Chappell Roan Goes OFF + Hudson Williams Calls Out HEATED RIVALRY Fans | Just Trish Ep. 258

Summary

Just Trish – March 12, 2026: Pop Culture Potpourri, Paparazzi Boundaries & The Madness of Modern Fame

Episode Overview

In this lively, no-holds-barred episode, Trisha Paytas is joined by co-hosts Oscar Gracey and Michaela to riff through a kaleidoscope of pop culture topics: reality TV (heavy on 90 Day Fiancé), the economics of social media and virality, celebrities’ relationships with privacy and paparazzi, body image discourse, and (as always) the hottest trends on TikTok and YouTube. Trisha and friends weave in brutally honest takes, industry insider chatter, and plenty of playful, meme-worthy banter.

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Key Topics & Discussion Highlights

1. Manifestation & Clickbait Fears

Timestamp: 01:45 – 03:09

• Trisha recalls her “clickbait” era on YouTube, worrying that negativity brought more loneliness and bad vibes into her life.
  • “I used to love clickbait, but I think I manifested my own negative destiny… it just made me more awful and lonely.” – Trisha (01:52)
• Manifestation powers: recent “coincidences” post-podcast leads Trisha to declare herself “very witchy.”
  • “Anyway, I am very powerful. Very, very witchy, if you will.” – Trisha (02:44)

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2. Social Media Shadowbanning & Algorithm Woes

Timestamp: 05:05 – 07:00

• Trisha laments TikTok and YouTube shadowbanning suspicions, low reach, and demonetization despite innocent content.
  • “I think I’m shadow banned. I’m still gonna chug along.” – Trisha (05:57)
• Michaela theorizes TikTok “punishes” successful weeks with algorithmic down weeks.
  • “My theory is…whenever we have a really slay week, we kind of get punished for it. The following week is so low.” – Michaela (06:14)
• Complain about TikTok/YouTube recommendations not surfacing their own/friends’ content.

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3. Vlog Life and Influencer Hustle

Timestamp: 04:11 – 05:05

• Trisha and Oscar debate the viability of full-time vlogging, Patreon exclusives, and platform cross-promo.
• Humorous discussion of “shadow-banning” culture and what gets demonetized.

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4. Plans Ruined: Sold Out Disney 5K/Marathon

Timestamp: 07:00 – 07:58

• Trisha and team sad that the Disney 5K sold out after hyping it to listeners—a running gag of “our impact!”
• Jokingly decide to run their “own marathon” in the park if necessary.

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5. Pop Culture Roundup: Reality TV and Internet Oddities

90 Day Fiancé Deep Dive / Messy Men, Messier TV

Timestamp: 20:13 – 32:05

• Vivid recap of 90 Day Fiancé "Single Life" — Colton’s drama, cheating scandals while being incapacitated.
  • “He can’t walk. She has to dress him…broke, no money, just zero micro penis, erectile dysfunction…” – Trisha (22:48)
• Discussion of the wildest storylines and why “women can do better.”
  • “Even if you’re like a 2 as a woman, you can still get a 10 man.” – Trisha (25:11)
• Extended praise for the “Before the 90 Days” season—a “magnificent” spectator sport, especially the Lisa-in-Nigeria saga, with bathroom disaster cold-open comparisons to Bridesmaids.
• Tangents to other TLC shows and the famed circus element.

TikTok/Internet Gossip

Timestamp: 127:10 – 128:36

• Malibu Fit Max saga—he claims injury for his plumped looks but later admits to cosmetic procedures; double standard in how men vs. women are treated for lying online.

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6. Health, ADHD, and Adderall Talk

Timestamp: 09:21 – 11:12

• Musing about ADHD diagnosis, medication benefits, and productivity tropes.
• Trisha curious about Adderall: “It does sound like something I could probably benefit from…” (10:44)
• Lighthearted recognition of being “flighty” and the strengths/struggles of neurodivergence.

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7. Gaming: Struggles with Fortnite, Skins, and In-Game Shopping

Timestamp: 11:12 – 13:57

• Trisha on late-night solo Fortnite gaming, skin collecting, and lingering gaming confusion.
  • “I wanted to maybe stream it. I couldn’t figure that out either.” (11:47)
• Michaela, Oscar, and Jimmy’s spending habits in online games.
  • “If you think I’m bad, let me throw Jimmy Wetzel under the bus—he really drops a bag on a skin.” – Michaela (12:57)
• Trisha boasts of newfound fiscal restraint IRL even as skin-buying temptation abounds.

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8. Oscars Gift Bag Recap: Ridiculous Luxury, Prenups, and Perks

Timestamp: 39:56 – 44:56

• Michaela details this year’s unofficial Oscars gift bag: custom prenups, lipo, luxury trips, culinary indulgences.
• Trisha recounts her experience trying to secure a prenup while in debt:
  • “The lawyer was like, $50,000... And I was like, lady, I’m a million dollars in debt.” (44:03)

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9. Body Image, Postpartum Life, & Diaper Advocacy

Timestamp: 48:04 – 51:47

• Trisha extols the virtue of adult diapers postpartum, proposing her own fashionable line:
  • “I want to wear them as an adult, so I really want to do an adult diaper…Skims diapers…I want to model it.” (48:21–52:55)
• Discussion about spaying/neutering, menstruation solutions, Diva Cups, menopause, and the everyday struggles of periods.

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10. Paparazzi, Privacy, and Fame: Chapel Roan, Ariana Grande & Beyond

Main Segment: 77:43 – 90:11

• Chapel Roan vs. paparazzi at Paris Fashion Week—she flips the lens, posts their faces, sets boundaries.
  • “Don’t film her. Like, just, you know... She has her boundaries.” – Trisha (78:32)
• Comparison to Dua Lipa’s Paris experience.
• Discussion of European paparazzi’s aggressiveness, Princess Diana’s legacy, and why Chapel’s approach is reasonable.
• Boy George’s commentary on accepting fame (contrasts 1980s vs. today), and Trisha’s disagreement.
  • “Also it's not the 80s…less people are asking for that photo, so it's not as invasive… now, literally every single person with a phone…” – Trisha (84:29)
• The importance of boundaries for celebrities; Michaela asserts, “She is shaking the table and… it is working.”

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11. Internet Fame, Clout, & Social Circle Cloning

Timestamp: 54:19 – 57:48

• Trisha and Oscar ponder the omnipresence of influencer Jake Shane—“is he a clone?”—and the phenomenon of certain creators suddenly being everywhere.
  • “How are you doing all of this physically? You’re literally one person... Is he a plant?” – Trisha (54:48)

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12. Award Season Hot Takes & ‘Club Chalamet’ Discourse

Timestamp: 59:56 – 63:37

• The Timothée Chalamet ballet controversy: Is it that serious, or are we humorless now? Disbelief at people being offended by an actor’s dismissive ballet comment.
• Double standards of men “leveling up” in famous relationships—Trisha flips the mainstream narrative about Chalamet and Kylie Jenner.
  • “Everyone just thinks of them as equals... she’s definitely the billionaire goddess.” (61:32)
• Oscar: “Kardashians are an empire… they built it on reality TV. You have to be super smart.” (63:05)
• Kylie’s acting potential—Trisha predicts, “Kim’s one dimensional but Kylie…acts out.” (65:26)

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13. Parasocial Fans, Shipping Drama, & Heated Rivalry Fandom

Timestamp: 106:13 – 110:58

• Michaela and Trisha discuss toxicity in the Heated Rivalry fandom; statements by cast members push fans to stop bigoted, parasocial, and abusive behavior.
  • “Don’t call yourself a fan if you share a racist, homophobic, biphobic, misogynistic, ageist, ableist, parasocial, bigoted comments of any kind.” – Michaela quoting Hudson Williams (107:07)
• Reflections on shipping gone awry and fans “infantilizing” celebrity relationships.

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14. Baywatch Reboot, Casting Gossip, & Body Positivity in TV

Timestamp: 122:32 – 133:31

• The surprising Baywatch reboot on Fox, with Gen Z names like Noah Beck, Shay Mitchell, and a wide age range in the cast.
• Trisha hopes for size diversity (“Will they go woke and have a curvy girl?”), skeptical but hopeful.
• Tangent about buoyancy, body positivity (“fat people can be lifeguards!”), and floating contests.

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15. Viral TikTok Trends & Internet Oddities

Timestamp: 127:10 – 129:59

• Malibu Fit Max and the perils of online embellishment: he claims injury but later reveals cosmetic enhancement.
• Discussion of “pickled”—lingo and semantics.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Even if you’re like a 2 as a woman, you can still get a 10 man. It’s just not the same. The equivalent is just not there.” – Trisha (25:11)
• “The lawyer was like, $50,000 for a prenup… lady, I’m a million dollars in debt.” – Trisha (44:03)
• “If it happens, it happens. But if they’re in a relationship, don’t stalk anyone. Let them live. True love is respect… I have nothing but respect for my kings.” – Trisha, on shipping and fandom boundaries (118:53)
• On Chapel Roan’s boundary setting with paparazzi:
  “She is shaking the table and I don’t know, changing the status quo a bit. But it is working. It has that trickle down effect.” – Michaela (87:07)
  “Maybe you love fame, Boy George, maybe Kim Kardashian loves the paparazzi, but not everyone loves that part of fame.” – Trisha (85:59)
• “When you grow up as influencers, it’s different. Like growing up in the Shane Drew world, everyone’s always videoing you.” – Trisha (73:26)
• “I want to wear [diapers] as an adult—I really want to do an adult diaper…Skims diapers…If I can be the face of it, I want to model it.” – Trisha, on normalizing adult diapers (48:21–52:55)
• “Fat people can be lifeguards 100%. I could be and just grab onto some flotation devices—my belly, my boobs, my thighs. It’s all just floating there.” – Trisha (132:01)
• “Don’t call yourself a fan if you share a racist, homophobic, biphobic, misogynistic, ageist, ableist, parasocial, bigoted comments of any kind. None of us need your hateful ‘love.’” – Michaela (quoting Hudson Williams) (107:07)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:52 — Trisha on manifesting negative clickbait
• 04:11-05:05 — The daily influencer grind and vlogging career
• 05:57 — Shadowbanning suspicions
• 07:00 — Disney 5K sign-up saga
• 13:07 — Gaming skin addiction confessions
• 22:25 — 90 Day Fiancé cheating scandal discussion
• 39:56 — Oscars gifting suite rundown, cost of fame’s perks
• 44:03 — “I’m a million dollars in debt” prenup anecdote
• 48:21 — Adult diaper advocacy
• 63:03 — The Kardashians as media mogul empire
• 78:28 — Chapel Roan paparazzi drama
• 87:07 — How celebrity-set boundaries trickle through industry
• 107:07 — Heated Rivalry cast calls out fandom toxicity
• 122:32 — Baywatch reboot, generational casting, and representation

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Tone & Language

The hosts maintain trademark Just Trish energy: bold, campy, irreverent, with moments of vulnerability and surprising depth beneath the celebrity snark. The language is authentic to each speaker, veering from wild gossip into candid anecdotes and earnest asides about boundaries, fame, and the price of virality.

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Final Thoughts

This episode hops from pop culture chaos to thoughtful commentary on the realities of internet fame, personal boundaries, and the toll of always being seen. The banter is rapid-fire, and no subject is too silly or taboo: whether it’s adult diapers, celebrity prenups, reality TV catastrophes, or the inner workings of TikTok’s algorithm, everything’s served with Just Trish’s signature blend of honesty and humor.

Transcript

[Michaela]

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[Trisha Paytas]

And the. And the lawyer was like, $50,000. Like, just a retainer just to hold for now. And it might be more than that. And I was like. I was like, lady, I'm a million dollars in debt. And she's like, well, I don't know if you need a prenup. And I was like, oh, yeah, some assets.

[Michaela]

I know Moses has been eyeing that Chanel birdcage purse. Come on. Hashtag justice for Oscar. Because she did admit, like, she got all these comments about, like, oh, the marketing of, like, announcing your dating and releasing her perfume and Did I clock that? Yes. And what did you say? No, she's always releasing something. Hashtag justice for Oscar. Because Michaela herself admits that's part of her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all gossips, Filthy rich Hot Topic queen and says what everybody thinks. She's just Trish. Yay. Hello, and welcome to another episode of Just Trish. Justin, me here today, nobody else. We're doing a solo one. Just gonna riff off myself. Today's Hot Topics is. God, I don't even have any.

[Michaela]

And that's the show, everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even have an old one.

[Oscar]

If you had a clickbait, it'll be that Oscar left and Oscar left. No, we can't manifest that, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

I used to love clickbait, but I think I manifested my own negative destiny back then because I'd always just be talking how awful and lonely I am, and it just made me more awful and lone.

[Michaela]

I know sometimes when it's so slow, I'm like, it'd be so funny if we did the. Like, Oscar and Trisha unfollowed each other what's going on? But I guess so. I do get scared of them. Your manifestation is just too powerful. So it is a little scary. If it was anyone else, I'd be like, let's do it. That's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

So powerful. Like, what was it? Oh, after we did the Sniff podcast, the next day, the guard calls, and he's just like, have a special delivery from Sniff. And usually it's just like, if it's a delivery. It's a delivery. I was like, that's so interesting. And I was like a flower bouquet from sniff. But there was something else we did. And like, literally the next minute, remember? I don't know if we can.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it was nothing. Scheduling yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, maybe that, but there was also something else. And I'm just like, wait, that was. Oh, was it?

[Oscar]

Yeah, because we were driving home, talking about schedule, and then it happened exactly how we thought it would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. But there was like a good one that happened too. And I remember being like, wow, it's so powerful because I, like, had just talked about something and then, like, something came through. Anyways, I am very powerful. Very, very witchy, if you will.

[Michaela]

Yeah. From your lips to gauziers, honey. Like something you have the direct line.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

Patience, full skill. Scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. It is, actually. So we are good. We are good for another at least five years, I think. I think we're in the five year plan. Maybe ten.

[Michaela]

Yeah, why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't foresee it ever ending. The only way I see it ending is like, if podcasts are like, not a thing. If YouTube's just like, no more podcasts or something. But then we can pivot. Yeah, it's always something, right? Everyone wants a TV show, but then outside, everyone wants a podcast, we'll be on snaps.

[Michaela]

Oh, my God. Imagine us on Snapchat just running amok. Why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

That'd be great. I did go to Erewhon this morning and I was like, maybe this should have been a Patreon, because it did feel not as exciting without you. I got the. I can't shut the drink, but I gotta get a Barbie smoothie today. And it was good. They're celebrating Barbie. It's Pattaya.

[Michaela]

What the. I don't even know what a Pattaya is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't either.

[Michaela]

Is that a fruit?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm assuming because my vegan friend Ari knew what it was.

[Michaela]

Okay, work. Sometimes I feel like erwhan just be making up fruits and veggies willy nilly.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it made pink. It made a very pink pink. And I did have the Japanese fluffy pancake and I. But, you know, I didn't think they would have it. They did have it, but I did feel like you should have been there. Nobody was there. Like, empty today.

[Michaela]

I guess lunch is the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's right in the middle.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like breakfast and lunch.

[Michaela]

Those LA girls are still waking up. You know, we're not gonna see Kayla Malik, 7am I was there at 9:45

[Trisha Paytas]

I was there bright and early. Do we have announcements? Patreon.com just trish bonus video. Go check out me trying to fish UK show Roy Albert hall is sold out, but there is some VIP left, so if you guys want to get those, check that out. And May 5, Netflix is a joke. May 9, I'll be in Indio, California. The Palmetta Fantasy Springs. And me and Oscar, both vloggers. I have blondes on del form. J. Oscar is Oscar Gracie. And we're both. We're both vlogging full time. We want you guys to be our full time Oscar considered last. Was it Patreon? Was it last extended episode where you thought maybe you're gonna give up your other job to be a blogger?

[Michaela]

Is. Were those my exact words?

[Trisha Paytas]

Paraphrasing. But you said maybe. You're like, right. Am I making that up? Was I off exposing something I should expose? Okay.

[Michaela]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess I did. The thought did sit with me for a second. I guess so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

But I guess we'll see it maybe when I get to two vlogs and I can contemplate it a little bit more. I don't know if I should go all in at one vlog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe not yet.

[Michaela]

Maybe not yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me neither. Honestly, like, I. My blonde Sandel, I'm like shadow banned on blondes. I. I used to hate when people like, I'm shadow banned, you know, But I actually am, I think on TikTok too. I'm getting like 20,000.

[Michaela]

I literally like see you advertise it like a main channel video and then I'll go like, search and you know, on tik tok on YouTube, like, you

[Trisha Paytas]

see it on YouTube. And I'm like, hey, go check out my Tik Tok.

[Michaela]

I no like, I see for blond Sundoll from mj. I. When you like when you post a story about your vlog, like, oh, let me go find it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it doesn't show up.

[Michaela]

It doesn't show up in my recommended. Which is weird considering I'm like my algorithm. Also, every video or stream, I somehow, like incorporate you into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it. I love it. I'm always like, wow, I'm in a thumbnail.

[Michaela]

Somehow, some way, I find a way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think I'm shadow banned. I'm still gonna chug along. I think ones on the form day is definitely shot by. I feel like my TikTok's getting shadow band because I did a story. I was like, hey, guys, I don't think anyone's seen my story. They all went. They're like, yeah, I didn't see this. I came from your story. And it just sucks. I love both of them so much. So unshadowed. Axum definitely.

[Michaela]

Shout out band TikTok. It goes up and down like, you'll have your slay week. My theory is, and it's just from operating and making concept for a brand account, whenever we have, like, a. Like, a really slay week, we kind of get punished for it. Like, whenever we have a slay, like, big weekend for, like, an award show or something, the following week is so low. Like, nothing even gets in the algorithm. And I'm like, not all of it is shot. Like, sometimes I'm like, oh, that's really funny. Like, how did this job.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, My health and wellness one's always kill. I always get, like, half a million million. And it got like, 30,000 views.

[Michaela]

Tick tock. Likes to humbly. I feel like maybe it's psychological warfare, like, kind of. You're so. Like, don't, you know, think that you're all. Yeah, you're not the it girl. Because guess what? We can take it away.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's very true. I haven't. I've been humbled, but I've been posting, like, it was, like, my job, and it's literally not. None of mine. None of you monetized. They all say, this video is disqualified. This video is qualified. And I'm like, it's literally. There's literally nothing. And it's like me making, like, leprechaun popcorn with Malibu, and it's, like, disqualified. I was like, all right, so every single one. I think there is a glitch. I reached out. I haven't heard back, but same thing with Disney. You guys, sad news. We can't run that 5k unless someone has a lookup because the 5k is sold out. Was it sold out when you looked it up on our Tuesday episode?

[Michaela]

I don't remember, but probably, I would assume. Yeah. Because of us. Yeah. Our impact.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's like, we're all gonna run that 5k. I'm so sad. And the next one's not until 27.

[Michaela]

Yeah. But I know Harry Daniels has a Disney. The Disney hookup, so I might just text my sister. Harry Harold Daniels.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to get that marathon. That 5k. At least. Not the marathon.

[Michaela]

Yeah, if not, I guess we can just buy tickets to the park and then just run our own.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're just coming early. No, no.

[Michaela]

They can't stop us from going. A little power walk.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just don't know how fast we're gonna go with people in the way.

[Michaela]

That's true. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we're gonna slow down a

[Oscar]

little bit, but it makes it more interesting.

[Michaela]

True. It's like an obstacle course.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm down. I know. I was about to also risk it all for the five nights at Freddy's Lash at Pizza. I was very excited about this in Riverside. I was gonna go today. I was like, we're go for Patreon today.

[Michaela]

It looked really fun. It was a whole FNAF experience. It looked like the real deal. Like, it looked like the movie.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

With animatronics. It was kind of like, it looks a little like hokey dingy, whatever. But that's kind of how the movie is. And then the animatronics walking around. But Jimmy investigated, and the animatronics were only there for the opening.

[Michaela]

Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. But slash Shout out Slasher Pizza in Riverside. I was. I was ready to go drive. Two hours. I sent it to Jimmy and Oscar yesterday. I was like, I need to go, because then you guys would be excited.

[Michaela]

I missed fnaf even though it just came out in December, but I never

[Trisha Paytas]

saw the second one.

[Michaela]

It is out now, probably on Peacock or something, honey.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I want to watch.

[Michaela]

Tune in whenever you feel like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will. I think, like, last week we had House made. I think this week watched fnaf. I think we're, like, catching up slowly.

[Oscar]

We need that movie Sinners. We need to watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let's do that first because it's Oscars this weekend, so we'll do Sinners. I do want to watch Frankenstein because we both love Guillermo del Toro and I love Jacob Lordi right now. So I. I think that's another one.

[Michaela]

And I love Mia Goth, But I haven't seen. You haven't seen it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I'm surprised.

[Michaela]

It's very long.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, how long?

[Michaela]

It's like two and a half hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Avatar.

[Michaela]

Yeah. Actually Avatar is like over three, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you sat through that.

[Michaela]

I did, but I had to take a lot of bathroom breaks to get the blood to my legs. I used to really be good at, like, being locked in for a long movie. I blame. I do blame the short. The short form media for really ruin it, for ruining it for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I do love to just boop, boop, boop.

[Michaela]

And I hate being that way, but it's rough. And I have adhd, I suppose, so that doesn't help either.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, I'm sorry about that.

[Michaela]

Thank you so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

ADHD is not fun. That's the one you can't focus. Do I have it at the one you suspected I had to.

[Michaela]

I. Maybe so. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hope so. I love that I can because I am like, is it flighty? I don't want to offend anyone that has it. Is it like being a little flighty?

[Michaela]

Yeah, just a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, where are we?

[Michaela]

That forgetfulness for sure. I mean, I'm. It really comes into play for me when it's like I rem. I forget that I'm supposed to like, follow up with people or con. For me, it hits the most with emails, administrative stuff. So the fact that you can really get through administrative stuff undiagnosed, whatever, is fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Same with mild.

[Michaela]

Jimmy without medication, can lock in and edit. And that's like, really admirable because I have to literally like, like pop a little addy and then get to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It sounds exciting. I've never done Adderall, but it does kind of sound exciting to just like lock in because people are like, I just like, organize my entire house on Adderall. Like, it does sound like something I could probably benefit from.

[Michaela]

For me. Yeah, yeah. Like, my whole personality is very different. Like, Darian notices immediately take my medication because I'm just like, just a little all over the place and extra therefore as well. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why there's medications.

[Michaela]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Us not even acknowledging your cosplay, by the way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know. I had to take a little break from St. Patrick's Day. I wanted to do St. Patrick's Day. I'm gonna do it on Monday. I do wanna do St. Patrick's Day. But, yeah, I did get a little into fortnight last night.

[Michaela]

Yay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, I had that skin and I never used it. So I was like, let me. Let me play a little. I can never get out of that damn helicopter. But I get out of the helicopter and then I don't know how to turn around. I don't know how to pick up a gun. I don't know how to do anything. I really have been trying. I played for about an hour and a half. And yeah, it was like I couldn't sleep last night. Like, the kids went to bed early, like 9:30. And then we were up for a minute, like 10:30. And then I was like, I'm just gonna get up and play a little Fortnite.

[Michaela]

Okay. Gamer.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I wanted to maybe stream it. I couldn't figure that out either. And I couldn't figure out how to pick up the Uzi. Is that what it is? I don't know what it is, but I. It's not my. I wanna. I wanna like it, but Kim was fierce and I. My sister got me this skin. It's probably not even out. I got this back in January when it was like a thing. And I'm like, can you even buy the skins anymore?

[Michaela]

The skins rotate. It was in the shop like a couple weeks ago, so not that long ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, not sponsored by Fortnite, but she. She ate on that Fortnite with all the jumpsuits.

[Michaela]

I know the skins were fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

What skins do you have?

[Michaela]

I. I am the Michaela Narra of Fortnite skins. Unfortunately, like, I do black out every now and then, and I. I do, I do of skin.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have all of them.

[Michaela]

Not a lot, but every cute girl know that I have her. Okay, Chapel's in the shop.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's in Fortnite.

[Michaela]

Oh, yeah. She's the festival season. So I best believe I got Chapel. I got Sabrina. There's a Rumors are Larson's coming. You better believe I'm going to have her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you know, I always am. Like, what does Oscar spend his money on? And then when you all say these little, like, side quests.

[Michaela]

Jimmy is the worst, though, not to spill his tea. But he. If you think I'm bad, let me throw Jimmy Wetzel under the bus because he really drops a bag on a skin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Like, how much money you think you spent?

[Michaela]

Or because you dropped 50 bucks the other night on skins for another game called Overwatch. And I was like, well, you're worse than me. I was like, you and Trisha are giving this crew a bad name with your over consumption.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I tell you what, I don't spend more than $50 at Target anymore. When we go to Target, I have a $50 cap. And if it's over 50, I'll put something back. And I have no problem doing it. I'm like, you know what? I need to stop the spending.

[Michaela]

And I was like, mentality with Dior.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I did blackout. It wasn't my fault. I did black out. And I'm done. Now that Shamrock season's coming to a close, I am done. I needed a call to me, Shamrock season's not over because St. Patrick's Day is on the 17th. And that's when I do predict I will win the lottery, so it won't matter. Then I'll have my. The Dior will be nothing. And I can donate to everybody else in the world that needs help at this Time. So I'm gonna help other people, too. I'm gonna be philanthropic about it.

[Michaela]

Okay. Work. That's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we're all gonna win. When Trisha wins, we all win. I have to figure out a way, because I do. You know, when I see those comments, like, me struggling to pay rent, and you know what? I'm gonna help you out. I just gotta figure out how to do that. But I think when I win the lottery, I can have a manager help me do it. Because I don't know how to, like, do I just pay the rent or do I just send the cash? It's very. It's very difficult, but I'm gonna do it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, usually you put. When you have a lot of money, it's like an endowment. You put it in an account that makes certain interest and then it keeps paying so you can keep helping people. So it's not. It's not like you have a certain amount of money and you just still. You run out of it. You create something that can keep going and keep helping people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. And I was going to buy a little Starbucks card yesterday and put it on my story and be like, okay, just use what you need from this. But then I feel like someone's going to take all of it, because I wanted to do that at Target, too. And I was there yesterday, still canceled. I don't know. Are they okay now? Did they hire?

[Michaela]

I don't know. It looks.

[Trisha Paytas]

We have diverse. Diversity is there.

[Michaela]

It's like every corporation. This probably is problematic. Take. But, like, I work for Paramount, which also has, like, Drag Race and spongebob and blah, blah, blah, but they are owned by some suspicious people and also roll back their dei. So it is, unfortunately, a lot of corporations.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Michaela]

So it's tough. It's tough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry, y'. All.

[Michaela]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I support. I support that. I support dei.

[Michaela]

Yes, me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I support.

[Michaela]

Yeah, but it's tough, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think the, like, employees at Target aren't the ones responsible. It's like the higher ups, you know, because they're just.

[Michaela]

Yeah, it's tough because it's like so many companies, and if you think, like, oh, like an Amazon, there's so many that end up being problematic. So, yeah, like, Twitch is owned by Amazon. So therefore Twitch, like, yes, Actually, everyone

[Trisha Paytas]

come for me for shopping Target. It's like, how many of you are shopping at Amazon? Okay, let's. Let's be real. Jeff Bezos driving to Tesla. Okay. You know what I mean?

[Michaela]

Like, let's be on Twitter, like, Everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

There.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, you got me.

[Michaela]

Meta TikTok is also owned by Paramount. Like it's all. It's tough, it's all you can do is try your best and help people directly. That's all.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, Target does slay. They do slay. I do love a Target, but not that part.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you know, I think our Target's okay. I think our local targets. Good. Because it's diverse there work. Yeah. So I think they're abiding by it, which is good. Which I love. Like I love. Okay. Can I say that? Right?

[Michaela]

Ok.

[Oscar]

I love it.

[Michaela]

Diversity, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

If I didn't, I wouldn't shop there. If I didn't see diversity, I'd be like, right. You know, you don't want to give 2 mega at Target. You're just like, okay. No, there's diverse. We're all here together. We're all right. Stop me if I should not say something, but okay. I support it is what I'm saying.

[Michaela]

I support diversity.

[Trisha Paytas]

Diversity, yes.

[Michaela]

Yup.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which we all should. And that's today's lesson. It does, you know, that's it. How's your shirt? Where's it from? Where's your shirt from? Oh, sorry. I went back and forth my adhd. Sorry. I do like both of your shirts. When you came in, you were giving. You're giving grandpa, but you're also giving 1950s heartthrob. Like you're giving both. Grandpa. In a good way. Grandpa chic.

[Michaela]

Mine is. I have to learn the name Elfric Eden. I don't know. I saw it on Instagram. But also Tick tock. I think it was the double whammy of being marketed towards on both apps that really sold me on the website.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I like the corduroy. I like that it's cats. How many cats you have?

[Michaela]

You have one or two in my own personal life. Yeah, I have two cats.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what kind are they?

[Michaela]

One is a Scottish fold and one is just from the streets. Orange County.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're just talking about that earlier.

[Oscar]

Yeah, diversity.

[Trisha Paytas]

Diversity, yeah.

[Michaela]

Because one is white and then one is brown and white.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you can go to Englewood and get more cats and adopt them. More DEI diversity there. Yeah, got lots of them. There's something. Okay. Diabolical. I know.

[Michaela]

I'm scared.

[Oscar]

I was like what you were asking me about my shirt. I wanted the dark shirt so I can show my. Have you heard about. Cuz I finally joined the community. Have you heard about the gloving community?

[Michaela]

If the glove don't fit, throw them

[Trisha Paytas]

out in the trash.

[Oscar]

You don't know about the gloving community?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Let's hear it, babe.

[Oscar]

You. You see it. You don't hear it? I don't think if you go to a rave and they come to you and they, like, hypnotize you, it's almost like asmr, but it's visual. I still have to learn all the moves. You know, there's like, specific moves.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think I use those for asmr.

[Oscar]

You use these ones?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. I was like, I think.

[Oscar]

I think these are yours. But I mean, they're not serious. This is amateur gloves because the lights are just kind of, like, random. These are the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you buy those specifically or. We had them.

[Oscar]

That's part of the initiation for the gloving community. You can't join the gloving community without the gloves. Like, that's the first thing you have to get.

[Michaela]

Sounds a little elitist, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Well, if you. And they can banish you and then you get de gloved. But don't look it up. Do not look the gloving. Do not look it up because you might see something else. But anyway, babe, we were on such

[Trisha Paytas]

a good streak here. You and me, we've been on a good page. Like, wow, Me and Moses are really vibing.

[Oscar]

No, but it's part of my, you know, like, think. You see the sign bar back there? How about that?

[Michaela]

This is a new era. The glove era.

[Oscar]

This is the straight corner here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Immediately banish Jimmy. Put it to dark, black out the camera. We will keep it here. Oh, my gosh. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

Okay, well, anyway, so you asked me about my T shirt. That's why I wear a dark shirt. So it will show more of my gloves. Back to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good thing you're here. Oscar for the last. Because I just don't know if I have it in me today.

[Oscar]

In fact, first of all, this is very serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had a great morning. We had a great night last night. Like, everything's great. Oh, my God. Look at us vibing and then this. Okay, I don't know what to say.

[Oscar]

Were you talking like I farted or something? I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, babe. Speaking of farting and erectile dysfunction, did you see Colton?

[Oscar]

They're very connected, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you been watching the Colton 90 Day Fiance?

[Michaela]

Yes, of course. 90 Day Fiance, the Single Life. Although I did not see yesterday's or I'm on HBO schedule, so it comes out on Tuesdays for me. So I'm one behind.

[Trisha Paytas]

She kicked him out. Spoiler Alert.

[Michaela]

Damn. I saw that in the preview. I saw that that was coming in the preview. He, he's diabolical.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Michaela]

her house, in her parents house, mind you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even worse, she's taking care of him. She's literally like, he can't walk.

[Michaela]

He's like incapacitated, Incapacitated she has to wash him, she has to dress him.

[Oscar]

Like, what happened to him?

[Michaela]

He was on a spin off show and he slipped and fell walking outside. And then he needed like surgery on his leg so he can't move.

[Trisha Paytas]

Karma. That's karma. I don't care what anyone says. Like, honestly, karma, because he is like, literally the biggest piece. But it's like this girl that he's staying with is gorgeous. Obviously the girl is talking. He's gorgeous too. Like, he's talking to these like, like gorgeous women. And I'm just like, you're so ugly and awful and I have nothing going for you. Broke, no money. Like just zero micro penis. Erectile dysfunction. He says it too. He's like, I can't, I can't do anything. So I was like, what?

[Oscar]

So was he using a microscope to send her the videos?

[Trisha Paytas]

Zoom zoom feature. I, I, I don't, I'm like, is this a real person? This is not a real person. This gave me a real person. I think on TLC. What is 90 fiance on? I think, yeah, TLC's crazy. I, yeah, Chelsea's wild. You just gotta be like, really fat. You just gotta be a little bit eccentric to be on there. I don't think they take anyone that's just like, you know, I don't know.

[Oscar]

I think they brought back the My Strange Addiction.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did they?

[Oscar]

I think so. I think it's back.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was on that pilot episode that sold it. I was on Discovery House. No. I was so fun. I remember one time we were gonna do a reality show and they're like, well, TLC is interested. I'm like, no, no. What do you mean? That's the only one that's interested? Absolutely not.

[Michaela]

That's kind of like the circus over there. You're seated for the circus. The clowns, the monkeys, the lions. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we were. This is when we're the million dollars in debt. This is when we have nothing going for us. This is pre podcast. This is pre the other pod, like calling podcasters pre everything. We're like, we're doing anything and everything. We're like, whatever we can get to maybe get something going. And even then I was like, no, I cannot take a meeting with TLC. That's actually insane. What are we gonna be on? 600 pound life sisters. Because they now they lost weight and they need someone to replace them. No, no, no. Absolutely not. No way.

[Michaela]

The lovely tlc. If you no need someone to be in the audience for the reunion. Oh, I'll be seated. Me And Ross Matthews. Come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you should host it, though. We love Ross, but in case he can't make it, we gotta fill in right here. You would be actually so good. Did it. Is it Kevin from Entertainment Tonight? Didn't he host it at one point?

[Michaela]

Maybe Because Sean is from Access Hollywood formerly, so yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or maybe he did. What's the other one? We watched babe where they get married at first sight. Maybe. I think, yes, he has. And I was like, oh, that's. I love the. The cross.

[Michaela]

I know. Like, come on. I'm also a journalist. Must throw me in there. I'll put my hat.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should honestly. Ashley House, 90 fiance. I would read all those. Colton, I just. I can't sit him. That's my hot topic. I just. I like, I look at him and I'm just like disgusted but also more. More sad for these women. I'm like, women, let's do better. Because even if. Okay, they're like tens, but even if you're like a two as a woman you, like, you still can get a 10, man. You know what I mean? It's just not the same. Like, the equivalent is just like, not there. You know, like, you don't need to settle for less than what you are.

[Michaela]

It is crazy. I don't know what kind of hold he has over them, but let's wake up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not a cold.

[Michaela]

That's for sure. Not hypnotized. So what is it? I don't know.

[Oscar]

The power of tv. Reality tv. A little bit of fame.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's like so many. Like, good. Like, better.

[Michaela]

Like, she's also from the show. Like, she's another. Yeah, because it's the single life, so it's different. It's like people. People from the franchise.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, hers didn't work out, so.

[Michaela]

Yeah, so she met. Yeah, she met him on another show. But because she was also. Her other relationship didn't work out, so. Yeah, she's also from the family.

[Oscar]

That's even worse because when you get a show, you're. It's over, you know, like, and you try to hold on whatever fame or connection you can. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think they. That's where they messed up. They. It's like two Americans. They need to go find another person from a different country because that usually works better, you know, finding someone from a different country. You know, I think it's. It's. It's better. They just love America kind of sometimes. But it's also like not American dating. I like dating in America is crazy. Like that. No, it's actually the worst because they just don't care about anyone but themselves. They're fat and lazy and awful. You meet someone from a different country and they're just like. They just know how to, like, treat people like human beings, you know? Feel like here in America, people just, like, are all about themselves and just. You know what I mean? Just like I. I hate them, you know, not hate them. That's a strong word. I strongly dislike. I wouldn't recommend dating. How about that? You could do business with, I guess, if you want. But don't date.

[Michaela]

Okay?

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't cross pollinate.

[Michaela]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, maybe one American. But it should. One person should not be from.

[Oscar]

Diversify.

[Trisha Paytas]

Diversify the dei, you know what I mean? Like, one person should not be from here. Okay? And I think we learned that with Colton. This lady is like, yeah, you guys went the wrong way. Like, you need to go the other way. Like, the show says you need to go. Yeah, outsource, if you will.

[Michaela]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Work.

[Michaela]

Although I will say 90 day fiance. Before the 90 days. Like, if you girls are into mess, like, that's the program this season. You need to be seated for. Which one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one?

[Michaela]

90 Day Fiance. This current season of before the 90 Days Now. Oh, this is where it's at, ladies. And if you watch it, you know there's about 13 episodes right now, and each one is magnificent. There's not one dull episode. Each 90 minute episode has me breathless. Like, I literally am, like, gasping for breath. It's, like, so cinematic. It's so unbelievable. That's the Lisa with the wig. The girl who wouldn't take.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I live for her. I see her all the time. It's always Lisa's going lower to Africa. There's been like three Lisas over there.

[Michaela]

Yeah, that's true. And I Isn't there? Wasn't there Daniel, also from Nigeria? This is Lisa and Daniel from Nigeria.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw Michael from Nigeria is divorcing. Oh, God. Who's the big lady that lost the way? She was big. She had, like a smoker's voice. Do you remember her blonde hair? It was Michael. And what was her name? She was awful. She treated him like crap. He was a lot younger. He wanted a baby. She was like 65. Like, girl.

[Michaela]

Oh, Angela.

[Trisha Paytas]

Angela. They. They finalized divorce. And the Michael's just like, he posts on Instagram just, like, cheering. And I was like, yes, because Michael was so sweet. I will say I probably would have, like, taken a trip over to Nigeria to meet someone because, like, I feel like those men are a lot, like, nicer I feel like I met Moses right at the time I got 90 fiance. But if I hadn't met him, I probably would have tried to go over to Africa somewhere. One I want to go to Africa. I think it looks beautiful too. I think finding like a Nigerian man, you know, one in person. Not obviously someone like, over the phone. Because I know they have that trope that they could be like, scammers, but I think that's the ones on Facebook pretending we giant up. But the ones on the show are so nice. Like, Michael was so nice to Angela and she would, like, treated him like crap. Like Michael. How dare you talk to someone. It's just like if you talk to, like a per. Like a sister. She got pissed. So did not like Angela. Some of those women on there are a little diabolical.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

She's gonna come for you. Who? Angela.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, girl love you. But you treated him like the divorce came out of nowhere. Now it's like you treated him like crap.

[Michaela]

You know, I need you to be seated for this season because I don't even know how to get into it. Like Lisa, like, just the tip of the iceberg.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she good or she's. She's the worst. Right? And he's good.

[Michaela]

He. It's equally diabolical.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's happened that way.

[Michaela]

They're both kind of lying to each other, scamming each other because she does love him. The law here. They. He found her on Facebook, pursued her. She was a lesbian. Still kind of considers her lesbian. She has a daughter, but she's a lesbian. She's been married four times to women. She's still married legally. She goes to Nigeria to meet him. He proposes right away. She accepts. So she's engaged to him without telling him that she's actually married to a woman. And gay relationships are not okay in Nigeria. It's a big no. No. So that's kind of where we're at right now. She's finally in V. Like, she started ripping the band aid off after 13 episodes, mind you. First that she's married, and then he's freaking out. He's like, so I'm sleeping with another woman? Another man's woman?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, no, another woman's.

[Michaela]

Exactly. Yep. So that's what. That's where we're headed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she have to tell him? Because why? How would he know?

[Michaela]

Well, you. You. I don't know if you want to start a new. Not even a new relationship, but if you want to be engaged to someone on. Based on lies and then. But like, Also, the show is going to come out at some point, honey. So you're going to be like engaged with someone. And then he's going to find out that you A, are married, B, a lesbian. And also you can't apply for a K1 visa when you're legally married.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she doesn't want to live over there. She wants to bring him over here.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say, if you're just gonna move to Nigeria, forget your life here. Just start the life in Nigeria. Yeah.

[Michaela]

No, but she's got a daughter and everything back in America. Faith. Shout out Faith. Love you, Queen.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I mean, would they have the kid? Like, their kids always seem so normal and like level headed.

[Michaela]

FaceTime. And Lisa, she's like, girl, how are you not telling him this? Like, I told you not to go over there and get engaged because you're married to a woman. And Lisa is not listening to Faith. You guys, I'm telling you, if I can influence anyone to do anything in this world, maybe a vote and then B, watch 90 Day Fiance before the 90 days. This current season, I don't know what number we're on, but this season is like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

It kind of makes me want to watch it.

[Michaela]

Perfect television. Like 90 minutes of just incredible TV. You won't believe your eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're kind of influencing me because I did love. I loved all those too. It was getting overwhelming because There was like five 90 days and so we couldn't keep up. But you're kind of influenced.

[Michaela]

I mean, I'm new, new to the franchise. I've only seen a handful of seasons at this point, but of all the TV I've watched, this kind of is peak. Like it is the most incredible. And I'm only 13 episodes in. I think there's still another like seven to 10 episodes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what's great. They do go on forever. Yes.

[Michaela]

There's some dastardly couples, though. There's a girl named Trish, spelled the same way as you. She's from Madagascar. Yeah. She's gorgeous. She's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's Madagascar?

[Michaela]

It's an island.

[Trisha Paytas]

A real place. I know, but I thought it was fake. Like Zootopia. Where's that? That's not in the map.

[Michaela]

It's an island off of Africa. Yes, it's an island off of Africa. She's gorgeous. She's so, so gorgeous. But her man Rick, he's from la. He sells wigs on Tik Tok or something. He is just so diabolical. I can't even really get into It. But there's just. There's something for everyone in this season. So y' all go be seated for before the 90 days.

[Trisha Paytas]

It always. The other Lisa from the season I'm thinking of with Usman. Like, her son too was so normal. He was like so good looking. So normal. He's like, mom, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing with this guy? Like. And it's just so crazy. These parents, I think, you know, it's wild.

[Michaela]

Also, Lisa, I have to tell you guys this too. Like, this is again me playing to. Everyone watches literally the last episode. It just. The cold open to the episode was Lisa, who's in Nigeria, waking up with Daniel. And she at the bed. She bed in her sleep. And she said, like, I was trying to get up and I was waking Daniel up. And I kept that. Like, she like, was just all over the hotel. And that's how we started the episode. She. She said those Nigerian spices really got to her. Mind you, she's been in Nigeria for about two weeks at this point. But. But it was the most unbelievable TV I've ever seen. Like, I. I can't believe this is. This programming is exists. Like, I'm so thankful. Yeah, I'm so thankful.

[Trisha Paytas]

What kind. Was it just like a leakage, like a drainage? Or was it like turns.

[Michaela]

Nothing was shown. But the way that it was described did sound, I guess, kind of like. You've never seen Bridesmaids, have you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Michaela]

Okay. It gives me Melissa McCarthy bridesmaids.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. In the scene. In the scene.

[Michaela]

That's kind of the vibe that was.

[Trisha Paytas]

And how did he react? Act.

[Michaela]

He took it, I guess, fairly well. He said he got all over him. He did say that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Michaela]

I do think he has a little bit of ulterior motives.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's just. This is like a epidemic because I follow a tiktoker who's like super cute and young and she's like super fit and gorge and blonde and like, she was dating. They're like, okay. I felt like southern tick tockers. So it's like she's from the south and she was dating this other like, hot guy from the South. They're both like, super hot. And she finally, like, met in person. They were dating for a while for like a few months. And then they broke up. And he's like, I broke up with her. Because, like. Or no, he didn't break up with her. He's like, I stayed with her even though she. I bet. And I had to clean up her poop. Like, I had to wipe her poopy butt. And then she didn't deny it. She's like, well, I would wipe my friends poopy. But, like, why is that such a big deal? But I'm just so confused why everyone is pooping the bed. What is going on without a medical condition. Like, obviously, if you have something wrong with you. Yeah, but, like, this is normal health. Not normal. Like, just, you know, there's nothing wrong.

[Michaela]

Average. I don't know. Is that the average experience? Not mine, thank God. But me neither. I. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never done it. I've never done it. No, Never. Not the bed. Maybe, like in the car, if you're trying to hold it, you're in traffic. But like, the bed and everyone's doing it with their loved ones. With the romantic.

[Michaela]

I brought it up on not love line because I am intrigued by Tana Mojo channel Marie Mojo's take on it. Because we do know that she. She's more like. She loves. She loves to key over. Over number two.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. They. They. They definitely, like, fart on each other. We talked about yesterday because the money blanco shake. I'm the last person to ask because

[Michaela]

I was gonna say I was a little concerned when I was thinking about it. I was like, I don't know what that I do not would be into, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they're like, we do it on purpose. We do it to be funny.

[Michaela]

No. No, ma'.

[Trisha Paytas]

Am. Yeah. So she might have a different take. She might be like, yeah, I would clean up the poop on his bed if most of just pooping the bed. I don't. I don't know what I do. Maybe get someone to help, I suppose. Get like a helper in a separate room. Like. I don't know. I wouldn't. I'm not. I'm not doing it. Not now. Not maybe 80 or something. Okay. And even then, maybe I'll get, like, someone to help. He's out of the room, but he's opening something. Something came. Some delivery came.

[Michaela]

He even like as a pet animal. Pet. A pet animal. A pet caretaker. My cat has, like, the. They have the automatic litter box. I never have to deal with it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's nice. So. But where does it go?

[Michaela]

It goes in, like a waistband. So you just throw out the waist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it just, like, evaporated.

[Michaela]

I wish.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that anything fun to show or.

[Oscar]

I think it came from Logan. I think it's a Demi Lovato new book.

[Michaela]

Oh, her cookbook,

[Trisha Paytas]

Patreon.

[Michaela]

That's a good idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to make an Agree. We need to find ingredients.

[Oscar]

I mean, the main thing is pasta right here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she looks gorgeous. What is she eating? And what's the. What's the gimmick of this one? Is it just her favorite? Is it healthy? Or is it just like, like, I. I'm over healthy cookbooks. I want someone just giving me the butter and all of it. Although this healthy, I'm for it. Ooh. Okay. Love that little apron. Wow.

[Oscar]

Recipes for finding freedom with food.

[Michaela]

Oh, it is your 5. Emphasize joy over perfection. Focus on one's healing one's relationship with food.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love.

[Michaela]

That's amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. What are we making? Where is it? Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

This is so. The first picture is this chicken. Oh, I want to make that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Then there's cooking with Demi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, God, she looks gorgeous. I want a cookbook. They look so pretty. I mean, I can't cook.

[Oscar]

I mean, the recipes.

[Michaela]

I bet you'll post

[Trisha Paytas]

like, wow, she looks so stunning.

[Oscar]

It's nice that every, like every recipe you get to have a picture of yourself.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. No, I need that. This is so pretty. I. We need to make everything. I want to get Remy's cookbook, too. I love that everyone's doing cookbooks. I need to do that.

[Michaela]

Okay. Yeah. This really is your vibe. Everything from breakfast to dinner, comfort foods to fast food, inspired favorite soups to salads, and even sweet treats.

[Oscar]

Look at those sandwiches, the way they wrap. This is your sandwiches. This is what I make you every weekend.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I love it with the paper on it. Wow. I'm so excited to make these. All right. Done and done.

[Michaela]

One plate at a time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Ooh, that looks delish. God. Whoever photographs those are beautiful.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right. That looks amazing. That was exciting.

[Oscar]

That was the delivery people like the unboxing on the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Oscar]

We always get to do unboxing. Life.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is fun. Oh, make sure you look cuz the last Dior package is coming. But it's for you, so make sure you. We missed it yesterday.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's what the note was. Yeah. Sometimes I just don't ring the bell. So

[Trisha Paytas]

ring my bell. What is that?

[Oscar]

Did you hear that song is like for manifesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is that? Someone told me something. It's like.

[Oscar]

Well, they said that if you listen to that song, you get like good vibes, good energy. And if you listen to the food song. I saw it on a TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but we maybe.

[Oscar]

I mean, growing up, we used to hear that song on the radio because

[Trisha Paytas]

it means you're Gonna get money or something.

[Oscar]

I think they just talked about something about in the rhythm of the song and the song itself, like something.

[Michaela]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was thinking of everyone watching. So everyone gets money. You can ring my bell, ring my bell. I like that. I like most little beatboxing in there. Ring my bell, ring my bell. Okay. I know. That's all I know. I love that. I love it so much. Thanks. Thanks, Demi. Thanks, Logan. That was great. That was fun.

[Michaela]

Well, you know, kind of related, I suppose. There was an article that talked about the gift bag for the Oscars this year. Since the Oscars are Sunday now. To preface, this is the unofficial Oscars gift bag. So I think it's probably one of those ones that's like in the gifting suite.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Michaela]

Yeah. So like every time there's like an award show, like the weekend of it, there's usually a room or something near where the award is going to be held that has like. Like all these free. That people can just like come up and they take photos. The celebrities will take photos with that and then you get it for free. Basically.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to be invited to that. How come we don't get invited to gifting sweets that I would go to? That's crazy. I actually don't even. I can't even imagine. Like, you just go and like take a picture next to like a trip to Bora Bora and you're like, there you go. First class tickets. Like, what? That's so insane.

[Michaela]

It is crazy. And last year, just to get you warmed up, last year's was worth six figures and also included liposuction. Isn't that crazy?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. But I'll take it.

[Oscar]

What do you think? A picture next to the machine?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

Or just the surgeon, I suppose before and after.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is. That's wild. But I'll take it.

[Michaela]

So the 2026 gift bag includes a custom prenup.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those are expensive.

[Michaela]

A trip to Sri Lanka. And that is considered the Hermes of America, which is very Moses specific.

[Trisha Paytas]

You come out of retirement and try the Hermes of it. Would you ever just try a little? Or you think it's a gateway back to the. To the drug? I don't know what it is. The leash.

[Oscar]

No. I could, but I think when you don't do it for a long time and then you do it, it hits you so hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

They can't see the situation. Like, definitely not in a place like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would you do it for free? If you're in the gifting suite, are you grabbing it?

[Oscar]

I'll take it, I'll keep it.

[Michaela]

You'll take the like.

[Oscar]

I have some things stashed away, but I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where is that stash?

[Oscar]

But I'm not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always find out things about you through the podcast. He's like, I have things. The gloves. The gloves. The things.

[Oscar]

The gloves are the gateway.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want the Hermes. I don't even smoke. But that. That sounds fun.

[Michaela]

So there's different categories. There's one category that's travel and luxury experiences. And the options are a stay at a $9 million private villa in Costa Rica.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Michaela]

And it includes a concierge chef and a driver. A villa in the Arctic and Lapland with a northern lights viewing experience and a private chef.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sign me up. I want to go to the Arctic so bad.

[Michaela]

A seven day wellness retreat in Southern California. It's kind of boring in comparison to everything else.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, because we live here.

[Michaela]

That's true. But the last one is a 10 day wellness reset in Sri Lanka and a Michelin recognized resort. 10 days. That sounds like a better wellness retreat.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'd rather go there.

[Michaela]

Yeah. Sri Lanka.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Sign me up for that too.

[Michaela]

They a sculpt and lift. This is now. Sorry. This is the beauty, skincare and wellness section.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Michaela]

You have a sculpt and lift facial experience, glow recipe, the watermelon toner. You know that you can go Sephora.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not quite up the bar with the

[Michaela]

other ones, but super Goop spf.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nobody wants it. Nobody wants goop. Nobody wants goop.

[Michaela]

And $400 credit towards dissoir Spa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hate all that. Where's the free GLP1? Where's that Zeppertide for life?

[Michaela]

Okay, now we're getting to serve services art lipo. So you get body sculpting, liposuction experience with Dr. Thomas Sue. I guess you have to take the photo with him, I'm assuming.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Michaela]

Beverly Hills Dental arts, a smile makeover consultation and teeth whitening. Oh, just the teeth whitening and I guess the consultation.

[Trisha Paytas]

What about those veneers? That's where it is.

[Michaela]

Honestly. Might as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's what we need. What? Those are lacking a little bit in my opinion.

[Michaela]

25000 facial rejuvenation procedure from a doctor in New York.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll take that.

[Michaela]

And a custom pre up agreement created by celebrity divorce attorney James Sexton. That is kind of fierce and I guess. Yeah, those are the people that probably want the top notch prenup.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I remember looking at prenups because I'm like, you need a prenup. So I'm, like, looking, and then I have, like, no money in my bank account. And the lawyer was like, $50,000, like, just a retainer just to hold for now. And it might be more than that. And I was like. I was like, lady, I'm a million dollars in debt. And she's like, well, I don't know if you need a prenup. And I was like, oh, you got some assets.

[Michaela]

I know Moses has been eyeing that Chanel birdcage purse. Come on.

[Oscar]

He's like, and now it's all mine.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true.

[Oscar]

I have my little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now we're all together.

[Michaela]

You know, he was scheming for that Chanel birdcage purse. He's like, that's what I'm in it for.

[Trisha Paytas]

People really do really are like that, though, huh? I mean, that was that person too, where it's like, I need this prenup. But also. And they're like, how much is in your current bank account? I was like, actually, nothing. Literally negative. Literally.

[Michaela]

So with other accounts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's exactly. And it was, like, so triggering. And I was like, oh, all right. And she charged me $10,000 just for the call. And that's not a joke. I had to, like, pay the 10,000. And then I went broke.

[Michaela]

I was like, I guess if you cosplay as Kim, you could be my lawyer.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love to be. Yeah, yeah. The all spare version. I could be. I don't know how people drop me. Like, actually don't. That's my advice. Like, just actually don't. No. If you have stuff. Yes.

[Michaela]

They also have food, drinks, and snacks at the gifting suite. Maybe this will get you. They got posh pretzels.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, chocolate.

[Michaela]

Chocolate pretzels topped with edible gold.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I like that.

[Michaela]

Luxury tea tasting.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should go pan for gold. Do you know you can do that up in Santa Clarita?

[Oscar]

I love bending for gold.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we already did it.

[Oscar]

No, but I see what I watch. Like, I'll watch videos of people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know that. While we're so aligned. See, we are aligned. Should we do that for a patreon? It's up in Santa Clarita.

[Oscar]

No way. I would do it. Okay.

[Michaela]

Is it pyri or, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Go in those mountains and get the cool gold.

[Oscar]

You can literally buy sack like a bag of sand at Home Depot and pan it for gold and find, like, little flakes.

[Michaela]

W. Okay, that's fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let's go do it. I was like, because, you know, st pack Shane, like, lucky I Was literally like, oh, how can we do stuff for gold?

[Michaela]

And I saw you can pan for gold work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyways, back to the gold. Put on our pretzels. We can make our own chocolate pretzels.

[Michaela]

We pay for it and then make our own pretzels.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that'd be fun. Oh, okay. Patreon. That and the demi. Write it down. Add to the list.

[Michaela]

Your cookbook is. Hey, go pan for gold.

[Oscar]

Well, you have to source. Your ingredients have to be organic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, isn't it like, where's that one? Serendipity in New York has a thousand dollar sundae and it's literally just like gold flakes on top of a sundae. Yeah.

[Michaela]

I was like, that reminds me, where is Nara Smith? Like you just saying go source on ingredients. I was like, wait, I haven't heard of narrative in a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's renovating her house. She was unexpected renovations. But she's out there. She's. She's making. What did she make? She made something crazy from scratch. She's been. She's still been making.

[Michaela]

Okay. I hadn't heard from her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. It's not like you used to see them all the time, like unboxing their takeout Thai food and work.

[Michaela]

Okay, as long as some renovation is

[Oscar]

big news, you know, that is big. Think about.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I care about. Does Lucky still work or he retired?

[Michaela]

He still models. Yeah, I still see campaigns, I guess. Whoever books them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honey, I haven't seen them.

[Michaela]

I just saw a campaign with him recently. I don't forget what it was. It was menswear something. And the photos were black and white something. I'm not buying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I assume he's still good looking, but he's older, huh? Aged a little.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they edged out a certain point. Male models.

[Oscar]

No, but male models, you'll see them. Yeah, they live longer. Careers, models.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's hard. It's hard when you're in that in between stage, though, where you're not a young boy, but you're also not that distinguished father yet for the Sears catalog, you know?

[Michaela]

Yeah, yeah, I suppose so.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think about that often. I'm like, I wonder what they're gonna do.

[Michaela]

But also the gag is once you become like a name with like enough of a following or whatever, then you.

[Oscar]

Influencer.

[Michaela]

Yeah, you're more of like the influencer so that they still book you for the influence, you know? So I think he'll still.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, for a while.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's my content. I never see his content. I just see him in nars.

[Michaela]

I think for Instagram and stuff. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to be the model for diapers because I, like, love diapers. When I was like postpartum, I like lived in them. And it's so great because, like, you bleed for like six weeks after your baby and you just let that flow. You don't have to have tampons, pads. You just let it flow and the diapers absorb it.

[Michaela]

That's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

And babies too. Babies. It just absorbs. You don't have to worry about anything. Honestly, I want to wear them as an adult, so I really want to do an adult diaper. I know. Depends was like the gag of it all, but. But kind of want to try them work.

[Michaela]

Maybe you can make your own line for like adults, babies, also pets. I had to put my dog in a diaper. Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

People like that. Or they don't. Doesn't matter if you diaper.

[Michaela]

Well, yeah, she was on her period, so she was. She became a woman.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

Cuz we were waiting like for her to turn a year before we spayed her. Cuz they said it would be better for her development.

[Trisha Paytas]

They get a period after a year. They're one years old.

[Michaela]

She got it like at eight months or. No, no. Yeah, actually eight months. Yeah. I remember because they.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Michaela]

My mom was very. Because it was like right before I went on vacation, like literally the day before I went. And I was like, I was like petting her and then I saw blood on the floor and I'm like a panicker. So I'm like, what happened? Like, did she cut herself? And I was like, no, she has nothing. And then it clicked. I was like, she's a woman. And then I cried.

[Trisha Paytas]

After eight months, the dog's a woman. Jeez. Oh, cried happy tears. Are we like. Oh, no.

[Michaela]

I was emotional. I literally. It was like my child, like they kind of became a woman. Like I wasn't. I wasn't ready for it emotionally because I. I read that it comes like later for golden retrievers, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that seems early. Okay.

[Michaela]

Yeah, she's just.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you get rid of it? The dog? Yeah, get rid of the dog.

[Michaela]

Yeah, the period, you just. They just got to go through it and it lasts like two weeks. So she was bleeding for like two weeks.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then you said you get it fixed. What does that mean?

[Michaela]

Oh, yeah, you get her. She got spayed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was that. Is that controversial?

[Michaela]

No, you're supposed to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay, okay. What do they say? What does it entail?

[Oscar]

It doesn't go through the cycle Anymore.

[Michaela]

Yeah, I want that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm asking. I need to know what they do. Can you spade a human?

[Michaela]

I don't know what it includes.

[Oscar]

I mean, if you take the whole uterus.

[Michaela]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But doing something that doesn't involve that. Because you didn't take her uterus out, did you?

[Michaela]

I don't know if they. They used to do that when I was younger, I think now I think it's less, like, intense for. Figure that nails, they just. They just snip the balls. I know that, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which that's. I only have girl dogs because animal testes really gross me out. Like, when I see a dog that's, like, an adult with, like, big balls swinging, I'm like, it makes me a little sick.

[Trisha Paytas]

It gives me a little notch, too.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

About that.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So love that, though. I want to get rid of my period. They really need to figure out something. When I get my tubes out. We thought. I thought. Oh, I thought. I was like, maybe. Maybe my period's gonna stop. I was like, no. And I was like, what the hell? Like, what does that mean? I can't get pregnant. I can still have a period.

[Michaela]

Yeah. I guess the menopause, honey, that's the way you got to look forward to.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Well, that's what he said. I was like, can you just take the uterus out? And he's like, well, then you go into menopause. And I was like, well, that's probably fine. He's like, but then, you know, I have a no sex drive, and you get dry and sex hurts, and it's awful. And you're like, I know, I know. So I was like, well, maybe I'm a little too young for that. So I was like, well, he's like, you could, like, hurt. You'll be, like, dry, and you just can't have sex. And I'm like, oh, I know. The period. It is.

[Michaela]

It's hard for women. My God.

[Trisha Paytas]

It really kind of is.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Periods are actually the worst. I haven't had one in, like, three years. And I'm like, I hate it so much. It is terrible. But I would have loved to get a spade. Spaded. What did you get? Spade. What? What did you call it?

[Michaela]

You get neutered or for boy, what's a girl? Spade.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, I'm going to get spade.

[Michaela]

Yeah, I guess. You ever use a diva cup? I like the name, the diva cup.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is a diva? I heard of it, but what's up?

[Michaela]

Please message me and, like, let me Know how it works.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't know.

[Michaela]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Michaela]

I know how it works. Like you. You bleed into the cup instead.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't understand like the cup.

[Oscar]

Empty it.

[Michaela]

Yeah. You still got to empty it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But how long does it last? Cuz I had one kind of. Of I tried one for a sponsor. I think it was called Flex and I think it held your blood in there for like 12 hours.

[Michaela]

That's kind of the tea on the Diva Cups, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Michaela]

I love the name. I think Diva cup is like the fear. I'm trying to say someone took it already because like if I were to come out with a product, I would call it Diva Cup.

[Trisha Paytas]

Diva cup is great. I do like Diva Cup.

[Michaela]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't like the idea of holding blood up in there for 12 hours. Just let it flow naturally into a diaper. Which is why I'm gonna be the face of diapers.

[Michaela]

Because what's your diaper line gonna be called? Oh, you can't really put Trish into a diaper. That's why. That's why I stuck this. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I'll think of a fun name. Will come out even. There's a pre existing Diva. Diva diaper is good even for postpartum. They made like a diaper with like a little lace on it. They had like a black lace.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. And then you just throw them out after like each reuse. Out, done.

[Michaela]

It's kind of like giving the skims approach to diapers. Kim, Kim, Kim. Noel, do not even think about it, honey, because I'm close to you right now.

[Oscar]

They're working on it right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Okay, first of all, I'm okay with it if I can be the face of it. I want to model it. Skims diapers.

[Oscar]

You need to trademark your diapers now.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so brilliant. That is so.

[Michaela]

I know she's going to be cooking that up with a quick turnaround on the skim.

[Trisha Paytas]

It just helps so many people. Obviously people who can't control their bladder. Women of a certain age, postpartum women. Also women who are just lazy. We do enough. Why do we have to go to the bathroom on top of that? I just want to pee it out. It's great. It absorbs and change it. Yeah. Maybe once a day. Twice a day.

[Michaela]

But like on New Year's, if you're in Times Square. Yeah, yeah. Come on. Concerts, like Coachella, like one piece.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, like President. Did he pee himself Lately I'm confused of this reference, you know? Okay, does anyone know what Moses is talking about? I swear, everyone's like, oh, Trish is always so mad at Moses. Yeah. Because. What do you mean? This is a different person. All of a sud. Like, who's here? Who's this person?

[Oscar]

I thought it was common knowledge.

[Michaela]

And then afterwards, I didn't know that was happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't either. I don't know if this is common knowledge, but. Okay, what else is in that for the Oscars? How do we get this? I want this swag bag.

[Michaela]

I know. I used to live for, like, the photos. I don't know if people still do those photo ops anymore. Like, at least not like they used to be on Getty Images all the time. But, you know, I remember the cast of Glee. Like, a Chris Colfer at the Gift was always fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where'd Chris. Oh, he's making books. That's what he's doing.

[Michaela]

Yeah. And he's, like, really fit. He's, like, really muscular.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who else got really muscular?

[Michaela]

Gray, who's that? He's a singer. He's Olivia friends with Olivia Rodrigo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jake Shane.

[Michaela]

Yes. He has been at that Aloe Gym. I mean, he has Glenn Powell in his pocket. Or he's in Glenn Powell pocket.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I just don't understand love Jake Shane. This is no Jake Shane. Hate. But like, is he a plant? Because he's like, next to Rob getting the Birkin from Traders and you're just like.

[Michaela]

But he's everywhere all at once.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I don't understand. I really don't understand, like, love and funny. Of course. So popular. But, like. But how are you playing?

[Oscar]

Some people are just the. In the. So their social spheres. Where did he start? Like, his best friend Nicole? I mean, okay, like, that's. If that's your best friend, that's the world you're living in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but now you're everybody's best friend because you have one famous friend. You're best friends with a famous person. Doesn't mean you're every A listers.

[Oscar]

No, but since then, in the last. Since we started the podcast, he's been doing kind of the same. He's been. Become a media person.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like, he's. It's not anymore, but a lot of

[Trisha Paytas]

people have and they just don't. They're just not everywhere. Everywhere.

[Oscar]

But him. He seems to be super nice. Good work ethics. Like, he has what it takes to actually carry it through.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But physically he's one person. I'm talking, like, cloning. Okay. Selena Gomez is a clone A clone. Jim Carrey's a clone. But there's no. Jake Shane is a clone.

[Oscar]

And you don't know that. The President wears diapers and you know that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who wears diapers Anyway?

[Oscar]

So, anyway, so maybe. Maybe he was cloned. Maybe. Maybe he is AI. Maybe he's not even really there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love him, but he is ever. He's gonna be at the Vanity Fair. He's also in the Vanity Fair after party for the Oscars on the red carpet.

[Michaela]

And, like, makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it. But, like, how. How are you doing all of this physically? You're literally one person. He posted a video photo the other day. He's like, remember when I was ugly? I was like, like, oh, and it's him on the Getty image. Like a Getty image of him.

[Oscar]

Jake Shane.

[Michaela]

Don't say that about yourself.

[Trisha Paytas]

He did glow up, though. He did. He does look different.

[Michaela]

Let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does look different. Look cutie before, but it was a cutie. Quirky. Could play like Seymour, a little shuffle horse. This is like giving. Now he's giving. Buff daddy housemaid, too, you know, he looked good. He looked cute, but very different.

[Michaela]

God, J. Shane is too white of a name because I look it up on Getty and so many different white people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? That's so funny. Yeah. That's why we need. We do need new names with the generation Alphas and Betas out there.

[Oscar]

But when you're young, no kids, famous, you can book your schedule as much as you want. So some people are just, like, on the go. They can do three things in one day, constantly, 24 hours in a day. Yeah, but some people love that. They just want to be constantly busy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he's working out aloe and he's getting a six pack.

[Michaela]

Aloe is where it's at, though, because that's where he started working on with Glenn Powell and Tate McCray. And then it all kind of escalated from there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been working out now, and I still don't get the invite, but I've been trying. I've been squeezing in. Largest, I think he was ever.

[Michaela]

I mean, yeah, I guess, you know, the money will make you, like, a little. A little more attractive, for sure. But I don't think he was ugly. Saying like, remember when I was ugly is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He captured it, not me. I didn't say it.

[Michaela]

But you're just a messenger, honey.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am just the messenger. I like him. I just. I'm always puzzled. Puzzled but funny. You know, he's funny. He's not like Bobby Altoffer. Where it's like, I don't get it. Jake Shane, he's obviously funny and talented.

[Michaela]

Yeah. And he's sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never hear he's very sweet.

[Michaela]

Bad news about Jake?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he's nice. Always excited for life. I've seen him twice and he's always excited. Wicked and Ben Plat, the most random places. What do you mean? You're at Wicked and B? I guess that makes sense. Probably a lot of crossover there. Kind of everywhere, that's for sure.

[Michaela]

He definitely. He. He got a stylist for sure. Cuz his fashion choices did puzzle me a few years ago. I will say that he always dressed. He dressed just like how I would dress. As someone with, you know, know, no access to nice things. Like, he dressed just like a regular person. But now he has things that actually, like, fit him and like, are tailored to him and that goes a long way.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. That's true.

[Michaela]

Getting things tailored to you when you're like a petite person will really have you look in here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. We should do that for a Patreon. Hiring a stylist.

[Michaela]

Great idea. I'm so curious, but like, we probably should be wearing dressing for ourselves.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I would love actually. I know. I always think about that. I'm like, maybe I should get. Oh, we know Jared. Maybe he would do it.

[Michaela]

You're so right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Just for. I mean, we'll pay him, but like, obviously, like maybe do like three looks. What should be a podcast look, a casual look, and like a going out event look when.

[Michaela]

When we host the Vanity Fair.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah. We have no event, but maybe once we do, we can hire him to dress us for it. Maybe. Yeah.

[Michaela]

Let's get into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love him. I know, I know. I like the idea of a stylist. I do get a little, A little shy to like pull the trigger on it, but. Can you use that phrase anymore? Pull the trigger. That seems a little.

[Michaela]

I think you can pro gun or something.

[Oscar]

A lot of things have triggers.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have triggers. There's so many triggers. What else has triggers?

[Oscar]

Warnings.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that is a warning. A trigger warning.

[Oscar]

It's not warning for gun. Trigger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my gosh. Anyways.

[Michaela]

And there's more. Timothy Chalamet ballet and Oprah backlash.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, all together. I changed my mind on this, actually.

[Michaela]

Oh, I think it's a joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's fine. Honestly. People were right. I saw a tick tock. That's like, this is why, like, nothing's funny anymore because people can't joke. And like, I don't think it was necessarily joking, but, like, who cares? It's an actor. Like, why do we care so much what he says about ballet? If it was, like, a professional ballet person, I'd be like, okay, yeah, you know, but it. It's him.

[Michaela]

It's like, I think because he's an artist and an artist who takes himself seriously, that, like, to be dismissive about another art is what, Offended. But that's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why we're taking this guy seriously. Like, he takes himself seriously, and it's like, you're Willy Wonka. You know what I mean? It's like, it's not. We're not. We're not caring what you think. You know what I mean? So that's. That's kind of like, oh, who cares? Like, it's whatever. I don't know. I got so mad about it because I was like, you know, who cares? He doesn't know. He doesn't have taste besides Kylie. But of course someone was saying that. Someone. Oh, I saw this. It's so funny how no one says, like, the reverse when a guy is, like, not, like a clout chaser, but, like, when he, like, levels up with, like, a girlfriend. Like, no one says anything about, like, oh, you know what I'm saying? Like, if it's like, a female with, like, a male that's, like, making more money in a billionaire, everyone's like, oh, like Alex girl, for instance, when she was like, you know, now with Tom Brady, and, oh, he. She's leveling up or something. No one ever said that about, like, Timothy with Kylie. Like, obviously, like, that's like, the prize. And he, like, I don't even know who. If he was with anyone before. But, like, no one talks about him, like, leveling up. Everyone just thinks of them as equals and they're just. Does not. Like, she's definitely, like, the billionaire goddess.

[Michaela]

People were mad at Timmy. They thought he was lowering him to be with the reality club Chalamet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's the only one. Like, who else was thinking that? You know what I mean? Like, everyone know. He's like, no, he's like.

[Michaela]

He's surprised. A lot of people really take him seriously, like, as an artist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I would like to meet one person. Like, who?

[Michaela]

They're out there. Let me tell you. They're out there for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

The one where he's making out with Army Hammer, I just saw that the other day. I don't know if this is giving artiste. I feel like, oh, you kiss a guy in a Film. And you're like, wow, so brave. You know, it's like, who's the hunchback? The mountain. What's. You know what I'm talking about? The hunchback Mountain. What is that one? Yes. With the two straight guys. And then everyone's like, praise them so much. And it's like, yeah, it's a good movie and there's a good message by it. But it's also, it's, you know, like anyone, you know, other people could have played that role, you know, like, you know, and it's like we applaud them. Why? Because, oh, you're brave for being like gay when you're not. I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, it was giving that. When I was watching Call me by. Call me by your name. Yeah, I just saw the clip. I didn't watch the whole movie, but I was like, but you know, it's not giving. Why do I keep calling Hunchback? Brokeback is giving more motion. That one was giving. I don't know what I'm watching. They're just like out of mountain kissing. And I was like, oh, okay, not, not the, not the broke back the

[Michaela]

call me by your name. Got it, Got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Do you think too? And we like him. He's a gag for sure. But do you think he's like.

[Oscar]

What I see is that, you know, people reduce the Kardashian to be a reality TV sensation. And when you come from the movie world, they're like, we're actors. And they look at tv, reality TV as trash, but they forget that this is a billionaire businesswoman that is so much more than the reality tv. And they're actually really smart people.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying he leveled up, but everyone's saying he.

[Oscar]

Right. So I'm saying like it's an automatically knee jerk reaction when you hear Kardashian to put them down and to think of it as trash when it's reality the opposite. They are an empire and they're smart and they're billionaires.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like the most influential people in the whole world.

[Oscar]

And they built it on top of something like reality tv. So I have to be super smart to do something to go from trashy to.

[Trisha Paytas]

And building something out of nothing. And just like it is like, but

[Oscar]

it is if you're in the art world, which is very snobby towards things like, like reality tv to them, that's trash. So that. That's where it comes From.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't even think it's the art world. I think it's just like people online. It's like, no offense to the club shop. I keep saying that because that's the only one I know. But people like a club chow me that are just behind, you know, the keyboards. They're not even in the art world because your, your art world is very distinguished and you know, they love me. They're very much like, oh, she's a.

[Oscar]

She's an artist. Because they met you and they know you. But without that they would not. I feel that way.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like when I first d Moses like why are you doing a KFC and a pink Rolls Royce? And I like, we get it now.

[Michaela]

See performance. Yeah. And I feel like that was similar for.

[Oscar]

So you change their minds. And I think same thing with Kylie. She would change people minds once you sit with her and you talk to her, if you're lucky to sit with, talk to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz or even when you see her in the moment. Did you watch it?

[Michaela]

I saw the clip. Clip of Kylie and Charlie in the moment and damn actor. I may get crucified for this. And you know what? Get that wood right now because I think Kylie's gonna win an Oscar before Timothy Chalamet. That's just my opinion as someone who doesn't really care about, you know, prestige film. Kylie really, she's a natural actress. She really is. She dies on the screen. She does.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was so good and like so subtle. Like I love Kim, I'm a Kim apologist forever. But you know, she gives glam, she gives beat, she gives botox. Right. She's not giving what she level.

[Michaela]

Like she just gives like one, one dimension.

[Trisha Paytas]

But we love like her dimension top peak, you know, we love that dimension. Keep giving it my opinion. Give. Give us nothing and it's everything. Yes, I love right Kim can do no ride. Really do. I was looking at her dad like, God, she's so pretty. Me wanting to get my implants out. And then she had in her skims Nike. She had a huge boob and I now want big boobs again. She is just like icon. But Kylie, she acts out.

[Michaela]

She really did. And she just did an interview that came out today with Vanity Fair and she talked about how she does want to keep acting. She said she wants to do comedy. She's like. She said that she surprised herself with the comedic acting. And you know what? This, she's good.

[Trisha Paytas]

She just has it maybe the next Barbie movie, Brats.

[Michaela]

Oh, that would be good.

[Trisha Paytas]

The real version of Brad. They did a Brad's and it was like, not good.

[Oscar]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, those little girls. But it was bad.

[Michaela]

And dare I say, I think if they get a really good like writer. Like, who's the writer? Like maybe like a. Who's the one that wrote like Crazy Stupid Love. I don't know. They wrote like a whole bunch of like really good rom coms and stuff. If you got some. A really good established prestige comedy writer to write a movie for Kylie Jenner and Ariana Grande Butera, the comic genius would be out of this world. I don't know what that movie is. Throwing Jennifer Lawrence in there just for fun. Maybe throwing Sabrina Carpenter. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But maybe that was just Oscar's weird family list. Family tree, whatever it is.

[Michaela]

All the girls I stan that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm all crazy. But Ariana eats, she acts and so does Kylie. And I am seated for that. I see it for sure. I do see Kylie also in like an Emerald Fennel movie. You know what I mean? Kind of like Wuthering Heights tease, something like that.

[Michaela]

I think she's full of surprises. I think people really do like to her.

[Oscar]

But she can fund and produce the whole movie herself if she wanted to.

[Michaela]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she would be so good. Like, she'd have been good in the character of the one that I loved in the Wuthering Heights.

[Michaela]

Yeah, that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

She would have been so good at her. I mean, I like that actress too, but she would have been good. I love Kylie. Ariana was in the news too. I don't know. Is this fake news or is this old news? I think it's real. The pictures. Did you see the one where Morning. Did you see which one? She invited friends over to watch Drag Race. And this one guy, Franco or whatever, this guy on like social media posted to like, pictures of her.

[Oscar]

He took pictures without her? Yeah, in her apartment.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like her and Ethan Slater watching Drag Grace. I mean, other people are there, but it's just like. And her like, looking. You haven't seen these.

[Oscar]

Someone said that he came with her brother, but that wasn't 100.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know. Because who reported on it? A lot of people report. I saw the drama channels. Sloan. Even one credible. Not that he's not credible, but there's another guy on Tick Tock that I watched. I was saying this is like real. These are real photos.

[Oscar]

No, the photos are real, like, because there's a bunch of them throughout the night.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's always like her, like from afar, looking away.

[Oscar]

And people were like, it took them without her knowing. Like, it's pretty. You can see that she doesn't know. Nobody's aware of him and he's just like posting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he like looking for clap? But then all the comments like, this is weird. Like, delete this. Like, was it recent too? Because like Ethan's in the picture and people have like a speculator that they broke out.

[Oscar]

I don't know when he took the pictures. He decided to release it now, but you don't know when they took it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess if it's Drag Race, it could be current, but I guess Drag Race always happens. Happening.

[Oscar]

Yeah. He said if there's a picture they can analyze which episode it was or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. I would be, I would be pissed. I'd be pissed if someone was like in my house, like taking pictures of me. Like someone I didn't know. I mean, it's like Oscar, so I don't care. But like somebody you don't know.

[Oscar]

Right. So they have to come with somebody you really know. Well, yeah, to get somebody that you really don't know in your house. And that's

[Trisha Paytas]

especially like Ariana Grande. I feel like she's so private and it's like so weird.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And it's doxing because when you see a picture of an apartment, people can know what apartment building it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that's right. It was a high rise reflection.

[Oscar]

There's a lot of things about it that are just not right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I feel like when someone's like so private, it's just like, you just know. But like, don't do that. But. And with all the Arian eaters out there, we're all like, this is. This is some. It's so sad. I'm missing her from award season too. I really feel like she would have brought the looks. I don't know. It makes me me. Thank God we have Tiana Taylor. We never talked about her with her little daughter being her stylist on the red carpet. Did you ever. Did you see that? She was at some award show and her five year old was like her stylist, like putting out her dress. You didn't see. And then they came and interviewed her and she like, I am Ruby. What? You know, I don't know, Ruby Ray or something like that. And then she's like, she was five and she brought her. I was like, that's so cute. That'd be Malibu for sure.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Loved it.

[Michaela]

I see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Did you valid verify?

[Michaela]

Well, I can't verify. I just saw right now, but I don't. That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It was all over my tick tock. I was like, really? Me Private. Yeah. And then people were like, sharing the photos everywhere. I was like, well, now they're just getting everywhere. Everyone's like, this is a huge invasion of privacy.

[Michaela]

Yeah. I'm like, all right, you blasting it. Something I didn't even know was happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I mean, I think it's fine. Talk about out there. But I feel like reposting a picture is crazy. It's like, you know what I mean? Everyone just like, how dare he? And then it's like, no, it's out there and it's scary. I mean, the reason I do bring it up is because, like, stuff. Stop that. Because you know what? I saw a tick tock of someone filming me. I hate to, like, bait this person, but, like, filming me, like, in my car yesterday, when we're with our kids, and it's like, it's just, you know, I get it. If you want to show your friend, be like, look who I saw. Whatever. I've definitely done that with Carrot Top. Okay. On a plane. But, like, I think it's just like, a little weird when you're just like, taking them from far away and posting it for the whole Internet to see. Because I was like, in my car and people were just like, I don't know. I like it. I think it's it. And I think it's definitely ick if you're inside someone's house. So I bring it up for awareness to be like, hey, nobody likes this. And I'm someone who loves my picture as I'm someone who loves attention, but not when it's like, what do you call that? Secretive.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sneaky.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yesterday there's a lot of sneaky people when I was with my kids, and I was like, just don't be. Don't be that person. I don't know. People are so weird because, like, you know, if they come up and I'm by myself. If I'm by myself with two kids, by the way, we'll never stop for a picture because I'm at a park, you know, there's like, weird people everywhere, and people still, like, try and take a video if I say no. And I'm like, that's. Oh, so if it's out there, me saying no, it's because I'm with my kids. And I think that's, like, weird. And I'm not gonna like, take my eyes off him if Mose is not with me or something like that. It's weird.

[Oscar]

So, yeah, the kids, you know, the kids, they run around and in one second you don't pay it. Like in our lives, we pay attention360 to everything that's happening with them. And when somebody else comes into the pictures, I suddenly start taking your attention away from it. That moment, something happens and it could be just them running and stumbling and falling, crawling. It could be anything, Anything. So for us, like, we need to be in that full 360 attention to what they're doing because there's more than one kid.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lately, people have been getting mad and I'm like, I got target too. I was by myself. We'll go to. Because you were like in a different eye. And I had both of them. And I'm like, I don't know psa. I'm gonna keep talking about it because it's just like, again, I never care if I'm with Moses or whatever. If I'm like, you know, there's other people with me, fine. But I think I was like carrying literally Elvis. She was having a tantrum and she's like, like, you know, she's like, whatever. Having her tandem because it's nap time and we're like, oh, it's nap time. She's just really not well. He's like, oh, it's okay, I'll wait. I'm. No, no, no. And he did. And I was like, this baby's like throwing herself, like, off of me. Like, what do you mean? Anyways, same thing with Ariana. If you're in someone's house. Weird. You can. You can take pictures of me in my house. Most people can. If you're at my house.

[Oscar]

Usually I'm like, fine for one videos.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's actually true. I don't let. Wait. What?

[Oscar]

For Patreon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what? Okay. Yes. But I. I'm knowing that's happening. I mean, it's fine if you do anyways.

[Michaela]

That.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. But that is actually. Yeah. I would never have someone in my house that I wouldn't.

[Oscar]

I would never say it can happen without you. Let's say in this case it was her brother. Say your sister is dating someone. She's bringing him over with her. You know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? But I don't think I'd let him in my house after. Unless. Yeah, I think it's remarried. I don't know if I would like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think I would like, I don't let people in my house that I wouldn't want to let them take pictures of me because, like, it's like, I would know. Well, first of all, I'm like social media person. I don't care if they post it, but I don't think I would let people in my house, house that I would care if they took a picture of me. Wouldn't care. Does that make sense? Like, Oscar, Darren, you can take pictures of me if you wanted. Nobody does but take pictures of me all day long, you know, but it's like, I guess also growing up as influencers, it's different. Like growing up in like the Shane Drew world, you're just all, everyone's always videoing you, always taking pictures.

[Michaela]

It's like, let me really gag everyone. Me showing that I'm with you where I'm with you like 10 hours a week.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should do that though. Just take a picture of me.

[Michaela]

Just like that. So unexpected, so gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think like influencers, you just expect people to be taking pictures of you when you're together like this.

[Michaela]

With celebrities though, like, yes. Different with this too. It's like not even worth it at all because like now you can never be friends with Ariana Grande. Like, you're literally. Or anybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

That too.

[Michaela]

Yeah. You're always going to be like the creepy guy who's taking sneaky pics. Like, if that was me, I would be like, oh, I'm really going to like be on my A game. I'm going to be having like, funny quips. I'm going to be like, yeah, really, like serving. So she's like, damn, I need this guy around me.

[Trisha Paytas]

So much better that way. Yeah, it's so high interest.

[Michaela]

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[Trisha Paytas]

So much better to be like the cool person without the photographic proof. Okay. Like, you don't need it. But I guess when you're young, I guess you think you do look that young.

[Michaela]

No offense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I haven't seen it. Was he chopped? Is he on?

[Michaela]

I'm not going to label that, but you did look like an older. Oh, maybe late 20s, early 30s.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Michaela]

I mean, Frankie. If it's Frankie's friend, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Frankie, allegedly. We don't know what the.

[Michaela]

We don't know what the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lord, we love Frankie. I don't know if he'd be bringing true. A chopped person around, but have you heard the new slang, get cracked? We got. I got cracked. Have you heard that one? That's crazy. Right? Like mid crack, I saw someone's like, oh, they were on a cruise, like, mid crack. He went to go watch some birds. Crack is now sex crack. It's like I got cracked last night.

[Oscar]

Sets for sex.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You didn't know either?

[Oscar]

No. I thought.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. Did you know?

[Michaela]

No, I use it differently.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you use it?

[Michaela]

Well, in Fortnite, I was like, oh, I just got cracked. Like if my shields got cracked, cracked or.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, no, that's not it.

[Michaela]

No, I. Well, it is in that context, in the game.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, in the new Gen Z world,

[Michaela]

I had to go get my back blown out. Like, let's see, Millennial.

[Trisha Paytas]

Millennial is very bad.

[Michaela]

No, the. Everyone was saying, got my back out. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe like five years ago.

[Oscar]

I think if you had a year ago, no sex with somebody that's chopped, you get cracked.

[Michaela]

Right? Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like getting cracked. I like getting cracked. Tana's back hurt yesterday and she. I gotta go get cracked. And I was like, what? I was like, sex. It's like, no, it just isn't so much pain. I was like, oh, period. Getting cracked is crazy. These terms. The terms are crazy, though. When you do get older, you do just feel old. When you hear these terms, you're just like, what do you mean? I guess it's better than me. Like, getting. I guess cracked is kind of cute.

[Michaela]

God damn. Please.

[Oscar]

I think it's people that didn't live through the crack epidemic. So they're like, oh, for them, it's like, you know, it's like got cracked right now. It's funny to talk about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, Winnie Houston said, crack is whack. Remember that Bobby show? You never watch the show. She's like, crack is whack.

[Oscar]

Oh, I remember that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. From the same soup. Double Cat would always use that clip. Crack is whack, period. Don't do it. Don't smoke it.

[Michaela]

Well, now, okay. Me trying to figure out which transition. I had a transition from the Ariana photos. Oh, and then I will get back to Timothy at some point, I guess. From the photos to Chapel Roan photo experience at Paris Fashion Week.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was talking to Mose about this too.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No feedback to me on this, though.

[Oscar]

I do have a lot of feedback about that.

[Michaela]

He was saving it, apparently, because he

[Trisha Paytas]

was quiet when I said it yesterday. I was like, oh, okay. Nothing. Crickets.

[Oscar]

Well, I think when you told me I haven't seen the video yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Got it.

[Michaela]

Okay. Well, yeah, because she is in Paris for Paris Fashion Week, and she flipped the script on some paparazzi and autograph seekers who are following her around Paris, and she started filming them. Them and putting them on blast, saying, kindly leave me alone and stop following me and harassing me. And she wanted to show them what it was like. And it was kind of controversial, I guess. Me. It's kind of what she does. Like, you know, she kind of stands out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, this is Chapel Rome.

[Michaela]

What do you mean? What else was she gonna do?

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't film her. Like, you know, like, yeah, just, you know.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even me. Even me on a red carpet, getting full permission from her publicist to interview her. I'm still like, is this okay as you? Because girl has her boundaries. And it's like, maybe she said okay 10 minutes ago, but she doesn't want to do it now. So I'm like, if this is okay.

[Michaela]

And I will say I do think it is. Like, I mean, it's also hard in la, but there's something over there in Paris too, because Dua Lipa also had, like, a viral experience like this in Paris a couple weeks ago where she was, like, getting dinner with her boyfriend, and it was like, the same, like, fan or. I don't even think they were, like, real fans, but the. They're, like, following her, stalking her to get stuff signed so they could sell it. And then she's like, please. Like, you've been following me all day. Like, just stop. Like, I don't. I'm not going to sign anything else. And then they're, like, guilting her and be like, what? But we're such big fans. And, like, they're giving her such a hard time about it. And they're like, just sign it and we'll leave. And she's like, no. And her boyfriend's also like, just leave us alone. Go. Her security is there. And then the paparazzi are also, like, they're on top of it. And it's like, night. So the flashing. They don't. They can't even see where they're going, she almost, like, runs into a pole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Michaela]

So it reminded me of that, like, Dua just kind of went through a similar thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, not to be so morbid, but, like, Princess Diana, Europe, you know, and that's the same thing. They were just, like, hounding her and chasing her, and it's just like. It is scary. Like, you pushed on the street, hit by a car, like, all this, like, they just. They don't care. And they, like, do whatever I do. Yeah. Maybe European paparazzi are more extreme. And, yeah, those people who do it happens to me very rarely. But when it does, like, on tour, like, people have, like, 50 photos.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, I have warned my term managers. Amazing. Because I was like, security. That was a security. He's just like, no more. Because they'll, like, literally, like, will follow you into your van until you, like, sign every single one. And I was like, I can't imagine on their level, like, Paris Fashion Weekend, like, a list. It's like, yeah, that would be hella annoying.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would definitely be one good thing. I'm not that famous. I would definitely be one pushing the paparazzi. I'd be kicking. I would be, like, early 2000s, low hand, for sure. That's why she moved to Dubai. She said it's illegal for paparazzi over there. They can't take a photo of anything. You can't take a photo of anyone else over there.

[Michaela]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess, like, one good thing about you or maybe multiple things, but one good thing.

[Michaela]

It's. Yeah, that's why when Chapel was doing it, I was like, honestly go off, because I. I think people. People who were like, oh, this is annoying. I think. And this is also, yes, of course I'm biased because I do love her. But even that aside, like, I don't know if people get the scope of, like, they literally. It's like, all day, they're following her running around with, like, a picture and markers, you know, and it's like, it's one thing where if it's, like, at an event, like, if it's when they're going to the Tonight show or they have, like, a premiere or something, you kind of expect it. And usually everyone, even though they know it's going to get sold, they still will sign.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

But when you're just, like, on the street trying to get from, like, point A to point B.

[Oscar]

No, it's not a fan that's coming to you and having a real conversation with you about, oh, you affected me in this way. I love. This is like solicitors. So, like, when a solicitor comes to your house. House. And say, okay, no, thank you. And they keep coming and keep coming because they're not asking you. They're not fans. They want money. They're like, sign this check. You know? Yeah, they want money. And first of all, if he. If she turned the camera on me, I'll be honored. I'd be like, hey, you know, pose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you the paparazzi in this case?

[Oscar]

I would not be upset if Chapel started filming me. I was like, but are you hounding her?

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you just you?

[Oscar]

I'm just saying. I don't know who's upset. Like I said. Still understand who's upset about Chapel doing this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just people on the Internet. Like, people that weren't even there.

[Oscar]

But the thing is, like, you know, if you believe in the freedom of the people on the street filming you, she has the same freedom to do what she wants to do on the street. And I loved it. I loved seeing her just do something different again. Unexpected. When a celebrity does something that unexpected, out of the box, they're just being an actual human being. Yeah, I like it. I appreciate it.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is like, I'm with it because I'm just the very tiny scale that I have been on. This is like. With those, like, things, it is so annoying. And you're just trying to move. You're just trying to move along. Even when I've been pregnant, all stuff like that. And you're just trying to move along, and it's like, they won't let you. I think that's, like, crazy. Just if you say no, no means no. Like, just keep it moving. I don't know. The harassing is crazy. Those picture people are nuts. You should have, like, one or two and that's it. When you have 50. No, I'd be. I'd be more diabolical than her. I love her. I love that she is like that. People are always like, oh, we made the wrong people famous. It's like, no, she's fine. Her fans are fine. We love lover. You guys are not fans, so who cares what you have to say?

[Michaela]

Well, Boy George also chimed in on this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love him.

[Michaela]

And, okay, well, he said, oh, he had some advice. No, I think that's why it's, like, just a different perspective. So he was, like, a little bit more critical. He said. He tweeted in reacting to the video, and he said, I've been doing this fame thing for a while, and you learn slowly and painfully that you don't get a free pass once you turn yourself into a bird of parents paradise. I watched Chapel filming the paps in Paris and I laughed because I have kicked off at them many times. The trick is to own your fame. Yes, it's annoying at times, but so is being ignored and told you're a. Has been. Life is always. Life is always now. And I think Chapel looks great, but cheer up, girl, the world is at your feet. Stop kicking it. It takes so much more time to say no to a picture or a signature. Boundaries are boring. Break them with the magic of kindness. And last year, he also commented on her approach to fame with, like, the red carpet photographers. And he said, when the Libby Rodrigo premiere, where she went up to that one photographer and said, no, you were there witnessing her story being made and cackling and loving every minute of it. I love that I'm a part of history because, like, everyone's video of filming Chapel yell at that one photographer. There's me cackling and saying, I just love her. Because I couldn't help. I was fierce. Fierce is fierce. Fierce is fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fierce is fierce.

[Michaela]

Last year, he. Or that year, he said, I was watching this thing the other day with Chapel Roan saying she won't have photos with fans. I went through periods like that. But now I never, ever say no to a photograph unless I am on the toilet. So he has a very different perspective.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, also, it's not the 80s, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, less people are asking for that photo, so it's not as invasive. You know, I love him and respect him so much, but I think it's very different for multiple reasons. I mean, he, you know, he's just not the famous he was.

[Michaela]

Also now, back then, it was less people had a camera in their hand right now, literally every single person with a phone. And no matter what, like, yeah, people gave Chapel such a hard time about, like, talking to photographers and stuff, having them, like, not yell at her. But Clockett, the photographers are really quiet when she's around ours. They're so quiet now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wish I had behind the scenes of ours. It was so quiet, so calm. It was great because it was so chaotic. And then Chapel came, and it was just her. It was just her on the carpet. There's like three photographers and me. I'm like, everything was quiet. Is this okay? Literally, because everyone's like, oh, she wasn't, like, so excited to see you. And I go. And I was just like. Because she's just a chill. She's just chill. I'm here to just serve looks and that's it. And I was like, love that so much.

[Michaela]

Yeah. Because she did.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's fine.

[Michaela]

The Rock and Roll hall of Fame. She did that red carpet in and in the video before she came on. I think this got posted somewhere, but the publicist for the event came out and was like, told the photographers, okay, Chapel roan just arrived. Do not yell at her or she will leave. And they were kawaii as a mouse, honey. They were so quiet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boundaries. Because, like, maybe you love fame Boy George, maybe Kim Kardashian loves the paparazzi, but it's like, not everyone has loved that part of fame. They want to make music and they want to do that for a living and perform for large crowds. Okay. They don't. The paparazzi isn't part of the deal. Your fans are part of the deal, but not the paparazzi. It's like, so. And her fans know. I feel like fans know. That's when we know not to bring it back to me, but that's when we know they're not real fans. Because when someone's. One guy's like, I'm your biggest fan. I was like, you're my biggest fan. You. And now I don't love when, like, I'm holding my kids that people come up for pictures and he's the one that waited. You know what I mean? And it's like, no, you're not. You know, So I think the Chapel fans, they know. They know to not harass her. And, you know, if you can't help yourself and you need a picture, knowing that she doesn't allow me, I guess, go for it. But like, for me personally, knowing Chapel just doesn't love that. Even as an interviewer, I'm still very much like, I got permission to interview her. It's still very much like, is this okay? Because it's just like some people have, like, really hardcore boundaries. You have no idea why they are there, but it doesn't matter. And then there's some people. Yeah. That don't care. You know, just. You do whatever. But I don't know people. I feel her on this one. And I love Chapel. And the people who don't get it, it's like, like, yeah, it's not for you. For you to get.

[Michaela]

And she is shaking the table and I don't know, changing the status quo a bit. But it is. It is working. It has that trickle down effect. And at the Grammys too, when Sabrina Carpenter was doing photos, she's like, hey, everybody. And she was like posing. She's like, wow, you guys are really quiet this year. And then her publicist was like, chapel. She's like, damn, she really whipped them in the shape.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

I was like, even Sabrina was to going, guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, what we love gets too rowdy out there. If there's one person that's going to stand up, it's going to be Chapel. Rome.

[Michaela]

So what did she do?

[Trisha Paytas]

What did she do with her finger to the God.

[Oscar]

What?

[Michaela]

Oh, yeah. She's like, oh, yeah. She was posting. She went, you. And then she walked up. You were so mean to me at the Grammys party last year. No, it was you. I didn't forget. And then she went back. I will pose not for you. And I was like, I love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love her. Like, I love her.

[Michaela]

I'm sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's intimidating, but I love it.

[Michaela]

I'm like, oh, it is so fierce. She gives me drag. Like, that's how a drag queen would act. Like, I imagine like someone did like, on your nerve or plain Jane. Like, if someone was like, rude to them, like, they would be like. And clock it. Yeah, that's fierce. It's so freaking. I live for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I look forward to. And it's like, literally paparazzi other reason, like, Prince Diana died. So it's like, I would also be scared at that level. Britney, like, shouldn't, like, leave the house because paparazzi are circling Britney Spears's house. She got a dui. Was it a dui? Did she?

[Michaela]

It was a dui. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. She got a dui.

[Oscar]

I think they were following her for an hour. Like the cops, something. Somebody was following her literally off our exit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally. Because I was like, it's Inventura county. So I was like, trying to see. And it was like, literally right off our exit. And anyways, the whole point, it's. And obviously that's sad and it's awful and that's a horrible thing. And obviously, like, I like, I love Brittany more than anything and hope she, like, gets help. But like, the fact that, like, paparazzi are, like, circling, like, it's like a helicopter circling your house like, right now, which is like, so insane. There's like, people being accused of being, like, criminals, you know, and there. There's no helicopter circling, like, P. Diddy's house. There's no helicopter circling, like, all these other people being accused of stuff. It's like Britney and it's like, it's just so weird to me. And it's like, yeah, they make you go crazy. It makes you paranoid. It makes you go crazy. It makes you go nuts. I think Britney is the prime example of paparazzi, like, pushing it too far and, like, taking over the edge. I mean, she, you know, she seems to have issues with fame and people and obviously for a reason. You know, it's like, she wasn't always like that. You look back and be like, she used to love the Cameron people. It's like, yeah. Before people became weird in her roster. And, like, there's helicopters circling her house now from. For a dui, which is questionable because, like, as people were saying, is, like, her limit wasn't technically.

[Michaela]

Yeah, she's below.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So what? Like, it. It doesn't make sense. That's a whole conspiracy. But it's just they treat women very differently how they treat men. There's men out there, like a Kanye, that maybe we should be circling his house. You know what I mean? Like. You know what I mean? There's so many things, and it's like Brittany is the one that's. It's. It's. It's actually wild. Anyways, we. We stand chapel. Hate the pap parazzis.

[Michaela]

Well, I feel like it just, like, some people just cross in line.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

I think they're. They have a job to do. And they obviously, like, paparazzi can work to your advantage. As we see Donna Kelsey with the paparazzi walking to the block, like, it can definitely be fierce with the paparazzi. Your paparazzi moment, when you're carrying, like, 10 boxes outside of FedEx, like, that's amazing. I live for that weekly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, see, it was not staged. I don't know how that happened or where that person was, but that was everything.

[Michaela]

See, so sometimes, like, it is really fierce. I think, like, when you just cross boundaries and, like, invade personal space and you do really sneaky things to do the job, you know, like when you do your job unethically, I think that's when it kind of becomes the problem, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you'll probably burn in hell.

[Michaela]

Yeah, Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you will. I think you will burn in hell for real. What do you mean? You're gonna, like, not respect someone's boundaries for a buck?

[Michaela]

You know my favorite Britney. Britney, paparazzi moment. Tell me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love discussing this.

[Michaela]

When she said the paparazzi were, like, editing. And I do believe her, to be honest. She said they were altering her photos to look fatter. And then when she reposted it, she said they definitely edited these photos. I looked skinny as a Needle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it.

[Michaela]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Skinny as. That's how I'm feeling. That's how I manifest station. Instead of be like, here's what I eat as a fatty. Like, a lot of tick tockers do that. I'm gonna be like, here's what you get a skinny girl. I'm just gonna manifest being skinny because like, honestly, that's what you got to say. And she was skinny as a needle. She's always has been. Britney. Yeah, I do love that moment. There's a lot of great Britney paparazzi moments. And she's beautiful.

[Michaela]

Yeah. Some. Some sinister but some kind of fierce as well. Yeah, it just depends. It is a spectrum, I suppose, I guess. Back to Timothy. Shalom May.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. We had more news.

[Michaela]

Yeah, well, we went from Timmy to Kylie pretty quickly in that same interview, the Vanity Fair interview. Kylie did say that she wants more kids. So having kids with Timmy, that would be cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's what he should do. He should be like a stay at home dad.

[Michaela]

I feel like that'd be Kylie's career. Acting career takes off like. Yeah, just give. Yeah. You take an acting hiatus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Michaela]

Let people miss you do. Because he does do like one critically acclaimed movie a year at this point. He gets like. Does the awards campaign. Let's take a couple years off. Let Kylie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Michaela]

Do the acting. Yeah, let's like, let's rotate. Let's rotate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ava Mendes did it for Ryan Gosling.

[Michaela]

Yes, exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think we need to see less Timmy. We love him. But stay at home dad would be great.

[Michaela]

Just a little break. A little break. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

See Kylie do the main. I. That'd be. She would have been good in the Beauty. That one was Ashton Kutcher.

[Michaela]

Oh, yeah. And Bella Hadid.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And who's the one that's married to Beckham Peltz?

[Michaela]

Oh, she in it. Nicola.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's the beauty. She's the beauty version like the one the old lady takes the beauty shot. Well, she didn't take it. The sons forced on her. Ashton Kutcher was her husband and forced on her. Ashley Kutcher was also old, ugly and then. That's the beauty. Ashton Kutcher's the beauty. He's the after.

[Michaela]

Oh, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Why did they. What? That's. That's a little crazy. That's a little crazy. Right? They.

[Michaela]

Well, they could have had like a lucky.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not Ashton Kutcher.

[Michaela]

Did they also make Ben Platt the before? Is he the before? He's. Is he the after?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know. I missed that episode with him and Meghan Trainor.

[Michaela]

I think he was. I saw clips. Oh, I saw a clip on Twitter where, like, they showed the same character. Like, the before taking the shot was Ben Platt. And then they showed the guy after was really hot. That Ben Platt is not. Not ugly either. So I was like, that's pretty crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's also, like, young and cute. Yeah, that's wild to be casted for Iron Murphy shot. You're actually. You're gonna be the.

[Michaela]

The uggo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but that would actually be crazy that Ben Platt was before and Ashton Kutcher's the after. I'd be like. And then Ashton Kutcher's wife. The after was Nicola Peltz. And I was like, this is. They don't match. This is an old man with a lot of work and a young, beautiful woman moment. It was very odd.

[Michaela]

It was weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also, they just copied the substance, right? They just knocked it off.

[Michaela]

Yeah, but I mean, pretty much nearly exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

Allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like, but now we're gonna get Ashley Kutcher to do this because of

[Michaela]

the Demi Moore gag of it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it was okay. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch the full show. I just watched clips. I'm not. I'm not Ryan Murphy hater. I would love to be in a Ryan Murphy show, but sounds like that was a knockoff. I don't really like All's Fair either. I really try to get into it. I don't like it. I like Kim.

[Michaela]

I do want to watch Love Story at some point.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do, too. Oh, we should put that on our list. I want to watch it too. You know anything about JFK Jr?

[Michaela]

I talked. I said this on Flopcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I.

[Michaela]

Apologies for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it out?

[Michaela]

But it's on out on Friday. But the plane. Their plane did go down on my birthday. They did it at my birthday dinner, unfortunately.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who? Whose plane?

[Michaela]

JFK's juniors. Right. Oh, yes. Because the plane went down July 16th. My birthday is the 14th, and I just remember vividly. I forget. How old was that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Was I alive? I don't remember them at all when I was a little kid. You remember them?

[Michaela]

I just remember. Okay. 1999. July 16, 1999. Okay. So I turned seven. The way I remember this, I remember thinking it was like this was pre 9 11, so I don't know what I thought, but I remember thinking, like, the plane. It was like a. A purpose thing. Like the. Like the plane was gonna, like, hit our house or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, JFK's plane.

[Michaela]

Yeah. Cuz I remember my parents, like had it on the news that this plane went as missing or going down or whatever. And it was my birthday party where like my cousins were coming over and I obviously was already a very anxious kid ago, so I remember thinking the plane was gonna hit our house or something. So that is why it's a little hard for me to watch Love Story. But I think I will still a little triggering because everyone is really into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's really into it. I know nothing about them other than the plane. And I guess he dated Daryl Hannah. That's the one here.

[Michaela]

Yeah. I. Because I kept seeing the headlines about like the. They didn't like the portrayal of Daryl Hannah. I thought Daryl Hannah was like the. The guy who did all the. The nature stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Daryl Hannah.

[Michaela]

That is somebody another someone's the last name. Hannah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jack Hannah.

[Michaela]

I think you're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe no relation to probably Daryl Hannah. Daryl Hannah is from Splash and Kill Bill.

[Michaela]

You are so right. It is Jack Hannah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I was thinking of.

[Michaela]

I was like, why is the animal guy weighing in love stories so hard?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he alive? Is Jack Hannah still alive? Daryl Hannah still alive? I guess because she was dating him and he was like in love with her and he is still alive.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I'd like to hear his thoughts too. Yeah, I do want to see it. I. I like watching stuff about people I don't know anything about because then I get like invested and I'm like. Because I think he was a big deal. I don't remember him at all. And he said 99, so I was 11. I don't know how I don't remember him. I guess I blocked out a lot of things in childhood, but I don't remember this at all. I don't remember the plane. I don't remember him. Him.

[Michaela]

Yeah, I know. Carolyn Bissette was also a big deal. For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was his wife.

[Michaela]

Yes. Who went down in that plane as well, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she hated paparazzi too. That's what I keep hearing. Yeah.

[Michaela]

But now Tick Tock is crazy because everyone is living for Carolyn Bassette Kennedy now. And like doing. Trying to get hair like her and wear the same clothes as her, like get the headband. It is. It's like a whole trend now to dress like her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, no disrespect, but a little basic. Right? Like just blonde, just some straight hair.

[Michaela]

I was thinking too. I keep saying people, like, try to like, wash their hair to get it. Like all Thick and shiny like hers. But I'm like. I think that's just, like. I think that's just good hair, period. In general.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. That's not Bruce. Diana. Yes, her. I'm not getting those vibes. I don't know.

[Michaela]

But fierce is fierce. I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, that one I don't get.

[Michaela]

Yeah. But maybe when we watch it, we'll change.

[Trisha Paytas]

They look like the people look like them. They do.

[Michaela]

Yeah. And what's his name, the actor?

[Oscar]

Paul.

[Michaela]

I think his name is Paul Anthony Kelly. That Ryan Murphy. That Ryan Murphy will find the cuties, a hot, straight guy and turn him out. Like, you'll become the next big thing. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I do. I agree with that. Yeah. He found David Hornswap. I like Ryan Murphy. I think he should cast him as a Morrison in something that's not Glee. He should cast him in the next one.

[Michaela]

Get him a before the Beauty, Season two. He'll be the before.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it might be the aftermath, the after. Matthew Morrison might be the after. Actually, he would be a good before, but who would be a good Matthew Morrison After I killed.

[Michaela]

Yeah, I would think he's the before. And then Ben Platt is the after.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Right. It should be that way. That'd be crazy. If Ben Plaza. I gotta look at that now. Was Megan Trainer, though, before?

[Michaela]

Maybe. I saw, like, I literally remember seeing the side by side because the actor that plays the after was really hot and I don't know what else he's been in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Michaela]

Was, like, thirsty for him. I know that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I wonder if he was one of the Sons. Yeah. I don't really know the full scope of it. I didn't watch it, but maybe I should. It's a little horry, though. I don't know if I could stomach it.

[Michaela]

Yeah, I think he is the before.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That's crazy. That's so wild.

[Michaela]

Damn. I googled Manny the Beauty because that's the character name, and Manny Mua comes up. Yeah. Okay. Isaac Powell is the after and Ben Platt is the before.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is. Is crazy. That's crazy. That's wild. Damn. Ben Platt, I think you are the beauty. I think that's insane. I think that's what he was shooting when he did my Broadway show.

[Michaela]

Oh, that makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like. I remember he came and he couldn't go to this. He came to rehearsal the day before. We couldn't come to soundcheck. He's like, yeah, I was filming a new Ryan Murphy horror show, and maybe

[Michaela]

that like really set him off. Cuz now he's really, really. He's pretty buff. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It will take one person calling you ugly to be like, okay, I'm getting

[Michaela]

typecast as the before. Let me go, let me live some weight.

[Trisha Paytas]

When everyone else is like so old and ugly and it's like. And they put prosthetics in him and just like, it's just. Yeah, I would. Yeah, it might inspire that. Is that, is that always what happened? I think Meghan Trainer too. I think people like refer to her as like the big girl or like this and it probably like sent her into like I need to be as probably a lot of people as funny as possible. It is crazy though how like, like I wonder how people decide who's. Who's okay to take ozempic and look hot versus who takes ozempic and looks scary. Because like Barbie Ferrer got a lot of like praise. She was at Paris Fashion Week and everyone's like, oh my God, the glow up of the century. And obviously got really skinny. I don't know if she talked about JLP1. Bobby's got really skinny. But then like a Kelly Osborne for instance. Obviously she's taking it to the extreme. But like even when she first started losing weight, everyone's like, oh, she looks scary. Even like a year ago.

[Michaela]

I think it just depends on how the results take shape. You know what I mean? Like if you look even hotter then they'll be like, oh, wow. But if you look, it depends on it honestly just depends on your own. Because Barbie already so gorgeous and like just a gorgeous model esque face.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I would say Meghan Trainor looks. She doesn't look scary, but everyone's like, oh, she looked better like before. I feel like no one's praising her weight loss. I feel like people are more judging

[Michaela]

I think because she is not like, she's not like she doesn't have like the model esque like features or whatever. Like she. It looks gorgeous and she gagget. I feel like when people look too much like a regular person like her, I don't know, like she just. It looks like a normal girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Giving.

[Michaela]

Yeah. And people are just hard like when you don't look like the pop star or whatever, people are just going to be harder on you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, but doesn't she look more like a pop star? Not she's skinny still.

[Michaela]

Like the style, the branding, the aesthetic.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see.

[Michaela]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Barbie was giving fashion model. She was like dressed in like couture yeah.

[Michaela]

So it just depends on, like, she looked great. Yeah, she did look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you say that

[Michaela]

she's, like, the most gorgeous person throughout? Like, her face is just, like, undeniable.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She was always, like, pretty. I was at that on Euphoria, too. I was like, yeah, she's very pretty.

[Michaela]

Doja Cat did issue a statement after deleting her Timothy Chalamet video. This was my update that I kept putting up. She did say that she felt like doing an apology video because basically, she just wanted to, like, jump in on it and be a part of it. She said she doesn't know anything about opera and ballet. She's not a professional dancer, has never even seen the ballet or opera. But she took it upon herself to stick it to Timothee Chalamet because of the outrage rage. And she wanted to be a part of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, me. Just be a part of the discourse.

[Michaela]

She really just wanted to jump in. She's like. Even though, like, I wasn't personally invested, I just, like, wanted to feel like I was in on it, that is.

[Trisha Paytas]

And be a part of the community.

[Michaela]

So I jumped in and I wanted to, like, look like the hero.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that was me on Tuesday's episode, because now I'm kind of, like, I guess, right. It is kind of dying. I think that's all he was saying. It's like, dying. He doesn't want to be a part of it. What Moses said, I think I was just not listening.

[Michaela]

Yeah. My thing with him is, I think the sentiment, like, it's a sensible thing to say as far as, like, it's just less mainstream and, like, less financially successful, I guess, than, like, blockbuster movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, we got it.

[Michaela]

But I think his tone and the way he said it and also, like, his antics during the Marty Supreme Press store, where he also wing, like, the delivery, could have been just like, what you met. Because he said it so many times and no one was up in arms about it because he, like, said it in a way that was, like, more calm and more, like, just more factual, I guess. Like, less emotional. And this one was very like, damn, if you're a ballerina or you're opera singer, what the hell are you doing? Like, he just came across more quit your life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

Yeah. That's kind of where he went wrong.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tiana did think the turd in the toilet was funny. I know. I was like, what? That's crazy. She go, I wouldn't do it, like, for you. But, like, I was like, okay, thank you.

[Michaela]

I had a feeling because I Remember was it here or when you were on Cancel, where they were talking about, like, they were gripping the walls.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

And they were, like, describing it vividly. And you. Okay. Word.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or maybe. I don't know.

[Michaela]

I forgot, too. I forgot if I watched it or if I was here to witness it. Yeah. And I. You remember that? You were like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I could pass out. I was like. And I do try to make it cool around a cool girl. You're like, I'm trying to. I wanted to pass out. That was great. Like, no, that's crazy.

[Michaela]

So it does seem kind of on brand for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's so not like that. I guess people, their flatulence tomorrow. Flatulence? Is that right? Someone used that term in the comments. And I looked it up, and I was like, oh, flatulence. Be my audiobook. Flatulence? Is that what it's called?

[Michaela]

Yeah. For tooting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess people hide that around me, which, thank God, keep it under wraps. I think Jimmy, too, said he brought Bipto Bismol that day because he's like, let me not. At least people know that's my bad laundry. People think Chapel Ron's a fart around me. You won't hear the end of it.

[Michaela]

Not for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not for you.

[Michaela]

You film the Instagram. This person just farted around me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yo, that fruit one was just like that. They stole my thing. That's exactly it.

[Michaela]

Have you seen it? No. And I'm drawing the line at the AI Fruit.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's still all over me.

[Michaela]

Especially as you go into your artistry era of being an actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. Although now I could play a pregnant peach. Really? Good. Because I watch, and they're just comforting at night. They're just relaxing. It's nothing scary. I know, I know. Someone did say back in the comment section, we love you guys. Someone did say. Actually, they did just announce, like, a water crisis.

[Michaela]

Well, there you go.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like, correct her again, actually, because it is affecting us. I was like, all right, I see the comments. I read it. I see it. Moses monitors most of them, so that's good. But he leaves those once. Constructive criticism.

[Oscar]

Yeah, no, we don't delete any. We only hateful things. But, yeah, if you want to educate us about AI and all that, that's important.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we love to learn and grow together here, I guess.

[Michaela]

Speaking of hate, Hudson Williams and Francois Arnaud shared a joint statement to the fans of heated rivalry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's Francois? Which one is he?

[Michaela]

He is the, you know, the other gay couple.

[Oscar]

Couple.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Not the main.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

The storyline.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

The tall one that was fellow travelers. They had a B couple too. There's always, like, a secondary couple.

[Michaela]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's the. The taller one and the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why did they announce one together? A joint.

[Michaela]

Well, I think people have really been on France lately, so. And it's like, kind of coming from, like, the Heater rivalry cast because the fandom is a little nuts. And if you get offended by anything, then you are the kind of fan that is a little nuts. Because if you're the normal Heater rivalry fan, that's one thing. But if you're the one that's calling Francois all kinds of names, being biphobic, misogynistic, ageist, Ableist. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trouble, whammy.

[Michaela]

Hudson threw everything out. He said, don't call yourself a fan if you share a racist, homophobic, biphobic, misogynistic, ageist, ableist, parasocial, bigoted comments of any kind. None of us need your hateful quote, unquote love. Love. We all respect and support and love each other and are on the same side. If you can't accept that. GTFO and Francois also showed that as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Co signed.

[Michaela]

Huh. And yeah, the fans get a little. A little nuts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Michaela]

A little nuts. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What are they saying? I guess all those things. That's a lot. That's a lot of.

[Michaela]

It's a. Basically every everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Why are they getting. I thought everyone loved that show. Why are they getting so much hate?

[Michaela]

I think there's just. And this isn't every fan, obviously. The fandom is so big. And I get it too, because, like, I'm a Taylor Swift stand, and there's some Taylor Swift stands that are just, like, so parasocial and so, like, rotted. And then I gotta get lumped in with them. And, like, no, hashtag not all swifties, Hashtag not all heat. A rivalry stands. But I think people a. There's one aspect of it where people take the shipping so so seriously. Like, they. Some people really ship Hudson and Connor in real life. And Hudson went public with his girlfriend officially, like, around Valentine's Day. And then Connor's been seen a lot with Francois, so there's speculation that they could be a couple, whatever. So, like, a lot of the fans have either, like, gone after, like, Hudson's girlfriend or gone after Francois because they want, like, Hudson and Connor to kind of be a couple or whatever. So, like, there's that element to it. And then there's like, the parasocial people being too, like, there's some fans that like almost infantilize them and like don't like any kind of like discourse or whatever. Like they're like, oh, they're just like two precious boys and they're grown.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Michaela]

You're like, yeah, they're just taking it like too far and being like a little weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah, everyone has a Club Chalamet around. Everyone's got a little. The boys.

[Michaela]

Granted, Club Chalamet has also switched gears to Connor Story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh no, she's spearheaded hiding this. She's the one they're talking to. Here's a statement for everyone actually just you. I, I don't know Club Shout me, but if I don't, you sound a little intense. Oh my God. Oh my God. I mean like I support Phantoms of course, but just don't take it again,

[Michaela]

don't take things too far.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also like you said, like getting invested in someone's like personal relationships is always a little weird. Like I don't know. If you're not supporting it, it's weird.

[Michaela]

You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think too because they did kind of seemingly come out. It's like overnight success or whatever. So I do get being protective. But it's also like yeah, they are still like grown now very famous men and you kind of just have to like treat them as such. Like you don't have to go after them with kitty gloves. Cuz like literally anytime like any kind of commentary around Hudson, I even, I got it like when I was like talked about his alleged letterboxd account or whatever. Like oh, so you're racist Cuz he's half Asian. And I'm like, okay, the mental gymnastics. I didn't even say, I said it was pre camp. I didn't even say anything bad about the guy. I said he thought it was silly. He didn't think it was going to be red.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like you're racist.

[Michaela]

Cuz he's half as. So like people really just go straight to like the mental gymnastics moralizing any kind of commentary around them too and it just goes too far. And they are so famous now it's like actually insane. Like even JLO was saying she at the Golden Globe she like waited in a line to, to meet them because they're wow, JLo's kids are like huge fans and like we're dying. Like Jayla wanted to get like a little video for, oh, a little cameo for the 20s and she waited in line and she couldn't even get to them. What was it at the Golden Globe Okay. Because too many people were lined up to meet them.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're, like, not on my radar at all. Like, I know I don't even.

[Michaela]

Everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

I couldn't even tell you their names. Every time you say that, like, do it in my head. What are we talking about? And I was like, oh, yeah, he had a rivalry, but, like, I never think of them as, like, popular.

[Michaela]

Oh, they are everywhere. And that also the gag is, I think the Academy Awards was a little nervous about, like, having a lot of buzz around it, because who did they book to be a presenter? Hudson Williams.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why?

[Michaela]

I. I think they wanted Hudson Williams to help get, like, because they. Anytime he appears anywhere, it becomes, like, a big viral moment. Like, him and Connor were, like, the two out of the top five most tweeted about celebrities at every event they go to. It's like, number one Connor story number two or three is Hudson Williams.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do we get him on? Should we DM them? Instagram. We need to add them on. That will send it into orbit. How do we do this? This? I'm going to DM them. Are they on Instagram?

[Michaela]

They are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Should I DM him right now?

[Michaela]

Owen Thiel is friends with Connor's story, so maybe he's. Yeah, that was the first podcast story did.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we should do it now. Let's see if we get a response by the end of the show.

[Michaela]

You should tell Connor you love his work in Joker too, before they do. That's. That's your ticket.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Honestly, I'd interview him on there. You know, they might say yes. You know who. Who says you miss. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Michael Jordan. Probably.

[Oscar]

Probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was that a high, that little. The. The tush thing that he was doing?

[Michaela]

I have no idea what you're talking about, so probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Michaela]

What tush thing?

[Trisha Paytas]

He was. I don't know. It was a little D ball. Was a. Okay. He was grabbing somebody's butt.

[Michaela]

A little.

[Trisha Paytas]

A boy's butt.

[Michaela]

I didn't know that was happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I didn't know was happening. Okay, I know. Connor. Connor. Kit. Connor.

[Michaela]

No, that. He's from Heartstopper. Kit. Connor. Connor, Connor, Connor story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is this really him? He follows nobody. Oh, this is the YouTuber.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, should I be like, I'm a YouTuber too?

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let's DM him.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What if you sent me a message, I go to the dm.

[Michaela]

Oh, he messaged me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just kidding.

[Michaela]

He did have to wipe his. Once he got too famous. He wiped who he was following and. Yes. Because that's what people were. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Calling them.

[Michaela]

Yeah. And harassing. Harassing people. They were all following Wing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come on. Just. Trish. Heard your viral.

[Michaela]

Heard your viral is crazy Wink.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he the. He's straight or gay?

[Michaela]

We don't know. I mean. Okay. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should I be like, I'm married, by the way. Don't worry.

[Michaela]

Yeah, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm married. I'm not club shout me just profesh. Okay.

[Michaela]

That is the craziest job ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hi, Connor. You're an OG YouTuber. Can you please come on. Gesture charge your viral winky face. I'm married, by the way. Just fresh.

[Michaela]

Love it.

[Oscar]

Okay, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's the other one?

[Michaela]

Hudson Williams.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. This is so fun. What do they respond? I get so excited. I haven't like, DM celebrities in so long, and I'm like, I get. These are my first. Okay. Oh, Jimmy Wetzel follows Hudson. Okay. Oh, he's a cutie. Wow. He's from Rivalry.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He looks different. Okay, I'll just say I'm a huge fan. Hi, Huge fan.

[Michaela]

Didn't know your name, but

[Trisha Paytas]

he didn't rivalry and loved you on snl. That's a niche one. No, no, he had a little bit.

[Michaela]

You're right. You're right. Yeah. Say that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Loved your cameo so he'll know. He's like, wow, this isn't.

[Michaela]

Know that you. Yeah, I got it mixed up. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hi. Huge fan of Peter Rivalry and loved your cameo in snl. Would you be open to a professional? Sit down with me. Trisha Paytas on Just Trish, you should

[Michaela]

say, instead of big fan of heated rivalry, say a lead Allegiance because he had. Oh. Because that was, like, what, his first, like, acting role. And it's a random Canadian show that he had, like, one line in, so I feel like he'd be more impressed by that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, I'm gonna put a Canada flag after that. Hi, huge fan of Allegiance. Canada flag. I loved your cameo at snl. Would you be open to a professional? Sit down with me. Trisha pays Paytas. What? Why did you not correct it? Paytas on Just Trish. I'm a millennial winky face. Okay.

[Michaela]

And also you should say I'm a big fan of the Old Spaghetti Factory because he was a waiter at the Old Spaghetti Fact.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one? What location?

[Michaela]

Probably in Canada, I would assume.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also love old. Oh, Old Spaghetti Factory.

[Michaela]

Never. Oh, he worked at the one in British Columbia and West in Westminster.

[Trisha Paytas]

Favorite order. Where should I go in B.C. okay, there it is. What did they respond? This Is.

[Michaela]

You never know, I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Michaela]

Okay, Larson, while you're at it, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just dming. Zara. You know that's my girl. I do love Azara Larson. Oh, she doesn't follow me. Okay, okay. Hey, pretty. Keep missing ya. I know you're super famous now, but come on. Just Trish. How about we'll girl postmates? Anything you want.

[Michaela]

Love that, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

Love you, girl. Love you, doll. A little rainbow and dolphins.

[Michaela]

I love how gay you got for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You know, we want to be like, love you, dog.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Rainbow dolphin.

[Michaela]

One diva to another. Come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

One diva. I'll put that too. One diva to another. Yay. I feel good. Who do you think we're here for? Oh. Oh, look at her with the din Tai fung girl of my own hearts. We'll get the dumplings.

[Oscar]

Girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Girl open to pango social soon. Wow. I love her. I have a cosplay Oscar has got me ready for.

[Michaela]

Yeah. And I'm gonna be Pink Panthers.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's gonna be fun. We need her on. She's gorge. She is gorge. We were close to getting her on.

[Michaela]

I know. It is the just Trish. I wouldn't even say curse. I would say the fumble. I was gonna say. What's that word? Oh, premonition. Like we always. We have a. I get a little tingly feeling. Yeah. When a girl. A new supreme is gonna rise.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never know. But I'll start with Always says.

[Michaela]

I know. Me having to explain the lore.

[Trisha Paytas]

I realize.

[Michaela]

No, but like.

[Trisha Paytas]

But now I see it. It's like Chaparro. When she got big, I was like, oh, now I see it. Like, you know, I gotta see it. Like Hudson and Connor too. I like them. They're not in my sphere, so I think I can conduct an interview. Well, because, like, I do understand that they're popular and viral, of course. And I watch he rivalry, but I, you know, they're not my sphere like that where I feel like I could conduct a proper interview.

[Michaela]

Yeah. They stress me out a lot. So I have like, kind of. Because the fans. I should say the fans me out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. They come on. Like, actually, she said this. This is this. She's a fake fan.

[Michaela]

The fan. Yeah. And like covering for entertainment news sometimes too. Like if a cat. If a caption or Instagram isn't worded the right way. Like, I think. I don't know what the person on that runs the ET Instagram said, but they. Oh, I think they said maybe Francois could be like the new lead. Because, like, when there was a paparazzi photo of Connor and Francois, like, looking cute. They're like, ooh, like, what if Francois and, you know, takes the new lead? And they were like, wow, they threatened to blow up our building. Yeah, we got. We got bomb threats. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who they.

[Michaela]

Whoever the stands are. The Hudson, Williams, they. They said, we're going to blow up your building.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly. Okay. Do not come for me. I totally respect. That's actually so scary. And I will succumb to your pressure. I will come to the threats. I love you. I respect you. I have nothing but respect for the fans. Infantilize them all you want. Be kind. Respect the boundaries. Love from afar.

[Michaela]

Also, Hudson's the one that said all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Hudson said that. I mean, and you know what? Who says it can't be you with them one day? Like, respect if they have a girlfriend. But, like, look at, like, Haley Bieber's movie where she was, like, a fan and now he loves her love of their life. It can happen. Taylor Lautner with Tay Lautner, who's the one from Corbin Blue with a fan for. He met at a grocery store.

[Michaela]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, it could happen to you. Don't give a hug, but don't be creepy about it. If it happens, it happens. But just, you know, if they're also in a relationship. Yeah. Don't stalk anyone. Let them live. Like, that's true love. True love is respect. Respect those. Respect Connor and Hudson. I do. I have nothing but respect for my kings. Did you notice this? Can you see this on camera or not? Can you see them?

[Michaela]

I don't know if you. I see them, but, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you notice it's a sound. It's too.

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, our sound is gonna be so much better today.

[Michaela]

Work.

[Trisha Paytas]

It sound better to you?

[Oscar]

Well, I have more to put on,

[Trisha Paytas]

but yeah, a little cushion there. Does it sound better?

[Michaela]

I can't tell, but I know that the streamers do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses is turning into a streamer corner. People like that. By the way, I saw the comments. We like it behind you. We like hearing the voice. Talk with it. I was like, all right.

[Oscar]

Also, I speak so low, so this is how they know I'm actually talking alive.

[Michaela]

It was fun in my vlog. I. I guess your chair was in the background, and people were like, give Moses a better chair. I'm like, he's. He's the one who picks the chair.

[Oscar]

He's saying it to myself.

[Michaela]

Like, people were so mad at my. As if I'm the one that I come in Here. And I said, I set design. Like, he's the. He's literally designer.

[Oscar]

This is what people like. Some things are so difficult. Difficult, like, because it's about sound. And I always. I get up and I do things during the show. And any other chair that creaks and does any sounds or even these chairs, you know.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Oscar]

The fabric stretches, and it's like, who's farting? You know, like, there's. So anyway, so right now I have a chair that works. It doesn't make any sound. It doesn't make any. You know, so that's why I'm sitting.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should build yourself a little chair. Okay, here's my. My plan, for real. We should before and after for Patreon. Oh, this will be fun. That'll motivate me to do it. Since we have an organizer and we love her so much. Amani, shout out. I would love to organize everything in here. Just, like, get everything out. Then have, like, a bench made right there so when guests come, they can sit along the wall. So kind of like a bench. And then, you know, Oscar, get like, a little version of this chair, but black. And then you could have, like, a little. A little black version of the chair, too. Over there.

[Oscar]

Maybe. I mean, maybe it's more about sound.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But this chair, so it doesn't make any noise.

[Oscar]

You're right, because I made it.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's what I'm saying. So make it, like, medium size for medium bear and little size for little bear over there. Just because you're lower. You know what I mean? I'm. I'm Big Bear. I'm Papa Bear.

[Oscar]

Taskmaster that's out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

He loves his taskmaster. Every night. I'm like, okay, what are you watching? He's like, taskmaster. I'm like, okay.

[Michaela]

Is that the one with Mark Ruffalo?

[Oscar]

Don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's a reality show.

[Oscar]

No, this is in the uk but the host is, like, a really tall guy, and next to him, there's Alex, and he calls him little Alex. This is, like, the tall one and the little one. So I'm like, I'm the little one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, over there. Because you're the little chair.

[Oscar]

And I make the kind of jokes he makes too, so it fits work.

[Trisha Paytas]

But do you like the bench idea, too?

[Oscar]

Yeah, definitely the bench. But let's get that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's get that done. We have so much. I'm so excited. I wish we had more days. I need, like, a whole week to get everything I need done in this house.

[Oscar]

But that's always the case.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but we're gonna get there. We're gonna get there. I feel like this could be. This could be great. Oscar too. I do love that. That's a chair I use for glam. Not that chair specifically, but I have one like that. Yeah, Moses. That one does. Is that the one I broke or the one that. It was broken, right?

[Oscar]

It was. That's why I moved it out of here. And then I don't know how it ended up in your.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it broken? Is that one the broken one?

[Oscar]

No. We have so many of these chairs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we'll never sit on that again. That's so funny. People noticing everything. Yeah. Don't say poor Moses. He was the one that set it up. That's how he wants it. He likes it.

[Michaela]

I don't think you're gonna care. But I am intrigued. I didn't know this was happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Michaela]

But Baywatch is getting a reboot on Fox.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yes. I had a range of emotions about this actually.

[Michaela]

Yes. Noah Beck joined the cast back.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't see him on the list. I scrolled through all the photos. I didn't see. Noah back.

[Michaela]

Noah back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does he have an official cast photo?

[Michaela]

He was officially cast.

[Trisha Paytas]

They had. They did a dump of like all the new cast and he was like all in the red swimsuits. Like there was girls and guys and they were all in their red swimsuits. Cuz I noticed the guys were covered up and the girls all had to be in their red swimsuits and some of the guys had like those like sun guard ones on. Another one had a zip up hoodie and I was like, how come they're all covered but the girls are all in their like red bikini or red one pieces? I didn't see no. Unless he looks completely different. Different because I was trying to see who I recognize is like I didn't recognize anymore. I love.

[Michaela]

I saw the press release. So Noah got a press release for his. As well as Brooks Nader. She was on Dancing with the Stars.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she known for though?

[Michaela]

I think she's just. She's a model. I shouldn't say just a model, but I know she's a model. I think she had like a flirtationship or something with her dance pro.

[Trisha Paytas]

No idea. It doesn't ring a bell.

[Michaela]

It was. Wasn't season 33. She was partnered with Gleb.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yes. I don't know.

[Michaela]

Oh yeah. Okay. She. They went public. She became intimate with her partner Gleb on the day they met. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Work intimate's such a crazy word to use. That's crazy. Why don't they just say dating or they just had sex.

[Michaela]

She got cracked.

[Trisha Paytas]

She got. Yeah, like she got cracked by Glabella. It's like the first word. Yeah.

[Michaela]

Would love if she said that. Yeah, I got. The first night we met.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love saying.

[Michaela]

Anyway, she got cast. Shay Mitchell, they just announced today, is also joining.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shay Mitchell. Oh, she's of a certain age.

[Michaela]

That's what the age is all over the place. Stephen Amal is also older. Who?

[Trisha Paytas]

Stephen Amal?

[Michaela]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's he from?

[Michaela]

You're not going to know him from this, but he was in the CW show era.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never heard of it, but I guess David Hasselhoff was like 40.

[Michaela]

That's what I was figuring out too. Yeah, I was like, maybe he is like the advisor. That character. Yeah, he's 44.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mitch Buchanan.

[Michaela]

I want to see that. The photos you were talking about though. Let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was like a little dump I was going through. And they were all at the same spot in the same beach and they're all like taking this, the photos. It was on Instagram. There was like so many and they were like, that is so weird. And it was like all they're on one and then the guy are like in zip ups. That's weird.

[Michaela]

See now the way you fall for AI, I always have to second guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is so real. This is like so real.

[Michaela]

Cuz the rock wasn't in the one you were looking at. Or there was an open call and they did have like a photo of people like dressed up in the red.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they all had the same. They all had the same swimsuit and the boys had like, like blue striped shorts and the. And the women all had the red one. It looks like they were like Marina Del Rey beach looked like a little tiny beach. It was like, that is. I'm gonna find it. I will find it because it's gonna bother me. I just saw it this morning and it was like on Instagram. But you know how sometimes it's not even ones you follow? So I'm like, I don't even know if I'd be following. Yeah, that is crazy that it wouldn't pop up. I swear they exist. And it was an AI. I know it was an AI, but it kind of, I guess did look like average people. I mean, maybe, I don't know, it kind of was kind of like, oh, I don't really know any of these people.

[Michaela]

But the thing is, the official cast I feel like you would not have recognized, but Noah Beck is, like, one of the main cast members, so that's,

[Trisha Paytas]

you know, that's good. He needed something else too, you know? That's wild. That's so annoying. That I can't find.

[Michaela]

I know, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

It would pop up.

[Michaela]

Yeah, it would be because I got the press releases and it was. They just put head shots in the press release.

[Trisha Paytas]

So my phone is gonna hear me and it's gonna show it to me,

[Michaela]

I hope, because, you know, I hashtag believe women a few days. A few days after International Women's Day. Like, I really do want to believe you, but I'm not seeing anything to back up the claims.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or maybe. Maybe it was TikTok. Mango, my watching stream. Maybe it was TikTok, because I feel like I wouldn't. Hold on. One more look.

[Michaela]

One more look at your algorithm with the AI, fruit babies and all. I don't know if that could be trusted either.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. I don't know if I would trust my TikTok. I can do a quick one because it was literally this morning. And TikTok, you can go to your watch history.

[Michaela]

I would live for an episode where I never fact check you and then be like, tom Holland and Zendaya's wedding photos are here. You guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look, everybody here. It's always that. It's always me. Like, what? It probably was TikTok, now that I think about it. Let me see.

[Michaela]

Selena Gomez is a clone. Confirmed, you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I just told me about the clone. The Selena Gomez clone believes this too,

[Michaela]

so this also makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had never heard that before. I was like, okay, y' all gotta hang the clone.

[Michaela]

The clone allegations, we gotta hang them.

[Trisha Paytas]

When she got the transplant is when they all thought she was. I know. I was finding out all the lore yesterday.

[Michaela]

I thought y' all were a love advice show

[Trisha Paytas]

at the end. We take a couple questions.

[Michaela]

Clone investigation.

[Trisha Paytas]

We do have rapid hot topics of everything we just discussed here on Dusters. I'm like, well, let me tell you, actually, the conspiracy, like, things you tell me, I just repeat. I say, oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[Michaela]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, this is, like, annoying. Okay, I have this Malibu guy all over my TikTok. Do you ever see him?

[Michaela]

My trainer just talked to me about him today.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's everywhere. He's everywhere.

[Michaela]

Yeah. My trainer was giving me the lore about him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Malibu Fit Max.

[Michaela]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

He didn't knock it hit the face in the Uzi.

[Michaela]

No. And that's what my trainer said. He followed him because he said that he was. He thought his face looked weird. And then he saw his bio said that he was hit in the face with a bomb or something. And so he followed him because he felt bad. And then he admitted that he did not. He just is pickled. He just is pickled.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he wasn't. He was in the military.

[Michaela]

He was in the military. But that has nothing to do with why his lips look plump.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see him everywhere. I mean he has. Literally everywhere.

[Michaela]

He has. And like he admitted that he lied. Imagine if this was you. That's what I was saying. I was like. Cuz he. Yes, he admitted that he lied in an apology video. And it had like over 600, 000 likes. And all the comments like, don't worry bro. Like, we still love you, bro.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like crazy.

[Michaela]

So positive man. Keep it up. And I'm like, if that was literally

[Trisha Paytas]

anybody else, any girl that lies about one little thing, it's like, nope, you lie and we're never gonna let you live again.

[Michaela]

Yeah. I was like, what is going on in that world? I don't know. My trainer be telling me learning straight menus via my trainer is a crazy thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's on my FYP and I'm not even in straight manner news, but I guess his name's Malibu. So I just left a comment like I have a daughter named Albu. Like I was like, the name. This is so funny. He's all over my like.

[Michaela]

And I was trying to ask him, I was like, how could you just look at his face and not think he was pickle? That was like, well, if he got

[Trisha Paytas]

hit, if his bios was like a hit with a. A B omb.

[Michaela]

But I think he would not just look like his lips were like all stars. You know, it's like when a drag race, when a drag queen leaves, leaves this regular season, has money and then just goes. Gets. Yeah. Plumped and nipped and tucked. Very. Yeah, very Jim Carrey tease. Like, what is going on? Even Bradley Cooper te straight guys just are very unaware because everyone, I don't know me looking at that, I'm like, pickles.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think you look handsome for what it is, but pickles, I think you use it the wrong way. Someone said in the comments, I think they said you use pickled the wrong way.

[Michaela]

No, I'm using it. I'm using it the correct way. The George's way. I'm using it the Georgia. Okay, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, someone's like, pickled means this. I don't know.

[Michaela]

Everyone tries to clock me. They think I like space Wrong. They think I'm using pickled.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wrong thing. I'm like, actually, everyone says, no, I didn't see. I see, like, one comment and I'm like, oh, actually. But then I. I don't care to write it down and, like, tell you exactly what it said. And I'm like, okay. I don't know, because they actually pickled means this. And I'm like, I don't know.

[Michaela]

The Georgeous from Drag Race World. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

George's peach.

[Michaela]

Just George.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, just Georgeous. Oh, there should be a last name with that.

[Michaela]

Like the name Georgeous. Like, gorgeous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I thought, like, George is like, Georgia.

[Michaela]

No, you. You've definitely seen a season with Georgeous, I would think. No, you saw.

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely not.

[Michaela]

She's been on, like, three All Star seasons. You would have seen it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never watched All Star. We watched one. We started watching one All Star. I just didn't like that nobody was getting eliminated.

[Michaela]

I was like, this is gorgeous. Was on an All Stars with no elimination.

[Oscar]

So that doesn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we stopped. I was like, ah.

[Michaela]

But you never said you never saw the tweet. That's like, this turkey is so good. Makes me want to vogue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely not. Definitely not. But I believe you.

[Michaela]

Like, it's muggy out here when, like, the mug is good.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Michaela]

Wow. Like, I get your FYP is just the fruit babies as opposed fruit babies.

[Trisha Paytas]

We've lost you, Malibu.

[Michaela]

We lost you. I don't even know in the AI Bay watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know that actually, like, so weird now. I wish I would have, like. I don't know. It probably was something not.

[Michaela]

Do you think they'll go woke and have a curvy girl on or. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, not in the pictures I saw. That's what I was. That's. Initially my initial emotional was like, oh, no fatties. But I'm like, it's fine. It's bay watches that need fat. Me just trying to be like, there needs to be fatties. The target die include vanities. I don't think. I know it's not the same, everybody. I know it's not the same.

[Michaela]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can. I can lose weight, but. But yeah, there's definitely no fatties on the one that I saw.

[Michaela]

But questionable, I guess. But yeah, you know,

[Trisha Paytas]

fat people can be in lifeguards 100%.

[Michaela]

Yes. Get a. A bear. A bear could definitely be a good lifeguard.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could be and just grab onto some flotation devices. My belly, my boobs, my thighs. It's all just floating there, see?

[Michaela]

And some muscular Guys, like, Darien, who is like, you have more muscle than fat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just.

[Michaela]

Just think so. I don't know. I would rather have someone with a little buoyancy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me, the no back. Who's saving you, me or Noah back.

[Michaela]

I would trust you more. I feel like when you're in the pool, you just float, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I do flow. I actually am very, very buoyant.

[Michaela]

I believe it. And me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. We should have floating contests. Who floats? Because I can literally lay there for so long and just. It literally rises up. My legs just start going up. And you're like, oh, my gosh. I'm very buoyant.

[Michaela]

Contest is great.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's fun. That could be part of our fitness challenge. Bring your swim trunks. We'll do a little floating.

[Michaela]

Oh. Oh, my God. Congrats, Noah. Back on. On the road.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That is big. That's huge. You know, I don't know. It's like doing another Baywatch even. I love Zac Efron, but, like, hated that reboot. And it's a movie, but it was

[Michaela]

kind of gagged here. I was like, I didn't even know it was happening. Like, I. I didn't even hear, like, murmur.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Michaela]

The Baywatch reboot was in the works, so I was like, wait, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, like, it doesn't work now. I worked in the 90s. We get it. Okay. Hot bods on TV. But it's like, we see hots on Tik Tok.

[Michaela]

It was. It was less accessible, really. Right. Like, when you're like. Especially if you're a kid who, you know you're not going to buy a Playboy or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, there's no Internet, so it was like, getting that on TV is like, wow. It's like, now it's like, okay, we see them. We see Neil no back shirtless on TikTok.

[Michaela]

Yeah. We were seeing it on his Instagram every day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's kind of like. And, like, what's the angle? I don't know. I'm not. I'm not seated for it. But I love that people got the rules. And it's not. AI. You know, that's a win. That is a win. And if they cast older people, we love that.

[Michaela]

Yeah. The age range does seem very, very wide. How old is Noah Beck? Like, in his 20s. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he's pretty. I mean, 24. Oh, my God. Geez. What did he start? 12. Like, he's been around because, like, everyone, like, no. Kayla's like, 27. It's like, I thought he was.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But if you tick tock years. Right. So five years back, he was, you know, a lot of them started at 18.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Wow.

[Oscar]

18, 19. That's a lot of good for him

[Trisha Paytas]

together at 24 because.

[Michaela]

Yeah. Brooks Nader is 29, Noah Beck's 24, Shay Mitchell is 38, and Stephen Amell is 44. So the age.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Michaela]

Really all over the place.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but that's like the original. I remember David Hasloff being like, so old and all these, like, hot young people and you're just like, why are you here? Like, David Tokichi was like 23. Pamela was like 20.

[Michaela]

So interesting. I. We'll see how that turns out.

[Oscar]

But maybe it's going to be more fiction, you know, like, have you heard about the guy that got kidnapped by dolphins recently?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar]

So that's like, they might go there,

[Trisha Paytas]

you know, more little supernatural.

[Michaela]

Maybe Noah back fighting off a dolphin would be crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good one. That's a good storyline. As long as the dolphin you in

[Michaela]

the writers room is be.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love to. You know, I, you know, I like the idea. I think we are getting a little lazy with just coming up with reboots and remakes and, like, it was something original. I will say that about Marty supreme seemed kind of original. I didn't like it, but I think

[Michaela]

it was loosely inspired by a real person, but I think very original.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, it was pretty original because I was like, what the hell's happening? It's like they went too original. They're just like, let's just throw in so many storylines, lines. But I appreciated the. The effort.

[Michaela]

Yeah, Sinners is original.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that. Okay, now I didn't really watch it because I love when it's original. I know Frankenstein's not original, but I'm still rooting for Jake Elordi. But I'm. I'm here for Sinners and I do love him. Michael B. Jordan, he was commenting on Yearon Ha's Instagram. He gave her a double tap and base light into those dms. Saw that. I was like, oh, maybe he's getting those dms. He's kind of the. It is crazy. Catherine from Ace Family dated him. That was such a great him. That's crazy.

[Michaela]

Very likely Oscar winner. That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I think Austin McBroom's goofy as hell, but he's getting. He's getting in shape too. He's getting pretty. He looks pretty good. I will say, I still think you're goofy and I don't like you, but you are looking you are looking better. And that does say a lot. It works for men too. You know how women can lose weight and like, wow, it looks so much better. He does look a little better. He's getting. He's like shredded. Good for him. You're goofy, so you're gonna have to get a good body.

[Michaela]

Know I love you saying goofy a million times.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he's goofy.

[Michaela]

Goofy. I don't know what other adjective works for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Go on his tik tok and you're like, oh, wow, he's looking good. He's boxing. He's with his daughter. That's so cute. And then he does some goofy as hell and he. That's a good word for him.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's like he's like, AI. Like he might look good, but it's still toxic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dam.

[Michaela]

Good point. That's a beautiful way to put it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yearbook quote.

[Michaela]

Pull it in that water book.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your book quote. What was your yearbook quote?

[Michaela]

Do you want to guess who I quote?

[Trisha Paytas]

Taylor Swift.

[Michaela]

I've been about it. That I've been about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one?

[Michaela]

If you're lucky enough to be different, don't ever change. Taylor Swift.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right. That feels like you in a year.

[Michaela]

That's like the most me thing that could possibly. That's why I said I've literally been the same. Like my personality has been the same my entire life. I fear for better. For better or worse.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right. You haven't changed.

[Michaela]

And I was lucky enough to be different.

[Trisha Paytas]

You've been stable.

[Michaela]

Look at me now. You thrive here.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are very. You are very stable. You are consistent. You are reliable. I like that. Yeah. Never change. I'm always changing. I'm always growing. You need a little. A little different. Did you look at my belly? Why? Why'd you look at my belly? The way I'm sitting. I'm trying to make it look skinnier. Does it look skinnier when I'm sitting?

[Michaela]

It'll genuinely look your direction.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying to look like I tucked into the chair.

[Oscar]

So I looked. I took my headphones off cuz like my head was hurting. So I was like. I was just like gazing out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is how I feel around this hour too. When I'm like in the bright lights and that thing's going, I'm just like, the abyss is here. The abyss is here.

[Michaela]

I did think of you with your tale this morning about Erewhan, because Donald Trump's granddaughter, Kai Trump, she. Have you seen her? She's. I guess she's been in clips on TikTok. Anyway, she's at YouTube YouTuber now, but she is. Everything about her grandfather aside, I suppose for a second she was getting backlash because she did a video going to erewhon, like a YouTube vlog, and it was titled I brought my Secret Service to Erewhon, which is like, girl. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, is this a real Trump person? She's actually related or she just used the name?

[Michaela]

No, she's a real granddaughter.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they give secretary to the grandkids. Jesus. This is where our tax dollars are going.

[Michaela]

So Kai can go to Erewhon. That is crazy to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I feel like. Okay. I don't know how I feel about it. I guess that, you know, I guess work. I guess. I don't know. I guess I would like Secret Service from Albu. I'd want them to follow her everywhere. I guess people are mad. I don't know what's the hot dog? The people are mad.

[Michaela]

Yes, people are mad. It went viral.

[Trisha Paytas]

She has Secret Service or that she's just going to Airwine and using them or using it for. For all of content.

[Michaela]

Yes, all of that. All of that, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Secret Service probably don't need to be in the content.

[Michaela]

And then like, using them as, like, the clickbait. And then she did, like, a haul slash reaction to everything that she bought and she was grossed out. Like, all that quote unquote. Like, how I feel like it was trying to present tea. Well, also, like, it was trying to present as, like, relatable. Oh, this expensive groceries or like, not even that good. But also stuff so, like, you can't title it. Then bringing my Secret Service to Erwan and then trying to, like, relate to us when you just. And then. Yeah, it's like, very conflicting. Granted, she's a teenager, but also, granted, you're being a little diabolical, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Taking like said who should relate to the outside. I guess I was like, the granddaughter of a president. Had Secret Service. I'd probably be flexing it too, you know, like. Oh, like. Yeah, I probably would for sure. I'd put, like, if I was like a teenager, I'd probably be like, you know, crimping their hair and stuff for, like a content. You know, like, you're just doing weird guys.

[Michaela]

Diabolical. You never saw Sasha and Malia out there doing all kinds of ruckus, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but it was social media wasn't what it was back then, you know what I mean? Like, now it's like, tick tock. You got to get them views, you know? It's like you got to get. You got to stay relevant. I'm not mad at it. I guess. I guess I haven't really seen it. I think the whole ill like snails. I guess that is just something everyone goes through. I'm not going to knock it. My mom, Lana Paytas, was trying matcha for the first time at Jack in the Box. And she also was like, not for me. And I was like, honestly, work. Like you gave an honest opinion. And she loves their sourdough Jack, she said, but she Matcha is not for me. But I was gagged when she tried it. And she's like, what? I was all right, Mom. Just because we always tell our kids, I think they see it from the girls on TV that Ellie and Charlotte, they'll be like, no. Like, before even trying anything, we're like, no, you don't sell it to food. Like, try it, you know, and they are one in three. But I guess like, in general like people. Teenagers too. I tried to be better at that too. I try not to be like, I wouldn't be like that. I was ranch. But they were right next to me, so. So I'm like, it's okay. Not for me, but not, you know,

[Michaela]

but

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't knock it. But I guess, you know, it's probably more who she's related to and the last name Trump people don't like, right

[Michaela]

T. And also just like you, you got to kind of pick a lane. Like, either you're going to be the relatable girl or you're just going to be like the outlandish, living this like crazy life girl. Because I feel like she is trying to just like ride the middle there.

[Trisha Paytas]

But look at Michaela. She's thriving.

[Oscar]

And she does both think any trouble. Trump is trying to be relatable. They always try to be like, look at me, I'm made out of gold.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we don't know the. The private Trumps. Maybe there's someone private out there not trying to be. Look at me. I'm sure there's more granddaughters at Secret Service that we don't know about because they're private.

[Oscar]

But yeah, I mean, everyone, even if you're not president anymore, you still get Secret Service.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the granddaughters. So Malia Obama still has Secret Service.

[Oscar]

They have the choice. It just depends on, you know, how they take it.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, I wish I had. I would take it. Right? That feels kind of nice to have a little security. Someone shows up at the gate and they say it's a postmate. It's like, actually, could you bring that in for me? I'm seeing one face to face.

[Michaela]

Okay. Mr. Beast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he do that?

[Michaela]

Remember, he didn't. Doesn't want to see any, like, service.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's different. If it's like, people working in your house in your day to day, that's so different. As opposed to a random person who could may or may not be a postmate with bad intentions. I never go out anymore because we were like, trash. And I'm like, no, absolutely not. I go back inside, leave it at the door always. But it's different. Yeah. No. Mr. Be crazy.

[Michaela]

Also, speaking of Michaela, I really have to mention this for a second because hashtag justice for Oscar. Because she did admit, like, she got all these comments about, like, oh, the marketing of, like, announcing your dating and releasing a perfume and did I clock that? Yes. And what did you say? No. She's always releasing something, hashtag justice for Oscar. Because Michaela herself admits that's part of her marketing. And also hashtag justice Roscoe again, because when I said it was marketing the other time she launched pov, I got yelled at and she was crying on her Instagram story. But she's admitting that she is part of the marketing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she is that marketing machine.

[Michaela]

Run it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I say just do. Yes. Swerve. You know, we can be Timothy's enemy one day, and we can like Timothy, you know, that is your brand.

[Michaela]

That is definitely your brand.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just go with the flow. You can change your mind. Like Chapel. She could like paparazzi. And then 10 minutes later, she doesn't have to like the paparazzi. Power of consent and withdrawing consent whenever you feel like it, period. Well, you guys, this has been a great one. I love. I love a Thursday the weekend and just having fun and just Oscars. Oscars. We got stuff to talk about. We'll have stuff. Talk about next week. Anyone care about award shows? I don't think so. I don't think they're tuning into us for the recap, but it's a good one. Oh, and St. Patrick's Day, wear your green. Oh, is that next week?

[Michaela]

Oh, wow. I'm glad you reminded me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Don't forget. Otherwise, we're gonna pinch you or call hr. All right, Love you guys. We'll see you soon. Have a great day. You want to do a little bye with your gloves?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Okay. Bye. Bye.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bye. Have a great day.