Ice Spice ATTACKED in Fast Food Restaurant & A Message to Hasan Piker... | Just Trish Ep. 270

Summary

Just Trish Podcast – Episode 270

Title: Ice Spice ATTACKED in Fast Food Restaurant & A Message to Hasan Piker...
Date: April 24, 2026
Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-Hosts: Oscar Gracey, Moses Hacmon

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Episode Overview

This episode of Just Trish is vintage Trisha Paytas: unpredictable, whip-smart, hilarious, and thoroughly obsessed with all things pop culture. Trisha and co-host Oscar Gracey dive into the week’s biggest internet and celebrity drama, offering deeply personal takes, sidebars about food, body image, influencer drama, reality TV, and some wild tangents on fast food etiquette, artificial smear campaigns, and shifting beauty standards. The eponymous “attack” on Ice Spice in a fast food spot sets off a broader discussion on fan entitlement, celebrity privacy, and the evolving energy of viral fame.

With honest, confessional flair, the hosts also break down “smear campaigns,” the state of Mormon Wives (and its new spinoff), the Ozempic body culture, influencer marketing, pop culture lawsuits, and more, all filtered through Trisha's signature mix of humor, heart, and chaos.

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Highlights & Key Discussion Points

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Food Obsessions & Influencer Eating Habits

[01:51–06:30]

• Trisha talks about her current obsession with peppercinos (banana peppers), recounting a trip where she grabbed ten at a fast food spot.
  • "I just feel so, like, life is worth living... Depression gone, depression cured. Gino peppercino. Hallelu, Oscar." (Trisha, 05:14)
• Conversation about food rituals, triggers, and how a great meal can set the tone for the day.
• Oscar admits to using Facebook Marketplace and Google sleuthing to find affordable, trendy furniture.
  • “I find furniture that I like... at a price that’s kind of unbearable to me, and then it’s a challenge: can I find it cheaper somewhere?” (Oscar, 08:02)

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Viral Telepathy, Internet Obsessions & The "Halleluz" Trend

[06:31–07:46]

• Hosts riff on gratitude trends and the “Halleluz” meme from TikTok: celebrating the small joys (like a good plumber or a furniture discount).
• Oscar explains his methodical, hyper-fixated approach to decorating his new place, including his dream of owning a saltwater tank.

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Social Media & Influencer Marketing Realities

[09:43–13:39]

• Oscar details tactics for getting influencer brand deals, describing pitching himself to various companies and using Trisha’s name for leverage.
  • “I'm like, I always name drop you in the first sentence. I don't know if that's good or bad, but maybe...”
• Discussion on Moses’s new cooking channel outpacing Trish’s adsense and the surprising profitability of viral food content.

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Celebrity Gossip & Recent Viral Moments

Trisha’s Fast Food Encounter + Ice Spice Incident

[16:25–21:14]

• Trisha narrates an awkward run-in with a couple filming themselves while she was trying to record, feeling self-conscious about being recognized.
• The conversation segues to the viral security cam footage of rapper Ice Spice being “attacked” in a fast food restaurant:
  • “The girl in question who went up to Ice Spice in that fast food restaurant told her side of the story... complete contradiction to the security footage.” (Oscar, 20:01)
• Hot take: celebrities don't owe fans anything in random settings.
• Critique of people blaming Ice Spice for not engaging with fans or “inviting strangers to sit with her” – hosts find this logic strange.

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The Dark Side of PR: Smear Campaigns & Hit Pieces

[24:22–32:58]

• In-depth conversation about “hit pieces,” media leaks, and legal gray zones around celebrity-scapegoating PR.
  • “It’s like the publicist of the dark side…I guess…to promote negative things about your enemies.” (Oscar, 24:30)
• Discussion of recent PR scandals involving Alex Cooper (Call Her Daddy), Alex Earl, and the Unwell Network, including work environment exposes and whether crisis PR is manipulating headlines in real time.
• Rebel Wilson and the world of “smear or be smeared” examined—how lawsuits between parties might reveal hidden PR machinations and disinformation online.

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Reality TV Circuit: Mormon Wives, Hulu Events, & The Bachelor

[39:41–45:37]

• Latest tea on “Secrets & Lies: Mormon Wives” Hulu show, with cast shakeups (Taylor returning, Dakota out) and real-life legal battles.
• Reality TV production details: cast members given the option to return amid controversy, using public statements and social media to sway perception.
• Bachelor season drama—possibility of the postponed season airing after charges against contestants were dropped.

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Shifting Body Positivity: Weight Loss Culture, Ozempic, & Social Media

[61:26–95:56]

• Reflections on “The Devil Wears Prada 2,” the body positivity arc, and fashion’s evolving standards.
  • “Anne Hathaway is still giving...standing strong in the 2020 body positivity movement that has vanished in 2026.” (Oscar, 57:56)
• Open talk about the rampant use of Ozempic and hormone treatments in LA, and how fat culture is disappearing:
  • “...every big person, like, I feel, wants to be skinny. I don’t know if there’s any big person who also doesn’t, like, want to be a little smaller.” (Trisha, 94:01)
• Discussion about the pressure (and backlash) when plus-size celebrities lose weight—citing Meghan Trainor, Remi, and more.
• The hosts compare childhood bullying and body image trauma, connecting personal anecdotes to broader societal change.

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Influencer Drama, Product Spawns, & Viral Brand Deals

[96:00–102:03]

• Trisha and Oscar test and review viral health snacks (Cloud popcorn, protein chips, etc.), discuss influencer-driven trends.
• Oscar is openly influenced by friends: “You and Jimmy can very easily influence me.”
• Touches on the phenomenon of sponsorships at social events (e.g. Capital One sponsoring a wedding shoot) and the boundaries between authenticity and #sponcon.

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Rapid-Fire Pop Culture Updates

[123:33–129:44]

• Celebrity Engagements: Zoë Kravitz and Harry Styles rumored to be engaged.
  • “She had a huge diamond on that finger. And it also didn’t look sized yet...like something fresh.” (Oscar, 123:58)
• Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi: Relationship confirmed; lesbian Twitter claims persist, which Trish deconstructs with humor.
• Influencer Just Jazzy: Caught flak for using her wedding photos in a sponsored Capital One post—a debate on influencer hustle and internet outrage.
• Mormon Wives: Orange County Spinoff Announced: New influencer-heavy cast, Bobby Altoff included, and fan speculation as to who's returning.

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Notable Quotes

• On Fan/Influencer Dynamics:
  • “People are sometimes insane online. Like, what do you mean, ‘well, if you just did that, it would be fine.’” – Trisha (20:53)
• On the PR Hit Machine:
  • “You get that all the time with TikTok…if you see so many posts of, like, pointing out negative things about someone, you’re like, oh, this person sucks.” – Oscar (29:47)
• On Growing Up & Body Confidence:
  • “Girls are into, like, the shredded look anymore…I read that girls aren’t into abs anymore, and they also want their men a little fruity.” – Oscar (88:35)
  • “There is nothing worse than, like, toxic masculine fight club…There is nothing better than a man who’s a little fruity, a little secure in his self.” – Trisha (88:50)
• On Celebrity & Fatness:
  • “We're losing the body positivity movement, you know, it's vanished.” – Oscar (62:21)

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Memorable Moments & Miscellaneous

• Trisha’s food rants and love for eating in solitude (with peppercinos) set the episode’s tone.
• A running gag about Trisha’s failed attempts to get on-brand influencer deals.
• Oscar’s fevered desire to appear in a Hasan Piker video—met with loving skepticism from Trisha.
• Playground nostalgia, bullying stories, and the realization that high school is just a “blip” that vanishes in adult life.
• [123:33]: A live on-air moment: Trisha surprises Oscar with news that he’s secured a cameo in a commercial—cue genuine delight.
  • “That’s my cameo era!” (Oscar, 123:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|-----------------------------------------------| | 01:51–06:30 | Peppercinis, food addiction, and the joy of eating | | 16:25–21:14 | Trisha vs. influencer couple; Ice Spice viral incident | | 24:22–32:58 | Smear campaigns, hit pieces, and PR manipulation | | 39:41–45:37 | Reality TV: Mormon Wives, Mormon Wives: OC, and Bachelor scandal | | 61:26–95:56 | Fatness, Ozempic, and shifting celebrity body standards | | 96:00–102:03| Cloud popcorn reviews, Chloé Kardashian’s “blackfishing” billboard | | 123:33–129:44 | Celebrity engagement rumors & rapid-fire pop updates | | 131:11–136:12 | Oscar’s failed pitch for Hasan Piker’s video; talk about boundaries & rejection |

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Tone & Style

The conversation is at once rapid fire, wildly honest, and full of inside jokes and hot takes. Trisha’s stream-of-consciousness style is balanced by Oscar’s encyclopedic pop culture recall and occasionally self-deprecating wit. Moses interjects with calm counterpoints and practical, thoughtful asides.

The episode is a true fly-on-the-wall look at pop culture obsession, influencer hustle, and social commentary—a must-listen for anyone invested in the internet’s ongoing, messy spectacle.

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For first-time listeners:

This episode of Just Trish is an unfiltered, slightly chaotic ride through the week’s most viral drama—with the hosts’ personal experience always front and center. You’ll exit feeling caught up on every corner of the internet and laughing at the absurdity of it all.

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Bonus:
Check out Patreon.com/justtrish for more bonus episodes, behind-the-scenes, and extra hot takes.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Just.

[A]

Yay. Hello. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. It's cool girl. Thursday. H. I love a Thursday. I love a Thursday. The most relaxing day of the week. Bolognese night. Today's episode is brought to you by Peppercinos. Oh my God. Is that what they're called? Pepcinos? The one that they squirt everywhere. It's like a jalapeno, but it's not. Is it a peppercino?

[B]

I think you're right.

[A]

I think peppercino. Cuz we talked about them before. They're so I can eat peppercinos now. Seriously, like 10. I had 10. I had 10. That's why it took me a minute.

[B]

You went to the drive thru and ordered 10 peppercinos?

[A]

No, I went inside and got 10 peppercinos and I was like, well cuz you okay, new hack. Okay, not sponsored right now, but new hack for that. Usually I had to wait till 10:30 to order, but like I was like 10. It was like 10, 10 when I got there and it like people were already going in. Like me and all the construction workers were going in at 10 to 10 and it was like we ordered at 10:15. The food came out at 10:20. I would have been here like, way faster. But I was on a call, but I had like 10 peppercinos. Cause you can just like take them yourself there. I had so many, many peppercinos. They're so good. They're kind of like a little spicy, a little tangy, a little sweet. Oh, I feel like it gave me a little high. Like, I feel a little rush. You eat a peppercino. Have you ever had them there?

[C]

I like them.

[A]

You have.

[C]

Are they called like banana peppers or. I don't know. They have different names.

[A]

Maybe it's banana pepper. We did look this up. I don't know. I can't remember.

[B]

I remember we talked about it. Cuz. Put some in the.

[A]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[B]

That's kind of a. Yeah.

[C]

I do love them. If you eat something spicy.

[A]

I like those because it's just subtle. It's not like a burning my mouth. It's like just a little something between

[C]

a pickle and a jalapeno.

[A]

Never.

[B]

It is a peppercino.

[A]

I thought so because I stuck in my mind and now I'm like on a peppercino kick. You like peppercinos over there?

[B]

No, but can you try?

[A]

We need a Patreon where you're just trying things.

[B]

Oscar tries things.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I feel like Fear factor episode.

[B]

That is kind of giving that.

[A]

Can I say, because I was like you and I am like you. I am picky. I am like picky. But then it's like when you just try a peppercino. Like, it's crunchy, you like it. Like you like a crunch, you like.

[B]

You're right. Because I've never tried it. I just assumed it's something I wouldn't like just by looking at it. So, you know, maybe this is the year of the horse. The year of getting on up and trying things. I suppose.

[A]

Try the peppercino. There was another thing I was going, haven't tried.

[B]

Was it something fishy? No.

[A]

Oh, like a fish. Like a fish. Tin fish?

[B]

Yeah. Something from the tin fish.

[A]

I mean, that one is diabolical. I'm trying to steer you in the right direction. Was there a healthy one? Something elthy I ate and you like, never had. It was like peanut butter on celery or something. Remember one time I was like.

[B]

I have never had that either. Yeah, celery.

[A]

Not even peanut butter. Like the ants on a log where

[C]

you put like, oh, my God, celery on its own. Just like.

[B]

No, I mean, I feel like I'm gonna have a Trisha moment. Someone's gonna find a clip of me eating celery. Somewhere, But I don't think so.

[A]

So. Wow.

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

That is crazy because, like, I don't love, like, veggie. You eat veggies. But, like, celeries are, like, refreshing. And then, like, back in the. You know, when you're a kid, you put, like, peanut butter. You're not peanut butter person.

[B]

Depends on the circumstance.

[A]

What's a circumstance? You like peanut butter.

[B]

I like a PB and J, and I like apples and peanut butter. I go down with apples and peanut butter.

[A]

Well, then celery and peanut butter is even better. It just hits better. It's a better combination. I never. I never heard of apples and peanut butter. But, like, if you like that, then you're like celery and peanut butter. It's just so good. I just am so much happier when I just have some food in me. I'm just.

[B]

That's true. Yeah.

[A]

You already know. You know. Yeah. It's like, if anyone. It's actually. We talked about this in it. But it's a real. It's like a real trigger. It's like, what is it? Like, almost like a real disease. Like, maybe not disease. That's like, the wrong word. Like, what is it? Like, it's a real problem when I don't eat what I want to eat. Like, it's so weird. It's like a really weird. I wonder if it's, like, mental illness or if it's, like, eating something. Like, something. A thing I have with food. Like, a problem that I have with food. Because it's like, I do get, like, angry. It's, like, really weird. I mean, I can handle my triggers now. I know. Obviously, I just eat what I want now. But, like, it's crazy, I think, just

[C]

when you put so much weight on food.

[B]

So much. What?

[A]

Yeah. How much weight? Who has weight?

[C]

Then when the food is not right, then it. It. It's a big trigger, you know?

[A]

I know.

[C]

Like, if I. If I have a whole. If I have a day where I'm gonna have one meal that day because of whatever work and things, that meal has to be perfect. And if it's not.

[A]

Oh, you get like that, too.

[C]

Then it ruins it just ruins it. Like, I was just like, I just rather not eat at all kind of thing, you know?

[A]

It's like, very me. Oh. I very much. Like, if it's wrong, like, just. I just don't even think about giving me any other food. But then when I have something wonderful, like yesterday or charcuterie, board of steak and asparagus and watermelon eggs. It was like. And cloud eggs. It was like the dream meal. Like, I was on cloud nine all day, even at night when I went to bed, Like, I had nothing else. And I was just like, I'm so happy. Like, I'm so happy. And I feel that way right now. Having those 10 peppercinos. I just feel so, like, life is worth living. Like, that's it. Depression gone, depression cured. Gino Peppercino. Hallelu, Oscar. Hallelu. Getting furniture at a discount. Hallelu. Did I say right? Is that. Who says it?

[B]

Honestly, I see the little trend and I keep it scrolling. No offense to the, the believers out there. I, I respect it, but I mind my own business, you know?

[A]

Yeah. I don't know what it's from either. Tiana. We did it. We did that. TikTok and Tana's, like, doing it. The sound, and she, you know, we're, like, being cute in it, but it sounded, like, really sad. I'm like, is this like a sound someone uses, like, when they're like, dead or something? But then she knows, like, a trend? And I was like, oh, just a bunch of things. Hallelujah.

[B]

Yeah. I think it's like, almost like I am thankful for kind of thing, because I know he did it and he Echoella when he was performing the song and he was like, hal. Hallelujah. Yeah.

[A]

So I like gratitude. I like that.

[B]

Yeah. I think it's kind of a gratitude moment.

[A]

Let's do your Halleluz.

[B]

There's just so much.

[A]

Oh, that's good. So that goes with the trend.

[B]

Oh, yeah. It would just be like a lot of time.

[A]

Yeah. So you have.

[B]

I have my, my house. Hallelujah. A good plumber. Hallelujah.

[A]

Hallelo to that.

[C]

When you have a house, you, you

[B]

gotta have the plumber on standby. Trisha Moses. Hallelujah. Yeah. Before Darian. Darian. Hallelujah. Ted Nivison. You just have people in your house.

[A]

CB2 down in Seal Beach. Hallelujah.

[B]

Outlet stores in general. Hallelujah. Yeah. I've been having so much fun with finding furniture for cheap.

[A]

Oh, I was getting excited for you. He was telling me all the what he saw at full price and what he got at discount. I'm like, that's a talent to find that like dupes you showed you on Facebook market. But I'm like, that's like, that's a talent.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, I'm all in on, on this little game that I, I, I find furniture that I like and it's At a price that's kind of unbearable to me. And then it's like a challenge. Like, find it cheaper somewhere somehow. And it's been a lot of Facebook marketplace, a lot of reverse image searching on Google, a lot of just typing in adjectives that describe the furniture I like. And you'd be surprised what comes up. Like, I just type in the keywords, like, the color of the wood and whatever, like, element is there. Like, fluted, bleached wood.

[A]

Wow, nice.

[B]

And then you'd be surprised what comes up.

[A]

I wouldn't even know a fluted wood. What does it look like? Like, what is fluted mean?

[B]

There's little ridges on the wood. Like this little design on the wood. That's learning a lot.

[A]

That is. Are you someone who needs to. Have you wrote a book?

[B]

Have I wrote a book?

[A]

Yeah. Or do you write? Do you publish articles? You're a writer, right?

[B]

I have published articles.

[A]

You have?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You're so good with words. Like, you should write a book. Like, every word you say, I'm like, how do you even know that? Like, that's insane. You should definitely write a book. You're so smart.

[B]

I almost minored in English, but then I didn't want to do, like, an extra semester. So I'm like, I'm just good with the one major, but.

[A]

Oh, you don't have to do a minor if you did a major.

[B]

Yeah, you just got you. You can pick one thing. You can add a minor when you graduate, but you have to get the credits to qualify for a minor. And I would have had to do an extra semester. And I was like, girl, just get me out of here at this point.

[A]

How many years did you go?

[B]

Four and a half.

[A]

And why would someone want to put extra work on their degree? A degree is a degree, right? Like, does anyone know, like, oh, I have a minor in English.

[B]

Let's see. I guess for the credit for the accreditations. I'm saying that word wrong. But now that I am a working adult and I have never been asked once about, like, my degree, I'm like, girl, thank God I just got out of there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, sounds like a good plan. I had another question for you. Oh, furniture. Are you someone who needs to move? Are you someone. Hey, me, my brother. Complete opposites. Like, my brother will move new house, and he has to get everything done. Two weeks, all the renovations all move in. Where Someone who's been here, like, five years in this house and we still haven't got Beetlejuice cabinets. You know what I mean? Like, we're very, like, slow to move in. How are you with.

[B]

I went in thinking I'd be like, girl, just take your time. And then as I started, like, finding stuff, now I'm like, girl, let's get it all done, the big stuff done. And then you can focus on the little stuff and just relax. Because I'm also a hyper fixator. So when I, like, am trying to fill in the gaps or whatever, like, it's all I can think about. So even though I have all this other furniture, I'm like. But I'm still missing this. And then it, like, takes over my brain and it's, like, all I think about. And I'm also off on medication right now. Disclaimer. I should have said at the beginning because. Not because of free will, but because there's Adderall shortage.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

So disclaimer. In case I'm very sidetracked, maybe episode, but no cd.

[A]

Last episode. I thought of you when we did the ad read. Right.

[B]

It is.

[A]

OCD is like you could possibly think about something.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes. So.

[A]

Well, not to say that's a substitute for your medication, obviously.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. But it is a good resource, I think. For real.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, and I made, like, a list, too, of, like, things to focus on at the beginning, things to focus on somewhere down the line, things for way in the future.

[A]

What's a way in the future thing?

[B]

This is actually really relevant. Does anyone care? I don't know. But I. My dream, besides the house, like, I always envisioned a saltwater tank. Like, you know, because I try to make you guys get one for the longest time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, the concept of having just like a big saltwater tank, like, that was everything to me.

[A]

Put it out there.

[B]

So that was, like, at the end of my list. Yeah. And I already had the exact one, like, on my Google, like, slides presentation where I put the dream furniture and everything, and I had the exact tank. And then yesterday I found it on Facebook Marketplace for half the price. But it's still kind of expensive, so I'm still like, oh, I don't know. So I might have one foot in the door, one foot out the door on it. Because, like, I'm talking to the seller who seems a little eccentric, but I guess that's the fish community.

[A]

Yeah. Anyone who has a big fish tank of salt water in their house, what do you. Aquaman. Why do you have that much in your house? That's so interesting.

[B]

Yeah. I think that's just a fish community.

[C]

But then it can Have Nemo D.

[B]

That's why I'm like, I kind of think I should just. And I know exactly where it's gonna go. And it's the exact tank I wanted. And it is literally half the price because it also comes with all the equipment that I would have had to get eventually. Like, it's all ready to go.

[A]

Kind of meant to be. Honestly, you should treat yourself, especially if you're like thinking about a lot and you did see it. Like, sometimes you just gotta.

[B]

It does feel kind of like a sign. It feels like divine intervention.

[A]

Wow. Start with that first and the furniture later.

[B]

Yeah. I do have the basics at least. So that's.

[A]

That's all you need.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And I figured too. Last time I was down, it was like, no furniture. Places have responded to my pitch emails. And then I keep saying them. Give every white girl with 5, 000 followers on tick tock, like a whole lifestyle living room makeover. And I'm kind of like, you DM them. They actually have forms like on their website. They're like, influencer program. So I'm like, sure. And my little pitch, I was like, you know, I always name drop you first sentence. I'm like, I don't know if that's

[A]

good or bad, but maybe, maybe they're like, oh, not her. I haven't been offered it. What is the company? I guess we can bleep it or we can say it. I don't know.

[B]

There's actually a lot of them. The one I'm after right now is called Tove and they're. They're also at Coachella, so it's like tv. Yeah, Coachella, like activation when I apply. So I was like, maybe they're a little sidetracked, so maybe I'll throw my hat in the room again. But I'm also in the mindset of like, do the work now and everything else will follow. Yeah, that's a good mindset, right?

[A]

Yeah. And I would also like, you know, put like a house doing a house series. Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Like, yes, yes.

[A]

And then be like anyone looking for furniture, product placement, literally just going to like show.

[B]

Like, I'm gonna put all the work into it and the effort into it. And I'm just like kind of like Moses cooking chat. He's doing the work and everything's kind of following, you know, like the followers, the subscribers, the brand deals.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm more Moses mentality.

[A]

It is actually amazing, like, all the brand deals he's getting for this cooking channel. I just started literally two weeks ago. The views, the. The. What is it? The adsense is better than mine. I was like, how are you? His Facebook is getting, like, 80,000 views. Just ladling up some super. Whatever you're doing the other day. It's kind of crazy. I was like. He's like, oh, yeah, I get paid for that. I was like, how do you get paid for that? Like, I'm so confused. He was showing me all the, like, levels of income as an influencer, and I was just like, I'm, like, truly gagged by it. And I think it's everything, but I'm.

[C]

Cooking is a niche, you know, it's a place where I love it. You know, we feed you pop culture and you feed you food, you know, take care of you. Like, yeah, food is important. A lot of people go, like, that's how we do it. Like, if I need a recipe, if I need something, I go either on Instagram or on Tick Tock. And I look for what people are making, you know, so it's not even necessarily somebody following me. They're just looking for a recipe.

[A]

I think they're following you. You're in the thumbnail. How are you? Moses cooking videos. Subscribe.

[C]

Good, good. I was just showing my mug. Yep.

[A]

Oh, that mug. I thought you were gonna use the other mug. Did you already show the other mug or. That's for another time.

[C]

For another time.

[A]

I love this mug. Yeah.

[C]

Because I like this one. It comes with a coaster, too.

[A]

Oh, what does it come with? I think they're sold separately at the show. There's more seats that just opened up at the Royal Albert Hall. They released some of the royal seats, and I guess they're. They're opening up some seats.

[C]

Yeah, because, I mean, they have so

[A]

many seats that are blocked off for the royals. I guess the royals aren't making it.

[B]

A lot of royals.

[A]

Maybe that's true.

[B]

Princess Eugenie, maybe.

[A]

Who's that? What's she? Princess?

[B]

She's one of the cousins, I think she's Prince William and Harry's cousin.

[A]

Well, Fergie.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Sarah Ferguson.

[A]

Yeah. Is she a duchess?

[B]

Duchess, yeah.

[A]

She's still a duchess.

[B]

I have not kept up with her, but I would assume.

[A]

How do you know?

[B]

It's kind of hard to lose your title. Wasn't she in, like, a commercial for something?

[A]

Yeah, like Weight Watchers or something.

[B]

Yes, I think it was.

[A]

That's how I know her too. And I feel like Oprah had her on or something. And I was like, oh, I love that you know her. We're very aligned.

[B]

I think. We grew up with Weight Watchers.

[A]

Yeah. And it's fun fast. Yeah. Oh, my God. Diet culture was crazy. Well, you know, I feel cool. What do you. How do you. What do you think of my look with my sunglasses in my purse?

[C]

Well, I thought you were leaving.

[A]

Oh, does it look like that? It does. I do feel like I did.

[C]

Like, you're ready to wrap it up.

[B]

It looks like you're ready to go play, like a game of cricket with Holly Madison.

[A]

Oh, I love that.

[B]

That's kind of what you're giving Pickleball. Pickleball with Holly after this. It's kind of what you do.

[A]

That's why I'm in my pickleball era, for sure. I do. Yes. Have you played? Oh, I am a pickleball queen right now, and I love it so much. I should do a TikTok on it. It's just, like, awkward. Ask someone who's, like, teaching you to, like, film you, because they're probably like, are you just doing this for content? You know, it's so funny. Morning. There was, like, nobody there. There's like, four construction workers. And then there was, like, an influencer couple, I'm assuming influencer. Or maybe they just really love taking pictures and videos of each other, but they were, like, filming everything. And anyways, that nobody was sitting down because the. The workers were waiting for their food to go. And then, like, I had my stuff at the booth, and there's like six people booths, and then they put their stuff right next to the my booth. So then I moved over. And then I. Then I started overthinking it. Then I was thinking, like, what if they are like, oh, Trisha moved away from us or something? You know what I mean? And I just was. The only reason I was thinking is I wanted to film, and I didn't want to be, like, distracting them because I was going to talk. They were also filming everything. So I was like, well, I don't need to be, like, in the back, like, shoveling food in my mouth if they're, like, filming, because they were, like, both filming each other. And I don't know if they were influencers or just people who like to film themselves, but I was worried that they were influencers and they might be like, Trisha just moved seats when she saw we were sitting next to her or something like that. I don't know. Like, I, I just, I. I lower thanked it a little bit.

[B]

Well, at least you got it out here.

[A]

I guess that's what I want to say is it was literally not you was me. I'm already embarrassed. You'll see in my tick tock. I'm like whispering also. I was like underneath the fan. It was like this whole thing. I really is just like, I just didn't want to be in the background shoveling food in your mouth. But. But also I don't think they like knew me. I don't think it was even like that because I think if they were like filming and like, you know, people are not shy, they'd be like, oh, can I have a, a picture? I think they literally might have been just filming themselves. But you guys were wonderful and you ate. You were, you were, you were giving. It made me sad because it was a couple and I was like, oh, like the boy was taking pictures of the girl and then the girl was taking pictures of the boy and the boy was giving and I was just like, oh my gosh. Like I wanted. He was doing poses. He was, they were, they were standing

[B]

up, serving like, he sounds gay. Are you sure it wasn't like a girl and her girl?

[A]

I don't think so. Because he didn't know me. He didn't know who I was. So it was very giving. Like they didn't know me. But then also I felt like, oh, they were sad that I moved cuz they were. Cuz it wasn't one of those things where it's like, you know, why are you moving away?

[B]

So I can concept of thinking everyone with an iPhone knows you. I live for that.

[A]

I know, I know. I didn't know. I know. I didn't.

[C]

It was just the journey of the thoughts of like, instead of just doing what you're doing and being in what

[A]

you're doing right in the background. Because I brought my tripod. My, my.

[C]

No, but that's what I'm saying. It makes all the sense in the world to move over.

[A]

Oh, okay, okay.

[C]

Because of noise, because of pictures. Yeah. You don't have.

[A]

I just. Because they had their tripod and I also just don't want to be like shoveling food in the back. I would have been like if they were like fans and can you be in this? I would have been like, yeah, but I don't think they were like that vibe. But then I was just thinking like, I also don't want to be like rude and be like they wanted to just maybe they felt safe with me. You know what I mean? Maybe they were like, well, like, this is another person we can sit next to.

[B]

So I don't know every scenario you possibly thought of.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

I felt.

[A]

Oh, no, I felt very safe in there. Everybody in there was very nice. Like, even the guys who probably didn't know who I was, they were very much like, oh, love the pink. Another one told me I looked like Barbie. Like, everyone was very friendly in there today.

[B]

So I. Spice should go over there.

[A]

Yeah, that would never happen. Oh, my God. I never. It was the same scenario. Like, I was in the booth. That is a crazy. I guess we know about now.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

No, I guess I can't anyways. But the fast food chain that she was in, it is crazy. That happened because it was just like a person that knew her, that just recognized her, I guess. So, like, she knew and she came up to her because she knew. And then what happened?

[B]

I wanted her to twerk. Yeah.

[A]

Oh. Oh, okay. That means more context. I thought the. The girl. I thought the girl explained that she was just like a fan. Talk to her and she was like, disrespectful to her or something like that.

[B]

No, the girl in question who went up to Ice Spice in that fast food restaurant told her side of the story. That was a complete contradiction to the security footage that we all saw. She was like, I just went up to. I was a fan. And then. But I'm like, girl, we saw the security footage. You, like, went up in her face. And then you were the instigator. Like, you're the one that started.

[A]

Started swinging but knew who she was. Wasn't just like a random.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz like, originally asked for, like, twerk on because, you know, Ice Spice, that's her thing.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

But yeah, and then some people I like on Tick Tock I think were like, well, she should have asked her to come sit down and have. Have her meal with her. I was like, what? Like, how are you? They're like, I suppose should have just. If she just, like, was nice and asked her to sit down and eat with her, none of this would happen. I was like, how are you gonna victim blame? Like, I'm not gonna invite no stranger.

[A]

Why would you do that with anybody? But also someone that. Yeah, no, that's. That's a weird. People are sometimes insane online. Like, what do you mean? Like, well, if you just did that, it would be fine. Like what? Like, it's so. Okay. I don't agree with that at all. That's so weird. Well, that was a crazy situation. It's on camera too.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I guess it Is kind of wild. Ice Spice was just like in a fast food restaurant.

[B]

That was my first thought. I was like, I don't think I've even done that, like, since the playhouses

[A]

were a thing, you know what I mean?

[B]

When I had a little bit more motivation to actually go in and eat my little meal in there.

[A]

Yeah. To just sit in there. I guess it's like a vibe, I guess if you want to, like, catch up with someone. Just a random place because. Was it in LA or where was it?

[B]

La. Yeah.

[A]

There's so many, like, places to catch a vibe with somebody.

[B]

I know. Especially when you're Ice Spice girl.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah. She got the last laugh though, because the brand deals started rolling in after that. Cause she really handled herself well. And she was funny throughout the whole thing. She held her own. Yeah, it was fierce.

[A]

I like her.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

We were close to getting her on the podcast, remember?

[B]

Yeah. Back in the day.

[A]

2023.

[B]

Huh? You got to get that little cosplay back out.

[A]

That was a good one. I know. She has like blonde hair now. I saw her like with blonde hair and I was like, oh, she looks kind of cute. Is that her last time also too? I was like, oh, we were so close. She sent me a DM like a couple weeks ago. I was like, wow, we were so close. She was busy schedule. But like, I'm coming on the pod girl. And then I saw her and call her daddy. We really do.

[B]

Alex. Earl. I've always said I Had your back, girl. Team Earl on God. A L I X E A R L E. Love the whole family. Ashton with an I. That dad.

[A]

Our show is just called Hypocrites.

[B]

The second I saw Zara lost on the call of Daddy couch, I said, oh, no, I'm flipping. I'm flipping the script. I'm gonna go on a stripper poll with Alex Earl. Unless, you know what, she doesn't have to speak on anything. Yeah, we don't need to hear her side of the story, you know, believe women. Believe women. Believe the report. There's a woman too, but she's not making any. Any accusations. Alex. Alex Earl's one. Making them so, you know.

[A]

Oh, wait, what's her accusation?

[B]

I guess just all the repos. I don't honestly don't know, nor do I care that much.

[A]

Current one current repost or like the old repost?

[B]

Old ones. Pre Alex Cooper.

[A]

I did see a blind item that said a certain blonde girl with the same name as her enemy is going to do a tell all about another podcaster's husband because you sent me. And now I see the hit pieces are coming in about the Unwell network.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Okay, now when you call it, you said hit piece, right? Or did I just make that up?

[B]

No, I said it when I said it was like, oh, this hit piece.

[A]

What is a hit piece? Is it like. A hit piece is something where, like, someone is strategically trying to take someone down?

[B]

Yeah, it's basically unintentionally eating publications bad, negative information about an adversary to get more coverage for it. It's like the. The publicist of the dark side, I guess. You know what I mean? It's like you people have publicists to promote good things that someone does, and then, then dark side of that, the negative, is you have a publicist to promote negative things about your enemies, you

[A]

know, so wait, but can't you find out, can you ever find out who the dark side publicist was? Well, that leaked it.

[C]

Sometimes.

[B]

Sometimes it. But journalists have like a code where you can't clock your source. Basically, like, you can't really expose.

[A]

What if it's lies? What if you're like, that's not real. Like, like they're like, oh, look at these text messages. Like, those are not real.

[B]

See, then they can. They can get sued. You have to be careful with it for sure.

[A]

Because can they reveal the source in

[B]

court, then I think it would have to be like subpoenaed or something. But even then, it's like the law kind of protects Journalists and there's horses and stuff. So it gets a little. A little nuts. And then that's why it goes to the jury.

[A]

So can you just go to a publication, be like, I heard this about Trisha and I'm close to her, so I'm a source. And then you can't tell her who I am?

[B]

It depends on. Also on the outlet, because different outlets have a different standard of journalism. So you do have some outlets where you can get away with, like, one person claiming their source and then they'll publish it. And it's like, very much like allegedly, and it sounds very kind of crazy and fan fictiony. And then there's like, the People magazines and stuff that are known to be, like, very reputable. And they have to go through a lot of, like, checks before they publish information. Like, they'll check with other sources to back the claims before they go and publish them something, if that makes sense.

[A]

So the person with the. Alex Cooper they went to, was it Variety?

[B]

They originally went to Bloomberg.

[A]

What is that?

[B]

It's more of a business financial outlet.

[A]

Yeah. I think of, like, Bloomberg Television. My dad used to watch. It was like, stocks every morning.

[C]

It's a big. Oh, they do everything.

[A]

They're like a Variety now,

[B]

I think they.

[C]

But isn't that, like, what happened between, like, Rebel Wilson is now in court about trying to do PR about people?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The whole thing that happened.

[A]

She's the epicenter of everything. She's always battling something. I love it. Why. Why is she at the front of that? Like, what did she.

[B]

What.

[A]

What slanderous things about her?

[C]

It's kind of the same thing. She was trying to create some story. We don't actually don't know, but she had a fallout with a producer from the show, and then she was trying to, what, show her movie. A movie she made.

[A]

Rebel Wilson?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, separate from the Sasha Baron Cohen thing.

[B]

Yes. Yes. This was recent.

[C]

It's ongoing now.

[A]

You tell me this. I love it.

[B]

It was a hot topic at one point, like. But we talked about it. Yes.

[A]

Rebel Wilson. And she wasn't in the thumbnail. I love a Rebel Wilson hot topic. Can you give me a rundown, a

[B]

quick debrief, what Moses said? Yeah, like, there was creative differences with her and the producer, I think. Right? Yeah.

[C]

Producer on a movie.

[B]

Film. Yeah. And she was. There was like, a leaked voicemail between one of a publicist that was sent to, I think, Variety that detailed, like, running a smear campaign against that producer

[A]

and saying that she was trying to do the smear campaign.

[B]

Allegedly claiming. Claims. There's claims that she was trying.

[A]

Now she's trying to battle and be like, we hate these smear campaigns. Is that what you're saying? She's, like, trying to, like, be like, stop these smear campaigns?

[C]

No, I'm just saying, like, what you were talking about. Sometimes it does get exposed that somebody did talk to a PR company and try to do that. And that was also just recently. Jane the virgin. I forgot his name.

[B]

Justin.

[C]

Yeah. So Justin Baldoni. I mean, that was. The whole ordeal is like, who is smearing who? And both sides are trying to prove who is the one leading.

[A]

They were both smearing each other.

[C]

At some point, it becomes that. But somebody is telling some truth. Somebody's telling some lies. So if both sides claiming the other side is telling the lie until they really find out the truth, I guess,

[A]

like, what's the point? Why were they. Who was. Who even started the smear campaign against each other?

[C]

For the ends with us people, the public opinion.

[A]

Yeah, well, opinion of what, though?

[C]

Whether you're a good person or not.

[A]

But what was starting that? You know, I mean, like, what are we to start smear campaigns against each other, you and me? It's like, what's the point? Like, we're on the same team. We're in the same movie.

[C]

Like, oh, but they had a falling out.

[B]

That's why it's, like, getting ahead of it. So they already had the falling out and already the claims of sexual harassment and stuff. So it was like, the getting ahead of it. The movie was coming out. They were about to go on the press tour. Blake was doing her. Her press tour separate from Justin Baldoni. Like, it was kind of, like, bubbling up. So the claims are that Justin Baldoni's PR firm were planning the smear campaign, which would involve, like, bots and stuff. Basically just, like, resurfacing old Blake Lively clips and interviews and having these accounts just post negative stuff. And it's like. I mean, you get that all the time. Like, with TikTok, you see so many TikToks of, like, someone in a negative light. Like, look at the brand flakes thing. Right? That's not a smear campaign. But I'm just saying, like, if you see so many posts of, like, pointing out the negative things about someone, you're like, oh, this person sucks.

[A]

That's kind of right. I see. So some. But.

[B]

And then they have no credibility. They have. They, like, their cachet is just, like, wiped away.

[A]

And that's why they're suing each Other because they're like, you smeared me so much that I can't do anything.

[B]

That Blake. Yeah.

[A]

Issuing Justin.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

He's not suing her back.

[B]

He filed the counter suit, but that was tossed out a couple months ago. Yeah.

[A]

It's like, at the end of the day, right, Like, I feel like everyone. It's like the Dakota and Taylor thing. Like, everyone's awful. And I feel like even if you're both right, or even if you're both awful, or even if you're both, like, doing smear campaigns or whatever, like, there's, like, a saying. I just looked it up the other day, or I just saw it the other day. Came up on my Instagram, my little, like, memes. People said it was AI. Someone's like, oh, those things are. Yeah. Anyways, it's like, if I, like, take your eye, and you're like, I'm take your eye too. It's like, well, then now we're both blind.

[B]

And, like, that's from the Bible. No.

[C]

Oh, eye for an eye.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Me quoting Jesus and not knowing. Oh, it was like a meme that was so gruesome. It was, like, literally someone, like, ripping out someone's eye. Like, I would take your eye, and then it's like, well, now we're both blind. What do we do? And it's like, now you're both blind, so I know you're both like, why don't we just keep our eyeballs in our heads? Unless it's, like, something bad. Obviously, the sexual harassment thing is. Yes. But then, like, to be like, let's. Let's do this and, like, ruin their reputation. It's like, well, if he already did that, his reputations are gonna be ruined. You don't think you need to, like, go above and beyond to ruin it more and, like, hire people? I see it with. I guess I don't need to say it, but I'm on a TikTok side where people are like, oh, there's a smear campaign I see it with. I guess I can say, I don't know. I don't know. I'm always, like, a little scared talk about these people. But do you remember Nicole Arbour?

[B]

I know that name sounds familiar.

[A]

She was Dear Fat People.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then she, like, went on that tour, and, like, everyone just, like, came for her. And, like, you suck. Because she's like, Dear Fat People, just exercise. Remember? She was like, the Millennial Cringe, I guess.

[B]

Yeah, okay. Yes, I do.

[A]

She was, like, on, like, Bunny and Jolly Rolls podcast and now she's like accusing them of doing a smear campaign, but she's like accusing them of like paying people to like talk badly about her. I don't know. Nicole seems like she might be on the wrong on this. I don't. I'm not really sure, but that's my whole TikTok. And it's like she's basically accusing them of paying people to do tiktoks about her and be like she's like discrediting or whatever. I don't know. But like, I guess that sounds like it could actually be a thing. Not with them, I'm not sure. I don't know.

[B]

But yeah, there's like packages. I mean, it is really crazy. There's packages when you do a smear campaign of like, you pay this amount, you can get this number of bots on these platforms. If you get this, the next level, the next tier, you can get more bots. And then you get more coverage on Reddit, on Twitter, and then you also get tick tock comments. Like they go by tears and then. Yeah, it's like a whole legal thing. I mean, that's why it gets into like the lawsuits and stuff. So I guess not everyone goes broke with that.

[A]

Then we're all broke again.

[B]

I know, it's messy. It's messy for sure.

[C]

That's the whole world of politics. I mean, that's how politics is run.

[A]

I know. After my one month announcement of Congress, all of a sudden I was like, all these Twitter accounts that I've never seen before just like coming for me. It was like literally a day of me announcing it and I was like, I was just kidding everybody. Like, just calm down. It is actually so it makes me scared for like Spencer. Not like in a weird way, but just like, damn, you really are gonna just like get harassed.

[B]

I think if you look into his politics, you'll realize that is the. Not the. A good one to endorse.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Let's just say Joe Rogan just endorsed him, so.

[A]

Really? Yeah, I would think it would. Yeah. It's shocking or not shocking.

[B]

I didn't know that much about, but I would just assume because like, they seem so like girly pop. So.

[A]

Yeah, super girly pop. That's so weird. Oh, okay. Well, no one has been talking about him, so I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, very odd. They're actually. There's a whole thing that came out yesterday too. I think the Hollywood Reporter published an article. Remember Alexa Nicholas?

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

She just filed the whole thing. I get about like she did her own investigating. She hired, like, a third party to investigate them. I'm paraphrasing very loosely because, like, I couldn't get to. In the weeds of this because it was really confusing. A lot of legal jargon. But her. Her claim was that, like, when she traced the smear campaign against her, mostly her husband, I guess her husband's, like, very. It's like a financier guy. So he had, like, a lot of connections and stuff. But it all. She claims that all came back to Scooter Braun, like, from back in, like, 2016 is when, like, he started doing the smear campaign kind of against. Allegedly, I think against other celebrities. I think she listed, like, Selena Gomez's name she found and stuff. But it's all alleged, obviously.

[A]

Oh, my God. But why is she in the middle of it? Because he didn't come for her.

[B]

I think she is claiming that there was a smear campaign against her and her husband. And then when they hired, like, a third party, they. And to track down, like, the origins at. At some point, Scooter Braun was kind of like, in the epicenter of it. Not necessarily against her specifically, but, like, proliferated. Proliferated down to.

[A]

It's the author in you.

[B]

I think I used author.

[A]

That was good. Oh, it sounds. That was smart. When you say words, I'm like, oh, that's okay. Awful. That sounds. This sounds like bad news.

[B]

I know. It's pretty crazy. And then all the articles with Alex Cooper, there's like, two sides of this that I think are interesting. There's one where, like, is it Alex Earl's team? She has a really good team. Is it her team kind of like planting the stories or. The other thing that I heard is like a. A pretty popular strategy is it's called the bridge and block PR strategy. Like, when you know bad stuff is going to come out, like, you redirect and shift. It's very like, look over there. Like, shifting it to something else. So before all this press started coming out, did Alex Cooper call out Alex Earl to make this the focus of all the headlines? Because she knew.

[A]

She knew it was coming. Maybe.

[B]

Possibly. It's like two scenarios, right? It's either, like, she knew something was coming, like, the bad press was coming. She already had the winter unwell, winter games, like, controversy, and she knew that she was going to get more bad press. So does she, like, yeah. Want to get ahead of it by making this the big talk of the town, or is Alex Earl's team trying to, like, get back at her and plant these, like, stories.

[A]

Where do you fall?

[B]

God, I honestly don't know. I think it. Honestly, it could go either way. Truly, it could. To me, I think I'm a little jaded because I've, like, been in the production and like, you know, interview business for so long that the claims that are coming out, these, like, exposes about unwell, about just like a hostile work environment that Alex's husband, Matt Kaplan, would like, allegedly yell and berate the crew or staff members. I guess the yelling and berating, that definitely crosses a line. But everything else I've heard about the girls come up with about Alex Cooper, like, oh, she just, she doesn't really care about me. She just cares about money, blah, blah, blah. Like, all of that just seems like this is kind of the industry. I'm not saying it's good. I'm like, it's, it's just the way it is. Unfortunately, like, it's very much like your feelings don't really matter that much. It's like whatever's best for the company. What's going to make this company richer and make profit. So I'm kind of used to that and desensitized to that. I guess it depends how. If it's true. It depends how nasty Matt Kaplan was. Yeah.

[A]

Recordings coming out about it.

[B]

Yeah. It's very interesting, though. And then it's weird, though, because then you have people coming out, be like, I work with Alex Cooper. And like, she was always so nice, never had any problems with her employees. Yeah. Jonah, who was one of your backup dancers.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Went on tour with Alex Cooper.

[A]

What is she dancers?

[B]

Remember when she was doing the podcast?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

[B]

She had a little dance segment. Yeah. And he would like. I guess there was like a sexy segment where he would, like take her knee high, socks off with his teeth

[A]

going down.

[B]

The caller daddy tour. But he, he made a tick tock saying, like, I was on tour with her for months and I spent a lot of time with her. And I'm not gonna, you know, say that other people's experience is wrong, but all I can say is my experience with her was like, she's always very kind, very professional.

[A]

Yeah, I love that.

[B]

I do love that.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like it could be said about anybody, like, and people. I've worked with people. And I mean, some. Half the people will probably be like, well, I would say 95 of people are probably like, Trisha's amazing. But then, you know, there's probably like a 10 out there. That's like. She's the worst. I don't know. Especially my hangry days, you know? So I don't. I think it's just. Yeah, it's like, what day you catch her on? I don't know. I mean, she seemed nice in the one hour I talked with her before and after. But yeah, dealing with employees is so different too. Also too when it's like a husband and wife, so they both have unwell and he's like, involved for some reason. I thought he was like a movie producer or something. I thought he was, like, not in the process.

[B]

I think this is his main business. Business now is unwell. And I forget who was saying this. Maybe it was spillshest or something. Someone that went into, like, the unwell office. Like, you would think Alex Cooper would have the big, like, corner office because she's the CEO, but actually, like, Matt Kaplan is one that has the biggest office. Who said.

[A]

Who put that out there? Or Chris or Spill Sesh?

[B]

I think Spill Sesh did.

[A]

Who saw it? Like, who took the picture? Who posted it?

[B]

I guess someone who just visited the unwell office. Like, Alex's office is more out in the open with everybody else and his is, like, in the corner. The big executive office.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So he's, you know, pretty powerful.

[A]

I mean, I would. Even if he was the big one in charge, I still would be like, I'm in that corner office because I'm the face. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm the one dealing with all this. Like, no one really, really cares. Even those, like, hit piece articles. I mean, I really don't know.

[B]

Yeah, T. Because in the hippies articles, they're using Alex Cooper's image, you know,

[A]

like, give me that big corner office because I'm the one going to take all this heat. Is the unwell games done?

[B]

I think they dropped, like, all the episodes on YouTube, I believe. And I heard people on Tick Tock reviewing it and saying that it was entertaining, but I just, like, it was too messy for even me to even dip my toe in. I'm like, I'll watch something else, you know, Like, I'm good. I'm good on that front.

[A]

Yeah, same. I heard More Wives is shooting again, but Dakota is not a part of it.

[B]

Yeah, T, this literally just came out today from tmz. See that Mormon Wives is back in production. Originally there was reporting that Taylor was not going to be. Taylor and Dakota were not going to be involved in this season. People magazine wrote that. I know. I literally just said they had to check a lot of sources. Sometimes they're so wrong. Sometimes they're still wrong.

[A]

They went a little too early.

[B]

Yes. And because maybe that was the case at one point, then it switched, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then Taylor commented on Instagram from People, and she was like, that's not what I heard. And then TMZ reported that she will be involved later down the line, but Dakota still will not.

[A]

I heard my. The one I heard was she was given the option to return and declined, is what I heard.

[B]

Oh, I don't know how.

[A]

Which one is.

[B]

Yeah. The most up to date in the statement from. I don't know if it's from Hulu or her camp. Let me see. Actually, if I do know, there was a statement that she is going to be focusing on her family and healing. Oh, yeah. Here's the direction. Statement. Her priority right now is her mental health and her family. She wants to return eventually when she's ready. And that was a source to the show itself. Secret Lies in Mormon Wife.

[A]

So it does sound like she was

[B]

given the option and probably wants to come later down the line. I'm sure she'll, like, appear at some point.

[A]

I like that. I respect that. I feel like, okay, they're gonna talk about it. So it's like, I would want to be part of that narrative. But obviously, like, yeah, I think when people, like, take a step back and we visually see you take a step back, it's like, oh, okay. Like, that's. You know, when people just come back right away, you're like, seems like a little much. You know what I mean? But I think it's good also for her, but also for, like, the public to be like, okay, she's, like, actually taking a step back. I love that they said Dakota was not invited back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As he should. He's awful. He is awful. Should not be. Taylor was, like an originator on the show. Her spark in season one obviously was, like, so such a good light. Yeah. There seems to be way more to it. The more you see all this stuff about her and him and. I don't know, something about him really does give me the egg. The more I see, I'm like, I mean, I always thought he was, but everything about him, I'm like, yeah.

[B]

And I think they were just waiting until the charges were dropped against Taylor from the most recent event, which was, I think, February.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they also have a Hulu reality event today. So there's also the theory that they're going to be filming at this Hulu event today. So that's why they had to issue the statement today, because they're going to see the girls filming and then every cat's going to be out of the bag. Yeah.

[A]

Where's the event? Is it in, like, Malibu? Remember they do that fancy one, like, outside the beach?

[B]

They did that last year. It's again this year.

[A]

How do we get to that?

[B]

That's dry.

[A]

Yes. It work. It was like a noble Malibu last time. And everyone was there for the Hulu. What do they call, like, announce or something up next? I don't know. Something like that.

[B]

Yeah, it has some, like, reality name. Hulu's Get Real House events.

[A]

Oh, damn. I want to be there.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Get invited to that. Are we not part of the Hulu world? I guess not.

[B]

I. I guess we honestly just got up to date like three weeks ago, so I don't blame Hulu.

[A]

Yeah, we love Hulu. Wish I was at that event. I would go. I would go to that event. That's why when I think of us going to an event together, because I really want to, and I definitely want to do, like, the whole stylist video for an event. I see us going to, like, a day event where it's something like that where we can get some tea, where it's like this Hulu, like, up next thing you know, I think that'd be like.

[B]

And then we're really in the mix of it because, yeah, I feel like the Kardashians would be there. It'd be us with this Mormon wives. Like, we'd be really with all the girls.

[A]

That'd be so fun because I think, like, Ezra was there last year. Like, I remember, like, everybody was there.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Robert Irwin.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

That's when they announced him, I think for Dancing with the Stars, because they announced him so early.

[A]

I wonder if they're announcing anyone today.

[B]

More Mormon wives, I'm sure.

[A]

Yeah. Sounds like Jesse was practicing with Sasha. I had heard they had asked Taylor to, like, coincide with the Bachelor's. I also heard that, like, probably just a rumor, but that they were also, like, gonna release the Bachelor season.

[B]

Oh, this actually is something that could happen. Now. This is source reporting. I don't know who the sources are, obviously, but there is source reporting that they are still TBD on releasing it again when they. When they, quote, unquote, canceled it. They never said they cancel themselves. Like, ABC never said cancel. They just said they weren't going to air it. Like postponed now that the charges dropped. It's like looking Better. And also they've been rolling out the bachelors that were on her season on that bachelor podcast, the official one or whatever. So they've been doing interviews. Yeah. So. And, and the hosts of the Bachelor. I forget their. That guy's name.

[A]

Jesse Palmer.

[B]

Yes. He's also been hinting that it still might see the light of day. So there is a little bit of hope.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You watch a little bit of hope. I. I fear I would be seated.

[A]

I feel, I know. I feel like everybody would be too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I guess since the charges dropped. Now we see her bruises and stuff. Like, geez. Like this whole thing's kind of just like a situation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not as like one sided. I mean, I just hope they are not getting back together. Like I. You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, I just feel like I pray. So I guess like we haven't seen fully how much Taylor's girl, it sounds like she's really on the journey of, of healing. She is posting a lot of AI photos of Jesus, which I don't know about that, but you know, we're starting somewhere. We're. We're starting somewhere on the ceiling.

[A]

I do see a lot of Bible pages.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's with her girls, Jesse and Demi.

[A]

She says those two had her back.

[B]

Those two are the ones she's closest with.

[A]

Yeah, I like to see it.

[B]

Very interesting dynamics going on.

[A]

Man. We missed out on the Hulu. Gotta find out where they're at.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I want to see the tea because Hulu does seem fun. It kind of seems camp.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like Disney.

[B]

And it's really weird because they have just a little bit of everything I fear. Like they have the shenanigans from Mormon wives and Kardashians and everything. But then they also keep it classy with, you know, a scripted drama. Like it's what?

[A]

Scripted drama on Hulu.

[B]

Oh my God, why am I forgetting her name? Is it High Wired? It's not a drama, but I think it's like a dramedy.

[A]

The.

[B]

The. She's from hacks. I'm forgetting her name.

[A]

High potential.

[B]

High potential. Yes.

[A]

Caitlin Olsen. Yes. Love her. I do love that one. She always has blue nails on that show. And it always comes up after we were watching. You know, I'm a Shifting Gears girl. So every time we watch Shifting Gears. Does anyone else watch that?

[B]

Make some noise in the comments. Everybody. If you're watching Shifting Gears.

[A]

When I did a general meeting with Hulu, I remember going in there and they, you know, they're like, yeah, we do Dancing with the stars and all of stuff. I was like, wow, so cool. And then they were, like, giving me, like, a little tour, and they're, like, shifting gears. Films down the. I'm like, I'm such a fan. They're like, you are? Love the show. It's on their third season. It's kind of crushing, but after that comes hypnotic. And I really do love that show. You watch it? Is that Hulu original?

[B]

Yeah, I believe so. No, I'm not watching it. But I do think it's on my list of things to watch, though, because I really do like Caitlin Olsen.

[A]

They've been on that show Arrested Development, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For, like, 20 years.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

It's still going?

[B]

It's still going.

[A]

Yes. They're still filming. She, like, met her husband. They have teenage sons. Like, everything on that show.

[B]

That's wild.

[A]

Fifteen years. Was. Is that the one? Oh, no. Is it wrestle development or Always Sunny?

[C]

Always Sunny.

[A]

That's the one she's in.

[C]

That's still filming.

[A]

The daughter from Hacks is in.

[C]

Yeah, that's still going on.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Always just saying the wrong thing.

[B]

I just believe you.

[A]

Kind of the same thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Arrested Development seems like an Always Sunny. Always Sunny, I think, is still filming, right? Yeah, that's with Dan DeVito.

[C]

Yeah. Right.

[A]

Like, I love a cast that just doesn't want to end the show. You know what I mean?

[B]

Let's keep it going.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I always think. I'm always working. Everybody leave the show. I'm like, no, like, keep going forever

[B]

and keep that paychecks coming in always.

[A]

Yeah, it's so crazy when people like, let's move on to other things. It's like, you can still move on other things.

[C]

Like Romeo, usually they don't enjoy. They move on, but they seem to enjoy it. You know, it's like, there's nothing better than. It's like a band being on tour. They just enjoy making records. Going on tour.

[A]

Us here at Jazz Trish. We're gonna go forever. Forever and ever. Cause it's so much fun. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. If it's like a fun. But she's doing three shows. Caitlin's doing Hacks High potential, where she stars in High potential.

[B]

And Always Sunny. Always honey. Yeah, I guess if you can make it work. And Hax is over and this is. Yeah.

[C]

So, like, for her, hacks is a small gig because it's fast and you move on.

[A]

Yum. Interesting.

[B]

A show that I'm watching right now, surprisingly. Surprisingly on Apple tv. I don't know.

[A]

Maybe watches it.

[B]

Margot's got money troubles. You guys get into it. It is so good.

[A]

Who's in it?

[C]

It's another one, right?

[B]

It's new. Elle Fanning's in it. Michelle Pfeiffer, Nick Offerman.

[A]

Love him.

[C]

Yeah, I saw reviews that it's coming, and it's really. People are excited about it.

[A]

Is it on? Oh, it's on.

[B]

Yeah, it's here. Three episodes. No, four episodes now so far.

[A]

What's the synopsis? General?

[B]

I don't know. Okay, the synopsis, you guys. You might not be gagging, but I promise an execution is actually as good. It is a young girl in college, Elle Fanning, who gets knocked up by her English teacher, who, it turns out, has a family and two kids. And she signs, like, she ends up having to sign an NDA that she won't expose him and go after him for money in order to get a trust fund for her baby. But she needs money because she can't work.

[A]

How's she gonna live?

[B]

Exactly. So she starts an of. And. Okay, she starts it as like a. A peen rater. Like, she critiques peens.

[A]

And then you censor yourself. You always say that.

[B]

I think it's meanly rusty.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

And, yeah, it's like. It's a comedy, but it's heartfelt. And the performances. Damn. Everyone be acting. Everyone is acting. They're putting their whole into their acting performances. Elle Fanning, baby, Emmy. I think you're getting Emmy now. I'm hoping it's limited series so it doesn't go against. Because it's comedy. So she would go against hacks, I

[A]

think could go against White Lotus. It's like limited series, though.

[B]

I don't think it'd be out in time. At least. White Lotus.

[A]

Oh, I see. I see.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So, Elle Fanning, baby, I'll be running an Emmy campaign. She's amazing in it. It's so funny. Nicole Kidman randomly makes an appearance.

[A]

Who's Michelle Pfeiffer in it? Like who?

[B]

She's her mom. She's her mom who turns to the church just because she wants a husband. And it's like. It's a key. She's a key.

[A]

Who's the men in it?

[B]

Nick Offerman is.

[A]

Oh, love.

[B]

Her estranged dad.

[A]

So who's the only guy? Or that or the guy she has a baby with? He's not involved.

[B]

He's in the first episode.

[A]

No one famous.

[B]

The little. No, no. Just.

[A]

Just a guy that's like Nick Offerman. Or something. I was like, I just saw my Amy Plover podcast. I'm really trying to. My press tour. I'm. My number one is to be on Amy by means. She gets, like, all the biggest people. Like, I'm Plaza maybe.

[B]

Maybe there'll be a lull by then. She's just like, damn.

[C]

When you have a book. When you have a book. I don't know.

[A]

But she has, like, all the stars, just everyone from Parks and Rec. And maybe she is. If she has kids, maybe. Look at me. And I was talking about we did not love Yesterday. And Tana was telling me how, like, she got to me. Adam Sandler and the full story will be on there. But it basically was like, Sadie's like, oh, I want you to meet my dad. And I was like, that's so, so crazy. So if Amy Poehler has kids and you guys want me on the podcast, like, let her know, because I love it so much. And I love. I didn't know anything about Nick Offerman. The reason I know is because of that podcast. And I did, like, a deep. I guess he was in the Last of Us. What's the one?

[B]

Yes. He was in the gay episode of

[A]

the Last of Us.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

One episode with Bartlett Murray, who I also really love.

[C]

I watch. I ended up watching.

[A]

By yourself. You always watch. You watch all those weird ones by yourself. Every time I come in, I'm like, there's some weird.

[C]

But there is another show. Because when that show came out, there was a bunch of shows people were excited about. We watched Big Mistakes.

[A]

We did. What's Big Mistakes?

[C]

Daniel Levy.

[B]

Oh,

[C]

he wrote it with Rachel.

[A]

I really wanted to like it. Did you watch it?

[B]

No.

[C]

Well, we just started. We just started. People love. No, people love the show.

[A]

I know. I want to love it. Like, I love her son. I love him. Like, I always say, you remind me of him. Well, the. The Schitt's Creek version. Not saying he's not Ozempic, but he is giving Olympic. His face is so, like, gone. In a good way. Right? Everyone likes to be skinny these days. I don't know. But he looks so different when he was on and he wasn't. He definitely wasn't fat in Schitt's Creek. So when I said you look like him, he was also very thin. And Schitt's Creek, too. But I was just like, it gets younger, too. Maybe when you get older, you get older. He's like a priest, but a gay priest in Big Mistakes. It's very. Or preacher, I guess. And he's gay. And I don't. I like the idea. I don't love it, though. I wish I would loved it. I don't know.

[C]

I mean, it's developing, it's going somewhere. But if you love him, you like the writing. It's very war heavy. You know, you're just talking a lot and fast and there's a certain pace to it.

[A]

I mean, I can keep up with fast talking.

[C]

No, not for you. I'm just saying to the audience, what is the kind of a show.

[B]

Almost sick Guinness.

[C]

But because a lot of shows are designed to be a secondary screen, they're like very easy and slow so you can be on your phone and watch a show. But this show is not one of those.

[B]

This show is like, oh.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I agree. Yeah. Because. Yeah, maybe I missed. I don't know. I feel like I was like, tuned in. Because also the lady that's in everything, she was. She was. Was she in Big Bang Theory? I think she's Sheldon's mom in Big Bang Theory. She's in everything. She was in Roseanne.

[C]

She's his mom.

[A]

Yeah, she's. And I love, like, I love the cast. I feel like everyone in the cast is like, so good. I don't know what's missing for me in that one.

[C]

But once we finish that, we'll try and watch this show.

[B]

It's good. There's some nudity, though, so be warned.

[A]

I suppose I guess we will be watching that show.

[B]

Her jugs out.

[A]

Oh, okay. I. I do have a problem with nudity. The older I get. I do feel uncomfy, but I think it's just age or something. I don't know. Or maybe because I have kids, there is something so weird. You know, I used to love, like, anything grunchy or even just anything like, sexual. I guess, like, Bridgerton doesn't show nudity too much, but anytime we see, like, boobs on a screen, I'm always just like, turn it off, turn it off. I don't know why. I don't know what it is. It should be normal. I mean, the human body's normal. You know, I'm all about, like, I wish everyone could go topless. But now when I see people topless, I'm very much like, I.

[C]

Also, we end up watching it when the kids are napping. So it's like in the middle of the day. Yeah, it's not like we watch it at night. Big jugs in the middle. It's like, you know, you watch the movie and then suddenly Somebody's outside, you know, doing something, and you're like, right.

[A]

We have, like, people doing construction where they, like, walk in or like.

[C]

No, you see through the windows, you see the tv.

[A]

Yeah, they're right.

[C]

It's funny.

[A]

That was very much like, righteous gemstones. Like, I, like, loved it. But, oh, my God, the amount of peen that would be shown, I'm like, turn it off, turn it off. Like, it's so. I don't know. There's something that makes me, like, uncomfy about it, but I don't know. But anyways, the house, was it. The handmade housemaid the house made that. I like that. Nudity is good. I think it's, like, mild. It's moderate.

[B]

Yeah. And I guess it was. You saw in the theater or no, you saw.

[A]

It's hot here. Oh, God, if I saw it in theater, I would. I would. I would die. I would go, oh.

[B]

I thought it'd be easier because it's, like, dark and.

[A]

Oh, no, the opposite. I'd be like, what are people doing in the dark? Like, let me leave. I don't know. I don't know. I get. It's a thing. I think with age, you just become a prude. So enjoy that wild adolescence just running free. It's great when you're young and then now you're old and you have kids and you're just like, oh, my gosh, I can't be seen. Which is crazy. And honestly, I say that I hate that too, because I do hate that, like, America is conditioned to be like, oh, my God, nudity is sexual, and we should be ashamed and embarrassed by it. I hate that so much that that's what I'm conditioned for now. Because it is just a body. Everyone has a body. But damn, they really sexualized everything. And now I'm uncomfy because of it. I hate it. I hate it. But don't be ashamed of your body.

[B]

Well, speaking of big boobs on screens, Sydney Sweeney's cameo in the Devil Wears Prada, too, was cuts. And that was a big headline.

[A]

That's real news.

[B]

It is real news. She had a quick cameo playing herself. Basically, the scene. It was going to be like a little montage of celebrities in, I guess, like, coming in and out of the magazine. They were going to be, like, dressed fiercely and. But that whole scene ended up being cut.

[A]

Oh, the whole scene.

[B]

So not just her. Yeah, yeah. The headline is like a key because everyone, you know, everyone's got it out for Ms. Sweeney is kind of funny. Like, damn, they wanted nothing to do with her. But it kind of happens all the time. So when you actually, like, read the article, it does kind of lose some of the. The humor and allure. But she was like, photographed on set filming it, and I think people were like, expecting to see her. So when she wasn't in the. In the film at all, it became

[A]

like, why would they cut. You said there was a celebrity sweater. Celebrities were in there, dude.

[B]

They didn't say who else was.

[A]

Why would they cut a scene like that? That's so weird. Like, if you have cameos like that.

[B]

They said it just didn't really make sense for, like, the story. Like, it was a creative decision to nix the whole thing all together.

[A]

Well, why did you write it?

[B]

Well, I guess sometimes on paper you think it's good, but then when you see it in the movie, you're like, oh, it's not giving.

[A]

It sounds like it fits in. I mean, the world is Vogue and Met Gala. Like, how does it not fit in Celebrities, like, what do you mean? City's Mooney's at the Miguel every year with Anna Wintour. Like, I don't understand. Like, that doesn't make any sense to me.

[B]

Oh, that's so funny. I mean, it happened obviously, like Simone, Ashley. Thank God she made the devil brought a 2 cut. Thank God. She has a pretty big character arc as well. Thank God. And she's doing the junket with. With Caleb here on.

[A]

Yes, they're doing it together.

[B]

Yes. So they're really putting them out there. So I guess they. They play the new assistants, I believe, and they have pretty big roles. So they're not just like little cameos.

[A]

Who's the assistants?

[B]

Caleb and Ashley. Yeah.

[A]

That's okay. I love that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's kind of crazy though, right? The only thing I remember, and for the record, I don't love, like, I don't love it. And the reason I don't love it is because they were calling Anne Hathaway fat at it. So that's why. But. And I'm not even shading at all, obviously. Like, obviously Caleb, like, talks about being bigger. Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, also, it's okay for Amanda B.

[B]

With me. Anne Hathaway is still giving. She's standing strong in the 2020 body positivity movement that has vanished in 2026. But she. Even in the movie, like, her and Meryl and all the fashion sequences they wanted, like, body diversity in, like on the Runway.

[A]

In the new movie.

[B]

In the new movie. Yeah. So now they're really pushing. They're like the media landscape has changed. And that's kind of the plot of the movie too is about like how the magic magazines are having to adapt to the new media. Because when the first one came out, there was no iPhone, so everything has changed.

[A]

When did the first one come out?

[B]

Think about like 2000. It was 20 years ago. 2006.

[A]

So okay, so the plot is like they have to adapt. Is she like pushing against it like I don't want fatties in this magazine or is she just like.

[B]

It's kind of just. And it's.

[A]

It just exists?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's like they need to explain.

[B]

They didn't explain why there's fatties on the Runway.

[A]

Yes. What do you mean? We just. If you're watching them back to back and you're just like, wow, you're fat like that.

[B]

I think they will established has been 20 years

[A]

and Miranda Priestley didn't age or what? She's the exact same age as she was 20 years ago.

[B]

No, the time jump is like a big part of it. Cuz now an Hathaway's character, she's like the big girl in charge of like a PR company and everyone else is trying to like catch up to her. Like she's like seceded. Meryl Streep's character, like she's more influential and powerful than her now. Cuz she's kind of washed, but exactly the same. And then Gaga and Hathaway looks younger, but that's. We're ignoring that. We're ignoring the characters. The characters are gonna be. Yes. 20 years old.

[A]

I mean, I love it, I love it, I love it. You know, we're gonna allow for change in growth. I was gonna condemn it. I was like, no, don't try and walk back your fat bob.

[B]

2006, a very different time, mama.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

Yeah. They were just going along, riding to the time. That's all you can do.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

By the way, I love Caleb. I do love him on the red carpets. I love him. I think he's very well spoken. He doesn't seem like a star. He said he was 11 when the first one came out. I just watched an interview with him today. 11. He's like, I was 11. I was a closeted gay boy in Missouri and yeah.

[B]

Oh, wow. Yeah. 20 years ago is crazy.

[A]

How old were you? 30. You were 13?

[B]

Yeah, I was 12 or 13 when it came out.

[A]

How old was I 10 years ago.

[B]

20 years ago.

[A]

Oh, 20 years. Oh my God. I was 18.

[B]

Isn't that crazy.

[A]

Oh, my God. Like, an adult in California is doing drugs already. Like, that's great. That's why I missed the first movie. Yeah. Mike in the Ditch. You know the story.

[B]

Pickup duck somewhere.

[A]

Yeah. Literally, one call her daddy. Get the kidnapping story.

[B]

Crazy. Yeah.

[A]

I think that's maybe why I didn't. I didn't miss out on that, because I remember. I, like, I missed that whole area.

[B]

Darien hates the Devil Wears Prada, though, if that's any consolation.

[A]

I do too. And I hate to say that, because it's such a. I really hate it. I hated everything about it.

[B]

I haven't gone back and watched in a long time. I remember watching it with my mom. I don't know if we went to the theater, but we definitely own the dvd. And that DVD was getting put to use. Like, we watched it a few times, so I was seated for it at some point. But I haven't watched it in at least, like, 15 years.

[A]

So you don't know how it holds up. We watched it recently. We watched it maybe, like, four or five years ago, and I was like, this is awful.

[B]

I'm intrigued to see how the devil was Prada 2 goes. They kind of lost me a little bit because I feel like we lost the essence of the film because they did a collaboration with the Old Navy. No shade to Gap Inc. Like, big fan. But Devil Wears Prada, My Old Navy is crazy. And it's like, white T shirts with, like, text on it. And it's, like, not giving fashion. It's not giving fierce.

[A]

It's not giving couture.

[B]

It's not giving couture. It's giving couture. Like, it's gonna be in landfills. That's kind of the vibe I got, like, a tote bag with, like, that is all. I'm like, girl. What?

[C]

That's a little.

[B]

I know. No offense. If you live for it, if you're gagging for it, more power to you. Me, personally, I was gagging the wrong way.

[A]

I was seated for it.

[B]

I'm like, this kind of goes against the whole vibe of the movie.

[A]

Yeah, I agree on that point. I think they're actually gonna get me to go to the theater because I actually do. Like, now that they have body positivity. Now that I know that. Yeah, okay. I like that a lot.

[B]

And then. And out the way was really talked about in the. At the premiere that she was like, no. Like, we really, like, push for that. Like, we wanted it to adapt to where the landscape is now. It's like, that's fierce. And I love that. Again, when we're really losing. We're losing the body positivity movement, you know, it's vanished that she's holding, like, everybody else down.

[A]

Everyone is so. They really are so granted and have

[B]

the way it looks. Amazing. She's trying.

[A]

I do love a skinny girl for the body positivity movement. You know, skinny people want to keep some fat people fat. They're like, who needs. Because everyone's just getting skinny. You just gotta get skinnier and skinnier. Because now who's like, who? Yeah, that's too hard.

[B]

And Caleb did say Anne Hathaway was a key on set too. Like, yeah. And she would, like, be that she would. He would go up to and be like, anne, how are you doing everything? And she would always have a little joke for everything. Like, she was a key.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She lives for the gays, so I'll give it to Anne.

[A]

I feel like you guys are doing an anti smear campaign. The opposite.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What is it? What's the opposite of a smear campaign?

[B]

I guess just the regular old schmegler PR campaign, baby.

[A]

Yeah. You're trying to bring her back.

[B]

Yeah. Annie, I got you, girl.

[A]

I like, I do like. I did hear Anna Hathaway news. I do like. I think I'm gonna go back on that train. I was never on the Hathaway trip. Maybe I'll get on it. I saw the book she bought the rights to about the influencer trad wife. Did you see that?

[B]

I did see that in passing.

[A]

Yeah. So she bought rights to this. I guess it's a book. And I love the concept of this. It's like, literally, like an influencer tradwife. Because. Right. The whole thing now is like the Nara Smiths of it all. And obviously other people like Ballerini farms, who, like, take it more extreme and have, like, 20 kids and they're like, on a farm and they give up their dreams to do this life and they take care of your man and bake everything and whatever. Which is like, I'm not against that. Whatever. But in this book that she is adapting into a movie is like, she gets transported back to, like, the 1800s and has to actually be that trad wife. And obviously, like, the influencer trad wife probably would not survive as a trad wife in the 1800s.

[B]

That was Gaggy.

[A]

I like that. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, does she get back with, like, a cell phone? Is she, like an influencer in that era? Like, that's Kind of like. Yeah, I'm really excited.

[B]

I'm pretty seated for that. Ironically was at the Devil Wears product premiere, too.

[A]

So maybe she has some involvement in that. Maybe she'll be one of. You know how, like, Stepford Wives there was, like, all the separate wives. Maybe the trad wives will be Nar Smith. Is she in the movie?

[B]

I don't think so. I think they had a lot of influencers, though. At the Devil wears Prada 2 premiere, it was everyone who was, like, a model with some followers was there. It was big.

[A]

New York.

[B]

They went all out. Yeah. In New York work.

[A]

She's beautiful. Maybe she has a cameo in it.

[B]

Maybe because I.

[A]

Why would you be there?

[B]

T. But they did have, like, a lot of influencers. But, I mean, they have so many fashion show sequences, and it wouldn't make sense to see Nara and Lucky.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Smith, like, either walking the Runway or, like, in the fashion show somewhere seated and watching it.

[A]

That'd be fun to see.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That's, like, weird when. To the extent we saw. I saw Justin McCartney at the after party, and I was like, oh, it's so random. Just Martin is here. And then, like, I was like, who is that?

[B]

Darian said that, too.

[A]

Darian. At least Darian is, like, this generation that should know, I guess.

[B]

Not too young to know about Jesse McCartney, really.

[A]

I feel like he's kind of a cultural icon, though. I feel like he goes spans the decades.

[B]

Yeah, he. I guess Darian wasn't in america When Jesse McCartney also was, like, popular.

[A]

So was he not international?

[B]

I don't know if he was big in Costa Rica. Might have to do a little. Might have to check the demographic, but how about you?

[A]

Do you know if he's international?

[C]

I don't know. I mean, I. I would remember songs, but not a person.

[A]

I don't want another pretty face I don't want just anyone to hold?

[B]

I don't want my love to go to waste?

[A]

I want you and your beautiful soul? You're the one I want to chase? You're the one I want to hold? I don't want it go to waste? I want you and your beautiful soul.

[C]

No.

[B]

Oh, that song got me. I was like, oh, he only cares about my soul, baby.

[A]

So it is so good. Even when they did it and everyone was singing in the episode, I was like, singing. It's timeless. It's so good.

[C]

I thought it was like, Ed Sheering or something.

[A]

Oh, you thought it was Ed Sheeran,

[C]

the song you were just singing. Like, if I had to guess.

[A]

Oh, okay. I thought you went. You saw Hacks. You thought.

[B]

I thought it was actually okay. Sheeran cameo.

[A]

Ed Sheeran. Okay. See the trailer for Meet the Fockers or Focker in Law.

[B]

I'm excited. I thought Ariana was going to have a small role, but it looks like she's kind of one of the main characters.

[A]

Poster.

[B]

Yeah, she's on the poster. She's like lead credit. So I'm excited. I didn't really care about the other movies. I only watched the first one, like, as a kid with my parents.

[A]

People loved me. The parents, they live for that. My brother bought that on dvd. Like, every boy was like, this is such a funny movie. Yeah, I guess it was the time. I haven't watched it since. Ben still only stands by the first two. He said. He said he stands by those. And the little he said, sounds like a bad concept for a movie.

[B]

I'm excited for Ariana.

[A]

People are divided that she looks just like Ariana.

[B]

I've seen a lot of tick tocks of this too. And I'm kind of like, ladies, let's wait until we actually see the film. Because when I see Jacob Elordi in any old project besides Frankenstein where he literally had like a suit of skin on, I do be seeing when I saw Wuthering Heights, did see Jacob point.

[A]

Like, that's a good point, right? I guess, because he. Right. I think Ariana has such a distinct look with her hair and her brows and her skin. I feel like it makes her look like a character because she's more character as opposed to maybe a Jacob Elordi or even a Margot Robbie who always looks the same. They kind of just look like a person. Not to say she doesn't look like a person, but you know what I mean? Like, she has a more character.

[B]

Y. I think.

[A]

I don't know. I'm here for it. I love Ariana.

[B]

I. I see the argument. I think she gets it and it's like, maybe. Did Lady Gaga get it? Definitely not in A Star Is Born, but maybe later on. But I feel like you know them differently, so it's kind of like you, I guess. Right. Like, I feel like when people see you in anything, like, granted the character that you're playing, but I feel like even if you were playing, you know, the Focker in Law, I would be like, oh, it looks like Trisha.

[A]

Well, we would be playing Trisha Paytas, the influencer in that. Like, oh, here's my girlfriend. She's been an influencer for 20, 20 years. You eat on camera. Yeah, that's what I do, sir. Like, I would just be playing myself. But Ariana, when she's, like, on snl and she does, like, the one where she had Bow and Yang, and she was like, the mom that was homophobic, and she had the girl, like, you didn't see Ariana. So I kind of, like, get it. Maybe they should have done, like, a little bit different because everyone's like, oh, her voice. Because her voice sounds different. She's not doing the, like, Glinda voice anymore. So it's like, it's almost there also.

[C]

What are they like, I'm looking at the poster. So, like, is Robert De Niro. Doesn't look like Robert De Niro. Ben Stiller.

[A]

Well, that was, like, argument.

[C]

They literally.

[A]

But I guess what I was saying is, like.

[C]

And she's so funny, like, in Wicked. She's such a great comedic actor. I think, like, she's gonna be great.

[B]

No, I have seen a lot of people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Say that, and I. I kind of get the argument. I think it's like, people also pointed out, like, her makeup is the same in real life as it is in the movie as the character.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I could see something like that, too. But I'm like, let's just wait until we see the film before, you know, we really jump on and, you know, make some commentary. Because the film I thought was going to be good was Michael. I was. I just assumed it was going to be good because Michael Jackson mov. Yeah.

[A]

Did you watch it?

[B]

I didn't watch it, and I didn't really plan to watch it, to be honest. I just don't really like a biopic like that. Like, I don't really get you and

[A]

Ali and AJ when they're like, I don't like a biopic. I'm like, that's my favorite genre.

[B]

I love you live.

[A]

Even if I have no idea what. Who it's about. Like, I'm gonna watch a biopic.

[B]

You do live for it. I love them.

[A]

I love a real story.

[B]

Yeah. I was just, like, gonna let people have their fun in passing, you know, from. From over here, respectfully. And I just assumed it was going to be good because it's a biopic. And then it was kind of. I thought it was pretty hyped up.

[A]

Yeah. His nephew's playing him.

[B]

Yeah. Jafar Jackson is playing him. I heard he was amazing in it. But, yeah, it's. So far, it's sitting, like, under 30% on rotten tomatoes, and the reviews have not been super favorable.

[A]

What are they saying? What are the reviews saying?

[B]

I think the biggest criticism is, okay, positive. First, Jafar Jackson. Everyone's saying he's amazing in it. Saying it's not even like a nepotism thing. Like, he's just like that good where he like loses like when you watch him, like, you do think it's Michael Jackson because the way that Jafar Jackson, like studied the performances and the choreography and the musicality and the voice, he like even slept in Michael Jackson's childhood bedroom to like really immerse himself in the vibes. So he really, he was dedicated. He went all the way in.

[A]

That's like 95% of the movie is like that. Then that's good. What's the problem?

[B]

Well, the problem, I think it comes to like, the writing is kind of what it seems. Overall, the overall consensus is because it's, you know, the Jackson estate was involved in the production of it. That is kind of like a very sanitized, PR friendly, surface level view of Michael Jackson and his childhood. Like, it kind of hints at things. Like the beginning of the film opens up with him reading Peter Pan to like, hint that is like Arrested Development and stuff.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But it doesn't really get in to the. The deeper levels of Michael Jackson. It doesn't touch at all on like all the allegations and any of that stuff as well. Yeah, and at one point they were gonna include that. Not fully either. Kind of like touch on it to show the audience that, yes, it's kind of addressed. But then that ended up being scrapped too. So none of that is even in the movie as of right now because there is a part two that's in pre production. But I guess we'll see how same producers and everything.

[A]

Because they've done movies on Michael's life, they've done biopics where they show that stuff. So it's like, I mean, there's already pictures out there like that. It's just like all the Elvis movies, I mean, some show them in a great light. Some like, obviously you watch Baz Luhrmann versus Sophia Coppola's like Priscilla versus Elvis. It's like two different Elvis's. Like, which one is I? That's the problem with a biopic is like. And also when you're dad, you really don't get to say Ellen, John did it. Right. He had a living biopic. He's like, I'm gonna be on set people now.

[B]

And I think because the family was pretty involved, minus Janet and I think one other Jackson wasn't involved, but I know like Michael's mom was involved and like loved the movie. Like all the rest of the family really loved it and said Jafar was amazing. But maybe, maybe the problem was they were just like too involved where they wouldn't like even if like you don't go too deep into allegations, stuff they said, like even with wonder. What is it called? Wonderland. What is it called? His estate.

[A]

Oh, Never Neverland.

[B]

Even with Neverland. They don't really go that deep into that either. Like they don't really explore, you know, why he sees the animals as his friends and stuff. So like they just don't really get.

[A]

I mean they have to make a 20 hour movie to get ever all.

[B]

Yeah, they got like basically five hours because he got the two parter movie.

[A]

So is Bubbles in there?

[B]

The chimp a cgi? Bubbles the chimp is in there.

[A]

Oh, I love that. Right? We love that because it's better than

[B]

yeah, getting a real animal.

[A]

I love a cgi. Did you ever watch the movie, not the Jack Black one, the original anaconda in 1997.

[B]

Yes. And that was my fear was big snakes coming out of the pipes.

[A]

That's so terrifying. I just watched the ending of it this morning. Spoiler alert. I guess when Jon Voight gets like eaten and they show like it from inside. Like as in inside. So you just see Jon Voight's like face up and you're just seeing it from inside the snake and it's just like, just like what the fuck? What's that? Why do they do that movie? It's like JLo and Ice Cube are like wrapped up in him and then he's eating John. Like what? Why do they do that? And is the new Jack Black movie like that?

[B]

It's I believe more comedic because it's Jack Black and Paul Rudd. So I don't think it's a survival animal horror film tale.

[A]

I think it's but same concept.

[B]

I would assume a big ass snake is involved, but I think it's mostly for laughs.

[A]

I want to watch the Jack Black one but I'm like really scared.

[B]

You know who else was in another animal horror film was. Why am I forgetting a real name? Season one, Daphne Bridgerton.

[A]

Oh, Blunt is her name.

[B]

Why am I forgetting?

[A]

I know. Daphne. Phoebe. Phoebe.

[B]

Phoebe De Never, I think.

[A]

Oh, that sounds maybe.

[B]

Yeah, right?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Phoebe De Never love her. She was in this Netflix wine with sharks. Like, oh, a shark almost that where like a town gets flooded and there's like, it's their Big export is meat. So it gets flooded and then these sharks from the river come in. And because there's so much meat from all the butchers, they go crazy. And then. Spoiler alert, I guess for this random Netflix movie that.

[A]

Is it new?

[B]

It came out last week and it actually did really, really well. Like it? I didn't watch it, but it's like, the most viewed by a lot.

[A]

Oh, I want to watch it now.

[B]

Yeah, I think you gag for the ending.

[A]

I do. Oh, what is it? Tell I love spoiler.

[B]

Spoiler alert.

[A]

Spoilers are coming. Spoilers are coming. Spoiler. Get out now. Spoiler alert. Three, two, one. Spoiler warning.

[B]

I don't even know what it's called, but for the shark movie on Netflix. So she's pregnant in the movie, and in the end, she gives birth. Like in. Not the ocean, in the town that's flooded, a shark, she just gives birth. So all the blood is out. So the sharks are starting to come for her. She puts her little baby infant on, like, this floating door. I guess it was like, hold on, Mom's gotta fight some sharks. And because she has, like, you know, she has the. All the hormones and everything, and she's in, like, protector mode for her infant or her newborn, she just like, beats these sharks up with her bare hands with, like, debris, like wood and stuff. Like, she stabs. It's like, yeah, it looks pretty fierce. I saw a clip on Tick Tock and I was like, this actually looks kind of.

[A]

That's my new goal. I was thinking about manifesting new dreams because I've, like, achieved all my dreams. Like, what's my new one? I would to love. Love to be in, like, a sharknado or one of those. Like, I would love to just battle some. Not the anaconda, but maybe all the other ones too. There was, like, a scary one, a Stephen King book, a movie about a dog. Do you remember that one?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, I was like.

[B]

It was like a black dog, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I was so scared of that movie. But I would love to be in a movie where I'm just like, I guess I don't want to attack a dog. Maybe I'll attack the sharks or something. That might sound better. Maybe an anaconda, I guess. What happens at the end? Does someone kill the anaconda?

[B]

I would assume. Right.

[A]

They stab his neck. Neck or something.

[B]

Probably.

[A]

It's a huge.

[B]

It is big CGI.

[A]

It was pretty good back then. 1997 CGI.

[B]

I think both films back then used a lot of practical effects. Though. So that's why they hold up better.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Like Jurassic park. They use practical dinosaurs. Jaws obviously, is a practical shark.

[A]

How do you think they did the snake?

[B]

I. I'm sure some of it is CGI and like vfx, but like, they build parts of it to look real. Like, I'm sure they built like the face or something and like the body to make it like slip.

[A]

It looks really real. It was so crazy at the end. I was like, like, damn, that's a crazy.

[B]

That's why a lot of like older movies kind of hold up more because they're less cgi.

[A]

That is a good point. I really wish Universal would bring back their old attractions. I miss all that. We got to go do the tour before they change it again. We got to plan a day to do that. MCD for Universal City lots.

[C]

Yeah. It says they. They used combination of large scale animatronics, puppets.

[A]

Oh, for Anaconda.

[C]

Yeah. Foot. And the 25 foot models.

[A]

That'd be fun to be in a movie like that, though. That's why I always think they should do the Ten Commandments as like a horror movie because, like, that'd be so crazy. Right. It's just like, what has happened? The flies or lice, what does he battle? Moses. The biblical Moses.

[B]

Locust.

[A]

Is that what it is? What is locusts?

[B]

Like a little grasshopper.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He didn't battle the. The plagues. He was putting the plagues on the Egyptians.

[A]

He was putting the plague. Right. But that'd be a crazy scene to film. It's just like grasshoppers just attacking everybody. Yeah, they have done it.

[C]

There's definitely movies that.

[A]

About the ten plagues.

[C]

No, I mean, they have. They have the bigger story and in that they show the 10 plagues.

[A]

Like the 10 Commandments with Charlton Heston doesn't show what are the other plagues. Anyone know Bible study?

[C]

Here we got the frogs.

[A]

What were the frogs supposed to do? Gods and the frogs to do what?

[C]

I think, I think. I mean, each one affected like, let's say their agriculture or it affected their water or like everything. Like caused basically that they couldn't. It interrupted their life. So they couldn't work. They couldn't eat.

[A]

What?

[B]

You were right. One of them was lice.

[A]

Like, I'm just going to itch their head for eternity.

[C]

Like, why did also the animals and the livestock all over everyone?

[A]

Why? What was the point of that?

[B]

I think, yes, affect the livestock. Like to make it uninhabitable.

[A]

So there's lice, locusts, frogs, Water to

[B]

blood was 1, frogs, 2, lice slash gnats was 3 flies was 4 flies. Pestilence was 5. So like the livestock just dying off completely. Boils was six. Seven was hail. Eight was locusts. Nine, darkness and ten, death of the firstborn. Jesus, literally. What the hell is going on?

[A]

I know. Why did he do that? That's crazy.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, that's crazy. That's Old Testament God. Moses always said he was the mean one. He's like New Testament God seems a little nicer. Why the hell did he do that? It's a. It's a fake, right? Right. That's not real. Or is it?

[C]

It's like mythology, you know, it's like,

[A]

okay, but, you know, okay, but everyone knows that that reads the Bible. They're like, well, this is like a symbolic. Right. It's not like an actual thing.

[C]

Parts of it. But for example, when they talk about them walking through the water.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They said that they knew of a place where the water. The tide will go down and they were able to cross and then the tide would come back up. So some things are mixed.

[A]

So Moses didn't part the sea, but,

[C]

you know, like Moses was pharaoh and some. Some people believe Moses stole basically knowledge from the library of Egypt and he and his entourage left. Left Egypt with that knowledge. So there's many ways to look at it.

[A]

But let's see you part of see. Do people tell you that growing up where they. Let's see you part of see Moses. Did people ever say that?

[C]

Really?

[A]

Really? That's the first thing I thought when I heard your name. I was like, yeah, I wonder if he's part of the sea. I feel like, okay, people were nice to you then. As a kid, you never got bullied. Pretty cool. I love your name. I think it's great we have Aquaman Moses.

[C]

But yeah, that's for my name. I don't think.

[A]

Okay. As you shouldn't be. I don't know why that thought of me, but, you know, you. You got. I got made fun of her. My name, I always got made. Did you ever get made?

[B]

I got called Oscar Meyer wiener.

[A]

Yeah. As I'm saying.

[B]

But I don't know the context, now that I'm thinking about it, like, were they saying, go suck a wiener? I don't think we were there yet because it was like, early. Yeah, I was really early. Or was it like, go eat some lunch meat, fatty? Like, I don't know what the context was. Or was it just like, just the name? Yeah, just the name.

[A]

Mine definitely was Fatty. Mine was just a fat.

[B]

Sorry with that. That's pretty funny.

[A]

I think they were trying to be mean about my weight, and I wasn't even fat. I look back, I always show pictures. I was like, I wasn't a skinny girl, but I wasn't even fat back then. It's so gaggy. I was like, damn. I kind of looked like a normal little kid.

[C]

Yeah, but that's how kids are.

[A]

Kids are.

[C]

They'll just. They'll just. They'll put something on you that they. That you don't have. It makes it even more.

[A]

I know. That's why I'm a helicopter parent. Anywhere in dance class, I'm like, sitting there by the window just making sure everyone is like, nice and everything. Because I'm like, no, these kids are. Kids can be vicious. Where do they learn it too? God, the kids are so young, and it's like they're. Where do they even hear fat at 5? Like, you know what I mean?

[C]

Like, everything comes from home.

[A]

Crazy. Yeah.

[B]

It's diabolical.

[A]

Wow. Two of us were made fun of and one of us was not.

[C]

Because the. The root word of my last name is smart, so.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

So even if they try to make fun of it, it usually was okay. Not a. Not a negative.

[A]

Okay. Damn. Never ever gotten made fun of for anything in your life. That's crazy. I mean, that's good.

[C]

I'm trying.

[A]

Happy for you.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

But no trauma.

[C]

Not from that. No. I mean, kids. I was one thing. I would say kids, teachers, people were always nice to me. Like, they were like. I would say the life outside in the world was nicer and brighter. So I was always.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So it always. Like, that was my pool is to the outside world.

[A]

I like that. So if you wrote a memoir and they ask you about your childhood, you're gonna be like, it was wonderful. Perfection.

[C]

Like I said, outside the outside world. The world love that.

[A]

I do. I love it. That makes me happy that people have just happy childhoods too. Like, I like that. Like, that gives me hope, you know, everyone seems to have, like a traumatic childhood, you know, which, you know, everyone does to the extent. But you are kind of like that though, too.

[C]

You.

[A]

You think you have very little trauma in your life.

[B]

Yeah. As a child, I didn't have that much trauma. Just the usual, like, fatty.

[A]

Oh, you did.

[B]

But nothing crazy.

[A]

I didn't know you got made fun of for wig because you were kind of popular right. In high school.

[B]

Like, I didn't really get bullied that much for being a biggie. Really? I think it was just kind of like, yeah, there he is, big boy. You know what I mean? So it wasn't really that much of a talking point, even. I was thinking about this, ironically, because I saw someone from high school and at the gym this morning who was like, one of the cool guys who definitely called me gay at one point. But, like, he kind of spilled.

[A]

But flaming.

[B]

He was. I was kind of, like, stronger, and he was like the jock. He was like one of the jocks. Football players and lacrosse players, and he was a little flabby. I was a little stronger than him, so I felt good.

[A]

Did you tell him?

[B]

Hey, flabby.

[A]

Yeah, look a little flabby.

[B]

Now what?

[A]

I want a thousand, 000. Anyone who called me, I. I don't look it up too much, but anyone who called me fat, I love to see them be so much fatter than me now. I was like, you are so much fatter, actually. So, like, what? I would. 100. That is crazy that you, like, live where you grew up. That's so weird.

[B]

I know, because I do see people in the area pretty frequently, I think. But I think because the guys were kind of debauchers, like the jocks in my high school. But I think the girls like me, and they all. There was, like, the cool girls, and they all dated the same group of boys because it was a small school. So I think the girls kind of shielded me from, like, any hate getting to me.

[A]

Yeah, I like that.

[B]

Yeah. But it's weird because other people at my school, like, one time when I posted my yearbook photo where I was, like, voted most unforgettable, and I thought it was like, oh, I love that. I thought it was like, yes, like, we're never gonna forget him. But then it was like, me and the other, like, really weird girl who stunk, and I was like, oh, maybe they're being a little shady. And I was like, wait, I. I think they're being a little shitty with this. And everyone who had, like, a bad experience in high school was like, f that school. F that school. And I was like, oh, it wasn't that bad for me, y', all, but, oh, interesting.

[A]

Well, that's kind of. Yeah, that was me, too. Me and the homecoming king, we both were, like, chubby and awkward. And I was like, this feels, like, pointed. Feels very much that. I hate high school. But, you know, if you're. If you're going through high school, it is such a small blip in life. When you look back, when I think about it now, I'm like, God, high school. Like, truly, when I go and I write my book too, it's like, it feels like it's not even my life. Like, I feel like I never went to high school or school ever. Like, it's crazy. It's like a blip. It's, like, so quick.

[B]

I was thinking about it too, because it's like, four years back then seems like so long. Like, when you start high school, you're like, oh, my God, four years here. How am I gonna survive? And then now, as an adult, four years is like, literally nothing. Like, yeah, 2021 or 2022 to now. Like, I feel like, flew by in a little blip. But it's crazy. Back then, it's like the longest period forever.

[A]

I just never thought I was gonna be 18. It was just like the slowest moving thing. But it goes so fast. David Albrecht recently said that he peaked in high school. He's like. He's like, I'm glad I was successful after high school. So that way, like, at least I had success. He goes, but I definitely peaked in high school.

[C]

What?

[A]

It's giving that. It's giving. He peaked in high school, I think probably because he just had more hair and stuff back then. He probably. You know what I mean? Like, he's like, I was better looking, you know? And he always says it. He says it, not me. He's like, I peaked. And I'm like, I think you're right. And he's like, well, now I have money and stuff, so people could be like, oh, he has money. But, oh, my God, he always talks about, like, that his heyday. And I'm like, what a loser. Like, you're 30. Being like, high school was my heyday. Like, you're such a loser.

[B]

That's so odd.

[A]

And you're like. And he just recently said that. Like, a couple weeks ago, yes. I was in my car and I was listening to a podcast, and he did say that. And I was like, that. That's so weird. Like, and he does make a lot of money and he's rich and stuff. And I'm like, and you still think you peaked in high school and that was your glory day, and you wish you could go back to that.

[B]

Weird.

[C]

I like, well, it never ended for him. He just.

[A]

I know he's 30 and he's still acting like that.

[B]

He looked like a loser back in height. Like, he didn't look anything special. Yeah, just like a schmuck. Let me See, I just know because he posted this photo with.

[A]

Is it a high school picture of him?

[B]

Yeah, it's like high school prom, I guess. He doesn't look like a cool guy. Like, he looks like kind of a nerd.

[A]

Such a nerd. But that's what he looks like now. And people think he's cool, so I don't know. He's always been a dweeb. Is that Natalie with him?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I do not care for them.

[B]

Breaking news, everybody.

[C]

Was there a picture or rumor that they're together or something?

[A]

No, I did not hear that. I didn't know that was happening. But he does look okay. David, you did not peak in high school. Like, you maybe when you were, like, 20.

[B]

I think you peaked in, like, 2019, when I loved you.

[A]

That's a good one. Yeah. You looked a little better.

[B]

I thought he was so cute. I still can't get over it.

[A]

More charm back then. Yeah. He's the only one that had, like, the glow up and, like, lost weight and got shredded and was like, ew. It says a lot about the personality, actually.

[B]

I keep saying, like, a lot of guys who are, like, not chunky, I guess. Dad bod, you would say. And they're all getting freaking so skinny now.

[A]

And I'm like, I hate that. I love a dad bod. Me too.

[B]

I think they're kind of in.

[A]

I think a lot of people do. I think they're in. Girls like it. I think gay guys like it. I think the only people who don't like dad bods are guys.

[B]

Yeah. Tea. That kind of reminds me randomly.

[A]

I'm thinking of that has the dad bod that got skinny.

[B]

I'll censor the name. But he was like, wait. His thing was eating, actually, weirdly, he would, like, go and eat. And he thought he was, like, a food influencer. But he's so skinny.

[A]

Is he problematic? Why are you censoring and whispering?

[B]

Because I feel bad because he's, like, a nice gay guy, but he's like. He's just nice. Yeah. I'm not trying to be mean or body shame, but he's like. That was just. I thought he was, like, attractive. Like, people were thirsty for him because he was bigger.

[A]

Cuz.

[B]

Like it. Me with a microphone whispering.

[A]

That's why I was like, what's happening? I'm scared. Do you want to hear you? That's so funny. Okay. He's a good person. He just don't want any. Got it.

[B]

But, like, what? I feel like, what made him stand out? What made him Stand out and, like, what made everyone thirst for him. Yeah, yeah. He had, like, just a little bit of belly and it was like, it was hotter.

[A]

Yeah, I love a little belly. Yeah. Love a little belly. Like, I love it.

[B]

It's a little shocking. Yeah, I. That's what I read, too. It was like, girls are into, like, the shredded look anymore. I read that girls aren't into, like, abs anymore, and they also want their men a little fruity. Like, that's kind of the trend right now. Yeah, you want a little in your straight man, which I think is true.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Because, like, there is nothing worse than, like, toxic masculine fight club. Jeff Woodick. I love Brad Pitt. He is the epitome. And it's so cringe. And I hate it so much. I need a little. I need a little bit of that, too. That. Yeah. Well, you guys answer that question on that loveline. Yamako. You guys answered a little question. They were talking about being like, you know, having some femininity, and it's like, that is attractive. That's the most secure you can be. The abs. I never liked. I never liked abs. And then. Or emaciated tummies. Like. Like, he would forget to eat. Like, I would always ask him, like, oh, my God, you're so. Like, when I met him, his tummy would go in. Like, it was an in belly. And I was like, where's your belly? It was like, in. And it was like, he didn't eat and you didn't. I would call him. I'd be, oh, it'd be seven o' clock at night. Oh, I forgot to eat dinner. Maybe I'll eat something. What do you mean? You didn't eat anything all day? He's like, no, I've been busy. I'm like, like, that's so insane. And it was the opposite. It was just like in your belly. It was literally like Jesus on the cross. It was so insane. And now I. I love everything about right. Because you're very strong. You have your thick thighs. And you always say you have, like, a little bit of belly. Like, after you eat, which everyone does. Like, after he eats. Like, I got a belly. I'm like, well, you just eat. You know what I mean? But it's like. Which is a very skinny thing, actually, skinny people. Because you know me, I don't blow as much. McCarthy says in Bridesmaids, like, when you're big, you really don't blow. You could eat a meal and you're just fine. But when you're skinny or have a Tight tummy. And you eat. It pops out a little bit. I love it. Our kids love it. Because you just, like, you know, you have a little place to rest. It looks good. It looks nice in a shirt. Like, it just looks good when it's, like, in. No offense to people who are so skinny, but, like, it looks like Jesus on the cross. And you're like, what is happening right now? Like, you know, like, are you okay?

[C]

Because it's a real dead body. Like, there's a reason it's called that, because.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It is the life of being a dad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. You're just. Just. You're just. You're just eating when you can and what you can, and you look great. It's so crazy. Moses will be like, I need to lose weight. And I'm like, it's so, so insane. It's. You're under £200 now. Can I say that? Is that offensive? You're under £200 now. Can I say that? You were 199?

[C]

I don't think anyone cares, but I cared.

[A]

I was so excited because I'm on a side Tic Tac. It's like the first time you reach under 200 pounds. I was 229. I haven't been too into my 220s in a long time. I was 229. I was so excited. I was 265 when I gave birth to Aquaman. I was so excited. My Dad's like, I'm 165. I was like, oh, okay. I was so excited because I told my dad. I rarely tell my dad, but, you know, diet called. Both my mom and dad are obsessed with being skinny. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm down to 2.9. Like, this is so exciting, because it happened that morning when he came up, and then he's like, oh, I just hit 165.

[B]

I drag.

[A]

Yeah, he said it to you, too, right? When you're like. Didn't he ask you how much he weighed?

[C]

No. One time I was sitting with Malibu. We were drawing. So I sit on her little chair next to her. So he was trying to figure out if he can sit on the chair because he always stands or comes comfortable. So he's just like, look at me. He's like, how much do you weigh? And I was like, wow, Nobody ever asked me that question.

[A]

That's a crazy question.

[C]

Also, knowing how much he cares about it.

[A]

What's the right answer?

[C]

So I told him. So, like, oh, wow. I didn't know you Weighed that much. I weigh this and this.

[B]

I can definitely take a seat. I could carry a few bags of potatoes with me. But he's.

[C]

He's underweight for his height, you know?

[A]

Yeah, no, he's really. He just. He's like, does not. He had a. Yeah.

[C]

He's like, most of my life, I was underweight for my height. Now I'm the right weight for my height.

[A]

Oh, my God. Your wrists were, like, disappearing when I met you. I was just like, oh. And I never dated anyone that skinny. Like, I almost, like, I, like, thought I was gonna crush you at any moment. Like, even laying on you. I was like, holding my body weight. I'm like, let me just not, you know, which is, like, fine again, if you're naturally skinny, like, whatever, you know? But, yeah, that's. Yeah. My dad. My dad had to go to the doctor, and he there to literally, like, he's like, yeah, now I eat three meals a day. I was like, why? He's like, oh, the doctor told me it's actually, like, worse to, like, not eat. And I was like, yeah, you gotta go to the doctor to do that. So now he eats three meals a day. And I was like, okay. Well, probably should have been doing that for a while. Explains why I always tell myself, like, do you see how I am the way I am now? It's like, me. And they're harmless. They don't mean anything bad by it. But, you know, they're just so conditioned, that generation. And, you know, my mom, too. They're just so conditioned to be skinny forever. Anyhow, that's fine. I suppose you can't, you know, change your habit. But I was excited for my 229.

[B]

You know what I saw that made me laugh, too, is Vanilla Mace is back to streaming. And she was telling her viewers that she now has to, like, medically lose weight because she got diagnosed with diabetes 3. So she's not diabetic, actually, but, like, could.

[A]

What's diabetes 3?

[B]

It's like, just, like, a higher blood sugar. So, like, you do to just, like, look out for your weight and stuff. And then also she was like, I did some blood work, and they said I had fatty liver disease. And she was really, like, fatty, fatty liver. And usually that. She was also gag. She's like, usually that's from drinking. She's like, I don't even partake in that, so I got it for nothing. But anyway, so she, like, kind of gave the warning. She's like, okay. So, like, I actually have to do lose a Little bit of weight and then here. Or like, immediately one of the first comments she read was, damn, everyone in LA getting skinny. And it's like, girl like, okay, she

[A]

actually, for her well being war. It's very. And no people do need it. But Remy was also. She was also that chick. I actually do have pcos and I need to do the Ozempic and I'm like, you know, it's sad. It's kind of sad. You have to give a warning for it. But at the end of the day, like, people, yes, everyone, Everyone wants to be. I've been saying this for so long. Like, every big person, like, I feel like, wants to be skinny. I don't know if there's any big persons, like, just also like, comfortability. I think a lot of big people are fine with being big. Like, obviously me, like, I'm fine with it. But if you are given a miracle pill and you could be skinny, why wouldn't you? Like, you would try it, right?

[B]

I mean, I guess it depends how everybody. It depends how skinny, I guess.

[A]

Right? I mean, there's levels to it. But like someone who's. If I'm 265 at 5 foot 3, I think it's okay if I lose 60 pounds, you know, I don't think I'm gonna be.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's just like the judgment, I think almost like the Meghan Trainor effect. Like, you know, someone like, big girl who does lose weight. I feel like people are almost meaner to big people who lose weight versus, like skinny people who get even skinnier, you know?

[A]

Right.

[B]

People are meaner to the fatties who becomes.

[A]

Well, Nikki Glazer says, because it's like they don't want people to be fat. Like, it was such a gatekeepy thing. It's like, oh, we're skinny and now everyone's skinny. And like, no, no, we need some fat people out there still. I mean, there's really none. Like Melissa McCarthy, like Weber Wilson. Like, no one is fat anymore. It is so insane. And. And I know Caleb hates the comments because I hate the Ozempic comments like that, but everyone is getting say. I don't think it's bad. I think, like, it is healthier to not have weight on you. Your knees feel better, your back feels better. I'm not like, against it, but it is, it is a crazy thing that we are losing fat culture. Like, I don't know, I love it, but I'm. If I get skinny, like, you know, like, I know. I don't think I ever could be skinny. I think we talk about this where it's like, there is, like, you know, yeah, you want to feel a little better, but I just don't think I could ever be, like, skinny.

[B]

Yeah. Tea.

[A]

But I don't. I don't know if I really, really need to be. They look good, though. Kudos to you being skinny.

[B]

Are you still eating the cloud popcorn or the cloud protein chips?

[A]

Jimmy, we're talking about it. He just said there was a new flavor out, and he texted me, have

[B]

you had the chips too? No, I want to try it.

[A]

I think he was telling me about those. She was telling me about some flavor or like, birthday popcorn. Like, birthday flavor or something. He's like, it's so good.

[B]

That sounds crazy, but love that for you guys.

[A]

I know. I need to find the exact. Wait, give me my phone. I want to find the exact Jimmy quote, because I love that he was texting me about cloud popcorn because I was like, I love it too. I love it. And I wanted to get those protein chips. I think the day my sister was here, I was like, oh, let's try Kardashian products. And it was just me wanting to get the cloud. Why are you. I love it. I am. I'm so seated for it.

[B]

Well, I just. I'm seated for Chloe's cloud billboard. That's kind of what got me gagging.

[A]

Oh, the black fishing. Can I say that or no? Yeah. That's so crazy. Yeah, that was. Who was that? I know.

[B]

Who was that? Who is on this billboard?

[A]

That was so crazy.

[C]

We have to look it up.

[A]

You haven't seen it?

[B]

I have it here, if you can see from there. Can you see that from there? Oh.

[C]

Oh, that's Rihanna or Beyonce.

[A]

It does look like Beyonce.

[B]

It does.

[A]

She was gay. Okay, real quick. Jimmy said on Tuesday, he said, closest to a real chip of all the protein ones. I can barely tell the difference. And it's Buffalo flavored Chloe chips. I said, omg. I said they had birthday cake ones too. He's like, I hope they make a salt and vinegar. That's my favorite chip flavor. We are seated for a cloud. It's so good. Anyways, all right. Me and Jimmy like everyone else. Like, it tastes like dust.

[B]

I was like, the popcorn. Yeah. Did taste a little dusty to me. But you. I am getting a little Trish fluent. You and Jimmy can very easily influence me.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

My labubu psychosis was induced by Jimmy Wetzel.

[A]

For the record, he's very influential.

[B]

Yes, very influential because he's so enthusiastic, sarcastic about things.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So like when he's. And like just passionate. He's a passionate speaker.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So when he like talks about something he likes or is hyper fixated on it sounds like the best thing in the entire world. Yeah, no, it's a genuine thing.

[A]

So that's how I watched Sonic the Hedgehog. Horrible movie, but I was influenced. And then he's like, no, it's so good, I can't wait for the new one. So I'm watching like five Sonic the Hedgehog.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, maybe this one's good. Nope, they're all bad. But was, you know, watched all of them because of him. So. Yes. This billboard, did she comment? She was like, she did end up

[B]

commenting, like on an Instagram of the billboard because it was causing so much commotion and everyone was saying, baby, that's Kiki Palmer, girl, that's Beyonce. And Chloe, Chloe jumped in there, she said, I'm crying. What is going on? And everyone's like, girl, you approved the photo. So why you acting? Don't come in here acting confused. Like you don't know. Like you don't know how he got so like dark skinned on the billboard.

[A]

You know, as a victim of like a. Too dark. I've been too dark a spray tan before too. Like, it is. It can be a problem. But it does look like they almost like darkened her more because I've seen her some spray tan and it was very dark. The dysmorphia with tanning is a crazy one. Like, it is a weird thing that we can tan and it's like socially acceptable. And everyone's like, yeah, let's tan ourselves to be darker. But I guess it's like she grew up bigger. And like when you grow up bigger, like, they tell you, like, tanned fat is better than like pale fat.

[B]

I heard that a lot too.

[A]

Yeah. Like, it makes you toned. It makes you look a little healthier. So maybe that's where she was, like, in that addiction. That's how I was too. Like, even when I start getting pale, I'm like, oh my, you can see my cellulite eat this. So I guess the tan is supposed to like cover it up, but it is sad.

[B]

It's a little nutty. I mean, it's also not just her. Like, at the Vanity Fair Oscar party that some white girls be coming through. And I was like, okay, what we're giving, like, ethnically ambiguous. All of a sudden I know you're as Caucasian as they come. So I'm like, what's Going on. My favorite thing that people on Twitter do to, like, clock someone is they'll, like. They'll do, like, a screen recording of the computer screen in Photoshop, and they'll have the photo of the celebrity and do, like, the paint dropper tool, and then get, like, the hex code of their skin color and then put it to, like, an actual, like, either, like, a biracial person or a black person and compare skin tones and be like, how are you darker than Zendaya? You know what I mean? Like, how are you darker than Menard? Like, how are you like Lori Harvey? It's, like, kind of crazy.

[A]

It is crazy. And it's just, like the fact that they made her, like. Yeah. I don't know. Unless that's what she. She is. She can be tan sometime. I love how she just denies.

[B]

I love that I just. Laughing. I don't know what's going on. Okay.

[A]

But she looks very different. She looks like also like a different person, but I guess, you know, she'd

[B]

be faced in which I don't clock a Chloe. A Chloe tune. I kind of live for a Chloe tune.

[A]

Oh, my God. Back in a couple years ago, she used to have tuned so much. Remember with, like, her kids, it would just make a different face.

[B]

Oh, my God, I forgot. She could do the kids. Yeah. Like, relight and everything.

[A]

Yeah. I'm like, do we. And I closed my fave. But that's.

[B]

Yeah, they were doing the most. They were always doing the most.

[A]

But I love those. I want to get those. I'm trying.

[B]

Buffalo.

[A]

That sounds really good. Jaclyn Hill, she was showing her skinny. It's so funny. Her chick. Here's my skinny snack. And it was like, a Buffalo protein chip. And then she made, like, a dill cottage cheese dip, and she just took the big. And I don't like any of this. It all sounded nasty to me, but it looked good. And she was just, like, dipping in this thing shut. So good. And I was like, oh, my God. It kind of does make me. Jack in the hall has never influenced me on anything, but it kind of influenced me on that. I was kind of like, that actually looks pretty good. I like her. She seems nice. But people, I think, do we talk about it off camera, the champagne pop, or what you talk about last time?

[B]

Maybe in Patreon? We talked about the makeup. Like, what makeup? I was buying. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And you were buying.

[B]

Oh, I definitely bought the Becca.

[A]

Oh, for your mom. You would say you'd give the cosmetics.

[B]

Highlighter. Highlighter and Bronzer and concealer I would get for me but eyeshadow like lipstick stuff I would get, I would buy so I can feel it like a part of the movement and then give it to my mom. Yeah, yeah. I did love for the Becca Champagne Pop. I still remember it fondly to this day.

[A]

So great. People would go so gaggy over it. I do wonder how much money Jacqueline made with like Morphe and all them

[B]

enough so she could kick it two houses.

[A]

Literally just like living your life, never working again.

[B]

Making tick tocks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But doesn't have to worry about YouTube or anything.

[A]

So she hasn't been YouTubing like a YouTuber in so long. Like full time. Bison's hair, gay dates, hairy lipsticks, candle kinda.

[B]

Yeah, full time. She'd occasionally release a product every now and then like a blanket etc but now she's kind of locked into whatever she's doing now.

[A]

So Mama in California and a big house too. I'm like, damn. They really.

[B]

Some Mormon wives. News just broke about the spin off and the cast is kind of gaggy. So I did want to address it because finally something comes out as we're filming but the Orange County Mormon Wives. Orange county cast. Aspen Ovard, Bobby Altoff, Avery Woods, Salome Andrea. I don't know her. McCall McCall, the prone, Chandler Higginson, Ashley Pease and Madison Bontempo. So the names I immediately recognize obviously Aspen Novard, Babby Altoff. And I think I know Avery Woods. That sounds familiar.

[A]

Avery Woods. Yes. She was a. She's a mommy vlogger. She was used to content with him in Kaiser. Yeah, she moved I guess to la. Yeah.

[B]

I didn't know Bobby Altoff was Mormon.

[A]

I didn't know that either. But I guess that kind. Maybe I did. That kind of makes sense. She's like, yes I did. She was married really young. She. She had kids like when she was like 19 and she married. She talks about it like she was married at like 18 or something. That makes sense. Oh my gosh, what a cast. Is any of the more wives in it like the original.

[B]

They originally said Jen Affleck. The release gag it. Okay, so they originally sent Jen Affleck was going to be in it, but now they're saying, they're saying. Noting none of the current Mormon wives are listed as cast members.

[A]

Oh, that's crazy. Well, I guess was she getting a spin off like her own?

[B]

I think she was just supposed to be part of the cast in Orange

[A]

county because there's so much speculation that her and what's his name? Yeah, I literally don't know his name. The husband.

[B]

You know, we do love straight girls. Love to have a fruity boyfriend, but, like, some of them are like, Connor is Whitney's Connor.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, he's a good amount of fruity. And then you have the ones who are, like, homophobic but also a little fruity, like Zach.

[A]

They're probably gay. It's always those closeted homosexuals. A lot of internalized.

[B]

Some of obi. Like, at least Connor's an ally. We love to see it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Zach's fruity, but also, like, hates gay people. So in my opinion.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's the closet one. I know. I know quite a few closeted gays, like, for sure. And they're just like, they're. They're homophobic. They've been like, homophobe to people. I know. And I'm like. Because they can't be themselves.

[B]

But I loved Jen. It was a couple weeks ago, but when she made her tick tock saying there's so much change going through her life and she just kept going.

[A]

There's so much change with no ring. She was showing, too.

[B]

There's so much change. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's so much. My life is so chaotic right now.

[A]

Everyone's like, girl, are you okay?

[B]

My fingers feel so much lighter. Like, she was really dropping hands.

[A]

Yeah, I think they're probably. You think they are. I think they're just, like, baiting for the show.

[B]

I think maybe they are because they've had problems before. And also, like, what's. I feel like the. What's the one thing, as we've seen with, like, the other Mormon wives now, like, what's the one thing that can save them from bad press? Dumping the husband, honey. So what? I think if she really did dump them, she'd be 120 more likable, I feel.

[A]

I hope. What if she sees everyone going down that route, like, the Jesse. And everyone's like, oh, my God, yes, yes, girl. Then her. It's like, oh, we still don't like you. It's giving David.

[B]

I think she could win everyone back.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because even me. Like, she's diabolical to me from last season. Yeah.

[A]

Mean girl.

[B]

But she's so pretty. And I think I could forgive. Like, she does seem like. And she has her funny moment when she's dancing on the table back in the day. I'm like, okay, that's cute. So I think if she, you know, brings it back to basics, I think she could win the Girls over again.

[A]

But okay. There's hope for her.

[B]

It's gaggy. Yeah. That none of them, especially because so many of them were in California recently. So that's why.

[A]

Yeah. That's so weird. Is there a trailer or poster or Nothing? It's just.

[B]

No, just the announcement of the cast.

[A]

Bobby Altoff joining is random because, like, Aspen and Avery, they're influencers. Bobby. I don't consider her an influencer because she's pretty private. Like, she just does her podcast of her life.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[A]

Because, you know, like, when people comment, she did, like, a whole video crying about how people are commenting about her boyfriend and calling her a slut.

[B]

Kind of good, though, to, like. I mean, again, it's almost like going. Her audience is so male. I think last time we talked about it, like, her audience is so male centric that they're so freaking mean to her. So it is a smart, like, marketing, branding move to now claim a more female, a girly, gay audience that's actually going to like you and empathize and sympathize and feel for you. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So kind of smart for her to ditch the freaking. That podcast fan base and get an audience that, like, is compassionate.

[A]

That's true. That's true. Because I feel like when she divorced and started going out with, like, new guys, they're like, wow, what a slut. Like, you're with all these, like, whatever

[B]

you like, and you're a mom.

[A]

It was like, meanwhile, I was, like, groomed. I was, like, 18. My husband was, like, 10 years older than me, and I was having babies right away. It was just like, this whole thing. And I kind of had more empathy for her when she, like, told that story. So. Yeah, you're right. It's a good. It's a good move. I'm kind of seated. I. Aspen's lesbian.

[B]

I still haven't, like, kept up with.

[A]

Yeah, I did love that. I do love. I do love this cast. I don't know.

[B]

Avery woods that well, identifies as bisexual. Love that.

[A]

Okay. We love so many by representation these days. I love it. And then, yeah, Avery was. I just know very little about. But I do know she's a mommy.

[B]

I'm kind of excited for a blank slate, I will say, with a little less baggage. Oh, 100.

[A]

I'm gonna watch maybe get into these shows. Maybe I don't watch female ensemble shows because I'm misogynistic. I don't know. Why don't I watch them? I should. Maybe that probably is like my demographic. I should be on Housewives. I feel. Oh, that maybe. No there any gay people on Real Housewives? They have real gays of Hollywood or something. Oh, Todrick did that.

[B]

Yeah. Real gaze of WeHo.

[A]

And then all the gays were like, we hate.

[B]

I know. Kyle Richards entered her bisexual tea era on Beverly Hills. I don't know if they've had a straight up like lesbian housewife. Maybe they have a gay couple.

[A]

Because I'm Desperate Housewives. They brought a gay couple in.

[B]

I mean, there are a lot of gays around, that's for sure, but not like a couple. I don't know if there's been a full on gay couple since. I mean, I haven't watched in a few years though, so I could be missing, but I don't think so. Some bisexual tea though, for sure. Love that you were kind of a mind reader because I randomly. It came to me what my like line would be if I was a real Housewife. Like, you know, they have the little like tagline in the intro and then they hold it.

[A]

Oh, yes, yes. What's yours?

[B]

It's a little not PC.

[A]

Okay. Are we just censor aware of Patreon? What are we doing?

[B]

Because I was.

[C]

We're deep in the episode.

[B]

I'll say it and then I'll. I'll just explain the lore. I was like. I also said it in my head. So the concept of me saying it out loud on a microphone is kind of sending me, okay, I have loose lips but a tight hole. And then I turn around and then hold the diamond.

[A]

That's not bad.

[B]

Okay. Work maybe.

[A]

Oh, you're like sensory wise. That's good. Loose. Oh, that's good. Loose lips and tight hole.

[B]

Yeah. Is it true, you know what I was thinking about the loose lips?

[A]

You don't have to answer the whole part.

[B]

Both are true.

[C]

It could be more like gossipy. Like gossipy.

[B]

How it came to me was I keep seeing the. The icons clip me, saying, I'm so relieved now that I know the cat's eye T. I keep seeing that clipped everywhere. And I was like, damn, I really do be forgetting I'm on a microphone and people are gonna perceive that. Icons. I'm sorry, I'm giving an apology. Two hours in, I said I was relieved to be in the know because it's been keeping me up at night. It's been plaguing me. Some girls have been reading into it because they know I love her and they're like, oh, he's relieved. So this Is good news he. That she's gonna come back? I don't know she's gonna come back. I don't know the fate. Harry doesn't even know that. Tea?

[A]

No, she's not coming back. What we know from Harry, Noah.

[B]

Harry didn't know that.

[A]

The way he framed it was like, she is out

[C]

from the castle.

[B]

But I'm just. I was relieved to like, finally know because it literally, it's been plaguing me. I was like, what happened? What? Like, I just. I was losing sleep over it. It's all I think about. I just stare at photos and I'm like, I'm buying. They had a record store day vinyl variant come out with the wig and I bought that and I just look at it. I was like, what happened to the six?

[A]

And now you know.

[B]

So it at least gives me peace to know the lore.

[A]

I know they should tell everybody, but

[B]

this is a damn statement. Yeah.

[A]

Before Harry Daniels says, Harry Daniels needs a spell, like, everything.

[B]

And they're coming to me like, just get. Just tell us, Oscar. Just no, go to Harry Daniels.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Chronically online podcast.

[A]

I'm sure he's telling everyone. Tana's like, he told me in a corner. Birthday party. Huh?

[C]

You didn't tell me. I don't know.

[A]

Oh, you don't know the tea. I mean, honestly, I'm kind of confused because I don't really know everybody involved. And I'm kind of like, I don't really know what's happening. But what he told me. I was like, okay. I kind of. They were like, walking the hallway. I'm trying to keep up. I'm kind of like, I don't really know what's going on. But yeah, he told Hannah at like, Justin's party in the corner, and she's like, we literally talked two minutes and just told me the whole tea. I was like, I love that so much. And he's like, I didn't ask. I was like, okay. Love that. Yeah. There's tea being spilled.

[B]

Huh? Our Gap hoodies. Mine come my small. My small Manol hoodie comes today. I'm scared.

[A]

I ordered like 10 because I got one for Ari, her daughter. I got one for you. I have like so many, so hopefully they're coming in.

[B]

I'm excited for the try on haul. I'm scared for me. I'm scared. How small? That small.

[A]

Well, I think I got you a large. Yeah. If you like a large.

[B]

Truly a godsend.

[A]

Did you get the mana one too?

[B]

I got mana, but by the time I Got there. Oh, only small and extra small. So I. I gambled. I was like, well, aspirational.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't know which one you would like. I was like, I think it's the manal one. But I'm like, is she in the group does season one. And if she's not. But then it's more of a collectible, I guess if she's not. I got all of them. I got all of them.

[C]

And look on like Facebook, shop, whatever, wherever you get furniture stuff. Like find like a mannequin. You know, it could be a decorative thing in your house. Oh, like an old fashioned mannequin and put it on it.

[A]

No, no. In my book, I talk about the person who kidnapped me in my basement, in his basement. And he had those mannequins and that is so scary creepy.

[C]

It's not giving that. And I just put it in a nice bright corner.

[A]

No, if you have a mannequin in your house dressed up like run, run. No offense, but scares the out of me. I was like, that should have been. They even said, wasn't that a red flag? I was like, no. It should have been though, I guess like just a mannequin dressed up as Supergirl in the living room. You're like, oh, okay, that makes sense. The Beast games with influencers start this week. Filming. Do you know anything about that?

[B]

What? Oh, this is what Tana was texting Mr. Beast about.

[A]

Yes. And she. Well, she's not involved anymore. And I was like, thank God. Then she told me, I guess he sent her the list, but I won't say who, but the list is diabolical, insane. I'm like, what is happening? I. I got asked for it as well and I, I had passed, but thank God I did. I don't know. Mr. Beast, he was in the news. Some hit piece on him or something. It was like being accused of something. You haven't seen that. It was like on Twitter. Let me look.

[B]

Oh, you see it? Yeah. Over harassment claims former employee sues deny

[A]

sexual harassment retaliation ex social media staffer. So his response to women working while in labor, he. Okay, so she has a text. I want to see. I mean, why is it all, like, about women and like, women's like, needs like tampons and like. Yeah, that was, you know, like labor. Filed on Wednesday in North Carolina. Fired after raising concerns and taking maternity leave. She was the first employee to ask for maternity benefits and she feared she'd be retaliated against if she did not work during her time off under the family Leave. She was on a work conference call while in the labor and delivery room. Newsweek obtained a screenshot from the day that she gave birth between her and her colleague. A co worker said they need to discuss, need to connect to discuss the ideas. She says she'll need to cancel and postpone because she's in labor and then he's. Oh. But of course. Hahaha. Crazy.

[B]

That is crazy. She was hired as Beast Industries head of Instagram in June 2023.

[A]

Sorry. No, it was, it wasn't me. Sorry.

[B]

So she started working there in 2022. In 2023 she got promoted to head of creative and her salary went from 100k to 120k. I didn't. Damn. Okay.

[A]

Is that, what is that?

[B]

I think that's pretty good, but is

[A]

that a C suite position?

[B]

No, no, it's just you're in charge of like the social media platforms, I'm assuming.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

And then she was promoted again in 2023 and her salary went up to 250,000.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And then when she was fired, her. She had 20 employees and a monthly budget of around 500,000. Damn. So she ran a big team.

[A]

Oh wow.

[B]

So she was pretty high up there too.

[A]

I mean that's kind of crazy because you know, like it's not like she's just looking for a quick payout or something because obviously must have been a big enough thing.

[B]

I'm gagged. Okay, in all fairness for my journal, my journalistic integrity here, Beast Industries has denied the allegations their statement is sending me and makes me want to like literally jump off a building. This cloud chasing complaint is built on deliberate misrepresentation and categorically false statements. And we have the receipts to prove it. This is the official statement from a huge multi million dollar company to variety about a legal. About a lawsuit, like a legal complaint. You're going to be using the James Charles drama. Get into like jargon biases, like what do you mean?

[A]

That is a crazy call. Your clout chasing is crazy for like being like, yeah, I was like in labor and they like wanted me to

[B]

work and we have the receipts to prove I'm like this whole company. Sounds diabolical. Honestly, I need to get on that jury. I need to get on that jury.

[A]

Carolina, I don't think you're in the draw.

[B]

Oh my God. I need to be on that damn jury.

[A]

That's it sounds pretty credible. Yeah. If she has like a good position, obviously wants to get hired again, you know, she's putting her reputation out there too. By being the person that sues. So it's like, it sounds like she probably has some case. What is the actual claim she's making? There's a sexual harassment or.

[B]

Yeah, so sexual harassment, gender bias and retaliation. So the gender bias is what you were just talking about with like being allegedly being in labor and asking to be like on a meeting. And then the sexual harassment comes from the. That allegedly comes from the company's former CEO, James Warren, who allegedly subjected her to meeting her. Making her meet him him in his home for one on one meetings while commenting on the way she looked in her clothes and dismissed her complaint about a male client's unwelcome advances towards her as nothing. So when she complained about getting hit on by another client that they were working with, she complained to the CEO and the CEO allegedly told her that she should be honored that the client was hitting on her.

[A]

Oh my God, that sounds like a man. I believe it.

[B]

And she says that or she claims I should say that Jimmy Donaldson Beast would not meet with her one on one because quote, Jimmy gets really awkward around beautiful women. Let's just say that when you're around and he goes to the restroom, he's not actually using the rest.

[A]

Wait, who says this? Who's saying this?

[B]

Allegedly told her because she's like, like, why can't I? I'm like the head of the whole department, whole all of creative. Why can't I meet with Jimmy one on one? And allegedly the CEO told her that he can't control himself so he can't be one on one with you. That's crazy.

[A]

They need some females, I think in the C suites of Mr. Beast Inc. You know what I mean? Like, this is, this is also why I only work with females. I swear on everything. Every time I meet an all female team, my publishers, my agents, anything, I'm just like, I'm. I'm sorry. Signing with you because I do not want to ever deal with men ever. Like, I believe all of this because I feel like every female knows this. Like this exactly what everybody says. And they always say weird this. And you're like, are you okay? Like wild.

[B]

That's crazy. The allegations are actually nuts. And girl, take it all the way. What's your name again? Lorraine. Lorraine. Keep pushing forward, girl.

[A]

Yeah, I, I appreciate that. I know. I think sometimes you're not even aware what is like harassment, Sexual harassment. There was like a project I working on and there was like this guy, whatever, that sent me my own like nudes. Like, honestly, it was a very Professional setting. And then someone obviously saw it and like complained because I was like, this is weird. And then they complained and then everyone's like, this is like not okay. And you're just like, you don't even think about it as a woman because you're just like, I don't know, like, I guess like those have been out there, whatever. It's fine that they were sent to me. And everyone's like, no, that's like not okay. So I love that she's like speaking up. I love that we talk about this because people need to know what's like okay. Because also like being. Being told like, oh, you should feel flatter that someone's like hitting on. It's like so awful stuff. It's gross. Obviously. It's like people around Mr. Beast that's being accused of all this, but also he is like the CEO. Did he say anything? He hasn't made any. I guess he want to make a statement.

[B]

Just the statement that I read.

[A]

But that's not wrong.

[B]

Oh no, not him in particular. Everything's kind of come from the company itself. A statement for Beast Industries.

[A]

Was that just today, right? I just saw.

[B]

Yeah, literally came out today. Yeah. I didn't. I didn't even know about it. So you brought it up. That that's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I was like. And then I saw the people that was on his little. His Beast game. Things like, I kind of like want to like him because I do love like a cultural phenomenon. I love people who's like, you know, big wigs on YouTube and stuff. But it's just like how is he always in some crazy. There's, you know what I mean? There's no always something wrong and it's always female related. Like there's always some female centric thing happening.

[B]

I. Unconnected to that. I. The thing I saw about Mr. Beast that was like super unserious to me that I was like, like, Jimmy, like, you really just like gotta get it together was. I saw for the first time ever in one of his videos he had to change the rules because the. The gag was locking these people in a grocery store to see for 67 days. And the winner who lasted the longest would win 250k. And they all lasted this the 67 days. And they like wanted to split the prize. But he needed one winner. So instead it was now to eat the entire grocery store for a chance. So now. Yeah. So you made it to 67 days, which was the original challenge. Now it's whoever eats the whole grocery store can win $1 million. And it could take up to one year. So it'd be one. A full year without seeing their families locked up in a grocery store.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

It's like, crazy. Crazy.

[A]

And it's like, saw. It's like, who's gonna eat their way out of this? Like, what do you mean? I'm gonna stay here until we all blow up, I guess. Because, like, what do you mean? That's so insane. Like, let me eat the way through my death. Like, oh, stopping yourself. It's insane. Like, people die that way. Have. He's not in your seven. Like, that's so insane. And so what is it happening now?

[B]

That. Yeah, that was, I guess, in one of the new videos because it just came out in all transparency. I didn't watch the full video, so I saw a clip, but I read. I both read an article and also saw a clip of it to prove the claim.

[A]

So split the money. Peeta and Katniss did it at the end. Like, let them do it. Okay, that's fine. Who is he? Oh, my God, he's so scary.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I wanna. I do wanna like him. I do love him. I know.

[B]

He's so popular. He literally collabs with everyone in the entire world and everyone loves him.

[A]

But even when I got asked, I felt, like, honored for a minute, but I was getting the pick me vibes. Like, oh, my God.

[B]

God, he knows who I am. Yeah, Mr.

[A]

Beast wants to be in there. And then when Tana was gonna do it, I was like, oh, my God, what if we did this together? And then I had to, like, check myself and like, who am I, girl? Also, for no pay, you let me leave for a week and not get paid. I was like, I don't know about that. Be interesting. It's allegedly OG YouTubers.

[B]

Oh. Oh, my God. Is it Joey Graceffa? Blink if it's Joey Graceffa. Damn.

[A]

It's diabolical. Straight men that, like, are awful to women. And.

[B]

Yeah, prank versus prank. But one the pranks, the male prank.

[A]

You're so close. Well, I'll tell you the names and just bleep all of them to me in my mouth, too. There's no I, Justine.

[B]

I'm like, I would like to see that Ingrid Nilsson. Come on. I would be gag if Miss. He would kind of get me back if Miss Glamorazi.

[A]

Oh, he would never, though, because he doesn't know he's getting all these diabolical people, but. Oh, I got. I just got a brand Deal for you, Oscar.

[B]

What?

[A]

I didn't actually. My agent ca. Did.

[B]

What?

[A]

And she's like, just. Yeah. She's like, I have a little offer for. It's a commercial I'm doing. They want you to have a little cameo, and she got you a little range.

[B]

That is crazy.

[A]

That's crazy. You were just talking about that.

[B]

That's. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's major.

[A]

Yeah, it's gonna be really fun. It's like a commercial. Next Tuesday.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And she's like, I got this. Does he have a rep? Like, I got him in the crate.

[B]

You have my rep.

[A]

I know. I was like, I think I can just text him. But I was like, kind of get. That's kind of. Oh, my God. That's so exciting.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

That's amazing. You were just saying that too. You're like, I just, like, could use a Brandy.

[B]

Elm years.

[A]

That's wild.

[B]

That's my cameo era.

[A]

I know. I love that. I don't even know what the concept is, but I was like, oh, I love it so much.

[C]

That's exciting.

[A]

It's gonna be fun.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah. You have to be able to say it's cute.

[B]

It's a couple hours.

[A]

Yeah, it's gonna be. It's really, really fun. That's crazy. I'm so excited. I was, like, reading it.

[B]

Gag.

[A]

That's really cool.

[B]

I'm so freaking gag. I don't even know how to piss my. I have a couple really quick ones.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

We'll do, like, rapid fire, because we'll call it the celebrity relationship segment. There was speculation that Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles are engaged because they stepped out together in. They went to Nobu. They did a whole day in Malibu. And Zoe Kravitz had a huge diamond on that finger. And it also didn't look sized yet. Like, it looked like something fresh because it was kind of like, you know, when it wobbles? Yes.

[A]

It's like, I don't know that. But I love when it's.

[B]

You know, when it's so.

[A]

Oh, so big. Just so big

[B]

on her petite little finger.

[A]

It's like, we gotta size it down to a four. Actually, I do see that happen, though, when girls get engaged. Like, oh, we just gotta size it down a little because my finger's so small.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And they were, like, kissing and stuff before it kind of gagged me. I mean, I guess he is of that age. They were together. They last spotted together, like, I guess over the summer. So it has been a While. But. But it's.

[A]

That's cute. I like it.

[B]

Yeah. I guess I like them together, but I'm like, damn. Already is kind of nuts. But.

[A]

But they're, like, your age, right? I feel like a little bit older.

[B]

He's my age.

[A]

Oh. And especially if the girl's older, I do feel like, biologically, even if you're not gonna have kids, you just feel like this is the time to be married. In my 30s. Like, I don't know why that is the way it is, but I feel like that makes sense.

[B]

Yeah. 37. I. For some reason, I thought there were a bigger guy. People were making such a big deal about it that I thought it was a bigger age gap, but whatever. But 37, yeah.

[A]

That's like the age you'd, like, want to get married. We knew each other, what, nine months? Oh, no. We got engaged in, like, five months, actually, and then we got married in, like, a year and a half.

[C]

We were also a quarantine couple.

[A]

Well, they're quarantined. They're all. They're traveling all over the world. They're going to Italy. They're going everywhere. That makes sense. They want.

[C]

They probably have also busy schedules. I'm sure there's a lot of time that they're not together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then the second relationship confirmation came from People magazine reporting that Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi have been dating for months already. So everyone was kind of gagged to hear whispers about them making out at Coachella, but the gag is that they've allegedly been hanging out and getting to know each other the last couple of months. I didn't know about this, and it is lesbian visibility week, but lesbians really are claiming Kendall Jenner and do not want to lessen their grips on her. Like, they're still convinced that. That Kendall's lesbian.

[A]

And.

[B]

And I know that she addressed it before, I think, on Owen Theo podcast. Right. She was like, the. What rumors about you. Do you hear that I'm lesbian? She didn't. She loves a lesbian, but she says she is not one. But the girls are still holding out hope, I guess.

[A]

Yeah. You know, it's very Joey, Shane, David. Like, I'm not gay. I'm not gay. And then it's like coming out video. You know what I mean? I think it's just like. It just happens on their terms. Terms. I think sometimes you don't even know you're a lesbian until you. Until you try it. You know what I mean? Until you've gone that route and they're like, oh, I actually. I actually am. You know, Chapel had a boyfriend for high school. You know, I think it's, you know, when you know.

[B]

And now that I see photos with the lesbian lens of, like, her style. And she does wear a lot of, you know, like, ankle cut jeans and, you know, the flats and she loves, like, a little button up. Weirdly.

[A]

She does.

[B]

They do be dressing like Jacob Elordi. Like, they have the same exact style. They could change. Like, they could wear each other

[A]

in a good way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Didn't see her at the Euphoria after party, so I can't confirm that they were dating.

[B]

Oh, that is some good insider tea.

[A]

I saw no females at his booth and we were by. Oh, so only males, actually.

[B]

Well, we do love our man. A little fruity, I suppose.

[A]

We love him. Very fruity. Fresh and too dark.

[B]

That's. That was my relationship segment. Oh, yeah. Okay. Really quick one, too. This influencer just jazzy. Idk on Instagram. People have been coming for her because she did a sponsored post for her wedding. Now she was sponsored by Capital One and she was really getting dragged for, like, having her big, like, life event sponsored. But the gag is it's like a year later, she's like, using her wedding photos as, like, a proof of concept. And she already, like, posted about her wedding.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She's just now reposting them as a sponsored post. I don't know why everyone's so upset.

[A]

How is she, like, rebranding it?

[B]

So she posted her wedding photos, like, just yesterday, and she said, hashtag, Capital One partner. Getting married is overwhelming enough before the big day. And there's so much to do. It is so important to talk about your finances. So she's promoting Capital One with, like, the lens of, like, newlyweds, you know, and out of context, people were like, oh, her whole wedding is sponsored by Capital One. Kind of tacky. I was like, girl, you might just be at the Capital One table at the Oscar.

[A]

And Darian, I was going to say get married, then she'll proof of concept.

[B]

I was like, just about anything.

[A]

Well, you got a brand deal now, so it's. You got to get that ball rolling.

[B]

If it was Charmin, if it just about.

[A]

I love Charmin. That's my dream. That is my dream brand.

[B]

Sorry, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

I take the Starbucks too. You can crucify me after. But, like, if it's the wedding, that's expensive.

[A]

$200,000. Take it. Yeah, it's so funny. Like, I thought, yeah, like, anymore, you should only Have a wedding if you're trying to get sponsored, because otherwise it's just a waste of money. You know, I really would thought we were. Let's get some sponsorships. Got nothing. And then we just ended up having all this money, and I could have just eloped, honestly. But you thought for the content. You know, I thought for the content, not you. I thought for the content. And we flopped. We flopped on it. But, hey, good for her. Honestly, Capital One. If you want to sponsor our wedding photos, I'll bring those back up. I'll get remarried. I'll do whatever.

[B]

And speaking of boys being a little fruity, there is a new side character in the clavicular cinematic universe that I don't know much about. And I've just seen this one clip, and I kind of live. There's two clips of this boy, Dylan Latham. And the first one I saw, he was like, my. My hack. His looks maxing hack was to cry, make himself cry, and then use his tears in his hair to give the texture and the volume. I did see this.

[A]

I did see this.

[B]

You kind of ate with that, actually. That's kind of tea.

[A]

You think that's real? I think he actually did it. I guess it's salty, so I guess he like beach hair.

[B]

It basically is just like the spray. I guess it is kind of like straight ish, right? Like, oh, I'm not gonna go buy the. The. The salt spray, like, in the girl section of the of cvs. Like, that's a little gay, but I'll cry and put salt water in my hair. Honestly, that's what I would think, too.

[A]

Like, what do you mean you're crying?

[C]

How do they cry? Like. Like an onion or what?

[B]

Yeah, he. That's actually a good question. That's why I need to learn more about this side character, because I don't like clavicular. I know a little bit more of the lore, so I know he's, like, more dastardly. This one, I don't know. He also looks really young, so I kind of give him a little bit more leeway, I guess.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then the second clip I saw of him was someone asked him, like, oh, how do you feel about being labeled gay or being called gay? Like this. The friend.

[A]

Oh, the new one.

[B]

Yeah, this new side. I love this random new side character. And then here comes this one.

[A]

Why do you like him so much?

[B]

Just because I thought the crying was camp. And then this little clip. Clip. He was doing an interview and he got asked by, like, a guy. I'm Assuming the context was, like, trying, like, a little jab, like, how do you feel about people calling you gay to get him to be homophobic? But he said that he finds it a big compliment. He says when the average person says, you look gay, they're saying, you look better than average. The gay dating market is a lot more competitive, so I literally take it as a compliment, period. I love this little side character.

[A]

Yeah. I was gonna say, for what we know on this context, with that information

[B]

we love will change opinion accordingly with new information is presented. For sure.

[A]

I mean, that sounds really cliffic here that I seen with, like, Andrew Tate. And I was like, okay. He's like, I'm gonna pay a woman to raise my baby till they're 18. I'm gonna give her half a million dollars.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

He's like, I would pay someone half a million dollars to raise my baby till they're 18.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

I was like, what is happening? I don't like to get too involved in that world, but damn. I was kind of, like, on his side with the Harry Daniels of it all. I was, okay. I love it because remember, I asked Harry Daniels, like, oh, my God, how did you. You get in the w. Vicky Clavicular thing? He's like, actually, w. Vicki came into me and Clavicular's thing. I was like, okay. So there's a whole lore there. I don't really get it.

[B]

And my last little note is I did apply to be in a song video, and I don't think I got a call back. And now I think I just have to accept the fact that he never wants me. I.

[A]

Music video. You are in your cameo era. I know you saw casting on all the casting.

[B]

I did see a little casting form, yeah. And, like, at this point, I didn't get a call or email back at this point, and I'm like, damn. I just have to accept it. I guess maybe I won't. I think I'll probably still pull up, put up a little bit more of a fight. But, like, I'm. I know everything. Every single one of his friends, like, I know and speak to you on multiple. Text them.

[A]

If someone wanted to get me in a video and they texted you, I'd be like, yeah, of course. Like, bring them in.

[C]

Well, probably they want you to overshadow. You know, they want to just. You don't want. They don't want somebody that will overshadow.

[A]

Maybe you are stark.

[B]

I feel like I've dropped hints in, like, the least subtle way. Pot. Like, I told Austin, Austin, I love Hassan so much. I told Christian. Christian, I love Hasan so much. I posted Hassan to Entertainment Tonight's Tick Tock at the Vanity Fair after party. I tagged Christian and Austin and I told him. I was like, I feel like this is sending a message in a bottle. Like, tell them I love him. Cutie knows I love Hassan. Ones Caroline Kwan knows I love the song. Will Neff knows the love is on. Frogan knows I love a song. I'm like, okay, at this point, do I just accept he also is, like, not even gagged when, like, Trixie and Katya talk about him. Like, he reacted to Trixie and Katya talked about him and just, like, looked like he had no idea what was going on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know if he's. I think the only way I could gag him is if I ran for office. So maybe that's.

[A]

Oh, is he into that?

[B]

He loves that. He loves a political.

[A]

Oh, maybe you don't want to get in the world of politics if he's a political he.

[B]

Ladies, for a man get into politics.

[A]

The layer I know of Hasan is a lot of people hate him, and I know a lot of people like him, but I would. I would veer. Everyone loves you, so maybe don't go where someone is.

[B]

Caleb and Trixie and Katya can handle him. Then I feel like you guys just

[A]

like him because of his monsoon thick thighs and Jimmy with those.

[B]

I love Vern Cox. Yeah, I do love a Jimmy.

[A]

Jimmy puts him in like doggy.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Like, for half a second.

[B]

The cake be cake in.

[A]

What was that?

[B]

Yeah, what was that?

[A]

What was that? I always do that when I see it. I'm like, I think it's for your own good. I would be like, let me pull some strings. And not that I know em, but I. I think I have more strings to pull. I think so too. But I think for your own good, I think it's. They're all protecting you. You don't want to be in the world all of a sudden. Some people hate you. You're on such a good path. You don't want to catch any strays with the people who hate Hasan in your association. Because even qt, I feel catches some strays for. That's true, you know. What was it a music video or what was it?

[B]

Advice?

[A]

Advice. What were you gonna do? Ask him a question.

[B]

I did write quite a tale my. My application form.

[A]

Were you on video or did you do an email?

[B]

I had to write, but I'm better with words. Like when I'm writing, I was very much giving Lady Whistledown quill dipped in ink, writing it down. I was like, I have been trying to get the attention of DL Trade for about a year now. I have messaged him many a times what I have left him. I've left this deal trade. Comments on many an Instagram post. I am acquaintances with many of his friends. I really like.

[A]

Is this real?

[B]

This is like deathly serious.

[C]

You should have showed us before you said that.

[A]

Run it by us first, please.

[C]

I would be like, too much. Too much. We need somebody more subtle.

[A]

Who's the DL train? You're in a relationship.

[B]

Hasan biker is the deal trade in question.

[A]

He's a DL trade.

[B]

No, I just thought. I thought he would think it was funny. If he doesn't get it, you may be your writer.

[A]

I think he's going to be scared. This is why you're not being introduced. He might be like, actually, I support all your endeavors. This one, I may say, not because of anything against him. Although, you know, we had that private jet instance where we did not talk to each other. I would venture, you know, they say

[B]

if you love something, let it go. And if it comes back, it was meant to be.

[A]

Well, I don't know if it was ever yours to begin with.

[B]

Okay, gag me with that. You did gag me with that.

[A]

Just honesty.

[B]

That is the honesty.

[A]

I like it. I'm here for it. I think if it's meant to be, it'll be. I do think you rejection is your protection in this case, period. I do see on diabolical Twitter, people love to come for him.

[B]

So no, literally no playing basketball with Ted Nivison. Hasan piker now.

[A]

Well, that could happen. Maybe on the DL that maybe you don't have to know. Just get a little basketball. I like your quest for this. I don't know if I'm too supportive, but I'm halfway there. If it's meant to be. Yeah, Tea, maybe just stick with me

[B]

now that I got a commercial.

[A]

Yeah, I'm really excited for you. I can't wait to tell you. I need to tell you off. I was like, oh, my God, I'm so excited. I loved it too. I loved it that there was like an offer. Chicken caa handle this or just he had people and I was like, oh, my God, Major.

[B]

Yeah, this was me pre commercial. Now he can offer it to me. I can get the call.

[A]

We gotta keep it brand friendly. Brand, brand safe. You know, that's our era.

[B]

But I love that whole brand friendly well, period censor.

[A]

Love all of it. Maybe that's the campaign. Maybe that's what they wanted you for. Well, we're all in that era and we love you guys so much. What a. What a fun day this was. I love a Thursday.

[B]

Thank God for those peppercinos.

[A]

The peppercinos really helped me over. It was really good. It's fun to be out of the house too. I love to get out of the house. And just. I did feel sad. That is Malibu's favorite restaurant. So I did feel. We'll go there tomorrow with her, but. But she feels sad that she's. But I can't fully eat. You know how I love to eat dirty with my Dutchman. And I can't really eat like that in front of Malibu. That's a bad example to set for your kids. Like just devouring food. So when I'm with her, I like to eat cutesy anyways. Or normal. Not even cutesy, just like a normal person.

[C]

That's it.

[A]

I love it. You wanna plug anything over there?

[C]

I just hope you had a good, happy Earth Day.

[A]

Yeah, I saw that Coney Hill Valley's having some Earth Day activities for kids this weekend. So I think we should get out and do something.

[B]

Go plant a tree, recycle, reduce and reuse.

[A]

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