Jeff Wittek Claps Back at Tana Mongeau Rumors + DadTok Rage-Baits MORMON WIVES Fans | Just Trish 260

Summary

Just Trish Podcast - Episode 260

"Jeff Wittek Claps Back at Tana Mongeau Rumors + DadTok Rage-Baits MORMON WIVES Fans"

March 20, 2026

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Overview

In this lively, unfiltered episode of Just Trish, Trisha Paytas and co-host Oscar Gracey—joined by frequent collaborator Jimmy—dive headfirst into the whirlwind of current online drama. They unpack this week’s hottest Internet trends: from drama in the TikTok Mormon influencer world, Jeff Wittek and Tana Mongeau’s evolving relationship and rumors, to the pop culture discourse dominating red carpets and social media.

The trio delivers their signature blend of brutally honest (and often hilarious) opinions, providing a mix of passionate rants about reality TV, the ever-changing influencer landscape, viral fame’s double-edged sword, and broader reflections on pop culture evolution. As always, nothing and no one is off limits, with spontaneous tangents about food, nostalgia, viral monkeys, and the weird realities of influencer life.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. DadTok & Mormon Wives Reality TV Meltdown

• Trisha’s Furious Rant on DadTok: Trisha opens with outrage after diving into Season 4 of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, focusing on Jordan, “the leader of DadTok,” and his “attention-seeking” behavior during a family event.

  • “We have like 3-year-old, 4-year-old, 5-year-old kids waiting around outside… waiting for these butterflies to be released... and Jordan has to make the announcement—hey, everyone, DadTok got invited to the villa… Like, are you new?” (05:22)
  • She rails against the “cringe” of DadTok copying MomTok and accused them of “wanting the lifestyle without the work.”
  • Jimmy and Oscar join in, mocking the self-importance and aesthetics of the DadTok group.

• Jordan’s ‘Villa Announcement’ Debacle:

  • The group dissects the now-infamous “butterfly release” episode, slamming Jordan’s performative villa invite and narcissism. Trisha and Jimmy both agree: “This dad talk is diabolical.” (15:26)

• Underlying Critique: They question why brands and viewers still reward these “rage-baiting” dynamics, and how PR, business, and influencer self-awareness (or lack thereof) all collide.

2. Taylor Frankie Paul Scandal & Bachelorette Fallout

• Unpacking Domestic Violence Allegations:

  • Jimmy summarizes the new and older DV allegations against Taylor Frankie Paul, emphasizing the difference between PR spin and genuine accountability.
    • “It is annoying to have stuff brought up from your past…but if you keep doing it, that’s on you.” (19:35)
  • Oscar provides background on press timing and media strategies, while Trisha questions Taylor’s sidestepping responses.

• Should the Bachelorette Season Air?

  • The group debates whether a reality star facing ongoing abuse allegations should remain on air.
  • “If somebody is proven to do that, should they air that?...It is a privileged thing…if it was a male or a different race, it could be a little different.” (26:34)
  • They touch on the polarizing nature of influencer cancellations and how reality TV profits off drama and controversy.

• Pop Culture’s Soft Launch Fatigue:

  • Trisha’s sidebar: annoyance at the trend of anonymous/“soft launch” boyfriend reveals among influencers.
    • “Girl, either put his whole body in it or just leave it alone.” (29:10)

3. Red Carpets, Jake Shane, and the Influencer/Journalism Divide

• Variety’s ‘Hit Piece’ on Jake Shane:
  • The team debates whether Variety’s coverage of Jake Shane’s Oscar red carpet mishaps was warranted.
  • “I do think there is room for influencers on red carpets, though...but just have someone with more experience anchor the event.” (58:33, 60:00)
  • Oscar and Jimmy reflect on the dying landscape of entertainment journalism and the inherent resentment between traditional reporters and social media stars.
• Discourse on Cancel Culture, Fame, and Internalized Homophobia:
  • Discussion expands to internal community tensions: “With gay influencers, a lot of hate comes from other gays. It’s like a jealousy thing.” (63:20)
• Emma Chamberlain as Model for Influencer Ascendancy:
  • Her successful shift from interviewer to celebrity is presented as a blueprint—“She is someone who went from doing interviewer stuff to now, she’s like The Star.” (79:28)

4. Viral Fame & Influencer Reality Checks

• Impact of Sudden Virality:
  • The panel praises Jules LeBlanc’s open TikToks about how rapid Internet stardom prompted her struggles with substance abuse, noting the gap between public perception and internal reality.
    • “That kind of success, so fast, to someone so young…can just trigger you, make you go down paths you never thought for yourself.” (108:56)
• When Brands Actually Show Up:
  • Standouts like “Staples Baddie” and Ocean Spray’s viral TikTok star are lauded for maintaining authenticity and being recognized (and compensated) by their companies.

5. Pop Culture Nostalgia, Random Rants & Lightning Rounds

• Disney Channel Mount Rushmore: Trisha and Jimmy debate which stars are “most impactful,” with Miley Cyrus, Raven Symone, and Ashley Tisdale ranking high. (99:10–102:19)
• Hot Takes on Body Image in Fashion: They discuss recent body shaming at the Vanity Fair party and generational beauty standards.
• Random Relationships: Updates on viral monkey “Punch” at the zoo, Debby Ryan’s “downfall of Disney,” and Coach Oscar’s new spaghetti sauce brand deal get joyful shout outs.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trisha on DadTok:
  “I don't even want to hear, like, ‘hate means love,’ because it's just pure hate. I don't want anything bad to happen to Jordan—like, you know, stay alive, all that. But, like, get off my TV.” (07:42)

• Jimmy on PR and Abuse Allegations:
  “If you keep doing it, that's on you… I can't keep, like, covering for her and be like, well, it's...every time something big happens, something gets brought up.” (19:35)

• Oscar on Influencer/Journalist Tensions:
  “It sucks. People go to college and whatever, but times are changing—people might just go straight influencer now. College is good to have in your back pocket. But now, everyone wants a podcast!” (66:35)

• Trisha on Influencer Soft Launches:
  “I am so sick of these stupid little soft launches—it's so, like, a nothing burger. Like, 'who could this bicep belong to?'” (29:18)

• On the Jake Shane Hit Piece:
  “One misstep doesn't equate…but like you said, give a little bit and then, like, influencers are ruining everything.” (78:44)

• On Jules LeBlanc’s Viral Downside:
  “People assume you get viral…everyone was using it, Beyonce was sending her stuff. They think everything is great now, but that kind of success so fast…can like, just open you up to this world.” (108:30)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00–06:50 | DadTok & Mormon Wives - Origin of the butterfly incident, Trisha’s critique, and the rage baiting.
• 06:50–18:30 | DadTok’s influence, Jordan and Jesse’s infamous villa trip, extended DadTok/ MomTok tea.
• 18:30–27:00 | Taylor Frankie Paul abuse allegations, legal fallout, & media’s complicity.
• 29:00–33:45 | The futility of soft-launch “relationship” reveals in influencer culture.
• 55:05–65:00 | Jake Shane, Oscars, influencers vs. journalists, and the “hit piece” fallout.
• 79:28–80:56 | Emma Chamberlain as an influencer-to-celebrity case study.
• 99:00–102:19 | Disney Channel Mount Rushmore debate.
• 108:56–112:09 | Viral fame, addiction, and brand partnerships (Jules LeBlanc & Staples Baddie).
• 142:24–143:40 | Random tangents: child beach trauma, baking, and the value of a partner who cooks.
• Bold Sidebar Segments:
  • Butterfly Box Breakdown (05:22)
  • Domestic Violence Discourse (19:35)
  • Jake Shane/Variety Recap (55:05–65:00)
  • Soft Launch Sidebar (29:10, 29:18)
  • Staples Baddie & Dr. Pepper Jingle (110:34–112:09)

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Tone & Takeaways

Just Trish thrives in delivering a mix of comedic outrage, unfiltered honesty, and insider reality TV knowledge. Trisha’s pop-culture rants and “everyone is replaceable” mantras are balanced by Oscar’s and Jimmy’s informed, analytical perspectives. The tone is conversational, passionate, and sometimes self-deprecating—making even arcane corners of TikTok seem relevant and entertaining.

For listeners who missed the episode:

• Get a firsthand, almost play-by-play account of why Mormon Wives and DadTok are suddenly lighting up TikTok discourse.
• Hear nuanced takes on influencer accountability and the privilege/fallout of reality fame.
• Catch up on evolving red carpet culture, from Jake Shane’s debacles to Emma Chamberlain’s success.
• Marvel at Trisha’s ability to pivot from reality TV scandal to zany childhood anecdotes, all in one breath.

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Additional Highlights

• Pop Nostalgia: They revisit the Hannah Montana wig saga, Disney moguls, and '90s pop classics (Michael Jackson, etc.).
• Food Tangent: Extended hilarity about nostalgia brands, homemade flan, and Oscar's “Love Is Delicious” dating show idea.
• Serious Sidebar: Intriguing but lighthearted debate on US tax structure, the inefficiency of state budgets, and “let the Nigerians in” immigration riff.
• Podcast Signature: Returns repeatedly to the idea that drama is for entertainment, not always for real life—“Don’t take anything too seriously—unless you have a domestic violence charge. Maybe take that one seriously.” (143:45)

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, I never been able to. To enjoy, like, any of these premieres because something always comes out every time. It's like the premiere week, blah, blah, blah. Well, girl, Jeff, you're the one that commented and post like, what?

[Jimmy]

Also, like, the channel we once knew is gone. Thank God. Do you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because now she's inspiring Jules LeBron.

[Jimmy]

She's sober, she's happy in a relationship, a stable relationship. Well, that's. She listened to the History album. Do you not know any songs from it?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Jimmy]

Where were you? Hello and welcome to the Just Trish podcast. I'm saying it's the weekend for everybody. I think it's the weekend for everybody. I declare, Fridays are no work days, so Thursday, it's your weekend. So have a great weekend. Welcome to Just Trish. So much exciting stuff happening in the world, and I have so much to talk about. And I'm super excited about everything and about life, honestly, I'm excited about life. I'm sad St Patrick's Day is over, but as you can see, we saw the St. Patrick's Day comes to core. We are shooting this after St Patrick's Day, but the decor is still here. The lucky is everywhere, and I. I'm not mad at it. Set director.

[Oscar]

I just feel like this week is extending it. It's the week. This is the spirit of the week.

[Jimmy]

Happy St Patrick's Day to all who celebrate. You guys, I think this is the last couple days. You can vote for Thy Heart Radio award. I think it's closed. Next week is the big week. See if we win. I don't know if mine is gonna even air. I did find out yesterday, filming not Loveline, that Tana Mongeau was nominated for an iHeartRadio award in 2015, and she said it never aired. She did go, but it didn't air and she didn't win. She lost to someone named, like, Abigail Moe or Asmo Mo or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was she nominated for?

[Jimmy]

Just, like, Social Creator of the year. Oh, 2019.

[Trisha Paytas]

That really was her year. Right.

[Jimmy]

She did win Creator of the Year at Streamys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Y.

[Jimmy]

So she got nominated again and lost to another creator. But, yeah, she was. But she said in the award, so I don't know mine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she showed up.

[Jimmy]

Yep. She told me the outfit she wore. I didn't see it, but she was talking about the outfit she wore. You know, she was. She was really making the rounds in 2019 and, you know, couldn't keep her off the carpet. Yeah, she, like, really. It's Real. And the fact that she won created the year against, like, Mr. Beast. It is crazy, David. Like, really slight. And so it's not really. Doesn't matter if you win or lose. Really, like, it doesn't matter if you win or lose. I would like to win. I would love to win. I need an award. I need an award. I really, really want it more than anything. So please vote. This is it. This is the last day that I'll be begging. Also, I will be in Palm Desert, not Palm Springs. I'll be in Palm Desert May 9 at the Fantasy Springs Casino. Me and a piano. I think Jeremy's gonna do vocals for me. Background vocals. And Netflix is a joke. May 5, so check it out. It's gonna be really fun. And I'm just excited to be here. How about you?

[Trisha Paytas]

You come to me at a very hateful time in my life because what happened?

[Jimmy]

You weren't so positive the last time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, well, that's gone because of you. Really. And also you, viewer, listener. Because, yes, I finally started secretizing wives and I can't even hold on to it. I cannot stand you, Jordan. I think his name is I cannot stand you, Jordan.

[Jimmy]

Which one's Jordan? I know him, but I just don't

[Trisha Paytas]

know the leader of dad Talk. Quote, unquote. The leader of dad Talk.

[Jimmy]

That alone the leader of dad Talk. Like, which one's he married to?

[Trisha Paytas]

Jesse. I literally.

[Jimmy]

Okay, I love that you know the names. I literally don't know any of the other Mormon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you? First of all, I. I've converted my whole 90 day fiance group text, which is me, Darian, and like, his two friends from college. I've converted them into secret lives. More and wise, mind you. I hadn't even watched the show. I just was relaying all your information, and I was so worked up over it, and I sold them on it. They're like, okay, we're gonna be seated. And I'm like, okay, work. I need you guys to be really locked in. And, like, we have a lot to watch over the weekend. Like, we need to be caught up. And then I made Darian watch it with me.

[Jimmy]

Oh, you started watching.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Season four, episode one. That's all I've seen so far. And that's all I. And I've already worked up that. Already worked me up. And I know this is like stale tea already because it's kind of been out for a minute last week. Oh, did they drop all at once the whole season?

[Jimmy]

Did they not?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Jimmy]

I thought it Was all dry. I thought it was done.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is all done, but I didn't know if they did it weekly or bing.

[Jimmy]

I think it's all out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Work. So it's not that old. Okay. You guys, I am actually mad no one else has told me about this. Did you watch the first episode like you asked?

[Jimmy]

Yes, I did watch the first episode. Yeah, I watched the first like four or whatever's out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am so like worked up. I was literally, I need to get like a fitness ring, like the aura ring to see my stress levels. Because I watched it before bed and I was like, this would be night. I was already kind of sleepy. It was 9:00pm like, gonna watch this. Go to bed at 10. I was so irate watching it. Like, stress levels were peaking. I was cortisol maxing. I was mad maxing. I was so upset.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

At this man. And I don't know if like you gave me the preconceived notions, but I also didn't know Jordan. Like, I only really knew Dakota a little bit and what's her. Jen's husband, Zach. I know.

[Jimmy]

We forget about Zach. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So seeing this man, the Scott Disick wannabe man, I was like, what the. I cannot.

[Jimmy]

What was the triggering part?

[Trisha Paytas]

The triggering party was the sip and sea. And we have three little infants celebrating the coming into the world. They're about to release these butterflies that are trapped in a box, suffocating. And like we got tick tock on the clock. These butterflies are gonna pass away if we don't free them. And we have like 3 year old, 4 year old, 5 year old kids waiting around outside waiting for these butterflies to be released. Like the anticipation is skyrocketing. Like, we are so excited for these butterflies to be out. And as they're about to release these butterflies, a beautiful symbolism of change, of metamorphosis, of hope. Jordan has to make the announcement. Hey, everyone. Dad talk got invited to the villa. And I know we have something to celebrate with these three beautiful lives coming into the world, but that talk. Who wants to go to the villa? And I was like, are you new beginning?

[Jimmy]

I don't know how many new beginnings we need.

[Trisha Paytas]

I go first. So I have a little announcement. So I'm kind of exciting for the boys. So I made a few calls. Feel like a time and play. Actually, no time to play. There is no time and place for this. No one cares that much. I literally was so funny, irate.

[Jimmy]

I haven't seen rants about this. I do. I am with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was Validated because I was looking. Now my tik tok is all right, mom, whatever. And Charli d' Amelio also went off about this, and I was like, me and Charlie on the same side of her street. Like, that makes me feel better because I was so upset. Like, these. The kids are sitting there waiting for these butterflies, and he's going on 10 minutes. Everyone's kind of uncomfortable about this. Not even. Like, a lot of the dads are excited about it because it's all, like, obviously a hot topic and a touchy topic for them. Like, what the sip and se when they're about to free the butterflies. When you announce this, like, no one cares that much. Also, he's acting like it's the honor of a lifetime to get invited to the villa. I didn't know what the villa was. So then I had. Me and Darian are Googling the whole time because we don't know nobody. It's the Vanderpump villa. Like, Lisa Vanderpump's villa. And I was like, okay. Then we look it up. It's just another Hulu show. So you didn't get invited because it's some honor. Like, they were like, oh, we need Jordan from Dad Talk. Like, he's such a hot influencer. Like, we need him over here in the villa. No, you got invited because corporate was like, let's get these two shows energy. It works so well. Last season, it was so messy for the girls that invite the dads. It's not because you are a star, Jordan. No, you're not. Like, nothing of the sort. And then he shows up to the airport. Dad talk hat. Dad talk. T shirt. Looking just foolish, foolish, foolish, foolish. I can't. I can't handle it. I literally was so mad. I was so mad. I was so hateful. And I don't even want to hear, like, hate means love, because it's just pure hate. I don't want anything bad to happen to Jordan. Like, you know, stay alive, all that. But, like, get off my tv, go get a job, work anywhere else.

[Jimmy]

I don't even remember Jordan on the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

He Look. He's the one that looks like Scott Disick. That's all I know how to describe. Matt is really annoying.

[Jimmy]

I, like, don't remember this at all. And I watched it.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's mad because Jesse. No, Jesse cheated on him in the villa or whatever. Yes, last season.

[Jimmy]

I know, but we've already been to the villa.

[Trisha Paytas]

The girls went to the villa.

[Jimmy]

I did not remember this. Oh, my God. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

The girls went to the village season four or last season season three.

[Jimmy]

And she cheated on him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I don't forget his name about this.

[Jimmy]

Like I. My TikTok gives me all the highlights and I never once heard of Jesse or James or John or whoever we're talking about. What was his name? Jesse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jordan.

[Jimmy]

Jordan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jordan.

[Jimmy]

And she's Jesse.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's Jesse. I think with an I, I believe.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Oscar]

And the butterflies survive.

[Trisha Paytas]

She really had to shake them out of the box to get, get the, you know, the wind beneath the wings. Some of them kind of, I don't know how far they flew. They looked a little tired. It was a little rough and the kids were like, can we open the butterflies now? Like they literally were standing there waiting for them to open the box and free the butterfly four year old kids. But he had to make his announcement about going to the villa. These and like hooking up with like it was just sick.

[Jimmy]

I'm so confused. They're going there to hook up with people.

[Trisha Paytas]

The girls. There was an affair that happened last season. So they are going like some of them are going to be like, oh like who knows, we might hook up with some girls because basically yes. And that's why Whitney does. Whitney was like uncomfortable with Connor going because of all the scandals that have been last. Do they go, mind you, three of them just get had babies three weeks ago and they're all going to the vill.

[Jimmy]

Right. That's what we're celebrating.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jenna Fleck is like, you know, I want you to go like I want you to go to the villa so you can bring back the tea. Mind you, she doesn't even have a place in LA for Dancing with the Stars. She has this baby. She's crashing at Whitney's place, AKA Shane Dawson's house.

[Jimmy]

Like is it Shane's house?

[Trisha Paytas]

It does look like it. It is kind of giving that. No.

[Jimmy]

The kitchen. Yeah. Is it not. Did you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't fact check. I just, I'm going with everything that's happening. I literally have been like, it's. Have you seen that one meme? It's like this boy is sitting in a chair and like these two people are scrolling through like tick tock and Twitter like and he's like consuming the information that's been me with secret lives and Mormon wise.

[Jimmy]

I have been getting the text from you.

[Trisha Paytas]

My God. I know. I couldn't even help it. I was so irate. Like and it was like 11pm And I'm like, I have to let Trisha know that my Life is ruined because of the show. Like, it actually ruined my whole day.

[Jimmy]

I kind of love the passion though behind it because I was. It was like 11pm And I was like falling asleep and I was like, let me just text back and be like, I'm with you. I stand with you. I get it. This is so funny. I never hear anyone talking about him, but I also don't know these two people and I feel like I've watched the whole show. Like, I'm so confused. That's so weird. Literally never crosses the sphere of anything. But I love that you're advocating for this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally has such a big part of that first episode and that's all I've seen. Like, he's the one that like Layla fights with him towards the end the arcade. This show is like really diabolical and like it makes crazy.

[Oscar]

We do have a live response from

[Jimmy]

one of them right now. Did you guys on the Mormon Wives, like, they're not cute. They're all ugly. Except for Whitney's guy. He seems great. He's always going to like Chicago and dressing in cosplay. Like, we love him. What was that? Oh, someone just put it together. He didn't post it. No, it's not. It says, come out to NYC from your favorite chop pickle. That's what the caption says. Did you call him a chop pickle? You must have. That must have been Oscar. Not me. I think you're so cute.

[Oscar]

This camera now.

[Jimmy]

Oh, I think you're so. I think you're cute. It was Oscar.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know Connor what you're talking about.

[Oscar]

Oh, sorry.

[Jimmy]

Wait. Oh my God. No, it's so cute. I talked to Whitney in DMS and she's also this. Yeah, she also said the sentiment. You know what? I am going to New York for 24 hours and I. I think I'm only gonna be there on a Monday though. I am going for 24 hours. Possibly get there on a Sunday. I really want to see Chicago. Even though Matthew Morrison is going to be in just in time. I really feel like who would I go see Whitney, Levitt or Justin over Matthew Morrison? I mean, I do love Whitney, but Matthew Morrison.

[Oscar]

I feel like we've seen Matthew Morrison. Yeah, we've seen most of the show by now.

[Jimmy]

He is going to be Springs March 22. I thought about maybe going down there for a show on Sunday, but yeah, I guess I would. No, it was. Oh, but that's not. That was. That was in February. How did we miss it? February 13th. He posted it.

[Oscar]

I was just tagged in it. So.

[Jimmy]

He also just loves promoting Chicago, which I love for him because they doing the work. Connor, you're not Chop Pickle.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I really don't think I was the one that said it cuz I don't even. I didn't know him until yesterday.

[Jimmy]

Moses had shot Pickle.

[Oscar]

I take the blame.

[Jimmy]

We must. Oh we must. Maybe you.

[Oscar]

I think it was a generalization.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. That they all were top pickles. Such a catch. And like not to be mean or whatever, but all the guys on the Mormon wives like they're not cute. They're all ugly. They're all chopped. As you would say. Chopped. And what's the one Pickled. Pickled chop. All of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think that you must have said that. I really don't think it was me.

[Jimmy]

I feel like I'm not a chop. Maybe chopped dunks. I probably would have said something like that. Yeah. I never hear anyone talk about that person ever. I know Connor and I knew Jen Affleck's husband Zach. I guess now we know his name because it's like forced Swami and Dakota. I couldn't tell you any of the other dad talkers.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's one that looks like Charlie Kirk. There's Jordan and there's one with curly hair. And that's all I know. And the red. Yeah, that's all I can contribute to dad talk. Literally. Also the most embarrassing. I cannot take a man serious when he refers to himself as. As a dad talker. Like, let's get serious. We're 30. Let's get serious about it.

[Oscar]

You're not existed. Like there was mom talk. They did tick tocks together. There was a style to it.

[Jimmy]

Well, that's why they're copying him because they're the husband.

[Oscar]

But they never made content under dad talk. Like that doesn't exist. Like. But that sounds dances.

[Jimmy]

Do you want to join it?

[Oscar]

It sounds so horrific.

[Jimmy]

She would love to join mom talk and dad Talk together. We could just want to be.

[Oscar]

Let's go be Mormons couple talks. But not.

[Jimmy]

No, I want to. I want you to be in the dad talk.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. They see everyone hates them. Why would you want to let Moses in?

[Jimmy]

No, Connor's doing magic.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Connor is the only one I did see like Tik Toks ranking the men of dad talk. Connor did get. I think he got like a 7 out of 10. Him and Chase, I want to say got a 7 out of 10.

[Jimmy]

Chase is the one that's now away from Shayla that broke up with Shayla, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Chase was Miranda's ex husband.

[Jimmy]

This is why you need to give your babies Aquaman Honey Rumble. We need to know the difference. These Jesse, Jace, Chase, Ashley, Monica, Taylor. Like, it's Whitney. Like, there's just. We love it, but I don't know who's who. And not to be like, that person, but it just all sounds just like a generic group of just like white people. You know what I mean? You're just like, who are all these people?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that is their tea.

[Jimmy]

And they all do look like each other.

[Trisha Paytas]

They don't.

[Oscar]

But if you're dead, you need to be doing tiktoks with your kids. Like, you need to be part of your family. You need to still be married to your wife. Like, you need to be a dad.

[Jimmy]

Well, I think they are still married. Right.

[Oscar]

But it sounds like some of them are not even.

[Jimmy]

They're going to the villa to hook up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know.

[Oscar]

It is like, to me, that talk is me and Malibu and Elvis doing tiktoks, not me and other d dads away from my kids doing peak dogs.

[Jimmy]

I like the idea of you being in dad talk. I don't know if I like this dad talk.

[Trisha Paytas]

This dad talk is diabolical. Diabolical.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it's more like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're.

[Jimmy]

It's also sick. I don't like when you, like, try to make what's going on what's working for your wives your, like, do your own thing. Like, don't copy what they're doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I know. And that's why his whole announcement as the butterflies are suffocating in this box is like, I think it's important that dad talk stands on their own two feet and shows that we are our own thing. Not related to mom talk. Like, he thinks he did that. But you did nothing.

[Oscar]

Opposite approach today, literally.

[Trisha Paytas]

And all the women are like, oh, so you're just copying us. Like, you're literally following in our footsteps. Because guess what? We did it last season. And he's like, no. Like, we're standing on our own two feet, guys. Like, come on.

[Jimmy]

Oh, and he's trying to encourage cheating.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's just.

[Jimmy]

That is weird. I remember the scene, and I cannot remember his face, but that doesn't matter. But I remember this. Yeah, that is interesting. I didn't know they went last season because I haven't watched. That's why I asked if you started with season one or you're going back. I think we have to go backwards.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'M going to. I'm starting for. I'm getting through it to be, like, up to date. Because all the Bachelorette stuff, I'm like, I'm really along for the ride.

[Jimmy]

Well, once we ended Monday, it's like, everything came out like, oh, domestic violence and abuse against the kid, allegedly. Like, all this stuff has all, like, all of a sudden, everything just like, all like, the fan. Good Morning America this morning, everything. And I was just like, oh, my gosh. Like, because I think last episode, I was like, I like Taylor, but I'm kind of like, I don't think I do, like, you know, it's like it, like, changed within, like, an hour. I almost was like, maybe we should edit, like, what time we were filming, because it changed so quickly. And I was like, oh, I don't know. People are so divisive. It's like the. The Jake Shane, too. It's like there's people who are just, like, hardcore, like, cancel Taylor and other people. Like, we're gonna watch this is gonna get the views and same thing with Jake. It's like, well, that's why people are watching. That's the conversation. Like, cancel Emmys off. It's like, it is crazy how, like, polarizing everybody is about these two people right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I guess. Let me start with tfp. I'm like, so we did TFP last night. I felt so, like, in the know.

[Jimmy]

And then you're like, we interviewed tfp, Pete, but she wasn't on camera.

[Trisha Paytas]

She wasn't on camera?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, she just called in.

[Trisha Paytas]

She. Well, she's had bachelorette press scheduled for, like, this whole week, so the timing is, like, diabolical.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, that's what I don't understand. Okay, so, right. It was scheduled. The press, obviously, her being at the Oscars. It's coming out next week. Is these allegations. Is it something new?

[Trisha Paytas]

Recent February 23rd was the one that they reported it. I guess the T is Dakota had, like, scratches on his neck and stuff. So one of his friends reported it to the police, and then, like, Dakota told his friend, and then the friend reported to the police, and that was on February 23rd. So it wasn't. It's not like it happened yesterday, but.

[Jimmy]

But it's not old. It's not the old tea where she got arrested.

[Trisha Paytas]

The first that. The first DV incident was 2023, but that mug shot. TMZ just got it and has been, like, reporting on that incident back in 2023. And that was with, I believe, a different boyfriend. No, still Dakota. But with the other kids.

[Oscar]

Because ever the kid wasn't born yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ever wasn't born yet.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it was the other kids. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So. And with that mug shot and everything. So that was 2023. But the recent stuff and with them halting filming of season five of Secret Lives, Mormon Wives, that just happened end of February, so it's not that old.

[Jimmy]

Oh, so why was it. Why was the news breaking Monday?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I mean. Taylor's been saying the similar things. Like, she was on her, like, little press tour. She hasn't really been. She's kind of been sidestepping the questions and, like, hasn't fully, like, addressed allegations. She's basically just said, like, it's all very unfortunate. And she said that. She kind of hinted that the timing is because they.

[Oscar]

The.

[Trisha Paytas]

The premiere is coming up and the. Her press is scheduled for this week. So I think her perspective is from Dakota. There's something there where, like, they were waiting for, like, this press run to kind of, like, smear her a little bit is kind of what she's insinuating because she's like, I've never been able to. To enjoy, like, any of these premieres because something always comes out every time. It's like, the premiere week, blah, blah, blah.

[Jimmy]

Well, girl.

[Oscar]

But I've seen some talk. There was a podcast that she was supposed to be, and she didn't go. And they said that every time. And I think they know her. Every time something big happens in her life, he sabotages it. So there's like. And I mean, like you said it before, this is a toxic relationship. Like, there's.

[Jimmy]

I would.

[Oscar]

I wonder if that's happening.

[Jimmy]

I would agree with it if they kept bringing up her old one. Right? Like, if it's like, okay, something happened 20, 23, and this is the Bachelor's coming out. It's like, well, let's not forget. And like, whatever. But if there's something that just happened now with ever, allegedly, because they talk about the son and she. I never hurt my kids or something like that. So that's what Taylor, Frankie, Paul said. Like, it's all. It's all new. It, like, keeps happening. Right? Like, it is annoying to have stuff brought up from your past and be like, oh, every time something big happens, something gets brought up. But if you keep doing it, that's on you. I mean, that is on you. I. I don't know. I can't really be, like, like, apologist anymore for her because it is, like, repeated behavior, and it can't be, like, Every time something big happens, it's like, well, how many times does these things happen that it's like, now he has scratches and now this. And I think. I know there's PR people. And also, you can correct me if I'm wrong where it's like, oh, you know, I can't say anything now, but I'll say my truth. It's like, I would vehemently deny that that happened. I'd be like, that's absolutely bullshit. That did not happen. Like, you know what I mean? No matter what. Because, like, what do you mean you're gonna be like, I'll share my truth when the time is right. It's like, no, share it now if you didn't do it. Like, that's. I mean, because to me, these are, like, more than just, like, a little, like, whatever, Jen and Whitney drama. I think it's like. It's, like, so serious. Especially when there's, like, kids involved. Your children could be taken away. I think that's the time more than anything. Who cares? She said she put her. She's on Good Morning America. She's like, I always put the kids first. It's like, so PR people say, just be like, I was never abusive. To even be abusive to their dad. You know, this whole thing, it could be that's, like, such serious allegations. I'd be like, what the. Like. But the fact that she's, like, not denying it is like, okay, how many. I can't keep, like, covering for her and be like, well, it's. You know, she is having a big moment now. It's like, well, this, this. If this didn't happen, then this stuff wouldn't come up, and it's really serious. It's not just, like, again, not just drama. I feel like that's one thing to be, like, drama or even toxicity. Oh, she slept with her baby daddy, whatever. In comparison, that's not really a big deal. Like, bachelors do it, whatever. But it's like, when he's like, saying, you know, the kids were there and, you know, it's. That's the most serious, I think. I don't think there's anything more serious than child endangerment possibly happening, allegedly. Thank you so much to Morgan and Morgan for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Have you suffered a personal injury? Is it affecting your life on a daily basis? How you show up for yourself? Work, family, just life in general? You may be entitled to compensation. Maybe you're having some privacy issues with websites or something. Going through Morgan and Morgan can also have you covered. Morgan. Morgan, America's law largest injury firm is jumping to investigate and help protect consumer privacy. Is the thing the age of the Internet now, you just never know what's out there, what can be used, what can't be used. There's all that fine print. Sometimes we just do accept. Morgan and Morgan will look at that fine print for you and help you with privacy concerns. If you or someone you know has been injured and you need help and don't know where to turn, turn to Morgan and Morgan. Go to for the people.com jt or click the link in the description below. That's for the people.comJT this is a paid advertisement. Thank you so much to Morgan and Morgan for sponsoring today's episod foreign. Which is like, wild. So that's why I'm like, people all just being like, oh, I don't know. And I loved her on Monday. I was like, I love Taylor Frankie Ball. But like, it's so serious. I feel like people don't like, understand how serious it is. Like, it's very bizarre to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And including abc, Hulu, I think they should be like, deny it, like, if it's not true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, well, a, there is like the PR element, but two, it's an ongoing investigation. So that also, like, as it's going to become like a legal thing. So I think that's why she also can't really say anything because any, if anything that she says will be used on Dakota's, like, legal side against her.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but saying I was not abusive to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't think she can say that because why? If that's because I think she brought like, I think Dakota is also saying there's like video proof of him.

[Jimmy]

So you think something happened in your opinion?

[Trisha Paytas]

I would think just because she's not really saying anything, I think there probably is some kind of like, video proof. That's what Dakota's been saying, isn't. I think TMZ also has been reporting that there is, like, video proof of her allegedly, like, scratching him or like pulling his necklace and like, choking him or something. And so there's that element too. I mean, Dakota's also released, like, the screenshots of receiving over 150 missed calls from her after the Bachelorette filming. So it's not looking great for her. Obviously there is some mental health like, that I do feel for because there is some mental health stuff. But like you said, like, I think when it results in, like, actual Vic, like how, you know Having actual victims or people, like, getting physically hurt. And also, I know the argument. People take it a little less serious because, like, he's a big guy and she's, like, so little, but still, like, devious. Dv. And I think people also just dislike Dakota. And I don't even. I barely know. I haven't even gone to Dakota after. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I haven't even gotten of his tea yet. I believe that he's diabolical for sure.

[Jimmy]

But without even seeing it, you're like, he is for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because the way everyone's talking about it, I'm like, oh, he must suck. But, you know, I. If I went and saw Jordan in the street and I jumped him and was trying to choke him with a necklace. Like, I. Even though he's diabolical and I can't stand the man, like, that's still a crime. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

You also have kids with this person. Like, it is a whole. It is. And it's so recent. And it's like, this is the second time that we know, and it's just like, damn. And it's maybe like, alcohol. I know. Like, the first one, she said she was drunk. There was alcohol involved or something. So it's like, maybe. But again, it's just like, get help. And I bit, like, okay. Before I knew, I was like, trash. I'll judge it. It's like, no, I clock it. I. I think I called Moses literally, like, 1200 times in, like, 24 hours. You never did block me. You just, like, seeing those phone calls come in.

[Oscar]

It's a form of connection.

[Jimmy]

That's crazy. But I was. But okay, I will say this is summer 2020, where I am, like, out of my mind. Xana next. Out drinking every day, like, just doing the absolute most. And I've been there. And that's why I think I, like, scared me and, like, it made it so real and severe, is because, like, I have. I think a lot of people have been there. I've been there. And it's like. I mean, that was like, the worst I've ever been. Was that summer that I knew you before we started dating. And it was just awful. And I harassed Moses, like, so many times on the phone calls and stuff. And so it's like, I get it, but I feel like it's like people aren't taking this seriously enough. I don't know. It's crazy. Including her. I get, like, the Bachelorettes coming out. I honestly don't think they need additional press for it at this point. I think people Will watch it. Like you are saying people are going to watch. I don't think she needs to do like a little PR tour right now if she's not going to answer the questions. Because if anything, it kind of makes me, like you said, just deny it, girl. Just be like, I didn't do it. And if what? Like, kind of like what you were explaining is like, if. If there is video proof, she can't deny it. And so it's like, let's just stop the press tour, air the Bachelorette. I suppose people will watch. She needs to be doing all this. So she's like calling in and not doing phone. I don't know.

[Oscar]

But if it did happen, should they air that? Like, if somebody is proven to do that?

[Jimmy]

I mean, I would say no, but that's. I guess. I don't know. It is a double standard. I do. I do think I see it in the discourse, you know, because there's many

[Oscar]

reality TV shows when somebody's becomes a criminal. Basically.

[Jimmy]

90 fiance is a good example. Like, right. They shut them down once they know. That guy that I was talking to from 90 fans who's in prison for life now, he. Yeah, as soon as they found out he had DV charges against him, they stopped airing the episodes. Same thing. There was a. Yeah, there was. It's been a lot on 98 fiance. Yeah, probably not, but I think it is a privileged thing. I'm not to be again that person. But I have seen the discourse as she's like, you know, a pretty. Like, I think if it was a male or a different race, you know, it could be a little different if she had these same accusations.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think so too. And we'll see. I mean, maybe somehow she'll clear her name. I don't know. But as of right now, I think

[Jimmy]

the timing would be now. I just. Because it is crazy. Like, I. Again, like 2048 hours ago, I was like, God, I love Taylor Green ball. And it's like, damn. I don't know. It is. I don't know. I just think it's like way more like serious than before taking it. I was like, this is what it is. This is reality tv. But I'm like, it's like now, like, kind of serious. I don't know. And they are. They all. They're both awful. But. But I have seen people like, Taylor's the show without the show. It's like. But all the Mormon rights have been quiet. No one has been saying anything about it, which I feel like it's like, the biggest thing right now. But I guess, like you said, maybe they can't or. Yeah, because Taylor's like, yeah, they told me they. Did you watch the Good Morning America? Yeah. And she's like, they told me they paused. I don't know. I don't have a say in it. Like, aren't you an executive producer? She's like, yeah, because we, like, produce our lives. And I was like, what do you mean, your executive producer? You don't know why they're pausing it? You know, it's just. It's not a good press run for her right now. It makes just worse, you know, just. I don't know. Just stop talking.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know it does. Like, again, one element of the whole thing that does kind of make me scoff a little bit is there is discourse now because we now know that Taylor ends up going back to Dakota because, you know, she's been calling him. They obviously had contact and stuff. After the Bachelorette, I guess it leaked who she picks from, like, show spoilers. But then also there's, like, paparazzi photos of her and a guy, and she did that tick tock with the guy's arm, which. I'm. A quick sidebar before I go back to my point. I am so sick of these stupid little soft launches. Or it's not even. It's kind of a hard launch, I guess, with, like, men's arms and the frame. Either be about it or don't be about it. Michaela, you two, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, you like. Okay, I'm. It's so, like, a nothing burger. Like, oh, who could this bicep belong to? Girl either put his whole body in it or just leave it alone.

[Oscar]

Like, just to let you know, we did that, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you really?

[Jimmy]

We did a soft launch, girl.

[Oscar]

You too. Literally, an arm. I. I cannot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it is so, like, who could it possibly be? You. It makes sense for you. You're mentally ill. I'll give you a pass.

[Jimmy]

All around, everybody right now. Everyone going to the therapy, mental hospital.

[Trisha Paytas]

And not like, this little, like. Like, tease, as if it's the. I'm like, oh, my God.

[Jimmy]

Because when you're first starting, you want someone to know. You're like, look at me. With a guy, you know, it's like you kind of want someone to be one.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're still doing these answers.

[Jimmy]

That was me at 31. I was. That's what I'm saying. I was Taylor's exact age when I was about to die. Like, I was about to, like, literally, like, I was insane. And it's like there is that brink. And I mean, I wasn't filming myself on tv, which is like another. That's a whole other level. But.

[Oscar]

And you didn't have kids. You weren't married.

[Jimmy]

And I was not incredible like this. I wasn't on Bachelorette, abc, Disney, Hulu. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you are pariah.

[Jimmy]

Actually,

[Trisha Paytas]

no, I wanted nothing to do with it.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yes, pariah. I never heard that. I like that I was a pariah. Bury that. I was like slums. Okay. I was like slump, slump, slump. I was on. When I say unwell, you know what? Sofia was an F thing. She coined unwell. I think I was unwell. I was the most unwell of anybody. It was. It was rock bottom. My time is done. I'm going out blazing. And that's what's scary. And we're all seeing it. And you know what? And also to the comments, not to us, but I see it on TikTok. So people like, how does this affect you? Why does this affect you? It's like this is. It's all playing out. We're all in this ride. We're all on tv. We're all watching Bachelorette. Like it's for us to consume. Like that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also us watching makes them rich. So like.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah. And when people say it's true, they're like, people are going to watch the Bachelorette like now until Moses. What they said, should they era, like morally? Probably not. Will it get a lot of views? Yeah, obviously. And people will champion her for the privilege that she has. But yeah, it's scary because I was. I was 31 too. And yeah. Introducing Shark Facial Pro Glow. A first of its kind at home, Facial Pro level extraction removes impurities and dual temperature technology boosts radiance and deep puffs with both instaheat and instant instachill technology. Treat yourself to a hydro fueled glow in minutes. And because Shark Facial Pro Glow fits in the palm of your hand, you can get that luminous post spa glow anywhere. Visit sharkbeauty.com to learn more.

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[Jimmy]

Have kids. But it's like, yeah, 31 and you're this. It's like, it's just scary. And it's also, it's even scarier because I think like I said, like I was just like, everyone's like, oh, she's scary. Like, don't touch her. Everyone's just kind of like still trying to champion and bring her up. And I'm like, I get it, we all love her. But maybe needs like tough love right now where it's like, this is not, this is not it, girl. You know, I don't know. It's so, it's so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I also reserve the right to change as information comes out. Like, yeah, of course, Basil. Right now it's just like not looking great. Any of the antics around, like the show. Oh yeah. Back to my point, people are like, like, wow, she really waste. Wasted these 22 guys time. Like they could have had someone who really want to love girl. Okay, this is not like an actual show where like everyone is like looking for love. Like it's like every other dating show where everyone wants a little bit of clout, a little career. Like the, the Bachelor and the Bachelorette is not some sacred show where like it's all. Everyone's in it to win it. Like everyone just wants to love. Like, yes, some couples work, but it's still mess and it's still low brow entertainment like every other dating show.

[Jimmy]

No, I agree that part.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, okay, everyone relax. Like it's just the Bachelor.

[Jimmy]

But I do think it's a waste of time because you go on TV looking to get some notoriety. So if you're like leaving your, leaving your work and like they don't pay, right? Bachelor doesn't pay. So you're like, well, I want to get something right. You're going to get a podcast, you're going to get a brand deal. Like all the Love island people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would argue now it makes them even more sympathetic. So now they're going to have a better career because everyone's going to feel

[Jimmy]

bad because if it airs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I think it. I would, I was going to say about my life, but I'll say 95 sure. It's still going to.

[Jimmy]

I, yeah, I agree. But if it didn't, right when people like they wasted the time, if it didn't air, then it's like, well, they got literally nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

But everybody, people are making comments like she, because she, if she ends up, if she's still in love With Dakota. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Like they're saying that way, like, oh, she's still in love with Dakota. Why would she waste her time if she still went back to the acts like girl. Everyone was in it for a little coin, a little following, I guess.

[Jimmy]

But some of the other wives could have like, Shayla would have been great

[Trisha Paytas]

on it, you know, I mean, everyone's saying Miranda. Who?

[Jimmy]

Which one's Miranda?

[Trisha Paytas]

She's blonde,

[Jimmy]

skinny, veneers, wears curls in her hair, has kids. Like, be more specific.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's blonde, she's single. Her ex husband is Chase.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Chase is the one who has a crush on Taylor.

[Jimmy]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whose brother is dating Layla.

[Jimmy]

I watched all this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also dated Chase.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my God. I have no idea who Chase is. Okay, I need to rewatch. I swear, I watch and I'm so coherent. That's so weird. I'm not gonna lie. So many of them do just like mix together for real money.

[Trisha Paytas]

They just like, like has been so. I like, he kept like. I was like, okay, this girl is the one that's gonna be the bachelorette. He's like, okay, got it. And then he's mixed up every other brunette. He's like, oh, this one's the one on Bachelor. I'm like, no, this one. And like, I had to keep googling and showing him. It was a lot like so funny. My brain is so tired from trying to figure all these girls out like literally 24 hours.

[Jimmy]

I didn't know I would had Moses Watch it in 24 hours to see if he could caught on to any of this because he's so out of it and that he knows no one from no nothing about this.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I'm like, Darian is like seated now. He's like, I love it. I'm like. And he's, you know, he's a little bit more artistic, a little bit more, you know, hard to win over. Yeah, he loves, you know, a miniseries, a drama, like a HBO and fx. But he's heated for secret lies and Mormon wise right now. So we truly want him over. But damn, it is entertaining. I'll give him that. I get why the girls are. Are seated for it.

[Jimmy]

Do you think. Who do you think is the star of the show?

[Trisha Paytas]

I am so biased now. Are you? You're right where I think I have to go back and see why everyone hated Whitney. But I love.

[Jimmy]

I know, me too sensible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah. She's like, no, I don't want Connor to go to the villa with all the other guys. Even Connor's like, she's got a lot going on. We had. We just moved to la. She's starting Dancing with the Stars next week. They seem like the most sensible ones.

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Jen was like, Whitney, like, are you insecure that Connor can't stay faithful if he goes to the villa? And she's like, no.

[Jimmy]

Which one said that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Jen. Yes. And this is episode one, mind you. Mind you. Connor invited Jen, her husband, the nanny, the assistant ought to stay in the

[Jimmy]

same Dawson house with them.

[Trisha Paytas]

When she arrives at their door because she had no Airbnb in la. She's saying, like. Like, I think Whitney's like, insecure about. With Connor, like, doesn't want him at the villa. But I trust my man.

[Jimmy]

Because your man's gay. That's why she trusts him. That's what I should go have fun. Like, they. She knows it's like that louder marriage. Like, how fun. I want you to go. Do you, girl? Okay. Like, sure. And Connor, I believe they talked about it in a previous season was on Tinder.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's a Tinder scandal.

[Jimmy]

And so she, you know, not that there's a reason to. First of all, I wouldn't want Moses to go either.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's no, I mean, like, same. And also it's like she literally said, well, I saw how bad it was for all the girls last I was there. I lived it last year when I saw all the mess that ensued after. Why would I want him to be in that situation?

[Jimmy]

I wonder what happened. Did they, like, go to the villa? They meet like, Tom Sandoval and they're like.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just like all. It's like a. It get. My concept of it is that they're all. All the employees are just hot and they all hook up with each other. So it's kind of like a, A, A temptation. Because last Marciano, I think is his name an employee there last season hooked up with, I think Demi and I. I think. Or Jesse, I don't know, one of them.

[Jimmy]

They're married.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. That was a whole scandal. Jesse had an affair. Jordan's wife had an affair with one

[Jimmy]

of the employees, like, during the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I have to go back.

[Jimmy]

This is crazy.

[Oscar]

What does it mean, employee? Like, are they. It's like a bartender.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it like, like, it's like a. I guess it's. It's a villa. So I guess, like, you go out there, you. You stay there and they're like your waiters. Like, I guess by the pool, I'm

[Oscar]

assuming probably is a plant. By the show, probably. Oh, those people. They're like your job.

[Jimmy]

They have a show, right? Vanderpump Villa is a show.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of like pump like Vanderpump.

[Jimmy]

It was like Tom Sandoval on that show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And Ariana.

[Trisha Paytas]

So this. And this one's in England. So it's like. It's the same concept where they're just young and horny and messy.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my.

[Trisha Paytas]

And just hooking up willy nilly.

[Oscar]

But wasn't the whole group of the Mom Talk swingers to begin with? Did they all.

[Jimmy]

I think it was just Taylor and allegedly. Maybe Chase, I think was involved in that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so.

[Jimmy]

And then the other ones kind of dipped. The other ones were like, I'm not in. Yeah. Like, not like Whitney and anyone. Who else.

[Oscar]

Because there was a few. It wasn't just.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but I don't think it's the people on the show is what I'm gathering. I think it's just Taylor because she's the only one who talks about it, which is like the reason I guess I got like picked up for a show, I guess you could say. But I always think of the TikTok Sound like a new bombshell has entered the villa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

Is that from that one? No, that's from Love Island.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's from Love Island? Yes.

[Jimmy]

Too many villas. Too many villas. Who the hell wants going to Villa? And I'll use it. They're 30s. You're Mormons.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like they were acting as if it was this huge getaway too. It's like. Yeah, it's like a free trip to England. Staying at the villa. Mind you, it's three days. Like, it is just England. Like, they're acting as if it's like the opportunity of a lifetime.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the honor of a lifetime to get the invitation to the villa. You can go on a vacation anytime. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're. It's not like this is their one shot. Like, you already rich. Like, hello.

[Jimmy]

Do you. I do wonder how much they all make. I think Private Season four, they're making more. But, like, you think rich?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so.

[Jimmy]

I think some like Taylor again, I'm

[Trisha Paytas]

really early on, but Jesse, it was.

[Jimmy]

Was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was talking about separating from Jordan and like, they never. The tease was we never. I never finished the prenup. And I could lose millions is what

[Jimmy]

Jesse, who had the money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jesse said she could lose millions to Jordan because Jordan wants to have the lifestyle. Like, he loves the lifestyle he leads now or whatever. Oh, my God. Okay, so I think they're making all that to say I think they're making a lot or also too.

[Jimmy]

I think their houses look mid. Not to be judgy, but they don't look like a rich house. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, too, though, like, I'm sure maybe the show doesn't pay that much. I think probably a lot of the money comes from the brand deals. And also a part of making them feel like. Maybe that's why I do believe Taylor, where she probably doesn't know what the hell it means that she's executive producer. Because I feel like it's one of those things where, like, you know, like. Like, okay, we won't give you that much, but we'll give you this much and you're an executive producer. So it's like you can kind of add that to your resume or whatever. It kind of makes me feel like you have more, like, power over it. Amanda Seyfried, also, she. She. This sounds unrelated, but she talked about it with the housemaid. Like, when they signed her on, they also gave her an executive producer title. And she talked about an interview. She's like, they just gave me that. I didn't do anything. They just gave me that title.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, no, that makes sense, I think. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes they just do it just to, like, sweeten the deal a little bit, you know, not.

[Oscar]

And some people invest the money in the lifestyle rather than a house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like, they want to live a lavish life and feel famous. So you're not gonna just dump all

[Jimmy]

the money into it can never be YouTubers. They were spending 50, 000 on rent. You know, those O2L boys, everyone. Just who else? Who else had those big glass houses?

[Trisha Paytas]

Remember, like a Jake Paul. It wasn't the Team 10 household.

[Jimmy]

Team 10 had one, but there was one even bigger that Tana ended up moving into. But before her, it was like, God, who was there? Was it Ricegum?

[Trisha Paytas]

That sounds right.

[Jimmy]

Where he did that, you know, with Alyssa and they had that huge house. And it was like. I remember because then Tana moved in afterwards. I remember she said it was like $30,000 to rent.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Jimmy]

And every YouTuber was. Me too. Everyone is like, they invested in the house. Not investing. I mean, they just spent the money on the house because, like, that is what was flashy. Well, I hope they invest in their life, in their experiences rather than their houses. That's smarter. But I don't know. I just don't see Jen and John doing any brand deals or Anything, you know what I mean? Like, I don't see them anywhere. I only see Jen, Whitney, Taylor. I don't see the other Macy's, Myra, Mary, Miranda, Jesse, John, Jake. Like, you know, you never see them. No shade. I honestly don't know. But, like, love them. Love the girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't know them, though, T. I think I just like the girls. And maybe when. That's why. I don't understand why. When you said, like, that clip of you being like, oh, they're. I hate all the guys. Chop. Musty, dusty, crusty. Like, why anyone would comment otherwise. Because I. From what I can see thus far, maybe one or two. I'll give a little. Connor. Yeah, maybe Chase. I'm still researching and looking into that and investigating. Maybe Chase's brother.

[Jimmy]

But everyone else, diabolical if he's with, like, Taylor and Layla and like, all them. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like, yachty. And also, like, Miranda is like. Was, like, best friends with Taylor, but Chase is, like, pursuing Taylor, and Taylor doesn't want a relationship with him. But Chase has a crush on her. I don't know. It's a mess, girl. It's a mess.

[Jimmy]

I can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's really taking over me brain these days.

[Jimmy]

But I do like another one. I think she's coming out with a book. It's crazy that more people haven't come out with a book. What did they show it on this season or.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they showed one of them signing copies of her book.

[Jimmy]

Oh, okay. Yes. What's her name? Shoot.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's blonde.

[Jimmy]

I like.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's blonde, skinny, with veneers.

[Jimmy]

She might be a young mom. There's one that had a kid at, like, 16.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I think.

[Jimmy]

I hope I'm not getting them mixed up. One had a kid at 16 and she doesn't know, but I think I like her. I don't know her name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it Macy?

[Jimmy]

Macy. Macy. And I believe the father of her first child, like, died when she was, like, 18. Like, it's like a really sad story. Yeah. Someone had just told me about this, and I was like, why do we read that memoir? I'm surprised there's not more memoirs coming out with them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sure they're coming. I'm sure.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Taylor, Frankie Paul, memoir. She might need to wait a minute to write hers. Yeah, we need that. We need the up. Yeah, we can't end on that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we gotta. Once, you know, we get everything together, mental health's in check. You know, life's a little bit More stable.

[Jimmy]

People would love it. People would love it. Things about this yesterday too is like, I think people really want to see that. You know what I mean? I think we've gone through the mess. We love the mess. And now we're like, let's. Let's clean it up, you know? Damn. You gonna watch the Bachelorette?

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't been seated for any Bachelor franchise show in a while. I'm tempted. I am tempted just to see the antics and the trailers look a little crazy.

[Jimmy]

Like, yeah, she.

[Trisha Paytas]

They show one clip where she, like, is. She's like, I'm taking all the roses. No one's gonna get toddlers.

[Jimmy]

Like, no one's getting anything. I do. I did love that. I know she gave me first. It's just like. Like, I don't know. It's like a weird thing to watch, I guess. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm. I'm curious about the antics and shenanigans and also, like, it is. I don't. I don't know. I. I don't really care who wins. I'm kind of just like, how are they gonna go about it? How's it going to be edited? I'm curious about that part of it, I suppose. More so than like, the actual outcome. Because, I mean, we know who she picks. We know she goes back to her ex husband. We know she's still trying to, I don't know, go back to the other guy that she picked from the Bachelorette. So I don't know. It's just such a mess.

[Jimmy]

I had heard in that the T soft launch. It was her brother's arm.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I heard my. I can't. Like, this is your fault. Because my TikTok now is all. I had never seen a thing on Monday. I like, even Jimmy, I was watching it back and I was going off and Jimmy put in a little caption. He didn't know any of these people 43 minutes ago. And literally that moment changed my life forever. Because now look at me.

[Jimmy]

I am, like, so crazy, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

And like, stressed out.

[Jimmy]

That was me over the weekend. I know. I talked about. I'm like Moses.

[Trisha Paytas]

You've seen this.

[Jimmy]

And then I was at you like, nothing. Well, I'm glad you're into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Yeah. And it's like, I don't. So I'm just. I'm curious about it. Anyway, what I heard was the guy was wearing a blue shirt. And then there was paparazzi photos. The. Either that same day or the day before of her with the guy. That she picked out in la and he was wearing the same shirt.

[Jimmy]

She would be messy like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Because you're not supposed to, like, see each other and be hidden.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's.

[Jimmy]

I guess no one cared in the past who picked who, but I guess

[Trisha Paytas]

now it's a little more a mess. It's just. It's such a fiasco. I don't know what the hell is gonna. What the hell's gonna happen.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I don't know either. I feel like we. We were into Bachelor for like, two seasons, and then I was kind of. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mind you, again, I will never forget Hilary Duff's Lizzie McGuire reboot was too much. And then all this has happened on the same network.

[Jimmy]

Is crazy to me. For the Elizabeth.

[Trisha Paytas]

They won't pick up the. The Buffy the Vampire Slayer reboot, but they'll air this like, it is crazy

[Jimmy]

to me the times we're living in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hulu love you, but let's get it together. Also, I don't know if I can do Hulu with commercials. That's a whole other journey for me.

[Jimmy]

But, yeah, I think we talked about this before. We pay like, 65 for Hulu and we get like 3 minute ads. Literally. It's so weird. I'm like, what? The highest it can be? Yeah, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those ads are so long.

[Jimmy]

I mean, we're seated for Hulu. We do love. That's all we watch. But. But we need to do something about that $65.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they're like the worst ads, too. Like them. And they. It's the same ones over and over and over again. And it just.

[Jimmy]

Like, we always see car ones, and then it repeats itself in that same cycle, that same three minutes. I was like, we just watched this

[Trisha Paytas]

and it's all like, AI ads now too. And it's just like, oh, my God, I can't. I can't handle this anymore.

[Jimmy]

But AI is getting so real. There isn't my. I have, like, a favorite influencer, and I was showing Ari today, and I was like, oh, my God, look at this pink drink she got. And she goes, oh, that's. She's AI. I was like, there's no way. And she looks real. Real like I.

[Oscar]

There's a lot of influencers, huh? There's a lot of AI influencers. No, what I've seen was something else where somebody was creating basically an AI influencer using one of those prompt, and it created somebody that looked exactly like a existing YouTuber.

[Jimmy]

Oh, that's what this girl looks like. She looks like a YouTuber.

[Oscar]

So. So what people are discovering now is that YouTube, basically, in your agreement with YouTube, Google everything they have in there that they are allowed to train their AI with your videos. So basically, you should expect to see AI influencers that look like you, because it will. Because that's how they're training the software. And the more people have airtime on YouTube, the more they'll actually learn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

This is based on you.

[Jimmy]

This. Look at you.

[Trisha Paytas]

She does look AI.

[Jimmy]

Okay, wait. But then I went, okay, that drink looks so good. I literally.

[Trisha Paytas]

She looks like that one girl, Matilda Dore or something.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, she looks like.

[Trisha Paytas]

She looks like AI. I don't know if it's. Because now it's in my head, like, but she does kind of give AI.

[Jimmy]

But she also looks like a Corinna cough or something, you know? Or that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bree, I love you blocking all the camera.

[Jimmy]

I'm gonna stand up like Ricky, like used to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I love when these.

[Jimmy]

Then I can talk more if I'm closer. We are kind of far away from each other, everybody. But now, like, I feel like I'm squinting like Ariana Grande or at you. I'm like, what is that?

[Oscar]

Like, writers now, they stop using Google Docs because the same thing, you know, the.

[Jimmy]

They can take it. Their work.

[Oscar]

Their AI can use their work.

[Jimmy]

It's actually so insane. I don't know what's happening in this world with everything. It's so scary. The AI, they might use my imagery. Not. Not that I want them to. I'm just saying. Oh, that was crazy. She looked real to me, But I thought, I'm pretty good at AI. Like, I can usually tell you are getting better.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Also, justice for you, I suppose, because I. I sent it. I was off my Adderall, by the way, yesterday. I ran out. So that's why I was really chatty yesterday. I realized I love it because I was in that group text. I was like, look at this, look at this, look at this.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was aware of that, too, but I'm like, machine needs to see this Moses too. And Jimmy, I was like, everyone's gonna.

[Jimmy]

There was like, 20 texts between a group chat. And Mo's chiming in your chiming Jimmy's. I'm like, what is happening here?

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, yeah, I know. And it was just, Zara Larson loves the AI fruit, too. And I was like, damn, thank God.

[Jimmy]

Because I brought up on that level too, and no one seen it. It's like, this is so crazy, because everyone on my. For you page like watching the fruit, watching strawberry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Y' all are seated. And I thought it was just no shade. I thought it was just a Trisha Paytas thing. I was like. Because I'm like, damn, you are easily influenced. But I'm like, if they got Zara Larson, too, then now I'm looking at it a little bit more like. Like, maybe it is really good.

[Jimmy]

And they get so many views and likes, and I. I really do like.

[Oscar]

The only ones I like is people recreating, and they use the sound, but real people do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. T. I can't endorse. I thought it was just like, a. She's so susceptible to things. I was like, these kooky people watching. Watching the AI Larson seated because of you this morning.

[Oscar]

There was one that came up on mine, and it's like Astrovino beating up a strawberry person.

[Jimmy]

Was Astrovino real or was she animated?

[Oscar]

Like, these people are? And she's, like, walking up the street, she sees that you're crying strawberry, and she, like, beats her up and things happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that'd be fierce if she did it and hired someone to, like, animate the strawberry. Yeah, that would be fair.

[Jimmy]

She's trying to do a rebrand or something. Yeah, because she got, like, canceled off of TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Jimmy]

I mean, hers is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even remember.

[Jimmy]

You don't know?

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember hearing about it at the time. I think via. Also, I need to stop taking recommendations from Brooke Schofield. I am so sorry, Brooke. But she. The day it was like. I think maybe it was Monday morning. I saw on. She did a TikTok. Like, sorry, but I love Taylor, Frankie, Paul. I am seated.

[Jimmy]

So who said that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Brooke Schofield. And I'm like, that's not in my head. I know. Brooke Schofield.

[Jimmy]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

On the wrong side of her streak quite often. I think it was 24 hours.

[Jimmy]

Okay, me too. We're on there. She did another one day. I couldn't watch it. You know, I love Brooke, but I can't watch it because she's like, okay, I'm gonna have to be another. Pick me for a second. Because no one liked my take on Timothy Chalamet, but I fear I have another one on the wrong side.

[Trisha Paytas]

The discourse girl. You ate with the in and out. Like, you were all correct on that order was diabolical.

[Jimmy]

She loves to be on the. She loves to just take the hot take every time. And I'm like, I get it once or twice, but I'm like, Girl, I couldn't. I couldn't do it again. I was like, we support you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I didn't know Taylor freaky ball like that. So I just took her word for it. And then all this got under and I was like, oh, like, I need to just.

[Jimmy]

That's why I make my stance clear. I don't think I can support daily. Although she had a turnaround. Yes. But even then, we're. We're kind of deep into it. Like, strikes. A couple strikes. Doing the same thing as like, okay, girl. Like, yeah, because she said something I'm Mormon wise about like ovulating. She's trying to have another baby with Dakota. Like, oh, you know, I'm ovulating this stairs. And I'm like, girl, relax. Because it's. It's not. This is not healthy for anybody. But specifically children, like their parents and stuff. It's like, you know, not to be that person. But you are. That is your whole brand too, is like, kids. My kids come first. And it's like, okay, well, let's think about that. I think that's a lot of people think about. I think. And again, I think it does come from a place of like, people caring. I know some people, like, we care about the kids and they just make or something. But if it's like we see something happening. You know what I mean? Like, it's. There is. There is. I think people can care about kids in the world, you know? Anyways, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I knew it was serious when Cinnabon couldn't sponsor text.

[Jimmy]

And again, I think yesterday I was like, planning. We're doing a photo show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you had a busy day. And I was like, no, she's got to know that she lost Cinnabon. That was like my 9, 11, 11. I was like, TFP lost in a bond.

[Jimmy]

All I thought was, we need to Cinnabon in solidarity. And I just want like a thumbs up. But I'm like, sweltering. It was like 100 degrees in the garage. We're doing a photo shoot on a roulette table and I'm just like, dying. I was like, can't. And I was just like, oh. And I was like, Cinnabon. I was like, oh, my. I almost passed out. Then I saw the Cinnabon and I was like, what is happening? Cinnabon has pulled out. Yes. You know what? They. You know, respectfully, that might be the

[Oscar]

right family friendly brand. You know,

[Trisha Paytas]

that took me out. I was like, damn, it was serious. ET was like getting a statement from Cinnabon. The Girls were boots on the ground on the case.

[Jimmy]

I didn't get a statement from Cinnabon.

[Trisha Paytas]

They just reached out to Cinnabon headquarters

[Jimmy]

but like they called it Topanga Moms like let me talk to someone.

[Oscar]

Listen upon AI that talks to you back.

[Jimmy]

That is kind of crazy. It might be just I wonder. Yeah. Who gave that statement?

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's got a little PR person.

[Jimmy]

You know cinema has pr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Corporate pr. Yeah. That's where it's at really. Yeah. Don't go into entertainment pr, go into corporate pr. That's my advice to any why because hiring public entertainment is entertainment's nuts but you know corporate PR benefits are better than pay is better over there.

[Jimmy]

So this one doesn't make the like the CEO of McDonald's like no corporate PR from McDonald's was like stepping in. You know what I mean? They're like we don't care. We're McDonald's couldn't care less about this.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that is a good segue to the Jake Shane follow up which is now.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. This week has been Jake Shane and Taylor Paul and people just being so upset both ways. Like no, I stand 10 no zombie Shane like he's the funniest and other people just being like yep, everyone's ruining the world.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like it is crazy. Yeah. Everyone's coming in a little too hot. Especially Jake Shane because I think one comparison. Exactly.

[Jimmy]

I mean yeah, like it's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah not that big but Variety wrote an article and it kind of was like it to me. I was like oh damn. This kind of like a Jake Shane hit piece almost. I don't think it was. It just came across like that because it was so like.

[Jimmy]

I agree. I saw, I saw people call it hit piece and I was like I don't know, this doesn't feel like malicious. It's kind of just reporting and I

[Trisha Paytas]

think it was such a hot topic.

[Oscar]

But wait, Variety, the same company that

[Trisha Paytas]

no Vanity Fair is the one that hired him? Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Wouldn't be crazy.

[Oscar]

I'm like wait a minute, you hired him and now.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, that would be so crazy actually

[Trisha Paytas]

no, yeah it was a variety of published an article Jake Shane's questions at the Vanity Fair Oscar party prove influencers shouldn't be red carpet reporters. And it really went in to the whole exchange both between him and Kris Jenner and then his bit about the kid from if I had legs I'd kick you and how it's basically like devalued the red carpet reporting. But yeah, I really went in on him and I'M a little bit torn, I guess, because I do think it was, like, a bad bit. I do think, as Tati Westbrook said, time and place and. But I do think that there is room for influencers on red carpets, though. And then I had the awakening. I think the first time Variety did this was Tyler Oakley. Oh, in 2016, like, having an influencer be, like, a reporter for the Vanity Fair Oscar party.

[Jimmy]

Was he?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so.

[Jimmy]

Vanity Fair 2016. I remember Ellen. He did something with Alan. I didn't know he.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I remember vividly because I was a part of that team to get him.

[Jimmy]

I forgot you were a Tyler Oakley. And, well, everyone did love him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone did love him.

[Jimmy]

He was the Jake Shane in 2016.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, exactly. In.

[Jimmy]

And my.

[Trisha Paytas]

Basically, when I got hired Access Hollywood, the guy who got me that job was also. He was advising. I guess I forget his actual title, but advising, like, NBC on their social media because, like, they were just starting it. And also Vanity Fair for theirs around Oscars. So they were doing a whole bunch of influencer stuff. And our thing was like, oh, they should have, like, someone an influencer also, like, do some of the interviews. And we're like, oh, Tyler Oakley.

[Jimmy]

That's. Yeah, that was far back then.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I. The lore that I was also at that scene in the crime. And then it kind of perpetuated and kept going.

[Jimmy]

Did you suggest Jake Shane?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I didn't know involvement in this one.

[Jimmy]

You kind of did clock it back to August 2023, our second or third episode. Octopus Lover. You have to. He's the next big thing. You. You planted the seed for everyone, T. I guess so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mindy was already gigantic.

[Jimmy]

I never knew who he was. I remember he said that was who that. I think you have to get him on. He's like the new. He's gonna be really big. Even after. Like, he's gonna be big. I was like, mom. And he is. He's big.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, yeah, I think he is. He has, like, a charm, and he does really good interviews on therapists. I. To me, like, if I were to give any, like, you know, criticism, looking back, like, in retrospect, I would say, I think where they went wrong is having just all three influencers and only three influencers.

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because this event specifically, like, the Vanity Fair Oscar party, it is every, like, a lister. It's like the A list event. Like, the highest talents, like, the biggest celebrities, except for Serena. The best, like, actors, the best producers, musicians. Like, it is just the highest. It's the biggest event, like, it's the highest esteemed event. And also, like, they get more access to the celebrities than every other outlet that is there. Like every other media outlet that's there. We had to wait and because it was live streamed, so it was. We couldn't break any of our stuff out until like 15 minutes after, like they got interviewed by Jquenna Brittany. So they were just given such priority. And also like so many celebrities, like, would skip all the other outlets, but then just go and do Vanity Fair. Because it's the Vanity Fair. It's their event, you know.

[Jimmy]

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Because like, usually like Wicked, there'll be like a whole, whole lineup. And like I was there with Access, even though Access had like their journalists and I was like next to them. But then every other person was like, at the end, it was like a long line that you had to get through. Even Variety was like, at the end. Yeah, like in the front.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think that's why with this one, like they were the like anchor. Like they were the ones that all the, the big names. The big names would skip every other outlet and all the other outlets would have to fight to kind of get like a quick moment with like a Michael B. Jordan or like any of these stars. Did they interview Michael B. Jordan quickly? Like, oh, they got like pretty much everyone.

[Jimmy]

Like Quinn, Jake, who did.

[Trisha Paytas]

He came really late. So I don't know if they stayed because he came like at 12:30. They might have got in but they got like, like Kendall Jenner, like Haley Bieber, Paul Anthony Kelly, like they wouldn't do.

[Jimmy]

Where are those interviews? I haven't seen those at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

They've been around, like they've been clipped on tick tock and stuff.

[Jimmy]

Are they good? Are those good? Is that why they're not as viral? Like, they're just.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Paul Anthony Kelly one was viral because Quinn was like in love with them.

[Jimmy]

Oh, right, right, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, I guess true. The ones I see are the ones where it's like either they flop order. Yeah. Some weird exchanges. But

[Jimmy]

so there were some good ones. If Haley Bieber was there, you know, there's obviously some good ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And I. Jordan, how's that not viral? I'd be like, oh, and they also

[Trisha Paytas]

have the advantage of like a lot of them are front. Like Jake is friends with Haley and Kendall and I think Quinn also knows them as well because she's modeled like at all the shows.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, seen them before. So like that works their advantage for sure. But yeah, I think because they have such priority. They were getting such good access. They had. Everyone was coming to them. No other outlet could break their interviews until theirs were done. That's kind of where they went wrong by not having, like, someone just with more experience to help, like, yeah. Keep it a little serious. Like, it was also unserious for, like, a big, exclusive A list event. That's a good point. A little bit.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. They should have maybe. Yeah. Divided them up throat.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's also not like everyone's so mad at Jake, but.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, not his fault.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, obviously. And I feel like anyone, if they got the opportunity, they're gonna be like,

[Jimmy]

well, yeah, of course. Yeah, no, definitely a dumb comment. I'm surprised you haven't said anything on that, because I just feel like kind of like what Miley Cyrus said when she apologized for her 2008 cover of. Was it Vanity Fair?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it was actually. With the sheet, right?

[Jimmy]

Yes. Always at the scene of the crime, Vanity Fair. So, like, she. She had just said recently, like. Like, she apologized because she just thought it would, like, you know, cool down everything, even though she didn't think she had anything to be sorry for. And I think they think that's, like, maybe something to be said here. I feel like if you just acknowledge, like, oh, it's kind of like a. That was a bad joke or something like that. Like, I think people could get over it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Because it was like. I think it is, like, that was like, diabolical. I think there definitely should be, like, discourse, discussion about it. Does, like. Like, all this. Is that worthy of. I don't know. I don't know if it's like. I guess that, like. Yeah, I guess. I guess it does just, like, people just don't. Like, influencers are just like. Well, influencers.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like a reckoning of, like, people being sick of influencer culture. Also, I feel like Jake Shane has not had any. Like, he just doesn't really have many missteps. So I think also people who just had, like, a little bit of resentment towards him because of his success are also jumping in. And so it's like a. A mesh of, like, people who are sick of influencers, people who just don't like him, like, really piling on and making it bigger.

[Jimmy]

Well, yeah, I'll echo Jimmy. Hopefully it's okay. You can put this in. If not, you can cut it. Jimmy said something that he thought a little homophobic because it was Jake's chain, specifically when, like, not to say, obviously, Jake had that Misstep with that question. Obviously, like, that was so dumb. But you know Conan o'.

[Oscar]

Brien.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Conan. With, you know, Britney being like, what are these questions? And like, I didn't know when Jimmy said it, I was like, I didn't read the article at the time. So I was like, I don't know. Not to throw you in a buster. I agree with you. I agree that maybe there is sometimes because I'm not a gay man. I can't see that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because also a lot of it comes from other gay gay men towards Jake. And I think it is like a lot of internalized homophobia. And it's similar with like a Chris Olson.

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think with like gay influencers, a lot of the hate comes from other gays.

[Jimmy]

Jordan first.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's like, why not like, oh, well, that's like, that could be me. Almost like it's like a jealousy kind of thing.

[Jimmy]

Well, I think Jordan Firstman, when they did that thing about the whole heat of rivalry, it was a. I want to say, was a gay guy that wrote about it or something like that. So I could be wrong. But yeah, like, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. And like, again, I didn't see it through that lens. But it is because you're like, why is he getting not to say other people should get the hate? I do think the hate is a little like much. He gets it. I think I would just put out a little thing, be like, that was a bad joke. You know what I mean? That was like, not it. And he says it's so funny and so whatever. I guess he has a podcast. I guess he. I guess they probably already filmed it for Netflix. I guess doesn't do like in real time. Yeah, he just posting because Taylor, Frankie Paul was like just posting normally after the whole news drop. I wonder if he's just like, like at in and out, you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Just like doing his little skits or something.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, that's good if he is. I mean, you know, whatever. Keep it moving.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know I complain a lot, but doesn't this feel like a ridiculous place?

[Jimmy]

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[Trisha Paytas]

One time only offer to place a TV in a hotel room. So, yeah, he's like.

[Jimmy]

And that's probably as he should because at the end of the day, not that serious. If it was me, I'd love to give a little quick apology if I offend anyone, you know, Yachty and I,

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it won't really affect him that much. I mean, he has so many famous friends, he has so many big. Yeah, he can really keep it, keep it moving. And I'm sure his publicist is telling him the same thing. Just keep moving because it will blow over.

[Jimmy]

No one cares. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also I think with the discourse, like influences on the red carpet, like, it can be done. It can be done. Well, it's also like entertainment journalism is like dying. And that's my pet peeve too. Like, even with E.T. they'll be like, why would you even ask this question, girl? Like, why don't you ask serious questions about the movie? And it's like, okay, the problem is y' all aren't clicking. Like, y' all ain't clicking, y' all ain't reposting.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because those questions are asked in like this 8 minute interview about the character, whatever. But no one is posting. Like, no one cares about that. No one is picking that part up. Like, it's the, the more like memeable, like light hearted questions that go viral.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. And they want those viral moments because the light.

[Trisha Paytas]

We gotta keep the lights running because guess what? The budgets keep going down, down. The show's getting canceled, the websites are shutting down. Like, it is so, like, entertainment journalism is so cutthroat right now. And no one, barely anyone's getting paid. Like, people are really struggling for clicks. And I, it's just so. It's hard too. And it's like, I get it too, because now it's like influencers are taking the jobs of people who went to college, who like interned, who worked so hard for the opportunity. And the opportunities keep shrinking and shrinking and shrinking. So it's like the whole ecosystem is like thrown out of whack because it's like, what the hell are we going to do?

[Jimmy]

Well, everyone's going to be influencers now. Like, there's people who have like law degrees and stuff. I think a good example of it is Giraffe Wallow. I think she did go to school for like journalism or broadcasting or something. And so obviously she went and did that. But, like, having that influencer background, like, she kind of started what I know from his TikTok is obviously coming for, like, diabolical men and just, you know, giving men back what they put out, basically, but having that degree. So now her on the red carpet, because you never really see anyone, like, clip her as being, like, bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

She does a lot of them.

[Jimmy]

She does.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was at the Oscars.

[Jimmy]

She was at the Oscars. She's everywhere. And it's. It's like, very good. So I think that's like, a good example of, like, what you're saying is, like, yeah, it sucks. People go to college and whatever, but because times are changing, I feel like. Like, people might just go, like, straight influencing, I guess. Like, college is good. Like, to have that background is good. Like you, for instance, you're like, I don't think you're. I think you're, like, irreplaceable in that sense because you went to college, but then now you are in this influencer era. So it is like this, like, perfect, like, mix. And I think it's like, I don't know, some people just bypassing the college part and just going to influencer because it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And even if you don't go to school, like, I think just, like, studying by just watching all the movies, like, understanding the cultural context of them, I think is really important. Like, the significance, like, not just watching it, but really diving into all them. I think there's a reporter, Kelty Knight, she's at E News. I keep seeing this clip being brought up. Now she's at E News. She worked at et. I worked with her at ETN Insider, but she was talking about, like, influence. She's like, I don't have a problem with them, but, like, you can't, like, if you're gonna work the Oscars, like, you need to have seen every movie. You need to understand that part to understand why it's important. Like, they. You need to understand their work. Like, you can't go in and just make, like, mockery out of it. Like, you. If you go into it, at least show some respect for the craft. That was kind of her argument.

[Jimmy]

I'll give that to Jake Shane. He knew that movie because. Not want to see the movie because I didn't know. But if she said, oh, if. If I had legs, I'd kick you, I'd be like, hell is that movie? And he, like, knew. He.

[Trisha Paytas]

He at least maybe he watched the tr. I don't know.

[Jimmy]

But, like, right. Yeah, I would have Been prepared. If I went to the Oscars, I would have been paired, though. I would have to know that's why that women's. A music thing I can't do because there's no possible way I can go through. Through every Woman's discography from 2026. I don't know any music. So I was like, oh, my God, how am I gonna, like, get the lore? So I, like, guest even, like, freaked me out. Like, because the pressure of having, like, learned someone's lore in like 24 hours is. And then. Yeah. On a red carpet, especially the vanity. I guess obviously they knew the people coming up because they have pre approved questions. But, like, still, it's a lot. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So, yeah, I. I think it's just like, intense. Like, I don't, you know, he didn't kill anybody. Like, you know, they act like he spit and these people's faces, like, choke

[Jimmy]

someone with a necklace. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's just like, it's a little much. But even I see, like plastic surgeons and stuff going on social media. I really do feel like, as someone too, who's like, I don't want to be just an influencer. I want to be a TV show talk show host. Like, it's all dying. It's all dying. Like, nobody is renewing TV show syndication. Everyone's just coming to podcasts. Everyone wants a podcast. Amy Poehler. Like, everybody's just coming to the digital world. So it is this whole past. The influencers are knowing they're here, we're here, and like, that's it. I mean, it's just how it is. And everyone's becoming an influencer. Even Ben Stiller. Did you see him selling Stiller soda?

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't see this. I didn't know that was happening. I did.

[Oscar]

You were showing me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you said, at Groku. Is this real? I think you confused Goku with Grogu,

[Oscar]

who is the Mandalorian.

[Jimmy]

Oh, you said Groku that day. You said. Yeah. You're like, oh, Goku's annoying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But from. What's his name? The Mandalorian, the little baby Yoda. Yeah, yeah, but Grock is the one that is.

[Jimmy]

I think, I think it auto spell checked me, autocorrected me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I changed Gro.

[Jimmy]

I hope so. Maybe. I don't know. I can't remember. I can't confirm or deny. But at Grok, Groku, whoever we like, which everyone's not problematic. No. He was like, it's crazy because I. And I saw another one. My whole thing is pencil right now. But I saw another tweet today that's like, maturing is realizing Ben Stiller was never funny. And, like, look, people are getting a little too hard on him because he came out with a new, like, basically, like, one of those sodas that don't, you know, like, healthy sodas. It's called Stiller Soda. And he did, like, a Shirley Temple flavor and stuff like that. But he. He went to go do promo at Whole Foods, and, like, nobody, like, he's standing there with a Stiller soda, and, like, no one's coming up to him. So someone's, like, recording him from far away. And he's just, like, standing there, like, waiting for people to come up to him. And then he sees someone, the person filming, and he's like, hi. And then the person keeps filming, and he's just like, stiller Soda. Like, but no one's coming up to him. Which is crazy because I'm so millennial. I'm, like, old. I'm like, mid millennial, I guess. But, like, Ben Stiller was like, oh, my God, like, my brother thought he was so funny. Like, Zoolander. Oh, my God. They thought that was, like, the funniest. And it's like, like, wow. It's crazy that, like, yeah, nobody cares anymore. It was like during dodgeball, people would go so wild for Ben Stiller, but even he's trying to get an influencer out. He's trying to get a drink. Everyone has a drink. Ben Stiller's trying to do a drink.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, he has severance.

[Jimmy]

That's what Tana said. She. I love severance. I was like, what does that mean? Like, is he created it? Did he write it? So why.

[Oscar]

It's a show he created, but it's not a funny show. So, I mean, you can still say he's not funny.

[Jimmy]

So why is he making soda if he has a big show?

[Oscar]

I don't know. That part seems a bit odd.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe he's passionate.

[Jimmy]

His reps did say his PR people said that he loves soda and wanted a healthy alternative.

[Oscar]

Sounds like a brand. I mean, maybe it's like he's thinking, like, look at Prime. Look at all those people making a billion dollar company out of nothing, and he wants to get a billion dollar.

[Jimmy]

I want to do a drink that would be. That'd be fun. I'll do a healthy soda, too. I would do sparkling water, like Lacroix. I would want to do, like, a really. Like, back in the day, they had really good sparkling waters. I guess plastic is, like, killing our environment, but it used to be in plastic and it had, like, raspberry. Do you remember those?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It was, like, clear, like. Yes.

[Jimmy]

What was that brand?

[Trisha Paytas]

I forget. My mom used to get them all the time.

[Jimmy]

There was, like, a Dasani version of it, but it wasn't. Dasani was, like, clear.

[Trisha Paytas]

A clear label, but then, like, the color. Like a purpley raspberry.

[Jimmy]

Yes. Or there was, like, a yellow one for the lemon.

[Trisha Paytas]

My mom used to get those all the time.

[Jimmy]

My mom did, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was so funny.

[Jimmy]

Considered, like, healthy. I was telling Moses that's all the water we used to drink. Like, we never drink, like, regular water. We'd only drink, like, sparkling waters. Even when I met Moses, all I had was La Cora. I never once drank water out of a faucet. Filtered water, sparklet water. Nothing like. It's actually. I look back and be like, why was my skin so bad? Besides the meth. It was also, like, I wasn't drinking water. Water.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you.

[Jimmy]

And my dad, too, the other day, he had. He was like. He had, like, a health scare. He's like, oh, my God. I, like, go to the hospital. My dad's, like, in really good shape. Like, walk six miles a day. I was like, what was it? And he's like, oh, they just told me I need to drink more water. And it was, like, true, because he always drinks, like, Coke Zeros. I was like, you guys drink water? Honestly, it kind of changes your life. Oscar always has, like, a gallon with him. I love it. Stay hydrated.

[Trisha Paytas]

A gallon.

[Jimmy]

But that is a. Do you drink all that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I drink, like, two or three a day.

[Jimmy]

I'm surprised, you know. You know, pee more.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do pee a lot.

[Jimmy]

I. Not during the podcast. You never.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think because I'm, like, so locked in that I forget. But if I think about it, like, at the movies, I go like, at the movies. I go like four times during a movie.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Always gets mad at me because I'm also in the recliner or something. It'll be like a quiet. It's like squeaking as I'm, like, getting out.

[Jimmy]

That is annoying. I'd be like, sit down. Hold it till the end.

[Oscar]

Diapers.

[Jimmy]

Hold it.

[Oscar]

That's where you need to

[Trisha Paytas]

try. What is your diaper line called?

[Jimmy]

Oh, de Apples. What you say? Dimpled apples. Dimpled apples is good. That's what my butt looks like. The other day I was looking. Oh, my God. Dimpled apples. That's what it should be. Called that's so cute.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Did you say that?

[Oscar]

That's what I said.

[Jimmy]

What did you say? What is your shirt today? I just noticed that. What is that? I love it.

[Oscar]

Well, it's the transition out of St. Patrick's Day.

[Jimmy]

Oh, you're still in the green.

[Oscar]

You were supposed to green transition into something else House. And I felt like it was. I was doing some gloving this morning, so.

[Jimmy]

Oh, we're doing gloving in here. Earlier I came in and Mal was like I was doing gloves with Abba and I was like, oh, she don't want to leave though. She want to stay. I was like, no, you can't bring. Cuz she like love. She wanted to sit in here the whole time just hearing about Mormon wives. Your rant, your opening rant would just be like her sitting there behind you. She was seated behind you too.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, that is so funny.

[Jimmy]

She wanted so bad to stay in here. Oh, I'm like so sorry, but we got Mormon wives to discuss. Well, I can't wait to see that gloving TikTok. Do you like steak?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't really like red meat that much.

[Oscar]

Or fish. Are you chicken Mostly?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Mostly.

[Jimmy]

I used to only eat chicken. You don't eat red, you don't eat burgers?

[Trisha Paytas]

I eat some like, I prefer like a chicken. I'll occasionally eat a steak or a hamburger, but type like typically chicken or like a turkey burger.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I want to get those big steaks from pavilions. That's why I kind of want like a big, big.

[Oscar]

The Tomahawk.

[Jimmy]

Someone made it for their like 3 year old for breakfast. With eggs on it too. That looks so good. I was like, I want that. Do you think the Michael B. Jordan in and out was sponsored?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of like a thing where people who win go to in and out after. It's like kind of a common thing.

[Oscar]

You don't think it must be a common sponsorship?

[Jimmy]

Like it's maybe Moses convinced it was paid? I don't think it was.

[Oscar]

Well, I mean that's a big thing to do if you're not.

[Jimmy]

But in and out never sponsors. And like you said, it's kind of just like a thing, right? Like it's just a viral moment. Like didn't Hillary Swank do it?

[Trisha Paytas]

And like another guy did it like a year or two ago.

[Jimmy]

I forget who Neil Minam was there. He didn't win anything, but he was there too at the in and out.

[Trisha Paytas]

See? Yeah. I think because it's so close to the. The. Whatever the theater is called.

[Jimmy]

Adobe Theater. Yeah. And it's right down the. Okay. I know. I kind of thought after I win my Iheartradio, maybe I'll go to In N Out and just sit there with my work. But do you think people would care? How did all those people. Do you think all those people knew he's gonna be there or they just happened to, like, be, like, gag that he was there?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think some people wait there in the hopes that, like, celebrities come out from there and then go to that In n Out. Because it is, like, a common thing that happens.

[Jimmy]

I wonder how he got that booth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think an Oscar winner comes in.

[Jimmy]

Oh, they make people get up.

[Oscar]

I would think they definitely talk to somebody there to let them know where they're coming. Because just to boot, security and, you know, block the whole place out.

[Jimmy]

We go in and out once a week, and we sit in there and eat. And it's so hard to get a booth. Like, we have to hover over people to, like, have you go in and eat it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes the line is long. I'll go in and order it.

[Jimmy]

Okay. Yeah. Those boothers only like, four. I never did before. That's why I was like, oh, did you? Because I never met anyone that goes and eat. But we love it now. It's like, it's such a vibe. But you do have to, like, hover over people, otherwise people are going to get it. So you're just, like, kind of waiting for whatever. So I was like, how did he get. Get that spot? That was a pretty good spot. And everyone's, like, taking pictures of him. Kind of fun. But I feel like I'd have to let people know, like, okay, I'm going to be at the In N Out after my award. Come see me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if someone from his team gave them a heads up.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And that's why he was late to the Vanity Fair Oscar party, because he went to In N Out first.

[Jimmy]

I love that Taylor Frank Paul was eating in and out too, in her suv. Did you see that one? She was. Everyone was eating it. So I was like, it's a sponsor. I guess Someone told me, I think Devin told me that they had a truck back in the day at the Oscars or at the Vanity Fair party, maybe in and out truck.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it might have been at the Oscars too. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I think Danny. Danny directo also had it in and out.

[Jimmy]

Danny director at the scene of the crime, too. He Came for Jake. Shane. Not that. Not that easy, is it? Is that what he said?

[Trisha Paytas]

He's not that fun now, is it?

[Jimmy]

Oh, is that even. That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why that I know those. Those people. Because it's also, like, such a long day. Like, I feel for all, like, the actual reporters on the carpet because they have to get there so early. They're literally, like. There's. They have no room. It's so tight. They're getting yelled at constantly. And you just, like, standing there for, like, seven, eight hours waiting. Like, I think they got there, like, at maybe 1pm they left at 1:30am because they had to wait for everyone to come after the show. So I understand why they're a little resentful because.

[Jimmy]

No, I'm too.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're fighting. They're literally throwing up. Michael, please.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kendall, Ken. Like, they are fighting for their life for just one quick bite. And then, you know, Quinn, Britney, and Jake have it a lot easier.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I get why they were a little resentful.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I'm torn on that one, too. I am torn on that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I go back and forth. I just think people are getting a little too carried away with.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. One misstep doesn't equate. But like you said, give a little bit and then, like, influencers are ruining everything. Emma Chamberlain's a good example of a good influence, of a good influencer interview.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was thinking about her a lot lately, too, because she is in the movie called Forbidden Fruits that's coming out in a couple weeks, and she's been doing press kind of for that. And also she's a West Elm collaboration. And also because she was on the Tonight show, and I was like, what is she even promoting? Because she's in. She has a small role in the movie. She is promoting Chamberlain Coffee, having another, like, location promoting West Elm. But I was thinking about her because she is someone who. Who went from like, doing the interviewer stuff to now she's, like, the star. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

That's a hard transition to do. That's pretty impressive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it is. It's wild that she was able to pull that off and become just, like, it girl, kind of like fashion. I think she had, like, really good connections. She.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Derek Blasberg, who's like, a stylist, like, kind of took her under his wing and like, like, gave her all the connects to all the fashion houses. So that's how she got really in with, like, Louis Vuitton and stuff, and then kind of took on from There, but took off from there.

[Jimmy]

But I wish I could be a fashion girly.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should be.

[Jimmy]

Well, I don't think they like fat people. We know from Devil Wears Pride. I saw a clip of, like, the original, and I. We watched the original. I didn't really pay attention. And we saw a clip of, like, someone she called Anne Hathaway. Like, the chubby fat girl or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Crazy. I mean, that's crazy. And I get it's a movie, but, like, I feel like it's also real life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. The Fanning sisters. People were calling them fat at the Vanity Fair party. And I'm like, they are so skinny.

[Jimmy]

Saying, like, this is.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's all getting a little nuts.

[Jimmy]

God, they just want everyone to, like, literally, like, die from not eating. Like, not to be bronchick right over here. But, like, it is crazy how just everyone needs to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's weird because you skinny shame, but then you also fat shame. Skinny people who are just like. And then fat people forget about it. Like, it don't even exist. Like, it's so weird. I don't understand.

[Jimmy]

Sometimes I like not existing to people, but sometimes I wish I could exist to fashion people. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, the pendulum's gonna swing because everyone's gonna be over skinny people again. They're gonna be like, who's still big? Who's still big? Yeah.

[Jimmy]

They cling on as if you're, like, the last, last one. I do feel unique in that way. I'm ready for all my roles where all the fat rolls go. They just stopped writing fat roles because everyone's so skinny. Like, you never see a big actor's skin anything. But

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess. Yeah. Huh. I guess maybe now they put him in fat suits if they need some

[Jimmy]

a little bigger back to sh days. Me and Jack Black.

[Oscar]

That's it.

[Jimmy]

Oh, he's hosting SNL this week. Jack Black and Jack White. Or maybe next week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he has Mario coming out. The Mario movie.

[Jimmy]

What is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

The Super Mario Bro.

[Jimmy]

Oh, what's he in it?

[Trisha Paytas]

He's Bowser.

[Jimmy]

Oh, God, that song is annoying. I love Jack Black. It. That was, like, on repeat in our house. I hate it. It's. It's so annoying. And all the kids love it. I don't like that song.

[Oscar]

I don't know if they love it. I think they love. There's just one part that is preaches.

[Jimmy]

Preaches. I love Jack Black. I can't. I don't like that song.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am very excited for the drama now. I'm Scared that it's going to get spoiled because now people have seen it. Wait, have you seen. Have you read. Because now people have actually seen it because the premiere was last night. They're spoiled, I'm sure now because people have actually seen it.

[Jimmy]

I want to know what the secret was. I think we cut a segment a while ago. I asked everyone here, what's the secret that could ruin your marriage? And everyone's like. And it was like, I think Jimmy was here. I was like, jimmy Oscar Moses? And then I was like, maybe that was weird. Well, because I had just seen the. The trailer and I was like, so gagged. I was like, oh, my God, what would the secret be? That, like, he's like, I don't know if I can marry you now. And I was like, that's so great. I want to know. I'm gonna spoil it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know Jimmy would be pissed.

[Jimmy]

Well, I don't know it, but I am gonna find out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Out.

[Jimmy]

I'm going to find out soon. Is it coming out to this weekend?

[Trisha Paytas]

Two weeks from now? The premiere was just last night. Zendaya kind of gagged me, though, because she wore her dress from the 2015 Oscars. The one where Juliana R6 said her hair smelled like Pachuli.

[Jimmy]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz she. Do you remember that?

[Jimmy]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's.

[Jimmy]

Julian Aranic said that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So Z went to the Oscars in 2015, and she wore like, a Vera Wang dress and she had locks. And it was during Fashion Police. Juliana Rancic, like, the next day was like, they were talking about her dress and Juliana Ransomware. I don't like her hair. It looks like it would smell like patchouli.

[Jimmy]

Why is Variety not ready? A hit piece on Juliet Arantic, a journalist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her career did tank out for that. So that's what I'm like.

[Jimmy]

What do you mean? We're all mad at Jake Shade for saying that, but a journalist who's like the journalist of E News says that and no one is just, like, taking away her degree. Like, that's. That's so insane. There should be never be an argument again. Influencers should not be asking questions on the carpet. What do you mean? Just outwardly racist, offensive. Like stereotyping. What do you mean? That's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, that's crazy. I mean, the outreach is real. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

He was canceled because of her. Oh, my God, that's insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that was part of the downfall of fashion. Please. I forget how much longer.

[Jimmy]

Oh, she was on fashion.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was Fashion release. Yeah. And then the show was kind of disintegrating after that.

[Jimmy]

That was a crazy thing to say.

[Oscar]

Also, somebody's smell is not fashion. Like, that's not even something you're supposed to.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Like, what a weird assume.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And it's like this white silk dress and like, that's cheap thing.

[Oscar]

That's why the side by side picture. Because I saw the side by side picture, I just didn't know what it was about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So she wore that same dress at the drama premiere because the theme of her, like, press tour for this was. Was something old, something new, something about, something blue. So she wore blue at, I think Kimmel. It was. She wore something new at the Oscars, the brown dress. And Law Roach. When she wore that on Oscar Sunday, La Roach posted. It was like, I heard you all wanted something new from me and Z.

[Jimmy]

He's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Laura. And then something borrowed. Was this the dress that she brought from herself? Because she keeps every look that they wear. Her and Law Roach have kept, like, all her. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Like no one else is gonna wear this.

[Trisha Paytas]

She can reference herself, which is so fierce.

[Jimmy]

Ooh, I want to reference it. I wish I could borrow it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should cosplay it. Tea. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

They can sometimes pull pieces from the archive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

Why can't I? I know Taylor Stylus is here. I pulled this Dolce and Gabbana from 1995. I wish I could pull something from, like, Dolce about 1985. Like, that's so insane. Like, I just, like, I wish you could just, like, wear. What was it like? Kim with the Maryland dress. Wear it. That would be me trying to get a Zendaya Kim. Would they be stitching me into it? I'd be ripping it. Be like, what the hell?

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love.

[Jimmy]

She does look great. I do love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I love the theme. I didn't know that was the theme.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And she's really working because she's promote. Like, she promoted Dune earlier that day. Then she had the drama premiere that night. And then the Spider man trailer came out today.

[Jimmy]

So she is no Euphoria. Mentions on the press tours by Variety

[Trisha Paytas]

about Euphoria. And she was like, yeah, like, it was a crazy shoot. I usually. I have like, you know, eight months to a year to film, but I had to film it all, like, in four months. So I'm excited to see how it turns out. Girl, I love that.

[Jimmy]

No enthusiasm for that, but I can't wait to see it. I guess the only tea I have about Zendaya from Euphoria is I Guess I shouldn't say the tea. I do have a little tea, but I guess not tea. She's had a lot of security. I remember being like, I saw a trailer. I saw nobody. Right? I saw nobody. Like, I'm in a trailer and like, don't come out of this trailer. I mean, they didn't say that, but, like, whatever. And then I had to go to hair makeup, and I remember seeing a trailer with like a lot of security. I was like, wow, that's a lot of security. Who's in there? And the driver's like, I can't tell you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, allegedly. But there was a lot. As she should be. As she should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because she is the moment.

[Jimmy]

She is the moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You never know, like, especially me. Like, you just never know a Randall. Just being like, hey, Zendaya girl. Trying to get a clip or something, you know? Yeah, I don't know if it was her, but that.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I just watched the show the OA and she's in it and she has dreadlocks.

[Jimmy]

So that's why Overeaters Anonymous. What's that stand for?

[Oscar]

Just the name of somebody.

[Jimmy]

Oa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait, I didn't know she was in that.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she's one of, like, stand for something. I don't know. The person is kind of an angel. So I think it was really like a sound. Like that. Kind of like a sound.

[Jimmy]

A sound. I was in the Moment song. They love the song. Away Away. We hear the Disney songs all the time.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. 24, 7.

[Jimmy]

Zootopia. Come on, Kong it up.

[Oscar]

I'm trying to learn the Spanish part.

[Jimmy]

I wish I was in Zootopia. I wish I was in that movie.

[Oscar]

I think you should do saying every

[Jimmy]

time those damn pigs come up and sing, Matt was like, mommy.

[Oscar]

But then she says, abba. She says, like, daddy for the male pig. It's like kids today when they say, oh, mom and dad, you know, she's like, mom and dad.

[Jimmy]

I mean, I gotta be the pig

[Oscar]

because that's the star of the show in that moment.

[Jimmy]

She doesn't even like the pig one. Because when Shake it off comes up on the radio, she's like, is this the pig or is this the human one? Because she likes the.

[Trisha Paytas]

The pig version.

[Jimmy]

The Taylor Swift version. No, she doesn't like the pig version.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she likes.

[Jimmy]

She wants the human version. She says, and the pig. Pigs. It's crazy. You seen sing?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I remember I went to upload an episode or something the other day and it was like the. The video that popped up was sing all the songs. And it was like, sing one. Sing to all the songs. And I'm like, damn, they're really wild. It was like 40 minutes or something.

[Jimmy]

I wonder why it comes out. I must be watching on mine because like on our TV it's Moses. But I must have like on my computer or phone or something. Like dogged in or Moses. Sometimes you're logged into just Trish on your phone. Maybe that's why. Yeah, because I don't usually watch. And that's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, oh, here's the thing. Yeah, Exposed.

[Jimmy]

It's pretty good. I think it's Reese Witherspoon who sings Taylor Swift. Because I'm like, it sounds like Taylor Swift. It is. Who?

[Trisha Paytas]

Reese Witherspoon.

[Jimmy]

Yes, it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's the pig. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Why didn't they get Taylor Swift to do it? Because I think Bono is like his own song.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does, I guess. Yeah. They can just hire. But then when did she have to. Bono didn't voice the character, just the song.

[Jimmy]

You guys, all the cameras, shut up. And Moses miss. This the most important tea ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

We can't repeat it.

[Jimmy]

We can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

We don't like to recreate moments.

[Jimmy]

Here was like, shoot. And I was like, what happened? Thought we lost everything.

[Oscar]

Yeah, just.

[Jimmy]

That was. Oh, my God. You're panicked. Panicked me?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, The Hannah Montana 20th Anniversary Special is coming up. And this. There's. Miley's been doing a little bit of press for it, but my favorite thing that has come out, and this is kind of old te, but I kind of live, is the woman who made the wig for the pilot episode talked about how she got fired because Disney didn't. Didn't like it. And everyone is like, girl, thank God you were fired. Which is so funny to me.

[Jimmy]

They're on the side of getting fired.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need you to see the wig that. That she did for Miss Hannah Montana for the pilot episode. Like, they put this 14 year old girl and first of all, that eats.

[Jimmy]

This does not. That eats. That was like Dolly Parton that slays. Obviously got picked up. Obviously everyone's like, this is the smash hit. Like, that looks good to me. It makes it look like. Not Miley. Like, I was like, oh, that's pop star Hannah Montana. People are crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no.

[Jimmy]

What do they want now?

[Trisha Paytas]

We want this.

[Jimmy]

Okay? That's when you get the money. That's season four.

[Trisha Paytas]

More. No, this is episode two. Well, when we fired her, we moved into a different direction.

[Jimmy]

Okay, well, it was a pilot you know what I mean? Like, you get what you get. It's a budget.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, and she did an interview a couple years ago. She did say that this is what they told her. They just said big hair and bangs. So in her defense, they did ask her for something in that direction.

[Jimmy]

She gave them what they asked for.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I would have looked at, I would have like done, you know, the photo test and saw that this 14 year old girl looks maybe 54. Instead.

[Jimmy]

She looks middle aged.

[Trisha Paytas]

She looks Kim Zolciak, Real Housewives of Atlanta.

[Jimmy]

Meanwhile, Jason Earl's 28 next to her. No one's saying anything about him being 50 and married. Like, that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not saying Miley looked old. I'm saying this wig is like an old maiden type of wig. Because the wig is an old maiden type of wig that, like, it feels

[Jimmy]

like a little girl in a wig. When you put my wig on Malibu, she looks like 3 year old in a wig and she looks like a 12 year old in a wig. And that's okay. Like, the people are crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

If I went to the concert, the Hannah Montana concert where I was cheated for her and the Cheetah Girl girls and saw her come out with this wig, I would be like, oh, that's

[Jimmy]

not, that's not true. You'd be like, love camp. Like, when Brittany ever comes out the bad wig, I'm like, oh, we're gonna make it when Kim's hair is hot. Oh, that's a thing. Now we just go with whatever the pop girlies are serving us. And you would have too back then.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think this wind sweat, big hair just was not, not for her.

[Jimmy]

No, I, I think it looked fine. Pilot episode. Everyone gets upgraded in a pilot episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, this is fierce to me. The chunky highlights, the bang.

[Jimmy]

Yes, of course. That, that's so much better. Wait for the glow up. Give us, give us this, the green light on the season and then we'll upgrade. Look at it. Look at the first episode of Just Church. We're in yellow lights, nothing's around. We don't know what's going on. Like, you know, you gotta wait for that budget to come. You gotta get those ads, you gotta get those promos. So people need to relax.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, I love the perspective. Okay, word.

[Jimmy]

Call her Daddy's first ever. Like any first anything. Yeah, first extent. All this stuff, you know, you get it when the money comes. All the Kardashians, pre money, you know what I mean? Before they got the budge, before season two of Keeping up with Kardashians they're looking. They look a little dropped.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, that's a fair point.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Everyone needs to calm down.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she did this interview with Variety, and she did say something I thought could apply to you. She was like, I was promoting The Hannah Montana 20th special before it was even picked up because she learned from Dolly Parton. She's like, if you want something picked up, go promote it like it is. And I was like, that is actually so fierce. I love it.

[Jimmy]

I, I, I'm so that. I am so that. Just Start promoting like you're already doing it. You.

[Trisha Paytas]

You want White Lotus. AJ Masaka star. I have White Lotus. Believed you.

[Jimmy]

That was good. She, like, I called my agent, like, is that. You know what? And they just announced a whole new slew of cast members. You just never know. Wait until I get that call. You see me. I'll be popping up for two weeks summer break. I'll be like, oh, I got to go to France real quick. Okay. Like, never give up hope. Yeah. This. That's what you. You have to do it. You have to just say it. And that's how people see it these days in the world of influencer. You just say something. It's like, oh, get Trisha. You know what I mean? Like, it just happens because she was

[Trisha Paytas]

out there with the blonde, with the blonde hair and the bangs, doing all these red carpets, promoting other stuff. And people were like, oh, it's just Hannah Montana. She's like, can't say.

[Jimmy]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it, I love it.

[Jimmy]

That is. That's the way you gotta do. You should. That's like, the biggest. If you watch the Secret, which is, like, manifesting 101, it's literally like, just say, that's like, it's already happened. Like, oh, thank you for the $8 million in my bank account. You know, just say things as it already happens. I swear, it's so real. I was like, I mean, I've been

[Oscar]

manifesting this sound bar for so long, and it's here.

[Jimmy]

Is it? That light is blocking me. I can't see. Right. That is crazy. That's a crazy sound box. It's just, like, a lot.

[Oscar]

They like it.

[Jimmy]

Who likes it?

[Oscar]

People that see my camera.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Baywatch finally released the cast photo that you were talking about

[Jimmy]

it, and they released it. Yeah. This was not what I saw. This was not what I thought I saw. In my mind, I have to say.

[Trisha Paytas]

The short length is 7 inches down to the knee on the boys. And now that told me Every. Everything I needed to know about this show. That it's. It's for the strays. Yeah. It's not for the girls nor the gays. Because that is why. Why do you have Noah Beck, who, like, is like, everyone thirsts for him. He's known for his bodies in his undies a lot. Like, why are you having him in shorts that go down to his knee on Bay Wash?

[Jimmy]

Like, what, you're a lifeguard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, show a little quad. You know what I mean?

[Jimmy]

Like, even the original Baywatch, they did, like, the David Choka Cheese. He had, like, little ones and stuff like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least a five inch, you know? At least five inch. Yeah, the seven inches. Diabolical Jimmy Wetzel with his, like, two inch. Come on.

[Jimmy]

So good on me. Watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I was thinking. I was like, put Jimmy Wetzel out there.

[Jimmy]

Jimmy post. I know you do the stories, but posted a feed. Post. Read swim trunks with a little whistle around your neck.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

He's also Irish. I should have, like, shouted him out. Did you know that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. You texted yesterday. He's like, trisha just responded to my story and said, are you Irish? Lol.

[Jimmy]

He never said anything about it. He was at a store.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you know he said that? I specifically asked because I was like, why didn't you tell her you were Irish? And he was like, well, I did say when he was interviewed on this

[Oscar]

program, but he said, I think about his family.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And you did ask him if he was Irish. And he did say yes, so. Oh, British, Irish. Mostly Irish, but it's all still Irish.

[Jimmy]

This is the revelation we should have made on the main channel.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wetzel's a very German last name. But my. I feel like you've asked a lot of times for, like, iron People and you never once told me on here on the podcast. You were like, why haven't you said anything about being Irish?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, are you Irish?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, actually, did you know? And he said, he doesn't look Irish. He said he's been sending you Irish cultural things. Songs and food recommendations and entertainment.

[Jimmy]

I thought he just loved St. Patrick's Day. Like, me. I was like, okay, thanks. And then he's like, my family's. I was like, what? Okay. I mean, that was crazy. I was like, what? So, so sorry to not honor. I should have.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I said. I was like, Jimmy, like, you really should milk it. And I was like, yeah, we talk

[Jimmy]

people all the time. How come he has never, like, jumped in with an edit?

[Trisha Paytas]

And I said, oh, hold on. Because he's like, oh yeah. On my mom's side, we're Irish. And I was like, oh. Like let me go in tomorrow and be like, oh. So Jimmy's dead mother was Irish. And I was like, Jimmy, I'm gonna get you those Dior shamrock songs. She's gonna feel so bad for reparations that Jimmy Wetzel's gonna have some Dior shamrock song.

[Jimmy]

They're sold out. They're sold out. Those glasses like are with my life now. Most like they're in your purse. Elvis was trying to get them yesterday when Tana was in here. And I didn't want to be that mom. It's like, don't touch mommy's stuff. But she was trying to get those anyways. Shout out Jimmy, Happy St. Patrick's Day to you. I didn't know we had.

[Oscar]

That's why I kept the decorations up.

[Jimmy]

Huh? Ireland all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, he should have been here teaching us the lore. Cuz he literally said he. They celebrate like his school would celebrate St. Peter Patrick's Day for like three weeks in a row.

[Jimmy]

Oh my God. Cuz they're that he grew up in Ireland. Where'd he grow up? Why are they celebrating in so long?

[Oscar]

What do you do every day?

[Jimmy]

That's a good point. How many days can we learn about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Said all the parents would drink and they would run around wearing green and

[Oscar]

sounds like fake beer.

[Jimmy]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Get drunk.

[Jimmy]

That's crazy. Tanner's assistant's Irish too. Meg. I don't want to assume cuz she's redheaded, but she's like, oh, it's. I'm also. I love IR. I'm Irish or something. She's happy St Patrick's Day to me. And I was like, oh. And then Tana comes in at like 2 o' clock cuz she's makes it happy St. Patrick's Day at 10am 2 o' clock. And Malibu comes in and she, you know, she's like, Happy St. Patrick's Day. And she goes like, It's St. Patrick's Day today. I was like, girl, like it's like the biggest holiday of the year. Did you send me something? Oh, or was it you?

[Trisha Paytas]

The that one video where it's like Happy St. Patrick's Day. We really don't give a. It is not even a real holiday.

[Jimmy]

That was crazy. But also, so what I feel like promoting my non Irish. You know me, I just love to be in a culture if I can. So far the Irish people are not offended. So we'll keep in there for a while until next year. Shamrocks are going into retirement.

[Trisha Paytas]

Raven Simone got a little bit of backlash the other day. I'm interested to get your take, but I know you're not a true blue Disney girl. But basically, she was on a podcast and she got asked about, like, her Mount Rushmore of Disney Channel stars. And she said, I would say me, Hilary Duff, Shia LaBeouf and Lee Thompson Young, who played the famous Jet Jackson. Yes, exactly.

[Jimmy]

He's the famous Chet Jackson. I love that. Did you watch it? Remember when he was on it? Brace Pierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

I only remember it like I remember the theme song and I remember his face, but that's all I remember because I was more nickelodeon until Lizzie McGuire and then I was full true blue Disney.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Jeff Jackson was a little bit before Liz McGuire. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was 1998 to 2001.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so I was like, 10. So you were like three.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was six. Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy]

It's like too young, but yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then say.

[Jimmy]

I would say him, because I knew right away. I was like, oh, I know exactly who that is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because she was. I was a podcast with the Shade Room, and the interview was like, what about Miley Cyrus? Like, she. Because Raven was kind of. Well, Raven was kind of stumped. She was really thinking. She's like Miley Cyrus. She was like, no, not Miley.

[Jimmy]

Oh, before she said everything, I. Okay, yes. Okay. I did see this, actually, and I do get. Now, is it who came first? Is Mount Rushmore the first presence or the most influential president?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the. The most influential. I would say, like, the most. The ones that have had the most impact on the Carry the network.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so then, yeah, probably Miley would be on there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I think, too. I think it may be a generational thing where she's like the. Almost like the founder, Founding fathers, maybe.

[Jimmy]

That's what I was thinking. Like, you're like, oh, who's the og? When I think of OG Mount Rushmore, it's me, Smosh. I, Justine and oh, have you seen Wearing Orange? That's my Mount Rushmore. But if you're talking about impactful, it's gonna be all mad. It's gonna be Mr. Beast and Ryan's Toys and, you know, that Higa. I don't know. I don't know how you pronounce the first part of his name, but it was, you know, there. That's it. Yeah. So it's. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Like, those are the first Disney Channel superstars. But Miley was obviously one of the most impactful Disney channels.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. For me, I would say Raven, Hillary Duff, Miley Cyrus. The fourth is kind of where I get a little stuck because I would

[Jimmy]

say Demi's pretty impactful.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would say 2.

[Jimmy]

Is there anyone more than her? Because I think she's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wouldn't even say. I. I wouldn't say Demi. I wouldn't say. I wouldn't even say Selena, to be honest.

[Jimmy]

She's on Disney Channel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Wizards of Waverly plays. She was also in H. Montana. She's in the Hannah. She has a cameo in the hand Montana 20th special as well. Miley said I would maybe say I think Sweet Life was pretty big because it got two. It got a spin off after. I might have to give it to Zach and Cody to Dylan.

[Jimmy]

And she was like the queen. She was sharp.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ashley Tisdale. Because she did get Sweet Life. She got. Got sharp High School Musical and she got Phoenix. So maybe.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, just the girl. She was Disney's channel.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was Disney down. Maybe Ashley Tisdale. It be. I think it would have to be someone from Sweet Life because it was on.

[Jimmy]

So I, I watched it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Raven had a.

[Oscar]

Like, it had.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where like everyone came for like the crossover specials. Like, that's where Hannah Montana came to that show. That's what Raven had a cameo on. Sweet. Like Sweet Life was the hub. So that would probably be mine. Maybe Ashley Tisdale. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Deb Ryan.

[Trisha Paytas]

She did make history. I would carve a little like special like, you know, a smaller on the side.

[Jimmy]

A little thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's.

[Jimmy]

I just love her memes. I love her interviews. I think she is kind of. Hey, just say, oh, is that the show? I kind of remember. I didn't watch it. It kind of remember it a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's kind of when it was falling off. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

She's the downfall of Disney.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like her. Because that next era she kind of came right after. It was like her then Dove. Cameron was like right after too. A bizard vark.

[Jimmy]

Might have been the nail in the coffin for that one. Wasn't it? Wasn't he getting kind of like problematic and they're like kicked him off the

[Trisha Paytas]

channel and poor Olivia Rodrigo. That was her show.

[Jimmy]

Ms. Harvard. Sounds horrible. All those shows sound terrible. Like after the Hand Montana Cinema.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a dog with a dog with a blog.

[Jimmy]

Horrible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that actually I. Maybe we just give it to Rainey Rodriguez. Maybe we just add her.

[Jimmy]

I know. I. I really want to make my life story with her as a star. That's really the queen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, when I saw the Glad Awards, like, the one celebrity I had FOMO over was Rainy Rodriguez.

[Jimmy]

So iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't seen Rainey Rodriguez. She should have been at the Vanity Fair Oscar. Actually, no, I take it back, because if Jake Sheen interviewed Rainy Rodriguez, I'd be jealous.

[Jimmy]

Like, I would be jealous.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wanted more than one person. I. I would be jealous that. That he interviewed her. Everyone else, like, you can take, but for sure, not Rainy Rodriguez.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I agree. Damn, that she could have been hosting. Where is she? What is she doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I remember she had an interview with Grindr and at the Glad Awards. I forget what she said. I think she just talked about, like, her gay fans, and she was just, like, so sweet and, like, PC and, like, lovely.

[Jimmy]

And I'm like, what she say?

[Trisha Paytas]

She was just, like, so nice. Like, I forget what the answer was, but it was just so, like, I'm just so happ. Love all my fans. I love that they are, you know, recognizing the. The clips. Like, it was just so nice and wholesome for Grindr and that they're adding all these sound effects and, like. And this is. Yep. And Rainey's just. He went, it's so cute. And I'm like, this is fierce.

[Jimmy]

What a crazy question. Because I get asked that question, and Hillary Duff got asked the question. It's like, oh, what do you think? It's like, I love gay people. So I knew what gay was, and I was like that. And someone just asked me that question, like, two days ago for an interview, and I was just like, like, what do you. What. What was your connection to queer culture as a kid? And I was like, I had a gay friend in middle school that wasn't out. Like, I don't know. Like, it's such a. It was such a funny one. And I was thinking immediately of Hillary Duck. As I was. I didn't know what gay was back then, so I just had this friend that was fun. And then, like, later on.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was fun.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just shared clothes.

[Jimmy]

Yes. And he did want to be Dorothy. I did want to be Dorothy. We were the wizard of Ozzy is always Dorothy. As I was a scarecrow. And then, yeah, I remember one day, like, looking him up, like, literally 15 years later, and he just had, like, a men's butt as the Facebook profile picture. And I was like, oh, my God. God, he's gay. You know, but it's such a funny. It's such a hard question. It's like, how. Where does the, you know, love for gays? Start. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. Just happened. It just became a thing. We're all magnetic, drawn to each other. I don't know. It's such a funny one.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just that invisible string, like the diva connection. Like, gays love divas. Divas love gays because the gays love them. So kind of it's like, although I'm

[Jimmy]

giving up on the gays because we're not nominated for best podcast on Grindr, we don't get invited to the.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Jimmy]

I was invited to glaad, actually. I was invited. Yeah. Actually, very much. Like, so many people were asking me, like, will you come? I should have gone. At hindsight, I should have gone. I guess I didn't know what it was. I thought it was just like a little dinner. And I didn't realize it was gay award show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Tea should gone. When GLAD calls, you answer.

[Jimmy]

I know, I know. Next time. What's it stand for? Gays Against.

[Oscar]

What is it against? Against lesbians, gays and dudes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.

[Jimmy]

Oh, there was against.

[Trisha Paytas]

There wasn't again.

[Jimmy]

Is that what it is? The D. I was like, drunk driving. There is one for that. Why are you laughing? Because there is one. What's that one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

I thought also GLAD because there's another

[Jimmy]

one against drunk driving. Mad again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, maybe.

[Jimmy]

I swear it was glad. That's so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, there's dare. What does DARE stand for? Drugs. Are.

[Jimmy]

Are there to say Drugs Against D.

[Trisha Paytas]

Recreation, Drug Abuse. Resistance Education.

[Jimmy]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Work.

[Jimmy]

No idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

They got to get better Acronyms. Yeah. Acronyms.

[Jimmy]

Oa. It is over. Overeaters Anonymous. I know that for Michael, Molly. They would always call it oa, so I wasn't being funny. Well, glad, please. I guess I should have gone to glad. Damn it. I'm so sad. That's why. Where? That's where I up. I should have. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Always next to your.

[Jimmy]

No one told me it was gay. I would have gone then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They should have specified what exactly.

[Jimmy]

I thought it was like. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did you think? Happy people.

[Jimmy]

I don't know. I didn't think anything. You know, you get invited or something. You're like, I. I don't know. Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jules lebron. Have you seen her Tik Toks? Talking about, like, how becoming like a whole meme and, like, in viral sensation kind of triggered her substance. Yeah. She's been making this series on Tik Tok. Talking about how, like, when she got super viral for being demure Mindful how, like, all that fame and attention started her going down, like, a difficult path with, like, substance addiction.

[Jimmy]

Was it the negative or the positive? Like, did she could handle, like, any of it?

[Oscar]

She could afford it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, for the most part. Because she was, like, all of a sudden found herself in, like, all these events and, like, had all these connections, and she was just, like, out so much. It just, like, opened her up to this world, basically.

[Jimmy]

I think that's super valid. And so for, like, real, I think we see that with, like, famous people's kids. I think Miley even talked about in that recent interview. She was just like, yeah, of course. I like, dipped into drugs and alcohol. Like, the. That's like, you're around those people, obviously, like, Rob Reiner's kid. And so, like, you know, just, like, I think. I think it's. I've always been, like, rich and famous people are the ones that are, like, doing obviously, like, whatever, but that's. You know, they're always dying of drugs and stuff. Like, I get it. I get it. And then she's around. It has the resources.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I think it happens so quick, too. I like that she opened up about it, too, because I feel like people assume that, I don't know, you get viral because it was, like, everywhere. Everyone was using it. I think Beyonce was sending her stuff, you know, so. So that, like, you're so rich and everything is, like, great now after that because, again, like, the connotation of, like, being an influencer or whatever, but that kind of success so fast to someone so young.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It can, like, just open. It can trigger you. It can make you go down, like, paths that you never thought for yourself because it is so sudden, so foreign.

[Jimmy]

So I can imagine. Yeah. Like, so quickly. And you are so big. Yeah. When people get those, like, skyrocketing viral, like, moments. Yeah. I can't even imagine where, like, everyone is using your thing and looking to you because she's on Jimmy Kimmel. Wasn't you on with Ru? Like, just everyone's talking about you, and that's a lot.

[Oscar]

And when you're successful, it doesn't take away any pain or trauma you have from the past. A lot of times people think, you know, once I'm successful, I have money, I'll feel better, I'll be happier. And it doesn't change that part. A lot of times it hurts even more.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we see. We've seen Bobby Altoff Breakdown. We've seen Hawk to a girl, obviously, like, there is, like, those viralities, you

[Oscar]

know, she did thank Tana for. Yeah, she said that Tana inspired her to go sober and open up and talk about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so sweet.

[Jimmy]

That's like, so cool. That's cool. Yeah. She inspires a lot of people to do that, which is like an amazing thing. That's good. So she's sober? Jules is sober right now, yeah. Oh, I love that. We were supposed to meet up in Chicago and. Yeah, I know. She just like last minute, couldn't do it or something. Something. I've always loved her. I support her. That's good. At least there's like a happy ending. At least she's like sober and I think it's like a never ending journey for sobriety. But yeah. And also it's good to open up. I think everybody wants fame and stuff right away. It's like sometimes you don't know how to handle it. Sometimes the money. Yeah, like, where's all the money going? People like drugs. You know what I mean? I think about that with some of my money, you're just like, oh, my God. Like, drugs are expensive. You know, you're buying other people drugs and it's like a whole thing and then you just don't show up to work. You stop working. It's like, it's very dangerous.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I. I think too, it helps. It's like almost like a cautionary tale. I think too, for like other. I think of the staples. Baddie. Have you. I think I sent you her tick tocks a while. I love the staples. She works on Staples and she's a doll and she's fierce and she just made tick tocks that work at Staples just about the compass. She's like, if you want to get something printed, they'll come on. Like, she just made these like, hilarious tick tocks at Staples and it. She became super viral and luckily, like, staples, like, is giving her their flowers and like, is. I love that they like send her like special packages. Thank you. Because she got. She is getting so viral that like all of a sudden everyone wants to go to Staples.

[Jimmy]

Did she quit her job?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she's still working on Staples. But now she is getting like, she's got a PF Changs brand deal. And I was like, this is major. I'm so happy for her.

[Jimmy]

That is major. That is huge. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that she's getting all these brand deals now and she's making like club appearances and stuff. And I love it because she just seems so sweet.

[Jimmy]

I love when brands recognize the one who did the Dr. Pepper jingle too. Like there was started on Tick tock and then Dr. Pepper like paid her to use the jingle.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wasn't there. Wasn't there someone. Was it like a donut? Like someone who reacted like had a viral. Like was it Dunkin Donut or something? And then Duncan used it and like didn't pay her. Or maybe it was Krispy Kreme or something. I forgot that.

[Jimmy]

I don't know. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I like when they give them. The companies give them the flowers as they should.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. It's not just free. I mean it is free promotion, but you also pay. Was it the. Remember the cranberry ocean spray guy too? That would be like. Yeah, skateboard drinking the ocean spray. They like put them in a commercial. Yeah, they should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Pay it forward.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And pay it period monetary. I want you to interview the Staples Baddy at some point. But she's in New York.

[Jimmy]

Oh wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

If girl, if you ever make an appearance here in la. Cuz I love her and Oscar's dream. She kind of has my new dream guys too.

[Jimmy]

I haven't seen you yet. You know me, I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because also we talked about just like interviewing people who have like current real work experience. And I should feel like she just has so many tales now.

[Jimmy]

So a question about Staples. Didn't they saw that button? Do you remember? I love that you knew that I loved that button. Did we have it? Here we go.

[Oscar]

Have the shade button.

[Jimmy]

We have the shade. Oh my God. Love that. You remember that button. I love that button.

[Oscar]

I just found the shade button in the garage.

[Jimmy]

In the garage. I found the like smarter than a fifth grader thing in there. Funny. That's so funny. All the stuff in there. Are you looking for it? Do we have it? That was easy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like a custom button.

[Jimmy]

Malibu probably took it. She loves those little buttons. I see them everywhere. Moses did one. He recorded over it and when Malibu pushed it, it's like, Malibu, go to bed. And she always pushes it at night. That is so funny. And she always pushes it. I'm like, all right, time for bed. I do love those buttons. Those are fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I have some hot relationship tea.

[Jimmy]

Your relationship tea?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, someone very viral Punch the monkey has a girlfriend.

[Oscar]

How do we know Real or blow up one.

[Jimmy]

Does she notice now?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Yeah, I. And he is quite young. So how old? I mean, he was just born.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

A few months ago.

[Jimmy]

Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

But there's videos of the two playing and tugging at each other's tails and stuff and wrapping their Arms around each other.

[Jimmy]

I know it's a girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the zoo has confirmed it's a girl and her name is Mo.

[Oscar]

The fame, you know, she saw the fame.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mo and punch Munch is the hashtag. Munch.

[Jimmy]

Munch is a game.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

You know how long do monkeys live? I'm trying to think of like timeline. Is this appropriate or are they like five years and it's like, all right, I guess they have to get going actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

See the life.

[Jimmy]

Don't live that long, I don't think. I feel like everyone's monkeys. Like Michael Jackson monkey passed away, people. He had a whole zoo. He had a whole zoo keeper.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but still there's more chances.

[Trisha Paytas]

They live 20 to 30 years and

[Jimmy]

they already start meeting at one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even think he's one.

[Jimmy]

That's what I'm saying. Like months. He's months old. Is the Aquaman's age, like for months.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, because he was born around the same time. Yeah, July 26th.

[Jimmy]

Right, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he's eight months old, I guess.

[Jimmy]

Is that normal for like animals? I mean, we're animals, but like non human mammals maybe. Oh, I don't like that. Let them be kids. That's weird. All right, well, they're just monkeying around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, oh. Monkeys begin to me around three to eight years of age. So yeah.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so they're just friends. Everyone. Girlfriend is crazy. I hate that. Is kind of my. A little bit of a peppy. I won't say I hate it, but I kind of hate it. Like when people with like a three year old will be like, oh, there, look, it looks like they have a crush. Boyfriend, girlfriend. I'm like, they're three. Like, I hate that. Or with like baby boys. Oh, he's gonna be a heartbreaker. It's like, no, he's gonna be a stand up guy. He's not gonna do any of that. Like, that's crazy. But I noticed that like, she doesn't value the gym classes. They'll be like, oh, I got a little girlfriend. Like, no, there are three weird. Like, I'd hate, hate that so much. It's so weird. Like commenting on kids. So with monkey and. Or Munch as we will call them. Like, they're probably just friends because they're

[Trisha Paytas]

months kids just having friendships with different genders or whatever.

[Jimmy]

Kids and monkeys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tea, everybody.

[Jimmy]

He could be gay. And that's her gay best friend. That's her, that's her high school friend that she didn't know. She's like, he's fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

He just loved playing with my hair and putting and painting my nails. Like what? Yeah.

[Jimmy]

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[Oscar]

As far as love stories, because she influenced you to see the Mormon wives, but you influenced like, there was a clip that came up on my Tik Tok and I wasn't going to watch it, but then I watched it from 90 Day and it's like kind of a masterpiece.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? Who is it? What color?

[Oscar]

The girl with the wigs, Lisa. Like, she gave a speech and I was like. I was inspired. I had goosebumps.

[Jimmy]

Okay, let's hear it.

[Oscar]

Might be a little long, but.

[Jimmy]

Oh, thank you. How long is it? I love how we all sit silent watching this. Like, listen, I'm telling you the truth before we talk to your uncle. I want it all out. That's why I said said I needed another day. I wanted you to know everything. I'm trying to tell you who I am.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jesus Christ.

[Jimmy]

I'm not a lesbian. I'm not straight. I'm not bisexual. I just believe that people should love people. People should love people by their soul. And people should love people for who they are on the inside, not on what is on the outside. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Oh, we love that.

[Oscar]

I mean, I heard that. I was like, wow, this issue. She almost close to identify as water or something. You know, she's like, well, she knows

[Jimmy]

that people should let people not water.

[Oscar]

No. But she's saying nothing. They define the outside. Like, there's nothing other than the soul or the spirit. Like.

[Jimmy]

Oh, got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Contextually, she did lie about being a lesbian in Nigeria. It is like, specifically in their tribe. It's like illegal to be gay. And she lied and said that she only practice. She doesn't practice lesbianism. She's. That's too specified. She said she only did it one time, but she had Four other wives

[Jimmy]

and four other wives.

[Trisha Paytas]

Four ex wives, actually. Still married to a woman.

[Jimmy]

That's the Mormon I want to see. Mormon wives. Four wives is everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she got engaged, still married to a woman. And then so the two episodes prior, she finally admitted that she was. That she is currently married, but in the process of separating and. And didn't tell him that she's married to a woman. Just he assumed it was a man. And then now she's finally admitting she has only been with women. And that's why he's freaking out. And also there's one really good line where he goes. He's doing like the interview with the producer and he was like, I am just soaking for you. I thought white people didn't lie. And I thought that was a funny. Wow.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I was like, I don't think he sees the news. I think that is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know Daniel. If only you knew Daniel.

[Jimmy]

You know, she doesn't identify as lesbian.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was crazy though, because then he like gives. He's like, his hands are shaking and gives the ring back. He says, you are evil from your head to your toes.

[Jimmy]

She does give a little demonic.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is diabolical for sure. But she gives good tv, I'll tell you that much. And at least not on the Taylee, Frankie, Paul level.

[Jimmy]

That's true, right? She's just lying about being a lesbian.

[Oscar]

Yes. She just loves. I mean, she's.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, she just loves it. So are they done with their story? Are they following her back to the

[Trisha Paytas]

US where she goes, well, the next episode we see what happens after that. Because he does get the ring back. But now he's like, well, maybe I can forgive her and we can be together again. What are his motives? I guess we'll find out. Wow.

[Jimmy]

Does he want to come here? Do they want to stay there?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he wants to come to America.

[Jimmy]

I think all of the Nigerian couples, I don't think the one of them have to come over to America. Cuz it's like really hard for them in Nigeria, I think, cuz even Michael and Angela, who were together like for so long, like, he never made it over here. And I was like, poor guy. I was with her for like 10 years or something. I think it's like weirdly hard for them to come over, which is there's

[Oscar]

certain countries that America makes it harder for them because a lot of people come to work here from there.

[Jimmy]

Why don't they just let anyone come work here? I don't understand that. Like, why do we have borders? I feel like, if Michael Jackson was here, this would not happen. Do you remember?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, like we are the world?

[Jimmy]

No. All I can say is that Martin Luther was living. He would not let this be. No, no. Skinhead, Deadhead, Everybody gone mad Situation aggravation, Everybody allegation in the suite on the news. Everybody dog food. All I want to say is that they don't really care about us. Oh, you don't remember? No. What?

[Oscar]

It's a great song.

[Jimmy]

Tell me what has become of my life. I have a wife and two children who love me. I am a victim of police brutal. Well, that's not me, but that was Michael Jackson singing. I better stop. But anyways. Michael. Let me just stop. Michael. It's an empowering song. Watch the Michael Jackson version. Not my first, but it's a good. I remember, I remember when it came out, it was on the History album and I was maybe like nine or something. And I remember just seeing that and it's him in Brazil, just like, ah. He has the little like Oladome shirt on. And I just remember being like. So even not knowing at nine, just feeling like empowered. And I feel like it's still very relevant to this day. And he said it. He's like, Roosevelt was living. He went, and if Michael Jackson was living, this would not be happening. But yeah, we are the world. Because I like, serious, serious, serious. Why do we have borders? Like, what are. What are we keeping out other humans? Like, this is a world. I don't think it's like, who the big bang created, God created. Like, this is a world. It doesn't belong to anybody. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's what's so crazy. I just understand, like, you don't come here. It's even like we go down to like, you know, San Diego. It's like Mexico. It's literally, you just step over. It's just another piece of land over there. Like, you know, vice versa. You just step over. It's the same thing. It takes a human one second to cross a border. It's actually so crazy. Like, I just never understand that. And it's like, oh, don't come over here and work. But why not?

[Oscar]

It's all about who's gonna. Who you're paying your taxes to. The. The people in power fight over it and they want. But we're like cattle. We pay like we're the product. We pay taxes.

[Jimmy]

So tax them.

[Oscar]

Somebody takes that money and. No, but that's where the border is. Where do I stop the people I tax from the people you, you tax.

[Jimmy]

How about tax nobody? Well, that's probably easier. Yeah, tax them, I guess. Tax Jeff Bezos. You know what I mean? Check, check them. Don't text. Just like people working. That's not. I don't understand either. It's like when you get that paycheck, right, and it's like, oh, I made 400 this week. And then it's like all the tax are taken out. It's like, what, who's that going to like, why are you taking that out then? You're not making that money. That's so weird. I just understand it. Like just pay the people what you. If you owe me $10,000, pay me $10,000 dollars, not 5,000.

[Oscar]

The thing is that you keep getting taxed, you know, like, so let's say I know you paid your taxes, now you have your money already taxed, but now you're gonna buy something and there's a tax on the thing you need to buy. And you buy a car. Is there a sex? And you get a license, you pay a fee, and you pay a fee for your license plate. So as it is, you pay a fee everywhere you step. Every time you step spend your money that you already paid taxes for. Yeah, you're getting taxed again. So at the end of the day, you really get left with very little of what you actually make made.

[Jimmy]

It's like those duty free stores at lax. It's like everything should be duty free. Just like, you know, you don't pay tax at those stores. Just don't pay tax anywhere. And you know who, like anyone can just make that happen. Just does not. It doesn't have to exist. Like, so weird. It's so weird to me, Mama.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kudos.

[Jimmy]

And how do they fix the streets? Oh, how are we gonna fix the highways, Trisha? It's like those little toll roads, they just, they give you a ticket in the wheel if you're on those fast lanes. That's how we do it. You know what I mean? Not just taxing money, that it's our money. I just, I like never understand that. Ever so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kudos. Yeah, Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I don't. So weird. Let the Nigerians in. Yeah, you know, they're, they're, they're going to come here to work. You know, they come here to work. Like that's life. Everyone comes to work. You work and then you die. Everyone's just working their life away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah,

[Jimmy]

it's all boycot it

[Oscar]

the borders, boy.

[Jimmy]

I know. I hear I'm playing the lottery and it's like even when the lottery, the billion dollars, it's like, oh no, actually the state gets half of that. The government gets half of that. That should be enough to pay everything. We're all playing the lottery for a billion dollars and you get half of that every couple months. Like that should be enough to cover prisons, everything, Abortion, speeding people, everything. That should be enough to cover all of it. I mean, tax the rich too. I'll pay some taxes, I guess.

[Oscar]

But the problem is not like we should pay taxes, is the question of if we can decide, whoever say it, what they do with the money.

[Jimmy]

How about that?

[Oscar]

We're paying taxes.

[Jimmy]

If you can't decide if you can tax that person, just don't tax them. We're here, we're living. Okay, tax us, I guess.

[Oscar]

No, but I'm saying if I can have a say. Like if you say, okay, use my money not for war, use it to fix education in my state. Not to happen.

[Jimmy]

But I agree. But I just think if people are here, just let them be here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Work.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, there's enough people paying taxes that are living here. Lord knows we pay all our taxes. I'm like, where's all their money? Oh yeah, taxes. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

They're stealing.

[Jimmy]

I mean, well, well, kind of. Well, they are.

[Oscar]

Look, California, the worst. Like people forget that in California they were working on a high speed train for many years and they spent four to five billion dollars on that and it never happened.

[Jimmy]

Where is it Exactly? Where's the 4 to 5 billion homeless people?

[Oscar]

Do you know how much money every year they spend for homeless people in California? Billions of dollars. Zero resistance results. Stealing the money.

[Jimmy]

That is so real. There's like so many homeless people. They probably could build some houses for them.

[Oscar]

But they do take money to fix it, but they don't do it.

[Jimmy]

So what do they do with the money?

[Oscar]

They steal the money. There's people living lavishly with those dollars.

[Jimmy]

Okay, Eat the rich, right? Yeah, Michael Jackson would say that. I'm sure if he had a song, there'd be Eat the Rich song.

[Oscar]

You know, he came up on my TikTok, people were saying like he was ahead of his time and that's why he's not here anymore. And because he was saying, you know, history is a lie the way they teach it and stuff like that. He was saying a lot of things but they suppressed all of it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, he had that Earth song about the world literally being destroyed.

[Oscar]

And aside of that, his criticism of the music industry, like he had a

[Jimmy]

lot of God, that's right. Tommy Motola, he was the first person to go out and be like, he's the devil. Crazy. Well, that's up. You should listen to the History album. Do you not know any songs from it?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Jimmy]

Where were you?

[Oscar]

Michael Jackson.

[Trisha Paytas]

What year. What year is the history?

[Jimmy]

97.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. It was five. Probably listening to Spice Girls, MTV.

[Jimmy]

You're not watching MTV. Michael Jackson.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember watching MTV. The first time I saw MTV was because. Because Kelly Clarkson was going to be at the VMAs. You're not going to like this, actually, because it's. Now it's all coming back to me. I remember my parents put it on for me because Kelly Clarkson was supposed to be on it. And they had just played me the American Idol finale. And I loved Kelly Clarkson and Michael Jackson. I think Britney was presenting something to

[Jimmy]

Michael Jackson Vanguard Award.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I didn't know who that was. And I screamed and started crying because I was scared.

[Jimmy]

Weren't you like 10 when that happened?

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like nine. That was like 2001, right?

[Jimmy]

He's screaming. I guess you were agoraphobic. You hadn't left the house. That is crazy. But okay. I appreciate the honest reaction to it. And they turned it off.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so, yeah. Because I didn't know who that was. And his.

[Jimmy]

I respect your idea. So I'm not gonna be like, did you live under a rock? Maybe. But he was even 2001. That was like, when he played Madison Square Garden. All those stars came out. Whitney Houston and Macaulay Culkin and Britney Spears instantly, like, everyone, Usher, everyone was paying tribute to him. That's so crazy. Okay, well. And he lived right where he lived. He lives in what? Yeah, he has a house in Encino. We looked at there.

[Trisha Paytas]

We like, okay, well, I didn't live right there.

[Jimmy]

Minutes. Like, that's easy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't expect to leave my, like, house like that.

[Jimmy]

You're right. You're right. I respect it. That's crazy, though. What was Guy Clarkson's finale song?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she's saying moment like this, and she had the corals and she had that, like, purple plum kind of jacket with the jeans.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, she looked good.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she was crying and this sparks were flying behind her. Yeah, I remember that. I hadn't watched American Idol. Like, they just put on the finale, I guess because people were talking about it or something. And then again, the gay, like, diva Stan, like, it just clicked immediately. Yeah. This girl's going places.

[Jimmy]

You always know, but you do. Jake Shane Octopus lover and this like, you Always do know. Even Zara Larson you clocked a while ago. I was like, damn, you really knew. You have to talk to Zara Larson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Funny.

[Jimmy]

Amongst other things. Amongst your college degree and not knowing who Michael Jackson is. Being in the 90s is wild. Even early 2000s.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I knew eventually.

[Jimmy]

Well, like even Thriller that was on before me. Like, my parents always played it. Like, my mom never listen to music, but I always are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, my parents only really played like Spanish music.

[Jimmy]

What's your favorite?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a Gloria Estefan or something. They played the ketchup song a lot, actually.

[Jimmy]

Do you ever listen to Juanis?

[Trisha Paytas]

My parents did. I think they also loved Luis Miguel. They played a lot. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I just saw a picture of his son. I didn't know he had a son. Son's so cute. Oh, my gosh. There's a documentary about him out right now. Because I dated him. Right, Carey? I love Louis Miguel. Okay. Some good music will also link. And Dania.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think I knew Selena until the JLO movie.

[Jimmy]

Fair enough. I didn't either. But I don't know if they played Tejano music. Maybe they had a little Selena in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think so. I think Gloria Estefan. I think she's cute. Yeah, my mom played her a lot.

[Jimmy]

I mean, she's queen too. We love her. Okay. Not bad. Evie Queen.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Jimmy]

Evie Queen? No, she's Puerto Rican. But she's. She's like queen too. She's also like literally a queen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So you're thinking we listen to Michael Jackson's a little problematic.

[Jimmy]

Wow. Well, he was. Doesn't matter if you're black or white. He was for everybody. You know what I mean? I don't know if he had Spanish songs. I don't think he did. But he was international. He was just. He was amazing in every way. But we love all them too. All right, well, is that our hot topics or we have a hot one? Was there a hot one? No hot ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I have lingering thoughts about random things, but, like, lingering ring. I just saw a tick tock. I'm so sorry. Honestly, whatever. She comes for me at this point, I don't care. I have bigger fish. By Daily Frankel, Paul, whatever her name is.

[Jimmy]

Oh, she's. Oh, we're bringing this back. I like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I was like, I'm not worried about. Has bigger problems than me.

[Jimmy]

Anyways, back to Taylor.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw a tick tock of Michaela's friend being like, I know you guys hate that. I know who the mystery man is. You want to know who it is so bad. I know you're dying. You're gagging to know that.

[Jimmy]

That's kind of why I followed after that. I did. She followed me. And as I followed back, I was like, follow.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's kind of where my resentment about the. Just having an arm in the. You know, for the hard launch or whatever, I'm like, oh, my God.

[Jimmy]

No, it's definitely Views employee, and everyone's in on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just too much now. It's. We're kind of dragging. At first it was camp, and now we're dragging it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I respect it. I feel like that was so me with the cardboard cutout with the fake ring getting married to Brad Bay. Like, you know, you just gotta. You gotta.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was like, camp, though. Because, like, we knew it was camp. This is kind of like playing it out. Like if you had. If you were teasing, like, a cardboard cutout. Like, the arm of a cardboard cutout, like, doing a little tik tok to it with, like, a song, like, kind of busy. And then it's just like, the cardboard. Bad pit. Cardboard cutout arm. That's funny. That's camp. But having just a random white man's bicep, I'm like, girl, been there, done that. Keep it moving. Show full face. Or keep it moving and keep it out of my face, out of my fyp. I don't need this, that and the third chiming in. You wish you can know.

[Jimmy]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know you're gagging for this Tea mama. You want to know so bad. And I know and you don't.

[Jimmy]

I'd rather see that. I'd rather see that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of course, if I had to choose.

[Jimmy]

But they're the Goofy Goobers. That's what they call themselves. And I love it. Did you see she got that shamed? Alex Earl's club party. That was her, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Jimmy]

No, that was the other Goofy Goober. There's two Goofy Goobers. And I love both of them. I follow both them, by the way. And I love you both. So sorry, I don't know the names. I follow you both, and I love you both. And there are. Yes. And I love it. They hold it down for us curvy girls. Like, I love it. I am one of you. You are one of me. We love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I'd rather hear more of that than trying to, like, make me jealous. I don't know who. Michaela's mystery bicycle.

[Jimmy]

No, I think it was that girl, actually. Now I'm getting It wrong. That other girl, that was too pretty. She's so pretty. Makeup campaign should hire her. That's why one girl. The other girl got fat. Shamed by boys at a club.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they've both been discriminated against for being fat. Yeah, I feel you. And that I love. Keep voicing that. Like, put up the good fight, but I don't. Don't try to sit here and make me envious and jealous of her. Like, you knowing Michaela's tea girl. Like, let's relax.

[Jimmy]

That's what makes it kind of camp, though. I love. Because you know what? Back in the day, like, yeah, curvy girls could also be cheeky and fun. You know, it's like, the Mormon wives can be diabolical. And everyone's like, yes, we love more of this catty. This is, like, fun and playful. And Oscar's like, no, we don't want this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sick of it. I'm so sick of it. I'm like, girl, it's not like, again, there's bigger stuff going on in the world. Like, no one's really dying to know. That bad. We, like, people were just kind of clowning.

[Jimmy]

I'm dying to know. I wish I didn't know. That's why I started following you. Tell me. Tell me the tea. You can. You can trust me. I won't share it on the podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. So that was my one random no. Then my other random note was Jeff, we Wittix being like, no, like, because everyone spill. Sash reported on, like, him saying he can't get Tana back on Jeff fm. And then. Then he made a response saying, this fake news, these lies. And, like, Jeff, you're the one that commented and post, like, what?

[Jimmy]

Also, like, the channel we once knew was gone. Thank God. Do you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because now she's inspiring Joel's LeBron to get sober.

[Jimmy]

She's sober. She's happy in a relationship, a stable relationship. She's low key. She's living her best life in Hawaii. Like. Like, yeah. People who, like, are like, oh, they're. They've changed other people not changing and growing. They're the people stuck. You know what I mean? It's like, no, you're just stuck.

[Trisha Paytas]

We all should be growing and changing. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Every day. Every day changing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And that's why they were trying to release those damn butterflies. And Jordan wouldn't let the butterflies come out of the box.

[Jimmy]

Jordan is.

[Trisha Paytas]

This episode was crazy.

[Jimmy]

I know. I gotta watch it now. I gotta watch that first episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just. Trish but also season four.

[Jimmy]

Oh, this episode, it is crazy. I've had wigs on for three days straight for like 12 hours each. I can't wait to, like, get this off. But, yeah, I feel like the lights are brighter. This light has been in my face, and now I know why. To hide from that. That light so I can't see it. That is so distracting. I don't know how anyone. When you cut to Moses. That's crazy.

[Oscar]

Such a tiny pixel in the frame.

[Jimmy]

Moses hasn't slept either. He's been up since midnight, and he goes to bed at 11, and then he's up at midnight because Aquaman's teeth are coming in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no.

[Jimmy]

He had a little, like, fever. And our little, like, he was a little warm, so Moses went up with him.

[Oscar]

So I'm like you after an Oscar coverage.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just. A little unhinged.

[Jimmy]

I was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's how you saw Lisa because you were up late. That kind of makes sense, actually.

[Jimmy]

That's how I was like, what are we. What are we watching? How do we know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You must have been really sleepy. Like, Lisa's speech, really. It had an impact, right?

[Jimmy]

He's like this. Really. Which, I mean, tea. It was. It was kind of nice. It was kind of. I get with it. It. I did like it. Yeah. Even yesterday during that Liveline, he's bringing out pasta for everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Jimmy]

I was like, damn. I'm also got a brand deal with spaghetti sauce to go check them out. Tik Tok. I was very proud of you. I came down.

[Oscar]

I was, like, waiting for them to approve it.

[Jimmy]

Oh, it's not out yet. Maybe about tomorrow.

[Oscar]

Probably dumb.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to go out and support.

[Jimmy]

Go and support.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like comment, repost, click. Do you have a call to action or anything?

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Jimmy]

Direct link. Direct link.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the click is linking.

[Jimmy]

Tap 1.

[Oscar]

The main thing is that I actually created now a channel for cooking videos.

[Jimmy]

You did what?

[Oscar]

But I haven't posted on it yet.

[Jimmy]

You created a whole new channel?

[Oscar]

Yeah. So I don't know if I should. We'll let you know soon. Once I post a video I've been wanting to cook.

[Jimmy]

I think it was Chef K. I think that's her name. The one that does all the Kardashians. She posted, like, at home. Make. Make your own, like, chicken McDonald's. Chicken nuggets and French fries and look like the McDonald's. I know. Maybe we should do it for Patreon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Because it looks so good. I've been just being like make this for Malibu. Make this for Malibu. But also like make it for Patreon. Me just be like, I want it so bad. It would be so good. And he makes the homemade fries. Is it hard to make those homemade fries though? Because I keep. I always want them but I'm like, is it difficult?

[Oscar]

No. I do want to do the nuggets. I do want to try it because like I've never had crispy like a real chicken nugget. You know what I mean?

[Jimmy]

Well, what is it? Because it's not panko crumbs. What is making it crispy on the outside like that? Because it's like golden. Do we show?

[Oscar]

Well, it looks like there is a. A it. I think it is kind of a.

[Jimmy]

No, let me show Oscar because this is so delicious. It makes me like. Sorry, I'm blocking all the cameras again.

[Oscar]

Sorry I'm bad.

[Jimmy]

Like you're blocking all three. It's not CinemaScope.

[Oscar]

Okay. You just say so in the middle. You're in a crossfire of camera just.

[Jimmy]

If you want to call me fat, call me fat. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those do look like real n, but

[Jimmy]

those don't look like panko crumbs. And Moses always takes the gristle out. That's why I love when he makes chicken dishes. Cuz he makes sure there's no chewy parts in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that Darian's been. He keeps making flans for me and

[Jimmy]

oh, he makes flies.

[Trisha Paytas]

He makes the best lawn ever. It's like half lawn, half cake. It is so good. But the problem is I was so stressed over Mormon wives that I now I'm out eating. I'm out eating my GLP1 because I am so mad that I'm like, I need to eat and then I'm going to eat this flawn and like you just made it yesterday. Half of it's gone. Cuz I was so mad flying watching it was amazing. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Oh, mine sounds delicious. You need to marry him. Honestly, if someone like cooks for you, like marry that person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Enough lawn is good. I'm like, make it for me. Yeah, it's like your kids. It's the bottom of it's like a. A chocolate cake even. I don't even like chocolate, but. And then the top, he cooks it for like an hour. Then it has to like chill for like six hours.

[Jimmy]

Wow. Yeah. You need to marry him. I was gonna marry you again. It's crazy. It really is like having a full time chef. I like go to the grocery store sometimes. I'm like, no, I'm Gonna do it myself. I'm gonna be independent because I don't want to make five different dinners because I was making, like, so many dinners. Like, I want chicken stir fry. I'll make it for myself and then go get the ingredients. Like, just send me the recipe. I was like, okay. And you're like, yeah. I'm like, oh, it's just so nice. And then. So the presentation's so beautiful. And it just. It really is.

[Oscar]

Especially our weekends, because in the weekend, it's like, from breakfast, lunch, and dinner,

[Jimmy]

you are chef in the kitchen in

[Oscar]

the morning, whipping up breakfast for everyone, then lunch, lunch for everyone, then making a dinner.

[Jimmy]

I know before I went to their crunchy made me little noodles. Yeah, you're. You are great. I got to marry you. Got to marry someone that cooks for you for sure. And if you're someone at home who can't find someone, start learning to cook. I. That's my problem. I think. I think cuz I didn't cook for people. They're like, you're not. I don't want to marry you.

[Oscar]

But that's not a problem, cuz had you done that, you would be miserable.

[Jimmy]

That's true. Save for the right one. And I started cooking for you. That's how you started cooking for me, as I started cooking, with my cooking videos. And then you took over.

[Oscar]

Yep. I mean, I think it was more for you, for the people. I want the cooking videos.

[Jimmy]

I think it's cooking for you. Because I wanted to be a wife. I was like, we got this house, and I was like, I need to be a wife and start cooking food. I tried. I cooked you remember? I made those homemade pita balls and homemade hummus. And I got the little blender, and I was doing chickpeas for you.

[Oscar]

That was for you.

[Jimmy]

I don't like hummus, pita balls, or falafel balls. That's what I mean.

[Oscar]

Falafel. I was trying to remember what. Pizza balls.

[Jimmy]

Falafel balls. And I crushed those.

[Oscar]

It was good.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. That's my advice to people. Can't find love. That should be a dating show. Instead of, like, Age of Attraction, it should be, like, dating people based on their cooking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, tea. Like, it's love. Don't see them based off taste.

[Jimmy]

Love is delicious. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love is delicious.

[Jimmy]

Love for some bite.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Jimmy]

Is that. Is that a show?

[Oscar]

Because it's the same thing. You just. There's, like a little door opens and a dish comes in to the person

[Jimmy]

you are posting it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You better get. You're on the phone with Netflix Marrow.

[Jimmy]

That is actually so good and not problematic and so relatable because you know, like that last meal that they do with like celebrities like Killer Duff just did one and all they do is like focus on like the food. It's like my grandma's peach cobbler. And like they show it whatever because people like love it. They said the food TV shows are dead like years ago. But I think we can bring it back with that because. Because I swear to goodness I would marry you again. Because it's just like food alone. You know what I mean? I just like, obviously other things too, but like food alone. I was like, damn, I would have married sight unseen. Didn't even care if we had any money saved. Nothing. I'd be like, no, no, no. Cooking is like such a. You talk. We talked about this last. Did we talk about the. Give the person a fish. Did we talk about it?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Was that last episode?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Like don't give them. Don't give them a fish Stitch.

[Jimmy]

Did we say that on the air or was that afterwards?

[Trisha Paytas]

I did, I think on Patreon.

[Jimmy]

On Patreon.

[Oscar]

Oh. Cause we were eating the donut.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Because think about it, if neither one of us cooked, we're just gonna be eating out. And it's crazy now when we order food, I'm kinda like, like I'll go and get it if it's hot. But like ordering food's crazy. And it's like. And now even like McDonald's is like, I'd rather just. Can you cook it for me? You know what I mean? And you do. It's the weekend. We're going to the beach tomorrow, which is crazy. I haven't been to the beach with the kids ever. Were you beach as a kid?

[Trisha Paytas]

Was I beached. What did you do?

[Jimmy]

I do beach. Did you go to the beach as a kid?

[Trisha Paytas]

Bit during the summer, I guess. Yeah, Here and there.

[Jimmy]

Sounds sandy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think I liked it a little bit. But I was never that hyped because I would chafe again. As we said, salt water and thighs rubbing. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And walking. Cuz you have to walk so far to the car.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And then sand is stuck in all your crevices. Yes.

[Jimmy]

It's going to be a doozy. But we're going to go do it. Yeah, it seems. That seems like a good thing to. To do. So you have a great weekend. You working tomorrow?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, unless you change the law and decree, you know.

[Jimmy]

Oh yeah. No work on Thursdays or Fridays. One day we have A lot to do. We have a lot of work to do in the. In the government. And we'll get there slowly but surely. That's it, guys. Thanks for watching. Don't take anything too serious. See, you know, it's just entertainment. Unless you have a domestic violence charge. Maybe take that one seriously. Other than that, that's it. Who cares? I had fun. I did have fun. I did have a lot of fun today. And that's it. Happy, happy St. Patrick's Day. Happy. Coming up. Easter. What comes before that? Passover. That's it. Probably. There's no Columbus Day or anything. You know, the first three presents. Real quick before I go, I asked it to Tanner yesterday. First three presents.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I have no George Washington. That's it. I have no idea. Jimmy Carter. I know. Abraham Lincoln was like, 15.

[Jimmy]

Stop. Hannah knew the first three presidents and she dropped out at 15. And you went to college. That's crazy. You guys, we were trying to play as 25th grader yesterday. We were playing it a little bit. We should do that in here. Because that's like, she was so smart. I was like, damn, girl. Like, that's crazy. You don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Jimmy]

Do you know? I mean, no. I guess you know U.S. history, but

[Oscar]

that wasn't there there.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, they didn't learn US History. Isn't that crazy? Cuz, like, we were. We learned world history. Did you learn world history as a kid? Yeah, like, we learned world history, but you didn't have U.S. history.

[Oscar]

I think it's only when there's, like, world wars, you learn about that. So you learn about that part.

[Jimmy]

But you know about Civil War.

[Oscar]

But no, we don't. Like, it was. I think in general, the education was very sheltered and cultish, you know, like, very

[Jimmy]

brainwashing.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Okay. Your words. I might.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Jimmy]

I didn't grow up there. Maybe everywhere is like that. Maybe some. A lot of. Some schools can be like that too, because we were also very, like.

[Oscar]

I think it was extreme, though. Like, extreme. Oh, like, did you ever learn about, like, other religions and other.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no.

[Jimmy]

Did you?

[Oscar]

No. That's what I'm saying. Like, it just felt like.

[Jimmy]

Oh, we did. No, we did. I didn't. I know. I didn't know. I know. What truth. I didn't know. Like, Jewish. Like, I didn't know what that was.

[Trisha Paytas]

We didn't. Yeah, we had to go. We had, like, a class where we had to study other religions. And then one of our projects was to, like, go to, like, experience. Like, I think we Went a different religion, like, like, not sure. Like, we went to, like, a Buddhist temple. I remember we had to, like, do a whole, like, ceremony.

[Jimmy]

Oh, that's cool. I wish I would have had that. My spiritual whitening came at 31. I wish I would have had it earlier. Earlier.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We had to, like, pick one and then go to, like, a. Not a mass. I don't know what the word for it is, but you know what I mean?

[Jimmy]

Like, the equivalent ceremony, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

A little service.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. There you go. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we went to a Buddhist temple for my projects. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Cool. I like that a lot, you know, about Christianity.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I was upset that they didn't teach us really enough.

[Jimmy]

Like, so just stopped at Old Testament, like, that's it. End of. End of the book.

[Oscar]

Pretty much.

[Jimmy]

That's crazy, huh? It really just depends on where you grew up, how they. What you're conditioned to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

T Probably like, why Taylor Frank falls away. She has her mom. Did you get to the episode where her mom's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw it in the trailer for this season.

[Jimmy]

She's like, yeah, I should probably put you up for adoption. It's like, girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Jimmy]

How do you say that to your daughter who's, like, 31? That's insane. But anyways, enough of that, you guys. As raising cane says, one love. They have that everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

Michael Jackson once said, are the world,

[Jimmy]

we are the children. Starting with the man in the mirror. Make the world a better place. Okay. We love you guys. Can you name one Michael Jackson song besides the ones I said? Oscar.

[Trisha Paytas]

A, b, c. Jackson 5.

[Jimmy]

Okay, that's good. Not a michael jackson, though. Okay. Okay. Do you know that? How? Because Rihanna said, no, not the same. All right, I'll give it to you, Moses. Favorite Michael Jackson song. Jimmy cuts it.

[Oscar]

He's, like, sober.

[Jimmy]

Oh, I think that's the one he just sang Tiding over. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thriller era.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I love Thriller. The album as a whole. I love all of his songs. I really grew up with his songs and music.

[Jimmy]

I think I love it.

[Oscar]

I have a hot take. I actually think he is a real saint, Like a real life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my God. We're quite extreme now with it. I was a little nervous to say I like Michael Jackson. This is. You give him a saint award. Well, that's where we maybe should end up for today. Maybe we do an extens. Ended. Love that. What a way to end it.

[Oscar]

That's how we would like it.

[Jimmy]

Thank you guys for watching Jimmy cut it whenever. Love you.