Just Trish Episode for May 14, 2026

Summary

Just Trish Podcast: May 14, 2026 – Episode Summary

Episode Overview

In this lively and unfiltered episode of Just Trish, Trisha Paytas, joined as always by Emmy-winning co-host Oscar Gracey and husband Moses Hacmon, delivers her signature blend of internet commentary, pop culture gossip, and candid life updates. The episode covers everything from celebrity drama and viral moments, to Trisha’s memoir, therapy journeys, K-pop obsessions, and plans for overseas adventures. As ever, the “It’s not personal, it’s Just Trish” vibe is strong: honest, off-the-cuff, occasionally controversial, and always entertaining.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. James Charles, Assistants, and Coachella Stories

• Oscar jokes about applying as James Charles’ assistant, referencing past controversies with James Charles’ alleged odd requests (03:16).
• The hosts riff on the infamous “shaving” story and speculate wildly about BBLs, liposuction, and office culture at “James Charles Inc.”
  • Quote: Oscar: “No one tell this to James Charles, but yes, I want to launch an internal investigation into the happenings of James Charles Inc. …Is he like the Jeff Bezos making them pee in water bottles?” (02:45)

2. Trisha’s ‘Trish Trio’ at Benihana & Brand Highlights

• Celebration of Trisha’s menu item at Benihana, with fan hunts for signage and details of their favorite butter sauces (06:14).
• Tied into promo for her memoir “Crying on the Kitchen Floor” and upcoming UK appearance at Royal Albert Hall.

3. Mental Health, Therapy, and Online Perceptions

• Open and heartfelt discussion on mental health, diagnoses (BPD, agoraphobia, bipolar confusion), and the ongoing nature of therapy.
  • Quote: Oscar (on agoraphobia): “I literally did not know that I was diagnosed at that at some point, so. …It was really specific places” (20:57)
  • Quote: Trisha: “Sometimes you still gotta recognize those triggers and you still gotta like, work on it every single day. I do go to therapy once a week via Zoom...” (18:58)
• Reflections on the challenges and stigma of mental illness in entertainment.

4. Celebrity Hot Takes & The State of Internet ‘Drama’

• Billie Eilish’s anti-meat interview sparks a philosophical chat about opinions, “manifesting as a bimbo”, and internet outrage over minor things like pineapple pizza.
  • Quote: Trisha: “I saw a TikTok, and I say that because I say it about me. Someone did a TikTok and they’re like, the reason Trisha is so good at manifesting is because she’s a bimbo, though…she doesn’t think about anything.” (12:15)
• Commentary on the Kevin Hart roast and the complicated arc of comedians like Pete Davidson, with side discussions on therapy and group counseling for public figures (15:15).

5. YouTube & Influencer Nostalgia (“Breakup Videos” Segment)

• Trisha and Oscar reminisce about famous YouTuber breakup videos, notably Joey Graceffa and Daniel Preda, Liza & David, and others.
  • Quote: Oscar: “Breakup videos… And then… Yeah. Did David Dobrik happen before that?” (42:28)
• Spirited analysis of the “British Invasion” era of YouTube, from Zoella to Sprinkle of Glitter (45:04), poking fun at the cultural disconnect.

6. Music & Pop Culture Chatter

• Gushing over recent Sports Illustrated covers (Hilary Duff, Alex Earl, et al.), feminist fitness sentiments, and viral Today Show performances.
• Extended tangent unpacking the real meaning of Fergie’s “London Bridge,” with much laughter about millennial reference points and pop lyrics. (50:09 onwards)

7. K-Pop, Korean Culture & Body Image Real Talk

• Detailed discussion of K-pop group competitions, idol group formations, and an earnest debate about body diversity in K-pop (“breaking the mold”).
  • Quote: Trisha: “Why don’t they do that? …They’re all teeny tiny. I am gonna break that barrier.” (81:48)
  • Discussion of mukbang origins, specialty McDonald's Korea menu items, and planning a South Korea trip for influencer activities and a possible K-pop crossover song for her kids (84:12 onward).
  • Quote: Trisha: “Can McDonald’s Korea fly me out? I’ll do mukbangs for a day. …Oh, my gosh, please.” (86:46)

8. Current Online Drama: Reality TV & Influencer “Call-Outs”

• Explains the current Avery Woods/Mormon Wives of OC incident: Avery doxing a TikTok commenter for a mild “pay the mortgage” joke—explored with both sympathy and bewilderment about influencer boundaries.
  • Quote: Trisha: “You are a mom. You have kids. …Would you want someone doing that to your child when they’re in college?” (126:09)
• Analysis of reality stars’ brand deal philosophies, referencing recent Vulture interviews and the new wave of Love Island stars (130:45).

9. Podcast Guesting Goals & Media Landscape

• Trisha and Oscar set out their bucket list of podcasts to appear on during book promotion (Jay Shetty, Smartless, Amy Poehler, “the Tig Notaro guessing one”), differentiating between good/interviewers and awkward experiences.
• Jay Shetty episode is discussed at length, especially regarding Hayden Panettiere’s disclosures about sexual assault, postpartum, and child custody issues.
  • Quote: Trisha: “Like, why not say the name? …Is he still an actor? Like, is he still out there, like, doing this stuff? Who’s the woman? …It is obviously one of the things that people are gonna, like, speculate.” (94:15)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Oscar (on speculating about James Charles):
  “I want to launch an internal investigation into the happenings of James Charles Inc. I want to see how the employees are being treated. Is it like Amazon?...” (02:45)

• Trisha (on online drama):
  “Sometimes people just have different ideas. As long as it’s not morally compromising, a la James Charles Dickinson…” (14:12)

• Oscar (on mental health in therapy):
  “You have to be treated for something. It’s like trial and error. Like, they treat you for one thing and you get medicated for one thing. But they don’t know if it works for like a couple months.” (24:04)

• Trisha (on influencer travel to Korea):
  “Can McDonald’s Korea fly me out? I’ll do mukbangs for a day. Is there… Oh, my gosh, please.” (86:46)

• Trisha (on the Avery Woods controversy):
  “Like, you. You do just. You are a mom. You have kids. Like, there’s other things you could be, like, focusing on…Like, would you want someone doing that to your child when they’re in college…” (126:09)

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Important Timestamps

• James Charles speculation / Assistant rumors – 02:38–05:39
• Benihana / Trish Trio – 06:14–07:52
• Mental health discussion (agoraphobia, BPD, DBT) – 17:18–24:57
• Manifestation & “bimbo” mindset – 12:15–14:17
• Billie Eilish, internet opinions – 11:07–13:39
• ‘British Invasion’ YouTubers – 45:04–46:51
• Breakup video YouTube nostalgia – 41:09–44:44
• K-pop & Korean body diversity discussion – 81:35–85:06
• Avery Woods influencer drama – 116:32–128:05
• Hayden Panettiere’s revelations/Jay Shetty – 93:04–96:32

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Tone and Style

• Energetic and conversational: The trio bounces between roasting, sharing personal stories, and speculative commentary, maintaining a rapid pace and playful energy.
• Unfiltered honesty: Trisha in particular remains candid, oscillating between deep vulnerability (mental health, therapy, memoir writing) and over-the-top pop-culture takes.
• Social commentary: The group often zooms out from individual stories to broader societal patterns (cancel culture, body image, influencer ethics).
• Inside jokes and references: Shoutouts to long-time listeners, callbacks to viral Trish and YouTube moments, and constant nods to shared internet culture (e.g., “gays love aquariums,” British invasion, pandaemonium at meetups).
• Supportive but critical: Willing to discuss the downsides and oddities of influencer culture even as participants in it.

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For New Listeners

This Just Trish episode is a whirlwind tour of internet trends, celebrity drama, personal growth, and influencer self-referential comedy, featuring regular, uncensored insight into the lives of people who have been “terminally online” for over a decade. If you haven’t heard Trisha’s take on YouTube, therapy, K-pop, and who actually had the original viral breakup video, this episode is your comprehensive ride.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

Girl, winter is so last season and now spring's got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders that perfect hang on the patio sundress those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done. Hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope. It's time for a little in person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Focus features in Blumhouse Obsession. When I have a crush on a guy no one knows. Be careful. I wish Nikki love me more than anyone in the entire world. Who you wish for obsession is 96% fresh on rotten tomatoes. I love you so, so, so, so much. It's blood soaked nightmare fuel.

[Oscar Gracie]

Brooke hunger spills you put on her.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have been warned. Obsession. Rated R under 17. Animated without parent. Only in theaters May 15 with special engagements in Dolby. I remember Shane calling R like, panicked. He's like, you have to get home right now. It was like 5 o' clock at night and it was like kind of dark. It was kind of like moody. He's like, you have to get home right now. And like, you know, I love those Korean fried cheese, but it's like, wonder if they have like, any like, kimchi over there or they have prosperity burger. Oh, I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, they have a spicy Mac and cheese burger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why is no one fat over there? Is it just like you keep like, I don't no sodium? Like what. Her name is. She's got the dish filthy rich. Hello. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. We are so happy you're here. Vibes are right. Sun is shining. May is in full force and. And we're just happy to be here. You guys, before we get started, just wanted to say quick shout out to Olipop for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. New summer flavors are here. Raspberry sherbert and BlackBerry vanilla. And this is so good. I'm glad they brought this flavor back. So cheers to that. Cheers to a bunch of things Patreon is bumping. Okay. We do extended podcasts every Wednesday, so after our podcast, we always do a little extra for you guys over there. And then if you bump it up even more on the weekends, we do a bonus one. So patreon.com justtrish on Oscar applied to be James Charles assistant or producer. Honestly, I don't even know. We'll see if I lose Oscar to

[Moses]

James Charles, maybe PR training for James Charles.

[Oscar Gracie]

I re angled it in light and in lieu of the spirit airlines you did. Now my angle is I will be like the Trojan horse. Launch an internal investigation if you will. No one tell this to James Charles. But yes, I want to launch an internal investigation into the happenings of James Charles Inc. I want to see how the employees are being treated. Is it like Amazon? Is it like. Is he like the Jeff Bezos making them peeing water bottles? Like, what is going on over there? What's the pay?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like if he tries to ask you to shave his butt like the other

[Moses]

assistant or which body part we shave this time?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. We looked up last Hot Topic. Was it Hot Topics or Patreon that we discovered. Yeah. That an assistant in 2021 claimed James Charles asked to shave his. Yeah, asked the assistant to shave.

[Oscar Gracie]

Help shave his butt for Coachella. Which does line up with the photographic evidence of his outfit at that one Coachella because remember that was the year everyone was making fun of his like razor bumps.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she didn't do a good job, I guess. Or he had to do it himself. What would you say if James Charles asked you that to help him shave his bu. What?

[Oscar Gracie]

Can I film it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Where are you going to post it?

[Oscar Gracie]

My vlog.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you would do it? You would do it for a vlog?

[Oscar Gracie]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think you could pay me $20 billion to shave James. That's crazy. You're going to do it for a vlog? Honestly, maybe that is the right pairing. If he wasn't awful, I would. I'm offering you if it wasn't awful. But now I'm like, no.

[Oscar Gracie]

Are you kidding? That vlog like writes its out like the title. I already see it in like an up close look at James Charles BBL as they shave his butt. Like what? That's crazy.

[Moses]

More like come to work with me for a day.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh yeah. Te.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, that's funny. Come to me.

[Oscar Gracie]

Platform.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. All right, well maybe it's worth it then. Maybe. And I'm sure he'll love it. I'm sure James will be so down.

[Oscar Gracie]

Were you going to say is a BBL confirmed? I'm pretty sure I'm.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was confirmed.

[Oscar Gracie]

If not, I actually know there. There's no damn way that's genetics.

[Trisha Paytas]

In your opinion?

[Oscar Gracie]

In my opinion, you can see it from the side. And I don't think James Charles was built like that. Let's just say that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, some people say it's natural, but who? James.

[Oscar Gracie]

James.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was naturally born with a fatty. Like, maybe thin somehow some way magically got a booty.

[Moses]

Maybe he's butt maxing.

[Oscar Gracie]

He is butt maxing. Where did he even get the fat from? Where did he get the fat from? He had one of the fatter assistants be like, yeah, you can be my assistant if you give me your fat and put him out.

[Moses]

He probably offers her a free liposuction.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, well, you do have to get

[Trisha Paytas]

the liposuction to get the fat out.

[Moses]

So that's what I'm saying. He's like, hey, I'll get you a free liposuction.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, now we're all speculating, and we're losing.

[Moses]

Allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

In your opinion.

[Trisha Paytas]

Allegedly. All entertainment purposes. Literally. We lost the plot the first five minutes.

[Oscar Gracie]

But to make assumptions about people and go on rants. So why can't we, period?

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll follow up with that Benihana hat. Wait, before you put the headphones on, I wanted to show the hat. My meal is at Benihana. The Trish Trio. There's signage out front. There's. There's the inserts in the menu. And I saw someone posing with a sign at the San Gabriel location. So I'm on the hunt to find those signs everywhere. I didn't know there was going to be signs, but I'm here for it. I was. When we went yesterday, I was like, you know, we saw the inserts, but I was, like, ready to see signs.

[Moses]

I know there was a happy hour sign. It was a little pink from afar, like always, it's gonna be yours.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I was like, they're not gonna do that. And then we saw it.

[Moses]

But the one that opposed, it's like, you pick a big picture of you on the sign.

[Trisha Paytas]

Makes me very excited. So thank you guys who all gone to try the Trish Trio. Keep trying it. It's so good. We're off today. It was so good. And we got the butters. You got the lobster butter. I got the truffle butter.

[Moses]

Okay. By the way, I don't ever use butter ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

The lobster butter was insane. Like, I. And don't dump it on your steak. Just take for any of my steak. Like, every bite that I took of, like, rice, shrimp, everything. I took a little bit of the butter with the bite.

[Trisha Paytas]

You dumped each one.

[Moses]

Like, don't waste it all in one time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see.

[Moses]

Like, savor it for everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did pour mine over the steak, but. Yeah, but then I dipped it in. I did dip it in.

[Moses]

You did the truffle. I did the lobster one. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

They thought we were just like really big fans because we went in our Benihana shirts and they were just like, oh, big fans. And I was like, we love it, we love it.

[Moses]

You know her, she's not going to say, like,

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I definitely didn't.

[Oscar Gracie]

And you know, I am the inventor of the Trish Trio.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I wanted to say that. I was like, that's why I wish I like, my face was on there. But I guess that's why we go to the location where my face is in front. Like, that's me. That's me on there. But anyways, this was cool enough. So anyways, go get the Trish Trio today. The Crying on the Kitchen Floor, my memoir is available now to pre order everywhere. And I'll be in the UK next week. If you want to come see me at Royal Albert hall, there's a few tickets left. Oscar has vlogs. His name is Oscar Gracie on YouTube and his. Your vlog of your house tour was like, at 50k views, like today.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I didn't even try. Thank you for the update.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gosh. Well, it actually just pops up. I already watched it and it keeps popping up on my.

[Moses]

It is on their. Good suggestion. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a good thumb. You're just good at thumbnails, which is like, not fair because you were just so good. I always thought that before I knew people could help me with thumbnails, I was like, that's not fair. Someone has a good thumbnail because of course you're going to click on a nice thumbnail. No, it was good content too. It was a really good content, really good thumbnail. And I was very. I was very happy it was sponsored. Check it out. Go support Oscar. It looks beautiful. I can't wait to go see it. And on our Patreon, we're going to react to me seeing it for the first time next week. And I'm very excited. I love seeing houses.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I'm glad we delayed it a week because my aquarium, my saltwater tank, I had a fish emergency. So, yeah, I'm glad that I woke up to it this morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened? I didn't know that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, I didn't know either until I woke up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, well, you came in. You should have said, like, there was a fish emergency.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, I. There's no fish in it yet. There was a. Was maybe is. It's hard to say there was a piece of coral in there, but there was all of a sudden I can't see into the tank. It had an algae bloom, I guess. So everything is all green. So I do have to. Trish, investigate that when I. When I get home.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so confused. Is this, like, not normal?

[Oscar Gracie]

It is normal. Like when the tank is, like, becoming an ecosystem or whatever. But it was shocking. It was definitely shocking. And, like, it looks bad because you can't see into the tank. So it's like in Finding Nemo, whenever

[Moses]

you kill your fish if it goes too much.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah. So I gotta get it under control.

[Trisha Paytas]

But there's no fish in there.

[Moses]

Is it only a coral? So probably the coral had some algae on it. Is it too warm?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, sometimes it's the light. But also, like, the. When the ecosystem becomes a thing because there's, like, bacteria and stuff in the water that has to settle. It's a whole, like, scientific thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

So.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Any salt water girls out there, give me some help because I'm struggling. This is. This is tough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you have to empty it?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I just have to, like, stuff. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it maybe something wrong with the tank from Facebook Marketplace? Maybe it was a knockoff or something.

[Oscar Gracie]

Full price, you guys. That's the message of the story. I think it's okay.

[Moses]

But it's not that tank.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It's something that's alive in the water.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So you just need to. It's like our pool. You remember our pool one time turned green.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it did. We had to, like, drain it.

[Moses]

You have to. After the.

[Trisha Paytas]

What happened?

[Moses]

Because we had so much rain and there was so much runoff into the pool. So you. Like I said, you get bacteria in the water and it's warm and it grows really fast. But anyway, just like we balance the water in the pool. He has to do that. The same thing. Find the right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well. Why is it matter if the coral is in there?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, the coral is alive, so I don't want it to pass away.

[Moses]

The coral is like a plant, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. It's not like a heartbeat in there or a brain.

[Moses]

It's alive.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's alive.

[Moses]

But yeah, it's like a living rock or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses was vegetarian for 15 years, okay. And he's like, I can't eat things that are, like, conscious or whatever. But then you're like, plants are conscious. So in theory, you can't eat anything because everything has conscious. Unless you're gonna eat rocks.

[Moses]

Wait, Billie Eilish.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now what? What's Billie Eilish have to do with it? She's against quarrelling. I'm so confused. What's happening?

[Moses]

She posts. She's been posting lots of stories about people shouldn't eat meat and.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Things. And. And people are backlashing at her. Like, whoa, what's going on? Everyone is fighting with everyone.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She post. She did an interview promoting her movie, and she said that her hot take is, you can't say you love animals if you eat meat because the meat industry is, like, terrible for the environment and for animals. And then that sparked a whole debate.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I feel like we shouldn't even talk. That's, like, worse than talking about politics. It's like, I don't even know if we should weigh in on that.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Moses]

We're not. We're just mentioning that it's happened. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And it's like, it's one of those things where it's like, everyone's got an opinion. I don't think anyone is, you know, wrong necessarily. But, like, people are really mad at Billy, I guess. People who do love animals, but then also eat a little chicken nugget every now and then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

But, I mean, it's just the girl's opinion. Is it really that big of a drama? Not to me. I just kept it moving. Still, like, the girl, I think she. At least she has beliefs and thoughts and a platform, and she's using it. Like, come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Sometimes thoughts are overrated. Someone. I saw a TikTok, and I say that because I say it about me. Someone did a TikTok. And they're like, the reason Trisha is so good at manifesting is because she's a bimbo, though. And she, like, it doesn't. She doesn't think about anything. And I was like, okay. Like, I kind of liked it. And I like the way I liked where she was going because I was, like, just really intelligent. Like, yeah, she's helpful. Like, I like what she was thinking. I think, like, I saw someone else talk about this too, where just, like, maybe just, like, underthink everything, you know? Like, I think, like, so many people overthink, including me. Like, so many things, and then sometimes you just think on things, and sometimes you just need to not think at all.

[Oscar Gracie]

Kind of like Maddie and Euphoria, when she's like, I'm in a state of pure harmony. And she really is. Yeah, that is kind of you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I think if you really just feel that, I think it's like, yeah, I think you can manifest anything. Right. If you have, like, no thoughts at all, just manifest. Like, you know, like, I go eat at Benihana okay, there's a meal there at Benihana. Oh, I talk about my life. Oh, there's a life story about me now. You know what I mean? I think it just all flows through you, whatever you're doing.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

You know, also, if you don't have thoughts, it means because most people, their thoughts are negative and they work against them and they manifest bad things. That's already a good start. You're not working against yourself. Ground zero. You're not constantly dwelling on negative thoughts. And so that's already a good start to stop thinking.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's my take, separate from the Billie Eilish take. But I agree. Yeah, but people we have lost. There's some people who are just, like, so opinionated and just say everything that comes to their mind. And then there's people who, like, are scared to share opinions. So I think maybe just somewhere in the middle is great.

[Oscar Gracie]

And I think you separate, like, opinions. Like, you can have a difference of opinion without them, like, thinking someone is the worst person in the world. Like, sometimes people just have different ideas. As long as it's not, like, morally compromising, a la James Charles Dickinson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

Then what's, like, the harm? You got to just respect that everyone's gonna have a different pov.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes people get so mad. I mean, I saw one TikTok where literally someone was putting, like, pineapples on their pizza, and people were just, like, literally in the comments, were, like, pissed about it. Like, generally pissed. They're just like, this is. This is insane. Like, people just do this to rage bait. And then there was another group to Hawaiians.

[Oscar Gracie]

Offensive to Italians. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the pizza and the pineapple combination. I didn't think about that. But, yeah, I guess there's a whole group that I can find. But people get so, so mad. Or, like, people who want kids versus people who don't have kids. Like, people get really mad about that, too. It's like, damn, there's just no winning.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's why. Just speak your mind and don't check the comments.

[Trisha Paytas]

Speak your mind. Yeah, right. Speak it offline, I suppose. I don't know. Start a podcast and speak it. Then at least you monetize your opinion. There's ways around it for sure. Watch the Kevin Hart roast last night.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, okay.

[Moses]

There's a lot of clips from that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it's not in our sphere. I literally was like, all the people who went up there, I'm like, again, Twitter, Twitter. We need a segment of just, like, Twitter debauchery. Because I'm like, What is even this? It's just like I didn't know, I really didn't know anybody that was up there. Just people being mean. I knew Chelsea Handler. That's why I thought of it.

[Moses]

Katt Williams, Pete Davidson. I mean, those are the three that got the highlights. Chelsea, Katt, Williams, Davidson. They're the main.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pete Davidson. That woman broke up the, what was her name?

[Moses]

Sorry, I don't want to be Kim Kardashian.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. What the money. Had the baby with.

[Moses]

Are they not together?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she just spent Mother's Day alone.

[Oscar Gracie]

Hewitt.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they, are they split up?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think they're having a break.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, they're figuring out their relationship, quote, unquote. Figuring.

[Moses]

You mean there's a baby there? What's where they figuring out their relationship?

[Trisha Paytas]

They're figuring out. I, I, I think he, I don't like to diagnose him, but maybe, like there's maybe something wrong with him. You know what I mean?

[Moses]

I think he says it himself.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, all comedians are like that. Huh. Theovon also says that, that it's hard to find.

[Oscar Gracie]

He's always been, he has borderline as well.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, maybe he, maybe he just needs to go to like some group therapy or something. It helps. Maybe he needs to be thoughtless too, a little. What is that called?

[Oscar Gracie]

Shoot.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's been so long since I went to dbt. Wise mind. He needs a little wise mind in his life. I don't know. I don't want to dine. Oh, he said diagnosis.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think he diagnosed himself. He has come forward with this diagnosis.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'd love to be a sponsor. I feel like I could help him through. I feel bad for him. I feel bad. Well, I also feel bad for the women because obviously the women are getting hurt by him. And it's just like, damn. I also feel bad for him, like he can't keep it, you know, together. Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, I think he's figuring things out. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think he's pretty low key these days, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, not the Kevin Hart roast.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. But that's him working versus, like him putting his own personal life out there like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we shouldn't speculate as much.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's, you know, he's removing his tattoos. He's going through a whole physical and emotional journey right now since becoming a dad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I support it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. My sister in law, actually, speaking of mental health, Mother's Day, she was like, and she's very like, offline, but she, I think Maybe because of euphoria or something. She was like, you know what I love about Trisha is that, like, she's very open about like her mental health, especially because with all the trauma that she must have, especially like as a sex worker and how she's open about that, like, that is so commendable. And she's. She's a child therapist, by the way, so she's very into all of that. She's like. And she was talking about like your bpd and she's like. So she was explaining to my brother. She's like, yeah, like, usually it's hard to diagnose BPD until really later on, but it's very common if you have, like, if you go through a lot of trauma. And she was like explaining to him. It was so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. This is what I know. Or not.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she's the one that came for Elvis's birthday last year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Moses]

In the gym class.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love her.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She's like, she's got very offline. So it's funny that she was viewing you. You through the mental health professional.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder what made her think of that. Like you said, euphoria. But then it's like, how did she go from that to like, I think

[Oscar Gracie]

the plot of Euphoria being so much about like sex work and stuff. And I think she was thinking the real life ramifications of it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, interesting. That's actually so sweet. I know. I even see a lot of people, like, comparisons, like my butterfly top that I wore to Cassie's butterfly top. But I was like, there is a lot. There's a lot there. The ASMR of it all. Moses is still convinced that they watch. Watched my ASMR ear video for that.

[Moses]

I was like, there are a lot of research that's. They do research and they're like, okay, this is our prototype. This is what we model it after.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would, I don't know if I'm honored or whatever. I don't know. Well, I love that. And yeah, may as mental health awareness. I should talk about it more. I feel like if there's one thing I should do is probably talk about it more because I do feel like I've been like thriving and I feel like I need to talk more about like there's. It's. Sometimes you still. You still go through it sometimes. You still gotta recognize those triggers and you still gotta like, work on it every single day. I do go to therapy too. I do go to therapy once a week. Via zoom. I should probably go in person. I'm not an in person one. I don't know. How do you feel about in person therapy?

[Oscar Gracie]

I used to go. I mean, the first time I went, I was in, like, fourth grade and. But I didn't know it was therapy. Like, my parents wouldn't tell me what it was until, like, later on when I became more conscious. I guess I realized it was therapy, if that makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they're like, you're just gonna go talk to someone.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. That was that approach.

[Oscar Gracie]

My agoraphobia era.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you should talk about that more. Like, that's so interesting.

[Oscar Gracie]

I just don't have much memory of it even, Like, I didn't even know it was agoraphobia until, like, a couple years ago because my mom was like, yeah, when you were agoraphobic? And I was like, oh, I was agoraphobic because I knew I had a thing where I was, like, really anxious about leaving the house. Or like, I was very triggered by, like, restaurants and movie theaters specifically. But I didn't know it was actually agoraphobia. Like, I didn't know it was ever diagnosed. But I know when I went to therapy, like, I would go in first and then my parents would go in after and do, like, the debrief. So I'm assuming that's when I got diagnosed, I guess. But yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then what was the cure? Like, exposure therapy?

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess so, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Going out and doing it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I mean, I got some. I got some kind of medication, I think, just for anxiety. Nothing like intense. It was kind of like an herbal probably, like maybe even like a snake oil kind of thing, honestly, because it was like a. A drops that you mix in with your water. It's like, that's supposed to make you, like, less anxious or something, but that was it. And then. Yeah, just like, I think just talking it through. But I'm sure there's, like, levels, like, some people have agoraphobia really bad, where they can't leave at all. For me, it was, like, very specific places.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, and, you know, you, like, love going to restaurants and movies.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. They're, like, the only places they go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I mean, that's kind of cool. That's a good, like, turnaround. You know what I mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. Yeah. It's funny because, like, I literally did not know that I was diagnosed at that at some point, so. And my mom, when she brought it up, it was like, so, like, just. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Casually.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When did you find out?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, maybe two Years ago that it was actually agoraphobia. Yeah. Like, really recently.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. When you were agoraphobic, like, it just came up so randomly, and I was like, okay. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, for future therapies. Yeah. Well, your social is right. Like, I feel like with, like, borderline, like, it is, like, one of those things where it's, like, probably hard to diagnose until, like, slaps you in the face. Right. It's like, oh, well, this is. I think when I finally got it in 2019, I think it was very, like, glaringly obvious. I think it was like, this is. This is exactly what you have. But I'm sure there's, like, traits of everything, right? Like, there's traits of, like, narcissism and ocd. Like, there's traits of everything, but it's like, knowing. Exactly. But it really is just also, like, you kind of have to do the therapy to, like, kind of like. Like, the DBT was like, oh, yeah, this helped me. But it's not. It kind of. It's kind of hard because it's so close to, like, bipolar, too. And it's like, there's just different things for different people. Thank you so much. Today's sponsor, Olipop. Their summer flavors are here. The raspberry sherbet and BlackBerry vanilla are back. The BlackBerry vanilla is back. Let's crack it open and celebrate. That. Tastes like nostalgia. This combination of BlackBerry tartness and smooth creaminess of vanilla is just such a perfect combination. Perfect for summer. This was back in 2022 that this came out, and I was, like, so obsessed. But it's here to stay. Cause everybody wanted this drink back. It is one of their best flavors. It is so delicious. BlackBerry vanilla has 9 grams of fiber. Absolutely. Sign me up. As protein is going up, you also need fiber to go up to support that digestive house. So with nine grams in here, not only are you getting a tasty drink, you're also getting your fibrin. Okay. That's right. Olipop is a new kind of soda that combines a classic soda taste with the benefits of a functional ingredient blend to support digestive health. Olipop is reimagining soda with high fiber and low sugar. BlackBerry vanilla also has only 5 grams of sugar compared to traditional sodas that sometimes have 50 grams of sugar. So insane. We should not be drinking our sugars. Okay. Love that. Olipop is finding a healthier way to soda, because soda just feels good, right? It's summertime. We want to just crack open a drink at the end of the day we're out by the pool, we want something refreshing and tasting. And let me tell you the new flavors. BlackBerry, vanilla, Raspberry sherbet from Ollipop. They taste like summer in your mouth. So bring them to the beach, bring them to the pool, Bring them to the kiddie pool. Heck, enjoy them inside in the air conditioning, whatever it is. Get those summer feels with the new Olipop flavors. And guess what? You can get a free can of Olipop today. That's right. Buy two cans in store and they will pay you back for one. Works on single cans of any flavor at any retailer. Go to drinkalipop.com trish for more information. Also find where you can buy them if you want to buy them online or if you want to buy them in stores, they are available everywhere, like Walmart, Target, local grocery stores, Olipop. Get it today. Drinkalipop.com Trish thank you so much to Olipop for sponsoring today's episode.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, and you have to be treated for something. It's like trial and error. Like, they treat you for one thing and you get medicated for one thing. But they don't know if it works for like a couple months. So you go down these, like, different paths to getting treated for different things. But, like, nothing. Nothing works. So then they have to, like, switch the diagnosis and try something else.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's exactly what happened to me. I talk about my book a little bit, but, like, getting a bipolar diagnosis. They gave me like, medication for it. And I remember just being like, awful on it. But I really thought that was what was quote, unquote wrong with me for so long because I would, like, switch so quickly, you know, And I was like, oh, it's definitely bipolar. But that medication was like, not it. Yeah, you gotta just try it out and be supervised through it all because it's. Yeah, it was dark. I know when I see. I see a lot of those edits of me, I'm like, just like crying on the kitchen floor. No. No promotion intended. But I like, I see so many of those edits and people like, this is what I'm going through right now. And it's like, damn, that's really low. It's really dark.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I think you really see it the most. I mean, when we react to like your rants about other people's. When you see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, it's the one I remember the most when we reacted to Tati Dumb as hell. And that one, like, you're. I don't even know how to explain it, like, your energy is just different. Like, there is, like, a anger. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like James Charles calling that girl anger. Like, it is. That's what I'm saying. Like, there is, and it's scary. It is scary. I remember that one, and I remember that I did a Anthony Padilla one where it's like, I kind of, still, like, know what I was going through at the time, how I executed. My. My reaction was bad, but I remember, like, that video, too. It's like, that was like, days before I met Moses. I remember, and I'm, like, screaming at Anthony Padilla and, like, just going nuts and all this stuff like that. Like, I. I look at my eyes there and I remember it so, like, vividly. Like, I was so empty. Like, I just remember being, like. Like having no feeling. Like, it's like. I don't know how to explain it. Like, you know, there's, like, depression. That was, like, 2019. There's, like, a depression area where you're, like, feeling so many feelings, and you just are like, my heart's broken. Nobody loves me. All that stuff like that. But the 2020 era, like, right before I met Moses, like, January to, like, March, basically. And I, like, saw it in that. The Anthony one. It's, like, literally lifeless, where I don't even remember, like, existing. Like, I don't even know what I was doing between January, March. I don't. I don't remember having any thoughts. I remember being, like, completely numb. I guess I was, like, on a lot of Xanax, I guess, back then. So maybe that's why. Maybe it was, like, I was just completely numb, I guess, like, when I met you, I guess it was very much like I wasn't there. Like, I always wondered that with, like, Moses early on, which I think when we talk, when I was talking about, like, the book and, like, going through it, there is a therapy, someone said, like, a timeline therapy. Have you ever heard of that?

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone suggested it for Taylor, Frankie, Paul. And, like, I guess, like, what I did with the book is timeline therapy in a sense, because it's, like, really, like, going through and, like, writing down all the events in, like, chronological order of your, like, life, which is basically what you do with a book. But it can be very, like, therapeutic. Maybe there's more to it. You guys let me know if I'm getting timeline therapy wrong, because I don't know. I literally just heard it yesterday when someone's like, taylor, Frankie, Paul needs timeline therapy. And it's like, going through all the events of your Life, and it just sparks, like, so many things. And then when I was thinking about, like, when we first met, like, I remember the bullet points, but oh, my God, those first, like, two weeks.

[Moses]

That's what I'm afraid of that book, because it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I didn't write about things I don't remember.

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Moses]

But also the way we remember things. Because, like, you also don't remember certain conversations we had or moments that happened. So there's. Yeah, that too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I really was just, like. It's a blur. You want to fill in the blur of those two weeks?

[Moses]

Well, once I see the book.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I really just. Like I said, I really was, like, just a blur. And I just remember. I remember all the time you coming over and me just, like, falling asleep. Like, I'd always just, like, fall asleep in his lap. Like, as soon as he come over,

[Moses]

I'm like, that'd be later. Like, we would watch a movie at the end of the day, the night, and then he would fall asleep.

[Trisha Paytas]

But sometimes I feel like at the beginning, it was just, like, straight asleep.

[Moses]

No, we would. No, we would talk.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember so specifically watching 98 Fiance that first week. And I'd just always be like, falling asleep in the middle of the day, and I'm like, I wonder what he thinks. Like, you ever would go, like, the very first week of quarantine, and we would go, like, drive to, like, Playa del Rey to get, like, a smoothie and back or whatever, which was, like, 45 minutes from my house, and I just come back and, like, fall asleep. And you were never, like.

[Moses]

That's why I'm saying you don't remember. You don't remember. There's so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why is she so sleepy? You never thought that there was so

[Moses]

much happening before you went to sleep?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what was happening before I went to sleep?

[Moses]

We were just hanging out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I just, like, constantly falling asleep. I remember. All I remember is, like, constantly falling asleep. You taking pictures of the clouds and then also talking about the Bible. Moses would just always, like, I would. Because he would drive to me so that I would drive because I had, like. Oh, I don't think the pink Rolls Royster. But I would drive to, like, the beach or something. Like, if he drove to me, I would drive then. And then he would just be, like, in the car taking pictures of clouds. Like, the entire car ride. And I was like, are you okay? It was very weird.

[Moses]

There was one car, right? Because we were driving back on the four or five, and, you know, you go up, and there was, like, this crazy clouds over the mountain. So that was that moment. That's what I'm saying. But your memory is like. That's what happens. No, but I'm saying you remember that as more than what it was, and you remember less of things.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I remember you going to the beach to, like, do something weird with clouds, too. And then you're like, the police are here.

[Moses]

Yeah, no, that was. There was. You know, when there's the bioluminescent.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses]

So I went to the ocean at night to film the waves, you know, because, like, they'll crash and they get all glowy blue and all that. But it was quarantined, and you weren't supposed to go to the ocean. But it's, like, nighttime, pitch black. There's nobody there. And Suddenly, like, two ATVs with, like, six officers just jump on me. They're like, what are you doing here? I'm like, guys, first of all, six feet back, like, they're all standing in front of me talking to him, like. And like, they were so serious about it. They were so, like, angry.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you didn't get your. Your footage? With the footage back then of the clouds? There was no. You weren't doing TikTok. What were you doing with the clouds and the waves?

[Moses]

I would upload between Instagram or YouTube.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyways, let's find my cloud channel.

[Oscar Gracie]

We can react. I know I would actually love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's the. Where's the cloud footage? I know you did the water stuff, but where's.

[Moses]

I have a lot of. I used to do time lapse. I have a lot of time lapse. Even in my time lapse in my Instagram. If you go back, back, back. Lots of time lapses from the beginning.

[Oscar Gracie]

I need to know how many time lapses she walked in front of, because I know, Cam.

[Trisha Paytas]

While at the honeymoon, I forgot. Wow. I didn't know. I didn't know that's what he was doing. I was like, oh, he's just. I don't. You know, I had no idea what you were doing. I guess. I don't know. I was still a little out of it. But, you know, I added to it. I added to the ambiance.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, you were part of the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was your mark. Where was that? That was in the Maldives.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So funny. Great times together, we could just go through all that. But maybe for your book, maybe your memoir that comes out. It was great.

[Moses]

The kitchen floor. I saw this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's out already. Well, the music Video. Oh, yes. Okay. Yes, that is out. The music video about why this is out. It comes out tomorrow.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

So check out my new song. Love the transition. Thank you. With the music video that we recreated

[Moses]

with Use a time machine to go back.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was really cool. We recreated the entire kitchen floor because they wouldn't let us film at the original apartment buildings. And we recreated it with my kids and Moses. And then we did all the Trish characters come to life. So if you guys want to see that, check it out on my main channel. We didn't give you a shout out. Oh, you're already standing. Okay. I wanted to give you a shout out and then we can. I promise we'll get the Hot Topic likes. What is. Oh, yes. I meant just our. The clouds and all that. I don't know if that's exciting. It's exciting to me, but. Okay. Shout out to Moses. Oh, he took the Chef Howa off for Moses cooking videos. Chef Moses, Moses cooking videos. He has his famous Bolognese recipe on there. Check it out. What are you cooking today?

[Moses]

I might do some appetizer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what kind of appetizers?

[Moses]

You know, the stacked potatoes. But I think I'm gonna make, like, three, four different versions of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so jealous that I'm not gonna be here. I'm going to Benihana and you're gonna make. No, you're. You ended up with me yesterday. You don't. You love it. But do you love it that much? Well, we're gonna go again this week, so.

[Moses]

Yeah, I do. Like, they have now a new steak, Wagyu. That was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sounds like a Betty had an ad. Right.

[Moses]

Sorry. It's real, you know. Good.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's good.

[Moses]

Anyway, but the stacked potatoes, that's one of her favorites all time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the stacked potatoes. It's our favorite thing at Thanksgiving and Christmas. I can't believe you're gonna make them. I feel like you should be something I don't like, like shishuka or something. Like, he's like, I'm gonna make your crispy potato favorite appetizer while you're gone.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm like, and you come back full.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so full. When I had Benihan yesterday, that's all I ate the whole day. I was so full.

[Moses]

First of all. Well, usually I make, like, the second round for you if you come back and then offer dinner.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess they're like my favorite makes at Thanksgiving. He's like, I'm making them today.

[Moses]

I was like, I'll make them any day you want.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh, I'm so sad. I'd be missing out. Okay.

[Moses]

Because I have to do something quick, something shorter today because we're all right.

[Trisha Paytas]

What time are they gonna be done? We guess I have a little appetizer before I go. Maybe we can have it, but I don't know how fast they're gonna be. Are you a potato person?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I am a potato.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's your favorite kind of potato?

[Oscar Gracie]

Probably the potato balls. They're not just Cuban. I was, but I think they're just different.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

Versions of it. But yeah, like the breaded because even KFC has a version of it.

[Moses]

So I don't think it's like a mashed potato that's deep fried. And bread.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, the breadcrumbs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it just mashed potato in there?

[Oscar Gracie]

Huh? We got them for on a Patreon one day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I'd love those. I didn't know those were just mashed potatoes. I thought they were like cheesy something. But they were just mashed potatoes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Oh, no. Maybe the KFC ones did have.

[Moses]

Yeah, they might have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuban ones are just mashed potato.

[Oscar Gracie]

The Cuban ones have meat inside either. Mostly beef, like a ground beef, but sometimes chicken.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you make potato balls?

[Moses]

Yeah. The best one is the Japanese one. The croquet.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

To try that one too. Okay. I love that. That's a great one.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's my favorite potato, I think because you get best of both worlds. You get the crisp but also like the mash.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, mash inside a warm mash. Does sound great. You should figure out how to make those. Those are really good. I like a curly fry.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yes. Love a curly fry.

[Trisha Paytas]

And a baked potato too. I like you baked potato person.

[Oscar Gracie]

I had I don't think I've had a baked potato, to be honest with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar. What?

[Oscar Gracie]

The concept doesn't tickle me, but like, maybe if I tried it, I would like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm surprised you never had one. I feel like. Oh, even when we've gotten Wendy's, you've never.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, my mom loves a Wendy's. Me too, but I haven't gotten one.

[Trisha Paytas]

We always used to order those when I was like pregnant. Like Wendy's and. Oh my God. God, they must have our order a couple times. And then I was like, okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then you were sick of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I did.

[Oscar Gracie]

See, I was on Tik Tok and then I was also cleaning at the same time, which don't be on Tik Tok and clean, because then I got stuck on. Luckily it was a video of you, but I got stuck on one as I was like doing the dishes so I couldn't like go back and swipe. But it was like the. The Trisha Paytas McDonald massacre. And it was like you went to three McDonald's and they messed up your breakfast sandwich. Your egg McMuffin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, I so remember that. Which is crazy because our one right here never ever messes it up, ever. I. I get is like an egg and a McMuffin. Like I. Basically a McMuffin. I say no cheese, no meat. And then everyone did and I. And you can't peel off the cheese cuz it's like melted.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Yeah, you went to three and it was just like stuck. It was like a dramatic edit of that and it was playing on loop like 15 minutes. But luckily I was pretty seated throughout it.

[Trisha Paytas]

So was there a resolution?

[Oscar Gracie]

I went. You actually know by the third one you did get.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got it right.

[Oscar Gracie]

Got it right. Yes. But you did say your day was ruined after the first one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Who do I sound like? Who just did that? Someone. Someone who's dramatic about who was it not James Charles? Who else did something dramatic? Huh?

[Moses]

The froyo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, dummy. No. Maybe just always saying my day is ruined. The steak. When it wasn't daylight out, I was like, I ruined. Maybe it's just me. I know I've had like a weird aversion to McDonald's lately. Like, I want to go and like try their dirty sodas. But I don't know, like every time I think about going there, I'm like, like, no, it has nothing to do with the people that work there. I don't know, it's just like there's a weird Force field around it that, like, I don't. I, like, think about going because it's right by my loud ticket place.

[Oscar Gracie]

Maybe because you cosplayed as Ice Spice, so you feel too close to her, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

You feel a little like.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like you haven't had it since Ice Spice got in the fight there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if I've had it in, like, years, but you might be right.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, not years. You just had the K Pop Demon Hunters meal. And that was last month.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I did. Yeah, that was. That was.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yours is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, but before that, maybe I guess I do get a fry once. Okay, maybe a little. They have dirty sodas and I want to try them, but I don't know. Like, I don't know if it's my jam anymore. Maybe their fries are good, I guess.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're right. I guess if they have a good meal, but they don't have the Trish meal. I remember I always wanted a Trish. Me. I remember they used to come out with meals like Angel Reese. Yes, yes. Angel Reese offset. I think J. Belvin had one, I think, at one point. Yes, obviously, yes. And I was like, oh, I want one meal there so bad. And now I have a meal Bunny, hold on. And I was like, so much better. And the food is so much better. Not to. Again, that's not an ad for Benihana. But, like, the food is such good quality. Like, every time we go, like, doesn't miss. It was, like, really amazing. But anyways, the Ice spice. Oh, but the ice spice thing did influence me to go sit inside a fast food restaurant. Like, I do love to sit inside of, like, a Taco Bell or something. Like, I went. Who would have one day sit in Panera? I went to go sit in a Panera the other day by myself. I was giving nostalgia because, you know, like, back in the day, they used to be really fancy. And you'd go sit in there and have the Mac and cheese bowl with the bread, and I had that. It was really good. Although I do think about those lemonades that. Did it kill somebody?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes,

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm not laughing at that. Just the way that you brought it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I just thought about that. But that's. Oh, my God. That's okay. That's so scary. I'm so scared to order, like, any, like, drink like that ever. Because it's like, any sort of lemonade. Because it's like, what? Like, that's terrifying.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, maybe they should stop energy drinks. I think if I was congresswoman again. I think I would ban energy drinks. I know you'd hate that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I do hate that. I would be like, your opposition. I would run just to, like. Yeah, just to counteract.

[Trisha Paytas]

You put out the ads against me.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes, but no, for Trish. I think just like any other thing, drink responsibly. Especially. I think there was a lawsuit. I forget which brand of energy drink, but, like, a teenager had died from having too many energy drinks, but she was having, like, six a day. And she was also, like, 16 years old. So, like. And that's. That's 200 milligrams of caffeine per, like, can.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

So if you're having six of those, you're a teenager. Like, that's really dangerous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe they should put, like, an age limit on them, like 18. Because maybe you don't know. Like, as a teenager, like, your parents buy a stack. Like, we have all the Kim Kardashian ones out there. Right. You buy a stack and it's like, you don't know. Like, you don't know. You just think they're like, even me with Diet Cokes, back in the day, I would drink like seven of them a day. Obviously, like, it didn't kill me, but, like, you just think they're like, water. It's your hydration. If I was thirsty, I'd take a Diet Coke, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Maybe a label or something. Because also, I don't know if people know. I think, think typically for an adult, like, the recommended caffeine limit is, I think, 1200. So, like, two. You're at max. Yeah, like, that's the max that you should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Seems high. It seems like a lot of caffeine. I feel like you should have zero.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, wait, no, wait. Maybe 400. I forget. I know two cans is supposed to be, like, your max, so let me fact check myself.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think also people should just chill on caffeine sometimes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. I did the math so wrong. I knew it was. It is two cans, 400 milligrams, not 1200. 1200. You'll die.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, 1200 seems like a lie. I was like, maybe just two cans of 400. Oh, my gosh. What's like a cup of coffee?

[Oscar Gracie]

Great question.

[Moses]

Depends how many shots do of caffeine of espresso.

[Oscar Gracie]

Typically, I guess in one cup of coffee is 95 milligrams. But yeah, it depends. It can be, like, up to 320 milligrams.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Whenever I get a coffee, I always drink like, half of it or like a quarter of It. Because I get scared. Weird. I don't know. I. I was, like, literally gonna get my phone to Moses, and I was like, this has 2.4 million views. YouTube breakup videos are so funny because. What do you mean? You post like this for a thumbnail, and that's a thumbnail.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, my God. I saw that yesterday, too. That comes up every now and then.

[Trisha Paytas]

Daniel and Joey. Have you ever seen it?

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You weren't seated at this time for a Joey Graceffa video?

[Moses]

He was nothing with fear at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

You didn't know who Joey Graceffa was?

[Moses]

No, I knew. Like, filthy Frank and idubbbz. Not soy cursive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Very random.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you remember this?

[Oscar Gracie]

I edited that, Mama.

[Trisha Paytas]

You edited the thumbnail?

[Oscar Gracie]

I didn't. I think I picked the thumbnail. So to clarify. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were they posing? Were they doing.

[Oscar Gracie]

They didn't pose. I think that was just a still from the video that I. I.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is how they were in the video.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were posing in that. It was like me when I didn't know how to make a thumbnail. And you would just, like, put. You would pose in the video hoping that yout would capture that thumbnail moment. There's no way they were just sitting like that talking about their breakup.

[Oscar Gracie]

I thought he was crying. Like, Joey started crying, and then he put his head into Daniel's neck, and then Daniel put his arm around him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, now it's not on the neck. How did it get up to the head?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, whatever. You know what I mean.

[Moses]

So they were the original Jake Webber and Terayami.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, but there were four of them. I'm sure there had to be breakups.

[Trisha Paytas]

Breakups that became state friends breakups or breakup videos before them.

[Moses]

Breakup videos.

[Oscar Gracie]

Breakup videos. And then.

[Moses]

Yeah. Did David Dobrik happen before that?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think they were after.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it actually.

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it was before.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, because that was 2020.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Liza and David were what, 20.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is 2020. They broke up.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, because I was working for him. Yeah, because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

They broke up. 20. Then they didn't announce it for a minute because Daniel was still living there and I was working for him, so. And I started working 2020, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, therapy timeline right now.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I know. For me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Wait, that's crazy. I wonder who the original. Because underneath this thread was other breakup videos. I wonder who the original was. Oh, that's so funny. And then underneath it. And now they're getting back together. You're right. Their original Tariyami. Jake Webber. Although they told us not to speculate. And here we are speculating after their patreon.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or talk about it. But they didn't tell us. They just said to the public.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yes. Daniel and Joey a little bit different because they were. I don't know if they still are, obviously. And they've confessed this themselves. That they were still, like, hooking up with each other for a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

They confessed it where?

[Oscar Gracie]

In one of those white wall. It was a video where Daniel also shaded Connor, Franta.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, were they drinking? Like a shot video?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, it's one of those where they talked about. And also every other Q A that they do, they talk about, like, how they're working out, hooking up or whatever. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I feel like they didn't admit that, you know what I mean? Until later. And then you're just like. Like, right. Like at the beginning, they're like, oh, we're just friends.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even though they probably were. You know, I think that's the whole pipeline. Yeah, well. Oh, Jeffrey just did one by himself that we broke up. Just. I like that breakup video. Just do it by yourself. Honestly, like, yours were always like that. Yeah, well, there's no way in hell that's an amicable breakup. If it's me, no one's sitting next to me and being like, we broke up.

[Oscar Gracie]

Not even the damn cardboard cutout was sitting next to you, honey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, ran fast. They ran fast. Who are these people? That 10 million views. Who's that?

[Oscar Gracie]

Who is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't know? I don't know either.

[Oscar Gracie]

We are breaking up. Who's the name?

[Trisha Paytas]

Why they. Why are people posing so dramatically? Like, why is that like. Or do you think she was. Maybe she was covering her mouth.

[Oscar Gracie]

He's smiling. Who the hell is that? That seems like someone Moses would know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses. Do you know popular MMOs? He's like, yes, I do know them, actually. Who knows them? Wow. Because it says, this one hurt me for a long time.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who the hell is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone let us know. So sorry to the popular MMOs, but I still remember this YouTuber who told us the viewers in her told us the viewers in our couple's breakup videos. I want you to know it's not your guys's fault. Like, what would it be so sad Ian and Anthony couldn't make it work. That's so funny. All right, wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm going. I just googled, like, most famous breakup, like, YouTuber breakups.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

They have Jim Chapman and Tanya Burr. You remember Tanya. She was friends with Zoella. She was it was. Oh, you totally did. You missed the Zoella era.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hated this era. I remember Joey was like, the British Invasion. Not a thing. Not happening. It wasn't happening.

[Oscar Gracie]

Thing you ate in the brick.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was not a thing. Right. Like, people were trying to make it a thing. And I get they were getting views over in, like, England, but I don't think it was here. No offense. Going to England soon. But I don't think that was a thing.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, mama. Because they had, like. They did a playlist. Not playlist. Live. Like one of those. Maybe. Or maybe they just try to do a meetup. And I remember they had to shut it down, like, somewhere on the east coast because it was the first time the Brits were here doing a meetup. And it was like, pandemonium.

[Trisha Paytas]

No footage of this. There's no way. Pandemonium. For Jim and Tanya.

[Oscar Gracie]

For Jim and Tanya and Zoella and Joe and Alfie and. What's his name? Casper. Casper Lee. There we go. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just made these names.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, although I think Casper was from, like, Africa. Like, I think he was, like, from North Africa, but randomly he got grouped in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, the Brits were so.

[Trisha Paytas]

They didn't know the accent difference. Like. Oh, him too. Brennaman. Okay. That. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was. And they were like, we're eating American snacks. And I was like. I was. Yep. Thumbs up.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Who was like. Was it the, like, kids that were watching them?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think teens. I'm assuming I was a teen at the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think I ever watched a British YouTuber. No offense again, Coming over there soon. Love it, but I don't think I ever watched.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, Name like one besides Zoella and Sprinkle of Glitter now that you know her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sprinkle Glitter because we're oomphies. Zoella was that girl that went missing. Remember Marina Joyce? Was she British?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you remember her? I don't think everyone's like, what's wrong with Marina? Oh, she's okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

She is British.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she ever get found?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah. In 2016, people thought she was kidnapped.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah,

[Oscar Gracie]

I. Oh. Oh, is this Kat Tannenbart? No, it's from Business Insider. They did an article about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'd be crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, she is. They reached out to her for a statement, but she did. She wouldn't give them one, but I guess she's still around because they were able to reach out to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's British.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, okay. In 2019, she was found safe and well after 10 days missing. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, good.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But is she British?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she is. So you know.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, confirm. British. Yep.

[Trisha Paytas]

Brit and I know chicken chop date and Graham Norton and I don't know

[Oscar Gracie]

if Bram Norton's a YouTuber.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, well, he's kind of. I see him on YouTube all the time and that's it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. Work. Zoella was like the ringleader of the. The British group, but. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, I'm, you know, no disrespect, it wasn't in my field. Did you know them over there? You knew the Zoella?

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never heard of Zoella?

[Moses]

Could you describe her or something?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he just had the British invasion.

[Moses]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Guess what she did on YouTube.

[Moses]

Zookeeper.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a zootopia, I suppose. Okay, babe, you missed out on Cultural Zeitgeist.

[Oscar Gracie]

So did you know why Now I'm with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm going with you. I'm like, yes. This is when we watched her unbox or her apology for the advent calendar. So I kind of feel like I know where.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses]

Was she just influencer or was she doing something specific like makeup or.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's kind of just lifestyle vlog. A little bit of makeup, but not. She didn't do like tutorials. She kind of just like dressed cute and diy, I'm assuming. I kind of don't remember.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she. Has she ever made. Because you said she was quiet for a while.

[Oscar Gracie]

Come back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Has she been found?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know if she's like missing.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was right. She hasn't been posting everything. That's kind of weird.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I should follow her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Get a. Get a statement. Get a non statement statement.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, she still hasn't posted since January 1st.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. I hope she's okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

You were the. You were the one that was supposed to ask. Sprinkle of glitter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, I forgot. How's that When I go over there? Oh. Because like I'm gonna. Supposed to go. Is she in Brighton? Right. I was gonna go to Brighton.

[Oscar Gracie]

So yeah. A lot of things going on in Brighton.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me know where I should go in the uk. I don't have much time over there, but I would love to. I would love to do something like British that's not like Big Ben, you know, like what's like the Eye of London or something? You know, like something like really niche.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, but also. But touristy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. Isn't there. Oh no, I think that's. Isn't there like a bridge where you put a little lock on things?

[Trisha Paytas]

London Bridge.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I don't Well, I don't know if you put put locks on there, but maybe you can go to London Bridge and do a tick tock singing London Bridge by Fergie. That actually be really fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

London Bridge by Fergie.

[Oscar Gracie]

How come every time I come around my London, London bridge be coming down like London, London, we're going down like. I think it's about like her panties coming off.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she British? What does she mean, my London bridge? What? That's what therapist needs to ask. Like, what is it? What did you mean by this? There's no way there's a literal translation. What is you translating?

[Oscar Gracie]

My favorite lyric in your song is, how come every time I come around my London bridge, we've fallen down. So what does that mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Me and my co host often argue about this. What does that mean to you? She's like, what do you mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

It means my London bridge.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the London bridge is my pussy. I'm. So how do you interpret it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I thought that meant her panties are coming off. Let me see if it's like on lyric genius. Let's see London Bridge, London Bridge is going down lyrics. But I think you do need to make it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it was a British man going down on her. That's how come every time you come around my London bridge is going down.

[Oscar Gracie]

How come every time you come around my London London bridge want to go down like. Okay, I got the lyrics a little bit wrong, but same concept.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

How come every time you come around my London London bridge want to go down like London, London, London want to go down like London, London, London be going down like. Like drinks start pouring and my speech starts slurring. Everybody start looking real good. Okay. Okay. I can't believe you.

[Moses]

How I heard this song Sounds like, right? What you said.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know the song.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah. It's a famous song.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love this episode.

[Moses]

Asking Moses if he knows that song is really f. Like you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you a Fergie fan?

[Moses]

No, but it was a mainstream song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, never heard of it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I can't believe you haven't heard it. Okay, yes. The genius annotation says London Bridge refers to a woman's pain. Aunties. So period. I was right.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she just made that up. That's not like a thing. That's not a slang. I've never heard that. That's weird. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

When you're performing at the Royal Opera hall, you can ask. Have you guys ever heard

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like millennials or boomers know that. You know what I mean? I feel like there's not like gender

[Moses]

pointed me

[Trisha Paytas]

one or the other.

[Moses]

That finger is pointing at me right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cameras. One or the other.

[Moses]

So point to the camera. That's your camera over there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm just saying one or together?

[Moses]

Well, there's only two people here, so

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm just saying. I feel like even when I went to like Atlanta, I think like an Usher song, I feel like they're like, what is this song? You know what I mean? I feel like they wouldn't know. Cuz I'm sure. I'm assuming that's like a song from the early 2000s.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, but it was like, it's still popular. Like drag queens love lip syncing to like Fergalicious and London Bridge. Like it was just in the Meg Stalzer Netflix show. I think that's how they opened the show. Was Meg Stalzer dancing to London Bridge.

[Moses]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was very out of it when we started watching that show. It was like one week postpartum. I was like, whoa. I don't remember. But I kind of forgot that show started actually.

[Moses]

Yeah. With this song. Was she wearing something like a British flag? I don't know. She was just walking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I definitely missed it. But sounds like a good time. I think I know it maybe. I guess I just didn't know those were the words. Yeah, I know. Like London bridge is falling down.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, that's a flop and a chop pop. Like London by Fergie definitely eats that song up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Watch the Ms. Rachel episode. I forget her name. There's one of the ladies in there who sings it and she goes, london bridge is falling down, falling. And she's beautiful singer. So take it back.

[Oscar Gracie]

Fergie would eat her up because she

[Trisha Paytas]

would do cartwheels and Fergie would not eat up anybody. We saw Star Spangle banner. Jimmy run it. She's not eating up anybody. We love her, but no, there's no way. Maybe in the cartwheel world, maybe I want to go on the Today show just so I can do it. I would love today's show.

[Oscar Gracie]

Performances are iconic because you have the Hillary dub, the Fergie Czar Larson. That's where she just talked about the

[Trisha Paytas]

Tsar Larson going viral for having like the one where she's like really tired in the morning doing it. And I was like, wait, I thought she looked really pretty. I commented too. I was like, I thought you looked really, like ethereal.

[Oscar Gracie]

Actually great for just waking up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like it was like three in the morning or something. Yeah. And everyone. It was like going viral because they're like, okay, girl, give us something. I'm like, it's the sound check. And she knows this so well.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's done it about five bazillion times at this point. They're asking her to freaking do the Midnight sun, like, get lifted up everywhere she goes. She can't go anywhere without getting lifted up and singing Midnight song.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I did love it. I love that. I love it. I love the Tadasia. I know. I really want to. I want to go on there just, like, super early, and I want to perform on there, too. I want to be able to, like, do a song or something on there. I don't know. Maybe I keep hoping song and get on there or something. I want to find a way to perform there. Was that the one that Alex Rose on this morning? Yes, she was on today's show. What was she promoting? Even?

[Oscar Gracie]

She is one of the Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover. So she was promoting.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's pretty big.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's always booked and busy. She's always doing something between Real Actives and Sports Illustrated and getting back with Brandon Barrios. Allegedly, she is busy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She is one of the COVID stars, along with, like, Hillary Duff is also on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you have a picture? I haven't seen Hilary Duff's. I love Hilarious.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I love. But she went viral, I think, a couple days ago because she talked about, like, how she wants to be strong over being skinny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like, that is so real, girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so real. That's how I feel every time I go to Pilates, I channel and Hilary, I'm just gonna be stronger. And I do feel so strong.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel she looks great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see. Oh, gorge.

[Oscar Gracie]

I.

[Trisha Paytas]

She does look gorge, for sure. I wish they would have, like, put her in a bikini because I feel like her body's so insane. Like, she is so, like, they go viral all the time. Like, her body. Maybe she chose not to, but that would have been. She looks great, I think.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then there's, like, a video as well and. Okay, you're right. They didn't really put her in a bikini, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so interesting.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I wonder if it was her choice or if it was like. Oh, there is kind of a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kind of. I'm really shocked. Gorge. But she does work out all that time, and we've seen her in, like, gym outfits and stuff like that. That's so interesting.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. T. I wonder if it was, like, Sports Illustrated that chose that or what, because the other girls are in bikinis. Alex Cooper Tiffany Haddock.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, Alex Cooper's on it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, sorry. My God, Alex Earl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I was like, that's crazy. They gave them both a cover. I wish.

[Oscar Gracie]

Ironically, Alex Cooper and Alex Earle are doing press in New York today, so that's gonna be kind of cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

Alex Earle is promoting Sports Illustrated and then Alex Cooper is hosting or she's doing something with YouTube music. She's. Yeah. With, like, Chapel Ron and Czar Larson in New York. So I hope they cross paths.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'd be so interesting. Oh, my God. I regret not doing. Remember I was asked to do the carpet for that, like, women in music thing?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. For Billboard.

[Trisha Paytas]

And everybody was there and I was like, damn. I really.

[Oscar Gracie]

I told you. But you were like, I don't know anything about music.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know. I feel I'm bad when some people go up and they do an interview with that person. I don't know who they are. And then I feel like, so, so stupid and embarrassed. And I should have. I could have. I don't know how I could have even researched, though. It's like, there's so many people. Like, how am I gonna, like, do a crash course on, like, 20 people?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, it's so easy. You got the hunt tricks. Girls you already know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do know them. Yeah. I know her.

[Oscar Gracie]

Tyler could give you that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know Tyler.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I guess I would have known. I guess I was, like, scared I wouldn't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, buddy. Don't psych yourself out. That inner saboteur really got you, girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. You're right. I do have that. I do have that often. But Alex Earl. Talk about Alex Cooper today. She show?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, sort of. She can't avoid the Alex Cooper question, I think especially after snl and everywhere she goes, she does, she's dodging it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, was it other places that asked her too, and she dodged it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Because she just did the carpet for Sports Illustrated at. They did an event at the Empire State Building where all the girls were there, and they did a couple press outlets. And everyone who asked about Alex Cooper, she's just kind of dodging and talking about how grateful she is that they. This era of her life and how she feels so fulfilled now, which is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I kinda love it. But I also. My girl, give us something. You were being messy too. Give a little bit. What she kind of did, though. I guess she did like on the Today show where she's just like, I love everyone. And it's like. And then even the guy who probably knows nothing about the situation Was like, I don't believe you. So I love that. I guess we got a little shadiness there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She said, you know, I'm trying to keep things pretty positive today. We don't actually have that much time here, honestly. And also it's like, why ruin such a good day? Was something not so great? Let's keep the positive vibes going.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then what did he invited a follow up, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And then the. Her response to that was, no, it's not exaggerated. I love everyone. And then when the host wasn't buying it, she would just not answer. She just kept dodging it, which is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, but don't they have people to be like, oh, you can't ask any questions about Alex Cooper. Like, don't they. Wouldn't she have.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, but I mean, if. I guess they're not saying that, that. Because if everyone else, like, I know ET Tried asking too and we didn't like get that, like, then don't ask about Alex Cooper.

[Trisha Paytas]

But what did he.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. It's too confusing. One of them needs to change her name. What was the response when with ET what did she say?

[Oscar Gracie]

She just started talking about how she feels so fulfilled. Love and light, etc. Etc.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, I love that. I love it. But I was like, need a little mess.

[Oscar Gracie]

Give us some. I mean, you're the one that decided to throw your own hat in the ring. So that's why I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know that's kind of what I

[Oscar Gracie]

don't get is like, okay, but. But you weren't being positive love and light when you were post that video. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Or saying on it. Yeah, be right back on it. Yeah, I know we're filming this before the Color Daddy came out with tan. I really wanted to see. I saw the teaser with the pickles, but I didn't get to see the tan episode today. I really wanted to see. I'm so curious to add no questions because it is Call of Daddy can be messy sometimes. So I'm so curious to know what the questions are. And it is in her brand safe era. So I'm like, is she going to answer the questions like Alex, Earl and there are any questions. I don't even know what would be like a salacious question to answer.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know at this point, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like I would assume. I. I don't know. I would assume like maybe like she don't want to talk about, like cancel or maybe she does. I don't know. But you know what I mean. Where it's like. Do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like, you know, when I do interviews, though, no one really brings up, like, my past beefs ever. Maybe they're so long ago.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like us just speculating our predictions for caller Daddy. Yeah.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Jake, Paul. There has to be more questions about that, I would assume.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, that's a good. She does talk when I'm sometimes on that leveling. Like, if I bring it up, she, like, talk about it. So I assume. I guess she doesn't, like, shy away from things.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I can't really think of anything that would be, like, a hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think she addresses everything.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Moses]

She has a. Has she been before or it's the first time? Because, like, if it's the first time, she might talk about Tanacons, might talk about.

[Trisha Paytas]

She been on before. She was, like, supposed to, but, like, didn't show up. Oh, no, she did. She did. She was supposed to be the first episode and then didn't show up, but then she ended up doing it. And I think the whole time Alex Cooper was just, like, mad at her. Was that the one? Yeah. And then she was just kind of, like, berating her for being late the first time is what I remember.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because she was supposed to be the first ever call her daddy interview, like, when she started her own. So she did do it before. Yeah, but 2020 was, like, so long. Oh, so. Right. So like, maybe updated questions. I'm excited to see it. I wish. I wish it was out now. I wanted to ask for an advanced copy, but I don't want to be that person. Like, girl, you're aware. Stop using me for hot topics, you know? No, she never said that, but feel that way. So I was like, oh, damn. But I love that she's on. I love when I know someone that's on there. I love it. Like, call her daddy. Alex Cooper really is a monopoly on everything hosting, though. Damn. She is everywhere all at once. Is that a movie?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, Everywhere, Everywhere, everything, everywhere, all at once.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you like it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I actually did. I only saw it the one time in theaters, but I did enjoy it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who directed it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Watch it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyone famous director? Did you see a Moses?

[Moses]

Not yet. It's on my list of movies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything Everywhere, all at once.

[Moses]

It's definitely a good movie from what I've seen.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's it about?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's about relationship between a mom and her daughter. And it's like the multiverse kind of saga. The daughter. There's Like a multiverse where the daughter becomes like resentful of her mom and she becomes like the villain. But then they have to like heal the their bonded stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you liked it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I was done with this is

[Trisha Paytas]

not the Julia Fox one. Right. The one where she talked about with Jake Shane.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, this from 2022.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. We said mother. And I was like, okay, what is this one?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, Michelle. Yo is the star of it. She won the Oscar for it. Oh, J. Carter was also in it. She won the Oscar as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Yes, I do remember this movie. Yeah, I should watch him. I like Michelle. Yeah. I haven't seen her in too much, but I like her in the stuff that I have seen her.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she was great in that.

[Trisha Paytas]

More people have got announced as cast of the White Lotus. They're still announcing cast Ben Kingsley. I'm like, there's still hope. I'm hanging on to hope, you guys. I know it's gonna happen. I feel it in my bones. I went over Betty Hana yesterday and I was like, Ben Kingsley just got announced. It most like, ugh, I hate that. I was like, why? And he's like, oh, I hate when you can like recognize someone. But I was arguing that like, like Ben Kingsley is like famous to us. Of course, like a great actor. He was in Gandhi, I remember watching as a kid in school. But like, do you think he's recognizable? He's like a Jennifer Coolidge where it's like, do you think obviously she's recognizable now because of White Lotus, but do you think he's recognizable too?

[Oscar Gracie]

I do not know who this man is at all. I've never even heard the name.

[Trisha Paytas]

See, I told you. I. What?

[Oscar Gracie]

I've never heard the name Ben Kingsley.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sir Ben Kingsley. That is. See, I knew it. I knew it. And Oscar knows everyone.

[Moses]

It doesn't bother me as much as other comedians that they put on the show like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like who?

[Moses]

Like the guy from New Girl and

[Trisha Paytas]

we don't even know their name.

[Moses]

I never know names. I never know.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you're just going to watch it and think of New Girl?

[Moses]

Just when somebody is such a strong character in a show. Yeah, like they did you love New Girl like that? I used to. I think, you know, it's one of those show that was like free on hula at the time.

[Oscar Gracie]

I also think you should be saying this. When Trisha Payt gets cast in things as Trisha Paytas.

[Moses]

Very different.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really hate when I can recognize them as from something. It's distracting.

[Moses]

No, very different. Because White Lotus Is kind of like completely like you on Hacks is very different than this person.

[Trisha Paytas]

But if I show up in White Lotus, am I going to distract you from the show?

[Moses]

Well, you're my wife. Yeah, but it depends if you're doing the Amazing Race going through. No,

[Trisha Paytas]

I like the argument, but I don't know if I feel that. I love that you don't know who Ben Kingsley is.

[Oscar Gracie]

Now that I looked him up, I. I do know him at Iron Man 3 as the Mandarin, but that's the last man. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you think of Mandarin? What do you think of word association? Just really quick first thing.

[Oscar Gracie]

Mandarin, Iron Man 3, or the fruit.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I was going to say. There's two different meanings.

[Oscar Gracie]

Or the language, I think, also.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or the Groku is in the Mandarin. His dad. Oh, I was like, there's so many universes. What is.

[Oscar Gracie]

You're saying Grou.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Grogu with a G. Okay, same thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

You.

[Oscar Gracie]

The Mandalorian and Grou premiere and calling it grou the whole time.

[Moses]

What are you calling it in the Mandarin

[Oscar Gracie]

and Groku? What was it like playing the role in this? In the Man? Were you here live at the Mandarin and Groku premiere with De Pascal? What was it like?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's coming out, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

In, like, two weeks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone was saying, oh, he can't get over how cute Groku is. Like, he still gushes over him and stuff like that. So he plays the Mandarin and Roku is. How do you say it?

[Oscar Gracie]

The Mandalorian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you with me? Because you always are, like, no. Well, why are you laughing then? Why are you laughing?

[Oscar Gracie]

Keep saying the Mandarin.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it? The Mandalorian and what's the other word?

[Oscar Gracie]

Grogu.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what's the other one? We're talking about the Mandalorian and Grogu.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, the Mandarin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, so we're all talking about the same thing.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, we're talking about, like, five different things.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

the fruit or the language.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And that those are all different. Yeah. And then there is the Mandalorian and Grogu.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what does Ben Kingsley look like as the Mandarin himself? Why do they call him the Mandarin then?

[Oscar Gracie]

Because that's a villain in the comics. But he played a version of it where he was like a con man pretending to be the Mandarin.

[Moses]

Was he like floating around? That was him, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

He was supposed. Oh no, he was supposed to be. That's X Men in the character in the comics. But he played like a version of it where he was. Was like pretending like he was a fraud. Pretending he has superpowers.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he was also an X Men. No, Ben Kingsley wasn't an X Men.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that what you're thinking of? There's somebody with powers in a wheelchair. Right. In X Men.

[Oscar Gracie]

Sir Xavier.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's not Ben Kingsley. Who's that?

[Oscar Gracie]

That's. Or Patrick Stewart.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they're very similar. They are very similar. They're sirs, British and bald. Right, Right. That's a very reasonable mix up.

[Moses]

Which is most of the royals out there.

[Oscar Gracie]

And Sir Ian McKellen is also.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he's got some hair. There's a lot of sers out there, huh? Sir Ben Kingsley. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

That was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know where to go from that. But I just know there is a new movie. I would love to be at the red carpet. I would love to do the hosting interviews. Where is it? When's it going to be?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's coming up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you get the list? I read ready.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it's in. It's in my calendar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should we go to that one?

[Moses]

It's probably gonna be in the Chinese theater.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were so obsessed with. Not so obsessed, but like we were going to so many premieres. I feel like, wow, we need to go to one again. It's been a while.

[Oscar Gracie]

On the 14th.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar Gracie]

At the London West Hollywood.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's weird. Why is it a hotel? It seems so small.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. Usually Disney premieres are at the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the Chinese Theater or at the El Capitan.

[Oscar Gracie]

Tanya.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, you might be able to go.

[Trisha Paytas]

London's calling. I'll be there. May 14, the new Skims comes out. May 14, the new Nike skims collection. It's pink and all that. Be sold out. Do you. Have you seen those little toe shoes they have?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, but, you know, I hate a toe shoe. Is it the one where each toe is individual?

[Trisha Paytas]

This one is, like. It looks like a flip flop, but it's like a sneaker. So like, only this toe is separated and this one's in there. You haven't seen those?

[Moses]

No, they used to have that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it, like, for running or something? Like, I see the skims is all about those.

[Moses]

I have a pair like that. Well, again, it's. It's a Japanese shoe where there's only one slit, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses]

And I have. I actually have old Nikes like that. They're like yellow and orange.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it for running or what's it for? Just walking. It just helps you walk better.

[Moses]

I don't know. I'm trying to think what it would be good for.

[Oscar Gracie]

They are running shoes. The Nike Air with split toe running shoes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would you try it?

[Oscar Gracie]

They kind of just remind me of a hoof. I think I'm kind of triggered because Joey. Yeah. How did you know he still.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to wear hooves. He loves a hoof. I know. It is giving. It is. He probably wears those kind of shoes for sure because he loves. He also loves, like, Japanese culture and he loves hooves. He loves all of it. So it's like. And exercising. Is he a runner? Does he go on a run? Maybe he does. I need to become a runner.

[Oscar Gracie]

He wasn't really a runner when I worked for him. But maybe since I left.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe we still need to do our running challenge for Patreon. Where are we gonna do one?

[Oscar Gracie]

The hiking one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that was bad. Maybe just go around a track so we don't get like.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah, we're supposed to do the Olympics or whatever. The Trishlympics.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gotta get that going. Aren't we just going to a track? We had a high school and let us hop over some things. You know, the hurdles and the batons. I feel like it may be easier to just go and run. Or the Disney. We're supposed to do the Disney run.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yes, the marathon.

[Trisha Paytas]

We missed it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. We'll have to do 2027. I guess I'll have to talk to

[Trisha Paytas]

Disney and see how we get in there.

[Oscar Gracie]

When you're at the Mandarin and Grow coup.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it called?

[Oscar Gracie]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

The Mandalorian.

[Oscar Gracie]

Pedro Pascal. I don't know. I don't know Star wars like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's just like a made up name it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, that's like the role. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're not gonna watch it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Darian wants to see it because he loves Baby Yoda. I know everyone loves Baby Yoda. I don't think I care about Baby Yoda. Yeah, this is gonna be my James Charles spirit. I really don't like baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why? Why not? He's so cute.

[Oscar Gracie]

He's cute, but like okay. Like I'm. I see him like, okay, cute. But I don't need to see a movie. Just little thing being cute in the backpack of. Also cuz Pedro Pascal's face is covered the whole time. So I'm like.

[Trisha Paytas]

They probably show it now.

[Moses]

Famous. You see him more from the previews

[Oscar Gracie]

I've seen, but okay. I don't even know if that can sell me on it though.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even know who you are. I'm going to. I'll see it just for the Baby Yoda. Cuz I think I got the Bath and Body Works Baby Yoda collection. What I did. I got the Bounty sand soap. I got everything from this collection.

[Oscar Gracie]

I didn't know you were a stand like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love baby.

[Oscar Gracie]

You don't even know the freaking name.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you were saying Gru. Gru. How do you say it? Baby Yoda. Who even says the name? The legal government name. Everyone calls it Baby Yoda. I remember had so much Baby Yoda stuff. I was like obsessed with Baby Yoda. You went as them the Baby Yoda and whatever the thing is called.

[Moses]

Mandalorian.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you were them for Halloween with. With Malbo. You were Baby Yoda?

[Moses]

Because I was always carrying the baby baby. So it always looked like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

They really need to get one of those things. We always say this for like a baby. Like carriers or like a baby holder,

[Moses]

a stroller and a.

[Trisha Paytas]

That looks like it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, that'd be cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because all our babies look like Baby Yoda. And I was like, oh, that'd be so cute. Because Aquaman always wears Baby Yoda stuff. It's just cute.

[Oscar Gracie]

I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just a cute little person. Little guy.

[Oscar Gracie]

I want to see if Malibu would be into this K pop group. Illit. Because I keep seeing kids do this dance dance that's like on TikTok. It's to their new song.

[Trisha Paytas]

She might be. What's the song because she does listen to k pop groups. What is the song?

[Oscar Gracie]

The one that I keep seeing right now is like, who's your bias? Who's your bias? It's me. It's me. Who's your bias?

[Trisha Paytas]

What's bias?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, who's your favorite member of the group?

[Trisha Paytas]

Ah, I like that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's. Is it our dance to it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, it goes like. There's something like this and then there's like a little foot stomp. It's easier than a cat's eye dance.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least a cat's eye dance was crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was really hard. This one is like so hard. But it's a little bit easier, I think, because I see, like kids are doing that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, we should do it. They do love. They do love a dance trend, for sure.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like they'd be into this because it's like a fun song and it's like very. It's very dancy. It's very upbeat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Girl group.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, they're a girl group and there's

[Trisha Paytas]

music videos for it. I'll play it. I do love. Because they get into, like the. Like when they see a music video, like the. They love that one.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she'll always sing. It's like so much. And like, she like, knows all the words and, like, so cute. Yeah, I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's a little rose Stan.

[Trisha Paytas]

She loves her. I think it's because of like the pink and stuff in the video. To me, I watch the video. Yeah, I watch them. Like, I was kind of boring, but, like, I think they like the bright pink and everything. Actually, my Sarang hang song that's coming out next week is inspired by that. I literally was like, give me a pink wall. Give me a pink sound stage. Because, like, that's what they like, love so much. Like, she loves it shows the pink room. So when they went came to come visit, they're like, they thought it was like up to up at top.

[Oscar Gracie]

That is so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did I wear grandma Tammy Did. I feel like she won it.

[Moses]

Won something.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Rose won something.

[Moses]

I mean, that song has probably more than a billion views.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. It is kind of catchy. And what's it even mean?

[Oscar Gracie]

It's based off a game in, I think Korea. It's like one of those, like, play ground games. Like, oh, those little, like, clappy songs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's why the kids like it because it's like ingrained in their head. She always asks for.

[Oscar Gracie]

That is so cute. It was. It won. It got a lot of nominations.

[Trisha Paytas]

It didn't win.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know if they won. Earned three nominations including record of the year, song of the year, and best pop duo. And they performed other Grammys, but I don't think they ended up winning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ah, that makes me sad.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I do love Rose.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were so good.

[Oscar Gracie]

There is a new K pop group. I guess it's not technically a K pop group, but that just got formed today. It's Cat's Eyes, like sister group today. It. It just. They was like. It was kind of like Cat side where there's like a reality show where they're casting the fourth member and they just announced the winner who was going to join the group today. They were called Prelude, but now they're called Saint Satine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Preludes better.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I like Prelude better too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Saint Satine.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

It sounds just religious to me. Like it sounds like a Christian group. You know. Prelude is fun. It's like, ooh, before Cat's Eye there was Prelude and it's like three of

[Oscar Gracie]

the girls were in the dream Academy with the Cat's eye girls. So they. Cat. They got three of those girls and then they did another show to get the fourth member and they wanted like specifically, I think like a Japanese girl. Like they did a casting for a Japanese girl to fill the fourth role.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who was it? Who they picked?

[Oscar Gracie]

They picked a girl named Sakura, but she's only. Was only 16. But Yunche was only 16 when she got what? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

How does she know Jay Yunjae?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think she just turned 18 this year. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

So young.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's weird. Why are they singing Eat zucchini. I don't like that. I didn't know she was like not 18.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. There's some things like some of the fans would get upset when like with some of the choreography of the outfits and stuff because she was so young.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And Sakura who won and she's also 16. And some of the fans again are upset that like the other girls are in early 20s. So like a 16 year old. Some of the fans are like upset.

[Trisha Paytas]

But as long as they keep it like clean and not in underwear and stuff like that.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

The outfits that they have them in for their announcement as a four member group are like pretty tame and everything. But it's like she's just wearing like cargo shorts and like top. Yeah. But yes, a lot of fans were like upset that she won. But people were upset with Cat's Eye too. Like the girls ended up winning but at first, but then the vision really comes into formation once they get performing and everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I have Faith and Cat's Eye. Killing it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And, oh, Manon was just in Top Model Germany with Heidi Klum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, gosh. She is booked and busy, too. They're like, she can take a little break. Just kidding.

[Oscar Gracie]

Everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was the Tommy Hilfiger, like, a campaign?

[Oscar Gracie]

She did something with the Grand Prix last weekend. She went to, I believe, France and she did, like, a photo shoot over there. And I think she's like, one of the spokespeople. Oh, yeah, she was with Tommy Hilfiger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Busy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And Laura Lara also did a. A live and she. She called the Cat's Eye, like, the six. She talked about all six of them. So also there's, like, hope that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's weird. I wonder why.

[Oscar Gracie]

Recently, I think last night, yeah, she went on live and she talked about, like. Yeah, she. Something with, like, all six of us, I think just, like, people speculating a lot, too, which. It's like. It's kind of. They're not the girl's fault. I'm talking, like, the label's fault for just, like, announcing it and then having Manal kind of be everyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Yeah. Like, what do you mean? Like, maybe get your stories together. Like.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They shouldn't say she's taking a break. They should just be leaving the group or something like that if they.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know, because obviously to be. There's going to be speculation if, like, you say it's for her health, but then obviously she's saying she's fine and she's everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, I'm good.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She's on stage at Coachella with Pink Panther.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like, that was so sad.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

She could have been up there with Cats.

[Oscar Gracie]

So, yeah, it's. It'll be interesting to see, like, what happens. I'm excited for a new girl group, though. I live every time there's a new girl group, like, I'm seated.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where are they going to be? Is it like a show? Is it going to be out somewhere?

[Oscar Gracie]

So there it was, like a web series series, finding the fourth member of the group. And now they are foursome. So I guess now they'll be doing a little tour. Yeah, they have a song, one song that they recorded for the show. But I'm sure there'll be, like, Cat's Eye, where, like, they do a proper, like, debut as a group probably within the year or so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe they'll open for Cat's Eye.

[Oscar Gracie]

I would love, like, one of the girls. Emily is still, like, best friends with Megan and Lara. And also I feel like we have a lot of oomphies with, like, Emily, actually. She's very sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where's she from?

[Oscar Gracie]

She's from the Dream Academy or Pop Star Academy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like the original show.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She's still best friends with, like, Adela and stuff, so it's really cute. And I hope. Yeah. Again, some fans are mad because, like, now they're like, well, Cat's Eye is just getting started, so don't take the eye off the ball and like, start focusing on this group instead. But I think they can coexist.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's room for everyone. It's kind of like when, like the, like, like the Britneys and the Christinas and the man anymore. Just because, like, everyone just like popped. All these pop singers popped off. It's like, well, now K pop is becoming, like, more mainstream over here, so now everyone's just gonna pop off, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And the label's big, so they can have like a team.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, same label?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, same label.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is the label?

[Oscar Gracie]

Hybex, Geffen, Hybe. Hybe and Geffen, Hybex, Geffen. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

If you want to sign another K pop artist. I may not be 16, but I'm available. Do I have to be in a group?

[Oscar Gracie]

Group? I think they have solo artists.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, solo. But she's not really a Dallas.

[Oscar Gracie]

Not with. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they let her, like, just go. Usually American Idol.

[Oscar Gracie]

They're like, she got eliminated. Yeah. And then she. She was doing independent and she got signed pretty recently, like maybe like last year. Like maybe like eight months ago. She got signed to another label pretty recently.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

But yeah, I guess some. They kept like on retainer or something because they were signed. Signed Three of the girls from the Cat's Eye Show, Emily, Lexi and Samara. So it is so interesting. I'm so fascinated by the business of it because it's so, like, strict. Like, they don't play and they have such a formula.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I just want to be in there. I want to be part of the pop academy. You know what I mean? Like, I want to, like, be in the formula cancer.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like. Yes. You can speak the language and stuff too.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is true. Any plus size K pop superstars?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think so. I think. Yeah, I think you might have to there. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why don't they do that?

[Oscar Gracie]

That's a great question. I don't know. I. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, they're all teeny tiny.

[Oscar Gracie]

Really are like, they all the same body.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am gonna break that barrier. My K pop song comes out out next week and it is going to be breaking the mold. I'm trying to be cutesy with them all, but I don't know if I

[Oscar Gracie]

can see plus size K pop idol. Okay, any.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no.

[Oscar Gracie]

What I'm trying to see there's there like, there are some that are known for being healthier body types. And like, let me show you the girl that

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to go to Korea so bad. I'm going to go to Seoul.

[Oscar Gracie]

They're saying this girl from twice is known for having a healthier body.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Oscar Gracie]

She has abs. That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh no.

[Oscar Gracie]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if I'm going to make my K pop debut. I don't know how it's going to go over. But like you said, maybe I'll break the mold. Maybe they'll be like, actually, we love this too.

[Oscar Gracie]

We need more of this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Jiho from twice, they're saying, is known for having a curvier body. That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially considering mukbang originated in Korea. Like, you know, like people eat over there. Like, I don't understand, like, why they all body types are beautiful, of course. But like, why don't they also show a bigger body type?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh my God. This is the other girl they're saying is being applauded for being plus size. Mama Moose. I'm sorry if I'm pronouncing her name wrong.

[Trisha Paytas]

First of all, just Trish vibes. Yeah, yeah. Let me see. Do you want to? Come on.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, they're calling her plus size. What? By Korean standards.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Gracie]

That is scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. I'm gonna go over there and they're all gonna be like, you know, like, did a whale wash up? Like, what? They're gonna be real shook if they think that's plus size. Oh, no. I gotta stop mukbanging before I go over there. That's crazy. That's sad. Or maybe not. I don't know. It's promoting healthy. I don't know. But like, I'm healthy. I don't know. That's sad. Well, I feel bad for her. She's probably like, I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Why are they labeling these girls as a plus size? That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe just no one's big over there.

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess I have to go over.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. My God. And I got feel like I lose some weight before I go over there. Damn. I guess probably the Food's healthier over there and like, something to do with it. Not as much processed. Is there McDonald's in Korea?

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm pretty sure, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

What does it like, look like? What do they sell? I want to go. I'm like, planning a trip to Seoul. Soul in my head, but I really want to go.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, it is in Korea.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does it look like? What kind of food? Like, do like McDonald's, Seoul, Korea. Specialty items.

[Oscar Gracie]

Let's see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you know, I love those Korean fried cheese, but it's like, wonder if they have, like, any like, kimchi over

[Oscar Gracie]

there or they have prosperity burger.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, they have a spicy Mac and cheeseburger that's crispy. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So why is no one fat over there? Is it just making. Keeping like, no sodium? Like what? How is everyone so skinny eating these crispy Mac and cheese sandwiches? That's crazy. I want to know the secrets. I'm going to go over there and figure it out.

[Oscar Gracie]

You come back and you're like, teeny tiny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I like only at McDonald's and I'm so small. I guess you walk a lot of places. I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

They always have good sky meat chili burgers. They have a lot of specialty items, actually. Oh, wow. Very interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right. Be over there soon. So good.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow. Yeah, you need to do a whole investigation. You would have so much content when you go.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm ready.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, they have chocolate churros in South Korean McDonald's. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, that sounds so good. I can't wait. Should we go over?

[Oscar Gracie]

I need to get a passport, but I would be down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I was like, everyone silent.

[Oscar Gracie]

What? I think I asked my friend Stephanie the. The con. I think the country. I. Some. Someone in South Korea flew her out to, like, experience the culture. She's like a reporter for Access Hollywood and she has like all these, like, beautiful, glamorous photos that they. They like, they put her in, like, the traditional outfit and like, took her photo and everything. And I'm like. And they like, paid for. For everything. Like, South Korea did all this. I don't know why.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

I forgot. I think there was a K drama. Actually. That's what it was. There was a K drama that came out. So for, like, her to, like, interview the cast, they, like, gave her a whole South Korean experience.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm available. I am available. Can my kids. I think it's kid friendly over there too. I think South Korea is very kid differently friendly. Let me know. I have a song coming out called Sarang. Hey, it comes out next Monday. Like, I would love to come perform it for you. I'll just be in South Korea. Just be like.

[Oscar Gracie]

You would honestly thrive there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love.

[Oscar Gracie]

They have a McChicken with mozzarella sticks in it. The more I learn, the more I'm like, you actually need to go immediately.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can McDonald's Korea fly me out? I'll do mukbangs for a day. Is there. Oh, my gosh, please. Oh, that sounds beautiful. Amazing. Everything about it sounds wonderful. Sign me up. I'm coming over. Well, ask her how she came, how they got, how she had the. Everyone always tells me this. Everyone's always like, I got free travel for Paris, and all they had to do is promote about it. It's like Italy.

[Moses]

People are getting like, every country has the cultural department, and they usually have funds to, you know, they want to advertise the country. They want tourism to come, and so they usually pay for people to come and tour. And.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I would do anything for that. For South Korea tour. Absolutely anything. Maybe they just don't want me. I guess they're like, we don't want you promoting this country, but I would. In case you do want me, I love you. I'm a huge fan of the culture. Culture, food.

[Moses]

We need to find the Korean embassy and write them a letter.

[Trisha Paytas]

South Korea?

[Moses]

Yeah, South Korea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Korean. Like, all of it. Yeah.

[Moses]

Wow. We not assume North Korea embassy even exists here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you gotta specify. Some people don't know.

[Moses]

I want to start a new war.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, we're. We're all peace over here. I do love that. I love that she did a photo shoot, because I've seen that in, like, Japan too. Like, people dress, like you said, like, in, like, their. The cultural garb and, like, be in the cherry blossoms. It's like these. They do their hair, makeup. South Korea specifically, too. I think that's the one that, like, everyone goes and gets, like, the lips done and the skin done, and they're like, oh, I got color matched. Michaela's are always over there. I think Ava Gutowski went over there. I think, like, everyone's been over there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Michaela should have had you go on the brand trip.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have loved. I know what. Mikayla hit me up next time someone else went over to an influencer. Just went over there and got, like, color matched in Korea. And I was like, they must. You're right. They must be getting, like, some trips over there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. That's like the thing. Anytime an influencer goes to Korea, they like, have to post a skin match. Like a. Yeah, like a skin matching where they have like the different shades.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you think they're getting flown out? Maybe. Cuz why are they all doing the same laboratory?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to find my friends and certain brands are.

[Moses]

I want to see originally from there. So you got to find which brands are selling here that I think the

[Trisha Paytas]

one I use, I think Kosas is Korean. Korean that, you know, the turmeric one that's in our shower. I think that's Korean. I might be wrong because I'm always looking up Korean skincare. I'm always like trying to get the stuff that they have over there. Oh, I really want to do that. The glass skin is a Korean thing. I'm very excited about this Korean chapter. Yeah, I love it. I do love it. Like I do. I have always loved the culture. That's how I literally found out about mukbangs. I remember seeing the Korean girl and I think the react brothers or something, the Fine brothers did a react to mukbangs and it was like 2011. And I remember just being like so enamored because they just ate so pretty and they ate all this like really good food and stuff. And they would be eating like octopus and stuff. And it was like, oh, I want to do that. I want to eat large amounts of food on camera. My K Pop video has a little mukbang throw to it to honor which

[Oscar Gracie]

musical era are you in? Because you're kind of releasing two very different songs close together.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Very close. Well, well, because I have a show in England and I want to perform both of them there. So I'm trying to release them and because.

[Moses]

Well, one is for the book.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Crying of the New Floor has been done for a couple weeks and it's a book promotion. But I was. I did the Benihana commercial in March. So then I threw a Benihana throw in to the video where I said I was butter noodle drama. Now I'm Benihana mama and I show the Benihana chef outfit in there. So I had to wait for the meal to come out. So I was like, all right, we'll put this video out Wednesday. But then the K Pop video took longer than anticipated because it has like a lot of. What do you call that? It's like, it's a green screen, but it's like I had an artist do it.

[Oscar Gracie]

So he like all the graphics.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And he did like this really cool, like soul. Yeah, he did like an animation of, like, Seoul, Korea. And that just took, like, a really long time. So that doesn't actually get done until Friday. So they're just being released, like, back to back. But I don't know. I need a. I have a concept album for next year, possibly if I do another, like, if I do the Australian tour or something like that. But I don't know what era I'm in. I'm just in a. I don't know. I wanted to do a whole Korean album, but I was like, let me just put this out first and see if anyone wants this. Maybe no one cares. But if I. If. If you do care, I have three more Korean songs that I can put out as a little ep. I just want to see how. How it's received first, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

So, yes, this is my friend Stephanie. So, yeah, they flew her out and then, yeah, they. They got her all styled and then did her photo shoot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry. That's so gorgeous.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. And the pink, too. Oh, my gosh. We're gonna do a Just rush in South Korea. Here we come. That'd be. Any dramas. Let us know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Let us know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so seated for this. Oh, my God. Absolutely. That sounds so much fun. Yeah. I really want to do, like. I do love all, like, the Asian countries. I would like to go see more. I would love to see, like, Japan. Philippines look really pretty. I would love to see all of it. Let me know. Thailand since White Lotus. That looked kind of fun over there. We're available. We want to travel. We love traveling. My kids travel well as well. They're very. They're very seated on a plane and very cultured. They're very cultured. They love. And they love K pop. And it's not just K pop. Even Hunters. They do love K pop. That's why I would like that group. I wanted to. I don't know the names of the groups they listen to, but I just know it pops up sometimes after. After we listen to hunt tricks and then they listen to it. All right, well settled. That's our next location. I guess we have to do a location before we have the next location, but we thought about Maui as a potential. But maybe South Korea first.

[Moses]

We've done New York.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. We did the unflattering chairs. They just emailed me, like, great job on Euphoria. Like, those people who did it. Like, the podcast, like, your hard work has paid off. I was like, okay, thanks. It was nice. Some people were gagged by euphoria. Some people were like, wow, that was amazing.

[Oscar Gracie]

My manager said you were the moment from Euphoria. I know. Wow. She's also kind of hard to. To please, so that's crazy, but I love it. She's so, like. She's also been doing it like, entertainment for so long that, like, nothing really phases her. But she was quite gagged by your appearance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, that means a lot. That's so funny.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, genuinely.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. It's so hard when you're, like, in it, you know? But I'm like, I'm glad. Glad people liked it. I'm available for more. I love a little cameo moment. You know what I mean? I'm happy to do more of those, for sure.

[Oscar Gracie]

Hayden Pantier. I guess there's no easy transition into this, but I was kind of gagged because she did a interview with Jay Shetty for his podcast. There's a few different aspects to it, but the thing that kind of shocked me the most was she talked about at 18, how she was lured into. To get into bed with a very famous man who was already naked. A very famous actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she say actor? Just famous man.

[Oscar Gracie]

Male actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Because I had seen people guess, like, Harvey Weinstein, but okay, so it's not him.

[Oscar Gracie]

She said male actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And she said that I was led by somebody that had grown to trust and see as a protector and somebody who had my back. We walked down the stairs. It was a small room. She physically put me in the bed next to this. Undra undressed. Oh, she doesn't say man here, but the article said actor undressed man who was very famous. And this was just an average day for him. And this is something that happens all the time. The time I waited for her to leave and that line in me, that fire in me, my hair stood on end and I became ferocious. I was like, this is not happening. I had nowhere to hide. I bolted. I hid wherever I could think to hide on a boat. There was no jumping off and swimming away. I realized that there was no one who was going to be empathetic to my situation. And this was nothing new to them.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that is, like, so terrifying.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you're hiding on a ship that's, like, out in the middle of the ocean and, like, you ran away from the situation. Like, that's. I wish. Like, I guess my first thing is, like. Like, why? I guess. Why not say the name? I guess, like, she doesn't want it. Like, is he still an actor? Like, is he still out there, like, doing this stuff. Who's the woman? Like, is the woman like a manager? Is she, like, also doing this to other young starlets? Not that she has to, like, say who it is, but it is obviously one of the things that people are gonna, like, speculate. That's why I saw the Harvey Weinstein of it all. Because everyone was like. When she described him, like, you know, putting his hands back like this and like. Like immediate, like, disgust.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think if she. Well, if she says the name specifically, then it becomes like, it'll become a legal thing. And then it becomes like, yeah, her word versus someone else's word. And then we kind of seen the track record for, like, how women being believed against especially a very famous man. She says he's still famous now. So Amanda's very famous and has fans. Will anyone believe her? Especially, like. Like, she struggled so much with. I mean, she's had, like, a lot of mental health problems.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

But like, with also substances. So I feel like the second she kind of comes out against someone, if he's like. Then everyone will kind of use everything against her, which is, like, very sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that part makes me. Oh, my God. It's, like, so physically sick, all of it. Because the fact that she was 18, she talked about it a lot in this interview, too, is like. Everyone's been talking about it lately. It's very, like, a thing now that everyone's, like, going to know is like, why wait till 25, the frontal lobe development? Because she said that too. She was like, I was 18. Like, I thought I was equipped to handle the situation. I thought, whatever. Because she's. She. She married an older man too. Right. Wasn't she really young when she married? I remember that was like, a thing. She was very young when she married, like, a much older man. And why? Because you're put in these situations, you think you can handle it, but you just like the manipulation. And she was manipulated by, like, so many people in her life. I mean, she talks about it all the time in this interview. You.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And she is promoting her new memoir that's coming out too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what's it called?

[Oscar Gracie]

It is this is Me A Reckoning. A reckoning.

[Trisha Paytas]

First memoir.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I felt like she had a book before, but maybe not. I'm like, so want to read it? I. I don't love. But, like, I think it's so important when they talk about it, like, purdy her.

[Oscar Gracie]

And I think she. I mean, she literally was a child star, like, even. I mean, the first thing I remember her from is like was it Ice Princess? I want to say she was in the skating movie, obviously like Heroes or like she was on the Disney Channel movie Tiger Cruise. But even before that, like she was literally like a child star when she was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I remember her as like a really little girl and stuff.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And she like growing up famous then becoming like sex symbol. Kind of like when she was, you know, 18, 19, 20. Funny. Like in Heroes and stuff. Like she was the cheerleader and she was wearing like the cheerleader outfit and she was kind of. How old was she symbol? Let me see how old because I

[Trisha Paytas]

feel like she must have been. She's younger than me, right? Or is she my age? I remember Heroes and I was like 18 when Heroes came out. So was she 18?

[Oscar Gracie]

She was born in 89.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. So she's like a year younger.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So she's 36 now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

Heroes came out in 2006, so. Yeah, she was like 20, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I was 18 in 2006. So she was 17.

[Oscar Gracie]

17, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she was really young when she did it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, that's. Yeah, I still remember when that came out and I remember, yeah, everyone she was in that era too. Like the Hillary Duff and Mary Kate Ashley where everyone's like, can't wait till they're 18. Like just being so weird and creepy and. Yeah. It's like disheartening. I mean that stuff happens. I think it just happens literally all the time. And like that wasn't that long ago, you know, I feel, I feel like it's probably, probably still happens to some capacity, but maybe not as much cuz people are talking about it and hopefully people aren't as stupid anymore to like be in that situation. But even like the Harvey Weinstein, when all that stuff happened, I'm like, God, nobody said anything for like so many years. Like 10, 20 years. Like. But everyone knew and no one just said anything. It's just so disturbing.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I mean especially with the Harvey Weinstein like there people like as famous as, as like Jennifer Lawrence. You know what I mean? Like she was so famous and also like she was a victim.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's like I don't know her story, what's hers.

[Oscar Gracie]

She, I think he. She wasn't like he was trying to get her to go and do something with her, but she's one of the people who came forward. I don't think she actually did anything with him. But he like harassed her. Like. Harassed her? Yeah. So if even like people like Jennifer Lawrence, like who. Yeah, are household names super famous. Like you know what I mean? It's like, it's not something that just like up and coming actresses.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's he. Where is he? And what? Gwyneth Paltrow had a story right, when she was like, with Brad Pitt or something too. And it's like the audacity of this ugly ass ogre. Like, what the hell? He's in prison?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Forever?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think so. I know he was really sick in prison a couple weeks or months ago or something. There was. Oh, yeah, he. They're trying to do a retrial.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's trying to do that?

[Oscar Gracie]

Harvey Weinstein's team is trying to do a retrial.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is like, not allow them to. Right? Like, why can they do that?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think it's just a legal thing where you can try to get a retrial, but I think it's usually pretty hard to overturn.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should look at what president and state of that law. Like, what do you mean? That's so weird. Probably like Bill Clinton or something was like, oh, you know what? We should have a right to retrial. It's like, no, you were found guilty. You stay guilty.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. Damn. Today is when they actually are doing closing arguments for the retrial. So it's actually happening now. It closes today. Ew. Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

What a weird timing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That is crazy. I was gonna say I was finding, like, May 11th last time with the James Charles lawsuit, right? And we're like, oh, my God, it's May 11th today. Oh, we're really just alive.

[Oscar Gracie]

Weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very weird. Yeah, I like that interview. I want to go on Jay Shardy's podcast. I think. I know he's like, a little controversial, right? Because he was like a monk or he wasn't a monk, but I like, he seems nice. He's a good listener. One thing about Jay Shetty, he has a podcast, but he does very little talking. But I think that's kind of, like, powerful. He just, like, lets the guest talk, and I kind of like that. It's like a safe space. Is there any other controversies with him or.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just that I feel like, I mean, that's the only thing I really.

[Trisha Paytas]

The month thing, which is, like, not a big deal. You were a monkey, weren't you? Lied about it. Who cares? You had a monk mentality. And that's all that matters is, like, you can listen, you can be at peace. I feel like I was a monk in a past life, you know? I feel I was a monk actually.

[Moses]

When.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, in 2021. Remember, babe? I would go outside, it was like, September, to, like, our wedding. And I remember just, like, going outside and meditating for, like, literally, like, 10 hours a day. And I would hold my pee. I would just be, like, blank a thought, and I would just be meditating. And I think that's, like, what the monks did remember. I was even, like, vegan. Vegan. Because I looked up, like, the Hare Krishna and the Hinduism, and I was like. It was all about, like. Yeah. Like, being just so. Mind, body, soul, as pure as possible. So I would just, like, not even drink water, just be out there. And.

[Moses]

And that's thanks to Jay Shetty, because it's like, for him, it's like, not about whether you are or not for how long, you know? So he was for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he was.

[Moses]

He was a short period of time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like me. He's just out in his backyard doing a little meditation. Honestly, I would love to go where the monks are. Are. Where are they? Type in. Where are the monks?

[Moses]

Because I went on, like, the real. You remember on Venice.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, the ones like the orange outfits. I want to go there. Huh?

[Moses]

Tibet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tibet. Is that real? Fact check it. I want to see

[Oscar Gracie]

Tibetan monks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

There are Tibetan monks?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, there's some Franciscan monks up in Simi Valley. For real.

[Moses]

I went to the monk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh?

[Moses]

That's a whole different kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, I want to be this one. What's the Jay Shetty. Which one was he? I am fascinated by monk culture. I really am. I really think it's, like, so cool to just, like. Was it White Lotus? I think she met a monk, and they were just like, we're just being here. We're just going to be. And I love. I love that house.

[Moses]

About the water.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What was that? What was it again? I remember it was your. It was your philosophy they took. What was it?

[Moses]

Did he talk about being just a cup of water in the ocean and you go back to the ocean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. At the end of life, he was

[Oscar Gracie]

a Hindu monk, not a Buddhist monk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jenny. For real. Was.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's what.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, But I studied Hinduism, too. That's what I was studying. That's why I Became vegetarian. I swear. Krishna is like a branch of that. I swear I was in the Hinduism. I have the four agreements. Is that what I was reading? I was, I was in it. We went to the one in Venice. What's that one?

[Moses]

That's a Hindu.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hindu, yeah. We were going to all, all, all of them and they were wonderful. They like let you come in.

[Moses]

Of course. Beautiful food if you're vegetarian or vegan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they had a great restaurant next to the or part of it. Right? It was, it was so good. Wow. Wow. I. I need to go on the J Shoddy podcast. I would love J to come here. Does he do podcasts? Does he do interviews? I have so many questions. Why did he leave the monkism for podcasting? I'm so right. Like cuz they're so peaceful and they're so good just being. Why did he be like, okay, I needed, I need to try this out. He was at the Greek right after me too. Like the day after. He was at the Greek while we're so aligned. Yeah.

[Moses]

Oh really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was performing like the next day and he's like in the audience like talking to people and stuff. God. Oh, what a collaboration. Because I liked how he was with hidden pens here. He was just like letting her talk. He was listening even when she can I read? Can I read a letter I wrote? And he's just like listening and he's like nodding and he's just like so attentive. And I was like, I like this person. He seems nice. He's got pretty eyes too. Very good looking person.

[Oscar Gracie]

His guests are all over from all walks of life, I should say. And he has like Hillary Duff Cardi B. And then he also has how to lose fat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what? Like it's like lose some weight. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Matthew McConaughey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

So there people from all walks of

[Trisha Paytas]

life, like a Nessa Barrett on there. He's had like some influencers on. You had Alex Boren.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jay Shaddy. I'm doing a presser. I'm gonna call my publisher.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, Watson is it? Who is this? Is that Lily Singh?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so he said Chloe on there

[Oscar Gracie]

and Chris Jenner as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

He Appleton.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well see, I might get a Chris Appleton level at least cuz I

[Oscar Gracie]

was like, maybe Smith.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, come on, I gotta watch that interview. I like his interviews. Yeah, I like how he pulls things from. From people, like they get real deep. He's someone you could get deep with. I think, I think he'd be a good listener. Remember when I did the Rain Wilson one, and I was like, yeah, I haven't had a mental breakdown in a few years. Like, do you want to have one right here? I was like, okay. Immediately, like, Jay Shetty would never. He'd be like, you know what? Good for you. He'd apply me. That was such a crazy one to go on. And his podcast episode. His podcast is called Soul Boom. So I thought, oh, we're going to get, like, so deep. And I was like, oh, gosh. Okay. He probably thinks he's like, a Jay Shetty type. That was. That was horrible. I think. I think. And say now. That was a bad interview. Now we're far removed from it, I think.

[Moses]

So people had a good reaction to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had a bad reaction to it, I think. I think I was like, just so.

[Moses]

I think it was intimated of your usual comfort zone of talking to another female.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Certain type of space. And he's more of, like, male comedian turned spiritual.

[Oscar Gracie]

And you didn't like the lighting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, but he's the lighting. Diabolical. He was just. He had Justin Baldoni on there before me, so that says a lot. I mean, maybe, but however you think

[Moses]

about it, because I think they're. They're Baha' I right there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. He was impressed that I knew Baha',

[Moses]

I, so they're very. Anyway, it just. It's just a very different type of place for you to do, but you did really well.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I feel like. Yeah. I think I thought I was going to, like, a Jay Shetty situation, and it was not that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Right.

[Moses]

A little bit more. I think he's just a bit more. More funny. Upbeat.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who?

[Trisha Paytas]

And Rainn Wilson. I feel like it was depressing. I feel like there was nothing. I wish he was a little more funny. I thought he was gonna be a little more Dwight.

[Moses]

Well, I think he was trying to be funny. Like, you want to break down right now. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, it sounds like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses]

Jokes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah, maybe. Anyways, I should add that to my press list. Kayla Malik Bangin and Jay Shetty.

[Oscar Gracie]

Flop cast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Flopcast, too. J. Shetty.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who else did you say? You said another one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Banging out.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, but there was, like, another, like, really random one that, like, made no sense for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have a list.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, the Smart list.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. That'd be a good one for me to go on. And Amy Poehler. I want to go on that one. Smart list. I think I'd be good on Smart List. And then. And the Tig1tig. What's her name? The lesbian comedian that I always.

[Moses]

Oh, that's her name. That's her name.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to go on that one, too, where she tries to guess who I am. I want to be on that one, too. Anyways, I have a whole list for my book tour. We'll see who'll have me.

[Oscar Gracie]

Is it the. The Handsome podcast or Take pov?

[Trisha Paytas]

Whatever one she guesses, people. I love her, though. I love her. Maybe the sip. Maybe they'll have me.

[Moses]

I'm sure they will. When you have the book, which one's the sip?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, so sorry. I'm so sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're deep into the. The SIP lore.

[Oscar Gracie]

You're a part of the Simplore.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember. I meant to share this on my last anecdote when we were talking about how I found out about the global pandemic at Benihana in the last episode. Two days before that, I did hear of the global pandemic, like, the only time I heard of it, because someone was like, you never heard, like, coronavirus was coming to the US And I did two days prior to that, which actually, two days prior, we went on the date two days prior to that. So four days prior. So four days prior to the Benihana global pandemic sign, two days prior to when I met Moses, Rylan and Morgan Adams were at my house by themselves, and they were doing, like, a video, and we were doing Tiktoks. I'm in, like, yellow von Dutch sweatpants and we're doing Tiktoks. I think Morgan was, like, borrowing clothes for some video. She was doing, like, dressing like you. Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Oh, my God. You are like, seriously, Your brain is like Legally Blonde. When she just remembers, like, legal drop jargon should be like, you know, and you're just like, why?

[Moses]

Like, wasn't he borrowing your wigs?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she was borrowing my clothes. She was borrowing my clothes for, like, a dressing. Like Trish. Yes. And it was like a pinking. Wow, you're very good at that. And. And, like, Ryland was there, too. And I remember Shane calling Rylan, like, panicked. He's like, you have to get home right now. It was, like, 5:00' clock at night, and it was, like, kind of dark. It was kind of, like, moody. He's like, you have to get home right now. And, yeah, he wasn't on speaker. Rylan just relayed this to me. He's like, shane. It was Shane, and he's really worried. He said, we're. We should get home now because the coronavirus is here. Or something like that. And I remember being like, okay, Shane with the conspiracies. You know what I mean? You know, I was like, sure, whatever. They ran home. But it was. I remember being a little spooky. I remember being like, oh, my God, they left. And I was all by myself. And I just remember being like, oh, he wants them to get home, but I'm here by myself. What if the coronavirus gets me in the house? Like, I remember being so scared. And then, yeah, I was terrified. And then I met Moses on DMs. And then, like, two days later, I was like, well, let's go out to eat. And then, like, literally two days after that, the Benihana shut down. I remember like, oh, my gosh. And then when I called Moses and you said the same word, which is coronavirus. I don't know if you can say. I have to bleep a jimmy. I can't. I don't know. Can you say it?

[Moses]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember you said it, and I was just like, oh, my God, this is like a real thing. So I did hear about it a few days prior from Ryland and Shane. And Shane was very, very worried about it, as he should be, I guess. I guess he kind of knew. He kind of was up to date with it.

[Oscar Gracie]

You learning about coronavirus from Shane Dawson and Benny Hora. That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was the Lord. I had to, like, rethink that. I was like, let me. Let me put that little antidote in here, because the.

[Oscar Gracie]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Antidote. Wait, what is it? Antidote.

[Moses]

Antidote? Yeah. I mean, if you talk about the virus, it makes sense. What is that? Anecdote.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anecdote. What's the difference between anecdote and antidote?

[Moses]

It's, like, to fight.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those words actually sound similar. You guys. Okay, verbal. Real. Ben Kingsley, Patrick Stewart. Antidote and antidote. Mandarin, and I don't even know the other one, but those all sound so similar. Can I tell you? I always sucked at those. Like, spot the difference. I always did. What's the antidote? What's the antidote?

[Moses]

Like a story you tell about a situation, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, wait, anecdote.

[Trisha Paytas]

Antidote.

[Oscar Gracie]

Antidote is like a cure for disease or poison or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Antidote. And what's anecdote?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like a story or an aside.

[Trisha Paytas]

And why Anic. That doesn't make sense. Anecdote. You knew. Anecdote. All right, so I. I put in an anecdote, but that's not what I meant to say. A little note. I Guess I'm putting in a note about what I said.

[Oscar Gracie]

You used it. The word you wanted to use, you used correctly, but you used the wrong word.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. So anecdote.

[Oscar Gracie]

Anecdote.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's my anecdote from last time. My pin comment, if you will. My gays love aquarium is my pin comment. That's where it is. My anecdotes. You should make more. Chess has that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. D. For context, I got my pin comment on my YouTube video. Right now is not to be ignorant, but all my gays. All the gays I know love aquariums. What's up with that? And I was like, that is honestly a good point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that why should she write a song with it with her dolphins flying around? Because that gives gay aquarium her vibe, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yeah. Her midnight sun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gays like her. No.

[Oscar Gracie]

Zara Larson. Yeah, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Oscar Gracie]

Are you kidding?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't know that was like. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was just like, Addison Rae.

[Moses]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know the luts.

[Oscar Gracie]

The luts are. There's plenty of gays in there. Yeah. She's a pop girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to go to her show. We missed her show, huh?

[Oscar Gracie]

She's back. She's coming back to the Greek.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. It's kind of intimate for her. She's so big right now.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would love to go see her. Maybe we'll go see. I do love. That's what I loved about the Leon show. All gays. Like all gays. That was great. Just a sea of gay men. I loved it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. You would never expect. I guess I just. You just don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

But you do know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know, like, Lily is, like,

[Oscar Gracie]

the number one Zar lson. Stan. And he's gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know he was a star.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's how he got his claim to fame was by standing Zara Larson before anyone else. Well, he got in a fight with someone with a Selena Gomez stand. The Selena Gomez standing. You stand Zara Larson. Harry. And he goes, well, you stand Selena Gomez.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, but Harry also. Stan. Selena Gomez. He was like, telling, like, nope, she never wanted me. And you're like, yes, she did. He's like, nope. I was like, oh, my gosh. Okay. I did love it, though. That was fun. That was fun to witness. I felt like I was just, like, in a. In a world of that I don't know about nothing about we love, we stand. I was say one more thing about the Hen pan interview. There was one more thing. Oh, her postpartum. I was Talking to talk about that. Like, I love that too. That's why I love that Again. Once again, talking to a man about it, I was like, I love that. Jenny. She talked about. Sorry, it's just flipping back to this other thing after we just talked about gay dolphins. But she was talking about how. Because I thought this too, right. Like, Cassandra's been making the rounds. And the thing you, like, when you think of her, obviously, like, she. She signed over her rights to her daughter, which she thought was, like, temporary, to her husband Vlad, who's from Russia. Russia. And I guess he, like, took her daughter back to Russia without her, like, knowing. She didn't know. She thought it was just a temporary thing. But, like, did she give an update on, like, the daughter? Well, she said she was going through really bad postpartum, and when she went to a therapist to talk about her postpartum depression, they diagnosed her with alcoholism, which she's like, I did. You know, I was. I was drinking. She goes, but, like, no one said it was postpartum depression. They weren't, like, tying it. It to, like, just having a baby. They were tying it to her being an alcoholic. And they treated her for that and not the postpartum.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So she said that her daughter still lives overseas with her ex because by the time that she got, like, healthy and got treated for postpartum and alcoholism, like, she thought it would be unfair to like, pull her out of the life that she already built because she has, like, friends and family and stuff. She has her whole life, like, in Europe, and she speaks five languages and she rides horses. Horses. So she thought it would be selfish for her to just, like, pull her out of the. Out of Europe. But she does go and see her still. And still is, like, still co parents. And she says she has an amazing relationship with her. She says, I go to travel as much as I can. I spend a lot of time with her on FaceTime, and we talk about really deep things. We have a really intense, incredible bond. And I'm very grateful for her. That's sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, that's like a good mom is, like, knowing that she has life over there. And, like, you know, that's life she knows, even if that's not life she wanted for herself. That's good. Honestly, even, like, signing over rights, it must be, like, the hardest thing to do. So, like, the fact that she did that for her, too, is a really big deal, especially if you are going through the haze of, like, postpartum and alcoholism and all that stuff, it's like a lot that's really sad, but good morning. Good mom to like know what's best for the kid. And it's good that she has a good relationship, I guess, with her ex husband.

[Oscar Gracie]

They didn't even get married, actually. They were just engaged. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the age difference? He is now 50 and she's 36, so 14 years. And how old is the daughter?

[Oscar Gracie]

She's 11, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. So she had her at 25?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she's 11.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. So she had her At 25 and he was. Was like into his. In his 40s.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's all very tough. It's a lot.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, and kind of related, I suppose. Another mom talk news.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

God, why am I forgetting her name already?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. Macy.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, it's from one of the moms. Real Housewives of Orange County. Avery Woods. That sounds right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right, yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

God, she really has some. Some shooters out there. Because on TikTok they are really trying to get her off the damn show already, even though it hasn't even come out yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they're filming, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, they're filming now. But she did kind of do something diabolical. So she posted an a TikTok/Instagram reel about filming real. Oh my God. Real Housewives. Mormon Wives, Seagull Lives, Mormon Wives, Orange County.

[Trisha Paytas]

Too much to say.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Way too much. Too much.

[Oscar Gracie]

And there was a girl that commented, like, kind of left like a mean comment about like how the bill. She has to pay the bills. So that's why now she's doing the show. And Avery reposted that comment to her Instagram story to kind of get people to go, like, send hate her way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then that girl replied, that didn't really work out in your favor because you just gave me 20 followers. And then Avery replied by saying, I just reached out to the university that you put in your bio and she screenshotted, like the email that she sent her university. She said, I just want you to know that a nasty bully goes to your school. I don't think this is the kind of reputation you want for your university. And I was like, girl, I think it's a little too much.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was the initial comment?

[Oscar Gracie]

It was just like, I know you have to you that mortgage payment is coming through. So that's why you're doing this.

[Trisha Paytas]

So nothing? Oh my gosh, Super. Like, that mortgage payment's always coming through. I always give me me a brand deal. That mortgage payment we have to pay. What do you mean? That's, like, the comment everyone gets.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. It wasn't even anything that was, like, you know, racist or anything, like, vile. Like, that's like. Because I do think there are some people who are just, like, so nasty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

And, like, racist or misogynistic, where they go so below the belt that. Yeah. Like, call them out, you know, like, let their employee know how nasty they are online. But this was just kind of like, no shade, but a run of the mill kind of.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, you reach out to the university. It's also probably just like. Like, it's a kid in college. You know what I mean? I don't know if I'm gonna be too pressed by it. It's like, what? You're so weird for that.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was weird. And everyone was really upset by her doing that because, like, why are you doxing this girl and, like, going to her college? I'm like, again, kind of, like, time and place. There is something where that would be deserved again if someone was being just, like, committing crimes or being so hateful and calling you slurs and this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but. But even that. I don't know if I've ever, like, gone to a bio and, like, looked at their place of appointment. Be like, let me call. Because it's like, like, I know what you want to do. I know it's like you want to, like, ruin their life in some capacity. But it's also like, is it worth it, Karma? Is it worth it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Universally, it's kind of like when, like, God, I think. Who was the drag? There was, like, a drag. A girl from RuPaul's Drag Race, I think I want to say it was Jasmine Kennedy, where, like, she was just sitting on a subway in New York and someone came and was just, like, attacked. She's trans. So someone came and was just, like, being so transphobic, like, threatening her, and she filmed it. And then people, like, went to his employer and got him fired. So there are moments like that where, like, hate crimes or something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure. Someone's like. And I like, yeah, attack you in public or something. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

But so I think when it comes to, like, hate crime or, like, hate

[Trisha Paytas]

speech, that's something different versus, like, a

[Oscar Gracie]

run of the mill, like, hate comment, which, like, no shade. That'd be like, me going, like, someone's like, okay, what? Me beefing with, like, GR Chicken fry. Like, oh, I know. I scar to pay that mortgage, like, and then go in and doxing them. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right. Did they say. Did they say that? About you.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I'm just. When I do beef with her, you'll

[Trisha Paytas]

do something about you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who?

[Trisha Paytas]

Brian Chicken fry. She did say something about you one day.

[Oscar Gracie]

Recently?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, when we had. When you had the thing. What was it?

[Oscar Gracie]

Gay boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I swear there was something she said because it was like, a little, like, crossing. It was a little. We were a little.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I wanted to ask the twinks D. That one. Maybe he has a crush on you. That thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Which one? Those are two very different things. That's the D or the.

[Oscar Gracie]

Has a crush. But you know, she wanted to say.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, okay, yeah. Same kind of thing. But yeah, it would be the equivalent. There was something about. Wait, let me see. There was something about every wood. I gotta find it. Because someone was bringing up something that she did that was a little diabolical.

[Oscar Gracie]

There was the necklace. I did see that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one? Oh, yeah, yeah. That one.

[Oscar Gracie]

She wore a necklace of her. What was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's Emily Kaiser's son?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. She wore the necklace with his name on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, when it was still fresh. And Emily hadn't even talked about it or anything like that.

[Oscar Gracie]

She and her son had passed away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her son and I passed away.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they were really, really close friends. And Avery kept making content, which, you know, was. It's fine. I suppose. But then she was, like, wearing the necklace, and everyone's like, okay, that's like. Emily hasn't talked about it. Yeah. They're like. And then they stopped being friends.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I know Emily is like, this is the month that he passed. I know she's, like, taking time off social media because it was, like, affecting her, but I. Yeah, it was. It was a little weird. There was something else I saw run

[Oscar Gracie]

down because then I saw TikTok, like, running down. It was the Harry Potter. Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see this one. Okay. Wait, is this her? This is not Avery woods, is it?

[Oscar Gracie]

I honestly don't even know what the girl looks like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, this Tik Tok was crazy. And if this is Avery woods, this is crazy. Okay, I gotta make sure this. Okay, boy moms, feel me on this. But my son has my heart, My heart and my soul. I obviously am obsessed with Stevie Lee. She is just the greatest little girl in the world. But my whole life, I always wanted to be a boy mom. And I remember when I found out I was pregnant with him and I was just ecstatic because I was such a tomboy growing up. Anyways, the whole point of me making this video is I had to share his preschool photo with you. Because when I tell you I opened up this email and I just hysterically cried. He is just everything. First of all, let me show you his photo from last year. Because the difference. One year. I remember this. That is so weird. Like, no, don't get me wrong. Like, love my daughters. Love Malibu and Elvis. But Aquaman, I mean, he has that. I remember when that happened. Like, that is the craziest thing to say because already there's a weird stigma of boy moms being too obsessed with their sons and stuff like that. But it's such a weird thing to say when you have a daughter. Like, you're so weird. I forgot. God, was that. Okay, wait, let's look at the other one down. Just real quick. I know we're like, whatever, but I saw the.

[Oscar Gracie]

There was two things from the Harry Jowsy episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, what's that one?

[Oscar Gracie]

Because I don't remember one comment. She said that if we hooked up, like, my. She said her. I'm gonna paraphrase, but that her vagina is still pristine because she got a C section.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what we were trying to think of last time. Because you said something about C section.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Which kind of a weird thing. And also, like, I don't know, uncomfortable.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, also, like, weird thing to say.

[Oscar Gracie]

Sexual harassment.

[Moses]

A little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know when people are like that too. With like, well, I have a C section. So my vagina is like, well, I have a C section too. But you got a big ass scar across it. Like, I don't know. It makes. The only reason I say that is because they make it seem like, oh, I'm still intact. And if you had a vaginal birth, like, it's stretchy and used out and stuff, which is like, not how it works anyways. But that's what it implies. I've seen other people say that too. It's like, oh, I have a C section. So, like, I'm not all stretched and used out from a baby. It's like, well, no, it goes back. Like, it doesn't. Just, it's. I haven't had a vaginal birth, but from what I've heard is like, it goes back and then it's like, meanwhile, it's like, you're not better than someone because you think you have a tighter vagina. It's like, you still have a big ass scar. I don't know. That's always weird to me when people try to use that as, like, a flex above something else or. Or just a flex in general. It's like, okay. And why. That's all of it. A lot. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

And in the same podcast, she also said that everyone. All the haters who leave her hate comments but on their bios have scripture passages, that Jesus is gonna F them over, bend them over and F them. Wait, she said any of her haters who have.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a Bible verse.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Or scripture passage in their bio, Jesus is gonna bend them over and F them. That is a crazy subject of humor

[Trisha Paytas]

that we are, like, so missing. I'm not trying to judge too harshly, but I'm. I'm. I'm very interested now. Like, I don't know the Avery woods pipeline, but everything you hear, right? And like, is it the worst? Is it like, James Charles? Maybe not. But, like, why are you saying so much weird? I guess you have a podcast. I guess when you have a podcast, you say a lot of weird shit,

[Oscar Gracie]

but that's just a random TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Right. Like, why. Why did I want to know? Maybe you should come on the podcast. I need to know why you got in your car to just be like, guys, my daughter's great, but look at my son.

[Oscar Gracie]

Boy moms. Are you with me on this? Yeah, we don't really like our daughters that much. Like what?

[Trisha Paytas]

The boys have everything. There are heart and soul. I was a tomboy. They're every. That to me is like, boy moms are weird. Boy moms are so weird. They are weird for that. There's the ones like, I was always first kiss. I will always be his first love. It's like, you were so creepy and we're. That's crazy. I remember that video so much, and that's crazy. It was her. Let's see if there's one more. I'm just actually, like, really curious. And the no hate, because again, she's not James Charles. Girls, let me see. Okay, let me just type in.

[Oscar Gracie]

People really have it out for her because, like, I watched one Tick tock breaking down why they don't like her. And now I get so many and I like, I've just learned this girl's name like a week ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what's the ever Catherine. Okay, the DMs university is actually. We were talking about.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Avery woods doxed one of the commenters on this Instagram. Oh, she showed the university trying to get her kicked out of school.

[Oscar Gracie]

School.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's talk about posted the receipt screenshots. Okay. Because I'm sure they don't want a bully attending their school. Girl, you are so weird. And I guess also not to be that. Sorry. Not to be that person. But it's like. Like, you. You do just. You are a mom. You have kids. Like, there's other things you could be, like, focusing on. Like the fact that you're trying to, like, this kid who's, like, in college. You're, like, trying to get them, like, kicked out for something that was. Was, like, harmless. Like, it wasn't like they were, like, attacking you or, like, saying something like, hateful or attacking your children or anything like that. Like, it's a comment. Everybody gets. I get it all the time. Like, mortgage is due, doing another tour. So it's like, yeah, of course. Like, what? Everyone gets those comments. Who cares? Like, so weird. And you're like, a mom. Like, would you want someone doing that to your child when they're in college who, like, they just say stupid. Make stupid things. I don't know. Like, focus on that in this show. I don't know if you're gonna be a public figure.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's not like. Like, the. It's not like reality shows don't exist. Like, and you don't know. You haven't seen what other reality stars, like, you kind of sign up for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Mormon wives are just, like, dragged through the mud every single day. And it's, like, fine, because they're also, like, flourishing and getting brand deals. So they're probably, like, okay with it. But it's also, like, you have to, like, go with.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's, like, for people to have opinions on you, so you can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, the only reason there's a reality show is just to have people judge you. Like, there's. They're gonna show you in order. Yes. The. The bad lighting. All stuff. Did you see the Bobby? Of course. I think it was with ET Where Bobby Altoff was like, like, why are you doing the show? She's like, the PR answer is to make friends. She goes, the real answer is, so I get more exposure and brand deals and make more money. I was like, real. Which is why everyone does it. Really?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't imagine her in this group. I don't know anything about Bobby Altoff. Like, personally, I just can't imagine her because her. She has such that character. I'm just being like, yeah, I don't know. You know, Like, I can't imagine her beyond a reality show. She's gonna be, like, a normal person.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think she will. I think she realizes that audience she has from the podcast is just so male centric. Yeah. And, like, doesn't value her. That this is, like, a good opportunity.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hope so.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know about the Xavier woods, but don't send her hate. But also, like, girl, we need some media training before we go into the full season. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Hulu, we need to. Actually, Hula's probably, like, loving it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. Hulu is, like the new. What's really messy. Maybe like E. Oh, maybe more E. TLC is crazy. TLC is, like, wild. Maybe like E back in the day with, like, the pretty basic. No, what was the name? What's that show called?

[Oscar Gracie]

Basic. A Pretty Wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pretty wild. Oh, that's crazy. They should do a crossover. The Pretty Wild Early Kardashians, Girls Next Door, Anna Nicole. I think Hulu is becoming the new that. Which is. I'm here for.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love a little mess. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna shut it down. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

The favorite was so funny. I just. Like I said, there's no hate to her. I just think it's. I'm so interested when there is. I guess, like you said, there's. What do you call them? They're shooters out there.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not literal shooters, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, it's just, like, people who have. Have it out for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let me not use that word. Let me. Like. Yeah, people were.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is kind of the same from Black. Call of Duty. What is it?

[Moses]

Call of Duty.

[Oscar Gracie]

Black Ops.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that the one we play?

[Oscar Gracie]

No, we play Fortnite.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar Gracie]

Anyways, David Dobrik was playing Black Ops or one of the Ops.

[Trisha Paytas]

Haven't heard that name in a while.

[Oscar Gracie]

What do you mean? It was a week ago. We watched him play it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did we? Yeah, we watched it. Play it. Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

In the vlog. In his vlog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, in Brazil.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, that was a while ago.

[Oscar Gracie]

Two weeks, I guess, but a long time. Well, that's. Oh, speaking kind of similar, though. I forgot to mention this too. Is it kind of ties into that Nick from Love island who is half of Nickelandria. Oh, yeah, Boyfriend. His, like, Vulture interview where they kind of set him up. They invited him to be a part of this reality cover, and it was all about, you know, the breakout reality stars and just kind of said that, like, he was really smart and paired up with Alandria on the show because he could sense that she was the fan favorite. So it's. It is in his article, Vulture wrote that. So he was invited to be a part of this cover, and it's with the, like, Tiffany Pollard and Taylor Hill, like, these reality, like, legends.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then his article Was like, really shady. And he's like, why would you guys fly me out to New York, put me on the COVID be nice to me there, and then write this article. But they did kind of like, they kind of spilled.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they. But he didn't say that. They were saying that. That's why they thought that was their opinion.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, that was like their perspective, I guess. Is that like he kind of like an average, like, you know, he's not like super funny or like that hot, but like, he was smart to pair himself to, like, the fan favorite star, Landria. And he says they're still together, but

[Trisha Paytas]

people are speculating that they're not.

[Oscar Gracie]

I, I just. The perspective of like, from the, From Vulture was that, like, you know, he saw that she was popular and paired himself up there. But he says they're still together, which is interesting. But then in the art, in the interview, he got asked, like, you know, what is. He got asked by Vulture, what do you look for, like, when you're choosing, like, brand deals? Like, is it like what you align with or whatever? And he's like, he said, I look for the least deliverables and the most money. So like the most money for the least amount of work. So it's like it kind of goes in with like, now reality stories are really in it for the, for the brand deals for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

That. Why would he say that? Just so again, lazy. Have these people, like, never worked, like a job in their life? Like what? I don't know, their relationship. They do look cute together. I don't know if it'll last because Landria is just like, so massive and so big. I don't think he really is gonna go up with her because I think he also wants to be a star. Obviously he's still trying to be on the COVID and I think it just doesn't work because I think someone will always have a little resentment, even if it's not his choice. Right. It's like the article is like they put him there and they're just talking about how he just attached himself to, like, the star.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Andrea, it'll be interesting to see with,

[Oscar Gracie]

like, the new season of Love island because that literally starts in like a couple weeks, which is nuts to have, like, a new wave of these cast

[Trisha Paytas]

members and it's live and arcs to host it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes, they were. They have a new host of after sun and it's now going to be Sierra from Traders in Summer House. Yeah, she's the new.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's great.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, it happened for Ariana Too. You got cheated on as a big Bravo scandal, and look what happens. The door's open, you know? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did see them. They were, like, in a commercial together.

[Oscar Gracie]

Sierra.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And Ariana.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. That makes sense because they're very similar scandals.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Although she was with Tom for, like, 10 years or something, Right?

[Oscar Gracie]

True. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were just like four months together or something. Sierra.

[Oscar Gracie]

I guess so. With west. It's all because it's worth it for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

My expertise.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she interviewed me, right. At Euphoria with Sierra.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You saw it. Okay. Yeah. She was sweet. She was so beautiful. I was like, when can I come to summer house? She was gorge. I was happy she wanted to interview me. We love it. She is gorgeous. She should be an actress. I feel like she should be because she's, like, so dramatic and stuff. And, like, with the crying and the bushes. Was that what she was doing outside? Was it D Rock? Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Fred Siegel. I think it was like, the. Or something. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like that. I like the drama. I like someone who could bring it. Well, you guys, what a great episode this was. We love you guys. I know. Well, next week we'll get to recap more things.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah. Will be out, etc. So, etc.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hopefully something happens.

[Oscar Gracie]

Something else happens.

[Moses]

James.

[Oscar Gracie]

Charlotte makes a comeback.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, please. We need a silence. A moment of silence. I don't need any more. I did see Kayla Malik clap back at James Charles. Did you see that one?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like kind of what Moses said. Here's how you get money from James.

[Oscar Gracie]

Be a teen boy or be an abuser. Who needs. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She does not hold back.

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

To be like, young, early 20s, and just to be so carefree, unfiltered. Be like, I'm gonna say what I want. I love it. I think more people should do. I encourage it. Especially when you're someone like her, where you've been, like, slighted by this person. It's like, you know what? Say your peace girl.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. You've been there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been there. That's why I support it so much. Cause some of my early 20s, I don't regret so much. Like before, I got, like, real nasty and, like, unhinged. Like, I got a little mentally unwell before I was, like, severely mentally unwell. I feel like I had reason. These guys were. But it's like, then something.

[Oscar Gracie]

You lost the plot a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I lost the plot a lot.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Anyone was getting a video.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was seven. Yes, I was. Was. I hated everyone. I was like. And because. Because People were awful. So speak your peace, hold your ground, get help. Talk to a therapist in between all that. You know what I mean? Or no cd. No C. Does sound great, actually. That does sound wonderful. I love.

[Oscar Gracie]

Jimmy was telling me how he loves, like, editing when you speak with. Because you'd be like. You'll be reading it, and you'll be like, oh, I have. That you, like, are realizing as you're doing the ad read that you have. I did the one you have a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was like. Because you know what? Not to be back in the ad read, but, like, I was OCD was like, just, like, washing your hands and organizing and Howie Mandel not touching people. Like, I thought that's what OCD was. And I was like, I think so.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think I have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, that's gonna really benefit me. And you don't know. Sometimes you think, like, it's not fixable, but it is. No CD can help you with those. Not let those intrusive thoughts have. Hold on you. Which is. Which is great. Or. I think we talked about this, too. So sometimes, like, at a red light, you're like, if I. Or at a green light, we're like, oh, I can make this light. And if I make this light, then I'm gonna, you know, get a promotion or something like that. Like, you talked about that, too.

[Oscar Gracie]

For me, similar. Like me, it's like, if I don't check to make sure that if I don't check, like, two or three times that the door is locked, even if I'm walking away, like, something's gonna happen, like, the house will burn down or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Or if, like, I can't. If I'm editing and I move something around and it's at, like, an off number that doesn't look right to my head, and I can't even. And I'll try to, like, get over it, but I'm like, I can't. I can't finish this video. I have to go back and fix it. Numbers are usually my thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But OCD looks different for everybody, so let us know. Go to. Oh, nocd if you think you're struggling with any of the. Any of the stuff we mentioned. All right, that's it, guys. I don't think NOCD was the sponsor, actually. I think that was my non. Loveline sponsor. But they did sponsor this show one time next week. There is a no cd. Maybe we put this. Anyways, keep it in, Jimmy. No CDs. Probably sponsoring next week. We love no CD. And that's it. If you made it this far. You know, it's an afternoon at the end for you. Thanks for being here. Moses final thoughts. I guess you don't need to. I guess that's okay.

[Moses]

Sorry, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar, final thoughts. Okay, we're done.

[Moses]

But they're like, I was so close.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, we're done. That will wrap it up. If you want to hear Moses final thoughts, go to Patreon. We love you guys. Thanks for being here, and we'll see you next time. Yeah.