Jake Shane's Oscars Interview BACKLASH + Brooke Schofield Faces Ugly Wedding Dress Allegations

Summary

Just Trish – March 17, 2026

Summary of Episode: "Jake Shane's Oscars Interview BACKLASH + Brooke Schofield Faces Ugly Wedding Dress Allegations"

Hosts: Trisha Paytas & Moses Hacmon
Special mentions: Malibu (Trisha and Moses’ daughter, occasional chimes in)
Date: March 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into recent pop culture internet controversies, including the backlash toward Jake Shane's Vanity Fair Oscars red carpet interview, discourse around "influencer interviewers," and the extreme online reaction to Brooke Schofield's courthouse wedding look. Trisha and Moses also catch up on the Oscars’ results, viral celebrity moments, and share their candid, sometimes chaotic commentary on everything from food hacks and St. Patrick’s Day lore to Mormon Wife drama and reality TV toxicity. As always, the tone is brutally honest, unfiltered, and teeming with both humor and unexpected empathy.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Oscars Recap & Aftermath

• Oscars “Horror Invasion”: Sinners wins big; Trisha and Moses discuss how the film “felt” and why it overshadowed others like Marty Supreme and Timothée Chalamet’s project.
  • "It made me feel—like, it hurts you, you know, so it's just like I felt it, I liked it. And more than I can say for Marty Supreme, honestly." – Trisha (27:51)
• Oscars Show Critique: The show’s pacing, the awkward cutting off of winner speeches, and excessive "synergy" moments (Disney, Marvel, etc.) over genuine moments.
  • “They were really hyping up Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans ... I'm like, we could only get these two?” – Moses (43:08)
• Red Carpet/Backstage Moments:
  • Kim Kardashian’s “messy” Vanity Fair look inspired Moses’ hair.
  • Hasaan Piker’s surprise Vanity Fair party walk prompts behind-the-scenes outreach and thirsting by Moses.

2. Jake Shane’s Oscars Red Carpet Interview Controversy

• What Happened:
  • Jake Shane (with Brittany Broski & Quen Blackwell) was tasked with interviewing stars for Vanity Fair’s Oscars party.
  • Shane goes off-script asking Julia Fox (about the Oscar-nominated “If I Had Legs, I’d Kick You”): “Do you think the kid was annoying? You know, that kid was so damn annoying. And it's the kid that's sick.” (00:00, replayed at 83:13)
  • Julia Fox handles it gracefully, but social media (esp. Twitter) tears into the “out-of-touch influencer” energy.
    • Quote: "Twitter is diabolical. ... You get really big and like lifted up to be like, you know, then kind of people want to drag you down a little bit" – Trisha (92:20)
• Hosts’ Take:
  • Trisha: “I think it needs to be dragged out a little more … Sometimes it works really, really well. And I think for the Oscars, though, because it is like, I would not be a good fit for the Vanity Fairy car because I've only seen two of the films.” (84:39)
  • Moses: “Time and place! Jake Shane is a good interviewer but I think it just didn’t work in this instance.” (85:29)
  • Both reflect on the difference between podcast/internet humor and red carpet etiquette, likening “cringe” influencer moments to learning curves.
    • “I think Jake Shane might fall into that category. Especially like it’s something like motherhood, right?” – Trisha (91:17)

3. Brooke Schofield's Courthouse Wedding – Internet Overkill

• What Happened:
  • Brooke eloped, wearing her signature slicked-back bun and a white two-piece suit. She shared "should I wear a slick back bun for my wedding?" on TikTok, received a wave of negative opinions, and upon posting photos was roasted for her “ugly” look—even by fans.
• Hosts’ Take:
  • Moses (with classic incredulity): “It was such a fervor. Everyone was chiming in. ... She looked fine. It was like a two piece outfit again at a Santa Barbara coastal courthouse wedding.” (152:24)
  • Trisha: “It is crazy to me … it does hurt worse when it comes from your own fans.” (151:19)
  • Both agree: Internet cruelty to young women — especially on milestone days — is bizarrely normalized. They advocate for blocking, not reading DMs, and moving on.
  • “She said she loved it and she should have leave it at that. Like, I thought I looked beautiful. I was like, then, that. That’s it. Period. Done.” – Trisha (157:38)

4. St. Patrick’s Day Lore, Food Hacks, and Life Updates

• St. Patrick’s Day:
  • Trisha recounts holiday history, jokes about Irish and Scottish confusion; Malibu (her daughter) quizzes everyone on green dye. (50:01)
• Food Talk:
  • Taco discourse: Trisha debates whether she’s ever had a "real" taco, winding through mashed potato tacos, and challenging Moses and Malibu’s definitions. (73:22-77:58)
  • Home food hacks: When it’s best to go to restaurants for fresh food/oil (3:51), secrets for getting extra at fast food, sushi/Omakase anniversary mishaps.
  • Sinners/Frankenstein viewing: Trisha insists Sinners is "definitely horror;" Moses splits hairs on definitions.

5. Mormon Wives Reality Show – Reality Toxicity Explored

• Trisha's Rant—Fire and Fury:
  • She rails against the endless cycle of toxic relationships blasted onto reality TV.
  • She condemns manipulative couples—centered on Taylor Frankie Paul—entangling themselves and their children, and dragging down everyone on the show.
  • "Men are awful. They're awful. Awful." – Moses (126:32)
• Jealousy & Internet Drama:
  • Trisha contrasts her past jealousy with Tana Mongeau’s attitude: “If you are jealous of someone else ... it’s because something’s hurting you. There’s something in your life that's not making you happy.” (116:04)
• Call for Growth:
  • “I think now ... we need to see some growing and less going back to the same bullshit … You're the Bachelorette. I don't know. I guess they don't care anymore about their … brand.” – Trisha (115:40)
  • Advocates for women supporting women, calls for less toxic drama, longing for uplifting reality TV.

6. Notable Celebrity & Pop Culture Moments

• Timothée Chalamet’s Oscars Night:
  • Public backlash to his ballet/opera comments; consensus he should address it, maybe with a ballet-themed charitable act or event.
• Kylie Jenner’s Style Rewear:
  • “She’s like, I look good in this dress. I’m gonna wear it in every color.” (54:08)
• Conan O'Brien's Oscars cameo and Baby Yoda with Kate Hudson – examples of spectacle over substance.

7. Influencer Interviewers on Red Carpets

• Expansion of the Jake Shane discourse into a larger topic:
  • “Sometimes it works really, really well. And I think for the Oscars, though ... I would not be a good fit for the Vanity Fairy car because I've only seen two of the films.” – Moses (84:39)
  • They reflect on their own awkward carpet stories (Trisha missing her chance to interview Jimmy Fallon), commenting on how internet humor often misfires in traditional press environments.

8. Miscellaneous Viral/Internet Moments

• Quen Blackwell’s Candid On-Air Tea:
  • After Damson Idris’s interview, Quen recalls sliding into his DMs and being left on read—caught on live mic. (94:12)
• Live TV Chaos:
  • Both hosts hail the messiness of live events, relishing in candid, unscripted moments that trend online.
• Internet Hate Coping Mechanisms:
  • Moses likens never looking at comments as key to mental health: “It is really hard to, like, come for me because I just will not see it.” (156:03)
  • Pokimane’s method: pay someone to filter all incoming hate.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “It made me feel—like, it hurts you, you know, so it's just like I felt it, I liked it. And more than I can say for Marty Supreme, honestly.” – Trisha (27:51)
• “They were really hyping up Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans ... I'm like, we could only get these two?” – Moses (43:08)
• Jake Shane, quoting himself from Vanity Fair: “Do you think the kid was annoying? You know, that kid was so damn annoying. And it's the kid that's sick.” – (00:00, replayed at 83:13)
• “Twitter is diabolical. ... You get really big and like lifted up to be like, you know, then kind of people want to drag you down a little bit.” – Trisha (92:20)
• “This is like nuts and wild behavior. Cuz like, she looked fine. It was like a two piece outfit again at a Santa Barbara coastal courthouse wedding.” – Moses (152:24)
• “It is crazy to me … it does hurt worse when it comes from your own fans.” – Trisha (151:19)
• “If you are jealous of someone else ... it's because something's hurting you. There's something in your life that's not making you happy.” – Trisha (116:04)

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Standout Timestamps

• Oscars analysis / “Sinners” talk: 26:36 - 37:46
• Timothée Chalamet backlash: 51:00 - 54:57
• Jake Shane interview controversy: 79:10 - 91:17
• Brooke Schofield’s wedding backlash: 147:06 - 157:38
• Mormon Wives/Reality TV rant: 104:00 - 126:07
• Celebrity internet moments: 53:05, 132:49, 142:09

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Tone & Energy

Authentic, Chaotic, Unapologetic, and Fiercely Honest.
Trisha and Moses keep things unfiltered yet still draw boundaries around mental health and growth. Humor is quick and references fly fast, with moments of candid vulnerability and reflection.

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In Closing

This episode of Just Trish offers a wild but coherent tour through internet pop culture, highlighting the volatility of viral fame, the pitfalls of online judgments (and the healing in moving past them), and the oddity of modern celebrity discourse. Whether defending slicked-back buns, unpacking the lessons of reality TV failure, or poking fun at the machinery of red carpet spectacle, Trisha and Moses keep the conversation equal parts rowdy and real—always in touch with their audience’s desire for both entertainment and authenticity.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Her name is trish. She's got. Top of the morning to ya. It's just Trish here. And you can just call me Trish O Connor. Sorry, is that Irish? They call me I Trish.

[Malibu]

Actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at the I Trish. Today I'm redhead and bushy tailed. I've had lots of corned beef and hash today. Went to the tavern. I did. And then got some lucky charms because they're always after me lucky charms.

[Moses Hacmon]

You got a little southern with it. I did spit on that bang in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did get a little southern. My. My Irish accent could use a little bit of work. Alcohol. Nile.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, word. And hit him up.

[Trisha Paytas]

See, I knew I could remember another Irish lad. I've been practicing for my shows in May at the Palm Springs Fantasy Springs Casino and the Royal Albert hall show. I've been doing I close with the One Direction song.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And it goes with a little montage.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. If it wasn't sold out, that would have pushed it over the edge.

[Trisha Paytas]

That little announcement I was really rehearsing. I've really been practicing. I'm gonna bring Jeremy as my backup singer because I think it needs like really like some beefed up vocals if I'm gonna do live. And I think we're gonna do a really great.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, you can't compete with a sing Tet sync.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tet a sing tet all by yourself, right? Yes. And I need. Especially if I'm doing like One Direction. They had those vocals, so we need to do those harmonies, if you will.

[Malibu]

So just as Carrie Styles, maybe he is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seems to be around. Around and attainable. I mean, right. Like, you know, in reach snl.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, he's doing. He's really doing. He's doing the press tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I'll DM him.

[Moses Hacmon]

He has his residency though, so you might have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

You might need to.

[Moses Hacmon]

A Louis Tomlinson extra within reach.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think honestly, Louie might be more of a surge.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was gonna say you and Louis might actually be more iconic, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he's Irish too?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, no, British.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

We're from Britain, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I bet Wales.

[Moses Hacmon]

He gives me Welsh, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

He gives me Welsh vibes. 5 Miami and be like, oh, my God, luckiest day ever.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yorkshire.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, close enough. I don't know, but I think that's close enough. I'm celebrating today. I'm celebrating. I already got my leprechaun lemonade from raising canes. Not sponsored. I want to take back what I said about raising canes. We went at midnight after the Elvis premiere and it was awful.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

We said that we're like the chicken.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then I went today at 9am when they open, and the best chicken fingers I've ever had in my life. So I think they must get scarce of chicken around midnight.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I would think too. And I swear I've seen a tick tock where they like in fast food hacks where if you go towards the end, you can ask them for like whatever chicken they were gonna throw out. Like if you want extra free chicken. So that kind of makes sense. That kind of has just the scraps.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I always say I go to Benny Hunt at 11am right when they open. If you go anytime after, it's not as good boiling crab if you go there right at 11:30, which everyone knows that hack now one time went to the right 1130, there was already a line. We were there at 1105 and there was like a line already. Because those fries are the freshest and those oils. Moses theory is the oil is the freshest at that time of day. And they just keep reusing the oil throughout the day. So they're just not as good. Yeah, but yeah, it was delicious today. So not sponsored, but I had to get the leprechaun lemonade and it was delicious. I had a cup here. I cut there and then Got the donuts. I got all that. Oh, my gosh. Wait, and before. Oh, and then we've got a Dior mug cam today. I. It's been on display for a while. The girls have been trying to get it. I keep putting it higher and higher and they keep trying to get that cup. And I got it for the mug cam and I got a Dior shirt too, but he said he couldn't see it on the show. So I was. I was sad. It had the little clover and it said Dior. And I was like, oh, look, I got you something too. But maybe today, I don't know. We're trying to find something Irish to do. He said there was an Irish pub around. I don't know. We'll see. Maybe watch Dairy Girls. I don't know. Just go a little cray cray. Actually, I think Cho Chang is Irish from the actress who was on Bridgerton.

[Moses Hacmon]

Scottish. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get them mixed up. Scottish and Irish all the time. They sound the same. A little bit. The kilts, because there's Tilted kilt. That's Scottish also. Probably not appropriate for children. I don't know. Is that the place for the sexy girls?

[Malibu]

I don't think there's tilted.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Kitty Long, she's from Dundee, Scotland.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Scotland.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. I love her Scottish accent.

[Trisha Paytas]

Accent.

[Moses Hacmon]

I do. I love hearing her talk.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy because in Harry Potter she had a British accent too, right? Both in Bridgerton and Harry Potter.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like. And then you hear talking, it's always like. It's like Jacob Lordy or Margot Robbie. When they talk interviews, you're just like,

[Moses Hacmon]

I heard her Scottish accent is so, like, thick.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. It's so spirit beautiful. I love her too, also. Okay, last week, it's the last week this week to vote. Next week, you guys, is the. You think, you think award season is over. It's only just begun. Okay. The biggest award ever is coming, and that's favorite Broadway debut at the iHeartRadio Awards. This is the last week to vote, so please vote. I have been campaigning and I keep the eye on my competition. I feel only me and Cheryl Porter have been campaigning, so I feel like one of us should win because it's fan voted not to say. The other ones, obviously, other ones are, I think Tom Felton's on Broadway. I think McDonald's. I think everyone's still on Broadway living their Broadway dreams. Cheryl Porter's on American Idol. I mean, everyone's doing something I'm not. So that's why I'm campaigning for this award. I want it so bad. I would love to come after. After Rachel Zegler. I would love to come before Bob the Drag Queen or Whitney Levitt. You know what I mean? I would love to be in this so much. It's my only shot at an award, you guys. I want it more than anything. I envision my speech. I see it happening. It's gonna be at the same place that they held the Oscars. Like, it's the same, Ben. Yeah. Like crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is the place for legend.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is the place hosted by Ludacris. I mean, sign me up. I'm. I'm. I'm so gagged. I am so gagged, and I'm so ready, and I just really, really need you all. So I'm just. I'm just Dr. Like. Like, I. Like, my life depends on it. Like, I'm winning a prize. Like, I am winning prize anyways. I really, really, really want it. Please vote favorite Broadway debut. And remember, it's favorite Broadway debut. Okay. Not. Not best. Not who's the most talented? Not who had the longest run. It's you. Who was your favorite gag moment? It was a gag.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was a gag.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was good times. And whoa. Oscars on Flopcast this week.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. Go check it out. I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't seen the clip. The clips are getting likes. The one I repost today had, like, 50,000 likes.

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And it was. I love it. It was. Shoot. God, I seen so many clips. What was the one? I liked the one this morning and made me, like, all sentimental because I

[Malibu]

was like, the one. We talked about meeting you at the party.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Oh, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I do love that story.

[Trisha Paytas]

The lore.

[Moses Hacmon]

Meeting you in that Little Mrs. Claus light cosplay. Casual cosplay, if you will.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then going home and just seeing you laying on your kitchen floor in that same dress, same glam.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I still love him. Like, that's fierce to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the T shirt line we're coming out with soon.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And hopefully there's updates on that. Yeah, I love. I guess I love. Because we, like, see each other all the time. We never talk about us. We're never like, oh, you know, the

[Moses Hacmon]

concept of us just sitting here and talking about ourselves.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I love it. I have an announcement next week where I mention a project where I talk. I talk a lot about Oscar. In fact, there's a lot of Oscar lore to be talked about, and I'm like, I'm very excited, and it's very and yes, during that process, I remember just being like, aw. Like, we really been in each other's lives for, like, a minute.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. We've had a kinship from. From the beginning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. What did they call it? I don't know if this is the right term for us, but they said something about invisible string theories.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was gonna say invisible string theory.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I think that's, like, when you're, like, being pulled together.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. I think it works platonically as well as romantic.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, I feel that 100. That's why I was like. Because we have known each other. I think it has been, like, 10 years now, and it's like. It is crazy how it all came and there's, like, so many life events together and life changes together. I actually had a dream about you last night, and it was like, oh, you're like, oh, actually, I'm already married. And I was like, oh, Moses. Kind of knew that. And then I was like. And it felt so real. And then I woke up this morning like, is Oscar married?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my. No, you would.

[Malibu]

Zendaya situation, Right?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, because you are gonna be the gag of the wedding. Even if it's the courthouse. Like, even if it's a courthouse wedding, you still have to have the performance for just, like, the people waiting in line.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll do it. I will do it.

[Malibu]

Just, like, we'll the cardboards with us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the cardboard is crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, silhouette. Like,

[Trisha Paytas]

all the exes. Sorry, Moses. They all coming back into the frame. Done, done and done. I'll write you a wedding song. Okay. So you're not. It felt so real. I guess because I kept seeing the clips of you all this weekend. I was kind of, like, tapped out of this weekend. Like, I just keep. I think I wrote back to you on TikTok and Twitter this morning, but I was kind of tapped out, but for some reason, every time I opened it, it was like, you. And I was like, yeah, it was. It really was. I was kind of like, okay. And I. I. I felt like I watched the whole podcast. I need to sit down and watch podcasts. I just haven't done it. But I. I was into it. I was invested. People really loved it. People loved you guys.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. The comments were very sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I. I forgot everything I said. Even when they sent it to me for approvals, I was like, you know, Paige, I'm. I said what I said kind of girl. I have no notes. I didn't even watch back. But I'm like, I stand by everything I said in that moment, because I love that I was my true, authentic self in that moment. And I could be different now, but at that moment ago, I know I am.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will never rewatch something. One time, I had Moses rewatch a podcast. And honestly, I probably should watch that podcast, but at one time, it slipped through the cracks. But usually I'm the same way. I'm just like, I said what I said. I appreciate when guests are like that, too. When, like, I said what I said, and I was like I said. Because I saw Jake, she talking to, like, Rolling Stone, and he's like, yeah, I always get my guest at it. We do, too. Obviously. I like, I know the sentiment behind it is you want them to feel comfortable and everything that. But I do love a guest who's just, like, I said what I said, if it's messy, we'll find out later. And that's kind of how I feel, too. Yeah, but you were great. You were so. It felt very PR trained, almost. It was very.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Eating PR train.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't see that clip. I did not see that clip.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was just seeing the little key.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Malibu]

Maybe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. But again, stood by what I said because I have. By, like, men who. I don't know their names.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is that what you.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's my truth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah. There's nothing. There's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong. You can always take a pill or a shot if you get some breakouts. Not even just herpes. Other things have breakouts, too. I should clarify. You know what I mean? Some people, like, well, if there's a breakout of herpes. Anyways. Not that you do. I'm just saying, in general, people have.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but I did get. I did get very sick, and it was right before the pandemic. And then I remember, like, it became declared a pandemic, like, the week after I was sick. And I remember that's when I was like, besties with Daniel Prada. And I remember telling Daniel, I was like, am I patient zero? Like, it's not the bathroom. It's. I think it was me eating in a bath house. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And a bath house.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. You better.

[Trisha Paytas]

You go.

[Moses Hacmon]

Better go and watch that. And that episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

You went to a bath house.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, 2019. Me, when I was teeny and, like, so in demand. I was like. I was, you know, the alleyways, bath houses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar unleashed. All of a sudden. I did not know this.

[Moses Hacmon]

2019. It was a small window.

[Trisha Paytas]

Alleyways for three.

[Moses Hacmon]

God intervened. Maybe it was like, let's have A shutdown because you're doing too much. You need to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel that I was kind of that too in 2019. Then 2020 was the result. Yeah, it was definitely on a heroin binge.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, well, I wasn't doing all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But what's worse, heroin are eating Rando's butts at bathhouses. For those of you who don't know bath houses, they're kind of a free for all. You kind of just go in and just munch a butt, even if you don't know their face.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just. Anyway, I mean this was a pre scheduled at least. It was like, oh, we had chatted and we're gonna meet here at this time. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my understanding, my friends who used to visit. I had one friend that loved Bathhouse and it'd be music video and end at like 2 in the morning. I was like, what? And he's like, he just like, guys, butts are just in the air and you can go do whatever.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is also an element as well. I guess I wasn't that fierce, but I know that was happening upstairs. But this one in particular was like a yeah, we can meet here kind of thing. Yeah, well, and he worked for Marvel. He was a PA at Marvel. I said, that was, that was extra ready. I was like, spread those cheeks right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

You and David Dobrik have that in common. You love a Marvel. You will do anything for a Marvel. Me too though. I met someone off Tinder who was like, oh, I just got off. I just started stopped working on Iron Man. He was like an assistant to Shane Black or something. And I was just like, oh, that's so cool. And like I was like, even though I didn't care about Marvel, I still thought it was like such a cool thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I'm a Marvel, Stan. And also it was like he was holding his cards close to his chest kinda. He was like, yeah, like I'm working on a Marvel movie. Black Widow. He's like, oh, I can't really say what it is, Black Widow, but it's pretty cool. And then I was like, bend over

[Trisha Paytas]

message or at the bathhouse.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's telling me it was in the sauna. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So beforehand you didn't know?

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he just told you there. He's like, by the way.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah. I think it was like, oh, so like what do you do like randomly small talk right before, which is like, we could just get to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, well, yeah, it was a fierce window in my life. Those three months of, okay, I had no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm supportive. I love it. Good morning, everybody. It's a Tuesday morning. They're on their way to work. They're like, wow, we just tried out a lot. And I like it. I'm here. I'm supportive of it. Well, I guess go find out more on Flopcast. I guess we should probably.

[Moses Hacmon]

Every detail is over there where they gagged for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were they into it?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, because also it was literally a block away from the said bathhouse is where they film. So I was like, wow, this is really memory lane. February 2019. Yeah, February 2020. Excuse me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right before.

[Moses Hacmon]

Literally right before. Because I. I remember like so vividly like a week or two weeks after, after Covid being declared a pandemic and being. And talking to Daniel and being like. Because I got really sick after that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think it was the big.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think it was just the heat from the sauna, then the wet heat from the. What's whatever that one is called? I don't know. Whatever that was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know. The mist. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know what all this.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not see those clips on Tick Tock.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I guess you're off gay Twitter now, so maybe engage with it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am. I know I need to get back on it. I don't know how. I'm on like, weird Republican Twitter. That's all I'm seeing is Jake Paul's and all these things.

[Malibu]

I'm just like, no Twitter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? You're gagging. He's everywhere. Well, how was your weekend? Did you have any vlogcast? Came out Friday. Yeah, but you filmed it a while ago.

[Moses Hacmon]

We filmed it the weekend before, so that was over a week ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

We can't. Oh, yeah, I forgot to give my disclaimer. I did. I worked the Oscars last night and I finished at 12:30 and then got home like at 1. And then it took me so long for my brain to, like, slow down again. So I didn't really go to sleep until like 4. So I'm a little eccentric today. A little sassy, a little erotic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, really?

[Moses Hacmon]

But, like, I'm rolling with it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do like this outfit. It does kind of look like. It does look like you're like, oh, I have business, but I just had a. I had a wild night the night before. Like, it's a little tossed up, right? Yes. Oh, that's what it is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Button. Can I tell you who inspired the hair and like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the hair's top.

[Moses Hacmon]

Not trying to suck up to anybody who has recently sponsored us, but I was kind of inspired by Kim Kardashian's messy hair at the Vanity Fair Oscar party.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was too.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, let me put a little curl cream in here, a little texture, and kind of just whip it around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, She. I thought she looked good to people. Like, this is, like, crazy or messy or whatever. I loved it. I love when she tossled it too, and, like, hair was sticking out, because that's very mean. So I'm just like, let me just.

[Moses Hacmon]

I loved it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cool.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I was. I had to, like, edit her video, whatever. And I was, like, hearing the photographers, they were trying. They didn't get the vision, so they were trying to tell her. They're like, kim, you have. You have hair in your face. And, like, kim, you got a little hair, like, right here. And so they're trying to, like, help her out. And she's like, it's the look, you guys. Oh, she said she's doing. And she's like, it's the look. And then she keeps tussling it and throwing it in her hair with their crazy blue contacts. And I was like, I live for this whole spectacle. Like, that's so fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. To me, she was giving, like, Angelina Jolie or something. Like, I just thought, like, it was just, like, raw and just. I loved it. I really, you know, I don't think any Kardashian could do any wrong. So I love her.

[Moses Hacmon]

Except Courtney, but we move.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But even her. But, like, I love. You know what I mean? I love Kendall. I love all of them, honestly. Now. Yeah. Well, nothing else exciting this weekend before we get to Oscars?

[Moses Hacmon]

Nothing else exciting? Not really, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

You didn't go see a movie?

[Moses Hacmon]

No movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Locked in. Because I worked also Saturday. Work Saturday and also Sunday, so not a lot of room for. For antics and all that. And also, it's Tariyami's party tonight, and

[Trisha Paytas]

then you better go.

[Moses Hacmon]

I really don't know if I'm physically nor mentally. I am, like, literally so tired. And my next day off isn't until Sunday, so that's. That's a lot going on. Also, I work at 5am tomorrow, mind you, like, influencers for your parties. Like, think of the working people, the girls who have to clock into their jobs at 5 o' clock in the morning because Tara's like, open bar party all night. And you better have a good time. If you're not gonna drink and have fun, don't even Bother showing up, mama. And I was like, damn. I don't. That's a lot of pressure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy on a Monday is a little crazy for that kind of party. I get, like, a little, like, premiere. Oh, no, that's next week. Okay. There was another premiere, but okay. Anyways. Yes, the Monday is a little. Especially before St. Patrick's Day. Is it St. Patrick's Day party?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I think it's just a diary. I mean, day party.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you say where it is or no?

[Moses Hacmon]

I actually don't even know where it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's giving Barney's beanery.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, like, that's what it's giving.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is kind of the vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wasn't fighting. I just didn't see the invite.

[Moses Hacmon]

I didn't see the location either. But I do love her. I might have to, like, send her. My idea was recording an apology message to her. I. Granted, I know she has, like, a thousand people going, but she needs to know that, like, I really.

[Trisha Paytas]

You considered it?

[Moses Hacmon]

Wants to be there. Like, yeah. If I was not so sleep deprived and ran through and ran down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Ran through is crazy. After your story. You just said ran through.

[Moses Hacmon]

If I was not ran through, ran down, sleep deprived, like, I would be there. I would be there 100. But she needs to know that. She needs to get the message. So I might need you to send a video message.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, we'll do done and done after this. You guys are giving me Jacob Lordy a little today. I think the hair. I think the hair is giving. Jacob Lordy. And the outfit. It's giving because he has jeans on with this. You're giving. You're giving.

[Moses Hacmon]

Nate J. I was reading a book. Maybe, you know, he loves to just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does he love? Well, you're always reading a book. Where's your book? You always have one.

[Moses Hacmon]

I had one one day as a problem. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wuthering Heights, period.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I swear. You read the House? You're reading. You're a reader.

[Moses Hacmon]

Ish. Ish. I should be reading.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's he reading?

[Moses Hacmon]

The twelve by Joey Graceffa. What's he reading? I don't know. Probably not the 12, I don't think,

[Trisha Paytas]

but maybe that'd be a gang if

[Moses Hacmon]

he was him at the gas station reading the. The twelve by Joey Grace. That'd be fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is fierce.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I don't know if he's that kind of girl. He gives me, like, a literary classic kind of vibe. I can't even name one, but Moby

[Malibu]

Dick, he's probably or something like that. Oh, Lee J. Nietzsche. Nietzsche like philosophy. He's probably.

[Moses Hacmon]

That makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nietzsche is crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Never heard of him.

[Trisha Paytas]

But same. That's a random one. Say like Charles Dickinson or something. That's exciting. Thank you so much to DraftKings for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. DraftKings is changing the game with Flex Spins. New and exclusive to DraftKings Casino Flex spins lets you choose how to use your spins across more than 100 slots. New players play $5 and get 500 flex spins. Claim 50 spins a day for 10 days. Then you choose how to play them across your favorite games like Huff and More, Pu, Cash Eruption and more. Download the app now and sign up with code Just trish. Claim your 500 Flex bins and choose your slots. The crown is yours in partnership with DraftKings. Casino gambling problem call 1-800- gambler in Connecticut. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org Please be responsible 21/ fiscally present. Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only Boyd and Ontario. Eligible restrictions apply now. Trouble spins issued SVT for 10 days. Bad for select games only and expire each day after 24 hours. See [e-mail] promos ends May 3 at 11:59pm eas so much to Draft Kings for sponsoring today's episode. We. We. We didn't do anything either. What do we do? We ate sushi. We should do that for a video. We should eat raw sushi. Have you ever been to it? What's it called? Amaskazi. What's. It's called Kaze. But what is called Omakase?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, what is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like a prefixed sushi menu and it's just raw fish coming at you and the chef looks at you. There was. We went to a really exclusive one where only 12 people get a reservation at a time, which I was like, okay, kind of bouge. And when we. Well, we didn't know that the day of, I was like, oh, I've been planning this date. I got a babysitter plan this day. Because it was like our six years of meeting anniversary. We have a lot of anniversary, six years of meeting. And I was like, oh, we're gonna do this. You had talked about going there for a while, but I'm the planner as far as, like, you know, childcare or going out. Like, I plan things. So I was like, okay, I know he wants to go. I was like, I Gotta plan our anniversary, all of this. But then I was like, oh no, you need reservations. And the next reservations not to like April 25th or something. Oh my God, no. Because it's like small and there's only 12 people at a time and there's only six and 8:30 reservations. And I was like, so then I had to pull the card. I was like, let me just send a little dm. And well, first I had to tell Moses. I had to tell him like, oh, I think I, I thought we didn't need reservations. Then we had a little, you know, it always starts a little bit like on our anniversary. I was like, I thought we need reservations. Like I never said that. I was like, so then anyways, he called at 9am I DM'd at the same time. We DM'd at the same time. It was the same person. And someone answered, even though they don't open till six. And then we. Yeah, she's like, okay, is there a number? And call back. And Moses was like, yes, my wife, Trisha Paytas.

[Moses Hacmon]

I did that with my DM too,

[Malibu]

because she was gonna call me. I was like, you know what, I might not be able to pick up the phone, maybe call my wife, maybe world renowned performer. And she was like, I can't, I'm driving. Can you text me? I'm like, perfect, let me text you her name and number.

[Trisha Paytas]

Instagram handle IDM from the Instagram.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just got back from the set of Euphoria. I don't know if you've heard of it, but you know Zendaya, that's her friend and. But she just got home so she's able to take her call. I'm really busy. But luckily she just freed up because they just finished reshooting in the morning

[Trisha Paytas]

on a Friday on the same day when the reservation actually guess I don't know if you saw on the camera because the car came by our house and it was like, hey. And I was like. And it was our neighbor that came to the party, the one that owns that, like Starbucks, I guess he owns that thing too. He's like, oh, I saw you at my restaurant. I was like, well, restaurant, yeah. And so shout out Kazi and Thousand Oaks, by the way. Kazi. And I guess that's like his. Well, it's his, like his whole thing. So it's like, whatever. But yeah, shout out Kazi and Thousand Oaks for coming through. But anyways, they were like, okay, well we could probably squeeze you in. And they're like, it's going to Be tight. And I thought, oh, no. But it was actually a lot of room. So if we weren't, there would be even more room. It was very roomy anyways. It was. But then there's like three chefs. And I was like, okay, the chef's not gonna be watching because, like, you know, usually I will, like, pass mine to Moses or whatever. Yeah. You know, a little. But they're. Everyone's staring. Everyone. And he asked, how did you like that one? How did you like that?

[Moses Hacmon]

And he's looking.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's making conversation with us. I was like. So I, you know, I did it. I did it. And I just took all that raw fish and just ate it. And it was. It was not bad. It was not bad. You said those were tamed sushis, which I think you could do. He said they were not. They weren't so fishy. You know, sometimes it smells like, you know, like that tin fish.

[Malibu]

Some of when you go, you get snails and squids and all kind of things here. It was very. Mostly sushi, mostly fish that you know about already and that you. That you would want that anyways.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you don't like any seafood?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, we gotta go. I think you should try it because, like, honestly, me too. I'm like, oh, like this. I was already preparing myself. Thank God we did the tin fish thing because in comparison to that tin fish, I was like, oh, this is like nothing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it has a little bit of rice on the bottom.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

A little bit of rice. And honestly, it, like, wasn't bad. And I was like, this is a good Patreon video, so maybe I'll have a sushi stuff come and just.

[Malibu]

I think his reasoning is not one too. It's not Fear Factor. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, well, for Patreon it will be.

[Malibu]

But you know, there are places and quite amazing places that do raw. Like, it's. It's all made out of vegetables. Like, there's no fish involved. Like, full on sushi experience. And it's all. And it's so tasty.

[Moses Hacmon]

Actually, I don't know which one's worse.

[Malibu]

There's one that I feel like you

[Trisha Paytas]

love a raw veggie. Wait, have you never had raw veggies?

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you tried? No, I had a sprout the other day. Have you ever had sprouts?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, actually, I mean, I've had like, like the cheese Factory, like, lettuce wraps.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have little spring rolls from Health Nut. Have you ever had those I feel like that's very joy. Graffitis from Calabasas, they have these, like, spring rolls, and it's just, like, carrots and, like, raw and, like, little sprouts. And it was actually like, maybe it's my mind tricking me, but I was like, this is actually not bad. And I was like, no, it's wrapped

[Malibu]

in, like, a salad wrapped in rice paper.

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought it would be, like, a little crunchy, you know, like a spring roll.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, the crunch is the carrots.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Malibu]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

You changed. But

[Trisha Paytas]

tasty. I have been trying at least, like, three days a week. I'm like, let me try and have some, like, something healthy. I've been trying to, you know, it's hard. It's not easy. Last night, I had pasta twice, actually. Twice? You made me butter noodle pasta before I left for the recording studio. Then you made me pasta. Vodka at home was like, there's a lot of noodles today. But I loved it. They were. I love the portion control. Thank you.

[Moses Hacmon]

It helps.

[Trisha Paytas]

It helps so much. And then after our romantic date, we watch. Okay. We're like, okay, Oscars are this weekend, so we're like, okay, let's watch a movie. And we watch dinners, which you told me was not a horror movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

To me. It's not.

[Malibu]

I agree. It's not a horror movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

You guys. What?

[Malibu]

Just a little bit vampires.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spoiler. Vampires eating everybody. And just, like, just everyone getting stabbed in blood and this. Okay, that's the. That's okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

To me, it's more like, like, Southern drama tease with, like. And with elements of horror. Like, when I think horror, I think weapons, which also Amy Madigan won, but I don't know if Remy. I guess it is.

[Malibu]

Technically, there was not even one jump scare.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what. That's how I think.

[Malibu]

There's no jump scares. It wasn't that gory. It was. There was a little bit of blood, but it was, like, mostly. It was mostly story and fighting.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Malibu]

Fighting them.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it was just nothing but blood and gore. I mean, loved, but, like, that was crazy. Like, it was a good story, so I loved it. But, like, the gore was insane. I was just, like, had nightmares the past three nights in a row.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it kind of reminds me more of, like, a True Blood. Like, even though I know True Blood is, like, more, like, sexy and erotic, but it still has, like, blood and stuff to it. So that's how I kind of viewed it. Like, more vampire tease versus, like, horror.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I was not giving Twilight. I'll tell you that. Well, yeah. Okay. But it didn't make me feel. And I love a movie that makes me feel. And it was more than just a. It made me like feel, you know, made me feel like, oh, it. Like it hurts you, you know, so it's just like I felt it, I liked it. And more than I can say for Marty supreme, honestly, you know, everyone was being like, oh, lots of this. I said from the beginning, by the way, like weeks ago, whenever we saw Marty Supreme. Love Timmy. Love Kylie, Love Chris. Like, I love throwing Chris in there. Well, she's, you know, she's the manager. She's the hustle of it all. And I love them, you know, she's doing together damage control for sure. Love them, like, want to be a part of that group more than anything. But Mario supreme was not good. And it was just okay. It was okay. It was mid. It was like, what is happening? There's so much going on. Like I said that about the acting too, but it was good. I don't know if it's like Oscar worthy, you know what I mean? And it's like that's why when he's doing all awards, like, okay, I guess I haven't seen the other one, so maybe. But now that I've seen Sinners, I was like, well, he should have probably been winning the whole time. It was like way better acting. Not that I'm an actor judge. He's playing two people.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, you know, Timothy wasn't Timothy's weighing one person, Marty, just Marty. And he was playing two people. And I was so gagged. I was so gagged. In fact, he was so good at the beginning. Like, is this the same. Is this the same actor or is it different actors? Like, I was kind of gagged.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, he's really working, like really good. And also like acting with yourself too. Like, that's wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

And in that capacity and that intensity, especially at the end, like, you know, just like I'm feeling so much from these two people talking to themselves. It's giving Lindsay and Plan a trap Actor. Yes, it was very good. I really, really wish I could have been in that movie Sinners.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was going to say you would have been good. You have to do a little a tik tok of you saying the Haley Steinfeld like line that like I. It was a meme like when it came out. I feel like it's going to get the resurgence. I had to look up the exact quote cuz I do love it so much in the southern accent. I heard you Loud and clear. But then you stuck your tongue in my cousin me so hard. I figured you changed your mind.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was a good line. That was like, her first line too. I was like, oh, okay. Damn. I was like, oh, okay, we're already here. She kind of did E. But I would have loved. I guess I'm a little too old for that role. I would have loved to been maybe the other vampire, the one with the crazy teeth at the Oscars.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Maybe that movie's not the right role for me, but I do like them. I did like that movie. I like it. I like feelings. I would like to be part of a movie that feels something. Maybe weapons, I guess. Like, I could have been, like, a Gladys and weapons or something. I just want to be a part of something that feel, I guess it's horror, I guess. Cast me in a horror movie. Like, I guess that's where we're at. Charlie XCX is gonna be in a Takashi McKay horror movie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, he's like, the ultimate, like, Japanese horror film director. And I was like, look at everything. All right, maybe one day. Me and Roseanne and Pansino. Scream queens.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah, I forgot she had her scream queens.

[Trisha Paytas]

She never got to be in one

[Moses Hacmon]

now horror movie and now horror movies. Looks like that's the way to go for your. For your Oscar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I suggest. I know we don't. You know, we don't have on that much, but I feel like Shane Dawson should direct horror films because he loves horror, and instead of doing this canceled one, he should turn it into, like, a horror film, because I feel like the direction he's going is giving 2017 vibes. And I think we need to go 2027, Sheen, because, like, that's where you succeed in. I don't really. You know, we don't really each other anymore, but, like, I. I think that's your talent, and I think that's where you need to go. And I was thinking about him. I was like, he should do that. He should do a horror movie about his life, maybe. Oh, T. You know, because it's kind of a horror movie the way he describes it, you know, so dramatic, you know, and there are some horrors.

[Moses Hacmon]

You were talking to drama channels.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shane. I'll get off, get off live right now. Get off. Like, that was my favorite is Riley. That's very Moses.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is kind of a horror movie tease, though. Get off, get off right now. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's lying. She's dying. I mean, back then, too Everybody was suspense. Hang on to your life. Like, what happened? Oh, my God. He cut him off live after 1 minute, 20 seconds. Like, and then you always wonder, like, back when I had no life. So I'm always wondering, like, what are they doing now? What are they spiraling? What are. You know what I mean? You just think, like, what happens when you shut that camera off? Are you just a normal person or are you spiraling like me? Like, if I would shut the camera off, I'm like, spiraling. I'm like looking every minute to see if someone responded to me like I want. Or are they just like, normal and they're just like, okay, let's just get off and go for a walk.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like at that moment in time, everyone was kind of seated, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

But you think like Shane and Ryland 2 were still up in arms after they were done with the Tati?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I think so. That was. That was a bombshell, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess some things happen. Now I'm just like, okay, let's just go for a walk. And then I'm like, okay. Like, I don't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Honestly. Yeah, me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Moses Hacmon]

Back then, that was everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was world.

[Moses Hacmon]

Stop. Yeah, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess being your 20s, is that we're in our 20s or probably a shame. We're in our 30s. We're probably 31.

[Moses Hacmon]

What? That. That's seven years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seven? Yeah. 31. 38 this year. Wow. A little too old. Just like Taylor. Frankie Paul's 31. Secret lies. We'll get into that too, but like, secret lies. Tiffany Girl, 31. I'm like too old. Too old for. You know, there is an age where you are too old to be acting a certain way. And I do think that is 31. I think 30 you just hit. Planning a wedding shouldn't feel overwhelming. The knot brings everything together in one place. Vendors who get your vibe, a custom planning checklist, guest list, tools, and a free wedding website that syncs with it all. So instead of juggling a dozen apps and spreadsheets, you can actually enjoy getting married. Get [e-mail] audio the knot. Let's plan your wedding together this Easter.

[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

30. Okay. You're welcome to the 30s. 31. You're too old to be doing mess and drama unless it's cute and it's making you and you're monetizing off of it. But, like, also, like, not too messy, you know what I mean? But yeah, back then Tati though, I mean, she might have been like 37 back then. That's real. Really too much. You know, we looked her up. I think she's like 43 now. Nice, Jamie. I'm just saying, you know, at a certain age, even now, if someone brought me into drama, it's like, you know, you have to rise above a little bit. You can't be like, you know, spiraling on. Live the instant something happens.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, back to the Oscars. Since you worked it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you want to say anything? Sorry.

[Malibu]

Sinners was good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, sorry.

[Malibu]

Yes. Very good message, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You loved it. You liked it?

[Malibu]

Yeah. First of all, cinematography. I was mentioning how beautiful it was and then it won for cinematography.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did you love the skies at the beginning? Like, this is so peaceful.

[Malibu]

I was like, beautifully shot, beginning to end. And then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I ask how they shoot that? How do they make it look like the 1930s? Like everybody looked like a person from the 1930s. Like, not just the costumes and like everything, but everyone looked like a 1930s person in the background, like at the train station.

[Moses Hacmon]

Huh.

[Malibu]

Casting. Good casting. Don't they have now Oscar for casting too? Yes, like a new category.

[Trisha Paytas]

So who just look like they're from the 1930s, that's like in their everyday life today.

[Malibu]

And you extend it, you know, like push it even more. The wrinkles and the cracks.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess if you're a natural face too. They're probably like no filler.

[Moses Hacmon]

No. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone just looked like they were from that era. It was so interesting. I was like, well, that's kind of everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Malibu]

And the message was really good. And it was just. It was good. It was. It was a movie that worked on many different layers and levels. And that's what was nice about it. And they had that one scene when they introduced like the idea of the music, how the music lives through all generations. And there's something about music that's so unique. And then they brought in, you know, from shamans to modern day hip hop and DJs and all. And they all kind of like were in that one scene in that house together. And the music was amazing in that scene.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Malibu]

So there was a lot of good, good moments in that movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

We watched Frankenstein next. It was between that or Frankenstein and we're like, let's do Sinners. Because everyone was saying that was the one to win. And everyone was right. Apparently. You were right. You've been saying that for a while, which I was. It came out of nowhere for me because, like, I hadn't seen Sinners. I wasn't familiar with Sinners. And then, like, you were saying it and everyone was saying it, I was like, oh, because I've only seen Timothy Shaman 1. And I was like, I guess that's the only good movie out this year.

[Moses Hacmon]

But yes, I honestly am not, like, as we know, an Oscar girl,

[Trisha Paytas]

you're Oscar.

[Moses Hacmon]

But because, like, really the only nominees I saw were Sinners and I mean, K Pop, Demon Hunters and Marty Supreme. That's pretty much it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, same.

[Moses Hacmon]

So, yeah, Insomnia is like a blockbuster. I mean, it literally was like number one for weeks. They had to bring it back on imax. Yeah. Like, it was and was shady because when it first came out last year, there was like, articles about, like, even though it came out number one, there was articles like, oh, it's. It's not making his money back. Oh, it's like, Loot is not a profitable film. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And so there were some, like, hit pieces on it when it came out. But then literally, it has, like, a lot of staying power. It stayed number one for weeks. There was such a demand for it that they had to bring it back into imax, like, months later because the IMAX screenings were selling out. And then they just brought it back to IMAX again last month ahead of Oscars. And yeah, there was just once all that was happening, I was like, oh, I need to see this.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're really trying to hit piece everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. But, yeah, I was really happy. Happy for. And I love the whole cast. I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I was so happy for Michael B. Jordan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. No, they were all amazing. It was all amazing. I was surprised. It was definitely horror, though. Like, just be born. I'm just like, if there's blood involved. And I was just like, okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

What I know a lot of people have been also been saying is horror. I guess, like, I just. I just have a different. Like, in my mind, I categorize it differently. But if you had to give it a drama, I would, I guess technically hoard drama.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, it was a lot, but it was good. And I guess we should see. I don't want to See weapons, but we definitely. I want to see Frankenstein. Although Jacob Lord, he did lose the Oscar. Biggest. Biggest snub. Who. Do you think anyone got snubbed last night?

[Moses Hacmon]

I. I don't think Marty supreme was snubbed, like you said, because I thought it was good. It was, like, fine. But, like, I do think between sinners and, like, one battle after another, like, yeah, those ones would win. I don't. I haven't even seen one battle after another. But reading what everyone's saying about it, I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

You liked it.

[Malibu]

Sean Penn definitely deserves the Oscar for that performance he gave, and I don't like him at all, but he was amazing, so that one did stand out. And. Yeah, and then I. DiCaprio. This seemed to be, like, a very strong, you know, like, PR machine behind him now, kind of reviving his image.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think Sean Penderson want to show up?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think so, because he showed up to other awards.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's so annoying. He's so pretentious. Like, he is. I know so many people who know him, and he's an actual actor, and I think he's just so pretentious. Like you said, you show him to other things. And this one, which is like, you know, a big movie, and it's also just, like, such a statement movie, too. And it's like, obviously his character is, like, you know, so relevant nowadays to, like, what's happening in the world. And it's like, at least stand behind a movie. Like, if you want to be Effie, whatever, go up there and give a speech about whatever you want to give a speech about. Like, use your. Use the platform to talk about something else. You know, like, I think it was Marlon Brando sent Native American to talk about, you know, in. In the 80s, like, you know, in place of him for the Oscars, because he wanted to spread a message, and that's a platform. So.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's an excellent point. I didn't think about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But instead, he wants to be pretentious. Like, look at me not showing up. And.

[Malibu]

Well, I'm sure he had something because he knows everyone. The industry has been around for so long. I'm sure he had something personal with somebody running the award. Like there was. It's a personal thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do something. Like, it's like, also, I don't think you should give an Oscar to someone that's not there either. It's like, if you're busy and scheduled. Okay, fine.

[Moses Hacmon]

An iHeartRadio award.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mind you, that's where I was going Whoever shows up gets the award. How about that? You know who's gonna be there? Me. I don't know. Yeah, I can't stand John Penn. I do think some people. It's almost like traders in my report. Like, some people just want to be banned. Like, I don't care if you're faithful or like a traitor. Like, just go away. Like, I feel like that's a Sean Penn. Like, okay, cast him, I guess. But he is notorious to so many people. Like it professionally and personally. Like, and I, like, we just don't need to, like, give him anything. I feel Jacob already was there. He could have won. You know what I mean? Like, just. I don't even know the other people, but, like, not him. And it's annoying, but also, like I said, the movie is like, obviously, like, we know what it's about and stuff like that. So it's obviously, like, impactful. Like, show up. Like, Leonard DiCaprio showing up. Beno showing up. Like, show up.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I got. I guess I know nothing about Sean Penn, to be honest. So there all kind of a guy.

[Malibu]

They probably told him, like, you can't smoke here.

[Moses Hacmon]

And they were like, he was smoking, I think Golden Globes or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he's dated, like, even when I first moved to Hollywood in 2006, like, 18, like, the first stories I heard were like, Sean Penn is an. Like, it was. It's, like, known and it's. And it sucks because he's like a good actor, but, like, it just erases everything else. I'm just like, gave me the egg. Yeah. So it is. He is old. Too old. And no one talks about him anymore except for this. And he missed a shot. And now whatever. You had one. You had one shot.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I think it's his third Oscar, right?

[Malibu]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Semantics. There's just some people I just want to go away. And not very many, but he is in fact, because he wasn't there, they saved time. They could have allotted more time for the K pop demon hunter speech because, like, no one was giving a speech for that. So it's like you have more time.

[Moses Hacmon]

A weird show because they put so much time for, like, different bits and reunions and blah, blah, blah, speeches. They were, like, really rushing through everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

Really hyping up some reunions like the Avengers one too. They were really hyping up Robert Downey Jr. And Chris Evans. Well, they were at, they like were teasing it a couple weeks ahead. Like Avengers Reunion. Marvel Reunion is Robert Downey Jr. And Chris Evans who we just saw in like 2019, so it's not that long ago. And also they're in the one that together that's coming out in like out five months.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they're promoting their movie. Yeah, it's Avengers. The new one.

[Moses Hacmon]

The new one. Yeah. I'm like, we could only get these two. Like. Yes, they are the other ones. There's so many that would have like, if you, if you're gonna tease them, like Avengers Reunion, I feel like you gotta get them all. You got, you have to have like Scarlett Johansson, Chris Hemsworth, Mark Ruffalo, Elizabeth Olsen. Like you gotta, you gotta have them all. If you wanted to gag me. Because it's just these two that I'm literally gonna, gonna see do a whole press tour in like five months. So like that's not really a gag to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I'm not in that realm, but I get you. I understand you.

[Moses Hacmon]

I. It's because it's like on abc. So there are so many like moments of just like synergy. Like did we really have to have Grogu on there? Like Baby Yoda with Kate Hudson?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I missed that too. That's kind of everything. Did he fly out in his little thing?

[Moses Hacmon]

He was sitting next to Kate Hudson. There was like a little bit. So they.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute.

[Moses Hacmon]

But they just kept having so many like Disney like tie ins and promotions and stuff. And all this was taking away from like the actual speeches and I don't know, it was just paced a little crazy too. Like it's so long. There wasn't really like any. For all the antics that they were trying to do. Like there wasn't really like a moment that everyone is gagged for, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Besides like I think the people who won that really is what people were gagging, which is good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess. I guess that's the point of the award show is to be.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know, but that, that is the point. But it was produced as if they want wanted stunt spectacles and this, that and the third. And they didn't really deliver on that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you guys flopped on that one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is weird. The Europe. It is funny how like Hulu, Disney, abc, they all like. Because it's like Taylor, Frankie, Paul on the red carpets. Like watch the Bachelorette next week. I was like, it's why?

[Moses Hacmon]

And then it's same thing though for like the Golden Globes. It was I think it was like a Paramount one or whatever. So they had, like, randomly. Boxers or wrestler, whatever. Like, some promoting, like, the sport. The boxing, fighting thing at the White House, you know? Yeah, it was like. It was the Golden Globes, and it was like, we have Connor Story, Hudson, Williams. They're so hot. We have to have boxers come who are gonna be boxing at the White House. And it's like. It's two things. First of all, Canadian or Hudson's Canadian shows. Canadian. Like, queer. So I don't know why you would, like, want to use that to promote the ufc. It made no sense. Yeah, so, like, whenever it's, like, on a. A network work thing and there's, like, the synergy of it all, it makes me, like, cringe.

[Trisha Paytas]

We don't need that.

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who would be our cringe energy if we're talking about somebody in our realm?

[Moses Hacmon]

I wouldn't really be cringe because we would do it even if they weren't around. But it would be like, I guess a Tana Paige.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's not cringe. Right. Would it be, like, if someone's, like, opposite. Wouldn't be us.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, something that may be us coded, but, like, not us. Like, do you know what I mean? Because like you said, the boxing doesn't really synergize with, like, heated rivalry. Like, is there a cringe? Like, of course, yes. No, we love, you know, the therapist. We love the cancel.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I guess it would be like someone really ran. Like, I would go through, like, the caa, like, roster and be like, who's someone really random? But, like, in the, like, signed to this agency, where they would just be like, oh, well, you're a new talent. Like, let's put you on. And, like, they're launching their Tick Tock or something. But, like, okay, they're gonna. Right, they're gonna start being active on TikTok Tok or Instagram. Like, let's put them on. Just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, interesting. Maybe JoJo siwa.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, I know that would make sense, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think it would be someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Michaela.

[Moses Hacmon]

Michaela would make even more sense. It would have to be someone so traditional who, like, is in stuff that we would never care about. Like, kind of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, three boys that don't know who their guests are.

[Moses Hacmon]

You remember Jason?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sean Hayes. Hayes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sean Hayes. Jason Bateman. Right, Jason.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I don't know, the smartest podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Worst name ever.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's a good one. Anyways, me just coming up with a scenario that doesn't even make Sense. But, yes, that crossover would be crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We don't really care that much, but I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I guess so. I guess. I mean, he's cute. He's cute to look at, but it's just like, to me, it's. It's so clearly promoting the movie that's coming out and like, like two months. So it's like, okay work, I guess. But yeah, I think they needed to figure out a way to, like, not just be cutting off these speeches. And also, they saved the big awards for, like, the. The end. And then all of a sudden, you're trying to, like, rush Jesse Buckley with her. You know what I mean? Like, you're starting to rush people at the end. And those are the ones we wait the whole three hours for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So it was kind of a weird. A weird thing. But. And also, even the K pop Demon Hunters, like, performance, like, for golden being so short, like, can't even perform the full song. And it should have been a medley. Like it. I know. Only golden was nominated, but it should have been like a little get how it's done, done, done, and then a little bit of something else. Maybe a little you're my soda pop.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then Golden, I think you're ready for the Takedown.

[Moses Hacmon]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

My girl's other favorite song.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because we honestly have seen golden about, like 40 times now. And yes, the performance was amazing, but

[Trisha Paytas]

medley would have been good.

[Moses Hacmon]

We kind of have seen it, but we haven't seen them do the other song. Song. So if you wanted. Again, if you wanted to gag me. You have the ingredients right there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it different performers on the different songs? Because one time we watched, like, a live version and it was, like, different singers singing, like, the Takedown song.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know there have been K pop girl groups that have covered it live, so maybe you saw that, but I think it's the same vocal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it is. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. See people going to like, like, shows for, like, K pop singers and, like, mad they don't play Golden.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like, where's Gold?

[Malibu]

Well, they. They were confused because the posters. Everyone that's now doing cake pop shows, they make the poster looks like the Demon Hunters.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh.

[Malibu]

So, like, they'll have the singers with wigs and colors that matches them. So a lot of parents that don't know the movie, they just think, oh, I'm gonna take my kids to see K pop Demon Hunters, but it's just K pop. And then they go see some random.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not the Demon Hunters band.

[Malibu]

And they get all upset.

[Trisha Paytas]

And K pop Demon Hunters should do a classic. Was sinners. Cuz they're both hunting demons.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I didn't know what you were going. But I see. I see now.

[Malibu]

It gives the same dandelion message. Is similar.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should do K pop Demon Hunters liveaction horror. Oscar.

[Moses Hacmon]

Honestly, kind of would be te. Yeah, I'm sure they would do live action at some point too. So you might as well just take it there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Do the horror version of it. Because they are demons.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

T. Get him down at a certain steak. How come you can kill a vampire with a. With a steak?

[Moses Hacmon]

With a steak?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

What is the lore with that? Actually?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, I thought they were like indestructible. They're just like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Are they silver? Is that werewolves?

[Trisha Paytas]

The K pop demons were silver.

[Malibu]

Does affect them too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, silver.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, oh, okay. Okay. So it has like ties back to like the 16th century with like, it. There is like Native American lore, but also like Romani lore to tie it back to it. Interesting. Okay, word.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. And the steak is.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know what to tell you, Mama. I really don't know what to tell you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, well, I forgot to open. I forgot. Oh, my God. How far are we in? Oh, my God. I forgot to open St. Patrick's Day lore. St. Patrick was taken to Ireland against his will to be a slave, and he introduced Christianity over there. That's why they celebrate it. And the three leaf clover is the Father, Son, Holy Ghost. But then they brought it over to the US to celebrate Irish immigrants. So happy Irish Immigrant Day to everybody. So it actually is a very important holiday to celebrate and commemorative if you celebrate any of that stuff. So I wanted to say that. That I did do my research and we love. I don't know where the luck comes in. I don't know why we're lucky all of a sudden. I don't know why we're pinching people if they don't wear green. But I do know we're drinking green beer and celebrating St Patrick and all the Irish immigrants like Conan O' Brien who hosted the Oscars. Okay, that was my little thing. Sorry, I meant to say that earlier, but shout out to everyone in Ireland, we love you, we salute you and keep doing what you do. Yeah, we love it. We do love it. Yes. Okay, Sorry, back to the Oscars.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, a French. A Frenchman who caused a lot of controversy, that Timothee Chalamet. Damn. He was really having a rough night. He was really having a rough night. There were so many Jokes about the opera and ballet. It was kind of gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, but he kind of needs to. He needed that. It's not fair to just say whatever you want and not hear the repercussions amongst your peers. You're in the creative arts. Like, this is. This is. You should get a little bit of backlash in person.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know what I mean? Because of course, like, social media doesn't bother. They don't care. Whatever. I'm making movies. But if your own peers and like, the heads of creativity and all the artists are in one room and they're being like, hey, not cool, you know, I think you needed that.

[Moses Hacmon]

That I do too. And I kind of like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we love Timothy Chalmette here.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I do. I'm just trying to think of what he can do to really turn it around. I do think maybe a little bit of time, but also, like, I know that he wouldn't do an apology, but I'm like, it would honestly go a long way because, like, he does have ties to, like, ballet and opera. Like, he does, like, come from that world. So I think it's not. I would say it's. It's like, it's not what you say, it's the way you say it. Because he said that sentiment, I guess, about, like, opera and ballet for, like, many years and never caused. Quite disturbed recently, but he just came across so dismissive that, like, if he just did something to kind of correct. Course correct a little bit, like, if he, I don't know, did an event, like, with an opera or ballet, like New York, like, he went to school, like, right next to, you know, like a theater. So it makes sense that he would, I don't know, do some kind of event. And his mom is from ballet, his sister. So you could have just done something to, like, course correct that. Like, that following week when you saw it was getting bigger and bigger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. You should do a revival of Billy Elliot played Billy Elliott.

[Moses Hacmon]

I. Why do I think that's in the works already?

[Trisha Paytas]

What? Timothy Chalamet.

[Moses Hacmon]

Not Timothy Chalamet, a Billy Elliott movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's playing Billy Elliot? This is like the one all the boys used to play when they were, like, younger. This was like the show on Broadway to be in.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, there is a tour. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

[Trisha Paytas]

He could. He could be in that. He, like, honestly. Yeah, he. Yeah, honestly, like I said, like, I love Timmy, but, like, yeah, what you say, especially like, your own. Like you said your mom and the people around you are all like, so investing. No one cares is, like, a little varied as I think that I still stand by it. Disruptful. Get it, but also ill. Yeah. But they, you know, know they let him have it last night. I think that's good. I think we're good now. I think, like you said, whatever time will pass, people forget about it. And I think, like, if you're not gonna apologize, you should get a little bit of it back and then that's it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. T. Like, it all came down to that. Like, do we have to keep dragging it after that? No, no. He learned his lesson. He didn't win. You know, he didn't get awarded antics. So message kind of delivered. I think he did also look a little nut nuts. I didn't, like, love his look either, so it was. Kylie looked amazing as always. Like, she really delivered the glam rewore.

[Trisha Paytas]

A Schiaparelli dress, though, that she already wore.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. She had it in, I think Silver. Right. Is what. She wore it last year.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, I look good in this dress. I'm gonna wear in every color.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Which I. Me at Uniqlo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Same.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, that's why Kylie's my sister.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, we do love that. That was good.

[Moses Hacmon]

Everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, okay, you know what works good for your body? Shout out Misty Copeland. When he was here, she was about to go see Misty Copeland's last performance in New York last fall. And I remember being so gagged because she's like, I am not in the ballet world, clearly. I don't really like Fall Valley, obviously, but I do respect it. I love it. I love watching, like, movies about it. I love everything about it. But one ballerina I do know is, like, Misty Copeland. And I thought that was, like, so cool that they brought her out for. Especially for the Sinners. Like, a song like, that was, like, so. It was just so beautiful and so cool. And I love that they did it. I don't know if they did it because of Timothy Chalmette. She's, like, so big in her own right, and she just retired last year, so, like, bringing her out of retirement is kind of a huge deal, but it was just really pretty to see with all the music and the juxtaposition of sinners and ballet.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think they're just trying to recreate the scene. And then obviously, it would make sense for Misty Copeland, too, because she is probably, what, the most famous ballerina, I would think. Right. But it is just kind of like extra salt in the wound that she spoke out against Timothy last week. And then now he has to watch her perform. So gaggy in the front row.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's cute. Know, you act as 100 people in here, but how many people can do that? You know what I mean? Like, how many people have trained and look like that?

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, like hip surgery, like, in December. Like, that's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The longevity of her career, all that. Yeah. Like, it's. Yeah. I thought that was. It was. It's. It's. It's. It was. You know, you need to watch that. People need to respect the. The craft. Because it's a lot. Especially ballet. It is, like, so thankless. And, like, unless you're a big professional one, even then it's like. Like you don't get paid a lot. It's. Your body goes through it. Your toes. Have we learned nothing from Black Swan? Those toes are busted. Like, you can't walk. Like, it is such a crazy sport to be a part of and relatively not. What do you call it? Monetized? Like. What's the word?

[Malibu]

Like, the compensation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. They can't. They, like, literally wear your body out. And then they're like, all right, thank you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, what did she think of Timothy's look after the one you change into? Oh, you didn't see it? No.

[Trisha Paytas]

At the Vanity Fair, I saw her black.

[Moses Hacmon]

You didn't see this one?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know that one's not real.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was so excited. I was so excited. You know, AI has got me.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Stefan Diggs and Jeffree star one got me this weekend. I was like, wow. And then I looked. I was like, oh, it's like Jeffree's like, glam from, like, 2019 or whatever. That one I knew. I mean, he should have it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Honestly, it would have been fierce if. If he did that. Like, wear a little tutu. Like, come on. I missed it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Crack some nuts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. That would have been a really good move for him.

[Moses Hacmon]

I miss when he was campy. Like, where is my campy tween that everyone knew and loved?

[Trisha Paytas]

He was kind of there a little bit. Like, he was kind of there a little bit this year. But I guess. Cause the Oscars and everything, he's like, I gotta be serious now. He tried, like, with the Kylie song where he's like, my girl's Billy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's true. That's true. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he go on Brittney Borowski's World Court?

[Moses Hacmon]

That was last year. For whatever he was in the alley.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Which Oscar movie he was doing last.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he, like, kind of is there, but you know, he's, I guess, too serious.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. I'm a little concerned to how that Dune press tour is gonna go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Don't take yourself too seriously. I feel like once people do that as, like, where they miss the markets, like, let's say, you know, he's trying to be like, I feel like Johnny Depp vibes were so serious. But it turned out.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. T. Everyone's blaming it on Kylie with the Kardashian. I think. I think it's his own downfall.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's his own. If anything, they're helping Kylie is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

If anything, we're being nice to him. I, like, feel like if he didn't have Kristen Kylie in his corner clock that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I'm giving him benefit of the Doubt because Kylie is a sister to me. Like, I. I know people really come for her all the time, but she's. I've always, I don't know, had some kind of kindred spirit tease with Ms. Kylie. So I'm like, same. That's my sister. I mean, I. She. She said on the Vanity Fair red carpet, she's like, love you. They kissed. I'm like, well, that's my sister. She's holding it down for him. So. So I'm giving you the benefit of the Doubt. Otherwise, I'd be with Misty Copeland and I'd be. I'd be jumping on. I'd be a doja cat pre apology.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'd be dogpiling.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're very forgiving because of.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

The connection.

[Moses Hacmon]

Even Club Chalamet, though, before the Oscars was like, really was really down. She was like, this has been the hardest award season ever for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

And wait, why?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think as a Timmy truther, she was, you know, just in the trenches every day the past few weeks.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought she switched teams.

[Moses Hacmon]

She has been. Well, she says she just moved platforms. Now she's behind a paywall and sub stack. If you wanted her thoughts on Timothy. And now she's more for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

No offense. That's crazy. I don't know. Okay, though. Maybe somebody.

[Moses Hacmon]

But yeah, she is promoting Connor more freely, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Which also Connor's story at the freaking Vanity Fair Oscar party. Yeah. Him and Hudson were there and they wore, like. I would assume they coordinated because they both were in sheer outfits. Oh, Connor story wore outfit that, like, Zoe Kravitz wore at one of the fashion shows. It was like, all sheer and his titties were sitting. His titties were sitting. Like, the profile. Like, I'm like, Jesus Christ. Perky pets really perky pets. Yes. And like their nipples were poking through the sheer tops and I was like, damn, this is. Is something fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

You love the nipples. I'm not a nipple person.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think they just have really nice pec. So it's like, it's hard to not. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What makes a nice one? Little or big for nipples? Yeah,

[Moses Hacmon]

it's a good question. I think maybe just ratio. Like if you have like big pecs, then if you have tiny nipples, I guess that's like. I don't know, it would kind of throw you off.

[Trisha Paytas]

But ratio.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

As someone who's very self conscious about my nipples, I have them redone like three times. I'm very skeptical of nipple talk. I'm always just like people judging my nipples.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't have nipple ideals. I just look and I'm like, that makes sense. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Harry Styles has three nipples and he's very successful. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where are they?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, obviously his titties. And then I think one is like on his.

[Trisha Paytas]

An actual nipple. What's it from?

[Moses Hacmon]

Just from birth? I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it can.

[Moses Hacmon]

No,

[Malibu]

it's pretty common.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it sensitive?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think so, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do nipples do for men? What is that point?

[Malibu]

It's like, because the body could be a male or a female. So it's there and then it becomes. It's like a fridge has always placed for hinges on the other side because some places you open it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Malibu]

So it's like it could be there or there is it Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, it says. So all humans are born with nipples and it depends on like the chromosome that activates it for. Yeah, the different sexes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lactation.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

The more you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's. It is so. Okay, so it's a little feminine maybe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I mean they're literally there. And then the chromosome, I guess decides if how they're used. So. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What about people who are born with both genitalia?

[Moses Hacmon]

I have no idea. Intersex intersect.

[Trisha Paytas]

Intersex. So is it. Do they lactate or they don't. I guess it doesn't matter. I guess we don't need to do that because I don't need to ask those questions.

[Malibu]

It's just a spectrum, you know, between male and female there. A full spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean we ask.

[Malibu]

But even intersex, there's different.

[Trisha Paytas]

Malibu asked me questions. 5,000, like, no matter what, there'll be a question. But why. But where is that? Who did that? Who gave that to you? Where did that come from?

[Malibu]

I'm like, we're always on her podcast, she's always.

[Moses Hacmon]

She'd be interviewing.

[Trisha Paytas]

She needs to come on the podcast. Like, she. She always like, I want to go to work with you. And I'm like, honestly, you could. She will ask just endless questions all day, all day. But I'm like, you know what? Work. I need to ask more questions, because sometimes she'll get me. And I'm like, actually, I don't know. But why?

[Moses Hacmon]

Never thought about it.

[Malibu]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like yesterday with the green. We were making green. We had the green apple pumps and the vanilla pumps, and I was putting a little lemonade in there and the thing. And then she was asking, like, what. You know, the color green. Why is it green for St. Patrick's Day? What makes it green? The little green pumps we were doing. And I was like, I don't know. I have no idea what makes it. I'm like, dye. What's dye? I don't know. Some chemical. What's a chemical? I'm like, girl, your guess is as good as mine. I do not know. And I was like, I need to start asking more questions. So I do feel the need to follow up with everything because I have so many questions about nipples now. But I guess we can move on from that or go to Patreon if you want to see more nipple talk. I suppose I did not get invited to the Vanity Fair party. I would like to go to Vanity Fair. If I got invited, I go to that party.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I was. I was. It was funny because this year, the M.O. from, like, from VF, if you will, was to make it, like, more exclusive, because usually it starts, like, at, like, 2. It goes alongside the Oscars. Like, you could watch the Oscars at the party. So it really starts at, like, 3 or 4. Typically. Yeah. But this time they changed it up. And then now it was starting after the Oscars because they wanted to make it, like, a little bit more. More exclusive. Like, highbrow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Nobody was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nobody. Yeah, you had to be, like, a nominee to get there, basically.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well,

[Trisha Paytas]

but usually I used to know people, like, billionaires would go and, like, like. And they could not go this year. They were like. They were not.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I think they were really trying to make it so it was like, just a listers, basically. Who gagged me the most, though, was I was, like, watching our live feed of, like, the interviews, and then I see Hasan Piker walking in the background, and I panic. I was like, like, that's a song. And I text any directo who was doing the interviews, and I said, because I watched Hassan walk by and pass him Denny. And I was like, you need to call back Hasan Piker right now. He is so hot. But I don't think he knew what I like who I was talking about because he went, oh my God, I know there's so many hot people tonight. And I was like, no, Hasan, like lock in.

[Trisha Paytas]

So then when I sure was him, I didn't see anyone talk about it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Trust me, it was. And then once I saw I knew Denny was like a dead end. I just went directly to Hasan's DMs who has never opened my DM DMS. I look back, I'm like, damn, I do DM him a lot for someone who doesn't follow me and also doesn't check dms. But nonetheless I persisted and I was like, turn around right now and go talk to et. And I was like, also, if you ever need a gay understudy, if Austin show can't make it, I'm available. So I still pitch myself.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good thing you're doing the rounds on the podcast because I feel like once people see that you're doing podcasts. Yeah. First of all, I love a press tour I used to do. I used to do press tours all the time when I was trying to like just rebrand. I feel like now I try and like pick and choose like I am. I'm trying to keep all mind for when I'm promoting something. But Tana Mongeau will do a press tour too for no reason. And I love it. Yeah, she'll like New York. She'll be like, I'm just so busy. I'm doing 12 podcasts. So good, so good, so good. Spring styles are at Nordstrom Rack stores now and they're up to 60% off. Stock up and save on Rag and Bone, Madewell, Vince, All Saints and more of your favorites. How did I not know Rack has Adidas? Why do we rack for the hottest deals? Just so much. Many good brands join the NordicLub to unlock exclusive discounts. Shop new arrivals first and more. Plus buy online and pick up at your favorite Rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you Rack experience a membership that backs what you're building with American Express Business Platinum. Get 2 times Membership Rewards points per dollar on eligible purchases in key business categories, as well as on each eligible purchase of $5,000 or more on up to $2 million in eligible purchases per calendar year. American Express Business Platinum there's nothing like it. Terms apply. Learn more@american express.com business platinum something coming I was like, no, I love it. I used to do that too. And I still would if I didn't have something coming out. And everyone be like, wait till something comes out. Talk about stuff. But. But now that people see you, I feel like people will ask because that's always how it works. Like when I would do one podcast. Oh, she does podcasts. Like, we'll ask her to do ours.

[Moses Hacmon]

Y. And like, if you need a gay, like, I'm available. Yeah. And then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, does he have you talk to him ever?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I don't think he knows I exist, but everyone else on that podcast with them knows I exist.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like, okay. So if there needs to be a replacement as a fill in.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I also was like, okay, like, I'm going to post a TikTok of Hasan on ET and like, I really want him to see it, and I feel like he wouldn't see it. So then I tagged Austin show and Christian, who, like, are Hasan's best gays. Because I'm like, I don't think he would see it, but I think his chronically online gays would see it. And within five minutes, they're. They're asking, like, did you post this? They clocked me immediately. I was like, damn, what was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

What'd you post?

[Moses Hacmon]

Just like a Hassan piker looks handsome as ever at the Vanity Fair Oscar party. I want I. My original caption was looks handsome and woke. But I was like, I think I would get in trouble.

[Trisha Paytas]

So for Entertainment Tonight.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

On business hours. On business hours. I had. I had an agenda.

[Trisha Paytas]

I kind of love that, though. I kind of love that when people know it's you. This Oscar.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know the clothes clocked expeditiously.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I guess because at first Austin was like, I don't know why ET like, he post, like, he tweeted, like, why did they tag me? And then Christian.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's Oscar for sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So maybe we'll do a gay swap one day.

[Moses Hacmon]

Actually would live. Austin would, like, be scared than ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Obviously, I'd be sad, but I mean, I always talk about Austin. Sh.

[Moses Hacmon]

You're in good hands with Austin and Christian especially, because Christian is like a musical theater dance. He's like, new. Yeah. Went to, like, art school. He's fierce. I love Christian. I know. Us just volunteering.

[Trisha Paytas]

We don't want to go there. Me just being like, we'll swap you guys out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Gay swap.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, gay swap. Like wife swap.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's actually beer's show idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I live.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'd be so fun.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I'm like, I'm. I'm hoping that little Hasan promo.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would be cute. I would like to do on that. You do have. You do have great chemistry with everyone. Much like my. Myself, I feel like you, like, I do like seeing you on other podcasts, and everyone loves you on there because it's like, yeah, of course. You just. You have good chemistry where it's really you. That's how I feel, though, when I go. It's also. I just have good chemistry. You know what I mean? But that's why we're good together. I said that the other day. I think we were talking, like, off after page. I'm like, honestly, we're just really good because we're so good by ourselves, but together we are. You know what I mean? So that's why we are the perfect. But when you go on others, you just see how charismatic you are.

[Moses Hacmon]

I am very intrigued by that situation, though. Like, I don't know if he would. Hasan Piker would be intrigued by me or, like, just confused and not know how to, like, how to handle well,

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that's, like, the risk. Yeah. I always want you to do what you want to do and live your life, but the fact that you could be poached from me is a little scary. But I say let things happen. Let them. You know, whatever you want to do. And if it's Hasan, I know that'd be, like, your dream.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I don't know if that's my. My dream. I think for. For a day swap, it's kind of like, literally at the wife swap, like, episodes where they're, like, so excited to get a change of pace.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And they're like, the lifestyle is so different that they're like, wow, maybe the grass is not greener. Granted, I already know I would be. I'd rather be where the grass is pinker.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

The concept of it does tickle me for, like, a day. I think that would be funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

You double duty, I guess. I have two podcasts you could do Podcasts. Oh, that's a lot of hosts for them. What, do they have five people on there now?

[Moses Hacmon]

You'd be like, that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You have so many hosts. You guys, what the hell? Like, why. Why not throw me in there?

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw the clip of Caleb on there, so it was like, Caleb, I think, was Austin next to him? Yeah. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was Cutie. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think Cutie was there, but the show.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm just like, no, too much Too many. I need to hear two people, maybe a third chiming in. But, like, you know, that's it. We don't need to hear five people on.

[Moses Hacmon]

You better put me in the skinny corner because. Oh, yeah, yeah, they got that angle, and I need the perspective on my side.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would have learned that for Cancele. Yeah. Brooke was always in the skinny corner, even though she was the skinniest.

[Moses Hacmon]

And Flopcast uses the same set. And they warned me. They're like, well, you can sit in the skinny chair. But it, like. And I was like, well, yes, but also, like, the way that it's set up is like, the guest is, like, literally, you know, in the fat chair. So I was like, well, it. It wouldn't make sense for me to be, like, all the way in the back corner as, like, the guest.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would still take it. When I did Julia Fox and Nikki Takesh's podcast, they had me right in the middle on the hump that makes everyone look so big. And there are these tiny little things in the corner, and I was like, y' all set me up. I had, like, a pillow in front of me or everything. Have you seen that trend on TikTok where it's like, someone just shot you dead, but you're insecure? No, it's like, it's like this. And then they're like, oh, wait.

[Moses Hacmon]

And they're pulling down the shirt and stuff. Yes, yes, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like, they pull this up and they pull this down. They're like, that's like. That's so real me all the time. In every podcast I do, I'm always just like. Like, just trying to be as skinny as possible, as small as possible.

[Moses Hacmon]

You are. Zach sang with. With, like, the pillow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Julie Fox had a pillow. If there's a pillow, I'm going to use it. That's why it was great to be pregnant, because you're like, oh, she's just pregnant. So I canceled. I was always pregnant, so I just had a big belly. Oh, she's pregnant. But it's like, now it's like, no. I put a pillow. I think Zach saying I had Malibu in front of me at one point. She was, like, three months old. I had her sitting on top of me for a minute. Like, just the worst setup. He has to. For what? If he's mad at me? Do you think he thinks about it, cares about it, or you think he thinks we have no beef?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think probably just moved on at this point. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think he ever was mad?

[Moses Hacmon]

Probably, like, in the. In the Eye of the storm during the Clinton Kane of it all. I'm sure at that moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he got he in that one right? He was in the wrong.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think so. But I don't know if he knows truly right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does like you know you air something that Brooke was like don't air this.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, he. But I don't know. I don't know. I feel like he probably like I feel like he would have apologized if he really felt bad about it versus like maybe. Yeah, I feel like we would have heard about it because the canceled finale. She would have been like he apologized. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He gives.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think everyone's cancer. Yeah, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're cancer too. What happened?

[Malibu]

No, I think so. I think I remember plot twist.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's a taurus.

[Trisha Paytas]

What day?

[Moses Hacmon]

May 2nd. What? Yeah,

[Trisha Paytas]

he doesn't give Taurus, but maybe. Wow. I wouldn't have thought.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know that is a plot twist, honey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, Zach saying I don't know how I feel about you. I don't want you an apology but I. I don't know. Hopefully we're okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

No bad blood.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw you was interviewing Baz Lerman. I was like, wow, we have a lot of crossover. Ally and AJ we're really. We really have the same, same people. I don't know how the. How the world feels about him. They feel anything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe not. I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. He always got such a big guest and I'm always just like. But no one. He's never like in the sphere, you know what I mean? I know he's connected. I know he's there. He's doing interviews with Access Hollywood. Like I know he's like there but he's never like blown up.

[Malibu]

Cuz it's different. He's like more comes from the radio world. Like when I'm listening to the radio, the person talking over there doesn't exist in my mind. They really just talk, ask questions. So he's not like an influencer. Front center camera. He always again sponsored the person that interviews.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why were we not invited to the live Moss? I know it's like last week news but the litmoss event.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spencer Sutherland was performing which I love him. You know we love Spencer. We saw the else premier but like I would perform. I love like Benson Boone was flipping for that little new. What do they have a little churro quesadilla. I was like that looks so good. I was like, oh, I would have loved to go. You don't want to talk about though.

[Moses Hacmon]

I Actually just had it the other day because of you. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What'd you get?

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know if you would like what I got, but actually, maybe because it was plain, just like plain tacos.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if you've even had a taco. I don't think I've ever had a taco. Like a beef in a. In a hard shell. Clock it. I never found. Show me eating a taco. Yeah, I really don't like a beef taco. Like, hard shell. Like, I always see them in, like, the grocery store. I'm like, oh, that sounds fun. Like taco Tuesdays, you know? Like, that sounds fun, but like, I don't know. I don't think I've ever had one.

[Moses Hacmon]

You like a burrito, I guess, right? You like a tortilla?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, I love a tortilla. I love quesadillas, grilled cheese, burrito, fajitas. But never a taco.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sandy to crunch. I need a little crunch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sounds good, actually.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I'll try one.

[Malibu]

We'll do nachos. I mean, if you had. If you had a taco that had exactly the same in there, like the chicken, the cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but a taco is usually with like that little ground beef and the tomatoes and the lettuce. Lettuce.

[Malibu]

It could be a chicken taco or

[Trisha Paytas]

that's not real taco, I don't think. I feel like the beef tacos are the one you have to ask for track. And usually it's like, oh, an extra dollar for chicken or something like that. I feel like the real ones are beef.

[Moses Hacmon]

You get the potato tacos.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no potato tacos. Oh, taquitos. No, salsa and beer.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, the. That place, that badass tacos.

[Malibu]

Tacos. It's a bit different. They're like closed.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, but it's like the mashed potatoes.

[Malibu]

Deep fried. It's like deep fried.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like a deep fried mashed potato.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, it's in a shell and it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like papa's taquito or something like tequila.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean. Okay, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Papa's tacos. I mean, I'll have a mashed potato taco. If you put mashed potatoes in a hard shell, I'll eat it. I mean, if it is. It is. You might be right. Clock it. That's any favorite thing to say in real life, too. Clock it. Papa's taquito. Tequila, ta carrio.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, Papa taco.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, it says papa tacos.

[Moses Hacmon]

It says papa taco, Potato taco. That's what it says right here.

[Trisha Paytas]

No tequiero. There's no way it says tacos. Look it up. I don't have my phone. Okay, I'm gonna look it up after.

[Malibu]

I would consider them potato tacos.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Okay.

[Malibu]

They're just. These ones are deep fried and kind of closed. It's not like there's the open shell.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, this is kind of like a.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, so on the online order, it says Papa Taco. And then on the actual menu itself, like the graphic. No, it says taco de pa. Papa Taco.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, I've eaten a taco. You prove me wrong in two seconds.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, there's got to be something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. Okay. It has a little crunch. Have you had those? Have we tried those together?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we tried those together. It was good. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you like a little crunch? Like mashed potato fried?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah. You can't go wrong.

[Trisha Paytas]

KFC had them for a while.

[Moses Hacmon]

I. I have realized I. Now I have to really think when you say I've never eaten something

[Trisha Paytas]

that's not like. Like a. A taco.

[Moses Hacmon]

What qualifies a taco? A crunchy shell with the filling.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, look at the definition of a taco.

[Moses Hacmon]

You really are in your.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Asking questions. I'm like, no.

[Moses Hacmon]

Fried tortilla, typically folded with various. Mix various mixtures. Which. Yeah, that literally is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that could have had a taco.

[Moses Hacmon]

Taco.

[Trisha Paytas]

If we're really gonna get down to something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Got to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where they got a ground beef salsa, lettuce, tomato, and a corn hard shell taco. It's like a taco. That's a taco. Don't you remember those commercials where it's like, oh, it's Tuesday. What are we having? Tacos. It's like yellow. Do you want for those commercials?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes, but you literally talk about how much you love badass street tacos, and then you're trying to tell me I've never had a taco.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, not a traditional taco, but I suppose I had a mashed potato and inside a hard show. Let us know down below if you consider that a taco. And I need it from a taco expert. You need to have made tacos.

[Moses Hacmon]

Street tacos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, I'm gonna go in there. I'm not sure that says it.

[Moses Hacmon]

You should go interview them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's a different menu online.

[Malibu]

I think the thing is, also when we go to most restaurants, they don't have this item. It's a pretty. It's pretty hard for us to find.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they only have it at Badass Street Tacos. But shout out badassery tacos.

[Malibu]

You are delicious in general. Like, I know when she says something about food, it means, like, she never walks in and orders, can I have a taco? Beef or chicken or fish or shrimp. None of those.

[Trisha Paytas]

This one, I really didn't think I had a taco. Again, ice cream tacos are different, but like a taco taco.

[Malibu]

We usually love the rolled. What do you call them? The rolled ones with taquitos. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love those from 711 too.

[Malibu]

So these are the closest thing to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I love. A tequila. I do a taco. I don't know.

[Malibu]

Yeah. Salsa and beer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shout out Salsa, beer, Casa Vegas. Hilary Duff's favorite Mexican. She gets a mojito. What is those shrimp ones? The sizzling shrimps?

[Malibu]

Ceviche.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, the mojito. The tete mojito. Remember those bubbling ones? She said actually that was her favorite Casa Vega. If you had hilar Casa Vega, it's like a coco mojito or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, mocajete.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mocajete. That's her favorite. She goes to Casa Vega Mocajete because it's kids friendly and it's delicious. Just. It is a valley staple. If you're ever in Studio City, check it out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I guess more questions gone wrong at the Vanity Fair Oscar party unexpectedly. Damn. Did I manifest. And flopcast. We were talking about how Jake Shane, like never is any is like so lovable. Never any controversy jinxed them. Well, I think mostly it was Paige and Molly because they said they do. Anyone they talk about does end up like. Like having a flop, like right after. Because it was like the contrast of like, you know, we kind of picked the it girls. Like everyone we try to get. We pick up like has the meteoric rise. I guess theirs have a meteoric fall, which is kind of, I suppose. Although this not too bad for Jake Shane, but he was one of the red carpet interviewers for the Vanity Fair Oscar party with Britney Broski and Quinn Blackwell.

[Trisha Paytas]

Huge love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

And. And some people were not feeling his questions. Specifically, he had an interaction with Julia Fox and he's been getting roasted for the past 12 hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I did see this one. I saw this on Twitter. Where is the. Where are most people roasting him? Twitter TikTok, I think Twitter discussion boards,

[Moses Hacmon]

discussion forums, Internet forums, town halls.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know, wherever people talk about stuff.

[Malibu]

The water coolers.

[Moses Hacmon]

The water cooler. Yeah, you know, the office chatter,

[Trisha Paytas]

the

[Moses Hacmon]

Paul Revere running on the horse.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Now I found out it's kind of that tease. Yep.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Where's he getting roasted every day?

[Moses Hacmon]

I've seen it mostly on Twitter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. That's why I saw the video. I saw it on Twitter.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I guess first of all, contact Twitter is diabolical.

[Moses Hacmon]

Twitter will always be where all the about something. That's for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I love that I'm shadow banned. No one sees me.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, because you just be tweeting for, you know, me and the 12 other.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Literally nobody. No, there's like there's three people that always respond to me and then there's like One of those three is like been a hater for like literally 15 years. It's like a question mark and it's just this question mark is still there and I'm like. And always says something nasty and I'm always like. And I, you know, I never want to like subtweet or anything, but I'm just like, this is so weird. You've been here for like literally 15 years just tweeting notifications on. Yeah. Like just cankles. Like just like always something nasty. I was like, okay. And it's only one. It's only one. I said many. Now there's one. And you know, of my four Twitter replies that she's always one or he or whatever the question mark is. But questioning, I suppose. And LGBTQ questioning is what?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, at a certain point it is just like girl, you good mama?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know she's not.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, clearly.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I don't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean you can find only 3

[Malibu]

people Reply 15 years. They did not find a partner life

[Moses Hacmon]

or head kids, something to get you to move on.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean I hope they did it for everyone else.

[Malibu]

We know they didn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're still. Well mate. What could you imagine? This person just has like a full on family and it's just like a teacher or something. You're just like, what the hell is your problem?

[Moses Hacmon]

Double life. Like criminal minds of it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that does happen. But my, my sympathy for this the question mark. Although you know what? I admire the persistence, the enthusiasm. After 15 years, most people have fallen off all the haters. But. But she's holding on.

[Malibu]

I didn't see the video rejection. What happened?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like what did he do? So he had this bit that he was doing during the red carpet when he was talking to stars about like the movies that were nominated. So when Quinn and Jake were interviewing Julia Fox, they were Talking about their favorite movies that were getting nominated at the Oscars. And Julia Fox talked about a movie that she loved that was called if I had legs, I'd kick you. And Rose Byrne was nominated for best actress because of her performance in that film and the movie itself. I honestly, I know Rose Byrne was nominated for it. I've heard it was great. I didn't know much about it, but

[Trisha Paytas]

yeah, I'd never heard of it.

[Moses Hacmon]

The movie itself is a drama that focuses on the complexities of motherhood. And Rose Byrne is a burnt out and overwhelmed mother and therapist named Linda whose life falls apart while caring for her sick daughter. And her husband works away and she's pushed to her limits as their daughter's sickness requires nightly supplemental feeding through tube and daily trips to a hospital. So it's kind of an intense drama. Obviously, the social commentary of like, how mothers have to show up, up in every aspect of life. Like as they have to obviously care for their child, they have to also work and provide. You know, they have to be basically everything. But Jake kept making this joke about the movie. So when Julia Fox said that like that that was her favorite movie, he said, but do you think the kid was annoying? You know, that kid was so damn annoying. And it's the kid that's sick. And it's the. Oh, oh, that's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I'm assuming he hasn't seen it or knows about the movie. He knew about the movie. The kid's annoying.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know that's what it's like kind of specific. And also it's one of those things where it's like, I feel like he just came up with that bit. You can't really blame that one on the writers. You know, the. It's not like reading the card. That kid was annoying. Right. You know what I mean? Like so. And Julia Fox was like, I mean, we'll also have Jimmy play the clip so you can really get it. But Jimmy, Julia Fox was trying to like educate them a little bit and

[Trisha Paytas]

was like, if I had legs, I'd kick you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. Really good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, really good. Every mother's story, you know, especially.

[Moses Hacmon]

You think the kid was annoying.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I can't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, you know, that kid was so damn annoying.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she had issues. It's society's fault. It sets mothers up to fail. You know, even the fact that like school gets out at 3, but most jobs are done at 5 or 6.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, no, she had issues. And she was explaining that like, it's not the mother's fault or the Child's fault. It's society's fault. It sets mothers up to fail. Even the fact that schools get out at 3, but most jobs are done at 5 or 6. All those little things are position are not conductive to mothering. Like, basically, society just makes it harder for mothers to, like, succeed. And Quinn, she's a single mom, right? Yeah. And Quinn was like, that makes sense. Like, Julia Fox for president. And Julia said that maybe the interview had dragged on a little bit after that was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she felt it. She felt. But again, I think it's a rightfully so one. It's like a Timothy moment where it's like, I think it needs to be drugged out a little more.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's not. Yeah. And also, obviously, there's. Within the past, I guess, maybe year or two years, there's obviously been more and more discourse about, like, influencers as interviewers on the red carpet. I think it's one of those things where, like, time and place, like, sometimes it works really, really well. And I think for the Oscars, though, because it is like, like, I would not be a good fit for the Vanity Fairy Car because I've only seen two of the films.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So, like, it's just like, I know that's not my tea because I can't really speak to film like that or cinema like that. You know what I mean? If it was the Teen Choice Awards, oh, I could run that thing like the Navy. Like, I would be having the most, like, in depth, amazing interviews.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Time and place. And Jake Shane is. That's why I'm like, Jake Shane is a good interviewer because he has a very successful podcast and everyone, like, all celebrities love going to it. So I think it just didn't work in this, like, instance.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, he said that on the Rolling Stone. He's like, I would never, like, compare myself to being a journalist. Like, not at all. Like, that's not. It's the opposite. It's. I want people to feel relaxed and like, I think the Rolling Stone interview asked him, like, oh, do you think people come to you just avoid, like, traditional outlets. He's like, that's fine if they do. Like, I don't care. So, like, he knows. He's, like, aware we were talking about this right before too. It's like, I do think, think sometime and I'm with you. I don't know if I'm the right candidate. Would I take it? Yes. If Vanity Fair is like, will you host? Yes. Will I probably flop or not flop, but put my Foot in my mouth. Yes. I probably 100% would. I've done that. And multiple red carpets are ready. They asked me to actually check my availability. They didn't ask me to see if I would host the red carpet for There's a Women in Music Awards coming up.

[Moses Hacmon]

Billboard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But I don't. I don't know music artists. I felt like, you. Where. I'm kind of like, I would train

[Moses Hacmon]

you up and down.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even then, because, like, Wicked. Okay. Wicked is like, that's where I belong. Even then they're like, but guess who? The artist they told me is, like, Zara Larson. And it was.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think it's Hunt tricks, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't see that on there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just feel like. I just know. Like, I remember at Wicked, Jimmy Fallon was coming, like, interview Jimmy. And I was like, I don't know anything about him. And I just remember being, like, so awful at that because I didn't know so many people where I probably should have done a Jimmy. He was coming down. He would have done it. And I just feel like I would miss it. I think I kind of felt that a little bit. Loved the moment. But I. There were times, like, okay, interviewed this person. I'm just like. And everyone was gagged, and everyone's like, that's that person. And I was just like, okay, I need to. So I'm like, I'm scrambling. And I'm just like, no, I do

[Moses Hacmon]

get it also because, like, I'm a girl with social anxiety, too. And, like, working carpets, especially, because, like, yeah. It's such an eclectic mix of people. You know what I mean? That, like. And I feel like it's a very apparent. Because for, like, entertainment stuff, it'd be like, we would get the list of, like, the stars we know are coming, and then. But the carpets, you know, there's just. Just, like, so many other people that just show up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

That they just, like, send invites to, and then it's kind of a surprise. Like, they're not in the tip sheet or anything. Like, you're not prepared. So, like, you have general event questions. But I feel like it's always, like, obvious, like, it's. It was always cringy to me to ask, like, a general, like, event question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I'm like. I feel like they know that I don't really know everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's, like, comfortable for both of us.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's how. That's exactly how I felt, too. Someone's like, oh, my God, they're so gaggy. Like, interview them And I'm just like, like, what's brat about you? Yeah, it's just like, oh. And it's like, yeah, of course. That's, like, not a good interview. And I will say this also, too. It's like, I do think, yeah, Internet. Like, Internet humor or, like, what works on a podcast, obviously, us and stuff like that. Like, doesn't. The other thing I got tapped on the elbow for all the time at the moment was like, I asked too many questions. Like, because it's too long winded. Like, it's supposed to be quick and snappy. You get two questions. And so that's why, by the time I got to Charlie or Chapel, I was like, I'm just gonna ask one question, not bother them. Even though, like, a person who's in the field would be like, no, I'm not gonna, like, let you go until you. You, like, keep talking. So, like, yeah, I do think, because he. He does those jokes, obviously, like, the Ed Sheeran one I come to think of, right. Where he talks about his grandma. He likes don't work like they used to. He's like, hi. It's what my grandma's like, oh. And everyone loved it. It was a gag. It was a viral clip. So in my head, he's probably thinking, to recreate a moment like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And came across, obviously. And then obviously, when you hear the way Julia Fox spoke, you're just like, oh, I. That. Right. That was not it. And not that. Like, you said, time and place. And, you know, he probably was just trying to be funny. But, yeah, doesn't translate. And it's Vanity Fair, honestly. Like, yes, Always take the opportunity. I think Kris Jenner asked him, how'd you get this gig?

[Moses Hacmon]

How are you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm incredible. How did you get this gig? I love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know, honestly. Yeah. She walked up to Quinn and Jake and were like, how did you get this gig? And he was like, honestly, I have no idea, which is funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I. And that's how I would feel, too. And Jason's obviously so much bigger. He has his own TV show, and he is like, the moment right now. And, like, you wouldn't say no. Like, if any of you asked me, I'm like, I'm not going to say no. But, yeah, you just kind of. Chris Jenner's so funny. Yeah. It's hard. I don't know. I. I know I would be so many of these moments if I was on a big red carpet.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, God, guess he did it again, too, because Damson IDRIS came up and then also said his favorite movie was if I had legs, I'd kick you. And he's like, yeah, but the daughter was really annoyed.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, someone must have told him. I feel like someone must have told, I'm gonna give him benefit out Jake. I think someone, because there was one on the red carpet that they gave us. They kept giving me something to ask. I'm like, oh, I don't know. Like.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I'm hoping he would have said because he threw the writers under the bus in a separate instance where he was interviewing Lewis Pullman. And he. I don't know if Lewis is still dating Kai Gerber, but he brought it up. He's like, oh, we were just in Mexico together. Because Jake is best friends with Kaia Gerber. Kaya's dating Lewis Pullman. So, like, they were already like, oh, it's so good to see. Like, they were instantly like BFFs. And then he asked a question. He was like, when we were in Mexico, like, did you have a good time with me? Or were you guys, like, did you have, like, a group text without me talking behind my back? And Lewis was like, jake, you know I love you. I would never say that. And Jake goes, yeah, I know. It was just written on my card. So, like, threw the riders under the bus instantly. So I think if he struck out twice, I feel like he would blame the writer again. I could be wrong. Maybe Jake will come forward and just speak his truth. But I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

He hasn't said anything since.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think so. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he said the exact same thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, exact same thing. The daughter's annoying and Damson Idris is like, I didn't really see that. Like, it was really awkward.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah. So we did it twice, which is a little nuts. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, once. One thing's not working. I did learn that. I've done two carpets. And that one, I learned one thing's not working. We just. We pivot. We're like, not. Not that way one.

[Moses Hacmon]

But also, again, me playing both sides. But also it's, like, so over stimulating. And there's so many people also, they're live. So you have so many things, like, in your ear that it's also hard to be present and, like, and adapt because it's just, like, so fast. So many people tossing to Brittany Broski. Then you're coming back, and then you're commenting on who's walking up. Like, it is a lot, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know. I feel when it's like it comes to sensitive movies or movies about like, you know, politically charged, racially charged. Like there's like, like you always say time and sensitivities that I know I don't know if I'd pick up on. I'm not, I'm not that like keen to do it. I'm not that like experienced. So I think Jake Shane might fall into that category. Especially like it's something like motherhood. Right? Like it's like if you're not that. That was always my pet peeve too. It's not pet peeve, but this is making it about me right now. But like when I did the like gay birth and stuff and everyone's like, oh my God, like men would comment like, I can't believe she took drugs or I can't believe she did this. It's like, you don't know. You have no idea. You know? And it's like. But I would also put myself in that category with so many other things, like one bad off another or like sinners. Like obviously, like I can appreciate the movies, what they are, but I don't know if I'm like quippy enough to like make a quick little joke about them. I'm sure there's jokes in there somewhere. But like I'm not gonna make them. You know what I mean? I think it's like knowing that. But I love Jake. I, we talk about this all the time how like you get really big and like lifted up to be like, you know, then kind of people want to drag you down a little bit and in the, you give them those moments, right? Everyone has these moments like Timothee Chalamet or something like that. And you, when you give that moment moment, people are going to use it. They're gonna be like, actually it was bad. I mean, that's bad. There's, I don't make the excuse for that. That's bad. It was, it's such a stupid comment or joke or whatever. But I, you know, I do think people love to tear down when they can see a moment.

[Moses Hacmon]

Kind of learning curve though. I think it was trying to be a little bit maybe like Mary Beth at the, was it the Golden Globes that she did?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, oh yes, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

She like, but you could tell she was also very prepared. Also. She, she's a stand up comedian.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so different.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's so different.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, I, I, I agree. I, because people like Trisha, you're funny or whatever. It's like I'm not like stand up Comedy funny, where I'm gonna be just like with the jokes and the delivery, like, very prepared. Yes. We have to be really prepared. And yeah, she was good. It's very. I think Jake Shane said in the same Rolling Stone he used to watch like Joan Rivers all the time. I loved her. So maybe trying to give a little bit of it. Yeah, but it's very few. Again, you have to be a certain kind of. You have to be Joan Rivers or something to do that because it's like very few can pull off.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but I gotta. Quinn Blackwell though, is such a key. Like, she was cracking me up in all these clips I've seen. Because also what? It was the same interview, the Damson Idris one. But he walked away and she was like. It was so like candid that I was almost like, does she know that it's still live? Because she was like, girl. And she was like. He was like. And Jake was kind of confused and she goes, let me give you the tea. Like, I slid into his DMS when I was 21 and he left it on scene. And then I saw him out in a club like a year later and he just came up to me and was like, saw your dms and then walked away. And then before the interview, when Damson came up to do the interview with Jake and Quinn, he like whispered her. She's like. He came up to me and he said, now let's don't get cheeky.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is all on the mic.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes, Hot mic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Enjoy.

[Moses Hacmon]

We'll see you in the There,

[Trisha Paytas]

girl.

[Moses Hacmon]

Did I just. He came up to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

He. He came up to me, he said, let's not be cheeky, babe. I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio. What does that even mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought you were from Texas.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am from Texas. The issue is I slid in his DMs when I was like, like 21. Like, oh. Like, oh my God, you're so cute. And then I saw him one time outside of the party and he's like, saw your dm.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, like, babe, please, please stick mic up in her mouth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Say it like this.

[Moses Hacmon]

At first she was like kind of flustered. She was like laughing and I couldn't tell, like, do they know? Like, the camera's still on them. Cuz they're going back and forth between like the, like the carpet where the celebrities are coming, they're plowing.

[Malibu]

Because she was talking to him, he left and then she was telling the whole story. So probably they thought, okay, he left off.

[Moses Hacmon]

I couldn't tell. Yeah, they thought it was Off. Or maybe like she thought it was at first. Then she was like, at this point, let me just spill all the tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz it's different if you're like this

[Moses Hacmon]

versus like at first it was like off. Cuz also like Damson like gave her the microphone and like, so it was like awkward. And then she didn't.

[Malibu]

She was walking all over the place, filling the story.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then she was like the two and she's kind of confused, like, what just happened. It was so funny to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

The great thing about like live stuff is just like, it's just. It is a little like messy and like be a Conan too. Like, he had a moment where he was just like talking to the audience and like almost done or whatever. And then it's like, oh, we're back. Or whatever. He's just like, oh, he's like, are we back? You never know, you know, it's like, it's very live is just messy. Which is why I never live stream nothing. Like, oh my God, if this is live. If anything was, no, absolutely not. Live is the worst thing for anybody and everybody. It's like, absolutely not.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was killing me. And then there's also a moment where Paul Anthony Kelly from Love Story, they interviewed the Kennedy show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, people love him, huh?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And he's like just so classically handsome. And they Jake and Quinn interview and Quinn's fate, like, she is just like froth, like foaming at the mouth. Like, she's like, she can't even like contain herself because she knows dam only is so hot. And also like, she is beautiful too. So I'm like, if anyone kind of has a chance with any of these stars, it kind of is Quinn Blackwell.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is married. He is married. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Damn. Sorry, girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but they would have been cute. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because she is just like. And they kept like making eye contact here and there. Oh, granted, he's answering their questions, so what else is he gonna do?

[Trisha Paytas]

But was like eye contact me playing

[Moses Hacmon]

both sides of the time. And like, she is just like. Like you can tell she is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is smitten.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. And like, she's smart. It's hard to hide. I'd be the same girl me with Hasanpei girl on fear. And I'm just like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's certain people it's like, yeah. That you don't know would take you aback. You know, I thought like, at Wicked it'd be Jonathan Bailey. And then like Jeff Goldblum. You're like, wow, you're so charming. You know, there are people who Are like, charming in person. And I guess if you're single, that is the place. Like, that's where, like, Juliana Rancic met Bill. Like, those are the only people I could think of.

[Moses Hacmon]

But she was like, you know, yeah, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who else has interviewed someone and like, you know, fall in love, maybe chicken shop date girl. She probably, you know, was Andrew Garfield. Everyone was like, suspecting. So, like, it could happen. I mean, if you're single. That's why I'm kind of glad I'm at where I'm at, my career now. Like Mary. Because I feel like if I was single doing these, I'd be like, diabolical. If I was like, single on these, like, red carpets, I'd probably be like, like, here's my number. Like, I'd probably be like, so crazy. So I think I'm right place, right time. Because they hold it together story.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don't be afraid.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. Also just being old. You're you. Just you. This is one thing I wish old men had or even middle aged men had. It's just like the sense to know, like, you're old and they're young. Like, they.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's passed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

No opportunity.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Yeah. I got just these.

[Moses Hacmon]

Let it go. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you watch any of Age of Attraction? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Disgusting. It's gross. It's disgusting. It's awful. It's. It's vile. Honestly, I don't know, like, how. Why them hosting it is so crazy to me. Why are they doing interviews? Everything they say. I don't know why they have a podcast. Honestly. They just need, like, go do your product. I don't know else I do producing. I don't know. Whatever else you do, do that. Because, like, I'm not a hater. Right. They have score more with the college branded Venmo debit card and earn up to 5% cash back with Venmo stash. Got paid back with the Venmo debit card. You can instantly access your balance and spend on what you want, like game day, snacks, gear, tickets and more. The more you do, the more cash back you can earn. Plus, plus, there's no monthly fee or minimum balance. Sign up [e-mail] collegecard the Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp Bank. NA Select Schools available. Venmo stash terms and exclusions apply at Venmo. Me stash terms max 100 cash back per month. Maybe it worked for them, great. But every time I see an interview is like, makes me even more like, physically sick. When Nick Vile will Be like, they did something. They were doing, I don't know, junkets for the show.

[Moses Hacmon]

Junkets. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he's just like, she pursued me. And I was like, no. Like, I was like, I don't think I can do this. But she was like, persistent. I was like, he's like, all my friends were like, no, I don't know about Natalie. We love her, but good thing I didn't listen to them because she, you know, but I had my reservations. I was like, I don't know, I don't think I should, you know, but she was. I hate when older guys say that. She was 19, 20, whatever you want to say. 19. It's. It gives me that. It gives me that so much. And on that show we watch what, like, I think we watched like the first half of it and then I just saw the spoilers and when the guy's like, I'm 60 to like the 25 year old and she's just like, like what? Like, it's, it's just. And he looked good. He looked good for a day. Just not anything about how they look. It's just like the fact that like, they know how they. A six year old knows a young girl. He always just kind of gave you. I thought you were older. He says, it's like, no, you didn't. You see that baby? She looks like a baby. I, I see a Connor Hudson. It's like they're babies. Like, are they your age? I don't know. Or younger? Younger.

[Moses Hacmon]

24.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. That's. In my head. That's what I thought. I was like, maybe if it's your age, even because she was young. But them, I'm like, oh, they're babies. Like they're actual babies. You know what I mean? So it's like these men, these. And it's mostly the men. I mean, there's some women on there, but they, they try to like go with the older guys. The women too. I'm always like, I'm double standard, whatever. But they're just so. This show is like so gross in so many ways. And I'm just like, I don't know. This is actually worse because you're actually being like, hey, here's a show where no one's going to judge you based on dating a younger person. But like, go ahead and do that as if it's okay. It's just like, like, it's actually like the most discussion show I've ever seen. I don't get it. I don't get it. Like, why Are we doing this 16 with a 23 year old. The age range is crazy. If you're gonna do an age range, maybe do 25 to like 45, I suppose. I don't know. I guess that's, you know, that's. I think that's enough salaciousness for it. What is it, 22 to like 60?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's gross. That's gross. That's disgusting. And you're a predator if you're on that show. Like, you are, like, especially when you're 60. He seemed like a nice guy. He looked great. I get it. My question is why is a 60 year old who's so successful, has it all together, can't date someone. Someone 50, 40.

[Moses Hacmon]

If you bought your house for a nickel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

And there was no color on the tv. Like, let it go, let it go, let it go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Let's go to like a 40 year old.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Young.

[Moses Hacmon]

If you were finding out news via Paul Revere, throwing the newspaper at your doors. I do love that. That is kind of the reference in my head right now. Like, if there was no, like, literally, if you had to find out about the goss at like the water fountain that you work in the cafeteria, like, you got to let it go.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where you got. If you're. Yeah. Finding the gossip on the. On the. On the threads, on the message boards.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. On the forums.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, God, I hate it. I hate it so much. In every interview I see, I just hate it more. And I'm like, trying not to be hater. Like I really do sometimes I'm like, just. Just let things go. Like, you know, like, who cares? Like, let them live their lives. That's how I'm trying to be like with everyone. But then I just keep seeing it and it's like shoved down my face and it's giving. I know. You didn't watch more of my, did you?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. I should have texted you to watch. I'm also glued to this. I'll keep it light. But again, like, like, I don't know. Reality is exploited it for. I just. I guess maybe this is why I think I'm just too old. I think I'm just like, too old because I'm just like. I watch these shows and I'm just like, who's watching this? Who's like, I love watching people in toxic relationships. Like, I love. I love Taylor, Frankie, Paul. I'm so seated for her. But like, oh, my God, this season of what you want to watch and I wish you could get into it. Because I was talking about with Glam earlier. Tony watches it. I was just like, it's so frustrating. Like, I love her so much, and she's actually so frustrating, like, to watch and do. Just be so toxic with, like, her baby daddy, who's like, I don't like you. We're not gonna have a chance. I'm going to the Bachelorette. Bye. To being like, you slept with her. Like, how was. And she has, like, kids and stuff. She has a kid with him. She's leaving for the Bachelorette the next day, by the way. The next day, she sleeps with her baby daddy that she's still in love with that she keeps going back and forth with. And I'm like, I get it. It's like a little like, you know, it's maybe just, like, clout to go on the Bachelorette maybe, whatever. But there could be, like, some real guys in there for. There could be someone good there. But you. You're, like, stuck on someone's like, Dakota comes into this. I don't know. The whole thing is like. And again, they're in their 30s. They're so grown, and I'm just like, I love it. I'm seated for the other girls on it. We were supposed to have Layla on last week, but her schedule got pushed around. And I love the show, but damn these reality shows. Not for me. It's not for me. I wish I could. Love is blind. It's okay. But even that, it's like, the guys are awful. Like, give me a reality show. I feel like people would like to watch a happy reality show. What's the one love on the spectrum? We love that show. We love seeing people in love. You know what I mean? Like, let's get more of that. That. Let's get Whitney and Connor a spin off. Keeping up with the love. It's like, I want more. Even the Kardashians. I'm like, you know what? I'll just see them live fancy lives. You know what I mean? That's what we like to see. I don't, like. I don't know the drama of it all. I just. I get so over it. It makes me sad. I don't know. I'm just gonna watch the Bachelorette, I guess, but I just am, like, so pissed. It makes me so mad. She's so pretty and, like, she is so great, but she is just, like, the worst everyone around her and just awful.

[Malibu]

And people are feeling bad for all the guys going to the Bachelorette. They're like. They're going there thinking they're going to meet someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Malibu]

For her at the end to go back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And you know they are because they had a pause filming today. They paused filming on season five because something between her and Dakota was too tumultuous. So you mean you filmed the entire Bachelorette because Jesse was like, this is a crazy season. You filmed the entire thing and you're already talking to Dakota again like that, where you're causing a fight. Co parenting I get. But you're causing a fight where, like, production has to stop and, like, everyone else on the show has to suffer because of you guys just being so immature. And they try to play it off like acting and oh, my God, you guys believe in everything you see. It's like, no. Like, this is all right. Real. Whether it's real or fake, you look stupid. You're, like, hurting the jobs of everybody else on the show. Like, it's. It's not. She's. Taylor Frankfall is the reason the show is successful. But I'd be fine to, like, see her without it this next day. Especially Dakota. Gotta go. All the men. All the men go. Except for Connor. Everyone else needs to go because the other one, Jen. Jen Affleck's man. See anything about this? You haven't seen any clips. Oh, my God. Did I send you this clip? I sent it to you because it made me think of you. Jen and Whitney weren't Dancing with the Stars and they just show a little bit of. Of it, but I don't even know his name. I do not know his name. The blonde one who looks like a toe that's married to Jen Affleck. He was so. Okay, so Whitney's husband Connor is just like, you know, he basically, like, quit his job or work from home or something now to support her to go to la. They both had to, like, move to la and, you know, they all. They both have three kids, each of these. These families, whatever. And he's so supportive and he's like, you know, wearing team. You know, Whitney Mark shirts. The other guy guy. He gets jealous because Jen is dancing with her partner Yawn in front of, like, the Sleeping Beauty castle. And he's like, I don't really, you know, like, you're. You're not being a mom to our kids. You're. Instead, you're going to do dances in front of a castle with Yawn. And it's like she's on a competition show where people are voting for her. What's Disney? Disney Week. Everyone's at Disneyland. Like, he was so jealous. He was so ugly looking. He's just like, oh, the kids miss you. And the kids this. And then she's like, well, if I move to la, like, what? That's. He's like, yeah, that would. Like, why would we do that? Like. Like, he was. Was so ugly, so awful. They were so ugly and awful to Whitney. They were. She's like, that Broadway was my dream. When he's like, do you own that dream? No. No, you don't. Like, it is so toxic, this show. And I've been. I just had to start watching just clips because I started watching the first couple episodes and I was like, I can't do this anymore. But the men on the show, I will say the women are wonderful. The men on the show are awful. Layla talked about using a GLP1 and she's like, she's tiny. She's like £100. And then even more. And then one of the Mormon wives were like, hey, do you ever think you would stop using a GLP one? She. I can't. Like, and she talks about it like she's just, like, addicted to it and, like, can't. And obviously her mustache boyfriend Too, who's like 24, trying to be like, oh, the kids are manipulating you. Like. Like, these men are. I. You have to watch it. I know I don't have to watch it.

[Moses Hacmon]

You're kind of selling it to me, though. I hear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. I haven't watched one season before this. Season four. I know. And unfortunately, everyone's gonna watch it now because I started watching it too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, you're actually. Your iPad. I fear you're selling it to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you have to watch.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Because there is just something about mess. Like the voyeur. And, like, I'm so curious and nosy. I fear that's why I watch 90 Day Fiance. Like, nosy.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's giving same tease. And like, I. I'm with you. I like mess. I know why people like mess, right? Because it's like, you're watching. It's like, oh, thank God that's not us. Like, we're. We're the normal ones over here. And then, like, I get it. We like to watch it. It's cute. It's cute until it's toxic. And that's why I don't like Taylor and. Because, like, Jen and her man just go be toxic together. Like, at least you're out of the people. Like, go be, like, weird together. Taylor and whatever. They're like, you know, they're entangling Everyone else and their kids and the mom and she's like flying someone out from tick tock and it just looks. And no one around her is being like, hey, this is weird. As opposed to everyone else is like, you know, reading Jen right now, being like, that was weird because she called. She was like, oh, Whitney, we were never friends. Why would I ever congratulate you on Chicago? And when he's like, you stayed with us in our Airbnb in la, like, it was so crazy and so diabolical. And I do, yeah, I do love it. The women are fierce. The men are actual slosh. And I. And I feel, even to Jen, like, I don't know. That husband.

[Moses Hacmon]

Zach.

[Trisha Paytas]

Zach, That's a name. He looks like a toe. He looks like a toe. And you know, I, I don't speculate, but I think what they're saying might be right. What other people are saying, not me, you know, and it's true. And maybe he's. Maybe he's just not happy with himself and there is something to it because he is just a miserable. He has no hobbies. And by the way, Case, I need to also point out, Connor had a job. He was like a technical analyst before. Okay, so he started a job. Whitney was a stay at home mom. It's obviously switch knob, because what needs an influencer? Zack, have you ever been employed? Never. We have never seen you employed, sir. What are you complaining about? He is just like, so, like, stressed about her, like, being a rising star. It's like you're. You're finally getting to eat because of the Mormon wives. You know what I mean? Like, you're finally able to do something. And he's just like, so like, what about me? And it's like, what about his manager?

[Moses Hacmon]

As his like, email contact in his bio, which is.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he has a manager.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it real? Look up the car. There's no way it's real.

[Moses Hacmon]

There's so.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's literally him. It's literally just like him being like, hey, this is Alex. I'm in Zach's manager. Like, there's no way.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it's like a real.

[Malibu]

A lot of different levels of management.

[Trisha Paytas]

We learned that. Yes, there is levels of management.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, you know, it is one of the ones where they have their own domain and everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I've been with those two and they've been a little sus. They've been sus. Well, I'm gonna email, I'm gonna see

[Moses Hacmon]

what he's doing, reach out for us.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the rate card I need to know what that rate card is, you know, because, like, Jen is doing a Dunkin Donuts commercial, okay? Like, she was doing stuff, so I don't know why. She was just being like, a hater. She was a good dancer. She was being a hater. And Connor was so supportive the whole time of Mark and her. And it's just like. And Connor is doing magic tricks. He's like, yeah, now that I'm like a stay at home dad, like, I'm doing hobbies, I'm doing magic tricks. And Zach is just looking at him like, like, what are you. What's your passion, Zach? I don't know. The whole thing is just awful. The other man, I don't even know. I don't know. One's. Two of one's getting divorced. They've been together since they were like 16. They're getting divorced. I don't know know. They're all just awful. As Wendy Williams once said, denial is a river in Egypt. Your husband is gay. That's just a quote. I like, has nothing to do with what we just said, but he's awful. I'm sorry if you're awful. It's like Timothy with the ballet. Like, if you're gonna be awful, just expect a little repercussions. And by the way, before any of the Mormon wives are like, we need some privacy. You guys don't even know. We don't believe everything is dancing. No. If you put your life lives on TV of that's the whole point is for a discourse, a discussion. And guess what? Everyone's watching it more because everyone's discussing it. But the ones that are like, don't talk about us. What do you mean? You just put your entire affair on camera with Harry Josie. Harry Josie makes an appearance.

[Moses Hacmon]

I did hear he comes in. Well, yeah, he did.

[Trisha Paytas]

He. He did a. He made a statement. Did you see his statement?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, he didn't know because he was in the. Taylor Dakota.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, Warfare. I saw the headline, but I didn't read it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And he's like, I. They were in town for LA or dancing stars. He's like, I just came over. I had no idea what was happening. Happening. He's like, I went in the back. Taylor and Dakota were fighting. So I was like, let's do an egg race. So then he went to the kitchen to get eggs, and then they were there fighting. And he's like, okay, I'm just gonna, like, leave. He's like, I didn't even know any of the lore what was happening. It was. It was so weird, though. She. She brought. Invited him over to make Dakota jealous, but then her tick tock fling that she was gonna hook up with was there too. I'm like, girl, it's not cute. Taylor, everyone loves you. You're gonna be the Bachelorette. They should have given the Bachelor to Layla because she really wants to find love with her too. Kids. But everyone loves you. Like, everyone loves her so much. She has such pretty privilege that people look past all her bad behaviors so much. Pretty privileged. But if this was, like, a guy going on the Bachelor and, like, hooking up with, like, his ex on TV right before and, like, true.

[Moses Hacmon]

Everybody would be up at arms happened that. Obviously not. They weren't, like, famous before, but I think it came out where, like, someone was hooking up with, like, the X right before or whatever. And it was like a whole thing. It was like a whole explosive thing at, like, the tell all, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

And that was someone private with a private person. This is Taylor Frankie Paul on the public figure one on the synergy, by the way. On the synergy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Disney Hulu.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? Like, it's the same thing. And it's like, I just, you know,

[Moses Hacmon]

mind you, the Lizzie McGuire reboot was too mature for her

[Trisha Paytas]

because Lizzie McGuire. Someone cheated.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

We can't air that. What do you mean? All we're doing is watching. We're just watching. This whole show started because of soft swinging and divorces and marriages happening all the time, and just like, what do you mean? This is. This is what we're watching. This is what we want. We want to see Lizzie cheat on Gordon Gordo. This is what's fiction. At least we could be like, okay, it's just characters. It's fine. This one is, like, real, and it's just, like, what? It's a mess. I am seated. But I don't like Taylor Dakota. And I wish I could boycott. Maybe I'll boycott. I'll watch the Bachelor. I just can't stand them. I used to be team Dakota, but honestly.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I don't blame her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her mom's a mess. She's on the show. Her mom is horrible to her. Like, she's. She obviously is a product of, like, her upbringing, but it just. She has everything. You have everything. Girl. Everyone still loves you. Everyone. It loves you. Okay, but, like, like, what are you doing? Yeah, I'm annoyed. I was annoyed by it, and I had no one to talk about it with. I did a. I did a tik tok. Friday night before getting ready for our sushi date. And I think I was talking to the abyss, cuz I think I was shadow band. My sometime Tik Tok is like 17,000 views. I'm like, I'm leaving it up. So annoyed. My whole tik tok was that. That and the fruits. But other than that. And I really do watch them. I was like, oh, you actually watch those? I was like, yes, I watch those

[Moses Hacmon]

fruits all the time now. You need to boycott those next Taylor, Frankie, Paul, then the fruits.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, at least it's fictional. But betrayal. And that's what I'm here for. I just. I know it sucks. It sucks because I do love Taylor and I'm gonna watch the Bachelorette, but it's like, I just. I think Dakota needs to go. I think that is it because we're all of Taylor. We'll stand her. Get him out. It's like Chloe and Tristan.

[Moses Hacmon]

You gotta remove yourself from this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Remove it. And Chloe did nothing wrong. Well, I guess whatever. But in my. In my head, whatever with her situation with Tristan. But it's fine. Co parent like him. We don't need to see him on tv. Same thing with Kanye. Like, any of that stuff we don't have to see on tv. And I think that's. That's with Dakota.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know what? Yeah, T, you make a good point. Because there comes a time where like, at first people can sympathize or empathize, but it comes to a point where it's like, girl, I can't help you if you don't help yourself. You got it. At this point. You see it, we all see it. You got to take yourself out of the situation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what. Oh my God. I don't know his name. There's a guy I like, follow. He's so funny and he was talking about more wise and he's just like. I was like, how does it affect you? Does it affect you? Does it. He's like, yes, it does affect me because I care about you. And that's how I feel. It's like we care about this person. Like it does. Does affect us because you show your children, you show your life, you show all this stuff like that. Like it does affect us because you are that person that keeps going back to this toxic. Both of them are so, so toxic to each other. Just constantly trying to make each other mad and jealous. And you know, she's calling after. Did you enjoy the sex? Like, just like crazy, like. And it's just like we care about You. But that's why he said he's like, now I have to just, like, give it up. Be like, I'm gonna be that friends. Like, yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, wow. Like, just that friend that's just like, I'm not gonna help you. I'm not gonna invest anymore because it's just, like. It's actually. Actually so sad to watch. And it's just. It's just like. It's just. It's just sad. I don't know. It's just sad. I feel like. I feel like people really liked Whitney because I guess I never watched the first seasons. I guess she was a villain in the first couple seasons. I don't know why. I don't know how. But, you know, people like her because now it's like they're. She's showing, like, a different, like, path, a different whatever that she's on. So it's like, we'd love to see a growth. And I think now it's been. We're on season five. I think we need to see some growing and less going back to the same bullshit, which is like, I don't know. It's just, like, not cute. Like, that's your brand. You know what I mean? You're the Bachelorette. I don't know. I guess they don't care anymore about their. I mean, not just with her in general. Like, also, guys on there are diabolical. Like, some of the guys they've had, I'm like, I mean, Nick Vile was on two seasons. I was. I was reading the lore, two seasons, Bachelorette, and, like, you're going to be the Bachelor. And I was like, I don't. I don't know what's going on over there. I don't know what's going on over there. All I know is Dancing Star still hasn't casted me, and I was always told I'm too controversial. But those Mormon wives are just wild. They're wild out there. I don't know. It's very weird. I don't know. It's so annoying. I'm frustrated. I got so mad. I never make tik toks on, like, current events, but I'm just. I want to make another one. Because I was like, this is. This is crazy. And the jealousy. Oh, gosh. The jealousy of he. Yeah. One thing I've learned from Tana, my favorite lesson I learned from her is she just, like, truly happy for other people's, like, other women's success. Like, if someone gets something, I've seen a Clip of her and Brooke from a long time ago. And Brook's talking about how, like, Pete Davidson, she had, like, two chances to hook up with him. Do you ever see this clip?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess he, like, DM'd her and, like, they text a couple times, and she, like, flew to New York to, like, see him or whatever like that. And, like, Tana was like, you know, she's, like, geeking out. She, like, loves Pete, and she's like, oh, my God, I'd give anything to, like, you know, be with Peter, whatever. Obviously, it didn't work out or whatever, but the fact that she goes so hard for, like, anyone just, like, getting something and success, like, that's what you need to see if you. I will tell you, as someone who's not always been like that, who's always been jealous, if you are jealous of someone else, which is clearly Jen of Whitney, it's because something's hurting you. There's something in your life that's not making you happy. I'm gonna just guess Zach is the number one, but if it's not him, figure out something else. Figure out what is not making you happy. Because she is miserable. And I think in juxtaposition, like, in the comparison to Whitney Hunter, like, I think she was just like. Because she is beautiful, she's talented, she's in a Duncan commercial. Ben Affleck, like, it's cool. Something's not making her happy. Because if you're just. When she's like, oh, okay, like, she's the star of Broadway. Okay, I guess she could be the star of our Social starring Broadway.

[Moses Hacmon]

As if.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, she's starring in Chicago and has broken every single record. She's selling out every single show for, like, eight weeks straight. Like, it's actually so insane, and it's. It's jealousy. And it doesn't look good on anyone. It doesn't look good on anyone. And I think that was me. I think that's why I had zits and greasy hair. I think I was ugly. I think the ugly was eating me from the inside out. Because I was jealous. Jealous. I was bitter. And why was that? Because I was unhappy. Because I wouldn't leave my house. Because I didn't think I was pretty. Because I didn't always shower. You know what I mean? Like, those are the reasons I was unhappy. I was depressed. How to go to therapy, had a mental illness. Like, there's so many things that were making me unhappy, and I was so jealous of everyone else. So if someone's Doing a boyfriend tag. I was like, losers. Wow. You're doing a boyfriend take. You're so pathetic. Are they. Are they just living life?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, if you. Yeah, you wish it was you with the boyfriend.

[Trisha Paytas]

First guy that ever gave me a little attention. Oh, what's your boyfriend tag? You know, I don't care if you're gay or straight. We're doing it. You know, it's like. Anyways, it's just.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's an ugly look. It's ugly. It makes you look ugly. I thought she was so pretty. I was like, yo, that's such a ugly look. And a lot of those girls are very supportive on there, and we love that. I love women, supporting women.

[Moses Hacmon]

But you got to host the reunion or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it. To host.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. You got to have, like, the real name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Because now I am seated. You know what? I will finish it. I only watched the first half and I was annoyed, but. And I seen the clips, obviously, of how it ends. But I will. I will host it because I do love and that it comes from a place of love. I do love all those girls, including Jen. This is my tyrant moment. We are all rooting for you. We're already there.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is kind of giving that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because, like, it's true. Like, she. She did Dancing with the Stars three months postpartum. She had. She had her last baby when I had Aquaman, and then they did Dancing Stars two months later, and I was just like, that's so insane that you were able to do that. Like, it is. You are going through so much. She's still technically postpartum. There's so much, much. Oh, my. Where are we at? Sorry. Okay. My other thing. My other thing. So Whitney and her get in a fight. Whitney yells. And my biggest pet peeve is when someone, like, pokes the bear, right? They poke the bear. They poke it and they're like, oh, see, you're the one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at you being mad and upset. And it's like. So it made Whitney yell. So then Whitney calls to apologize. It's okay. Sorry. Yelled Jen. Can we meet up in person? This is after she gets eliminated. Whatever. Whitney's sitting there. This is during the Dancing with the Stars. Jen is eliminated. What? He's still in rehearsal mode. She's sitting there waiting. Who walks in? Zach, cuz her and Jenna supposed to me. And Zach walks in instead of Jen. Instead of Jen. It's like, what are you doing here?

[Moses Hacmon]

You're selling this to me. Like, I don't know if I'm Easily influenced. Or if you're just the sales woman of a generation, cuz, damn you. Are you on the marketing or the street team? Cuz all of a sudden I'm like, hold on now me knowing all their names and I had no idea who they were.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, these are all names. Jen, Whitney, Taylor. The most common basic names. I know all of them except for Musty Zach, but now I know him. Okay, so he comes in and she gives a hug. Everyone in the comment section, we're like, we're leaving. No way in hell are we sitting to talk to a man about this. Are you kidding me? And she's like, what are you doing here? He's like, I sent Jen. And like, whoa, why? And he's like, well, to be honest, you know, she's probably scared you're gonna yell at her. I was like, she sat and talked to him. I know, I know, I know. And I was like, what? What? Excuse me? She's like, well, he goes. She's like. She goes, well, I. You know, I called and apologize and said I was sorry. He's like. He goes, are you sorry? She's like. But then she's like. But then they go into the conversation right after Jen gets eliminated, she goes on live with yawn. And they're like, who are you voting for? And check. Not Whitney. And so what? He's like, okay, why would she say that? You know, obviously to like, have a. You know. And at the time, people hated Whitney because let's all remind everybody, Whitney and Mark had the highest scores the whole season. They were getting the highest scores up to that point above Robert Irwin, Alex, Earl. Highest scores. Okay, this all happens. They get eliminated in sixth place, but the highest scores of the leaderboard, so, like, obviously it did something. So she has Zach. She goes, well, she could have just said, who are you voting for? Because he. His excuse was like, oh, she just. He thinks other people deserve it more than you. So she said, okay, I'm voting for Alex.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, you don't have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't say that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Robert Irwin.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he's like, it wasn't with malice attack.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is literally was the intent.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the. That's it. How are people. Oh, my God. It just makes me actually so mad. This guy needs to be booted. He needs to be fired. I feel like if there is that. Because the girls are drama on their own. We love it. They can just be drama. The men can just go eat a bag, honestly, because it's just like, what are you doing? Gaslighting and then to be like, oh, she was scared. She didn't get. And then he's like, well, she is sorry for it. Is she? Because she's not here. He's like, well, you yelled at her. Well. Well, she's okay, but she's not here. And then she. And then it's just. It was the whole thing. So when I saw him, as soon as he walked in, I would be. Hell, no. If I'm like, you and me are going to sit down and then you bring your. You have your husband come in. Hell no. No way. It makes me mad. We.

[Moses Hacmon]

We.

[Trisha Paytas]

We hate, I think. I don't know. I think I hate from afar. I don't know you.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I can't even tell you what I would have done if I was Whitney. I would have literally walked right out. I know Jen is around here somewhere. I know where I'm sitting in the van out in the parking lot. And I would have just walked my up, went to see. Peeked in the freaking parking lot, see where the camera's at. Because I know she's out here somewhere, like, going like this with a little maniacal fingers, thinking that she pulled one over on me. You did not pull one over on me. I am going straight to you. I'm not going to sit here and deal with your shenanigans and your antics and have you have this little laugh at my expense. No, I'm going straight to your.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, what are you talking about? Like, you really thought this was gonna. You were gonna pull one over on me? No, I'm not even gonna give you the pleasure. Because, guys, guess what? I could rip into this man that you sent in here. This little clown, this fool, this little rat that you sent in to try to eat me up. I could eat him up. But I'm actually not even going to waste my time or effort because it's too damn easy. So actually, I'm going to walk around, bypass this little one, and I'm going straight to your. And I'm letting you have it because now you just made a fool out of yourself, and I'm going to let you know that you did so. And I'm also going to let the six cameras.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because guess what?

[Moses Hacmon]

Now we have the camera that's on you and the audio guide that's on. On you. And we have the audio guy and the cameraman who's on me sitting inside. And guess what? Now I'm going to walk over with them. I'm going to say, come on, you guys, walk over. And now we have more angles.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I could really get into you360. Like, I actually am so mad and I haven't even watched the show. I don't even know any of these people's faces. But I'm like so upset.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know. And the faces again. That's okay. And then Zach goes on to social media this past week and calls Whitney a narcissist in a comment but quickly deleted because the comments. But Winnie, she gets on something. I don't know what. She's not tick tock. It's something that someone re upload. She's like on live. She's Shane Dawson on live. She's like live, live. Responding to this comment because it deleted shows. He deleted it. Otherwise I would respond to directly to that comment. But let me just respond here. And she was usually, I'm not good with the clapbacks or whatever like that. But he called her narcissist. He's like, how are you diagnosing anybody when you dropped out of medical school? And I was like, period. She ate him up. And I was like, very, very true. What are you doing with your life, actually? And to call her narcissistic crazy. Jen doubled down on the show and was like, I stand, I stand by it. She was friends with my. This girl that didn't like me, whatever. But now in interviews in their little junket where the six of them are sitting now, Jen likes to be like, well, I was just sad after I got eliminated and you would be too. And you wouldn't want to go to that lunch. It's like, no, no, no, no. You know why? You've been doubling down multiple times saying Whitney is the evil. But then when you saw that no one else was on your side, I think they thought they were going to eat. Everyone's gonna be on their side and no one is on their side.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wanted to switch up and save a little fate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And now she's like, yeah, I was just like really sad. Whitney probably wouldn't do it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don't come here and pull the mental health card on me after you just did all these.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't be a gaslighter manipulator. And then being like, okay, my mental health, it's like, okay. No, it's like, I mean, maybe they probably, they probably have some mental health problems is what I believe.

[Moses Hacmon]

But if it actually went the way that they wanted, they wouldn't care about Whitney's mental health at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

That part.

[Moses Hacmon]

So don't come here and play the mental health part with me. You Know, because it's not working in your favor.

[Trisha Paytas]

That part. That part. And also, get help. Okay. Like, if you're, like, terrorizing people and stuff like that because of your mental illness, I'm. I. E. Me, like, get help because, like, just because you're mentally ill and hurt doesn't mean you can, like, hurt other people who also. Everyone has mental health issues, by the way. I think everybody has some sort of something, whether it's anxiety, depression. There's something. Okay. There's no one that's like, I am perfectly sane all the time. Like, absolutely not. So you can't just go around being diabolical to people and being like, not Whitney. And like, all this stuff in the competition. It's heightened. It's all this stuff like that. It's just like, you. You can't be awful and then just be like, actually, I was. I was. Just got eliminated. I was going through a mental health thing. It's like, no, no, that's not how it works. You may be. But also get help. And it's like, that's it. So I don't know. It was. You know, it was. It was stressful. I almost drank this weekend. I almost had a sake hourly person. I almost. Yes, I had an apple juice on the rocks. I said, get those scotch glasses out. Yes, it did. It did take the edge off a little bit.

[Malibu]

But thank God she's Mormon. She doesn't drink.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's right. And that's the craziest part. None of these people. And that's why her job. He's like, nobody was drunk, but everyone was yelling. And I was like, yeah, that's the scariest, actually, when Harry.

[Moses Hacmon]

Josie is the most rational man in the room. That's how, you know we've really reached new lows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, he said that. He's like, I just, like, left because I was like. I was trying to lighten the mood and be like, let's do, like, an egg race or something. And he's like, I just left because I, like, don't know what was happening. And I'm like. Like, that's terrifying, actually, that you said Harry Jowsey is, like, the mature one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but Harry Harold Jowsy, the voice of reason. That's when you know you truly need to, like, get it together. That should be the wake up call. Truly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is nuts. This is so.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. Watch it. It's worth it. Season four is worth it. I haven't watched the other seasons. I don't know if I want to watch the other seasons, this season is just like, maybe I should to get more backstory. Because everyone's like, taylor's always been this awful. People are now just like, realizing it now or whatever. I don't know. But I want to see why Whitney was the bad one. Like, I need to know. Obviously. There's a couple divorcing right now, Macy and someone else, and I love their lawyer, but honestly, all these guys are just awful. Men are awful. They're awful. Awful.

[Moses Hacmon]

This makes me really like Whitney, though, because again, better woman than me. Because if I saw that little comment again, I would have had the graphic over the video with my little caption. Even if it was live, I would have just screen recorded it, clip my own live. Made it a reel. Yeah, Okay. I would have literally put a little headline up top.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

A beauty filter on me. The comment right here under my face in the caption, tagging him. Also. You know what I would also do? I would also go into the video itself and also tag him. Also invite us. Collaborator. I'm inviting your ass as a freaking collaborator. So everyone can see what you're up to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because if you're gonna be about it. Yeah. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

If you're gonna be about it, then I'm gonna invite you to collab and you better accept the damn collab. Like, that actually pissed me off. So. And then I would actually tell you, my publicist, I'd be like, can you actually issue a press release? As this is my official statement, you clown, punk ass little rat. Yes, Official press release. And I'm going to have it picked up in all the trades. And on top of that, I'm going to have a gorgeous head shot attached to the press release and an ugly picture of you. So they don't even have to do the work. The editors can just literally save it to the desktop, upload it on their little website, type out their article, articles, publish, and then it's over. And then guess what? Those little Google News alerts, you're gonna feel some type of way when you look and ugly and musty and crusty. Every little alert that comes up. Oh, get on it. Really? I did not. I really like. You know, the soda look good. Like the swig. I was like, maybe that's all. I wouldn't you. But damn you. I'm like, my blood pressure is like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I know. I mean, the same. I was invested. And then when they were Airbnb here in la, everyone was on Tik Tok was like, is that Shane Dawson's old House. It was like. And it looks just like the one where he used to dance in his kitchen and stuff like that. Like the really old one. I was like, is it his house? We need to know, Whitney. Let me know. We're obese. Yes, I would love, love, love to know. Oh, my God. No, I need to, I need to all them. I mean, I love it. No, I. No, you wait. Like, honestly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, don't piss me off. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, same though. I, I. A month ago, I called the husband. What do they call dad talk is what they call themselves. I said they were all ugly and everyone came for me and everyone was just like, oh, that's crazy. Like, don't come for them, whatever. But it's like, no. Yeah, some of them in the comments, they're like, yeah, I guess they're like, whatever. But they're fine. He's good looking, whatever. And like, no, they're all ugly, musty, dusty. Connor's getting a lot of redemption, but only because he's supporting our queen. Other than that, I'm just like, okay. And he does magic. Okay, fine. But everyone else, else and Dakota especially, drag him out of that show. I better not see any of them on Dancing with the Stars. The men, the women. Fine. We have three more Mormon wives on this season. Oh, my gosh. It's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wild took me out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, I made me so mad. Like all week I kept absolutely. If you don't see anything about Mormon's, like, nothing. What do you mean? That's my whole it's for you page. It made me so sad. I wanted. I kept sending him stuff. I was like, look at this, look at this. But I sent him a lot, so maybe you didn't see them all. You didn't see anything?

[Malibu]

Not the Mormon wives. I just see people getting kidnapped by dolphins and stuff like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, and the gloves.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, people love the gloves. Where are they at today?

[Malibu]

Been practicing? They're right here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Anything you don't want to show us anything right now?

[Malibu]

Oh, well, I got to open them on. Oh, well,

[Trisha Paytas]

okay. It's going to take me a minute.

[Malibu]

Got to warm up, do some stretches.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do what?

[Malibu]

Stretches. You know, know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, stretch out some fingers.

[Malibu]

Kind of work out the serious business.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean? Have any donuts? I. I brought St. Patrick's Day plates, but they're all the way up there. We'll get them later. I got donuts, I got little leprechauns.

[Malibu]

Patreon, you're getting them ready.

[Trisha Paytas]

Looks like you're going to Kill somebody. My guy's like strapping up his gloves. It's like. Okay. The way you were putting him on though, why were you doing it so

[Malibu]

with a glove on?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. The way you're doing it is crazy. That guy does look like JFK Jr. Huh? How does he look so much like him?

[Moses Hacmon]

Paul Anthony Kelly? Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like identical. He came out of nowhere. He's just like, oh, I just look

[Moses Hacmon]

like this Ryan Murphy will really go

[Trisha Paytas]

to the end to find. I wonder who his next good looking killer is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Some guy from Ohio, I'm sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Where's Anthony Kelly from?

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, he seems Ohio. Did you it?

[Malibu]

I was just doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you did? Okay. Shut the light so you can see it more.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was Canadian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Canada's really having its moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

The hotties, they're all from Canada. They really are. Pamel Anderson's from Canada.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hudson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Shout out Canada.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boneyang Bo is Canadian.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I did not know that.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was born in Australia but raised in Canada.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love him.

[Moses Hacmon]

He gives such love. Like, I don't know in my head, I guess just cuz I know him as a New Yorker.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Moses Hacmon]

But he does.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is New York and I think Colorado he lived in. I think he was like Australia, Canada, Colorado.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then went to New York. Yeah. Did you see Nicole Kidman on Las Cultares?

[Moses Hacmon]

I have my Looney Tunes characters on today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, we love Looney Tunes.

[Moses Hacmon]

We love Looney Tunes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. There Coyote. Yeah, there he is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now don't use.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don't use a little quacker.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's Tweety. Oh my God. Why was she so kooky? I love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

But she is so fierce me.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's just like. What was the Tweety Bird thing? Was she just like high or what?

[Moses Hacmon]

She's talking about how much she loves Looney Tunes. And then Matt Rogers like remembered he was wearing a Looney Tunes graphic tee under his sweater. He's like, oh, I have the Looney Tunes right here. And he goes, oh, Tweety Bird. Oh, Tweety Bird.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was on Molly or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think she's just like that. No, you know, you just said like everyone has a little mental illness. I think Nicole just Kidman, like, we think she's on something because she is just so stable, right? And like has such a nice life that like, that's what a normal person looks like. But to us, that looks crazy because we are the ones that have neurodivergence, mental illness, this, that and the third. That's kind of the vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's just living life and we're all like, something's wrong with her living.

[Moses Hacmon]

And she just seems, like, very well adjusted and very happy, and she's just. Just found a lovely balance in her life.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. She's AMC queen.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, yes, and I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she tell the story in Las Catris? Is that what she told the story?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of how that came to be, like, during, like, the COVID and they were trying to keep people in theaters or something like that?

[Moses Hacmon]

Actually, I think that one was on one of the late night shows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, oh, oh. How do we get the AMC devil words? Prada bucket. Honey, that purse bucket. Tana's texting me. Moses texted me. We need it. We need it. I tweeted them. I want to get. Get that. Are we gonna get that early? How are we gonna get it?

[Moses Hacmon]

We need the hookup with amc or actually AMC an employee, if you want to just, you know, sneak a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. Give us a dm, Email one of us.

[Moses Hacmon]

We'll pay you for the risk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, double. I always do double. I'm like a double double. Because I ordered us those purse things you sent me via Tick Tock. The purse drinks. I got that. But I'm like, we got purse popcorn to go with it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And amc, you know, you can get the large bag of popcorn from AMC mc. I didn't know this. Oh, my gosh. You could fill up those bags all the time. I'm seated. I don't like Devil Wears Prada, but I am seated for that purse popcorn. It's gonna be.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah. They. The popcorn buckets haven't gagged me in a moment. Like, I can't really point. I was like, ooh, that's fierce. But they did their big one. Yes. Yeah, I need it. A purse popcorn bucket is fierce as hell.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's come at me first.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And I know a gay person was in there, like in the design room. I think they gay person designed the Dune one and I think designed this Devil Wears product.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gays around the world.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yep. See? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really do. Can I say that? I guess so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love on Flopcast too, how you're like to always ask, can I say that? Is that offensive? I do. Hey, I got brand deals I never got in my 20 years of being an influencer. I am keeping those brand deals.

[Moses Hacmon]

Funny, though, because I even like, not on camera, like, just us talking, like, regular life, you know, always, like, you always ask that to be like, is that a right word? Or like, Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never want to be offensive anymore because even in my offensive era, I truly wasn't trying to be early on. Yes. Okay. If you're, like, in the chicken nugget. Not that. Not even that one. That was drunk. Okay. If you're in, like, the jogs have brain era. So I'm back at the beach apartment, and I had that low ankle and my boobs were okay. Maybe I was trying to be funny. Maybe I don't know if I was trying to be offensive. I don't think I was ever trying to offend communities. I'm gonna stand by that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like you were trying to be outrageous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Outrageous. So, like, I did one about, like, men being superior to women. This was, like, really old, but it was, like, literally bit for bit, and Andy Kaufman, like, bit, like, it was, like, word for word and Andy Kaufman joke. So trying to be outrageous and trying to be, like, wow. And so I wasn't ever trying to be, like, offense, obviously, the whole transgender thing. And that's a whole different thing because I definitely wasn't trying to be. But I guess my whole point is sometimes I didn't know. Do you know what I mean? Sometimes you don't know when you're being offense, obviously, if you're saying, like, the N word or something. Obviously, you know? You know what I mean? But, like, in some cases, you don't know. Even now. I just don't want to offend anybody because, like, I am in the era where I'm, like, trying not to be off. I understood how it could have pissed people off in the past, and I'm like, I feel bad for it. I feel bad for it. Like, that's annoying. And that's. That what I carry with me forever. And people will always be like, trisha's a bad person because of, like, whatever. Not to get into it, but, like, you know, years ago. And it sucks, but I really just don't want to offend anyone. I don't really like offensive humor either. I don't think. I think I used to. I think I don't like it anymore. Like, the Office, you watch it kind of, like, I don't know, not that funny, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I guess it depends. Like, I like a. Like a reading challenge on Drag Race.

[Trisha Paytas]

So different. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It has to be, like, funny, and it has to be, like, well intentioned, intense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Intent goes a long way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well intended. Yeah. It's. Yes, yes, yes. I think who says it, how it's delivered? Yes. Drag queens can get away with, like, everything because they're funny and they're drag and they've, they've gone through adversity, you know, they've done like so much, you know, like, you know what I mean? There's different levels.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know. I think I can, I think I'm allowed to make fat jokes, but even that I'm like, I don't know if I need to like make fun of anyone for being fat. You know what I mean? Like, oh, you're fat. Okay. There's no joke there. There's no punchline. I think I could if I. I

[Moses Hacmon]

think you don't even do that either. You just talk. Make it about yourself too. Like you're more self deprecating than, yeah, anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I feel like even back then I was like always like that if I thought I had something. But you know what I mean, I get it. Look, I get it. I get it. I offended people and I'm sorry. But try not to. Trying to only right my wrongs by being a better person. But sometimes intentionally I just say offensive things. Like even in real life, like sometimes I'm just like, was that okay to say? But I think I've gotten better.

[Malibu]

Yeah. No, I think you're the most considerated. Like you tried not to, I don't know, like you too anxious to be offensive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't want to describe someone as like, oh, the fat girl. Do you know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I mean even I feel like it's just like also a constant process of learning things too. Cuz like, like I'll use myself for an example. I think I've said this before too, but it was like, I forget. I was like, oh, oh, we can like at work. I was like, oh, we can powow about this later. And then someone was like, oh. But like that actually could be offensive because for Native Americans that has a completely different like cultural meaning. I was like, oh, I didn't even think about that. So it's just like learning things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like it changes. Yeah. I think the word idiot too. I think it's offensive now too. And I didn't know. And everyone's like, this is why. And you're just like, okay, I think it's good. I think it's good. I don't think everyone's ever like, or me too. Oh God. I'm like, I don't think anyone's like too woke. I think it's fine to be telling people something's offending you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Again with how you say, like if the way you can Go about educating people. Some people get really intense and like, I think people can tell if someone has a slip up where it's like, you know, not with malice, you know, and then. But people will just be like so mean about it. It's like, okay, well you're not helping anybody if you're gonna yell at someone and be mean and nasty. Like, if you're. If your idea of like trying to teach someone is like moralizing it and then giving to give yourself an excuse to like be mean, nasty, sick and twisted, then like, you're not a better person than me. You actually are the worst person because like you're gonna sit here and be like a terrible person on purpose as someone who, who like was maybe ignorant, didn't know, well intentioned enough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Yeah, right. You don't want people to like change a girl. And then you're just like. They apologize like, nope, not enough. You still said it. And it's like, well.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then they go and say a million things and you're nasty, disgusting. Yeah. They. All of a sudden you're telling me all this. I'm like, okay, you're actually second evil and twisted.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, agreed.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah. There's just, I think people. There's a subsection of people who just get really excited to like hate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah. Which I mean, that is the world we live in.

[Moses Hacmon]

But now the Mormon wives, men, like, now we have a reason. Yes. Because they're just.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they continue to be. And they keep on social media, not

[Moses Hacmon]

living and learning and loving and unlearning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Unlearning all the way. It's like, you saw. You were awful. Be like, yeah, that, that was not good. You're right. You caught me. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, all the way awful. Leave offensive humor to the way brothers because I think they could pull it off. I think if Shane Dawson tried to do Scary Movie, it wouldn't be the same. Do you know what I mean? Like, you see that trailer? You're like, okay, this works. Shane doing it would be crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, Yeah. I feel like even me going like this, it was very shame actually. I've been very cognizant of my Shane is shaynisms.

[Trisha Paytas]

You do have a lot of shaynisms. The best ones. You give me the glimmer. The best parts of Shane.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, you, you guys. When I was looking at houses and I was like showing them nutrition, one of them was like her review of it or first initial impressions was, oh, this kind of looks like Shane's first house. And I was like, okay, cross off the list. Kind of like that for. It was a good price and a good area. I was like, okay, it's off the list, mama. I can't take any more allegations.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Oh, you're a cancer. A cancer boy. Both July. Yeah, we have a cancer boy. We have July 12th over here. Yeah, I know you really are giving, but you are giving up. You're giving us on today. And J. Lordy, you're giving that. I like this outfit. You look so streamer boy. You look very. I wish you guys could see the full thing. It's like these vans, the Velcro. Are they vans? Yes, Love it. Vans are coming out. The HOKA sneaker. Did you see that?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

They have a little, like, wedge in the bottom.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my impact. Cuz. Those are.

[Trisha Paytas]

You love vans.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love vans and hoka. Yeah, those are my two.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you tell them to combine one time?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think maybe they just saw my vlog. Or maybe they listened.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you say that? Did you say it in a vlog?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I've said in here that my workout. My running shoes are hoka. My lifting shoes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. They took it from you?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Better give some royalties to us.

[Moses Hacmon]

See, I'll be taking off, I guess. Yeah, we can fit a Little Harry Styles 1. Oh. Because I do. I think you also tweeted about it, right? His snl, the queer baiting allegations.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did tweet. I kind of. I. Some people were. I got more replies than usual. I got 12 on this one, and I think six were divided and six

[Moses Hacmon]

were girls were split.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because after being accused of queer baiting for years, he joked about it in his SNL monologue. He said, back then, people seem to pay a lot of attention to the clothes I was wearing. And some people accused me of something called queer baiting. But did it ever occur to you that maybe you don't know everything about me, dad? And then he ended up kissing. What's his name, Ben. Martin Marshall, another SNL cast member and grabbed his bum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who also kissed Josh o'. Connor. Ben Marshall.

[Moses Hacmon]

He did. He.

[Trisha Paytas]

He kissed him on SNL too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Me as a SNL writer, just like riding ways to, like, kiss all these famous guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is actually. Yeah. You're kind of like, okay, yeah, twice.

[Moses Hacmon]

Very something you would do too, back in the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, for sure. Be like, we're actually out of kissing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Pitch meeting. Okay, you guys, so I have this hilarious idea. So, like, like, what if Jason Mamoa makes out with me? What's the joke that's it. Yeah, that's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. And it be so funny cuz, you know, like I'm fat and short. It's like so hilarious, you know, that's so funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

At first, like when I saw the, like I didn't. I saw the clips or whatever and like I saw the headline, I was like, oh, like, is he finally coming out as bisexual or something? That's kind of what I thought it was going to be when I first saw like him addressing the queer baiting stuff and kissing a guy. But I think it was just still a continuation of the jokes because. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh really?

[Moses Hacmon]

The punchline was now that's queer baiting. Like that was his punchline after he

[Trisha Paytas]

kissed a guy saying, okay, you're right, I was queer baiting this whole time.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think the joke was like, I wasn't. I was just dressing whimsical and you know, a little androgynous before, like I wasn't actually queerbaiting, but now I'm making it with a guy. So now I'm queer baiting. I think that was maybe the punchline kind of confusing, I guess, but I

[Trisha Paytas]

think, I think there's bisexuality there and I think that's. I think that's why I was like, it's a queer baiting of your queer. Because he kind of said it right. He's like, okay, like you guys, everything about me.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, that's why I was going back. I was split. I was going back and forth like, yeah, I'm like, okay, but like. So is that you saying that you're queer or is that you just like making fun of people thinking you're queer?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think he'd make fun of people considering his whole audience is that. I feel like that's like not making

[Moses Hacmon]

fun of queer people, but like making fun of people who like speculate on his sexuality is what I mean. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no, I think it's just he's queer. That's it. We just. Why are we not accepting it? Like, you know, I was like, but wait a minute. It's like. But he kind of just told me,

[Moses Hacmon]

told us, I guess. But like watermelon sugar was about,

[Trisha Paytas]

I

[Moses Hacmon]

don't know, munching box.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you sure? Yeah, mine doesn't taste like watermelon or sugar.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, maybe where's the sugar? You know, lemmies, the lemme purr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, sugar water sounds more gay. Like cocaine. Yeah, that feels like a thing. Watermelon sugar. I just did a bunch of cocaine off your ass.

[Moses Hacmon]

Didn't know that was happening either.

[Trisha Paytas]

Munching box. That is not it. That is not the euphemism I would use. Is that the right word? I don't know. You guys, just let him be his queer self. It's okay. I mean, I don't know. People are just so. I just, you know, I don't know. I think he's. I think he's just living his best life. Of course. That was a great song. Why is it not on Drag Race? I don't know. Know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Ooh. I just thought of, like, what your lip sync song would be when you're a judge at some point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one? I love you, Jesus.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think they would use Freaky, because that is such a good, like, lip sync song, actually. But there's many ways I can go with it. They could do a whole lip sync for your life. Lala Peruza. And just have it all be as long as I guess. I do love a Lala Peru.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love a little jukebox. Just. I love you, Jesus. Freaky. I. Me too. Who was it? Benny Blanco this year?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was rusical.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they've already shot for next year, so I don't think I'm gonna be on next year.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're always shooting some kind of drag race.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. I'm available.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's never ending. There's some All Stars, World World Challenge, World Tour, Global All Stars. Canada's Drag Race. All Stars. Canada's Drag Race. Canada's Drag Race versus the world. Mexico, Thailand, Philippines, Sweden, Brazil. Will. It's never ending.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it. I'm coming to all of it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Drag Race, World Tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love anybody who'll have me. I'll be there. That sounds so fun. I'm so. I'm sad, but I am letting it go into the air, into the universe. Rue, use my sound.

[Moses Hacmon]

So t. Maybe we will come around with love. Or just the producers, I guess. Like, come on, World of Wonder, let's get to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think Rose that invested.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I don't think Rue knows until he shows up. He walks on the couch. Catwalk. Got it. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. Got mine. Lopez. Lopez, for the second time. Love her, but, like, she has been on a lot.

[Moses Hacmon]

I do live for that. We're so excited to have you. Thanks, Mama. Ru, this is so fierce. Like, you know, I live. I live.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The jokes they come up with for them. Thanks, Ru. You look like a golden statue. It's not just Trish. It's just rue today. Like the things they come up with so funny. It's hard. I bet they have writers because they come up with good stuff.

[Moses Hacmon]

I Rude has a writer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think everyone else is kind of left to their own devices. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pretty funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think Rude's like I don't care about how y' all look. I'm gonna have them give me the cards. Yeah. I think just a little. That little earpiece. Just reading little jokes in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Little puns. Oh that would be hard with the earpiece and coming I think has one too. He always has like listening.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And they're feeding you lines.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is the Interesting. Interesting.

[Moses Hacmon]

Should we go into our big hot topic? I'm actually so excited. I thought this was so funny. Is the Brooks cold wedding not even just dress wedding dress slash wedding hair.

[Trisha Paytas]

She talk about getting dragged. The drag of the week goes to Brooke.

[Moses Hacmon]

Amazing title to have.

[Trisha Paytas]

She got direct. You think Again we talked about this a little bit before. You know I we get it. She said some controversial stuff. She's apologized. We got got it. The dragon she still gets. She does not have a podcast anymore. She is not talking about anybody. She is just on that one girl

[Moses Hacmon]

in and out who had the in out burger.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even then it was like. Like just literally could not be more anonymous. You know. Langlo, right.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's a better one. Tik Tok. Yeah. She's still influencing. You know. She still gets the the wild Fox brand deals and some third but like relatively low profile considering everyone else is, you know with the microphone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

On a YouTube channel.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's not making a 50 part series about a man.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's just liter press tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

No pastor. She is just living life. Secretly getting married, eloping and just the Internet was like absolutely not. You're ugly. This is the worst thing. Why would you do this? Like Jesus. The slick back bun and the white two piece.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was taking me out because like I was not expecting such like a guttural, visceral just reaction. Again, this is kind of of words like I think there's people who are actively like horrific and like menaces.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who it's like it's kind of. It's kind of fun to have a free for all because they're just like actively in the press.

[Trisha Paytas]

Zach.

[Moses Hacmon]

Zach Jake Paul. You know there's some where it's like it's kind of fun just to go like and rip the girl apart. You know this is like also like the concept of ripping a girl on her wedding day. Also a courthouse wedding at that Courthouse wedding. Not even like, I guess too if she was having like a minute. Million dollar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Extravagant, wasteful wedding.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Fireworks. You know, like the whole night.

[Trisha Paytas]

People magazine is writing about it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, Logan Paul destroying his own wedding cake teas. I feel like that. That's kind of like an invitation for spectacle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

This was just like a Loki. I'm gonna document my courthouse wedding because, yeah, I am like an influencer. This is kind of what we do, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also, people who just get married literally do photos. Like, you know what I mean? Like, people just do photos, post. It was first on Close Friends. I saw it on Close Friends. I was like, oh, she's like, getting married today. That's kind of crazy. I think I saw Alexis Oakley post like bridal glam or something. I was like, oh, damn. Okay. She get married. Then I went to Brooks and then I was like, okay. It's like. Because it was like a random Tuesday last week. It was just like I talked about

[Moses Hacmon]

wanting to elope for a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So she's not really. She always wanted something small. Not really like close with like, her family, like, this whole thing. So I like, feel everyone is like, right, so she wore a slick back bun, which she always does. Which I'm like, she looks the same.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I love how it started too, but she posted tick tock. She's like, hey, you guys, I'm getting married. Like, is it acceptable if I have, like a slick back bun? And everyone was like, letting her have it just for asking the question. Just for posing the question, letting her have it again. Right now I'm taking this moment, like, I'm taking this controversy separately. Everything else aside, because everyone loves to bring up the other stuff. I'm like, yes, I get it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But we talked about it. We talked about about at length.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's not like she's not continuing those crazy, insane statements.

[Trisha Paytas]

She cancels herself, shipped herself off. Cancel. Like, I'm just. I'm off. I'm off.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. So I'm taking this as a separate thing. Cuz also. And everyone, like, I think was it last week talked about her and it was like, yeah, well, it's not because she's pretty. It's because she said this. Let's face the fact, y' all were hating on her before those tweets too. Like. Like she was been getting it, you know, so. So yeah, when she actually asked, should I wear this? Everyone was letting her have it. No. Like, you have such beautiful hair. Wear your hair down, have the curls. And then she doesn't even have a slick back. She has like a French twist. A French twist?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it was pretty slicked though.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it could have been the French twist.

[Moses Hacmon]

It could have been, you know, fiercer. It could have been like, truly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was like, I didn't know there was a twist.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess it was. Turn around.

[Trisha Paytas]

You see the twist.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess it depends on how you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I didn't see the full 360. It was. It was a slick back to the cards.

[Moses Hacmon]

But that's how she feels confident how she feels pretty. It's her wedding day. It's really just. I. I mean, yeah, you posted for the Internet to see, but like, you know, though, she doesn't want us to live when y' all move on and don't care. She's the one that has to live with the photo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. No, it is crazy to me as it is. She would say it's like her own fans, like, love you, girl, but I have to tell you this. Like, that was just like the worst outfit I've ever seen. Why would you do that? Like, it is. It does hurt worse when it comes from your own fans. I do believe, like, I guess that's why people are like the whole parasocial of it, right? Like, I do believe there are people that like her and follow her and really hated it and wanted to let her know. But it's like, think about this, right? Like, if it was a real life person, like, what does that. What do you gain from letting someone know that you hated an outfit they already wore? You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like this momentous day in their life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Where it was like, yeah. You don't, you know, crazy. Have to. That doesn't help. That helps nobody at all call. If it was before and she's like your close friend or maybe she was like you said. I guess she asked. So I guess people are like, what the hell? Like, I guess they felt a little connected. But it was like a close friend in real life before he got married. Like, what do you think of this two piece vest? Most of them, nobody's gonna be like, that's ugly. If you're a friend. Because that's what she feels good and she feels good in or whatever. But like the Internet being like, I had to tell you how awful this was. It's kind of crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was nuts. It was such a, like a fervor. It was lit. Like everyone was chiming in. I'm like, whoa, this is crazy. It was like so unserious. To me that. That's why I kind of laugh because I'm like, this is like nuts and wild behavior. Cuz like, she looked fine. It was like a two piece outfit again at a Santa Barbara coastal courthouse wedding with just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's very Travis and Courtney.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. And it was just like a cute, bright like two piece. And then someone was like, oh, it's off white. How. Why the hell would you wear off white?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. People are

[Moses Hacmon]

decorum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she handled it well. I mean, the one thing I will say about Brooke is, Brooke, I love you, but like, oh my God, we don't. You don't have to respond because I think like getting the response is why people do it. Because they know.

[Moses Hacmon]

They know you're checking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, right. They know the fact that she's not from just like a random follower now someone she follows or anything. She's like literally checking through those dms. People are not all of them. That's like back in the day when I used to be like, I checked Moses's dms, then people would start like back at like the hater area, people would start with me and be like, hey, Moses, love seeing you last night. You know what I mean? Like, whatever. Because they know you. And now people will do it because they'll be, hey, Church, I know you're reading this. I don't read them anymore. Obviously. Like, I don't even remember on dms, but like it once they know that's when it like, they'll keep doing it. But it is up if you're her fan and like, hey, girl, I love you so much, but like ugly. It's like I would block you. I'd be like, you don't love me because. What do you mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

And it's also not specific to BRO because like every influencer, I think Vanilla Maestro like did an interview recently.

[Trisha Paytas]

Recently.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah, and she talked about it too with like her hair. Like when she like bleached her hair. She's obviously very short hair.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

And she would also repost too because she calls them out. Like she'll air out the people who are like being nasty and sending her messages about like what they don't. Like about what she wears or how she wears her hair or whatever. And it's. If someone as like adored, you know, like an acclaimed and precious as Vanilla Maze is getting. Getting it, then the other girls have no chance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, exactly. I do think it is like, yeah, just I don't know. Again, I think I'm thankful to have reached a certain Age. It's like, I can't wait to be, like, the age of, like, Bethany Frankel because nobody bothers her. You know what I mean? I think when you're, like, older. I'm older. People are like, okay, she's old. She's out of, like, the rat race. We're not competing with her. We're not looking. You know, she's just like a. She's like meemaw. Then you got like, Bethany Franklin, you know, meemaw. You know what I mean? Everyone's MEEMAW after, like, 36 years old or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I think I like, especially married babies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, you're out of the range, I guess. I don't know. Whatever people think. Not that I was me, like, out

[Moses Hacmon]

to pasture, like, yeah, just let this old horse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, you can just say what she wants. I think Bethany gets away with a lot of stuff. I think, like, I think housewives in general. Lisa Rinna. Everyone's kind of like, yes, Lisa. Like, I think when you're old, you just, like, let them just be kooky. You know what I mean? Like, good for them. I think when you're young, you definitely, you know. Yeah, just more people judging you. People, I think.

[Malibu]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it Brian Chicken Fry, I think, recently said something about all the skinny girls on Ozempic. Did you see that headline? It was. She's like, all the skinny girls that are on is epic. Like, you're all gonna die or something like that. You see that? Yeah. And then she was like, no, I was saying it this type of way or something. And I'm like, I see that. No, what I meant was, I was like, no, you're gonna die because, like, you're not eating enough. You'll be malnourished. So. So why. I think it's just like, this young, and then people obviously were hating on her, and I. I think it's just like you're in this, like, bubble. I do think Brooke has relatively been quiet, I think, unless she's, like, in drama. I don't know. Set for the burger.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's the last thing I heard.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm serious. I think. I don't know. It's. Yeah, it's. It's wild.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is wild. But you are right when you know they're going to be jumping you in the messages.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Don't look.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is really hard to, like, come for me because I just will not see it. And I just, like, I never. My app mentions never.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can't even DM me.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't even see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, unless you have the direct line. Actually, even then, a direct line. I haven't checked my email in, like, three weeks. I've been a little overwhelmed. I know. It's bad. It's bad. I apologize to anyone who's Dan who was emailed or reached out with good intent.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

But you have to check those emails. I know. That is. Well, I don't even want to say that because then they're going to jump me in the emails because they'll know I'll be in this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I'll be like, oh, okay. Here.

[Moses Hacmon]

Go there to let me know that you hate this green top.

[Trisha Paytas]

That looks good on you, though. Green is serving you today. No, that used to happen to me, too. I have, like, a public email and people just like, be nasty there. Now I don't have anything public anymore. The chef here, I haven't checked in a while. I need to check it. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think Pokimane was like. Because she has, like, a manager or she has someone like, specifically community management, so she never has to see any hate or whatever. She's like, you guys can try to come for me, drag me, like, jump me. But, like, I will never see it because I pay someone to do that, to go through that for me. So I don't see any of my comments.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, everyone loves me.

[Moses Hacmon]

Me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I guess just a podcast. He doesn't do it for my other ones. I see comments. I'm like, oh, they're good. And that's it. I never talk again. So if there is a hate. I don't. I don't.

[Moses Hacmon]

You gotta, like. I think there is a time and place like vanilla mace. I feel like clocks people sp. Like, very. She picks and chooses the battle. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think Brooke, at this point, girl, you know, it's been two years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Of the girls on your.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just let it be. Be in your peaceful era.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or, like, not bb, but get an assistant to kind of help you with the community, man. And then, you know, present you the stuff that is like, either nice comments or good constructive feedback.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, and not just that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, if you want to know the truth, this is what people say and doesn't have to be the harsh ones that are like, you're ugly or like, your bun sucks. She said she loved it and she should have leave it at that. Like, I thought I looked beautiful. I was like, ben, that. That's it. Period. Done. It is. It is wild. I don't know the Internet Is crazy. I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is really crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Hot Topics today. They were hot.

[Moses Hacmon]

We came in. Yeah. You started off March being like, lucky era. No enemies. Like, love everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no enemies. Except for Zach.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was gonna say. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But everyone else, I'm still lucky, I

[Moses Hacmon]

guess, maybe because St. Patrick's Day is, like, almost at the end. So now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we're at the tail.

[Moses Hacmon]

Letting yourself get up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do switch quick. I had green nails and I had to switch to my French manicure because tomorrow we do not love line. And we're shooting a. We're shooting a. We have a photo shoot for something special coming. And so I was like, okay, let me get those green off. I celebrated up until like last week when Malibu with the green hair. I was like, isn't Patrick's Day today? And I was like, no, we're just filming early. I'm a content creator. I have to film it early, you know, as I do, you know. Well, happy St. Patrick's Day. Good luck to everyone out there. Good luck to. To you, Zach. You're gonna need it. But good luck to everyone else. I hope everyone has lucky vibes, Even him. Honestly. Turn it around. Try coming to WeHo. Might be more your vibe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe not the Abby, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Zach. Yeah. No one deserves to be roofied.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, allegedly. We love everybody. Everything is for entertainment purposes only. We love you. We are just a podcast.

[Malibu]

Ooh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah. Ending.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hey. No. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

The gloves are off.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was like, whoa.

[Malibu]

Just literally, I'm taking the gloves off, cuz we're going to Patreon. Oh, that's where we take the gloves off.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Patreon.com Just Trish, we'll see you guys over there. Thanks for watching. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Enjoy yourself. Bye.