Why Tana Mongeau Called 911 & James Charles' Private Jet Causing Global Warming | Just Trish Ep. 269

Summary

JUST TRISH – EPISODE 269
“Why Tana Mongeau Called 911 & James Charles' Private Jet Causing Global Warming”
(Aired: April 23, 2026)
Host: Trisha Paytas | Co-host: Oscar Craven | Guest: Moses

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Overview

This episode, as always, sees Trisha and Oscar dive deep into the latest pop culture drama, influencer tea, and behind-the-scenes stories from their personal and professional lives, with husband Moses adding his dry wit. Major topics include wild Coachella stories (including Tana Mongeau's break-in drama), James Charles’ controversial Coachella trip via private jet, pop star career moves, influencer infighting (a.k.a. Alex vs Alex), reflections on friendship and aging, and social media antics. The tone is candid, playful, shade-throwing, and occasionally heartfelt—classic Just Trish.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Catching Up & Personal Updates

• Screen time confessions: The group compares weekly phone hours; Trisha thinks her number must be highest but has trouble tracking it (03:00).
• Oscar’s apartment farewell: Oscar is moving after five years, leading to emotional reflections on gratitude, friendship, and career growth (09:09).
  • Quote – Oscar: “I never thought in a million years...it just felt like a dream that could never happen. So I'm, like, super grateful.” (11:13)
  • Trisha proclaims Oscar is the "backbone" of the show.

2. Reflecting on Friendship & Aging

• They discuss how, as adults, social life narrows to family and work friends (07:40), and with kids, your children’s friends' parents become your new circle (08:34).
• Quote – Moses: “And your kids choose your friends...You don't even choose it.” (08:45)

3. Pool Aesthetics & California Living

• Trisha expresses jealousy over Oscar’s "sparkly blue" pool compared to her "midnight" toned one, joking about "luxury problems." (06:34)

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4. Coachella Weekend 2 Recap

4.1. Billie Eilish, Justin Bieber, and Lesbian Visibility

• Emotional montage: Billie Eilish’s full circle moment with Justin Bieber at Coachella (17:19).
• Trisha celebrates Lesbian Visibility Week, sharing funny anecdotes about fan awakenings (18:04), and how Bieber was formative for many of her lesbian friends.

4.2. The ‘One Less Lonely Girl’ Stage Ritual

• How concert “fan moments” are organized, and how it compares to Taylor Swift’s “22 hat” moment (19:32).
• Quote – Oscar: “Her team is kind of scouting for, like, just an excited, little girl... and tell them what to do.” (20:02)

4.3. Festival Observations – The “Unimpressed Crowd”

• Coachella crowds are tough: Performers notice low audience engagement, especially for legends (i.e., Madonna) and newer viral stars alike. (49:38)
• Quote – Oscar: “I saw a tweet that was like, you kind of have to respect Madonna like you respect your granny...” (50:06)
• Social media vs. in-person reality: Clips often go viral despite live audience indifference (55:05).

4.4. James Charles’ Private Jet Fiasco

• James Charles took a jet to Coachella for photos/content—not the festival (45:14).
  • Environmental shade: “How much fuel did we use for that exactly? How many—Oh, what?” (47:01)
  • Oscar notes Charles doubled down online, sassing those who criticized him.
  • “Gross. Gross. Why? I hate—I don't hate James Charles. I absolutely hate his attitude...” (47:25)

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5. Pop Culture Spin Cycle

5.1. Euphoria Season 3: Chaos Continues

• Oscar and Trisha react to the new season, finding the plot and aesthetic “chaotic but fun” (27:40).
  • Zendaya praised for her acting: “She really has gotten so much better...she's so good. I forget that she's straight and married to Tom Holland because as Rue, she really been looking like a lesbian.” (31:38)

5.2. Music Industry Tea: Tour Flops & Cancellations

• Meghan Trainor cancels her tour—unleashing a wave of online hate (68:25).
  • Oscar: “Her worst offense is really… she's just a little corny and she's skinny now.” (68:30)
  • Discussion about canceled arena tours and the changing economics of live shows (72:00).
• Comparison with Pussycat Dolls’ questionable arena booking strategy (71:46).

5.3. Social Media Influencer Drama

• Tana Mongeau’s Coachella Airbnb break-in: Storytime about two girls getting in using the access code, leaving their IG handles as “calling cards” (80:01).
• Trisha relives her own brush with fan oversteps (84:36).

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6. Online Culture & Influencer “Beef”

6.1. Alex Earl vs. Alex Cooper

• The whole “Alex v. Alex” influencer beef:
  • Oscar is unimpressed: “There's no flavor here...It's all about money and maybe a little bit of politics. Like, that's the most boring kind of beef to me.” (120:44)
  • Speculation that Earl is “saving the story” for her reality show (120:23), but both hosts are left wanting.
  • “It's just...Who's the one going to give us the messy? ...she did a little pap walk after people were still seated...she threw it away.” (127:52)
  • Both hosts lean toward Team Cooper simply for serving more “zest.”

6.2. Grifter Influencers & Changing Narratives

• MJ Gray, another TikTok “girl boss” who renounced marriage...then got engaged herself (93:04):
  • “Don't tell women… don't look to me for your life decisions when your whole thing is telling them ‘I know everything.’” (96:43)
  • The hosts agree TikTok influencers can be maddeningly hypocritical—“Unfollow all these people.” (96:54)

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7. Celebrity Health & Safety Tales

• Sprouse twins: Dylan confronts an intruder, holding them at gunpoint until police arrive (86:24).
• Tangents on name changes after marriage and the bureaucratic hassle involved (90:22).

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8. Food, Family & Gender Roles

• Moses talks about being the family caretaker; Trisha jokes about her “abundance-attracting” powers by lying in bed (99:45).
  • “When she's laying on the bed or a sofa, she's attracting the abundance, the wealth, the good energy.” (99:45)
• Ongoing playful debate about who does more in the Paytas household (101:39).

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9. Random Viral Trends

• Uber Eats driver goes viral for including her feet in delivery proof photos, scoring big tips (113:57).
  • Oscar contemplates what he could charge for photos of his own calloused feet.

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10. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Oscar: “If an influencer didn't take up a spot in the PJ [private jet], they'll just invite another one. But this was literally just for one person.” (48:23)
• Trisha: “Year of the whores. Moving forward, onward, speed ahead.” (16:44)
• Trisha (on influencer hypocrisy): “...maybe people are just trying to like piss people off or something?...Let's stop listening to these influencers.” (96:54)

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11. Podcast Culture—To Book or Not to Book

• Jokes about how everyone in LA has dated everyone else (“...in gay world...everyone has openly. Everyone's sleeping around”) (135:49).
• Meta moments as Trisha and Oscar again wish their podcast booking game rivaled that of other shows (110:14).

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Notable Timestamps

• 09:09 – Oscar gets emotional about buying a home (“I never thought in a million years...”)
• 17:19 – The Billie Eilish/Justin Bieber Coachella moment & lesbian visibility
• 45:14 – James Charles’ private jet controversy explained
• 49:38 – Madonna’s Coachella appearance & unimpressed crowd
• 68:25 – Meghan Trainor’s tour cancellation and backlash
• 80:01 – Tana Mongeau's Airbnb break-in saga
• 99:45 – “Attracting abundance” by resting (gender roles/manifestation jokes)
• 113:57 – Uber Eats “foot tip” hack
• 120:44 – Alex Earl vs Alex Cooper beef: “no flavor here, it's all about money...most boring kind of beef”

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, irreverent, gleefully gossipy
• Unfiltered opinions, direct shade at influencers
• Heartfelt moments about gratitude and growth
• Juicy, pop-culture-obsessed, with the energy of a Twitter feed in real-time

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Conclusion

This episode delivers on “Just Trish” trademarks: sharp pop culture dissection, influencer callouts, unvarnished life talk, and the requisite dose of hot mess energy. The show's hosts find humanity and humor even in the internet’s messiest moments, whether unraveling Coachella scandals or dissecting the meta-madness of influencer drama. For listeners, it’s a front-row seat to LA’s online circus—no filter, maximum fun.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craven]

He hasn't a single or coming out. I don't know. 9:1. It's like a. It's like a 911. I have an emergency. Like a summer.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are the emergency. Don't tell people how. 9 1, 1.

[Moses]

Now they know how to.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a crazy song for him. Okay, well, Her name is Filthy Topic Queen. Everybody think she's just. Hello and welcome to the Just Trish podcast. It's Tuesday. You know what they say, two for Tuesdays. We're going to tackle tonight two for six. I think you can do that accent the two for six mini. Bring two for six back.

[Oscar Craven]

They should. That's your next commercial. Two for six.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm gagged. I also gagged on your shirt. Did you have that on the morning?

[Oscar Craven]

I did, yeah. Okay. I originally had an Olivia Rodrigo shirt on, but then. Oh, I figured this a Trisha shirt would be better representation of our branding as a duo.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are a duo. Yeah. We had our first interview together today, which was very exciting. They heard Daniel's podcast out next Sunday.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, big.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. He's bringing on a Sunday, the Lord's day.

[Oscar Craven]

What better day?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I guess there's probably not a lot of pockets that come out on that day. But are people driving anywhere to listen? I don't know.

[Oscar Craven]

People are at home cleaning. I mean, talking about myself. I always need something to listen to on a Sunday.

[Moses]

On the way to church.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, exactly.

[Moses]

It's a perfect podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were doing screen times. You have screen time on your phone. I mean, mine didn't have me clocking in ever. Right. Because like, I guess I have to set it up or something.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. Usually is it Sunday. Like it pops up Your notification.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mine doesn't. And I even had them both. Look. Because I was like, I don't know how to do this. And so yours is. Do you know what yours is?

[Moses]

I don't know. Oh, I mean, it depends. It changes. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like average, you think?

[Moses]

Maybe. Maybe six hours.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, that's pretty good.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's good. Theirs was what, nine hours?

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Harry's was almost 10. Mine's just over nine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. To me, I didn't think that was a lot. I feel like. I don't know how long, but I feel like I'm on my day on my phone at least an hour a day. Like every hour on the day.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm always checking it. So in my head, I'm on my phone 24 hours because I'm always checking it. So I thought that was low, actually, but mine was.

[Moses]

Yeah, yours will be high. I think when you were on tour, mine was like eight to nine hours.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Oh, you.

[Trisha Paytas]

More time.

[Moses]

Because I was following my wife all the time online.

[Oscar Craven]

The TikTok lives. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was doing that a lot. Yeah. I feel like I probably have the most screen time, but it wasn't. It wasn't clocking, as Justin Bieber said. But I tried to turn on. Hopefully I'll know by next Sunday if I'm also chronically online. You guys, we just did a podcast, so I don't know. I'm already feeling it. I had this wig on since 7am because we had to get there early and drive back and forth. Drive time was like watch hours. So the wig was on at like 7am this morning, which means I was up at like 6am this morning. So I don't know how this podcast is, but I feel good. I had a little moon bath on Friday. I feel very cleansed, so I feel good.

[Oscar Craven]

I almost prepared with sugar, too. I was like, let me give her a donut and get that. A little sugar rush.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do feel I'm gonna need a little sugar rush. And no water. Now I have the water. I had no water. Nothing in me. Actually, I did it stop for a little chicken nugget on the way. But it was. Yeah, I needed it. Cause I was like a little delirious.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But in a good way. I feel like I cleansed myself so much over the weekend that, like, I'm. I'm too pure. There's no thought in my head. There's no. There's no worldly thought in my head, which is like such a crazy. You meditate?

[Oscar Craven]

No. I probably should, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

I should try it.

[Oscar Craven]

I probably should. There's a lot in my head.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's the craziest feeling to have nothing in your head. Like, truly, like, it's actually amazing. Like, I feel like my brains would float out if I didn't have this wig on. Like, it just feels like light, like. Yeah. There's nothing in my mind.

[Oscar Craven]

No one threw tomatoes at you this time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't do it on TikTok Live. Maybe that was the. No tomatoes thrown. And no tomatoes will be thrown. You guys, I have to announce my memoir, Crying on the Kitchen Floor. Pre order now Signed available. See you on the book tour. The book tour is happening for sure. People have pointed out on TikTok that. And I didn't even know this. The signed copy is available.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Barnes and Noble for the same price as an unsigned. Why would someone get an unsigned. I guess they don't care about the signature.

[Oscar Craven]

But if you can, why not just. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I'm signing all of them. There's. I don't know if you noticed, there's like, there's, there's. There's limited quantity. A lot, but a limited quantity. And they pre ordered these and that's why I kind of paused my headshots because it's going to take me probably, probably a month.

[Moses]

It is very limited because a lot of them are going for the tour. So some people are going to buy them on the tour, but to get them online.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can get them online for the same price. That's a great deal. Check it out. Good stuff. Oscar, that vlog up.

[Oscar Craven]

Thanks for checking in, mama.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're welcome.

[Oscar Craven]

It'll be up this week. I'm waiting until I officially move. So I don't dox my current apartment for the last few days.

[Trisha Paytas]

They come to help you move, Doc.

[Moses]

The next people deal with it moving.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, the next people can deal with it, but yeah, yeah, yeah. So this week for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you showing yourself, like physically moving stuff out?

[Oscar Craven]

No. I do give like apartment tour though, before I leave. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you want the house? It is giving that of your old apartment.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. As my farewell.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it furnished when you did the tour or unfurnished?

[Oscar Craven]

It's still furnished right at this current moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah, I'm excited to see it. I actually never seen. I've seen the outside. Never seen inside.

[Oscar Craven]

I know, that's exciting. My farewell tour to my apartment of five years.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was very excited. I was showing your Instagram story, obviously to Moses. I was showing it to my dad, everybody. I was like, look, it's so Beautiful. Oh, my God. I was like, I'm like low key jelly. Because I always want. I look. This is so California. Like luxury problems. But like, love our pool. Love it so much. But I was like, why is our pool dark and everyone's is so blue and sparkly? Like, I never could understand why ours are like painted dark blue or something.

[Moses]

Our tiles, it's just the color of the stucco inside.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's the tile. So yours must be painted what his

[Moses]

are white, Lighter blue. There's different colors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ours looks like.

[Moses]

Because usually they do. It's called midnight. It's like a really dark.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's why it's. It's a little. It's a little scary, right? It's a little scary. I didn't notice it until I would see like a pool like yours. And I was just like, wait, why is everyone has a sparkly blue and ours is like a little. A little spooky. A little. I mean, I love it, but a little scary. It's just dark. It's just dark. So it's just like. Anyways, love our pool. Grateful for a pool, of course. But yours is very pretty and sparkly. And it just was giving. It was giving everything. I was so. I was so excited. I was like, oh, my God, I want to see. Are you having housewarming?

[Oscar Craven]

I probably should once things are warmed up. Although I was thinking about it too. I was like, friends literally consist of you guys and Demi.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's gonna be a little.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, it'll be a work thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'd be fun.

[Oscar Craven]

I was thinking about that too, because I don't know how this came up in my brain, but let me get. I'll get there. But I remember because your birthday party was basically people you work with. And I was thinking, like, who would be my kind of similar situation with a housewarming or birthday, whatever. And I'm like, it really is just people I pretty much work with. But when you're old, that is kind of the tea. Like you have your family and then that you are. That you see. And then you work people, who is like the other half of your life. And that's like your whole life.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's your whole life. Well, we talked about that. Harry Daniels, he's very much like, you know, people just don't make time free, whatever. And I was like, it's kind of like also like, the older you get, you just don't have the time to make for people. You have the time to make. To work. And that's like it. And so obviously, yeah, you see? I see glam. I see you. And that's it.

[Moses]

And that's the second phase. When you have kids, then you become friends with the parents. With parents. Kids your kids are friends with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Right. Then it's like, now who has kids that we can play with?

[Moses]

And your kids choose your friends. You don't even choose it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's tea at part. I know I gotta schedule Malibu's playdate. It's. I'm getting nervous about it.

[Moses]

It's like, oh, my God. We want to bring a housewarming gift. So you better do a party.

[Oscar Craven]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

If you want that gift. No. And that is one thing. Yeah. You're. Although I think the only person I'd go to like a housewarming your birthday. I don't think I have anyone else in my life either. Jimmy.

[Oscar Craven]

I go to the sea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally us.

[Oscar Craven]

And I was like, I was getting so emotional, like, walking around my house because it's also crazy for me to say, like, y. My house. And then I was like, well, I'm going to cry right now thinking about it because you hear like, oh, me specifically. I guess I saw like an article like a month ago where like, this really top youtuber his. Sorry, Linus tech tips. But Linus tech tips, he just bought a private jet and he also has, like three homes. And like, one of them is, like, on a private island or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar Craven]

And then a couple years ago, there was like a. For an employee came out, like, why I quit. Linus tech tips. And it was like, how he felt, like, undervalued and like, the stagnant wages and like, the employees aren't allowed to talk about wages and how, like, even some of the employees that have been there since the beginning of the channel can't even, like, afford a house. And then I was like, oh, my God, Like, I lucked out. I feel so grateful. I love you guys so much. You guys, I know. I'm so emotional because you have been just the best. I love you guys a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar, you made me cry. That's how I felt seeing you get it too. But, like, because you are so talented and I've always said that and you obviously have worked so hard and for mainstream stuff like that. And you are just so worthy of all of it, because you are. We said it in the hire Daniels too. It's like you are like the backbone of this podcast too. It's like I've done so many without you, and you get it and we get each other. And I feel the same Way we

[Moses]

were texting each other over the weekend when you posted. She was sending me the pictures, and I replied to them, too. I never replied, but I did. And she was sending me. She was getting emotional about, like, how important this is for us, that this is happening and that. I don't know, we're just talking about how much the responsibility we have of the people we work with and all those things. So anyway, we were just happy. We felt the same way we'd feel when Malibu gets a house. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, we're like, this is major. This is a big, important.

[Oscar Craven]

But I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

You work so hard, and you always have worked so hard, and you just get everything done. And even since the tour last year, really taken over the hot topics, as people say. They're like, oscar drives the ship, and you too. We're here to key. I'll get my comments. I'll get my. My opinion, but no one can do it like you. And, yeah, everyone. Everyone's so happy for you. I saw the comments.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm so. I'm just so grateful. For real. Like, I took. I never thought. I never thought in a million years. I'm so emotional. But, like, it just felt like a dream that could never happen. So I'm, like, super grateful. And also, like, you guys have been so supportive throughout the whole process. Like, I don't know what I would have done without you, too. I came to you for everything. And I know not to speak for Jimmy, but we have texts all the time about how grateful we are for you, too, how much we love you, too, and the fact that everyone that works for you adores you. You know, I think it just speaks so much to how sweet you guys are. So I'm just very grateful and very happy.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love you. And Jimmy is next. 100%. 100% next. And that's it, you know, and you help us, we all help each other, and we're very happy for you. Yay. Well, go check out Oscar's vlogs this week. Emma Chamberlain, West Elm furniture in there.

[Oscar Craven]

That pigeon water pitcher. Darian's like, what the hell is this? I said it's Emma Tripping Chamberlain. Don't ask.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, No, I was looking at those beds, too. I was like, damn, they're kind of cute. $2,000. A little crazy, but, hey, we'll have

[Moses]

a place to put the rock I gave you.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, yeah. Oh, well, the anthropology or. Yeah, the anthropology.

[Trisha Paytas]

What better housewarming gift than that? Oh, my gosh. Well, now I'm crying. Oh, my gosh. Well, I love it. I love this shop. It's the best job ever. And you make it the best. And I love us. We do. And even today, getting to our interview together, it is so crazy to also, like, I guess in a different setting, people have saying that too. At the podcast, he had a crew of like six people. He has the old Haktua talk to, I guess he, like, you remember he like, loved octua and so there. They do run a tight ship over there too. The producer was on it. She knew we were on a time schedule. She's like, oh, just time. And she was giving him like last questions and stuff. But it's just so one. I felt old, first of all. You connect so good. I thought like, you were like 20. Because he's 22. Harry Daniels.

[Moses]

Oh, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's really young. And you guys were talking. Alexa. I literally. That's when I felt old. But not a bad way. You just. I feel young all the time. I always feel like I'm 18 and then like I get next to like a 22 year old. I was like, oh, my God. Like, the references, all this, like, it's crazy. But you keep up with it. And that is the magic of Oscar. You can keep up with the 22 and 38 over here. So that was. But it was cool to see you in that setting because I was like, oh, my God. And then people are like, oh, you and Oscar are sitting so close to each other.

[Oscar Craven]

I know. And I didn't realize you. That's like the closest we've ever sat on camera.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny that other people clocked it. They're like, you guys are. Are so next to each other. I was like, yeah, thank you for taking the middle spot too. I knew. I know that middle spot can be a crazy spot, but one, because you do have to do, like side looking, which I hate. And then two, I was in the middle for the Julie Fox podcast and I was always traumatized by that because I was just like, the middle. You're just middle. I don't know how their cameras are set up, but I felt back. So I felt teeny. But I don't know if that's how it's going to be.

[Oscar Craven]

I think so when you had the purse on your shoulder and like you could see it like from the angle you were. So I think you're no, like, teeny tiny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I ended up putting it down because I'm like, maybe I don't think I'm in a hurry or Something, I put it down and not be that. But it was fun. It was a good time. Oh, my gosh. Wow.

[Oscar Craven]

So much tea too. I guess we can't even repeat it, I guess. But finding out the cat's eye tea with Manal, I feel, like, so relieved. Now I. I'm in the know, so now.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was crazy.

[Oscar Craven]

That was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He needs a podcast where he actually spills the tea and not be scared about it. I'm like, you need to just spill. Because he has so much, like, off the record, Oscar notes inside. Like, there were so many inside things. I mean, are you guys DMing? How do you know all this information? I was so lost for most of it. But he is super sweet and he actually. He's a good interviewer. Yeah, it was good. I think that'll be a good podcast. I'm very excited. I need a new podcast to listen to. So it's a good name. I'm surprised no one's had it. That's why I was like, oh, yeah,

[Oscar Craven]

that is a good name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very fitting for him. And you. Well, we're here. Moses, how are you? Oh, check out Moses cooking videos.

[Moses]

I'm good.

[Trisha Paytas]

What'd you do this morning?

[Moses]

Well, I told. I was everywhere. I was like, best buy things. There was so much to do this morning. All right. And I got you the steak for tomorrow. We're doing a special.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm on Tick Tock now, where it's like steak and watermelon. Or like, are you. Have you seen that? Oh, man.

[Moses]

I even got the asparagus that was on the side.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you got this. Very good. Yeah, it's like. It's like steaks and asparagus and a watermelon. They're like in a rows and it's just so aesthetic. And I just been wanting it and guess what?

[Moses]

I don't need this anymore. Like, what happened?

[Trisha Paytas]

Why did you do that?

[Moses]

Like, out of the blue, they just DM'd me. And this. They made one for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. They love doing that. They do that with mine too.

[Moses]

The title is Trisha Paytas official fan account, which is my title on Tick Tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Moses]

It's a picture of us.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that

[Moses]

you were the queen of Egypt and now Moses.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I think I was. I think I was Moses from the Prince of Egypt. I think I was young Moses in that.

[Moses]

But you, no, I think you were like Cleopatra. Like, you looked like. Anyway, that's what the picture is. And then there's all the Other stuff. But yeah, thanks for all the support. I love doing the cooking videos. It's almost at 10, 000 subscribers.

[Oscar Craven]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Moses]

He's going and people are watch. People are making the dishes. That's what's amazing.

[Oscar Craven]

I have seen a lot of tick tocks of people doing your recipes, making the food.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

It's like, it's mind blowing because like I know how much we love those dishes and cherish them and like to see other people enjoy it. Yeah, whole family loved it. They wanted me to do it again. We did it twice. Anyway.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's amazing because I don't even like post because I'm always trying to post my shadow band channel so I always try to post it. So I like haven't posted Moses last couple ones and they've been doing so well and you're crushing it too. Wow. All of us just thriving here.

[Moses]

The year of the whores.

[Trisha Paytas]

Year of the whores. Moving forward, onward, speed ahead.

[Oscar Craven]

No, but you really manifested how weekend two was going to be the weekend to go.

[Moses]

Excuse me?

[Trisha Paytas]

You manifested it.

[Moses]

That was me.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, that was you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't remember.

[Moses]

I just take it I said I remember nothing because everyone said Coachella was horrible. All the accounts and I was like, guys, when everyone talks badly about something, then you go, second weekend is going to be amazing.

[Oscar Craven]

You did say that. That's true.

[Moses]

So you're welcome.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did want to go. I did want to go to the second weekend. It just like even Tana was like, ugh. I take back what I said. Like I would have given anything to be there at Be Burchella Night 2. Like she's like, that looked like everything and more. I did. I got like weirdly emotional too. Even though I know nothing about Billie Eilish and Bieber. Like I know surface level things obviously, but like then I was watching like a whole montage of like Billie Eilish like, like just standing Justin Bieber since she was like 13 and having the posters behind her. And I was just like. Then I got emotional. I was just like, oh my gosh, like I can't even imagine. I mean obviously she's like super famous now on her own, but like that probably would be so cool. Like full circle. It's doesn't matter what she lesbian.

[Oscar Craven]

She. I believe she is queer. I forgot if she's bi right now, she's dating a boy, not wolf.

[Trisha Paytas]

Got it.

[Oscar Craven]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

It doesn't matter. I don't know why I asked that. Can you even ask that anymore? I don't think you should be allowed to. So sorry, my interested thoughts got to me. I just have. Oh, Happy lesbian awareness week or no. Lesbian visibility. Visibility, yes, awareness, Be aware, beware. Lesbian visibility. You know, lesbians are my all time favorite people of 2025 and I think it's going into join noise. Like, lesbians are my everything. Like I really do want a whole tour where just lesbians come and no one else. Like that needs to be the role. But I know all my lesbian friends, they're a lot of their awakening. I would say like 50 was Justin Bieber and not in like a mean way or anything, but they just like that was like, you know, there's always a moment, right, where you remember like being feeling urges or whatever like that. And like 50 of my lesbian friends were like, oh, it was just a Bieber. Which I think is like so interesting. I don't know. I think it's interesting. It just is interesting. I suppose, I guess you just, you do. I don't know when you start feeling stuff. My first one, oh, I mean, it's a little inappropriate, but it was Donny Asm and Joseph dream coat, which is like biblical but like he was in like a loin cloth. And I remember being like. I remember being like nine. Okay. Anyways, we don't talk about him if you want. That's weird to talk about, but I do remember it's gross. Why am I talking about this? We can just keep it. I just got excited. I got excited for Billie Eilish. That was the whole thing. And I got excited for her. And then I looked at the whole one less lonely girl trend and I guess like he does it at every. He did every. Every show.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, like that was the thing, you know, like, who's going to be the one less lonely girl?

[Trisha Paytas]

But you think he knew the girl that he brought up?

[Oscar Craven]

Like someone knew the fan. Like a random, you know, Zara Larson brings up someone to do like the Lush, Lush Life dance.

[Trisha Paytas]

But do you think it's random or you think they plan it because like Britney, like planned, you know, like Tyler

[Moses]

Oak usually vet the.

[Trisha Paytas]

And yeah, I don't think you'd randomly

[Moses]

pick because you have to also have them at a certain spot queued, ready to go. It's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Matthew Morrison does that. It's a specific person. I noticed it because he picked Chris Olson the first night, but then I noticed he did it with Jonathan Groff and John Groff was in the same seat, so I'm assuming. And they did it with his daughter who was also in that same seat. So I'm assuming they.

[Oscar Craven]

I know. Or no, I know for Taylor. I mean, I don't know how it works for every artist, but for Taylor, for the aero story specifically, it was like the 22 hat where they pick a little girl. Her team, like, is kind of scouting for, like, just an excited, like, little girl or little child, because it's both genders, but yeah. And then her. Her tour person. Her name's Erica. Like, she'll go. She'll be like, okay, now it's time. They'll escort the. The parents or guardian with the child to, like, the exact spot to be and then tell them, like, what to do and be like, okay, she's gonna give you that. And then you can, like, shake her hand and tell her you love her. And then so they kind of prep her in advance, but for 90 of the time, it was like, someone that they scouted at the tour. Sometimes I'd be like, like, Kobe Bryant's daughter. And Taylor was quite close with Kobe, so Kobe Bryant's, like, daughter was there for one. And then so they set that up for, like, specific.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. So, like, if you know someone.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craven]

That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I looked up because I was like, wait, they're young. And then they, like, together 10 years. And I was like, oh, my God. And he was. She was the one less lonely girl at the wedding, which I kind of like. I feel like it's a little cheesy, but I would. I would love it, I guess, if you marry your fan. Yeah, if you're, like a fan. And she said that too. I don't know what it was, some documentary or something. And she's like, oh, it's like I was giddy. And I was like, yeah, I guess he would be like, that is kind of. That is so crazy. Like, you're a fan. Obviously she was a fan because she's like, met him and stuff like that before. But it's like, that is so weird to, like, marrying. It, like, works out crazy. And then, like, it'd be hard. And then it's like, well, you look at him like a person or like an idol.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm sure at one point the allure of it being like, an actual celebrity probably wears off. And then it's just like any old person. You know what I mean? I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every time I see Donnie as. When I'm still like, but if you,

[Oscar Craven]

like, we're with him every single day of your life, I'm sure it would wear off at some point.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder that. I do wonder. I'll never know, but I do wonder that. I'm always like, I Wonder if you're still like, wow, you're a celebrity. How do you feel about me? Do you look at me like, wow, that's a celebrity? No, you never think like, wow.

[Moses]

So there's. It's almost like when. Like, how you feel about it when you're in glam or not in glam, you know, I mean, like, you feel a certain Persona shows up. So, like, it's like when we're in public and people see you and they get this joy of meeting you. Like, it. It's infectious. Like, I feel that joy. You know what I mean? Like, I can feel it and I can. Like, it's. It's a very unique situation because it's like a win, win situation. Like, there's a gift being given, but there's nothing really happening. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So, like, there. So I feel that energy. So it depends, you know, if you go on stage and there's 5,000 people, you feel that energy and you feel. So there's. So it shifts, you know, not just in the daily.

[Trisha Paytas]

When we're eating dinner. Wow, look at that beautiful celebrity.

[Moses]

Well, I always look at you and think you're beautiful, but I think it just is a. There's a moment that you're mine, and there's moments that you're not mine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow. I'm always yours, you know, But.

[Moses]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Because, like, when you're on stage, there's 5,000 people. I'm like, they. They have a certain connection to you that is different. And at that moment, you're. You're. You're theirs.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like the Little Debbie's.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

From Hacks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you watch this last episode? That made me cry too, maybe.

[Moses]

Yeah, that episode, if I didn't have

[Trisha Paytas]

my tubes out, I would think I'm pregnant. I swear. I was, like, been craving chicken and waffles lately. I cried at Hacks. I cried. Like, I've been crying everywhere. And that one, oh, my God, when she went to the convention, and it was like, it's so great. Like, it's so fictional, but, like, so it feels so real too. And she was like, basically, does anyone care? I'm gonna do a real quick. Yeah. So she was like, you know, Deborah Vance is, like, comedian, and she's like, in her 70s, and she wants to be Maskewara. And, like, no. No one? Like, Maske Award. I was like, no, I don't think you're big enough for that. They're like, maybe Radio City. I was like, first of All Radio City is huge. When they said that, I was like, that's also ginormous. But okay. But she's like, no, I wanna do mask where. So she goes to her convention, one of those, like fan conventions, which I like love, which is like so funny because, like Billy Baldwin, I have so many pictures with him. Because when I used to do those conventions, he was at all those conventions and I love that they actually had him there. It was so funny. But she goes and shake all my Little Debbies with her, which is such a good name for fandom. Oh my God. All the Little Debbies were there and well, they were pissed because she hasn't been. She hasn't been connecting with her fans. And I was just like, oh my God. Okay. Yes. So she didn't reconnect because all those Little Debbies, as soon as the call to action had to happen, she need you all to let Madison Court Garden know you want me. And they did that and then they came through for her. And then she got a spot at Madison Square Garden on 9 11, took me out. It was. That show was written so well. I was like cackling. I was like, so. And it also made me really, like, emotional. I was like, oh my God. Her fans came through because it's like her fans are from all walks of life. And I just. It also feels like we would share a fan base if Deborah Vance is real. Yeah, I feel like those are like, you know, and. And it is like the parasol. Tana said that too. She says it so well. It's like the parasocial of it is like, it's. It's so real. Like you were saying, like when you. When. I don't know. I don't explain it because it goes both ways with like influencers or specifically me or maybe Tana too. But it's just like you just feel you like. Like I know all mine. Like, I know, like Deborah knew all her like number one fans is like the wrong word to use. Just people who like, support her, like, non stop. And so like, I know all mine on a personal basis. Like, I know Daniel on a personal basis. I know like even like the new ones, like Oscar Craven, just craven. Like I know all them on like a personal, like, it's just. I don't know, you know, those people just ride for you no matter what. And it made me really emotional because, you know, not everyone gets that. But the fact that she had her Little Debbies, even at 70, I hope I see Aiden at 70. I hope I see him at my Ashton. I hope I see all of them. Catherine, Brian. Because it's like, we made it together. We made it through life. We made it to 70.

[Moses]

You'll see them in Vegas in your residency.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Vegas. I'll be there and move to Vegas. Oh, yeah. I would love. I would love to follow Dr. Vance's career. I would love. She has a great career.

[Moses]

Donny Osmond, more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh.

[Moses]

I was thinking Donny Osmond have his

[Trisha Paytas]

career or be his friend.

[Moses]

Yeah. Like having his. His residency in Vegas, like, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does have just all. That's. Maybe. Maybe. I would love Harris. Let me know if he ever retires. Anyways, it made me really excited about Euphoria last night.

[Oscar Craven]

I sure did. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't caught up on it, but I did see some, like, highlights. Maddie's back.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Maddie had more of an arc this past episode. I'm really just, like, along for the ride. I don't know what the hell is going on. None of it really makes sense. But you know what? I'm seated regardless to see what the hell is going down. There's one scene that I'm kind of obsessed with when, like, Maddie. Her big. Her big reunion with Cassie. And it's kind of like a power dynamics thing. Like, Maddie wants to look really successful, and they're meeting, like, at a pool, a hotel pool or something. Mind you, it's like summer. It's la. They have Alexa Demi in a fur coat with her bikini underneath with, like, leather gloves. And I'm like, you know what? What the hell? Shore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Okay. So good. No, I love that moment too, because she looks just so good, so classy. Everything's like, you're forgiven. I, like, feel like I watched episode because I seen so many clips on it. I gotta watch it because it comes on Sunday nights. And, like, Sunday nights we're sleeping, so we always have to watch on, like, a Thursday or something like that. But she did look fierce. I. You know, I'm too. I'm also, like, I don't know, because also, I don't know, like, the characters, but I'm getting to know them because I'm like, Jules, she seems like she's the only one, like, well, like, done and, like, she's, like, in a Penthouse. And, like, she has it figured out. What did she do in high school? You know what I mean? Now makes me want to go rewatch the first episode. So who are these people in high school?

[Oscar Craven]

I think the. Whatever happened in the past two seasons has nothing. I only watched season one, but I feel like I know enough about season two and, but seeing the discourse, everyone's like, this makes no sense for the character. And I'm like, it's, you know, a lot can happen post pandemic, I suppose. But yeah, my favorite thing about the show, like, timing wise, the fact that it takes place, I guess in like 2022, 2023. But the aesthetic is like 60s.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Craven]

Like, why do Cassie and Nate Jacobs live in like, their kitchen is chartreuse, like floor to ceiling. Floor to ceiling chartreuse. It makes no sense. They have a circular bed. Nothing aesthetically makes sense with like, it being 2022. And I kind of like love it. I don't know. It's like nuts. It's so nuts.

[Trisha Paytas]

The whole thing is, the whole thing's confusing. But, you know, people love it. People love it, right?

[Oscar Craven]

Or are seated. The viewership went up 40% from season two for season three. So far. I think people are very curious about what the hell is going to go on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that crazy? People always like, I always see so much, like, criticism everywhere. But if those numbers are up, people want to know.

[Oscar Craven]

And also their stars have all risen exponentially since season two. Like, it is kind of insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

And Zendaya's acting is also so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good.

[Oscar Craven]

She is like, so in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craven]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craven]

I might at least, you know, she had creative differences and stuff. And the fact she showed up to work and she is still, like, giving it 100. Like, the Emmy campaign is going to be fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. No, she's not. I think she's, like, the only actress that's like. Of her, like, star quality and big name that, like, it doesn't feel like you're watching Zendaya. It feels like, literally, it's very transformative. Yeah. I feel like even in, like, some of her movies, like, I feel like challengers. It's like, I. She's a great actress, but it's like a little bit of Zendaya. A little bit of Zendaya. This one is like. Like, who's this?

[Oscar Craven]

Like, same thing with the drama. Like, she really has gotten so much better. She was already great at acting, but she's gotten even better. Like, she's so good. I forget that she's straight and married to Tom Holland because as Rue, she really been looking like a lesbian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lesbian visibility week.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm. I'm. Rue is visible to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love the lesbianic arc for sure. Like, we're seeing all of it.

[Moses]

Because Zendaya will get an EGOT one day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

100.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, there.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. She's like the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does she have anything right now?

[Oscar Craven]

Emmy. She won that Emmy twice for Euphoria season one and two.

[Moses]

She was the youngest. No. Or something like that.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. And then the. I think the youngest to win it twice, too. And I think the only black actress to win it twice. Wow. For the same role. And they had. The Emmy campaign is gonna be fierce because I don't know if it goes. No. Euphoria is a drama. I was gonna say if it goes against hacks, that's going to be tough because of Deborah.

[Moses]

She already has that one. She needs all that.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. She needs the O, the T. And

[Trisha Paytas]

then she can get it easily.

[Oscar Craven]

I think if she went back to singing, she could get that Grammy. I. I love her song Replay. Have you ever heard.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Craven]

Put this song on replay. I could listen to it all day. You remember when she was at Coachella,

[Trisha Paytas]

she performed that Coachella.

[Oscar Craven]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you know, her whole musical art 2022.

[Oscar Craven]

I think she made us a special appearance to sing, I think Labyrinth. She sang the song from Euphoria season two.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's words to it.

[Oscar Craven]

It's like. It's called all for Us.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like, still don't know your name. That one.

[Oscar Craven]

I have no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was the one on TikTok that everyone was doing where it's like, yes,

[Oscar Craven]

it is that one. Yes. So I think she could definitely tap back in and get that granny whenever she wants.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Zendaya. I'm a fan. Oh, I'm locked in.

[Oscar Craven]

But I guess back to Coachella. Speaking of. Wait, What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Before we're gonna Coachella. Wait, can you. Can you talk about your music video? I forgot to ask you about that. Oh, yeah, I need to know. I was like. That's why I was so excited to talk to you about.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, yeah, I filmed it last week. I literally left here. Last Wednesday was crazy, because I went from here straight to the music video. But then also, I had to, like, my house got, like. Was closing, so I had to, like, go to the bank right after here, wire the money, and then I had to meet someone to sign all the paperwork. Then they were gonna come meet me on a set of the video. I was like, I want set for a music video. So I actually. And I don't know when I'm gonna be available, because I. I don't know, like, what time we rap.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar Craven]

They're like, well, we can find out.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're a euphoria.

[Moses]

I gave you the tip that day. I was like, don't come to where you are.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, you actually did clock it, and you did clock it was a lot of paperwork, and you weren't lying.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like, we're coming to you.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, but it was like. And it was in Malibu Calabasas, but, like, the hills, like, literally, I. It was a dirt road. I had to drive up. And, like, the directions were like, the GPS is gonna be wrong. But it's like, you go up the hill, up the dirt road, you're gonna pass the horses, past the horses, on the left is where you'll pull in. I was like, what the. And it was, like, middle of nowhere. I was kind of stressed because I also had to get the cards to Jimmy, and I felt so bad. So I was, like, trying to call Jimmy and tell him, but I was losing service. And I thought about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

When he left, I literally was like, did Oscar take the cars? It's like, we should have, like, just. Yeah, okay, I know.

[Oscar Craven]

I was like, jimmy, I'm gonna. I'm finish here. I'm gonna let you know. But, yeah, it was pretty quick. I saw Misha shout out Misha Spice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she a cameo in, or was she just there?

[Oscar Craven]

She was another cameo for the scene I was in, and it was really cute. It was a fun time the artist team was very, very sweet. Everyone was so lovely. She is lovely.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you get a scene time? Are you on screen with the artist?

[Oscar Craven]

Yes, and I have. I didn't know. She was like, I actually want dialogue in this scene. And I was like, oh, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Improv. It was very.

[Oscar Craven]

Yes. And I was like, I'll give it to you, girl. Let me give you a little improv.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were you nervous at all?

[Oscar Craven]

The only reason I was nervous is because I was having the worst stomach pain. Like, it was, like, cramping and, like, I was just, like, worried about not being present because my stomach was hurting so bad. I think I was just stressed with, like, so many, like, balls in the air at one time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

So that was the only thing that I was, like, stressed about was just, like, trying to be present when my stomach was hurting so bad. I was, like, gonna keel over. But everyone was like, nice. And it was pretty quick.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what did you. How many people were in the scene with you?

[Oscar Craven]

Kind of a lot. Well, there's me and the artist, and I, like, had, you know, we're in the front, we had our dialogue, and then there was, like, a group behind, and Misha was a part of the ensemble behind. But then other scenes, like, it kind of shifts. Like, there's another.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you're in multiple scenes.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm in one scene. But then it shifts. Like, there's different male protagonists, if. If that makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. And are you seen in the other ones or no?

[Oscar Craven]

No, I have my one main scene, so it was kind of quick. It was like an in and out kind of thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. That's, like, never the case in music videos.

[Oscar Craven]

They had clothes pulled for me, which was nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, that's great. Oh, my gosh. I was going to ask you about that. I was just like, oh, man, I want to do that.

[Oscar Craven]

It was really fun. And then Oscar crave, I feel, so I really need to just tell him who it is. But he was like, is it Pink Panthers? And posted about it. I was like, let me manage expectations. Not Pink Panthers. I'm not Manoa. Coachella.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of in the same game caliber. They were both at Coachella.

[Oscar Craven]

True, true.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

But Pink Panthers, I think, was like, main stage or something. She's just like. She's. She's number one.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Coachella is. Is hard to get no matter what. You didn't tell even Oscar crazy.

[Oscar Craven]

No, I should. I should clear it up and say

[Trisha Paytas]

who it is, give a little insight so they know, but it doesn't come out till July.

[Oscar Craven]

So we have some time.

[Trisha Paytas]

July.

[Oscar Craven]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why is it taking so long?

[Oscar Craven]

They filmed two videos that day, so I think they're doing the first. Yeah, it'll be a rollout, I suppose.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, they are busy.

[Oscar Craven]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, after the podcast on Wednesday, we had a film, Patreon for the week. And I was like, oh, what should we do? So I was looking at my list stuff and I was like, let's do the hike, Moses. On the way there, he was like, I thought we were doing this with Jimmy and Oscar. And I was like, why don't you want to go on a hike with me? You were, like, annoyed that we were doing the hike. And I was like, well, you were. You're like, oh, I just thought it was gonna be more people. And I was like, we are a duo.

[Moses]

Group hike.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, that would be so weird. A group hike.

[Moses]

People go on hike, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyways, you can go to patreon.com just trish. And let me tell you, good thing you and I didn't go. We would have been dead.

[Oscar Craven]

Really dead.

[Moses]

Oh, my God. This was.

[Trisha Paytas]

And not from the cardio. There was wild animals. There's. It's just people actually. On Patreon, half the people loved it. Other half was like, this gives me anxiety. Like, literally. People were like, I'm so stressed. It was.

[Moses]

It was like, what's the Blair Witch?

[Trisha Paytas]

Something which project real life. And I was genuinely scared.

[Moses]

For me, in the middle of the day, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's what was even scarier. And hopefully our conclusion was right, because I was like, well, I think what happened was. But we just. There was a. I was terrified. I was terrified. It was so scary. It was the scariest thing I've ever done in my life. And never again. Never again will I ever go on a hike. That was the craziest thing we've ever done. I wanted to go back immediately, but I couldn't go back the way we came because there was someone screaming. And I'm like, I'm not about to go back to the Scream anyways. You'll have to see what it is. But I was. I booked it. I had Moses to film me running up that hill as fast as I can because I was so scared. Yeah, well, I did the whole 20 mile thing, per Oscar suggestion, when we were talking about Brook Monk. And by the way, it wasn't me. Someone's like, oh, Trisha. Making fun. I was like, first of all, it was just like, oh, my God, it was a parody. I thought it was Funny in camp. And she showed that she did the 20 miles. Clearly, I did not. Like, what? Like, people were saying, you saw the bridge the same time. And I was like, so? So I. My goal was to do mile one, mile two, mile three. Like, I was. I wanted to hike for, like, a good hour, but we lasted probably, like, 25 minutes. And I was like, no. And then that's why I skipped from mile seven to mile 20. Because was just like, I can't do this. I can't even do it for a jokes or parody. Because I was so scared. I was, like, shaking. And it was a beautiful day, but there was nobody on the hikes. You know, you go to Running Canyon, and there's, like, literally 100 people.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not one person on this hiking trail. The first hiking show, Moses pulls up to, he left the room. But, like. But the first one was like, the. Like, a big, bushy area. I was like, absolutely not. And then the second one was more paid, but not one person was out there. Nobody. That was crazy. And then we just heard screaming. And then there was, like, little, like, wild animals everywhere. We had no club, no piece of wood, nothing. I was like, shouldn't you go with something in case you see, like, a mountain lion or some. Obviously we see them around our house, but we have protection. Moza had nothing. So then he grabs a stick out of the woods, and he's just like. I'm like, what are you gonna do with the stick? It was just. Anyways, so we put together. I ended up editing it. I felt bad because, well, then I didn't want Jimmy to have, like, extra work or anything. And then I knew you were busy, so I was like, well, let me just edit this. Which I think made it seem more stressful for people. I don't think it became, like, cute in camp because even Mose was like, oh, I thought Jimmy was gonna do something fun with it.

[Moses]

And I was like, because at least he can enter the.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses]

Comedic relief.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe he can just edit it for a bonus video for it for fun now. Because I do feel bad for everybody. They're like, I said, half the people, like, love this. Other half. I was like, this gave me so much anxiety, I can't watch it. And I was freaked out the entire time. It was getting Blair Witch. It was us holding the camera the whole time because I thought if something happens, like, we need to film it. Crazy stressful. So that was ours anyways. That was it. All right, back to.

[Moses]

You should go watch it, because I don't want to spoil too much because I mean her assumptions of what hiking is, it was so far away from what hiking is while you were gone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was like, it should. Brian Canyon is 100 people. This has zero people.

[Moses]

Which is so nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Speak it to existence. But now that we're not walking hiking ever again, I just was literally like, also it always starts with like. Like the husband and wife were married for six years and then one goes missing. And I was just like, no, absolutely not. Because he was too calm. He was being too calm about it. I was like, actually, no, actually, let's go back. You know what I mean? I just, I. I did not like any of it. So it was. Anyways, it was a vlog. I needed a vlog. I had to put it up, you guys. Sorry if it stressed people out. That's what we had. It was the only day we had to work with and that's what happened there. So it was at the end. It was all good. There's a resolution. Everything's fine. I think we figured out what the. The screams were.

[Moses]

It was insane though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it might have been. Yeah, we figured out maybe. Anyways, go see what it is. But what else did we do? I guess that was it. That was last.

[Moses]

We did so much that day. A day we did so much. It was Patreons and filming.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craven]

Minus the occasional intrusive thought about Billie Eilish's sexuality.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right. So sorry, that was so weird, but it is lesbian visibility.

[Moses]

Surprise. Coachella and lesbian weekend. Do you have James Charles singing in Coachella?

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, I did have James Charles re Coachella. I got you. Do your James Charles Hot Topic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, gosh.

[Oscar Craven]

I guess.

[Moses]

I mean, it's probably the same. No, let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

I doubt it. Oh, wait. I'm so confused. What are we watching? It looks like there's a crowd around him.

[Moses]

It's like. Yeah, it's like the ones in the mall. The old fashioned ones where he sits on the floor and singing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, see it one more time.

[Moses]

There's this one girl next to him. She's like,

[Trisha Paytas]

also not that big of a crowd. I thought there was like a thousand people around him. I'm like, what is this, 2017? Like, what is happening? Oh, okay. It wasn't that big of a crowd.

[Moses]

Or is it predicting calling 91 1? I don't know.

[Oscar Craven]

He has a song.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's called 901.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, I. I only know because I saw there's like a tick tock trend. I don't know how many people are doing it, but they're doing a dance to this song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it his song? Yeah, it's his song.

[Oscar Craven]

He Hasn't a single or coming out. I don't know. 9:1. It's like a. Like a 911. I have an emergency.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you are the emergency. Don't tell people how. 9, 1, 1.

[Moses]

Now they know how to.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a crazy song for him. Okay, well, that's crazy. He's been blocked. He's been blocked from a me, so I literally never see him, and it's bliss. And then when I see it, I'm just, like, triggered inside.

[Oscar Craven]

I know because I saw a Coachella, like, roundup video that talked about another aspect of James Charles at Coachella weekend, too. It was. He did a brand deal with a private jet company to go to Coachella weekend, too. And the whole thing was like, oh, I'm not actually going for the festival. I'm going just to get content because I'm going to recreate one of my past Coachella looks that everyone's talking about. So he went down for weekend to not to, like, see any artists, just to remake his Instagrams and this one of his old Coachella outfits and I guess also so terrorize a group of fans. They're like, we're just here to see Addison Ray. Yeah, we're like. I mean, Addison Ray's on in, like, 45 minutes. Like, that's why I'm standing out here.

[Trisha Paytas]

He went to the main stage where people are waiting early. He's like, I'm gonna be here at. Yeah, that was like you said. The girl next to him was like, not.

[Oscar Craven]

This is not feeling it.

[Moses]

Yeah, I lost Jimmy to zoom in.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, I lost Jimmy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well. Or not, Docs, the girl try out with me in this video, she didn't ask to be any it. So, I mean, okay, I will say I kind of like, not the James Charles of it, but I do like the idea. Like, Nikki did, too. It was like doing. Going down to get the. Who else did that?

[Moses]

Was it all the influencers?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but they didn't even go to the festival. Was it Harry Daniels or. No, someone else said they just went. Oh, my makeup artist, Ronnie just went to. Well, he was doing makeup, but he, like, just went to the festivals and, like, stayed in the house.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, a lot of people do go down or go up to Coachella just to do the activations and the events outside without needing, like, an actual wristband. But he literally just went. Took a private jet. The private jet was just him. Like, it wasn't even. Like, he brought friends he did a brand deal with for a private jet. It was like just him and I guess the person filming him to fly up there, take Instagram pics, make little terrorizing tick tocks and then come back.

[Trisha Paytas]

So like, how much fuel did we use for that exactly? How many? Oh, what?

[Oscar Craven]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Another 10 years of all of our lives because we can't breathe because of James Charles doing a tick tock in a private jet by himself. At least bring people with you. That's what I'm saying.

[Oscar Craven]

I think. And like in the comments too, he was like doubling down and like being sassy with everyone who was like clocking, like, does you really need to take a private jet? And he was like, it's either this or being six hours of traffic. And I'm like, girl. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Gross. Gross. Why? I hate, I don't hate James Charles. I absolutely hate his attitude. I hate his attitude. Just thinks he's better. The way he like mocks things. Like, I just, it's so, it's so condescending. It's so out of touch. It's not good for him. I think that's what it is. The energy that surrounds this of him is like this negative energy that is only gonna like cater more negativity towards him. It's just like gross. It's like this weird cocky behavior that doesn't work well and well for anybody, you know what I mean? In the influencer world. So I don't like it. I know he's been very popular. Also not to cancel this jet company, but who's this jet company? That's just. At least Starbucks, at least they brought. Got lots of people, you know what I mean? It's like, it wasn't just like what? It's like, yeah, weird. I don't know. And is it that good for their brand to have James Charles alone?

[Oscar Craven]

Because at least the other ones you can kind of rationalize a little bit

[Moses]

by like, okay, nobody else wanted to destroy nature like him, Gaga. Yeah, he's the only one that agreed.

[Oscar Craven]

Me just agreeing with everything. Yeah, yeah. But the other ones were gonna go like with or without him, you know what I mean? Like, like there's. If he didn't take a spot, if an influencer didn't take up a spot in the pj, they'll just invite another one. But this was literally just for one person.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I hate that. I hate, I hate all of that.

[Oscar Craven]

People who like follow James Charles, a lot of them are young. Like, are they really going to be like, oh, I'm influenced to now rent a private jet? Like, no. So crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Yeah. Don't. And actually don't do that for yourself. That's so weird. Like, I guess if you're taking. I don't know. I always say no also because, like, just the dangers of project. They sound scary. Don't do it. But definitely don't hate about yourself.

[Oscar Craven]

It's so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's selfish and weird. And like, he gives me a little twitch. You know what I mean? Like, I just get a little twitch in my eye when I think about him.

[Oscar Craven]

And the other gag of Coachella was of course, the Sabrina and Madonna collab, which.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or the lack of gag.

[Oscar Craven]

Clock it. You are so right. Like, why was the crowd not moving? I keep seeing this one thing, like the live chat in the YouTube live stream when Madonna came on the first time and Sabrina transitioned from Juno to Vogue. And I was like, have you ever tried this one? And then the Vogue instrumental played.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

And everyone in the chat was going, oh, my God, it's RuPaul. I mean, I like that, love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I'm so dead more relevant to Gen Z than Madonna. Look, I think Madonna is like a legend in iconic hun. But I do know the crowd went mild when she came out.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. And. But it was a gag. Like, everyone kind of knows. Like, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Craven]

I saw a tweet that was like, you kind of have to respect Madonna like you respect your granny. Because everyone came out of Hikuchi. And that is so true. Like, Madonna has birthed. Every pop girl in existence has been influenced by Madonna in some way or another either.

[Moses]

And she had to fight for it. It wasn't an easy journey for her.

[Oscar Craven]

So you gotta just give her her 10.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

I mean, she's my generation. Like, I grew up listening to Madonna, not anyone listening to Sabrina Carpenter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she wasn't alive yet. Jeez.

[Moses]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like, nobody was listening

[Oscar Craven]

to Sabrina when I grew up back then.

[Moses]

No,

[Trisha Paytas]

that's what he's saying. She paved the way. All the ones that came after her are paying.

[Moses]

But I'm just saying that, like, I like knowing her history, appreciating what she's done. Like, people don't know. They just know her as a big star, you know, they don't know that she had to work hard to get there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Clock it. Tell them, oh, it's in more. Let's keep going.

[Moses]

There's more. But I don't know if that's the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Gen Z won't ever know even. I really don't know. I just know Britney Spears loved herself For a minute, I was like, I love her too. Because Britney, like, she performed with Britney Spears. Like, that was a huge deal. When they kissed at the VMAs, like, it's a whole thing. I think it would have been gaggier because I do feel like, like, Gen Z's Madonna is Britney because Britney is like our generation. But, like, to them, it's like, old, you know, it's like the millennials liked her. And I feel like that's us with, like, the boomers is like, Madonna was like, the boomer. Britney basically.

[Moses]

Don't point at me when you say boomer.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, the people who love, like, grew up with Madonna. She's a boomer. She's 68. She's boomer vibes, which is like, nothing bad. That's what she is. But better than being. I will spent my weekend and we'll go back to Coachella. I'm not diverting from this, but I did spend my weekend. I'm also on. I'm off of AI Fruit. Tick tock. Because obviously killing our planet. I'm not trying to do that, but I am on. What are you talking about? Millennial cringe. Tick tock. Oh, have you. We gotta do a whole patreon. Just reacting to these. I actually, like, hide under the sheets, want to pee my pants. Like, face turns red. Like, I hate this so much. I actually hate millennials. I think they're the worst. I'm not one of you at all. I will do anything to de age myself or update myself to Boomer. I will do anything it takes. Because I am just so. I hate us. I. It's very the. You know, we've done it before with. There's one that they did the Taylor Swift, like, ooh, she's small girl and he's large boy. And I'm like, I hate it so much. We watched a video a while ago too, of, like, millennial YouTubers used to be like that. Like, no, it's just, like, so, so annoying. I mean. And you know what you have celebrities for Lawrence was in one where they're like, oh, do a face that would ruin a picture. Like, I just like. And I just. I hate millennials. And I am one and it's so. But I feel like I'm not millennial cringe. Am I like, Am I that person? No, I'm not. Right? Yeah. I'd be like, I think I like this. You know, Like, I don't think I'm like that ever. Right. But I know so many people. God, it's the most annoying. I hate them so much. Anyways, that was my tick tock and I hate Millennials. But side note, I. I will say I'm not gagged by Madonna. I think it's a flex to bring her out. I think it is. Know I love Donnie Osmond. That's who I'd bring out. Coachella. So I'm not trying to like on anything. I'm not trying to be like, oh, the worst.

[Oscar Craven]

The crowd at truce Chella. When you bring out and be like,

[Trisha Paytas]

let's get down to business, they would go crazy anyways. I don't even think he's like, anyways. But I mean, it's a huge deal

[Moses]

for her to sing with Madonna as a singer.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a big.

[Moses]

And she did something with Dolly Parton, so it's like, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

But people weren't gagged for that either. I really just think, like, Gen Z and like, that's totally fine because obviously old people just get old. I don't think they're, like, gagged by those people. I don't think they understand. They're like, legendary.

[Moses]

Yeah. They don't need to be. It's really for her. She can do things that she enjoys and wants.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think she cares?

[Oscar Craven]

She loves Madonna. I mean, how it happened was Madonna's agent was talking to her at the SNL50 celebration, and her Madonna's agent, like, introduced himself to Sabrina and she went, oh, my God, I love Madonna. And then she like, sang at karaoke at the SNL 50 celebration like a virgin. And then Madonna's manager came up with an idea for them to collab at some point. And there's also like a tweet that went viral after their performance. Sabrina Wood from, like, I think like 2017, where she was reacting to a Madonna performance and she just tweeted, madonna killed that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

She could be talking about anything, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, so it's like super fan check. Okay, got it.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, she really does live for Madonna. And honestly, I wasn't like, super gagged either. I mean, there was rumors that Madonna was going to come out anyway, so the element of surprise was gone. But I was covering it for work. I had to cover it Friday night and Saturday afternoon. And at first I was like, I don't know what to cover because I did all this weekend one, like, what is new for me to cover? And then she brought up Madonna and I was like, thank you, Sabrina. Now I have something to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did it get views?

[Oscar Craven]

It did, but the one that went Viral out of all of them was like, like a prayer. And it got like, like 2 million likes on Instagram and I think, like, like over 30 million views on ours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. But then 30 million views in one

[Oscar Craven]

day, like, within less than 24 hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess people were gagged then.

[Oscar Craven]

But then Coachella took it down all our Instagram reels. I know they're still live on Tick Tock and people are using the sound, which is why.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why do they do that?

[Oscar Craven]

Copyright, I guess. I don't know. The festival's over T and it's on YouTube live. Like, it's not like, I guess report

[Moses]

the news like you guys reporting.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It's not about.

[Oscar Craven]

And I edit it too. Like, I have to. You have to, like, make it a little bit. You editorialize it is what they call it. So I've, like, put a headline on it and then edit the video so it's not like just like in and out of the song. Like, I kind of make it a little package into like 45 seconds. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ah, that's annoying.

[Oscar Craven]

I know. Because I was up to like 1am editing it, but it's still up on TikTok and people are using the. This. The sound from Like a Prayer. And Sabrina sounds. Sounds so good on Like a Player. Specifically, the vocals were crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's amazing. I know. People, like, are, like, not gagged for her anymore. I'm like, her performance was boring. I was like, what? Like, it is kind of crazy. Like, I don't. I'm kind of like in the middle with her. And I'm like, I thought it was pretty good.

[Oscar Craven]

But then I think also the Coachella crowd in general, because Addison Ray's performance. Have you seen this one Tick Tock of her? Like, it's a clip from the live stream. She's like, coachella, who's excited to be here? And then the crowd, she puts them back to the crowd. She goes, okay, I guess we're not having as much fun as I thought we were.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so. So I guess that is just the Coachella vibe. There is like, I think everyone has

[Oscar Craven]

their phones out and is just like, getting the content. And Degass, I mean, even Tana talking about Beaverchella weekend one when no one was, like, really feeling it until, you know, the older songs came on. I think the crowd at Coachella just sucks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think it's hard to, like, impress them. I'm sure.

[Moses]

Also, when you have so many stages, so many performers, each person comes to see one person, they're excited about they're not going to be excited about the other ones. So you end up with all this kind of like mixture of people that just happen to be there, a good crowd.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I feel like if you didn't want to see Addison because she goes on early, right? Like, you wouldn't be there. Yeah, yeah. Oh, she went on right before Bieber.

[Oscar Craven]

She goes on like two sets before Justin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Craven]

Stage. But like the headline like a Sabrina or Justin, if you're still there, not gagged like you waited all day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see what you're saying. So maybe people just got there eight hours early to see Justin and Addison just happens to be on performing two sets sooner so they're not gagged by her many more.

[Moses]

I mean, there's how many performers and like there. I know people that go just to see this one DJ or this one group.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was kind of gagged for Billy Corgan on Somber. I was like, anyone?

[Moses]

And the crowd goes wild.

[Oscar Craven]

That's me. Somber brings. I like, I'm not gagging, but cuz

[Trisha Paytas]

Ronnie, my makeup artist this morning, he's like, yeah, I do Billy Corgan. I was like, what? You do his makeup? I'm like, yeah. He was trying to get me into Coachella to do a Smokey Eye. And I was like, oh, that's the biggest flex. Like, why are you not opening with that? How come you're not gagged?

[Oscar Craven]

Who is that? I'm so serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, you're fired. That's crazy. You're so online. You're so pop culture. Yes. Smashing Pumpkins.

[Oscar Craven]

I've heard of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God,

[Moses]

that era.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

They are so much bigger than. I didn't know Depeche Mod. I don't know any songs by Depeche. They're also like the 80s 80s. Smashing Pumpkins has been like five decades going strong. Performed last year as My Chemical Romance. Like Gerard Way looks up to Billy Corgan. Like, they're like massive. And then Somber just casually brings them out. And I was just like, okay. I guess I'm the only one guessed by that. But to me, that's the real gag. That was the gag of Coachella and no one was talking about it. Is that main stage Somber?

[Oscar Craven]

I think he might have been Sahara.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's a different stage.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So gag. I was like, damn. And then Ronnie said he doesn't make up for like three years. I was like, oh. Oh my God. Like Billy Corgan. I'd love to have you on the podcast. That's only. Yeah. Must have Been main stage. Somber's pretty big, no? Isn't he like the biggest right now?

[Oscar Craven]

He is really big. But the Sahara stage is also big. That's what cat's eye was on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I thought they were main stage too.

[Oscar Craven]

No, Sabrina was main stage.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's up with cat's eyes outfits? Why were they in those undies?

[Oscar Craven]

That's a great question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, they don't need that. They're such good dancers. They're so pretty. They can be in, like short shorts and cute outfits. Like, they were in these, like, I don't know, just those giving pussycat dolls. Like with Robin, Anton and not the Nicole Schroder one. Not the flop one. So sorry. But yeah, it was giving. Not cat's Eye. I was not happy with those outfits. But also maybe because I'm just like, older and I just thought, like, these are pretty girls. They deserve pretty outfits and they can be sexy. They don't be that.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, I do kind of like the outfits. Weekend one more like the purple. They're also like a kind of undies coated too. I do like their stylist. They use the same stylist that they always use Katie last name.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. Oh, okay. Well, I was giving like, like, like a male gaze, dress them sort of thing.

[Oscar Craven]

No, it was a girl. Yeah, same stylist. It's a girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess you can't win them all. They weren't. It wasn't my cup of tea.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Even like Laura, I didn't notice. So, like, I looked up close, but like, she was wearing a corset, but the corset was flesh colored. So, like, it looked nude. But like, she was still, like, cinched. It was kind of crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like that idea.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. It was interesting, their performance. I think they did a really good job choreography, vocal wise. But the guy for me, the pop culture for me was pink panthers having. It was. Was Manal Slater chasing infinity. She brought out all the divas just like be dancing in the background. That's a pop music emergency to me personally.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Pink Panthers. Manon. Who else?

[Oscar Craven]

Chase infinity, who's an actress. And Slater.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, love her.

[Oscar Craven]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, there's a queen convention. Yeah. Why weren't you there?

[Oscar Craven]

That's kind of the guy. That's the one moment I was like,

[Trisha Paytas]

oh, was that the stage your fave this this weekend too? Maybe.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, maybe I did. Oh, Addison also brought out Olivia Rodrigo. I was kind of living for that. That was actually pretty gaggy to me because I didn't know Addison and Olivia were that close. I knew they like were friends because they've been like photographed together before, but I didn't know they were that close.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I didn't either.

[Oscar Craven]

Shout out our sister Anna Collins because she choreographed Olivia's and Addison. Oh she worked with Addison's choreographers. But she choreographed Olivia for her performance and her whole music video. And Petra shot it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah. Every. It came out recently.

[Oscar Craven]

Maybe I did this out a couple days last on Friday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Congrats, Olivia Rodrigo, we love you. Well, Oscar loves you. I'm not familiar yet, but I'll get there.

[Oscar Craven]

I love that girl. That's my niece 100.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, we stand her.

[Oscar Craven]

It's crazy that like people you collab with are Olivia's like crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean Slater should be headlined to me. I think she should be like main stage headline everything. Like I think I love Slaters. Everyone loves her too. And I don't understand like why she isn't like literally headliner.

[Oscar Craven]

The she was the 3pm performance I think Friday. But like the crowd that she drew

[Trisha Paytas]

was an so good. It has such a loyal fan base.

[Oscar Craven]

But she's definitely on the up and up. But even like her crowd for that early. I think she was like the first act. The crowd was insane. Like it. It was like thousands of people and not even like one of the main stages too. So she got girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you're my fav. Slater was my favorite. Cat's always my favorite the first weekend. They really lost me that second weekend with every outfits with the outfits and then obviously can't top 100. I did. I did like. I do love Carol G's performance too. I do love that Becky came back. Love Peso Pluma. I love his band. I love his band so much. I loved. I loved everyone. She had J. Belvin. She's a good performer. Like Carol G is like Beyonce to me. She just like. So she kind of my favorite this weekend. Although I did like Justin Bieber is like he looked like he was in a desert or something. I like that.

[Oscar Craven]

And I feel like he. Justin had a little bit more cop. Not even a little bit. A lot more confidence. Like he felt very like he knew he kind of gagged it last weekend and obviously like the results of the songs like going up 400% on streaming platforms. Like he gagged the whole Internet. The views on all the videos from Coachella's Instagram account being so far above everyone else's. I feel like he went into weekend to more confident.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the one that's lonely girl. People go crazy. I saw Alexis Okley. I saw Tana. Everyone's just like, oh, my God, he performed it. I love. Like, I can't. I don't know the equivalent. Do you have an equivalent to. I don't have an equivalent to that. Maybe Donny Osmond. Puppy love. I guess that is kind of the equivalent, but maybe that's it. I don't know. How do you have one?

[Oscar Craven]

My current one right now would be Zara Larson. On her tour, she brings out a fan to do the Lush Life Dance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, is that.

[Oscar Craven]

It's like the trend. The TikTok trend. It's a. The dance to one of her songs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

So she brings someone out to do the choreography with them. Granted, I would be so bad at it, but that would be a gaping singer. No, she already was here. Tickets. She played a smaller venue. I think it was like the. The Wiltern and the. It was post Grammys. It was like a couple weeks after Grammys. So the tickets were just so expensive. They were like $700. I know. And she already is talking about coming back and doing arenas. So upgrading. Sorry, Deborah Vance, but she did book Madison Square Garden.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? Back to Deborah Vans. I will say, can my little fishies. Can you all tweet Madison? I'll do the same deal as her. 20 tickets, y'.

[Moses]

All.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll do $20 tickets. Promise you mask forward. Every seat will be $20. Like I would. That would actually be kind of gaggy. That was a good idea she had. She. All of you get $20 tickets. I'm like, yeah. Just to have. Yeah. Because the first episode, she was trying to get the egot, which also inspired me that maybe I should sing with Mariachi, you know, Jesus Day. You know, I can do it too. I was like, that's a good way to get it. But she was going for the ego. Now she wants to do massive work. She's about leaking, like, legacy. And I really feel like I should do Madison Square Garden too. So anyways, little fishies, if you want, hit up the Garden. Yeah, add up the Garden and I'll do for 20 bucks. Maybe Zara Larson needs an open act.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, wait, that'd be fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm here for your msg.

[Oscar Craven]

That would be fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'd be everything. I love her. No, she is like my queen.

[Oscar Craven]

And then you guys can have a little MSG in the Chinese food afterwards because, you know, she loves a little mukbang after. Yeah, she loves a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you know that?

[Oscar Craven]

Because she posts about it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She has a little eating show. I do love a little msg. Thank you so much to NOCD for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. I am super excited for this new sponsor. As you guys know, I have talked so much and shown so much of my mental health struggles throughout the year, and a lot of times it can have been embarrassing. And at the time I was going through it, it was something that I was not proud of. But at least I can show that there is a journey and there's a way to overcome it. And sometimes those mental health struggles aren't pretty. But if one thing I am thankful for is that it can show that everyone goes through these moments. And I have seen so many people relate to that moment.

[Oscar Craven]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Craven]

A tour that was canceled, however, is the Meghan Trainor tour. And what a controversy was. I feel like artists are canceling tours, like, kind of a lot right now. So I don't know why Meghan Trainor specifically made so much news.

[Trisha Paytas]

She canceled. Well, she has, like, she's having a hate train for a while. People really just don't like her. I don't know why. She seemed nice.

[Oscar Craven]

I literally was Thinking about this, last night, I. When I was typing my notes, I was like, God, her worst offense is really. She's just a little corny and she's skinny now.

[Trisha Paytas]

She sings the same songs, but so does everybody else. Right? They all do sound the same, but she.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, she's a little corny, but you know what? If that's her biggest crime.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

In a world of big offenders these days.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true. My God, she did get skinny. That. I know I can't support anymore. Sorry, girl. Where's all about that base?

[Oscar Craven]

Nice. That is gaggy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but people really did turn on her when she, like, lost weight or something. I don't know. People really just don't.

[Oscar Craven]

I feel like people were already, like, vibing with her already when she was bigger, quote, unquote, right? Because I think people still thought she was kind of corny, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they were not vibing with her when she was bigger.

[Oscar Craven]

I think people still thought she was kind of. Because she kept doing the little doo wop, doo wop kind of sound, right? And then people always bring up her being a guest judge and RuPaul's Drag Race and she's wearing a onesie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that was.

[Oscar Craven]

Was the biggest.

[Trisha Paytas]

That one maybe deserved a cancellation, but she should get out of the Kia Asylum for that. You know what I mean? It's been a couple years. Why did she. Did she ever say why maybe she had a medical problem? Did she say for why she canceled her tour? No. Why she went on RuPaul, like, in a onesie?

[Oscar Craven]

You should reach out for a statement on that, because I don't think she's ever addressed it. She should.

[Trisha Paytas]

She needs to. Well, Chris Olson's been fighting for his life on Tick Tock over. I've just seen, like, 5,000. I didn't know the tour was canceled. I didn't know anything. He was. Was just like, how are you all so mean to Meghan Trainor? He made, like, literally so many tiktoks. I said, I disabled the comments because you all couldn't stop being mean to her. I was like, oh, my God, what's happening?

[Oscar Craven]

It was very sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm laughing because it's, like, crazy.

[Oscar Craven]

It is crazy. Yeah. Well, for the tour, ironically, on April, on April Fool's and Meghan Train. And Meghan Trainor, Stan account tweeted as a prank, Meghan Trainor has canceled her upcoming tour. And my again, the power and putting words out there there never warned everyone at April Fools. Don't do it. And look what happened?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. It was a fan account.

[Oscar Craven]

Like an update account. Like a fan.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like an Oscar crave.

[Oscar Craven]

Yes, but for Meghan Trainer, they cursed it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's why even on our hike, I was already thinking bad things in my head. I was trying to get. I wasn't even saying it. I was already thinking, like, this is gonna go wrong. And then it does. And I'm just like, okay, no. Like, you can't even think bad thing. Damn. Well blame that person. That person should be the one. Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

The tour was supposed to kick off on June 12th in Michigan and then go through 30 arenas across the country.

[Trisha Paytas]

Arenas.

[Oscar Craven]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she did play Madison Square Garden last year.

[Oscar Craven]

True. But again, it was like, just last year. But anyway, she said this is the right decision for me and my family right now. I promise I'll be back soon. I can't wait for you to hear this new record. I'm so proud of it. And I'm endlessly grateful for your love and support as always. And she basically said that she. It's too soon for her to go on tour because she needs to. She just had a baby and she needs to focus on her family. Family. But I think people were speculating for a while. Just, you know, that damn Ticketmaster seating chart will get you, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wasn't selling.

[Oscar Craven]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, but JLO canceled, too. Right. For the same reason.

[Oscar Craven]

That's what I'm saying. A lot of it's been, like, pretty common.

[Trisha Paytas]

If you're gonna flop, you gotta cancel. I suppose. Yeah. I don't know.

[Oscar Craven]

And then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or go to smaller. Why don't you just like. Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

The Pussycat Dolls is also having this problem because they. They just announced the mini reunion because it's only three of them. And they immediately booked arenas, which is so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least Megan Trainer's been touring for.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Like, and to come back. Like, not even for Pussycat Dolls specifically. Like, come back. Obviously, nostalgia acts do very well right now. Like, look at Hillary Dove. Like, she's selling out arenas and playing, like, the older catalog. But she did the test of smaller venues first. She also released new music.

[Trisha Paytas]

Promoted new music.

[Oscar Craven]

She was, like, going hard on the press tour before announcing an arena tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Came out nowhere. You're just like, huh?

[Oscar Craven]

Like, I didn't know that was happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

So it's very odd. And I think people just gotta, like, manage expectations a little bit. Like, why are you immediately going to arenas? You know, like, what is the harm in, like, a theater tour? Like, love it. Trisha Paytas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, no, there's no nothing wrong with it. Although I do want to play Mass Square Garden, so. And I guess it could also lower ticket prices. Maybe. Like, maybe they didn't want to lower ticket prices.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, maybe that's the thing too, is the prices have been so crazy that, like, I feel like a couple years ago people were able to casually go to concerts more, whereas now the fees and even just the upfront prices are so high that people have to be like, choosier with, like, who they actually see in person in. And that is something that really needs to be figured out by the government. I don't know. Like, because it's like Ticketmaster kind of has, like the monopoly and they can just price it, whatever, and no one can do anything about it, you know? So it's like, I thought you do

[Trisha Paytas]

have a say on Ticketmaster. You don't.

[Oscar Craven]

The artists can, like, weigh in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

But then they still have, like, the fees and stuff where they just. Oh, I like 150. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Arenas are hard, I think. Unless I think just. No. And she did just go on tour last year, I do think. I mean, even me, like, with Trishmores, it's like, yeah, some people, like, I want to go back to Toronto. You've been to Toronto too many times. I'm like, but they left me there. And they're like, how about Edmonton? I was like, ah, I don't know. Calgary. I was like, well, let's go back to Toronto. You know, like, it's like, I think that. Yeah, I think in general, it's just a thing. But touring. Touring is fun. That sucks. Well, people, like I said, I think just want to be. Be. Just want to be mad.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are so mean too, because, like, oh, yeah, she flopped. We can just call it out more and be like, you flop? Well, damn, she's not gonna say that.

[Oscar Craven]

That is awesome. Like, I wonder if she just flat out said, they ain't selling, so I have to cancel it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Craven]

Like, would that have gone over better?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I don't know either, I guess. Yeah, I don't know because what can

[Oscar Craven]

you really say at that point? It almost is kind of all Rosalie back to Deborah Vance, but it is kind of the Deborah Vance thing where the whole, like, arc and hacks was like, another what? Autograph signer. Another, like, star. The thing was like, just tell them what's really going on because they're your fans and they'll relate to you more if you're just honest. And you just say, I need your guys's help right now. Like, if you just up front, like, maybe things would have turned around. But like, wow. Like, you know what? I do want to see Meghan Trainer live and I want to support her when she needs us. You know, I think just be honest.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so too. I don't know, people. I don't know. She really say anything though? She didn't really.

[Oscar Craven]

She just released that one statement and kept it moving. And Chris Olsen is doing all the talking for her, which. That's a good friend, at least.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good friend. Don't know if I'd want that. You know what I mean? Because it just looks like if you're just my talking head and like, well, Trisha's on Tick Tock. Why don't you talk about it? You know what I mean? Like, love it. One Tick Tock's good. Five is kind of crazy. Then you look a little bit like you're mean. I mean, people are being mean. Look, I, I get it. But.

[Oscar Craven]

And then the gag is too that the day before she sold her house, like her mansion. So people are really going with the narrative of, oh, she broke. But I don't think she broke because again, the songwriter money is pretty good even in the streaming age. She's written a lot of like hits.

[Trisha Paytas]

She also, that house, I think it's sold. It's been up for sale for like a year.

[Oscar Craven]

And she 21 months.

[Trisha Paytas]

From what I've heard. I'm not like her friend. I did not hear that from her. But I just. From what I've heard from reliable sources, she has like a house worth double that now. So I think it's fine. I think she's not like sizing down, but no, yeah, she definitely going up and I think it just sold that day. And people, people also like, who cares if someone's broke and they sell a six million dollar house? Guess what? They're not broke anymore. They got some money back. Like, it's just like people are just so mean. It's. That's bad. That's also. It's like the James Charles effect too where it's saying call 91 1. It's like that same energy where you call someone bro, just going to make you broke. You know what I mean? Just, just. It's fine. We all, we all go broke at some point. You've been broke, I've been broke, we've all been broke.

[Oscar Craven]

And people are also clowning on that. It was originally listed for 12 million, but it sold for a measly 6.3 million. Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's a crazy loss.

[Oscar Craven]

It's a crazy lot. I mean, she bought it for 6.9 and then she did a lot of. Sorry. She bought it for 6.5 in 2020, and then she. She renovated a lot and she built a gym, walk in closet and a recording studio into it. So she did put a lot of money into it. So she did technically take a loss, but, like, I think she's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

She also built like Bora Bora back there. Did you see the backyard?

[Oscar Craven]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my. I remember when I walked in because I did the podcast at that house and I remember I walked in. Obviously it's like sold now, so it doesn't matter. But, like, that backyard literally looked like Bora Bora. There's like, what? There's like a lazy river, water slide. There's like a mountain. It's like. I think you could see it in some of the photos. It was so crazy. Yeah. I never show this. I'm like, like, this is insane. Look like a water park in her backyard. She's. Yeah. Oh. I think she said she couldn't go to Bora Bora on vacation for a couple years because of how much it costs or something like that. Like, that probably, in my estimation, probably would be like 2 to 3 million dollars that she put in the back.

[Oscar Craven]

That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I guess you put in a lot, but maybe not everyone wants that. I loved it. I would want it. But maybe people are like, this looks like a. This looks like a circus, you know, which is great. But then, yeah, the recording studio, it was a cute house, kind of on a Main street, though. It was kind of like crowded. So Lizzo, too, she just sold her house and it was like a 4 million dollar. I guess maybe just like the market was high at one point. Now it's not.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, right now, me and my real estate tea. But it is a buyer's market right now. It is funny because I still, like, I think I'm just nosy because I don't obviously need the real estate app notifications, but I still like to track and see, like, houses that I was looking at one point. Like, how are they doing now? You know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

And some of them are still up there. And I see those price cuts keep happening and I'm like, like, oh, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, it's the buyer's market right now. Not interesting. Yeah, people are crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's like the Lizzo one too. She lost 4 million, but she still sold it for, like, $11 million. I'm like, I think they're.

[Oscar Craven]

Everyone's still doing fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're doing fine. People just love to be mean, I guess. Leave me and train her alone. I mean, really, like you said, she's really kind of harmless. It's not like James Charles. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, crazy. Yeah. The guys and what people get away with. Yeah. There's some. There's just people online that are, like, awful, awful people, and they just don't get the same hate, you know?

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Even, like, clavicular. I feel like people are nicer to him than Megan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, he's so sweet.

[Moses]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

He, like, yelled at a girl for littering. Like he didn't just, like, find any little thingy. And I'm just like, okay. But he said, like, some awful things I'm sure he could sell at an arena. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Craven]

So scary. Scary, because you're right. I think that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar Craven]

If he was on Madison Square Garden, it would sell out so fast.

[Trisha Paytas]

So crazy. That's, like, so wild. I know. It's bizarre. I really want to go to Mad Square now. I feel like I could do it for $20 a ticket. I think so. I think the ticket prices get people. And I'm sure Megan's was probably, like, high. I'm assuming, like, at least 100. Over 100. Not cheap. Make him miss you come back with a all star tour in, like, 10 years. I think that's the best way to go.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Okay. Tickets went up to about 200, so. Yeah. Oh, averaging around 120.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. That's expensive.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Oh, and then some ended up getting listed as low as $13 probably. They. I guess maybe the. The price cuts weren't still.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so she tried a price cut. Okay, well, she tried.

[Oscar Craven]

She tried.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wouldn't just chill. She still all bought that base. 40 billion streams.

[Oscar Craven]

Other house drama. I forgot to get to Coachella, so instead I'll tie it into houses. Is Tana's Coachella house situation her story time of someone just going into her house that she went to?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Craven]

Which is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Two girls I know I was gonna get. Well, I knew when it happened, she was like, oh, yeah, like, two people got into my house. I thought it was here. I didn't know it was on a Coachella. Like, I didn't know the whole thing. Obviously, you guys go to Tana's. She's so funny. She just did a whole podcast about this because I haven't seen her. I'll see you tomorrow. I haven't seen her. Or like, what podcast did you do? Save it for hours. Like, what girl?

[Oscar Craven]

I'm sure yours will come out before whatever one she went and did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because, yeah, she does.

[Oscar Craven]

It's been a few months of her doing her own podcast and I'm still waiting, like, so don't even sweat it.

[Trisha Paytas]

So real. So I know she. I just did an hour long podcast about that. That's why I'm like, so curious. You should talk about tomorrow because now I wouldn't know the tea too. But I'm like, you did the story time. You did the podcast. You did another podcast. She's in New York. She's all over the place. Yeah, it's. I mean, that is a wild story, basically. Yeah. Like, two girls, like, broke into her house. It's so funny because I've had something like, something like this happen too. And like, I guess they didn't break in. I guess they had the code. And she's like, that's from. She rented the house on Verbo. And Verbo used to come called Helios. And she thinks, like, it's either a Helios employee or like, whatever, because they got in with the code. Then they were saying it's like the owner's daughter, but the owner doesn't have daughters. It's like this whole thing. But they like left like photo strips of themselves with their IG handles on it. So they like broke in or at least got it and just like left that there. Like, it was so weird.

[Oscar Craven]

I saw the other tick tocks too from Weekend one of Coachella, where people clearly on something were like, I walked up to Tana Mongeau and I tried to go out and party with her, but she's like, oh, I'm sober now. I'm not partying. And I was like, really upset because I wanted to party with her and I love her. Like, she's my favorite person in the world. I think people expect her to still be like, like, like 18 year old Tanner who's down for whatever. And like, maybe 18 old town would be like, that's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, like, right, like, come party. Yeah, she's like. And paranoid. Like she said. She's like, I have. Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, so that's obviously gonna fly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Took it seriously because they were two girls. So she's like, no one's taking this seriously. No one cares.

[Oscar Craven]

Like, so crazy. And it again, at first I was like, how is this even possible? What like, they left photo strips and she really had receipts to prove her story. I was. It does sound so, like, unbelievable. But she really gagged it with the receipt. So I was gobsmacked. But also so real when she's like, she called the police and they technically were like, well, they didn't break in, right, because they had the code. And I didn't know about this, like, either, but my realtors were telling me they had a listing in LA that was coming of big news, like last year, where it was being squatted in by an of model. And like, all these of models were squatting in one of their listings for, like, weeks and shooting content and stuff in there. And then one time, one night, they went back to their listing to, like, prepare it for a showing. And all of a sudden there was like, all these people inside and they're like, what the. How are there all these people? They called the cops. It was like, big news. Like, helicopters came and everything, but they couldn't press charges or whatever because. Because technically they. There was no, like, private property don't trespass signs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

Isn't it crazy? And also if one of the people squatting in there, like, slipped and fell or whatever, technically they could sue them, like, their house. So it's. The law is so weird about. Like, you would think if you're going into property that you're not renting or you don't own, whatever, it'd be a crime, but. But it's very weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Water rules are. Laws are crazy out here. Like, literally someone can just like, start living in your house and be like, I live in this house now. You can't kick me out. Like, it's.

[Oscar Craven]

It's so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

So weird. I. That actually freaks me out. Especially in California. Like, those kind of things are so weird. Or people started getting like, mailed to your house or something. It's like, so odd. Weird behavior. Yeah, don't do that. Weird. Yeah, that happened. Not quite like that, but that's why I never use Sephora. Every time they're like, oh, sign up for points. I used to sign up for points. And like back in the day in like 2013, 2014, I used to have so many points. I to. Used to have, like, literally like 500,000 points. Like, so many. Because I was like, just saving them. And I like, wow, I have so many points. And then one time I went to four and they were all gone. And it was literally like someone that worked at Sephora. I like, took all my points and like, whatever, and I was Just, like, support us. Every time they asked me, like, oh, do you want to start a beauty insider? Absolutely not. Like, you guys stole my information. You called me, you used all my points. Because I kept getting this number, and it was like, the same person that stole all the points. And I was like, yeah, it was just shady. And I was just like, no, never again. So y' all are weird. If you, like, look up someone's, like, private information and, like, go in there, there. Yeah. I don't know what the other people think, but it's not. It's not cute. Yeah, it's not cute because.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, I guess that's really the only theory that makes sense in Tana's case is that someone was able to access the back end and get the information, the code. Yeah, yeah, because it, like, I remember when I worked at, like, urban outfitters. God, 2014. Maybe 2015. Yeah, 2014. But, yeah, like, it is crazy how much information is saved in those systems. And, like, you just look up a celebrity's name and, like, you see all the information, see the orders and everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Absolutely not. That's so weird. Yeah, that's like the airlines, too. They'll be like, oh, yeah, I saw you in the call log yesterday, and I didn't know if it was actually going to be you. I was like, that's so weird. What does that mean? Just get all the names of the people that are gonna be on your flight. I mean, I guess you need it, but a little weird. I use a code name now. Ever since tour last year, I've been using, like, code names for everything. So that's why I know, like, even if there's a good delivery and it's like, delivery for. Just pay us, like, no, no, not a real delivery, because that's not what I use. It's kind of what you need to do. Yeah, everybody should do that because everyone's just. Even regular people are getting hacked, attacked.

[Oscar Craven]

I know, like, a lot of. Yeah, you're right. Especially on tours. Like, celebrities will use, like, pseudonyms for hotels and stuff, whatever. But then I think for Harry Styles, they found out what pseudonym he was using. So that was the whole thing. Oh, yes, I forgot about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I forgot Harry Styles was using D vans and Jean Smart just talked about it in an interview, and I guess he, like, sent her flowers. Like, Harry Styles and Jean Smart, like, flowers. He, like, gave him. Gave her tickets to his show. I. I was like, the concept of Harry Styles watching hacks and then using Deborah Vance as his login, that it all goes Back to her Vance. But, yeah, you really need to. Because also, hotels, I get. They're trying to be nice, but, like, yeah, sometimes, like, I'll be staying at a hotel, and, like, glam will come up with. You'll need, like, an elevator to come, or you'll need a key to come up, but they're like, oh, they just let us up. I was like, okay, let's not. Why are we doing that? Like, then just let people up. Like, it's so crazy. But, yeah, now you always have to do the secret name. Oh, you see the Sprouse twins, He got here. He. He.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

An intruder at gunpoint.

[Oscar Craven]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

The one that's married to the model.

[Oscar Craven]

Yes. He's married to Barbara. Barbara Palvin, the victim model. Yep.

[Trisha Paytas]

How'd he get her?

[Oscar Craven]

She's like. She is, like. She's gorgeous. He's also really handsome, too. But I will say they're, like, both really nerdy. Like, they, like. And it's not like a try to be quirky thing. It's like, they literally just. They like to make their own cosplays for anime. They watch anime together. They play video. Video games together. Like, they're very just, like, chill, low key. I think that's why everyone was already, like, really turned on when Dylan Sprouse, like, apprehended an intruder in his house because Barbara Palvin saw a stranger, like, in their yard, told Dylan, like, Dylan had her go, like, hide, call 91 1. And he tackled the trespasser.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

And held them at gunpoint until 911 came. And everyone is wet for Dylan Sprouse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, absolutely. That's crazy, because also, he's like. He's also a celebrity, so he could just be like, what do we do? Let's hide together. The fact. Yeah, the fact that he's just like, I'm gonna defend our house. And, like, the person didn't even make it inside. He didn't. Whatever. He's just, like, absolutely not in the holes in there until the cops come. I mean, brave fierceness. It is. It is hot. How old is he? He seems young. I probably shouldn't be. My age. Is he. God, I think of them as, like, 12. Are they your age?

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Yeah. It's like that era. Selena, Miley, the Sprouse twins, Demi. We're all 92.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. So they're 33. Is that the right math? I don't know.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh. Or probably 34 now, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. They were so little. How do people grow up like that? That's just crazy. Like, they're little kids and then they grow up. Like, that's so cool.

[Oscar Craven]

I mean, the concept of aging. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying, though. Aging is a crazy concept. I saw an interview with Cher, and they're like, how does it feel to get old? And she's like, it sucks. I was like, that's kind of real, actually. I don't think anybody wants to get old other. I mean, like, you don't want to, like, die either, but, like, I wish we could just say the age we like to be because it is crazy. Those little twins are, like, man, crazy. It's a. It is a crazy concept. So, so wild to me.

[Oscar Craven]

Well, kudos to Dylan. He doesn't play about his wife. It's so real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Defend. Defend your home.

[Oscar Craven]

I love them together, too. I think I've just edited so many videos of them that I, like, know their whole lives lore. And I just. I think they're very sweet. How.

[Trisha Paytas]

When do they get married?

[Oscar Craven]

They're.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess they're not that young anymore.

[Oscar Craven]

They've been together a while, but they got married last year, I believe, like, kind of on the low. She. I think they got, like, documents of when she changed her name legally to Barbara Sprouse. That's her. She still goes by Calvin, like, professionally, but legally it's. Yeah, Sprouse.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. Who just changed her name? And I was like, oh, that's crazy. Oh, Remy Remy. Ms. Remy Ashton is awesome. Remy Cruz is now Remy Parsons. I'm like, damn, she's changed her name lot. It's hard to keep up because at Coachella she has a Miss Remy Cruz bowl. But then it's like they cross down, put Ms. Remy Parsons. But, like, you should have kept the cruise for the pole. The bowl. Because, I mean, we love that you took that name, but also we don't know you as that. Cuz every time I see Mr. Parsons, I'm like, what? Who is this?

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, T. And especially, like, sometimes she goes the full Remy Cruz, Ashton Parsons. Like, she uses all the. All of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes she had two last names. Cruz Ashley Fashion.

[Oscar Craven]

I think so, yeah. Like on her. Her. Someone had to look her up. I think someone at my work, like, reached out for. To find her, like, on, like, her. Her team information. So you have to put in their name, and then it shows up in this, like, website of, like, who represents them or whatever. And they had, like, the fool and they asked me, like, why does she have five last names? And I Had a lot. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's gonna be our kids, Paytas Hackman, whoever they marry. It's gonna be three last names. It is gonna be. It's a lot. Yeah. I, I, the paperwork alone is just crazy. I like, I think I changed my name on Instagram to Paytas Hackman. But to change it like fully as a lot. And also like people say, oh, marriage is just a certificate or piece of paper. It's also like, yeah, so why do we have to change our name just because we're married?

[Oscar Craven]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the concept? What do you think is the origins of that?

[Oscar Craven]

Ooh, good question. Is it for me looking the most. Is it like a property thing? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it a what?

[Oscar Craven]

Like a property kind of thing. Like if you have the same name for owning property or owning things. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess hotels. When you, when you go.

[Moses]

I mean, it's like religious and administrative.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, administrative. Maybe for the plot when you die, then you can have the same name on the plot.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a lot. It's a lot to change your name.

[Oscar Craven]

Also, I just realized, you can tell I was with Harry Daniels this morning because every sentence is gag and tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I no say, I think that's the other reason I had it. I went into a meditative mode. Love him. But I honestly, my brain was like overloaded, over stimulated, trying to keep up with everything. And I was like, I don't know what's happening. So then I just zoned out. It's like afterwards, like it was cleared my head after.

[Oscar Craven]

That's smart. Cuz I'm realizing as I speak, every sentence is gag tea, gag T. Yes, he was. And that is. And when he's, when he was here, everything was well, yes. And that's when my. Well, yes. Became my voice. I get vocal stems like, like so easy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Vocal stems are my new favorite thing. I love when people like, here's my vocal stem of the week. I like it. What does that mean? That' just like you can't stop saying something.

[Oscar Craven]

I do love a vocal.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's your vocal stem this week?

[Oscar Craven]

I guess it's Gaby Daniels right now with like, yeah, with a little, A little gag. A gag or two.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need a vocal stem.

[Oscar Craven]

Usually my vocal stems do come from my mother, Jen McAllister.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's your actual mother?

[Oscar Craven]

No, no, my spiritual mother, Jen McAllister. Usually I get my vocal stems from her. Or drag race. Like a lot of drag. Gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we say mama.

[Oscar Craven]

That comes from Jen McAllister, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, does she? Oh, it sounds drag to me.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm sure for her it originated from something gay. But the way she spells it out is Mama like a W. M a

[Trisha Paytas]

W. Yeah, you said it this morning.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Made me laugh.

[Oscar Craven]

So that's where origins are. Gemma. Cow. Nothing I say. I just. I'll put a blanket disclaimer. I never say or type anything original. It all comes from someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

But nobody does.

[Oscar Craven]

No one does. We're all influenced by something.

[Trisha Paytas]

But don't be influenced too much. My tick tock of the weekend, I was like, annoyed and I almost was going to do a tick tock rant about it. You know M.J. gray?

[Oscar Craven]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know Wizard Liz?

[Oscar Craven]

No. Was she the one that got cheated on?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was the one that, like, made her, like, living or her platform, basically telling girls, like, know your worth and men ain't anyways, and then obviously that whole thing happened and her man made her look like a clown. Well, M.J. gray is another. Is grifter a bad word? Because everyone calls her a grifter.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, that means you're just like, not following your actual beliefs or morals, just going to make whatever the money is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Basically, she's the grifter then, because she is very pretty. They're all pretty girls. They're all pretty girls. But their whole thing is like, I actually had no idea who this was prior to this weekend. But then my whole TikTok was this and I was like, I fell down the rabbit hole of it. And the whole, you know, she's really pretty. The whole thing. Thing is like, anyone who gets married is stupid. Marriage is a scam. I've loved men. I will never trust a man. And if you do, you're dumb. And don't tell me there's good guys. Don't tell me. Oh, for the money. Whatever. They're like, no, they're lying to you. You're used as collateral. There's no such thing. Whatever. She. Marriage is a scam. Motherhood is a scam. Like, I never would want that. You guys are stupid. Like, that's her whole thing. Literally gets engaged this weekend after nine months of dating. And she's like. And then she said one time too, she's like, I have to know someone for at least three years to even, like, love them. Whatever. She gets engaged over Paris now she's become like a lavish influencer. Now she's like, chose like her Chanel and all stuff. Like, basically. Basically, she's like a sugar baby. Because when her explanation video was like, guys, just know that I'm in a really good situation. So that's why. But she goes, I still don't believe in the institute of marriage, even though I'm partaking in it. I was like, girl, give it. Everyone was pissed. So anyway, she's like, yeah. So then someone's like, well, hey, we, like, listen to you. Whatever. She goes, well, kind of like, manage your expectations. She like, well, don't look to me to make your decisions. Like, make your own decisions. And I got so mad at these. And good thing is today and yesterday, because I was like, you know, just a bit. Because I was just like, don't tell women, oh, don't. Don't look to me for your life decisions when your whole thing is telling them, like, oh, no, I know everything. Like, I know men and I know them, and you can never trust them. And then you're getting married, and don't say, like, oh, I'm in a good situation, guys, trust me. This is a good situation. It's like, that's also what Wizard Liz said. And look at him just, like, making her fool out of her. So it's just like, it's fine. Like, everyone was saying, it's fine if you change your opinion on marriage and you meet the right one, right? But, like, to make your whole brand that. And then to get pissed at the people who, like, followed you and be like, well, that's your fault. Like, I never told you not to. Because people, you know, people like, look, especially because they're really pretty girls, like Roslers, who. They're pretty. They're, you know, their standard is high and stuff. And then they get into this situation, then they yell at their followers. They're like, what you guys expect? Like, I got a good one. And then the guy, we're trying to be private, but meanwhile, like, has him, like, he's. He's like in the background. You hear his voice for everything. He's like, you never wanted to be a girlfriend, now you're a wife. Like, yeah. And he's sounds like he's 25. Like, it just sounds so gross. Her whole thing is, like, just now being like a sugar baby is basically what she's, like, implying and stuff like that. And you're just like, let's stop listening to these influencers. I feel like just in general, TikTok influencers have become annoying as hell. And it's like these. It's like millennials. Honestly, everyone's annoying. Who isn't? Name one person who's not annoying.

[Oscar Craven]

I guess Jen McAllister.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Love Jen. Who do I find not annoying? Nobody. I find everybody annoying these days. I'm in my positive. I am in a positive, clear headed

[Oscar Craven]

positive, no negative thought.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, now it is. Now that I got back to this, I was like this because seriously, it is like, how are you gonna just have all these women this and then like they follow you and then they're like a little upset. It's like a little different. And then someone's like trying to compare to body positivity. How early like body positive. People are being skinny now and it's like, it's like a little different, right? It's like a little different because obviously they're like who they want to be. They're so sure who they are are which body positivity people. Including me, I feel like I've always been kind of upfront. Whereas like, if I could be £100, I could. But like clearly, like mentally I'm not there yet. So it's just like that's a little bit different. And you're living in the body that you have to live in. This is like you're choosing to like spew this propaganda. But then meanwhile you're like engaged now because you have like a big rock and you're like in Paris and stuff like that anyways. Unfollow all these people. I was so. I was annoyed. I honestly just feel like maybe the rage made of it all too. Maybe people are just trying to like piss people off or something. I don't know. I was just like, she. I don't know where was her? Liz is. She had the baby with the guy that made her look like a clown and just like, yeah, married so quickly. That's the other thing they always say. Don't wait two to three years before you even like give a guy like sex or something like that. It's like you're getting married in nine months, which is like fine. Or engaged, I guess. Yes, some people said that too. Like, she's just engaged, guys. She's not married. But. But to also be like in the same breath of your proposal. She's like so giddy, swappy. Because I still don't believe in this true to me marriage. So just because I'm not protecting it doesn't mean I believe in it. It's like, yeah, like, are you stupid? Yes, that's the answer. I know.

[Oscar Craven]

It gives me the same feeling of like when you told me about the Mormon wives for the first time where I'm like so upset and I have no idea who anyone is.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's how it was. I was like. Because I was just seeing all the old clips of her and it was pissing me off because it was just so high and mighty. That's like, oh, my God, y' all are stupid. The marriage only benefits the man. And in that case, I would agree with you. If you're in a marriage that only benefits the man, if you, if you're like serving him, doing, yeah, no, don't do that. But damn. Find someone who elevates your life. Find someone who just. Moses, really, he just does ev. You know, just. He takes care of so much. So I was watching another influencer named Abby. Abby and Josh, you know them. She's really tall, he's short. That's the only way I can describe him because that's how, that's how they describe themselves. She's always like, so tall and he's so short. And she was saying all the stuff that he does that he like cooks every meal and does all the dishes and then people like, well, what do you do? And then she's like, well, I help him, like, manage his anxiety. He has. It's so funny. I learned so much about him the last week straight to who cares about your poops? Ollie does. That's why Ollie's science backed Gut health lineup helps support your family's regularity, from daily probiotics to fiber gummies your kiddos will love. Find it all on ollie.com that's o l l y.com these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. With Plan B emergency contraception, we're in control of our future. It's backup birth control. You take after unprotected sex that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts. It works by temporarily delaying ovulation and it won't impact your future fertility. Plan B is available in all 50 US states at all major retailers near you with no ID, prescription or age requirement needed. Together we, we've got this. Follow Plan B on insta at Plan B. One step to learn more uses directed. It's like he has a fear of elevators. So she'll like call ahead of time and be like, how do we take the stairs? Like they haven't taken elevator in, like, since they've been together in 10 years. Or like he has a anxiety about flying. So she drives 18 hours down to Disney World. Like she does. Like, yeah, I help him with all of this stuff or whatever. It's like people really are just. They're mad if the guy does everything. They're mad. They, they always say that with us too. They're like, what is Trisha to do? Like, I doesn't matter. None of your business what I do. I also can just exist. Maybe I just. Just got lucky God's chosen one that I have Moses just here for me all the time. Just. You don't know. Maybe I do something, maybe I don't. Who cares? Moses doesn't care. I just chilling through life sometimes. Do you ever care that I lay in bed a lot?

[Moses]

No. Do you remember that one we saw where it says that when your wife is laying in bed or on the sofa, it's when she attracts. Attracts all the wealth and the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I said that to you. I said it among us all the time. It's like, don't call your wife lazy for. Not that he does, but it's like never think your life is lazy. When she's laying on the bed or a sofa. She's attracting the abundance, the wealth, the good energy. She's attracting everything you need in life.

[Oscar Craven]

Leave you on your. Your fin style.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, now I see so many of these. So now they all are coming to me and I'm like, I like monks are saying, saying it and I was like, yes, why? It was like a monk or something that was saying. And he's like, I advise into three. And it was just like, yeah, it's like a monk. And he's just like, no, that woman, if she's laying still, she's like, she's needing that energy that recharge for your life. And I was like, that's what I'm doing. I'm recharging.

[Oscar Craven]

Was it a real monk or AI?

[Trisha Paytas]

It might be AI now that I think about it, because I do fall for them. But I loved it. And I felt real and I felt seen and I feel, I feel that's true. I really do feel like I've come into my, into our energy, our whole family energy has just really uplifted since I've really been pregnant, which means I was resting a lot. So I still take that same mentality and just love to take.

[Moses]

But when I like, for example, when I look at the kids, to me it looks like this, you know, miracle of nature or this like impossible thing that you've done. Like I always, I always see that. And it. The last three years it was just been like back to. Back then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that what you do so much for me?

[Moses]

But I always say I. I would do it even if we had no kids. But all I'm saying is, like, you do. That's what I'm saying. Like, you did so much even in. In that. And they're all healthy and great and happy. So it's like, thank you. You know, that's. That's huge. That's not a small thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get a lot of good karma points for that. Then how much. How much longer does it last, do you think? Because you really have. I feel like since I've been pregnant, you've done way more. You've always done a lot for me. But it's like once we got married, you did more once I got pregnant.

[Moses]

But it's not. It's more because there's more to do. You know what I mean? Like, I do. Like, you raised the occasion. It's not like I wouldn't do as much if it wasn't pregnancy. It was a lot to do. I would still do a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I do nothing.

[Moses]

That's not true.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do I do?

[Moses]

You work all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

First of all, I do love it Monday through Wednesday. That's my hustle. I was thinking about that today, too.

[Moses]

She always says that, but that's not true.

[Oscar Craven]

She works.

[Moses]

Even I know that she works on the weekend. Weekends she works and. And working. Some work trips. And you work 24 7.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was editing our Patreon vlog. I felt very work mode. I was like, wow, look at me. I even said it to you. All the comments like, love this, but I know Jimmy scary music would have been so good in this. I was like, okay, trying to give you guys the vlog. And yeah, we did our. Not Loveline. We really are the Patreon beat this past week. All right, I do do a lot, but I don't need a break. Break for Moses, because he does the most. My dad always does that, too. I think my dad thinks I do nothing. He always, like, ingest would be like, oh, are you calling the plumbers? Are you doing. I'm like, dad, I actually do a lot. Like, I think he thinks I do absolutely nothing, that Moses does everything for me. But I do a lot. I do do organizings. I call. I make the.

[Moses]

But also, like, like, you know, it's the. I don't know, like, the soul of the family lies with her. Because it's like when we do photo shoots for the family for holidays, when you go on holiday trips, when you do things, like, you're the one that plans that and traditions and holiday. Everything that has a meaning. So you do all that birthdays, and

[Trisha Paytas]

I think me and Elvis are gonna have a joint. I mean, it's gonna be Elvis's birthday, but because my birthday also got canceled the week of May 8th.

[Moses]

5th.

[Trisha Paytas]

May 5th through the 10th. My dad's birthday. Father's or my dad's birthday is on Mother's Day, and it's also on my euphoria day, and it's also a day that I can't. I can't. I have to. I'm gone. I'm like, damn, that week really just got away from us. So Cinco de Mayo. I'm missing Netflix. Ocho de Cinco, which is my birthday. And then Nueve de Cinco, which was Indio.

[Oscar Craven]

And then may the fourth be with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

May the fourth. I'm missing that day, too. I'll be here for May 1st. I'll be here for Mayday. We'll bring May basket to each other. I'll be here for that. Damn. Yeah. I mean, I'm missing all Mother's Day, my dad's birthday. Damn. Well, I do thank you for that. Yeah. Anyways. But I will. I'm missing. I'm technically missing Elvis's birthday because I'll be in England, but I'm gonna plan a birthday for her. Does anyone care out there? Oh, my God, we have so much time to go. Why did I think we were ending? Have we talked too much? This is the problem with doing a podcast in the morning is, like, talked out.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Tea. And we still got much more to go. Well, I mean, maybe this will get you talking. Zayn Malik potentially bisect sexual.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. Lesbian awareness week. What did he say?

[Oscar Craven]

Okay, well, he has a new song out called Take Turns, and in the song, he kind of describes sexual relations with both men and women. And he did an interview with Zach Sang, which I did not know Zayn and Zach sang go, like, really far back, but they did, like, I guess anytime Zayn releases something, he's going to Zach saying they did, like, a weird. It almost looked like a couple's photo shoot the way because they were, like, all dressed up on a hotel balcony in black and white.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they are. Are they both bisexual kings, I think, right?

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

But anyway, love that he. Zayn has never confirmed his sexuality. Even after the song Zach sang brings up the song taking turns with Zayn. It's kind of giving another Benson Boone moment. Like, who are you talking about? I love that because you know how Zoxan gets. He gets very, like, into the artistry of it. All. And meanwhile, some things are just like the song is about being horny, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

So is that what it's about?

[Oscar Craven]

Zach brought it up. He's like, it's a very sexy song. And Zayn laughs like, yeah, what do you think it's about? And of course Zach saying, is it about like a toxic relationship? Like. And Zayn starts laughing. He's like, no, it's, it's not about that. He goes, oh, that's what I took away from it. And it's like, okay, so we had Zayn literally teed you up to ask him about something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Like what it's about. Have you listened to it?

[Oscar Craven]

I looked at the lyrics and the lyrics is it talks about doing stuff to men and doing stuff to women.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so literally by. Yeah, You're by.

[Oscar Craven]

So that was. And Zayn was literally giggling like so ready to spill the bisexual tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Zach was just like moving on.

[Oscar Craven]

But yeah, like, I think Alex Cooper at least would have given. Say what you want about the girl. I think she would have asked about.

[Trisha Paytas]

No big deal.

[Oscar Craven]

You think I'm call her daddy? She's asked. She asked Gwyneth Paltrow who's better in bed, Brad or whoever else. Like, I think she would ask.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hates a follow up question though.

[Oscar Craven]

That's true. But I think she would. I think the gay would have had big bold letters on the card.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Oscar Craven]

Ask him about time and place. You know what I mean? Like every one bring him on here fan. Like had the fans. Girls especially. For some reason girls love like a bisexual boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

But just I.

[Oscar Craven]

Everyone thought like some, you know, people thought maybe Harry bisexual, maybe Louie bisexual. Probably. Probably all of them at this point. I kind of think Harry is performatively queer. Like where he kind of like plays into it a little bit, but isn't

[Trisha Paytas]

really birthday dinner really.

[Oscar Craven]

I think now, now I'm looking at Zayn like, oh, you were the one who was really about it. And Harry's about it just to be giggly and fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I feel like Harry, I feel like he's about it.

[Oscar Craven]

I thought so, but he never put his money where his mouth was. Literally.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. So now I think it's all up to Zane to really carry the bisexual flag.

[Trisha Paytas]

And who is. Who's worried about it? Someone in the group was worried about it. I saw somewhere Lewis, someone who. Someone that like, maybe he's like worried he's gonna out him too.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, well, maybe you're thinking of Louis and Zayn got into a fight when they were filming A Netflix documentary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, maybe that was it.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. So this story kind of came out. People thought it was maybe trying to deflect from the other big headline, which was the story about why their documentary got canceled for Netflix. It was a three part project that was supposed to follow the pair as they reconnect post One Direction on a road trip around America. But the sun reported that the show was scrapped after allegedly Zayn and Louis got into a fight where Zayn allegedly punched Louis in the face.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Oscar Craven]

I know. And no, no reporting knows. No reporter knows exactly what the fight was about. But the sun is claiming that Zayn made a remark about Louie's mother who died in 2016 after battling leukemia. And then they got really heated, Louis got really upset and Zane ended up punching him in the face. Allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what do you mean allegedly? There was no one that saw it.

[Oscar Craven]

Well, there's no proof of the actual physical altercation, but not everyone's Dakota.

[Trisha Paytas]

They don't have that phone out ready to go. You know what I mean? But still, it probably.

[Oscar Craven]

Maybe it happened and it did get scrapped. Like I remember when they announced it and then nothing came up after that. Like it was just the headline. They were announcing a project. Nothing came up after that. Louis and his sisters unfollowed Zayn on Instagram. Zayn still follows Louis and the director also made a comment comments about the documentary about the project getting scrapped. Once this headline came out, she posted it to her Instagram story sharing the Sun's cover and said, there goes the last year of work. Sad face. So the director kind of confirms that the Sun's reporting is kind of accurate.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think they could just still put something out, like put together what they had, like put it.

[Oscar Craven]

I guess it didn't get very far into filming because six months ago is when the altercation happened and they didn't. They announced the project like a little bit before that, like it was just last year. So I don't think they got much done, at least for the full project. And Netflix was just like, yeah, let's just cut it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is Zane doing press right now?

[Oscar Craven]

Zayn is. He just released and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, we should talk to Trisha.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh yeah, let's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's a mutual one we can agree upon.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know much about him, but I would like to know more about him if he's bi.

[Oscar Craven]

That's all I wanna know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I need to know. That's so interesting to me. I need to know more. People need to know. They're Doing? There's a bi erasure happening right now. And I think people need to know, am I bi? How do I know I'm bi? I think we need him on Yahtzee. I don't know. Zach sang not to. You know, I know they're friends, but we're like the same caliber, right?

[Oscar Craven]

I mean, I would think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're both theater tours. Me and Zach sang. Like, I feel like. Like, I think, come on.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's reach out. I know I've been. I saw Jack Black was on the Bad Friends podcast. I reached out to Trish. I'm like, can we get Jack Black on? Like, how do all these people got all these great guests?

[Oscar Craven]

It's always like a friend of a friend situation, though, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess they did have Zac Efron on their podcast.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know. Like, they don't like a good ones. We need more friends.

[Oscar Craven]

That's a problem for us.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I had Zach Z was my friend. I could have asked. We ruined it.

[Oscar Craven]

Damn. True. That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

So sorry. Zach saying my apologies.

[Oscar Craven]

And our Harry Daniels is kind of our only hope, but he's afraid to ask anyone for anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He's like, I'm scared to ask guests.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm like, yeah, my best friends are cat's eye, but I can't ask them. Like, okay. Your best friend Emma Roberts, who loves you, can't even like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You're actually cool with these people. I know. It's so hard. I like Zane. I think. I think he might be my favorite from One Direction. Minus the punch in anything.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. True.

[Trisha Paytas]

If it happened, but.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, yeah, allegedly. Who would my favorite be? I think Harry kind of lost me. Post this. Kiss. Kiss all the time Disco occasionally.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the name.

[Oscar Craven]

I think that's the name of the album.

[Trisha Paytas]

Horrible name.

[Oscar Craven]

I was seated for the Hairy Comeback, but it kind of came on really quick. I'm so sorry. I know people still ride for the album. It did kind of lose me. I apologize. So now maybe Niall.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, from the Voice. I like him.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's so good.

[Oscar Craven]

He just released a new album too, and he did a little, like, pop up event at a coffee shop. And it was really sweet. He was like, you know, doing the barista thing because his song's about, like, you know, getting coffee with somebody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Oscar Craven]

And then he had a fan event too, and this, I think it was on TikTok. It went viral because he invited, you know, specific fans. And one of the fans, she put her Business hat on. And she was networking, honey. She was not in the line to go talk chit chat with Niall. She went to his team and had her resume and she was like, this is why I think you should like. She pissed herself and I was like, work. And there's a TikTok of Niall like looking over his shoulder, seeing her like talk to his team. And he giggled. Fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, what did we know? Maybe it was like the Deborah Vance of it all where she goes to Ava and she's like not a fan, she's a hater. She's wanted her job.

[Oscar Craven]

I think she was upfront about being a Nile Stan. But wanting a job at the record label, it kind of gives me Maddie and euphoria. Going up to that age agent at, you know, at brunch or whatever, being like, my name is Maddie, you, you need to hire me. Picks up her phone like, hello, whatever that lady's name. Desk speaking. Like, it kind of is giving that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Oscar Craven]

It's giving Maddie teas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you gotta shoot your shot. Why not?

[Oscar Craven]

I respect the people that do. I could never be me because I'm too afraid.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I. I don't know. Yeah, I same. I don't think I could ever. Yeah, like just make care hire me. I don't know, maybe you have to put yourself out there. You could. I feel like you're a little. You could do that.

[Oscar Craven]

I could. I like doing it on the one off. Like doing saying something here and hoping someone hears it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Craven]

Versus, like actually going to the person who can, you know, be the path forward being like, hi, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you miss 100 of the shots you take.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is that? Who said that?

[Oscar Craven]

Probably those girls trying to get to Coachella by saying they don't have a ticket or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, who was that?

[Oscar Craven]

Every person on Coachella was like, oh, I got canceled. Oh, I don't have a ticket. Like, they all ended up going. So yes, they got the last laugh there.

[Trisha Paytas]

How's Branflix doing?

[Oscar Craven]

You know, I think everyone has moved on, at least from what I've seen. I feel like now people are hating on James Charles. I would assume this is not pop culture related, but it is girl boss related. There's an Uber Eats driver that went viral because when she would post the little delivery proof of delivery photos, she included her feet in them and she would get higher tips and I was like, that's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that real?

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, I think she had the proof. Like, I mean, she had the receipts of her of her dogs in the photo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. And so people just gave her more cuz she did the feet. Yeah. I wouldn't even notice. I don't even think. I know.

[Oscar Craven]

I never look at the photo.

[Trisha Paytas]

They always take a photo.

[Oscar Craven]

They do.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think they ever take a photo of ours, do they?

[Moses]

Yeah, usually there's a photo. Yeah, well, a lot of people. Sometimes we'll take it from them, but if they place it, they'll take a photo gag.

[Oscar Craven]

What are we, an hour 48? I'm so sorry. Almost made it. I know. Because Shane Dawson always does the speaking millennial grunge. He always does the little like, photo. He'll post it to his Instagram story when the Uber or Postmate like photographs his delivery. And he always does his like quirky little like, you know, oh, he's standing with his toes pointed in and he's like. With his.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, you were giving Shane.

[Oscar Craven]

It's like, like he always. And then he posted to a store. I'm like, just, we don't need to see it. You know what I mean? Like, we know. We know you. Yeah, we get it. We get it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he still eating?

[Oscar Craven]

He's still eating the same old things. And yeah, I'm like, okay, I guess

[Trisha Paytas]

he's skinny legend now, so he probably wants to draw. Skinny is next to the bag. I probably would do that too if I was lost a bunch of weight. Look how tiny I am next to this.

[Oscar Craven]

Anytime you get the note and then just point my like before they put

[Moses]

it on the ground.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never had anyone take my photo. That's so weird.

[Oscar Craven]

Darian. Yesterday he was like, don't check the photo on Postmates. And I was like, why? Then I went to go look. It was. He'd like full on pose. He's like, oh. I was like, why did you like, smile and everything? He's like, well, I wanted. I didn't want it to look like a mug shot.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny. I would because I'm like, I don't want them to put that picture. It's kind of like invasive that they take a picture of you. Like, where is that photo gonna end up?

[Oscar Craven]

True. And he's in his jammies and everything. And he's like smiling with his.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you don't leave it. Shane too. I'm surprised he grabs it. I'm like, leave that.

[Oscar Craven]

I always do that too. I'm like, just leave it at the doorstep. But they. Yesterday they called that they couldn't get in the building, so Darian ran to go to the front door, but he already came in. He was able to get in. So then they met in the hallway. Yeah. Yeah. It was really awkward. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. When I saw that big apartment, that plaza. Oh my God. That was like. To find a postmate in there was so hard. It was like impossible. Like I'm gonna meet you. But then we would like miss each other and then there'd be no reception and people we locke out of the staircases. It's a lot to find. Give them good tips, you guys. Cuz it's not an easy job.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. Especially if they're showing their feet and you're into that kind of thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's pretty smart, I guess.

[Oscar Craven]

It is smart.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

She said that she would get an extra like 20 to $50 tips for orders.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Oscar Craven]

And she said it would be like the tips that. That comes in after the drop off, you know, you can ask.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she knew from the picture.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. It was a direct chorus correlation, guys

[Trisha Paytas]

or whoever's doing that.

[Oscar Craven]

I got an email from someone asking. It was like they wrote it. Very serious. I haven't responded yet, but maybe I will because they were like, hi, Oscar, I am inquiring to know how much you would charge for a photo of your feet. And it was like so specific and gave me Instagram handle and everything. It's like, this is real. Like here's my Instagram blah, blah. I just really want to see your souls. And I was like, I didn't reply yet.

[Moses]

But not.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm like, what would the rate be? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

What are you thinking? I don't know.

[Oscar Craven]

I don't think I have great like. Like I have bad hands from lifting. Like I'm very callous hands and also very callous feet. So maybe I would like put invest a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe that's what they want to see.

[Oscar Craven]

True.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't get them too excited here you're describing your feet to him. Oh, I like that. How do you have cow's feet? Are you barefoot a lot?

[Oscar Craven]

I think just from a lot of cardio. That's the only thing I can think of. Yeah. Because I'm actually never barefoot. I hate being barefoot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's right. I love it.

[Oscar Craven]

I hate it. It's my least favorite thing in the world.

[Trisha Paytas]

You get pedicures? No, never see a really calcific. Because I'll get them off at the.

[Oscar Craven]

I'll do it myself. But not like the intensive thing, which I probably should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, just like once a year at least.

[Oscar Craven]

Just. Yeah. I don't know if the rate goes up or down with that though.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I guess email them back and try.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Inquire, see, like, how's this going?

[Oscar Craven]

Because we might be going that direct. Like, furniture is expensive. Let's say that. So it is. Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, our house is like, still not furnished. We're still working on Beetlejuice cabinets because like even like years ago, we like, couldn't afford it then. We could afford it and then still, like, takes. It's just. It's so expensive. Everything that construction's been going on for 500 years out there.

[Oscar Craven]

It really has been.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. So it's like Thanksgiving. And I'm like, okay. It's so expensive.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm like, that kills me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Feels like it's moving today. It feels like there's more people out there. So it feels like it's moving. But also I just have no idea what we're doing. I'm literally like, T's like your house always has an instruction that's so bougie. And I was like, I don't know if that's bougie. I think I don't know what's happening out there. Something.

[Moses]

Everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything. And I was like, I'm doing everything today. I'm just like, I'm getting some chicken and waffles. Did you eat? You ate the smoked salmon? Is that what you ate?

[Moses]

I have banana, some smoked salmon. Cuz I was rushing. I didn't have time.

[Trisha Paytas]

You didn't eat anything.

[Moses]

I ate those.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's nothing like a warm meal.

[Moses]

Not yet. There's no time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can make time. He always says that. But you make time to eat.

[Oscar Craven]

It's hard sometimes. Like, sometimes I feel like I don't. Like, I'll snack or do things in a rush and then not have time to like, really eat an actual meal until, like, dinner time.

[Trisha Paytas]

They always need to make time for that. People are so silly when they say, I forgot to eat right down. Time to eat. Well, you make 10 minutes to eat.

[Moses]

I did. Then I got a banana and smoked salmon. That's what the 10 minutes we give you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Craven]

I feel like I can't escape this episode without an Alex v. Alex update.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, are people succeeded for this?

[Oscar Craven]

I don't know. I'm standing up and walking away only because Alex Earl. You let me down, girl. Like, you had to do one shot to like, be messy, to be a little interesting, to shake the table a little bit. And you didn't take it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like, she's been starting this whole thing. Like, she's been really the one to be, like, liking comments. Yeah, yeah. It's like, well, now take it home. Okay. On it. Where?

[Oscar Craven]

Where? On what? Everyone else is doing the talking for you, and you can't. You're letting everyone else down. Everyone on Team Earl is also let down. And then the narrative switches of, like, she's just above the drama, you guys. Like, she doesn't need to stoop to Alex Kruger's level. She's so above it. No, she's not. Because she was reposting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

And if she could slam dunk, I think she would, but I don't think she has slam dunk.

[Trisha Paytas]

I also heard the theory saving it for the reality show.

[Oscar Craven]

Yes, I see that too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because she filmed horizontals. Everyone's like, oh, they probably use that for, like, the B roll of the.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are people gonna care once it comes out?

[Oscar Craven]

Like, I personally, I don't like. It's not interesting enough to last, like, a year. You know what I mean? Until this comes out. Because, again, I don't think there's any, like, bi sister level, like tea in there. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone did say this is by sister

[Oscar Craven]

for straightforward people and straight and white. I guess because it's also, like, unseasoned. It's very unseasoned. There's no flavor here. Like, it's all about, like, money and maybe a little bit of politics. Like, that's the most boring kind of beef to me. Money and politics is what everyone else is beefing over.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's nothing new to the table, actually. Very true. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

Because what everyone has come to, the. The deduction of is that there was a bad business deal. They are very different on the political spectrum. Trump and that in their early collaborations, specifically this drunk. Get ready with me. Alex Earl didn't like the way she came across. And, like, Alex Cooper was a little bit too raunchy for her, which again, goes back to, like, the different morals or whatever. So, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, that's the team.

[Oscar Craven]

Interesting to me, it's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I guess I had heard too be better just doing a whole hour dissertation interview 17 people about this. He's got the. The time. I always wonder what he does. Like, how does he survive? Like, how do you interview 17 people?

[Oscar Craven]

And.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess that's his job. Did he get sponsored in that day? I don't know. I think we like you better. I don't know. I know he was canceled. I think we like him. I think he's good.

[Oscar Craven]

He's nice to me. Yeah. I have no idea what the.

[Trisha Paytas]

But his research is like, FBI. I think I commented. I was like, how do you know all this? Because, like, how are you getting all this? Like, he just. How do you know all this information of people that you don't know? Yeah, people are just giving you this over the phone willingness.

[Oscar Craven]

I guess. So. He says he'd spoke to 17 people who had source information about the dynamic between Alex Cooper and Alex Earl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it sounds like what I had heard. Alex Cooper's deal with Spotify, the $60 million deal, was about to be up, so she was about to level up to the. What was 125 million from who's it?

[Oscar Craven]

Was it serious?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe serious, but, like, in order to get that deal, she needed more on the Unwell Network than just call her daddy. And then when she got Alex Earle, she gave her 1.2 million a year. Year. And then got her 125 million, which I don't think she gets all the 125 million. That's what I heard. I don't know. I think bottom line is true. It's just like, Alex girl was too big for it. Like, anyone else would be probably thrilled by Grace O'. Malley. Like, 1.2 million should be like, yeah, I love it. But Alex girl was kind of already as big or getting up on the rise or whatever. Alex Cooper saw it. She's like, I'm gonna profit off this. It's just like business. But, yeah, it's all, as you say, unseasoned. You know what I mean? It's all like giving chicken cutlet raw. And it's just.

[Oscar Craven]

These are problems that, guess what? Every. Every normie in America has to deal with, like, getting screwed over in the business and the, you know, the corporate world. Getting knocked off the corporate ladder. Someone using your ideas and making money off of them and screwing over girl join the rest of us, mama. I know over there in Mar a Lago, maybe you don't have to deal with that. But guess what? We're here in the suburbs. We're dealing with the same issues I'm making. Back to Meghan Trainer. Actually, maybe this is where she gets canceled. When I had an interview for Meghan Trainer do her social media, I had to make a whole, whole deck for Meghan Trainor. I had, like, a whole, like, idea. Creative. Yes. I had it all themed, like, aesthetic. I'm like, okay, the vibe is going to be pink. This was pre era colors, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm like, this is the vibe I see for her. I think more of, like, a pink color story. I, like, made a fake Instagram feed of what it would look like. Never got a call back. But guess what? Her Instagram started being pink. And I'm like, damn, that's business for you. You know what I mean? That's just how it works. So, Alex, Earl, guess what? You're still rich. And the of the rest. Rest of us, we're not as lucky, you know, like I was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

I was still living in that apartment in North Hollywood, not making any money.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they took that deck.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, they took the deck and ran.

[Trisha Paytas]

So. So interesting. Gosh. Yeah. Because right when we closed. Closed, right when we, like, finished filming last week, it was like the Brian Chicken Fry came in and then as he was responding and I think, be better so this or someone else too. It's like, what a weird, like, seriously, no shade to Brion chick for Al, obviously. Like, we beef with her, whatever. But it's like, that's a weird person for Alex Cooper's, like, level to beef with because she's so, like, influential and gets all the biggest people. She's interviewing Kamala Harris. It's like, why did she care what, like, Brianna Chicken Fry incented herself with? Because it was just kind of like, I don't know, it just seems not on the same level at all.

[Oscar Craven]

I know. I. It's all, like, kind of weird to me. Again, I think it's because with Alex Cooper, it was more about the brand. Like, her brand started taking, like, reputational hits as far as not being as far as being, like, a little bit predatory when it comes to getting bookings or whatever. I think at the end of the day, whether it's Alex Cooper, her husband, whatever, like, yeah, she's a little bit vicious when it comes to business or, like, very much, like, about the bottom line. But that's just what people are like, that's just the real world, honey. Like, that's what, again, what everyone else has to deal with. So, like, why am I gonna get the tiniest violin to play for you? Because you only made, like, 1.2 million.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

Instead of, like, what you wanted, like, 2020. Because. Okay. Like, that. I think, again, that's why she can't come and make the story time tick tock of like, how she was wrong Cooper, because no one's gonna get zero empathy.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was on. She wasn't. Sophia with an F was on Alexa. Alexa Nyers. Do you remember her?

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was, like, on her podcast and she's like, so yeah, I was like, and why did I get canceled? What for like, wanting more money? For, like, not wanting to work for bar stool. And Shay. It's just like, not fair. She's like, us girls just get canceled and it's just like, not fair. She's like, like you, I'm sure you didn't get. Deserved to be canceled. And Lex. And I was like, well, I robbed Early's house. I was like, I think she had no idea who she was, but it was so funny. And like, sometimes people deserve. But then all the comments were literally like, sofia with enough didn't get canceled. She just like fell off. Yeah, she just like quit. Like, she just quit the thing. No one was canceling her for, like, not wanting to, like, continue. And then there's Dave. Tea by the sea has merch now for it. And then Brianna's pissed at him because she's like, I told him that in confidence and Dave just wanted to know the tea. And he said all. I don't even know. Talking about Amanda West. I don't know who the any of these people are, but she. I told him that in confidence and he said it out loud. Yeah, it's kind of. To me, I'm kind of like over it. Be better. Had me like intrigued for a minute. I was kind of like, well, let's see everyone you talk to. Because then

[Oscar Craven]

with an eye, girls, that's how I know this family's a little like, every name, they're swapping out a vowel with an I. I'm like, this isn't like Wheel of Fortune. You guys like, like, come on. It's Alex with an E. It's Ashton with an O. Like, let's be serious. Let's get serious. Challenge. I don't know. I don't really trust the patriarch of the Earl family. He's a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yeah, I think that's what it all comes down to. He's a little questionable too. Yeah. So I think.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, are you seated for the reality show?

[Oscar Craven]

No, absolutely not. I mean, this does. I'm sure people are very into Alex world and that's okay. I'm not gonna yuck anyone's yawn, but I'm like, this was your one chance. She did a little pap walk after people were still seated. My favorite trend, actually, this was my TikTok, was everyone putting themselves in different situations like these. This one girl put herself with the old man filter, so her face looked all old and wrinkly. It was like, Alex Earl. I'M an old man. This is my dying wish. Tell us about Alex Cooper. And this other girl put like headphones in her nose. Like she was on oxygen and she had like the little like heartbeat behind her. Like she's on the hospital bed. She's like, alex, I'm on my deathbed. I'm very ill. Please tell me what Alex Cooper did. Did like, girl, we were all begging. We're all so eat it. We're all supposed to see that. She threw it away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pole dancing video. She's like, I'm just gonna do a little poll.

[Oscar Craven]

Okay, I, I do need to know about this though, because she posted a video on a poll and then she wrote, sorry, been filming this week or whatever. But Alex Cooper's pinned. TikTok is just saw a girl say idolizing Trump is like thinking, thinking the stripper actually likes you. And it's from Twitter. 20October 2025. But it's her pin. Tick tock. So I need to know, when was it pinned? Was it pinned after Alex or Alex, obviously?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because why would it, I mean, that's so random. Why else would it be pinned?

[Oscar Craven]

That is. I'm sorry. Alex Cooper's taking it for me. I feel like, I feel like she's on popular side, but she's kind of taking it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I agree. I feel like at this point, like everyone, all these girls are rich. No one feels sorry for anybody in this situation. And it's just, just like, who's the morning who's gonna give us the messy. It's why I got back on the day for no journey. I'm always giving us tea. You know what I mean? I want the tea. And I love that Alice Cooper is giving it because she like doesn't need to, but she is. Uh huh.

[Oscar Craven]

And it's like again, if you're gonna be about to be about it, like if you're gonna be shady and repost and subtweet or whatever, step up to the plate when you're called, you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Nick Vile called Alex Cooper a hypocrite. Because he's like, isn't she doing the exact same thing that she's accusing Alex Earl of doing is he's like, why don't you just say it then?

[Oscar Craven]

Because she doesn't know. That's what she's asking. She's like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't think Alex Cooper knows the reason?

[Oscar Craven]

I don't think she knows. I don't think she knows the exact reason. I think maybe it's like the business thing or whatever. But if Alex Earl is going on about, like, how she's a vulture, she's like the tmz, she's preying on all these women, like, what exactly is your issue?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. Like, she seems like a lot of beef.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. So. And it's been a year of the. The vague posting. I'm like, girl, what exactly is your problem? Because honestly, I don't even know. I thought we were good. Like, I thought, yes, you know the business. I let you out with it. Whatever, you're doing great. You're the Carl's Jr. Whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Craven]

But you're vague, posting to hell and back. And I haven't been saying, I've been telling all the press that we're cool. But you're vague, posting that I'm like the devil, that I'm tmz, that I'm preying on women. So what is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

They need a book. She wait. She's waiting for the book to come out. Alex Earl or the reality show Taylor Frankie Paw. I think I'm saying she's writing a book now. She said she was waiting. Reading in the comments. She like, did her comeback yesterday. And then someone's like, oh, you should write a book. And she goes, oh, I got offered before and I never felt like it was time. And then she goes, now it's time. So she might be waiting for the book.

[Oscar Craven]

That's fair. I feel like at least TFP has, like a real story to tell, because I do think, like, she also is a victim in this too. Alex Earl. I'm not quite. Again, until new information comes out, maybe Alex Earl is gonna drop a bombshell and really gag me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, never.

[Oscar Craven]

And I'll be like, wow, Alex Cooper is, you know, the. The by sister of it all, you know? But until then, I'm like, but I

[Trisha Paytas]

think one thing by sister taught us after we did the deep dive on tour in our patreon, it was like everyone just looked like a clown. At the end of it. Everyone's like, everyone just stopped. Like, at first you're like, okay, team Tati. Then, wow, Team Charles, everyone, by like 2022. We're like, what are we doing with changes? That's when he had the freak out, right? And it's just like, you all look silly. And Jeffrey weirdly had the best exit where he was like, so in the middle of all the drama and then just decides to be like, guys, no more drama. I'm not talking about this.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm not doing this anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that side up? I love it. I love when you're like, I love it. Like, truly. I love that when someone's so messy and they're like, actually, I'm above this now. And I'm like, period. I think it's just so funny because it's just like, just such a way out of it as you should.

[Oscar Craven]

Even if, like, if Alix Earl at least did that and was like, you know what? What I'm. I'm not gonna do. You know what? At least she did something. But instead it's, like, on it. And then it's like, sorry, I've been so busy filming all week, and here I am dancing on a stripper pole, like, for cardio. Like, why? Clearly you have the time. Clearly you have the time. I know you have the time. Like, let's be serious. Challenge. I fear Alex Earl is a little unserious to me and. Sorry, Ashton, I'm sure you're sweet. I don't mean to come for you, for the eye in your name, but it is a little ridiculous. I digress. I can't. I can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's like, your sources are wrong. She let be betters. And I was just like, okay, then what's the truth?

[Oscar Craven]

Okay, you and your sister go make the tik tok and let us know what the truth is. But until then, I guess this is the information I have to go with. And right now it's not looking that good for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nothing.

[Oscar Craven]

It's giving us nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm just. I'm. I'm kind of uninterested. That should be inside. Unwell. Uninterested. Sophia, with an F. Now's your chance to make your own network. You, James, Charles, whoever else comes along

[Oscar Craven]

interested in that work kind of fears.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good name.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, I could get down to that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would. I would definitely put James on that.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. The Earls. I'm so sorry. They're for somebody. I don't know. They're for somebody.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're, like, pretty. Well, I don't know the sister. I don't know what she does well. I mean, I don't even know what she looks like. I'm sure she's pretty, but.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, I'm sure she's pretty. Alex Earl, like, on Dancing with the. Sorry. She seems sweet. I was like, oh, yeah, Nice girl. I already knew in the background. I already knew the. The Trump connections. I already knew the Zionist allegations. Not even allegations. Beliefs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Beliefs.

[Oscar Craven]

And like, the. The Gymshark lawsuit. Like, I already knew that, but it seemed like everyone was moving Past it. So I was like, okay, question mark. Maybe she changed. Yeah, I think reviews. I think she just got quiet. Which is like the smart thing to do, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Oscar Craven]

But I think that's why. What can she comes out about? It all just gets brought back up. I already see the switch up too, where, like, after Be Better's video, a lot of people who were like, pro Alex Earl at first when they were covering it were like, I forgot about this stuff. I think I'm switching back to Alex Cooper, which is like t. It's.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like the back and forth.

[Oscar Craven]

It's just gonna. It's just a mess. It's like the best way to win, I guess, is just by. Just say. Just Alex will just say it. Just say like, I'm not doing this. I'm not gonna get done and dirty. Be like, I'm gonna bow out. At least do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I just love that. Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. She's just given nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Instead, I'm just filming my reality show.

[Oscar Craven]

So boring. It's so boring to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nick. Val. Calling anyone a hypocrite, though. I was like, can we not?

[Oscar Craven]

Why don't you just worry about being. Not being on the no Fly List, you know? I mean, like, stop terrorizing random people on planes. Like, let's focus on that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

Like, come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Damn. Wow.

[Oscar Craven]

Worked up for no reason. Actually. Yeah, for a good reason. They're just like, I know. I was reading for you. Give us something, Alex Cooper. Yes, I will go to the next Unwell award ceremony.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Yeah. I have to be Team Alex. I'm on. I'm on the very biased side of this. I don't know.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm the most unbiased because I don't really care for either of them that much. Really. Like, I don't. I'm not, like, really seated for either of them. But from where I'm seeing both sides. I'm like, one of us is serving a little bit of zest, and the other one is, like, giving just, like, dry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you know Alex Cooper's husband was married to. She was a mermaid.

[Oscar Craven]

Yes, a girl from H2O slash the vampire Diaries. Everyone keeps bringing that up on the Team Alex Earl camp.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why?

[Oscar Craven]

Because everyone's like, Alex Earl's best friends with Clara Holt and who was Claire Hold's ex boyfriend or ex husband? Alex Cooper.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they best friends? I mean, that's kind of tea.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah, they're like BFFs or whatever. But I'm like, like, okay, then give Us. Something like, okay, that connection in and of itself isn't enough to like.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so random.

[Oscar Craven]

Famous, pretty white girls being friends. I feel like, well, this guy, also

[Trisha Paytas]

Matt, also dated the Olsen twins or one of the Olsen twins, Mary Kate or Ashley out of high school. I mean, I'm sure. I think he's young, too, but I

[Oscar Craven]

don't know, like, for rich, like, well connected, you know, Hollywood people, it kind of makes sense to me. I mean, look at, like, Haley and Justin, and then look at. They know everyone's dated. Justin dated Courtney, he dated Kylie, he dated Courtney, hooked up with Courtney, hooked up with Kylie, hooked up again. Like, everyone's kind of been passed around in. In this town.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I did say she, like, when she was younger, she would have been bothered if, like, someone she dated slept with one of her sisters, but she wouldn't be bothered anymore.

[Oscar Craven]

Check it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Small towel.

[Oscar Craven]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's mall.

[Oscar Craven]

So it doesn't really gag me that much.

[Trisha Paytas]

I find someone that didn't sleep with

[Oscar Craven]

even in gay world. Gay. Just like regular gay, regular folk, L.A. you know, they've all slept with each other. You know, everyone has openly. Everyone's sleeping around. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Craven]

Especially in Hollywood. I'm like, yeah, that totally makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need that podcast. Who Slept with who? And we ho.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, our collaboration with Chronically Online, girl. We have, like, all the photos. All the photos on the wall.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Chronically Online girl. That's why that podcast, it was like. I'm like, isn't someone named Chronically Online?

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, yeah, they should call it. Well, I guess Nicole doesn't have a podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

A triangle.

[Oscar Craven]

She does have a podcast, but it's not called Chronically Online.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why not? What's it called? Why wouldn't you do the cross branding?

[Oscar Craven]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it's such a good name. What was her podcast called?

[Oscar Craven]

She still has it. Talk Nasty to Me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's interesting. It's just. She. Okay.

[Oscar Craven]

She sues Harry Daniels.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I feel like she should have it be a cross promotion of the two, but. But anyways, it's a good name. Both of them are good names. Well, that's it.

[Oscar Craven]

I think so. It was a slow news week.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a slow news week. There wasn't much happening. How about over there, Water Boy? I was gonna call you Water Boy, and that sounded weird. My water man.

[Moses]

Just water is fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just water is. I like Twitter. Unfortunately, no one sees my tweets, so I feel like I don't do it enough.

[Oscar Craven]

I see it. The little Debbie.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're the Little Debbie. You're the avi. You're the avi. That situation.

[Moses]

No, you have the little fishes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. Because she even says to her, she goes, yeah, I've neglected Little Debbies. When you came along and I was like, oh, so cute. We could live together one day in Vegas.

[Oscar Craven]

Oh, especially because you would have, like, a. Such a big place in Vegas too.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll all, like, live there in a compound.

[Oscar Craven]

That'd be fierce. I'd be so down for that.

[Moses]

The.

[Oscar Craven]

My pitch. I never. I forgot to follow up with you. My pitch about me and the Flopcast girls being your. You and Tana's opener in Vegas. I imagine that's what a little show show. And like a cane.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're like, okay, well, I guess I have to see proof of concept. I need to say, I don't know if we have an opener, but, I mean, it probably could work.

[Oscar Craven]

I think. Yeah. Oscar and the Flopcast girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah. I think the three of them play the opener.

[Trisha Paytas]

That seems about right for that show. Gonna be chaos there.

[Oscar Craven]

Like, tip of the hat blue. Like top. I think that's the first. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's up to me. Done and done. Talk to the creative director, which is Tana. We gotta. We gotta figure it out. We are figuring it out. All right. I want to talk more, but we have Patreon. Okay.

[Oscar Craven]

I'm saving my real tea. I got a follow up to Alex Earl. But, like, I really want to be messy about it on a Patreon where I can be unshackled.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Oscar Craven]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Unhinged on.

[Oscar Craven]

Burdened.

[Trisha Paytas]

Unburdened. Thank you guys for being here. We talked a lot today. But the talking doesn't stop here. Go to patreon.com gestures today and see what else we have to talk about. Lots of good stuff. We'll see you guys there. Happy, happy Tuesday.

[Oscar Craven]

Happy Tuesday.

[Trisha Paytas]

See you next Tuesday.

[Oscar Craven]

This is your week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Shout out to the lesbians. I just. I love you. You make the world go round. And they are my favorite people. I can name them all right now, but I have probably two handfuls of lesbians that I just love so much, and they're. I'm everything and they know it. Thank you for watching. We'll see you in the next one.

[Oscar Craven]

Bye.