Oscar Ruined Mikayla Nogueira's Life + the Downfall of Emma Chamberlain? | Just Trish Ep. 264

Summary

Just Trish – Episode Summary (April 2, 2026)

Podcast: Just Trish
Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-Host: Oscar Gracey
Air Date: April 2, 2026
Episode Theme: Manifesting Good Energy, April Fools Drama, Pop-Culture Gossip & Internet Trends

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Main Theme Overview

This episode of Just Trish is a whirlwind conversation steeped in Trisha’s signature blend of humor, personal insight, and rapid-fire pop culture commentary. Riding the energy of a “lucky girl” April and a full pink moon, Trisha and Oscar shoot through topics ranging from online scandals and reality TV drama to trends in influencer skincare, beauty standards, and viral Internet moments. Throughout, Trisha underscores the importance of energy, both cosmic and personal, while dissecting the latest in celebrity and Internet news.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. April Fools’ Day & Manifesting Good Energy

• Trisha starts by railing against April Fools’ (“Literally just being an a**hole… That’s the day of just being.” - Trisha, 02:06), describing it as a weird, mean-spirited holiday.
• She expresses excitement for April, “lucky girl April,” and discusses how the recent pink moon inspires manifesting, blooming, and nurturing intentions.
• Oscar is somewhat skeptical about rituals but goes along for the ride as Trisha dives into TikTok-fueled energy philosophy, referencing Einstein and Tesla's ideas about “vibrations” and frequency. (“Energy is everything” – paraphrased, 04:38-05:34)

2. Organization, Energy Cleansing, and Personal Growth

• Trisha shares the catharsis of decluttering her home (“When you look back at… crying on the kitchen floor days, I really was in a horde… the world was swallowing me up.” – 08:30), linking the literal cleaning of space to improved mental and spiritual health.

3. Pop Culture Birthdays & Recaps

• The duo riff on April 1st birthdays: Scotty Sire, Liza Koshy, and Logan Paul, with playful shade at Logan (“Hope you have an average day. Just nothing special.” – Oscar, 16:00).
• Recaps on Bachelor Nation and YouTube personalities (Scotty Sire’s knee surgery and brand consistency in influencer personas).

4. Red Carpet Antics & Interview Culture

• Trisha gets into the unpredictability of celebrity press at events like “Euphoria.”
• Oscar provides insider scoop on which celebrities are likely to stop for interviews, and gives impromptu media training:
  • “I can’t say too much, but I will say I had an amazing time with my co-star…” – Oscar’s PR roleplay (27:06).

5. Body Image, Beauty Standards & Bullying

• Discussion on how beauty influencers (like Mikayla Nogueira) are held to impossible standards, face criticism over edited images, and toxic comparisons (31:50–34:45).
• Both Trisha and Oscar condemn the excuse of “moralizing” criticism under the guise of wanting ‘authenticity’ (“You are just being mean and misogynistic.” – Oscar, 32:27), noting it’s similar to “manosphere” toxicity.

6. Mormon Wives Reality TV Drama

• In-depth debate about the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives spats, viral “True Colors” performance, and shifting alliances among cast, with Trisha and Moses attempting their own comical rendition (47:37-49:41).
• Discussion of trends stemming from the show (the “True Colors” meme, business dramas among cast members, i.e. hair extension rivalries).

7. Influencer & Reality TV “Unwell” Winter Games

• Trisha reveals she was asked to host Alex Cooper's Unwell Winter Games but declined due to other commitments (53:22), sparking a discussion on controversy around casting figures like Dakota (Secret Lives of Mormon Wives) and the media’s moral double standards (55:05–57:21).
• Debate over whether it’s fair to platform certain reality TV stars with a history of controversy.

8. Bravo “Summer House” Betrayal Scandal

• Oscar breaks down the Sierra, Amanda & Wes love-triangle drama on Summer House, including the viral photos of Sierra reacting outside Hermès (63:23-66:18).
• Celebrity reactions, including Rihanna unfollowing Amanda and Wes, are highlighted as indicators of public sentiment (67:11-67:23).

9. Bravo Universe & Real Housewives Aspirations

• Trisha and Moses joke about joining Real Housewives, their readiness for “chill drama,” and the mechanics of reality production (69:14–72:24).

10. Kris Jenner as a Global Luck Symbol

• Moses shares the latest viral trend in China—using Kris Jenner’s image as an avatar for luck, especially for job applications and workouts (76:52-78:58).
  • “Her nickname in China is Queen Mother.” – Moses (77:55)
  • Kris Jenner’s own response: “You’re all doing amazing, sweetie.” (78:43)

11. Korean Beauty Trends

• Trisha and Oscar discuss Korean lip blushing, glass skin, and head spa treatments as TikTok-fueled obsessions (83:45–85:37).

12. Celebrity Skincare Brands & Industry Skepticism

• Examination of the backlash around Alex Earle’s skincare line (“Real Actives”) and influencer authenticity (86:04-92:38).
• Trisha’s take: the market is oversaturated, but real personal results matter; she swears by turmeric soap for her own skin.

13. Emma Chamberlain x West Elm Collaboration

• Oscar discusses Emma’s high-end home collection with West Elm (95:15–100:47), reflecting on the way influencers evolve past relatability into luxury spaces.
  • “How many Gen Zers can afford like, this kind of furniture and decor in their apartment?” – Oscar (98:25)

14. Internet Trends & Virality

• Clavicular and Whoa Vicky: Trisha and Oscar analyze the viral streamer, their controversial comments, and the problematic trend of platforming toxic online personalities (104:15–108:49).
  • “With great power comes great responsibility if you’re the number one Kick streamer…” – Trisha (108:36)
• Live-streaming culture: skepticism towards Kick, Twitch, and their reputational issues.

15. Comedy, Parody, and Satire Online

• Oscar brings up a viral Drew Ski sketch parodying Erica Kirk, commentary on boundaries in comedy, and people’s selective outrage (112:58–117:56).

16. AI Content & “Fruit Island” Cancellation Scare

• Breaks down the viral AI-generated “Fruit Island” on TikTok and the threat of cancellation due to mass reporting (119:05–121:50).
• Trisha proposes that if AI gets banned, humans should keep re-enacting its viral stories.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “If anyone pranks me on April Fool’s IRL, we’ll never talk to them again. Never. Ending the podcast. Divorce. No.” – Trisha (01:37)
• “I was in a horde… the world was swallowing me up. And now… there’s space. The kids are running. We’re flourishing.” – Trisha, on the joy of decluttering (08:01)
• “I think that you are just looking for an excuse to moralize, like making fun of someone’s appearance.” – Oscar (32:16)
• “Nobody’s honest in the beauty world. Those campaigns—Maybelline, Kim K—it’s all filters, retouching, digitizing.” – Trisha (32:27)
• (On red carpets) “Media training time: ‘I can’t say too much, but I had an amazing time. I learned from being in her orbit…’” – Oscar’s mock interview prep (27:06)
• “To the person hosting, I don’t know if you were second choice, but maybe. Maybe I was. I don’t know, I know I was asked. Maybe we were gonna cohost it and then you got to host it.” – Trisha, on being invited to Unwell (53:35)
• “I feel like she could have slayed at, like, literally at leisure—that’s her lane. Real Actives is crazy for a skincare name.” – Oscar (93:39)
• “Kris Jenner is Queen Mother in China. Her face brings luck and money.” – Moses (77:55)
• “I think this is another plane hitting your tower. Fruit Love Island creator threatens to shut down…” – Oscar, on possible cancellation of viral AI fruit series (118:57)
• “We were earlier today… We are time maxing.” – Trisha, closing the show (122:51)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• April Fools’ Recap/Ban (00:41–02:33)
• Manifesting, Energy, and Albert Einstein/Nikola Tesla (03:34–05:34)
• Decluttering, Organization, and Life Energy (08:01–08:30)
• Celebrity Birthdays & Brand Consistency (09:51–11:14)
• Red Carpet Interview Tips (26:02–27:23)
• Body Image, Bullying, and Beauty Influencers (29:43–34:45)
• Mormon Wives Reality Drama (41:26–46:46)
• Secret Lives of Mormon Wives “True Colors” Parody (47:37–49:59)
• Unwell Winter Games, Reality TV Double Standards (53:22–58:53)
• Bravo “Summer House” Drama & Celebrity Response (63:23–67:23)
• Real Housewives Aspirations (69:14–73:31)
• Kris Jenner Luck Avatar Trend in China (76:52–78:58)
• Korean Beauty, Lip Blushing (83:45–85:37)
• Celebrity Skincare Line Backlash (86:04–92:38)
• Emma Chamberlain x West Elm (95:15–100:47)
• Clavicular, Whoa Vicky, and Internet Accountability (104:15–108:49)
• Comedy/Parody Line, Drew Ski & Matt Rife (112:58–118:25)
• AI “Fruit Island” Censorship Scare (119:05–121:50)

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Conclusion: Energy Is Everything

Trisha closes the episode with positive vibes rooted in her faith in April’s luck, the cosmic power of the pink moon, and a renewed commitment to “energy is everything.” While pop-culture news sometimes spirals into drama or toxicity, she and Oscar find ways to highlight positivity, growth, and staying authentic in an ever-chaotic Internet age.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

I think that you are just looking for an excuse to moralize, like making fun of someone's appearance.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if you were second choice, but maybe. Maybe I was. I don't know. I know I was asked. Maybe we were gonna co host it and then you got to host it. I'm sure whoever got it is funny. Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all the. Hello, happy April. Welcome to the Gestures podcast. It's lucky girl April. I wish all of you great luck. We just had our pink moon last night, so I'm hoping you're blooming into everything that you were meant to be, and that's what's we're here to bloom and nurture and water and really feel that good energy. Thank God April 1st is over.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, we haven't survived it as of right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I'm manifesting it because if anyone worse than a fart. If anyone pranks me on April Fool's irl, we'll never talk to them again. Never ending the podcast divorce. No. If there is a April Fool's prank, absolutely not. I hate April Fools with a passion. I already woke up this morning and was fooled five times. Cat's eye joining six on Broadway. I was like, oh, my God. So keeping up with the paytas premiere on Paramount Plus May 5th.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I love that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was kind of gagged. I was like, oh, my God. Like, did something leaked? Is something like. No, I hate. Hate all of it. Don't want any of it. I was gonna do a boycott, but I was like, no, I still want to pose. But y' all who celebrate April Fools are just. It's weird. It's a weird holiday. I don't get. It's literally just being an hole. That's the day of just being. It's David Oberg, you know, just like, that's his favorite. Why he's like, no, it's April Fools. Just Kidding like crazy. It's just. It's just the worst.

[Oscar Gracie]

You think Natalie gets the day off for April Fools Day?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you're working today, right, Right. No, she's. She's also dubious, but I'll save that for my book. Crying on the Kitchen Floor. Memoir, pre order now she's leading it. She's the leading. The fool of April Fools. All entertainment purposes only. But I do love April and I do love that April 1st did bring a full pink moon, a new moon, which I love. And then we have the flower moon on May 1st. You into moons, phases of the moon?

[Oscar Gracie]

Sure, why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you do any like rituals, like a little manifesting or releasing perhaps?

[Oscar Gracie]

No. I know you and Joey Graceffa get into that tea. I personally have never. But I respect it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But why haven't you. You've been. Yeah, you were with Joey, me, the greats of YouTube, if you will.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah, that is true.

[Trisha Paytas]

All the people you worked for at Strawberry 17. Joey.

[Oscar Gracie]

Y' all do love the movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we love. Yeah, there's something to it, I think.

[Oscar Gracie]

I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you believe in energy? Are you an energy person?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like energy drinks? Yeah, I believe in that for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

So there, there is energy there. You don't ever feel like, oh, there's good energy or you put out energy you want. Like I want to make money, so this is my money energy. I want to feel good, so I'm putting out good energy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like no, I don't, I don't. I believe in vibes. Like I'm a vibe receiver for sure. The vibration vibes are little one notes. Like I'm always kind of just putting the same kind of energy out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is what?

[Oscar Gracie]

A little self deprecating, A little pessimistic. A touch of optimism too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we should just switch that all to optimism. I didn't know that. Yeah, we need to take away that energy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Cynicism.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, all bad. You gotta do. Optimism's good. You put out smart energy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Smart energy. Put out healthy energy. Cause you're always working out and you know, taking care of yourself.

[Moses]

And vibe is the new way of saying energy. Well, some people, I kind of don't want to be too new age, but

[Trisha Paytas]

why I bring this up is because I am on the side of TikTok that's giving me like full. Are they philosophers or scientists, if you will. Nikola Tesla for instance. Well, actually, first one I saw was Albert Einstein who said that if you like, energy is like the secret of the world. Like, you know, Nikola Tesla too said, I quoted Them, but I can't quote them right now because they're on my phone. But Nikola Tesla, too, also said, the secrets of the universe is energy, vibration and freedom, frequency. He didn't say, that's Nikola Tesla. That's Albert Einstein being like, energy is everything. Like, if you're just trying to figure out the world, it's all about energy. Like that. There was other philosophers on there, too, that I can't remember, but there was. Everyone was just saying the exact same thing. And these are, like, scientists, right? So if you don't believe in, like, the God, the spirituality of it all, and you're believing, you know, Albert Einstein, I suppose, is like the God to people who believe in, like, Big Bang. Yeah, right. Listen to that. That's also energy and frequency. And they all say that. Did you know this? Did they all say the same thing? And that's what it is. So you got to vibrate and you got to be on a high frequency in, like, attract. I really do believe it.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's all about vibrations. Get those rollers toys buzzing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stop. Okay. Promo. I thought you're sure. I have. I'm very chatty today, by the way. I don't know what it is. I think it's. Yesterday was day two of my menstrual cycle, and this period has gotten me, like, by a choke hold where I literally was, like, door dashing, like, five meals yesterday. It was, like, a lot. I was being moody, I was being cranky. But I also, like, just felt very, like, not talkative. So today I feel very, like, you know, I got glam. So I feel like, oh, I'm talkative. I'm like, I have so much good energy today, and it's like a new month. And I was looking. Speaking of doordash, yesterday I doordashed AMC cookies. Did you? Which I thought, oh, they sent you that? And you're like, no, no.

[Oscar Gracie]

This is a shirt that I saw at the amc and when we were in line for our large soda at the AMC one day, I was like, wow, I love that shirt. I think it's so fun. And then Darian got it for me for Christmas.

[Trisha Paytas]

He paid for it.

[Oscar Gracie]

He paid for it. Cold hard apple pay just with the electronic.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should send it to you. AMC sends so much promo to. Not to me. I've never gotten AMZ promo. I would love AMC promo.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like we're the biggest advocates.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

The amc.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love amc.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's like. But yet we're ignored. That is devastating.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Rico's cheese. Did Send me their cheese. They did make it, but. But the MC itself, I agree because I doordashed. Have you ever had their little chocolate chip cookies?

[Oscar Gracie]

No. You told me about them, but I've never had them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I doordashed them last night and they were so warm and they taste like. You know what they taste like? They taste like those nestle cookie doughs that you stick in the oven. But like, I'm too lazy to even do that sometimes, so I just love having it. And it came warm. You know how far it is? It's like it's Thousand Oaks, which is like, you know, 15 minutes from our house. I came here warm, especially at the movies. I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

And I'm there about like two to three times.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I gotta try the cookies.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm there four times, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Mini mini, 24 chocolate chip cookies. You like chocolate chip cookies?

[Oscar Gracie]

I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank God Moses is not a cookie person. And I'm always just like, I love cookies. I know. I can't get over the gag that you just don't love a cookie like that, but I love a cookie. Oh, you did have the crumble thin cookie the day I got it. You did like that little chocolate one. It's a little crispy.

[Moses]

Yeah. Instead of heavy on the chocolate. I like it. Those were good. Those were good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those were good. Yeah, the thin crispy ones. But anyways, there's just a lot of goodness to be having. Then I saw your AM shirt and it's AMC shirt. And I was like, oh, I love doordashing amc. I would like to go more often, but we don't really have the time. But I love that you can doordash AMC and only on doordash. Not postmates, not sponsored. But you can't. You can't post me at AMC. You can DoorDash it only. So there's that. What else? There's been so much is happening since last time I saw you in 24 hours. You know, house has been organized, energy has been cleaned.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, that must have something to do with it too, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel it. I feel once things get like out of the house like you saw, we should have taken a picture. Like, we had bags. We had like 20 bags of like donations. Trash poshmark. Like probably like 20 bags of each. I know. We gotta call the trash. People are coming today. If you wondered why there was trash out there, they're coming today. But there was. It just feels light. Doesn't it feel lighter to you?

[Moses]

There's space.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. To breathe, to running.

[Oscar Gracie]

That energy for sure. I do believe in that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's what was holding me back. When you look back at. No, not trying to promote, but crying on the kitchen floor days, like I really was in a horde. Like you didn't see beyond. I wish I should have turned the camera around at some point. I think at some point I did. When I moved, just boxes engulfing me. Like towards the end, could not step foot into my bedroom anywhere. Like things were just. Closets were falling and breaking. Things were just like engulfing me. Like literally swallowing me up. And I think that's what the world was doing. I think it was swallowing me up. And now that we've. We're cleansing and getting rid of things in the house, just the space is just, wow, we're breathing, we're flourishing. The kids are running. Like, it's just like there's just. I mean, our house is huge. And I thought we had. I thought we needed to upgrade. I thought we needed to get a bigger space. But in reality we just needed to clear the space that we were already in. And it's a beautiful thing. And shout out. I'm not even getting a discount, okay. I'm paying full price because she deserves it. I'm ani ae organized. She is a one woman show. She sometimes bring like her cousin or sister, like if you want. Or she'll just come by herself, which I love. I love it. Because you know who's coming into your house. You trust her. I love her and it's great. It feels so good to be organized. So we're just. We're gonna keep organizing our little life away. Clear that space, you know, clear it. And y', all. I think it really does just make everything better. And life is good. Minus April Fool's Day, but everything else, life is good. You know who popped up on my April Fool's feed? Born on April Fool's Day?

[Oscar Gracie]

Nick Vile.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, triggered. Is he bored on April Fools?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know. But it gives me that vibe that he would be born on April Fools.

[Trisha Paytas]

Close. Scotty Sire is born on April 1. We haven't talked about him in a while.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that crazy? He just popped up and I was like, whoa. And his. The first exact. That pops up is like. And I haven't. We haven't talked about him, right. In like two years. Probably since Kristen was on here. Kristen McAtee. You know, and I popped up and I was like. And the first thing he said was like, my girlfriend spends money. Like I am still rich or something. And I was like, oh, this is, like, so weird. He likes. I don't know. He can't walk. He tried to put, like, pressure on his knee, and he couldn't walk.

[Oscar Gracie]

Surgery.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you know. Oh, okay. Updated.

[Oscar Gracie]

Keeping up to date. Scotty's higher grade is run by me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, when did you see this? I did. I was so confused because he used to be, like, such an athletic, like, working out, and, like, he tried to, like, stand on his knee. And I was like, what happened?

[Oscar Gracie]

I forget what happened. Exactly. He did have a knee injury. He did have surgery. I still follow him and I still see his stories. Oh, he did have a really intense knee surgery. And they gave him, like, a crazy concoction of pills for his knee surgery, too. He's really going through it. Poor thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. So he's a little unhinged.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, he was really going through it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he still sad?

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, I feel like probably now more than ever, because, you know, he's very active, but he hasn't been able to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's good. It's back into his brand because, you know, when you brand yourself as one thing, you gotta keep with that brand. People don't want to see you happy once you're, you know, sad. Wasn't that his whole thing?

[Oscar Gracie]

Meanwhile, who has a book called Crying in the Kitchen Floor?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you know, it's a memoir. It's a look back. It's an insult inspiration. Now, if he came out with a book that's like, I was sad, but not anymore. You know what I mean? Or just be like, right, yeah. You know, Now I'm crying on the kitchen floor because happy tears. Now I'm about to do my music video for crying on the kitchen floor for my song called Crying on the Kitchen Floor. And we're bringing everyone back to the kitchen floor. We're bringing my kids with me, and we're gonna make it happy. We're gonna be crying tears of happiness. We're gonna close out that energy. Yes. We're gonna bring good energy to that kitchen floor. Whoever's in it. Nobody's in it because the letter was returned to me, so nobody's living there. But we're still finding a way to do it. If not, we're gonna just rebuild the whole set and make it look like it. But we're still finding a way. We I. To the address of my old kitchen floor, and that address was returned. Do you think they returned it? Or you think the mailbox did it like, you think? Like, the people did? It was like, Refuse or you think, like, mail, people brought it back.

[Moses]

Yeah. I don't know how it works. Somebody has to refuse it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a person.

[Moses]

Tell them. Yeah, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

It would take a while. It was like a month. Like, where did it go?

[Moses]

Yeah. So maybe it sat there for a month and then they sent everything back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nobody's there. That'd be so sad. What if, like, no one ever rented it after me?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's. I didn't want to say, but that's kind of what it's giving, you know, like, some hotels don't have a 13th floor because of bad luck. It's giving that. But, like, you just, like, haven't clear.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? Maybe we should just build. I think we're building a set. So much more expensive, though. I'd rather go to it. But you're right. You're right. But I could go in there as some sage and clear it, because we're all about clear energy today. And I just love. I love that you dress so cute. You look like a. You look like a Jonathan Bailey or something. You look so cool.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was just like, let me put on a big shirt and a hat that.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's giving fitted. It's giving muscle. It's giving also. Someone got me. They're like, jonathan Bailey is joining Heated rivalry, too. And I was like, oh, my gosh.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, that was April Fool.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm assuming. I think it's real. I'm assuming.

[Oscar Gracie]

I didn't hear it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then you don't know what's real, right? You would know. Because I had heard last night before April Fools that Moulin Rouge, Meg the Stallion was like, they had a replacer mid show. And that was March 31st. But then this morning, it was like, mega salon rush the hospital. Everyone's like, it's an April Fool's joke. I'm like, would they April Fools about someone being rushed to a hospital? No, probably not. But how do you know what's real news?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think you got to check the source, girl, because. Check your sources.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, like I said, like, last night at like, 8pm Pacific Standard Time, so in New York, it was like, whatever. They're like, oh, they like, stop. Moulin Rouge. Like, we were kind of scared. We don't know what's going on. And then someone replaced Meg the Stallion. So I was like, oh, my God, what happened? And then this morning is when it came out that she was Russia Hospital, but I'm like, is that real or is that April Fools?

[Oscar Gracie]

That. Yeah, that's real news.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is real.

[Oscar Gracie]

Real news? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You verified or you just know?

[Moses]

I heard about it yesterday too.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it was yesterday because I saw the news today. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Last night.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that is real.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she missed go. Missed the show last night. And then there was a report, a journalist in the audience. I think I forgot which outlet they worked for, but they reported at first that Sally missed it. And then someone from her team also tweeted like that she had to go to the hospital. And then like People magazine confirmed she's missing performances today too because she's still in the hospital.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that was real news.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, real news.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just think like it's a bad day for news outlets and journalists because, like, how are you gonna. How do you know? Like, are you guys posting? Are you guys posting stuff? Like how do you know if it's real or not?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think we're allowed to do April Fool's prank.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? I swear, every company, every company is doing well.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like is it. It's like Doritos doing like ketchup.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

But it's not like, you know, CNN doing April Fools.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? You might. They might. I know. You just never know. I posted one just being like, I love Moses and I'm like, oh, they get an April Fool's joke. Like, you know what I mean? Like you just don't know. And I'm like, I don't want to not not post because of the stupid holiday. I hate it so much. But Happy birthday, Sky, Liza, Koshy and Kristen. Or someone. Like there's three birthdays in one. I think maybe Kristen.

[Oscar Gracie]

Should I look on famous birthdays and see who's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I definitely know Liza. Or maybe she's March 31st.

[Oscar Gracie]

The jump scare. Logan Paul.

[Trisha Paytas]

April 1st.

[Oscar Gracie]

No Logan Paul, Scotty Sire.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he made the top.

[Oscar Gracie]

Top. He's number four. I don't know who Randy Orton is. Number two, he's a wrestler. Asa Butterfield. Number three, he's an actor. Oh, and Scotty Sire.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

Number four, he's above Debbie Reynolds.

[Trisha Paytas]

W. That's really good.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't. Oh, Susan Boyle. She's all the way down at 17.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she's been a while for her

[Oscar Gracie]

moment, but still she's an icon.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's an icon.

[Oscar Gracie]

She should be up cuz this one Tik Tocker doesn't even have a photo. Izzy has no glizzy. She's above Susan Bo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what is that the only April 1st? They must have birthdays around that time. Cuz I remember going to a boat one year celebrating like Liza Scotty and like somebody else. Maybe Kristen has like a march or something. I remember, like celebrating everybody at once. I'm like, wow, they all have the same birthday. That's crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. It's just Logan and Scotty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Officially on April 1st, but happy birthday, Scotty.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Are we. I guess we're up in the air about Logan.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Hope you have a average day. Just nothing special.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Ordinary, good energy, but just. We could just be like, you know, happy birthday.

[Oscar Gracie]

I could have said a bad day and I wanted to, oh, wow, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, have a happy birthday. From afar, from a distance, we don't see support, but we wish you a good day. Who are we to say have a bad day? We're not Einstein or Nikola Tesla and they're saying energy is everything. And that's what I'm gonna go by. I'm gonna go by science and God. Just double my chances. Whoever's right, I'm gonna just kind of go with wherever it's gonna go. You know what I mean? We'll see where it's at. But how are you? How's everything? How's life in the past 36 hours? You good?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's all still. It's still chaotic. It's still chaotic. But you know, what is it chaotic?

[Trisha Paytas]

Grooving chaotic in a good way. Busy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Things are going great for you. I mean, I don't know everything about your life, but what you share with me, I feel like it's going really great.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Decent and better than like a year and a half ago.

[Oscar Gracie]

Last year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think I'm in a transitional phase, if you will. There's some things in the. In the works that have to be transitioned. Okay. New moon identity, but sexual identity.

[Trisha Paytas]

The new moon made the flower moon. May 1, it'll be fully bloomed. Not okay. Not happy post trans Day availability. Two days later, it was March 31, but happy. I almost missed it yesterday. That's like my favorite holiday. And I was like, damn, I missed. I almost missed saying, oh, by the way, we donated to the mbjc. Finally. I like able to calculate our February. Our no hate photos sold $4,905. We rounded up to $5,000 to the National Black Justice Coalition. So shout out and all the work that they're doing with LGBTQ+SGL Black trans lives. We love you and thank you guys so much. Those have been shipped out. Those are the final, final ones. They are done and I. I paused the. The headshot tier for now. I'm Trying to put you give you guys some secrets on there for those who still are a patron over there. You guys can also do your membership lower if you want to. But I paused them because I was like, oh, I can't find time to sign. And then they were like, oh, do you want to sign some books? And I was like, well, you know what? I paused the headshot. So there's going to be some signed copies of my books coming out limited because they were saying a crazy number. And I was like, I can't sign that many. But there is going to be. I'm going to sign a bunch of books and those will be there. So for those asking, those will also be coming. All right, well.

[Oscar Gracie]

And good on you for not doing the little stamp that some of the pop girls be doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, who did it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Allegedly.

[Oscar Gracie]

I heard on via Twitter, unverified, just rumored that I think Tate McCray did it because some of the stamps were like, it was like half off or like it was cut off. And like it was cut off. Weird. On some.

[Trisha Paytas]

No quality control.

[Oscar Gracie]

But a lot of people do them. A lot of people just do a stamp, you know, so at least everyone knows yours are authentic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. I guess there is a difference between a signed copy and like a hand signed copy. Because I guess. I guess she probably signed it and then they just like copied it. So I guess in theory it's her signature.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She just didn't touch it. I'm going to be touching all things I was even telling about. I don't know if I'm gonna have, because when I was hearing, like, the number, I was like, I don't know if we have time, but, you know, we're gonna make the time. We're gonna make the time. Because how many times you can do a memoir in your life? Maybe twice. Maybe one more. When I'm like 70. I was thinking about that now. Like, now starts my second memoir. Like, now begins that and it's like, wow, where's it gonna go in 20, 30 years? Like maybe 20 years? Every 20 years I'll do a memoir. It's like, what happens in the next 20 years? It starts today.

[Oscar Gracie]

The rest is still unwritten.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, okay. Natasha Bedingfield. I love that. It is. Did no one do a memoir called the Rest is Still Unwritten from the Hills. That would be so good. Or her. Natasha Benningfield. Did she ever do that? That's so smart.

[Oscar Gracie]

You really should.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good. That's a good title.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I like that. No One did it. No. Memoirs from Laguna Beach? The Hills?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think so. I think Lauren Conrad just stuck to fiction and then fashion.

[Trisha Paytas]

Heidi and Spencer never did one. Like, I feel like they're the first that would get a book deal or would take a book deal.

[Oscar Gracie]

Why do I feel like Spencer Pratt did a book at some point?

[Trisha Paytas]

I just can't picture, like, the COVID Is it just his face?

[Oscar Gracie]

The guy you love to hate. Confessions from a reality TV Villain.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he did one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Recently. Just this past year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, probably like the resurgence of like

[Oscar Gracie]

January came out out this year. Yeah. January 2026.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Did you. Well, how do we know. How do people know when things do well? Be like, this is the best selling book. And I was like, well, how do you know? Or how do you know if it does poorly?

[Oscar Gracie]

I know T. Because it's not like albums or the singles, I guess, where, like, you like, they release the streaming numbers or like the album sold or whatever. Like on the Billboard charts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know what. I guess the New York Times bestseller list. But do they even say, like, how many.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's pretty again, I'm not gonna jinx it. But it's pretty, like, minimal. A lot of people can achieve it because it's like, I think, you know, you do. You do the book signings and stuff to get it. I think it's pretty minimal. So it's not even like a crazy number. But like, for instance, like Jennet McCurdy, like, obviously her book is huge and it's getting turned T shirt. Like, how do people know?

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess. Or they just say how much time it spends on the list. Like, if it's number one in multiple weeks, maybe. Right. Then it must be. It must be selling.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right, right. That's a good. Yeah, like Ticket master can just go on and be like, look at all these empty seats.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Flop.

[Trisha Paytas]

They need to not do that. People in general that are so mean and just in general, like, whatever, you know, it's like people go on there, like, wow. And it'll be like stadiums, right? Like, it'll be like, I don't know, whatever. Your favorite band playing a stadium. And they'll be like, wow, no seats. But it's like, meanwhile they sold like 30, 000 of like 50,000. I'm like, that seems like a lot of. Seems like a lot of tickets sold.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's okay to flop too. From the girls from Flop Cast will tell you, like, it's. It's fine to be Tropica. The Kaya Asylum. Man, that Australian reporter really got me. I see his clips everywhere on Twitter about the Kaya Asylum. I had no idea what I was saying. But you know what? I kind of ate. Honestly, I forgot the whole thing because that was the very last one. We talked about this last time. So I don't need to recap up. He was at the very end. That's the one. I was like, oh, he hadn't talked. I know. Like, oh, my God, my feet were hurting. My thing. And I was just like, okay. He was nice, but those questions. And the people were saying that too. Those questions are diabolical. Being like, you know, he's like, B.B. rex is in the kaism. Who else should be? I was like, oh, my gosh. Okay, these. And I was like, she shouldn't be in there. And he really. He really got me with some of those. He was wild. Who was he? Where is he from? I don't know. I see his clips all the time.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think he's an Australian. Like, I guess the equivalent would be, like an Australian Ryan Seacrest vibe, where he has, like, a radio show. He's like a radio.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he's. He's probably big over there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because he also was like, ciao, Rome. She's great until she's mean to her fans. I was like, well, she's playing. And he's like, we were the ones filming. I was like, well, you are the wrong then. Yeah. I was like, these people over there filming me. You were the ones doing it. You were. You were baiting her. I tried my best to clock them where I can, but that's hard. It's very.

[Oscar Gracie]

You held up in that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was. By the end of it, I was just very much like, I don't know. I'm really bad at interviews. Next red carpet to my PR person. I can't do that many interviews because I think I was over. Over exertion of. Loved it. I felt very cool afterwards.

[Moses]

I didn't know how uncomfortable your shoes were because you don't know. You know, she gives such a good show. So it felt like you were, I

[Trisha Paytas]

don't know, doing great.

[Oscar Gracie]

Next one is soon.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know we have euphoria. I was thinking about that, too. And I have big old heels for that. But I'm like, maybe I'll bring some flats. We talked about that. Maybe in, like, a little bag. We'll bring some flats or something. Because I need to. I don't think I'm making the rounds on the carpet at Euphoria. I'm sure they're gonna.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think you will be. I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Jacob Elordi might be doing it.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I'm telling. Like, I. Like, I was talking to my manager about it. They're like, who do you think will actually talk? And I'm like, Trisha Paytas, maybe Vinnie Hacker. I don't think. I don't even. I don't think Rosalia will stop to us. I don't think like a Balordy. Maybe Sydney Sweeney, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, the stars are gonna talk to you. You guys.

[Oscar Gracie]

You guys are like number two skips Press. Oh, like for Wuthering Heights. He didn't even do interview. Like, they selected specifically outlets they thought were cool for Jacob Elordi.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like, what was cool? What's a cool outlet?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's like the, like random websites. Not random, but, like, more angled towards, like, film. Like screener.com or something. Yeah, it's like just the ones that are like, more filmy, if that makes sense. So I don't think we'll get Zendaya. I don't think Jacob Elordi will. Maybe Hunter Schaefer, if she's feeling up to it. I think Maude Apatow. I think Maude. Sydney Sweeney usually will stop for a little chit chat. Usually Alexa Demi. I don't think. She doesn't really do interviews that often.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm surprised.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I think you might be.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm there.

[Oscar Gracie]

You might be the only one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because you actually guys are first. I was thinking Access Hollywood was rip. They were second, but at was the first one they got. Jonathan Bailey got everyone at Wicked. So they're actually the first.

[Oscar Gracie]

First.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm surprised. Jacob. Lordy. I want to get him on this podcast. I think he'll do it. Should I ask him?

[Oscar Gracie]

He should just tell everyone. Ask every single person while you're there.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know me, I'll never.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'll hide.

[Moses]

I'm gonna be the one. I'll give that. I'll have little business cards. Like, you are invited.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's actually a good. That's like Baz, remember he invited us to his, like, secret club in New York and he had a business card. He's like, here's how you get in. And I was like, oh, I love this. That's actually a good idea. Yeah. I would wait if I saw anybody in that on the carpet. I literally. I would hide. Even the person I did a scene with. I'd probably be like, I'm gonna hide because why am I there? But I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna show up and I'm, I'm excited about it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, you gotta do the rounds.

[Trisha Paytas]

But again, I don't have a PR person to pull me over. Like, you need someone to be like, oh, this person's here to talk. This person. Like, no one's gonna be like Trisha, unless it's Denny who's back there.

[Oscar Gracie]

But Moses just did it. That was like the warm up. So now you're ready to do it for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you go up to them or they went up to you?

[Moses]

Everyone wanted to talk to you. They came up to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I don't think they're doing that euphoria.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think they will because like I said, they're going to. They paid to have a cameraman there, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

They need something, they need to get

[Oscar Gracie]

some kind of material. And I fear most of them will not be chatting.

[Trisha Paytas]

The problem is, is like in other interviews that I filmed or I did like one or two where they want me to talk about the show. It's like, I don't know what's going to air because I have a feeling like a lot will be cut just for time. I was there for, you know, for a certain amount of time and I'm, I have a feeling I'm in such a small part of it and I don't know what part they would possibly keep. So I don't even know how to describe what I did. So people are like, what's it? What was it like? And I was like, well, I don't even know what I can say because I don't know what's gonna air.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm sure they'll tell you when you get to the carpet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Moses]

But also you, you just have to, you know. Media training.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, I don't have that as we know.

[Moses]

How do you talk about it without talking about it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I can't say too much, but I will say I had an amazing time with my co star. I learned so much just being on set and experiencing, you know, such high established directors and actors and even everyone behind the scenes. I just had such an incredible experience.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just being in the same environment as Emmy award winner Zendaya. How could you not just learn so much from being in her orbit? It truly was an incredible experience that I will never forget for the rest of my career.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was a great, great answer. Okay, I'm gonna use it. Watch me use it. ET, get ready. Is it Danny? Do you know if it's Danny gonna be there?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it will be Denny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like with him I have like a rapport. So I could just go up and be like, hey, ready for that interview? If we're not there too early. Last time we were there before Denny even set up. We were there. Wicked. We were there right and early. Nobody was there. Yeah. I don't know where I'm gonna go. I don't know if I'm at the beginning. Usually they do a run of the influencers through and then usually, like, the main cast. I'm assuming I'm not in the main cast, but happy to be anywhere. Honestly, I'm happy to be there.

[Moses]

I will go twice.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do a little circles. Circle twice. Yeah. I have a music video that day too. It's booked and busy, so I'll be coming straight from the music video. It'll be. Yeah, it premieres soon. When does it premiere?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it'll be. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, speaking of interviews, though, did you see Michaela's latest tick tock?

[Trisha Paytas]

Which Michaela? Mormon Wives or Michaela? No, I love her.

[Oscar Gracie]

Why do I feel so bad? She had to make a tick tock addressing how she looked in the ET Hannah Montana interview. Like, I think she just posted it yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I did. I did see it. Yes. She ate.

[Oscar Gracie]

She. I'm like, well, I loved it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you love it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I just. I feel the way that I'm responsible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what do you mean? Did you tell her? What'd you say?

[Oscar Gracie]

The way that, like, I called them up and I was like, do not leave this carpet without talking to Michaela Niguera.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see. Right. Because she doesn't do interviews. Then she did the one with ET that's the one where people were, like, comparing her and being. By the way, my biggest gripe with that is, like, everybody posts themselves in the most flattering light angle, skinny filter. Like, what? Everybody does it? Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's why I'm like, why do you want me to be ugly so bad? Like, of course. Okay, I'm going to talk for myself. I feel like I have one good angle and, like, obviously, if I post my own, like, photo, whatever. Like, like, I want to look as good as I can. Why do you want me to be ugly so bad? It's like, oh, you face tuned it well. Yeah. Because I want to look as good as possible. Like, why am I. Why do you want me to be ugly so bad? And it. I want to go to your Instagram and they're all private. Everyone who leaves me these little comments about tunes and filters, blah, blah, blah, blah. I doubt on your profile you're posting you at your worst. Like, why do you. Why do I need to be at my worst? You go do that if you want to.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying is like, people are like, right? Like, if I'm like sitting from the side and like this, like, of course, like, I'm gonna look like when we were in Hawaii, someone got me from like the back, like, waddling through the beach, and I'm like, well, why would I post that? Why would I post that? If you want to post it, okay, whatever. Yeah, but it's like, no, I'm gonna post me just being snatched, sucking in, like, just as. But, you know, whatever. As much as you can. Like, people are so weird for that. And it's like carpets always have different lighting. Especially when you go close to the reporter. Like, you know, yeah, she has beauty light. She's a beauty group. Like, look at this light right now. Like, it's amazing. But catch me on what is like a podcast had really horrible lighting recently. There's O. Wilson's podcast, that Soul Boom. Oh, my. I look like I'm 50 years old because he had zero lighting. So it's like, it's all about. Of course, everything's all about lighting and filter. And of course she's gonna look as much as she can on her own. Tick tock. Like, what? What do you mean? And she looked fine. She looked. Did she look a little different? Maybe, but not drastically.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's shot so different. Like, our, like the ET cameras, they shoot for broadcast, so they're going in and out there. It's just. It's a little crazy. So that's already working against you. Second, like you said, the lighting, like, I. I didn't edit this one, Mikayla. I would have had your back and I would have, like, lit you nicely, color corrected, sharpened it. Yeah, you would have been glowing with me. I apologize, but I was off the clock and like, I always have to, like, fix it a little bit because, like, the lighting is like, the coloring is really flat on these cameras. Like, it's just shot really different.

[Trisha Paytas]

That part, the coloring was flat on the makeup and it's like, like, of course, yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

And also, like, it's fed through. It's fed in real time through, like, this little device that like, basically feeds it into, like, our computer system so it comes out like a lower quality versus, like, when they get back and they take the SD card and then they like, up upload the footage. So it's also, like a lower resolution. So that's like, you're not getting, like, the dimensions. So there's just a lot of working against.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her body was still so tea. Like, my biggest thing is I'm gonna be, like, doing the best skinny angles as possible. She's still look tiny. She looked teeny tiny. Like, okay, her makeup was a little flatter, but we just explained why, like, people are so weird. She still looked good. People are just left to be me.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I think with her too. And people are using the excuse, get your tomatoes ready. I know I'm going to get booed and that's okay. But people are using the excuse because she's a beauty influencer, that she should be, like, real about her makeup and her looks or whatever. I think that you are just looking for an excuse to moralize, like, making fun of someone's appearance. Because if you, if you don't, if you make fun of her without the little disclaimer, oh, like, let's just bully this girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

Then you're a bad person. But if you excuse your own bullying for saying, oh, she's a beauty influencer, she's supposed to be honest about the way she looks. Like, what do you mean? Like, you are just being mean and misogynistic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. No one in the beauty world is honest. Those campaigns with Maybelline, like, those are all, you know, they're all. They not only using Maybelline mascara, they're using lashes, they're using this. They're digitizing all stuff. Kim K. Is another great example. Like, you know, they're. They're the influencers of the world. It's like, if you go on to Getty at the Vanity Fair party in Zoom in, her skin is like, not perfect, whatever. But is she posting the perfect ones that glam the retouch? Of course. Because, like, that's what social media is. That's what people are doing. Like, it's so crazy for people and they still look good. It's not like they look like a completely different person. Like, it's just like, busted. All the stuff like that. They still look good. But people are like, you said, they do use it. The guys, they also know it's going to get to her because obviously Michaela responds to all these comments, which I told you girls so many times, stop responding, responding. Because, like, her response, she ate. I loved it. I get why she felt like she had to. She was just like, what do you think of me? Is none of my business. And that is so true. So, like, don't respond because they'll keep doing it. That's how I thought as soon as I stopped being like, oh, my God, people are saying I'm fat and I hate this so much. And so people would just continue to dig at my weight, knowing that it would, like, get to me. The minute I stop, people just, like, stop leaving those comments. You know what I mean? Like, I rarely get, you're fat and I'm fatter than ever. And, like, I never see those comments anymore because, I don't know, I guess maybe I'm just. I've aged out. People are like, well, she's gone. Whatever. We don't need a bully. Or anymore, she's, you know, whatever. Whatever the case is, they just stop because it doesn't. I don't respond to it. So just don't. Don't respond, girl. Because it's like, yeah. And it just, you know, people know, like, she did that one where she. I know I'm ugly. And she, like, was crying also. So then people, you know, her fans will support her, of course. But then the people who don't like you will find more excuses to be mean about the way you look. And like, Oscar said, like, go to their profile. It's probably private. They're probably uglier. They're probably fatter. They're probably not even real. It's probably a picture of a question mark or something. You know what I mean? Like, there's nothing. Nothing. There's no. Why are you taking random people online? And because the people who are calling you, like, ugly, like, it's never coming from, like, a place of, like, niceness. Like, I never see, like, videos. It's usually comments. I never see a video on Tick Tock being like, wow, Michaela looks so ugly here. Like, there's never a spill sash or Hayden or anybody, like, saying she looks ugly on the red carpet. You know what I mean? Like, it's. It's so.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's also like, it's no different from, like, the toxic, like, manosphere that posts a photo of, like, like, a gorgeous model. Like a Sydney Sweeney without makeup. And then with makeup. And then be like, look how deceptive and disgusting women are. Like, they have to have makeup and this is what they really look like. You are, like, the woke version of it. Like, you know, you're trying to make it woke, but, like, it's still the equivalent.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're exactly right. It is so true. They'll find the most beautiful, like, woman. They'll be like, oh, look at the body hair. On her back and it's just like this like little microscopic hair. I'm like, you are so weird for that. You're right. That is the exact same thing. Different fonts, same energy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And there's plenty of like stuff to clock Michael on when it comes to the over consumption and the eyelashes, whatever. But like you bottom of the barrel to just like make fun of the way, like be serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, you can like critique the outfit if you don't like the wig, whatever. But to be like, I mean I've seen some of these. I won't repeat them obviously, but like, yeah, the comparisons and stuff is probably not, not necessary.

[Oscar Gracie]

And her Getty images look good. Like, oh, I didn't even clock them.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do.

[Oscar Gracie]

She looks completely fine. And like Getty. It's just like the angle. Getty will get you the lighting of this one interview, you know. But she looks fine everywhere else. Like she looks like her. So I don't. People are doing too much.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Getty images do get you too. Tana has said that too. She's like, do not check the Getty images. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's scares when the girls are like, check the Getty. I look good. Never check my Getty.

[Moses]

Never.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never look good. But you know, I'm always reposting, I'm always posting. Cause I got the Getty. But I, I always look humongous. I look, you know, I do look. I do look crazy. But it's fine. Sometimes you really think you eat and then you're like, but it's fine. Honestly, I actually don't even care. Like, I say that I like to be whatever, to be funny, but I actually like don't care. And I post them because I don't care. I'm like, whatever, I think I look good. I do think I look good. But sometimes you're just like, yeah, that was kind of wild. That's fine. Who cares? Nothing. It's like really real anyways. To quote Jim Carrey, it's all just. And it was real.

[Moses]

You saw when Kim Kardashian was coming out of Walmart, there was a video of her and there's a person with the spotlight that is just constantly on her face, you know, so no matter what picture anyone takes at any given moment, she has that watch on her face.

[Trisha Paytas]

We saw that with Kylie at the moment too. She had. Which is everything, honestly. Michaela girl.

[Moses]

So they're like, you know, people trying to even control the uncontrollable because people are.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why they're probably like, all right, let's get it. Because they do look like that, right? When you put a light, like I look like what you're seeing. There's no filter on this. I mean, I mean I'm, I'm blown out. I do look like this. But I also look crazy in bad lighting too. Like if you have like under light lighting, it looks horrible over a bad angle. Like, I mean, people. Yeah, poor Michaela. She does get it. But I do think because she is so like vulnerable and puts her vulnerability out there being like. Because she'll clap back and be like, I don't care what you think of me. When clearly obviously you do. And it's gets, it gets. But it gets to anyone.

[Moses]

So girl, it gets to everybody when you're a tiktoker. Because I remember it happened before years ago. Because she was always just a face on the camera. We never knew what she actually looks like. And I think people's mind kind of completed the picture. You know, your mind completes what you think she looks like, so it will never be what she actually looks like. I think we saw her the first time with Cody or something. Like, oh, she's not tall, for example, or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah.

[Moses]

And I remember the first time people saw her, they immediately attacked her like this, this. They were like, oh my God. Yeah, it was just like insane. I'm like, yeah, cuz you only saw like a face in a mirror, you know, you never saw the real person. And when you look at the light like that in one angle, you'll never get the essence of a person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even me. People always are like, I thought you were short. I thought you were taller. Oh my God, you're so smaller. Like people always like, I don't know what they assume. I don't know. Everyone's always like, you look, you. I thought you were taller. I thought you were shorter. Like people always say something like, all right, like I don't know, know just, just me as I am. But I thought, I thought you look good. We thought you looked good. I. I did not think one thing about it. I thought she looked really good actually. So.

[Oscar Gracie]

And hopefully you still talk to ET Again, girl. With Danny directly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, oh, now I'm second guessing it at euphoria. I was like, do I. I don't know. I don't know if I can tell

[Oscar Gracie]

the cameraman, okay, I'm bringing a sparkle. Yeah, bring the light. Yes, you should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should bring a little white. Yeah, we have some of that. Yes, do that actually I always need one. Okay, next time. Next one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I just got to control it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Cuz, you know, the camera people are old school.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They don't know the angles. One day they'll. They'll get it right. They'll be like, ooh, the skinny angles or something. Poor Michaela. I did see that one.

[Oscar Gracie]

I. So that was my first. I have two apologies. Say that was my first apology. Apologies to Michaela.

[Trisha Paytas]

For what? What you do. Oh, cuz you. You did ask for that interview. Well, you were actually just trying to. To set her up in a good way. You were like, we want to hear more. Michaela girl, come on. Here. We have great lighting. You look teeny tiny in that chair and probably teen high next to me. I think she was like a medium on my girl. Double XL right here. Let's go. You'll look as small as possible. Could you imagine this chair? She's gonna look so tiny, and she's shorter than me. She's gonna be like, little petite girl. This is the place to be. The oversized chairs. We love it.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's too funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, apology number one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Brooke Schofield. I apologize. I think she saw a TikTok where I poked fun at her for gas. Gassing up Taylor. Frankie Paul. Oh, Although. Because she did DM me. She said it was after. It was before the chair incident. And I was like, yes, I did go on to Claire.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think whatever you saw is probably clipped. And then, yeah, randomly. I was scrolling on TikTok last night, and then I think I saw the one that she saw. Mind you, it had 400 views and two likes, so I don't know how Brooks Cofield is one of those people

[Trisha Paytas]

who will see the zero. Me too. If it's about me, I'll see it with zero views. Like, she is one of those girls. I'm one of those girls. Like, she will see everything about herself.

[Oscar Gracie]

The same kills me. So apologies, Brooke Schofield. I did for my own. In my own defense, I did want to clarify. It was before the stool footage came out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Although I did say the last time I heeded your opinions on Mormon wives, it was when Whitney was on Dancing with the Stars and she defend. She loved the NICU dance. She said that was actually so fun in camp. And then the girls. That's. I was like, oh, people must love it. And then. No, I was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wa. You were on her side. You were like, I just.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because I didn't know anything about Mormon wife. So I just took it as like, oh, that Must be the. The consensus. And then I come to find out, deleted.

[Trisha Paytas]

She deleted it. Yeah. Which I think, yes, import, taste. But in comparison to all these other Mormon wives doing these crazy, dubious things, the cheating and obviously the abuse and all the stuff like that. Like, her doing that. I understand. Obviously. Postpartum, all like. I get it. Yeah. But Whitney deleted it and Brooke deleted it, so. Right. Did Winnie delete her? Is this a. I don't know if it could still be up. Who knows?

[Oscar Gracie]

Deleted it. She talked about it, the Z Way interview a couple months ago, Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's so funny. You said that most letters like, oh, did you see Woody on Z Way? And I was like, I think that's been like a month or two ago.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, it was a while ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But the clips do resurface.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. They're funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

They are funny. Zwei really, really goes in and gives it all. I know that I didn't see what she said. What did Whitney say about the nicu?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, Zway like, brought it up and she said, what's wrong with you? And then Whitney was just like, a lot. And then she just explained she was stuck in that room. She.

[Trisha Paytas]

She.

[Oscar Gracie]

She said that she wasn't, like, looking for attention or to milk it. She, like, wanted sympathy, for sure. She's like, I definitely wanted sympathy, but I didn't. Wasn't trying to, like, just get attention.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's hard. It's so hard because, like, you know, obviously on the outside you're just like a cringe girl, but you just don't know in those situations because even if you're not looking for sympathy, you know, you, like, share your whole life. Right. And you're like, everyone overshares online and it's just like. Yeah. What point do you. I mean, usually, like, if you're like. I would say if you're a kid sick, but who. I don't know. I haven't been in that situation Again, you just gave birth. You don't. You're not thinking. You think. I think it's. TikTok was relatively new at the time, too. I don't know. Yeah. Again, in the grand scheme of Mormon wife scandals, it may not be the worst. And she was there with the child in the hospital. She was there, like, you know, it seemed at the time, I guess, you know, it's like she did teach Z

[Oscar Gracie]

Way the dance as well, which I thought.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't see that part, you know, Love that sometimes, again, it's. It's harmless. So it's to, like, laugh at it. And the baby's okay and everything, so. Yeah, that's so funny. We. We love. Did you see the Whitney promoting hair extensions that weren't Jesse's?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes, Tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

And being an investor in it at that. Shit. These are the best hair extensions ever. I'm gonna invest. Me and Connor are investing, actually. That's how great they are.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Which, like, I mean, she's investing in a friend's small business. Like, Jesse is clearly well financially has a very successful business. Is clear like a millionaire.

[Trisha Paytas]

So giving sugar bear hair all over again.

[Oscar Gracie]

It is kind of giving. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Halo versus Sugar bear hair.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. But like. And also, Jesse's not in New York, but this girl that Whitney goes to is in New York, so it makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did Jesse say anything? No, I thought I saw a response. No, nothing. Okay. I thought I saw something maybe I missed.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know. It's hard with them, the Mormon wives, because they be commenting everywhere. Yeah. I shout out to the boots on the ground tik tok journalists that are coming with screamer shots of comments here and there. Then they delete the screenshot. It's crazy. So I'm sure we'll see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she responds. But, yeah, I think it's okay. I don't know. Yeah, like, if someone's like doing your hair and you want to invest and like you said, she's already well off.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I feel like it's not really competition because, like, they're in different places also. It's not, I don't know, like, it's a small business and I feel like, why not help someone who's like, really impacted your self confidence in the way that you look? If they're like, you know, an aspiring business person, like, why wouldn't you want to help them out if you can, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think it's. I think it's okay too. It was interesting. That was the other time.

[Oscar Gracie]

Fine, if it was like another Mormon wife, you know what I mean? Like, if it was like, if Demi was coming out with her hair clippings or whatever, then I feel like that's shadier. But if it's just like, yeah, someone that she knows, then that's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. It's not like she's saying, don't go by Jesse's.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, who is that girl? Who is it Jennifer saying that? Don't vote for Whitney. You know, that's a little. A little dubious. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I feel like if I, you know, my memoir comes out and someone Else's. And you promote someone else's memoir. I. I wouldn't be mad. You know what I mean? Like, if I go, I love this one more too, I'd be like, okay. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter. Like, there's also one person's opinion. You know, whatever. Like, people are still gonna buy your extensions. Jesse makes extensions to sell. Like, you can buy them online. I want to buy them. I need to try them out. I'm gonna try all the Mormon wise products. Gotta try Jesse's extensions.

[Oscar Gracie]

I really want you and Moses to do the. The true colors trend on TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't even seen this.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always love a trend. What's the trend?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's like Demi and her husband, they sing true colors in this latest season of Secret Lives Mormon Wives, but they sing it terribly. But they're taking it really serious. So now it's becoming a trend of, like, people doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But are they okay? Why were they singing in the show? They.

[Oscar Gracie]

Demi was, I think, genuinely interested in being an artist, but the show, I think, was being shady about it because she refused to keep filming the show. So I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why?

[Oscar Gracie]

I. I don't know the full lore because it really goes down to season three where everyone turns on to me as she becomes diabolical. But who's Demi?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she in season four?

[Oscar Gracie]

She sings in season four. She's barely in it because they already hate her. They all hate her. Except for Whitney. That's her best friend. But yeah. Anyway.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's the one.

[Moses]

You've been to the dress.

[Trisha Paytas]

I keep always seeing the one where the. The. I don't know. The Jordan is like, oh, but Demi doesn't want to film, but she has no problem coming in on her dress. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And sitting in the ballroom with the Secret lies of Mormon wives.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she's not filming.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, it's very.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that trend everywhere. I thought Connor doing it. I see it everywhere. Okay, so that's Demi.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was at Dancing with the Stars.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She still came to sit at the

[Trisha Paytas]

table with them, and now she's off the show, but she's singing true colors.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's saying true. Like, yeah, she wanted to become a recording artist. So they film. They have her a little bit throughout the season.

[Trisha Paytas]

Colors are beautiful.

[Oscar Gracie]

Girls, girl. Find the note.

[Trisha Paytas]

Find the note.

[Oscar Gracie]

And there was one scene where her and her husband go to record a cover of True Colors and she's like, it is very true. She's like, her husband's singing she goes, mm, you're a little pitchy. Like, you were doing it better at home.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not up. It's up.

[Moses]

You sounded better in the shower.

[Oscar Gracie]

It actually is so U coded, so I think you have to do well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I have a cover of True Colors that's out on itunes. It's called under the Covers, and it's my True Colors. Me and Sean did a little lyrical dance to it. I've done it. That is definitely like, Millennial song. Were they, like, raising money? Because it's usually done for, like, gay rights or something.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it was just for them.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're just doing it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. They booked a time in a recording studio, and then the producer who is just, like, you know, working the the booth, like in the TikTok Trend Audio, it goes. Oh, yikes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So are people lip syncing or they're actually singing?

[Oscar Gracie]

They're do they're lip syncing to it or they're putting it over, like, scenic views of Utah, and they're like, wow, Utah's so beautiful this time of year. And then they're playing this, like, terrible audio of Demi and her husband trying to sing. I think his name is Brett.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no idea, but sounds like it. Babe. Do you know any of it? Seeing your true colors true colors shining through I see your true colors and that's why I love you so don't be afraid to let them show your true colors your true colors are beautiful like a rainbow Colors are beautiful. Yeesh. Wait, I like that. Let me try to harmonize. Let me try and harmonize.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sing a little louder. Give a little more projection, babe. And then you go ill. Yikes. At the end.

[Moses]

Ready for your projection song?

[Trisha Paytas]

All right. Right, so do that. We'll go into the harmonies at the end. You do? Oh, yikes. Ready? So you just tried True colors.

[Moses]

Okay, wait, now I'm confused.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you're gonna just go? Just go. Sh. Like you're rehearsing.

[Moses]

By the way.

[Oscar Gracie]

I start like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, babe, just start, Babe. Just do it. Just go.

[Moses]

Can I see your true color?

[Trisha Paytas]

Louder, babe. That's flat.

[Moses]

But which one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Louder. True colors shining through. No, no, we're at the end. True colors and that's. I love you. Hi. We're gonna harmonize. Ready? Okay, let's do it together. Okay, Here we go. You're true colors and that's why I love you so don't be afraid to let them show you True colors, colors True colors are beautiful like a rain.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yikes.

[Moses]

I feel like I'm on podcast or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Most diabolical of all. I'm like, no, we are in good energy. We are positive energy. We're just having fun. Moses took it there.

[Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

That is so.

[Trisha Paytas]

But also real.

[Oscar Gracie]

Also real.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I loved it.

[Moses]

That was iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I was trying to keep you on.

[Oscar Gracie]

You do have Demi's hair color right now actually too. So. Yeah, you're very method.

[Trisha Paytas]

Catch me in the next season. Whitney's out. I'm in. I'm going to be. Who else is going to stay on Mormon Wives now? Nobody. Me and Taylor, Frankie Paul are the last remaining ones. No one else is coming back. I would love to guest star if they're here in la. That's gonna be so fun. I can't wait to do a little.

[Oscar Gracie]

Layla's here. You gotta reach out to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's coming back. Yeah, share people. Reach out again. She's coming back, so I'm gonna make it happen. I really.

[Oscar Gracie]

Michaela's here too. Michaela loves you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Michaela's a queen, but Queen. That's funny. I love that they did that. I loved your colors. That's so funny. They sounded horrible.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, Demi is actually going to be in the Alex Cooper's unwell Winter Games. Ironically, we didn't talk about this because

[Trisha Paytas]

we talked about it like right at the end of Patreon.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, we saw it right as I think we cut the cameras dead ass and then we. The news came out and then we were talking about it because we saw it after when we were. We did a phone check.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that's right. We saw it after the end. Oh, Demi's on it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Demi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Demi.

[Oscar Gracie]

And Darian always gets so mad every time they talk about her because they all. It's like dummy. And he's like, it's just Demi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just you. Who says dummy? Demi. Demi.

[Oscar Gracie]

Demi. On the show, there's no dummy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Demi. That's crazy. I'm calling her dummy. While the unwell Winter Games, they took place in Utah. That's where they. They did it in January. It's Alex Cooper, which you know what? I will never have Alex Cooper hate. Because like, love or haters say she a horrible interview.

[Oscar Gracie]

Whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, like, I'm just like in awe of her business and I just like, would love to be in her footsteps. Like, I think she's everything and I love that she's everywhere and really branding the unwell really going hard. Which Sophia with enough claims that she started the unwell with an email. She said, I cannot come in. I am Simply unwell. Wasn't that crazy? What if she actually started that? I don't know. This is all alleged from Sophia with an F. We don't know. But what does she, like, start? I guess you don't own the term. But what if she, like, came up with it? You know, what if I started a company called Dubious, you know, and I was like, it's now. Dubious is everywhere. We have a Dubious festival. Like, like, and you're nowhere to be seen and was just like, oh, I started Dubious.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, oh, my God, am I only, like, guests on my podcast are freaking James Charles. I'd be like, and you're getting freaking Zendaya, right? Pissed, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I'm getting all the mortal wise.

[Oscar Gracie]

My memoir would be coming. Yeah, you'd be called Dying on the Kitchen Floor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's a good one. That's actually a really good one. I. I think that's crazy. But also, I don't know if that's, like, real. I don't know what's real. Is it like that big of a deal? I don't know. People say they're on wall all the time, but yeah, so. But what's crazy is. Okay, so. Yes, I guess we can get into that. Well, I'll just say my little piece because you know me, I love to insert myself into little things. I was actually asked to host the Unwell Winter Games, which I was like, you know, it came about like, I did the Unwell Vegas show and that was so much fun. I got my little award and it was like such a key or whatever. So if Unwell asks, I will be running. I'm always like, running. Especially if it's Alex Cooper. I'm like, anything. I get the energy of all that. You know what I mean? But this was filming up in Utah for like a week. And what was it? It's like at the end of January or something. It was something where I was like, not here or, like, too busy. And it was also like a whole week long.

[Moses]

It was too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was like, too long away from, like, the kids and.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, because usually you can come back and forth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah. So it was like just a really. It just didn't really, like, make sense or whatever. But, like, I was sad. I really wanted to do it. I really wanted to do it. So I declined it.

[Oscar Gracie]

It.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if you can say, because I saw Jack Black on an interview recently, being like, they asked him, like, what role he turned down that he regretted. He's like, oh, you shouldn't Say it. Because then the person that got it feels bad, but, you know. But then he said it was. It was the villain from Incredibles that he turned down. And then he's like, but I'll say it anyways. And I was like, oh, yeah. Period. So to the person hosting, I don't know if you were second choice, but maybe. Maybe I was. I don't know. I know I was asked. Maybe we're gonna co host it, and then you got to host it. I'm sure whoever got it is funny. I just love that I was. I was asked to host, though. That kind of feels good. Like. Like, not even to be a participant, because it's like they have, like, lily ponds on there. Or am I just making that up? Or is there someone who looks like lily ponds?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it's someone who looks like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's the other one. Alyssa Violet.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not to say they're the same, but they both have, like, long blonde hair.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah. Lele's a huge. I'm not that she wouldn't do it, but I. Yeah, I was like, oh, I would have been. I would have been happy to have been asked to be a contestant, but the fact that I was asked to host, I feel very Alex Cooper Jr. Jason. I felt very cool.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Little Gabby winning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It was giving. Yeah, it's giving. Gabby. It was giving. Like Alex Cooper at the Winter Games, but, like, unwell. Winter Games. You know what I mean? She was at the Olympics, and I'm there, so I was definitely honored to be asked. I had no idea what it was. I had no clue what it was. I thought maybe it was, like, athletes or something. I didn't really know what it was, but again, I would have said yes if it wasn't like, there was something happening where I was gone for a minute in January. Oh, I think I was filming that TV show, too. I was filming the TV show that's coming out soon. Yes. It was right around that time, so I think I was just, like, gone too much, but I receded for it. It's gonna be on YouTube. They really announced this. Like, it's a. It's the Olympic Games. Like, they really did a press release

[Oscar Gracie]

for it, so I love airing it in spring. Like, that's kind of fierce, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Right. The Winter Games that we shot in

[Oscar Gracie]

January, but probably for the best, I guess, that you didn't host because there are cries to scrap it because Dakota from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is also in it. So people are like, well, if Taylor Frankie Paul's the Bachelorette can't air. Then why can Dakotas show air?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I'm with people. Dakota shot Bianca because who are you? But, but, but, but with. It's kind of. Is it a little different because like, like there wasn't like, you know, we saw her throw a chair at him and like hit her child. Right. We don't know. We know he's like an. It's not quite the same. I agree. Dakota should not be on anything. Like who ask like why is he there? I think probably cuz he was close. Like it filmed in Utah. That's why I brought it up. Because it filmed in Utah. Probably like not an expense. Right. He doesn't have to travel him put him up in a hotel. They'll probably just get someone. He'll say yes in Utah but kind of not the same. Or am I wrong? I don't know. I feel like it's not really the same.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think the Darvo argument gets brought up a lot with him.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's Darvo?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's basically like the response. Right. Like he is also abusive and kind of like is beating the response. So I do think because he allegedly

[Trisha Paytas]

threw in the garage.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And I think more is going to come out. I don't know anything but it. I just get the sense that Taylor's been a little quiet and I think it's likely that she's also going to, you know, build her build and demonstrate her own case against Dakota. So I, I think that he also will definitely, definitely stuff will probably end up coming up coming out about him. I guess you are right though in the sense that there's like. It's kind of like when Taylor got the Bachelorette, like people knew of the charges against her, but it wasn't until like we actually saw her actually act abusive that the show got pulled. So I guess it is kind of similar. I think if anything were to come out, it's also kind of different because this is like a YouTube show versus like ABC, which is Disney. It's a network television show that the spot like who no ad company is going to want to buy ads on the Bachelor, like have a commercial on it. If it's, you know, promoting someone who has like domestic abuse charges, that's kind of like the T. So it is like a little bit different. I guess it does bring up this like double standard though. I do see why people are upset for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. First I was only like. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Also in the light of things. True. Yeah. Maybe like not a great Time. I. I guess. But on the flip side, like you said, it's not abc. So it's like they probably spent budget on this. And I don't know if they could like take a hit the way ABC could take the hit to just pull it completely. They could do like try guys Tea and just try to edit him out.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's what I would think too. Even RuPaul's Drag Race. I think they've had two instances where like stuff came out about a contestant after the show aired and they literally just removed them from the season. Like they re edited the episode to make them like completely gone from the storyline. And there would be moments where like, I remember, like you would kind of see like an. An arm or something like in the background, like when they all line up or whatever. But they did a really good job of editing them out of the storyline.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They done it in 90 day. They did it on Love is Blind. They edit out people. Yeah. So I feel like. Yeah. It's not too distracting.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. It's also like the setup is like controversial figures, I guess. I. I mean, is it. Yeah, it's like controversial figures from reality tv.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. That's why you're like, good thing you did it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Cuz Huda. Huda from Love Island USA is also in the cast and she's also in the whole debacle right now with her ex. She. I mean, she's had like racist stuff a couple months ago and then she just had a whole debacle. I think there's like a temporary restraining order from her ex boyfriend too, because a whole bunch of stuff just surfaced from her. So it's kind of like, oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Unwell indeed.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now I'm like offended. They asked me to host.

[Oscar Gracie]

How do you take that being the first choice? I should have probably said this in that case.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is. Okay. Well, yikes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, that kills me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sophia with an F is hosting now. That is crazy. Oh, well, Eliza Violet, I guess has had some problematic past.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So I guess it kind of makes sense that it is, I guess on Brand as far as, you know, having controversial people. I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Maybe that's what they wanted they were going for because why Dakota? I'd rather have. I feel like the gown guy.

[Oscar Gracie]

And obviously this was shot before the recent. The last case happened in February. That's kind of when the news broke with. And everything kind of fell apart with Taylor. So obviously this was shot before that in January.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

So they didn't cast him knowing that. And Also, I think Unwell issued a statement when they started getting backlash that, like, they aren't having Dakota advertise the show, like, on his socials. Like, that was part of the contract for all of them to post and, like, you know, build up the hype around the show. But with him, they're not having him posted at least to kind of minimize his involvement. I don't know if that does anything to appease anybody, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I think at the end of the day, I think people will watch. Watch for the messy. I think that's like Taylor Frank about the Bachelorette. Like, of course it would be the most viewed because, like, the messy wants people to watch. Like, it is awful. Like, morally wrong stuff like that. But I think people tune in for

[Oscar Gracie]

real Reality house tease.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes. They want to see the mess. They want to see. That's what. Yeah. That's why people watch. So I think. I don't know, though. Dakota is not Taylor, Frankie, Paul, you know, at the end of the day, yeah, they're. They're awful. And she's awful what she did, but at least she's entertaining. Like, Dakota has no redeeming quality. Like, literally none. Yeah, like none. Literally. Any of dad talk would have been better than him, literally, Honestly.

[Oscar Gracie]

So. Right. Jordan. I fear even Jordan, one of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jordan. Yeah. He's kind of, you know, he's kind of. He's annoying, but annoying.

[Oscar Gracie]

He's unintentionally camp. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Even the. What's his name?

[Oscar Gracie]

Zach.

[Trisha Paytas]

Zach. I can't deny. Zach. Whatever. Get him on there. I guess. I don't know. Get anyone but Dakota.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. He is the worst out of all of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who else? Are there anyone else on that show that we know? Is anyone good? Not. You know what I mean? Like, sweet.

[Oscar Gracie]

And Halle Batcheldor. I know the girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do love her. She's a comedian.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And I know she has a podcast, Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Okay. So people love her. I've never seen you look so close to your computer. Is it little?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't recognize anyone else. Alyssa? No. Oh, Anna Delvey. How could I forget Anna Delvey?

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so random.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I know the stars to.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, sometimes there's, like, hierarchy, I think traders, too. There's different hierarchies with pay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She probably got more, I would assume. I mean, it's. Is that a big. I guess, kind of a big get,

[Oscar Gracie]

maybe Controversial, for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she did go to prison, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No judgment, but she was Convicted of fraud.

[Oscar Gracie]

Remember when Ezra. I think it was Risa, when she talked. When he talked about how she, like, unfollowed him or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, I didn't see.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it was on a podcast recently where, like, he made a joke or something. Like he made. It was like, not even. I forget what it was specifically, but it was something very, like, light about how one of the rehearsals or something, and then she went and like, unfollowed him and he talked about it on

[Trisha Paytas]

a podcast and then he's like, oh, well, girl, I mean, come on. You're going on all these shows people are going to talk about. You're lucky people are making light of it. It could be so serious. And no one wants anything to do with you. But the fact that people are kind of giving you a little celebrity status from it is kind of impressive. I guess

[Oscar Gracie]

there is a big hot topic that I hashtag. I don't go here, like, for real. But it's kind of in the same world where there was a big scandal with one of the Bravo shows, Summer House House. And have you ever heard of it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I'm so not a Bravo girly, but I can be.

[Moses]

Keep hearing about it. But from Dave.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah, of course. Involved himself.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I haven't even see that usually. I see everything, Dave. I'm usually locked in.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, the gist is one of the stars of Summerhouse, Sierra. She was also on the Traders. Not this year, last year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

She. Her ex boyfriend is dating her, like, best friend, and it was like, you know, it's kind of similar to Mormon wives where it's like, you know, a big betrayal because she was really, really close to this girl and she was like, helping her get through, like, her divorce and helping her realize that she had to separate for her own good. So she was kind of there through all that. And then she goes and now she's been dating her ex boyfriend.

[Trisha Paytas]

What are the ages are we in? 20s, 30s or 40s?

[Oscar Gracie]

So Sierra's 30. Okay. Amanda, her former best friend, is 34. And west is 31. Okay, okay, okay. And they this the best part of it is. Okay. So they issued a joint statement yesterday. Amanda and Wes officially declaring their relationship because word was getting around. And there's a paparazzi photo of Sierra, who is gorgeous and I need to stop using this so lightly. But it is kind of like her 911 because she was paparazzi photographed with someone telling me, telling her the news. She's wearing a gorgeous white dress Outside of Hermes in New York, like, on the street. And they're telling her this news right before. Like, a minute before they're going to post their joint statement announcing to the world that they're together. And she, like, is slumped over, like, falling. Leaning against the wall and slipping down and falling, like, taking it in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, slipping, like, her hands on windows.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, she's leaning against the wall, and then she's, like, sliding down. Then she, like, sits on the floor, and she's like this. And it is, like, so fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so it's a video or pictures.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's paparazzi photos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And it's, like, literally, it's such a visceral moment, but so gaggy. And this, like, Sierra, don't even sweat it, baby, because this is gonna be, like, your legacy. Like, you are a star officially.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think this is real and someone caught her? You don't think this was.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it's real. It's not giving Heidi Montag, like, crying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Paparazzi photos. It's also, like, from very far. It's far. It's green.

[Trisha Paytas]

How'd they catch her, though, in that exact moment that she falls to her knees?

[Oscar Gracie]

They were just following her that day because news was getting around, and I feel like it was just like the bubble was about to burst. Like, Tick Tockers were making all their reporting.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I miss all this. And who did the hard launch?

[Oscar Gracie]

Amanda and Wes officially issued a statement via Instagram.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

So the two guilty people in. In question, right? Just went and made it official themselves and. Yeah, but see how girl, like, I barely. She looked really cute in Traitor. She didn't do much, but she looked good. She was the one that was, like, she kept falling for the Rob from Survivor. Like, she. He was a traitor, and, like, he took her under his wing and, like, manipulated her to think that he wasn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, okay, so she didn't do much

[Oscar Gracie]

in Traitors, but she looked good. Like, she always had a headband, cute outfits, like skirts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

So her legacy is to serve.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay?

[Oscar Gracie]

And this photo, like, will be, like. This is her future book cover. Like, it's. It's, like, iconic. Like, she. She will recreate this outside of the Hermes looking that cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I love that she was outside of there.

[Oscar Gracie]

So fierce. It's so fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Yeah. And honestly, girl, like, I do think I don't know you, but I do think once a girl gets cheated on like this in a shady way, they, like, go down and you only go up, even if they don't go down. Right. We're being positive. Right. Positive energy. They're going to just stay. They could have a Tom Sandoval career. Great. Look at Ariana Madic. She is just going.

[Oscar Gracie]

Exactly. That's exactly what I thought.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's on Love Island. She's on Broadway. Broadway. She's that girl. She's glowed up. She looks so much better. Tom, Zander Ball is covering the weekend on America's Got Talent. Okay. You know what I mean? Which is fine. He's still thriving in his own way. But you are thriving more and you will. And like you Lasker said, you have this like iconic moment of you just like being breaking down. Like you said, this could be a movie. This could be everything. Like crying at the Hermes garden or whatever, you know, whatever it is, whatever you're doing. Breaking down at it. Like iconic. You probably will end up hosting. What is she from Summer House? Yeah, you could be end up posting Summer House or any Bravo show that you want. You know, maybe Bachelorette one day.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who knows? The world is really oyster at this point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anything.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because everyone really like I again, I'm a light Bravo girl. I used to watch it more when I was younger but like Rihanna is very into Bravo and she unfollowed singer. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, how do you know that? That's so random.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was an article that she unfollowed because she follows all the Bravo people. She unfollowed Amanda and Wesley, but she still follows Sierra. So you have Rihanna's blessing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I want to follow her. What's her name? Summer.

[Oscar Gracie]

Sierra.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sierra from Summer House. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's fierce. She's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Is she doing interviews? Should we have her on? Girl, come on, we need to know.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm sure she'll get.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, call her daddy. But come on, Jestersh if you want. You never know the off chance you love me, I'm here. I need to know all the tea on this. That's. So when did this all come about?

[Oscar Gracie]

It all was bubbling over yesterday. Like all the girls were like on TikTok because I feel like I'm in the algorithm now with like, you know, it's like the reality tea and the girls quickly switch. All the Mormon wives, reporters put their Bravo hats on and they were reporting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I do need to get into this world. Either myself get onto one of these shows or just like insert myself in this in this pop culture because I know it's such a. I know Bravo is so big. Like they have Bravo con. Yeah, I Would love to be in that Bravo sphere. I feel like maybe Housewives or something. I could get into, like, literally into the show.

[Oscar Gracie]

Housewives would be the tea because everyone, everyone watches that. Like all the celebs, like Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, like every, like, it's everyone's guilty pleasure. I, again, I used to be like a big housewives hand. I think it just got so big as far as, like, there were so many cities that are Housewives that, like, I ended up tapping out because it was too much for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you keep up with all of them?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, it's. It's a full time job.

[Trisha Paytas]

Real Housewives, we know Beverly Hills. You're down for it.

[Moses]

Yeah,

[Trisha Paytas]

enthusiasm. That Andy Cohen will be like, we need that on TV if we're getting those reactions. No, we can, we can hold it down. We could represent. There's not a curse. Sometimes you think, like, you know, who is like Kyle Richards and her husband, like, you know, they always, like, divorced, but there's like Lisa Brennan and Harry Hamlin. They survived Real Housewives.

[Moses]

So it's a different kind of reality show. Some reality shows, they need you. If it's competition and all that, they needed to be the person like. Yeah, like always clapping and being hyped.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, I'm saying, I think they want you to be not hyped. I think they need drama.

[Oscar Gracie]

Huh?

[Moses]

You can be chill.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think they need drama.

[Moses]

Yeah, but you can have chill drama.

[Trisha Paytas]

How's. What's your chill drama? How would it be?

[Moses]

You know, it's like, it's. It's different. You know, if there's a housewife disrespectful to you or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you're gonna step in.

[Moses]

You need to leave now.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow.

[Moses]

That's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, we might get hired. That was pretty good. I love that.

[Moses]

The door is right there.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? Moses can mo. Some people, Some people might like to be scared of Moses sometimes. Sometimes he can lay it down, which I. You know what I mean? Like that quiet. That quiet. Ooh, scary.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like you can give a little. But she wants to sit at the. But she wants to sit at the table with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let's see. Let's see you.

[Moses]

What part is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

The gowns. Can you do the gown?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I thought you did say this. She doesn't want to film with the Real Housewives, but then she'll go sit in a gown with the table with all the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

[Moses]

I don't understand. She doesn't want to film, but she can sit with that gown over there. No, no, no. Not in the Betas. Hackman house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. I love that. Love it.

[Moses]

We could easily. We know, Andy, because also, the things you're not going to be comfortable doing. I'll be pushing and being like, you know, the producers. Like, she needs to be there. She needs to be first in line. There's no reason.

[Trisha Paytas]

With the producers, too. Tell people off camera.

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's got to be first. Actually, Moses will be like that. He will be like, oh, that's like. I always remember the Donny Osmond one where we were, like, gonna go interview or we were doing something, we're interviewing him, and there was, like, a line of people. He's like, no, no, we can just go to the front. I was like, no, let's sit in the back, or whatever. And then they did let us go to the front. But I would never. I would never be like, oh, my God, let's pass this line. Moses. No problem asking anyone to, like, do so. I was like, no, I just. I like to not ask. I like to just sit back and just wait till we're told what to do.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Then you end up getting there. Like, where were you? We were looking for you. We're waiting for you. Donnie's invited you to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Well, so, you know, that's why I have you. Okay. Real Housewives. That could be our. Could be our calling. Andy liked me, I think.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think we had a good.

[Moses]

It was good. No, he said he's. People are gonna be upset he didn't have you as a main guest.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, now you can have me as a main person. Holding that. What do they hold? What? Oranges. What do they hold in Beverly Hills?

[Oscar Gracie]

Beverly Hills is a diamond.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Love that. Who else is on? Who's on it right now?

[Oscar Gracie]

Rachel Zoe is the newest addition. Jennifer Tilly is like. She's not an official, but she's like the friend. The fun friend who's. Who comes and goes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love her.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think the re is still on it. I think the Re bows. She used to be. Oh, gosh. She used to work for Netflix. She used to be, like, the. The head honcho of Netflix. Oh, girl, she's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Any of the Hilton people still on?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think Kyle Richards is still on. And Kathy is, like, here and there, like, makes cameos.

[Trisha Paytas]

What about the sister of Kyle Richards?

[Oscar Gracie]

Kim? No, Kim Richards hasn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

She had some good moments. I've seen on Tik Tok.

[Oscar Gracie]

She had some good Good. Oh, Erica Jayne.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's still on Denise Richards?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, she left a couple seasons ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's kind of everything on that show too. Remember, she had this. She. I saw a clip of her with her top on backwards, and they're like, did you ever see that? Oh, my God. And they're telling you, like, your tops on backwards. And she's like, so magic. You're on backwards. Like, stop. And it was like. It was, like, on back. And she was, like, drunk, but she was just like, stop it.

[Moses]

She said they were gaslighting her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they were like, your back or yours upside down? It's like, you don't know. I don't know. It's just so fun. I've seen the clips. That seems fun. I'd be on Guess. I guess we're both down for it. I was like, well, I thought Moses

[Moses]

would be smoking cigars again or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that seems like a speak up.

[Moses]

Some habits, you know, that's your thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

We always need a thing on there. That'd be a good one. We're down. All right, call us. A lot of the housewives are in, like, Northridge and Encino. They're not really in Beverly Hills.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, they're all over la.

[Trisha Paytas]

Housewives of the Valley.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, most of them are in the Valley. I think, like, Bose, I think, is Beverly Hills, maybe. I know, like, the Hiltons. Not Kathy. Kathy's definitely Beverly Hills, but like, Kyle's, Encino, Reeds, and Ceno. Yeah. Erica, I think, is still over the hill, but. Yeah, literally. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Over 40.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I didn't know where you're going with that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. I love the energy. I love over the Hill because I'm gonna be 40 in two years and two months. And I was thinking about my over the Hill party, and I was like, that's gonna be kind of fun just being 40, hitting the stride at that age. 30s is young. I'll be sad to leave them, but I'm excited for my 40s. 30s is young. If you're in your 30s, you're. You're young. I think Liza just turned 30. I think that's why I saw. I think Liza Koshy just turned 30.

[Oscar Gracie]

So her birthday's around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think it was March 31st. She is. She is young.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm trying. I could pivot in so many ways. I think I will pivot to more good luck news as you are in Lucky Girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are Lucky Girl. Oh, my Lucky Girl vlog is out tomorrow. I should have remembered that beginning. Jimmy is on It. He said, that Lucky Girl video is done. And he said he added a little something new. I forgot to respond to you, but I'm responding to you now, Jimmy. He said, I added a little something new that I hope the viewers will like. So I'm excited to see what it is.

[Oscar Gracie]

So, I mean, little tease is something he cut out. And I said, jimmy, release the problematic cut because it was so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, can you say a little what it is? Or I can censor it if it's

[Oscar Gracie]

because it's so funny and it's not even that problematic. But, you know, Jimmy is. You're the last line of defense.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is. Thank God. Thank God for Jimmy.

[Oscar Gracie]

When you were looking for a shamrock, it was. You were looking for a shamrock with Moses. And then you.

[Trisha Paytas]

He cuts all this. He's like, actually. Right?

[Oscar Gracie]

I didn't know, but I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny. You know what he does? Look out. I remember even, like, during, like, my birth one too. He's like, maybe we could. And I'm like. I remember asking him, like, is this a. Is this bad? But I get it. He's trying to be.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. He's truly the last line. So he has to be, like, on high alert just in case.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I love that. I know. We do not love lying. I was like, I gotta edit this. I'm like, jimmy will edit it for you. He doesn't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Jimmy always has, like, the foresight of, like, how things will be clipped. So he.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

In context, things aren't bad. But he's like, okay, if this gets clipped out of context. Context. Could this be perceived in this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything we say out of context. Obviously you with Brooke, like, everything. I love that he sent that as a thing. I know. He said sometimes he sends me, like, little nuggets. He's like, I love the one where you're like, in Target Malibu. Do you like this dress? And she's like, I want cookies. He's like, she's such a diva. And I was like, she is. It is. That's so funny. We love it. We love. My vlogs have really enhanced. They're all getting over a hundred thousand views still shadow banned. Please YouTube on shadow ban me. I really think I'd be crushing it right now. People could search, ask. You're trying to search for once and L4MJ and nothing comes up. So please allow me back in those searches.

[Oscar Gracie]

I can search for you. It just didn't show up in my recommended to clarify.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Let's put me in there. And you're subscribed.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

It should be. I should be there. Come on. I'm trying. I'm trying my best YouTube.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, the. The good luck trend that was taking over China was Kris Jenner.

[Moses]

Oh, it's in my hot Topic.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, really? You were.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, okay, but real quick, Dave Portnoy. What was the Porto connection? Okay, so I want to tap on this.

[Oscar Gracie]

He just involved himself. He was like, this is old tea. Briano Chicken Fried told me this at the super bowl because she was friends with. With west the Dubious man.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Because then I saw.

[Moses]

He was destroying Brianna Chicken. Brian the bus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Because then I saw Brianna Chicken. All I saw was like, someone take. Dave Porter was going away. And I was like, what? Okay. All right.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, so he's just like, involving his. Himself in meth. Speaking of over the hill, let's wrap it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was too much. Okay. All right, back to good luck trend in China.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Kris Jenner is a. A symbol of good luck. And it was taking over China's social media.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her face or what?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, basically.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

On platforms like webo and Red Notes, posts were being shared of Kris Jenner's face with captions suggesting that she brings suggestions, success and wealth and positive outcomes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? That's so real. What are they doing?

[Moses]

Are they posting changing their profile pictures to Kris Jenner?

[Oscar Gracie]

Because she has some. And, like, they'll put her in different outfits for, like, if they're applying to jobs or stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because. So cool.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because they see her. They see her as someone who's very successful, obviously.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

And a good businesswoman. So, yeah, they're. They're channeling her energy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so real. Because if you think about it, all the businesses, she gets a cut of that. Skims that good American, that Lemmy, like, she is getting a cut of it. And that is so, so. I love that we should all channel that energy. That's why I'm always gonna be pro Kardashians. Because again, messy, whatever. It's like, they really just know how to do it. They just know how to keep going too. Like, just. Let's just keep going and keep making money. Like, that's everything.

[Moses]

Her nickname in China is Queen Mother.

[Trisha Paytas]

Queen Mother. I love. I wish I was Queen Mother. That's so cool.

[Moses]

People will use AI to transfer her to whatever they want luck with. So one person was just going to the gym, so they made her a picture of her, like, muscular and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love. And it's like her face do you have a picture?

[Moses]

And they make that there. I mean, it always looks like James Charles, but. And then they make it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

They make it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Their profile.

[Trisha Paytas]

My eyes are a little blurry. Well, is that. Yeah.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know where to go with that. The hat. The hat. He does want, like, a backwards hat.

[Moses]

But she's. I don't know if you see there, she's like. Like an NFL player. She's like, muscular, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

They're giving. I like the gym shark.

[Moses]

Good luck on the gym. So they make a muscular.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she respond to it? Has Christian or said anything?

[Oscar Gracie]

She did, actually. She reposted. So a tick tocker named Marcello Wang. He, like, broke down the significance of Kris Jenner and the symbolism. So she reposted his video and said, you're all doing amazing, sweetie.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. Oh. So she acknowledged.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kris Jenner is where I try to channel myself every single day.

[Oscar Gracie]

Maybe you should post a Kris Jenner to your story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, how do I. But I don't know how to make it. I don't know how to make it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just a random photo of Kris Jenner with whatever you want.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder if there's ever I should ask someone to, like, not AI, but like, Photoshop me and Kris Jenner together on Twitter.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, that's a good idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we'll see by the end of the show.

[Moses]

So today there's actually. It's called Artemis 2. They're actually going to the moon today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who?

[Moses]

Kris Jenner, NASA. Oh, so maybe that was such a. So maybe for good luck you can combine the two. Like have a Kris Jenner going to the moon image.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I should be in the moon with her. Because they're going to the moon.

[Moses]

We want to. We want to send them good luck. Right. Like, there's an actual crew. There's people for the first time in many years.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I want good luck for me. I need to use this. Astronauts give me some good luck.

[Moses]

Because you brought up the moon so much today. So I thought, well, we're actually going to the moon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. Okay. And the pink moon. I'll have them merge us all together. Maybe the pink moon, then that'll tie in. Thanks, Nita. For the pod in the next 20. 30 minutes. 30 minutes. Okay, 30 minutes.

[Oscar Gracie]

30 minutes. All right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's see what they come back with. All right. That's so funny. I kind of love that in China, too. China, of all places. They just know. They know the luck. You know what I mean? They really.

[Moses]

She's lucky. Because people, everyone wants to, you know, break into China to that market.

[Oscar Gracie]

True.

[Moses]

And the fact that the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Kardashian, like keeping up with the Kardashian is a Chinese trend now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, do you know who the last trend? Amir or I guess not American. The last trend, that was a symbol of good luck around the Lunar New Year in China.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're asking me? Or that was the symbol.

[Oscar Gracie]

Do you want. Do you want to know? Know it's someone who.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dubious.

[Oscar Gracie]

Not dubious. Well, maybe a little. But Chinese bad et someone who beat you at the iHeartradio Music Awards.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tom Felton. What did he do? He was the. He was the good look at the Chinese New Year.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. For the Lunar New Year. This, this recent one, they like, they put his him as Draco Malfoy. Specifically. There was like photos of him everywhere. He was a symbol of good luck.

[Trisha Paytas]

China put me next. I'm taking that energy and I'm not being jealous. I want it for me. I want it to be me. China, we're a Chinese baddies over here. We drink the tea, we wear the house slippers. We love you. I'm here. We just put our dragon mirror up. Our dragon mirror is up. I'm year of the dragon. We have a snake right here. Our tiger is blinged. We honor you so deeply. I put up all the Buddhas. I give them apples in the morning. I give them coffee. Like, we love you. Please make me your symbol. I would love that more than anything in the whole world. And I'm trying to get on that Chinese tour. I think Benson Boone's doing a China tour and I'm trying to get on there with him before his North American one. I wow, it worked. He won. Tom Felton won. They did, I think, make him do a video. Did you see this morning?

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

They posted him finally doing a video acceptance of it. But I feel like they just post an hour ago, so I feel like someone had to sit him down. Literally, it's like him and it's like 20. We love no hate at all. We love icon, legend. Deserved it. But it's Tom Felton for like literally like 10 seconds just saying what his Instagram caption says, like, wow, thank you for this award. Wasn't expecting it. My mom's really proud. Thank you.

[Moses]

Maybe it was AI.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was giving that. We're like, where are you? What is happening in this situation? He's like, thank you for the award, the Broadway Debut Award. I appreciate it so much. I'm like, all right. He's busy. He's busy being on Broadway, I guess. But it worked. The China knew. They knew. I. I trust those superstitions. 100. I would love to be the symbol trying to go over to Asia this year, yet still, that's my goal. Have you seen these Korean lip tints comments that people have been doing? Using it. I want it so bad. Ava Kotowski just got it. But a lot of people are getting it. It's like. I want to say they kind of, like, maybe do needles. I don't know. But it's something that makes your lips kind of like. It's like a natural liner almost. It doesn't look like liner, but it's like a naturally. It makes your lips just appear a little fuller. Let me show you Ava. Ava's was so cool. And, like, it's like a lip. It's almost like a lip stain. It kind of gives it a little color because when I don't wear makeup, like, my lips look like I'm a corpse. Like, I look like I'm blue and stuff like that. So this gives you, like, natural color. It's really cool. And then Ari, my makeup artist, said she. Her brow person, does it in trim noaks, actually. And I've been seeing it all over. Ava just did it. Let me show you hers. I'm on a mission this week to glow up in Korea. And today in episode two, we're doing Korean lip blushing. Guys, the amount of comments I get saying to try lip blushing, I don't know if my lips just look blushable, but y' all have been begging me to try this. I found this spot called Mayun, and I booked an appointment. I'm nervous. We did have to commute communicate entirely through a translator app, which, looking back, is pretty crazy, considering this is my face that we're dealing with. But I trusted that. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you see the thing because the after she showed, I was, like, on her page, and I saw the after here.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow.

[Moses]

It seems like a lot of new treatments nowadays are basically hurting you to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, because it, like, it's like getting your natural blood collagen. It's stimulating, right? It's like the PfP or something like that. So it's, like, stimulating. I mean, I'm sure they, like, numb you.

[Moses]

I really want, like, putting needles into places, and then your body kind of, like, reacts. Reacts and heals the wounds. And I don't know, but it just seems.

[Trisha Paytas]

If you hate it, I love it. And then. I know. Me too. I really want to get it done. Tana got the Korean head spas thing where she said it was, like, a cleansing thing where they, like, do a deep wash of your hair. It goes for, like, an hour. There's one in Cameroon. I always see it on Thousand Oaks. Now you. I really want to go so bad. Maybe a Patreon watches. Anything for Patreon. Like, it's supposed to, like. I wonder if they would let us film. I should ask. They're on TikTok. They're all about that social media, so maybe they'll let us film there. But she said Tana got one done, and she gets, like, this really deep wash, like an hour. They, like, wash your hair, like, massage it and just really cleanse it. And she. I felt so much lighter. I felt so much better. So maybe we should try new Korean beauty trends. Would you do the lip thing or anything? That's a little crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm kind of into it just because it looks okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

So. And then the one that Ari told me about today, it looked really natural. Like, obviously, that's right after. So it's swollen because you have to, like, heal a little bit. But I'll show you the before and afters on the one in. I mean, she was, like, literally in Seoul, so obviously that's gonna be probably better than anything here.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, she was in Seoul?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was in South.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was wondering with the translator, I was like, where is she?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. But, like, see, like, this is. This is called Marin Glam. This isn't Sherman Oaks. But she did the lip blush. It's very, like, natural.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it gives it a little. I mean, you have nice lips, so you don't have to do it. But I really, really. I really think we could get, like, Korean fried cheese dogs. You know what I mean? We could just do a whole little Korean day. It'd be so much fun. They really know the glass skin. Everything I need to find it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. The K Beauty is where it's at.

[Trisha Paytas]

So where it's at. And I'm like, I always see Mr. M.E. ashton going over there and getting, like, treatments done. I'm like, I need to do that, too. I love the glass skin. All right. If there's any other. I need to find where they do that, where they literally make your skin like glass. Let us know, because I'm trying to do all that. I am. I am getting older, and I just need that, like, fresh skin look, you know, Just really be glossy and glassy. Not gassy work.

[Oscar Gracie]

I got perfect transition, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Skincare.

[Oscar Gracie]

Alex Earl Skincare everyone's really mad at her for it because she is obviously she has struggled with her acne. She's like the get ready.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is the theme of all the show. Everyone is just mad always. There's never going to be news that's like someone's happy for this person. People are mad, mad at the girls. What else is there? Right? Exactly.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Obviously she's known as the get ready with me girl. I guess I didn't know that either, but she was on GMA today and she was doing a get ready with me. So I'm like, I guess she is known as a guest.

[Trisha Paytas]

So like you're that girl now.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, that's her brand, I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

But she's talked about in the past like her struggle with acne and she, she's documented it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

And now she's releasing her own skincare brand, Real Actives. I'm sorry, terrible name. I'm so sorry. I say this with love. No shade. Terrible name. It gives like athletic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Athletic wear. Yeah, 100%. Isn't there is one called something close to that? Like.

[Moses]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Athletic wear or something? I think like Chloe does one with Athletic Athleisure. Yeah. Real Actives. Horrible for a skincare navy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Actually it really gives. Real Active Wear is an Active. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Real Actives is crazy. But okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Anyway, yeah, so she's releasing her own skincare line and everyone was like, well you have gone on Accutane and you've obviously had like laser treatments and stuff. So is it like really authentic for you to be selling your skincare brand when like this alone wouldn't make your skin look like that?

[Trisha Paytas]

But in her defense, because I know what they mean, she has been on it. Right. But her skin was continuously bad. Like I was on practice, right? Proactive was fine, but the minute I stopped Proactive, my skin would break out again. So you know, maybe she was on it and then once you're off of it, it like F's you up. You know what I mean? Like.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, because she said that she ended up having to go on and clarify because everyone was giving her, giving her a hard time. And she said that this is a line that she developed with the dermatologist and she was using this after three rounds of Accutane that didn't completely clear up her skin. So she does, does credit Real Actives for helping her in her skincare journey.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't doubt it. I will say. Cuz I, I did a collaboration with a skincare line. It Was like a local person, like, very small business. Very, like, small operated business here in Northridge. And, like, it really cleared up my skin so much. Like, I have not used Proactive and it was so great. So I was like, oh, my God, I would love to partner and market this, like, yellow soap. It was like this turmeric soap. And if you look. Not any turmeric. Talk about Korean beauty. Like, a lot of it. Like the Costas, like, the. All that stuff like that is. Is tumeric base. If it's yellow, it's like tumeric base. It's all I've used for the past five years. And my skin is so perfectly clear. Like, never have a breakout ever. And obviously, like, when I'm at Moses and stuff, I was on Proactive and it. Yeah, after a while, your skin just gets used to it or if you stop using it or something like that. So it definitely could. Her skin looks amazing. Like, when she showed it without makeup. It does. Because I remember her having all the acne and stuff like that. And I was like, wow, it really looks good. I know people's arguments with, like, treatments. I do feel like treatments, treatments, at least in my experience, I have really. I had really bad acne, too. It's like they can, like, laser it, but they come back, like, they can do, like, things where they can, like, shoot it off and stuff. I think overall treatments more stimulate your skin, give it glassy de aging. Very few, like, laser because it's kind of hormonal, right? Like, acne is kind of hormonal. So it's like, very few topical things can, like, help. From what I know, I've had pretty bad acne, and I tried every solution. So I also don't doubt Mikayla always at the scene of the crime, too. Did you see Mikayla's response to this?

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mikayla's like, I know Alex Earle's skin care line's gonna be good. How do I know? She used all the same people. She went to my lab, my thing, like, my packaging. She goes, oh, I know it's gonna be great because it's my people. You didn't see this. That was the controversy I saw around it. So a little shade, a little maybe not maybe a little past, maybe it wasn't. Maybe she meant it in this nice way. I'm not sure, but I just thought that was kind of everything. She was. Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, I know have her own skincare line.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah. So she's like, I know it's great because it's my people. It's everything I've used. It's all my packaging. It's all. It's the same factory, same everything. So maybe a little passive being. Like, I did this first, and she just copied me. I don't know. Or she made. She was congratulating her. But I think they.

[Oscar Gracie]

That'd be like, me congratulating your book. I wrote a book first, and I know it's gonna be good because same publisher, same graphic designer.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is good giving. It is giving that, which is, like. It's weird to say when you're the first. Like, I can say it. My book cover, right. Janet McCurdy's photographer did my. My cover. So I was like, oh, it's gonna be a great cover. But it'd be. Alexa would have to say it to Michaela for it to be not so passive or whatever. So. Yeah. Yeah, like you were saying. So I thought it was interesting. But it also kind of made her. Because they both. They all say, right, we're in the lab. We're making the batches. We're in the vat. You know what I mean? Like, they all say the same thing, when in reality, that's just, like, not the case. Including me too. Right? Like, obviously. Obviously, I go to where they make it. I'm not in there making it. I found someone who made this really great product that changed my life. But maybe. I don't doubt it. Even Michaela, too. Like, I mean, I'm assuming it works, right? Because here's the thing, right? When skincare comes out, that's why I was so confident with mine, obviously. Staring at your screen. Take a break.

[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it got hate for a whole other reason. But, like, I was so confident because with mine, I did use it. So it's like, once it comes out, people are gonna know if it's bad, Right. So I would assume they do work with someone that probably does acne care systems, and they're just putting their label on it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And one of the backers of Real Actives is the same firm as Kim Kardashian Skin, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. So, yeah. So it's gonna be. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's gonna be good because they have good investors and they have good people and. But that's any celebrity thing. They just find a good product. Alex Rose not making it, but she was. You know, she's a big name. She's very big right now. Had acne. Let's do this.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. For me, I was just, like, so unimpressed because I'm like. It's so. The field itself, as far as, like, celebrity skincare, it's so much like we.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's.

[Oscar Gracie]

Everyone's got a. Every celebrity's got a skincare line at this point. And, like, some of them aren't doing that well. I think even, like, Kylie skin stopped doing as well, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she had one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Oh, Kylie had skin. Skin care. Everyone's just leaning into skincare right now because I feel like it's been the shift from, like, makeup to just, like, having good skin and, like, you know, clean girl, esthetic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

So at this point, it's, like, so oversaturated that I'm like, just another, like, celeb skincare. I'm sure it'll. It'll be, like, fine, you know, but, like. Am I gagging? No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's a good point. I guess I never. I've never gagged for skincare, I guess, because I just always had horrible skin, so I'm never like, oh, I'm gonna try this. And especially P Systems and stuff. Those never work for me. I literally. I'm telling you guys, my skincare secret tumeric bar soap. That's all I've used for five years. And I have really acne skin, so obviously it's different for different people. But it's worked. It's literally like a miracle. Like, it's the craziest thing. Like, I'm obsessed with it and it works so well. Don't clip it. I saw someone. Me and Nat Loveline weren't me. Not Loveline. Me and Tanatlovine were talking about it and someone literally clipped it. And they're like, TikTok Shop. And they put their own tumeric. I mean, I guess you can. Whatever, but I was like, this is the soap they were talking about. Mine's not off TikTok Shop. It's from Glow Skin Enhancement. I just shout out to them, but. But it works. It's really. But it is just a tumeric bar of soap. If you want to just be general about it, works wonders.

[Oscar Gracie]

Watch Alex Earl's next product is yellow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, the products aren't like Kosas is at Revolve. You know what I mean? It's like $100 for that. So. So the products are out there. That's so funny. She said, me next. I'll be like, there. I did. I tried it. People are ruthless. People Are mean. Especially in the skincare game. They're like, what? No, not you. All right, I backed out.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like she could have slayed at, like, literally at leisure that I feel like everyone always needs, like, gym

[Trisha Paytas]

clothes, especially her body and stuff. I would buy. I would 100.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, she is the, you know, Miami girl or whatever. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Did she do an alcohol? I feel like she did an alcohol, too. Maybe she had some sort of margarita and a to go or something like that.

[Oscar Gracie]

That sounds familiar, right? Oh, yeah. Sit Margs with Alex Earl. Oh, she. She was an investor with Alex Cooper.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. You're saying Sit Marks with Alex Earl is the name of it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

I thought she said she was an investor in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So she's. She's out there. Yeah. There's so many other options. Even Michaela, too. It's like, I would buy almost anything Michaela sells, but the POV is not getting me. I'm like. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, I heard them. That makeup bomb or whatever was. It won the Glamour award.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really? What is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I only know about it because it was, like, in between her boyfriend reveal video. So you had to, like, if you go from, like, one boyfriend reveal, you had a swipe, and then you got the, like, my makeup bomb won the glamour product of the year. And then he goes into, like, back to her, like, get ready with me for my date with my boyfriend, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

So just so crazy. Oh, okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Good girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. Maybe it is good. I mean, like I said, they probably have. If they have, like, investors, they probably are using quality things, but to me, it's all boring. I'd be like, if Michaela came out with, like, a cool, like, lip plumping gloss. Even that elf thing. I was trying to get her a little elf cosmetic kit during her wedding. Like, I thought that was kind of a slay. I'd buy almost anything else, but this skincare is. Is just boring. But that's someone who can't really use skincare, so I guess that's why.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, another product from an influencer that this one got me. Emma Chamberlain partnered with West Elm for this huge collection of, like, furniture and decorations. Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a random.

[Oscar Gracie]

And it's like, I think their biggest collection ever with West Elm.

[Trisha Paytas]

But what's West Elm?

[Oscar Gracie]

West Elm is, like, a furnishings and decor store. Like a grain barrel. Pottery Barn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. The same caliber? The same.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So, like, I would say kind of high end. I mean, to me, that's high end. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not Like a restoration hardware, though it's only 4,000 for a table.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's okay. So she actually does have like a bistro table. And it's like $1200 for like a small.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's expensive.

[Oscar Gracie]

She has a vanity that 700.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it cute? Now I want it. I'm like, can I get it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I really, I genuinely love it.

[Moses]

It.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I was already seated because I. Emma Chamberlain will kind of always have a hold on me. I am confused about her, I guess, because I. I am confused about where she, like, what her brand is really. Because she started out as the attainable, like, thrifty girl making her own coffee.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then now she's like the high fashion Louis Vuitton Vogue and now this like West Elm collaboration where it is pretty expensive and to also give context. So the collection itself is really cute. It's all really cute stuff. It's very unique. It's 70s, mid century. She describes it as like something you would see like in your fun, quirky aunt's home, basically. So it has that like kind of cozy charm to it, but it still has like, cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you look at it? Is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah, I came out yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you love it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I do love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you gonna do your whole house in West Elm?

[Oscar Gracie]

So I. I bought a. Well, you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Awesome.

[Oscar Gracie]

She has a whole, like, it's a wide spectrum. So I bought the one thing I bought. Actually, I bought two things. She has these coasters that are like ceramic buttons that are really cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then she has this picture slash vase that's like a pigeon. And it sounds crazy, but it's like,

[Trisha Paytas]

no, that sounds cute. I'm not seeing the pigeon.

[Oscar Gracie]

I bought those two things. And I love the furniture, but it is like expensive is. So that's why I was like, who is Emma Chamberlain for? This was just my own, like, thought process. I was like, I guess I just don't know anymore. Because she did start off as like that relatable girl. But as I was looking like, I was like, damn, I don't think I can afford this stuff because it is like a little bit high end. Like the coffee. A coffee table is over a thousand dollars. She has a sectional that is almost $4,000 dollars. And it does make sense that furniture is that price. Like I'm not clocking that. I guess it's more so like it being the Emma Chamberlain collection, making the name at this price.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, 2700 for a bed.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that picture's cute. Is that what you got me ordering? That One too.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's so cute. I didn't get the mug.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, that's so cute. With the apple and the bird.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I love this. I genuinely love her whole collection.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone know me too, actually. Oh, I want all this.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, the furniture itself, itself, people have really liked. She has a vanity that I think is the most popular piece in her collection right now. That's kind of the standout that everyone keeps pointing to because it does have that, like, 70s aesthetic with, like, the two tones of wood. I love literally everything. I just fear it is, like, so

[Trisha Paytas]

the button side table is cute. The apple. Oh, my God. Okay, wait, this is actually. It's like, so not even my style either. But I'm like, I want all this. I'm like, let's redo our house.

[Oscar Gracie]

I live for it. Like, this is aesthetic is, like, exactly like, what I want my house to be like. But again, it's Emma Chamberlain. She's younger than me, so it's marketed

[Trisha Paytas]

towards, like, Gen Z. Oh.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's also like the. The marketing, too. It's kind of been like, it's cozy for small spaces, so it's giving, like, apartment, you know? But I'm like, how many Gen Zers can afford, like, this kind of furniture and decor in their apartment?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that is interesting. That's a good point. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

So that's. I just have been wondering and, like, what is Emma Chamberlain's brand right now? I guess. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess it's just like, she's just. She's just in demand. I guess they're not even thinking about that probably. Right. Because it's like, even Louis Vuitton, right? Like, is her Gen Z people buying Louis Vuitton, but kind of like Zendaya too, right? She's, like, young, but it's like, those are the people buying Louis Vuitton, but I guess they're the girls, so they're like, well, let's just give her a West Ham club.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And she is, like a tastemaker. She's kind of evolved past. There was the millennial version of Emma Chamberlain, I guess is this girl named Tavi Gunvalson. I don't know if you know her, but she was like, a fashion blogger when she was like, I think she was like, 14. So it was like, really cutting edge. Like this young girl having her own, like, aesthetic and such, like, a clear vision of what she likes. And she was just like, it was like the old school, like, literally just writing blogs. And then she kind of became like a fashion influencer again. Not really on YouTube, but, like, just writing blogs, and she was at fashion shows and stuff. She ended up. Ended up, ironically, being in. She ended up being Gossip Girl in the Gossip Girl reboot. That's kind of an aside.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, just the voice.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, she was, like. Her character was Gossip Girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, got it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

But she's, like, a little bit younger than me. Like, a couple years younger than me. So I just. I. I kind of equate Emma Chamberlain as that, I guess, kind of just, like, tastemaker, because she's not really making, like, YouTube videos anymore, but she's still, like, out and about. She's friends with, like, Sabrina Carpenter. She's friends with, like, all these famous people. She's in, I guess, now doing movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's just, like, not influencer anymore, and I don't think she's, like, relatable anymore. I think it's just, like, she's like, I'm past all this now. I am model, and I am spokesperson, and that's it.

[Oscar Gracie]

And she does have a cool aesthetic. I think she has, like, a quirky, cool girl vibe. It kind of. Her collection kind of gives me, like, upscale urban outfitters. It's like urban outfitters, but $1,000 more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, Totally. As. Yeah, yeah, it's cute. This, like, side table's cute. And all the little apple stuff, it's like. Yeah, it's. It's giving. School teacher.

[Oscar Gracie]

It is very that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But school teachers can't afford it because they don't get paid enough. I was like, who are we?

[Oscar Gracie]

That's where I was, like, so taken it back. And West Elm, it is, like, a little bit pricier of a store, too. But the furniture, too, it's, like, not real wood. It's, like, veneer wood. So it's like, you would think it'd be a little bit more affordable, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's how Gucci and, like, Chanel, too. They, like, charge 3100 for, like, fake diamonds, fake pearls. You're like, we're literally paying that for the name, and that's what people are doing. They're paying for them. A Chamberlain and I guess, West Elm name, I guess you're like, we know this is kind of, like, not the best quality, but, yeah, it's like, at

[Oscar Gracie]

least it's above ikea. But that's kind of what I would think of Emma. I guess she surpassed it. I would think of her as, like. Like, an ikea. Makes sense for, like, her audience's price range, you know? Or, like, Even Urban Outfitters, because it is like cheaper and still like similar to this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Oscar Gracie]

But yeah, yeah, it is interesting. I was wondering, like, I just remember her so vividly. She was very influential for me from the jump. Like, she made me want to drink an iced coffee and have a scrunchie. I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that what she was known for?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she was known for the scrunchie.

[Trisha Paytas]

She had like a $40 scrunchie or something and everyone was like pissed about it.

[Oscar Gracie]

And she had like the big like teddy. Teddy bear fur, like zip up jacket or something. She was just like so influential to me. Yeah, she was very gaggy to me. And now I guess she's just. She's evolved. She's evolved past.

[Trisha Paytas]

I only think of her as hanging out with David Dobrik back when I was friends with him and her being 17 and like, why are we hanging out with stuff? Yeah, what is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Didn't she get. He put like a lizard on her or something?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he was, yeah, all that weird. Remember, he's like, oh, Emma's gonna come hang out. And I was just like, how old is she? And he's like, something like, I don't think I want to hang out with the 17 year old in my apartment. That seems a little diabolical.

[Oscar Gracie]

I remember when Tana booked her for Tanacon as one of the guys, like one of the. The meet and greets and I was like, how do I get into the Emma Chamberlain meet and greet?

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you go?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I. It was like a lottery or something. And I don't think Emma ever did hers.

[Trisha Paytas]

The amount of people Tanacon got was actually crazy impressive. Like if she would have obviously, like, she was like 19, obviously. Like, I don't blame her, but obviously. But like, it's like if she would have had like the right people put that, that would have been successful because all the guests she got, it was like, like meet and greets. Like, it was. It was Shane, it was David, it was. It was like Emma. It was literally, everybody is actually so insane. And I was like, that's amazing for a 19 year old who was only making videos for a few years that everybody wants to rally behind you on the same weekend as Vidcon. It's really impressive. And I'm like, girl, do it again, but with like ag or something. You know what I mean? Ag. Is that the right one?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah. Golden Boys Live nation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think that could be everything. People would be so gagged for it. But yeah, crazy that that was all that Emma Chamberlain, of all people.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love seeing I. That is the cool thing about just like the Internet, just seeing people, how the evolution happens of it all. It's. It's pretty impressive.

[Oscar Gracie]

And I would Emma, get me on that PR list because I do love everything. I wish I could afford it, girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me send that. We have a house to furnish.

[Oscar Gracie]

We truly, truly any furniture company. I will dedicate whatever you want.

[Trisha Paytas]

Vlog over there. There.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I'll have it in the background here.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just everywhere.

[Oscar Gracie]

You see me next week at the Chamberlain Vanities.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll take it. We will 100% take it. That's so funny.

[Oscar Gracie]

I kept seeing that on TikTok too. It was like people kept being like they didn't know how to get through the workday with like, the Emma Chamberlain West Elm collection and also the summer house. Bravo, Tee. Every TikTok I saw was the two

[Trisha Paytas]

things I was so out of it. My TikTok, unfortunately, is clavicular and wolviki. I like Woah. Vintage Vicki. Have you been seeing it? My entire. Everything. Clavicular. Clavicular. I was like, what the hell? Where did my algorithm come from all of a sudden? But it's because, well, Vicki's in it and Wo. Vicky is kind of everything. I love her.

[Oscar Gracie]

I. I am confused about w. Vicki because her tweets are crazy. Like, her tweets be a little homophobic and nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

But then she's with Harry Daniels, so I don't know, like, if it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it, like, what's the homophobicness of it?

[Oscar Gracie]

She.

[Moses]

I think she's becoming religious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she is religious. She's very religious. She's like, if you're letting people have sex with you before marriage, like that's, you know, which, I mean, I guess is a good notion, I suppose, but.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh yeah, because I. Look, I just googled, woah, Vicky homophobic. And then Prez Hilton, I confronted, well, Vicky about her homophobia.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, okay, so she has a little bit, but hangs out with Harry Daniels.

[Oscar Gracie]

So that's why I'm like, I'm getting mixed signals.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I didn't know. I didn't know the problem. She seems sweet. That's why I was like, oh, she seems sweet. But.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, a year ago, well, Vicky kicked off her soccer team for being homophobic. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what?

[Oscar Gracie]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I do remember this. I think like a year or two ago, she was starting a podcast and asked me to be on it. I was actually really excited and I think someone did tell me. And I was like, oh, maybe I should. I think there might have been. I don't know, maybe she changed. Okay, maybe I'm on the wrong side of this because also she had me like in clavicular for a minute. I was like, well, he seems kind of nice and sweet.

[Oscar Gracie]

And I blame Harry Daniels for that because I was like, that actually is funny. And I know there was one clip of clavicular or being like, going up to someone and be like, oh, you're by yourself, maxing. And I did think that was funny, but I still will hate clavicular, I fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Had to like, search why we hate killer. I was like, why do we hate? Yeah, cuz you need that reminder. I was like, well, he seems. He seems like nice to wo. Vicky. He seems nice to me. But then I saw one diabol where he was like telling somebody who didn't blend their. He's like, what's going on with your forehead? And she. Oh, I didn't blend. He's like, maybe you should go fix that. And he like. And shake me. Leave. He's like, yeah, go, leave and come back. I was like, okay, that makes me. But then like with Wicky, he's like, very sweet. He's like, oh, you know, you're very beautiful. And I was too shy to say. I was like, oh, the boys will trick you.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why traitors do not trust a pretty face or a guy named Rob. Twice that for sure. You know, I learned that so. And clavicular too. If he is on Traders, I'm sure somebody would be believing him. He's only 20 because what, he wanted to like, marry Wobicky or something? I don't know, something. I'm 25. And he's like, oh, I'm 20. He's like, I wish I would have met you five years sooner. And like, okay, but you would have

[Oscar Gracie]

been 15, aging like the gigantic at the bottom of the ocean.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoa, wait, who? Oh, oh, you think he looks older? Wait, he looks young.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, he doesn't look 20.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it's in my.

[Moses]

The maxing.

[Trisha Paytas]

We. Oh, we think. I thought he looked young. Oh, we think he looks older.

[Oscar Gracie]

I. He does not look 20.

[Trisha Paytas]

If he really.

[Oscar Gracie]

How old is Harry Daniels?

[Trisha Paytas]

20? I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Harry Daniels is 22 and Harry Daniels looks like way younger than.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really, you think? I think Harry Daniels with facial kind makes me think of him as older, but.

[Oscar Gracie]

But clavicular looks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Okay, maybe. I don't know. I guess I looked at him, like, wow, he does look like a baby. But maybe. Maybe you're right. I mean, he seems that buckle. I saw the one of him, like, smashing his cheekbones. I'm like, okay, this is weird, but he's obviously got arrested. We know he's probably mad, but you know me, I just get suckered in by. I'm like, oh. Even while, like, yeah, I don't know. I was kind of like, oh, she seems sweet, but that's my whole timeline thing.

[Moses]

Now there's people that are like, they watch him for the comedy of it, so now it's becoming more of a joke, and they use his lingo and what he says as a joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now I do know. What is it? God, what was it? He was frame logged by the ASU frat boy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who talking about Tana.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I saw that Tik tok. That's my tik tok thing. It's just like, clavicular gets frame mogged by AZU frat member. And I was like, what is happening here? It's just some guy that's, like, really big and like. But I love that I'm going to frame Auggie.

[Moses]

Something about the cortisol level levels.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't see that one. What's that? I think Tana.

[Moses]

Did somebody upset him? He just doesn't want his cortisol level.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Tana did tell me that one. Yeah, I was like, the cortisol. Yeah, I like it. I like this new terminology. Not him, but just, like, don't suck.

[Oscar Gracie]

You know what I mean? Like, if you just were not racist and homophobic and transphobic and just terrible, like, you would be funny. But, like, come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's almost like the new IT thing for a lot of these popular streamers. Not our side.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, see, that's the problem, though, is that. That, like, this is how they invade mainstream media because, like, they get clipped and stuff, and then people find it, like, camp and funny, and then it becomes endearing.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is like, we lose.

[Oscar Gracie]

We have to also be clipping all the racist stuff where you're saying, like, he loves Hitler and says the N word.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, was that clinicular?

[Oscar Gracie]

That's clavicular, honey. So. I know, but see, that's not getting clipped. It's always the him being kind of funny, so. Oh, gosh, I just can't forget.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Until you got to change. Change, like, and he could. That's the annoying thing.

[Moses]

Yeah, he's young. I mean, a lot of people. 20. He's young.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But also with great power. Comes great responsibility if you're like the

[Oscar Gracie]

number one Kick streamer and that's what you're using your problem number one for. He's really. Now he's got. He got booted, but by Kick after the arrest. Okay. And shooting the alligator.

[Moses]

But yeah, when he gets kicked off Kick, you know you're a criminal.

[Trisha Paytas]

The barrel goes there, Right.

[Moses]

Yes, you're a criminal.

[Oscar Gracie]

Jimmy got an offer to go on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Jimmy, I don't know if he turned it down.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, he turned it down. He said, I can't do it. I'm like, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good for him.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. All right. Kick is like the Ka Asylum for men.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love when you go on the Kaya song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it Kaya?

[Oscar Gracie]

It.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's technically Kaya, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Technically Kaya, if you reference. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I guess you're.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, right. The other highway. So crazy. Should I check my Kris Jenner, if anyone. I've been so excited about it. Okay, let's see.

[Moses]

You are so. So Shadow banned on Twitter. Like it was impossible for me to find. I know and follow you. If I search her name, it will

[Oscar Gracie]

not bring up her profile all the time, too. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trish Crave was the first one to pop up. Literally. I posted 29 minutes ago. Church Crave. 21 minutes ago. I said, can someone merge me and Christiana together and the pink moon things? Oh, I said, Reddit for the pod. Need it for the pod in the next 30 minutes. And Trish Crave was the first.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, there you go. Where's Christiana?

[Moses]

Well, Troy Bolton is the two of you together.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's pretty good, though, with the short hair.

[Moses]

Oh, you saw it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let me see. Let me see. What my other things. Okay. Oh. Oh, I see. Okay. People just kind of put us together next to a pink moon.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, that's fierce, though. Oh, you as Kim. I actually love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow. We kind of look. Oh, my God. I kind of actually. This one I love.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wait, is that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think my face is. Yeah, I think they merged our faces. That's my profile picture. At least on Twitter, no one's watching.

[Moses]

Mer, if you merge all the Kardashians

[Trisha Paytas]

together, I should do tonight for the pink moon. Yes. Wait, wait, that was. I think that might be the winner. That's from Jazz. Wow. I'm super high of all these people. Oh, wow. Okay. So some people merge. I see what they did.

[Oscar Gracie]

They.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So they. Yes. Okay. It must be an app, because I saw some other people. Oh, no, it's all Jazz. Okay. Jazz is like, wow, which one of

[Moses]

them is going to be a profile picture?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that pink moon one was pretty. Like the merge of us two is the.

[Moses]

Yeah, that's ambiguous enough. People will be like, wait a minute, who is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it looks kind of like me. Yeah, it looks a little like Chris.

[Oscar Gracie]

Looks like you in cosplay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Wow. All right. We're. We're putting as a profile picture with a feet womb. The energy is flowing right through our toes. Feels so good. We love it. I was just reacting to Clavicular for an hour straight on Patreon. I am like, curious. But like you said, we shouldn't promote it because the. That seems pro. All of it sounds prominent. I know. I just wish him off.

[Oscar Gracie]

Tell me about it. There is funny as. Like, there are camp aspects to him. I just wish he wasn't like, horrific. Yeah, it's. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's he at now? Where's he streaming? He's just.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think prison. Is he still in prison?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, he's streaming from prison. Is he? No, he just got.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, he's off. He's off kick.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so what do you go after?

[Moses]

Well, he must be still in Twitch or something, you know.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I don't think he can stream on Twitch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, he. He has posted on his Instagram story.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I guess streaming their life. The live streaming is so crazy to me. I don't really understand it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Live. Now tune in to 20v1 with Ed Matthews hosted by Clavicular on. On Kick. I guess he's back on Kick even

[Trisha Paytas]

for promotion for like my book tour. They're like, would you want to do any live streams? I'm like, I mean, I guess it's like Kaisanette or something. I mean, but what does that mean? I just go sit and I'm like, hey, everyone.

[Oscar Gracie]

O do Pokiman. Because she always gives like the best presents.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Presence is crazy. Is she streaming a lot? Like, is she streaming?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she just. I mean, she did Cat's Eye last year and then she just had another girl group. I think she. Her thing is like girl groups, which is fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Is it say now or girl set or something? But. And yeah, she gave them the. What's that bracelet? The.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Cartier.

[Oscar Gracie]

The one with the little like clover looking thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Van Cleef.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she has everyone. Van Cleaves.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's real Bouge. Oh, my God. And they just sit next to her on the stream and just answer questions.

[Oscar Gracie]

Cat's eye. They Ate they mukbanged. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, maybe Pokemon. Maybe I will. Like, if it was like a girl streamer.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. You gotta go into a safe space.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know if I could do a guy one.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, like, Pokey is a good one. Vanilla Maze. Yeah, like one of the cool girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, let me know. Girl streamers out there. They're doing a press run late October, early November. I will be there.

[Oscar Gracie]

I forgot to bring this up last time, but did you see Drew Ski's Erica Kirk sketch?

[Trisha Paytas]

Drew Ski is Erica Kirk. I don't know Drew Ski, do I? Or maybe. I don't know.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it? We never talk about Eric Kirk on here. That's so crazy.

[Moses]

What is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's kind of funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, Drew Ski, I mean, it's fine.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know. He is a influencer and, like, comedian. He cosplayed as Erica Kirk for a sketch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no.

[Oscar Gracie]

And this is what he looked like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, literally thought it was me for a second. I knew you're gonna say that.

[Moses]

I knew some. Some of the top comments was like, do Trisha next.

[Oscar Gracie]

I knew you were gonna say that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll take that more. Because people were. People used to take me a lot. Eric Kirk be like, this look like. I was like, no, that may be more so I'll take that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Drew Ski is. Identifies as.

[Oscar Gracie]

He's a guy, he's a comedian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

More than. I'd rather it look like black male comedian. So he does it to be, like, funny. Like, he did a sketch that went viral where he cosplayed as, like, a white conservative man. And he went to, like, all these conservative spaces and, like, was just making videos there, like, and people were thinking,

[Trisha Paytas]

oh, he does public trolling.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, exactly. Public trolling.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's like, I would. I wish I. Even back in my day, I could never public troll. I'd be too embarrassed. But I love that. So where was he?

[Oscar Gracie]

So he did the round. So he posted this video, How Conservative women in America Act. It got over. This was a couple days ago, too. It was probably more, but at the time it got 3.4 million views on Tik Tok, 61 million views on X, and 41.2 million views on Instagram.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

And he went on to, like, a. A firework lit stage, like, the sparks coming behind him. He did a press conference with fake news outlet. It.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like real people, though.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, with real people. Like, out in the street. Yeah. He performed Born in the USA by Bruce Springsteen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

And Katie, one of Katy Perry songs from Teenage Dream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

He gave an interview clutching the holy Bible, talking about God and then he went to get a start a complicated Starbucks order at a drive thru holding a small Pomeranian. Oh, and then he did Pilates.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I love it.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's hilarious.

[Trisha Paytas]

So the whole thing was an Eric parody or is there like a white girl parody?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's kind of just like it could like. Yeah, that kind.

[Moses]

That he was mimicking her one to one. Like he was doing. Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is that what she did? I don't know.

[Moses]

Like she likes her walking on the stage with the fireworks.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, the fireworks is crazy. We all agree. That's like a little what's happening. I remember the first time seeing it. I'm like, I'm so confused. That is crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was. Yeah, it was wild. I. It just went completely viral. Some people were like really offended. Like, how could you do that to a widow? But guess who defended him. Matt Owens.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh,

[Oscar Gracie]

not far off.

[Trisha Paytas]

Matt R.

[Oscar Gracie]

To defend him.

[Moses]

Maybe he thought he was white because he was in white space.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to think of what side that is. If he. Okay, right. So he's trying to, to be on. Okay. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

He said that he liked the skit and was funny, but nobody asked. This is a caveat. But everyone defending this skit also needs to keep the same energy for all comedy. Don't go crying next time a bit upsets you personally. If jokes shake you to your soul so deeply, consider that you may be an emotionally undeveloped human not fit for this life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, first of all, okay, a parody of an over eccentric woman is very different than making fun of domestic violence.

[Oscar Gracie]

Someone who's also like in the majority in every sense of the word.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right, right, right.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's like if you go and you're hitting below the bell, maybe people who have some kind of disabilities or minorities

[Trisha Paytas]

or like domestic abuse situations. Yeah, like that's women just hating everybody and not being funny about it. This was funny. This was. Because it's like, you know, obviously people can be sensitive to the issue, whatever, but like obviously parody, obviously, like funny.

[Oscar Gracie]

Over the top.

[Trisha Paytas]

Over the top. Yeah. And it's again, like you said, the majority. I think everybody, no matter what side you're on, is kind of like, this is a little, this is a little bit of a spectacle that we're watching and you know, and he's funny and you're not. And that's, that's. Yeah, there's just nothing. I think I Hate when people insert themselves into something when they've been, like, canceled or problematic and they're like, okay, let's keep the same energy. It's like, no, no. But you're not the same the case

[Moses]

because you're saying, like, if you find this funny, you better find me funny. I'm like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Or when someone sees someone make, like, a comeback and like, okay, now my turn to come back. Not you. We did not forget what you did. Like, it's you.

[Oscar Gracie]

You didn't think it's so funny when everyone's showing the photos before all the alleged.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're suing people.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, you're blocking people. So why isn't that funny? You keep that energy then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

If you're all about it, keep that energy and don't be blocking anyone who's making jokes about the way you look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Juski does Matt Rife next

[Moses]

he gives clificular. Is that his name? Energy.

[Oscar Gracie]

He does Met Rife.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Without the charm.

[Moses]

It's like he's trying to comedy Max here

[Trisha Paytas]

again. That term is great. I love the maxing because Natana said. I mean, I do like the maxing of it all, but we can't use it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

D. I don't know who's worst. Clavicular. Matt Rife.

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess I have to go with clavicular just because of what is said.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kicked off everywhere and in prison, me being like, who's worse? Matt R. To me is always just like, bottom.

[Oscar Gracie]

But yeah, I fear. I fear. But I would say clavicular is funnier, I guess, in that rife. So

[Moses]

he's not a comedian, literally. Right, right, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's really funny. I didn't it. That's funny. I didn't and I didn't see that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, I had to end on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can we make it positive? Can we make the bad positive?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think this might just be another plane hitting your tower. Because Fruit Love island creator threatens to shut down the series after mass Tik Tok removals.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, Tik Tok's removing them?

[Oscar Gracie]

I didn't think you would be so g. But you really are. Oh, God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why? Why? Why? No, those are my peace era. That's like my peacefulness at night.

[Moses]

Why? Why are they removing it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, why? That was my cleansing at night. I loved it so much. It was so unpromatic.

[Oscar Gracie]

The. Well, the account behind it that the AI Cinema 021 has been complaining because they keep getting mass reported and then taken down own.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because why? Who's reporting it for what?

[Oscar Gracie]

Anti AI people I think are reporting it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Okay. And is my pink moon AI? Should I not post that? Is it AI maybe seem fast?

[Moses]

No, but you have so many apps that merge.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna say we don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

It doesn't look like it because I think the moon is the real photo of the pink moon. It's not like AI generated pink.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, so I think that's fine. Versus, like, I mean, the fruit videos. The whole cartoon doing is wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but they're just, you know, they're harmless. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

He said that the they. He also has been putting posting them to YouTube too, and they've been like mass reported and taken down on there as well. And fan. The fans of it, me and Zara

[Trisha Paytas]

Larson, the two of you.

[Oscar Gracie]

It says fans have been struggling to find out where to watch the full episodes because everyone where that they're supposed to go to watch them, they end up being taken down.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't seen them in a while.

[Oscar Gracie]

He had one post that said no more. Fruit island was a good run and the creator said that it is most likely going to be cancelled.

[Trisha Paytas]

When was this published?

[Oscar Gracie]

This was. Let me check the dates.

[Moses]

You just need to go on kick

[Oscar Gracie]

the 29th. So that was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's an early April Fool's joke. I mean, I think this is not real. I think you're like April Fools. Just kidding, y'. All. The fruits are back. There's just no way. There's no way. It's like the most popular show on TikTok. But you know what? This is one example of AI imitating or real life imitating AI because I have seen people like redo this with like bananas on their head and strawberries. Like, real people are recreating this. So keep recreating it so we don't lose this fine art of the banana having a strawberry at birth. Like, I think we need to keep seeing it. I love it and I love that people are reenacting it. So if AI is going to be shut down, let's reenact it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Or like a company unwell maybe unwell goes into animation and let's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

If we. That's actually a good idea. Why don't you just sell this, like, idea that everyone loves and have like real animators and real writers work on it because clearly there's a market for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love Fruit Island. Petition for

[Moses]

Fruit Island.

[Trisha Paytas]

This seems up their alley. They love to take something problematic and try and make it good.

[Moses]

So we'll see, they were just canceled. This is the new canceled.

[Oscar Gracie]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I like it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, they got the money. They got the funds to hire some

[Oscar Gracie]

people, just have some animators work on it. Then we have a morally ethical fruit island.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That we can all enjoy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. So we ended on a positive note.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, T. You really turned it around. We found a way that energy is just.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's good today. It's good and it's kept going. I still feel, like, very whimsical and very just, like, good. And I have a wig on and I'm keeping the wig on all day long, even through my dance class today, so. Well, you guys, thank you so much. We have been. We were earlier today, too. We were earlier. We were on the dot. Not to say I don't like when I have a little snack in between, but I feel like it was good to start early today. One time. Not all the time, but we can do it.

[Oscar Gracie]

But we are early girls, so it helps. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We got a lot to do. We do a lot in our time. We wake up to when we do this. Yeah. We're what?

[Oscar Gracie]

Time maxing.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are time maxing. Oh, that is a good term. Thank you guys for being here. Check out my lucky girl vlog on one side. L4MJ. Check out Oscar Gracie's vlogs at Oscar Gracie. Look for that Wes Elm sponsorship on his next video.

[Oscar Gracie]

Emma Chamberlain, please.

[Trisha Paytas]

And check out Moses cooking videos. Osescookingvideos. Is that what it is? Just oseskokayvideos? Hey, he put up a steak. What's your next one? Are you doing a cooking video today? So you'd love to do it during our Patreon time?

[Moses]

Yeah. It might be chicken and potatoes in the oven.

[Trisha Paytas]

The famous chicken and potato recipe. It's very, very good. So go check that out. You guys, we love you. Thank you for being here. I do wish everyone really great energy in April and really take advantage of the pink moon going into our floral moon. There's just lots of beautiful moons happening. And we love you. Energy is everything. That's what Albert Einstein said. And we'll see you in the next one. Thanks, guys. Guys, bye.