JoJo Siwa Sparks Engagement Rumors + Finally Meeting Hasan Piker...

Summary

Just Trish Podcast — January 20, 2026

Episode: JoJo Siwa Sparks Engagement Rumors + Finally Meeting Hasan Piker...

Hosts: Trisha Paytas
Co-hosts: Oscar Gracey, Moses
Main Topics: JoJo Siwa engagement rumors, Trisha’s thoughts on Jason Momoa’s new relationship, SNL Stranger Things controversy, pop culture recaps, nightclub stories, parasocial fandoms, and more.

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of Just Trish is a high-energy, laugh-filled dive into the latest pop culture news, social media trends, and personal anecdotes from the hosts. The central themes include rumors about JoJo Siwa’s engagement, Trisha’s impassioned critique of Jason Momoa’s public statements about new love, party reports (finally meeting Hasan Piker), and controversial SNL jokes. The hosts touch on everything from diet trends to celebrity birthday parties, fandom controversies, relationship dynamics, and their own upcoming appearances.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Jason Momoa’s “Love of My Life” Comment

• Timestamp: 00:21, 39:14–41:20

• Summary: The hosts roast Jason Momoa for declaring his new girlfriend “the love of my life” after separating from Lisa Bonet. Trisha, a self-proclaimed Momoa superfan, finds this disrespectful to long relationships and their children. Moses takes a "guy’s perspective" but agrees the public statement crosses a line.

  Notable Quote (Trisha, 39:37):
  "What do you mean you're gonna say the girlfriend you've been with for a year and a half is the love of your life after you just ended a 20 year relationship with Lisa Bonet, who you said you saw on TV and you would do anything to marry... Like, who could be hotter than her? Had two kids with her, the whole nine, and then meets, you know, probably a very lovely girl... But on the red carpet, you're gonna be like, this is the love of my life?"

  • The hosts discuss celebrity breakups, new relationships, being "the next girlfriend after a legend," and how public comments affect exes and family.
  • They compare it to other famous Hollywood dynamics (Pamela Anderson, Brittany Furlan, Avril Lavigne, etc.).
  • Oscar suggests Momoa is still in the “honeymoon phase” and possibly love-bombing.

2. Oscar’s Weekend: Ted Nivison’s Party & Meeting Hasan Piker

• Timestamp: 12:51–20:16

• Summary: Oscar recaps attending Ted Nivison’s 28th birthday at No Vacancy. He didn’t get to talk to Ted or Hasan Piker but recounts standing near Hasan, “taking a whiff, breathing it in." He describes the gay group at the largely straight party, being recognized for “leaving the house,” and the group’s outing to the Abbey (where Oscar had a “WeHo hangover”). Also includes a funny discussion about phone thefts at gay bars and roofie paranoia.

  Notable Quote (Oscar, 14:37):
  "I kind of just stood next to them and like, soaked it in. I was like, wow, I'm like, next to Hasan right now. So I... was taking a whiff. I was breathing it in.”

• The discussion morphs into night-out culture in West Hollywood, changing etiquette (kissing vs. hugging), and drinks.

3. SNL Stranger Things Controversy

• Timestamp: 31:21–37:16

• Summary: The hosts break down backlash to Finn Wolfhard’s monologue joke equating the Demogorgon to a vagina and the Sex and the City spoof referencing Max’s coma. Moses reads tweets calling out supposed misogyny; Trisha and Oscar are largely unfazed, viewing SNL as unserious parody, but acknowledge fans' emotional investment in characters.

  Notable Quote (Moses, 32:27):
  "He said, 'My voice changed on camera. My first kiss was on camera... The first time I learned what a woman looked like down there was on camera as well.' And then it flashed to the Demogorgon..."

  Notable Quote (Trisha, 33:16): "I really didn't think... Like, it looked like a vagina... Like, it's just open and wet and white and you're just like, that looks like one to me."

• They examine satire, fandom overprotectiveness, and shifting lines of offense.

• The group discusses parasocial fandom tendencies, referencing past controversies and their own critiques.

4. JoJo Siwa Engagement & AI Wedding Photos

• Timestamp: 143:36–147:15

• Summary: JoJo Siwa sparked engagement rumors by posting AI-generated bridal photos captioned "call me a wife." Moses reveals JoJo stated she’d wait no more than 7 years for a proposal, surprising given her usual fast-paced relationships.

  Notable Quote (Moses, 143:54): "She was posting photos of herself as a bride wearing a wedding dress, wearing a glittery statement necklace and earrings. And she wrote over the image, 'call me a wife.'"

  • Trisha compares the proposal dynamic to her own, lamenting societal pushback on women proposing.
  • The parallel to Trisha’s own big, quick love stories is noted—JoJo “copying her nachos.”

5. Pop Culture & Internet Moments

• Hot Topics Recap:
  • Chinese Baddie Lifestyle: Oscar shares his new routine of boiled apple/goji berry drinks for gut health and warm breakfasts, joining a “Chinese baddie” trend. (7:01–9:32)
  • Fan Fandom Outrage: Heated Rivalry fans attack actor Francois Arnaud for alleged relationship with another male cast member (calling him a "groomer" despite no evidence). Moses: "There's a lot of projection there ..." (77:12)
  • Harry Styles Return Announced: The group gets excited for Harry's new album and dissects his influence on the current pop male aesthetic. (52:13–55:18)
• GlamBot Disasters & JLo ‘Rudeness’ (60:12–67:47)
  • Review of red carpet GlamBot viral moments and JLo's reportedly icy behavior. The hosts debate industry etiquette and PR damage control, with Moses reading responses from others.
• Airlines Study: Big Pharma, Weight Loss & Skinny Conspiracies (106:05–109:48)
  • Moses shares a study linking projected airline fuel savings to a slimmer population from GLP-1 drugs. Panel jokes about “the conspiracy to keep us skinny,” airline economics, and diet culture.

6. Trisha’s Party & Industry Gossip

• Random Fun:
  • Trisha wears a Zoe Kravitz-inspired dress. Excitement for the upcoming WB Studio tour and live events at Netflix is a Joke Festival.
  • Debate over who would be the best recognizable brand sponsors (Crocs, Abercrombie, etc.), and how influential people sometimes get snubbed by brands they support.
  • Parasocial chat about celebrities, past casting near-misses (Blake Lively vs. Shane Lamas for Gossip Girl), and "roles I didn't get" watch.
  • Discussion of streamers, The Traitors, Dancing with the Stars, and the nature of reality TV fame.

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MEMORABLE MOMENTS & QUOTES

• Trisha’s take on Jason Momoa:
  (39:37) "I am a Jason Momoa apologist through and through... My son is Aquaman! Like, I love Jason Momoa, but like, no way, no way."

• Oscar’s club run-in:
  (14:37) "I kind of just stood next to them and like, soaked it in. I was like, wow, I'm like, next to Hasan right now.”

• SNL Controversies:
  (32:27) "And then it flashed to the Demogorgon."
  (33:16) "I really didn't think... it's just like open and wet and white and you're just like. That looks like one to me."

• On fandom toxicity:
  (78:00) "The fans have called Francois a groomer. A PDF file. That's crazy." — Moses
  (82:25) "Your fans can be, like, your biggest haters, which I think Ariana talked about this on a podcast..."

• JoJo Siwa proposal rumors:
  (143:54) "She was posting photos of herself as a bride... and wrote, 'call me a wife.'" — Moses
  (145:29) "She hasn't been married. Honestly, she is someone who would move quickly so quick." — Trisha

• On the GLP-1 airline conspiracy:
  (108:41) "So now my conspiracy is, they want us skinny, you guys... so they can continue to make money." — Moses

• Moses’s Harry Styles revelation:
  (52:13) "Harry Styles' album announcement, it reignited the hairy girl in me. I was like, wow, I'm so excited." — Moses

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SEGMENT TIMESTAMPS

• 00:21–02:50: Riffing on Jason Momoa’s “love of my life,” episode greetings, quick banter
• 07:01–09:32: Oscar’s “Chinese baddie” wellness routine discussion
• 12:51 – 20:16: Oscar’s birthday/club weekend; meeting (or not) Hasan Piker; WeHo nightlife
• 21:45 – 28:27: SNL Stranger Things jokes, fandom controversies
• 31:21 – 37:16: More on SNL, satire, boundaries; SNL and fan offense
• 39:14 – 41:20: Jason Momoa, relationship discourse
• 60:12 – 67:47: JLo’s GlamBot viral moment, etiquette
• 77:00 – 81:03: Heated Rivalry/parasocial fandom toxicity
• 106:05 – 109:48: Airlines, pharma, and skinny conspiracy
• 143:36 – 147:15: JoJo Siwa’s engagement rumors and relationship dynamics

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TONE & STYLE

True to the "Just Trish" brand, the episode is candid, chaotic, highly opinionated, and peppered with pop culture knowledge. Trisha and the co-hosts riff off each other, providing both comic relief and genuine insight into internet culture, celebrity dynamics, and fan psychology. The language is casual, fast-paced, and very online.

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EPISODE TAKEAWAYS

• Celebrities and the “love of my life” narrative: Public declarations can sting exes and fans; context and tact matter.
• Celebrity nightlife is both glamorous and surreal: Even internet celebrities feel awkward/parasocial at parties.
• Pop culture fans can be deeply protective to the point of toxicity. The line between parody, critique, and offense is fluid—and fandoms sometimes cross it.
• Modern relationships are complicated by fame, PR, and internet scrutiny.
• JoJo Siwa continues to spark speculation by blending real and AI-generated life events.
• Pop culture and internet trends move quickly—Trisha and crew deliver fast and furious commentary for every headline big and small.

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FOR LISTENERS WHO HAVEN'T TUNED IN

This episode is a whirlwind tour through the week’s most viral celebrity and internet news, spun through the irreverent, always-entertaining lens of Trisha Paytas and her co-hosts. Expect strong opinions, pop culture rabbit holes, and behind-the-scenes “industry tea”—with laughs guaranteed.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

Would you like fresh towels?

[Trisha Paytas]

It matters where you stay. Book [e-mail] Hilton for this day. What do you mean you're gonna say the girlfriend you've been with for a year and a half is the love of your life after you just ended a 20 year relationship with Lisa Monet, who you said you saw on TV and you would do anything to marry. And you're gonna marry that girl one day. And every chance you get, every interview, you're like, she's the goddess. She's Lisa Monet. Like, who could be hotter than her? Had two kids with her, the whole nine. And then meets, you know, probably a very lovely girl, happy for their new relationship. But on the red carpet, you're gonna be like, this is the love of my life. Her name is trish. She's got. Hello and welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. It is a beautiful Tuesday afternoon in January. It's like 70s out here. It's beautiful. They smell like onions. Moses has a hot topic. Oscar looks like he's going to direct a tram at Universal Studios. And we're here. We're back. You look great. I actually saw you. I was. I was going out as you were coming in and I saw. Yeah.

[Moses]

Oh, well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I would have gone out before. I was trying to get out before you so I could like run and come back quickly, but then I. My key was upstairs. I had to run all the way upstairs and I came down and then I went to go back up and I saw. Well, I was back. You didn't see me as back.

[Moses]

I didn't see you at all. I'm a little out of it, though. My God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Are you okay? Oh, from the weekend?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you do the task?

[Moses]

The task? Yeah. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I cannot wait to hear about it. Before we get into it, you guys. Patreon.com just. We do extended podcasts, we do bonus videos. Oscar did an interview with me. It was hard hitting questions.

[Moses]

Yes. I call it an introspective, jaw dropping, thought provoking interview with the Internet's most elusive Shantus Trisha Paytas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's a title.

[Moses]

Yeah, that's the title.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, you're such a.

[Oscar Gracie]

This is the picture.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the picture of the month.

[Moses]

That's. That's me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's me. The elusive.

[Moses]

That really sums it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that was what it was. Giving deer. Is that what you are? Like, who's someone who's good with words? A dinner, a dit, a dieter. You know when you go to, like, the plays and then you have someone come through with the script? A deater?

[Moses]

I have no idea. I don't know. I mean, to me it's just journalists. A who?

[Trisha Paytas]

A dramaturg. Like, you're good with words. You're just a journalist.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Period. You're just smart. Okay, well, it was a great interview regardless, you guys. In a couple weeks, we are going to be going on the WB VIP tour. I am so excited in anticipation the plan. Moses was really, really thinking hard about it. We were on. We go on our walks and we were talking about. I'm like, cannot wait. He's like, okay, so maybe I'll put a GoPro up there and we'll get the mic. I was like, how about I just vlog, like, does normal. He wants double camera. He's like, it's nothing. You just put the camera up. Camera up where? Camera up where?

[Oscar Gracie]

If you're. Isn't it the car? Like, you need a car.

[Moses]

The tram. But it's like a tram.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? So you're gonna just put it up on the tram. Quarter.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So the wide shot of all of us. Love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then we would have to have mics and then there's four of us. And how many mics can go into one iPhone? And then what if it messes up the sound? What if it only records half of us, not the other half of us?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, that's the thrill of the ride.

[Trisha Paytas]

Video. After all that. We just go for fun, which we love. We have that. Vote for me for your favorite Broadway debut at iHeartRadio Awards. And also you can get your tickets. I will be at the Netflix is a Joke Comedy Festival. May 5th. May 5th.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, it's. Sorry. It's not a joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not a joke.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's not a joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

May 5th at the Wilter. Wait, you love.

[Moses]

Like, are you doing stand up?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm interviewing one of Netflix hottest stars.

[Oscar Gracie]

Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

It is. It is that, but not me. All the festivals across la. All the. All the venues across LA will be hosting a week's worth of events with Netflix as a joke. You can go see people at all types of venues. But I will be May 5, 9:45pm at the. Well, turn. Netflix is a joke. Come. I think I'm interviewing. I am interviewing.

[Moses]

I'm.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know what I'm Doing? I'm interviewing Netflix biggest stars. We love Netflix. And get your tickets today there. The pre sale is tomorrow. They go on sale on Friday, January 23rd. It's going to be. It's going to be fun. It's going to be great.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's a beautiful venue.

[Trisha Paytas]

You love the Wilt Hurt. Hilary Duff has performed their Addison Rae. Now. Now. Interviewing, interviewing Netflix stars. All right, that's it. That's all my announcements. You have announcements to make. I feel like I make so many. I saw one comment one time that she never lets him make announcements. Your vlog. You did Twitch. Kind of out of order for you. It was on Thursday and not Sunday, right?

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. I live streamed Thursday up. It's up on YouTube. Yeah, I didn't live stream yesterday, but at some point this week, I'm sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so Ghost.

[Moses]

Yup.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar and whatever else you would like to promote, go for it. The pla. This is your platform too. What are we wearing? Did someone send you the hat today? Like, go ahead, give a shout out to.

[Moses]

No one sent me the ha. I literally have nothing else to announce or promote your Instagram.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar Gracie.

[Moses]

You got my handle wrong. But okay, what is it? It's just Oscar Gracie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Moses]

No dot?

[Trisha Paytas]

There's no dot. How about it on TikTok? Is there a dot? No dot is nowhere to be found.

[Moses]

That's my email.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Okay. I was like, I had to be somewhere. Moses. Yours is right.

[Oscar Gracie]

Email. Yeah. And also Faces of Water. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not on their email.

[Oscar Gracie]

They used just to separate.

[Moses]

Yeah, not mine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mine's not mine's. No doubt.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because some people look at it, especially if you have a name that they don't. Not used to. They don't know where it ends and when the next one starts.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's actually so crazy. I know exactly where. Like, I would know where everyone's name is. My long one is like, there's no dot between any of that. Do you think that's my whole entire day?

[Oscar Gracie]

Everyone knows Trisha Payless.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, anyways, there's that. What is that? I saw reading this earlier upstairs. Like, don't look. I was like, you're like, no, don't look at it. What is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

My new Chinese baddie lifestyle.

[Moses]

Oh, I have heard about this. This is your hot topic.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm promoting my new lifestyle.

[Moses]

Yeah, I have.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is the hot topic. The Chinese baddy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wait, I mean, I got some for you too. I'm not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, this is what he was doing upstairs. He was doing something weird and I walked in and immediately he's like, I'm going. I was like, oh.

[Moses]

Oh, wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

What do you mean you don't boil apples every morning with goji o and eat. That is actually really good for breakfast.

[Moses]

I thought people were hyping it up, but that actually is.

[Trisha Paytas]

You've seen this particular drink?

[Moses]

I've seen it all over.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I mean, this is going to make you healthy, your skin clear. Everything just get your.

[Moses]

That is good. Yeah. People say you're supposed to every morning, right. You're supposed to drink this and it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Supposed to make your skin clear and your gut.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I mean, the main thing is really to not drink cold. Like some people drink cold drinks first thing in the morning. Really bad. Like you need warm water. Even better if you have some apples in them. Because it releases things that are good for your gut. Releases things that are good for your skin. Gives you better energy for the day. Eat soup for breakfast. Wear slippers at home. Look, if you're gonna become. Look, if you're serious about becoming Chinese, you need to follow the lifesty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who said that? Who said what?

[Oscar Gracie]

Guys, it's just like the buttons, you know, One minute you don't know what it is, the next day it's on snl. Just wait. The next.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, we love. You look so good. You look so cute. Sorry. Go. I didn't mean to die.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's what it is. That's what it is.

[Moses]

Are you going to sell it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you going to join it? Did you do this for a Tik Tok?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, it's for myself.

[Trisha Paytas]

You didn't do it on Tik Tok? You didn't show it on Tik Tok?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I mean, I filmed making it, so maybe later.

[Moses]

Yeah, you should make that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's like.

[Moses]

It does taste really good. I've heard people be all about this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Can I for my tick tock? Oh, get a little video of you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it me or you?

[Oscar Gracie]

You. Now you're drinking it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And now we're gonna cut to Oscar drinking it. Awesome.

[Trisha Paytas]

No review.

[Moses]

It is really good.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's got to be voiceover, so it's fine.

[Moses]

I heard it's supposed to make you go to the bathroom. That's the point of it, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Little digestion. That's good. That's good. I have problems with that.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think. I'm not sure we'll find out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Today. Or like actually wait, I gotta go.

[Oscar Gracie]

We're like on a break. Just change.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

A long commercial break.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, okay, that's yummy. Maybe Olipop can flavor it up. It's good. Was that the big hot topic you had? Not that we have to get to the.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, the big hot topic I had was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Save it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because Mo's like, there's one. Because I came down like, who's got hot Topics? Not me. And I was like, a lot. And then was like, one big one.

[Moses]

And I was like, I know there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Was one that everyone was talking about, so I don't.

[Moses]

Oh, I'm curious.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm curious because I have one in my. I. We should do at the end with the last, like, 30 minutes, like, tell. Just everyone say what their big topic was for the day. Because I feel like I had one in my head. This is going to be the title. And I'm curious. Curious to know if we're on the same. We're probably on different.

[Moses]

Probably. You're very. You sometimes. You're very local news, but it's not local news.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not Conejo Valley Dance Marketplace. It's none of that. Yours. I can't even guess. It's so funny. Moses and I have not talked to each other in, like, a week. Like, it literally, the podcast is the only time maybe, like, since the last podcast. Maybe Wednesday, right? Because. Oh, Thursdays. Thursdays are our kind of regroup days. We go on our walks and Pilates. But Friday, I was all day filming a TV show, and I feel like I had sun, heat exhaustion. I was like, just in the boiling sun all day. And then Saturday. Oh, Saturday, we can't really talk when you have kids, they just kind of run around and you're just trying to survive.

[Oscar Gracie]

And because we are this phase when they outnumbered us.

[Moses]

So actually, ironically, I just saw a TikTok, and it was ET's TikTok, ironically, that I just saw a week later. But Leighton Eastern, Adam Brody were saying the same thing. They were like. They got asked about working together on, like, the Netflix show, and they were like, honestly, this is probably the most time we've ever had to talk to each other is when we're at work. Cause there's no kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. It's so real. I'm always so curious. I'm like, ooh, what is this? Ooh, what's your hot topic? Cause, like, we. We usually talk. You usually give me, like, what you're looking at. Like, oh, have you seen this? Have you seen this? But you haven't given me that this weekend. I've just given you recipes. What show are they on? On Netflix.

[Moses]

God, I'm forgetting what I'm talking about.

[Trisha Paytas]

We can interview them. They're like, who's your favorite Netflix stars you want to interview? And I was like, Bridgerton. But then I was like, thinking, who else?

[Moses]

Maybe I love Lan Meester. Adam Brody. Kristen Bell is also in it. Nobody wants this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nobody wants this.

[Moses]

Yes. Adam Brody play. I don't. I. God, I never even watched it. Oh, yeah, he's a rabbi. Adam Brody is a rabbi who falls for a podcaster. And the podcaster is Kristen Bell.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, I love that. Who's. Who's Lane Wer in it?

[Moses]

She is a guest star in season two, and she plays Kristen Bell's, like, old friend who's like, kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I like the name is the name. The podcast is like, nobody wants us to name the podcast on the show.

[Moses]

I don't. No, no, no. I think nobody wants this because, like, the world is kind of against them coming together, basically.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, just.

[Moses]

It all is, like, dicey. Whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, they're human beings.

[Moses]

Yeah. But I know it by having to cover it, basically.

[Trisha Paytas]

But are they, like, priests?

[Oscar Gracie]

They get married.

[Trisha Paytas]

They can't have a wife.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so what's the. What's the scandalous, like, you know what I mean? Okay, I love it.

[Oscar Gracie]

But, like, is she not Jewish?

[Moses]

I have literally no clue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Falls in love with the podcast.

[Moses]

I am merely reading the synopsis because.

[Oscar Gracie]

That'S usually, like, the thing would be if they're not of the same faith or they're not.

[Moses]

She's an agnostic sex podcaster and he's a newly single rabbi. Can their relationship survive the wildly different lives and meddling families?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Okay. I don't think so. Well, anyways, I'm down to watch it. I'm down to interview all of them at Netflix Digital. Your weekend?

[Moses]

It was a weekend. Yup. I did. I went. I went out. I went out. I went to Ted Nevison's 28th birthday party. What a time.

[Trisha Paytas]

We say that again. I screamed over it. I know what you said, but I want to be clear.

[Moses]

Yes, I went to Ted Nevison's 28th birthday party, and it was quite a time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so happy for you.

[Moses]

Yeah, it was quite an adventure. It was quite an adventure.

[Oscar Gracie]

Where was it? Like, what's the setting?

[Moses]

It was at a bar, slash club. It was at no Vacancy, which I am familiar with because that's where the Halloween party I went to. Hosted by Misha Spice and Evan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is this the one with the fridge?

[Moses]

No, no fridge.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

There's Nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

You go down like a secret door.

[Moses]

I mean, maybe, but I don't. Not that I know of.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not how you enter.

[Moses]

No, no, no. But it's like a club in Hollywood. Very dark, but, yeah, that's where Ted's birthday party was. I was there for, like, two hours. And then, granted, I never talked to Ted, so hopefully he knows I was there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Cause this is all over the same.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never said happy birthday to him?

[Moses]

No. He was literally talking to people the whole time. And I kept, like. It was almost giving, like, the Bachelor. Like, can I steal you for a minute? Like, that's what I wanted to do. But he was always talking to, like, a big group of people.

[Trisha Paytas]

The same group or different groups?

[Moses]

Mostly the same group, like, in the corner. And it's very dark, so, like, I can make out Ted because he's very tall, obviously. But it was a very. It's very dim. I'm. I was I coincidentally next to Hassan at one point at the bar, but then I was too scared to kind of say anything to him because he was also talking to people.

[Trisha Paytas]

You said nothing to Hassan, nothing to Hasan.

[Moses]

He was. He was talking to a group of people who all look very smart. So I was like, hello, you wear glasses.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are too. Very smart.

[Moses]

I can make him out, too, again, because he's tall, so I can kind of make him out, like, the silhouette. And then I saw his glasses. I was like, like, wow, that's a song. You look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like every album, they all look the same.

[Moses]

I kind of just stood next to them and like, soaked it in. I was like, wow, I'm like, next to a song right now. So I. I really. I, like, was taking a whiff. I was breathing it in. But I was with Austin show and Christian, his boyfriend, like, pretty much the whole time. Then I saw Froan and stuff a little bit. But Austin was, at one point, was like, it's a little too straight here. Like, do you want to go to the Abbey? To me and Darian, which also, side note, I went in with my camera as well. I literally have no photos. Although one girl did come up to me. Darian, Austin and Christian and, like, asked for the gays to get together for a photo, which was kind of fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally, she said that.

[Moses]

You sexy boys get together. And Austin's like, oh, so all the gays get together? Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You guys are the only ones.

[Moses]

I think the only gay boys at that time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Moses]

Yeah, I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you kind of love that, though? It's like when girls Go to an all men party. And you're like, wow, we're the only girls here.

[Moses]

I was kind of living. Yeah. Also, Ben verde ended up was there at one point too. I was like, ben, what are you doing? No, I was so confused, but like, liv. Because again, I needed like as many eyewitnesses as possible to attest and confirm that I went out and was there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you talk to him?

[Moses]

I did. I did talk to Ben verde.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you get a picture?

[Moses]

No pictures. He did say, oscar, you left the house. And I was like, yeah, it's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is the reaction we get when we go out too. I was like, you're here.

[Moses]

I know. It's pierced. Yeah. So I was really trying to make sure I had witnesses who could place me at no vacancy for Ted nivisance 20 years. I know, but why do you need witnesses? Because I feel like I could. People wouldn't believe me. And like, I need a. I don't. I need testimonials just in case it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ever comes us or like, the police.

[Moses]

Yeah. Ted's gonna be like, did you come to my party?

[Oscar Gracie]

Gonna grill him again? You would?

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I would have been like, hey, happy birthday. I tried.

[Moses]

I tried at one point, but I don't think he heard me. I was like, ted, Ted.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you didn't.

[Moses]

I swear to God. No. Cuz he was walking by. Well, here's the thing. Okay. So I was there for like two hours. And then I was with Austin and Christian, and they're like, it's pretty straight here. Like, I think I've like, maxed out on how many street people I can be around. Like, do you want to go to the abbey? And we were like, well, yeah, sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

So right away.

[Moses]

And two hours. We're there for like two hours, which is a good amount.

[Trisha Paytas]

From what time? Like 8 to 10, 10 to midnight.

[Moses]

Like 9:30. It's like 11:30. Yeah. So kind of a good amount of time. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, let's go to the abbey. And we're like, okay, work. And then we went to the abbey after. Mind you, it was country western night and weird. Like I was dressed as like. Like to go to a straight bar, you know? So it was kind of like a little wild. Yeah, that's something.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of giving me the same thing. That's why I thought it was the same kind of. You're ready to go already?

[Moses]

Everyone at the abbey was like. Most of the people had like, their denim, their cowboy hats and whatnot. Austin was Wearing a Sherpa. So I don't know how like a Sherpa. Like, you know, one of those coats with like the. That look like the fleece.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like a little sheet.

[Moses]

Yes, yes, it is giving that. So I guess kind of western, but it was. It was really fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

You like the Abbey ones last time you were there?

[Moses]

Years. It's been years and I was not prepared. I forgot that like gay drinks are very different from straight drinks. Like the gay drinks will get you together. And I forgot like on the floor they drug you. Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

See, I was thinking.

[Moses]

I was thinking the same name, but.

[Oscar Gracie]

Darian told me there's one.

[Moses]

Everyone okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Their phone stole. The bar doesn't ruby them.

[Trisha Paytas]

The other gays do. Yes.

[Moses]

Don't blame the Abby. Darium did. I'm glad you said it. Cuz Darian told me not to say it because he's like, if you say that Austin and Christian will never invite us out again. And he. Austin and Christian are kind of the best. Also shout out Christian because he's like, who's Christian? He is Austin's boyfriend. And he streams on Twitch too. And he was like. He came up to me. He's like, I gotta let you know. Like, he's like, I am as woke as they come and I'm a leftist and I will never tolerate Trisha. Pay to slander. He's like, someone tried to come into my chat and say talk bad about Trisha. And I said absolutely nice. Like, like she puts her money where her mouth is. She hasn't done anything wrong in like four years. And she goes and she will donate. She changed and she became a mother and she. A lot of people will say things, but she actually puts her money where her mouth is. And she will send a check and she will donate. Like I will stand up for her all the time. And I thought that was the sweetest thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, Christian.

[Moses]

I love Christian. Cringe Chin is his twitch name. I love him.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need to be.

[Moses]

He also. He's an actor. He's done theater. He dances. I love Austin and Christian so much. Like the nicest people in the entire world.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my gosh.

[Moses]

Yup. They're so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love when someone loves me. That's so, so nice. I think like really defends. Really goes. He's Joan of Arc for me.

[Moses]

He's like, I will not tolerate it in my chat. Like, I will ban them. I was like, that is so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love so much. Bring him on.

[Moses]

I. I don't want to. And also like going to the abbey with them is like, kind of like they're like the gay president. Like, Austin, he goes. He, like, everyone comes up. Austin, Austin. He's like, shaking everybody's hands like, hey, good to see you. Good to see you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really.

[Moses]

And he's like, so nice to everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know he was. I mean, we love him. I didn't know he was like that, where he's the gay of all gays. So he's like the new Tyler Oakley kind of.

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah. I think he's like, hot and gay. And also he's like best friends with Hassan, who I want to say is probably like the most thirsted straight guy by gays. Like, the gays love Hassan so much. So I think the combination of the two that's really makes him, like, influential in the West Hollywood environment. So it was fierce. It was. It was very fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that the picture where he was like, on all fours?

[Moses]

Yes, exactly. It was getting ready to make history. Yes. And it's Hassan and all fours. Just looking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why was he doing that at a party?

[Moses]

I don't think it was a party. I think it was like doing a yoga class.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I thought it was on Saturday night.

[Moses]

No, that's an old photo. That's an old photo. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

It was not an alt for us at Titan. It was in the 28th birthday party. I wish. I probably would have stuck around, but. But yeah, that's the number one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like there's another straight guy that everyone thirsts after.

[Moses]

Like, who?

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

I'm sure there's others, but I feel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like he's definitely one you would know.

[Moses]

I mean, I think he's definitely up there. Yeah, right. I'm pretty sure. I would love to do it like a scientific poll, but I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Ted's not up there.

[Moses]

Honestly, I feel like Ted is probably a little bit more low key, but if he was out there more, then, yeah. I mean, Ted posts a video like once every four months, but I think if he was live streaming every day like Hassan, he'd probably be equally thirsted for. That's fine. Keep him a little low key. I don't know if I need more competition, but I saw I wanted a photo of him and of Darian and Ted so bad for the height difference because everyone's always gaga, like, how much taller Ted is compared to me. And I was like, damn. I really want to see how the disparity between Ted and Darian. That was really my goal, so I did flop.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is giving, like Nate and Maddie, like, you know, like when you see.

[Moses]

Them with everybody, though, is, like, kind of crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. You know what, though? I'm gonna say, like, I don't think tall is all that. Like, you know what I mean? I do think, like, there is a thing is too tall.

[Moses]

Oh, for sure. Like the movie Tall Girl that's also on Netflix. She was too tall.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I would love to interview her. Netflix. We need Tall Girl. We need the rabbi.

[Moses]

That is so funny. Her sister was Sabrina Carpenter. So the disparity between Tall Girl and Sabrina Carpenter was also fierce, but, like, on purpose.

[Trisha Paytas]

They did that juxtaposition.

[Moses]

Yes. Yeah. Like, she was Sabrina Was like the normal. Ish height. She was like the popular girl and Tall Girl was the freak that was too tall.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That's what the movie's about. Actually, you know who's in Tall Girl is that boy that. With Kirby. He has like blonde hair. He looks like a prince. You know that couple on Tick Tock that I follow? She has the long leg. She's a red.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he looks like a prince. He was in Tall Girl. I don't know his name, but they seem nice. They've been together eight years.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. Was it Luke?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

Luke Eisner? Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he famous or just.

[Moses]

No, he is. I remember it was a hot topic at one point. I feel like I forget what he.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did, but he seems Loki.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Well, I'm glad you went get to get someone a present when you go to like, that kind of thing.

[Moses]

I. I forgot to bring my present for him, which is a frame photo of us. But I'm glad I did because there really was no room. Like, it's. It was. It was like in a private part of no Vacancy. So it was like small. It was dim. It was a lot of people. Ted knows literally everybody. I was like, going through the list. I was like, he knows Ben Verde. Like, everyone was going there. Like every crazy. I know. Me either. I don't know how that crossed over. McKenna. Grace was on the list. Somehow I didn't see her. Garrett Watts?

[Trisha Paytas]

Isam.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What'd you say?

[Moses]

Nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you go up to anybody?

[Moses]

That's the girls I knew.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you know Garrett Watts? Well, that's a gay. He wasn't in the photo with you guys?

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Moses]

I don't think he was there when the photo was happening, though. He came later.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

But yeah, he kind of knows everybody, which is. Which is fierce. I'm like, it must be nice to have everyone like you, I guess, from all walks of life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't have birthday parties. I'm like, I really have no one to invite. Like, who would I invite? Like, I don't even know.

[Moses]

You have a birthday dinner?

[Trisha Paytas]

I did have a birthday dinner, but it's like everyone else on tour with and you.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, that's it. But I like the idea of a birthday. But I don't know.

[Moses]

Sam. Yeah. I don't have that many friends, to be honest.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you on vacation. Birthday. You go on vacation?

[Moses]

Yeah, I never have like a thing, but. Yeah. After the Abbey, though. Damn. I was. I was chopped Mayor of Chopville, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why washed up?

[Moses]

I was just so tired. Like, I literally was asleep 20 out of 24 hours yesterday. Like, not even kidding because I was so, like, hungover. I guess I felt so drained. Yes. And like I said, those WeHo drinks will get a girl. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were you like, how are you when you're wasted?

[Moses]

I was like, I was just having a good time. I was very, like, giggly. I was just fine. I was having a fun time. But once I got home, I was like, damn, I never gonna wake up again. That's why I thought it was roofie. But Darian's like, I think you just. Just never really drink that much. And I was like, okay, work maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

I came up with a whole scenario in my head. And then I was like, offending myself. I was like, well, maybe the target was like, you know, Austin show or Christian, because they're like, so cute. But I'm like, no, like, I could be a target.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are the target. I could be a target. You know what? I take it back. It's not a stereotype. I was roofied once at the Abbey, actually, the chapel. Chapel, yes, next door. They're curfew there. That's where I ended up in the van. The kidnapping story on Call Her Daddy was. I ended up in Van Nuys from the chapel. And I was like, I was definitely roofied for sure. So it does happen.

[Moses]

See?

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was. I was. I was all come out of you back then. You know what I mean? But I wasn't the hottest girl, you know. If there was like an Austin show, there was like an Alex Earl who was hot back in the day, who was like the hot girl back in.

[Moses]

The day that I could grace Hell big. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, okay. Like, grace. How big was there? And then I'm like, there, right? And they're tinier. So you think it could hit them harder, you know? But it hit me hard. They might have put horse tranquilizer in there.

[Moses]

Because I was like, yeah, I was incapacitated.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that you got the confidence for that, because you do. You are worthy of not someone roofing you, but like someone wanting to exactly.

[Moses]

Be with you. I thought too. I was like. I was offending myself. Like, me making up a scenario and getting offended by something I made up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, yeah. Oh, well, you weren't though, probably.

[Moses]

No, I think I just have a low tolerance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were you like, blacked out the next day or like.

[Moses]

I was just like, literally, I couldn't move like, I was just, like, asleep for. I woke up to eat, and that was it.

[Oscar Gracie]

So when you don't drink regularly, you forget to drink enough water as you drink the drink.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Do all the things the water boy when drinking so you don't get, like, hungover. And the older you get, the worse.

[Moses]

The older you get, the worst it gets. And again, I don't know what they WeHo puts. Like, the WeHo drinks are just stronger than straight drink. So I was drinking at Ted's party, and it was like, just a nice time, you know, very expensive. Not a lot of alcohol, but I know that not an open bar. The Abby will get you together. No, their drinks are so expensive at, like, straight places.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I didn't open bar wines where I paid for everything. And then it was in WeHo. It's actually right across from the Abbey. And I kind of forgot the name of it was. Doesn't matter. But I remember they, like, kicked us out at midnight because I think we were just, like, drinking too much. They were probably like, like, oh, this is more. Because it was kind of, like, relatively cheap. Not cheap. I think it was like $4,000 or something, which isn't crazy for, like, the night in, like, open bar for everyone. And I think when. And people just ended up drinking, like, more than they anticipated, and they're like, okay, everyone needs to go. I was like, oh, we were, like, kicked out at, like, midnight or something. I was like, okay, so maybe that was why. I don't know. That's. That's interesting. What is the etiquette for that? Because, like, weddings, everyone pays for the alcohol. Like, the bride and groom pay for the alcohol.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But birthday parties, people just pay for their.

[Moses]

I think so.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that.

[Moses]

I know. I think. I think it was fine. Yeah, the drinks are just like. They're really expensive there too. We're like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is a drink nowadays? A little tequila sunrise.

[Moses]

I mean, they're at the Abbey. They were, like, 15, but the no vacancy there were, like 30. It was like, twice the price for the same beverage.

[Trisha Paytas]

30 Crazy Ibaka Crayon, I guess, because you're not getting roofy, honestly.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Security.

[Moses]

No, but I like Adam McIntyre. Like, I. I remember his saga. Last time he went to the Abbey, he got his phone stolen. So I was, like, progressively getting more drunk, but also trying to be, like, more alert. And I was like. I was just keeping such an eye out. I was like, no one's gonna steal my phone.

[Oscar Gracie]

What's your phone?

[Moses]

I had it in my front pocket, so no one can.

[Trisha Paytas]

You need to put it in. No pocket. Pockets. You gotta put it. What were you wearing?

[Moses]

Like a. Basically a shirt like this and pants.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always put mine in my cleavage, but I guess I don't know. Your butt?

[Moses]

No, like your butt like in. I guess. No, I feel like that's where people would go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like really in there though.

[Moses]

Like in my hole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you have to underneath to get it. I think that's where. Cuz yeah, obviously the butt pocket. Everyone's gonna go.

[Moses]

But they're not gonna go in there in the hole. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz I do. I usually put it in between my legs or in my. Because no chances. There it is kind of. Yeah. We love West Hollywood, but be vigilant because for sure it's very, very scary there. But you had a good time.

[Moses]

You see any famous people? It was really fun. I mean no, I feel like everyone famous was at Ted's birthday more famous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Than at the Abbey.

[Moses]

At the Abbey was just. I think Austin show was probably the most.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. And everyone loves in there.

[Moses]

Yeah. Everyone comes up to him, he's shaking hands. He does give like the president of just shaking hands.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Moses]

Everyone's like austin. Austin's like, hello, good to see you. Hello. It's like giving very much like politician.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Ben Platt.

[Moses]

Yeah, kind of.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When Back in the day when I go to Abbey, everyone was like a kisser. Everyone kiss you. That's how you do it.

[Moses]

No one kisses any more than you. Some hugs, some hug. Like to people you knew before it was a hug. But to like, like strangers, it was like a nice handshake and stuff. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Times have changed. Ten years ago, 2016 was my West Hollywood days. And you know, some years ago, I guess different times, people are just always kissing you. I loved it.

[Moses]

It's great in the age of consent, I guess, right? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's more like cheek kiss.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like.

[Moses]

Yeah. But still you never know. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. I guess. You do have to ask. Yeah. People even ask like for hugs and stuff. Yeah. Or handshakes. They're like, can I touch you?

[Moses]

Yeah. Love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

We do love asking. Well, I'm glad that you want. I can't believe you sub 20 hours. Maybe you were like, I'm really trying to seriously think about the times that I've been reviewing. It's like I do remember blacking out and not remembering the night before. But if you remember the night before, maybe you were.

[Moses]

I don't think I was, but I think it's. I would rather Believe that than just believe I'm chopped and unk and washed.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's crazy. There's a new one too. There's new sayings. It's. Oh, I should have written it down this morning. Ari's daughter was telling me something. It's something something or goofball. Like, there's like, ah, it's like, serious, but I can't think of what it was. Okay, whatever. There's all this new Gen Z term, but chopped and onk I know are the ones. Because snl. Of course.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you watch it this week?

[Moses]

I saw clips.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never sit down and watch the whole thing?

[Moses]

I have never sat down and watched a whole snl.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of fun to be like, oh, turn it on. You see it on tv. It's like, you know, you get the intro.

[Moses]

I saw. Yeah, I saw clips. I saw. There was a lot of controversy around it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really? I didn't see any controversy.

[Oscar Gracie]

I didn't know.

[Moses]

That's all I saw was controversy.

[Trisha Paytas]

About who? About what? Vin? Finn Wolfhard.

[Moses]

Yeah, about Finn Wolfhard. A lot of the Stranger Things clips I saw or skits, people were kind of offended by. Actually, some of them I'm, like, valid, some not. I don't know. The big one that people were offended by was in the opening monologue. Did you watch the whole thing?

[Oscar Gracie]

I did.

[Moses]

I was trying to think what was problematic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, all the kids were on.

[Moses]

Yeah, okay. And then in the opening monologue, fan made a joke about how he's grown up in the public eye since joining Stranger Things at the age of 12. He said, My voice changed on camera. My first kiss was on. On camera. And I can't actually believe that I'm admitting this, but the first time that I learned what a woman looked like down there was on camera as well. And then it flashed to the Demogorgon.

[Trisha Paytas]

It does look like a vagina mouth.

[Moses]

Yeah. And then people thought that that was, like, a very misogynistic joke because it, like, falls back to the stereotype that, like, women's vaginas are, like, disgusting and gross and have teeth and stuff, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it has teeth.

[Moses]

It's like a massage in it. Yes, it does.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. I mean, okay. Like, it did. Okay, that's. I mean, there's. Yeah.

[Moses]

One. I'll read you one tweet for context, I suppose one tweet was, our society is so comfortable with the degradation of women's bod. I'm expected to hear this and be a good sport. I am expected. I'M supposed to feel ashamed and disgust around my own body. That allows me to laugh along. Instead, I see this for the heinous misogyny it is, which I. I didn't think much of it, but I don't have a vagina, so I don't think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really didn't think. I just made a joke about it. I was like, oh, it looked like. Because, like, I think when things look like penises or look like vagina, you're just like, yeah, it looks like a vagina. Like, yeah, it's just like open and wet and white and you're just like. That looks like. That looks like one to me. It was like, oh, my God, that's so disgusting. Like, it wasn't like. He's like, bleh. So I thought what a girl was like. It wasn't like that. It was just like, oh, that's a.

[Moses]

Yeah, I agree with, like. I personally didn't take offense to it, but I also don't have a vagina. To me, it kind of reminded me of like the dune popcorn buckets being compared to like a bussy, you know, like a whole. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And did you take offense to that?

[Moses]

No. I thought it was funny when people were fisting the busies of the dune worms.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it's like kind of funny, maybe more concerning that he was like a child. I guess it's kind of like weird, I guess. But I mean, I think all in all, I think it's like, I do look at him. I mean, he like his home. I don't know, he's grown and stuff. But it's like they all do look like kids. I don't know. You think of them as kids. Even Millie by Brown, you think of her as like a child forever. Yeah.

[Moses]

And she's a mother, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like a full grown mother adult. But you just look at them and think, children.

[Moses]

Yeah. And then the other joke that I saw people were offended by was in the Sex in the City, in the Sex and the City skit, where he was joined by the other Stranger Things boys, there was a clip talking about their sex lives. And Caleb says, well, Max and I started off all hot and heavy, right. But then a couple years in, she just lies there like she's back in that coma. And then Finn says, lucas, you're so bad. Which to me was like an obvious, like, Sex in the City, like, spoof. But people like Stranger Things fans didn't like referring to Max, Sadie Singh's character, like, like being back in the coma, laying down some People thought it was, like, a joke, but other people, like, no, it's like a pillow princess thing of, like, you know, you kind of being over it and just, like, sitting there, not doing any of the work, like, when it comes to sex. But to me, it was such, like, an obvious spoof of Sex in the City. Like, it was. The whole thing was, like, built around Sex in the City and, like, so unserious. But I kind of took it as. My personal interpretation was people were being, like, a little too precious because people love Sadie, saying they love Max so much. So I think people are just very protective of, like, her and the character instead of, like, understanding that it's like, the spoof, you know, but yeah, and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also, it is like, a scan us. And also, yeah, the character. It's not like the actor, like, said it on his own.

[Moses]

I know it was. I know people are mad at them, but I'm like, okay. They were just, like, reading what was written for them, too. It kind of reminded me of, like, remember when Bowen Yang in, like, the Weekend Update, like, spoofed Chapel Roan, like, last year at some point? And everyone was so mad because, like, Bowen's supposed to be friends with Chapel. And then things like, I talked to her before this. Like, she was good. I feel like people just get very protective of.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get that, I suppose.

[Moses]

But to me, it wasn't that big of a deal. But. And the other thing I saw, too, was they parodied Will, AKA Noah. Will slash Noah Schnapps coming out scene. And then people thought that was homophobic. But I'm like, no, we all agreed that the scene was. I mean, the scene was longer than the final battle of Stranger Things. Vecna. It was just a spoof of, like, that being such a long scene, but we were all making fun of that. But now it's like. Like, I think people just get too precious about things sometimes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I watched this kit, and I've never seen Sex in the City or Stranger Things, so I really had no idea what was going on. But I was like, I. I liked it. I appreciate it for what it was. But I can see that now. I suppose I can see why people would be upset. I guess it's like, yeah, I guess people are gonna be offended or they're not. Like, the Traders too weird. Like. Like, what's. What's the. Colton like, he was, like, offended, but then, like, Michael's like, that's a hunt. And it's like, some people. But he was offended. So it's like, I Guess the people were offended. Did have a right to be offended, I suppose.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the other people, I don't know, I just. Snl, at the end of the day, I really don't think it's like that big of a deal.

[Moses]

Yeah, agree. I think, like, the point of SNL is to, you know, spoof and be comedic. I think sometimes, obviously it can be. It can miss a mark. Like when they made fun of Amy. Amy Lou woods teeth from the White Lotus last year. And everyone kind of agree that like, you know, that was a little bit too far. But I think that as long as like, like the actors from Stranger Things don't think is offensive, I feel like, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Because with that, Amy Lou would actually did take offense to being made fun of. So that kind of makes it different.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like, I didn't like that, like, the button girl actually decides. I wrote this back to you on your tick tock. The button girl was. She does not like being spoofed.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, she said she doesn't like any attention to that matter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's like, I don't like it. Is she a child? I guess I didn't know she was a child too. I thought she was like an adult, but I'm like, okay, she has like a child just with her button. Someone needs to. Yeah. That added a little context to it. So people on the SNL skit I saw did say that she does not like this. So, you know.

[Moses]

But you like snl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I feel like it can be. It's like saved again. Like, I was so sad when Bowen left, of course, but I watched the Marcelo Hernandez. Like, was it on a flick set special? Where do we watch it? The stand up special. And then I loved all his stuff. Honest. I really do like him. He's been doing the press rounds too.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

His mom, Royal Court cutie. He is cute and he's funny. He's like, so funny. I also like the girl. I don't know her name. It's not Chloe Feynman, but she's like on all the sketches now too. And I really like the cast. I think. I think it's good again. I enjoyed it. What part did I like about it? I'm trying to think of, like, my favorite sketch. I can't even think I like that. Oh, I like the Harry Potter. Oh, yeah, they heated. Was it?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that one. You know, Jason Momoa was in it.

[Moses]

And I love Sabrina Carpenter randomly making an appearance.

[Trisha Paytas]

That one was good. Yeah, I really. I enjoyed it, I think. Did you watch it? No. You don't watch it with me. Were you watching it at all?

[Oscar Gracie]

No. When did you watch it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Last night when I was in bed, like, you do you know how we, like, roll over and, like, our faces are glowing from the phone? I was. That's when I said good night. You didn't watch any of it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I saw a couple of clips, the ones you talked about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. You see the Jason Momoa one?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I didn't see him on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had a debate over this. It wasn't really a hot topic, but it was. It's. It's my hot topic. Was that. Was I talking to you about this? I was entertaining, tanning yesterday about this, the Jason Moa and calling that his new girlfriend, the love of his life.

[Oscar Gracie]

You told me about it and you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Didn'T seem that concerned about it. He's like, well, he's with her.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like, we should say what it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

You see that? Okay, you see Justin on the red carpet, I don't know, some movie with his new girlfriend. And they were. They asked her. They asked him about her, and she's like. He's like, oh, yeah. She's like the love of my life. Life. And everyone was pissed. The Internet was pissed. I was pissed. And I tell Moses, not pissed about it. He's like, oh, well, he's.

[Moses]

Why were you pissed about it?

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean? You're gonna say the girlfriend you've been with for a year and a half is the love of your life after you just ended a 20 year relationship with Lisa Bonet, who you said you saw on TV and you would do anything to marry, and you're gonna marry that girl one day. And every chance you get, every interview, you're like, she's the goddess. She's Lisa Monet. Like, who could be hotter than her? Had two kids with her, the whole nine, and then meets, you know, probably a very lovely girl, happy for their new relationship. But on the red carpet, you're like, this is the love of my life. I don't know how I like, I am Jason Momoa apologist through and through. I love him more than anything. We know. My son is up woman. Like, I love Jason Mo, but like, no way, no way. And you're such a golden couple. Like, people love you. Lisa Bonet is like, truly, like, the hottest. She is Pamela Anderson. She is iconic. She is like the hottest girl in the whole world. Baddie through and through. Like, just everything about her, you know, just is amazing. Her career, everything. Angel heart. Like, everything and, you know, and we love. It's fine. People aren't happy. They move on. They're allowed to move on. In other relationships, that's not the issue. But to be like, the love of my life is crazy. That's like, if we. We're together six years, we're only together six years, right? We're at six years. Tomorrow we break up, you know, and then you date someone for three months and you're like, this is the love of my life. After we just had, like, three kids together, going through postpartum, sacrificing everything for you, I'm hyping your career. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I would be.

[Oscar Gracie]

I always take the blame for all men around the world, everything they do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Could you imagine if you went on the carpet three months later or like a year and a half later with a girl you knew for three months? Like, this is the love of my life. After you've built me caverns and cooked for me and helped me through everything in life, and then, like, this is actually the love of my life. What?

[Oscar Gracie]

No. First of all, I wouldn't say that. If you have kids, like, I think it's very important for the kids how you treat their mom and how they perceive your relationship with their mom. So I wouldn't say that.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

Because it's. Because to them, I feel like it even hurts them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even to me, it's not even about the mom. It's about. Oh, yeah. Not about the kids. I feel like this one is directly about her. Like, Lisa Bonet was like the star. He was the one that idolized her. She was like, you know, everything. And she gave him kids and she, you know, he became the rising star. So she's supporting him. She's everywhere this. And then it's like to turn it around is like so, like. You know what I mean? Like, he, like, pined after her, yearned for her so much, like in the media and everything like that. And then it's just like, like, you turn it around in that and it's like, no, straight to the new girlfriend. Like, I love her. Like, obviously she's like, killing it. She's actor. She's gorge. But I think it's just so. I hate it so much.

[Oscar Gracie]

I hate it because it's so new. He's in the still in the honeymoon phase. Like, he's high, you know, like, it sounds like a high person talking. Like, he's so. You know what I mean? Like, because a lot of celebrities are like that. They're very.

[Trisha Paytas]

But not him.

[Oscar Gracie]

He's very loving, you know, like, they have this sense of, like, they love too much. It's almost like love bombing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's a whole other thing.

[Oscar Gracie]

But that's. That's what it reads to me. That's what it reads.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate it. I would say I was a bigger Jason Moore fan than Lisa Monet, but I'm like, I'm so sad about it. It made me sad because I just like, he's a good one. You know what I mean? He's a good one. And even through the divorce and stuff like that, you're like, he's still a good one. Like, he respects women and, like, you know, we love that. And then I saw that, and I was just like, you were with that woman for 20 years. You wore there for 20 years, and you were, like, obsessed with her and had two kids with her. Anyways, if you called someone the love of your life after me, I'd be like, you know, I don't have to do anything. I don't have to do anything. I think, like. Like the Internet with Jason, I think they just let. They let him know. Just like Christy and Desmond. Do you see Desmond making out with a girl on tmz? They had footage of him making out in a bar. He's like, oh, I'm so sorry. I'm taking the hurt. Like, this is her. This is a very hard time right now for all our family things, like me out with a girl at a bar. You just announced the divorce. Like, I get it. Cheaters are cheaters, and they probably were cheating for a while, but it's like, have some tact. It was like, make out Sloppy. Make out in a bar.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hate it. Anyways, okay. I guess no one's that angry about the Jason. I was very angry about him. No one thinks it's a big deal. Okay? Just me.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I agree with you, but I'm not angry. Like, I agree with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm hurt.

[Moses]

I guess I would think that, like, if you're going to leave, like, if a relationship is going to end, you're going to, you know, be public with another one. Shouldn't you, like, think it's the love? Shouldn't you, like, act like, you know, this relation, this relationship is the love of your life versus the present, versus act like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tell her that in private.

[Moses]

Whatever statement about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think you need that.

[Moses]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Oscar Gracie]

But that. But think about. I think she's the one asking for validation.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. That's a crazy assumption.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's crazy because in a sense, like. Like, you live in a shadow of. It's like anyone living in the shadow of Brittany Furlong, Pam Landerson. So living in the shadow of somebody mythical and a relationship that was so publicized and loved and everything. So it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a tough one, honestly. Like, I would just. I literally talked about this yesterday with Tana. I would, like, just be, as they would say, not, like, taking the L, but, like, more of just like, we would love it. You know what I mean? Oh, she. She made a good comparison. After she was engaged or after Tana dated Mod sun, he got engaged. Avril Lavigne, like, shortly after And Tana was like, I was obsessed. I was like, Albert Levine's like a goddess. Like, she, like, was in love with him too. And she. But I was like, she's ever levine. Like, how can you. So I feel like that was like, I was saying with Pamela Anderson, I like, because she was in the news too, with. On the indie Cones thing. And like, Brittany Furlan has such an issue with her being his ex wife. And I was just like. But at that point, you just have to accept that they were like, such an iconic couple, that they are these, like, legends. And you're just like, no, you won't. You can't compare to that. So why, like, try? It's fine. Like, have the relationship be cute in it. Like, you deserve it. All these girls are like, younger and everything. You know what I mean? But it's like, you can't. You can't even try to compare to those relationships. But in both those relationships, the women really sore. But anyways, it's fine. I guess he's playing a villain, so he's really just. I don't know what to support anymore. You know, I just am like, he's no longer the Aquaman. But they're redoing. Did we know this? They're redoing all of dc?

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They'Re redoing all of it.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

A revamp.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

New Wonder Woman.

[Moses]

That's when, like, James Gunn took over and like, Jason Momoa's girlfriend, Adria, who.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is beautiful, by the way. There's no hate to Adrian. She is actually, like, a stunning, gorgeous, young, amazing. Love it. Kudos to her. We love Jason Momoa, but Adria Arona.

[Moses]

She is rumored to be Wonder Woman or at least in contention for Wonder Woman whenever they cast it. Yeah. And she actually is beautiful and she has that up. But yes, they are rebooting.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that means a new Aquaman reboot at some point.

[Moses]

Yeah, for sure. But I mean, they're really taking their time because, like, even Robert Pattinson's Batman is supposed to, like, be rebooted at some point. There's supposed to be a new Batman. Not him, not Robert Pattinson. Yeah. So it's all a little all over the place. There's going to be a big delay, I think, before we see how big are we talking. James Gunn said he doesn't want to do another Batman until the Robert Pattinson one is done. And that's like, next year, so probably like 2028. The earliest. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there a show like this already? I feel like we talked about it. But maybe I was just thinking in my head, where there's like a high school of superheroes. It's like the teen version of Bruce Wayne. The teen version of Aquaman.

[Moses]

Or is that like, in my head, there's Teen Titans.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they superheroes?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they, like, the name superheroes?

[Moses]

They're like the, like, okay, so it's like Robin, who is the apprentice of Batman, and there's like, Wonder Girl, who is the apprentice of Wonder Woman. Like, so it's the, like. Yeah, they're the family of the main one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's the stars?

[Moses]

What do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, where's Batman and Wonder Woman?

[Moses]

They're still, like, in the unit, like, in the world, but, yeah, they're like their own. They're like the junior version of the Justice League. I suppose there is like a cartoons that's like Wonder Woman as if she's like a, you know, in high school or something.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, something like. It would be a TV show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like Smallville. I love. I love Smallville. What are we going to wear to the wb? Should wear a Justice League shirt. I'm trying to think.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah, we got to represent.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's very Big Bang Theory coded. So I'm like, do I wear like, he wears always the Flash? Well, I guess we were at Aquaman. Who likes the Flash, Really? They did give a spin off to the Flash, didn't they? Did he get his own movie?

[Moses]

He did get his own movie. The Flash got his own movie. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it played by Ezra?

[Moses]

Yes. Yep. And it.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened to them?

[Moses]

It flopped. And then thus went into the reboot of DC Comics. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what did.

[Moses]

Was already in. In the works before the Flash movie came out. But then it. It did so terrible that it was like, yeah, let's just move on. And then that's when, you know, Superman is part of, like, the new reboot of it. And like, Supergirl, that's also part of the reboot. When's that one out, May?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the one. Jason was a villain.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're filmed it already.

[Moses]

It's in the can.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's done. All right. Well, I don't know where that came from. I was shooting at.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think you were trying to understand the schedule so, you know, if women can be casted.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. That's why I was.

[Moses]

Oh, that's what you're going with there.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's in my mind, what I was doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, we're so aligned. Did I not say that out loud? Really? Oh, that's what I did.

[Oscar Gracie]

Say, because I thought you're gonna go to, like, was there for a show when they were in kindergarten. Superheroes in kindergarten.

[Trisha Paytas]

10 years. Because I really do think he has, like, a little baby Aquaman. He kind of swims in the tub. He kind of, like, swims. I mean, we have a little chair for him.

[Oscar Gracie]

You put him in and just, like, you turn the battery on and just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, wowing really fast. He wants to get out of it. He just wants not get out of it. He just wants to swim more. You know what I mean? Wow. It's really wild. It's really crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Blue eyes. It's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's so blonde. Blue eyes, and he's so, like, strong. Like, his feet are so tall. It's tall. Strong. Like, I just. I really feel like it's Aquaman. Literally.

[Moses]

Got to take him to the aquarium and see what happens.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just throw him in.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

In front of the. That's crazy. Oh, my gosh. No, that is a good idea.

[Oscar Gracie]

With all the sharks.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah. Because I think that was a scene in Aquaman, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

When they. He was bullied and they came to the defense thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love that we have to invoke them an emotion.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I do think he has. He has something special. Anyways. What was this? I was gonna say something. I don't know what I did, what I was gonna say.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I mean, that's. We went back to finish that segment, Right? Welcome into superhero.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's it. I had a story. Now I can't think. Okay. I need to really write down my thoughts. I really do.

[Oscar Gracie]

But anything else about the tour we're doing or that's we're talking about the shirts, what we're gonna wear and all that?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I was transitioning to another subject, but I forgot what I'll come back to. It'll be fine. I'm actually wearing a Zoe Kravitz Golden Globes inspired dress today. Hers was a St. Laurent, but they do not make it in my size, so I wore this. I love her. She's everything. All my thoughts on that.

[Moses]

Zoe Kravitz dating Harry Styles, who did announce finally his music comeback. I forgot how long it's been since we had a Harry Styles like album. He really has been off doing side quest for years. And I. Yeah. Saying that his album announcement, it reignited the hairy girl in me. I was like, wow, I'm so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

When is it?

[Moses]

I'm so. It comes out in March, so it's like. It's actually really soon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

It is Called Kiss all the Time. Just disco occasionally. And I love the COVID It's him, like, standing in outside in a sweater, and he has the disco ball in the back. I love everything. I love the whole vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

I'm so seated, and I was like, I had to go. I had to make a video on it. And then I, like, was trying to find, like, a recent video of Harry Styles on Getty Images. And literally the last, like, appearance he made was for the movie Don't Worry Darling, which feels like, like. Doesn't that feel like 10 million years ago?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, 2022.

[Moses]

2022.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. Yeah. Because I remember watching that before Malibu was. Yeah, that's wild.

[Moses]

That's like, his last, like, public red carpet appearance. Everything else, he's obviously been cited and stuff. That's just, like, him on his side quests, doing marathons and whatnot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

But his last, like, public appearance was for Don't Worry Darling.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why did he disappear for that? That long?

[Moses]

I guess he was taking a break, and then. Because he won. He did the Grammys. He won the Grammy. He, like, he beat Beyonce for, like, album of the year at the gr. And then everyone was, like, really mad that he won, I remember. So probably wanted to take a little bit of a break after that. And then I would guess also probably grieving with, like, Liam. With Liam's death. So that also probably contributed to it too. So, yeah, just probably wanting a break after working so much, I would imagine. But damn, I really missed him. And of course, everyone's first instinct, the second Harry announced his comeback was like, Benson Boone, you flipped your last flip role model, the Sally songs over, like, all the Harry Styles juniors, right? Yeah. Like, let's take a break. Harry's back. Harry is back. He's. He is like the pink print. He is the blueprint of everything, you know, so he's kind of been a little low key too, I think, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

He just kind of did a break. Interesting. Why do they say they are like him? Why was the correlation?

[Moses]

Because he's so, like. I mean, especially you see, like, the Benz with, like, the jumpsuits and kind of, like, like, playing with, like, the gender norms of it all, you know, like, has a little bit of that, like, a little queerness to, like, the style and the music and everything. And that's like, those are Harry's nachos. Like, he is of this generation. Obviously, Harry's been inspired by, like, you know, David Bowie, Elton John and, like, Prince and stuff, but as far as, like, current pop, male pop stars. Yeah. Like Harry is the one and God, I loved. I love Harry Styles. I really do. I literally, I just. The flashbacks of me being. I was like a hardcore hairy girl. Like me and my friend Veronica would just like anywhere where Harry would hang out, we would hang out again. This is peak parasocialism to me. Yeah, that's why I can comment on parasocialism because I was, I was, you know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me and Jason, mo. I'm like.

[Moses]

We would just like hang out in places where Harry would be like Malibu and stuff. And we'd be like what if we ran into. Into him here?

[Trisha Paytas]

I used to say that all the time.

[Moses]

Jackson.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like you never ran into him?

[Moses]

Never.

[Trisha Paytas]

I used to be outside Michael Jackson's house. I ran into him one time there. But I used to hang out in his like city. He. He doesn't live there anymore. It's Los Olivos. But it was like we would just hang out and hope to see him and we like never saw him. So you had to like go right by his gate and then we would see him and then it was. But then you shouldn't do that. But he was really nice. One of those people. Have you ever seen those montages of people like running the stage?

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so people like someone ran the stage to. Who's the guy from Rune Fight?

[Moses]

Adam Levine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And like he. There's like one famous clip of him like someone you know, rushing to hug him and he's just like, like, like as if he was like gross out first. It's like security. He's like shook. Okay. Right. They show him around stage really like that or whatever. And then they cut to like Michael Jackson all the time. So like fans rush the shit rush on stage for him and he just like hugs them and holds them and like dances them for like two minutes. And like. Yeah, someone shouldn't rush the stage but just shows how like wonderful he was. And same thing with the house. Obviously don't jump to people's houses. That's freaking weird.

[Oscar Gracie]

But Michael J, there's one famous one cuz I think they jumped when he was going up a crane and he was basically holding them.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was a guy?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, that was that guy who was holding the person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that one was scary cuz he was going up and then he held them. But then there's just some of. I mean people were always rushing the stage for Michael Jackson and he's. He was always like dancing with them and Same thing with us too. He said hi to us. I'm like, you could have just kept driving like, hi, everyone. Like, we love you. I was like, but you know, hairstyles I can't really get.

[Moses]

I was gonna say you definitely had your Harry Styles moment. It was quick, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was quick. It was. Destroyed my life. It's like Justin Bieber with the.

[Moses]

But you said you wanted to cosplay him at one point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, then he wears a lot of pink.

[Moses]

Yes. And he liked his Coachella outfit, I think or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did, yeah. I was cut. But it was short lived.

[Moses]

Yes. But maybe this will bring you back. Because my hairy moment, it was like dormant and I kind of forgot. And then it did get reactivated with the quickness. I was like, damn. Because now there's rumors about like the tour and he want like, might do like a residency at Madison Square Garden or something. The girl I saw on Tick Tock people are booking their Harry Ween tickets. Like they're booking their New York trips on Halloween just in case Harry does a concert on.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is that? What's Harry?

[Moses]

Harry Ween is when he does a concert on Halloween and he like dresses up. Like, I don't know if you'll remember this, but he was Dorothy from the wizard of Oz at one point for Halloween.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do not remember. I love that. Was he wearing the full dress? Braids?

[Moses]

Any for four? Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. So he loves a costume.

[Moses]

He does, yeah. So Harry Ween's kind of like, you know, Sabrina also did that this past Halloween where like she wore all the different costumes for her tour. Sabrina Wein. So it's very similar to that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love you just put your name Trisha Wein.

[Moses]

Yeah. Literally.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

You should do that. Actually perform at Halloween.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would love. Would love that.

[Moses]

And there's rumors that DJO might be one of the openers for him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's that? You. You're like.

[Moses]

Joe Keery.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. Joe Kerry. I'd probably know who that is. Like DJ is gonna be there. Is that a stage name? DJ name.

[Moses]

He's just not a dj, it turns out. Just a musician.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so why is it dj?

[Moses]

I've been thinking the same thing too. It is kind of like misleading to the, to the normies. Like you would think, djo, dj. But no, he's just a singer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he good?

[Moses]

He actually is. I finally heard a song that's been like number one on Spotify since Stranger Things ended. And I did enjoy it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're into it?

[Moses]

I am into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the thing he was doing Charlie xcx. They're like posing together.

[Moses]

They did the Golden Globes together. They introduced Best Song. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why were they posing? I got a stool, though.

[Moses]

They did a photo shoot backstage as well. And then that's when Charlie said, it's like posing with my grandpa. Is that the clip you saw?

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw a clip of mean Twitter. I don't like Twitter, but people on Twitter being like, he hates the smell of cocaine. Open that.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. And everyone's like, well, cocaine doesn't smell.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was weird. I was like, what the hell is this?

[Moses]

People do get weird. I saw that one a lot, too. Yeah. But the original, without the Stan Twitter context of it, was just like Charlie being like, oh, it's like posing with my grandpa because he's so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what does that mean?

[Moses]

Because he's so. He's like an old soul, basically. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was kind of not awkward, but, like. Yeah, you kind of were like, what is this pairing?

[Moses]

Yeah, I think that. Well, Dijo, it has been a Charlie Stan for a long time as well.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, interesting. You wouldn't have thought that from that photo shoot.

[Moses]

I know, but he's been. Yeah. He cites her as one of his influences for a long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

So both British.

[Moses]

Joe's not British.

[Trisha Paytas]

He looks so British.

[Moses]

I think the hair does give, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

British, like, Andrew Garfield hype. You took the word out of my mouth.

[Moses]

Yes, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Andrew Garfield could play Joe. Kerry. He was. Andrew Garfield is. Have you ever seen those rankings of the Glambots? Like, the worst Glambots ever?

[Moses]

No, you haven't seen it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Wait, you get into my big Hot Topic.

[Moses]

Oh, this is the big one, too. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Jlo. Oh, at the Glambot.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was waiting for you to set it up.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because. Because it was so crazy how everyone were up in arms about it, and it was so much so that probably the PR team reached out to him. He made a video about.

[Moses]

Cole responded, yeah, he made a video.

[Trisha Paytas]

About it last week. Did we not talk about this or no. Or was this week.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, because for some reason, it only surfaced up now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. JLo being a. And I, like, I was trying to get on the JLO train again because I, like, loved her New Year's Eve, like, residency in Vegas. I love JLo again, but damn, she really is just kind of awful.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, I mean, I think some. Some celebrities see themselves as much higher about in a different sphere from most people. So for her, he was like, staff. He's working here. I'm not gonna talk to him. I'm not gonna look at him. I'm not gonna acknowledge.

[Trisha Paytas]

But to not say thank you to someone.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just like, thanks or just be nice. And. And the worst thing is like. Like you're going on a machine that's gonna show you in slow motion being the worst of yourself. Like, being.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, the interaction wasn't in slow motion.

[Oscar Gracie]

But in the video, like, the whole interaction happens and then you see her in slow motion and she just looks evil in slow motion.

[Moses]

Damn.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, like, if at least you were like, this is the moment to be the opposite. Like, because to be shown in slow motion, you want to be positive and smiling and happy and not the way she was.

[Trisha Paytas]

They forced him to make the response.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think that the backlash was definitely because for him too, he doesn't want it to become the thing, the hot water glambot. You know what I mean? The place where people get canceled or he wants celebrities.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's like, excited to be the glam bot. They're fun, they're happy.

[Oscar Gracie]

But there's. There have been moments where people were in hot waters because of who. They didn't do it right. They didn't move like it. It is a sensitive moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were talking about this yesterday on outlove Line. I was just thinking, like, I would never do the glam bot because I just know I would look so ugly. There was no way in hell, like, something's gonna be jiggling weird. Like, the trick to the glambot is to not do too many movements because it catches you in a weird movement.

[Moses]

You know, we talked about this before and you said that, like, you would want to purposefully have a bad glambot because of how, like, iconic it would be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar, don't clock me. It's 2026. I'm like the star there at the Oscars. I'm just a little. I'm another influencer. That's annoying to find the glam bot. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

Like, I would love your glam bot. What would you do for your glam?

[Trisha Paytas]

I would want to purposely make it ugly. You know what I mean? Just so you have the bad. I would do something like, where's my camera? Is it going to be slow motion? I don't know.

[Moses]

Jimmy will do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you do it? Okay. Something like. Something like that, I think, think just. I mean, granted, I already have double chins without trying, but I love it to just be a little more accentuated.

[Moses]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Something crazy or even like cross eye. Like, you know, because I think that's. I. I swear.

[Oscar Gracie]

We have. We have like a timer on the wall. It restarts in the new year.

[Moses]

How many days opinions I've been reset. Yes. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do remember that cuz Jimmy did an edit of me on the glam but I do think it. Yeah, I. I did a weird ugly face. I think the new thing would be like a hair flip Watch like this like you're just like.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just like that and then the hair is stuck on your face.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let's hear glam by it.

[Moses]

I would probably do. I. I. We mentioned Joey King. The Joey King one which I think is iconic. When she did. She had the bob and she did the hair flip and the thumbs up and I. That one eats. I love it. I would pro reheat the Joey King nachos. I too. I'm bad with any kind of photo so especially a glam bought the slow mo. I don't know what the hell I would do either. So I think I would purposely have to go bad just to make it like, oh, he's in on the joke. Because I'm going to be bad with or without me trying. So I might as well lean in and make it the worst.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would you do it?

[Moses]

I would, I would not want to, but I think I. If I was asked to do if Cole's like, I really want you to the Glambot and like, like, okay, sure. And then I'll do it. And then I would per. I would have to troll just because I would rather be in control of it being bad than have it accidentally being bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

You wouldn't wait in line to do it.

[Moses]

No, I just. I know what it's gonna. I know it's gonna go poorly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I agree. I agree. I would not. I don't think I would do.

[Moses]

You would have to do it like if I.

[Oscar Gracie]

The main problem with the Glenbot is most people don't know the timing of it because there's the fast and the slow motion. Most people do the movement in the. In the fast and they miss the slow motion. Like in the slow motion they're just like static slowly moving.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

They don't know like that's where the dress supposed to fly like 100 miles per hour.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you really just like it's done.

[Moses]

I keep seeing Taylor's. Taylor Swift's at the Grammys comes up a lot lately too because she did like, she did like a laugh. And then someone quote tweeted like the behind the scenes like cold posted and was like. You can tell she instantly regretted that. And it's so true. It's so true. She was like, like, oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

She literally like yeah. What's that? Yeah. Cuz hers was like.

[Moses]

Yeah, the big old. Like, it looked crazy. It looked wild. It's hard. You could be the most gorgeous person and still look a little wild in it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Haley Bailey always eats the glam bot. She always looks really good in it.

[Oscar Gracie]

But she did a spoof about JLo too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's always, always doing a spoof. I mean, I just think that's like, not a good person. I. Cole was trying to defend for his life being like, it's chaotic and.

[Oscar Gracie]

It just shows you that she's not a team player. Like, if she was, they would just drop it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

But the fact that now he's even in. They. She treated him bad and put him in hot waters. Release a hostage video of like, everything was great. She's fine. You know, you don't know what she's going through. She was just walking by and she.

[Trisha Paytas]

Doesn'T know she was away from me, unfortunately. That's it. Yeah. No, she. And then he's like, thank you. Nothing. Just.

[Moses]

Yeah. His direct statement was, I didn't take it personally. I didn't feel rude in that moment. He explained that glam bots are elective and they're not. No one is forced to do it. So anyone who chooses to do it, he is great with. And he said, when people are distracted or less chatty or thinking about other stuff, I don't take it personally. Which I guess I could play devil's advocate. Carpets are crazy. It's not going on. I guess she was. She came to the Golden Globes when the carpet was already closed. So she was like, late to get in. I'm not taking sides. I'm merely just stating the. The other side.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think there is no. Especially on red carpet. Doesn't you gotta be extra nice.

[Moses]

I do agree. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hi. Hi. Just like, knowing I'm worried everyone's gonna, like, read our lips or something. I'm always just like watching everything we say, everything we do on our two red carpets. We've done it wicked. But you just never know. Especially the Lincoln. Was that where we're. Lincoln center where people are like, watching you from above. You're just like, oh, we gotta be on our best behavior. That's just such a weird thing to go into and just be like, true.

[Moses]

Yeah. Standoffish or. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think because it is. Does that say hi or thank you is insane. It's one thing to have. Be having a bad day, but like you said, it's elective. You can just keep on walking JLo. Go right into those doors that you're late for. You do not have to stop. Yeah, you're gonna be.

[Moses]

I feel you, you know, And I.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think even if you don't say anything, eye contact and a smile goes a long way. Like a long wrong way. Just to acknowledge somebody with that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Nothing.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think she was really your hot topic.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like that you didn't even talk. We never talked about that together.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because our time is so precious. We didn't waste it on JLo.

[Moses]

Although after that, people went back and have exposed their interactions with Cole. Oh, people. I guess I've emailed and DM before about like having the glampa at their weddings or their events. So people have been like bringing up their interactions with Cole, saying that Cole has also been rude to them, allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my gosh. Everybody okay?

[Oscar Gracie]

Too much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Doesn't matter. This is an instance where Jayla was, okay, so what was his alleged.

[Moses]

The big one. There's been a few people dming asking about like, how much it would be to book and like his immediate response in emails and DMS is like, well, there's a reason that it's only at the Grammys or the Oscars. Basically saying right off the bat it's like out of their budget. It and just assuming that they're too broke to. To book the glam bot. One email was, hi Yinka, thanks for reaching out. Just you're aware the Glambot is a camera system and person and personnel used by network television station for one of the biggest red carpets event of the year. It is not cheap. If you feel like something like this might be within your budget range, I'm happy to discuss further. And she was like, yeah, like this is in my budget range. And he says, I don't see how you could. How it could be. Since I didn't say how much it was and it could be between ten thousand and a million dollars. And she's like, yeah, I just assumed it was very pricey since it was at the Oscars. So what are the steps to book? Would you be the person that comes or is there other people that works? What's the rundown? And then he's just like kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

The whole time you think it's real.

[Oscar Gracie]

But the thing is like, so many people inquire, especially when you're that famous, like you get those emails, inquiries and they're not even going anywhere, but just don't respond.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then I don't respond to like, so.

[Oscar Gracie]

So isn't it nice to even respond like, just kind of try to. Try to fish to see what. Because. Because once you have an interaction, you can tell. But to me, it doesn't sound real because the way they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because why would he be like, yeah, because I didn't give you a budget. Could be 10,000 to a million. Like, when people ask for the Birkin, I never was like, could be 10,000, could be a million. Can you afford that, loser? Like, you know what I mean? It sounds a little made up.

[Oscar Gracie]

I do have, like, sometimes people reach out to me about artwork and I can tell immediately from the email if they're serious or not. So that's. That's the difference. Because it's like if she. If the person emailed him and be like, I have this event and this date and I wanted to know what the. Like, it start. It's real. You can sense immediately that the inquiry is real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

When somebody is just like, oh, so what. What does it mean to hire you? Like, what do you mean, what does it mean? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And has pretty big representation. He's a pretty big agent.

[Moses]

This was back in 2019. Oh, she's like, doing it, I think, still big, but obviously Tik Tok, I feel like, made it even more of a thing on social media. Like, the glamboard's always kind of been a thing, but once TikTok, it kind of blew up even more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, not stuff. I mean, private emails. Like, if it's real. Like, I mean, yeah. And like, he said, maybe like annoyed. He's like. But I guess he just answer his own emails. Why he, like, elevated or whatever. But there's like a difference between, like, private emailing someone, like, you can't afford this. Like, JLo just being a. You know, it's not like he just like, spit in this person's face. He wasn't just like, you don't ever email me. You know what I mean? I mean, it's like, I don't know. I think it's a little different. I also think it's like, not like it doesn't have anything to do with what's happening, but I guess.

[Oscar Gracie]

And why is it surfacing up now?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's what I'm saying. She's doing too much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually. Me too. I had this.

[Oscar Gracie]

Maybe she was back back then. That's why she's upset with him now. Oh, because he was rude to her back then.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's one theory. Wow.

[Moses]

We love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, the worst Glambot. Well, you go back was Andrew Garfield's where he's like, leaning forward and Coming back. Have you seen that one?

[Moses]

No. I don't know if I've seen Andrews.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see. I actually haven't seen either. I was surprised that was number one because Joey King was like number four. There's all these bad ones.

[Moses]

Oh, I forgot about this one. I actually loved it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's kind of cute.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

I mean, it does look crazy, but I love how crazy it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not terrible.

[Moses]

Again, it kind of gives trolley to me. Like, he's like, I'm just gonna. Like, he's laughing at the end of.

[Trisha Paytas]

It, like, knowing that it's, like, crazy.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It's kind of silly, goofy. That's kind of the vibe that I would probably. I'll change my answer. I'll reheat the Andrew Garfield nachos. Then I guess if you're gonna recreate one, you might as well go for the worst ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll go stand in line at the award show. Whatever award show we go to together, we'll go stand in line for it. I wonder if you can get there early. You know how, like, Danny gets early and so, like, I wonder if you get there early, can Denny get. Go do the glam?

[Moses]

I think so, because I've never seen.

[Trisha Paytas]

It set up yet. Maybe.

[Moses]

Yeah. I feel like even Cole's like, I'm not gonna, you know, waste my time. Like, I'm getting the heavy hitters, not beating those.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Nasty. Waste my time with that. But that is very red carpet vibes. He seems to be. His response was nice. He was trying his best to defend.

[Moses]

Yeah. Hudson Williams. I liked his glam bot, too. At the Golden Globes, he just flipped off the camera, which I thought was funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love him.

[Moses]

I know. I do too. Did you see his. He made his debut. His Runway debut. And I'm, like, kind of obsessed with it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

I love. Okay. He made the. His Runway debut in D squared twos. You just pronounced D squared, I would think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so.

[Moses]

Okay. Milan Fashion Week show. And the theme of the show, I mean, they're Canadian designer, so the theme was, like, sports, like winter sports and hockey and stuff. So it made sense that he would open the show. His walk was diabolical, and it made me love him even more. I love it. I think it just odds against him. Like, he was wearing these, like, kind of almost like ski or snowboarding boots, which already, like, hard to walk in. And if we're not like. I mean, it's his first Runway. He's not, like, trained and walking the catwalk So I think everything was kind of working against him. But to me, it made me love him more because he's already hot. So that, like, it would almost be too much if he was like a good walker and hot.

[Oscar Gracie]

Right.

[Moses]

So the fact that it was like a little awkward was like, it was so cute to me. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's very cutesy too. I really. I'm really seated for this. I like that. I like that he's also getting his notary because I think everyone's talking about Connor for so long, right?

[Moses]

I feel like, yeah, maybe Connor at first, but at the Golden Globes, like, they did like a data anal. There was like a data analyze and data analyst that covered the tweets of, like, who was talked about the most. Number one was Lisa, obviously, at the Golden Globes, and number two was Hudson. And then Connor was number four.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. So people are.

[Moses]

Yeah. So Hudson is kind of taking over right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

But there was a. Do you go to the heated rivalry rave last night in West.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I did know about it.

[Moses]

I saw. I think the company that hosted it has done for other, like, pop culture moments. Like, I went to an Olivia Rodrigo Theme 1 When she, like, was just coming up, like, post drive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it fun?

[Moses]

It is fun. It's just like the music and then they played like videos, they project videos, and it's just like a good time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Devin went. He was. We were doing that Loveline. He's like, I gotta leave by seven. He did rag rave. I was like, what is that? Sounds fun.

[Moses]

Yeah, that is fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

I should have gone. I would have gone. I wasn't invited, but I probably would have gone to something like that. That kind of sounds like something I would enjoy, you know?

[Moses]

Does it? Yeah, I feel like in theory, but I think it would be time. I'd be like, okay, trash, we're ready to go to the heated rivalry rave. And you'd be like, actually, we don't have a.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I was getting cute yesterday. If I had like full glam, I might be like. And we didn't have a sitter yesterday because I had a. I had a long day. I went from like 7am to like 9pm trying being an influencer for a day on a Sunday. And I was thinking about that. And then towards the end of it, I saw my glam on and I.

[Oscar Gracie]

Was like, you know what?

[Trisha Paytas]

I could actually go out right now. I could. I could have a little. A little something.

[Moses]

There was another heated rivalry escondalo, I guess, because there was a speculation that Connor Story was dating his heated rivalry co star Francois Arnaud. And this is all truly speculation, and I feel like is something that, like, a group of people, like, made up and then got offended by because there literally is, like, no real proof of them dating. But it. It's hitting again. There's like, a sector of the heated rivalry stance that's, like, very intense and, like, kind of parasocial. And I get it because I was parasocial in my youth as well. But the fans. This group of fans only ships Connor with Hudson in real life because of their characters. So the fans were really mad that Francois and Connor, there was one photo of them, like, leaving a party in New York together, and they were just like, literally, that's it. Just leaving together. And then over the weekend, there was another, like, a photo booth photo of them, like, looking cozy together that I don't even think is real. It kind of looks like AI to me. It's like, it's hard to tell. Yeah. Because it's them kind of, like, looking lovingly at each other. But it's weird that this will just come out in the middle of everyone speculating if they're a couple or not. But because people are very protective over Conor, this fandom turned on Francois and started calling him because there's also an age gap. Connor's 26, Francois 40. Francois come out and has been out as bisexual. Connors has never come out as straight or gay or bi or anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

So there's a lot of, like, projection there. But the fans have called Francois a groomer. A PDF file.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like, he's been getting death threats. He had to unfollow the whole cast on Instagram, and he even had to, like, in an interview, make a statement about the fans attacking him because of them being upset that the speculation that he could be dating Connor, which is so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's a character in the show.

[Moses]

He's an actor in the show. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's he play?

[Moses]

He has his own, like, love story.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

One of the. With another actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were there characters ever crossed paths?

[Moses]

No, it's like. I mean, he's in it. I also. I've still only seen episodes one and two.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

And his arc comes, like, later on with one of the other actors. But it's so crazy that the fandom would turn against a star of the same show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess they really want the leads together.

[Moses]

Yeah, they really see them together. But, like, the whole show is about, like, you know, this couple that's Kind of. That has to like have a romance in secret because the public is going to scrutinize it and not be able to accept it. And then to have like the fans of the show completely ignore that message that the show, that the show is trying to like, represent wow to and to go to the level of like giving the star and like their friend death threats is like so wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love all these fandoms. Oh, I'm not. Not excusing it.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's like that's how fandoms really do work. People get so mad.

[Moses]

I. It's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And do the stars say anything to Connor? Say anything and they stop doing this. Stop the speculation.

[Moses]

Hudson and Connor haven't said anything. It's just been. Francois spoke out about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what did he say?

[Moses]

He said he did an interview and he talked about the death threats that he received over his alleged relationship. He said in general, fans have been incredibly positive and respectful. This was to the Toronto Star. He said, for the ones that aren't. I think it's a lot of younger fans who don't really understand the difference between reality and fiction. I honestly wish they would just re watch the show because it doesn't seem like they got its message. Pay attention more closely. Did we watch the same show? Which I think is like a nice way to put it. It classy. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is all about openness.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And no judgmental.

[Moses]

And it's just so crazy because people were so mad at Jordan first men, like when it was Peter rivalry took off because he was saying like, well, he was speculating about their sexuality, whatever. And then now you're doing the same thing to Connor because Connor hasn't come out as anything and now speculating that he's dating his co star and getting mad. It's like, it's so. It's just such a, like, contradiction of like what the whole phenomenon stands for. It's kind of wild. But yeah, the heated rivalry stands. Like I said. I feel like every standom has its like the one, the group that takes it too far. But I feel like you're really affecting. If you're really affecting the actors that you love lives, then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, how does that not clock to you? But I don't know. Yeah, because it's like you literally are like making their lives harder. But like you're, you're a fan. Like you're the number one supporter, but you're making life hell for them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like that so many people when they're fans of someone, but like, did we talk about this? Where they, like, don't like their partner? And it's like, we can't be a fan of someone if you're, like, hating on.

[Moses]

True. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Talk about that with. I feel like.

[Moses]

I mean, it kind of comes up pretty frequently. I feel like with Taylor and Maddie Healey, everyone. Me included. Hayden, Matty Healey and her together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Ariana, I feel like, obviously gets a lot with, like, Ethan Slater or even Ari's, like, the section of fans who were, like, mad at Ariana for being too Glinda and, like, being blonde and not being, like, the baddy singer Ariana, you know, so it does happen a lot when I. God, I forgot who was saying this, but there's, like, a section of fans that, like, your fans can be, like, your biggest haters, which I think Ariana talked about this in a podcast or something with, like, your fans who love you the most can be the meanest to you. It's so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're like, okay, but if you, like, love me. That's true. You know this. It does remind me. I think it was, like, 2003 or 2004 when Wicked first started on Broadway, and I was, like, weirdly parasocial with, like, everyone I would see on Broadway. I, like, look them up and, like, everything kind of before, like, Instagram and all that stuff. Just, like, what they're doing. And I remember the actor who originated Fiyero Norbert Leah Burt's butts. Like, you know, Fiero ends up with, like, Elphaba. Spoiler alert. And you're like, oh, they'd be so cute together. And I always thought, like, Idina Menzel and him or whatever. They thought maybe him and Kristin Chenoweth then come to find out he was dating Nessa Rose in the show and they got married and had kids. And I remember being like, no, I was so. I was pissed, too. And I remember, like, Fiyera wouldn't end up with Mesa Rose. She's the Wicked Witch of the East. You know what I mean? Like, she. And she was wicked. She wasn't like Elphaba. And I remember being really upset about it. So. Same thing with Michael Jackson, Debbie Rowe. I remember being like, I could have done that. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like she never had his best interest at heart. So I guess when you're, like, young, I guess you're just like, you just don't get it. Hence why you shouldn't be, like, making decisions and anything, because your brain just doesn't. You're In a weird, weird world. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

Yeah. I mean even Harry Styles, like I feel like he is peak. My. My peak parasocialism when he was dating Kendall Jenner. I was like, no, like absolutely not. Like just this can't be. But also I wasn't going to Kendall and like being like, die Kendall.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Social media makes it more like weirdly aggressive.

[Moses]

Yeah. I feel like again it's one of those things like yeah, you know, talk to, you know, your group chat, but then don't go to that person and be like, you should unalive yourself. Like that's kind of crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone who dates Kendall was a bad bunny too. Everyone's like, like she was just on Owen Theo's podcast. Like everyone thinks I'm a lesbian. And it's like because everyone just wants you to. I guess everyone just hates you with anybody. So she's probably so scared to say anybody she's dating because they just get. Could you imagine dating someone that just gets so much hate just cuz they're dating you? I'm not a candle, like super fan, but it is seem crazy, you know, it's like poor, poor Kendall. Oh my God, she can never go public again. Oh, that's what I was going to say. I remember I was going to say Kim's Miss Live. That's what I was thinking of. I was in this. I don't know if I told you this. I don't think I told you. This is how we don't talk. You.

[Oscar Gracie]

You told Tana and I heard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yes. Oh my gosh. I was.

[Moses]

Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shooting yesterday at OBB Studios. You know what that is?

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I think it's Justin Bieber Studios because everything was Justin Bieber and Haley Bieber and Road everywhere just like wrote everything and it was like really booze. It was like the fanciest like studio I've ever been to. And everything was so fancy. They had like Justin Bieber world tour merch. And I was, oh, I'm like, can I get, Can I buy some of that? Like just take it. There was like very bougie. Yeah. Like this fancy store and like just take it. Everything was fancy. And I was like, wow, this is a production. Like I really thought it was like gonna be me and like a camera and there's like 50 people that was like production. And again it's like Sunday at like 8am and I was like, oh, this is a production. And then I was wearing my skims robe that I wore my pink one on here. And I wore it for that. And I guess this skims. And I was like, yeah. And they're like, we did Kim's Miss Live here.

[Moses]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's a really bougie studio where it's like you have to be like, invite only and you have to, like, know someone and stuff like that. And so when they said that, I was like, so gagged, I was like, oh, my gosh. So I do feel, because we were talking about Trisha Wein, that's what I was trying to take as. Like Kim says, I do feel aligned. I also feel very aligned with Justin Bieber because everything was Justin Bieber themed yesterday. And I was like, any Bieber? Yeah. Like, I could be friends with them. I could be in this road mix because there was road lip balm. What is it? What's the big one?

[Moses]

The peptide.

[Trisha Paytas]

Peptide. Yes. There was that. There was the road water. Have you seen Kylie Jenner promote this on Tick Tock? It's like a jelly. Have you seen. And she eats it. Have you seen it?

[Oscar Gracie]

No. I just heard promote her 200 ice.

[Moses]

Oh, I got that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I ordered one.

[Oscar Gracie]

There's one on TikTok Shop.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's one on TikTok.

[Oscar Gracie]

One of my Hot Topics last week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it the one? Was it? That's so random. Is it the one? The one I got on TikTok Shop is like you, you. You put something in your mouth so you can breathe and then you dunk your head.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it. Is that hurts too? Such a smart idea, actually, because I was thinking like, because how long are you supposed to put it in there for? Do we know?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think the time you can hold your breath is all the time you want to be in that ice water.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you don't have to hold your breath.

[Moses]

Can you just get a little snorkel with her?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think you want to stay that smudge.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it is a snorkel. I think that's what it is, is you hold it in your mouth and then it goes up. I wonder how long you were supposed to put your face in there for. I did order one of those. I'm really excited about that, actually. I think someone. Well, someone in here told me to do that last week. Right.

[Moses]

We didn't say to order the 200 snorkel, but we did say, try it. Try it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Do the morning routine. I said it. We could all do it. We gotta do a little face dunk before the WB be. Oh, we should do the no Hate campaign. That Day, too.

[Moses]

I do love the idea of the no hate campaign. We should get the heated rivalry boys to do it with us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, Call them. What if I did them?

[Moses]

Like, hi, do you want to do the no hate campaign?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then I had the little object I sent you, that one where I didn't know they were, like, holding objects. Would you do your Emmy?

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. Very Kathy Griffin did the. Yeah, she held her Emmy for her no hate campaign. Which Love.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it was like Megan McCain was horning like an elephant. Elephant.

[Moses]

Love that. Back then, she was doing no hate campaign. I wonder if she would do it now. And.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that. Yes, right. Interesting. But why an elephant?

[Moses]

Because she's Republican, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's not why she was holding it. Campaign. She's like, here.

[Moses]

Even Republicans love gays, I guess. I don't know. Well, she does. She clapped with RuPaul's Drag Race before, so. Yeah. Who knows? She's a little all over the place, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know what I would. What would you hold?

[Moses]

I guess you would have to do the Birkin. You would have to.

[Oscar Gracie]

You have awards, too. One of your awards.

[Trisha Paytas]

Until we get that Emmy, you need two Emmys so you can have the balance of it. What would you hold?

[Oscar Gracie]

A glass of water.

[Moses]

Okay, yeah, I see that. Or I was thinking water or like, tin fish.

[Oscar Gracie]

Those.

[Moses]

It would have to be one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow, you're so good with the branding. I know. I was thinking about that for Jimmy Chan, the Gold Church, me whole.

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess there is a little bit of a hate on tin fish. So no hate for Tish.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not the campaign, babe.

[Oscar Gracie]

Not it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you parasocial with anyone? I was going ask you that earlier.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, you. I guess that's good.

[Moses]

That's a good answer.

[Trisha Paytas]

He. He's posting every day.

[Moses]

He really is more than you.

[Trisha Paytas]

He tells me that, too. He's like, there's. You never did a direct call to action. I was like, I did my spaghetti one every day.

[Oscar Gracie]

This is our practice for running for office. We can't get the votes on High Heart Radio.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're never going to live that down. Everyone ever.

[Oscar Gracie]

Did you vote? I'm talking to you. Yeah. Did you vote today?

[Trisha Paytas]

The Congress thing is the new Queen Elizabeth thing. Like, I really tried to escape. Like, I did a big shoot yesterday and like, oh, we could tie it into, like, you writing for Congress. I'm like, no. And then when Dan was here, like, can I do a tik tok about.

[Moses]

Trying to, like, oh, yeah, bury that one there, Austin. And Christian were saying they wanted you and Hassan to talk about running for your congressional run too. I was like, work would love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That sounds terrifying. Absolutely not. Never would happen. My gosh.

[Moses]

Just like, let me sound like your worst nightmare.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just jump in there on my period, you know? Awesome. So I know people were emailing me, the craziest people, too. And I was just like, I know. No, I wouldn't even say some of these big commentators. And I was like, absolutely not. This sounds.

[Oscar Gracie]

This is the most emails I've got on a subject. You know, when we.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Talk about something.

[Trisha Paytas]

2012, Mitt Romney, Larry King having me on, and the young turks. Actually.

[Moses]

Young turks.

[Trisha Paytas]

There it is. I mean, like, look at this dumbass. Back then I was, like, loving it. I was like, yeah, I'm so dumb. But now I'm like, ah, scary. No, I think. Yeah. Again, once it goes back to. Once you have kids, you need to, like, not be a troll alone. It was never meant to be a troll. It was meant to be.

[Moses]

You were. Yeah. You put it in the VIP section of your reminders. That's how genuine it was.

[Oscar Gracie]

What?

[Moses]

And you. I think it was on the Patreon. You were like, I need to put this in my, like, my VIP section. In my, like, reminder list so I don't forget.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Wait, what?

[Moses]

Running for Congress.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I did. You're right.

[Moses]

You're right. That's in 2026. So you can't blame 2025.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

What a way to say start the year, you know? Can you do something crazy so we can just all talk about that? Say something wild.

[Moses]

I know. I didn't steal the spot.

[Oscar Gracie]

I try every time, but you guys cut it off.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I love that. It was like, oh, you want to go? No, you definitely don't. Say something crazy. Go back to Oscar. Always. I'm always like, let me make that note. Jimmy knows now. Like, Jimmy, just use your best judgment on censorship. We're for it here. No, it was like, right after. Then, like, Spencer and then it was like Farrah Abraham, like, perfect. Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anything you would like to announce?

[Oscar Gracie]

You running for any position, anywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would be great. You should. Nowhere.

[Moses]

No, I'm not running for anything currently, but I'll let you know if I decide. I'm trying to think if there's even like a. No, I have nothing to campaign for really, at this time. I do. This isn't until the end of the year, but I do want to win at the. The streamer awards. That's what they're Called yes, maybe the Glambot. I'll do the streamer awards. Glambot. And I want to campaign for best hidden Gem Award at the Stream Awards, but I feel like I have some time for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that a real category?

[Moses]

It's a real category.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who won last year?

[Moses]

I forget her name, but she does puzzle. It's like an older lady and she does puzzles. And I kind of live for her. I didn't know who she was, but I live for her. I also don't watch a lot of streamers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Best hidden gem of the Internet of.

[Moses]

Like, like the streamer world. Like who's streaming and like, you know, it's like an up and comer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. That's why they need to go to Oscar Gracie on YouTube and find. Just ask her. Gracie. I love that. How do we get you nominated?

[Moses]

I guess I'll start my campaign closer to that, to the end of the year. I think I'll just text Cutie and be like, can I get some nepotism and get a nomination? I mean, I might just have to steal the. Steal the.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses]

Yeah, because it's fan voted. I guess maybe I'll hire Moses to run the campaign too. I could also look into that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It. He put it. The link in the bio. Instagram makes graphics for it like he is on it.

[Moses]

So I might have to. I might have to steal you for that.

[Oscar Gracie]

But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, when is that? December?

[Moses]

Yeah, it'll be December. So maybe like October I'll begin the campaign. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

My sister's birthday is coming up this week and I was like, maybe I should go stream with her.

[Moses]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did that last year. I think I brought her pizza on her stream because I was like, what do you want to do for birthday today? I'm streaming for 24 hours. Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah, she's dedicated.

[Trisha Paytas]

She loves a stream. I don't know if that's in the. In the. Do you know Neon? Yeah, the streamer.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah, you must know him.

[Moses]

No, I don't know any streamers. Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't know Neon?

[Moses]

No, I only know girls and that's it. And then whenever, like at Ted's party, they're all streamers, obviously. So they were like just saying, giving tea on all these names and I'm like, I have no idea who you're talking about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? You're pulling a Traders? We're like, I don't know any of these people there. Yeah.

[Moses]

I'm like, work. I'm like, who do we. Like who do we don't like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just don't watch Traders.

[Moses]

No. But I'm caught up, if that makes sense. Like, I'm caught. I. I read the updates and I know what's going on, but I haven't been watching.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why don't you just watch it then? If you're reading the updates?

[Moses]

It is long. That and there's. It's long now. Okay, I guess. Spoiler. Spoiler warning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spoilers are coming. Spoilers are coming. Get out now. Spoiler alert. Three, two, one. Spoiler warning.

[Moses]

Jimmy also said, like, he texted me. He's like, now I'm watching Traders as soon as it drops so I don't get spoiled.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, you have. Sorry, same. I can't go on Twitter without seeing a spoiler or Moses sees a spoiler. He's like, we. I didn't think we. I didn't think he watched it because we watched it together. So I was like, oh, he's not gonna know the spoilers. We were like making a tick tock. He's like, oh, wait till the end of this episode. Do you know a spoiler and didn't tell me? Like, you hate spoilers.

[Oscar Gracie]

There were so many. There's so many tik toks about Michael Rapaport. And the ones that gets me is how he eats. He literally puts the plate in his mouth and then shoves the food over. I'm like, do you have a problem? Like, like anyway, what's he known for?

[Trisha Paytas]

We were trying to figure that out. Me and Moses were like, what's his thing?

[Moses]

I can't tell you.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I think. No, but he's a stand up commentator. He's a comedian.

[Trisha Paytas]

A comedian? I don't think so.

[Moses]

I've never.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think he's like an agent comedian. Like his name, not as relevant as used to be, but I think he.

[Moses]

He comments for sure. He comments on things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I just see him on Tik Tok. Right? Like someone said he just screams on Tik Tok.

[Oscar Gracie]

Now you told me that, right? No, I told you like now. Now that's what he does. But no, he used to be a comedian. Like stand up sitcoms.

[Moses]

And he. If he was filling in for Wendy on the Wendy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always knew.

[Moses]

I just saw a clip of that on Twitter. People were like, what the hell was.

[Trisha Paytas]

He doing filling in for like weeks at a time? He'd be there for Wendy. And we're like, who the is this?

[Moses]

Yeah, I truly have no clue. Industry plant kind of. Yeah. I mean, everyone's saying now because he's friends with Andy Cohen. That's how he got this one. But wild, because he really is just, like, unwatchable. I mean, now he's gone.

[Trisha Paytas]

But how does any Cohen get a say on Traders?

[Moses]

It's a. I mean, he hosts the reunion and it's a NBC production. And Andy is like, a producer at Bravo, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he doesn't own it. I'm so confused what he does. He doesn't own Bravo. He's just a producer.

[Moses]

He's a producer. Yeah. And I'm assuming executive now. He kind of is the face of Bravo, so, I mean, he was always a producer on Housewives, then he was hosting the reunions and he became like, kind of like the Godfather of Real Housewives franchise.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why isn't he on it?

[Moses]

I guess maybe he's too big because he helps the reunion. So I feel like maybe he's, like, too famous. Yeah, that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I always wonder about that, too. Is like Dancing the Stars used to be like the show way back in the day where people be, like, up. That's where you go. Where.

[Moses]

Yeah. When you're washed up.

[Trisha Paytas]

But now I feel like it kind of like, makes careers.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kind of like, flipped around. I saw, you know, dancing stars. You know anything about it? You follow any of the pros?

[Moses]

Yeah, no, not the pros, but I know of it because I cover it. Never watch.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Robert Irwin's partner went down to visit him at the Australian zoo.

[Moses]

Oh, that's so cute. It was so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Holding a. Yeah. Okay, See you now.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was so random.

[Moses]

I made, like, every Robert Irwin video. I know Whitney with no H. I know how to spell. I know everything. She has a kid. Yes. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She took her. Took the kid down to the zoo.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were holding koalas. I really would love to do an Australian trip.

[Moses]

Oh, would love.

[Trisha Paytas]

So fun. Right? And gesture. In Australia. The koalas are so good. And everyone's like, they got Chlia. It's like, shut up. So do you. You know what I mean? It's like, who cares? But I love. They were just so cute. She was holding him and it was so cute. They were, like, dancing in the little jungle. And I was like, oh, this is. Maybe give Robert Irwin a show. He is kind of, like, lovable. I, like, love him. I don't think about him, but he looks very.

[Moses]

I mean, I don't know if the Irwin still have a show. They had shows post Steve, obviously, for a long time. But yeah, I mean, the whole Irwin family is just like, the most precious thing in the world.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you know what's just not related, but kind of related is like what's crazy me is like my brother sent me a video of him like swimming with stingrays. And it's like they just offer that in like destination locations.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like I. Not to be whatever, but like, I mean, I get it. Animals like, whatever. But like if you know they can sting you and kill you, why would you go in there with them?

[Moses]

I mean, what happened to Steve Irwin really was like a freak accident though. For real. But I mean, people still swim with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sharks and that part too. I would never. I've been a board bar, like get in there with the shark sharks and. But even so, was it an influencer that got their arm bitten off? Like someone was just doing like a Bora Bora or Bahamas or something? Like where you just go in with all like those little baby sharks that aren't supposed to like bite you and then I think it was like an influencer or someone did get their arm bitten off in one of those.

[Moses]

I have no idea. I mean, I'm sure it definitely happened.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I like, don't blame the animals. I really am just like. But why are we like going into like the shark infested waters?

[Moses]

No, I'm with you there for sure. I. I get the idea of it because I love sharks and would like to see them like in the ocean, but I would never go in there at the same time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, even the cage.

[Moses]

I wouldn't even go in the cage.

[Trisha Paytas]

What cage?

[Moses]

You know, like the cage diving. No, like when you do great white. When you swim with great whites, they put you in the shark cage.

[Oscar Gracie]

So you're in a cage.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what is the. What do you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

One time that the shark jumped into the cage.

[Moses]

Yeah, there was one time that happen. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm saying, I mean, I don't blame.

[Oscar Gracie]

The shark, but this stink rays, not all of them have venom, but in general they don't use it. Like they're not using it to attack a prey. They use it as a defense mechanism. So if you're swimming with them, they're not being attacked. Like they're not feeling threatened or attacked.

[Trisha Paytas]

If you get stunned by one, like in the leg. Are you okay? Cuz I know Steve's was the heart rate.

[Moses]

Yes. That's why I like punctured his heart. That's why it really was like a freak accident. For sure.

[Oscar Gracie]

There's very different levels of venom in this Jin Gray family.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh gosh. That really is so sad. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I guess people like to swim with them, but, like, I guess if they're okay, like, I mean, I guess most animals are okay with you swimming in their ocean with them.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I guess that they seem tame. Like, my brother's holding a stingray, and I was like, what the. Like, I mean, they're beautiful. They're cool. I like it. But, like, Sea World, you know, like, there's one of me with, like, a beluga whale, and it's just like. I don't know if they, like, really. They want to be hugging me, you know?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I loved it. I was like, well, like.

[Moses]

And at the aquarium, you can pet stingrays, but their stingers are clipped. It's kind of like a toenail, basically. They trim it. No, it's like they literally compare it to, like, the clipping of a fingernail or something, because it'll grow back and then just clip it so they can't actually sting you. But, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I just try not to mess with anyone's hair, you know, the dolphins, too. I mean, I've done it all, but. But you just never know. And then when the wild animals, like, become wild, people get like, oh, my God, I can't believe they did that. And you're like, well, where would you rather do? Would you rather swim with sharks or go into the gorilla habitat, the San Diego Zoo?

[Moses]

Swim with sharks?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, just out in the open?

[Moses]

Yeah. I mean, not even, like, any. What kind of sharks? You're being so vague.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you jump off a boat and there's some sharp sharks in the water and you're swimming with the sharks.

[Moses]

I guess I'd be more afraid of gorillas. I mean, I'm afraid of both, but, like, I would if I had to pick one. I'd be more afraid of the gorillas, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know. I love a gorilla. I love the idea.

[Moses]

I mean, I like seeing them, but I wouldn't want to like, be, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses]

Face to face.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think of that one, too, was a Harambe, and it was just like.

[Moses]

Well, there was just a horror movie that came out last week called Primate, about a serial killer chimpanzee limp. And so I'm extra suspicious of.

[Trisha Paytas]

You watched it?

[Moses]

No, but. Because I heard it was, like, really, really gory. Like, very. Like just over the top gory. So I'm already a little suspicious of apes like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, yeah, I saw someone was doing a book Club of Wuthering Heights. Like someone famous. Who was that? Like, right after we did Hot Topic.

[Moses]

I got my copy.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did?

[Moses]

Yes. I should have brought it today. I got. It was like, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one did you get to get? A fancy one?

[Moses]

I bought the one that had Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi on the COVID.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I loved it, but I didn't see it. Where'd you get it?

[Moses]

I got it on Amazon, but it was a. I didn't know it was like the big, like text one. So it is giving chopped in because the tax is like 20 point and it's like five sentences on a page. But I kind of live. It's humongous because it's like a million pages with like literally five words on the page.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's kind of.

[Moses]

I like the COVID We got to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Work it literally right after we talked about it that day. Someone famous is like, this is our next book club or book. Gosh. Who was it? Not Oprah, but like an Oprah type, like Reese Witherspoon. I'm trying to think of someone with a book club. Something like that. Yes. Did she have a book club?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you pay or.

[Moses]

Emma Roberts has a book club as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if it was, but I love that.

[Moses]

But like, sometimes they'll post the books, like, they'll. They'll like, you know, make a book popular, then it gets republished and it's like. Like Reese's book club selection. Or like Emma Roberts book club selection.

[Trisha Paytas]

We gotta find a. Well, you're good at finding books that are kind of niche, not out there yet. So we need to find one that's, like, not possible.

[Moses]

Heated Rivalry, number one book.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that what you're reading? I'm up to Twilight.

[Moses]

No. Yeah. No. I'm starting with Wuthering Heights. I've reworked my schedule, but Heated Rivalry has been literally sold out. Every. Actually, the Westlake Barnes and Noble is the only Barnes and Noble in LA that has it. Yeah. Yeah. Every other Barnes and Noble and Amazon is also sold out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Can you.

[Moses]

Of the physical book print more books? You would think, like, I think it's. It's so back ordered that like you. They're giving it away for free on Kindle. But now I'm back into like, I want physical media.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it too. Especially a book like, you just like love to open a book and read it with a little Matcha.

[Moses]

Well, yes. Love Matcha.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you?

[Moses]

I love Matcha. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you being serious?

[Moses]

I'm dead. Yes. I've Never been more serious. I love Matcha.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy. Reminds me David Dobrik.

[Moses]

I knew you were going to say that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy triggered. I've not been listening to his podcast, but immediately thought of him. We should do a video trying Matchas.

[Moses]

I love Matcha.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, there's a hello Kitty Matcha tomorrow. I'm just going down to Riverside and there's a hello Kitty matcha in San Bernardino that looks like hello Kitty and there's not even like a. A brick and mortem story. You just like pull up to someone's house and they make you.

[Moses]

Oh, that's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And it's like these really. The hello Kitties, I have to tell you, but the hello kitties are like made out of Matcha.

[Moses]

Love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm really debating. I'm supposed to be down there. Like, I have to be in at the Riverside location like 7am and this is out of the person's house. And usually it's like 11 to 5, they said. But I'm like, I wonder if they could like get up at like 5, make me that much. I really want it. That's the only time I'm gonna get it. And San Bernardino, Riverside, I think are pretty close to each other instead of 20 minutes from each other.

[Moses]

That sounds amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know you like Matcha.

[Moses]

Yeah, I love Matcha. My body wash is Matcha. My cologne is Matcha.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you tried Cece's Matcha souffle pancakes?

[Moses]

No, I had Matcha pancakes in Hawaii, though.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's a different name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, it's Lady C's. It's rebranded. Conjo Valley News Cafe is now Lady C's, but same honors, they said.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's right. It came up on my TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, we're still the same owners, but we're a new name. Why did they do that?

[Moses]

One way a good name, I guess.

[Oscar Gracie]

Trademark issues, you think they said? Oh, they did some kind of a trademark issue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. Well, we gotta try a Matcha Matcha everything day. Be fun. That'd be an exciting.

[Moses]

Yeah. I love Matcha.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do we do the no Hate campaign? We gotta get like a white wall. I guess you just do it. A white one. Just like really blow it out.

[Moses]

Yeah, it's like very exposed. I guess the flash is just like fierce on the camera. A lot of lights and a big.

[Trisha Paytas]

Flash and they just paint no Hate in the tape.

[Oscar Gracie]

Let's just put it. We have white backdrops. Oh, that's just pretty cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I've always wanted to do that and I Always wonder how people. Do you think people just did it on their own or. There was a certain photographer.

[Moses]

I think there was a certain photographer that was doing the whole thing that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Invited you to do it. Yeah.

[Moses]

And I think it was, I mean, dare I say original glambo. Like that's the moment, like everyone was doing it. That it was like the trend, you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Know, I think Ali and AJ did one for sure.

[Oscar Gracie]

Probably.

[Moses]

Yeah. It was like the thing to do. No, hate. It was like fierce. But I. I miss those days when it was so fierce to be woke. And it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I know. And everyone's like, yeah. And it. It was impactful. We should just recreate all the anti gay, gay, anti anti gay campaigns.

[Moses]

Let's recreate every anti gay, anti anti gay campaign.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so hard. What would that be called?

[Oscar Gracie]

Every anti homophobic minus and is a positive.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's so you're in support of.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't get it. Do you know who Shane Llamas is?

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lorenzo Lamas is her dad. Leva Talamis from 2009.

[Moses]

I was gonna say the name sounds.

[Trisha Paytas]

Familiar, but she was like on the Bachelor. She won anyways. They had like their own show. She was originally spoke. She went up against Blake Lively. It was her and Blake Lively as the top two contenders for Gossip Girl. What is the name of Blake Lively's character?

[Moses]

Serena Van Der Woodson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was her and her and Blake. She just did a 10 part story time on Tick Tock and I watched all 10 parts of it.

[Moses]

I did love when people talk about, like the roles that they didn't get. I think it's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me and all my mean girls.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to talk about my roles that I didn't get, but I guess, I guess we'll wait until they come out. I mean, that is, that is. That must be so hard to like be so close to a role. It's like, like Dove Cameron for Wicked or. Yeah, like Gossip Girl made Blake Lively. And then it's like, that could have been me.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was very sweet and humble. She's just like, wasn't meant for me. That was clearly her role. She was so good in it. But like, I feel like I could watch something like, oh, that. That would have been a role for me. You know, it must have been.

[Moses]

I mean, you do that with roles. You never were in contention.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's very true. I'm still really heard about only murders in the building. I'm like, oh, I could have been. Been Beanie Beline's. Character a pop star obsessed with pink. I was like, oh, my God, sign me up. That would have been so good. What was. It wasn't her name. The. The.

[Oscar Gracie]

The.

[Moses]

The.

[Trisha Paytas]

The. That was like, so me. I was not.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think if you meet her, she'll tell you it was loosely based on you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just every. There's a girl wearing pink. It's not a size 0. It's based on me. I love Bey Felstein, but between me and her, you know, Jo, so skinny. Everyone's giving him so much hate.

[Moses]

Oh, my God, that reminds me. No, but skinniness is a hot topic for me. And now I have a conspiracy now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Skinniness.

[Moses]

Yes. Because there was a study that shows weight loss drugs could save airlines money on fuel as America's. As Americans slim down. And it was like a company literally was paid to do, like, a study on how much money, like, airlines could save by the GLP1 craze. Because the amount of fuel it takes for a plane to get to and from a location is directly correlated to weight. Yeah. And like, the one factor that, like, airlines cannot control is, like, the weight of the. The customers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they can't weigh you.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like, that's the one thing. Like, obviously the weight of, like, the cargo and stuff, they can control, but they can't control the weight of, like, a passenger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my. I never thought about that. What if the plane goes down to fatties, like the elevators too, where there's just too many fatties?

[Oscar Gracie]

That's why they don't make bigger seats. They're like, we're not paying for that.

[Moses]

Oh, my God. Because airlines have always taken steps to keep aircrafts as light as possible and limit fuel consumption from serving pitless olives, which is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pit was olives. What do you mean they were serving that? Where were they serving that? And they're gonna take the pits out.

[Moses]

To using thin or light paper stock? Like, isn't that crazy? They think of the weight of everything. That is wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it it?

[Moses]

The quote says airlines have a long history of searching for unique methods to reduce the weight of an aircraft in term, reducing fuel consumption and limiting an airline's largest cost bucket. But they have no ability to limit how much passengers weigh. So the study said if weight loss drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy lead to a 10% slimmer society, the analysts found that would translate to a total airline passenger weight declining by 2%. For airlines, this means 1.5% in fuel savings plus a 4% boost to earnings per share.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

So an example that they use is the Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft. It weighs 99,000 pounds empty and can carry 46,000 pounds of fuel. So if it seats 178 passengers with an average weight of 180 pounds plus about 4,000 pounds of cargo, its total takeoff weight reaches 181,200 pounds.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

But if people slim down, it can drop to £177,996, which translates to 580 million in fuel savings annually. 580 million a year in savings. So now my conspiracy is, they want us skinny, you guys. They want it as skinny as possible. And guess what? Those prices are not going to go down for the airline. The prices are going to keep going up.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. It never goes down.

[Moses]

Exactly. Yeah. So now that I was like, wait, this is, like, such tea wild. I'm drinking the Shane Dawson tea right now. And I'm like, that is conspiracy. They want us as light and skinny as possible so they can continue to make money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there anything as under the weight limit for a plane? Like, what will happen if, like, will it just float? Like, you know what I mean? Can it ever come down?

[Moses]

Well, the plane itself, plus the cargo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Already is okay if there was no passengers on there. Because I was like, what if they're just to make us disappear completely and they're actually.

[Oscar Gracie]

It basically becomes a kite.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We're just so tiny. That is so wild.

[Moses]

Isn't that crazy?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

It really got me thinking.

[Oscar Gracie]

They also make money selling you the drugs.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Skinny. So they're making money on both ends.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Gosh, everything's so expensive.

[Moses]

Yeah. I was like, damn. I mean, I'm still going to be taking my GLP1s, but now it almost makes me consider getting bigger than ever.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just to, you know, to get your money's worth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just stick it to the man.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Moses]

To fight the power. Like, bigger than ever, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

The GLP1 craze is crazy. People are like. People are just skinny. Like, too skinny. Right? I mean, we can all say it. Everybody. I'm not saying one person. Like, everybody, everybody is, like, too skinny. As someone who's obviously too fat, I get. Okay. Like, it's. I think we can. I think we could say too skinny skinny, because you know what I mean? When we watch, like, System Life, like, we say, oh, that's too big. Like, you can't walk. But I see. I think there's. I think we can say there's people who are too skinny.

[Moses]

I suppose Yeah, I get a little scared meeting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so skinny. I know we talked about this last time and you're like, for people like us, I think it's okay to lose. But in my mind I'm like, what if you can't stop?

[Moses]

I know it's so hard because like I do, I don't want to say anybody's names, but there is one celebrity that I was like, it was like really startling.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's why I made my tick tock. I saw this one celebrity too and I, I was like, yeah.

[Moses]

And obviously there's like other elements is like with the celebrities going through grief and stuff too. So I'm like, especially. Let me not comment.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, but before even that. Well, yeah, yes, it was, it was terrifying.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But if I was 80 pounds next year, don't you think people would be rightfully concerned? Could you imagine if I'm just like, don't talk about me. It's like, what do you mean? Like, are you like just, are you okay? Because I, I, it's like right. If you're, if you were heavier at any point, you probably have somewhat of a food addiction more than just food noise. I know everyone's like, it blocks the food noise. And it's just like everyone who's already thin or whatever. Tana talks about GLP1s and how it blocks her food noise. Like, but like people who are truly big, like myself, like, you know, there's like a food addiction element there. So then I wonder, can you be addicted? You know how people say they go to the gym instead? Like now I'm addicted to the gym. Can you be addicted to a GLP one where it's like you just never eat again? Because that's right. Like it curbs your appetite. Be like, I forgot to eat, eat. So don't you, Are you just like not eating ever?

[Moses]

I think for some people, like the people who do lose like a really noticeable amount of body mass. Not just like fat, but like muscle and stuff too, I think. Yeah. But again for like I don't know the normal person.

[Oscar Gracie]

Cuz it is a ed, like it is a. Yeah. Disorder. And just like on one end of the spectrum you get a certain high. They get, get high too.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I thought it would just like regulate it's like sugar levels and stuff.

[Moses]

If you use it like the way that you're supposed to. Yes. But like everything, it can get, you know, abused for the wrong. I mean even like that's with every like substance. So like with Adderall, like That's an amphetamine. And people abuse it who, like, don't need it. And people like that can also make you not eat. And it can also just make you, like, wild and great. But for me, like, normal realizes and makes me a normal, functioning human being because, like, I need it. So it's just like, if your body doesn't need it, then it's obviously not going to do what it's doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Something different than what it's intended.

[Moses]

Yeah. And that's like, with literally any substance. You know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm still debating celebrating. It's really. It's really divided.

[Moses]

It is really divided.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are really just like, love it so much. Changed my life. So happy. And then other people are just like, couldn't be me. I. Maybe I'm the other person. No one else. I don't know. I don't know anyone else is still, like, anti it. But Jonah Hill, everyone's, like, hating on him for being skinny. That's the thing, right? It's like everyone's like, you're so fat, and then it's like, you lose weight. And I was like, oh, you look awful. You know what I mean? Like, it is crazy. Like, oh, I got him. Bobblehead, they call him like that. But what was he wearing? He was like, in a leopard. Did you see this one of him?

[Moses]

Yeah, that was from a while ago. I think he was filming a movie or something in that leopard outfit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'd wear that also wear that leopard outfit. It is becoming a little. A little crazy.

[Moses]

Yeah. And he's one. He had some allegations from his ex girlfriend, though, so I think that also made people have a dislike for him. And then now. Yeah, the change in appearance, was it even allegations?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it the same one as, like, she put out the text and then people were kind of like, well, at least he's honest with you. Or is it something different?

[Moses]

I think. Yeah, but it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, was it bad? I thought it was just, like, pretty bad. Oh, okay.

[Moses]

He was, like, very controlling and almost, like, abusive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Moses]

Yeah. About, like, her not even being seen with, like, another man or something. Yeah, it was. It was very controlling.

[Trisha Paytas]

She Neo on Cherry Shepherd. No, he was talking about his polyamorous relationship, which I'm like, don't. I like, don't knock him polyamorous. But he was. It was interesting. He was saying the same thing, how he was like, oh, so they're exclusive to you? He goes, well, I didn't ask for them to be. They want to be exclusive. But then, okay, can they do Other mind.

[Moses]

He's like, no, interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I guess I don't know how polyamory work. It seems a little unfair, But I guess maybe that's just how he has three girlfriends.

[Moses]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he was like. And Jason Driller recently talked about this, too, how they're just like, I'm just not meant to be monogamous. So I guess if you tell him. Because he's like, I told the girl. Neo said the girl. The woman he was with the longest. He told her. He's like, I just. I need other people. And then so now they're like a. Like a quadruple.

[Moses]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the comments are, like, pissed. But I mean, I guess if, like, people know about it, it's kind of like Nick Cannon, right? Like, I guess if you know that there's other families around.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah. And, like, obviously there's some relationships that are, like, open, too, and that's a whole other, like, dynamic. And everyone has, like, I don't know, different boundaries and stuff, I guess, until someone gets hurt. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

But.

[Moses]

Well, with the controlling relationship news, I guess that does bring you back to Colton Underwood on the traitors because Demi Burnett, who was also on the bachelor, Colton, season of the Bachelor, made a tick tock and Instagram reel, like, speaking out about him. That kind of went viral. Did you see it?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses]

Oh. Basically, she, like, broke down the allegations that Colton faced and she was frustrated that he was getting the, like, good guy Dylan Efron pilot p edit on the traitors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar Gracie]

But also, yeah. I never think they said it's not delegations because he admitted trouble. True. And he admitted law to doing all that.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait, I didn't know. What did he do?

[Moses]

So it all comes down to his. His ex girlfriend or fiance, Cassie Randolph. She won his season of the Bachelor. And after. And Demi kind of breaks down, like, all the court papers and everything like that. But basically, she says after Cassie and Colton broke up, a judge signed off on a restraining order against. Against Colton because of incidents that happened in 2020. He was accused of stalking, putting a tracker on her car, and sending threatening texts. And at the time his alleged texts to her were revealed. So he. Demi says that he was, like, not only, like, sending threatening texts to her, but then also sending threatening texts to himself, pretending to also be, like, victimized by this, like, anonymous stalker. But it was. Was him. Yeah. And the restraining. Cassie dropped the restraining order in November 2020 because they were able to reach a private agreement. So. Yeah. And then Demi also shares, like, screenshots and Stuff of the different articles and the summarizing, like, his actions and stuff. And then she's. Her point is, like, she's still friends with Cassie, and she's like, well, you know, Colton's been on Netflix shows, the Traders. He's had all these opportunities. He was on the Mass singer, a show called are you my first be on the edge? And now the Traitors. She said, I haven't seen my friend Cassie on any shows at all since. Since then. Why have I seen her abuser on five different shows and I haven't seen her on any? It just makes no sense to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy. If, like, he admitted to all of it. It was, like, real if it's factual.

[Moses]

Yeah. And when he did come out as well, he did, like, address. Somewhat address, like, the situation with Cassie. He said he came out on Good Morning America in an interview with Robin Roberts. He said, I would like to say sorry for how things ended. I messed up. I made a lot of bad choices. I would just say I'm sorry from the bottom of my heart. I'm sorry for the pain and emotional stress I caused. I wish I wouldn't. It wouldn't have happened the way it did. I wish that I would have been courageous enough to fix myself before I broke anybody else. Else. So obviously he was closeted, probably dealing with a lot of pain and stuff. But, yeah, I do understand her point because it is different. But when someone's just controversial versus, like, when they actually have someone who is victimized by their action, I feel like it is so different. And then so obviously back to the Traders, there was, like, a whole scene with, like, Michael Rapaport making, like, a diss at Colton about him being in the closet. So he did it. Colton did an interview with Entertainment Weekly. And then at the top, Entertainment Weekly had to add in a disclaimer, like, as a. As a condition of this interview, we were not allowed to ask Colton about his relationship with Cassie, which kind of brought all this stuff back up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. No, absolutely not that he should be doing interviews if you're not gonna talk about everything, like, you should not be doing interviews.

[Moses]

I feel like that's the thing, too, is like, of course people can, like, apologize and change and grow, but if Cassie isn't saying anything, you have her friends speaking out for her, and then you are just, like, avoiding the situation altogether.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You're censoring it.

[Moses]

Yeah. Instead of, like, acknowledging it, taking accountability.

[Trisha Paytas]

For the rest of your life, you should have to acknowledge it. You know what I mean? Because it's like that, that is if you're going to continue to be a public figure. Yeah. The trauma of it all. You know what I mean? Like, you have to, you have to acknowledge that forever. It's like David with Jeff and everything. It's just like that's on you forever. And you have to keep acknowledging it forever because you did something awful.

[Moses]

Yeah. And obviously, like, like, I understand the concept of like him obviously going through so much trauma and struggling with his sexuality and everything too. That can help explain, as we always say. It can explain, but like not excuse it. And like. Yeah, I feel like it's just if you're gonna still do be a personality and be on shows and stuff, you have to like, just know that that's gonna be part of your, like, history and you can't just run away from it forever and think it's just gonna go away. Like, it wasn't that long ago either. It was just like five years ago really.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I don't like it.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it gives me the ick.

[Moses]

And that's why, I don't know, this whole season of the Traders just have like a weird cloud over it between, like Colton, like Michael Rappaport and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think they just need an all female one. I think no men. Because what, what men contributes to the Traders. Like what enhances that show as a male besides oncomings? Nobody. Name one man who you're like, oh, they really help Traders.

[Moses]

What did I like on Traders? Let's see. I mean, obviously like Bob.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which Bob?

[Moses]

Bob the drag queen, I think Bob the fitness guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Bob Harper.

[Moses]

No, he didn't really do much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bob was okay. Drag queens aside, because we do love.

[Moses]

Queer people, I guess. Yes. Well, Colton called under the category blanketly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

So Queens, Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Queens and girls and that's it. That's it. Otherwise they contribute absolutely nothing. No one adds anything. Efron, I enjoy contributes nothing. It's like Rob too. I get it hot take here. Okay, whatever. But they, they had nothing but good looks, which people that Dorinda is so. Oh, I, I would have loved you on the back. Oh, I wish I would like she to Rob and did she do it to Colton too? She's just like, oh, I would have loved to have known you. Oh, I like this shirt.

[Oscar Gracie]

I like that she was said she didn't meet him when he was still.

[Moses]

I do like Rob, though. I, I, I go in with a bias against Love island guys for some reason. Like, I love the Love island girls, but I'm always like Dubious of the Love Island Boys. But damn, that Rob really did win me over. And just the clips I saw.

[Trisha Paytas]

As far as, like, what part of it?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, as far as the competitor in the game. He's really good. Like, he's doing what they're supposed to.

[Moses]

Do, and he's pretty smart. Well, he did call out Michael Rapabori because he kept using commiserate Wrong. Yeah. And when he was trying to, like, call out Colton, he's like, I can't take this anymore. That's not what commiserate means. And it was so, like, I was he.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was he a spot on with it?

[Moses]

He was spot on.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like I would call someone out and, like, that's what I was giving. I was like, oh, he probably is wrong.

[Moses]

He was correct. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, no, I like him. He's pleasant. Same thing with Dill. Laugh from Pleasant. I don't think they're like stars to me. I'm not like, oh, I want to see more of him. They're great on the show because of the lack of other people. It's like, yeah, Rob stands out because literally no one gives anything else.

[Oscar Gracie]

But it's kind of like how the game. If you're smart about the game, you play it as a marathon because anyone that's too noisy at the beginning gets thrown out. Out. Whether it's because you're too noisy or you make a mistake by being too noisy or you're too confident about something and you're wrong. He's making alliances both with the traitors and the faithfuls. That's true. And he's. It's kind of smart, cuz he's kind of going under the radar for now. Nobody yet suspect anything of him.

[Trisha Paytas]

People love him. They go crazy for his looks. To me, they look like Colton, cuz remember when they were sitting right next to each other?

[Oscar Gracie]

Twins. They look like twins.

[Trisha Paytas]

So whenever, like Rob, so Hobbit Colton, it's like, well, they're literally look like each other identically.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, the eyes character affects how you view somebody.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess. I guess he's a snake wrangler is what Ari told me.

[Moses]

Yeah. I mean, you'll know he's friends with Tara. Yummy. Everyone thought they were together for a bit better.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, Tara went to Louisiana or wherever he's from to go, like, look for snakes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need to ask about this. I was like, is she gonna come on the podcast? I was like, well, maybe we need to ask her. That's so. I will. You know me. I love asking questions.

[Moses]

You do you love flipping it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ways I can. There's nothing cool to talk about me that I need to know. That's where they. They were not dating. We just went to his.

[Moses]

Yeah. They were just really good friends. Yeah. Everyone thought they were.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I feel like if you travel to someone's home.

[Moses]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I. I don't think I'm gonna go to your hometown. Although it's not too far I suppose. Do you know what I mean? Like I don't think I would just go to someone's hometown. Like look at their. Their snakes if I'm just.

[Moses]

That's true. And she's so cute. And he was single at the time, so maybe. Wait, but she's dating. Yeah. They. Someone else.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she dating someone else?

[Moses]

Yeah. I don't know how like out. But I mean if I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Moses]

I know but I don't even know how I know actually. But I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't even know how you know.

[Moses]

I don't know where I got this information game.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

By throw. Is that. Did I use it right? I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that when you like lay your head down in a pillow and you absorb it like you're supposed to sleep with a textbook at underneath you and then it just absorbed through the pillow kind of.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your osmosis. Yeah. Other men on Traders. Who else is on there? Like is there any.

[Moses]

Monet is the fallen soldier at this point. I love Monet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Like what the hell.

[Moses]

Yeah. I don't know. Is there any other like Stephen Coletti?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like do you know Stephen?

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know I'm on the Trader.

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Oscar Gracie]

But that's not fair because I never remember a name but then I forget a face.

[Moses]

He looked. I mean Steven looks more like Rob.

[Trisha Paytas]

Than Colton, but Steven looks more like Rob.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. What? No.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not at all. Colton and Rob were right next to each other in a frame and they looked identical.

[Moses]

More of like a footballer builds me like a football player. Steven is more like a lean muscular like a Steven.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Steven's middle age. He's giving the flash. He's giving Ezra meets. Yeah. He's giving flash. Yeah.

[Moses]

You think? I guess I did forget. He is basically. He's not even middle aged. Isn't he?

[Trisha Paytas]

He's middle aged. He's way. He's older than me for sure. Oh my. He's definitely in his 40s cuz like Kristen and all them like he was dating like Lauren.

[Moses]

I mean I was in eighth grade and he was a senior in high school, so that's a four or five year difference at least.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's 40 minimum. But I would say 40.

[Moses]

Well, it's not middle age, but middle age, age.

[Trisha Paytas]

What are you living to be 100? You live to be like 85.

[Moses]

Well, if you're Dick Van Dyke, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Use that example all the time. Like, Dick Van Dyke's 100 years old. He has to be 42. I bet that's my guess.

[Moses]

39. He's born in 86.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lies. He changed the birthday on there. Lies. Did you see Simon Cowell?

[Moses]

I saw that you tweeted about Simon.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was mad about it.

[Moses]

Yeah, you were.

[Oscar Gracie]

What the hell?

[Trisha Paytas]

I really don't understand people who are like, I have $600 million. My kids get none of it. Like, what the wrong with you? Why are you even here then? Why are you even making money? Like, why do you care? Like, that is crazy. Why work so hard? Obviously you can't take it with you. Go. Like, I love that he's joining charities. Great, we love that. But $600 million? Like, I think you could give 10 million to your child. Like, that's insane. That's crazy, right?

[Moses]

Yeah, I. I get the point of it. I. I get the point of saying that, but it in impracticality. It is kind of crazy, right? I mean, give a kids, leave her kids something.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's right. And my dad was worth 600 million. I was like, you get nothing. That's great. That's just like making it hard for no reason. My dad, like, he gave. You know, my dad, my brother got a college education and a Corvette and a condo in San Diego and also like that. And it's like, because I didn't choose to call college, my dad's like, you're gonna get absolutely nothing. I'm like, you can't even, like, help me out a little bit here and there, you know what I mean? And my dad's like, no. So then what I do, I become a hooker on the streets for $5, you know what I mean? And I had no doorknob where Superman was next to me. And it was just like this whole thing, and I was just like, getting into, like, black tar. And it's just like, you could just give me a couple, like, a thousand dollars to live in the Valley, you know what I mean? Instead of living in, like, Hollywood on, like, the streets, basically, because I had no doorknob. So it's like, I don't understand these people who are just like, love my dad now we work through things. He's great. Lovely little one with my kids, but like, would have helped a lot. A thousand dollars. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

Yeah.

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[Moses]

You get that principle of like, you know, making sure you're kids don't feel like, entitled and are still, you know, working and making their own name and stuff. But I think that that's like there's two extremes. Giving your kids literally nothing and like abandoning them versus, like giving them everything and they're like kind of brats and don't have to work or, you know, know the value of a dollar. Like, those are two very extremes. I feel like, again, there's like a nice middle ground, you know, where people can live.

[Oscar Gracie]

But yeah, because you have to give them some values and some work ethics and all that because it's easy to corrupt them otherwise. But a lot of times what happens with celebrities like that is like they're so busy with their career and they neglect that part of giving their kids the work ethics and some something to live for, you know, like some idea of purpose and. But then when they realize that it's too late and they just cut them off. They're like, okay, you're too bratty. You're too entitled. And they cut them off completely. Which is their, again, their fault because they neglected them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I forgot you had a trader's Hot Topic. We went through that too quickly. Sorry, you sent me.

[Oscar Gracie]

But that was more, I think for us. We were just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, for our real life conversation.

[Oscar Gracie]

We just wondered because. And the traders, you see them wearing certain clothing.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

And glam and everything. Which they do by themselves. The makeup and everything. And then they go and do a task and they get in the water, in the mud. Then they get dirty and they come back and then you see them again in the same clothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

At the round table.

[Oscar Gracie]

In the round table. So we thought they must film the task on a different day or prior to that. And they're just filming together. You Know the morning and the afternoon at one go. But now we found out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think it's real. Lisa Rinna. I think she's making it up.

[Oscar Gracie]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah, the girl was like. Did the girl ask Lisa? We're not personally or Lisa. We're in a. Just talked about.

[Oscar Gracie]

Seems like there's so many group chats with people from the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was saying, Lisa, Verna says no. Like, we do. We wear the outfit, we get our hair, we do our own hair makeup, then we do the challenge, get all dirty, whatever, and we have to go back in the same outfit and do the hair and makeup again. But I don't think that's real because, like, even if that was true, you would notice something slightly different in, like, their hair. It's not as nice, like, you know, you just don't style your hair the same way twice. You know what I mean? So it's like, I think they don't.

[Oscar Gracie]

Want to see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let people on. Because we know through your friend that they shoot like the breakfast scenes at, like, night. You know what I mean? Like, the lights are coming through. So it's like, I think they shoot them back to back. They just don't want people to know. But, like, I mean, they have.

[Oscar Gracie]

You notice in the breakfast scene, those are not real windows. Oh, that's like a backdrop. So that could be shot anytime of the day. So I don't know. So maybe it's the task first. And then they come in the afternoon and they shoot the morning, I think, part. But then. But then the person is missing. Right. Because when they go to the task, whoever will get killed because they find out in the breakfast who's eliminated, then you go to the task without that person. So the order will be odd unless.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do a round table before the the task.

[Oscar Gracie]

But then same thing if somebody's eliminated. No, if somebody is eliminated, they're not in the task. Ask cuz it happened before.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, No. A round table. Oh, God.

[Oscar Gracie]

So maybe it is what they're doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

That, like, hurt my brain to think about. That is so true. How do you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Cuz two people are eliminated and they find in the morning and they take somebody else in the evening and they do the task in between. But also we never paid attention to see like. Okay. Is her hair exactly the same?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry. Get some of those potatoes.

[Moses]

Potatoes?

[Trisha Paytas]

You were eating them like potatoes. He was eating with, like, a fork. Do you want something?

[Oscar Gracie]

I need some Chinese medicine.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have plenty left. Did you finish yours?

[Moses]

I did, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I'm Gonna get glowing skin. That's so confusing.

[Oscar Gracie]

But we never paid attention to see if it's actually somebody's hair is a bit different or not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we should. You're really good at that. My North Face skims are down there. The skims has a new Nike shoe out. Have you seen it?

[Moses]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very cool. And here's a little Crocs couch. Not sponsored. I did get a bunch of Crocs yesterday. Those Crocs gifted me like 20 crocs. Shout out, not sponsored. I came home with pasta. Crocs. Crocs with my face on it.

[Oscar Gracie]

The pasta one is back there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you displayed that. Wow. We look like we're sponsored by Crocs today. We just have them all on display.

[Oscar Gracie]

Trying to encourage them, you know, manifesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I told them for real that I loved Crocs. I googled my name for shipping, paid us Crocs. And it comes up to a ton of like my bling Crocs everywhere that I've been with them in Chicago, in Vegas. Like, I used to wear them every.

[Oscar Gracie]

And you've gifted them to people like Carrot Top. We went to his show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I gifted him some.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow.

[Moses]

You don't play when it comes to Crocs.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really don't. And you know, when you meet a brand, you're like, no, but like, really, we should work together. It's like you don't understand, you know, like I. You have to really google it and show them, like, what would be the most natural fitting brand deal for you that you like. I can show you 20 years that I been loyal to.

[Moses]

That is a good question. I feel like it comes down to people I stan like, obviously if I was to get sponsored by like Taylor Swift, it's like, that's the easiest. But I do it for free, so she. She doesn't have to do much.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you don't know what, like who got sponsored? Was it Tar Yummy or something? Got sponsored. When her movie came out, people were getting sp. Or was it.

[Moses]

Oh yeah, they were getting the pr. The Hulu.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right. To like talk about it. So, I mean, you could get sponsored by Taylor Swift.

[Moses]

Should have. I mean, I. With like. I mean, Jimmy, I think like Pokemon. Like, I'm surprised they haven't sponsored him because he's been about it for a long time.

[Oscar Gracie]

Do they not sponsor people? They're just tough.

[Moses]

Yeah, they're very selective.

[Oscar Gracie]

They're the opposite. If you don't do it right, they'll like, shut you down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Could you imagine being a fan of something.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like, stop talking about it. That's like. That is my biggest fear is like loving something so much.

[Moses]

And they're like, I mean, you've been there. Me undies as we know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have such a good memory. That is crazy.

[Moses]

We have no affiliation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that crazy? I'm still subscribed. I still get an underwear every day, every month in the mail. That was crazy because we'd have so many meetings. You wore them so much before me and between the two of us were like a me undies aficionado. And they're like, actually stop posting this. Like, oh, you're right. God, you have such a good memory. You're like an encyclopedia. That's so insane.

[Moses]

A Trish Cyclopedia. You are idea. I feel like right now it'd probably be like a. Like Abercrombie would make sense. Cuz I pretty much wear all that glasses. Uniclo glasses. But I did get free glasses from Warby Parker.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah. Talk about that on the Patreon.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you ever get them?

[Moses]

I don't think they've arrived yet, but they are in route. They are in route.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm very impressed by you getting that.

[Moses]

I was like, I was impressed by that too. I was like, damn, was not expecting that.

[Trisha Paytas]

A couple days later I was like, that's pretty good that you just did that. You were just a go getter.

[Moses]

I was thinking about that too you. Because I remember Warby Parker used to sponsor Tyler Oakley. So I did feel like I am.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are. You're.

[Moses]

Wow. I made it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, that's really big.

[Moses]

Even though they just gave me a free pair. I'm not sponsored. Just not even partner.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'll say gifted me with crocs. Hashtag gifted. Well, you gotta take the baby steps.

[Moses]

There, you know, I'll take it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Abercrombie would be going. They're sponsoring everyone. Joey Graceffa.

[Moses]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He got sponsored by Abercrombie Crombie.

[Moses]

Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he did. Someone else did too. There's quite a few people.

[Moses]

Okay. Yeah. Let me put my name in the hat. Like what? That's like this is Abercrombie right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

You do look good. This is a great outfit on you.

[Moses]

This is kind of like I was feeling chopped and was like, let me just put. Yes and. And washed. So let me just put something up.

[Trisha Paytas]

But no, you look very fresh walking in. Like I said I saw you because I like I was backing up and I saw you. I was like, oh, wow, you look so fresh. You know, give a Jurassic park so Universal tour guide and I like it when we go on the universal one. We gotta do that. When we do the universal one. We'll have to show everyone where we worked. We like we were once there.

[Moses]

Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know.

[Moses]

Yes. All the lore. Yeah, I do have a lot of universal lore.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses]

It's gonna be so fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll have to start by I guess going up because that's where the office. That's when me and Oscar first met. We can like over there. Wonder if they let us in.

[Moses]

I think it's. But maybe you. Yeah, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz I know you have to get like through security to get up the elevators, but with you. You had a pass there. There.

[Moses]

I did have a badge at one point. My 401k is still there. I don't. I should probably transfer that. I don't know. I got emails about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you get it out?

[Moses]

I have no idea. I should probably look into that stuff there forever.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't think they'll. Let's take a picture up there. Whatever floor it was, they have that Access Hollywood sign up there.

[Moses]

I guess they still have friends who work there. So maybe they can just put it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, I work there. I'm gonna play. They were asking for some information for my LLC the other day.

[Moses]

Oh, work then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we have. I like page you. And I was like, oh, we need.

[Oscar Gracie]

The financial audit guy here.

[Moses]

Oh, he's been coming up a lot, that guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Someone else. I think it was Tara's world. Love her. I think I have all the comments like you need to go on financial audit because she. She talked about how she. The house she can't afford anymore is like listed. But then she just bought a house down the street so she has a bridge loan. And then she's like, but we're in an Airbnb right now. They're like, so you're paying for three houses, right? Yeah, like, can you go on for financial audit? Poor thing. I love her. Like, I mean people are being crazy, but damn. All right, final. What's our final topics?

[Moses]

Okay, I have. I have two little ones. Okay. Okay. First one about your friend Justin Bieber. Yes. So he allegedly got caught liking a comment under a decade old photo of him and Selena Gomez kissing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did you see that? A decade old. How did you.

[Moses]

Yeah, it's from 2016. Oh, so he posted this. Maybe. So I guess the fans are going back to his 2016 post. I don't know. But there was a. A photo of him kissing Selena Gomez that was posted by Justin. And it was captioned feels okay. And then feels. Yes, that was just the caption. And then under the photo of Selena and Justin kissing, an Instagram user wrote recently, this was like, a recent comment that they posted on it, which was Vivan las novios, which translates to long live the newlyweds. I roughly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

And then screenshots started circulating of Justin liking this comment that was from a photo of. Of him kissing selena.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, the 2016 trend is happening right now, so maybe that's where he was. He's like, let me go back and get photos. So he. He's like, I should like this photo, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

So wait, but he liked the comment. He liked the comment that was to the newlyweds.

[Moses]

Yes, but it's the photo of. Of Justin and Selena kissing. Yes. So maybe it was a recent comment and he didn't see what photo. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Moses]

It's all alleged. It's been hard to authenticate the comment itself because it has since been like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Unlike, obviously, get sued by the beavers.

[Moses]

Yes, the cease and desist of it all. So it is all speculative, obviously. But he has, like, stuff of him and Selena before in the past. It. People speculate that anytime, like, him and Haley have any drama, that's when he goes and, like, does a little Selena something. Like, there's been other times where he's like, like, Selena stuff. Like last year when he's been bickering with Haley and stuff too. So it does come up every now and then. So that is that big of a deal.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think, like, especially with the twins. Like, truly, with the 2016 trying, like, you go back and like, you just. You just posted your state. I was like, okay, Moses, like, posting. Most never post on Instagram. They posted 2016 trying. I was like, what the hell? I loved it, though. I loved it. I was for it. I was like, this is beautiful, this water. You're still the same person. We love it so much. But, like, I feel like people go back and like, yeah, you got fat fingers or whatever. You just like, accidentally hit your own. You know what I mean? It's a trend right now, so I think think it's not that big, but.

[Moses]

Damn, it's like the Selena of it all is kind of crazy, right? Like, because that's like the source of every. All the hate Haley gets. It's like, source because of Selena. Like, I mean, we talk about the relation. Like, you know, it's like, we talked about, like, the Jason Momoa, like, he's known for, like Lisa Bonet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

Like, Justin is always going to be tied back to Selena despite Haley.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sure. And it's usually. But. But it's the fan's fault in the Justin, Haley, Selena thing because Justin's not going out being like, that's not true.

[Moses]

Though, because remember when she got engaged, he was posting all these memes about Benny Blanco being ugly. So he does go back and instagate.

[Trisha Paytas]

About Benny Blanco the second.

[Moses]

The day that she gets engaged, he's posting memes about Gollum from Lord of the Rings holding an engagement ring, being like, girls when they get engaged, be like, I mean, that is, like, weirdly coincidental. Sure, there is a world maybe where he didn't know Selena got engaged and was posting that, but I think that's very slim. Like, he. He does stir the pot.

[Oscar Gracie]

So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not my Justin.

[Oscar Gracie]

What? He said that when they fight, he goes like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. And there. And she's chasing him around the house. Like, I'm going. I'm going 26. I'm gonna like this comment. No.

[Moses]

Because again, let me pull up. I forget which episode it was, but you pulled this up last year in your Bieber Fever era when you were like, justin, I love you, but do not like these comments about Selena. Like, to get really riled up.

[Trisha Paytas]

So last year, this year, let him do what he want. Okay? Everyone can do the 2016 try, except for Justin Bieber now. Like, let him do what he wants. Like what he wants.

[Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really need to leave Justin and alone. Starting with both of you. Okay. Over here being like, oh, he's probably in a fight with her and he's about to threaten it. They're probably in a healthy relationship. They're probably so happy. And everyone's just trying to ruin. As you said, people love to destroy love with hate. And everyone's trying to hate on them because they see how much love they are. I was at the OBB studios and I saw beautiful pictures that were six feet high of them kissing and being beautiful. They have this beautiful studio together. They have road everywhere. And I was just like. Like everyone's haters highlighting Coachella. That's the thing. You. They come up again and everyone wants to bring him down. I think it's fine. I think it's fine. I think it's fine to post a. A shady meme here and there.

[Moses]

So what if Moses liked the photo of him and an ex girlfriend Instead said, vivan las novios.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love.

[Moses]

Yeah, right. You can't even talk about Kate Bush.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Well, let them. You know, that's. That's what it is, babe. Go ahead. Like a photo from 2016.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm sorry, I need to reset the cameras. No, seriously.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we're done. Are we wrapping up?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I just need to reset them. Be like, I know Mose has nothing to say.

[Trisha Paytas]

You like anything you want. Uh huh. Yeah. I saw him repost those. You know what, it's funny when you do repost those photos from 2016 and you're just like, who was there with you at that art show? You went by yourself? He's like, I found a love note in the water in France. Who was with you in those oceans? You weren't just swimming by yourself in the middle of France. There's probably someone there that inspired you that was like, ooh, love is the answer.

[Moses]

Oh my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

First of all, I was and I told the story here on the podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a beautiful story. I love that one. Who was with you though?

[Oscar Gracie]

Because we were the dance company, we were touring, we were doing performances in Spain and then we ended up in France and I was by myself in the water. That's why I was talking to the water. Wouldn't do that. If somebody else was. Was floating with me in the water.

[Trisha Paytas]

You'd be talking to the water.

[Oscar Gracie]

But. Yeah, but that was so cool. Cuz when I. That's actually what inspired me to do the 2016. Because when I went back, I saw the photo like that happened in 2016. Cuz I didn't know that. And the photo is there of that piece of paper.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your first one is you taking a mirror selfie.

[Oscar Gracie]

It just chronologically. That was in the beginning of 2016.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is that what you were doing? You went from my January to December?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, but I just. It was 2016. Like in 2016, there were a few photos that I chose to.

[Trisha Paytas]

But why'd you put that one first?

[Oscar Gracie]

Because that was in the order. They're. They're in order.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. So of the month, like January to December.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. You have to be methodical about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Methodical? I'm methodical about everything. I feel so sore for my bodies. I've been doing ab workouts.

[Moses]

Oh, that is tough. Yeah. Okay. Final hot topic, I suppose is the artist formerly known as Jojo Siwa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, you love a Jojo Siwa.

[Moses]

I do, I really do. Well, you kind of mentioned it last week, but I didn't see the full Lore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did I?

[Moses]

You mentioned in passing about her wanting to get married. Yes, but I didn't see the full. The full debrief of it. I didn't know she was posting. Posting AI photos of herself as a bride on her Snapchat.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know that either.

[Moses]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I love that premonition, I guess. Yeah, we're disconnected. I'm not even on Snapchat.

[Moses]

You two are weirdly, spiritually connected.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're on the Trainers together.

[Moses]

The guy is. I could. I could.

[Oscar Gracie]

They will do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were both Big Brother contestants and game players.

[Moses]

That's true. I wonder what your lower third would be on traitors together. Like 70 big. Big Brother for sure. Or like influencer.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like Stephen Colette being One Tree Hill. It's like, okay, we know you from Laguna Beach. Yeah.

[Moses]

But yes, over the weekend she was posting photos of herself as a bride wearing a wedding dress, wearing a glittery statement necklace and earrings. And she wrote over the image, call me a wife. Which is wild. It kind of reminds me of when she was doing like she was pretending to be pregnant back in the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Plus problematic.

[Moses]

Less problematic. Yeah, Just kind of imagining yourself on your wedding day. But it does come on the heels of Chris and Joe. Joel. Chris and Joel did a. A podcast for the sun in December and they joked about getting engaged. And Joe, well, I have to keep stopping myself. Gave the hard cut off of like seven years is like, like the most she'll go before getting engaged in a relationship. And she said that a long time. Yeah, it is kind of seven years.

[Oscar Gracie]

Very long.

[Moses]

Shockingly a reasonable amount of years for her. Because you would think it'd be like, you know, two. Cuz she moves pretty quick.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right.

[Moses]

I'm sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

She hasn't been married. Honestly, she is someone who would move quickly so quick.

[Moses]

Yeah, like, I feel like as soon as she like commits to someone, she goes really fast. Like she's claims like love really quickly and like, like already thinks about like kids and everything. So yeah, seven years was kind of the most surprising part of it. And she said that she would even like be the one to pop the question to him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

And she said, but what if I got him a ring? But Chris said that kind of makes him uncomfortable. And he wouldn't want to be the one to be proposed to. He would want to be the one doing the proposing. People have pointed out that Jojo looks like her face looks a little disappointed. Obviously. It's like the body language of it all. Who was to say. But she did look a little disappointed that he was, like, so against it. Which I. It was interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a. It's a guy thing. Moses didn't want me to post him either. He's like, no, don't do that.

[Moses]

Oh, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I wanted to do.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I literally, like, I'm just gonna prose you. He's like, no, don't do that. I was like, what? What do you mean? That's so annoying. Like, you should be able to.

[Moses]

That is so interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's. I think she's just a super fan of me and copying my nachos. Everything she does. Freddie, Eddie and Teddy because of Freddie Mercury and now this and celebrity Big Brother. Like, you know, that is wild. Yeah. We love you, Joelle. Though if you're gonna copy someone, you might as well copy an icon. I was. I was somewhere the other day and someone's like, oh, how would you describe what you do? And then one of the teenagers there, she. You're just an icon. I was like, I'm gonna start talking to people. I'm like, if you're gonna copy some. You know what? I don't like that. I feel like you should be able to propose if you want to propose. Because that'd be crazy. If you want to propose to me and ask you to marry me. And you're like, no, because I want to propose to you. It's like, what's it matter? We're just here together vibing.

[Moses]

Interesting. So you had a similar feeling when Moses said he won't. He wanted to pop the question to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was like, well, even before that, before I even thought he was gonna propose to me, I was like, I just want to propose to you.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I think for her, it was more her to it.

[Moses]

Me?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. For me, it was more like slowing it down.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like five months later, they proposed after we.

[Oscar Gracie]

Right. That you realize how much she rushed. Cuz it was like the same. This was after me slowing it down. But no, cuz everything. Cuz you were like, I'm going to buy my ring. Like you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have. I wanted, like, it needs to be big.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's like, I'm going to buy the R ring I'm gonna do. That's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why does it matter? People say that with, like, Michaela too. She bought her own ring. It's like, well, you should be able to buy your own ring if you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Want to be able to buy your ring. And I'm able to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm Able to buy my ring too.

[Oscar Gracie]

But would you enjoy the proposal as much if. Yeah, no, I would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Excuse me?

[Oscar Gracie]

The surprise and joy on your face when you saw the ring, that was a surprise. I don't think it would be there if you knew. If you knew. Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I knew that's the ring I wanted.

[Oscar Gracie]

If you opened the box and you knew already what's in it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it was the ring I wanted, though. I think if I opened the box, it was like, something you just liked, I would have been, like, maybe a little disappointed. I'm not.

[Oscar Gracie]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it was the one I really wanted.

[Oscar Gracie]

Exactly. But that's. That's what I'm saying. Like, I did something that's true. Fulfilled your dream of being proposed to with that drink. And it made me happy, and it made you happy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's good.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then if you bought the ring and you proposed to me, none of us would be happy. That moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I would have been.

[Oscar Gracie]

Not the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses hates rings, too. I kept trying to buy my rings. I hate all the rings. I was like, oh, my gosh.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, as you diagnosed me with severe.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did not diagnose. Diagnose you. You are.

[Oscar Gracie]

I am. I have to. I do have to find something that doesn't. But for me, yes. Let's say when we do photo shoots and things, I put it on and it hurts. Like the. The minute. Like from the minute I put it on until I take it off, that's all I feel. So it's like. And it's not just rings. It could be other things. Could be a necklace, could be anything. A hat. It could be a stitch in the shirt that's not in the right place. So it's just that. But I'm sure somebody out there can make a ring that doesn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

That doesn't over stimulate you.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it's just too thick. The metal is too thick. So it. Between the fingers. I just constantly feel it.

[Moses]

I feel good on that too. I hate a thick ring.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Yeah. What are you gonna get?

[Moses]

I don't know. Well, I. Because I even got like a fitness ring. And I hate, like, I had to return it because I want. I like the idea of it, like, tracks your sleep and everything, but it just. It was too.

[Oscar Gracie]

Those are extremely thick.

[Moses]

Extremely thick.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, because they need the technology.

[Moses]

And even, like, holding things, like, you feel the metal, like, clink against anything you hold. I was like, oh, I can't. I can't handle it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm. I have no desire to be tattooed or have any tattoos, but I would rather have a tattoo that is our wedding ring than. Oh, to wear the ring.

[Trisha Paytas]

We just get our names on there. I'm down.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't. Like, I want to show it and have it visible. Visible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. What are you gonna put on there? Just a ring or my name?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know. What do you.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're just married. People usually put. Well, Pam and Tommy put their names.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, it could be our name and the date or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it comes off pretty easily, though, right? Your finger tattoo comes off easily.

[Moses]

Yeah. Easier than others, for sure. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Anywhere that there's a lot of friction.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I never heard you say that you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Want, but I'm saying, like, that's not. Like, the reason is really the way it feels. So something that doesn't feel.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't judge. I never. Mine fits. And I don't know, just, you know, who thinks about it, really? Us.

[Moses]

JoJo does.

[Trisha Paytas]

JoJo. Joel.

[Moses]

She also. As one of her Christmas gifts from Chris was a. A Cartier love ring. So I think she.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she mo's got me a Cartier love bracelet. The love ring bracelet.

[Moses]

That's gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. We're really. We really are. Joelle. Call me. Come on. The podcast.

[Moses]

She'd be doing podcasts with anybody, so it is kind of crazy. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't unblock her. That was like. Cause I was gonna DM her, and I don't know how to unblock people on Instagram. Like, it's so hard to unblock. I blocked, like, 10,000 people, so you have to, like, go through each one. And you can't just search. So I can never search for her profile. I guess I can do it through.

[Moses]

Moses's Instagram or maybe the Just Trish one.

[Trisha Paytas]

For some reason, I think it won't. Maybe. Maybe you're right. Yeah, I'll look on there. You're right.

[Moses]

Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Check your dance, My hot topic, but we're out of time now. My hot topic was Tana revealing she was in love with Jay Paul.

[Moses]

Oh, shoot.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was all over my fyp. It was kind of, like, crazy. Did you watch her sober video? It's one hour long. She was spilling all the tea. And she said the reality was, was that she was really in love with him and ever. Because everyone said it was like, a gag and they were trolling. She said she was. She had a lot of tea in that. We talked about. Not Loveline, I guess, yesterday. So you can go over there. But I was kind of gagged by that, because I really thought, like, of anybody who was just in it for the attention of it all thought it was her, but she, like. No, I really cared about him and I was really sad.

[Moses]

I even. This is not me just, like, rewriting history. But even when I, like, interviewed them, I never and was, like, at her wedding, even though it was like, a spectacle and crazy and live streamed and they sold tickets and stuff, I always, like, got the vibe that she was, like, legit about it, really, to be honest.

[Trisha Paytas]

So why was it not a real wedding then?

[Moses]

I think because to Jake, it was more of a gag. But I think also. Also, she's a cancer, isn't she?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

Yes. I. I always felt it. Yeah. I don't know. And again, I know this probably sounds like it's like. Well, I knew all along, but, like, genuinely, I always got the vibe that for her it was, like, for realsies. Just the way that she talked, like, when I would interview her and the way that she would talk about it. And also, like, when I did the VidCon panel with her and then he came and like, proposed again. Like, she was so genuinely, like, surprised and, like, enamored by it. That, like, I just knew on her end it was kind of for real. It kind of gave me a plot of, like, those rom coms where, like, it is kind of a. A gag, but for one person it's serious. Oh, that's always the G, though. Always the vibe I got from it as.

[Trisha Paytas]

The worst part is when, like, one person, me, and every relationship, like, taking it so seriously, and the other person's like, it was a joke. That's so sad. Ew.

[Moses]

Yeah. And then I remember, like, the whole debacle after the wedding when people went to go find the wedding documents, and it was like, never for. For realsies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, did people think it was for reals at the time?

[Moses]

Yeah, they did. Like, I remember when we got sent to cover it, it was like, it was the wedding. Yeah. And then when I got there and saw, like, where it was in Vegas, and, like, it was such a crazy spectacle. And, like, I remember the ceremony was, like, in this one really small section where, like, the seats were, but then it was really small. And then there was so many guests there, but no one was even watching the ceremony. Like, they were all just partying in.

[Trisha Paytas]

The back of this, like, mansion.

[Moses]

And the people who were actually watching the ceremony was, like, very small. It was like, no one, actually. Yeah, we were filming.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you were?

[Moses]

Yeah, we were covering it, so we Were in the part, like, to record it and, like, watch the ceremony.

[Trisha Paytas]

But were you in it? Were you, like, crying? Were you like, this is.

[Moses]

No, it was because whoever was doing the. The. What is it called? Whoever was ordained, I guess, to, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the officiate.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

It was very unseary. Like, whoever. It was one of Jake's friends.

[Trisha Paytas]

I kind of remember you with glasses or something.

[Moses]

Yes. And it was, like, kind of odd, but for again, for Tana, she had the wedding dress, the bouquet, like, it was, like, pretty serious to her, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't know. I thought, like, she was just, like, totally in on it. Like, everything was, like, fake and for money or whatever. But she was like, no, I really, like, was in love with him. And she was really sad, actually. I think she, like, wanted to, like, continue. And he was kind of like, I'm going to box. And there's kind of, like, ghosted her, basically.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate that so much. Oh, my gosh, that's so sad. I guess that's just like how YouTubers worked back then. But it was a good video. One year sober. Tana, we love you. I was like, so. I don't know. I was kind of shook. My whole. My whole FYP was like, just her revelations of all that stuff. And I was kind of like, oh, my God, that's kind of, like, awful. Whatever. I mean, she's doing well, so.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Jake, I guess he's doing well on a big farm somewhere.

[Moses]

At least from beard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jake from Big Farm.

[Moses]

It's pretty funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. Well, you guys, that's it. That is it. That was a great one.

[Moses]

We did cover a lot and.

[Trisha Paytas]

We covered a lot.

[Moses]

Yeah. Spilled tea, literally, with Moses.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Good job on tea making.

[Oscar Gracie]

It'll be more if you want to be Chinese.

[Moses]

That was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy. If you're serious about being Chinese.

[Oscar Gracie]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Okay. Period. I love the Chinese culture too. I also love Jason Mo. I hope he's not too hard on him watching. Never wants to come on ever again like this, you know, I was doing tough love. I was like, can we just not do that?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Some guys need to hear the perspective.

[Trisha Paytas]

He doesn't care. Maybe he does. My would care. He's like, I'll take that into consideration. Okay, well, you. I don't want to leave.

[Moses]

Well, we have Patreon join us over there.

[Trisha Paytas]

So if you don't want to leave either, go to Patreon. Com. Just Trish today. We love you guys. See you there. Netflix is a joke. May 5th at the Wiltern, 9:45pM that's my slot. We'll see you there. Bye.