Trisha Got Replaced With a LOVE ISLAND Star & the Most Problematic OBSESSION Review Yet | Just Trish

Summary

Just Trish Podcast Episode Summary – July 14, 2026

Main Theme / Purpose:
In this lively, unfiltered episode, Trisha Paytas, joined by co-host Oscar Gracey (and with frequent input from Moses), deliver their signature takes on the latest in pop culture, internet drama, TikTok trends, reality TV, and celebrity news. The episode jumps rapidly from social media tea to reality show recaps, influencer behavior, and personal anecdotes, all in a sharply comedic, brutally honest tone. This is a classic “Summerween” edition with plenty of chaos, takes on Love Island, concert brawls, trendy drinks, and dissecting viral internet moments.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. AGT Manifestation & Pop Culture Manifesting

• Trisha talks about her dream of being an America’s Got Talent judge, riffing on the idea of bringing a younger, fresh perspective ("I'm ready for that position real soon. AGT - I'm putting that as my biggest manifestation." [01:19]).
• Discussion of panel rotation and the current hosting situation.
• Trisha advocates for family-friendly entertainment and describes the generational appeal of AGT.

Notable Quote

“Maybe an all female panel. Maybe get rid of Howie and Simon... bring in a little bit fresh look, fresh vibes.” – Trish [01:10]

2. Patreon Content & Behind-the-Scenes Planning

• Trisha details upcoming Patreon exclusives, including marathon vlogs, Secret Santa content at malls, and react videos.
• Acknowledges more controversial/reactive content can’t go on YouTube for "fear for everyone's well-being." [06:10]
• Quick interaction about the technical elements of making react videos.

Notable Quote

“That one truly is like cannot put that on YouTube. So did you know you saw it?” – Trish [06:07]

3. Love Island Recap & Social Media Fame Pipeline

• Deep dive into Love Island’s finale, cast drama, popularity, and the after-show brand deal circuit (TikTok, Chili’s, Dunkin’, etc.).
• Moses breaks down the finalist couples, their personalities, and why they were loved/hated.
• Analysis of likability, online fandoms, and how being a “runner-up” can still launch a career (Leah, the “queen of Calabasas” [13:33]).
• Discussion of “redemption arcs” for villains through social media self-mockery.

Memorable Moment

• Trisha attempts her own “clam slam” live (competitive splits) after a discussion on Dancing With the Stars prospects. “I can clam slam. Let me clam slam. Let me get these off…” [18:15]

Notable Quote

“Once the gay is on board, you win.” – Trish [13:19] “They’re all there to be famous and to just, you know, hook up with people. Right. Like, no one’s, like, trying to find true love there.” – Trish [19:52]

4. Concert Fights: Hilary Duff & Ariana Grande

• Talk of recent viral fights at concerts (Hilary Duff, Ariana Grande), the absurdity of brawling to “What Dreams Are Made Of” and “Break Free.”
• Speculation on why millennials are getting "scrappy," possible reasons for tensions at concerts, and commentary on changes in concert culture.

Notable Quote

“If you can’t go to a Hilary Duff concert, where the hell can you go?” – Moses [66:20]

5. Madison Beer Arena Tour Discourse

• Discussion of Madison Beer’s surprisingly low ticket prices ($7–16) and why people are shading/celebrating her for it.
• Broader thoughts on concert ticket economics, Twitter jokes, and performer branding struggles (Sabrina Carpenter/Ariana comparisons) [76:23].
• Debate on why some artists struggle to “pop off” mainstream despite talent and followers.

Notable Quote

“She needs like a hit. I think if she just gets like the right producer and stuff… that’s a real like espresso.” – Moses [77:30]

6. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives / Throuple Discourse

• Oscar and Trish deep-dive Aspen Ovard’s reality TV arc, explaining her complicated relationships, social media oversharing, and public controversies.
• Critique of modern influencer transparency, family structures, and nuances in public perception (use of child therapists, throuple dynamics, fan backlash).
• Parallel drawn with “Million Dollar Nanny” and other unconventional family shows.

Notable Quote

“I do love people who share a lot. I’m also like, damn, maybe you’re sharing too much.” – Trish [35:28]

7. TikTok Annoyances: The “Is it In-House?” Girl

• Moses introduces a viral, polarizing TikTok where a girl films herself interrogating a server about every ingredient (“is the butter in house? is the sourdough in house?”) [96:03].
• Group rants about performative “health” questions, influencer entitlement, content farming, and restaurant etiquette.

Notable Quote

“If you are dealing with something like that service, spitting that food.” – Trish [102:08] “Nothing about her questions made sure the food is actually healthy.” – Oscar [99:49]

8. The Great Voice Memo Date Debate

• Oscar and Moses play and discuss the viral voice memo from a guy demanding physical intimacy after a first date, sparking a classic Gen Z-vs-millennial debate about consent, intentions, and social skills [103:32].
• Most agree the guy gives “the ick” and is not self-aware, though opinions diverge about whether bluntness is a virtue.

Notable Quotes

“A voice memo does not mean you have a podcast. Why is that so long?” – Moses [105:21] “It’s never about you. Sex is never about you.” – Trish [111:26]

9. Obsession Movie Review & Media Literacy Fears

• Moses recounts the cancellation of YouTuber Alex Meyers for a problematic review of “Obsession,” highlighting dodgy takes on consent, “nice guy” archetypes, and reviewer defensiveness [112:41].
• Trish plays devil’s advocate, but Moses insists the male POV misreads the story’s toxicity and importance of media literacy.

Notable Quote

“I am scared about media literacy. I truly am.” – Moses [119:46]

10. Branding, YouTuber News, & Proposals on the Main Channel

• Briefly touch on Ludwig/Cutie Cinderella’s engagement and the politics of sharing relationship news on main vs. secondary channels.
• Playful jabs about Trisha’s own experiences not making “main channel” status for big announcements.

Notable Quote

“It’s giving David Dobrik’s apology… Like, no, no, no. Like, put me on the main.” – Trish [121:07]

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Additional Highlights & Humor

• Pop culture tangents on Simon Cowell’s glasses, Summerween “manifestation,” Disney’s nipple-less Maui controversy ([88:41]), and Greek mythology confusion.
• Running jokes about “clamslamming,” “meta glasses,” “pagan wives,” and TikTok rabbit holes.
• Body image & height discussions; comedic rants on “short kings” in gay and hetero culture ([54:09]).
• Unfiltered advice:
  “Guys don’t try so hard. Girls don’t try. You really can just. But it is giving, like, insight. Like you’ve never been with a woman or you’ve been rejected too many times because it’s actually not that hard to have sex with people.” - Trish [109:29]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• AGT/Judging Discussion & Manifestation: [01:00–03:30]
• Patreon + Upcoming Content: [04:40–08:00]
• Love Island Recap & Reality Show Brand Deals: [08:20–21:50]
• Hilary Duff Concert Fight/Brawls at Concerts: [60:24–67:27]
• Madison Beer Ticket Drama & Concert Pricing: [71:25–78:15]
• Aspen Ovard / Secret Lives Mormon Wives: [30:10–47:05]
• TikTok “In-House” Restaurant Annoyance: [95:20–102:35]
• Viral Voice Memo Date Debate: [103:32–111:26]
• Obsession Movie Review Cancellation: [111:55–119:10]
• Ludwig Proposal / Main Channel Jokes: [120:12–123:45]

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Memorable Quotes

• “Only God can judge us. And the Mormon wives would agree with that, I’m sure. But we are a talk show and we are here to talk.” – Trish [46:07]
• “Kudos, mama. Kudos for all she’s been doing. She’s still singing. I think that’s fierce.” – Moses [75:43]
• “Once the gay is on board, you win.” – Trish [13:19]
• “It’s giving. Don’t Worry Darling, too. I’m sure a lot of men would just be like, I love this.” – Trish [120:00]

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Language: Highly colloquial, stream-of-consciousness, peppered with pop culture references, running jokes, and internet-friendly slang (“Period.” “Runner up realness!” “Not the main channel.” “The ick.” “Famously not in-house.”)
• Mood: Chaotic, energetic, often irreverent—but with moments of sincerity re: relationships, family, and real-life struggles.

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For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode is a fast-paced, joke-packed breakdown of current pop culture—anchored by Trisha’s contagious bravado, Emmy-winner Oscar’s quick-witted interjections, and Moses’ encyclopedic Gen Z–internet knowledge. It’s equal parts group therapy, comedic roast, and digital society thinkpiece.

Transcript

[Oscar]

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[Trish]

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[Trish]

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[Moses]

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[Trish]

I want to be on Secret Lives of Pagan Wives. I would be so good on that. And like, I don't know, everything about it actually enraged me. And I'm just like, take those glasses off because we're about to go swinging, you know, like, I am just so over it. Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all the gossips. Filthy Rich Riddy and Pink Hot Topic Queen. And that's what everybody thinks. She's Just Trish. Yay. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast, another spooky edition. It's Summerween here at Just Trish, and today's episode is brought to you by Olipop. We love a soda with low sugar and lots of fiber. Brand new packaging, but same classic taste. I'm having a cream soda because it's summer. Why not? Thank you, Olipop, for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Super excited to get into it. We'll get into Summerween again because I'm on my summer wing. Quick for sure kick. Quick kick for sure. I'm actually feeling really good. Well, I'm always really good at the top of the episode. Then we get about two hours in and then I'm kind of like, I don't know what's happening. The lights are so bright here. Michaela Guerra. I was telling her the lighting is so good here, girl. Because she was so close to coming. And then I think my big mouth. I just be saying stuff and I'm just like, I don't know. I can't really help myself, but so does she. You know, we have like. Anyways, the lighting is great here, girl. So good that I kind of hallucinate. I Need the Simon Cowell red sunglasses that he wears on agt, because I think he, like, wears them because of the lights, I think is what the gag is of it all. I'm ready for that position real soon. I would love to be an AGT judge. I'm putting that as my biggest manifestation. I think that they're gonna have to, like, re. You know, they do. Because Mel B. Went away. She came back. I think they're gonna, like, recycle through them because they're all great. They're all wonderful. Maybe an all female panel. Maybe get rid of Howie and Slime and then just temporarily, then they come back, bring in a little bit fresh look, fresh vibes. I don't know who else could be on it, but I definitely, definitely bring

[Oscar]

a new audience to the show. Dedicated audio.

[Trish]

It's so good. But it's all dogs and kids acts, which I love. But the judges, they're just a little older, you know, the Howie Mandel brings in the older crowd. Right. But so does Simon. My dad loves Simon Cowell. My dad loves Simon Cowell. He's watching him. He's like. He's so funny. You know what I mean? And it's like. And my dad's a boomer. My dad's 70, you know what I mean? So I think we love that he

[Oscar]

was glued to this show.

[Trish]

Oh, my God. I was like, dad, the kids, the kids. He's just like, oh, okay. Yeah. No, he loves H.G. he loves Simon. He thinks he's, like, so funny. He did love the acts, too, weirdly enough. And I love the girls. I love it. Keep Melby. Keep Sophia. I would love to be on there. I don't know, maybe a Kiki Palmer. Like, you know, she could actually hoe. She's so good. She's just a little bit younger. Vibes.

[Oscar]

Anyways, you can also be the person on stage.

[Trish]

Yeah, I did think about that a little. A little K pop. Be like, I'm singing Korean today. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

No, no, I mean, the host instead

[Moses]

of every role, you could be at

[Oscar]

least as a person on stage that brings them in, you know, the host.

[Trish]

That's what. Yeah, okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So then, because you're great at that, to give them a pep talk and be excited with them for them.

[Trish]

That is true. Okay.

[Oscar]

Clips of you watching them.

[Trish]

Be like, oh, my God, that'd be great. I would love. Especially because I've been an alum. I've been there. I've been in their shoes. Oh, my God, that's my Calling. I love America's Got Talent. And are you watching it? Certainly not exactly. But what if I'm judging? What if I'm hosting? I gotta make. You know what?

[Moses]

I am seated. Yeah, I would be seated.

[Trish]

Okay, good. I just feel like it means that because it is a great. It's like just mindless. We always watch it every single night. The kids like, like. Because usually we can't watch any of our shows. Like, it has to be like, I don't know, something they like, but they like agt.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's only family friendly.

[Trish]

It's family. It's also. But for us, my dad, like, everyone loves it. I'm really a big advocate for agt. It's been awesome.

[Oscar]

Animals like it.

[Trish]

The animals in our house.

[Oscar]

We do have animals, I think in general.

[Trish]

Okay, ask. See if your cats put it on for cheese tonight and see if they like it. Anyways, also go to Patreon. I always forget to plug our Patreon. I spent a good two hours last night. I was making a schedule for the rest of the year because I have like a book tour, I have Trishma's tour. And I was like, I'm making our schedule. So, you know, if you ever want to take like a week off and go on vacation or if you want to come or whatever, you don't need. So I was doing, doing that. But then I was also like, okay, we have to like, stack up some Patreons because I'm trying to get my implants out at the end of the year. So I was like, okay, we need to really start stacking Patreons around like, November, December. So obviously I was, okay, we do react videos, which we love. But I was really putting effort and I really think I narrowed it down. I mean, we're definitely gonna do Universal. We're definitely gonna do it at Christmas time. Grinchmas time. Like, Grinch was gonna be great. Secret Santa where all four of us go to the mall. Remember, I want to go to a mall. We all pick each other, see who it is, and we have to like, get an outfit or like a categories of Secret Santa that's gonna go on Patreon. Then I was like, me and Mose are running a marathon. We're like, Jimmy and Oscar should be running this marathon with us too. It's in October. It's going to be cooler. And I was like, it's for charity. I'm sending you guys the links. I was like, really thinking that we should all be running this marathon together. Little just Trish Vibes. I made a little team name called Just Trish. So I was like, you know, we'll see. No pressure. I thought that would be a really good Patreon. And of course the Tar Pits was a good Patreon. But there was like one other one too that I was thinking was really good. Anyways, I had the whole list of them. So you guys really go to our Patreon. Patreon.com/just trash. I really feel like it's. It's popping over there. I feel like we really give our all. We do a bonus episode where that's again where I feel a little hallucinated and I feel like it's a little loopy doopy there and it's just really great. What do we put up this week? Did we put up something?

[Moses]

We did?

[Trish]

Did we?

[Moses]

What was it?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Wait, what?

[Oscar]

I don't know if you want to say it too. I don't know, it's too controversial.

[Trish]

Oh, okay. So go. Yes. We cannot actually. We cannot say it.

[Moses]

I forgot the name here. But yeah, check it out.

[Trish]

Yes, you're right. That one truly. That one truly is like cannot put that on YouTube. So did you know you saw it?

[Oscar]

I get notifications. So yeah.

[Trish]

Okay. So it was. That was wild.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trish]

That was a while back to our

[Moses]

roots, as we said. Reacting to some drama. Some tea. Serious stuff though.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And stuff that we just can't bring to the. To the main episode.

[Trish]

Yeah, yeah, it really is. Yes, yes. For. For lots of reasons. Fear for everyone's well being. Yes. It was always try to look at things with rose colored glasses, try to give some helpfulness. But that one. Yeah, that was a tough one. That was a tough watch. So I do love a react video. I still want to do react videos. I think they're so fun and I can only do them with you mainly because you know how to edit them and I do not. I have no idea. Mo's like you can just do react videos or like reacting to like Moses old videos. And so I was just like, I don't know how you, how you even do, how you record, how you line them up together. I'm like, I have no idea. Although we could do an acting challenge together if we ever need to do stock up ones. We could do a little. We have the green screen there. Your green screen has been there for a long time. If you ever want it back. Is that yours? That ours?

[Moses]

I've left my green screen era in the past, but what, why? Yeah, I don't really stream that Much anymore. But even when I was streaming, I just was using my normal background.

[Trish]

You're not streaming anymore.

[Moses]

Yeah. And I feel like my acting tease would be, like, here. I feel like we should do again. Yeah, yeah.

[Trish]

Do a Christmas acting skit, too. There's so many options. There's so many options. And I'm really. I'm really gonna. I really even started scheduling the days, like, trying to find, like, little time slots to get them in in between my book tour and trishmas. So I'm like, we're really gonna be dedicated to. So just Trish Team, lock in. I'm very excited. Jimmy getting his first Wetzel pretzel, even though his name's Wetzels and he's never had it. Which is my favorite thing. I post. Made it all the time. Other than that. Happy birthday. We should have started that at the top of the show. Oh, my gosh. Happy birthday. I'm sending you a birthday gift tomorrow, which is today. Which is like, you're watching it today. We're filming it tomorrow. The 14th. I'm going to remember the 14th ever, because that's also. Malibu's is the 14th, so I will never forget the 14th. That's very exciting. Cancer, baby. You feeling it?

[Moses]

I'm feeling it. Cancer season kicking my ass for sure.

[Trish]

We really, all of a sudden, the

[Moses]

past few days have been so emotional. Not like a bad emotional. Just like, everything's kind of making me cry. Like I was watching Love Island. Mind you, I've only watched the first episode and then the finale.

[Trish]

Same.

[Moses]

But I was bawling my eyes out watching Love Island. I was like, love wins.

[Trish]

Love wins. Love.

[Moses]

Wake up.

[Trish]

Yeah, I. Same. I loved it so much. I was like, let me just watch the finale. Because, like, everyone's watching that and talking about it. Whatever. Loved it. Wish they would have asked me to be part of the little celebrity montage, but I can do it now.

[Moses]

Everyone. You guys. Damn celebrity montage. Like, anybody they could possibly get? Alex Warren, right? Wasn't he in there, too? Or did I miss. I might have mixed up the white guys.

[Trish]

Lonnie Lizzo, Demi, Drew Ski.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Was Alice.

[Moses]

I thought I could be mixing up the white guys. Yeah, I might be.

[Trish]

I don't know.

[Moses]

I kind of don't know what Alice looks like.

[Oscar]

He's everywhere.

[Trish]

So I think, yeah, that would be so funny. Okay. Because they. But they were all gagged. Islanders were definitely gagged by everybody who'd come out like, oh, no way. I mean, I'll say Sierra. I mean, they did have some gaggy ones. I'm not gonna lie. That was pretty cool. I would say Somber was crazy. I was kind of like, okay. He would also love Somber being, like. Love that you guys use my music

[Moses]

this season of the audio section.

[Trish]

Yeah, I guess. Here's my. Here's my tape to the islanders. Hi, islanders. I love you, Love Island. You guys are so great, so wonderful. You're gonna stay together forever if you ever want to. Come on, Jess. Trish, it is the best podcast you may. You have a life full of love. And please get married soon so I can officiate because I'm obsessed with weddings. And if you're going to have a baby, might add the name Trish to the list. Okay, thanks. Love you guys. I feel like I would have crushed one of those videos. I was very sad they didn't ask me. They didn't ask me. A surprise. I'm a big Love island fan, Dan.

[Moses]

Really? Because how many episodes have you watched? Two out of, like, three.

[Trish]

But I keep up. I know the names. I know. I know a lot. It seems short this season.

[Moses]

I think it was, like, almost 50 episodes, right? Oh, no, no, no.

[Trish]

50? Really? I feel like you just started June,

[Moses]

but it is on six times a week, so those episodes really add up a lot of hours. 30 plus hours of love Island.

[Trish]

Oh, yeah, that's true, I guess.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trish]

But it seems like only like a month or something.

[Moses]

I know. Everyone's like, wow, what a great summer of Love Island. Trinity had an amazing summer. She got a man. She has 2 million followers, and I'm like, damn, summer really be coming and going. Now that Love Island's over, it does feel like, wow, the sunset is setting.

[Trish]

Yeah, you're right. It's like. Like Halloween. Like, everything just starts coming into play. It's crazy. I guess your birthday is kind of the end of summer.

[Moses]

Yes, he is. It's really coming upon us. That's why, again, I was, like, so sensitive watching, watching Love Island.

[Trish]

So you were happy?

[Moses]

Love Brinity. I've been keeping up, but he the Bri.

[Trish]

Part of brinity. Bryce.

[Moses]

And you wonder why we weren't asked.

[Trish]

Well, I'm not good with names, but he's Nepo. Friend, right? Like, he's friends with all the Gl people.

[Moses]

Yes. Bryce has been friends with the. With Kevin McHale and Chris Cole.

[Trish]

Not fair because, like, Kevin McHale's posting stories about you. Of course they're gonna vote, like, you know what I mean?

[Moses]

Like, I mean, also, to Bryce's defense, the men are Pretty diabolical this season. So, like, I think there was no way that he was gonna lose. Also, Bryce and Trinity have been coupled up since like episode one. Like they have been together. No question if they would ever make it the whole entire season. So I think there was no way in hell they were gonna lose. I think the percentage was like 58. They won. I think that was the voting percentile.

[Trish]

Oh, my gosh.

[Moses]

Which is crazy. But deserved so deserves.

[Trish]

Oh, my God. So like the other people were all split. The other 50 was all split between the other couples.

[Moses]

The second place couple was Carl and Anaya and they're the other couple that like, they were. They were paired later on in the season. And Carl is so sweet. Carl is like so wholesome, so hot. He's so fine.

[Trish]

Wait, how do you know he's wholesome if you only watch two episodes?

[Moses]

Because I keep up.

[Trish]

Okay, you know, what's his wholesomeness like? Why, why is he so great?

[Moses]

I think because he like wears his heart in his sleeve. He is like, very hot, but also like, very transparent about his feelings. He doesn't play games and he's like, very respectful of Anaya and she was paired coupled up with like a dubious man before him. And he kind of like the whole time they've been coupled up, he makes her feel like, secure. Me, I'm about to cry talking about Carlin and I. He makes her feel secure, tells her how he feels and but doesn't like, pressure her to say something. Right. Like, he kind of guides the conversation and like, lets her know, like, yeah, like, I really do care for you. I want it to be like us, but like, no pressure, you know, like, don't feel obligated, whatever. And he just makes her feel like, silly and goofy. They're so cute together and he's so fine. I don't know if I can stress that enough. Anaya. I'm sorry, girl.

[Trish]

Is he. I didn't see him.

[Moses]

He is so fine and the gays love him. So I mean, that's the kind of the best when you have a man that like all the. The gay fans are going to be thirst thirsty for. I feel like that's good. That means you really got to win.

[Trish]

Once the gay is on board, you win.

[Moses]

Yeah. Runner up. But like Nickelandria were runners up too. And yes, Amaya Papaya, she was the winner last season, so there is honor and being a runner up.

[Trish]

Wow.

[Moses]

Leah Kab and Miguel, they were runners up two years ago. And Leah a superstar. So being a runner up What's Leah do? She is the queen of Calabasas. Okay. She's everywhere. She's a fashion show. She had. She's a spokesperson. I think she just launched a fragrance, like, a week ago.

[Trish]

Oh, my gosh. I need to get on Love Island. I really feel like that's the ticket to brand deals. Yeah.

[Moses]

Because, like, literally, they get out, and, I mean, if you're not a loser, you have a lot of followers. I think Caleb, he was one of the islanders. Everyone was clocking him, saying he was, like, kind of boring. Didn't really bring nothing, but he got a million followers. Trinity, who won? She has 2 million. I am personally in love with Jen. She. When did she get eliminated? Last week, I think. And she was the one that just had a lot of bad luck with guys. This one guy, Gal, he is a. No, Gall. Gall is a. He owns a coffee shop in Venice. In Venice Beach.

[Trish]

No.

[Moses]

And he was, like, just a D bag to Jen in the villa. And even, like, the baristas that work at his coffee shop were making tiktoks, making fun of him the whole season because, like, he was that much of a D bag.

[Trish]

What did he do? What was he doing?

[Moses]

He was just, like, kind of, like, manipulative. And then he would, like, flip the narrative to make Jen be, like, the crazy one, even though, like, she was perfectly, like, fine and normal.

[Trish]

Jen is the blonde with the crazy eyes.

[Moses]

No, that's Kenzie.

[Trish]

Okay. Because I thought she was gonna be on the blonde. Okay.

[Moses]

She has, like, a beauty mark right above her lip. She just had the viral photo shoot where she did a. It was like, a man child theme. Like, she was getting her lick back at gal. She, like, threw a coffee in his

[Trish]

face, and was he on the photo shoot with her?

[Moses]

That's why I like them because they've really made it their brand of. Like, she's getting her lick back, and gals, like, taking it. He's, like, letting everyone make fun of him. He, like, knows he was debauched. He's reposting, like, oh, my family is only caring about me now because they want to get with. With Caleb.

[Trish]

They're like, oh, that's so good. Okay.

[Moses]

Yeah. So I like them because their branding is, like, so fierce because, like, he's just letting everyone fun of them.

[Trish]

They should. I feel like that is how you can redeem being an is if you do, like, a humiliation. Yeah. Period. And we're all like, let us throw tomatoes at you, and then we'll see

[Moses]

if we, like, now I'm like, damn, do I go to Saba in Venice Beach? Like, I kind of want Patreon.

[Trish]

We should do coffee shops. Emma Chamberlain.

[Moses]

Oh, my God, yes.

[Trish]

I feel like there's other really good coffee places. We should just go all the hot community.

[Moses]

Because he also did, like, a dunk tank for charity where, like, anyone who had, like, gripes with him and was annoyed with him can come, like, dunk them.

[Trish]

Why do I love him?

[Moses]

And he's, like, a blonde surfer. Like, really not even my type. And I'm like, wait, not seeing him and Jen and how, like, Jen makes fun of him, and it's, like, funny and endearing. I'm like, hold on. Why do I kind of, like, love you?

[Trish]

See, Deathtown needs to take notes. All those diabolical men should have really. Besides photo, you don't get any redemption. But everyone else should have definitely, like, leaned into that more and said they just tried to, like, double down as being a good person.

[Moses]

Just let people make fun of you and be in on the joke. And then we love. We live for it.

[Trish]

Oh, my God. I hate. We're not together, though.

[Moses]

Not together. Just friends. But she's having fun, and she's like. She texts him hate comments. Like, all the comments making fun of him. She texts him her favorite. That make her laugh. And he just take. He posted him to TikTok.

[Trish]

He's like, okay, that's good. Because, like, people. That is, like, such a powerful thing, right? Is like, then people can't, like, use it against you. Obviously, like, he wasn't getting bullied. Obviously, he was an asshole. That's like, a totally different thing. But I do love that he's, like, able to because, like, he's right. Like, the comments are just gonna eat him alive if he tries to be, like, hot and cool stuff. It's like, no one wants to see that. We want to see you look like

[Moses]

a dog and have a sense of humor, know why people are mad at you, and accountability. He knows he was a bag.

[Trish]

Learn it. Yes. Has anyone come from Love island, like, on Dancing the Stars or, like, become famous after?

[Moses]

So funny that you say that because you got cheated on. I fear sister me. Mm.

[Trish]

Oh, no.

[Moses]

Guess who is up in Kenzie's comments saying the mirror ball is calling your name? Kenzie Moses.

[Trish]

Who?

[Moses]

Ezra Sosa.

[Trish]

Oh, my God. Getting cheated on us.

[Moses]

Like, who's. Who's cool? Your gay is cheating on you.

[Trish]

Oh, well, that's even worse.

[Moses]

That's worse.

[Trish]

Ezra.

[Moses]

Ezra has, like, like, abandoned the Trish Dancing with the Stars.

[Oscar]

Campaign.

[Moses]

And he's trying to get Kenzie from Love island on Dancing with the Stars. I know, I know.

[Trish]

In all fairness, he tries to get everybody on Dancing with the Stars. I think I've seen him try at least, like, five different people. Be like, we needed. There was an Olympian he wanted on this. He's like. I feel like. Fair enough, fair enough. Well, I guess just because of Love Island. Which one is it? Which girl from Love Island?

[Moses]

Kenzie. She was the one who was a little nutty. The blonde is a little nutty. And she does the splits on the

[Trish]

ground to clam slam.

[Oscar]

Well, he probably saw the splits and he saw the potential.

[Trish]

Well, I, too, can clam slam. I can clam slam. Okay, wait, hold on. I can clam slam. Let me clam slam. Let me get these off.

[Oscar]

Hold on.

[Trish]

Let me readjust my pumpkin here. I'm going to show you a clam slam. Dina Cat. Ezra Sosa. I was like, don't do this. Not a good idea.

[Oscar]

No, I'm just excited.

[Moses]

Oh, wait, you really can.

[Trish]

Is this clam slam slam?

[Moses]

Yeah, I think that counts.

[Trish]

I mean, I gotta, like. I don't know if I can get my leg up here. If it was, like, flat, I could do it.

[Moses]

I think you could. Yeah.

[Trish]

I might maybe just.

[Moses]

Yeah, that's impressive.

[Trish]

I used to be able to, like, hold my leg up, but I don't know if I can do that anymore.

[Oscar]

This camera.

[Trish]

Okay. I can claim slam. I'm just not in the right position for it, but I can. Challenge accepted. We'll see who gets casted. What's her name?

[Moses]

Kenzie.

[Trish]

Kenzie. Oh, yeah. Because I do have crazy eyes. I do have crazy eyes. I'll be happy for her, but, you know, no guarantee that she'd get Ezra. I would only do it. That's like, if I got cast, I'm a guest, and then they couple me up. So I'll be like, absolutely not. If there's anyone else, I would absolutely quit right away. So maybe she can. She's single, right?

[Moses]

She is kind of with Dylan, who she left the villa with. So single. Ish, I guess. I don't know how official they are.

[Trish]

So she needs, like, one of those hot dancing pros that are straight. That way she can date them. Like a glab, Honestly.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because she, in the villa, was the one who wanted to explore as many connections as possible. And it was a season where everyone was kind of coupled up pretty quickly, but she wanted to explore those connections. And she was hated for it sometimes, but, you know, that's the name of the game.

[Trish]

They're all there to be famous and to just, you know, hook up with people. Right. Like, no one's, like, trying to find true love there. Who's founder love there?

[Moses]

Well, Leah is still with Miguel. Nickel, Landry are still together. And that's to be debated, though I think Brinity, Trinity, and Bryce, I really think they're the real deal. They seem so in love. Bryce is, like, I'm very skeptical of a man, especially, like, a former model, but he just seems so sweet. Like, he has never once wavered his love for Trinity. He was the first one to say, I love you. Never, like, looked at another girl, even when he won. And Ariana Maddox, like, doing the interview, like, he never took his eyes off of Trinity. Like, he was just looking at her with so much. Like, there was a sparkle in his eyes as he's, like, looking at her. And I'm like, this is the couple I have ever seen.

[Trish]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

Love them together. And also, like, Carl and Anaya, like, their parents are obsessed with them together too.

[Trish]

Wow.

[Moses]

They're very sweet. They got, like, for some reason, the final four couples, you saw their dates, right? All the days I did their date randomly having, like, budget, and then everyone else being, like, here, Dan, like, Zach and Kada left at a swamp and were given sandwiches from Costco as their date, which was, like, kind of nuts. Like, they said Harley and I had, like, literally a fairy tale. They had, like, a. They printed out a freaking storybook of their romance. So many, like, a hundred thousand dollars worth of flowers.

[Trish]

Long island did that.

[Moses]

Huh?

[Trish]

They didn't do it because you know how on, like, Love Is Blind, you can request, like, sushi for the other person? Maybe they requested that, like, production set

[Moses]

up these four separate dates. And, like, Trinity and Bryce, they got, like, a cute dinner. It was good. It was classy. But then Carlin and Naya got, like, the full of glam fairy tale experience.

[Trish]

Maybe they were trying to, like, set them up to win, but people just, like, weren't. They just didn't get the votes or

[Moses]

at least make the competition a little bit more stiff. Because I feel like everyone knew that Brinity was gonna win.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So maybe to make it a little, like, ooh, who could take it? Like, let's really set up Carlin. And I am.

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[Oscar]

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[Moses]

I like them too.

[Trish]

Is there anyone you don't like?

[Moses]

The last couple standing, Melanie and Sincere. Sincere is the one that everyone makes fun of, calls them like they call him insincere. Like, you know, there's a lot of Puns on the name because he's very dubious and devious. Gaslight king. Manipulation king. I know. I do, too. It's just ironic that, like, if your name's sincere, then you're lying and manipulating everyone in there. Like.

[Trish]

But I kind of love an ironic name. Like, what if Aquaman, like, never wants to swim? Yeah. You know what I mean? I kind of like that. I don't know. I just think it's like a Malibu Barbie was like, you know, tomboy, you

[Oscar]

know, I was like, I don't know.

[Trish]

There's something kind of cute about it.

[Moses]

It's funny, I suppose.

[Trish]

Yeah, I guess. I didn't watch the season, so I don't know how I thought he was okay in the finale.

[Moses]

He was pretty deplorable. Yeah. He's just lie even to the guys. Like, he would lie just to everybody and, like, just change the story and then, like, make everyone seem, like, nuts and crazy. But, like, like, you were the one lying and switching up and changing the narrative.

[Trish]

Maybe he thought he was on Traitors.

[Moses]

So him, Zach, who was with Kada, he was the one that gives a little bisexual tease.

[Trish]

What happened with that?

[Moses]

He funny enough in the. So after they crowned Brennan as the winners, there was, like, a split second. He, like, is hugging Trinity, congratulating her, and he goes, can I go kiss Bryce now? And she goes, no.

[Trish]

Okay. So he was still feeling it.

[Moses]

I think he was still trying to, like, see if he could get away with playing it up. I don't know. Jury's not. Zach said that he could love Keda or could say that he loves Keda at some point.

[Trish]

Love is crazy.

[Moses]

We'll see.

[Trish]

Do you think they, like, love each other after a month?

[Moses]

I believe some. Some. I do believe. I believe Brinity. I believe Carnia. I do not believe the other two whatsoever. But, yeah, it's interesting, though, because everyone hates sincere so much that, like, brands are offering Melanie, like, brand deals if she dumps him.

[Trish]

Oh, my gosh. She would get so much. She would be at Arby's, Chili's, Duncan. She would be doing all those, you know, because.

[Moses]

Raising games.

[Trish]

Yes. Oh, she would be like, who was that? Someone did that.

[Moses]

Who?

[Trish]

There was a girl. Oh, I think it was from Summer House that did one with Arianimatics. I think it was, like, a Sonic commercial. And it was like. They both were, like. Right. Because one of them got, like, cheated on by. I think it was Sierra. Yeah. And I think they did that. I think they love a little, like, breakup moment.

[Moses]

That's that is great power of it all.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Dumping a loser who was the one.

[Trish]

Did you see the Chili's ad with one of the bombshells?

[Oscar]

No.

[Trish]

She might have been eliminated, but she was doing the new bombshell margarita. Oh, that's great. Yeah, it was really good. They're only $6. I don't know if she was like, I didn't watch the season, so I'm not really familiar with any of them, but I did love that they were so on top of it. I was like, did she just get out of the villa and get a Chili's brand deal right away and love that.

[Moses]

I know. I'm trying to see.

[Trish]

Are you on the Chili's page?

[Moses]

To their Instagram.

[Trish]

They just posted one. Is it not like the top one?

[Moses]

Yeah, it is. I'm just saying it's all previous. Yes, it's previous because Charlie's in here.

[Trish]

Oh, they just reposted it.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Okay.

[Moses]

No, it's like, it's new, but it's older. Islanders, not from the season.

[Trish]

Okay, well, they could have been quicker with it.

[Oscar]

I love that.

[Trish]

I love it. I guess that's the point of Love island, right? You come off and you get a brand. Deal was Rob Trader. Rob from Love Island.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trish]

So he got a Sonic one. He was like, in.

[Moses]

He's everywhere. Yeah.

[Trish]

So I have a feeling the liar on this show is probably trying to be like a Rob trying to get on Traders and accidents with stars. That seems like the pipeline.

[Moses]

Him on Traders kind of t actually sincere. Yeah. Since you're on Traders, I feel like

[Trish]

that's what he's trying to do. You know, when you try to be a little diabolical, you're like, well, this isn't gonna work out for me, so let me try. Yeah, just hop on a different show.

[Moses]

Yeah. I think a lot of the people, a lot of the Bombshells hope. A lot of the islanders hope once they leave, like, you know, they're curious about their follower, the follow account. For real?

[Trish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

[Moses]

I think now people can, like, read through it, though, really easily. Like, I think it's kind of obvious if you're, no pun intended, insincere about, you know, why you're going on the show. A lot of them are, like, former actors or models or whatever, but, yeah, that kind of makes sense because you have to be hot, to be honest.

[Trish]

So, yeah, they do not go season. They honestly should average or they're one. I follow a couple tick tockers that are like, I am not attractive. And I've never had a boyfriend. I follow a lot of people like that that are just like not conventionally attractive. And they say so I'm not saying it. They're saying it. And they always will be like, I'm 38, I'm conventionally not attractive and I've never had a boyfriend. And here are things that I'm living by. There's like a few tiktokers that. That is their whole brand.

[Moses]

You know what they should do? They should be there for winter in the winter, because you know, to be covered up. Like we want to have a big oversized jacket in front of us, like a big flannel, you know. So winter should be the uggos and fatties and stuff and keep the skinnies and the ripped in the chiseled.

[Trish]

Okay. Not very body positivity. But we love. I like that. I like that way you're think though to help them to feel more comfortable.

[Moses]

I agree.

[Trish]

And there's so many of those tiktokers, guys and girls. I'm like, why don't you all get on an island and date each other? Because none of them had a boyfriend. None of them had kisses at 40. And I'm like. And that's fine. I think that's fine. I always tell them I'm a late bloomer too, but I think they need a show for them. But shout out to all the Love Islanders. Congrats to Brindy. You're my favorite Love island couple and I hope you get all the brand deals. Tinder and Ollie Pop and all of them.

[Moses]

And I want to be friends with the Glee cast. Like how come you're friends with Bryson, not us? Chris Colford.

[Trish]

Oh, Chris Colford too.

[Moses]

Who's the other one? Kevin McHale.

[Trish]

But Darren. Chris I saw too. He was on. Yeah, I didn't know. Chris Cole.

[Moses]

Chris Colfer posted. Congratulations to Bryce. Kevin McHale posted.

[Trish]

Does he know them?

[Moses]

Chris Colfer said that they've known each other for like 10 years or something. I mean he did. Bryce used to be like the Tumblr it boy model and he's a little bit older. Bryce is 30, so it's weird for Love Island. That's like old. I was shocked when I found out.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Whoa. Oldie.

[Trish]

But Yeah, I think 30 might be the cut off for that. That's a little too old to be on Love island. But give him. He looks good, I guess.

[Moses]

Yeah, he's a cutie.

[Trish]

He's not friends with Matthew Morrison though.

[Moses]

Well, maybe that's a good thing. But the green flag.

[Trish]

I am just keep on Trinity. And I am. I'm just. I just think he's just such a good entertainer. I just really love him.

[Moses]

Red flag.

[Trish]

No, but he's. He's a good performer. I don't know. Well, you didn't. You pivoted from your birthday. But happy birthday. You go to Maggiano's tonight in Orange County. Newport.

[Moses]

That's quite a commute. Although I'm trying not to pivot again. But I have. I've been hyper fixated on Aspen Ovar, who's on the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Orange County.

[Trish]

You hate talking about your birthday.

[Moses]

I know. I'm not even meaning to, but I just thought, like. Like, I could do a double. Like, if I went to Orange county for Magianos, I would like to.

[Trish]

I didn't want people to be like, she didn't even ask about Oscar's birthday. And I'm like, I care deeply about

[Moses]

it, but you care.

[Trish]

You don't.

[Moses]

A lot of my head right now. Yeah.

[Trish]

Okay. No, I love this. I love. She's back. She's back with her man, Aspen Ovar. Yeah. Did you see the picture?

[Moses]

Yes. So I've been going deep. All of a sudden, I've been getting Aspen over, like, tick tock tea on her. And I'm, like, trying to get into it. I'm like, wow, she's actually quite interested.

[Trish]

Is she in Orange County? I know she's on the show.

[Moses]

She is in Orange County. Yeah. And a couple escondalas with her. Well, one, she posted the boyfriend tag. She's in a throuple for context. She's in a thruffle, and she posted a boyfriend tag. And the girl and the thruffle. Her girlfriend is, like, in the backseat, hidden. And then it's. She's doing the boyfriend tag with Billy, the guy in the thro. And everyone's like, oh, she. This is so awkward. Like, she won't only, like, cares about Billy. She only wants Billy. And I'm like, I don't know.

[Trish]

Well, can you see the girl behind. Or she hiding?

[Moses]

She's kind of hidden behind the chair a lot. When we film the Joy Grisella video and I'm behind the chair. Yeah.

[Trish]

Oh, because you know, Johnny Gilbert will be in the back when you see him.

[Moses]

She's, like, blocked. Like, you really don't see her.

[Trish]

Oh, that is so.

[Moses]

But she. But Aspen is more. Well, she originally got into this level because she connected with Bri, the girl in the throbel. This is so hard to explain, but she connected with Bri first and she's been adamant that like she does not want to be with another man. Like she knew that she wanted to be specifically with a girl, but you're with the man. Well, she said that she was with her ex husband Parker for eight years. They got divorced and she wanted to.

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[Moses]

Experiment sexually. Like, she knew that she had an attraction to women. She was trying to figure out to what extent that was she the first woman that ever. She ever. She went on a date with one woman previously, but the first woman that she ever like, was intimate with was this girl Bri. And they've been together for like a year and a half. She said they initially connected because she was in an open marriage. Bri was in an open marriage and she reached out to Aspen because she thought she was cute and they wanted. She wanted to hook up with her. And then they ended up connecting and then she got introduced to Billy, the husband. Then they became a throuple. And yeah, she said that if it. The only man that she's attracted to is Billy. If she breaks up from the throuple, like she will not be with another man that she's only.

[Trish]

But she said that before, right? And now she's with Billy. So until you meet the next Billy and they're like, only you I'm attracted to.

[Moses]

It is kind of because also like I'm. I'm. I don't really go here. I'm just learning all this now. I used to watch Aspen over back in the day when she was like a lifestyle girly pre the kids and stuff. But yeah, so her ex husband Parker, that was her first boyfriend who then became her husband. That was the only guy that she's been with. And then she got out of her marriage and then the first girl that she's with is Brie and she's already like, you know, this is the one. Like, I'm in love. So some people have clocked up like, well, she's only been with like, yeah, one gamma, one woman. Yeah.

[Trish]

So she just doesn't know which is Fine. Because she doesn't have the experience she's not experiencing yet. The world.

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trish]

The flavors of life. Life.

[Moses]

It's. It is interesting.

[Trish]

But I do love that she falls in love with everybody that she dates,

[Moses]

which is a very queer, like, stereotype. Yeah. And she acknowledges that too. She's like. Yeah, that's like a very, like, gay, like a lesbian trope stereotype is that, like, lesbians move really quick.

[Trish]

I love it. I love when girls become, like, fire lesbians, and then that's like, they're like, I'm gay. And I love it so much.

[Moses]

I love it too. And I just was listening to a podcast of her with, I think it's called, called Becca Moore for the Girls.

[Trish]

Oh, yes, I am.

[Moses]

Yeah, I was listening to it.

[Trish]

She.

[Moses]

The way that she talks about, like, her sexuality and then, like, being in the thruffle was so interesting, I think, because I literally have, like, no idea about it.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And it. It does sound so unconventional that, like, I don't know, it opens my mind and eyes. I'm like, oh, that's actually quite interesting, the way that she talks about it, because she describes that she has, like, a relationship with Brie, a relationship with Billy, and then they have a relationship together as well.

[Trish]

Oh.

[Moses]

So, yeah. So I think the way she talked about it is pretty interesting. Yeah.

[Trish]

Oh, that's. That's difficult. Two relationships at one time is very difficult.

[Moses]

I know. And they live separate. They live close, but, like, they live. Brie and Billy live together. And then she has her own house and then with the. With her kids and stuff, too.

[Trish]

I mean, because it's like a new relationship. Relationship. Two new relationships. The kids have to get used to one step parent and then two step parents.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

It's gonna be the adjustment.

[Moses]

They've been together a year and a half so far. Oh, yeah.

[Trish]

Well, damn, that went fast.

[Moses]

I know.

[Trish]

Oh, I wonder what's gonna happen.

[Moses]

It is interesting.

[Trish]

She shares a lot. Damn.

[Moses]

I know.

[Trish]

I do love people who share a lot. I'm also like, damn, maybe you're sharing too much. But I love it, like, as a consumer. But damn. Sometimes you're like, well, this is a lot. Because, like, what if the relationship doesn't last? You know what I mean?

[Moses]

Like, is that she's so public that I assume that they were together, like, a long time already. Because a year and a half is. Yes, a long time. But also, in the grand scheme of things, not.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

If you're already so public. Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah. And for the secret lies and Mormon wise Of Orange County. Like, she obviously has them in the show. They're a big part of her story in the show. So then they've become more public on social media because they weren't really on it before.

[Trish]

Oh, no. It's like a not good idea either. I feel like once you're on tv, then it's like this, like, weird TV relationship. And are you together with me because I'm on a TV show, or is that why we're staying together? Like, it's very.

[Moses]

I don't want to say messy. It's very unconventional, though. I will say that. Like, it's hard for a lot of people to wrap their minds around. And a lot of people think, like, oh, she must like one more than the other, or someone has ulterior motives. Or, like, those poor kids. How is she gonna explain to the kids?

[Trish]

I think it's, like, not fair. But, like, that is the world. Like, I wish. Like, that's a problem is, like, because it's unconventional, people are gonna be so judgmental. And, yeah, you bring the kids. Kids involved only because that's how people are. There's one I watched on that Million Dollar Nanny. I watched a little bit without Moses. He hates that show, but I watched a little bit. And there's these three dads that are on so many reality shows, and I like them. I know one's name is Moke, Another one's name Mike. And then there's, like, there's, like, Daddy Moke, Daddy Mike, and, like, Daddy Tom or something. There's like, three dads, and Daddy Mike and Daddy Tom were together, but then now Daddy Mike and Daddy Moke are together, and they have two kids from Daddy Tom and Daddy Mike's. But daddy Moke makes, like, the breakfast anyways. They're like three dads, like, living together. They're on the Million Dollar Nanny. One really like them. I really like them. The comments are, like, so mean because they have kids that are, like, 7 and 8, and their kids are, like, great. Their kids are, like, on all the shows with them and stuff like that, you know? But people love to just, like, judge what they don't know, obviously, because they're like, how can. How can you still be with the ex? Obviously use co parenting. How can you be with the ex? We have the new guy in here and seven, and the ex is old. Mocha's young and hot, and. And then, you know, it's fine. But then it's like, people are like, but the kids like the kid. Everyone's worried about the Kids, in my opinion. I'm like, well, they have three dads. They're gonna get, like, more love. I feel like the. The more people around, the better. But people have to be assholes. And their comments are like, especially because the Million Dollar Nanny show, because that shows a mess on its own and it has nothing to do with Daddy Mike, Daddy Mok, and Daddy Tom. It's like, literally, the nannies are like, the worst part. We just met someone that knows someone else on the show too. That's like a family on the show. I'm like, what? Anyways, it's the nannies. The nannies are crazy. The nannies are like, I slept with the dad in my last job. I was like, who's gonna hire you? Like, you're so with Zane. That's who. That's Zayn's like, ex assistant on the show is like one of the nannies. Yes. He's like, my assistant quit to go be a million dollar nanny. I was trying to figure out connection was or whatever like that. And they were like, watching her on the show and she was, like, the drunkest. Even though she's like, the leader of the group that you watch 15 minutes of. The leader was the one who. Yes, she was the one that's like, oh, I slept with the dad of my, like, last family. I was like. And I think she was a Kardashian and I think she was Courtney.

[Oscar]

But was she an assistant, too, to Zayn?

[Trish]

Yeah, for like, a year and a half. And he was like, I guess she was a good one because he was, like, sad that she left. And then they were trying to, like, watch it. I don't know where I saw this. Am I a member of Patreon? I don't know. I do love them, but, yeah, it's a mess of a show, but the show is messy. But. But then everyone gets. They hate on this, like, family who's literally just there. And then they get mad when they want to have, like, a nanny. And I'm like, well, they're trying to have another person help out. Like, I don't know. People are. People just love to judge. I thought it was a really cute situation. So I was like, I'm reading the comments. And then you're like, oh, people are awful. They love to destroy something. And that's why I feel. I fear Back to Aspen is the same thing. Especially because mom talk. What is it? No, what is it called? Mormon Wives of oc. I feel like it's already just. I'm down to watch It. I feel like people already are just like loving to hate on it. Obviously the Bobby Altoff of it all, which I love her too. I'm like a new fan of Bobby. I just feel like people are already. Is there like Lebrant sister, one of the sister in law, the Lebrant's or am I just making that up?

[Moses]

Probably.

[Trish]

Okay. Lots of blonde people.

[Moses]

They get all confused. Me scared for us learning their names.

[Trish]

But it's definitely gonna be like Macy, Milky Miles. There's gonna be so many of them. And I fear Aspen is in there because Aspen's in that group that I'm so not familiar with. I'm getting more. It's like the Avery woods. The Aspen over like those lifestyle girlies that I'm just like. I don't know. It was a different. It wasn't Remy and Alicia. So I like there's like another side of lifestyle girlies that were like into neutrals and stuff and Stanley cups and I'm not on that. And I guess younger too. Younger than me. So I fear it's like a little too much. But who am I to say that really?

[Moses]

She does say that.

[Trish]

She.

[Moses]

The way that she told her kids about it, like she. They go to like a child therapist and the way that they introduce it is like with the kids therapist. So I thought that was interesting too.

[Trish]

That's a good idea.

[Moses]

It was important for me to have a professional be able to explain this. A way that like makes sense to kids. So I thought that was.

[Trish]

They know.

[Moses]

Yeah, like her kids know about her relationship. And then they were introduced via the. Their therapist, which I thought was.

[Trish]

Oh, they. They met. They met the couple. The thrle.

[Moses]

Yeah. And how to go, I guess. Well, she didn't really. She doesn't talk about her kids too much and she doesn't show their faces and stuff. So it is kind of interesting because it's like she is such an open book. But then the kids are very private even though she talks about, you know, being a mom. So yeah, she's very interesting to me. I just was. All of a sudden I keep getting dropped off in random, like places in tick tock. Random dramas and scandals and opinions.

[Oscar]

And I'm like.

[Moses]

I go down the rabbit hole. I'm like, this is so fascinating.

[Trish]

I need to start writing down. I get dropped into the middle of so many. And I just like get so obsessed. And then it drops me to like the original video. And I was like, oh, this is what we're. I can't remember. I need to Start writing these down because there's so many, many Nichi ones that I find, and I'm like, oh, damn. I do get the side of it sometimes. I get a little bit. Yeah, the Aspen ovards. So what was the. Her kissinger. Ex.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. And that was the other escondalo that she experienced lately, too. She posted a carousel on Instagram, and one of the photos in the carousel was her kissing her ex husband, Parker. And it was like a family photo on the beach with, like, all her kids.

[Trish]

And they're like, lip kissing.

[Moses]

Yeah, like, lip kissing. And it's weird because they also have, like, a very, very dicey relationship. Now she says that, like, you'll see it in Secret Lives and More Wives. OC they need a better name. Anyway.

[Trish]

What is S L O M W?

[Moses]

Slum Walk. Slum walk.

[Trish]

Oh, my God. Oh, see? No, I hate it. No, no, no.

[Moses]

She said her arc in Slum Walk. You'll see Parker kind of struggle with coming to terms with her being in the third. Yeah, I guess the co parenting, like, he's not very accepting of her relationship.

[Trish]

So I feel like it's a little, like, for the plot. I don't know if this is real because, like, think of, like, a Tate, right? Taylor, Frankie, Paul's first husband. Like, he's not in Secret Lives. I'm sure if I'm all of a sudden joining a throuple and introducing my kids to my new throuple, which, you know, whatever. I don't know if Moses is gonna be down to be on that reality show. Be like, oh, we're about to film a reality show. When I. Beyond. Would you maybe.

[Oscar]

I know, depend what the angle of a show.

[Trish]

If I'm on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and we broke up and I'm in a new throuple, I'm with Mok and Mike. Daddy. Mocha.

[Oscar]

Daddy.

[Trish]

Mike, are you gonna. Come on.

[Oscar]

Wait. This scenario is very, very, very.

[Trish]

You know, I'm only gonna get a thruffle if it's two gay dads. I'm gonna be in the lavender Marriage times too.

[Oscar]

Well, at that point, that means I'm single. I better come on and.

[Trish]

And do what?

[Oscar]

Find my family.

[Trish]

Oh, you want to date a house? Housewife? I hear Real Housewives. Okay, okay, so he's down. So I was wrong. I was thinking, like, okay, there's no way that her ex husband would want to be a part of this show if it was real, but maybe. All right, okay. I'll put it the other way. If you Went on a throuple and you were on a show, I'd be like, absolutely not. I'm gonna be part of that mess. I'm not gonna look like a Bozo the Clown. You know what I mean? Like, it would be the opposite.

[Oscar]

But anyways, maybe I'll be Mosi the Clown.

[Trish]

Okay, Daddy. Mosey. I like it. I like it. Mosey the Clown. I used to call him Mosi when we first met him.

[Moses]

That's cute.

[Trish]

I liked it. I was like, mosi. He's like, hate it. Mose hates that. I love it. I love Mosi.

[Oscar]

Too many nicknames.

[Trish]

It used to be in my phone was Mosi. I thought it was cute. All right, well, yeah, I'm seated for the show.

[Moses]

Me too. People thought that. That either she posted it for the show, like, to make some drama for the show because they're wrapping up filming, or I think they just finished rapping. So maybe it was, like, the end of filming for them. Or she posted it and then production made her delete it. So the hypotheses are either way. Either she posted it because the show, or she deleted it because of the show. Who knows? I guess it is kind of confusing. I don't know. I'd be confused as a kid. I mean, you're a child of divorce. Wouldn't that be kind of weird?

[Trish]

For what part?

[Moses]

Like, if, like, your parents are separated, you already are processed, all that, but then they're, like, together kissing.

[Trish]

Ye. Yes. Well, I didn't even think about that part of it. You're actually so right, Honestly. I guess as a kid, you're probably like, love this. But then I guess if you know her new relationship, then you're probably like, well, what's happening? Are we on a. Are we polyamory? Polyamory. Yeah, polyamory.

[Moses]

Polyamorous.

[Trish]

Polygamous.

[Moses]

Yeah, polygamous. Polyamorous.

[Trish]

Yeah, polyamorous. What's polygamy versus polyamory?

[Moses]

Is it polygamy? Something religion?

[Oscar]

No, I think it's like when you marry polyamory.

[Moses]

Oh, tea.

[Trish]

Oh, polyamory. Just love it.

[Moses]

What religion am I thinking of?

[Trish]

Polygamy. Mormons. I don't know. Polygamy. Oh, what's the one? I was Wiccan. No, what? Paganism set. The one you're thinking of. I love the pagans. The original religion, really. All about nature, smoke, air. I want to be on secret lives of pagan wives. I would be so good on that because, you know, there's so many, like, women around here that are into light, witchiness you know, they're running to like.

[Oscar]

But I feel like that's a spin off from your tavern show. First you have your tavern show, then

[Trish]

you meet more pagan waves.

[Oscar]

I love more of them.

[Trish]

I mean, a lot of like. Like whimsy, mythical. Remember, like the girl we went on the boat with? She's like, I'm a little witchy. And I was like, me too, but light witch. Everyone's always like, but light on the witchy. I was like, same. We're a little.

[Oscar]

I got a shirt for the time cavern.

[Trish]

Oh, you want to be in it? Where is it?

[Oscar]

It's getting steamed.

[Trish]

Okay. I can't wait. I didn't know that. That's a surprise to me. We'll do it today.

[Oscar]

Now that I know the show.

[Trish]

Yeah, the Secret Life of Pagan Wives. All right. Can't wait to see it. We'll act out our scenario on there. Were you looking something up or.

[Moses]

No, I was trying to find what religion I was thinking of. I think you're right. I think I was thinking of paganism

[Trish]

because it's PG in there. Png. Yeah, I think, yes. I think it's confusing, but I'm never one to judge.

[Moses]

Never.

[Trish]

Well, I'm always judging, but who am I to judge? I should say, am I judging? Yes. Should I be judging?

[Moses]

No.

[Trish]

Only God can judge us. And the Mormon wives would agree with that, I'm sure. But we are a talk show and we are here to talk. So I would say. I would say it's a little confusing. There was one God. There was a couple. Like a celebrity couple. I can't think now. I don't know. But like, I feel like I can confidently say if anything happened between us, I cannot date. I think I've just had so much trauma. Not for even. Not even just for myself in the dating world. Step parent trauma. I know some people love their step parents. I really wish that could be me. I had like four stepdads and other step relationships. And just maybe it was my. Maybe I was problem. Maybe I was a horrible kid. I don't know. Maybe I just hated anyone that weren't my parents. But valid. Some kids, you know, some kids just can't deal with that either. You could probably have like the best step. My. My stepparents were not the best, but you probably have the best step parents and you can sell a child that's like, you're not my dad. You know what I mean? I don't know. I'm too scared for that.

[Oscar]

But I don't think you Were the problem, though.

[Trish]

Thank you. No, I definitely wasn't. Spoiler on my end. I definitely wasn't, but I would assume some. I don't think I could, but I think that's just my own choice. I don't think I could, but I guess, you know, I'm okay to be lonely for the rest of my life. If anything were to happen between us,

[Oscar]

we wouldn't be lonely. We have kids.

[Trish]

And that's true. That's part of our deal, too. You also can't remarry. You know, people are always like, oh, my. The wife would. Oh, your wife would have wanted you to move on. Not me.

[Moses]

On the record. Several times on the record.

[Trish]

Natalie's. Until like, married on their own. And then I guess you could find a light wife in your 80s or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think in general, this is my personal opinion is like, when you have, like, anytime that you're not getting from me, the kids are gonna get from

[Trish]

me if we're not together.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Like, there's no. Like, you don't just bring somebody else into the equation. Like, the kids needs even more of my time now.

[Trish]

It's hard because then it's like, we want to have my sister or we want to have Oscar. You know what I mean? So I get the whole, like, you know, know, creating new families. Do, I don't know, whatever. Do what you want, but not Moses. Everyone else, do what you want. The polyamory is like a crazy girl, but she has to know that. Obviously, she has to know. I mean, I think if she didn't want the judge. You know what? She's the only reason I'm. I'm interested in the show right now. So she's. She's the Taylor, Frankie, Paul. At the moment. She's getting me glued in and seated for the show. So you're doing your thing, girl. They should give you a raise because you're really being messy, and I love it. Damn. I feel like they should do that. The messier you are. Like. Like, Khloe really carries the Kardashians. Like, I really feel like with her baby daddies and stuff like that, I really feel like if you're the messy one.

[Moses]

Scandal bonus.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

How many scandals you bring.

[Trish]

They really milk the Lamar, the Tristan. They also should be getting bonuses. I hope they are. But, like, Chloe definitely needs to because she's really just airing her whole life out there while Kylie. We know nothing about her and Timmy from the show. So I like it. I'm seated for it, and I feel like kids Are fine. Truly, Truly, truly, truly. My opinion, and I think that with all these kids on the show, I think they're fine. They have parents that love them. I think they'll be fine. And if not, they sound like they're already in therapy, which is great. I wish I would have gotten therapy earlier. And I think they'll all be fine. And if not, sometimes the traumatized kids turn out to be amazing. Quite like myself.

[Moses]

They'll write a book one day.

[Trish]

Yes, they'll write a book. And they will thrive. And, you know, trauma kind of makes you interesting sometimes, you know, like, oh, what's your trauma?

[Moses]

Yeah, you have a story to tell for sure.

[Trish]

But then you're not traumatized. And you're very interesting too. So I don't know.

[Moses]

But I'm not interesting. I talk about people who are interesting.

[Trish]

Yeah, you're smart. You were. You were not traumatized. So you became. You're just like a really smart, well educated kid. And now you have great jobs. You have like two amazing jobs. And more people want you working for them. So you just succeeded in the right way. But that's good. You have that talent, honestly. And we come together. Actually, Moses, you're not really traumatized, are you traumatized? You never talk about it. He never talks about emotions or trauma or childhood or anything. I'm like, are you okay?

[Oscar]

Because I dealt with it and now it's all good.

[Trish]

Okay. You think you're healed?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I healed before.

[Trish]

You had some trauma. Yeah, you had a little. I don't know if you call it trauma. Sometimes she tells me stories. I'm like, that's really sad.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But I healed before we met. I think it's important to do it before you enter.

[Trish]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Relationships.

[Trish]

Not all of us are like that.

[Oscar]

No.

[Trish]

But I'm just saying, some of the times the relationship heals us.

[Oscar]

Right? It takes one. It's like, you know in the airplane, they say, first put oxygen yourself and then help others. So I can't.

[Moses]

Beautiful.

[Trish]

Yeah, that is.

[Oscar]

You can't help anyone if you're not okay in a good place.

[Trish]

You do that. You put the life mask on first. I love that so much. C.J. shane getting ripped.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Men's Health Aloe. Did you see the new Al commercial on the aloe yacht? It was a parody on. We called to this place for magic. He did. Like, we come to this place to get ripped. Everyone's talking about my body. I was like, damn. His little fitness makeover really is getting him everywhere.

[Moses]

Yeah, I'm very nervous. I'm Nervous for Jake Shane.

[Trish]

Yeah, once you get hot, nobody wants to see a six packs be funny.

[Moses]

No. And no.

[Trish]

I'm just kidding. You look great, Jake.

[Moses]

No, he looks great. And obviously I feel like you must be. You're doing it. He's doing it for himself. And I think, Yeah, I really, I think when you are. When you have been unconventionally attractive for a long time to get like traditional, traditionally, like strong and yeah. Have abs and stuff, like, it is very validating. But my marketing brain is like, I already. The gays. I get so many like shady gay tick tocks being like, who cares about Jake Shane? Only like, I'm scared to say it because of the. Those straight women don't play about Jake Shane. But he's annoying. Like, they're already turning. So then I'm like, okay, so now you're losing the male audience. So his audience right now is like all women. So I'm like, so are you getting ripped just for the women? Because the women don't really care if you're ripped. I don't think I do.

[Trish]

I like you better when you're more attractive. Well, maybe also because I also was. Am. You know, I'm not an Alex Earl if you say. You know what I mean. But I do. Like, like you said, when the underdogs get to be a little hot because it's a little inspiring, I'm kind of like, oh, that's gonna be me, actually. I'm gonna be on the Aloe yacht in Croatia. Wherever he was doing that. Like, it's kind of, it's kind of inspiring. I think it is for the middle aged women such as myself. We're glued to it. But you're right, if you lose the gays, I mean, you really got to keep them. What's this audience that for a minute,

[Moses]

I think it's predominantly girls, probably similar to me where it's like girls for the most part. But then like, you know, you have the gays in there as well, but the gays are really turning on him, I think because same with like a Chris Olsen, like you have abs and then also you're too successful that you're friends with too many girls. You're too, you're too everywhere you're famous, you are successful, you have opportunities, you have a lot of famous friends, you're getting paparazzi. Then you have like too much flying too close to the side.

[Trish]

I see, I see you're right. Yes. I guess Jake, I would say tone it down, but I like you.

[Moses]

I think at least Having the girl, the girly audience. Like, he'll be fine. He'll definitely be okay. Just tread lightly. Don't get too hot, you know, like what?

[Trish]

Like a little.

[Moses]

I think if he got like too like plastic surgery or something thing, then it would be nuts.

[Trish]

Right? Right. Yeah, don't do that. That's gonna be. He looks good. I saw him. I saw an interview where he was talking about how he hates being short. And someone's like, oh, you're not sure, but he's like, I'm five three. God, who is he talking to? And you could tell it actually really bothered him, which I was like kind of surprised. And then the comments were like really sweet because it was all the girly pops being like, we love a short king and stuff like that.

[Moses]

Gays don't.

[Trish]

But yeah, I think that's what I know. Was he talking with. He must have been talking with a gay guy because it was. It was very much like, you're not little or whatever and like. Oh, no, no. Would you do. You were the short king.

[Moses]

Me and Darian is short too. But I think traditionally like, no, you're not sure.

[Trish]

But you're with a short.

[Moses]

I. Well, I'm considered short like by other gay scenes.

[Trish]

I swear. What are you? You're 5 10.

[Moses]

No, no, Jimmy's like 5 11.

[Oscar]

What are you?

[Moses]

I'm like 5 7, 5 8. Wow.

[Trish]

Can you see how tall Darren is? I can.

[Moses]

He's five' five.

[Trish]

Oh, okay. Well, to me that's not like short short. I don't think that's.

[Moses]

I'm considered short and gay stand really. I'm considered like teeny tiny.

[Trish]

And they don't. And gays don't like short guys.

[Moses]

I thought they did. They like. I mean, for traditionally they like big.

[Trish]

Cuz it's a big thing now with hetero girls to be. Which they call them short kings. It's like Abby Herbert, she's with Josh, who's like a little short king. And it's kind of like a kind of thing. Who is Zendaya with Tom Holland?

[Moses]

Short king. Yeah.

[Trish]

I think it's kind of cute.

[Moses]

I think it's cute. I don't really have that much of a preference, but. But traditionally. And I think especially when you're shorter, you feel it. Like when you're shorter. I always felt it. I'm like, damn, I'm so short. Everyone is passing on me because I'm too short.

[Trish]

I think it's an insecurity thing. I think when girls like, I need someone six Foot. That was always me. My gender profile was only like if you're not about 6 foot, I don't talk to you. But I think it's because I want to feel tiny. And so I obviously can't be with someone that's five foot three because I would feel like I would squash them. Even most of my metam was like 170 pounds. I'm like, I'm gonna crush you. Like I can't. You know what I mean? Like, like that's. I'm always just skinny people though. I don't know what it is. I don't and I don't. Not usually a preference for me because I don't want to feel humongous. My goal in life, people ask me what my weight goal is. Like I just want to be like a little, a little smaller than Moses. That's it. I just want to be like a couple pounds smaller. That's it. Because you don't want to feel like you're gonna crush your partner. But maybe the partner's like that. I don't know, maybe that's why they're into it. But I, I think, I think it's an insecurity thing because I used to always like tall guys too. I mean it was pretty tall. But like I think you want to feel tiny. So maybe gay guys like that, maybe they want to feel small. But isn't someone like. Someone has to be like the big spoon.

[Moses]

Yeah. Tea.

[Trish]

So I guess they just don't. They want someone even bigger. I don't know. People are. But all my tall gay people I've dated or like just people I know, they like always like shorter. Like I can think of a couple tall guys I've dated that were gay and they always liked really short men because they like the tiny. They want to. How memory it gets too personal. It's just not who you would think. Right. Like it's like usually the larger one would be on top, me being the larger. But you know, it's not always or I'd be on larger one. Larger ones are usually on bottoms. When it's gays. I'm trying to think if you're, if you're like tall, they're usually bottoms. Can I say that? Because it's the opposite of what you think. Right? You think like a six footer with a five foot two can king would be given it. But I think they're taking it the six foot. I know they are. Actually I have in depth conversations about this.

[Moses]

Interesting.

[Trish]

Have you had that? Well, you don't have to say it when you're experience. But I will say same with me, right? Like you would expect the big one to just be there like this and just. I would be taking it or whatever way you take it. But I like to, I like to get on. I like to get on top. Am I the big one or am I the little one? I don't even know in this relationship. I'm larger. But you're taller. So now I'm confused because I'm thinking gay relationship, 6 foot and 5 2. But I don't know. Anyways, whatever. Nobody really cares.

[Oscar]

You know when you see.

[Moses]

So you're asking if Jake Shane's a top? Is that what you're asking?

[Oscar]

No, but you know what you see?

[Trish]

No, I'm just saying the little, little ones are usually they are, they're the thrusters.

[Oscar]

But you know when you see sometimes dogs on the street and there's a really tall dog and there's a little one trying to jump not white and get. And this just physically can't.

[Trish]

Oh, the little one's trying to get on top of the big one. But that's kind of the challenge.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Is what I've heard. Especially I've heard.

[Moses]

I mean, I guess I've heard a lot of things. I've heard both. I've heard both situations. Sometimes it's a meme where it's like how you 6 foot 2 in a bottom because like, you're so big.

[Trish]

They all are. They all are. And I've been friends with so many 6 foot 2 gays. And I like, they're so hot. You're just, damn, you're so hot. And then like, you want to date them, you want to hook up with them and they're just like, well, you don't have anything that can penetrate me. I'm like, well, okay, I know. I didn't know. I didn't know. But now I know. I've learned it. That's what I'm saying. I have years of experience of going after six foot two gays and just realizing it wouldn't work. Teach their own. It's offensive to. You can't ask people if they're attached to bottoms. It is offensive. But I'm just saying I know from. I don't know. I want generalize about bottoms. Right? Because everyone's versed at the end of the day. Everyone's verse. Yeah, I try when I'm athletic, when I'm in my Pilates era, I'm like, oh, my turn. You know what I mean? Just for a little bit. And then I'm like, okay, I'm tired. Anyways, that's the sex conversation on that. All to say, Jake, you look great. I love the new Alo commercial. I love that brands are doing like full blown commercials with people. Like it's not. No longer just like a little. What do they call them? Ugc.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trish]

It's like we're gonna do full on

[Moses]

production of crew production. Yeah.

[Trish]

Like our Arby's one. Like the Alo. Like, it's very. It looks good. They look like TV commercials. And it's always crazy because you put like our Arby's when we put so much like work into it. It's like, damn, this should be on like Hulu or something because it looks so nice. And they need to do that with this Alan one because it was the yacht they were on. They were shooting a commercial.

[Moses]

But that makes a lot of sense.

[Trish]

And he did look. He did look good, honestly. I guess at the risk of losing your audience, you should just get fit. I'm trying. I'm about to do a marathon weightlifting competition. Really into weights these days.

[Moses]

How much are you lifting?

[Trish]

I don't know. My trainer puts a little thing down here and there because I had a free session at my gym. Like, you really should use your training sesh. And I was like. Because I'm trying to get like Zac Efron arms in High School Musical.

[Moses]

Okay, Word.

[Trish]

And so I was like, how do I get those arms? And my teacher maybe you should have a trainer you should go with. And I was like, okay. So I've done like three training sessions and I feel like I'm really into weights. I don't think I lift much. I think I like five blocks down.

[Moses]

Okay, five blocks. What does that mean?

[Trish]

Five holes? There's a top hole and then there's like the five holes down and the

[Moses]

plates on the machine.

[Trish]

Yeah, I think I have five holes.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trish]

Is that £50? I have no idea.

[Moses]

No, I mean, it's different for every machine.

[Trish]

Like Pilates. I was only doing like the three pound dumbbells. But I think I'm like. Because I. I had her film me doing like a. An attempt to do a pull up.

[Moses]

Oh, pull up.

[Trish]

Yeah. But I couldn't. I couldn't even do one. So I was. I'm gonna do a little progress. I'm gonna show myself like every day. My goal is to do, do like two pull ups. That's fierce, you know?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

For when we do our track and field day I think that'll be really fun. I was thinking about track and field, but that's like, oh, that's why the marathon, I think will be easier, because then it's already, like, set up for us because no one has time to do the track. Would love to. Unless you're a gym teacher. I'll put it out again. If you're a high school gym teacher in the Conejo Valley, that can set it up for us. We'll be there. Other than that, I don't think anyone has time to get it together, but I'm down to do it. Maybe you never know who's watching. Maybe there's a principal out there. Yeah, I always get, like, at the shows and stuff, people like, I'm a lawyer. I was like, oh, my God, that's crazy. So you just never know who's watching.

[Moses]

Did you see the fight that broke out of the Hillary Duff concert?

[Trish]

I Did you know that was Brooke

[Moses]

Schofield fighting on the floor?

[Trish]

No.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

I really wanted to get you.

[Trish]

Who said it? Who said that? I didn't even see it.

[Moses]

I just saw Brooke Schofield at the Hillary Dove concert and was she. Yes. And then I saw the fight happen on the floor, the Hillary Dove concert, and was like, I'm going to spread a rumor that it was Brooks Go.

[Trish]

Oh, you're starting the rumor.

[Moses]

Because, you know, she do be getting in fights at the Kia Forum whenever.

[Trish]

What was that? Someone did start that rumor.

[Moses]

Gracie Abrams. She.

[Trish]

And she wasn't there even, right?

[Moses]

She was there, but a girl posted a TikTok. Not a TikToker, just a girl who has a TikTok posted that Brooke Schofield shoved her at the Gracie Abrams concert, like, physically assaulted her. And then, like the evidence of other concert goers videos just kind of showed Brooke, like, in the background, not like, physical. So I'm like, let me reheat those.

[Trish]

Not who is she fighting? Because I saw Gigi Gordes was there. I saw la. Demi was there. All the girls around was there.

[Moses]

Demi Lovato.

[Trish]

Oh, just in the crowd.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Wow. That was, like, star studded.

[Moses]

I know. I had FOMO because I actually love Hillary's new music and old music and really wanted to go. But you did want to go. I did. But that's a track and a commitment to go to arena tour. Yeah.

[Trish]

She's another hope core because she's another one who gives very much like me. Who gives. Just, you know, kind of just. We're strutting on a stage. We're not giving so much show performance. It's giving minimal. But also at Maximal arena two nights in a row is like inspiring.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah. She's just like jeans.

[Trish]

Yes.

[Moses]

The set decorate the set decor like, you know, a sofa, some confetti falling beach balls in the audience. Like that's a vibe.

[Trish]

I love it. Cuz I'm. I'm like, wow, you really serious dial just like running up a hill and down a hill and doing the most. And it's just like she and people flying in cars.

[Moses]

Ariane of getting resurrected into the top of the. The ceiling or whatever. And then Hillary's just like she's bopping on the sofa. I'm like, that's fierce. But we love it.

[Trish]

I do love it as a minimal effort. Girly. I also appreciate that too. I do get invited and I, I didn't either because it is just. It's just a lot. As I'm trying to gear up for my romance endeavor, I'm just like, am I gonna make it?

[Moses]

I don't know. I need like a long time to prepare. That's why I do like when I like get a ticket ticket, there's either like there's two cases where I get a ticket like a year in advance and I have like the mental preparation like cats out. You got me Cat's eye for my birthday at 6 months. I was like, I know this is coming or like a last minute ticket. But I in my head I know I'm gonna go at some point and I'm like, let me just figure out how I get that ticket later on. Like Olivia Rigo. I'm like, I'm gonna be there. I just have to figure out how.

[Trish]

I thought you were going with.

[Moses]

Oh yeah, I got invited by Anna Collins. But like even when it was just announced, I was like, I'm gonna be there. Like, like I know in January, one of those days, I'm going to be seeing Olivia.

[Trish]

I see.

[Moses]

But I just don't have the means right this second. But I'll figure it out later on.

[Trish]

Yes.

[Moses]

But a last minute invitation like, hey, you want to come? I'm like, I needed like days to mentally prepare.

[Trish]

I'm the same way. That's how it was last year when MCR was in town. Everyone's like, do you want to come today?

[Moses]

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[Trish]

And that sounds absolutely delicious.

[Moses]

Fuel to start.

[Trish]

Whatever's next.

[Moses]

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[Trish]

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[Moses]

You're so right.

[Trish]

I'm not gonna get invited by anyone. Like, last year, it was like, caa, Warner Music. Like, all these people. Justin Horowitz. Like, everyone's like, come see mcr. And now that I'm available, I don't know if I'm gonna be getting. That always seems to happen. It's like, oh, now I'm available. It's kind of like tour. Last year, I was like, oh, come host the Grammys. Red carpet. Come most Oscars. And the show, like, I'm available. It's like, nothing. So I don't know. I could just buy a ticket, which, I mean, I'm not opposed to. It's a Hollywood Bowl. I just think that's, like, a lot.

[Moses]

Yeah. Because you got to take a bus or something. You gotta park and you gotta take a bus.

[Trish]

Yes. There's a big ass.

[Moses]

There's a lot of steps. Yeah.

[Trish]

And I gotta go. But I don't know how maybe someone could just, like, lift me up on their shoulders or something, because I just think, like, that walking. I think I'm running a marathon. What am I talking about?

[Moses]

Oh, yes, you're in your fitness. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trish]

All right. We'll figure it out. I don't know. It's coming soon, but.

[Moses]

And no one knows, like, what exactly led to the fight. TMZ did attempt to investigate and reach out to, like, lapd, even to get to the bott of how this fight broke out.

[Trish]

But it didn't look too crazy.

[Moses]

Some hair pulling. It is just like, the concept of, like, getting into a fist fight in, like, a sparkly crop top while what dreams are made of is playing is kind of.

[Trish]

Oh, was Hillary performing?

[Moses]

I don't think she. She was really, but the in the tick tock. They added what dreams are made of, like, as the audio. And I'm like, this is funny.

[Trish]

Stuff like that makes me go to concerts.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you do see musicians. So there are musicians on the stage who would.

[Trish]

Fighting about. Yeah. What's. That's.

[Moses]

I know, because it's not even like a pit situation. Like, you have a seat. Right, so what exactly could have incited this? Maybe, like, maybe she threw, like, something in the audience and they were fighting over, like, who gets to keep it. Maybe. I don't know.

[Trish]

Ah, yeah, it scares me. That's what scares me about concert. It's like. What do you mean? There's just, like, random fights breaking out. You know what I mean? That's kind of scary. And at a Hillary Duff concert above everything else.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

If you can't go to a Hilary Duff concert, where the hell can you go? Like, that's the. The last place I would think.

[Trish]

Oh, my gosh. I wonder if Hillary saw it.

[Moses]

She must have seen it after the fact, right? Like, she must have. It's on tmz. If it's on tmz, though. Like, someone's showing it to her.

[Trish]

Who filmed it? Who sold it to tmz?

[Moses]

It. They didn't buy it. It was just like, someone tweeted it. A fan. Whoever was there posted the file, which is so funny.

[Trish]

And then it went viral on Twitter.

[Moses]

Yeah. Yeah. I think this. The concept of it being at a Hillary Dove concert. But millennials are scrappy. Don't mess around with millennials.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trish]

I think we're just, like, sad. I think a lot of people are sad. I think it's also just like. Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna say it's probably a younger millennial. I'm gonna say they're like, the ones your age are usually a little more scrappier because they're kind of like, not a girl, not yet a woman. They don't know what they're doing in life. You know what I mean? They're kind of like, I'm still a kid, but I'm 32, so I'm not. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

So real.

[Trish]

That is your era of 30s, that is. And that's everyone like that. I'm like, okay, but you're 32 now, so, like, get it together. It was cute when you're 27, but yeah, that's fine, though. I mean, our millennials have our own issues.

[Moses]

Yeah. That is so funny.

[Trish]

The cringe aspect. We're cringy. You're never see I don't think I've

[Moses]

ever seen a real fight. I know. There was also a fight at an Ariana Grande concert last week, too.

[Trish]

What?

[Moses]

And this one was when she was singing Break Free, specifically because you could. It was like, a higher up, and you could see Ariana. Ariana performing Break Free.

[Trish]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

As these people were, like, fighting. And that was kind of fierce to me, too, because, like, the concept of fighting during Break Free, like, that's also a whole other thing. But I guess with concerts you like, it's so much anticipation, so much money. It's like you're waiting there a long time. You get the early long lines, so emotions are heightened. For sure.

[Trish]

That's true. Oh, for sure. I'm definitely cranky. Whenever we're even. When we go see, like, a Vegas show, it's like, if I'm in heels and I have to walk through the casino, I'm always cranky. I'm always like, do you want something to drink? No, I just want to say I just got in my seat. I just want to sit. Like, I can be a little irritated too.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

I've never seen a fight. If I saw a fight in real life, I would definitely be running. I would definitely run. Yeah.

[Moses]

Oh, I. I would.

[Trish]

You would watch.

[Moses]

I'd be recording.

[Trish]

What if you get thrown into it fierce?

[Moses]

I mean, depending on who the. Like, I had to read Duff concert. I can handle myself. You know what I mean? But.

[Trish]

But with girls pulling their hair, and all of a sudden they drag you in, Someone starts dragging you in, what are you gonna do?

[Moses]

It depends. Like, it's very situational. It depends on who my opponents are, you know? I mean, I'm looking up and down. I'm clocking who's. Who's stepping up to the ring, and then we'll see what happens.

[Trish]

You know? What you never see, now that I'm looking at you, is people with glasses getting into fights. Because how do. How does that work?

[Moses]

It is so funny that you say that, because I think about that all the time. Yeah, I. I'm not. I am a little confrontational at times, and I can get a little fierce with it. But that is a weakness of mine. Like, I'm really easy to incapacitate because if you just, like, take off your

[Trish]

glasses, I'm kind of.

[Moses]

I'm just swinging. Bl me. I mean, great. I will still be swinging for sure, but, like, I can't see where I'm heading.

[Trish]

Yeah, it's kind of not fair. It's kind of like Damn. You can't fight someone with glasses. It's kind of like not right.

[Moses]

Yeah. Even like if you push them in, like my nose guards are all askew. Like you could really just like, I'm kind of easy to take out.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

That way. But like I'm. Even if I'm blinded. Very Velma Tease. Like kind of looking on the floor. But that's me. But just like swinging. Jinkies. Wearing my glasses. But like I'm still swinging, you know, so that's kind of my tea.

[Trish]

We'll just don't get into fights then.

[Moses]

Can't make any promises. If I'm, you know, at the Living Room, the concert. Me fighting like a 12 year old. Luckily all the concerts I go to are like little girls. Never any.

[Trish]

Yeah, that's true.

[Moses]

If I'm at the Madonna concert and there's, you know, other millennial gays, like

[Trish]

that could be, you know what the most millennial gays I've ever seen. I loved it. I don't. I mean, there might have been three girls there. And all the rest millennial gays was Lily Allen. She had just middle aged gays. And I, I felt so safe. I felt so at home with all them. I'm like, wow, this is great. I was crazy. I love that because they were just all so chill. She's another one that showed an arena tour now and she's like, literally, she doesn't ever talk to. I think we talked about this already. But she didn't talk to the crowd at all. She just kind of like sings and vibes and like, thanks. Goes away after 55 minutes. I mean, I love it. Like, I do love it. I know people are like, they should talk to the crowd and stuff like that. But.

[Oscar]

But the whole show was a storytelling. The whole show. She was talking to the crowd, like telling her story in a form.

[Trish]

But even when they don't do that, some people just never talk. They just only sing Dolly talks. But there, there have been people I've seen where they just sing the whole

[Oscar]

time because hers was almost like a Broadway show.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like you don't break character or break out of the show.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

But it was. Everything was timed perfectly.

[Trish]

Like I liked her audience. I mean, it literally was everyone we met very mature.

[Oscar]

They were very professional and mature.

[Trish]

We saw Terrence Bowen. Yang was there, Ryan from CA was there. It was just like everyone that I loved. I was like, wow, this is very exciting. It's a good crowd. I like that crowd. Yeah. We go to Vegas shows where they're like 80. So we definitely won't be getting to fist fights there. They never do fight, huh? Like Donnie Osman. That crowd is very nice. They're always so sweet.

[Oscar]

They can get feisty, though, about Donnie.

[Trish]

Really? You think? No. Everyone's been so nice to us when

[Oscar]

we go, they're always like, oh, no, not to us. Yeah. But to each other. They want the picture or to get closer to you.

[Trish]

I mean, I've never seen a feisty fan. Fan, but we love. We love it.

[Moses]

Other toy drama is with Madison Beer. People have been making fun of her concert prices. She's currently on tour, and the tickets range from, like $7 to $16 for some of her performances.

[Trish]

Wait, why did we find a bit that's so good.

[Moses]

That's what I'm saying.

[Trish]

What are you talking about? That's a deal.

[Moses]

I know. In the this day and age of concert tickets being inaccessible, like, let's celebrate that. Like, let's celebrate a low concert ticket.

[Trish]

I thought you were saying because everyone's so mad. Everyone's so expensive. Hillary died. They're like, she's so expensive. Well, that's amazing. How is she touring? That's crazy. $7. $7?

[Moses]

Yeah. She's doing big show. Like, she's doing arenas and stuff too. And I think it's great. Like, she did the Kia 4 and she is selling out. Like, it's not like she's playing to empty venues. Like, she's been selling out most of her smart.

[Trish]

Actually, I would do that. I would do like, a $7 ticket for an arena. That's kind of fun.

[Moses]

But on Stan Twitter, it's been used against her with tweets such as, should I see Madison Beer or go to Taco Bell? It's like, people. I mean, so many.

[Trish]

You're getting a show. No, do both, actually. You're probably bougie enough.

[Moses]

And there's been some articles written about her too, from, like, the Daily Mail, in the New York Post or whatever, making fun of her ticket prices. But again, I think when so many ticket prices are so astronomical, I think it's great.

[Trish]

Yeah, I think it's like, if you can do it. I feel like some people just, like, can't do it because then you can't, like, pay. But I guess if we're doing arenas, maybe it would still be worth it. I would 100% do that. Very Deborah Vance. Very, like, free show at Madison Square Garden, you know, just so you could say you played the Kia Forum.

[Moses]

Yeah. And there honestly is, like, no shame. I think if you, like, say, if you are selling an arena that's a lot of seats, obviously it's a lot of people that come.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And if it's slower to sell and you. Yeah. If you can price the tickets at something more affordable. $16. Why the hell not?

[Trish]

Who she. And she's doing by herself for the show. No opener.

[Moses]

Yeah, she's like the headliner. She's her own headliner.

[Trish]

I'm gonna do this now. That's gonna be an idea. I wonder how you do that. I wonder if that's even possible. Okay, I'm gonna ask seven dollar tickets.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

I feel like I could fill up an arena for $7 because it is expensive. Like, when I do my shows too, like, I just. I always realize that, like, it is expensive, we do a cap on prices. But to make sense, the amount of people you bring and all that stuff like that, like, you do have to like, charge a certain amount, but they're expensive. That's why when people come to my shows, I'm always gagged. I'm always like, damn, thanks for much. Because it's. It's not. Yeah, it's not cheap to go out. $7, $16. That's pretty. That's pretty cheap. I would. I would go see anyone for that.

[Moses]

Yeah, because I mean, like, who's playing a Q4? Okay. So if I'm gonna see Cat's Eye there in arena tour, I think that ticket was like $450. So.

[Trish]

Yeah, the comparison, Lady Gaga was like 3,000. I think that was insane.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

So I'm gonna go see Madison Beard. When she playing.

[Moses]

She already sold out the form. She was here already.

[Trish]

Period.

[Oscar]

Period.

[Trish]

That's insane. So where's she playing next?

[Moses]

She, like, she has a few days left. Yeah. I think she's gonna be like, in Texas and in the south and like in the Midwest, I think.

[Trish]

Wow. Yeah.

[Moses]

But Madison, keep it up. She's been getting a lot of like, random shade though. Like, she's had a lot of debacles during her tour where, like, they're. She has to like, yell at their security guards at the show to like, help a fan or whatever.

[Trish]

Oh, I have seen that. Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah. And then someone was like, oh, I think it's fake. I think. I think she's just doing it for attention or whatever. I'm like, oh, my God, why is everyone on her ass off the set?

[Trish]

She always gets those. Well, it's been like that for a while. I do think it's like, she is very pretty. So I feel like, sometimes it's that. I mean. Well, yeah, me personally, I mean, she's run safe dope bricks. I'm like, other than that, like, I don't know. Maybe because she's pretty and I don't know. You know, she's always had one of those personalities that people don't vibe with. You know what I mean? Like, with the. I was so scared. I finally saw the clip of the. I think we talked about last Hot topics of the Bachelorette producer or Bachelor producer. It was giving that same energy when

[Moses]

she was supposed to be the Bachelorette.

[Trish]

Yeah. I'm like, wow. He called. And I was like, well, that's crazy. And I was like, would you ever want to be the Bachelor? I was like, girl, no, this is not real. It was giving that same energy. So I think she has one of those personalities that's, like, hard of. That people don't like that. Hard to vibe with. Maybe too pretty and friends with David Dobrik. Probably three strikes against her. She seems nice. I don't know her, but she seems nice.

[Moses]

She does seem nice.

[Trish]

And she seems like, you know, she's still there. She's been doing music a long time. Nessa Barrett, too. Nessa Barrett, just like, people, like, do music and they just never stop.

[Moses]

I know. Kudos, mama. Kudos for all she's been doing. She's still singing.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

I think that's fierce.

[Trish]

I'm surprised Madison Beer never popped off mainstream.

[Moses]

I'm surprised, too, that she hasn't had, like, a huge, huge moment yet. I know people always, like, analyze her to figure out, like, what it is like. I think branding is so important when you're, like, a pop. A main pop girly. Like, I always use our Larson now as an example. Or like, Panthers. Like, once you figure out how you can be, like, identified, like, there if there's, like, a color palette or, like, symbols and you can be identified without even having your face. Like, if I see or like, a sunset and a dolphin, I'm like, oh, Zara.

[Trish]

Yes. Yes. You know, 100.

[Moses]

I think once you have that kind of figured out, right. And the music is also good. Is hidden, then you can be like a main pop girl. And then I fear Madison kind of has, like, the pinup coquette kind of aesthetic that Sabrina really has right now. And I in that lane. I don't know. I think some. The branding is, like, a little too similar to Sabrina.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

She has been compared to, like, Ariana a lot in the past too. So I think she's just a little Too similar, maybe to Ariana. A little too similar. Similar to Sabrina, but I. She's so talented and she puts on a really good show. Like all the clips I've seen. Like, she sings great. Performance is great.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Stage is great.

[Trish]

I don't know one of her songs though. Can you tell me a song that

[Moses]

was like, I love Bittersweet.

[Trish]

How's it go?

[Moses]

So still bittersweet. Baby now I'm just bittersweet hey, that was beautiful.

[Trish]

Don't know what that. Never heard of it. I think. Yeah. I feel like she had like a Max Martin, like an Addison Rae team behind her to get some hits maybe. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

That's a good point. I did forget about it because it's just not of it all. Yeah.

[Trish]

Catchy. Like I don't know any songs, so they're just like not catchy songs maybe enough.

[Moses]

Yeah, she does. She needs like a hit. I think if she just gets like the right producer and stuff and like, that's a real like espresso. Yeah, she kind of just needs that one, like, breakthrough moment.

[Trish]

But you're right about the look too. I think it's like so many girls look like that and that. And she's been around for a while, so she might be an originator.

[Moses]

But yeah, because she has been doing that, like that kind of aesthetic before Sabrina started doing it. Technically, like when Sabrina started doing it, maybe like 2020. I mean, with espresso. Really? So like three. 20, 24.

[Trish]

Recent.

[Moses]

Yeah. Compared to Madison's been doing it for a while, so.

[Trish]

Oof. That's always the worst when, like, you were doing it. First someone comes along, does it better. Like that was my style.

[Moses]

But I believe in her. I think she can definitely sell every moment. And she has like a hot, like football player boyfriend now, so she's really one life. Yeah.

[Trish]

She's doing just a wag.

[Moses]

Yes. Sold out shows and. Yeah, and a wag. So she's doing just fine.

[Trish]

As I felt when Meg Stelter became a pop star. It's like, damn. That really was what I was trying to give. And she just gave.

[Moses]

America sees.

[Trish]

Yeah, prettiest. Like she wears her hair like this and I felt exactly like my salter was this way. Come on. I was like, I'm the prettiest girl in America. I'm a prettiest girl. I love. I do love her. I'm a little salty. I guess. I wasn't asked to be on the remix of Pretty Girl in America.

[Moses]

I am.

[Trish]

I mean, I love vanilla. We love Her.

[Moses]

I hate to say it. I hate to be ridiculous. I hate to say it. Vanilla, Vanilla. Mace tour. Yeah, on that verse I'm pretty scrolling. But guess what? There's room for all the pop girlies. I'm sure maybe we'll need another feature. Maybe on Burr or another song.

[Trish]

I will feature on anything, anytime. As we know from Twink and a redhead. I'm happy to be on any feature. I was pretty Scroll America. That would have been a bomb one to fit on but.

[Oscar]

Well, she's probably the next one is the universe, so she's probably keeping you for.

[Trish]

Oh, there's a sequel for a bigger shell. She's so cool.

[Moses]

I love that pretty girl.

[Trish]

People did say that the TikTok comments. I did pretty squirrel girl in America. Like no, you're the prettiest girl in the world.

[Oscar]

To be the world. To be the universe. I think it's going to keep going.

[Trish]

Oh, right. Is world and universe the same thing?

[Oscar]

Our world is in the universe.

[Trish]

Our world is in the universe. What is our world?

[Oscar]

Planet Earth.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Just one planet.

[Trish]

But wouldn't you consider the other planets in our world?

[Moses]

No, they're not. I would consider them in our universe.

[Trish]

So God just created our world and who created the universe?

[Moses]

I mean, the big. It depends on what you believe in, mama. The Big Bang.

[Trish]

There's a bigger bang. God.

[Moses]

Well, I think from my days in. In Catholic school, I believe they taught us God just created everything. So all the other planets as well would be.

[Trish]

Well, they say God has the whole world in his hands, so the world would then be the universe. He wouldn't just have Earth and leave the other planets that he created out of it.

[Moses]

The Catholics or Christians over there on Jupiter, I'm sure they're saying the same thing, you know.

[Trish]

Do you think there's life over there?

[Moses]

There's life somewhere in Jupiter. I don't know if Jupiter specifically, but Mars, they say. Mars.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trish]

They found like water over there or something like that.

[Moses]

Yeah, kind of like Project Hail Mary Tease. You know that movie?

[Trish]

No, which one?

[Moses]

It's coming to streaming this week.

[Trish]

Oh, okay. We can finally watch some ones that stream like Obsession. I really do want to watch that. We can watch that one stream.

[Moses]

Obsession is going to be on Peacock. Yeah.

[Trish]

Oh, we had. We do have that.

[Moses]

Is Moana out the live action in theaters? Yes, now it sure is.

[Oscar]

Oh yeah, because they had. How much? 95 million or.

[Trish]

That's good, right? Well, no, it's not good.

[Oscar]

I'm sure they put a lot of money into it.

[Moses]

Yeah, the budget was 250 million before marketing. And

[Oscar]

there was a lot of marketing.

[Moses]

A lot of marketing. Yeah. I made 43 million in North America, but, yeah, probably global night, around 90 million.

[Trish]

Oh, damn.

[Moses]

So it was a. It came out around the same as Snow White with a Rachel Zegler one, if that means anything.

[Trish]

Damn, those are both bops. Well, I blame Galado for that one because that was horrible acting. But I can't wait to see Moana. I've been obsessed. That one's out. Odyssey's this weekend.

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trish]

Are you gonna see tonight, Max?

[Moses]

Yeah, I'm seeing an IMAX and also Dolby, apparently, so.

[Trish]

Twice you're gonna see it?

[Moses]

Allegedly. It's in my AMCA list. It is booked for twice if I see it. I honestly, I do want to see it twice because the races have me pissed off. People are so, so awful because Lupita Nyong' o is cast as Athena. She's playing one of the Greek gods or goddesses, and everyone's like, she's supposed to be portrayed as, like, a white woman.

[Trish]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

And Zendaya is like Athena in the. Like, she's supposed to be white, too. They're more mad about Lupita because I think she's darker complexion.

[Trish]

Jesus.

[Moses]

It honestly pisses me off so bad that, like, you know what? Even if I hate that damn movie, I will sit through it over and over again because y' all have really pissed me off.

[Trish]

People are so crazy. What is the world. It's, like, insane.

[Moses]

Is it really? It's like, it's not realist mythology, honey. Like, none of this is really that. Like.

[Trish]

Yeah, none of them existed.

[Moses]

If it was a historical piece of fiction, you think they would look like Tom Holland? Like, perfectly groomed looking, gorgeous face. Snatch eyebrows. Perfect waxed eggs.

[Trish]

You know, that hair, period.

[Moses]

You're so right.

[Trish]

There was no shavers back then. Razors. Yeah, exactly.

[Moses]

Like, let it go.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, it's.

[Trish]

People just love to be angry. God, that's so sad. Oh, my God, I hate it. You know, I want to see it. It does look good. I just think that there's so many people in this cast. I'm like, oh. And everyone keeps saying it's like the movie to see. Like, it's the best movie. Yeah.

[Moses]

The Christopher Nolan of it all. What the hell? Sure, I'll be using a file just to piss off. Summary says 100.

[Trish]

Yeah, for sure. People are weird.

[Moses]

It made me a little sick.

[Trish]

So anyway, is Medusa in it?

[Moses]

You know what? I have no idea. But maybe I love to Greek.

[Trish]

I had an era of like Greek mythology that I was like really into it for a minute. Did you?

[Moses]

That makes sense for you. I did sixth grade or you learned about it once. Either fourth grade or sixth grade. I had a friend who I think I love X Men growing up and Greek gods kind of reminded me of X Men because they all had like powers.

[Trish]

Oh yes.

[Moses]

And especially if they like looked fierce in like the art. Art or whatever. So my favorite was Artemis because she was like a hair laid. She had a bow and arrow. Very kind of.

[Trish]

Oh yeah. And also the.

[Moses]

Why. Like she was the goddess of the moon and wildlife.

[Trish]

You only like the goddesses? No gods. You were not a Zeus fan? No, it was confusing. Like, who was Zeus and what. Because I would learn about Zeus. Greek mythology. Zeus. But then you would see Hercules and Zeus is like his dad and you're just like, what? And then where did Pegasus come from? Like all of a sudden he's with Hercules.

[Moses]

It does get a little confusing. Greek and Roman, similar nicknames, names.

[Trish]

Oh, are they separate?

[Moses]

I think so. Like and same names, but different. Like the goddess or goddesses of different things. It does get a little confusing. Similar language.

[Trish]

Pandora's box.

[Moses]

I don't even know which one that is, but I know the drag queen.

[Trish]

That's all it's giving that. I think Pandora's box was in the ocean. And they're like, don't open it. And if you open it, then all this goes down. Was it at the ocean or was Medusa in the ocean? One of them were in the ocean.

[Moses]

Medusa was a cave, I thought with the snakes. Yeah.

[Trish]

Was the descendants had Medusa's son or something in there. Do you remember he like.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trish]

Or was that Wednesday?

[Moses]

Oh my God, that was Wednesday. That was Wednesday.

[Trish]

And every time they took it off, it was like.

[Moses]

Because they were still Descendants is like villains, Disney villains.

[Trish]

But I think there was a Medusa in Descendants too. See, that's what I'm saying. They cross pollinate. And I'm just like, which one is Disney? Which one is Greek? Which one is Roman? Which one is real? None of them really. There's no Medusa. There's definitely Medusa in another. In another chapter or something. Because the twins gave me Medusa doll.

[Moses]

That is Monster High. Yes.

[Trish]

So once again, just a character that doesn't. It's not even real. And people. It's probably in the Odyssey.

[Moses]

I would not be surprised. Yeah, I didn't read the book. I don't really know much about it. I don't know who anyone is.

[Trish]

Oh, you don't know anything about it.

[Moses]

I only know it Greek mythology. I know the horse, the Trojan horse is somehow involved because it's the popcorn bucket. So I know the Trojan horse is

[Trish]

involved, but that's also Roman. In the movie Troy, right there was like a horse that was brought in. Brad Pit.

[Moses]

And it's probably like a three hour movie.

[Trish]

It's three hours. That's the problem. Cuz I was trying to schedule it after my hemorrhoid surgery. I was like, oh it's 8am let's go see a movie. Cuz we'll have like someone to watch the kids sit on a donut. Three hours. Oh, that's a good point. I guess I was thinking yeah, I was going to go to my side on it. But yeah, maybe a donut of it all. But. But yeah, then I saw three hours. Like well damn, that's like the whole morning.

[Moses]

It's a lot. I'm a little scared for me but.

[Trish]

And I only want to see it in imax. But we don't really have an IMAX close to us. I think Simi Valley is the closest imax.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trish]

There's not one here at our favorite theater. I feel like that's how you have to see it with the water rushing and you would love it. It's a water movie.

[Oscar]

I'm definitely going to love it.

[Moses]

You should see it in the 1, the 4 dx or whatever. That's the one where they squirt and

[Oscar]

they blow the air and they shake you.

[Trish]

Debbie's see I think it's AI but the 5D ones where it's like the water's like rushing at you. And I was like oh my God. I can't think it was real. But I was like this must be. I. I think it gets me with 41. No, absolutely not. I think Tana said she went to go see scary movie in 4D and she didn't know. And she's like I had to leave. Not because the movie but it was like making her nauseous because it was like pushing her around. Adorable ride.

[Moses]

I would love to see you do a.

[Trish]

Have you done one?

[Moses]

I have only done the Batman, the Robert Pattinson one that you hate. That's the only one I've seen.

[Trish]

And how was that?

[Moses]

I thought it was fun because I was on that. What's it called? Bat Cyc.

[Oscar]

Whatever.

[Moses]

It's called the Bat Cycle. The motorcycle thing. When it was the motorcycle scene. It was really moving. And grooving.

[Trish]

I was like, are you straddling it?

[Moses]

Straddling it?

[Trish]

You said they're Batmobiles. Are you like, how are you moving with it?

[Moses]

I'm in my seat, baby, but they're, like, moving me around. Legs crossed.

[Trish]

Yeah. Or this. How are you sitting?

[Moses]

I'm sitting. Regular schmegular. Just like that. Just like in the right window treatments change everything.

[Trish]

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[Moses]

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[Moses]

Yes, but.

[Trish]

And they're moving you like this, huh? Oh, my God. What's the weight limit on there? For me? Not you. I'm just like, how much weight can you move?

[Moses]

Well, it's like a roller coaster. I mean, less intense than a roller coaster, but, like, roller coasters move fatties all the time, so I'm sure the AMC seat is fine. They only can't move you at the roller coaster if you can't be strapped in, but you don't have to be strapped in. And the 40x seats.

[Trish]

Oh, that's what I'm saying. So.

[Moses]

But there's no belt.

[Oscar]

There's no seat belt.

[Trish]

Yeah, there's no seat belt. But that's what I'm saying is, like, can you move? You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

Like, yeah, I think it's subtle. Shakes.

[Moses]

Yeah. Something crazy.

[Trish]

You were going like this.

[Moses]

I mean, I was. It was like tilting.

[Trish]

You're so skinny and it feels like

[Moses]

you're going fast, you know?

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It wasn't. I was doing loop de loops.

[Trish]

I kind of want to try it. I do. Would be nauseous. I think I would probably have to, like, walk out. I wouldn't want things squirting. It's water. I wouldn't like that. That's why the sphere, too. Never. Like, during wizard of Oz, the apples fall on you. I was like, how once that. Like, that sounds awful. Like, none of that sounds good to me. Me. But shout out to all the people who like that. That sounds like my worst nightmare. To be honest, it does not sound like a fun time at all. But I'm excited for the Movies Odyssey and Spider Man.

[Moses]

And in Moana, there was a little controversy over what's his name? Maui. Between Johnson.

[Trish]

Crazy.

[Moses]

He does. He doesn't have nipples. Everyone has kind of been making fun of that now that I. Now that, you know, I feel like you won't be able to unsee it, because I didn't really pay attention either until there was a whole viral, like, tweet about how he doesn't have nipples.

[Trish]

And then what do they do?

[Moses]

I think because he had a bodysuit, like a muscle suit or whatever. And Dwayne the Rock Johnson got asked about, like, why doesn't Maui have nipples? He says it blends in to the, like, the tattoos or the ink on his body.

[Trish]

Okay.

[Moses]

He's like, the areolas are there. But I really zoomed in into the stills, and I think they honestly just forgot to put nipples in there.

[Trish]

Wow. They forget. Are they trying to do nipple eraser?

[Moses]

That's what the theory was originally. Like, oh, it's because it's Disney. They don't want to put nipples in there. But they. They have been nipples or. Yeah, there have been, like, shirtless men in other Disney projects, so that would be random. That Moana is where they draw the line. But look, like, I really zoomed in. There's no nipple.

[Trish]

I mean, I guess I see his point. Like, you probably couldn't see it anyways. I mean, his dark tattoos. Like, was it necessary? Probably not. What is it?

[Oscar]

The.

[Trish]

The skims bra with the nips pointing out? It's like, we don't need it.

[Moses]

I suppose it kind of takes me out of it. I mean. Yes, it does. I mean, I wasn't going to ski anyway, but now I'm definitely not going to.

[Trish]

Why does he have no nipples?

[Moses]

That's so weird.

[Trish]

I feel like you got paid to hate on the movie. I feel like someone's, like, playing in because you are so against it. And it's so. I'm so.

[Moses]

Because I have eyes. I have eyes. So it looks horrible.

[Trish]

So good. It looks so good. I was like, wait, this is, like, giving everything that I want to see in war. And honestly, I like that there's actually no nipples, because if girls can't show their nipples, neither should men. So I'm in support of it.

[Moses]

Quality. I guess that's what he should have said. He should have pivoted that way. That would have, in solidarity, won some brownie points. But just to say that they're there, I'm like, no, they're not there.

[Trish]

I love the.

[Oscar]

Because the Indian animation. He doesn't have them. So I think they were trying to stay.

[Trish]

Oh, really? Yeah. Cause, like, why would you animate. I'm trying to think, like, I'm trying to think of other ones.

[Oscar]

She's tattooed over there. So in theory, right?

[Trish]

You would. It would blend in.

[Oscar]

Could be under the tattoo.

[Trish]

Who else is shirtless in Disney? You said some other people are shirtless. I'm trying to think. They're chest.

[Moses]

Actually have a list in here on a list. Article. Koko and Pocahontas.

[Trish]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses]

Quasimodo and the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

[Trish]

Quasimodo is shirtless.

[Moses]

Have visible nipples.

[Oscar]

Nipples.

[Moses]

But Aladdin and Flynn Rider do not.

[Trish]

You're right. Aladdin is shirtless. No nipples. Yeah. They're kind of unattractive, I suppose. I guess. Yeah. If I could. If I could make a choice, I guess I would.

[Moses]

In live action, though, like, if you're gonna be bringing it to real life, baby, put some nips on. Yeah, put some nips on the.

[Oscar]

On those fake pets or even the tattoo. Just have that description of it, you know?

[Moses]

Yeah. A little circle or something. Something.

[Trish]

I don't know if kids are really being like, where's those nips? You know what I mean? I think it's probably fine, but valid. I think there's valid criticism of Moana. I don't know if the nip conversation is.

[Moses]

It's just another thing going against it.

[Trish]

I fear God. As I was saying, I feel like there's a hate campaign that someone paid to, like, get this. Not probably Christopher Nolan. So I'm going to the Odyssey. He's probably. Let's pay influencers to hate on it.

[Moses]

The Minions are like, let's take down another.

[Trish]

I don't know anyone about talking about the Minions.

[Moses]

That's like all I see. Papui, who is bellow. Mindy, you don't hear all these tick tock sounds. That's all I got. That's all I got.

[Trish]

Never seen one clip of it. Never seen one. Anything of it.

[Moses]

Well, it's doing better than Moana, I'll tell you that much, baby.

[Trish]

That's crazy. Wow. Michael just hit $1 million in, which is great. I got more people to talk about Michael. I. I saw it twice. I haven't seen any other movie in theaters this year, but I saw that movie twice.

[Moses]

You push it over.

[Oscar]

Over.

[Trish]

I think that's why I got to go see Moana. We're going to go 5,000 times. You're into Moana, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah, like, I like it. One of the movies was like Moses's review. It was like the Moses story of the. You know, the ocean. Like the way. Because you remember in the animation, she walks to the water and the water kind of parts in front of her and the water talks to her.

[Trish]

I saw a little bit Moana nachos.

[Oscar]

I really like it.

[Trish]

The Moses nachos on Moana. Oh, so you're not mad that they took your story?

[Oscar]

No, I think the same story is told around the world, and this was a beautiful way to tell it.

[Trish]

Well, if they ever do a live action Moses, I'm gunning for you to get that part. I think that'd be great. Especially the older Moses. When you have your gray hair, you could be like the one.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I'll play the old one.

[Trish]

I'm here for it.

[Moses]

For Moana.

[Trish]

Moses and Moana, both of those. The sequel, Moses meets Moana in the water and they both talk to each other. I love movies. I love movie season. I really like movies. I don't think.

[Moses]

What do you mean?

[Trish]

I don't think I like movies.

[Moses]

Yeah, right, right.

[Trish]

I just really wish I could. I fear I can't eat popcorn anymore. Feel like. I think the two times. You remember last time I felt nauseous. I also had popcorn that day I had the butter noodles. And last night I had butter noodles and popcorn and got nauseous again.

[Moses]

Is it too much butter?

[Trish]

I fear that might be it, because I can eat pasta without the butter. And then, yes, I had the popcorn.

[Oscar]

And any popcorn butter always makes you. I mean.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

From the day I met you, we used to go to movies. She would eat the popcorn, the butter, and then she has, like, sharp pain.

[Moses]

That's true. I. Now that you say it, I remember hearing a lot of. Every time you would bring up stories. Like, I remember you said one time you had to go to the bathroom because you're eating so much butter popcorn.

[Trish]

You're right.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Damn. That's the worst. When you really love a food and you just can't eat anymore. I don't think I can anymore. I think both of those. The butter noodles and that. I don't think it happened anymore.

[Moses]

Well, you with butter popcorn has been a long.

[Trish]

Yes.

[Moses]

Long time.

[Trish]

Yes, yes. Before even a glp.

[Moses]

You want

[Oscar]

butter noodles. There's ways to make them without so much. It's actually just, you know, more Parmesan. Like melting that.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So there's ways to do that.

[Trish]

Okay. I think it was the popcorn both nights were the culprit.

[Oscar]

But we can. Yeah.

[Trish]

Damn. I love butter popcorn. I love it so much.

[Oscar]

Maybe there's something else you can put on a popcorn.

[Trish]

Oh, thank you. I love that oil just dripping in the butter. It is kind of nasty, but it is so good. Good. It's so good. I'm so sad about it. Is any other kids movies coming out? I know. Toy Story. Did you see that one?

[Moses]

No, I didn't see Toy Story.

[Trish]

Is that Disney?

[Moses]

It's Disney. Pixar. No slander really to say about that. I just. Just didn't really capture my attention. And then Spider Man's kind of the last big summer hurrah. Yeah. But. Oh, speaking of butter, I brought a TikTok that annoyed me that I wanted to. To show you.

[Trish]

Okay.

[Moses]

That you can react.

[Trish]

I love. I need to write down ones that annoy me. I swear I find so many that I forget about them. And when I look to the future. There you are. We'll find the way. Okay. Oh, I love. I love. This must be really good if you're showing me.

[Moses]

It's just so annoying and I. This is my new. I keep getting dropped off at Annoying Tik Tok.

[Trish]

I feel like we're on the same one. Okay, let's see. I don't know. I seen her though. Absolutely not. Oh,

[Moses]

I think I'm going to do a cappuccino.

[Trish]

Hot, please.

[Moses]

Hot water

[Trish]

and then is your honey local? I hate her. I hate her. I can ask the br. It's in a syrup.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Trish]

Will you just ask if they have

[Moses]

like a local honey or like something with syrup?

[Trish]

Yeah. I'll be right back.

[Oscar]

Thank you.

[Trish]

Our honey syrup is literally just honey and water.

[Oscar]

Oh.

[Trish]

Oh my God.

[Moses]

Okay. Can I do like a little like.

[Trish]

Yes.

[Moses]

Like one.

[Trish]

Like one.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Thank you for asking. Is the sourdough. Do you know if the sourdough is made in.

[Moses]

Gets so much worse. And what about the hash browns?

[Trish]

Are they made in house? She's making her go back. They are made in house. Yay. Do the holiday. I hate her. Yeah.

[Moses]

But I have another follow up question.

[Trish]

Yes. Kick her out.

[Moses]

Is the house jam?

[Oscar]

That's.

[Trish]

What kind of jam is that? It's grape by.

[Moses]

And that's made in house.

[Trish]

Yes.

[Moses]

And what about your butter?

[Trish]

Stay in house. Stay at your home. Do you know what kind of butter it is? I believe it's. I hate her. And the smiles that she's doing. She's being an on purpose.

[Oscar]

Maybe it's.

[Moses]

I can't believe it's not butter. I'll do our test.

[Trish]

You like the Toast? Yeah. Does it come with that? Yeah. Okay.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Trish]

Will that be all for you?

[Moses]

All right.

[Trish]

Just. I hate it. Girl, stay home. Why are you filming? Why are you being obnoxious? Why are you laughing? I hate that. So that is. That has to be ready. That has to be ready. And it's like, why are you filming? Why are you asking those questions? Why don't you stay home? Is it in house? Is it made here? Like, just stay home.

[Moses]

Is the house jam made in house? Baby, you know what is made in house? The saliva that is going into your food.

[Trish]

Because I was your waiter, I support that in that situation. Because you're being an asshole. You're making her go back and forth. Could you check? Could you do this if you're that pick? And it's also not. It's not even like she's saying, oh, for health reasons. Oh, I can't have this. And I can't. I'm allergic to this. She's literally just being like, ass. Like, if she were to explain, like, I'm, like, really allergic to. I have, like, a really bad gluten thing, and I'll, like, throw up if this doesn't happen. But she's being an asshole. She's laughing about it. I hate it so much. And I hate when people film it, too. And it's like. It's like a worker. It's like someone working, and it's like, you're just being an asshole for no reason. And you know you are, because you're filming it. If you're like, a really real. I. I know some people who are kind of annoying when they go to a restaurant, older people that are not on social media, and they will be like, I can't have this. And I'm. And they just, like, make. I don't know if they're making up what. I'm allergic to this, whatever. But they're, like, not filming it and, like, being an. And being like, let me. She knows she's doing something. That's why she's filming and putting up. Because otherwise, people just. If you're just an annoying person like that, you're just annoying, and you're not letting the whole world know. So she's trying to rage me. I don't know why.

[Oscar]

What she's ordering is like a toast with butter. You literally just stay at home, have your toast and butter.

[Trish]

Butter, sourdough and butter.

[Oscar]

Have you seen. Did you used to watch Portlandia?

[Moses]

Yes.

[Oscar]

So there's that one skit when they go. And they get chicken they're like, where the chicken, like, raised, you know, Were they free range or not? Did they have a good life? Were they happy? And they end up going to the farm.

[Trish]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

And joining a cult. And that's exactly. This person. This person is already in the cold.

[Trish]

Are they just literally ideas get. I know.

[Moses]

I don't know.

[Trish]

This girl looks like she watches. I don't know. She's that cultured with that show. But it's annoying. I hate it. I hate it. Like, that's actually so annoying. This is why, ah, I love TikTok so much. But damn, it really maybe needed to be deleted last year because, like, people are just being menaces to other people for all for the sake of TikTok. Like, what was the point of this? Are you making that much money at the creator fund? What is your life goal? Because you just look like an asshole. You just look awful. Like. And like, I don't know, everything about it actually enraged me. And I'm just like, take those glasses off because we're about to go swinging. Like, I am just so over it.

[Moses]

She is a functional nutrition coach and fitness instructor. Her bio says all things health plus wellness plus faith plus lifestyle. Baby Jesus wasn't being Jesus.

[Trish]

Jesus does not love you. He loves everybody else but you.

[Oscar]

Nothing about her questions made sure the food is actually healthy.

[Trish]

That's what I say. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah. In house doesn't mean anything. They could have used. They could have used the worst materials to make your food.

[Trish]

Yeah, like, what's the nothing about it? Grease, lard, butter.

[Oscar]

Like, yeah, so that's why the questions were odd.

[Trish]

So just don't go out to eat. Yeah, it's like, you're so annoying because

[Oscar]

there was nothing about it that was actually making sure the food is healthy.

[Trish]

No, she was. I saw her. And I hope that everybody on the Internet makes a video being like, you're annoying because it goes back to, like, the public shaming of it all. Like, don't you feel stupid? Like, you should feel so stupid. You should feel so stupid because it's. Again, you're not like, have any restrictions that you're talking about. It's not like you're lactose and you're allergic. It's just annoying. And you're filming it.

[Oscar]

There's places for people that. That care about those things. Like, you go to a place that, you know, that's what they advertise. We make everything in house. We use this material. You don't walk into a place that doesn't advertise.

[Trish]

That and the hero back and forth. Crazy.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because at the end of the day, so if you're not ordering toast with butter, what are you gonna order?

[Trish]

Because if someone's like, oh, I don't know if we have that. I'll be like, it's fine. Like, don't worry about. Like, just don't worry. I will take it. I won't take it. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, I don't. You don't make someone go back and forth. Ugh, Hated it. Is she. Is she have followers? Is she like influencer she or she.

[Moses]

She has around 10k. So she's not.

[Trish]

Oh, so she's Sarah.

[Moses]

What's her name? The annoying grocery store girl. What's her name? Catherine. She's not like a Catherine Abs who has like a million.

[Trish]

Oh, I see. I see. So she. This is her way to get it, I guess. Well, girl, I don't know if this is your best way claim to fame, but I guess congrats. You got people talking about you. How many views does it have? Did it get her enough coin?

[Moses]

I mean, almost a million. So I guess I saw more discourse

[Trish]

about it, which isn't good if you get more discourse about it than the actual views.

[Moses]

So true. If the commentary. People who are stitchy.

[Trish]

Yes. Are getting more views than you. What is that called? Mogging. What's it called? Twitter all the time. If you like reply to someone, like, I might comment. Ratio yours. And she got ratioed.

[Moses]

She deserved. That was. I could not even believe how.

[Trish]

Hey. Oh my God, don't be an to servers. And if you are dealing with something like that service, spitting that food.

[Moses]

Because also, how are the hash browns, like, made in house? Like, yeah, they have the potato and then they're frying it in.

[Trish]

Maybe she thinks Ryda like those red bags. Maybe they're just dumping it in the fryer. But even so, that's what a lot of. Yeah. You never know. Yeah, someone could be. Yeah. Hey, stay home.

[Moses]

It's been a lot of annoying girls lately, I fear.

[Trish]

Yes, it's hurting my heart.

[Moses]

But I mean, listen, if you're annoying

[Oscar]

and you're a menace, just don't give them meta glasses. So true.

[Trish]

I saw my tick tock. I got dropped off into random tick tock of. It was okay. It was. People were very divided. The girlies were divided. The girlies were fighting. And I don't like it because it's the woke girlies fighting too. Everyone should be on the same page. And it was very basically, a girl came to the Internet and was like, left. Did you see the one with the voice memo?

[Oscar]

Oh, that's my hot topic for Patreon.

[Trish]

Oh, okay. Do we want to say.

[Oscar]

Because I was gonna play the voice memo. We need to listen to it.

[Trish]

Is it long?

[Oscar]

I don't know if it's that long. I think it's just a little bit of music in the background of it.

[Trish]

Well, we can play a little bit.

[Oscar]

We should play it a little bit.

[Trish]

Okay.

[Oscar]

And then. And then. Cuz it is. It is a big hot topic. I mean, the month of discourse about this.

[Trish]

You were on this side of Tik

[Oscar]

Tok too, and there's so many. Yeah, the opinions are.

[Trish]

Yeah, that's what I was saying that people were like, so, so divided.

[Moses]

I guess my thing is, is like, what would be the point of me

[Trish]

coming over then if we're not gonna,

[Moses]

like, hook up and like, cuddle and like, be intimate with each other and if that's what you don't want, that's fine. But, like, I think we should just, like, end it here then, respectfully. Just because I first date, that's fine. Like, you want to get to know each other.

[Trish]

I'm all about that.

[Moses]

But, like, I am looking to have that physical aspect there, and I don't want to continue seeing someone if I don't know if that's good.

[Oscar]

If.

[Moses]

If that's not there or not. So up to you, let me know. I'm happy to. If you do want me to come over, I'm. I'm happy to do so.

[Trish]

Would love to have a good time

[Moses]

and, you know, we can have some wine, hang out and chill, but if you're not trying to hook up, then, like, I think we should just go our separate ways.

[Trish]

Let me know. That part was the egg that Jimmy

[Oscar]

can cut the part with the music

[Trish]

out, but was that part of his. Or was that on Tik Tok? Why was the music. Why was.

[Oscar]

When they. That's how they posted it. Okay.

[Trish]

All right. Well, we know the Tick Tock's opinion's pretty divided. What's your opinion? It's really divided.

[Moses]

It's not divided. I really. I think the Gen Z or no, actually, Shade Gen Z, we're doing a little too much. Like, honestly, millennials, we did it the right way. You know, we would just go with the flow, go with the vibe. Like, if things are getting that direction, then we sense it and then we know. Like, I have been on so many dates where, like, we would make out, we get a little touchy. And. And then wouldn't hear from him again. I'm like, okay, yeah, we just weren't, like, physically compatible because, like. But if they told me in advance, yeah, like, I will go out with you, but, like, we need to be doing this, this, and this for also. Second of all, a voice memo does not mean you have a podcast. Why is that so long? That literally was podcast length. Just to get that little message across. Hey, like, I want to hook up, but we're not going to hook up. Then I don't want to hang out.

[Oscar]

What?

[Moses]

That's all it needs to be, baby. Like, yeah, weird.

[Trish]

Well, that is kind of where it got divided, I suppose. What, to your point? Because I'm. I'm so with you. I'm like, why is this a voice note? This gives me the egg.

[Moses]

I already know the other. The opposite side of me. And it's the Gen Z is being like, honestly, it's great that he's communicating.

[Trish]

Yes.

[Moses]

Letting us know. And he's setting the boundary, girl. No, it's weird. It's weird. It's creepy. It's too much. He's like.

[Trish]

They're saying he's giving his intention, so there's no, like, leading on. So a lot of people are like. And then the other people are like, it can't be consent, because it's kind of coercion. Because you're giving an ultimatum. So people are. And then they're both. They're all from the woke side of the woke girly. So they're all very much like, this is consent. This is how you it. You're upfront with it. And, like, maybe it sounds like thick, but wait. And the other people are like, no, it's coercion, and you can always withdraw consent. And, like, you did. And she's giving an ultimatum that you won't see him again. Like, no. What's the ultimatum? That you don't see him again. Oh, well, let him go. Like, it was very divided. It was all over TikTok.

[Moses]

I think everyone needs to unite. This man is kind of crazy. Like, it's kind. He seems, like, a little deranged. He definitely seems like a menace, giving, like, obsession. If he had the One Wish Willow, he'd be snapping the. And that's crazy. It's weird. Like, let's just keep it moving. Like, obviously he's nuts. Like, it gives me something. Something. I guess guys are just guys. It gives me very gay. Like, it gives me very, like, grinder. Like, you want to. If I'm coming over, like, I'm going to you. And it's like, no. Like, maybe I just want to suck tonight. No, I'm not coming over, Justice. Like, like, if I'm coming over, I'm topping. And it's like, okay, well, I don't want to do all that tonight. It's like, okay, blocked. You keep it moving. That's kind of the vibe that that

[Trish]

gives me do on Grindr. That's great.

[Moses]

It's like, yeah, like, no, I'm not coming over just to suck. Like, I'm coming over to go all the way.

[Trish]

I like that. I wish I would have known that back in my single days. Because that would be. Some of times you would just suck. And it's like, what the hell? Like, what? Get out of this. Girls, take note. I kind of like that, actually. I think if it's like, you're a girl gay guy, I kind of love it. I think this guy gives me the. And he obviously, no game. Because any guy that has some sort of sweats, nobody has to. Nobody has to do all that. Obviously he's had a lot of rejection. Obviously. Like, he is only weird. Definitely red flag. I guess I can see the point of like, well, he's up front. I guess that's of kind good. But on the same point of that, it's like, you. You don't know. Like, the vibes can always change. Maybe I wasn't expecting to right away, but then it's like you come over, you're like, what am you? All these. So go with the flow. But also, I guess I get it. I guess if you.

[Oscar]

If that's a flow, that's it.

[Trish]

He has no flow. There's no flow.

[Oscar]

Because the thing is, what's so weird about it, the way it describes is like, you know, and we'll cuddle. And I'm like, cuddle is something very specific. Like, you cuddle with somebody that you have established emotional connection.

[Trish]

And well, he doesn't know women that way because he's like, well, cuddle. It's like, well, I want to cuddle with you. I don't know your stuff. Stinky ass.

[Oscar]

So it's so weird. The way he describes it, it's like, I want romance. I'm like, you. You create romance.

[Trish]

That's not romance.

[Oscar]

You don't put an ultimatum on romance and the connectivity and said romance is dead. With this, his time is so precious that he can't spend a few dates to figure out if you are compatible with this person. Like, are people standing in line and

[Trish]

you're like, I think everyone agrees he gets the ick is what I saw. Everyone's like, okay, he's definitely gross. But it's like, but he's setting a bound. Like, there were. There were people defending him. But then the girl's like, no, you're being. Pick me up. So I don't think we need to defend men. I don't think we need to defend it. I think we can all agree he's just. I can leave it at that.

[Moses]

Be like, yeah, I would say debate the semantics. The point is, like, he's weird. Like, that's just such a weird.

[Trish]

It's weird. And if you sent me that voice memo, I'm also putting it on the Internet because weird. Like, I'm going to put it on there.

[Oscar]

It's, you know, and people are like, well, it's good. At least he did it in voice memo. I'm like, no, if you listen to the conversation, he did it on the first date already. He already told her on the first day that that's what he wants. And she said she's not sure. Sure about it.

[Trish]

So he's.

[Oscar]

So then he was trying to reiterate,

[Trish]

like, dude, move on to someone else.

[Oscar]

He did do it in person. He did bring it up to her on the first date. And I was like, it's so.

[Trish]

You're weird. Although single, Trish would have definitely banged on the first day. So you'll find a girl out there that'll do it. And someone's gonna be desperate.

[Moses]

Damn you. Male, censored and single. You'd have been like, I honestly love and respect that you said that. Like, that is honestly so hot that

[Trish]

you said, honestly, that was me. And someone's like, they were married and like, wow, someone telling me the truth. I love this. I guess so you are.

[Moses]

Oh, my God.

[Trish]

Girls are up sometimes. So just find one with a little trauma and they'll do it. No, I don't know. Like, honestly, like, you're weird. You're ick. And yeah, I don't know. I. People. People want to have sex with people. Like, I don't know. You don't. People don't try so hard. Guys don't try so hard. Girls don't try. Like, you really can just. But it is giving, like, insight. Like, you've never been with a woman or you've been rejected too many times because it's actually not that hard to have sex with people. Like, it's actually very easy. I was ugly insecure my entire life, and I have so much Sex, it's easier to hook up than you think.

[Moses]

So yeah, like on Love island, when they get like physical, it's not like they're asking like, okay, like if we're going to test our connection, like we need to, I need to have a French fry. You know, it's like, you know, they kiss and then it builds up. Like that's just normal human interaction. I, I do fear the male loneliness epidemic is really frying some brains and making people think that they can just say what they want and like demand it and then get it. And that's it's human connection. Like it's a two way street. You set the tone, you set the vibe. Like if you want to work up to something physical, like woo them, you

[Trish]

know what I mean?

[Moses]

Like, what happens to that? What happens?

[Trish]

I know. And guys just don't. My advice to the desperate girlies out there who do like to have sex on the first day, there's nothing wrong with it if you want to. I was that girl. But honestly, it's very rare that they do try to woo you after that.

[Moses]

Straight people do need some kind of grinder though.

[Trish]

I think you need to invent, right?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trish]

And I was that girl who I was like, I'm just down for that too. Just I wanted to whatever, but like I wasn't. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's never like real.

[Oscar]

I don't know, he's probably following one of those male influencers that guide them how to date and what to do. There's probably somebody that put that like, this is what you say, this is what you do, this is what you establish. And yeah, it was just so everything about his voice mail was me, me, I, I, me, me. Like at no point, point he was asking or telling what he will do for her or how he'll make her feel comfortable or good or anything.

[Trish]

No, it's like the worst. That's the worst.

[Oscar]

And if you want for me to come over and for me to waste my time and I'm like, this is.

[Trish]

Yeah, it's not about you. Sex is never about you. If you're not a relationship, it is not about you. The guys that make it all about themselves, you're disgusting and gross and you make sex. Well, I talk about it in my book. I really thought I was like asexual for the longest time because every guy gave me the ick and I kept like trying. I was like, let me try, me try. And every guy, they just keep care about themselves and what they can do and finish and all stuff like that. And you're like, you're actually disgusting. Actually disgusted me before I met Moses, but before my Moses, I was 100 asexual. I just didn't know what that meant.

[Moses]

I can go either way with my. My pivot. I guess I'll stick to men being creeping. You.

[Trish]

Your pivots are great.

[Moses]

They are one of my little transitions. There is a movie reviewer youtuber that got canceled for his review of Obsession. I guess with Obsession, it kind of is like a litmus test, I guess, on, like, if guys are creepy or not by their interpretation of it is kind of what I've. I've realized since it's become such a phenomenon. So his name is Alex Meyers. He's a really popular, like, movie reviewer on YouTube and he posted a review of Obsession and he. He made it clear from the jump like he had a disclaimer that's going to be like, I am going to have a unpopular take on the movie Obsession.

[Trish]

Whatever.

[Moses]

And in his review, he makes a lot of weird remarks. First of all, he talks about, like, main character Nikki, describes her as basically like, he calls her a Latina mommy over and over and over again. So he sexualizes her Latina mommy basically, like, is a little. A bit of a microaggression by saying, like, Latinas are crazy.

[Trish]

Yeah. Oh, I see it. She Latina.

[Moses]

That's the kind of thing too. Indy Navarretti is half Mexican, but, like, that never plays into the story. Story. Like, I didn't know she was half Mexican until I saw a review where she was food. So it. It's kind of just like he brought that in. And he's a white dude.

[Trish]

He's straight.

[Moses]

A divorce guy, too.

[Trish]

How old is he?

[Moses]

He's not that old, actually. Let me see.

[Trish]

Divorce. First white male under the age of 40. Already sounds a little.

[Moses]

He is. He's. He just turned 38. Oh, it's a Taurus.

[Trish]

What day?

[Moses]

May 17, 1988.

[Trish]

We're too close. I don't like.

[Moses]

Yeah, but so that was like just the beginning of the review too. So before he even gets too much into it, he's already, like, sexualizing her and calling her like the crazy crystal Latina mommy. Because there's like a scene where she says, oh, I dropped my crystal in necklace. So there's like a lot of weird projection.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And then the way that he talks about Bear, who is essentially the. The nice guy who turned into the villain. Yeah, very. That.

[Trish]

Yeah.

[Moses]

He talks about him in a way, like that puts parallels between himself and the way that he talks about him is like, no, like he really is like a nice guy. He didn't have the intent to basically hold Nikki captive and take away her autonomy. Like, it just kind of happened, happened. So he kind of talks in his review. He goes around even like the, the sa scene where she doesn't consent to having sex with him. He doesn't even acknowledge that scene, but he just kind of like paints bear to be more of a victim of circumstance instead of like the villain. And then he compares it to like Disney Channel movies where like, you know, the girl makes a wish for the guy to fall in love with them. And I'm like, it's so different. It's so not. And he keeps comparing. It's like a rom com or something too.

[Trish]

I mean, I could see the logic, I suppose a little bit, but I don't know if they're like having sex with anybody that they wish to fall in love with.

[Moses]

Yeah, and he ended up getting, he ended up private in the video. But before that it got like over 14,000 comments of people just being like, this is a weird take. This is not it. None of this makes sense.

[Trish]

Deleted.

[Moses]

He ended up private in the video. Before that though, he posted, he wrote a comment saying like, you guys are just as bad as the people I was talking about here who aren't able to look at the movie with nuance, etc. Etc. And then once that comment didn't get a good review, he ended up posting a five minute apology video for his reveal of the obsession. And then that didn't get a good review either. So then he ended up privateing both the obsession movie review and his apology.

[Trish]

How many views was he getting? Was it a lot?

[Oscar]

The.

[Moses]

It got like over 500k. The obsession. Yeah.

[Trish]

And it's just on YouTube.

[Moses]

It's just.

[Trish]

Is he a creator? He just like randomly posted.

[Moses]

He's a creator. That's his thing is like he reviews movies and he does it like he's a real guy, but he has like a little cartoon, little cartoon of him, like do the reviewing basically.

[Trish]

Oh, so you don't see him?

[Moses]

No, you don't even see him. Like his face is out there like on his social media. But what's he look like? Just like a normal white guy. Just a regular.

[Trish]

It's always them.

[Moses]

Yeah, I mean you can see here just average looking white guy. But it is so interesting because he went into it too with like so self assured and so like, yeah, I'm going to Have a hot take on the movie, but I don't care what you snowflakes think about it and then all that just to go and private it. But yeah, you cared. And just such a weird, like, litmus test of, like, guys who understand consent and everything. I think, like, because Bear is, like, the nice guy, I'm actually afraid for you. I'm going to love in Tana Marie also, because I feel like I'm scared of what you two brand safegirls would think. The film after he got canceled for

[Trish]

it, I wouldn't watch. I'm gonna watch as soon as it dreams. I know. You know me, I'm definitely gonna be like, I get it.

[Moses]

I know. I fear you. And I do fear about you and Tana's review of the film.

[Trish]

Like, we're all crazy girls published anyway,

[Moses]

because, like, it is a little concerning that, like, I think because it's not so, like, obvious or in your face. Like, he.

[Trish]

He seems nice there.

[Moses]

Seems like a nice guy. Awkward. He's, like, cute. Like the actor. Blaze. Him is cute. Like, attractive, active. Just, like, nerve. Nervy, anxious, uncomfortable.

[Trish]

Yeah. So we love him. We're like, you're cutie.

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Trish]

You got the girl, huh?

[Moses]

And then you kind of see, you know, he didn't know that this thing was gonna make her, Nikki, like, fall in love with them and, like, lose her autonomy and everything. But you find out once he does discover that he does nothing to change it. And he's also, like, so neutral. Like, he doesn't choose to do anything bad, but he chooses nothing. Like, he finds out that she's, like, being tortured, and he chooses nothing. Like, he doesn't act at all. So he ends up being the villain by just being, like, neutral and, like, a loser.

[Trish]

But what is he gonna do?

[Moses]

He had, like, the opportunity to kill

[Trish]

her and be a murderer.

[Moses]

No, he was supposed to, like, undo the wish or whatever. Like, there was. Well, once he learns about it, he's trying to figure out, like, oh, I want to change it. I just want to change it so she can still love me, just not be so in love with me, right? And then, so he's trying to, like, find a workaround. He knows that.

[Trish]

He tried.

[Moses]

He knows that. But he tried to make it for him. Like, he wants it. So, like, she's in love with him, but, like, he can be a normal. A normal couple.

[Trish]

Well, how do you know that? Maybe he's trying to do it for her, too.

[Moses]

No, because he says, like, I want to be with her. I just want her to be, like, normal. Like, he wants her to be in love with her a normal amount.

[Trish]

Right. Because he didn't know what the spell was going to be. So he's like, well, but maybe for her to.

[Moses]

Okay, see, this is exactly what you and Alex Meyers.

[Trish]

I can't.

[Moses]

You're going down with Alex Meyers, baby.

[Oscar]

That's good. A.

[Moses]

Exactly what I feared.

[Trish]

I haven't seen the movie, but I'm trying to be, like, lawyer over here. Like, just being like. Well, he did try, I guess. I don't know. I haven't seen it.

[Moses]

But he had the concept of a thought, but he just didn't.

[Trish]

I do want to see it. I do love movies about obsession, literally. But I do love, like, a Misery or something like that. So I'm in the weekend movies. Jenner take. I like that one, too.

[Moses]

See, I. We'll see what you think about it, but we're going to watch it. I. It is so funny that he was, like, just so. Well, rightfully so.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trish]

Also, when you're a man is to start out with, like, I don't care what any of you snowflakes. It's not even, like, giving some sort of, like, oh, in his defense, you know, like, trying. It was like, just like, you already know you're gonna be an.

[Moses]

And any criticism. Like, he eventually did say, yeah, he did do, like, bad things, but, like, he always had, like, a qualifier. Kind of like you just did, but, like. But he always had, like, one of those in there. And it was, like, very nonsensical, I think, too. Like, yeah, the POV of, like, a man saying all this. But, yeah, I didn't expect obsession. Like, I don't know. When I watched it, I'm like, oh, this makes sense. And then I've seen some interpretations, and I'm like, I am scared about media literacy. I truly am.

[Trish]

That is just the world we live in. Honestly. It's just I'm scared of men and the human race, because they all are. I'm sure more people that aren't even vocal are like, no, I actually understand it. Like, I would actually do that, too. They probably would love that. It's giving. Don't worry, darling. Too. I'm sure a lot of men would just be like, I love this.

[Moses]

So true. Yeah.

[Trish]

And it's like, that is the world we live in, and that's what's scary. And what do they say? Not all men, but always a man. And it always is. Look at these reviewers. They're all men.

[Moses]

And for my last Trick my new saying. Interested to know your thoughts as a content creator who also announced the relationship. Okay, so Ludwig and Cutie Cinderella got engaged.

[Trish]

Congrats.

[Moses]

But Ludwig, like posted his video, his YouTube video about it. Not on his main channel, but his second channel. Right. I was like, wait, oh, hell no.

[Trish]

That's giving Twitter notes to announce it. It's like, I'm doing a full proposal photo shoot and you're gonna just do a little Instagram.

[Moses]

But then he like, his YouTube video on it was like, wait, why isn't this on your main channel? Like, it's on his second channel. I'm like, wait, this is.

[Trish]

He's worried about. Does he have incels that follow him? I feel like, though, it's like that group of people, it's the Bears, it's this guy. It's all of it, you know, a little bit like Bear, but that's, that's what I'm saying. And you know that guy that we just talked about, he's following Ludwig for sure.

[Moses]

I like him. But I was side eye was like, wait, why is it on the second channel?

[Trish]

It's giving David Dober's apology on the. Not even the Views channel. Like his second channel too. Like, David Dober too. And it's like, no, no, no. Like, put me on the main. This is like life changing news. And did she post about it? Qt? Was she streaming about it?

[Moses]

She posted on Instagram. I don't know if she posted a YouTube video about it or anything.

[Trish]

Absolutely not. It should definitely go on that main channel for sure.

[Moses]

Like what? Like you didn't even get on Moses cooking. You got on like the what?

[Trish]

No, his main one back then would have been Channel Water.

[Moses]

Okay, okay.

[Trish]

Come to think of it, I didn't get a proposal video on Channel Water. There was. There was no mention of me on Channel Water. And he was posting actively on there. And never once was it, like, I'm in a new relationship. Here's the video about love today. I never had a shot, but the

[Oscar]

difference is I wasn't a YouTuber. Still not.

[Trish]

You were, babe. You were Channel Water once a week. You were on there once a week.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but that's not being a YouTuber.

[Trish]

What do you mean? Mean, what is the definition of a YouTuber?

[Oscar]

YouTuber is somebody that shares their personal life.

[Moses]

Like they are.

[Oscar]

They are the person. The person is the channel. No, I was just doing lectures. It could have been about mathematics, could be about anything.

[Trish]

Babish is telling us who, what his face looks like and who he's married to no Babish is his hands cooking. Like that's it. But he's a YouTuber. But exactly.

[Oscar]

When people. No, I'm saying, like when people wanted to be YouTubers, they usually wanted to be a person.

[Trish]

If you're posting on YouTube, you're YouTuber. There's lifestyle YouTubers, there's vloggers. You think Dream is talking about his mom that he lives with? No, it's like, you know, like people are just. I. I think it's. I think you were a youtuber.

[Oscar]

But if in. So you're on all your social media, you share your personal life. If I never share my personal life, then what?

[Trish]

Well, when I'm. When you're engaged. Cuz now you're sharing your personal life.

[Oscar]

It has nothing to do with the channel.

[Trish]

But now you're posting about me.

[Moses]

I watch water.

[Oscar]

I watch.

[Trish]

Exactly.

[Oscar]

I watch.

[Trish]

I found my other water being in this world. And that is the meaning of life.

[Moses]

Two drops, you know, like there's something

[Trish]

there, metaphorically, symbolically put into there somehow.

[Oscar]

Well, you have. But not on the channel.

[Trish]

Well, I want to be on the channel. I don't want to be on Moses Hackman cooking videos. I want to be.

[Oscar]

Gonna have a new video for channel.

[Trish]

I want to be. I got to be on the ASMR channel. I need to be on channel Water. Which is your original channel.

[Oscar]

Exactly. Anything else I did.

[Trish]

Other water droplets you want to know has been taken. He's like, I'm sorry, guys.

[Oscar]

When people ask on channel Water why I stopped posting, I told them why and you're the reason.

[Trish]

Well, can you post a final video saying that? You know how people come back and they're like, hey, guys, I know it's been a couple years. Yes, that's your ch.

[Oscar]

May. When my hair is the same length it was on those videos. I will.

[Trish]

It is the same length now.

[Oscar]

Then it'll be like, people won't feel like time has passed unless it gets grayer.

[Trish]

It's going to be silver by the time that happens. All right, Honestly, Main channel. Give me that main channel proposal.

[Moses]

That's what I'm saying, Ludwig. Let's like upload it again. Upload it again. Or collab. Collab between the two channels.

[Trish]

Ah, you can clap yourself. You're right.

[Moses]

Come on. I solved this problem for him.

[Trish]

Yeah. Did you have anything to say about it? Just to do a little tweet. Hey, guys, don't worry about it.

[Moses]

She should have wrote something.

[Trish]

I need to know her. I need to know her. Opinions on it.

[Moses]

Reach out for a statement.

[Trish]

You know, girls always offend their man, though. Like, guys, I don't even want it on the main channel. Like, it's not that serious. It's private. It's right. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

She makes fun of him a lot, so I feel like maybe she would make some kind of joke. I feel like she probably doesn't care that much, but you care. Come on.

[Trish]

You care. I care there for you. I care that I'm not on channel water. Now that I think about it, I was like, wait, actually, because your vow to me was water. Are you listening? He's literally at his phone. Literally checked out. And that bow could go on channel water because you. You were talking about water. Or was that me talking about water? Maybe I was talking about water. Put that on channel. Either way, I can go on the channel. All right, guys, another episode has wrapped. We love you. What a great episode this was. This was great. This was perfect. We had Olipop to hydrate us all episode long. You guys have a great summer. Happy birthday, Oscar. Go leave him love. Go be like, happy birthday. May all your dreams come true. I hope you get everything you wanted. I'm manifesting just another year of good health, wealth and abundance for you. Yeah, we love you guys and we'll see you on the Patreon. Bye.