Jeffree Star's DRAMA With Tana Mongeau + Hunger Games Halloween Spooktacular

Summary

Episode Summary: Just Trish – Jeffree Star's DRAMA With Tana Mongeau + Hunger Games Halloween Spooktacular

Release Date: October 31, 2024

In episode 127 of Just Trish, host Trisha Paytas and co-host Cesar Flickerman dive into a whirlwind of pop culture drama, personal anecdotes, and interactive segments, all wrapped in a Hunger Games-themed Halloween extravaganza. Joined by Oscar Gracey, Emmy-award-winning entertainment journalist, and special guests Jimmy Wetzel and Isaiah Mays, the episode offers a blend of unfiltered commentary and engaging storytelling.

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Introduction: Embracing the Hunger Games Theme

The episode kicks off with Trisha fully embracing her role as Katniss Everdeen, setting the stage for a Halloween-themed discussion. Dressed in a braided wig and a Katniss-inspired outfit, Trisha remarks:

[04:10] Trisha Paytas: "I have a couple layers of Spanx, and I'm sucking it in."

Co-host Cesar praises her transformation:

[04:24] Cesar Flickerman: "I think you guys all looked amazing. It looks really, really good."

The set resembles the iconic Hunger Games arena, enhancing the immersive experience for listeners.

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Halloween Memories: From Hamburglar to Talent Shows

Transitioning from costumes to memories, Trisha shares her triumph in winning a Hamburglar costume during elementary school, using it as a metaphor for life's unexpected victories:

[07:00] Trisha Paytas: "I think that's a good metaphor for life. When you least expect it, you know you're winning."

Oscar recounts a humorous incident from high school, where his talent show participation led to an unexpected win by default:

[07:54] Oscar: "So, you know, I did win that. Yeah. That was my senior year of high school. You win two things."

These anecdotes set a nostalgic and relatable tone for the episode.

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Hot Topics: Jeffree Star and Tana Mongeau Drama

A major segment of the episode delves into the recent drama between Jeffree Star and Tana Mongeau, sparked by a live-streaming mishap during Brooke and Tana's Patreon event. Trisha outlines the situation:

[11:15] Trisha Paytas: "Our girls, Brooke and Tana did have a little collab with Jeffree Star that got the Internet ablaze."

The conflict arose when Jeffree Star opted to go live on TikTok simultaneously with Brooke and Tana's Patreon live Q&A, leading to confusion and frustration among subscribers. Cesar expresses his bewilderment:

[12:13] Cesar Flickerman: "The comments were saying, yes, and then."

Trisha adds insight into the production scheduling clash, highlighting how overlapping live streams can disrupt audience engagement:

[14:27] Trisha Paytas: "When you're booking the production day and you know Jeffree star is booked right before the livestream."

The hosts discuss the broader implications of such overlaps on content creators' relationships with their audiences and the challenges of managing multiple platforms.

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Brand Deals and Authenticity in Influencer Culture

The conversation shifts to the nature of brand deals, with Trisha and Cesar contrasting Jeffree Star's approach to sponsorships with that of Michaela Negera:

[17:35] Trisha Paytas: "She was promoting ELF so hard when she has, like, worked with them. He called her out for kind of like lying to sell."

Cesar reflects on the importance of authenticity in maintaining audience trust:

[19:35] Cesar Flickerman: "I've got some input on that. Yes."

Trisha emphasizes the value of aligning brand deals with personal values, noting her selective approach:

[21:00] Trisha Paytas: "I just feel weird, like, you know, holding like, a flashlight or something. ... So I just can't see myself doing it."

This segment underscores the delicate balance influencers must maintain between monetization and genuine content.

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Guest Spotlight: Jimmy Wetzel and Isaiah Mays

Jimmy Wetzel, the podcast's editor and an avid streamer, shares his journey from creating Sonic the Hedgehog stop-motion videos to managing the Just Trish podcast's editing and streaming operations. He highlights the evolution of his content and his commitment to fostering community:

[52:58] Jimmy Wetzel: "One of the things I'm most known for is guest-starring on a couple episodes for the channel Game Grumps."

Isaiah Mays, a photographer and gamer, discusses his background in tech and his passion for creativity. He reflects on growing up in a large family and his seamless transition into a career that blends art and technology:

[32:01] Isaiah Mays: "My dad worked for Hewlett Packard and IBM, and so that was just, it was normal to us."

Both guests provide a glimpse into the behind-the-scenes efforts that sustain the podcast, emphasizing teamwork and creative collaboration.

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Interactive Segment: Hunger Games Costume Contest

In a playful nod to the show's theme, the hosts engage in a Hunger Games-inspired costume competition. Participants showcase their creative outfits, embodying characters from the series. Cesar moderates the contest, encouraging listeners to vote for their favorite costumes:

[132:03] Oscar: "We have a costume competition. I was like, if I take a vote, I'll have to compete."

The contest fosters a sense of community and fun, allowing listeners to participate and engage with the show's thematic elements.

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Upcoming Events: Trishmas Live and Tour Announcements

As Halloween transitions into the holiday season, Trisha announces her upcoming Trishmas Live shows scheduled for December in San Diego, New York City, and Thousand Oaks. She emphasizes the rapid sell-out of previous events and encourages listeners to secure their tickets:

[26:00] Trisha Paytas: "If you wanna get into the Christmas spirit... But Trishmas is just around the corner."

The hosts express excitement for the tour, highlighting the expanded production crew and the enhanced live experience for fans.

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Closing Remarks: Celebrating Community and Anticipating the Season Ahead

The episode concludes with heartfelt acknowledgments of the dedicated Just Trish crew and audience. Trisha and Cesar reflect on the episode's success, express gratitude for their team's hard work, and tease future content:

[157:07] Cesar Flickerman: "Yeah, I think we did. ... Thanks for watching. ... Bye. Good job, everybody."

Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to the podcast on YouTube and join Trisha's Patreon for exclusive behind-the-scenes content and updates.

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Notable Quotes:

• Trisha Paytas [04:10]: "I have a couple layers of Spanx, and I'm sucking it in."

• Oscar [32:01]: "My dad worked for Hewlett Packard and IBM, and so that was just, it was normal to us."

• Jimmy Wetzel [52:58]: "One of the things I'm most known for is guest-starring on a couple episodes for the channel Game Grumps."

• Cesar Flickerman [134:13]: "We have a conversation with everyone."

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Where to Listen: Subscribe to Just Trish on YouTube and support the show via Patreon for exclusive content and bonus episodes.

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This episode of Just Trish masterfully blends entertainment news with personal stories and interactive fun, offering listeners a comprehensive and engaging experience. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to the podcast, this Halloween special provides a captivating glimpse into the vibrant world of Trisha Paytas and her team.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

Because they paid for it. But they're like, no, but we live for your lives. We love your lives. But they're just. But they're just upset because they paid for this.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, drama's good. Drama. I feel, for the most part, I feel like. Oh, really?

[Callie Metz]

Then you don't have a show.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Her name is Trish. She's got the mission. All the gossip. Filthy rich. Hello, hello and welcome to episode 127 of the Just Trish Hunger Games. I, of course, an Effie trinket. Joined by always my fabulous co host, Cesar Flickerman. Look at those teeth. Look at those teeth. Now, Caesar, who are you excited to see tonight?

[Oscar]

Well, we have so many great contestants and I don't know, I mean, I'm mainly interested in seeing myself on the monitors. But we also have some people here that are gonna fight for their lives.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Tributes, not contestants. They did not choose to be here.

[Oscar]

They did not. They're gonna fight for their lives. And we hope you're hungry.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Let's bring them out. Today we have our very own Victor Ro. Katniss Everdeen competing for the fifth, fourth time ever. Looking very Katniss in your braid. A role he's been pairing before his entire life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very true. Yes. And I'm finally living out the fantasy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You have the full braid today. Oscar's been being. Wait, before we get into it. Sorry. Oh, cat's nest. You know, we can only keep up the shtick for so long. It can only be this. Okay, before we get into you guys. Patreon.com justtrish this is the. The headshot of the month. We have our Elphaba for the Halloween commemorative. You can go to patreon.com justtrish we also do an extended podcast for an hour every Wednesday and a bonus video on Saturday. And we have the whole Just Trish crew here today. Wave. Yay. It's actually a production. Like, it started off as just Trish, but now it's literally. We have like seven people on the crew. It's pretty impressive. So shout out to patreon.com just trish. Thank you for the billboard. We love you. And also, exciting news. I'm adding two more shows to Trishman. I love having an audience. It's so fun. Yes, December 5th I'll be in San Diego. And December 10th I'm gonna be in New York City at the Beacon Theater. And if you wanna get tickets, the Thousand Oaks show sold out within a few hours. If you always wanna get tickets, they go on sale today, right now. When you're watching. And we're really going big with this one, so, you know, fingers crossed. Y'all wanna see me more? I feel if you're traveling to Thousand Oaks, I mean, you should maybe wanna travel to New York and San Diego, too. I'm very. I feel like since the show is already put together and everything, that might as well tour it around. So we have three cities. There's no more cities being added in December. This is only three shows. So tickets are on sale right now if you wanna get into the Christmas spirit, because it's Halloween today, but Trishmas is just around the corner, so. Yes. See you guys there at San Diego and New York City and Thousand Oaks. Oscar. Hello. Oscar's a guessing. It's so crazy to see you here.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy to be in the big pink chair.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm, like, trying to be as skinny as possible in. Yes. The wide angle. I gasped when I realized I was in here. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Welcome to the horror. That is the white angle.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is the Hunger Games. This is the Hunger Games right here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You look really good. You look great, actually. I love the braid. I love the whole look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Shout out to Callie. Callie came through and braided the hair last minute. I was very impressed.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's crazy. You look so good. Cause you've done Katniss before, which we should insert a clip. Jimmy. Jimmy's right here. Yes. Have you seen him do Katniss?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow. It looks so good. No, you look great. How do you feel as Katniss?

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel really good. I do. I mean, her outfit in, it is. It's a little rough just because it is just like a wetsuit, which is kind of like my biggest fear, but, you know, great. I have a couple layers of Spanx, and I'm sucking it in. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think you guys all looked amazing. I couldn't. I could never. But I, like, love it so much. It looks really, really good.

[Trisha Paytas]

It almost gives dolphin trainer vibes a little bit. But, like, before, it was, like, you know, problematic, but I did kind of feel like a little dolphin trainer a little bit.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I, like, really like it. I really like this whole thing. And you without glasses, you look so different. You are so fierce. We just did a photo shoot in my garage, and you gave so much face.

[Trisha Paytas]

It literally is a role I was born to play. I am like, the number one Hunger Games stand. Since I read the first book. Before Jennifer Lawrence was even cast, I saw myself as Katniss, I think. But, you know, Jennifer Lawrence is a good, lovely alternate it could have been me. I'm glad it was J Law, you know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes, she did. Good. Do you know all that we were talking about in Glam? Because there was a stand in Glam. His name is Louis. Shout Out Louis. He's a Hunger Games stanley. He knew, like, all the districts. Like, Cali's outfit is like bark. Do you know, like, all their things?

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't read it or seen it in a while, But I know 12 is coal.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Are you district 12?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. So, yeah, coal miner. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes. My dad died in the coal mines. In the coal mines.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's a lot of pressure today.

[Trisha Paytas]

He did.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. In real life. In the movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the coal mines. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Katniss. Dad. Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I kind of go in between character and.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

As you know, me too hard. I know. Even doing the opening in an act, I don't know if this is. If this is it. I also didn't know, like, you know, people get mad when people dress up as, like, you know, Marie Antoinette. I don't know. It's like insensitive to be the capital right now. Like, I didn't know this is just a costume. I didn't even know about it. I was like, oh, my God. Wait, is this. I don't know. I wanted something pink. And we've been talking about it for a long time, so it seems fitting. But it's good. I think it's universally loved. The Hunger Games. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially Catching Fire, which is our theme today. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And we're all in Catching Fire, which is actually pretty. Pretty slight, but we'll get all to that. I don't have to ask you. I was gonna ask everyone if they know what their character is, but obviously. Yeah, obviously, you know, Katniss. So I also asked everyone to prepare one hot topic and a Halloween memory today, which I thought would be really fun. And I came up with no Hot Topic because you have no cards. So I'm very excited to have everyone just come through and tell me their hot topics. And most of them are surprises. I actually don't know anyone's hot topics. So do you want to talk about your favorite Halloween memory or a hot topic first?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sure, I'll do a Halloween memory first. Yeah, I remember we had like parades in elementary school and the one time I actually won, I was the Hamburglar. And it was like a last minute costume. I remember being so insecure about it. I was like, hamburglar, no one's gonna get this. Like, no one's gonna care. It looks Just like a criminal, like an everyday kind of thief. But I won the Halloween parade as a Hamburglar.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Did you have hamburgers?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. That's the kind of. It really was just like a shake and go, party city moment. And I didn't. I put so much pressure. Cause I'm very competitive, even as a little boy. And I really wanted to win. And I did not believe in the Hamburglar costum. But you know what? I think that's a good metaphor for life. When you least expect it, you know you're winning.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Cause didn't you win your talent show, too? No. It's a clip of him dancing on his talent show. Oscar dance. He does. Singing, dancing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know what he's talking. Oh, yes. That was in high school. It was like a beauty pageant kind of thing. It was like Mr. Name of the School and the frontrunner did get disqualified because he had a party where a pew pew was there. So the teachers found out and disqualified. So I think I kind of won by default because he got disqualified. But I'll take it. A win is a win. So, you know, I did win that. Yeah. That was my senior year of high school. You win two things.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's more than I won. That's pretty impressive. So you're just a winner. You are a true Katniss. Ot. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She won the two Hunger Game. Oh. I guess the second one was kind of by default as well, so that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Kind of makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

If you haven't seen by default. That was literally you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that was very me. Yeah. I am very Katniss coded.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Very Katniss coded. All right, so this is. It's so funny. I'm so, like, not prepared with it. Like, guest Oscar. I'm so used to just, like, you there. I don't know.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Same. And I can't see anything because I don't have my glasses on, but I'm.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Kind of just vibing, you know, you look really cool. You do look really cool. That's all that matters.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, my whole topic is kind of teased, so I was nervous coming into it because it's like, if I get clocked in, like, you know, this, like, kind of braid moment. And like in my Hunger Games, it's kind of fun, though.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's almost like I was in character, you know? So if anyone gets upset, I was playing a role.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I couldn't even see. I didn't have my glasses on. It's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm just cosplaying, you know, it's not for real.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Wait Is it serious tea? Is it, like an end of the episode, usually kind of tea?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think it's just, like, scandalous. I don't think it's like, that serious.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, okay. Just scandalous. Okay. I don't even know what the thumbnail will be. Do you have any idea title and thumbnail for this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably this one. I'm like, it's kind of drama. It's kind of clicky. But okay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Not all of us. I thought we were all going to be in the thumbnail, but. Too much.

[Trisha Paytas]

That actually might be a lot. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Seven people even.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, in the earlier days, I remember I'd put a lot of people. I remember I put, like, Bridget Mendler was in NASA, I think. And everyone's like, oscar, there's a lot going on in this thumbnail.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't need too many.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, whatever it is.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, you think this one could be. This would be a contest. Whose Hot Topic makes the thumbnail O team?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, we can also do the thumbnail test. You know, like, it's very Mr. Beast coded. He does, like, 10 thumbnail versions. And that'll be a contest, like, who actually gets click through.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Ooh, okay. Who gets the click through one? We have another contest which we're gonna announce at the beginning of the show when Moses up here. But we'll announce it now for you. Gu. What? Now?

[Oscar]

No, when I come up.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, but I thought we each had each gonna. I thought they were each. Oh, after. Okay, I'm rhyme. Okay, well, I'll save it. It's a surprise if everyone's still here, actually. And there's a Mr. Beast twist involved, so. And it involves cash, so everyone stay tuned for that. Okay? Yes. It's gonna be very fun. Okay. Salacious. Hot Topic. There wasn't much happening, actually. I didn't think there was much. You.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let's get into that. Actually, first, you cannot. Like, every time you start an episode, there's not much going on. We have no Hot Topic today. You can't undersell it at the top. We gotta say, you guys, we have a riveting program for you today. So many good stories. A lot of scandalous tea is gonna be spilled. You know, you gotta hype it up more.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, everyone here is spilling the tea. There's literally so many hot tubs.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like Rosanna with a little, like, teapot. Like, you gotta have that kind of vibe.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Everyone's getting canceled. It's Halloween. It's spooky vibes. It's fun. Nothing serious. We're all in costume.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not personal.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, it's not personal. Just Trish. Just Hunger Games. Just. Who am I? What is this character? Effie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Effie Trinket.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, okay. I always think of Effie from dreamgirls, like Jennifer Hudson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very different.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think Effy is such a funny name. Okay. All right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, our girls, Brooke and Tana did have a little collab with Jeffree star that got the Internet ablaze. It kind of shook me, too. I was like, what is going on here?

[Cesar Flickerman]

I'm shook, too. I'm very shook about it. I wish I could buy it for a number of reasons, but I'm sure. Yeah, you were.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it was quite interesting. And I. Okay, so if you guys didn't know Brooke and Tana, I guess they're doing a lot of guests right now. So they're recording a lot of interviews for canceled, and they had Jeffree star on, and for some reason, they decided to do a patreon live after filming their episode with Jeffree star, which in and of itself is a production issue. Like if. Hey, you guys, we're gonna do a patreon live after we shoot Jeffrey's interview, and he's just, like, sitting around. It's like, I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't really know how it went down either. You think in your mind it's like this. Like, we just finished filming, and then like, they're like, oh, just hang around if you want, and we'll do patreon. Or do you think it was more like, oh, we're filming patreon. Come with us?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it was that. Yes. I do think he was supposed to be involved in it, but I guess there were a lot of comments on the Patreon. Like, Jeffree says that people were being mean to him in the comments on the patreon canceled livestream. And then jeffree started his own TikTok live where he was in the same room as they were filming a live Q and a.

[Cesar Flickerman]

This is so good. I feel like we're on, like, Sally, Jesse, Raphael, Amari.

[Callie Metz]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Jeffrey decided to go on TikTok live because he hadn't been on live all day, Mind you. He had not been on live all day.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I gotta go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. He has not talked to us yet. He hadn't talked to his people all day, you guys. So he had to go on TikTok live. Yeah. So then it was kind of a battle of the lies because jeffree is going live on TikTok. And then people who paid the patreon subscription for canceled to see Tana and Brooke live. Were getting upset because, like, okay, why are we paying a monthly fee for a live stream if we can go to Jeffrey's TikTok and do it live?

[Cesar Flickerman]

The comments were saying, yes, and then.

[Trisha Paytas]

People went to Jeffrey's TikTok. Like, patreon members flooded Jeffrey's TikTok and being like, we're upset with him leaving him mean comments on actual. His actual TikTok. Mind you, they're in the same apartment. They're in Brooke's living room.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But they're both on livestream, both on live streams.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And it just got kind of a little awkward because you can kind of hear tana and Brooke being like, well, can you please, like, turn your TikTok live stream off? Because they paid for. But they're like. They're like, no, but we live for your lives. We love your lives. But. But they're just. But they're just upset because they paid for this. So. And then Jeffree ended up going on. Staying on live, but he did go out to Brooke's balcony.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I would feel awkward to tell Jeffree star anything. I'd be like, it's fine. Just do whatever. You know what I mean? So I think that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. I think the. Again, not to be shady at all, but I think when you're booking the production day and you know Jeffree star is booked right before the livestream. Yeah, no, like, let's. Let's rework things a little bit.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. It's gonna be us on Friday. Jeffree's booked before our patreon on Friday, so it might run into that. Oscar shows up, and I'm like, jeffrey's life on TikTok. That's where I was concerned. All of a sudden, I was like, oh, okay. So we have jeffree. I'm kind of glad it happened before. Is it up today, the Jeffree episode?

[Trisha Paytas]

I actually don't know. Cause they booked a few. They booked a few interviews. Y. This is the first one. They've actually, like, promoted a lot, I think. Right, Right.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because it's, like, a big deal. And so it was like, oh, okay. Like. And I knew Tiana was here Sunday, so I knew. She said, jeffrey, because, oh, is he coming on Friday? I said, yeah. She's like, oh, he's coming on ours tomorrow. I was like, oh, that's cool. And then I saw this happen. I was like, oh, thank God. I have some more stuff to talk about for our interview, you know, What? I mean, there's a lot to cover. But I was like, this is, like, in addition to now, so that's, like, really great. Oh, we're gonna cover the same topics, which is fine. You know, we have different interview styles. But I just thought it was like, oh, man, that's gonna be the same topics. And then I was like, t, we got this one. We can have the aftermath of what went down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting. Yeah, definitely was interesting. For sure.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I just saw clips of it. I wish I could have seen the whole thing. That's kind of. So did he shut off the library? Like, I'm just going to go live.

[Trisha Paytas]

He stayed live. Yeah. He would just went outside, and then he came back in once they were kind of done filming their Patreon, like, live Q and A. I have to.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Think it would be planned. I would think, but I don't know. We could ask for a statement.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you might have to get a.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Statement from Jeffrey live in person. It's a tough one. That's a tough one. But I think. I think Jeffrey pro. They all probably live because at the end of the day, I feel like it's an awkward situation. But if something like, awkward happened here, like, thank God. I hope it doesn't. First of all, I really hope it doesn't. But I mean, it's kind of like they got a lot of publicity. Like, I heard everyone talking.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a big headline, you know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So I feel like they should go put out the episode now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Although when Tanners here say, well, wait till your episode was like, oh, it might be like a week before I put it out. So I don't know. I'm just like, just put out. I'm sure we asked very different questions. And honestly, we're all kind of like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, and your experience with Jeffrey is very different. You have a lot of other things to talk about as well.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She said they talked about the Vegas trip, and I'm was like, oh, okay, Tea. But I have some input on that. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, may the odds be ever in your favor on Friday. I'll say that. Yeah, we'll say that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I know the comments are scaring me. I was feeling really good. I talked to Jeffrey on the phone for, like, an hour, and I was feeling good because, like, Jeffrey, like, apologized to me, like, on the phone again. Like, he. What we said in Hot Topics was true is like, he's, like, one of the only people who's ever, like, actually apologized to me. And, like, I feel like we always talk about this. Like, I'm the one Apologizing, everyone. So Jeff. Jeffree not only apologized to me during the Vegas thing after it happened, but he also parties on the phone again, and he just, like, seemed like a very different Jeffrey now seeing all this, I was like, oh, my God. Drama. But. But I'm here for a little drama. Don't worry, everyone. I did see comments like, oh, my God, I'm worried about Trish because she's in her healing and peaceful era. I'm still gonna be in my healing, peaceful era. You know what I mean? I feel like it's all good. Everything's fine. And I do think energies are so different. I do think Brook and Tana's energy, I agree, love them, but I think very different energy. The just Trish.

[Trisha Paytas]

I agree with that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, yeah. So we'll see.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll see. And then he was in a little bit of drama with Michaela Negera as well.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which I don't know if I care about Michaela drama anymore, you guys. I really don't know. It caused a lot of controversy because she promoted a Patrick T. Eyeshadow duo. Again, it's like 2024. Like, do we care about eyeshadow duos anymore? Not me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No. No one.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she promoted. She was very excited. She's like, patrick, this makes me want to cry. I love it. And then she's like, the next day, she posted a TikTok about a dupe from Elf cosmetics who she collabs with a lot. She's like, you guys, I don't know why you don't pay $42 for Patrick Tas when you can get this at ELF.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And it's like, that was wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

The switch up was crazy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is that what Jeffrey called her out for?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it was more so calling her out for, like, promoting ELF so hard when she has, like, worked with them. He called her out for kind of like lying to sell, you know, to do her brand deals and sell a product and stuff. And that her rep reputation when it comes to, like, promoting a product is, you know, not the cleanest, I suppose, or not the most honest. But also it's like, I feel like you kind of just know that with her now, like, again, not to victim shame, but we've seen it. She's not going to change. After she did the mascara gate, she got called out. I think she thinks is in her head. I think she probably thinks it's, like, funny or whatever. She kind of just talks in, like, very hyperbolic. She's very extreme.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. This is the Best product ever. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I just think that's who she is and she's not really going to change. So, like, I don't know, if you want, like a real honest review, I think go to, like, a smaller beauty. Tick tocker, I think. Right.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He's calling out because I guess Jeffrey's known for being, like, really honest because he never takes brand deals or sponsorship. So I guess that's like, what he said. Yeah, I need to get to the bottom of this too. On Friday. I feel like there is questions to be had about us, but I think it's more questions now. The Jeffrey now it's like, what's the beef with Michaela? Where does it stem from? Where's the deep rootedness come from? Is it just because she's dishonest or is it something else else?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he did clock her for mascara gate and I guess, but invited her to Wyoming or that's where the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Invited her to Wyoming and then she never responded. So maybe it's like that rejection too. And he did clock her. Tamu tan is what he called it. And then Michaela kind of responded and you tick tock said, hold on. I know that my tamu tan isn't.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Gonna match you guys, but she's like, in on it. Like, the joke, I think doesn't care.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think she's kind of is unbothered by the commotion. It couldn't be me. I would be very bothered if everyone's like, you're a liar. You're a sellout. I'd be like, would you be bothered?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I would be. I'd be like, I don't know. But I was getting brand deals. I don't know. Again, audiences are so different because I feel like when we have a brand deal on here, people are so excited. Like, oh, my God. All of ours are pretty true. We performed a GLP1S. We had bad credit debt solutions. Like, it's very on brand. Very on brand. So we take them. But I think I feel like if we did do something that was like a sellout, people like, oh, yes, play. You know what I mean? Like, people are happy for you when they see you in fabletics or whatever you were promoting the other day.

[Trisha Paytas]

That hat is literally in the makeup room. So I literally wear it. Yeah, you love it. Yeah. Because I've gotten offers to do like, S X toy, like, brand deals because for some reason, this one company is going to literally every homosexual that has An Instagram account.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Does it start with an L?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even remember. Yeah. But I just keep seeing, like, RuPaul's Drag Race. People, like, posing with, like, they hold their sex toys like this.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I'm like, jamie, they probably reached out to you.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I don't know if I could do B roll. Is it the look? Alexis Mateo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Have they really shout to you? No, but that's a. Oh, Jimmy, my DMs are open.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I don't know if I will respond.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not necessarily my type of content.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Right. Really? Yeah. See, that was, like, my only brand deal could get for the longest time with Shout Out, Adam and Eve. And I still love them, I still work with them, but, like, that's the only one I can take. So I'm like, I'm gonna take what I can get. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't. I just can't see myself doing it. So I haven't really. I've gotten, like, maybe two or three offers, but they've all been, like, products that I just wouldn't like. I don't associate myself with. So I just ignore them. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

In their money and money deals.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, those ones are actually. Yeah. But I just feel weird, like, you know, holding like, a flashlight or something.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh. Oh, I see. It's one of those, like, what was the product that you didn't want? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I guess Mikayla doesn't do that either. I guess she's not promoting that, which is kind of why I would probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do a mascara or something stupid. Yeah. Or like a blush. I actually have, like, all Elf. Yeah. So I would take an Elf cosmetics. I use them a lot.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I bought that, like, Dolphin primer that Jennifer Coolidge used at the Super Bowl. Remember those? Like, I never use primer, but I was, like, putting on my face all sticky and I was like, I don't know if I'm doing this right. But I loved it because Jennifer Coolidge used it, so I still use it. I was like, why? Bought it, so I'm going to use it.

[Trisha Paytas]

So their super bowl money. Yeah. Went to good use and, yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Honestly worked millions of dollars. So do you think they'll do a campaign like Jeffree, like, Star Cosmetics with Tana and Brooke? It should be called Canceled. I'm surprised Jeffrey has had a canceled palette. Like, true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He should do like, a Jeffrey X. Canceled.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Or you did have that one shade in the Conspiracy. So you're in the family. You're in the family. Maybe that could be you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That would be actually kind of iconic. Everything. Wasn't the one with Shane, the follow up, Wasn't it canceled or. No, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he have a canceled shade in there? I don't know. Oh, in the shade, maybe.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So interested to know if he, like, still talks to Shane. I did ask him a little bit on the phone and there was like a little bit. But I'm like, I want to know more too.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have to get that to you, too. I did collab kind of recently. I thought maybe last year. I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Before his babies. I know that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Before the babies.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. So I'm not alive. A person. We were talking about this and I'm like, I can't go. I just don't, like. Look, I'm like. I don't like people knowing I'm at. I'm always home, but I don't want people to know where I'm at. You know what I mean? Like, I just. It's so weird to be live. I just don't like the comments even because, like, he said he was getting mean. Comments like, I don't want to see. I don't read comments on anyone else's page. Like, I don't know. It just seems risky.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I can. I would never be a TikTok live girl either. I mean, it's cool. He got a witch, which was exciting. Tana was like, oh, you got a witch.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What does that mean? Is that like the biggest one you can?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like, bigger than the galaxy. You know when it makes a big sound effect and it covers the whole screen? I think that's like, a good sign. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Tana was God when she looked over and saw Jeffrey got a witch, so. Yeah. So I'm guessing.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I bet he's like, Jeffrey's like, so honest. I want to know, like, how much he makes, like. I want to know all that because you know something? He's. He's on the top. Like, I feel like if you're on the top of the leaderboard, then you're, like, making money. You know what I mean? I feel like if you're. I mean, I don't know. Shout out to everyone I know everyone does TikTok live here? So shout out to everyone who does it. But I don't know. I never make money doing it.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And I also am just scared of it. Everything about it scares me.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think it looks kind of tiring to me. It's like constant, like, stimulation and, like, talking to People that I couldn't do that every day. So it does seem hard in some ways. Yeah, it does seem like for some. Yes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, especially when they're on for like eight hours a day. Like, Jeffree is on so much. I really do see him at all hours of the night, in the morning, and I'm just like, wow, like, never sleeping. That is actually crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially because he has to be making good money still from Killer Merch and Jeffree Star Cosmetics. So it's not like he, you know, needs it or is desperate for it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that is interesting.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I guess he can just never make. Some people just can never make enough money. You know what I mean? Like, I think about 10 million. I'm like, I'm good. I don't even make any more.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I would think too.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think maybe some people. People just can't stop making money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. I saw it all over the TikTok. All over. And I just like. I couldn't really grasp what was happening. I couldn't really get the full situation. I'm like, is this all like a joke or fun or.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got like texts and DMs that were like, oh, my God. As it was happening, like a breaking news situation, I was like, oh, let me go tune into what's going on.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh. That's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

The girls were in a stir over it, which I thought was funny.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh.

[Isaiah Mays]

Oh.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Does that mean. Does your face appear the canon? Look at the sky. Bye, guys. That's a wrap up, Katniss. Thank you. Wow. That's on it today we have. Okay. Thank you, Katniss, for being here. We love you and may the odds be ever in your favor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good damn.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Bye. Good damn. Bye. Is that Joey? Joey Graceffa was supposed to be here, but he had to be in New York. He was down to be Finnick. He's like, I'll come back as Finnick another time. I'm like, okay, well, we're on. This is the Finnick. This is the moment. But. All right. Thank you, Katniss. Up next, next we have. Okay. Woo. Next up we have designer to the tributes and one of the Capitol's favorites, Sinna. Woo. Hi, Isaiah.

[Isaiah Mays]

I can't believe I'm sitting across from you in a chair.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I know there's been times when people have not shown up or been late where I'm like, should we just have Isaiah come in?

[Isaiah Mays]

I totally would have done.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really? I feel like you are such a good guest. Cause you love to talk.

[Isaiah Mays]

I worry that I'm not a good guest, though. I love to talk, but I don't really have a lot of. I always avoid anything that's, like, dramatic. I'm just kind of like, hmm. And I just.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't know.

[Isaiah Mays]

I keep it to myself. I feel like that's, like, one of the relationships that I like to have with people is they can tell me anything and it will never go anywhere.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You are a rare breed, Isaiah. I don't think anyone else is like, do you keep up on social? This is Isaiah Mays, by the way. Everybody, this is Isaiah Mays. He is my photographer. Yay. He is the official Just Trish photographer. And people are always so impressed when you're here. They're always like, wait, you have a photographer come? Just take photos and then go. And I was like, yes. We are, like, high quality here. Isaiah is the photographer. All our guests, Halloween shoots, like, whatever we need. He's so great. I've known. I've known you since, I guess, 2006.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So 18 years. Crazy. We met via MySpace. So it was. You were on social media still alive. Yeah, MySpace was alive and well. You were popping. Can we get into, like, your background or not really sure. Okay. So Isaiah was married to one of my favorite makeup artist, so obsessed, Alexis Vogel, who was the creator of the Smokey Eye. She did Pamela Anderson, Carmelekta. She said, those infomercials, you remember, we wanted it so bad, those Alexis Vogel kits. And so I followed her on MySpace and I would see them post you, could you get your makeup done by Alexis? And then Isaiah would shoot you. And Isaiah shot Pamela Anderson. So I was just like, I want to work with them so bad. And at the time, obviously, I couldn't afford. I was 18, but I was just like, oh, I want to work with you so bad. And then I think it was a few years later we finally shot together at 21. But you are the most. I think you're the most iconic photographer. I always tell people, I'm like, he shot for Pam. You shot for so many people.

[Isaiah Mays]

But I just like being a good friend to people. And sometimes it means taking pictures and whatever, but it never felt like more than that. And then I would wake up in the morning and someone would be like, oh, you're in the LA Times. And I'm like, you read the newspaper? I didn't know you read the newspaper.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's really cool.

[Isaiah Mays]

But it's whoever you're working for. I never really felt like it was me. It was just kind of like this is a juggernaut, a person. You do this, you're everywhere. And so if I can get you something that you really, really like, it goes everywhere.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, you're so good, and he's so flexible. I think we've had times where we've waited six hours for a guest, and you'll go to Trader Joe's and just get snacks. You're like, I'm fine. I'll just chill. I was like, are you sure? At the end of the day, it's.

[Isaiah Mays]

What I'd rather be doing. Sitting around eating snacks.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

What could possibly go wrong?

[Cesar Flickerman]

We had so many times where we just sit on the stairs eating hummus and chips and just, like, waiting and it's a good time. Or that big popcorn you had for so long lasted, like, six months in our glam room. But it's always a good time. And I love Isaiah, too, because if you go to his photography page right now, it's literally. You shoot so many curvy models.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Which is what made me. Gave me the confidence, because I never did a photo shoot before. You. You were like, the first person, like, photographer to ever do, like, something like, glam. And I was like, oh, I'm fat. He shoots for Pamela Artist. And then now, seeing all your pictures, I was like, oh, no. You really excel in the voluptuous.

[Isaiah Mays]

I kind of have you to thank for that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really?

[Isaiah Mays]

Because, I mean, honestly, curves have been gorgeous to me my entire life. I mean, it's just. It's like, humans are beautiful. There's people who just make your jaw drop. It's involuntary. You're just like, oh, my gosh. I remember when Ashley Graham did that whole ad for cacique that got banned and completely launched that whole. It was during American Idol.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh.

[Isaiah Mays]

And they did this ad, Lane Bryant's lingerie line, and it immediately got banned because it was showing too much skin. It was too sexy. It was too wet. And then they went more than Victoria. What are you saying? Oh, my God. No, that's not what we meant. And it was immediately back.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Just because she had more skin than someone. Yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

They felt it was sexy or too hot or something.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, interesting.

[Isaiah Mays]

Which is kind of cool because it's involuntary. You're just like, oh, that's too much. It's kind of like too much wood. And it just. I guess what I was getting around to is you changed. I think how people saw what I shoot because I was shooting Pamela Anderson. I was shooting everyone who wanted to look like Pamela Anderson. Right. And then I shot you. And they're like, oh, you do this too?

[Cesar Flickerman]

And I'm like, what do you mean? Of course I do.

[Isaiah Mays]

But it took someone who everyone was looking at.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh. I didn't know that. I always just thought that's what you did. When I look at your page, I'm like, oh, you're always shooting really voluptuous women and stuff. I thought that's what you did.

[Isaiah Mays]

I think it took someone knowing that you can do a good job. It was like when I got pulled in the room to shoot Pamela Anderson. Wasn't my idea. It was Alexis idea.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow.

[Isaiah Mays]

And when people see that someone they admire trusts you, then they're like, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, we need to do this.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Interesting.

[Isaiah Mays]

When they saw that you trusted me to do your pictures, I think that totally shifted everything. And they're like, oh, Isaiah does this. And it's like, Isaiah does everything. But you only think I do the stuff you notice.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh. Which was you and.

[Isaiah Mays]

And Pam.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So it's like, yeah, that's like the biggest honor. I had no idea. That was cool. That was very cool because. Yeah, I didn't know either. And it was just you always made me feel like the sexiest. Like, we've shot together now for, like, literally, like 15 years. It's still my favorite. I'm always like, isaiah's the best. And you're quick and you're. You're very good. Even back in the day when I'd be a little, like, temperamental, you're always just chill, you know?

[Isaiah Mays]

I would take the whole day, though. I think that's why we shoot quick, is because you do this all the time and you're totally happy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm always like. Me and Pam have that in common. You said she's like a five minute person.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, I had to buy a second flash because the first one would overheat while we were shooting. She. Every shot perfectly. Yeah. One take she got. She's got it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She is. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. She's fierce. I love her so much. Oh, my gosh. Amazing. And you are very. Just chill. What is your sign?

[Isaiah Mays]

Virgo.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, that's right. Your birthday just happened.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, August 28th.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, happy, happy belated birthday. So do you know who you are today?

[Isaiah Mays]

I'm Cinna.

[Cesar Flickerman]

How you seen Hunger Games? You know it?

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. We talked about you on our Jurassic park episode because you're kind of like a cinephile.

[Isaiah Mays]

I love movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would talk about movies all day.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, don't get me started.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He quoted Every single line from Jurassic park knew every single thing. Which is another thing to know about Isaiah. I feel like you look very, like, cool and like, what? But you're kind of like a nerd.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So you're actually a big nerd.

[Isaiah Mays]

Way more of a nerd. If I just try to keep my face straight here and just, like, look cool, I'll be happy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

But I'm gonna. I'm gonna geek out so hard.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, I feel like that's what's so cool. Because, like, about you, you always will say stuff about, like, I don't know, comic book superior. Something that I'm like. I don't know what you're talking about, but you could, like, go on for, like, minute, like, hours about it. You're like, let me just keep talking about this.

[Isaiah Mays]

Shut up.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, I love it, though. I love that about you. And I love. What's the nerdiest thing about you?

[Isaiah Mays]

Nerdiest thing about me? I grew up playing video games with my brothers, and we had to build our own computers to do it. And that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What does that mean? How do you build, like, a computer?

[Isaiah Mays]

Well, they were really slow when I was a kid. Right. To play a computer game, you had to have a certain amount of memory, which means you had to unload other things that the computer was running. So we had to turn off the. We had to turn off little programs that it wanted to run to help the computer run. And then we'd finally be able to fly a jet plane. And it was so cool. And that was like. That was. That was homework for us.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow. Oh, my gosh. That's crazy. And how did you learn how to do it? Just.

[Isaiah Mays]

My dad worked for Hewlett Packard and IBM, and so that was just. It was normal to us. I had no idea that wasn't normal.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh. So you're actually, like, a super genius.

[Isaiah Mays]

I'm a nerd.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Nerd. You are smart. You're so smart and creative and all of that. You're one of eight kids.

[Isaiah Mays]

One of ten.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh. I didn't know. So there's ten kids. Then the adults made 12. So there's a family of 12. And you're the second oldest.

[Isaiah Mays]

Second oldest.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh.

[Isaiah Mays]

So it was really cool.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You liked it?

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, it was really cool. It was difficult in ways. I always wanted my own room. Never had it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

How would you have your own room?

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, exactly. It makes no sense. But it was never boring, and we didn't always get along. But at the end of the day. I think that taught me that you don't have to get along along with people right away. Play the long game, let them be themselves. Let it all come together in the end. And it's just eventually you kind of.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Do so with your siblings too. Is that what you're talking about?

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, exactly.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because you had said once. Because I was talking about kids and I was like, oh my gosh, like, two is a lot. But like, you're like the older ones end up starting taking care of the little ones.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah. Two is harder, I think, than five, three is impossible. And then I think it slowly starts to get easier.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So if you're gonna do a lot of together, you might as well just go four or five, six.

[Isaiah Mays]

Might as well do it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well.

[Isaiah Mays]

It's like, it's like temperature. When it's 110 degrees outside side, it's hot. And then they're like, oh, now it's 115. And you're like, what is the difference?

[Cesar Flickerman]

I can't feel it.

[Isaiah Mays]

It's just hot. Once you have five kids, six is just kids.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

You kind of. I think you literally lose count. You don't have the. It's like more. Yeah, fine.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Did they ever call you the wrong name?

[Isaiah Mays]

It's funny, you kind of end up calling children the name of the one who gets in the most trouble.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, so you just heard. Who was it?

[Isaiah Mays]

So my mom would call us son because most of us boys and so it would just. Yeah, it kind of just says yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Son is like, like as in son and daughter.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's like the name of like sun and moon or something really cool.

[Isaiah Mays]

No, they weren't hippies, but no, it's. You never screw up.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. That is wild. And you grew up in San Francisco. Yeah. And your parents. I didn't know that your dad did computers. Was your mom because like San Francisco, I feel like hippies to me. But no, that's not the vibe of your family.

[Isaiah Mays]

Silicon Valley.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Oh, that's different. That's very different. Yeah, Silicon Valley is very like. Yeah. Okay. And was she techie, your mom, or she stay at home?

[Isaiah Mays]

Mom wanted to be doctor. She ended up raising us and just being very hands on. And I'm super grateful for that. She's from a family of mostly boys too, so she was all about football and all that. She was a great boy mom.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But you're not all about football, right?

[Isaiah Mays]

I freaking love football.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wait, what? I did not know this about you. Oh, no, I did not. You've never talked about sports. Of all the things you've talked about over the years, I've never talked about sports. Do it.

[Isaiah Mays]

I don't.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wait, you do. Oh my God.

[Isaiah Mays]

I totally love sports.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's wild. So you're artistic and you love sports. I've never met this combination. Oh my God. So you like go watch a game.

[Isaiah Mays]

Like every Sunday, if I remember. Okay, look, football in the 90s was a completely different animal. And it was when I was really getting into it, so it was really dangerous. I'm so much gladder. Gladder? Is that a word? I'm so happy. It's safer now. It's safer, but it's also shifted so it's a different game.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Watching or like playing mean. I don't know anything about sports.

[Isaiah Mays]

We played every Sunday whenever we could. There's five of us boys. And then we tried to get some other guys together and we would just beat each other up.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It was so you were okay because I always wonder because your height. Isaiah's really tall. So I was wondering if you were just like, are you an athlete? And if it was annoying you. You're like, oh God, just cause I'm tall.

[Isaiah Mays]

No, no, no, I was good. I loved it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Were you good?

[Isaiah Mays]

I think so.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because sometimes like tall and big people too, sometimes they're like not just coordinated either. They're just like.

[Isaiah Mays]

No, you're really awkward when you're growing. Once you kind of get into it. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh my gosh. So what was the transition from being like your athletic growing up to like being creative photographer?

[Isaiah Mays]

It was all one thing. My parents were really encouraging of whatever we wanted to do and they encouraged us to be artistic and explore music and art and we were doing all of that stuff at the same time. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So you're building computers, playing games.

[Isaiah Mays]

We're building computers to play games, taking photos. Yeah. We're playing football out in the yard until we hurt ourselves and we're coming back inside when it was dark and we were playing Madden and other. Actually we played some Battle Royale games.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really?

[Isaiah Mays]

It wasn't really Battle Royale at the.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Time, but yeah, Madden was big. My brother had that. Isaiah's also a gamer. We have a lot of gamers here today. My sister Jimmy and Isaiah. Yay. Wait, you're a gamer? They're all gamers? What? Professional gamer right there. And aspiring professional gamer.

[Isaiah Mays]

I just take the pictures and I leave.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, Yeah, I had no idea. Yes. So you're also a gamer? I told Isaiah. Cause he says he goes home, play like video games. I'll be like, what are you doing tonight? And you're like, I'm just gonna play video games. Why don't you stream? Like, you'll make like so much money. You love to talk, you're good at gaming. So how often are you playing video games?

[Isaiah Mays]

Oh, man, way more than I should.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like every day.

[Isaiah Mays]

Way more than I should. Not every day, but if I could, I would totally do it every day. Like the last two days before this, I was supposed to be. I was going to be, but I was running all over the place trying to find outfit stuff because it was like last minute.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It was last minute.

[Isaiah Mays]

And so I spent like two days walking going like, I can't find anything.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I can't find anything.

[Isaiah Mays]

And yeah, anyways, I found it out.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You found it out? Yeah. This was very good. We were getting his, but your measurements came in like a week before. And I tried to literally ask every single person.

[Isaiah Mays]

I sent the measurements in late because I procrastinated.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I was like, I kept asking, got the measurements, got the measurements. So they would have come. But you actually put this together really great. This is actually really nice. You kind of already had the look. Do you get annoyed when people are like, you look like Lenny Kravitz?

[Isaiah Mays]

I would be a lot more annoyed if they said I looked not like Lenny Kravitz. They're some of the most beautiful people in the world.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Lenny is beautiful. I love it. I guess kids are beautiful.

[Isaiah Mays]

His ex wife. Yeah, that's great.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's kind of. Yeah, I'm like low key obsessed, I thought. Do you follow him on Instagram?

[Isaiah Mays]

I think so.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I follow him and he's always like working out, doing like.

[Isaiah Mays]

I'm gonna go check. Lenny, if you see this, I'm sorry, I'm probably following. I've like five didn't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, okay. Like you knew him.

[Isaiah Mays]

So I mean everybody sees this stuff. So it's gonna get back to him.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, but I wish. I hope. Yeah, I. He works out in like leather pants and does like pull ups. He does like reverse pull ups. Like in leather pants. He just looks so fire and he's like 60 or something.

[Isaiah Mays]

Like he has to be careful in pants.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Why?

[Isaiah Mays]

Well, that one time during that one concert.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Do you know? I don't know what happened.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, the pants did. I think he wears leather pants because he needs strong pants. They didn't just what happened?

[Cesar Flickerman]

They followed.

[Isaiah Mays]

They did this really cool move and they were like, ta da.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And he split.

[Oscar]

Pretty sure the pants split and he had no underwear.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Moses said they split. He had no underwear. I pull that clip up. Yeah, pull the clip up. Insert. Oh, my God. No, Moses.

[Isaiah Mays]

Like, I would immediately be working out after. If that happened to me, I'd be like, no, I need to know. These pants are gonna. I would work out in every pair.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I have never knew that.

[Isaiah Mays]

And only wear pants I trust.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He's one of my dream guys. And Moses, like, kind of knew him back in the day. Yeah, he, like, kind of knew him. And I was like, oh, my God, get him on the podcast. He's like, get him on the podcast. He has, like, mutual friends that know him really well. And I was like, can you just ask? But he's like, I'm not that person either. If I knew someone famous, I wouldn't ask. But I'm like, just ask. Cause I like.

[Isaiah Mays]

And I feel like he's genuinely cool. Like, I definitely. If I'm not talking, it's kind of that Khal Drogo thing where you're just kind of like, oh, he's probably really cool.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

And then I start talking and it's like, what a goofball.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, you're being cool. No, you're cool in a different way. I don't know. Lenny Krabs could be a nerd too. I have no idea. He could be.

[Isaiah Mays]

He could be. But he's pulled off the cool and he's so cool.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, he is so cool. But you are too. Even though you talk about nerdy things, you're still very cool. What's cool about you is because you're very humble and non judgmental of people. And I think that makes you, like, the coolest person.

[Isaiah Mays]

I'm not humble anymore. Because she said I'm humble.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, you are my favorite. You've always been my favorite. You've always. And the fact that you pulled this together, it looks so good. Are you a fan of the Hunger Games in general?

[Isaiah Mays]

I wasn't before I watched them. And I honestly had this, like, my parents are super ethical. Ethical. They're like, be a strong character, blah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Isaiah Mays]

And so if someone has more than you and you're mad at them because they have more than you, then you're wrong. Right. And if someone has less than you and you don't like them because they have less than you, that's not it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's just people.

[Isaiah Mays]

And I felt like in the beginning that my first impression was that it was kind of haves versus the have nots. But as I get older, I'm kind Of, like, this stuff kind of does happen a little bit in life, but it also. Yeah, it was a really, really good story about political. Not just like, espionage, but learning how to turn the opinion of the world to your side when you don't have the money, when you. When you don't have the visibility and still being able to pull off a win and show people where the corruption really is. And I was like, that's. That's pretty solid.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's a really good analysis. I watched the movies, and I have no idea what's happening. I literally am like, I'm so confused. I was like, all of it's confusing to me, but I never knew the themes until I literally researched it, like, a week ago because I was trying to figure out, like, the character and the theme so I could sound intelligent talking about it. And I was like, oh, my God. I didn't realize it was, like, this deep in this, like, you know. Yeah, it really is. To me. I had no idea. Seemed like a silly, funny game or whatever.

[Isaiah Mays]

But I just. I'm always like, you can never tell who someone is until they have all of the resources to do what they really want to do. And so it's really easy to go like, oh, who are the bad people? It's like the ones who are doing and controlling all of this stuff. And it's like, yeah, we just don't know who else is a bad guy because they don't have the resources.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

So we give. It's time to give all of the ones who don't have it the power. And it's kind of, like, so interesting. We won't hate them until they have it and do the same thing.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's so true.

[Isaiah Mays]

I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

When people get money, you can either tell if they're a good person or a bad person, because people who are will just, like, help others. And people are bad. You're like, oh, man, you're just bad all along. And I got the money. Yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

You really have to watch out for the character. I love for everyone to have a million dollars. I think that's really important. It'd be wonderful. Yeah. Because then you know who's who.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. I feel like it's possible he could do that, but didn't at the end. Didn't like, the bad guy turn out to be good President Snow? Wasn't he good at the end of it, or.

[Isaiah Mays]

No, I don't think so. I think he's pretty much just really the villain all the way through.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really?

[Isaiah Mays]

I think so.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No. The old lady became the villain, remember? Right.

[Isaiah Mays]

Like, I don't remember.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Like, I think she. Spoiler. I think she gets shot at the end by Katniss and not the President. Right? Am I right?

[Trisha Paytas]

She does get shot, but then the. All the other people, the citizens, go and attack President Snow to death because.

[Cesar Flickerman]

They hate him, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoever is just. It's just like, you cut off one head and then another one goes in. So she wanted the whole system to be.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

It was a little subversive. I think we all wanted President Snow to, like, have a really. It was like Game of Thrones. You wanted Cersei to have a really. And then she dies off camera and.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You'Re like, oh, my God. What?

[Isaiah Mays]

But it was surprising.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I never finished Game of Thrones. I didn't know she died. That's sad. I'm so scared. Spoiler.

[Isaiah Mays]

She's totally fine.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So what's next for you? Are you gonna become an influencer or are you gonna become a gamer? Cause I always think you should totally.

[Isaiah Mays]

I don't know if you guys are doing it. I would totally do it. That'd be a lot of fun. I've definitely been playing a battle royale game that's old and a little bit.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Clunky, but it's awesome. Yeah. What are you playing?

[Isaiah Mays]

PlayerUnknown Battlegrounds. My brother got me into it a couple years ago, the mobile version. And I. I've been playing the PC version, and I've made a bunch of friends.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Are you on Twitch or where are you on.

[Isaiah Mays]

I'm not even streaming. I'm just hanging out with my friends on Discord.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, what's that mean? No. Okay.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Okay. All right.

[Isaiah Mays]

So you have a four person squad.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Isaiah Mays]

And it's just like Hunger Games, where the circle starts at the outside and it slowly, like a storm, crushes in on you until you're all trapped in this small spot. Somebody has somebody. And when you land, you have to loot and find a whole bunch of gear to help you stay alive. And with people, which don't do in real life, but you know. Yeah. And you can either pick of the people who are in your clan. I have a clan of people that I play with. But you can also choose to play with randos, as we call them. Just random people.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And you play with randos.

[Isaiah Mays]

I love playing with randos.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You should, like, do one so you can play with other people. Like username. Put your username out there. Not now. But, like, whatever. That we can be on, like, Twitch or something. Then we can all play with you.

[Isaiah Mays]

I should do that. I'll totally do. Look, look, if I was, I would literally just be playing games with you guys.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, well, they do that. I mean, my sister's always playing. I mean, you play, like, five hours a day, right, Jimmy? Yeah, like, so much. Yeah. It's crazy. Wow. And now we can make money doing it. I know you're making money.

[Isaiah Mays]

I wasn't allowed to do that all day as a kid, but I sometimes snuck off and did it anyway. And I love it. It's absolutely connected now. It used to be just nerdy, like, off by yourself, you know, kind of a thing. And they were like, oh, you guys are just introverts. And this is why you. But it's the new baseball, almost. Not to take away from, like, actual the show, because the Dodgers are in the World Series right now, and they're totally cleaning house. It's amazing. Yeah. I grew up in the Bay Area, so I'm, like, a surrogate Dodgers fan. Like, I'm a Shohei Ohtani fan. But congratulations, you guys got this.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think our audience probably has no idea what you're talking about. They're like, the Dodgers are in the World Series.

[Isaiah Mays]

You guys know this is happening.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Just kidding. Everyone knows what that means.

[Isaiah Mays]

I can't remember what I was talking about. Oh, okay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Gaming. Oh, it's a social. It's like the new baseball.

[Isaiah Mays]

It's the new baseball. Instead of being out there until the streetlights come on, I'm telling you how old I am now. Then we're inside and we're playing Call of Duty, and we're being really rude to each other, and, you know, it's hilarious, and it's fun.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's super social. You know, my mom always says she hears my sister, like, in the next room, always, like, screaming and yelling. And I was, like, playing video games, like, yeah, she does. So it is pretty cool. I mean, I. I think that's cool that you can socialize and never have to leave your house, basically.

[Isaiah Mays]

Well, honestly, some of us have gotten together. I haven't done it yet, but people will actually travel and meet their gamer friends.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really?

[Isaiah Mays]

And actually hang out and spend time together, and it's like. It's crazy. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's actually very cool.

[Isaiah Mays]

You saved each other's lives multiple times.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wait. Oh, in battle? That's, like, what? That's what it counts. Did you have a Hot Topic?

[Isaiah Mays]

I'm not really. I mean, I was trying to dream one up, and I just had to be honest about myself, and I Try to avoid anything that will like.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But what about just the current event that you're excited about, the World Series? Oh, you're excited about it right now?

[Isaiah Mays]

The coolest person in the world who obviously. Okay, I dated someone who's from Tokyo and the most incredible person, and we weren't the right people for each other, but it was awesome.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It was great.

[Isaiah Mays]

We had a good time. We were always very good to each other. And they were a huge fan of this six foot four, absolute phenomenal guy named Shohei Ohtani, who's a baseball player, and he has broken every record there is to break, and he's still looking for. And he's playing with the Dodgers right now. Yeah, he just came from the Anaheim angels. He's like 20. What, 27, 26.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, he's young. Oh, my God. So you're a Dodgers fan.

[Isaiah Mays]

I'm not. Don't come for me because I'm in la and I know I'm in la, but I grew up in the Bay Area and I'm a Giants fan. I'm a San Francisco Giants fan. Even Willie Mays played for the Giants.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Didn't Oakland have a team?

[Isaiah Mays]

Oakland is, but they're not anymore. Not Anaheim. I think Oakland's teams are moving over to Vegas, but I don't. Are the Oakland A's moving to Vegas?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Everyone's going out of Oakland, I think. No, we don't.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah, Raiders are gone.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh. Okay. I didn't know. I did not know. I found out something new about you because I feel like I knew so much about you, and I had no idea that you were, like, into sports and movies. You love movies. What's the latest? Did you like Joker?

[Isaiah Mays]

I have not seen it yet because I thought I was going to hate it. And I'm waiting and I should just watch it. I think I should go watch it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But this is a little bit of a hot topic. My hot topic. Quentin Tarantino has praised Lady Gaga's performance. Did you see that?

[Isaiah Mays]

Which has made me want to go see it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Right? Me too. He's like, she nailed it. She, like, this is a character she could just throw away. And she did, and it was great. And I was like, oh, my God. I kind of love. Because everyone was, like, crapping on it. And I was like. And I love Quentin, you know, more than anything. So I was just like, I'm gonna go see it.

[Isaiah Mays]

His movies are some of my favorite things. Like. Like Pulp Fiction is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's like, top Five. Easy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Mine, too. We were just talking about this. Like, if you would ask me, I would have always said Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs.

[Isaiah Mays]

But now that you're a mom.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Now I think I'm, like, so scared of violence, and I'm just like, oh, I don't know. I don't like any of it now. But I would be interested.

[Isaiah Mays]

Did you guys see the Wild Robot?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

What?

[Cesar Flickerman]

What's the Wild Robot?

[Isaiah Mays]

Wild Robot.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh, the movie.

[Isaiah Mays]

Okay, so take the Iron Giant, which is kind of a very boy movie, but like, one of the greatest of all time. And the Wild Robot is kind of like. I think it's a much more motherly than just kind of like Ragtag Buddy comic.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. I can see it. Is it out now?

[Isaiah Mays]

It's out and it's also streaming.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. After watching.

[Isaiah Mays]

They didn't pay me for this, but Luke Pizza Nyong'o nailed this role.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yeah, you did. Tell me about this. Yes. Love her.

[Isaiah Mays]

It's incredible. And my friend I was sitting next to, he got something in his eyes. I mean, like, someone was chopping onions. Did you? No. But I was totally just on board the entire time.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God.

[Isaiah Mays]

I would never say about a movie that I didn't love.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I was gonna say that's a glowing review for Isaiah. Isaiah Mays, everybody. Thank you so much.

[Isaiah Mays]

Thanks for having me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And honestly, yay. If you come and there's no guests next time, I will totally.

[Isaiah Mays]

I'll sit and I'll totally just take up time. Yeah, it's great.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I'll take up time. You added the show. Thank you so much. Do you like bread? Well, our next contestant does. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome PETA. Does PETA have a last name?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Malark.

[Isaiah Mays]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. PETA Malark, welcome. Hi. Now, why did you choose Peeta?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I've always had a crush on Josh Hutcherson. Him in Five Nights at Freddy's when he's, like, all depressed. It's so good. It's so good. He's so hot.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He really is. Honestly, I never looked at him that way because I, like, seen him. Whatever. I was like, whatever. And then when we saw Five Nights at Freddy, I was like, he low key eats. Yeah, I love him, too. And you went full out. You dedicated yourself.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yes, I dyed my hair blonde, which I never dyed my hair before, so I was kind of nervous it would all fall out when I went. But, no, it went really well.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You did it yourself?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

No, no, I went to Sal. Yeah, I went to a salon and I asked the guy Because I cut my own hair. I've been cutting my own hair for like seven years. Which came in very good handy during COVID I always had a fresh cut.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And I asked him, I was just like, you can be honest with me. Like, I cut my own hair. Like, can you tell? And he was like, no, it actually looks pretty good. So that was the highlight of my day. Was that compliment not even how, like, it looks.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Which I like. Your hair looks great. You guys, this is our editor at Jimmy. By the way, Jimmy is. I mean, you really just amped the show. Every single person comments, my family, everybody's like, Jimmy is like, amazing. Like, the best editor. The comments are half about editing. Like, the edits, like, what you throw in. I rewatch because I've never rewatched episodes, but I'll like, go. Because I'm like, wait. And even most of me put in and like, they're giving us timestamps and so we're like, looking and we're like, oh, my God, it's so good. It's amazing. It's cute.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Thank you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What you put in. I actually never watched the episodes before they go up. So you could literally put anything and I'd be like, oh, whatever, you know. But luckily people love it. No, but, yeah, you came on how many months now? Like six months.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I think February. I think you guys were in like the 50s or 60s episode wise. And now like, you're in 27. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So wait, so how many episodes have you done? And, like, have you done all of them since?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, I think when I started, you guys had a bunch of interviews banked. So I was only doing one a week. But then around when you guys switched to two Hot Topics a week, that's when I was doing two weeks.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. No, you're the best. And it's amazing in every single way. I didn't know until people started Patreon that you had like, that you were like, you have fans. So many people love you a little bit. I did.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Not to brag, but they're called the Wet Seas because my name is Jimmy Wetzel and my friend Alex came up with the name and I originally was like, kind of like a joke because I just. I don't know. I feel weird coming up with like a audience name myself.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I just was like, I don't know.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You know, they just watch, but it kind of stuck.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love Wetsy's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I Live.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And they are a dedicated bunch. I have been doing Internet stuff for a really long time. And yeah, I Have people that have been watching me since 2008. Like, when I was in middle school, I started doing videos just for fun. I talked about it a little bit on Patreon, so. Patreon.com Jess, Trish.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Jimmy put it in the edit. Yeah, we always start telling Jimmy put something in the edit. I was like, poor Demi. He's like, I know how to edit. Thank you.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I appreciate it. Cause I'm like, well, I don't know if this should go up. Yeah. But yeah, I started making videos about Webkinz back in 2007, which I did see a comment on Patreon. Like, why do I recognize his name? I think I was subscribed to him back then. One of my 300 subscribers. Thank you very much.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow, that's good. In 2008.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, that's really good.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And then I made Sonic the Hedgehog stop motion videos. Love Sonic so much.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What does that mean? Like, taking photos.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And so I had a bunch of Sonic like, action figures and I would just move them a little bit. Take the picture. Move a little bit. Take the picture. Kind of like a Nightmare Before Christmas. That's Sambo shame.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And yeah, I wrote the scripts, I edited them. And then I started doing my like, current endeavor when I was a freshman in high school. And I've been doing that ever since.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Gaming? Yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

High school. Yeah. Wow.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, I started. I did a lot of Pokemon videos and like game reviews and stuff like that. That was sort of my.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

My sort of thing. As if I had any qualifications as a high schooler to be like, giving my opinion. But people liked it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think that's the perfect. Because, like, kids are experts at games.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You know what I mean? And just kind of sharing my thoughts on things in a way that I guess people really responded to is pretty cool.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What do you think was your most popular or biggest response to a video?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Most of them all kind of have equal views. I would say the first thing that really took off is when I did a couple Pokemon trivia videos and I was just like, oh, talking about little details, little Easter eggs and stuff like that. Little hidden details. And yeah, that did really well. Got like 70,000 views in a day, which was pretty gaggy. I went from like 1,000 subscribers to like seven in a day.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow. Yeah, that's amazing.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, it was really cool. And then. But I think I would say one of the things I'm most known for. I guest starred on a couple episodes for the channel game Grumps.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wait, really? Yeah. Oh, my God. Wait, what did you do?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I did a couple different playthroughs. There's this game called pepsiman which in Japan Pepsi has this mascot back in the 90s named Pepsiman. And he's just this like faceless metallic superhero that he just like sticks his hand out and like Pepsi's up here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh my God.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I don't know why they've never brought that to America because like I don't drink Pepsi. But you would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I would.

[Cesar Flickerman]

When Britney started promoting Pepsi, I was like, I'm gonna drink Pepsi too. Because I feel like when you have the right person promoting it. So what were you doing? You were just like critiquing him or what?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

No, we just played through the game and talked over the. He's the main character. Like you just. You just play through the game.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Are you just throwing Pepsi's out to people or what kind of.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I think so. I don't really remember it too much, but yeah. And did a couple other series and those got a couple million views.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

So you're like.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It was like clapping with.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, I was the guest on. On their channel.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I see.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh my gosh. I didn't know. So like, does it interfere with your. Does the editing interfere with what you're trying to do? Because you edit a lot now.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I used to. So my main thing nowadays is streaming. I stream on Twitch.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is there like a user? I don't know how people call it.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, it's just Jimmy Wetzel. I'll put it. I'll put it on screen. Yeah. Little graphic, but yeah, I've been doing that since 2016 and I love it. It's probably my favorite thing that I've done online just. Cause I prefer talking in a very unscripted, like on the spot way.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And you never run out of things to talk about.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You know it helps when you're playing a game cause you have something to talk about. The chat is really nice. Cause you and you're having a conversation with people. So I really like that aspect of it. I've made a lot of friends through it that just like people just watch my stuff enough and I got to know them really well and then I live in the same building as one of them and that's so wild.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Moved in to her building because we've been friends online for years and I moved out to la and she was like, this is a good building. And I was like, okay, I'll just move here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh my God. Do you guys like game together? Like a Jeffrey Tana Situation where you're in the same room and gaming at the same time.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Not in the same room, but we'll be on call on Discord. Yeah, we'll do that sometimes. Although she did come down to my apartment this weekend and we did play a game, her and my boyfriend.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Did Martin sit there together and game.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, it's just fun. But most of the time I'm by myself. I like doing it by myself and for the first like hour I'm usually just talking anyway and about myself and my week and my day.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's so cool. I don't think I could do. I don't think I could talk that long. Like, I really don't. Like, I love doing this but like having conversation like by myself. I don't know how people do it. Like, yeah, I guess you're chat.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

But yeah, I don't know. I kind of just got used to it. The more I do it, like eight years is a long time to just kind of get in the swing of things. I kind of just turn it on and I just kind of do whatever. And I don't really mind if there's like a minute of like downtime where I'm just kind of like playing the game and not talking. I'm focusing because that's just kind of what twitch is. But yeah, for the most part it's mostly conversational. Like I think my favorite moments are, are from when I'm just talking and doing dumb stuff.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I mean that's the best I feel. And do they know that you were the editor? Did they ever know the connection?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

So when I first got hired, it was originally just gonna be I fill in for Oscar for a few episodes. And I remember keeping it a secret first.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, I kept it a secret until the episode went up. And in the first episode you didn't know who I was at that point. So Oscar referenced me and you were like, oh, shout out Jimmy. And I saved the little clip and I showed it on my stream. I was just like gag, gag on it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, shout out wetsies. Shout out the wetsies.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You are the reason I am here today. Truly.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's crazy. I really just didn't know that. Lore behind you. I was really excited. I hate change. I really do. I remember when we were transitioning to another editor, I was just like, no, but Oscar is so busy. I always say this on our episode. He has a full time job. Plus he was. That's during awards season. So he was doing Oscars and all this stuff. So I was like, ah, I Was like, I really don't want to, like, transition out. And then when he, like, he found you and it was so great because he knew your boyfriend. Is that what it was?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, he knew my boyfriend just through, like, I guess, Instagram and stuff. Like maybe watching his. His streams. Because he streams as well.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, I see.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

He originally asked my boyfriend, like, hey, would you want to do this? He was like, not really. But everything is very. It's very time consuming. And I had never. I mean, I edited all my own videos for a really long time and I really didn't like it, I think because it was. I was constantly hearing myself say the same line over and over and just, I don't know. You get tired of. Very critical of yourself.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's what Oscar said too. He said he hated editing himself. Yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah. But when I'm editing for somebody else, I'm kind of like, especially like, this is just a funny show. It's just so, like. It's just so. I could not imagine if this was like a true crime podcast.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, God.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You need a higher Alexa producer than I already paid.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, right, right, right.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

We may pivot.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And his brother's update. Releasing them Thanksgiving.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Release them.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think they're coming out on Thanksgiving, aren't they? Is that what they said? Yeah. I don't know.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I don't know enough about it, but, like, good for them. Yeah, it seems like it is important.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It is important, I think. I don't know. But yeah, but do we have a hot topic for you guys? I do have a hot topic.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

So this was one that Oscar texted me after you guys finished on Monday. He was like, I forgot to talk about this. So I have it here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is it an animal?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

It's not an animal. It is not an animal. So there's a singer, her name is Loomis, and I'm not too familiar with her. She is very talented. She has a very good singing voice. However, she sang a song that seems to plague many with troubles. The national anthem.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, this was a good one. Yes.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

So she is performing at some presidential debate that I don't recognize any of.

[Cesar Flickerman]

The presidential debate?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, I believe it's, like, for third party candidates.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, I thought it was like Pamela and John. That's crazy.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah. But still she, you know, she sang her heart out. And I'll just play the clip for you. I'll play it for you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Fun fact. Star Spangled Banner is not copyright. So you can like. Yeah, when did America's Got Talent, they wanted me to, like, speed read that because like, it's free of copyright, so if. Play it. Okay. Yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

It's an old drinking song.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Starts playing a banner.

[Isaiah Mays]

The music is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Isaiah Mays]

The words of Francis Scott key. But it's an old English drinking song.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He just changed the words. Okay. More, you know.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

All right, so here we go.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I got too nervous. Okay, that's so good.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

But, like, she hits the notes. Like, she clearly is very talented, and I do feel for her. Again, I did not know who she was, so I don't know her music.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But is she, like, a pop star on her own?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Like, on her own, maybe. I probably should have done research, but I don't mean to be rude, but I kind of didn't know I was gonna talk about it till last night. So.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That. No, she's played actually so hard. I think anyone who sings the national anthem, like, you're just taking on such a big toll, and people are gonna just, like, judge and criticize you.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And people don't love that. She's like, it up in the middle, and she's like, can I go back? And they're like, it's.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You hear?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You hear. It's live.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like, okay, keep going. She went. Kept going, though. Yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Good for her.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She could have just, like, ran off to me.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Diva moment.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think so too.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I. I worship. Like, this is so iconic to me. Like, it's so. It Spears to me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes. No, I'm waiting for the moment. I would love to sing the Star Spangled Banner somewhere. I just think I've sung it enough.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Times on this show. I think, like, literally three.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love a Star Spangled Banner moment, for sure. Do you sing?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

No. In the shower, but I'm not gonna. What do you listen to the girlies?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Who's the girlies to you?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

So, I mean, this year has been all about Brad, Summer, Charlie xdx. I love her very much. I'm not, like, the most well versed in her catalog, but enough that I could see the rumblings of an iconic album just from the first single.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I listen to it. I only know the apple one. You know, everyone's doing. Oh, what did you think of that guy? The apple? What's your take on him? Oh, that's. Ooh.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

That's what he does in the video.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was good.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I feel bad for him. Yeah, a little bit. I feel like it's gone. Like, finding him on Grindr. Likely place for him to be at a Charlie XCX concert. Like, he brought his last water's wet. Absolutely.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I saw a video of him Getting shoved at a bar.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Did you see that? Yes. So it was a trivia night and he was there. A trivia night. And he was playing against the Britney Broski revenge. Yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Britney Broski's revenge.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes. And they went and shot. He was. But don't you think it was planned because he was dancing obnoxiously?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

He laughed, but I would be very like. I feel like he was playing it off in the moment.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But did you think he knew he was gonna get shoved?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I don't know. I have to watch it a few more times. Frame by frame. Analyze body language experts. Please chime in with your thoughts.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Because I feel like he didn't really mean to purposely shove especially Britney. I don't think he was like, I. Before I saw the clip, I thought it was like targeting Britney. And then when I saw it, I was like, oh, I. I was like, it's not like. He's just. He just was eager.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

If I was Britney Broski, I would not want anything less to happen to me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Oh, I would be talking about it forever.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Same. I was actually kind of jealous because I'm like, damn, Britney Broski's in the news again. So jealous. Another meme. Add it to the list. Meme queen. She's gonna take my title pretty soon. Of all her memes, I'm like, damn, that's so good. And she hasn't talked about it, right? She hasn't said anything?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I don't think so. I check in on the Broski report. I would consider myself a fan of hers for sure.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh. I think I'm a fan. I think I'm coming around to fan.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah. I think she should come on this podcast. But I won't petition, you know, but we won't change.org do not delete Blonstone doll for MJ. Brittany Broski. Come on, just Trish.

[Moses Hacmon]

Come on, just Trish.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes, Absolutely. You know. Yeah. Just because it's a no once doesn't mean it's a no forever, I think so. Welcome on anytime. Who was your dream guests on here? You think since you edit our currently.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I was thinking about this last night with my boyfriend. I would love Leah REM on this show.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

We watch. We've been. It's so. I feel random, I guess, but I feel like I don't know what her agency is. I'm tangled at the cord.

[Callie Metz]

Oops.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I don't know what her agency is, but I don't know. Ca I get on that? I'll say it for you. Yeah, do it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She always text me shout out. Lydia, get chick. Thank you for the shout out. She actually watches all the way through. She's like, thank you for the shout out. I love them. They are pretty good. They're. They're pretty amazing.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

But yeah, my boyfriend and I, we love to watch just like TV that we can just turn our brains off and like play video games while we watch it. Cause I have ADHD and I don't know how I get anything done for the podcast with it, but I do. I persevere.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You do a great job.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

But yeah, what do you watch?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like King of Queens?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, we do watch King of Queens. I love the nanny as well.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is she on the nanny?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

No. Oh, I just love it. Love Fran.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You are very friend coded in terms of the looks.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, wow, that's a compliment.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You just turn it out like every video.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, you have to put in your edit. I don't think I ever put it anywhere. I'm gonna put it on TikTok the edit of all the looks. Jimmy put together every single look I've.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Ever done, every single episode and took a screenshot of every single look. And I did like a montage of all one. I think it was like 120 at the time.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And it just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And just remember it's not personal. It's just Trish, period. Xoxo. It's wild to see it all. You did like a stop motion of me. It was very cool. It was wild. When you edited, I was like, oh, my God, that looks so cool. Like, I don't know anything about editing. So any stuff like that. That to me is like so impressive. How long did it take you?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I think just an entire day pretty.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Much for that little clip. Oh, my gosh. Well, you can invoice me more than I told you to.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

No, it's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's okay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. I didn't know it was a whole.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You let me name my price on that one, so I did.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. Okay, good. Cause I never know how long anything takes. Like, I'm always just like, I don't know how long this will take. Like, to me, I'm like, it could be a minute or a week, I don't know.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

No, it's okay. I. The $8 an hour. I did get a RA two months into working for Trish, which was crazy. So I am at 9 now.

[Cesar Flickerman]

The $9 is the cap. No, I did. I didn't want to lose you. I was Literally, just like, oh, my God, here's more money. Like, I just was like, I'll take it.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

My rent is going up in two months.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is it really?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Probably.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's crazy. We can talk about it. He lives in the same building we used to. And that went up. And that's why we moved. We moved to Encino because we're just like that. It's too expensive.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I loved it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I wanted to stay there. I was like, in my own apartment. I was like, okay, I can't afford it there. So we moved out.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I told my boy boyfriend, I don't want to move again because I've moved every year for the last four years. I moved from New York, where I grew up, to Florida, to Jacksonville, Florida. Stay away, Stay away. Do not go there. No offense to the Floridians there, but I can only speak for Jacksonville, not it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, not the moment.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Not it. And yeah, we moved to two different apartments there. Our son was roach infested. Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Roaches.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, actually, though, they crawl across the screen. Literally.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Literally. I was streaming and I was playing Fortnite, so, like, I was in the zone. I was locked in, so I couldn't do anything about it. But a little roach crawled across my lens and I'm like. And my chat is like, going a million miles a minute. Just like freaking out, going, like, what's wrong?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like, oh, my God, what is it?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And it wasn't our fault. Like, before we moved in, we saw the first day we're unpacking, we're like, oh, roach. Like, oh, that's crazy. Like, you know, empty apartment. They probably will go hide, right? Nope. It was like infestation in the whole building. Like, we. Again, seriously, trigger warning. We'd unplug lights and they'd crawl to the outlet. It was horrible.

[Cesar Flickerman]

How are you living there? How did you sleep at night? Like, knowing it could fall.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Like, they would fall on us in our sleep. Yeah. Our dog would be like, sitting perched, staring at the wall in the dark. And we're like, no, please be a ghost.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Cockroach. Yeah. Oh, man. And you can't get rid of those, right? So you just.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

We just could. Yeah. We wrote out that 60 month lease like it was our job.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. That is why they should have paid you. They should have paid you wise.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

We ended up, like, not even getting most of our security deposit back because they were like, the walls were not painted before you left. I was like, the cockroaches were getting paid. That's the biggest problem. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, My gosh. Well, now you're at a very bougie place, so congrats.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, I really like it. Yeah, I. If we have to move for cost, I will, but I don't want to move our couch again. It was literally like the Friends episode Pivot. It was that and I.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Don't you see a Friends episode? Is that what you said? I never watched Friends, so I don't know. I've only.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I only referenced it because everyone was like, oh, it's like that Friends episode. And I was just like, yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Do you not know anything?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I had never seen it. I've seen like maybe five episodes of Friends. Okay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because I was like, I definitely don't know the reference. So. All right, so Leah Romani, dream guest. Love it. Okay, great.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, I would really love. I think you could pull Lady Gaga.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, I think so. Yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I really do. I really do. I feel like she. She's in on the pop culture. She is like my diva. Like, I love Charlie. I loved Slater when you had Slater. I like begged Oscar if I could edit that episode.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, really? Oh, my God. Yes. Slater was a sly.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I treated it like I was her PR team. I put as many clips of music videos. I was just like, look at it. Look at the material.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She's one of my all time favorite guys. I really like her.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

She's so good. I loved like hearing you guys talk about just like old Hollywood stuff. It was cool. I want to learn more about that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, she was amazing. I loved her so much. That's so interesting. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I guess when it comes to like girls, I'm so stuck in like the Britney Spears, you know, So I don't know, like the it girls now. That's why I'm always asking people, like, what is a cool guest to have? So Lady Gaga and Charlie xcx if you want to. Or Leah Remini. I guess I Remini.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Leah Remini first and foremost. I love her accent. It reminds me of like all of my friends parents. It's so funny.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, cause you're from New Jersey.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I'm from the Bronx. I lived in New York for.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh my God. Okay, jlo. Did you know what she was talking about? The bodega and the orange drink.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

The only orange drink I know is Lucasade. Cause I grew up in a pretty Irish neighborhood, so all the corner stores would have all Irish candies and Irish drinks.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So. Are you Irish?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Actually, did you know we always talk about Ireland? You never told me.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, my.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's so Exciting. We love Irish people.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Was not born there.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, but you're Irish.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah, mostly Irish. My grandparents are from County Kerry and Kildare.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. Shout out.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Never been, but yeah, they're from there.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And they, like, what do they do? They came over to the Yucks. They.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

They. They moved to the Bronx when they were in, like, their 20s, and I think they met in America, actually.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, okay.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And then, yeah, my grandpa was a bus driver in New York City, and he used to pick up drag queens at, like, in the Village and stuff like that. And.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And take them where?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Home. Like a bus to the gang. Yeah, he was a bus. Yeah. Did I say he was a bus.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Driver or did I just say he.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Just picked him up?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like. But only drag queens he would pick up or what?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

No, but, like, those were his favorite.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, got it, got it, got it.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And then. Yeah, my grandmother, she was. I don't know, a housekeeper, I guess she worked at hotels a lot and so.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah. And then. Yeah, my mom grew up in the Bronx. My dad grew up in the Bronx, and. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Do they have Irish accents?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. No, the grandparents did.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

The grandparents did.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, it didn't trickle down to you? No, we love.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

That's.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Somebody never mentioned it because we talk about Ireland all the time, as you would know from editing. Yes.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yes, I do.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I'm so shocked.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. That makes me think even cooler.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

My favorite thing is your love of New York era that you're in.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Because I remember when you first started, edited the podcast, the amount of times you'd be like, I hate New York.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I know.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I fell full circle, and I was just like. I took psychic damage through the screen.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I would have lived there, like. Yes. And I have a show in New York coming up.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I will not be at the New York show, but I will be at the Thousand Oaks show. You come.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Thousand Oaks? You don't want to come to the New York one, too?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

If I can edit the podcast before I leave.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, that's right. Well, we're pre recording a bunch. The sub boring. But we're pre recording a bunch of guests before we go, so maybe. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Maybe Jimmy will be there too.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I would love to. I'll at least give you some restaurants that I know, if they're even still there.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You know where we eat all the time is Olive Garden in Times Square. Oh, I don't know any of the restaurants. I swear, that's.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

That's how I am out here. Here. Like, my boyfriend and I were going on five years in a few Days. And we're like, chilies. The Chili's in Encino. You gotta go.

[Cesar Flickerman]

The triple dipper. It's so good. We just went recently and it's so good. It's really getting us that triple dipper, for sure. Happy anniversary.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Thank you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's so exciting. Oh, my gosh. Any other Hot Topics? Any other one to bang out quickly?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Shawn Mendes is queer.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He came out.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

He did a. He did a show, I think last night, and he just is playing guitar and he's just like. People just ask me so many questions and it's, you know, sexuality is a real hard thing to figure out. And I'm like, work. Wow.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God, we love that. That's so exciting. That makes sense.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I also have one last one. It's very short.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Tell us. So congrats, Ishan Mendes, by the way.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Congrats, Mendes. Welcome to the club. Whatever you are. Doesn't matter.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, Work, work.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

So they're making a revival of Wizards of Way with Place.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I did see this. Yes.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And David Henry, who plays Justin Russo is going to be a big part of it. And they were filming a video today or whenever went up today of the cast just doing stuff for Buzzfeed. And one of the actors previously on Wizards of Waverly Place played Zeke. He does of now. That's his.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

That is his, you know, sort of career path and, like, work. Yeah, like, we love it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Disney might not love it.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Disney might not love it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And neither does David Henry, apparently, because he kind of shaded Zeke. Let me get the answers.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is Zeke on the revival? No. Oh, okay. Why is he cheating him then if he's not coming back anyways?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah. So they got asked. I have a direct quote from him as well. So his name is Dan Benson.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

And David Henry. I'll play the clip from David Henry because it's very important for contest.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He seems judgy. Was he judging someone before?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I'm not too sure.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I feel like he's had something a little bit like he's conservative, controversial. A little bit.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

So basically, to preface, they ask, who would you like to see come back in the revival of Wizards that was previously a character.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Who would you like to see come back? Oh, got it. And finally choose a reoccurring character who.

[Isaiah Mays]

Should guest star on Wizards Beyond Waverly Place.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Not the Cricket. Silence. I can't believe you guys put one.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Of these people on here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I know, I'm.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Oh, the kids reacting and knowing what he's talking about is crazy. Like, that's crazy. Why do the kids know? Why do the kids get the reference?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Why did the kids get the Romans? Why did they put the name on even? Because there's a list of names. Yeah, but the editing was Tea with the Crickets. Sound like something you would do to make it even more awkward. That is weird. Like, I kind of blame Disney. So he didn't say. He didn't shade him.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

So it was kind of like, I understand that. Like, they probably wouldn't have asked, but it did feel a little bit like, I don't know. You didn't need to say something.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't know what they didn't say. Did they not say anything?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I felt like the silence, the crickets, the looks between each other, and him saying, one of these people should not be on here. I think we kind of know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Which is.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

You know, it seems a little rude, but it could have been trying to be playful.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Can I just say so to finish it off? Dan Benson responds to the clip and says, it's part of my language. David Henry can suck my dick. Oh, I'll pay him more than they paid me for Wizards. I promise you that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, okay. Damn. Zeke is on fire.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Good for him.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Good for him.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Were you a Wizards fan?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I was. Yes. Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, stream the new Wizards of Waverly Embrace. You guys, thank you so much. PETA's not going down. He said, I'm here, and I'm still talking. We love it. Thank you. Jimmy, you're amazing. I love you.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Thank you very much.

[Cesar Flickerman]

This was so much fun. No, you're good. Come back anytime. We love you on the Hot Topic. You're the best. Anytime. Always and forever, PETA. Jimmy never had a Wetzel's Pretzels, ironically. Yeah, I know. Isn't that crazy?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

They did send me free merch once.

[Cesar Flickerman]

They did. Wetzel, send us some pretzels and we'll try them with you.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Honestly. Yeah, send me some coupons.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Ah, we'd love to.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I actually can use them now.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Small right there. Yeah, you can cut that if you want.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I'll bleep it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Bye, everyone.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Next up, welcome. From District 4. Or 6. So, Tevin.

[Isaiah Mays]

I'm leaving.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Joanna, queen of the bark. Hello. Oh, aren't you fabulous? You look beautiful.

[Moses Hacmon]

Thank you, Effie. You always do.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, thank you. The rebel of the group. Oh, no. Aren't you a rebel? Not a rebel. Oh, no. Technically, all of them are rebels, Right? Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm the only one that stripped down in the elevator.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. You said you were gonna do that.

[Moses Hacmon]

PETA, I have my eye on you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You look fierce.

[Moses Hacmon]

Thank you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

This is Callie, everyone. My sister. I love an audience. We really need to build an audience full time. It's the funnest episode ever. I was so worried. I was so, like, nervous, and I'm like, oh, my God. It's so much fun. This. This is great. I love it. How are you? How's everything? How's life?

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm good.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. Welcome back. Thanks for having me, Ben. I'm so excited. I love Cali on the podcast and they love you on the podcast.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love you guys.

[Cesar Flickerman]

How's life? How's everything? It's good. Gaming. Streaming. Streaming. Shout out. What's your Twitch?

[Moses Hacmon]

Calgator143.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Your Twitch? Yes. Oh, when did that happen? I didn't know I did. 2020. Oh, congrats. Really? Are you streaming? Are you making. Making money?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I think I have, like, 40 subs.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow. Yeah. Okay, Go watch her. What is it? Calgator?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. 143.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Calcator 143. Everywhere. Basically, that's your name. Calgator.

[Moses Hacmon]

It is literally everywhere. YouTube. Tick tock. Instagram.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Your lashes have held up. We've got. We got glammed. I started at 5:30 this morning. You came at 7am and so this is held up. And now it's probably like, what, one? Or something like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I think so crazy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's held up really well. So you look amazing. Do you? You picked Joanna. Why?

[Moses Hacmon]

I was gonna do Haymitch. Sorry for everyone. Because literally every time I would stream.

[Cesar Flickerman]

They'Re like, I'm so excited for your Hamish.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm like, I said that to my sister as a joke. Didn't know she would broadcast it to.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Everyone, but I thought it was gonna be so good. I. If I didn't have to wear pink, I would have been Hamish. I love him. I was trying to get him to be Haymitch. He didn't want to be Haymitch. And then you said you were going to. I was like, such as? Like, yes. Because he has his own movie coming out next year. Like, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I didn't even know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes. The young version. So they're doing like a young version of his Hunger Games. And that would have been such a slight, but, like, Woody House in is so cool. That movie. Blonde wig, a beanie would have been so. I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I just like, I do love him. He is my favorite character in the Hunger Games franchise. But I do love Joanna and her sassiness. And I feel like you Know, that's me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Queen Vibes. I love it for sure. And why did you pick the Capitol outfit?

[Moses Hacmon]

Because I wanted a pretty custom dress.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Tea. Done and done. You look very cool. You're. Well, I feel like we've done. Have you done an interview? No, we haven't done an interview with you. No. I guess we'll do a mini interview.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is the first time on the pink chair.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, and the mini. Yes. The guest chair today. So. Callie Metz, my sister, born and raised in Byron, Illinois. Shout out. Shout out. Byron. Yes. I feel like you guys have known my sister, though. I feel like you've been in so much of my stuff, and I have. People know the lore behind you.

[Moses Hacmon]

The true. The true Stans do anyway.

[Cesar Flickerman]

True Stans. Callie been here and she's back. You took a little break off social media and now you're back.

[Moses Hacmon]

I am back.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You were gone for, like, a year, but you don't really post, like, Instagram or TikTok. You just stream. No.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I can't believe people still are on Instagram, like, earlier today. But, like, honestly, like, I feel like it's Facebook now that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, I think people will be like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I messaged you on Instagram. And I'm like, I'm never gonna check.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wait, you never check Instagram? Oh. Oh, I'm on it all the time. I'm obsessed. I do those really, just for Instagram sometimes. Like, I just love Instagram. Yeah. Well, maybe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe I'll come back. Okay. I didn't know the thing.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love Instagram. I'm definitely not on Facebook, but I love that you are. No.

[Moses Hacmon]

No Facebook.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, why did you say Facebook then?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's dying. Like, Facebook. Oh, I guess facing out. Not sorry. Meta.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Not sorry. There's so much to talk about. Is there? Yes. I get most nervous with my own family. Like, most. I'm like, how do I do an interview? Because I, like, know you so well. I know everything. And I'm like, okay, what do we talk about? Because there's so much talk about. But also, I don't know what you want to talk about as far as, like, your updates on your life, where you're at.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, there's not really a lot of updates on my life.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, there is.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, not since the last time I was here. We always do, like, a recap of what I've been doing. So I've been doing streaming.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Streaming? Yeah. And no Halloween plans for you?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You're not dressing up anymore?

[Moses Hacmon]

I will probably dress up for an early stream on today.

[Cesar Flickerman]

This outfit after the podcast airs because.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't want to take your viewers.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's fine. My sister's like, can I wear this on stream? I'm like, it's fine. Everything's fine. You're gonna, like, fierce. Do you think they'll know who you are?

[Moses Hacmon]

I think so.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. I think you look really cool.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like it?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Thanks. Yay. Okay. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

This is probably the end costume for me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We were a League of Their Own. We can insert it. We were League of their Own for the kids Halloween festival, and then we were were Hunger Games for this.

[Moses Hacmon]

You freaked out about the League of Their Own. They're like, oh, my gosh, no one's.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Gonna be in costume. And I'm like, who cares?

[Moses Hacmon]

And who are you people?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, because it was like, a first time going to this particular spot with our kids, and I realized nobody was dressing up. And I just realized we were all very dressed up. And I was like, oh, my God. Maybe we weren't supposed to come in costume. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

A dress and a baseball cap is not very dressed up. I'm gonna be so for real.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, we were all matching. We were all coming in matching. But I thought it was a really good group costume because everyone loved gagged. They were very excited about it. Yeah. Yeah. And it was fun. It was fun because we never really do anything for Halloween.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't know if we're gonna come trick or treating at your house tomorrow. Maybe handing out candy. I'm just so tired.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I'm tired. I'm so tired too. You don't have to come over.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, but we want to, because, like, we.

[Moses Hacmon]

Elvis is treating to your house if you want. If you're available.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I feel like we love to get out, you know? Well, you just text me if you want to come over. How about that? I don't know. Do whatever, everyone. I'll be here. I didn't know if you guys were passing on candy as a dressing up or what. We are. You are. Some people come over.

[Moses Hacmon]

Although I feel like the stuff that I got this year is not fun because last year I had green Takis. Zombie Takis.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And do people like those? Oh, someone like that. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

And now I have zombie Kool aids.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Ooh, we'll come over for that.

[Moses Hacmon]

And pretzels. And everyone's like, nick's the pretzels.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Why the pizza? They get both of them.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love a pretzel. I love a salty snack. I think last.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Last year, you made, like, little pizzas for us too. That was kind of fun. It was kind of sad. Okay, maybe we'll come over there. Well, whatever.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don't feel pressure.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Last time we talked about what you do here on just Trish, I feel like we didn't talk about your crew position. Oh yes. My sister has worked for. She's like, honestly, like our all star tech employee. Like, you're very much. You know how to figure things out. Like you organize. You, you know every time for Patreon. Like, you tell me how much for the tiers. Like I'm always just like, I even. We added the new music tier and I was like, wait, can you tell me how many people? Cause like I don't even know how you check those things.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, like 8:30 at night. I'm like, sure, I will just. I can't go tell you right now. Let me just do that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You could have waited. It didn't have to be that way.

[Moses Hacmon]

If you ask me something, you need to know now.

[Cesar Flickerman]

My sister has worked with me for me, whatever you want to call it, I guess for like a while, like 10 years. Because you were like, you were my assistant for a little while. We talked about that. Where you got the boiling crap. We love that story. But now you do the Patreon.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And you help facilitate orders on Shopify. You're the customer service basically for our merch. Yes. You are the customer service.

[Moses Hacmon]

Shipping. I do as well.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Shipping. We now have stickers that say shipped by Cali or shipped by Lena. But now they know. I guess if you mess up the order, like it was shipped by Callie and they like let you know, I am human.

[Moses Hacmon]

And there's a lot of just Trish fans out there. So I try and do my best, but I am human. So please have grace.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, I feel someone emailed my sister and is like, if I was Trisha Paytas, I would have. What did they say? Tell them, tell them what it was about. The Like, I would have people. I would have. If I was a corporation, I would do. I would be.

[Moses Hacmon]

I would be covering all of the fees.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I'm like, well, let's just actually just give you this for free. Oh, it was, it was like they were young at my sister for the custom fees and she goes, I don't know. As a disclaimer, if you have a.

[Moses Hacmon]

Customer service question, you are directly talking to me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. There's no team or corporation. It is me. We ship out of our garage and.

[Moses Hacmon]

If you get something, it's from me or my mom.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, Literally. Literally. She answers the email, so. I know. I guess people might think we have a big one. That's why we do, like, limited quantities. A little announcement. I guess we have a new. We have the restock hoodie restock on next Tuesday, which I didn't realize was elections. Do you think that matters that my hoodie shopping? Okay. I don't know. But I also.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, ooh, slay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Bet it's on the election day. Okay, well, vote and then go get a hoodie, I guess. I don't know, but we're restocking.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or vote in your hoodie.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yeah, vote. Or maybe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, we're very fast at shipping.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I know they ship sometimes the same.

[Moses Hacmon]

Day, so I feel bad because we ship so fast. Sometimes I get a customer service email. Hey, can you cancel my order?

[Cesar Flickerman]

I've gone. That's been gone. Amazon can never. No, Trisha pride. They're shaking right now. Just Trish is coming. The restock is happening, though. It's happening next week and it'll be my mom and my sister literally doing it. But we do limited drops because of that. I feel like we just could not never handle, like 5,000 orders. So.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Check it out then. All right, Hot Topics. Okay, well, I always want to hear yours. Like, mom always sends me her hot Topics in the morning just for fun. And I want to hear like, yours. Like, what's yours?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, this, my first one is very short and sweet because TMZ is kind of crater. Is that the tour? Okay, that's me too. TMZ is wild with these Halloween costumes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But it was a who'd you rather.

[Moses Hacmon]

And like, comparison of celebrities in their costumes. But I just wanted to give a quick shout out. Our girls, Gigi and La Demi were on.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, what?

[Moses Hacmon]

They dress up as cowgirls.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I was like, slay. I love it. And it was like a tmz like top. Yes. I haven't seen them an article.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, oh, my God, they made the list.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Gigi Nets did also did mask. I think recently they did. They were holding a baby mask. They were like nasty mask. The green face. And then Gigi was Cameron Diaz. Cameron Dallas. Cameron Diaz. And they were holding a baby. I thought it was like a baby because I know they talked about, like, having a baby and so I was A baby announcement. I don't think it was. But they were cute, though. They always do. They did like Mr. And Mrs. Smith last year. Like, Gigi and Nads are always like, very. I haven't seen her in a while, but love I love to see them though.

[Moses Hacmon]

On tmz.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I'm like, the thumbnail was like the main thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I think the first one was like Paris Hilton and Megan Thee Stallion.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, what'd they do?

[Moses Hacmon]

They did. What's her name? She's like anime girl. Sailor Moon.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, okay. That's cute. I love that. What's been your favorite Halloween costume you've seen?

[Moses Hacmon]

Honestly, the most creative one that I've seen was dress to impress.

[Cesar Flickerman]

How do they do that on Oscar? Oscar.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were in like, just like a. Can I say this? A little outfit.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, well, bleep.

[Moses Hacmon]

But then they printed out the stars and they gave themselves a five star, like, cute.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's a really cute. I love when people do that. Yeah. What's your favorite gay Twitter one?

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, you haven't seen them?

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm not on Twitter. X Twitter.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, you're not at all. Like, like, they're like, I hate gay Halloween. What do you mean? You're chaperone in the passenger seat. Like, you know, there's like a weird combination. Am I explaining that right? Like, okay, so like, I don't know. Don't know any of those weird combinations you haven't seen anywhere?

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, sorry.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's fine. Sorry. I thought it was a universal thing. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I guess it's just a Twitter thing.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. You're not on Twitter. Twitter and Instagram. I guess it's just like, wow, you really boycott. Why? You're like, no Elon Musk.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's just too much. I get overstimulated on too many apps.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Let's see. I get that. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Too much news. I just like to keep it to my own two little apps. My Twitch and my.

[Cesar Flickerman]

My Tick Tock. You do scroll through Tick Tock.

[Moses Hacmon]

What's your upright Wild right now?

[Cesar Flickerman]

What is it?

[Moses Hacmon]

But I was loving the Brie powers. I know that's old news, but she's apparently now and going through trouble. Trial because she tried to mediate. I don't know. She was like, for what?

[Cesar Flickerman]

She's getting evicted.

[Moses Hacmon]

Remember when I said that? I don't think that she's. I think she's living in that storefront.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is the. Okay, so she's. It's the. It's the one that was on the Mormon dating app and yelled at the guy that came over to get his teeth cleaned.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's like a whole story into it.

[Moses Hacmon]

White and snack clean. She's a hygienist.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, she whitened. She was whitening his whitening yeah, for 100 or something, I guess. But then she was like, I need to pay rent, so you need to, like, give me more money.

[Moses Hacmon]

She asked for 2,000.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't know. She's so insane. But Mormon talk is. Yeah, I feel for her. I feel like she has maybe some issues, but she's like this pretty, like, blonde girl that was on this, like, Mormon dating app. And this guy, like, was gonna meet up with her. Although he. There was a lot of red flags that he ignored. Again, not to. Not to victim blame, but there was a lot of red flags made. Mainly like, I need my rent paid. Like, pay my rent. He's like, I don't even know you, but he's the one get his teeth cleaned.

[Moses Hacmon]

But also, what a weird. If you're trying to get a date, I'm going to pay you to whiten my teeth. And then if, you know, we both vibe, then we'll go out on date. Like, huh.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I guess he was like, either shoot.

[Moses Hacmon]

Your shot or don't.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I guess it's kind of nice. It's kind of like if someone's like, oh, like, I'm gonna. I don't know, like, no, that's weird. What is on. Donated to you, like, $5,000 on Twitch, wouldn't you be like, maybe I'll go on a date with that person? Really? No. Thank you for the 5,000.

[Moses Hacmon]

Goodbye.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And they're like, why don't you go.

[Moses Hacmon]

Play three games with you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Not hate. No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What does it take to get a date with you? Because you don't. You're not the dating type anymore.

[Moses Hacmon]

Take a lot.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really? You just don't like to get. You don't like to do it well.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, it's just, like, I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Picky.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I'm not even picky. It's just, like, can be anyone, honestly.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Then what is it? I just, like, love.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm protecting my piece, I think.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. Okay. You're just happy because, you know, my sister always has her hair, her makeup done. I was like, oh, my God. That was what I hated about dating, was doing that part. But you have it just to, like, come over to my house. And I was like, how do you do your hair and makeup every single day?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I just think I'm in a good spot in my life, and I just, like, don't want anyone to put their little grubby mitts on it, you know?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, same thing. You guys are very similar. It is very interesting. I know. I'm always. I'm always so Curious. But I love that. I love that for you. I love that about you. Very cool. So don't donate to get a date with my sister. Well, do if you want to, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don'T expect anything in return.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Would you ever do a dating show? I want to get my sister on, like, Love is Blind, but you're like, oh, no. Just for funsy to get your, like, numbers up on Twitch. No, no. People might see and be like, oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Do it for the plot. No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, well, respect.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's too. It's too much. I did it once with the comedian show. I don't need to do it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love this area because you have, like, a lot of times you have been with boyfriends, and I don't see you as much. I do love this era. I at least get to see you. And I always say that I'm like, I'm so thankful we get this time, because you just never know.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's like, I just want to know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love it. I'm happy. Yeah. I'm happy that you're happy. And you are the happiest, I think. I honestly, like, I've known you through all the eras, and I feel like you're the happiest now, so. I'm always happy you're happy, so I'm happy you're happy. Okay, Hot Topic queen. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, my other one, Brian Austin Green, is trying to get back in the news, I guess, because we did talk.

[Cesar Flickerman]

About this in glance. Were you here when we talked about it this morning?

[Moses Hacmon]

I was the one talking to you. I gave you a little tidbit.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You were giving the Hot Topic. Yes, because you asked me what it was.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm like, do you want to know? But anyways, apparently he's been talking to everybody, Page Six and TMZ about.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really?

[Moses Hacmon]

About his divorce with.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He's been talking about it. Maybe he'll come on our show. Maybe. Do you think he would? I bet he would. Love the platform.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's trying to get in there.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. I kind of live for him. He's so hot.

[Moses Hacmon]

How long ago did they divorce? Like, forever ago.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. He just doesn't stop talking. He doesn't, but I get it. Like, that's your claim to fame. Yeah, I was gonna say so the time I was married to meeting Fox, like, that's kind of everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

So he explains as to why their marriage crumbled, and apparently it's because she was annoyed of everything. And I'm like, slay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because she was annoyed at everything. What does that mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, chewed. She was annoyed Of.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And I divorced.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I. You know how it builds up over time. She was 24 when they got married.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh. But they were like 18 when they met. 18. So after that, like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. You're gonna grow out of an old man.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Because how old was he?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like 30, 37.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. That's gross. I just don't want him on anymore. I hate that. That's so ick. That's so weird. Sorry. Trying to get you on. No, I liked him on Desperate Housewives. He dated Brie in one season. I really liked him on that, but then I was like, ill. That's kind of ick. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And also, like, why is she talking about it like he is married with like another child. And I'm like, do we need to keep talking about it? Exactly.

[Moses Hacmon]

And it's like years since they've been together, so it was odd timing that he brought it up. But I just think that it's.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So is he promoting something?

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, he's just giving interviews. Yes. Okay. Love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

And just bringing her up. And I'm like, this is so random.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, and now you're on team Megan side then.

[Moses Hacmon]

I am on team Megan because I totally get that too. Like, maybe don't be annoying then. I don't know for chewing. But you know how, like you can just exist in a space with someone and you're like, you're actually really bothering me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, that means you just don't like the person then.

[Moses Hacmon]

Exactly.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because I feel like things that annoy me about Moses don't annoy me.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what he just doesn't get. They just. She wasn't into him anymore.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I guess he gets it because they're divorced.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, no, because he's like, oh, she was just annoyed of me. I'm like, no, honey, I think it's way deeper than that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, you think there was something like more that he likes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Doesn't like you anymore.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Well, that's what happens when you start dating an 18 year old. They grow out of you. Exactly. Yeah. And you had three babies. Babies. And it's a lot.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Good for her. Good for her. For breaking Free. Mgk.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know. Oh, I think so. No, I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Remember that girl in Love is blind was like MGK's girlfriend. Yes. And reference. I love Mega Fox. I think she's a queen. I love you.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's like her. Her season.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What is she doing now?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, no, it's like spooky season. Jennifer's boy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Jennifer's Body. No. Yeah. You know, the girls are here earlier playing set. The Drip Dome. They built a whole Jennifer Bodies pool in someone's, like, garage. It was so cool. That's how I knew I wanted them as, like, set designers, because I was like, wait, they're so good.

[Moses Hacmon]

Give me that, too.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. I was like, I have a garage. Can you build that?

[Moses Hacmon]

Four garages, actually. I need something in every garage.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We cleared out one just for photo shoots, and it kind of slays for a photo shoot. I kind of love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Amazing.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, it's really cool. And then when you see it, it's like, wow. It doesn't even look like it's in your garage. It's very cool. We're trying to clean out the fourth stall. That's what my mom's current project is, cleaning out the fourth. We can ask about it when she comes on.

[Moses Hacmon]

Does your mom.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It is so weird, because I feel like you're a guest. I'm like, my mom. Our mom. We do share mom, everybody.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes, we do.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Different dads, but honestly. Yeah, but I feel like you're a full sister.

[Moses Hacmon]

You are my full sister.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, technically not, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, yeah, whatever.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But I feel like you are. We're the closest. I love having two girls because we are the closest. We love our brother, but I see you the most. Well, you also live very close.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm, like, down the street.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Which is great.

[Moses Hacmon]

Which I love.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. What was your second one? I saw you.

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, you had one. You had one. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I had three. Someone had three. Was it? You got three. Oh, you had three. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I was gonna talk about the Shawn Mendes thing.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes. I don't even know this. Oh, the queerness. Yes. Love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

But he wasn't. He was very ambiguous about it, though. He, like, didn't say one or the other. He doesn't have to either.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, but what is.

[Isaiah Mays]

That's what bi is.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, I know, I know, I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

But a lot of people, a lot of the news are like, oh, he's gay. It's like. Well, he didn't really say that either.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, yeah. He's just. But also. Whatever. Didn't he just like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was it Sabrina and Camila Cabello?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Weren't they feuding over him?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, I guess a while ago. I guess it's like an old feud in the song. But then it's like, actually, I didn't want either of you. He's like, that's a real gift. Look at you. I love it. So he did address it it was like, in concert. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

While he was strumming on the guitar.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I do love that. There is something very cathartic about it too. Yeah. I just love when people, like, don't answer. I think that's also good because nobody's business. I guess it's like human nature to know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I just thought it was funny because, like, their whole feud was because of this one guy. And he's like, I just don't want either of you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I want no one. Maybe he's like you, where he's just like, I don't want anyone. You should date him. Oh, God, here we go. And Callie, he is very cute, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

He'S very young, isn't he?

[Cesar Flickerman]

No. Isn't he like 30, mid-20s? Oh, really? I feel like he's been around forever. I didn't know. Okay, well, I wanted the weekend, but I see, like, having a baby with Anita. I keep seeing him post. She's pregnant. She's like a singer. Singer, rapper. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. He keeps posting like, oh, it's almost here, and it's like her pregnant belly. And I'm like, oh, thought he was dating like a mom poster. Yeah. Oh, I wonder if it's. You didn't hear about this? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm like, way wrong about this, but I'm right. He's having a baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he keeps posting like he's sharing photos of, like, her, like, sonograms and stuff on his. But he has. He's still this girlfriend. She, like, just announced her pregnancy and she's like, really far along. So it is kind of weird.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's what he's. He's commenting all over and they still with the model girl, as far as I know.

[Isaiah Mays]

It wasn't a collab post, was it?

[Cesar Flickerman]

A collab post, like a joint one? No. I don't know what was happening, but. Oh, Sexy Smith Alive comes out tomorrow. Who do you think is going to be on the COVID They started announcing some already. They started announcing like, hottest musician and hottest. Who do you think is gonna be cover star?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, gosh, I don't even know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Who are the contenders? Oscar. No. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a Jonathan Bailey. Maybe a Pedro Pascal?

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, no, none of those. If you had to choose a Jonathan Bailey or Pedestrian. That's our debate here on Pedro Pascal.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I just wouldn't see that for him. You know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He'S in the new Gladiator. Sexiest man alive. I mean, he is hot, but not sexy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sexiest man are you gonna see Gladiator.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Or Wicked if you had to choose? Only one?

[Moses Hacmon]

Wicked.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, There you go. November 22nd.

[Moses Hacmon]

I've never seen a Gladiator movie.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wow. That's a flex.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I saw one against my will. I did not want to see it. I saw the one with Joaquin Phoenix. I don't know which one that. We had to see it in school, actually. It must have been out a while ago because I was, like, still in high school, and I remember we watched Gladiator and I was like, this is awful, boring and violent.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

For no reason. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, I don't love history either, so.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Neither do I. Do you remember the Gladiator commercial with Beyonce and Pink and Britney Spears?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So good. Was it Pepsi Super Bowl?

[Moses Hacmon]

We will.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We remember. That was so iconic. Oh, my God. Well, Halloween is amongst us. Favorite Halloween memory. It's today, actually. So what is your favorite Halloween memory? My favorite?

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, actually, it's kind of full circle because we didn't really do much growing up. I mean, the one memory of childhood that I had was I was Princess Jasmine, but we lived in the Midwest at the time, so they made me wear tights underneath my costume. And my mom and my dad.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, because you were gonna be cold.

[Moses Hacmon]

But Chester didn't do it, so it was, like, inauthentic.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But anyways, did your belly. Would you cover your belly, too?

[Moses Hacmon]

I had a whole turtleneck underneath.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, you had the full.

[Moses Hacmon]

I should have brought a photo because it's. It was so sad.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Do you have a picture of it at home?

[Moses Hacmon]

I'll have to find it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Insert the picture. That's. That's your. No, that's not it.

[Moses Hacmon]

No. But I'm just saying, I always wanted to, like, commit to the bit, you know?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And so, like, when we moved out here, I found friends. And actually, one of my friends used to work as a security guard in this community. Gator community. And so he would get invited to these super lavish parties. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm gonna go all out. So I started my costume. I was gonna be a mermaid.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I remember this one.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I started making it in August, and I came here and I was like, oh, my gosh, this is like Real Housewives.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like, really in this community. That's so funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was my first taste of, like, oh, my God. People actually live, like, this is insane.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You know, crazy. I mean, it is really nice, but it's like, it just shows when you get out of la, like, what? You can live life because like, in la, you could spend the money we spend on this house on, like, literally a condo. Like, literally, like, the smallest condo ever. So it's like, once you get out of LA and, like, see what you can do.

[Moses Hacmon]

But, like, that's even way back when. Like, when you and mom still share.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That can be our interview. We shared a bedroom. We had two bathrooms. And my sister got her own bedroom at 16.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. And me, my mom, I'm 22, and my mom is like, you know, hoarder.

[Moses Hacmon]

I could not.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What. What does that mean, though?

[Moses Hacmon]

You had a mound of clothes that you had to climb up like a mountain.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes, it is. No, it's not what it is. And I was like, why does Callie get her own room? And my mom would be like, I just have missed you all these years you've been gone. And I. So we shared a room. And I was like. But then when I started dating, I had to be like, pretend like my mom was just like, our roommate or something. And I was just like, oh, I don't know. My mom's just here. And you always got. And I always. I had a little resentment towards it. So I was like.

[Moses Hacmon]

But you know what I was thinking? I was literally thinking about that the other week, and I'm like, I know. She says, like, oh, well, Cali got.

[Callie Metz]

Her own room or whatever.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I'm like, literally, it's because I get so. I think it's because I'm just. My ADHD for real.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't think that's why, because at.

[Moses Hacmon]

The time, I overstimulated. Like, if even now, to this day, like, when I see something not put away, like, last night, I wanted. I needed to stream. But I was like, I really have got to clean this disaster of a house up because I cannot think straight.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is, like, the cleanest house ever. Like, your house is very clean.

[Moses Hacmon]

Saying, like, if I had to live in that room, I don't think that I would be.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, six tubs. It was, like, not even crazy. We had to build with all of.

[Moses Hacmon]

Your things in tubs. And then next to your bedside, it was a mound of just clothes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, so, like, that. I mean, that's just a mound wherever it goes. Like, I don't know what to tell you about that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Now you have the space to just hide it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't know. I was like, we need to get another house. I feel like we're running out space. We're just shoving everything everywhere. But we are cleaning it out soon and foremost.

[Moses Hacmon]

But I do think that was My favorite because it's like, wow, life is a funny way of just, like, coming full circle because now you're here, you manifested it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You found this community for us. And. Yeah, you saw the house. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But, yeah, that was my favorite.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Life is worth living.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know what that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You know, you always want to sing with me because you sing with me and you. He didn't give me anything. But I wonder.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know what the next word would be.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You know this one? The arena. The arena. You know it. You know it.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's all I know of that one.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wait, really? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

What else did he sing?

[Cesar Flickerman]

This game's been played before. 73 times 1. The faster you die, the faster you lose. Oh. Dance. Children wielding yappins. Feeling sort of the arena. Not the arena. This is a. We are. Wait.

[Callie Metz]

Oh, wait.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Play it again. Play it again. Sorry.

[Moses Hacmon]

Shut up yourself. Or though we did like that song. Oh.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, so sad. Do your. That's not me. That's Katie. That's only one.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's third district.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, no, 12th.

[Moses Hacmon]

But this is like, the sign of peace or something.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, so that could be you, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. Okay. Our rebel, everyone. Callie. Mac.

[Moses Hacmon]

Thank you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Thanks for coming. Oh, look. Oh, what is this? Am I helping you? Oh, no, I was. I was shaking your hand. Next up, we have from the district of the Sea, Scales and all our legendary, the one and only Megs. Hop on up here. Wow. We have the notes. This is what we have in common. Here, put it there. Yes. Hi, Mom. Our shipper of the. Of the crew of Just Trish, my mom, shipping extraordinaire. She loves to ship how many boxes?

[Callie Metz]

My life.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love you. It's her life, is it not her life? How many boxes do you ship a day? You ship, like, 20 boxes a day.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah, I feel them. Post office people love me. I could be a deck worker on there.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You did work in the box office. People wanted to know about the post office.

[Callie Metz]

Load that little Jeep up. I'll tell you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We gotta get her a van. But my mom's so picky about her van. She doesn't want a console in the middle. I'm like, what van doesn't have a console? Like, I would just go buy you one because I need to get her, like, a new vehicle to, like, tow all these boxes in. But she's very particular about her vehicle.

[Callie Metz]

Because if I'm driving and I want to pull over, take a nap, I just go. I don't have to go outside. I just go inside and lay Down.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. My mom loves a van.

[Callie Metz]

Hopefully Volkswagen.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We're waiting for the Volkswagen, but that's not coming out yet. When are those out?

[Callie Metz]

I don't know if they're even going to come to the U.S. electric.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. They're supposed to be here, but I guess waiting when it happens. We'll get you that. Folks, my mom's had our Jeep now.

[Callie Metz]

For, like, I know between yellow or green, so I don't know. There's no pink.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Can make it pink.

[Callie Metz]

Was there a pink?

[Cesar Flickerman]

No. Make it though, Maybe. Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

You know what I want to do? I want to wrap the Jeep and have just Trish on it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

The opposite of incognito.

[Callie Metz]

And then I'd always have to do my makeup like Callie, so forget it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You wear this in disguise. Then nobody would recognize you.

[Callie Metz]

I know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, my mom always. You got me my first two cars. So then I always think, like, what kind of cars can we get my mom? So onto the next.

[Callie Metz]

We have the Johnny Depp car.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yep. I love that car so much.

[Callie Metz]

That was a beat up old thing, though. The tires didn't work. The heat didn't work. You had to wear a blanket. That was a car. I was so happy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We had just seen Secret Window and he drove a Jeep Cherokee. And I was like, ooh, I want that car. And then the license plate said depth 63 on it. I really loved him back in the day. That was great. My dad. I remember my dad got my brother, like a really fancy mountaineer when he turned 16. And I was like, oh, I can't wait for my car. And had like, leather seats. And then he's like, no car for you. I was like, oh, okay. My mom's like, we'll get you one. And I was like, okay. It wasn't leather seats, but I loved it. It was great. It only broke down towards the end. And then I drove my mom's stick shift to school. And then you got me the Beetle bug, too.

[Callie Metz]

Oh, you put.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You put your credit down or down payment or something down.

[Callie Metz]

But didn't you get a dent, like, in it the first week?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, I did. I hit a parked car the only time in my apartment building. It was bad.

[Callie Metz]

But here's a great story too, though. When you. We were late for the airport to take me and Callie back, and you're like, what was it, three in the morning?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Four.

[Callie Metz]

And it was dark and she was. I can't see you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was before glasses. Yeah. I went over the median. Like, here in California, they have these, like, chunky feet. And my whole bottom came down and I was like, oh, is everyone okay? And everyone was fine. But I just. I just couldn't see at the time. No, I didn't have glasses at the time. I didn't know I couldn't see. And I now drive with glasses, so. Do you? I do. I do. Especially at night. I definitely drive with glasses. Cause Mo's always hands it to me before I go. He's like, make sure you wear your glasses. Cause he also knows I can't see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

So.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was great. But I loved it. I loved all the cars and always thankful for it. I remember getting that Beetle bug and loving it so much.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, thanks.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Thank you. And then I was able to make the payments because. Well, that's a whole other story. We shared a sugar daddy for a minute. He's so sweet. He was so sweet. There's so many people in our lives that like, helped us out.

[Callie Metz]

And that was really nice. We could write a novel.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

All of us together.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, not a novel. I'm writing my life, but I don't have that chapter in there. I could. You should. You should write a novel.

[Callie Metz]

You didn't ask me why I picked Megs.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I just was about to ask.

[Callie Metz]

Not Meg's. Meg. Sorry, I've not watched the Hunger Games.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, you haven't seen the Hunger Games. But why did you pick Megs? Because also, we gave my mom the option. We gave my mom and sister many options. It was Haymitch. It was Joanna. It was Lucy Gray. It was President Coyne, it was President Snow. There were so many people.

[Moses Hacmon]

So why?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Why did you choose? This actually wasn't even an option. And my mom chose it. So how did that come to be? Cause I remember. So how did it come to be?

[Callie Metz]

Well, I like to say it's cause I lost the rock paper scissors game, but. Cause I'm the oldest out of everybody.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's not why I gave you the option. I gave you Lucy Gray. You could have won that. Really cute. Like, I thought that's the one you were gonna pick. The one with the colorful skirt.

[Callie Metz]

Well, Callie goes, oh, you can be Meg. So I'm like, okay, I didn't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't know who she was.

[Callie Metz]

I thought she's probably some sexy young thing. I looked at her picture.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I'm like.

[Callie Metz]

So this is Mag's hair after the beauty salon.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wait, that's why you picked it? Cuz you screamed. You're like, ah, I need to be that one. Why did you pick her?

[Callie Metz]

Well, I couldn't Play any of the young ones. Everybody be like, she's too old to play.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Julianne Moore had this hair. She was. She was going to.

[Callie Metz]

She's kind of blase, though.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I.

[Callie Metz]

You know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Callie Metz]

Mags is like, drag her, you know, and she doesn't wear a lot of me.

[Oscar]

She's not coming out of the pocket.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Fantastic. Come on, bae. Okay, so you like Meg. So you thought she was fierce? Well, it would have been okay.

[Callie Metz]

I've never watched the Hunger Games, but, you know, I've read about her online. What was her secret weapon? Fishnets and fish hooks.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is that her secret weapon?

[Callie Metz]

Well, I was not. Callie goes, that's a weapon. Secret weapon.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I like her abilities or skills or something like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

She said superpowers. They don't have superpowers.

[Callie Metz]

Callie is so technical. I'm sorry.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But she wanted to be Meg's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cause she thought Joey Christopher was gonna be here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't know what that would have been. Thanks, Cat.

[Callie Metz]

Well, Joey, I did read that part of it, too. She had to say goodbye to him somehow.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, that would have been actually nice photo. So that would have been a really good. That would have been a good one.

[Callie Metz]

Joey.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was good. No, because he. He was supposed to be fitting, and I was super excited. I was like, oh, that actually goes so well.

[Callie Metz]

That's true.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because we've been talking about him every single episode. And I was like. I think I commented. I think he posted maybe. Did he post fit or something? I don't know. He posted something. And I was like, can you wear this on my podcast? And they sent me down. He's like, yes, I'd love to. And then I was like, this is the day. He's like, oh, I'm not there, but I'll come another day. And I was like, okay, well, you missed it. You missed the opportunity to send a.

[Callie Metz]

Video to Jimmy and have him here. And they'd be like, that, well, this.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Place of Finnick footage on there, so we can insert him somewhere. Jimmy, insert him somewhere. Yeah, it was. He wanted to play that role. It would have been good.

[Callie Metz]

Well, we might have to do this all again then.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. Part two. Part two. It was really fun.

[Callie Metz]

We changed Dark our characters, though. We all be somebody.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, you don't survive past the movie, so I don't know. You have to switch the characters. You and Cinna are the ones out on this one, but that's okay. You could always be another character. You guys could play someone else, so. All right.

[Callie Metz]

I've always noticed, too. Everybody's up Here with their phone, you could tell how old I am. I've got my notes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I do, too. I keep my phone there. I usually have a note card.

[Callie Metz]

And my cute car person couldn't come today. I love it, but I love that you have. I'm not going to look at them, but.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And how are you with. Before we get to Hot Topics, how are you? Just Trisha Shipping. How do you like it being in the shipping department?

[Callie Metz]

I do. You know, people, you know, we ship them out fast. I mean, we were just crazy. I said, why? We don't have to ship them out this fast. But it's like, we love to get our stuff, you know?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. Wow.

[Callie Metz]

We're a pretty good team, I gotta say.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And it's actually like every day, my mom's like, when those hoodies coming in? When are those hoodies coming in? I'm ready to ship. But I'm like, I don't know. It's coming.

[Callie Metz]

And then, because I want to get just the right exact cute poly mailers.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You know, loves a good meal.

[Callie Metz]

You can't have the squares anymore. Everybody bought those for some reason.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Crazy. Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

Just like you saw them. Cups them.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Everyone wanted that. Yeah. My mom does the posh. She sells all the clothes. I have more posh for you to take. It's so much. And she goes through. She went through all my storage units. And now she is going through our fourth stall garage to. We're gonna have just headquarters in there. We're gonna do a whole shipping thing in there. And so that's true. Once we figured out.

[Callie Metz]

But I love the who it was packed by, because Callie would blame me if we forgot one.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's you. It's you. No.

[Callie Metz]

So thank you for those.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I was the only one to get the complaint about the customs. Right. Was that the only complaint you got? Oh, Patreon. Okay. Like, it was packed by Cat. I was like, oh, and she's also customer service. Oh, something else. Okay, got it. They complained to you, the customer service person, but you also packed it. They're like, well, it's both me, sweetie. Sorry. I don't know what to tell you. All right.

[Callie Metz]

Buy her something.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I'll let them know. I'll let Callie know.

[Callie Metz]

But for these cups, you know, you had a certain amount, and I was packing them all. And that Callie comes down from her little roost and she goes, could you put some stickers that I packed in?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because I'm up there working hard. I'm bringing all the labels. Bob, I guess you aren't packing that. It's like, how old are you, 10? But she said, no, I did.

[Callie Metz]

I did put some in.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Can you put some that say you packed my trash, too? So they think, get my sticker, too.

[Callie Metz]

Mo says, okay, Actually, my sister packed.

[Cesar Flickerman]

By everybody, you know, Made with love by everybody. Callie did come up with the return address. It says Just Trish, and it has my little, like, picture on there. So if you get something in the mail, it's. I don't know that. What if you start opening them in the mail? You know, like workers, they see it's a Just Trish package. Like, let me get my headshot. It's a crime. Okay. Period.

[Callie Metz]

First of all, why is it I feel like I'm yelling on this? It's because I live with her.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That girl.

[Callie Metz]

My voice has gotten louder.

[Cesar Flickerman]

This is us every day. Every day. I love it. I love the back and forth. Okay, okay. Everything's good. Okay. What's Moses.

[Callie Metz]

When you come on, you can slow things down a little, slow things out with Mo. You're looking pretty hot back there right now.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You do look really good with the gold chain and the ponytail. I love it. Did the chain come down or was it supposed to come up?

[Oscar]

It was choking me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, got it. Moses has been a trooper with the wigs.

[Callie Metz]

He's not a neck person.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He's not. He cuts everything out. Hot Topics, mama. Okay.

[Callie Metz]

Well, of course.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's your moment for the notes if you want them.

[Callie Metz]

Oh, no, I'm okay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love it.

[Callie Metz]

The Golden Bachelorette.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Watched it for you last night.

[Callie Metz]

Thank you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I started watching it, and then I kind of fell off.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, too.

[Callie Metz]

I watched the first episode, and I was like, oh, you know, the guys seem dud again. But it. I binge watch it, and it's really pretty good, I gotta say.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

So much better than the Gary.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You were a Gary hater from the beginning, but you were right about him.

[Callie Metz]

Because when he made my guest appearance, I'm like, why is he taking that glory? He does not need to be on this show, I guess, people.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Especially since he, like, didn't. The marriage didn't work out. So it's like, don't come promote the Bachelor because you failed at it and it was a fake.

[Callie Metz]

So much came out about him. It's like.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But she's this.

[Callie Metz]

I love her a lot.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So her name's Joanne, right?

[Callie Metz]

Joan.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Joan. Joan. Joan. Yes. I do like her.

[Callie Metz]

The right one.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She looks amazing. My only gripe a little bit is that they're also young because I Wouldn't consider them golden age, you know what I mean? And I feel like there's still young enough to be like, find the people without the show set.

[Callie Metz]

Pascal, he's 69. And if you don't win, please call me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, you love. Oh, my God.

[Callie Metz]

Yes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You do it back to Chicago, though.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Would you?

[Callie Metz]

But no, she's gonna do a long distance thing. She said.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Where's she from?

[Callie Metz]

I think Maryland.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh.

[Callie Metz]

None of them watch it. They have no help.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love it. I love a golden backdrop. I'm obsessed with it. I think it's so good. Two of the guys were Chicago, actually. Chicago's not bad. Like, we didn't grow up. We grew up outside of Chicago, actually. Going to Chicago was fun. We used to go in there all the time. Yeah, he's very. He's very cute, but he's around women all day because he's a hairstylist. So I feel like that would be a little insecure about that. His son was very good looking. His kids were good looking, but his.

[Callie Metz]

Background was really great. When he first gets to the house, he's like, you know, I do. I'll design your clothes. I don't wash my own clothes. I don't cook. That's not his accent. But it's not a clothes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It was a French accent. Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

Very sexy guy for his age. I'm like, wow.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, call my mom. Maybe he's the next bachelor. You should apply to be the bachelorette.

[Callie Metz]

I know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

If he was the next bachelor, golden bachelor. Would you apply?

[Callie Metz]

Yes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God.

[Callie Metz]

Every woman would apply.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Callie Metz]

He takes trips. He eats only at the finest places.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We should be able to get you on there because they always. You know what I mean? No, they. Do you remember that one Bachelorette? The one who was on Joey season? Her dad got to be on it because she was the bachelor. Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

So I was just like, these are awesome outfit, so.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Or they probably want him to be the next bachelor. They probably want him because he's like, kind of. He was kind of like a little like.

[Callie Metz]

But he has no personality.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Their date was. Their day was rough on the boat.

[Callie Metz]

I don't know if it's how they edited it, but, you know.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I've seen the first season.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Did you. Did you like it?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I love the women. I can't watch straight men on tv.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. The women are so cool.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

One of them. One of them kept farting. And that was her storyline.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It wasn't the Kris Jenner look al like that one. Yes. I loved her. She should have been the next Bachelor. Yeah, she was. Yeah, you would.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should be the Bachelorette.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, I think she has to go on and compete, and then unless they want to put her on there, I would love it too. I applied for her first season and they didn't call. So call my mom. We're so close. We live five minutes from the Bachelor mansion. I could just drop you off.

[Callie Metz]

I know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You know, there it is. I would love to. And I'll be on the show, too, if you want me to be. I'll be a presenter. I think that's what that.

[Callie Metz]

The dash buy me on every row ceremony.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes. I think the first, when the dad came, the one who was on the Bachelor, the Bachelorette girl, I think she was there with her dad. She goes, oh, hi, Joan. I want you to meet my dad. I'm like, okay, well, that's not really fair. You're giving the leg up. But I'd be happy to do that.

[Callie Metz]

Well, that one bachelor, Jordan, when he got nixed, he and that Leslie from the Bachelorette are Bachelor together.

[Cesar Flickerman]

How they just, like, DM'd each other, I don't know. Yeah, like, on their.

[Callie Metz]

I like him. I think Joan was trying to set some up.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She. Cause she's.

[Callie Metz]

And one thing I read, she said, oh, I set one up and that didn't work. But the second one worked, so it must be them too.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's pretty cool. I guess. Like, it is hard. I was thinking about that, like, finding, like, love because at that age only because, like, it's like, you don't go out. You know what I mean? It's like you guys go out to, like, clubs or on dating apps or something like that.

[Callie Metz]

And I think, wasn't she from Minnesota, which is kind of close to Chicago? Chicago.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, that would make sense then. Yeah. If you're both in the same vicinity. I know we put my mom on, like, bumble around here, and it's like, I don't know, the older men around.

[Callie Metz]

Here are just, you know, like, the 65 year olds look like they're. They just didn't take care of themselves. I'm sorry, but not that all women do.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But my mom's like a Jane Fonda over here, where Jane Fonda's like, I do not like old men. I mean, do you? And you're very young. You keep yourself up. You love to be active. You love to eat little. Like, you love all that. Yeah, eat little.

[Callie Metz]

You can eat, girl.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yeah.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Callie Metz]

Where's the pizza? Where's the pizza?

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, my mom is a leftover queen. I will say that. I never know if you actually eat the leftovers. You said a lot of been thrown away.

[Callie Metz]

Most of the time though.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. She loves the leftover for sure.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Which is great. We have more upstairs if you left over. And we don't even have the cocoa cake down here. We were supposed to show it, but that's okay. Mel said it was downstairs. She said it's downstairs. When my mom asked her where it.

[Callie Metz]

Was, she goes down there. And then Trisha goes, you weren't supposed to say anything cuz she wants this piece yesterday.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She want that cake so bad. So when my mom was like, did you have some cocoa cake yesterday? She like, no, she. That's all she asked for last night. She had 10 cupcakes. So everyone can calm down because she did not that many. She had like three cupcakes but everyone's like, oh my God, I can't give her cake. And I was like, it was getting.

[Callie Metz]

A lot of cupcakes, so maybe half a cupcake.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, she didn't eat much, I guess. I guess Moses knocked the frosting off the first one. I didn't know I gave her one with a frosting. That's what we do with.

[Callie Metz]

What are those cupcakes we buy with the little sprinkles? Yes, I love them. Knock the frosting off.

[Cesar Flickerman]

There's the cake is better.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So who do you think is going to win Golden Bachelorette?

[Callie Metz]

Well, did you see the bowling one? Right?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes.

[Callie Metz]

Was it Shock Chalk?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Chalk?

[Callie Metz]

Is that his name?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

From Wichita, Kansas. In the Midwest. Midwest. I guess.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Shout Out.

[Callie Metz]

He was all over her and the other guys are like, give us a chance.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was a lot. That was too much, I think.

[Callie Metz]

But also when hers hometown town thing, wasn't that a little odd the.

[Cesar Flickerman]

With the mom?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

It's like.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, I think she just. She just died, I think.

[Callie Metz]

But to take her. And they planted a tree at a friend's ranch.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

And then she got to pull her daughter on it too. It's like that was a very private moment.

[Moses Hacmon]

Jenkin was fine.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Wait, why would you like it? You thought like she shouldn't be there, it's too early, too soon or something. Yeah, I mean, well, I guess he felt comfortable enough. He said he loved her, so I.

[Callie Metz]

Guess he felt her really bad.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. So I guess maybe he felt the connection enough. I don't know.

[Callie Metz]

I guess maybe I love.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I guess I know what you mean. Like she's on dates with other guys, so maybe it's like, not that serious.

[Callie Metz]

I felt like it could have been awkward for her, though. It's like just family.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I feel like someone wanted me even if I didn't know someone. And they're like, oh, will you come to this person's bear? I'll be like, okay. Like, if they want my support, well, that's you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Pretty much everything.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I'm not going with someone. Sorry. I don't know. I guess. I guess I know. Yeah, I guess that.

[Callie Metz]

But I did like Pascal State. I feel they had that all planned for him, you know, for sure.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think they. I think. Jeff. Yes.

[Callie Metz]

They're not Vegas Newton. He got teeth.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I know.

[Callie Metz]

He got his teeth fixed.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He looks so good. That's one you should date. Is he married? I love Wayne Newton.

[Callie Metz]

I think he married somebody out of his audience one time.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What is it?

[Isaiah Mays]

A lot of people to pick from.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, he's like, I like this one. Yeah, that's the dream.

[Callie Metz]

I think they're still together, but that's pretty good. I remember him when he was on the Lucy Show.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You do?

[Callie Metz]

Yes. He. He was in a barn and bib singing to his cow, wasn't he?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, was he?

[Callie Metz]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

God, how old is he now?

[Callie Metz]

Oh, gosh. He must be. Is he 80? Who's fact checking?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Nobody. Later. Later. Jimmy puts it in the edit.

[Callie Metz]

Well, you got a lot of editing to do, Jimmy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I know, I know. Oh, my gosh.

[Callie Metz]

Especially this segment right here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

82 was a quick with it. 82. He looks pretty good.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah, I do.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think I love the idea of the Bachelor Gold Master. I just wish they were a little older because there's a lot of good older gentlemen, you know? I mean, he knows he's married, but if he wasn't, he'd be a good one. Dick Van Dyke. He's so cute. That to me is golden. That's like, you know, I guess a little past golden. I guess at that point. We love him, though. We do love him. I love him so much.

[Callie Metz]

Well, who do you think's gonna win?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, I wanted. Was it Charles? I wanted Charles, but he's gone. I love Charles.

[Callie Metz]

He didn't really have a personality.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He was sweet. Charles had a personality. He was so good. Yeah. He was so funny and just sweet.

[Callie Metz]

Well, then Jack was actually funnier.

[Cesar Flickerman]

The one. No, no.

[Callie Metz]

He jumps in the pool, Uncle.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. Like, that's that vibe, just being loud and stuff like that. I was like, I guess he cooked.

[Callie Metz]

But he was living his life. He knew. He. I feel he knew he wasn't going to get Picked.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, he probably just wants. I think they all go on with, like, the hope they can be the next bachelor to get to pick the women or something. Yeah, I suppose, but.

[Callie Metz]

But he was a little obnoxious, but.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't think Pascal won. I don't think he would. I think he's just, like, good looking. He wears Aramis belts. Like, I think he's good, but I don't think he's gonna win because she.

[Callie Metz]

Said she didn't think he was. But, you know, it's all about the editing again. I'm sorry. But maybe they're. They're trying to figure out that I love it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, the finale airs next week on abc, so check it out.

[Callie Metz]

No, it's not.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, it's the next. It's the finale.

[Callie Metz]

I thought they had their suites yet.

[Cesar Flickerman]

They're. What's she. Yeah. No suites.

[Callie Metz]

Yes. No beds.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No beds.

[Callie Metz]

There's a difference.

[Cesar Flickerman]

They're gonna get on the floor.

[Callie Metz]

There's no. No, she's just good. The girl's gonna meet to talk and eat, and then she's sending them out. They're not even staying overnight.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's weird. You can stay the night without having sex. You can just, like, hang out for the night. That's so weird.

[Callie Metz]

Can man do that?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Then it's not even dating. Then you're not even dating. If you don't want to spend the night with someone, then you're not gonna want to, like, date and marry someone. Get lucky, right?

[Callie Metz]

Is that what they do on the regular Bachelor?

[Cesar Flickerman]

They don't say what they do, but you can just stay the night with someone. You don't have to have sex with somebody.

[Callie Metz]

Right.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think that's part of dating, isn't it? Is seeing if you want to spend every day together.

[Callie Metz]

Being a good snuggle is really important.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, exactly. A good snuggle is very important.

[Callie Metz]

Maybe men can't snuggle. I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, I think they can. I think they're able to. Okay.

[Callie Metz]

I don't think Chuck can, but. Okay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, he's. He is a lot, but I. I do like a lot.

[Callie Metz]

And I don't know if she'd want to. I know she wants a long distance, and I think she said at one point Pascal would be really fun because.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, because he does. But I do think they plan the jets for him. I mean, I don't think he has his own jet or anything.

[Callie Metz]

You know, and they had the designer clothes there for him and.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, the dates are kind of uneven sometimes. It's like, okay, well, I'd rather do that than yes.

[Callie Metz]

You know, because, well, that one guy get a horseback ride.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was his thing. You know that.

[Callie Metz]

To Vegas. That's not fair.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, that's true. I don't know. I think. Okay, so there's one more episode left, and then I think. I think she might be on Dance with the Stars next season. They love a bachelor on There she is, probably. Oh, I feel like they always do. But Gary really did get the chef. You never hear anything about, like, woman he picked.

[Callie Metz]

No, I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

They're gonna. They're done. They're gone for. Yeah. Anyways, Golden Bachelor, let me know if. No, you're not done yet. I was just saying, if you want me.

[Callie Metz]

I didn't hear the music. No, I'm listening.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love. That's a good Hot Topic. I love. My mom is queen of Hot Topics. Every day, she sends me Hot Topics. Like, every single day. Even if we're not filming Hot Topics, she sends me Hot Topics. And it's great, and I love it. And so yours are always like. But yours are always sad. My mom will always send me when someone dies. She's like, this person died. I was like, I don't know what the Hot Topic, but it's a celebrity.

[Callie Metz]

That, you know, I mean, it's sad.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's always sad. But yesterday you sent me a really random one. Someone who was in, like, young Frankenstein like, 40 years ago and make it sad, But I was like, oh, my. I can't talk about this like a Hot Topic. But it was sad. Oh, thank you for it.

[Callie Metz]

But you loved. Didn't you love Young Frankenstein?

[Cesar Flickerman]

I did love Young Frankenstein. Yeah. I appreciate it.

[Callie Metz]

And she wasn't friends, but you never watch Friends, so.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, she was in Friends.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah, she was Phoebe's mom.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, really?

[Callie Metz]

Terry. Terry Gar.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, did you guys watch her? I mean, it's sad, but it's always. It's always like a death or. My mom gives me a lot of updates on Kanye west, too, which we never house.

[Callie Metz]

Can you believe it? In Beverly Hills and poor neighbors. Oh, my goodness. If it ends up like that Malibu house. He gutted it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's all cement.

[Moses Hacmon]

Come on.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Who does that? I. You know, my mom's, like, the biggest Kanye fan slash hater. She knows everything he's doing, but also is like, oh, those poor neighbors. All right. I don't know. That was always an update on Kanye west when my mom was like, he's.

[Callie Metz]

In the news all the time.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I love the Kanye Update.

[Callie Metz]

But what we go. You go back and forth with me and you'll send me stuff and then you'll say, oh, I already knew that. Or no, well, I already have to do one.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So there will be stuff where like, oh, we did talk about that on Hot Topics. But I love all of it. Yeah. You always have me like newsreels at like 5am it's just like a ton of like, Facebook news and I love it.

[Callie Metz]

Well, I know you're up because I'll check Instagram and. Well, there you are at the top of the circle.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You post early. I love early posts on there.

[Callie Metz]

She's up.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I always get up around like 5:30. It's always a good time. I like to see when you're up to. I like the news, honestly, I love the news updates because it's like, there's my mom doing.

[Callie Metz]

Like you said, it's been pretty sparse lately.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, I feel like that's good. No drama is good drama. I feel for the most part, I feel like, oh, really?

[Callie Metz]

Then you don't have a show. Okay, I think that is true.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Do you follow any of the social media News, like YouTube, Tik Tok? Do you know any of that? The updates on those, Any drama.

[Callie Metz]

Like Cat? I do go on Instagram every once in a while. X. And I see Oscar's got his own. What is you got a Trish Crave. And now it's Oscar Crave.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, Oscar Crave.

[Callie Metz]

So.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So you go on Twitter.

[Callie Metz]

I don't. I don't. Like, I was off Twitter for many years and then I came back on because I wanted to see what you're doing, and then I just don't like it. I don't usually check it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

And Tik Toks. Okay. Get a kick out of the people on Live.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, you love the lives. You love live. You love a Tik Tok Live. Do you see Jeffrey on there?

[Callie Metz]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Callie Metz]

And I see the guy who does that, the gum chewer. And then, yeah, everybody's on Live.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

And some people just sit there. Do them older people. Do you see that older man? He's like doing the same thing every time.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, I could do that. Okay.

[Callie Metz]

But yeah, they gotta have time to be on that for live.

[Cesar Flickerman]

They have the time, that's for sure. Yeah, they have. Yeah. But you were on it a couple times and now you're not a TikTok library.

[Callie Metz]

Yeah, I know Kelly's trying to get me to be a gamer, but it's gotta be an easy game.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Which game have you tried to play.

[Callie Metz]

What did you have me play?

[Moses Hacmon]

Five nights at Freddy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But she's like, that's. It wasn't fair.

[Moses Hacmon]

She said, it's not scary. I'm like, well, that's because you're in the daylight and you don't have headphones.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God. Did you play it? Cause me and Oscar couldn't figure it out. We couldn't figure it out for like an hour. Did you play it?

[Callie Metz]

I tried. I just didn't get it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Did she get anywhere?

[Moses Hacmon]

You don't go anywhere in Security. You just have to play Security every day online.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We were walking everywhere.

[Moses Hacmon]

We played a few different ones, but I just wanna do it for the content.

[Cesar Flickerman]

How did you feel, mom playing? I want to. Oh, that's fun. You show the Mario.

[Callie Metz]

Didn't somebody say Mario's coming out? I could do Mario. I was really good at Mario. Nintendo or.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God, Atari. So many gamers here. Wow. We can do a whole gaming Patreon just without you. Yeah, I would love that. They're in a game today. Go on. Because honestly, that's. It's more entertaining because when we play like, Fortnite, like, I just couldn't even do anything and pick up a gun or anything. I just didn't know how to do it.

[Callie Metz]

So, yeah, I don't know if I could do the shooting thing. That's why I didn't watch Hunger Games. Cause I actually thought it was real.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like. Oh.

[Callie Metz]

Oscar laughs But Oscar, listen to this.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I think. Oscar. Oh, my God. You okay?

[Callie Metz]

Oscar, back there.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God.

[Callie Metz]

Okay, but I'm gonna tell you why, Oscar. Okay, I swear, like, maybe 40 years ago, maybe 30 years ago, there was a real TV show where people went on this island and you had to go and seek these people and shoot them.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I swear that was not a real show.

[Callie Metz]

I'm going to look, Google it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Callie Metz]

And then they didn't do it because people didn't want to do it. You know, they got there and they.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Told me.

[Callie Metz]

Oscar, fact check.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That no one is a fact checker.

[Callie Metz]

Well, maybe it was fake. That was the first Hunger Games. I don't know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But okay, I think that was definitely fake.

[Callie Metz]

Okay, you might want to edit all that.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Jimmy. Always getting instructed on the edit.

[Callie Metz]

I'm gonna Google that when I get home, though.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You can find it. Send it over. Okay.

[Callie Metz]

Should have been sooner there, Moses. All right, everyone.

[Cesar Flickerman]

My mom. All right, you guys. Now for my co host with the most, the one and only Cesar Flickerman with the gray hair. Gray browns, gray hair.

[Oscar]

Thank You. Thank you. Well, it sounds serious.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Flick this, man, any day. You look great. Hi. Hello.

[Oscar]

Thank you. Oh, she's here. Okay, everyone's here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, we're coming back. Okay, we're coming back. Okay.

[Oscar]

Okay. Well, it's time to get serious. Should we do the intro and start the actual games?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, let the games begin.

[Oscar]

I have here. Here $100. So we're going to have a costume competition.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I feel like Oscar should be here because you're going to repeat all this again.

[Oscar]

We'll tell him.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Is this your accent?

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Oscar changed out of his accent.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, no, I just.

[Oscar]

You can still. No, no. But you remember. Remember what you guys wore? You can see.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I don't know if that counts. I feel like you should be disqualified.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

If you took out your outfit.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You stayed in this the whole time? Since 10am 10am it's the first time I'm on camera. Yeah.

[Oscar]

And you will write the name of the person and not us. So from the five contestants, the five guests. Okay. You will write the name, you will put it in the bucket.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Be based on costume interview. Not like it can be everything. Like, who gave their all. Who did you enjoy the most? I don't know. That sounds kind of mean, but just whatever this is, it most came up with this competition idea, by the way. I thought maybe it's not a little mean.

[Oscar]

Okay, you don't want a hundred dollars?

[Cesar Flickerman]

No. No. $9 an hour.

[Oscar]

10 hours of work.

[Cesar Flickerman]

The upgrade. The upgrade.

[Oscar]

So when Oscar come back, we'll do a vote. We'll do a vote. You guys will put a note in our Mickey Mouse Halloween bucket and we'll announce the winner.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yay.

[Oscar]

What is it? 127.

[Cesar Flickerman]

127 episode of the one and only Just Trish Hunger Games. We are here. This is a fun one today. How are you feeling?

[Oscar]

Good. It was fun. I mean, it's really fun. It's like 30 minutes each person.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And it feels like. It does feel like a game. It feels kind of like this, like, marathon or whatever.

[Oscar]

It feels like a marathon. Call in.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We think about that woman who we talked about last Hot Topics, who had the hundred guys and filmed it. I was like, no, I know, but it feels kind of like that. Like, it's like just quick. There's like a timer for it. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

And it's next episode.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We have a thousand people, thousand interviews in one day. So you're Caesar Flickerman today. What? What? I always thought you were more of a Hamish, but you're like, I want to Be Caesar, Which I love, but also. Why?

[Oscar]

Because I looked at his pictures and.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He'S like, you like the teeth? You liked it. You liked him in the movie?

[Oscar]

No, not so much. But I was just like, okay, who will I actually look like?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Actually, you think you look more like the. What's Caesar? Caesar Flickerman? Yeah. Then Hamish, definitely. Wow. I thought more Haymitch, but okay. I love it so much.

[Oscar]

Probably if we check our ancestry, we have more common than Check it out.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Check out the ancestry. I love it.

[Oscar]

Fact checkers.

[Cesar Flickerman]

You went. You went full on Caesar. Well, we are the host of the Hunger Games, so it's kind of, like, fitting to be here today. Did you bring. I guess we could do interview. But you've had two interviews now on Jester. Should we do a Hot Topic?

[Oscar]

Mine was more favorite Halloweens.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, you don't have a Hot Topic.

[Oscar]

I have favorite Halloween stories.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. What's your. Wait. How you didn't even celebrate Halloween as a kid?

[Oscar]

No. I didn't tell you which one is my favorite Halloween. Was it supposed to be a kid? Oh, no, I guess not.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I guess not. Moses did not celebrate Halloween growing up, so never dressed up.

[Oscar]

No, it's not here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, but your birthday falls. We had your birthday yesterday. We were on a boat, which was wonderful. It was great. And so your boat. Your boat, your holiday.

[Oscar]

You're already walking into some of my favorites. So my first favorite one.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Sorry.

[Oscar]

My first favorite one is us in Disneyland the first time.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yeah, we did. We went trick or treat in Disneyland in 2021.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that was really fun because, I mean, not only going to Disneyland, but also the special, like, Halloween night that they have there. And that was really fun.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And you never trick or treated before that?

[Oscar]

No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Or.

[Oscar]

I mean, yeah. And also, it's kind of like, I think our first time alone in Disneyland.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Our first time, Al. Yeah, our first time. Yeah. Yeah, it was our first time alone. And, like, you never trick or treated with someone's kids or anything like that. You. And never trick or treat as a kid, so.

[Oscar]

No, not really. No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So that was your first time going up and being like, trick or treat.

[Oscar]

Getting candy and we stayed at a hotel and Disney. It was just fun.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, that was a really good experience. That was really fun. It's really expensive, though. That's why we waited three years to go again. That's so expensive. Even this one, I'm like, okay, we'll wait a couple more years.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And also for Malibu to be old enough and she's like, I mean, at 2, she's like a 3 year old. So we're like, let's go.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was, she enjoyed it. But the scary part, the, the parade was a little scary for her.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but it's normal. I mean it was, it was mainly loud, I think.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But she was scared of all the rides, like Peter Pan and all those.

[Oscar]

She was like, ah, only the bad parts. You know, the parts that are like scary. She was scared, which is natural, but she loved it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And then we went again this year for Halloween.

[Oscar]

So then the second most favorite is that one going again with Malibu, which is a completely different because I didn't experience. Experience it as a kid. So now with her you get to really experience it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Do the trick or treat and her.

[Oscar]

Meeting the characters and that was just amazing, like, because I didn't even know how she'll react, you know, seeing Mickey Mouse. She loves Donald Duck and his wife Daisy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Daisy, yeah. Did you know the names of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse before You never knew?

[Oscar]

Definitely not Daisy. Duck and wow. You know, you know Donald Duck? Yes.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What about the cow? Do you know the cow's name?

[Oscar]

I didn't, but now I know.

[Cesar Flickerman]

What is it?

[Oscar]

Is it. I'm not sure. Is it Clar Bell?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Oscar]

At the beginning I thought it was cowbell or I wasn't sure what it was or cowbell. Cuz she says it. I love her.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Bell. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh my God. Those are your favorite Halloween memories. Wow.

[Oscar]

So wait, but there's. And one more. So. Yeah, it's three in a row. So the first one. There's one in between. That's my favorite. When we. I was watching them in the Mandalorian with Malibu as a baby and then we dressed up as she was Baby Yoda.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was her first holiday. Yes. She was like one month old and you weren't taking her.

[Oscar]

That was my favorite because watch like I watched all the Mandalorian with her. Kind of like. And it was perfect.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She loves it now too. You guys were watching it the other day.

[Oscar]

Yeah, we just went there today and she sees it like Baby Yoda.

[Callie Metz]

She loves.

[Cesar Flickerman]

She does look like baby Yoda too. So that would make you the Mandalorian, Patrick Pass himself. Thoughts on Sexiest Man Alive?

[Oscar]

I hope he wins.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really? Over Jonathan Bailey. Babe, I'm not into that. What's our household? This is a Jonathan Bailey household.

[Oscar]

No, but this way we have 100%. You know, you're fully invested in him, Pascal. So we win.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, I agree. You like him for sexiest man Alive. Who would you choose the sexiest man alive. Not them two.

[Oscar]

I'm debating you as Zac Efron or you as Gerard Way. Probably Zac Efron.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I'll take it. Thank you so much. Oh, Halloween memories. That's crazy. So all your favorite Halloween memories are since you met me? That's a good answer.

[Oscar]

I mean, it's crazy because we have, like, I don't know, a hundred cosplays and images. Because somebody just posted all of those and I was like, wait, we only be together for like, four or five. Halloween.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, technically, five Halloweens.

[Oscar]

Surprise. Like Halloween year round.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We're always, always in cosplay. Never stop with it. Yeah, I guess your favorite. You didn't have on the list the Halloween party I threw you for your birthday, what, three years ago.

[Moses Hacmon]

Pasta Gate.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Pasta Gate. Where the pasta, the truffle pasta went missing. It was so sad. We spent so much money on the catering and the pasta was nowhere to be found.

[Oscar]

The food was in the fridge the next morning.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, it was not there.

[Oscar]

What?

[Cesar Flickerman]

They told Moses the price of the party. She was like, why would you spend that much? And I was like, I don't know. I wanted to make it special.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but it was a good party because we. That was the first time all of your friends and all of my friends met. Because we wanted them all to meet before the wedding. Yeah, because we met in quarantine, so nobody met anyone anywhere. So, yeah, it was like the first time to meet everyone.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was a good party then. So overall it was good. Minused the pasta that we had.

[Oscar]

I didn't care about that much.

[Cesar Flickerman]

But, yeah, Kelly did. Kelly's like, pasta gate over there. It was good. We were at Corpse Bride that year. That was very. Did you know who we were?

[Oscar]

Yeah, like, I knew the movie, but not fully. I think we watched.

[Cesar Flickerman]

How many of the cosplays do you know that we do that? You're familiar.

[Oscar]

Well, I haven't watched Wicked yet because it's not even out.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And I played.

[Oscar]

I've played and sang most of it by now.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, so now when you watch the movie, you'll be like, I know this.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's me.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, that is true. Actually was like, can we wait on the Wicked until I see it? I was like, no, we have to do it now for the Halloween.

[Oscar]

No, it's more like, I wish I saw it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like you didn't see A League of Their Own? You haven't seen that one?

[Oscar]

No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And then I didn't see. You saw Hunger Games. Not Catching Fire. We watched it first time together.

[Oscar]

We try to watch it before we do it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, that's kind of hard. We haven't had any TV time solo in the past like two weeks.

[Oscar]

We've been going nonstop every day.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And if we're not going, you're going. It's like photo shoots, magazines, billboards, New York.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Fucked and busy. That's how it was. I did. Yeah. That is actually last week was that. It literally was like Playboy, Fashion Nova, Petra Collins, like then your birthday. It was kind of that. Actually. I did feel very busy. Booked and busy. Yeah.

[Oscar]

And it's why it's fun. This is the time.

[Cesar Flickerman]

That's what I say. I'm like, you know, we always say it's a flow. And I'm like, right now it's like a really good high. And now in November, now that Halloween's passed, now we have to start the Trishmas rehearsals and stuff like that. I have like.

[Oscar]

Yeah. If you thought Halloween was on something.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Christmas is crazy.

[Oscar]

Much bigger.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Especially because it's like now we're in New York, San Diego and Thousand Oaks. So it's going to be.

[Oscar]

Will be fun. I mean, we love traveling.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Nonstop. So come see us Christmas live. Do you know what's your favorite Christmas song? You don't celebrate Christmas. Or do you? Did you growing up?

[Oscar]

No, but when I moved here. When I moved here growing up, we did not have Christmas. We were jealous of it. You know, I think everyone around the world is kind of jealous of the idea of the tree and the gifts and it looks cozy.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So. So we all aspire to celebrate Christmas.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

But my favorite. I don't know. When I moved here, my favorite song was always Feliz Navidad.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really?

[Oscar]

It's like Feliz Navidad.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Feliz Navidad. Do you know it? Okay, Oscar coming through with Spanish. Never ever.

[Moses Hacmon]

What is it say?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Sing it one more time. Is that right? What's it mean?

[Oscar]

I want to miss you Merry Christmas.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I want to wish you a merry Christmas I want to wish you a merry Christmas from the bottom of my heart.

[Oscar]

How can you not love that song?

[Cesar Flickerman]

That was a good one. What's the one you hate? Cal you remember to hate the song?

[Oscar]

Poor.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Simply.

[Oscar]

Oh, Paul. Paul McCartney. Right.

[Cesar Flickerman]

He loved that song. I hate that song. Oh, you hate it too.

[Oscar]

I don't love it, but I don't. I think you just get when. When the songs. When. When. I think when November starts. We have a playlist of all the Christmas songs. That's all we play. In the car.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So I think that song came up, and we're, like, driving. I think that's what it was. But we literally play in the car. That's the only thing we play. And the oldest Christmas songs we can find will play because I remember your dad was in the car with us, and he was like, how do you know these songs?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, yeah. He's always shocked. It's like. It's a popular Christmas song. I don't know what to say.

[Oscar]

I just have a playlist of all the. All these in.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. Christmas is coming upon us now. We're in the Christmas spirit. So you missed it. Yeah. When you were gone, we announced our contest.

[Oscar]

We're gonna pass. You're gonna write the name, put in the bucket, and then I'll come back here and announce the winner on each paper. I'll give each one best costume.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I guess.

[Oscar]

Guess she's opening it up to more costume guest stories because it's not fair.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because you all have the same costume. So, like, yeah, you could. If there's a tie, you can split the money. So did you show the prize to Oscar? Show the prize.

[Oscar]

So the prize sent us by Mr.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

Beast.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yay. The hundred dollars.

[Oscar]

We want to pass it on.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Mr. Beast is sponsoring our Halloween costume.

[Oscar]

But you can't vote for us.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Only the five of you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Because clearly I would win. I did offer to help everyone, and I will say I was very surprised for the people who were just like, I want to do my own. Like, Jimmy's like, I'm fine. Katniss was fine. Even Isaiah was like, I got it. So I was actually, like, very impressed when people got it all together. So. Well, no, not Sam dragging. No. First of all, I do think you look the fierce. But I wanted to help everybody, but everyone's like, we got it. So anyways, no, I love it. I love to control, like, a situation. Like, I love having everyone glam everyone thing. But I love when people do their own stuff too. I think it's very cool, and it shows the effort and the initiative.

[Moses Hacmon]

So there was.

[Cesar Flickerman]

All right, let's pass it out.

[Oscar]

So one second. I'll be right back here.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. All right, you guys. So as we take this break, Trishmas Live is coming soon. Shout out, by the way, to the Just Trish crew over there. That's actually amazing. It's actually amazing how many people we do see all the time. To help make this work, I want to do a little Christmas party for all of us. I think it'd be fun because we never hang out. I never hang out with anyone. But I would like to hang out with you guys outside of work youk guys catch Trishmas live December 5th, December 10th and December 15th. Also go to patreon.com just trish to see behind the scenes of the tour. These are great characters, though. I mean, Hunger Games has some cool characters. Oh, look at Pony Wow. Huh? Next Halloween. No, does next to dress up next week. Next week. What? We're dressing up. It's hard. Group costumes are hard. This was a good one. This was a good group costume. Let us know what we should be if you guys know. If you guys can think of a costume for seven people, let us know. Well, the dwarves.

[Oscar]

The seven dwarves.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

I was gonna say when Rachel Zackler.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Comes on, we'll all be a dwarf. Wait. We should show it so we don't look like we're cheating. Oh, wow.

[Callie Metz]

First vote.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Lena. Lena as Meng. Wow. All right, next vote is Callie.

[Callie Metz]

Whoa.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I guess we should have voted too, huh? We can. Okay. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just make us vote for each other.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Second one. Lena. Oh, my gosh. I think Lena's playing with the Megs.

[Callie Metz]

It must have been because I thought they were.

[Isaiah Mays]

Oh, my God.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Kelly.

[Oscar]

We might. We might have to vote. We might have to vote.

[Cesar Flickerman]

We might have to be the tiebreaker. That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Four fold.

[Isaiah Mays]

Who folded their sports on?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah. That's wild. Whoever did this, Isaiah did it. Let's see.

[Oscar]

Okay. We got Jimmy with awards.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yay. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Was that all the votes?

[Oscar]

Five votes.

[Isaiah Mays]

You guys really written yours down.

[Oscar]

So I guess. I mean, we said we had the possibility of splitting it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I liked. I liked. I would have said Isaiah because you look most like the character. Or Katniss because he had his own props. You know, I feel like. But you know what? I love it. I guess I can't vote for my own family. I don't want to be biased, but.

[Oscar]

Still, if you vote for them.

[Cesar Flickerman]

And then Peeta boost the Harris. So, I mean, but everyone was great. I mean, Meg took the character that nobody wanted.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Callie Metz]

Rich get money.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Well, you are the winner. Is she the winner? You're the winner, so you can. You can have that moment.

[Oscar]

Kelly and Lena, you guys are the house. Will. Your household won. I think the house of the household.

[Moses Hacmon]

As Isaiah was saying, once we get on to the other side of the Capitol, we're gonna split it. We're gonna be the.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, I love that. Should we just do a little split now? Just. Just hand out ones to people.

[Oscar]

Can I Just make it rain. And then you have to dance.

[Isaiah Mays]

And we'll play.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Do a little division. Yeah. Just randomly. Wow. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Why are we doing a dollar at a time? That's gonna take forever.

[Jimmy Wetzel]

This is what dreams are made of.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Just count a few. Wait, no. What are we. Okay, well, this is. Yes. Thank you guys for competing today. This has been so great.

[Oscar]

This is your. This is your guest money.

[Cesar Flickerman]

All right. To wrap it up. It does feel like the end of the year sort of thing.

[Oscar]

I was thinking that earlier.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Right.

[Oscar]

We're gonna start with a new season maybe. I mean, Halloween is probably our new year type.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, is it a new season for this?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Oscar]

After this, we'll come. Come back completely new. Same set time, everything, but completely new. Completely new mindset.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yes.

[Oscar]

New cosplays.

[Cesar Flickerman]

This was so much fun, actually. Yes. Did you guys get some? Yeah. Yes. Oh, I'm splitting it up over there. I love that.

[Oscar]

To go to Vegas, we need to all go.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Go buy lotto tickets. Well, we can't promote gambling, but, you know, we could go do something. Yes. Tip of Drag Queen. You're the MVP of the Halloween season. I will say everyone has said that on TikTok. Like, the way that Moses just goes along with all these Bridgerton and wicked and without knowing.

[Oscar]

I mean, it always feels like it's our wedding photo shoot, right?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Like a little engagement shoot or something. And you admitted by shaving. I was talking to J about this earlier. He's like, I thought about shaving, but I was like, no, it's gonna take forever to grow back. And I said, mo's the same way. He doesn't like to shave.

[Oscar]

But you did shave this morning. It was hectic. I jumped into the shower, I got out, and suddenly I realized I didn't shave.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Did you have a beard yesterday?

[Oscar]

It was long.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really?

[Oscar]

I mean, it not shaved, but, you know, so I jumped back in. Shaved, Jumped back out.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my gosh.

[Oscar]

Because I was like, I can't do it too. You'll be so sad if I show up with, like, a scruffy face with all this.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I mean, it does look really good. And the fact that you committed to a wig, which you also don't love wigs. And people really love the wig commitment, too. So you are the envelope.

[Oscar]

I'd rather long hair wig than the short.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I would have voted you as the winner of the costume contest. I do think that you. I know you were.

[Oscar]

I would have voted you.

[Cesar Flickerman]

So wasn't eligible. But you were. You do people like when you dress up? And I think that's the everything, honestly. So maybe this will be your favorite Halloween memory in the future. The Gestures podcast.

[Oscar]

I was gonna add them to it.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, it was really fun and I really do appreciate everyone being here because it was. It was cool. There is so many people that make it work. I feel like I'm winning an award right now, but I feel like we won the best podcast or something.

[Oscar]

Well, I think we did.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, I think so, too. It's really fun. I love doing it. I love that it's, like, here in our house and very cool, so.

[Oscar]

And all the people that work with us, we love them. We enjoy spending time together. We. Everyone is creative and adds to the show, you know?

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God, so much.

[Oscar]

Nobody feels like it's work. It's.

[Cesar Flickerman]

It's really fun and we love it. And we love you guys. And Christmas is coming. Well, Thanksgiving, but no one cares about that. Christmas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Christmas is upon us.

[Oscar]

Trisha is not performing in Thanksgiving, so you can skip that straight to Christmas.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, no, none of that. But we love you guys. And no other Hot Topics. No other. Anything else?

[Oscar]

I don't know. I think this is the peak of the show. Just leave it at the top.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay.

[Oscar]

I mean, if you want four more minutes, but.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay. What else?

[Oscar]

Any other song requests? Maybe one of your Christmas songs.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Okay, go. Well, Pink Christmas comes out. It's leaked now on our Patreon. Yes. Thanks, Jimmy, for doing the lyrics.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, the Christmas. The season to be hot.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I can't believe you guys all stayed. That's okay. On the call, she. I said, you don't have to stay a few, but it's nice if you do. And you guys all stayed. So honestly, it's amazing. We'll do Halloween bonuses, like Christmas bonuses. We'll do a Halloween bonus.

[Isaiah Mays]

Just all good chance to ride the Christmas tree with the snow globe.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Oh, my God, that would be so fun. Honestly, that would be such a slay. Open up your Christmas cards this year. Last year, one of my hairstylists threw out his check because he got the Christmas card and threw it out. Yeah. And it had a bonus in there. And I was like, did you ever get your bonus? You never cashed it. He's like, oh, no, I threw it out on accident. I was like, okay, random. So don't throw out the Christmas cards.

[Oscar]

No.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Who's not coming to Trishmas over there? I know, right? You coming, Trishmas? You coming, Trishmas? Trishmas. Yes. Let's go. Let's do it. Trishmas Live. It's my concert. Are you gonna come? You should come. I always feel bad. I never want to ask people to, like, film for me, like photography. But if you want to come, take pictures. Is it, I don't know, making life.

[Isaiah Mays]

This is real life for. I mean, it's like. It's show for everyone who goes to the show.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Yeah, that's true.

[Isaiah Mays]

I feel like for this group, it's real.

[Cesar Flickerman]

I should have had you for my wedding. We got ripped off by our wedding for talking. Honestly.

[Isaiah Mays]

I'll go look. I probably have some.

[Cesar Flickerman]

Really? Man, I really wish we would have had you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you have an opening act for Trishmas?

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, not at the moment. Why? No errors? Not yet. I should maybe, but maybe Malibu Barbie. Maybe Malibu Barbie. Scotty Sire, if he's available. Oh, we didn't talk about that. But I know it's the end of the episode, but we should just. We didn't have a Zane and Heath mentioned. Zane and Heath.

[Isaiah Mays]

Should I mention it or.

[Cesar Flickerman]

No, it's like shade. Okay. Patreon posted the billboard. Shout out. Patreon. Love you so much. I was so excited to see it. I just looked at my slide because that's what I was tagged in. So I was like, wow, I'm tagged in this. This is so cool. And then everyone. I was looking at the comments. Cause shout out. Just Trish, fam. You guys all went and, like, spammed the comments with pink hearts and disco balls that were here for Trish and loved it. I didn't even realize someone's like, oh, I don't know who the first one is. And I was like, who's in the first slide? I didn't look. And it was. It was Zane and Heath. Gotta love them. Unfiltered. Getting that promo on Patreon. I kind of live for that, you know. Well, that's the shout out. Go check out the Patreon billboard. It's in Times Square right now. Go to patreon.com justtrish Go follow everybody. We'll put all their handles. You can do like a little cast list. You could do like, you know, starring all these people. Starring is the beginning. We could do that. All right, love you guys so much. Thanks for watching. Restock of hoodies next week. Tickets are on sale now for Trishmas Live. Ticketmaster.com we love you and we'll see you in the next one. Bye. Good job, everybody.