Yeah. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

How fast can we get it around? Maybe not by Wednesday. Maybe next Monday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe we need some. We need one of the gamer people to come and do it. I don't know anything about Minecraft. Literally.

[Moses Hacmon]

I asked my sister to research it. She's pretty good at learning things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cali probably knows about Minecraft. She seems like that kind of girl to get on it, know about it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, she can, like, learn things quickly. If I'm like, can you learn this? She'll, like, figure it out. So Maybe you'll ask her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't even seen, like, anyone play my. Like, I don't watch. Like, I never watched the Joy gra. Minecraft video.

[Moses Hacmon]

He has a whole channel that I enjoy. He love. Isn't that crazy? He's not in the movie. Like, kind of crazy, right? Because it's like, look, I know I make a lot of things my brand. So I was like, trisha, you can't have everything be your brand. But, like, literally, that's his brand. Like, he had a whole channel for, like, 15 years about Minecraft, and he had the big pixelated sword or axe or whatever. Like, I just. I always associate him with that, so that would suck. It's like Dove Cameron. It's like, God, when that's like, your whole thing and you don't get to be in, like, Wicked. Yeah. Which I love. Dove Cameron. People are like, this looks like you. She was on Jennifer Hudson's show and she's, like, going down the aisles. Like, in what world does this look like? Love that. I mean, she's gorge. But also, like me after Ozempic. But it was. But yeah, I just kind of. That's like your whole, like. I don't know what my equivalent would be. I don't have an equivalent.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was thinking that too. Like, what movie? Like, the next gay movie is the Sims. We can't really be in that.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's a game movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Game movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah, game. I was like, you could be in it.

[Oscar]

This is a mukbang movie. Or, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know what yet. Because I do love everything so much. I can't just be like, I should be in that. But, like, something that you're just, like, so obsessed with. Like, Like Joseph maybe, like, they're doing a remake of Joseph. I'm like, I could be an extra there. Like, I'm the number one Joseph fan. I feel like I talk about it. I'm obsessed with it. Like, Wicked, everyone loves and talks about. So, okay, whatever. But Joseph is, like, my thing. And so, like, they're redoing it. Jon Em Chu. And I'm just like, if I don't get, like, a little cameo or I can't be an extra in it, I'll, like, just cry. Cause even. What's her name, Gabby DeMartino was Ariana's double for. For good. The trailer. Did you know that? Yeah. What? Yeah, she just said the thing. Like, I can finally talk about it now that the trailer's out. She was the back she was Ariana's back shot where she's like looking at the Emerald City or something like that. What? Yeah, she. Thank you Universal for letting me be a part of this. It was the best opportunity.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is. Why not you, Ariana?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Wow. Me and Jack must stand in. I'll be there. I mean that would have been everything. But as I'm saying, she's such a fan. So I was like, okay, that makes sense. So I'm gonna make that.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I really don't know. What, Even for me, like, I guess. No. I couldn't even get in the freaking Taylor Swift Aerostar movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, you weren't.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, and I was there when they were shooting and cosplaying.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, you said you gave your all.

[Trisha Paytas]

I gave a performance of a lifetime as the thrilled fan receiving a friendship bracelet.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is crazy because they do know you and you know their person, their PR person and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't pitch myself though. I didn't say, hey, tree, I'm in cosplay here if you can get me in the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really? You didn't?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess we gotta pitch ourselves. Yeah, we're putting ourselves out there more these days. I would love. I would love. Yeah. Was there any YouTubers in Minecraft? Valkyrie obviously wasn't, but anyone else, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don'T know, I didn't hear about anyone else. I would have thought like a dream or like a Tommy in it because they like our Minecraft boys, but problematic though. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know them, but are they problematic?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think dream is. I don't think Tommy is as far as I know. But I don't really keep up with any of the Minecraft people like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm gonna be in it. I'm gonna be in that crowd. I gotta like, maybe Target has some Minecraft stuff. I'm sure they do get in that era for sure. I need to watch the movie. When can we go? We never have time. We have like no time. Tomorrow I'm filming six podcasts, doing four not love lines and the guest one for when I'm gone and Wednesday we film. It's like there's just no. No time.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you can go when it dies down a little bit. I'm sure it'll be in theaters for quite some time.

[Moses Hacmon]

I do want to see that and so I still want to see Snow White. So those are the two that we're like, Snow White.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's going to be out of theater soon, so I don't think you're going to get a chance for it. Yeah. It's losing a lot of its theaters. It is getting so bad at the box office that now Disney paused the Tangled live action.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know everyone pissed about this. People are mad. All the people that were, like, auditioning. Really? Yeah. There were so many people that I was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw everyone celebrating. I wasn't. I saw the Office.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh. I think I saw the people, like, auditioning, like, they were posting their audition tapes. I think Gabby auditioned for. I think that's what she was saying. She auditioned for Tangled and they're like, not for this, but have you. Like. What about you kind of look like Ariana Grande. Do you want to be the double for, like. Like. Yes. I think that's how she got it. I don't know how these people are all getting big auditions like this. Like, I've never once auditioned for something so bad. I was like, damn, the Tangled movie is wild. I guess maybe. Maybe a good idea to take a little pause.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because these live actions haven't been working out that much. At least the princess ones. Right. Because even, like, Little Mermaid didn't make, like, a billion, so it wasn't as big as, like, maybe it should have been. Because, like, Beauty and the Beast was really successful. It made a billion. But. But everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were very. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard. It is hard to remake something like Rachel. Like I said, just make some things people love, like, passionate about.

[Trisha Paytas]

They would have had to make it, like, exact one for one, and they would have had to cast a little white blonde girl. They would have. They couldn't have taken. I know there was like. Like Avantika from Mean Girls. Like, people were fan casting her, but everyone was so mad at, like, any kind of, like, race, like, swap or anything.

[Moses Hacmon]

You just can't please anyone because then if you do, like, a little blonde girl, like a Sabrina Carpenter, then people are, you know, know, why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. People are gonna be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Upset.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think maybe it is for the best that it is paused.

[Moses Hacmon]

Take a little breather.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lilo and Stitch, I think, will still do really well.

[Moses Hacmon]

And that looks pretty true to the. Like, someone did, like, a screen by screen, shot by shot. Did you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was it for ET that was so good. Oh, my God. I was like, wow, this is so good because it was so, like, the original. How did you figure that out?

[Trisha Paytas]

I just. They released a clip. Disney released a clip from the Lilo and Stitch live action when Lilo and Stitch go to work with Nani. And then I just remembered that scene in the cartoon so then I went to go find the scene, then, like, cut it. So it kind of matched.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it was so good. It was exact. I was like, wow, they really did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do a little editing in there. It was pretty close. It was pretty close. But, yeah, the. But then people, again, are so nitpicky. They're like, this scene is supposed to take place at night and now in the live action. And the guy who plays David was hotter in the cartoon than he is in real life.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm like, oh, my God, it's a cartoon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Everyone needs to chill out a little.

[Moses Hacmon]

But no one can be as hot as the cartoons, like Princess Jasmine or like a Hercules. If you know who's supposed to play Hercules. They're probably pausing that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh? They must. Yeah. Remember, wasn't Austin Butler supposed to, like, fan cast as Hercules?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I saw Paul Mescal, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. I saw Rachel Zegler said Kit Connor from Heartstopper slash Romeo.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I'm too little biased because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I can see it, though.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Is he muscular? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's, like, pretty buff now. He, like, really bulked up a lot.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, I could see that. Who was the one we saw? Paul Mescal. He's. He's playing something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Beatles. Crickets.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, we went to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, and Michael George is, like, the biggest Beatles fan. And so we were talking about the Beatles movie. It's like Barry Keoghan.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who else?

[Trisha Paytas]

Paul Mescal, Joseph Quinn, and Harris Dickinson, I believe. I think he's from Baby Girl.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was the love interest to Nicole Kidman. I think it was him. Let me just make sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, damn. So they got some all stars for this one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's funny because a lot of people are like, you should cast unknowns for this, but I don't think any of them are like that. Besides.

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, even Barry's kind of just known for the. Sabrina Carpenter. I don't think any of them are like that. Well known to the general public, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I don't know any of them. Like, you know them, but not really.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. I know Paul.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Other than that, Joseph Quinn is in a lot of things now, but. And they're releasing all four, like, at the same time. It's supposed to be like a bingeable movie experience. Eight hours of the Beatles. There's four separate Beatles movies, one for each Beatles.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, no, I'm on top of that idea. Nobody needs to see a whole George Harrison. Sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not the Avengers. Like, we don't need to see individual. Then we see them unite. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'll sit through eight hours of the Beatles before I sit through an Avengers movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you're supposed to be in Avengers.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, right. Doomsday. I'm on that one. Once I'm on that for sure. Clock me in that, Jack Black.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't think of anything I want to see less than eight hours of the Beatles. I'm so sorry.

[Moses Hacmon]

It always is crazy. And then I saw Mikey Madison was being casted for Yoko Ono.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was Pooh Crave.

[Moses Hacmon]

But because I was like, that's the opposite of diverse, Cat. They're like, let's put. Yeah, that was like, maybe not that direction. Okay. That was crazy. I was like, wow. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of people did believe that, though. I saw a lot of, like, film, like, connoisseurs run with that. I was like, you got to check the poo and pop Crave.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, they need to really ban those on X because I do get confused, and I don't know the difference. So I just take it as a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shut up, blue crib, though. They are listeners of the podcast.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, well, Pooh Crave needs to be shut down because I get confused. Just like Oscar Crave. He was at the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know he's on it. Boots on the ground.

[Moses Hacmon]

I finally reached out to Oscar because I was just like. Not finally, but I was just like, damn, you're really coming to all this show. So I was like, if you want to come to a show, like, let me know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, media.

[Moses Hacmon]

He really is traveling. Yeah, Media pass period, because he's front row to each one. I was like, you're officially in the Heirs of Trish VIP tour. There's a whole new group of people who come to multiple shows now. This tour, my old schools are my Brian and Danielle and Katherine. But they're. They're older. They're trying to save her houses these days. You know, they're. Whatever. So now there's, like, this new young group of people who come to a lot of shows. Shout out Bri, who's been to. I think she's been to six. She's coming to six more. Yeah, she was there both in Cleveland and Cincinnati. She was at both Toronto shows.

[Oscar]

I remember her from the music video.

[Moses Hacmon]

Music video. She got a tattoo of sad boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And then we have Ash. Ricky. His dad's in. In a popular. I think it's like a Tejano band. I don't know. Ricky. Something he comes to a lot of shows, so there's a whole new level of VIPs. And Oscar crave is there. He is. He is there. I don't even know where he's based out of, because he's always in the most random cities.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think he's from Tennessee.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, so maybe that's why he was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And the Lord, too. It's funny because he's the one that films Hormona Lisa at RuPaul's book signing, like. Like shooting her shot to get on Drag Race. Isn't that crazy? The lore. So he's the one everywhere. And that's the one that, like, went viral of hormonal Lisa, like, asking to be on the show.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

And even Drag Race used his video and showing Hormone Lisa's backstory.

[Moses Hacmon]

Do they credit him?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They created after Crave, I think his real name.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, because he doesn't have a real account, does he?

[Trisha Paytas]

When he posted it, it was his own account, but because it was pre.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I call him Oscar, but I need to start calling him Nick, because every time I introduce him as Oscar, people think you're there. They're like, oscar Crave. I mean, they're still gonna sign me. They love you. Love O Crave. But I should say Nick. But I think his accounts are always Oscar Crave.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I was like, I think he has his personal, too. But he is very active on the Oscar Crave.

[Moses Hacmon]

Shout out, Nick. And he's always wearing cute. He had a wicked shirt. We were singing Wicked together, front row. And it's a vibe. We have a good time there. I like seeing the same people. It's cool when people come back. That means the show is good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're like, we couldn't get enough. Especially Bri. Two nights in a row, she went from Cleveland to Cincinnati. It's like a six, five hour drive. I was like, yeah, we really like the show. Which is the best compliment ever. That's us with Donny Osmond. I go see him all the time. Or you know what? That was me with Jason Momoa. I did, like, maybe six meet and greets in six months with him when he was on the tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. He did recognize you, obviously, because.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, you see. I mean, if you see someone six times in a row, you're gonna be like, all right.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're pretty memorable, too, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Thank you. I try to think so. Yeah. You never know if they do remember you or not. But I think by, like, the sixth one, he's probably like, all right. Especially because I came with my mom each time. She's like, okay, this is my mom. Okay? Solo. You know what I mean? So he probably was like, all right, but what are we talking about? How do we get there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Beatles, Pooh crave.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, we don't need to go back to the Beatles, I suppose, but good luck to that movie. Barry Yoga. It's so crazy when you break up. Like, when you stop dating, like, an attractive girl. Like, you're, like, not hot anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Everyone was posting photos of. Of Barry next to, like, the other Beatles from Cinemacon. And everyone was on Twitter was clowning on the way Barry looks now. I was like, you guys were the same ones saying he was hot when he was dating Sabrina.

[Oscar]

I assume he's playing Ringo Starr because.

[Moses Hacmon]

He'S not attractive or what?

[Oscar]

No, I'm just thinking, why would you assume, though?

[Moses Hacmon]

What was the assumption based off of.

[Oscar]

That is their faces will look similar.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, he is playing Ringo Stars.

[Oscar]

Yes, he is, because I can't imagine paying.

[Moses Hacmon]

Anyway, Paul mescal's playing Paul McCartney, which kind of makes sense. And I don't know who the other ones are. John Lennon, I have no idea. But I know they were legends, so Shout out. I don't think Gen Z cares about the Beatles.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, we care about, like, you know, One Direction. We don't really. Oh, me grouping myself. And Millennials.

[Moses Hacmon]

Millennials, too, because I know what they care about. Now that I do the show, I'm like, I know. I know. They don't care about Britney Spears, which is sad because I always ask for requests. No one ever wants Britney. They always. They always want Hamilton. Every show. Hamilton. I'm like, wait, that's so wild. Like, that's so. To me, that's like Millennial. But they always want Hamilton. Sabrina Carpenter. Gotta learn some of those songs. They always want Sabrina. And who's another one they always ask for? And I never know. Sometimes Olivia Rodrigo, sometimes Tate McRae. I'm trying to get more in the Gen Z because I always ask for suggestions. And then Justin Bieber now, because they know I love Justin Bieber, so they asked for that. Always Chapel. I mean, my. My. My fan base is just a chapel. Rome fan base. I think. I think they think it's my song. Actually. Every. Every show, it's shallow. Pink Pony Club. And they chanted it. I think it was. Was it Cleveland? I think. Or maybe it was Cincinnati. I can't remember. Some. A crowd chanted Pink Pony Club. Like, oh, my gosh.

[Oscar]

I think that's why on Call Her Daddy. That's the skit they did.

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Oscar]

He's like, oh, you think she's going to play Pink Pony Club?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think Hot to Go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love Moses associated. Sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's the same kind of thing. I hope they play Had To Go and they're like, this is a Trisha Paytas concert.

[Oscar]

So. But on. On Call Her Daddy, they said it had to go Pink Pony Club.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think so. I don't know. You could be right.

[Oscar]

So their. Their Tik Tok was one to one the Tik Toks everyone makes from your show.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, but I think they were making it because it's already okay. I don't know. Now I'm confused.

[Trisha Paytas]

The origin of the the meme was for like a tour because it was like the surprise song of the Aero Store, then became like a Chapel thing. Chapel did it with Olivia Rodrigo. It was like the hot to go.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but you're saying they said Pink Pony Club.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And in your. All the tiktoks I get is people say, I hope she's played Pony Club. It's like this is a Trisha Paytas concert. And then they show a video of you singing Pink Pony Club.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're ripping off the meme that I ripped off. It's like Gerard. It's like Jack Black Hospital. I love it. I like it.

[Oscar]

But for me that I never knew what happened before that they're copying you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Period. I love that. I have to watch it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Shout out Chapel Rome. I need to find an LA guest for my show. Maybe I'll reach out to Jack Black. It's either Jack Black or Chapel Rome, but I'm scared to reach out to either. By the way, none of them have even contacted me. I'm just saying in my head I'm like, who can I get? Role model. I reached out to him. Oh, he recently. Do you love him?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I've listened to him because he. He was the one dating Emma Chamberlain. Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what Tana told me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I was like, okay, Tucker is his real name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shout out Tucker. Tucker.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, he signed his set list as Trisha Paytas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Over the weekend. This was so random. How does Trish Graves see everything? Like I don't see it anywhere else. And Trish Crave saw it and I was like, oh, is this real? So I sent a DM to him. Still left on thread, but I'm trying. Guys, I don't have any guests right now, but still come to the LA show. The Greek Me for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

My pitch that I had in my head was you and Terry Jo singing I love you, Jesus.

[Moses Hacmon]

That might be more realistic for me. All the Terry Joe's booked in busy, so I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true everywhere. But the crowd would go wild. Wild for that. That is kind of the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe that'd be. We go. I do have to find someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Tana's on tour. I was like, okay, I'm gonna find as. I don't have to find anyone. It's not like I'm advertising special guests, but it'll be fun. That's another Hot Topic. Oh, back to the Kim Kardashian one. This is not Hot Topic. This is another thing that I love that we just use a show for our own pleas because I have to make a plea. Skims is not delivering to California right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

The terrorists? No, I don't know. Oh, I think so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. How about those tariffs? That's crazy. Huh?

[Oscar]

What do you mean? So you go to the website.

[Moses Hacmon]

What.

[Oscar]

Where do they deliver to?

[Moses Hacmon]

Jimmy, insert this for real, because I need these underwears. I have a cart of about 30 pairs of underwear because for my shows, I wear the nude and the black. Sometimes I wear a cheekster, sometimes I wear a hipster. Sometimes I wear a full brief. Sometimes I wear a thong. So I was trying to order these in, like, 3x because I'm pregnant. My butt is huge. Huge. So I was trying to order these in. 3x are super soft. There's no panty line. I've been trying to place this order for, like, a week. I started on April Fools, so I thought it was April Fool's jokes. I was like, what the hell? So I posted on my Instagram and then I keep trying to place this order, and it says it won't be delivered to California. And I was like, what the hell? Is there a skimmed outage?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. It's letting me do it. Maybe. It depends on what you're ordering.

[Oscar]

I think you need to restart.

[Moses Hacmon]

I ordered the same underwear. It's like a 400 cart. I ordered the same. Same.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should have just gone to the. The drive through.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was only here for three days while we were gone. Oh, maybe I'll try it from your phone. I'm trying to get these new briefs. Okay, Well, I don't know. It's my.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hopefully it's not a meundy situation where they're just blocking you from purchasing the. The undies.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, stop talking about us. That would be crazy. It's 400 worth of underwear in my cart right now and I really want to buy it. Can you put a. Can you put a pair of nude underwear, 3x in there just to see if it works?

[Trisha Paytas]

Works. Let me see.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean you don't have to do the whole. I don't know, I guess you don't have to do this. We can do it later.

[Oscar]

Looking at this search history, huh? I can't wait to see Darian looking at his search history.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know he's like, why do you have 3x nude briefs in there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's see. Oh, the cheeky.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, the cheeky is good. Hipster, full, brief, whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Adds a bag.

[Oscar]

We're doing live journalism.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. I'm gonna be so sad actually if it's just my phone. That's so weird.

[Oscar]

It must be just because like you're traveling. I don't know, something about the location.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe different location or something. So like I don't know. But I tried it this morning and it went.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's letting me. I mean it lets me put California.

[Moses Hacmon]

And you can go to like PayPal, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me go all the way to make sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

Put 10 in there.

[Oscar]

Maybe it was too big of an order.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but I mean I placed of big orders. I really need this underwear. It's so annoying. Cuz I was always getting 2x but now my butt is too big for 2x and I need a 3x.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's see. Okay, it's loading. It lets me. It says shipping method, standard express.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, let me. Can I see mine really quick? Let me just see if it works now. So sorry. I'm so sorry. That's so annoying. Cuz it never lets me do that. Sorry, babe. Thank you. I'm just so annoyed by. This is all I've been thinking about. I've been trying it all week. Okay, sorry. Sorry everyone. Sorry, Jimmy. Sorry everybody. Let me just try this quickly. So, Okay, I have 24 items in my bag. Okay. So yeah, I have. I have some bralettes. I have some bralettes. A 4X. I got a boy short. Lace, brief, brief, cheeky brief. Boy short, boy short. Okay. Okay, let's do checkout. It's $402. It's. It says his order may not meet our shipping policies.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder why.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh my God. Do you think I'm banned?

[Trisha Paytas]

You might.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't understand.

[Oscar]

I think you just need to restart the whole order. And there might. Sometimes there's you know like one item that has an issue and messes up your whole Order. So just get the underwear. Just get the underwear in one order.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is just underwear.

[Oscar]

Oh, I thought you said there's more. Like, more items in there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, there's a bralette in there. I'll try it on yours later. That's so annoying. Okay, well, whatever. That was my other hot topic. All right. And the other thing. Oh, my God, you have to, like, let it go. But I can't let it go. Is. Did you see. Okay, I know we've talked about this before, but the White Lotus series finale was last night.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

And the party was down the street. A hotel we go to. Four Seasons we go to literally, no exaggeration, probably four times a week. We have lunch there, we have breakfast there. They changed their menu a little too much for me. They don't have my steak frites anymore. But we love the onyx. We love all. Like, this is where we get married. This is where we go on our Easter egg hunts. Like, we love. This is our hotel. This is our hotel. Like, they know us. They don't even, like, give us valet tickets. Nothing. They're just like, hi, welcome back. It's been a while. Like, everyone knows us there. They're hosted. They hosted this series finale party. So not only did they have like a Q and A, the whole cast was there. By the way, did you see it? Yeah, the whole cast was there. And it's like. It's like not a big Four Seasons. It's like so random. And we are far out of la. We're like, I don't know, like an hour out of la. Like, it's just so freaking weird that it was there. I feel like they hosted it there for us. Like, I really do think that. Because, like, why else would they come out this way? Who lives out here? Nobody. Like, why would they come out this way? The whole casting crew there and they. They made it look so fancy. I was just like, it's why. I know. Exactly. They built a new pool this year and they made it so fancy outside because they had the full moon party there. And not only that, but Getty Images was there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, snapping random people that were there. I was just like, I saw Ari, Tana's friend was there. He was in the bed and they had a White Lotus like, gift set for him because you could stay there. It was like a three night event.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he's friends with the owner.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, well, maybe that's why he was there. But we got invited. We got invited by Max and they were. They kept following up too. Like, we need confirmation. We got. And I finally had to be like, we can't go. But I feel like we really missed our shot because Parker Posey talked about meeting Mike White at a party for the White Lotus, too. And she was like, I think I'm gonna get cast in White Lotus. And I think that was my moment to have met him and get casted because they're in our town. What did they do? White Lotus here at the Four Seasons there? Like, that's so crazy. And I was like, I think I missed my shot. I really do. I feel really sad. Everyone looks so good. Patrick Schwarzenegger was there. Like, every single person was there. Maybe not Walter Goggins, but my John Grease, who I love, was there. And, like, everybody, I'm so, so sad. And it was down the street. So then I saw all the pictures today, and I was like, I couldn't have been more disappointed that I wasn't there. It was crazy. I don't know. We could have probably. And the only. The thing is, Cleveland only has one direct flight out. Actually, they technically had two on a Sunday. It was 7am Which I wouldn't have gotten back from Charlotte in time, or it was our 9pm flight. And so we got back at like 11pm But I just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean.

[Moses Hacmon]

Do you know what I mean? Again, not to make this about myself, but, like, why is it in my city, in my town, it's a tiny town. No one's here. It's so weird. But they all came out for that. Why do you think? What are your suspicions?

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't the other one in, like, West Hollywood?

[Moses Hacmon]

Beverly Hills.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Beverly Hills. Yeah. That doesn't really give White Lotus vibes, though. I feel like this is probably the closest to, like, a White Lotus because it is more out there is more like there's hills. At least, you know, it's a little bit more scenery.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think it's easier to, like, transform the place here and have all that happen.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really? Yeah. Beverly Hills, where everyone gets married. The four season Hills, where everyone gets married.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do, like, all the movie junkets there, but they all look the same. So.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's what I was saying, though. But it's like, that's where they go because it's, like, central.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You have to come out, like, this is a far way to come out.

[Oscar]

Also, Beverly Hills is not what it used to be, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, they said they're not doing season four at a beach. There's no oceans involved in season four. That it will not be coastal. He said it's not cold because he doesn't like the cold. He doesn't like. It won't be like the Alps. Says something Europe. But it's like, we've already done Europe. So as a fan, as a plea, let's keep it tropical, because I think that's the magic of the White Lotus.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's just, like, beautiful to look at.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

But if there's no ocean, I feel like it might be more urban, like Tokyo or like, he said Europe. Oh, he said already.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, somebody had said Europe.

[Oscar]

So they might go like a beautiful city like Prague or, you know, like something Russia, Like. Like some kind of a. Really.

[Moses Hacmon]

Prague is crazy. That's where they shot the Hostel movies. And those girls got tortured in the Hostel. Remember that movie?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hacmon]

The Eli Roth ones. It was always Prague, and it was always, like, them getting tortured. It was like, no, okay, well.

[Oscar]

Or I hope they don't do their mistake that you did me the show you. And they went to London, to England.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, God, no more London shows.

[Oscar]

Don't go to England.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. That's where you jumped the shark that you. Season was terrible in London. Did you watch it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Season four? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Awful.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That was the last season, right? This, like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it was just not cute and ugly and just. Yeah, don't go to London. That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I heard. Well, he said that he's open to doing an All Star season of the White Lotus, too. Interesting.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know. I think not Survivor.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. More like Drag Race. It was gonna be Drag Race.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe for like a season five. I hope it's not next season. I feel like you need one more season of, like, you know, of people, and then maybe an All Star season. Maybe. There's some people I kind of miss. I kind of want to see Patrick Schwarzenegger back.

[Moses Hacmon]

As crazy as you were, like, the number one hater.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I. I did a full 180 on the. On Patrick Schwarzenegger.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because of his character. Because of him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, because his character. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

His characters are good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Full art.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I love seeing the side by side. You watched it last night?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Did you? Or you just saw the Tik Toks?

[Moses Hacmon]

Just saw the Tik Toks. I was on a plane. I was researching it. Were you happy with the ending?

[Trisha Paytas]

There's some things I would have changed. I get it, I get it, I get it. I get it. I get it. Because it was like. It was. I think the funniest thing is that, like, obviously the theories and stuff were like a Whole thing on TikTok and they. The theories kept going viral, and it ended up being the most, like, obvious the most in your face.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Things to happen is the thing that actually happened. Like, it was so transparent. Like, he couldn't be any more clear that it would. Spoiler alert. That it would be Chelsea, Amy Lou would. Would die. Like, it was so obvious with, like, the things happen in threes. And then the robbery, it was the snake bracelet. And then she got bit by a snake, and then the robbers had snake tattoos. And then, like, the dialogue with. With her and Walton Goggins was so like, it's forever. It's forever. Like, we're gonna be together always. I was like, oh, I see exactly where it's going. But so.

[Moses Hacmon]

And Rick.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it made. I mean, and then him killing his father at the end, I feel like that was also, like, super. It was super obvious and also a little cliche, but almost so obvious that what I was second guessing. I was like, he can't do this because it's so obvious. Right. But then.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And it's usually like, accidental and like, you know, kind of funny. The dad deaths.

[Trisha Paytas]

This one was, like, very intense and purposeful.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Very just Quentin Tarantino vibes. I was like, all right, well, damn, that's how it ended.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I. I knew too, because everyone was getting corrupt. Even little Belinda was getting corrupted. And Chelsea was the one, you know, pure soul. And I was like, damn, it really hurts to be a sweetheart out here.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, honestly, though, moral story is always take that money and run. You know what I mean? I'm GLAD it took 5 million because honestly, same. That's like, what else? Otherwise he's gonna try and kill you or something like that. So it's like, just take that money. She ditched the guy. She. Her love. She buy. I got to go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Poor Punchai. I. I feel for Punchai.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I like that name. Papunai. Yeah, it's a good name for a baby punch. I like it. Is it T tie?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm. I'm assuming, since I don't. I'm assuming, but I like it. And then the whole, like, fake out with Lachlan. I get it. Cuz literally everyone who was dubious got away with it. Because then if Lachlan did die, he would have had to. He would have been exposed for, you know, the murder suicide. And the fact that Lachlan didn't die means he got away with that. So I get that. Everyone had basically the moral story. Everyone. It was supposed to be like, Subversive and there was no happy endings, you know. So I do, I do get.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I thought the family had a happy ending to me. I was like, oh, they got a boat, they're leaving, they're fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean they're going back to, you know, losing everything they have. So.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe not. I hope that there was like a secret account. Wasn't the theory that Parker Posey's character has like a secret account and like this was Banks that she was like, the theory is.

[Trisha Paytas]

What we've learned is the most obvious thing. The thing that they tell you over and over again is likely the, the situation, you know, because there was theories. Lisa who played Mook was gonna be evil or whatever and then she was just a girlfriend who wanted a rich boyfriend, you know. So.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, she wasn't out here in this. In town.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lisa was here.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. I was like, what are they doing? Cuz like again, we live in a small town. I'm just like, what are they doing out here?

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn, damn, damn. Alicia Maria was there. Alicia Marie once again living the, the Trishan life. Yeah, I haven't.

[Moses Hacmon]

I didn't see many influencers so I felt a little special. I was like, wow, we got invited but I haven't seen any other ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

I follow Alicia, so. And she posted with a quickness. So she was the only one I saw. But I was very jealous. I am admittedly very jealous of Alicia Marie and Jake. She Shane. Those are the. I don't really get jealous of many people, but those two.

[Moses Hacmon]

Jake Shane starring in Hacks Hack Season 4.

[Trisha Paytas]

That boy gets everything. And honestly I wish it was. I can't even hate because I. When I was younger, not me right now, but like when I was younger, he's everything I would have wanted to be. You know, when I was like in my mid-20s, I was like, that was my dream was to be like a Jake Shane type. But didn't happen for me.

[Moses Hacmon]

My dream now I want to be that boy. I want to be Chris Olsen too. He had Meghan Trainer at his LA show. I was like, damn, I really need a Nepo friend. It's hard, it's hard, it's hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Jake really has it. He has everything, the world at his fingertips. But. And he's, he's at least sweet, you know, he's like, he's really nice.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I like that, you know, he is getting good things cuz he's a nice person. But damn, I wish that was me. I'm a good person too.

[Moses Hacmon]

What the hell I know. Maybe. I know. Maybe it's not our time yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Where's my Olivia Rodrigo collab? Where's my glass Glenn Powell cloud?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, we're wearing a Libby Rodrigo color. That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Manifesting Glenn Powell is crazy that you like him so much. I mean, I don't know anything about him, but I don't. I don't see him as having, like a fandom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone loves Glenn Powell right now. He's like. Because he's one of the straight guys everyone likes, I think, you know, confirmed straight. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. He went viral last week because he was crying at his sister's wedding. And everyone's like, you know, straight guy wearing his heart on his sleeve is.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's really easy for a straight guy. It's like, oh, he's crying.

[Trisha Paytas]

He loves his sisters. How sweet.

[Moses Hacmon]

Out here. Oh, my gosh. Well, shout out to them. Well, yeah, I thought it was. You know what? Still loved it, though. I just love. I love White Lotus cuz it is just so, like, fun to watch. It's just like beautiful to watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. It's like a good vibe. I. I saw a lot of people disappointed with it too, because everyone like, points all these little scenes or whatever. Like, what's the scene for? What's this interaction for? I'm like, that really isn't the point.

[Moses Hacmon]

What were the monkeys for exactly? I don't know. Just to show some monkeys. Monkeys in Thailand.

[Trisha Paytas]

Darian was kind of guided by it. He predicted it in the middle of the episode what was going to happen. But his theory from the jump was the monkeys got the gun and started shooting up the place. Which was a wild theory in retrospects, but you know, right. It's. Yeah, lesson learned. The most obvious thing. But also, damn, you can't have a whole ass shootout at the White Lotus. That I get. The other deaths, like, you know, maybe accidental didn't get on the news, but a mass shooting at the White Lotus, and that's not in the news.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, it wasn't. How do we know?

[Trisha Paytas]

At the end, they're just waving goodbye as if nothing. There wasn't a freaking mass shootout.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I didn't see that well.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also I was gagged that like, we didn't see Parker Posey's reaction to the shooting. Imagine Victoria, like hearing the gunshots. Like, that would have been really funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Where was she at?

[Trisha Paytas]

She wants to go to breakfast. So she was around the property, but they didn't show her reaction to the shooting, which I Thought was a little bit of a missed opportunity.

[Moses Hacmon]

But the women were right there. They were. All three of the women were just, like, right there watching it happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know Carrie, her bolting away, which.

[Moses Hacmon]

People argue that she had the least. Least to live for, that she didn't like her. She liked her life the least of all the women, yet she ran the fastest.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think it's just that New York mentality, you know, you don't. You don't wait around. You hear. Yeah, it's like, you know, gotta go.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was pretty, though. They had the shot of them at the end in the water, and it was the yin and yang, which I thought was really pretty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Her little shot in there. Are we gonna watch it or it's already spoiled for you? Because we have two episodes. We had to catch on. I know we haven't had time. We haven't had, like, one hour to watch it.

[Oscar]

Right. Because if we had the time, we would have gone to the actual season.

[Moses Hacmon]

We're here every night. We're here every night of our lives. How did we miss that one night?

[Oscar]

But, yeah, I'll watch it because I enjoy, like, again, I enjoy this. The place, the space that they create and. But I'm not like. The show is definitely. Nothing was happening, so at least I meant to see them.

[Trisha Paytas]

You won't be invited to the next episode.

[Oscar]

I need to see the last episode we've been building up for.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I do love. I love the characters. I love watching people act like. I don't know. I just. I loved. I loved. I seriously loved every single person on the season. There wasn't one person. Like, I loved the old guy and the young girl that was hosting. I loved, like, I loved every single. There wasn't one particular. One character I didn't like. I liked him all.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't like gay talk.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, he's kind of the hero, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he was annoying me because he was just like, bad decision after bad decision and sold out really quick. He was just so annoying the whole season and then at the end, selling out his morals to, you know, to get the job.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Do it sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I. I guess that's the point of the show. I get everyone is supposed to, you know, the money and power and all this corrupts everyone. And that's the point. But damn, Rip Chelsea, the one sweetheart who was holding it down. The one sweetheart at the White Lotus, holding it down for us all. The sweetheart representation. And she's gone. She's gone.

[Oscar]

They probably feel bad they're like, oh, no, we killed the actress that everyone wants to see more.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. No, All Stars.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. Well, they always do, but that's. That is what they do. That's why people also thought she was gonna die, because it's always the likable character. Like the first season two, he was so good. In the second season, obviously. Tanya.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The fan favorite. The fan favorites gotta go. But that's why it's. It's tricky, like with the season four, because obviously now they can't do like, an a beach or ocean theme now. But they also. It's. I feel like they gotta mix it up. Like, are you gonna do another, like, murder, who done it thing? Or can you have a mystery another way and still keep the tension?

[Moses Hacmon]

I do love the murder part of it, but y. It should be not as. Because, like, the first season, that was such, like, a non part of it to me. Like, you know. Yes. At the beginning, you saw, like, a body being put in the plane, but it was kind of like a non thing. You didn't think about this one. Everyone was just, like, trying to guess, like, who is it? What is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially because it opened with the shooting.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was so, like, intense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, even. I guess the first one had the body floating, I guess, too, in the water. Tanya was in the water.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess it's kind of tension. It's like, add some stakes and knowing that it's looming. But can you keep doing that every single season? I don't know. Can you still have tension without a death? I don't know. Did you see Woody Harrelson? Was he turned down being in the White Lotus to go on a family vacation?

[Moses Hacmon]

To live the real life White Lotus.

[Oscar]

That's what we did.

[Moses Hacmon]

We turned out White Lotus.

[Oscar]

Well, the. Being the finale. But oh, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

To go to Cleveland.

[Trisha Paytas]

Family vacation.

[Moses Hacmon]

Family vacation. Where there's no four seasons. But we did see at the Ritz Carlton with all the New York Knicks. And someone thought I was Mary J. Blige. At the Ritz Carlton.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. When I called, I got a number for security through my tour manager. He's like, this is the security person. They're gonna help you get in the back entrance. And I was like, perfect. And I called, and he's like, oh, your show is still happening. When we landed, I was like, my show, it's not until tomorrow. And he's like, oh, it's, like, still going on. And I was like, what show? He's like, is this not Mary J. Blige? I'M like, do you think. Would I be calling you? Like, what? I was like, this is not Mary J. Blige. I'm like, but. But this is Trisha Payton. And he's like, oh, okay. He's like, we're here. So I don't know, like, you can just come whenever. I was like, oh. But I never got confused for that before. But I was excited. But she was at the hotel and the New York Knicks were at our hotel. So we were in a White Lotus esque hotel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Work.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's no Four Seasons in Cleveland. But we did pass on the Four Seasons. You're right, we did. Or on the White Lotus Party. Woody Harrelson. I know what happened. Good. Was he supposed to be Rick or. Or who?

[Trisha Paytas]

Originally he was in talks to play Rick, but then he was supposed to be Sam Rockwell's character, the friend or accomplice. But yeah, he was in talks for. He tried to get more money because they revealed that, like, every cast member gets the same. It's like around 40, 000 per episode. And there's no, like, everyone's on equal footing, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, but did he deny that it was pay?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, in a sense. In the sense that he did go to try to get more money and he, like, met with like, the head of Warner Brothers to try to get more money. But then ultimately he said it was because the schedule conflicted with the family vacation he had planned. But it's like, what? You were trying to get our money and then all of a sudden. Because I think if the money was good enough, he would have been like, but I can wait on this vacation. Just come with me to Thailand. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

What a stupid move on his part. Because, I mean, I know he's known for like, Hunger Games. You're not playing Mitch in the next Haymitch. What's his name? It's not playing Haymitch in the next one.

[Trisha Paytas]

He could be, but no, I think.

[Moses Hacmon]

They will place him with someone else. Walton Goggins will play Mitch. I couldn't even imagine. I think that's what's so great about White Lots. You can't even imagine anyone else because it's like Woody Harrelson. I would just see, like, Woody Harrelson in that role. You know what I mean? Sometimes you can't be too famous either. I know all these famous people want to be in it, but it's like, I don't think you can be too.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think the charm is. It's like, you know, a C, B Lister. I think that's why it's. It works.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it doesn't take you out of the fantasy as much.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Because, you know, I tried to watch that American Horror Story over the weekend when I was traveling by myself. It was like, Kim Kardashian, the Kim Kardashian one. I love. You know, I love Kim, but you really do see Kim Kardashian. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't see a character.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's not her fault. I mean, she could, you know, act and stuff like that, but I mean, she looks like Kim, talks like. Yeah. I was like, okay. Yeah. So it doesn't really work on those kind of things.

[Trisha Paytas]

But there was also an article that says receding hairlines are suddenly sexy thanks to Walton Goggins.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I could see that. I mean, he is hot, but this is, like, a really ripped body and stuff, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, even. There was an article in Vogue that even said, like, receding hairlines are kind of in. People said that Walton Goggins is a lot of forehead and a lot of teeth, but somehow it still works for him. But I love that description.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know there's nothing wrong with it. Receiving hairlines are. They're kind of hot. I think that. I think it's so crazy when people are like, oh, my God, his hair is receding. Is, like, not cute. I'm like, well, he sells a cute face.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what's crazy about him, though, is he's had that hairline for, like, 30 years.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, he was in, what, Karate Kid or something in the 80s, and he had that same hairline. Yeah, he just have a big forehead, too, because I.

[Trisha Paytas]

My, like, hairline is definitely thinning out, and I was. But I also just have a big forehead. I either way, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, if I push mine back, like, I mean, it could look receding, I guess. Like, I mean, it's just far back. Like, I just have that kind of hairline. So I don't know, maybe they just have a big forehead.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because if it was really receding, it would have been completely gone over, like, 30 years.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right, right, right. Hasn't gone further back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Unless he just started, like, a treatment finasteride. Like, when it was like that, maybe it froze like that. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

But because, like, Dr. Phil had the receding, you know, because he had that little, like, hair right there. So. And is his teeth big? I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess, yeah. I guess just because his. There's a lot of room on his face, you know, I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

The analysis of this is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is fierce that, you know, he just spikes his hair up and it's just forehead out.

[Moses Hacmon]

I ordered some of his goggles. He sells.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does he really? Yeah, he sells goggles. Is funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And it's. It's all for my TikTok. You haven't seen it. Oh my God. And it's him like trying on these goggles and they're sunglasses but they have a band around the head. So I ordered a pair.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's weird.

[Moses Hacmon]

They have like Oakley's or something like that, but they're kind of cool. And they're called Walton Goggins Goggles.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so clever.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I think they're sold out. I ordered a yellow pair and a blue pair and I think they're sold out.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's his world now. He's really, you know, having his moment.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is crazy how that does like revive. It's like Jennifer Coolidge too. I feel like she obviously was always popular, but she really got a resurgence.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. I feel like the receding hairline though is almost like. It's like subversive because everyone's getting the Turkish hair implants. So if you have a receding hairline, it's kind of like Ozempic. Like if you're not on Ozempic, it's like fierce cuz you're like rebelling against the norm, you know, if you don't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Have a receding hairline. If.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz if you do have a receding hairline, it's like cool. Because it's so easy to go to Turkey now. Everyone's going to Turkey to get there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I get you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so easy to get oic and get skinny. So if you're not doing it, you're cool.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like Jeff said about myself too, I'm like, yeah, exactly. We're fighting the system over here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's true. I guess I could see that. Yeah. And he does have such a unique look. It's like, it's like Amy too, the one who played Rachel. Like they have such unique looks and it's just so refreshing to see because everyone does look so similar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And you're just like, oh, it's nice to see someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

But also he is like, what? He's so tall and like fit.

[Moses Hacmon]

So yeah, his body has like a good face. So it's like, it's not the craziest thing. Why don't they say that about Gary? He had a receding hairline.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're so.

[Moses Hacmon]

And no one's like, he's I think he is the sexy one, if I'm being honest. I think he is a sexy one. I think someone told me he may not be as straight, so maybe not for my mom. Yeah, I think he might be. Yeah. I don't know. Someone told me that someone's like, it's known that he's gay. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. Do you see him? I think there was one picture of him on the boat with, like, two hot. Do you see the two hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was the. The brother Patrick, and. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I thought he just brought them to Thailand. I was like, well, maybe. Maybe those are his plus two. Oh, it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was him. It was the episode when they were on the yacht because they were wearing the swim trunks.

[Moses Hacmon]

I always love seeing behind the scenes of, like, cast members smiling. Because he was with Belinda, too. I don't know the actress who plays her name. Natasha.

[Trisha Paytas]

Natasha Rothbudd. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were, like, together, like, smiling, and I was like, oh, I love to see that. Because you know that someone's, like, serious in the show and you're so scared for them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Look at them be happy together.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so cute. I can't. I still cannot wrap my head around the White Lotus. Filming for, like, seven months, though. Like, that is crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

That would be, like, a dream job. That would be so fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a long time. I guess it is, like, eight, almost nine hours. Right? But.

[Moses Hacmon]

But even so, like, I mean, movies can film in, like, a month.

[Trisha Paytas]

True. Yeah, I guess. No, a movie is, like two hours, so. But still, it is crazy because it's not like there's special effects or anything. It's just.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. It's. But that's like Bridgerton, too. Why does it take two years to make Bridget? It's like you have eight episodes. They all take place in a ballroom. It's like. That's so weird. What do they shoot, one scene a day?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I am so curious.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I wonder what I like more. British and White Lotus. Are they in the same network or.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no. Netflix and Max. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

If you had to pick Netflix or Max, which one are you choosing?

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, probably Max. I watch more than Netflix.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because some of the last of us. I like a lot of the movies on Max. But there's a lot of crossover, though, for the most part between. With. As far as movies with Netflix and Max and stuff.

[Moses Hacmon]

But what do we watch on that is Hacks On Max. Yes, we watch Hacks. What's that one? Righteous Gemstones, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that's also a Max. Minecraft will be on Max at some point.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, we have them. We have both. We have both Max and Netflix. I might like. I don't know what I like more. God, I don't know what I like more.

[Oscar]

I mean, we. In general, we're hardly on Netflix.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but I'm saying between British and White Lotus.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think for you, it depends on what's on.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true. Whatever everyone likes. Because you forget about White Lotus. And now it's over. And so now we're watching next. We have to go back to Netflix to watch you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. You is coming back. The last of us, I think, is next week. So I guess.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who's watching that?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think a lot of people. I think it's pretty popular.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm not watching it. Are you watching it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I like. I mean, Pedro Pascal. I love Bella Ramsey. They're really great. I don't know anything about the game, though. It's like another Minecraft situation. I don't really know the lore. I'm just, like, along for the ride, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's just a good show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think I ever watched a video game movie where I'm like, oh, I like this. I don't. I can't think of. Well, Mario. I haven't seen that one. You said Jack Lecture is a voice. Or he's in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's the voice of who? Bowser. The guy with the. You know, the big turtle. The show.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sounds like a good one. I don't know.

[Oscar]

It always comes up when Malibu playlist Peach in the song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar]

Is that the one he sings?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. He's just Peaches, Peaching.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, that's Jack Black, so you had to compliment him.

[Moses Hacmon]

I didn't know it was him, but it would play.

[Oscar]

Malibu loves it.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I think. I heard it so many times on that playlist. It's like, peaches, Peaches, Peaches, Peaches. Like, oh, I didn't know that was him. And I love Jack Black. Okay, that's crazy. All right, well, I don't stand him in everything, but that's fine. Okay, so we got to see my. When does Jurassic park come out?

[Trisha Paytas]

July.

[Moses Hacmon]

July. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think. Oh, my God. I think it's Superman or middle of July, and then. No, Superman's early July. Jurassic World is mid, and then Fantastic Four is end of July. So July's gonna be big for the boys. I think Jurassic World's kind of for everybody. I don't think there's Scarlett Johansson and Jonathan Bailey.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think she's for the boys. Like, if you think about, like, Black Widow, like, I feel like all her stuff is, like, for the boys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gays live for her too. Yeah, I think because she's just like. There's something fierce about, like, a hot girl in action movies that I'm like. It's like a diva worship kind of thing. Like, if you were in Tomb Raider, everyone would be like. Like Angelina Jolie, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

I'd love to be in Tomb Raider. That be everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

It would be fierce, you know, like you in a sexy costume. Like, fighting is fierce.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Done and done.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. I think it's like straight guys and gay guys like it for obviously very different reasons, but. Right, right, right.

[Moses Hacmon]

I always thought of her more for the straight boys, but I see what you're saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've always liked her in, like, the Avengers movies because she's like, like, just a fierce girl. Like, you know, she's doing all these crazy moves and she's, like, using her sex appeal to manipulate man. I'm like, fierce. I love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we saw the Black Widow in theaters, and I just was sleepy the whole time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, not the best movie, but, you know, I still. I still supported it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, I'll see it. I'm not seeing Superman. Who is Superman?

[Trisha Paytas]

David. David Corn Sweat.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we talk about him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

What is he again? I forget.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's in that thing that you like with horns. Went. What was it? It was on Netflix. Hollywood or something. One of the Ryan Murphy shows.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hollywood.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ben Platt was also in it, I think.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, politician.

[Trisha Paytas]

One of those. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Crazy. What is Hollywood? Oh, right, right, right. He was the dead one in that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Tom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I liked him with Ben Platt. I don't know if I want to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if Ben Plat's in Superman.

[Moses Hacmon]

I want to see Henry Cavill. No. Who's the one? Who's the one that I love? I gotta watch that show, too. We gotta put that on the list, maybe. Have you watched it yet?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not yet, but it does look funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think they're like, lack of shows out there. You know what I mean? I saw English Teacher, got picked up for season two, which, I mean, not that it's a bad show, but it's kind of crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

When it was on, it was like everyone was talking about English Teacher, though. It was like the moment. It's like one of those things where it's not on, so you kind of forget about It a little bit.

[Oscar]

I think what we watched.

[Moses Hacmon]

We never finished it though.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then Drag Race is almost over. I don't know, it's gonna be rough for me. I don't know what to that that like I always look forward to it. Like if it start on Monday, I'm like, okay, got to get through this week cuz Drag Race is Friday. But now it's like, oh my God, it's almost over. Then what is this?

[Moses Hacmon]

The last episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

This Friday, two more episodes left.

[Moses Hacmon]

So sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is very sad.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is done.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. There really is nothing.

[Oscar]

What the studio. What's this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Apple TV one.

[Oscar]

Severance is done. So yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

All right, we'll watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Oscar]

Oh, you can, you can hop on Severance.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hop on there. Hop on there, Oscar. We gotta finish White Lotus. Moses, me and Moses will be watching White Lotus in the fall. We'll be watching it in July when I have this baby. But let's finish White Lotus. And we love it. Yeah, like if we had even like 20 minutes to watch it, we'd be watching. I don't know what is happening. Really. There's nothing that one minute. It's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see everyone at the Ariana Grande influencer event? Because that was one of. That was maybe my joker. I think like that was my like inciting incident. Now I made a tik tok. So now I'm going to be a tik tocker. Because all the tik tok. Yeah, it's just Oscar. Just Trish.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do you have on there? Just this one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, my idea for my first tik.

[Moses Hacmon]

Tok is just great to the point.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, yeah, I like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

My. The idea for my first TikTok is. I almost don't want to say it because it's so funny, but I can't keep a secret. I can't give a secret.

[Moses Hacmon]

I need to hear this now.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know when we have a guest, I need to come and be in the hallway and then do the Jennifer Hudson thing. But it's just me.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's an obstacle course.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, it is crazy, honestly. No, after this we don't. We've had this plan, like we have to go through because tomorrow we do have a guest and like my agents are coming from CA and I was like, we have to clear everything out right now. Cuz it is crazy. Cuz we haven't been home and so we have all 5,000 boxes. But when people clear it out. That's good. I like that one yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least the guest is very agile though. So you could, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. We're clean it. We're cleaning it. Cuz it is crazy. Which is I've been gone so much and boxes are my duty cuz like I order everything and I like to see where everything is and it's like got to go through all that. So that's literally what we're doing after this. Which I'm like oh no. But I'm also like concerned about food because it's like do you ever think about that? Every day. When do you eat? Like I'm like when are we gonna get the food in? Because I gotta get this done but I also gotta get the food and I also gotta get my nails done. And like do you do the food.

[Oscar]

Before go get lunch then clear.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I thought we were clearing and then you can't do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Empty stomach, that's a lot of work.

[Moses Hacmon]

But then you eat, then you're tired.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. Darian calls it warm belly syndrome because he.

[Moses Hacmon]

He syndrome is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He gets really cozy after he eats.

[Moses Hacmon]

And he just wants to. Yeah, just like lay down. That's a tough one. Anyways, back to back to ask your gestures. I love it. I love it. Is ask your. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have to think of other Tik Tok so. Because that's really the only idea I have.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I thought you posted one about the Ira Grande thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that. But that was my inciting incident because I saw all the Tiktokers there and they were all doing little tik tok with Ariana. And then I also saw Sydney Sweeney have the same thing. Another like tik Tok event and I'm like damn, I agree.

[Moses Hacmon]

When who got to go to these?

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly? Oh, Jake Shane once again.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well he is the. The boy but all like the little.

[Trisha Paytas]

The beauty people. That one girl who does the Nicki Minaj impersonation but she ate so you know, kudos to her.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who's that? Sophia Grace? No, who is it who does Nicki Minaj?

[Trisha Paytas]

Hi, Sophia Gray, you're on the Ellen cake today.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's an Ellen stand. Back in the day I was on Ellen. What can I say? I'm loyal.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have to always see the girl on TikTok. I forget her name, but she does the Nicki Minaj like boys and she goes to red carpets and like she called out a Kiki Palmer as Nicki Minaj and Kiki ran over.

[Moses Hacmon]

She does is just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, she does a great Nicki Minaj.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't know everyone was there and I was like, damn, it's all the Tick Tockers.

[Moses Hacmon]

One person with Ariana Grande this week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I saw so many people.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh man, I didn't get either.

[Trisha Paytas]

Terry Jo's friends were there. Athena, I believe is her name. She was there. She did like three tick tocks with. She was keying it up with Ari. I was like, damn. Everyone was having a good time. Oh, Dallas Mendoza, obviously I did see him. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it was a height difference. What was she promoting?

[Trisha Paytas]

REM Beauty. So that. And really they interested invite Tick Tockers. So I'm like, damn, I guess you gotta be a ticker between Ari and Sydney Sweeney the same week. It was like the two planes hit Oscar towers. I was like, it's over. It's. Oh, I really gotta get on Tick Tock.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, so have you posted one?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but they're so easy.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're so easy. I do love a Tick tock. Like Tick Tock is my favorite, hands down. It's just so fun to post. Post. It is crazy when people don't post. Like I meet people at Mean Greets and like they just watch Tick Tock and don't post on my camera. You don't want to post? Like why? Like I watch Tick Tocks to get inspired, what to post, what to comment on. Oh my God, this is so exciting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, so we'll see how that goes. But I'm hoping it'll just be whatever. I probably will retire as soon as I get the invite to like someone's beauty event.

[Moses Hacmon]

One event you want to go to. Yeah, get that easily.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would think you would. I was like, linage. I feel like I could have been there with the Sydney Sween. I would have put on the little lip gloss and taking a photo with Sydney.

[Moses Hacmon]

They have a lot of boys go to these. Oh, it's dogs. They do, I guess Beauty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess.

[Moses Hacmon]

Jake Shane's not beauty though.

[Trisha Paytas]

It just cutie. He's just a cutie cutie.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know, I know. We never get invited to anything. That's why this white lotus I felt was meant for us to happen. Cuz I'm like, we never get invited. And then they followed up so many times like, are you coming? Are you coming? And I was like, Cuz I just thought it's generic, like it doesn't really matter. And then they're just like, no, would you come? I was like. And I had to say no. And I was like, what happened? We'll get another invite soon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, here's Hoping.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. You can come to the Heirs of Church tour. You're invited to that. Vegas.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's all I need. Yeah, Sydney, I'm good.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, are you going to Coachella this weekend?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm not going to Coachella this weekend. First of all, I'm pretty immobile. I can't really be walking around the desert.

[Moses Hacmon]

How are you? I even asked about that part. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I forgot. That feels like so long ago. Weirdly, because this past week was so long. Yeah, I was supposed to go for my mri. This isn't even. It is kind of interesting, I guess. They didn't tell me how small this MRI machine was. Like, I barely like fit in there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Triggered.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then we talked about it on, I think Patreon. I got suffocated as a kid, lovingly, I think by my brother's a lot. So I was like, I guess I'm mildly claustrophobic. I thought I'd be fine, but I laid down, they tried to put me in there and it was like a 35 minute thing. And I was like, I can't do this. I ran out of the freaking mri. I.

[Moses Hacmon]

When. When was this? Last week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Last week? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

How small? Like, what do you. How small?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I. It was like a coffin. Like, I had to lay like this.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, like a tanning bed, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even small, like, because I've done a tanning bed before and never cared because.

[Moses Hacmon]

It had some breathing air.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. This was like. You had to be slender. It was. I was like, oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

How did you run out?

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, sorry, sorry, I need to get out. And then I like, yeah, yeah. So I had to find the plus size MRI machine. But then it's like, they have one. Yeah. I love that because literally this one, they said it like when I went to the front desk, like, oh, yeah, ours are the smallest, like machines that are out. But you can go to this one that has.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe it's a compliment to you. They're like, oh, you can fit that one. They do that with my blood pressure. I'm always say, like, they take a blood pressure with a normal one and they put it up one and they put up one like, hey, let's get the. Let's get the bigger one. And then like the biggest size. I was like, okay, just, I have a big arm.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's better to start big and then go small.

[Moses Hacmon]

Exactly. They like when they put you on those scales like that used to go like this, they would start you at 100.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate that.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then move it to 150 and you're just like, come on, keep going.

[Trisha Paytas]

Keep sliding it up.

[Moses Hacmon]

Keep sliding it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't really do a big desert walking event like that. Although this. It does look pretty liddy this year, though. I will say.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know the Lady Gaga.

[Trisha Paytas]

I keep saying all the freaking billboards. Everyone's doing the Sabrina thing. Last year she did she espresso on a billboard. No, everyone's got a billboard.

[Moses Hacmon]

I saw. Was it Tyler?

[Trisha Paytas]

Tyler has one. Lady Gaga has one. Jenny has one. I think Ava, Max has one. They're all so fierce. And I would have. I would love to drive by and see God. You know who's gonna be there? Jake. Shane, probably, and Alicia. Marines.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, they're gonna be at all the houses. I mean, they're.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Ferris wheel, Neon carnival. That one house. What was that house everyone was at? Gas. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

David Oak does gas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. He's gonna be there, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sauce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

I can't believe he does Coachella.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does a lot of things that I'm like, huh?

[Moses Hacmon]

Tyler's coming for years. She's reheating your nachos. Hers was. Got Water was her campaign. You should recreate it. It's her just in a bikini with water squirting all over her and a hose. It's kind of cute, actually. I like this. Yeah, I like her a lot. Recreate it.

[Oscar]

I think it's a bit of a different approach to water than mine.

[Moses Hacmon]

Still the same message.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honest, Honestly.

[Moses Hacmon]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Water is the source. And it was. That was kind of the theme, I guess, of the finale of White Lilies too.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

The boy Lachlan saw water, so they thought that was, like, simplifying his death.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Everyone was kind of rooting for his death, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Not cleaning out a dirty blender. They're like, death.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy. I also like the idea toxic masculinity kills. But then he lived. So I was like, okay, well, I guess it doesn't kill.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it should, don't you think, period? I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It will. They'll kill all society. They know that. I hope these Minecraft kids grow up to be respectable. Hopefully they're teaching respect in that movie. I can't even imagine what it's about. Anyway, sorry, I'm gonna keep going back to it. I was like, I can't even imagine.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if there's really much plot to the Minecraft movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just some, like. But what do they do? Like. Like, Ax people or what?

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no idea. Everything I've seen is just like, a video game reference, which is good. That's like. That's the ticket, you know? Know, they just want to see the video game in a movie. Don't do anything fancy with it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Easy. Yeah, they did it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that's why Barbie worked, because there was no like. But there are all those Barbie movies.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, what do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, Barbie was like another one where it's like a beloved ip, you know, and.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it is, I guess, more of a blank slate than, like, a Minecraft.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess Barbie hindsight could have been better. I liked it. I was into the hype of it, but was like, they made it just a little too. A little maybe a little too feminist. I don't know. What? Right.

[Oscar]

No, I mean, the complaint was about there was too much Ken, like, in his world, in that whole thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, maybe. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then you were on here being like, why is Ryan Gosling getting all the awards? It should be Mar. Robi.

[Moses Hacmon]

My mind has changed. I've been in the Midwest for too long. Two weekends in a row.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe that's why you have the nightmares.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that could be. Okay, maybe you're right. I just remember at the end, her being like, okay, gonna be a real girl now. I was like, why don't you say in Barbie world? Why didn't you say. I can't remember. She was just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

She wanted to feel emotions, and they're overrated, honestly. Yeah, they are.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I'm saying. Kind of just, let's stay in Barbie world.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Barbara. I would have stayed there with no emotions and just be cute and living my sweet life every day.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's no emotions in Barbie land. Probably no one has borderline.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly. Gag it. That is so true. Yeah, There you go. Yeah. No mental illness in Barbie land, right?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. So stay there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're right. If I had the choice, I would.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just hear Lizzo every day. Hey, Barbie. I love. I love that song.

[Moses Hacmon]

I do love that, too. Just popping out of bed, floating down to your car, getting toast. I didn't have toast this morning. I think that was my. I gotta get toast and grapefruit today. That's all my checklist. We have no groceries. You know when you're gone for so long, and then, like, the morning, you're like, where's the toast? Where's the milk? Where's the grapefruits? Okay, we're gonna get that same. I need a snack. We have no snack. Snacks in here.

[Oscar]

In here.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I don't need any. I don't need one. I'm just kidding. It's fine. I'm okay. Thanks. I don't know. Even upstairs, there was no snacks. There was no, like, candies, you know, a little something. But I'm okay. I'm really fine.

[Oscar]

I thought somebody gave you Feble, like the peanut butter one.

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, a feastable.

[Moses Hacmon]

I always could go for a feastable.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's another one. I feel like we did a 180 on, too. But the chocolate's just good. I mean, I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I still don't know. Honestly, I've learned I don't really have a hard stance on many. Well, actually, no, it's a lie. Like, there's still people I dislike. I take it back. I retract what I just said.

[Moses Hacmon]

You don't. You like Kendall now. You like Justin Bieber now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't like. I. I admire people who like. I support from a distance, a comfortable distance. I don't like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who do you dislike still?

[Trisha Paytas]

I still dislike. I hate to say it, but, like, the Paul brothers, I think are still kind of annoying. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Which. You don't dislike them. You just think they're annoying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I kind of dislike. I. I still am. When they're a transphobic. I. I don't. That one.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm like, right, right, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't really forgive that one. Yeah. Recklessly transphobic. I'm like, okay. And then never really like apologizing for it when you were wrong. Who else do I. I guess Harry Jowsey, but even him. I kind of feel like you were.

[Moses Hacmon]

Trying to be friends with him two episodes ago, but okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's actually more Jake Shane. I'm like, damn, if Jake Shane is friends with him, then I guess, you know, Jake Shane has more influence on me than anyone. Anyone. Yeah. Truly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, if Jake Shane likes him, I guess I should, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

I get that. I get that. He's friends with him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn, you're so right when I see that.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, I think I started liking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Glen Powell after Jake.

[Moses Hacmon]

He really does influence you. You're gonna go see a show in la.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's the number one influencer. I guess I should.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then I. The outcome back just like, full. Octopus lover lives. Yeah. Like, my personality trait would be like, yeah, merch.

[Moses Hacmon]

I haven't seen his merch.

[Trisha Paytas]

What would it say? I guess, like, octopus lover.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's a good name, but it's kind of good name. He's really taken off see the man at McDonald's. It's kind of like not a celebrity hot topic, but just a hot topic I thought was interesting. Kind of divided on X too. There was a man who left his 10 year old, 6 year old and 1 year old at McDonald's. Did you see this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

And he went next door for a job interview and got arrested.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And so I would say the majority of the Internet was kind of on his side and was like, well, 10 years old is old enough to leave. Gave them to watch the 6 and the 1 year old. But then, you know, I guess the reason he got arrested was negligence or something or abandonment of his children. But he was right next door. It was for a job interview. Thoughts?

[Trisha Paytas]

I kind of agree. I feel like if to me, I didn't really look too much into it. To me, it kind of seemed like a systemic thing, like maybe even like a racist thing, to be honest. Because he's black.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that was. I mean, I didn't look into it too much though. But that's kind of the vibe I got because I feel like that's kind of a common thing. And I think it would be very different if it was like a white person doing it, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

Interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that was just my, my also.

[Oscar]

How does it help? So they're like, okay, you left your kids for 15, 20 minutes, so now we're gonna take you to jail for a longer time from your kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Where they go with the kids.

[Oscar]

Like, what's the point of that?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so trauma for them too. Yeah. Especially if they're like next door. Especially if it's a public place we got left. I mean, I don't know if I was. I guess I want to have a one year old. Maybe that's the issue. I don't know. But definitely my brother. We're three years apart. Definitely watched me at 10 and I was like 7.

[Trisha Paytas]

Austin. Probably the same with my brother. Yeah. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

They like left us at Sunrise. Byron, Illinois. They just like, oh, go eat at Sunrise and they come back and pick you up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I think he was right next door. It was a job interview. Obviously childcare is so expensive. Not everyone has access to it, so what the hell? I feel like it's also better for him to be like, right next door versus leaving them at home.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's true. So get them closer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And also make sure they're getting food, so. Because.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is there a legal age? I thought someone had told me it was like six. You could leave your kids Home alone or. I thought that was crazy. I was like, that's wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

So like it must vary.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like how it varies.

[Oscar]

I remember in 12 and 14, but it's. Someone said so it's a subjective. What if your 10 year old is really good at taking care of their sibling?

[Moses Hacmon]

Or like I swear we had one Hot Topics once. You said like you could be legally home alone if you're over the age of six or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

In California there's no specific legal age but. But professional. Oh. Experts recommend 12 years old is a good guideline.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, okay. So.

[Oscar]

But there's no age.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I swear we talked about one time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sixteen states require or recommend a minimum age from six to. So some. For some states it is six.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Which is like wild. But I guess we were left alone. I don't know. Guess you think in your house and yeah, there's cameras nowadays. I don't know. So interesting. Yeah. I mean to be arrested is crazy. I guess he. Did he get out? Hopefully he got out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hopefully.

[Moses Hacmon]

And like. Yeah. Where, like said. Where did they go with the children? Like who? I don't know. He's trying to get a job too.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like just went out and was reckless, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. There was a Tik Tocker girl. God, it's like that girl with all the tattoos. Yeah, she. She left. She left her kid over like night. It was like her one son, he was like. I guess he was older too, but she was out like 7, 11, 5.

[Oscar]

Maybe or something like that, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, really? Oh, I thought he was 10. Okay. So makes a difference. But yeah, she went out and she was like partying or whatever and the cops came to the house. But I don't think she got arrested actually, now that I think about it.

[Oscar]

Because I. I just don't know how they resolve it. You know, there's different ways to resolve it. But doesn't necessarily you go to jail or.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was my. Also a cancelable person is back to see Michael Weiss back on TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know Michael Weiss twice from Tanacon?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. And he is crying, he is sobbing. He is back. He is. He's ready to expose every on the Segway.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would have been iconic. The first Tik Tok back is to like you put the camera like you park on the little tripod and then you roll into the screen on the segue. It would have been fierce.

[Moses Hacmon]

That would actually been so good that he is back. He's all over my fyp.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's wild.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's Ready to talk about Tana Comp. Not talking about anybody. He hasn't said anything yet. He's like, can't wait to tell you guys the truth. I was like, do people still care?

[Trisha Paytas]

We saw the truth, right? We saw in the. We saw the unedited footage.

[Moses Hacmon]

We did see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shane Dawson, one Poor thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Poor Tana. Can't catch a break. I'm just like, oh, my gosh. I was like, this is crazy. Hopefully she stays in her peace era. I was like, isn't that crazy when people just come back like this from, like, I don't know, like, woodwork? Yeah. They. Now's the time. It's like, is it. I don't know. It's kind of done and done, but the whole thing is him about this. Like, it's so crazy as, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's great.

[Moses Hacmon]

People just love to come back.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like even when we rewatched it, like, on Patreon, we rewatched, like, the Tanacon Shane thing. I feel like. I don't know, like, Dramageddon, I guess was before it got, like, real, like, you know, dark. It was more of, like, a key, but Tanacon. I was like, yes. It. It's. You know, people got somewhere, and there was some, like, irresponsibility there. But considering everything else we've seen from influencers, like, the most dubious crypto scams. Like grooming craziness.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. Mr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Comparison. Yeah. It's like people breaking their bones and, you know, not getting tampons and stuff. Like, in comparison, it's like, we got bigger fish to fry, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

No. David Doberg. It's like, we love him. Snapchat. Guest. Hugo Boss. Boss, great. We saw him literally swing his friend around an excavator. But meanwhile, Tanner Con, like you said. Yeah, there was some sunburn. There was other people involved. She was kind of just part of it. She tried to help the situation. Like, will never. Will always forever be canceled. It is wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, in comparison. It's like. It really is insane.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, I. I guess Michael Weiss. I got. I don't. I don't know. I haven't seen anything of.

[Moses Hacmon]

From him, so he's all over the place. On my TikTok, I was like, damn. I kept seeing it. I was like, what the heck?

[Trisha Paytas]

Heck, I think it's more camp if he does something on the Segway. Like, I feel like, hey, Tana, you want to collab on for Tik Tok? Riding a Segway? I think that will do. Numbers versus, like, A Tanacon expose. Because you were just like a kid trying to put on a convention and you didn't know what the hell you were doing. That's really what it boils down to.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Tana was just go along with the flow. Not to tie back to White Lotus, but it was kind of giving Rick. Because she was also trying to get her revenge on VidCon1 nothing good.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's so true. Yeah, that's. That's a good point. That's a good moral from that story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Some. You just got to be at peace, you know? Let karma do its thing always. That's why I always tell people, don't seek out revenge.

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It does always kind of backfire on you. Literally.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So. Oh my God. Whoa. Yeah. Literally. Damn. But yeah, I feel like Tanacon, we've all moved past. I like the Tanacon memes though. I feel like it's just a fun thing to throw out there every now and then, you know? But.

[Moses Hacmon]

But yeah, not like have it re up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seeing the random Tik Tok Gabbie Hanna performing at Santa Con, I always think that's fun.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know if I. Did we watch? Did I see it? What song did you say?

[Trisha Paytas]

I forget, maybe Monster, I want to say cuz it was pre butterflies and all that, so wow. Originally or out loud maybe that's good. But then remember she was like, well, it is a Tana Mojo event. So. Cuz she.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's shading the event. She's performing at like, girl, you're there too. What is happening? No Vidcon this year for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

But maybe after my first tick tock, they'll invite me and then I'll be.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, would you go if you were like a creator?

[Trisha Paytas]

A creator? Yeah. But I think again, I've learned from Tana. You can't. If you. If you don't have that featured creator badge.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is that even like a thing anymore? I wonder if there's like still parties. I know. I have no idea who's going to these things.

[Trisha Paytas]

They did have a squishmallow swimming pool last year or something. That did seem fun.

[Moses Hacmon]

But was it in the water? It was just a pool full of.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was just a pool full. Full of squish. Oh, you know what it was? It was like a pool full of squishmallows. But you were like a human claw machine and they would lower you and then you gotta like grab as many squishmallows as you could.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, I like that. That's kind of a cute little promo.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that is the one thing I would want to do.

[Moses Hacmon]

How are you in a claw machine? Are you like suspended by a rope or what?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. They like harness you and then they lower you into this pool of squishmallows and then you grab one and then that's that. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And these were adults during your kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw Jenny Nicholson doing it. You know Jenny Nicholson? She was the one that tweeted about Shane at Disneyland.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, I see Shane is. By the way, shout out to all the people who love when I talk about Shane. They're always like, stop talking about it. He posted a video I saw like 17 hours ago that says like something about Disneyland again. I was like, damn, he really is going hard on him. Like. Like it was like worse things about Disney or conspiracies about Disney again. Yeah, I haven't watched it, but I did see the video.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess theme parks are his thing now. Maybe. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, he's like, I'm skinny. I'm gonna go on all the rides.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which honestly I get that. You know, being a fatty who couldn't fit on a lot of rides. It is liberating to finally be able to get in there.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true. That's me with a booth. I can't wait to go back into booths. My belly is so big. We had to build our own booth. And I was like, okay, finally can fit into one. But it's scary. There's some that are. Who's the tightest booth. There's some booth I really can't fit in. I'm like, oh, I gotta like sit on a chair. Chair. And the chairs are scary. Cuz it could break.

[Trisha Paytas]

Broke. It was already broken when you sat on it.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it's like the third chair I broke. So scary. And the boots, they think they make them for big people. But then the bellies don't fit in.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Boobs have always been tricky because. Yeah. And then if you're wearing shorts then usually you stick to the F. Yeah. It's always a mess.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's the worst in the summer is getting out. You know, most laughing cuz I'm always sticking to those.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also when you're the big one in the booth and sometimes you know when the table you can push out a little bit. But then all the skinny people have to like reach on the table. But for you it's like right. Your belly is like touching it. You know, that's always the worst. Skinny people have this Much room.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, you can slit. Okay, so what I do cuz malu sits next to me, I slant it so I have mine this way. Cuz Mo's on the opposite side. So he gets it. Yeah. And then she gets it a little closer to her. So it's actually kind of nice. You have to scoot it all the way.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good life.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love it. Yeah. I was on a golf cart. I think I talked about this in Connecticut at the casino. They put me on a golf cart. When I got onto it, it did kind of go down a little bit. I was like, I'm so sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

That happened to someone else too. Maybe it was Lizzo with, like, cardi B. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I saw recently on X2. I was like, what is this? I mean, they're tiny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't blame her for that, too. That probably is what made her, like, be like. Yeah, get me on that.

[Moses Hacmon]

For sure. I mean, those kind of things, you're just like. Especially when you break chairs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And you know, you never forget it. When I couldn't fit on that Six flags ride. I'll remember that for the rest of my life.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is sad. I guess it's good, I guess. I don't know. To be safe, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I guess if you can't fit, it's better than to squeeze in there and, like, something happens. But it is scarring, you know, I'm with you.

[Moses Hacmon]

I've been scarred many times.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me trying to fit into that freaking mri, that was, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that sounds so triggering. For real. I know. I hate getting weight. Every time I go to the doctor, they always weigh me. I'm like, do we have to do this? I don't know why we have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's just guess.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love that. Give them. I definitely give a rough estimate. I definitely be like, I'm around 250.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because they ask for your height, and I always just like, you know, throw out a number. They never, like, you know, put the measuring tape to you, but for weight, they really make you get on that scale.

[Moses Hacmon]

You're so right about that. I think my license says I'm 180.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fierce love. That'd be crazy teeny when you got your license.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, why am my license probably, like 180? 60? I was like, 18, but my picture in my license. But now I have a new updated one where I probably was more 200.

[Trisha Paytas]

But stick to the 180. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

200 would be crazy on there. If you have like 5 foot 3. 2. I mean, it's fine. It's honestly fine. I gotta rewire my brain into saying that because there's some people come to me in green so like, you know, as a bigger person, they're like not big at all. Like, are you okay? Because you are so. I need to stop saying it too because I'm like. I mean I obviously am, but like the actual tiny people. And I'm like, you're actually tiny, but okay. Okay. That dysmorphia, it's so real for people. It makes me so sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. No easy transition, but Michaela finally opening up about Cody on Tik Tok.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah. I did actually comment this on Tik Tok. I rarely comment on current events live cuz I'm like, oh, we'll talk about hot Topics. But I did feel for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, me too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Watched it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She talked about how Cody had to go to rehab. I sympathize. I like totally sympathizing, you know. But is the only off putting thing was like waiting until you have the skincare line and then doing the get ready with me and then using your own products and then making sure the pro. The label of your products is front and center. Like it wasn't even like. Like I could tell it was purposeful that the label of her products was literally like centered because you know, it's like a spherical thing. You can. It could be, you know, tilted a little bit. But she made sure the label was like not covered at all and like facing the camera.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it was so like right in my face. That's literally the first thing I noticed was like her using her own like.

[Moses Hacmon]

The Kardashians with McDonald's and stuff. When it's like in your face. The product placement. That's interesting. I think. Yeah, I think, I think Lesson rule number 101, if you're trying to come across sincere, is like, don't have any product. Don't be promoting something. Don't have it be sponsored. Yeah, I think that's. Yeah. Usually a good rule of thumb. I know whenever I talk about something serious, it's like, let me make sure there's like nothing that could be like no merch. Like. Okay. Because I like my wear my own merch. I'm like, let me take it off if it's something serious, you know, because I didn't know. I actually didn't notice that that was like her big one that got like 17 million views.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

She did like a follow up where she was like eating celery or something. But this was her big one.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that was just like, the timing.

[Moses Hacmon]

You thought the timing.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then this. The product placement was just, like, off putting. Talking about something that is, like, so serious. I think also because Michaela is someone who is very influencer. Like, she is, like, a stereotypical influencer, you know, so it would have been nice to have like, a genuine, like, connection with her where it was like, no other things.

[Moses Hacmon]

They couldn't see the products in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because she's known for taking opportunities to, you know, hawk a product.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So to see her not hawk a product would have been okay. I haven't seen that taste because I.

[Moses Hacmon]

Even sent it to Moses. I sent him a screenshot. I'm like, this is crazy. If I didn't even know, I didn't even notice it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then so the other thing, too, is like, I'm like, not even at Michaela hater. Like, I'm very. I'm supportive, I think, to go through that, like, have your husband be an addict, obviously, I can not even relate to it. That is so hard and scarring and tough to go through, like, loving someone who is just that sick and trying to make it work, you know, is so hard. And also to, like, be away from them as they get their life together. But also, I love that she said, you know, when he gets his himself together, he can come back and I'll have. I'll be here. Open arms. I'm like, that's a beautiful thing to say. But then also, it was. She was a little bit like, screw. That's why, like, you hate her. Speculating on whatever. It was almost like a gotcha. It's like, oh, see, this is what you get for everyone who was, like, being nasty to me.

[Moses Hacmon]

I see.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she was also, you know, she was the one making the tick tocks on what and being sad. Being sat in bed.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Cody, next to her, eating the McDonald's the crumble. Like, she was the one making content around it. So there's some stuff where it wasn't the most genuine, you know, which was, like, a little disappointing. But I do think the message was.

[Moses Hacmon]

At least still good think about any of this. I was like. I was like, wow, that's sad. And I even said in mind, I was eating some pasta in my hotel room, and I was like, damn, y'all. Y'all should feel really bad about this. Which I guess was her point, because that was crazy. That kind of did come out of nowhere and should have since, like, 2023. And they got married in 2023.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

What the hell happened? And then she. I revealed maybe she said people knew about this, but I didn't know that she met him while he was in sober living.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know that either.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I was like, damn. I mean, that's a lot. That is like, hard on to take. Like, if you meet someone in sober living, it's like, damn. I mean, I know obviously they're people and deserve love, but, like, it's. That's hard. He's like, really young too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, because I'm, like, very empathetic, I think.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. It's sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is sad. And anyone who I. The. The general theme, right. Is like, you never know what people are going through, obviously, but then. And she does get a lot of people who just hate her. And it's like, you know, hate her just to hate her. Yeah, I do get that.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then there is. If you. Do you, like, troll a little bit too, then aren't you kind of inviting some of that in? That was like, my only, like, pause. I was like, well, you did really go hard making us all, like, think something was wrong, like you were getting a divorce or something. Because.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

As a passive Michaela viewer, I never would have thought anything if she wasn't sitting there making the tick tocks alone in bed being sad.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right, right, right, right. Because we talked about her and with that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, it's tough. It's tough when I see, like, influencers get hate and it's like kind of like silly hate. Because it's like, yeah, she like trolls. But it's like, is that serious? You know what I mean? Like you said, compared to like, the Paul brothers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's like, it is crazy that the girls get. Because I know Remy. She hasn't made one. Remy. Joe Bader hasn't made one in a while either, too. It's like how they get, like, so much hate for something that's like, overall not serious. Like, understand why people are upset, especially if you're like a follower or fan. But it's like, overall, like, not that serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Moses Hacmon]

And people go hard, like, they are like, unfollow, can't stand her. Like, how turned against her. Like, damn. It's kind of scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because it is one of those things, like, how do you talk about it? Michaela's young too, where it's like, God. I mean, I guess you just think to. I don't know. I've done a lot of, like, videos where I've talked about some. I don't know it's kind of weird to like. Like if in my. One of my videos I just talk about like a product or something or have my product there. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's tough like if you were doing like if you were doing. Responding to like the Colleen stuff but then you were also being like come see the air as a trace. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's so hard cuz I guess if it's just there and you're just using the products all the time. I guess and her thing is get ready with me. Yeah.

[Oscar]

I think she's always been a businesswoman and she's. She never was like that influencer that you get to know P Like on.

[Moses Hacmon]

A personal level I think people disagree. I think they think they know her.

[Oscar]

She always been like it's business, you know and I'm going to sell you something and I'm here to sell something.

[Moses Hacmon]

But she talks about her personal life like.

[Oscar]

But like let's say okay, she knows she has a big story. She's gonna talk about him. It's gonna get millions of views. I'm gonna put my product in there. Like everything goes around. What am I selling today? And you know, is it the sponsor post? Is it my product? Is it.

[Moses Hacmon]

That might be a hot take.

[Oscar]

She's. She never came across as somebody that connects to her fans on a very personal level.

[Moses Hacmon]

I always thought she did. But I know what you're saying because a lot of people agree with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the new age of Mikayla is like that. But I think the origin is that if that makes sense.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I has has to start somewhere to gain followers.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah but I thought she was like real. Like she would talk about her skin and her. You know, just everything. Like I always thought she was like kind of a real.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that was her origin. But then she was kind of like what Moses said like cuz then she was hawking products. But then later I forget what brand she was like I love this brand. But then like two weeks later it was like products I'm never going to finish. And it's the product. She does that stuff a lot. So it did kind of become a pain paycheck. Although I will say even though I am criticizing her, I love that despite going through some things so hard, she's still working. She has a really good work ethic.

[Moses Hacmon]

If I positive she was traveling, she was doing which like you said, yeah, it's a distraction but that is crazy to go through like you just get married. They've only been married like a year and a half. You just get married, he's an addict, you kick him out, you have to do all these jobs.

[Oscar]

I feel so bad for her. I mean, on the personal level, it's the worst case scenario because addiction is the worst to deal with because it's really, it's heartbreaking. You see a person you love and there's no way you can help them, and then that means she's alone. And that was like her person, you know, Like, I don't. Cuz I. I don't think she connects on personal level with people around her. I think that was her person, that was her personal life. And he's not there. And it's horrible. I mean, I feel it's really, really, really awful bad for her.

[Moses Hacmon]

And it's like for a life. Like addicts are for life. Like you're always an addict.

[Oscar]

It's tough. Like I feel awful for her. But aside of that, I just think, I just think she's a business influencer. Like, you know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think that would have been a good opportunity for her to be authentic, like fully authentic, you know, because it is something so personal and like something that like so many people can relate to and like, really side with her. So I think it was an opportunity to just be fully like. And she could have just sat down and not showed any products and it still would have gotten millions of views. But for sure she liked the business hat off.

[Oscar]

So does she ever do podcasts? Does she ever talk outside of her platform? That's what I mean. Like, she doesn't seem to care about having a conversation or talking about her or giving anything without getting something for it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I think she's like kind of like scared too, because people do call her out. She's probably like scared to not to do podcasts. But yeah, it's like the equivalent of like YouTube videos. Like if you were sincere back in the day, you would say, oh, I turn monetization off. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's how you knew someone was sorry.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then you'd have to screenshot and show. And I did that quite a bit when I. Whenever I was like, serious, I was like, let me turn the monster off and like show. You know what I mean? And it sucks. It does sucks. You know, it's gonna get views, but you're like, okay, if I'm gonna be.

[Oscar]

Sincere about this, I did this recently with the documentary.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah, you're right. Yeah.

[Oscar]

He just did that.

[Moses Hacmon]

And maybe him and Mikayla need to have a sit down together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

But I think there's nothing wrong. That's just her business model. I think there's nothing wrong with it. Like I don't expect her to be.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like there is something wrong with product placement on like such a serious issue. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

But that's what I mean.

[Moses Hacmon]

If that was the case. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Like I, I don't see. She never had a. Like, I don't see her as a platform to talk about serious issues. I see it as just this is all advertisement all the time. It's just question of what she's going to use to advertise the thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

But if we're like getting a divorce and I'm like showing like if I'm drinking out of this, I'm like, so it's really sad. But guess Moses like cheated on me. You know what I mean? Like it's like you don't really.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the eras of Trish posters behind you.

[Oscar]

Passionately. You have a. A passion of sharing your life. She does. I think she has that.

[Moses Hacmon]

She does. I'm.

[Oscar]

I think she has a passion of selling and getting views.

[Moses Hacmon]

Tick tock is weirdly on Moses aside lately. Everything. He has a whole Stan account on there. Moses knows everything is like Moses gets it. Moses is so smart. Okay. I disagree on this one. But I. I get you. I just think she always was like a real person. I think I kind of agree with Oscar. Like when she started changing people like what the hell? Like you always told us everything about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your life and how that's how she got big was. She was like real and people like trusted her because she had that connection. But then there was the point of like selling out business hat on. And then it became money for. I mean even her wedding had like, you know, sponsorship elements to it too.

[Moses Hacmon]

So the elf.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was really no life event that is, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not a business thing. Which I guess would agree. But also she must have the money at this point. Right. So it's like you could have this one thing, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Especially like your own skincare line, you know, not to be. Whatever. It's probably gonna come and go. Like everyone's like comes and goes. You know, mine did too. Like it's. It'll. It'll be around for a few years and it'll close, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I was like, did you really need to promote that with this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I don't know. And also if you're getting views, people will know about your skincare anyway. You know what I mean? People go to, like, a lot.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, link her main link.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Speaking of links, it's like, way into the show. It's like, oh, it's. Here's my promo at the end of the show. My link tree is available now. Put the link tree in the description. My link tree is available, and my billboard's up in Times Square above the M M candy store. Go to linktree.com trishapadas today and send us pictures.

[Oscar]

We want to see it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, send us pictures. They haven't sent me the billboard yet. Is it Aaron's and Trish billboard up? I don't know. They're like, do you want us to put a billboard at that? I was like, I guess it's at the M M store in Times Square. My favorite things. I go to that all garden. I said that w. Like, that is my. That's my little corner. So it says it airs every 300 seconds. So go to Times Square and check it out. Thank you. Link tree not sponsored.

[Oscar]

You're becoming a staple in Times Square.

[Trisha Paytas]

You really are.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're like, oh, do you want to do linktree? They'll put up a billboard. I'm like, I guess that's my. I guess that's my compensation. I don't know. It doesn't matter. I love it. I always wanted a link tree, and I'm not even being sponsored. I really did always want a link tree. It just seems so freaking hard to put all those links in. I was like, it looks so pretty.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can just.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, complicated. No, it's like, oh, my God. How do you kind of. They have my store in there. They have my tour tickets.

[Trisha Paytas]

I made one, like, and it took like, seven minutes. Yes. For like, three links.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cool. I like it. My link tree is very cool. And check it out today. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that you made a link tree in 2025. Yeah, it's big. Big things are happening.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's a cool link tree. They did a good job. My billboard's up. Go check it out. All right, well, do we have anything else? We wrapping it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

The final one is. Yeah. Did you see the TikTok David Dobrik deleted with his assistant?

[Oscar]

Oh, he deleted that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Okay, this is.

[Moses Hacmon]

How come you didn't tell me about a David Dobrik news? We were together all week. How come we never, like, you see David Dobrik like, you taught me everything. Oh, I have a Minecraft dissertation plan. Okay, where's the name of don't break debrief? I didn't know this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, wait, you didn't see the TikTok?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let me.

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me play it for you because that'll be. That'll be the gag. It is quite something. And at first I thought it was just trolling, but then he deleted it, which makes me think he was serious, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, no, he's always serious. Fear feel.

[Oscar]

Because it was produced in the long one.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was long. It was like almost two minutes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is it a troll?

[D]

The day started a little bit rocky, but I picked myself back up and headed to the grocery store because David wanted his favorite meal. You can definitely say he's a picky eater, but when I first started working for him, he flew me to Chicago so I could learn all of his mom's recipes. And a few years later, you can definitely call me a pro. David's been anticipating this weekend for far too long. It's one of his closest friends bachelor party. Like the presentable guy I know, he needed a little haircut. It was time for me to hit the road and hop on a plane to Vegas. I needed to get there a little bit early, so I made sure that everything was perfect for my boss's big weekend ahead. I checked him in, and then it was time to unpack. And the most essential item is David's pillow. Whenever he's traveling, I make sure to bring from his bed. And then I start to unpack some of the items that make David feel.

[Moses Hacmon]

A little bit more.

[D]

And then I started to hang up David's clothes. I wanted to make sure that they didn't get wrinkles so that he could see where everything is. Then I moved into the bathroom and added some of David's favorites. And then it was time for the fridge. David loves a good butler pantry, and the boys needed plenty of options. This is pretty much just Assistant 101 at this point. I heard the door open, and guess who it was. My boss. That means it was time to lay out some of the assorted snacks just case he was hungry. Then David arranged a little surprise for his friend Mike, who's getting married. And he surprised him with his very own Rolex. Last but not least, David had one more special surprise. And he knows how lonely Ilya gets on these trips. Without his girlfriend, we decided to give him the gift of a handheld companion. Ilya's very own Ultra bowl by Blessed was sponsored.

[Moses Hacmon]

Probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a brand new Ultra Blow. I mean, I know it seems like I'M kidding. But this thing has eight settings, five inches deep, so you may get lost in there. Okay, so which mode is your favorite?

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have my own box over there. So just to avoid that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm getting rude.

[D]

Natalie, be like Ilia and get your own Bellesa Ultra bowl for free. Right at the Lincoln Bio. That's a wrap on the weekend. Bye.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, well, sponsored.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then deleting it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, what. What was the hate comments?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because, I mean, well, everyone was like, this is the grown man. Why is his assistant being his mother, his babysitter? So I honestly, I initially wasn't even gonna make it a hot topic because I was like, oh, it's so obviously like trolling rage bait. But then he deleted it after everyone was calling him out for it. So then I'm like, wait, was part of it, like, for realsies? Because he also has another one, like, they've done it a few times where his, like, he's posted to his tick tock her. His assistants, like, day in the life or whatever, and she. She posted one like the beginning of the last month and that one's still up.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like this might be like a weirdly hot take from me, but I wouldn't even think anything, like, weird about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

A grown man having to like, bring little Nerf guns and a comic book and he had L'Oreal Kids Shampoo and soap.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. I feel like I've, like, been around a couple personal assistants from people that they do crazy them like that. Like, really, Like, I've never had a personal assistant and it like, blows my mind that there's people like that and maybe why I would never have have one. But. Yeah, no, I agree. I think it's like, weird. But I hear weird all the time from personal assistants.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe. I know, like, three personal assistants I'm thinking of that have done like. Yeah, that kind of had to do all that weird thought to me, I was like, oh, that doesn't look. I think it's weird. Of course, I don't know. I didn't think of it as, like, trolling. Like, I was like, that literally looks like probably what she does. Because I remember even back in the day when he had Natalie go like, do random like that. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

You did talk about when she went to like, gummy bears or something like that. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah. Like, picking things out. I know. Like, even stories of people I don't know, like, JLo, like, you know, having to pick out like, certain colored, like, m M's or something like that for. So they can only like a certain, like, color or something, you know? So I don't know if that's like a thing at least.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like a diva. Maybe she doesn't like the W. Whatever. The W40, whatever.

[Moses Hacmon]

No W, yellow 40 should, like, pick all them out. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, at least, like, if it at least was a little bit cooler. But I'm like the. The kids shampoo and soap. And then you have to have. Why do you have to have like, Nerf guns laying around? Why do you have to have. Have a. Like a comic book from the Avengers like, on.

[Oscar]

The backlash that I saw was more about. Related to Jeff and that Rolex. They were just like, about all the money throwing away while he could just.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, so there's two different backlashes.

[Oscar]

That's the one I saw was more.

[Moses Hacmon]

About when I was a personal assistant to that meat guy. I remember having to do some crazy weird too. It was just like. I remember, like, the Ed Hardy store would open at like 10am or something like that. But I had to call. I had to try. It was like. It was almost like the Devil Wears product where I have to call, call to get the shirt before it was even released at 10am so I'm like. I had to figure out a way to get into the store at the Christian Auditor Shore on Melrose at 8am and he's like, if you can't figure it out, you'll be fired. So I remember I was like, going there, like, trying to tell them, like, oh, my boss is like, sick. He's dying. Like, I need this shirt or whatever. Because he's, you know, he might not even live to 10:00am like, you know, just doing random stuff because he's like, you'll, like, literally be fired. I remember having to go to a club at like, midnight. A club. I had to dress up as a girl and I had to pretend that I was like, his girlfriend or whatever so he could get out of this date. So I had to, like, go and be like, I can't believe you're cheating on me. I was like, 18 at the time. And so, like. And this is a guy selling meat out of his truck in Hollywood. You know what I mean? So I don't, like, it's not the craziest thing to me, the Rolex thing, I feel like has been brought up because he's done that before. He, like, bought a watch for like 100,000. And so, like. And yeah, also, like, annoying, but it's also like, David never cares about hate, so it's weird he deletes that because, like, to me, this is. I hate David, but it's like, this is, like, one of the least things that he would hate on everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, this is what you delete.

[Oscar]

It's like, okay, well, the sponsor wanted it out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's period. Yeah. Okay. That's it. Because we've had that happen before, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where they're like, please take this down because no association.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Which is, again, weird because he does get Hugo Boss. He gets, like, sponsorships. It's. It's odd. That one's odd to me, because to me, I watched it. I wasn't like, I hate him. I hate his face. But also, I'm like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

To me, I was just like, damn, again. But I have a very different delusional perspective. I was like, this was the guy that I had. I was.

[Moses Hacmon]

I fell for growing up is realizing that. Yeah, that's for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, damn. Like, I could see that being, like, cutesy in 2019, maybe when he, you know, was younger, you know, little like a. Not disillusioned yet, I guess. But then it's like, damn. After everything, you're still. This is still what you, like, want the brand to be like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And especially because he went through so much effort to get the body makeover. He does his podcast talking about, like, hooking up with girls. And, like, you think that would be a little bit more. So he's. There's parts of him wanting to be, like, grown up, and then there's still, like, this where everything is, like, you can't even get a haircut for five minutes without playing the Nintendo. We.

[Moses Hacmon]

Embarrassing. Yeah, for sure. Especially, I think Tana was even talking about canceled, especially because, like, when you have a body transformation, people think you've transformed. So he had that opportunity where people were, like, on his side again, just because all of a sudden he's, like, ripped. And it's like. And I think Tana talked about the show. The next time I get canceled, like, I'm just going to, like, get ripped. And people forget it because they think of that as, like, a mental transformation, too. And so to go and revert back to this. Yeah. Like, yeah, you look like you're a loser and you look pathetic. And just because you have money, doesn't it mean. Makes you any less of a loser? So it is, like, stupid and weird, but he's just got so much hate. So you might be Right. With like the brand wanting it down because he does not care. He gets all the time. He blocks things.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I'm all for a little bit of, you know, whimsy and a little bit of, you know, childhood holding on to that inner child, whatever. But this was like, you literally can't do a single task without acting like a 12 year old.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, he is. I mean, he literally is stunted growth, that's for sure. I guess. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's bad when the ultimate blower cancels you when they're like, you know what? Even a blow machine is like, we don't want to be associated with you. Like that's when, you know, you effed up. It's not even like dominoes, you know, it's like this is like a blower for the ultimate man. Like, oh, actually we don't want to be associated with this. I mean, it was like a good sponsorship for him and got it taken away. Well, that means he had to buy that Rolex without the sponsorship money. He probably still got paid because there's always clauses where like, you still have to pay me. I posted. Posted it. You know what I mean? Which sucks. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it did get views before it got deleted, I guess. Yeah, it was originally Tick Tock.

[Moses Hacmon]

I wonder what the caption was. I want to see what the caption.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's true. Caption. This other one, paid partnership. I feel like he never discloses. Yeah, even like the, what's it, the body transformation. What's it called? Villa Zela. I feel like you ever disclosed that. And it's funny because listening to the Tick Tock tv, you I was like, oh my God, it's so annoying how they laugh at everything. But I'm sure I'm like the vlog squatters are listening to this. Like, oh my God, I can't believe that gay guy lasts at everything Trisha says. So I can't even really be squad.

[Moses Hacmon]

I do love a laugh track. I can't fault him on that one. It is kind of funny. I might make you do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

He would be like, do that again and people would just be like laughing.

[Trisha Paytas]

He could have really had me and I would have been there laughing at everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, you would have been great.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have liked, literally been like in stitches at anything he said back in the day.

[Moses Hacmon]

Never too late.

[Trisha Paytas]

He lost me. Oh, no, no. It is too late. Yeah, it's too late.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's too late to say sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is too late now to say sorry. Either I literally. It's like looking back on an action. You're like, damn, I can't believe I dated him. Granted, it was just me having a crush, but I'm like, damn, I can't believe I had a crush on you.

[Moses Hacmon]

What's the. What's the Benny Blanco song? How does it feel to be forgotten?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

We could go full circle. Yeah. That is so true.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just bread. Just Trish.

[Trisha Paytas]

Knows more than me.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like it's real. He knows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Benny, Blanca did post a photo of bread in the rain. Oh, still standing bread.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is that the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see. I see what it is. Yeah. He put. It's a video. A tick tock of the bread in the rain to. How does it feel to be forgotten?

[Moses Hacmon]

Got it. And I think it's just a Bieber. Just bread. Justin Bieber.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. So maybe that's why. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses always knows.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. I don't questions like, my mom too. She always on Facebook news, so I'm like. She always sees stuff.

[Oscar]

I'm always like, all right, it's a little different.

[Moses Hacmon]

You see that bridge? You come past that bridge, they built $100 million for the wildlife bridge. 100 million, was that right? 100 million?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

$100 million on that bridge.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

But didn't you spend that money? I love animals to safety, but also, like, probably could have spent less on a bridge.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not that big of a bridge either, I guess, maybe, is it? That.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy.

[Oscar]

I mean, it's cheap for a bridge because I think it's just for the animals to cross. This is the real animal crossing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it is. Animals are truly crossing.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I had to say. I had to throw it in there. She sent it to me on her newsreels.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but Annenberg foundation, they're. They're here in la, you know, Know, they do a lot of good, a lot of different.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's not tax.

[Oscar]

There's lots of. There's like, they make theaters and. And lots of places. You'll see Annenberg everywhere in.

[Moses Hacmon]

Can you imagine having $100 million to just spend on a bridge?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, animals were here before us. So were they.

[Moses Hacmon]

We were talking about this over the weekend. Like, how.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, they were here before Adam and Eve. So he dropped the animals and then what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know if Adam and Eve is the most scientific, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, what was the first animal where. When. How are they dropped here.

[Oscar]

In the water?

[Moses Hacmon]

I was at Noah's Ark, had two of each. So they could meet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Okay. I don't know if that's historically.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, what is your historically accurate, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Evolution and all that.

[Moses Hacmon]

So you think it was, like, a monkey or what? Like, who started evolution?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it was, like, I don't know, a cell of some kind. It became, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God. That's crazy. Okay, Mike White.

[Trisha Paytas]

Got to get that vet over here. Yeah, I'm sure he knows there's a.

[Moses Hacmon]

Lot of people I need to dm. I need to follow up. I have a lot to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And no time. All right, thank you, guys for watching. If you like Axolotls, give this podcast a thumbs up, but only if they're legal in your state. We love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or if you like Minecraft ones.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, Minecraft Axolotl. I'm just like that. Okay, let's do a Minecraft cosplay asap. That's gonna be fun. All right. That's it. All right. Love you guys. Come see me on the Heirs of Trish tour. I'll be in Vegas, New York, and Boston.

[Trisha Paytas]

And click that link tree.

[Moses Hacmon]

Click that link tree. It's a good one. Oscar is just Oscar. Just Chris.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes. On Tik Tok.

[Moses Hacmon]

And Moses is doing tin canned fish reviews everywhere, so we love you guys. We'll see you in the next one. Bye.