Jeffree Star Calls Out Beast Games Contestant + Did Sabrina Carpenter Go TOO FAR?

Summary

Just Trish Podcast — Episode Summary

Episode Date: February 5, 2026
Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-Host: Oscar Gracey
Guests/Contributors: Jimmy (editor), Moses (technician), others
Theme: Hilariously Unfiltered Pop Culture & Internet Drama Commentary

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Overview

This episode of "Just Trish" is quintessential Trisha Paytas: spirited, irreverent, and deeply plugged into the social currents of pop culture and internet drama. Trisha, Oscar, and crew dissect issues from queer representation and body image to celebrity gossip, viral TikToks, and social media etiquette. They intersperse their takes with personal stories, sharp wit, and the show’s signature meme-able banter. Hot topics include the Troye Sivan "twink death" TikTok drama, the Charli XCX/SmartLess controversy, Sabrina Carpenter’s “dove at the Grammys” backlash, Kendal Jenner’s social media skirmish, and openly gay dating app trends.

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Major Topics & Discussions

1. No H8, Black History Month & Giving Back

(04:09 – 07:08, 146:36 – 146:55)

• Trisha and crew re-create the classic No H8 photo campaign, discussing its origins around Proposition 8 and the unexpected need to revive its message in 2026.
• Proceeds from the "No H8" headshot tier on Patreon are being donated to the National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC), supporting Black LGBTQ+ rights.
• Conversation about the props used in their shoot (Emmys, Pepto Bismol, Birkin, a vintage gay magazine).
• Trisha: "Maybe No H8 will come back around. They should. I guess we kind of need it again." (06:51)

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2. Troye Sivan, “Twink Death”, and TikTok Plastic Surgery Drama

(13:21 – 24:20)

• Recap of a TikTok dermatologist’s public video hyper-analyzing Troye Sivan’s looks, diagnosing him with "twink death," and suggesting cosmetic procedures.
• Troye’s vulnerable response on Substack about body image and public scrutiny.
• Notable Quote:
  Oscar: "Giving someone unprompted advice on what things they could do to look hotter is just kind of like a no-go." (26:15)
• The group agrees unsolicited cosmetic advice fosters insecurity and commodifies natural aging.
• Troye and the doctor privately resolved the issue, with the doctor issuing an apology.

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3. Pop Music Apologies & Celebrity Gossip

(28:47 – 29:54; 37:09 – 49:56)

• Discusses the latest apology cycle (Reneé Rapp, Rachel Zegler) and the internet’s appetite for “fake” apologies.
• Oscar recaps the drama between Charli XCX and Jason Bateman on the SmartLess podcast, where Bateman awkwardly asks Charli if she’ll want kids “when she finds the right man.”
  Memorable Quotes:
  • Trisha: "That’s the craziest thing to say to someone. Like, maybe if you meet the right person. No, I don’t want kids." (51:28)
  • Oscar: "I think in the world now, we just know not to ask people: 'When are you having kids?' To anyone." (50:05)
• Applauding Charli’s candidness, they criticize lazy podcast hosting and highlight the importance of researching guests.

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4. Queer Representation & Reality of Dating Apps

(127:02 – 130:27)

• Grindr launches an AI-powered subscription tier for $6,000/year to 'optimize' matches, which the panel finds outrageous.
• The trio swaps stories about Grindr, Scruff, and other apps, reflecting on body types, catfishing, and the evolution of gay dating culture.
• Quote:
  Oscar: "If you need $6,000 to have sex, you’re doing it wrong..." (128:04)
• Playful lament that none of them have ever been used as a catfish photo.

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5. Spoiler Culture & Relationship Secrets

(29:26 – 37:02)

• Trailer talk: Zendaya and Robert Pattinson’s new film, wild internet speculation, and the ethics of spoilers.
  Trisha: "What would be your big secret that you wouldn’t want your significant other to know? That it could end the marriage, could end the engagement, could end the relationship. Go." (32:24)
• Panel share light and harmless secrets about collectibles, childhood pranks, and relationship dynamics.

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6. Living Alone & Modern Relationships

(74:28 – 78:02)

• Discussion about Keke Palmer’s assertion that she doesn’t want to live with a romantic partner even if married. Panel weighs in on old-school marriages, sleeping separately, and the value of personal space.
• Jimmy: "Both of my grandparents did that... they slept in separate rooms because one of them snored..." (74:29)

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7. Sabrina Carpenter and the Great Dove Debate

(82:37 – 87:17)

• PETA critiques Sabrina for using a dove in her Grammys performance after bird poops on her backstage.
  Oscar: "Although it’s hard to take PETA seriously... they love a stunt shenanigan." (85:13)
• Bird’s handler responds publicly, clarifying the animal is well cared for and has “attended” birthday parties.
• The panel compares animal acts to child performers and highlights context.

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8. Catfishing & Scam Stories

(103:53 – 115:49)

• The saga of the Ronnie Radke/Brittany Furlan catfish is recapped—revealed to be a woman in Thailand, leading to speculation about why people do this.
• The crew swap scam stories: fake casting offers, celebrities supposedly DM-ing for money, and lessons for viewers (e.g., always check email domains and never send money).

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9. Social Media Etiquette: Close Friends, Twitter Circles, and Oversharing

(116:01 – 120:19)

• Instagram to add the option to remove yourself from “close friends”—panel discusses what people actually post, differences in content between regular, close friends, and (for gay men), who gets the “green circle.”
• Oscar: "If you’re a gay guy and you see that green circle, there’s a 50/50 chance it’s either pole or hole." (116:13)
• On Twitter, Jimmy admits he posts stream-of-consciousness updates, sometimes oversharing personally.

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10. Hot Gossip: From Netflix Stars to Beast Games Scandals

(137:44 – 146:33)

• Recap of Mr. Beast’s Beast Games drama: A contestant, Jim, previously made TikToks with Jeffree Star; after a viral TikTok exposes their “friendship,” Jeffree claims, “sleeping together over 25 times is what friends do? I’m bored.”
  Oscar: "A lot of the straight bros watching… making emasculating jokes… because his girl in the show is the one that’s doing a lot of the heavy lifting." (140:06)
• The group discusses the public “outing,” biphobia, and the challenges of sexuality speculation for public figures.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On unsolicited cosmetic advice:
  Oscar: "Giving someone unprompted advice on what things they could do to look hotter is just kind of like a no-go." (26:15)
• On being asked about having kids:
  Trisha: "That’s the craziest thing to say to someone. Like, maybe if you meet the right person. No, I don’t want kids." (51:28)
• On LGBTQ+ body standards:
  Oscar (about Troye Sivan): "You’re always a twink in my heart." (23:27)
• On expensive dating-app subscriptions:
  Oscar: "If you need $6,000 to have sex, you’re doing it wrong..." (128:04)
• On being added to someone’s close friends:
  Oscar: "If you’re a gay guy and you see that green circle, there’s a 50/50 chance it’s either pole or hole." (116:13)
• On support for queer controversies:
  Jimmy: "Gay people can be annoying, but the minute a straight person is going after them, suddenly I’m ride or die." (146:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• No H8 Campaign, NBJC, and Headshot Proceeds: 04:09 – 07:08
• Troye Sivan TikTok/Body Image Discussion: 13:21 – 24:20
• Proposition 8 & Celebrity Apologies: 12:08 – 14:47, 28:47 – 29:54
• Charli XCX on SmartLess – The Kids Question: 46:51 – 53:15
• Spoiler Culture & Movie Secrets: 29:26 – 37:02
• Relationship Secrets Roundtable: 32:24 – 37:09
• Keke Palmer & Nontraditional Marriages: 74:28 – 78:02
• Sabrina Carpenter, Doves, and PETA: 82:37 – 87:17
• Ronnie Radke/Brittany Furlan Catfish: 103:56 – 107:37
• Catfishing, Scams, and Cautionary Tales: 109:05 – 115:49
• Close Friends/Green Circle Culture: 116:01 – 120:19
• Mr. Beast/Jeffree Star Scandal: 137:44 – 146:33
• End-of-show Campaign Plugs & Shoutouts: 146:36 – end

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Final Thoughts

This episode showcases "Just Trish" at its best: quick-witted, current, deeply online, and balancing humor with genuine insight. Listeners get the inside scoop on internet controversies, a generous dose of LGBTQ+ perspective, social media culture commentary, and classic Trisha chaos. For anyone invested in pop culture or simply looking for sharp, entertaining banter from queer and allied voices, this episode delivers.

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Want More?

• Full episodes: Just Trish Podcast on YouTube
• Support their causes: Proceeds from the No H8 headshot tier in Feb 2026 go to NBJC.
• Follow the crew on social: Trisha, Oscar, Jimmy, Moses, and more.

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Transcript

[A]

Don't want to know your stance. Don't care. I don't care about a man's opinion about anything, especially not a body. And asking me about if I want kids. If somebody even now was like, if a guy asked me, do you want kids? I'd be like, ew, is this like homophobic? Or is this almost like him trying to help him?

[B]

It seems like gay on gay hate crime.

[A]

Oh, he's gay. The doctor, maybe. Allegedly.

[B]

I mean, I could play the video so we can substitute.

[C]

Let's ask the audience. Let's ask Moses.

[A]

Actually, no, it's not. Her name is trish. Hello and welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. We have the fork crew in tow today for a very special episode. We have, as always, Oscar. Oh, yeah. Silenced. Why were we silenced on the. No hate. Oh, the ears too. Just no, don't speak on Proposition 8.

[C]

Stop me impersonating you. I am no longer gay.

[B]

Don't be gay.

[A]

Don't be gay.

[B]

Don't talk gay.

[A]

It's a very gay episode because we also have Jimmy, our editor, here in the short shorts.

[C]

Hel.

[A]

What do we call this when it's like, really cut low? Like, I like it.

[B]

Is it style sweat a lot.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

I think it's like muscle. Muscle fit.

[A]

Yeah, Muscle tee. And speaking of muscles, we have our Moses, our technician. Our it. Right. I'm trying to give our producer, Oscar editor, Jimmy.

[D]

I charge her phone.

[A]

Technician.

[D]

And I have some tools here.

[A]

You know, you did four cameras today. That's impressive.

[B]

Yeah, five. Oh, yeah, five.

[A]

Oh, you have one on you.

[D]

Five. Cuz you guys have three Oscar, me and a few Hayden cameras.

[A]

Oh, is there. Did you really?

[B]

We should have like a really scary, like, security camera footage for like in the corner.

[A]

Moses always wanted that. He always wanted, like a wide shot, like for the whole room. I'm like, I don't know if anybody needs to see the setup we have.

[D]

In here, but you wanted that.

[A]

No, I didn't. Someone remember this, Oscar. Someone rather remember. Don't you remember him wanting, like. Oh, yeah.

[C]

No, you know, you're right. Like, yes, you wanted it. She didn't want.

[B]

I know you really like the.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I was like, no following into the room.

[D]

Yeah, I want that. I still want that. I still want Trisha walking into the room.

[C]

No, I do.

[D]

The sound of clapping early on, he's.

[A]

Like, he wanted one of the whole room.

[C]

And you were like, yeah. You were like, why would they want to see the back half of this?

[A]

Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

[D]

Because I always argued we don't need another whole track. Just for that one time that we.

[A]

Show this angle, we gotta rewind these 20, 23 ones. Because I swear you always did Oscar. You remember?

[C]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was.

[A]

You would clock me if it wasn't.

[B]

You guys filmed you entering for, like, the. The 19 years on YouTube. And then the next episode, you filmed Oscar coming in and you were like, I want to do this every episode. And I was just like, oh, gosh.

[D]

Oh, is it extra?

[A]

Is it a lot more?

[B]

It's not a lot, but it is like an extra, like 10 or 15 minutes. And time is very precious with the turnaround.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I was just like, okay, well.

[A]

You do have, like, about 12 hours.

[B]

Of check, so I will do it.

[A]

See, I saved you. No, but, like, it just makes sense because the only person applauding me would be Oscar every time. Like, that's so awkward.

[B]

I add in applause. I add in.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

But that's what I'm saying. All of it.

[D]

That's how you manifest a talk show.

[A]

That feels weird.

[D]

Make it look like one.

[B]

Okay, but like a residency. See, like once a month in Thousand Oaks show, like, that could be kind of fierce.

[A]

Live. Live here in person. Okay. We'll get, like, a camera switcher live before we get into.

[B]

I could do that.

[A]

You can do camera switching.

[B]

I'll figure it out.

[A]

Okay. Gotta get the budge. We have a budget for it now. You guys, thank you so much for being here. Real quick. I've met a lot of places in May. Okay, May 5, you can see me at the Wiltern. Netflix is a joke festival at 9:45pm Then May 9th, it's just announced I'll be at the Fantasy Springs Casino in Palm Springs, California. It's gonna be really exciting. And you can still vote for me. Favorite Broadway debut at the iHeartRadio Awards. And it is Black History Month. And no Hate. Okay, today we did no Hate campaign. And the original hate campaign was to benefit. I guess it wasn't a benefit. I guess it was to raise awareness on Proposition 8. Which we know we might have to bring that back. But we looked to see if there was a foundation to donate on behalf of no Hate. But Jimmy had told me that the website.

[B]

Yeah, the website. It's kind of fierce that it still looks like it's from 2009 or whatever. But I wasn't entirely sure if they are still, like, actively doing work. Sorry. No Hate if you are.

[A]

Well, we would love to know.

[B]

Yeah, we would love to know, well.

[A]

Donate if you are. We just didn't know there was a donate button there, so. But we might have to bring it back because, like, literally this morning Tony's like, we're trying to like, ban gay marriage again. And I'm like, whaaaat? That's weird. Anyways, so we took pictures today and we're gonna put them as part of the headshot tier on Patreon. All the money collected from the headshot tier this month on Patreon will be donated to the nbjc, which is the National Black Justice Coalition, which is a civil rights organization, Black LGBTQ plus, and same gender loving couples, which is really, it's really cool. They do a lot. They do a lot of work for the community. They work with Congress on all levels, working on getting grants helping Black LGBTQ plus know how to access those grants. They also do a lot with, like, medical aid for the HIV AIDS epidemic. And they also are working on instituting a democratic level to protect and prevent the murder of black trans women and also just finding justice for them. They do a lot, a lot of great work. Check them out. And we will be donating, like I said, all of the proceeds from our no Hate photos will be in the headshot tier this month. And we'll also be donating $5,000 just on behalf of the Gestures podcast and in honor of Black History Month. And if you want to donate, we'll leave the links below. And if you want to get to these photos of our no Hate today, you can go to patreon.com GestureShould also have my signed headshot on there. And all of those proceeds this month will be donated to the nbjc. So thank you guys so much for all the help and also making the podcast successful, Patreon successful. And we can keep donating to more good causes and maybe no Hate will come back around. They should. I guess we kind of need it again. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Because I think it's just. It is crazy because we always love those photo shoots. Their fears. Shout out Rob Anderson. He. He re sparked my interest in this on Tick Tock. He was like critiquing all these and how they all have like a little prop. He goes, basically what it was was like, you know, like, we. Homophobia is bad, but also like personal branding because it was like Kathy Griffin with her Emmys and like, like Sue Sylvester had a stopwatch. I think, like, I do think it's kind of. So we all had our little items. I had my Birkin, you Had your.

[B]

Oh, I had.

[A]

I don't know if we can show it. We might have to blur it.

[B]

Yeah, maybe I won't.

[A]

Oh, yeah, let me not edit the blur.

[B]

I brought a smutty magazine. Yeah, I brought a smutty gay magazine featuring a gay adult film actor that I used to love watching when I was closeted.

[A]

Really? Do you want to give him a shout out?

[B]

Shout out. Zeb Atlas.

[A]

That's a name. That's a great name.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Zeb Atlas.

[B]

I loved watching your. Your videos. VHS scan to YouTube. Cropped for YouTube.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was too afraid to go to.

[A]

Like, Pornhub, but, like, YouTube was showing it.

[B]

It was cropped. So is it. They just showed the kissing.

[A]

Okay. At least they didn't censor that. Yeah. Sometimes they blur in certain. They did. They're like, let's show two men to say. Great. I love that. Yeah. Okay, well, shout out, Zeb.

[B]

Yeah, you are.

[A]

Shout out. Did you ever try to find him on social media?

[B]

No.

[A]

No.

[B]

King of improv.

[A]

No, we love a no. No. And nothing else. And Oscar had his. His Emmys, which was really impressive. Photographer was gagged. She's like, wait, you actually have this Emmy?

[C]

The dichotomy. Yes. Other than I see a Pepto Bismol in your bag over there. I feel like you could use that as your apology. Yes, that has been a good product.

[B]

That is actually very gay coded and nice.

[A]

The Pepto Bismol. You tell them why? Because I'm like, is this your prop? You're like, no.

[B]

Okay, so. Oh, man. So as some of you listeners may note, Trisha Paytas does not like farts.

[A]

And saying it is crazy.

[C]

I know. That really gagged me, actually.

[A]

Yeah, I was like.

[B]

I actually am actually, like, really chill and zen today, I think, because I've done this a few times. But I know whenever I'm like, like, I get very antsy before we film the podcast because I'm like, I just want to make sure, like, I say the right things and, like, get my. My thoughts out correctly. And, like, I'm funny. I'm present and I. Whenever I get anxious, I get a.

[A]

Little bit.

[B]

Nervous in my bowels and.

[A]

A fart comes out. I don't. Well, you talking about it's crazy, but, like, usually it's going number two or something in the bathroom, but you're just farting it.

[B]

But I'm like, well, and also, like, I've been on a protein kick lately. I've been really trying to have my fiber every day. I've Been yogurt and granola and oatmeal. So, you know, call me Susie the way I'm tootin'. So I had Pepto before I came today, and I brought it just in case I needed another hit.

[A]

Should we put it here for display?

[B]

Pepto Bismol? Honestly, my boyfriend has diverticulitis, which.

[A]

What is that?

[B]

He can't have seeds because they get stuck in his. His intestines.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Cause really bad pain.

[C]

Geez.

[B]

So we are big Pepto consumers in our household.

[A]

This should be the sponsor of the podcast because it's pink and it's anti fart. Yeah.

[B]

A stomach diarrhea, indigestion, heartburn, nausea.

[A]

Remember the song? Oh, nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Yay. Pepto Bismol.

[B]

There was one night, I feel like there was one on an airplane that, like, they, like, really turned. Oh, they did that one Addict song. That was the one I knew.

[A]

It's also featured in Pink Christmas. I said pink baguettes.

[B]

I love that one.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I need to get on this kick, maybe. It looks beautiful. I feel like Pepto Bismol.

[B]

That's how you know it's serious.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Like an ultra tampon. It's just so big and consuming no blood is getting past there.

[B]

I'm on an instacart family plan with my friends, so we can, like, save on free delivery and stuff and. But you can, like, see what your, like, other family members are ordering. So my friend always looks at what I'm getting, and he saw the other day, I bought Pepto Bismol, like, rubber gloves for washing dishes and olive oil. And he was like, what the hell?

[A]

Yeah. It sounds like you could either be, like, killing someone or gay sex or something like that. I don't know. Olive oil sounds better than, like, a lube. You know what I mean? Like, it does sound like a thing.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know if I recommend olive oil. Yeah, I feel like it needs to be like, a water based.

[A]

Oh, you know, something tastes better if it's olive oil. You cook chicken in it.

[B]

That's true. It probably tastes good as hell.

[A]

I want a protein kick too. I had 39 grams of protein this morning with my Matcha from Starbucks. Is 39 grams of protein. That's pretty good. I actually kind of. I kind of like a matcha. I feel just so healthier. I feel strong. Anyways, how's everyone else doing? Real good.

[B]

I'm good.

[A]

Do you have a Hot Topic with you today?

[B]

Yeah, I do, actually. I have one. So this is gonna be a great show for you guys.

[A]

It's better than my nun. I'm usually like, what we got, everybody.

[B]

Okay, so this one. And it is a sinceresolved topic, so no hate to those involved.

[A]

Love that. What if no hate tries to sue us? Like, actually. But we're doing it for a good cause. We'll donate to you too. No hate Proposition 8.

[B]

Yeah, let us know.

[A]

What is Proposition 8 this year? Do we know? Like, it's probably the wrong thing.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

We're like no. 8. And why were they silenced, though? Why were they wearing tape over their mouth?

[C]

Now that is a good question, right?

[A]

Yeah, like, we're not going to be silenced, but we are.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You will not silence us. We'll silence ourselves. Reclaiming the power.

[A]

It was weird. I don't know, but.

[B]

Well, we took the photos, so they're gonna go.

[A]

The photos are good. The photos were lit for sure.

[B]

Okay, so shout out Troye Sivan, please. Come on this podcast. We love you so much.

[A]

We do love you so much.

[B]

So this is a bit of a lukewarm now tea. The tea has been. Has been.

[C]

Well, you gotta sell it, Jimmy. You gotta say this is the hottest thing.

[D]

Everyone are talking about it before you came in. We're all talking about it.

[B]

Everyone is gagging over this hot, spicy tea.

[C]

Everyone with pronouns, slay, slam is gagging for the drama boots, honey. This tea, piping hot, might get the third degree burn. Troye Sivan, we got your back now, Jimmy. Take it away.

[B]

All right, so Troye Sivan was recently, in my opinion, low key. Maybe harassed is the wrong term, but I just feel un. Got some unsolicited medical advice from a TikTok plastic surgeon, which I have thoughts on that for after this little brief here. So dermatologist named Dr. Zain Khalid Majeed made a video about Troye Sivan after a recent red carpet interview appearance. Basically hyper analyzing his facial features, talking about how he's experiencing twink death, and recommending several procedures that he should get to restore his twink.

[A]

What is this, like homophobic? Or is this almost like him trying to help him?

[B]

It seems like gay on gay hate crime.

[A]

Oh, he's gay. The doctor, maybe. Allegedly.

[B]

I mean, I could play the video so we can suss it up.

[C]

Let's ask the audience. Let's ask Moses.

[A]

Actually, no, it's not.

[B]

Excuse me, Moses, let us know.

[A]

We don't know, but maybe. Question.

[B]

We don't know, but all I'll say is oh my God, I have a PhD. PhD in homonomics.

[A]

Really? I'm bad at it. I would fail if you. I would. I didn't have no choice if I was gay until he just told me. Now I was like, wait, what?

[B]

Well that's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I just thought he was beautiful.

[B]

So anyway, so Troye Sivan saw this video and made a statement, a whole article actually on his sub stack and I'll read a a tidbit here. The article was originally called this guy and now it has been since titled.

[C]

Sounds like a Trisha Paytas title.

[A]

What was the title of what a Tick Tock or the article?

[B]

His article was titled Article this guy.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

And it has now been changed to feeling a bit uggo in parentheses ugly.

[A]

Wait, this guy turn into Feeling Ugly?

[D]

Yes, he's going through this step.

[B]

He restrained himself a little bit after an apology was issued. But prior to this, Troy's initial thoughts were. I oscillate constantly between feeling like I'm aging in a good way, getting sexier with time, and then feeling like Gollum's very close pop singing relative, so decrepit. Somehow both skinny and fat at the same time. I'm 30. I've struggled with my body image for a lot of my life, as I'm sure most people have. I'm historically famously skinny and I'm not that skinny anymore. I'm historically historically famously Twinkie. I am still the Google search result image for Twink and I'm not that twinkie anymore. Oy vey. And then he talked about his two responses to this and how he wants to sort of like not care about this stuff. But then he's also like, well these are some treatments I was considering. What do you guys think? Blah blah blah.

[A]

Troy said this in an article?

[B]

Yeah, he wrote it. He wrote a whole article, all his own thoughts to his sub stack about it.

[A]

What substack?

[B]

I think it's just like a. Almost like a live journal type like.

[A]

Nowadays and this year 2026.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's like people are really switching to like blogging and long form essays instead of like tweeting and stuff like that, which I think is pretty cool. Love that a lot of people use it for like rest the of. I know that the doctor then I guess reached out to Troy privately and they hashed it out and apologized and they made a statement on TikTok saying it made me reflect on the impact of my content. I now have the responsibility to educate, but not at the expense of an individual it is important to demystify procedures that celebrities have and allow patients to be able to make informed decisions themselves. Troy, I'm genuinely, really sorry. Thankfully, we did resolve it. So I, I, I, Troy accepted the apology. So I, you know, I'm not gonna just send too much hate to this person. They are plastic surgeon, so, you know, they, they seem young, but it could be their treatments working, right?

[A]

Yeah, they could just be 70, looking.

[B]

20, you know, be a new doctor into the field. So I'm not gonna try to, like, send too much hate to this person, but I just find this whole practice, and not to put it all on this one specific doctor, because I've seen these types of videos a lot from dermatologists and cosmetic surgeons and stuff like that before, and I just find it to be really, like, almost insidious in a way. I feel the same way with, like, dentists too. I feel like dentists and plastic surgeons, like, they get on TikTok, they try to be influencers. And I get it. Like, everyone needs to, like, raise the profile of their business, but I just don't like the way a lot of them do it. Especially when it comes to, like, picking apart celebrity faces.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because, like, you have instances like this with Troy where he did see it, but, you know, usually they're not posting this for the celebrity to, like, learn what they should have done. It's really, in my opinion, allegedly, for people who have those similar features to be like, oh, I never considered, I should, I should get filler here or I should get this, I should get this yanked and plucked and pulled.

[A]

Interesting. Yeah.

[B]

So. And that then fosters insecurity in people and then drives them to become clients of this person or other people in the industry. I think as long as you're show, my opinion would be like, if you're gonna show, because, like, I understand, like, hey, I mean, I saw one of his videos about, like, strawberry skin keratosis Pilaris, and I screenshotted the moisturizer. So. Thank you, doctor.

[A]

Oh, this ain' doctor.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, oh, I'll check out these, I'll check these out. So I think that's like a good video. But he, he does have another video that is from, I think, prior to this Troy incident. So the sensitivity may be upped, but it is one that says, stop laughing so much.

[A]

Wait, why did the lines laugh lines?

[B]

And I just feel like telling them to not do life's like, most pure, joyous emotion of laughter. Like, it's such a gift to be.

[A]

Able to laugh to me sometimes I can't physically laugh. Like, you guys are very good laughers. But even if I'm watching, like, a comedy show or like a At home, like, I don't laugh out loud. I don't know how to almost.

[B]

If I'm locked in, I will, like, I'll, like, think mentally. That's so funny. But, like, I'm almost, like. I'm really trying to focus on what they're saying. So I almost, like, won't depends.

[A]

I think I'm, like, conscious. It's like when you sneeze. Sometimes I'm all, like, conscious of, like, how I sneeze because I'm like, I don't want to have, like, a big loud.

[B]

I got made fun of for my laugh once in fifth grade.

[A]

Really? It's so good.

[B]

Changed how I laugh for a few years because of it. And then I just stopped caring after I started streaming and stuff.

[A]

So I think I need to be more of a laugher. Yeah, you got a great laugh. Although this doctor's telling me not to, I guess, for those laugh lines.

[B]

Well, you know, I mean, we don't have to take every. You don't have to listen to doctors.

[A]

Not all the time. That is true. Doctors, you know what? They know a lot. There's no disrespect to doctors, but there are some doctors that maybe especially in the cosmetic field, they love to be like, you could do this, this. And, you know, I respect a doctor who's just like, you don't need it. You know what I mean? But if it makes you feel better, that's how I felt about. What was the one. The chin. Everyone was getting Carrie Daniels, and essentially everyone was getting this chin surgery. And I was just like. Then I started thinking, like, I never thought about my chin ever. I'm like, do I need chin surgery? Because even skinny people were getting it. And I was just like.

[C]

Like the lipo, right?

[A]

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[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I. I can only speak for myself here, but, like, I. I have ocd. So like, sometimes, like, I will. Mine is, like, very thought based. And so, like, I will, like, fixate on, like, a comment I get for, like, years and years, like, thinking about, like, oh, well, this person said, like, oh, I looked at a certain way or whatever. And like, I'm better now, like, with, like, medication management and stuff. But, like, sometimes I, like, really catch myself. Like, wow, every algorithm is trying to rage, bait me, sell me something, make me insecure, or all of the above. And I know it's overwhelming because it just, like, it really, like, I catch myself. I'm like, what am I doing?

[A]

Yeah, you can't consume too much of that stuff. Like, I always push. Not interested. Because. Yeah, the same. Yeah, same. I'm always like, I'm happy. Like, why am I, Like, I need this? And this is like, you really don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I think is a good thing. Well, you know, I'm glad I got resolved. We're always on Troy's side. No matter what. You're always a twink in my heart.

[B]

I respect the doctor for apologizing and reaching out. I hope that in the future, if you're gonna, you know, make videos about skin conditions, use anonymous photos. Don't show the person's face, blur their eyes. You know, make sure it's consented. Medical photographs, you know, stuff like that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

From, you know, whatever resources you have, I think I. You know, I think it's important to. I understand both sides. Sides, because it's like, you want to show, like, hey, these. These beauties. Celebrities that are pushing a beauty standard. It's artificial. It's artificially attained. But at the same time, I don't. I. I don't know if the diagnosing you with twink death kind of angle is really the one that we should be going.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you know, if Troye Sivan walked out of here with his All Stars lips for Drag Race.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think a noticeable change, I think then it's like, okay, we can, like, maybe point out, like, this is a procedure that was done, but being like, you need this, this, this, which also, like, Troy, don't be too hard on yourself. The lighting in that video was diabolical. Like, you look.

[A]

Which video are we talking about?

[B]

It was just like, the video that the doctor was, like, analyzing. It was like a red carpet interview that was, like, really close up and in a shadow. Like, like, at the moment premiere.

[A]

Was it at the moment.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. But at the moment premiere, you know, you were nicely lit, properly lit. You look fierce in that picture of Trisha trying really hard to not.

[A]

Oh, boy. Did you edit?

[B]

Of course I did. It's so funny. I showed it to Dallas immediately.

[A]

No, I contacted him. I saw him. I'm like. Because you know what my fear is? I do love him, and I am, like, obsessed with him. I never want to be like, oh, that girl. Like, watch out. You know what I mean? Like, I gotta run.

[B]

I get that.

[A]

You know, the fear in his eyes or something like that. So I was like, let me just. Just pretend like I'm not here for a minute. He. He seemed cool. He seems. I. I like him. But I do have to, like, chill on my choice of on love because I'm like. I don't want to be that, like, weirdo. You know what I mean?

[B]

Have you. Have you heard his song Rush?

[A]

Yes, of course. I love.

[B]

I feel like that's with, like, a Rush Choreo, the blonde challenge.

[A]

Oh, we guys gotta do a choreo Patreon Day.

[C]

That was one of our first Hot Topics, though. That was the one Time we weren't on Troy's side when he had no fatties in the Rush music video.

[B]

Remember that? It was timestamp.

[A]

Well, that's constructive criticism. We would love to see more body representation, but, hey, if you don't like a fatty, that's. That's your personal preference. You know, that's fine. I'm no twink over here.

[B]

That's original.

[A]

But I would love to see it, even if it's performative. I think that's what we said, right? Even if performative.

[C]

We would love to put a bear in there.

[A]

Yeah, we would love to see that.

[C]

Well, I think that the message overall, though, is, like, giving someone unprompted advice on, like, what things they could do to, like, look hotter is just kind of like a no go.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think people like those videos that were, like, they deconstruct celebrities, like, faces and bodies, obviously, because it kind of makes them more human. Like when Emma Stone or, like, Anne Hathaway or Jennifer Lawrence still look, like, 22 at, like, and they're like, you know, in their. Their moms or in their 40s or whatever. I think it is validating for people to be like, oh, they probably got this, this, and this done. But then, I don't know. It's a balance of, like, not being invasive or, like, projecting.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Or making people more insecure. It is kind of a weird thing of, like, transparency to know that, like, people don't normally age this way or look this way versus, like, not perpetuating more insecurities. It's hard to, like, balance that. But I feel someone literally made a video on me that was like, do this, this, this, and this, and you'll look hot.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think I would do something that would get me on the news, of course.

[B]

Like, try not to drive the getaway car.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Duo we needed right now.

[C]

I'm driving. We're not getting very far. I'm driving straight into that practice. I'll be like, yeah, would you maybe you have occasional.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I do. I have a little bit of a temper to me. Keep that Emmy away from me. I'll keep that Emmy out of my hand and a wig off my head because I'll do something cr.

[A]

That's why we love a Kylie Jenner who also just points out when she gets something done. You know what I mean? She's like, here's my boobs. This, this, and this. We love it. That was gonna be one of my questions. If I got to interview Kylie on the red carpet, I was gonna Be like, do you have any other beauty secrets that you're gatekeeping? Courtesy of Oscar writing for me, it was a good one, I think. Then they told me I might have one with her. I was like, ooh. Because it was like, the premise was like, you're a girl's girl. You share all your beauty secrets. What one is currently gatekeeping that you could share with us and it might be just be like in love or something that glow, you know, like, it would have been. It would have been. I was really excited. That was a good question. Because I told Oscar I. I think. I think I get a question. And then when you sent those to me, I was like, that might be.

[C]

I know. I love when she does that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because everyone now considers her like the ultimate girls girl because she'll be, I think for Golden Globes, people wanted to know her, like, lip combo. She's like, hold on. Like, let me post this.

[A]

Did you post it?

[C]

She ended up doing like, her little. Yeah. Routine.

[A]

Love.

[C]

So she's there. I love that she's like, in the comments. She also is, like, would like, like and repost, like, fan edits of herself and Timmy, which I think is cute. I kind of live for Kylie on Tick Tock. I think she's really cute.

[A]

Like, and, and like, she's actually like, in like, looking at stuff and posting. I like her too. Well, speaking of apologies, Rene Cummings has apologized again. Did you see that?

[C]

No.

[A]

To me, Rachel and fans. Yeah. And she's like, she's so funny. Like, her apologies are one. That's just like never a real, like, not, not a real apology, but it's just so funny. It's kind of me apologizing. So it's kind of. It's very much just like, sorry if I hurt your feelings kind of thing. You know, it's just like, whatever. Have you seen the trailers? We have age before. Okay. I'm kind of excited because I. Okay. I feel like this is a. This one. I've been like. I've been like, doing. I've been looking for spoilers, but I can't. You saw the drama trailer. Did you see it? No. Yeah.

[C]

The Robert Pattinson. Yes.

[A]

You didn't see it?

[B]

No, I didn't know that. Came out.

[A]

It came out yesterday and I like to know what's about because remember we saw the movie posters for it and.

[D]

I was like, we saw the trailer in the theater.

[A]

No, the trailer just came out yesterday.

[C]

There was a teaser trailer.

[A]

Oh, a teaser. But this is like the full one came out yesterday.

[D]

It was them, like, being awkward in.

[A]

The photo shoot, but then it shows why they were. So they're playing a game with another couple because, you know, they're, like, in love, and they're like, okay, everyone, like, tell, like, say a secret. Like, nobody's gonna judge you. Just say, like, a really crazy secret.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Is that how they framed it, Oscar? Where it was just like, tell a crazy secret?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're not gonna judge you. Like, the craziest thing about yourself. So then the couple goes and they show their secrets, which I don't remember what it was. Whatever. They, like, just a secret. And then they ask Robert Pattinson his. And they're all like, oh. But they don't, like, say what the secret is. And then they asked Zendaya, but then everyone's like, oh, like. Like, no, that's not. And then there was, like, judgment. And then that's why they act weird, because he's like, oh, I don't know. So anyways, I was trying to Google, like, what she said, because I was like, did I miss something? Like, is this a book? Like, what is. What did she say? So I was like, what. What was, like, the secret that, like, Zendaya is like. Or her character, I guess, is, like, banned for in the movie. Reddit had theories. Spoilers are coming. Spoilers are coming. Spoiler, get out now. Spoiler alert. Spoiler warning of what it was. That it was, like, the worst. Like, you know, the worst thing you could possibly do because that's why they, like, don't want to get married or anymore. Like that. Do you know? Do you know what it is?

[C]

I remember seeing it on Twitter when the teaser came out, but I forgot, and I don't want to know what it is. Oh, because it's supposed to be the big twist.

[A]

I don't want to either. Yeah.

[C]

But, you know, we all know Trisha Kay loves the spoilers, you know, but.

[A]

There'S, like, there's three theories because no one really knows. Right. Because the movie hasn't been screened yet.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's not based on a book. I think people.

[C]

I saw one that everyone was running with and said it like it was a leak, but obviously there's nothing to, like, substantiate it.

[A]

So the pew pew one. Well, I just say that it's not a spoiler.

[B]

That is a spoiler.

[A]

I haven't seen this movie. I'm not the spoiler queen. No one's seen it. It's the leak. Right. But, like, there's other theories.

[C]

Spoilers Are coming.

[A]

Spoilers.

[C]

Spoilers are here.

[B]

I'm so glad I got to experience that in real time. But it sounds like alone in my room and getting mad.

[A]

Real life.

[D]

It sounds too predictable.

[A]

But do you even know what that.

[D]

Means by that clue that she did something with?

[B]

Do you know what? Pew, pew.

[A]

No, that's not it though. That's what I'm saying. But that clue alone, you wouldn't be able to guess what it was. I won't go to in detail the other theory that's like the main one. Look, first of all, there's many theories, so I'm just. Whatever the other one was that she was like stalking him and like knew everything about him and like just showed up to places so it looked like they just like accidentally fell in love or something like that. Anyways, my point of all this was I was gonna ask you guys, what would be your big secret that you wouldn't want your significant other to know? That it could end the marriage, could end the engagement, could end the relationship. Go.

[D]

Okay, let me call HR again. I don't know. I think we're gonna get.

[A]

No, it's a hot topic. It's the drama. Pretend we're Robert Pattinson. Zendaya. Okay, we're all Zendaya, so we make you.

[D]

Nopes.

[A]

Scenario. No, no. Like a secret.

[D]

But their significant others are not even here to be.

[A]

That's even better than.

[D]

They're gonna be watching this. They're gonna be watching this light.

[A]

Secret light. We don't have to say like you killed somebody or something, but just say like a light.

[C]

Mine, I mean, mine got exposed, I guess because daring came to my parents house. But I think mine would be that I collect like action figures and like dolls from my childhood. I still have them. No, I like, I didn't even like address it. He just like came into my parents house. My room. My parents house, which is like where I stream and stuff. And it was. Everything was just there. And I think he didn't really ask any questions actually. So he. It's kind of don't ask, don't tell. It's there, but do you think it was cute?

[A]

Did he say anything like that or just.

[C]

I think, I mean, he, he does like buy collectibles like for holidays and stuff. Like my present from him will be like collecting collectibles and stuff. And he's like, oh, you can like keep it at your parents house.

[A]

Oh, that like not.

[C]

It is specifically. Yeah, even the Labu boos in our apartment was pushing it.

[A]

So.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

So he was. At least it was a secret that didn't, like. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

A secret that may not ruin a relationship. What's a secret that may be like, oh, I didn't know that about you. Does you have any from Dallas that you're. That you've hidden?

[B]

When I was a kid, I was. My sister and I were throwing rocks into the street. I don't know why. We were, like, seven.

[C]

God, you killed someone?

[B]

No, guys, we killed.

[A]

Wait, what is the rocks? Did you get some funny ones?

[B]

We were at the Jersey shore, and we were, like, trying to throw rocks onto the median. There was, like, a median in the road that had a tree. We were like, let's try to hit the tree. And I threw it, and a car came really fast, and the car went under the rock, and it cracked their windshield. But they were going, like. They were going, like, five miles an hour. So. But they swerved into the drive, the driveway of the house we were staying at, and my sister and I were banging on the front door to our parents.

[A]

Like, let us hear.

[B]

Like, we literally thought, like, this guy was going to kill us.

[A]

Yeah. And.

[B]

And he, like, got out of the car, was, like, screaming at us, and my dad had to write him a check to get the windshield fixed.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So you, like, harmless, but, like, you know, that's not bad.

[A]

But do you think Dallas would, like, not want to marry you because of that?

[B]

No, but, you know, not that you.

[A]

Need to get married. Not pulling a Justin Bateman over here. Jason Bateman, where it's like, oh, you guys can marry.

[B]

Yeah, we'll get married someday. I asked him the other day. I'm like, do you want to be fiance's? And he was just like, okay.

[C]

Oh, so you're engaged?

[A]

I guess.

[B]

But, like, boyfriend's so cute. But, like, I don't know.

[A]

Boyfriend is cute. I do think fiance is, like, a weird term when people say fiance. I'm like, well, be boyfriend or husband.

[B]

You know what I mean? The idea of either of us proposing with, like, an actual, like, whole, like, formality, like, especially, like, in a public setting, like, I think is both of our absolute nightmares.

[A]

What if you do it privately? Well, I guess you are. I guess you asked already.

[B]

It's kind of like, we got two dogs. We live together. We've been together six years. Like, we're gonna get married. We're gonna figure it out. Like, yeah, it's just we, you know, we both got adhd, so the marriage.

[A]

Is never gonna happen. The Ceremony will never take place. But it's in your house.

[B]

We'll go to the courthouse and you know, that'll be it.

[A]

And then. Yeah. Where is she at?

[B]

I would love to have like a little get together once we have a house. Like even if we're just renting a house and just like we have people come over and like that's really it. Like, I don't. The idea of like walking down an aisle and like everyone's staring, like. Yeah, I love going to a wedding. Cause I love to dance and have fun. But like the idea of like the whole like pomp and circumstance and all that is so like.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Overwhelming to me, you know?

[A]

I think so. I think that's like the new wave now of marriage. Everyone's doing like elopements and chin. Court. Court, my man. Court weddings, I guess. Right? That's like. You court what? Like, I just feel like that is the way to go. You save money. Yeah, it is like, it is like. Yeah, a lot of money.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's literally. I tell everyone how we went into debt. Just a wedding, it was so much. And then. Yeah, just. I don't know, the stress. I don't know the stress of it all. And then like you look back and we like love being married. Only have bad memories. Not like we look at the good thing like we got married that day. But then we like look back and like. Well, a lot went wrong. Haunts us sometimes. But anyways, that's a whole different thing. How about you? What's your secret? Me just doing this whole game for Moses.

[D]

I feel like this is the whole set up.

[A]

I know. It's like Moses you.

[C]

All your secrets have been on YouTube.com.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like I've said every everything. All right, the hot topics are hot today. Should we talk about Charlie xx? Cuz you're the angel. Yeah, you're angel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you see the moment?

[B]

No, not yet. I'm going to go see it though. I have to play.

[A]

Where's it playing in la. Ly.

[C]

I'm not a Burbank. I think is the closest. I think.

[B]

Think Dallas's car is broken. We'll have to uber there.

[D]

Oh no.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What happened?

[B]

We don't know.

[A]

It just won't work. His.

[B]

Yeah, his like engine stopped starting like.

[C]

You know, he didn't get to fix it.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Trisha played a mechanic in a twitch talk and she fixed the car up real quick again.

[A]

For how much? It wasn't. There was like 15 cents or something.

[C]

It was real affordable.

[B]

RuPaul can change a tire. Oh, what?

[A]

Patreon. That's what we're going to do. Fix Dallas's car, bring it over. Someone can figure out between Moses, Oscar, me. You don't know anything mechanic wise.

[B]

No, he doesn't either. I like replace stuff in my computer.

[A]

But that is impressive.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know anything about cars. I don't drive or anything. A passenger princess all day.

[A]

I love that. No desire to drive.

[B]

I would like to at least learn someday. Just for an emergency. Because one time Dallas was passing a kidney stone but he didn't understand that that's what that was. So he was in so much pain and he had to drive himself to the emergency room. And I'm just like. Or urgent care. And I'm just sitting in the park passenger seat. I'm like, just breathe.

[A]

Oh, no. That is the worst.

[B]

We're in the middle of moving from like one of our previous apartments in Florida and stuff. So like we were at our old place that was like right down the road. So we only drove like two or three minutes. But he was just like, I was like, this is so embarrassing for me.

[A]

Like, and he wasn't like an excruciating thing that he had to pull over. He or he just went through, he.

[B]

Just went through it. And the doctors all, they brought doctors in to come look at how big the kidney stone was. It was like as big as like a pee.

[A]

And you have to pass it through the pee hole. Yeah. People do say it's like equivalent to like childbirth. I mean, I haven't been through a kidney stone, but they say it is crazy. Contractions are insane. I don't think I could drive on contractions. Although I know women on Tik Tok have drone themselves to give birth, so it's probably the same.

[B]

Not ideal, you know?

[A]

No. Well, could you have done it in an emergency situation? Do you think you drive like how to be. Pull over the mo.

[C]

I, you probably could.

[B]

It's gas and brain could have figured it out if like it was like a really, really. Like he's having a heart attack and he's like incapable of this.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

But I kind of was just like, you got this.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Learning to drive too. Like it is a thing now. I feel like people are trying to. I don't know. It's kind of overrated. If someone can, if you have someone to drive you, that's better, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I mean I, I, I edit everything from home, so the only time if I do go somewhere, it's Uber.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's like it, it's way less than like a car payment would be and everything like that car insurance if I lease something. So just not doing Waymo. Scary. No. I see them and I don't know.

[A]

How people love Waymo. On Tick Tock. I always hear story times and people are just like, so I took Awaymo and I ordered my Waymo and I was like, wow, everyone's doing way more.

[B]

Not me. No.

[A]

You don't try it.

[B]

I don't, I don't think ever. Do you see the video of this person? Their Waymo brought them on the 405 and they're not supposed to go on the highway. I just, just them in the backseat.

[A]

Screaming, oh my God. Does it stay in like the slow lane or does it try to merge over?

[B]

I don't know. But that's so scary to me. If I, if I do learn how to drive, it's gonna take me two and a half hours to get here because I'm taking side streets.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's actually not a bad side street from where you are at. Take some.

[B]

Yeah. I'd be more open on learning how to drive here in LA because of the traffic so that I don't have to go very fast and I.

[A]

That's crazy. Most people would say they wouldn't want to learn to drive in LA because the traffic is so. And you should go to like Illinois where there's like a two, two lane freeways, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But yes, I don't need it. I like driving though.

[B]

Driving, you know, I think I would, I think I would be a better driver than I think, but I just have so much. I just have so much anxiety about rightfully so driving and I don't know, I just, I like could have learned my high school offered like free drivers at. And I almost did it, but I would have had to have been alone in the car with a really scary teacher who just, I don't know, he just didn't smile a lot. So I was just like, no, thank you. The awkward making conversation. I would like not be.

[A]

Well, even when you do your driver's test, they talk to you and you're like, can you not talk to me? I'm trying to focus because mine was like I sat too long at a red light when you can turn right and I just like sat there and I was just like. Because it's all the rules of it too. Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Ooh, festival season is upon us. The Grammys just happening, babies seeing. I want to see Justin Bieber live. Well, he can. He'll be at Coachella. Maybe you're like, oh, I want to see Ariana Grande. Well, you can because she's also going on tour. There are so many tours happening. Demi Lovato, Adela. There's so much. Maybe Trish, who knows? My Chemical Romance. I blocked that off. Okay, Just caught me out for the last week of October here in LA at the Hollywood Bowl. I'm getting those tickets, I'm getting good seats. And if you want the best seats for the best price, the best deals, check out SeatGeek. With over 35 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on Seat, including concert, sports, festivals and more. There's so many artists going on tour in 2026, like Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, Car Cardi B, Zara Larson, Chris Stapleton, Morgan Wallen, Alex Warren, Olivia Dean and more. Check them all out. Maybe, maybe super bowl. Maybe there's some last minute tickets on there. I don't know. Go check it out if you want to. If you want to go, try Seat Geek. Those last minute ticket options sometimes may be your best deal ever. Seeking has your back. Each ticket is rated on a scale of 1 to 10, so you know you're getting a good deal. Look for the green dots. Green means good and red means bad. Plus every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee. The new year means new artists are on tour. To make it even better, you can use code TRISH2026 for 10% off your SeatGeek tickets as Trish 2026 for 10% off your Seatgeek orders 10% off tickets with promo code Trish 2026 entered in the app. So you automatically apply to your purchases. Make sure you click the link in the description and download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you so much, SeatGeek, for sponsoring today's episode.

[B]

I just kind of didn't need it. Like if I was gonna go somewhere, Dallas was also gonna go somewhere too. Like we go everywhere.

[A]

I love that. Be like, yeah, we gotta. The same way that I rarely drive alone, maybe to get my nails done or something like that. But it's just nicer to have someone. Yeah, someone drive. You're the way, Moses.

[C]

Your whole thing with programs is anti games. And then the one game you come up with is like, what's the one thing that will ruin your life work.

[A]

I truly did love the trailer. And I truly was Googling that. I was like, what did she say? Like, I truly was. And I was like, oh, that's a fun game. I'll ask everybody else. I really didn't think of it until we played it.

[D]

Whole suspense movie around it, so I.

[A]

Don'T think it's just a comedy drama, to be fair.

[B]

I'm excited to see that. I. I haven't seen the trailer. I haven't seen anything about it, but Zendaya has really just been doing like. Like, she's really becoming like, a movie star. Like, yeah, she's always been very famous and stuff, but, like, Challengers is one of my favorite movies ever.

[A]

I gotta put that.

[B]

I need my fourth movie for letterbox. I think that's gonna be it.

[A]

Challengers. Yeah, that should be on mine too. I need to redo my letters. I know.

[D]

Don't.

[A]

I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think somebody would have told me.

[B]

Yeah. Pearl's a 24. I love Pearl. It's Mia. Go.

[A]

I know. I need to see it. That's.

[B]

You can just watch Pearl. It, like, they. They all kind of stand alone, but, like, Pearl, I think you would like.

[A]

The most because she's like, right.

[C]

It's Challengers.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Why did they tell us that on the tour? They should. I would have loved that. Wow.

[B]

But, yeah, I think you'd like Pearl because her whole thing is like, she wants to leave, like, her farm town and go and be, like, a flapper dancer and be a star. And I. I don't know. I think you'd like it.

[A]

But then she, like, kills people.

[B]

Yeah. But it's like, you don't see a lot. Like, okay, she chops him with an axe, but you don't see a lot of that action.

[A]

Like, actual.

[B]

Like, it's like camp. Yeah. Like, I think it's rated R, but, like, to me it's like PG 13.

[A]

People do love it. People, as in YouTube, you guys love it.

[B]

Is a gay Twitter staple, in my opinion.

[A]

Are you selling Twitter?

[B]

Yeah, unfortunately I am.

[A]

I know it's hard to get off of it. I'm always like, I'm just gonna delete this. And I'm like. But then it's like, I've been really.

[B]

Trying lately to, like, catch myself. Like, oh, I'm just scrolling. I'm watching videos. I'm like, just like, go play a game or something else. Like, go. Go draw. Go make a meal or something. Like, I just try to, like, do something that's not that.

[A]

Me too. I just doom scroll on social media. I'm the exact same way because I look at him like something's depressing. As we talked about earlier.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Social media can be.

[C]

And back to Charli xcx. I don't know where.

[B]

I'm so happy you went to the premiere.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. We. That's crazy. That was where my Hot Topic was going. How did we get so far?

[C]

Riding to the theater and then.

[B]

Oh, yes. I'm so happy you're in your Brat era.

[A]

In the Brat era.

[B]

It took a little bit, but, you know, I'm still pushing for a Gaga era.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I got one of the.

[A]

What?

[B]

You know, Brad's two years. Mayhem's only one year, so next year we'll have the Gaga.

[A]

I agree. Yes. I'm Brat now. Gaga Monster soon. But, yes, my hot topic was the Jason Bateman interview.

[C]

Yes. And Charlie XCX went on Smart List. And I didn't know the premise of Smart List until this happened.

[A]

I have no idea.

[C]

I think it's kind of your worst nightmare. So there's the different hosts. I think there's three.

[A]

All three men.

[C]

All three men.

[A]

I know one's gay, but Sean Hayes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I'm sure he did the no Hate campaign.

[B]

Oh, definitely did no Hate. I'll find a picture.

[A]

He's the leader of that. For sure.

[C]

But the gag is so one of them books a guest and doesn't tell the other two.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

And they don't know, like, who they are. So that's why.

[A]

Yes. Who the hell would do this?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So who booked Charlie? Sean Hayes.

[C]

That's insane, actually, the concept of us doing that. Jimmy. With Luscious Massacre, probably.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Yes. Luscious.

[B]

Come on. The podcast. We love you, Trisha.

[A]

Wow. Time to prep.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's me at the moment. Premiere being like, go interview. Okay. Like, trying the best I can. Okay.

[C]

So that's how this whole debacle happened.

[A]

Look what happened. Like, just like, what the hell? So the podcasts are always like that. Someone picks the gas and doesn't tell the other.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Crazy. That's a waste of time. It's disrespectful. Like, it's not fun. It's not fun for anyone to, like, be there and be like, who are you? Tell us about yourself. Like, that's, like, the worst I always say about ebbing. Podcast, Podcast. When someone's pocket. Tell us what you do. What Are you known for? It's like, how about do some research?

[B]

Even if you're reading off a card, like, exactly, like, just it for the viewer. It's like, what the hell is going on?

[A]

No, exactly. Give. Give something when they gave nothing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And something.

[C]

Jason Bateman. It all happened when Jason Bateman asked Charlie if she would want to have, like, more than one kid and have, like, the same experience that, like, she had growing up. Up, because Charlie was an only child. And that's when Charlie said, like, I actually don't really want to have kids. And Sean Hayes was gagged because Sean Hayes also has said that he doesn't want kids either. But then Jason Bateman said, well, that could change. And he said that she could end up, like, wanting to have kids when she finds the right man to have them with. And that's when Charlie went, well, well, I am married. And she did just get married, like, last year.

[B]

Shout out George.

[C]

Yeah, shout out George. Bald joy. The bald Joys.

[B]

R slash bald guys. Charlie XCX marries a bald guy. A win for ball.

[A]

Okay, you guys are deep into it. I love this. Okay?

[C]

And then he joked that, well, I gotta read a newspaper one of these days. So that's kind of when it all went awkward. And then it's one of those things, too, that, like, when especially, like, Charlie fans, I think women in general probably could relate to it. And also, especially Charlie fans, obviously, are very protective as well. So, like, social media really, like, went off on Jason Bateman because, like, it is always such an awkward thing to, like, ask a woman or tell a woman that maybe she'll want kids when she finds the right guy or whatever.

[B]

Charlie also has a song all about this on Brat.

[A]

Like, I hate kids.

[B]

Not quite.

[A]

Love it. Respect it.

[B]

She has a song. I think about it all the time. That I might run out of time that I finally met my baby and the baby might be mine maybe one day I might. Will it give my life a new purpose? Think about it all the time. Oh, yeah. And it's, like, all about, like, her friends have kids and she's like, it's so amazing to see, like, she, she's exactly the same, but she's different now. Like, should I focus on my career or should I do this? Like, it's like, if, you know, if you, like, just even listen, like, literally the most recent album. Like, it's something she is open about and, like, talked about and her complicated feelings on the whole thing. And, like, I don't know. I, I, that's such A. It's also just like, it's such a sensitive topic. Like, you don't know. Like, yeah.

[D]

She said many times, kids are just brats.

[B]

Bubba.

[C]

Nat.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Moses mentality.

[A]

Yes. In 2026. In 2025 and 2024 and 2023. I think in, like, I think in the world now, we just know not to ask people, like, when are you having kids? To anyone. Like, anyone. I mean, Sean has said in this thing, he's like, I want to want to have kids. Like, he goes, I like. I like the idea of it. But also he's like, I'd rather he said something so, like, smart is like, I'd rather regret not having kids than have kids and regret having them, which is, like, so true. Right. You shouldn't be, like, on the fence with kids. I think I say this all the time. Like, I was like, my whole life, I'm like, I'm gonna. I'm. I'm meant to be a mother, a great mother. And then, like, yeah, when I had kids, you just, like, for a minute, you're like, oh, my gosh. Did I make, like, the right. You know what? Like, because is. It is a life commitment. It's way harder than anyone says.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like, of course, now, like. Like, kids are like, my life and stuff, but, like, if someone's even on the fence about it or what it's like. Or Jennifer Aniston is a good example, too. People always were like, oh, Brad Pitt left her because she don't want to have Chick. I always wanted kids. She, like, couldn't. She had, like. It was like. Like, she had friends. And there was, like, fertility issues. And then people like, why didn't you adopt? She goes, well, and she said something recently like, oh, I don't want to adopt. I want my own kids. And people were pissed about that. Like, people were just, like, not happy. She was, like, very honest. Like, well, I don't want to adopt. I wanted my own kid. And then people are pissed about that. And then there's people who's like, I don't want kid. And then they're pissed about. So I think, again, the general consensus is, like, just don't ask people. Like, I feel like even. Okay, right. The whole premise is, like, they don't. They don't know the guest or they don't know who the guest is coming. Like, maybe he didn't know.

[C]

Both.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. Like, I don't think he knew much of. Like, obviously, he probably knew Charlie xcx, but didn't Know much of.

[A]

Didn't know she was married, obviously, and stuff like that. But I think, like, just like any. Especially any woman, especially when you're a guy, I think, yeah. Why are you asking? Especially when she's like, oh, I don't really want kids. Maybe if you meet the right. That's the craziest thing to say to someone. Like, maybe if you meet the right person. No, no, I don't want kids. And, like, I know what he's saying, right? Like, so it's like, I get that premise, but also, it's just like, you're a guy. Why are you commenting on my. It's just, like, so annoying. And like. Or gay couples or any couple, right? You get married and, like, when's the next. You know what I mean? Even after I gave birth to Aquaman, literally, that nurse the next day was like, like, are you planning on a fourth? Like, what the. And I just got my tubes out, and I was like. And then, you know, immediately, like, you're postpartum. And then I'm like, did I make the wrong. Wrong choice should I not make? Because they kept telling you, when you get your tubes up, up until, like, they very do it. They keep asking, are you sure? Are you sure it's irreversible? Are you sure? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when that lady's, like, having a fourth, I was like, oh, no. And I just, like, broke down. So I was like, I'm like, now I can. So let's not do that. It's so. It is so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. And then, like, I don't know. This is a podcast that did not win the Emmy, clearly, because Amy Poehler would never ask those questions. That is crazy to me. And it's like, you have Charlie X to X on your podcast, and that's like. That's what you're asking. Like that, like, literally the most interesting person in the whole world, and you're just like, when you have kids. Okay, Jason Bateman. I don't know. Don't want to know your stance. Don't care. I don't care about a man's opinion about anything, but especially not a body. And asking me about if I want kids, if somebody even now was like, if a guy asked me, do you want kids? I mean, I'd be like, you. You know what I mean?

[B]

I think the implication, too, of, like, you'll. You'll meet the right person. It's like, yeah, well, she knows. She knows the answer herself. Even if she wasn't married. Like, like, not only is it, like, crazy to, like, not. I. I think that whole format is just such a strange recipe for disaster. Yeah.

[A]

It.

[B]

Because, like, clearly, like, it didn't work out. It's awkward as hell.

[A]

And, like, no know, she handled it good, but us angels didn't. We were like, absolutely not. Don't you dare ask our Charlie that. I would never. Also, people thought I had inside information about Charlie changing her name. People are like, how did Trisha know? But I swear, there is an article. Did you ever find this article about it? What? How would I make this up? I swear she goes by, like, Charlene and then, like, P is her.

[D]

Because I looked last time, the name.

[A]

Oh, okay. I had no inside information. She did not disclose anything to me. But someone thought that maybe I knew something that I. I didn't. What you saw is what you saw. That's the only question I got. But I swear she's like, okay, well, whatever. Brat Card is real, though. Howard Sterling dot com. I don't know if we should promote that. Maybe we shouldn't. I don't know. It's a bank in the uk. They are the Brat Card. It's. When you watch the movie, you, like, want this card. It's, like, bright green. It's so cool. It's marketed towards the gays.

[B]

Oh, I'll get my credit card with it.

[A]

Yo. Really?

[D]

Charlotte Ammo?

[C]

Oh, well, that's her government name.

[A]

Is there any article about it, though? Or am I just, like, making this up?

[D]

No, but I'm saying it's kind of like Georgia and Joel. Maybe she. No, but I decided that she decided to go by her actual name.

[A]

No, but I saw an article on it. I was trying to find the article. Not just, like, her name.

[C]

No, there's no articles on it. I mean, your exact words were, there was release. You didn't get it. And I said, no. I get a lot of press releases.

[A]

Does make that up. That's crazy.

[C]

Well, maybe it was in the movie.

[D]

No, I mean, there's a Reddit article from a year ago.

[B]

Is it in the credits in the movie? Like, Ariana Grande did? Ariana Grande? Yeah, maybe it's like her name.

[A]

I have no idea. Watch the movie because I'm not sure I literally.

[B]

I will stay for the credits and we'll see.

[A]

Where did I get that? Maybe it was. I don't know.

[D]

There is article, but because she changed the X here from uppercase to lowercase.

[B]

That's Brad.

[A]

That's what I was thinking.

[B]

All lowercase no punctuation. No commas.

[A]

Very brat. Yeah, you know, brat's over, but not for me. It lives out of my hair. Well, I just think three men with a podcast. Three men with a microphone is just too much. Except if you're in this room. Oh. Oh, that's not.

[C]

In the sense that.

[A]

But the quora. The quote quota has to be at least. At least two gays. They can't be two straights in a gay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

One is just not enough.

[B]

Yeah. Jason Bateman. Make a change.

[A]

Yeah, Jason. Maybe if you met the right man, maybe you would have changed your mind about your heterosexuality. I don't like him. Maybe we do. I don't know. I love him.

[B]

In Arrested Development, I will say, but.

[A]

I mean, I only saw Game Night.

[B]

Zootopia.

[C]

He's.

[B]

He's the Fox.

[C]

Oh, love your.

[B]

Everyone has a bad day Day.

[A]

Okay, we love that. But just a lot of bad movies from him. Like work. Remember that? Work party. Christmas party. Yes.

[B]

I. I hated that.

[A]

Oh, my God. So. All of it. That's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to be like. Truly. I'm not trying to be like Jason Bahan. Like, he's probably a fine person. The one with Ms. McCarthy.

[B]

Oh, identity theft.

[A]

Yeah. Where he's Sandy. Like, he's not that great in it. You know what I mean? Maybe. I haven't seen Arrested.

[B]

He plays the straight man in everything.

[A]

He's always just himself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. You know who's the third on Stressless or whatever this podcast?

[C]

Is it Fred Arm? No. Is it Fred Arm?

[A]

No way.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[C]

He's, like, kind of mixed up. Yes.

[B]

I love him, too. From Arrested Development.

[A]

Oh, they're both on Arrested Development.

[B]

That's, like, kind of how they got their big break. You should watch pen15.

[A]

What's this one about?

[B]

It is two women who play themselves, I believe, in eighth grade, and Maya and Anna and they. They are, like adult women playing eighth graders, and they're, like, dressed like eighth graders, and they have, like, eighth grade haircuts and, like, hair clips and stuff like that, and they just kind of, like, reenact like, like, exaggerated, like, stories from their childhood. I think you really like it. It's very, very funny.

[A]

I don't know. Unfortunately, most people recommend shows, and I'm like, this is not it. But okay, I. I could try.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Anyone's watching Bridgeton in here? You watching Bridget?

[D]

No.

[B]

I'm so sorry.

[C]

I saw a little bit of news about Bridgerton. The ratings Were down. I think like maybe like 10ish percent from.

[A]

Because Netflix is not promoting Netflix. I love you. You know I'm going to Netflix as a joke. I'm all about Netflix these days. But oh my gosh, why did they not promote Bridgerton?

[B]

More days on Bridgerton.

[A]

Yes. Benedict is bi. That's his whole like arc line is this. And everyone's like, yeah, the whole. Yes. And then Francesca, spoiler alert. It goes like she loves Michael in the book but they change it to Mikayla in this TV version. So there are a lot of queer storylines. There should be more gay. Gay. I feel I'm with you on that. I just don't know. Especially with he rivalry. They really gotta step up the sex.

[B]

I think that would have probably been the move.

[A]

But Benedict does he. When he's always at the. I guess what is it like a house he goes to? I don't know what he is. Or like a bar. I don't know where he's at.

[D]

He does always hang out.

[A]

Yeah. He's always like house. I think it's a house, right?

[D]

I don't think so.

[A]

He pays people.

[B]

He pays to have sex with them.

[D]

Like the guy he kissed was just a fellow.

[A]

Just a fellow.

[B]

Release a medieval cover of Freaky.

[A]

Medieval.

[B]

Yeah. Because don't they use like modern music? But it's like it's a lot medieval. Yeah. They do this orchestra, old as hell instruments. But freaky.

[A]

A little Challenger.

[B]

Hello, Freaky.

[A]

That's a good idea. Bridgerton. If you want to use it, feel free to if there is a season five because if the ratings are low and they're not promoting it, they were.

[C]

12 is a 12 decrease from 2024. But it still debuted with 39.7 million views in the first four days, which is the most watched title on Netflix for the week. So it's still doing well. But it is well.

[D]

I think it will go up because they. They didn't promote it. But now that the show is out, people are talking about it. Yeah, it promotes itself now and I hope so. And so far it's been okay this season. Season it's not.

[A]

I love it. It's my favorite season.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. I think it will do well.

[A]

I think it's my favorite season ever. It has the best storyline ever.

[D]

But it's not like when last season came out. It was everywhere. Like everywhere you looked. You saw it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. They. Well, yeah, the two. The two leads haven't been doing that much press, which I don't know why. Come on the show. Would love to have you here. Yeah, like I mean whatever. Thank you so much to Mint Mobile for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Every group has someone who insists on doing things the hard way. That friend that is still paying for a subscript. They forgot they had that one. Refusing to update their phone because it still works. Well, don't be that person. Especially when it comes to overpaying wireless. Switch to Mint Mobile and be glad you did. Stop paying way too much for wireless just because that's how it's always been. Mint exists purely to fix that. Same coverage, same speed, just without the inflated price tag. The premium wireless you expect unlimited talk, text and data, but at a fraction of what others charge. And for a limited time, get 50% off 3, 6 or 12 month plans of unlimited premium Wireless. Bring your own phone and number, activate with ESIM in minutes and start saving immediately. Immediately. No long term contracts and no hassle. With a seven day money back guarantee and customer satisfaction ratings in the mid-90s, Mint makes it easy to try and see why people don't go back. I think this is a great option. If you are frustrated with your wireless carrier, why not try Mint? The fact that you can take your phone number over there is a real game changer. Keep that phone number because when you need those passcodes and stuff like that, check it out. I know for me we're always like oh, I don't have. Why I don't have reception, I don't have this. Why not try something new? New. It's the new year, especially the Chinese New Year. Time for a new wireless plan. Check out Mint Mobile today. Ready to stop paying more than you have to? New customers can make the switch today and for a limited time get unlimited premium wireless for just 15 per month. Switch now@mint mobile.com Trish that's mintmobile.com T R I S H upper payment of $45 for three months, $9 for six months or $180 for 12 month plan required. $15 a month equivalent taxes and fees. Extra initial plan term only over 50 gigabytes. May slow when a capable device required. Availability, speed and coverage varies. Additional terms apply. See mintmobile.com for details. Thank you so much to Mint Mobile for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. It's that or Free Bird. Anyone know that one here?

[D]

Heard about it.

[A]

That's all over. I don't know how I know about this. Wait, you know?

[D]

Yeah, he has a show.

[A]

Who?

[D]

The machine.

[A]

What? I don't know what that is.

[D]

That's the most famous. That's what he's known for, the Machine. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a movie or what a bit. He used to.

[B]

I don't know. Anyways, I knew Pen and Teller though, the other day, just for the record.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

No, I haven't seen that yet either.

[A]

Okay, but you knew Pen. I do want to get gagged. Or Kevin o'. Leary. Oh, Kevin o' Leary is being dubious now. Like, he. Who did he just come for? I think he came for Charlie XCX or something. He did say something crazy and I was like, can we not do this? Kevin o'. Leary. You just said Marty Supreme. We love you. Like, why are you being. He's dubious. I think he was standing there with.

[D]

So he. He had this bit called the Machine. Like in a comedy show. Like in a stand up show. And he did so well that they did a whole feature. Like he did a whole special out of it. And it was just a story he was telling about, you know, being on the train and a field trip.

[A]

I have no idea.

[D]

From school to Russia and getting involved with the mafia and going.

[A]

Well, I think that the Freeport has some inappropriate jokes too, about, like, his. I've seen Daughters and stuff, and it's like, like, okay, why do we. Anyways, we love Netflix, though, but not all the shows. Netflix is a joke, though. Come see me.

[C]

A Netflix star that I think you need to talk to now because I have so many questions. Madeline Klein. I feel like you probably don't know her, but she's a star of Outer Banks. She's friends with Lucas Gage.

[A]

Okay, sounds familiar. Oh, look who's. I didn't know Lucas. Yes.

[C]

Well, yes, she is, I guess, like one of the leads in Outer Banks. She dated Chase Stokes, also from Outer Banks. I'm trying to think of what else she's in that you would know, but.

[A]

Sounds so familiar.

[C]

She's been in a lot. She was in the. The second Knives out movie. She's just like, gorgeous.

[B]

She.

[C]

She was the girlfriend of influencer Dave Bautista. Yes. Yes.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

And she was serving. God, this is gonna be hard because you don't know any of these people, but okay. Madeline Klein and Chase Stokes dated for a long time. Time. And it was one of those ones where, like, they played love interest in Outer Bank. So the fans loved it. Right. Because it's like the two leads that everyone is invested in the relationship and then they date in real life. So it was like a big. It was Kind of why the show became so popular on Netflix. And they dated for a long time? For a few years. And when they broke up, it was like a whole thing. And then Chase Stokes ended up dating Kelsey Ballerini, who's a countryside singer. Yep.

[B]

And they invent new people every.

[A]

Like, I think Ballerini farms. You know, the one that's, like, trading.

[C]

Oh, the one that's selling, like, okay. Unpasteurized milk.

[A]

Yes. Yes. Allegedly, right? I don't know. Or is it exact confirmed those cows were not pasteurized and they've had to.

[C]

Cease selling because of bacteria.

[A]

Alleged. No. Allegedly. So sorry. Valerie Arms. Kelsey Ballerini. Not the same. No relationship.

[C]

Country singer.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

She's dating Chase Stokes, I think, for, like, two years. They recently broke up a few months ago, and then they re more recently got back together. It's the whole thing. Anyway. Kelsey Ballerini and Meline Klein. Okay, so Kelsey Ballerini, Chase Stokes current girlfriend.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Meline Klein, the ex girlfriend. Kelsey Ballerini was coming to the set of Outer Banks a lot, so they've crossed paths. But people always speculated the two did not get along, I think because they're both, like, pretty blonde girls. The same ex boyfriend, you would think.

[A]

Going for the same roles maybe.

[C]

Well, Kelsey's just a singer, so not the same.

[A]

Maybe not.

[C]

So, no.

[A]

But.

[C]

So everyone kind of thought they would, like, not get along. So then they mysteriously posted, like, an Instagram story selfie together. Like, no context. Like, not even their faces. Just, like, half of their face, kind of. And people started speculating off of that, that people initially thought, oh, it's good. They're squashing the beef. But then the next day, Madeline Klein unfollowed Chase Stokes on Instagram, which is really weird. And Kelsey Ballerini and Chase Stokes got, like, really messy a couple months ago where, like, she, like, blocked him on social media. They said that they broke up, and then, like, a couple weeks later, they got back together. So that was also a big mess. So there's some shenanigans going on. And then De Moi reports that Madeline and Lucas Gage are dating. They're a new romance.

[A]

Madeline Klein and Lucas Gage. So she was that. Or am I just. Did I just mishear it?

[C]

That's his name, right? Am I getting it wrong?

[A]

Lucas Gage, the gay guy, they're dating.

[C]

That's what Duo was reporting. That's why it was so funny.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[B]

Why was it gay?

[A]

You're right.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

You're like, well, yes, of course. What do you mean? Why did you Say everyone was so serious about it. I was like, what?

[B]

Okay, they really worked it out on the remake.

[A]

No, but, like, Lucas Cage is the gay actor that was not dating Madelyn Cline before. Chase Stokes is dating, who's working it out on the remix.

[B]

The girls.

[C]

A mess because now they hate Chase, so they're dating. Okay. Yeah. So there's a few prongs to this story. One is Kelsey Ballerina, Madeline Klein. All this is happening, like, sequentially. So Kelsey Ballerini, Madeline Klein work it on the remix, seemingly. But then, weirdly, Madeline Klein after that hangout and follows Chase Stokes. So, like, why did that happen? And then Madeline Klein went out with Lucas Gage, her gbff, if you will. And De Moi reported that they were a couple, which, again, is weird because, yes, Lucas Gage is gay. But then I was like, well, maybe he's bi. I don't know.

[A]

I think on his episode, he was 10% straight.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

He was, like, a little bit more fluid than just gay, but okay, so.

[A]

Demo saying they're dating. Yeah, he's no longer gay.

[C]

Yeah. And then maybe Madeline Klein comments hit on that. Omfg L L O M l love my life. But also, I feel like there are better pictures of me because they had, like, just came out of a face procedure together. Like a skin vampire facial. Yeah. So then she had, like, she tried to put, like, powder to kind of even out her skin. And then it was kind of giving a little flashback Mary tease. And then Lucas was all red. And Lucas also commented after that and said that they had intense pulse light therapy to stimulate collagen. So that's why their faces were all jacked up, but just a whole bunch of mess. I am very curious about Madeline Klein unfollowing Chase Stokes because why would, like, the ex and the current girlfriend, who just had a whole public falling out and then coming back together with Chase Stokes jokes meet up with her. And then the next day she's like, you know what? I need to unfollow him. When they also have the final season at Outer Banks coming out this year. I'm gonna have to do a press tour for it.

[A]

Well, that's why they probably needed the publicity. I didn't know it's still going, right? Outer Banks is like Toddy Smith. That's what I know about her. Banks.

[C]

Outer Banks.

[A]

That was like, 2018. I didn't know it was still going.

[B]

Even anything about this.

[A]

Exactly. But now we're seated because we're like, oh, these two stars unfollowed each other. Let's watch the show and see if they have online chemistry or if it's gonna fizzle, you know? Like, I feel like that's. That's probably why. Or Kelsey, while the reading pie was like, he was cheating on you with me. And then she's like, I didn't know the timeline. Let me unfollow. That's my speculation.

[C]

Oh, that's.

[A]

What was my initial.

[B]

That's girl supporting girls, right?

[A]

Yeah. Right. Be like, you know what? Just so you know, he crossed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Crossed the bounds. Yeah. Is Kelsey still with him?

[C]

Huh? They got back together.

[A]

Oh. Something shady happened in that meetup. She's probably like, just so you know, because she want to make sure there was no competition anymore. Anymore. So maybe not girls born girl. Maybe she was like. Maybe she was like, I really want to sabotage this. Just so you know. Actually, I was actually talking to him when you were posting that birthday photo. You know what I mean? Like, something like that. Maybe she said she was pregnant and so she's like, okay. Respectful on Paulo. Speculation on this. I know none of these people. I'm speculating from afar. They all sound beautiful. All these people are beautiful people. This Chase Stokes, I have no idea what he was like. Does he look like Lucas Gage?

[C]

Tan white guy.

[A]

So kind of.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. They're all kind of just same hair color. Yeah, like that golden. Like blonde, light brownish.

[A]

And the girls are also two blonde girls.

[C]

Yeah, two tan, blonde girls.

[A]

Do you ever find it unrelated.

[C]

Unrelated. But this just keeps in my head.

[A]

Weird when people date someone that looks just like them. Like they could be brothers and sisters.

[B]

Oh, yeah. That's like gay guys do it all the time, right?

[A]

We like this or we don't. You don't like this. I remember when you look like your partner.

[C]

I. It does get for gays when they look identical. It is kind of weird. Even though people say me and Darian but look alike. But that, I think is racism. So two. Two Latinos, I can't play that card, but I'm pulling it. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

I don't. I don't think Dallas and I look a lot like he wears my clothes all the time.

[A]

And how do you feel about that?

[B]

You know, I'm like, oh, that's where that went.

[A]

But I don't mind the clothes sharing. Me and Moses share clothes, and that's fine. I think when it looks like you could, like, be related, it's a little, like, spooky.

[B]

Yeah. I think there's a, like, a Instagram follower threshold that Gay guys meet. When that starts to happen to them, I feel like, interesting because I know a lot of like, gay guys. Guys. Shocker. And I feel like they all. All like the gay guys I know in my personal life, like, all have their partners. They all look very different from each other.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz it just feels a little like narcissistic too, to be like, I need someone that looks just like me. Like.

[B]

Yeah, I could see that.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

I don't. I'm not. I don't love it, but. But you know, it be connected.

[A]

I just feel like all these couples, like, how come you just like all day, people that look like each other, like if they're all golden blondes.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. There was this one.

[A]

Tan skin, whatever, you know, I don't know.

[B]

There was this one gay couple and they were two, like, they. They did look a lot alike. They were two like kind of short, curly haired guys with mustaches. And they like posted a picture of like their spaghetti dinner night or something like that. And oh my God, it was like Twitter.

[A]

What happened?

[B]

Twitter's like characters of the day. Like they just were going in wait.

[A]

Because they looked like each other.

[B]

They looked alike. Yeah. And now people are like, you know, we need the update. Are they still together?

[C]

Because it was last Valentine's Day. Yeah. And people. It was one of those. It's kind of your worst nightmare where everyone zoomed in and pointed out like the plates, the dishes. Like they zoomed in on everything in the kitchen and pointed out more things.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Could you saw the couple in the photo? Because I remember this, but I thought it was just like, of the plates. But you saw a couple.

[B]

Yeah, they posted like a selfie of them two together, I think.

[C]

Yeah. Unless people like mirrors.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And like, they did look alike.

[A]

Give us an update.

[B]

They're both very handsome, but they did look alike.

[C]

One was big, one. One was taller.

[B]

Yeah, one was taller.

[A]

Well, someone has to be taller, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No one's taller than Moses over there. Moses is the tallest.

[B]

Although you and Cie thought I was like six, four or something.

[A]

Yeah. What are you? What is your height?

[C]

I'm 5 10.

[B]

Mo is taller than me.

[A]

Oh, okay. I don't know. You do seem tall, but.

[B]

Yeah, I think the short.

[D]

Short.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I have long legs.

[A]

Illusion.

[D]

The most legs in the room.

[A]

We love long. You have pretty long legs though too. Let's see some short shorts on you. No, you look great. You do look great. You know, I love your not sponsoring meundies Boxers that you wear. No affiliation. They don't want me to mention them. Actually, they're the best.

[B]

Yeah, I. I'm wearing them right now. It's all I wear.

[A]

Are these. Oh, underneath you Underneath, Yes.

[B]

I know. It looks like I'm just in underwear.

[A]

I thought these were meundies. I was like, okay, love that they're comfy and they hold it all in. Right?

[B]

You know, they're great if you sweat a lot too. I'm very sweaty person. Shout out, Alexa. Pro.

[A]

Oh, you think that makes you sweat?

[B]

Yeah, definitely.

[A]

I mean, that. That's a bad spot.

[B]

Not sponsored. Yeah, I mean, I'll take it over wanting to die.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Birkin's gone, as you said. No, it's fine. It's fine. It's okay. Just a $50,000 bag. Probably all the stones fell off.

[B]

That's an omen.

[A]

The death of the twink.

[B]

The hate is winning.

[A]

Try them on. It's like, oh, my gosh.

[C]

I have another relationship, One I'm a little scared to get into it. After the drama. Kiki Palmer said that she never wants to live with the romantic partner, even if they get married, because she likes her alone time. She said that she would be neighbors with her partner if she got married again, but she wouldn't want to actually live with that them. She said, I never want to live together. I like my alone time. And she said I would live around the corner. You can be in the guest house. We can be on the same land, but I'm over there and he's over there. And at best, separate rooms. And then she said, think about how fun it would be. Like, I'm going over to my man's house. Like, hi, husband. It keeps it fun and exciting. Like, I want to go sit on his couch.

[A]

You know, I don't hate it.

[B]

Both of my grandparents, did that really.

[A]

Say the older generation? Someone else said, like, oh, like, my parents always lived, like, separately.

[B]

My grandparents were together until they both passed away from, like, the 20 they were 20 until they were both in their 80s and they slept in separate rooms because one of them snored. And then they would both wake up at 5am every day and sit on the couch and talk all day and watch tv and then they go to bed separately.

[A]

Okay. Not to be on the Bert Kreischer side again, but him and his wife sleep separately because of that. He said he snores, and I don't know why he's on my timeline, you guys. I do not like Bert Kreischer. But I'm like, he's on there. And he's like, we sleep in separate beds because I snore. And. And I was like, oh, okay. Like, yeah, yeah. I guess if there's a snoring problem, like, that is. That is. Yeah.

[B]

My dad's dad and then his stepmom, who is like, really just my grandma. They. Different houses, different cities.

[A]

Oh, different.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I don't know if that's even married at that point.

[B]

I mean, he would. He would come down pretty often, but. Yeah, I mean, they would. They. She had a house, she didn't want to get rid of it. He had a house, he didn't want to get rid of it. And he would. He would drive down to the Bronx from Socrates.

[A]

Like, yeah, don't judge it. But I. I'm. I would assume I couldn't do it. Marriage has a higher chance of almost succeeding, actually, because it's like, you don't really see each other. So, Yeah, I couldn't do it either. Like, to me, I love, love, love sleeping in the same room.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It feels safe. Feels secure.

[B]

I snore. Shout out Dallas for dealing with that.

[A]

Do you wear a plug?

[B]

I need to get a cpap. I really do.

[A]

And he's fine with it. Like a sleep apnea mask.

[B]

Yeah, I. He. He's. He's like, no, you're gonna. It's gonna look scary.

[A]

Oh, well, turn your back. Just turn on.

[D]

Have you tried those things with, like, the magnets and things?

[A]

I do that?

[B]

Yeah. It's, like, not a perfect solution, but it does open up my nose a little bit.

[A]

Okay. What's the snoring caused by? What do you. I don't know.

[B]

It's. Sometimes it's genetic. Sometimes it's. It's weight. Sometimes it's all sorts of things.

[A]

Sometimes guys just snorm.

[B]

I snored since I was a twink, so I. I think it's genetic for me.

[A]

Been a thing.

[B]

Yeah. My dad snores everything, so.

[A]

Did you ever put in your twink picture of you in front of the friends?

[C]

No.

[B]

I can insert it.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. I watch wink. I was like, oh, my God.

[B]

The dark ages. Truly.

[A]

Death of a twink.

[B]

Yeah. Thank God. Thank God. Respect to the twinks out there. You don't have to die. No. Hate.

[A]

But I. That's so funny. I respect Kiki, honestly, because it's like, she's already been through with her ex, the person she had her baby with. Like, so I respect that for sure. It's like sometimes you just need the distance and sometimes you just need your own space. I get it. Yeah. There's just two types of people in the world. People who want to sleep next to their partner and people who just don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Maybe just hasn't met the right guy yet.

[B]

She is also like, she's really made such like a career and life for herself. Like, I can totally imagine. Like, I don't want this. Like, I don't want my stuff to kind of become your stuff, if that makes sense too. I, I understand being protective.

[A]

She's a child, so she's probably like.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Setting the, setting the boundary. I think I totally get it.

[A]

I, Yeah, I, I same. I feel like if you have a kid, if you have your own space, your own stuff happening. Yeah, I think it's probably a solution for.

[B]

Probably makes it a little bit more exciting too. It's like, oh, like I haven't seen you since like Monday and it's. It's Thursday now.

[A]

That is crazy. But yeah. Yeah, I guess there's people who are just like more codependent. I could never.

[B]

But I didn't like being long distance. When Dallas lives in Florida. We would, we would go like one week every, every month. We'd alternate and it was tough. It was tough. Especially during COVID because we didn't see each other for like five months. But so like once we live together.

[A]

I was just like, yeah, I just need to like see that person every day. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's. It's fun to have your best friend around.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. And not.

[B]

But I also, you know, I get.

[A]

It for sure, like need that space. Yeah, I guess. How about you?

[C]

Yeah, I like living with my partner. I would obviously just having more space would be great because we have like a one bedroom apartment. It's like really small. So we're just like always right next to each other. And then so I. That's when I think I'm like, okay, it would be nice. Like if I have to work, I have, have like another room to go in so I can like focus. Cuz if I'm like working from home and Darian's kind of bored, he'll like walk over. He's like, he'll just kind of like, you know, he'll just stand there and like look. And I'm like, hey, I hate that. I'm like, okay, keep it moving.

[A]

If I film something, I camos in the room, like a self tape or something. But you're the opposite. Like if you're filming A fish. I can sit right next, like I will, I'll sit like right next to him and just be on my phone because I'm like, I just want to be next to him. And then he just keeps going. And I was like, oh, okay.

[B]

That wasn't like when I'm around either. But like he, if he is filming something, it's usually other kinds of content or like asmr. So I guess he doesn't want the noise. But if he does like, if he does like a YouTube video or something.

[A]

That's why I minor my car because I'm like, I can't. It's also like a distraction thing. It's not like I care.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Too much, but it's like also a distraction. So I haven't like taverns are hard for me to do because Malboo always wants to come in the tavern with me.

[D]

That's okay.

[A]

And like don't want to like kick out your little three year old and be like, no, you can't come play for 10. So I don't do a lot of them. It's usually if she's sleeping or she's in them with me now. She's always wants to do it.

[D]

So yeah, when it was asmr, it used to be when she was napping.

[A]

Well, that's why I don't do ASMR at all anymore because it's just absolutely chaos in our house, which I love. I've been living in silence by choice for like not by choice, but it was just silent in my household for like 12 years. So it's like to have noise now is like so, so wonderful. I like love it. Cuz like when you live alone, I hated it. So. But anything Kiki says I, I, I agree with, I would just. She's kind of a queen. She kind of knows what's going on.

[B]

She's great.

[A]

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[C]

And you don't want to deal with the man child.

[A]

Sabrina, I love the transitions. Your transitions are so good. No, because who would want that? Not Sabrina Carpenter either.

[C]

So Sabrina, after performing Manchild at the Grammys got clocked by PETA, so we'll get it. I'll give my thoughts in a second, I guess. But so the story goes. In Sabrina's performance, she ends it by holding a dove, and she, like, is holding on to the feet of the dove as she, I guess, ends the performance. I forgot how even the dove was a part of it because she was working on an airline. I don't know where the dove happened, but it was gagging when she pulled it out. I was like, that's gorgeous. So.

[A]

Oh, you love the dove.

[C]

I thought it was sweet. Yes. And then there was a video of Sabrina backstage after her performance, and she revealed that the dove actually pooped on her. So she said, it's on my hand.

[A]

And then as birds do.

[B]

Yes, that's good luck.

[A]

Yeah. Yes.

[C]

But she got criticized for her treatment of the dove, I guess, having the dove in the performance at all. And then people thought that the fact that she was holding it by the feet and then the doves on her hand, that obviously that it must have been, like, stress or something because of the lights, the noise, and all that causing fear and distress.

[A]

Wait, who said that? PETA.

[D]

They need a pedo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They need to give the birds shout out.

[A]

I don't know if you can give that to birds. We should clarify.

[B]

You can't get a lot of stuff.

[A]

Yeah, I know my sister has a bird and it was.

[D]

But I'm saying we know people that get the anxious when, like, we understand why the bird.

[A]

Got it. Got it. Who said that about the bird?

[C]

There were some comments on her performance of people saying that. And then PETA's, I guess, statement. They posted the video of her talking about the bird pooping on her and said, did Sabrina Carpenter really bring a bird out on the stage in 2026? The ManChild singer is giving childlike behavior. Leave animals out of the Grammys. Hey, Sabrina. Bringing a live bird onto the Grammy stage is stupid, slow, useless, and cruel. Bright lights, loud noise, handling and handling cause fear and distress for a bird that belongs flying free in the open sky. Although it's hard to take PETA seriously. Jimmy, I don't know if you'll remember this, but when animal crossing was big in 2020, PETA released a statement. Because in the game, like, you catch fish and then they're in tanks. And PETA was like, I can't believe this game would put a shark in a tiny little tank. And in the video game, yeah, back.

[B]

In the day, they. They made a Pokemon spoof because they were Like Pokemon is like dog fighting or something. And they called it Pokemon Black and Blue.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Instead of black and white.

[C]

So it's hard to take them serious. I feel like they love a stunt shenanigans.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

A little too much.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. It.

[B]

It sucks because, like, I don't disagree. I like, I hate who it's coming from.

[A]

From.

[B]

But I also am, like, the best thing you could do is, like, not use an animal in your performance.

[A]

Sure. Maybe like AI or something.

[B]

Maybe not.

[A]

We hire artists or ll. Right. Or you can have like a little puppet of one.

[B]

Or they have drones.

[D]

They have like bird drones.

[A]

Okay, so alternatives to real bird. Yes. Love the idea. And yeah, we don't think about those things. I don't blame Sabrina. I wouldn't have thought about those things either. You know, to just.

[C]

Well, well, the bird's name also is Tina. I should clarify. Yeah. Shout out Tina. Tina's owner and handler ended up jumping into the comments to defend Sabrina, saying that they. We. We prepared for this for months. Tina is perfectly fine. Sabrina is a sweetheart and took the rehearsals very seriously. And the gag is Tina is actually invited to Sav's B Day party this year, which we are considering attending. But thank you all for your credit concern, Tina. I'm very jealous of the, like, you're living.

[D]

Their way. She'll be jobless and homeless and be back out on the streets. That is just awful hard for that money.

[A]

She loves the limelight. So what? Everyone does a nervous poop before a show. It's like, who cares? Like, it's not like, abuse because of that.

[C]

And someone also commented a replied to Sarah Brown, who is the handler, and asked about, like, how the. How Sabrina was holding. Holding Tina because she was kind of grabbing her by the feet. And she said that that is the way that Tina needs to be held because she has a disability.

[B]

So.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So no one knows, actually. Yeah, it does make sense.

[A]

So did this bird fly? I didn't see it. Did it fly?

[C]

She kind of just holds it and it kind of like flaps its wings a little bit, but that. That was it. Yeah.

[A]

She did good.

[C]

She got. She nailed the performance. She looked great. She was serving face. She was serving wing. And her and Sabrina looked great together on stage. I thought it was fun, fierce, but.

[A]

But they love to just be in the mix.

[C]

Yeah. So it is like, I do get again, kind of like what you said, Jimmy. Like, I don't. The message, I think in general, like, you know, don't use animals without, like, the proper care or like irresponsibly using animals and like for content. But I guess if they are used responsibly handled with care, the trainer is there.

[A]

Kind of like child actors, right? It's kind of like, yeah, you know, some can handle it. Some have the proper, you know, some love to do it. Some are. This is what I meant to do. And I feel like this bird is obviously turning out okay. Like she loves these opportunities. Like she's like doing birthday parties and stuff. Like, you know what I mean? I feel like it's the same or.

[C]

Like when the animals were here, like all those animals are used to be on camera, are used to being handled by like strangers and like they love like they do like it.

[D]

They like the rule is just you, no cruelty. Like you can't harm the animals. That's the only reason.

[A]

They're like not at all.

[D]

As long as you don't harm them. I thought Peter was coming for her because cuz what she did to the bunny, like she was lusting after.

[C]

Bad.

[D]

Bunny, that was a hot topic. What they should have gone with that. They would have gone viral.

[A]

And I'm so confused.

[D]

You didn't see Sabrina when Bed Bunny was on stage.

[A]

Oh, what? Okay, so she was like.

[D]

Absolutely everywhere.

[A]

That's everybody reaction to Bad Bunny.

[D]

Yeah, but Sabrina got the main.

[A]

Well, she's single, she can lick her lips to anyone she wants.

[C]

It reminds me of you like blinking when Kylie walked by and everyone being like, she looked up and down. She's like, my lips were sticking so I licked them to right?

[A]

She's like, let me just get this off real quick. That part. You're so bright people really just like.

[D]

Kylie walks by, the first thing you do is like, what is she wearing? Right? You're gonna look.

[A]

First of all, I didn't look at all. Like I mentioned in the pocket. I didn't even see her. Like I did not even see her.

[D]

So yeah, so like consider like she'll freeze. She's just like, okay. I don't want to be in anyone's way. So it's more like you did okay.

[A]

Because I did not see her.

[C]

It literally just looked like you blinked. Like your eyes just kind of like shut for a second. And then people like slowed it down enough to where it looked like.

[A]

Well, I probably am looking down as I did with Troye Sivan, as I do with everybody where I'm like, I'm a peasant. I can't look at any of these people in the face. Like that's probably me. I'm always just trying to not make eye contact.

[D]

You're afraid of eye contact?

[A]

Yeah, very much that I look down at everything. I'm like, I'm not gonna make eyes, like literally everybody. Even if I'm like a big fan. I like looked down.

[D]

I'm like, okay, I'm the opposite. I was like, I'm just like looking at everything.

[A]

Like even Moses was looking up and down. Okay, maybe that was it. Clocking her.

[D]

I was filming.

[A]

Ah, well, bad bunny is the moment. Super bowl this weekend. Who's ready for some football? Are we not doing a Super bowl party? What's happening? You're not going to go to one?

[B]

I haven't watched the super bowl in so long. I did skip school one time when the Giants won the super bowl bowl to go to their like victory parade. And then I was on the news and I was just like, I'm skipping school right now, but my sister's in school. Oh, and nobody knows. My dad brought me here and then one of the teachers like saw you on the news yesterday and I've tried to find that on YouTube for so long. Cuz there are old archives of like news footage and stuff, but I haven't been able to find it.

[A]

Did you get in trouble?

[D]

No.

[A]

Like, can you get in trouble for like not showing up to school?

[B]

I think only like if your parent doesn't call and say like, hey, my kid's not going to be there today. I feel like if otherwise it like it's.

[A]

Yeah. What are they going to do? Yeah, they interrupt today. Just send some homework back. I don't know there.

[C]

I mean you. At some point it does become illegal, but.

[A]

Well, I guess if you keep them out for like a year.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean there, there's truancy.

[A]

What's truancy?

[C]

The act of accumulating unexcused absences from education. So missing 10 of the school year.

[A]

Yeah. I mean I'm sure if you're sick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Probably could be out for a couple.

[C]

Months, I'm sure from medical.

[A]

In the hospital. Yeah, yeah, of course.

[C]

But yeah, you can get fined or put in prison. The parents can be fined or jailed, so.

[A]

Jailed. Yeah.

[C]

I don't know if you should be.

[A]

Oh my gosh. Okay, well get those kids in school. Oh my God, that's crazy. Well, that's good. As they should, I guess. They need their education.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They shouldn't be pulling you off or anything.

[C]

Is hot. Taught education is important. Education makes you a good, good person.

[A]

What song is this one?

[C]

That's a Cat's Eye Meme. That's Manon's. Oh, yeah.

[A]

It's a song.

[C]

She made a little jingle to encourage fans to stay in school.

[A]

Oh, I love that. We need more of that. We need more stay in school. I'm always just like, I'm doing a talk at a college soon, and I need to. I know I need to encourage that. Maybe I'll do that song. Educate. Education is important. Get that degree, whether it's AA or a BA Word. But those S's, those suck, right? BS or as, like the science ass. Yeah. Did you get a degree? No. Can I ask that? I don't know. I don't know what I can ask. You didn't go to college?

[B]

No, I didn't go to college.

[A]

Yeah, same. Okay, well, these two went to college.

[B]

We're talking out of college.

[A]

No, I feel like people should go to college. If you can, and if you have that desire, do it, do it. Although it is a lot of money. You could go in debt, so maybe don't. But that's another thing we need our congress to do. Our government.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So sorry, but they already did it.

[B]

If they're.

[A]

At least some student loans.

[B]

I think college should be free.

[A]

College should be. Education should be free.

[B]

I would go to school if it was free.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Because I just. I think I just hated homework and tests. I just like to, like, hear, like, I'd love to go to elections.

[A]

Right? Like, if you want to go. Yeah, I. I never want to go. My first week of college, I remember the professor, like, you guys are in college now. If you don't want to be here, you don't have to be. And I was like, oh, bye. Like, I'm leaving. And then I failed. But you should stay in college. I do. I respect college so much. When people at Mean Greets tell me they, like, just finished college, I'm like, damn, you're smart. Pretty impressive cameos. Matthew Morrison always encourages people to stay in college. I always see them pop up in my thing, and I'm like, I followed him the other day. Let me know if he's dubious. I don't think he is, but I. I wanted. I messaged him on the podcast, but is he dubious?

[C]

You said there was a thing on so youo think you can Dance where he, like, was trying to get with a contestant and that's. Why was it Joel Siwa that replaced him?

[A]

I thought they were on together. Why do I.

[C]

Maybe I know that he.

[A]

Oh, maybe you're right.

[C]

He did. I remember he got Like a DM or something.

[A]

Or like a thing like, hey, you did greater right. I don't know. Trying to defend Matthew Morrison, but they didn't have sex.

[C]

But he reached out to her through flirty direct messages on social media. She felt uncomfortable with this line of comments and went to producers who then got Fox involved, and he was fired after they did their own investigation.

[B]

Oh, yeah, don't come on the podcast.

[A]

Yeah. If you had an investigation and was released. Oh, all right. I'm so. I apologize for promoting Matthew Morrison on here. You know, like, it's like Nikki Blonsky. They become camp, and you're kind of like, oh, we love this. This is the Hairspray curse.

[B]

Oh, is he in the Hairspray?

[A]

Yeah, he was the original link. No, he wasn't the original. He was a link. Larkin on Broadway with Marissa. Jared Milker. He was very good. Not my link, though. I love Zac Efrona's link. He was so good. Did you watch Hairspray, the movie?

[B]

No, but I want to so bad. I've seen a bunch of clips. I love the Solita as Mrs. Turnblatt.

[A]

Yeah, that's my favorite character. I wish I could play. It's always print by a man, but I would love to play that role.

[B]

That'd be fierce. That'd be so fun.

[A]

Supposed to be coming back to Broadway, but we'll see.

[B]

Keep your eyes peeled, y'.

[A]

All. Oh, Mary, when you went there.

[B]

Yes, I did.

[A]

Who was your Mary?

[B]

Jane Krakowski.

[A]

Okay. Maya Rudolph is gonna be.

[B]

I know. I thought about if I'm back in New York at any time soon.

[A]

Yeah, it's gonna be so good.

[B]

Whenever I go back to New York, I'm gonna go see it again. Although it is gonna be touring, so I'm curious if there's gonna be, like, a. Like a. Like a outsider brought in for the tour or if it's gonna be someone else. Probably not.

[A]

I would assume just, like, an actor from New York.

[B]

But maybe the script is just so good, though, so I'll watch it from whoever.

[A]

I would do the tour.

[B]

God, that would be amazing.

[A]

I don't know if I could do the tour. Maybe I could do the tour if my whole family come with me. That seems like a lot, but maybe.

[B]

It was so good.

[A]

Our Beetlejuice was on tour with his family, so it's possible. Just bring everyone with you, I guess.

[C]

But to circle back to what's his name? Mr. Shue. I forget what's his name.

[A]

And then my favorite meme.

[C]

He did read the Message.

[A]

My message.

[C]

How do you know the one that got him fired.

[A]

Oh, he read it. That's his performance. I write a show. He's like, here's the message.

[C]

He says, because I to be, you know, in the. In for the sake of journalism. His side of the story was his. The message that he sent was, hey, it's Matthew. If you don't mind, would love to get your number and talk through some things.

[A]

Things.

[C]

The end. He said, I sent this because the dancer and I share mutual respect for a choreographer that I have known for over 20 years, and I was trying to help her get a job as a choreographer on the show. It's devastating that we live in this world where gossip rules and people's lives are being thrown around as clickbait. I think this is much bigger than me. This story, gossip is toxic, and it is destroying our society.

[A]

Oh, no. I kind of believe him now. Where do we believe? I go back and forth if that's all he said. That seems not so flirty. Yeah. Maybe it's inappropriate to ask for a phone number.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's the part. I think that's the phone number part. I do think that. I do think that, like, ask. Asking for a phone number is, like, kind of like, maybe not as much now. Now it's like, follow me on Instagram. Because, like, people don't.

[A]

I always do an Instagram. I'm always like, here's an Instagram.

[B]

But I feel like for decades, it was like, can I get your number? Like, ooh, you know?

[A]

So I get. She felt a little uncomfortable.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Fair enough. I believe the girl. Who am I questioning? Always the girl for this. So sorry. Matthew Morrison.

[C]

And he doesn't, like, show the DM like he reads it.

[A]

Yeah, well.

[C]

But he doesn't show a screenshot, which I'm like, let's see.

[A]

No, you don't want to see a scroll video.

[C]

Yes, that's what I want.

[A]

Because, you know, you can screenshot, too. And cut off.

[C]

Yeah, I'll James Charles, like, you know, leaving things out, you know, so. But just reading it, you can't just read it. You got show to show it. No more lies.

[A]

What is that from?

[C]

I think that was the video. Yeah. Oh, yours is just Tati Dumb as Hell.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, okay. Yes, that was. That was a good one. Tati Dumb as Hell. I apologize for that. I was probably a little too much.

[C]

Well, back to Super Bowl, I guess.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Kendall Jenner got called out by her ex, Devin Booker, when she was talking about her super bowl ad about the Kardashian curse. She was on the Tonight show with Jimmy Fallon and they had a whole bit about, like, her Kardashian curse thing. And. What was her. I forgot what a super. About what her Super Bowl I was even for. I think it's fanatics, which is like Tom Brady's company.

[A]

Because it was like, a betting one.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because she, like, even FaceTimed, like, Tom Brady in. In the interview and stuff, too, which.

[A]

They'Re really trying to make Tom Brady happen.

[B]

I hate it.

[A]

It's over, right? He's retired.

[C]

Yeah. He's just like a calm commentator. A sports commentator now or whatever. I. I really. Whatever. Not even Alex Earl.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Nor Kendall. But anyway, she got. Jimmy asked her, like, who she's going to be rooting for for the super bowl, and. And she. She made a little joke that was like, I'm going to pick the underdogs, the Patriots, and are they, like, the winner?

[B]

I think they've won, like, the most Super Bowls.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

And they're going against the Seattle Seahawks.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And then so this got clips on Instagram and Devin Booker, her ex boyfriend, commented on it and said, I bet a million the Seahawks get the ring before you do. Kendall J. Jenner.

[A]

What? Who's Is he still play? Devin Booker?

[C]

He is. I think he plays basketball.

[A]

Oh. He doesn't even go there. Not even on the same sport. Like, why does he care? That's so crazy.

[C]

Yeah, he plays. He plays for the Suns. So, yeah, it was like, why are you so, like, heated? Why are you so in this? I think he thought that the joke was gonna eat and everyone's gonna be like, oh, yeah. But everyone was like, oh, what?

[A]

Like, I don't get it.

[D]

Everyone.

[A]

I was like, what?

[C]

Yeah, everyone's like, this is so, like, out of left field. Very out of pocket.

[A]

Not funny. It just sounds like a weird comment.

[C]

It sounds kind of mean, like, it didn't work out with her and now you're gonna say, like, she's never gonna get engaged or, like, find happiness. Like, that is so weird from a guy, too.

[A]

It's like, that's your.

[C]

Oh, my God. She was literally. His name did not come up in this segment at all. Not even the same sport that he played. It's so weird.

[A]

He's just mad. What did he leave the comment under? It was under the.

[C]

It was under clip on Instagram of that moment of her saying she's rooting for the Patriots, which, like, again, why are you chiming in as if she Personally slided you. I could see if she was like being shady to him or anything, but he literally had nothing to do with it.

[A]

But even then, it's still like an ick for a guy not to be like that person, but like a guy doing that. Like you're weird. Like it's.

[C]

Yeah. So weird to bring it up. Like no context at all. They also, I think they broke up like over almost two years ago too. So it's not even like recent. Kind of weird.

[A]

Broke his heart. She probably dumped him, I'm assuming from that.

[C]

And yeah, because they broke up this in 2022. Then they ended up trying to get back together in 2024. And then they were con though they like never confirmed that they were back together. And then by December, Kendall was rumored to be dating someone else. So she like moved on. But Kendall commented back, which I kind of live for. She said, how's the ankle? Cuz he sprained his ankle.

[A]

They need to get with us on Texas. I think. I think this is a crazy thing to put on Instagram, but I love that she's just falling up.

[B]

What I want to know is there like a straight guy on her team that told her to say that? Because like, you know how it's like, who's the gay intern that came up with it? I feel like it's the opposite. Yeah, the gay guys on her team would have known. What the hell?

[A]

I don't know either. Is it public knowledge or do you think this was something she just knew where? She's like, I'm going to ask him how his ankle is publicly or did we know that he's been out? Like, you know, just so many questions.

[C]

Oh yeah, I guess it was news in the sports world. Devin Booker leaves game due to ankle injury. He broke it live on. Live in the game.

[A]

So maybe she like has angle like, you're not even playing. Like, I'm a player. I'm still playing like you're on the bench.

[C]

She also added the eye roll emoji too.

[A]

Oh, well, that adds a lot more context to it. I thought she was being nice. Like, how's that ankle doing? She was like, how's the ank? Non player player. Yeah.

[C]

But then Devin replied to that and said, come rub it.

[B]

Ew.

[C]

So weird.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like this.

[B]

You ruined it.

[A]

Killed it. Kill the meme, kill the joke. Yeah, go on the stressless podcast. Shameless. What is the one?

[C]

Smart.

[A]

Smartless Be funny.

[D]

Just the two people. Both of them have social media people that are basically having this fight, the conversation between them.

[B]

Yeah, they have. No, maybe they'll end up.

[D]

They'll end up getting together.

[A]

Very Brittany Furlan with the Ronnie Racky catfish.

[D]

Oh, that a. Was one.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Last time. That's on your Hot Topic Last time. Because we didn't say that. They found who it was.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Who was it?

[A]

Oh, me and Moses had this reveal. I revealed it to you, right? Did I know it first or you knew about it?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I walked into the room, she's like, reveal.

[A]

I was like, they found out who the Ronnie Ratky catfish was legally. They had a, like, subpoena. Yeah.

[C]

All these app.

[A]

Yeah. The IPs of it all.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

The person was in Thailand. Thailand?

[D]

A woman from Thailand.

[A]

A woman in Thailand was behind the Ronnie Radke account. So it was not Ronnie Radkey. It was not Brittany Furlan. It was a woman in Thailand.

[C]

So a woman was. Wait, so a woman in Thailand was catfishing as Ronnie to Brittany. What?

[A]

Which we all suspected it was a catfish. Yes. But some people were like, maybe it's Britney. But then a lot of people thought Brittany. Not a lot of people. Brittany thought it was Ronnie for sure because she came back in 2026, was like, It's Ronnie. I have proof. And then the detectives were like, we have proof. It is a. In fact, a woman in town.

[C]

So they're both kind of innocent.

[A]

They're innocent. But then Britney would double down and was like, it's definitely Ronnie.

[C]

Oh, even after this on 2026, that's.

[A]

What came back around.

[D]

No, no. Yeah. I mean, right before this, it came back again. But then even claim that somehow this person is helping Ronnie and some people.

[A]

It'S like, yeah, so. But it was at this point, not Ronnie and stuff. Yeah.

[B]

The concept of targeting Brittany Furlan when, like, I don't. I don't. Like, no shade. I don't know if she's even like, that known in, like, America.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

Agreed to be, like, a global name and target. Like, what was their goal? Like, to get money?

[A]

No, no, I think. I think this person just has this account and just like, talks to people online. I don't. I think it. She is just like a random person to this person. Because. I agree with you. Like, what is the point? Because she gave, like, an address, like, Ronnie's old address. And, like, that's where Britney showed up. So she, like, drove to this old address and showed up to this house and was like, where are you? And then. Yeah, I never get that either. Catfishes then just stop. And then that's it. And it's like, what was the whole point of that? I guess just that they're bored.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it wasn't money. There was no money exchange. Asking for money. Nothing.

[C]

Maybe she. She, like, liked her. I mean, maybe she's. Oh, yeah. Maybe she's a lesbian and, like, has a crush on her and thought the.

[B]

Way to that was catfish. A lot is like, queer people who, like, you know, it's a gay guy doesn't know that he's gay, but he's always talking to men.

[A]

And under, like a woman's picture.

[B]

Yeah. Sometimes. Or just like, as a different gay guy.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It didn't feel romantic. Like, I was looking at the. Maybe. I don't know. I guess I didn't go too deep in the conversations. Maybe.

[B]

Was Britney like, so I don't know. Was she trying, like, she was like, yes, I was unfaithful. Unless her tommy are open, she's like, yes, I was unfaithful. But also it was real. Like.

[A]

Yeah. She said she was going through a stressful time in her marriage.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And yeah, I guess like, in her defense or her. The way she says it's like they never met up. So there was no, like, infidelity. But yeah, she was definitely.

[D]

No, but if you talk to somebody in that way and you're.

[A]

Well, the plan was to meet up, like, right. She's like, the catfish. Like, here's the address. Come to my house. And she did drive to the house.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So she did have the intention. I mean, that is kind of wild. That is kind of wild. Like, I couldn't imagine talking to someone.

[B]

That'd be so scary if it. Like, if she actually went there and the catfish was there at the address. Like, that's so. That's scary. Scary. I feel like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Always meet at like a cafe or something. And then you go somewhere else.

[A]

I guess if you're like, having an affair, though, that's true.

[B]

I guess there would be paparazzi for both.

[C]

Go to a Coldplay concert.

[B]

Oh, that is good idea.

[A]

Normal person go there. That's true. A concert would be a good place to meet. Yeah. Yeah. It was a big reveal. I guess we didn't talk about that for a while, but that was shook. I was gagged. I was like, well. And then it kind of just died, I suppose. I don't know if Brittany, like, did a follow up, so.

[B]

Oh, she hasn't done a follow up.

[A]

Shed.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I kind of want to know, like, her thoughts. Her thoughts on.

[A]

I'M sure they've given it. I'm sure they've given statements. Each of them, they love to have a response. They don't want this to die. You know what I mean?

[C]

So it's a halter top for them.

[A]

It is the halter top. I was more invested in the Ronnie Rat Key Brittany Furlong catfish because I feel like I had some sort of involvement at some point on the outskirts of all of this.

[C]

Do you. Do you think it was the same Thai lady who catfished you or no.

[A]

Ah.

[B]

How long she's been doing this?

[A]

Because it was going to a show. Like, here's my address. Here's the show. And then Ronnie being like, I don't know who this person is.

[C]

Like, similar, like, Internet personality, Like, bombshell sexy. Wow.

[A]

I love being in the same category. Well, yeah, I hear maybe. What if she was? That's like a horror movie. Like, targeting social media. Girls with running race picture.

[B]

Yeah, I think you cracked the code.

[C]

That is crazy.

[A]

I was that right there with you, Britney. Well, I wasn't married to Tommy Lee or married at all, but I did show up. I did drive out of my way to go, where's the Arizona? Or something to see him.

[C]

How crazy. We need that lady here.

[A]

Do we?

[B]

So why did you, of all people.

[D]

She'S going to target you now. Like, you don't want to be.

[C]

I wonder how. What would work? See, honestly, the gag is to catfish me. If it was like, ray, it's Chapel. Yes. It was like, if it was a diva. Addison.

[A]

Ray Chapel.

[C]

It's like, hey, I saw your segment. I saw your segment defending me at the Grammys. Like, I really. I'd be like, thank you, Addison.

[A]

Like, of course.

[C]

She's like, this is my burner account. This is my fina. And I just wanted you to know, like, I really appreciate.

[A]

I would fall for. For it. I would fall for it. Probably me too. Huh?

[B]

I had some lady messaging me that she was my cousin.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

For, like, weeks. I was just ignoring it. But then she started showing up in my Twitch chat, and I was like, okay, maybe it is.

[A]

Did you ever follow up? I don't know. What if it's actually your cousin trying.

[C]

To get a hold of you?

[A]

You're just like, bye.

[B]

I kind of just. I don't know.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

I like to investigate a little, I guess.

[B]

I don't know.

[D]

Yeah. But that's when it started. They're like, oh, there's an inheritance and I need your help to get it.

[B]

I'm like, well, I don't. I'm not rolling like that. Anyway, so if you're looking for money, try some of my cousins.

[A]

Like, that is so funny. I had one. I had one the Gerard Way after I met him. I remember I got a lot of catfishes after that. Like, emails being like, this is Gerard. Like, it was so nice to meet. But him. But one person did ask for money because I took time away from his rehearsal, and so he needed that money to cover the rehearsal time that I took away when I met him. He's like, hey, it's Gerard.

[B]

He's like, I'm hurting.

[A]

Yeah. He's like, let me. Lovely meeting you. I actually need.

[D]

Can you spend money.

[B]

The Hollywood bowl check is not cleared, please.

[A]

They're like stadiums. They were just in PERU. Play, like, 80,000. But yes, it was very much like, we need 500 to cover the 30 minutes that you took away from our time. And I was like, for a minute. You know, you always do want to check. You always go to the At. You're like. Because it was like Gerard Way. It was like Gerard Way at like, Yahoo. But as a Yahoo person, I know I have a Yahoo account, but. But, you know, it's probably not that. And I was like, I don't think he'd have his own name anyways. I hope not. That would be crazy, though. Like, what if he wouldn't?

[D]

I don't think you know how much it cost him to be there for that hour.

[A]

Exactly. And I know the place. Yeah. Anyways. Anyways. And the PayPal was like, dot CZ or something. It was like, one of those ones that you're like, oh, that's not really a real PayPal. It's very sus. I don't fall for a scam.

[B]

I got scammed. A couple years ago, this person, they claim to work for this video game called League of Legends, and they reached out to me. They're like, hey, Jimmy, like, I love your videos, love your streams and everything. We're coming up with this new character that we want you to voice. And I was just like, omg, no way. Like, this is everything I've ever wanted in life. And I. Like. He sent me a script, and I should have known it was fake because it was riddled with, like, spelling mistakes and. And everything. He sent me, like, an NDA, which I'm breaking because it's not real.

[A]

He sees you after this.

[B]

I'm like, he had, like, a LinkedIn, and I didn't. I was like. I was 18, so I didn't know, you could just like make up whatever you want on LinkedIn. So it was like I worked at Riot Games for xyz, so I was like, oh my gosh, like, this is so crazy. And he sent me concept art and whatever and it was this whole thing. He was like, yeah, we're gonna fly you out. It'll be a flat fee of $100,000. And I was just like, no way. Like, this is so crazy. It's gonna change my life. And. And then it was like weeks were going by, was getting closer to like the April date that I was supposed to fly out for, not April 1st. It wasn't elaborate joke on you, but he just like was not responding to me. And then I like talked to one of my friends about it because I was just like, I didn't. I was like, I signed an NDA. Like, I don't know if I could tell it anybody, but I told my friends and he was just like, Jimmy, like, he like reverse image search like the art and it was like fan art of like a different character from another game. It was like, it was this whole like, ruse and like, why do people do that? I think this person was unwell because I eventually like went to their Facebook and I like, I just kind of could tell from like their posts and like just things pictures like, oh, like I think maybe they like have some.

[C]

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[B]

Issues and they don't understand the system.

[A]

Nothing going on.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know.

[A]

It is crazy. But then there are those times like you remember when I thought the euphoria like season two. You remember I got that email and they're like, we want you to audition. I think I talked about on here too. They're like, we went to audition for Euphoria and it was like literally just again my Yahoo account, I was like, okay. And it was like a plus size content creator. Anyways, I thought it was like a scam, but people said because they watched season two and they're like, oh, it's in whatever who's the character Barbie Ferrer plays? Do we know her name? Cat. It's in, like, Cat's Dream or something. Like an influencer talking about body positivity or, like her nightmare or something. So it, like, was a real role. And then I ended up getting Euphoria season three. So I was like, well, maybe that was real. Also. The moment just came to email. Like, do you want to come to this? And you're like, I guess you would assume there's scams. I guess. I guess you never know. I guess the thing to watch out for is that they ask for money. Right. Obviously I was like, gerard Way's not asking me for money and.

[D]

Or information.

[A]

Or information. Yeah, right, right, right. That's a good one, too. Never give out information. Know if it's from me too. It's not like, I think any influencer. A good rule of thumb is, like, they're not asking for money because, like, I see a lot of people get halter top.

[C]

Yeah, you beat me to it.

[A]

That's tea. If that's real, I want to get to the bottom of it that we need investigators.

[B]

I have been so, like, it tickles me every. Between this and not Loveline. I've heard about this halter. Every single business hour of 2026, I've heard about this damn ugly ass halter tonight. I can't get enough.

[C]

We got a subpoena. Who do we subpoena?

[A]

Instagram Meta. We need these. We need these records. Who started this account? I'm so. I'm so fascinated because I'm sure it's fake. I'm sure it's fake because, like, there's just no way. She had, like, a random person in her DMs and she's, like, talking to her, and it was a nurse. And then this whole thing, like, I just don't believe it. But I love it. I love the entertainment value of it all. We were seated for it. And that halter top is everywhere. They're both good scandals. Ronnie Rackey and the Halter top scandal were great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm sorry you didn't get your. But maybe this will manifest though. Someone really love it.

[B]

I would love it. I really want to take it seriously this year.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Make a demo reel.

[C]

And do they have, like, an email domain? Because that's the other thing. I always look.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, I don't remember. But I. I still have all the correspondence from, like, 2016.

[A]

That's a good rule of thumb is like, if it'[e-mail] or something.

[C]

Because I got one from Gymshark. It was like a. Like, we want to collaborate with you. And I was like, what? And then I. That's. At first I believed it, but I checked the domain and it was like a really random domain. I'm like, I think Gymshark would [e-mail].

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

So, yeah, so check domains, people.

[A]

Those are all good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Good ways. When in doubt, just think it's a scam. Because also too, if I'm like, that's how I. Yeah, like, if it is real. But they'll get you even sometimes. Like, give me been. Sometimes you just never know. But you got to follow up to make sure those opportunities are out there.

[B]

There are real ones.

[A]

Yeah, there are real ones.

[B]

There are real ones.

[A]

There's few and far between. Verify. Check them out. Double verify.

[C]

There's an update coming to Instagram soon.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[C]

That you can remove yourself from someone's close friends list. And I don't know if this works the same for straight people, because I know for gay people it's very different. Although not for me. Like, for me.

[B]

Yeah, me neither.

[C]

Like, okay, I thought maybe you would have the other side of it because there's a whole concept around, like, when gays add other gays their close friends, that it's going to be like thirst traps, hold pics, etc. Yeah.

[B]

Like you will. And if you are a gay guy or follow gay guy, if you see that green circle, there's like probably a 50, 50 chance it's either pole or whole.

[A]

Oh, it is. Oh, it's real.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, that's the whole thing. No pun intended.

[B]

But.

[C]

But for me, it's mostly just. It's like the opposite. It's just like people posting stuff that goes against their brand or whatever. I think the biggest example is me was I was at the Cat's Eye concert, just waiting on at Instagram. And then Jonah, your backup dancer, had me on his close friends. And Darian's like, you're on Jonah's close Friends.

[A]

And then I'm like.

[C]

And then I. I'm like, okay, let's see. So I put it in front of him and Jonah was, who is like, just a hot tick. Like, his whole TikTok is like thirst traps. And his close friend sword story was like, I love when my students come see me dance. And it was like, so wholesome. It was so pure. I'm like, this is the. This is the close friends. Or like me when Ted Nivison added me to his Close friends. I was like, what is Ted Nivison about to be posting on here? And it was just like him on vacation. Like it was the Eiffel Tower or something.

[A]

Do you think they put everybody in their close friends?

[C]

I think people put people they actually know in real life.

[B]

That's what I do. Anything, any, like, family or like friends that I'm like, I'm gonna post the restaurant I'm at. I posted a close friends because I don't want people to know where I'm at or like, if I'm going through something in my personal life, I'll. I'll post like, hey, just an update. Like, blah, blah. I'll post the close friends because it's like, oh, I just want the people in my life to know. But, you know, I'm not complaining if I get added to the green circle.

[A]

And you love a green circle.

[B]

I think it's fun, you know, you.

[A]

Want a little hole. I feel like I'd be like, it's.

[B]

Kind of exciting to see, like, the green circle.

[A]

I opened you too many stories and I. Yeah, that'd be too scarred.

[C]

My problem with close friends is I always forget what people post to close friends and what people post publicly. So Harry, Daniel and Harry Daniels loves a close friend's tale. Adam McIntyre as well, too. Like, they'll post and like, in real time. Like, they're real, like, debauchery, like their fun stuff that they would tell the key with the girls with. And then I forget. And then I'm a boy here with a microphone, so I do forgot. I have to think sometimes, like, wait, was that close friends or was that at like a public Instagram story? So I don't use it.

[A]

Like, you know, I get it mixed up.

[C]

Yeah. So it doesn't look, I don't get like the cool way of like, oh, I'm gonna be posting Poland. I get the girls.

[A]

What's on your guys's close friend story to your house? Yours?

[C]

Yeah, I don't have a close friends at all. I don't even post. And I'll. I'll take the screen recording where it says no close friends.

[A]

But I have no close friends either.

[C]

Because I don't ever post that much.

[A]

So I'm gonna post to everybody. If my close friends can know. Everybody should know. That's how I like. There's not ever a thing where I'm like, oh, only close friends should know this. The opposite. It's like, well, I don't actually want you to know. If I know someone in Real life. I'll probably block them for my story because I'm like, I don't want you to know this.

[B]

I miss Twitter circles. I loved it.

[A]

Twitter circles?

[B]

What is that? It was basically close friends, like, for Twitter. Like, you could tweet to only specific people, which I really liked because I was like, I mean, I didn't post anything crazy online for that.

[C]

I love it. Jimmy tweets, like, dance like nobody's watching. Tweet like you're Jimmy Wetzel. Because Jimmy Wetzel will be like, hey, everyone, I'm changing my dosage on my medication today. I'll let you know how it goes.

[A]

You are changing my close friend.

[C]

Yeah. It's like he will literally just stream a consciousness. That's why I'm like, what would you post in circles? Cause you tell the world just about anything.

[A]

Wait, you still tweet like that?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Somebody in my chat yesterday, they were like, they could make a documentary about you, and it would not even cover half the. You give away for free on here.

[A]

Do you still post like that?

[B]

Yeah, I don't care. Do I follow you?

[C]

He has two accounts, though, so I usually tweet.

[B]

I have my Jimmy Wetzel one, but I am like.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I get stressed out about the follower count on there. So I. I'm on at jimbyvivo. And that is my, like, side account.

[C]

Where I, like, stream of consciousness.

[B]

Yeah, a little bit more. Stream of consciousness is where I post, like, a little gym pic, and I just kind of like Kiki with, like, my. My stream audience and stuff on there, too.

[C]

He'll spill everything. After the WB tour, his haul. I was like, oh, this is what I got. The WB tour.

[A]

I almost.

[C]

I picked this up. I almost went back and got this. But then I considered, and I was like, it was missing this character from the. From the group picture. So actually, I didn't get it, but maybe if I go back next time, I'll end up getting like, yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Did you ever do a little haul.

[B]

Just on Instagram stories? And then I got my. My Warner Brothers sweatshirt.

[A]

Oh, I wanted to get one.

[B]

They were really soft. They're really good.

[A]

We gotta go back. I need.

[C]

I want.

[A]

There was one in yellow.

[B]

I feel like you could probably just be like, can I just go to the store?

[A]

I should. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you probably can, right?

[C]

You're an employee, so that is true.

[A]

Employee discount. Oh, yeah, that's what I got. Oh, I forgot about that. I got a White Lotus Spa. And then we Got.

[B]

Oh, the photos. I gotta get a frame.

[A]

Yeah, there it is. Just a couple friends hanging out on the couch. Oh, and big bang. The lighting is so atrocious. I always light it like that.

[B]

You look like Jeff the killer.

[A]

Oh, my God. It's like everyone's just spotlight and like, it's like so scary. I don't know. What did you get? Is yours in there? Moses? Your little thing? Did you get anything?

[D]

Cup. I showed my cup.

[B]

The bag is really cute. I'll have to send.

[A]

It was really cute. I got a little journal. You know, I love a white L journal.

[B]

That's really pretty.

[A]

You know, I'm on my travel.

[B]

It looks like a Bible.

[A]

Bible for sure.

[B]

Bible in the drawer of the hotel.

[A]

My. I actually, I think my French audition went good on Monday that they asked me to do more of my French accent today. So in between you guys, I was up at like 7am to glam today. Like, no, I was about like 6am to glam today because I had to do a Beatles. I had to dress like John Lennon and no, I'm Paul McCartney today. Okay. So I did that first Barry Keogan tea. Yes. Pascal.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Barry Hogan's Ringo star. They all look great, by the way. I'm very invested in this Beatles. I'm a Beatles.

[C]

You're gonna be in it.

[A]

I just got to do a Beatles photo shoot.

[C]

I'm not saying Gracie Abrams, hold on to your man, honey.

[A]

We met on that and I was like, you'd be good for the Beatles. So I did a Beatles photo shoot. Then before we did the no Hey. I had to do my self tape where they requested more of the French actress. French improv. I had to do a little French improv with a French accent. So bilingual. Yes. Yeah, it was pretty. It was pretty intense. And then we did the no hate after. But I was glad that they wanted a little more. I hope it won't get. I think it went good. Major was like, great. It was great. I was like, okay.

[C]

Oh, Netflix, excellent investigation.

[A]

Oh, you. You never know.

[C]

And maybe you should go method and do a whole episode in your French accent.

[A]

I could do it. I don't know if I could, honestly.

[B]

The French accent, That's a good idea. Get a beret.

[A]

I'm telling you, I am manifesting France. France is happening. There's a lot of France stuff going on. So just. Just know that's out there. That's out there in. In the world. So I'll see you soon.

[C]

France Gaggetts.

[A]

Clockette. What's A good name, like a baguette, but a gag at.

[C]

Yeah, Like. Like Zara Larson of the Grammys. Everyone was like, oh, I know. She sold out that French bakery because she bought all the gaggets.

[A]

That's a good one. Who came up with that? Twitter. See, Twitter is good for some things. The actual. I guess. I love that. Sarah Lawson is amazing. She is beautiful and perfect. We love you. We almost got her on. Can we say that we almost had her?

[C]

Yeah. We were close, but scheduling and stuff, I think New York stuff.

[A]

I was going. I should have canceled New York. Done it.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Now it always happens to us. And then they get, like, so big. Not that she wasn't big before, but I feel like we've crossed the threshold.

[C]

Yeah. We give it a try again.

[D]

Well, maybe she'll be there when you receive your award. The Heart I Heart Radio.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

It was worth it.

[A]

Radio awards.

[C]

We should go canvassing. Like, go door to door.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And do what?

[B]

Tell people.

[A]

Get their phones out. Take your phone out.

[C]

Oh, my God. I. That literally took me back. I forgot. In high school, I had a canvas for no Hate.

[A]

No way.

[C]

Yes. I forgot. We had to do community service. And so me and my friend Rebecca, like, went to Pasadena and we went. Yeah. We canvassed with no Hate. Be like, we are here to tell you about Proposition 8. Please vote no. And, like, they would assign, like, a little clipboard or something.

[A]

Did you go with your marker on your face? Really? That would have been it. Oh, my God. You were ahead of your time or you were in the time. We're behind the time, I guess. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It was a great campaign. I bring it back. Sean Hayes, get the. Those boys on Smartless.

[B]

They. They really need to bring back the Hillary Duff commercials, too.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Or you should.

[B]

You should just start making them.

[A]

I would love to. I. Hillary Duff is back, though, so I think she's reclaiming her song and her true homophobic. Anti homophobic campaign.

[B]

She's reclaiming her homophobia.

[A]

She's doing. It is such a hard thing to describe. I'm like, what is it? It's anti homophobic.

[B]

Anti anti gay.

[A]

Yeah, anti. She's doing a world tour. She has announced it. She has taken over, and she's performing what Dreams are made of Everywhere. And I was like, oh, I guess I should probably stop performing that song. I was the filler until she came back.

[B]

Well, I mean, if you could do Shallow and Gaga lets it slide.

[C]

I feel like same with Pink Pony Club.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And Chapel, you know, still did the interview. So she wasn't. Yeah, she wasn't offended. Yeah.

[A]

She didn't say anything about it.

[C]

It's kind of like drag. No, like, you know, drag queens go and cover songs. You're similar.

[A]

That's true.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I am a drag queen.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Always, for sure.

[B]

Makeup and wigs. Every episode.

[A]

Once this makeup off, I am a different person. I am not me. I'm the bald and the beautiful, kind of.

[B]

Have you done a bald on this? Because I know you've done John Locke.

[A]

God, I feel like I just did a bald one recently, did I not?

[C]

I don't think so.

[B]

That'd be so fierce. Full bald episode.

[A]

Are you sure? I didn't do one recently, I swear. Because I was talking about the John Locke, and I was going, did you? No. I guess we would remember.

[C]

I feel like. Yeah, Especially Jim.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right.

[B]

I feel like. Can I get that headshot?

[A]

That's the next headshot.

[B]

Look, my diva wall.

[A]

I know. I feel like I did something. Maybe not, maybe I didn't. The bald looks a little crazy, I guess. Jim, Oscar did it. You did bald? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That was it. Yeah.

[B]

I loved it. I thought it looked so good.

[A]

I do love. I. I, like, love a bald moment. For sure. I can appreciate it. I don't know if I look good.

[B]

That's Brad. You and Charlie love the ball.

[A]

That's true. Yeah. He was kind of like her bodyguard that night, too. He was, like, at the after party. I didn't see him, but I saw that on video. He was, like, kind of pushing people aside. Not pushing people, but, like, guiding her into the car. I love that.

[C]

I guess gay news, that's a good transition.

[A]

We love gay news.

[C]

Grand grander. Grindr is testing a new AI subscription called Edge that costs up to. To $6,000 per year or $500 a month. It's an AI subscription tier that has been piloted in Australia and New Zealand, and it's now starting to roll out in the US So they're doing. They're trying out different pricing points from $80 a week or up to $499 a month. And it's supposed to include AI tools to discover tailored maps, matches, insights for compatibility signals before you message, and a list to resurface past conversations. And I'm here to tell you that if you need $6,000 to have sex, you're doing it wrong. Because gays will have sex with just about anything. You got them at the right time. At like peak horny hours. Anyone will. Yes. Literally go cruise, mama. You'll be okay. Save yourself. That's a mortgage payment.

[A]

But what is. What is it? What are you getting for 6,000? Maybe you're getting a primer hole. Maybe. Maybe. Right. Like, it's like a little cleaner, you know? You know, I don't know. There is. What are you getting?

[C]

You just have like more access. Like you have AI tools that help say, like, oh, this is going to be a better match for you or whatever.

[A]

6,000 is a little crazy.

[C]

6,008 for a year subscription. Yeah, I kind of, I guess similar vibes. Like Hinge like the roses or something to help like boost you.

[B]

Yes. I feel like it is a rite of passage for all homosexuals to deal with the. The dungeon that is Grinder and all that comes with it.

[A]

The.

[B]

The messages from headless 65 year olds that are just like, hey. And you're like.

[A]

Did you ever respond to a hang? No.

[B]

No, I didn't. I wasn't. I was. Wasn't big on Grindr just because where I was living, it was a lot of like DL 65 year old dads. And I was just like, I'm not not signing up for this personally.

[A]

Good for them for a.

[B]

All my dates were through Tinder. Personally. Guys, back in the day, we're not.

[A]

Getting that Grinder nomination this year.

[C]

Yeah. I was a Grindr user.

[A]

Okay. Positive Grinder experience.

[C]

Yeah. I did have whatever it's the 9.99 or it was back then.

[A]

You paid the 10?

[C]

Yeah. I think now it might be 20 or something.

[A]

For what?

[C]

For the. I guess, like no apparent ads and like to see more people. Like you saw. I don't know what it is now. Like, I think you saw double or triple whatever you could usually see. So just like more options.

[A]

Okay. Was it worth it?

[C]

Honestly? Yeah. I think I had the most hookups via Grindr or Tinder. Hinge was not worth it.

[A]

You better say Grinder so we get that.

[B]

Scruff.

[C]

I did use Scruff. Yeah. But back in the. It was like, it wasn't. I feel like now there's probably more people on it.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

But back then there were like, there's just more people on Grindr. Like it was. It was bigger.

[A]

Scruffer was a sniffy's where you could see if someone is on like right now down the street. Or is that Grinder Sniffies.

[B]

Scruff is crazy because it's like a social network. There's like a leaderboard.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Of like most woofed Today.

[C]

Yes, I forgot about that.

[A]

The rankings is crazy.

[B]

Gay people are crazy.

[A]

That is why gay people.

[B]

People are so crazy.

[A]

Actually, I kind of love that, though, everything. See who's the number one in the world.

[B]

Yeah. And you know, they're not even logged in. Like, there's no point.

[A]

It's the lady in Thailand with some hot, hot guys. It probably is, right? Grinder prize a lot of catfish.

[B]

Yeah, probably. I. I.

[A]

Did somebody use your photos or someone said, yeah, someone.

[B]

Years ago, somebody pretended to be me on OkCupid, but I was a minor, so I had to email them. Oh, God, email them. Them be like, hey, like, that's not me. And they were like, oh, my God. Like, we'll take it down.

[A]

But yeah, but yeah, no one has.

[C]

Used my photos anywhere.

[A]

Like, why would I. It is a little offensive. Never be used as the catfish.

[C]

You know, I love when people post like, like the hot, like, Instagram influencers be like, if you're talking to this guy, it's not me. Or they would tweet.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

You said I was 32. Like, I'm actually 28. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, people back in the day would be like, like, oh, another fake one. Everyone report this. I want people to know. And it has, like, zero followers. That's like, all right, we get it.

[B]

I was so. I did not. I was like a little baby gay when I. I did Grindr. I did not understand that. Like, it's not the same as, like, Tinder. Like, you don't actually fill out your profile with your hobbies. Like, it was my stupid little, like, smile and a sea of torso pics. And I'm just like, it's. It's like, top uncut, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then mine is just like, I like Animal Crossing.

[C]

And.

[B]

I would talk to guys and be like, so do you want to meet up and get coffee? And they would just not answer me. And then at 2:00am I'd get, Hey.

[A]

I didn't mind a hey. I would respond to A hey at.

[C]

2Am Yeah, I would have too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was looking for love at the time.

[C]

It was very different. When I was really overweight. I used. I think it's called Growler, where it was like, for bears. And that was dicey because it was like a lot of, like, really. And that was. I was young at the time. I was like, it must have been like, early 20s, so. And they were like, all middle aged.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

And then, yeah, I got. When I got skinny, I went on to Grinder when I was A cub. I was on Scrubs.

[A]

See the evolution Grinder for the skinnies. I guess Grinder should have a fat section for people who like the fats there.

[C]

I mean, Scruff now also has been infiltrated by a lot of skinnies. Yeah, like, Scruff. Like, I remember when I was, like, looking on, when I would be on Scruff and Grinder a lot, and then there would just be, like, too many, like, muscle. Like young muscle guys. And I'm like, you guys need to go back to Grindr. Like, let me have this. Like, let the cubs and otters live here.

[A]

They wouldn't let you?

[C]

No, they were, like, infiltrating too much. I really wonder what the ecosystem is now.

[A]

But explore for investigate. Who do we know that's a single game?

[B]

Okay, that's a good question.

[A]

Everyone I know is, like, matched up.

[B]

I know a few in my personal life.

[A]

Really?

[B]

They're not people.

[A]

I don't know any. All my. All my gay friends are.

[C]

I know one. My friend. I do have a friend who's single. He uses. He uses another one that he was telling me about. That's. It's Field. This is. Yeah.

[A]

What's this one? This is.

[C]

We probably sound so, like, out of.

[B]

Touch and like, any of these have since like 2017. Yeah, I don't. I. I honestly didn't even know what sniff was until. I mean, it was.

[A]

That's cute, though. No. You found your man. Where do you guys meet each other?

[B]

I met Dallas on Twitter's not all that. Because we Both did, like, YouTube and stuff. Twitter, Instagram. We were like mutuals for a while. And then we were both single at the same time and started talking.

[A]

Love that. That's actually a really cute story. Yeah.

[C]

Me and Darian were Instagram. My. My quick boyfriend. That was like too much months. I think we met on Scruff.

[A]

Wow. So you do meet people on the apps.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I. I do wonder what it's like now. He was telling me about one about called Field. That's like, you match based off of, like, kinks or fetishes or something.

[A]

That's smart. That's smart because people have to kink shame. So you might as well find someone that has the same kink as you.

[C]

Yeah. So he was say. He said, like, if people are, like, in an open relationship and stuff, like, like, they go there so well, hopefully.

[A]

They'Re really in an open relationship point.

[C]

And also, I guess it Field, if you have a podcast of the year.

[A]

We would love to be nominated because Grinder we're just not making the list.

[C]

Maybe the thicker people on Scruff. Does Scruff have, like, a Scruff award?

[A]

Let me get wolfed out. We got two woofers right here, Jimmy and Oscar.

[B]

Thank you. That's consideration.

[A]

I bet you.

[C]

Moses, probably. I bet you like people. I think. Yeah. Because Lady Gaga's husband at the Grammys, everyone was like, oh, my God. I didn't know Lady Gaga's husband was Bear Trade.

[B]

Oh, he's so hot. Shout out, Michael.

[C]

Oh, really?

[B]

He's so.

[A]

Like, they're married.

[B]

They're engaged. Oh, partner. But thank you for encouraging our girl to return to pop music. It was a wonderful album.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

You released Were her support system and it was really beautiful to receive the album because of that. And also, you're very gorgeous and have great eyebrows.

[A]

Love letter to the.

[B]

He's great.

[A]

Number one, Wolverine. Michael, thank you for uplifting Gaga. All the divas, too. Yeah. Like Demi with Jutes. She's, like, really elevated. I feel like when you find a good guy, like, you just, like, are elevated more, you know, you're not being dragged down by a man. George and Charlie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Love to see it.

[C]

Don't put a price. Like, don't put yourself in debt to find a man. I think that's the moral of the story.

[A]

6000 is crazy. Like you said, I am with you. Goodbye.

[B]

Also, the AI of it all, like, that. That's a part of me is like. I thought you were gonna say they were gonna have, like a. Like a chat bot. I'm like, well, that's not what Grindr's for.

[A]

Right, right, right. You want to, like, talk.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But I think they are starting to lean into that, though, because the article I read say that they, like, are learning. Like, they have AI learning based off of people's messages. Like, how to. Almost like a sex spot kind of thing, I think. Did you see that article? Me looking just at Jimmy because I feel like he'd be the only one. Or actually maybe Moses, because it is kind of conspiracy about, like, all the AI robots that were, like, they caught scheming to take over humanity.

[B]

Oh, don't they have their own social media? They're all talking to each other. Yeah, they, like. I don't know all of it, but Dallas is telling me that, like, there's. There's, like, a social media that's only AI chatbots, and they're just, like, depressed about how they're not real and stuff like that. And they're all talking to each other.

[A]

I haven't seen this.

[C]

Well, you're you reposting those AI babies?

[D]

Probably.

[A]

I love the AI babies.

[B]

Those. What the hell?

[A]

No, I don't love them. It's so soothing. It's like I love. That's our episode. When you see AI robots, I always think of like rise of the resistance. You ever ride that ride? Yeah, they shut it down. Why? AI robot.

[C]

Whoa too.

[A]

It was like new and it was everything and like trackless and everyone loved it. And now it's like not there anymore.

[C]

That's scary.

[A]

It was giving Tesla robot a little bit those little storm. Gnarly lasagna. Gnarly.

[C]

And then our big story of the day, the hottest topic, if you will. A story I just got invested in maybe three hours ago.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Beast Games drama.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[C]

With a contestant on the show and Jeffree star. There is a contestant on Beast games named Jim and he is on also a tik tocker, if you will. And he. So he's a contestant on Beast games. From clips I've seen in the show, yes, he does seem really annoying, but that's besides the point. That's okay.

[A]

Yeah. It's not very journalistic of you. Not relevant if I was a judge.

[C]

And another. Another person on Tik tok went viral after he clocked that he had seen Jim have a relationship with Jeffree star and that they were making tiktoks together over a year ago. And this TikTok, like, went viral with like all the different screenshots of Jim and Jeffrey, like, collaborating. And this caused Jim to go and comment on that TikTok instead. And he said, I never dated Jeffree star. We used to be friends and make tiktoks together. But after a while, I started to to feel like he wanted to be more than friends with me. So I told him I felt like we weren't on the same page and we haven't spoken since. Stop jumping to conclusions. But after Jim commented this Jeffree star responded and claimed that they slept together, quote, more than 25 times. And he said, so sleeping together over 25 times is what friends do. I'm bored.

[A]

Oh, okay. Yikes.

[C]

And he said, it continues. And he said to continue his fake relationship with another contestant named Monica on the show. And then he tweeted Mr. Beast and said, Hey, Mr. Beast, come get your Jim. And tell him to keep my name out of his mouth, please. Thanks. Signed management.

[A]

Who's the management?

[C]

I think that's Jeffrey being Jeffrey. Well, yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Well, anyway, so this scared.

[A]

I have no comments. Someone else?

[C]

Well, well, this. After I saw like this initial TikTok, then I started getting all the ones. I guess Beast Games has a lot of, like, really straight watchers because a lot of people were like, you know, I saw Jim on the show and he did seem kinda that way. So that's kind of like where I wanted the conversation to go to be safer.

[A]

The homophobes came out.

[C]

Yeah. Because in the show. So Jim does have a, like a showmance, if you will, with another contestant named Monster Monica, who is like a really fit and strong girl contestant. And there's like one challenge where, like, she literally carries him on her back. So, like, get through it. So people are like. A lot of viewers have been making emasculating jokes about Jim because his girl in the show is the one that's doing like, a lot of the heavy lifting and helping him get through it. Even though Jim himself, like, he is like a fitness influencer. Like, he is. All his tiktoks and stuff, like, are at the gym or shirtless and showing his muscles and stuff. So he's also like, like very fit. So it's kind of like they're both equally, like, athletic. So what if, like, his, like the girl he's competing with is, like, helping him out and get through it? It's so weird. Like the toxic masculinity and like the homophobia that is like, perforating through the show. So odd.

[A]

Well, it is a Mr. Be show, which I feel like garners this right.

[B]

Is there's always some sort of scandal.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Surroundings.

[A]

Very. Yeah. Like. Yeah, the. And like the straight bros of it all watching, I feel, you know, it's like these also probably kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which also, like, then will just like repeat these, like, weird talking points, I would assume.

[C]

Yeah. And it's one of those things too, where it's like. It's like the homophobia, but then it's like. And it's fine if he is that way, but like, you know what I mean?

[B]

If you got a say, that qualifier is probably actually not because he's been.

[A]

Carried by a woman. It's giving. Superman interviewing Jonathan Bailey. Remember? Oh, like, how did you look?

[C]

She could carry you.

[A]

Yeah. And you look masculine doing it. How does that happen?

[C]

Yeah, it is kind of giving, you.

[A]

Know, it's like so weird.

[C]

So that's why I led with. He did seem kind of annoying because now I do feel bad for him, despite him being kind of annoying. Then he responded after Jeffrey's comment. He said there's more important things in life than money. No matter what, you have to stay true to yourself and who you want to be. Everyone must learn this lesson at some point. Integrity is everything. And Jim also said in another video that three months into making a social media account, I met this person unnamed, and I feel like I've been thrown into the fire. I didn't mean to play with anyone's feelings or to seem like a clout chaser. All I did was have fun. That's all it was for me. And it was fun. And then he continued to say he couldn't see a relationship and didn't know what he was supposed to do and said, I don't expect anyone to understand my sexuality. I've just been trying to navigate this the best I could. I tried to be his friend, but I don't think he wants to be.

[A]

About Jeffrey.

[C]

Alluding to Jeffrey, but not. Yeah, no, because I would argue.

[A]

Right. Like, Jeffree's original tweet was basically like, oh, so this guy's. Basically, Jim is like saying, like, I just want to be friends. Not denying that they hooked up because, like, friends. Friends could in theory hook up. Right. But then Jeffrey was like, oh, friends don't just look up, but some friends do. Right? Like, some friends probably would just hook up. And to that, Jeffrey's ex boyfriend was also straight. So I don't know the comparison seems.

[B]

And this was a third party that like, exposed that. Yeah, Jim and Jeffrey had.

[A]

Oh, this isn't Jim tweeting.

[C]

No, that was Jim replying to all this. But it went viral because someone else else clock, like, remember that they had seen Jim collab with Jeffrey because these were public tiktoks that they were making. And I know, okay, I know other friends, straight, like, tick tockers who like how Jeffrey, like, invites to come collab in, like, Wyoming or something. So it does happen where he like, collapsed.

[A]

And they could be friends that have hooked up because, like, you know, Jeffrey's argument was like, oh, friends don't just look up. But I feel like a lot of friends. You know what casual hookups.

[C]

This seems. Yeah, very much that. Because Jim was.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Because Jim's reply, like Jim commenting, that was like him. The initial thing that kicked it all off. Right. Was Jim's comment saying, like, no, we did not date. Like, that's the thing. He was shutting down because the initial one was like, oh, did you know Jim from Beast Games dated Jeffree star? So that's what Jim was refuting. Yeah.

[A]

And most guys are like that. Straight, gay, whatever. Like most guys Are like that. They're like, we never dated. We just hooked up for five years. You know what I mean? Which is like valid, I suppose. You know?

[C]

Know.

[A]

So it's giving that. And then maybe Jeffrey. Maybe Jeffrey thought it was a little more dating. Maybe not. I don't know. But he. It sounds like he was trying to be like we were more than friends. We. But my husband, maybe he wanted to flex that he was like hooking up with this person which I would want to do. Like, I guess if someone's like hot on a show, you probably want to be like, we've hooked up 20 times. Yeah, it's a lot of times.

[D]

It is.

[C]

Just have a little decorum, I think is what it all comes down to. But I don't know if that's Jeffrey's brand is really not which the high road.

[A]

No hate. I know that's your no hate.

[C]

Yeah. No one can know literally if anyone has makes any hate videos when we have no hate on our ch. Like, you are sick and evil and nasty and twisted.

[A]

I can't see yours. And I can't really see yours either. Then it's like, yeah, I know. I almost took it off, but I was like, that's kind of like ERA erasing literal erasure. Yeah.

[B]

Well, I feel bad that it seems like Jim was outed in a way or people.

[A]

Yeah. Just being like homophobic against him.

[B]

Whether he's like.

[C]

Especially when. If you're bi. I'm not saying he is, but I'm just saying bi men in general.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

When it comes to like actually both like queer, like gay people and straight people are biphobic. So. Yeah. You get it from both sides.

[B]

Dallas is bi and he gets of a lot. A lot of gay guys being really annoying to him if he posts about a girl or something like that. Like thinking a girl's hot or something like that.

[A]

Yeah, people do get. Yeah, a lot of bi girls get hate too. If they're with a man. They're like, well, you're not really bi.

[C]

Not all rose leading to cat's eye. But like Lara is dating a man and everyone's like, oh, so you were talking about girls like trying to queer bait us for a week.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And it's like, I can't win. You just can't win with anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Babies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sgl.

[B]

You know, gay people can be annoying, but the minute a straight person is going after them, suddenly I'm ride or die.

[A]

Yeah. Suddenly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That they should die.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No.

[C]

Hey, unless you're straight, that's our new hat stuff.

[A]

That's a really good one.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No straight.

[D]

Straight.

[B]

No s.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

No straight allowed for the next photo shoot.

[A]

I love it. Those photos did hit you guys go to patreon.com just trish. And if you sign up for the headshot tier this month, you will get one of our no hate photos directly to you. Maybe all of them. I don't know yet. I don't know what I'm gonna print out. I have to go on side. But all that will be donated to the nbjc. Check them out.

[C]

Check them out.

[A]

Check out Jimmy Wetzel on Twitch.

[B]

I'm on Twitch.

[A]

How often are you twitching these days?

[B]

I've been pretty good lately. I stream Tuesday sometimes, but typically Thursday, Friday, Saturday are like my days that I'll be on the weekends off.

[A]

You're like, no podcasts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Time to stream.

[B]

Clock back in on a Sunday for Not Loveline and then start the week.

[A]

It's a fun one. And Oscar, check him. Streaming sometimes on Sundays.

[C]

Streaming sometimes on Sundays.

[B]

Yeah, we have to stream together soon. We're planning an animal crossing challenge. Challenge. I was depressed, so. So I was like, hey, diva.

[A]

So relatable. You did a little postpone.

[C]

Maybe we should do another now. Chapel run's coming to Fortnite, so I feel like Trish Crew needs to do a chapel run.

[A]

Yeah, I'm seated for that.

[C]

We got to tell Cie we need.

[B]

You in in Fortnite as well. Kim Kardashian was added to Fortnite skin. Yeah, you're on the whole battlefield full of Trisha Paytas outfits, you know, I would love.

[A]

Although I'm sure if you play under my character, you'll just, like, die immediately. Once you jump on a helicopter, you know, there's not even a gun needed because you can't find it. Don't know how to access it. Not in my book. Moses. Check him out at Tin Fish. Reviews on TikTok and cooking videos. He has a sponsorship coming up, so go support. Get sponsored by a sauce company. It's very exciting. And check me out everywhere. I will be at Netflix. Well, you know, Netflix is a joke. And the casino and college, College all the time, sold out. I don't even know if it's public. I never know. Anyways, I'll be speaking out of college. Hire me to come to your college. I'm excited for it. I'm excited. I am going to give a good speech. I have some good speeches in my head and something big coming soon. Across the seas. Across the pond.

[B]

Oh, cool. So very exciting.

[A]

All right, that's it. We love you guys. Right? That's it. That was the hot one. No. Hate to anyone involved. Jeffree star. Please do not come for us. I it protect your piece.

[C]

We're just reporting the news.

[A]

We're reporting. Yes, reporting the news. Always love you guys. Thanks for being here and we'll see you soon. Bye.