Justin Bieber & Sabrina Carpenter Backlash + Influencers RUIN Coachella | Just Trish Ep. 267

Summary

Just Trish Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode: Draft Episode for Apr 14, 2026
Date: April 14, 2026
Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-host: Oscar Gracey (and Malibu/Moses)

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Overview:

This episode of the “Just Trish” podcast delivers Trisha Paytas’ signature blend of unfiltered commentary, humor, and pop culture insights, joined by Emmy-winning co-host Oscar Gracey and regular contributor Malibu (Moses). The episode’s central focus is the swirling energy before Coachella 2026—drama around influencer trips, celebrity appearances, and the economic circus behind the festival. Trisha and Oscar blend Internet trend breakdowns with personal anecdotes, vlogging updates, and extended tangents about everything from red carpet fashion to reality shows and YouTuber side hustles.

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Major Themes & Key Discussion Points:

1. The Pre-Coachella Hysteria

• The team discusses how Coachella has escalated into an influencer mega-event with logistical chaos, last-minute brand trip cancellations, and the immense costs (even ordinary attendees shelling out thousands).
• Trisha’s take on the FOMO: “It's like all the legends just gone in one.” (00:13)
• Dramatic “Biebercella” hype (Justin Bieber headlining for the first time in years), and why his presence is seen as historic compared to other recent headliners like Lorde or Chappell Roan (14:05–16:53).
• Oscar: “People kind of want like the Justin Bieber’s eras tour moment, you know, and this is the place in time to do it because who knows if he'll end up doing his own tour.” (16:59)

2. Influencer Logistics & Brand Drama

• Numerous influencers are scrambling for brand invites; sudden Coachella trip cancellations went viral, though the group is skeptical about which brands are truly to blame (27:36–34:49).
• Reports of influencers being canceled from brand trips just days in advance, including the rumor about gender-based exclusions in influencer houses.
• Satirical take on “mass cancellations” and “class wars” in influencer group chats (35:54–36:37).
• Trisha: “If you really want something, just put it out there.” (40:44)
• Airbnb/Coachella pricing insanity: $1,200+ for laundry rooms, desperate influencer pleas on TikTok (41:01–41:57).

3. The Culture of Vlogging, Content & Sponsorship

• All hosts share struggles and hopes around getting brand deals for their vlogs.
• Trisha: “I see Tana getting these sponsored. I was like, oh, I'm inspired to vlog.” (08:07)
• Discussion on the role of Linktree for modern influencers, plus anecdotes about “crossover” content and old-school YouTube collaborations (08:57–10:23).
• Manifesting and the evolving role of “power of Just Trish" for career opportunities.

4. Red Carpet & Celebrity Gossip

• Extensive talk about red carpet events, PR packages, and the inside mechanics of events like the Euphoria premiere and Hacks launch.
• Trisha shares her behind-the-scenes stories of styling, interactions with publicists, and social media etiquette about top billing among celebrities (29:25–31:02).
• Debates about paparazzi access, subscription paywalls for red carpet photo download (68:19–68:39).

5. Coachella’s Celebrity Ecosystem

• Oscar’s “zoologist” lens on influencer behaviors at Coachella (22:35), whether it’s hustling for free perks or going overboard with last-minute panic for content opportunities.
• Details about “gifting suites,” brand passes, lounges, and over-the-top influencer perks at the festival (42:41–44:52).
• Hilarious riffs on YouTube OGs, collab culture, and Monetizing/Living-the-Content (06:20).
• Speculation about surprise guests, influencer VIP drama, and inside debriefs on who made the biggest splash (130:12–131:29).

6. Internet Trends, Reality, & Culture

• Bulging social media corners: hilarious and candid breakdown of trends like “catching print” (a.k.a. gray sweatpants content)—equality in objectification, and whether women’s public scrutiny of men’s bodies is now “reparations” (104:02–114:24).
• Celebrity weight loss discourse: body shaming persists regardless of someone’s size, as discussed through lenses like Jonah Hill, Meghan Trainor, and Melissa McCarthy (115:42–116:28).
• Love on the Spectrum update: the breakup of Abby and David, and how reality TV “it girls” navigate sudden stardom and personal change (83:06–90:28).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trisha on influencer transport dangers:
  “This would be awful if something happened… It's me not getting top billing… I'm gonna be 'David Dobrik, Hasan and others.'” (00:00–00:23 / 29:25–29:29)
• On sudden brand cancellations:
  “Everyone's acting as if going to Coachella is like getting on the Mayflower…like the grand pilgrimage.” – Oscar (18:39)
• On ‘Biebercella’ and Coachella hype:
  “Justin Bieber is more like legendary because he's just been around so long and, like, has so much history and events.” – Trisha (15:21)
• On content hustle:
  “Cooking's the way to go. So we're all, we're all looking. We're all there before anyone's like, Trisha, help Oscar. If I get some, of course I'll always do the overflow…” (09:35)
• On top billing obsession:
  “If you're just, like, lumped in, you don't even get, like, your own Instagram post, like, in Memoriam.” – Oscar (31:02)
• Catch print trend:
  “Girls just discovered that you can kind of judge a man's penis size by that thing swinging in their pants.” – Oscar (104:36)
• On red carpet faux pas:
  “Why would y'all tell me my cheeks are out on this family photo shoot? …I don't know. I just don't know.” – Trisha (109:01)
• Brand new influencer CEO culture:
  “Understand just how crazy that is because normally to get to a C-suite of a company, you have to have years of growth and experience… but now… companies are just skipping that and hiring creators.” (98:57)
• On “cursed” TikTok energy:
  “Mentioning a name, singing a song… That was crazy.” – Trisha (126:53–127:14)

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Important Timestamps

• Intro / PJ/Coachella Influence & Tax Day: 00:00–01:35
• Tick Tick Boom & Andrew Garfield Chat: 01:35–03:11
• Vlogging Sponsorships and Manifesting: 05:58–09:35
• Linktree, Patreon & Content Collab Talk: 09:55–12:35
• Coachella Predictions and Justin Bieber Hype: 13:38–16:53
• Brand trip cancellations & influencer panic: 27:36–34:49
• Coachella Cost Breakdowns & Brand Pass Drama: 41:01–44:41
• Body Positivity and Reality TV Gossip: 115:42–116:28
• Catch Print / Gray Sweatpants Trend: 104:02–114:24
• Love on the Spectrum Breakup: 83:06–90:28
• Closing: Best Coachella Outfits / Predictions: 130:04–131:38

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Additional Highlights

• Recurrent in-jokes:
  • Reference to manifesting career moves and brand deals by “putting it out there.”
  • “Top billing” as a metaphor for influencer status anxiety.
  • Self-aware jabs at influencer perks and content hustle.
• Red carpet chaos:
  • Trisha lovingly roasts her own PR stumbles and outfit emergencies.
  • Real talk on social hierarchy even among Internet celebrities.
• Reality check:
  • Oscar’s bemused view of influencer culture, describing it as “being a zoologist, like, studying animals.”
  • Trisha’s blend of self-deprecation and genuine hype for her own and her peers’ wins.

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Tone & Style

Raucous, fast-paced, playful, unfiltered, and self-referential, with rapid digressions, meta-commentary on influencer realities, and frank discussions about the business (and absurdity) of content creation in 2026. The dialogue is authentic, with regular callbacks, genuine support among co-hosts, and frequent breaks for laughter and pop culture trash talk.

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Conclusion

This “Just Trish” episode is a pop culture time capsule: full of sharp takes on the current Internet ecosystem, influencer festival culture, and the evolving state of celebrity and content monetization. Trisha and Oscar’s chemistry shines, with Malibu adding candid, left-field insights throughout—a perfect primer for anyone who wants a window into the delirious, often absurd world of digital stardom on the eve of Coachella 2026.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you, when I took a PJ from Coachella to New York and Hasan was on there and David Dobrik, I remember just thinking, like, at the time, which is why I don't like to take PJs, is like, this would be awful if it, like something happened. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Craver]

Because it's like all the legends just gone in one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, you know, that's my legacy era.

[Oscar Craver]

And then we lose that whole group of influencers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's not even that. It's me not getting, like, top billing. You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to be David Dober Hassan and others, and that's it. That's how I. No, no. Her name is Trish. She's got the Gossip, Filthy Rich, Riddy and Pink, Hot Topic Queen, and that's what everybody thinks. She's just straight. Hello and welcome to the Just Trish podcast. I hope you have the best week ever. Manifesting for everyone in the comments who's like, I need a great week. This is gonna be your best week ever. I believe it. We're in April. We are April 15th. Oh, tax day. Oh, sorry. Maybe it's not gonna be a rest week ever. I take it back. Well, get through it. Taxes. Godspeed. You can't avoid taxes.

[Oscar Craver]

No.

[Malibu]

Or death.

[Trisha Paytas]

Taxes. Or death. Is that what they say? What is the saying?

[Malibu]

Two things are certain in life, Death and taxes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But one only happens once. Death only happens once. Wasn't that the song, like 30, 90, 30 from tick tick Boom. Remember, they're singing Happy Birthday. You just want to. There's something about taxes and birthday, but it only happens once in your life.

[Malibu]

I guess it makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know?

[Oscar Craver]

No, nothing about it.

[Malibu]

I think maybe that. Maybe that.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Wait, can I look at it? I'm so sorry, but it's actually gonna bug me because it's one of my favorite lines. You know, I used to love Tick Tick Boom. You know why I like Tick Tick Boom? Many guesses.

[Oscar Craver]

Andrew Garfield, Am I right?

[Trisha Paytas]

How did you know that reference, though? How did you know the reference? How do you know Tick Tick Boom. He.

[Oscar Craver]

Wasn't he nominated for something, was he?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I love that you know that. Like, I feel like that's just not even anything you would know in your sphere at all.

[Oscar Craver]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Was it a big movie?

[Oscar Craver]

It was nominated for at least a Golden Globe. Yes. Him and Vanessa Hudgens were at the Golden Globes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you kind of know what I was talking about.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, I want to know Tick tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boom. Okay. Wow. I thought it was like, really niche, but I guess not. Okay, freeze the frame stuff to take time out. Years are getting shorter. Don't. Oh. Don't panic. Don't jump ship. Can't fight it like taxes. At least it happens only once in your life. They're singing. Okay. I knew it. God, I love it. Well, I love Andrew Garfield in it. I actually am not too familiar with John Larson, but it made me like him after that. I just didn't. I don't know much about him other than he created Rent and died too young.

[Malibu]

But we should watch it again.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so. I was really obsessed with it. That whole year was the Andrew Garfield. That's why I saw Spider Man.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wish I never saw it. I just don't like Spider man and my kids love Spider Man. Before I forget, the Spider man book. Is that.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, that's part of me winning Malibu over. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that's what I thought. So she came down in the playroom and she saw it. She was like. And I was like, wait, I think. I think Oscar was to give it. And then she's like, where's Oscar? And then obviously when. Yeah, okay, that's what I thought. I didn't want to tell her though, in case it wasn't for her. Well, she just saw the Spidey verse and she was just like, oh, okay, we'll make that. Because I was like, well, this week. Okay. Anyways, hi. Welcome to the Dash Trish podcast. You guys, my memoir, Crying on the Kitchen Floor is available for pre order now. I will be going on a book tour. I think there's like signed copies available. I think people are pre ordering signed copies. I'm signing copies.

[Malibu]

So I saw somebody in Australia saying, it's already sold out over there. Okay, so you better.

[Trisha Paytas]

We can print more. Maybe, I don't know, maybe the sign designer limited, because, you know, I got those boxes and I've been signing my little hardware. I have three months to finish these signed copies and I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm gonna do it. But thank you guys for all of you guys who pre ordered. We love you so much. Check out my main channel, Blonde Sandal for mj. I'm posting vlogs like no other. I have a very exciting 24 hours in new York vlog coming. Because by the time you guys see this, I will have already come and gone to New York. I'll already be back. Okay, so there is a 24 hour vlog there something very exciting happening. Jimmy even texted me about say. He's like, oh, is this for this? I'm like, wait, nobody knows. I'm. How did you know? He's like, oh, you had me edit something out of Not Loveline a while ago before I even. Wow. He knows everything. He knows all the deep, dark secrets. You guys check out Oscar Gracie's vlogs. He is making life happen. You're.

[Oscar Craver]

You're.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have. We haven't seen each other all weekend. I was like, who are you? How's life? What's happening? You look like a different person. You got a haircut.

[Oscar Craver]

Three days. Yeah.

[Malibu]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're so fresh. Yeah, I love this. I've been seeing statements on Oscar Crave about that. You've been giving. I was like, wow, there's so much happening.

[Oscar Craver]

Kind of not a lot really.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're giving exclusive photos. You're giving exclusive statements. I'm like, save that for here. How about save the statements for here?

[Oscar Craver]

Reaches out first.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he does reach out first.

[Oscar Craver]

Yes. Like you have a statement on this. And then I. Oh, he does, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's so funny. Just about like, anything. Or specifically the Cat's Eye, I think

[Oscar Craver]

anything that pertains to the Oscar verse, if you will. So obviously Cat's Eye. I really. That's it. At first he sent me a link to a tick tock and it didn't say what the Tick Tock was on Instagram. He's like, we need a statement on this. And I was scared. I thought like, oh my. Like beefing with someone that I didn't know about my. I was like, oh, God, here we go. But it was just. Yeah, a statement re Cat's Eye. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Cat's Eye. Cuz I keep seeing those. But I. When's your next vlog? When's it dropping?

[Oscar Craver]

Probably sometime in the next week or two.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're in our vlogging era together, kind of. Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

I think we move within a week or two. So that'll probably be the next vlog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is like moving a moving vlog. Yeah, I love it.

[Oscar Craver]

And then Empty House tour. I'm just going to go back and see what you did for this house and moved. I think you did your Tiger King cosplay, like Empty House tour, if I'm recalling.

[Trisha Paytas]

Garden tour.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, the garden tour. That's what it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Walking in the vineyard. Wait, no, that's. That's what it is. Like when you move, obviously there's like so much new, like, great content when you Move. And like, it's very old school YouTuber to do that. But also it's like you just like bought a house, so you're like, well, let's try to earn some of this money back. Monetize this house.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, my God. And you sent me the sweetest text on Tuesday. Yeah, Tuesday, you sent me such a sweet text. I was at work at lunch, like, and I. Such a sweet little surprise. And also I was like, does she like, no. Can she sense it? Because I was down. I was down boots at that moment. I felt like, big as a house. I felt like a flop. I felt just down on my luck because the night before I was like, I'm going to be proactive and like, send emails and like, pitch myself to companies and management places. I was like, I'm really going to be stepping my up to the nth degree. And I sent so many emails and I felt so, like, accomplished. And I was like, I can't wait to wake up in the morning and see who replies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, we don't reply 12 hours.

[Oscar Craver]

And my inbox was crickets. I said, oh, not this. Oh, not this. And I kept refreshing the other day and I was like, okay, not a one. I thought maybe one, maybe two.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you going to big ones mid length?

[Oscar Craver]

Are you going to like, referrals, like where like micro influencers are represented at? And I was like, oh, this would probably be a good starting place. I'm like, let me just do some cold call emails. You know what I mean? I really drafted a lovely pitch for myself. Me doing my own pr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, reach out to Oscar. We'll say here. Reach out to Oscar. You're looking for brand deals for the vlogs for Instagram, right? No, you gotta ask what you want.

[Oscar Craver]

I think the moral of the story is just don't put yourself out there. You guys never put yourself out there. Never.

[Malibu]

You have to remember this is spring break and Coachella, all right? People are not working.

[Trisha Paytas]

If it makes you feel any better, I'm not getting any brand deals for my vlog because I've been trying to do these vlogs and I've been paying editors to make it look like editors. Jimmy. Well, and Taylor, Taylor's been stepping up too, because obviously Jimmy's like, there's too much work here. And I, yeah, I'm in hopes to get sponsored because I see Tana getting these sponsored. I was like, oh, I'm inspired to vlog. And even Moses was getting. Not to say it that way, but you weren't. You Are getting sponsored.

[Oscar Craver]

I was like, well, where he had a channel. That's the kind of the gag.

[Trisha Paytas]

He created the channel for the sponsorship.

[Malibu]

Now I gotta say, you know, we have. And, and we have a lot of people in our comments that use the power of just Trish for manifesting. Because we, we just talked about this year, what we want this year to look like. And I was like, this year I'm gonna cook. Right. And you remember we just said that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Malibu]

And then the sponsorship came.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses cooking videos. Before you do I see your prop before you go there? We should promote yours. Moses.

[Malibu]

No, but this is what it's about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Wow.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, a link tree.

[Malibu]

This is my link tree now that I'm an influencer.

[Trisha Paytas]

When did you make this?

[Malibu]

Me and Malibu, we made this for you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Made the link tree.

[Malibu]

YouTube, tick tock and Instagram. And you can either take a link or you can push the button. So then you get to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where are you going to put this? Like in the grocery store, right? Like the billboards where you take a

[Malibu]

little tape, like in the building on the board.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where are you going to put it?

[Malibu]

I don't know. I didn't think that far. I just made the link tree first. I thought people just go there and they find everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you have a link tree?

[Malibu]

No. Yeah, this is.

[Trisha Paytas]

That people can click on.

[Malibu]

This is it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should have one because you do have a lot of places now. Moses cooking videos. You're crushing it. We did one last night. You've been crushing it there too. You got the first sponsor before any of us. Honestly, like, you got that first sponsor on there. And I was like, dang, okay. Cooking's the way to go. So we're all, we're all looking. We're all there before anyone's like, trisha, help Oscar. It's like I, I get Maddie to help me too. But if I get some, of course I'll always do the overflow because I've been trying. I've been trying. Those vlogs are. Are not easy. But we're all vlogging here at some point.

[Malibu]

Crossover. I'll come cooking at your new house. You know, we'll do like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah.

[Malibu]

Isn't that the old fashioned YouTube? Isn't that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess. Yeah. The collabs. I. Yeah. For some reason I never vlog glamour here. But I should film here, I guess because we're filming. Yeah, but I guess I should do like behind the scenes. I don't know. Maybe if we do a fun Patreon, maybe we'll do like Universal or something. I think about that. Or hiking or something.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where we get.

[Malibu]

Your sister had fun at Universal. We should go. Yeah, my sister, she said she went to Universal recently.

[Trisha Paytas]

When did you say that?

[Malibu]

With your brother. She went there. She said she had fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we always did. I always went with my sister. We always had a good time. My mom used to work on the tram when we're there. We should do that. We should do it. We should do it on a day. Maybe not Hot Topics last time I feel like we did Hot Topics and then. Although I'm already glam. But then we didn't have time in the afternoon. I guess we got planned it better as far as kids go, like. Yeah. Just feel. Because we rushed Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers is long, though. I don't think Universal's as long. Especially if you do the vip. Anyways, check out all of our videos. We're just in our content creation era.

[Malibu]

We're just here to entertain you.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're here to entertain you. We all got that mortgage to pay. I'm just kidding. I love it. Not kidding. But you know, that is life. You have to pay your bills. So. Oh, on that Linktree. Linktree. Not sponsored, but we should get sponsored because they got us. Remember they gave us that billboard. Gave us a billboard. They gave the rummy Ashton. They always give billboards in New York.

[Malibu]

I saw on their account they clipped us talking about Linktree.

[Oscar Craver]

Really?

[Malibu]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they like. So I was using my link tree as link tree. Trisha Paytas underscore because I just log into that. I was like logging in and whatever it looks like just a basic link tree with like green highlight or whatever. But they did a fancy version for me. If you go to LinkedIn.com Trisha Paytas. It has like my book cover behind it and it has like fancy, like news articles appearing. And I don't know how they did it, but they made me a fancy one. And Ryan from CA was like, here's your fancy one. I was like, oh, so I have a new link tree now. They're looking, they're seeing. And how do they get all the links over there? They have all my preorder links.

[Malibu]

I think that's what they do.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were great. Anyways, not sponsored, but we do love a link tree. Is your link a link tree?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it really is the best place because you have so much to link to.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. And it's harder to pick just one and put in the bio.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know I should put our Patreons on there. I forgot to do that. We should put the Patreons because our patrons are popping. What was the last one we did?

[Oscar Craver]

The acting challenge. That was a good one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jimmy loved it. He's like, you need to do more of these.

[Oscar Craver]

The next idea I had, I was inspired by. I think it was Brooke Monk on Tick Tock. She did a run 20 miles with me. This is me. Mile one, mile two.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good.

[Oscar Craver]

So us hiking. But then we never get past the one mile.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say we do minute by minute.

[Oscar Craver]

Maybe minute one, mile one. Still on that. Mile one, baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who did it? Who did that?

[Oscar Craver]

I think it was Brooke Monk.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's really funny. That's actually really funny. We honestly could go by minute by minute. Cuz me, after 20 minutes, I'm like, I don't want to talk anymore. Like, do not talk to me. Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

Especially if it's warm that day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, oh. We gotta go on a non. It's supposed to be cool next week. We gotta go on a cool day because it is gonna get hot.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or we just have to go before. We have to go like 8am and come do the podcast after and be

[Oscar Craver]

like, in our workout clothes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Craver]

So fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's kind of fun.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am in my workout era. That'd be fun too. Lots of stuff. See, the ideas are never ending on Patreon. So go to patreon.com just trish and we'll do a little Just Trish outing with the crew. Again, fun times. It's great times. So here we are, Hot Topics. I guess I should preface this by saying that we are filming this Friday before Coachella, so it doesn't feel as hot. Okay. I know it doesn't feel as hot. It doesn't feel as hot to me. I need to just say that because I feel like if we talk about preparation for Coachella or Coachell drama, that's already happened. We don't know what's about to happen. We could do predictions.

[Malibu]

Yeah, I think we should predict.

[Trisha Paytas]

My sister was very upset that we didn't go more into Coachella on Wednesday. I was so ready to talk about Coachella. I was like, I didn't know. We could have. I have nothing to say about it, but if you lead me into it, that is so. You know what I mean? Yeah. So we can do. We can do that. But yeah, we haven't seen Coachella. But I will be back on Wednesday for our Thursday Hot Topics and we can do a recap if there's anything. Do people Care about Coachella recap from us? I don't know. Is that our vibe? Is that our audience?

[Oscar Craver]

I guess, if there's any tea there. I mean, this Coachella really is bigger than the ones from the past few years, which I didn't really realize.

[Trisha Paytas]

The biggest.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, I think it's the biggest sales since 2022. It sold. It sold out really fast. Wow. And everyone's kind of accrediting it to Justin Bieber. So it's Bieber. Jella, baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably right? That is. We were right before you came. We did. We did the extended hot topics first just because of, like, timing and stuff. So we did that one first. And I was like, okay, Moses, what's your hot topics? And then his was like, literally this. He's like, bieber is bigger than ever. I was like, wait, we might talk about this on the main. I had a feeling and I knew it. So clock it. On that one. We only talked about it for a few minutes. I mean, I feel like we'll talk about this on the main one.

[Malibu]

I feel like this is more talking about,

[Oscar Craver]

oh, okay, maybe. Maybe bleep it. So it builds up some anticipation. I feel like if you advertise it by whatever his name is, that it

[Trisha Paytas]

lasted three minutes and one of those minutes was just Moses showing it. I'm like, oh, I already saw it. And he's like, no, but keep watching. And I was like, jimmy will edit it in. But he was like, no, keep showing it. So yes, we talked about it very briefly, but yes, biebercella is. Is taking over. Everyone is very excited for it. I get it. We were talking about. Not to spoil our three minute conversation on the extended hot topics, but we were talking about. Because I was like, I just don't, like, know if it's like, why is it that big of a deal? Because, like, chapel roan was big and it wasn't this. And I'm like, but that's different. Like, I was trying to explain to him like, Justin Bieber is more like legendary because he's just been around so long and, like, has so much history and events and people are parasocial with him because of everything that's gone through. Asmos a chapel owner who's the one. He said, well, Lord. He's like, but Lord was like, the big. I'm like, but that's not. You can't compare. Even chapel horn. You can't compare to Justin Bieber. Even if her hype is really big. She only has like one album and it's like, Justin Bieber's just. I don't even like Justin Bieber like that. But it's just. I know the Lord.

[Oscar Craver]

You don't like Justin Bieber like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you know, I like that song for all the times you try to rain them. But that's like the one song I like. I don't. I try to. I think I just. Trying to be a believer because I like the. I like the trend, I like the hype. I don't know if I have. I don't know if I can get quite into it yet. Kind of K Montana, it's like, I

[Malibu]

got to get into. There's like a big vacuum of like, he hasn't been performing for a long time to this. In this scale. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because we were trying to figure out more like, well, Lord was also big and I was like, but that's not Lord.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, I think just the. The catalog is so big with Justin. He hasn't performed in a long time and he, I believe, was heard sound checking some of the older songs, like One Less Lonely Girl and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was all new.

[Oscar Craver]

I thought it was all. I thought it was going to be all new. I'm sure we'll know by the time this is up. He was sound checking, like, One Less Lonely Girl. Is it too late now to say sorry?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. So. And I also forget that he has a lot of, like, really iconic songs too. Once people were like, saying what they want to hear, I was like, damn, I forgot he has some hits.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, he does. I. I'm like a fan as general because it can be. I like his music.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. And I think just people kind of want like the Justin Bieber's eras tour moment, you know, and this is the place in time to do it because who knows if he'll end up doing his own tour. He's kind of like mysterious and down low.

[Trisha Paytas]

He probably won't. He's probably like, I'm just gonna do a Coachella maybe. Maybe if you drink Coachella, I guess. Yeah, yeah. You get like. You get the bug. Yeah. Because as most hot topic was, was the $12,000 artist passed. I don't know. What. What do you need a wristband for something?

[Malibu]

Mike, there's probably so many.

[Trisha Paytas]

Michael, Hannah's friend Ashley, he. She gave him a ban in 2024. So he asked. She asked for a ban in return. And then Mike was like, I blocked Hannah because they're $12,000. And I was like, also, you're 41. And he said that in the TikTok. He's like, oh, as a 41 year old. And I'm like, yeah, let's just stop there. Let's just like, why are we talking about Tana blocking her and bands? Like, just stop.

[Malibu]

I mean, that's what I'm saying. He's more of the elders of Coachella. He went for 10 years. He's more like the.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, it was giving ankh. He was definitely like, you kids have fun. Like, be safe. It's going to be a crazy one. I'm like, why are you even making this? What was the point? You're not even there.

[Malibu]

Like, because you. It's that fomo, right? Like, you want to flex, that you've been there for the last 10 years, but you also want to let people know you're not going and you're not.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was trying to flex and being like, text me. And I blocked her. It's like, what? You're.

[Malibu]

Why am I not going? Like. Or kind of an excuse. Well, I'm not going because Justin Bieber. I'm like, no, probably whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

The $12,000 wristband that you can't get. Ashley Swan that you owe her. But it was funny. The first one, that first one came up was that. And I was like, that was not what I was expecting because I have

[Malibu]

a list of tiktoks on my podcast, saved list for the first one.

[Oscar Craver]

So I know there's so many to influencers. I, you know, I love you all, but, like, everyone's acting as if going to Coachella is like getting on the Mayflower and come into America, you know, like, I like the grand pilgrimage. I'm like, you guys, like, it's. Mind you, especially, a lot of you guys are in L. A. It's like a two hour drive. Everyone's getting on their private jets by Starbucks and all the brands. I'm like, you guys, it's literally two hours. Just take the drive. The girls were doing too much this past week in preparation for Coachella. I was, I was getting a little like, okay, well, that's wrapping.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was also Mike me, like, explain was that, like, all the sprinter vans are, like, already rented out. Like, they're 40,000. Like, people are kicking people out of the Airbnb. And like, I think we talked about it briefly, like, charging more now because of the Justin Bieber thing. Oh, that little cuteness reminded me of what we skipped over the part of the cute text that I sent to you because I just reminded me how smart and everything was. My Text to Oscar was that day was because I was on the music video. I just forgot because I wanted to talk about it at the time. Sidebar was, as I said, my music video. And literally, like, I don't know. These people I known for a while or haven't known, like, Andrew Valentine or whatever. Just even, like, random people were just like, well, Andrew was one who came up first and was just like, I. Oh, I love that. That clip from your podcast going around of the Brokeback Mountain or Hunchback Mountain. And I was like, oh, thanks. Like, it's so weird people found that funny. He's like, but Oscar's reaction to you is like, what makes it. And I'm like, yeah, that is it. Like, Oscar and I have good chemistry. And I just was like, we've known each other for so long. I've always felt it. And I was like, oh, it's so cool when I hear other people say stuff like that. And, like, multiple people always say stuff to me, like, Tana, like, anybody. People always say, like, Oscar's so funny. The way Oscar is with you. The way he likes, knows what you're thinking or, like, helps you through. Like, it's just. We have just such a good camera. And that's why I was like, you're so valued. Because I feel like we don't have deep talks, but he is. You are valued. But I, like, want you to know that. And you are irreplaceable. Because I knew you weren't gonna be. We already knew you were gonna be there for Wednesday. And it's just like, obviously, I love having my sister there, but it's just like, yeah, you're. You're a place, but you're so smart. Like, also just deciphering and, like, explaining what me and Moses like. I don't know. You just know. Sometimes we're just. When we did the extended. I'm kind of like, we need help and you're there to help. You know what I mean? You're like, actually, this is why he has this. I was like, that's what I was trying to say about, like, Justin Bieber's lore. Then you, like, explain it. I was like, yes, that part. So you're articulate, you're smart, and you're super funny. I didn't know how funny you were, actually. I knew you were really smart and you were intelligent and you were research super funny. Did you write the questions for ET At Euphoria?

[Oscar Craver]

I actually didn't. Isn't that gaggy?

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, this is Very

[Oscar Craver]

niche and no shout out. Deidre, who interviewed you?

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craver]

No, I wrote one that I don't even think they got to.

[Trisha Paytas]

It felt like you. I felt like it was questions you want to ask me but didn't ask me.

[Oscar Craver]

Can you believe?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was great. Anyways, back to that. We'll go back to that in a second. But when you were talking about Coachella just now, I was just like, you're so funny and sweat. Because, like, you said, like, why are. Why are people making that as if it's like a big pilgrimage down there?

[Oscar Craver]

It is nuts. It has been crazy, though. Like, I. I got it at first because I was like, you know, shoot your shot. Put yourself out there. Try to get a brand so, you know, take you to Coachella. But then everyone's doing a little too much. It's like, every single person. And I'm like, some of y', all I know for a fact can afford it, right? Everyone's just doing too much.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. I always think, too, with influencers when, like, what brands want to take me? I was like, don't. I guess it's like, if you're gonna get something, you might. If you can get something free, why not try to get it for free? But.

[Oscar Craver]

And then I saw influencers, like, break down the price. There's so many facets to the influence influencers at Coachella that I'm just so fascinated by. I feel like a zoologist, like, studying animals. That's truly the feeling it gives because I saw, like, Nikki DiMartino broke it down. She's like, why I'm not going to Coachella this year? She said, no brands invited me. That's okay. That's okay. Which I live no shade to her either, because it's real, and I feel her on that. And she's like, when I'm there, like, I feel pressured to go and just constantly be making content and this and this and that. And I just don't know if I can feel good about spending the money myself. And then someone was like, okay, but, like, normal people Go out all the time to Coachella. Like, it's not just famous people at Coachella, right? And then she did her price breakdown, and she estimated it would be, like, around $10,000 for her to go to Coachella.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like that's on the low end.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, I think, again, people are applying it so for, like, a normal, just like a normie experience, you know, like someone who bought their wristband when they went on sale, the girls were prepared. Because also, everyone knows April is Coachella. Like, this isn't coming by surprise anyone here. If you really wanted to be about it. They announced the lineup before tickets were on sale. If you saw Justin Bieber was on the lineup and you wanted a ticket, girl, get in line with the rest of us, you know, and get that hotel booked. But everyone kind of waited.

[Trisha Paytas]

General admission. That's not vip.

[Oscar Craver]

Artist pass by VIP even right now? Not. No. It's sold out, like, pretty for GA and VIP pretty quickly. But it goes on sale. People have heads up, like, hey, tickets are going on sale this day, so everyone be putting it off. And like, well, it's your fault. So why?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why it's more expensive. But also, Mike Malik saying, is the $12,000 for an, like, a wristband or an artist pass or whatever they're called.

[Oscar Craver]

I think it depends how you get it. Because if you actually know, like, Paige, for example, was like, oh, well, Trevi is able to get artist passes for, like, 2000 because she is a singer, so she has, like. If you have, like, label connections, it's easier to get artist passes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have, like, I feel like I have connects, and I have zero connects every year to Coachella. There's not one person that reaches out like, oh, I can get this for Coachella or this. It's like, I've never, ever had a connect. Like, how are people getting these connects? That's what I feel like. I know so many people, especially now, there's not one. I think it's easier to get in the Met Gala than Coachella. You know what I mean? And I'm just like, well, how are people getting these? Like, it's so weird.

[Oscar Craver]

I feel like it can't be that hard. I really feel like it can't be that hard. No shade.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I. I haven't tried, but

[Oscar Craver]

I think if you try, I feel

[Trisha Paytas]

like someone reach out easy. People. Like I said, people travel for more exclusive things than this. So I was just like, what the. Like, that's what I think is we're sorry. I'm Gonna get this to you real quick because I forgot to charge it. But that's why I was like, I don't know also. Well, we should say it on the main. Because people were like, adele was never at Coachella. It was Lord that he saw.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, okay. I looked it up too, and I didn't see anything. I was like, maybe. I mean, if Moses saw her, like,

[Trisha Paytas]

that's what we said. We'. Well, Oscar looked at up. Did he not say anything?

[Oscar Craver]

I didn't see her on the lineup, but I'm like, I mean, if you saw Adele, then how am I gonna be here? I'd be like, are you sure?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because the comments are like, adele was never Coachella.

[Malibu]

And he's like, no, the letters, if they go back, Lorde, it's kind of the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's like the same era. Lord, Adele, Adela, like, it's all kind of like there. Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Well, it's too funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Has any drama already started since we've. I guess. Tana, did you see her tick tock last night? Yeah, that was kind of crazy. I don't even know what happened. I literally texted her and DM'd her

[Oscar Craver]

because I was like, are you good?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

She Talked about making 2911 calls on day zero of Coachella. So before she even left for Indio.

[Trisha Paytas]

Two separate incidences.

[Oscar Craver]

Separate incidences.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was.

[Malibu]

I didn't see what happened.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she called. She had to call 91 for paramedics and for. Did she say. Did she say what? The second one. Not paramedics.

[Oscar Craver]

It sounded like a safety thing because she said now she's going to Coachella

[Trisha Paytas]

with the Secret Service.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. So, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, I might not even go because then on her story, she had the 911 on her phone and she like, me debating, like, not even going because even it's Justin Bieber, her favorite. And she's like. She's like. I would say you would, like, put, like, when you think of a Justin Bieber fan, like, that's an influencer. You think of Tana because she obviously dated the Justin Bieber lookalike.

[Oscar Craver]

Forgot about that.

[Malibu]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I feel like she's always been that Justin Bieber fan. So she was like, I might not even go, even though, like, I love Justin. So I don't know if she made it down or not, but I did text her, cuz I was like, okay. Like, you always reach out. Like. I was like, actually, like, kind of concerned because she seemed, like, shaken. I'm like damn, it's interesting. Parasocial or. I don't know if it's personal. I don't know. I just. It's interesting. Like certain influencers. Cuz like I haven't had something like that happen in a while and I was just like damn. I don't know if it's like I don't know. I don't know what happened. I like reached out and I obviously didn't hear back. I wouldn't say it either if it was like private. But yeah, drama already. I don't know if she made it

[Oscar Craver]

down, but I think, I think she said she was going down on Friday like today, this morning with security. Yeah, that I heard. But the other thing that I saw over and over again was the brand trips canceling on influencers. That was the whole, the whole trend.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw this too. Was there any specific brands named?

[Oscar Craver]

I saw one that was speculated. No influencers that got canceled on said it specifically.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why wouldn't they?

[Oscar Craver]

I guess just so they don't like ruin future opportunities is the one thing I would think of.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like influencers love to just on a brand when they can be like this, you know, they love to be like united wouldn't let me pee. You know what I mean? Like I feel like they love to like when there's a moment it's giving gave me with a spray tan when pushing invite him this year and he's like push to invite me to push camp. And then push like commented like sorry babe, must got lost in the mail. Like what's your email? You know what I mean? Like I feel like people love to call out brands because brands will see it. So no one's. That's why I was like is this real? Because everyone's like wow, brands are canceling. But I didn't see any of the tiktoks. Any influencers we know got canceled on. Did brand flakes get canceled?

[Oscar Craver]

Oh no, he's on the PJ with Starbucks.

[Trisha Paytas]

With Starbucks.

[Oscar Craver]

Starbucks baby with Tara Yummy Manny Mua Loyly.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Oscar Craver]

Bran flakes. Yup. That was the Starbucks. PJ had all that Starbucks pj. That was one of the hot ones for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my gosh.

[Oscar Craver]

I know, it's gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Good for them. Although that's a lot of influencers to be on a PJ at one time, don't you think T?

[Oscar Craver]

It looked fun though. Tara Yummy took over the, the DJ booth in the, in the PJ on the plane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you when I took a PJ From Coachella to New York and Hasan was on there and David Dobrik. I remember just thinking like at the time, which is why I don't like to take PJs, is like, this would be awful if it. Like something happened. Do you know what I mean? Because it's like when Richie Valens, Buddy Holly and the Big Bopper, you know,

[Oscar Craver]

all the legends just gone in one sleeve.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I was like, you know, the day the music died is what they said. Really? Wouldn't that be crazy? That's why I was like, oh, I don't want to be on here with all these influencers. You know what I mean? Like, that's my legacy.

[Oscar Craver]

One mechanical era and then we lose that whole group of influencers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's not even that. It's me not getting like top billing. You know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna be David Dobrik, Hassan and others. And that's it. That's how I. No, no, I'm sorry. Too many influencers on there. Absolutely not. And that's what I was thinking. And I remember being so scared, I couldn't even sleep. And I was like, I don't like this. So that seems like a lot anyways. All manifesting, obviously, everyone's safety and stuff like that. But. But truly, truly, I don't like to be on PJs for that reason. I don't even like to be on little ones. Even going Jet Suite X with Tana, I was like, okay, let's just, you know, she was like freaking out cause the plane was a little shaky and I was like, okay, everything's gonna be okay. Manifesting safe travels for everyone. Actually traveling on airlines is safe. Safer than traveling in cars, they say. They said you have a likelier chance to get in a car crash. And airplanes. Just trying to ease everyone's mind for plane safety. That it's actually very safe. Pay the TSA people. They're going to get back pay, but we need to pay them now. But everything's good. In fact, the fact that TSA is even showing up for us. We love you. We. You're so great. If I ever come to Congress, I'm going to give you guys more. Because honestly, you are keeping everyone safe. And you should probably get more money than everybody else. So all that to say, don't be scared. But that is my thought. When I think of a PJ and that's a lot of people on there, I'd be like, who was it? Oh, unwell. Unwell. Offered to fly me on A pj. And it was gonna be with other influencers.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's why I was like, you know, I think I might need to drive. And then I end up going on a jet Suite X with Tana separately. But, yeah, when you see that many, you're just like, I don't know about this. Also, you look at where you're gonna be billed, and I'm like, if I'm

[Oscar Craver]

not top billing, that honestly, something I never would have thought about. But it makes a lot of sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. Okay. I feel I never said that out loud. And I'm like, what does that sound like? It sounds a little crazy, but no,

[Oscar Craver]

I mean, that's your legacy. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because if you're just, like, lumped in, you don't even get, like, your own Instagram post, like, in Memoriam. You know what I mean? Like, you're just like. But it is D. Yeah. If you're like the third or fourth post. Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you think about that with, like. Like I was saying, like, Richie Valens, they get the movie labanba, starring Lou Diamond Phillips. Buddy Holly. What is it? Gary Busey plays him. Did the Big Bopper get a movie? No.

[Malibu]

Who?

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. Chantilly Lace, a pretty face hanging down, messing up. You don't know?

[Oscar Craver]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come on.

[Oscar Craver]

Hello, baby. No. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know Buddy Holly songs?

[Oscar Craver]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just knew. They all died in a plane crash.

[Oscar Craver]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did.

[Oscar Craver]

No. I just agreed with you, but I didn't know specifically.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't know Lamba?

[Oscar Craver]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come on.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, okay. I didn't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

A day,

[Malibu]

Trish.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, anyways, the Big Bopper didn't get a movie, and that. That sucks. Actually. Buddy Labamba actually won. Sorry. Richie Valens is his name. He won a coin toss. It was back in the 50s, 1958. And it was a coin toss to see who got to go in a. In a warm plane or who had to take the cold bus. And he lost it. And I think Waylon Jennings was the one that was in the coin toss with him, and he ended up taking the bus. Richie Valens ended up passing away at 17, which is very sad. But anyways, back to the Starbucks. Pj Love that for Brand Flakes. Brand. I guess that's why he's bran, right? Brand Flakes.

[Oscar Craver]

Because he's brand friendly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

That's kind of what it gives, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Brand Flakes.

[Oscar Craver]

He does give a lot of tips to get brand deals and this stuff. Like, he is. He's booked.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's at every brand deal. Yeah, every camp, every trip.

[Oscar Craver]

I did see a lot of people speculate in comments of influencers saying they got uninvited to Coachella. All alleged, all speculation.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is an actor, a singer? What's the brand etiquette?

[Oscar Craver]

Etiqueted.

[Trisha Paytas]

Edicted. How do you spell it?

[Oscar Craver]

E, D, I, K, T, E, D. Oh, yeah, Edited. It's a clothing brand.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does it look cool? Should we get it?

[Oscar Craver]

It kind of gives, like, White Fox kind of. I mean, I don't know. Just me looking at it right now. It's like one of those, like, boutiques, you know, like White Fox Boutique.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a horrible name because we can't even say.

[Malibu]

I know.

[Oscar Craver]

We can't pronounce it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does it have a cool logo? Is it a girly pop?

[Oscar Craver]

It's pink.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they're not inviting people. Allegedly.

[Oscar Craver]

Allegedly. People are speculating. They just did, like, a mass. And an invitation, I suppose, a mass cancellation. But they do have a gifting suite at Coachella that I have seen people go to. Like, Nikki DiMartino is not at the festival, but she did go to this gifting suite. Suite.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. That's kind of tea. I would do that, I guess. I'd go to a gifting suite and not the event, I guess. And who do they cancel? Who are these people? Or you just saw commenting?

[Oscar Craver]

It was all just speculation. A lot of different tick tockers were posting that, and a lot of them have the same, like, text message. It was like this very specific, like, hey, doll, sorry, but we're canceling Coachella this year. So there's, like, different kinds of cancellations. There was one where it was kind of like a brand doing, like, a mass cancellation on a lot of different tick tockers. And then there was another round of cancellations where, like, this one tick Tocker said he was a boy. And it was like, mostly girls on the brand trip and that with bigger influencers. And then they. The brand said that the girls were uncomfortable with having a boy being like, the. The same house, so they canceled on him.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they didn't say any names?

[Oscar Craver]

No, they didn't say any names at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was he gay or straight?

[Oscar Craver]

Gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was confirmed. They said that. Speculation. Who knows that?

[Oscar Craver]

That he's gay?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You know, do you know something that you're not telling me?

[Oscar Craver]

That he's gay?

[Trisha Paytas]

The influencer.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, I mean, I don't. I. This is the first time I saw the influencer. It just popped up.

[Trisha Paytas]

But how do you know he's gay, mama?

[Oscar Craver]

Because I heard and I saw with my own two eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, you saw a picture of the influencer.

[Oscar Craver]

He was him talking. I was like, like, what do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought there was, like, speculation in the comments.

[Oscar Craver]

None for what he was saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, he's the one that was invited. And the brand was like, girls aren't comfortable with you in the house, so we're canceling everything.

[Oscar Craver]

Yes. He said there was, like, a group text with, like, with every influencer. Then there was a separate group text with, like, the bigger influencers. And then he found out that the bigger influencers, who were all girls, were uncomfortable with having a boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they had a group text without him. And they're like, we don't want a boy.

[Oscar Craver]

There was a separate one. Like, almost class wars, I guess there was, like, the bigger followings. Like, over a million was in a separate group text. And then everyone was in another group text. Text.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you believe him? I don't know. I don't want to say I love a gay, so I don't want to be like, I don't believe him, but that seems a little sus. Do you know what I mean?

[Oscar Craver]

Yachty. Because there also was no follow up either. Like, everyone was like, okay, like, what's the proof? Like, what are the names?

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never been in a group chat with, like, other influencers about. No, I can't imagine. No. Seem messy to do that. Okay. Million is in this. Yeah. I would be like, get me out of this group.

[Oscar Craver]

I know who likes a group chat like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they're gonna say it over a group chat if you're just like. And also the girl. I just feel like girlies wouldn't. They don't say that. They're the opposite. They're like, I'd rather be with a gay guy than, like a bunch of girls. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. It doesn't seem. It doesn't seem that it lines up. But I'm not saying you're a liar. I'm just like, we just need more.

[Oscar Craver]

More evidence, I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because that's kind of. I mean, if it's true. Mall toes, you know, but like, seems us. I don't know. That's why I was saying when I was seeing other people saying they got canceled on, like, this is real.

[Oscar Craver]

I do feel like everyone who has, like, the similar text. That. That does seem pretty real to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

It does suck that people are getting canceled on, like, two days in advance and people, like, you know, make plans to go and, you know, Buy clothes and do their hair and stuff. Like, that does suck. So, yeah, I do feel for them. And then I do feel like a lot of people are just throwing it out there, though. Like a last minute, like, Hail Mary for hopes of someone being like, come on down. Stay with us. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like some brand. That's smart. We should do it for weekend two guys. We got canceled on this weekend. We can walk down now, but this

[Oscar Craver]

doesn't go up until.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, weekend too, baby. Okay, that's our plea right now. Damn. We were supposed to go with what brand? Who do we have?

[Oscar Craver]

Charmin the house.

[Malibu]

Oh, because I would. All the toilet paper that burned. They had to cancel because they so much. Did you not see that whole. The largest warehouse in the world of toilet paper burned to the ground.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is what I need on Patreon, babe. I needed these Hot topics. The Moses hot Topics. That's so interesting. I want to learn more. I don't know if anybody else does on this podcast.

[Malibu]

I think they do, because there. There was one person. He actually posted a video of himself lighting it up.

[Oscar Craver]

That was Charmin.

[Malibu]

It was toilet paper.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, I didn't know it was a toilet. I mean, warehouse, but it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

He showed himself lighting it on fire.

[Malibu]

He was like, if you guys only paid us, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's real. No way. An employee of Charmin lit it on fire.

[Malibu]

Well, I know that company. I think the company. This is, like, before they become a. You know, like, they just make toilet paper. But I even saved the video for you to see the. Let me find it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But isn't that, like, arson? Can he go to like.

[Malibu]

It is ours and he is going to prison.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why would he do that?

[Oscar Craver]

Kimberly Clark warehouse. That was in California. It was really kind of. Yeah. It wasn't too far. Ontario, California.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I don't condone committing crimes, but if you're gonna do it, don't film yourself doing it. Be low key about it.

[Malibu]

I guess it was an act of defiance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, defiance, right. Sure.

[Malibu]

Some kind of a. But it was insane because the. The damage. Because you imagine, like, the whole warehouse is toilet paper. The thing burned down so quickly. But it's one of those, like, mega warehouses. It wasn't, like, small.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, what a waste.

[Malibu]

The whole thing burned to the ground. So anyway, I didn't want it. I didn't want to stress you out too much because it might be a toilet paper shortage.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love toilet paper. Never toilet paper shortage in this house. I'm always getting and Buy the rolls, the loads. I love toilet paper. Okay, well, damn. Why did you think of that from that? What happened?

[Oscar Craver]

Charmin sponsoring our coach house.

[Malibu]

That's why they canceled. That's why they canceled that sponsorship, because they lost.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right? So now that there is no toilet paper and Charmin can't pay for our VIP passes at Artist Pass, would you go, like, if someone reached out right now, was like, come down weekend, too?

[Oscar Craver]

I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, same.

[Oscar Craver]

I really don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a lot.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, it's just. It's a. I just am not a festival girl, and I'm at peace with that. And I've known I wasn't a festival girl since I was really young, since I was about 12, 13. I knew the festival life just wasn't something.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened at 12 and 13 that you knew?

[Oscar Craver]

I just saw people go to festivals. Like, people. Yes. Like, damn. I think especially being from here, like, that was kind of the thing that, like, teenagers would go to, really. And I would hear their reports back. They would all come back sick. They would always be like, oh, it's still blowing out dust from my nose. And I was like, that sounds like, not my tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, sounds horrible. There's nothing appealing. I have the opposite. The opposite of fomo. I have, like, oh, my God, thank God I'm not there. Whatever that is. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Craver]

I know. I don't know why everyone is, like. Like, really going through it to get there. And so many. Again, so many influencers deciding, like, last week that they want to go and then just, like, really throwing everything out the wall to see what sex. I mean, mama, kudos. Because I would be too prideful to really do that, but I am. Damn. I would.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I would. I guess if I really wanted to go, I guess I've done it. I'm trying to think. There's only been times where I made a call out there, like, can someone help me with this? Or something. And, like, sometimes it worked and sometimes it doesn't. But you have to try. If you really want something, if you really want. I couldn't care less about Coachella, but if you, like, really want something, just put it out there.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. And it is kind of highway robbery. What? The fees are for everything. Like, I saw Airbnb took it down, but there was a posting for to stay in someone's laundry room, too. And it was, like, over a thousand dollars. I think a night in the day in someone's laundry room, we get free laundry. That's true. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you can wash your clothes there. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, you know, gotta do what you gotta do.

[Oscar Craver]

It was thirteen hundred dollars to stay in the. In someone's laundry room. Airbnb ended up taking down the listing because I guess obviously goes against it, but terms and conditions. I don't think you can rent out like that small of a space and charge that much like that just seems unethical, really. Well, someone wants it and someone's that desperate, I suppose. And then people again have been renting out like their trucks and stuff to sleep in or just also, what was on the site was a couch, like in someone's yard, which it just gets crazier and crazier and people are doing it. I guess the people are getting real desperate.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. It's a little much before what it is, but, you know, I do love it. I do love every year. That's the hype. I love how I won't be here, but I love how LA is like empty. They were saying everyone go to Max and Helen's this weekend because there's no gonna be no line because everyone, like of all ages goes down and yeah, it's. What are you gonna do on your Coachella free weekend?

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, that's a good question. I like to just go to the mall when Coachella is here because all the stores, the trendy stores are usually empty because all the girls already ran through the stores, got their outfits and are up, I guess in Indio.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the trend? What's trendy store is to you? I don't even know.

[Oscar Craver]

Urban outfitter, like a Zara.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if Etiquetted is in the mall or something. I want to wear it now. I don't even know what it is. And I bought it.

[Oscar Craver]

The gifting suites do seem cool. But again, also like, I live. I'm. I'm only clocking Nikki DiMartino because she's the only one I really saw. Like, I saw her one tick tock and I really went in deep. She had like 10 about her Coachella experience because she was like talking about how it's just too much for her. She gets anxious going to Coachella, making content. But then she did all the gifting sweets and she's posting like five TikToks and all the gifting sweets. And then she went to this one, the Addicted. And she could get like, you get one accessory, one top, one shorts, one swimsuit, and you feel high interest.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craver]

Like a little paper.

[Trisha Paytas]

She showed all this, like, what you got?

[Oscar Craver]

She shot out the little.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. That's so fun.

[Oscar Craver]

But it's just like, it kills me because it's like I'm just like, I'm not going to go tell. Like, it just is too much. But congrats to everyone going and then. And all the rounds of the gifting suites. That's crazy. I love that. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love a gifting. Sweet. I never been. Have you ever been to a gifting suite? I feel like you would have with E.T.

[Oscar Craver]

somehow I don't think. I really don't think so. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't even imagine. You just like, go up be like, I want this and I can't take it.

[Oscar Craver]

I know. Like, I've gotten PR stuff sometimes, like, oh, I think like at VidCon when I covered VidCon and had like, was like partnering with the actual convention, they had like the creator gift, like, haul bag and they came and gave that to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

What wasn't it?

[Oscar Craver]

Nothing crazy. It was like a Polaroid camera, a backpack.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Like wireless chargers and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, stuff you need.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, like techie stuff. I guess the creator on the go.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know Trader sent a PR package a while ago, like two years ago of like, like a camera and a passport cover. And I'm like, I love it so much. Like, I love. Yeah, I love. I don't love anything that's free, but I do like it when you get a little surprise. Something.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, it's. I'm sure it's a cool feeling, but yeah, some of the girls were just doing. That's kind of the theme of Coachella. I guess the girl's doing, like, a

[Trisha Paytas]

little bit too much.

[Oscar Craver]

Too much, too much. Oh, and then Sophie Rain posted how much she spent for to go to Coachella, which was corre.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's a of creator.

[Oscar Craver]

She's an Olaf creator.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. And so she's making money. So she's like spending big.

[Oscar Craver]

She like makes. Let me get the exact salary, her yearly salary. She was on the Banging out podcast and showed them how much she made. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Banging out, getting everybody. Gotta add that to my PR stop on my book tour. Wow, that's crazy.

[Oscar Craver]

I think she made over. Oh yeah, she earned over 43 million on of so in 2024 alone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. So she could spend a million dollars and it wouldn't matter. Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

So she talked about how no brands want to take her to Coachella cuz she's not a brand friendly creator.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you're making 43 million. You don't need to be.

[Oscar Craver]

And then so she like added up, she had a little calculator.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute. That's. I like that.

[Oscar Craver]

It's okay. She had her calculator app and she added up how much everything was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I thought she had the calculator out, doing it on her phone.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. And she added it up to $200,000 for her to go to Coachella, which is how.

[Trisha Paytas]

What. What is she spending it on?

[Oscar Craver]

Okay, so 12 passes so that she

[Trisha Paytas]

said, oh, she's taking people.

[Oscar Craver]

She said she spent 83, 000 on the Airbnb 37, 000 for a private jet and around $5,000 on her outfits.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Oscar Craver]

It's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. But I guess if you're making 43 million. But that's so insane. The private jets, the sprinter van, like, it's. It is just too much. It's too much. It's like to me, it's like the most hyped up thing and it's just like. It's just a music festival in the desert. Like, we need to.

[Oscar Craver]

It's on YouTube. Like, it's literally live streaming.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Ari's like, I'm just gonna go home and watch Coachella tonight. And I was like, if I cared about music and I hate music, so it sounds like my worst idea. Like, I don't love, like music like that. Like, I. I would just watch it at home if I like, like performances.

[Malibu]

So it is on a golf course in a town. It's not like you're going to Burning man where there's absolutely nothing. So you have to build stuff. You have to provide everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, Coachella?

[Malibu]

Coachella is easy. Like, you don't need to do much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right.

[Malibu]

You show up, you buy food.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some people are like building tents. Some people camp down there camping.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Some people pretty, like fancy tents up. I was like, I see what you're Saying. But some people do the Airbnb. Are there hotels down there?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, there's like hotels. There's Airbnbs and stuff. They just book really fast, obviously. So the people who waited until the past month to do all their bookings, that's why it's so expensive for so many people. And of course, there are some Airbnb bookings that have been canceled on people randomly just to get the inflation price. But yeah, it's wild, honestly. Like, this is obviously it's a whole spectacle every year, but this year is like something else.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

Altogether.

[Trisha Paytas]

It already feels like a lot here on Friday, day one.

[Oscar Craver]

So moral of the story, story. If you have Coachella fomo, just don't. Just don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not it.

[Oscar Craver]

You're not missing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't wait to see. We'll recap when I. When we get back next week. But I am excited to see. Do you think everything will just go? No drama?

[Oscar Craver]

Doubtful. Remember when everyone thought James Charles was sucking someone off in the Ferris wheel? That was crazy. That was my favorite. I hope he actually does does it this year. Like, that's actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

James Charles kind of is. I was gonna say king of Coachella, maybe jester of Coachella. He is kind of the one that everyone kind of is and maybe rightfully so. I don't love people like laughing at someone, but I mean, James is kind of the worst, as we've have figured out the past year, so.

[Oscar Craver]

God, that 2019 Coachella, though, that was. That was peak pop cultureless chaps. I think that was the chaps one. I think that was the. The Ferris wheel.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was 2019.

[Oscar Craver]

I think so. And was that. Was that when he was staying with someone, like one of Tana's friends? I think that he thought he was like had a relationship with or something. And then they ended up being, I think, straight and then the sugar bear hair. So I think that was a big. That was maybe one of the biggest Coachellas ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say bingo card this year. Does James Charles get into any scandal with a straight boy at Coachella? Well, that happened. Well, what other is a good Coachella? Like it's gonna happen.

[Oscar Craver]

Someone makes fun of someone's outfit and gets canceled for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone says how much Justin Bieber hates Hailey Bieber. He didn't even look at her during the set. He hates her.

[Malibu]

It is trending. Biebercella.

[Trisha Paytas]

Biebercella. You both read that as the hottest topic to start off, the extended and stuff.

[Malibu]

They have all the merch out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, there's merch at Coachella. Yeah, At Coachella's making merch that says be rechella. What about the other headliners? Are they like, what the hell?

[Malibu]

There's actually no. Nobody else is performing at the time that he is. Because they're like, what's the point?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but there's other headliners, like Carol G and Sabrina are headliners too.

[Oscar Craver]

Merch too. I think every artist who's there, like, they sell, like, okay, it's not just Bieber. No. Sabrina has. She has, like, a little pit stop on the way to Coachella and then she has, like, Sabrina's pit stop merch. She actually did something really cute where she handpicked fans. She partnered with Airbnb and she handpicked fans to fly them out to Coachella. Had. Had Airbnb, like, hook them up with a place to stay. Had a private chef for them. I know, and I like that it was fans instead of, like, influencers. Like, just picking real, genuine fans who will appreciate it. Yeah. And they still, like, make content. You know, they make fan edits and stuff too. So they're still do the same thing that influencers. Yeah, they're the real deal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Sometimes they like that because we always make the argument, why not? Why not regular people and not fans? Because like you said, sometimes that content that's made by just, like, regular people or whatever goes more viral because they are. You can tell. They're just like, fan. Like, not to bring back to your four. Because we already talked about it. But the Euphoria premiere, they, like, there was a section of fans that are, like, VIP fans. Like, I asked them too. It's like, right before you walk into the theater, after you do the red carpet, right before. And they got pictures with Jacob. Lordy. Shout out Ashton. Ashton Gaylor, who, like, has come down my Trishmas. He comes to Heirs of Trish. I love him. He wore an Heirs Trish shirt at the Euphoria premiere. And I was like, oh, my God, I love your shirt. Like, what the hell? Like, and he was taking pictures of Jacob Elordi and Alexa Demi, like, everybody. And there's like, 20 fans there. And you're like, how do you get these? And they're like, oh, this, like, company called, like, one Iota. Which one Iota posted that? I was talking there. I don't know. Anyways, would you love one Iota? I think the Beetlejuice, it wasn't a scam, but the screening went to. That wasn't a premiere. I think that was one Iota too. Anyways, so I guess go to one iota if you're a fan because you get the. Not sponsored. But they all got to be at this, like, really special part of the red carpet. And I was like, I'm gonna be in this little group because you get to see all the stars walk in and it's. It feels. Anyways, the whole point of that was it feels more exciting. I feel like I saw all the stars go over and talk to them because those are the people who are generally fans, right? Like influencers. They're just looking for content clout likes. But those people are like the fans they were so excited to get. The Rue zip Up hoodies they all got and stuff. So it's like, that's what I'd want to see. That's what I want. In fact, if I had that have all just like super fans that like, truly, truly like me and give them like a quiz, a little rundown. And I think that's what they should do. Like, like Sabrina, like reward the people who have been there truly that just like you for you and not trying to get that and the hype that likes. Yeah. You know what I mean? We see Rihanna, we see all those people do it with like influencers. So it's like just do some fans.

[Malibu]

And also something that started as a small thing. This is the most expensive, most formal Coachella. So those fans are like, they want something really big in that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, huge. To get to go to a Coachella and like with Sabrina's Airbnb, was she there or. No, just her Airbnb.

[Oscar Craver]

No. They'll probably have like special standing sections for her performance, I would think. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When iota, you know, they're down there with all the fans. It's so cool. How did Ashton get that? I should ask him, right? He's right everywhere. He's always in every event, everything I like. How do you afford it? I guess one hour is free. I guess they give free tickets out.

[Oscar Craver]

You know about it, huh? When I was younger, I did oh, Miley Cyrus actually. She performed a concert. I want to say maybe not like late night. The Jimmy Kimmel show. I think he had like a concert series.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

And then Miley, it was the bangers era.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like her bad era.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Wrecking Ball. She did a concert there and then. Yeah. When Iota, like we'll post or tweet. Be like, you want tickets to this? Apply here and then. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you did.

[Malibu]

They said there was a lottery. The people you talked to, they said there was Like a lottery. And they wanted.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, I did that for Olivia, her fans. I just posted Google form just now, like yesterday to get your information. And I was like, okay. And they didn't say what it was. They said, this is gonna be open for 30 minutes. I said, oh, let me get in the mix. Me and the, the 16 year old girls. Like I'll be, I'll be in the pit with those 16 year olds and I'll be making sure they're okay and you know, hydrated and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then Olivia will come through. Wait, but you don't know what it's for?

[Oscar Craver]

No idea what the hell is for.

[Trisha Paytas]

They let just sign up.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, they said put your information here.

[Trisha Paytas]

They could be sending information in China. We love China.

[Oscar Craver]

But if Olivia Rodrigo wants to steal my identity, she can take it.

[Trisha Paytas]

100 crazy. Let me just put your. I think Remy Ashton was just talking about that. She was on some podcast and she was saying like how early on when she was getting PR packages it would be when she was living with her parents. Her dad's like, don't give our Internet out to or our address out to people on the Internet. It's like, this can be my job, it's going to be my living.

[Oscar Craver]

That's so funny. My parents kind of the opposite. Like I, when I was live streaming once, someone was like, oh, can I send you an invitation to my graduation? I was like, okay. And I just gave him my parents address. I came in the. Yeah, well, not live. I think I DM'd her or something. But then it came in the mail. Then my mom, me and my dad have the same name, so they always open my mail and it wasn't the same name. Yeah, both Oscar Gracie. So it gets a little confusing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you Junior?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're Oscar Gracie Jr. Yeah. I've never seen that written anywhere.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, I don't write it out, but yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, why not? That's cool. I'd love a Junior. That's so cool. I want to name our MO. I want Aquaman to be Moses Ackman Jr. That's cool.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, but it just gets confusing with mail and stuff. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they open it.

[Oscar Craver]

So they open it. Yeah. And then every time my mom kept going like, are you gonna go to her graduation? She lives like across the country. So I'm like, I don't think I can make it. But she keeps falling up. She's like, okay, just make sure you say congratulations. How for you, this was like five months ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why didn't you take your parents address

[Oscar Craver]

because my mail at my apartment gets stolen, so I had to do my. My home address.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, okay.

[Malibu]

We get that in the mail. She doesn't open it. I open the mail.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never open the mail.

[Malibu]

We get so many invitations to graduations.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, do we? Why are we not going? Let's go to all of them.

[Malibu]

We're gonna get more now.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, don't send it yet. Actually, no. That is weird. I didn't know they came to our house. That is a little weird. Like. Like, we didn't give him the address. Oscar at least gave the address. Ours is, like, people just now.

[Oscar Craver]

My address is in my link tree. My mailing address. Oh, my.

[Trisha Paytas]

You got a P.O. box.

[Oscar Craver]

It's just my. My work mail.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your other job.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You give them that address.

[Oscar Craver]

We have little mailboxes because everyone at my work, like, the producers, they get PR boxes from, like, the studios all the time. So, like, Euphoria or whatever, movies coming out. So everyone has a little mailbox. So I'm like, I'll just do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're gonna get a lot of mail there.

[Oscar Craver]

Go for it. Yeah. I want to feel cool. I do get FOMO there because every. Every producer is getting all the freaking PR boxes, and I'm like, damn.

[Malibu]

Is there a person, like, in the movies walking with a card and giving people their mail in there?

[Oscar Craver]

Because that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's cool. They give it to your cubicle like this.

[Oscar Craver]

There's the mail room at the studio, and then they have to go around on a golf cart and separate the mail for everyone. They put it in the mailbox. And then if you have a big package, they'll give you, like, a little slip saying, come to the lobby. You have a package. Package.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. We should do a tour of your lot.

[Oscar Craver]

Our lot is so boring.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do they do tours?

[Malibu]

Yeah, like, bring your parents to work there.

[Oscar Craver]

Wait. Actually, they did do that a couple months ago. I'll bring your parents to the lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can do a tour. Give us a tour of it. It's pretty quick, but big brother's there. That'd be fun. Where you work? Brother's there, where the mail room is.

[Oscar Craver]

They will rent. They shoot random things there. They shot. I don't even know if it's a movie or a show, but it was called, like, World War 7 because all the signs kept saying, like, World War 7 this way. And I was like, that's a little spooky to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it was a. Like, a fake name.

[Oscar Craver]

T. Yeah, everyone, you know, fake names

[Trisha Paytas]

now for their projects. Because when does this come out? This comes out Tuesday. When does Euphoria come out? The first episode.

[Oscar Craver]

It came out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it came out. So in the first episode of Euphoria, they show one of the characters working on a soap opera called LA Knights. And that's what they called Euphoria.

[Oscar Craver]

That's where it came from.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Wait, did you know it was LA

[Oscar Craver]

Knight Told me it was LA Knights.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I did. I mean, just saying everything. What did I say? I was like, oh, we haven't done

[Oscar Craver]

it in the WB tour. Yeah. You told our.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're such a good member. You remember so much. How do you remember that? I remember that. And it was like, such a little, like a minute. That's great. Wow. You and Jimmy both. Because the thing Jimmy had to cut was, like, months ago. I was like, oh, my God, you have such a good. Wow. Yes. Yeah. They usually have, like, fake names. And I remember, like, Euphoria was called LA Knights. And then I. When we watched the season one, I saw that there or episode one, I remember I was like, oh, that's why they call the LA Knights. It was like, the fake show on the show. I love that. Okay, that's. So maybe it was fake. Maybe World War 7 is, like a Tom Cruise movie for, like, War of the World.

[Oscar Craver]

Maybe. Or maybe I didn't even care enough to, like, look it up to see. I'm sure if I, like, snooped around, they could figure it out, but other than that, there's not that much exciting. They did film this Star Search that Netflix won across from us, and that was a lot to deal with. America's Got Talent used to film there at one point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's kind of exciting. I feel like I've been there for something to film.

[Oscar Craver]

They used to do, like, one of those game shows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I think I probably went there for, like, an audition or something. For, like, a game show.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'd only been there and it was small. I just can't remember.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, it's really small. So it doesn't really give much, but

[Trisha Paytas]

if they let us do a tour there. Does Denny work in there?

[Malibu]

He does.

[Trisha Paytas]

He has an office. He has a desk.

[Oscar Craver]

I think he has an. He has a dressing room, like, slash office.

[Trisha Paytas]

Deidre.

[Oscar Craver]

She doesn't have an office. She has had a desk.

[Trisha Paytas]

She needs an office. If she's a red carpet correspondent, what

[Malibu]

does she normally do?

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh?

[Malibu]

She's out all day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does she do mostly red carpets?

[Oscar Craver]

She does red carpets. And then she also, like, produces videos, like, writes the scripts and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

I asked Denny where he was. I said, where were you last night? Because he wasn't at Euphoria. He was at Hacks. And he's like, I was covering Taylor, Frankie Paul.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, yes, yes. He was boots on the ground in Utah. And then Taylor, Frankie Paul wasn't even there. She zoomed in. I was like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so he's just.

[Oscar Craver]

Just.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was there for no reason in

[Oscar Craver]

front of the courthouse for no reason. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I told him, like, wow. Nancy Gun 3. Taylor, Frankie Paul, Hacks. I'm like, you're really multi. You're very versatile. He's very all over the place. I love him. I love E.T. i was happy that Deidre1 talked to me, too. I was like, shout Out Oscar. I always say that before when I go up to eta, I always say, hey, Shout Out.

[Oscar Craver]

That is so funny. Yeah. And they included it in the video. I didn't even edit that either. Shout Out Adelaide.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

She even got my Getty. I was like, like, damn, Adeline.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's nice. I love that. Shout out to Oscar.

[Oscar Craver]

That was too funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always get excited when they don't want to talk. And Denny, too. Denny knew some stuff that I didn't know people knew.

[Oscar Craver]

What's your episode?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I guess we have to blur that because I guess I'm not supposed to say that I'm on it.

[Oscar Craver]

No, they, like. Everyone knows that you're in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

Because they screened it. And also other outlets posted.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw, but they all told me it's airing later.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Denny said that, too. He's like, oh, it's gonna be later.

[Oscar Craver]

We haven't posted ours because some people broke the embargo. I'll say we are. Yeah. We have a date where we can post your interview.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I had. I had, like, obviously someone from hbo, and they were like, originally in Euphoria. They're like, oh, you're not gonna do pictures of Hacks tomorrow. And then when I did the interviews, I was like, I don't know. He's like, no, no, we can have. Why? Because it's not gonna. I was like, okay. And then. Yeah. And then. Okay, well, whatever. I don't even know at this point either. Okay. So that makes.

[Oscar Craver]

Okay, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very confusing.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so he saw. Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. So he. Did you. No, I haven't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you.

[Oscar Craver]

I'm sure I could ask. I don't do screeners anymore because Darian gets upset because they put giant watermarks. Anytime you get a screener and it, like, floats around and it has your email. So that way, like, if you try to record it and leak something, that's smart. They know exactly who did it. So it's not a fun viewing experience because, like, you just see this giant watermark bounce around and so we used to watch Screeners. Gotta be so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

But.

[Oscar Craver]

But then Darian's like, I don't wanna watch shows this way. So now we don't watch screeners.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that makes sense. Did you watch the first episode of Hacks?

[Oscar Craver]

Yes, I did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, God, we should have watched it.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, yeah. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know you have the premiere, but

[Oscar Craver]

you can't watch the first episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, well, we. It wasn't like a screening. Cause it was at, like, a different venue, so we didn't get to. I would have loved to have watched it, but it was out in last night.

[Oscar Craver]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dang. We should have watched it. I'm so excited for it.

[Oscar Craver]

It's a good season. Streets are saying the streets are saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cause then someone at Euphoria was like, oh, yeah. Like, you were so good in this. And I was like, how did you see it? Like, you saw the episode? Like, no, I saw the dailies. I was like, who's sending you dailies?

[Oscar Craver]

That is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, they just send them out to these out. I don't know. Anyways, we did get to talk to one of the editors of Euphoria, and they did say that it was a great episode. They edited my episode, actually.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, that's so exciting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

And you look great.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought you were.

[Oscar Craver]

No, your red carpet look, your pink dress.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it hacks at Hacks.

[Oscar Craver]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That ended up being. We talked about this a little. Well, we talked about that a lot. We went more into detail on the excited Patreon because we didn't know if we're gonna bring it up, but that one. What ended up being Jared, it was a dress that no one liked. When I tried it on. And then when I saw the Hacked poster, I was kind of like, oh, wait, that kind of looks like that dress. So I was like, can you come get that dress? I literally, at midnight, after Euphoria, I was like, can you get that pink dress back? And then he's like, oh, I already returned it. But then Jared made it happen. He was able to get it back. And then he's like, actually, now this works. Yeah, that was great. It's very last minute. I didn't like anything at first. And then I was like, well. But then I was like, I just wore it. I was like, okay. I Like it? I don't know. It was definitely, like, different for me, but I liked it. It was pink, you know pink.

[Oscar Craver]

You can't get it. No. You look great. I think that's my favorite Getty of yours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. You looked amazing. The girls were raving about it. Everyone's like, wow, this is her best look ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thanks. It was, and it was great. He did a great job. And he. Jared always comes through last minute. He was at my music video last minute for me. He got Teletubbies. I will say. Oh, my God. Shout out Jared Benedict. Is that his last name?

[Oscar Craver]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Assistant stylist to so many people. He's been an assistant styling to Met galas. Like, he's everything. He's probably gonna be a mainstylist. She's very young, very hip.

[Oscar Craver]

I know. He's so young. And he, like, he did all of Charlie's press. He assisted with that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Craver]

Adela.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Craver]

Rowan Blanchard and her press tour. Like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's amazing, everyone.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He also came to Trishmas, my one night only Broadway show. The end of Beetlejuice. Like, he's kind of come everywhere. I didn't even know. He's amazing. I asked for Teletubbies. My Instagram story, because this was saying earlier, you just got to ask her out there. It's like, Alexa Oakley want to go Justin Bieber? And then Tana's like, absolutely. Now I get free games for life. Like, you just got to put out what you want. So then I was like, the day before my music video, I needed Teletubbies and like these old school keychain ones. And I had ordered mine from ebay. They weren't coming for a week. It was 8:45 at night. I was like, can anyone. Does anyone have these Teletubbies? In order to get these Teletubbies, Jared text me literally two minutes later. And I was like, I can be. I'm at Century City Mall at the Pop Mart and they have them. Do you want me to get them for you? Like how? Like, what do you mean? I don't know if he was already there. If he like drove there. I don't know what happened, but it was like within minutes. And then like, the store was about to close at 9 and he like bought them. And at like 8:50, he's like. Because I hadn't responded right away. K Pop Demon Hunters, Haja Boy's Breakfast Meal and Hunt Trick's Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans what do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

[Oscar Craver]

It is an honor to share.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's our honor.

[Oscar Craver]

It is our larger honor. No, really, stop.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craver]

Streets are saying megala.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no one's saying that except ET that's why when they. She asked me that, it caught me off guard, and I was like, are you Oscar Craver? Oscar? Because which one are you? You're the only two saying this. And that's why I was, like, so confused.

[Oscar Craver]

The fact that she had that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That caught me up and, you know, my dad being like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why I say anything. I was like, oh, that's. Yes. I was like, no, I don't know. But it's not a nuts. It's like, oh, my God, I'm horrible, Horrible, horrible. At interviews.

[Oscar Craver]

No, they have both said that you did great. They said their only note was, like, to not be so shocked that people would interview you. I was. They would. They came to me with the report and I was like, thank you. Because I've been media training hard. Like, we've been really working at it. They're like, yeah. I guess the only. No, I would say maybe is like, just for her not to be so gagged that we interviewed her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am gag.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Like, they were like, we had more questions for her than a lot of other stars.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, in all fairness, Danny Directo, you didn't want to interview me at Wicked, and you saw me, you're like, hey, love you. Well, how about an interview then? Like, you know what I mean? So there is. There is reason to believe why I should be gagged. But, I mean, I'm very excited. Every time I see E.T. i was like, okay. Because I always think you tell them. So this was like, okay, we're just fine. Yeah. Vori. I did do the whole press line. They gave me a publicist. HBO Max gave me a publicist and Lexi. Shout out Lexi. And, like, walked me through the whole line. Very exciting. I got to do everything. I got to do all the interviews. Just a star over here. I like to be included in, like, the cast photo dumps and stuff. I'm like, oh, here I am. It's just. It's so funny. If you want to see a full recap, Mose and I have been doing our red carpet recap experiences of all the after parties and everything. Everything on Patreon. That was our hot topics because we were about to go too deep into Mike Maylock over there.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, with the Euphoria, people are bringing up the time that Zendaya and Jacob Elordi dated, and I forgot about this. Like, I kind of. I remember living it. Like, I remember seeing it in real time, but now it's hard to just imagine Zendaya with anyone besides Tom Holland. So, yeah, when everyone started posting these photos again, these paparazzi photos of Zendaya and Jacob Elordi, I was like, I forgot.

[Trisha Paytas]

What year?

[Oscar Craver]

2019-2020.

[Trisha Paytas]

When did she get Tom Holland?

[Oscar Craver]

She was with Tom Holland before that. Like, 2017 to 2019. They took, I guess, a year off and then broke up for a year. And then in 2021, she was back with Tom, and then they got married. 20, I guess this year, 2026, Jacob

[Trisha Paytas]

Elordi and her were already filming Euphoria when they were dating.

[Oscar Craver]

Yes. Because euphoria premiered in 2019, so they already worked together. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what's the pictures of them?

[Oscar Craver]

There's a few paparazzi photos of them. One that I keep seeing. I'll show you this exact one Actually, because it's pretty funny. It's them in the airport.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the website you get the paparazzi pictures on?

[Oscar Craver]

There's a few. Like, Back Grid is probably, like, the most popular.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you just put my name in. Like, do I have to have a subscription?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, you have to have a membership, and then you have to pay to buy each photo. I think each photo is priced, like, it depends on the photo, but usually like 200 to 800. Then if it's exclusive, like, over a thousand.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my. Because me most. And I got paparazzi. That Chateau. My mom was trying to find those pictures because there was so many there. And obviously they're there for, like, Lily Rose up and, like, Jake Valori. But, like, we got. And there were so many flashes, and I was like, where's those pictures? We saw a video of it, but we didn't see the pictures. I was like, okay, are you. I guess if you have it, you look.

[Oscar Craver]

But this photo of Zendaya and Jacob Elordi, I love. It's them in the airport, like, on one of the little carts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they don't look like they're dating. They just look like they're, like, promoting a show.

[Oscar Craver]

No, they're. They were dating this time also.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure. Confirmed.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Because there's also other paparazzi photos of them. Like, there's one of them kissing. There's. He. She even, like, went to Australia to meet his family.

[Trisha Paytas]

Serious.

[Oscar Craver]

I know they were together for, I guess, pretty, like, on and off for, like, a year. But that photo kills me because his nails are also painted to. And they match Zendaya's. So it's like. Yeah. And he also, like, famously just carries his, like, purse over his shoulder. But in that one, he's carrying her purse suitcase. So it's kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe that's where it started. Carrying her purses.

[Oscar Craver]

And then he was inspired. He's like, damn. I realized it's pretty practical. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's practical. How does he get all these hot girls? I don't get it. Like, I don't understand. Like, why is he dating all these supermodels?

[Oscar Craver]

I guess just because he's hot, she's hot, they're working together. She was, you know, rebounding a little bit. I'm sure that it probably started as a rebound from. From Thomas Holland. And then she was like, oh, actually,

[Trisha Paytas]

kind of like, that's a crazy rebound. Jacob Lorney.

[Oscar Craver]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bounds are ugly.

[Oscar Craver]

Co stars too. Like, co star and Spider man co Starring Euphoria.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's what we always say about actors and actors. Like, how do you not fall in love on set? Like, you know the chemistry. People say that on Tick Tock. I'm not the only one. Because I see, like, random people on TikTok be like that. Like, how are people, even actors? Like, how wouldn't you fall in. Like, why wouldn't you fall in love with, like, someone being in love with you?

[Oscar Craver]

T?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I don't think I'd ever get cast as, like, a romantic lead, so I have to worry about that. I think I'm always gonna be, which is good, you know what I mean? Because I would, like. I feel like if someone, like, was such a good actor and it's just me, like, I'm so in love with the epic. Wow, we're in love. Oh, right.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. I feel like you go very method in the sense that, like, the lines are blurred for you. Like, yeah, you go method. Not by choices. Because that's the only option.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. I will say, my little thing of euphoria. I was so method that I, like, stopped. Because I was. I was so. We both were so method and seen that. I was like, I'm like. And I like, just laughing, like, is this real? And I remember asking that, like, because I was so confused. I was like, what? And I said, I don't know what to say. I, like, broke a couple times. I'm like, I don't know what's happening anymore. So I. I am very method because I'm mentally ill, T. But yeah, with

[Oscar Craver]

Zendaya and Jacob, though, they didn't really have that many, like, scenes together. I mean, a few in season one, but it's not like their characters really had, like, any kind of, like I said, some kind of relationship, but nothing crazy. It's not like Sydney Sweeney and Jacob Lori, Season two, or even like, Alexa Demi and Jacob Elori. They had a lot more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe that's why he. Right, right, right. So they were just, like, on the set and saw each other.

[Oscar Craver]

It kind of gags me. I completely forgot that that was. That was a thing that happened because, yeah, I think everyone now just associates Zendaya and Tom Holland, like, from Spider man to now that whole time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, maybe that's why she left. Everyone's like, oh, she's beefing with other co stars. But, like, maybe that's why she left. Maybe she's like. Which, by the way, I can confirm, she did not leave right away. Actually. You saw. You showed me that video of her, like, going red Carpet straight to the suv. I saw red carpet of her going in. And I did see her in there. And I know because the guy she was with was not LA Roach, but someone who was helping her with her outfit was. Because I said. I'm like, is that Zendaya? And you're like, no, because she was kind of like in the middle and not getting swarmed. It was because when I saw the red carpet, it was with her back out. And she did go in for at least. At least a minute. I don't know if shade for the screening or what, but I saw her inside and she was in that middle row and I saw all the people around her. And you can't, like, you can't. Like, there's no one else that looks like that. So I was like, oh, that is definitely Zendaya. Even though I have bad eyes, I still was like, that's definitely her. So she was inside.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Everyone was running with the narrative that she. That she left, she fled.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now, my theory is maybe she came back out and did more pictures in love. Because, like, that's even us after the screening, people were still taking pictures by the set and stuff like that. So my theory is maybe she's for the screaming. She didn't. Because I didn't. I could. I didn't have eyes on her like that. But she definitely was in at some point. So maybe when she left, they're like, oh, do some more photos. The red carpet and then go straight to the car.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, she could have, like, also did their photos, like, arrived. Did her photos. Got back in the car to get the back entrance into the theater. Because she didn't do interviews.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Oscar Craver]

So that way she bypasses it. Doesn't have to deal with everyone trying to get an interview.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she got that VIP drop off. I remember I was like, they shut down the entire. How'd they get through there? Because they shut down all of Hollywood Boulevard. How'd that car get through?

[Oscar Craver]

You have like a. A pass?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a VIP pass?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, you have a. The driver has a pass that they show this. The.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, security. That's really vip. One day we'll get there. One day we'll be ultra VIP. Because I was like, wow, there was only like five SUVs. I was like, oh, I wonder how you get one of these car is how it's okay.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

To be in the show.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. You have to be part of the reason why I shut down. So I think. I think you got to be like, top billing, you know, everything, like. Yeah, exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think they'll let us get a drop off right there? Yeah, I don't know. Okay, I'll take it. We walked from Foot Locker. Kind of fun. It's kind of fun going on Hollywood Boulevard. Kind of scary, kind of spooky. You don't really know what's going to happen. Yeah, that was a good time.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Everyone at my work was like, damn, is she the new queen of hbo? Because the back to back was gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was gaggy hbo. Max did leave a comment. And, like, our star. They wrote that on my Instagram, not me. They did. And I was like, when's the next one? When are we going? Literally, one of the people on red carpet was like, I literally sounded again like an Oscar and Oscar crave asked me a question. They're like, we heard you're gonna be in heated rivalry, too. I was like, no, you didn't. Where did we hear that? And I was like, well, I'm open to it.

[Oscar Craver]

Misinformation. And it kind of catches on. I love in the comments, what was. Oh, yeah, euphoria. I was like, oh, she's playing younger cast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you are the one. And then I was younger.

[Malibu]

I've seen videos of people making. They use a lot of your characters as heated rivalry. Like, they make little fan edits.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, of all of it. I did. Someone did stand. They did correct us in the comments on last week's episode with my sister. Cassie's mom has appeared in season one and season two.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I do. Her and Lexi's mom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, because, Kaz, like, maybe you're gonna be Cassie's mom. And I was like, I don't know. I was like, no, she's been in it. I was like, oh, I think it made.

[Oscar Craver]

It made sense. Well, my PR spin was like, oh, she's gonna be older Cassie. Because you said in one interview your favorite character is Cassie. And then Darian was like, has Trisha watched Euphoria? Why would she say her favorite character is Cassie? She should say her favorite character is Alexa Demi's Maddie. And I was like, okay, good point. So then I was like, PR spin. And then I went and left the comment, oh, when they see you be older Cassie after the time jump. Because I'm like, then it makes sense because she plays Cassie.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will preface this by saying I'm not too familiar with the characters. As soon as I said it, I was like, oh. Because I was the one that kept popping in my head. I could have said, like a jewel. You know what I meant? Like, I could have said, but that's, like, the name I remembered.

[Oscar Craver]

That's why with your interviews are funny, because it's never the real answer. It's just whatever you can think of first.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And thinking of Cassie's storyline in this, I don't. I take back my answer, but I don't know who I relate to. Nobody. Rue, maybe? Rue. She seems like she's. I don't know. Then, like, who do you hate in the show? I was like, nate. Like, I don't know. You know, I do love Euphoria. I do love it, but I love season three. I don't know if I. You know, I haven't been too into season one. I'm gonna go back and watch.

[Oscar Craver]

I watched season one when it happened. I didn't watch season two, but I feel like I know everything. But I'll be seated for season three.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's what my favorite quote was. And I was like, why do you look like you're auditioning for Oklahoma? Because that was season two, and that was everywhere.

[Oscar Craver]

ASMR as well, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah. So anyways, not to recap again, but it was a night of a. Of a thousand stars there. I will not be making Coachella. I have to rest this weekend because Coachella just seems. Well, it's already happened.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I was there. Maybe I'm Justin Bieber, special guest. I think I'd only go if I was, like, a special guest. Like, if I was singing a song

[Oscar Craver]

or something, like, cat's eye brings you out or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Man, I was not gonna be there. Didn't you tell me when I was gonna be there?

[Oscar Craver]

There was rumors that she was contractually obligated to be there. That's what everyone was running with, and then that turned out to be false. As. As of right now, she was not with everyone else they were hearing, but I guess they brought out Hunt tricks and performed golden because they were. They did that.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you know this?

[Oscar Craver]

There was sound check of them performing with EJ from Huntrix Golden.

[Malibu]

We talked about that. And I said, well, the only thing they can do is that one song. So they can only go if somebody invites them to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because we're like, why isn't Huntrix there?

[Malibu]

This is exactly what's happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, that's huge.

[Malibu]

I feel like that's pretty smart for the Cat's Eye team to do that.

[Oscar Craver]

I wish they did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's huge.

[Oscar Craver]

How it's done or something. Something a little bit more slay, but still. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's that? One how it's done, done, done.

[Oscar Craver]

Like that first song when they're on the plane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's done, done, done. Or is that. Is that. Oh, that is that one. Then we were wondering, is it the same singers for all the songs? We talked about this before. It's the same singers for all the songs. Hunches.

[Oscar Craver]

So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, ej. Oh, okay. Because I thought there was always different, but maybe we had this conversation.

[Malibu]

I've seen different people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we talked about this in Oscar, saying maybe they just did covers or something that we saw. Maybe it wasn't like, actually them and. Because I'm sure they'd have the same singers.

[Oscar Craver]

I think so. Because the voice has to be consistent, I would think. And it's. And there are all three artists. Like, they were so low before.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. That's gonna be gaggy actually, though, if they bring out hunters.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or they did bring out.

[Oscar Craver]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were so good. So hard. I know you guys are filming this on the Friday. We're trying to be. I hate being. I hate that when it's like, oh, I know.

[Oscar Craver]

We're so used to being like, on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Whenever I see people talking about stuff that happened three days ago, I'm like, oh. And because it's Coachella, it's so, like, dated. So I was like, dang. I was so sad. But we're gonna. If there's anything that needs to be addressed, we'll address it Wednesday.

[Oscar Craver]

If anything super gaggy happens, which, who knows? I doubt it. But who knows?

[Trisha Paytas]

Jojo, see what comes out with Justin Bieber with Carl G. Are you gonna see any movies this weekend?

[Oscar Craver]

I really want to see Yumi in Tuscany with Halle Bailey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Meet Reggae.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, I heard it. The reviews are good. It got like an 83 so far. Rotten Tomatoes. And I feel like it's just. That's kind of what we need, like a nice spring rom com. Very different from the drama, which was kind of a dark rom com.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Craver]

Let's just have a nice, light hearted, controversial, free.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love that.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, it seems.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it seems controversial for you.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Zendaya going straight from the drama, like, press to, like, Euphoria. I didn't think she was gonna be there because I'm like, how's she so.

[Oscar Craver]

Exactly. I was pretty gagged. And then after this, the next one, I think is the Odyssey. And that's soon. I mean, that starts in June.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's in that with her?

[Oscar Craver]

Tom Holland again? Robert Pattinson again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that crazy?

[Oscar Craver]

Matt Damon? Oh, it's a pretty Big cast. And then right after that, literally kind of simultaneously actually is Spider Man.

[Trisha Paytas]

When's June?

[Oscar Craver]

June is December. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she doesn't need that break after she does.

[Oscar Craver]

I don't blame a lot for wanting to just like hang out at home.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is good. We did say, like we watched that first episode and she's a really good actress. Really, like, really good.

[Oscar Craver]

She's gotten a lot like stronger over the years too. Like, I feel like she kind of had a lot of Disneyism still, like in the beginning of Euphoria, but now that she's full blown movie star even in the drama, like, she's so in it and she makes it so much better. She's is one of the safe bet actors. There was a list that came out from like movie theaters, like, who are the actors that like are safe bets that will like turn a profit. And it was like her. Margot Robbie, Tom Holland, Timothee Chalamet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Craver]

It was not like a ton of people. Austin Butler.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Craver]

Like this kind of biker movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Didn't it true me and Moses, Because I thought that was the hot topic of the week.

[Oscar Craver]

I'll never forget. You guys barely go out and then you came prepared with the biker movie that five people saw. I was like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like a week after Elvis came. Like, it was like we had just given birth and we're like, let's go. We need to go see it for high school. Hot topics was horrible. Love Austin Butler, but that was horrible. No. Zendaya should get an Oscar this year for something. She's so good. Do you think she'll be nominated for anything? Is there any Oscar worthy?

[Oscar Craver]

She's really good in the drama, like genuinely. But I don't know she would get an Oscar. Nom. I think she'll get a Golden Globe because they have more categories, like they separate drama from comedy and I think the drama is considered comedy. So I think she'd probably get a Golden Globe nomination for the drama, maybe Emmy again for Euphoria. Maybe. If she's really good in it. But yeah, I honestly thought challengers, if anything was going to be so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. And. But same with the drama though. They both came out really early in the year. Whereas usually the Oscar movies are towards the end when they're like fresher. Yeah. So I think probably Golden Globe. I don't know about Oscar, but at some point in her career she's definitely gonna get one. There's just no way she wouldn't change you.

[Trisha Paytas]

A biopic or something. Did she ever play Anybody, like a real person?

[Oscar Craver]

I don't think so. Yet everyone wants her to be Beyonce at some point. Whenever there's a Beyonce biopic. Because there's this one video of Beyonce when she's, I think, still in Destiny's Child or maybe, like, early in the solo careers. And literally, she looks like Zendaya. Like, it is so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Oh, I guess I could see that maybe. Yeah, Younger.

[Oscar Craver]

It was, like, this one specific angle where literally I thought it was Zendaya and her hair was, like, straight and everything. And I was like, wait, is that Zendaya? And then, no, it was Beyonce. So at some point, she'll get that Oscar.

[Trisha Paytas]

She could play me if I ever turn her into a movie. Okay, four. Starring Zendaya. That's who I want, actually. If they ever ask me again, I'm like, that's who I want. Because she's so good. You've had so pretty.

[Oscar Craver]

Quite a interesting list. You've had Rainey Rodriguez, to be used to play Carpenter. Zendaya, Romy Mars, Sophia Copelis, Rodrigo. So you've had quite an eclectic list.

[Trisha Paytas]

All of them. Any of them. I will take. Lily Rosedap, who I just saw, my close personal friend at Euphoria, Paris. I would love her. Moses literally is like, you guys kind of look like each other.

[Oscar Craver]

I knew it. I knew it.

[Malibu]

I wasn't the only one. There were so many comments. People were like, you look like sisters.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, girl.

[Malibu]

There's something about your features, especially eyes to cheekbones, that she would get an Oscar for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Put her in a fat suit, she's gonna get an Oscar for Crying on the Kitchen Floor. She would be so good. She is so good, and she's so nice. I really do love her. All right, put that on the list, too. We have a short list we'll send over to ca. These are the actresses. See who's available.

[Oscar Craver]

That casting will be very competitive.

[Trisha Paytas]

So funny.

[Oscar Craver]

I was dreading talking about this one because it is devastating news, but Love on the Spectrums. Abby and David breaking up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. Who is that? Which one is this? Love on the Spectrum.

[Oscar Craver]

You've definitely seen Abby because she's everywhere. Hats by Abby on TikTok by Abby. She was just at the Hannah Montana premiere. She, like, went up to Miley and Chapel Rowan and, like, talk to them. She, like, loves Little Mermaid.

[Trisha Paytas]

What show is it?

[Oscar Craver]

Love on the Spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know. It.

[Oscar Craver]

It's the Netflix one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

If you. She's on TikTok so much, and she's very popular. On there, she has a lot of quotes and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened?

[Oscar Craver]

They've been together five years, and the whole time on the show they've been together. But yesterday it came out that they broke up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why? What happened?

[Oscar Craver]

Some people think it's because she wanted. She was ready to get married, and then maybe David wasn't because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they young or older?

[Oscar Craver]

I forget how old. Let me see how old she is now. She's 27.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's like the time. I guess if you're together five years, you're like, okay, now we're gonna get married.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he's the same age. Good for her, though, for being like, I want to get married, you don't, so we gotta separate.

[Oscar Craver]

He's 31.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is crazy when together 5 years. I guess some people just don't want to get married. Some people do. I guess that's what it comes down to.

[Oscar Craver]

On season four on Love on the Spectrum, she did say that she. What? Her and David were not ready to get married, but they feel like they're married in our hearts.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute.

[Oscar Craver]

She said, I don't want to be a divorced lady like my mom. So that's why I said, I don't want to rush it, take my time to get married. Get married.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

But then her co stars Madison and Tyler got engaged. And then she said, hopefully, we're next. So I feel like at some point, yeah, she got the. She got the itch where she was ready to get serious and lock it down with. With a ring. And she already was kind of thinking about her wedding. She talked about where she would want it. Their first date was at the San Diego Zoo. So she threw that out as an option to go get married at the San Diego.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute. Were they engaged?

[Oscar Craver]

No, just dating. So she wanted that ring.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should. He should propose her at the San Diego Zoo. My photographer, Naz, does. She's in San Diego and she does a lot of proposals at San Diego Zoo. And what happens is she goes there, she's pretending to be, like, working for. Not pretending to be. It's not like fraud, but she'll be like, you know how they have photographers, like, oh, you guys get together.

[Oscar Craver]

So she'll.

[Trisha Paytas]

So someone will hire her to go there, like, meet us here by, like, the gorillas or wherever, and they'll be like, to just ask her, you know, say you work for the park and want to take a picture of us, and then they do the proposal while she gets the picture. And I'm like, oh, that's so smart. So if you're ever at the San Diego Zoo and need a proposal.

[Oscar Craver]

Naz, I hope David is watching this and. And gets.

[Trisha Paytas]

Get her back. Get her back together.

[Oscar Craver]

They really are.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't really know this couple, so I hope they're not problematic.

[Oscar Craver]

No, I have never seen anything problem.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah, I'm unfamiliar, but I'm rooting for them.

[Oscar Craver]

And I haven't watched Love on the Spectrum officially. I just see all the clips on Tick Tock and Twitter and stuff. It's just, they're all just so, like sweet and wholesome. And I know Connor, his sister Anna is a viewer, so shout out. She's on the show. But thank you for watching. Yeah. The last time they were in a post together, like the last time Abby posted him was in December of 2025 at Universal Studios. So it's been a minute since she's posted him. The anniversary was in July. So somewhere along the lines things must have fallen apart there.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's still young. They met young 22 to 27. You know, it's. It would be a good time, I guess, if it wasn't working or they don't see themselves aligned in the same path to break up. So maybe.

[Oscar Craver]

And she is kind of a girl right now. She's kind of like at every red carpet. Every red carpet. You can't keep Abby away. She always gets the invite and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, how do you fumble that bag?

[Oscar Craver]

Tell me. That's what I thought. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you say it when it's a. You say that bag if it's about a person. Fumble the bag or just fumbled. He just fumbled her. Oh, actually fumble the bag sounds like for money.

[Oscar Craver]

You know what?

[Trisha Paytas]

He just fumbled her.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

That fumble's crazy. That sound right?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or just like, how do you fumble that bag?

[Oscar Craver]

Fumble that bag means you effed up an opportunity and you lost money. Right. Now that I'm thinking about it fumbled.

[Trisha Paytas]

The non monetary version of the bag. Well, maybe the bag. She obviously red carpet. She gets. She probably getting brand deals. She's probably getting the bag.

[Oscar Craver]

She must have so many brain deals. Actually, I need to see those stars

[Trisha Paytas]

always do the reality or scripted reality. Oh, so it's about their life. Yeah, so they're probably. Yeah, they're probably getting paid. Always the women make more because they're the stars of the show.

[Oscar Craver]

I need to see the last

[Malibu]

red

[Oscar Craver]

carpet she was on. But I've seen her at so many different events. Like when she was At Hannah Montana. Oh, it was like Miley Cyrus was on the car.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she on the Getty? Of course.

[Oscar Craver]

She's only got it. Yeah. I want to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Paul would pick.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, my gosh. At the Empire State Building. They lit it up for her. Yes. This is her. This was her at Hannah Montana.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

I knew you would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, show me a picture to start with. She's performing at, like, the Green. She's singing. Okay, so they're. They're autistic.

[Oscar Craver]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

Respect. Love on the spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why didn't you say that?

[Oscar Craver]

I thought that was pretty apparent. Love on the spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's not apparent at all. That's crazy that that's what you lead

[Oscar Craver]

with, like, that Autistic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Malibu]

Service on the love and hate spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what do you mean, that's crazy

[Oscar Craver]

thing I was talking about?

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was a new show or something. There's Spectrum, Wi Fi. There's. You know, there's so many things that I'm like, my first think isn't to think. Oh, yeah. But when you say that, I was like, oh, yes, they're cute. Like, they're autistic couples on the show.

[Oscar Craver]

Okay, that's cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. So you're like, it's a wholesome date. Stitch Fix. Shopping is hard.

[Oscar Craver]

Let's talk about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't have time to shop for clothes. I have to buy everything in three sizes to find one that fits. They know me at the post office. Workout wear is my only wear.

[Oscar Craver]

Stitch Fix makes shopping easy. Just show your size, style, and budget,

[Trisha Paytas]

and your stylist sends personalized look right to your door. No subscription required, plus free shipping and returns. Oh, wow, that was easy.

[Oscar Craver]

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[Trisha Paytas]

like, that doesn't exist. What are you talking. Okay, that. Okay, lead with that next time. I think you can say it. Right.

[Oscar Craver]

Lead with if they're neurodivergent or not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, specifically for this show, that's literally what it's called. Yes.

[Oscar Craver]

I thought if I said her username, you would know hats by Abby, because.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I definitely don't know that she doesn't have. Like, I didn't. That. No. But if you're like, yeah, okay, now we can establish that that's. Now we need to restart the conversation, because that makes such a difference. I know who we're talking about because I think. Are they problematic? Am I defending something like a problematic guy like Dakota or Gleb or, you know, like, one of these people? So I'm thinking her partner is one of these awful men. And I'm like, maybe I shouldn't defend it. Okay. He's probably very sweet and wondering. Yes, I do know them. Oh no, they broke up. See, now I have more empathy about it. Now I'm more sadness is. That's awful. Cuz they've been on since season one. Right? They've been. Yeah. Okay, well you're knowing everything. I know the show. But you said it so casually.

[Oscar Craver]

I was like the new show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, but no one know. Like I don't know it as that. Like you just know it as a dating show. Which is cute. Which is what we love to see

[Malibu]

dating show

[Trisha Paytas]

love with each other. And that's what's cute. We love it for that reason. Right? Yeah, we talk about like whatever. That one with Nick Vile is like the creepy show. The creepy dating show. Like it's just, you know, there's certain things you label it as. The Love is Blind is the Gold cup show. Like you just kind of know because you don't know all these things. It's like this is us ends with us.

[Oscar Craver]

A gold cup.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, it's the Gold cup dj. The Nick Lachey one. Like whatever. I don't know it as Love is Blind. There's too many Love is. And Olive island and Summer House. There's just too much. So we need to specify we could be on Love on the Spectrum. Babe. I feel like our dating life when we first started was that right? Because I remember what I was like, you know, I was like, you know, it just explains a lie I guess,

[Malibu]

you know, like I guess I was self diagnosed by you later on.

[Trisha Paytas]

First of all, you diagnosed thing first because I remember being like, oh. And then you're like, I think maybe I might have this. And I was like, oh, maybe baby. Like we. Yeah. First of all, would love to be tested. I could go to a tested too. Would love to be tested. But like it is expensive to get tested to get your actual. But probably. But anyways, I mean that in a nice way and in a sweet way. Like I love it.

[Malibu]

No, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's called neurodivergent.

[Oscar Craver]

It's like that's like the general.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. Like that's what I like love about you though. Because you know, you. Yeah, the neurodivergency. I mean I'm sure you don't love my mental illness, but I have it. It's different. Neurodivergent is different than mentally ill chemical imbalance. We should have Our own show. What is that called? Where there's one neurodivergent and one mentally ill. Let's see. Love on the mental health scale.

[Malibu]

Extreme mental health.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dating.

[Malibu]

What was the name of your podcast?

[Trisha Paytas]

My Chemical Imbalance.

[Malibu]

Yes. Okay. Chemically Imbalance.

[Trisha Paytas]

I give Vulture credit for that title. My Chemical Imbalance.

[Malibu]

What dating show? Something like that. Like, Chemically Imbalance. Relationships.

[Trisha Paytas]

Done. Yeah. I had a mental health podcast for a few episodes. I've had, like, literally 12. 12 podcasts. I counted them the other day. I was like, maybe. Maybe 11. I think I've had 11. I had, like, literally, like, podcast lasted three episodes. I had some that lasted 12 episodes. I had a lot of podcasts. Is that still up, that one? The Tingles and Triggers one. It was on this channel. The mental health one was on my main channel. The lost one was on my main channel. Podcast. Anyways, we love them. We need to get them on the podcast. Mostly Abby, she's a queen. I'm so sorry to her partner, though, but he's going through something. You know what I mean? He seems so sweet. Like, I'm sure they don't want to hurt each other. I'm sure it's, you know, if it's meant to be, it'll be level. Fine way. She kind of the IT girl, too. Maybe she's too busy. Maybe he didn't get enough time with her. If she's at all these carpets and he. Maybe he didn't want that lifestyle. Maybe he doesn't want to be there out the carpets. Maybe it's too much for him, you know, to be.

[Oscar Craver]

It kind of gives me Tom Holland and Zendaya. Like, we know Zendaya have that one year. Jacob Elordi. Maybe Abby needs that one year and then realize. Or maybe she won't, but maybe she will. Maybe I like them together, so. I do, too. Yeah. Maybe she has that one year of, you know, freedom, date whoever she wants, and she's like, you know what? I miss him. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because he doesn't do the carpets with her.

[Oscar Craver]

No, I mean, the last few, she's done just solo. She's done some with him in the past, like in 2024. But they haven't even, like, been on each other's, like, socials in a few months, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we were just talking about on the Patreon Moses, like, he won't wear, like, jackets and stuff because, like, he wants to be comfortable. That's why when we do red carpets, he's all about comfort, really. Because part of the neurodivergency is the uncomfortability. Like his fabrics and if it's too itchy and stuff like that. So maybe he just needs comfortable shirts.

[Oscar Craver]

Good point.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? Because maybe if he's, like, not comfortable on the carpets, which I didn't know that about you because I was like, oh, we should get you a sash. You know, Michael Jackson wears, like, sash and tassels. And he's like, no, I wouldn't be able to do that because it's, like, not comfortable.

[Malibu]

Yeah. If it's not 100 cotton. No labels, certain stitches. Like, I have so many shirts that I just got and I can't wear.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never met someone like that. And I like the. The, you know, the fabric, the cotton and stuff like that. Like, I never met. And Malibu's wear that too. Like, very. If something's scratching me, I can, like, put anything on me. Even if it's uncomfortable, I'll just, like, sit through it. But Moses, like, literally cannot sit through, like, even the one. The Maryland ones with the bow tie. Like, you didn't have a bow tie because you're like, I just can't have a boy. I'm like, oh, wow, that's crazy.

[Malibu]

Yeah. There's so many things. And then the thing is, like, it's like, you don't. It's hard to explain the feeling of, like, up to the moment where I just. I just take it off and I feel like I can breathe, you know, like. But until then, it's always, always on my mind. It's always. That's the only thing that my mind can process is what I'm feeling, that moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that is. Someone diagnosed him in the comments. Just kidding. I don't know. I don't know. That sounds. That sounds like something.

[Malibu]

Yeah, it does. I mean, I don't need a label. It doesn't matter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we don't need a label. Right?

[Oscar Craver]

Everyone diagnosing him with a million things in the comments.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, you're right. There's no label. I just never heard of something like that. That's so interesting to me. I was like, oh, wow.

[Malibu]

It's all about, like, I don't have jewelry, I don't have piercing, I don't have ring. Like, I don't have.

[Trisha Paytas]

You hate smells. I have, like, this, like, lotion that doesn't smell like anything. He's like, that smell is crazy.

[Malibu]

You handed me the phone. I smell it. Because it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's.

[Malibu]

Your phone has a little bit of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is like the Least I. That has no smell to it. It's so. It's so wild that he's like, that's.

[Malibu]

Yeah, but same thing. Like, certain things. Like, something is punching me in the nose. And.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he used to blow out my sister's candles because he just, like, kind of do as you go.

[Malibu]

But also, I think it's a health thing. Like, I think my body feels when something is unhealthy because all of those candles, all of those scents are not healthy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can your body feel me being unhealthy?

[Malibu]

What does that mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. You said you can feel when things are unhealthy.

[Malibu]

Unhealthy. Like cancer. Like chemicals. Like, if a chemical enter my nose and it's like, not like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, could you detect if there was something unhealthy about me?

[Malibu]

I don't think you're chemically maybe cancerous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I hope not.

[Oscar Craver]

We do be drinking some crazy stuff on Patreon. Like the dirty soda. Did you sense when she had the dirty soda? Because she did put a lot of crazy things in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was awful.

[Oscar Craver]

It was a lot of chemicals in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dirty soda was awful. Which Hot Topic are you going through with this? Are you talking about Whitney or Shane or not a hot topic?

[Oscar Craver]

I was just asking.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just combusted after it. Combusted or convulsed, probably.

[Oscar Craver]

I would think combusted. Convulses like seize.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, I didn't do that. No, I did not do that. That's scary. I think I combusted after that one because it, like, made my tummy hurt really bad.

[Oscar Craver]

What dirty soda, Hot Topic? You had Whitney or Shane?

[Trisha Paytas]

Whitney is like, okay, I don't know what this means. Someone's like, oh, to get a sea ship, as in part of a company. She's like, a sea. Someone's like, that's so crazy. So she's bringing, like, a dirty soda to New York. She just did a TikTok, and she's like, I'm bringing dirty sod to New York City. And it's not swig, but it's like a swig. It's like some company that she tagged. And someone's like, oh, my God. Do you guys realize how crazy it is that, like, Whitney is getting, like, a C ship note or a C note to this company? Like, they don't. Like, you have to work really hard for it. And, like, they're giving it to, like, Whitney is like, a big deal. Any idea what that is? C note, C ship. I saw someone on TikTok talking about it and it was like this really big deal because obviously she's like, I don't know if that means a partner owner. I don't know. It's like a big deal that she's like part of this. And anyways, people are saying like influencers are now getting like the fast track to these things because of an influencer and not having to go to like business school and not in a bad way. She was just like, it's like really impressive, like the impact of like social media people have. Is there any news on it or does that fit?

[Oscar Craver]

How do you spell it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sea ship. Yeah, C dash ship.

[Oscar Craver]

Maybe that's why I looked up and I didn't see anything

[Malibu]

about ownership. Or is it like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I'm saying the wrong word. But let me see. Because it was, it sounded like real. Like this person was like a business person and she was like, like. Oh, so first.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, she's the chief creative and brand officer. So cc. Cco.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's great. Yeah, that might be right. Let me see.

[Oscar Craver]

She will oversee creative direction and menu innovation with the first move being releasing her signature drink, the Whitney I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, here's the lady that was talking about it. Oh no, where'd it go?

[Oscar Craver]

No, her Sea Suite era.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? Sea Sweets. That's what this person said.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, I think chief, like, you know, you have the CEO cco.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she's the ccr. What is it?

[Oscar Craver]

Cco.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ccbo.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She created. Here's the thing. I was seeing massive opportunity that creators have right now. It was just announced that Whitney Levitt has. Oh my God. What's wrong with me? Oh, C suite. Yeah. Understand just how close crazy that is because normally to get to a C suite of a company, you have to have years of growth and experience within corporate America, like rising the ranks. But now more and more companies are just skipping that and hiring creators because they've built such a strong personal brand. Another example. Jake Shane, C suite of a candy company. What crazy opportunities are coming to these creators too? Alex Earl just got a Netflix show. Haley Bailey hosting a Netflix show show. Alex Cooper literally talking to the Hannah Montana. The point that I'm trying to make here is that what used to take years to build up to now is who can I be a C suite of? Can I be the CEO? Can I bypass everything and just go. Cuz I'm ready. I'm gonna, you know me, I'll be eating off pizzas by the hole. As a CEO, I want to be a C suite. Was fitting.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Would make sense for you. Yeah, but you're already. You're already really busy, so that's the only thing that gives me pause. Like how you and all those board meetings for would be, like, kind of fierce, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I'll be there. I want to be in a C suite. That's so cool that she's doing it. I was like, wow, so cool. Well, Shane was also doing the dirty soda challenge, which was just a couple days after our dirty soda challenge. And we're like, although, to be fair, when we were doing do your studio challenge, I did say this reminds me of Shane. I don't know who copied who.

[Oscar Craver]

We at least did it first.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You kind of knew without me knowing. You knew without the knowledge. I had that. Shane, you thought of the idea without the knowledge.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, I was just thinking of Mormon wives, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But I was just like, oh, he loves making weird like this.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then they did it. And they're also moving and doing house vlogs, too. So you're really aligned.

[Oscar Craver]

It really does scare me. Yeah. But saying, like, we went furniture shopping kind of the same day, and I apologize for bringing them up, but I did go to the furniture store, and you know what was in that furniture store that I went to is that big horse that he bought. That giant horse still.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's still there. What furniture store were you in LA Furniture. And they have a big horse. Is the one here. Is it in Colorado? The horse?

[Oscar Craver]

I think he got it here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Because I do remember some.

[Oscar Craver]

A white. Like a big white horse. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you get it?

[Oscar Craver]

I certainly didn't. Was it too expensive? I thought it'd be more. I think it was like $3,000, but it's so big that I assumed it'd be like, I don't know, $8,000.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he always. Has always gotten cheap furniture. He loves, like, a living space, which I love too. I'm always going to the cheap place. He always loved like a Living Spaces

[Oscar Craver]

or a Jerome's Yachty. And I guess that's why I was a little spooked, because we were just following really exactly paths, like, literally. And then someone did say in one of my vlogs that I walk like Shane Dawson. And now every time I look at myself walking, like, when I'm editing myself, I'm like, you walk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, do you put your arms like this to the side?

[Oscar Craver]

I don't know. I don't know what it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I've seen you walking. We go slowly. We slowly go out of Here. But I never see you walk, walk.

[Malibu]

And nobody in the show ever saw if you have leg legs.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's like, oh, my God, that is so weird.

[Oscar Craver]

Really spooks me. I'm like.

[Malibu]

Floats in and out.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I also don't know how Shane walks. Like, I'm like, I just think of him in that paparazzi photo of him, like, running really fast like this. But, like, I don't think that's how he walks on the reg.

[Oscar Craver]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really saw him walking, too. We sat a lot. I. All of our friendship was sitting. I really don't remember, like, walking anywhere.

[Oscar Craver]

I Once I read the comment. Now when I look at me walking, I'm like, oh, that must. I just, like, assume. I'm like, yeah, that's. That. That's right. That must be happening. But I think maybe similar stature and also, like, a. A thing of wanting to not take up a lot of space. I think that's the two things that we have in common.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, as we walk, because bigger lost a bunch of ways. The dysmorphia is still there.

[Oscar Craver]

It is giving that kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Oscar Craver]

When I showed Darian, I texted this to you, but I showed Darian. I was like, look where he was. We were just us there. And he's like, well, his taste is.

[Trisha Paytas]

He did not like the gym that he just eats them up for no reason, not even on camera. But that's what you should do. You should eat people up in silence. You know what I mean? Like, I love a little sleigh.

[Oscar Craver]

I was like, oh, my God. I also never hear him talk like that. So he. It was like, oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's how I feel with Moses, too. If he ever does, like, a slay at someone, I'm like, okay.

[Oscar Craver]

Just like he never does.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So sometimes you. Mom, like, there was something crazy. I can't remember, but there was something so crazy you said, and I was like, out of nowhere. Oh, we love Darian.

[Oscar Craver]

There's another Tik Tok trend. It's kind of been around for a few weeks, but it is something I'm very passionate about. Is the. The catching print trend, I guess, that girls just discovered. Did y' all just discover it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Catching Prince.

[Oscar Craver]

Prince.

[Trisha Paytas]

What you. This is your favorite hot topic. I feel like we talk about this at least once a month. You love talking about this.

[Malibu]

And I'm like, some of the bulges. You love the bulge corner.

[Oscar Craver]

The bullet corner is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Oscar's bulge corner. Okay. What is the print?

[Oscar Craver]

Well, in my defense, it is a trend that everyone is it on Tick Tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

They would bear it. I haven't seen one of these.

[Oscar Craver]

It's like girls just discovering the. That this is a thing.

[Malibu]

Yes, I've seen some.

[Oscar Craver]

See, See?

[Malibu]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

So girls just discovered that you can kind of judge a man's penis size by that thing swinging in their pants. Because it all started when like a girl was like, if only guys had to deal with, you know, with girls, I can't hide my boob size. So, like, if guys had to deal with that with their schlongs, they would not be able to handle it. And then a dating coach reply to that, like, stitched it and was like, actually you can. And he demonstrated the science of like judging the size of a penis versus the difference in the pants. And girls were like, really gagged. And everyone was commenting on this. Tick Tock. Like, wow. Like, let me take notes on this.

[Trisha Paytas]

How is it not flagged?

[Oscar Craver]

Well, it's not showing an actual.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it showing a print for.

[Oscar Craver]

You can show print. I mean, it's a. It's the double standard. Because for girls, I feel like they would probably get flat.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm with you. I want to see the full thing. But like, you can't do that on Tick Tock.

[Oscar Craver]

For guys. I. There's so many who like, promote their like of or whatever. And they'll do it by. And they'll have like just sweatpants, no underwear, and they'll be doing a trendy dance. And so your eyes immediately are going to that thing swinging in his pants. And they'll wear like the gray sweatpants. And you kind of see everything and they'll be dancing. It's like gnarly and. And gnarly. And it's just like flapping around in there all crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, this should be on Snapchat, not Tick Tock. Snapchat is the trashy place. We keep it classy on Tick Tock where there is kids. I don't know if I like that. I don't know if I like this trend.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, it's not Friends been around forever. Since I would say maybe like the cavemen times.

[Trisha Paytas]

But girls, I don't think cavemen wearing

[Oscar Craver]

gray sweatpants, but probably in those little, like, skirts made of like, saber tooth.

[Trisha Paytas]

The loincloth.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, the little loincloths. Yeah, I know. Okay. No, in a loincloth, you would definitely are catching prints. Like, that thing is swinging.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's so thick. It's like a pubic bush in front of you. Like, you wouldn't even be able to see it.

[Oscar Craver]

But I. I don't think it's super long though. So I'm sure at some point you see something swinging. At some point you have to, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

But back in the day, I guess you were just like, naked.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, when did clothes start? Who started clothes?

[Oscar Craver]

Eve, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she was naked. They were definitely naked with leaves.

[Malibu]

That was their punishment, is to be aware of the fact that they're naked and then they started wearing clothes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you just making this up?

[Oscar Craver]

No, no, that's the Bible story.

[Trisha Paytas]

The punishment was, you're aware, gaining awareness

[Malibu]

to that and being shameful and all those things. Yeah, but before that. Yeah, they were free. They were like the animals. They were just like. Like roaming around.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know. That's weird. Who. Who gave him the judgment? Who gave him that judgment?

[Oscar Craver]

The devil that told her to eat the apple.

[Trisha Paytas]

The devil is real. All right. Damn. I didn't know that. That's weird. But I don't believe.

[Malibu]

I mean, you could have tell with Adam like how many leaves he needed to cover.

[Oscar Craver]

Probably you can count if it was

[Malibu]

like three or four, five leaves or two leaves.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right. I guess you guys are more into this different thing than me. I'm not really sure.

[Malibu]

Excuse me. I'm not leaves. You ask about Adam and Eve. I'm talking about Bible.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, why do I even.

[Malibu]

Adam in the Bible corner, not the bulge corner.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, you just added it by adding the leave measurement and just trying

[Malibu]

to bridge the gap.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, we appreciate that.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, it literally has 16,000 comments on the dating coach and or Tik Tok where he breaks down like, he'll. He has photos of different celebrities. He analyzes the print to judge how big the schlong is. And literally every comment is girls being like, okay, let me take notes. I'm getting my diploma. It's Elle woods with her like, big pen in class.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Oscar Craver]

Everyone who's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you looking at? Are you looking at someone specific or just.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, dating coach Anwar, his tick tock goes through all these like photos of different celebrities and analyzes the bulge, basically. And then based off of the bulge, he kind of. He gives a hypothesis of how. How big it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what's the consensus of that?

[Oscar Craver]

Well, now everyone is like really paying attention and catching print. That's like the thing. But then now some guys are getting upset at it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It as they should. As I always say about print. Yes. Because we talked about this with Pete Davidson. Some people just don't love the conversation.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, here's the thing with print. It's. It's not like girls with, like, big boobs because, like, no matter what you do, your boobs are going to be out and protruding. Guys have to know because you purposely. You wear loose underwear and you wear sweatpants, and then you look in the mirror like you're walking. You feel it swinging.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mean.

[Oscar Craver]

I'm sure you have to know. You just have to know. You have to know that, like, when you're wearing these loose shorts or loose sweatpants and you have loose underwear, that something is protruding. Like, you look in the mirror 100. There's just no way. Because you look to the side. You stand on this. If you look at yourself. And every guy does it because it's at the gym a lot, too. I'm always peeping someone's print at the gym, and they're all looking at themselves in the mirror the whole time. And there's no way. You don't see.

[Malibu]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I asked Moses so many times. Like. Like, you know, there's so many times where I don't know if you can see my nipples or not. I don't know if something. You can see too much of my boobs. My. My panty line. Like, I. I never know. And sometimes I go out of the house. What was the one? Oh, when we went to do those anniversary photos, I didn't have lining on my skirt, so I went to. When I went to the bathroom after doing photo shoots at the Four Seasons, eating at the Four Seasons, I went to the bathroom, and my whole. Is out. It's black underwear underneath this white dress. And there's. There's not an extra layer there. And I was like, why would y' all tell me my cheeks are out on this family photo shoot. And what was your excuse? You were like, oh, I thought you knew. It's very much what you're saying. Oh, you have to know. Well, no, I didn't. Why would I go out with my three children? Like, that's like. It's so crazy. I mean, it was like a brief. It wasn't. Whatever. But I was supposed to have another lining underneath. And I was like, why would you let me leave with my black underwear showing?

[Malibu]

Wait, what? No, you were. You put it on for a second. Just for a moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, babe. My anniversary dress.

[Malibu]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We walked through the Four Seasons to take pictures in it. We took pictures in it. We went to the restaurant. Then I got up to go to the bathroom, and I was like, oh, my gosh, My all my underwear is like shown, basically.

[Malibu]

It's not. It's showing. If somebody looks under, like, it's not showing.

[Trisha Paytas]

But again, it's something I would rather have had covered. Unless you like, didn't notice it. But my point is I did not notice it and it was really bad.

[Oscar Craver]

But that's the back, right?

[Malibu]

Nobody wasn't visible. If you're looking at her, you have to like, like any other stuff. Short skirt. Yeah. See through.

[Trisha Paytas]

My dress was see through. There was supposed to be another tool underneath the dress because in our wedding photos it was an extra white. This one is black underwear through a white lace dress, which is like not the worst thing, but it's a family photo shoot. And it's like, well, I wish I would have like, you know, had that extra layer or put on some white shorts or something, you know, but it wasn't.

[Malibu]

You're describing it as if it was. It wasn't visible. You had to really look to understand what you're seeing. Because. Because the dress was black and white and it looked like it was part of the dress, I guess. But it didn't look like that. It wasn't like, like we were out and everything was fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nipples. I mean, so many times I'm like, are my nipples showing? Cuz I just. I don't know. You don't see it. I feel like sometimes you just don't know or you don't think about it. I mean, now we're getting to the point where I'm like, okay, can you see nipples? Do I need covers? Do I need bra? Like you get to that point.

[Oscar Craver]

But, but you know, if you. When your boobs look big in something, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even then I'm like, do I need a bra? Like, I, I don't know. I'm like, I don't think I need a bra. But then people like, no, you should wear a bra with that. Like, literally Ari will tell me, I need a bra and I love it. I need the honesty because, I don't know, some reason of awareness. I, I disagree. But you think?

[Malibu]

I have a prediction. Soon we're gonna have a Kim Kardashian underwear for men that has the print

[Trisha Paytas]

in them for underwear or strap sweatpants.

[Malibu]

Just like she did the nipple bra. Oh, she's gonna make it swinging, though. Well, without the swing. But it will be the print.

[Oscar Craver]

I see kind of like definitely in underwear campaigns where they stuff the, they stuff the brief so it looks bigger, like the package, like Justin Bieber.

[Malibu]

It's the equivalent of a push up bra. Yeah, for men.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cool. They should. She should do that. But it's just, like, not that big of a deal. If it's like, not huge. I just. I know you're into the print, but I'm like, I don't need to see it. I don't care to see it. It doesn't matter. Well.

[Oscar Craver]

Well, it's a revolution. Girls are really catching on. But now, like, some guys are getting really defensive, like, oh, like, you can't come and objectify us by looking at our schlongs. But it's like, well, women have been dealing with it since Adam and Eve.

[Trisha Paytas]

That doesn't mean it's okay.

[Oscar Craver]

But a little reparations don't hurt anybody, I think. And if you're so modest about it, then just wear brief. Like, wear briefs. Don't go asking for it. Don't have that slong. Ain't swinging around your.

[Trisha Paytas]

They can't help it.

[Oscar Craver]

Especially.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's really just God given. It's not even like they asked for it.

[Oscar Craver]

But, like, if that's the case, then tighten it up a little bit. Get some briefs on. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not body sh.

[Oscar Craver]

If you go commando in those sweatpants and you're at the gym, I feel

[Trisha Paytas]

like no one should be objectified. I'm stand by it. Pete Davidson said it makes him uncomfortable.

[Oscar Craver]

I think some people deserve it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Our difference of opinions here. I feel sad. I feel like. Or penis. Oh, my God. I'm just talking like you. I hate the term too. Oh, my God. Did I just say that? I hate it. Just say D. D. Is that what. Is that what they're saying?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, everyone just calls it D. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

D is, you know, it's all right. It's just, you know, it's just a part of you. It's not who you are. You know what I mean? Like, everyone's just so, like, oh, big little crooked.

[Malibu]

I mean, the key is really to find your match because, I mean, either way, like, you don't want to be false advertising yourself because you find out. So it's not like, yeah, you don't like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And some girls. Yeah, some girls are like, tiny and some girls have gaping holes and whatever the fit is. Right. Like you said, find the right fit. Literally. And whatever fits you, it fits you. And it is about finding it is.

[Oscar Craver]

Don't acquit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who said that?

[Malibu]

Oh, Jesus.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like his lawyer said that. I feel like OJ did not say it.

[Malibu]

About the glove. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one? Who said it?

[Malibu]

The saying is about the glove.

[Oscar Craver]

But who Said the lawyer, I would think, right?

[Malibu]

Yeah, I think it was the lawyer in the closing statement.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think Kardashian was the one testifying.

[Oscar Craver]

Work. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Shapiro, maybe.

[Oscar Craver]

Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

I watched the Ryan Murphy. I think John Travolta's character with the heavy eyebrows said it.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe.

[Oscar Craver]

That's always historically accurate.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we always rely on Ryan Murphy for everything. Who played OJ Simpson? Was that Cooper Gooding Jr.

[Oscar Craver]

I think so, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember the one about Bill Clinton. Did you ever watch that one?

[Oscar Craver]

He had a Ryan Murphy show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Monica Whinsky was played by Beanie Feldstein.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, I kind of remember that.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like Clive Owen was like Bill Clinton.

[Oscar Craver]

I haven't really been seated for Ryan Murphy in a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those are the OG ones.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have loved to play Monica Winsky. That was like, my dream role. She was like my inspo for my memoir. I used to, like, love her memoir as a kid. And I like, God, I wish I could play Monica Winsky. Beanie Feldstein. Damn. She gets all those roles. I know.

[Oscar Craver]

For the same roles.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love her. Let's ask her. Sure, she can come on the show. She's so good. She's such a good actress. Jonah Hell. Secretly married. I just saw.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. With a kid.

[Trisha Paytas]

Two kids.

[Oscar Craver]

Two kids. A second kid. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Out of nowhere. That's another body shaming people do. Got everyone just like, he looks so weird skinny. Like, Jesus. You just like, he's so fat now. He's so skinny. Like, people are so mean to him. I feel bad for him. God, it's like. I mean, I guess he was kind of awful to that girl, but still. Probably because everyone's awful to him. I, like, needs to flex control somewhere or something. I don't know. Like, he seems like he gets beaten down.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. T. I mean, Meghan Trainor, too. When a fat gets. Megan wasn't even fat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not even.

[Oscar Craver]

But just loses too much weight. Although Melissa McCarthy, she didn't lose too much weight, so everyone's happy with her weight loss.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Craver]

Although very.

[Trisha Paytas]

The recent one, everyone's like, oh, she got. Got, like, Joe skinny. And I was like, okay. Like, she's. I don't know.

[Oscar Craver]

You can't please anybody when people make fun of you when you're big, but they hate to see a big person look thin. And then there's thin people getting too thin. People hate that too. So. I don't know, girl, just keep it pushing. Be healthy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

Take care of yourself.

[Trisha Paytas]

Eat.

[Oscar Craver]

You gotta use something you do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Otherwise you die.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

What are you eating today?

[Oscar Craver]

I was thinking about that on the way here. Actually, I was quite hungry, but then once I start talking, I forget. But when I think about it again, I get hungry again.

[Trisha Paytas]

A protein bar.

[Oscar Craver]

You have it on your protein kick lately?

[Trisha Paytas]

I had 60 grams yesterday.

[Oscar Craver]

That's wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you have, like, 250 grams in a shake.

[Oscar Craver]

It depends when I'm really locked in or not. I haven't been super locked in on my protein this past couple weeks, but I'll get there. I'll get back on your level. I'll be Trish Fluence.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. Malibu was Trish Fluence yesterday. In and out. She had, like, two. Two beef patties, but no burger, no bun. She doesn't eat the bun. She just eats the beef patties. I must have said it, like, one time. And I watch myself so much. But today she's like. I said, what do you want for lunch today? And she's like, burger. I was like, okay, we have burgers yesterday, but you want burger again. She's like, yeah, it's protein. And I was like, did she hear me say, like. I would never have said it to her, but she must have heard me say it somewhere. I was like, what? She's three. I was like, all right, girl, let's get that protein in.

[Oscar Craver]

She's growing.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is growing. She loves a burger and no bun. I'm like. And that. You know, I don't eat like that. So I was just like, wow, that's.

[Oscar Craver]

You know what's funny? My nephew is the same way. Where he doesn't, like. He doesn't like bread. Like, he. He likes burgers, but he hates the bread that's on it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, who are these kids?

[Oscar Craver]

I know with Sam, if he gets, like, a chicken sandwich, he'll make us take the chicken, like, filet out and just eat the chicken. Hates bread.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I love it.

[Oscar Craver]

This new generation, he just made it up. Yeah. Because we always offer him, like, grilled cheese. He can't have a grilled cheese because the bread. Yeah, it's really weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. My mama really doesn't eat, like, a lot of bread, I guess either.

[Oscar Craver]

I don't know where it came from because we be eating bread.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I know something genetically, in the new generation, I guess is, like, not.

[Malibu]

Not about it. I think at that age, sage bread is just boring, I guess.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. No flavor. It doesn't really bring much dry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Unless that Panda Bono bread. Oh, I haven't posted that. Four Seasons brought Back Panda Bono after your outcry, I swear. Because it was the same.

[Malibu]

I saw a comment somewhere on TikTok that said that they work there and people told the chef and they brought it back.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy, because it was our same waiter who broke the news to us that it was no longer there. I was like, wait, were you the one who knows there's no Panama? He's like, yeah. And I'm like, you don't have any, do you? He's like, actually, we do have a limited. And I was like, what does that mean? Like, it came back. It was good. We had two orders of it.

[Oscar Craver]

I thought it was. This one was funny, but it's not really tea, but it is silly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

Christina Aguilera had her little Michaela Nogueira moment because she allegedly did a hair care commercial, but wearing a wig. It gave me so much. I love Michaela Naguera, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the ultimate hair care, is to wear a wig. What is she. What was she doing? Shampoo.

[Oscar Craver]

She was doing conditioner shampoo and styling products for Nexus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she, like, massaging it into the wig?

[Oscar Craver]

She's posing down with the product, like, pretending to squirt it in her hand, and the hair is laid, so she's

[Trisha Paytas]

not even, like, applying it to the hair.

[Oscar Craver]

It's a still photo shoot. It came. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that's better than, like, oh, watch me put on the mascara. And then, like, a lash appear or whatever, but, like, still love it. I'm not shading it, but, like, at least she's not, like, washing away. She's just like, look at my fierce hair and this. This product.

[Oscar Craver]

And she got, like, a lot of backlash, like, on the Instagram comments. But someone did come to her defense and said that it is pretty common for wigs to be used on shoots. Like, this kind of gives me, like, when people advert. Not people, but restaurants advertise food, and it's not the real food. It's like, you know, the prop food or whatever. That looks real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What do they say? I always. I watch so many behind the scenes where it's like. It's not syrup, but, like, oil going over. It's like a black tar, and it's like, oh, that's how you do it. Or the butter is, like, not butter. It's like something else to make it look like that. Like it's fondant or something. Yeah, no, that's. But that's always the case.

[Malibu]

Also, some wigs are real hair, so you would treat it exactly like you would treat your hair.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Malibu]

And I'm sure in commercial of that level, they're using real hair.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is actually a great point because Tony washes my wigs all the time. He's always washing, he's always putting product in it, styling it.

[Malibu]

Like he wouldn't use a synthetic wig for something like this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What do they want her to shut out? Like people from the wig community. You know what I mean? Like, it's like include everybody. Everybody has if wig is hair. If you buy a wig, that's your hair and it needs care too. And shout out Nexxus for being forward with that. If you need me. I have plenty of wigs. I would love to do it. Oscar wears wigs. You can also do it.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah. Now you looping me into yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now we're the Nexus hair campaign. We're gonna do a wig campaign together for Nexus. I love how forward it is. You know, I just have to.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, that kills there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I love Christina.

[Oscar Craver]

And then I had another really random one, a quickie. But Shiloh Pitt, Angelina Jolie's 19 year old daughter, she got cast in a K pop music video mine. And that would actually be so gag because the casting director for this one said that she just applied at an open call. She applied, she got the role. But they didn't know who she was. They just like casted her base.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it is mine. We're filming mine Tuesday. Is it mine?

[Oscar Craver]

I would be so gagged.

[Trisha Paytas]

We did do a casting. Maybe she'll be in it. That is actually filmed.

[Oscar Craver]

So fierce. Well, she did do a. A K pop video for Dayoung music video for what's a girl to do. And yeah, I think they must have realized somewhere along the process though because people started reaching out like press started reaching out to the record label asking about like Shiloh being in it. And they're like, we just had an open call and she applied.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Craver]

And she does dance. Like she used to do videos, you know when like they do tick tocks, whatever from different dance studios. Like she was in some of those.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I have seen those. Yeah. Where they do the three people at a time. Yeah, those videos.

[Oscar Craver]

So she does. She's done those before too at like one of a dance studios in la. So I think think the we should

[Trisha Paytas]

do that for Patreon.

[Oscar Craver]

Do a dance studio.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Do a little sidebar. We should go do it and be in a trio and have get one of those dance videos made.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, I would love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're a good dancer. Okay. Ennis note that for one. Cause we easily could. You know who. We could go to Cedric's class because they always have people filming.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, I would love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, we should do that. That'd be so fun. And we can do it on Patreon. Cause it's not copyrighted. Okay. We have to do it. He does classes every Tuesday, Wednesday.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, I would love. I've always wanted to do one.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'd be fun.

[Oscar Craver]

I'm not a good dancer, but I like the idea of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I'll tell him to do like a cat's eye routine that day or something like that. So you get the two.

[Oscar Craver]

The Pinky up one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Is that the new one?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, I just saw Oscar crave have your statement saying that you're not gonna have your pinky up or something.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, my pinky. I can't have my pinky up while the. A cat is down Manal. But I am. I'm trying to still be supportive because I still love the other five girls. Like, I feel bad because I love everyone that's still in Cat's Eye. But I just. There is an emptiness in my heart when I watch the video. Like, it's hard for me to fully get into it because I feel like something's missing. Like some like, even just not hearing her voice in it. Like, I. I clock it immediately.

[Trisha Paytas]

So are we doing Pinky up or no?

[Oscar Craver]

To be determined. I'm trying to get into it. I'm trying to still be supportive of my girls. But it's tough. It's tough out here.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right.

[Oscar Craver]

But yeah, Shiloh ended up eating. She's really good.

[Trisha Paytas]

You saw it?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

The video is out. The K pop video?

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah, Day Young's video. She has like, like, like she has like a dance break number. I could tell. Like, it wasn't like a purposeful nepotism thing because she's kind of just there in the ensemble dancing. Love that she has like one close up in the teaser. But it's just because I think she just looks good. Like, she's has like, iconic looking face.

[Trisha Paytas]

How old is she now?

[Oscar Craver]

She's 19 now. She's tall. She's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

19 is crazy. It is. It's Angelina's or it's both them.

[Oscar Craver]

Brad. But she. It was she original. She was going by. And Shiloh Jolie, Pitt. But she dropped Pitt last year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why?

[Oscar Craver]

I think all their kids are all closer to Angelina and they're dropping a name is crazy. Yeah, because I think there was the whole, like, legal thing between Brad And Angelina a year, maybe two years ago now, where they got into an altercation, allegedly, I guess, on a plane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Oscar Craver]

And I guess they, like. I know they went to court. I think they ended up settling or something, because they were kind of battling over who was going to get the. The vineyard in their vineyard that they own.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Oscar Craver]

They're battling over that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

But, yeah, the kids dropped pits.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that'd be so sad, because we have. Our kids are paid as Hackman. And what if they dropped one of our names? I'd be so sad.

[Oscar Craver]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that's a statement. That's, like, unfollowing. I don't want this name. Actually, I'm dropping it. Oh, no, that's sad. I know.

[Oscar Craver]

And she does look like Brad. I mean, all this, like, publications were putting, like, the side besides of her and Angelina, and you could definitely see it. But she. She looks a lot like Brad, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's their baby. They had a baby together.

[Oscar Craver]

Mm. Yeah. They adopted other children.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they were all adopted.

[Oscar Craver]

Shiloh is her biological child with Brad.

[Trisha Paytas]

They had a biological child.

[Oscar Craver]

She was pregnant during Amanda, if you remember that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, I don't. Were they, like, bumping bellies or something or.

[Oscar Craver]

I just remember her doing the press tour, and she was pregnant with Jack Black.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. That's cute. Jack Black has got everywhere. He's like Forrest Gump. He's just been through every decade of everything. He's everywhere. I love him. We got him on the pod. Trisha, Jack Black, and Jack White. I do like them. Ever since their SNL thing. I'm a new Jack White fan. I just.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Moses, like, knows him or something. And I was like, okay. We discovered that last Hot Topics. He's like, oh, yeah, I know him. I'm like, oh, okay. Can you get him on the pod?

[Malibu]

Sure. Let me check my phone.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, I thought he really was gonna do it. He's psyched. He's psyched out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you know. Oh, do you have one?

[Oscar Craver]

No. I mean, I was debating. The last one I saw was a little too debaucherous, I think, for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know what it is, because we almost did it for the Patreon. I thought it was too debaucherous for Patreon. I was like. I was like, no, we can't summon. Our words are too powerful. When we speak about something, we.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, now, which one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Were you a person I once knew?

[Oscar Craver]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I feel like mentioning a name, singing a song.

[Oscar Craver]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy.

[Oscar Craver]

It Was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw in Moses. We saw it separately and like, we're gonna say anything. And I was just like. Because it is, like, awful. But it's like, you know. You know, you don't ever want to be that person. Like, wow, obsessed. But it's like. But that's. That's crazy, right? Like, that was so weird.

[Oscar Craver]

It showed up from on my fyp, us talking.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm scared. I'm scared to mention I didn't think

[Malibu]

it was real at first.

[Oscar Craver]

When I saw it, I was really confused. Yeah. I showed up in my FYP and then I almost sent it to you, but you were at hacks and I was like, let me not send this cursed energy that way. Like, at such a glorious point.

[Trisha Paytas]

But cursed energy. Like, I thought it was an old clip. Like, I'm surely. This is an old clip. Like, circle like 2013 or something like that. I was like, oh, no. This is like, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is anyone talk. Like, does anyone else talk about it?

[Oscar Craver]

It was all over Tik Tok, but I don't know if it broke the

[Trisha Paytas]

mainstream or how about even Drama Channel News?

[Oscar Craver]

I was going to say about it. No. But he's been moving, so he's been a little. He hasn't been as on it, cuz he's been moving apart.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I feel like once he talks about it, we can talk about it. I don't want to be the first Adam cover. Yeah. I was like, I don't want to talk about it

[Oscar Craver]

anyway. If, you know, you know, kind of a thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I suppose that's where we leave it.

[Oscar Craver]

I guess it was a little spooky. I was gagged. I was gagged.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think. Okay.

[Oscar Craver]

And you guys can context clues. Which former Tris Cinematic Universe influencer who loves Little Diddy. A song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. The way you said that was so weird. A little diddy. Jesus, stop with these little ditties. Because wasn't that. This was a song. Right? This was a song too.

[Malibu]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're just like, what is wrong with you? No, but like, right, like, you got canceled multiple times for all of this songs going awry. The subject matter, like, how are you still. It's actually insane. Like, I honestly think almost like worse than Club Aquila. Like, it's just, you know, because it's like, I just don't understand. You're like, I've changed, I've grown. I'm different,

[Malibu]

but still with the same sense of humor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it even sense of humor? It's also just like Real. And it's just like spooky. And I'm just like, is everything okay? It's not. And I'm scared and I'm scared to even talk about it. I don't need JoJo coming for me. I don't want anyone coming for me. It's scary and it's not okay. But we don't want to say the name. You know, I think I'm most scared of this person.

[Oscar Craver]

This scary corner took me out.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had bulge corner and now we're in spooky corner. We're in the spooky corner of the podcast. I know. We need good, positive energy. Oh, my God. Sage it curse corner. Yeah.

[Oscar Craver]

Where.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where do we. Where do we go positive from there.

[Oscar Craver]

Have a good time at Coachella, everybody.

[Malibu]

Oh, I guess we hope you had a good time.

[Trisha Paytas]

We hope you had a good people.

[Malibu]

Go to the second week.

[Trisha Paytas]

My best dressed at Coachella was. I loved Hannah McCoa's outfits. I loved.

[Oscar Craver]

I'm gonna say Tari. I mean, because, you know, I always love when she's gonna wear something like kind of rainy with big boots. I love big furry boots in the desert.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I would say Vanessa Hutchins come back. I really liked her coming back this year.

[Oscar Craver]

Baby, I don't know. She going to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

She can be there with the baby in the sling predicting this early. Yeah. With the headphones on. She's going to be there. Party rocking.

[Malibu]

Anyways, I liked Hillary Duff's performance. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. You think she's going to be a surprise guest?

[Malibu]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did you see this somewhere?

[Malibu]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just made this up?

[Malibu]

Yeah. Cuz isn't she doing tour performing? So, you know, it's a perfect time to be a surprise guest somewhere.

[Oscar Craver]

Slater. Slater brings out Hillary Duff. I actually could kind of see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm. What a great weekend it was of surprise performances. Loved all of them. Oscar will be there this week. If a brand was to take.

[Oscar Craver]

No, he said I wouldn't be there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Maybe for the right price. They pay you to go. Most people want to get taken covered, but nobody's going. We hate Coachella. Just kidding. But I'm glad you guys had a fun time and we'll see you soon. I can't wait to go to New York and be back by next week. It's gonna be so much fun. And that's it. Do you have anything you want to add? You got horses on your shirt. Anything you want to say about that?

[Oscar Craver]

It's just a Taylor Swift shirt. I was trying to find an artist that is at Coachella that I have merch of. And I've worn every cat's eye shirt on this program already. So that was it.

[Trisha Paytas]

See if it. Taylor Swift. Is she a horse girl?

[Oscar Craver]

You know what? Why is there a song called White Horse? It's back in her country day. This is from her country era.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses, why do you have a white lotus on your shirt?

[Malibu]

Oh, manifesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

They already went to Thailand because I see it looks like a Thailand thing.

[Malibu]

Yeah. And go check out my link tree.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's all put our link trees in the description box. Not sponsored, but maybe they'll put a billboard of us again in New York City. That is a cool idea. I wish you would actually put it to you somewhere where people can take some of the links off.

[Malibu]

Oh, well, I'll try maybe in 12 at the grocery store.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's why I always get my babysitting. Not babysitting, but back in the day you could put babysitters on there. I don't think you do that. I don't do that anymore, but I'm just saying. All right, Love you guys. Let. Is there anything we should edit out? You want to tell Jimmy? Did I say anything stupid?

[Malibu]

Well, we'll say it off.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you know you have a note.

[Malibu]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whasker. If you have a note, you can say it. I don't know what I said. I probably said something dumb anyways.

[Oscar Craver]

Think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can get Jimmy. You can.

[Malibu]

I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyways, Jimmy edit me will make his own. I know there's some things I'm probably like, okay. Mo's probably like, stop talking. That's it. We love you guys. We'll see you in a couple days on Thursday. Love you. My favorite day of the week. Bye.